diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2720.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2720.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4778d3ca --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2720.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,332 @@ +SUBJECT: A CHANGED VIEW OF SCIENCE FILE: UFO2720 + + + + + + Mon 24 Feb 92 8:15 + By: Robin Gober + To: ALL + Re: Intergration + ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + When we last left Doc. Rogers he was faced with how to resolve the + conflict of viewing a subjective experience as an experientialist or + scientist. I see a lot of things in this debate that can be useful to a + Contactee. As a Contactee I know, as William James stated that these + experiences can be very real and very authoritative. I also that as a + thinking Contactee, sometimes, I like to be able to view the the + experience objectively as well. I think Rogers gives some very good + guide lines on how to go about this. + + "A Changed View of Science + + [...] Gradually I have come to believe that the most basic error in the + original formulation was in the description of science. I should like, + in this section, to attempt to correct that error, and in the following + section to reconcile the revised points of view. + + The major shortcoming was, I believe, in viewing science as something + `out there,' something spelled with a capital S, a `body of knowledge' + existing somewhere in space and time. in common with psychologists I + thought of science as a systematized and organized collection of + tentatively verified facts, and saw the methodology of science as the + socially approved means of accumulating this body of knowledge, and + continuing its verification. It has seemed somewhat like a reservoir + into which all and sundry may dip their buckets to obtain water--with a + guarantee of 99% purity. When viewed in this external and impersonal + fashion, it seems not unreasonable to see Science not only as + discovering knowledge in lofty fashion, but as involving + depersonalization, a tendency to manipulate, a denial of the basic + freedom of choice which I have met experientially in therapy. I should + like now to view the scientific approach from a different, and I hope, + a more accurate perspective. + + Science in Persons + + Science exists only in people. Each scientific project has its creative + inception, its process, and its tentative conclusion, in a person or + persons. Knowledge--even scientific knowledge can be communicated only + to those who are subjectively ready to receive its communication. The + utilization of science also occurs only through people who are in + pursuit of values which have meaning to them. These statements + summarize very briefly something of the change in emphasis which I + would like to make in my description of science. Let me follow through + the various phases of science from this point of view." + + _On Becoming a Person_ Carl R. Rogers Ph.D. 1961 + + "The Creative Phase + + Science has its inception in a particular person who is pursuing aims, + values, purposes, which have personal and subjective meaning for him. + As a part of this pursuit, he, in some area,`wants to find out.' + Consequently, if he is to be a good scientist, he immerses himself in + the relevant experience, whether that be the physics laboratory, the + world of the plant or animal life, the hospital, the psychological + laboratory or clinic, or whatever. This immersion is complete and + subjective, similar to the immersion of the therapist in therapy,[or + the Contactee in the encounter]. He senses the field in which he is + interested, he lives it. He does more than `think' about it--he lets + his organism take over and react to it, both on a knowing and on an + unknowing level. He comes to sense more than he could possibly + verbalize about his field, and reacts organismically in terms of + relationships which are not present in his awareness. Out of his + complete subjective immersion comes a creative forming, a sense of + direction, a vague formulation of relationships hitherto unrecognized. + Whittled down, sharpened, formulated in clearer terms, this creative + forming becomes a hypothesis-- a statement of a tentative, personal, + subjective faith. The scientist is saying, `I have a hunch that such + and such a relationship exits, and the existence of this phenomenon has + relevance to my personal values.' What I am describing is the initial + phase of science, probably its most important phase, but one which + American scientists, particularly psychologists, have been prone to + minimize or ignore. It is not so much that it has been denied as that + it has been quickly brushed off. Kenneth Spence has said that this + aspect of science is `simply taken for granted.' Like many experiences + taken for granted, it also tends to be forgotten. It is indeed in the + matrix of immediate personal, subjective experience that all science, + and each individual scientific research, has its origin." + + _On Becoming a Person_ Carl R. Rogers Ph.D. + + "Reality, our good buddie!" --Robin Gober + + "Checking With Reality + + The scientist has then creatively achieved his hypothesis, his + tentative faith. But does it check with reality? Experience has shown + each one of us that it is very easy to deceive ourselves, to believe + something which later experience shows is not so. How can I tell + whether this tentative belief has some real relationship to observed + facts? I can use, not one line of evidence only, but several. I can + surround my observation of the facts with various precautions to make + sure I am not deceiving myself. I can consult with others who have also + been concerned with avoiding self-deception, an learn useful ways of + catching myself in unwarranted beliefs, based on misinterpretation of + observations. I can, in short, begin to use all the elaborate + methodology which science has accumulated. I discover that stating my + hypothesis in operational terms will avoid many blind alleys and false + conclusions. I learn that control groups can help me to avoid drawing + false inferences. [The same way I use information from other recovery + groups on topics like trauma, P.T.S.D.,Codependants, and Religious + Addiction] I learn that correlations and t tests and critical ratios + and a whole array of statistical procedures can likewise aid me in + drawing only reasonable inferences. Thus scientific methodology is seen + for what it truly is -- a way of preventing me from deceiving myself in + regard to my creatively formed subjective hunches which have developed + out of the relationship between me and my material. It is in this + context, and perhaps only in this context, that the vast structure of + operationism, logical positivism, research design, test of + significance, ect. have their place. They exist, not for themselves, + but as servants in the attempt to check the subjective feeling or hunch + or hypothesis of a person with the objective fact. And even throughout + the use of such rigorous and impersonal methods, the important choices + are all made subjectively by the scientist. To which of a number of + hypotheses shall I devote time? What kind of control group is most + suitable for avoiding self-deception in this in this particular + research? How far shall I carry the statistical analysis? How much + credence may I place in the findings? Each of these is necessarily a + subjective personal judgment, emphasizing that the splendid structure + of science rest basically upon its subjective use by persons. It is the + best instrument we have yet been able to devise to check upon our + organismic sensing of the universe. + + _On Becoming a Person_ Carl R. Rogers Ph.D. + + "The Findings + + If, as scientist, I like the way I have gone about my investigation, if + I have been open to all the evidence if I have selected and used + intelligently all the precautions against self-deception which I have + been able to assimilate from others or to devise myself, then I will + give my tentative belief to the findings which have emerged. I will + regard them as a springboard for further investigation and further + seeking. It seems to me that in the best of science, the primary + purpose is to provide a more satisfactory and dependable hypothesis, + belief, faith, for the investigator himself. In regard to the findings + of science, the subjective foundation is well shown in the fact that at + times the scientist may refuse to believe his own findings. `The + experiment showed thus and so, but I believe it to be wrong,' is a + theme which every scientist has experienced at some time or other. Some + very fruitful discoveries have grown out of the persistent disbelief, + by a scientist, in his won findings and those of others. In the last + analysis he may place more trust in his total organismic reactions than + in the methods of science. There is no doubt that this can result in + serious error as well as in scientific discoveries, but it indicates + again the leading place of the subjective in the use of science. + + Communication of Scientific Findings + + Wading along a coral reef in the Caribbean this morning, I saw a large + blue fish -- I think. If you, quite independently, saw it too, then I + feel more confident in my own observation. This is what is know as + intersubjective verification, and it plays an important part in our + understanding of science. If I take you (whether in conversation or in + print or behaviorally) through the steps I have taken in an + investigation, and it seems to you too that I have not deceived myself, + and I have indeed come across a new relationship which is relevant to + my values, and that I am justified in having a tentative faith in this + relationship, then we have the beginnings of Science with a capital S. + It is at this point that we are likely to think we have created a body + of scientific knowledge. Actually there is no such body of knowledge. + There are only tentative beliefs, existing subjectively, in a number of + different persons. If these beliefs are not tentative, then what exists + is dogma, not science. If on the other hand, no one but the + investigator believes the finding then this finding is either a + personal and deviant matter, an instance of psycho-pathology, or else + it is an unusual truth discovered by a genius, which as yet no one is + subjectively ready to believe. This leads me to comment on the group + which can put tentative faith in any given scientific finding." + + _On Becoming a Person_ Carl R. Rogers Ph.D. + + "Communication to Whom? + + It is clear that scientific findings can be communicated only to those + who have agreed to the same ground rules of investigation. The + Australian bushman will be quite unimpressed with the finding of + science regarding bacterial infection. He knows that illness truly is + caused by evil spirits. It is only when he too agrees to scientific + method as a good means of preventing self-deception, that he will be + likely to accept its findings. But even among those who have adopted + the ground rules of science, tentative belief in the findings of a + scientific research can only occur where there is a subjective + readiness to believe. One could find many examples. Most psychologists + are quite ready to believe evidence showing that the lecture system + produces significant increments of learning, and quite unready to + believe that the turn of an unseen card may be called through an + ability labelled extra-sensory perception. Yet the scientific evidence + for the latter is considerably more impeccable than for the former. + Likewise when the so-called `Iowa studies' first came out, indicating + that intelligence might be considerably altered by environmental + conditions, there was great disbelief among psychologists, and many + attacks on the imperfect scientific methods used. The scientific + evidence for this finding is not much better today than it was when the + Iowa studies first appeared, but the subjective readiness of + psychologists to believe such a finding has altered greatly.[Much like + the subject of Contact/Abduction] A historian of science has noted that + empiricists, had they existed at the time, would have been the first to + desbelieve the findings of Copernicus. It appears then that whether I + believe the scientific findings of others or those from my own studies, + depends in part on my readiness to put a tentative belief in such + findings. One reason we are not particularly aware of this subjective + fact is that in the physical sciences particularly, we have gradually + adopted a very large area of experience in which we are ready to + believe and finding which can be shown to rest upon the rules of the + scientific game, properly played. + + The Use of Science + + But not only is the origin, process, and conclusion of science + something which exists only in the subjective experience of persons -- + so also is its utilization. `Science' will never depersonalize, or + manipulate, or control individuals. It is only persons who can and will + do that.[as in cults] That is surely a most obvious and trite + observation, yet a deep realization of it has had much meaning for me. + It means that the use which will be made of scientific findings in the + field of personality is and will be a matter of subjective personal + choice. -- the same type of choice as a person makes in therapy. To the + extent that he has defensively closed off areas of his awareness, the + person is more likely to make choices which are socially destructive. + [As in a Contactee closing off feelings of anger, pain or fear]. To the + extent that he is open to all phases of his experience we may be sure + that this person will be more likely to use the findings and methods of + science (or any other tool or capacity) in a manner which is personally + and socially constructive. There is, in actuality then, no threatening + entity of `Science' which can in any way affect our destiny. There are + only people. While many of them are indeed threatening and dangerours + in their defensiveness, and modern scientific knowledge multiplies the + social threat and danger, this is not the whole picture. There are two + other significant facets. (1) There are many person who are relatively + open to their experience and hence likely to be socially constructive. + (2) Both the subjective experience of psychotherapy and the scientific + findings regarding it indicate that individuals are motivated to + change, and may be helped to change, in the direction of greater + openness to experience, and hence in the direction of behavior which is + enhancing of self and society, rather than destructive. To put it + briefly, Science can never threaten us. Only persons can do that. And + while individuals can be vastly destructive with the tools placed in + their hands by scientific knowledge, this is only one side of the + picture. We already have subjective and objective knowledge of the + basic principles by which individual may achieve the more constructive + social behavior which is natural to their organismic process of + becoming." + + _On Becoming a Person_ Carl R. Rogers Ph.D. + + "A New Integration + + What this line of thought has achieved for me is a fresh integration in + which the conflict between the `experientialist' and the `scientist' + tends to disappear. This particular intergration may not be acceptable + to others, but it does have meaning to me. Its major tenets have been + largely implicit in the preceding section, but I will try to state them + here in a way which takes cognizance of the arguments between the + opposing points of view. Science, as well as therapy, as well as all + other aspects of living, [as well as being a Contactee] is rooted in + and based upon the immediate, subjective, experience of a person. It + springs from the inner, total, organismic experiencing which is only + partially and imperfectly communicable. It is one phase of subjective + living. It is because I find value and reward in human relationships + that I enter into a relationship known as therapeutic, where feelings + and cognition merge into one unitary experience which is lived rather + than examined, in which awareness is non-reflective, and where I am the + participant rather than observer. But because I am curious about the + exquisite orderliness which appears to exist in the universe and in + this relationship I can abstract myself from the experience and look + upon it as an observer, making myself and/or others the objects of that + observation.[I feel the same way about Contact encounters] As observer + I use all of the hunches which grow out of the living experience. To + avoid deceiving myself as observer, to gain a more accurate picture of + the order which exists, I make use of all the cannons of science. + Science is not an impersonal something,but simply a person living + subjectively an other phase of himself. A deeper understanding of + therapy (or of any other problem) [like Contact issues] may come from + living it, or from the communication within the self between the two + types of experience. As to the subjective experience of choice, it is + not only primary in therapy, but it is also primary in the use of + scientific method by a person. + + [This is it,folks, the really good part] + + What I will do with the knowledge gained through scientific method -- + whether I will use it to understand, enhance, enrich, or use it to + control manipulate and destroy -- is a matter of subjective choice + dependent upon the values which have personal meaning for me. If, out + of fright and defensiveness, I block out from my awareness large areas + of experience, -- if I can see only those facts which support my + present beliefs, and am blind to all others -- if I can see only the + objective aspects of life, and cannot perceive the subjective -- if in + any way I cut off my perception from the full range of its actual + sensitivity -- then I am likely to be socially destructive, whether I + use as tool the knowledge and instruments of science, or the power and + emotional strength of a subjective relationship. And on the other hand + if I am open to my experience,and can permit all of the sensing of my + intricate organism to be available to my awareness, then I am likely to + use myself, my subjective experience, _and_ my scientific knowledge, in + ways which are realistically constructive. This then is the degree of + integration I have currently been able to achieve between two + approaches first experienced as conflicting." + + _On Becoming a Person_ Carl R. Rogers Ph.D. 1961 + + Houghton Mifflin Company + Boston + ISBN: 0-395-08134-3 + ISBN: 0-395-08409-1 pbk. + + ENDNOTES: I placed all of my comments in [ ] I hated to interject + myself into the text but it seemed like the best way to make sure that + I stayed on topic. I believe most readers are smart enough to have + caught those connections without my help. + + take care! + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2721.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2721.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ae54424b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2721.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,168 @@ +SUBJECT: CBC DOCUMENTARY FILE: UFO2721 + + +PART 1 + + + + + 02 Jul 91 11:37:00 + By: Bryce Eckstein, LATTICE~ (147/66) + Re: CBC Documentary + ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + I had not heard of David Jacobs prior to listening to the broadcast, + so I can't really comment on the apparent dichotomy in his position on + the abduction issue. However, here are all the literal transcriptions + of the Jacobs clips from the program: + ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Jacobs: + + "Basically what people say is, that they are abducted out of their + normal environment and are taken into this object, their clothes are + taken off, they are given a physical examination of an unusual + variety, -- and here we go plunging into the bizarre, but this is what + is reported by virtually everyone -- they have a sperm and/or an egg + sample taken from them and they are then subjected to a variety of + other procedures -- sometimes they are presented with extraordinary- + looking, little babies, uhh, strange looking beings that they are + required to hold and then they are sometimes given machine + examinations - placed inside machines and so forth, and then they are + released. Now, a lot of other things happen, but they do not always + happen at every occasion". + + Host: + + "Do they describe how the sperm and egg samples are taken?" + + Jacobs: + + well, eggs are taken internally, with certain very carefully described + instruments. Sperm is collected strictly mechanically. There are are + actually three or four different kinds of devices, basically they are + all the same though, and oftentimes the man doesn't even know what is + happening, it's a very quick procedure. What you are looking at + primarily here is an extraordinary convergence of story and detail, a + richness of detail that is impossible to understand other than through + objective reality. People begin to describe certain things within the + abduction - phenomenon that have never, ever been publicized and that + they would simply not know to invent. They all essentially say the + same thing, over and over again... and they'll say things and look at + me inquiringly and say, "has anybody else ever reported anything like + this?" .. and of course I've already heard it 200 times.. and it's + just an extraordinary situation. Now physically, when people think + they have had an abduction experience, they might first of all say + that there was a missing time experience, they cannot account for two + hours of their life. For instance they'll travel from work to home and + they know it takes 12 minutes each way and they've been doing it for + years and then one day it takes two ~hours~ and 12 minutes and they + are at a loss to explain this, it seemed perfectly seemless to them. + Well, in every one of these situations of missing time, the people + have actually ~been~ missing. It's not a situation where they claim + it, and then independent investigation has revealed that they were + down at the corner bar bending the old elbow. In fact, people have + called the police, because of missing children, search parties have + been organized looking for people, there has been every evidence to + suggest that people are not in place. The problem here is that if it + is not an objective event, then it is automatically internally + generated - people are just dreaming it up for whatever reason. But + the psychological and the psychiatric community have been unable to + account for how this could possibly be, and there is no precedent for + it in psychological or psychiatric literature - and most psychologists + and psychiatrists and therapists of all types who have confronted + this, have simply drawn a blank. It does not ~seem~ to be imaginary, + it does not ~seem~ to be internally generated". + + (Lengthy Betty Hill clip, continuing the abduction experience) + + Host: + + Betty and Barney Hill's abduction was the first ever reported. That + was 29 years ago. There have been so many reported abductions since, + that investigators are able to point to what ~they~ see as an amazing + similarity among these stories. All have the same sorts of events. + Aliens that look the same, the same physical examinations and so on. A + key element here is that certain features of these stories are + withheld from the public. That makes it much more difficult for anyone + to fake an abduction story. But it's frustrating. We'd all like to + know what some of these ~secret~ features are. But you can't ask the + researchers to reveal them... can you? Dr. David Jacobs." + + Jacobs: + + Sure you can. There's so many of them, there's so little that is known + about this subject in the public that it's just an extraordinary + situation. For instance, one of the things that people describe that + can now be revealed... as they say .. is the fact that when they leave + their car or their house or their bedroom or wherever they are during + an abduction event, they say something extraordinary, sort of amazing + that makes no sense whatsoever and they all seem to say this. They say + that they float up into the air and they appear to be floating + directly through a closed window. Now, this is an extraordinary thing + or course, and it's outrageous and unbelievable on the face of it. yet + they ~all~ say it, and they ~all~ realize when they are saying it that + it sounds crazy, and we have carefully, carefully questioned them + about whether they stopped first and opened the window and the screen + and the whole business... we don't have any cases of them opening the + window, they ~all~ say that they do this.. every one of them... and + the question is, why would they say this, this is a dumb thing to + say... this is a thing to say that will obviously point to some sort + of imagination or a hoax. But they're all fairly adamant that that's + what happens. We don't of course, understand what is happening here + completely, this is a little detail that just has not been published + before. + + Host: + + Don't you think I could come to you Dr. Jacobs knowing the little I + know about abduction stories. read a few more, then come to you and + say .. look. I had this strange experience, make up a bunch of details + and make a convincing story?" + + Jacobs: + + Well, there are two ways to deal with that. Number one, 90 percent of + the abduction phenomenon has not been publicized, so you'd have to bee + on target pretty good {chuckling} it's very tough to do. You'd be + amazed how difficult it is. In fact, I teach one of the few ... the + only course actually on UFO's in the United States at a major + university. I will tell students... give them an assignment if they + wish, to make up an abduction event and I will tell them they can read + anything that they want.. it doesn't matter, and I want them to tell + me several facts that ~all~ abductees say ~all~ the time, without + exception.. just to see it they can hit it. In the four years I've + been doing this, no one has hit it yet. What we are finding with the + abduction phenomenon is that is an extremely routinized, highly + structured event. Certain things happen to people and that's all .. in + other words, people don't describe going up .. and then your sort of + all over the place... y'know they don't describe getting out the + scrabble set and playing alien scrabble and that sort of stuff.. they + don't describe sitting down for a royal meal .. and they don't + describe watching tv with the boys. There is a whole range of things + that are never, ever described. What ~is~ described is very, ~very~ + narrow, and very, very structured. You have to go where the evidence + leads you. I think that people are actually describing experiences + that have befallen them. I think that aliens are in fact taking human + beings..... I must say Jay, (Jay Ingram - program host) that I don't + like this business. I find it extremely disturbing, very depressing. I + wish that I had not found this and I wish that ~all~ researchers had + not found this. But we have found it. I think we have to start coming + to terms with this on a fairly serious basis, even though this is + about as way out as one can get in this society these days. + + ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + + I don't know if what David Jacobs says in the documentary squares with + what you've heard of him in the past, but this is his position at this + moment. I hope the information has proven useful to you and others + reading. + + Cheers, + Bryce + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2722.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2722.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..dbbbd1e9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2722.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,158 @@ +SUBJECT: CBC DOCUMENTARY FILE: UFO2722 + + + +PART 2 + + + + 06-20-90 + + + David Jacobs + + + I would estimate that %99.99 of all abductees are unawares of what + has happened to them. Perhaps many of them know that they have had + strange, out of the ordinary experiences like missing time events, Out + of Body Experiences, "astral travel," seen ghosts, or even had deceased + relatives visit them at the foot of their beds, but these experiences + are chalked up to "normality" oftentimes. They have an available menu + of culturally determined explanations of strange occurrences and they + pick and chose among them to help explain what has happened to them. + Only a tiny fraction of abductees have systematically explored their + experiences with me or with Budd Hopkins and are fully aware of the + situation that they are involved in. I have handed out a questionnaire + geared toward helping me to gauge how many people might have had + abductions. I have given it to about 900 students at Temple university + over the past few years. Right now my statistics are running at about + %6.5 of potential abductees and that is being very conservative. When + the pressure gets too great on an abductee and he/she feels that + whatever has happened to them deserves some sort of an explanation, + they characteristically seek help or answers to their questions in + three main areas. The first is in the therapeutic community. They go to + psychologists and psychiatrists in search of help. They think that + there must be something wrong with them because they are having crazy + thoughts about being on board a UFO, etc. The therapeutic community has + not been very much help in this area. Usually they are given some sort + of a diagnosis that suggests childhood trauma of some sort or + pathology, in the case of psychiatrists. In fact some members of the + psychiatric and psychological communities have been damaging to these + people because of incompetence or avarice. The second area that people + migrate to in search of answers is evangelical or charismatic religious + groups or cults. In religion abductees are often given a "demonic" + explanation. They are told to pray and the demons will be excised. The + third area is New Age groups. Here they encounter channelers, and + believers in benevolent space brothers, and higher cosmic consciousness + and higher vibrational patterns, and universal love, and so forth. Many + of the abductees find solace and answers in any of these areas. For + many others, however, these areas do no provide satisfaction that they + have finally come to the end of their quest. When they come to either + Budd or me, however, and they finally uncover in more or less a + systematic way what has happened to them, the quest is over. They do + not go from us to another area still searching for answers. Now they + know and they may be frightened and freaked, but at least they have the + ability to gain some sort of intellectual and emotional control over + their lives--often for the first time. + + This is not a complete answer, and there are many other ways that + abductees suspect that something has happened to them, for instance, a + "triggering" mechanism often works when they see a picture of an alien + on a book jacket, or read something, or hear something. A bell goes off + in peoples' minds that suddenly alerts them to the fact that something + might have happened to them. On of the most important things to say, + however, is that it is unethical and downright dangerous for anyone to + suggest that another might have been the victim of abductions. I allow + people to come to me in anyway that they can. Even when they come to me + I issue strong warnings to them about the consequences of opening the + Pandora's box of memory collection. I send them a pamphlet that Budd + and I put together about the downside of memory collection. When I talk + to them again I again warn them. If they still want to go ahead, then + and only then do I attempt regressive hypnosis. This is not something + to do on a lark. The content of abductions can be fairly strong and + without proper guidance and experience the possibility of harm to the + abductee is great. + + The population of abductees that I have investigated is small. I have + worked with 49 individuals as of June, 1990. However, the way in which + I do abduction research is different than most investigators. I try to + spend as much time as possible with each abductee researching, on + separate occasions, as many abduction events as possible for each one. + We have found that all abductions begin in childhood and then continue + throughout one's life (with certain exceptions). I have discovered no + adult-onset abductions unless they are what I call "opportunistic" + abductions--the person is in close proximity to an abductee and is + therefore sometimes taken. Opportunistic abductions are uncommon. Thus + I have actually researched about 265 separate abduction events. People + have had as many as twenty-six sessions with me and as few as one. The + average length of my sessions is about five hours--from the time a + person walks in to the time he/she leaves. During the session I try to + bring out as much information as possible on a chronological basis-- + what happens to the abductee from the time he realizes that something + is first happening to him, say in his bedroom, until the event is over + and he is returned. Actual hypnosis time varies from one hour to three + hours. + + Generally speaking, we do not know why a particular person is + abducted. There appears to be no overt similarities, either mental or + physical between abductees. This appears to be a random phenomenon. + However, we have found a rather strong generational and familial link + with abductions. Abductions appear to begin in childhood and continue + throughout adulthood (there are exceptions to this). We have not found + a way to stop abductions. + + During an abduction, characteristic procedures are run on humans that + are quite narrow in their range. Most people report physical, mental + and reproductive events. Without going into too much detail, the main + physical event is the examination (there are many other physical + procedures) which is carried on in a surprising manner. The main mental + procedure is an examination of an abductee's emotional state after + observing some sort of mental imagery. People's emotions are played + with and they may feel a calming effect. Likewise it is very common for + people to see scenes of atomic explosions, during which they might feel + anxiety. These are part of the mental procedures. In the reproductive + area, people report that sperm and eggs are harvested from them. They + are also shown odd looking babies that they are sometimes required to + hold. + + Abductees are mentally altered during the abduction so that it is + extremely difficult to understand what is happening while it is + happening. A selective form of amnesia is most commonly in place + immediately after the abduction so that most people do not know what + has happened to them--except unconsciously, if that is "knowing." + + Recovering the memories is a difficult task. Not only is there a + certain amount of trauma involved, but often there is heavy + confabulation, false memories, incomplete memories, and pseudo-memories + placed in the abductee's mind as part of mental procedures. + Furthermore, the physical aftereffects of the phenomenon can be severe- + -scars, internal scar tissue, eye damage, and so forth. It is, however, + the mental effects that are most important for people's lives-- + affording the most damage and the most trauma. Thus investigating + abductions is a very delicate endeavor. One must know what to say, what + to ask, what is coming next, what is being skipped over, what is being + held back, what is going to be traumatic, and what is going to have the + biggest effect on the abductee whether he/she realizes it or not. Above + all, the investigator must have the psychological acumen to help the + abductee deal with the material both while the memories are being + recalled, and after the session is over. At the same time the + investigator must accumulate the most amount of data as is possible-- + given the enormity and importance of the event. Unfortunately there are + few who can do this. Sometimes people who need help with abductions + seek advice and counsel from well meaning but incompetent + psyhotherapists and even some erstwhile UFO researchers. Unfortunately + not enough have been trained to service the vast number of abductees + who need this help. Budd Hopkins and I have been involved with trying + to train therapists to deal with abductees. This is an uphill battle + and although progress has been made, we have a long struggle ahead of + us. in the meantime, for those of you who think that you might have had + abduction experiences, think very carefully about whether you want to + open up the Pandora's Box of memories and if you decide to go ahead, be + extremely careful who you decide upon. The potential for harm is there. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2723.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2723.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3f767c42 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2723.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +SUBJECT: IMPLANT & COMMUNICATION FILE: UFO2723 + + + + + + By: Clemens Vermeulen + To: All + Re: Implant & Communication + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + This is a REPOST of this message. I have reason to believe that it did + not get away at the time of posting...... + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + On wednesday night each week at 8:00pm at an address at Douglas Track, + Freedom County via Kuranda Q 4872, you have the opportunity to meet + Jannie King and her friend & companion P'Taah. + + On 27/11/91 Jannie told a group of about 40 people from the district + that back in 1947, as a little girl while living on a remote and + isolated forestry farm in New Zealand, she was taken aboard a craft and + had a medical procedure/ implant performed on her. + + She remembers especially the fact that while she had been away for + several hours, nobody at the farm house appeared to be concerned about + her absence. + + Details about the event have been very vague in Jannies memory until + she underwent regression theraphy or hypnosis, during which she once + again became fully conscious of the events that took place that day. + + In the 60's Jannie then had her first and only physical(!?) meeting + with P'Taah, an energy being who has since that time been channeled by + Jannie in group work and in private sittings. + + Recently, (13/11/91) transmissions were completed for a book which is + expected to be available in February 1992. For further information you + may care to contact the publisher: Peter O Erbe on telephone +61-70- + 930-121. + + Once we have obtained permission to do so, we may be able to publish + some excerpts from these transmissions on this echo area. + + Regards + Clemens + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2724.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2724.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e16296dc --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2724.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,145 @@ +SUBJECT: HABITABLE PLANETS FILE: UFO2724 + + + + + Date: 01-24-92 20:29 + From: David Galea + Subj: Habitable Planets, from the January 1992 JBIS. + + * Originally dated 22 Jan 1992, 9:05 + + From: klaes@mtwain.enet.dec.com (Larry Klaes) + Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation + + + The following posting is a summary written by my friend and co-worker, + Drew LePage, of an article in the January 1992 issue of the JOURNAL OF + THE BRITISH INTERPLANETARY SOCIETY (JBIS), Volume 45, Number 1. Titled + "An Estimate of the Prevalence of Biocompatible and Habitable Planets", + it is authored by M. J. Fogg. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + There is a very interesting article in the January 1992 edition of + the JOURNAL OF THE BRITISH INTERPLANETARY SOCIETY (JBIS) on the + likelihood of various types of stars having habitable or biocompatible + planets. A biocompatible planet is one where the long term presence of + surface liquid water provides environmental conditions suitable for for + the origin and evolution of life. There are three subsets of + biocompatible planets: + + * Juvenile Martian - As the name implies, it is a planet with condition + similar to those found on Mars early in its life. The planet would + receive between 27% and 75% of the light we presently receive from the + Sun and possess plate tectonics or some other geochemical carbon cycle. + Mars was this type for its first one billion years. + + * Juvenile Terran - Again as the name implies, this is a planet with + conditions similar to those found on the early Earth. The planet would + receive between 75% and 95% of the light we presently receive from the + Sun and be geologically active. Earth was this type of planet for its + first four billion years (i.e. during the Precambrian period). + + * Habitable - This is a planet with Earthlike conditions. The planet + would receive between 95% and 110% of the light we receive and be + geologically active. + + The author of the study collected the results of various studies to + determine what conditions produce biocompatible and habitable planets, + the evolution of stars and the effects on planetary environ-ments, the + likely distribution of planets in other systems, as well as others. + The results of the author's simulations indicate the following: + + * Habitable planets can exist around stars with 0.8 to 1.8 times the mass + of the Sun. + + * Biocompatible planets can exist around stars with 0.5 to 1.8 times the + mass of the Sun. + + * Habitable planets may occur around >3% of the stars between 0.85 and + 1.45 times the mass of the Sun. + + * Biocompatible planets may occur around >30% of the stars between 0.8 + and 1.25 time the mass of the Sun. + + If only single stars possess planets: + + * There would be one habitable planet for every 413 stars. + + * The mean distance between systems with habitable planets would be 31 + light years. + + * There would be one biocompatible planet for every 39 stars. + + * The mean distance between systems with biocompatible planets would be + 14 light years. + + * There would be about 362 biocompatible (of which 34 would be habitable) + planets within 100 light years of us. + + If planets could form in multiple star systems: + + * There would be one habitable planet for every 196 stars. + + * The mean distance between systems with habitable planets would be 24 + light years. + + * There would be one biocompatible planet for every 18 stars. + + * The mean distance between systems with biocompatible planets would be + 11 light years. + + * There would be about 763 biocompatible (of which 71 would be habitable) + planets within 100 light years of us. + + The author goes further and calculates the probability of the nearer + stars having biocompatible or habitable planets. Assuming that planets + can form in multiple star systems the following probabilities were + calculated: + + Name Distance (LY) Type Habitable Biocompatible + + Alpha Centauri A 4.38 G2V 7.8% 44% + Alpha Centauri B 4.38 K6V 4.4% 38% + Epsilon Eridani 10.69 K2V 0.6% 34% + 61 Cygni A 11.17 K5V 0.0% 5.8% + 61 Cygni B 11.17 K7V 0.0% 0.3% + Epsilon Indi 11.21 K5V 0.0% 18% + Lacille 9352 11.69 M2 0.0% <0.3% + Tau Ceti 11.95 G8V 1.5% 35% + Lacille 8760 12.54 M1V 0.0% 1.5% + Groombridge 1618 15.03 K7 0.0% 2.5% + 70 Ophiuchi A 16.73 K1 4.4% 38% + 70 Ophiuchi B 16.73 K6 0.0% 16% + 36 Ophiuchi A 17.73 K0V 0.0% 28% + 36 Ophiuchi B 17.73 K1V 0.0% 27% + 36 Ophiuchi C 17.73 K5V 0.0% 9.0% + HR 7703 A 18.43 K3V 0.0% 27% + Sigma Draconis 18.53 K0V 1.5% 35% + Delta Pavonis 18.64 G5 5.1% 39% + Eta Cassiopeiae A 19.19 G0V 3.9% 38% + Eta Cassiopeiae B 19.19 M0 0.0% 0.7% + HD 36395 19.19 M1V 0.0% 0.5% + Wolf 294 19.41 M4 0.0% <0.3% + +5301320 A 19.65 M0 0.0% 0.6% + +5301320 B 19.65 M0 0.0% 0.5% + -45013677 20.6 M0 0.0% <0.3% + 82 Eridani 20.9 G5 4.4% 38% + Beta Hydri 21.3 G1 7.5% 35% + HR 8832 21.4 K3 0.0% 23% + + Assuming that the author's simulations and calculations are correct, + there could be as many as 5.6 BILLION biocompatible planets in our + galaxy of which about 500 MILLION are habitable. And, as the above + table shows, the nearest biocompatible planet could only be 4.38 light + years away. + + Drew LePage + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2725.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2725.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d73f27cc --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2725.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +SUBJECT: SKEPTICS FILE: UFO2725 + + + + + + Date: 01-12-91 00:19 + From: Jim Greenen + To: all + Subj: skeptics + + These comments are for the debunkers, Phillip Klass's, Amazing Randy's + and All skeptics on this subject of ET's, UFO's and if you so desire to + lump other paranormal related activity into a group that deals with + something of a physical nature, so be it. + + You people make claims when someone shows you a pictures of what they + claim our alien space crafts or we will use the word UFO's, that these + pictures are fake because photographs can be faked. Now that last + statement is a fact, pictures can be fake but are all pictures fake. I + think we can both agree on this one. No, all pictures are not fake. + Then why do you people say that the holder of the pictures must prove + that his pictures are not fake. But in the Gulf Breeeze and the Billy + Meier photographs (and many, many others) these pictures have analyze + using the most advance equipment that is available. Yet you still claim + that they are a hoax. The Billy Meier photo's have cost the + investigating team over $60,000 out of their pockets to have 4 of + Billy's pictures analyze and the results were that they could not find + any faking of those pictures. + + If a robber walk into a bank and was photograph with the bank camera + and these picures were presented at the trial, and the defense attorney + made a statement that photgraphs can be faked so there for the accused + is incident. I think that unless he had some proof of his claim he + would be laughed out of court and possibly loose his license over that + statement. + + I have no problem with so called skeptics and I welcome them for they + can keep us honest and can input something that possibly we over looked + and this is good. But to come out with statements "photo's can be + faked" and all pilots that have seen UFO's should have their eyes + examine, all people that claimed to seen UFO's are uneducated hill- + billies are not worth listening to. And I myself have a problem dealing + with these sort of indiviuals, as you probably notice. + + I spend a lot of my time and money going out to investigate sightings + and listening to people that claim to have been taken aboard a alien + space craft or claim to be in communcation. I don't necessary believe + all that I hear but I do listen to what they have to say and I've heard + some that even a person with a open mind has problems with. I can tell + you two things from what I've found and that is something or somebody + is making visits to the planet that we are living on (notice I didn't + use the words, OUR planet). And two, that OUR government is and have + been keeping this information from us for 40+ years. + + Now, what I want you all to do is to make a copy of this and retain it + in your files. I going to tell you something that is not a prediction + but information or possibly maybe disinformation that I have obtain + from unknown sources that I can't disclose at this time. In 1992 and I + can give you the exact date and how but I won't because that would + reveal the source, that OUR government and all governments of the world + will acknowledge that we our being visited by ET's from other parts of + the universe. Now when this happens and its in the works right now, + what are all you skeptics and debunkers going to do? Will you go in + hiding or will you stand up and take the lumps like a man. I think + Phillip will retire just before this happens and will keep a very low + profile, lets make that a prediction, OK. + + Now, about this other thing on lumping the UFO, new age religion, + psychics, etc. into one catagory is ridicules and shows that your group + lacks any solid evidence to back your claims and there for have to put + all into one group. Then you go out and pull any person off the streets + that nobody knows or has any backing to their abilities and make fools + of them in front of the public. This is not only cruel to that person + but also down grades respect for your organization. Your philosophy is, + because this person shows that he does not have psychic abilities and + that he claims too, then all reports of sightings of UFO's, and etc. + are false. HOG-WASH!!!!. You prove to me that the evidence in Gulf + Breeze, Billy Meier, Fyffe, Roswell and the 1 million other cases are + false, The Ufologist around the world have brought to you and the + general public our findings. Now lets hear yours and lets keep it UFO + related OK. + + The best of 1991 to all + + ---Jim--- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2726.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2726.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f1d8adec --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2726.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,221 @@ +SUBJECT: JOHN MACK ON ABDUCTION FILE: UFO2726 + + + + + + + The Harvard University Gazette is a publication largely internal to + Harvard. It prints information about seminars, research and whatnot, + along with spotlights on interesting professors and areas of study. + + In the most recent issue (July 24, 1992) a full page is devoted to + John Mack, an MD affiliated with Harvard who believes that aliens + routinely abduct midwestern housewives and perform strange experiments + on them. + + The article is extremely generous to Mack; in fact, it could scarcely + be more so. + + I would like to write a full response to the Gazette, and was + wondering if anybody reading this post could point me to relevant + sources of information about the 'abductions' and 'visitors' and so on. + + The article follows, in its entirety. + + --- + + Accounting for Stories of Alien Abduction Psychiatrist John Mack shares + his convictons [sic] that these reports are 'authentic and disturbing + mysteries' + + By Deane W. Lord + Gazette Staff + + From Ancient Greece to the present, humankind has asked, Is there + life beyond planet Earth? And, if so, what form does it take? + + Last month some 100 researchers and mental health professionals + gathered in Cambridge to explore the possibility of extraterrestrial + life and to examine and compare the experiences of abductees--men and + women who claim to have been kidnapped by alien beings, taken aboard + spacecraft, and eventually released. + + The four-day closed meeting drew some of the most ardent and long- + term researchers who presented short papers on their work. Chief among + them was conference co-organizer Medical School Psychiatry Professor + John Mack, who became involved with the UFO question two and a half + years ago. Though he began as a total skeptic, he admitted, he now + believes that the experiences of abductees "are an extremely important + phenomenon"-and that "we can't begin to understand them without a shift + in our world view." + + He believes that mental dualism in the West--"we're here, you're + there"--will prevent many from being open minded about the possibility + of alien abductions. These experiences are shattering our world view + [by suggesting] that we may be connected with other beings beyond + ourselves.... The proposition attacks the arrogance of our ideas and + makes a mockery of our technology. + + Estimates vary as to how many individuals have had abduction + experiences. According to a Roper Organization poll, one out of every + 50 American adults-- some 3.7 million people indicate that they have + had an encounter with an unidentified flying object or an alien being. + + "It is possible that hundreds of thousands, or even millions, of + people in this country alone have undergone abduction experiences," + said Mack. + + Because of the stigma attached to revealing such experiences, he + believes many people remain underground, too ashamed or alarmed to + admit the experience. + + "The more prominent the person, the more likely he or she will be + reluctant to come forward as they have more to lose," he said. "Often, + once they seek help, abductees prefer to be diagnosed as crazy." + + A well-known psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, Mack reports that of the + 60 cases he has worked on he has found, -to his surprise, that after a + battery of psychological tests, "no psychiatric or psychosocial + explanation for these reports is evident. These people are not mentally + ill." He has spent countless therapeutic hours with these individuals + only to find that what struck him was the "ordinariness" of the + population, including a restaurant owner, several secretaries, a prison + guard, college students, a university administrator, and several + homemakers. + + "The majority of abductees do not appear to be deluded, + confabulating, lying, self-dramatizing, or suffering from a clear + mental illness," he maintained. He has encountered only one person who + showed psychotic features. + + The central finding of most researchers, including Mack, is that + there is one archetypal abduction experience and that most abduction + memories contain very limited variations on a standard scenario. A + typical encounter would begin with uneasy feelings of foreboding, a + fear-inducing appearance of small alien beings, transport to a + spacecraft, examination and other procedures performed on a special + table, various tests and tasks given, the introduction of more + favorable feelings toward the aliens, and finally a return to pre- + abduction activities and states of consciousness. + + + For most of the abductees, the experience is fearful and many repress + the details. Often, hypnosis brings back the traumatic episode and + helps the abductee recover memories of the entire event, Mack and + others have found. + + "Particularly impressive to me has been the intense resistance and + disturbing affect, especially fear, as memories of traumatic abduction + experiences begin to emerge under hypnosis or through conscious + recall," said Mack. He and others find it hard to explain the marks + left on some bodies from red triangles on the chest to incisions on + arms and legs. Several have had implants in their ears and noses but, + upon study, physicists and biochemists find no unearthly material. + + "Any adequate theory of alien abductions, even a useful hypothesis, + must account for a broad range of puzzling phenomena," said Mack. + + In his inventory of occurrences, he includes narrative consistency. + "The stories that abductees tell vary in their details, but they have a + hard edge of narrative consistency," he found. He dismisses the + argument that abductees influence one another and believes that "what + more often happens is that when abductees communicate with each other + about their abductions or watch television or film versions of + abductions, they fill in details of what they have already experienced + and are trying to clarify." + + Even though many abductions occur independent of UFO sightings, a + close association between UFO encounters and abduction experiences has + been consistently observed, noted Mack. + + Mack believes a convincing theory must be found for the bizarre + physical effects, such as termination of pregnancy, sexual liaisons, + incisions, and implants that abductees report. + + A way also must be found to account for the abduction reports of + children as young as 2. These are, Mack said, "emotionally intense and + seemingly authentic, detailed experiences [from young people] whose + exposure to outside sources of information has been limited." + + The abduction phenomenon, said Mack, "confronts us with an authentic + and disturbing mystery. There is no way, I believe, that we can even + make sense, let alone provide a convincing explanation, of this matter + within the framework of our existing views of what is real or possible. + Our psychological theories do not include a way of accounting for the + simultaneous occurrence among thousands of people, unacquainted with + each other, including small children, of complex, elaborate, and + sometimes overwhelmingly powerful experiences that resemble one another + in minute detail, accompanied by equally peculiar physical phenomena." + + Mack also thinks that the current understanding of physical reality + "whereby a population of beings from some other space/time realm can + enter our world with such limited detection and affect so many people" + defies our accepted notions of scientific reality. + + Like others, Mack believes the phenomenon is worthy of more inquiry. + "The phenomenon may deliver to us a kind of fourth blow to our + collective egoism, following those of Copernicus, Darwin, and Freud. We + may be led to realize that we are not physically at the center of the + universe, . . . we are not even the preeminent or dominant intelligence + in the cosmos in control of our psychological and physical existences. + + "It appears that we can be 'invaded' or taken over, if not literally + by other creatures, then by some other form of being or consciousness + that seems able to do with us what it will for a purpose we cannot yet + fathom." + + Sidebar: + + Research on human lives, with purpose and idealism + + + About three years ago, a colleague asked John Mack to meet writer + Budd Hopkins, the author of Intruders, a book recently made into a + television movie on the experiences of abductees. + + Mack was highly skeptical; "there was no way I could understand the + phenomena," he recalled. + + But Mack did meet with Hopkins, and became fascinated by the stories + he heard. The conversation ultimately led Mack into abductee research; + from 1990 to January of this year, he interviewed 34 adults and + children who claim to have encountered aliens, and will write a book + about the phenomenon. + + His work with abductees impressed him "with the powerful dimension of + personal growth that accompanies the traumatic experiences. An intense + concern for the planet's survival and a powerful ecological + consciousness seem to develop for many abductees. For me and other + investigators, abduction research has had a shattering impact on our + views of the nature of the cosmos." + + He is most proud of his work at Cambridge Hospital's psychiatry + department, which he founded in 1962. He won a 1977 Pulitzer Prize for + his biography of Lawrence of Arabia, A Prince of Our Disorder: The Life + of T.E. Lawrence (Little, Brown and Co.). He has also published + extensively in the areas of psychobiography and the psychosocial + effects of the nuclear arms race. + + As an investigator of the psychology of the nuclear arms race, Mack, + 62, founded the Center for Psychology and Social Change, a Cambridge- + based research organization devoted to the psychosocial study of human + violence, conflict, and images of the enemy. The center has recently + enlarged its focus to include the preservation of the environment. + + Mack received his M.D. from Harvard in 1955, and graduated from the + Boston Psychoanalytic Institute in 1967 and was certified as a child + analyst in 1969. He graduated from Oberlin College, phi beta kappa. + + He has been a professor of psychiatry at the Cambridge Hospital, an + affiliate of the the Medical School [sic], since 1972 and was head of + the Department of Psychiatry there from 1973 to 1977. A faculty member + of the Boston Psychoanalytic Society, he is also currently president of + the International Society for Political Psychology. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2727.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2727.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..391c3e83 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2727.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +SUBJECT: IMPLANT RECOVERED FILE: UFO2727 + + + + + + Date : 09-07-91 00:49 + From : Joe Holland + Subject: Implant Recovered + + + Budd Hopkins and some of his abductees appeared in a segment of the + Joan Rivers show on CBS channel 2 in Los Angeles, 3pm 5/25/90. + + One of the abductees told how, in 1955, when he was 8 years old, he + was controlled and made to come to a spacecraft, that was half the size + of a football field, that was just sitting there on the ground in a + forested area. The spacecraft looked larger on the inside than it did + on the outside. He was taken around inside the spacecraft, and was put + on an examination table, and an implant was put under his skin in the + lower abdominal area. While this was being done, he was able to watch + the proceedure on a large screen like a video screen. + + After they put it in, they set him up on the side of the table and + said, "leave it alone, or you will die". The aliens did not say much to + him, "it was mostly push and shove." + + He did not actually get around to telling anyone about this + experience, until 1957, when he told it to his grandmother, who advised + him not to say anything, or people would think there was something + wrong with him. + + In June 1989, the implant appeared above the skin, of its own accord, + while he was getting ready to go somewhere. This was 34 years after it + had been implanted. He then called his doctor to tell him about it. + + Joan Rivers asked him to be more specific about where on his body it + had been, but he declined to say for personal reasons. He said there + was no scar. + + We did not get to see the implant on screen, but he produced a tiny + little box about 1.7 cm cube. He handed this to Joan Rivers, and told + her that the box had a magnifying glass in the top of the box, so she + could see into it. On camera, she held it right close to her eye and + looked inside and said that oh yes, she did see it, but did not + describe it. She asked what it was, but he said no one knows what it + is. + + He went on to describe that there was another piece of it that he had + given to a professor to examine, that had tiny things sticking out of + it like wires, except that they were not wires, they were something + else. He said something like, it could be cut, but I did not get, + whether they had cut up this precious artifact, to try to see what was + in it, or if it had come apart, or whatever. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2728.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2728.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..119f0910 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2728.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +SUBJECT: ARMY NAVY CRACK DOWN FILE: UFO2728 + + + + + + From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, July 9, 1947 + + FLYING DISC TALES DECLINE + AS ARMY, NAVY CRACK DOWN + + By United Press + + + Reports of flying saucers whizzing through the sky fell off sharply + today as the army and navy began a concentrated campaign to stop the + rumors. + + One by one, persons who thought they had their hands on the $3,000 + offered for a genuine flying saucer found their hands full of nothing. + + Headquarters of the 8th army at Fort Worth, Texas. announced that + the wreakage of a tin-foil covered object found on a New Mexico ranch + was nothing more than the remanants of a weather ballon. AAF + headquarters in Washington reportedly delivered a "blistering" rebuke + to officers at the Roswell, New Mexico, base for suggesting that it + was a "flying disc." + + A 16 inch aluminum disc equiped with two radio condensers, a + flourescent light switch and copper tubing found by F.G. Harston near + the Shreveport, Louisiana, business district was declared by police to + be "obviously the work of a prankster." Police believed the prankster + hurled it over a sign board and watched it land at Harston's feet. It + was turned over to officials at Barksdale army air field. + + U.S. navel intelligence officers at Pearl Harbor investigated clains + by 100 navy men that they saw a mysterious object "silvery colored, + like aluminum, with no wings or tail," sail over Honolulu at a rapid + clip late yesterday. The description fit a weather ballon but 5 of the + men, familiar with weather obsevation devices, swore that it was not a + ballon. + + "It moved extremely fast for a short period, seemed to slow down, + then disappeared high in the air," said Yeoman 1/C Douglas Kacherle of + New Bedford, Massachusetts. His story was corroborated by Seaman 1X + Donald Ferguson, Indianapolis; Yeoman 3/C Morris Kzamme, La. Crosse, + Wisconsin, Seaman 1/C Albert Delancey, Salem, West Virginia, and + Yeoman 2/C Ted Pardue, McClain, Texas. + + Admiral William H. Blandy, commander-in-chief of the Atlantic fleet, + said like everyone else he was curious about the reported flying + saucers "but I do not believe they exist." + + Lloyd Bennett, Oelwein, Iwoa, salesman, was stubborn about the shiny + 6 1/2-inch steel disc he found yesterday. Authorities said it was not + a "flying saucer" but Bennett said he would claim the reward offered + for the mysterious discs. + + There were other discards. Not all the principles were satisfied + with the annoucement that the wreakage found on the New Mexico ranch + was that of a weather ballon. + + The excitement ran through this cycle: + + 1. Lt. Warren Haught, public relations officer at the Roswell base, + released a statement in the name of Col. William Blanchard, bsae + commander. It said that an object described as a "flying disc" was + found on the nearby Foster ranch 3 weeks ago by W.W. Brazel and been + sent to "higher officials" for examination. + + 2. Brigadier General Roger B. Ramey, commander of the 8th air force, + said at Fort Worth that he believed the object was the "remnant of a + weather ballon and a radar reflector," and was "nothing to be excited + about" He allowed photographers to take a picture of it. It was + announced that the object would be sent to Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio + for examination by experts. + + 3. Later, Warrant Officer Irving Newton, Stessonville, Wisconsin, + weather officer at Fort Worth, examined the object and said definitely + that it was nothing but a badly smashed target used to determine the + direction and velocity of high altitude winds. + + 4. Lt. Haught reportedly told reporters that he has been "shut up by + two blistering phone calls from Washington." + + 5. Efforts to contact Col. Blanchard brought the information that "he + is now on leave." + + 6. Maj. Jesse A. Marcel, intelligence officer of the 509th bombardment + group, reportedly told Brazel, the finder of the object, that "it has + nothing to do with army or navy so far as I can tell." + + 7. Brazel told reporters that he has found weather ballon equip- ment + before, but had seen nothing that had resembled his latest find. + + 8. Those men who saw the object said it had a flowered paper tape + around it bearing the initials "D.P." + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2729.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2729.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..87c3b7fd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2729.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +SUBJECT: ABDUCTING GRAY ALIENS - FOOTNOTE FILE: UFO2729 + + + + + + + For those of you that have read John White's Paper JWHITE.TXT, John + asked that the following footnote be added. This footnote was written + after John spoke with Betty Andreasson Luca whom has also read his + paper. + + *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% + NOTE: This footnote pertains to page 4 line 20 after "Planet Earth" + *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% + + ** I want to point out that I have limited this entire statement to one + class of entities: abducting gray aliens. I am an not condemning *all* + gray aliens. I'm willing to believe there may be "good" ones, just as + there are good and bad people. Nor do I mean to have people regard all + abductees with suspicion and fear, which might lead to a modern witch + hunt against them. I trust that my genuine sympathy for them is clear. + I say this because Betty Andreasson Luca and Bob Luca do not agree with + me concerning the possibility of Manchurian Candidate programming -- of + themselves and others. They do not believe that all Grays are evil, + and would refer people to two quotations from their books. Betty points + to her statement from *The Andreasson Affair* as evidence: "He + [Quazgaa] says my race won't believe me until much time has passed- + *our* time... They love the human race. They have come to help the + human race" (pp.110-111, Bantam edition). Bob points to his statement + in *The Andreasson Affair -- Phase Two*: "[Fred Max, hypnotist] Why do + they need to meet other people?" [Bob] "Prepare us for something good. + Going to be for mankind" (p. 40, Prentice Hall edition." + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2730.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2730.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..90b51431 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2730.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,679 @@ +SUBJECT: ASHTAR COMMAND FILE: UFO2730 + + + + + + Sun 26 Jan 92 12:50 + By: John Powell + Re: Ashtar Command + ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The following information has been graciously provided by our friend + Norma. It was transmitted to her from Kuthumi; + + August 7, 1988 (This transcription came to me early Sunday morning, + after I had a very vivid and active dream state during the night on + "Empowerment".) + + EMPOWERMENT + + Empowerment is the act of reclaiming one's power. It, by definition, + means to journey to the inner most depths of one's consciousness and to + retrieve the Force that sustains life, and to reclaim this inheritance. + It can do nothing but enlighten the individual who seeks and finds it. + + The power of enlightenment comes from ancient ceremonies of the + elders of the elite passing down the information and wisdom of the ages + to those who are deemed to be the new initiates of this truth. + + The power of the initiation is the strengthening of the will power + and the belief systems, that one's own consciousness is in tune with an + energy force field that supports one's human abilities. When the human + psyche joins forces with this incredible Force that supports all + knowledge and wisdom, then it is through the human that this Force is + able to be put into motion on the manifest plane. + + The reason that empowerment is so important for New Age individuals + today, is because the earth is experiencing its rebirth and proceeding + through its own "rite of passage." It is in this "coming of age" that + the planet will need to be initialized by the elders. The awakening of + humanity is such that many souls are in tune with the energy + transformation that the earth is enacting. The higher vibration energy + and the forces that are being put into action by this frequency are + those which need to be commanded by the initiates and the elders, to + assure that harmony and perfection will result in this new birthing + process. + + There must be no room for a birth defect. This cannot be allowed for + it is not in the cosmic, divine plan of the universe. Therefore, the + degree to which the 144,000 Spiritual Warriors learn their roles and + acquire their powers will determine the degree of perfection to which + the Beloved Terra will emerge. + + Everything must move in harmony and perfection. All in the oneness of + the spirit must govern the forces that initialize the new life of the + earth. Only those who are deemed the strongest and the most worthy in + the eyes of the Divine will emerge to the bottom of the pyramid, to + lead the new earth to its destiny. + + Why did I say "bottom" of the pyramid? It is because the new + leadership that will emerge will be that leadership which knows how to + channel the forces from within the center of the universe, which is + within men and women. That is where the power of the future lies. The + elders of all ancient civilizations all know this to be true. It is + only the tricksters that deceive, and allow others to believe the true + power is outside of themselves. + + The leadership of one or few individuals governing all souls in a + harsh and controlling fashion, is indeed one of the past. The true + leaders will emulate your Brother, Jesus, who ruled the masses by + becoming one of them and guiding them to the use of the powers and + force themselves. Bringing forth the good in all humans, and teaching + them to be Masters themselves, is what the Beloved destined for all of + humankind. That is each soul's birth right, and that is the secret to + the path that we each are on. + + So, therefore, visualize your power at the bottom of the pyramid, and + sit among those who you teach. That is the real strength of your tests. + Have no ego, only your heart. That will be the measurement of your + success. + + The 144,000 Spiritual Leaders who will be emerging into the new + decade will all know this unwritten law, and will triumph in its code. + That is a promise, and that is the truth. So Be It! + + The date of the August 8, 1988 is that of a test of the empowerment + for the masses. Presently, there are many more on the path than those + who will "graduate" in the learning of the Most High. The energies are + such on that date, that one will be able to tap into a multiplier + effect of power to continue the manifestation of the exponential effect + of the energy. A true Spiritual Warrior does not even have to know of + that date in the mind, for that soul will automatically know that each + day is a test for the accomplishment of the honor to be counted among + the elite. Therefore, the true Spiritual Warriors will all be taking + advantage of this high energy day. Those who are informed of this date + and experiences, will have the privilege of knowing, on the conscious + level, that this intensified experience will be one that will serve + many rewards in the future. + + The saying, "Many are called, but few are chosen" is beginning to + manifest itself in this countdown of the selection of the souls. In + reality it is a self-selection process, for the free will within humans + is what will actually make the determination. We, on the Ascended + Masters level, provide every opportunity for advancement in this + process to all souls on the beloved planet. It is the souls who + ultimately make the choice for their own destinies. + + The number 144,000 is especially significant for it is the multiplier + effect of the twelve. The number twelve has always been one of the most + significant numbers known to the earth inhabitants. + + You have twelve months in the year, there are twelve zodiacal signs + and twelve houses which represent the twelve aspects of the human + personality. The pyramid's multiplier of the three sides of each wall + of the triangle times the four sides of the base of its structure also + contains one of the mysteries of the All. Then, there is the + significance of the selection of the twelve apostles that Jesus chose + to continue His work on the earth plane, after His ascension. + + It is this latter example that I will focus the remainder of my + instruction today, continuing on with the lesson of empowerment to the + 144,000. Each of the apostles was selected because he represented one + aspect of the human psyche that needed to be developed to reach + enlightenment. In order to be one with the spirit, one needs to be in + tune with all twelve sides of the personality that strives to become + united with God. Peter was the builder, Matthew was the singer of the + songs through his messages, Thomas was the doubter, etc. Even Judas + played an important role, for if he had not fulfilled the prophesy and + betrayed Jesus, the scriptures could not have been fulfilled. + + The 144,000 Spiritual Warriors who are emerging on the beloved earth + today are each representative of one of those Apostles' primary energy + fields. The multiplier effect of 12 x 12,000 brings the number to + 144,000. That does not mean that each soul can only develop 1/12 of the + totality of understanding to reach enlightenment themselves. What it + does mean is that instead of 12 separate souls doing the work on the + planet, there are now 12,000 souls in each of the categories that are + emerging to fulfill the scriptures in this passage of time. Therefore, + the original work of the Great Masters is still unfolding in this drama + of time and space that you know in this third dimension of existence. + + They are labeled the Rainbow Warriors, for it is they who will bring + the secrets of the Light energy to the masses upon the planet. And it + is only this information that will provide the foundation for the + rebirth to be perfect. Nothing in this universe is sustained without + Light. Nothing that is known to the earth is manifested without the + mastery of the spectrum of colors and the vibration of the sound. It is + this information that is once again being revealed to the souls, so + that they may usher in the cries of the infant who is awaiting the + Baptism into the Spirit. For the Spirit is one with the Light and all + is in the Oneness of God. + + I Am Kuthumi, the Father and Teacher of the New Age. I thank you for + this opportunity to speak through you on this glorious day of the eve + of the exponential. + + Transmitted through Norma in Albuquerque, NM. + -------- + + 8-8-88 The Exponential Event + + For this special evening, seven of us gathered at my home in + Albuquerque, New Mexico. The group consisted of Norma, Trece, Linda, + Felicia, Irene, Charlie, and myself. Each of these individuals brings a + unique background....some highly advanced psychic abilities and some of + innocence and wonder. + + We discussed the Transmissions that have been received by Norma and + myself in regard to this important date. We've had so many affirmations + of the significance of this date. Astrologers have confirmed the + unusual aspects and positions of the planets, and astronomers just + announced they discovered a new galaxy. + + *** + + Others have been touched by feelings of intense energy that is + emerging from the cosmos. This is not an outward, physical event. + + This seventh ray energy will touch the hearts, minds and souls of the + Chosen Ones. Therefore do not be discouraged by those who mock and + attempt to lessen the importance of this transformation. This energy + conversion is occurring regardless of what is seen in the physical. + Those who are touched KNOW it has happened. The transformation did + occur as predicted, precisely during the 8 minute span of your time + from 8:00 pm to 8:08 pm on 8-8-88. The energy came in a shower of + light. Many of the Chosen Ones "saw" a ray of light, others "felt" + energized. The Christ Consciousness has been implanted in the Chosen + Ones. The Powers are real. Communication is telepathic and as we said + each Believer has an important role. You are the messenger....see how + easily the necessary information comes to you. + + Continue to share this information with the other Believers. They + will feel comforted by your continuing Transmissions and these + Transmissions will provide the support and encouragement for their + works to progress. Revel in delight that you have this gift. Do not + feel sad or discouraged that you are not a "see-er". Each role is of + equal importance for the continuing transformation of your planet. As + "Kuthumi" conveyed, each Believer has a gift. Each Believer KNOWS of + their gift in their heart and mind. Use these gifts. As Jesus said "Use + your talents. What I have done all men can do, and what I am all men + shall be." "The works I do, ye shall do also, and greater works shall + ye do." + + The Chosen Ones shall lead the way. There will come a time on your + planet when all people shall have visible powers and the extraordinary + shall seem common. That time is close at hand.... a few years of your + earth time. Do not feel sad or discouraged. I know many of you are + growing impatient and you feel the changes are not occurring fast + enough. But consider how far each of you have progressed in the past + year, as you would compare to the previous years of your current life. + Believe me when I say momentum is growing and this truly was an + Exponential Event. You will see change occurring in exponential + proportions in each of your lives. + + Share love and laughter with those who criticize and mock. You are a + Light to show the way. As others see the changes in your life they will + at first curse you and condemn you. Did this not happen to Jesus? Just + stay true to your path. Be a Light Being and use your talents. All will + come to pass. Go forth and share this message with the Believers. It + will provide the much needed encouragement at this time. Go in peace! + + (I must explain that I started out to give an account of what + happened on 8-8-88 when "automatic writing" seemed to take over. I + clearly see that I will have many such messages to share. The Believers + will understand this completely!!) *** Jami Morgan, Starseed BBS + + -------- + + I have the pleasure of knowing an East Indian man named Pamjeet + Singh. While he is very humble about his knowledge of the esoteric, he + has shed light on the issue of inter-dimensional beings which I feel + will benefit us all. + + I was asking him what his perception is regarding the Transmissions - + - am I dealing with pure energy or are these really beings with names + and personalities. + + He asked, "Do fish recognize that human beings exist?" I would think + not. Pamjeet says fish are one dimensional beings. "Do dogs recognize + that humans exist?" I would say yes, they are aware of us. Pamjeet says + dogs are two dimensional beings. While they have some level of + awareness they can not discern concepts and ideas. Humans are third + dimensional beings. We recognize all lower life forms, can think and + reason and deal with abstract thought. But as humans are we aware of + other dimensions...higher dimensions? Some people are and have + displayed unusual psychic abilities. Some Eastern mystics through + meditation and thought control are so advanced they can materialize + objects and easily communicate with beings from other dimensions. + + Pamjeet asks, "If you see a mouse chasing a bug do you try to + intervene to save the bug? Do you try to communicate with the mouse?" + The answer is probably no. These higher dimensional beings may not be + focused in such a manner that they can or wish to attempt communication + with humans. Pamjeet says human enlightenment is not necessarily + significant to all higher beings. Death is not significant since all + elements return to the Cosmic Pool (the All That Is). + + However, in what we call the fourth dimension there are likely many + beings who do wish to communicate. For whatever reason they make take + an interest in humanity and wish to be in contact with the physical + realm. The Celestials who are in communication with Norma and myself + obviously do have an interest in the energy transformation of the + earth. I will attempt to clarify who I am in contact with and what is + their purpose for using us for these Transmissions. + + As Pamjeet says, for humans to think that we are the highest of life + forms in the universe, that's our obtuseness! + + *** Jami Morgan, Starseed Sysop + + -------- + + September 7, 1988 + + I address this question to the Celestials, or the Highest of Beings + in Love and Light. I have had the term Sonat Kamara on my mind. What + does this mean and why did this term come to me? + + Thank you for your contact with us. Kamaras, like Celestials, are + another type of fourth dimensional beings. While we, as Celestials, + watch over the Northern Hemisphere, and the Southwest United States in + particular, the Kamaras usually make contact with earth inhabitants in + the orient and East India area But you are perceived as a multi- + cultural earth being with deep seated interest in the eastern belief + systems. Therefore Sonat Kamara is telepathically transmitting + information to you. Sonat Kamara is one of the highest of the Kamaras. + You will benefit greatly from the information being shared. Please + remember that all interdimensional beings are actually entities + comprised of many soul-components, so actually we are multidimensional + as well as interdimensional beings. + + We, the Celestials, will be transmitting technical information to you + regarding use of vibrational levels, particle movement and information + about galactic energy waves. The Kamaras will work with you on + spiritual matters. Your contact with the Kamaras has occurred because + of your intense interest in reincarnation and past life experiences. + You may attempt to contact Sonat Kamara now for insights if you wish. + We are all willing to help at any time. Thank you for this contact. + + I now wish to receive information from Sonat Kamara. Again, I ask + this in Love and Light and wish to avoid any negative vibrations. + + Blessings. You have felt our presence. We are guiding you in your + search for information on past lives and past civilizations of the + earth. We brought you in contact with Paramjeet Singh for this purpose. + Due to the cultural differences of the east and west it is difficult to + communicate some of the concepts you are in need of. Paramjeet is a + very old soul in your terms as he has experienced many lifetimes. He + can convey much of the information you desire. + + We watched with delight as you visited the remains of past + civilizations in your area. The Mayans, earth manifestations of + Kamaras, are the root of all your so called Indian peoples....both East + Indian and American Indian. Your search and study of these + civilizations will help reveal how the materialization (dense particle + accumulation) occurred and how it can now be lifted during the Earth + transition. Certain groups of East Indians successfully avoided some of + the material cloaking. Paramjeet can be of further help in + understanding those concepts. + + Be comforted to know that you are not alone in your search for + answers. Many other earth inhabitants "choose" to be here now for + similar research to help with the forthcoming transition. It is helpful + for you to read the works of others who have spent more time studying + these same matters. You will "know" when your insights are correct and + continue to follow your intuition as we are guiding you to the correct + path. Go in peace. + + As this latter transmission came through I could tell that some of + the earlier transmissions were from the Kamaras. I can feel a + difference in the Celestial communication and in the Kamaras. The + Kamaras definitely feel more spiritual, whereas the Celestials feel + more detached and technical. I have much more trouble attempting to + gain information from the technical advisors of the Celestials. I feel + another attempt at a transmission now; + + Greetings. We are indeed experiencing difficulties in communicating + our concepts to you. Although you need this information to complete + your mission, you may have to gain some of this from the writings of + other earth beings. You have a high intuitive level which is perfect + for dealing with Kamaras, but you have a great deal of trouble with + physics. You need this background before we can further communicate + particle structure and vibrational light wave information. We will + continue to offer subtle help so you can make use of these important + frequencies. We feel your current study of Mayan technology will be of + great help in understanding this principles. Thank you for the + opportunity to communicate. + + -------- + + Transmission of September 15, 1988 + + Please tell your friends that since we are of the fourth dimension, + more accurately, interdimensional, communication with us is not as they + perceive. What you experienced now, the feeling of information, is + different than your normal modes of transmitting information. You are + acting as a receiver of our vibrational frequencies. It is your job to + interpret what you "feel" into words to share with your fellow earth + beings. + + Your perception of All being One (All That Is) is exactly correct. We + are a part of the One, just as you are and your earth friends -- both + Believers and non-believers are still part of the one. So it really + doesn't matter if they deny this fact at this time. Sooner or later all + beings come back to the Prime Energy Source (the All). + + The Source is also called the Light. To be In the Light, is to open + your mind to the Universal Consciousness. To feel the Light and have + communion with it is what some call a religious experience. + + + You are now beginning to understand this. As you, and others, begin + to perceive the true meaning of All being One, then you may realize + that to communicate with us is to communicate with your own higher + mind. So there is really no difference. We are reveling in delight with + your perceptions. This is just the beginning of your real journey. As + you improve your ability to perceive the other dimensions and more + clearly understand the nature of All That Is, you will find more + answers to what you seek. + + + What is meant by in the Dark? It is literally just the opposite of + being in the Light. (a little earth humor for us) Anyone can be in the + Light...feel the Light...experience the Light. It simply requires a + sincere effort to understand these concepts. You still do not + understand how the Sun is radiating the necessary energy to your cells, + the cells of all living things on the Earth, to other star systems and + how it all inter-relates. These most critical rays of energy are + affecting you. This energy affects every living thing whether it + believes or not. Just like our messenger Jose Arguelles is telling you, + the DNA in your body is communicating at a cellular level. The same + principle is most definitely at work on a galactic level. This is + because All is One and the principles are the same on that level. You + had this insight as a very small child when you thought of the planets + being like molecules revolving around a nucleus. Now you are relearning + what you really knew then. + + It really does not matter what path you take to gain the insight you + need. For you it is good to understand all of these principles. Like + Jose, you will need to share this understanding with others. Continue + to research physics and we assure you, more insights and revelations + will be felt! Enjoy your learning and go in peace. + + -------- + + September 24, 1988 9:00 pm + + In the name of the Great Spirit, Father Sky, Mother Earth and the + Purest of all energies, I have offered Copal incense in your honor and + have called upon the four directions for assistance and guidance. I + have protected myself with a shield of pure white light. I now call + upon the Source to send a guiding angel or guide of the purest and + highest light to provide answers and guidance for your Children of + Light here in New Mexico. + + Please help us understand what happened on the night of Equinox. + + Greetings Blessed One. I, Sonat Kamara, am watching over you and your + earth friends. All the Kamaras are here to help, so please share with + your friends that they should always do as you have this evening and + call upon the Source to send a guide when you are need of assistance. + First, may I say, that your intuition serves you well. You now know + that you must seek protection and be careful when calling upon various + entities. You, your channel Norma and all of your friends must be + careful with who you call upon for assistance. Norma is an innocent and + vulnerable soul, just as all of you. You are correct that there is no + evil, but you do create your reality and you do manifest what you + perceive and give form to those thoughts. At this very moment you are + manifesting fear. There is only fear and love. If you focus on fear you + are in the dark. When you focus on love you are in the Light. Each of + you must now analyze your fears. Why do you allow fear to guide you. + You must meditate and turn to your own connection with the Source and + bring love to you. As you prepare to enter your light bodies and begin + to remove the material cloak you wear, you are becoming more + susceptible to thought forms and surrounding energies. On the night of + the Equinox, you allowed fear to surround you. Each of you present at + your gathering harbored some deep fear and gave material form to it. + This was indeed a lesson. A lesson on removing fear from your life. You + can better serve the Light through personal, inward meditation and + connecting with the Source of All. For you, Jami, you have found your + connection to your higher consciousness and the Source through the + meditation you call journeying. Quiet your thoughts, think of the + Light, focus on love, protect yourself with pure white light energy and + connect with the Source for answers and guidance. Your insight + regarding the Third Eye is correct. You are now experiencing an opening + of the highest chakra. It is violet, seventh ray energy that is + flooding your perception. This energy is of the highest and purest + vibrational quality. Please tell Norma, with love and light, that your + planet is moving more rapidly than she suspects. This current period of + time/space that your planet is experiencing is the Rapture, as your + Christians call it. The Rapture is actually the influx of seventh ray, + pure energy. + + The purification process of the planet is accelerated because the sea + creatures are at risk. If the dolphins and whales die, your planet will + become a cold orb like Mars. We cannot allow this to happen again. + These sea creatures are the last of the Kamaras to remain in physical + form on your planet. They are highly advanced, more so than your human + population. The humans must learn to stop toxifying your planet. You + are making the earth uninhabitable. The force of nature, the Universal + Force, will take control soon and stop this process. Those of you who + are prepared and are true beings of love and light, will be given an + opportunity to leave the earth plane during the upheaval. You may then + return to heal the planet. But be assured, we will protect the Kamaras, + for they carry the knowledge of how to exist in harmony with nature. + + There are other planets in the Universe capable of sustaining living + forms. The Earth is a beautiful planet and the only planet in your + solar system which can sustain life. But there are so many solar + systems and many other beautiful planets. The Universe is alive and + dancing with energy. The drama on the planet earth is just one such + drama. Other lessons are being learned in other galaxies. Yours has the + most physical density and the most intricate particle matter, however, + and we do take this experiment seriously. Many eyes are on your earth + drama to determine if this type of physical matter can sustain itself + it. It does not appear possible. That is why there is an effort to + return to a more spiritual, etherical life form. The change in your + energy field is a reduction in the gravitational force. This + "lightening" as you perceive it, is correct. You will see more + traumatic changes in the physical structure of the planet. This will + play out as severe weather, and shifts in the outer crust of the + planet. This will continue to progress, but when the upheaval becomes + too violet for earth inhabitants, we will remove the true Children of + Light. I must tell you some will perish...that is their physical bodies + will perish but their souls, of course will come back to the Source, + and they will have the choice whether to incarnate on the Earth or + another planet or another dimension. This is simply the continuous + cycle of Kamaras. Reincarnation....the birth cycle. + + This information is shared so you can continue to share with the + Children of Light. They know this. They chose to experience this + process. It's simply that when living in this dense material form you + lose contact with the Source and you forget to turn to your higher self + for information and guidance. This is not a mysterious process. We find + humor in the ways you react to this process. When you are here in our + dimension, you too have laughed with us about this. That is what + laughter is. Please do not become so trapped in your material form. + Quiet those earth troubles that are so distracting and just turn to + your higher self and the Source to remember your mission. + + It's been delightful to have this contact with you this evening. + There is quite a display in your sky at this time. Go enjoy it. The + Earth drama will be taken care of. Have no fear. Spread love and light. + Remember when you smile, we are smiling with you. Remind your Christian + friends to "make a joyous noise unto the Lord". Go forth in the Light. + + -------- + + Yes, you are indeed in contact with Monka of the Ashtar Command, and + yes we are monitoring your area with a fleet of special intergalactic + craft. Our primary station appears to you as a bright star over your + eastern mountain range. I was indeed in contact with you on the evening + of August 11, 1988. + + You will continue to receive subtle transmissions from our command + post and you may contact us, as you have, when you are in need of + assistance. + + In regard to your specific concern about negative energy and low + level vibrations, the conversion of your planet's energy field is a + slow process and it will take time to complete. The date of 2011 is + very accurate in terms of a time table for a total transition to the + Light. You are already aware of the changes you are feeling and + experiencing. You could not have conducted this type of communication + even one year ago. Now you find it fairly easy to receive our + transmissions. You are not yet atuned to our vibrational fields, but + this will come with time and conditioning. You must quiet your mind and + concentrate on sensing the vibrations. Once you have developed an + awareness of these vibrational fields, then you will learn this type of + communication. Your transmissions at that time will be much more + accurate and you will truly understand our purpose and your purpose and + what you must share. + + For now, what you are doing is fine. You are beginning to open the + channels of communication. You are aware of our presence and you are + able to telepathically "tune in" to our messages. Some of the message + is lost in translation but this is due to the extreme variance between + our mode of communication and yours. + + Once you successfully acknowledge our vibratory level, then your + awareness will develop. Your efforts could be best utilized by learning + to recognize vibrational patterns and colors. Quite meditation or what + you call "journeying" is ideal for this type of learning. + + We have much to communicate but we must establish improved methods of + transmission. + + Tell your friend who asks why 8-8-88 is significant that he is right. + The calendar you use to keep track of time is only a tool. The cosmic + calendar is what dictates the events that are to come. But how would we + convey these events without using your measurements of time? + + Those of you in the United States and especially in the Southwest + have a unique role to play in this cosmic drama that is now unfolding. + You have been separated from your connection with the Universal Force. + Those in other countries and nations have entirely different + circumstances. + + Those in the eastern hemisphere who have always maintained a Oneness + with nature and the All That Is, have a different role to play. + Communication with the interdimensional is not unusual for them. Those + of you in countries where you have denied your connectedness are the + ones who will have the greatest difficulty understanding how to use the + seventh ray energy that is now flooding your planet. + + I will close for now by saying to you that many difficult times are + still ahead for the Earth. This energy is polarizing people, groups and + nations. As you struggle with egos, separation from the Source and the + demands of your material existence there will be strife and sorrow. + When you finally recognize your connectedness to the Source of the All, + operate in your Light Body, gain control over physical matter, loosen + the bonds of gravity on your planet and begin to collectively free + yourselves of the weight of your dense particles, then you will truly + be free. This cannot totally happen until a majority of the inhabitants + of the planet Earth perceive the nature of matter. Your physics, + science and studies of particle matter will assist in the transition. + + Still your thoughts and experience vibrational energy and particle + matter in quiet meditation. Interdimensional travel is available to + each of you. Go in peace. Share Love and Light. + + -------- + + October 19, 1988 + + I call upon the Source of All for strength. I request to connect with + the Source and receive guidance regarding my personalturmoil and + confusion. + + Dearest One. You are connected to the Source at all times. You need + only to turn inward and listen to your inner voice for guidance. Your + soul is growing weary of struggling with Earth complications. But you + are not yet ready to return to a light body. You need your physical + body to complete the mission you set out to accomplish on the Earth + plane. You do need a period of rest and reflection. You must quiet your + thoughts and spend time understanding your connection to the Source and + Light. It seems wise at this time to pursue your calling to retreat and + reflect. You have no particular need for the material effects that are + causing such suffering for you. You are expending most of your energy + to retain these material possessions. If you do not need these + possessions, then lighten your load and move toward a more simple + existence. For many years now you have been struggling with a calling + to nature. You must root and ground yourself with the Mother Earth and + not fight against her and this calling. You will not be at peace until + you come to terms with your mission. If the only possession you require + is your electronic computer machine, then look for a way to simplify + your life and retain that part of it. Assess what you need and what you + don't need and find a way of living that is compatible with your needs. + Speak with your Buddhist friends and seek their assistance. Remove fear + from your life so you can move forward in Light and Love. You are + creating this conflict and confusing yourself. Each soul and earth + being must find their own path. You have no goal of attaining high + public rank. Your mission has to do with the changes now affecting the + earth and helping other earth beings to understand these changes. You + wish to write messages and share this information in writing and + electronically. Then consider how can you best attain this goal and + what is the correct and true path for you. You have these answers + within your heart and soul. You received your calling in 1976 and you + continue to struggle with your path. You struggle out of fear. You fear + that you will fail but what you must realize is that not to pursue your + path is the true failure. When you return to the Source to review your + life mission and see that you have failed then you will return once + again to the earth plane to complete your mission. But what we must + tell you now is that the time is at hand. The Earth is changing now and + there are few liftimes left to complete the mission. Your contributions + may help save the planet and realize a true Rapture on Earth. But if + you turn away in fear and do not attempt your mission, then you will + never realize your goal. We tell you with true Love that your planet is + ripe for this transformation. Many souls are awakening and need only to + band together and help one another accomplish this wonderous miracle. + You have visualized this potential. You have seen what light bodies, + celestials and galactic powers can accomplish. Your beautiful planet + could become a true Garden of Eden for the galaxy. + + There is no limit to the potential. But for this to happen many + souls must work in Earth Transformation harmony to remove the dense + material particles and free your planet of the intense gravity that + currently exists. This is only a vision now in the hearts and minds of + you and your fellow Star Children and Lightworkers. You must go forward + and gather together all the Children of Light and work together on your + common vision. You can then make this wonderous vision a reality for + your planet. + + + So put your goal to the forefront and make the adjustments in your + life that are necessary to accomplish this mission. Your social and + personal needs will be fulfilled if you pursue this mission. + + (some personal information deleted) + + In your hearts heart you know of your goal and purpose. You were + reminded of this mission at your father's passing in 1976. Many earth + years have passed now and you feel the need to move forward now with + your mission. We told you correctly that your mission has begun but + only you can make the decision to complete it. You have the tools and + the knowledge to move forward now. + + Let us assure you your meetings with Norma the Messenger, Trece the + Visionary, Tom the Astrologer, Paramjeet the Prophet, Tom the Buddhist, + and the many technicans and friends you have encountered were meant to + be. This is the plan, the mission set forth when you created this + lifetime. You have control of your own destiny. + You may complete your life plan and accomplish your goals, but to + do so the first step is to remove fear and go forward in the Light. + + Remember your connection to the Source, your inner voice and + communion with us, your guides, and you will have much strength to + assist you. Ground yourself with this Love and Light and you will find + much happiness on this beautiful earth plane. Go in peace and + love....we are with you always. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2731.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2731.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d360dbea --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2731.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,474 @@ +SUBJECT: JOHN LEAR STATEMENT 12/29/87 FILE: UFO2731 + + + + + + John Lear has requested that the following file be published on + ParaNet. It is our philosophy to encourage debate on paranormal issues, + no matter how controversial, and we welcome his input. The information + contained in this file has not been verified by ParaNet, nor do the + opinions expressed herein necessarily reflect those of the + Administrator or other ParaNet staff members. We can state, however, + that John is who he says he is, and has numerous contacts in sensitive + positions that could conceivably allow him access to information of + this type. + ------------------------- + + Statement Released By: + + John Lear + + December 29, 1987 + + + John Lear, a captain for a major US Airline has flown over 160 + different types of aircraft in over 50 different countries. He holds + 17 world speed record in the Lear Jet and is the only pilot ever to + hold every airline certificate issued by the Federal Aviation + Administration. Mr. Lear has flown missions worldwide for the CIA and + other government agencies. A former Nevada State Senator candidate, + he is the son of William P. Lear, designer of the Lear Jet executive + airplane, the 8-track stereo, and founder of Lear Siegler Corporation. + Lear became interested in the subject of UFO's 13 months ago after + talking with United States Air Force Personnel who had witnessed a UFO + landing at Bentwaters AFB, near London, England, and three small aliens + walking up to the Wing Commander. + + Note to the Press: + + The government of the United States continues to rely on your personal + and professional gullibility to suppress the information contained + herein. Your cooperation over the past 40 years has exceeded our + wildest expectations and we salute you. + + "The sun does not revolve around the Earth" + "The United States Government has been in business + with little gray extraterrestrials for about 20 years" + + The first truth stated here got Giordano Bruno burned at the stake in + AD 1600 for daring to propose that it was real. The second truth has + gotten far more people killed trying to state it publicly than will + ever be known. + + But the truth must be told. The fact that the Earth revolves around + the sun was successfully suppressed by the church for over 200 years. + It eventually cause a major upheaval in the church, government, and + thought. A realignment of social and traditional values. That was in + the 1800's. + + Now, about 400 years after the first truth was pronounced we must again + face the shocking facts. The "horrible truth" the government has been + hiding from us over 40 years. Unfortunately, the "horrible truth" is + far more horrible than the government ever imagined. + + In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the + aliens. And here is how it happened. But before I begin, I'd like to + offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They had + the best of intentions. + + Germany may have recovered a flying saucer as early as 1939. General + James H. Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to inspect a flying saucer + that had crashed there in Spitzbergen. + + The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons: They were + indeed ugly little creatures, shaped like praying mantises and who were + more advanced than us by perhaps a billion years. Of the original + group that were the first to learn the "horrible truth", several + committed suicide, the most prominent of which was General James V. + Forrestal who jumped to his death from a 16th story hospital window. + General Forrestal's medical records are sealed to this day. + + President Truman quickly put a lid on the secret and turned the screws + so tight that the general public still thinks that flying saucers are a + joke. Have I ever got a surprise for them. + + In 1947, President Truman established a group of 12 of the top military + scientific personnel of their time. They were known as MJ-12. + Although the group exists today, none of the original members are still + alive. The last one to die was Gordon Gray, former Secretary of the + Army, in 1984. As each member passed away, the group itself appointed + a new member to fill the position. There is some speculation that the + group known as MJ-12 expanded to at least several more members. + + There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940's, one in + Roswell, New Mexico, one in Aztec, New Mexico, and one near Laredo, + Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border. + + Consider, if you will, the position of the United States Government at + that time. They proudly thought of themselves as the most powerful + nation on Earth, having recently produced the atomic bomb, and + achievement so stupendous, it would take Russia 4 years to catch up, + and only with the help of traitors to Democracy. They had built a jet + aircraft that had exceeded the speed of sound in flight. They had + built jet bombers with intercontinental range that could carry weapons + of enormous destruction. The post war era, and the future seemed + bright. Now imagine what it was like for those same leaders, all of + whom had witnessed the panic of Orson Wells' radio broadcast, "The War + of the Worlds", in 1938. Thousands of Americans panicked at a + realistically presented invasion of Earth by beings from another + planet. Imagine their horror as they actually viewed the dead bodies of + these frightening looking little creatures with enormous eyes, + reptilian skin and claw like fingers. Imagine their shock as they + attempted to determine how these strange "saucers" were powered and + could discover no part even remotely similar to components they were + familiar with: no cylinders or pistons, no vacuum tubes or turbines or + hydraulic actuators. It is only when you fully understand the + overwhelming helplessness the government was faced with in the late + 40's that you can comprehend their perceived need for a total, thorough + and sweeping cover up, to include the use of "deadly force". + + The cover-up was so successful that as late as 1985 a senior scientist + with the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, Dr. Al + Hibbs, would look at a video tape of an enormous flying saucer and + state the record, "I'm not going to assign anything to that (UFO) + phenomena without a lot more data". Dr. Hibbs was looking at the naked + emperor and saying, "He certainly looks naked, but that doesn't prove + he's naked." + + In July of 1952, a panicked government watched helplessly as squadron + of "flying saucers" flew over Washington, D.C., and buzzed the White + House, the Capitol Building, and the Pentagon. It took all the + imagination and intimidation the government could muster to force that + incident out of the memory of the public. + + Thousands of sightings occurred during the Korean war and several more + sauces were retrieved by the Air Force. Some were stored at Wright- + Patterson Air Force Base, some were stored at Air Force bases near the + location of the crash sight. + + One saucer was so enormous and the logistic problems in transportation + so enormous that it was buried at the crash sight and remains there + today. The stories are legendary on transporting crashed saucers over + long distances, moving only at night, purchasing complete farms, + slashing through forests, blocking major highways, sometimes driving 2 + and 3 lo-boys in tandem with and extraterrestrial load a hundred feet + in diameter. + + On April 30, 1964, the first communication between these aliens and the + U.S. Government took place at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. 3 + saucers landed at a prearranged area and a meeting was held between the + aliens and intelligence officers of the U.S. Government. + + During the period of 1969-1971, MJ-12 representing the U.S. Government + made a deal with these creatures, called EBE's (Extraterrestrial + Biological Entities, named by Detley Bronk, original MJ-12 member and + 6th President of Johns Hopkins University). The "deal" was that in + exchange for "technology" that they would provide to us, we agreed to + "ignore" the abductions that were going on and suppress information on + the cattle mutilations. The EBE's assured MJ-12 that the abductions + (usually lasting about 2 hours) were merely the ongoing monitoring of + developing civilizations. + + In fact, the purposes for the abductions turned out to be: + + (1) The insertion of a 3mm spherical device through + the nasal cavity of the abductee into the brain. + the device is used for the biological monitoring, + tracking, and control of the abductee. + + (2) Implementation of Posthypnotic Suggestion to carry + out a specific activity during a specific time period, + the actuation of which will occur within the next + 2 to 5 years. + + (3) Termination of some people so that they could function + as living sources for biological material and + substances. + + (4) Termination of individuals who represent a threat to + the continuation of their activity. + + (5) Effect genetic engineering experiments. + + (6) Impregnation of human females and early termination of + pregnancies to secure the crossbreed infant. + + The U.S. Government was not initially aware of the far reaching + consequences of their "deal". They were led to believe that the + abductions were essentially benign and since they figured the + abductions would probably go on anyway whether they agreed or not, they + merely insisted that a current list of abductees be submitted, on a + periodic basis, to MJ-12 and the National Security Council. Does this + sound incredible? An actual list of abductees sent to the National + Security Council? Read on, because I have news for you. + + The EBE's have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system is + atrophied and not functional. Some speculate that they were involved + in some type of accident or nuclear war, or possibly on the back side + of and evolutionary genetic curve. In order to sustain themselves they + use an enzyme or hormonal secretion obtained from the tissue that they + extract from humans and animals. (Note: Cows and Humans are genetically + similar. In the event of a national disaster, cow's blood can be used + by humans.) + + The secretions obtained are then mixed with hydrogen peroxide and + applied on the skin by spreading or dipping parts of their bodies in + the solution. The body absorbs the solution, then excretes the waste + back through the skin. The cattle mutilations that were prevalent + throughout the period from 1973 to 1983 and publicly noted through + newspaper and magazine stories and included a documentary produced by + Linda Howe for the Denver CBS affiliate KMGH-TV, were for the + collection of these tissues by the aliens. The mutilations included + genitals taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes, tongue, and + throat all surgically removed with extreme precision. In some cases + the incisions were made by cutting between the cells, a process we are + not yet capable of performing in the field. In many of the mutilations + there was no blood found at all in the carcass, yet there was no + vascular collapse of the internal organs. This has been also noted in + the human mutilations, one of the first of which was Sgt. Jonathan P. + Louette at the White Sands Missile Test Range in 1956, who was found + three days after an Air Force Major had witnessed his abduction by a + "disk shaped" object at 0300 while on a search for missile debris + downrange. His genitals had been removed, rectum cored out in a + surgically precise "plug" up to the colon, eyes removed and all blood + removed with, again, no vascular collapse. From some of the evidence + it is apparent that this surgery is accomplished, in most cases, while + the victim, animal or human, is still alive. + + The various parts of the body are taken to various underground + laboratories, one of which is known to be near the small New Mexico + town of Dulce. This jointly occupied (CIA-Alien) facility has been + described as enormous, with huge tiled walls that "go on forever". + Witnesses have reported huge vats filled with amber liquid with parts + of human bodies being stirred inside. + + After the initial agreement, Groom Lake, one of this nations most + secret test centers, was closed for a period of about a year, sometime + between about 1972 and 1974, and a huge underground facility was + constructed for and with the help of the EBE's. The "bargained for" + technology was set in place but could only be operated by the EBE's + themselves. Needless to say, the advanced technology could not be used + against the EBE's themselves, even if needed. + + During the period between 1979 and 1983 it became increasingly obvious + to MJ-12 that things were not going as planned. It became known that + many more people (in the thousands) were being abducted than were + listed on the official abduction lists. In addition it became obvious + that some, not all, but some of the nation's missing children had been + used for secretions and other parts required by the aliens. + + In 1979 there was an altercation of sorts at the Dulce laboratory. A + special armed forces unit was called in to try and free a number of our + people trapped in the facility, who had become aware of what was really + going on. According to one source, 66 of the soldiers were killed and + our people were not freed. + + By 1984, MJ-12 must have been in stark terror at the mistake they had + made in dealing with the EBE's. They had subtly promoted "Close + Encounters of the Third Kind" and "E.T." to get the public used to "odd + looking" aliens that were compassionate, benevolent and very much our + "space brothers". MJ-12 "sold" the EBE's to the public, and were now + faced with the fact that quite the opposite was true. In addition, a + plan was formulated in 1968 to make the public aware of the existence + of aliens on earth over the next 20 years to be culminated with several + documentaries to be released during 1985-1987 period of time. These + documentaries would explain the history and intentions of the EBE's. + The discovery of the "Grand Deception" put the entire plans, hopes and + dreams of MJ-12 into utter confusion and panic. + + Meeting at the "Country Club", a remote lodge with private golf course, + comfortable sleeping and working quarters, and its own private airstrip + built by and exclusively for the member of MJ-12, it was a factional + fight of what to do now. Part of MJ-12 wanted to confess the whole + scheme and shambles it had become to the public, beg their forgiveness + and ask for their support. The other part (and majority) of MJ-12 + argued that there was no way they could do that, that the situation was + untenable and there was no use in exciting the public with the + "horrible truth" and that the best plan was to continue the development + of a weapon that could be used against the EBE's under the guise of + "SDI", the Strategic Defense Initiative, which had nothing whatsoever + to do with a defense for inbound Russian nuclear missiles. As these + words are being written, Dr. Edward Teller, "father" of the H-Bomb is + personally in the test tunnels of the Nevada Test Site, driving his + workers and associates in the words of one, "like a man possessed". + And well he should, for Dr. Teller is a member of MJ-12 along with Dr. + Kissenger, Admiral Bobby Inman, and possibly Admiral Poindexter, to + name a few of the current members of MJ-12. + + Before the "Grand Deception" was discovered and according to a + meticulous plan of metered release of information to the public, + several documentaries and video tapes were made. William Moore, a + Burbank, California, based UFO researcher who wrote "The Roswell + Incident", a book published in 1980 that detailed the crash, recovery + and subsequent cover-up of a UFO with 4 alien bodies, has a video tape + of 2 newsmen interviewing a military officer associated with MJ-12. + This military officer answers questions relating to the history of MJ- + 12 and the cover-up, the recovery of a number of flying saucers and the + existence of a live alien (one of 3 living aliens captured and + designated, or named, EBE-1, EBE-2, and EBE-3, being held in a facility + designated as YY-II at Los Alamos, New Mexico. The only other facility + of this type, which is electromagnetically secure, is at Edwards Air + Force Base in Mojave, California). The officer names as previously + mentioned plus a few others: Harold Brown, Richard Helms, Gen. Vernon + Walters, JPL's Dr. Lew Allen and Dr. Theodore von Karman, to name a few + of the current and past members of MJ-12. + + The officer also relates the fact that the EBE's claim to have created + Christ. The EBE's have a type of recording device that has recorded + all of Earth's history and can display it in the form of a hologram. + This hologram can be filmed but because of the way holograms work does + not come out very clear on movie film or video tape. The crucifixion + of Christ on the Mount of Olives has allegedly been put on film to show + the public. The EBE's claim to have created Christ, which, in view of + the "Grand Deception", could be an effort to disrupt traditional values + for undetermined reasons. + + Another video tape allegedly in existence is an interview with an EBE. + Since EBE's communicate telepathically, and Air Force Colonel serves as + an interpreter. Just before the recent stock market correction in + October of 1987, several newsmen, including Bill Moore, had been + invited to Washington, D.C., to personally film the EBE in a similar + type interview, and distribute the film to the public. Apparently, + because of the correction in the market, it was felt the timing was not + propitious. In any case, it certainly seems like an odd method to + inform the public of extraterrestrials, but it would be in keeping with + the actions of a panicked organization who at this point in time + doesn't know which way to turn. + + Moore is also in possession of more Aquarius documents, a few pages of + which leaked out several years ago and detailed the supersecret NSA + project which had been denied by them until just recently. In a letter + to Senator John Glenn, NSA's Director of Policy, Julia B. Wetzel, + wrote, "Apparently there is or was an Air Force project with that name + (Aquarius) which dealt with UFO's. Coincidently, there is also an NSA + project by that name." NSA's project Aquarius deals specifically with + the "communications wit the aliens" (the EBE's). Within the Aquarius + program was project "Snowbird", a project to test-fly a recovered alien + aircraft at Groom Lake, Nevada. This project continues today at that + location. In the words of an individual who works at Groom Lake, "Our + people are much better at taking things apart than they are at putting + them back together." + + Moore, who claims he has a contact with MJ-12, feels that they have + been stringing him along, slipping him documents and providing him + leads, promising to go public with some of the information on + extraterrestrials by the end of 1987. + + Certain of Moore's statements lead one to believe that Moore himself is + a government agent working for MJ-12, not to be strung along, but + string along ever hopeful UFOlogists that the truth is just around the + corner. Consider: + + 1. Moore states emphatically that he is not a government + agent, although when Lee Graham (a Southern California + based UFOlogist) was investigated by DIS (Defense + Investigative Service) for possession of classified + documents received from Moore, Moore himself was not. + + 2. Moore states emphatically that the cattle mutilations + of 1973-1983 were a hoax by Linda Howe (producer of + "A Strange Harvest") to create publicity for herself. + He cites the book "Mute Evidence" as the bottom line of + the hoax. "Mute Evidence" was a government sponsored + book to explain the mutilations in conventional terms. + + 3. Moore states that the U.S.A.F. Academy physics book, + "Introductory Space Science", vol. II chapter 13, entitled + "Unidentified Flying Objects", which describes four of + the most commonly seen aliens (one of which is the EBE) + was written by Lt. Col. Edward R. Therkelson and Major + Donald B. Carpenter, Air Force personnel who did not + know what they were talking about and were merely siting + "crackpot" references. He, Moore, states that the book + was withdrawn to excise the chapter. + + If the government felt they were being forced to acknowledge the + existence of aliens on Earth because of the overwhelming evidence such + as the October and November sightings in Wytheville, Va., and recently + released books such as "Night Siege" (Hynek, J. Allen;Imbrogno, Phillip + J.;Pratt, Bob:Night Siege, Ballantine Books, Random House, New York), + and taking into consideration the "grand deception" and obviously + hostile intentions of the EBE's, it might be expedient for MJ-12 to + admit the EBE's but conceal the information on the mutilations and + abductions. If MJ-12 and Moore were in some kind of agreement then it + would be beneficial to Moore to tow the party line. For example, MJ-12 + would say..."here are some more genuine documents...but remember...no + talking about the mutilations or abductions". This would be beneficial + to Moore as it would supply the evidence to support his theory that + E.T.'s exist but deny the truths about the E.T.'s. However, if Moore + was indeed working for MJ-12, he would follow the party line + anyway...admitting the E.T.'s but pooh poohing the mutilations and + abductions. If working alone, Moore might not even be aware of the + "grand deception". + + Time will tell. It is possible that Moore will go ahead and release + the video interview with the military officer around the first of the + year, as he has promised. From MJ-12's point of view, the public would + be exposed to the information without really having to believe it + because Moore is essentially not as credible a source as, say, the + President of the United States. After a few months of digestion and + discussion, a more credible source could emerge with a statement that + yes in fact the interview was essentially factual. This scenario would + cushion somewhat the blow to the public. If, however, Moore does not + release the tape by, say, February 1 of 1988, but comes instead with a + story similar to: "MJ-12 has informed me that they are definitely + planning a release of all information by October of 88. I have seen + the plan and have seen the guarantee that this will happen, so I have + decided to withhold the release of my video tape at this time as it may + cause some problems with MJ-12's plans." This would in effect buy more + time for MJ-12 and time is what they desperately need. + + Now you ask, "Why haven't I heard about any of this?" Who do you think + you would hear it from? Dan Rather? Tom Brokaw? Sam Donaldson? + Wrong. These people just read the news, they don't find it. They have + ladies who call and interview witnesses and verify statements on + stories coming over the wire (either AP or UPI). It's not like Dan + Rather would go down to Wytheville, Virginia, and dig into why there + were 4 THOUSAND reported sightings in October and November of 1987. + Better that Tom Brokaw or someone else should risk their credibility on + this type of story. Tom Brokaw? Tom wants Sam Donaldson to risk his + credibility. No one, but no one, is going to risk their neck on such + outlandish ideas, regardless of how many people report sightings of 900 + foot objects running them off the road. In the case of the Wytheville + sightings, dozens of vans with NASA lettered on the side failed to + interest newsmen. And those that asked questions were informed that + NASA was doing a weather survey. + + Well then, you ask, what about our scientists? What about Carl Sagan? + Isaac Asimov? Arthur C. Clarke? Wouldn't they have known? If Carl + Sagan knows then he is committing a great fraud through the + solicitation of memberships in the Planetary Society, "to search for + extraterrestrial intelligence". Another charade into which the U.S. + Government dumps million of dollar every year is the radiotelescope in + Arecibo, Puerto Rico, operated by Cornell University with - guess who? + - Carl Sagan. Cornell is ostensibly searching for signals from Outer + Space, a sign maybe, that somebody is out there. It is hard to believe + that relatively intelligent astronomers like Sagan could be so + ignorant. What about Isaac Asimov? Surely the most prolific science + fiction writer of all time would have guessed by now that there must be + an enormous cover-up? Maybe, but if he knows he's not saying. Perhaps + he's afraid that Foundation and Empire will turn out to be inaccurate. + What about Arthur C. Clarke? Surely the most technically accurate of + Science Fiction writers with very close ties to NASA would have at + least a hint of what's really going on. Again, if so he isn't talking. + In a recent Science Fiction survey, Clarke estimates that contact with + extraterrestrial intelligent life would not occur before the 21st + Century. + + If the government won't tell us the truth and the major networks won't + even give it serious consideration, then what is the big picture, + anyway? Are the EBE's, having done a hundred thousand or more + abductions (possibly millions worldwide), built an untold number of + secret underground bases (Groom Lake, Nevada; Sunspot, Datil, Roswell, + and Pine Town, New Mexico, just to name a few) getting ready to return + to wherever they came from? Or, form the obvious preparations are we + to assume that they are getting ready for a big move? Or is the more + sinister and most probable situation that the invasion is essentially + complete and it is all over but the screaming? + + A well planned invasion of Earth for it's resources and benefits would + not begin with mass landings of ray-gun equipped aliens. A properly + planned and executed invasion by a civilization thousands and probably + hundreds of thousands of years in advance of us would most likely be + complete before even a handful of people, say 12?, realized what was + happening. No fuss, no muss. The best advice I can give you is this: + Next time you see a flying saucer and are awed by its obvious display + of technology and gorgeous lights of pure color - RUN LIKE HELL! + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2732.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2732.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..67a5d214 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2732.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,2087 @@ +SUBJECT: MESSENGERS OF TRANSCENDENCE FILE: UFO2732 + + + + + + +Filename: Panpsych.Edi +Type : Editorial +Author : Randall O. Littlejohn +Date : 06/19/93 +Desc. : Messengers of Transcendence + (Panpsychic Interactionism Integration) + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Response to this editorial is both welcomed encouraged by the author. + Please direct all responses via this echo to "Randall Littlejohn" + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + Copyright 1993 Randall O. Littlejohn + + + + MESSENGERS OF TRANSCENDENCE + + By + + Randall O. Littlejohn + + + + + The part always has a tendency to unite with its whole + in order to escape from its imperfections. + + - Leonardo Da Vinci + + + We must assume our existence as broadly as we in any + way can; everything, even the unheard-of, must be + possible in it. This is at bottom the only courage that + is demanded of us: to have courage for the most + strange, the most inexplicable. + + - Rainer Maria Rilke + + + +Research suggests that abductions (in the current ufological sense) may +have begun as early as the late nineteenth century.1 + +A controversial analysis of the data from three national surveys +conducted by the Roper Organization in 1991 suggest that one out of +every 50 adult Americans may have had an abduction experience.2 + +In the same report, 5% of the sample population reported that they +remember UFO imagery in their dreams. + +According to the Fund for UFO Research, there are more than 1,000 +abduction cases now reported, with more coming in all the time.3 + +The Mutual UFO Network is sponsoring an on-going program of data-basing +new abduction reports for future statistical analysis. + +Regardless of the exact numbers, all indicators point to an internally +consistent experience that is occurring world-wide, with ever +increasing frequency of incidence. + +Abductees are often deeply traumatized by their experiences. Lives are +changed forever. Political and social beliefs are reversed, or at least +altered. Abductions and all UFO phenomena challenge our notions of +reality and truth. + +In this article I will take an interdisciplinary approach to the +subject of UFO and related phenomena and argue that only by stretching +the boundaries of traditional scientific inquiry will we be able to +make headway in our understanding of these experiences. + +I will build three hypotheses. Together, they support the thesis that +at least part of UFO and related phenomena may be a creation of +humankind, and at the same time very real (tangible) events. + +The first hypothesis contends that UFO phenomena, culminating in the +abduction experience, may be a product of latent metanormal4 abilities +inherent to homo sapiens. While latent in most individuals, the stress +of the combined anxieties of our time may be activating these abilities +on a collective, if unconscious, level with strength enough to manifest +simi- real events. + +The second hypothesis argues that the abduction experience can be +analyzed as an allegorical narrative where each stage of the experience +(as developed by David M. Jacobs, Ph.D. in Secret Life5) is a metaphor +for a specific collective anxiety. + +The third hypothesis suggests that hypothesis one and hypothesis two +are informed by an emerging world-culture which represents an +evolutional leap in consciousness. + + + *** + + +Among ufologists and abduction researchers, explanations have generally +fallen into psychosocial (or cultural) and literalist extraterrestrial +categories. UFO and related phenomena play havoc with this traditional +dualality. + +Psychosocial hypotheses, at least in the Western materialist sense, are +seriously flawed. Unless we are willing to extend our notions of the +powers of the psyche to include 1.) physical traces appearing on +abductees, such as cuts and bruises, 2.)hundreds of highly elaborate +and traumatic experiences similar to one another in minute detail among +individuals who have not communicated with one another, and 3.) all of +the physical phenomena associated with the UFOs themselves, such +explanations are clearly inadequate. There are often explanations for +one or to facets of a UFO related occurrence. Usually, no explanations +take into account all aspects of a single complex event such as an +abduction experience. + +At the same time a literalist extraterrestrial hypothesis must account +for 1.) the relative paucity of solid physical information, 2.) the +high level of apparent absurdity that is characteristic of these +experiences and 3.) the seemingly insurmountable problems related to +accounting for the origins, culture and motive the aliens themselves +within the framework of scientific inquiry. + +The Western mind is not well suited to dealing with phenomena that +straddle traditional boundaries. The orientation of Western culture and +consciousness has been dominated by materialism, rationalism and the +scientific method, that is, toward reductionism and analysis rather +than synthesis. Thus, our age is one of ever-increasing specialization. +One finds evidence of this in modern scholarship and in science. Such +experts tend generally to regard fields other than their own with +indifference or suspicion. Therefore, experts in a given field +typically have little acquaintance with knowledge produced outside +their own scholarly or scientific domain. Eclectic or interdisciplinary +research is often discouraged as being too speculative. + +History, knowledge and reality itself cannot be segmented and +compartmentalized according to more or less arbitrary pigeonholes. Any +responsible researcher must, like a detective, pursue whatever clues +come to hand, however seemingly improbable. One should not dismiss +material simply because it threatens to lead into alien territory. One +must be flexible, able to move freely between disparate disciplines. +One must be able to link data and make connections between people, +events, and phenomena widely divorced from each other. In short, one +must synthesize. Finally, it is not sufficient to confine oneself +exclusively to facts. One must discern the repercussions and +ramifications of facts. We must proceed with both prudence and +imagination and thus, adopt a posture supportive of intuitive leaps. + +Regarding UFO phenomena, noted UFO researcher Dr. Jacques Vallee +believes that "...we are dealing with a yet unrecognized level of +consciousness...(and)...that an understanding of the UFO phenomenon +would come only when we expanded our view of the physical universe +beyond the classic four-dimensional model of spacetime."6 Jung +speculated that UFOs are archetypal responses to "vital psychic need".7 + +As we regard UFO phenomena culminating in the abduction experience, we +need to embrace a wide range of inquiry: from modern abduction research +to the sacred traditions East and West; from scientific studies of +mystical cognition and other metanormal abilities, to modern religious +studies; from anthropological studies of shamanism to mythology and +evolution. + +The following array of information is necessarily complex. I offer the +following outline as a guide through material that may otherwise seem +convoluted. + +First we will take a brief tour of abduction history. I will argue that +this experience need not necessarily be taken at face value. We will +look at the complexities that confound traditional approaches to +solving this enigma. + +Next, we must gain a basic understanding of the field of metaphysics. +We will take a look at evidence for metanormal abilities in humankind, +and list the abilities relevant to hypothesis number one, above. There +is ample evidence to show that nothing is happening in the abduction +experience that humans are not able to manifest themselves.8 + +Hypotheses number two and three must have sociological frames of +reference. Therefore we will turn to the works of Carl Gustov Jung and +Joseph Campbell. + +Finally, I will demonstrate a allegorical analysis of the abduction +narrative, and suggest the relevance of this experience to our unique +place in history. + +In his Religio Medici, English essayist Thomas Browne characterized man +as "that great and true amphibian whose nature is disposed to live, not +only like other creatures in diverse elements, but in divided and +distinguished worlds."9 + +I believe it is possible that UFO and related phenomena calls our +attention to a new era - one in which, like amphibians, we are +maintaining access to our present reality as we venture into a world +that will subsume the old one. + +There is precedent for such a cultural process. Hegel suggested a +process which suggests both annihilation and preservation to describe +the frequent subsumption of cultural forms by their successors. In the +dialectic of history, he claimed, earlier kinds of human behavior and +consciousness have been "lifted up" to higher levels.10 Evidence for +such a process is all around us. The UFO enigma may provide a large +body of such evidence. A brief overview of applicable UFO research is +in order. + + *** + + + The Abduction Experience + +As far back as the 1960s, John A. Keel revealed his discovery that the +majority of all UFO witnesses had latent or active psychic abilities. +Other investigators around the world confirmed his research. Now it is +known that abduction experiencers also often subsequently experience +other paranormal phenomena. + +In 1966 John Fuller changed the UFO scene forever with his Interrupted +Journey, the now-familiar story of Barney and Betty Hill, who claimed +that aliens removed them from their automobile, gave them physical +examinations, and then released them. The psychiatrist who had used +hypnosis with the Hills to bring out the mainly forgotten story thought +the case was an example of shared dream. + +Researchers had collected a few more abduction cases in the 1970s, but +they were so seemingly different from one another that it was almost +impossible to decipher the facts. Virtually all abductees suffered from +a form of amnesia that prevented them from remembering exactly what had +happened during the abduction. The preferred technique for retrieving +these lost memories was hypnosis, but it was common knowledge that +memories collected in this manner were not reliable. + +At first, abductions appeared to be an isolated phenomenon that had +occurred to just a few people around the country. Now we know this is +not the case. + +Since the late 1970s Bud Hopkins had specialized in examining abduction +cases, and his first book, Missing Time, was published in 1981. In this +pioneering work, he investigated a small group of people who he thought +might have had abduction experiences. Using a psychologist to +administer hypnosis, Hopkins collected data much more systematically +than had been done before. New data came to light: lapses in time, +mysterious scars, bizarre physical examinations, and screen memories. +Hopkins theorized a possible generational link between parents who were +abductees and their children. During this time David M. Jacobs, Ph.D., +a history professor, began to do research into the abduction +phenomenon. As a historian, Jacobs was interested in trying to +establish an abduction narrative with a beginning, middle and end. So +far, the bits and pieces of information gleaned from the few cases +researched remained frustratingly disconnected. + +In 1987 Dr. Thomas E. Bullard published a massive study of 270 +published abduction cases. With careful analysis Jacobs was able to +show numerous structural similarities between the cases, but in his +words, "Most researchers still did not understand the implications of +the new data."11 + +Jacob's found that even though most of the abductees did not know each +other, they all told the same stories: they were abducted by strange- +looking beings, subjected to a variety of physical and mental +"procedures," and then returned to the site of abduction. Abductees +were powerless to control the event, and, when it was over, they nearly +always forgot most of it. These people were left with the feeling that +something had happened to them, but they were not sure exactly what it +was. + +The events that the abductees related seemed completely implausible. +Time after time they would describe apparently absurd situations, such +as being floated through a closed window at the hands of small +creatures. + +Nevertheless, Dr. Jacobs was intrigued by the convergence of minute +detail, the multiple abductions, and other witnesses. He began his own +hypnotic sessions, taking care (says he) to avoid the typical problems +with data retrieved by hypnotic regression. In 1992 he publish a book +containing the results of his work called Secret Life. Jacob's work +provides us with the most complete abduction narrative to date. Many +others continue with other large scale comparisons of data. + +Dr. Jacobs found patterns in his subjects" descriptions of their +experiences. These patterns consist of what he calls "primary," +"secondary," and "ancillary" experiences.12 Later, we will come back to +these designations. + +Whether or not UFO and related phenomena are real in the usual sense, +the people who have these experiences suffer real pain. They seemed to +suffer from a combination of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and the +after-effects of rape. Interestingly, however, these "experiencers", as +they have come to be called, are also sometimes profoundly moved, as +outlined above. This may be the key point. + +Abductions are not confined to the United States. British UFO +researcher Jenny Randles has catalogued many abductions in the United +Kingdom. The same material seems to be coming out of those accounts. +Evidence points towards world-wide phenomena.13 + +With certain exceptions, abductions can occur anywhere. They happen in +rural settings and in cities. Being with other people is no deterrent. + +According to Jacobs and others, and if we are to take abductions at +face value, the "aliens" want to use the ability humans have to +recreate themselves. They seem to want to achieve some kind of hybrid +species of being. They want knowledge of our mental and nonreporductive +physiological processes. They are curious about how humans function in +society. They don't seem interested in disclosing much information +about the technicalities of what they are doing. When they do offer is +often absurd by traditional measures. The "aliens" seem confident that +we are unable to stop them. + +By far the most common types of entities reported are the short +statured, and so-called "Greys." Also reported frequently are similar, +but somewhat taller Greys. The small beings are thin, slight, and +hominoid in appearance. Taller beings stand from two to six inches +above the small beings and also share the same gross physical +characteristics with humans. The taller beings seem to be in charge. + +Descriptions of the aliens" skin color varies but is usually reported +to be grey, hence the moniker. The skin color is uniform, without +darker and lighter spots or areas. According to Jacobs, it is reported +that alien skin is extremely smooth, without the pores, hair, freckles, +warts and other common elements found on human skin. + +Abductees are often vague about what these grey aliens wear, or even if +they are wearing anything at all. Sometimes the color of their skin and +the color of their clothes are reported to be exactly the same. Though +different descriptions exist, the overall impression is of nondescript, +tight-fitting, seamless outfits. + +Usually, their faces do not betray a readily detectable uniqueness that +might distinguish one from another. Nor do they seem to have any overt +sort of emotional characteristics that can be seen on their faces. +According to Jacobs, when abductees have had experiences for thirty or +forty years with presumably the same group of aliens, they report that +the aliens look the same during the last experience as they did during +the first. + +The heads of the creatures are, in human terms, disproportionately +large for their bodies. + +While hominoid, the alien face has many divergent characteristics. The +huge eyes are the single most striking feature. They are largest in the +center and taper off to a tip on the side of the head. They contain no +pupils, irises, or corneas. Abductees see black, usually opaque organs. +The majority of the reports indicate these beings have no more than a +slight raised bump where a human nose would be, but no nostrils or +openings. According to Jacobs, the aliens" slit-like mouth does not +seem to have teeth, tongue, or saliva. The entities do not use their +mouths for communication. These creatures do not appear to have a jaw +or jaw hinge below where the ears would be. Aliens sometimes may have a +small raised feature where human ears would be, but without an opening. + +The head is attached to an extremely narrow, short, tubelike neck that +seems too thin to support the head's weight. The head does not fit onto +the neck as human heads would. The arrangement reminded one of Jacob's +abductees of "a pumpkin on a stick." + +The entities feature long, thin arms with no apparent musculature or +boniness. The arms are apparently the same diameter from the shoulder +to where the hands join, without visible wrists. + +The alien's short, thin legs go straight down with no sense of a thigh, +calf, or ankles. They blend smoothly with the feet. Little is known +about the feet, but toes are not usually noticed. + +In short, except for the fetal-like overall stature and the huge, black +eyes, these beings give an impression of something like a mannequin. My +point is, they can otherwise be seen as the perfect "generic hominid," +right down to the gray color. One would almost expect to find a bar- +code somewhere on each model. + +These three general characteristics - large, opaque-black eyes, overall +fetal-like stature, and generic appearance, may each have a symbolic +meaning. These meanings will be dealt with below. + + + *** + + +Not everyone agrees that the abduction experience should be taken at +face value. In the words of Jacques Vallee, stories of alien +crossbreeding are so "scientifically ludicrous that (they do) not even +deserve to be refuted...It reveals a dramatic lack of information about +the current state of the art in genetic engineering."14 + +Even with our apparently "primitive" knowledge of medicine by +comparison, humans could use simpler procedures that would yield more +accurate results without leaving scars. As Vallee notes, "Any doctor +today can draw one cubic centimeter of blood without leaving a scar or +mark. From the analysis we could determine if the patient used to have +a Siamese cat as a pet when he was six years old! Molecular biology, a +science in its infancy, is already capable of providing incredible +amounts of information from minute amounts of human cells. In vitro +fertilization has reached a level such that the so-called genetic +experiments allegedly performed in UFOs seem ludicrous and grotesque. +The ufonauts should go back to medical school."15 + +In addition one might ask, why hasn't their data-gathering become more +sophisticated over the decades? As far as we can tell it hasn't changed +since Betty and Barney Hill were abducted in 1961. + +And finally, even humans can erase a subject's memory beyond any chance +that a hypnotist could retrieve any information at all about the event. +Yet, even an amateur hypnotist can re- cover previously locked-away +memories of abductions. + +Nevertheless, these "aliens" demonstrate that they actually have a +highly detailed knowledge of human psychology, physiology and anatomy. +Abductee reports show that the aliens can completely control the human +nervous system. For instance, abductees are routinely paralyzed and +placed in suspended animation. The mere touch of an alien hand can +block a person's perception of pain. There are reports of instant +healings, altered memory, and distortion of an abductee's sense of +time. + +Some conclude that very real beings are staging simulated operations, +very much in the manner of gorilla theatre. Others decide that +abductions are complete fantasies drawn from the collective +unconscious, perhaps instigated by some metaphysical trigger. In a +recent article16 Carl Sagan would have us believe that all abductees +are hallucinating. None of these theories alone are completely +satisfactory. + +Some researchers, including Vallee, have noted the resemblance between +UFO encounters and the initiation rituals of secret societies. It is +true that a typical initiation ritual matches perfectly with the stages +of an abduction experience as described by Jacobs and others. We will +return to this theme below. + +The apparent absurdity of UFO and related experience is another factor +to be dealt with. The phenomenon often contradicts itself. Some of the +principles demonstrated, some of the information conveyed seem true; +some are apparently false. In attempting to determine which material is +true one is frustrated by a kind of "absurd logic." + +There is a persuasive argument that absurdity is designed into UFO +experiences in order to permit thought transference while the mind is +confused.17 Remembering that the abduction experience seems to have +arrived at a grand, world-wide scope, one might wonder, could this +confusion technique deliberately be used to change the consciousness of +humankind on a major scale? + +If one were to strive to convey a truth that lies just beyond the +understanding of ones audience, one must construct apparent +contradictions in terms of ordinary meaning. In striving to make sense +of the contradictions, one's understanding is challenged. If one +embellishes the process by constructing a complicated narrative that, +for instance, enigmatically mingles both elements of Newtonian- +Cartesianism realism with apparent absurdity, and in this way draws the +audience into a search for a deeper meaning, this is allegory. + +Allegory has long been used as a tool through which authors have side- +stepped the Church, State, even the intelligentsia, to plant deep +within societies far-reaching doubts concerning basic philosophical +tenets. Information issued forth this way has a profound effect on the +collective consciousness. Like allegory, UFO experiences are +compelling, yet also sufficiently absurd to be formally "unbelievable". +Events structured in this way cannot avoid striking deep within the +psyche, while keeping rationalists at a distance. + +Vallee suggests that human belief is being controlled and conditioned +by these alien conspirators.18 If the hypothesis is true, these +manifestations could be "not unlike a thermostat in a house."19 UFOs +may serve to stabilize the relationship between humankind's +consciousness and the evolving complexities of the world we try to +understand. + +Vallee pointed out that it is interesting to observe that the pattern +of UFO flaps (periods of intense UFO activity) has the same general +structure as that of a schedule of reinforcement, even after accounting +for the affect of media exaggerations on these patterns. The best +schedule of reinforcement is one that combines periodicity with +unpredictability. Learning is then slow but continuous. It leads to the +highest level of adaptation. And it is irreversible.20 + +There is an observable change in our culture. Many have noted the +increasing willingness to believe in extraterrestrial life. Television +programming includes more and more shows about UFOs and abductions. +More feature length films are being made about the issue, such as the +recent Fire in the Sky, based on the Travis Walton abduction. Attitudes +have changed among scientists too. There is the renewed SETI program, +for example. Psychologists are beginning to take the abduction +experience seriously. Are these signs of a shift in our collective +mythological structure? Is the human learning curve bending toward a +new cosmic point of view? Perhaps when irreversible learning is +achieved, the UFO phenomenon will go away. Or, perhaps we will witness +further, and more straight forward manifestations. The effects could be +far reaching, for like evolution itself, these learning curves may be +measured in terms of centuries. + +If UFOs are acting at the mythic and spiritual level, it will be next +to impossible to make much headway with a strictly empirical approach. +Spirituality and mythology rule at a level of our social reality over +which normal intellectual pursuits have little real power. + +Modern science maintains that the two major approaches to inquiry, +which might be termed technological and psychological, must be +carefully separated. At the same time, the concept of "spirit" has been +set aside for those of a somewhat naive mentality. The UFO phenomenon +is a direct affront to these artificial separations. + +No theory of UFOs can be complete unless it addresses the need to +integrate somehow abduction narratives based on alien technology into a +meaningful social framework. + +No theory of UFOs can be complete if it does not account for the +reported metaphysical effects produced during these experiences. +Effects such as objects that can shape-shift, disappear and re-appear +seemingly at will, or move in a way that defies the laws of physics as +we currently know them. Effects such as apparent telepathic +communication with ufonaughts, and abducting greys who walk through +walls and spirit away their victims through closed windows. + +Obviously, the evidence goes beyond the notion that these are simply +technological vehicles produced by advanced races on another planet, at +least by our current notions of technological. And we can not afford to +ignore the social impact of UFO and related phenomena. + +Only an interdisciplinary approach could account for the physical +effects, for the impact on society, for the appearance of the +occupants, and for the seemingly absurd, dream-like elements of alien +behavior. + + *** + + + The Case for Uncommon Human Capacities + +Metanormal functioning is no longer only a topic of tabloid journalism, +so-called New Age revelers, and quaint parlor room gatherings of +neighborhood spiritualists. Though many scientists and academic +philosophers still argue that paranormal events do not occur, there now +exists considerable evidence for such events provided by competent +researchers. Experimental data produced by parapsychologists have been +presented in several credible journals for more than 50 years.21 + +If we look closely at the evidence for metanormal abilities in +humankind, we will find that nothing is going on in UFO and related +phenomena that humankind has not demonstrated as one of its own +abilities. No strange feats of mobility, communication, or manipulation +of environment witnessed in the UFO experience are beyond our own +powers. + +Because we harbor capacities such as those described below, it is not +unreasonable to think that, in spite of our tendency to destroy +ourselves, we may even be involved in a kind of evolutionary +transcendence. + +The discoveries of modern science give us a new perspective on the +world and our human capacities. In the context of evolution, "...our +planet has been revealed not as a static or cyclical world, but as an +arena in which graduation upon graduation of species have occurred for +several hundred million years. This stupendous advance suggests that +humans might develop further." Indeed, evolution "...has even exceeded +its own bounds before - as, for example, when life arose from inorganic +matter and humankind from its primate ancestors..."22 + +Space does not allow a thorough investigation of each phenomenon and +the scientific proof for its existence. In his book The Future of the +Body23, Michael Murphy has listed human attributes that characterize +this emergent level of development. The reader may choose to examine +for him or herself the pages of Murphy's exhaustively researched +masterpiece. Following are examples of the classes of developing +attributes that apply to the hypothesis that the abduction experience +is a metanormal creation of humankind: + +Perception of External Events - + +"Feeling" people in a house though you cannot see or hear them. + +Spontaneous, unexpected perceptions of distant events. + +Sensing a numinous presence during meditation, intimate conversation, +or other circumstances. + +Seeing lights around people or inanimate objects for which there are no +apparent sources. + +Spontaneously apprehending the presence of someone physically distant +or dead, by direct and vivid contact. + +Communication Abilities - + +Correctly intuiting someone's (negative or positive) feelings or +thoughts about you or a third party. + +Telepathically stimulating feelings loving or hateful, serene or +agitated moods in another person. + +Saying something unexpected in unison with someone else. + +Sensing correctly who is calling on the telephone, even though the +caller hasn't communicated for a long time, or thinking about someone +who then calls you. + +"Feeling" what someone else is thinking. Having the same dream a friend +does. + +Movement Abilities - + +Experiencing flight as if in a subtle body, during an especially vivid +dream or state of creative absorption. + +Out-of-body experience (during which you may see your own body) after +which you report events that could not be known to you in ordinary +circumstances. + +Experiencing an extraordinary pleasure in movement accompanied by an +apparent release of new energies in particular body parts. (Note the +similarity to abilities reported in the Andreasson case, exhaustively +researched by Rayhmond E. Fowler and presented in his Book Watchers). + +Pain and Pleasure - + +Eliminating pain by simply willing it away. + +Cognition - + +Correctly sensing unexpected danger. + +Apprehending an exceptionally complex and original set of ideas all at +once, in conjunction with great excitement and joy. + +Remembering extremely complex material with perfect detail. + +Correctly determining historical events connected with a particular +location or object, as if by some sort of clairvoyance. + +Experiencing a sense of mystical contact with God, perhaps at work, or +during a festive event, or while engaged in intimate conversation, or +in the midst of suffering. + +Volition - + +Waking from sleep at a designated moment without assistance from an +alarm. + +Spontaneously exerting subliminal influence upon others in such ways as +harmonizing conflicting parties, bringing peace to potentially violent +situations, or -conversely- causing discord and suffering. + +Individuation and Sense of Self - + +Awakening to a witness self that is fundamentally distinct from +particular thoughts, impulses, feelings, or sensations. + +Feeling for a moment as if your body is only a small part of yourself, +or that it is located at a specific point in the field of awareness. + +Experiencing an identity that self-evidently existed before your birth +and that will outlast your body's death. + +Bodily Structures, States, and Processes - + +Radical alterations of body image, as if you are much taller or +shorter, for example, or shaped like a sphere, column, diamond, or +point. (Again, note the material reported by Fowler regarding the +Andreasson case). + +Sensing that new structures, which seem to be made of subtle matter, +are forming inside your body or on your skin. + + +There is now a large body of clinical evidence that ESP operates in our +everyday lives in ways we do not typically recognize. It has been +demonstrated with consistency by subjects in contemporary experiments. +Because of the success of their experiments at SRI International Targ +and Puthoff wrote: + + We have not found a single person who could not do + remote viewing to satisfaction... The indications are + that this is a widespread human talent."24 + +Some people apprehend phantom figures or extraphysical worlds that seem +to be more than figments of their imagination. Climbers Estcourt and +Scott, explorer Ernest Shackleton, seafarer Joshua Slocum, and aviator +Charles Lindbergh, for example, described disembodied entities that +tried to communicate with them and that persisted for hours or days. +Many people recount near-death episodes in which they perceive beings +that seem to know what is happening in this world. Contemplative adepts +have detailed their perceptions of otherworld entities and vistas that +seem not far removed from our normal environments. During such +experiences, the subject typically feels as if he or she is +apprehending something real, something with its own objective status, +that is somehow related to our physical universe. + +"There is a long-standing witness to phantom figures in every religious +tradition, a great many descriptions of them in the literature of +psychical research, and a considerable body of speculation about their +nature and causes. It has been proposed, for example, that because +human perception is shaped by habitual mind-sets, disembodied entities +are typically perceived as the angels, jinn, devas, elves, or (in our +time) UFOs, of the subject's culture."25 + +A large body of evidence testifies to another extraordinary human +ability - psychokinesis, the direct influence of mind upon either +living or inorganic matter. "Metanormal influence upon our surroundings +includes these three types of activity: + +1. Telergy: the direct influence of a mind upon brain or other living +tissue without any mediations observable by the ordinary senses (or +extensions of them such as microscopes), as for example in spiritual +healing. + +2. Telekinesis: influence upon inanimate objects at a distance from, +and without material connection with, the motive cause or agent. + +3. The direct modification of some portion of space by mental +influence. + +There is also good evidence that some people can deliberately imprint +images on photographic film by mental influence. Unlikely as this +phenomenon seems, it has since the 1860s been demonstrated again and +again in Europe, Japan, and the United States.26 + +These experiences occur in all sorts of people, even when they are +neither sought nor expected. They do not seem to be entirely created by +social processes. They can not be completely suppressed in cultures +that do not support them. That so many of these experiences appear +among us without benefit of formal discipline, in people with different +backgrounds, temperaments, and cultural conditioning, strongly suggests +that we are talking about innate (if normally latent) human abilities. +Notice how closely the above observation matches the profile of people +who experience UFO and related phenomena. + +Jung believed that psychic phenomena "...can appear objectively and +concretely in the form of physical facts.... In this case the +observation is not an endopsychic perception (fantasy, intuition, +vision, hallucination, etc.) but a real outer object which behaves as +if it were motivated or evoked by, or as if it were expressing, a +thought corresponding to the archetype.27 + +The archetype is not evoked by a conscious act of the will; research +shows that it is activated, independently of the will, in a psychic +situation that needs compensating by an archetype. One might even speak +of a spontaneous archetypal intervention."28 + +Journeys into extraphysical worlds comprise yet another class of +extraordinary potential latent in most individuals, but expressed by +shamans, mystics and saints, as perhaps forerunners of human evolution. +Like other metanormal abilities, such experience has been studied by +modern psychical researchers. In addition, there is a huge body of +modern literature about extraphysical worlds, which each of us can +asses for ourselves. A few examples listed by Michael Murphy are as +follows. "In the yoga tradition, for example, the manomaya and +akashaloka siddhis provide access to other dimensions of the universe. +Siberian shamans go down to the underworld, ascend the sky, and enter +worlds of ancestral spirits. In Iranian mysticism, Hurqalya, the +celestial earth, is accessible to spiritual travel."29 + +Taken together, the above inventory of metanormal abilities give +humankind more than enough firepower to manifest physically UFO and +related phenomena. Yet, something is missing. If humankind is +collectively creating these experiences, some sort of communication is +implied. + +Several philosophers and researchers have posited a universe in which +these supernormal occurrences can be thought of as the norm. Their +concept of "prehension" could be the mechanism by which the entire +field of metanormal experiences operate, including UFO and related +phenomena. + +These philosophers emphasized the novelty (or creativity) evident at +all levels of the universe. "This means that the basic things or +entities are events, spatio-temporal processes of becoming. [This] +...view not only generalized the Einsteinian notion of the +convertibility of matter and energy, but also employed another basic +Einsteinian notion, which is that space and time are inseparable... +things comprising the world... take -or make- time, as well as space, +to occur... therefore, all actual entities are "actual occasions." No +actual things simply endure passively. Each real thing is a spatio- +temporal happening."30 + +According to philosopher Alfred North Whitehead, "...such patterning +and structural integrity are mediated by an activity inherent in all +spatio-temporal happenings, or actual occasions, namely prehension. +Subatomic entities, cells, and humans alike prehend other spatio- +temporal happenings, either including them in their own activity (by +positive prehension) or excluding them (by negative prehension). +Prehension does not necessarily involve sensory perception or +consciousness, as it goes on continually in the physical elements and +among humans at both conscious and unconscious levels. It does, +however, involve contact with other entities (or occasions), and +influence from and upon them."31 + +This view of physical things finds support from quantum theory, which +suggests that subatomic events may be influenced by perception itself. + +Through prehension then, all entities constituting this universe +continually contact and influence other entities, with some degree of +creativity, either on a cognitive or pre-cognitive level. + +The view that the entire universe is a continually prehending process +has been called panpsychism. This panpsychic view of the universe +"...led David Griffin to suggest a "nondualistic, or animistic +interactionism" to account for telepathy, psychokinesis, and +psychophysical transformations.... In this view, all consciousness, all +soul, even a disembodies soul, interacts with other entities, whether +inorganic, animal, human or superhuman, through a prehension that does +not always depend upon sensory processes, language, or the direct +application of muscular force. .... In the animistic framework Griffin +proposes, perception and causal influence are simply two aspects of the +same event."32 + +University of London physicist David Bohm, a former protege of +Einstein's and one of the world's most respected quantum physicists, +and Stanford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram, one of the architects of +our modern understanding of the brain -two of the world's most eminent +thinkers - believe that the universe itself may be a giant hologram; +literally a kind of image or construct created, at least in part, by +the human mind. The holographic paradigm explains, with empirical data +to back it up, how panpsychism works, and turns the Newtonian-Cartesian +paradigm of Western Science on its head. In the holographic paradigm +there is evidence to suggest that our world and everything in it - from +this magazine to the space shuttle, from electrons to distant galaxies +- are also only ghostly images, projections from beyond both space and +time."33 + +The most interesting thing about the holographic model, for our +purposes then, is that it demonstrates a scientific context, to go +along with the philosophical context, within which a wide range of +phenomena such as telepathy, precognition, mystical feelings of +oneness, psychokinesis and the myriad UFO-related phenomena are +permitted. + +We must look at the possibility that humankind, through panpsychism, +(allowed by the holographic paradigm) may be manifesting at least part +of UFO and related phenomena. It seems to me odd to accept the idea of +extraterrestrials visiting our planet from star systems light years +away, possibly assuming faster-than-light travel, or at least faster- +than-light communication of some form, and yet exclude other processes +equally possible under the umbrella of vanguard quantum physics. + +If collective humankind is creating at least some of these phenomena, a +new kind of, or degree of, consciousness is inferred. + +Philosopher Henri Bergson and others have emphasized the idea that new +levels of consciousness appear in the course of human history, like +other emergent properties of the universe. Even if they have roots in +eternal or preexisting orders of existence, new kinds of knowing have +become manifest for the first time on earth in particular societies and +individuals, then spread to others by education or example, and now we +can add by panpsychism. Through panpsychism, a new form of +consciousness would spread through the matrix of existence itself. + +Bergson "...found a divine purpose in evolution, which could be known +by intuition. Elan vital, the force that impels universal development, +is sometimes communicated "in its entirety" to those mystics who +achieve partial coincidence with the creative effort that is "of God, +if it is not God Himself." This experience, however, does not end in +passivity, but leads to intense activity that embodies ... love for the +world. Mystics are impelled to advance the divine purpose by furthering +the good of their fellows. The spirit of the mystics, Bergson believed, +must become universal to ensure humanity's further development."34 +(Italics mine). + +When this trans-ego communication called panpsychism begins to bubble +to the surface of cognition, then, it brings with it a spiritual depth +that goes far beyond the sharing of common cultural symbols, because +these shared experiences, though powerful, are primarily intellectual. +Panpsychism, on the other hand, working primarily through the +unconscious, circumvents the intellect, languages, cultures, politics +and religious dogma to strike resoundingly within the soul. Such an +intimate connection, when aroused en masse, fires an empathy beyond +normal psychological processes. Bubbling just under consciousness, +rising to the surface at times, there is a love of life and of the +creative force. At the same time, those who tap into this spirit of the +mystics must also endure the unnecessary pain we inflict upon each +other, since all is known without rationalization within this realm of +panpsychism. + +I think it possible that through panpsychism, and because of the +combined stresses of our time (enumerated below), this awareness, this +spirit of the mystics, is the force behind an emerging world culture. I +think it possible UFO and related phenomena are the symbols of this +emergence. + +To summarize this section: humankind has been shown, by scientific +experimentation over many years and around the world, to exhibit +abilities that far transcend normal functioning. These abilities enable +humans to manifest any of the unusual feats expressed by the alien +entities popularly called greys. + +The concept of panpsychism, supported by quantum physics and the +holographic paradigm, suggests a world in which such events are +permitted. + +Panpsychism may play a part in an emerging world culture. By +panpsychism, collective humankind could be experiencing a metanormal or +"spiritual" kind of emotion called the spirit of the mystics by +Bergson. This experience may be providing an impetus to "advance the +divine purpose by furthering the good of [our] fellows." + +Panpsychism may also be the mechanism by which an alarm is being +sounded en masse, and the mechanism by which normally latent abilities +of enormous power are manifested. + +Given that quantum physics has shown us that mind and matter are +inextricably linked, UFOs and related phenomena may be evidence of this +ultimate lack of division between the psychological, spiritual and +physical worlds. These phenomena may indeed be a product of the +collective psyche of humankind, but they are also real - neither +subjective nor objective but (to borrow a term from Michael Talbot) +"omnijective". + +UFO and related phenomena, then, may be expressions of matenormal +abilities, and of the emergence of humankind's move away from the old +boundaries of state, social status, race and religion. The very fact +that we are speaking of an emergence implies a primarily pre-cognitive +process. + + *** + + + The Social Implicate + +Vallee believes that UFO and related phenomenon "is the way through +which an alien form of intelligence of incredible complexity is +communicating with us symbolically. There is no Indication that it is +extraterrestrial."35 I agree. + +However, the only "alien" may be the alien part of ourselves, a part we +are just now beginning to acknowledge. + +UFOs and related phenomena may be a form of communication for and of +this specific moment in history. In order to understand why collective +humankind would begin to manifest metanormal events on such a grand +scale at this particular time and in this particular way, we will need +a basic understanding of the social side of this entity, "human being". + +When certain awarenesses, behaviors or incidents are misunderstood, +humankind has usually attributed such experiences to powers outside the +ordinary self. This is especially true when they seem to exceed +radically our normal capacities, but also when they seem well formed +before their appearance and when we cannot adequately account for them +in terms of familiar human processes or knowledge. Experiences such as +mystical illuminations, artistic or scientific epiphanies, religious +visions and of course UFOs, are examples of the sort of extraordinary +experiences that are attributed to agencies beyond the human scope. + +These agencies are treated symbolically in mythologies and religions. +The motifs of which mythologies and religions are made, in turn, refer +back to humankind's basic, universal, experience of life. + +There are at least four methods by which universal motifs, perhaps +informed by panpsychism, may manifest symbolically. The four methods +are symbols, metaphor, allegory and mythology which encompasses +features of the others. Symbols intrigue the mind by suggesting that +which cannot be said. Metaphor allows that which cannot be said to be +inferred by comparison. Allegory provides a narrative structure through +which that which is not said can be suggested. Myth provides a durable +structure upon which a collection of these allegorical stories, +metaphors and symbols are rendered, thereby providing a means by which, +over time, they become part of either the tribal or the universal +psyche. + +In objectively comparing the religious and/or mythological traditions +of humankind, one becomes aware of certain mythic themes that are +common to all, though differently understood and developed in the +differing traditions. Swiss psychologist, psychiatrist and author Carl +Gustav Jung (1875-1961) termed these shared mythic motifs "archetypes +of the collective unconscious," and in doing so, emphasized the +subliminal realm out of which dreams arise. According to Jung, an +"archetype" is a certain elemental experience, or pattern of +experience, common to all humankind - an experience, or pattern of +experience, which people have shared from time immemorial. + +Archetypes and archetypal patterns are not obscure or mystical. Indeed, +these days we tend to take most of them for granted. They would include +such events as birth, puberty, sexual initiation, death, the cycle of +the seasons, the traumas of war, as well as more abstract concepts such +as fear and desire, the yearning for a "spiritual home", or simply the +quest for meaning. + +Because such archetypes form the basis of the most elemental and +primeval facets of human nature, their significance often defies all +but poetic language. Language is a product of the intellect and of +rationality; archetypes and archetypal patterns extend beyond the +intellect and rationality. In consequence, they generally find +expression most directly by means of symbols, because a symbol does not +address itself to the intellect alone. Symbols evoke resonances deep +within the psyche - from within a realm the psychologist calls "the +unconscious." + +Archetypal symbols (as opposed to tribal or personal symbols) pertain +to mankind as a whole. The phoenix, for example, with its connotations +of death and rebirth, is a typical archetypal symbol. We must note how +often the phoenix shows up in the abduction experience. Archetypal +patterns are also frequently symbolized by anthropomorphic figures. + +When symbols are organized into a coherent narrative, and become a +myth, the idea of "myth" should not be thought of in terms of "fiction" +or "fantasy". On the contrary, myths imply something altogether more +complex and more profound. Historically, myths were not devised simply +to entertain and amuse, but to explain things - to account for reality. + +Most collective myths have both an archetypal and a purely tribal +aspect. Either of these can be emphasized at the expense of the other, +and the myth itself then becomes either archetypal or tribal. An +archetypal myth, as stated above, like the universal symbols it +embodies, reflects certain constants of human experience. Whatever its +origin in a specific time or place, an archetypal myth will transcend +such factors and refer to something shared by humanity as a whole. The +unique quality and virtue of an archetypal myth is that it can be used +to bring people together by stressing what they have in common. + +Tribal myths, in contrast, emphasize not what men have in common, but +what divides them. Tribal myths do not pertain to the universal and +shared aspects of human experience. On the contrary, they serve to +extol and exalt a specific tribe, culture, people, nation or ideology - +necessarily at the expense of other tribes, cultures, peoples, nations +and ideologies. Instead of leading inwards towards self- confrontation +and self-recognition, tribal myths point outwards, towards self- +glorification and self-aggrandizement. Such myths derive their impetus +and energy from insecurity, from blindness, from prejudice - and from +the willful creation of a scapegoat.36 + +Cultural myths reflect a deep-rooted uncertainty about inner identity. +They define an external identity by means of contrast and negation. +Everything that the enemy is, one is not. Everything that the enemy is +not, one is. This can be seen in recent times, of course, in the cold +war policies of the former Soviet Union and the United States, and this +is the source of religious intolerance, and of bigotry. + +Societies conspire to hijack archetypal myths as a matter of course. +Psychologist Charles Tart has compared hypnosis with the socialization +process, arguing that enculturation has many features in common with +the hypnotic inductions and behaviors observed in the laboratory. A +culture's power to induce hypnosis, however, is more pervasive, long- +lasting and effective than a single hypnotist's, for it is not limited +to a few sessions and may use innumerable punishments and rewards to +strengthen its effects. Nearly all members of a given culture share a +"consensus trance," which is virtually unbreakable, so that they are +continually re- hypnotized by most of the people they encounter.37 + +Since time immemorial and continuing now, the same triad of urgencies, +of feeding, procreating and overcoming are the motivating powers. These +primal concerns are the source of constant anxiety and the source of +fear-driven philosophies such as those just mentioned. In order to +assure these urgencies, the first requirement has heretofore been the +suppression of the natural impulse to mercy. In other words, tribal +myths work against the spirit of the mystics mentioned earlier. + +The quality of mercy, empathy or compassion is a gift of nature. It is +apparent in all the higher mammals. Compassion is not tribal -or +species- oriented but open to the appeal of the whole range of living +beings. Therefore, one of the first concerns of the elder, prophets and +established priesthoods of tribal or institutionally oriented +mythological systems has always been, writes Joseph Campbell, "...to +limit and define the permitted field of expression of this expansive +faculty of the heart, holding it to a fixed focus within the field +exclusively of [the localized mythology], while deliberately directing +outward every impulse to violence. Within the [specific culture] deeds +of violence are forbidden: "Thou shalt not kill... Thou shalt not covet +they neighbor's wife" (Exodus 20:13, 17; also, Deuteronomy 5:17,21), +whereas abroad, such acts are required: "you shall put all its males to +the sword, but the women... you shall take as booty to yourselves" +(Deuteronomy 20:13- 14). In Islamic thought the nations of the earth +are distinguished as of two realms: dar al'islam, "the realm of +submission to Allah," and dar al'harb "the realm of war, " which is to +say, the rest of the world. And in Christian thought, the words +reported of the resurrected Christ to his eleven remaining apostles - +"Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations (Matthew 28:19) +- have been interpreted as a divine mandate for conquest of the +planet."38 + +"It all comes of misreading metaphors, taking denotation for +connotation, the messenger for the message...[and thereby] throwing +both life and thought off balance. To which the only generally +recognized correction as yet proposed has been the no less wrongheaded +one of dismissing the metaphors as lies (which indeed they are, when so +construed), thus scrapping the whole dictionary of the language of the +soul (this is a metaphor) by which mankind has been elevated to +interests beyond procreation, economics, and "the greatest good of the +greatest number.""39 + +The UFO complex could be the grand messenger of our time. Yet, most +ufologists may be guilty of taking denotation for connotation, the +messenger for the message. At the same time mainstream science promotes +the policy of dismissing the metaphor as a lie. + +Though those who promote a tribal reading of mythologies would have us +believe a literalist's point of view, Joseph Campbell writes, "Like +dreams, myths are productions of the human imagination. Their images, +consequently, though derived from the material world and its supposed +history, are, like dreams, revelations of the deepest hopes, desires, +and fears, potentialities and conflicts, of the human will - which in +turn is moved by the energies of the organs of the body operating +variously against each other and in concert. Every myth, that is to +say, whether or not by intention, is psychologically symbolic. Its +narratives and images are to be read, therefore, not literally, but as +metaphors."40 + +If enculturation is pervasive, archetypal motifs are sempiternal. +Jacques Vallee has described four components to myth, in the context of +UFO phenomena, to explain the power these experiences have to change +our beliefs: the emotional, the celestial, the psychic, and the +spiritual.41 + +The emotional component is a kind of seduction that intrigues the +psyche and nevertheless hints at danger. This would include some +stories of sexual encounters that may seem absurd and shocking but form +a significant part of the total mystery. + +The celestial component includes heavenly signs, contact with angels +and with the creatures of other planets, and the rest of those denizens +who form tales of outside intervention in human affairs. + +The psychic component in the sightings is the most difficult to +research because ordinary logic does not apply to the paranormal. And +yet, a thread of apparently absurd events remain consistent from case +to case. In his book Secret Life, Doctor Jacobs notes the convergence +of minute detail found in the 300 abduction cases he researched. His +work supports, rather than diminishes, the work of others in the field +of abduction research. Vallee calls this thread of non-ordinary "logic" +which connects the seeming absurd details of these reports "metalogic." + +The spiritual component is perhaps the most ominous aspect of the UFO +myth. It is unnerving to witness how well UFO and related phenomena +fits into the framework established by the entire complex of miracles +recorded in human history; from gods descending from the stars in +ancient Sumerian mythology, to the Pillar of Fire and the Burning Bush +in the Old Testament, to apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary (BVMs), +to Joseph Smith's visions of Angel Moroni leading to the creation of +the Mormon Church. + +In our times, perhaps more then at any other time, we see a tremendous +struggle between tribal and archetypal mythologies, as traditional +institutions of meaning begin to fail us and we begin to look +elsewhere. The anxieties created by this cosmic tug-of-war add to the +already overwhelming stresses of our time. As mentioned before, such +stress is at once an impetus for change, and responsible for fear- +driven adherence to tribal and religious dogma. + +One of the most powerfully resonant of all symbolic and mythic motifs +is that of the apocalypse. It occurs frequently in the history of most +the world's major religions, and is used in a variety of ways. +Sometimes it is employed archetypally - to induce, as a preliminary to +judgment, soul-searching and self-assessment, whether of an individual +or of a culture. Sometimes it is produced as an explanation for +assorted ills, real, imagined or anticipated. But mostly, it is +deployed to intimidate people, to play upon their guilt, break down +resistance and extort trust. Sometimes it is utilized in a crudely +tribal fashion, as an instrument for creating a self-styled elite of +the "saved" and opposed to the mass of the "damned". Sometimes it is +even made to serve as an excuse for persecuting the supposedly +"damned". Sometimes this motif is corrupted by a charismatic madmen who +leads hundreds to their death. It is interesting to note how often the +apocalypse motif shows up in the abduction experience. + +A second archetype worthy of note in light of our topic is what might +be called the cabal, or the "invisible junta" or secret society. These +can be found across the world, in every culture, in every age. Usually, +the secret society is characterized as a conclave of puppet-masters, a +clandestine circle of individuals working for good or ill "behind the +scenes", manipulating others, orchestrating events, applying pressure, +pulling strings, "making things happen". + +Dr. Vallee and others have pointed out, and I have mentioned above, +that the abduction experience matches in general structure the kind of +initiatory experience utilized by secret societies. I believe it +possible that these experiences are indeed initiatory and that they are +produced by collective humankind in preparation for bringing to +consciousness the moment of transcendence we are now experiencing. +Below are the general stages of a typical abduction experience followed +by the general stages of an initiation ritual in parenthesis: + +1. An unsuspecting person is confronted by small, strange looking +creatures, often with odd clothing (The candidate is confronted by +members of the group wearing special costumes.) + +2. From the first few seconds of an abduction, nothing is within the +realm of normal human experience. S/he is paralyzed, and rendered simi- +conscious (S/he is blindfolded.) + +3. The abductee is spirited off, often by levitation, often somehow +through closed windows, out into the night, up into a waiting craft +(S/he is led by the arm through a rough and difficult route). + +4. The abductee is taken to a specially designed chamber that has no +windows and is placed in such a way that s/he can only see part of what +is going on (S/he is taken into a specially designed chamber that has +no windows and is placed in such a way that s/he can only see part of +it). + +5. After a physical examination by short creatures, the abductee is +confronted by a creature that looks similar to, but is taller than, the +short creatures. It is obvious this taller creature is "in control" +(S/he is placed in the presence of a "Master.") + +6. The taller creature puts the abductee through further physical +procedures, then moves on to various mental procedures, part of which +is often to answer questions, or to solve a problem) S/he is given a +test and made to answer questions. + +7. During the mental procedures administered by the taller being, the +abductee is often made to see images telepathically, or is taken into a +kind of multimedia room and show images on a screen. The images often +have to do with various forms of personal or mass destruction (S/he is +shown a variety of symbols designed to remind him of death. + +8. Often the abductee sees other humans in dire circumstances, or even +parts of humans in large vats. The physical procedures are often +painful and always frightening (The situation suggests that s/he may +not survive the ordeal.) + +9. Often the abductee is given something to drink (S/he is given food +or drink.) + +10. The abductee is rendered unconscious, or simi-conscious and then in +various ways deposited outside the craft (S/he is blindfolded again and +led outside). + +What happens if we begin to read UFO and related phenomena as +archetypes, metaphors, as the essence of myth? + +Vallee draws a parallel between religious apparitions, the fairy-faith, +the reports of dwarf-like beings with supernatural powers, other +denizens of folk lore and mythology and the present reports of UFO +landings and abductions. He writes, "Such contact includes abduction, +ordeal (including surgical operations), and sexual intercourse with the +aliens. It often leaves marks and scars on the body and the mind, as do +UFO abductions."42 Valley believes the mechanisms that have generated +these various beliefs and experiences are identical. Their human +context and their effect on humans are constant. The phenomenon has +stable, invariant features.43 If the UFO complex is indeed an outward +expression of archetypal motifs, then of course, he is right. + +As the imagery of a dream is metaphorical of the psychology of its +dreamer, that of a mythology is metaphorical of the psychological +posture of the people to whom it pertains. The sociological structure +which arises out of this psychological posture was termed by the +Africanist Leo Frobenius (1873- 1938) a cultural "monad."44 So, who are +the people who inform the UFO mythology? Not just the people of the +United States, for UFO phenomena is world-wide. Not just the Western +cultures, because UFO phenomena occur in all cultures. Not just those +who reside in industrialized nations, for UFO phenomena occur in Third +World Countries. The pervasiveness of the phenomena points towards a +collective humankind. + +In The Decline of the West, Oswalk Spengler (1880-1936) distinguished +"eight colossal monads of great majesty," with a ninth now in +formation, as having dominated world history since the rise, in the +fourth millennium BC, of the first literate high cultures. They are: +(1) the Sumero-Babylonian, (2) the Egyptian, (3) the Greco-Roman +(Apollonian), (4) the Vedic-Aryan, of India, (5) the Chinese, (6) the +Maya- Aztec/Incan, (7) the Magian (Persian-Arabian, Judeo- Christian- +Islamic), (8) the Faustian (Goth-Christian to modern European- +American), and now, expressed through a Marxian cultural overlay, (9) +the germinating Russian- Christian. + +I propose another "colossal monad," one that is informed by an emerging +world culture. This world culture, having access to probably more +religious, contemplative, shamanic, and esoteric lore than at any other +time in history and having a greater and more immediate access to world +events than ever before, will subsume all previous cultural monads in +time. + +These sociological structures have been, up until this time, localized +(in time and space) and constellating variously in relation to current +needs and interests. But when a society looses faith in the ability of +old tribal myths as a source of meaning, the control factor is +neutralized; primal bioenergies are unbridled. + +Rising urban crime, corporate greed and personal selfishness can be +seen as fear driven strategies - an apparently necessary evil as the +institutions we once relied upon for meaning fail us and insecurity +becomes the prime motive force. However, the stress resultant from such +psychological positions may also serve as an impetus to search for +meaning elsewhere. To seek meaning is native to our species. If I am +right, UFO and related experience say that we simply must come to terms +with our modern anxieties and their root causes. We are no longer are +allowed denial. + +"Heideger has said that we are living in the time between the death of +the old gods and the birth of the new, a theme that resonates with +Jung's idea that UFOs are fundamental symbols of "changes in the +constellation of psychic dominants, of the archetypes, or [gods] as +they used to be called, which brings about, or accompany, long-lasting +transformations of the collective psyche.""45 + +Jung realized that religious vision are experienced "...in times of +personal and collective distress or danger, or in response to "vital +psychic need"." He has also noted that today, individuals and cultures +are faced with a threat, "...namely of being swallowed up in the mass. +Hence in many places there is a wave of hope in a reappearance of +Christ, and a visionary rumor has even arisen which expresses +expectations of redemption. The form it has taken, however, is +comparable to nothing in the past, but is a typical child of the "age +of technology." this is the worldwide distribution of the UFO +phenomenon..."46 + +Writes Kieth Thompson in his book Angels and Aliens, "From the +archetypal perspective pioneered by Carl Jung, it could be argued that +each case (of UFO encounter) was a specific instance of an emerging +shift in the collective structure of reality. Perhaps some entirely +new, or latent, dimension was beginning to "bleed through" into +collective consciousness, via particular individuals in particular +places. Or perhaps something quite ancient from the world soul was +making its periodic return, in a novel form, as part of a larger cycle +or spiral of manifestation."47 + +Jung noted that he was not pleased to conclude that the appearance of +UFOs clearly indicated "coming events which are in accord with the end +of an era." Such large-scale anomalies typically arise when wholesale +changes are under way in the balance of forces in the collective +unconscious. Jung had no doubt that humanity was entering a time of +profound transition from one set of ruling images - those of the +Piscean Age coinciding with the rise of Christianity - to a new +collective disposition of psychic elements related to the era of +Aquarius.48 + +The life of a mythology derives from the vitality of its symbols as +metaphors delivering, not simply the idea, but a sense of actual +participation in the realization of transcendence, infinity and +abundance. + +In 1990 Clive Potter, Phillip Mantle and Andrew Walmsley published four +summaries of cases in which each individual witness claims an "alien +contact" of some kind. The cases were part of British UFO Research +Association and Independent UFO Network joint abduction/contactee +research. In each case the abductee felt that as a direct result of +their UFO contact experiences, they had been given information - or a +new awareness - with regards to the future. Further, each felt they had +a role to play in any future society, or at least, in the transition +between the old and the new one. In all four cases the experiencer was +convinced that this information was, and in some cases, still is coming +to them via "alien contact."49 + +During my own studies over the past ten years I have repeatedly noted +research with UFO experiencers and abductees that brings to light the +powerful dimensions of personal growth that can accompany those +traumatic experiences, especially when these people receive appropriate +help from knowledgeable mental health facilitators. For instance, an +intense concern for the planet's survival and a powerful ecological +consciousness seem to develop for many abductees. + +It is difficult to avoid the impression that while the debate between +true believers on both sides of the UFO question presses on with +questionable productivity, personal and collective belief systems have +been changing in momentous ways. + +While we look the other way, the human mythological structure is +undergoing a fundamental shift. Public opinion surveys reveal that more +people than ever now take for granted that we are not alone in the +universe - "inner" as well as "outer" universes, if such a duality +actually exists. UFOs and related phenomena prod us to take apart +Western dogma concerning the supposedly interminable gulf between mind +and matter, spirit and body, culture and world and other familiar +dichotomies. + +Joseph Campbell tells us that a fundamental transformation of the +historical traditions usually subjugating humanity is in prospect. The +age of the conquering armies of the contending colossal monads may be +about to close. Boundaries are dissolving. "And along with them, the +psychological hold [of their] mythological images and related social +rituals by which they were supported. Old gods are dead or dying and +people everywhere are searching, asking: What is the new mythology to +be, the mythology of this unified earth as of one harmonious being? + +Campbell continues, "One cannot predict the next mythology any more +than one can predict tonight's dream; for a mythology is... something +experienced from the heart, from recognitions of identities behind or +within the appearance of nature, perceiving with love a "thou" where +there would have been otherwise only an "it.""50 + +With our innate ability to experience compassion, and our collective +realization of the threat to humankind's viability in the future, +experienced during a time of profound absence of meaning as familiar +institutions crumble around us, our natural tendency, therefore, is an +urgency to take action. And yet enculturation subverts this process by +reinforcing individuation through tribal mythologies. Thus, in our +time, we seem to be stuck at an impasse. No wonder we are experiencing +a profound collective anxiety, and perhaps because of it, close +encounters of the symbolic kind (CE-S?). + +Unfortunately, we have more than ancient tribal beliefs and +enculturation standing in the way of future human evolvement. Though we +continue to try, it is becoming impossible to ignore runaway +technology, medicine without compassion, global economies, diminishing +resources, increasing population, a seemingly doomed ecology, and +ourselves: an intelligent species floundering in a mythless void, +cowering in the face of the power to create a new vision. If someone +would just teach us how to do it. + +What is needed, then, is a powerful symbol - or symbols, the precursors +of a mythology, that will suggest a path towards restored harmony and +well being - that is, the intent of the world-culture monad. It is my +arguement that the abduction experience provides just such a vehicle +for change. As the various ethnic and cultural forms dissolve, it is +the specter of androgynous Anthropos that emerges. In other words, +generic humankind. And the perfect symbol for that is, the Greys. + +I think it possible we have collectively created a simi-real +environment in which such a pedagogical narrative takes place. In this +scenario, all the members of humankind are held, both in mind and in +sentiment to the knowledge of our common threat, and thus are moved to +live in accord with this knowledge. This is the over-riding motivating +force of the emerging world-culture monad - survival in the face of the +error of our ways. I think it possible that we, a world culture formed +of a species gifted with usually latent but potent abilities of +manifestation, have created a planetary Host, one specially formed to +communicate this monadic impetus, if in an allegorical form. + +Allegories are usually a long and elaborate story with many characters +and incidents through which is illustrated an unstated moral principle +or abstract truth. By having an apparently absurd, or bizarre surface +structure, allegory immediately elicits an interpretive response. +Allegories are based on parallels between two levels of meaning. One is +suspected while the other is literally presented in an understandable, +if unbelievable, story. Nothing appears more often in ufology than an +impulse to get to the "real truth" beyond "mere appearances". + +In summation of the material thus far presented: I think it possible +the collective need of humankind to preserve itself in uncertain times +has called forth latent metanormal abilities to make manifest a +metaphorical actuality appropriate for this time: UFO phenomena +culminating in an abduction allegory. + +In this scenario: + +First, a threat has been perceived in the collective unconscious of +humankind. Through panpsychism humankind is moved to collectively +experience the spirit of the mystic. The subsequent call to action to +"advance the divine purpose by furthering the good of [our] fellows" +forms the core of an emerging world culture. Enculturation works +against the emerging evolution of consciousness. The resulting impasse +causes stress. Further stress related to ecological decay, overall +anxiety about our future viability and the failure of traditional +institutions to impart meaning, forces us past a threshold. An +allegorical narrative is manifested in semi- real terms by the +collective force of native metanormal abilities. + + + *** + + + The Abduction Experience as Allegory + +Many theories have been posited to explain the abduction experience. +Space is not available here to annotate each hypothesis. I therefore +refer the reader to Secret Life by Dr. Jacobs for a comprehensive list +and his rebuttal to each.51 The following inventory, then, is not +exhaustive, but included to give the reader an idea of the various +explanations for the abduction experience: fabrication, repression of +abuse, hysterical contagion, multiple personality disorder, fantasy- +prone personalities, the influence of hypnosis, prewaking and +presleeping states, the will to believe, channeling, hallucinations, +psychosis, psychogenic fugue state, temporal lobe dysfunction, desire +for a baby, folklore, archetypal memories, birth trauma, alternative +realities and finally, the influence of science fiction. + +In Jacob's own words, "All of these explanations - psychological, +psychiatric, cultural, and exotic - fail to account for critically +important aspects of the abduction event. They ignore the richness and +abundance of similar, frequently exact detail and the extraordinary +convergence of the abductee narrative across all cultural boundaries. +For example, mindscan, visualization, and many other abduction +procedures (explained below) have never been publicized or written +about even in the most esoteric UFO literature, yet virtually all +abductees (in his studies) describe them. Abductees tell essentially +the same story regardless of their age, race, religion, upbringing, +occupation, economic status, educational level, intelligence, life- +style, or ethnic or cultural background."52 + +It is true that none of these explanations by themselves address even +most of the myriad aspects that make up UFO lore. Neither does a +literalist ET hypothesis. However, the three hypotheses described in +this article, working in concert, do address most UFO and related +phenomena. + +As we have now seen, through panpsycism and the holographic paradigm of +the universe there may be no separation between mind, spirit and matter +- no separation between subjective and objective. In other words, the +abduction experience could well be internally generated, yet still +feature the complexity, and convergence of minute detail across +geographical and cultural boundaries, because the internal mechanisms +that would generate such narratives are informed by all humankind, at a +moment of trancendence. + +Jacobs argues, "None of these theories explain the lack of strong +personal content in the abduction accounts. For instance, the narrative +contain little about the abductee's past life, personal life, or +fantasy life. Abduction accounts contain almost no material related to +the person's social, cultural, familial, or occupational activities."53 + +Yet, if collective humankind has manifested this experience, one would +expect a generic message - one having more to do with collective +anxieties. + +Even the "alien's" color may be meaningful. As we approach the +millennium, we find a society awash in information, but with a paucity +of meaning. The ancient traditions and institutions they spawned have +failed us. We have awakened from our collective dream where choices are +black or white, to a time when it is becoming impossible to think in +such simple and comfortable terms. Our lives, our thinking, our choices +are now rendered in shades of grey - a perfect color for our proxies. +If we allow a free-flow of associations, we soon notice that the +"alien's" grey, or even pink-grey, color is also the color of the organ +from which these denizens may arise to inform us of our unconscious +desire to transcend what has gone before. + +Above, I mentioned how the "aliens" have a sameness about them, how +they don't seem to change with the passing of time. In fact, they +compare well with mannequins, or generic homonid. Thereby, a light is +thrown upon collective humankind. We are center stage in this theatre +of the absurd. + +The Beings overall fetus-like stature may be metaphorical for a primal, +basic, new or original message. On a deeper level, the stature of these +creatures may represent a hint towards deciphering the allegory in +which they operate. The hint could be that we should think about the +emergence of new life, or new consciousness. Considering the over-all +theme of creating an "alien"- human hybrid, perhaps the message is that +we are becoming something different than what we have been. We are +becoming what has been, and still is, alien to us - at least on a +cognitive level. + +If collective humankind has caused this manifestation to herald the +emerging into consciousness an awareness of our native metanormal +abilities and the spirit of the mystics, the above symbolic +possibilities make sense. + +With their giant, intimidating eyes, the "aliens" are reported to stare +right into our souls. They seem very interested in how abductees +assimilate their various experiences during the abduction - thereby +throwing the attention back upon ourselves once again. We know nothing +of them, but they seem to encourage us to discover much about +ourselves. If thousands of people in the United States alone have had +the abduction experience, shouldn't "they" have enough information +about the psycho-social functions of our minds by now? Perhaps that +isn't the point. + +The physical examination each abductee is made to endure during the +first phase of the abduction can also be seen as a metaphor for our +times. The examination, much like a physical given before insurance is +granted, is highly efficient and routine. Though the abductee may be +frightened witless, the abductors show no emotional response +whatsoever. The abductee is made to feel like a powerless lab animal. +If anything, the abductors will say (telepathically) something inane +like, "You shouldn't be frightened of this," or, "This won't hurt," and +then it does. If I were going to try and express anxiety, through a +story, regarding the impersonal, compassionless, alienating direction +that our medical practices are moving towards, I couldn't think of a +better narrative than grey, impersonal beings doing strange things to +me in an alien environment - the perfect generic reduction. + +By examining an abduction experience in detail, it is possible to +reveal further the metaphorical content of the stages which combine to +make up the allegorical narrative of this initiation experience. + +After studying abductions for several years Dr. Jacobs realized that +the procedures examined below fit together into a standard structure. +There are Primary, Secondary and Ancillary experiences which are broken +down into Physical, Mental, and Reproductive procedures. Primary +experiences are: Physical - examinations, tissue samples and implants; +Mental - staring (various PSI54 induced physiological and psychological +activities); Reproductive - urological- gynecological examinations, +egg-sperm collection, embryo implanting, fetal extraction. Secondary +experiences are: Physical - the use of various machines during +examinations; Mental - visualization, imaging, envisioning, staging, +(all terms developed by Dr. Jacobs, each explained below), and testing; +Reproductive - child presentations in their various forms. Ancillary +experiences are: miscellaneous physical activities such as surgeries +and cures; Mental - media display (another Jacobsian term), information +transfer (another PSI activity); Reproductive -involuntary and/or +compulsive sexual activity with or without "humans" and/ or "hybrids". + +Procedures such as examinations, tissue samples and implants can be +"read" metaphorically as anxiety about run-away medical practice at the +hands of dehumanizing and alienating doctors and technicians. + +Reproductive procedures are a constant feature of the abduction +experience and seem ultimately directed to the production of hybrid +beings. Women are forced to endure the extraction and implantation of +eggs, the extraction of fetuses and unwanted pregnancies. Men are +forced to endure the extraction of sperm.55 These procedures may +illustrate a complex of human anxieties about the future of the once +private joy of creating a family. Test tube babies, artificial +insemination, sperm donors, women paid to carry another woman's child, +the specter of cloning - while many of these modern medical +possibilities bring with them the possibility of families where once +there were none, science has raced forward at a shocking rate, a rate +which leaves cultures and individuals scarce time to adapt. We are left +in wonderment, disillusionment and confusion. Where does artificial +insemination fit into the divine plan? What happens when humankind take +over a realm once owned by the Almighty? + +Dr. Jacobs found the primary mental experience to be a process he named +"staring". "Through the abduction, both as a way of communicating with +the abductee and, presumably, of examining and altering her mental and +emotional state, the Beings stare deeply into the abductee's eyes."56 +Under the realm of staring are several special uses of this telepathic +device. One of them is Mindscan. + +Mindscan is administered by the taller being (the Master in the +initiation ritual). Again, the abductee is made to feel powerless. The +abductee's objections or attempts to find out more information are not +dealt with seriously. "Mindscan entails deep, penetrating staring into +the abductee's eyes. Abductees commonly feel that data of some sort is +being extracted from their minds. We do not know what the information +is, how it is extracted, or what the Beings do with it. Once abductee +thinks that they transfer it to other Beings" minds."57 + +Both general staring techniques and Mindscan can be read metaphorically +as a fear of loss of individuality, a fear of the loss of private +thoughts, and the fear of the loss of personal liberty by totalitarian +authorities. Generally, this is the fear of powerlessness in the face +of a passionless, all-powerful force (the advance of technology, the +de-humanization of the corporate world). Abductees often feel as if +they are "falling into the eyes" of the taller being. What better +expression of the fear of becoming lost in the mass, as Jung suggested? + +"During Mindscan, the Taller Being can elicit specific emotions in the +abductee, such as fear and terror. Often he will create an instant rush +of pleasurable emotions in the abductee that "bonds" her to him. As he +stares deeply into her eyes, she may feel that the Taller Being is +really a "good" individual. She wants to help him."58 She may even be +induced to "love" him. After the experience the abductee will often +know s/he has been duped and experience the resultant shame and +confusion. What better way to address the emotional manipulations of +campaign propaganda, hollow religious traditions, and of individuals +crippled by a lack of guidance and meaning? Generally, this procedure +may underscore disillusionment and the loss of faith in ones ability to +judge the motivations of others, in a time when old structures no +longer guarantee social restraint. + +One of the secondary experiences are Machine Examinations. Various +kinds of machines come out of walls, down from the ceiling, or are +"wheeled" over from a side area to the abductee. Most experiencers +think they are devices for recording, like an x-ray, or scanning +device. Various other kinds of machines are used during other +procedures, such as gynecological and urological manipulations. In the +main, these machines buz, tingle, features flashing lights, and don't +seem to harm or alter the abductee. They perhaps represent the +mysterious equipment used by modern medicine, and underscore +powerlessness, alienation and fear of modern technology. + +"Secondary mental procedures consist of having an abductee visualize +scenes and objects that evoke an emotional or intellectual response. +This allows the aliens to examine human emotions, abilities, thought +processes, memory and perhaps even intelligence. During these +procedures, as in Mindscan, an alien stares deeply into the abductee's +eyes."59 + +Imaging is a secondary visualization technique. A Taller Being comes +over and stands next to the abductee. S/he is shown a screen-like +apparatus and images begin to appear on it. The scene is often +abhorrent and disturbing. Scenes of death and destruction, war, atomic +explosions and the end of the world are typical. Also typical are +sexually charged scenes. Sometimes the images are mundane and evoke a +neutral response. Though it is conceivable these images caused the +formation of entire religious movements in the past, the scenes do not +appear to have any prophetic value. During Imaging one fundamental +factor stands out: A Taller Being stands by the abductee and stares +deeply into his/er eyes during the procedure. "He" seems to want to +analyze the emotional effects of viewing the images. + +If my hypotheses are right, if collective humankind has manifested an +initiation in semi-real terms, it would make sense that part of the +initiatory experience would be a facing of the anxieties we deny in +consciousness. It would make sense that the authority figure would want +to see how we react. The symbolic message might be: "Are we getting +through? Look at your fear of the future. Will you let the world end in +a nuclear debacle? Do you want life to become more and more mundane +until it is unbearable? Will sex remain the realm of obsessive +behavior, or will you integrate this activity into a balanced +experience of life? + +Media displays are an ancillary mental procedure. Within something like +a multi-media room, abductees are show moving pictures of beautiful and +idyllic landscapes. One sees majestic mountains, rivers, beautiful +birds, fields of grain, etc. The scenes always feature perfect weather. +No evidence of civilization can be seen. No humans or aliens are seen. +Abductee's have felt that these scenes might be depictions of a world +the aliens are creating, one that may be important for humans at some +point. One abductee studied by Dr. Jacobs thought that she was seeing +planet Earth after alien intervention and that the display was a kind +of propaganda. She got the feeling of being manipulated by "Big +Brother". + +If collective humankind were to create a simi-real world, one would +expect it to be a generic world. If one wished to express in a symbolic +way, on the level of emotions, the fear of the loss of individuality +and free choice, one would expect the feeling of Big Brother running +the operation. + +"Secondary reproductive procedures do not involve reproduction itself, +but rather the interaction between abductees and what appears to be the +product of the alien breeding program. In these strange encounters, the +aliens carefully watch as women, men, and children are required either +to observe or physically interact with bizarre looking "offspring"."60 + +The "incubatorium" is a room where the abductee sees scores of what +appear to be fetuses in the process of incubation. There are seen +floating in containers filled with a liquid solution, or lying down in +either liquid or dry environments. The containers are often attached to +apparatus which appear to be life-support systems. The environment is +cold and lab-like. Aliens who work here are simply doing routine jobs. +They are emotionless. The fetuses do not seem alive as we would +understand it, yet they seem to be placed in order of stages of growth. + +This stage of the abduction experience is obvious on a metaphorical +level. Here is a clear expression of angst generated from runaway +technology without parallel cultural development. Where do test tube +babies fit into our mythologies, our religions? What do these advances +in science say about our future? What does the future hold for our +prodigy? + +"In another child-presentation procedure, the aliens take the abductee +into a room either singly or with a group of other abductees and show +her a nursery-like area containing as many as a hundred babies.... More +often than not, they are lying in hard, transparent boxes. Obviously +not fetuses, these babies are old enough to live on their own. However, +the babies appear phlegmatic and sickly."61 Abductees feel like the +babies should be crying, but they are not. The "aliens" attending the +babies often just stand there, almost as if guarding the room. The +overall impression is that in a place where there should be much life, +there is little if any. The abductees, regardless of their +predisposition to babies, are forced to view this disturbing scene. One +abductee argued, "Sorry, but you picked the wrong person. I don't care +about babies. I don't even like babies." The "alien" replied: "That's +all right, you're still involved. You're still involved."62 + +If on some metanormal level we are sending ourselves a generic message, +one would expect the message to apply regardless of the individual +abductee's personal preferences. The Nursery motif could well represent +the extreme logical outcome if we continue in the direction we are +going with our own children. Children are shipped off to nurseries +where they are cared for en mass. While some facilities undoubtedly +provide quality care, more often we have found this is sadly not the +case. Instead, our children simply find alien childcare. In a more +general sense, this scene adds to an overall theme of dehumanization- +which in a sense implies that we are becoming alien to ourselves. At +another level, as we continue to concern ourselves with ourselves, our +children become alien to us. + +"Child presentations involve more than viewing. Abductees are also +required to touch, hold, or hug these offspring. Although abductees +will see more babies than any other age group of Being, they are also +often presented with young children and even adolescents. Apparently it +is absolutely essential for the child to have human contact. Although +the aliens prefer that the humans give nurturing, loving contact, any +physical contact seems to suffice."63 + +If we are sending cosmic proxies to manipulate our beliefs, one would +expect both positive and negative reinforcement. First we are shown the +possible outcome of our move towards institutionalizing our children in +lieu of parenting, then we are forced to nurture these children, +whether we like it or not; at the same time it is pointed out that +touching and holding are absolutely essential. The main theme of child +presentation is that these children need human contact regardless if +they are pretty, regardless if they are sickly in appearance, +regardless if they are alien to us. This is tough talk. "Rough love", +it's called in some forms of therapy. It's time for us to grow up and +move along in our development. We are no longer allowed to deny that +clearly, we must not continue to abandon our children. + +Jacobs argues, that if abduction experiences are internally generated, +"We would expect abductees to claim that communication that takes place +with aliens is widespread and deeply searching. As with the contactees +reports or channeled information, we would know about where the aliens +came from, what their planets were like, why they were here... and so +forth. In fact, abduction accounts contain no such information. We know +nothing about the aliens" home environment. We do not even know if they +have a home environment. We have no knowledge about the aliens" lives +outside the UFO."64 + +If my hypotheses are correct, the enigmatic and generic surface +narrative may be a sort of cosmic allegory woven of several metaphors +which become the classic elements of UFO lore. As the lore crystalizes, +the manifestations become more tangible, yet always just as enigmatic, +and in this way, guaranteeing our continued attention. Abductions +represent the most advanced narrative featuring highly evolved symbols. +If the "aliens" are merely actors upon our co-created stage, their +specific purpose may not need the support of a background narrative to +be effective messengers of a story we have written, but which beckons +from a realm of symbols, metaphor, and even puns. + +Look again at how various aspects of the abduction experience could be +metaphorical reflections of the anxieties humankind is now experiencing +as we approach the year 2000: + +Abductees are floated through a closed window - fear of losing the +security of the Newtonian-Cartesian reality. + +People are abducted by technologically advance but emotionless aliens - +fear of runaway technology that is alien to us and controlled by +dehumanized technocrats. + +Abductees are involved in a narrative about a breeding program run by +generic looking, emotionless aliens - fear for the future of our +prodigy and a warning about the dehumanizing effect of modern culture. + +Abductees are forced to endure frightening examinations and experiments +by nearly faceless aliens - fear of runaway medical practices advanced +by "faceless" practitioners. + +Mindscan - fear of the loss of individuality and fear of the loss of +free thought. + +Visualization, Media display - fear of ecological and other worldwide +disasters. + +Mindscan, Imaging, Envisioning, Staging, Media Display - fear of +fascist regimes, Big Brother. + +If my hypotheses are correct, collective humankind has created proxies +to act as the facilitators of our repressed anxiety and fear of +transcendence - facilitators needed to counter the effect of the +hypnotic effect of enculturation. An alien was asked by an abductee, +"Do you sleep?" It said, "We are always sleeping." Clearly, our +manifestations tell us they ultimately spring forth from our collective +unconscious. It is we who must wake up from our collective sleep. + +Dr. Jacobs argues, "We would expect that the totality of the events +would remain permanently random (if the experiences were purely +subjective), without the congruence and richness of detail that +characterize abduction accounts. In fact, we find many accounts to be +so precisely similar that, in order to match other random, internally +generated accounts, the abductees would have to be not only extremely +well versed in published abduction literature, they would also have to +know the minutiae of events that have never been published in the +literature and, indeed, that even most abduction researchers are +unaware of."65 + +Perhaps Dr. Jacobs puts the horse before the cart. If humankind has +collectively manifested a grand metanormal allegory, all humankind who +individually experience them would experience the same metaphors which +make up the abduction narrative. + +Until now, no alternative hypothesis has emerged that takes into +account the totality of the data in UFO and related experience. I +believe that together, my hypotheses address most aspects of this grand +enigma and also address the overall convergence of data. + +On the surface, an allegory must work as a real story, but contain +enough absurdity to hint that the important message lies below the +narrative structure. If we examine each mental procedure, such as +Staging (the alien theatre), or Testing (where abductees are given a +test s/he is not prepared for), it seems obvious that we are being +examined by real aliens. But think. How many people do these "aliens" +need to test before they understand our psycho-sociological makeup? +Thousands? Millions? Many million? + +En masse, these procedures make more sense as an initiatory experience. +A story-line apparently real, but in fact allegorical. We are being +faced with ourselves. In the new world-culture paradigm, after gaining +"the spirit of the mystics", after becoming aware of our connection to +all that is, there can no longer be any denial. Rationalizations will +no longer sustain us. We must see ourselves as we are - missing our +ideals - straying from compassion - becoming alien to ourselves. +Abductees follow in the path of mystics, saints, and those who have +suddenly transcended into a new consciousness before. These people are +the forerunners of a new kind of human being. + +In summation: + +1. All things are connected on some level. The concept of panpsychic +interactionism "...integrates data from various scientific fields to +suggest that our human capacity for development arises from a +creativity present throughout the universe [and it] highlights evidence +that entities operating at different levels, from subatomic events to +human activity, prehend or contact one another in a mutually formative +manner."66 The holographic paradigm supports panpsychic interactionism +with modern scientific research. + +2. Through panpsychic interactionism all humankind (at least) +communicate, if on a pre-cognitive level. Therefore, common symbols are +shared. For the first time in history, common symbols are also shared +en masse through mundane means such as mass communications. + +3. Through mundane means and panpsychism collective humankind has +become intimately aware of (if on a pre-cognitive level) the severe +threats to its survival. This comes at a time when old institutions and +mythologies have failed to provide meaning for our lives. + +4. A threshold is surpassed. Through panpsychism, there is a collective +calling forth of metanormal abilities normally latent in the +individual. A simi-real realm populated by simi-real denizens is +manifested to express our collective anxieties. The structure of the +most advanced form of the manifestation is an elaborate allegorical +narrative called the abduction experience. This allegory is constructed +of a string of metaphorical events, each representing a specific +grouping of fears and anxieties. The allegory works on many levels, +from the appearance of the "aliens" to the specific motifs presented. + +5. The abduction experience works as an initiation which facilitates +bringing a new world-culture consciousness to the individual. The core +of the emerging world-culture has been called "the spirit of the +mystics". This new awareness re- awakens love of life and all creation, +a feeling of connection to all that is and an urge to take action for +the good of all. Therefore, the "aliens", by way of the abduction +experience, are heralding a moment of human transcendence. This +transcendence in awareness can be compared with the move from +adolescence to adulthood. The experience also blatantly points out +humankind"s potential for the transcendence of what has been normal +functioning. + + +If the abduction experience is indeed escalating in incidence at this +time, as data seems to show, it is because if a greater life is +possible for the human race, its permanent establishment is far from +guaranteed. Nuclear war (note the proliferation of nuclear weapons +among Third World countries and Russia's continued instability), +ecological disaster, social upheaval and other possible catastrophes +could so diminish life on earth that the chance of further social and +spiritual progress would be slim at best. Human evolution is not +automatically progressive. + +For every species that exists today, perhaps thousands have passed +away. There is no guarantee that modern societies -or even the human +species itself - will last long enough to collectively come to the +consciousness heralded by the "aliens". Indeed, our chronic depravity +has led some thinkers to suppose that humans have already evolved in a +fatal direction. + +Michael Murphy quotes Arthur Koestler: + + The evidence from man's past record and from + contemporary brain research strongly suggests that at + some point during the last explosive stages of the + biological evolution of homo sapiens something went + wrong; that there is a flaw, some potentially fatal + engineering error built into our native equipment - + more specifically, into the circuits of our nervous + system - which would account for the streak of paranoia + running through our history. This is the hideous but + plausible hypothesis which any serious inquiry into + man's condition has to face.67 + +Murphy goes on to write: "...most psychologists and medical researchers +- like most philosophers and religious seers - agree that with our +capacities for love, knowledge, and further development, we have +profound disabilities, whether these are caused by our genes or +cultural conditioning. Indeed, most programs for human betterment +address our shortcomings, either directly or indirectly, by therapeutic +intervention, psychosomatic education, ethical training, religious +discipline, or the reconstruction of social institution."68 + +I submit that Murphy's enumeration of the therapeutic measures taken to +counteract "profound disabilities" is exactly what is going on in the +abduction experience. The "logical absurdity" of the surface narrative +cross-circuits the rational mind so that the sub-strata, symbolic +therapy can do its work directly on one's soul. First influence the +soul; the mind will follow. + +This moment of transcendence may be nothing less than humankind moving +out of a collective adolescence. Fighting, selfishness, refusal of +responsibility and denial will lead us to our doom in these times of +vast technological power. If one reads the material presented in +Jacob's book, the complexity of these experiences adds to, rather than +detracts from, the hypothesis that these are symbolic motifs. + +Unless we awaken to the consequences of the path we have either chosen +or allowed, and unless we decide to take personal responsibility for +changing the status quo, we may face a continued depreciation of life +by depredation, or even inhalation. Ironically, even if we do come to +the realization heralded by our "alien" alter egos, reality as we know +it will still end, for we will remake our world in the image of our new +understanding. + + + Yet I am the necessary angel of + earth, + Since, in my sight, you see the + earth again ... + + -Wallace Stevens69 + + NOTES + +1. David M. Jacobs, Ph.D., Secret Life: Firsthand Accounts of UFO + Abductions (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1992), P. 309. +2. Budd Hopkins, David Jacobs, Ph.D., Ron Westrum, Ph.D., Unusual + Personal Experiences: An Analysis of the Data From Three National + Surveys Conducted by the Roper Organization (Las Vegas: Bigelow + Holding Corporation. 1992), P. 15. +3. "Fund Report: 1992: The UFO Year in Review," MUFON UFO Journal, No. + 298, February 1993, P. 11, Col. 2. +4. The word "metanormal" is a term suggested by George Leonard (The + Silent Pulse) and is used by Michael Murphy (The Future of the + Body) to mean human functioning that in some respect radically + surpasses the functioning typical of most people living today. +5. See note 2. +6. Jacques Vallee, Ph.D., Confrontations: A Scientist's Search for + Alien Contact (New York: Ballantine Books, 1990), PP. 99-100. +7. Carl Gustav Jung, Ph.D., Memories, Dreams, Reflections (New York: + Pantheon Books, 5th printing, 1963), P. 212. +8. For an exhaustive survey, see: Michael Murphy, The Future of the + Body: Explorations Into the Further Evolution of Human Nature (Los + Angeles: Jeremy P. Tarcher, Inc., 1992). +9. Ibid., P. 214. +10. Ibid., P. 182. +11. Jacobs, P. 45. +12. Ibid., P. 306. +13. Ibid., P. 329. +14. Revelations: Alien Contact and Human Deception (New York: + Ballantine Books, 1991), PP. 56-57. +15. Confrontations, PP. 176-177. +16. "Are They Coming For Us?" Parade, March 7, 1993, PP. 4-7. +17. Vallee, The Invisible College: What a Group of Scientists Has + Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race (New York: E.P. + dutton, 1975), PP. 116-117. +18. Dimensions: A Casebook of Alien Contact (Chicago: Contemporary + Books, 1988), P. 276. +19. The Invisible College, P. 2. +20. Dimensions, P. 274. "The controversial work of psychologist B.F. + Skinner has shown under what conditions an organism reacting to an + external phenomenon learns a new behavior. We also know under what + conditions this learning is irreversible. These are similar to the + pattern that the UFO phenomenon seems to be followng. ...the best + schedule of reinforcement is one that combines periodicity with + unpredictability. Learning is then slow but continuous. It leads to + the highest level of adaptation. And it is irreversible. It is + interesting to ask whether the pattern of UFO waves does not have + the same effect as a schedule of reinforcement." -The Invisible + College, P. 197. +21. Murphy, P. 15. +22. Ibid., P. 173. +23. Op.cit., PP. 52-61. +24. Ibid., P. 72. +25. Ibid., PP. 77-82, 216, 222. +26. Ibid., P. 123. +27. C.G. Jung termed mythic themes common to all "archetypes of the + collective unconscious". +28. Murphy, PP. 379-380. +29. Ibid., P. 116. +30. Ibid., PP. 183-186. +31. Ibid. +32. Ibid. +33. For a romp through the mysterious world of quantum physics, see + Michael Talbot, The Holographic Universe (New York: Harper Collins + Publishers, 1991). + 34. Murphy, P. 183. +35. Dimensions, PP. 284-289. +36. Joseph Campbell, The Inner Reaches of Outer Space: Metaphor as Myth + and as Religion (New York: Harper and Row, Publishers, Inc., 1986), + PP. 11-23. +37. Murphy, N., P. 308. +38. Campbell, P. 16. +39. Ibid., P. 58. +40. Campbell, P. 55. +41. Dimensions, P. 114. +42. Confrontations, PP. 176-177. +43. Dimensions, P. 158. +44. Campbell, P. 12. +45. Campbell, P. 190. +46. Jung, P. 212. +47. Kieth Thompson, Angels and Aliens: UFOs and the Mythic Imagination + (New York: Addison-Wesley Publishing Company, Inc., 1991), P. 65. +48. Ibid., PP. 42-43. +49. "Are the Aliens Here To Warn of Armageddon?" UFO Universe, May + 1990, PP. 49-51 and 63-65. +50. Campbell, PP. 11-17. +51. Op.cit., PP. 283-304. +52. Ibid., P. 302. +53. Ibid. +54. Murphy, PP. 588-589. PSI: a term proposed by B.P. Wiesner and R.H. + thouless, which can be used as either a noun or adjective, to + signify paranormal process and causation. +55. Jacobs, PP. 107-131. +56. Ibid., P. 96. +57. Ibid., PP. 96-97. +58. Ibid., P. 99. +59. Ibid., P. 136. +60. Ibid., P. 153. +61. Ibid., P. 162. +62. Ibid. +63. Ibid., P. 168. +64. Ibid., P. 302 +65. Ibid. +66. Murphy, P. 195. +67. Murphy, P. 62. +68. Ibid., and P. 63. +69. "Angel Surrounded by Paysans," An Angel A Week (New York: Random + House, Inc., 1992). + + End + ### + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2733.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2733.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..738c3752 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2733.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,208 @@ +SUBJECT: LONG ISLAND CRASH: SON OF ROSWELL? FILE: UFO2733 + + + + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +The following file is courtesy of HUFON REPORT, the newsletter of the +Houston UFO Network. Vol. 4, No. 2, January, 1994. For more +information, call (713) 597-2834. +---------------------------------------------------------------------- + +LONG ISLAND CRASH: Son of Roswell? + +By Larry Byrd + + +The Winter 1994 issue of UFO Universe magazine carried an article on +the South Haven Park UFO crash which took place on November 24, 1992. +It has been a little over a year now since the initial incident +occurred, and the Long Island UFO Network (LIUFON), after extensive +investigation, released some rather startling details. The television +show, Unsolved Mysteries, is scheduled to feature the event in the +near future. This incident seems to be just about the hottest topic +these days, so it seems appropriate that we take a look at what is +known at this time. + +--- + +It was not the first such occurrence in the area. John Ford, of +LIUFON, has indicated that he believes a boomerang-shaped UFO was shot +down in the same general vicinity on September 28, 1989. He has +further stated that he believes there is an adversarial relationship +between extraterrestrials and humans. He indicated that perhaps the +nearby Brookhaven National Laboratory possesses the means to +accomplish such a feat. + +A BNL scientist, whose identity has been withheld, reportedly told Mr. +Ford that we have been in an "adversarial condition" with an +extraterrestrial civilization for the past 5 years. The earlier +confrontation occurred when the forementioned boomerang craft was +intercepted and brought down in Moriches Bay. One family reported +witnessing a blue-white light pulsating in the dunes. LIUFON believes +that this was a plasma field, generated by the charging of an +electronic weapon using superconductors and carried by the Stealth +bomber. + +Helicopters apparently engaged the object, bringing it into the narrow +range of the weapon, while a "fake air-sea rescue operation" was +staged by the Coast Guard to cover up the covert activity. We are told +that this unique weapon was used because conventional weapons cannot +penetrate the intense plasma field that the aliens surround themselves +with. The device supposedly "scrambled the propulsion drive" of the +object, causing it to crash into the shallow water, killing 18 alien +beings. William Floyd Parkway was closed down at that time so that a +military convoy of flatbed trucks could transport the wreckage and +bodies to BNL where, it has been said, it is still undergoing testing. + +Mona Rowe, a spokesperson for BNL, after reading Mr. Ford's report, +said. "We didn't shoot down a UFO on the night of September 28th," and +added that their Star Wars expert stated that BNL does not have the +equipment to connect a superconductor to a high intensity laser as +described by Ford. She also said that she did see the lights in the +sky on that date while returning home from an amateur orchestra +rehearsal in Shoreham. "I think it's amazing that I had actually seen +this myself," she said. "To me they looked like flares, but maybe my +perception is colored by the fact that I work in a very +scientifically-minded environment. Basically, people believe what they +would like to believe." + +An individual we will call Ellis says, "I moved to Long island just +prior to the first sighting and lived a few blocks from the water +where supposedly a UFO crashed into the bay. I didn't see it but was +experiencing an enormous amount of weirdness at the time. I contacted +the LI UFO Net ... He said many had witnessed the crash, but even more +had noted that the object had been retrieved. The authorities had +closed down the William Floyd Parkway for its entire length (this 4 +lane highway is the main highway for the middle section of the island +to go from one side to the other. Additionally, it leads directly to +the only ferry off the island from the mid-section, leaving the only +alternatives to get off the island being either end). They transported +the crash remains across the island and then loaded it onto either a +train or a boat. Employees of Brookhaven National Lab (Its main gate +is also on the parkway) were quoted in the paper as saying the only +thing they saw that night were deer. Contrary to the paper, I quizzed +a few of my fellow workers and neighbors who were out that night and +sure enough the road did get closed with no reasons given. +Additionally, I managed to run into a few lab employees who also +grumbled about not only the road being closed but of a rather strange +convoy going by. It was strange in that it was extremely lit up but +everything was covered. This in itself is not necessarily unusual, but +the convoy did not go either to or from the lab." + +Moving forward in time, we have an abundance of eye-witness reports +and information gleaned through the investigative efforts of LIUFON +investigators, who were harassed and intimidated by authorities. On +Saturday, January 9, 1993, John Ford, Brian Levins and Andrew Cerceoni +were stopped and detained by Suffolk County Police, fifth precinct car +#522. The officers refused to identify themselves, but one of them +wore shield number 3453. The investigators were questioned about the +distribution of flyers concerning the South Haven Park UFO incident. +Ford said, "The officer told us point blank, 'I'm here because you +people are handing out this garbage. Because you're scaring people and +causing panic.' The police said if they continued to do so they would +be back to harass us." The incident has been reported on Suffolk +County Police blotter number 93-13373 at Suffolk County Police +Headquarters at Yaphank, New York. LIUFON does plan to continue their +investigations. + +At 7 pm. on November 23rd, 17 year-old Mike P. witnessed a forma- tion +of four very bright white lights making a triangular movement over the +park at high altitude. He could determine no visible structure behind +the lights and no engine sounds as the objects passed over his car +which was parked on Gerard Avenue. + +On the night of November 24th, a man was driving through South Haven +Park, adjoining North Shirley, Long Island, which covers several +thousand acres and is bordered by two communities of approximately +12,000 people each. A large, blue-white object began to pace his auto +at about fifty feet above the ground. Suddenly the object increased +velocity and made a right-angle turn in front of his vehicle, crossing +the highway. Shortly afterward the object hit the ground in the wooded +area of the park. The man stopped his car and observed a glowing light +coming from the wooded area which appeared similar to a fire. There +was also a bright beam of light shining skyward. Another vehicle +stopped and the driver asked the first man if he saw the object go +down. He replied "yes," and the second man said it was a UFO. The +first man indicated he thought it might have been some type of test +aircraft, and the exchange ended. He went home. picked up a friend and +returned to the park to find it entirely sealed off by Military and +State Police officers. Undaunted, he tried to find a back entrance, +but every possible access was sealed, blocked and guarded. + +Drivers were diverted around the park, some being required to go con- +siderable distances out of their way. There were many witnesses +telling their own versions of the event. There were reports of fire +trucks and large flatbed trucks in the park, but when contacted the +fire department maintained that there hadn't been a fire in the park +for over 10 years. Nonetheless, the LIUFON team found fire tape and +orange cones clearly belonging to the fire department. The road into +the park had been widened and showed deep tracks, as if something +heavy had been carried over the soft ground. A mile's length of the +fence surrounding the park near where the object supposedly impacted +was found to be degaussed. + +A female witness has stated that on the night of the UFO crash she was +stopped at the intersection of Victory Blvd. and Gerard Ave., while +proceeding in an easterly direction on Victory, due to the presence of +a Suffolk County Police roadblock. She was offered the explanation +that there had been an accident in the park and it was closed. On her +return from her shopping trip, she attempted to travel north on +William Ford Parkway by making a left-hand turn onto Victory Blvd., +also finding it blocked at the intersection of William Ford Parkway. + +A teenage witness reported that on the day after the event he and a +group of friends were denied access to the park by Suffolk County +Police. prohibiting them from riding their bicycles in the park due to +an accident on the park grounds. The police officers at the gate +offered no further explanation. Another 16 year old witness who lives +on Gerard Avenue tells of two close schoolmates who were traveling +westbound on Sunrise Highway the night of the incident and saw the +object impact in the park. + +Additional witnesses in the area of Gerard Ave. have reported bizarre +electromagnetic pulses affecting digital clock readouts and VCRs for +two to three days following the incident. Video tapes have been +rendered blank, power surges along the lines, a blackout for an hour +in the Gerard Ave. area the night of the occurrence, telephones +ringing with nobody at the other end and ringing even though the +receiver was off the hook. + +The Reverend K.S. reported that at 7 p.m. on Tuesday, November 29th. +his 1990 Mercury Marquis sedan burst into flames in his driveway while +the car was trying to start itself. Yaphank Fire Department was called +as was the Suffolk County Police, both of which reported the incident +as an accidental electrical fire. The Reverend is convinced it was a +case of arson. LIUFON investigators do not concur with either theory, +as the reports indicate there may have been latent electromagnetic +pulse effect damage to the car's electronic ignition or computer. + +There have been abundant reports of frequent unmarked helicopter over- +flights for days following the event. + +An anonymous defense department analyst has provided segments of a +government video tape which reportedly show the retrieval of some of +the wreckage from this crash site. Investigators have carefully exam- +ined the tape and have concluded that in some segments the presence of +extraterrestrial bodies can be seen. Furthermore, two of them appear +to be standing upright and turning their heads, which would indicate +that there were alien survivors of the crash. This film will be +undergoing technical analysis, and we will report the results when and +if they are made available. The analyst who provided the film is +reportedly an abductee, known to Budd Hopkins. The government +apparently made quite a mistake in allowing this individual access to +the film. Is Hopkins working on this case as well? + +--- + +Thanks are gratefully offered to Jeff Brewi, Mark Butler, Mike +Christol, Jeff Miller and Mike Sullivan for their input. + + +** End ** + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2734.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2734.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c3a0a94a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2734.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,251 @@ +SUBJECT: LONG ISLAND U.F.O. NETWOARK FILE: UFO2734 + + + + +Here is the first official press release from LIUFON regarding the alleged +crash of a UFO on Nov. 24, 1993. + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + LONG ISLAND U.F.O. NETWORK, INC. + + A Non-Profit Research Organization + + P.O. BOX 1692 + Riverhead, New York 11901 + HOTLINE: (516) 286-3212 + + *** PRESS RELEASE *** PRESS RELEASE *** PRESS RELEASE *** + + IMMEDITATE COPY !!! + + + The Long Island U.F.O. Network, a five year old non-profit +organization which investigates U.F.O. phenomena, announces to the +metropolitan, national and international press community that it has +evidence that on November 24, 1992 at 7:12 P.M. an alien spacecraft +crashed near the area of South Haven Park in Suffolk County near the +residential communities of Shirley and Yaphank, Long Island, New York. + + The event which has been under continuous investigation for six months +by the investigative division of the Long Island U.F.O. Network was first +reported to LIUFON"s U.F.O. Hotline on December 13, 1992 by a Mr. W..... K...... +of Mastic Beach, Long Island who witnessed the alien craft to impact in woods +near South Haven Park along Gerard Road which borders the Western edge of the +park. (I have withheld the name of the witness at this time, although John Ford +included it. If events warrent it, I may release his name at a later date. +MC.) + + Mr. K...... reported that he was driving East bound on Sunrise +Highway while returning home from work around 7:00 P.M. that evening +when he noticed to the South of the highway over trees which separates Sunrise +from Montauk Highway an unusual object which he described as tubular in shape +with two large bright blue lights on each end with a bright white light in its +center whose structure was composed of a dull metallic grey texture, to +immediately execute a right angle turn and tumble end over end into woods to the +North side of the highway. Mr. K...... pulled over to the right shoulder and +exited his vehicle in time to see the object impact to the North West. Upon +impact, the object emitted a powerful white beam of light which shot up into the +sky and turned the night sky into daylight. As several other motorists joined +him, Mr K...... reported the light to subside into an amber glow which indicated +a fire in progress in the wooded area. + + Mr. K...... proceeded to leave the area convinced he had seen a +UFO crash. As he neared the exit for William Floyd Parkway (exit 56) he +reported observing a formation of four large military helicopters on a course +from the South East headed for the impact zone over South Haven Park; these +helicopters which were painted black with no visible markings arrived within +minutes of the object's crash. Mr. K...... reported that there was a military +roadblock on William Floyd parkway with civilian traffic being detoured from +proceeding West onto Sunrise Highway. He noticed that the military personnel +were dressed in black jump suits and the vehicles showed no markings. The side +streets of Beatrice, Dawn and Sunset were blocked by additional military +personnel. At one point five New York State Police cars were turned back from +entering the area (even though the State Police at the West Hampton Barracks +deny this event, a confidential source from that unit has convirmed the story). + + Mr. K...... was able at this point to travel West on Victory Blvd. +(which was later blacked off at 7:35 P.M. which was confirmed by a young +mother of two who was denied use of East bound travel on that road) and +traveled up Gerard Road to the second bend in the road where he found a +large fire in progress some 300 yards back in the woods which was burning +fiercely with a strong odor of burnt insulation in the air. Mr. K...... +said he could see the flames licking the top of trees in the confines +of the park. + + LIUFON has also received a report from a second eyewitness motorist, +a B.. H....... of Brookhaven Hamlet ( again I am withholding the name), who +was traveling East bound on Sunrise when he was about 1/2 mile before the +Horseblock Road exit of that thoroughfare at 7:15 P.M. when he observed an oval +shaped object pass to the North of the Brookhaven Town Dumb garbage mountain on +a descending course 30 degrees to the horizon which was leaving a green +ionization trail as it passed. He reported this object to be to the North of +Sunrise and was not any conventional aircraft. It resembles objects reported +over Islip Town which were seen on the Channel 12 News in March 1992 at the +Bagatelle Road Exit of the Long Island Expressway. + + The witness in this sighting did not observe the object impact into +the park, but did observe an unusual ojbect around the time of the UFO +crash in South Haven Park. The time reference puts it in perspective of the +time frame of the South Haven Park incident. + + The Long Island U.F.O. Network has been investigating this case since +December 1992 when it first received these reports. Its investigation +has revealed the following: + +(1) LIUFON has done extensive aerial reconnaissance over the park and its +surrounding areas which has revealed evidence of extensive vehicular traffic +in the North West section of the park's fire roads and fields. + +(2) LIUFON has contacted all Federal, State and local agencies including +local Fire Departments which would have been involved in this incident only to +be informed that there exists no record of any incident occurring on the night +of November 24, 1992. This includes the Suffolk Police, State Police +and Fire Rescue in Yaphank. Park Officials informed LIUFON that there has not +been a fire in South Haven Park in two to ten years. The fire departments of +Yaphank, Mastic-Shirley and Brookhaven Hamlet have failed to +answer LIUFON's FOIA requests. + +(3) Residents along River Road reported observing Fire trucks entering the +park that night. + +(4) LIUFON retrieved Fire Department equipment from the main fire road in the +park on December 20th, 1992 which has been identified as being similar to +equipment used by Brookhaven Hamlet Fire Department. + +(5) LIUFON has received confirmation from a Brookhaven Hamlet Fire Department +source that their department was indeed there that night to put out fires that +were caused by something which fell out of the sky and they are prohibited from +speaking about due to Federal Government orders. + +(6) There was a County Wide Alert sounded by the Suffolk County Police that +night that a UFO had crashed near William Floyd Parkway and for all units to use +land lines to receive instructions for emergency mobilization. + +(7) The Park itself was closed for several days after the crash. County +officials at first denied this, but later informed the editor of the South +Shore Press in Mastic Beach that it was closed for duck hunting season. +Residents in the area reported Suffolk Police manning road blocks near the park +entrance for days after the incident. + +(8) Residents in the area reported hearing the object crash that night while +others observed the helicopters over the area for hours that night. +Others reported strange electrical problems with the electrical grid, cable +T.V., home appliances burning out months after the incident, car batteries +failing and the telephone system malfunctioning. All phenomena associated +with what would be the result of a massive Electro Magnetic Pulse Effect +occurring in the area. Residents have also reported unusual and frequent +replacement of light bulbs in their homes. + +(9) LIUFON has over the last five months covered by foot every inch of the +3000 acre park. It has discovered that fire roads were widened in the North +West section near the Rifle-Shotgun Range and evidence of heavy construction +equipment were brought in. Areas that are prohibited to vehicular traffic +showed signs of heavy tire marks and fields in the North West area and every +blade of grass flattened due to frequent vehicular activity. Mounds of freshly +chipped trees were discovered near the Gerard Road side of the park which were +found to be slightly radioactive. No explanation was offered for this by park +authorities who declined to comment. + +(10) The fencing along both River and Gerard Roads were tested by an +electornics engineer using a portable magnetometer in December and February +for magnetic anomalies. Test results showed that fencing exhibited signs of +reversed magnetic polarity as if exposed to a South Pole magnetic field. + +(11) Elevated levels of radiation were detected in the North West and +Gerard Road areas of the Park which exhibited abnormal background levels of +radiation that came in six second bursts ranging from .05 to as high .3 +mille-reontgens. + +(12) LIUFON Discovered two areas of flattened and broken trees along Gerard +Road. One area over one hundred yards long showed signs of broken and +splintered trees with evidence of a recent fire. Trees in the second area +showed signs of holding a strong magnetic field after testing with a +magnetometer. + +(13) The light from the crashed object was seen by residents in the area as +far north as Ridge and as far West as Bald Hill in Coram. +(14) Residents in the area have been harassed by the Police from talking about +that night. One resident, a pentecostal minister, reported his 1984 +Mercury Marquis sedan bursting into flames when his car attempted to start +itself on December 29, 1992. The minister was later taken into Police custody +and transferred to Stony Brook Pyschiatric when he equated the incident with the +UFO Crash in the Park. He was released when he was allegedly coerced into +signing a statment his car fire had nothing to do +with the UFO crash. He is now suing the Suffolk Police for one billion dollars. + +(15) Numerous residents have reported to LIUFON encountering the military +and Police road blocks that night in the area around the park. + +(16) Over seven various fire departments responded that night to control the +fires from the crash. They were Medford, Coram, Yaphank, Middle Island, +Brookhaven Hamlet, Mt. Sinai and Ridge. In addition, elements of the Brookhaven +National Laboratories Fire Department and Emergency Response Team were +dispatched to the location as the only Fire Department trained to control a +radiological fire on Long Island. In some instances, local fire units were +turned away due to their lack of expertise in radiological fires. +This information was confirmed by the editor of the South Shore Press and +confidential sources known to LIUFON. + +(17) Some sort of fire occurred near Police Headquarters and the County +Correction Farm that night on Yaphank Avenue which may have been linked to the +events in South Haven Park. This is still under investigation at the +moment. + + Three weeks ago LIUFON Chairman John Ford received anonymously a package +in his home mail box which contained a video tape from a Department of Defense +Systems Analyst who lives in Rocky Point, N.Y., purporting to show the recovery +of the wreckage of the South Haven Park UFO from an area +North of the Park. In the tape there are also scenes of the recovery of body +parts and bodies of which it appears to be highly suggestive of humanoid beings +associated with current UFO abduction reports. LIUFON analysis of the tape +under the auspices of Preston Nichols and Alan Green both with LIUFON, has +produced with video enhancement and stop frame analysis photographs of humanoid +beings by way of special filters on 35mm cameras of entities which appear not to +be human, but alien in appearance. + + The tape is from a government source which was confiscated from Fire +Department personnel on the scene. The government analyst who has now contacted +LIUFON and identified himself has agreed to meet with members of NBC's Unsolved +Mysteries and the editor of the South Shore Press to discuss this disturbing +tape. + As of this writing, LIUFON has agreed to withhold circulation of the +tape and photographs of the crash and entities while NBC's Unsolved Mysteries +staff discusses arrangements to bring this story to the American people in a +national broadcast. + + LIUFON reports that it has received information that the wreckage of the +object is currently being stored at Brookhaven National Laboratories for study. +This may also explain recent reports by residents on the South Shore +of continuous black helicopter flights into the labratory area over recent +months. + LIUFON has also come under persistent Suffolk Police harassment as it +attempted to canvass residential areas around the Park. On January 9th, LIUFON +researchers were detained and questioned by Police in an attempt to dissuade +them from distributing literature on the event to residents on Gerard Road. + + On July 5, 1993, LIUFON plans a public protest march to protest the UFO +Cover Up at Hauppauge, L.I. at the H. Lee Dennison Building, administrative +center for the Suffolk County Government. This is in conjunction with the +National Right to Know Committee's rally in Washington, D.C. on that date, +protesting the UFO Cover Up. + +For further information: + +Contact LIUFON at: (516) 286-3212 + +NBC Unsolved Mysteries: +Bob Kiviat: 1-800-421-4519, Ext. 207 + +South Shore Press: + +Editor, Brian Ward: (516) 281-7737 + + +END... + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2735.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2735.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d544ab14 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2735.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,898 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO VIDEO TAPE LIST FILE: UFO2735 + + + +PART 1 + + + Filename: M-Video1.Cat + Type : Catalog + Author : Mike Christol + Date : 11/19/92 + Desc : Mike Christol's Video/Audio Catalig list + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Mike Christol + Space Link BBS + US 502/683-3026 + FidoNet 1:2310/210 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + MIKE CHRISTOL'S UFO VIDEO TAPE LIST + + A-001 - A-100 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The following list of videos are availabale for trade or by donation + from Mike Christol, UFO Investigator. Please leave a message on this + Board. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + A - 001 -- HIDDEN TRUTH: THE UFO STORY - BY: BILL KNELL 120 MIN + + A - 002 -- JOEL MARTIN: LONG ISLAND UFO INVESTIGATIONS + (12/88) 50 MIN. COLOR + + A - 003 -- UFO'S AND THE MYSTERY OF ANIMAL MUTILATIONS: + A Presidential Briefing Paper on UFO'S. + SUMIT UNIVERSITY FORUM - Linda M. Howe + (7/88) 58 MIN COLOR Part # 4 or 5. + + A - 004-a- THE SKELETON-KEY EFFECT: Unlocking The Secrets of Alien + Abductions. SUMIT UNIVERSITY FORUM - + Dr. Bruce Maccabee and Stanton Freidman + (7/88) 58 MIN. COLOR Part # 3 of 5. + -b- INSIDE EDITION: Alabame UFO Sighting - Feb. 21, 1989 + Fyfe, Alabama + + A - 005 -- COMPLETE SUMIT UNIVERSITY FORUM - FIVE PART UFO DISCUSSION: + Speakers: Stanton Friedman; Linda M. Howe; Bruce + Maccabee; Bud Hopkins. Host: Elizabeth Clare + Prophet + + -a- 1. Anatomy of a Cover-up + 2. Abducted by Aliens: The Common Threads Of Experience + 3. Crashed Saucer and Government Cover-up At Roswell: + The Secrets of Operation MJ-12 + 4. UFO'S and The Mystery of Animal Mutilations; + A Presidential Briefing Paper on UFO'S + 5. The Skeleton-Key Effect: Unlocking The Secrets + Of Alien Abductions (7/88) 3 1/2 Hrs. Color + + -b- USA TODAY: Three Part UFO Special (3/17 - 20/89) 15 MIN + + A - 006-a- George Fawcett Lecture and Workshop (3/19 - 20/88) + Aprox. 3 1/2 Hr. Color + -b- Central Weekend - BRITISH T.V.(9/5/86) 45 MIN COLOR + -c- Interviewing The UFO Witness 40 MIN. COLOR + -d- NOVA: THE CASE OF THE UFO (10/12/82) 58 MIN. COLOR + -e- USA TODAY - 2 Parts (3/17 - 20/89) 10 MIN. COLOR + -f- BOB RABY INTERVIEW (Partial) Aprox. 20 MIN. COLOR + + A - 007-a- KMO-TV TOWN MEETING; Seattle, Washington (1982) 50 MIN. + COLOR + -b- UNIDIFIED FLYING OBJECT (1956?) BLACK/WHITE 1HR.28 MIN. + -c- UFO REPORT # 3 - AL FRY Aprox. 2 HR. COLOR + -d- WALT ANDRUS; Director of MUFON: ARKANSAS UFO CONFRENCE + (FEB.,1988) 1 HR. 53 MIN. COLOR + -e- BURKE VIDEO SHOWCASE (5/1/85) 9 MIN. COLOR + + A - 008-a- UFO'S ARE REAL (1987) 1 HR. 33 MIN. COLOR + -b- WHITLEY STREIBER; PEOPLE ARE TALKING (1988) + Aprox 20 MIN. COLOR + + A - 009-a- CONTACT: Eduard Albert "Billy" Meier Case (1982) + 90 MIN. COLOR + -b- GARY COLLINS, HOUR MAGAZINE (11/11/88) APROX. 45 MIN. + COLOR + -c- STRAIGHT TALK: Scott Ross (4/7/89) 45 - 50 MIN. COLOR + + A - 010 -- THE OSCAR JORDAN ABDUCTION CASE (9/28/89) MIKE CHRISTOL; + INVESTIGATOR - 4 1/2 HR. COLOR + + A - 011-a- DOES THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAVE A UFO? 39 MIN (7/18/1988) + -b- LARGE COLLECTION OF UFO FILMS FROM 1950'S - 1980'S + -c- UFO'S AND HOLLYWOOD (7/18/1988) 11 MIN. COLOR + -d- HOW TO GIVE A UFO LECTURE: (Updated Version Jan. 1989) + 3 HRS. 58 MIN. COLOR + -e- ARE UFO ALIENS ALIVE IN NEVADA, USA? 39 MIN. (7/18/1988) + + A - 012-a- HOW TO GIVE A UFO LECTURE IN YOUR HOME TOWN: (7/18/1988) + Part 1. Introduction - "How To Start" - 35 MIN. + Part 2. "The UFO Lecture" - 3 HR. 20 MIN. COLOR + -b- THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF UFO FILMS EVER + 28 MIN. (7/18/1988) COLOR + -c- THE ROSWELL CRASH ( (7/18/1988) 39 MIN. COLOR + + A - 013-a- UFO'S AND THE BIBLE - Rev. Barry H. Downing (10/8-9/88) + 59 MIN. COLOR + -b- GOVERNMENT UFO COVER-UP CONTINUES - Larry Fawcett + (10/8-9/88) 1 HR. 4 MIN. COLOR + -c- BROOMFIELD COLORADO UFO SHOW: UFO's And The Inner Earth + (10/28/1988) 1 HR. COLOR + + A - 014-a- INTRUDERS, THE LATEST RESULTS - BUD HOPKINS + (10/8-9/1988) 1HR. 23 MIN. COLOR + WALLY GEROGE - "ALIENS ON EARTH" - VIDEO DAVE + (2/89) 6 MIN. COLOR + ANATOMY OF AN ALIEN - DAVID JACOBS, PHD + (10/8-9/1988) 1 HR. 36 MIN. COLOR + + A - 015-a- UFO REPORT # 1 (AL FRY) 2HR. 14 MIN. COLOR + -b- UFO: THE BENTWATERS INCIDENT (CNN) (1988) 21 MIN. COLOR + -c- (1) ELIZABETH CLARE PROPHET INTERVIEWS ZECHARIA SITCHIN + ON THE 12TH PLANET (1986) PART # 1. 57 MIN. COLOR + (2) ELIZABETH CLARE PROPHET INTERVIEWS ZECHARIA SITCHIN + ON THE 12TH PLANET (1986) PART # 2. 58 MIN. COLOR + -d- INTERVIEWING THE UFO WITNESS (MICHIGAN MUFON; DAN WRIGHT) + 40 MIN. COLOR + -e- CALL RAIFORD; GEORGE FAWCETT (CHARLOTTE TV 36) + (10/6/1985) 49 MIN. COLOR + -f- CAROLINA CAMERA (TV Interview With George Fawcett) + (7/22/1981) 5 MIN. COLOR + -g- ROUTE # 9; GEORGE FAWCETT (LINCOLNTON, North Carolina) + 5 MIN. COLOR + + A - 016-a- UFO: TOP SECRET (1986) 1 HR. 36 MIN. COLOR + -b- THE COSMIC CONSPIRACY (19 ) 47 MIN. COLOR + -c- THE TRUTH ABOUT UFO'S & E.T. (1982) 1 HR. 22 MIN. COLOR. + -d- MYSTERIES OF THE GODS: WILLIAM SHATNER + (1976) 1 HR. 27 MIN. COLOR + -e- A STRANGE HARVEST: LINDA M. HOWE (1980) 52 MIN. COLOR. + + A - 016-a- UFO: TOP SECRET (1986) 1 HR. 36 MIN. COLOR + -b- THE COSMIC CONSPIRACY (19 ) 47 MIN. COLOR + -c- THE TRUTH ABOUT UFO'S & E.T. (1982) 1 HR. 22 MIN. COLOR. + -d- MYSTERIES OF THE GODS: WILLIAM SHATNER + (1976) 1 HR. 27 MIN. COLOR + -e- A STRANGE HARVEST: LINDA M. HOWE (1980) 52 MIN. COLOR. + + A - 017-a- A STRANGE HARVEST - Linda M. Howe (1980) 60 MIN. COLOR + -b- THAT'S INCREDIBLE : VAL JOHNSON UFO/AUTO COLLISION + 15 MIN. (2/4/1977) COLOR + + A - 018-a- UFOLOGY: AT THE TURNING POINT - William Moore; Bud + Hopkins; Stanton Friedman (1989) 2 HRS. COLOR + -b- HIGHLIGHTS OF THE 1988 ARKANSAS UFO CONFRENCE: COLOR + EUREKA SPRINGS, ARK. (4/25-26/1988) APRROX 4 HRS. + -c- VIDEO OF UFO IN JAPAN (7/8/89) APROX. 1 MIN. COLOR + + A - 019-a- CHARIOTS OF THE GODS 1 HR. 25 MIN. COLOR + -b- MYSTERIES FROM BEYOND EARTH 1 HR. 34 MIN. COLOR + -c- BOB RABY INTERVIEW (1/9/1988) 1HR. 43 MIN. COLOR + -d- PSYCHIC PHENOMENON: The World Beyond; J. Allen Hynek + (2 Programs) 75 MIN. COLOR + -e- 5 P.M. MAGAZINE: John Lear and Bill Moore + + A - 020-a- THE UFO EXPERIENCE 1 HR. 49 MIN. COLOR + -b- UFO SYNDROME 1 HR. 35 MIN. COLOR + -c- LLOYD ARNOLD INTERVIEW BY KEN DEMARY (DENVER, COL) + (7/10/1988) 1HR. 32 MIN. COLOR + -d- BOB RABY INTERVIEW (8/9/1987) 25-28 MIN. COLOR + -e- PRESONAL MESSAGE FROM DANNY BARGER - TO MIKE CHRISTOL + LINCOLNTON, N.C. (7/89) 15 MIN. COLOR. + -f- MORE FROM TOWN MEETING, (1987) (60 MIN. MINUS) COLOR + + A - 021-a- UFO CONTACT SEMINAR - Billy Meier Story + LECTURER: Randy Winters (11/14/1987) + APROX. 2 HRS. COLOR + -b- THE FORCE BEYOND (1981) 1 HR. 26 MIN. COLOR + -c- UFO'S, WHAT'S GOING ON? (HBO) (1985) 58 MIN. COLOR + + A - 022 -- DOWNSTATE NEW YORK MUFON UFO CONFRENCE (6/3/1989) + DR. GARY LEVINE, BILL KNELL, BUD HOPKINS + ANTONIO HUNEEUS. 1 HR. 50 MIN. COLOR + + A - 023-a- LONG ISLAND UFO'S + -b- WESTCHESTER & NYC UFO ENCOUNTERS + -c- INTERVIEWING THE WITHESS (MICHIGAN MUFON; DAN WRIGHT) + 40 MIN. COLOR + + A - 024-a- CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE 4TH KIND IN NY & CT: COLOR + PHILLIP IMBROGNO (10/8-9/1988) 1 HR. 12 MIN. + -b- BEYOND CLEAR INTENT: LARRY FAWCETT (10/8-9/1988) + 1 HR. 4 MIN. COLOR + -c- FAMOUS UFO PHOTOS: BRUCE MACCABEE (10/8-9/1988) + 55 MIN. COLOR + -d- MY ABDUCTION BY ET'S: DEBRA TOMEY (KATHEY DAVIS) + (10/8-9/1988) 30 MIN. COLOR + + A - 025 U.F.O. CHRONICLE: ANTONIO HUNEEUS (1989) + 2 HR. 20 MIN. COLOR + -b- CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO'S; LARRY BRYANT + (8/29/1989) 7 MIN. COLOR + -c- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: UFO CRASH AT ROSWELL, N.M. + (9/20/1989) 23 MIN. COLOR + -d- THE JOAN RIVERS SHOW: PEOPLE WHO SEE UFO'S + (12/7/1989) 25 MIN. COLOR + -e- CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO'S Aprox. 10 min. COLOR 1/90 + -f- INSIDE EDITION: UFO'S Aprox. 10 min. COLOR 3/5/90 + -g- CURRENT AFFAIR: "ED WALTERS INTERVIEW" + (3/16/90) 9 MIN., COLOR + -h- "TONGUES OF MEN AND ANGELS." INSTITUTE OF NOETIC + SCIENCES - ARTHUR HASTINGS, SPEAKER + The Phenomena of Channeling. + (1987) 60 Min. COLOR + -i- HARD COPY: ED WALTERS - GULF BREEZE, FL. + (4/28/90) 10 MIN. COLOR + -j- THE STORY BEHIND THE STORY: "THE ZEBRUTTER FILMS; + THE KENEDY ASASSINATION" + (5/13/90) 20 MIN. COLOR/BLACK AND WHITE. + -k- CNN NEWS - SONYA: DR. JACQUES VALLEE - UFO'S. + (5/18/90) 20 MIN. COLOR. + -l- HARD COPY - J.F.K ASASSINATION (5/21/90) 9 MIN. COLOR. + + A - 026 -- LET'S LEARN BASIC UFO INVESTIGATION (1989) + Written and Narrated by Bill Knell + 90 MIN. COLOR + + A - 027 -- THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT: + Preston Nichols, Alfred Bialek, and Duncan Cameron. + (IMPROMPTU LECTURE/QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH + SLIDES) (1989) 3 HRS. 20 MIN. COLOR + + A - 028 -- INSIDE REPORT: + -a- CATTLE MUTILATIONS AND UFO'S + -b- OGGO POGO MONSTER IN CANADIAN LAKE + -c- BIG FOOT CHASER + -d- INVASION UFO: (MOVIE WHICH FOLLOWS ALONG THE LINES + OF ALTERNATIVE 003) + + A - 029-a- "UFO'S THE BEST EVIDENCE: (11/89) GEORGE KNAPP + (KLAS TV, LAS VEGAS, NEV.) INCLUDES INTERVIEW + WITH ROBERT LAZAR AND AREA 51 AT GROOM LAKE + 1 HR. 35 MIN. COLOR + -b- VIDEO TAPING OF REAL ET? + -c- HARD COPY: GOVERNMENT COVERUP + -d- "BEST EVIDENCE" HIGHLIGHTS + + A - 030-a- UFO SPECIAL: "THE BEST EVIDENCE" (11/89) GEORGE KNAPP + (KLAS TV, LAS VEGAS, NEV) INCLUDES INTERVIEW + WITH ROBERT LAZAR AND AREA 51 AT GROOM LAKE + (FIRST COUPLE MINUTES MISSING) 1 HR. 33 MIN COLOR + -b- PLEADIAN CONNECTION: RANDY WINTERS ON BILLY MEIER. + (1989) 1 HR. 30 MIN. COLOR + -c- SCIENCE REPORT (BRITISH TV): REPORT ON ALTERNATIVE 003 + (POOR CONDITION, BUT VIEWABLE, SOUND FAIR TO GOOD) + (JUNE 20, 1977) 51 MIN. + -d- THE JUPITER MENACE: DEALS WITH ALIGNMENT OF PLANETS AND + EARTH CHANGES COLOR + + A - 031-a- LLOYD ARNOLD INTERVIEW: UFO CONTACTS AND PSYCHIC + PHENOMENA; FIRST SIGHTING 1915 (SUMER 1988) + 1 HR. 32 MIN. COLOR + -b- UFO INTERVIEW: LLOYD ARNOLD AND KEN DEMARY; CHANNEL 10 + BROOMFIELD, COL. (1988) 1 HR. COLOR + -c- DENVER UFO SOCIETY; KEN DEMARY, CHANEL 10: INNER EARTH + 1 HR. COLOR + -d- DENVER UFO SOCIETY: GUEST SPEAKERS; MARY LYNN NOBLE + AND ROBERT ACHZEHNU; ABDUCTIONS (9/23/1988) + 2 HR. COLOR + -e- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES; ABDUCTION AND MISSING TIME AT + CAPE COD, MASS. (11/30/88) 23 MIN. COLOR + + A -032 -- 1989 MUFON INTERNATIONAL UFO SYMPOSIUM - JUNE 30 - JULY + 1 & 2 LAS VEGAS, NEVADA TAPE # 1 OF 2 + -a- JOHN LEAR COLOR + -b- BILL COOPER COLOR + -c- BILL ENGLISH COLOR + -d- DON ECKERT COLOR + + + A -033 -- 1989 MUFON INTERNATIONAL UFO SYMPOSIUM - JUNE 30 - JULY + 1 & 2 LAS VEGAS, NEVADA TAPE # 2 OF 2 + -a- STANTON T. FRIEDMAN - 1 HR 07 MIN COLOR + -b- WILLIAM L. MOORE - 1 HR 56 MIN COLDR + -c- JACQUES VALLEE - 57 MIN COLOR + -d- JOHN E. BRANDENBURG - 1 HR 18 MIN COLOR + -e- PANEL DISCUSSION; Q/A 51 MIN COLOR + + A -034 -a- UNEXPLAINED MYSTERIES: GULF BREEZE, FLA. UFO REPORT + (1-5-1988) 15 MIN. COLOR + -b- UFO COVER-UP LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. + (10-14-1988) 1 HR. 31 MIN. COLOR + -c- INCREDIBLE SUNDAY: MIB'S (MEN IN BLACK) + JOHN KEEL, BETTY LUCA (5-14-1989) 7 MIN COLOR + + A -035 -a- CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO'S; LARRY BRIANT + (8-29-1989) 7 MIN COLOR + -b- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (SEASON PREMIER) + "ALMOST TOMORROW; The Second Wave" + (12-1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -c- A CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO LANDING IN RUSSIAN PARK + MICHAEL C. LUCKMAN - DIR., N.Y. CENTER FOR + UFO RESEARCH (12-1989) 10 MIN. COLOR + -d- A CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO SIGHTING IN CENTERVILLE, + IOWA; CAROL DRAKE, RESIDENT + (12-1989) 5 MIN. COLOR + -e- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 2) + "NO DIRECTION HOME" + (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -f- CBS NEWS REPORT: RUSSIAN UFO LANDING + (12-1989) 1 MIN 15 SEC. COLOR + -g- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 3) + "DOOMSDAY" (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -h- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: TEXAS GHOST LIGHTS + (10-25-1989) 9 MIN COLOR + -i- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 4) + "TERMINAL ROCK" + (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -j- THE COUSTEAU ODYSSEY: "CALPSO'S SEARCH FOR + ATLANTAS - PART # 1 + (1978) 1 HR. COLOR + -k- A CURRENT AFFAIR : TRIBUTE TO ELVIS'S VISION + OF MUSIC VIDEOS - IMPERSONATOR PERFORMS + BRUCE SPRINGSTEIN'S - "I'M ON FIRE" + (12-1989) 2 MIN 45 SEC. COLOR + -l- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 5) + "BREEDING GROUND" (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -m- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 6) + "SEFT OF EMUN" (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + + A -036 --- UFO'S WHAT'S GOING ON - HBO (1985) 58 MIN COLOR + + A -037 -a- PHIL DONAHU SHOW - UFO'S AND TRANCE CHANNELING + WHITLEY STRIEBER, JOYCE DEWITT, + RICHARD LAVELIN & BRIAN O'LEARY + (1988?) 45 MIN. COLOR + -b- THE UNEXPLAINED: UFO'S - WFIE-TV CHANNEL 14 EVANSVILLE, IN + Francis Ridge - MUFON ST. DIRECTOR FOR INDIANA + Video taken at Corydon, In., in Aug. 1987. + (2/15/1989) 2 Min. Color + + A -038 --- 34 VARIOUS UFO PROGRAMS FROM 1 MIN TO 49 MIN. DURATION + STORIES INCLUDE: CHARLES HICKSON; WENDELLE + STEVENS; J. ALLEN HYNEK; BUD HOPKINS, ETC. ETC. + (19?? - 1989) 6 HR. COLOR + + A -039 -a- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 1 (DEC 5 - 6 -1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -b- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 2 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -c- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 3 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -d- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 4 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -e- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 5 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -f- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 6 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + + A -040 -a- J. RANDOLPY WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 7 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + COMPLETE PROGRAM: 14 HR. WORK BOOK AVAILABLE + BUT NOT INCLUDED. INQUIRE IF INTERESTED. + ===================================================== + -b- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS "UFO 101" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + PART # 1 (NOV 7, 1987) 2 HR COLOR + -c- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS "UFO 101" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + PART # 2 (NOV 7, 1987) 2 HR COLOR + -d- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS "UFO 101" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + PART # 1 (NOV 14, 1987) 2 HR COLOR + -e- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 101" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + PART # 2 (NOV 14, 1987) 2 HR COLOR + + A -041 --- OMNI: "THE REAL E.T.; S . E. T. I" + (1988) APROX. 40 MIN. COLOR + + A -042 --- "THE OUTER SPACE CONNECTION" DOCUMENTARY + HOST: ROD STERLING + (1975) 1 HR. 34 MIN COLOR + + A -043 -a- "UFO JOURNALS" (1978) 1 HR 32 MIN COLOR + -b- E.T. MONITOR: NASA - PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT + (3-30-91) 24 MIN. COLOR + -c- E.T. MONITOR: UFO'S OVER MILITARY BASES + (3-30-91) 24 MIN. COLOR + + A -044 --- NOVA: "UFO'S: ARE WE ALONE? The Truth Behind UFO + Sightings" (1988) 1 HR COLOR + A -045 --- "ATTACK FROM OUTER SPACE" Are We Alone In The Universe?" + (1986) 1 HR 36 MIN COLOR + + A -046 -a- "UFO'S IT HAS BEGUN (UFO'S: PAST, PRESENT, & FUTURE) + (1979) 1 HR 34 MIN COLOR + -b- "OVERLORDS OF THE UFO'S" (1976) APROX. 1 HR 45 MIN + COLOR + -c- KNBC-TV LOS ANGELES, 6 PART UFO SPECIAL + (1989) 33 MIN COLOR + + A -047 -a- "SAUCERS" KCET-TV, LAS ANGELES - SPECIAL + (NOV 21, 1988) 30 MIN COLOR + -b- KVBC-TV LAS VAGAS; 5 PART UFO SPECIAL + (1988) 20 MIN COLOR + -c- "ON THE RECORD" KLAS-TV, LAS VEGAS - GEORGE KNAPP + PART # 1 JOHN LEAR - UFO BASES IN NEVADA + (1988) 1 HR. COLOR + -d- "ON THE RECORD" KLAS-TV, LAS VEGAS - GEORGE KNAPP + PART # 2 JOHN LEAR - UFO BASES IN NEVADA + (1988) 1 HR. COLOR + + A -048 -a- KTTV NEWS T.V., LAS ANGELES, CALF. + UFO SPECIAL REPORT: ABDUCTEES + (1988) 3 MIN COLOR + -b- UFO JOURNALS (1978) 1 HR 32 MIN COLOR + -c- EYEWITNESS NEWS LAS ANGELES, SPECIAL REPORT + UFO'S: WYOMING "ENCOUNTERS" + HOST: PAUL MOYER; OBSERVER: PAT MCGUIRE + WITH: L.A. PSYCHIC MARY COLMAN + AND PSYCHOLOGIST DR. LEO SPRINKLE + (JAN 1980) 15 MIN COLOR + -d- INSEARCH OF: "UFO COVER-UPS" HOST: LEONADR NIMOY + (1980) 22 MIN COLOR + -e- UFO EXCLUSIVE (1979) 1 HR 45 MIN COLOR + -f- THE OUTER SPACE CONNECTION; HOST: ROD STERLING + (1979) 1 HR 34 MIN COLOR + + A -049 -a- PAT MCQUIRE RANCHER AND UFOS (1980) 15 MIN COLOR + -b- LOOK AT US...UFO SHOW HOST: RICHARD CRENNA + JOHN SHEPHERD (19??) 7 MIN COLOR + -c- PEOPLE ARE TALKING: "SEARCH FOR UFOS AT MT RAINER" + (10-28-1981) 8 MIN COLOR + -d- LATE NIGHT, DAVID LETTERMAN: "FBI MAN SEES UFO" + (8-6-1982) 9 MIN COLOR + -e- INSEARCH OF: "UFO CAPTIVES" 23 MIN COLOR + (MISSED PART) "UFO LANDINGS" 8 MIN COLOR + "EARTH VISITORS" 23 MIN COLOR + "UFO COVER-UPS" 23 MIN COLOR (1980) + + A -050 -a- KNBC-TV; NBC 6 PART UFO SPECIAL (SAME AS A-046 -c-) + (1989) 33 MIN COLOR + -b- SOUND OFF...RANDOLPH WINTERS: "BILLY MEIER STORY" + (JAN, 1987) 22 MIN COLOR + -c- GERALDO: RAP SESSION "UFO ABDUCTIONS" + GUESTS: BUD HOPKINS, DR. BRUCE MACCABE + ABDUCTEES: PETER ROBBINS AND HIS SISTER + HELLEN WHEELS; ROSMARY OSNATO; "LEIGH" + PHOTO PRESENTATION BY: ELLEN CRYSTALL + (11 - 2 - 1987) APROX 42 MIN. COLOR + -d- ASSORTED UFO NEWS CLIP SHORTS: (1) ARNOLD ARIAS; COLLEGE + PROFESSOR AT CHAFFEY COLLEGE, ALTALOMA, CALF. + IN TROUBLE WITH FACULTY FOR IDEAS ABOUT UFOS + (1987?) 2 MIN KABC-TV, LAS ANGELES, CALF + (2) WHITLEY STREIBER; "MR. UFO" NEWS SPECIAL + REPORT (1987) 6 MIN. COLOR + -e- NIGHTLINE: TED COPPLE "MJ -12 DOCUMENTS" + STANTON FREIDMAN AND PHIL CLASS + (1987) APROX 21 MIN. COLOR + + A -051 -a- THE STRECKER TAPE: "AIDS" + DR. ROBERT STRECKER + (1988) 2 HR. (APPROX) COLOR + -b- E.T. MONITOR - 4 PROGRAMS + (3-3-91 - 3-10-90 - 3-17-91 - 3-24-91) + 30 MIN. EACH COLOR + -c- JAPAN UFO SPECIAL (ENGLISH TRANSLATION) + (10-90) 2 HRS. W/COM. COLOR + + A -052-A-a- UFO'S; SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIAL (ENGLISH TRANSLATION) + (3-24-90) 2 HRS. W/COM. COLOR + -b- TOKYO JAPAN UFO SPECIAL (80 PER CENT ENGLISH TRANSLATION) + (1-91) 2 HRS. W/COM. COLOR + -c- SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE: "THEY LIVE" + (Based on idea Alien Society has infiltrated Earth + society and taken over. Only with special Sun + Glasses does the truth become evident.) + (1989) Aprox 1 1/2 HRS. COLOR + + A -052-B NIPPON TV PROGRAM ON UFO'S (IN JAPANEESE) + (2/90) 2 HR. W/COM. COLOR + (Audio Transliteration accompanies the video -A- 052-B) + + A -053 -a- UFO'S: THE VEGAS VALLEY SIGHTING "FILMS!!!" + (2/20 - 22/90) APROX. 30 MIN. COLOR + DON'T MISS THIS ONE!!! + -b- THE APOLLO 11 MOON LANDING + (7/20/1969) APPROX 1 HR. COLOR/BW + + A -054 -a- BILL COOPER: SEDONA, ARIZONA LECTURE: + "THE SECRET GOVERNMENT" + ( / /89) 3 HR. COLOR + -b- TWIN CITIES: "FACE TO FACE WITH ALIENS" + 1 HR. COLOR + -c- TWIN CITIES: "ABDUCTION CASES - BUD HOPKINS + 1 HR. COLOR + + A -055 -a- BILLY GOODMAN - USA TONIGHT + (JUNE 24,1990) COLOR + -b- UFO INVESTIGATIONS: THE COVERUP + 1 HR. (JAN., 1990) COLOR + -c- INSIDE REPORTS: BOB LAZAR + 8 MIN. (JUNE, 1990) + -d- ED WALTERS; GULF BREEZE UPDATE + 15 MIN. (JUNE, 1990) + -e- UFO: ROSWELL UPDATE: INSIDE REPORTS + 10 MIN (JUNE, 1990) + + A -056 -a- COMMUNION: THE WHITLEY STREIBER STORY + 1990 COLOR APROX 2 HR. + -b- OUT ON A LIMB: SHIRLEY McLAINE STORY + APROX 3 1/2 HR. COLOR (1988) + + A -057 UFO'S: THE FILMS PROVE IT." + 1. UPDATE ON THE RUSSIAN OCT. 1989 UFO LANDING + 2. UFO FILMS & VIDEO TAPES FROM AROUND THE WORLD + 3. UFO NEWSREELS AND STRANGE EVENTS!!! + UPDATED MARCH 27,1990 2 HR. 30 MIN. COLOR/BW + + A -058 -a- N.C MUFON MEETING COLOR 2/4/90 + -b- THE GODFREY INCIDENT COLOR 54 MIN. 1975 + -c- SALLEY JESSY RAPHAEL COLOR 44 MIN. 11/17/88 + -d- UFO'S A SCIENTIFIC ENIGMA COLOR 52 MIN. 1975 + -e- BROWN MOUNTAIN LIGHTS COLOR 26 MIN ??? + + A -059 -a- RUSSIAN UFO - JAPANEESE SHOW COLOR APROX 2 HR. + -b- LINDA M. HOWE - GEORGE KNAP, KLAS-TV. LAS VEGAS, NEV. + -c- ROBERT (BOB) LAZAR - COURT APPEARANCE + + A -060 -a- NIPPON TV SATURDAY SUPER SPECIAL + "UFO REPORT" COLOR 2 HR. 2/1990 + -b- UFO'S OVER SUNRISE MOUNTAIN - LAS VEGAS, NEV. + COLOR APROX 1 HR. 1990 + -c- UFO'S WEST SIDE COLOR 1990 + -d- UFO'S OVER SAM'S TOWN COLOR 1990 + + A -061 -a- THE BAMBOO SAUCER (SCIENCE FICTION) + COLOR 1 HR. 43 MIN 1984 + -b- LINDA HOWE LECTURE: "UFO'S AND CATTLE MUTILATIONS" + COLOR APROX 2 HR 52 MIN 5/20/90 + -c- TOP OF THE DAY COLOR 7 1/2 MIN 5/18/90 + -d- AMERICAN MAGAZINE - FYFE, ALA., MUFON CONV., BILLY MEIER + COLOR JULY 2-6/90 37 1/2 MIN + -e- DAVE ABBOTT SHOW, VANCOUVER, BC + COLOR 43 MIN. ??? + + A -062 -a- BILL KNELL UFO SIGHTING - QUEENS, NY. + 4 1/2 MIN NIGHT 12/29/89 + -b- MARYLAND UFO SIGHTING + COLOR 16 MIN 5/28/89 + -c- OSCAR JORDAN UFO SIGHTING; MOUNT VERNON, IND. + 9/27/89 NIGHT 2 1/2 MIN + -d- UNSOLVER MYSTERIES: ENGLAND CORNFIELD CIRCLES + COLOR 16 MIN. 1/31/90 + + A -063 -a- INSEARCH OF ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS + COLOR 50 MIN. + -b- UFO - GULF BREEZE, FLA. + COLOR MIN. OCT. 5, 1988 + -c- UFO COVER-UP LIVE + COLOR 1 HR. 31 MIN. 10/14/88 + -d- OSCAR JORDAN TV 25 INTERVIEW + COLOR 2 1/2 MIN DEC. 1988 + + A -064 UFO'S, THE BEST EVIDENCE #2 + COLOR 2 HR. 1990 + + A -065 -a- HARD COPY: UFO TAPED OVER BELGIUM + COLOR 30 MIN. OCT. 25, 1990 + -b- UFO REPORT ON HOWARD BLUMS BOOK: "OUT THERE, ERRORS" + COLOR MIN. OCT. 26, 1990 + -c- UFO-NEW HUGH UNIVERSE DISCOVERED + COLOR MIN. OCT. 25, 1990 + -d- JAPAN "CROP CIRCLES" IN RICE FIELD + COLOR MIN. OCT. 25, 1990 + + A -066 -a- OPRA WENFRIED: UFO'S + COLOR 50 MIN. 9/7/90 + -b- CBS NEWS: UFO'S + COLOR 2 1/2 MIN. 9/8/90 + -c- UNSLOVED MYSTERIES: CORN CIRCLES + COLOR 20 MIN. 9/12/90 + -d- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: KECKSVILLE, PA. UFO CRASH + COLOR 30 MIN. 9/19/90 + -e- LARY KING SHOW: UFO'S; WHITLEY STREIBER AND HOWARD BLUM + COLOR 1 HR. 9/21/90 + -f- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: "THE BRAMUDA TRIANGLE MYSTERY SOLVED?" + COLOR 20 MIN. 9/26/90 + -g- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: "GULF BREEZE; HOAX?" + COLOR 20 MIN. 9/31/90 + -h- CURRENT AFFAIR: BOB LAZAR; MAN CLAIMS TO WORK ON UFO'S. + COLOR 20 MIN. 10/11/90 + + A -067 -a- UFO CONNECTION 1990: VARIOUS UFO FILMS + (1990) 2 HOURS COLOR/B&W + -b- TERRAN'S - DAY AND NIGHT FOOTAGE + (10-29; 11-10-1990) 27 MIN. COLOR/NIGHT + -c- VEGAS VALLEY SIGHTINGS + (1990) 25 MIN. COLOR + + A -068 -a- GINGER RICHARDSON - BOB LAZAR AND JOHN LEAR + (11-4-90) 24 MIN. COLOR + -b- MARK BLASHAK - UFO SIGHTINGS IN VIRGINIA + (11-4-90) 27 MIN. COLOR + + A -069 -a- MEGADEATH - HANGER 18 VIDEO + (1991) 6 1/2 MIN. COLOR + + A -070 -a- HOGLAND'S MARS: THE NASA - CYDONIA BRIEFING + (1991) 1 HR. 30 MIN. COLOR + -b- TOM BEARDON LECTURE: ELECTRO MAGNETIC WAVES + (1985) 1 HR. COLOR + -c- UFO'S THE FINAL WARNING: HITLER AND THE UFO CONNECTION + (1989) 45 MIN. COLOR/B&W + + A -071 -a- CBS MORNING NEWS: CONNIE COOK AND UFO MUSIC + (12-90) 4 MIN. COLOR + -b- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: UFO'S + (12-90) 11 MIN. COLOR (A010-i)* + -c- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: THE CASH - LANDRUM UPDATE + (2/6/91) 15 1/2 MIN. COLOR + -d- THE MAN WHO SAW TOMORROW # 2 + (2-26-91) 1 HR. COLOR + + A -072 -a- CHARLOTTE, N.C. - BUD HOPKINS 2 PM LECTURE + (12-2-90) APROX 2 HRS. COLOR + -b- CHARLOTTE, N.C. - BUD HOPKINS 7:30 PM LECTURE + (12-2-90) 1 HR. 57 MIN. COLOR + -c- EARTH MYSTERIES: ALIEN LIFE FORMS - LINDA M. HOWE + (1990) 2 HRS. COLOR + -d- HENRY MORTON: UFO'S - PURPOSE - COVERUP? + (2-3-91) 6 MIN. PARTIAL PROGRAM COLOR + + A -073 UFO'S ON LONG ISLAND - VIDEO DOCUMENTARY PRODUCED BY THE + LONG ISLAND UFO NETWORK - COPYRIGHT 1989 - L.I.U.F.O.N., + INC. + + A -074 -a- HARD COPY - BELGIUM UFO'S + (10/25/90) APROX 20 MIN. COLOR + -b- MARRIED WITH CHILDREN - ALL MEETS GREY ALIENS + (10/4/90) 30 MIN. COLOR + -c- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES - GULF BREEZE UFO'S + (11/13/90) APROX 20 MIN. COLOR + -D- CULVER, INDIANA LIGHTS + (11/13/90) ?? MIN. COLOR + -e- GUESS WHO'S COMING TO CHRISTMAS - Science Fiction + (12/23/90) 1 HR. 30 MIN. COLOR + -f- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES - CASH, LANDRUM INCIDENT + (2/6/91) ?? MIN. COLOR + -g- WINGS - UFO'S + (2/7/91) ?? MIN. COLOR + -h- AMERICA'S BEST KEPT SECRETS - GULF BREEZE, FLA. + (2/25/91) ?? MIN. COLOR + -h- McGIVER - UFO INCIDENT + (12/3/90) 1 HR. COLOR + -i- INDIANA LIGHTS + (12/6/90) ?? MIN. COLOR + -j- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES - CANADA UFO + (12/12/90) ?? MIN. COLOR + -k- HARD COPY - UFO'S IN SPAIN + (1/22/91) ?? MIN. COLOR + -l- T.V. SERIES: THE INVADERS - EPISODE ONE + "BEACH HEAD" + (1/10/67) 1 HR. COLOR + + A -075 NIGHT SIGHTINGS OF UFOS IN CALIFORNIA BY MIKE CONTRERAS + (1990) APROX 1 HR. COLOR + + A -076 -a- THE METAPHYSICAL EXPERIENCE: PSYCHIC READINGS, ETC. + (1990) 1/2 HR. COLOR + -b- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES - KECKSBURG, PA. + (1990) ?? MIN. COLOR + + -c- E.T. MONITOR - DR. ROBERT BERRY; UFO'S + (4/13/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -d- E.T. MONITOR - DR. ROBERT BERRY; UFO'S + (4/21/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -e- HAUNTINGS - GHOST STORIES, CBS DOCUMENTARY + (5/15/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -f- MIRACLES - ABC DOCUMENTARY + (5/16/91) 1 HR. COLOR + + A -077 -a- INTRO TO MOTORIZED UFO: Video Clearing House Yucaipa, Ca. + -b- ALTERNATIVE 003: MOVIE - Audio track out of sync at times. + (1990) APROX 1 HR. COLOR/B&W. + -c- UFO'S; DAVE ARRON, IN THE LION'S DEN + (1990) ?? MIN. COLOR + -d- SERGEI BULANTSEV: UFO'S IN THE USSR (Exclusive interview) + (1990) APROX 1 HR. COLOR + A -078 -a- THE METAPHYSICAL EXPERIENCE: Part # 1. + PRESTON NICKOLS AND DUNCAN CAMERON: + MONTAUK LABS AND PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT + (1991) 30 MIN. COLOR + -b- THE METAPHYSICAL EXPERIENCE: Part # 2. + PRESTON NICKOLS AND DUNCAN CAMERON: + MONTAUK LABS AND PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT + (1991) 30 MIN. COLOR + -c- BILL TENUTO: TALK SHOW + (1991) ?? MIN. COLOR + + A -079 DANIEL FRY INTERVIEW BY KEN DEMARY OF THE DENVER UFO SOCIETY. + (AUGUST, 1990) 1 HR. 54 MIN. COLOR + + A -080 UFO'S and CHANNELING - DOCUMENTARY + (1989) 50 MIN. COLOR + + A -081 -a- E.T. MONITOR: DR. ROBERT BERRY; UFOS, ETC. + (4/27/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -b- E.T. MONITOR: DR. ROBERT BERRY; UFOS, ETC. + (5/3/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -c- STS 38, ATLANTIS SPACE SHOT + (1990??) ?? MIN. COLOR + -d- UFOS FROM GREENSBURG, IND. + (?? ?? ??) ?? MIN. COLOR + -e- T.V. SERIES: THE INVADERS - EPISODE # 6: + (1967) 1 HR. COLOR + -f- HARD COPY - MAN LOOSES JOB/UFOS + (?? ?? ??) ?? MIN. COLOR + -g- E.T. MONITOR: DR. ROBERT BERRY; UFOS, ETC. + (5/11/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -h- E.T. MONITOR: DR. ROBERT BERRY; UFOS, ETC. + (5/17/91) 1 HR. COLOR + A -082 VIDEO AND COMMENTARY OF UFO PHOTOS IN ARIZONA + (1983 - 1989) COLOR + + A -083 -a- THE BEST EVIDENCE PART # 3 - 5 PART SERIES: GEORGE KNAPP. + (5/17/91) APROX. 30 MIN. COLOR. + -b- MYSTERIES FROM THE UNKNOWN - CBS UFO DOCUMENTARY + (5/17/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -c- TORN FROM THE LAND: DOCUMENTARY OF AMERICAS FARMERS/LOSS' + (?? ?? ??) ?? MIN. COLOR/B&W + -d- ON THE RECORD: UFOS, ETC.; GEORGE KNAPP + + A -084 -a- CAREY BAKER - FYFFE, ALA. UFO STORY + (11/17/90) 2 HRS. 03 MIN. COLOR + -b- ROBYN QUAIL - UFO LECTURE + (10/15/90) 1 HR. 49 MIN. COLOR + -c- WILLIAM HERMAN ABDUCTION CASE + (1991) 1 HR. 40 MIN. COLOR + -d- RECOLLECTIONS OF ROSWELL + (1990) 25 MIN. COLOR + + A -085 -a- CLOSER LOOK - NBC DOCUMENTARY + (?? ?? ??) ?? MIN. COLOR + -b- THE RIDDLE OF THE SPHINX: PART # 1 S + (4/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -c- E.T. MONITOR: ROBERT BERRY; UFOS, ETC. + (6/8/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -d- E.T. MONITOR: ROBERT BERRY; UFOS, ETC. + (6/15/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -e- E.T. MONITOR: ROBERT BERRY; UFOS, ETC. + (6/22/91) 1 HR. COLOR + -f- TV SERIES: THE INVADERS; EPISODE # 2 + "THE MUTILATION: + (1967) 1 HR. COLOR + -g- TV SERIES: THE INVADERS; EPISODE # 3 + "THE EXPERIMENT" + (1967) 1 HR. COLOR + + A -086 UFO ABDUCTIONS AND THE GOVERNMENT COVER-UP: + IMPROMPTU DISCUSSION - UFOS AND PSYCHOLOGY + (1991) APROX 1 HR 45 MIN. COLOR + + A -087 MORE FILMS FROM THE VEGAS VALLEY, NEV. UFO SIGHTINGS + (1989 - 1990) APROX. 1 HR. 30 MIN. COLOR/NIGHT + + A -088 -a- THE RIDDLE OF THE SPHINX + (4/1991) 70 MIN. COLOR + -b- LOST REALMS: ZECHARIA SITCHIN + (1990) 30 MIN. COLOR + -b- ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS: ZECHARIA SITCHIN + (1990) 30 MIN. COLOR + -c- UFO COVER-UP: COLMAN VONKEVICSKY; STANTON FRIEDMAN + (1991) 30 MIN. COLOR + -d- RICHARD PRICE: ABDUCTEE - PART # 1 + (1990) 30 MIN. COLOR + -e- RICHARD PRICE: ABDUCTEE - PART # 2 + (1990) 30 MIN. COLOR + -f- OPHRA - MEN WHO WALKED ON THE MOON + (7/19/91) 1 HR. COLOR + + A -089 BILL KNELL UFO LECTURE - LOUISVILLE, KY. - RAMADA INN + (7/25/91) 1 HR. 30 MIN. COLOR + + A -090 -a- UFO VIDEO FROM KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE + (4/15/91) APROX. 3 MIN. NIGHT + -b- GRASS CIRCLES ON FARM NEAR KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE + (4/17/91) APROX. 2 MIN. COLOR + -c- 20/20: CROP CIRCLES FROM ENGLAND + (8/2/91) APROX 20 MIN. COLOR + + A -091 V - THE MINI SERIES - PARTS 1 - 4 + COPYRIGHT 1984 + TAPED - (8/7-14-21-28/1991) 6HRS. COLOR + + A -092 -a- WILLIAM HERMAN ABDUCTION STORY + (1991) 1 HR. 45 MIN. COLOR + -b- BATTLE FOR PLANET EARTH - JOHN SLOVERN + (1991) 1 HR. 35 MIN. COLOR + -c- V - THE FINAL BATTLE - PART 5 + COPYRIGHT 1984 + TAPED - (9/4/91) 1 HR. 25 MIN. COLOR + + A -093 -a- THE JEFFERSON DESOUZA INTERVIEW - St. Petersburg, Fl. + MIKE CHRISTOL, TOM AND LISE THEOFANOUS + (6/15-16/1991) APROX. 4 HRS. COLOR + -b- THE LARRY KING SHOW -CNN- THE ROSWELL INCIDENT + (7/1/91) 30 MIN. COLOR + + A -094 -a- DR. ROBERT STRECKER - "AIDS" + (1988) 1 HR. 40 MIN. COLOR + -b- E.T. MONITOR - THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT & + THE ROSWELL INCIDENT + ( ?/91) 20 MIN. COLOR + + A -095 -a- DAYTON, OHIO NEWS 5: + BILL KNELL LECTURE & HANGER 18 RPT. + (7/91) 10 MIN. COLOR + -b- CLAUDIA SANDENON UFO LECTURE, Kansas City, Mo. + (2/28/91) 30 MIN. COLOR + -c- MIKE CHRISTOL UFO LECTURE Louisville, Ky. (PARTIAL) + (7/91) 15 MIN. COLOR + -d- E.T. MONITOR - DR. ROBERT BARRY & JACK DANNER, ASTRONOMER + (10/12/91) 50 MIN. COLOR + + A -096 ALIEN SEED - ERIK ESTRADA - SCIENCE FICTION!? + SUMMARY: Mary Jordon, an innocent eighteen year old + student finds herself unexplainably impregnated after + a mysterious eleven hour disappearance in the country. + Investigations uncover a complex Alien scheme to deliver + a "messiah" to save the Earth from mankind's corruption. + MJ-12, a secret government agency studying UFO's, + wants to kidnap Mary and control the child for their own + purposes. But Dr. Stone (Erik Estrada) wants the child + dead...at any cost. + When Marry turns up brutally murdered, her sister + Lisa vows revenge...only to find herself the new target + for the alien conception. + (1989) 85 MIN. COLOR + + A -097 1991 MUFON SYMPOSIUM, CHICAGO, ILL. TAPE # 1 + -a- "WELCOME TO CHICAGO" - JUDY STULTS + -b- "MUFON GREETINGS" - WALT ANDRUS + -c- "INTRODUCTION" - FOREST CRAWFORD + -d- "CROP CIRCLES: HISTERY AND OVERVIEW" - DENNIS STACY + -e- "CEREOLOGY: SCIENCE THESIS" - MICHAEL CHOROST + -f- "MODERN BIOLOGY, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, & ETH" - MICHAEL SWORDS + -g- "FURTHER EVIDENCE ON ANIMAL MUTILATIONS" - LINDA M. HOWE + -h- "TISSUE CHANGES IN ANIMAL MUTILATIONS"- JOHN ASTSHULER M.D. + -i- "OVERALL UFO CONDTACEE/ABDUCTEE PICTURE" - FOREST CRAWFORD + (7/5-6-7/91) 6 HRS. COLOR + + A -098 1991 MUFON SYMPOSIUM, CHICAGO, ILL. TAPE # 2 + -a- "OVERALL UFO CONTACTEE/ABDUCTION PICTURE CONTINUES..." + -b- "REALITY OF THE UFO ABDUCTION PHENOMENON" - JOHN CARPENTER + -c- "UPDATE ON CRASHED SAUCERS IN NEW MEXICO"- STANTON FRIEDMAN + -d- "ENGLISH CROP CIRCLES" - COLIN ANDREWS + (7/5-6-7/91) 6 HRS. COLOR + + A -099 1991 MUFON SYMPOSIUM, CHICAGO, ILL. TAPE # 3 + -a- "GOVERNMENT UFO CONNECTIONS" - SCOTT JONES, PH.D. + -b- "WHAT CAN WE BELIEVE IN ABDUCT ACCOUNTS?" -DAVID JOCOBS, "" + -c- "GULF BREEZE WITHOUT ED" - BRUCE MACCABEE PH.D. + -d- "INSIGHTS INTO ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORY" - GENE M. PHILLIPS + -e- "ENGLISH CROP CIRCLES AND DOWSING" - RICHARD ANDREWS + -f- "ENGLISH CROP CIRCLES AERIALS" - BUSTY TAYLOR + -g- "CLOSING" - WALT ANDRUS + (7/5-6-7/91) 6 HRS. COLOR + + A -100 SHINING STAR PRODUCTIONS + ALFERED BIELEK: DIMENSIONS IN PARAPSYCHOLOGY + (3/91) 1 HR. 30 MIN. COLOR + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + New tapes will be added to this list from time to time as i receive + them. Anyone having programs which you do not find listed above, please + contact me if you are interested in trading with me for those on this + list which you do not have. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2736.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2736.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1f2ec15d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2736.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,413 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO VIDEO TAPE LIST FILE: UFO2736 + + + + +PART 2 + + + + Filename: M-Video2.Cat + Type : Catalog + Author : Mike Christol + Date : 11/19/92 + Desc : Mike Christol's Video/Audio Catalig list + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Mike Christol + Space Link BBS + US 502/683-3026 + FidoNet 1:2310/210 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + METAPHYSICAL AND PARANORMAL AUDIO TAPE LIST + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The following list of audio tapes consists of lectures, guided + meditations, meditation music and psychic exercises, such as Astral + Projection, self hypnosis, etc. Anyone wishing a copy of one or more of + these tapes please contact me via Space_Link BBS. + + The following tapes are not for sale. They may be acquired by trading + for other material or by donation. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + 001 LECTURE - Dr. Raymond Moody, Jr. "LIFE AFTER DEATH" + + 002 LECTURE - Dr. George C. Ritchie, Jr. "MANY REALMS" + + 003 LECTURE - 004 LECTURE - Dr. Geddes MacGregor + "REINCARNATION IN CHRISTIANITY" + + 004 LECTURE - Capt. Ed. Mitchell "THE WONDERS OF SPACE" + + 005 LECTURE - Capt. Ed. Mitchell "OUTER SPACE AND ESP" + + 006 LECTURE - Dr. Alex Tannus "YOUR SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT + IN A CHANGING WORLD" + + 007 EXERCISE - Side A - "DEEP MUSCLE RELAXATION" + Side B - "PASSIVE MUSCLE RELAXATION" + + 008 EXERCISE - Side A - "IMAGERY" + Side B - "IMAGE REHEARSAL" + + 009 ENVIRONMENTS TAPE - "HEARTBEAT" + This is the first sound you heard as a fetus. Its power + is undeniable. After a great deal of research into + bionic technology, SR has created a heartbeat that, due + to its unusually slow rhythm, produces extraordinary + results during lovemaking and meditation. Also highly + useful for calming newborn infants. (60 min.) + + 010 TROPICAL RAIN FOREST - Great for meditation or + relaxation. + + 011 EXERCISE - "HEALING WATERFALL" Guided meditation + + 012 EXERCISE - Jose Silva "THE SILVA MIND CONTROL METHOD" + + 013 GUIDED MEDITATION - Max Highstein's "LIGHTBEING" + + 014 MEDITATION MUSIC - Patric O'Hearn "ANCIENT DREAMS" + + 015 MEDITATION MUSIC - "LAZARIS REMEMBERS LEMURIA" + + 016 WEST INDES CHANTS - Side A - "CHANTS AND MEDITATION MUSIC" + Side B - "GREGORIAN CHANTS" + + 017 EXERCISE - Dick Sutphen + Side A - "CHAKRA BALANCING / ENERGIZING + HYPNOSIS SESSION" + Side B - "ASTRAL PROJECTION / Standard + Lift Out" + + 018 EXERCISE - Dick Sutphen + Side A - "MEETING YOUR GUIDE AND MASTER" + Side B - "ASTRAL PLANES TOUR" + + 019 EXERCISE - Side A - "ASTRAL PROJECTION" + Side B - "MIND PROJECTION" + + 020 EXERCISE - Dick Sutphen - "EMERGENCE INTO THE LIGHT" + + 021 INSTRUCTIONAL - Donald M. Kraig + Side A - "USING MODERN MAGICK LANGUAGE" + Side B - "USING MODERN MAGIC / RELAXATION RITUAL" + + 022 EXERCISE - Dick Sutphen + Side A - A Hypnotic Regression; "PRE-BIRTH PLANNING" + Side B - A Hypnotic Regression; "THREE SPECIAL LIVES" + + 023 EXERCISE - Dick Sutphen + Side A - "ASTRAL PROJECTION PREPARATION" + Side B - "STANDARD SELF HYPNOSIS" + + 024 LECTURE - Paul Solomon - Source Readings; "EARTH CHANGES + AND NEW HORIZONS" + + 025 EXERCISE - David Naegele - "JOURNEYS OUT OF THE BODY" + + 026 LECTURE - Side A - "THE SEVENFOLD WISDOM OF HERMES" + Side B - "RUBAIYAT OF OMAR KHAYYAM" + + 027 MEDITATION MUSIC - Side A - "AFFIRMATION; HEAVEN AND HELL; + Gymnosphere" + Side B - "TARANSHANTI; ANCIENT ECHOS + + 028 MEDITATION MUSIC - Both Sides - Aeoliah, "ANGEL LOVE" + + 028 MEDITATION MUSIC - Side A - Steve Halpern - "SPECTRUM SUITE" + Side B - Steve Halpern - "SUITE..." Continues + Georgia Kelly - "SEAPEACE" + + 029 MEDITATION MUSIC - Both Sides - Kitaro, "SILK ROAD" + + 030 MUSIC - "MOODS FOR A STORMY NIGHT" + + 031 EXERCISE - Georgia Kelly and Emmett Miller - "RAINBOW BUTTERFLY" + Side A - "RAINBOW MEDITATION" + Side B - "AWAKENING THE RAINBOW BUTTERFLY" + + 032 MEDITATION MUSIC - "GOLDEN VOYAGE" Volume # 1 + + 033 MEDITATION MUSIC - "GOLDEN VOYAGE" Volume # 4 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + THE ROBERT MONROE TAPES + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + "These tapes are not for sell. They remain the sole property of the + Monroe Institute who retains the copyright. Any resale of these tapes is + illegal and the offender will be subject to prosecution by the Monroe + Institute." + + The next series of tapes are from the Monroe Institute Self help course. + They are divided into three different categories: + + One, the Explorer tapes which are the recorded reports of the explorers + who are in altered states of consciousness. + + Two, an introductional lecture by Robert Monroe and a series of tapes + which include Meta Music, concentration exercises, resonant tuning + exercises, etc., etc... + + Three, the instructional tapes themselves, which if practiced will allow + the student to develop the hemispheric synchronization. This consists of + progressing through six different levels of training. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + 034 + + No. 1 - An out-of-body experience. Communication through the + Explorer's vocal chords from other entities. ROMC + No. 2 - From a REBAL, the Explorer is taken into several past-life + regressions. ROMC + No. 3 - A physicist Explorer discusses the human relationship with + higher consciousness and the opportunities for learning and + ways to develop new technology. TCA + No. 4 - The multi-dimensional aspects of the self; how thought forms + limit us; the importance of recognizing the limitlessness of + the soul. Notice of preparation for Earth Changes. ROMC + No. 5 - Introduction to Miranon, coming from level 46 of pure + energy. + The story of Leona and Lemuria. The seven evolutions of + Earth and introduction to the "Cosmology of Seven." SHE + No. 6 - Miranon further explains the "Cosmology of Seven." --- the + levels and planes of existence. The purpose of guides in + helping us overcome our limitations. SHE + No. 7 - What is reality? How humans can gain awareness of the true + reality. The purpose of sleep in balancing human + perception. + Mental illness as a healing process. ROMC + No. 8 - Discussion of consciousness. The importance of breaking + thought barriers by putting knowledge into action. The + purpose of the Christ and the importance of knowing the + Christ consciousness within the self. ROMC + No. 9 - Four Explorers discuss Earth Changes throughout the world, + the reasons for them and what humans can do to avert or + minimize their effects. All foresee coming catastrophe, but + many beneficial results in the next 20 + years. TC, SHE, + MC, JOC + No. 10 - A meeting with several entities who have passed over to the + other side. Discussion of their activities and perceptions + now of physical existence. A discussion of food and energy. + MJA + No. 11 - The five levels of human consciousness. The importance of + overcoming limiting thoughts and being responsible for one's + own self. ROMC + No. 12 - TC reports his travels and his communications with other + entities. Message on the levels of human consciousness. + TC + No. 13 - Miranon discusses health and energy, walking, the corres- + pondence of the seven energy centers of the body with the + seven levels of human existence; growth and death as one. + More discussion of vibrational levels and definitions of + what we call good and evil. SHE + No. 14 - Left and right hemispheres of the brain. The 14 triangles + of safety in the U.S. Discussion of higher consciousness. + Miranon prepares to move from level 46 to higher planes. + SHE + No. 15 - Relation of energy and the physical body. Simultaneous + existences. Nature of the personality. Discussion of food. + JCA + No. 16 - The effects of auditory signals on the brain. The + importance of balancing and integrating male/female + principles within the self. Arrival to Earth of non- + physical entities to prepare humans for coming Earth + Changes. TC + No. 17 - The rescue of Patrick, who has died more than 100 years ago, + but refuses to accept his death. ROMC + No. 18 - Story of the Creation. The created as the Creator and the + unity of all things. + No. 19 - A message about Christ Consciousness, love and fear. NVP + No. 20 - Attachments, including religious beliefs, as major stumbling + blocks to spiritual development. Comments on Earth Changes. + MJL + No. 21 - A meeting with Father Time. Encounters with other forms of + existence, each with a message. JCA + No. 22 - Comments from the Council of Love about the dawning of the + Aquarian Age. Lessons that Man must learn. NKH + No. 23 - Robert Monroe reviews the past ten years of h is work. Life + as wave forms. Comments on reincarnation. RAM + No. 24 - Robert Monroe describes his laboratory procedures. Excerpts + from some Explorer tapes. Final report from Miranon. RAM + + 035 + + A - NEW FRONTIERS OF CONSCIOUSNESS - Robert Monroe + B - INTRO ENERGY BAR TOOL + C - HEMI-SYNC LECTURE + D - RESONANT TUNING (Very important to practice often) + E - CONCENTRATION AID + F - META MUSIC - GREEN + G - META MUSIC - BLUE + H - MEMI-SYNC - SURF + I - LIVE BETTER - LIVE LONGER + J - HEMI-SYNC OPEN EXERCISE + K - MOMENT OF REVELATION + L - GUIDE TO SERENITY + M - MENTRONICS SLEEP TAPE + N - HP 10 - BASIC + O - HIGH PERFORMANCE 10 - SLEEP + P - HP 10 - SLEEP + Q - RELAX AND RECHARGE IN 30 MIN. + R - RETAIN - RECALL - RELEASE + S - CABLE CAR RIDE (Wake up tape) + T - FOREST TEACHER + U - ALERT AND AWAKE + V - META MUSIC SUNSET + W - META MUSIC DOWNSTREAM + X - LIVING BODY MAP - Exercise # 1 and # 2 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + 036 Wave I - Discovery: Understanding Hemi-Sync...establishing + Focus 10 (mind awake, body asleep)...mind tools...energy + conversion box...resonant tuning...resonant energy balloon... + release of emotions, fears...sleep exploration...free flow 10. + + 1 - GATEWAY DISCOVERY + Orientation + 2 - GATEWAY DISCOVERY + Intro Focus 10 + 3 - GATEWAY DISCOVERY + Advanced Focus 10 + 4 - GATEWAY DISCOVERY + Release - Recharge + 5 - GATEWAY DISCOVERY + Explore - Sleep + 6 - GATEWAY DISCOVERY + Free Flow 10 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + 037 Wave II - Threshold: Establishing Focus 12 (expanded + awareness, non-physical perception)...new mind tools...living + body map for physical maintenance...energy bar tool, the mental + "magic wand"...problem-solving techniques at the mental + level...setting future patterns, one month...color as energy + catalyst. + + 1 - THRESHOLD + Introduction - Focus 12 + 2 - THRESHOLD + Problem Solving - Focus 12 + 3 - THRESHOLD + One month Patterning - Focus 12 + 4 - THRESHOLD + Color Breathing - Focus 10 & 12 + 5 - THRESHOLD + Energy Bar Tool + 6 - THRESHOLD + Introduction - Living Body Map (See 035 - X for more exercises) + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + 038 Wave III - Freedom: Perceiving distant events...inner + awareness, answers to five basic questions...non-physical + navigation training...controlled floating practice...energy + food... practice in first stage separation. + + 1 - FREEDOM + Lift Off - Focus 10 + 2 - FREEDOM + Remote Viewing - Focus 10 + 3 - FREEDOM + Vectors - Focus 12 + 4 - FREEDOM + Five Questions - Focus 12 + 5 - FREEDOM + Energy Food - Focus 12 + 6 - FREEDOM + First stage Separation - Focus 12 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + 039 Wave IV - Adventure: Advanced future patterns, one year... + five personal messages...free flow 12, for extended exploration + ...non-verbal communication (NVC)...application of NVC in other + energy systems...meetings with high tech friends...lessons in + protocol. + + 1 - ADVENTURE + One Year Patterning + 2 - ADVENTURE + Five Messages + 3 - ADVENTURE + Free Flow 12 + 4 - ADVENTURE + NVC 1 + 5 - ADVENTURE + NVC 2 + 6 - ADVENTURE + Compoint 12 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + 040 Wave V - Exploring: Traveling the inner or outer universe... + expanding thoughts beyond previously charted paths...exploring + in NVC free flow 10 and 12...new vistas of perception... + exploring the realms of sleep...opening doors to unexplored + places within. + + 1 - EXPLORING + Mission 10 + 2 - EXPLORING + Mission 12 + 3 - EXPLORING + Mission - Day + 4 - EXPLORING + Mission - Night + 5 - EXPLORING + Horizons + 6 - EXPLORING + Pathways + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + 041 Wave VI - Prospecting: Digging for treasures within the mind... + tools to explore and find "diamonds of thought"...experiencing + near and far reaches...training in Null Point...Plus Polarity + potential...Bio-body discoveries...Metamorphosis. + + 1 - PROSPECTING + Metamorphosite + 2 - PROSPECTING + Bio-body + 3 - PROSPECTING + Null-Point + 4 - PROSPECTING + Plus Polarity + 5 - PROSPECTING + Near Reaches + 6 - PROSPECTING + Far Reaches + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + 042 Medical Tapes: For those who may be preparing for surgery these + tapes will prove extremely useful. + + 1 - P8006 - E.T. - Pre-Op: To be used prior to surgery. + 2 - P8007 - E.T. - Intra-Op: To be used during surgery. + 3 - P8008 - E.T. - Recovery: Post operation tape. + 4 - P8009 - E.T. - Recuperation: To be used in the weeks after + surgery. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2737.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2737.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4171f0af --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2737.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,214 @@ +SUBJECT: GULF BREEZE UPDATE 7/20/93 FILE: UFO2737 + + + + + +Tue 20 Jul 93 9:53 +By: Vince Johnson +To: All +Re: Gulf Breeze Update +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +The following file is courtesy of HUFON REPORT, the +newsletter of the Houston UFO Network. For more information call (713) +850-1352. +------------------------------------------------------------------------ + +Gulf Breeze Update +"Bubba" Back in Dramatic Daylight Sightings +by Andy Abercrombie + + With what may prove to be the BIG Story of 1993, the town of Gulf +Breeze, Florida, again steps into the UFO spotlight with a blockbuster of a +story... videotaped and still footage of a structured daylight disk! No, this +is not another Mexico City misidentification of the planet Venus but, rather, +what appears to be the "real thing" as both the video and the Polaroid photo +have been analized and proclaimed to be genuine by not only MUFON's Jeff Sainio, but optical physicist, Dr. Bruce Maccabee as well. As many of you know, since +1987, Gulf Breeze, Florida, has been nick-named the unofficial UFO capital of +the world due to the extraordinary number of sightings that have been +witnessed and recorded there. The most famous photos were those taken by Ed +Walters and published in the book detailing his experiences, The Gulf Breeze +Sightings, in 1990. Until July of 1992, skywatchers had documented an average +of 7 to 8 sightings a month... after that, the elusive UFO, affectionately +named "Bubba," apparently disappeared for his 30,000 light-year check-up. But +then toward the end of November , a few phone calls were received saying that +"Bubba" was back. These reports turned out to be true, but the UFO's visits +have become much less frequent. I've been told if the Gulf Breeze Research +Team is lucky, now they'll have a sighting about once ev ery two weeks, so the +appearance of a structured craft during the daylight hours is a truly +significant development. + + In a telephone interview with Bland Pugh, MUFON investigator and +editor of the Florida MUFON News ( and creator of one of the finest red- +beans-and-rice recipes in the Northern Hemisphere), the following facts were +reported: On March 25, a Mr. Martin "Allen" looked up and saw something coming +out of the northwest at a tremendous rate of speed. He first thought it must +be some type of aircraft he'd never seen before. Later, the object reappeared +and again moved tow ard him from the same direction and toward the southeast. +The next day, "Allen" set up his video camera in hopes of recording the object +and that's exactly what it did! Returning from having gotten an apple inside +his house, he was stunned to see the sa me UFO coming at himfrom the southeast. +The camera recorded the whole sequence as the UFO sped across the screen. In an +article by Bland appearing in the June 9th issue of The Islander,"Allen" said, +" I couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw that round, silver thing racing +across the sky. But, when it shot overhead a second time, I knew it wasn't a +normal airplane. By God, I knew it was that UFO that I read about in the +newspaper! It was round and kind of crown-shaped with a lower level and a dark +red circle in the bottom center." It was at that point that Bland decided to +enlist the aid of another MUFON investigator, Gary Watson, well known for his +investigation of the Ed Walters case. That decision proved to be a timely one +as less than a week later, on March 31, Bland said he received another call +from "Allen." This time he said he had videoed the same UFO hovering out over +the Gulf of Mexico from his home on Santa Rosa Isl and. After being recorded +for about 45 seconds, the UFO made an extraordinary exit to the southeast. +Allen exclaimed, "It was fast, real fast! I videotaped it! I couldn"t believe +this was happening and that it was happening in broad daylight!" Bland tol d me +that when he saw the tape that night, he couldn't believe it either but, there +it was... hovering with the sun reflecting off of it and the clouds moving +behind it, sat the UFO. The object was silver in color and reflected the light +of the sun. It seemed that "Bubba" had definitely returned and, this time, +without a hint of shyness. + + On April 2, Bland received yet another call from "Allen" saying that +at 10:30 that morning, because the batteries on his video camera weren't +charged, he'd photographed the UFO with his Polaroid camera! This time the +object had been hovering ov er the beach to the south of his home. Charles +Flannigan, Florida State Director for MUFON, was now also called into the +investigation, and the decision was made to forward the videos and Polaroid +photo to Jeff Sainio, Photo Analyst and Manager of Imaging Research and +Development at the Quad/Tech division of Quad/Graphics in Wisconsin. Dr. Bruce +Maccabee, optical physicist for the U.S. Naval defense lab in Maryland, was +also contacted and both Sainio and Maccabee were given the original of the +Polaroid photo for analysis. After two weeks of intensive tests and several +calls for additional information, such as weather reports and atmospheric +conditions, Jeff Sainio submitted his findings and returned the videos and +photo to the investigative team. The results: The UFO is genuine and not a +hoax. According to Sainio, in the first video, the UFO's speed in relation to +its size eliminates all aircraft as a cause, since known airplanes can't move +this fast. A 100-foot long fighter jet would need to move 300 feet, 3 times its +own length, in 1/30 second, or 9,000 feet per second or about 6,000 mph. below +clouds at 7, 000 feet. To stay below the sound barrier, a plane length of 10 +feet would be required. Of the second video, where the UFO is seen hovering +motionless over the Gulf and then fla shes off, Sainio says in The Islander, +"Initial calculations show the UFO accelerated, then slowed 20% and then +surpassed 2,000 mph, all in under l/lOth of a second!" Dr. Maccabee's +assessment of the March 24 video states, "A frame-by-frame analysis shows +that the object moved so fast it traveled several times its own length in each +frame, making rectangular images on the screen. It only took about one sec ond +to cross the nearly 30ø field of view of the camera. Unfortunately, the actual +speed cannot be determined because the distances are not known, but estimates +range from several hundred to several thousand mph corresponding to distance +estimates of 1,000 to 10,000 feet." + + Concerning the second tape, Dr. Maccabee stated, "The video +shows a compact image with a bright area which may be the sun glint from a +metal surface. As he tracked the object, it suddenly disappeared from his +viewfinder. When viewing t he video at normal playback speed, the object +appears to streak to the right, off the screen and almost too fast to see. +Frame analysis shows that the object accelerated at a tremendous rate. The +actual acceleration cannot be calculated because, again, the distance is not +known. However, if the assumed distances are only 1,000 feet, then the +videotape shows that it accelerated at about 500g's (500 times the acceleration +of gravity which is about 100 times greater than a jet) and reached a speed +twice t hat of sound before it passed out of view of the camera. Yet there was +no sound! At an assumed 1,000 ft. distance, the size of the object was a bit +less than 10 feet. For other assumed distances, the size, acceleration and +departing speed are proportiona l to the distance." Regarding the photo taken +on April 2, Dr. Maccabee said, "This photo shows a circular object to the south +at an angular of 60ø to 79ø. The sun in the east made a shiny glint at the left +side. In the perspective view from below, the object appe ars like a layer cake +with the upper layer having a larger diameter than the lower layer. The image +is too small and at the wrong angle to reveal any windows in the side of either +layer. There is a slight hint of a protuberance at the top, but this migh t be +a photographic artifact." As if all of this photographic evidence wasn't +enough, there's more! On Friday, April 21, Bland reported he received a color +slide and a map from a gentleman named Thomas "Bryant," a visiting elected +official from Alabama. The map pointed to a location called the Sugar Bowl in +the Big Sabine area, at the east e nd of Pensacola Beach. The slide showed a +beach scene of sand dunes, sea oats and shrub bushes but, most importantly, +what appears to be the same UFO that Martin "Allen" had photographed. The map +contained a hand written note dated April 2, and 2:30 pm a s the time of day. +Mr. Thomas "Bryant" who had withheld his name for political reasons, said, "At +first I told myself that what I saw had to be something from the military, but +I know of nothing that can suddenly appear, hover and disappear like it did." + + Both Sainio and Maccabee, I am told;, will have the opportunity to +analyze this slide, but according to Bland, there's no doubt it is the +identical craft that Martin "Allen" had photographed at 10:30 am that same day! +At this point, I could no longer wait to ask Bland the BlG question... were +these new objects the same ones that Ed Walters had photograpphed in 1987? +Bland's response was, "They could be brothers." I learned a few days later, +according to the story on the front page of The Islander, that both experts, +Sainio and Maccabee, agreed that "the overall shape of the object resembles, +but is not identical to, the shape of the objects photographed by Ed Walters." +Could it be that during "Bubba's" absence from July to November of 1992, that +its owner traded up to a newer model? Who knows, but stay tuned! This is an +on-going investigation that will probably continue for quite some time. In +conclusion, I would like to note that it is to the credit of the Gulf Breeze +investigators that they have "sat" on this story for over two months until they +and their independent experts had verified the evidence before releasing this +repor t to the public. Thanks for a job well done, guys ! + + Epilogue: In an earlier and, perhaps, related story, Bland Pugh was +the investigator on a case concerning mysterious markings at the first of this +year. In an article written for the May/June issue of the Florida MUFONNews, +Bland writes, "The story began on January 9, when "Bill" went to Pensacola +Beach at sundown to skywatch. It is not unusual for someskywatchers, myself +included, to go out by themselves. After parking, he set up his equipment for +what he hoped would be a sighting. He didn't have to wait long. Over the Gulf +appeared the bright light of the Gulf Breeze UFO. "Bill" looked at the object +through his 8x40 binoculars for a minute or so when he began to feel his face +flushing hot. Then his face felt like it had been exposed to cold for a long +period of time. Putting the binoculars down, he began to feel nauseated and +even a little faint. After about a minute, the dizziness seemed to be passing +somewhat. He looked for the UFO, but it was gone. "Bill" climbed into his +vehicle to regain his composure. By now, the time was something like 8:00 pm. +He headed for Shoreline Park where a skywatch was underway. He told the people +at the park about his experience and was standing around talking when he +discovered he'd hurt his hand. Noticing the small amount of blood on the back +of his right hand, "Bill" thought that he must have hit it on something while +gathering his equipment and putting it into his vehicle. He didn't think too +much about it after that. On Friday of the next week, "Bill" showed me his +hand and said he was a little concerned about it because it hadn't healed, only +gotten worse. When he first discovered the marks, they were only small +perforations. They progressively got larger . Towards the first of the week, +the enlargement of each separate wound prompted him to call a doctor about it, +as it was very unusual in nature. The wound consisted of a circle of seven +separate and evenly spaced punctures, with one in the center. When "Bill" +talked to the doctor, he was told that he had "seen this type of wound +before." As of this writing, the circles are still visible on "Bill's" hand. He +has asked me to write this article in hopes that anyone with a similar mark +would contact him through me. Please write me (Bland Pugh) at P.O. Box 6111, +Gulf Breeze, FL 3 2561. All replies will be kept confidential. Please include +your address, telephone number and, if possible, a picture of the affected area +ONLY." + +In my 20-minute conversation with Bland on Sunday evening, June 20, I asked, +since Bland had been the investigator on this case, if he felt the incident may +have been hoaxed. Bland's response was "No," based on two reasons. First, the +integrity of the w itness who, surprisingly, did not feel that he had been +abducted or was missing any time and, secondly, the flood of similar accounts +he has recelved since the reporting of this incident in The Islander and the +Florida MUFON News. + + People in southern Florida, several other Eastern states, and as far +away as England have also recounted mysterious wounds forming exactly the same +pattern on different extremities. Bland added that one case in Oklahoma dated +as far back as 1981. As it now appears that this new Gulf Breeze case is not +an isolated incident or unique in its character. Bland tends to feel the +circular pattern of wounds is genuinely of a mysterious nature and, therefore, +is deserving of further investigation. In response to the question concerning +the cause of these markings, Bland said at the present time, he has no idea, +nor has he heard of any theories being advanced on what is producing this +peculiar pattern of marks. Is the mystery UFO-related, or is this another +"syringe in the Pepsi can" phenomenon? Only time will tell. Meanwhile, the +investigation and reports of additional cases continue. All I can say is to +keep looking up and behind you... you don't know what may be watching you! + +** End ** + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2738.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2738.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9f83b250 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2738.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,329 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON THE FACE ON MARS FILE: UFO2738 + + + + +This file is an ASCII version of the Executive Summary from "THE +McDANIEL REPORT," a 200-page analysis of the methodology +employed by researchers studying enigmatic objects on the surface +of Mars, including the well-known "face." The report also analyzes +NASA's policy regarding these objects. The author is Professor +Emeritus and former Chairman of the Philosophy Department at +a California State University. The file should be of interest not +only to those curious about the "Face on Mars," phenomenon, but +also to any persons studying Mars and Mars exploration. +------------------------------------------------ +INTRODUCTION to the ASCII version: + +The subject of the "Face on Mars" has been regularly discussed +on computer forums. In general, the discussion has been hampered +by rampant misinformation, and frequently by apparently deliberate +disinformation. The excerpt from "The McDaniel Report" provided +below is offered in the spirit of rational inquiry, in the hope that it +will assist in upgrading the level of the discussion. However, the +issues surrounding the "Face on Mars" phenomenon go beyond +those in the "paranormal" and "ET" forums. The role of govern- +ment in science, the appropriate methodologies for studying +and evaluating objects on planetary surfaces by remote imaging, +and the ethical principles affecting SETI research, +are among the issues raised in the report. It is hoped that +this file, therefore, will be made available in the "general" +sections of computer forums on science. + +Statements made in the summary below are documented +and explained in detail in the full report. This material is +under copyright and all rights are reserved. Copies of this file +may be transferred to other computer forums provided +the material is unchanged. Inquiries may be directed to: +Professor S. V. McDaniel, 1055 W. College Avenue #273 +Santa Rosa, CA 95401. (Internet 75320.3666@compuserve.com) +------------------------------------------------ + +EXECUTIVE SUMMARY - The McDaniel Report + +Since 1979, a number of highly qualified independent +investigators have engaged in an extensive analysis of photographs +taken by the 1976 Viking Mars mission. These photographs appear +to be evidence that some landforms in the Martian region called +Cydonia may be artificial. + +A comprehensive analysis of the data supporting this +hypothesis, using established criteria for scientific +methodology, shows that the methods of research pursued by the +independent investigators are basically sound. There is a reasonable +doubt as to the natural origin of the Cydonian objects. Reputable +scientists in several fields, including physics, astronomy, and +geology, have expressed their confidence in the overall integrity of +this report and have called for further active investigation of these +landforms by NASA. Among them are Dr. Robert M. Schoch, +Associate Professor of Science and Mathematics (geology), Boston +University; Dr. Horace Crater, Professor of Physics, University of +Tennessee Space Institute; Dr. David Webb, Professor of Space +Education, Research, and Technology at Embry-Riddle University, +Daytona Beach, Florida; Dr. Thomas Van Flandern, former Head, +Celestial Mechanics Branch, U. S. Naval Observatory; James +Berkland, former Assistant Professor of Geology, Appalachian State +University; and L. J. Angstrom, the great-grandson of the famous +physicist A. J. Angstrom and Director of the prestigious Angstrom +Foundation in Stockholm, Sweden. + +However, during the seventeen years since the +controversial landforms were discovered, NASA has +maintained steadfastly that there is "no credible evidence" +that any of the landforms may be artificial. A close look at +NASA's arguments reveals that NASA's "evaluation" has +consisted largely of initial impressions from unenhanced +photographs, heavily weighted by faulty reasoning +(thoroughly documented in this report). NASA has failed to +apply any special methods of analysis; it has relied upon +flawed reports; it has failed to attempt verification of the +enhancements and measurements made by others; and it +has focused exclusively on inappropriate methodology +which ignores the importance of context. There remains no +scientific basis for NASA's position regarding the +landforms. + +Finally, NASA has based its evaluation almost +exclusively on the alleged existence of disconfirming +photographs which it has never identified, and has +recently admitted it is unable to identify. + +Instead of carrying out legitimate scientific inquiry, +NASA has regularly sent false and misleading statements +regarding the landforms to members of Congress and their +constituents. NASA has condoned efforts to unfairly +ridicule and discredit independent researchers, and has +insisted that there is a "scientific consensus" that the +landforms are natural despite the fact that the only real +scientific study of the landforms indicates a clear +possibility that they are artificial. + +Of the various landforms investigated by the +independent teams and individuals, the one that began the +research, referred to as the "Face" because of its +resemblance to a humanoid face, has undergone one of the +most exhaustive series of tests for the evaluation of digital +images originating from an interplanetary probe available +to scientists today. The data collected in the course of +these investigations appears to be highly reliable. + +The most advanced techniques of image enhance- +ment, photoclinometry and fractal analysis, confirmed by +cross-checking and thoroughly documented, have been +used. The investigators are acknowledged experts in their +fields with strong academic and professional qualifications. +In every test, the data has consistently tilted in the +direction of artificial, rather than natural, origin. +Moreover, the various tests performed, including +anthropometric and aesthetic evaluation, have been +mutually cross-confirming. + +In September 1992 a new spacecraft, the Mars +Observer, was launched. Now reported lost, the Mars +Observer carried a camera capable of taking high- +resolution photographs that would almost certainly have +settled the question of artificiality. But NASA's position +regarding the priority assigned to photographs of the +landforms has been throughout to resist any consideration +of their possible artificial origin. NASA's equivocal +statements on the issue of priorities indicated a clear +likelihood that new photographs of the suspect landforms +would not be obtained, or would not be released if they +were obtained. + +If NASA's Mars Observer policy remains +unchanged, future missions to Mars will almost certainly +not include any meaningful effort to settle the question of +artificiality. NASA is in the process of evaluating options +for a new Mars launch as early as October, 1994. As of this +writing, the selection of the spacecraft and instrumenta- +tion to be used for a new launch is under way. Allowing +the previous policy to dominate in a new mission would +constitute a reprehensible abdication of a clear and +compelling social responsibility. + +In 1960, a report titled Proposed Studies on the +Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human +Affairs was delivered to the Chairman of NASA's +Committee on Long-Range Studies. The report was +prepared under contract to NASA by the Brookings +Institution, Washington, D.C. The report outlines the need +to investigate the possible social consequences of an +extraterrestrial discovery and to consider whether such a +discovery should be kept from the public in order to avoid +political change and a possible "devastating" effect on +scientists themselves due to the discovery that many of +their own most cherished theories could be at risk. + +The concept of withholding information on a +possible extraterrestrial discovery conflicts with an +understood NASA policy to the effect that information on +a verified discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence should +be shared promptly with all humanity. A report on the +cultural aspects of the search for extraterrestrial intelli- +gence (SETI) is presently being prepared for publication +by the NASA Ames Research Center. In this report, the +position that NASA would not withhold such data from the +public is said to be strongly supported. + +NASA's actual behavior in the specific case of the +Martian objects, however, does not appear to be consistent +with this policy. NASA has regularly distributed +documents containing false or misleading statements +about its evaluation of the Face to members of Congress +and to the public. The absence of legitimate scientific +evaluation of the landforms by NASA, its ignoring of the +relevant research, its apparently exaggerated warnings +that such photographs would be extremely difficult to +obtain, the possible sequestering of the data under the +aegis of "private contract," and the ambiguous language +used by NASA officials to generate a sense of complacency +around the issue all support the suspicion of a motivation +contrary to the stated policy. + +When forwarded inquiries from constituents by +United States Senators and Representatives, NASA has +provided answers which may appear plausible to the +uninformed, but which cannot withstand even the +slightest logical scrutiny. Among the various misleading +assurances given by NASA are those having to do with +NASA's policy for Mars Observer Camera data release. On +the first mission to Mars in seventeen years, with growing +public interest in the artificiality hypothesis and NASA's +vigorous resistance to that hypothesis, NASA made a +radical change in the way photographic data from the +spacecraft would be handled. Unlike previous missions, +there was to be no conveyance of camera data to the public +as soon as it was received and converted into viewable +images (what is often called "live" transmission). Instead, +images from the Mars Observer Camera would be under +the exclusive control of a private contractor for up to six +months after acquisition. + +This same private contractor had been given sole +authority to determine, not only what images would be +released and when, but even what objects would be +photographed by the high resolution camera. That +contractor, Dr. Michael Malin, is an outspoken opponent of +the hypothesis of possible artificiality. Dr. Malin's +arguments against the hypothesis of possible artificiality +have been uniformly fallacious (as is thoroughly detailed +in the report). Thus the interests of the American public in +relation to Mars Observer Camera data were effectively +turned over to the evidently biased decisions of a private +individual. + +The credibility gap widened as NASA, using +contractual technicalities, insisted that it was treating +Mars Observer imaging data "no differently" than data +from previous missions despite the fact that the end +result would have been radically different as far as +immediate public access and public accountability were +concerned. It is impossible, from a logical standpoint, to +see NASA's efforts to claim "no change in previous policy" +as anything but a transparent attempt at misdirection. + +In the face of growing public clamor, NASA also +began to make assurances that the "Cydonia region" +where the landforms are located was scheduled to be +photographed by the high-resolution Camera. NASA +clearly attempted to put the public at ease by making it +appear that the landforms would likely be photographed +because of NASA's general interest in the geology of the +"region." But the Cydonia region is a vast area, and high- +resolution photography would cover only a very small +percentage of that area. No special priority for the +landforms in question has ever been contemplated. Under +the standing policy, the likelihood is high that the +landforms will not be photographed, regardless of +assurances about the "region." + +Given the importance of the subject and the urgent +need to take action, I have put forward the following +recommendations. These recommendations apply to the +Mars Observer mission in the event the spacecraft is +recovered, and to any future missions, including a mission +specifically to replace the Mars Observer. + +1. Assuming Mars Observer is not recovered, NASA will +select a replacement spacecraft carrying instrumentation +capable of achieving high-resolution imaging of the +Martian surface at least superior to that of the Viking +missions of 1976, and having the highest degree of camera +flexibility possible, including pointing capability. + +2. NASA and any private contractor who may be involved +in imaging, by agreement, will assign a level of priority to +the suspect landforms that will ensure the obtaining of +high-resolution photographs of those landforms, using all +means at their disposal, subject only to uncertainties +beyond their control. This priority level will be entered +into the imaging Target Data Base and taken into +consideration in mission sequencing. The stated purpose of +taking such photographs will include the possibility that +they are of artificial origin. + +3. The camera operator will plan for and initiate high- +resolution imaging sequences on every occasion (20 to 30 +times in the case of Mars Observer) during which the +spacecraft groundtrack is within the area from 8 to 10 deg. +longitude, such that the image strips include the area 40.4 +to 41.2 deg. N. latitude. + +4. All imaging data gathered during camera passes over +the area specified above will be placed in the category +"newsworthy" and will not be subject to the proprietary +aspects of any Principal Investigator's contract with +NASA. This includes the raw data prior to processing, but +after the camera data has been separated from that of +other instrumentation. + +5. The scientific community and the general public will be +given advance notice, within the constraints of +predictability, as to when each such pass will occur, in +order to prepare to receive the data. + +6. The raw data for the specific area indicated above will +be released to scientists and to the public upon receipt at +JPL with no time delay. + +7. Video image conversion of data received in the same +passes will be released in a continuous stream to NASA +Select-TV, PBS, and others who desire to receive it. NASA +will be held accountable for any inordinate delay between +receipt of the raw data and release of video imagery. No +delay should occur other than the minimum time period +necessary for computers to convert the data to video form. +NASA should provide in advance specific technical details +of what procedures are necessary for conversion and how +long they are likely to take. + +8. Video image conversion of all high-resolution camera +activity, regardless of location on the planet's surface, will +be released in a continuous stream to NASA Select-TV, +PBS, and others who desire to receive it throughout the +course of the mission. Because of its extreme importance, +this data release will take precedence over regular NASA +programming for as long as is necessary to achieve the +goal of providing the public with open access to the data +that may settle the question of artificiality. + +9. A blue-ribbon interdisciplinary panel of independent +scientists and lay persons should be appointed to inquire +into the circumstances surrounding NASA's questionable +behavior in regard to the suspect landforms in particular, +and NASA's concept of SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial +Intelligence) methodology with respect to the solar system, +particularly Mars and the Moon. Among the panel's +charges should be the undertaking of an unbiased +scientific evaluation of the data gathered by the +independent researchers to date, and an oversight +committee to monitor NASA's compliance with the +additional recommendations set forth above. +------------------------------------------------------ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2739.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2739.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..34814fae --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2739.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON THE MEN IN BLACK FILE: UFO2739 + + + + + + SUBJECT: MEN IN BLACK . . . + + + In the past , a certain number of people often come around, they ask + people who see space crafts all sorts of questions, then after they get + the information they would threaten them with everything in the book , + if they didn t shut up about the sighting. They were called "THE MEN IN + BLACK" because they wore black suits and drove black cars. My teacher + once told me not to attack them because they would just do away with + me. He said that my elder brothers would take care of them. Due to the + fact that the information is coming out about them now, it seems that + it should be O.K. for me to repeat the information, so here goes; + + They are from the Sirius star system. Although most of the "good" + type beings are from that system, such as Kadar, they refer to the men + in black's planet as a rather , unsightly planet;; and from their frame + of reference, they do not claim them to be their own, but they must + acknowledge that they are, even within their dimension, located within + our system. They do have the ability to change alter their appearances, + some- what,. Our U.S. government is now cooperating with the Sirians; + and the question was asked, what is the power that the entire + government has to go along with them? They have weapon sources, (I must + circumspect...) that are believed by the powers on this planet, to be + absolutely dominating. In other words, the government believes they are + looking down the barrel of a very big gun. The Sirians are in the + second dimension soon to go into the third. We are in the third, soon + to go into the fourth. The sirians are trying to prevent us from going + into the fourth dimension. + + The negative Sirians are involved with these cattle mutilations + because of their desire create a species that can perpetuate itself in + the harshest of conditions. + + The people from Zeta Reticuli aren't doing the mutilations, but the + "primitive" Zeta reticulans, which are from (what we would consider) to + be from the the past, (please don't ask me to explain! J.W) are helping + the Sirians. + + One of the beings that was being interviewed while he was asleep is + called B'zal. You talk about a tough dude. . . He would make the worst + person on earth look like Mr. Rogers. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2740.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2740.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..75c93b9e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2740.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +SUBJECT: M.I.B. EXPERIENCE - 1976 FILE: UFO2740 + + + + + M.I.B. EXPERIENCE - 1976 * + ---------------------------- + + In 1976 the journal "Flying Saucer Review" published a series of + articles about a UFO case in Maine. A physician, Dr. Herbert Hopkins, + had been one of the primary investigators in the case. Hopkins had + accumulated tapes and other documentation on the case and had performed + extensive hypnotic regression on the witnesses. + + On Saturday, September 11, 1976, at 8:00 p.m. Hopkins received a + telephone call from a man asking if he could come over and discuss the + UFO case with him. The man said he was associated with a UFO group in + new jersey. The man asked Hopkins if he was home alone. Hopkins + responded he was. Despite concerns about drug-related robbery, Hopkins + found himself agreeing to the request. + + Although Hopkins was a bit confused by his positive reply to the man, + he walked to the back door to turn on the porch light. When he got to + the door, the man was coming up the steps. This concerned Dr. Hopkins, + he could not figure out where the man could have called from and arrive + so quickly at his doorstep. Still, Hopkins opened the door and let the + man in without even asking the man who he was or what he wanted. + + The man's appearance was strange; he was about 5'8" tall, no hair - + completely bald, had no eyelashes, no eyebrows. He was dressed in a + neatly pressed black suit with a black derby and black shoes. Hopkins + noticed the man was extremely pale, but had ruby red lips. Hopkins + noticed the man was wearing lipstick and grey gloves. + + The man asked a number of questions about the Maine UFO case, speaking + in a monotone voice and did not emphasize words in his sentences. + + Suddenly, the man told Hopkins that he had two coins in his pocket and + to take one out and put it in his hand. Hopkins only had two coins in + his pocket and he pulled a penny out. + + The man told Hopkins to stare at the penny. As he watched the penny + became blurry and disappeared. The man then asked Hopkins what he knew + of Barney Hill. Hopkins said Barney died after a long illness. The man + told him he died because he knew too much. + + Hopkins was taken by fear at this point. The man told Hopkins to + destroy all his notes, tapes messages he had concerning the + investigation immediately. The man stood up, and began talking much + slower. each word dragged as the man slowly walked to the door. Hopkins + opened the door for the man, and he walked down the steps very slowly. + + Hopkins saw a light at the end of the driveway, and thought it was from + the man's car, but the man walked in the opposite direction. Hopkins + ran to a window to see where the man was going, but he was not there. + He ran to the door, looked out, but the man and the light were gone. + + When his family returned, he and his son looked in their driveway, and + they found a series of four-inch wide tracks about eighteen inches + long. They were deep into the driveway and resembled tracks from a + tractor. The marks disappeared the next day. that evening, Hopkins + destroyed his UFO records. + + [From "People of The Web", by Gregory L. Little, copyright 1990] + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2741.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2741.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..58e41777 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2741.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,160 @@ +SUBJECT: MICHIGAN UFO SIGHTINGS 03/94 FILE: UFO2741 + + + +ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ + +Interest Soars In Recent UFO Sighting Over Lake + +from the Grand Rapids (MI) Press - Sunday, March 13, 1994 + +By Michael G. Walsh +Grand Rapids Press News Service + +A UFO Group sends a team to investigate the sightings, which were picked up on +radar. + +MUSKEGON -- A West Michigan UFO sighting is prompting worldwide interest +because the phenomenon was not only seen by several people but also was +picked up on radar. + +Walter Andrus, director of the Texas-based international Mutual UFO Network, +said the radar veriflcation is extremely rare. + +"That's why we're especialy interested in this case,' Andrus said. Several +MUFON investigators were to be in West Michigan this weekend to probe +Monday's sighting. + +"What impressed us most is that it was picked up on weather radar, 20 miles +out in Lake Michigan, moving east to west," Andrus said. + +"We're interested in knowing if anyone in (West Michigan) saw it pass over, +then we'd have a real confirmation ," he said. + +The case started about 10:15 p.m. Monday when a Holland police officer and +others in Ottawa Couniy noticed sets of red and green lights "oscillating" +over Lake Michigan south of Holland. + +At the same time, tower personnel at the Muskegon County Airport saw what +they took to be aircraft flying in formation some 60 miles south, near +South Haven. + +Simultaneously, a National Weather Service oporator picked up radar blips +that found a fast-moving object near South Haven. + +Leo Grenier, official in charge of oporations at Muskegon's National Weather +Service station, said the most interesting aspect of the phenomenon was the +object's - or objects - speed. + +The radar blips zipped from South Haven to 10 miles west of the city, over +Lake Michigan, in 10 seconds, Grenier said. + +The speed is not beyond human ability. Modern military aircraft can fly +even faster. + +However, unlike known aircraft, the South Haven phenomenon could hover and +was quiet. There were no sonic "booms" reported. + +"To go out and hover over Lake Michigan is not what aircraft would be able +to do," Andrus "That's what becomes more interesting." + +Unidentified flying ojiects are not a new phenomenon to West Michigan skies, +but what they are remains a mystery. + +A review of sightings over the past year shows most occurred this time of +year, of what people believed were spaceships over Lake Michigan or remote +areas of West Michigan.. + +A few witnesses claimed they saw cylindrical shaped objects flying at +incredible speeds. Most reported mystic lights in the sky. + +Andrus said 80 percent to 90 percent of reports MUFON receives "turn out to +be something mundane after investigation." + +Nonetheless, Andrus said, "we take our UFOs very seriously" and he has +assigned a team to probe Monday's West Michigan sighting. + +About one or two sightings take place in the region each year, according to +Muskegon Chronicle files. However, between 1982 and 1993 none was reported. + +Most of the reported sightings had natural explanations. A sighting last +year, for example, turned out to be student pilots practicing their skills. + +-END- + +ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ +*@SUBJECT:Michigan UFO Newsclip 1993 N +UFO Sightings Match Thumb Reports + +Grand Rapids (MI) Press News Service + +(Exact date unknown - 1993) + +MUSKEGON -- Mysterious lights seen hovering over Oceana and Muskegon +counties Monday night match the description of an unidentified flyihg object +witnessed in Michigan's Thumb area over the last month, officials with an +international UFO organization said Wednesday. + +Shirley Coyne of Flint, state director for the Michigan chapter of the +Mutual UFO Network, said there have been at least 16 sightings of triangle- +shaped flying objects in eastern Michigan over the past month. Other areas +reporting UFOs within the last month include Caro, Cass City, Kingsley and +Lake Odessa. + +Like those seen in the Muskegon area, witnesses describe the objects as +triangles with round corners, accented with two red lights and one white +light. + +She said her organization is investigating the sightings including two home +videos taken of two separate UFOs. One recent sighting was of an object +estimated as 500 feet long, but most involve smaller triangles. + +"We've had a lot of reports like that," Coyne said. "What are they? No one +really knows. All we have is a lot of reports." + +On Monday, two Muskegon county residents described three lights in the form +of a triangle over Whitehall and minutes later over Muskegon. Since an +article appeared on the sightings Wednesday in the Muskegon Chronicle, that +newspaper has received other calls from residents with similar accounts, +some as far north as Shelby. + +All reported seeing a grouping of lights capable of moving very slowly, then +suddenly leaving the area at terrific speed. Area law enforcement officials +and air traffic controllers at Muskegon County Airport said they received no +reports on the sightings. + +Officials from the National Weather Service said they received one call from +a person who saw three lights in a triangle pattern Monday over Lake +Michigan. + +Linda Andrews, of Whitehall, said she was the person who made the call. +According to Andrews, she and her husband, Robert, were in the process of +dropping their car off for repairs Monday night in Whitehall when they saw +three bright lights hovering over Colby Street. + +She said the object they saw was similar to those described by other eyewit- +nesses - but had two white lights and a red light in a triangle- or V-shaped +pattern. Andrews said the red light was made up of three round lights. + +She said the lights occasiorially broke away from that formation and the two +white lights almost collided. She said her husband estimates the lights were +1,000 feet above the ground. The object moved slowly to the northeast and +was silent. + +"I was relieved to read that others reported seeing it too," she said. "My +husband got a lot of grief at work when he told his friends what he saw." + +Although Michigan residents typically report a large number of UFOs, the UFO +Network's Coyne said Florida residents now are reporting many sightings, +especially near Gulf Breeze. + +Reports of UFOs are investigated by the Mutual UFO Network. + +-END- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2742.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2742.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..adfe3e00 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2742.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,192 @@ +SUBJECT: MICHIGAN UFO NEWSCLIP 04\93 FILE: UFO2742 + + + +ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ + +UFO Watchers Look To The Stars In Hopes Of Seeing Fire In The Sky + +by Douglas Lila + +THE DETROIT NEWS - Monday, April 12, 1993 + +Aliens from outer space are saying yes to Michigan. + +And they're even taking state residents for a ride, say local UFO +-- unidentified flying object-- "watchers". + +The recently released movie _Fire in the Sky_ tells the supposedly true +story of Travis Walton, an Arizona Forest Service tree cutter who claims +he was abducted by aliens in November 1975. + +Such close encounters of the third kind -- contact with extraterrestrials +-- are happening right in our back yard, UFO students say. + +There have been 33 abductions in Michigan since Jan. 1, said Shirley Coyne, +statewide director of the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). + +Have any of these abductions been documented and publicized? "Absolutely +not," Coyne said. "People come to me in confidence. They don't come to me +to have their stories publicized. + +"These people are traumatized. This is not like driving down the road and +seeing a deer. These people have had a hard experience, and they don't want +to talk about it in public. More than 60 UFO sightings have been reported +in Michigan, according to MUFON. The most celebrated occurred 27 years ago +in the Dexter and Hillsdale areas. + +Officials wrote off reports of the pyramid-shaped object with blinking red +and blue lights as swamp gas, even though sheriff's deputies in Washtenaw +County engaged the UFO in a high speed chase. + +But skeptics say UFO watchers t should get their heads out of the clouds. + +"I've had some contact with MUFON in the past when they rented the Kellog +Center on campus," said Doug Murphy, program director for Michigan State +University's Abrams Planetarium. l believe they tend to look at this as a +religion, as opposed to a scientific point of view. They're very quick to +jump on the UFO bandwagon" + +Murphy agrees there have been a great number of UFO sightings, but said +most of them are explainable. + +Even President Carter was fooled by a bright object he saw that turned out +to be the Planet Venus," Murphy said. + +And he was trained in astral navigation at the Naval Academy. We get lots +of calls about people seeing unusual things in the sky. The absolute +bottom of my list would be a visit by "UFOs". + +According to Murphy, the odds are astronomically slim that an advanced +civilization would want to visit Earth. + +Our Milky Way is one of billions in the Universe," Murphy said. "If you were +to shrink it to the size of the United States, our solar system would fit +inside the palm of your hand. The nearest star would be a quarter mile away. +That gives you some idea, of the size and depth of space." + +Murphy gives an example of the relative distances a UFO would have to travel +to visit our planet. + +The United States launched Voyager in 1977," Murphy said. "Using the image +of the solar system being the size of your palm, Voyager would only have +travelled from the center of your hand to the edge of your palm in 12 years. +And thats traveling at 40,000 mph." + +But that does not stop people from reporting sightings: + +* In July 1952, officers at the Selfridge air base in Harrison Township were +swamped with late evening calls from residents who reported seeing mysterious +orange and blue lights and flying disks in the sky. +Among the witnesses were a World War II bomber pilot and a Baptist minister. + +* In October 1973, two Detroit police officers reported seeing a UFO with +red aad white flashing lighs at 6 a.m. while patroling near Marygrove +College. Both agreed it couldn't have been a airplane because, one said, +"Planes can't travel that fast straight up." + +* ln September 1967, three people, including a United Press lnterntional +business manager, reported seeing 8 UFOs behind an Air Force jet over +Detroit one night. They thought it was a bright star or weather balloon +until they noticed it was keeping up with the jet. The object atopped +completely for a minute, then sped away from the plane, they said. + +UFO devotees hope _Fire in the Sky_ will bring more people forward to +tell their tales of abduction. The movie focuses on Travis Walton, +then 22. He and five crew members were returning from a job on a back- +woods road near Heber, Ariz., about 100 miles southwest of Flagstaff, when +they saw a bright light. + +They said a UFO appeared in front of their truck. Walton got out to +investigate and was hit by a ray from the craft, the workers said. + +The remaining workers fled in terror. When they returned, Walton was +missing. Walton turned up several days later, and staggered into Heber, +supposedly suffering from shock and partial amnesia. + +Walton's story of abduction was revealed under hypnosis with three +physicians in attendance. ln his retelling, Walton described his exami- +nation in the spacecraft by aliens with large heads and hands that had +no fingernails. + +Others called Walton's story bunk. Philip J. Klass a retired senior editor +for Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine concluded Walton and logging +crew leader Michael Rogers concocted a hoax to win a National Enquirer UFO +-sighting contest and manufacture an excuse for missing a logging deadline. + +Walton, Rogers and the others split a $5,000 prize, but have denied any +hoax Klass said Walton flunked his first lie detector test, and respected +polygraph examiner John J. McCarthy concluded Walton committed "gross +deception," and, "in concert with others, is attempting to perpetrate a +UFO hoax. + +Coyne disputes Klass' findings saying: "I wouldn't give you 2 cents for +for Phil Klas. He's thebiggest debunker out there. He's an armchair inves- +tigator. He's a liar. He's never even talked to anyone who has been abducted. + +These abductions happen and they happen to people just like you and me. + +Does MSU's Muphy believe human beings have been abducted by UFOs? + +"Maybe I'm not the best person to ask about that,"Murphy said. "Talk to +to a psychologist. I think there are some disturbed people out there who +need some help." + +But he does believe life exists ouside the solar system. + +"The materials are all out there," Murphy said, "The substances of life are +found freely in space. If the conditions are right there's a good chance +that life does exist, but for it to be intelligent and want to visit us +is a huge stretch of the imagination." + +Coyne and other students of UFOs say the cynicism hasn't stopped them from +enjoying _Fire in the Sky_. + +"I thought it was well done," she said. "It sticks exactly to wht happened +to Travis Walton." + +Detroit News Staff writers Mike Best and Tom Greenwood contributed to +this report. + +-END- + +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-SIDEBAR- + +Most alien abduction storys share these elements: + +> A UFO is sighted. + +> Victims report a period of unaccounted, missing time. + +> Details of the abduction are revealed only after the victim undergoes + + hypnosis. + +> Someone appears to have medically examined the abducted victims. + +> Victims display psychological problems and sometimes physical after- + + effects. + +> Victims' story is substantiated with a lie detector test. + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +SIDEBAR: SOUNDOFF + +Have you ever seen a UFO? Tell us about your experiences. +Please include your name, town and a daytime phone number. +You can: + +> Fax your response at 222-2335. +> Call the hotline at 222-2284 or 222-2287. +> Or write Soundoff, The Detroit News, 615 W. Lafayette, Detroit MI 48226. + +-END- + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2743.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2743.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..bc36b7fa --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2743.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +SUBJECT: MISSING TIME FILE: UFO2743 + + + + + + The Sysop's Bookshelf + --------------------- + TITLE: Missing Time: A Documented Study of UFO Abductions + AUTHOR: Budd Hopkins + PUBLISHED BY: Marek + AT: New York, 1981 + VIEWPOINT: Zetetic + 258 Pages + + Budd Hopkins is an artist of no little repute, who has maintained an + interest. in the UFO phenomenon for 20 years. While writing a UFO + column for the Village Voice, he became involved in a particularly + fascinating aspect of the field,. the abduction cases. Starting with + the famed Betty and Barney Hill case, many. people claim to have been + actually taken aboard UFOs and examined by their humanoid occupants. In + most of these cases, the actual abduction is erased from the victim's + memory, leaving only a vague fearfulness and an unexplained lapse of + several hours -- missing time. The encounter with, and abduction by, + aliens is brought out only through the use of regressive hypnosis + + In this riveting book, Hopkins documents several abduction cases with + the transcripts of the actual hypnotic sessions. The basic accounts by + the various subjects so nearly match each other that there can be + almost no question of hallucination or fantasizing. Unless Hopkins has + written a work of total fiction, the reader is confronted with + inescapable evidence of alien encounters + + The most important contribution the book makes is to reinforce the + rather sketchy image we have of our visitors. The race we are dealing + with seems to be humanoid,.about 4-5 feet in height, with slender + bodies, bulbous, hairless heads, small mouths, nose and ears, and large + almond-shaped eyes. Their skin is grey, with a leathery quality, + alternately described as like "putty" or "marshmallowy". They almost + invariably communicate via a form of telepathy + + The presentation of this knowledge counteracts yet another of the many + insidious claims by arch-skeptic Phil Klass. In a letter to myself, + Klass maintained that "one of the characteristic fingerprints of + 'pseudo-science' that distinguishes it from true science is that the + passage of time and effort adds no increased knowledge, or + understanding, for pseudo-sciencetoday, 20 years after I entered the + field of UFOlogy, we do. not know an iota more about what UFOs 'really + are' than was 'known' two decades ago." It would seem, with the + publication of this book, that Klass himself has redefined UFOlogy as a + true science + + Now I'll offer a generalization of my own. One of the surest signs of + the truthfulness of a paranormal phenomenon is when the "explanation" + offered by. its would-be debunkers is more extraordinary than the claim + itself. Just what. do the skeptics make of the incredible tales told + under hypnosis in Missing Time? "A subconscious reliving of the birth + trauma." Besides being patently ludicrous on its face, this explanation + ignores the palpable physical evidence presented in the book -- scars + from wounds inflicted by the alien examiners Scars that appear, in many + cases, on the exact same place from victim to victim, and correlate + perfectly with the description of the "operation." + + SUMMARY: This is not a book I would recommend for those who prefer not + to believe that we are under surveillance. For the rest of us, it may + be the most important book written since the days of Donald Keyhoe + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2744.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2744.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..501d42c4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2744.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,51 @@ +SUBJECT: Q & A ON PROJECT SETI FILE: UFO2744 + + + + + + Sun 26 Apr 92 2:05 + By: Don Allen + To: All + Re: Q & A on "Project" Seti + + ** Forwarded from Usenet ** + + ========================================================================= + + From: Bob_Dixon + Subject: What is the Current Status of Project SETI? + Date: 21 Apr 92 15:21:57 GMT + + In response to Jon Noring's questions of Apr 17: + + There is no such thing as Project SETI. SETI is just an acronym that + stands for a particular field of research, like brain surgery. There are + many Projects around the earth, run by many different people and + organizations, that are engaged in the field of SETI. + + The longest-running SETI program on Earth is the one at here at Ohio + State. Another very important one is at Harvard. The only other + continuous program is one started recently in Argentina. + + NASA plans to start their own program next October, using various radio + telescopes around the world (primarily NASA-owned). + + The SETI detection protocol discussed earlier on this newsgroup + formalizes the distribution of any discoveries, making it unlikely that + they could be classified. But even without that, classification does not + seem to be a real threat. No government has ever mentioned such a + possibility. Nobody in a position to classify anything knows what is + going on day-by-day at any observatory. Surely the scientists involved + will notify one another at the various observatories before making any + announcement. By then it will be too late for classification to make any + difference. + + Bob Dixon + Director, OSU SETI Program + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2745.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2745.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..68c375d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2745.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +SUBJECT: THE OGRE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED ! FILE: UFO2745 + + + + + + The 'OGRE' has been identified! + + On the morning of August 6th at 4:05 am EDT Norman W. McLeod III and + Robert Reifer were out observing the Aquarid/Perseid meteor showers when + they noticed a 3rd magnitude flash near RA 22:55, DEC +10. The flash + lasted approximately 5 seconds and showed little motion to the naked eye. + On the morning of the 7th at 4:25 am they again saw the flash in the same + area. + + On the morning of the 8th they were prepared with a telescope and at 4:45 + am they again saw the flash. Robert proceeded to get the object in the + telescope and watched as the object faded to about 10th magnitude. He + then followed it in a southernly direction. With Robert following it in + the scope Norman saw it brighten again to 3rd magnitude and Robert + verified that it did. The object proceeded to fade again to about 10th + magnitude. This pattern was repeated 4 more times with the object being + lost at about RA 23:10, DEC -8. At this time I do not know how long a + period there was between flashes. The brightest flash was about 2nd + magnitude with the rest of the flashes peaking at about 3rd magnitude and + lasting approximately 5 seconds. + + The object producing these flashes appears to be a polar orbit satellite + in a period of 24 hours and 20 minutes. Norman predicts that they will + see the flashes again at 5:05 am EDT on the morning of the 9th and at + 5:25 am EDT on the morning of the 10th. If anyone else is able to check + for these flashes from other parts of the country it would be greatly + appreciated. The observing location is located at LAT 26 deg 32 min and + LONG 81 deg 30 min south of Lehigh Acres, Fla. + + Please send any reports to: + + Norman W. McLeod + 4232 Scott Ave. + Ft. Myers, FL 33905 + + This may finally settle the identity of the "OGRE". We couldn't identify + it as being a satellite because the only previous flashing satellites we + had seen were known to be geo-synchronous satellites. They had followed + the 24 hour 20 minute period however but they varied in intensity with + one bright flash followed by a half dozen or so naked eye flashes with + each one being a magnitude or so fainter. They were then followed in the + scope for another half dozen or so flashes until they leveled off at 9th + or 10th magnitude. They were definitely geo-synchronous because the + scope had to be locked in position with the motors off and they could be + followed for an hour or so. + + We are still wondering what is causing the flash on the satellite. I have + been told that lasers are used for position verification but I would like + someone to either support or deny that positively. Sunlight could also be + doing it but why for only a short period? + + In response to anyone saying that what they saw had only one flash and as + such couldn't have been a satellite like this take note of the first two + nights of sightings, Norman and Robert only saw it once. On the third + night when they were able to see where it was going did they finally see + it more than once. From personal experience observing many hours with + these two observers for them to have missed the secondary flashes means + that a lot of others could also have missed them. Norman can spot + anything out of the ordinary faster than anyone else I know. + + I will update this with Norman's report for the 9th and 10th. + + Brian Risley + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2746.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2746.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6b6dcad3 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2746.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,44 @@ +SUBJECT: OKLAHOMA MUFON ABDUCTION CASE FILE: UFO2746 + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + ARTICLE / OKLAHOMA MUFON + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + [From: Oklahoma Mufonews Newsletter January 1992] + + ABDUCTION + ~~~~~~~~~~~ + + We have completed another abduction case. There is always the likely + possibility that another session would bring out more data, but the + expense, time and effort control just how many sessions a particular + case will have. There are still many people waiting for regressions. + + In this particular case, the individual was contacted twice. The first + time was when he was a child. Memories caused him to remember a small + fragment of the incident which in turn caused him to fear darkness and + being alone in a house. The second time occurred just a year ago. + + Indications are that the victim will not have further interruptions. + He and his wife talked over whether the victim should undergo hypnotic + regression. They decided to have the work done. The very next + morning a tiny bump at the base of the skull, on his neck, was missing + and a small hole had appeared. Too, where a rash had previously been, + a small crescent scar was found. + + Generally, the case was rather classic. The account ran pretty much + like so many other abduction cases. We are very excited about this + one, though, for experiences and descriptions came forward that have + not been published, yet, other abductees have reported similar + experiences. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2747.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2747.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..805077e4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2747.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,163 @@ +SUBJECT: ALIEN IMPLANTS IN HUMANS FILE: UFO2747 + + + + + + Filename: Omni-8.Art + Type : Article + Author : Paul McCarthy + Date : 06/01/91 + Desc. : Alien Implants in Humans + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The following article was originally published in the science magazine + OMNI. It is reproduced here exactly as it appeared in its original + form, without so much as a misplaced comma, period, or question mark. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + From "OMNI"--June 1991 + + CAN UFO RESEARCHERS PROVE THAT ALIENS ARE TAGGING AND TRACKING + HUMANS WITH TINY DEVICES IMPLANTED IN THE BODY OR BRAIN? + by Paul McCarthy + + + One of the most insidious forms of alien technology ever reported by + UFO buffs is the implant--a BB-like object said to be inserted in the + brains or bodies of UFO abductees. According to some UFO advocates, + E.T.'s use these tiny devices to tag and track human abductees just as + earthbound wildlife specialists tag and track animals. + + But how can anyone know whether a reputed implant is real or not? + How, some UFO investigators have begun to wonder, can they authenticate + an implant should a sample emerge? + + One person addressing this issue is David Pritchard, a physicist at + the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. According to Pritchard, no + matter how strange the structure or material of an alleged implant, if + it is not some "out of this world" material like "heavy metals or quark + matter" it won't be possible to convince a lot of people. + + But, Pritchard adds, there are other ways to skin the cat. For + example, researchers could peg an insert as such if it worked like a + flashlight but was a hundred times brighter than any flashlight on + Earth. If the implant sent complex but unrecognizable signals, he says, + "that would be pretty convincing as well." Finally, Pritchard believes, + evidence would mount if investigators found the exact same type of + implant in numerous people making abduction claims. + + Yet another means of studying the so-called alien implant is a high- + tech imaging technique called magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI. The + technique was tapped by reputed abductee Whitley Strieber, who says he + remembers the insertion of needles in his head. His MRI brain scans, he + adds, now show strange white spots. "Are the unknown objects in my + brain an outcome of such intrusions?" Strieber asked in his recent + book, TRANSFORMATION. Pritchard says the dots prove nothing; they could + be air bubbles. But a statistical argument could be made he adds, if + researchers can show that professed UFO abductees have significantly + more dots than a random control group. + + Longtime UFO skeptic Phil Klass, who doesn't believe that aliens have + ever come to Earth, takes a different tack. First, he says, he would + want to know "where the implant came from," and would feel more + confident if it had been removed by a surgeon. Then, if it were + something "that could not form naturally in the body," he would want to + know if it could be made with terrestrial technology. If the answer to + that is no, says Klass, "I think you have your proof." + + Even more skeptical is Robert Sheaffer, author of THE UFO VERDICT, + who says the whole question of UFO abductions is dubious and that the + idea of alien implants is "certainly rubbish." According to Sheaffer, + the UFO is a slippery phenomenon that always manages to fade away + before the evidence becomes too convincing, and alien implants are an + example of this. "Some people might be saying they were kidnapped by + aliens for the money," says Sheaffer. "Others might be doing it because + they really believe that they were abducted. But there is not a shred + of evidence to substantiate this claim. Alien implants are just too + good to be true." + + According to UFO abduction expert Budd Hopkins, author of MISSING + TIME, and INTRUDERS, a number of radiologists are privately doing MRI + scans on people who claim they have been abducted by aliens--and that + the aliens have inserted devices in their bodies or brains. But a + neurosurgeon advised him that if, as claimed, implants exist somewhere + above the upper nasal passages, then they are near the optic nerve. In + that case, he says, "it would be very risky for a surgeon to try to get + one out." What does Hopkins say about the prospect of actually + validating these wierd alien implants? "It'd have devastating societal + impact," he says, "I am not looking forward to something like this." + + One of the most insidious forms of alien technology ever reported by + UFO buffs is the implant--a BB-like object said to be inserted in the + brains or bodies of UFO abductees. According to some UFO advocates, + E.T.'s use these tiny devices to tag and track human abductees just as + earthbound wildlife specialists tag and track animals. + + But how can anyone know whether a reputed implant is real or not? + How, some UFO investigators have begun to wonder, can they authenticate + an implant should a sample emerge? + + One person addressing this issue is David Pritchard, a physicist at + the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. According to Pritchard, no + matter how strange the structure or material of an alleged implant, if + it is not some "out of this world" material like "heavy metals or quark + matter" it won't be possible to convince a lot of people. + + But, Pritchard adds, there are other ways to skin the cat. For + example, researchers could peg an insert as such if it worked like a + flashlight but was a hundred times brighter than any flashlight on + Earth. If the implant sent complex but unrecognizable signals, he says, + "that would be pretty convincing as well." Finally, Pritchard believes, + evidence would mount if investigators found the exact same type of + implant in numerous people making abduction claims. + + Yet another means of studying the so-called alien implant is a high- + tech imaging technique called magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI. The + technique was tapped by reputed abductee Whitley Strieber, who says he + remembers the insertion of needles in his head. His MRI brain scans, he + adds, now show strange white spots. "Are the unknown objects in my + brain an outcome of such intrusions?" Strieber asked in his recent + book, TRANSFORMATION. Pritchard says the dots prove nothing; they could + be air bubbles. But a statistical argument could be made he adds, if + researchers can show that professed UFO abductees have significantly + more dots than a random control group. + + Longtime UFO skeptic Phil Klass, who doesn't believe that aliens have + ever come to Earth, takes a different tack. First, he says, he would + want to know "where the implant came from," and would feel more + confident if it had been removed by a surgeon. Then, if it were + something "that could not form naturally in the body," he would want to + know if it could be made with terrestrial technology. If the answer to + that is no, says Klass, "I think you have your proof." + + Even more skeptical is Robert Sheaffer, author of THE UFO VERDICT, + who says the whole question of UFO abductions is dubious and that the + idea of alien implants is "certainly rubbish." According to Sheaffer, + the UFO is a slippery phenomenon that always manages to fade away + before the evidence becomes too convincing, and alien implants are an + example of this. "Some people might be saying they were kidnapped by + aliens for the money," says Sheaffer. "Others might be doing it because + they really believe that they were abducted. But there is not a shred + of evidence to substantiate this claim. Alien implants are just too + good to be true." + + According to UFO abduction expert Budd Hopkins, author of MISSING + TIME, and INTRUDERS, a number of radiologists are privately doing MRI + scans on people who claim they have been abducted by aliens--and that + the aliens have inserted devices in their bodies or brains. But a + neurosurgeon advised him that if, as claimed, implants exist somewhere + above the upper nasal passages, then they are near the optic nerve. In + that case, he says, "it would be very risky for a surgeon to try to get + one out." What does Hopkins say about the prospect of actually + validating these wierd alien implants? "It'd have devastating societal + impact," he says, "I am not looking forward to something like this." + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2748.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2748.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e82365ad --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2748.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON LINDA NAPOLITANO CASE FILE: UFO2748 + + + + + + Filename: Omni0492.Art + Type : Article + Author : Anita Baskin + Date : 04/??/92 - Omni April 1992 Issue + Desc : Linda Napolitano Case + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + OMNI Magazine April 1992 Page 75 + + ANTIMATTER + + HIGH-RISE UFO ABDUCTIONS: + Alien abductions rountinely occur in big cities and high-rise + buildings around the world. + + By Anita Baskin + + If you had to guess the perfect time and place for a UFO abduction, + you would probably choose a deserted country road late at night. But + according to Budd Hopkins, author of two books on UFO adbuction, the + idea that aliens only snatch people from desolate areas is a myth. In + reality, Hopkins claims, abductions routinely occur in big cities + around the world. + + But there's one catch: Alien craft do not actually land in populated + areas, Hopkins explains. Instead, they hover 15, 20, or even 30 floors + up and abduct people through windows. "I know it seems impossible that + this could happen in a place like New York City," Hopkins contends, + "yet it goes on alot." + + "What's more," he adds, "high-rise abductions are extraordinarily + similar to their rural counterparts." Indeed, like the rural variety, + urban abductions occur in the wee hours of the morning. Urban + abductees, like their country cousins, report unpleasant medical exams + aboard the alien craft. And virtually all abductees say they've been + abducted repeatedly since childhood, regardless of their address. "If + they pick you up, they pick you up when you're a child, and you're like + a tagged elk," says Hopkins. "You're part of the ongoing thing." + + Linda Nap (not her real name) is a typical high-rise abductee. Nap, a + secretary, claims that she was first abducted from her family's home on + the fifteenth floor of a Manhattan apartment building at the age of + six. Nap vividly recalls "a toy top with lights" on the roof of a + neighboring building and says that paralysis and fear were all part of + the bizarre childhood events. She is especially keen to describe an + abduction which she claims took place in the fall of 1989. "I was in + bed in my twelfth-floor apartment on Manhattan's East Side," she says. + Suddenly she found herself standing outside her window bathed in a + blue-white light. + + "They'll get you anywhere," adds Gerald Chamberlain, a trombone + player who performs on Broadway. "When skies are overcast after dark, + there can be 50 UFOs sitting 200 feet off the ground of a big city, and + no one will know it." According to Chamberlain, aliens abducted him + from his backyard in Refugio, Texas, when he was a child, in 1953. He + also says he has been abducted "more times than I can count" from his + six-story apartment in Upper Manhattan, since the 1980s. + + But if so many UFOs are visiting densely populated areas and + abducting victims, how is it that none have ever been documented? + According to Chamberlain, the aliens can "erase any episode from the + minds of witnesses. They can tell an entire borough to forget what they + saw. I recently saw a UFO in Queens. I was yelling and pointing and + there must have been 40 people in the street, but nobody looked. People + just don't watch the sky. Especially in the city. They just don't look + up." + + "Crazy as all this sounds," adds Hopkins, "if one can accept the idea + of a craft that's circular, can stop on a dime, make right-angle turns, + and go almost instantly from zero to God-knows-what speed, then one has + to accept that these craft can visit the city,too." + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2749.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2749.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ded4252a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2749.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +SUBJECT: RUSSIAN VIEW OF ALIENS FILE: UFO2749 + + + + + + Filename: Omni0792.Art + Type : Article + Author : Patrick Huyghe + Date : 07/??/92 (July 1992 Issue Omni Magazine) + Desc : Russian view of aliens + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Omni Magazine July 1992 Page 72 + + RUSSIA'S ALIEN IDEAS + By Partick Huyghe + + Westerners were intrigued back in 1989 when the Soviet news agency, + Tass, reported the claims of some school children from the city of + Voronezh. A spectacular UFO landed in town, the children insisted, + along with its ten-foot-tall occupant toting a tube-shaped gun. + Scrutinizing the Tass report, the Western press assumed the Russians + were letting off steam after years of censorship. Some UFO buffs in the + United States called the episode a hoax, but one Western scientist + ignored the ridicule and left for Moscow instead. + + In January of 1990, Jacques Vallee, a computer scientist regarded by + many as the world's major UFO researcher, held a week-long series of + meetings with the Soviet Union's leading UFO lights. He met with a + scientist who'd studied the mysterious explosion that had rattled the + Tunguska region of Russia in 1908 and with an ex-Soviet Naval officer + who detailed his UFO sightings by Navy personnel. But according to + Vallee, the most compelling sighting was the one in Voronezh itself. + + In his new book, UFO Chronicles of the Soviet Union (Ballantine, + 1992), Vallee describes the cast of dozens--adults as well as children- + -who reportedly witnessed the spherical Voronezh craft, its three-eyed + giant, and an accompanying robot. He also cites engineers who examined + an imprint allegedly left by the craft, an object they claimed weighed + 11 tons. While Vladimir Migulin, a member of the Soviet Academy of + Sciences, attributed the markings to a rocket launched from Volvograd, + Vallee does not agree. "Migulin's skeptical attitude," he says, "is not + very different from what you would get from our own National Academy of + Science." + + Why does Vallee believe the Soviet sightings are for real? The weight + of the craft, he notes, was "in the range of estimates reached by + French scientists studying physical markings left by UFO landings in + France." And though the beings bore no resemblance to the familiar, + short, Hollywood-style UFOnauts, they were similar to aliens reportedly + seen "in a very similar case in Argentina in 1978." + + Vallee's sojourn--and his ideas--have taken fellow UFOlogists by + surprise. Some wonder how scientific the Russians really are, given + that they regularly use dousing to gather information about UFO sites. + "With all due respect," says Michael Swords, a professor at Western + Michigan University and editor of the Journal of UFO Studies, "some + Russians are questionable in terms of UFO research. They tend not to be + very well disciplined, nor are they good at documenting their work." As + for Vallee's book, Swords says "it sounds like 'What I Did on My Last + Vacation.' Vallee may have met a lot of interesting people and heard a + lot of interesting tales, but he doesn't document things properly, and + if he has, he never seems to share it with anybody." + + But Vallee insists the Russian findings are significant, in part + because of the region's weak coverup system. "With the chaos spreading + over the Soviet Union," Vallee explains, "I felt there was genuine + information coming out from the witnesses." + + Vallee supporter and experimental psychologist Richard Haines agrees + that the French researcher is onto something real. Explaining the + misunderstanding about Vallee's work, Haines says, "He's a + theoretician. He doesn't claim to be a field inverstigator. And I think + he has some very challenging ideas." + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2750.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2750.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4089f40d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2750.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +SUBJECT: WHO ARE WE ? FILE: UFO2750 + + + + + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + Provided by The MufoNet-BBS Network + Digitized by The Tex*Star BBS, a MufoNet-BBS Network Board + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Operation Right to Know + + WHO ARE WE? + + Operation: Right to Know is a group of citizens united by the + conviction that the solution to the UFO "mystery" lies in political + action. Private groups have done a heroic job for over 40 years + documenting UFO sightings and trying to educate the public with very + limited resources. Despite their decades of hard work, however, the + publicis still largely in the dark. + + One enormous barrier stands in the way of full public disclosure: The + U.S. government's 40-year policy of withholding and confusing the facts + of extraterrestrial contact. As long as this policy remains unchanged, + the truth will never be fully revealed. We demand full disclosure of + government UFO secrets and an open, public inquiry into the phenomenon. + We charge that the government's policy of tightly restricting UFO data, + however well-intentioned it originally may have been, causes far more + harm than simply telling the truth. + + Operation: Right to Know held its first demonstration on March 28 in + front of the White House, the first public protest against UFO secrecy + on record. We will conduct a much larger "March on Washington" onJuly + 5, 1993, following the MUFON symposium in nearby Richmond, Virginia. + + Throughout the year, we will hold smaller demonstrations at major UFO + hotspots and secret government research sites, and keep the pressure on + lawmakers through letter campaigns, educational materials, and + lobbying. Grassroots sentiment to compel the government to reveal its + secret UFO files has been growing recently. Most citizens involved in + the UFO field are political novices, but a growing network is gaining + an education in political action. Our hope is that a highly visible + political campaign against UFO secrecy may enlist support from quarters + that have previously beem silent on the issue. Popular demonstrations + may also indicate to U.S. policymakers that the people are ready for + the extraordinary news that has been withheld from them. + + We intend to spark demonstrations in many locales, organized at first + by UFO enthusiasts, but eventually involving all citizens concerned + about freedom of inquiry and our planet's future. Operation: Right to + Know will provide networking and support for these activities. + + A bulletin, The Right to Know Forum, describing our activities is + available now, and will soon develop into a regular newsletter with + exciting news from around the country. For free copies of past issues + of The Right to Know Forum, and further information on how you can + participate in Operation: Right to Know, write to: + + Mike Jamieson, 554 Randolph St., #2, Napa, Calif., 94559. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2751.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2751.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..48c4860a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2751.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,138 @@ +SUBJECT: THE PENTACLE MEMO FILE: UFO2751 + + + + + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + T h e P e n t a c l e M e m o + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + SECRET + SECURITY INFORMATION + + G-1579-4 + cc: B. D. Thomas + H. C. Cross/A. D. Westerman + L. R. Jackson + W. T. Reid + P. J. Rieppal + V. W. Ellsey/R. J. Lund January 9, 1953 + Files + Extra [this was handwritten] + + + Mr. Miles E. Coll + Box 9575 + Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio + + Attention Capt. Edward J. Ruppelt + + Dear Mr. Coll: + + + This letter concerns a preliminary recommendation to ATIC on future + methods of handling the problem of unidentified aerial objects. This + recommendation is based on our experience to date in analyzing several + thousands of reports on this subject. We regard the recommendation as + preliminary because our analysis is not yet complete, and we are not + able to document it where we feel it should be supported by facts from + the analysis. + + We are making this recommendation prematurely because of a CIA- + sponsored meeting of a scientific panel, meeting in Washington, D.C., + January 14, 15, and 16, 1953, to consider the problem of "flying + saucers". The CIA-sponsored meeting is being held subsequent to a + meeting of CIA, ATIC, and our representatives held at ATIC on December + 12, 1952. At the December 12 meeting our representatives strongly + recommended that a scientific panel not be set up until the results of + our analysis of the sighting-reports collected by ATIC were available. + Since a meeting of the panel is now definately scheduled we feel that + agreement between Project Stork and ATIC should be reached as to what + can and what cannot be discussed at the meeting in Washington on + January 14-16 concerning our preliminary recommendation to ATIC. + + Experience to date on our study of unidentified flying objects shows + that there is a distinct lack of reliable data with which to work. Even + the best-documented reports are frequently lacking in critical + information that makes it impossible to arrive at a possible + identification, i.e. even in a well-documented report there is always + an element of doubt about the data, either because the observer had no + means of getting the required data, or was not prepared to utilize the + means at his disposal. Therefore, we recommend that a controlled + experiment be set up by which reliable physical data can be obtained. A + tentative preliminary plan by which the experiment could be designed + and carried out is discussed in the following paragraphs. + + Based on our experience so far, it is expected that certain + conclusions will be reached as a result of our analysis which will make + obvious the need for an effort to obtain reliable data from competent + observers using the [... unreadable...] necessary equipment. Until more + reliable data are available, no positive answers to the problem will be + possible. + + + Mr. Miles E. Coll -2- January 9, 1953 + + We expect that our analysis will show that certain areas in the + United States have had an abnormally high number of reported incidents + of unidentified flying objects. Assuming that, from our analysis, + several definite areas productive of reports can be selected, we + recommend that one or two of theses areas be set up as experimental + areas. This area, or areas, should have observation posts with complete + visual skywatch, with radar and photographic coverage, plus all other + instruments necessary or helpful in obtaining positive and reliable + data on everything in the air over the area. A very complete record of + the weather should also be kept during the time of the experiment. + Coverage should be so complete that any object in the air could be + tracked, and information as to its altitude, velocity, size, shape, + color, time of day, etc. could be recorded. All balloon releases or + known balloon paths, aircraft flights, and flights of rockets in the + test area should be known to those in charge of the experiment. Many + different types of aerial activity should be secretly and purposefully + scheduled within the area. + + We recognize that this proposed experiment would amount to a large- + scale military maneuver, or operation, and that it would require + extensive preparation and fine coordination, plus maximum security. + Although it would be a major operation, and expensive, there are many + extra benefits to be derived besides the data on unidentified aerial + objects. + + The question of just what would be accomplished by the proposed + experiment occurs. Just how could the problem of these unidentified + objects be solved? From this test area, during the time of the + experiment, it can be assumed that there would be a steady flow of + reports from ordinary civilian observers, in addition to those by + military or other official observers. It should be possible by such a + controlled experiment to prove the identity of all objects reported, or + to determine p[ositively that there were objects present of unknown + identity. Any hoaxes under a set-up such as this could almost certainly + be exposed, perhaps not pubically, but at least to the military. + + In addition, by having resulting data from the controlled experiment, + reports for the last five years could be re-evaluated, in the light of + similar but positive information. This should make possible reasonably + certain conclusions concerning the importance of the problem of "flying + saucers". + + Results of an experiment such as described could assist the Air Force + to determine how much attention to pay to future situations when, as in + the past summer, there were thousands of sightings reported. In the + future, then, the Air Force should be able to make positive statements, + reassuring to the public, and to the effect that everything is well + under control. + + Very truly yours, + + [unsigned] + H. C. Cross + HCC:?? + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2752.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2752.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d388127e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2752.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,291 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON THE PENTACLE MEMO FILE: UFO2752 + + + + + +The "Pentacle Memorandum" has been a controversial item since its existence +was revealed to the wider UFO community by Dr. Jacques Vallee in his excellent +work _Forbidden Science_, (Copyright 1992, Jacques Vallee, North Atlantic +Books, Berkeley CA, ISBN 1-55643-125-2). + +Vallee found the two page memo in 1967 while working with Dr. Allen Hynek +papers and partially described it in _Forbidden Science_, giving the author of +the memo the code name "Pentacle". + +Shortly thereafter, a document which purported to be the Pentacle Memo came +into limited circulation among certain researchers. We obtained our copy from +Mr. Barry Greenwood of Citizens for UFO Secrecy, (Citizens Against UFO +Secrecy, (CAUS), P.O.Box 218, Coventry, CT 06238). + +Among other things, this document contains confirmation that Battelle Memorial +Institute was working on UFO project(s) at the time of the Robertson Panel, +(January 1953), and apparently could exercise some amount of control over the +handling of the subject matter. + +Since we believe that the 1952 - 1953 period is pivotal to understanding the +nature of our government's response to UFO, we were very pleased to discover +that Dr. Vallee was working in some of the same areas (preparing _Forbidden +Science_) as we were in preparing the _Confirmation Paper_, (available from +CUFON, The Computer UFO Network, see the end of this file for information). + +Although there is now testimony of an important and respected person in the +'UFO Community' regarding the Pentacle memo's authenticity, confirmation of +the document by official release would be final proof. Since that has not as +yet happened, this file has been placed the "Other Files" file section of +CUFON. + +This file contains the text of correspondence between Jacques Vallee and Dale +Goudie, and between Dr. Vallee and Barry Greenwood. Mr. Goudie has provided +the texts and we have chosen to post the letter from Vallee to Greenwood +because we felt that it represented a clear, concise statement of the reasons +Dr. Vallee thinks the Pentacle document so important, and as such, should be +made available. The text of the Pentacle Memo is also included. + +17-AUGUST-1993 Dale Goudie Jim Klotz + +REFERENCES: + +"Disclaimer": CUFON lists the following references to the Pentacle Memo as a +service to the reader only; there is no intention of providing a +comprehensive listing of references. CUFON does not necessarily endorse any +of the viewpoints expressed in the listed articles. + + 1. UFO Magazine, Vol.8, Nos.2 and 3, 1993. UFO Magazine P.O.Box 1053, + Sunland, CA 91041-1053. + + 2. Just Cause, Number 35, March 1993. Citizens Against UFO Secrecy, + (CAUS), PO Box 218, Coventry, CT 06238. + + 3. International UFO Reporter (IUR), Vol. 18, No. 3, May/June, 1993. + J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS), 2457 W. Peterson Ave., + Chicago, IL 60659 + + +San Francisco, CA + 12 June 1993 + + Dear Dale: + + I welcome your inquiries, and I am glad to see that the 'Pentacle' +memo has come out of obscurity. The document you sent me appears to be +genuine. It corresponds to the one I saw. + + The question of its origin may be unimportant. Perhaps the people who +released it will go public eventually (I have an idea who they might be). The +best course of action, however, would be to seek access to the original +document, and to others of the same vintage. + + I enclose a copy of my recent comments to Barry Greenwood on the same +subject. + + With best regards, + /s/ Jacques + + =========================================================================== + + Dale: FYI + (I don't know if this will be published + by Greenwood.) J.V. + + 27 April 1993 + +Barry Greenwood +JUST CAUSE + + +Dear Barry: + + Thank you for sending me your thoughtful commentary about the Pentacle +document. I do agree with you on one point: the significance of the memo +comes, in part, from what it does not say. In particular, it makes no +reference to any recovered UFO hardware, at Roswell or elsewhere, or to alien +bodies. The greater significance of what it does say will slowly emerge in +coming years as the overall implications come to light. Let me draw your +attention to three specific points. + + 1. Project Twinkle and other observational efforts by the military, which +you mention in an effort to show that Pentacle was only dusting off an old +idea, were purely passive projects. In sharp contrast the Pentacle proposal +goes far beyond anything mentioned before. It daringly states that "many +different types of aerial activity should be _secretly and purposefully +scheduled within the area_ (my emphasis)." It is difficult to be more clear. +We are not talking simply about setting up observing stations and cameras. We +are talking about large-scale, covert simulation of UFO waves under military +control. + + 2. The greatest implication, which is perhaps not obvious on first reading +but which amounts to a scandal of major proportion in the eyes of any +scientist, has to do with the outright manipulation of the Robertson panel. +Here is a special meeting of the five most eminent scientists in the land, +assembled by the government to discuss a matter of national security. Not only +are they not made aware of all the data, but another group has already decided +"what can and cannot be discussed (Pentacle's own words!)" when they meet. Dr. +Hynek categorically stated to me that the panel was not briefed about the +Pentacle proposals. + + 3. Revelation of this document may seem irrelevant to _Just Cause_, but its +explosive nature wasn't lost on Battelle. As I noted in _Forbidden Science_, +and as Fred Beckman vividly recalls to this day, the Project Stork team +reacted with fury when Hynek went back to Battelle in 1967, demanding to know +the truth. The man I have called Pentacle snatched his notes away and told him +in no uncertain terms that the contents of the memo were not to be discussed, +under any circumstances. + + I find it odd that a group that claims to be interested in the historical +study of our field, as _Just Cause does, should fail to see the significance +of the Pentacle Memo, which is an authentic document, when so much time, money +and ink have been devoted over the last several years to an in-depth analysis +of the MJ-12 papers, which were faked. Perhaps the Pentacle memo only proves +that scientific studies of UFOs (and even their classified components) have +been manipulated since the fifties. But it also suggests several avenues +of research which are vital to the future of this field: why were Pentacle's +proposals kept from the panel? Were his plans for a secret simulation of UFO +waves implemented? If so, when, where and how? What was discovered as a +result? Are these simulations still going on? I invite your group to turn its +investigative resources and its analytical talent to this important task. + + In reading _Forbidden Science_, you should recognize that the book is a +Diary, not an analytical report or a memoir. Therefore many important +inferences, many relevant details, can only be found by reading between the +lines. Your preliminary analysis of the Pentacle memo is not unfair, but it is +somewhat simplistic, and it takes it out of context. I invite you to go back +for a second, closer reading. + +cc: Fred Beckman + + /s/ Jacques Vallee + + SECRET + SECURITY INFORMATION + +G-1579-4 +cc: B. D. Thomas + H. C. Cross/A. D. Westerman + L. R. Jackson + W. T. Reid + P. J. Rieppal + V. W. Ellsey/R. J. Lund January 9, 1953 + Files + Extra [handwritten] + + +Mr. Miles E. Coll +Box 9575 +Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio + +Attention Capt. Edward J. Ruppelt + +Dear Mr. Coll: + + + This letter concerns a preliminary recommendation to ATIC on +future methods of handling the problem of unidentified aerial objects. +This recommendation is based on our experience to date in analyzing +several thousands of reports on this subject. We regard the +recommendation as preliminary because our analysis is not yet complete, +and we are not able to document it where we feel it should be supported +by facts from the analysis. + + We are making this recommendation prematurely because of a +CIA-sponsored meeting of a scientific panel, meeting in Washington, +D.C., January 14, 15, and 16, 1953, to consider the problem of "flying +saucers". The CIA-sponsored meeting is being held subsequent to a +meeting of CIA, ATIC, and our representatives held at ATIC on December +12, 1952. At the December 12 meeting our representatives strongly +recommended that a scientific panel not be set up until the results of +our analysis of the sighting-reports collected by ATIC were available. +Since a meeting of the panel is now definitely scheduled we feel that +agreement between Project Stork and ATIC should be reached as to what +can and what cannot be discussed at the meeting in Washington on January +14-16 concerning our preliminary recommendation to ATIC. + + Experience to date on our study of unidentified flying objects +shows that there is a distinct lack of reliable data with which to work. +Even the best-documented reports are frequently lacking in critical +information that makes it impossible to arrive at a possible +identification, i.e. even in a well-documented report there is always an +element of doubt about the data, either because the observer had no +means of getting the required data, or was not prepared to utilize the +means at his disposal. Therefore, we recommend that a controlled +experiment be set up by which reliable physical data can be obtained. A +tentative preliminary plan by which the experiment could be designed and +carried out is discussed in the following paragraphs. + + Based on our experience so far, it is expected that certain +conclusions will be reached as a result of our analysis which will make +obvious the need for an effort to obtain reliable data from competent +observers using the [... unreadable...] necessary equipment. Until more +reliable data are available, no positive answers to the problem will be +possible. + + =========================================================================== + +Mr. Miles E. Coll -2- January 9, 1953 + + + We expect that our analysis will show that certain areas in the +United States have had an abnormally high number of reported incidents +of unidentified flying objects. Assuming that, from our analysis, +several definite areas productive of reports can be selected, we +recommend that one or two of theses areas be set up as experimental +areas. This area, or areas, should have observation posts with complete +visual skywatch, with radar and photographic coverage, plus all other +instruments necessary or helpful in obtaining positive and reliable data +on everything in the air over the area. A very complete record of the +weather should also be kept during the time of the experiment. Coverage +should be so complete that any object in the air could be tracked, and +information as to its altitude, velocity, size, shape, color, time of +day, etc. could be recorded. All balloon releases or known balloon +paths, aircraft flights, and flights of rockets in the test area should +be known to those in charge of the experiment. Many different types of +aerial activity should be secretly and purposefully scheduled within the +area. + + We recognize that this proposed experiment would amount to a +large-scale military maneuver, or operation, and that it would require +extensive preparation and fine coordination, plus maximum security. +Although it would be a major operation, and expensive, there are many +extra benefits to be derived besides the data on unidentified aerial +objects. + + The question of just what would be accomplished by the proposed +experiment occurs. Just how could the problem of these unidentified +objects be solved? From this test area, during the time of the +experiment, it can be assumed that there would be a steady flow of +reports from ordinary civilian observers, in addition to those by +military or other official observers. It should be possible by such a +controlled experiment to prove the identity of all objects reported, or +to determine positively that there were objects present of unknown +identity. Any hoaxes under a set-up such as this could almost certainly +be exposed, perhaps not publicly, but at least to the military. + + In addition, by having resulting data from the controlled +experiment, reports for the last five years could be re-evaluated, in +the light of similar but positive information. This should make +possible reasonably certain conclusions concerning the importance of the +problem of "flying saucers". + + Results of an experiment such as described could assist the Air +Force to determine how much attention to pay to future situations when, +as in the past summer, there were thousands of sightings reported. In +the future, then, the Air Force should be able to make positive +statements, reassuring to the public, and to the effect that everything +is well under control. + + + Very truly yours, + + [unsigned] + + H. C. Cross +HCC:?? + + ============================================================================ +** End ** + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2753.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2753.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b9351cf5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2753.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,490 @@ +SUBJECT: THE PHOENIX FOUNDATION FILE: UFO2753 + + + + + + + Welcome to the Phoenix Foundation + + Many of you have probably at one time or another watched MacGyver, + the popular TV series (no longer in production) about the guy who works + for the Phoenix Foundation. + + There is a real Phoenix Foundation, incorporated in 1981. I've been + told by a reliable source (who has been an actor on the series) that + the show was inspired by a copy of a newsletter, The Omega Report, that + is produced by the real Phoenix Foundation. + + The television show paralleled many of our real-world projects: UFOs, + power lines, espionage and politics. + + I'd like to take this opportunity to tell you a little bit about the + Phoenix Foundation and invite you to join as a member. We will also be + uploading the texts of our newsletter, The Omega Report, to various + CompuServe Libraries. + + We are, to my knowledge, the only non-profit institute in America (at + least) that is dedicated to the study of Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) + energy. ELF affects every one of us every day. Our brains operate on + the ELF frequency band (0-3000 hertz). So do the brains of every living + creature on earth. Even the earth itself oscillates at an ELF + frequency. + + I have testified in federal court as an expert witness on power line + radiation. If any of you are concerned about high-voltage power lines + or substations near your home or office, or about their environmental + effects, you definitely need to know more about the Phoenix Foundation. + + We have received calls and letters from around the country on this + growing problem (which a secret utility memo compares to the asbestos + crisis), and we would like to form an international network of + citizens, organizations and researchers interested in identifying the + risks and the causes, and in finding solutions that are fair and + equitable to all, including the utilities. In fact, we invite electric + utility participation. + + The story of the Phoenix Foundation goes back beyond 1981. I + personally carried out a lot of the research since 1961, and founded + the Phoenix Foundation as a formal organization to further my own + personal research. + + The Phoenix Foundation - just like MacGyver indicates - is involved + in many things: weapons research, paraphysics research, + extraterrestrial research, biophysics, psychotronics, electronics, + agriculture, journalism, AIDS research, conflict resolution, + spiritual/scientific research, environmental protection, space + research, and political history. + + I was the author, in 1975, of "A Skeleton Key to the Gemstone Files", + available on CompuServe and must reading for anyone who wants to + understand how and why our society has deteriorated to the point it + has. The story BEHIND the Gemstone story is one of the most incredible + you will ever come across, and it can be thoroughly documented. As time + and finances permit, we will begin uploading thousands of pages of + documentation to substantiate the claims made in the Gemstone Files. + These files were the reason behind the famous Watergate burglaries. + Richard Nixon wanted to find out just how much we knew and who we had + shared this information with. + + We (I) have investigated the assassinations of John and Robert + Kennedy since they happened. We hope to upload a series of exclusive + articles I wrote for a national magazine in the 1970s that carries the + JFK story farther than Oliver Stone ever dreamed. This information was + made available, upon request, to the Senate Select Committee on + Assassinations. It links Watergate to Dallas. This story also involves + mind control - something virtually unknown by the public that is again + interested in what happened November 22, 1963. + + I have personally spent months in jail in Tennessee for trying to + bring this information to the public. My crime was publishing a + newspaper on Sunday. (More about this in future uploads). My home and + office were ransacked by sheriff's deputies, the CIA and the Ku Klux + Klan, working together. I was virtually imprisoned as a political + prisoner right here in America. + + I have been urged over the years by hundreds of people to tell my + story, but that has been very difficult to do. It has cost me my + employability except in the most menial jobs. It cost me my family and + all that I owned (you can't pay your bills when you're behind bars). + Perhaps now is the right time, as America faces the most dangerous + period in her history. And perhaps CompuServe is the right forum, for I + can ill afford the cost of printing the thousands of newsletters or + magazines it would take to get this story out to the American people. + + Unless we are halted in our efforts, we will begin uploading to you + the story behind Watergate and Iran-Contra, the real story about AIDS, + and much more. I've been there, in a unique position to witness history + in the making. + + In 1961, at the age of 16, I was building spy satellites. (This is + documented in an accompanying upload - see OBSAT.TXT) Little did I know + then how a science fair project would so dramatically alter my life. + It was in 1961, in a tour of Boeing Aircraft-Wichita, that I first + discovered that the United States had recovered a crashed aircraft from + an extraterrestrial civilization and had bodies in deep freeze. + + In 1963, I was involved in tornado research at the University of + Kansas, using the super-secret U-2 spy plane. + + By 1964, I was working with the Cuban Student Directorate (Des Moines + branch), a CIA-funded group of Cuban exiles involved in clandestine + raids into Cuba to destroy sugar mills in an attempt to overthrow Fidel + Castro. It was years before I learned that I had actually been working + for the CIA and that this group had been involved in Kennedy's + assassination. + + By 1966, I was a reporter for a daily newspaper (Pratt (KS) Daily + Tribune). At 19 I was the youngest departmental editor of a daily + newspaper anywhere in the US or Canada. + + Two years later I was in Chicago, working as an investigative + reporter and national columnist for National Features Syndicate, + investigating the Kennedy assassination and working with a staff member + from the office of New Orleans DA Jim Garrison. It was there that I + stumbled across the story of how the US was using "behavioral + modification" (we know it as "mind control") to monitor and control + assassins such as Sirhan Sirhan and Jack Ruby. + + While there I was savagely beaten by the Mafia - a warning to lay + off. I didn't lay off. I uncovered a Mafia-operated counterfeit + operation that was manufacturing "Longines-Wittnaur" watches by the + tens of thousands, undermining the legitimate company. By the time I + realized what I was involved in, it was too late. The Chicago Mob's hit + men made their move. One helluva story there! + + That same year I was working (briefly) as a volunteer for Robert + Kennedy's presidential campaign. Then he was murdered. Within weeks, I + was Illinois State Chairman of Senator Eugene McCarthy's presidential + campaign (not to be confused with rabid anti- Communist Joe McCarthy). + I took on the Daley political machine in a courtcase that went all the + way to the U.S. Supreme Court (I won). + + That case has been used as precedent by independent presidential + candidates ever since - both conservative and liberal. The story of how + both George Wallace and Richard Nixon campaigns tried to fund us to + destroy the Democratic Party is worth telling, as is the story of how + the movement was infiltrated and taken over by explosive SDS and + Weathermen radicals who wanted to dynamite the polling booths. How many + of these were federal "agents de provacateur" I'll never know, but I + publicly quit in disgust and outrage. Violence is not at all what + democracy is supposed to be about. + + In 1969, with a Mafia contract out on me, I fled to Tennessee and + started publishing a small weekly newspaper in 1971 that landed me in + even more hot water. I discovered small towns are more dangerous than + the cities. They can keep a better eye on you, and destroy you much + more effectively. + + My children were shot at as they played in the front yard. Friends + were offered money to put me in the hospital and shut me up. A deputy + sheriff was murdered one night when he tried to bring me a story he had + written about how corrupt the sheriff's department was, running a + burglary ring that covered several counties, and dealing drugs. When + all that failed, I was arrested and jailed for three months for having + my newspaper office open on Sunday. (That story made the papers, + television and even Editor & Publisher magazine). + + When I got out of jail in 1975, I started writing my Modern People, a + Chicago news weekly (not to be confused with People Magazine). My + assignment: solve the Kennedy assassination. My undercover work for + Texas Senator Henry Gonzalez (who spearheaded the renewed JFK probe and + who later became committee chairman, only to quit after he himself was + the target of a Mafia contract) brought me even more problems after I + revealed it was Watergate burglar E. Howard Hunt who was in charge of + the secret CIA photo team across the street from the Cuban consulate in + Mexico City. That team produced the photos of Lee Harvey Oswald that + were not Oswald at all, but a CIA assassin. When it became obvious that + the Senate Committee had been infiltrated by the very people covering + up the assassination truth, both I and Gonzalez quit. + + In April 1975, I completed "A Skeleton Key to the Gemstone Files" - + which is available for download on CompuServe. In May my home was + broken into and a copy of the manuscript was stolen, then later + published in the City of San Francisco Magazine. + + The Williamson County Sheriff's Department placed me under heavy + surveillance. My neighbor, a redneck if there ever was one, was making + lists of the license numbers of every car that visited my house, and + turning them over to the sheriff. I was told by the Fairview police + chief (a friend) that "something is going on" and that it was out of + his jurisdiction. He had been told not to intervene. In exchange for + his "help", my neighbor was given carte blanche to go through the house + of my other neighbor, who had died, and take whatever he wanted. The + dead man's house sat vacant for months. + + Not too long after that, Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt + (yeah, I know, he's a drugged out sleazeball), offered me $1 million + for what I had on the JFK murder. I sent him the Gemstone Files. Two + days after I discussed the story with his staff he was permanently + crippled by a would-be assassin. The story was rejected - then in + February 1979, Hustler published it - without paying for it - and even + misspelled the same words I had deliberately misspelled as protection. + + I went to Charles Galbreath, former Tennessee Appellate Court Judge + and a friend of Flynt's. I wanted to know what was going on. Galbreath + wanted to sue. The story got even stranger at that point. Hustler + admitted they had receiced the story from me and offered a $2,000 out- + of-court settlement, which I rejected. (Maybe, in retrospect, I should + have accepted it). + + Suddenly, Galbreath backed off, after saying Flynt was being + controlled by sinister powers. + + At the same time this was going on, I was helping Richard Fann, a + former cop, in his campaign for the Fairview City Commission, and I + began publishing the Gemstone Files. + + Within days, I was again arrested - on drug charges. I personally + watched from a creek (where I bathed) as Williamson County deputies + placed marijuana plants on my front porch - my front porch for + Chrissake. I heard one deputy say "I want the first shot at him." I hid + in the woods until dark, then tried to get away, but they had stolen + the keys to my car. I walked on foot for miles to a friend's house. + They nabbed me there. I was jailed, even though Judge Ann Franks told + them to release me on my own recognizance. Sheriff Fleming Williams + told the judge I had been released, when in fact, I had not, and was + being held incommunicado in the Williamson County Jail in Franklin. I + was alone in the world like I had never been alone before. + + My landlady went to my house to discover "men in suits" going through + my files. She was told "if you want to keeep your family alive, you'll + get your butt back up the hill and forget you saw anything." She + didn't, but instead went to the sheriff's department, where she was + ignored. I wonder why. Years later, I found out who at least one these + men were - the Tennessee Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. + + I was told I would never leave jail alive. They brought a humongous + deputy in (he must have weighed 400 pounds) and told me I would be shot + in the head trying to escape. They were going to take me for a ride. It + wouldn't be the first time this had happened in Williamson County. + Earlier an inmate, handcuffed behind his back, was shot in the back of + the head and killed when he "tried to escape." + + I smuggled a letter out to the County Judge, Wilburn Kelley, whom I + had helped in his election. I also led a work strike by the inmates + when the deputies were stealing our food and taking it home, starving + us out. The letter was broadcast on the radio and Kelley visited the + jail; things improved for awhile. + + I am alive today probably only by the grace of God and the compassion + of the Fairview police chief. I was taken to Fairview City Court to + face "check forgery" charges. I had signed my wife's name on a $5 check + for gas (she was at work and the gas tank was empty). She didn't + intiate any proceedings. The bank saw the signature was different and + the sheriff jumped at the possible charges. He flew into a rage when + the judge refused to force my wife to testify and the grand jury + refused to indict me. He swore he would take it over their heads to + insure I was put away for good. + + The local charges were dismissed and when the sheriff's deputies + didn't show up to take me back to jail to face the "drug" charges, the + local police chief looked at me and said, "I'm not going to do their + dirty work for them. I don't care where the hell you go, just get out + of here." I fled to Nashville and stayed with a friend until my county + court date. When I showed up, they tried to arrest me for escape, but + Judge Franks said enough is enough. Stop right there. I was found + guilty, though, on the marijuana charge. I didn't stand a chance + against that. Sentence: time served. + + As for Richard Fann, the cop running for office, he won with more + votes than anyone had ever received in Fairview history, and became + mayor. + + My own life in shambles, I went to Nashville and waited tables while + I pursued the court case against Hustler, on my own, without an + attorney. I was doing alright, winning every motion, until a new lawyer + appeared on the scene to volunteer his help. He suggested I withdraw + the case from federal court and file it in state court, where a jury + would be more hostile to Flynt's values. Worst advice I ever took. Two + days later the lawyer vanished. I went to his house. It was bare. To + this day I have no idea whatever happened to him. Was he a plant to + sabotage the case? I don't know. + + The Gemstone Files was widely published - but heavily censored - and + was made into a movie and a book by a CIA front corporation. Their + objective was to present it as fiction, so people would never again + regard it for what it was - FACT. The corporation that published it + was, in fact, a CIA proprietary airline like Air America. It was their + only venture into publishing. One of their agents tried to take credit + for the work. + + At this point, I guess any person in their right mind would have + quit, just given up and said to hell with it. But then I guess I didn't + fit that description. I did tone it down (I had a family to support). I + held several nondescript jobs: typesetter, warehouse manager, retail + store manager). + + In 1980, I served as Davidson County Co-Chairman of the John Anderson + presidential campaign. The campaign was infiltrated by Republican dirty + tricksters. When Anderson's daughter came to town, one of those + tricksters, who was posing as a doctor, was assigned as her driver. He + eluded the Secret Service and drove Eleanora around trying to get her + to do drugs. The Secret Service was in a panic when they couldn't find + her. I can imagine what kind of front-page scandal that would have + made. This is the first time anywhere that incident has been revealed. + + It was during this same year that the Iran-Contra scandal began. + Reagan's people approached Anderson with information that Carter was + involved in some secret arms deal for the hostages. It was pure + bullshit! More dirt tricks. + + In 1981, I founded the Phoenix Foundation and set up The Omega + Report, a computer-run bulletin board service. When I once again + started publishing the Gemstone Files, I was visited at work by an + individual who worked (and still does) at a top-secret communications + facility just across the street from where I lived. + + This communications facility is on a hill that gives it an + unobstructed view of Nashville. It has high-powered surveillance + cameras on the tower. In fact, at a public meeting in front of some 500 + people, I asked the head of the Tennessee Emergency Management Agency + about those cameras. He bragged they could read license plates at a + shopping center several miles away. My next action was a letter to + Mayor (and former Congressman) Richard Fulton asking why these cameras + were pointing into people's bedrooms (including my own) and on whose + authority. I would go out in the yard and the cameras would move, + following my direction. + + The individual who showed up at work told me there was a thick file + on me making the rounds of the facility and that I had better be very + careful. I had pissed off some powerful people. I won't reveal this + person's name because I still have contact with him and do not want to + jeopardize his job. But he told me some of what was in the file - + enough private details that I knew he was telling the truth. + + As Iran-Contra unraveled, the Foundation published a special Omega + Report (still available in limited quantities). We were the first to + reveal the Reagan deal to delay release of the hostages. I called it as + I saw it - treason. We reported the concentration camps set up in ten + states as part of Operation Rex 1984. These camps were built to hold + 400,000 people - American citizens - who did not agree with Reagan's + Nicaraguan militarism. I sent a copy to every member of Congress (it + cost me a bundle!) + + I've been told that as ABC-News panned the Iran-Contra hearing room + during breaks, copies of the report were seen on the desks of several + Congressional staffers. I can't verify that. We intend to upload that + report to CompuServe. You need to know what's going on! + + We were the first to predict the Berlin Wall would fall - a year + before it happened. Using computer technology to analyze European news + events, we beat the CIA and the White House on that one! + + We've produced a lot of material on the phony "War on Drugs." This + so-called war is a hoax. Uncle Sam is America's biggest dope dealer and + the "war" is simply an excuse to destroy the Bill of Rights. It's + working, too. (More to come on this). + + We've produced a lot of material on the use of Extremely Low + Frequency (ELF) radiation for mind control. We've obtained, through the + Freedom of Information Act, CIA and DIA documents that prove it. We + are, according to a CIA document submitted to the Warren Commission, + being programmed "in a manner consonant with national plans" (Richard + Helms) in "the battle for the minds of men." + + The DIA document tells how, in 1976, the military was using mind + control technology as a "barrier weapon" to literally change the + enemy's mind - creating temporary and permanent brain damage, inducing + hypnosis and "voices in the head." + + We used it in Panama against Noriega and in Iraq against Saddam + Hussein. And in America against U.S. citizens. We suspect there is a + link between this and high-voltage power lines, as outlined in the DIA + document. The nation's electrical system and plumbing grid can be used + as a powerful ELF brain-wave transmitter to condition the population. + Even the judge in the Judas Priest "subliminal control" trial cited a + litany of how the CIA has attempted to use it "to alter the outcome of + national elections." + + Remember that as you vote in November. + + Another area we've been involved in - stemming from my 1961 trip to + Boeing - is extraterrestrial contact. There are a lot of paranoid nuts + out there with some wild stories, but there is also a lot of + frightening truth to what is being circulated. Our newsletters cover + some of this. + + My background is journalism, engineering. I seek facts. Provable + facts. And I try to pass it on to you. We also present differing + opinions - since my role is not that of a censor, but that of + historian. Judge for yourself what may be real and what isn't. + + Our involvement in high-voltage power lines has brought back the ugly + surveillance and smear tactics of the powers that be. Two years ago, + when a local utility company tried to place a high-voltage power line + in an affluent Nashville neighborhood, people were upset about the + aesthetics. We pointed out that there was much more to be concerned + about - birth defects, brain cancer, etc. + + We were invited to speak to Brentwood homeowners - where a 175,000- + volt line runs only 20 feet from children's swingsets. But a power line + "volunteer" from Murfreesboro began writing letters and making phone + calls accusing me of being a convicted felon, a child molester, a CIA + agent and a communist, and warning people to stay away from me and the + Phoenix Foundation. I saw one such letter in court. + + After $70,000 in legal fees (not my money), we gave up on the case, + even though I think we had a chance of winning it. + + Undaunted, I set up the Global Village BBS in Nashville - America's + first community electronic newspaper and electronic town hall, with the + participation of the Democrat and Republican parties, city council + members, state legislators, the governor and Congressmen. + + Within 30 days, I was again under attack. The State of Tennessee + demands to do a "routine" audit of every document, every bill, every + receipt, every check since 1988 - even though I've paid all state taxes + I've been told to pay. This audit is set to come up September 22. + + That's where things stand now. I couldn't find a job anywhere. I am + unemployable. Employers who have had government contracts were told to + choose between me and their contracts. My last employer told me I was + one step away from being "hit", according to a private investigation. + + This is what America has come to. This is the price you can expect to + pay for patriotism. I want to tell you - and those who may be watching + me - what patriotism is all about. It isn't relaxing in your easy chair + with a six-pack of Budweiser and Monday Night Football and accepting + every piece of crap fed to you on the news. It's about loving your + country and your people enough to take the necessary risks to make + America the nation she should be, the nation she deserves to be. + + Let's not forget that people still risk their lives to make it to + America's shores. We are the best hope for freedom and democracy this + world has ever known. I just want America to be the best she can be. + THAT is my patriotism. + + We've strayed from the spiritual values upon which we grew over the + past two hundred years. If we lose that, we lose it all. And I'm not + talking born-again, conservative fundamentalist Christian soldiers. I'm + talking God - in whatever form we know Him/Her. Murder, blackmail, + assassination - that has no place in my America. + + Someone once said, "If you have nothing worth dying for, you have + nothing worth living for." + + Dante wrote, in The Inferno, "The lowest depths of hell are reserved + for those who in a time of great moral crisis maintain their + neutrality." + + One of Robert Kennedy's favorite sayings (and the one Ethel put on + his funeral invitation) was: "Some see things as they are and ask why. + Others see things as they could be, and ask why not." + + The short-lived campaign of Ross Perot illustrated how hungry we are + for the America we want. + + This isn't political. It isn't Republican or Democrat. It isn't even + just "America". The handwriting is on the wall for this New World Order + (Brave New World?) we face. + + I invite you to join me - while you still can. The Phoenix Foundation + needs people like you who give a damn! I, personally, have something + worth dying for. I just hope it doesn't come to that, but I know my + name - like many of yours - is on that list for those concentration + camps. I believe God will watch over me until such time as He/She calls + me home. Until then, I can only continue to do what I can do to prove + that one person can make a difference. You are one person. And you, + too, can make a difference. Please join the Phoenix Foundation. Your + support will never go for anything more worthwhile. or more needed in + these times. + + + + The Phoenix Foundation + P.O. Box 92008 + Nashville, TN 37209 + + + Membership: $25/year + + I don't know how much longer we can hold out. But we will attempt to + upload as much documentation as we can before we are silenced. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2754.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2754.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..693023cd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2754.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +SUBJECT: PRICE'S 1955 ABDUCTION FILE: UFO2754 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS Network - Mutual UFO Network + ------------------------------------------ + News-Wire + ----------- + +----------------------------------------------------------+ + :Date: 02-01-91 18:46 : + :From: David Stager : + :To: John Komar : + :Subj: Price's 1955 Abduction : + : : + :Price says he regrets telling story of being snagged by : + :aliens : + : : + : COHOES, N.Y. -- For 35 years Richard Price has : + :struggled with skeptics who say his story is out of this : + :world, and they are right. : + : : + : Price, 43, told the Albany Times-Union Sunday he : + :regrets ever having told anyone that he was abducted by : + :extraterrestrials as a child in 1955, but now feels the : + :need to tell his story to as many that will listen. : + : : + : Many have. Price has appeared on the television show + :"Hard Copy," been interviewed by Joan Rivers on her talk : + :show and had a Japanese television crew show up to tape his + :story. : + : : + : He is currently working on a book, and hopes to be : + :able to sell the manuscript so he can unburden himself from + :the past. : + : : + : Price says when he was eight-years-old, he and a : + :friend were playing in Oakwood Cemetery when aliens : + :appeared, ordered him aboard their craft, examined him for: + :several hours and then returned him. : + : : + : He claims they implanted a small piece of material : + :into his abdomen that remained there for years without : + :discomfort, finally working its way through his skin in : + :1989. The material is now in the hands of a physicist from + :the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who is trying to + :identify it. : + : : + : Whatever happened, Price said for many years people: + :scoffed at his story and he went for long periods of time : + :without telling anyone about it, and his family suffered : + :also, until he began getting some exposure. : + : : + : "The kids used to get picked on at school, but it's: + :not as bad now," Price said. : + : : + : He said he struggles to keep jobs and is currently : + :unemployed, hoping his book will change the course of his : + :life. : + : : + : "That's when I'll probably go on Carson or : + :Letterman." he joked. : + : : + : Don Berliner of the Fund For UFO Research in Mt. : + :Rainier, Md., said Price's story may in fact be true, and : + :sympathizes with his struggles for respectability. : + : : + : "Skepticism is healthy, what bothers me is bull- : + :headed negativism, refusal to consider the possibility," : + :Berliner said. : + +----------------------------------------------------------+ + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2755.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2755.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c3e72c0d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2755.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,258 @@ +SUBJECT: THE UFO EXPERIENCE - A SCIENTIFIC INQUIRY FILE: UFO2755 + + + + + +ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ +This is an excerpt from the book, "The UFO Experience - A Scientific +Inquiry", authored by J. Allen Hynek. Published by Henry Regnery +Company, 1972. Library of Congress Catalog Number: 76-183827 + +This excerpt covers pages 182-187. I found this especially illuminating +in regards to why not much got accomplished during Project Blue Book's +time and in Hynek's words as to why it was that way. + +======================================================================= + +** Begin Excerpt ** + +The popular impression through the years was that Blue Book was a full-fledged, +serious operation. The public perhaps envisioned a spacious, well-staffed office +with rows of file cabinets, a computer terminal for querying the UFO data bank, +and groups of scientists quietly studying reports, attended by a staff of +assistants. + +The actual situation was unfortunately the opposite. The operation was generally +headed by an officer of lesser rank. In the military the importance attached to +a mission is usually in direct proportion to the rank of the commanding officer. +The relatively low-ranking officers in charge of Blue Book were usually assisted +by a lieutenant and sometimes only by a sergeant. For one long period of time a +sergeant with little technical training was given the chore of evaluating most +of the incoming reports. + +This was not exactly a first-line, high priority operation. Blue Book had much +too small a staff to do justice to a phenomenon that so often greatly concerned +the public. Compounding the problem, the staff was able to devote only part of +its time to the technical problem at hand. During my regular visits to Blue Book +across the years I observed that much of the work in the office was devoted to +peripheral matters all done at a leisurely pace. + +Further, Blue Book's low-ranking officers had no leverage to initiate the type +of investigations that were needed and for which I frequently asked. The +military is entirely hierarchical; a captain cannot command a colonel or a major +at another base to obtain information for him. He can only request. As long as +Blue Book did not have at least a full colonel in command, it was impossible to +execute its assigned task properly. In reviewing cases that had come in during +the previous month, I often asked that additional, often crucial information on +a case be obtained. The results were at best minimal; officers at other bases +were generally too busy to bother to investigate further. Why should they? They +all knew it was a finger exercise anyway. + +Blue Book was a "cover-up" to the extent that the assigned problem was glossed +over for one reason or another. In my many years association with Blue Book, I +do not recall ever one serious discussion of methodology, of improving the +process of data gathering or of techniques of comprehensive interrogation of +witnesses. + +The reader may well ask at this point why I did not either lay siege to the +Pentagon, demanding action, or simply resign in disgust. Temperamentally, I am +one who can easily bide his time. I also dislike a fight, especially with the +military. But most importantly, Blue Book had the store of data (as poor as they +were), and my association with it gave me access to those data. In a sense I +played Kepler to Blue Book's Tycho Brahe. + +As far as demanding action from the Pentagon, I knew only too well the +prevailing climate and recognized that had I been too outspoken, I would have +quickly been discredited, labeled a UFO nut, lost access to data, and certainly +would have lost all further effectiveness. I have always been of the turn of +mind that "truth will out" if given time; if there was indeed scientific +"paydirt" in the UFO phenomenon, as time went on and the gathering of data +improved, even the most hostile skeptics would be powerless to sweep it under +the carpet. The astronomer traditionally adopts a very long time scale. + +By and large, however, Blue Book data were poor in content, and even worse, they +were maintained in virtually unusable form. With access to modern electronic +data processing techniques, Blue Book maintained its data entirely unprocessed. +Cases were filed by date alone, and not even a rudimentary cross- indexing was +attempted. Had the data been put in line readable form, the computer could have +been used to seek patterns in the reports, to compare the elements of one report +with those of another, and to delineate, for instance the six basic categories +of sightings used in this book. Since all the thousands of cases were recorded +only chronologically, even so simple a matter as tabulating sightings from +different geographical locations, from different types of witnesses etc. was +impossible except by going through, manually, each and every report. A proposal +for elementary computerization of the data in the Blue Book files, devised by +Jacques Vallee and myself and submitted by me directly to Major Quintanilla at +Blue Book, was summarily turned down. + +In view of the above and of the frequently contradictory and inane public +relations statements concerning UFO reports, which even the man on the street +found unconvincing, it is hardly a wonder that the charge was frequently made +that the publicly visible air force "investigation" of UFOs was merely a front +for a real investigation being carried on somewhere "higher up." + +Were I the captain of a debating team whose job it is, of course, to marshall +the facts favorable to his side and studiously to avoid the other's, I could +defend either side of the argument. At no time, however did I encounter any +evidence that could be presented as valid proof that Blue Book was indeed a +cover-up operation. However, many indications, bits of information, and scraps +of conversation could be force-fitted into a yes for the cover-up thesis. Thus, +for instance, one time when I inquired into the specifics of a certain case, I +was told by the Pentagon's chief scientist that he had been advised by those at +a much higher level to tell me "not to pursue the matter further." One can make +of that what one will. + +In a country as security conscious as is ours where central intelligence is a +fine art, it frequently seemed to me that very provocative UFO reports were +dismissed without any seeming follow-up - certainly an illogical if not +dangerous procedure unless one knew a priori that the report really was of no +potential information value to the security of the country (or that it was but +was being taken care of elsewhere). As an example, the report of five rapidly +moving discs, made by a member in good standing of the 524th Intelligence +Squadron stationed in Saigon and observed by him from the roof of the squadron's +headquarters, went untouched by Major Quintanilla and Blue Book on the grounds +that "the sighting was not within the continental limits of the United States." +It would seem almost inconceivable that the intelligence officer in question +would not have been further interrogated by some agency; certainly in an active +battle area his sighting might have presaged a new military device of the enemy. + +Another example, one of many, was this, on the first day of August, 1965, and on +the following two days there occurred the "Midwest flap." From several states +strange Nocturnal Lights were reported by ostensibly reliable police officers on +patrol at various places over an area of several hundred square miles. Blue Book +dismissed this event as "stars seen through inversion layers," although I know +of no astronomer who has ever witnessed inversion effects that produced these +reported effects. Both past experience and calculations show that such illusory +effects, in which stars move over at a considerable arc of the sky, simply +cannot be produced by thermal inversions. + +However, police officers weren't the only ones to report. The following is a +direct transcript of a Blue Book memo: In the early morning hours of August 1, +1965, the following calls were received at the Blue Book oifices by Lieutenant +Anspaugh, who was on duty that night: + +1:30 A.M. - Captain Snelling, of the U.S. Air Force command post near Cheyenne, +Wyoming, called to say that 15 to 20 phone calls had been received at the local +radio station about a large circular object emitting several colors but no +sound, sighted over the city. Two officers and one airman controller at the base +reported that after being sighted directly over base operations, the object had +begun to move rapidly to the northeast. + +2:20 A.M. - Colonel Johnson, base commander of Francis E. Warren Air Force Base, +near Cheyenne, Wyoming, called Dayton to say that the commanding officer of the +Sioux Army Depot saw five objects at 1:45 A.M. and reported an alleged +configuration of two UFOs previously reported over E Site. At 1:49 A.M. members +of E flight reportedly saw what appeared to be the same uniform reported at 1:48 +A.M. by G flight. Two security teams were dispatched from E flight to +investigate. + +2:50 A.M. - Nine more UFOs were sighted, and at 3:35 A.M. Colonel Williams, +commanding officer of the Sioux Army Depot, at Sydney, Nebraska, reported five +UFOs going east. + +4:05 A.M. - Colonel Johnson made another phone call to Dayton to say that at +4:00 A.M., Q flight reported nine UFOs in sight; four to the northwest, three to +the northeast, and two over Cheyenne. + +4:40 A.M. - Captain Howell, Air Force Command Post, called Dayton and Defense +Intelligence Agency to report that a Strategic Air Command Team at Site H-2 at +3:00 A.M. reported a white oval UFO directly overhead. Later Strategic Air +Command Post passed the following: Francis E. Warren Air Force Base reports +(Site B-4 3:17 A.M.) - A UFO 90 miles east of Cheyenne at a high rate of speed +and descending - oval and white with white lines on its sides and a flashing red +light in its center moving east; reported to have landed 10 miles east of the +site. + +3:20 A.M. - Seven UFOs reported east of the site. + +3:25 A.M. - E Site reported six UFOs stacked vertically. + +3:27 A.M. - G-1 reported one ascending and at the same time, E-2 reported two +additional UFOs had joined the seven for a total of nine. + +3:28 A.M. - G-1 reported a UFO descending further, going east. + +3:32 A.M. - The same site has a UFO climbing and leveling off. + +3:40 A.M. - G Site reported one UFO at 70' azimuth and one at 120' . Three now +came from the east, stacked vertically, passed through the other two, with all +five heading west. + +When I asked Major Quintanilla what was being done about investigating these +reports, he said that the sightings were nothing but stars! This is certainly +tantamount to saying that our Strategic Air Command responsible for the defense +of the country against major attacks from the air, was staffed by a notable set +of incompetents who mistook twinkling stars for strange craft. These are the +people who someday might have the responsibility for waging a nuclear war. + +For some, incidents such as the above would be prima facie and conclusive +evidence that the cover-up hypothesis was the correct one, on the grounds that +no group charged with serious defense responsibilities for the country could +have been so stupid. + +On the other hand, our hypothetical debating team captain could amass an even +more impressive cache of evidence to conclude quite the opposite: that the +entire Blue Book operation was a foul-up based on the categorical premise that +the incredible things reported could not possibly have any basis in fact. After +all, science pretty well understands the physical world and knows what's +possible and what is not. Since the reported actions of UFOs clearly didn't fit +this world picture, they simply _had to be_ figments of the imagination produced +in one way or another. + +All my association with Blue Book showed clearly that the project rarely +exhibited any scientific interest in the UFO problem. They certainly did not +address themselves to what should have been considered the central problem of +the UFO phenomenon: is there an as yet unknown physical or psycho- logical or +even paranormal process that gives rise to those UFO reports that survive severe +screening and still remain truly puzzling? + +Such lack of interest belies any charge of "cover-up"; they just didn't care. +There is another argument for the "noncover- up" viewpoint: the underlings in +the military hierarchy (and all Blue Book officers were such - generally +captains or majors, two of which finally made lieutenant colonel but never full +colonel) looked mainly toward two things, promotion and early retirement. +Therefore, in controversial issues it was always considered far wiser not to +"rock the boat," to please the superior officer rather than to make waves. Thus, +when the superior officers, who did not know the facts but were wedded to a +rigid framework of military thinking handed down from above, let it be known in +any controversial issue (whether UFOs or not) what the "right way" of thinking +is, no underling officer was going to oppose or even question it unless, of +course he was 99 percent certain that he could prove himself correct in the +controversy - and quickly. + +Since the Pentagon had spoken in no uncertain terms about UFOs, no Blue Book +officer in his right promotion-conscious military mind was going to buck that, +even if he had private opinions on the matter. + +Another factor added to the noncover-up theory. Turnover in the Blue Book office +was rather high. Sooner or later the officer in charge would be out of it, just +that much closer to promotion and retirement, if he just sat tight. From 1952 to +1969 the office was headed in turn by Captain Ruppelt (who did not make his own +views known until he was out of the air force), Captain Hardin (who had +ambitions to be a stock broker), Captain Gregory (to whom promotion was the +be-all and end-all of existence), Major Friend, and finally Major Quintanilla, +who had the longest term of office. Of all the officers I served with in Blue +Book, Colonel Friend earned my respect. Whatever private views he might have +held he was a total and practical realist, and sitting where he could see the +scoreboard, he recognized the limitations of his office but conducted himself +with dignity and a total lack of the bombast that characterized several of the +other Blue Book heads. + +Thus one can have one's choice of whether Blue Book was a front or merely a +foul-up. But that there was certainly foul-up and complete divorce from the +scientific community within Blue Book was apparent. The members of the +scientific fraternity were, of course, wedded to the misperception-delusion +hypothesis (there was no need for interchange of ideas with Blue Book, which +held the same views), and some members rose to heights of vitriolic verbiage in +denouncing reporters of UFOs. This phase of the total phenomenon had many of the +aspects of a modern witchhunt. + +** End excerpt ** + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2756.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2756.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b7cc3e4c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2756.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +SUBJECT: PROPULSION PREDICTIONS FILE: UFO2756 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + ARTICLE: PROPULSION PREDICTIONS + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + [Provided by the Oklahoma MUFONEWS, February 1992] + + One of the theories of how UFOs are propelled is that they defy the + force of gravity. Some sort of "force" would have to be created to do + that. + + In 1986, in a mineshaft in Australia, scientists thought that the + gravity recorded did not follow Newton's inverse square law. If this + were true then they might well have been on the track of a fifth force + which defies gravity. + + Scientists from the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, + California, and other locations have tested the theory by measuring + gravity from a submersible moving through 5 kilometers of water along + the California coast. The participating scientists determined that the + experiments recorded the gravitational constant G to an accuracy of 2 + parts in 1,000. + + No signs of a fifth force were found. However, the experiments were not + able to test for the force over great distances. If a fifth force did + exist and show itself over 1,000 meters, the measurements should have + differed from those several kilometers above the seafloor - a distance + perhaps out of range of a theorized fifth force. No appreciable + variation was found. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2757.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2757.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6ab0b379 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2757.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +SUBJECT: THE PSYCHIC PROJECTION THEORY FILE: UFO2757 + + + + + + + From UFOs and the Limits of Science by Ronald D. Storey c.1981 + + Reproduced for educational purposes. + + The Psychic Projection Theory + + The Psychic Projection Theory represents a modern school of thought in + UFO circles, which like the Ultraterrestial Theory, developed as a + reaction to the Extraterrestial Hypothesis. The theory was first + outlined by Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman in the mid-1970s, based on + Carl Jung's concept of the collective unconscious. + + The authors, however, have gone beyond Jungian psychology and postulate + that the collective inconscious can psychically project material forms, + represented in modern times by the UFO, and that "...the UFO phenomanon + has absorbed many of the ancient archetypal forms in which human beings + have traditionally needed to believe and which they have sought to + complete their world. + + Clark and Coleman saa a danger in the modern world of science's + disrupting man's close bond nature, to mysticism, and to the elements, + bringing him to "the brink of catastrophe." The message they see in the + UFO myth is that the collective unconscious "...too long repressed, + will burst free, overwhelm the world, and usher in an era of madness, + superstition, and terror - with all the sociopolitical accounterments; + war, anarchy fascism," and that "...when the unconscious can no longer + be contained, its liberated contents will destroy all that the + conscious mind has produced; the fruits of science and technology, + civilized order, and the very process of reason itself. Under the new + imbalance a spiritual dark age will blanket the earth." + + UFOs, then, are merely "planetary poltergeists," which are generated by + the "psychic energy" of the collective unconscious (and sometimes by an + individual unconscious), as were fairies, flying saucer "spacemen," and + apparitions of the Virign Mary. In some respects, The Psychic + Projection Theory relies on the same kinds of evidence as the + Ultraterrestial Theory, and it is sometimes difficult to distinguish + between the writings of authorities in the two schools. + + The Psychic projection Theory would have to depend, at the very least, + on both the reality of Jung's collective unconscious and the reality of + extrasensory perception (ESP). Jung's writings have had wide popular + appeal, but experimental work has failed to demonstrate empiracally + that man possesses a collective unconscious. Future research may shed + more light on the validity of Jung's theory. + + ESP research is a continuing and active area of research by numerous + psychologists, biologists, and physicists. A very bitter and emotional + debate has ensued over the years concerning the validity of ESP. Some + believe that the whole subject is nonsense and should not be given any + serious consideration. Others claim that ESP effects have been + conclusively demonstrated in repeated laboratory experiments and that + efforts should be directed more toward understanding the effects than + toward attempting to convince the skeptics. + + Until the matter is resolved, the Psychic Projection Theory must remain + as simply a fascinating idea. Even if ESP effects (precognition, + telepathy, telekinesis, etc.) were ultimately demonstrated to be + authentic phenomena, bringing parapsychology into the mainstream of + "normal" science, there has been no indication that such "psychic + energy" could actually materialize (i.e., project) objects, whether + they be fairies or flying saucers. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2758.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2758.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2b1af917 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2758.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,169 @@ +SUBJECT: EVIL 3.0 FILE: UFO2758 + + + + + + Mon 6 Apr 92 2:17 + By: Robin Gober + To: John Stepkowski + Re: Evil 3.0 + ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Evil 3.0 + + + To recap. Some Contactees, who believe that we create our own + reality, don't like discussions about the possibility of Evil aspects + of the Phenomenon, because they seem to believe that this might + _influence_ other Contactees and create Evil encounters. Some + Contactees don't even like to discuss this subject in public because + even talking about the possibility of influencing a Contactee might be + enough to influence the Contactee. The general thinking seems to be + that We will simply keep this matter private and not worry your little + heads about it. After all you are not enlightened are you? So how can + you possibly understand such things. It wouldn't be fair to you at all. + + My own feelings, perceptions and personal experience about this + subject of influence is like everything else, complicated. + + My own perception of my own personal experience seems to be that one + can affect the phenomenon by how one thinks about it. Now that is only + my own personal belief. I could be way wrong. If I were a standard + Abductee and someone told me that the reason I was having such a hard + time with my Abductions was because I wouldn't let myself believe that + the Greys or Nords were really great fellows, I believe I would STOMP + that person into the ground! I feel out of respect to struggle of + Abductees that I need to say that. I am limited in my experience in + that I am not an Abductee. I have however had negative experiences, so + I feel that gives me a more balanced approach to the issue than the + Contactee who has never had a bad experience. + + So it seems that the Contactees I am talking about may be right. I + may be able to influence a Contactee. But lets look at that a little + closer. Every day each and every one of us are bombarded with issues + and techniques designed to influence our thinking. Some of these do + influence us, some don't. When you get right down to it anything that + influences me, affects me, because at some level I allow it to happen. + Most of this is done on a subliminal level, but still some part of me + says "Yes!". I alone am responsible for what is inside my head. It's my + job to check out my head, keep what I like and deal with the rest. At + present I don't seem to be able to think of any other reasonable + answer. + + Is the phenomenon EVIL? Many Contactees have asked themselves that + question from time to time. I believe that just about any thinking + Contactee might want to ask themselves that question. It seems like a + fair question to me. + + This can be a touchy topic for a lot of Contactees. Some Contactees + identify themselves to a large degree with the Phenomenon. So it's sort + of a "love me, love my Phenomenon." So to these Contactees, to question + the Phenomenon is to question _them_. My usual response to that is + this, "What ever the Phenomenon is, it certainly seems capable of + taking care of itself. If I got a problem with you, that is between me + and you. If I got a problem with the Phenomenon that's between me and + the Phenomenon. So unless you are the Phenomenon, how about minding you + own affairs while the Phenomenon and I work this out?" + + The knee jerk defense of the Phenomenon is something one can see on + the echoes from time to time. When speaking about Abductions someone + might point out that taking people against their will and subjecting + them to examinations just might be a little unethical. THEN the + rationalization starts: + + "They aren't from around here so they don't have the same ethics we + do." + + (They have been here for about forty years, seems like they could + learn our ethics.) + + "Just think of what we would do if we caught one of them." + + (Most Abductees have NEVER caught a Grey.) + + "Think of all the times we have shot at their ships." + + (Most Abductees have NEVER shot at a ship.) + + "Look at our society, all the killing." + + (Most Abductees aren't Killers.) + + "Think of all the bugs you have stepped on in your life." + + (With all due respect, I don't believe bugs are capable of + suffering the same sort of emotional trauma that Abductees go through.) + + "They are here to help us." + + (How do you know that?) + + "Because they TOLD me." + + (With all due respect, you could make just about any statement you + wanted to about the Phenomenon and find a Contactee somewhere who could + tell you in all honesty that is what they TOLD him.) + + Ah yes, but is the Phenomenon Evil? The truth is I don't know. I wish + I could come up with some way to decide one way or the other. One of + the points that Vallee makes is that when ever one encounters the + phenomenon there is a sort of "Reality Exchange". + + "Rather than a physical occurrence inside a spacecraft, did they + experience a temporary translation of their consciousness into an + altered reality followed by visions of archetypal creatures? Is it + possible to promote coincidences and peculiar effects of apparently + paranormal nature by creating physical structures shielded from + everyday noise and serving as informational singularities?" + _Dimensions_ Jacques Vallee 1988 ISBN 0-345-36002-8 + + + That is all well and good but it isn't something I can prove, is it? + Whatever side one takes, and I question why someone should be required + to pick a side at all, you can make some good agurments for your case. + How- ever I don't believe any one can prove it either way. + + What's a poor Contactee to do? I guess I could just wait an other + forty years and hope that the U.F.O. researchers will settle that one + for me, but the reality is I have a life to live and I can't really + wait. I'll give you my answer to the puzzle. + + Is the Phenomenon Evil? I don't know, have no way of knowing, may + never have a way of knowing. I am still not sure what the Phenomenon + is, or how much self deremation it might pocess. At present I bleieve, + at least in my own life, that how I think about the process, seems to + affect the encounter, but I have no way of knowing what the degree of + that affection might be. + + So here is my resolution to the question. + + If the Phenomenon is good, than the best response to that is a live + well lived. I must take responibility for my own actions and take steps + to make sue that I am not a burden to those around me. I must be part + of the answer, not part of the problem. + + If the Phenomenon is Evil, then the best response is still a live + well lived. I can't allow evil to infect my life and destory my + happiness. I must strive for my wholeness. + + If the Phenomenon is neither good or evil, or part good, part evil or + even netural, then the best response is STILL a live well lived. For me + it answers the challange in the most productive manner. Think back to + the quote on Vasation. James Sr. was told it could be used for the + perpous of Transformation. That is the "out" for all Contactees. Use + it, don't abuse it, or be abused by it, or allow others to abuse you + because of it. + + I am not sure if this was the sort of response you were looking for + John, but it is honestly the best one I could come up with. Thank you + for asking my opinnion and thank you for reading all of this. + + take care! + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2759.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2759.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..28de3786 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2759.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,202 @@ +SUBJECT: INTERACTION WITH THE PHENOMENA FILE: UFO2759 + + + + +PART 1 + + + +Intro: You may upload this file anywhere you can get away with it. Provided +that you upload the entire thing.And you inclued my mailing address: + +Mr.Robin Gober +Rt.#1,Box 53 +Calhoun,Tn.37309 + +HI! My name is Robin Gober and this is a collection of files that I have +writien about my interaction with the Phenomena. My stuff is Poltergeist +events connected to UFO type encounters. I know this isn't talked about much +but it does happen alot. More and more of us are telling our stories. + + I want to be clear about this I am saying that in some cases there are +Poltergiest events along with UFO contacts. I honestly feel that the two are +connected. My understanding of the Phenomena has changed over time. But I +thought it best to leave these files as they were writen in order to show the +different stages or levels of my understanding as I have worked on my Quest for +answers. I didn't get here alone. I would love to name each and every one of +the people who have helped me in my Quest. But there isn't enough room and I am +not sure they would want to be listed at this time. The errors in here are +entirely my own and the buck does stop here. And so "within the context of +friends" leading toward the "Golden Glow" of + friendship here is my story. + +GHOST CHILDERN: The childern were a very pure white. They had a shape and +moved with grace. There were like vapor trails around them. When they stopped +moving the white mist they were made of kinda moved around them. +You could see through them but not easily. They were bright and happy and +seemed very friendly. They were playing around a cedar post that my mother was +using to grow vines on. They danced around the post and at times seemed to be +playing follow the leader. They were even floating over the post. You could +hear them or at least it seemed as if you could bearly hear them singing and +laughing. They motioned with their hands to ask us to come out and play. We +laughed but were too frightened to go to play. I don't remember being afraid of +them,I was more afraid that one of my parents would wake up and catch me +outside playing in the middle of the night. + +Here we see the start of a pattern. The Phenomena shows it's self in a pleasing +and non-frighting way. We are given the choice to just watch or to join it in +play. I wonder ever now and then about how things might be different if I +had ever met them half-way. Here we see the start of a pattern. The +Phenomena shows it's self in a pleasing and non-frighting way. We are given the +choice to just watch or to join it in play. + +GREEN LIGHTS: The first series of encounters began when I was between the +age of nine and ten. About 1965 or 66. At that time I shared a bed with my +younger brother Lyle, who was one year younger than myself. The events started +sometime around spring. I don't know how long it went on but I would wake up, +my heart pounding, sweat on my face,able to move my head only, a little, and +sooner or later I would pivot my head to the right and there it would be, a +green lump, the size of a softball clinging to the wall just a foot or so above +my brother. I would try to cry out and warn him but I couldn't speak. I would +try to move but it was as if I were stone. I could feel a great glee,a mad +delight pouring form the green light to me with feel-able force. This went on +night after night until one night when I had decided I could bear it no longer. +I had "had it" with this light, live or die, I did not care. I had been +frightened all I was going to be. I was fed up with it. As I lay there the +light changed. It grew smaller,the size of a thumb amd began to blink on and +off like a firefly.It flew across the room and headed torward the hall way +where we always kept a light burning. I thought,"When it goes into the hall +I will see it (as a firefly)" I waited and watched. Nothing. Then I saw +the light blinking on and off in the room where my two sisters slept. I watch +and with the logic of childhood I hoped that if it was going to get anybody; +better them then me.(I still feel guilty about that thought) The light had +changed yet a again. As I lay there watching it crawled back into my room. Now +the light was shaped like half a globe resting on the floor. It still blinked +on and off. In the glow I could see that it was no longer a firefly,now it was +a caterpillar. As it cwarled toward me I decided that this was it. I didn't +know if I would ever get a chance to confront it again. I deciced that when it +got close enough I would take a look at it. Upclose and personal. While the +light retained it's shape and size the caterpillar got smaller and smaller.When +it was at the head of my bed. I pounced! I rolled out of bed and landed with +my nose just above the larva. As I watched it blinked and then faded into the +carpet the way a drop of water is absorbed into fabric. I honestly felt that +I had won. That I had passed some kind of test. Now a few interesting facts +and thoughts. After that you would of thought that I would be a true blue +believer. But no, not me! I became a skeptic,a hard nose debunker! This is +called a "Reaction Formation" in psychology. (This is an other example of why I + think it is important that I am in therapy. Becuase of that I now know why I +became such a skeptic. I could not live with the fact that something strange +was going on, so instead I held on to the faith of nice, safe, clean facts. It +was at about this time that I began blocking my encounters. I began to lead +sort of a secret life, hiden even from myself. Now that I am older I am working +my way back through my past in order to find all of myself. You asked me +what I thought they were. I will answer as best as I can.The light felt "alive" +to me. I mentioned that I felt different emotions coming from it. That it had +intelligence, I am sure, of what order, I do not know. That it was been +directed by some, other, I feel very sure. But more importantly I feel now, +that it was some kind of test. And that it was rigged for me to win! All the +other times I saw it I was never able to move. Finally when my anger was hot +enough it moved and presented it's self to me. My actions were met with favor. +Now let me point out one more thing to you. It changed from a light,to a +firefly, to a caterpiller, to a larva, to nothing. That's metamorphosis in +reverse! This is a good example of how they communicate to us using our own +symbloic languae. I think of this as a "time delayed" message because the +meaning of metamorphosis was way above the head of a young child but sticks out +like a sore thumb to me as an adult. This is also an other example of how they +stack things in their favor. How they draw attention to themsleves,how they +offer proof that something did happen. +If it weren't for the metamorphosis angle I could of easily have written the +whole thing off as a dream. But the metamorphosis (and it's many meanings) is +just to sophistocated for a child of that age. This was the first story I +ever told my guy Linn and I find it awe inspiring that as I was starting my +metamorphosis as a person the key to that jounery would be a encounter with +metamorphosis. It almost seems planned. For those of you just tuning in, +Linn,who I sometimes call YODA,is my friend,therapist,guide and co-witness.I +find it so very odd that the menory of Some how I know that is very important +but I am not sure of it's meaning. Thank you for asking me about them. I have a +few more stories about green lights but I will have to wait for another time +before I write them up. thanks! + +Green Globe: Like a lot of people my menory has not come back to me in the +order that it occured. Instead it comes in groups and batches. Only later am I +able to try to place them in order. +Later that year,in the cool early part of Spring, I happened to look out the +back window of the kitchen. Out there floating in the branches was a green +glowing cloud. It was a litte bigger that a beach ball the top and bottom were +flatter but that's what it looked like. The sun was just staring to burn away +the night. I could see stars shinning through the cloud. I went and woke up my +sister and younger brother to show them what I had seen. We opened the back +door and watched the cloud as the sun slowly worked it's way up in to the sky. +My sister thought that since my brother and I were the boys that we ought to go +get a closer look. We maintained that that she was the oldest and therefore she +should go! As the sky got brighter the cloud became more transparent. +Finally we tore oursleves away and went on to school. All day long I could +think of nothing but that glowing cloud. "What on earth could it be?" I +wondered. Finally by that eveing I had an answer. With all the matter of +factnees I could muster I explained the puzzle. "What we had seen was +nothing but a radiation cloud. We had all heard of radication we knew it glowed +in the dark. So apparently this cloud just floated off of a pile of radiation +somewhere and would up in our back yard. Nothing to it!" Let me point out a +few things here. I think part of all of this was an atemnp to make me less +fearful of them. In the first story they let me think I had broken free enough +to roll out of my bed and confront that green light. Showing in effect that I +was stronger than they. Now in this story they peresent themslves OUTSIDE,close +enough to be seen but far enough away so that there was nothing to fear. If +that cloud would of moved an inch we would have been behind closed doors so +fast you wouldn't believe it. But showing themsleves this way they were making +us feel more in controll of the situation. Most fear concerns control. The +less control you feel,you have the more fear you feel. This was a way of +breaking us in. I think it also shows a willingness to indulvialize the +event to the witness. What is there to be afraid of about a cloud? Nothing. But +if instead there was a ship of somekind out there that would have been too +frighting. I also feel it is important to say that the cloud to me felt +alive. And that the feeling I got from it was that it had somehow gotten lost +was very afraid. Can you see how that would make a kid less fearful of +something. To my mind,at that time, I felt it was a "Kid" cloud all alone in +the world. + +Later that summer I saw the Green cloud for the last time.(I think.) My younger +brother,returning home in the eveing spotted the cloud once again in the +braches of the silver Maple that was in our back yard. I don't remenber much +about this except I am pretty sure that this time,I at least,walked down to get +a closer look. I felt happy. I felt as if I were meeting up with an old +friend. I had no doubt that this was the same cloud as before. I could "feel" +it. I got the feeling that he had found his way back to his family and that all +was well. It seems as if he was just passing by and wanted to let us know he +was okay. + +He seemed a little older,like me and a little more sure of himself,again just +like me. I didn't hear this in words. I felt it in my head. I felt it the +same way you might feel that a certain number is the correct answer to a math +problem. + That is as close as I can get to describing that. I don't remenber saying +good bye. I do remenber not feeling sad. I got the impression that we would +meet again. I also knew I had a secert,a special secert. I wasn't supppose to +tell about "knowing" what he was feeling. It would hurt the feelings of the +others and there was no sense in doing that. Only now, right now that I am +writing this do I recall that I would "think" to him. Tell him about my day +that sort of stuff. And it seems that I would feel him talking to me. But not +in words in feelings, in that special kind of knowing. I wish I could describe +it better but sense it was a thing of "not-words""words" can't be used to +describe it. I can see that I am going to have to work on remenbering more of +that. Now some more points. By this time I was trained well enough that I +had little or no fear. Once again he shows up outside,in the same place,looking +a little bigger. He thanks us(me) and makes me feel all grown up. He is + grateful to me. Can you see this pattern I'm getting buttered up. Also this +communcation is very much indilvuglezed to me. I was the one who helped him. I +even think the feeling of the gender was made with this choice inmind. Ten year +old boys are nervous around females. There was a brother in arms kind of tone +to the whole thing. The exchange of information was done in "feelings". I am +sure that if words would of worked best with me I would of heard words. But as +I learned when I was learning Bio-Feedback I am not good with words. I get my +best results by remenbering a feeling and then making myself feel that feeling. +I am given secert. That secert bound us together just as much as if we had +become blood brothers. Here ends part one; + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2760.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2760.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0e516198 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2760.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +SUBJECT: INTERACTION WITH THE PHENOMENA FILE: UFO2760 + + + + +PART 2 + + + + + + This is part two. I decided to go ahead and reprint this file. Green + Cloud: Later that summer I saw the Green cloud for the last time.(I + think.) My younger brother,returning home in the eveing spotted the + cloud once again in the braches of the silver Maple that was in our + back yard. I don't remenber much about this except I am pretty sure + that this time,I at least,walked down to get a closer look. I felt + happy. I felt as if I were meeting up with an old friend. I had no + doubt that this was the same cloud as before. I could "feel" it. I got + the feeling that he had found his way back to his family and that all + was well. It seems as if he was just passing by and wanted to let us + know he was okay. He seemed a little older,like me and a little more + sure of himself, again just like me. I didn't hear this in words. I + felt it in my head. I felt it the same way you might feel that a + certain number is the correct answer to a math problem. That is as + close as I can get to describing that. I don't remenber saying good + bye. I do remenber not feeling sad. I got the impression that we would + meet again. I also knew I had a secert,a special secert. I wasn't + supppose to tell about "knowing" what he was feeling. It would hurt the + feelings of the others and there was no sense in doing that. Only now, + right now that I am writing this do I recall that I would "think" to + him. Tell him about my day that sort of stuff. And it seems that I + would feel him talking to me. + + But not in words in feelings, in that special kind of knowing. I wish + I could describe it better but sense it was a thing of "not- + words""words" can't be used to describe it. I can see that I am going + to have to work on remenbering more of that. Now some more points. By + this time I was trained well enough that I had little or no fear. Once + again he shows up outside,in the same place,looking a little bigger. He + thanks us(me) and makes me feel all grown up. He is grateful to me. Can + you see this pattern? I'm getting buttered up. Also this communcation + is very much indilvuglezed to me. I was the one who helped him. I even + think the feeling of the gender was made with this choice in mind. Ten + year old boys are nervous around females. The re was a brother in arms + kind of tone to the whole thing. The exchange of information was done + in "feelings". I am sure that words would of worked best with me I not + sure that I would of heard words. But as I learned when I was learning + BiO-Feedback I am not very good with words. I get my best results by + remembering a feeling and then making myself feel that feeling. I am + given sercet. That sercet bound us together just as much as if we had + become blood brothers. Ten year old boys (me at l east) take sercets + very seriously. Even the sercet works for them it puts a small wedge + between myself and my siblengs. The sercet also works to protect me. + For a long time now I have felt that the "don't tell rule" is for the + protection of the witness not the ETs. I don't think they have much to + fear about people knowing they are here. Hell plently of us know that + they are here, and it hasn't hurt them yet. I don't want to give the + wrong impression here. Some people might think that because I feel that + I was being mislead that I believe that the ETs are evil. I don't. I + think they were doing the best job they knew how with what they had to + work with. From time to time I do feel some anger, thats just part of + therapy. But when that anger comes up I just work through it and get on + with my life. There is something very different about this third + encounter,(I don't know if that's a pun or not). The second happened in + the early morning. As the sun rose the clould got thinner. This + happened in the eveing as the sun set the cloud got more solid. So far + that's all I remenber,I can't help but think that maybe we talked on + into the night. Maybe thats where I got the idea that I could "think" + to him during the day. Maybe thats when I learned what sort of things + he wanted me to think. Maybe one day I will remenber. Green cloud four: + There was a fourth visit,I feel very sure about this one,but I am not + sure of the time. It was warm because I ws wearning a short slveed + shrit. I think it was evening,but there was still plenty of sun left in + the sky. I don't remenber how I got there but I was standing very close + to the silver maple tree in our backyard and resting up in the branches + was my Green Cloud. + + I kept as much of the tree between it and myself as I could. I was + sure that if it made a move for me I easily outrun it. It was while + standing there,looking at it,that I began to have a kind of + communication with it.As is ususal with me there weren't anyreal words + thought or spoken. It was more of a collection of feelings along with + visual displays fo events. It worked okay. Some where along here I + remenbered and began to think about a black and white short feature I + saw on television in this particular picece a young boy is playing with + a ballon that somehow gets away from him. He keeps sreaching and + looking for it. Finally after many trails he is reunited with his + friend. The impreesion I got from the Green Cloud was that "he" was + older now than the last time I had seen him. To his kind he was like a + teenager now. He justed stoped by to see how we were doing and to thank + us for letting him stay the last time he was here. He also went on to + give the idea that I was the o nly one who could talk to him,so maybe + it would be a good idea to keep it a sercet,as it would only hurt the + feelings of my brother and sister. Being a young boy of about 11 I + thought this was just a great idea. It made me feel really pround that + this "older" person" was willing to trust me. Those are the only clear + cut meniories I have of that encounter although it does seem to me now + that I use to check in with him from time to time by just thinking in a + certain kind of way. What I can't recall clearly is how or why I ever + broke off talking to him at all. It seems to me that something would + have to had happened to make me stop talking. I wonder what it was? + Here is an other example of how the phenonmea presents it'self in a + favorable like. What child could resist an older presense,(a teenager!) + wanting to share a sercet. I certainly couldn't. End notes: Please + remember my understanding of the Phenomena is different in some ways + now. I hope to add more to these files later. I welcome anything you + may want to say to me. You can usualy get to me on Dream Link and + Eckar-1. I also have posted my mailing my address in case you would + perfer to write to me. Thanks for letting me tell my story and good + luck to you in your Quest for answers! + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2761.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2761.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..163b0f69 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2761.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +SUBJECT: FLYING DISKS FILE: UFO2761 + + + + + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + The following is the FBI memorandum from Fitch to Ladd, along with the + addendum, wherein Army Air Force Intelligence asks the FBI to assist in + the investigation. Format was altered to fit 80-characters. This is + from _The Roswell Report: A Historical Perspective_, George M. Eberhart + editor, 1991 the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies. ISBN 0-929343- + 59-X. + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + OFFICE MEMORANDUM - UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT + + TO : D. M. LADD DATE: 7/10/47 + FROM : E. G. Fitch + SUBJECT: FLYING DISKS + + At request of Brigadier General George F. Schulgen, Chief of the + Requirements Intelligence Branch of Army Air Corps Intelligence, + Special Agent xxxxxxxxxxxxxx discussed the above captioned matter with + him on July 9, 1947. General Schulgen indicated to xxxxxxxxxxxx that + the Air Corps has taken the attitude that every effort must be + undertaken in order to run down and ascertain whether or not the flying + disks are a fact and, if so, to learn all about them. According to + General Schulgen, the Air Corps Intelligence are utilizing all of their + scientists in order to ascertain whether or not such a phenomenon could + in fact occur. He stated that this research is being conducted with the + thought that the flying objects might be a celestial phenomenon and + with the view that they might be a foreign body mechanically devised + and controlled. + + General Schulgen also indicated to Mr. xxxxxxxxxxx that all Air Corps + installations have been alerted to run out each reported sighting to + obtain all possible data to assist in this research project. In + passing, General Schulgen stated that an Air Corps pilot who believed + that he saw one of these objects was thoroughly interrogated by General + Schulgen and scientists, as well as a psychologist, and the pilot was + adamant in his claim that he saw a flying disk. + + General Schulgen advised Mr. xxxxxxxxx that the possibility exists that + the first reported sighting of the so-called flying disks were + fallacious and prompted by individuals seeking personal publicity, or + were reported for political reasons. He stated that if this was so, + subsequent sightings might be the result of a mass hysteria. He pointed + out that the thought exists that the first reported sightings might + have been by individuals of Communist sympathies with the view to + causing hysteria and fear of a secret Russian weapon. + + General Schulgen indicated to Mr. xxxxxxxxxx that he is desirous of + having all the angles covered in this matter. He stated that reports of + his scientists and findings of the various Air Corps installations will + be available in his office. He advised that to complete the picture he + desired the assistance of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in + locating and questioning the individuals who first sighted the so- + called flying disks in order to ascertain whether or not they are + sincere in their statements that they saw these disks, or whether their + statements were prompted by personal desire for publicity or political + reasons. General Schulgen assured Mr. xxxxxxxx that there are no War + Department or Navy Department research projects presently being + conducted which could in any way be tied up with the flying disks. + General Schulgen indicated to Mr. xxxxxxxx that if the Bureau would + cooperate with him in this matter, he would offer all the facilities of + his office as to results obtained in the effort to identify and run + down this matter. + + Mr. xxxxxxxxxx advised General Schulgen that his request would be made + known to the Bureau and an answer made available to him as soon as + possible. + + ------------ + Memorandum for Mr. Ladd + + Mr. xxxxxxxx also discussed this matter with Colonel L. H. Forney of + MID. Colonel Forney indicated that it was his attitude that inasmuch as + it has been established that the flying disks are not the result of any + Army or Navy experi- ments, the matter is of interest to the FBI. He + stated that he was of the opinion that the Bureau, if at all possible, + should accede to General Schulgen's request. + + SWR:AJB + + ADDENDUM + + I would recommend that we advise the Army that the Bureau does not + believe it should go into these investigations, it being noted that a + great bulk of those alleged discs reported found have been pranks. It + is not believed that the Bureau would accomplish anything by going into + these investigations. + + DML + + (Clyde Tolson) - I think we should do this. [Handwritten, dated 7/15] + + (J. Edgar Hoover) - I would do it but before agreeing to it we must + insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance in the SW case + the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory + examination. + + [Handwritten, undated.] + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2762.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2762.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ff31873a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2762.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ +SUBJECT: GOVERNMENT EXPLANATION OF UFO CRASH FILE: UFO2762 + + + + + + + ATT: NEWS (Print. TV. Radio); FM MORNING SHOWS; AM TALK + + *** FLASH *** PRESS RELEASE *** FLASH *** + + Date: Friday, September 9, 1994 + From BILL KNELL 718-591-1854, 16422 77RD, FLUSHING NY 11365 + Subject: Response to Government Explanation of UFO Crash + Title: 50 YEARS OF LIES: THE AIR FORCE AND UFOs! + + From USA TODAY (9/9/94): + THIS TIME UFO MYSTERY NUMBER ONE IS REALLY SOLVED. THE AIR + FORCE, AFTER 47 YEARS OF SILENCE, FINALLY ADUITTED THURSDAY + IT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FAMOUS FLYING SAUCER OF ROSWELL, + NM. BEHIND THE MYSTERY: WRECKAGE FOUND IN A RANCHER'S FIELD + IN 1947. THE AIR FORCE SAYS IT LIED WHEN IT ORIGINALLY + EXPLAINED THE WRECKAGE AWAY AS A "WEATHER" BALLON. THE 1994 + VERSION: THE BALLOON WAS PART OF "PROJECT MOGUL," A SECRET + EFFORT TO USE LONG-RANGE BALLOONS TO MONITOR SOVIET NUCLEAR + TESTS. THE 23-PAGE REPORT DENIES THE MILITARY COVERED UP THE + RECOVERY OF A CRASH (sic) SPACESHIP AND FOUR DEAD ALIENS. + + THE AIR FORCE SAYS IT LIED. But, how many times? In July of + 1947 Roswell Army Air Force Base Information Officer WALTER + HAUT put out a Press Release titled: ROSWELL ARMY AIR FORCE + CAPTURES FLYING SAUCER IN ROSWELL REGION. + + The Roswell Base was the home of 9 Atomic Bombs according to + Air Force records. The Base was filled with TECHNICIANS, + SCIENTISTS and ENGINEERS. It was they, according to former + Information Officer WALTER HAUT, that said the object + recovered was a FLYING DISC. + + The chief Air Force Investigator of the case, the late MAJOR + JESSE MARCEL, said before his death that the object was "not + a weather balloon or secret project..." Marcel was the Base + Intelligence Officer, highly briefed and familiar with any + and all secret projects on-going in the region. He was also + a Physicist in civilian life. Marcel indicated that bodies + of small, non-human creatures were recovered from the crash. + + Former Chaves County Coroner and Mortician GLENN DENNIS + backed up the stories of the bodies. He said that the Air + Force called him to purchase all the child-size coffins he + had on hand and requested information about embalming + procedures for bodies that had been exposed to the open + desert. Dennis also states that a nurse working at the base + hospital confided in him that the non-human bodies were + autopsied at the Base Hospital. + + Both DENNIS and HAUT still live in Roswell. I have + interviewed them on many of my trips to the area over the + past 20 years. I have also spoken to other witnesses who + were at the UFO crash site. These interviews are part of a + video cassette release called ROSWELL: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?, + a 120 minute prcsentation which includes video interviews + with over 20 witnesses. The tape costs $30 (including + shipping anywhere. and is available at my lectures or by + mall from: BILL KNELL 164-22 77RD, FLUSHING, NY 11365. + + CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS + + Last year Dayton TV Reporter CARL DAY produced a 30 minute + special called ALIEN ENCOUNTERS: THE WRIGHT-PATTERSON + CONNECTION. He interviewed the Information Officer for + Wright-Pattcrson A.F.B. in Fairborn-Dayton, Ohio because the + original Roswell Base press release said the WRECKAGE was + brought to Wright-Patterson for further study. + + The Information Officer stated that "NO RECORDS EXIST ABOUT + THE ROSWELL MATERIAL..." He said he had carefully studied + the matter and made high-level inquiries. + + I travel to the Dayton area (or through it) 5 or more times + yearly. I am regularly a guest on top-rated talk and music + stations (just today on WLW in Cincinnati, heard in Dayton + and six states clearly during the day). I have stated, many + times, that I believe Alien Spacecraft have been kept at + Wright-Patterson as early as 1947 and as late as 1989. Many + Callers to the radio shows agreed. NOT ONE CALLER HAS EVER + SAID I AM LYING OR THAT THE STORY ISN'T TRUE (there are over + 8000 employees at Wright-Patterson, surely one would call + and say I was full of hot air!). + + THE AIR FORCE REGULARLY LIES ABOUT UFO CASES + + The NEW A.F. Statement about Roswell is a result of an + inquiry by Congressman STEVE SHIFF from New Mexico who was + concerned the Air Force was lying. But, it's just a re-hash + of older statements. When MAJOR MARCEL first told his story + about Roswell saying the A.F. had lied (he was interviewed + and filmed as early as 1978), the Air Force said what + crashed on the ranch was 'radar reflecting material + connected to a weather balloon..." that was part of a top + secret radar test. MARCEL knew about the tests and said that + twice before material had, indeed, crashed in the same + area. But, the radar-reflecting material was totally + different from the suspicious wreckage that caused the + famous FLYING SAUCER press release. + + In 1965 a strange object crashed near Kecksburg, + Pennsylvania. Although described as what we might think of + as a UFO, the Air Force said first it was a meteorite. Then + news leaked that NOMAD had tracked the object which changed + course completely over Ohio and headed towards + Kecksburg. Meteorites normally do not do this. Then, they + said it was space junk. According to SKY AND TELESCOPE + magazine, no known or secret spy satellites came down at + that time. The Air Force took over the small town, + threatened local residents and officials and carted away + whatever crashed. + + In 1989, according to former South African Air Force Colonel + JAMES VAN GRUNEN and documents he has made available to me, + an Extra-Terrestrial Spacecraft was brought to Wrlght- + Patterson from South Africa. + + In May of 1989 NORAD tracked several objects of unknown + origin heading toward Africa. South African Air Force + Command was alerted and a Mirage Fighter was sent up to + intercept the Objects. One of these crafts was shot + down. The S.A.A.F. later recovered a disc-shaped object with + strange markings on it, three non-human creatures (1 dead, 1 + severely injured and 1 in perfect shape) and removed this + material to Praetoria A.F.B. + + Unable to cope with the creatures or material, these were + later traded to the U.S. Government for two nucluar devices + (unspecified) and brought, through a third nation, to Wright- + Patterson AFB. Sources there have said the story is true. I + have transcribed interviews with Van Grunen and others + involved including the SAAF Pilot who shot the object dnwn. + + The Air Forces of the U.S. and S.A. have had NO COMMENT on + this case except to say that "No objects of unknown origin + were tracked by NORAD at that time..." But, NORAD says they + tracked over 10.000 objects of unknown origin during 1989 + and many during that time. + + The latest statement by the Air Force is just another + government attempt to elude the Public into believing that + no CREDIBLE case or evidence exists to support the belief + that UFOs are of Extra-Terrestrial origin or something other + then explainable objects. As in previous cases, this + statement is self-serving, misleading and + contradictory. Last year an Air Force Colonel was + interviewed for a tabloid TV show about AREA 51 (a secret + installation in the Nevada desert where former employees + claim real, captured UFOs are tested and back- + engineered). The Colonel said that what people were seeing + and videotaping out there was a new, secret plane called the + Aurora. But, on 2/8/94 CIA Director JAMES WOOLSEY sald that + there is no Aurora and, in fact, no current replacement for + the aging SR71. SR71's were seen being used in Saudia Arabia + during the Gulf War. The Air Force says all SR71s were + retired by 1989! + + BILL KNELL is a veteran UFO investigator, popular media + yuest and consultant. Last year he i m estimated UFO cases + and presented 120 slide shows in 49 States and Canada. Bill + is available for guest spots and interviews. Call BILL or + CATHIE KNELL (24 hrs) at (718) 591-1854. + +(End of File) + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2763.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2763.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..acc1dcec --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2763.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,301 @@ +SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS AND MILITARY COVER-UPS FILE: UFO2763 + + + + +ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ +From the "Shepherd Express" , Milwaukee, WI - June 17-24, 1993 + +=================================================================== + +Roswell's Legacy + +Flying Saucers and military cover-ups + +by Gillian Sender + +If Don Schmitt has his way, by the end of 1994, Roswell, New Mexico +will be a location known to most people. Back in 1947 a UFO allegedly +crashed in Roswell. Schmitt, author and UFO investigator, has spent +the last five years trying to prove the military recovered the bodies +of extraterrestrial beings from the crash and covered up the evidence. + +As the special investigator for the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO +Studies (CUFOS), Schmitt said he is dedicated to continuing the work +that Dr. Hynek began. Until his death in 1986, Hynek was considered +the pre-eminent authority on UFO phenomena. A physics professor, Hynek +became involved with UFOs as a scientific consultant to the Air Force +Blue Book Project. He coined the phrase "close encounters of the third +kind," and worked as a technical advisor on the movie of the same +name. Schmitt spent eight years working and training with Hynek. A +good UFO investigator, explained Schmitt, is judged according to the +amount of solved and explained cases, not by the number investigated. +Schmitt said he solves more than 90 percent of the UFO cases he +investigates. + +Schmitt said prior to investigating the Roswell case five years ago, +he often would publicly express his skepticism concerning crash +recoveries. He and author Kevin Randle "thought we could go down to +Roswell and prove once and for all that [a cover-up] didn't exist. The +government couldn't keep something of this magnitude a secret. And +they haven't. The Roswell case has been leaking for years." + +Schmitt and Randle recorded 500 interviews with retired generals, +colonels, captains, military police, intelligence and other military +officials, and civilians. + +"We have six generals telling us that it is true - Roswell happened. +We have eight living witnesses describing the recovered bodies, and we +have two dozen witnesses describing the material [the unfamiliar +material retrieved at the crash site]," Schmitt said. + +In the 1991 book "UFO Crash At Roswell", Schmitt and Randle document +the July 1947 events. Research suggests there were two crash sites: +debris was retrieved at one site; extraterrestrial bodies at the +other. A few months ago, Schmitt secured a deathbed statement from a +military official. "That's the eighth deathbed statement just on the +bodies alone," he said. + +Schmitt said there have been several cases where families discover +just prior to the death of a loved one that the person had been +involved in the Roswell events. For example, in the last two days of +one MP's life, "all he could talk about was Roswell." The family is +bitter because the MP lived with his fear for all these years; they +feel robbed because the last few precious days of this man's life were +spent talking about Roswell, Schmitt said. + +In 1941, the 509th Bomb Group based in Roswell was the only atomic +bomber group in the entire world. Typically, the 509th shared very +little with their families. The United States, although fresh from a +World War II victory, felt threatened about developments in +communist Russia--Roswell. Army Air Field was a top secret, extremely +sensitive military base. + +On Sunday, July 6, 1947, rancher Mac Brazel carried some strange +debris into the Roswell Sheriff's office. The military was immediately +notified, and Colonel William Blanchard and Major Jesse A. Marcel ar- +rived at the scene to examine the material. + +Numerous witnesses describe the material as "thin as newsprint and +light as a feather. It was slightly flexible but very strong. The +material would not bend; nor would it burn or be dented with a +sledgehammer. The material was lighter and stronger and more fire +resistant than anyone had ever seen, and 'heaven help us if the +Russians had that type of material at this time.' " + +Early the next morning, Brazel took the military officers to the crash +site. Marcel said in a 1978 interview that the material was "nothing +from the Earth." He described the debris area as "three-quarters of a +mile long and 200 to 300 feet across, with a gouge at the top end of +it that was about 500 feet long and 10 feet wide." + +On the way back to the base later that night, Marcel stopped at his +home to show the debris to his family. Although Marcel has since +passed away, Schmitt interviewed Marcel's son, Jesse Jr. In a hypnotic +session, Jesse Jr, described the material to Schmitt and John Watkins, +a psychologist, professor, researcher and hypnotist. Under hypnosis +Jesse related that his father said "the debris was from a flying +saucer." + +On July 8; 1947, Walter Haut, the 509th Public Information Officer, +released a press release that stated in part, "The many rumors +regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday...The flying +object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week." Later that +day, the military retracted that press release and said the debris was +identified as a weather balloon. + +The Air Force invited a newspaper photographer to take pictures of +military personnel posing with a weather balloon. All the hoopla +surrounding the recaptured flying saucer died down and remained +dormant until Marcel began speaking to the press nearly 30 years after +the incident. Schmitt said if Marcel were the only one talking he +would not be working on the case, but Marcel is not the only one who +talked. Over time, witnesses-albeit reluctantly-gave matching +testimony. + +"The military has done a damn good job of discrediting the subject," +Schmitt said. "You name it; they did it: pressure on the press, +editors, reporters." + +Several journalists working on the case told Schmitt and Randle that +military personnel searched their offices and removed recorded +interviews, papers and notes regarding the Roswell incident. After +Roswell, the military moved in to stop all reports. "Project Blue Book +is a master plan of manipulating the press," Schmitt said. + +Project Blue Book was the Air Force's official UFO investigation +program. All the Air Force's UFO investigative cases are declassified +and supposed to be in Project Blue Book. In 1948, the Air Force +investigated UFOs under the name Project Sign. Later the program's +name was changed to Project Grudge, and in 1953 it became Project Blue +Book. + +"Project BlueBook's objectives were two-fold," said Mark Ridley, +librarian at the Modern Military Reference Branch. "The first was to +determine whether UFOs posed a threat to United States security. The +second was to determine whether UFOs exhibited any unique scientific +information and advanced technology that could contribute to +scientific or technical research." + +On Dec. 17, 1969, the Blue Book Program was terminated. An official +Air Force press release stated in part, "The decision to dis-continue +UFO investigations was based on a number of factors... No UFO +reported, investigated and evaluated by the Air Force has ever given +any indication of a threat our national security... Between 1948 and +to 1969 the Air Force investigated 12,618 reported UFO sightings. Of +these, 11,917 found to have been caused by material objects such as +balloons, satellites, and aircraft; immaterial objects such as +lightning, reflective and other natural phenomena; astronomical +objects such as stars, planets, the sun, and the moon; weather +conditions; and hoaxes. Only 701 reported sightings remain +unexplained. + +Project Blue Book was eventually declassified and transferred to the +Modern Military Reference Branch and National Archives in Washington, +D.C. + +Schmitt's mentor, J. Allen Hynek, was hired by the Air Force in 1952 +as a scientific consultant for Project Blue Book, but after +discovering that some of the more dramatic unexplained sightings were +transferred elsewhere, he started CUFOS. Brad Radcliffe, Schmitt's +assistant at CUFOS, explained, "Hynek felt Project Blue Book was +merely a public relations front. Reports of lights in the sky were +forwarded to Project Blue Book. But the ones with police officers +chasing [the UFOs], or people reporting alien beings, or the Air Force +encountering UFOs, were reported to Langely Air Force Base in Wash- +ington, D.C., Wright Patterson in Ohio, and the Pentagon." + +Schmitt said Hynek told him several times in private conversations +that "UFOs threatened national security so they were not part of the +Blue Book system. It was part of another investigation." + +Schmitt said one of his Pentagon sources, a colonel, told him, "There +is a top-secret investigation that continues today. There is a +top-secret organization on top of Blue Book, and that is where your +Roswell case is." + +There is no mention of the Roswell Case in Project Blue Book. Edward +Reese of the Military Reference Branch of the National Archives said +he has been dealing with Project Blue Book since 1973. He made +extensive searches among the released documents under the subjects +MJ-12, majestic, unidentified flying objects, UFO, flying saucers, +extraterrestrial biological entities and Aquarius, and "these searches +were all negative." + +Reese admitted he finds it "strange" that there is no mention of +Roswell, even though there is an official military answer. "Although +the Air Force listed a balloon as an explanation for the Roswell case, +the balloon is not listed in Blue Book." + +If a weather balloon is not the reason for the Roswell incident, then +the case should not be classified. Several weather balloons were +recovered in the 1940's and '50's but none of these cases was +classified and the finders were often given permission to keep the +balloon. + +The Roswell case is still guarded by intense security. The retired +officers are often reluctant to speak: "They are still under military +regulations that make any disclosure sensitive to UFO material +punishable by a forfeiture of any pension and benefits, plus a +$10,000 fine and/or prison," Schmitt said. + +Schmitt said several top military officials say they are "sworn to +secrecy and couldn't talk to us. Why after all these years are +military men telling us they are sworn to secrecy for a weather +balloon?" + +Schmitt said when initially contacted, many officers at first deny +their involvement with Roswell. In Schmitt's book, "UFO Crash At +Roswell," a plainclothed senior counter intelligence agent; a member +of the predecessor to the current CIA, is quoted throughout but never +mentioned by name. + +"At first he would say he wasn't there. Then when we showed him +documents that place him there, he would say, 'well, nothing was +recovered.' Then he would tell me he was there; but it was a radio +sound balloon. But that is the wrong balloon. The official explanation +is a Rawin target balloon. Why is he telling us that it is the wrong +balloon?" + +However, in Schmitt's follow-up book to "UFO Crash" - scheduled for +release in late 1993-the counter-intelligence officer, Sheridan +Cavitt, is identified. Cavitt leaked crucial information to Schmitt +and Randle. "We have him on tape saying it could very well have been a +flying saucer," Schmitt said. + +Critics contend that military officers would be reprimanded for +speaking out of line. Schmitt disagrees. "Officially they can't talk +to us. But they talk to us off the record." There is also a Catch-22. +If the debris are from a weather balloon, then where is the violation? +"But if it is the real thing, and if there is a reprimand, then they +are blowing the cover. They are conceding that they did break +security," Schmitt said. + +For example, Brigadier General Arthur E. Exon, while a lieutenant +colonel, was at Wright Field in July 1947. In "UFO Crash At Roswell," +Schmitt wrote, "He was there when the wreckage from the Roswell crash +came in and was aware of the recovery in New Mexico. He knew that it +was brought in and knew where it was sent...He saw the wreckage, and +learned from his colleagues that the bodies had arrived on the base." + +"Here we have a general officer telling us that Roswell happened and +that it is true," Schmitt said. He is a general-who is going to +reprimand him? "And as Exon told me, he could tell the vice president +where to go," Schmitt added. "This is his testimony. He can't prove +the physical reality of Roswell, but he can tell us that it +happenned." + +As the officers reach their declining years, more and more are +beginning to talk. In addition to the eight deathbed statements +describing the bodies, the second book will include eight living +testimonies. All the testimonies described the bodies identically: +"They are humanoid; approximately 4 feet in height. Slightly +disproportionate heads; larger eyes; ashen grey skin, and wearing +aluminum one-piece jump suits," Schmitt said. + +The Air Force vehemently disagreed with Schmitt's conclusions. An Air +Force press release states in part, "Periodically, it is erroneously +stated that the remains of extraterrestrial visitors are or have been +stored at Wright-Patterson AFB. There are not now, nor ever have been, +any extraterrestrial visitors or equipment on Wright-Patterson Air +Force Base." + +Before believing the government, Schmitt said people should examine +the evidence: Government documentation and the testimony of +collaborative witnesses. Schmitt said six congressional offices are +convinced there is a cover-up. "The question is, will they push for +hearings?" + +Congressional hearings could raise subpoena power with many witnesses +who are still sworn to secrecy. But time is running out; the witnesses +are getting older. + +Schmitt believes 1994 will be a key year for the Roswell case. +Documentaries by CBS, CNN, and French and Australian production +companies are in the works; a well-known movie star will play Major +Marcel in an upcoming film. + +This publicity could very likely ensure the opening of government +documents. With the release of part two of "UFO Crash At Roswell," the +movie, and then numerous documentaries, Schmitt hopes public pressure +will push the government for a full disclosure. + +"They might not have all the answers but they do know the truth," +Schmitt said. The truth being the UFO phenomenon is real. I am +convinced of this." + +The government's current position is similar to the last scene in +Steven Spielberg's film, "Raiders of the Lost Ark," where, after the +government finally receives the mysterious ark, officials place the +ark in a crate and bury it with thousands of other crates. Hynek, a +close friend of Spielberg, told Schmitt this was Spielberg's intent. +After nearly 50 years, the cover-up is beginning to unravel. + +** End ** + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2764.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2764.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..009f2fbe --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2764.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,469 @@ +SUBJECT: TIMELINE OF THE ROSWELL EVENT FILE: UFO2764 + + + + + + TIMELINE OF THE ROSWELL EVENT + +Note: Bracketed [] entries are those for which we have only indirect +evidence or for which a time slot could not be definately established. +This chart is a revised version of the one that appeared in _UFO Crash +at Roswell_. + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------- +Date/Time | Events at Roswell, N.M. | Events elsewhere +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Tue. 7/1 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | | Sherman Campbell discovers + | | weather balloon debris + | | near Circleville, OH. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Wed. 7/2 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Night | 9:50pm. Mr. & Mrs. Dan Wilmot report | + | oval-shaped UFO moving NW, toward the| + | crash site. William Woody and his | + | father also observe a bright, arching| + | light with a red contrail as they are| + | driving NW of Roswell. | + | Mac Brazel and others hear loud | + | explosion. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Thu. 7/3 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Mid- | Mac Brazel, accompanied by 7-year-old| +morning | D. Proctor, discovers a large amount | + | of light-weight, metallic debris on a| + | remote pasture (the debris field). | + | | +Late | Brazel visits his neighbors, the | Aborted V-2 rocket launch +morning | Proctors, and shows them some of the | at White Sands Proving + | material. | Grounds, NM. + | | +Evening | Brazel removes a large, circular | + | piece of debris from the debris field| + | and stores it in a shed. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Fri. 7/4 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | Holiday. | 1:00-2:00pm. Flying disks + | | observed at Portland, OR. + | | 9:12pm. United Air Lines + | | flight crew watches 9 + | | disks over Emmett, ID. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Sat. 7/5 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | Brazel goes to Corona, NM, and tells | + | some acquaintances about the find. | + | On the way back he stops again at the| + | Proctors. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Sun. 7/6 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Morning | Brazel drives to Roswell to visit | [Army Air Force captain + | Sheriff Wilcox. | sees flying disk near + | | Fairfield, CA. + | | +Early | Brazel and Wilcox call Roswell base | 1:45pm B-25 crew observes +afternoon | and report the find. | silvery disk over Clay + | | Center, KS. + | | + | Col. Blanchard, Maj. Marcel, and CIC | + | Captain Cavitt arrive at Wilcox's | + | office to interview Brazel. | + | | +Mid- | [Blanchard returns to the base with | [General Ramey alerts the +afternoon | a portion of Brazel's debris and | Pentagon about the find. + | alerts General Ramey in Fort Worth | The Pentagon orders debris + | about the find.] | sent to Fort Worth.] + | | +Late | Marcel and Cavitt accompany Brazel | +afternoon | back to his ranch to go to the debris| + | field. | + | The two deputies return to Sheriff | + | Wilcox, having found an area of | + | blackened ground. | + | | +Evening | 1st flight out. Debris flown to | + | Fort Worth. | + | | +Night | Marcel and Cavitt stay at Brazel's | Col. Alan D. Clark flies + | ranch and examine the large piece | debris in a B-26 from Ft. + | stored in the shed. | Worth to Washington, DC + | | for Gen. McMullen. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Mon. 7/7 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Early | Brazel takes Marcel and Cavitt to | +morning | debris field. | + | | +Daytime | | 11:45am. Koshkonong, WI, + | | flying disk sighting. + | [General Twining makes an unannounced| 2:30pm. East Troy, WI. case. + | visit to Kirtland Air Field, near | 9:00pm. William Rhodes takes + | Albuquerque.] | photograph of flying disk + | | over Phoenix, AZ. + | | +Late | Marcel and Cavitt leave for the | [Debris from Washington +evening | Roswell base after loading their | is sent to Wright Field, + | vehicles with debris. | near Dayton, OH.] +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Tue. 7/8 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Very early| Marcel stops at his home (2:00am) and| +morning | shows some of the debris to his wife | + | and son before proceeding on to the | + | base. | + | | +Early | Blanchard orders Maj. Easley to post | +morning | guards on the access roads to the | + | debris field. | + | [7:30am] Staff meeting held by | + | Roswell base officers to discuss | + | debris. | + | | +Mid- | 9:00am Cavitt and his assistant M/Sgt| +afternoon | Rickett obtain a staff car and drive | 9:30-11:50am. Series of disk + | to Brazel's ranch to pick him up and | sightings by pilots and + | return to the debris field. | officers at Muroc Air Base + | Troops arrive at debris field to | CA. + | begin recovery. | + | [11:00am] Blanchard dictates a press | + | release on the recovery of a flying | + | disk to PIO Walter Haut. | + | | +Mid-day | Haut goes into town to deliver his | + | press release to the radio stations | + | and newspapers. His first stop is at| + | station KGFL, where he gives the | + | release to Frank Joyce. | + | Noon. The information is put on the | + | AP wire. | + | 1st flight in arrives from Washington| + | DC, carrying a special team of photo-| + | graphers and W/O Robert Thomas. | + | William Woody and his father, still | + | curious about their sighting, drive | + | toward Corona. They are turned away | + | by MPs posted on outlying roads. | + | | +Early | News of the recovery spreads as the | +afternoon | story hits the wire services. Phone | + | lines at the base, at the sheriff's | + | office, and at newspaper and radio | + | news offices are tied up. | + | Sheriff Wilcox sends two more | + | deputies to the debris field; they | + | are turned back by MPs. | + | Cavitt and Rickett return to the | + | Roswell base with Brazel. | + | | +Mid- | Brazel is flown back to the debris | +afternoon | field from the base; other planes | + | from Roswell are similarly recon- | + | noitering the area. | + | The impact site is discovered from | + | the air; ground troops are directed | + | toward it. | + | [Barney Barnett and a group of | + | students and archeologists or rock- | + | hunters are already at the impact | + | site and see debris and bodies; they | + | are escorted off by the Army.] | + | Col. Blanchard "goes on leave" from | + | the base, but he actually leaves to | + | visit the debris field. | + | Material has been brought from the | + | debris field and loaded onto a C-54; | + | this 2nd flight out is flown by Capt.| + | Pappy Henderson to Wright Field. | J. Bond Johnson, of the + | 3rd flight out, a B-29, carries | Fort Worth Star-Telegram, + | Marcel to Fort Worth Army Air Field. | is told to go to Fort + | A few wrapped packages [of debris] | Worth Army Air Field to + | are also on the plane. | cover a flying disk story. + | | +Late | Clean-up continues at the crash | Marcel arrives in Fort +afternoon | sites. | Worth and confers with Gen. + | Brazel is flown back to the base, | Ramey; at some point + | then leaves and is located by Walt | remnants of a balloon are + | Whitmore, Sr., of radio station KGFL,| substituted for the real + | who interviews him about the find. | debris. + | Blanchard visits the debris field | A press conference is held + | and impact site with his staff. | in Ramey's office; Johnson + | A 2nd flight from Washington, DC, | photographs Marcel and + | arrives at the base; Rickett gives | Ramey with the balloon + | the crew a sealed box filled with | remnants; W/O Irving + | debris; the plane returns shortly to | Newton identifies the + | Washington (4th flight out). | material as a balloon with + | The Roswell Daily Record carries | a radar target device + | "RAAF Captures Flying Saucer" story. | attached. + | | Ramey issues a statement + | | claiming that the Roswell + | | officers were fooled and + | | that the material was from + | | a weather balloon. + | | +Early | Sgt. Melvin Brown looks under a tarp | 6:17pm Memo from FBI Dallas +evening | on the back of a truck at the impact | office to SAC regarding + | site and sees several alien-looking | weather balloon cover + | bodies. | story. + | Glenn Dennis, a local mortician, is | Ramey gives an interview + | intrigued by several inquiries from | on Fort Worth radio station + | the base about tissue preservation | WBAP about the weather + | and the smallest caskets he has | balloon cover story. + | available. | + | Truck carrying the bodies arrives at | + | the base. | + | A preliminary autopsy is attempted at| + | the base hospital by pathologist Dr. | + | Jesse Johnson, Jr. | + | Dennis tries to visit the base | + | hospital but is turned away forcibly;| + | a nurse friend warns him to leave | + | before he gets in trouble. | + | [8:30pm] Barnett returns home to | + | Socorro. | + | | +Night | Capt. John Martin, Sgt. Brown, and | + | other MPs guard a crate containing | + | the bodies that has been placed | + | inside an empty hangar. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Wed. 7/9 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Early | Troops continue clean-up at the crash| +morning | sites. | + | At the base, three C-54's begin to be| + | loaded with crates filled with debris| + | (8:00am). | + | [Senator Dennis Chavez calls Walt | + | Whitmore Sr. to warn him against | + | broadcasting an interview with | + | Brazel; a representative of the FCC | + | threatens to pull his broadcast | + | license.] | + | | +Mid- | Officers from the base locate Brazel | +morning | (who had stayed with Whitmore) and | + | return him to the base for | + | questioning. | + | | +Late | Brazel is taken by the military to | +morning | the office of the Roswell Daily | + | Record, where he gives a revised, | + | sanitized version of the story. | + | [A special secret service envoy | + | representing President Truman arrives| + | from Washington (3rd flight in.)] | + | | +Noon | The crate with bodies is moved from | + | the hangar to Bomb Pit Number One. | + | [Floyd Proctor, Lyman Strickland, | + | and others observe Brazel in town | + | escorted by soldiers.] | + | | +Early | Officers from the base visit | General Schulgen requests +afternoon | newspaper and radio offices in town | FBI cooperation in solving + | and recover all copies of Haut's | the flying disk problem. + | original press release. | The War Department tells + | Brazel is taken to radio station | the FBI that the disks + | KGFL, where he gives a revised | do not belong to the + | version of his story. | Army or Navy. + | | +Late | Three fully loaded C-54's (5th-7th | +afternoon | Flights out) carry debris to Los | + | Alamos, NM, via Kirtland Field. | + | 4:00pm. The crate from Bomb Pit | + | Number One is transferred to a B-29 | + | and flown (8th Flight out) to Fort | + | Worth. | 5:00pm. Ball of light + | The Roswell Daily Record carries a | deposits odd metal on + | sanitized version of Barzel's story. | ground near Midland, MI. + | | +Early | | 6:00pm. Officers and a +evening | | mortician in Fort Worth + | | meet the incoming B-29 + | | from Roswell; the flight + | | crew returns to Roswell + | | with Marcel. + | | +Late | 8:00pm. Marcel arrives back in | 11:30pm. Constable in +evening | Roswell (4th Flight in). | Grand Falls, Newfoundland, + | | observes 4 flying disks. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Thu. 7/10 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | Clean-up continues at the crash | [A flight from Wright Field + | sites. | arrives in Fort Worth and + | Brazel continues to be interrogated | returns to Wright Field + | and held at a guest house on the | with more debris and a + | base. | large, metallic container + | [Remaining debris confiscated from | on board.] + | Sheriff Wilcox by military | FBI memo, Fitch to Ladd. + | personnel.] | Aborted V-2 launch at + | | White Sands. + | | [General Twining stops at + | | White Sands before return- + | | ing to Wright Field.] + | | President Truman derides + | | flying disk stories. + | | 4:00pm. TWA representative + | | sees flying disk at Harmon + | | Field, Newfoundland. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Fri. 7/11 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | MPs and others involved in the | + | retreival are debriefed and told to | + | forget that it happened. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Sat. 7/12 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | Bill Brazel Jr. returns to his | 6:30pm. Flying disk follows + | father's ranch; no evidence of a | a C-47 at Elmendorf Field, + | military presence remains. | Alaska. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Late July | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | July 15 - Mac Brazel returns to his | + | ranch from the Roswell base after his| 7/20- Silver-white disk + | interrogation. | moving at great speed + | | reported near Cumberland, + | | MD. + | | 7/26- National Security + | | Act passes, which + | | coordinates the Army, Navy, + | | and Air Force into a single + | | national military + | | establishment under the + | | Secretary of Defense. The + | | Army Air Force becomes + | | the U.S. Air Force. + | | 7/30- The first Air Force + | | "estimate" of the nature + | | of the flying disks is + | | drafted by Gen. Schulgen's + | | staff. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +August '47| | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | Mac Brazel and Tommy Tyree spot a | 8/19- FBI memo, Fitch to + | piece of debris in a sinkhole near | Ladd. + | the debris field. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Sept. '47 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | Prof. Lincoln LaPaz, secretly charged| 9/5- Gen. Schulgen tells + | with reconstructing the object's | the FBI that the disks do + | trajectory, arrives from Washington | not belong to the Air + | and rediscovers the area of black- | Force. + | ened ground with Rickett. | 9/23- Gen. Twining calls + | | for an official invest- + | | igation of the flying + | | disks. + | | 9/24- Alleged memo from + | | Truman to Forrestal, + | | establishing Operation + | | Majestic Twelve. Vannevar + | | Bush meets with Truman. + | | 9/25- FBI memo, Ladd to + | | Hoover, advising that FBI + | | discontinue flying disk + | | investigations. + | | 9/26- Sidney Souers named + | | head of new National + | | Security Council, which + | | holds its first meeting. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Oct. '47 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | | 10/1- Truman letter to + | | Vannevar Bush, the sig- + | | nature of which matches + | | the MJ-12 memo of 9/24. + | | 10/28- Schulgen issues a + | | draft collection memo- + | | randum that outlines the + | | essential elements of + | | information required to + | | analyze flying disk + | | reports. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Sep. '48 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | LaPaz tells Rickett that he is still | + | convinced the Roswell debris was an | + | unoccupied probe from another world. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- +Summer '49| | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | The gouge is still visible at the | + | debris field. | + | Mac Brazel, having found various | + | scraps of debris for the past two | + | years, mentions in Corona that he | + | still has the material. The next day| + | a Capt. Armstrong and three others | + | from the base confiscate the pieces. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + 1978 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | | Pappy Henderson confides + | | to a close friend that he + | | had flown wreckage from + | | a crashed saucer to Wright + | | Field; he still has a + | | fragment of the debris. + | | Marcel, located by + | | researcher Stan Friedman, + | | says he is sure the debris + | | was nothing from earth. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + 1980 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | | In Search Of interviews + | | Marcel, who says he is + | | sure the Roswell debris + | | was nothing from earth. + | | Charles Berlitz and William + | | L. Moore publish their + | | report on the case, The + | | Roswell Incident. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + 1982 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | | Pappy Henderson tells his + | | wife Sappho about his role + | | in the recovery. +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + 1988 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | Oct.- An Air Force pickup truck is | + | seen on the Foster Ranch; the driver | + | asks ranch hand Jim Parker if the | + | Roswell crash site is nearby. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + 1989 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | Sept. 15-19 The Center for UFO | + | Studies conducts an expedition to | + | the debris field. | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + 1991 | | +----------|--------------------------------------|--------------------------- + | | July- Kevin Randle and + | | Donald Schmitt's account + | | of the case, UFO Crash + | | at Roswell, is published + | | by Avon Books. +----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Often, after people made a report to + the ÿauthorities, ÿÿthat was the last they heard of it. ÿÿAny ÿphysical + evidence they offered went up in smoke." + + Petri ÿsaid ÿthe ÿ10-year-old center is ÿaccumulating ÿequipment ÿand + personnel to set up a monitoring station and a field unit, ÿprobably in + a van. Both will be equipped with devices such as radar, mangetometers, + cameras, ÿvideo equipment, radiation and sound detection equipment, and + chart recorders. + + "There are many Americans who are funding this kind of research right + out ÿof their own pockets," ÿhe said. ÿ"Just like there are people ÿwho + spend thousands of dollars a year fishing. This is my hobby. This is + where my money goes. There also have been donations and benefactors + interested in our research." + + The scientific instrumentation -- much of which the center owns -- + sounds impressive. But some of the most fruitful research -- retrieving + government documents pertaining to UFOs --forces the private UFO + investigator to use simpler but equally powerful tools such as + typewriters and the mail. + + "The Freedom of Information Act is one of the nicest things that ever + happened to us," Petri said. "There is a world of information in the + hands of the government and individuals. If it was gathered, studied + and disseminated properly, the information would shed some light on the + UFO enigma. Many groups are trying to do that now." + + Petri's organization is interested in investigating suspected landing + sites and trace materials from all kinds of encounters -- from cattle + mutilations to indentations thought to be made by saucer landing pods. + And the center is involved in the computer enhancement of photos + showing UFOs to determine their validity. + + UFO abduction cases also draw the center's attention if there's + evidence in addition to an abductee's account. + + Petri also serves as state section director of Bastrop and Travis + Counties for the Mutual UFO Network. + + The center and MUFON work together to train UFO investigators, + discuss cases and plan field trips for investigations. Joint meetings + are under the acronym PULSE --Project UFO Landings, Sightings and + Encounters -- so the two organizations can maintain separate + identities. + + "The goals are to share information and ferret out bad, distorted + information," Petri said. "So the organizations don't mind + communicating." + + Ten members are training to be field investigators. Three have been + trained. Most are professional people with skills such as photography, + computers, legal investigation and medicine. + + Membership is by invitation. The center seeks people with + professional expertise that could be of use in UFO investigations. + Though it costs nothing to join, members must subscribe to the MUFON + UFO Journal. + + "We're not here to make converts but to collect evidence," Petri said. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2766.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2766.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..01e35cc0 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2766.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +SUBJECT: THE SECRET WEAPON THEORY FILE: UFO2766 + + + + + + + + From UFOs and the Limits of Science by Ronald D. Story c. 1981 + + Reproduced for educational purposes only. + + The Secret Weapon Theory + + This theory, which was more popular in the 1950s, refers to advanced + technological flying devices constructed by the U.S. government or some + foreign power. The proposition has some very serious problems. First, + UFOs were reported soon after World War II, when military jet aircraft + were barely operational. Had the U.S. had operational "saucers" capable + of the performance described, it would not have expended the hundreds + of billions of dollars that it has, since that time, in the development + of alternate and less efficient military weapons systems. + + Secondly, even if such craft had been experimentally tested or even + operationally deployed, they would not have been permitted to approach + civilian airports, urban centers, and all the everyday places where + UFOs are reported. Also, they would not have been deployed to the + dozens of countries where UFOs are reported. On the other hand, such + craft would very probably have been revealed to the world as a major + technological breakthrough and as a warning to all potential + adversaries. The political advantages of the latter would have been + enormous. + + A third problem would be the question of security. The development and + operation of such craft would have involved many thousands of persons + over a long period of time, and it is almost inconceivable that the + secret would not have eventually surfaced. These same arguments can, of + ocurse, be applied to a Soviet secret weapon, or one from any other + country. A British/Canadian Secret Weapon Theory, for example, was once + in vogue, and one organization has been promoting a Nazi Secret Weapon + Theory, interwoven with Adolf Hitler's possible survival and escape + from Berlin. The organization has published a book supporting this + claim and also makes available other Nazi-oriented books, posters, + bumper stickers, and tapes (such as "Beautiful Nazi Songs and Marches," + "Songs of the Brownshirts," "Dr. Goebbels and the Third Reich," and + "Adolf hitler Speaks to the Reichstag"). As with all other "secret + weapon" theories, it is difficult to imagine how such craft could have + been operated for more than thirty years without political utilization + or without the truth emerging. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2767.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2767.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f5e533bc --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2767.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +SUBJECT: NASA'S SEARCH FOR E.T. ABOUT TO BEGIN FILE: UFO2767 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + -------------------------------------------- + ARTICLE / OKLAHOMA MUFON + -------------------------- + NASA'S SEARCH FOR ALIEN LIFE ABOUT TO BEGIN + --------------------------------------------- + + Provided by: Oklahoma Mufonews Newsletter January 1992 + + + Green Valley, W.VA. - It could be a crucial moment in human history, + the start of a new age of exploration that leads to discoveries + eclipsing those of Christopher Columbus. Or it may be an interstellar + wild goose chase. + + Next Columbus Day, after almost two decades of skepticism and debate, + the National Aeronautics and Space Administration plans to launch a + seven-year, $100 million effort to scan the heavens for the equivalent + of two little words: "Greetings Earthlings" + + The program, called the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence, + will be humankind's most ambitious effort so far to pick up radio + signals from beings outside out solar system. + + "It would probably be the biggest advance since the birth of + language," said astronomer Eric J. Chaisson, senior scientist at + Baltimore's Space Telescope Science Institute, who sat on the panel + that helped plan the search. + + For the first few years, all SETI work will involve borrowing radio + telescopes normally used for astronomy or satellite tracking. + + But in 1995, when a huge new radio telescope is completed at the + National Radio Astronomy Observatory here, SETI astronomers will get + the full-time use of the observatory's current workhouse-a 140-foot + wide, white steel dish that looms above the farmland in this isolated + Appalachian valley. + + Observatory Director George Seielstad, who navigates a battleship- + gray diesel sedan (the spark plugs in gasoline-powered engines cause + radio noise) around the observatory grounds, is typical of many + astronomers in that he has come to suspect that life probably has + developed on planets orbiting other stars. + + And on some of those planets, he thinks, intelligent life probably + has built technological societies. + + But the odds against finding those civilizations, he figures, are - + well, astronomical. + + Even if extraterrestrial civilizations pepper the starry night, + scientists speculate they may not want to advertise themselves. Or they + might be too advanced, or not advanced enough to use radio signals. + + Or their signals may be drowned out by the rising babble of earthly + radio transmissions, especially those produced by the world's military + forces and the growing number of global communications satellites. + + Or those cultures may simply be scattered too thinly in what + scientists call the "cosmic haystack" - the universe's billions of + galaxies, each containing hundreds of billions of stars. + + Chaisson, a former member of the panel of astronomers that planned + the SETI project, compared the task to sifting the sands of the + Atlantic beaches by hand in search of a single small diamond. + + Still, many scientists support the hunt. + + "The reward is so enormous." Seielstad said, "It's such a significant + discovery that you have to find out. As humans, our intellectual + curiosity sort of demands we find out if this is true." + + "At least this set of measurements will let us know something," he + says. "You're trying. You're not just speculating. It's not just asking + how many angels can dance on the head of a pin." + + "Anybody who thinks they know the chances of success is a fool," said + astronomer Frank D. Drake, who has estimated that there may be a few + thousand extraterrestrial civilizations scattered among the Milky Way's + 400 billion stars. "But my guess is we have a real chance of succeeding + by the turn of the century." + + Others think it will take much longer. In 1985, one astronomer at a + SETI conference offered the "fairly optimistic" assessment that a + successful search might take 5,000 years. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2768.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2768.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ddbcb829 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2768.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,171 @@ +SUBJECT: FEDERAL CORRUPTION FILE: UFO2768 + + + +PART 1 + + + + Filename: Harry1.Art + Type : Article + Author : Harry Martin + Date : 03/12/91 + Desc : Federal Corruption Series Part I + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + FEDERAL CORRUPTION + By Harry V. Martin + A NEW SERIES + (c) Copyright Napa Sentinel, 1991 + March 12, 1991 + Reprinted with permission of the Napa Sentinel + + + EDITOR'S NOTE: When discussing the widespread corruption in the + federal Bankruptcy Courts, it is difficult to focus on just the + Northern California jurisdiction. This new series will focus on the + extent of the corruption throughout the nation and its linkage to + various courts. + + When the U.S. Government sent Anthony Souza to Northern California to + investigate what government officials called "the dirtiest system" in + the United States, it was aware that the entire bankruptcy system is + unraveling. Former LendVest Trustee Charles Duck was the main focal + point of Souza's investigation-even though a local bankruptcy judge + called him the most "honest man" he had ever known. Duck's ties to + bankruptcy judges throughout the Bay Area is providing a picture of + intense corruption going deep inside the law enforcement agencies. Even + Souza admits privately that his hands are tied. + + There has been one known murder in Northern California that has + strong possible links to the bankruptcy system. There have been several + more in Texas. This series will focus on different incidents from + various parts of the country. + + One of the most bizarre cases of corruption in the bankruptcy system + involves a small Washington-based computer software firm called INSLAW. + In 1982 the firm signed a three year contract for $10 million with the + U.S. Department of Justice. The software program INSLAW developed was a + case-management computer program called PROMIS. The software, which was + developed by Bill Hamilton, enabled the U.S. attorneys to keep track of + information on cases, witnesses and defendants, and to manage their + caseloads more effectively. + + Though the U.S. Attorney's Office placed the PROMIS program into + operation in several of its offices, it refused to pay Hamilton. + Subsequently Hamilton was forced into the bankruptcy court. Former U.S. + Attorney General Elliot Richardson, representing Hamilton, advised him + to sue the Justice Department for stealing his software. + + Anthony Pasciuto, who was the deputy director of the Executive Office + for U.S. Trustees, which oversees bankruptcy estates on behalf of the + court, had stated that the Justice Department was improperly applying + pressure on his office to convert INSLAW's Chapter 11 reorganization + into a Chapter 7 liquidation, which would mean that all company assets, + including the rights to PROMIS would be sold at auction. + + U.S. Trustee Cornelius Blackshear corroborated Pasciuto's story. Two + days after he was visited by Justice Department officials, Blackshear + issued a sworn affidavit recanting his earlier testimony. + + The Justice Department recommended that Pasciuto be fired. The memo + seeking his dismissal reads ". . . but for Mr. Pasciuto's highly + irresponsible actions, the Department would be in a much better + litigation posture than it presently finds itself." + + Federal Bankruptcy Judge George F. Bason, Jr., ruled in 1987 that the + Justice Department had acted illegally in trying to put INSLAW out of + business. Bason sent Edwin Meese a letter recommending that he + designate an appropriate outside official to review the dispute because + of the prima facie evidence of perjury by Justice Department officials, + Meese did not respond. + + Later that year after nearly three weeks of trial, Bason ruled in + favor of INSLAW in its suit against the Justice Department. "The + department (of Justice) took, converted, stole INSLAW's software by + trickery, fraud and deceit," the judge stated, adding, "the Justice + Department engaged in an outrageous, deceitful, fraudulent game of cat + and mouse, demonstrating contempt for both the law and any principle of + fair dealing." Judge Bason ordered the Justice Department to pay INSLAW + $6.8 million. Bason's verdict was upheld on appeal by U.S. District + Court Judge William B. Bryant. Three months after Bason's ruling, he + was denied re-appointment to the bankruptcy court. + + Hamilton's trouble began when a friend of Meese attempted to buy out + INSLAW, but Hamilton turned him down. In a court document, the + potential buyer is quoted as saying, "We have ways of making you sell." + It was after that the trouble for INSLAW began. + + The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on investigations, chaired by + Senator Sam Nunn, began an investigation into the INSLAW case. Once the + inquiry got under way, the Senate Judiciary Committee's chief + investigator, Ronald LeGrand, received a phone call from an unnamed + senior officer at the Justice Department--a person LeGrand had known + for years. The caller told LeGrand that the "INSLAW case was a lot + dirtier for the Department of Justice than Watergate had been, both in + its breadth and its depth." + + The Nunn Committee completed its investigation and published its + report. It recognized that INSLAW has been a victim of the system and + stated that "the Justice Department had been uncooperative, refusing to + allow witnesses to testify without representatives of the litigation + division being present to advise them. The effect of their presence was + to intimidate those who might otherwise have cooperated with the + investigation." The report states, "The staff learned through various + channels of a number of Department employees who desired to speak to + the Subcommittee, but who chose not to out of fear for their jobs." + + Congressman Jack Brooks of Texas has opened a new investigation into + the INSLAW case. Brooks is investigating allegations that Justice + Department officials--including Meese--conspired to force INSLAW into + bankruptcy in order to deliver the firm's software to a rival company. + The rival firm, according to court records and law enforcement + officials, was headed by Earl W. Brian, a former Cabinet officer under + then California Governor Ronald Reagan and a longtime friend of several + high-ranking Republican officials. Meese had accepted a $15,000 + interest-free loan from Brian. Meese's wife was an investor in the + rival company. This is the same company that allegedly sought to buy + INSLAW from Hamilton and made the alleged threat. + + What happened to PROMIS? + + * The program is in use throughout the nation and has been used also + for military intelligence information. It has the ability to track + troop movements. + + * An official of the Israeli government claims Brian sold the PROMIS + program to Iraqi military intelligence at a meeting in Santiago, + Chile. The software could have been used in the recent Persian Gulf + War to track U.S. and allied troop movements. Ari Ben-Menashe, a 12 + year veteran of Israeli intelligence, made the statement in a sworn + affidavit to the court. + + * The software is now operative with the CIA, the National Security + Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and the U.S. Department of + Justice. Only the Justice Department is authorized by the court to + use the software. + + * Brian now claims he acquired the property rights to the software and + consummated a sale to Israel, although he had allowed its use by the + Israeli intelligence forces for as many as five years before the + actual sale. + + In essence, a small company in Washington developed a very sensitive + computer program which the Justice Department obtained. The courts + ruled in favor of the developer and the judge who made the ruling was + never re-appointed. The software was acquired by a friend of Meese and + the Justice Department has never paid for its use and has allowed other + agencies the right of its use. + + The bankruptcy court was a tool--as it appears to be with other + jurisdictions--to support the economic gain of a few. Charles Duck was + not alone--as the record will prove. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Martin + Second of a New Series + (c) Copyright Napa Sentinel, 1991 + March 15, 1991 + Reprinted with permission of the Napa Sentinel + + + The corruption of the bankruptcy system is endemic of a political + patronage system with its roots going back to former U.S. Attorney + Edwin Meese, according to many former employees of the Department of + Justice. The INSLAW case--reported last week in the "Napa Sentinel"--is + a microcosm of the entire system. + + As a result of the INSLAW cases, many heads in the Justice Department + were lopped off. When Judge George Bason, a bankruptcy court judge, + refused to liquidate INSLAW, ruling instead that the Department of + Justice used deceit, trickery and fraud, he was only one of four who + were not re-appointed to their jobs. A total of 132 were re-appointed. + + But to show the collusion of the Justice Department, when it removed + Judge Bason from the bench after his ruling against them and for + INSLAW, they had S. Martin Teel appointed to the bench to replace + Bason. Who was Teel? He was a Department of Justice attorney who + unsuccessfully argued the INSLAW case before Judge Bason. + + Tony Pasciuto admitted that he was ordered to pressure the bankruptcy + judge to rule against INSLAW. After being subpoenaed by INSLAW's + attorney, Pasciuto was offered a long-awaited transfer by the Justice + Department from Washington, D.C. to Albany, New York. Pasciuto bought a + home in Albany and then changed his testimony. After the testimony was + completed, the Justice Department cancelled his transfer. Pasciuto had + to commute from Albany to Washington. + + Former Attorney General Elliott Richardson made a list of the + baffling questions of why the Justice Department wanted INSLAW declared + insolvent and why it wouldn't pay a $6.8 million settlement to the + small company. INSLAW received an offer to sell their company and they + refused. The buyer informed the company that he had powerful political + influence and "We have ways of making you sell." Within 90 days of that + threat, the Justice Department commenced its attack on INSLAW. + + The company that made the attempt to buy INSLAW had financial + connections to Meese and some of Meese's cronies. When the battle + ended, INSLAW was broke, an attorney, a Justice Department + whistleblower and a judge were out to work, but INSLAW was saved by a + corporate giant--IBM--who rescued the company virtually from the + auction block. + + The company that allegedly made the threat was Hadron. It has had + brushes with the Security Exchange Commission, it has gone to the brink + of being broke and one of its companies has been accused by the SEC of + fraud and manipulation of stock prices, the company lost $4.3 million + in one year. It soon sunk $12 million in the red. + + But once Meese became Attorney General, Hadron suddenly received + lucrative Pentagon contracts, along with the Agency for International + Development. The company was also awarded a $40 million contract from + the Justice Department, despite protests against the bidding process. + One member of Hadron's board was Dr. Earl Brian, who was in Reagan's + California cabinet along with Meese. Meese was chief of staff in + California. The Deputy Attorney General was D. Lowell Jensen, who had + competed against INSLAW years earlier. The person in charge of making + Justice Department payments for INSLAW's software--and who didn't--was + an employee who had been fired from INSLAW. Jensen was also in trouble + when the Senate was investigating the Iran-Contra scandal. Apparently + the Senate committee discovered a memo written by Jensen to the + National Security Council warning that the Miami federal prosecutors + where on Ollie North's trail. The memo revealed that the Justice + Department, who was supposed to prosecute the Iran-Contra affair, + actually was tipping off the government in advance. + + One Justice Department official testified at the INSLAW hearing that + INSLAW's software could be dangerous. Thomas Stanton testified "INSLAW + could besmirch the U.S. Trustee program." The program is so + sophisticated that it could trace all assets, track all trustees and + judges. Another Justice Department employee stated that the U.S. + Trustee program was flagrantly political. "It was a way of getting + cronies into office. There would be 50 or 60 positions to be filled... + it was Meese's baby." The official also stated, "It was always puzzling + to me how he got away with what he got away with. He'd do things that + were blatantly wrong and no one would question him--it's kind of + scary." + + The Meese program would concentrate too much power in one government + department. "It's supposed to act as a watchdog over lawyers and + trustees, but the problem is it's more. It has a considerable amount of + power to control the administration of cases. When a case moves from + bankruptcy to liquidation, the U.S. Trustees office names the trustee, + who converts the assets, oversees the auction, and retains appraisers + who will put a price tag on the leavings. The U.S. Trustee's program + also links Justice and the IRS. The thing that's a little frightening + about it is that the U.S. Trustee department sees itself as a part of + the tax-collecting function of government. The Justice Department + represents the IRS, and the IRS is often the biggest creditor in + liquidation," states a leading bankruptcy attorney. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Martin + Third in a NEW SERIES + (c) Copyright Napa Sentinel + March 22, 1991 + Reprinted with permission of the Napa Sentinel + + + As if things weren't getting hot enough for the federal bankruptcy + court system, but now the INSLAW case is becoming another Watergate. + INSLAW was a Washington, D.C.-based computer firm that sold a highly + technical tracking software program to the U.S. Department of Justice. + Federal judges have upheld INSLAW's contention that the Justice + Department, under Attorney General Edwin Meese, stole INSLAW's computer + program. + + A bankruptcy judge that made the ruling was not re-appointed to a 14- + year term. Several Justice Department officials have since been fired + or quit over the case. + + Now a U.S. House Subcommittee is investigating the case and putting a + lot of heat on the Justice Department. Attorney General Dick Thornburgh + has been placed in an awkward position because of the case. Though he + was not Attorney General at the time the INSLAW scandal broke, he was + the man who investigated it and cleared the Justice Department of wrong + doing. + + Testimony has come forward that the Justice Department, under Meese, + pressured the bankruptcy courts to declare INSLAW insolvent, forcing + the company to release its assets--including the critical software. + INSLAW was once threatened if it didn't sell its company to a close + Meese associate. After the threat, INSLAW's life was made miserable by + the Justice Department. When INSLAW sued the Justice Department it was + awarded $6.8 million. The judge who made the award was fired and + replaced with a newly appointed judge--the man who prosecuted the case + for the Justice Department. A second judge upheld the first judge's + ruling. + + The House subcommittee is accusing Thornburgh of stonewalling the + Committee's request for hundreds of documents involved in the INSLAW + case. Two years ago, the same stalling tactics by the Attorney + General's office played havoc with a Senate investigation of the same + problem. But Texas Congressman Jack Brooks is putting the heat on the + Justice Department to turn over its records on INSLAW-- Brook's + committee controls the purse strings of the Justice Department and has + more clout than did the Senate Committee. + + The protected software has been pirated to the Canadian government. + Those who were found responsible for the pirating were close associates + of Meese. "No sooner had the piracy been confirmed in Canada than an + Israeli intelligence officer alleged that PROMIS (INSLAW's software + program) was being used illegally by the CIA and other U.S. + intelligence agencies," states James J. Kilpatrick in the March 15 + edition of "The Miami Herald." + + After the re-appointment of the federal bankruptcy judge was halted + because of his ruling on the INSLAW case, almost every bankruptcy judge + that is handed the case declines to have anything to do with it. + "Nobody wants to touch the case," states Chief District Judge Aubrey + Robinson. + + According to Brooks, the Justice Department is now ready to turn over + the documents, states the "Legal Times" of Washington, D.C. The scandal + touches many high officials in the Justice Department or formerly + associated with the Department. They include: + + * Edwin Meese, former Attorney General. + + * Attorney General Richard Thornburgh. + + * U.S. Attorney Jay Stephens. + + * Justice Department Watchdog Michael Sheheen, Jr. + + * Gerald McDowell, chief of the Criminal Division's Public Integrity + Section. + + * Lawrence McWhorter, head of the Executive Office of the U.S. + Attorney's Criminal Division. + + * Bankruptcy Judge Cornelius Blackshear. + + * North District of California Federal District Judge D. Lowell + Jensen, who was a former Deputy Attorney General and once chief + competitor to INSLAW in California. + + The Brooks Committee has also learned that the Justice Department's + computer system is "all botched up" and has also learned that there is + a lot of sensitive data within the Department of Justice computer files + that is not secure. The INSLAW program was to organize everything and + track cases all over the country. + + The Justice Department is the prime law enforcement agency in the + United States. A scandal there could rock the nation in a similar + fashion as Watergate did during the Nixon Administration. + + The Justice Department oversees the Federal Bankruptcy Court and the + Trustee system. The Justice Department is investigating the Federal + Bankruptcy Court and the Trustee System. The Justice Department has + been caught using the Bankruptcy System for their own interest. In + other words, the Justice Department is investigating the Justice + Department's Bankruptcy System for potential wrongdoings by the Justice + Department. + + But is there really justice in this land? + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Martin + Fourth in a NEW SERIES + (c) Copyright Napa Sentinel + March 29, 1991 + Reprinted with permission of the Napa Sentinel + + + If you own a VCR or rent or buy movies, you will be familiar with the + warning that appears on your screen that the film you are viewing is + protected by a copyright and that the Federal Bureau of Investigations + or Interpol can arrest you for copying the film. The warning is to + prevent "pirating" of someone else's copyrighted material. + + But what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander. The + United States Justice Department stands accused of pirating copyrighted + material--having supplied it to the Canadian government, the Israeli + government and Iraqi government . . . and to the FBI, itself. + + That is how deep the INSLAW computer software case has become. The + case started out when the Justice Department bought PROMIS, a + copyrighted software program that helps to track criminal cases + throughout the United States. When friends and associates of then + Attorney General Edwin Meese attempted to buy the software company, + INSLAW turned them down and then life was made miserable for INSLAW. + Within 90 days the Justice Department reneged on their contract with + INSLAW and refused to pay for the software program, even though it was + using it. The Justice Department is accused by federal judges of + attempting to bankrupt INSLAW and then hasten the bankruptcy court to + declare them insolvent. Instead, the courts ruled that the Justice + Department used "fraud, deceit and trickery" against INSLAW and awarded + the small computer software company $6.8 million in damages. + + The case became deeper when friends of Meese began to sell the + program to foreign military establishments and the Justice Department + began to provide the copyrighted material to other U.S. government + agencies. A man who was once fired from INSLAW was put in charge of + INSLAW's payments--which were never forthcoming. Another Justice + Department official, who is now a Federal Judge in Northern California, + was a direct competitor to INSLAW in California. The Judge who made the + $6.8 million ruling lost his job. The attorney for the Justice + Department who fought against the Judge's ruling was promoted to the + Judge's vacant position. There have been wholesale changes and firings + at the Justice Department over the INSLAW case. + + The Justice Department is now under investigation by a House + subcommittee and this committee is receiving many documents to support + the premise that the Justice Department has a skeleton in its closet + that stinks greater than Watergate. + + But new documents emerging in the case demonstrate a wider scandal. + In an affidavit dated February 17, 1991, Ari Ben-Menashe describes his + 12 year service for the Government of Israel in foreign intelligence + and provides an eyewitness account of a presentation to an Israeli + intelligence agency in 1987 in Tel Aviv, by Earl W. Brian of the United + States. + + Brian is a close associate of Meese from his California days. Brian + and Meese were both in Ronald Reagan's California Cabinet when Reagan + was governor. + + According to Ben-Menashe's affidavit, Brian stated in his presence + that he had acquired the property rights to the PROMIS computer + software and that as of 1987 "all U.S. intelligence agencies, including + the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency and + the National Security Agency, were using the PROMIS computer software." + Ben-Menashe further states in his affidavit that Brian consummated a + sale of the PROMIS computer software to the Government of Israel in + 1987. + + He further claimed that Brian also sold the PROMIS computer software + to Iraqi Military Intelligence. According to Ben-Menashe's affidavit, + the Israeli intelligence officer learned of this sale from an + eyewitness who helped Brian broker the sale in his office in Santiago, + Chile--Carlos Carduen of Carduen Industries. Carduen has been a major + supplier to the Government of Iraq with weapons and munitions. + + The Federal Government of Canada has admitted that INSLAW's PROMIS + software is currently operating in at least two federal departments, + including the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The Mounties are using the + program in 900 locations in Canada. + + INSLAW never sold its software to Canada, Iraq, Israel, the Central + Intelligence Agency or the National Security Agency. It also has not + been paid by the Justice Department for its use, despite the $6.8 + million ruling in INSLAW's favor. + + The Justice Department insists that the FBI is not using the PROMIS + program. Yet FBI Director William Sessions and Deputy Assistant + Director Kier Boyd, have made it clear that the FBI now is unable or + unwilling to provide assurances that pirated software is not included + in the case management information system used by FBI field offices. + + And in a startling development, a man named Charles Hayes has + asserted that the U.S. government has pirated the PROMIS computer + program. The Justice Department has sued Hayes in the U.S. District + Court in Lexington, Kentucky, seeking to compel him to return copies of + computer software left on equipment Hayes' salvage business purchased + from the U.S. Attorney's Office in Lexington. Hayes has publicly + claimed that the salvaged equipment contained pirated copies of + INSLAW's PROMIS software. + + One cover-up begets another cover-up? This is how Watergate spread. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Martin + Fifth in a NEW SERIES + (c) Copyright Napa Sentinel + April 2, 1991 + Reprinted with permission of the Napa Sentinel + + Within eight days of signing a damaging statement against the U.S. + Justice Department in the INSLAW software case, a key witness against + the government has been arrested and held without bail. Michael J. + Riconoscuito was arrested Friday night and is being held without bail + at Snohomish County jail in Everett, Washington. + + Riconoscuito is being held without bail and no charges have been + filed against him. He was arrested with two local men who had just sold + him computer equipment for $1000. The two were known drug users. + Riconoscuito, according to jail officials, is being held for the U.S. + Marshal's Office--not on any alleged local criminal violation. + + Riconoscuito, and the two other persons, were arrested Friday night + by more than a dozen U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agents. + + On March 21, Riconoscuito, a computer software technician, filed an + affidavit in the INSLAW case. In February, Riconoscuito was called by a + former Justice Department official and warned against cooperating with + an investigation into the case by the House Judiciary Committee. The + former Justice Department official is reported to have threatened + Riconoscuito with criminal prosecution if he talked about the INSLAW + case. The Justice Department has been accused by a Federal bankruptcy + Judge of stealing INSLAW's PROMIS software which has the capability of + tracking criminal and military movements. According to sworn + affidavits, Riconoscuito was allegedly told by U.S. Justice Department + officials that if he did testify in the INSLAW case he would be + criminally prosecuted in an unrelated savings and loan case and would + suffer an unfavorable outcome in a child custody dispute. + + The threat was made by telephone and a recording was made of the + conversation, according to Riconoscuito. He indicated that two copies + of the recorded telephone conversation were confiscated by federal + agents when he was arrested. Riconoscuito told the "St. Louis Post- + Dispatch" that at least one other copy remained in a secured location. + + Riconoscuito's testimony, along with others, claims that the U.S. + Justice Department illegally distributed INSLAW's software to military + and intelligence agencies in Iraq, Libya, South Korea, Singapore, + Israel, Canada and other nations. + + A Federal Judge ruled last week in Washington, D.C., that the INSLAW + case be transferred from the Bankruptcy Court to the U.S. District + Court. + + During the early 1980s, Riconoscuito served as the Director of + Research for a joint venture between the Wackenhut Corporation of Coral + Gables, Florida and the Cabazon Band of Indians of Indio, California. + The joint venture was located on the Cabazon reservation. The joint + venture sought to develop and manufacture certain materials that are + used in military and national security operations, and biological and + chemical warfare weapons. The Cabazon Band of Indians are a sovereign + nation and thus have immunity from U.S. regulations and stringent + government controls. + + The Wackenhut-Cabazon joint venture was intended to support the needs + of a number of foreign governments and forces, including forces and + governments in Central America and the Middle East. The Contras in + Nicaragua represented one of the most important priorities for the + joint venture. The joint venture maintained close liaison with certain + elements of the U.S. Government, including representatives of + intelligence, military and law enforcement agencies. Among the frequent + visitors to the Wackenhut-Cabazon joint venture were Peter Videnicks of + the U.S. Department of Justice and a close associate of Videnicks, Dr. + Earl W. Brian--who served in the California cabinet of Governor Ronald + Reagan and who has very close ties and business dealings with Meese. + + In connection with Riconoscuito's work, he engaged in some software + work in 1983 and 1984 on the PROMIS computer software product, + developed by INSLAW but being used--without payment--by the U.S. + Department of Justice. A federal court has awarded INSLAW $6.8 million + against the U.S. Department of Justice. + + According to Riconoscuito's court affidavit, Brian was spearheading + the plan for the worldwide use of the PROMIS computer software--which + was licensed and patented to INSLAW. "The purpose of the PROMIS + software modifications that I made in 1983 and 1984 was to support a + plan for the implementation of PROMIS in law enforcement and + intelligence agencies worldwide." He said that some of the + modifications that he made were specifically designed to facilitate the + implementation of PROMIS within two agencies of the Government of + Canada: the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Canadian Security and + Intelligence Service. "Earl W. Brian would check with me from time to + time to make certain that the work would be completed in time to + satisfy the schedule for the RCMP and CSIS implementations of PROMIS." + Brian, without permission from INSLAW, but acting with the U.S. + Department of Justice and U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, reportedly + sold this version of PROMIS to the Government of Canada, according to + Riconoscuito." + + Riconoscuito predicted his own arrest eight days later. In his + affidavit filed with the court on March 21, 1991, he states, "In + February 1991, I had a telephone conversation with Peter Videnicks, + then still employed by the U.S. Department of Justice. Videnicks + attempted during this telephone conversation to persuade me not to + cooperate with an independent investigation of the government's piracy + of INSLAW's proprietary PROMIS software being conducted by the + Committee on the Judiciary of the U.S. House of Representatives. + + "Videnicks stated that I would be rewarded for a decision not to + cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee investigation. Videnicks + forecasted an immediate and favorable resolution of a protracted child + custody dispute being prosecuted against my wife by her former husband, + if I were to decide not to cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee + investigation. + + "One punishment that Videnicks outlined was the future inclusion of + me and my father in a criminal prosecution of certain business + associates of mine in Orange County, California, in connection with the + operation of a savings and loan institution in Orange County. By way of + underscoring his power to influence such decisions at the U.S. + Department of Justice, Videnicks informed me of the indictment of those + business associates prior to the time when that indictment was unsealed + and made public. + + "Another punishment that Videnicks threatened should I cooperate with + the House Judiciary Committee, is prosecution by the U.S. Department of + Justice for perjury. Videnicks warned me that credible witnesses would + come forward to contradict any damaging claims that I made in testimony + before the House Judiciary Committee, and that I would subsequently be + prosecuted for perjury by the U.S. Department of Justice for my + testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. + + As predicted, after Riconoscuito's affidavit was filed with the court + and reported in the "St. Louis Post-Dispatch" and "Washington Post," he + was arrested and is now being held without bail and with no charges. + + The INSLAW case is becoming another Watergate and involves former + Attorney General Edwin Meese, a federal judge, several high officials + of the U.S. Department of Justice and even former White House aide + Robert C. McFarlane, who transferred INSLAW software to Israel. + + There are many affidavits being filed in the case to verify + wrongdoing on the part of the Justice Department. Yet the Justice + Department continues to refuse to supply the House Judiciary Committee + with any documents in the case. The Committee is now threatening to cut + U.S. Department of Justice funding if they don't cooperate in supplying + these documents. + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2773.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2773.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..315bf8d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2773.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +SUBJECT: FEDERAL CORRUPTION FILE: UFO2773 + + + +PART 6 + + + + Filename: Harry6.Art + Type : Article + Author : Harry Martin + Date : 04/05/91 + Desc : Federal Corruption Series Part VI + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + HOUSE JUDICIARY INVESTIGATORS SEEK NEW DECLARATION + By Harry V. Martin + Sixth in a NEW SERIES + (c) Copyright Napa Sentinel, 1991 + April 5, 1991 + Reprinted with permission of the Napa Sentinel + + + Congressional investigators have flown to Tacoma, Washington, to + interview Michael Riconoscuito--a key witness in the INSLAW case. + Riconoscuito provided a damaging statement against the U.S. Justice + Department in the stolen software case that potentially could become + another Watergate. + + Riconoscuito stated in his declaration that the U.S. Justice + Department had threatened to have him arrested should he cooperate with + the House Judiciary Committee investigation into the U.S. Justice + Departments role in the INSLAW case. Two federal judges have ruled that + the U.S. Justice Department stole INSLAW's PROMIS software and used + "trickery and deceit" in the the case. One of those judges was not re- + appointed to the bench after his ruling. The House Committee has + already heard testimony that accuses the U.S. Justice Department of + attempting to interfere with the courts in an effort to have INSLAW + declared insolvent. Instead, the courts awarded INSLAW $6.8 million in + damages. + + Within eight days of Riconoscuito's declaration he was arrested and + held without bail. Drug Enforcement Agency agents made the arrest. On + Wednesday a Federal Grand Jury indicted Riconoscuito on one count of + distribution of methanphetamines. He is still being held without bail. + Whether or not the U.S. Department of Justice retaliated against + Riconoscuito's willingness to testify before the U.S. House Judiciary + Committee, the House investigators are questioning Riconoscuito at + Kitsap County Correctional Center. One member of the investigation + stated that the House Committee is deeply concerned with the timing of + Riconoscuito's arrest, particularly after he signed an affidavit + stating he was threatened with arrest if he did testify. + + The Judiciary Committee is investigating allegations that top Justice + Department officials under former Attorney General Edwin Meese engaged + in a criminal conspiracy to steal software developed by INSLAW and then + furnished it to other countries including, Iraq, Libya, South Korea, + Israel and Canada. + + Congressman Jack Brooks, chairman of the Committee, has accused the + Justice Department of a cover-up by withholding more than 200 documents + in the INSLAW case. A U.S. Bankruptcy judge ruled in 1987 that + officials of the Justice Department stole the sensitive computer + software--used to track criminals and also military movements--"through + fraud, trickery and deceit." The ruling was later affirmed by another + federal Judge. + + Riconoscuito has a previous drug conviction for manufacturing PCP + aboard a Seattle houseboat 18 years ago. Riconoscuito's declaration + states that he was hired to modify INSLAW's PROMIS software so that it + could be sold to Canada and other customers. During the time of + modification, Riconoscuito was working on a joint venture with a + private security firm and the Cabazon Indians in Indio, California. The + joint venture also included military equipment and biological and + chemical warfare weapons for use and/or sale in Central America and the + Middle East. + + One Indian and two companions who were opposed to these operations + and who alleged that tribal money was being filtered into foreign + banks, were found slain execution style in Ranch Mirage. No one has + been arrested in the case. The sister of one of the slain men reported + the Indian ties with the Iran-Contra scandal and the software + modification. That report was delivered to a New York television studio + seven years ago. She is now preparing all of it in declaration form and + supplying it to the U.S. House Judiciary Committee investigation. + + In other related matters, another affidavit was filed in the INSLAW + case which reports that a man bought U.S. Justice Department computers + and court computers for salvage and found the pirated PROMIS software + program in the surplus computer. The General Accounting Office has + expressed grave concern over the salvaged computers, noting that the + U.S. Justice Department has sold surplus computers without first + erasing sensitive information from the memory banks. "The error may + have put some informants, witnesses and undercover agents in a `life- + and-death' situation," the GAO states. The data could include the names + of government informants, federally protected witnesses and undercover + agents, grand jury proceedings, sealed indictments, confidential FBI + investigations and personal data about Justice Department employees. + These computers were sold by the Justice Department for as little as + $45. The man in Lexington, Kentucky, who found the pirated PROMIS + software in the U.S. Justice Department surplus computer also found + sealed grand jury indictments. + + Charles Hayes was the man who bought the equipment in July 1990 for + $45. He has now been sued by the U.S. Justice Department for the return + of the computers, stating that the memory bank had not been erased. The + U.S. Justice Department did not go after Hayes until after he signed an + affidavit about the protected PROMIS software. It is not certain + whether the U.S. Justice Department wants the sensitive material back + or they want the computers to block them from being used as evidence + against them in the INSLAW case. Hayes did return the equipment. This + was not an isolated case. Another U.S. Attorney Office notified federal + agents that once again sensitive data that could potentially identify + agents and witnesses may have been lost. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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While the U.S. House Judiciary Committee is investigating + the theft of INSLAW's PROMIS software by the U.S. Justice Department, + the Canadian Parliament will commence its own investigation. + + Two agencies of the Canadian Government, the Royal Canadian Mounted + Police (RCMP) and the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service + (CSIS)--equivalent to the CIA--are using the pirated PROMIS software, + allegedly supplied to them by Dr. Earl Brian, a close associate and + financial partner of former U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese and a + former California cabinet officer under then Governor Ronald Reagan. + + A Federal Bankruptcy judge--who was not re-appointed to the bench + after his ruling--said the U.S. Justice Department used trickery, fraud + and deception in "stealing" the PROMIS software. The sophisticated + software is used for tracking criminal and military activities. It was + illegally sold to South Korea, Iraq, Israel, Canada and Libya by the + United States. + + According to an affidavit, the software was converted in a joint + venture between Wackenhut Corporation of Coral Gables, Florida, and the + Cabazon Band of Indians of Indio--an independent nation. The + declaration by Michael J. Riconoscuito alleges that Dr. Brian was + deeply involved in the joint venture. One Indian and two of his + companions who objected to the joint venture--which also dealt with + military weapons, biological and chemical warfare--were found murdered + in execution style. That execution was reported on 20/20 by Barbara + Walters and the CIA was named as the prime suspect in the case. The + software was specifically modified for the Canadian government. + + Riconoscuito stated in an affidavit he was warned by officials of the + U.S. Justice Department that if he cooperated with the U.S.House + Judiciary Committee he would be arrested. Eight days after he signed + the affidavit he was arrested by more than a dozen Drug Enforcement + Agency officers near Tacoma, Washington. He was held without bail for + several days and then charged with a single drug count. Though arrested + in the State of Washington, he was held without bail awaiting a federal + marshal to pick him up. + + He, along with several others, have stated in an affidavit to the + court and to the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, that the PROMIS + software was modified and sold to several countries, including Canada. + + Late last week, Members of Parliament demanded that the Solicitor + General of Canada, Pierre Cadieux, appear before a parliamentary + committee to answer charges the RCMP and CSIS are using stolen computer + software. Cadieux's ministry is responsible for the RCMP and CSIS. + + Though both the RCMP and the CSIS originally denied they are using + PROMIS, court documents show a Canadian communications department + official admitted last year that the RCMP was using PROMIS, although + INSLAW never authorized its Canadian sale. + + "Did CSIS and the RCMP use PROMIS software or modifications of it? If + so, what were the circumstances of the acquisition? Was the software + stolen, and if so, was the Canadian Government aware of it?" These are + the questions Parliament wants to ask Cadieux. The Canadian Solicitor + has indicated that the Government is already launching its own + investigation into the pirated software scandal. Canadian officials are + indicating that the pirated software sales may have helped to illegally + fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Contra funding and supplies was one of + the most important aspects of the Cabazon-Wackenhut joint venture. + Riconoscuito has had inside connections with the CIA and U.S. Justice + Department and some testimony put forward states that he helped to + launder $40 million for the Bush-Quayle campaign--that report has not + been substantiated by any more than one government source. + + Brian is the owner of a holding company which has interests in the + Financial News Network, United Press International and Hadron, Inc. + Hadron was the company that was unsuccessful in buying out INSLAW, + Affidavits on file with the court allege that Hadron, through Reagan + cronies, attempted to force INSLAW out of business after it was awarded + a $10 million contract by the U.S. Justice Department. + + The scandal involves Meese, Brian, former National Security Advisor + Robert McFarland, several senior staff members at the U.S. Justice + Department, and even federal judges. The "Vancouver Sun," the leading + newspaper in Western Canada, states, "The pirated software battle + already has been compared to Watergate and the Iran-Contra scandal." + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2775.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2775.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7eca85a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2775.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,154 @@ +SUBJECT: FEDERAL CORRUPTION FILE: UFO2775 + + + +PART 8 + + + + Filename: Harry8.Art + Type : Article + Author : Harry Martin + Date : 04/16/91 + Desc : Federal Corruption Series Part VIII + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + MURDER OF THREE INDIANS MAY BE PART OF HOUSE PROBE ON INSLAW CASE + By Harry V. Martin + Eighth in a NEW SERIES + (c) Copyright Napa Sentinel, 1991 + April 16, 1991 + Reprinted with permission of the Napa Sentinel + + + A security guard, who linked the CIA with the execution-style murder + of one Indian and two other men who objected to the tribe's + manufacturing of weapons, chemical and biological warfare devices and + the conversion of INSLAW''s sensitive software, fled to Sonoma and Lake + counties right after the murders. The security guard's secret hiding + places were sanctioned by the Riverside County District Attorney's + Office and the state Department of Justice. + + The security guard testified in a video-taped interview about the + murders and named names. The video-taping was taken by the Riverside + County District Attorney's Office after a Cabazon Indian and his two + companions were found slain. The security guard's testimony to the DA's + Office revealed that he was the bag man who carried $10,000 from the + Indian Reservation in Indio to the top of an aerial tram in Palm + Springs. The $10,000 was "hit" money. According to the testimony, + several ex-Green Berets, then employed as firemen in the City of + Chicago, executed the three Indians. + + Who paid for the executions? According to the testimony, a man who + was once closely associated with Jimmy Hoffa and who then operated the + Bingo Parlor on the Indian Reservation, provided the $10,000 for the + killing. The three slain men had raised serious objections to the + Wackenhut-Cabazon joint venture. Wackenhut was involved as agents for + the CIA to provide arms to the Contras and also to convert INSLAW's + stolen PROMIS software for use by the Canadian Government. The Canadian + Government has ordered an investigation into the pirated software + scandal and the U.S. House Judiciary Committee is conducting its own + investigation in what has been described as the U.S. Department of + Justice's "trickery, deceit and theft" of the software. The U.S. + Government has been connected with the illegal sale of the sensitive + software to South Korea, Libya, Iraq, Israel and Canada, as well as + being pirated by a number of U.S. agencies, including the CIA, National + Security Agency and other military units. The software is also in use + by the FBI. Only the U.S. Justice Department was licensed to use the + software, which tracks criminals and can be used for military tracking, + as well. INSLAW was awarded $6.8 million by two federal courts against + the U.S. Justice Department. + + The scandal has deepened considerably, especially since the testimony + of Michael J. Riconoscuito, who worked closely with the Wackenhut + company, and Dr. Earl Brian--a close aid and financial business + associate of former U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese and former + California Cabinet official in the Ronald Reagan governorship. The + scandal has caught several members of the U.S. Justice Department, the + National Security Council, the federal bankruptcy court, and other + government officials in a vice. Newspapers from Canada and the United + States rate the INSLAW case equal to the Iran-Contra scandal and + Watergate. + + Riconoscuito provided an affidavit which compromised the U.S. Justice + Department and covert CIA operations. The affidavit stated that + Riconoscuito was warned by U.S. Justice Department officials that if he + cooperated with the House Judiciary investigation of the INSLAW case, + he would be arrested. Within eight days of signing the affidavit, + Riconoscuito was arrested in the State of Washington and held without + bail. He was later charged with one count of distribution of + methanphetamines--a crime that usually has a low bail. Riconoscuito was + being held for U.S. Marshals. Investigators from the House Judiciary + Committee interviewed Riconoscuito in a Tacoma jail last week. + + Riconoscuito's mention of the Wackenhut-Cabazon joint venture, + sparked more controversy. The House Judiciary Committee is now also + reviewing information on the Indian murders. + + The "Sentinel" was able to obtain an exclusive interview with people + closely associated with the Cabazon nation and the murders. The + security guard, who was the bag man, had just left the military service + as an airborne ranger working on covert assignments. He was hired as a + security guard for the Cabazon nation. Another man, a licensed + investigator, was hired to question the security guard about what he + knew. It was learned that a key Indian of the tribe was making strong + objections to the laundering of money from the Bingo Parlor. The main + antagonist was Fred Alvarez. + + The security guard was given $10,000 to give to a hit man in Palm + Springs. He has subsequently video-taped his confession to the + Riverside County District Attorney's office. Alvarez, in an exclusive + interview with the "Desert Sun," complained about the U.S. Government's + abuses of the Indian nation. He told the "Sun" that people were going + to kill him. Alvarez was murdered in execution style after the + interview. + + The Riverside District Attorney's Office and the California + Department of Justice commenced their separate investigations of the + murders. A report was issued by the state linking the people behind the + Cabazons with direct links to organized crime--a chief Mafia Family, + the Gambino Family--and the CIA. The Cabazon reservation, however, is + an independent nation. In video interviews, the security guard told how + Wackenhut demonstrated new weapons with both the FBI and the CIA + present. He also testified to the presence at these demonstrations of + Dr. Earl Brian. + + The man who paid the security guard $10,000 was later convicted of + attempted murder after five more Indians were shot to death. He was + linked by law enforcement officials to organized crime and CIA covert + operations. + + The security guard testified that the Indio reservation was + convenient for the U.S. Government because it was an independent nation + and because it was close to the Mexican border, where arms were shipped + enroute to the Contras. The security guard's testimony was so + sensitive, that late one night the Riverside County District Attorney's + Office arranged for an armed escort to get him off the reservation. He + went to Sonoma and Lake counties, and then back to Southern California + to work with the Department of Justice. He fled to New Mexico and now + has left the country. He may return to testify before the House + Judiciary Committee, though he is in fear of his life right now. + + Like in the INSLAW case, those principles involved have fallen like + flies. The first federal judge to rule in INSLAW's favor against the + U.S. Justice Department was not re-appointed to another 14-year term. + Many members of the U.S. Justice Department quit or were fired in + direct relationship to this case. The chief investigator for the + Riverside County District Attorney's Office was later taken off the + case and transferred to the Juvenile Division and then given early + retirement. Shortly after his retirement, the DA investigator states + that he was pulled off the road one day by a CIA agent and told to + forget all about the "desert" if he wanted to enjoy his retirement. + + The man who gave the money to the security guard for the murder, was + also the same man who is reported to have been the trigger man in Chile + in 1971--the target: President Salvador Allende. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Riconoscuito + revealed in his affidavit that the CIA, U.S. Justice Department and the + FBI all had links to the Cabazon Indians and to John Phillip Nichols + and that the Indian reservation in Indio, California, was linked + directly to the Contras. Those links resulted in the death of many + people. + + Riconoscuito also warned in his affidavit that he was going to be + arrested if he cooperated with a U.S. Congressional probe of the + Justice Department involving the pirated software. Within eight days of + signing the affidavit, like clock work, Riconoscuito was arrested and + held without bail for the U.S. Marshal. But not to be thwarted, + investigators from the Congressional Judiciary Committee met and + interviewed Riconoscuito. + + Riconoscuito's statements, however, have sparked a new inquiry into + the entire Wackenhut-Cabazon Indian joint venture and additional + coverups by the U.S. Government over the stolen software, money + laundering, Mafia ties and illegal shipments to the Contras. It was the + U.S. Justice Department that warned Riconocuito not to speak out. His + statements have also launched an investigation into the pirated + software by the Canadian Government, as well. + + One Indian and two companions who protested against the manufacturing + of military equipment--including chemical and biological warfare--the + alteration of the PROMIS software, and shipments to the Contras, were + murdered execution style. The man who was used to transport the blood + money from CIA operatives and the killers, has fled the country, but + not before providing video taped testimony on the murders. + + Implicated in the entire Wackenhut-Cabazon Justice Department affair, + was a man called John Phillip Nichols. Nichols took over the Bingo Hall + and later the reservation. The Cabazon Indians are an independent + nation. + + Nichols, who has been linked to Jimmy Hoffa and assassination + attempts of Fidel Castro and Salvador Allende, has strong Mafia ties. + He has been convicted of soliciting murder. + + Linda Streeter, the sister of Alfred Alvarez, the slain Indian, has + asked the California Department of Justice to assign a special + prosecution unit to investigate the case. The information on the + murders has been forwarded to the Congressional Judiciary Committee now + probing the U.S. Justice Department. + + The Riverside County Grand Jury and the Riverside County District + Attorney's Office have extensive testimony on the murders. + + Even 20/20 has done a segment on the Indian involvement and the + murders. Nichols is the one who persuaded the U.S. Government to + provide the Cabazon Indians with military and security equipment. + + Nichols' ties are oulined on page 304 of "Inside Job--the Looting of + America's Savings and Loans" by Stephen Pizzo, Mary Fricker and Paul + Muolo. + + "At San Marino Savings in Southern California we heard about a major + borrower, G. Wayne Reeder (who also attempted a couple of failed + ventures with Herman Beebee), meeting in late 1981 at an arms + demonstration with Raul Arana and Eden Pastora, Contra leaders who were + considering buying military equipment from Reeder's Indian bingo-parlor + partner, Dr. John Nichols. Among the equipment were night-vision + goggles manufactured by Litton Industries and a light machine gun. + Nichols, according to former Reeder employees and published accounts, + had a plan in the early 1980's to build a munitions plant on the + Cabazon Indian reservation near Palm Springs in partnership with + Wackenhut, a Florida security firm. The plan fell through. Nichols was + a self-described CIA veteran of assassination attempts against Castro + in Cuba and Allende in Chile. Authorities said he was a business + associate of members of the Los Angeles Mafia. He was later convicted + in an abortive murder-for- hire scheme and sentenced." + + The intertwining mess of the U.S. Justice Department, FBI, CIA, + former Attorney General Edwin Meese, Dr. Earl Brian, a former Reagan + California Cabinet member, and the Federal Bankruptcy Courts + demonstrates a broad stroke of corruption throughout the higher + echelons of government. Today, a Congressional Committee is attempting + to sort everything out--but a Senate Committee once tried the same + thing and was totally thwarted when the U.S. Justice Department refused + to cooperate. + + We have, in the past year, examined the CIA-Contras-Nazi-Banking + connections, the CIA-Justice Department-Bankruptcy Court connections, + and the CIA-Mafia-Drug connections. It is a never ending story. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2777.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2777.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..08358b4f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2777.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,204 @@ +SUBJECT: SOVIET UFO SECRETS FILE: UFO2777 + + + + + +Soviet UFO Secrets +__________________ + +The Summer 1994 issue of Flying Saucer Review contains an article entitled +"Soviet UFO Secrets", by Bryan Gresh. The article also appeared in the MUFON +UFO Journal for October 1993. + +Brian Gresh is stated as being the Senior Vice-President of Altamira +Communications Group and an associate of George Knapp, described as a +renowned UFO researcher. I am personally familiar with Knapp's work and as +far as I am aware he is highly regarded. + +The article details information obtained by both men during a 10 day visit +to Russia in March 1993. + +The entire article is too lengthy to reproduce, however, the following +extracts contain the main substance of the article: + +[START] + +The trip to Russia took seven months to set up and was arranged by our man in +Moscow, Nikolai Kapranov. Kapranov is a Russian physicist who served as +Security Advisor to the Soviet Parliament. + +Our goal was to talk, face to face, with those who were in the know... + +One of the bigger gems was Boris Sokolov, a retired Russian colonel from a +distinguished military family. Sokolov ran an unprecedented study, the likes +of which, he is undoubtedly correct in saying, will never be repeated. "For +10 years," Sokolov says, "the entire Soviet Union became one gigantic UFO +listening post." The year was 1980. + +"We had 40 cases where our pilots encountered UFOs," said Sokolov. +"Initially, they were commanded to chase, then shoot, the UFO. But when our +pilots would engage, the UFO would speed up. The pilot would give chase, +lose control and crash." That happened three times. Twice, the pilots died. +"After that," Sokolov said, "the pilots received another order: When they +see a UFO they should change course - and get out." + +With the exception of the original "engage" order, Sokolov says the Soviets +adapted a passive observation stance - if they saw a UFO, fine. The Soviet +attitude was unlike the Americans, Sokolov says, who had set up some 30 +radar stations to track UFOs. + +October 5, 1983 is a date Sokolov will long remember. He received an order +from his commander to leave immediately for an ICBM base in the Ukraine. The +reason for the urgency? A report from the base commander to the Chief of the +General Staff that the day before, from 4 until 8 that evening, a UFO had +been observed near the base. During that time, the lights had lit up on the +base control panel - the launch codes for the ICBMs had, mysteriously, been +enabled. + +"They received an order to prepare the launch of the ICBMs," said Sokolov. +"The chief of the General Staff wasted no time in sending in our UFO +experts." + +Fortunately, no missiles were launched. + + +Rimili Avramenko's world is somewhat unique. He is one of the chief +scientists working on Russia's version of SDI. Avramenko has been entrusted +with the highest possible clearances. + +We began our interview of this highly-regarded scientist with what we +thought would be a good ice-breaker: is the UFO phenomenon for real? The +question was quickly brushed aside, in no uncertain terms. + +"My colleagues and I don't even think that's a question!" he bellowed. "Of +course they are real!" + +The exchange of information between aliens and humans, the scientist claims, +has led to the development of what he referred to as the "weapon of the +aliens," the plasma beam. The space age weaponry was incorporated into the +Soviet version of SDI. Dr. Avramenko also confirmed for us that the Russians +knew UFOs were from somewhere else as early as 1959. The Americans knew that +too, he said, because both sides had the same type of satellite defense +warning systems. Dr. Avramenko shared with us a couple of other startling +pronouncements: during the Vietnam War, he said, a massive UFO flew over +Hanoi. Although every major weapon in that city had its sights set on the +craft, it didn't budge. Dr. Avramenko also slipped up and told us the only +craft which can approach the speed of UFOs is the American "Aurora" which is +being flown in Nevada. When the look of amazement registered on our faces, +Avramenko quickly back-tracked and said his information was based solely on +articles in the popular press. + + +Another of our meetings put us across the table from the Ministry of +Defense official who is in charge of the current study. By agreement, we are +not yet able to make his name public, but we can give the name of the study, +"Thread-3." One illuminating section of those papers contains details of UFO +sightings by Soviet cosmonauts. Unlike American astronauts' reluctance to +talk about the subject, Soviet references to UFOs were reported from the +very beginning, with Yuri Gagarin himself. In the documents, Gagarin is +quoted as saying UFOs are real, they fly at incredible speeds and that he +would tell more about what he had seen in orbit - provided he be given +permission to do so. The documents also provide information on American +space encounters, including several references to things seen on the Moon by +our astronauts, and how that information was removed from NASA's public +files. + + +What do the Russians know about the most celebrated of all UFO crashes, the +July, 1947 report of a crashed disc outside Roswell, New Mexico? Our next +interview made it seem apparent that, even in the 40s, the Russians weren't +buying the weather balloon explanation of Roswell being proffered to the +American people at the time by the US military. The interview was with +Valeriy Burdakov, a man who, to my knowledge, has never granted an interview +to a Western journalist. In the 1950s, Burdakov was a scientist at the +prestigious Moscow Aviation Institute, birthplace of the Soviet space +program. Burdakov's interest in UFOs led to lectures on the subject, +lectures which came to the attention of Sergei Korolyov, the dean of Soviet +rocketry and the founder of the Russian space program. But Korolyov did not +admonish the younger Burdakov; instead he confided in him. + +As the now-60-something Burdakov relates, Joseph Stalin invited Korolyov to +a meeting in 1948. The dictator brought Korolyov to a room where, spread out +on a table, were piles of material and information collected during a top +secret study. Some of the information was gleaned from reports of Soviet +operatives in place in New Mexico at the time of the alleged crash. Stalin +was anxious to know, what did Korolyov make of this reported crash of a UFO +near Roswell? + +"Korolyov told Stalin the phenomenon was real," said Burdakov. "He told him +the UFOs were not dangerous to our country, but they were not manufactured +in the United States, or any other country. Stalin thanked him and told him +his opinion was shared by a number of other specialists." + +Burdakov says he has no doubts about the extent of the American government's +involvement in the UFO phenomenon. Several branches of the American +military, he says, are involved in active research and study. "We know that +the United States Air Force possesses plenty of material," says Burdakov. +"The U.S. Navy has a big amount of material as well. We know that special +orders have been given to keep all materials secret. When curious people ask +for the materials they are told they're not there, that they've been +destroyed." + + +Ron Varlamov of the Moscow Technology Institute believes evidence abounds. +We met with Dr. Varlamov at his small apartment outside Moscow for an in- +depth interview. Dr Varlamov has travelled to a number of reported UFO +landing sites in Russia, including 10 in the direct vicinity of Moscow, to +conduct a variety of tests on physical and chemical changes in the soil and +the environment. Among his voluminous findings; identical quartz timepieces, +one placed inside a landing site, the other just outside, record time at two +different speeds. The quartz timepiece inside the landing circle speeds up. +Dr Varlamov has also discovered that inside the reported landing site +circles the land is all but sterile, yielding just a few individual samples +of single-celled animals per cubic centimeter of soil. Just outside the +circles, tens of thousands of single cell animals flourish in every cubic +centimeter. + +Amongst his other fascinating findings: evidence of what is knows as "angel +hair", a type of by-product of UFO exhaust. Varlamov has obtained a sample +to analyze the content. Dr. Varlamov also claims at least six attempts have +been made to make pre-arranged contact with alien intelligence. Some of +these contacts, he claims, were successful. + +Varlamov's findings are supported by a government biologist and close +colleague. His name is Yuri Simakov. + +Another of Dr Simakov's discoveries comes from two reported landing sites +in Siberia. Simakov found microscopic worms in the soil. Nothing too unusual +there, except these worms are particular to Mexico, and don't occur +naturally anywhere in the former Soviet Union. + +[END] + + +There are obviously many fundamental repercussions arising from the content +of this article. If we take it at face value, then: + +1. Both the former Soviet Union and the American governments (and presumably + others) have been aware of the existence of extra-terrestrial life for + many years and have orchestrated a cynical cover-up. + +2. Contact has been established with extra-terrestrial life forms. + +3. Advanced technology has been obtained from these life forms. + +4. They have the ability to engage ICBM's and possibly other nuclear weapons + systems. + +5. U.S. astronauts did encounter extra-terrestrial craft and there was a + significant sighting made on the moon, all of which have again been + cynically covered-up. + +6. The U.S. Air Force and Navy do possess "material" from extra-terrestrial + craft. + +7. Extra-terrestrial life forms have the ability to "distort" time, as we + know it. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2778.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2778.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c058ac6a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2778.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +SUBJECT: SUPPORT PROGRAM FOR ABDUCTEE'S FILE: UFO2778 + + + + + + + By: Sandy Barbre + To: All + Re: support program + St: + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Dr. Mundy sent me the following: + + Support Program for Abductee's Contact Efforts (SPACE) + + If you are a UFO abductee, you are invited to join S.P.A.C.E. (the + Support Program for Abductee's and Contactee's Efforts). + + The support group, founded by abductees themselves, is being formed in + the New York City metropolitan area to give us a chance to talk openly, + to explore our experiences on the human-alien frontier and to interface + with it. + + The formation of this interactive and proactive group would try to + provide understanding, caring support, meaningful feedback and + professional resources to abductees who have been traumatized by their + experiences and to encourage them toward positive, transformative, + empowerment by devleoping new life skills, overcoming fears and through + interaction with aliens in a middle ground situation. + + Meetings will be held in private places without public participation + and notice to protect individuals. For information, please call (718) + 748-8913. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2779.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2779.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f10ba84a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2779.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +SUBJECT: SPACE PROBE FILE: UFO2779 + + + + + + Matched keyword: SPACE... + + =START= + + XMT: 20:02 Tue Apr 17 + EXP: 20:00 Tue Apr 24 + + SPACE PROBE PRODUCES "DISTURBING" LACK OF EVIDENCE + + WASHINGTON (APRIL 17) UPI - A space probe exploring the evolution of the + universe has produced a "disturbing" lack of evidence to explain the + uneven distribution of galaxies through the cosmos, scientists said + Tuesday. + + While preliminary data from the Cosmic Background Explorer, known as + COBE, continues to support the "big bang" theory of the universe's + creation, the information gathered so far has failed to explain its + current "lumpy" formation. + + "The smoothness is disturbing us a lot. At this point we're beginning to + expect little warts and dimples to appear," said David Wilkinson, a + professor of physics at Princeton University. + + Wilkinson spoke at a news conference at an American Institute of Physics + meeting about the latest results from COBE, an ultra sensitive satellite + launched in November 1989 on a two-year mission. + + The $160 million orbiting space probe was designed to answer fundamental + questions about the formation and evolution of the universe by collecting + data about faint radiation left over from the big bang explosion. + + Scientists theorize the universe exploded into existence 15 billion years + ago in a hot, dense fireball that instantly began expanding in all + directions. + + During the news conference, scientists from NASA's Goddard Space Flight + Center in Greenbelt, Md., and the University of California at Berkeley + said the data collected so far by COBE appears consistent with those + theories. + + "It's astonishingly consistent with the big bang theory," Wilkinson said. + + The NASA scientists also released a new color photograph of the Earth's + home galaxy, the Milky Way, based on a composite of data collected by + COBE. + + "This thing that he gave you is spectacular. I mean that's wonderful," + said Wilkinson of the image. "My God, it's as though you were in + Andromeda taking a picture of our galaxy." + + But COBE has failed to find any traces of significant energy release + after the first huge explosion. That is inconsistent with the current + "lumpy" state of the universe, with its massive clusters of galaxies and + giant dark voids. + + The researchers stressed, however, they have barely begun to sift through + the huge amount of data the satellite is collecting. Years of data + collection and analysis will follow and is expected to yield + revolutionary findings, they said. + + "One year or two years from now, if those pictures are still looking + smooth at the accuracies we'll have then, then there's real trouble. Then + there's real big trouble," said Wilkinson. + + =END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2780.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2780.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..49c0b268 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2780.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +SUBJECT: SPACE ANIMAL THEORY FILE: UFO2780 + + + + + + From UFOs and the Limits of Science by Ronald D. Story c.1981 + + Reproduced for educational purposes only. + + Space Animal Theory + + The Space Animal Theiry was first brought to public attention, + curiously enough, by the U.S. Air Force during its Project Sign + activity in the late 1940s. The Project "Saucer" (Sign was then still a + classified code name) press release of April 27, 1949, admitted that + the idea had been "remotely considered" and that many UFOs "acted more + like animals than anything else." The Air Force concluded that few such + reports were reliable. The concept was also contained in the final + Project Sign Technical Report of February 1949 (declassified in 1961). + + Trevor James Constable (writing under the pen name of Trevor James) + advocated a space animal explanation for UFOs in 1958, and no other + that Kenneth Arnold, the man whose sighting opened the UFO era and who + was responsible for coining the label "flying saucer," concluded the + UFOs "...are groups and masses of living organisms that are as much a + part of our atmosphere and space as the life we find in the oceans." + + Naturalist Ivan T. Sanderson again addressed the question, and many + others, in 1967, concluding that there was "...nothing illogical, + irrational, or even improbable about it. In fact, it is so probable + that it must be given first rank in consideration of the question, + 'What could UAO's [unexplained aeiral objects] be?'" That same year, + Vincent H. Gaddis addressed the topic, attributing the original idea to + a John P. Bessor, who had sent it to the Air Force the month following + Arnold's classic 1947 sighting. Gaddis discussed the writings on the + subject by Austrian Countess Zoe Wassilko-Serecki and John Cage, a New + Jersey inventor, and concluded that "...the time will come when one or + more of these entities will be caught, weighed, measured, and + exhibited." + + Trevor James Constable again wrote about space animals in the 1970s, + this time in more detail. He postulated that the UFO space animals + "...are amoebalike life-forms existing in the plasma state. They are + not solid, liquid, or gas. Rather, they exist in the fourth state of + matter - plasma - as living heat substance at the upper border of + physical nature." He also believed that they are of low intelligence + and, because they remain in the infrared part of the electromagnetic + spectrum, usually invisible. he concluded that they had "...deeply + confused UFO research." + + Although life may be found in the most unlikely places and under the + harshest of conditions on the surface of the planet, it is doubtful + that biological forms could evolve in space or even in the upper + regions of the atmosphere, where exposure to cosmic rays and other + radiations, such as those originating from solar flares, would be + maximized. The absence of oxygen for carbon-based life would also rule + out biological space animals, and the possibility of life existing in a + plasma state is, at best, speculative. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2781.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2781.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..34ba79a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2781.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +SUBJECT: LIFE OF A UFO RESEARCHER FILE: UFO2781 + + + + + + UFO UPDATE: + + UFO researchers say their work involves endless stress + and deprives their families of time, energy and love. + + + To the typical UFO buff, the daily life of the UFO researcher seems + romantic indeed. According to the common perception, this lucky + individual spends days tracking down spectacular sightings and nights + hypnotically probing the psyches of alleged UFO abductees. When the + researcher comes up for air, moreover, he tweaks the nose of + established science and jousts with the government for classified proof + of UFOs. What a life! + + But the UFOlogists themselves say their profession is costly and + stressful, exacting an enormous toll on earning capacity and family + life. The pain and pressure of the work, they say, is rarely mentioned + on the talk show circuit or in UFO magazines. Stressful career + problems, for instance, have plagued investigator Richard Hall, who + worked with the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena + during the Sixties and Seventies and is now on the board of the Fund + for UFO Research. Says Hall, "UFOs on my resume interfered with me + getting straight jobs for years." + + UFOlogist David Jacobs, meanwhile, says his work takes so much time + it seems "like a bottomless pit." As an abduction expert and a + historian at Temple University in Philadelphia, he can't find enough + hours in the day for either activity. When push came to shove, Jacobs + says, he chose to study abductions. But a senior member of his + department at Temple informed him that he would have to go back to + regular historical scholarship if he "hoped to advance in his career." + His abduction work has also strained his family life, though he feels + guilty when he takes a break. + + Toronto psychotherapist David Gotlib reports similar strains. Gotlib + spends hours providing therapy for abductees and also produces a + newsletter for abduction researchers. Between the newsletter and UFO + conferences, Gotlib says, he is "out thousands of dollars worth of + time." He deals with the pressure by reassessing his commitment to + UFOlogy every six months. "I'll close down the newsletter," Goblib + says, "when I get a relationship or get married." + + Larry Bryant, head of the Washington, DC, office of Citizens Against + UFO Secrecy, says he has literally given up on a social life for the + sake of UFOs. Bryant, a Pentagon employee by day, comes home to a world + of unanswered phone messages and UFO correspondence. "It's a full-time + part-time job," he says. Bryant says he recently received a poor job + rating at the Pentagon because of his UFO work. The rating was improved + only after he paid a lawyer thousands of dollars and filed a lawsuit. + + Finally, artist and abduction expert Budd Hopkins claims the research + has deprived his family of "time, energy and love." But even more + disturbing, he says, is a frightening feeling he calls "terminal + impotence." This oppressive sensation sets in, he notes, "because there + is no way to stop the abductions or ultimately help the abductees." + + Given these drawbacks, why do the researchers persist? David Jacobs + explains. The work, he insists, is critical because "the abduction + phenomenon is the most important thing that has ever occurred." + + + --PAUL McCARTHY + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2782.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2782.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b9021a0f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2782.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +SUBJECT: THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT FILE: UFO2782 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ------------------------------------------ + The BIG Announcement: Part 1 + ------------------------------ + + + [Contributed by Bruce Widaman, of the UFO Study Group of Greater St. + Louis, and State Director - Missouri MUFON] + + I attended a lecture at the Holiday Inn in Collinsville, IL on + 12/20/91 given by Bill Knell, a UFO investigator, that was to deal with + "The UFO Coverup". Having never met Mr. Knell before, I didn't know + exactly what to expect. I must admit though, after hearing him on the + radio prior to the meeting, I was braced for "the big announcement." + + His presentation was very good. I personally have not been exposed + to most of mr. knell's material. He was well received by the sixty or + so people in attendance. But, unfortunately, the big announcement is + still somewhere out there in the future. + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ------------------------------------------ + The BIG Announcement: Part 2 + ------------------------------ + + [Contributed by Sheryl Jacobs of the UFO Study Group of Greater St. + Louis] + + The following press release announced a special episode of "Unsolved + Mysteries" that was due to air last month. Even though the regularly + scheduled program (Wednesday, 12/25/91) included a segment on the + Bentwaters Air Base incident, the special government episode has not + been aired to date. + + The Bentwaters story, although a repeat, did include some additional + details that hadn't been presented originally. + + "Unsolved Mysteries" must be commended for presenting cases from a + balanced and objective position. The Belgium story done in November + was done in a far from even neutral manner; instead, it was done in a + very positive and professional way with striking special effects. The + high profile of the show, together with the regularity in which UFO + subjects are presented, will help the masses cope should the "big one" + ever come along. + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ------------------------------------------ + The BIG Announcement: part 3 + ------------------------------ + + [Contributed by the UFO STUDY GROUP of Greater St. Louis] + + [What follows is the press release] + + For Immediate PRESS RELEASE + ----------------------------- + + SUBJECT: A SURPRISE U.S. GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCEMENT CONCERNING THE + REALITY OF THE U.F.O. (Unidentified Flying Objects) + PHENOMENON + + and + + AN UNEXPLAINED U.F.O. - MILITARY ENCOUNTER ON EARLY + WEDNESDAY, 12/11/91 IN THE MIDEAST, MIDATLANTIC AREAS + + DATE: 12/12/91 + + FROM: BILL KNELL, U.F.O. Investigator/Researcher speaking on behalf + of ISLAND SKYWATCH, 164-22 77TH ROAD, FLUSHING, NEW YORK 11365 + 718-591-1854. (A NY-based, non-profit organization dedicated + to the scientific and objective study of the U.F.O. + Phenonenon) + + The United States government plans to make a surprise announcement + revealing that U.F.O.s are real, intelligently-controlled aircraft of + unknown origin sometime within the next two weeks. This announcement + will coincide with a special, unscheduled episode of the nbc network + television program "unsolved mysteries' on sunday, december 22, 1991. + Neither the content, nor the format of this announcement is known at + this time. + + This exclusive information was revealed to veteran U.F.O. investigator + Bill Knell during the past 48 hours by two reliable sources. The first + is Dr. Robert Carr, a professor at the university of South Florida, + State of Florida, U.S.A. and the second is a person who works for TRW, a + company which has examined captured or crashed UFOs for the government + at trw facilities according to this source and one former employee of + that company. Both sources say they have participated in the filming of + the special "unsolved mysteries" episode and have been told by unamed + government contacts that the forthcoming announcement concerning UFOs + will be made on the same date as the airing of the tv episode. The + person, agency or format of the announcement and concerning it is + unknown at this time. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2783.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2783.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e0c509d8 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2783.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,184 @@ +SUBJECT: THEATER OF THE LONG WINDED FILE: UFO2783 + + + + + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + Taken from consecutive messages in the Human Dimension Echo + By Dan Brown - January 1992 + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + Yes! It's time for another installment of... + + "Theater of the Long Winded" + + Brought to you tonight by the Society for Unintended Studies + + + In today's episode Uncle Dan, that gruff but lovable moderator of the + Human Dimensions echo, gets in over his head and, as usual, delivers + one of his typically off centered, but thoroughly strange editorials... + + And now, with the wave of a hand, the curtain rises, the house lights + dim, and a small but steady spotlight finds its way to the podium where + our evenings lector stands ill at ease, but with enough enthusiasm to + keep from running off as he sees the audience, tomatoes in hand, poised + and ready as kittens on newly found mice. + + Nevertheless, he proceeds. . . + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Disclaimer: Since this is my personal theory, and only an editorial, I + do not plan to include a bibliography, or overly long drawn + out exemplary structures in genetic coding, RNA/DNA, or the + structures of the neural pathways dealing specifically with + genetic communication. I don't think my typing fingers + could take that much abuse, and proving natural selection + is not my specific point in writing this editorial. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + In the past years, through my observations and moderate studies into + the genetic structure of homo-sapien, it has come to be my belief that + at this point in time, we are beginning to visibly experience an + emergence of something exceptionally rare. Our species, in my belief, + is moving into a state where the genetic factors that control and route + our neural-communicative structures are now reaching a point in their + mutations wherein they are allowing dormant facilities to become viable + and active. + + This is not something that has only recently happened, but has been + underway for countless millenia, and has occurred several times in the + past to the human species as a whole since the beginning of our genus. + This process of natural selection has, by nature, always been one of + genetic origin and has brought us to our present state, and will take + us further, as I believe it is doing now. + + With the emergence of the humankind, genetic instructions dealing + with the communication processes of thought and action were simplistic, + and allowed for only the simplest of neural-structural communications, + that originally being "Survival." As time moved onward, the mutation + of the genetic code allowed for the routing of other neural pathways + to become active wherein other forms of new communication were + possible and manifested themselves accordingly, and so on throughout + all of the classic evolutionary forms of higher intelligence and + communication. + + So basically, Man starts out as a really simple, and not too bright, + creature, and evolves to what he is today through the extremely slow + process of genetic mutation and concurrent re-routing of the neural + pathways. Natural selection. . . + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Part II + + "Theater of the Long Winded". . . + + When we last left off, Uncle Dan was just about to get to the point + of his editorial. As we know from experience, that is not something + that is accomplished easily for him. . . + + Now let's return. + + Ahem... (Clearing throat)... + (Taking a small sip of water)... + (Clearing his throat for the second time)... + (The microphone does not seem to work)... + (Tap... Tap... Tap... Testing 1 2 3...) + + Ah, there we are! In part one, we covered my view of the process of + natural selection as brought about through the genetic code mutation. + In this continuation, I will endeavor to connect this with the + phenomena of specific extra-terrestrial activities on this, our planet. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Disclaimer: I must, at this point, clarify something. Before anyone + presumes that I am theorizing that we as a race are the + genetic experiment of some other-worldly civilization, let + me assure you that this is not my attempt at such. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + All life forms that we are familiar with continually going through + genetic mutation on a day to day bases, but every once in awhile, over + hundreds of thousands of years (as speculated,) the mutations reaches a + state where the genetic coding can structurally allow for the + activation and maintenance of newly routable neural circuitry. This is + the process of an evolving species in action! The very keys of who we + were, who we are, and who we will be as we meet the future ahead. + + From a good section of the contact and abduction reports I have come + across, which is by no means an exhaustive collection, a common thread + emerges. In many reported conversations with extraterrestrial life + forms, ET's, specifically a certain groups called "Greys", and others + that are of similar makeup, have commented that their very existence is + threatened due to genetic problems within their species and they need + to radically improve/change their genetic strain, else they will cease + to be. + + If I may digress for a moment. . . + + In my youth, I found out where our planet was located in relation to + the rest of the galaxy. I found myself questioning the reasons why + extra-terrestrials would want to come here. After all, we sit in the + western spiral arm of the galaxy, a veritable desolate no-man's-land. + Surely there must be some other planets with similar life forms as + ourselves, and inevitably much closer to the center of galactic + activity that would easily be much more suitable for experimentation or + information gathering than our small, out of the way, little planet! So + why do they keep coming? I have one speculative answer. . . + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Part III + + Now I know I'm probably making a stretch here, but as you can + probably see, there is a highly possible connection between the genetic + evolution of the human species, and the attention we are getting from + the outside. + + The firing off of formerly dormant genetically triggered neural- + circuits is something so rare; a new phase in out evolution, and + if our genetic structures are similar to those of other-worldly + cultures, then this is an event of such magnitude and importance that + it would draw interest from near and far. In the current state of our + genetic development, we may be seen by some as a source of genetic + salvation for an ailing alien civilization. In others this may + be nothing more than a scientific rarity that must be be catalouged + and studied. In any case, we are moving into a new era as a + species, and with or without an audience, it's the greatest show in + the universe. . . + + To bring this into summary form, let me say this, then I'll leave you + alone and shut up. . . + + The unique genetic evolutionary state which we are in presently has + made us a very curious and important commodity. We are in the midst of + a change as a species, and although this has been transpiring for a + great deal of time, it has finally come to the place where we are + seeing genetic change in an ever increasingly tangible manner. In my + opinion, this is the about the only reason we are being visited at all. + Right now, whether voluntarily or not, we have something to offer that + the rest of the galaxy wants, or wants part in. But we should rejoice + in this! We are seeing the evolution of creation taking place within + each of us. + + Take care, + + Dan Brown + + D.E.Brown + 1710 1/2 "X" Street (Lower) + Sacramento, California + 95818 + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2784.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2784.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9174a4a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2784.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +SUBJECT: MISSING TOWN FILE: UFO2784 + + + + + + + Date: 11-25-90 13:44 + Subj: Re: MISSING TOWN + + The only information I myself have been able to extract from RCMP + files and such is remarkably similar to what Streiber put forward in + his lattest book, "Majestic". And it is basically a repetition of what + appears in the report made by the National Board of Estimates entitled + "Intelligence Estimates on Flying Disk Motives". The book gives a + transcript of that report written by the narrator... + + "In the winter of 1930 a profoundly disturbing incident took place in + Canada. Trapper Arnaud Laurent and his son observed a strange light + crossing the northern sky. It appeared to be headed for the Lake + Anjikuni area. The two trappers describe it as being alternately + bullet-shaped and cylinder shaped. It can be assumed from this that it + was an object of irregular configuration that was tumbling as it moved. + + Another trapper named Joe Labelle had snowshoed into the village of + the Lake Anjikuni people, and been chilled to discover that the + normally bustling community was silent. Even the sled dogs, which would + normally have bayed welcome, were silent. + + The shanties were choked with snow, and not a chimney showed smoke. + + The trapper found the village's kayaks tied up on the shore of the + lake. Inside the shanties the trapper found a further surprise: there + were meals left hanging over fires, long grown old and moldy, + apparently abandoned as they were being cooked. The men's rifles were + still standing by the doors. This really scared the trapper, because he + knew that these people would never leave their precious weapons behind. + + He reported his discovery to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, who + investigated further. They discovered that the town's dogs had died of + hunger, chained beneath a tree and covered by a snowdrift. More + disturbingly, the town graveyard had been emptied. The graves were now + yawning pits. Despite the frozen ground, the graves had been opened and + the dead removed. + + The RCMP continues the case opened to this day. A check with their + records department indicated that the matter remains unsolved, and + despite a search of the whole of Canada and iquiries throughout the + world, not a trace of the missing twelve hundred men, women and + children has ever been found." + Prepared by Office of Research and Analysis, Central Intelligence Group + + Copy 1 of 2 + July 8, 1947 + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2785.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2785.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7065b7ce --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2785.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,469 @@ +SUBJECT: UFOs AND MIND CONTROL FILE: UFO2785 + + + + + + + + Fri 10 Jan 92 22:45 + By: John Powell + Re: Abductions + ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + + > Meeting: UFO CONTACT CENTER INTERNATIONAL GROUP MEETING, 1988 + > Speaker: Martin Cannon + > Subject: UFOs and Mind Control + + [THIS IS A TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED TALK GIVEN BY MARTIN CANNON VIA + TELEPHONE TO THE UFO CONTACT CENTER INTERNATIONAL GROUP MEETING IN + 1988. BECAUSE IT IS A TRANSCRIPTION, SOME OF THE NAMES MAY BE + INCORRECTLY SPELLED, BUT THE CONTENT OF THE INFORMATION RELAYED REMAINS + 100% ACCURATE.] + + * * * * * * * * * * * * * + + All I can say is that I have been, for over a year now, pursuing a + specific theory of UFO abductions which has royally ticked off + everybody that I've come in contact with -- believer and skeptic alike. + + This is a theory that, I think, designed to make me hate it. I'm + primarily interested in the government's involvement in the UFO + phenomena. + + Specifically, it seems to me, and I might as well lay out all my cards + on the table at once, it seems to me the abduction phenomenon might + just be a ploy, that the aliens are a paper-mache mask, as I sometimes + put it, for something else that's really going on. + + All theories of UFO abductions that I've ever come across (excepting + the entirely skeptical ones put out by people like Philip Klass), they + all include some aspect of the concept of mind control. Now it seems to + me that if people's minds are being controlled, and I think that this + technology is in existence, then we have to ask the question: can we + trust the participant's reports of what they are seeing, in terms of + perhaps even the UFO's that they are seeing, but certainly the nature + of the abduction experience itself? + + Do we even have to assume that the little gray aliens exist simply + because people tell us that they do, even if they believe that they + exist? + + Drawing from a very old example out of hypnotism, and Aileen being + herself a hypnotherapist, can perhaps tell you more about this -- it + was a very common practice, going back many, many decades, to see if + somebody was under some hypnotism, they would introduce them -- they + would take the subject, hypnotize them, and say that there was a small, + black dog in the room, and he's coming up, and would you pet him. + + And the subject will often actually see the dog just as thoroughly, + just as concretely, as they would see any normal dog that you might get + out of the animal shelter. + + Now if the human brain can be tricked to that extent, then is it not + possible that the ET's that people are seeing are of an exactly like + substance to that dog? + + I think it is. I have done a great deal of research into the subject of + the government's involvement in mind control operations. They like + people to believe that that was all something that they were doing back + in the 50's and the 60's, and it was all to catch up with the Russians + who had this huge lead in the field, but they stopped doing it around + 1963 and they never really found anything -- it's all a lie! + + I mean, basically, I've just come to the conclusion where I can say + that right now. These programs went very, very far. We got there first. + We were far ahead of the Russians. I even can give you a memo where + Allen Dulles admitted that to the Warren Commission, of all places. + + It went back to World War II, possibly to the 30's, in fact I've just + recently came across some information that occult groups have been + doing experimentations with what they call electronic mind control, + going all the way back to the 19th century. In fact there isn't a + single technology of mind control that doesn't go back to that time. + + And so, one of the problems, well, I should say that in researching + this I have not only looked up, read every book available on this + subject, some of which are EXTREMELY hard to find. I mean, I'm sorry to + sound too paranoid but I'm really beginning to get the idea that + somebody has been going around to the libraries and hussling them off + the shelves, because I keep on finding, you know, there are certain + books that I keep on looking for, and I find that they are not checked + out, and they are not only the library shelves either! And I'm + wondering what's happened to them. + + But I think I've now amassed quite a library on the subject, and I've + also gone to Washington, D.C. and I saw some 20,000 documents, these + are de-classified CIA / Defense Department documents, as well as many + interviews with scientists working on these programs back in the 50's + and 60's, and these were all compiled by John Marks, for his book _The + Search for the Manchurian Candidate_. + + I would suggest that all of you people read that book, but you must + understand that that book is incredibly conservative, and that the + whole subject goes far, far beyond that. I don't know why John Marks + wrote it the way he did. Certainly, there was much more information in + his files than he allowed to come out in his book. + + Another good book which I'm sorry to say is very, very difficult to get + a hold of, and probably the best book on the subject, is called + _Operation Mind Control_, and that's by Walter Bowart. But even then, + after you've gone to that literature, you know, you have to search + through a great deal of periodicals and scientific papers and so forth, + and also conduct a great many interviews. + + I've interviewed people who claim to have been under mind control, + specifically in Vietnam. And what they describe is very, very similar + to what the abductee's are describing in many respects. Not only that, + I've spoken to abductees. And this is a subject on which I feel a + certain amount of hesitancy in describing and talking about. + + One abductee, I called her Veronica in an article I wrote in UFO + Magazine (it's a long and extremely complicated and fascinating case), + under hypnosis, and I did not hypnotize her, in fact she is the one who + wanted the hypnosis and it was administered by a professional + hypnotist. In the 4th hypnotic session she described one of her + abductions, which as she dug deeper turned out not to have taken place + at all in any kind of Unidentified Flying Object, but in fact took + place in a house outside the Los Angeles area. + + And of course, we kept zeroing in on the house and its location, and so + on and so forth. + + Now, I must state directly here that there is some possibility, of + course, whenever there is a hypnotized subject -- it is often stated + wants to please the hypnotist, therefore might confabulate details that + would fit that hypnotists' particular thesis. I must say that Veronica + came up with the CIA thesis long before I ever met her. She was saying + that that was just one possibility among others. + + It also seems to be a nagging possibility that other abductees that I + have read about and talked to have come up with, although they didn't + explore it. There is something about the idea of being in contact with + alien beings that is extremely attractive to them, and they don't want + to give it up very easily. + + Anyway, to go back to the hypnotic session -- she had talked about -- I + won't give you the details of this kind of terrifying session that she + underwent in this man's house -- but, after the session, I found out + later she was told under some sort of hypnosis, even though the + hypnotist had tried to get her out of it, and she said that she was no + longer in trance, but apparently she still was. But I said, "Well, + okay, let's drive there." + + And we did. And I got a location, we found the location, and she + suddenly got very scared and we had to turn back. Well, I later did a + little bit of detective work and I found out who lived there. I won't + give the name, because there is obviously a certain possibility of + lible involved, but I found out that the man who lived in that house + was a scientist who worked on the CIA's mind control programs. These + programs had projects like ARTICHOKE, BLUEBIRD, MK-ULTRA. + + Not only that, while on the way there, Veronica described the interior + of this house, including one specific unusual detail that almost nobody + has in his living room, and I later found out from somebody who had + been in that house, that she described it accurately. Unfortunately, + Veronica now says that she can remember nothing of our conversation + together and I didn't tape her admission of what was inside the house, + so there is no way I can prove this, which is why I am very, very wary + of mentioning names, and possibly giving way to a lible suit. + + But I will say that for my purposes, and I can't prove it to anybody + else, but it has been proved to me that in at least one instance this + thesis is correct. + + I must tell you right now that I am as loath as anybody else to give up + on the alien hypothesis. I mean I grew up with it, I read alot of UFO + books in my time. I've never been plugged into the UFO Network... I've + never spoken to the actual researchers until just recently. And even + then it's only quite tangential. Aileen is probably the one I know + best. And so, it gets very, very difficult for me to give up entirely + upon the idea of the aliens. And I know that people will get angry at + me, because I am exploring another possibility. But it just seems that + this is a path which has to be looked at. + + I do know that from the internal CIA correspondence that I've looked at + in Washington, that one of the problems they had, is that -- it was a + "disposal problem" -- whenever they were experimenting on someone to + see how firmly they could control that person's mind, even though they + would try many techniques to get them to forget the session, as it + were, it was almost impossible to make them forget entirely. Memories + would come out, often-time in dreams, of what was going on. + + One of the scientists who worked on it, I think that was Martin Warren, + you may recall Martin Warren because he's mentioned prominently in + Philip Klass' skeptical book on UFO abductions. Martin Warren -- what + Philip Klass doesn't tell you is that Martin Warren was a CIA operative + going back to the very early 60's... + + But one of the things they mentioned in this context of people + remembering, was they will remember any scenario that they are told. In + other words, you can tell them: "Yes, something happened there... but + you know...", you can fix the memory -- in other words, arrange a cover + story. And so, yeah, the person might wake up in the middle of the + night with this terrible, terrible feeling in that back of his head + that he has been hypnotically told to forget something that happened to + him. But as long as he misremembers that, then the actual truth of the + matter will never come out. + + Now I think that something very much like that happened to a man named + Marty Kosky. Marty Kosky was a Finnish citizen. He was staying in + Canada sometime in the mid to the late 1970's, and I have alot of + material from him. He claims to have been a victim of mind control. + Now, by the 1970's this whole technology was getting extremely baroque. + In the 50's and the 60's, according to John Mark's informant, nobody + knows his name, I don't even think John Mark's knows his name -- he was + given the nickname "Deep Trance" -- according to Deep Trance the mind + control was basically, the technology had to do with drugs and some + with hypnosis. In the 70's it started to turn to things like + implantations in the brain and microwaves. And the two of them can work + together. + + Now Marty Kosky claims, this Finnish citizen claims to have been a + victim of the microwave experimentations happening in Canada. He had + first, in 1977 or thereabouts, came out with a brochure that was, well + you know, he learned English only a couple of years previously, and he + wasn't a professional writer, and claimed to be microwaved in his + brain, and so obviously you can tell that the pamphlet that he came up + with was not very impressive, and people looking at it probably + dismissed him as a nut. Later, though, he came out with a still not + particularly well-written, but much more convincing set of materials + which I believe that Aileen might have copies of there, and we can + certainly get some copies distributed to you people, if you're + interested in it, in which he tells the story in greater length. He + talks about being taken to a hospital, having things implanted in his + brain, hearing of voices. Now I must say that even though this sounds + like the story of an absolute Loony Tune, I know for a fact that this + sort of thing does occur -- I mean, is technologically possible -- + there was a scientist named Allen Fray in the late 60's, early 70's, + who discovered that you can induce, with microwaves, voices in the + brain -- that you can actually hear. + + As always, with these things, you only get the first experimentations + along these lines, the first successful notes of what was happening and + then of course, it's all clamped down, you don't get any more + information on follow-up experiments. But we do know, at least from the + early work, that people were able to hear things, directly perceived + words, as spoken over a microphone, directly in their mind... not just + through the ears or anything like that. Which makes me look twice + whenever I hear about people who claim to be hearing voices. Because I + know that that is a classic symptom of schizophrena, but many of these + people are also extremely hypnotizable. + + Classic schizophrenics are not easily hypnotizable, yet these people + are. They fall into a separate category, and I'm wondering if the + voices that they hear, if they too might be -- it's a possibility among + other possiblities, let's put it that way -- if these people are also + possible subjects of this sort of experimentation. + + Anyway, getting back to Kosky -- I won't tell you his entire story, + because I think it would be better if you read it entirely -- he talks + about being kidnapped and taken to a hospital and given what he called + "spy training". Much of his descriptions of what happened to him in the + hospital I think are quite incorrect, but who knows what happened to + his mind during those times. + + I do know that of the released MK-ULTRA papers from the 50's and the + 60's many of the absolute worst atrocities being committed by the CIA - + - they were trying to invade the space between people's ears -- were in + fact taking place in Canada. + + So, it's entirely likely that these things will be happening in Canada. + Don't think that simply because Kosky points the finger at the Royal + Canadian Mounted Police, doesn't really mean that the CIA or some other + government agency isn't behind it. In fact, some of what I've read has + indicated that the government agency that is now most involved in the + mind control experimentation is called DARPA. And I've also just + recently come across some information that NASA, of all people, of all + places, I don't know why, is possibly, just possibly involved with + that. There is whole story I can tell you along those lines. + + One of the things that Kosky was told after he got away from the + hospital and after he was trying to re-establish his sanity after these + terrible experimentations that were done to him, he was told that the + people talking to him were from Sirius. Now, this is one of the best + links I have between the mind control technology and the UFO abduction + phenomenon. That this is a victim of mind control claiming that he + knows that the controllers were using UFOs or aliens as a cover story + for their operations. He was even more explicit in his original + pamphlet. Where he was saying that: "The test program fluctuates from + spying education to meeting humanoids from other planets, people from + Mars and Sirius, if you are a religious person, you can even talk to + the Lord." + + So, in other words, they find out exactly how your personality is + structured, and then they will assume a persona to meet that, which + also makes me look at these people who claim to be hearing voices from + Jesus or from Satan. I know recently there was a rash of people hearing + the voice of Satan, I think it was a group of teenagers out in + Tennessee. And they progressed from -- they were committing horrible + atrocities -- first they were watching these terribly violent + videotapes which for some reason are now being made available to + teenagers, including videotapes of actual deaths and then the voices + told them to start torturing and murdering small animals, until finally + they actually murdered one of their numbers. + + Well, I know that this sounds like an outrageous story and possibly not + connected to what I am saying, but in fact it is connected because that + was one of the ways they trained -- one of the primary, I should say, + motivations for the entire mind control technology as we know it from + the papers in the 50's and the 60's, was to train people to commit + assassinations. And this is why I am very frightened whenever an + abductee -- and I've had a couple come up with this now -- start + talking about guns. In fact, you know, in that very same abduction + hypnotic session where we are talking about her abduction, she said + that the entities had told her to bring a gun to Martin (!), which did + not exactly make me feel very good, I mean I really don't know what was + behind that, but I must say that I've rather limited my contact with + that woman ever since. + + Now I should say, where was I -- oh yes -- again, I'm not used to + giving a lecture to large numbers of people whom I can't see, so I'll + probably be flitting from one thing to another, but anyway, I do have + documents which prove that that was the ultimate goal, to get people to + commit atrocities without any emotions, without any affect. That was + the primary purpose, and the way they did it was first to desensitize + people. + + There was a doctor named Nereut, who I think in 1974 spilled the beans + to the London Times saying that he was performing these kinds of + experimentations on soldiers of the Green Berets and Navy Seals, and + other Special Forces, and they were taught under hypnosis, and + sometimes not under hypnosis to desensitive themselves to violence, + usually through a series of films, and then you would progress from + that to not caring if you tore the head off a chicken. And then you + were told that the enemy was less than subhuman and so you would go out + there and commit unbelievable atrocities which, if you dig into it, you + know were committed in Vietnam. + + And then, according to the some of the people who claim to be mind + control victims that I've spoken to, you can be hypnotized into + forgetting that you committed the atrocities, and this is actually + quite beneficial, because you don't want that sort of thing on your + memory, you just won't be able to function. I spoke directly to -- I + can't give his name -- and I know that it would be very difficult for + me to convince your people of the truth of what he said. All I know is + that I sat directly across from him in the room. And I met him almost + by coincidence, I was interviewing him on another subject and told him + I was interested in mind control and he said this had happened to him. + + He gave me specific examples of things that occurred with him in the + 1960's, how he was put through this sort of program. Much of what he + described as to how this -- not just the mind control, he knew the + technology involved, he knew many of the terms involved, he would have + to do a great deal of studying in order to have gotten this + information. And he talked about the way that these sort of secret + missions would be directed out of a Naval intelligence ship, which I + knew from other sources to be absolutely true. So I believed what he + had to say to me, in other words. And he fingered the Veterans + Administration hospital out here in Northridge as one place where they + continue to have scientists operate in these capacities. And that was + very interesting to me, because I later have, and I just now had an + abductee tell me that she had memories of something terrible happening + at that very same Veterans Administration hospital. + + So that all fits together, again, I'm telling you this to explain to + you why I believe what I believe. I don't necessarily have all of the + facts and that I can put it in a book and prove it, but I have enough + that definitely my suspicion is raised. Now you may ask about + implantations, the scars that Budd Hopkins will show you photographs + of, and these implanations, intracerebreal implantations which are just + now beginning to show up in MRI scans on contactee's. I've just now + made friends with a woman out in Lancaster, who is studying abductees + who claims to have gotten alot of these MRI scans definitely having + "bogies" showing up on them. + + Again, this was a part of the technology. There was a book published in + 1968, I believe, called _Were We Controlled_ by a man with the + psuedonym of Lincoln Lawrence, and I would suggest that you people read + that. Now this is a book obstensibly about the John F. Kennedy + assassination, looking into the possibility, and this has been raised + by a number of people, outrageous as the possibility may seem, that + Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald were somehow hypnotically programmed to + do what they did. To tell you the truth, although I am willing to + accept any numbe number of unusual possibilities, I am not entirely + convinced of that. However, I know for a fact that much of the + information given in that book regarding the CIA's and the Defense + Department's mind control program is right on target, because it + checked out with material that was released only about fifteen years + later, or ten years later, under Freedom of Information. + + Lincoln Lawrence had to have, and I know that he was in fact an FBI + agent, and therefore probably did have the sort of connections. He had + to have connections to people who were in the know as to the technology + involved. And the technology that he fingers, and it's come up in a + couple of other sources, again we don't have actual internal government + documentation on this, unfortunately just yet, but the technology that + he fingers is something called Radio Hypnotic Intracerebreal Control, + that coupled with another technology called EDOM, Electronic + Dissolution Of Memory. And basically, EDOM is nothing more or less than + "missing time", exactly what Budd Hopkins talks about. Making people + forget what they've done for the past two or three hours. According to + Lincoln Lawrence, and I'm tending more and more to believe him, that is + a technology that we, not the aliens, but we have had in our hands for + my goodness, twenty, thirty years perhaps. Similarly, Radio Hypnotic + Intracerebreal Control is a technology which, even in its most + primitive form, according to some of the Russian literature mentioned + in Lincoln Lawrence's book, and again I gave a copy to Aileen there, + goes back to the 1930's. And that has to do with alot of arcane + subjects -- implantations, intracerbreal implantations in the brain. + + By sending electronic pulses to these intracerebreal implantations, you + can train the frequencies of the brain to a point of hypnotic + suggestibility, and then voices, which can be, as I mentioned earlier, + which can be placed into the brain will act as a sort of remote + hypnotist. One that has a far greater suggestibility than an actual + hypnotist that you might pay money to go see. And this is somebody who + can make you believe that you are seeing -- when this is happening to + you they can make you believe that you are seeing, or have seen, if + they want to erase a previous memory, say a van that kidnapped you, + when in fact they might tell you that it was a UFO that kidnapped you. + Or, as another story that I got from an abductee... + + He had this strange memory of -- you know, he was talking about his + abduction, and how he climbed into this saucer-shaped craft. But you + know, just before the saucer-shaped craft appeared in his mind he has + this strange memory that there was this truck in there, and that the + same guy who was on the craft was in that truck, and he couldn't quite + put the two together. Well, you know, I heard this from Budd Hopkins + once. He said that there was an abductee he talked who said that there + was, you know when he was abducted, that at first he thought it was a + helicopter, or some sort of helicopter that grabbed him and took him up + into the air. + + No, it couldn't have been that -- what it was, was this UFO -- and so, + Budd Hopkins is saying well obviously the helicopter was the screen + memory for this terrible UFO experience. + + Possibly, but the possibility that I'm looking into is, what if it + really was a helicopter and it was a UFO that was an induced screen + memory, possibly induced by this technology that I'm looking into + called Radio Hypnotic Intracerebreal Control, RHIC. There was a Doctor + named Jose Delgado, still working today, who wrote a book called + _Physical Control of the Mind: Towards a Psycho-Civilized Society_. + + These implants that everybody are talking about -- people are thinking + that only a highly advanced technology such as the aliens could come up + with. Well, Delgado was in business as early the late 1950's, he put + these implants in a bull in a Spanish bull-ring, and had the bull + charge him, and then he pushed a button on a box, it was like the same + sort of box you would get with a radio-controlled airplane. He pushed a + button -- and there are photographs of this that I can show you -- with + the bull like just a few feet in front of him and ready to gore the guy + to death -- came to a complete stop. Pushed another button, the bull + walks away. + + Now if that can happen to animals in the 50's why can't it be happening + to abductees? + + --------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Thanks, take care. + John. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2786.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2786.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4b68a6c0 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2786.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,782 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN THE UFO COVERUP FILE: UFO2786 + + + + + CHRONOLOGY: (Based on FOIA Papers and personal testimony) Version 2.09 + + + COPYRIGHT SEPTEMBER 8, 1988 by PEA RESEARCH + ULTRA MAJIC BBS, (916)684-5578 + + ............................................................ + + (UFOHIST2.TXT PART2 Conclusion) + + + Early 1960's...Frank Scully dies. (Author of "Behind the Flying + Saucers".) + + Aug. 13, 1960..Red Bluff, CA: CHP Officers Charles A. Carson and + Stanley Scott were on patrol when they sighted what they thought was an + airliner about to crash. When the UFO had descended to about 100 or 200 + feet altitude it suddenly reversed direction and climbed to 500 ft. + Description: round or oblong surrounded by a glow (color not mentioned) + and having definite red lights at each end. They continued to watch the + UFO as it performed "unbelievable" aerial feats. The local RADAR + operator confirmed the UFO at this time but denied it the next day. + Other Tehema County Sheriffs' officers also saw this UFO and another + similar one that same night. (NICAP, 1964) + + May, 1961......In the May issue of "Fate" magazine, Master Sgt. O.D. + Hill admits that we are still loosing Air Force planes to UFOs. The + first case was an F-86 jet fighter that was sent aloft to investigate + an UFO that had been plotted on the Radar scope of an Air Base (name + and dates classified). The Radar Operator spied the UFO heading + straight for the craft. The operator radioed for the F-86 to climb at + once, but it was too late. The two blips merged as one and the UFO was + tracked moving away. Classified as "mysterious" not a single shred of + the F-86 was ever found. (ref. Kinross AFB where an F-89 with crew of + two merged with an UFO and disappeared.-Donald Keyhoe) + + Second Case: A radar operator was tracking a transport plane carrying + 26 persons aboard when, suddenly, another blip appeared on the screen + closing at 2500 mph on the transport. Before the operator could warn + the transport the two blips emerged as one. The remaining blip sped + straight up at tremendous speed. A surface search in the vicinity + revealed no oil slicks on the water, although a Generals' briefcase was + found floating around. (see 4/1/59;9/29/59) + + 1961-1963......Near Nellis AFB, NE: "Mat", a radio maintenance engineer + at Nevada's AEC between 1961-1963, provided evidence to the MUFON + Journal that Project REDLIGHT was secretly being conducted at nearby + "Area 51", a 50-mile-square quadrant of land east of Nellis AFB. This + Project "involved flight-testing of an UFO which had been shipped there + from Edwards AFB." The craft flew silently, was about 20 to 30 ft. in + diam., and had no wings or tail. + + Apr. ,1962.....Flight Commander P.J. (initials), attached to TAC + Fighter Wing was deployed at Wright-Patterson AFB and mistakenly broke + into an air hanger where he thought the gym was located. Upon entering + the hanger he was approached by an air police sentry with a sub-machine + gun. Behind the sentry was a saucer approx. 12-15 ft. diam. suspended + off the ground by two engine test stands. There were no markings or + insignia on the saucer. It had no rivet markings. The saucer was roped- + off and 8 guards stood at parade rest around it. P.J. and his friend + were encouraged to leave the hanger. P.J. returned to MyrtleBeach AFB, + S.C. + + July 17, 1963..A passenger of a Convair-880 related to UFO + investigator, James Moseley, that the 4 engined jet airliner she had + been flying in was pursued by an UFO. The jet , traveling at 600 mph, + made a sharp turn to avoid the UFO, now rapidly closing in on the + plane. Just as they were about to collide, the UFO swerved away at + fantastic speed and disappeared in the night sky. When the (unnamed) + woman confronted the pilot about the incident, he said, "I wouldn't + dare risk telling the airline of the incident. If I could tell you of + some of the experiences my buddies have had, you'd never fly again!" + + Apr. 15, 1964..USAF Intelligence officer meets with 2 Aliens at + prearranged location in the desert of New Mexico. Project SIGMA + operates at AFB, New Mexico. (see 1959) + + Oct., 1964.....Air Force and Army radar stations tracked an UFO as it + hovered over and flew along the demilitarized zone between North and + South Korea. The UFO was visible for over an hour. + + Dec. 10, 1964..Fort Riley, KA: Recovery of Saucer by A.K. (initials). + (see 11/00/65) + + Dec. 19, 1964..MEMO to Chief, Contact Division: NICAP case #(censured): + Subject: UFOs over Patuxent Navel Air Station between 1500 and 1530 + hours. Two UFOs approached Air Base at 3800 mph. Another UFO approached + at 6000 mph. Radar operator, Chief Pinkerton had visual on Radar. US + Coast Guard had "visual" on the UFOs. OFFICIAL statement to press: the + (single) blip was caused by faulty radar equipment! (see 1/25/65) + + Jan. 25, 1965..MEMO to Chief, Contact Division: NICAP Case #(censured). + (see 12/19/64) + + 1965...........While visiting the Air Force Museum in Fairborn, Ohio, + R.M. (initials), a government employee of 23 yrs., went through a + double- door marked "Off Limits" and suddenly came face to face with an + Alien in a self contained space suite. Description: About 4.5 ft. tall + with a translucent dome over its' large head; wasn't human; large eyes + under a heavy brow; no noticeable nose; a slit for a mouth; bluish + skin. When the creature walked it didn't bend its' knees. R.M. later + found out from a retired Air Force Colonel from Wight-Patterson AFB, + that 2 live Aliens were held in captivity in an artificial environment. + The Colonel also said that a 2-man sized craft crashed near Whitewater + Lake, Indiana, as a result of an electrical disturbance in the + atmosphere. [The Alien would have to lock his knees in a high-gravity + environment to avoid falling down.] + + Feb. 11, 1965..Personal Interview report by Capt. D.M. (initials): + Aerial encounter of three UFOs with radar and visual sightings. Air + Force flight F-169 enroute from Anchorage, AL, to Japan. Capt. R.W. + (initials) and Capt. W. (initial) observed 3 UFOs on radar 5 miles off + the wing. The UFOs paced the Flying Tiger freighter aircraft for 30 + minutes then climbed away at a steep angle at about 1200 knots ground + speed. Estimated size (thumb and finger method) approx. 200 to 1000 ft. + diam., glowing red and oval shaped. The pilot remarked, "we often see + UFOs on the Alaskan run!" + + May 28, 1965...Police statement (interview); Bougainville Reef, + Australia: An Ansett-A.N.A. DC-6B airliner (VH-INH) en route to Port + Moresby, New Guinea, was buzzed by a UFO at about 3:25 a.m. The pilot + radioed the Townsville Ground Control Tower and talked to Mr. O. + (initial). Description: slightly spherical and oblate, flattened on top + and bottom; appeared to have exhaust gasses coming from it. Photos of + the UFO were taken by the pilot but were later confiscated at Canberra + as was the taped conversation to Mr. O., the Tower operator. Mr. O. was + threatened with dismissal if he talked about the incident. + + July 3, 1965...Newspaper reports, ANTARCTICA: Argentine, British and + Chilean military and scientific personnel observed an UFO moving at a + frightening speed doing incredible maneuvers. It was something solid, + glowing blue-green and causing E/M interference with our equipment. + Lenticular shaped "flying saucer". Tracked by theodolite, binoculars + and magnetograph tapes. Also, 10 color photographs were taken of the + UFO. + + Sept. 3, 1965..Project Blue Book File #(?): Damon/Angleton, TX. Deputy + Sheriffs Billy E. McCoy and Robert W. Goode were investigating an UFO + in the back-woods roads when the purplish UFO shot instantly towards + them to within 150 feet and hovered at 100 feet off the ground. The + bright glow illuminated the interior of the car and the surrounding + fields (11:30 p.m.). "Every blade of grass stood out clearly" in the + field. Officer Goode, who was driving with his arm out the window, felt + heat on his arm and later reported that a cut that was on his arm + healed more rapidly than normal [U/V effects]. + + Sept.16,1965...NICAP Report #(?): Pretoria, S. Africa: Constables John + Lockem and Koos de Klerk while on patrol (after midnight) suddenly had + a domed, disc shaped object come into their van headlights. It was + sitting on the road. The UFO was copper colored and about 30 ft. in + diam. Immediately the UFO lifted off, emitting tongues of flame from + two tubes or channels on the underside. The flames deflected about + three feet off the macadam road surface and were still visible after + loosing sight of the craft. Road damage: part of the road was caved-in, + and in a 6 foot area the gravel was separated from the tar. Samples of + the road surface were taken for analysis, which report was never + released. Lt. Col. J.B. Brits, District Commandant of Pretoria North + said the incident was "highly SECRET ... and inquiry is being conducted + in TOP circles." + + Nov., 1965.....Fort Riley, KA: "AK" (Aaron Kaback) was on guard duty at + 2 a.m. when the duty officer drove up and ordered him to hop into the + jeep. He and 3 other officers were driven out to a remote area where a + large oval objectwas resting. An army chopper was hovering above the + object and shining a bright light on it. The object was approx. 35-48 + ft. in diam., had a fin on the end and an exhaust port or some kind of + hole below the fin. It had rows of squares around the rim and remained + completely dead for the 2 1/2 hours they guarded it. (Kaback seems to + be confused as to the actual date this incident occurred. see 12/10/64) + + Mar. 20, 1966..Dexter, MI.: Frank Mannor, age 47, and Ronald Mannor, + age 19, went out at night through swampy, hummocky terrain to + investigate flashing lights in the swamp. They saw a domed, elliptical + object with a quilted surface hovering about 8 ft. off the ground in a + patch of apparent mist. The object glowed "blood red" and the body + lights disappeared. They lost sight of the UFO and didn't see it again. + (see 3/21/66;4/1/66) + + Mar. 20, 1966..La Porte, IN: Patrolman Michael Spevak was on duty when + 2 youths pulled over and pointed out an UFO that they said had been + following them from Michigan City to La Porte. According to the young + men, the object frequently burst into such a bright glare that it + blinded them, forcing them off the highway. It had been following them + at an altitude of about 60 ft. Both the young men and the patrolman + noticed a cross-shaped appendage protruding from the lower portion of + the UFO. + + Mar. 21, 1966..Law enforcement officer F.B. (initials) at Dexter, + Michigan, and officer "C" (initial) on patrol sighted a landed saucer + in a swamp. Description: Large craft, like a pot; no windows; had a + dull glow and steam was coming up from the water. Sounded like a + turbine, a low whine or hum. He notified Selfridge AFB which + immediately sent out MP's, well armed. All law officers were ordered + back and their film was confiscated. Later his report and other reports + disappeared from police headquarters. Then, everyone in the force, + including he and "C", were transferred to other parts of the county. + The UFO wasn't disabled. F.B. saw it take-off and climb straight up. + (see 3/1/67) + + Apr. 1, 1966...From LIFE magazine: In a hastily called press + conference, the USAF spokesman J. Allen Hynek suggested that the + Dextor, MI, UFO and others seen in the swamps near Hillsdale may have + been marsh (or swamp) gas that had spontaneously ignited. (see + 3/20/66;3/21/66) + + Apr. 5, 1966...Congressman, Gerald Ford announces to Congress the need + to extensively examine UFOs. + + Apr. 17,1966...Ravenna, OH, to Conway, Penn.: Deputy Sheriffs Dale + Spaur and Wilbur Neff of Portage County were on patrol when an UFO + stopped above them, illuminating them and the surroundings (it was just + about dawn). As the UFO moved away from them at about 300-500 ft. above + the road, it would alternately start and stop ahead of them playing cat + and mouse. At E. Palestine, OH, officer Wayne Huston joined in the + pursuit. At speeds of 100 mph in unfamiliar territory, they were soon + low on gas and had to give up the game with the UFO. Through local + police dispatch the officers alerted the Air Force, who sent out + fighter planes to investigate the UFO. As the officers saw the AF + planes approaching the UFO shot straight up and out of sight. (see + 6/24/66) + + Summer, 1966...Results of an Iowa Poll, Iowa: 45% Iowans queried + believe UFOs to be REAL objects. Of the 45%, 21% were of the opinion + that the UFOs were of extraterrestrial origin. + + June, 1966.....Nha Trang, Vietnam: At this active Army Base at about + 9:45 p.m., what was thought to be a flare lit up the north sky. The + bright UFO approached the base alternately moving at low to high + speeds. Upon descending toward the soldiers it hovered at an altitude + of 300-500 ft. All of a sudden the 6 generators failed along with the + engines of the idling Skyraiders, (TESLA energy discharge effects) + bulldozers and trucks. The entire valley and surrounding mountains were + illuminated by the hovering UFO for about 4 min. after which it went + straight up and disappeared in about 3 sec. After the incident a plane + load of officials from Washington arrived to investigate. (see 3/4/69) + + June 24, 1966..Richmond, VA: Officer William L. Stevens, Jr., observed + a dirigible-shaped UFO at 3:30 in the morning near the fairgrounds. It + was about100 ft. long and 30 ft. thick with greenish-yellow lights on + its perimeter. Stevens attempted to chase the UFO but it maintained an + even distance from him even though he sped up and slowed down. "The + object seemed to be playing CAT & MOUSE with me," he later said. After + 10-15 min. the UFO accelerated and sped away. (see 4/17/66) + + Mar. 1, 1967...Lt. Gen. Hewitt T. Wheless, USAF, sends notice to all + branches of the military warning of persons imitating military officers + and harassing private citizens and confiscating UFO photos. (see + 3/21/66) + + Jul. 3, 1967... R.T. (initials), with ALPHA RED TOP SECRET CRYPTO + Clearance, rank PFC, assigned to Canine Corps at Camp Pendleton, San + Diego, CA., states that he and his dogs were air transported 2.5 hrs. + to a sight in a desert (unknown location) UFO crash-sight. Saucer: + Metallic, 30 ft. diameter, domed top, no windows. He also observed: + Large walk-in refrigerator, empty body bags, men at work with technical + instruments. + + JAN. 19, 1968..DIA Intelligence Report from Liaison in Moscow, Russia + mentioning an attempt by the British Government in 1967 to collaborate + with the Soviets in UFO research. (see 2/22/68) + + Feb. 22, 1968..UNCLASSIFIED AIRGRAM, U.S. Dept. of the State regarding + UFOs in the Soviet Union: Feb. 1968, Soviet Life published three pages + pertinent to UFOs, by Felix Zigel. He also published a UFO article in + 1966. Until recently no study of UFOs had been made in the Soviet Union + (see 1/19/68) + + 1968...........Project xxxxxxxx (name CENSURED) established to evaluate + all UFO information pertinent to space technology. (see + 1953,12/69,1976) + + Mar. 4, 1969...Near Atlanta, Missouri: The City Marshall and Mail + Carrier in Elmer, Missouri, William R. Overstreet observed an UFO at + early dawn over the road ahead of him. It was about 100 ft. in diam. + apparently rotating clockwise and emitting a strong white beam of light + down to the road which seemed to magnify the size of the road it was + shining on. He felt intense heat from the direction of the UFO and his + CB radio was dead. As he neared the light beam from the UFO his truck + motor and radio quit. As the beammoved away from his truck he was able + to start the engine again.(TESLA energy discharge effects) He followed + the UFO for about 4 mi. staying away from the beam. The UFO followed + the contour of the land it was flying over. After 7-8 min. the UFO + veered away and went out of sight. "I had never believed in them too + much until I saw this," he said. "Now I know that there is something to + these UFOs!" (see 8/13/75,6/66) + + 1969?..........A retired Colonel from Wright-Patterson AFB with Top + Secret clearance states that a 2-man saucer crashed near Whitewater + Lake, Indiana as a result of an electrical disturbance in the + atmosphere. + + Dec. 1969......Project xxxxxx (name CENSURED) continues after Project + BLUEBOOK is closed. (see 1968) + + Oct. 1969......Jimmy Carter sees and reports a UFO. B1-E,516 CARTER, + JIMMY (Pres.) + + 1972...........Project SNOWBIRD established to test fly a captured + flying saucer. + + Oct. 2, 1972...A letter from the Dept. of National Defence, Canada, + Brig. Gen. L.A. Bourgeois states: All UFOs reported to CFHQ are + investigated by the Director of Operations. It isn't a practice to + allow the public to study these files. Since the beginning of 1968 + these UFO reports have been passed along to the NRC. Evidence suggests + that UFOs present no threat to the Technology world. They exhibit a + unique scientifically advanced technology. (see 9/19/26) + + Sept. ,1973....At Great Lakes Naval Base, Instructor R.K., Gunnery + School Grade E-4, while delivering a sealed envelope to the Commandant + in the quonset hut, was surprised to see a saucer 30 ft. diam. and 10 + ft. ht. resting on a wooden platform. Description: Silvery blue and + shimmering, it tapered like a teardrop with a flange running along its + topside from one end to the other and there were no windows. R.K. + believed this saucer to be the one shot down on its third pass over a + Navy vessel by a missile. The saucer crashed in 350 ft. water between + Hawaii and the mainland. It was retrieved by a Glomar Explorer, shipped + to Hawaii then stateside to Chicago. + + Oct. 18, 1973..Capt. Lawrence Coyne, while flying an Army helicopter + with three other crewmen were 45 minutes out over Mansfield when Staff + Sgt. Robert Yanacsek spotted a red glowing UFO headed toward their + helicopter at an estimated 600 mph. It stopped abruptly 500 ft. above + them. It had a big, gray, metallic looking hull about 60 ft. long, + shaped like an airfoil or streamlined cigar with a red light in front + and a green light in the rear, the lead edge glowed red a short + distance from the nose. There was a center dome. The 'copter radio + wouldn't function and the copter was set for a 20 degree dive but + gained altitude from 1700 ft. to 3500 ft. with no power applied. After + a slight "bounce" the UFO took off to the N.E. + + Oct. 25, 1973..Director of FBI, Clarence M. Kelley, states: UFOs are + not and never has been a matter that is within the investigative + jurisdiction of the FBI. + + Jan. 8, 1975...CONFIDENTIAL Spanish Report, Spanish Air Force: UFO + spotted by military personnel at Las Bardenas Reales near Zaragoza Air + Base. + + Mar. 28, 1975..Letter from Senator Barry Goldwater stating: Ten or + twelve years ago I tried to get access to the building at Wright- + Patterson (HANGER-18) where UFO artifacts were stored and I was + understandably denied access. It is still classified above TOP SECRET. + I've heard they plan to release some of the information in the near + future and hope not to have to wait too much longer. + + Aug. 13, 1975..Near Haderslev, Denmark: Police Officer Evald Hansen + Maarup was driving home at 10:50 p.m. when all of a sudden his car was + engulfed by a bright blue light while at the same time his car lost all + power. The temperature in his car rose to that of a warm summer day and + his radio was dead so he couldn't call for help. The bright beam from + the UFO was conical in shape with a bottom diam. of 4-5 meters and a + top diam. at the UFO of 10 meters. Two dome-like protrusions were + visible on the underside of the UFO that was hovering at about 20 + meters altitude. He activated a special camera on the patrol car which + automatically took 3 pictures of the UFO. As the UFO sped away he + regained power to his car. The developed film which was later turned + over to the Danish AF showed the light source of the UFO on it. No + report or analysis has been available from the AF to date. (see 3/4/69) + + Aug. 13, 1975..Alamogordo, NM: Staff Sgt. Charles L. Moody, USAF, drove + out to the outskirts of town late one night to watch for meteors. As a + disc-shaped UFO descended toward him, he tried to start his car to get + away but it wouldn't start. He heard a high pitched whining sound from + the UFO and saw shadowy figures in it and felt numbness, after which + the UFO departed. After driving home he found he couldn't account for + 1.5 hours. The next day his back was enflame and he discovered a small + puncture wound over his spine and a few days later he developed a body + rash. As months passed he regained memory of the missing 1.5 hours. He + remembered that he had been in the UFO and in telepathic communication + with small 4'8" humanoids. They had whitish gray skin, large heads, + large eyes, small slit-like mouths and mask-like features. He had been + in a drug-like state on a table and they had poked a rod like device + into his back. After this they escorted him about the ship and later + dropped him off at his car. (see 3/4/69) + + Oct. 28, 1975..CONFIDENTIAL CINC/NORAD Report: UFOs, suspicious objects + seen by ground personnel. Sounded like jet aircraft. Intermittent radar + contact made with object. Jets scrambled to intercept but objects + lights went out interceptors passed and then came on again. Then the + object increased in speed and raised to a high altitude and could not + be discerned from the stars. Description: Through binoculars, looked + like 100 ft. sphere and appeared to have craters around the outside. To + date, AF and SAC helicopters have failed to provide a positive I.D. of + the UFO. (see 11/11/75,7/52) + + Oct. 29, 1975..NMCC Joint Staff Memo: Subject: AFB penetration. At + 290200 EST, AFOC informed NMCC that an unidentified helicopter (UFO), + possibly two, had been sighted flying low over Loring AFB, Maine, in + proximity to a weapons storage area. Army Nat. Guard helos called in to + assist in locating UFO. NORAD informed of the incident by SAC. Received + authority to proceed into Canadian airspace, if necessary, to locate + UFO. A similar incident was reported the evening before. + + Nov. 11, 1975..CONFIDENTIAL CINC/NORAD Report. (see 10/28/75) + + Jan. 21, 1976..MEMO from NMCC by Rear Adm. J. B. Morin stating: Two + UFOs reported near the flight line at Cannon AFB, N.M. Security Police + report the UFOs to be 25 yards (75 ft.) in diameter, gold/silver in + color with blue light on top, hole in the middle and red light on the + bottom. + + Apr. 9, 1976...CONFIDENTIAL CIA Message: Source (name Censored) seeks + guidance from CIA UFO experts as to material in his report that should + remain classified. + + July 30, 1976..NMCC Joint Staff Memo: Subject: Reports of UFOs. At + approx. 0345, EDT, the ANMCC received several reports of UFOs near Fort + Ritchie. At 0130, civilians reported an UFO to the NAB. At 0255, two + separate patrols sighted three UFOs; oblong with a reddish tint. At + 0300, the Desk Sgt. (name with held) sighted an UFO over the ammo + storage area at 100-200 yds. altitude. At 0345, an Army Police Sgt. + sighted an UFO in the vicinity of sight R. ANMCC was requested to have + each individual write a statement on the sightings. One person said the + UFO was the size of a 2.5 ton truck. + + Sep. 19, 1976..Tehran, Iran: Civilians reported an UFO to the AFB. The + Iranian AF scrambled an American F-4 for intercept. As the F-4 was + vectored towards the brilliant UFO, all communications and + instrumentation were suddenly lost. As the pilot broke off pursuit, all + aircraft functions returned to normal. A second F-4 that was scrambled + began closing in on the UFO at greater than Mach 1 and was closing on + the UFO at 150 nautical mph., but the UFO accelerated and stayed ahead + of the F-4 (confirmed by Radar). Multi-colored flashing lights were + visible on the UFO. The moment the F-4 pilot tried to lock an AIM-9 + missile at the UFO he lost all weapons panel and communication control. + The UFO launched two smaller UFOs, one of which began to follow the F- + 4. After evasive action by the F-4, the smaller UFO returned and united + with the larger UFO. The other smaller UFO seemed to have landed on the + ground so the pilot flew down to investigate it. The landed UFO + appeared to be 12 feet in diameter? As the pilot descended the light + from the landed UFO went out and he lost sight of it. The DIA termed + this sighting as "an outstanding report. This case is a classic which + meets all the criteria necessary for a study of a UFO phenomenon." And, + "an inordinate amount of manuverablilty was displayed by the UFOs." + (see 10/2/72,9/20/76) + + Sep. 20, 1976..DIA MESSAGE: UFO sighted over Tehran, Iran. "Initiate" + IPSP PT-1440. The Iranian Air Force scrambled an F-4 to intercept the + UFO. Due to its brilliance the UFO was visible 70 miles away. When the + F-4 approached within 25 mi. of UFO the F-4 lost ALL instrumentation + and communications (UHF and intercom). As the first F-4 banked away + from the UFO he regained instr. and comm. A second F-4 was dispatched, + 2 man, with radar.The radar return was of a craft the size of a 707 + Tanker. As the F-4 closed within 25 NMi. of UFO, the UFO launched a + bright white object about one third the apparent size of the moon. The + pilot attempted to fire an AIM-9 missile at the second UFO but at that + moment he lost all instruments and communication.As he banked away from + the primary object the secondary object went to the inside of his turn + then returned and rejoined with the primary object. Afterwards the F-4 + regained control of instr. and communications. (see 9/19/76) + + 1976...........Project SIGMA becomes an independent project from + project xxxx. (see 1968) + + Sept. 1, 1977..Air Force Letter from Col. Charles H. Senn, Wash., D.C., + to Gen. Duward L. Crow (Ret.), NASA, Wash., D.C. stating: Enclosed are + the UFO Fact Sheet and standard response to UFO public inquiries you + requested. I sincerely hope you are successful in preventing a + reopening of UFO investigations. + + Jan. 18, 1978.. MP at Ft. Dix shoots and kills an Alien. Incident + report sent to Col. Landon and Brig. Gen. Brown (AFOSI). The reporting + officer was S. W. (initials), Lt. 1st Class. Sgt. J.M. (initials), + Security Police Squad (PACAF) also witnessed and reported the incident + (Sept. 16, 1980). + + Feb. 1, 1978...NASA Information Sheet: NASA is not involved in a + research program involving UFOs, nor is any other government agency. + The U.S. Air Force nolonger investigates UFOs. (see NASA arrest laws + re. private citizens) (see 11/17/80) + + July 18, 1978..DOD Staff Message: UFO spotted over North TEHRAN, Iran. + + Oct. 21, 1978..Aircraft Accident Investigation Summary Report: Fredrick + Valentich vanished while reporting a UFO playing cat and mouse with his + airplane which was a Cessna 182L. It's hovering above me... it's got a + green light and sort of metallic (like) it's all shiny (on) the + outside... it's hovering and it's Airplane not an aircraft... (end of + transmission...pilot presumed dead). + + Nov. 9, 1978... L. Gordon Cooper, in a letter to the U.N., states that + UFOs are interplanetary vehicles and crewed by Aliens. + + May 10, 1980...DOD Report: The FAP (Peruvian Air Force) spotted a UFO + twice and tried to intercept and destroy the UFO without success. (see + 7/52) + + Aug. 9, 1980...through Sep. 3, 1980: AFOSI Complaint Form:at Kirtland + AFB three persons report seeing UFO over a Restricted Test Range. + + On Aug. 9th a Sandia Security Guard drove down the Coyote Canyon access + road to check out an alarmed building and observed a landed UFO next to + an alarmed building. The UFO was a round disk shaped object. As he + approached the object on foot equipped with a shotgun the object took + off in a vertical direction at a high rate of speed. His radio wasn't + working right at the time so he couldn't reach dispatch. The building + contained HQ CR 44 material. [Nature of material not known.] + + Sept.16, 1980.. Sgt. J.M. (initials) of the PACAF writes to Len + Stringfield that he was stationed at McGuire AFB, N.J., when, on Jan. + 18, 1978, an MP shot and killed an alien at the Ft. Dix Army base next + to the AFB. (see 1/18/78) + + Nov. 17, 1980..SECRET USAF OSI Document: Analysis of photo of UFO + following C-5A aircraft inclusive. Photo analysis of Cylinder Shaped + UFO legitimate. PhotoE. showed legitimate disc shaped UFO of 37 ft. + diameter with trilateral insignia on object. USAF still has an interest + in all UFO sightings over installations and test ranges. Several other + Government agencies, lead by NASA, actively investigate legitimate + sightings through COVERT COVER. One agency that deceives the public + whict such covert cover is the UFO reporting center at U.S. Coast and + Geodetic Survey, Rockville, MD. 20852. [The results of PROJECT AQUARIUS + is still classified TOP SECRET with access limited to "MJ-12".] The + Paul Bennewitz case still being monitored by NASA. Still receiving + assistance from Fugate(?) Miller. (see 2/1/78) + + Dec. 27, 1980..USAF UFO REPORT signed by Lt. Col. Charles I. Halt, + Deputy Base Commander, RAF Woodbridge stating: Two USAF security police + patrolmen saw a UFO either hovering or on legs outside the back gate, + Woodbridge. Being early morning, it illuminated the entire forest with + a white light. Description: Metallic in appearance and triangular in + shape, pulsing red light on top and banks of blue lights underneath. + Approx. 2-3 meters across and 2 meters high. It maneuvered through the + trees and disappeared. (see 12/29/80) + + Dec. 29, 1980..Lt. Col. C. I. Halt, sees a UFO that separates into 5 + UFOs and later sees 3 other UFOs. (see 12/27/80) + + Dec. 29, 1980..A low flying UFO was escorted by a large number of + helicopters (23) including some Chinooks and possibly Hueys, near + Dayton, Texas. It was probably escorted to the TOP SECRET underground + installation within Fort Hood, Texas. The SECRET air force base is NOT + listed in the Air Force Officer's Guide or the Air Force Almanac [it is + an Army AFB]. The name of the Secret base is Gray AAF, Texas. + + (12/29/80, cont'd) The special group piloting the helicopters Escort + for UFO are known as the "BLUEBOYS". The Texas Department of Public + Safety works closely with Gray AAF on UFO cases. (see 6/6/88) + + Jan. 13, 1981..(BENTWATERS AFB) Air Force MEMO from Lt. Col. Charles I. + Halt, Deputy Base Commander. (see 12/27/80,12/29/80) + + Oct. 19, 1981..Barry Goldwater, Senator, Arizona, in a letter to Lee + Graham, f Aeroject Electric Systems, Azusa, Calif., states that he has + given up trying to get into the BLUE ROOM at Wright-Patterson AFB where + UFO artifacts are stored by the Air Force. (see 3/28/75) + + Nov. 3, 1981...Civil Action, Case No. 80-1562, goes against the + plaintiff and for the defendant, the NSA. The NSA retains the right to + withhold 156 TOP SECRET records containing communications intelligence + (COMINT) reports which were produced between 1958 and 1979. Only + military personnel with a Top Secret Clearance were allowed to view the + documents for the court hearing. NOT even the Judge was allowed to see + them, even though he ruled against the plaintiff (CAUS). (see 6/24/83) + + Nov. 27, 1982..Palatine, IL.: Police Commander Michael McDonald was on + patrol at 5:00 a.m. when the area around his car was lighted, as if by + a phosphorousflare. Looking up he saw a large white UFO with tinges of + red at an altitude of 900-1000 ft. Two other officers, alerted by + radio, also observed the UFO. The other two cars gave pursuit to the + UFO at speeds of between 60-65 mph but the UFO outdistanced them. A few + minutes later another UFO was noted by the commander and then the other + two officers. It was a diffuse "domed disc" which was seen to emit a + beam of light towards the ground. The UFO then disappeared behind the + tree line of a forest preserve. The police report includes a tape + recording of the radio communications during the sighting. + + Jun. 24, 1983..Larry W. Bryant, Director of CAUS, filed a Civil Action, + Case No. 83-1932 (Judge Oliver Gasch) petitioning for a Writ of Habeas + Corpus EXTRATERRESTRIAL, in the United States District Court for the + Dist. of Columbia, seeking to obtain the release from custody of "one + or more occupants of apparent extraterrestrial origin." Mr. Bryant + contends that the Government action in maintaining secret custody, + detention, and prosecution of such extraterrestrials is unlawful and a + violation of their basic rights and is seeking to restore their civil + rights. (see 11/3/81) + + Nov. 29,1983...Dr. Robert I Sarbacher, President and Chairman of the + Board, Washington Institute of Technology, in a letter to William + Steinman states persons definitely involved in operations of recovered + saucers were John von Neuman and Dr. Vannever Bush. Also, Dr. Sarbacher + thought that Robert Oppenheimer was also involved. Dr. Sarbacher had + been invited by President Eisenhower to attend several discussions + associated with the reported recoveries, but was unable to attend them. + He did receive Special Reports on the recoveries at the Pentagon but + was instructed NOT to remove them from his office. + + 1984...........From the Air Traffic Controllers Manual: Controllers + MUST report UFOs immediately to AIS (Military), LATCC. A completed + report MUST be sent to MOD (AFOR). A list of phone numbers and + locations is shown in the directory at Appendix H. + + May 16, 1984...Dept. of the Army letter to W. S. Steinman stating that + the IPU was disestablished in the late 1950s and all records were + transferred to the Air Force. Therefore the Army isn't aware of what + their function was even though it was a Secret unit of the Army. [FOIA + requests to USAF] (see 3/12/87) + + Mar. 19, 1985..(LONDON, ENGLAND) In a letter from Ministry of Defence, + Lord Trefgarne states, "There is no organization in the MOD appointed + solely for the purpose of studying UFOs, and no staff are employed on + the subject full time... the staff in the Department... examine the + reports as part of heir normal duties... and we cannot inform observers + of the probable identity of the objects seen." + + June 28, 1985..USAF ACCESS RESTRICTED NOTICE: Report TR-DE-3A, Oct. 15, + 1955, from Air Tech. Intel. Ctr., file no. TS5-2862, has been WITHDRAWN + from the National Archives and is classified a TOP SECRET UFO REPORT. + + Aug. 27, 1985..Darlian, CHINA, the "China Daily" reports: 20,000 people + are involved in UFO research. The first recognized photo of a UFO in + China was taken in 1945. In 1981 CSUR UFO research organization was + established. More than 600 UFOs have been reported within the past 5 + years in China. Studies will be done on UFOs and Human body science + relationships. + + May 11, 1986...Near Sadona, AR: Minister Robert H. Henderson and his + wife, Nann, of Phoenix, AR, were flying at an altitude of 8500 ft. at 4 + p.m. when a very bright UFO was seen approaching head-on to them. As he + prepared to take evasive action the UFO passed quickly to the left and + below of his plane. The UFO was seen to be wingless and resembling a + "modified half-sphere, with the flat side down." The closure rate was + estimated at about 1200 mph. + + May 19, 1986...Near Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: Between 9:00 + to 12 midnight the Brazilian Air Defense and the Civil Air System were + swamped with Radar and pilot UFO sightings. As Ospires Silva, President + of Petrobras Oil Company were preparing to land, the control tower + informed him of UFO targets on their radar. He and his companion, Alcir + Pereira da Silva, saw bright red-orange UFOs, not at all like stars or + planes. They attempted to pursue the UFOs for 30 min. but gave up as + the UFOs seemed to be jumping from place to place. At this time three + F-5E fighter jets were scrambled from Santa Cruz AFB. Capt. Marcio + Jordao was able to approach within 12 miles of an UFO, visible to him + as a bright light changing from white to green. Lt. Kleber Caldas + Marinho chased another UFO which was a very intense light, changing + from white to green then red again. Both pilots broke off chase as they + were running low on fuel. Ground Radar picked up 10-13 more UFOs that + surrounded another plane with Capt. Armindo Souza Viriato de Marinho, + K.C. Freitas piloting it. Capt. Freitas tracked the UFOs on his radar, + but only de Freitas, A.S.V. saw them visually once as they climbed + vertically past him. Brig. Gen. Octavio Moreira Lima made these events + public at a press conference and allowed the pilots and radar operators + to be questioned by the media. (see 7/52) + + Feb. 15, 1987..The San Jose Mercury states that the Pentagon has a + "Black Budget" which has become a "Black Hole" for SECRET Projects + spending! It is far bigger than the federal budget for education or + transportation or agriculture or the environment. These Projects are + classified above Top Secret, therefore very few federal investigators + have the security clearances necessary to audit black programs. + + Mar. 12, 1987..U.S. Army Intelligenc letter: The IPU (Interplanetary + Phenomenon Unit) of the Scientific and Technical Branch, Counter + intelligence Directorate, Department of the Army was disestablished + during the 1950's and never reactivated. All of its records were turned + over to the USAF (which can't seem to locate them). This letter was + sent to Timothy Good. (see 5/16/84) + + Sep. 4, 1987...JMP (Justice for Military Personnel) letter sent to + President Ronald Reagan. This letter, verified by: Astronaut L. Gordon + Cooper, Maj. Donald E. Keyhoe (USMC, Ret.), MUFON (Sequin, TX), APRO + (Tucson, AZ) and Just Cause (Coventry, CT) states that:"WE (military + personnel) have been ordered by the CIA to shoot at UFOs, silence + pilots who have seen UFOs, intimidate, harass, jail, confine to + institutions,and destroy military carreers of witnesses to UFO + sightings. We VIOLATED the Freedom of Information Act by hiding + Government documents." (see 7/52,9/24/47) + + Nov. 17, 1986..Near Fort Yukon, Alaska: Japan Airlines flight #1628, a + Boeing 747 freighter, was cruising at 35000 ft. altitude and at 5:11 + p.m. the pilots noticed bright lights 30 degrees to the left and below + them. The UFOs moved up directly in front of the 747 and, said Capt. + Kenju Terauchi, "most unexpectedly, two spaceships stopped in front of + our face, shooting off lights (like numerous exhaust pipes). The inside + cockpit shined brightly and I felt warm in the face." The UFOs appeared + as two rectangular clusters or arrays of light, one above the other. As + the larger UFOs moved away from the 747 Airlines Flight 1628 there + remained two smaller flat white UFOs. At about 5:30 p.m. Capt. Terauchi + checked the pale white light behind their craft visually. He saw a + gigantic "walnet-shaped" UFO (Saturn-shaped) following them. As an + evasive action the Capt. ordered the 747 to turn away from the giant + UFO that was following them, at which time the UFO "spaceship" + disappeared. + + Dec. 21, 1987..CIA letter to Mr. Richard Hall stating the CIA's reasons + for denying certain FOIA requests about himself on the basis of + national defence reasons and must be kept secret. Mr. Hall is an UFO + investigator. + + May 5, 1988....For the third time, publicly, President Ronald Reagan + states that the nations of the earth would unite if we were threatened + by an Alien race from a hostile planet. + + Jun.6, 1988....Letter received from Paul F. Bennewitz describing + Project Beta: Alien base located in New Mexico consisting of type + "Grey" Aliens. NASA CIR film has aided in locating this base and + revealing US Military involvement with the "Greys". Aliens helped US + Military to build a working saucer, Atomic Powered. Two women and a boy + exposed to radiation burns by this saucer. Government is not picking up + the medical bills. "Grey" base is currently abandoned. Another group + called "Orange" is based on the west slope of Mt. Archeleta near "the + Diamond". Goal of Project Beta: to locate, inventory and propose ways + of destroying Alien bases! (see 12/29/80) + + Some sources of information: + + ....."UFO CRASH RETRIEVALS:" series by Leonard H.Stringfield + + A. Status Report ONE, c. + + B. Status Report TWO, "Amassing the Evidence", c.1980,pub. by MUFON, + Sequin, TX. + + C. Status Report THREE, "New Sources, New Data", c.1982, pub. by + Leonard Stringfield. + + ............................................................ + + REFERENCES:(A) ADDRESSES of AUTHORS, RESEARCHERS: + + 1. UFO Photo Archives, P.O. Box 17206, Tucson, Arizona 85710, USA. + (B1-E, p.580) + + 2. STEINMAN,William S., 15043 Rosalita Dr., La Mirada, Calif. 90638, + USA. + + 3. CAUS, Citizens Against UFO Secrecy, 3518 Martha Custis Drive, + Alesandria, Virg. 22302, USA. Larry W. BRYANT, director, + Washington, D.C. Office. + + 4. L/L Research, P.O. Box 5195, Louisville, Kentucky 40205, USA. + + 5. STRINGFIELD, Leonard H., 4412 Grove Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45227, + USA. (B1-E, p.580) + + 6. Flying Saucer Information Center, 7803 Ruanne Court, Pasadena, MD + 21122, USA. + + 7. MUFON, Mutual UFO Network, 103 Oldtowne Rd., Seguin, TX 78155-4099. + (B1-E, p.583) + + 8. Just Cause, PO Box 218, Coventry, CT 06238 USA. + + 9. APRO, 3910 E. Kleindale Road, Tucson, AZ 85712 USA. + + 10. KEYHOE, Major Donald E., (USMC, Ret.)(now deceased) + + 11. MOORE, William L., Publications & Research, 4219 W. Olive St., Ste. + 247, Burbank, CA 91505. (B1-E, p.580) + + 12. FRIEDMAN, Stanton T., PO Box 2246, Berkeley, CA 94702. (B1-E, + p.583) + + 13. BRAY, Arthur, PO Box 5528, Station-F, Ottawa, Ontario K2C 3M1. (B1- + E, p.566) + + 14. MACCABEE, Bruce, PO Box 277, Mount Ranier, MD 20712. + + 15. STEVENS, Wendelle C., 3224 So. Winona Circle, Tucson, AZ 85730. + (B4, p.168) + + 16. McINTYRE, W.F., c/o MARCEN, 123 Olney-Sandy Spring Rd., Sandy + Spring, MD 20860. + + 17. BECKLEY, Timothy G., c/o UFO Review, PO Box 753, New Brunswick, NJ + 08903. + + UFO HISTORY V2.09: Copyright 1988,1991,1992,1993 by PEA Research, Elk + Grove,CA. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2787.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2787.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..76e4aa98 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2787.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +SUBJECT: CHINESE EXPLORE UFOs FILE: UFO2787 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ------------------------------------------ + UFOLOGY NEWS - WIRE + --------------------- + + +------------------------------------------------------------+ + :=START= XMT: 06:54 Mon May 11 EXP: 07:00 Tue May 12 : + : : + :CHINESE SCIENTISTS MEET TO EXPLORE UNIDENTIFIED FLYING : + :OBJECTS : + : : + :BEIJING (MAY 11) UPI - Chinese scientists are huddling this : + :week to explore the latest mysteries of unidentified flying : + :objects, from reports of sightings and abductions to claims : + :that Chinese mystics are in contact with life on other : + :planets. : + : : + :The nearly 200 researchers from around the country are : + :meeting in Beijing at a conference sponsored by the China : + :UFO Research Society, the national organization that : + :coordinates studies in China of ''fei die,'' which in : + :Chinese means ''flying saucer.'' : + : : + :The society, known by its English acronym CURO, is engaged : + :in research that spans the gamut from cold science to the : + :weird and wacky, including efforts to speak to outer space : + :without all the high-tech gadgetry employed by Western : + :researchers. : + : : + :''One of our important missions is to establish a way for : + :people on Earth to communicate with other planets without : + :resorting to modern communications methods,'' said Wang : + :Changting, the research society's affable director. : + : : + :Nearly 5,000 UFO-type sightings have been reported in China : + :since the late 1970s, with all but around 200 later : + :discounted as natural or man- made objects such as weather : + :phenonema and aircraft. : + : : + :The unsolved cases include sightings of floating : + :basketballs, orange-lit washbasins and flying straw hats. : + :Around 40 of those are the ''close encounters'' variety, : + :with reports of contact or kidnappings by vaguely : + :described extraterrestrials. : + : : + :In one case, a teacher in eastern Tianjin reported seeing a : + :shimmering ball overhead as he bicycled around a park at : + :night. He lost consciousness and awoke the next morning at : + :the park gate to find the time on his watch an hour behind : + :the actual time. : + : : + :A month later, he suddenly recalled having been abducted : + :onto a strange craft by two short beings in unidentifiable : + :space suits. : + : : + :Along with those reports, and research into related topics : + :like atmospheric phenomena, some of the 3,500 CURO members : + :nationwide are studying claims by Chinese mystics that they : + :can locate UFOs or communicate with aliens. : + : : + :Some claim to use ''qigong,'' a practice that marshals the : + :Chinese concept of life energy, to make contact. Although : + :qigong is an accepted exercise discipline, adherents also : + :make fantastic claims of supernatural powers or faith : + :healing ability. : + : : + :''Sometimes we cannot mix Western reality and Oriental : + :belief,'' shrugged Wang. ''Of course there are some : + :illogical things involved, but the line between science and : + :mysticism cannot be separated only as illogic.'' : + : : + :Among other areas of research are theoretical and practical : + :studies of space flight, the possibility of life on other : + :planets and the potential impact of UFOs on the Earth's : + :environment. : + : : + :UFO research is taken seriously in China. Several years ago,: + :a UFO sighting over an open air film show in rural south : + :China sparked a stampede by panicked villagers that left two: + :people dead and 300 injured. : + : : + :The Chinese military, which sometimes scrambles air force : + :jets to try to catch a glimpse of UFOs, conducts its own UFO: + :studies and maintains contact with CURO researchers, Wang : + :said. : + : : + :But not even scientists are immune to the more outlandish : + :aspects of UFOs, he added, noting a report by a CURO : + :researcher who claimed he had been ''invited'' aboard a : + :space craft and taken to a planet thousands of light years : + :away. : + : : + :''This man was a scientist, so we don't believe that what he: + :told us is altogether nonsense,'' Wang said. ''But we can't : + :explain it.'' : + : : + :=END= : + +------------------------------------------------------------+ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2788.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2788.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d95b54fe --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2788.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,311 @@ +SUBJECT: CINCINNATI OHIO RESEARCHERS FILE: UFO2788 + + + + + +Hi Everyone + + My name is Dale and I belong to a local group of UFO +researchers in the Cincinnati, Ohio area. + + Besides going out into the field we produce a tv +program. This program is aired on Warner Cable's public +access in Cincinnati. Along with the tv program we have a +newsletter that reflects the program but also provides +information on the UFO phenomenon. + + I hope this is of interest to you all. + + +Vol. 1, No. 1 UFO Update Jan./Feb 1994 + + Premiere Issue + + Welcome to UFO Update newsletter. This publication is not +simply a companion piece for the UFO Update cable access program, +but an informative and -- hopefully -- thought provoking forum on +the UFO phenomenon. + + A regular feature in each edition will be an entry focusing +on the most recent segment of the UFO Update cable program. More +than just a synopsis, each article will provide additional +background information and commentary on the topic discussed. +One can never know enough about UFOs, especially since it is +difficult to find objective reporting in mainstream publications. + + We will also occasionally report on local cases of interest, +even those that turn out to have down-to-earth explanations. It's +important that our readers understand that UFO research requires +patience, persistence and an understanding of general scientific +principles. + + When an interesting UFO book hits the newsstands, we'll let +you know what we think of it. We'll also keep you informed about +other UFO related media and materials. + + Finally, we'd like to hear from you. If you have any +questions or comments regarding UFOs, please send them along. +Even if your letter doesn't get printed, we'll try to drop you a +line in response -- so please include a self-addressed stamped +envelope. Remember, we reserve certain editorial privileges, and +your letter may have to be condensed to fit our limited space. + + Send your correspondence to + + UFO Update Newsletter + 239 East State Road + Cleves, Ohio, 45002-1369 + + A reminder -- If you'd like a response, please include a +self-addressed, stamped envelope. Who knows? If your letters are +a good enough, you might be asked to submit an article! + + What's on Ice at Wright-Pat? + + One of the more enduring rumors of UFO lore has been the +story that alien cadavers are being kept in cold storage at +Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. As crazy as it sounds, there is +some logic behind this claim: Wright-Pat is home to the Foreign +Technologies Department of Air Force intelligence. It's difficult +to imagine a more foreign technology than an extraterrestrial one. + + The story actually has its beginnings in a book written by +Frank Scully in 1950. BEHIND THE FLYING SAUCERS tells of the 1948 +retrieval of one downed UFO near Phoenix, Arizona and two others +that crashed near Aztec, New Mexico. In total, thirty-four alien +bodies were recovered along with the three craft. + + Scully's source was one Silas Newton, who in turn was acting +as a liaison for an enigmatic "Dr. Gee". Subsequent investigation +by J.P. Cahn for TRUE magazine revealed that Newton had been +involved in a number of previous schemes, including fraudulent +stock practices. "Dr. Gee" turned out to be Leo GeBauer. Who owned +a radio and television parts supply house -- a far cry from his +claim to being the "top magnetic research specialist in the United +States." + + With Scully's book exposed and discredited, any reference to +crashed saucers was avoided by the major UFO groups of the 50's: +NICAP and APRO. It was difficult enough to garner objective press +for UFOs without inviting guilt by association. + + Nevertheless, the story persisted. Independent researchers +developed contacts and leads that seemed to lend some credence to +the hearsay. By the mid and late 70's, investigator Len +Stringfield had compilation impressive file of witnesses who had +firsthand knowledge of alien bodies and/or crashed saucers. Much +of this data was released by Stringfield in a number of status +reports issued over the last fifteen years. + + The watershed event came in 1978 when Col. Jesse Marcel, Sr. +was interviewed on the old IN SEARCH OF... television program. He +told of his task, as intelligence officer attached to Roswell Army +Air Force Base, of collecting strange material from a ranch in +Corona, New Mexico in early July 1947. Marcel described the +substance as being like nothing found on Earth. This observation +was later supported by Jessie Marcel Jr. and Bill Brazel -- whose +father, Mac, discovered the debris and notified the air base. + + The collected scraps were taken back to the Roswell air field +where they were loaded on to a transport plane and flown to +Wright-Patterson. Accompanying the crates of fragments were three +or four oblong boxes inside which were concealed alien corpses. +These had been found some miles west of the debris field, along +with the rest of the fallen saucer. + + In 1980 THE ROSWELL INCIDENT was published. Although flawed, +Charles Berlitz and William Moore's book broke through the Scully +stigma and established a degree of credibility for the crashed +saucer reports. A decade later, Kevin Randle and Donald Schmitt +interviewed over two hundred people in compiling UFO CRASH AT +ROSWELL, solidifying the scenario even more. Stanton Friedman +and Don Berliner came along a year later with CRASH AT CORONA, +which argued that a second saucer -- part of a midair UFO +collision -- came down on the Plains of San Augustin. Clearly, +the circumstances behind the Roswell UFO crash mystery are among +the most fully researched in ufology. + + But where are the alien bodies now? As Part of in the IN +SEARCH OF... investigation, a trip was made to Building (Hangar) +18 at Wright-Patterson. As could be expected, when the film crew +got there the cupboard was bare. Interestingly enough, however, +was that Building 18 housed a deep freeze unit. Jet engines were +tested there to see how they'd hold up against the frigid +temperatures of the Aleutian Islands. Not a bad place to keep a +few extraterrestrial carcasses. + + If there ever were alien bodies, the almost forty-seven years +since their recovery has probably seen them distributed widely to +countless research facilities. In many cases, the examiners probably had no +idea what it was they were ordered to classify. An oath of silence that +carried unspoken threats held the questions at bay. Such would be secrets +taken to the grave. + + Local Connection + + There is a local string tied to this mystery. In 1959 Charles +Wilhelm heard the strange confession of his neighbor who was dying of +cancer. + + A young man at the time, Charles had been hired by the woman +to cut her grass that summer and had earned her confidence. As death +approached, she took Charles aside and told him a secret she was unwilling to +take to the grave. + + Accordingly, the woman held a clerical post with Top Security +Clearance at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and was often charged +with cataloguing equipment and supplies. In the course of these duties +she had seen, concealed within a secret hangar, two saucer-shaped craft. +One of the objects was intact, while the other was damaged. She further +claimed that the bodies of two small beings were being preserved in another +secret building and that she had handled their autopsy reports. + + Then in 1966, Charles Wilhelm obtained apparent verification +of his late neighbor's revelations from a friend of his in the Army +Reserve. This man's father was once assigned to Project Blue Book and held +high security clearance. Nearing death, the father admitted to his son +that two disc-shaped craft -- one intact, the other damaged -- were +secured in a hangar at Wright-Patterson. Additionally, he acknowledge that a +total of four humanoid bodies were kept preserved in chemicals. + + The confessions were made well before the current Roswell +investigations were started, but they tally well with what was +allegedly recovered from that New Mexico ranch so many years earlier. + + Kecksburg + + In the late afternoon hours of December 9, 1965, something +fell from the sky and landed in a wooded ravine just west of Kecksburg, +Pennsylvania. There was concern that it might be a small airplane, +and the fire department responded to the scene. Four teams of rescuers +combed the area and eventually something was found. It wasn't an airplane, it +just may have been something not of this world. + + Shortly after the firefighters made their find, a detail from +the Air Force's 662nd Radar Squandron, based near Pittsburgh, arrived +to seal off the area. Moore troops and a flatbed truck soon arrived and the +object was remove from the ravine and spirited away. Stan Gordon, MUFON +state director for Pittsburg who has studied the case for over ten years, +has gathered goverment documents that indicate that as many as 212 +military personnel were on the scene that night. + + According to eyewitnesses the object appeared bell- or +acorn-shaped amd measured ten feet long by eight feet wide. It was bronze +colored and adorned with a collar near its rounder end. On the collar were +etched strange figures that resembeled no earthly language. + + The original, official explanation was that the Kecksburg +object was a meteorite. Clearly, the eye-witness descriptions eliminate +this rationale. + + A more recent identification has been offered by NASA +scientist, James Oberg. Although there is no record of such an event, he +contends that the object was a Russian payload. The Air Force arrived to take it +away so that its heat shield could be analyzed. One would also hope they +studied what made it shatterproof, too! After all, an accidental re-entry +is a high velocity event, and any manmade object would either burn-up in +transit or disintegrate upon impact with the earth. + + Both the meteorite and Russian satellite theories are ruled +out by another interesting point: the object flew no faster than a small +airplane and made no fewer than four sharp course changes before touching +down in Kecksburg. The descent was powered and controlled. If it had been +a manned Soviet capsule, we would have been accused of somehow shooting it +down to steal Russian space science secrets! Sorry, Dr. Oberg, try again. + + So, what did become of the Kecksburg UFO? Most likely it was +shipped to Wright-Patterson where the Foreign Technologies Division +would try to take it apart. There is, in fact some testimony that might +bear that out. + + Kecksburg Connection + + On September 19, 1990, NBC's UNSOLVED MYSTERIES aired a +re-enactment of the Kecksburg incident. It was a evenhanded treatment that +featured comments from eyewitnesses and Stan Gordon. Soon after the +broadcast, Gordon was overwhelmed with calls from viewers who thought they +might add some information to the case. One of the callers was an Ohio man +who claimed to have seen the acorn shaped object a few days after the Kecksburg +event while deliverying bricks to property adjacent to Wright-Patterson. + + Gordon passsed this story on to a local investigator Len Stringfield. +Stringfield, assisted by researcher Brian Thompson, pursued the case and +interviewed the witness. At the time, the source preferred to go by his +first name: Myron. +The followinf is a summary of his testimony: + + Myron and his cousin, "JS", delivered a large inventory of special +glazed bricks to Wright-Patterson just a few days after the Kecksburg +event. Curiously, the order came through the Navy. The bricks were to be +used to construct a double-thick, lead lined structure 50 x 80 feet in size, +inside an already existing red brick building. + After following a jeep bearing an officer (possibly a general) and a +driver to the site, they were left to unload the bricks. Myron noticed that +there were several men dressed in what resembled decontamination suits +scurrying about. He also reconized the Navy officer who had selected and +ordered the special brick. After some time, Myron took a break from his +labors. His curosity got the best of him, so he decided to have a look at +what was so important. The security officers had apparently grown used to +Myron's presence and failed to check his approach soon enough. + + Although his glimpse was brief before being hustled back to the brick +delivery by a gaurd, Myron claimed to have seen plenty. There, inside the +building and supported by metal scaffolding was a bell-shapped object about +ten feet tall. + + Although Myron describes the object as bell-shapped, it was his viewing +of the UNSOLVED MYSTERIES program that caused him to contact Stan Gordan. In +fact, when asked by Stringfield if "acorn-shaped" was a suitable description, +Myron agreed it was. + + Myron's story is supported by his cousin, JS, who was able to add his +own observation. + + The day before he worked with Myron, JS had made a solo run to +Wright-Patterson with the first load of bricks. He recalled seeing a flatbed +trailer near the red brick building. It's carge, although convered with a +tarp, was "liberty bell" shaped and stood eight to ten feet tall. + + Clearly, there is a strong indication that Myron and JS witnessed the +arrival and intial analysis of the Kecksburg object at Wright-Patterson. +But there are some questions that must be asked: Why were the bricks ordered +through the Navy? + + If the Navy was the investigative body, why wasn't the object taken to a +naval base? + + Was this action directed by the Joint Chief of Staff? + +The implications are astounding and suggest that the Kecksburg object was +considered by the U.S. military as a violator of American air space. + + For an in-depth examination of the Kecksburg episode, the reader is +encouraged to consult UFO CRASH/RETRIEVALS: THE INNER SANCTUM by Leonard +Stringfield. THE ROSWELL INCIDENT, UFO CRASH AT ROSWELL, and CRASH AT CORONA +are all still available through local bookstores. + + NEXT ISSUE: + THE FACE ON MARS + + Acknowledgements + + This modest periodical was made possible through the efforts +of serious researchers dedicated to the scientific study of UFOs. +Special thanks goes to Jerry and Peggy Black, Pat Packard, Brian Scow +and Bob Leibold. + + UFO Update Newsletter + Terry Endres - General editor + Illustrator + Bill Owen - Contributing artist: page 1 + Kim Endres - Patient spouse + + Text 1994 by Terry Endres + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2789.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2789.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a66b964d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2789.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,146 @@ + SUBJECT: THE UNDERWATER CIVILIZATION THEORY FILE: UFO2789 + + + + + + From UFOs and the Limits of Science by Ronald D. Story c. 1981 + + Reproduced for educational purposes only. + + The Underwater Civilization Theory + + Reports of unknown objects entering or leaving large bodies of water or + proceeding through them have been made from time to time and have been + labeled unidentified submarine objects (USOs). Numerous theorists have + consequently speculated that secret UFO bases might be located on the + ocean beds, far from man's activities and possible detection. By moving + underwater, UFOs would have access to all continents, and, by + proceeding up major rivers and tribituaries, could reach many inland + locations without risking detection by atmospheric flight. + + Vehicles capable of interstellar flight, some proponents of the + extraterrestial hypothesis point out, would certainly be able to + withstand the pressures and stresses of deep oceanic environments. This + point has some validity, and it can also be stated that some of the + most remote areas of the planet are located in parts of the southern + Pacific and Indian oceans, providing easy access from the atmosphere + with minimum chance of visual or electronic detection. + + At the same time, it could be asked why the UFO operators go to such + lengths to remain unobserved, only to display their vehicles so + blatently in such populated areas as the U.S. and Europe. + + One of the proponents of the Underwater Civilization Theory was the + late naturalist, Ivan T. Sanderson, who proposed not only that an + extraterrestial civilization could be using the ocean depths, but that + a native civilization, one having evolved underwater long before man, + could also be doing so. He concluded, in fact, that "it is much more + likely that both suggestions apply." Although he provided no sources or + references, Sanderson stated that more than 50 percent of all UFO + reports concerned objects over, coming from, or going toward (or into) + bodies of water. + + Related to the "Underwater Civilization" idea for UFOs is the popular + explanation for the disappearances of ships and planes in the so-called + Bermuda Triangle. + + During the past thirty years, more than 100 ships and planes with more + than 1,000 persons on board have supposedly disappeared - some say + "mysteriously, without a trace" - in an area variously dubbed "The + Bermuda Triangle," "The Devil's Triangle," "The Hoodoo Sea," "The + Triangle of Death," and "The Graveyard of the Atlantic." It is actually + a large area of undefinable shape around and including the triangle + formed by Florida, Bermuda, and Puerto Rico, where sea and air traffic + is said to be the greatest. For reasons which are to follow, some + writers have "theorized" a UFO connection to explain the "strange" + disappearances. + + The Bermuda Triangle-UFO link to missing vessels was perhaps first + hinted at in the 1930s by Charles Fort (1874-1932), who, as his + biographer Loren Gross writes: "played with the notion that mysterious + vanishments of ocean vessels and their crews...may be due to wanton + seizures by spacemen." Two decades later, astronomer Morris K. Jessup + (1900-1959), in his book, The Case for the UFO, wrote: "To attempt to + postulate motive for space inhabitants kidnapping crews from ships..is + in the realm of pure speculation. On the other hand...our space friends + would want to know what has happened to us since they left, or what has + happened to us since they put us down here. Again, there is always the + possibility that the open seas provide an easy catching place." + + More recently, author Charles Berlitz capitalized on the triangle and a + possible UFO connection by quoting in his best-selling book, The + Bermuda Triangle, his friend, J. Manson Valentine, who reported several + UFO sightings in the area. Berlitz also quoted a reporter by the name + of Art Ford, who claimed that a final radio transmission, picked up by + a ham operator from one of the doomed pilots (in this case, Lieutenant + Charles Taylor, flight leader of the five Navy torpedo bombers that + disappeared on December 5, 1945), contained the warning: "Don't come + after me...they look like they are from outer space." But according to + a transcript from the Navy Inquiry Board, what Taylor actually said + was" :I know where I am now. I'm at twenty-three hundred feet. Don't + come after me." + + Also, there are claims of unusual electromagnetic effects occurring in + the triangle, a common feature of many UFO reports. Actually, none of + the "magnetic anomalies" reported in the area appear to be true. + Reports of compass needles spinning crazily have never been + substantiated. The fact that the compass points to true north from the + triangle does not cause confusion, but rather, simplifies navigation. + The compass points to true north from many other places in the world. + The only part of the triangle from which it does point directly north + is at the southern tip of Florida. Those who claim that the north- + pointing compass is strange or confusing lack even the most fundamental + knowledge of magnetism, compasses, or navigation. The presence of a + "space\time warp" (whatever that means) is, again, unsubstantiated. + + Popular author John Wallace Spencer in a revised version of his book, + Limbo of the Lost, offered a provocative theory. He reasoned that: + "Since a 575-foot vessel with 39 crew member disappearing 50 miles + offshore in the Gulf of Mexico, and commercial airliners disappearing + while coming in for a landing cannot happen according to earthly + standards and yet are happening, I am forced to conclude that they are + actually being taken away from our planet for a variety of reasons." + + In a 1975 version of the book, retitled Limbo of the Lost - Today, + Spencer modified his UFO theory so that the extraterrestials were no + longer carting the captives away from Earth but were taking them to + hidden underwater facilities, where the ETs conducted experiments on + the earthlings and their machinery. However, Spencer offered no + evidence that UFOs had been present or were even sighted in conjunction + with any of the incidents he described. Consequently, many think that + these authors, in order to attempt to make a bigger story, are + "dressing up" their accounts by including UFOs. + + The UFO-capture theme was again used in the movie Close Encounters of + the Third Kind: The five Navy torpedo bombers that disappeared in 1945 + had been taken aboard a gigantic "mother ship"; all of its captives + (unaged over the years) were released at the end of the movie to + demonstrate that the extraterrestials are friendly after all. + + In reality, the "Bermuda Triangle Mystery" has been shown to be a sham + -an accumalation of careless research, misconceptions, sensationalism, + and downright falsification of data - and is so regarded by most + leading UFO researchers. For example, the 575-foot ship that Spencer + claimed had disappeared was found within two weeks, sunken in shallow + water. Volatile fumes in the holds had exploded, nearly tearing the + ship in two. The airliner that Spencer said had disappeared while on a + landing approach was a chartered DC-3 that lost its way at night in + 1948, out of sight of land, because of radio navigational problems. + Thorough investigations of other incidents by Larry Kusche (author of + The Bermuda Triangle Mystery - Solved) led to similiar down-to-earth + explanations. + + According to the April 1978 issue of J. Allen Hynek's International UFO + Reporter: "the Bermuda Triangle stories...are NOT relayed by the pilots + or sailors who experience them; they are the fraudulent literary + distortions of a small handful of authors. All triangle mysteries so + far have been examined. Would that the more baffling UFOs (which are + themselves the mysteries) were so easily resolved." + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2790.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2790.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a27a7972 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2790.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +SUBJECT: HOME GROWN SIGHTING FILE: UFO2790 + + + + + + + Fri 10 Jan 92 22:06 + By: Bob Fletcher + To: All + Re: Where is Valentich + --------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Hello All! + + Whilst this is a home grown sighting, there has been much written on + the Valentich disappearance on 21 October 1978. Up to now most of what + I have read has been from papers and the occasional debate by the UFO + community. I understand that Richard Haines did write a book ?'The + Melbourne Incident' but I have not been able to get hold of this. + + I have just been reading a commentary by British Ufologist Nigal + Watson. Watson is noted for his sober reporting of UFO events. He + raised a number of points that I was not aware of and I would like + others to comment on this. + + a. Frederick filed only a one-way flight plan to King Island although + he had indicated his intention to return the same evening. + + b. He made no arrangements for the landing lights at King Island to be + turned on. + + c. Police found no one who had arranged to sell crayfish to Frederick - + the stating intention for his flight. + + d. The aircrafts long range fuel tank was filled to its 303 litre + capacity. + + e. Cape Otway lighthouse keepers and Bass Strait fishermen did not + report seeing any light aircraft in the vicinity. + + f. Despite ideal conditions, at no time was the aircraft plotted on + radar. + + g. Melbourne Police received reports of a light aircraft making a + mysterious landing not far from Cape Otway at the same time as + Valentich's disappearance. + + h. Although Bass Strait - and later Cape Otway and King Island - were + searched for signs of wreckage, nothing was found. + + i. He had $300 cash on his person. (A lot of money in '78) + + j. He arranged to meet his girlfriend, Ms Rushton on the same evening + at 7.30pm - a date he couldn't have possibly kept. + + k. Frederick's father claimed that, 8 or 10 months before his + disappearance" 'My son told me he had seen a large brilliantly lit + object in the western sky which was flying at a tremendous speed from + south to north'. His father also stated that Frederick firmly believed + in the existence of UFO's. Yet no mention was made of a UFO during his + last radio communication. + + l. On the tape recording of the last conversation with the young pilot, + there was no hint of panic in his voice. + + The above points seem to have been forgotten by the many ufologist that + have discussed Frederick's "Abduction" + + So what did happen to Valentich and why. It is not unknown for people + to disappear for no apparent reason and later to assume to totally new + identity. There are many disappearances and we cannot and must not + assume that UFO's and ET's are responsible. + + I would like some comments on the above. + + Bob... + + REFERENCE: + + Enigma Variations,Nigal Watson, Fortean Times #30, London + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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COLOR + + A - 003 -- UFO'S AND THE MYSTERY OF ANIMAL MUTILATIONS: + A Presidential Briefing Paper on UFO'S. + (7/88) 58 MIN COLOR + + A - 004 -- THE SKELETON-KEY EFFECT: Unlocking The Secrets of Alien + Abductions. (7/88) 58 MIN. COLOR + + A - 004-a- INSIDE EDITION: Alabame UFO Sighting - Feb. 21, 1989 + Fyfe, Alabama + + A - 005 -- SUMIT UNIVERSITY FORUM - FIVE PART UFO DISCUSSION: + Speakers: Stanton Friedman; Linda M. Howe; Bruce + Maccabee; Bud Hopkins. Host: Elizabeth Clare + Prophet + + A - 005-a- 1. Anatomy of a Cover-up + 2. Abducted by Aliens: The Common Threads Of Experience + 3. Crashed Saucer and Government Cover-up At Roswell: + The Secrets of Operation MJ-12 + 4. UFO'S and The Mystery of Animal Mutilations; + A Presidential Briefing Paper on UFO'S + 5. The Skeleton-Key Effect: Unlocking The Secrets + Of Alien Abductions (7/88) 3 1/2 Hrs. Color + + A - 005-b- USA TODAY: Three Part UFO Special (3/17 - 20/89) 15 MIN + + A - 006-a- George Fawcett Lecture and Workshop (3/19 - 20/88) + Aprox. 3 1/2 Hr. Color + -b- Central Weekend - BRITISH T.V.(9/5/86) 45 MIN COLOR + -c- Interviewing The UFO Witness 40 MIN. COLOR + -d- NOVA: THE CASE OF THE UFO (10/12/82) 58 MIN. COLOR + -e- USA TODAY - 2 Parts (3/17 - 20/89) 10 MIN. COLOR + -f- BOB RABY INTERVIEW (Partial) Aprox. 20 MIN. COLOR + + A - 007-a- KMO-TV TOWN MEETING; Seattle, Washington (1982) 50 MIN. + COLOR + -b- UNIDIFIED FLYING OBJECT (1956?) BLACK/WHITE 1HR.28 MIN. + -c- UFO REPORT # 3 - AL FRY Aprox. 2 HR. COLOR + -d- WALT ANDRUS; Director of MUFON: ARKANSAS UFO CONFRENCE + (FEB.,1988) 1 HR. 53 MIN. COLOR + -e- BURKE VIDEO SHOWCASE (5/1/85) 9 MIN. COLOR + + A - 008-a- UFO'S ARE REAL (1987) 1 HR. 33 MIN. COLOR + -b- WHITLEY STREIBER; PEOPLE ARE TALKING (1988) + Aprox 20 MIN. COLOR + + A - 009-a- CONTACT: Eduard Albert "Billy" Meier Case (1982) + 90 MIN. COLOR + -b- GARY COLLINS, HOUR MAGAZINE (11/11/88) APROX. 45 MIN. + COLOR + -c- STRAIGHT TALK: Scott Ross (4/7/89) 45 - 50 MIN. COLOR + + A - 010 -- THE OSCAR JORDAN ABDUCTION CASE (9/28/89) MIKE CHRISTOL; + INVESTIGATOR - 4 1/2 HR. COLOR + + A - 011-a- DOES THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAVE A UFO? 39 MIN (7/18/1988) + -b- LARGE COLLECTION OF UFO FILMS FROM 1950'S - 1980'S + -c- UFO'S AND HOLLYWOOD (7/18/1988) 11 MIN. COLOR + -d- HOW TO GIVE A UFO LECTURE: (Updated Version Jan. 1989) + 3 HRS. 58 MIN. COLOR + -e- ARE UFO ALIENS ALIVE IN NEVADA, USA? 39 MIN. (7/18/1988) + + A - 012-a- HOW TO GIVE A UFO LECTURE IN YOUR HOME TOWN: (7/18/1988) + Part 1. Introduction - "How To Start" - 35 MIN. + Part 2. "The UFO Lecture" - 3 HR. 20 MIN. COLOR + -b- THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF UFO FILMS EVER + 28 MIN. (7/18/1988) COLOR + -c- THE ROSWELL CRASH ( (7/18/1988) 39 MIN. COLOR + + A - 013-a- UFO'S AND THE BIBLE - Rev. Barry H. Downing (10/8-9/88) + 59 MIN. COLOR + -b- GOVERNMENT UFO COVER-UP CONTINUES - Larry Fawcett + (10/8-9/88) 1 HR. 4 MIN. COLOR + -c- BROOMFIELD COLORADO UFO SHOW: UFO's And The Inner Earth + (10/28/1988) 1 HR. COLOR + + A - 014-a- INTRUDERS, THE LATEST RESULTS - BUD HOPKINS + (10/8-9/1988) 1HR. 23 MIN. COLOR + WALLY GEROGE - "ALIENS ON EARTH" - VIDEO DAVE + (2/89) 6 MIN. COLOR + ANATOMY OF AN ALIEN - DAVID JACOBS, PHD + (10/8-9/1988) 1 HR. 36 MIN. COLOR + + A - 015-a- UFO REPORT # 1 (AL FRY) 2HR. 14 MIN. COLOR + -b- UFO: THE BENTWATERS INCIDENT (CNN) (1988) 21 MIN. COLOR + -c- (1) ELIZABETH CLARE PROPHET INTERVIEWS ZECHARIA SITCHIN + ON THE 12TH PLANET (1986) PART # 1. 57 MIN. COLOR + (2) ELIZABETH CLARE PROPHET INTERVIEWS ZECHARIA SITCHIN + ON THE 12TH PLANET (1986) PART # 2. 58 MIN. COLOR + -d- INTERVIEWING THE UFO WITNESS (MICHIGAN MUFON; DAN WRIGHT) + 40 MIN. COLOR + -e- CALL RAIFORD; GEORGE FAWCETT (CHARLOTTE TV 36) + (10/6/1985) 49 MIN. COLOR + -f- CAROLINA CAMERA (TV Interview With George Fawcett) + (7/22/1981) 5 MIN. COLOR + -g- ROUTE # 9; GEORGE FAWCETT (LINCOLNTON, North Carolina) + 5 MIN. COLOR + + A - 016-a- UFO: TOP SECRET (1986) 1 HR. 36 MIN. COLOR + -b- THE COSMIC CONSPIRACY (19 ) 47 MIN. COLOR + -c- THE TRUTH ABOUT UFO'S & E.T. (1982) 1 HR. 22 MIN. COLOR. + -d- MYSTERIES OF THE GODS: WILLIAM SHATNER + (1976) 1 HR. 27 MIN. COLOR + -e- A STRANGE HARVEST: LINDA M. HOWE (1980) 52 MIN. COLOR. + + A - 017-a- A STRANGE HARVEST - Linda M. Howe (1980) 60 MIN. COLOR + -b- THAT'S INCREDIBLE : VAL JOHNSON UFO/AUTO COLLISION + 15 MIN. (2/4/1977) COLOR + -c- BEHIND MORT DOWNEYS UFO SHOW: "What Really Happened!!!" + DR. GENE MUNDY - SPEAKER + LONG ISLAND UFO CONFRENCE (10/19/1988) + 35 MIN. COLOR + -d- THE JOEL MARTIN SHOW: JOEL MARTIN & THE MEN IN BLACK + (10/19/1988) 26 MIN. COLOR + + A - 018-a- UFOLOGY: AT THE TURNING POINT - William Moore; Bud + Hopkins; Stanton Friedman (1989) 2 HRS. COLOR + -b- HIGHLIGHTS OF THE 1988 ARKANSAS UFO CONFRENCE: COLOR + EUREKA SPRINGS, ARK. (4/25-26/1988) APRROX 4 HRS. + -c- VIDEO OF UFO IN JAPAN (7/8/89) APROX. 1 MIN. COLOR + + A - 019-a- CHARIOTS OF THE GODS 1 HR. 25 MIN. COLOR + -b- MYSTERIES FROM BEYOND EARTH 1 HR. 34 MIN. COLOR + -c- BOB RABY INTERVIEW (1/9/1988) 1HR. 43 MIN. COLOR + -d- PSYCHIC PHENOMENON: The World Beyond; J. Allen Hynek + (2 Programs) 75 MIN. COLOR + -e- 5 P.M. MAGAZINE: John Lear and Bill Moore + + A - 020-a- THE UFO EXPERIENCE 1 HR. 49 MIN. COLOR + -b- UFO SYNDROME 1 HR. 35 MIN. COLOR + -c- LLOYD ARNOLD INTERVIEW BY KEN DEMARY (DENVER, COL) + (7/10/1988) 1HR. 32 MIN. COLOR + -d- BOB RABY INTERVIEW (8/9/1987) 25-28 MIN. COLOR + -e- PRESONAL MESSAGE FROM DANNY BARGER - TO MIKE CHRISTOL + LINCOLNTON, N.C. (7/89) 15 MIN. COLOR. + -f- MORE FROM TOWN MEETING, (1987) (60 MIN. MINUS) COLOR + + A - 021-a- UFO CONTACT SEMINAR - Billy Meier Story + LECTURER: Randy Winters (11/14/1987) + APROX. 2 HRS. COLOR + -b- THE FORCE BEYOND (1981) 1 HR. 26 MIN. COLOR + -c- UFO'S, WHAT'S GOING ON? (HBO) (1985) 58 MIN. COLOR + + A - 022 -- DOWNSTATE NEW YORK MUFON UFO CONFRENCE (6/3/1989) + DR. GARY LEVINE, BILL KNELL, BUD HOPKINS + ANTONIO HUNEEUS. 1 HR. 50 MIN. COLOR + + A - 023-a- LONG ISLAND UFO'S + -b- WESTCHESTER & NYC UFO ENCOUNTERS + -c- INTERVIEWING THE WITHESS (MICHIGAN MUFON; DAN WRIGHT) + 40 MIN. COLOR + + A - 024-a- CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE 4TH KIND IN NY & CT: COLOR + PHILLIP IMBROGNO (10/8-9/1988) 1 HR. 12 MIN. + -b- BEYOND CLEAR INTENT: LARRY FAWCETT (10/8-9/1988) + 1 HR. 4 MIN. COLOR + -c- FAMOUS UFO PHOTOS: BRUCE MACCABEE (10/8-9/1988) + 55 MIN. COLOR + -d- MY ABDUCTION BY ER'S: DEBRA TOMEY (KATHEY DAVIS) + (10/8-9/1988) 30 MIN. COLOR + + A - 025-a- U.F.O. CHRONICLE: ANTONIO HUNEEUS (1989) + 2 HR. COLOR (2 TAPES - SP) TAPE # 1 + -b- U.F.O. CHRONICLE: ANTONIO HUNEEUS (1989) + 30 MIN. COLOR (SP) TAPE # 2 + -c- CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO'S; LARRY BRYANT + (8/29/1989) 7 MIN. COLOR + -d- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: UFO CHRASH AT ROSWELL, N.M. + (9/20/1989) 23 MIN. COLOR + -e- THE JOAN RIVERS SHOW: PEOPLE WHO SEE UFO'S + (12/7/1989) 25 MIN. COLOR + + A - 026 -- LET'S LEARN BASIC UFO INVESTIGATION (1989) + Written and Narrated by Bill Knell + 90 MIN. COLOR + + A - 027 -- THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT: + Preston Nichols, Alfred Bialek, and Duncan Cameron. + (IMPROMPTU LECTURE/QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH + SLIDES) (1989) 3 HRS. 20 MIN. COLOR + + A - 028 -- INSIDE REPORT: + -a- CATTLE MUTILATIONS AND UFO'S + -b- OGGO POGO MONSTER IN CANADIAN LAKE + -c- BIG FOOT CHASER + -d- INVASION UFO: (MOVIE WHICH FOLLOWS ALONG THE LINES + OF ALTERNATIVE 003) + + A - 029-a- "UFO'S THE BEST EVIDENCE: (11/89) GEORGE KNAPP + (KLAS TV, LAS VEGAS, NEV.) INCLUDES INTERVIEW + WITH ROBERT LAZAR AND AREA 51 AT GROOM LAKE + 1 HR. 35 MIN. COLOR + -b- VIDEO TAPING OF REAL ET? + -c- HARD COPY: GOVERNMENT COVERUP + -d- "BEST EVIDENCE" HIGHLIGHTS + + A - 030-a- UFO SPECIAL: "THE BEST EVIDENCE" (11/89) GEORGE KNAPP + (KLAS TV, LAS VEGAS, NEV) INCLUDES INTERVIEW + WITH ROBERT LAZAR AND AREA 51 AT GROOM LAKE + (FIRST COUPLE MINUTES MISSING) 1 HR. 33 MIN COLOR + -b- PLEADIAN CONNECTION: RANDY WINTERS ON BILLY MEIER. + (1989) 1 HR. 30 MIN. COLOR + -c- SCIENCE REPORT (BRITISH TV): REPORT ON ALTERNATIVE 003 + (POOR CONDITION, BUT VIEWABLE, SOUND FAIR TO GOOD) + (JUNE 20, 1977) 51 MIN. + -d- THE JUPITER MENACE: DEALS WITH ALIGNMENT OF PLANETS AND + EARTH CHANGES COLOR + + A - 031-a- LLOYD ARNOLD INTERVIEW: UFO CONTACTS AND PSYCHIC + PHENOMENA; FIRST SIGHTING 1915 (SUMER 1988) + 1 HR. 32 MIN. COLOR + -b- UFO INTERVIEW: LLOYD ARNOLD AND KEN DEMARY; CHANNEL 10 + BROOMFIELD, COL. (1988) 1 HR. COLOR + -c- DENVER UFO SOCIETY; KEN DEMARY, CHANEL 10: INNER EARTH + 1 HR. COLOR + -d- DENVER UFO SOCIETY: GUEST SPEAKERS; MARY LYNN NOBLE + AND ROBERT ACHZEHNU; ABDUCTIONS (9/23/1988) + 2 HR. COLOR + -e- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES; ABDUCTION AND MISSING TIME AT + CAPE COD, MASS. (11/30/88) 23 MIN. COLOR + + A -032 -- 1989 MUFON INTERNATIONAL UFO SYMPOSIUM - JUNE 30 - JULY + 1 & 2 LAS VEGAS, NEVADA TAPE # 1 OF 2 + -a- JOHN LEAR COLOR + -b- BILL COOPER COLOR + -c- BILL ENGLISH COLOR + -d- DON ECKERT COLOR + + + A -033 -- 1989 MUFON INTERNATIONAL UFO SYMPOSIUM - JUNE 30 - JULY + 1 & 2 LAS VEGAS, NEVADA TAPE # 2 OF 2 + -a- STANTON T. FRIEDMAN - 1 HR 07 MIN COLOR + -b- WILLIAM L. MOORE - 1 HR 56 MIN COLDR + -c- JACQUES VALLEE - 57 MIN COLOR + -d- JOHN E. BRANDENBURG - 1 HR 18 MIN COLOR + -e- PANEL DISCUSSION; Q/A 51 MIN COLOR + + A -034 -a- UNEXPLAINED MYSTERIES: GULF BREEZE, FLA. UFO REPORT + (1-5-1988) 15 MIN. COLOR + -b- UFO COVER-UP LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. + (10-14-1988) 1 HR. 31 MIN. COLOR + -c- INCREDIBLE SUNDAY: MIB'S (MEN IN BLACK) + JOHN KEEL, BETTY LUCA (5-14-1989) 7 MIN COLOR + + A -035 -a- CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO'S; LARRY BRIANT + (8-29-1989) 7 MIN COLOR + -b- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (SEASON PREMIER) + "ALMOST TOMORROW; The Second Wave" + (12-1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -c- A CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO LANDING IN RUSSIAN PARK + MICHAEL C. LUCKMAN - DIR., N.Y. CENTER FOR + UFO RESEARCH (12-1989) 10 MIN. COLOR + -d- A CURRENT AFFAIR: UFO SIGHTING IN CENTERVILLE, + IOWA; CAROL DRAKE, RESIDENT + (12-1989) 5 MIN. COLOR + -e- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 2) + "NO DIRECTION HOME" + (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -f- CBS NEWS REPORT: RUSSIAN UFO LANDING + (12-1989) 1 MIN 15 SEC. COLOR + -g- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 3) + "DOOMSDAY" (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -h- UNSOLVED MYSTERIES: TEXAS GHOST LIGHTS + (10-25-1989) 9 MIN COLOR + -i- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 4) + "TERMINAL ROCK" + (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -j- THE COUSTEAU ODYSSEY: "CALPSO'S SEARCH FOR + ATLANTAS - PART # 1 + (1978) 1 HR. COLOR + -k- A CURRENT AFFAIR : TRIBUTE TO ELVIS'S VISION + OF MUSIC VIDEOS - IMPERSONATOR PERFORMS + BRUCE SPRINGSTEIN'S - "I'M ON FIRE" + (12-1989) 2 MIN 45 SEC. COLOR + -l- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 5) + "BREEDING GROUND" (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + -m- WAR OF THE WORLDS T.V. SERIES (EPESODE # 6) + "SEFT OF EMUN" (1989) 45 MIN COLOR + + A -036 --- UFO'S WHAT'S GOING ON - HBO (1985) 58 MIN COLOR + + A -037 --- PHIL DONAHU SHOW - WHITLEY STRIEBER, JOYCE DEWITT, + RICHARD LAVELIN & BRIAN O'LEARY + (1988?) 45 MIN. COLOR + + A -038 --- 34 VARIOUS UFO PROGRAMS FROM 1 MIN TO 49 MIN. DURATION + STORIES INCLUDE: CHARLES HICKSON; WENDELLE + STEVENS; J. ALLEN HYNEK; BUD HOPKINS, ETC. ETC. + (19?? - 1989) 6 HR. COLOR + + A -039 -a- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 1 (DEC 5 - 6 -1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -b- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 2 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -c- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 3 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -d- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 4 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -e- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 5 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + -f- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 6 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + + A -040 -a- J. RANDOLPY WINTERS' "UFO 201" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + WEEKEND PART # 7 (DEC 5 - 6 - 1987) + 2 HR COLOR + COMPLETE PROGRAM: 14 HR. WORK BOOK AVAILABLE + BUT NOT INCLUDED. INQUIRE IF INTERESTED. + ===================================================== + -b- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS': UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + (NOV 14, 1987) 4 HRS COLOR + -c- THE FORCE BEYONE: DOCUMENTARY; UFO'S + (1981) 1 HR 26 MIN COLOR + -d- UFO'S, WHAT'S GOING ON - HBO (1985) 58 MIN COLOR + -e- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS "UFO 101" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + PART # 1 (NOV 7, 1987) 2 HR COLOR + -f- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS "UFO 101" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + PART # 2 (NOV 7, 1987) 2 HR COLOR + -g- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS "UFO 101" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + PART # 1 (NOV 14, 1987) 2 HR COLOR + -h- J. RANDOLPH WINTERS' "UFO 101" UFO CONTACT SEMINAR + PART # 2 (NOV 14, 1987) 2 HR COLOR + + A -041 --- OMNI: "THE REAL E.T.; S . E. T. I" + (1988) APROX. 40 MIN. COLOR + + + A -042 --- "THE OUTER SPACE CONNECTION" DOCUMENTARY + HOST: ROD STERLING + (1975) 1 HR. 34 MIN COLOR + + A -043 --- "UFO JOURNALS" (1978) 1 HR 32 MIN COLOR + + A -044 --- NOVA: "UFO'S: ARE WE ALONE? The Truth Behind UFO + Sightings" (1988) 1 HR COLOR + A -045 --- "ATTACK FROM OUTER SPACE" Are We Alone In The Universe?" + (1986) 1 HR 36 MIN COLOR + + A -046 -a- "UFO'S IT HAS BEGUN (UFO'S: PAST, PRESENT, & FUTURE) + (1979) 1 HR 34 MIN COLOR + -b- "OVERLORDS OF THE UFO'S" (1976) APROX. 1 HR 45 MIN + COLOR + -c- KNBC-TV LOS ANGELES, 6 PART UFO SPECIAL + (1989) 33 MIN COLOR + + A -047 -a- "SAUCERS" KCET-TV, LAS ANGELES - SPECIAL + (NOV 21, 1988) 30 MIN COLOR + -b- KVBC-TV LAS VAGAS; 5 PART UFO SPECIAL + (1988) 20 MIN COLOR + -c- "ON THE RECORD" KLAS-TV, LAS VEGAS - GEORGE KNAPP + PART # 1 JOHN LEAR - UFO BASES IN NEVADA + (1988) 1 HR. COLOR + -d- "ON THE RECORD" KLAS-TV, LAS VEGAS - GEORGE KNAPP + PART # 2 JOHN LEAR - UFO BASES IN NEVADA + (1988) 1 HR. COLOR + + A -048 -a- KTTV NEWS T.V., LAS ANGELES, CALF. + UFO SPECIAL REPORT: ABDUCTEES + (1988) 3 MIN COLOR + -b- UFO JOURNALS (1978) 1 HR 32 MIN COLOR + -c- EYEWITNESS NEWS LAS ANGELES, SPECIAL REPORT + UFO'S: WYOMING "ENCOUNTERS" + HOST: PAUL MOYER; OBSERVER: PAT MCGUIRE + WITH: L.A. PSYCHIC MARY COLMAN + AND PSYCHOLOGIST DR. LEO SPRINKLE + (JAN 1980) 15 MIN COLOR + -d- INSEARCH OF: "UFO COVER-UPS" HOST: LEONADR NIMOY + (1980) 22 MIN COLOR + -e- UFO EXCLUSIVE (1979) 1 HR 45 MIN COLOR + -f- THE OUTER SPACE CONNECTION; HOST: ROD STERLING + (1979) 1 HR 34 MIN COLOR + + A -049 -a- PAT MCQUIRE RANCHER AND UFOS (1980) 15 MIN COLOR + -b- LOOK AT US...UFO SHOW HOST: RICHARD CRENNA + JOHN SHEPHERD (19??) 7 MIN COLOR + -c- PEOPLE ARE TALKING: "SEARCH FOR UFOS AT MT RAINER" + (10-28-1981) 8 MIN COLOR + -d- LATE NIGHT, DAVID LETTERMAN: "FBI MAN SEES UFO" + (8-6-1982) 9 MIN COLOR + -e- INSEARCH OF: "UFO CAPTIVES" 23 MIN COLOR + (MISSED PART) "UFO LANDINGS" 8 MIN COLOR + "EARTH VISITORS" 23 MIN COLOR + "UFO COVER-UPS" 23 MIN COLOR (1980) + + A -050 -a- KNBC-TV; NBC 6 PART UFO SPECIAL (SAME AS A-046 -c-) + (1989) 33 MIN COLOR + -b- SOUND OFF...RANDOLPH WINTERS: "BILLY MEIER STORY" + (JAN, 1987) 22 MIN COLOR + -c- GERALDO: RAP SESSION "UFO ABDUCTIONS" + GUESTS: BUD HOPKINS, DR. BRUCE MACCABE + ABDUCTEES: PETER ROBBINS AND HIS SISTER + HELLEN WHEELS; ROSMARY OSNATO; "LEIGH" + PHOTO PRESENTATION BY: ELLEN CRYSTALL + (11 - 2 - 1987) APROX 42 MIN. COLOR + -d- ASSORTED UFO NEWS CLIP SHORTS: (1) ARNOLD ARIAS; COLLEGE + PROFESSOR AT CHAFFEY COLLEGE, ALTALOMA, CALF. + IN TROUBLE WITH FACULTY FOR IDEAS ABOUT UFOS + (1987?) 2 MIN KABC-TV, LAS ANGELES, CALF + (2) WHITLEY STREIBER; "MR. UFO" NEWS SPECIAL + REPORT (1987) 6 MIN. COLOR + -e- NIGHTLINE: TED COPPLE "MJ -12 DOCUMENTS" + STANTON FREIDMAN AND PHIL CLASS + (1987) APROX 21 MIN. COLOR + + + ==================================================================== + + NEW TAPES WILL BE ADDED TO THIS LIST FROM TIME TO TIME AS I RECEIVE + THEM. + ANYONE HAVING PROGRAMS WHICH YOU DO NOT FIND LISTED ABOVE, PLEASE + CONTACT ME IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TRADING WITH ME FOR THOSE ON THIS + LIST WHICH YOU DO NOT HAVE. + + + MIKE CHRISTOL + 2/13/1990 ATIVE 003) + + A - 029-a- "UFO'S THE BEST EVIDENCE: (11/89) GEORGE KNAPP + (KLAS TV, LAS VEGAS, NEV.) INCLUDES INTERVIEW + WITH ROBERT LAZAR AND AREA 51 AT GROOM LAKE + 1 HR. 35 MIN. COLOR + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2792.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2792.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..15271917 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2792.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,626 @@ +SUBJECT: WATCH THE SKIES FILE: UFO2792 + + + + + + + WATCH THE SKIES by David Dudley. + + (Baltimore) City Paper + October 9-15, 1992 + Vol. 16 No. 41. + + + "On a cold morning just before dawn in the winter of 1991, Steve + Tobias saw a UFO. He wasn't impressed. It was over Baltimore-Washington + International Airport, for one thing, where the airspace is typically + abuzz with flying objects, identified and otherwise. But Tobias says he + saw something. He was working maintenance for a major airline - he'd + rather not say which one - cleaning the idle planes during the night + shift, when he saw 'a hurtling object, almost perfectly circular, + brilliant greenish-yellow, streaking across the lower blackened portion + of the morning sky,' according to his own written account. The light + skittered over the BWI control tower and disappeared into the distant + clouds in a few brief seconds. 'It seemed to have been moving at great + speed,' Tobias wrote, 'at which I could not begin to estimate.' + + But he didn't think a great deal of it at the time. This was before + Tobias thought a lot about UFOs. He went in his office to get a cup of + coffee and warm up a little. One of the guys from the morning shift was + just showing up, and he was talking about the darndest things he had + heard on his CB radio driving into work a few minutes earlier. A couple + of truckers out on I-95 were saying they saw something up in the sky, + some kind of UFO or something. + + 'Don't tell me,' Tobias said, half-joking. 'It was green.' + + It was green, of course, according to the truckers. + + Tobias unwittingly had stumbled upon some independent corroborating + evidence for his early-morning fireball. And with that, Steve Tobias + decided that he had joined the ever-growing ranks of the human race + that have seen, or think they have seen, an unidentified flying object. + + Since 1947, when a reporter named Bill Bequette added the term flying + saucer to our increasingly scary postwar lexicon after a pilot named + Kenneth Arnold spotted nine wingless craft scooting past Mt. Rainier, + in Washington State, at what he thought was 1,700 mph, hundred of + thousands of people from around the world claim to have seen them as + well. Elvis Presley saw one in the desert outside of Vegas. More + convincingly, my mom saw one in the skies over Adelphi, Greece, in + 1952. Maybe you have seen one too. + + If you have, welcome to the other side, that uncounted segment of the + human populace that believes We Are Not Alone, and has the visual goods + to prove it. You have plenty of company. Here in the U.S., in the land + where atom bombs and flying saucers appeared at more or less the same + time, the UFO has become a familiar tabloid totem, a hip 60's TV show, + a kitschy symbol of American cold-war paranoia, a British heavy-metal + band, and one of the most instantly recognizable government acronyms + around. Jung thought UFOs were collective psychic manifestations -- + flying mandalas. The Air Force always seemed to think that they were + weather balloons -- or 'swamp gas,' whatever that is. + + But through it all, or those of you who lost interest some time after + "Chariots of the Gods" but before the "Weekly World News" space alien + met with Ross Perot, the sightings never have stopped. By 1969, 22 + years and hundreds of unresolved cases after the Mt. Rainier sighting, + the U.S. Air Force's Project Blue Book, the government's only official + UFO investigative unit, was under pressure to put up or shut up. + Earlier that same year, the Condon Committee, an Air Force-sponsored + civilian scientific study made by the University of Colorado and + chaired by astrophysicist Dr. Edward Condon, issued its infamous + report. This group - roughly equivalent to the Warren Commission in the + eyes of indignant UFOlogists - stated that there was still no + verifiable evidence that UFOs were either hostile or real, and + recommended that the Air Force stop fooling around with Blue Book. + + Life in 1969 was deemed weird enough without flying saucers. On + December 17, on the anniversary of the Wright Brothers' first powered + flight at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, Project Blue Book was official + canceled. Nine years later, "Dragnet's" Jack Webb produced "Project + U.F.O.", a short-lived television series based on Project Blue Book - + it was also canceled. + + This Monday, on another, slightly more famous anniversary, the + quincentennial of Christopher Columbus' discovery (or invasion, + depending on which side of the ocean you were on) of the Americas, NASA + will throw the switch on another project that will obliquely try to + answer that same nagging, terrifying question: Are We Alone? Or to put + in Age of Discovery terms, What's Over There? + + The project is - or was - called SETI, the Search for Extra- + Terrestrial Intelligence, and if you get a chance to ask anyone in + charge, they'll be quick to say that it has nothing to do with UFOs. It + has so little to do with UFOs, in fact, that a few weeks ago they + changed the name of the whole program, because "Extra-Terrestrial" + tended to make people think about UFOs. It is now called the High + Resolution Microwave Survey, or HRMS, a more technically descriptive + but altogether less funky name. The ultimate goal and rationale behind + the program remains the same, however - to listen for positive evidence + of life beyond Earth. + + After a glitzy LIFE magazine cover story in August and a bitter + funding fight in Congress, SETI (or HRMS) will be deployed (i.e., + turned on) on schedule this Columbus Day and begin its high-tech sweep + of the cosmic radio dial, searching for a faint radio wave from the + distant light years that could indicate, finally, whether intelligent + life here is as lonely as it seems. + + Steve Tobias, for one, doesn't need to be told by any big PR + government research study whether there's something out there or not. + He saw one of the damn things. And since that cold morning in 1991, he + has become convinced that not only is extraterrestrial life possible, + or likely - even NASA says that now - but it is going to show up en + masse any day now. And these discoverers are going to teach the third + planet from the sun a lesson in interstellar imperialism that will put + Columbus to shame. + + On the phone, Tobias sounds worried. + + 'I haven't been in a good mood since I found out about these things,' + he says. + + It sounds as if he means it. Even in the midst of a breathless bout + of doom-laden alien speculation, his voice has the desperate edge of a + man who has a very serious job to do, a man who must be heard, even if + it frequently is difficult to follow the thread of what he's trying to + say. Right now he is talking alternately about tidal waves, hurricane + Andrew, AIDS, and a passage in Virgil's "Aeneid," all of which may be + linked to extraterrestrial intervention. It may be a stretch for the + layman, but Steve Tobias has been doing his homework. + + + After his brief encounter at BWI, Tobias took a trip to his local + library and perused a few books on UFOs. Even after doing that, he + still wasn't all that convinced that they existed, but it seemed worth + following up on. Previously, he says, he was a typical skeptic, + uninterested in either the UFOs or even in the science-fiction + literature and films in which they figure so prominently. But one of + the books he picked up, David C. Knight's UFOs - A Pictorial History + From Antiquity to the Present, mentioned reports of glowing 'fireballs' + from the distant past - these sounded similar to what he had seen at + BWI. Other books told of crashed saucers in the New Mexico desert, + alien bodies in cold storage at Ohio's Wright-Patterson AFB, Air Force + pilots killed chasing flying discs in 1948, massive government cover- + ups, official disinformation campaigns, and scads of mysterious above- + top-secret evidence that Uncle Sam knew what UFOs were and where they + were coming from. + + 'I was flabbergasted,' Tobias says. 'Why in the hell was the + government sitting on this? Why wasn't this on MPT?' [Maryland Public + TV.] + + The incidents that he stumbled upon are, of course, all familiar + pieces of the vast body of popular UFOlogy, the subjects of numerous + books and films and tabloid headlines. But for Tobias it was a + revelation, a call to action. And it was only the beginning. 'I was + shaken out of my dull-witted complacency and began to tie many other + events and trends together,' he writes in his account of the fateful + moment. + + Since then, Tobias has tied a lot together. He also has formed his + own UFO investigation and research group, which he calls Citizens + Investigation of Phenomena Psychic, Astral, and Celestial (CIPPAC). + + At this stage, he admits, CIPPAC is still pretty much just himself. + But he has great ambitions and a deadly serious mission. 'I decided + that the government made a grave mistake in trying to cover this up,' + he says. 'There is a possibility that we are all in a lot of danger.' + + Before personally subjecting myself to CIPPAC's stockpile of alarming + new evidence, I figured it was time to apprise myself of some of the + latest in UFO literature. Since 1951, when Frank Scully's "Behind the + Flying Saucers" - a clumsily hoaxed account of a saucer that crashed in + New Mexico with its crew of 16 tiny, human-looking alien crewmen on + board - was published, the UFO phenomenon has perpetuated itself, + supported itself, and, arguably, scientifically crippled itself with a + thriving industry of freelance investigations, pseudoacademic + theorizing, and various starling firsthand accounts. + + My favorite always has been "God Drives a Flying Saucer," an + amazingly wacky 1973 paperback by one R.L. Dione, which insists that + UFOs were merely the 'angels' of a distant supertechnological alien God + who accomplished the various miracles of Biblical renown (i.e., Jesus' + walking on the water, the revelation of Saul, the Immaculate + Conception) through force fields, hypno-beams, antigravity devices, and + other common saucer gizmos. + + Couldn't find that one at the Pratt [Enoch Pratt Library, Baltimore], + but there were plenty of other new developments. The most dramatic and + well-documented recent incident is definitely the series of sightings + that occurred over a period of several months to a couple, Ed and + Frances Walters, in Gulf Breeze, Florida, in 1987-88. Compared to the + usual fuzzy black-and-white blurs that filled the UFO exposes of my + youth, the Walters' slick, full-color account, "The Gulf Breeze + Sightings," was almost absurdly well documented. These poor guys + couldn't get rid of their UFOs. Ed Walters claimed 20 separate + sightings and took 39 color photos, mostly Polaroids, of the various + saucers that buzzed his house, spoke to him telepathically, shot + immobilizing blue beams at him and his wife, deposited hostile little + big-eyed aliens on his porch, and woke up his dog, Crystal. The + pictures are amazing, almost too good. You can count the windows on the + saucers, which look kind of like Chinese lanterns or Christmas + ornaments. If it is a hoax, they certainly chose the corniest-looking + flying saucers imaginable. + + I have yet to see a UFO of any kind, although I always have kept my + eyes open for them. I'm certain that anyone who grew up watching enough + television does too. Hollywood in the 70s painted a fairly sunny + picture of our alien visitors, compared with the lurking paranoia that + informed their 50's/atomic-age counterparts. (Ever seen the creepy 1953 + film "Invaders From Mars?) In the 70s, however, wondrous, childlike ETs + descended from the heavens in glittering chandeliers to save petty, + grumpy humanity from our own miserable selves and treat us to eye- + popping special effects. Sounds good. Come on down. Sign me up. + + My mother now says that she and a friend observed what could only + have been a UFO while on vacation in Greece in 1952, a huge year for + sightings, incidentally, according to Project Blue Book: 1,500 reports, + 303 of them unexplained. Luckily, she did not volunteer this + information during my childhood, lest my imagination suffer a permanent + and debilitating overdose. And unlike Steve Tobias, my mom was not + transformed by her encounter into a crusader for UFO truth and justice. + She did, however, take it seriously enough to report the incident to + the U.S. consulate in Athens, where it was no doubt chuckled at and + thrown away. + + Nevertheless, it was a fairly dramatic experience. For one thing, + Adelphi, Greece, is a fairly dramatic place to see a UFO. It was, after + all, the location of the Oracle of Apollo, a place the ancients called + 'the navel of the world.' It was a stunningly clear day in pre-smog + Greece, not a soul around, and 'the most awful quiet,' Mom says. She + heard it before she saw it, 'a sort of whiny sound,' not a prop or a + helicopter, and certainly not a jet, which would have been exceedingly + rare in 1952 anyway. Then she and her friend saw it. + + 'It was shaped like and upside-down clamshell,' she says, 'and it + moved around jerkily. We must have watched it for ten minutes, but it + never occurred to me to take a picture.' + + After hovering around and casing the place for a while, it 'shot + straight up like a helicopter,' she says, then vanished into the + cloudless sky at enormous speed. 'It was up and gone in about three + seconds.' + + And that was Mom's UFO. It may not be quite as spectacular as Ed + Walters' pesky talking UFOs, but it struck me as being more remarkable, + for two reasons. One: even though '52 was a big UFO hysteria year, my + mom knew nothing of the existing body of evidence regarding sightings. + For that matter, she still doesn't. They're just not her thing. Yet her + account is completely consistent with most of the accepted recurring + elements in UFO behavior: the jerky hovering, the unearthly whine, the + last-second zip straight up and out of sight.... This is classic UFO + stuff. Ed's UFOs were doing that all the time. + + Two: my mom wouldn't make this up. + + 'If you don't know what's going on,' Steve Tobias tells me, 'you're + sheep going to the slaughter. And the cruel thing is, it doesn't have + to be that way.' + + He's running through his visual evidence, some of which is just clips + from infotainment shows such as Hard Copy and this season's new + Sightings. But he's also got NASA footage from some of the Apollo + flights - scenes of an astronaut's jerky spacewalk that Tobias believed + was closely monitored by small UFOs whizzing by periodically. He runs + the VCR back and forth in slow motion. + + 'There it is! Did you see it? I'll run it by again. If you're not + looking for something, you're not gonna see it.' + + Sure enough, something - little more than a bright speck - keeps + flitting across the screen behind the astronaut's shoulder. Tobias says + that he has watched the scene countless times, has analyzed the + object's trajectory and the way the sunlight reflects off of it, and he + is convinced that the speck is a small round craft of some kind, under + intelligent control. + + 'They are out there and they have been seen,' he says. '[The + astronauts] notified mission control and it was covered up.' + + Tobias is not the first to claim that the Apollo astronauts were + continually dogged by UFOs and that NASA scrupulously covered up the + reports. That has been a mainstay of UFO conspiracy literature for + decades. But he thinks that he may be the first to have picked them out + of NASA's own file footage. + + This kind of low-budget home investigation now has become the guiding + passion of Tobias' life. Since an on-the-job injury put him out of work + in April 1991 (not long after his UFO sighting), he has used his free + time to immerse himself in the collective evidence of UFOlogy, filing + his Dundalk rowhome with dog-eared copies of 70s paperbacks such as + Timothy Goode's conspiracy tome "Above Top Secret", videos, xeroxed + documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, weird + newsletters from fringe UFO groups, and his own notebooks. + + Now 40 years old, Tobias was a member of the Maryland Air National + Guard from 1972 to 1988, where he rose to the rank of technical + sergeant. It was his military experience, he says, that led him to take + on the thankless task of spreading the word. + + 'This whole thing points to a threat to the public,' he says. 'I'm + working on the assumption of imminent conflict. But not conflict as we + know it.' + + Tobias has taken the old axiom of cosmologist Martin Rees and turned + it into a sort of manifesto of sorts. Rees said, in reference to + extraterrestrial life, that 'absence of evidence if not evidence of + absence.' For Tobias, absence of evidence is evidence of hostility. + + 'There's no reason to assume that the aliens have friendly + intentions,' he says. 'In the military, if you're using stealth, you + are in an aggressive posture.' He figures the reasons that UFOs, having + journeyed here for hundreds of thousands of light- years from a distant + galaxy, are being so coy with us is that they're scouting out the + battlefield. 'Reconnaissance is the staging for the final onslaught,' + he explains. For Tobias, this sneakiness is tantamount to an act of + war, and if the government refuses to fess up and tell the people what + the hell is going on, he will do it himself. + + 'I guess it's akin to Paul Revere saying the Redcoats are coming,' he + tells me. + + Sipping iced tea in his living room, Tobias speculates grimly on the + final onslaught as his two young kids tromp in and out on a hot late- + summer afternoon. A kitten periodically clambers around and falls off + the sofa. + + 'This would not be a war of conquest,' he says. 'This would be + obliteration. This would be ... special genocide.' + + Things are falling into frightening patterns here in Dundalk. Tobias + connects chains of seemingly random events and links them back to an + unseen alien hand. He sees world events and phenomena as diverse as the + fall of communism and the weather as sinister manifestations of an + intricate master plan to unbalance this hapless planet. Such as: Why + did hurricanes Andrew and Iniki lay waste only to American territory? + And finally: What was that seven-foot-tall reptilian creature those two + guys in South Carolina saw? + + 'What does that look like to you?' + + Tobias shows me one of his CIPPAC documents, a Xerox of a strange + black silhouette, supposedly an infrared computer scan beamed to Earth + from the Soviet Phobos II satellite in 1989. He says that it is a vast + cylindrical object 15.5 miles long, lurking undetected in space behind + the Martian moon Phobos. With a bit of imagination, it looks sort of + like the ship in "Battlestar Galactica." + + 'I don't know,' I say. 'It's hard to tell.' + + According to NASA (according to Tobias), it is a computer flaw. he + thinks it might be the invasion vessel itself, all 15 miles of it. + + 'I'm assuming the worst,' he says. 'There could be a thousand ships + behind that moon.... It's nice to see a movie called "Star Wars," but + from a military perspective, it boggles the mind.' + + The kids are playing upstairs, too loudly. Tobias' wife marches + upstairs to settle them down. Tobias admits his wife would 'rather not + get dragged into this' and that most friends and family have been less + than receptive to his campaign. + + 'Most of them don't believe in UFOs,' he says. 'They're like + everybody else. They see the whole subject as entertainment.' + + The fault for this, he believes, lies with the media. Because the + government is keeping all the hard evidence bottled up, no one can take + these things seriously anymore. 'Television and the movies trivialize + UFO phenomena,' he rails. 'It has made the public completely culturally + desensitized. It's lobotomizing the public consciousness. It's taking + away the right to wonder.' + + One wonders, then, what to make of NASA's SETI program, the high-tech + search for just the kind of alien civilizations that the UFO community + has been insisting are visiting us regularly. The official NASA party + line, of course, has always been that UFOs are impossible, for all + practical purposes, because of the vast distances involved between star + systems and the colossal time and energy required to attempt a + crossing. The best hope for detection lies not in a physical visit from + a neighboring life form but rather in the radio waves that such a + civilization might conceivably be beaming our way. + + For Steve Tobias, as well for many other freelance UFOlogists who + make a point not to trust NASA or any other arm of the government, the + hope and hype of the impending SETI program is an empty diversion. + + 'It's still the Big Lie,' Tobias says, 'but it's a different part of + the Big Lie.' + + Tobias' theory is that SETI is just an elaborate gimmick, a PR trick + to further desensitize the public. + + 'NASA is trying to save their own integrity [with the SETI program],' + he says. 'It's an excuse. It would just tell us what has been slowly + massaged into the American consciousness.' + + Similar rumbles are being heard throughout the UFO community, + according to the folks at the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies, or + CUFOS, as it's known, in Chicago. CUFOS is probably the closest thing + UFOlogists have to a serious scientific research center. It was founded + in 1973 by the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek, the chairman of the astronomy + department at Northwestern University, an Air Force consultant + throughout the Blue Book era and a sort of scientific guru to the UFO + community. CUFOS is basically an information clearinghouse and archive, + supported by subscriptions to its monthly "International UFO Reporter" + and its biannual "Journal of UFO Studies," an academic journal. + + CUFOS also tried to crank out two books a year, with much of the + recent material focused on the Roswell Case -- the 1947 New Mexico + saucer crash and cover-up of Hangar 18 fame. David Boras, the assistant + to CUFOS director Mark Rodeghier, says that he's heard plenty of rumors + about the SETI program. + + 'For the most part,' he says, 'people in SETI have a negative or + indifferent attitude towards UFOs.... They honestly don't believe in + the phenomenon. But there is that rumor in the UFO community that the + SETI people are going to release information [about a contact] as a way + to condition people into accepting the existence of UFOs.' + + Boras stresses, however that there is 'no real evidence for this,' + adding it's just part of the fringe group of UFOlogy. Some people + believe that [the government] knows everything, that they have been in + contact for years... there have been treaties... all sorts of stuff. + And everyone believes that this year they're gonna tell.' + + Boras sounds vaguely sad. Disheartened. As if maybe he's given up + hope. As if maybe the government is never going to tell. + + 'It just sorta messes things up, dealing with the fringe groups,' he + intones, sadly. 'It's keeping the brains in the scientific community + from wanting to pursue the field. It's certainly keeping the funding + away...' he says, trailing off. It sounds as if maybe he's had enough + of life on the UFO trail. + + 'It just gets kinda irritating.' + + Michael Mewhinney, who's handling public relations for NASA's SETI + program from his office at Ames Research Center, in Moffett Field, + California, not far from San Francisco, is kind of irritated too. First + of all, the powers that be just changed the name of his project last + week, long after all the press material and general hoopla were sent + out, so now he has to make sure all reporters who call use 'HRMS' in + their stories instead of 'SETI.' Second of all, I just mentioned UFOs. + + 'NASA has nothing to do with UFOs!' he says, bristling. 'We are not + wasting taxpayer money.' + + It sounds as if he's been through this before. + + 'This is not a frivolous enterprise -- this is serious science!' + + Traditionally, folks at NASA are touchy about the UFO thing, + especially with all the trouble they have had trying to convince + Congress to fund a search for distant alien civilizations in the middle + of a recession. Dr. Gary Coulter, the program manager for the newly + titled HRMS, knows all about that. Coulter has been at NASA + headquarters, in Washington, D.C., throughout the funding fray, setting + records straight and nudging the $10-million-per-year program past + Congressional critics. He says that the new moniker has been in the + works for a while. + + 'It's a matter of semantics,' he says. 'It's been obvious that when + we've been criticized, it's not for the science. Most of what draws + criticism is the connotation that if you are searching for ETI + [extraterrestrial intelligence], it must be frivolous.' + + According to Coulter, there's an official NASA name for this + phenomenon: 'SETI has what we call a Giggle Factor.' + + The Giggle Factor apparently was the final straw for the project + acronym. 'The name had this lightning rod stuck in the middle of it,' + he says. + + Mike Mewhinney back at Ames agrees. 'We're looking for intelligent + life, not ETs,' he complains indignantly. 'ET is that cute little guy + in the movies.' + + In NASAspeak, ETI tends to lead inexorably to LGM (Little Green Men) + in the minds of the public. 'It's like putting a red flag in front of a + charging bull,' Coulter says. + + Whenever NASA functionaries are faced with UFO-related questions, + these Little Green Men always show up somehow. They even have their own + acronym now. It is the ultimate shorthand put-down for nosy reporters, + instantly defusing the most loaded of questions and making the + unfortunate inquirer look and feel like a four-year-old in the process. + 'Oh! You're talking about the Little Green Men,' they always say. It's + very effective. + + Coulter manages to invoke the LGM only once, but he throws in a few + popular film allusions for good measure. + + 'This is not a Bug Hunt,' he says, recalling a line from the film + "Aliens." 'We are not a search-and-rescue team for UFOs. And I've never + felt a burning desire to climb the Devil's Tower, either.' + + And as for those rumors about SETI/HRMS being a cover for an eventual + UFO disinformation campaign? Or a PR stunt? + + 'Well, I've never heard that one before,' he says in a tone of voice + that indicates he has heard plenty of others. 'Look, I've been program + manager for four years. There is not one shred of truth to that. I have + never heard, felt, seen, smelled, tasted, or used any other organs to + sense anything to that effect.' + + Seemed convincing enough to me. But despite all the breathless + denials, SETI remains a ripe target for conspiracy theorists simply + because many just don't trust the government to tell the word if and + when the massive radio telescopes manage to pick up and verify and ETI + signal. To rectify this perception, NASA's SETI Institute called on the + International Academy of Astronautics, one of several international + space organizations composed of astronomers and scientific + professionals from around the world that had expressed support for the + project, to define the specific terms of this theoretical announcement. + They put their heads together and came up with a singularly remarkable + document. + + It is called the Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities + Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, and it + states, in brief, that any verified ETI signal picked out of the + heavens by SETI/HRMS is the property of all the people of the planet, + not just the U.S. or NASA. In two pages of densely worded legalese, it + calls for the swift dissemination ('promptly, openly, and widely') of + the discovery to the United Nations, various academic institutions and + scientific channels, and then to the world media. 'The discoverer + should have the privilege of making the first public announcement,' + Article 4 of the declaration states. + + 'It's the ultimate freedom of information act,' Coulter says proudly. + + But the declaration doesn't make any provisions for a potential + response to the signal, except to say that no response should be sent + 'until appropriate international consultations have taken place.' This, + of course, would require another declaration. + + Coulter thinks we may be getting a bit ahead of things. For one + things, he says 'we do not presume that the message is answerable + necessarily.' + + Though numerous forward-thinking astrophysicists such as Carl Sagan + have speculated on coded beams of radio waves carrying the secrets of a + distant advanced technology through the stars for the benefit of less- + adept neighboring civilizations, the message may merely be 'Hello.' Or, + for that matter, 'Why did you cancel F Troop?' + + Or as Coulter says, it may be just like a lighthouse beacon. 'No + matter how closely you analyze a lighthouse beacon, you're not gonna + get the Encyclopedia Britannica,' he says. 'Besides, those things are + so far off, it's not worth thinking about.' + + And for those people working on the project, the detection alone, of + anything, would be plenty earthshaking in itself. Occasionally, Coulter + gets so caught up in trying to define what SETI is and isn't that he + loses the true magnitude of its stated goal. 'It's an attempt to answer + one of the most profound questions facing the human race,' he says, + sounding a bit stunned himself. 'It would be the most important non- + religious event in the history of the world, I guess.' + + At this point even the canniest of NASA project managers must + struggle with the poetry of the moment. For some things there are yet + no acronyms. + + 'Philosophically, I see old Mother Earth spinning around as she has + for millions of years,' Coulter says slowly, silently constructing the + image in his mind. 'And I almost see old Mother Earth pausing for a + moment. And when she spins again, everything will be different.' + + Meanwhile, back in Dundalk, Steve Tobias keeps up his lonely vigil, + playing old NASA footage over and over again on his beatup VCR, which + keeps breaking down, in search of those elusive white specks. + + 'I'd be making a fool of myself if I was pursuing something that + wasn't provable,' he says from beneath the brim of his Maryland Air + National Guard cap. 'I know that people with different forms of mental + delusions or dementia will grasp onto things. But that doesn't take + anything away from the phenomena.' + + 'This is a struggle between perceptions of what is and what could + be,' he says firmly. 'And I am going all the way.' + + He keeps hearing rumors of mysterious 'government' operatives who + periodically appear on the doorsteps of intrepid investigators such as + himself to silence them forever - the 'Men in Black,' they are called. + Tobias is ready for them, whoever or whatever they are. 'No one can + intimidate me,' he says. 'If they showed up at my door, they would be + apprehended. One of us would die.' + + Until then, he will keep compiling his odd fragments of information + and scraps of evidence, keep typing his densely worded, single-spaced + CIPPAC reports. 'Make copies,' he writes on the back of one in an + urgent red pen. 'Spread the word!' + + But it's getting on toward evening now. Tobias has more evidence. + More books. A radio interview. A sketch of a possible alien footprint + in his notebook. And, before I go, that passage from Virgil's "Aeneid." + + A sudden crash of thunder, and a shooting star slid down. + + The sky's dark face, drawing a trail of light behind it. + + He leaves me with a copy of his group's logo -- a picture of the + Greek discus thrower hurling an outsized flying saucer - and its motto: + + 'Seek after the truth.' + + 'I fear Tomorrow these days,' he writes in the first lines of his + first CIPPAC report. 'I fear for Your Tomorrows as well. All of you, + Humanity.' + + For all his wild speculation and conspiracy bluster, Tobias really + means it. And if the world chooses not to stop to listen to his one-man + call to arms, it will not be for lack of his trying or for the weakness + of his convictions. Right or wrong, Steve Tobias has discovered + something. + + 'I don't consider myself a social martyr,' he says. 'I really wish I + had never found this out. I wish I could be like everyone else.' + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2793.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2793.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4a4f15be --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2793.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +SUBJECT: WORLD WAR II UFO'S FILE: UFO2793 + + + + + + + CUFON - UFO Information Service Seattle, Washington + + History of UFO's During World War II + + + During world war II the accumulation of sightings of mysterious + celestial objects, finally started to worry the military authorities. + + In both camps, high-ranking officials of the intelligence services + started to study these strange objects and investigation committees + composed of military and scientific personnel were set up in various + countries. They had a double purpose: first of all to determine the + nature of these flting objects and then to see if they constituted a + threat to the security of the nation. + + During world war II, the Allies, just like the Germans, noticed the + persence of these enigmatic flying objects above their secret bases. + The first reaction of each side was obviously to suspect espionage on + the part of their enemy. + + In 1943 the English were the first to set up a special group to enquire + into the question of these object. The British set up a small + organization to collect evidence. It was headed by Lieutenant General + Massey and was inspired by reports from a spy who, in fact was a double + agent operating under the orders of the Mayor of Cologne. He had + comfirmed that the "Foo-fighters" were not German devices, but that the + Germans thought that they were Allied weapons which, of course, the + British knew was not so. + + Later in 1966, was learned from the British Aviation Minister that + project Massey had been officially classified in 1944. Perhaps it was + pure coincidence, but the double agent was denounced and executed at + the beginning of that year. For their part the Germans did not remain + inactive. But in 1944, the Wehemacht asked Oberkommando of the + "Luftwaffe (aviation)" to set up a center to collect information on all + the various sightings of these mysterious celestial object. + + This was known as Sonderburo No 13 which, until the time of the German + defeat scrupulously applied itself to its job. The short time that this + commission was in existence prevented it from coming to any definite + conclusions, but it collected an impressive amount of information. + + The first sighting, studied by the Sonderburo, went back two year and + came from a Hauptmann Fischer, an engineer in civil life. On March + 14,1942, at 5:35 p.m., Fischer landed at the secret air base at Banak, + in Norway. + + At that instant the radar picked up a luminous object and Fischer was + asked to go up and identify it. At about 10,000 feet the pilot caught + sight of the object, and gave a description by radio to the base: an + enormous streamlined craft about 300 feet long and about 50 feet in + diameter. The aerial whale which was Fischer's title for it stayed + horizontal for a long moment before rising vertically and disappearing + at great speed. + + It was not a machine constructed by the hand of man, Fischer stated in + his report. On reading the report, Air Marshall Hermann Goering + concluded that the solitude of the north does not seem to have done + much for this pilot. The report of another interesting incident was + carefully preserved in the archives of the German Investiganion + Committee: that of the launching of an experimental rocket on February + 12, 1944, at the Kummersdorf test center. + + On that day the Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, S.S. + Reichsfuhrer Himmler and S.S. Gruppenfuhrer Heinz Kammler were present + at the launching which was being filmed. Some days later the + authorities at the base organized a showung of the film. The astonihhed + spectators, could see very clearly a spherical body which followed the + rocket and circled around it. + + The autorities immediately suspected Allied espionage. However, an + agent informed Himmler that the English were themselves victims of the + same sort of phenomenon and thought that it was a new type of German + prototype craft. However, the most convincing evidence filed away by + the Sonderburo came from a military flying ace. + + On September 29, 1944, at 10:45 a.m., a test pilot was trying out a new + Messerschmitt jet, ME 262 Schwalbe, when his attention was suddenly + caught by two luminous points situated on his right. He shot at full + speed in that direction and found himself face to face with a + cylindrical object, more than three hundred feet long with some + openings along its side, and fitted with long antennae placed in front + up to about halfway along its length. Having approached within about + 1,500 feet of the craft the pilot was amazed to see that it was moving + at a speed of more than 1,200 m.p.h. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2794.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2794.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8c61b2de --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2794.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,1918 @@ +SUBJECT: THE ZETA RETICULI INCIDENT FILE: UFO2794 + + + + + + + THE ZETA RETICULI INCIDENT + + By Terence Dickinson + + With related commentary by: Jeffrey L. Kretsch, Carl Sagan, Steven + Soter, Robert Schaeffer, Marjorie Fish, + David Saunders, and Michael Peck. + + (C) 1976 by AstroMedia, Corp., publisher of Astronomy Magazine. + + A faint pair of stars, 220 trillion miles away, has been tentatively + identified as the "home base" of intelligent extraterrestrials who + allegedly visited Earth in 1961. This hypothesis is based on a strange, + almost bizarre series of events mixing astronomical research with + hypnosis, amnesia, and alien humanoid creatures. + + The two stars are known as Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 Reticuli, or together + as simply Zeta Reticuli. They are each fifth magnitude stars -- barely + visible to the unaided eye -- located in the obscure souther + constellation Reticulum. This southerly sky location makes Zeta + Reticuli invisible to observers north of Mexico City's latitude. + + The weird circumstances that we have dubbed "The Zeta Reticuli + Incident" sound like they come straight from the UFO pages in one of + those tabloids sold in every supermarket. But this is much more than a + retelling of a famous UFO incident; it's an astronomical detective + story that at times hovers on that hazy line that separates science + from fiction. It all started this way: + + The date is Sept. 19, 1961. A middle aged New Hampshire couple, + Betty and Barney Hill, are driving home from a short vacation in + Canada. It's dark, with the moon and stars illuminating the wooded + landscape along U.S. Route 3 in central New Hampshire. The Hills' + curiosity is aroused when a bright "star" seems to move in an irregular + pattern. They stop the car for a better view. The object moves closer, + and its disklike shape becomes evident. + + Barney grabs his binoculars from the car seat and steps out. He + walks into a field to get a closer look, focuses the binoculars, and + sees the object plainly. It has windows -- and behind the windows, + looking directly at him are...humanoid creatures! Terrified, Barney + stumbles back to the car, throws it into first gear and roars off. But + for some reason he turns down a side road where five of the humanoids + are standing on the road. + + Apparently unable to control their actions, Betty and Barney are + easily taken back to the ship by the humanoids. While inside they are + physically examined, and one of the humanoids communicates to Betty. + After the examination she asks him where they are from. In response he + shows her a three-dimensional map with various sized dots and lines on + it. "Where are you on the map?" the humanoid asks Betty. She doesn't + know, so the subject is dropped. + + Betty and Barney are returned unharmed to their car. They are told + they will forget the abduction portion of the incident. The ship rises, + and then hurtles out of sight. The couple continue their journey home + oblivious of the abduction. + + But the Hills are troubled by unexplained dreams and anxiety about + two hours of their trip that they can't account for. Betty, a social + worker, asks advice from a psychiatrist friend. He suggests that the + memory of that time will be gradually restored over the next few months + -- but it never is. Two years after the incident, the couple are still + bothered by the missing two hours, and Barney's ulcers are acting up. A + Boston psychiatrist, Benjamin Simon, is recommended, and after several + months of weekly hypnosis sessions the bizarre events of that night in + 1961 are revealed. A short time later a UFO group leaks a distorted + version of the story to the press and the whole thing blows up. The + Hills reluctantly disclose the entire story. + + Can we take this dramatic scenario seriously? Did this incredible + contact with aliens actually occur or is it some kind of hallucination + that affected both Barney and Betty Hill? The complete account of the + psychiatric examination from which the details of the event emerged is + related in John G. Fuller's 'The Interrupted Journey' (Dial Press, + 1966), where we read that after the extensive psychiatric examination, + Simon concluded that the Hills were not fabricating the story. The most + likely possibilities seem to be: (a) the experience actually happened, + or (b) some perceptive and illusory misinterpretations occurred in + relationship to some real event. + + There are other cases of alleged abductions by extraterrestrial + humanoids. The unique aspect of the Hills' abduction is that they + remembered virtually nothing of the incident. + + Intrigued by the Hills' experience, J. Allen Hynek, chairman of the + department of astronomy at Northwestern University, decided to + investigate. Hynek described how the Hills recalled the details of + their encounter in his book, 'The UFO Experience' (Henry Regnery + Company, 1972): + + "Under repeated hypnosis they independently revealed what had + supposedly happened. The two stories agreed in considerable detail, + although neither Betty nor Barney was privy to what the other had said + under hypnosis until much later. Under hypnosis they stated that they + had been taken separately aboard the craft, treated well by the + occupants -- rather as humans might treat experimental animals -- and + then released after having been given the hypnotic suggestion that they + would remember nothing of that particular experience. The method of + their release supposedly accounted for the amnesia, which was + apparently broken only by counterhypnosis." + + A number of scientists, including Hynek, have discussed this + incident at length with Barney and Betty Hill and have questioned them + under hypnosis. They concur with Simon's belief that there seems to be + no evidence of outright fabrication or lying. One would also wonder + what Betty, who has a master's degree in social work and is a + supervisor in the New Hampshire Welfare Department, and Barney, who was + on the governor of New Hampshire's Civil Rights Commission, would have + to gain by a hoax? Although the Hills didn't, several people have lost + their jobs after being associated with similarly unusual publicity. + + Stanton T. Friedman, a nuclear physicist and the nation's only space + scientist devoting full time to researching the UFO phenomenon, has + spent many hours in conversation with the Hills. "By no stretch of the + imagination could anyone who knows them conclude that they were nuts," + he emphasizes. + + So the experience remains a fascinating story despite the absence of + proof that it actually happened. Anyway -- that's where things were in + 1966 when Marjorie Fish, an Ohio schoolteacher, amateur astronomer and + member of Mensa, became involved. She wondered if the objects shown on + the map that Betty Hill allegedly observed inside the vehicle might + represent some actual pattern of celestial objects. To get more + information about the map she decided to visit Betty Hill in the summer + of 1969. (Barney Hill died in early 1969.) Here is Ms. Fish's account + of that meeting: + + "On Aug.4, 1969, Betty Hill discussed the star map with me. Betty + explained that she drew the map in 1964 under posthypnotic suggestion. + It was to be drawn only if she could remember it accurately, and she + was not to pay attention to what she was drawing -- which puts it in + the realm of automatic drawing. This is a way of getting at repressed + or forgotten material and can result in unusual accuracy. She made two + erasures showing her conscious mind took control part of the time. + + "Betty described the map as three-dimensional, like looking through + a window. The stars were tinted and glowed. The map material was flat + and thin (not a model), and there were no noticeable lenticular lines + like one of our three-dimensional processes. (It sounds very much like + a reflective hologram.) Betty did not shift her position while viewing + it, so we cannot tell if it would give the same three-dimensional view + from all positions or if it would be completely three-dimensional. + Betty estimated the map was approximately three feet wide and two feet + high with the pattern covering most of the map. She was standing about + three feet away from it. She said there were many other stars on the + map but she only (apparently) was able to specifically recall the + prominent ones connected by lines and a small distinctive triangle off + to the left. There was no concentration of stars to indicate the Milky + Way (galactic plane) suggesting that if it represented reality, it + probably only contained local stars. There were no grid lines." + + So much for the background material on the Hill incident. (If you + want more details on the encounter, see Fuller's book). For the moment + we will leave Marjorie Fish back in 1969 trying to interpret Betty + Hill's reproduction of the map. There is a second major area of + background information that we have to attend to before we can properly + discuss the map. Unlike the bizarre events just described, the rest is + pure astronomy. + + According to the most recent star catalogs, there are about 1,000 + known stars within a radius of 55 light-years of the sun. + + What are those other stars like? A check of the catalogs shows that + most of them are faint stars of relatively low temperature -- a class + of stars astronomers call main sequence stars. The sun is a main + sequence star along with most of the other stars in this part of the + Milky Way galaxy, as the following table shows: + + Main sequence stars 91% + White dwarfs 8% + Giants and Supergiants 1% + + Typical giant stars are Arcturus and Capella. Antares and Betelgeuse + are members of the ultrarare supergiant class. At the other end of the + size and brightness scale the white dwarfs are stellar cinders -- the + remains of once brilliant suns. For reasons that will soon become clear + we can remove these classes of stars from our discussion and + concentrate on the main sequence stars whose characteristics are shown + in the table. + + CHARACTERISTICS OF MAIN SEQUENCE STARS + + Class Proportion Temperature Mass Luminosity Lifespan + of Total (Degrees F) (sun=1) (sun=1) (billions yrs) + + A0 1% 20,000 2.8 60 0.5 Vega + A5 15,000 2.2 20 1.0 + F0 3% 13,000 1.7 6 2.0 Procyon + F5 12,000 1.25 3 4.0 + G0 9% 11,000 1.06 1.3 10 Sun + G5 10,000 0.92 0.8 15 + K0 14% 9,000 0.80 0.4 20 Epsilon + Eridani + K5 8,000 0.69 0.1 30 + M0 73% 7,000 0.48 0.02 75 Proxima + Centauri + M5 5,000 0.20 0.001 200 + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The spectral class letters are part of a system of stellar + "fingerprinting" that identifies the main sequence star's temperature + and gives clues to its mass and luminosity. The hottest, brightest and + most massive main sequence stars (with rare exceptions) are the A + stars. The faintest, coolest and least massive are the M stars. + + Each class is subdivided into 10 subcategories. For example, an A0 + star is hotter, brighter and more massive than an A1 which is above an + A2, and so on through A9. + + This table supplies much additional information and shows how a + slightly hotter and more massive star turns out to be much more + luminous than the sun, a G2 star. But the bright stars pay dearly for + their splendor. It takes a lot of stellar fuel to emit vast quantities + of light and heat. The penalty is a short lifespan as a main sequence + star. Conversely, the inconspicuous, cool M stars may be around to see + the end of the universe --whatever that might be. With all these facts + at hand we're now ready to tackle the first part of the detective + story. + + Let's suppose we wanted to make our own map of a trip to the stars. + We will limit ourselves to the 55 light-year radius covered by the + detailed star catalogs. The purpose of the trip will be to search for + intelligent life on planets that may be in orbit around these stars. We + would want to include every star that would seem likely to have a life- + bearing planet orbiting around it. How many of these thousand-odd stars + would we include for such a voyage and which direction would we go? + (For the moment, we'll forget about the problem of making a spacecraft + that will take us to these stars and we'll assume that we've got some + kind of vehicle that will effortlessly transport us to wherever we want + to go.) We don't want to waste our time and efforts -- we only want to + go to stars that we would think would have a high probability of having + planets harboring advanced life forms. This seems like a tall order. + How do we even begin to determine which stars might likely have such + planets? + + The first rule will be to restrict ourselves to life as we know it, + the kind of life that we are familiar with here on Earth -- carbon + based life. Science fiction writers are fond of describing life forms + based on chemical systems that we have been unable to duplicate here on + Earth -- such as silicon based life or life based on the ammonium + hydroxide molecule instead of on carbon. But right now these life forms + are simply fantasy -- we have no evidence that they are in fact + possible. Because we don't even know what they might look like -- if + they're out there -- we necessarily have to limit our search to the + kind of life that we understand. + + Our kind of life -- life as we know it -- seems most likely to + evolve on a planet that has a stable temperature regime. It must be at + the appropriate distance from its sun so that water is neither frozen + nor boiled away. The planet has to be the appropriate size so that its + gravity doesn't hold on to too much atmosphere (like Jupiter) or too + little (like Mars). But the main ingredient in a life-bearing planet is + its star. And its star is the only thing we can study since planets of + other stars are far too faint to detect directly. + + The conclusion we can draw is this: The star has to be like the sun. + + Main sequence stars are basically stable for long periods of time. + As shown in the table, stars in spectral class G have stable lifespans + of 10 billion years. (Our sun, actually a G2 star, has a somewhat + longer stable life expectancy of 11 billion years.) We are about five + billion years into that period so we can look forward to the sun + remaining much as it is (actually it will brighten slightly) for + another six billion years. Stars of class F4 or higher have stable + burning periods of less than 3.5 billion years. They have to be ruled + out immediately. Such stars cannot have life-bearing planets because, + at least based on our experience on our world, this is not enough time + to permit highly developed biological systems to evolve on the land + areas of a planet. (Intelligent life may very well arise earlier in + water environments, but let's forget that possibility since we have not + yet had meaningful communication with the dolphins --highly intelligent + creatures on this planet!) But we may be wrong in our estimate of life + development time. There is another more compelling reason for + eliminating stars of class F4 and brighter. + + So far, we have assumed all stars have planets, just as our sun + does. Yet spectroscopic studies of stars of class F4 and brighter + reveal that most of them are in fact unlike our sun in a vital way -- + they are rapidly rotating stars. The sun rotates once in just under a + month, but 60 percent of the stars in the F0 to F4 range rotate much + faster. And almost all A stars are rapid rotators too. It seems, from + recent studies of stellar evolution that slowly rotating stars like the + sun rotate slowly because they have planets. Apparently the formation + of a planetary system robs the star of much of its rotational momentum. + + For two reasons, then, we eliminate stars of class F4 and above: (1) + most of them rotate rapidly and thus seem to be planetless, and (2) + their stable lifespans are too brief for advanced life to develop. + + Another problem environment for higher forms of life is the multiple + star system. About half of all stars are born in pairs, or small groups + of three or more. Our sun could have been part of a double star system. + If Jupiter was 80 times more massive it would be an M6 red dwarf star. + If the stars of a double system are far enough apart there is no real + problem for planets sustaining life (see "Planet of the Double Sun", + September 1974). But stars in fairly close or highly elliptical orbits + would alternately fry or freeze their planets. Such planets would also + likely have unstable orbits. Because this is a potentially troublesome + area for our objective, we will eliminate all close and moderately + close pairs of systems of multiple stars. + + Further elimination is necessary according to the catalogs. Some + otherwise perfect stars are labeled "variable". This means astronomers + have observed variations of at least a few percent in the star's light + output. A one percent fluctuation in the sun would be annoying for us + here on Earth. Anything greater would cause climatic disaster. Could + intelligent life evolve under such conditions, given an otherwise + habitable planet? It seems unlikely. We are forced to "scratch" all + stars suspected or proven to be variable. + + This still leaves a few F stars, quite a few G stars, and hoards of + K and M dwarfs. Unfortunately most of the Ks and all of the Ms are out. + Let's find out why. + + These stars quite likely have planets. Indeed, one M star -- known + as Barnard's star -- is believed to almost certainly have at least one, + and probably two or three, Jupiter sized planets. Peter Van de Kamp of + the Sproul Observatory at Swarthmore College (Pa.) has watched + Barnard's star for over three decades and is convinced that a + "wobbling" motion of that star is due to perturbations (gravitational + "pulling and pushing") caused by its unseen planets. (Earth sized + planets cannot be detected in this manner.) + + But the planets of M stars and the K stars below K4 have two serious + handicaps that virtually eliminate them from being abodes for life. + First, these stars fry their planets with occasional lethal bursts of + radiation emitted from erupting solar flares. The flares have the same + intensity as those of our sun, but when you put that type of flare on a + little star it spells disaster for a planet that is within, say, 30 + million miles. The problem is that planets have to be that close to get + enough heat from these feeble suns. If they are farther out, they have + frozen oceans and no life. + + The close-in orbits of potential Earthlike planets of M and faint K + stars produce the second dilemma -- rotational lock. An example of + rotational lock is right next door to us. The moon, because of its + nearness to Earth, is strongly affected by our planet's tidal forces. + Long ago our satellite stopped rotating and now has one side + permanently turned toward Earth. The same principles apply to planets + of small stars that would otherwise be at the right distance for + moderate temperatures. If rotational lock has not yet set in, at least + rotational retardation would make impossibly long days and nights (as + evidenced by Mercury in our solar system). + + What stars are left after all this pruning? All of the G stars + remain along with F5 through F9 and K0 through K4. Stephen Dole of the + Rand Corporation has made a detailed study of stars in this range and + suggests we should also eliminate F5, F6 and F7 stars because they + balloon to red giants before they reach an age of five billion years. + Dole feels this is cutting it too fine for intelligent species to fully + evolve. Admittedly this is based on our one example of intelligent life + -- us. But limited though this parameter is, it is the only one we + have. Dole believes the K2, K3 and K4 stars are also poor prospects + because of their feeble energy output and consequently limited zone for + suitable Earthlike planets. + + Accepting Dole's further trimming we are left with single, + nonvariable stars from F8 through all the Gs to K1. What does that + leave us with? Forty-six stars. + + Now we are ready to plan the trip. It's pretty obvious that Tau Ceti + is our first target. After that, the choice is more difficult. We can't + take each star in order or we would be darting all over the sky. It's + something like planning a vacation trip. Let's say we start from St. + Louis and want to hit all the major cities within a 1,000 mile radius. + If we go west, all we can visit is Kansas City and Denver. But + northeast is a bonanza: Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, + Philadelphia, New York and more. The same principle applies to the + planning of our interstellar exploration. The plot of all 46 candidate + stars reveals a clumping in the direction of the constellations Cetus + and Eridanus. Although this section amounts to only 13 percent of the + entire sky, it contains 15 of the 46 stars, or 33 percent of the total. + Luckily Tau Ceti is in this group, so that's the direction we should go + (comparable to heading northeast from St. Louis). If we plan to visit + some of these solar type stars and then return to Earth, we should try + to have the shortest distance between stops. It would be a waste of + exploration time if we zipped randomly from one star to another. + + Now we are ready to return to the map drawn by Betty Hill. Marjorie + Fish reasoned that if the stars in the Hill map corresponded to a + patter of real stars -- perhaps something like we just developed, only + from an alien's viewpoint -- it might be possible to pinpoint the + origin of the alleged space travelers. Assuming the two stars in the + foreground of the Hill map were the "base" stars (the sun, a single + star, was ruled out here), she decided to try to locate the entire + pattern. She theorized that the Hill map contained only local stars + since no concentration would be present if a more distant viewpoint was + assumed and if both "us" and the alien visitors' home base were to be + represented. + + Let's assume, just as an astronomical exercise, that the map does + show the sun and the star that is "the sun" to the humanoids. We'll + take the Hill encounter at face value, and see where it leads. + + Since the aliens were described as "humanoid" and seemed reasonably + comfortable on this planet, their home planet should be basically like + ours. Their atmosphere must be similar because the Hills breathed + without trouble while inside the ship, and the aliens did not appear to + wear any protective apparatus. And since we assume their biology is + similar to ours, their planet should have the same temperature regime + as Earth (Betty and Barney did say it was uncomfortably cold in the + ship). In essence, then, we assume their home planet must be very + Earthlike. Based on what we discussed earlier it follows that their sun + would be on our list if it were within 55 light-years of us. + + The lines on the map, according to Betty Hill, were described by the + alien as "trade routes" or "places visited occasionally" with the + dotted lines as "expeditions". Any interpretation of the Betty Hill map + must retain the logic of these routes (i.e. the lines would link stars + that would be worth visiting). + + Keeping all this in mind, Marjorie Fish constructed several three- + dimensional models of the solar neighborhood in hopes of detecting the + pattern in the Hill map. Using beads dangling on threads, she + painstakingly recreated our stellar environment. Between Aug. 1968 and + Feb. 1973, she strung beads, checked data, searched and checked again. + A suspicious alignment, detected in late 1968, turned out to be almost + a perfect match once new data from the detailed 1969 edition of the + Catalog of Nearby Stars became available. (This catalog is often called + the "Gliese catalog" -- pronounced "glee-see" -- after its principal + author, Wilhelm Gliese.) + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + THE 46 NEAREST STARS SIMILAR TO THE SUN + NAME DISTANCE MAGNITUDE LUMINOSITY SPECTRUM + (light-years) (visual) (sun=1) + + Tau Ceti 11.8 3.5 0.4 G8 + 82 Eridani 20.2 4.3 0.7 G5 + Zeta Tucanae 23.3 4.2 0.9 G2 + 107 Piscium 24.3 5.2 0.4 K1 + Beta Comae + Berenices 27.2 4.3 1.2 G0 + 61 Virginis 27.4 4.7 0.8 G6 + Alpha Mensae 28.3 5.1 0.6 G5 + Gliese 75 28.6 5.6 0.4 K0 + Beta Canum + Venaticorum 29.9 4.3 1.4 G0 + Chi Orionis 32 4.4 1.5 G0 + 54 Piscium 34 5.9 0.4 K0 + Zeta 1 Reticuli 37 5.5 0.7 G2 + Zeta 2 Reticuli 37 5.2 0.9 G2 + Gliese 86 37 6.1 0.4 K0 + Mu Arae 37 5.1 0.9 G5 + Gliese 67 38 5.0 1.2 G2 + Gliese 668.1 40 6.3 0.4 G9 + Gliese 302 41 6.0 0.6 G8 + Gliese 309 41 6.4 0.4 K0 + Kappa Fornacis 42 5.2 1.3 G1 + 58 Eridani 42 5.5 0.9 G1 + Zeta Doradus 44 4.7 2.0 F8 + 55 Cancri 44 6.0 0.7 G8 + 47 Ursa Majoris 44 5.1 1.5 G0 + Gliese 364 45 4.9 1.8 G0 + Gliese 599A 45 6.0 0.6 G6 + Nu Phoenicis 45 5.0 1.8 F8 + Gliese 95 45 6.3 0.5 G5 + Gliese 796 47 5.6 0.5 G8 + 20 Leo Minoris 47 5.4 1.2 G4 + 39 Tauri 47 5.9 0.8 G1 + Gliese 290 47 6.6 0.4 G8 + Gliese 59.2 48 5.7 1.0 G2 + Psi Aurigae 49 5.2 1.5 G0 + Gliese 722 49 5.9 0.9 G4 + Gliese 788 49 5.9 0.8 G5 + Nu 2 Lupi 50 5.6 1.1 G2 + 14 Herculis 50 6.6 0.5 K1 + Pi Ursa Majoris 51 5.6 1.2 G0 + Phi 2 Ceti 51 5.2 1.8 F8 + Gliese 641 52 6.6 0.5 G8 + Gliese 97.2 52 6.9 0.4 K0 + Gliese 541.1 53 6.5 0.6 G8 + 109 Piscium 53 6.3 0.8 G4 + Gliese 651 53 6.8 0.4 G8 + Gliese 59 53 6.7 0.4 G8 + + This table lists all known stars within a radius of 54 light-years that + are single or part of a wide multiple star system. They have no known + irregularities or variabilities and are between 0.4 and 2.0 times the + luminosity of the sun. Thus, a planet basically identical to Earth + could be orbiting around any one of them. (Data from the Catalog of + Nearby Stars, 1969 edition, by Wilhelm Gliese.) + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The 16 stars in the stellar configuration discovered by Marjorie + Fish are compared with the map drawn by Betty Hill in the diagram on + page 6. If some of the star names on the Fish map sound familiar, they + should. Ten of the 16 stars are from the compact group that we selected + earlier based on the most logical direction to pursue to conduct + interstellar exploration from Earth. + + Continuing to take the Hill map at face value, the radiating pattern + of "trade routes" implies that Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 Reticuli are the "hub" + of exploration or, in the context of the incident, the aliens' home + base. The sun is at the end of one of the supposedly regular trade + routes. + + The pair of stars that make up Zeta Reticuli is practically in the + midst of the cluster of solar type stars that attracted us while we + were mapping out a logical interstellar voyage. Checking further we + find that all but two of the stars in the Fish pattern are on the table + of nearby solar type stars. These two stars are Tau 1 Eridani (an F6 + star) and Gliese 86.1 (K2), and are, respectively, just above and below + the parameters we arrived at earlier. One star that should be there + (Zeta Tucanae) is missing probably because it is behind Zeta 1 Reticuli + at the required viewing angle. + + To summarize, then: (1) the pattern discovered by Marjorie Fish has + an uncanny resemblance to the map drawn by Betty Hill; (2) the stars + are mostly the ones that we would visit if we were exploring from Zeta + Reticuli, and (3) the travel patterns generally make sense. + + Walter Mitchell, professor of astronomy at Ohio State University in + Columbus, has looked at Marjorie Fish's interpretation of the Betty + Hill map in detail and tells us, "The more I examine it, the more I am + impressed by the astronomy involved in Marjorie Fish's work." + + During their examination of the map, Mitchell and some of his + students inserted the positions of hundreds of nearby stars into a + computer and had various space vistas brought up on a cathode ray tube + readout. They requested the computer to put them in a position out + beyond Zeta Reticuli looking toward the sun. From this viewpoint the + map pattern obtained by Marjorie Fish was duplicated with virtually no + variations. Mitchell noted an important and previously unknown fact + first pointed out by Ms. Fish: The stars in the map are almost in a + plane; that is, they fill a wheel shaped volume of space that makes + star hopping from one to another easy and the logical way to go -- and + that is what is implied by the map that Betty Hill allegedly saw. + + "I can find no major point of quibble with Marjorie Fish's + interpretation of the Betty Hill map," says David R. Saunders, a + statistics expert at the Industrial Relations Center of the University + of Chicago. By various lines of statistical reasoning he concludes that + the chances of finding a match among 16 stars of a specific spectral + type among the thousand-odd stars nearest the sun is "at least 1,000 to + 1 against". + + "The odds are about 10,000 to 1 against a random configuration + matching perfectly with Betty Hill's map," Saunders reports. "But the + star group identified by Marjorie Fish isn't quite a perfect match, and + the odds consequently reduce to about 1,000 to 1. That is, there is one + chance in 1,000 that the observed degree of congruence would occur in + the volume of space we are discussing. + + "In most fields of investigation where similar statistical methods + are used, that degree of congruence is rather persuasive," concludes + Saunders. + + Saunders, who has developed a monumental computerized catalog of + more than 60,000 UFO sightings, tells us that the Hill case is not + unique in its general characteristics -- there are other known cases of + alleged communication with extraterrestrials. But in no other case on + record have maps ever been mentioned. + + Mark Steggert of the Space Research Coordination Center at the + University of Pittsburgh developed a computer program that he calls PAR + (for Perspective Alteration Routine) that can duplicate the appearance + of star fields from various viewpoints in space. + + "I was intrigued by the proposal put forth by Marjorie Fish that she + had interpreted a real star pattern for the alleged map of Betty Hill. + I was incredulous that models could be used to do an astronometric + problem," Steggert says. "To my surprise I found that the pattern that + I derived from my program had a close correspondence to the data from + Marjorie Fish." + + After several run-throughs, he confirmed the positions determined by + Marjorie Fish. "I was able to locate potential areas of error, but no + real errors," Steggert concludes. + + Steggert zeroed in on possibly the only real bone of contention that + anyone has had with Marjorie Fish's interpretation: The data on some of + the stars may not be accurate enough for us to make definitive + conclusions. For example, he says the data from the Smithsonian + Astrophysical Observatory Catalog, the Royal Astronomical Society + Observatory Catalog, and the Yale Catalog of Bright Stars "have + differences of up to two magnitudes and differences in distance + amounting to 40 percent for the star Gliese 59". Other stars have less + variations in the data from one catalog to another, but Steggert's + point is valid. The data on some of the stars in the map is just not + good enough to make a definitive statement. (The fact that measurements + of most of the stars in question can only be made at the relatively + poor equipped southern hemisphere observatories accounts for the less + reliable data.) + + Using information on the same 15 stars from the Royal Observatory + catalog (Annals #5), Steggert reports that the pattern does come out + differently because of the different data, and Gliese 59 shows the + largest variation. The Gliese catalog uses photometric, trigonometric + and spectroscopic parallaxes and derives a mean from all three after + giving various mathematical weights to each value. "The substantial + variation in catalog material is something that must be overcome," says + Steggert. "This must be the next step in attempting to evaluate the + map." + + This point of view is shared by Jeffrey L. Kretsch, an undergraduate + student who is working under the advisement of J. Allen Hynek at + Northwestern University in Evanston, Ill. Like Steggert, he too checked + Marjorie Fish's pattern and found no error in the work. But Kretsch + reports that when he reconstructed the pattern using trigonometric + distance measurements instead of the composite measures in the Gliese + catalog, he found enough variations to move Gliese 95 above the line + between Gliese 86 and Tau 1 Eridani. + + "The data for some of the stars seems to be very reliable, but a few + of the pattern stars are not well observed and data on them is somewhat + conflicting," says Kretsch. The fact that the pattern is less of a + "good fit" using data from other sources leads Kretsch and others to + wonder what new observations would do. Would they give a closer fit? Or + would the pattern become distorted? Marjorie Fish was aware of the + catalog variations, but has assumed the Gliese catalog is the most + reliable source material to utilize. + + Is the Gliese catalog the best available data source. According to + several astronomers who specialize in stellar positions, it probably + is. Peter Van de Kamp says, "It's first rate. There is none better." He + says the catalog was compiled with extensive research and care over + many years. + + A lot of the published trigonometric parallaxes on the stars beyond + 30 light-years are not as accurate as they could be, according to Kyle + Cudworth of Yerkes Observatory. "Gliese added other criteria to + compensate and lessen the possible errors," he says. + + The scientific director of the U.S. Naval Observatory, K.A. Strand, + is among the world's foremost authorities on stellar distances for + nearby stars. He believes the Gliese catalog "is the most complete and + comprehensive source available." + + Frank B. Salisbury of the University of Utah has also examined the + Hill and Fish maps. "The pattern of stars discovered by Marjorie Fish + fits the map drawn by Betty Hill remarkably well. It's a striking + coincidence and forces one to take the Hill story more seriously," he + says. Salisbury is one of the few scientists who has spent some time on + the UFO problem and has written a book and several articles on the + subject. A professor of plant physiology, his biology expertise has + been turned to astronomy on several occasions while studying the + possibility of biological organisms existing on Mars. + + Salisbury insists that while psychological factors do play an + important role in UFO phenomena, the Hill story does represent one of + the most credible reports of incredible events. The fact that the story + and the map came to light under hypnosis is good evidence that it + actually took place. "But it is not unequivocal evidence," he cautions. + + Elaborating on this aspect of the incident, Mark Steggert offers + this: "I am inclined to question the ability of Betty, under + posthypnotic suggestion, to duplicate the pattern two years after she + saw it. She noted no grid lines on the pattern for reference. Someone + should (or perhaps has already) conduct a test to see how well a + similar patter could be recalled after a substantial period of time. + The stress she was under at the time is another unknown factor." + + "The derivation of the base data by hypnotic techniques is perhaps + not as 'far out' as it may seem," says Stanton Friedman. "Several + police departments around the country use hypnosis on rape victims in + order to get descriptions of the assailants -- descriptions that would + otherwise remain repressed. The trauma of such circumstances must be + comparable in some ways to the Hill incident." + + Is it at all possible we are faced with a hoax? + + "Highly unlikely," says Salisbury -- and the other investigators + agree. One significant fact against a charade is that the data from the + Gliese catalog was not published until 1969, five years after the star + map was drawn by Betty Hill. Prior to 1969, the data could only have + been obtained from the observatories conducting research on the + specific stars in question. It is not uncommon for astronomers not to + divulge their research data -- even to their colleagues -- before it + appears in print. In general, the entire sequence of events just does + not smell of falsification. Coincidence, possibly; hoax, improbable. + + Where does all this leave us? Are there creatures inhabiting a + planet of Zeta 2 Reticuli? Did they visit Earth in 1961? The map + indicates that the sun has been "visited occasionally". What does that + mean? Will further study and measurement of the stars in the map change + their relative positions and thus distort the configuration beyond the + limits of coincidence? + + The fact that the entire incident hinges on a map drawn under less + than normal circumstances certainly keeps us from drawing a firm + conclusion. Exobiologists are united in their opinion that the chance + of us having neighbors so similar to us, apparently located so close, + is vanishingly small. But then, we don't even know for certain if there + is anybody at all out there -- anywhere -- despite the Hill map and + pronouncements of the most respected scientists. + + The only answer is to continue the search. Someday, perhaps soon, we + will know. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + THE VIEW FROM ZETA RETICULI + + The two stars that comprise the Zeta Reticuli system are almost + identical to the sun. Thy are the only known examples of two solar type + stars apparently linked into a binary star system of wide separation. + + Zeta 1 is separated from Zeta 2 by at least 350 billion miles -- + about 100 times the sun-Pluto distance. They may be even farther apart, + but the available observations suggest they are moving through space + together and are therefore physically associated. They probably require + at least 100,000 years to orbit around their common center of gravity. + + Both Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 are prime candidates for the search for life + beyond Earth. According to our current theories of planetary formation, + they both should have a retinue of planets something like our solar + system. As yet there is no way of determining if any of the probable + planets of either star is similar to Earth. + + To help visualize the Zeta Reticuli system, let's take the sun's + nine planets and put them in identical orbits around Zeta 2. From a + celestial mechanics standpoint there is no reason why this situation + could not exist. Would anything be different? Because of Zeta 2's + slightly smaller mass as compared with the sun, the planets would orbit + a little more slowly. Our years might have 390 days, for example. Zeta + 2 would make a fine sun - - slightly dimmer than "old Sol", but + certainly capable of sustaining life. The big difference would not be + our new sun but the superstar of the night sky. Shining like a polished + gem, Zeta 1 would be the dazzling highlight of the night sky -- unlike + anything we experience here on Earth. At magnitude -9 it would appear + as a starlike point 100 times brighter than Venus. It would be like + compressing all the light from the first quarter moon into a point + source. + + Zeta 1 would have long ago been the focus of religions, mythology + and astrology if it were in earthly skies. The fact that it would be + easily visible in full daylight would give Zeta 1 supreme importance to + both early civilizations and modern man. Shortly after the invention of + the telescope astronomers would be able to detect Jupiter and Saturn + sized planets orbiting around Zeta 1. Jupiter would be magnitude +12, + visible up to 4.5 minutes of arc from Zeta 1 (almost as far as Ganymede + swings from Jupiter). It would not make a difficult target for an eight + inch telescope. Think of the incentive that discovery would have on + interstellar space travel! For hundreds of years we would be aware of + another solar system just a few "light-weeks" away. The evolution of + interstellar spaceflight would be rapid, dynamic and inevitable. + + By contrast, our nearest solar type neighbor is Tau Ceti at 12 + light-years. Even today we only suspect it is accompanied by a family + of planets, but we don't know for sure. + + From this comparison of our planetary system with those of Zeta + Reticuli, it is clear that any emerging technologically advanced + intelligent life would probably have great incentive to achieve star + flight. The knowledge of a nearby system of planets of a solar type + star would be compelling -- at least it would certainly seem to be. + + What is so strange -- and this question prompted us to prepare this + article -- is: Why, of all stars, does Zeta Reticuli seem to fit as the + hub of a map that appeared inside a spacecraft that allegedly landed on + Earth in 1961? Some of the circumstances surrounding the whole incident + are certainly bizarre, but not everything can be written off as + coincidence or hallucination. It may be optimistic, on one extreme, to + hope that our neighbors are as near as 37 light-years away. For the + moment we will be satisfied with considering it an exciting + possibility. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + THE AGE OF NEARBY STARS + + By Jeffrey L. Kretsch + + The age of our own sun is known with some accuracy largely because + we live on one of its planets. Examination of Earth rocks -- and, more + recently, rocks and soil from the moon -- has conclusively shown that + these two worlds went through their initial formation 4.6 billion years + ago. The formation of the sun and planets is believed to have been + virtually simultaneous, with the sun's birth producing the planetary + offspring. + + But we have yet to travel to any other planet -- and certainly a + flight to the surface of a planet of a nearby star is an event no one + reading this will live to witness. So direct measurement of the ages of + nearby stars -- as a by-product of extrasolar planetary exploration -- + is a distant future enterprise. We are left with information obtained + from our vantage point here near Earth. There is lots of it -- so let's + find out what it is and what it can tell us. + + When we scan the myriad stars of the night sky, are we looking at + suns that have just ignited their nuclear fires -- or have they been + flooding the galaxy with light for billions of years? The ages of the + stars are among the most elusive stellar characteristics. Now, new + interpretation of data collected over the past half century is shedding + some light on this question. + + Computer models of stellar evolution reveal that stars have definite + lifespans; thus, a certain type of star cannot be older than its + maximum predicted lifespan. Solar type stars of spectral class F5 or + higher (hotter) cannot be older than our sun is today. These stars' + nuclear fires burn too rapidly to sustain them for a longer period, and + they meet an early death. + + All main sequence stars cooler than F5 can be as old or older than + the sun. Additionally, these stars are also much more likely to have + planets than the hotter suns. + + There are several exciting reasons why the age of a star should be + tracked down. Suppose we have a star similar to the sun (below class + F5). If we determine how old the star is, we can assume its planets are + the same age -- a fascinating piece of information that suggests a host + of questions: Would older Earthlike planets harbor life more advanced + than us? Is there anything about older or younger stars and planets + that would make them fundamentally different from the sun and Earth? + + Of course we don't know the answer to the first question, but it is + provocative. The answer to the second question seems to be yes + (according to the evidence that follows). + + To best illustrate the methods of star age determination and their + implications, let's select a specific problem. "The Zeta Reticuli + Incident" sparked more interest among our readers than any other single + article in ASTRONOMY's history. Essentially, that article drew + attention to a star map allegedly seen inside an extraterrestrial + spacecraft. The map was later deciphered by Marjorie Fish, now a + research assistant at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee. + + In her analysis, Ms. Fish linked all 16 prominent stars in the + original map (which we'll call the Hill map since it was drawn by Betty + Hill in 1966) to 15 real stars in the southern sky. The congruence was + remarkable. The 15 stars -- for convenience we will call them the Fish- + Hill pattern stars -- are listed on the accompanying table. + + Since these stars have been a focus of attention due to Ms. Fish's + work and the article mentioned above, we will examine them specifically + to see if enough information is available to pin down their ages and + (possibly) other characteristics. This will be our case study star + group. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + THE FISH-HILL PATTERN STARS + + GLIESE ALTERNATE SPECTRAL W - TOTAL GALACTIC GALACTIC + CAT. NO. NAME TYPE VELOCITY SPACE ORBIT ORBIT + VELOCITY ECCENTRICITY INCL. + -------- --------- -------- -------- -------- ------------ -------- + 17 Zeta Tucanae G2 -38 70 0.1575 .0529 + 27 54 Piscium K0 10 45 0.1475 .0260 + 59 HD 9540 G8 1 26 0.0436 .0133 + 67 HD 10307 G2 0 45 0.1057 .0092 + 68 107 Piscium K1 3 43 0.1437 .0134 + 71 Tau Ceti G8 12 36 0.2152 .0287 + 86 HD 13445 K0 -25 129 0.3492 .0269 + 86.1 HD 13435 K2 -37 41 undetermined undetermined + 95 HD 14412 G5 -10 33 0.1545 .0025 + 97 Kappa Fornax G1 -13 35 0.0186 .0078 + 111 Tau 1 Eridani F6 14 81 0.0544 .0078 + 136 Zeta 1 + Reticuli G2 15 79 0.2077 .0321 + 138 Zeta 2 + Reticuli G1 -27 127 0.2075 .0340 + 139 82 Eridani G5 -12 37 0.3602 .0310 + 231 Alpha Mensae G5 -13 22 0.1156 .0065 + Sun Sol G5 0 0 0.0559 .0091 + + + All the stars listed here are main sequence or spectral group V stars. + Tau Ceti has a slight peculiarity in its spectrum as explained in the + text. W-velocity is the star's motion in km/sec in a direction above or + below (-) in the galactic plane. Total space velocity relative to the + sun is also in km/sec. Data is from the Gliese Catalog of Nearby Stars + (1969 edition). + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Consider, for example, the velocities of these stars in space. It is + now known that the composition and the age of a star shows a reasonably + close correlation with that star's galactic orbit. The understanding of + this correlation demands a little knowledge of galactic structure. + + Our galaxy, as far as we are concerned, consists essentially of two + parts -- the halo, and the disk. Apparently when the galaxy first took + shape about 10 billion years ago, it was a colossal sphere in which the + first generation of stars emerged. These stars -- those that remain + today, anyway -- define a spherical or halolike cloud around the disk + shaped Milky Way galaxy. Early in the galaxy's history, it is believed + that the interstellar medium had a very low metal content because most + of the heavy elements (astronomers call any element heavier than helium + "heavy" or a "metal") are created in the cores of massive stars which + then get released into the interstellar medium by stellar winds, novae + and supernovae explosions. Few such massive stars had "died" to release + their newly made heavy elements. Thus, the stars which formed early + (called Population II stars) tend to have a spherical distribution + about the center of the galaxy and are generally metal-poor. + + A further gravitational collapse occurred as the galaxy flattened + out into a disk, and a new burst of star formation took place. Since + this occurred later and generations of stars had been born and died to + enrich the interstellar medium with heavy elements, these disk stars + have a metal-rich composition compared to the halo stars. Being in the + disk, these Population I stars (the sun, for example) tended to have + motions around the galactic core in a limited plane -- something like + the planets of the solar system. + + Population II stars -- with their halo distribution -- usually have + more random orbits which cut through the Population I hoards in the + galactic plane. A star's space velocity perpendicular to the galactic + plane is called its W-velocity. Knowing the significance of the W- + velocity, one can apply this information to find out about the + population classification and hence the ages and compositions of stars + in the solar neighborhood -- the Fish-Hill stars in particular. + + High W-velocity suggests a Population II star, and we find that six + of the 16 stars are so classified while the remaining majority are of + Population I. A further subdivision can be made using the W-velocity + data (the results are shown in the table below. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + POPULATION CLASSIFICATION OF THE FISH-HILL STARS + + OLD POPULATION I (1 TO 4 BILLION YEARS OLD) + Gliese 59 + Gliese 67 + 107 Piscium + + OLDER POPULATION I (4 TO 6 BILLION YEARS OLD) + Tau 1 Eridani + Tau Ceti + Alpha Mensae + Gliese 95 + Kappa Fornax + 54 Piscium + Sun + + DISK POPULATION II (6 TO 8 BILLION YEARS OLD) + Zeta 1 Reticuli + Zeta 2 Reticuli + + INTERMEDIATE POPULATION II (ABOUT 10 BILLION YEARS OLD) + Zeta Tucanae + Gliese 86 + Gliese 86.1 + 82 Eridani + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + According to this classification system (based on one by A. Blaauw), + most of the 16 stars are in the same class as the sun --implying that + they are roughly of the same composition and age as the sun. The sun + would seem to be a natural unit for use in comparing the chemical + compositions and ages of the stars of the Fish-Hill pattern because it + is, after all, the standard upon which we base our selection of stars + capable of supporting life. + + Three stars (Gliese 59, 67 and 68) are known as Old Population I and + are almost certainly younger than the sun. They also probably have a + higher metal content than the sun, although specific data is not + available. The Disk Population II stars are perhaps two to four billion + years older than the sun, while the Intermediate Population II are + believed to be a billion or two years older still. + + For main sequence stars like the sun, as all these stars are, it is + generally believed that after the star is formed and settled on the + main sequence no mixing between the outer layers and the thermo-nuclear + core occurs. Thus the composition of the outer layers of a star, (from + which we receive the star's light) must have essentially the same + composition as the interstellar medium out of which the star and its + planets were formed. + + Terrestrial planets are composed primarily of heavy elements. The + problem is: If there is a shortage of heavy elements in the primeval + nebula, would terrestrial planets be able to form? At present, theories + of planetary formation are unable to state for certain what the + composition of the cloud must be in order for terrestrial planets to + materialize, although it is agreed to be unlikely that Population II + stars should have terrestrial planets. But for objects somewhere + between Population I and II -- especially Disk Population II -- no one + really knows. + + Although we can't be certain of determining whether a star of + intermediate metal deficiencies can have planets or not, we can make + certain of the existence of metal deficiencies in those stars. The + eccentricities and inclinations of the galactic orbits of the Fish-Hill + stars provide the next step in the information sequence. + + The table above also shows that the stars Gliese 136, 138, 139, 86 + and 71 have the highest eccentricities and inclinations in their + galactic orbits. This further supports the Population II nature of + these four stars. According to B.E.J. Pagel of the Royal Greenwich + Observatory in England, the correlation between eccentricity and the + metal/hydrogen ratio is better than that between the W-velocity and the + metal/hydrogen ratio. It is interesting to see how closely the values + of eccentricity seem to correspond with Population type as derived from + W-velocity -- Old Population I objects having the lowest values. Since + the two methods give similar results, we can lend added weight to our + classification. + + So far all the evidence for metal deficiencies has been suggestive; + no direct evidence has been given. However, specific data can be + obtained from spectroscopic analysis. The system for which the best set + of data exists also happens to be one of the most important stars of + the pattern, Zeta 1 Reticuli. In 1966, J.D. Danziger of Harvard + University published results of work he had done on Zeta 1 Reticuli + using wide-scan spectroscopy. He did indeed find metal deficiencies in + the star: carbon, 0.2, compared to our sun; magnesium, 0.4; calcium, + 0.5; titanium, 0.4; chromium, 0.3; manganese, 0.4; iron, 0.4; cobalt, + 0.4; nickel, 0.2, and so on. + + In spite of the possible error range of about 25 percent, there is a + consistent trend of metal deficiencies -- with Zeta 1 Reticuli having + less than half the heavy elements per unit mass that the sun does. + Because Zeta 1 Reticuli has common proper motion and parallax with Zeta + 2 Reticuli, it probably also has the same composition. Work done by + M.E. Dixon of the University of Edinburgh showing the two stars to have + virtually identical characteristics tends to support this. + + The evidence that the Zeta Reticuli system is metal deficient is + definite. From this knowledge of metal deficiency and the velocities + and eccentricities, we can safely conclude that the Zeta Reticuli + system is older than the sun. The question of terrestrial planets being + able to form remains open. + + The other two stars which have high velocities and eccentricities + are 82 Eridani (Gliese 139) and Gliese 86. Because the velocities of + these stars are higher than those of Zeta Reticuli, larger metal + deficiencies might be expected. For the case of Gliese 86, no + additional information is presently available. However, some + theoretical work has been done on 82 Eridani concerning metal + abundances by J. Hearnshaw of France's Meudon Observatory. + + Although 82 Eridani is a high velocity star, its orbit lies largely + within the galactic plane, and also within the solar orbit. Its orbit + is characteristic of the Old Disk Population, and an ultraviolet excess + indicates only a mild metal deficiency compared to the sun. Hearnshaw's + conclusions indicate that the metal deficiency does not appear to be + any worse than that of the Zeta Reticuli pair. + + Because Gliese 86 has a velocity, eccentricity and inclination + similar to 82 Eridani, it seems likely that its chemical composition + may also not have severe metal deficiencies, but be similar to those of + 82 Eridani. + + Tau Ceti appears to be very much like the sun except for slight + deficiencies of most metals in rarely seen abnormal abundances of + magnesium, titanium, silicon and calcium. Stars in this class are known + as alpha-rich stars, but such properties do not appear to make Tau Ceti + unlikely to have planets similar to the sun's. + + Tau 1 Eridani, an F6V star, has a life expectancy of 4.5 billion + years -- so it cannot be older than the sun. The low eccentricities and + low moderate velocity support an age and composition near that of the + sun. + + Gliese 67 is a young star of at least solar metal abundances, + considering its low velocity and eccentricity. + + Having covered most of the stars either directly or simply by + classifying them among the different Population classes, it is apparent + that there is a wide age range among different stars of this group as + well as a range of compositions. It is curious that the stars connected + by the alleged "trade routes" (solid lines) are the older and + occasionally metal deficient ones --while the stars connected by dotted + lines seem to be younger Population I objects. + + A final point concerning the metal deficiencies is rather + disturbing. Even though terrestrial planets might form about either + star in the Zeta Reticuli system, there is a specific deficiency in + carbon to well within the error range. This is disturbing because + carbon is the building block of organic molecule chains. There is no + way of knowing whether life on Earth would have emerged and evolved as + far as it has if carbon were not as common here. + + Another problem: If planets formed but lacked large quantities of + useful industrial elements, could a technical civilization arise? If + the essential elements were scarce or locked up in chemical compounds, + then an advanced technology would be required to extract them. But the + very shortage of these elements in the first place might prevent this + technology from being realized. The dolphins are an example of an + intelligent but nontechnical race. They do not have the means to + develop technology. Perhaps some land creatures on another planet are + in a comparable position by not having the essential elements for + technological development. (This theme is explored in detail in "What + Chariots of Which Gods?", August 1974.) + + This whole speculation certainly is not strong enough to rule out + the Fish interpretation of the Hill map given our present state of + knowledge. Actually in some respects, the metal deficiencies support + the Fish hypothesis because they support an advanced age for several of + the stars -- suggesting that if cultures exist in these star systems, + they might well be advanced over our own. + + The fact that none of the stars in the pattern is seriously metal + deficient (especially the vital branch high velocity stars 82 Eridani + and Gliese 86) is an encouragement to the Fish interpretation -- if + terrestrial planets can form in the first place and give rise to + technical civilizations. Once again we are confronted with evidence + which seems to raise as many questions as it answers. But the search + for answers to such questions certainly can only advance knowledge of + our cosmic environment. + + Jeffrey L. Kretsch is an astronomy student at Northwestern University + working under the advisement of Dr. J. Allen Hynek. For more than a + year Kretsch has been actively pursuing follow-up studies to the + astronomical aspects of the Fish-Hill map. More of his studies and + comments appear in In Focus. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + COMMENTARY + + Editor's Preface + + + The lead article in the December 1974 issue of ASTRONOMY, entitled + "The Zeta Reticuli Incident", centered on interpretation of a map + allegedly seen inside an extraterrestrial spacecraft. The intent of the + article was to expose to our readers a rare instance where astronomical + techniques have been used to analyze a key element in a so-called + "close encounter" UFO incident. While not claiming that the analysis of + the map was proof of a visit by extraterrestrials, we feel the + astronomical aspects of the case are sufficiently intriguing to warrant + wide dissemination and further study. + + The following notes contain detailed follow-up commentary and + information directly related to that article. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + PATTERN RECOGNITION & ZETA RETICULI + + By Carl Sagan & Steven Soter + + + "The Zeta Reticuli Incident" is very provocative. It claims that a + map, allegedly shown on board a landed extraterrestrial spacecraft to + Betty Hill in 1961, later drawn by her from memory and published in + 1966, corresponds well to similar maps of the closest stars resembling + the sun based on stellar positions in the 1969 Gliese Catalog of Nearby + Stars. The comparison maps were made by Marjorie Fish using a three + dimensional physical model and later by a group of Ohio State + University students using a presumably more accurate (i.e., less + subjective) computer generated projection. The argument rests on how + well the maps agree and on the statistical significance of the + comparison. + + Figure 1 [not available here] show the Hill map and the Ohio State + computer map with connecting lines as given in the ASTRONOMY article. + The inclusion of these lines (said to represent trade or navigation + routes) to establish a resemblance between the maps is what a lawyer + would call "leading the witness". We could just as well have drawn + lines as in the bottom of Figure 1 to lead the other way. A less biased + comparison of the two data sets, without connecting lines as in Figure + 2, shows little similarity. Any residual resemblance is enhanced by + there being the same number of points in each map, and can be accounted + for by the manner in which these points were selected. + + The computer star map includes the sun and 14 stars selected from a + list of the 46 nearest stars similar to the sun, derived from the + Gliese catalog. It is not clear what criteria were used to select + precisely these 14 stars from the list, other than the desire to find a + resemblance to the Hill map. However, we can always pick and choose + from a large random data set some subset that resembles a preconceived + pattern. If we are free also to select the vantage point (from all + possible directions for viewing the projection of a three dimensional + pattern), it is a simple matter to optimize the desired resemblance. Of + course such a resemblance in the case of selection from a random set is + a contrivance -- an example of the statistical fallacy known as "the + enumeration of favorable circumstances". + + The presence of such a fallacy in this case appears even more likely + when we examine the original Hill drawing, published in The Interrupted + Journey by John Fuller. In addition to the prominent points that Betty + Hill connected by lines, her map also includes a number of apparently + random dots scattered about --evidently to represent the presence of + background stars but not meant to suggest actual positions. However, + three of these dots appear in the version of the Hill map used in the + comparison, while the others are absent. Thus some selection was made + even from the original Hill map, although not to the same extent as + from the Gliese catalog. This allow even greater freedom to contrive a + resemblance. + + Finally, we lear from The Interrupted Journey that Betty Hill first + thought she saw a remarkable similarity between her UFO star map and a + map of the constellation Pegasus published in the New York Times in + 1965 to show the position of the quasar CTA-102. How many star maps, + derived from the Gliese catalog or elsewhere, have been compared with + Betty Hill's before a supposed agreement was found? If we suppress + information on such comparisons we also overestimate the significance + of the result. + + The argument on "The Zeta Reticuli Incident" demonstrates only that + if we set out to find a pattern correlation between two nearly random + data sets by selecting at will certain elements from each and ignoring + others, we will always be successful. The argument cannot serve even to + suggest a verification of the Hill story -- which in any case is well + known to be riddled with internal and external contradictions, and + which is amenable to interpretations which do not invoke + extraterrestrial intelligence. Those of us concerned with the + possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence must take care to demand + adequately rigorous standards of evidence. It is all too easy, as the + old Chinese proverb says, for the imprisoned maiden to mistake the + beating of her own heart for the hoof beats of her rescuer's horse. + + + Steven Soter is a research associate working under the advisement of + Carl Sagan, director of Cornell University's laboratory for Planetary + Studies. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + REPLY: By Terence Dickinson + + + The question raised by Steven Soter and Carl Sagan concerning the + pattern resemblance of the Hill map and the computer generated + projection of the Fish pattern stars is certainly a key question worthy + of discussion. Next month two authors will make specific comments on + this point. + + Briefly, there is more to discounting the Fish interpretation than + pattern resemblance. We would have discounted the Fish interpretation + immediately on pattern resemblance alone. The fact that all the + connecting lines join stars in a logical distance progression, and that + all the stars are solar type stars, is significant. Ms. Fish tried to + fit hundreds of other viewpoints and this one was the only one that + even marginally fit and made sense in three dimensions and contained + solar type stars. in this context, you could not "have just as well + drawn the lines...to lead the other way". + + Naturally there was a desire to find a resemblance between a group + of nearby stars and the Hill pattern! That's why Marjorie Fish built + six models of the solar neighborhood containing the relative positions + of up to 256 nearby stars. The fact that she came up with a pattern + that fits as well as it does is a tribute to her perseverance and the + accuracy of the models. Stars cannot be moved around "to optimize the + desired resemblance". Indeed Marjorie Fish first tried models using + nearby stars of other than strictly solar type as defined in the + article. She found no resemblances. + + The three triangle dots selected from the background dots in the + Hill map were selected because Mrs. Hill said they were more prominent + than the other background stars. Such testimony was the basis of the + original map so we either accept Mrs. Hill's observations and attempt + to analyze them or reject the whole incident. We feel there is + sufficient evidence compelling us not to reject the whole incident at + this time. + + We too are demanding rigorous standards of evidence to establish the + reality of extraterrestrial intelligence. If there is even the + slightest possibility that the Hills' encounter can provide information + about such life, we feel it is worth pursuing. The map is worthy of + examination by as many critical minds as possible. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + REPLY: By David R. Saunders + + Last month, Steven Soter and Carl Sagan offered two counterarguments + relating to Terence Dickinson's article, "The Zeta Reticuli Incident" + (ASTRONOMY, December 1974). + + Their first argument was to observe that the inclusion of connecting + lines in certain maps "is what a lawyer would call 'leading the + witness'." This was used as the minor premise in a syllogism for which + the major premise was never stated. Whether we should consider "leading + the witness" a sin or not will depend on how we conceive the purpose of + the original article. The implied analogy between ASTRONOMY magazine + and a court of law is tenuous at best; an expository article written + for a nonprofessional audience is entitled, in my opinion, to do all it + can to facilitate communication -- assuming that the underlying message + is honest. Much of what we call formal education is really little more + than "leading the witness", and no one who accepts the educational + goals objects very strongly to this process. In this context, we may + also observe that Soter's and Sagan's first argument provides another + illustrative example of "leading the witness"; the argument attacks + procedure, not substance -- and serves only to blunt the reader's + possible criticism of the forthcoming second argument. This paragraph + may also be construed as an effort to lead the witness. Once we have + been sensitized to the possibilities, none of us needs to be further + misled! + + The second argument offered by Soter and Sagan does attack a + substance. Indeed, the editorial decision to publish the original + article was a responsible decision only if the issues raised by this + second line of possible argument were fully considered. Whenever a + statistical inference is made from selected data, it is crucial to + determine the strenuousness of that selection and then to appropriately + discount the apparent clarity of the inference. By raising the issue of + the possible effects of selection, Soter and Sagan are right on target. + However, by failing to treat the matter with quantitative objectivity + (by failing to weigh the evidence in each direction numerically, for + example), they might easily perform a net disservice. + + In some situations, the weight of the appropriate discount will + suffice to cancel the clarity of a proposed inference -- and we will + properly dismiss the proposal as a mere capitalization on chance, or a + lucky outcome. (It is abundantly clear that Soter and Sagan regard the + star map results as just such a fortuitous outcome.) In some other + situations, the weight of the appropriate discount may be fully applied + without accounting for the clarity of the inference as a potentially + valid discovery. For example, if I proposed to infer from four + consecutive coin tosses observed as heads that the coin would always + yield heads, you would properly dismiss this proposal as unwarranted by + the data. However, if I proposed exactly the same inference based on 40 + similar consecutive observations of heads, you would almost certainly + accept the inference and begin looking with me for a more systematic + explanation of the data. The crucial difference here is the purely + quantitative distinction between 4 and 40; the two situations are + otherwise identical and cannot be distinguished by any purely + qualitative argument. + + When Soter and Sagan use phrases such as "some subset that + resembles", "free also to select the vantage point", "simple matter to + optimize", and "freedom to contrive a resemblance", they are speaking + qualitatively about matters that should (and can) be treated + quantitatively. Being based only on this level of argument, Soter's and + Sagan's conclusions can only be regarded as inconclusive. + + A complete quantitative examination of this problem will require the + numerical estimation of at least three factors, and their expression in + a uniform metric so that wee can see which way the weight of the + evidence is leaning. The most convenient common metric will be that of + "bits of information", which is equivalent to counting consecutive + heads in the previous example. + One key factor is the degree of resemblance between the Hill + map and the optimally similar computer-drawn map. Precisely how + many consecutive heads is this resemblance equivalent to? A + second key factor is the precise size of the population of stars + from which the computer was allowed to make its selection. And a + third key factor is the precise dimensionality of the space in + which the computer was free to choose the best vantage point. If + the first factor exceeds the sum of the other two by a sufficient + margin, we are justified in insisting on a systematic explanation + for the data. + + The third factor is the easiest to deal with. The dimensionality of + the vantage-point space is not more than three. A property of the + metric system for weighing evidence is that each independent dimension + of freedom leads us to expect the equivalent of one more consecutive + head in the observed data. Three dimensions of freedom are worth + exactly 3.0 bits. In the end, even three bits will be seen as + relatively minor. + + The second factor might be much larger than this, and deserve + relatively more discussion. The appropriate discount for this selection + will be log2C, where C is the number of distinct combinations of stars + "available" to the computer. If we were to agree that C must represent + the possible combinations of 46 stars taken 14 at a time, then log2C + would be 37.8 bits; this would be far more than enough to kill the + proposed inference. However, not all these combinations are equally + plausible. We really should consider only combinations that are + adjacent to one another and to the sun, but it is awkward to try to + specify exactly which combinations these are. + + The really exciting moment in working with these data came with the + realization that in the real universe, our sun belongs to a closed + cluster together with just six of the other admissible stars -- Tau + Ceti, 82 Eridani, Zeta Tucanae, Alpha Mensae, and Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 + Reticuli. The real configuration of interstellar distances is such that + an explorer starting from any of the seven should visit all of them + before venturing outside. If the Hill map is assumed to include the + sun, then it should include the other members of this cluster within an + unbroken network of connections, and the other connected stars should + be relatively adjacent in the real universe. + + Zeta Reticuli occupies a central position in all of the relatively + few combinations that now remain plausible. However, in my opinion, the + adjacency criteria do leave some remnant ambiguity concerning the + combination of real stars to be matched against the Hill map -- but + only with respect to the region farthest from the sun. The stars in the + closed cluster and those in the chain leading to Gliese 67 must be + included, as well as Gliese 86 and two others from a set of five + candidates. Log2C for this remnant selection is 3.9 bits. we must also + notice that the constraint that Zeta Tucanae be occulted by Zeta + Reticuli reduces the dimensionality of the vantage-point space from 3.0 + to 1.0. Thus, the sum of factors two and three is now estimated as only + 4.9 bits. + + The first factor is also awkward to evaluate -- simply because there + is no standard statistical technique for comparing points on two maps. + Using an approximation based on rank-order correlation, I've guessed + that the number we seek here is between 11 and 16. (This is the result + cited by Dickinson on page 15 of the original article.) Deducting the + second and third factors, this rough analysis leaves us with an + empirical result whose net meaning is equivalent to observing at least + 6 to 11 consecutive heads. (I say "at least", because there are other + factors contributing to the total picture -- not discussed either by + Dickinson or by Soter and Sagan -- that could be adduced to enhance + this figure. For example, the computed vantage point is in good + agreement with Betty Hill's reported position when observing the map, + and the coordinate system implicit in the boundaries of the map is in + good agreement with a natural galactic coordinate system. Neither have + we discussed any quantitative use of the connections drawn on the Hill + map, which were put there in advance of any of these analyses.) + + In the final interpretation, it will always be possible to argue + that 5 or 10 or even 15 bits of remarkable information simply isn't + enough. However, this is a matter for each of us to decide + independently. In deciding this matter, it is more important that we be + consistent with ourselves (as we review a large number of uncertain + interpretations of data that we have made) than that we be in agreement + with some external authority. I do believe, though, that relatively few + individuals will continue a coin-tossing match in which their total + experience is equivalent to even six consecutive losses. In scientific + matters, my own standard is that I'm interested in any result that has + five or more bits of information supporting it -- though I prefer not + to stick my neck out publicly on the basis of less than 10. Adhering to + this standard, I continue to find the star map results exceedingly + interesting. + + Dr. David R. Saunders is a Research Associate at the University of + Chicago's Industrial Relations Center. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + REPLY: By Michael Peck + + Carl Sagan and Steven Soter, in challenging the possibilities + discussed in "The Zeta Reticuli Incident", suggest that without the + connecting lines drawn into the Hill map and the Fish interpretation + there is little resemblance between the two. This statement can be + tested using only X and Y coordinates of the points in the Hill map and + a projection of the stars in the Fish pattern. The method used for the + comparison can be visualized this way: + + Suppose points of the Hill map and the Fish map are plotted on + separate glass plates. These plates are held parallel (one behind the + other), and are moved back and forth and rotated until the patterns + appear as nearly as possible to match. A systematic way of comparing + the patterns would be to adjust the plates until corresponding pairs of + points match exactly. Then the other points in the patterns can be + compared. Repeating this process for all the possible pairs of points + (there are 105 in this case), the best fit can be found. + Mathematically, this involves a change of scale and a simple coordinate + transformation. A computer program was written which, using X and Y + coordinates measured from a copy of the Hill map and a projection of + the Fish stars, and using the Hill map as the standard, computed new X + and Y coordinates for the Fish stars using the process described. From + these two sets of coordinates, six quantities were calculated: the + average difference in X and Y; the standard deviation of the + differences in X and Y, a measure of the amount of variation of the + differences; and correlation coefficients in X and Y. The coefficient + of correlation is a quantity used by statisticians to test a suspected + relation between two sets of data. In this case, for instance, we + suspect that the X and Y coordinates computed from the Fish map should + equal the X and Y coordinates of the Hill map. If they matched exactly, + the correlation coefficients would be one. If there were no correlation + at all, the value would be near zero. We found that, for the best + fitting orientation of the Fish stars, there was a correlation + coefficient in X of 0.95 and in Y of 0.91. In addition, the average + difference and the standard deviation of the differences were both + small -- about 1/10 the total range in X and Y. As a comparison, the + same program was run for a set of random points, with resulting + correlation coefficients of 1/10 or less (as was expected). We can + conclude, therefore, that the degree of resemblance between the two + maps is fairly high. + + From another point of view, it is possible to compute the + probability that a random set of points will coincide with the Hill map + to the degree of accuracy observed here. The probability that 15 points + chosen at random will fall on the points of the Hill map within an + error range which would make them as close as the Fish map is about one + chance in 10 to the fifteenth power (one million billion). It is 1,000 + times more probable that a person could predict a bridge hand dealt + from a fair deck. + + Michael Peck is an astronomy student at Northwestern University in + Illinois. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + REBUTTAL: To David Saunders and Michael Peck + By Carl Sagan and Steven Soter + + Dr. David Saunders last month claimed to have demonstrated the + statistical significance of the Hill map, which was allegedly found on + board a landed UFO and supposedly depicted the sun and 14 nearby + sunlike stars. The Hill map was said to resemble the Fish map -- the + latter being an optimal two-dimensional projection of a three- + dimensional model prepared by selecting 14 stars from a positional list + of the 46 nearest known sunlike stars. Saunders' argument can be + expressed by the equation SS = Dr -(SF + VP), in which all quantities + are in information bits. SS is the statistical significance of the + correlation between the two maps, DR is the degree of resemblance + between them, SF is a selection factor depending on the number of stars + chosen and the size of the list, and VP is the information content + provided by a free choice in three dimensions of the vantage point for + projecting the map. Saunders finds SS = 6 to 11 bits, meaning that the + correlation is equivalent to between 6 and 11 consecutive heads in a + coin toss and therefore probably not accidental. The procedure is + acceptable in principle, but the result depends entirely on how the + quantities on the right-hand side of the equation were chosen. + + For the degree of resemblance between the two maps, Saunders claims + that DR = 11 to 16 bits, which he admits is only a guess -- but we will + let it stand. For the selection factor, he at first takes SF = log2C = + 37.8 bits, where C represents the combinations of 46 things taken 14 at + a time. Realizing that the size of this factor alone will cause SS to + be negative and wipe out his argument, he makes a number of ad hoc + adjustments based essentially on his interpretation of the internal + logic of the Hill map, and SF somehow gets reduced to only 3.9 bits. + For the present, we will let even that stand in order to avoid becoming + embroiled in a discussion of how an explorer from the star Zeta + Reticuli would choose to arrange his/her/its travel itinerary --a + matter about which we can claim no particular knowledge. However, we + must bear in mind that a truly unprejudiced examination of the data + with no a priori interpretations would give SF = 37.8 bits. + + It is Saunders' choice of the vantage point factor VP with which we + must take strongest issue, for this is a matter of geometry and simple + pattern recognition. Saunders assumes that free choice of the vantage + point for viewing a three-dimensional model of 15 stars is worth only + VP = 3 bits. He then reduces the information content of directionality + to one bit by introducing the "constraint" that the star Zeta Tucanae + be occulted by Zeta Reticuli (with no special notation on the Hill map + to mark this peculiarity). This ad hoc device is invoked to explain the + absence of Zeta Tucanae from the Hill map, but it reveals the circular + reasoning involved. After all, why bother to calculate the statistical + significance of the supposed map correlation if one has already decided + which points represent which stars? + + Certainly the selection of vantage point is worth more than three + bits (not to mention one bit). Probably the easiest circumstance to + recognize and remember about random projections of the model in + question are the cases in which two stars appear to be immediately + adjacent. By viewing the model from all possible directions, there are + 14 distinct ways in which any given star can be seen in projection as + adjacent to some other star. This can be done for each of the 15 stars, + giving 210 projected configurations -- each of which would be + recognized as substantially different from the others in information + content. And of course there are many additional distinct recognizable + projections of the 15 stars not involving any two being immediately + adjacent. (For example, three stars nearly equidistant in a straight + line are easily recognized, as in Orion's belt.) Thus for a very + conservative lower bound, the information content determined by choice + of vantage point (that is, by being allowed to rotate the model about + three axes) can be taken as at least equal to VP = log2(210) = 7.7 + bits. Using the rest of Saunders' analysis, this would at best yield SS + = zero to 4.4 bits -- not a very impressive correlation. + + There is another way to understand the large number of bits involved + in the choice of the vantage point. The stars in question are separated + by distances of order 10 parsecs. If the vantage point is situated + above or not too far from the 15 stars, it need only be shifted by + about 0.17 parsecs to cause a change of one degree in the angle + subtended by some pair of stars. Now one degree is a very modest + resolution, corresponding to twice the full moon and is easily detected + by anyone. For three degrees of freedom, the number of vantage points + corresponding to this resolution is of order (10/0.17) cubed ~ (60) + cubed ~ 2 X 10 to the fifth power, corresponding to VP = 17.6 bits. + This factor alone is sufficient to make SS negative, and to wipe out + any validity to the supposed correlation. + + Even if we were to accept Saunders' claim that SS = 6 to 11 bits + (which we obviously do not, particularly in view of the proper value + for SF), it is not at all clear that this would be statistically + significant because we are not told how many other possible + correlations were tried and failed before the Fish map was devised. For + comparison, there is the well-known correlation between the incidence + of Andean earthquakes and oppositions of the planet Uranus. It is + unlikely in the extreme that there is a physical causal mechanism + operating here -- among other reasons, because there is no correlation + with oppositions of Jupiter, Saturn or Neptune. But to have found such + a correlation the investigator must have sought a wide variety of + correlations of seismic events in many parts of the world with + oppositions and conjunctions of many astronomical objects. If enough + correlations are sought, statistics requires that eventually one will + be found, valid to any level of significance that we wish. Before we + can determine whether a claimed correlation implies a causal + connection, we must convince ourselves that the number of correlations + sought has not been so large as to make the claimed correlation + meaningless. + + This point can be further illustrated by Saunders' example of + flipping coins. Suppose we flip a coin once per second for several + hours. Now let us consider three cases: two heads in a row, 10 heads in + a row, and 40 heads in a row. We would, of course, think there is + nothing extraordinary about the first case. Only four attempts at + flipping two coins are required to have a reasonable expectation value + of two heads in a row. Ten heads in a row, however, will occur only + once in every 2 to the tenth power = 1,024 trials, and 40 heads in a + row will occur only once every 2 to the fortieth ~ 10 to the twelfth + power trials. At a flip rate of one coin per second, a toss of 10 coins + requires 10 seconds; 1,024 trials of 10 coins each requires just under + three hours. But 40 heads in a row at the same rate requires 4 X 10 to + the thirteenth power seconds or a little over a million years. A run of + 40 consecutive heads in a few hours of coin tossing would certainly be + strong prima facie evidence of the ability to control the fall of the + coin. Ten heads in a row under the circumstances we have described + would provide no convincing evidence at all. It is expected by the law + of probability. The Hill map correlation is at best claimed by Saunders + to be in the category of 10 heads in a row, but with no clear statement + as to the number of unsuccessful trials previously attempted. + + Michael Peck finds a high degree of correlation between the Hill map + and the Fish map, and thereby also misses the central point of our + original criticism: that the stars in the Fish map were already + preselected in order to maximize that very correlation. Peck finds one + chance in 10 to the fifteenth power that 15 random points will + correlate with the Fish map as well as the Hill map does. However, had + he selected 15 out of a random sample of, say, 46 points in space, and + had he simultaneously selected the optimal vantage point in three + dimensions in order to maximize the resemblance, he could have achieved + an apparent correlation comparable to that which he claims between the + Hill and Fish maps. Indeed, the statistical fallacy involved in "the + enumeration of favorable circumstances" leads necessarily to large, but + spurious correlations. + + We again conclude that the Zeta Reticuli argument and the entire + Hill story do not survive critical scrutiny. + + Dr. Steven Soter is a research associate in astronomy and Dr. Carl + Sagan is director of the Laboratory for Planetary Studies, both at + Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + IS THE FISH INTERPRETATION UNIQUE? + + By Robert Sheaffer + + The story of Marjorie Fish's attempts at identifying the star + patterns sketched by Betty Hill was told in "The Zeta Reticuli + Incident" by Terence Dickinson in the December 1974 issue. This pattern + of solar type stars unquestionably bears a striking resemblance to the + map that Betty Hill says she saw while she was being examined aboard a + flying saucer. But how significant is this resemblance? Is there only + one pattern of stars which will match the sketch convincingly? + + Betty Hill herself discovered an impressive resemblance in a star + map published in the New York Times. In 1965 a map of the stars of the + constellation Pegasus appeared in that newspaper, accompanying the + announcement by a Russian radio astronomer (Comrade Sholomitsky) the + radio source CTA-102, depicted in the map, may be sending out + intelligent radio signals. Intrigued by this remarkable claim, Betty + Hill studied the map, and added the corresponding star names to her + sketch. As you can see, the Pegasus map -- while not exactly like the + sketch -- is impressively similar. If CTA-102 -- appearing near the + "globes" in her sketch -- was in reality an artificial radio source, + that would give the Pegasus map much additional credibility. + + However, the case for the artificial origin of quasar CTA-102 soon + fell flat. Other scientists were unable to observe these reported + strange variations which had caused Sholomitsky to suggest that CTA-102 + might be pulsing intelligently. + + In 1966, when Marjorie Fish was just beginning her work, Charles W. + Atterberg (employed by an aeronautical communications firm in Illinois) + also set out to attempt to identify this star pattern. + + "I began my search by perusing a star atlas I had on hand," + Atterberg explained. "I soon realized that this was a pointless and + futile project." Any star pattern useful for interstellar navigation, + he reasoned, would not be Earth-centered as are the familiar + constellation figures. Thus Atterberg began to look in three dimensions + for a pattern of stars that would approximate the Hill sketch. + + Working from a list of the nearest stars, Atterberg "began plotting + these stars as they would be seen from various directions. I did this + by drawing the celestial position of a star, I would draw a straight + line penetrating the sphere at a known position, and measure out to the + distance of the star...It at first took me hours to plot this out from + any one particular direction." + + When plotting the stars as seen from a position indefinitely far + away on the celestial equator at 17 hours right ascension, Atterberg + found a pattern of stars conspicuously similar to the Hill sketch. + After much work he refined this position to 17 hours 30 minutes right + ascension, -10 degrees declination. The resulting map resembles the + Hill sketch even more strongly than does the Fish map, and it contains + a greater number of stars. Furthermore, all of the stars depicted in + the Atterberg map lie within 18.2 light-years of the sun. The Fish map + reaches out 53 light-years, where our knowledge of stellar distances is + much less certain. + + Carl Sagan states in Intelligent Life in the Universe that, + excluding multiple star systems, "the three nearest stars of potential + biological interest are Epsilon Eridani, Epsilon Indi and Tau Ceti." + These three stars from the heart of the Atterberg map, defining the two + spheres in the very center of the heavy lines that supposedly represent + the major "trade routes" of the "UFOnauts". Epsilon Eridani and Tau + Ceti were the two stars listened to by Project Ozma, the pioneering + radio search for intelligent civilization in space. + + Other heavy lines connect the spheres with the sun, which we know + has at least one habitable planet. Thinner lines, supposedly + representing places visited less frequently, connect with Groombridge + 1618, Groombridge 34, 61 Cygni and Sigma Draconis, which are designated + as stars "that could have habitable planets" in Stephen H. Dole's Rand + Corporation study, Habitable Planets for Man. Of the 11 stars (not + counting the sun) that have allegedly been visited by the aliens, seven + of them appear on Dole's list. Three of the four stars which are not + included are stopping points on the trip to Sigma Draconis, which Dole + considered to have even better prospects than Epsilon Eridani or + Epsilon Indi for harboring a habitable planet. + + Another remarkable aspect of the Atterberg map is the fact that its + orientation, unlike the Fish map, is not purely arbitrary. Gould's belt + -- a concentration of the sky's brightest stars -- is exactly + perpendicular to the plane of the Atterberg map. Furthermore, it is + vertical in orientation; it does not cut obliquely across the map, but + runs exactly up and down. A third curious coincidence: The southpole of + the Atterberg map points toward the brightest part of Gould's belt, in + the constellation Carina. The bright stars comprising Gould's belt + might well serve as a useful reference frame for interstellar + travelers, and it is quite plausible that they might base a + navigational coordinate system upon it. + + No other map interpreting the Hill sketch offers any rationale for + its choice of perspectives. The problem with trying to interpret Betty + Hill's sketch is that it simply fits too many star patterns. Three such + patterns have been documented to date. How many more exist + undiscovered? + + Robert Sheaffer is a computer systems programmer currently working at + NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, MD. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + REPLY: By Marjorie Fish + + Basically, Robert Sheaffer's contention is that at least three + patterns can be found that are similar to Betty Hill's map, and + therefore, more such interpretations are likely. If one stipulates that + any stars from any vantage point can be used, then I agree that many + patterns can be found similar to the map. However, if one uses + restrictions on the type of stars, according to their probability of + having planets and also on the logic of the apparent travel paths, then + it is much more difficult. The three maps were: (1) Betty Hill's + interpretation of the constellation Pegasus as being similar to her + map, (2) Charles Atterberg's work, and (3) my work. + + When I started the search, I made a number of restrictions + including: + + 1) The sun had to be part of the pattern with a line connected to it, + since the leader of the aliens indicated this to Betty. + + 2) Since they came to our solar system, they should also be interested + in solar type stars (single main sequence G, probablyalso late + single main sequence F and early single main sequence K). These + stars should not be bypassed if they are in the same general volume + of space. + + 3) Since there are a number of the above stars relatively near the sun + and the pattern shows only 12 stars, the pattern would have to be + relatively close to us (or else they would be bypassing sunlike + stars, which is illogical). + + 4) The travel pattern itself should be logical. That is, they would + not zip out 300 light-years, back to 10 light-years, then out + 1,000, etc. The moves should make a logical progression. + + 5) Large young main sequence stars (O, B, A, early F) which are + unlikely to have planets and/or life would not be likely to be + visited. + + 6) Stars off the main sequence with the possible exception of those + just starting off the main sequence would probably be avoided as + they are unsuitable for life and, due to their variability, could + be dangerous. + + 7) If they go to one star of a given type, it shows interest in that + type star -- so they should go to other stars of that type if they + are in the same volume of space. An exception to this might be the + closest stars to the base star, which they might investigate out of + curiosity in the early stages of stellar travel. For example, they + would not be likely to bypass five red dwarfs to stop at the sixth, + if all six were approximately equal in size, spectra, singleness or + multiplicity, etc. Or, if they go to one close G double, they would + probably go to other close G doubles. + + 8) The base star or stars is one or both of the large circles with the + lines radiating from it. + + 9) One or both of the base stars should be suitable for life -- F8 to + K5 using the lowest limits given by exobiologists, or more likely, + K1 given by Dole. + + l---L---l1----+-T--2----T----3--l-+----4T---+---T5----+-T--6----T----7--T-J-r-r + 10) Because the base stars are represented as such large circles, they + are either intrinsically bigger or brighter than the rest or they + are closer to the map's surface (the viewer) than the rest -- + probably the latter. This was later confirmed by Betty Hill. Mrs. + Hill's interpretation of Pegasus disregards all of these criteria. + + Atterberg's work is well done. His positioning of the stars is + accurate. He complies with criteria 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 and 8; fairly well + with 4; less well with 9, and breaks down on 7 and 10. I will discuss + the last three of Atterberg's differences with my basic criteria in the + following paragraphs: + + Relative to point 9, his base stars are Epsilon Indi and Epsilon + Eridani, both of which are near the lower limit for life bearing + planets -- according to most exobiologists -- and not nearly as + suitable as Zeta 1 and 2 Reticuli. + + Concerning point 7, I had ruled out the red dwarfs fairly early + because there were so many of them and there were only 12 lined points + on the Hill map. If one used red dwarfs in logical consecutive order, + all the lines were used up before the sun was reached. Atterberg used + red dwarfs for some of his points to make the map resemble Betty Hill's + but he bypassed equally good similar red dwarfs to reach them. If they + were interested in red dwarfs, there should have been lines going to + Gliese 65 (Luyten 76208) which lies near Tau Ceti and about the same + distance from Epsilon Eridani as Tau Ceti, and Gliese 866 (Luyten 789- + 6) which is closer to Tau Ceti than the sun. Gliese 1 (CD-37 15492) and + Gliese 887 (CD-36 15693) are relatively close to Epsilon Indi. These + should have been explored first before red dwarfs farther away. + + Red dwarfs Gliese 406 (Wolf 359) and Gliese 411 (BD + 36 2147) were + by passed to reach Groombridge 1618 and Ross 128 from the sun. + Barnard's star would be the most logical first stop out from the sun, + if one were to stop at red dwarfs, as it is the closest single M and is + known to have planets. + + Since Atterberg's pattern stars include a number of relatively close + doubles (61 Cygni, Struve 2398, Groombridge 34 and Kruger 60), there + should also be a line to Alpha Centauri --but there is not. + + Relating to point 10, Atterberg's base stars are not the largest or + brightest of his pattern stars. The sun, Tau Ceti, and Sigma Draconis + are brighter. Nor are they closer to the viewer. The sun and 61 Cygni + are much closer to the viewer than Epsilon Eridani. The whole + orientation feels wrong because the base stars are away from the viewer + and movement is along the lines toward the viewer. (Betty Hill told me + that she tried to show the size and depth of the stars by the relative + size of the circles she drew. This and the fact that the map was + alleged to be 3-D did not come out in Interrupted Journey, so Atterberg + would not have known that.) + + Sheaffer notes that seven of Atterberg's pattern stars appear on + Dole's list as stars that could have habitable planets. These stars are + Groombridge 1618 (Gliese 380, BD + 50 1725), Groombridge 34 (Gliese + 15,BD +43 44), 61 Cygni, Sigma Draconis, Tau Ceti, Epsilon Eridani and + Epsilon Indi. Of these seven, only Epsilon Eridani, Tau Ceti and Sigma + Draconis are above Doles' absolute magnitude minimum. The others are + listed in a table in his book Habitable Planets for Man, but with the + designation: "Probability of habitable planet very small; less than + 0.001." Epsilon Eridani was discussed earlier. Sigma Draconis appears + good but is listed as a probable variable in Dorrit Hoffleit's + Catalogue of Bright Stars. Variability great enough to be noticed from + Earth at Sigma Draconis' distance would cause problems for life on its + planets. This leaves Tau Ceti which is one of my pattern stars also. + + Another point Sheaffer made was that orientation of my map was + arbitrary compared to Atterberg's map's orientation with Gould's belt. + One of my first questions to Betty Hill was, "Did any bright band or + concentration of stars show?" This would establish the galactic plane + and the map's orientation, as well as indicate it was not just a local + map. But there was none indicating that if the map was valid it was + probably just a local one. + + The plane of the face of my model map is not random, as Sheaffer + indicated. It has intrinsic value for the viewer since many of the + pattern stars form a plane at this viewing angle. The value to the + viewer is that these stars have their widest viewing separation at that + angle, and their relative distances are much more easily comprehended. + + My final interpretation of the map was the only one I could find + where all the restrictions outlined above were met. The fact that only + stars most suitable for Earthlike planets remained and filled the + pattern seems significant. + + Marjorie Fish is a research assistant at Oak Ridge National Laboratory + in Tennessee. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + ZETA RETICULI -- A RARE SYSTEM + + By Jeffrey L. Kretsch + + Zeta Reticuli is a unique system in the solar neighborhood -- a wide + physically associated pair of stars almost exactly like the sun. After + searching through a list of stars selected from the Gliese catalog on + the basis of life criteria, only one other pair within a separation of + even 0.3 light-years could be found. (This pair -- Gliese 201 and + Gliese 202, a K5e and F8Ve pair separated by 0.15 light-years -- is + currently being investigated.) Zeta Reticuli is indeed a rare case. + + Based on the Fish interpretation of the Hill map, the Zeta Reticuli + pair forms the base of the pattern. If the other stars in the patter + fit, it is a remarkable association with a rare star system. + + In order to deal with this problem, I decided to computer the three- + dimensional positions of the stars and construct a three-dimensional + model showing these stars positions. + + Speaking quantitatively, I discovered the two patterns are certainly + not an exact match. However, if one considers the question of match + from the standpoint of how the Hill pattern was made as opposed to the + derived pattern's means of reproduction, the quantitative data may not + be a complete means of determining whether the two patterns "match" or + not. For example, the Hill pattern was drawn freehand -- so one would + have to determine how much allowance one must give for differences in + quantitative data. In such areas, I am not qualified to give an + opinion. However, because the map was drawn freehand from memory, the + fact that the resemblance between the Fish map and the Hill map is a + striking one should be considered. + + In my work I was able to verify the findings of Marjorie Fish in + terms of the astronomy used. + + + Jeffrey L. Kretsch is an astronomy student at Northwestern + University. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2795.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2795.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ba956c30 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2795.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +SUBJECT: SPACE ALIENS SEND EARTH WONDER CURES FILE: UFO2795 + + +Astonishing claim by top scientist. + + +Amazing cures for all human ailments - including old age - are being sent to +Earth by alien doctors but greedy medical authorities here want them kept +secret. + +The cures are so simple that there would be no need for doctors or medicines, +according to three insiders who have seen the incredible transmissions from +space and tested them. + +"The money machine for doctors and huge pharmaceutical companies would be shut +down overnight if the information was ever released," says Dr. William +Kellogg, who used to work for NASA. + +Secret base + +Kellogg claims NASA has been receiving alien medical information for the past +25 years at a secret base known only to a handful of top government and +business leaders. + +"When the signals first came in, we thought someone was putting us on," says +Dr. James Rushing, a medical consultant with the space agency during the late +1960s and early 1970s. + +"Their approach was so weird. Then, a few of us tried some and they worked." + +Kelloggg claims he cured himself of liver disease, while another scientist +repaired his own damaged kidney. + +Rushing says he grew a full head of hair after being bald for 20 years. After +more testing, Dr. Kellogg, Dr. Rushing and other medical experts were +convinced the claims were legitimate. + +"Their approach is totally different from ours," says Rushing. + +"It's difficult to explain because some of us were not allowed to see +everything after the top brass found out we were against suppressing the +information. + +Stop aging + +"But basically, the aliens claim the mind can be easily trained to beat +diseases from the common cold and acne to cancer and AIDS. The mind can even +stop the aging process. + +"In fact, the mind can be trained to protect the body from ever getting sick +in the first place. We can will ourselves to live and to die. It's all in the +mind." + +Several Russian scientists and medical experts reported their space experts +were picking up the same medical advice as the Americans, but they too had +been silenced by the former Soviet bureaucracy. + +"The Soviet big shots said it was all a lot of religious nonsense," recalls +Peter Oganavich, a top level Soviet medical expert for 30 years. + +"They didn't like the idea that the mind might have control over the rest of +the body." + +Mind control + +Like Kellogg and Rushing, Oganavich and a select group of Russian medical +specialists learned the alien technique of mind control and found it worked. + +"I lost a foot in an accident when I was a child," says Oganavich. "I grew one +back in three hours." + +Another Russian, cured himself of terminal lung cancer in less than a week. + +"None of us has been sick in 10 years," Oganavich says. "We haven't aged +either." + +The Russians have ended their link with the aliens, but the Americans still +communicate with them, according to Kellogg and Rushing. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2796.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2796.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5a6c82f5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2796.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +SUBJECT: CITIES FOUND ON VENUS FILE: UFO2796 + + +BY MIKE JONES for SUN + + +Futuristic Cities have been photographed on Venus by the spacecraft Magellan, +but astonished NASA scientists are trying to keep the incredible discovery +under wraps. + +The photos were taken in October as Magellan descended into the dense Venusian +atmosphere and reached a point approximately 10 miles from the planet's +mountainous surface. + +Maps + +"We didn't expect this at all," says NASA project engineer who has asked that +his name not be used for security reasons. + +"There was no hint that anything lived or had lived on the planet while +Magellan orbited it the last four years." + +During its four years circling Venus, it relayed a massive amount of +information about the second planet from the sun. + +This included the make-up of the planet's atmosphere and amazingly detailed +maps of the surface, including towering mountain ranges and volcanoes and a +rocky surface littered with craters. + +The mission was declared a success this summer and, having no way to bring +Magellan back to Earth. NASA decided to gradually lower the spacecraft to the +surface of Venus. + +The spacecraft was expected to either break up or burn up when it got to +within 90 miles of the surface but did not. + +Not only was it not destroyed, it continued to send data back to the Jet +Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena. + +No life + +At least six sprawling cities were photographed, appearing like fairly towers +silhouetted on the horizon against an immense sun. + +However, there were no signs of life. + +Venus' dense atmosphere, consisting mostly of carbon dioxide and sulfuric +acid, sis poisonous to human and animal life. Surface temperatures have been +recorded as high as 900 degrees. + +If life as we know it ever existed on Venus, it has long since died out, +scientists believe. + +"But that doesn't mean that some other sort of life might not exist," says Dr. +Nelson Burton, a California physicist who has followed the progress of the +space probe. + +"It would have to be capable of functioning in a poisonous atmosphere almost +as dense as water, with high enough temperatures to cause paper to burst into +flames on contact." There are certain insects and bacteria on Earth capable of +enduring such conditions, Burton adds. + +NASA big shots apparently want to withhold details about the discovery of +Venusian cities until they have studied the photographs closely. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2797.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2797.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c5dfa7ba --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2797.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +SUBJECT: TOP POLITICIAN SAW UFO ABDUCT WOMAN FILE: UFO2797 + + + +Did a high-ranking political figure witness an alien abduction in 1989? + +According to UFO researcher Budd Hopkins, the answer is yes - and the unnamed +politician has not denied the incident. + +Hopkins discussed the abduction - known in research circles as the Linda +Napolitano case - during a recent Independent UFO Network conference in +Sheffield, England. + +The politician, accompanied by two government security guards, watched through +binoculars as Napolitano, a 45-year-old mother of two, floated out of the +closed window of her 12th-story Manhattan apartment and into a UFO. + +Napolitano was asleep during the bizarre 3:15 a.m. incident, as was her +husband, who remembers nothing. + +The lights on the limousine, other area vehicles and the nearby Brooklyn +Bridge all went out while the UFO was in the area - apparently to ensure that +the politican saw what was happening. + +The whole thing was probably a demonstration, Hopkins says, to warn of what +the invaders are capable of. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2798.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2798.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6ed48e80 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2798.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +SUBJECT: I LOVED A SPACE ALIEN ! FILE: UFO2798 + + +BY KEN O'HARA for SUN + + +I had his baby on his planet, woman claims. + +A woman's incredible claim that she had a love affair with a space alien - and +bore his child - is being investigated by top scientists. + +Elezabeth Klarer died in February 1994 at the age of 83, still sticking to +her story on her death bed. + +Her claims are taken very seriously by ufologists and other researchers +because she wasn't a kook at all, but a brilliant graduate of Cambridge, the +top university in England. + +Space ship + +Elizabeth stuck to her story until the day she died, feeding information to +scientists, who are convinced that it could not have been a hoax. + +Elizabeth had psychic experiences from early childhood, but it was at the age +of 47 that she says she met a space alien named Akon near her home in South +Africa. + +She was at home when she suddenly got an unexplainable urge to climb a nearby +mountain. + +There she saw a spaceship descend from the clouds. Through a porthole she saw +"the outline of a human figure" - her first sighting of the alien named Akon. + +"He stood there with his arms folded across his chest, regarding me with a +compelling and hypnotic attraction about his eyes, which, even at that +distance, seemed to influence and control me," said Elizabeth. + +Naturl + +"At that moment time seemed to stand still. There was no fear, only a deep and +exciting happiness." + +Then the spaceship flew away. But Elizabeth knew that the UFO alien would come +back for her. + +One day she woke up, and instinctively knew that Akon had returned. She ran +back to the mountain and there he was, waiting for her. + +"I never hesitated, but ran down the slope," she said. + +"Laughing gaily he caught me around the waist and swung me up onto the hull of +his ship as though it was the most natural thing in the world." + +Akon spoke perfect English, said Elizabeth - and making love with him was +simply out of this world! + +She became pregnant - and nine months later was whisked to the planet Meton to +give birth to their son, Ayling. + +Scientist + +Elizabeth says she remained on the planet Meton for four months, and was then +returned to Earth in a spacecraft that controlled gravity and time waves. + +Her son, Ayling , was raised by his father. + +He even went into the same profession, becoming an interstellar research +scientist. + +Meanwhile, Elizabeth resumed her earthly lifestyle - raising two children and +marrying three times. + +Other worlds + +But she never forgot her space alien baby - and never took the ring off her +finger that was given to her by Akon. + +Elizabeth wrote about her amazing life in her autobiography Beyond the Light +Barrier. + +She had no pictures of her space alien lover Akon or their UFO baby because +photos were forbidden by the aliens for security reasons. + +But she did have photos of Akon's spacecraft, and painted several portraits of +him - one of which hung in the bedroom of her home in Johannesburg. + +When Elizabeth was diagnosed with cancer, she had no fear of dying because she +had already seen beautiful other worlds. + +In fact, she was becoming more and more impatient to leave planet Earth for +good. + +"I'd much rather not be her," she said shortly before her death. + +"Earth people are a primitive, stupid race and I'd prefer not to carry on +living with barbarians." + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2799.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2799.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e5c341b9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2799.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +SUBJECT: SPACE ALIENS GAVE ME A GIFT FILE: UFO2799 + + +BY DEREK BARNES for SUN + + +Abducted girl says UFO crew left her with mystery box. + + +A California girl has stunned experts with her graphic description of an +abduction by the crew of an alien spacecraft. + +The story she told had one incredibly important difference from similar +stories. She returned, she says with a mystery object. + +The strange, yellow rectangular box - made of some kind of plastic - is being +studied by experts at a secret Pentagon laboratory. + +So far, according to a SUN source, the scientists have not been able to +establish what the article is or whether it is possible to open it. Attempts +to X-ray its interior have been unsuccessful. + +The story began when 17-year-old Katherine Podzus was visiting the Grand +Canyon with her parents last August. + +Humming + +She said that while her parents were asleep in their camper she went outside +at midnight for a short walk. + +She says: "Suddenly the sky filled with a blue light, and I heard high-pitched +hum, which I found very painful. It made my head feel like it was going to +bust. After that, I remembered nothing until I found myself laying on a silver +bench in a large room, with that same odd blue light everywhere. + +My clothes had gone but I was covered with some type of black wrap. + +"I felt very calm, not at all frightened. It seemed quite normal that I should +be there, but now I tremble when I think about it. + +"I was approached by a group of people, not at all like the popular idea of +space aliens. They looked quite human, but their faces had Asiatic features. + +"it was impossible to see whether they were male of female because they all +wore the same things, sort of red, loosely fitting robes and golden, tight +fitting hats. But I don't even know if they head hair. + +Understood + +"I didn't hear them talk, but words came into my brain. I understood them to +be saying that I was not to worry and they had only needed me for a short +while to help them. + +"Then, one of them pressed this yellow object into my hand. It felt very warm +and the voice in my brain said, "Take this. One day you will need it and +understand.' + +"Then I found myself standing in exactly the same place about half a mile from +our camper. The only difference was that it was 9 a.m. I had been missing nine +hours. My parents were frantic with worry and had called the cops thinking +something terrible had happened to me. + +"The next day after they had talked to me for hours, my parents took a picture +of me with the object> At that stage I think they were just humoring me. + +"Eventually, after I had made a statement to the police, men came and took the +yellow thing away. They said they wanted to test it. + +"But no one has returned it and whenever I ask about it I hit a brick wall." + +Katherine's mother, 43-year-old Christian, said" "Our daughter is a good, +honest girl, and if she says something happened out there that night we +believe her. + +"She has had a few bad dreams about the incident since but, considering what +sort of ordeal she must have been through she has been remarkably sensible and +calm. + +Incredible story + +"I was never a believer in UFOs, but now I am not so sure. Our daughter is a +happy girl and there's no reason for her to go missing and come back with such +an incredible story." + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2800.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2800.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a79a8a34 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2800.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@ +SUBJECT: FIRE IN THE SKY FILE: UFO2800 + + + +BY DEAN JAMES for SUN + + +A woman in northern Florida went outside her home to photograph her +grandchildren - and instead captured a UFO on film! + +These amazing pictures show a UFO in flight as it streaks across the night +sky. Florence Dillard, 60, was using an automatic winder and snapped several +pictures in sequence. + +"I couldn't believe my eyes," she says. "I'm snapping shots of the little ones +at play and the next moment I'm shooting a flying saucer." + +She watched the object dart back and forth at an astonishing speed while +multi-colored lights pulsated, matching its movements through the sky. + +"I didn't even realize what I was doing at first. I guess instinct took over +when I spotted the streaking lights out of the corner of my eye." Florence had +been a photo-journalist for an aviation magazine and was practiced at +photographing swiftly moving objects. + +Extraterrestrial + +"I had to photograph new jets as they went over my head as quick as can be," +says Florence. + +"I only had a second to get it on film and I did. My reflexes are still quick +after all these years. + +"The objects shot above me like a streak of fire in the sky. After a few +seconds it dived at high speed and what looked like an electrical charge surge +round it. Then it flew away and vanished." + +After developing the film in her darkroom, Florence handed copies over to her +son-in-law, Roger Wilson, an astronomer and professor of astrophysics at a +local college. + +Roger studied the photographs closely and believes that the object in the +series is extraterrestrial. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2801.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2801.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..30ce2f57 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2801.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +SUBJECT: RIDDLE OF THE MAN WITHOUT A HEART FILE: UFO2801 + + + +BY MINDI LUCE for SUN + + +Amazed Paramedics couldn't find a heartbeat at first - and then they couldn't +even find a heart in an accident victim! + +They were even more spooked when the FBI poped in and imposed a curtain of +silence over the peculiar discovery. + +Now, an ambulance driver who asks to be known as "Mike" has lifted the lid on +the bewildering events which followed a horrendous head-on crash on a southern +California freeway. + +Mutilated + +"I think we were dealing with a creature from another world," says Mike, whose +first impression when he got to the scene was that everyone in the twisted +wreckage was dead - or should have been. + +One man was still moving, but the paramedics couldn't find a pulse. They +rushed him back to the hospital, where the mutilated victim was x-rayed. The +two men in the other car were declared dead and taken to the morgue. + +"The emergency room nurse said there was no heart," recalls Mike. + +"We were thinking the machine had malfunctioned because the plates showed what +looked like a plate of spaghetti with meatballs. + +"Then suddenly there were these guys in suits standing in the doorways and we +were told to get back to our stations." + +Since then, Mike has gone back over every detail and compared notes with his +tow partners that night. + +"There was this black stuff all around," he recalls. + +"I was thinking it was crankcase oil from the wrecked vehicles, but now I +realize there was no blood. That stuff was his bodily fluids." + +The paramedics also now know the "suits" who took control were FBI agents. + +"They were so matter-of-fact," he says. + +"It was like business as usual. I think they knew who he was, that maybe he +was even co-operating with them on something." + +A reporter discovered that all records of the accident were expunged. + +The strange thing that has been giving Mike many sleepless night, however, is +one glimpse of something he has trouble understanding. "The dying man was +slipping away when I saw to my horror...he had no face, nothing," he recalls. + +"There was just a vague emptiness. Then just as quickly the man's face was +back, kind of grinning. + +"It was as though he was enjoying the confusion he was creating among us +earthlings. He could make us see what he wanted us to see. + +"But the x-ray machine was a different story. That showed he was a man with no +heart - at least not one that we could relate to." + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2802.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2802.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4a2f6501 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2802.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +SUBJECT: SPACE ALIENS ARE ABDUCTING HOUSEWIVES FOR SEX FILE: UFO2802 + + + +BY R. NEALE LIND for WWN + + + +A startling new book presents overwhelming evidence that space aliens are +having hot seamy sex with Earth women - and the women are loving it! + +Without Consent by Carl Nagaitis and Philip Mantle features interviews with +intelligent, perfectly sane women who give detailed reports of sex with +extraterrestrials. They have nothing to gain by reporting their experiences and +everything to lose - reputation, jobs and friendships. + +Yet these women, many of whom are happily married, do admit to passionate +encounters with humanoid creatures from another world. + +Housewife Jane Murphy relates the chilling account of h how aliens appeared at +her bedside and injected her with something that caused her to black out. When +she regained consciousness she was on a table inside a UFO. A strange humanoid +creature was standing beside her. + +"I looked into his big black eyes and knew what was going to happen," said +Mrs. Murphy. "It was like a dream. As he drew near to me I noticed his smell. +It wasn't a human smell at all. + +"It was the best sex I ever had." + +When she was returned to her home, her mind rebelled at the experience and she +tried to convince herself it was just a dream. But she saw the strange +puncture mark made by the injection. + +A picture published in the book clearly shows the odd scar on her neck left by +the needle. + +Mrs. Gabriella Versacci was abducted while giving her teenage daughter's +friend a ride home. Her car broke down mysteriously and when she got out to +fix it, "a robot-like creature" suddenly appeared. She was carried to a UFO +where she was given an examination. She then had sex with the being. +Researchers say Mrs. Versacci is a respected member of her community with no +reason to make the story up. + +Lynda Jones of Manchester, England, was out in a field with her two children +gathering wildflowers when her daughter said, Mommy, the moon is coming toward +us." + +Mrs. Jones looked up and discovered "the moon" was actually a bright shining +spacecraft. It landed near them. + +At that point, Mrs. Jones lost her memory. + +Weeks later, as often happens with women who are abducted and have sex with +aliens, she experienced some abnormalities in her menstrual cycle. + +Later her doctors found some scarring that could only have been caused by an +ectopic pregnancy - a pregnancy in which the egg is fertilized in the +Fallopian tube. + +"But I had never had an ectopic pregnancy," said Mrs. Jones. "And I would have +known if I had because they can be fatal." + +Scientists believe the aliens may have impregnated her and then aborted the +pregnancy. + +Author Philip Mantle is the director of the noted British UFO Research +Association. + +He and Nagaitis were moved to write the book because they were deeply +impressed, not only with medical evidence and the number of women claiming to +be abducted, but also with the credibility of the women. If the women had been +attention-hungry, mentally unbalanced people, its authors might have dismissed +the stories. But the stories in Without Consent, come from respected, +upstanding women whose only interest in coming forward is to bring the truth +to light. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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"An Indian lodge is either there or it's +not. This thing came and went, which is entirely consistent with a spacecraft +that pays occasional visits." + +Burde believes there is crucial evidence yet so surface, and he is scrambling +to find the missing parts of the war diary. The pages were captured by the +British and languished for years in an Edinburgh archive. + +The diary's importance was missed by historians when it did surface because +it's not in Washington's handwriting. + +Burde's explanation for that is simple. + +"Washington often dictated," he claims. " He had a military secretary, a Lt. +Johnson, at the time and these pages are definitely in his hand." + +UNAWARE + +Burde also believes Washington had no idea he was dealing with creatures from +another planet. "He probably thought he was talking with an extremely +talented Indian war chief, or a medicine man with powers bordering on the +magical," he says. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2804.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2804.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d8800d17 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2804.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +SUBJECT: THE SEARCH FOR EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCE FILE: UFO2804 + + + +BY DAVID L. BURKHEAD + + + +Are we alone? The question is often asked by those involved in the search for +extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI). It has tugged at the mind of humankind +since early history, probably since the first time a human looked up at the +sky and realized that some of those lights up there were other worlds. + +The ancient Greeks told stories in which they populated the Moon with people, +people who were planning a war with people on the Sun. In the Middle Ages, the +Orlando Furioso had Duke Adolpho, one of Charlemagne's paladins, travel to the +Moon on the back of a hippogrif to meet some of the folk who resided there. + +Such ideas seem quaint today, but the idea of life on other worlds is anything +but quaint. While none of the other planets in the Solar System are likely +homes for intelligent, tool-using life, our galaxy alone contains more than a +hundred billion stars, many like our Sun. Current theories postulate that +stars like the Sun are also likely to have planets, and if conditions are +right on those planets, then life should evolve. + +The next question is how it might be possible to detect, perhaps even +communicate with, such life. For most of history, no means of observing even +the worlds around another star existed. However, in 1932 radio experimenter +Hiram Percy Maxim suggested that contact with another star might one day be +possible by radio. + +The year before, unknown to Maxim, Karl Jansky of Bell Laboratories, +investigating sources of static in radio communications, traced one of these +sources to the heavens, specifically to the Milky Way, and thus created the +science of radio astronomy. Others expanded on Jansky's work, developing new +receivers and large antennas that could examine the sky for radio sources. + +None of these radio telescopes sought signs of life elsewhere in the universe, +but they did develop powerful new tools for the detection and analysis of +faint signals coming from deep space. It was these tools that Frank Drake +applied to his Project Ozma, the first serious attempt to look for other life +in the universe. In 1961 at the radio observatory in Green Bank, West +Virginia, Drake observed two nearby sun-like stars considered by many likely +to have planets - Tau Ceti and Epsilon Eridani. + +While Project Ozma did not find any extraterrestrial signals, it did lead to a +conference of leading SETI researchers at Grand Bank in 1981. This meeting was +organized by the U.S. National Academy of Science and demonstrated that SETI +could now be taken seriously in science, even at the highest levels. + +One result of the conference was the socalled Drake Equation. This equation +purports to estimate the number of intelligent, communicating civilizations in +the galaxy. Taking such factors as the number of stars in the galaxy, +probability of a given star having planets, probability of a given planet +developing life, etc., the equation then calculates the number of +civilizations expected in the galaxy. Unfortunately, many of the factors are +unknown and estimates are little more than wild guesses. Yet estimates are +made, and the most common result is about a million communicating +civilizations. If scattered evenly about the galaxy, this would put the +nearest such civilizations about 700 light years away. + +This then, is one of the major problems with SETI projects. According to +Geoffrey Landis of NASA Lewis Research Center, given our current technology, +it would be impossible to detect the Earth from much smaller distances than +700 light years. The only signals that would be detectable even from the +nearest stars would be the Ballistic Missile Early Warning System (BMEWS). +Yet, because of Earth's rotation, any signal a hypothetical extraterrestrial +detected would only appear in short spurts, like many natural sources, unless +the exterrestrial's planet were situated along the line of Earth's axis. +Since there are no nearby stars along the line of the Earth's axis, the +hypothetical alien world could not detect the Earth and realize that they had +found signs of intelligence elsewhere. Likewise, it is extremely unlikely that +we would detect accidental emissions from other planets. + +However, there is still the possibility of intentional transmissions. Frank +Drake and Carl sagan directed the transmission of the first (and to date only) +deliberate message sent into space. Transmitting from the Arecibo Observatory +in Puerto Rico, they sent a message consisting of 1,679 pulses that decode +into a crude image containing information about our planet, our place in the +solar system, and ourselves. This message was aimed at the Great Cluster in +the constellation of Hercules. The message will take 24,000 years to reach the +distant cluster, so no reply can be expected anytime soon. + +If we can deliberately send a message into space, perhaps others have done so +as well. If any such messages have been sent in our direction, whether or not +Earth or the Sun is the intended target, we may be able to detect them. Such +messages are what various SETI projects have attempted to detect. + +The problems faced by SETI researchers are enormous. First is finding the +signal. The signal can come from anywhere in the entire sky, and at any +frequency. Two approaches are generally used to search for signals. In one, +thousands or millions of frequencies are studied in a survey of the entire sky +in the hope of finding the needle in the cosmic haystack. In the other +approach, and attempt is made to determine what frequencies are likely to be +used by extraterrestrials wishing to broadcast to other beings and what stars +are likely to have such extraterrestrials, and then to concentrate the search +there. This is what Drake did for Project Ozma. + +The next problem is that even if the signal can be found, it may not be +recognized. Nature has a way of conspiring to deceive astronomers about eh +nature of signals. In 1967, a source of extremely regular, steady pulses was +detected in deep space. Excitement rose, for no known natural source could +explain such regular pulses. The idea that they were from a beacon established +by extraterrestrials was put forward, but SETI advocates were doomed to +disappointment. The pulsating radio sources, known as pulsars, proved to be +rapidly spinning neutron stars. While they were exciting discoveries in their +own right, they had nothing to do with extraterrestrial intelligence. + +SETI has largely remained a small sidelight of radio astronomy. Occasionally, +projects were funded, but they had to compete with other, more pressing and +popular projects. However, that seemed likely to change in 1992 when Congress +approved a new, extensive 10-year Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence to +be conducted by NASA. The project would combine both an all-sky survey and a +concentrated examination of nearby stars. + +Ten years proved optimistic. In October of 1993, merely one year after the +initiation of the project, Congress cancelled it. That brought direct +government involvement in SETI to an end. The SETI Institute of California, a +private group, took over the project and renamed it Project Phoenix. So far +the group has raised $4.4 million, more than half the $7.4 million required to +keep the project functioning. + +The search for extraterrestrial intelligence is a long, difficult one that +will probably not reach its goal for decades, if ever. Yet, many consider the +search important. We may be alone in the universe or we may share the universe +with possibly hundreds, thousand, or millions of civilizations. Either way, +the thought is staggering. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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We had not had much contact while growing up. He felt so +grateful that I had come all that way that he gave me a old CB radio. A +citizen band rig some guy had given him. Now I could cuss out smokey bear and +say buzz words like ten four good buddy on my way back. + + A boisterous signal came over the air "Get yourself a side band rig with +all the extra channels in it and talk to those women down under in +Australia." I could hardy believe this. So I traded in the old CB for a side +band rig with all the off limit military channels in it. While struggling to +get my antenna higher, watching it careful, keeping it from falling, I saw +five flying discs going to some kind of intelligent formation in an orderly +south-westerly way. One would peel off and come down a little lower, hover for +a few seconds and then zoom back up to join the others. Then another took its +place and did the same thing. It was a clear day approximately 1:00 p.m. They +were approximately 30,000 to 40,000 feet high. I am not a fruit cake. This +happened to me. So who is going to believe it? So I kept quite until now. The +question is how are we going to make contact? As slow as things are going, +when it does happen I will be gone to meet my maker. Or maybe the real contact +will be made after death. It has been said by reliable sources that they are +non-human intelligence waiting for the right time. + + We all have to answer to a higher power. Maybe them or that. One thing +for sure, there is truth in some of these sightings. Lets keep our minds and +eyes open. Lets all watch and wait . One PhD of math and inventions said "I'll +believe it when they come and give me a ride in it." If there was contact +would there be panic, pain, peace, war or what? We do know that they have +secrets that we would like to have. Wouldn't it be great if I I Me! is the one +that they would like to talk to and show proof. Hey! this book would sell like +crazy! + + Old Jack in Gilroy said over the air (Ham Radio) "They are us. They have +been in control since the beginning of time. We don't know it yet. The time +isn't right. When that time comes we will all know about it. But you and I who +are in our 70s will be in a different dimension." My brother Lee said "there +were dairy cows killed near Bellingham by Big Foot. He cut away some body +parts and left some to rot away in the pasture. The police and the firemen +were looking for plastic bags and boxes to put the remains in. Right out here +close by, but no one has seen Big Foot yet. But he is around here in the +woods." Come on Lee, how do we know it wasn't UFO people or things? There is +no proof yet but there will be." + + Some informed persons speculate that UFOs have been visiting here on earth +for years, taking humans and body parts back to their home planet. The +Russians and the Americans said "Okay! We won't do anything just give us the +formula for the speed of light." I don't know? Do you know? Let's share. There +is some indication that celestial life forms help build the pyramids. Strange +things in the Yucatan and the lost city of Atlantis have been reported. + + In my laymans point of view, which is probable as good as the expert and as +much as there is tons of information dumped on us daily by world wide computer +inter nets 40 thousand nets all linked, we are still in there guessing. No +politicians want to risk being called a fruit cake, so they throw money at +experiments, like radio astronomy. They monitor the whole spectrum with many +parabolic dishes located around the world. It is possible U.F.O. +communications are outside of man's ability to detect. In other words, a +different dimension. Animals, birds, and insects communicate and we have not +be able to break their codes. The only thing we have going for us is signals +going at the speed of light 186,000 miles a second. You can't see or feel +them, but they are there. We can not see 90% of the universal mass , no light +is reflected from it. We are stumped and amazed at what we don't know. We have +a long way to go, on the other hand it could be a big cover-up. + + Sgt. Boby Lee Chippen, a combat Vietnam Veteran and squad leader during +the heat of combat had a sighting. His squad of Nationals were resting in the +shad after a long hot patrol. Low and behold! right in front of them at tree +top level appeared a large grey disc. Hovering, seemingly looking at them. One +national cocked his machine gun ready to shoot. "No No" Chippen hallard, +"American American". It quickly shot side ways, zoomed over to the other side +of the valley, hovered for a few more second's, then zoomed out of sight over +the hills. "What the hell is that? They were aghast. Who the hell is going to +believe that, they said, so they did not report anything. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2807.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2807.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..96d4c9d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2807.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,376 @@ +SUBJECT: X-FILES FILE: UFO2807 + + +BY DAVID BISCHOFF for OMNI + + +At the UFO conference, the alien presence lurks . . . At the Hyatt regency +Airport Hotel, it walks among people with almond-eyed extraterrestrials +emblazoned on their TV shirts . . . Among UFO sculptures, passing a painting +of a UFO hovering by a Brontosaurus . . . Among L.A. casual Newagers wearing +exotic jewelry and hard-nosed investigators scribbling in steno books . . . + +As it hears Budd Hopkins speak of abduction trauma, it absorbs. As it observes +a panel on covert U.S. government activities, it takes notes. As it listens to +Richard Hoagland talk of alien structures on Mars, it calculates. As it passes +the display table for UFO magazine, it decides to decline a subscription and +continue picking up the occasional issue from the newsstand. + +Los Angeles. Early June. UFO Expo West. No sightings. No contact. + +Anecdotal evidence. + +"Yeah. I was there," confesses Chris Carter, crator and executive producer of +Fox's X-Files. His voice is relaxed and friendly on the phone. Carter is 37 +years old and success has apparently not spoiled or hardened him. I've seen +his picture in TV Guide. Blond. Slender. Handsome."I attended incognito. I had +a great time. I spent a whole day there in the gallery area." + +He was? I didn't know that!" says UFO magazine's editor and publisher, Vicki +Cooper, her no-nonsense reporter's voice softening. "I would have loved to +have met him." + +I'm calling around, trying to get a fix on this aerial phenomenon called X- +Files, and its paranormal show satelites. One of its two featured characters, +FBI Agent Fox Mulder, claims to write articles for Omni under pen names Omni +wants to know about him, and his show. + +Vicki Cooper is only too happy to give her opinion. + +"The X-Files is very entertaining. The concept that Chris Carter came up with +is intriguing not just to people who have greater info on and involvement in +the UFO field, but also to audiences in general. Most episodes are good +mysteries, and the mysteries are paranormal. I think there's a greater +interest in that sort of thing these days." + +The Fox network seems to think so. It has renewed X-Files for another full +season of 24 episodes. Its other shows, Sightings and Encounters, put a +documentary spin on the subject matter of the outre, from flying saucers to +crop circles to ghosts. UFO books from the serious (Dr. John Mack's +Abductions) through the ethereal (Embraced by the Light) to the ridiculous +(The Celestine Prophecy) are levitating of bookstore shelves. + +Not since the advent of spiritualism and H.P. Balatsky in the nineteenth +century have so many Americans been so interested in the possibility that the +bizarre is real. + +These vibrations seem to emanate mostly from Friday nights at 9:00, as +synthesizer music sharmbles from TVs and the bastard child of the Twilight +Zone and the F.B.I. grabs millions of viewers by their lapels and gives them a +good, creepy shake. + +The X-Files, for the uninitiated and the frightened, deals with a brilliant +psychologist named Fox Mulder (David Duchovny) whose excellent criminal work +with the FBI has given him license to take on the unusual cases the agency +receives. Mulder is a driven man. His sister disappeared when they wre both +children. Regressive hypnotherapy makes him believe she was abducted by +aliens, and event he watched helplessly while she called for help. + +The button-down Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.-types are getting irked by "spooky" +Mulder's activities. They assign Dana Scully (Gillian Anderson), a medical +doctor with a specialy in forensics and at stron faith in the rational, to tag +along, help, and report back. However, Mulder is a loose cannon. The Truth is +out there, and Mulder means to get it, by hook or by crook. + +The duo butt heads, bicker, wisecrack, argue, and debate. Mulder has seen +Scully in her underwear, but there's never been more than a whisper of sexual +interest or romance. Ultimately, after a season of firestarters, alien threats +to mankind, UFOs, genetically warped serial killers who eat human livers, evil +clone children, and of course--alien abduction galore, they trust only each +other. + +Each episode is dead serious, often ending in ambiguity. + +In "Ice," an excellent variation on John W. Campbell's "Who Goes There" +(filmed twice as The Thing), they thwart an alien menace in the Arctic Circle. +In "Ghost in the Machine," they must deal with an evil Al computer. In "Deep +Throat," they discover an Air Force base where the government is secretly +testing captured alien technology. + +The direction is atmospheric, the scripts are tight, the dialogue is crisp, +the tone uneasy and grim. + +How can anyone not love this show? Chris Carter used to be a journalist. He +wrote pieces on sports, mostly surfing. In 1985, one of his screenplays caught +the notice of Jeffrey Katzenburg, boy genius of Disney's film divison. Carter +found himself developing for Disney. A detour into sitcoms led to a +relationship with Twentieth Television, brainstorming TV projects. + +Or so the Carter and the Fox press releases claim. Difficult to believe that +something so dark and moddy as the X-Files bubbled out of such a whitebread +background. + +Perhaps Carter stumbled across that cryogenically frozen body of Walt beside +chained skeletons of animators in the Mouseswitz dungeons. Or he heard +whispers of ancient voodoo cabals in the halls of the Writer's Guild? Or one +night, surfing, he was picked up by a UFO! + +Alas, all lof the above are emphatically false. + +"I've never had a personal experience with the paranormal," Carter aserts. +"I've never seen a UFO. I've never been contacted by anything or anyone. My +personal opinion? Well, I should preface this by saying that I'm a natural +skeptic. My tendency is to discount most of th stuff because my personal +experience doesn't include it." + +So just where did Scully ;and Mulder come from? + +"Right out of my head. A dichotomy. They are the equal parts of my desire to +believe in something and my inability to believe in something. My skepticism +and my faith. And the writing of the characters and the voices came very +easily to me. I want, like a lot of people do, to have the experience of +witnessing a paranormal phenomenon. At the same time I want not to accept it, +but to quesiton, it. I think those characters and those voices came out of +that duality." + +Are the names significantly metaphorical? + +"No, not at all. Just co-incidence. I liked the sounds. They trip off the +tongue. And I grew up in L.A. where Vince Scully was the voice of God." + +Do the stories have any roots in science fiction? + +"I was never an SF fan, oddly enough. I resisted the SF label for the show +because of that, but I found that by having it called SF, it brought people to +the show that might not have bothered. Now I think it's not a bd label." + +Still, wild as it may get, it's a here-and-now show--so much so that a recent +tour of the FBI offices by actors and staff brought lectures by FBI agents on +errors in weaponry and procedures. + +Eerie things happen as well. + +"Just last weekend I had aperson whom I've seen on a social basis come up to +me and say, 'You don't know how right you've got it.' And then he continued to +tell me for the next two hours about his experiences as well as his reaction +to them. A very strong personal reaction. Seeing those kinds of reactions +makes one believe that there are things that are affecting people out there, +whether they are real or imagined. There's too much evidence to dismiss it out +of hand." + +Evidence is what the UFO field seeks. It has quite a bit on its subject. + +Vicki Cooper is a journalist who's also been observing the media lately. + +"TV programming--movies and documentaries like Sightings, for instance, with +ghosts alongside UFOs --dilutes the information base just a tad. There is a +database that can be based strictly on observed phenomena--stories that talk +about craft, stories and reports that are based on landing traces and physical +scarring and people who've had encounters with alleged UFO occupants. There is +additional reported information that does have a distinct paranormal aspect, +but most UFOlogists resiste this." + +How is X-Files viewed among the UFO experts? + +"Although the material is greatly fictionalized, the basic premises of many +episodes seem to be based on stories that have gotten a lot of attention in +the UFO field. Mulder's government source--Deep Throat. Some of what he says +mirrors the suspicions UFO researchers have had for years. But because this +has been cloaked in secrecy, there's no real way of telling what is real and +what isn't. There is seemingly a cover-up. What is being covered up and for +what reason hasn't been defined to everyone's satisfaction. + +"I've been greatly amused and gratified to see how Chris Carter apparently has +really studied the UFO database. The show makes passing references to cases +that everyone in the UFO field recognizes, such as the Gulf Breeze case and +Area 51. He and other writers obviously very cleverly filtered into the +scripts real UFO info that we look at here in the UFO research field." + +"We generally don't use consultants," says Carter. "There is no real Deep +Throat. Now that the character is dead, he has no counterpart working on our +stall. All of our research is done from diverse materials, wherever we can +find it. But I have to say that we take the information, but don't use it in +any kind of literal or verbatim way. We use it as a jumping-off point." + +I pointed out that even the scientific research was well done, the dialogue +ringing with authentic phrasings. + +"I did consult with a virologist to make sure that the genetic science in the +last show of the first season was correct. Beyond that we do it all +ourselves," Carter explains. + +It took a little digging to discover some of the related books that Carter has +read. He never finished Whitley Strieber's Communion. He's read Howard Blum's +Out There. He was familiar with the work of John Keel, but only after I +mentioned some titles. + +I admitted that Warner published my UFO fiction trilogy called The UFO +Conspiracy, and that I had done extensive research on the subject. What struck +me the most about X-Files was how dead-on the show had caputred the flavor and +tone of UFO and paranormal literature. + +Carter chuckled mischievously. + +While reading from my Warner UFO books, I found the focal part of my studies +in a Whole Earth Catalog book published by Harmony Press in 1989 titied The +Fringes of Reason. + +I can't help but suspect that it sits on Carter's office shelves, wellthumbed. +Whether or not it is, anyone interested in the paranormal or UFOs or areas of +thought and theory and experience that tilt amazingly and amusingly off the +plane of the quotidian should know about this book. + +Among the entries in a list of the nature of its contents on the back cover: +"Channeling. Psychic Powers. Crystals. Bigfoot. Shamanism. UFOs. Perpetural +Motion. Conspiracies. Flat Earth. Reincarnation. Spontaneous Human Combustion. +Weird Phenomena. Atlantis. Alien Abductions." + +If it's not the Bible of the X-Files, then it makes a very fine substitute. + +Fringers editor and contributing writer Ted Schultz is now a graduate student +in evoutionary biolory at Cornell University, studing entomolory-- +specifically, species of ants that grow elaborate fungus gardens. He worked +with the Whole Earth people for years and, because his interest in the outre +was known, was invited to edit a special issue on the subject. It was one of +the most popular issues that Whole Earth ever did. An expanded version became +the book. + +What a reader gets from The Fringes of Reason is the same thing that viewer +gets from X-Files: This subject matter is bizarre, it's creepy,it's +fascinating, it's wacky, and yet it is also very human. + +It also expands the mind. + +"In my childhood," says Schultz, "I was told that everyting had been figured +out. My job as a grade-school student was just to learn it. Then in fifty +grade I discovered an underground genre of literature. The Strange bu True +books, like Frank EDwards' Stranger Than Science. Thsi was a comic-book +frontier universe where things weren't known, where the rule was 'we don't +know what's going on, and it's not what the authorities tell us it is.' Ghost +books and flying-saucer books were big. Ivan Sanderson's Abominable S n o w m +a n books blew my mind. I discovered Fate magazine and started reading that. + +"Along the way I believed in almost all these things. As an adult I got into +Eastern religion and psychic phenomena. Net effect: With the sheer vastness +and internal inconsistencies of the material, all of it can't be true. The +occult systems were mutually contradictory. There had to be some standard by +which they were judged. Ultimately this led me to a more rational standard. My +enthusiasm for the material has not diminished, but I now have an +anthropological or sociological outlook. I'm not sure what these belief +systems are telling me about the real world, but I think that psy;chology and +neurobiology are the fields best equipped to delve into this." + +Could this be explosions of shamanistic needs from a culture cut off from a +rich aboriginal psychospiritual tradition that we still see, say, in American +Indians and other older groups? + +"I think so. I don't believe in the paranormal, but I think there's an +entirely different dimension of the mind that we're only beginning to +understand." + +Jay Kinney is publisher and editor-in-chief of Gnosis magazine, known as the +"Journal of the Western Inner Traditions." He helped put The Fringes of Reason +together and wrote articles for it. He voices a view from another side. + +"In our materialist, scientifically based societ where people are only willing +to believe something they are able to prove with hard scientific fact, UFOs +are something like a tantalizing reminder that the universe is bigger than our +day-to-day philosophies allow for. In that sense, UFOs give an opening for +people's spiritual urges. Whether its an ultimately useful direction to take +those urges, I'm a little skeptical. Moretraditional religious and spiritual +paths can serve just fine. I'm not sure that aliens add all that much. + +"Carl Jung viewed UFOs as a sort of eruption of archetypes out of the +collective unconscious. There's a new book out from Viking called Daimonic +Reality, by Patrick Harpur. He's positing that all this paranormal phenomena-- +be it Bigfoot, UFOs, or Fairies--are outcroppings of the same category of life +which is basically in between the physical and some high spiritual other +reality. An in-between zone. A zone of tricksters like Pan. The Little People +the Celts talk about. Visions of the Virgin Mary. Contacts with aliens. +Entities whose existence isn't quite on the same plane as ours (UFO +researchers) John Keel and Jacques Vallee have similar theories." + +Is X-Files dealing with the mythology of the twentieth century? + +"I think there is some kind of correlation," says Chris Carter. "Myths try to +explain the invisible. We're playing, but we're not trying to draw any hard +conclusions. We work with the unknown, we explore the unknown, but we don't +pretend to have any hard answers." + +Other journals take a different tack on these unusual subjects. + +The Skeptical Inguirer is a fusty magazine filled with grumpy essays by +brilliant people. Though a vital antidote to open-minded magazines and the +more credulous of the other media, ultimately it is not as much fun. + +What pray tell, do the editors think of X-Files? + +"I've seen it on a number of occasions," says Barry Karr, executive director +and public relations director. "It's funny you should ask. Last week we were +taling about it at a meeting. + +"CSICOP (the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the +Paranormal) is a group of individuals with different opinions. Some would have +problems with the X-Files, since it presents the paranormal as a given. I +enjoy the show. It's fiction; it's labeled as fiction. Our culture loves +horror stories, and the series is entertaining. + +"There are a lot of TV programs these days coming across as true +documentaries. TV has gone crazy on the paranormal bandwagon. Encounters. +Unsolved Mysteries. Sightings. They label them as true. X-Files , though, is a +good show." + +Karr voices the opinion of many concerning the other "true" paranormal shows. +They all seem to be tabloid television, far closer to Hard Copy than the +Mcneill-Lehrer Report. As "infotainment," they pander to the sensational with +only the occasional mutter of journalistic skepticism. Alas, they also +possibly feed the paranoia of the less-educated and more psychologically +susceptible. They exist more because of inexpensive production costs and +ratings hunger than any true interest in digging up the truth. + +Paradoxically, by plunging into fiction, X-Files gets closer to the facts. + +One such fact is that this is a paranoid age we find ourselves living to +today. The very stuff of X-Files is paranoia. + +In "Fallen Angel," we discover that the source of Mulder's UFO leads, Deep +Throat, has a stranglehold on the FBI and seems to be playing them like a +violin. Or is he? + +In the final show of the first season, "The Erlenmeyer Flask," Deep Throat is +killed. "Trust no one," he croaks before he croaks. + +Is this a responsible message for this day and age? + +"I think so," says Carter. "It's a distrust of authority coming through there. +I just think it's a personal thing I have about institutions and authority. +That's why I put it in the show." + +"It's hard to get a handle on what is going on in the world both politically +and spiritually without being a little paranoid," says Jay Kinney, publisher +of Gnosis magazine. "All sorts of revelations about covert operations foster a +certain paranoia. Some of that is a healthy paranoia. + +"Social paranoia is a growing niche market. There is a large portion of the +population that is primed not to believe what newspapers print or television +says. To me, that's healther than forty ;years ago when no one challenged the +official line." + +After a slow start, X-Files seems to be experiencing a growing popularity. +Virtually all the people I spoke with during my investigations enjoyed the +show. HarperPrizm Bookds will be publishing a series of original books based +on the series. The first three will be written by Charles L. Grant, who +promises more background material, particularly concerning Scully and Mulder's +private lives and pasts. Comic-book versions and lunch boxes seem inevitable. + +X-Files fans abound in cyberspace. Fans in the alt.tv.x-files newsgroup on the +Internet discuss each episode in nitpicking detail. Scully and Muldur find +themsleves sent on fan-created investigations in the companion alt.tv.x- +files.creative newsgroup. The agents even pop up in discussions in serious +UFO- and paranormal-related newsgroups such as alt.paranet.ufo. + +There's no question that people have experienced the unusual and bizarre. The +true question is, just what is the source of that experience? Here is the +essential beauty of X-Files, and why the show's format workds so well. + +Ultimately, through a fictional medium, the show takes a scary funhouse +freakshow ride through the human heart, mind, and spirit with no conclusions, +only questions as to the very nature of reality. + +Questions that can only linger in viewer's minds--and lives. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2808.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2808.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..aa34c4a8 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2808.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +SUBJECT: BELGIUM UFO SIGHTING REPORT 30-31 MARCH 1990 FILE: UFO2808 + + + + + +The following is a reprint of a summary report on the Belgian UFO activity. +Please note the methods of determination which are employed and the subsequent +findings of the Belgian military. + +ParaNet has established an interface with the Belgian investigators. More +material will be released as it becomes available. + + SUMMARY REPORT ON OBSERVATIONS 30-31 MARCH 1990 + +BACKGROUND +1. Starting early Dec 89 the BAF has been contacted on several occasions by +eyewitnesses who observed strange phenomena in the Belgian airspace. On some +occassions they described the phenomena as a triangle-shaped platform up to +200 feet wide with 3 downward beaming projectors, hovering at +- 100 m above +the ground and making only a very light humming noise. Some witnesses saw the +object departing at very high speed after a very fast acceleration. All +observations were made in the evening or during the night. 2. The radar +stations which had been alerted by eyewitnesses could not definitely determine +a correlation between the visual observations and their detections on radar. +On two occasions the BAF scrambled 2 F16 during the evening hours. a.On the +first occasion the F16 arrived +- 1 hour after the visual detection. Nothing +was observed. b. On the second occassion, pilots could identify a laser-beam +projector on the ground. After investigation it appeared however that the +description of the observations totally differed from previously described +phenomena. 3. Consequently the Belgian Airforce, anxious to identify the +origin of the phenomena, authorised F16 scrambles if following conditions were +met: a. Visual observations on the ground confirmed by the local police. b. +Detection on radar. + +EVENTS +4. On 30 Mar 1990 at 23.00 Hr the Master Controller (MC) of the Air Defence +radar station of Glons received a phone call from a person who declared to +observe three independant blinking lights in the sky, changing colours, with a +much higher intensity than the lights of the stars and forming a triangle. +Meteo conditions were clear sky, no clouds, light wind and a minor temperature +inversion at 3000 Ft. 5. The MC in turn notified the police of WAVRE which +confirmed the sighting at +- 23 30 Hr. Meanwhile the MC had identified a +radar contact at about 8 NM North of the ground observation. The contact +moved slowely to the West at a speed of =- 25kts and an altitude of 10.000 Ft. +6. The ground observers reported 3 additional light spots which moved +gradually, with irregular speeds, towards the first set of lights and forming +a second triangle. 7. At 23.50 a second radar station, situated at +- 100 NM +>from the first, confirmed an identical contact at the same place of the radar +contact of Glons. 8. At 00.05 Hr 2 F16 were scrambled from BEAUVECHAIN airbase +and guided towards the radar contacts. A total of 9 interception attempts +have been made. At 6 occasions the pilots could establish a lock-on with their +air interception radar. Lock-on distances varried between 5 and 8 NM. On all +occasions targets varied speed and altitude very quickly and break-locks +occured after 10 to 60 seconds. Speeds varied between 150 and 1010 kts. At 3 +occasions both F16 registered simultaneous lock-ons with the same parameters. +The 2 F16 were flying +- 2 NM apart. No visual contact could be established +by either of the F16 pilots. 9. The F16 flew 3 times through the observation +field of the ground observers. At the third passage the ground observers +notified a change in the behaviour of the light spots. The most luminous +started to blink very intensively while the other disappeared. Consequently, +the most luminous spot started to dim gradually. 10. Meanwhile the head of the +police of WAVRE had alerted 4 other police stations in the area. All four, +seperated +- 10 NM from each other, confirmed the visual observations. 11. The +aircraft landed at 01.10 Hrs. The last visual observation was recorded at +- +01.30 Hrs. + +CONCLUSIONS +12. The BELGIAN Airforce was unable to identify neither the nature nor the +origin of the phenomena. However, it had sufficient elements to exclude +following assumptions: a. Balloons. Impossible due to the highly variable +speeds (confirmed visually and by radar). b. ULM. Same as for balloons. c. +RPV. Impossible due to the hovering characteristics. d. Aircraft (including +Stealth). Same as for RPV. No noise. e. Laser projections or Mirages. +Unlikely due to lack of projection surface (no clouds). Light spots have been +observed from different locations. Light spots moved over distance of more +than 15 NM. Form of inlighted part of spots has been observed with +spectacles. Laser projections or mirages can not be detected by radar. + + {signed} + W. DE BROUWER + Kol Vl SBH + VS3 + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2810.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2810.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7b63a7f9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2810.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,421 @@ +SUBJECT: INFO: NOTED UFO AUTHOR, BUDD HOPKINS ON UFO ABDUCTION + +FILE: UFO2810 + + + + + + +This is an extract by Budd Hopkins courtesy of MUFON (Mutual +UFO Network). + +-------Begin Included Text----------------------------------- + ETHICAL IMPLICATIONS OF + THE UFO ABDUCTION PHENOMENON + + by Budd Hopkins + + + It is in the nature of human psychology that an event as dramatic as +contact with extraterrestrial intelligence can not be thought about _neut- +rally_, without deep-seated hopes and preconceptions. Most of us, I'm cer- +tain, prefer to believe that extraterrestrials would arrive on our planet +as friendly, helpful beings, eager to share their technology and to aid us +in solving our social and ecological problems. Upon this basic and very +human wish certain people have erected a powerful set of interpretations +of modern-day UFO reports. These hopes, hardened into a kind of theology, +can be described as a modern religion, willed into existence after the de- +cline of our more traditional deities. After all, we have been told more +than once that God is dead. + + On the other hand, our recent wars, both hot and cold, and the ven- +ality and deceit we have seen in many of our political leaders have also +inspired an undercurrent of pessimism, global in extent. International +chaos, terrorism and governmental incompetence have trained many of us +always to expect the worst. And so, if the majority opinion, or hope, is +that extraterrestrials would arrive as space brothers, a strong minority +opinion fears the opposite - that we would find ourselves taken over by a +band of inter-galactic conquerors. Our popular science fiction films spell +out these hopes and fears quite literally: We have the kindly Space Broth- +er, Michael Rennie, stepping out of a gleaming spaceship to help earth- +lings through their troubles, and then we have the Body Snatchers out to +do us all in. I've dwelt on these basic attitudes about extraterrestrial +contact for an important reason: when we examine reports of actual con- +tact, especially as revealed in UFO abduction encounters, we must always +bear in mind our basic preconceptions and how they might influence our +reading of these events. + + After twelve years of experience investigating the abduction phenom- +enon, I will not deal with the validity of such reports in this paper. +I've considered this issue elsewhere, in two books and a number of artic- +les, so we will here assume that the abductees I've worked with, more than +a hundred and fifty in all, are telling the truth as they best recall it. +I will concentrate instead on what information we can derive from their +accounts that might bear on the question of the moral nature of the UFO +phenomenon. Are the UFO occupants, as they are described by their abduc- +tees, good or bad, friends or foes, or is the situation just not reducible +to such terms? The very first step, obviously, is to analyze what the ab- +ductees say they feel about their captors, and that, every investigator +knows, is a complex task. My twelve years' experience leads me to a dis- +tinct conclusion: each abductee's emotions are invariably intense and many- +levelled - and usually mutually contradictory. + + First of all, confrontations with UFO occupants are generally experi- +enced as frightening, so fear, at some point, is an almost universal ele- +ment in the emotional mix. Second, there is a kind of awe or wonder at the +power and seeming magic of the aliens' technology. This often translates +itself into a kind of affection, even love, that an abductee might feel +for the particular captor with whom he or she senses a special relation- +ship. On the other side of the same coin there is an almost universal ang- +er - verging sometimes on hatred - that abductees feel towards their abduc- +tors because of their enforced helplessness, their sense of having been +used, involuntarily, and even, upon occasion, of being made to suffer +severe pain. According to every broad study of the abduction literature +that I know of, and Edward Bullard's is the most authoritative [ParaNet +members - see FUFOR.ORD], fear, awe, affection and anger are the basic +emotional components of almost every UFO abduction experience. It is safe +to say, then, that _powerful and confusing_ emotions follow such experi- +ences, and that after their encounters abductees do not believe they have +been taken either by purely malevolent foes nor by selfless, angelic space +brothers. The situation is far too complicated for either simplistic read- +ing. + + During the past eight years I have conducted an informal support +group for UFO abductees in the New York City area, and have kept in touch +with many others in various parts of the country. These circumstances have +allowed me to observe a number of men and women over an extended period of +time, and to see various patterns of response to their abduction experi- +ences. The weight of each component in the standard emotional mix varies +widely from individual to individual, and also changes with time within +any one psyche. But the basic components always seem to remain, subtly at +odds with one another, in each abductee. Several things must be kept in +mind, however, as we study the abductee's emotional charts. First, when +one is abducted, he or she is in something of an altered state, not unlike +a hypnotic trance. The abductee is _controlled_ by the abductors and his +or her behavior is in many ways far from normal. The abductee may be told +things, shown things, that may not be true or "real." So in this context +we must consider the abductee's occasional affection for his or her capt- +ors. Psychologists have shown that this phenomenon, the "Patty Hearst" +syndrome, all too often appears in earthly kidnapping experiences. There- +fore in evaluating the four emotions commonly described by UFO abductees, +three seem appropriate but one must be dealt with warily. Fear is some- +thing one would surely expect if the aliens actually look and act as re- +ported by their captives. Feelings of awe at the alien's technological +magic, an emotion that again seems appropriate. Anger, often to an extreme +degree, seems to be most abductee's reaction to being paralyzed and con- +trolled by their captors. The physically invasive and sometimes painful +operations performed upon them underline this response, which is often +deepened because the UFO occupants usually refuse to discuss the purpose +of these disturbing procedures. One has no choice except to submit to +needles, lights, knives, "scanners" and so forth, with no power to protest +or refuse. "I feel like a lab rat," one abductee said, her anger entirely +appropriate to her situation. It is the odd affection abductees often re- +port feeling for their captors that seems suspect, under the circumstan- +ces. Is this feeling possibly an artificial emotion, induced telepathic- +ally through some kind of quasi-hypnotic control? Is it a version of the +"Patty Hearst" syndrome? Is it a genuine reaction? Obviously no one can +answer these questions satisfactorily, but it seems to me that affection +is the one common abduction response that must be viewed with suspicion. + + When one tries to tally up the pros and cons of an abduction experi- +ence as it immediately and visibly affects human emotion, it can be said +that two reactions are essentially negative, or even damaging. Fear and +anger, which are often felt deeply as terror and hatred, are surely dis- +ruptive of anyone's life. The sense of awe, while basically neutral and +sometimes tinged with fear, may enhance one's world view, and thus con- +tribute positively. The fourth and most suspect emotion, affection for +one's captors, if genuine, is a positive one. So the emotional "score" af- +ter an abduction experience does not support either a simple "Space Broth- +er" or "Body Snatcher" interpretation. Judging purely by obvious surface +reactions we are still in ethically mixed territory, though to me and to +many abductees the negative effects seem more powerful than the positive. + + Moving away from the patterns of the abductees' immediate emotional +responses, we can evaluate the ethical content of an extraterrestrial pres- +ence by considering another, larger plane. Is there any evidence that ex- +traterrestrial intelligence has actively intervened in human affairs, eith- +er helpfully or destructively? The modern era of UFO activity begins in +earnest in 1947, but many UFO reports surfaced during World War II in the +phenomenon labelled "foo fighters" by our airmen. No force, either extra- +terrestrial or otherwise, put a stop to the Holocaust until the Allied +armies conquered Nazi Germany. By then it was too late for millions of in- +nocent people, murdered by a system no one seemed able to stop. The United +States developed nuclear weapons and used them to incinerate tens of thous- +ands of children, women and men. No one, terrestrial or otherwise, prevent- +ed those bombs from falling. Continuing Stalinist butchery, international +terrorism, American intervention in a Vietnamese civil war - all meant +that thousands upon thousands of innocent people lost their lives because +of the cruelty or indifference of political leaders of every persuasion. +No one intervened. Michael Rennie, alas, never stepped out of his space +ship to save us from ourselves. We have polluted our planet, spreading +cancer by industry's greedy indifference to the consequences of chemical +"bonanzas." No one came to our rescue; the Chariots of the Gods evidently +drew up just to watch the damage deepen. And now we have a new plague - +the disease known by its ironic acronym AIDS...something fresh and new +that we apparently did not have before the advent of the modern UFO era. + + Now all of this means one thing. As a moral presence the UFO phenom- +enon seems sublimely indifferent to what we do to ourselves. Intervention +is evidently not part of the plan, as diving into the surf to rescue a +drowning child is sometimes not part of an indolent sunbather's plans. On +the other hand there seems to be no evidence that an extraterrestrial pre- +sence has inflicted any excess pain upon us, either. If Michael Rennie's +alien only saves us in Hollywood films, the evil, intervening Body Snatch- +ers seem only to exist there, too. I believe that the cruelty that mankind +has endured in this century has an all too human origin; one doesn't have +to look to spaceships for its cause. And we look to them in vain even for +first aid, let alone salvation. + + But how should we evaluate what seems inescapable evidence of extra- +terrestrial indifference to human tragedy? I feel that the grades should +be harsh. The power and technology revealed by UFO report upon UFO report +indicates that intervention of some kind should have been possible; help +should have been given. Apologists for a Space Brothers theory use the +same argument as Christian Apologists: The UFO occupants, like God, tol- +erate evils such as the Holocaust because life is only a fleeting reality - + the afterlife, or a reincarnated life, renders this question moot. As a +Humanist I disagree. The death of a child at the hands of a gun-bearing +adult is an abomination, not a necessary learning experience. The only +excuse I can offer for extraterrestrial indifference is some kind of flaw +in their apparent power, some very real vulnerability that might provide +them with an excuse to avoid moral responsibility the way our indolent +sunbather could avoid trying to save the drowning child because he, him- +self, might be unable to swim. + + A few valid UFO cases contain accounts of healing, descriptions of +wounds healed, eyesight strengthened and so on, after UFO abductions or +encounters. However, these rare examples of healing raise more ethical +problems than they solve. If the occupants of UFOs _do_ have the power to +heal, why is it used so sparingly, so arbitrarily? Why save one swimmer +and let the others drown? A woman I've worked with and know well was ab- +ducted along with her older sister; each had had childhood abductions, +each had lived uneasily with her memories. Last spring the older sister +was murdered in a park, by an apparently deranged individual. The tragedy +had nothing to do with UFOs, but my friend said this to me: "I always +thought, somehow, they were looking out for us, watching over the people +they'd taken in these experiments. Now I know I'm no safer than anyone +else. They don't seem to care." And yet in one case I know about an abduct- +ee was apparently saved in a similar situation. The arbitrariness of it +all undermines any attempt to accept a Space Brother reading of the entire +phenomenon. Amorality is the term that comes most quickly to mind. + + If the immediate emotional reactions to UFO abductions are usually +more negative than positive, and there is literally no sign of benign ex- +traterrestrial intervention in world affairs, there is still one more area +to examine, and it is extremely important. It is the long term psycholog- +ical aftereffects of UFO abductions experiences. Dr. Aphrodite Clamar, a +clinical psychologist with whom I have worked in many such investigations, +has stated that she feels almost every abductee she has dealt with has +been psychologically scarred by the experience. This is surely my opinion +also, and I believe that the psychological tests of abductees administered +by Dr. Elizabeth Slater, as well as the psychological histories taken +through Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in New York City all provide sup- +port for this thesis. Though she points out that cause and effect ob- +viously cannot be established with certainty, Dr. Slater describes the +psychological profiles of the nine abductees she tested as resembling +those found with rape victims - a low self-esteem, a distrust of their +bodies, their physicality, their sexuality, and a hesitancy to trust oth- +ers. Not a pretty legacy from our would-be Space Brothers. + + My case files include three instances in which individuals - all +males and apparently somewhat depressed to begin with - committed suicide +after what were described by their friends and family as UFO abduction ex- +periences. And there is more on this debit side of the ledger, including +what seems to have been an accident following a car-stopping incident and +abduction; the driver, the only surviving parent of four children, died +later of complications suffered in this encounter. Two female abductees +I've worked with either planned or carried out suicide attempts when they +were ten years old, and another recent attempt involves a frightened, des- +pondent fourteen-year-old girl. + + No one who has had this experience regards it as an unmitigated +blessing. Some live in perpetual terror. Some have suffered nervous +breakdowns, and as a result of their experiences and the chemical and +shock treatments administered by baffled and incompetent doctors, are +living thoroughly damaged lives. I have seen disfiguring scars on the +bodies of abductees who have involuntarily been used in the UFO occupant's +"medical" procedures. Yet I have also seen abductees whose lives have been +undeniably broadened by their bizarre experiences; survivors who have man- +aged the human task of surmounting their traumas and gaining something +>from them. The reports, again, are mixed, but the pain and suffering are +immense. Deaths, injuries, terrors and mental breakdowns must be weighed +against a philosophical broadening in many individuals, an awareness that +the universe is larger - and closer - than anyone had imagined. The cost, +of course, has been tremendous, and the gain due more to human resilience +than alien kindness. + + But there is, I believe, an explanation for the apparently callous +and often destructive behavior of the aliens who perpetrate these tempor- +ary kidnappings of innocent men, women and children. One vivid example +should make the point. Two years ago a man in Minnesota whom I shall call +Earl wrote to me about his partially remembered UFO experiences. Eventual- +ly I visited him on his farm, and we began a series of hypnotic regres- +sions. He recalled a time years before when his wife had been helping him +harvest a crop of hay in a rather isolated field. She lay down to rest on +the wagon while Earl worked a few hundred yards away...but then he saw +three small UFOs fly in at tree-top level and hover above his sleeping +wife. One of them lowered to the ground as Earl put his tractor in gear +and raced to her side to protect her from whatever was happening. A normal- +looking blond man, speaking English, stepped from behind the clump of +trees where the UFO had landed and asked Earl to stop; "Everything is all +right," he said. "She won't be hurt." Earl ignored him and leaped off the +tractor, continuing on foot towards the wagon where his wife lay, surround- +ed now by small, gray-skinned figures. Earl suddenly found himself para- +lyzed and helpless. He stood there, unable to move, as the blond man con- +tinued speaking, assuring him that "everything is all right. Nothing will +happen to your mate." Earl watched in horror as his paralyzed wife was un- +dressed. A Long needle was pushed into her abdomen as she lay on a bed of +hay, crying out at the pain, but unable to resist. Skin and hair samples +were taken, and a thin probe was inserted into her vagina. Still frozen in +place, Earl cursed and raged, and the blond man seemed genuinely surprised +by his reaction. "We _want_ you to see this," he said. "We're not hurting +your mate. She'll be fine. Why are you upset? We're not hurting her..." + + The scene ended shortly thereafter, and the couple returned home, +aware of a period of missing time, but with no memories of the UFO en- +counter. In the days and weeks after this event, Earl's wife began suf- +fering from nightmares, clawing in her sleep at the area near the bridge +of her nose, between her eyes, and screaming for them to "take it out, +it's hurting." She dug deep gouges in her forehead while the nightmares +continued unabated. Other symptoms of her terror appeared, half-understood +recollections of the events in the hay field. Eventually she had to be hos- +pitalized, suffering from a severe nervous breakdown. She lives at home +now, tranquilized and sadly no longer herself. + + This story is but one of many which I could present to illustrate a +central point about UFO occupants and their relation to their human sub- +jects: they simply appear unable for the most part to understand us, our +feelings, our terrors, our love for one another. They seem psychologically +blind to basic human emotions. In my book _Intruders_ I recounted case af- +ter case in which women were artificially inseminated or endured ova- +retrieval operations, but whose reactions of rage or terror seemed surpris- +ing to their captors. These impassive UFO occupants seem as remote from +our "peculiar" human emotions as they are from our obviously differing +anatomy; perhaps more so. And their basic lack of understanding provides +us with a kind of excuse for their callous behavior. + + It seems to me that we are left with but two possibilities, neither +of which is very attractive. If the UFO occupants actually do understand +us and can empathize with our needs and emotions, then they are morally +deficient -- even cruel in their single-minded selfishness. Not malevolent +or deliberately evil, but as callous as the sunbather who watches the +child drown in the surf. At some point, amoral behavior becomes immoral +behavior. But if these same alien beings _simply do not understand our +feelings_, then they have an excuse of sorts for their behavior. And the +evidence suggest they really may not know what disasters they sometimes +cause. A female abductee recently wrote me a letter which goes in part: + + + I was watching a show about animals, because I love + animals. I don't know if it was _Wild Kingdom_ or some + _National Geographic_ show, but these scientists were + tracking some polar bears. They had all kinds of weird + looking equipment and were using a white board which + rendered them invisible in the snow to the bears. As I + watched I got a real sick feeling in the pit of my stom- + ach. These scientists were dressed in identical white + suits, lured the bears closer, and drugged the big one + with the cubs. The whole time they were tagging her they + were taking blood samples, measuring fat, checking eyes, + mouth, etc. And whenever the bear struggled they would pet + her, talk to her, tell her everything was going to be + fine. The cubs stayed close. The scientists placed a de- + vice on her that would track her for so many years. They + even marked her with a special paint that could be spotted + from the air. Then when they were through with her they + ran and hid behind the big screen so that when she woke up + she wouldn't see them. She got up, looked around, and ran + so fast her cubs could hardly keep up. Imagine how she + must have felt the other times when they followed her in a + helicopter. She could run, but with that paint and homing + device she could never hide! I think all we are is a bunch + of animals to these beings. Some little experiment that + has been ongoing for who knows how long. I don't like the + idea of being something's lab animal. + + + I thought about her letter, her understanding of the animal's plight +and the traumas inflicted by the scientists upon the bear and its cubs. +These zoologists - as well as the occupants of UFO's, one hopes - are all +acting from decent, scientific motives. And yet in both cases pain is in- +flicted, paralysis is imposed, and traumatic terror is the result. Some +animals might abandon their cubs after such an experience or die of a mis- +measured dose of a tranquilizing drug or even die from pure shock, just as +some humans, like Earl's poor wife, may never recover from the horror of +their experience. Sad though this alternative seems, it is easier for me +to believe that the occupants of UFOs simply do not understand what they +are doing to us, what traumas they are inflicting, than to believe they do +know and are merely indifferent to human suffering. + + I have talked to many people who will not give up on the benign +Space Brother reading of these cases, no matter what. At the outset I said +that our quasi-religious hopes die slowly. And so, despite massive negat- +ive evidence, there are still many people who cling to the idea that some- +how, some way there may be _two_ alien groups, one bad and one good. The +bad group, according to this theory, does the abducting and experimenting +while the good group really loves and understands us. Sometimes a kind of +sub rosa Aryan racism can be detected beneath these hopes, in that the +"grays," as they have been called, are the bad aliens, while the more at- +tractive "blonds" are good. In my twelve years of investigation, however, +the more human-seeming aliens, whenever they are reported (as in the cases +of Earl and his wife or the Travis Walton abduction), seem to be operating +as a team right along with the so-called "grays," participating in abduct- +ions-as-usual. There is not a shred of evidence that I know of supporting +this simple-minded good-guys, bad-guys dichotomy - but there is plenty of +evidence that this kind of wishful thinking is an all too common psycholog- +ical habit. + + The Contactee phenomenon, discounted by almost all serious investi- +gators, represents the triumph of hope against reality, of need against +evidence. The abduction cases I've studied over the years can be defined +as being, in effect, "all evidence and no ideology," while the contactee +cults are essentially the opposite. Contactee messages, as passed on +through helpful "channels," reduce themselves generally to soft entreaties +to love one another, to make peace, not war, and to take care of our plan- +et's precarious ecology - in other words, the kind of cliche' even people +like Reagan and Gorbachev routinely utter in their formal speeches. (This +kind of nebulous message, it should be said, is sometimes also reported in +valid UFO abduction cases. What we really need, one abductee said to me, +is actual alien help in solving our problems, not just another newspaper +editorial pointing them out.) In short, there is no reason to assume that +any benign group of aliens anywhere has yet done anything truly helpful to +our planet. Such evidence simply does not exist. + + The final difficulty in the cultist view of a "good alien - bad +alien duality" lies in the age-old problem of evil. If the bad aliens are +hurting us by their abductions, why don't the good aliens prevent it? For +centuries we've asked ourselves, if God is omnipotent, how can he permit, +say, the torture of children? Many of us felt that since no answer consist- +ent with the idea of God's omnipotence could satisfy us, there was some- +thing seriously wrong with the theology. And so it is with this kind of +alien theology, apart from the fact that there is no credible evidence of +any kind indicating a struggle between rival alien groups. If there are +various groups of aliens from different places of origin in the Universe, +they are apparently all co-operatively doing the same thing to us, the hu- +man race - and I for one think that what they're doing is, in the short +term at least, immensely destructive. + + Once again we are back to the only two viable alternatives. Either +the UFO occupants have not grasped the psychological toll they are taking +in these abductions and genetic experiments because they really do not +understand human psychology, _or_ they must be viewed as a callous, indif- +ferent, amoral race bent solely upon gratifying its own scientific needs +at whatever the cost to us, the victims. The question of which alternative +is true cannot be presently answered. There is evidence to support both +interpretations, but I, for one, wish to choose the former. + + Budd Hopkins + New York, September 1987 + + Copyright Budd Hopkins 1987 + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------- +EOF + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2811.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2811.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7bb53552 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2811.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,1179 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO HISTORY I FILE: UFO2811 + + +PART 1/5 + + + + + +I just completed a research paper on UFO's and the media's coverage of the +phenomenon over the last 50 years. I'll be sharing some of the finer aspects +of my study in the next few weeks with the readers of a.a.v. in hope of +stimulating interest among newcomers to this group, as well as reaffirming +some of the established facts and history surrounding UFOLOGY. Hopefully it +will stimulate some constructive discussions. I personally feel that the +only way to start is by paying tribute to "Titaniun Knight" (who is sorely +missed) for having contributed so much pertinent data to this news group in +1993. The following chronology of UFO History I & II (in nine parts) is one +of his greatest contributions to the continuing study and expansion of this +subject. + + + Alberto + + + +Subject: UFO History I 1/5 + + + GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN THE UFO COVERUP: CHRONOLOGY + + (based on FOIA Papers and personal testimony) Version 2.09 + + + COPYRIGHT SEPTEMBER 8, 1988 by PEA RESEARCH + ULTRA MAJIC BBS, (916)684-5578 + ............................................................ + (UFOHIST1.TXT Part one) + +Apr. 17, 1897..Aurora, TX: An airship supposedly crashed into Judge +Proctor's (nonexistent) windmill and disgorged the mangled body of a +little man believed, for unspecified reasons, to hail from the planet +Mars. This (supposedly) turned out to be a publicity stunt for the +town, whose population and economy were on the decline. + +1922...........County Donegal, Ireland: Irish Republic Army man, +Lawrence Bradley, wrote to the editor of "Watford and West-Hersts +Post" magazine (4/30/64) that while he was fighting a scattered rear- +guard, mostly in the mountains of Donegal, he came upon a cave with +vegetation at the entrance that had been scorched. The only occupants +in the cave were the sick and the wounded that had been unable to +walk. The six able-bodied soldiers that were looking after them said +they had been awakened early pre-dawn by a whirring noise outside of +the cave and had fired their rifles in the direction of the noise, +thinking that it was an armored car. Suddenly the object retaliated by +firing jets of flame at the cave entrance. After near suffocation, the +soldiers ran out to see the flame throwing UFO ascending into the sky. +Clearly visible, it was circular in shape and glowing and of a shiny +metal. + +Feb. 26, 1942..SECRET MEMO to the President from Chief of Staff, C.G. +Marshall stating: UFOs appeared over Los Angeles, CA, yesterday +morning. The 37th Brigade (AA) expended 1430 rounds of ammunition +against them. No bombs dropped, no casualties among our troops, no +planes (UFOs) shot down, no AA or Navy planes were in action. (AA +Document, OCS 21347-86.) + +1944...........During WW II, E.L. (initials), serving as Carpenter +Mate, 1st Class, Hqt. Co. 112th Construction Battalion, came across a +landed saucer near a wooded ridge, near the beach of Kaneohe, Oahu, +Hawaii. Description: 50 ft. diam.; metallic; looked like an igloo; +topped with a clear glass dome about a foot high with a gold colored +weather vane-like device spinning inside. + +Sep. 4, 1946...TOP SECRET MEMO, to NO?- Mr. Morgan, from CON- Mr. Lyon +stating: 800 reports (of UFOs) have been reported with new ones coming +in daily from Sweden. Full details of these reports have been +forwarded to Wash., D.C. by our Military and Naval Attaches. + +Jan. 1947...... W.H. (initials) of Yucca Valley, Calif., while still +serving in the U.S. Navy, was on leave with C.C.(initials) who was +just out of the U.S. army. While they were looking for desert property +to buy they came upon the Papagos Indian Reservation, north of the +rugged Superstition Mtns. west of Globe, Arizona. While traveling on a +dirt trail, they came upon a group of military personnel guarding a +crashed saucer half buried in the sand. Description: Disc shaped with +a domed top; about 30 ft. diam.; two rings on its outer edge which +seemed to have windows between them. There was no evidence of an +encampment or heavy equipment. + +June 24, 1947..A civilian pilot, Kenneth Arnold, reports seeing 9 +flying saucers flying in formation at an altitude of 9200 feet and at +almost 1700 mph. He estimated them to be 20 to 25 miles away from him +and between 45 to 50 feet long. + +Jul. 2, 1947...Magdalene, N.M.: Mr. Barnett sighted a shiny object out +in the desert and, upon investigation, came upon a crashed disc-shaped +object, 9 meters (30 ft.) across. Later a military truck arrived to +supervise the investigation of the crash site. Barnett saw dead bodies +strewn about the crash site. They weren't wearing military uniforms, +and in fact didn't even look human. Seen from a distance, the bodies +had on silvery suits and appeared to be about 3 ft. tall. + +July 7, 1947...SECRET operation to recover a crashed saucer in New +Mexico 75 miles northwest of Roswell Army Air Base (RAAF). + +(see 7/2/47;7/8/47) + +July 8, 1947...FBI, Dallas, sends teletype to director of FBI stating +that a flying saucer crashed this date and was recovered near Roswell, +N. M. RECOVERY B1-G,19. July 8, 1947...The Roswell Army Air Force +captured a downed flying saucer near Roswell, N.M. according to Maj. +Marcel as reported by the Roswell Daily Record. Maj. J. A. Marcel was +intelligence officer at RAAF at the time. + +July 8, 1947...URGENT FBI MEMO from Gen. Roger Ramey concerning +"flying disc information": "Maj. Curtan, HQ 8th AF, telephonically +advised this office that an object purporting to be a flying disc was +recovered near Roswell, N.M., this date...Information provided this +office because of national interest in case and fact that (certain +media sources) attempting to break the story of location of disc +today...(the recovered disc was) being transported to Wright Field by +special plane for examination...Maj. Curtan advised would request +Wright Field to advise (FBI) results of examination." (see +7/2/47;7/7/47) + +Jul. 10, 1947..FBI MEMO: Gen. George F. Schulgen organizes top +scientists to determine if the flying discs are indeed fact and +whether or not they are a foreign body mechanically devised and +controlled. He desired the assistance of the FBI in locating and +questioning the individuals who firstsighted the discs. Col. L. R. +Forney of MID indicated that it has been established that the flying +discs are not the result of any Army or Navy experiments and should be +of interest to the FBI. + + +July 12, 1947..In a declassified statement, Kenneth Arnold points out +why the unidentified discs he saw couldn't have been mirages: "I +observed these objects not only through the glass of my airplane but +turned my airplane sideways where I could open my window and observe +them with a completely unobstructed view (without sunglasses)." Jul. +15, 1947..MEMO to Mr. Ladd with a handwritten note from J. Edgar +Hoover, Director of the FBI stating, "...before agreeing (to the +investigation of crashed saucers)...we must insist upon full access to +discs recovered. For instance in the Soc. (Socorro, N.M.) case the +Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination. +July, 1947.....Conclusion to an FBI/ARMY INTELLIGENCE REPORT: Based on +a detailed study of the Kenneth Arnold case (6/24/47) and 15 other UFO +encounters during the first month of the "flying saucer" mystery the +conclusion is "this flying saucer situation is not all imaginary or +seeing too much in some natural phenomenon. Something is really flying +around." (This report was declassified FOIA, 1976. see +6/24/47;9/23/47) Mid July, 1947. In a paper by U.S. Navy Physicist, +Dr. Bruce Maccabee, he stated: "...the Air Force knew by the middle of +July, 1947 that saucers were real Flying Saucers are REAL! and not +manmade...the technology represented by the (recovered) disc...was so +far beyond our own that it could not be understood +immediately...Therefore it would be necessary to treat the disc as a +military secret. This would mean containing all information about it +within some small group." [Date of this Navy paper not mentioned.] +(see 1/31/49) + +Nov. 30, 1947..In a TOP SECRET DOCUMENT, Dr. Bronk's scientific team +classifies extraterrestrials as EBE's (Extra Biological Entities). + +Sept. 19,1947..The recovered crashed saucer in New Mexico is +determined to be a short range reconnaissance craft (from a mother +ship). + +Sept. 23,1947..SECRET BRIEFING DOCUMENT to Brig. General George +Schulgen,AC/AS-2, from Lt. Gen. Nathan F. Twining (MJ-4), Commanding +Officer, AMC, stating: Flying Saucers are REAL! Concerning "Flying +Discs" the phenomenon reported is something real, not fictitious. +These objects approximate the shape of a disc and appear to be as +large as man-made aircraft. They have operating characteristics such +as extreme rate of climb and maneuverability. Under a Security Code +Name copies of this information will be sent to Army, Navy, AEC, JRDB, +SAG, NACA, RAND and NEPA Projects. (AAF Record, U-39552. see +7/47;9/15/50;8/54) Sept. 24,1947..A covert operation, MAJESTIC-12, is +established and classified TOP SECRET by President H. Truman. It +consists of 12 persons selected to control all branches of government, +both military and non-military. This ultimately led to silencing of +UFO witnesses, confiscating of UFO photos, harassing and debunking of +witnesses (ref. "Black Budget"; JMP letter see 2/15/87;9/4/87) + +Dec. 30, 1947..Project SIGN formed to obtain information about saucer +performance characteristics and their purpose on earth. B1-G,23 + +1948...........Capt. Edward J. Ruppelt stated: "With the Soviets +practically eliminated as a UFO source the idea of interplanetary +spaceships was becoming more popular." [Exact date of statement not +mentioned.] + +Jan. 7, 1948...Maysville, KN: The local Highway Patrol are notified +that an UFO has been sighted high up in the sky and they notify Godman +AFB of the sighting...At 1:45 pm T. Sgt. Quinton Blackwell visually +scanned the skies south of Godman AFB and picked out a dim light in +the hazy sky. By the time base commander Col. Guy Hix arrived at 2:20 +pm the UFO looked like "an ice cream cone" through binoculars. About +20 minutes later 4 National Guard aircraft flew into the vicinity with +Capt. Thomas Mantell in one of the F-51s. + +Jan. 7, 1948...(TS REPORT 100-203-79,p.12,sec. k.) Capt. Thomas +Mantell, a Nat. Guard pilot, was killed trying to chase an UFO up to +30,000 ft. His last message to the tower was, "it appears to be +metallic object....of tremendous size....directly ahead and slightly +above....I am trying to close for a better look." (The F-51 exploded +in mid-air and disintegrated before it struck the ground. State Police +estimated the saucer to be 250 ft. diam.) + +Feb. 13, 1948..Crash/Recovery at Aztec, N.M. Dr. Gee (actually +GeBauer) claimed to have been with the recovery team when 16 little +human-like beings were found dead aboard a crashed saucer in N.M. +According to Jerome Clark, Gebauer and Silas Newcomb were later +arrested for trying to sell "worthless" UFO hardware. (No release date +from prison?) + +Mar. 25, 1948..The Army OSI and the IPU put on Red Alert and the ADC +activated the local military units when a UFO crashed in the vicinity +of Aztec, N.M. When the saucer got into range of a Special High- +Powered radar at the Four Corners Range (Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, +Colorado) it began to flutter and wobble from side-to-side and took a +trajectory towards the ground. It seems that the beam from this +special radar had an ill-effect on the control system of the saucer. +The 100 ft. saucer crash-landed on Mr. H.D.'s (initials) property. +H.D. and family were sworn to secrecy. (see 3/22/50) + +1948...........Capt. "Posty" Postlethwaite of G-2 Air, cleared for Top +Secret, received a TOP SECRET incoming TWX from 3rd Army Headquarters, +Atlanta, directed to the Commanding General, White Sands Proving +grounds. Message: Crash of a 100 ft. diam. saucer, 30 ft. ht.; one +portal window blown; 5 Aliens suffocated; each Alien approx. 4 ft. in +ht., oversized heads; hull of craft paper-thin but impenetrable by +conventional tools. Private property purchased to facilitate movement +of recovered disc. (see 3/25/48) + +Apr. 5, 1948...(TS REPORT 100-203-79, p.12,Sec. L.) 3 trained balloon +observers from the Geophysics Lab., N.J., sighted UFO travelling very +fast and it appeared to execute violent maneuvers at high speed. + +>>> Continued.. + +X-NEWS: yvax.byu.edu alt.alien.visitors: 32337 +Path: +hamblin.math.byu.edu!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.resto +n.ans.net!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!alberto +From: alberto@garnet.berkeley.edu () +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: UFO History I 2/5 +Date: 27 Apr 1994 15:10:01 GMT +Organization: University of California, Berkeley +Lines: 223 +Message-ID: <2plv89$mcg@agate.berkeley.edu> +NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu + +Subject: * UFO History I 2/5 + + +Apr. 30, 1948..(TS REPORT 100-203-79, p.12,Sec. M.) Lt. Comdr. Marcus +L. Lowe while on a flight observed a yellow or light colored sphere 25 +to 40 ft. diam. moving at a speed of approx. 100 mph against wind. + +June 15, 1948..(TS REPORT 100-203-79,p.12,Sec.P-2) Mr. Booneville +observed a reddish glow with a jet exhaust in the vicinity of Miles +City, Montana. Made no sound, travelled at twice the speed of +conventional aircraft. + +July 1, 1948...(TS REPORT 100-203-79, p.12,Sec. N.) Maj. Hammer, Rapid +City Air Base, reported seeing 12 discs over the base. These disks +were oval-shapedand about 100 ft. diam., speed in excess of 500 mph. +Made 30 and 40 degree climbing turn, accelerating very rapidly out of +sight. + +July 17, 1948..(TS REPORT 100-203-79, p.12,Sec. O) Kirtland AFB +reported 7 UFOs flying a "J" formation in the vicinity of San Acacia, +N.M., at altitude of 20,000 ft. Formation varied from "J" to "L" to +"O" after passing zenith. Est. speed 1500 mph. + +July 20, 1948..(TS REPORT 100-203-79,p.12,Sec.Q) A.D. Otter and his +daughter Arnham, in the Netherlands, sight UFO similar to the UFO +sighted on July 25, 1948, by two Eastern Airlines pilots. (see +7/25/48) + +July 25, 1948..(TS REPORT 100-203-79,p.12,sec.Q) Two Eastern Airlines +pilots reported seeing an object like a huge V-2 Rocket pass their +jet. Sighted 4 times through scattered clouds and unlimited +visibility, travelling at high speed and high altitude. Description: +Appeared wingless, had two decks, and made a sound similar to that of +a V-2. (see 7/20/48;8/3/48;1/31/50) + +Aug. 3, 1948...(TS REPORT 100-203-79,p.12,Sec.R) UFO sighted over +Moscow that is similar to the UFO sighted on July 25, 1948, by two +Eastern Airlines pilots. (see 7/25/48) MOSCOW + +Sep. 12, 1948..(TS REPORT 100-203-79,p.12,Sec.P-1) Pilot and Co-pilot +of a Pan Am aircraft en route from Midway to Honolulu, saw a blue- +white light approaching, changing to twin reddish glows upon +withdrawal. Est. speed: 1000knots. + +Oct. 1, 1948...(TS REPORT 100-203-79,p.12,Sec.S) 2nd Lt. George F. +Gorman (North Dakota Air Nat. Guard), sighted a UFO 3000 ft. below him +while he was flying his F-51 at 4500 ft. The pilot pursued the UFO +which took evasive tactics. The UFO out-turned, out-speeded and out- +climbed the F-51 in every attempt at intercept. The pilot lost contact +with the UFO. + +Oct. 15, 1948..JAPAN, an F-61 "Black Widow" fighter tracked an UFO on +radar and tried to intercept it 6 times without success. It would +speed up from 200 mph to 1200 mph, leaving the interceptor behind. +Description: shaped like a rifle bullet and apparently 20 to 30 feet +long. + +Nov. 18, 1948..Report from Project SIGN, incident No. 207 in Blue Book +files: at approx. 2200 hours, Lt. Henry G. Combs (AFRes) spotted an +oval shaped UFO while flying in a T-6 plane. The UFO accelerated +rapidly from 80 mph to 500 or 600 mph. It remained under observation +for some 10 minutes. The UFO displayed "evasive controlled tactics and +an ability to perform tight circles, quick variation of air speed, +vertical ascents and evasive movements." This occurred over Andrews +AFB. + +Nov. 23, 1948..Wire Report from GERMANY to Project SIGN: Capt. (blank) +is an experienced pilot and completely reliable. While flying an F-80 +over a US Air Base in the Fursten-Feldbruck area of Germany, he had +radar and visual contact with a circling red-lighted UFO at 2200 hours +at 27,000 ft. Ground radar determined that it was going 900 mph and +climbed quickly to 50,000 ft. in a matter of minutes and dissappeared. + +Dec. 10, 1948..TOP SECRET Air Intelligence REPORT No. 100-203-79 +issued. (see 1/7/48 thru 11/1/48) + +Dec. , 1948....Project SIGN evolves into Project GRUDGE and is +conducted under the code name BLUE BOOK. The liaison between Project +GRUDGE and MJ-12 is the Air Force officer in head of BLUE BOOK. (Capt. +Ruppelt?)(see 3/52) + +Jan. 6, 1949...Rocket shaped UFO sighted near Los Alamos, N.M. (see +1/31/49;7/25/48) + +Jan. 13, 1949..CONFIDENTIAL 4th Army MESSAGE: Col. Eustis L. Poland +stated: "Un conventional Aircraft" have been sighted (see Report, +Control No.A-1917). Possible Radiological warfare tests are being made +over sensitive Bases in New Mexico area. A foreign power may be making +"sensing shots" with some super-stratosphere devise designed to be +self-disentegrating. + +Jan. 31, 1949..CONFIDENTIAL Army Staff MESSAGE: Approx. 30 people +sighted UFOs on Jan. 30, 1949. Estimate at least 100 total sightings. +Sightings reported from El Paso, Alburquerque, Alamogordo, Roswell, +Socorro, and other locations. All sightings appear to be of the same +object viewed from different angles. Will attempt to locate the impact +point, if any. (Possible search teams in UFOs.) + +Jan. 31, 1949..MEMO, DIRECTOR OF FBI: Flying Saucers have been +discussed by the OSI, FBI and the Fourth ARMY and is "considered TOP +SECRET by Intelligence Officers of both the Army and the Air Forces." +It was thought that the first UFOs over Sweden were of Russian origin. +MEMO also makes reference to the Eastern Airlines sighting of July 25, +1948. Also, on 10 different days, between 12/05/48 and 01/06/49, +sightings of UFOs were concentrated over the A.E.C. plant at Los +Alamos, N.M. (Circulation of this MEMO to: El Paso, Little Rock, +Dallas, Oklahoma City. see 7/25/48;7/47;8/4/50) + +Feb. 4, 1949...CONFIDENTIAL Army Staff MESSAGE dated Jan. 31, 1949 +read by OSI: "all out investigation of possible crashed saucer, OK'd." + +Feb., 1949.....Part of the Final Report of Project SIGN, written by +Prof. George Valley, of MIT stating: "If there is an extraterrestrial +civilisation which can make objects as are reported, then it is most +probable that its development is far in advance of ours...such a +civilisation might observe that on earth we now have atomic bombs and +are fast developing rockets. In view of the past history of mankind, +they would be alarmed. We should, therefore, expect at this time above +all to behold such visitations." + +Apr. 24, 1949..Arrey, NM: Aerologist Charles B. Moore, Jr., while +tracking a weather baloon for General Mills Co. with a theodolite +suddenly noticed an UFO rapidly crossing the sky. He and 4 other +technicians turned the 25 power theodolite to track the UFO. It was a +featureless ellipse, its length about 2-1/2 times its width. After +about 60 seconds the object dissappeared in a sharp climb. Based on +measurements with the mountain range behind it, it was calculated to +be going between 18,000 mph and 25,000 mph (in the atmosphere!). + +May 22, 1949...Secretary Forrestal (MJ-3) is found dead after falling +16 floors from an insane assylum window. [He was supposedly shouting, +"we're being invaded!" before he fell to his death.] June 10, +1949..White Sands, NM: Scientists tracking a test missile at 2,000 ft/ +second suddenly picked up two small circular UFOs that paced the +missile. One of the UFOs passed thru the missiles exhaust and rejoined +the other UFO, and together they quickly accelerated upwards leaving +the missile behind. Cmdr. McLaughlin received reports from 5 +observation posts: ALL had witnessed the performance of the 2 circular +UFOs. + +Jan. 16, 1950..CLASSIFIED USAF Staff Message: At a radar station near +New Mexico a person reported seeing 2 saucers. One was badly damaged +the other almost perfectly intact. Description: Each consisted of 2 +parts, a cockpit or cabin about 6 ft. diam.; a ring approx. 18 ft. +across and 2 ft. thick surrounding cabin, resembling aluminum, but +actual metal has defied analysis by the Dearborn Plant. 2 crew members +in the damaged ship were charred but in the undamaged ship the 2 crew +members were perfectly preserved. + +Jan. 22, 1950..Kodiak, Alaska: U.S. Navy patrol plane pilot, Lt. +Smith, was on routine security flight when he picked up a radar track +on an UFO, two times. Smith then radioed Kodiak radar station and was +advised that no known traffic was in his radar area. Moored south of +Kodiak was the USS Tillamock with Master Morgan standing on watch. +Suddenly, at 3 a.m., "a very fast moving red glow appeared to be of +exhaust nature, seemed to come from the south-east, moved clockwise in +a large circle in the direction of, and around Kodiak and returned out +in a generally south-east direction. The UFO was moving so fast that +it was actually leaving a streak on Smith's radar screen. It was +estimated to be moving at a speed of 1800 mph. Described as "two +orange lights rotating about a common center like two jet aircraft +making slow rolls in tight formation." The UFO then made an abrupt +turn and headed directly towards Smiths' aircraft in a threatening +gesture so Smith quickly turned off all of his lights turn make his +plane less conspicuous in the inky colored sky. The UFO flew by him +and disappeared in the south-east in a matter of minutes. + +Jan. 31, 1950..Office MEMO, Director FBI, SAC, San Antonio: A UFO +resembling a rocket ship without wings appeared out of a thunderhead +of clouds narrowly missing an Eastern Airlines flight and disappeared +into another cloud. It was travelling approx. 2700 mph and no sound or +air disturbance was noted with it. During the past two months the UFO +sightings appeared to be concentrated near Los Alamos, N.M. This UFO +was also sighted near Los Alamos on Jan. 6, 1949. (see 7/25/48) + +March. 22, 1950..FBI MEMO: 3 saucers recovered in New Mexico. +Description: Circular with raised centers, approx. 50 ft. diam. Each +one occupied by 3 bodies, only 3 ft. tall, dressed in metallic suite, +taped like high-speed flyers. It is believed that a very high powered +Radar Station interfered with their control mechanisms, causing them +to crash. (see 3/25/48) + +Mar. 22, 1950..Dept. Transportation, Ottawa, Canada, announces plans +to build and test free energy geomagnetic engine. Also state that "Dr. +Vannevar Bush heads Highest Secret saucer research group in the +U.S.A.". Mar. 31, 1950..MEMO to Director, F.B.I. pertaining to flying +saucers. Memo names a person in Denver, Colorado that claims to +possess a UFO radio transmitter. + +Aug. 1, 1950...Gen. Walter B. Smith fills the vacant MJ-3 position. + +Aug. 4, 1950...CONFIDENTIAL MEMO from Lt. Colonel Mildren (G-3) to +Maj. U.G. Carlan (GSC Survey Section): Since July 30, 1950, UFOs have +been sighted over the Hanford AEC Plant. Air Force jets fails to +intercept them. FBI, anti-aircraft battalion, radar units and fighter +squadrons alerted for further observation. Atomic Energy Commission +still investigating. + +Sep.15, 1950...Notes from a conference between Canadian, Wilbert +Smith, and Dr. Robert Sarbacher, scientist reveals: Frank Sculleys' +book, "Behind the Flying Saucers" is true and substantially correct. +Flying Saucers do exist. The Government hasn't been able to duplicate +their performance. It's pretty certain they didn't originate on the +earth. The subject is the highest classified SECRET in the United +States; two points higher than H-bomb research. (see 9/23/47; 1/26/53) + +Oct. 6, 1950...CONFIDENTIAL MEMO, Headquarters, 5th Army Division: +John de Reneaux photographed the saucer which crashed near Aztec, N.M. +He said that "army officials" had attempted to take the photographs +away from him but that he had given them another roll of film. In a +further interview with the 5th Headquarters, de Reneaux denied any +knowledge of the Aztec crash. (see 3/25/48) + +Dec. 6, 1950...A second flying saucer crashes in El Indio-Guerrero +area. The saucer is recovered and taken to the AEC facility at Sandia, +N. M. 1950s, late....The so-called Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit +(IPU) was disestablished and all records were transferred to the Air +Force. (see 5/16/84) + +>>> Continued.. +X-NEWS: yvax.byu.edu alt.alien.visitors: 32338 +Path: +hamblin.math.byu.edu!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!news-feed-1.peachn +et.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!alberto +From: alberto@garnet.berkeley.edu () +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: UFO History I 3/5 +Date: 27 Apr 1994 15:11:18 GMT +Organization: University of California, Berkeley +Lines: 214 +Message-ID: <2plvam$md7@agate.berkeley.edu> +NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu + +Subject: * UFO History I 3/5 + + +Feb. 10, 1951..CONFIDENTIAL MEMO to Air Transport Squadron ONE: Lt. +Graham E. Bethune, U.S. Naval Reserve reported seeing a circular, +reddish-orange UFO flying at a speed in excess of 1000 mph, approx. +300 ft. diam. approaching and reversing direction within 5 miles of +his plane (Flight 125 from Keflavik, Iceland.) + +July 9, 1951...Pilot Lt. Kinmon sees and reports an UFO. (see 7/10/51) + +July 10, 1951..CLASSIFIED OSI Message from Robins AFB, Macon: UFO +sighted by Lt. George H. Kinmon Jr. on July 9, 1951. Description: Flat +on top and bottom and appeared from front view to have rounded edges, +slightly beveled. Color was white. When it dived from its position it +appeared circular with a clockwise spinning motion. Appeared to have a +fractured surface. No exhaust fumes or visible means of propulsion. At +an approx. distance from his plane the UFO appeared to be 10 to 15 +feet in diam. UFO caused air disturbance as it barrel-rolled under his +plane. His nose camera malfunctioned. + +Sep. 10,1951...CONFIDENTIAL Air Intell. REPORT: Maj. Ballard and Lt. +Rogers while flying at 20,000 ft. in a T-33 spotted a disc-shaped UFO +the size of an F-86 flying below them at 8000 ft. It was travelling +much faster than they were (900+ mph). It was steady in flight, with +no visible means of propulsion and shiny silver in color. The radar +station at Ft. Monmouth plotted the same UFO on radar at 1110 EDT +flying above 700 mph. + +Oct., 1951.....Project GRUDGE is on hold, Intelligence Officer Capt. +Edward J. Ruppelt has been assigned to reshape the study and field +mounting concern for the Pentagon.(see 12/48; 3/52) + +Oct. 21, 1951..Air Intelligence Report: Mr. (name withheld), a +civilian pilot of 14 years experience sighted a disk-like, highly +polished UFO which closed head on with his Navy aircraft at an +extremely high rate of speed near Battle Creek, MI. [Missed him, I +guess!] + +March, 1952....Capt. Edward J. Ruppelt recommends a new name for +Project Grudge, "Project Blue Book". (see 12/48; 10/51) + +Apr 25, 1952...UFO sighted flying over San Jose, CA, near Mt. Hamilton +by two scientists, Dr. W (biochemist; name withheld) and Dr. Y +(bacteriologist, name also withheld). Description of hovering disk: at +about 50 ft. it appeared to be 4 to 5 ft. in diam. The wobble of the +disk allowed them to estimateits' thickness to be approx. 1.5 ft. No +sound or means of propulsion observed. Later they observed a higher +flying silvery disc approx. 100 ft. in diam. Next to it more UFOs +appeared and bobbed around like boats in a stream. The objects +disappeared around 11:15 a.m. The two scientists decided not to report +the incident to Moffett Field for fear of ridicule. + +1952?..........SECRET SECURITY INFORMATION, CIA, (not dated): Walter +B. Smith, (MJ-3 replacement), Director of CIA notifies the +Psychological Strategy Board that "Flying Saucers" have implications +for psychological warfare as well as for intelligence and operations. +Suggests discussion on the possible offensive or defensive utilization +of these phenomena for psychological warfare purposes. (see 10/2/52) + +May 10, 1952...RESTRICTED USAF Intelligence Report signed by Col. +William L. Travis, Chief USAF Intelligence Division. stating: at 2030 +hours, in the city of Paphos, S.W. Cypress, a group of persons +including a noted British Scientist sighted an UFO which appeared to +rise sharply from the level of the sea and disappeared into the sky. +It was of a circular shape and emitted a luminous light. It appeared +to waver back and forth before fading out of sight directly overhead. + +June 4, 1952...RESTRICTED USAF Intelligence Report. Summer, +1952...While Operation INTERCEPT was in effect, two North American F- +86 OPERATION INTERCEPT Sabre fighters were vectored onto a target UFO. +The pilots had a broad daylight view of the UFO and fired tracer +bullets at it before it accelerated out of range. The officer who +fired the bullets was debriefed by his Colonel (name withheld) and the +base commander told Capt. Ruppelt to destroy the report (according to +Ruppelt himself).(see 7/52) + +July 19, 1952..Washington, D.C.: Long range "overfly" RADAR picked up +a formation of seven blips that were 15 miles south and not far from +Andrews AFB. Radar operator, Ed Nugent, thought that they were +military traffic until two of the targets suddenly accelerated at +fantastic speeds and disappeared off the radar scope. These strange +UFOs were monitored by Harry Barnes, Senior Controller, and +controllers Howard Cocklin and Joe Zacko. Also, Andrews AFB had also +been tracking the UFOs as they intruded over the White House which was +WASHINGTON Air Space restricted air space. The UFOs were traveling at +speeds of up to 7000 mph before stopping abruptly and then cruising +about in unconventional patterns. (see 7/26/52) + +July 20, 1952..CLASSIFIED SPOT INTELLIGENCE REPORT (dated 7/23/52): 3 +UFO spotted by 5 base personnel at Andrews AFB at 0030 hours EST. UFOs +reddish orange in color, moving erratically at an undetermined +altitude. Approach Control picked up another UFO at 0415 EST which was +on the radar scope for 30 seconds before fading. Lt. Hyatt, Operations +Officer during this period, said that he had been receiving "flying +saucer" reports that evening and the objects had been picked up by +radar. + +July 23, 1952..In a letter to a Mr. Louis A. Gardner, Albert Einstein +said with regards to UFOs, "those people have seen something. What +they saw I do not know and I am not curious to know." + +July 26, 1952..Washington, D.C.: Long range "overfly" RADAR picks more +blips, just one week after the previous invasion of restricted air +space over Washington, D.C. Capt. Ruppelt told Maj. Dewey Fournet to +get over to the airport in Washington. Fournet was a radar specialist +with Project HOLCOMBE and arrived at the airport with Al Chop, AF +Press Officer, just in time to see the UFO blips on the radar sets and +to hear ground-to-air conversations of the pilots of two F-94s +vectored towards the UFOs. + +July 28, 1952..Personal Minute from Prime Minister W.S. Churchil to +Secretary of xxxxxxx Air Ministry stating: What does all this stuff +about Flying Saucers amount to? What can it mean? What is the truth? +Let me have a report at your convenience. (see 8/9/52) + +July 29, 1952..SECRET, EYES ONLY MEMO to Deputy Director/Intelligence +from Ralph L. Clark, Acting Assistant Director of Scientific +Intelligence stating: In the past several weeks numerous UFOs have +been sighted visually and on RADAR. This office (CIA) has maintained a +continuing review of reputed sightings for the past three years and a +SPECIAL GROUP has been formed to review the sightings to date. O/CI +and O/SI will participate in this study and prepare a report on UFOs +by August 15, 1952 + +End of July....1952...SECRET MEMO to Director, CIA, from H. Marshall +Chadwell, Office of Scientific Intelligence stating: ATIC has set up a +worldwide reporting network for Flying Saucers and major Air Force +bases have been ordered to make INTERCEPTIONS of UFOs. Battello +Memorial Institute is to handle machine indexing of all official +reported sightings. From 1947 to date, there have been 1500 official +sightings with 250 of them in 1952 alone. Of the 1500, 28% remain +UNEXPLAINED. UFOs are of such importance that the matter should be +brought before the National Security Council. 9/19/76; 5/10/80; +5/19/86; 9/4/87) + +Aug. 1, 1952...CIA MEMO from acting Chief of Weapons and Equipment +Division: "It is strongly urged, however, that no indication of CIA +interest or concern reach the press or public." + +Aug. 9, 1952...Reply from Air Ministry, Whitehall, S.W. to W.S. +Churchill stating: All UFO sightings are either astronomical +phenomena, mistaken sightings of balloons, birds, etc., optical +illusions or hoaxes. The Americans have reached a similar +conclusion.(see 7/28/52) + +Aug. 16, 1952..CIA analysis report of a Vienna news article of a UFO +report from the Belgian Congo: Commander Pierre of Elisabethville +Airfield was sent out to intercept two Flying Saucers. They had a +diam. of 12 to 15 meters with a stationary central hub with visible +portholes and an extremely fast rotating outer disk that glowed as if +on fire. Color similar to aluminum. They emitted a loud whistling +sound which could be heard over his own engines. He estimated their +speed at over 1500 kilometers/hour. (see 7/52) + +Aug. 20, 1952..Memorandum for Director CIA: the DCI, after a briefing +by OSI on the subject of UFOs, directed the preparation of an NSCID +for submission to the Council stating the need for investigation and +directing agencies concerned to cooperate in such investigations. It +was decided that Dr. Whitman, chairman of P&DB, would investigate +undertaking R&D studies through Air Force agencies. Signed: H. +Marshall Chadwell. (see continuation of thisbriefing, 11/25/52). + +Aug. 23, 1952..CIA analysis report of an Athens news article of an UFO +landing in Communist Berlin, Germany: Former Mayor of Gleimershausen, +Oscar Linke and his 11 year old daughter, Gabriella, spotted a landed +Flying Saucer near the town of Hasselbach. The huge "frying pan" was +approx. 13 to 15 meters in diameter and had two rows of holes on its +periphery, about 30 centimeters in circumference. The space between +the two rows was about 0.45 meters. On top was a black conical object +about 3 meters high. Two men dressed in shiny metallic clothing were +standing outside the craft. Upon hearing my daughters voice the two +men retreated into the UFO which then began to rotate. As the UFO +began to spin the conical tower slid down into the UFO and the UFO +began to rise and rotate like a top. It seemed to be supported by the +conical tower that was now underneath it. (more details were included +in report, see 02/23/55) [See also the movie "Earth vs. the F.S."] + +Sep. 19, 1952..Air Ministry, London: A number of airmen and officers +of the R.A. F., Topcliffe, observed an UFO. As it descended it was +swinging in a pendular motion like a falling leaf. Pendulous motion +ceased and object began rotary motion about its own axis. Suddenly +accelerated at an incredible speed. + +(9/19/52, cont'd) It was not identifiable with any known aircraft and +acceleration was in excess of that of a shooting star! Craft was +silver in color and circular. + +Sep. 20, 1952..An UFO similar to the Topcliffe one (see 9/19/52) is +sighted over a U.S. Carrier ship out with the fleet between England +and Scandinavia. An American photographer doing a story of the fleet +exercise took pictures of the UFO which was ascertained not to have +been a balloon. The Navy never released the photos of the UFO. (see +9/19/52) + +Sep. 21, 1952..Six RAF jets on maneuvers over the North Sea saw a +"sphere" heading towards them, coming from the direction of the +English fleet. It was tracked on radar then disappeared and reappeared +behind them. One Meteor pilot attempted an intercept but was +completely outrun by the UFO. Capt. Ruppelt was later told by RAF +Intelligence that the incidents of the past three days caused the RAF +to officially recognize the UFO situation. (see 7/52; 6/24/53) + +Oct. 2, 1952...SECRET MEMO to Director CIA from H. Marshall Chadwell, +Assistant Director of Scientific Intelligence: ATIC is the only group +devoting appreciable effort to the study of UFOs. Flying Saucers pose +two elements of danger to the United States. The first involves mass +psychological considerations and the second concerns vulnerability of +the U.S. to air attack. Recommend that the DCI discuss this subject +with the Psychological Strategy Board. (see 11/25/52) + +>>> Continued.. +X-NEWS: yvax.byu.edu alt.alien.visitors: 32339 +Path: +hamblin.math.byu.edu!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!convex!cs.utexas.ed +u!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!alberto +From: alberto@garnet.berkeley.edu () +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: UFO History I 4/5 +Date: 27 Apr 1994 15:12:35 GMT +Organization: University of California, Berkeley +Lines: 223 +Message-ID: <2plvd3$mdg@agate.berkeley.edu> +NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu + +Subject: * UFO History I 4/5 + + +Oct. 27, 1952..Air Intelligence MEMO: "Some military officials are +seriously considering the possibility of (UFOs being) interplanetary +ships. + +Nov. 18, 1952..MAJESTIC-12 briefing document to President (elect) +Eisenhower from Admiral R. Hillenkoetter (MJ-1). + +Nov. 25, 1952..(cont'd briefing from 8/20/52): Memorandum for Director +CIA: Another meeting by A-2 and ATIC personnel was held on this date. +UFOs must have immediate attention. UFOs have been sighted at great +altitudes and at high speeds in the vicinity of major U.S. defense +installations and can NOT be attributed to natural phenomena or KNOWN +types of aerial vehicles. OSI is proceeding to establish an immediate +PRIORITY research and development on UFOs under the aegis of CANIS. +Signed: H. Marshall Chadwell. (see 8/10/52; 10/2/52; 11/25/52) + +Dec. 2, 1952...Statement by H. Marshall Chadwell, Assistant +Director of Scientific Intelligence, CIA: "The reports of (UFO) +incidents convince us that there is something going on that must have +immediate attention. (see 10/2/52; 11/25/52) + +1953...........Director of Project Blue Book, Capt. Ruppelt stated: +"Two RAF Intelligence Officers who were in the U.S. on a classified +mission brought six single-spaced typed pages of questions they and +their friends wanted answered regarding UFOs. (see 9/21/52) + +1953?..........Pilot (name withheld) stated, "a saucer crashed in a +desert area". He was sure that it was just inside the Arizona border. +He also saw the bodies first-hand at Wright-Patterson AFB. The crates +arrived at night by DC-7. Description of bodies: approx. 4 ft. high. +Resting un-shrouded on a special blanket on dry ice. Heads were +hairless, narrow, disproportionately large for their bodies. Skin had +brown tint. Open eyes, small mouth, indistinct nose, hands and feet. +Wore tight fitting, dark colored suites. One Alien appeared to be +female. One Alien had been alive at the crash sight but attempts to +save its' life with oxygen failed. + +Jan., 1953.....The ROBERTSON PANEL convenes, headed by Prof. H.P. +Robertson. He was chosen because of being renowned as a nuclear +physicist. Some of the persons involved with this panel were Capt. +Ruppelt, Dr. Allen Hynek, Prof. S. GOUDSMIT/ L. ALVAREZ Sam Goudsmit, +Prof. Luis Alvarez, Dr. Lloyd Berkner and Prof. Thornton Page. + +Jan. 26, 1953..The Dept. of Defense, Washington, D.C. states in a +letter to the Henry Holt & Co. that Maj. Donald Keyhoes' book on +"flying saucers" is accurate and that if the reported controlled +maneuvers of the saucers are accurate then the saucers may be from +another planet. Signed, Albert M. Chop, Air Force Press Desk. (see +9/15/50) + +May 20, 1953...Kingman, Ariz.: Dr. Ed Doll orders Fritz Werner to +report for special duty the next day. (Indian Springs AFB. see +5/21/53) + +May 21, 1953...Kingman, Ariz.: Fritz Werner (pseudonym), engineer at +Wright-Patterson AFB, assisted in the investigation of a crashed UFO. +It was constructed of an unfamiliar metal, similar to aluminum +[magnesium?]. It had impacted 20 inches into the sand without any +signs of structural damage. It was oval and 30 ft. in diam. An opened +hatchway was 3 1/2 ft. long and 1 1/2 ft. wide. Inside the craft were +2 swivel seats, oval cabin and lots of instrumentation and displays. A +tent pitched nearby contained the corpse of the pilot. It was approx. +4 ft. tall and had a brown complexion, two eyes, a small round mouth, +two nostrils [no nose?], and two ears. It wore a silvery metallic-like +suite and a skull cap of the same material. + +Summer, 1953...Saucer crash lands near Camp Polk, Louisiana. US Army +Pvt. H.J. (initials) under Sgt. R.S. (initials) in Company B ordered +to stay by the saucer until the ambulance and superior officers +arrive. Three Aliens walked away from the crash. One Alien was carried +on a stretcher. All aliens eventually died, taken to storage facility +near Washington D.C. Alien description: Large helmeted heads, tight +fitting suits, legs stiff when they walked, 3.5 to 4.0 feet tall, used +Alien language. + +June 24, 1953..USAF EMERGENCY Intelligence Report: Two jets out of +Quonset Point have had mid-air collision at 2130E with UFO. American +and Eastern Airlines pilots reported UFO. Jets fell in flames 15 miles +West of Quonset Point. (see 9/21/52) + +June 26, 1953..USAF Intelligence Report, EMERGENCY JEDUP JEDEN JEDFF +JEPHQ JEPRS 555. Distribution: OOP, OOP-CP, OAC, ARMY, NAVY, JCS, CIA, +NSA, Tech Intelligence Center Wright Patterson AFB. (see 06/24/53 for +details of report) + +July 19, 1953..CONFIDENTIAL Message to the Adjutant General, Wash. 25 +D.C.: An F-86 aircraft was observed in flight over the Oak Ridge +residential area by a writer and his wife. While observing the F-86 +through 6 power field glasses an UFO, black in color, moved out of a +high white cloud directly over the area where the F-86 had been +circling. The UFO began circling at a tremendous speed for at least 5 +minutes. It appeared at times to be cigar shaped and at other times to +be round in shape. No sound or visible means of propulsion was +observed from the UFO. It flew away at tremendous speed for 3 miles +where it was joined by 2 other UFOs into a 'V' formation and sped +away.(see 7/27/53) + +July 26, 1953..EMERGENCY message to Air Defence Command: CIRVIS 3346N +9632W sighted 7 UFOs hovering at altitude of 5 to 8 thousand feet near +Perrin Tower, TX. Visually observed by citizens of Denison and +Sherman, TX. The UFOs were grouped in a Z (Zebra) formation, then +circled to higher altitudes and faded from sight. Each UFO had one +bright red light on it. + +July 27, 1953..SECURITY INFORMATION, CONFIDENTIAL MESSAGE to Adjutant +General, Wash. 25 D.C. (see 7/19/53 ) + +Aug. 26, 1953..Regulation AFR 200-2 issued to Air Force personnel for +reporting UFOs. (see 8/12/54) PROCEDURES + +Nov. 2, 1953...Changes updated for UFO reporting. New Regulation AFR +200-2A. + +1953...........Project xxxxxx (name CENSURED) established by President +Eisenhower and renamed Project AQUARIUS (1960, 1968) + +Winter, 1953...Salisbury Plain, England: Flight Lt. C.G. Townsend- +Withers was flying an experimental Canberra aircraft at 55,000 ft. +when he picked up on the new experimental radar an UFO following his +plane. The science officer went up to the turret for a visual and +spotted a circular craft five miles behind them. They tried to outpace +the UFO by accelerating to 225 knots but it kept up with their plane. +Townsend-Withers initiated a wide sweeping turn and lost radar contact +with the UFO but came into direct visual on a collision course with +the UFO. Then the UFO flipped vertically in the air and climbed from +50 to 70 thousand feet, as quickly as you could say it. Description: +Round, thin disc with two tail fins at the rear, appearing metallic +and enormous. Leaving no vapor trail, wake or detectable sound, it +vanished within a couple of seconds up into the blue sky. + +Dec. 8, 1953...CIA Evaluation of the UFO situation: It was pleased to +note that the number of sightings had decreased dramatically, due, it +believed, to the success of its' implemented policies. Some sightings +still would have "possible scientific intelligence value". The CIA +concluded that the panel's (name?) recommendations might have been +interpreted by saucer believers as "debunking". + +Feb. 6, 1954...CONFIDENTIAL Air Force Staff MESSAGE: (DTG 061800Z) +>From Commander 19, A-Division, Carswell AFB, TX,: UFO sighted over +base. Had long fuselage, elliptical wings, stabilizer and no visible +means of propulsion. It was larger than a B-36, had no tail, left no +trail of exhaust and emitted no sound. Passed directly over tower at +an Alt. of 3000 to 4000 ft. and was visible to all persons on duty. +The UFO, when viewed on 10 mile scope gave a return of 1 inch. Copy of +this report sent to: CSAF, WASH DC; COMDR ADC, ENT AFB, COLO; COMDR +ATINTEL, CRT WPAFB, OHIO; COMDR 8TH AF, CARSWELL AFB, TEX. + +Feb. 20, 1954..Supposedly, some people think, President Eisenhower +went to see the captured saucers and recovered bodies at Hanger-18, +instead (according to his press agent) of being at the dentist. (see +4/12/54 + +Apr. 12, 1954..Between 6:30 and 7:15 PM a saucer crashed in the +desert, N.M. K.A. (initials) and Rescue Team 4 were sent from Roswell +AFB toinvestigate the crashed disc. The saucer was 40-50 ft. in +diameter. There were 4 dead Aliens scattered about the desert by the +saucer. Alien description (seen from helicopter at 30 ft. alt.): +Height was between 4.0 to 4.5 ft. Large proportioned heads, no +helmets. Tight fitting dark blue suite. Faces, under 'copter +spotlight, were light green with a luminous tint. The saucer was +stored in Hanger-18, Top Security. Hanger-18 was later expanded to 9 +stories high and 11 stories deep with heavy refrigeration equipment, +radar equip., and sophisticated computer equip. (see 2/10/54; 4/24/54; +3/7/55) + +Apr. 24, 1954..A saucer crashed at Bandelier, N.M., as reported by +K.A. (initials) of the Roswell, N.M. Rescue Team 4. (see 4/12/54) + +Aug. 12, 1954..EMERGENCY CIA MESSAGE: sighted Saucer hovering at 2000 +ft. above Maxwell AFB, Alabama. Dispatched local helicopter NBR +ARMY267 to investigate. Definitely NOT a star. Helicopters fuel low, +returned to base. In coming helicopter ARMY294 proceeded toward UFO +which then completely disappeared. Pilot of ARMY294 lost sight of it, +would be glad to be called upon to verify saucer light. Pilots of Army +helicopters were: R.T. Wade, 506th helicopter Co., U.S. Tarma, also of +the 506th, Ft. Genning, GA. + +Aug. 12, 1954..New updated reporting of UFOs. Regulation AFR 200-2, +(see Aug. 26, 1953), by order of N.F. Twining (MJ-4), Chief of Staff, +USAF. + +1954...........Project SIGMA established as part of Project xxxx (name +CENSURED). Became a separate project in 1976. + +June 29, 1954..A BOAC Strato Cruiser (British Airways) on a trans +Atlantic flight with Capt. James Howard in command was traveling at +260 knots at 19,000 ft. when the crew saw a large CIGAR shaped UFO +with six smaller UFOs flying close to it. Among the others to witness +these events were First Officer Lee Boyd and Navigator Capt. H. +McDonnell. After 15 minutes of observing the UFOs, Capt. Howard +radioed Goose Bay, Canada, for backup escort, upon which the smaller +UFOs entered the bigger Cigar shaped one which then shot away. Upon +landing, Howard and Boyd were debriefed by intelligence officers and +their flight logs were confiscated by USAF personnel. + +Jul. 14, 1954..MEMO to General Nathan F. Twining (MJ-4) requesting his +presence at an MAJESTIC-12 meeting with President Eisenhower on July +16. Jul. 16, 1954..SECRET meeting between Gen. Nathan Twining (MJ-4) +and President Eisenhower. + +Aug., 1954.....Statement by Air Chief Marshall Lord Dowding, head of +the RAF during WWII: "Of course the flying saucers are real! And, they +are inter planetary!" (see 9/23/47; 10/9/55) + +Oct. 14, 1954..North Weald Airfield, Essex, England: Flight Lt. Jimmy +Salandin took off in his Meteor jet at 4:15 pm and climbed up to +16,000 ft. When hewas over Southend, England, two circular UFOs shot +past him at 9 o'clock high. One UFO was silvery and the other gold in +color. A third UFO appeared ahead of him on a collision course. It had +a bun-shaped top, a flange like two saucers in the center and a bun +shaped dome underneath and was silvery in color. It flew close enough +to his jet to overlap his windshield. + +Feb. 23, 1955..Broadlands Archives Record: Sworn statement by Lord +Mountbatten and Frederick Briggs describing a Saucer that landed on +Lord Mountbattens property. + +>>> Continued.. + +X-NEWS: yvax.byu.edu alt.alien.visitors: 32340 +Path: +hamblin.math.byu.edu!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!news-feed-1.peachn +et.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!alberto +From: alberto@garnet.berkeley.edu () +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: UFO History I 5/5 +Date: 27 Apr 1994 15:13:41 GMT +Organization: University of California, Berkeley +Lines: 231 +Message-ID: <2plvf5$mdp@agate.berkeley.edu> +NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu + +Subject: * UFO History I 5/5 + + +(2/23/55, cont'd) It was shaped like a child's humming top, between 10 +to 30 ft. diameter. Looked like kitchen saucepan. Had cylindrical +column about the size of a man descending from the center. Had +portholes all around the middle, like a steamer boat. I noticed a man +standing on the end of the central column. He was dressed in a dark +suit of overalls, and wearing a close fitting hat or helmet. As the +Saucer powered up a bright blue light came from one of the portholes +(like a mercury-vapor lamp). A force knocked me over. The Flying +Saucer proceeded to rise and retract the central column. (see +08/23/52)[See movie "Earth vs. the F.S."] + +Mar. 7, 1955... K.A. (initials) from Rescue Team 4, Roswell AFB, N.M. +given a general discharge from the USAF because he told his Sergeant +aboutthe Top Secret recovery of a UFO on April 12, 1954. (see 4/12/54) + +July 12, 1955..Unusual UFOB report from Pepperrel AFB, Newfoundland. +UFO sighted by a tanker aircraft (KC 97) pilot and ground radar. +"Unusual" in that the pilot of the Archie 29 called direction changes +of the UFO to ground radar which correlated exactly with those painted +by the radar scope. This observation went on for 49 minutes. Signed: +Todos M. Odarenko. + +Oct. 9,1955....General Douglas McArthur states, "The nations of the +world will have to unite--for the next war will be an interplanetary +war. The nations of the Earth must someday make a common front against +attack by people from other planets." (see 8/54) + +Late 1956......Castle AFB, California: A.A. and J.R. (names withheld) +were flying F-86's near Modesto, CA, on alert duty due to civilian UFO +reports in a nearby town. Base instructed them to return because their +was an UFO near the control tower. With afterburners on they closed +rapidly on a luminous elliptical UFO that moved above and below cloud +cover at 10 to 12 thousand feet as if to elude them. The two pilots +played cat-and-mouse with the UFO until they ran low of fuel and +returned to base. Local citizens that witnessed these events were told +by the Air Force that the pilots had been chasing ducks or geese. + +Oct. 2, 1956...Trenton, NJ: Harry Sturdevant, a night watchman of some +20 years, said, "a red light in the sky" shot at him. This UFO had no +wings, fins or propulsion sounds, except for the sound of "escaping +steam". It was about 60 to 100 ft. in diam. and cigar shaped. The UFO +gave him "the greatest shock of my life". There was a nauseating smell +like sulfur and brimstone. He lost the sense of taste and smell and +couldn't swallow properly. + +(10/2/56, cont'd) He collapsed on the ground and was unable to move +for half an hour, after which he managed to drive to his home and call +for aid. Six weeks later, a New Jersey workmen's compensation referee +decided that Sturdevant should be paid for medical expenses incurred +for the injury done by the UFO. + +Aug. 31, 1957..In a letter about UFOs to a constituent, Senator Barry +Goldwater said, "I, frankly, feel there is a great deal to this." + +Oct. 4, 1957..."Sputnik I" was launched and obtained orbit by the +Russians. (see 11/12/57) + +Nov. 2, 1957...Levelland, TX: Multiple landings on roadways, E-M +(electro-magnetic) effects, etc. Sheriff Weir Clem was sent out to +search the roads as a result of earlier UFO reports and saw a reddish +oval crossing the road and illuminating the pavement. Ronald Martin +saw an UFO land in front of his truck and turn from red to bluish- +green at which time the truck's electrical system failed. It then +turned reddish again and took off. Within the next few hours an Army +Jeep Patrol at White Sands, N.M., reported an egg-shaped UFO that +descended to about 50 yards above a bunker used during the first A- +bomb explosion. This wave of sightings continued for 2-3 weeks. After +retirement in 1975, Sheriff W. Clem gave a more graphic description of +the UFO he saw: "The object was shaped like a huge football and had +bright white lights. No living human could believe how fast it +travelled. The thing was as bright as day. It lit up the whole area." +In an interview in 1977, Sheriff Clem said, "After the publicity of +UFOs over the next few days, the number of witnesses to them rose to +about a hundred people."(see 11/5/57) + +Nov. 5, 1957...A single investigator from Project Blue Book +headquarters arrived at Levelland, TX, and interviewed only two +persons who had stalled cars and reported that all the UFO activity in +Texas between Nov. 2-4 was the result of a "rather heavy electrical +storm...All witnesses saw the same streak of lightning...which +stimulated the populace into a high level of excitement....and +resulted in an inflation of stories by some witnesses." (see 11/2/57) + +Nov. 12, 1957..FBI STATUS REPORT: "Ever since the Russians release +'Sputnik' there has been a great increase in the number of flying +saucers and other UFOs reportedly seen by people all over the U.S." +[Angle: Artificial satellite spurs Alien interest in mankind. Other +Angle: Artificial satellite causes populace to go sky crazy.] (see +10/4/57; 8/15/60) + +May, 1958......Malstrom AFB, Montana: Just after midnight an UFO +approached the alert hanger where one guard was standing on duty. At +about 1000 ft. altitude. + +(May, 1958, cont'd) The UFO appeared as a round metallic looking +object (called a "Flying Saucer" by the guard). The base radar and FAA +radar picked up the UFO as it was apparently hovering over the alert +hanger and the atomic bomb storage nearby. The saucer then moved +slowly down the length of runway and then proceeded across town to the +Muni Airport at Great Falls and hovered over the National Guard +parking ramp for the F-89's and then flew off. + +Dec. 20, 1958..Dunellen, NJ: Patrolmen LeRoy A. Arboreen and B. Talada +while on patrol suddenly spotted a glowing red object which came +directly toward them at a phenomenal rate of speed from the West, +Increasing rapidly in size, then coming to an abrupt stop, it was +ellipsoid in shape and solid bright red while giving off a pulsating +glow. After hovering a few seconds it went straight up like a shot and +faded beyond the stars. Visibility: unlimited. Apr. 1, 1959...Orting, +WA: An Air Force C-118 transport plane with four passengers suddenly +radioed in "MAYDAY, we've been hit!" Col. R.E. Booth told reporters +that a mid-air collision had taken place at 8:19 p.m. APRG (Aerial +Phenomena Research Group) investigators determined that from 7:00 p.m. +onthrough the early evening several mysterious aerial explosions had +shaken the Seattle, WA, area. Several residents had reported seeing +mysterious UFOs from 20 miles north of the crash scene to about 8 +miles southeast of it. These sightings were confirmed by the Orting +Chief of Police and by Public Information Officer at McChord AFB. +Several persons told APRG investigator, R. Gribble, that as the C-118 +passed over their area it was followed by 2 parachute-shaped objects +and that the C-118 was missing its' tail assembly. Mr. and Mrs. Bill +Jones reported 3 or 4 parachute-shaped UFOs following the C-118 as it +passed over their home. Chief of Police, Fred Emard, told R. Gribble +that he would be glad to furnish information on the UFOs to APRG, but +changed his mind the next day after an interview with an Air Force +Colonel. "The Chief and other officials of Orting had been silenced," +Gribble reported. (see 9/29/59; 5/61) + +Sept.29,1959...Maj. R.O. Braswell, while flying an C-47 at 6500 ft. +alt., spotted an UFO. "It was colored like a large red fire and looked +like an atomic cloud", he stated. At about 5 degrees above my plane it +appeared massive and was at about 13000 ft. alt. The UFO appeared to +be about 1000 ft. thick (top to bottom). Billie Guyton of Centerville, +TX, also observed the UFO and said that he observed a smaller UFO +emerge from it. Another ground observer, Jackie J. Cox, schoolteacher, +saw a "bright light in the sky that spread to cover the entire sky." +W.S. Webb of Buffalo, N.Y., glanced out his bedroom window and saw a +ball of fire shooting through the sky, after which he heard a noise, +as if something was falling from the sky. The next day Braniff +Airways' Flight 542, carrying 28 passengers and 6 crew members, was +found shredded in a thousand pieces. Subsequent inquiry found that +there had been no fire or explosion aboard the jet before or after the +crash and that scorch marks found on the exterior windows, fuselage +and parted tail section showed signs of having been exposed to +tremendous exterior heat. Also the force causing the plane to come +down did not come from within the plane. Radar Operator, E.H. Tindale, +later told investigators that he had plotted an UFO twice on the night +Flight 542 crashed. Both plots of the UFO were in the area where the +wreckage of the airliner was found. The UFO was stationary both times +it was tracked. (see 4/1/59; 5/61) + +1959...........Project SIGMA meets with success and establishes +contact with Aliens. (see 4/15/64) + +(This History is continued in UFOHIST2.TXT)....... + + +Some sources of information: + +....."UFO CRASH RETRIEVALS:" series by Leonard H. +Stringfield + + A. Status Report ONE, c. + + B. Status Report TWO, "Amassing the Evidence", c.1980, pub. by + MUFON, Sequin, TX. + + C. Status Report THREE, "New Sources, New Data", c.1982,pub. by + Leonard Stringfield. + +............................................................ +REFERENCES:(A) ADDRESSES of AUTHORS, RESEARCHERS: + +1. UFO Photo Archives, P.O. Box 17206, Tucson, Arizona 85710,USA. + (B1-E, p.580) + +2. STEINMAN,William S., 15043 Rosalita Dr., La Mirada, Calif. 90638, + USA. + +3. CAUS, Citizens Against UFO Secrecy, 3518 Martha Custis Drive, + Alesandria, Virg. 22302, USA. Larry W. BRYANT, director, + Washington, D.C. Office. + +4. L/L Research, P.O. Box 5195, Louisville, Kentucky 40205, USA. + +5. STRINGFIELD, Leonard H., 4412 Grove Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45227, + USA. (B1-E, p.580) + +6. Flying Saucer Information Center, 7803 Ruanne Court, Pasadena, MD + 21122, USA. + +7. MUFON, Mutual UFO Network, 103 Oldtowne Rd., Seguin, TX 78155- + 4099. (B1-E, p.583) + +8. Just Cause, PO Box 218, Coventry, CT 06238 USA. + +9. APRO, 3910 E. Kleindale Road, Tucson, AZ 85712 USA. + +10. KEYHOE, Major Donald E., (USMC, Ret.)(now deceased) + +11. MOORE, William L., Publications & Research, 4219 W. Olive St., + Ste. 247, Burbank, CA 91505. (B1-E, p.580) + +12. FRIEDMAN, Stanton T., PO Box 2246, Berkeley, CA 94702. (B1-E, + p.583) + +13. BRAY, Arthur, PO Box 5528, Station-F, Ottawa, Ontario K2C 3M1. + (B1-E, p.566) + +14. MACCABEE, Bruce, PO Box 277, Mount Ranier, MD 20712. + +15. STEVENS, Wendelle C., 3224 So. Winona Circle, Tucson, AZ 85730. + (B4, p.168) + +16. McINTYRE, W.F., c/o MARCEN, 123 Olney-Sandy Spring Rd., Sandy + Spring, MD 20860. + +17. BECKLEY, Timothy G., c/o UFO Review, PO Box 753, New Brunswick, NJ + 08903. + +UFO HISTORY V2.09: Copyright 1988,1991,1992,1993 by PEA Research, Elk +Grove,CA. + +--- . + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2813.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2813.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6efb80a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2813.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,2341 @@ +SUBJECT: ASSORTED THINGS FROM BILL ENGLISH & OTHERS FILE: UFO2813 + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Coral Castle (8/100) +From: Michael Johnson +To : Bill English +Date: 03/08/91 14:34:57 + + +On 5 Mar 91 21:38:00 Bill English said to Peggy Noonan + >PN>the whole thing was built by one man working alone--he said + >PN>something about having found a secret) and I ask here + >PN>because some people who've told me about the place make + >a + >PN>UFO connection...power wands and all that. If you know + >PN>anything about it, I'd love to hear...Thanks. + > + > + >Peggy, + > + > As a kid living in Florida I and my family spent the + >day visiting the Coral Castle. It was probibly one of the most + >impressive place I have ever seen. With regard to the legends + >surrounding it...well, the guide did talk of it but I think + >that at the time I was most impressed with the gates that weighed + >several tons, but could be opened with just the touch of a + + I also grew up in Florida and have been to the Coral Castle many times...the +gates are constructed from old ford truck axles and the gates were hung and +THEN balanced with a chisel made of a leaf spring. + The huge slabs of coral were split from the rockbed with ford leaf springs +also and the ground is still exposed and shows the marks of the tools. He used +a tripod/lever assembly similar to an egyptian design to hoist the slabs to +their present position. The lunar/planetary symbols atop the walls had some +signifigance to the builder and are apparantly to be viewed from an elevated +rock chair set into the center of the garden. + + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Wierd Stuff... (9/100) +From: Bill English +To : Dan Brown +Date: 03/07/91 20:45:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-07-91 04:40> Dan Brown wrote: + +DB> I never say anything signifcant, but at least I do it +DB>with consistancy! ... +DB> +DB> I was trying to find out of akinesia was in anyway common +DB>in ufo related experiences. I started having (or at least +DB>noticing it) akinesia quite regularly after having a +DB>strange experience when I was six. I was just trying to +DB>find out if it was common, or related so that I could check +DB>it out as an anvenue of exploration... +DB> + +Dan, + + Now that I know what your talking about, it appears that yes, to a certa +in +degree something like what you described is common to many of the UFO Experience +s +that have been recorded. The most well known being that of Betty and Barney +Hill. If you are familiar with their story, they were apparently paralised when +the UFO interupted their journey. You will also note that in many cases the +victims cannot move until such time as the aliens either tell them to move or +somehow control their movement. + + I would be most interested in hearing more about your experience when +you were six years of age. Most abduction/contact cases it seems appear to begin +when the victim is of a very young age. If you wish to keep this slightly more +private, I invite you to call the UFINET BBS and talk to me there. + +Kind regards, +Bill English + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Saying nasties..... (10/100) +From: Bill English +To : John Powell +Date: 03/07/91 20:47:00 + + + I like your style.... + +Bill.. + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Colrado Springs area sigh (11/100) +From: Bill English +To : John Powell +Date: 03/07/91 20:49:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-05-91 20:18> John Powell wrote: + +JP>You just gave me an excellent idea! (And I don't mind +JP>doing the work if Jym won't mind the traffic...) +JP> +JP>If somebody is willing to type up a form letter(s), and +JP>post it here, I'll volunteer to be the caretaker of the +JP>letter(s) and reply to all who ask with a pre-addressed +JP>ready-to-print letter. +JP> +JP>Any takers out there on typing up a letter? +JP> +JP>What do you think Jym? (The traffic would only be the +JP>replies to direct questions or to those who seem +JP>specifically interested.) +JP> + + +John, If Jym doesn't feel that it's appropriate for the UFO echo then you can +use the UFINET Echo. + +Bill.. + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Old stuff! (12/100) +From: Bill English +To : Jim Sanders @ 995/113 +Date: 03/07/91 21:34:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-05-91 10:06> Jim Sanders @ 995/113 wrote: + +JS>Bil, +JS> +JS>I have just entered this conference. I did send you one +JS>message concerning a sighting in Northern California back +JS>in 1957 era... +JS> +JS>There are two other old incidents which have never been +JS>explained to my satisfaction. IE: + +Jim, nice to hear from you. As it happens I have a ton of old files from the +fifties that have all kinds of case reports in them.. + +JS>The Capt. Mantell P-51 sighting and chase of UFO out of +JS>Fort Knox, Ky. The investigation reported pilot hypoxia and +JS>crash as he was not carrying oxygen aboard. I have heard +JS>other reports that his crash residue was "hot" with +JS>radiation.. Any in depth on this old one. + +The Mantell case was one of the cases that APRO (Aerial Phenomenon Research +Organization) had originally investigated. I have copies of the original investi +gation +reports along with the offical publicity reports concerning Mantell's crash. + +According to what I have here, a UFO was sighted on radar and several planes +were scrambled to investigate, among them Captain Mantell. Mantell apparently +chased the UFO successfully to a point and at the same time climbed almost to +his aircrafts limit. According the the APRO report Mantell radioed that he was +at the limit and was about to break off the chase when it was later reported +by the other pilots that a beam of some type came from the UFO and grabbed his +aircraft pulling it along at incrediable speeds. The other aricraft lost sight +of it, however radar was able to track it for a while longer. Radio contact +was apparently lost the moment the beam struck. AT this point the report becomes +a little cloudy. Mantell's aircraft and his body were found shortly thereafter, +but there is no indication from the APRO report nor from the offical Air Force +release indicating that the wreakage was radio active. + +JS>Another was radar sigthing out of Selfridge AFB, MI.. They +JS>scrambled an F-89 to intercept... The F-89 was able to +JS>close and report "Had Joy" (radar contact) and the aircraft +JS>and crew were never seen again.. wreckage or any part... +JS> +JS>Are these two in your records ? ? ? +JS> +JS>Jim + +I don't seem to be able to find this one in the files, however there are several +similar reports of this nature. Among them are several reports from the White +Sand Missle Test Range here in New Mexico for that time period which tell of +several missles and of chase aircraft that were taken aboard UFOs while in fligh +t +and never seen again. One witness to such an accurance was my father, who was +among the elctronic tracking crew at White Sand at the time. + +Hope this answers some of your questions. + +Kind Regards, +Bill English + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Cow Blood (13/100) +From: Bill English +To : Curtiss Hahn +Date: 03/09/91 00:34:00 + + +In a message to John Feilke <03-06-91 18:38> Curtiss Hahn wrote: + +CH>As I understand it the Lear reports were made up bu John +CH>Lear to discredit UFO groups, is this correct ? + + +Curtis, no this isn't true. I have known John personally for quite sometime, +and although he's been known to pull a fast one occassionally in order to gauge +a reaction he very sincerely believes the material that he has officially report +ed +on. John and I reach an agreement some time back that I may not necessarily +agree with everything that he says, but I most certainly respect him. I might +add at this point also that John's material is John's research and work, and +not the work of others. I might also add that John most diffinently is not out +to discredit Ufology. In his own right John has made some of his own personal +scrafices for the work that he has done. + +Kind regards, +Bill English +UFINET + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Hoagland's Mars (14/100) +From: Bill English +To : Ron Bonds +Date: 03/09/91 00:36:00 + + +In a message to All <03-05-91 21:57> Ron Bonds wrote: + +RB> +RB>Has anyone seen the Video "Hoagland's Mars" that has the +RB>computerized graphic fly over of Cydonia? Is it worth +RB>$29.95?? + +Ron, I have the tape...it is if your interested in that particular topic. + +Bill.. + + + + + + +Subj: Mars (15/100) +From: Bill English +To : Michael Geggus +Date: 03/09/91 00:39:00 + + +In a message to Boyd Naron <03-07-91 16:29> Michael Geggus wrote: + +MG>Boyd, are there any pubilshed or GIF images of the Mars +MG>artifacts around. Reading further I am getting more and +MG>more interested... Mike + + +Mike, call the UFINET News BBS. LOog on and let me know that your there and +I will make the GIF files that I have available for you. + +kind regards, +Bill English + + + + + + +Subj: +From: Bill English, Dan Brown +To : Re: Wierd Stuff... +Date: 03/09/91 7:05:00 + + + > ... it appears that yes, to a certain degree something like what you + > described is common to many of the UFO Experiences that have been + > recorded. + + Ok, That's what I was wondering about. + > ...Betty and Barney Hill. If you are familiar with their story... + + I've heard of them, but I haven't ready their story. I saw a 'debunker' +movie about them long ago on late night tv, but the movie pretty much led +the viewer to believe that they were two eggs short of a dozen... Other +than that, I'm not familiar with them. + + > You will also note that in many cases the victims cannot move until + > such time as the aliens either tell them to move or somehow control + > their movement. + + At the onset of this last episode, I tried to fight against the akinesia +(paralysis) and was becomming successful in my attempt, but as soon as I +started making headway, it was like another wave of it hit me but this +tntact cases it seems appear + > to begin when the victim is of a very young age. + + Maybe I should type up something and send it your way. I'm feeling more at +ease about discussing my experiences publicly, but privately would be much nicer +.. + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Oddities (17/100) +From: Dan Brown +To : John Powell +Date: 03/09/91 11:11:00 + + +In a message to Dan Brown <03-07-91 19:59> John Powell wrote: + +> Let's see if I've got it: The left side, bright side, headboard side, +> would also be against a wall? The right side, dark side, foot-of-bed +> side, was where there might have been movement? + + Uh... Can you say that fast, three times? ... + + Well, I'm getting confused here! hehe... Let me try to explain it again. +Hopefully I'll do a better job than last time! + + I was laying across the bed at a minimal angle, about half way down the +bed. My head slightly toward the upper right side of the bed, feet toward +the lower right. (Laying with the left side of my head on the bed, facing +the headboard which is against the wall.) + + From that position, with my left eye, I could see the headboard, and half +of the wall to the right of the bed where my robe generally hangs. with the +right eye I could see a bit more since the bed isn't obstructing my view. +The right eye has better periphery vision due to my position. I wouldn't be +able to see the left side of the bed, since that would be the area behind +my head and out of my view. + + From the area behind my head, at the ledt side of the bed, is where I could +see something moving with my periphery vision. I have good periphery vision +as far as the angle of sight, but not in clearity, so I could not +make out a distinct form. I could, however, sense/feel movement, behind me +in much the same way that people are sensitive to heat, air movement, and awaren +ess +of a presence, but not by the actual hard sight of something. + +>> I've had similar experiences (without the eye stuff) happen with my wife +>> asleep in the room, but could never move, or speak to wake her. Very +>> seldom am I able to open either eye. +> +> How similar? How many times? + + Similar in all points except the eye part, and being in a different position +in the bed. On rare occassions, I find myself in a different place on the bed, +but very seldom. As far as how mant times, well, this has been a regular thing +since I was six years old. (about 29 years.) Up till about six months ago, this +was a monthly episode, and now an then, it would shift to weekly for a month, +then go back to monthly. + + +>> Just the sound of blood rushing through my ears/head. Sounded like +>> major rushing water. + +> One ear or both ears? Would you attribute this to temporarily heightened +> hearing or to a temporary increase in your blood pressure? Which seems to +> you to be more likely? + + Both ears... I would say that it is probably due to an increase of adrenal +secretion causing a temporary rise in BP... I'm not a medical doctor, so my +guess is only a guess. + +> Smell anything during or shortly after this happenned? + + Not that I remember this time. I have smelled kind of a wet paper smell crosse +d +with a "hemp rope" type of smell during similar episodes. I was more caught +up in the "eyes" thing than in smelling... + +> Did you notice your own shadow on the bed? Assuming there's a small +> distance between the headboard and the wall, could there have been a +> shadow there? Did you feel any external source of heat? + + No shadow that I could notice. The room was evenly lit in all directions. +My head was about two to two and a half feet from the headboard, so I might +not have seen a shadow if there was one... + + Heat? Yeah, but not hot heat... just the type of heat exchange you might expec +t +if someone was near you. + +> Are you sure your left eye was really opened? + + Yup. I switched back and forth from left to right a few times. My left eye +was open, and the room was bright. + +> What happenned after? + + After the episode with my eyes? or the entire thing... After the thing with +my eyes, I noticed something was movig behind me, and I stopped using my eyes, +shut them and stayed motionless. After that, I don't know what happened until +I apparently woke up with the "Hemispherical perception" thing on my mind, while +i was telling myself that I "hadn't been dreaming." + +> How did you feel physically? + + As best as I can remember, sore and awake. Like someone had been hitting +me with a two-by-four, but it went away rather quickly. + +> What did you do afterwards? + + I got up, turned on all of the lights in the house, sat in the front room +with a blanket over me and waited until I got the nerve to go back to bed! + +> Given your normal daily routine schedule, if you have one, how did this > +event effect it? + + See above... ... I have no regular schedule anymore. I generally +stay awake until I can't stay awake. Now and then when I don't feel +watched, and I get into a realitivly normal sleeping schedule. + +>> You mean there's still hope for us old, long haired, bearded Sysops with +>> glasses!? ... +> +> Well, I don't know about that Sysop part... + + You're no help! ... + + Take care, + + Dan + + + + + + +Subj: Re: Questions, Etc. (18/100) +From: Dan Brown +To : John Powell +Date: 03/09/91 11:14:00 + + +In a message to Dan Brown <03-07-91 20:43> John Powell wrote: + +> Sure. Is 916-446-7286 your BBS? I'll give it a call, probably during the +> daytime, and we'll work something out from there. How's that? + + Sounds good... or you can try (916)446-0347 [Voice]... I have an answering +machine hooked up, but If I'm here I always pick it up. (Just stay on long enoug +h +for me to get to the phone!) ... + + + + + + +Subj: Ufinet news bbs (19/100) +From: Michael Geggus +To : Bill English +Date: 03/09/91 07:21:00 + + +Is UFInet News BBS available throught the CONNECT USA network? Just wondering.. +.....I +did find one GIF which I uploaded here on City Lights BBS of the Face on Mars... +..Mike +Geggus + + + + + + + +Subj: Re: QUIET THOUGHTS (20/100) +From: Tessa Hebert +To : David Mayeux +Date: 03/09/91 02:30:00 + + +MSGID: 1:106/342 4d76e648 +>What bbs in Houston did you get this information on?? I have +>been looking for a good text file/Message base bbs on psycic +>phen. Do you have the #? +> + +Hi. The bbs is Gateway Houston: 723-3981, 723-2820, 723-3619. The sysop's +name is Donald Saxman. It's primarily a message board, but does have a Chat +feature & games. + +The New Age board has message bases for dreams, astrology, runes/tarot, parapsyc +hology, +mainstream religion, general new age, and my board (which is called Heaven's +Records). I also have 2 text files in the SHELF, which is located in the new +age discussion message base. + +Please do drop in for a visit. I think you'll like the board. (It's user-friend +ly +& you can use a pseudo.) + + + + + +Subj: BACK TO FUTURE (21/100) +From: Tessa Hebert +To : CHRIS POULSEN +Date: 03/09/91 02:35:00 + + +MSGID: 1:106/342 4d76e788 +>You are INSANE if you think Mattel developed a 'hoverboard' as +>featured +>in 'Back to the Future' +> + +Well, because my sanity is in question here, I will just have to find that artic +le +that I read in a magazine. I'll go back to the library & find it & give you +the name of the magazine & the date. + +I know it doesn't prove my sanity, but I was in the library the other day lookin +g +through their com + * Origin: The Bad Connection !!! (219)663-3107 Crown Point, IN (1:230/15) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#21, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: SKEPTIC? (22/100) +From: Allen Gage +To : All +Date: 03/09/91 20:08:55 + + +after reading some of the messages posted. I am still a skiptic but don't want +to be after a couple of nights ago. I live in the north +east and on tuesday theragrees with me about the $295... +but I do have your message and number archived, and will give you a call in +a couple of weeks it I get no takers at $295... + +Thanks again for your interest! + +Jeff Lindner, SYSOP, ECMUG - BBS of the Mac Users Group in Corvallis, OR (voice +- home) 503-928-6230 (voice - work) 503-753-9217 + + + + + + +Subj: CROP CIRCLES - REVISI (23/100) +From: John Morrison +To : Richard Bean +Date: 03/09/91 05:54:36 + + +In a message to John Morrison <06 Mar 91 10:02:00> Richard Bean wrote: + + RB> In regard to the Rainbow echo, I haven't the foggiest notion. Only + RB> the sysop knows for sure. I do not really understand just what echoes + RB> are and how they get around. We do get lots of postings on the UFO + RB> network from places all over North America. + + Yeah, we do to. That's why I asked, because some of the boards only carry +the UFO echo and you may even be getting the stuff from here from somebody else +besides us. Anyway, I was trying to find a general discussion echo that travels +between here and Irving (area) and all I have found so far is the UFO echo and +I don't want to clutter it up with stuff not pertaining, you know. Thanks for +the info. + +-John + + +--- [Norton] via Quickpoint XRS 3.2 (286) + * Origin: Truth Seeker, Music Lover - Ft. Smith, AR (Quick 1:19/19.14) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#23, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: question (24/100) +From: Joan Rodenbaugh +To : Tessa Hebert +Date: 03/09/91 10:49:26 + + +In a message of , Tessa Hebert (1:106/9996) writes: + + TH> Hi, Joan. I'm interested in discussing some of the more + TH> metaphysical aspects of the UFO's too. I don't understand why we + TH> can't do so on this echo. I think especially since Whitley + TH> Streiber's books have come out that a lot of people are ready to + TH> talk about the "astral plane" stuff involved with the UFO's. It + TH> puts us in the weird position of talking about UFO's on new-age + TH> bases, where we'll probably be told to go talk about UFO's on the + TH> UFO base. (?) + TH> + +Hi Tessa, my feelings exactly! Why limit the UFO experience when it is so multi- +faceted? +I know from personal experience that some of these beings are from "other planes +" +of existance. I guess it's hard enough for some people to swallow the fact that +there are UFO's at all, not to mention UFO's from outside of our physical univer +se. +I think Jym will let us know if we stray too far away from topic. I think he +would rather see discussions on the other planes taken to the meta echos unless +it has a direct link to the UFO experience. I just don't know how to avoid cross +ing +the line here. + +Regards, + +Joan + +--- msged 2.07 + * Origin: Joan's Point! (1:128/68.3) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#24, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: CROP CIRCLES (25/100) +From: Richard Bean +To : John Powell +Date: 03/09/91 08:50:27 + + +The circles are points where a form of energy is being transferred from this +reality to another (more advanced) one. They cannot resist a clean, blank slate +any more than we can and have been using the whorls to create more and more +elaborate heiroglyphs. At least one of those depicts the relationship between +earth and heaven and God. The energy is called Forfe and is created unknowingly +by humans, just as bees produce honey. It is the energy food of the Gods....and +spirits. +--- TBBS v2.1/NM + * Origin: *Chrysalis* Multi-User (214) 349-9397 Dallas, Tx (124/4214) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#25, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Clear Intent (26/100) +From: William Ivey +To : Bill English +Date: 03/09/91 23:56:00 + + +>Unfortunately you won't find that for the most part in the supermarket +>rags. + +A science fiction writer once told me that he was contacted once by the +most famous of "supermarket rags" soliciting outlandish scenarios from +him. They said if he'd write it, they'd find someone who'd swear to +god it had actually happened to them. :-) -Wm +--- FiFo V2.1l + * Origin: Twilight Zone BBS 407-831-1613 (1:363/112) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#26, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Oddities (27/100) +From: William Ivey +To : John Powell +Date: 03/09/91 23:56:00 + + +>I bet the T-shirts at the vendor kiosks are great though... + +"I Rolled Down/Up Spook Hill!" ? :-) + +Incidently, the "explanation" that my mother got years and years ago was +that a pirate was buried there and he didn't like people driving on his +body so he'd push you off. :-) (Pirates are Florida's stock in trade, +of course.) -Wm +--- FiFo V2.1l + * Origin: Twilight Zone BBS 407-831-1613 (1:363/112) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#27, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Cow Blood (28/100) +From: William Ivey +To : Curtiss Hahn +Date: 03/09/91 23:57:00 + + +>If the search for subsitute blood was going on for some time, + +It has been. In fact there ARE several blood substitutes on the +market (chloroflourocarbons, for example) but they all have shortcomings +of one kind or another (there was an article in either Science News or +Scientific American on the subject a year or two back). Obviously, a +substitute derived from real mammalian blood is a logical direction +for research to take.-Wm +--- FiFo V2.1l + * Origin: Twilight Zone BBS 407-831-1613 (1:363/112) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#28, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: SIGHTINGS (29/100) +From: William Ivey +To : Chris Poulsen +Date: 03/09/91 23:58:00 + + +>are there any physicists out there who have any theory what force +>would cause a car to 'play dead' without any permanent damage? + +Well, these aren't forces, but they can shut down a car yet leave it +apparently unharmed and startable after a few minutes. + +Vapor lock. As the engine cools, the fuel vapor will condense and allow +the car to start. In this case, the starter will still work. + +Battery damage. There are several places in the batter/electrical +system where a temporary loose connection can occur. Like vapor lock, +this can be temperature related and self correcting. + +Voltage regulator. An electromechanical voltage regulator can have a +sticky contact plate. Repeated attempts at starting might jog it loose. + +Starter solenoid and relay. This would allow headlights, etc. to work, +but would keep the car from starting. + +Fuel pump. Can cause surging and eventual stopping. After several +minutes the car can restart and act as if nothing is wrong (for +awhile). This one actually happened to me on I-10 in west Texas one +night - the pump finally failed over 1000 miles later. + +More mundane than UFOs, but you've got to rule these and a few others +out first.-Wm +--- FiFo V2.1l + * Origin: Twilight Zone BBS 407-831-1613 (1:363/112) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#29, Replies=2, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Oddities (30/100) +From: William Ivey +To : Dan Brown +Date: 03/10/91 12:00:00 + + +>The room just seem to be lit up all over. I couldn't see any shadows +>like you'd see if someone cam in and turned the light on. It was a +>uniform light. + +The more you describe this, the more familiar it sounds. Beaucoup de +deja vu! The light was even as though the room were lit by lots of +flourescent tubes, right? (The brain as image processor, eh? :-) + +One of the strangest versions of this that I had was lying in bed +watching the ceiling of my room open up to reveal a huge, cavernous +space filled with H.R. Geiger-style machines. The blend of reality +and dream was flawless - I could see the hinges on the ceiling +sections. + +The prettiest version was "waking" up to see a fairy-like creature +sitting on the edge of my reading lamp - lovely butterfly-style +wings. As I came more awake, she faded out smoothely. Cute! :-) + +There were several others over a period of a couple of years, but +not recently. BTW, I tend to dream vividly with solid plots and +characterizations, I don't know if that has any bearing on it - +do you have vivid dreams?-Wm +--- FiFo V2.1l + * Origin: Twilight Zone BBS 407-831-1613 (1:363/112) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#30, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Group Insanity Or Contagious Insanity (31/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Peggy Noonan +Date: 03/09/91 21:38:02 + + +REPLY: 1:104/602 4d75b7dc + > BTW, did you see the CIS message asking for sources for + > GIF pix of UFOs and info on area 51 or S-4 (I don't know what + > S-4 is)? It was an inquiry from #76050,2657. + I missed it. Lots of info can be gained from recent issues of UFO Magazine, +in which there was an article on Bob Lazar. + S-4 is supposedly one of the supersecret areas of Nellis AFB test range in +which the Air Force is flying saucers. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#31, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Hoagland's Mars (32/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Ron Bonds +Date: 03/09/91 21:52:03 + + +REPLY: 1:133/405 3295ee52 + > Has anyone seen the Video "Hoagland's Mars" that has the + > computerized graphic fly over of Cydonia? Is it worth $29.95?? + + Where can I get it? + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#32, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Crotans ? (33/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Curtiss Hahn +Date: 03/09/91 21:53:04 + + +REPLY: 1:106/1999@fidonet 1665a18e + > I don't remember the exact word found on the pole but it was + > almost the same as the name of a local indian tribe that just + > happened to be hostile. + + Croatan. + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#33, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Old stuff! (34/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Jim Sanders +Date: 03/09/91 22:04:05 + + + > The Capt. Mantell P-51 sighting and chase of UFO out of Fort + > Knox, Ky. + + I've also read that the wreckage was riddles with lots of small holes. No +idea if that's true. + + > Another was radar sigthing out of Selfridge AFB, MI.. They + > scrambled an F-89 to intercept... The F-89 was able to close and + > report "Had Joy" (radar contact) and the aircraft and crew were + > never seen again.. wreckage or any part... + + Don't know about that one. Here's a similar incident. + Sometime in late 1989 (I think), literally thousands of people saw a huge +triangular ufo cross the island of Puerto Rico. At some point, a large number +of people saw two F-14s orbiting the object. + The F-14s, one by one, flew inside and never came back out. + Jorge Martin will be speaking about that incident at the MUFON Symposium in +Chicago. I've never seen the story published. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#34, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Off-line readers (35/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Jym Fox +Date: 03/09/91 22:06:06 + + +REPLY: 1:370/530 4d72a72c + > Peggy,see if you can get this sysop to use XRS or Silver Express + > and help you set it up. You can then reply to messages at your + > leasure off-line. + + I've suggested that. I think Bryon's running it, if Peggy can get the echos +she wants there. + Unfortunately, my mail processor won't cooperate with it. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#35, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Gov. (36/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Bill English +Date: 03/09/91 22:09:07 + + + > However! It isn't just the flying wing configuaration + > that is part of the Stealth technology as I understand it, but + > rather it's construction.. + + + You got it. A wing is more stealthy than conventional design, but the real +key to stealth is materials and coatings. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#36, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Congress (37/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Bill English +Date: 03/09/91 22:13:08 + + + > No this is not true. Carter made the comment at one time that he + > has seen a UFO and that'a all.. + + I vaguely recall Carter saying that he'd release info, but he didn't make +any big deal about it. I think it came back to haunt him as soon as he said +it. + The MUFON investigation conclusion was that Carter and the others had been +watching Venus. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#37, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Crop circles (38/100) +From: John Hicks +To : John Powell +Date: 03/09/91 22:16:09 + + +REPLY: 1:19/19.19 27d441d9 + Bruce Maccabee has suggested that we call the formations "agriglyphs," in +the same way that rock carvings are petroglyphs. Sounds good to me. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#38, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: New to this... (39/100) +From: John Hicks +To : John Moore +Date: 03/09/91 22:23:10 + + + > + > Hello, I was scanning through the echos and found this + > one .. but at the risk of sounding naive.. I dont want to jump + > in to a converation and then reallizing that I was in over my + > head.. + + A few books. The UFO Casebook, by Kevin Randle, will give you a good overview +.. +Clear Intent, by Fawcett and Greenwood, on purported government coverups. Intrud +ers, +by Budd Hopkins, on the abduction phenomenon. Confrontations, by Jacques Vallee, +for the...opinion from left field, but makes about as much sense than anything +else. + The Gulf Breeze Sightings, by Ed and Frances Walters, is the current bone +of contention for argumentive types. Those will get you started. + Periodicals I'd suggest are the MUFON Journal and UFO Magazine. Don't waste +your money on UFO Universe. + + No comments from the peanut gallery now..... ;-) + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#39, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: New to this... (40/100) +From: John Hicks +To : John Moore +Date: 03/09/91 22:25:11 + + + Also almost essential to keeping current is the UFO Newsclipping Service. +It's worth every cent. Ads for the service are in the mags. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#40, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Boston- March 6 1991- 2:55 am (41/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Chris Kane +Date: 03/09/91 22:27:12 + + + > I dont have THE scoop on this, but here's the lowdown.. + + This sounds like it's connected to the "meteor" sightings. I saw a quoted +AP report in which airline pilots reported to the FAA that the "meteor" was +hovering over NYC, and LIUFON has a report of a similar incident on Long Island. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#41, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: cows blood for human use (42/100) +From: John Hicks +To : John Powell +Date: 03/09/91 22:31:13 + + +REPLY: 1:19/19.19 27d58731 + > Somehow I don't think the Mary Lou's, Peggy Sue's and Billy + > Bob's of the world are anywhere near prepared... + + I think you're absolutely right. I've known intelligent adults who haven't +read a book or newspaper, or even listened to TV news in *years*. + It's very difficult to me to understand how they can be so totally unintereste +d +in anything but their own little world. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#42, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: RE: PHENOMENA (PART I) (43/100) +From: Scott Ecker +To : William Ivey +Date: 03/09/91 22:19:38 + + + SE>Contagious insanity is "not uncommon"?!? + + > Nope. There are countless variations on the theme... + +Disregarding the term "insanity", I understand more clearly your suggestion. + + > Anxiety, fear and stress can easily be generated internally for many + > reasons... + +True, but without individual case study, has no generalized bearing. + + > - the need to create something special in one's life is not outside + > the realm of possibility. Nor is the creation of a totally imaginary + > past event to justify a current but irrational stress response + > unknown. + +But herein lies one very tremendous problem: The imagery. Why are there no +Ewoks, Storm-troopers, E.T.s, Klingons, Yodas, and the other thousands of +prevelent alien archetypes? Why no cute, friendly beings as depicted in +_Close Encounters_? Where are the lightsabers, X-Wing fighers, Enterprises, +laser guns, and so many of the other heavily reinforced images? If the +unconcious mind were to concoct some fantastic episode of alien abduction to +bring feelings of specialness or to "justify an irrational stress response", +surely the doctrines of _Star Trek_ would hold more ground than the +relatively unknown images of floating through windows, sterile white rooms, +strange tables, exacting medical proceedures, bizarre (and often repeated) +instruments, little gray men, and so on. The arguement "but there have been +so many books, and television programs about abductions" could be offered, +but judging from my own conversations with friends and aquaintances, I doubt +the average person knows much, if anything, about the experience, and +certainly not the finer aspects. + + SE>However, in the context of abduction experiences, there is no proven, + SE>evidence-supported mundane theory of solution, + + > On the contrary, there are usually alternate explanations. For + > example, in the case of Betty Hill, her psychologist maintained + > that her experience was based on elaborated fantasies that were + > probably the result of sublimated stress in her life. + +There was surely a great ammount of stress for the Hills, being part of an +interracial marriage back in that period of time. But to rely solely upon +internally-generated theory is to ignore the physical elements involved in +the Hill abduction claim (spots on the car, stopped watches, etc.). + +Dr. Simon's opinion likely reflected a conservative view, for I doubt that a +psychiatrist who valued his reputation and career would advocate the +abduction of humans by extraterrestial entities based upon the meager amount +of information available at that time. He would have been laughed right out +into the street by his peers. And as you must know, psychology is home to +numerous differing theories and stances, so the opinion of one individual +cannot totally refute (or substantiate for that matter) the validity of the +Hill's claims. + +(continued next message...) + +--- TMail v1.17 + * Origin: West Coast Pyro Board (209 661-5355) (1:205/45) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#43, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: RE: PHENOMENA (PART II) (44/100) +From: Scott Ecker +To : William Ivey +Date: 03/09/91 22:20:38 + + + > The child who is beaten, contrary to what you seem to think, often + > seeks to administer violence as an adult - they do not fear violence, + > per se. This is such a well known connection I'm surprised you don't + > seem to be aware of it. + +My attempt to illustrate an external stimulus-fear response was rather poor, +I concede, however, you should understand the idea I suggest. A clearer +example might be this: On several occasions in my youth, about age five or +six, I witnessed (or at least *thought* I witnessed) a small, semicircular, +red colored object eminating from the window sill in my bedroom at night, and +I can guarantee you that the resulting fear had nothing whatsoever to do with +thrill-seeking, nor any internal stresses, nor needs of any kind. + + SE>And the UFO abductee, who has been exposed to some form of trauma (be + SE>it physical or phychological), + + > No doubt tre is a trauma in many cases, but it need not be assumed to + > be an abduction by aliens even when that is what is claimed by the + > person involved. + +Should we assume then, given an apparently normal, well adjusted person +claiming such an experience, that there is nothing to worry about; nothing +which warrants investigation or further scrutiny beyond simply saying +"imaginary experience" and moving right along? + + SE>Your statement about fear is much to general, and does not account for + SE>many physiological effects (scars, rashes, bloody noses, etc.) + + > Not directly, but as part of a total psychological picture, it does. + > Rashes, bloody noses, etc. can be stress-induced... + +See the previous arguement concerning the availability of abduction imagery. + + > ...and scars, in the absence of other convincing evidence, are + > ambiguous. (I have a strange scar on my hand at the moment. I don't + > know how it got there - could have been aliens, I suppose, but since + > I first noticed it some time after repairing a fence, the more + +The scars to which I refer are anything but ambiguous, and are, quite to the +contrary, of very precise design. One of the more common--a round scoop-like +mark appearing on the thigh or calf--seems, to me, more than coincidental +when found so often upon abduction claimants. So far as "in the abscence of +other convincing evidence," I disagree wholeheartedly, and would refer you to +_Missing Time_, _Intruders_, _The Octover Scenario_, _Confrontations_, etc. +for further assistance. + +Best Regards, + +Scott + +--- TMail v1.17 + * Origin: West Coast Pyro Board (209 661-5355) (1:205/45) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#44, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Back To Future (45/100) +From: Daniel Osborn +To : Tessa Hebert +Date: 03/10/91 08:37:00 + + + > Okay, I'll get back to you too as soon as I find the magazine + > article about the hoverboard being a toy created by Mattel but not + > marketed because of the danger. + +As a joke the producer of the film said, in a promotional "behind the scenes +interview" that the board was real and that it had to be taken off the market +because it was too dangerous. I saw the promo and said to my wife at the time +that his demeanor was such that people were going to take him seriously. IT +WAS ONLY A JOKE!!! He said several other things that made it obvious that he +was joking. Don't be so gullible, it is WORSE than being insane! :-) + +--- FD 2.00 + * Origin: The Emerald City-Westminster, CO (1:104/214) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#45, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Stealth (46/100) +From: Bill English +To : William Ivey +Date: 03/09/91 02:01:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-06-91 23:33> William Ivey wrote: + +WI>You just weren't paying attention. There's nothing +WI>radically new in the +WI>stealth planes, it's all based on materials and techniques +WI>that have +WI>long, and well publicized histories. The only really "new" +WI>thing is +WI>bringing them all together into a single airframe (most of +WI>the +WI>technology appears discretely in other fighters, both US +WI>and foreign). +WI>(In fact, you can buy some of it at your local hobby +ATZ + +OK +ATH + +OK +Read: (1-100), Message#55, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? :46 + +Subj: Re: Stealth (46/100) +From: Bill English +To : William Ivey +Date: 03/09/91 02:01:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-06-91 23:33> William Ivey wrote: + +WI>You just weren't paying attention. There's nothing +WI>radically new in the +WI>stealth planes, it's all based on materials and techniques +WI>that have +WI>long, and well publicized histories. The only really "new" +WI>thing is +WI>bringing them all together into a single airframe (most of +WI>the +WI>technology appears discretely in other fighters, both US +WI>and foreign). +WI>(In fact, you can buy some of it at your local hobby +WI>shop!)-Wm + +If your refering to the honeycomb construction then your correct, however as +far as I know there still wasn't any real research with regard to bringing it +all together. Of course you may be right and I might not have been paying attent +ion. +But then I thought perhaps I was...unless of course I was in the bathroom during +that particular class... + +Kind regards, +Bill English + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#46, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Interesting! (47/100) +From: Bill English +To : Dale Anderson +Date: 03/09/91 02:02:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-06-91 08:32> Dale Anderson wrote: + +DA> BE> General Markov's statements to the press. Additionally +DA>I also have +DA> +DA> BE> world . I might add that General Markov is the +DA>Russian Air +DA> BE> Force Aor Defence Minister. +DA> +DA>Bill, +DA> Are these computer files and are they available for +DA>download? Thanks much. + +Not yet, I am still trying to scrap the money together for a hand scanner, but +they can be in short order... + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#47, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Far Journeys (48/100) +From: Bill English +To : Dale Anderson +Date: 03/09/91 02:04:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-06-91 23:00> Dale Anderson wrote: + +DA>Whitley Strieber mentions it in an interview with the +DA>author of +DA>'Report On Communion'. It is based on what he calls the +DA>'neoteny' concept. + + +Interesting. Whitley's material paralells alot of other material as well. MOst +notiable among these is tyhe Christa Tilton Case. + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#48, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: phili. exper (49/100) +From: Bill English +To : Gus Giudici +Date: 03/09/91 02:19:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-07-91 20:28> Gus Giudici wrote: + +GG> Hi Bill, +GG> Well,ya know what Sgt.Friday sez,I'm for that. +GG>However.it's interestting that you still give Moore his due +GG>for those two books,do you belive that stuff at the end of +GG>Philla. Experi. about Franklin Reno? It seems to me if we +GG>accept that as truth,then Moore solved the mystery and +GG>anything else is just goverment suppresion of the facts. + +I'll give credit where it is due. Especially if someone did a good job. As for +Franklin Reno, well...to be honest with you I haven't given it much thought +since my priorities have been in other areas. + +GG> By the way,do you know if there is a hard copy +GG>of Moore's presentation in Las Veagas,I understand that's +GG>when and were he came out with the disinformation info. +GG> +GG>(sorry if this is all old news Bill,but I've never had the +GG> oppertunity to ask these questions.) + +Yes there is a hard copy of Bill's speech at the 89 MUFON conference and I happe +n +to have one here. Unfortunately it is copyrighted material and I cannot place +it on the system for download. I would suggest that you contact Bill at his +office in LA and order one. I'll have to dig into my files and get the address +for you, but I will post it. + +GG> I had read that APRO had a taped interview with Allende, +GG>do you know if it's available? + + +I don't know if there is still a copy of the tape available. All of the APRO +files were placed in storage when Coral Lorenzen passed away and as I understand +it they suffered a great deal of damage. The International Center for UFO Studie +s +in Scottdale, Az has managed to get those files and have been in the process +of restoring what they can for public access. I'll try and find their address +and number for you and post that also. + +GG> Hynek could do no wrong,Hynek is GOD! +GG> (or with God as the case may be.) +GG> (just a personel observation,nuff said) + +None of us are gods or should be even compaired as such. Although I disagreed +with Hynek, I did and still do respect him and what he did in later life. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#49, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: phili. exper (50/100) +From: Bill English +To : Gus Giudici +Date: 03/09/91 02:22:00 + + + continued from last message: + +I didn't mean to end the last message so abruptly, but I hit the wrong keys...it +'s +late + +GG> Thanks for the info on MUFON and the sources for current +GG>literature,and I'll be sending out that letter to UFINET +GG>shortly.Once agin,I really do apreciate your replies,before +GG>I learned how to crank up this old XT,I didn't know there +GG>were so many folks out there to converse with on this +GG>subject. +GG> + +It's my pleasure to be able to help any and all who want to know. For those +just learning the in's and out's, none of this is old information. And yes there +are a lot of us out here... + +Take care, +Bill English + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#50, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Wierd Stuff... (51/100) +From: Bill English +To : Jym Fox +Date: 03/09/91 02:25:00 + + +In a message to Dan Brown <03-05-91 21:09> Jym Fox wrote: + +JF>DB>Sometimes in +JF>DB>> this business you get caught with your pants down +JF>around your ankles and +JF>DB>> you seem to have caught me.. +JF>DB> +JF>DB> What a picture that conjures up! Hehe... +JF>DB> +JF> +JF>I don't know Dan....it's sorta like I always picture Bill +JF>. +JF> +JF> Jym + + +Jym, This may be the wrong echo for this comment...But God will get you for +that ! + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#51, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Far Journeys (52/100) +From: Bill English +To : Jym Fox +Date: 03/09/91 02:26:00 + + +In a message to Wood Mage <03-06-91 14:35> Jym Fox wrote: + +JF>James can show you which echos are great for the Astral +JF>Planes. There are some NEW echos comming over to us on +JF>FidoNet fronm the PODS network which deal with just this +JF>subject..... +JF> Jym +JF>ps....This echo is NEVER safe . + + +Ain't that the truth... + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#52, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Bagdhad UFO's (53/100) +From: Bill English +To : Steve Arringdale +Date: 03/09/91 02:29:00 + + +In a message to John Hrusovszky <03-06-91 14:20> Steve Arringdale wrote: + +SA>Well, although the message wasn't directed this way, I'm +SA>going to make a short reply... Near as I can tell, there +SA>were at least two confirmed sightings over bagdhad in the +SA>first day or two of the air war. Peter Arnett and the two +SA>other CNN reporters saw two objects. One of which they +SA>identified as some form of helicopter, yet it made +SA>absolutely no noise. Now, it seems funny to me that they +SA>could ID the air-craft, at night, during all the combat, +SA>yet still hear no noise coming from it. THe second one flew +SA>directly over the Al Rashid hotel and "Lit up the entire +SA>sky" to quote one of the reporters. This air-craft also +SA>made no noise at all.. I believe those were the UFO's that +SA>were reffered to.. any other ones, I don't know about, but +SA>these two sightings were reported live before the Iraqi +SA>military began censoring the reports.... Isn;t it +SA>interesting what you hear when reporters are allowed to +SA>give the public the 'play by play' of whats going on? +SA> + + +Steve, if you can get the UFINET Echo read the article from the "Weekly World +Spews" that I placed in there. It's entertaining to say the least.. + +Bill English + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#53, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: KECKSBURG UFO (54/100) +From: Bill English +To : Kirk Shorting +Date: 03/10/91 00:39:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-08-91 10:25> Kirk Shorting wrote: + +KS> Thanks Bill, but I don;t have downloading capability at +KS>the moment. My education will have to wait. +KS> Later,.... +KS> + +No p[roblem Kirk. When your able just call the UFINET system and let me know +your there... + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#54, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Wierd Stuff... (55/100) +From: Bill English +To : Dan Brown +Date: 03/10/91 00:41:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-09-91 07:05> Dan Brown wrote: + +DB> Maybe I should type up something and send it your way. +DB>I'm feeling more at ease about discussing my experiences +DB>publicly, but privately would be much nicer. + +Dan, that would be most satisfactory. Anything that you write or say will of +course be kept in the strictest confidence. + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#55, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: That damn Cooper again. (56/100) +From: Bill English +To : Harrison Hopper +Date: 03/10/91 00:43:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-05-91 21:52> Harrison Hopper wrote: + +HH> Read what Cannon has to say about Cooper in letters to +HH>the editor in the latest MUFON Journal. You'll like it. +HH> +HH> +HH> :::hop +HH> + +I am supposed to be a member of MUFON but I have yet gotten my membership card +or a copy of the journal. Perhaps you can up load the story to me or send it +snailmail.. + +PLEASE.....HUH!... + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#56, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Lost colony (57/100) +From: Bill English +To : Jim Sanders @ 995/113 +Date: 03/10/91 00:46:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-08-91 14:23> Jim Sanders @ 995/113 wrote: + +JS>Bill, +JS> +JS>I have seen a thread which refers to the "Lost Colony of +JS>Roanoke" or such.. +JS> +JS>Have an item which may interest you... +JS> +JS>I the vacinity of Sneedville, Tenn. are remmants of a group +JS>of people called Malungeons (sp?). They were supposedly +JS>settled in this area BEFORE Boone or any of the others +JS>crossed to the west... +JS> +JS>Some now say they are descendents of the lost colony and +JS>other say shipwrecked Portugese sailors... They are not +JS>Amerindians +JS> +JS>Have you anything on this mystery??? + + +Jim, unfortunately the only thing that I know about it is what I have read in +history class. And at that I didn't do very well because I refered to it as +the Smith Town Colony...Sheesh! + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#57, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Ufinet news bbs (58/100) +From: Bill English +To : Michael Geggus +Date: 03/10/91 00:47:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-09-91 07:21> Michael Geggus wrote: + +MG>Is UFInet News BBS available throught the CONNECT USA +MG>network? Just wondering.......I did find one GIF which I +MG>uploaded here on City Lights BBS of the Face on +MG>Mars.....Mike Geggus +MG> + + +Hmmmm...good question. I don't really know if it is or not. If anyone would +care to give me the information about how this might be done, I would appreciate +it. + +Bill.. + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#58, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: KECKSBURG UFO (59/100) +From: Bill English +To : Lynn Curtis +Date: 03/10/91 00:55:00 + + +In a message to Bill English <03-08-91 13:04> Lynn Curtis wrote: + +LC>Hello Bill! +LC> +LC> I saw you logged onto my board and I've upgraded your +LC>access anytime you wish to call feel free. +LC> +LC> It has been a long time since I've delved into my +LC>fascination and need-to-know of UFOs. It's been about 3 +LC>1/2 years maybe 4. +LC> +LC> Do you have a complete files listing for all of your +LC>UFO-related files? I've got some catching up to do and +LC>would appreciate a look-see at what all you have. +LC> +LC>Thanks, +LC> Lynn + + +Lynn, we have a problem here. I HAVE NOT called your BBS. If someone has logged +onto your system using my name I would suggest that you dump them immediately, +or at least question them as to their identity. It may be that they have the +same first and last name as I do. If they state that they are me then they are +lying. Once we get this little matter starightened out I will be most happy +to call your system. You of course are always welcome here at UFINET News BBS. + +Yes I do have a complete files listing, freq the file "ALLFILES.BBS" + +Kind regards, +Bill English +UFINET + +--- QuickBBS 2.64 (Eval) + * Origin: UFINET News BBS (505)682-3450 9010/14 (1:308/100) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#59, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Back to Future (60/100) +From: Larry Mears +To : Chakko Ohye +Date: 03/08/91 13:51:55 + + +In a message of <05 Mar 91 00:06:00>, Chakko Ohye writes : + + > I don't know anything about the Philadelphia Experiment Book. I + > saw the movie (If it's the same topic?). But a hover board, I think, + > would be possible with electricity. When current is passed through + > wires a magnetic field gets created (induced), like an electro-magnet. + > So, just get two magnets (like doughnut shaped ones) and put them + > on top of each other so that they repel each other and one will hover + > over the other magnet. I'm sure the same thing could be re-created + > using electro-magnet type devices which were designed so that the + > magnetic fields from each one would align up in the right way. + +If you did that you would have to run around with one set of +magnets on a seperate board for the other board to oppose. The +thing Brown was doing is different. Just read the book you'll +enjoy it. ...LGM + + +--- KramMail v3.10 + * Origin: Gateway - Hunstville, Al. - (205) 880-7723 *HST* (1:373/2.0) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#60, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: COVER UP (61/100) +From: John Hicks +To : CHRIS POULSEN +Date: 03/10/91 12:15:05 + + + > It's obviously some trickster with a HeNe LASER. I have one and + > could + > easily pull the same prank if I wanted to. LASERS are easily + > obtainable, and a fairly powerful one can be had for under $300. + + OK, do it in a clear sky too. Without any beam being visible. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#61, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: SORRY (62/100) +From: John Hicks +To : Peggy Noonan +Date: 03/10/91 12:18:06 + + + > Thanks for the tip on how to use the quote-from-message F3 tool. + > I'll give that a try. No, I hadn't used the QuickEd full- + + What you saw was QuickEd, by Dror Tirosh. It's the fullscreen editor I was +referring to. F3 turns on and off the quote window, enter quotes a line, and +Ctrl-Z saves the message. + The other is the common line editor, in which you work line by line. + You must be able to use ANSI.SYS and have graphics turned on at the bbs end +in order to use QuickEd. If you could use it once, you have it all set up at +your end. + + jbh + +--- FD 1.99c + * Origin: UFINET//PARANET//MUFONET (407)649-4136 (1:363/29) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#62, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Interesting! (63/100) +From: Dan Thompson +To : Bill English +Date: 03/10/91 01:32:00 + + +Hi Bill, + I noticed in a message to you from Dale Anderson, that he was +quoting a message that you had apparently sent to me, re: concerning +the radio station WWCR post that I put on here several days ago, + subject: Interesting. + I didn't receive a message from you so I'll have to assume that +it was "lost in the mail". Could you kindly re-post. + Thanks a lot, + Dan + + +--- W2Q v1.47 [Eval] + * Origin: The NightOwl BBS (614)655-2455 (1:2220/50) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#63, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Philly Experiment (64/100) +From: Billy Pietschman +To : Gus Giudici +Date: 03/09/91 21:42:00 + + +Hi! Ok--I have copies of my dads Seamans papers here in fromt of me... +I cant find any reference to Lipshiz(sp?) but I remember him mentioning +that--now I think that they were a supplier of food/supplies that they +dealt with--it been a lot of years.I have a paprer here from the US +Coast Guard--Dated Jul 30 1945 and he did graduate at Sheepshead Bay, +NY. And another letter from the LUCKENBACH STEAMSHIP COMPANY, +LUCKENBACH LINES, Foot of 35th Street, Brooklyn 32, NY, from the SS +HENRY D. THOREAU. Here is the text: To Whom It may Concern: William +Pietschman has served aboard this vessel from the 29th of January. +While this vessel was in route from Genoa to the United States, Mr. +Pietschman suffered a spinal attack, which was a recurrence of a +previous injury. From March 25th to March 31st he was unable to leave +his bed due to complete numbness in his lower limbs. + Yours truly, + Roger Brach, Purser + SS Henry D. Thoreau +He was discharged 11 April 1946 at Charleston, South Carolina, abter +being released from active duty on 8 Sept 1945 from USMSGS, New York. +He never had any "lower limb" problems that I ever saw, and I feel +somewhat qualified to comment on this, you see, he was a Doctor, and I +am a Registered Nurse. I any case, his injury(?) seems strange to me. +.... Thanks so much for your reply, and if anyone out there can find +and Merchant Marine info, please send it to this echo. There are fewer +and fewer of thse veterans left, and someone might talk about the +Philadelphia Experiment before their story dies with them...I wonder if +the experiments continued at all...don't you? + +--- W2Q v1.47 [Eval] + * Origin: The NightOwl BBS (614)655-2455 (1:2220/50) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#64, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Close Encounter of the 2nd kind (65/100) +From: Tessa Hebert +To : Chuck O'neill +Date: 03/10/91 22:28:00 + + +Hi, Chuck. I thought your Close Encounter was really interesting, & I appreciat +e +how hard it is to write a public message about something like that. I have +a few questions & would like to talk about it some more with you. + +How old was your friend's little brother when this happened? + + > playing with a flashlight, shining it into the air. You see, + > the thing was, there was a police helicopter that use to fly + > around with a big spotlight checking out people's property. + > We got his little brother into the habbit of shining it at + > the helicopter, it would really piss them off. + > + +Is it possible that he attracted the UFO by shining the flashlight in the sky? + +You know, I've read about people who have reported UFO's that "appeared to be +helicopters". I wonder if you & your friends have had a "cover-up memory" of +watching a police helicopter, when you have actually been watching a UFO. + +The other thing that curious about your story, that leads me to believe that +there is a missing time gap & that possibly you, your friend & his parents were +not able to act during that time gap is "why didn't the child's parents hear +his screams sooner & come out of the house before the UFO left?" + +I suggest that it's possible that you & friend believe you could not open the +door, when what may have happened is that you were frozen & unable to move durin +g +that time, and maybe the UFO abducted the child. +How much +time would you estimate elapsed from beginning to end of te else's story. + +--- + * Origin: The Gates Of Amber BBS(NODE1) Houston TX 713-980-3989 (1:106/9996) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#65, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: October 1973 (66/100) +From: Bob Sheldon +To : All +Date: 03/10/91 21:48:09 + + + During October, 1973, I saw about 25 UFO's in the Houston, Tx area. They +were paying a lot of attention to the oil refineries in the eastern part of +the metroplex. All of this was observed from a high rise dormitory at the Unive +rsity +of Houston. Did anyone else have a similar experience that month? This was +the month that the Yom Kippur war started in the Middle East. + +--- Echodor v3.07 + * Origin: CONNECT AMERICA #7 - Austin, Tx - 512-836-7117 - (1:382/10.0) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#66, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: 40S COVER UP (67/100) +From: Kirk Shorting +To : Chris Poulsen +Date: 03/09/91 11:37:02 + + + CP> Why would a race as superior as an alien race would need to be to + CP> traverse space waste their time communicating with lowly humans? + + Why would a race as superior as humans want to waste their time travelling +to distant continents in order to study the gorilla for twenty years? Or study +other human beings? or study flaura and fauna? + Curiosity seems an inherent element to intelligence, don't you think? +If humans were to find primitive life on Mars which communicated with one anothe +r, +I think all interested people would want to communicate with them regardless +of how far or difficult the attempt might be. + + +--- Maximus-CBCS v1.02 + * Origin: Ont.Police Journal,Ajax,ON @9600 HST (416)428-3568 (1:229/101) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#67, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Re: Coral Castle (68/100) +From: Kirk Shorting +To : Peggy Noonan +Date: 03/09/91 11:47:55 + + + I read a book a couple of years ago written by a fellow by the name of Davidov +its. +Apparantly, he is an engineer who designed a method of casting fabricated stone. +He claims to be able to create any stone out of its elements. He calls this +process geopolymerization. He claims that this method is the one used by the +Egyptians to build the Pryamid at Gaza. + I found his book extremely convincing but I was informed by another gentleman +via a message that Davidovits' theory was full of wholes. This gentleman said +that he was in a position to know but he did not elaborate. + I mention this book and its author because he claims that the monuments at +Coral Castle were created via the same method that he has pioneered. +ALthough I received a dissenting opinion, I would recommend that you give the +book a read for yourself (If you can find it.). It was very well written and +did not seem like a book written by some kook. He seemed to have good answers +for all his critics and his theory does well in explaining the various problems +inherent in the building of large structures like the pryamids. + Take care. + +--- Maximus-CBCS v1.02 + * Origin: Ont.Police Journal,Ajax,ON @9600 HST (416)428-3568 (1:229/101) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#68, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: What do you do? (69/100) +From: Karen Lawrence +To : All +Date: 03/10/91 18:37:07 + + +Does anyone know what you're supposed to do if you see a UFO? I mean do you +call anyone or something? Because - I know this seems really strange, I think +I saw one! I was driving home from my grandmother's house with my parents, and +I saw a red floating thingy behind us about 50-75 feet in the air & about half +a mile bhind us + +--- Maximus-CBCS v1.02 + * Origin: Avi-Technic BBS (1:261/662) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#69, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: PHILI. EXPER (70/100) +From: Mark Freel +To : Steve Arringdale +Date: 03/09/91 10:27:00 + + +SA>missing.... If anyone else has more detailed or different info regarding +SA>either inncident please post it, as I've been trying to collect informat +SA>this for the past 4 years, and it seems there is a brick wall in my way +SA>everywhere I turn.... + +For what its worth ... + +Some accounts of the Philadelphia Experiment mention the sighting of aliens +by crew members during the experiment, which seems to have involved +magnetic pulses. + +Several years ago, there were a few reports about a helmet that pulsed +magnetic waves through the temporal lobes. This device was intended to ind +mystic states in the user. Visions, including those of aliens, were report + +This may be the same device discussed in the December 1988 OMNI, in +_Transcending_Science_ by Dennis Stacy starting on page 55. I think this +device was also written up in the Brain Mind Bulletin. + * SLMR 1.05 * A riddle wrapped in mystery inside an enigma. Churchill + * TomCat! 2.9* * Have you tried an OFF line mail reader yet? Try it! + +--- W2Q v1.47 [Eval] + * Origin: The Software Connection Home of The File Equalizer (1:281/778) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#70, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: UFO sightings (71/100) +From: Mark Freel +To : John Powell +Date: 03/09/91 10:13:00 + + +JP> MF> Actually, I wonder why he goes fishing near Gulf Breeze! + +JP>He does?! Lately? Hmmmm. + +Lately, he might have been too busy. He likes to fish and has gone to a +number of places. Long before Desert Shield, I saw a picture in the newspa +and remembered the location because it was associated with other events. + * SLMR 1.05 * A riddle wrapped in mystery inside an enigma. Churchill + * TomCat! 2.9* * Have you tried an OFF line mail reader yet? Try it! + +--- W2Q v1.47 [Eval] + * Origin: The Software Connection Home of The File Equalizer (1:281/778) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#71, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: RE: SIGHTINGS (72/100) +From: Scott Ecker +To : Chris Poulsen +Date: 03/10/91 00:50:19 + + + > Speaking of stalling cars caused by UFO's.....are there any + > physicists out there who have any theory what force would + > cause a car to 'play dead' without any permanent damage? + +Electromagnetic forces have been suggested, I think, although without +reviewing some of the literature on my bookshelf, I could not elaborate any +further. If I can locate any references, or additional information, I will +post another message to you. + +Best Regards, + +Scott + +--- TMail v1.17 + * Origin: West Coast Pyro Board (209 661-5355) (1:205/45) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#72, Replies=1, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: RE: SIGHTINGS (73/100) +From: Scott Ecker +To : Robert De welles +Date: 03/10/91 00:51:40 + + + SE> Under normal circumstances, you are certainly correct, however in + SE> many close proximity UFO sightings, automobiles *will* stall, and + SE> all electrical functions will cease. Not a direct example of + SE> "extra-terrestials," but certainly a legitimate part of the UFO + SE> phenomenon. + + > I don't really think so I mean U.F.O.s....I how do we know that + > the ufos are balls of energy,I mean things like that (battery + > and all) are all natural! + +Ball lightening, corona discharge, what? Your message is difficult to +understand. Anyway, there is quite some difference between an ambiguous +light seen in the distance, and a structured craft with lights, windows, +whatever, seen at close proximity. Certainly you do not mean to suggest that +"car stopping," in the UFO context, is purely coincidental? + + > I understand about some of them but most of ther time people are + > just making all those stories up. + +Statistically, hoaxes do not represent the majority of UFO sightings--that +destincition belongs to misinterpretation of astronomical or conventional +objects, and the like. The exact figures from the Air Force's Project Blue +Book study, as recorded in _The Hynek UFO Report_, were: Astronomical: +26.0%; Aircraft: 17.0%; Hoaxes: 0.9%; Psychological: 0.5%. This is only a +partial list, but serves its purpose nonetheless. You will also note that of +some 12,618 sightings recorded by Blue Book, a mere 116 were identified as +hoaxes. Even the 701 listed as "unknown" far outnumber those listed as +fraudulent. Hardly a convincing case for the "made up" theory. + +Best Regards, + +Scott + +--- TMail v1.17 + * Origin: West Coast Pyro Board (209 661-5355) (1:205/45) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#73, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: UFO funnybone (74/100) +From: Dale Anderson +To : Ben Curtis +Date: 03/07/91 06:10:59 + + +In a message to Dale Anderson <05 Mar 91 10:24> Ben Curtis wrote: + + BC> I feel that a spark of laughter is in order, from time to time. + BC> Maybe some people feel that UFOlogy is a joke. Maybe those + BC> jokesters really feel that UFO's are a probability, and deep down + BC> they might fear it. Fear of this kind of thing brings on a shield. + BC> Laughter/jokes are that vent. + +Hi Ben. Your 101% correct with me. Humor manifests itself in different ways +and is a nervous release at times. The intent of my message was to propose +some type of often seen 'rules of the echo' to let new people know (and remind +the veterans) what to expect and what is expected of them when interacting with +the echo participants. I'm sure I am not the first to suggest this, I don't +like to see people ridiculed for no reason. + + BC> I have had my experiences. I don't relate it to anyone, because of + BC> the "beyond belief" syndrome. But, I do love a good natured spoof + +Ben, you surely know this is a 'beyond belief' area. We attempt to make sense +of all the nonsense. That just isn't possible sometimes. The trouble is one +doesn't always know where the nonsense ends and the sense starts. I think that +is why a degree of respect is needed, especially to inform the new participant. + To let them know that even if their sighting sounds like a lot of nonsense, +there is a place to attempt explanation. + + BC> now and then. I guess that might be the question, if it is good + BC> natured, or not. + +I respect and understand your viewpoint. I agree that jokes are occasionally +needed for uplifting the monotony of seriousness here, if they are good natured +and most importantly, don't offend a participant _personally_. I simply dislike +watching certain people (_most often new_) jump into a new or old message and +make 'wisecracks' at someones claimed experiences. I don't see how that is +conductive to productive discussion. My main concern is for those new individua +ls +who have been sent the questionable message, and might not view it as funny. + Instead of relating their experience (or whatever it is), they might decide +to 'tune out' the echo and not return. As it is said, "first impressions are +lasting impressions". Ridicule is fine in my view, _if_ it is deserved. Perhap +s, +just leaving the decision to the receiver of the message is more appropriate, +or ignoring it until it ceases. I absolutely am not trying to be a 'topic cop', +I don't have the expertise or patience necessary. I do tend to get a bit defens +ive +at times, as you and others have witnessed. It _is_ done with a well intended +purpose and encourage anyone here to present differing opinions. + + BC> I wouldn't make an all out rule on laughter, just because a few are + BC> too serious for thier health. Why censor ... like the government + BC> seems to do relating to UFO's? + +No way!! I don't want to see a ban on laughter, I need all the laughter I can +get. I believe in free information flow and don't want to see that flow obstruct +ed +in unnecessary ways. I appreciate your response and for stating your views. + I strongly believe that the echo is important for others, and 'hackers' like +me, with a serious interest in the phenomena. I feel that next to paying the +big boys of electronic storage and transfer $6.00+ an hour for discussion forums +and e-mail, this is a unique medium and needs to exist. BTW, I did laugh at +the 'gas station' joke, really! + + + BC> 001122[[: Ben Curtis :]]221100 + BC> Now ... where did I put that diskette? + +It's under the slice of pizza. ;-) + Regards, + Dale +--- XRS!% 4.02 + * Origin: \_Speculation sometimes leads to Confirmation_/ (Quick 1:19/19.22) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#74, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Cover up (75/100) +From: Dale Anderson +To : John Feilke +Date: 03/07/91 06:48:12 + + +In a message to Dale Anderson <05 Mar 91 16:04> John Feilke wrote: + + >DA=>waiting to see the videos. Anyone have the ABC address? I + >DA=>feel like sending a letter. + + JF> I left the phone number on here the night it happened. Can't find + JF> it here right now. Look at the posts for the last monday night in + JF> FEB. I called up ranted & raved to the answering lady and she kindly + +After reading some recent messages, someone had posted the number. Thanks for +the reply. BTW, I like your method of 'ranting and raving'. + + Regards, + Dale +--- XRS!% 4.02 + * Origin: \_Speculation sometimes leads to Confirmation_/ (Quick 1:19/19.22) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#75, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: files (76/100) +From: Dale Anderson +To : Ken Willoughby +Date: 03/08/91 06:27:46 + + +In a message to Bill English <02 Mar 91 10:56> Ken Willoughby wrote: + + KW> Sorry I am going to be out of commission for about 2 weeks to a + KW> month with a Melanoma {tumor} operation on my eye. I may be able + KW> to use my daughter's computer if the opportunity permits. + +Ken, + + I don't know if you'll receive this message before your hospital stay. Pleas +e +know that I wish you the best in your operation. We expect to see you back +here when you are recovered, or sooner. Take care. + + Dale +--- XRS!% 4.02 + * Origin: \_Speculation sometimes leads to Confirmation_/ (Quick 1:19/19.22) + + Sub: N~UFO +Read: (1-100), Message#76, Replies=0, [C/R]=Next Msg, ? : + +Subj: Government cover-up (77/100) +From: Dale Anderson +To : Rick Moen @ 914/207 +Date: 03/08/91 06:50:47 + + +In a message to Dale Anderson <02 Mar 91 02:57> Rick Moen @ 914/207 wrote: + + > DA> Have you researched the Hudson Valley sightings? ... + + > RM> I haven't had a chance to (but do not profess to be a UFO + > RM> investigator, in the first place). The problem with many of + + > DA> was conducted as best it could under the circumstances, more + > DA> importantly, as it was happening. Maybe the total story isn't + + RM> many, many times in the past, cases have been misinterpreted and + RM> vastly overblown, and a far different picture has appeared on + RM> further examination. For all I know, a different picture in + RM> _this_ case may already be evident. I just don't know the case + RM> concerned, though UFO history would suggest that you're jumping + RM> to conclusions. + +I am anticipatory of your description of "a different picture", if you can, +of "_this_" case and why I am jumping to conclusions. Cases _have_ been misinte +rpreted +in the past. Researchers are human and subject to error. Let's scrutinize +the information case by case, separately from the others. 'Night Siege' _is_ +an informative book (and recommended). Ex-skeptic-government UFO researcher, +the late Hynek was even involved. + + > DA> The data cannot sit and be outdated, as the witnesses at + > DA> Roswell,... + + RM> The _alleged_, never-produced witnesses, you mean? + +The research did produce witnesses, whose stories are in books/articles about +the incident. Some of the witnesses preferred, at their request, to remain +anonymous as to their true identity for personal reasons. As I stated before, +anyone with a serious interest in locating the witnesses should do so through +the investigators of the original research. I do not have personally researched +information on this topic. + + > DA> ...but must be researchable now for future researchers to benefit. + > DA> Rather than recite the book, I'll just say that the reports were + > DA> safely in the _hundreds_, + + RM> As I've said before, _quantity_ of evidence in itself means + RM> nothing. Every year, on Christmas Eve, there are hundreds of + RM> reported sightings of flying reindeer and red-suited fat men. + RM> That doesn't mean we should be solemnly discussing Close + RM> Encounters of the Santa Kind. ;-) + +Sure, if you say so. What echo is Santa on? ;-) + + > DA> down-range of the initial reported location. A large + > DA> percentage of the sightings described basically the same shape, + > DA> speed, etc..., of the object. + + RM> This only shows they were likely _seeing the same thing_. + RM> It doesn't tell you what the thing _was_. + +Good, we have established the witnesses were not subject to individual error +and misinterpretations. What would be the next step? + + > RM> especially the Cooper/Lear variety. Probably, the common +uncompress: corrupt input + > RM> scientific attitude is "40 years of study, and they're still + > RM> coming up with just bizarre conspiracy bulldada stuff?" ... + + > DA> I don't agree with your analogy for scientific disregard + > DA> towards the phenomenon. + + RM> I don't quite follow: It wasn't an analogy. + + RM> I was simply making a stab at guessing why most scientists are + RM> generally unwilling to listen to UFOlogists (which is what you + RM> asked). However, as I noted, you asked the wrong guy. To find + RM> out what scientists think, I think you had best ask _them_. + +Your correct, it is not an analogy. I retract that statement. Your "stab" +is probably accurate to a sense, but still invalid in my view. + +It was your skeptical and scientifically based thinking that prompted the questi +ons, +_if_ I am correct with this overview. Do you know of any +scientists that might wish to participant on the echo? + + > DA> I know it is just an example, but scientists cannot (I trust) + > DA> be that ignorant of the data. + + RM> Such touching faith! You are being careful, I hope, to + RM> distinguish between the data and their interpretation. It's the + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2814.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2814.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6846f6fc --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2814.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,798 @@ +SUBJECT: CROP CIRCLES: MICHAEL CHOROST MUFON SYMPOSIUM PAPER + + +FILE: UFO2814 + + + + + + + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +This information is presented for your persusal and is a continuation +of my policy of informing the public what is currently available. As +usual my *disclaimer* is simply to present the data and let you form +your own opinion(s). Please feel free to agree,disagree,discuss or +ponder :-) + +As I do not have a great amount of time available to pursue follow-ups +exclusively, comments to me should be directed to dona@bilver.uucp +in mail. +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +----Begin Included Text --------------------------------------------- + + + + + Thesis for a Pre-Paradigm Science: Cereology + + Michael Chorost + + Written March 1991; published July 1991 + + 1. Cereology as a Pre-Paradigm Science + 2. Non-Human Intelligence? + 3. The Problem with "Intelligence" + 4. A Guess: Are the Crop Circles A Symbol System? + 5. About Unconvincing Guesses + 6. The Future Looks Back on the Present: A Hopeful Guess + + Appendix: Colin Andrews' Catalog of Formations, with Annotations by + Michael Chorost (not included in electronic version) + + I'm writing this paper in March 1991, well before the start of the +next crop circles season. I anticipate that by July, there will be new +developments I will want to talk about, instead of reading a paper written +months before. Thus I have not designed this paper to be read aloud. +However, since it is oriented toward grounding cereology as a theoretical +discipline, I am likely to presume many of its points in my talk. I will be +happy to entertain questions about it in Chicago. + + 1. Cereology as a Pre-Paradigm Science + + In this first of six sections, I want to talk about cereology as a +discipline, and acquaint readers with some of its complexities and prob- +lems. In the remaining sections, I will explore one particular problem in +detail: are the circles a language? And if so, how might we figure it out? + + The crop circles phenomenon is much more complex than it appears +at first glance, so it follows that cereology, the study of the phenomenon, +needs to think ways which will encompass that complexity. So it is impor- +tant to establish right off that the phenomenon has aspects which make +naive "the aliens have started talking to us" theories difficult to uphold. +The evidence leads in contradictory directions. For example, researchers +(primarily meteorologists) have gathered eyewitness reports of circles from +as far back as 1918, and have found written texts describing what may be +crop circles from as far back as 1590. One 17th-century text describes +an event in 1633, where a school curate saw, while walking at night in a +Wiltshire field, "innumerable quantitie of pigmies or very small people +dancing rounde and rounde, and singing and making all manner of small +odd noyses." He heard "a sorte of quick humming noyse all the time" and +"when the sun rose he found himself exactly in the midst of one of these +faery dances."1 Such "quick humming noyses" have been heard in +present-day crop circles,2 and have been captured on tape by the BBC +and other observers. The curate's story seems to fit, because modern +crop circles are believed to form very rapidly, as this one apparently did, +and the "pigmies...dancing rounde" could have been a 17th-century +observer's way of interpreting a spinning, possibly glowing force field. + + Another text, authored by Robert Plott in 1686, discusses an appar- +ently similar event in 1590 and theorizes that such artifacts are made by +lightning. An illustration theorizes that cone-shaped "lightning strikes" +are responsible for the rings and, astonishingly, rings containing squares. +David J. Reynolds notes that Plott describes "'imperfect segments', rings +within rings, squares (?!), 'Semicircles, Quadrants and Sextants' being +formed by combinations of multiple strokes, differing angles of descent +and variations in lightning strength across a stroke" (p. 348, italics in +originals.)3 Unfortunately, Plott does not give enough information to make +it clear whether he is observing "fairy rings", which are fungal infections +in the soil which blight plants in slowly spreading circular areas, or crop +circles. In fact, much of his discussion points away from crop circles. +Not once does he mention that the plants are flattened in spiral patterns, +nor does he talk about the intricate braiding often seen in crop circles. +And when he digs under one formation, he discovers that the soil "was +much looser and dryer than ordinary, and the parts interspersed with a +white hoar or vinew much like that in mouldy bread, of a musty rancid +smell."4 This is a finding entirely consistent with fairy rings. And yet, +as Reynolds notes, Plott is quite explicit about the existence of non-circu- +lar formations like quadrants and hollow squares, going so far as to +provide diagrams of them. To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a +fairy square. Thus we cannot eliminate the possibility that Plott saw what +we think of as crop circles. Of course, it's also possible that he saw +something which was neither fairy rings nor crop circles, but something +else altogether. + + Plott's discussion anticipates parts of the modern debate with +remarkable fidelity. He devotes considerable attention to rumors of pos- +sessed satanic dancers, but ultimately concludes that such "hoaxes" could +only account for a particular subset of the phenomenon: "If I must needs +allow [dancers] to cause some few of these Rings, I must also restrain +them to those of the first kind, that are bare at many places like a path- +way; for to both the others more natural causes may be probably as- +signed" (14.) It appears that Plott anticipated the meteorological theory +by roughly 300 years. + + These observations have to make any alien-intelligence theorist stop +and think. Plott talks about events which happened in 1590. The +curate's anomalous sighting happened a decade after the publication of +Shakespeare's First Folio. If they are true crop circles, and if they're by +aliens who have been trying to get our attention for four centuries, there +is at least one species in the galaxy which is remarkably dumb (and it's +not necessarily us.) The finders of these texts subscribe to the meteoro- +logical theory, so they interpret the reports as evidence of a naturally +occurring plasma-vortex phenomenon. The reader may not accept that +theory, but whatever he or she does accept has to take these astonishing +writings into account. + + The 17th-century texts are not the only example of fractious data. +For every eyewitness report of a glowing object or alien spacecraft +making a crop circle at night, there is another eyewitness report of a +violent wind which flattens out a circle in broad daylight.5 And there are +now numerous articles claiming that the phenomenon is generated by +"earth energies" which determine the location and shape of each crop +circle. The theory relies on dowsing results. Nonsense? Possibly; but +Terence Meaden, the arch-enemy of intelligence-oriented theories, has +begun using dowsing himself, theorizing that "the metal-rod movement of +the dowser may be related to a reaction to the minor changes in the local +magnetic field of the soil induced by the plasma vortices and their fast- +spinning fields."6 Whatever the validity of such claims (and they need to +be tested!), they add further complications to cereology. + + I hope these examples have served to shred the belief that all the +evidence points in one direction. Hoax theorists point to the Bratton +hoax, an embarrassing but quickly detected hoax perpetuated on one of +1990's surveillance groups; alien-intelligence theorists point to eyewitness +reports and the humming noises; vortex theorists point to other eyewit- +ness reports, and the humming noises; earth-energy theorists point to +dowsing results, and the humming noises; and everyone points to every- +one else as terrible examples of interpretation of data. + + So we have a complex situation. That's nothing new; it's life. But +there is an illuminating way to describe the kind of complexity that reigns +now. I borrow from Thomas Kuhn's well-known work The Structure of +Scientific Revolutions7 in suggesting that cereology is a pre-paradigm +science. Kuhn defines a "paradigm" as an "implicit body of intertwined +theoretical and methodological belief that permits selection, evaluation, and +criticism" (17). More briefly, a paradigm is a way of thinking which +unifies a scientific discipline. So far, that's exactly what cereology lacks. +It consists of a mass of disparate observations and a few theories, none +of which explain very much. The absence of a paradigm is beautifully +illustrated by two very different interpretations of what may be an eye- +witness report of a quintuplet formation being made. On July 13, 1988, +according to Circular Evidence, a woman saw "a large, golden, disc-shaped +object within [a] cloud" which emitted "a bright white parallel beam...from +the bottom of the disc at an angle of roughly 65o [which] shone across +the sky towards Silbury Hill" (p. 115.) Delgado and Andrews imply that +an alien spacecraft used an energy beam to inscribe the formation. +Terence Meaden, on the other hand, writes, "On 13th July 1988, a lady +was eyewitness to a hollow pencil-shaped tube (not a beam) of light which +reached from cloud to ground for an observed period of a couple of +minutes. A huge volume of the cloud, which was at 4000 feet, appeared +electrified."8 One event, one witness; two interpreters, two "facts"; no +paradigm. + + So how are cereologists to conduct pre-paradigm science? Kuhn +writes, "In the absences of a paradigm or some candidate for a paradigm, +all of the facts that could possibly pertain...are likely to seem equally +relevant. As a result, fact-gathering is a far more nearly random activity +than the one that subsequent scientific development makes familiar." (15) +This accurately describes how matters stand as of this writing. The +sensible thing to do is to repeat history, i.e. gather as many observations +as possible, omnivorously, excluding nothing. There should be routine +data collection with IR cameras, geiger counters, magnetometers, plant DNA +assays, weather stations, and so on. Good photos and accurate measure- +ments need to be taken; even dowsing results and unusual physical sensa- +tions should be assiduously recorded. And everything should be pub- +lished. Some sets of observations may not be deemed relevant in the +future--that is the risk of pre-paradigm science--but we owe it to future +researchers and historians to bequeath them as rich a storehouse of data +as we can. + + We could be doing better on this score. As of this writing, meas- +urements and positional data of both English and North American forma- +tions are both scarce and of uneven quality. Instrumental experiments +are rarely performed. In addition, poor organization and political battles +impede the release of what data does exist. Michael Green is sadly right +when he notes that "inordinate professional jealousy and commercial rival- +ry...has unfortunately marked the study of the subject to date, and has +led to a hoarding of essential information."9 For example, the meteorolo- +gists are sitting on their data, partly because they're unwilling to let +their opponents have it. The alien-intelligence theorists are also sitting +on their data, partly because they feel reluctant to give away the product +of many hours of hard work. Neither concern is justified. Researchers +are responsible only for the quality of their data, not for what others do +with it. It seems to me that anybody who thinks his data will help his +opponents more than it will help him is in an unenviable position, as far +as his theory is concerned. And to sit on data is effectively to waste the +work that went into its collection. The CCCS (Centre for Crop Circle +Studies) is trying to overcome these problems, and we should wish them +the best of luck. Steady but polite pressure from Americans may help, +too. + + Two things are necessary, over and above performing the research: +a smoothly functioning network funneling data toward publication, and the +attitude that information should be shared with the community to promote +further research. Secrecy and mercantile considerations serve only to +gum up the works, especially at this fragile stage. It would be best if +history could record that information was freely and generously shared in +these difficult early days. A 1991 report by Chris Rutkowski and other +members of the NAICCR (North American Institute for Crop Circles Re- +search) beautifully exemplifies this attitude. It lists 46 cases of ground +markings in 1990, about thirty of which appear to be English-style crop +circles. It provides formation types, lay rotations, dates, sizes, and +approximate locations. (I am now writing a review of it, which I anticipate +will appear in the May 1991 issue of the Mufon UFO Journal.) I hope +other cereologists will consider its example well. + + After obtaining data, cereologists will just have to theorize as +carefully and responsibly as they can, and dare to be wrong. Francis +Bacon writes, "Truth emerges more readily from error than from confu- +sion."10 This maxim strikes me with particular force when I contemplate +the meteorologists' corpus of research. I think its basic thesis is in +error, yet even the few the scraps of data the meteorologists publish are +more useful than the typically haphazard observations offered by people +whom I think are closer to the mark. Organized error can be re-organ- +ized into truth. + + 2. Non-Human Intelligence? + + 2001: A Space Odyssey seems less science-fictional than it did in +1968, now that artificial constructions of an anomalous nature are appear- +ing repeatedly around the world. Most of the major researchers in cere- +ology are convinced that human beings are not making them, because they +cannot figure out what human device, however sophisticated, could pro- +duce all of the observed effects and remain undetected for so long. I am +inclined to agree with them, though I would add that it is always risky to +underestimate the ingenuity of our own species. I suspect that the +possibility of a fabulously intricate hoax, however slight, keeps a lot of +cereologists awake at nights. Perhaps worrying about the hoax theory is +one way of worrying about the implications of the circles not being hoax- +es. + + Some researchers, primarily the meteorologists, believe that the +circles are produced by a natural phenomenon that we have only now +begun to notice. Many people find this unconvincing. Nature can indeed +produce fabulously intricate structures, like us, but I have never seen it +do so both overnight and on such a vast scale. And I find it difficult to +ascribe the rapidly increasing complexity of the shapes to natural forces, +which typically change slowly when they change at all. + + By elimination, I have become sympathetic to non-human intelligence +theories--as I suspect many of my readers will be also. There is some +slight anecdotal evidence for such theories; NAICCR's report on ground +markings notes, for instance, that 4 of its 46 listed cases have UFO sight- +ings associated with them. Anecdotal evidence is notoriously difficult to +use, however, so I will not appeal to it in my analysis. + + Let us suppose--it is still more or less an outright guess--that the +crop circles are the products of a non-human intelligence, and explore the +implications of that thesis. It will be fun to do so, if nothing else. The +rest of this essay will be devoted to that undertaking. + + It is possible, as I have remarked elsewhere,11 that the formations +are the visible side-effect of some deliberately directed physical process, +the way tire tracks and footprints are. At present, there is virtually +nothing that can be said about this important theory. Discussion only +becomes possible when one hypothesizes that the formations are supposed +to mean something, either to their creators or to ourselves. And it is to +this possibility that I will devote most of my attention. + + If we want to try to decode the circles, we are faced with gigantic +problems at the very outset. Typically, when we receive messages from +human intelligences, we have some amount of shared background to draw +upon in decoding them. Shared language is obviously the most useful +background; but if that is absent, there are usually others, such as +shared physical environment, shared needs, shared knowledge of history, +shared interests, shared physiologies. Not knowing Arabic, I can still +guess that an Arab with me in a souk is hungry if he looks at me and +mimics the act of eating. + + But we may share nothing with an alien intelligence. At any rate, +we can presume nothing.12 We cannot presume similar sensory equipment +or physical needs; we cannot presume similar evolutionary conditions; we +cannot even presume corporeal bodies or a sense of self. I could go on +and on about the radical uncertainty involved. To cut a long discussion +short, it comes down to this: we must guess, just plain guess, that they +are like us in some ways, and proceed accordingly. In writing about +decoding a hypothetical alien message, Lewis White Beck argues that "we +must guess that it is a message, guess what it says, and then try to see +if the signal can convey that message."13 For example, we could guess +that the dimensions of the circles encode mathematical relationships such +as pi and e, and search to see if such numbers can be found in a sys- +tematic way. Or we could guess that certain logical relationships are +being implied, and search for the most basic ones, such as transitivity +and hierarchy. Or it could be posited that the spatial locations of the +circles relative to each other are related to spatial distances elsewhere, +such as between stars. The chances of picking the wrong message are +high, but Bacon's dictum about truth still applies. + + 3. The Problem with "Intelligence" + + I will dare to be wrong later in this essay, but I want to make a +remark about "intelligence" first. The debate over the crop circles can +all too easily polarize into two camps, intelligent versus non-intelligent +causation. But the entire debate could be off the mark. The +phenomenon's cause may not be "blind nature", but it may not be intelli- +gence the way we know it, either. If it's aliens, they might be far smart- +er than us in some ways, but dumb as bricks in others. Or suppose the +circlemaker is Gaia--an intelligence resulting from complex interactions in +the biosphere of the planet? Or, the combined psychic interactions of the +human race? Or a natural phenomenon which is being manipulated by +such psychic interactions? Farfetched ideas, to be sure, but so is the +phenomenon. As my colleague Dennis Stacy has repeatedly warned me in +correspondence, thinking along rigid "p or not-p" lines can overlook +fruitful areas of inquiry. An arrow flying in a straight line can still miss +the target. + + Also, it is well to remember that all of the words denoting "intelli- +gent beings" in English were designed to refer to exactly one species: +Homo sapiens of Earth. All English words denoting "intelligent non-human +beings" are negatives: "alien" is rooted in the Sanskrit antara, which +means merely "other", and "extra-terrestrial" means "not from Earth." In +terms of thinking about alien intelligence, our language is as limited as +the counting system which calls all quantities above five "many." + + However, I will guess an intelligence not altogether different from +ours, simply because it is the easiest for us to think about. It is as +reasonable a place to start as any. + + Of course, the problem of decoding would still be daunting. To +manage it, we can make more guesses: perhaps the circlemakers have +already observed us and know something about us. They may have +guessed that our minds will leap to certain guesses, and attempted to play +to our predilections. (Such double-guessing could someday tell us quite a +bit about them.) As Cipher A. Deavours points out, aliens ought to have +some interest in developing codes designed to reveal rather than conceal +information.14 Decoding could be orders of magnitude easier if the cir- +clemakers have taken our ways of decoding into account. We may be +seeing our humanness being filtered through alien consciousness and +played back at us. + + Of course, the simplest way of communicating with us would have +been to use our own symbols, or to use something readily comprehensible +to us, like groups of circles corresponding to the prime numbers. The +fact that we have not readily understood the circles suggests a number of +possibilities: we have not really tried yet; there is no message; there is a +message, but one whose content is not directed at us; the entities are so +profoundly different from us that they cannot figure out what we would +find easily accessible; they have more subtle motives than straightforward +communication; they have decided to dispense with easy formalities and +want us to think hard, perhaps with the implied lure that the reward will +be worth the effort. I find the first the most preferable, since so little +has been done by way of attempts at decoding. In any case, it's reason- +able to guess that something complex and multileveled is either happening +or being communicated. + + 4. A Guess: Are the Crop Circles A Symbol System? + + All this said, I will now risk being wrong in a major way. I will +argue that we are indeed looking at a symbol system. The shapes seem to +have a certain "symbolicity" (see Colin Andrews' catalog, Appendix I.) I +don't necessarily mean that they are a phonetic alphabet like English; I +mean something more like pictorial codes or schematics. However, I shall +have to be rather vague about what I mean by the word "symbol." The +most specific definition I can offer is "a mark which means something to a +group of people, by convention." For there can be many different kinds +of symbols. A symbol can be a mark with exactly one referent; for exam- +ple, there is a certain schematic which signifies exactly one kind of tran- +sistor. Or it can be a mark amenable to different interpretations, like the +color red in the Soviet flag (it means revolutionary political possibilities +to some, raw tyranny to others.) Or it can be a mark which functions in +a language, meaning little in itself but contributing to a total meaning. +For example, the physical mark "key" contributes in a certain way to the +sentence "Where are my car keys?" and in a different way to "The key to +the treasure is there." It seems to me that the circles could be symbols +in any of these ways (and there are many more possible ways.) I tend to +gravitate toward the third, language-oriented kind of symbolicity, but I +don't wish to exclude the others. My intention is to spark a rich debate +by opening up possibilities, not to truncate debate by closing them off. + + To a lot of people, the formations "feel" like a symbol system. And +they do have broad structural elements in common with human symbol +systems (which, it must be pointed out, may not be much of a basis for +comparison.) Like many human symbol systems, they can be broken down +into certain recurring basic shapes--the circle the line, the rectangle, the +ring, the curved arc, and so on. These elements are their "strokes." If +the formations are complex, they are complex by the accumulation of pre- +existing elements, not the creation of new elements (though each summer +does bring some new elements.) + + Like human symbol systems, the crop circles present enough variety +to suggest the possibility of reference to a large number of objects or +ideas. If we saw only three formations repeated over and over, we would +probably be more inclined to think them artistic or cultural icons, or +natural artifacts, rather than members of a linguistic or representational +system. + + Like human symbols, their variety remains within limits; of 1990's +numerous single and double dumbbells, no two are alike, but all are +recognizably part of a class. It's a bit like the way the English letters +b,d,p,q,c, and o form a recognizable class. The Egyptian hieroglyph for +"bird" would stick out and look very strange in that class, and indeed it +would not belong anywhere in the alphabet. As would the letter "b" look +very odd, if claimed to be a Chinese ideogram. + + The "variety within limits" argument is important for another rea- +son. The appearance of "scrolls", rectangles, and triangles suggests that +there is no physical limitation to the kind of shapes that can be created. +If a short rectangle can be made, so can long ones to form lines, and the +scrolls suggest that irregular lines can be drawn "freehand", as it were. +The fact that the formations seem to vary within boundaries seems to +suggest a defined and ordered system. + + Of course, there are problems with the argument, such as that the +formations bear little obvious spatial relationship to each other the way +human symbols usually do. One is also hard-pressed to group the weirdly +curvy "scroll" formations as belonging to the same system as the highly +angular double-dumbbells; perhaps the scrolls really are mistakes or +doodles. Or perhaps the only message being conveyed is "Watch this +space, and be here next summer." Humorists have also suggested alien +art galleries and alien advertising. My guesses may more wrong than I +can imagine. But for all that, I think it is not crazy to guess that we are +looking at a symbol system, not random squiggles. + + It just may be possible to start grouping 1990's new formations into +classes. Such attempts are highly arbitrary by their nature, conditioned +by the viewer's predispositions (as are readings of Rorschach inkblots), +but the attempt is worth making. It would be interesting to see what +groupings other people make. Colin Andrews' catalog (see Appendix A) +lists 65 formation types (one is a known hoax, so I don't count it.) I can +derive the following classes from studying Colin's catalogue: + + (Numbers refer to the formation number in the catalog) + + Single dumbbells (21, 22, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 33, 36, 55) + Double-dumbbells (34, 35, 54) + Thetas (40, 41, 49, 50) + Plain circles with satellites (3, 5, 6, 17, 43, 52) + Ringed circles (10, 19, 20, 23, 24, 25, 38, 64) + Saturns (7, 8, 11, 32, 37, 46) + Rings (44) + Scrolls (45, 48, 65) + Triangles (47, 63) + Sports (unique formations, i.e. 26, 39, 53, 58, 59, 62) + +To explain my nomenclature: I call the "thetas" so because their split +central circle reminds me of the Greek letter "O" (I imply no actual con- +nection to Greek.) The "saturns" remind me of Saturn with its moons +(again, no connection to the planet implied, though it's not impossible that +there be one.) I take the name "scroll" from The Crop Circle Enigma +(which shows pictures of them on p. 156.) I name the "sports" so be- +cause a "sport" in biology is a unique object. + + Interestingly enough, it may be that the formation types are also +roughly contiguous in space. The hand-drawn map reproduced in Issue 2 +of The Cereologist (p. 3) shows that all three double-dumbbells appeared +quite close to each other, in fact within an area five kilometers long and +two kilometers wide, just north of Alton Barnes. At least six of the ten +single dumbbells appeared in the Longwood Estate area, just southwest of +Winchester. The four thetas may fall in a line (it will take much better +data to verify this.) Two of the scrolls are quite close to each other, at +Beckhampton. + + The spatial-relationships idea is being pursued vigorously by +Harvey Lunenfeld of East Northport, New York. We've been trying to +obtain positional data for as many of the formations as possible, in order +to create a computerized database. Harvey and his son Randy are now +configuring sophisticated mapping software which will facilitate the search +for spatial relationships, and also for correlations with other types of +data. So far we've been obtaining our positional data from thumbnail +deduction from photographs and other available evidence. The job will +become much easier once we gain access to satellite imagery good enough +to show exactly where the formations are. Access to some of the English +databases would also help greatly, of course. + + Allow me to call attention to the fact that certain elements recur in +different contexts. The triangle's "F" is much like the shapes jutting out +>from all three double dumbbells. (Could it be significant that none of the +single dumbbells have such shapes?) The other triangle's flanking shapes +are very much like the double rectangles on many of the single dumbbells +(and, note, none of the double dumbbells.) One simple circle has a three- +fingered shape jutting out of it which looks almost exactly like the one +attached to the Allington Down (more precisely, East Kennett) double +dumbbell. Some of the single dumbbells and the theta formations have +partial arcs as components. The saturns are a combination of plain circles +with satellites and ringed circles. This evident combination and recombi- +nation of elements makes it plausible to suppose that there is some form +of "grammar" ruling their placement. + + It may be possible to work out the properties of the grammar +without understanding the meaning of the symbols. One way to do this is +to compare groups of symbols to each other, isolating consistent statistical +similarities and differences. For example, if the ratios of the areas of the +two circles in single dumbells compares in some consistent way to the +ratios of the lengths of the forks to their circles, that might indicate a +meaningful element of language. This particular example is mathematically +oriented, but other strategies are feasible, too: one could compare the +spatial orientation of the thetas to that of all of the other groups, or +compare the length of formations to their compass orientations. It is an +encouraging fact that cryptographers are frequently able to decode +messages whose plaintext is written in a language they do not know very +well. Deavours writes, + + It is of interest that codes can often be solved where + the underlying language of the plaintext is not known + for certain. One can also gain an immense knowledge of + the structure and character of a communication without + understanding a single thought expressed therein. For + intergalactic communication, this offers much hope that + we may succeed in deciphering what is received (203- + 204.) + +As evidence that meaning is not crucial to decipherment, Deavours men- +tions that + + the great French cryptanalyst, Georges Painvain, of + World War I fame, solved many complex ciphers of the + German General Staff but possessed so little knowledge + of German that he was unable to translate the deci- + phered text after solution (209). + +Not knowing the language need not impede understanding its shape and +general characteristics. Such research could yield one great practical +benefit down the road: upon receiving a Rosetta Stone, we would then be +able to learn and read the language that much more quickly, perhaps well +enough to begin using it ourselves. In the touchy and uncertain days +immediately following alien contact, such an advantage might be very +welcome indeed. This makes it all the more imperative to facilitate re- +search with an effective network of data distribution. + + Figuring out what the grammar's shapes represent (if grammar it is, +of course) will be tough, because the formations appear to lack all social +context. There is no "Rosetta Stone" permitting them to be compared to a +known symbol system; there are no objects helpfully put next to them to +show what they depict or schematize; there are no appreciative alien enti- +ties in view admiring them as art. Quite the contrary, they are placed +wordlessly (so to speak) on this planet's largest equivalent of a blank, +lined sheet of paper. But we should try. We can attempt to restore the +context, or at least make one. Our guesses might be correct. + + But a worrying philosophical issue intrudes here. Let us say we +guess a message--a meaning--and find out that the circles transmit it. +Can we be sure that we have truly decoded the circles? Perhaps not. +Humans are infinitely resourceful at seeing patterns that are not there. +Edward R. Tufte, in his engaging book "Envisioning Information", reprints +a picture of a rock in southern Massachusetts which is covered with +ancient hieroglyphs.15 Next to the picture he reproduces ten hand-drawn +sketches of the markings, made between 1680 and 1854. Not only are the +sketches strikingly different, but different scholars have triumphantly +adduced totally different origins for the glyphs: Scythian, Phoenician, +Runic, Viking, and Algonquin, to name a few. Tufte cheerfully damns this +as "scholarship of wishful thinking" (73). I am not sure if there is any +way to solve the problem, other than asking the circlemakers what they +mean (and even that might not help as much as we think it would.) My +reaction is just to say, "Let us see what we can guess and find, then see +which guess convinces the most people, and deal with the philosophical +problems as they arise." + + The lack of context is significant in another way. It is a truism +that symbols mean something only in a social context. If these shapes +have a concrete and socially-based meaning to their creators, how are +they changed by being engraved on fields on another planet? Suppose +that the magnificent Fawley Down pictogram (a "theta" formation) refers to +a Rigellian action which human physiologies cannot duplicate? If we know +nothing of Rigellian physiology, we'll never figure that out, will we? And, +more importantly, how does the meaning of the symbol change when it is +stamped, without context or explanation, in a field of wheat near Winches- +ter, England? What does the symbol mean at that particular place and +time, if anything? Not, I feel sure, just to tell us what Rigellians do. +What would a glowing Coca-Cola advertisement mean in a Brazilian rainfor- +est where Coke is not available? Anything but "Buy Coke." Perhaps it +would be (meant as, read as) an ironic statement on the extravagance of +modern advertising. But if a picture of that advertisement in the rainfor- +est was reproduced as an advertisement by Coke, the sign would again +mean "Buy Coke"--but also something more, like "Coke is, or should be, +available literally everywhere." Meaning is an event with multiple layers, +most if not all of which are radically and subtly dependent on context. + + It is attractive to suppose that the formations are a sort of logical +puzzle, like an IQ test. This would seem to make their context internal +rather than external; the shapes would define their own context. But this +argument is misleading. If one was presented with an IQ test without +knowing what it was, or being shown how to work with the shapes pre- +sented, it would be meaningless. The very idea of the logical puzzle is +socially constructed. The Soviet psychologist A. R. Luria has shown that +it is almost impossible to convey the idea of the syllogism to normally +intelligent but nonliterate people. When Russian peasants were given the +syllogistic puzzle In the Far North, where there is snow, all bears are +white. Novaya Zembla is in the Far North and there is always snow there. +What color are the bears?, a typical response was, "I don't know. I've +seen a black bear. I've never seen any others. Each locality has its own +animals." From their point of view, it was absurd to try to figure out the +color of bears with logic, since bear coats are something you see, not +deduce.16 The ideas of the logical puzzle and the transitive relationship +are evidently learned, not inherent to human intelligence. If there is a +logical pattern, it would be nothing simple to figure out, for the first +thing we would have to do is figure out what has to be figured out. And +that would almost certainly require the discovery of some external context, +like an alien culture's way of thinking and reasoning. Unless, of course, +the circlemakers have tried to use some human mode of reasoning. + + There are an enormous number of possibilities. A reading of the +circles will not come easily. A lot will depend on the ability to make +inspired guesses, and convince other people that they are right. The +rest will depend on good data, good analytical tools, and vast amounts of +hard work. But the potential payoff ought to make any linguist salivate. +The field has ample room for the next Chompollon. + + 5. About Unconvincing Guesses + + Having put forward a guess (of a sort), let me say something about +unconvincing guesses. I have seen quite a few articles purporting to +decode individual formations to reveal some definite meaning, like "Kha- +wah" ("life giver")17 or "This is a dangerous place to camp."18 The +typical move in such guesses is to declare that the formation contains +letters in an ancient language or elements from an obscure symbol system, +and decode it by translating those letters/elements into English. I find +these kinds of guesses uniformly unconvincing. If you compare the cir- +cles to any language or symbol system, you'll score a number of hits. +Compare them to English, and you'll find F's, O's, C's, Q's, I's, M's, and +W's. Compare them to American traffic symbols, and you can find resem- +blances to stoplights (i.e. three circles in a row), dashed lines on the +road, and "no entry" signs. This second example is deliberately ludi- +crous, but it illustrates the "Rorschach" quality of the phenomenon: one +can see almost anything in it. Simple resemblance alone, let alone highly +approximate resemblance, is a very shaky ground for decoding. + + It is also very common for such arguments to ignore the fact that +the supposed "letters" and 'symbols" are stuck onto unrelated shapes, +and otherwise distorted and garbled. It doesn't make sense to use an +alphabet or symbol system by making it nearly unrecognizable. Finding a +highly resemblant set of symbols could change the whole game, but to my +knowledge, no one has accomplished this, not even Michael Green in his +ambitious attempt to link the circles to designs on ancient Roman and +Celtic stone carvings.19 Green finds several interesting similarities +between ancient carvings and modern crop circles, but it's not enough to +establish a meaningful link, since hundreds of formations have appeared +in the last few years, and there are hundreds of Roman/Celtic shapes +which look nothing like any known crop circle. More problematically, the +Roman/Celtic shapes are typically combinations of circles, so the probabili- +ty of a few rough matches by pure chance is very high. And, of course, +even if the Celts were imitating crop circles seen thousands of years ago, +their interpretations of them ("cosmic egg", "sun god", etc.) cannot be +known to be the same as the intentions of the entities who generated +them. They could be completely off the mark, as far as the circlemakers +are concerned. The historical link would be exciting and valuable if +Green could establish it more strongly, but it would be of little direct +assistance in interpretative efforts. + + In sum, most would-be "decoders" look at a few formations, ignoring +all the rest; they make no attempt to resolve diverse shapes into a sys- +tem; they fail to consider disconfirming evidence. Instead, they Rorschach +their theories into a small part of the phenomenon, and find exactly what +they want to find. + + Of course, no one can avoid Rorschaching into the circles. I myself +have read my hopes, beliefs, and professional biases into them. But one +must at least try to consider the whole phenomenon and think about it +systematically. Error may then be productive error. Anything else is +only confusion. + + 6. The Future Looks Back on the Present: A Hopeful Guess + + There is far more that could be said, but I am probably pushing +the limits of Mufon's printing budget with a paper of this size, and the +patience of my readers as well. I will close, then, by offering a hopeful +look at the present from the viewpoint of the future. Someday, there may +be a paradigm which explains the crop circles to everybody's satisfaction. +Then it will be difficult for people to see this strange and beautiful +phenomenon any other way. But historians will be fascinated by the pre- +paradigm writings of this era. To them our ways of seeing will look +untutored and naive, but also fresh and new--the words of children +seeing things for the first time. Despite their superior knowledge, they +may envy us, we who have the extraordinary opportunity of first sight. +Naivete is a rare gift. Let us use it well. + + + + +Notes + +(1) R.M. Skinner, "A Seventeenth-Century Report of an Encounter with an +Ionized Vortex?" Journal of Meteorology, November 1990, p. 346. The +source is John Aubrey's Natural History of Wiltshire (publication date not +given.) + +(2) John Haddington reports hearing and recording "a strange and beauti- +ful trilling noise" in a circle at Bishops Canning, 1990. See his "The +Wansdyke Watch", The Cereologist, issue 1 (Summer 1990), p. 15. + +(3) David J. Reynolds, "Possibility of a Crop Circle from 1590." Journal of +Meteorology, November 1990, pp. 347-352. The text is Robert Plott's The +Natural History of Stafford-shire, Oxford, 1686. + +(4) Plott, p. 15 (italics in original.) I am grateful to Carl Carpenter for +sending me a xerox of the relevant chapter of the book, pages 7-21. + +(5) For examples of the former, see Delgado and Andrews' Circular Evidence +(Bloomsbury Press, 1989), pp. 179-190. For examples of the latter, see +Terence Meaden, The Circles Effect and its Mysteries (Artetech, 1989) +especially chapter 2. + +(6) Proceedings of the First International Conference on the Circles Effect +(held at Oxford Polytechnic, June 23, 1990), p. 50. This has been reprint- +ed as Circles From the Sky. The April 1991 issue of the Mufon UFO +Journal contains a large bibliography which includes ordering information +for most of the books cited in this paper. + +(7) University of Chicago Press, 1962. + +(8) Proceedings, p. 39. The event is also discussed in The Circles Effect +and its Mysteries, p. 55. + +(9) Michael Green, "The Rings of Time: The Symbolism of the Crop Circles." +In The Crop Circle Enigma (Gateway Books, 1990, ed. Ralph Noyes) p. 139. + +(10) Quoted in Kuhn, p. 18. + +(11) Michael Chorost and Colin Andrews, "The Summer 1990 Crop Circles", +Mufon UFO Journal, December 1990, pp. 3-14. + +(12) Some people have tried to define what we can presume. Gregory +Benford: "The most extreme view one can take is to reject any category of +knowledge of the alien, declaring them all to be inherently anthropomor- +phic or anthropocentric, and flatly declare that the alien is fundamentally +unknowable" (26). Benford later goes on to suggest, though, that we may +be able to expand our categories to include alien ways of knowing: "We +can make ourselves greater. We can ingest the alien" (27). ("Aliens and +Unknowability: A Scientist's Perspective", in Starship, vol. 43, Winter- +Spring 1982-3, pp. 25-27.) On the other hand, Marvin Minsky argues that +alien intelligence is likely to resemble ours, because "every evolving intel- +ligence will eventually encounter certain very special ideas--e.g. about +arithmetic, causal reasoning, and economics--because these particular ideas +are very much simpler than other ideas with similar uses" (127). (Byte, +April 1985, pp. 127-138.) Speculation is useful for defining the problem, +but it's rather like Robinson Crusoe trying to do sociology. + +(13) Lewis White Beck, "Extraterrestrial Intelligent Life." In Extraterrestri- +als: Science and Alien Intelligence, edited by Edward Regis, Jr. Cam- +bridge University Press, 1985. + +(14) Cipher A. Deavours, "Extraterrestrial Communication: A Cryptologic +Perspective", in Extraterrestrials: Science and Alien Intelligence. pp. 201- +214. (Interestingly enough, the author's name is not a joke.) + +(15) Edward R. Tufte, Envisioning Information. Graphics Press, Cheshire, +Connecticut, 1990. + +(16) Luria's finding is discussed in Walter J. Ong, Orality and Literacy: The +Technologizing of the Word (New York: Methuen, 1982), pp. 52-53. + +(17) Letter by Ernest P. Moyer, reprinted in Focus (Dec. 31, 1990), p. 16. + +(18) Jon Erik Beckjord, broadside sheet, February 1991. + +(19) Michael Green, "The Rings of Time: The Symbolism of the Crop Circles." +In The Crop Circles Enigma, Gateway Books, 1990, pp. 137-171. + + + + +About the Author + +Michael Chorost was educated at Brown and the University of Texas at +Austin, and is now at Duke, working toward his Ph.D. in Renaissance liter- +ature and philosophy of language. His first article on the subject, "The +Summer 1990 Crop Circles", was coauthored with Colin Andrews and was +published in December 1990's Mufon UFO Journal. He has also authored +a bibliography of the phenomenon. + +The author may be contacted at: + + North American Circle + P.O. 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LAIBOW, M.D. + Child and Adult Psychiatry + + Cerridwen + 13 Summit Terrace + Dobbs' Ferry, NY 10522 + (914)693-3081 + + CLINICAL DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN EXPECTED AND OBSERVED DATA IN PATIENTS + REPORTING UFO ABDUCTIONS: IMPLICATIONS FOR TREATMENT + + ABSTRACT: IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS PAPER MAKES NO ATTEMPT TO ASSIGN OR +WITHHOLD EXTERNAL VALIDITY RELATIVE TO UFO ABDUCTION SCENARIOS. + + Patients who believe themselves to be UFO abductees are a +heterogeneous group widely dispersed along demographic and cultural lines. +Careful examination of these patients and their abduction reports presents +four areas of significant discrepancy between expected and observed data. + + Implications for the treatment of patients presenting UFO abduction +scenarios are discussed. + + INTRODUCTION + + If a patient were to confide to a therapist that he had been abducted +by aliens who took him aboard a UFO and performed a series of medical +procedures and examinations on him it is not likely that the patient would +find either a receptive ear or a respectful and non-judgemental response from +the therapist. The material presented would lie so far outside the confines +of our personal and cultural belief system that it would seem intolerably +anomalous to most of us. We would probably dismiss or repudiate it using a +few comfortable and familiar assumptions which hold so much obvious wisdom +that they do not require specific examination. + + When events which are too anomalous to allow their incorporation +into our world schema are presented to us, we are likely to dismiss them +by using assumptions based in out currently operative world view. This +effectively precludes the open evaluation of the anomaly. Hence, the +"expressible" response of most clinical and lay individuals upon hearing a UFO +abduction account would be an immediate dismissal of even the possibility that +such an episode might occur. Close upon the heels of that determination the +rapid and complete pathologization of the person offering such an account +would follow. Dream states, suggestibility, poor reality testing, outright +dissembling or frank psychosis are customarily offered and accepted as evident +and reasonable organizing models by which the production of this material may +be understood. These are typical maneuvers by which the presentation of +information which challenges schematic assumptions is dismissed or screened +out before the assumptions can be adequately tested for predictive reliability +and accuracy. Such testing is highly desirable, however, because it offers +us the opportunity to apply the scientific method to our current level of +theorital sophistication and thereby refine our understanding of reality +further still. Of course, this process is severely impeded when the new data +is excluded from consideration strictly because it is too anomalous for +assessment. + + Westrum has offered a model by which events become "hidden" and +therefore remain anomalous to the perception of society in a circular +process: the hidden event is disbelieved and its disbelief helps to keep it +hidden. Citing the lengthy period during which battered children and their +battering parents remained hidden, Westrum states: + + "An event is hidden if its occurrence is so implausible + that those who observe it hesitate to report it because + they do not expect to be believed. The implausibility + may cause the observer to doubt his own perceptions, + leading to the event's denial or mis identification. + Should the observer nonetheless make a report, he/she + can expect to be treated with incredulity or even + ridicule. Since the existence of a hidden event is + contrary to what science, society, and perhaps even + the observer believes, the event remains hidden because + of strong social forces which interfere with + reporting. The actual degree of underreporting is + sometimes difficult to believe, a skepticism which + itself acts as a deterrent to taking seriously + those reports which do surface." (1) + + But for the clinician who spends a moment before reaching these +"obvious" and "intuitive" conclusions, several fascinating and potentially +productive questions present themselves. If we refrain for a short period +>from dismissing this material out-of-hand, we find that there are at least +four areas of puzzling and important discrepancy between our intuitive sense +of order and the data presented by the patient. These discrepancies force us +to re-examine our assumptions in light of a demonstrated failure of the theory +to account for the observed phenomena. This process, while taxing and +challenging, is nonetheless, the way we systemize our understanding of human +health and pathology. Noting the previously un-noted and using it to refine +our conceptual framework leads to better prediction and therefore to better +treatment. + + It is not the purpose of this paper to ascribe relative reality to the +experience of abduction reported by some patients. Rather, precisely because +it lies outside the realm of clinical expertise to assess with certainty +whether these events actually occurred or if they are mere fantasy, it is +mandatory for the clinician to examine the impact of these experiences, +whatever their source, upon the patient. This must be done in a clear sighted +and open-minded fashion so that the impact of the experiences may be dealt +with rather than made into hidden events. + + AREAS OF DISCREPANCY + + 1. ABSENCE OF MAJOR PSYCHOPATHOLOGY: It is intuitively +seductive (and perhaps comfortable) for us to assume that psychotic-level +functioning will necessarily be present in a person claiming to be a UFO +abductee. If this level of distortion and delusion is present, a patient +would be expected to demonstrate some other evidence of reality distortion. +Pathology of this magnitude would not be predicted to be present in a well +integrated, mature and non-psychotic individual. Instead, we would expect +clinical and psychometric tools to reveal serious problems in numerous areas +both inter- and interpersonally. It would be highly surprising if otherwise +well-functioning persons were to demonstrate a single area of floridly +psychotic distortion. Further, if this single idea fix were totally +circumscribed, non-invasive and discrete, that in itself would be highly +anomalous. Well-developed, fixed delusional states with numerous +elaborated and sequential components are not seen in otherwise healthy +individuals. Prominent evidence of deep dysfunction would be expected to +pervade many areas of the patient's life. One would predict that if the +abduction experience were the product of delusional or other psychotic states, +it would be possible to detect such evidence through the clinical and +psychometric tools available to us. + + This points to the first important discrepancy: individuals +claiming alien abduction frequently show no evidence of past or present +psychosis, delusional thinking, reality-testing deficits, hallucinations or +other significant psychopathology despite extensive clinical evaluation. +Instead, there is a conspicuous absence of psychopathology of the magnitude +necessary to account for the production of floridly delusional and presumably +psychotic material.(2) + + In order to test this startling and anomalous information, a group of +subjects who believe they have been abducted by aliens (9, 5 male, 4 female) +were asked to participate in a psychometric evaluation. An experienced +clinical psychologist carried out an investigation using projection tests +(Rorschach, TAT, Draw a Person and the MMPI) and the Wechler Adult +Intelligence Scale. The examining clinician was told "the subjects were being +evaluated to determine similarities and differences in personality structure, +as well as psychological strengths and weaknesses". All of the subjects +actively refrained from sharing UFO-related experiences with the examiner and +she was unaware of this theme in their lives. + + The investigator found that commonalties were not strongly present and +that: + "while the subjects are quite heterogeneous in their + personality styles, there is a modicum of homogeneity + in several respects: (1) relatively high intelligence + with concomitant richness of inner life; (2) relative + weakness in the sense of identity, especially sexual + identity; (3) concomitant vulnerability in the inter- + personal realm; (4) a certain orientation towards + alertness which is manifest alternately in a certain + perceptual sophistication and awareness or in inter- + personal hyper-vigilance and caution.... Perhaps the + most obvious and prominent impression left by the + nine subjects is the range of personality styles + the present.... There is little to unite them as a + group from the standpoint of the overt manifestations + of their personalities.... They [are] very distinctive + unusual and interesting subjects. [But] "Along with + above average intelligence, richness in mental life, + and indications of narcissistic identity disturbance, + the nine subjects also share some degree of impair- + ment in personal relationships. For [some] subjects, + problems in intimacy are manifest more in great + sensitivity to injury and loss than in lack of + intimacy and relatedness. [Ad] "...The last salient + dimension of impairment in the interpersonal realm + relates to a certain mildly paranoid and disturbing + streak in many of the subjects, which renders them + very wary and cautious about involving themselves + with others. It is significant that all but one of + the subjects had modest elevations on the MMPI paranoia + scale relative to their other scores. Such modest + elevations mean that we are not dealing with blatant + paranoid symptomology but rather over-sensitivity, + defensiveness and fear of criticism and susceptibility + to feeling pressured. To summarize, while this is a + heterogeneous group in terms of overt personality style, + it can be said that most of its members share being + rather unusual and very interesting. They also share + brighter than average intelligence and a certain rich- + ness of inner life that can operate favorably in terms + of creativity or disadvantageously to the extent that + it can be overwhelming. Shared underlying emotional + factors include a degree of identity disturbance, some + deficits in the interpersonal sphere, and generally + mild paranoia phenomena (hypersensitivity, wariness, + etc.)" (3) + + Her findings demonstrate a uniform lack of the significant +psychopathology which would be necessary to account for these experiences if +abduction experiences do represent the psychotic or delusional states +predicted by current theory. + + When the examiner was informed of the true reason for the selection of +the subjects for this evaluation (i.e., their shared belief that they had been +exposed to alien abductions), she wrote an addendum to the original report re- +examining the findings of the testing in the light of the new data. In it she +states: + "The first and most critical question is whether our + subjects' reported experiences could be accounted + for strictly on the basis of psychopathy, i.e., mental + disorder. The answer is a firm no. In broad terms, + if the reported abductions were confabulated fantasy + productions, based on what we know about psychological + disorders, they could only have come from pathological + liars, paranoid schizophrenics, and severely disturbed + and extraordinarily rare hysteroid characters subject + to fugue states and/or multiple personality shifts... + It is important to note that not one of the subjects, + based on test data, falls into any of these categories. + Therefore, while testing can do nothing to prove the + veracity of the UFO abduction reports, one can conclude + that the test findings are not inconsistent with the + possibility that reported UFO abductions have, in fact, + occurred. In other words, there is no apparent + psychological explanation for their reports." (4) + + 2. CONCORDANCE OF REPORTED DATA: The second point of +intriguing discrepancy follows from this surprising absence of evidence +of a common thread of severe and reality-distorting psychopathology to +account for the patient's bizarre assertions. They claim that they have +been abducted, sometimes repeatedly over nearly the whole course of their +lives, by aliens who have communicated with them and carried out procedures +much like medical examinations. Persons reporting these experiences are seen +to be psycho-dynamically varied. They are also demographically varied. +Reports of this basic scenario, numbering in the hundreds, have now been +recorded. Even though the reporters range from individuals as diverse as a +mestizo Brazilian farmer(5),an American corporate lawyer (6), and a Mid- +Western minister(7), there is a perplexing and intriguing concordance of +features in these reports. Certain details of the scenarios repeat themselves +with disturbing regularity no matter what the educational, national, social, +experiential or other demographic characteristics of the reporter. In the +production of dreams, reveries, poetry, fantasies and psychotic states, while +the general themes of concern may be identified easily between individuals, +the specific symbolization, concretion, abstraction and representation of +those themes is relatively indiosyncratic for each individual. This of course +necessitates careful empathic and attentive listening on the clinician's part +to gather both the general flavor and specific meaning of the elements of the +fantasy state. This careful listening often means that a personal symbolic +representational system can be unraveled and its contents can be rendered less +mysterious to the patient. In the abduction scenarios however, both specific +details and themes repeat themselves with surprising regularity: In general, +the appearance and modus operandi of the aliens, their effect and procedures, +their tools and interests, their crafts and physical features all tally from +report to report with a high rate of concordance. (8,9,10) This intriguing +fact seems impervious to the socio-economic, educational, national, or +cultural background of the abductee. Similarly, whether the individual has +had previous contact with the literature of abduction seems to make little +difference in this vein since the reports of individuals who can be shown to +have had no exposure to abduction literature also contains these common +features. Skilled practitioners and investigators report in these cases that +they are convinced that each of these subjects was being wholly truthful in +his/her report. + + The concordance of both content and event in these reports makes +them unlike any other fantasy-generated material with which I am familiar. +Indeed, investigators like Hopkins and others claim they have intentionally +withheld dissemination of certain important, frequently reported aspects of +the abduction scenarios in order to provide a "check" on the material being +presented to them by individuals who may have had access to this literature +since abductees may have been influenced at either the conscious or the +unconscious level by it. In these cases as well, the features which have +previously been published as well as those withheld are both produced by the +abductee (11). In instances in which the patient has read some of the +abductee literature, this previously withheld material may be offered to the +investigator with a sense of personal invalidation, apology and embarrassment. +He often expresses concern that this information is less likely to be +believed than the other material with which he is already familiar. (12) + + Jung and others have written widely about the use of archetypes +and the collective awareness of themes and images which are asserted to +present themselves in a world-wide and multi-personal way. The amount of +individual variation and creative latitude demonstrated within the closed +system of archetypes and collected creativity is vast. Those who pose such +universals detect their presence in the complex and highly idiosyncratic +presentations and guises which they are given by the unconscious mind of the +patient and the artist. This disguise is idiosyncratic, they hold, precisely +because a set of available images is being used to work and rework the +personal realities of the individual against the background of the collective. +But the abductee does not seem to be involved in the reworking of personal +mythologies against the canvas of the race's mythology. The details and +contents of the scenarios seem, upon extensive investigation, to bear little +thematic relevance to the issues inherent in the life of the abductee. +Intensive follow up investigation frequently yields no thematic, archetypical, +primary process symbolic meaning to the shape or activities of the abductors +and the scenario of the abduction itself. Instead, therapeutic work in these +cases centers around the issues inherent in the powerlessness and +vulnerability of the individual even is this were not a prominent theme in his +life before the putative abduction. In other words, the customary richness of +association and creativity found in the examination of dreams and other +fantasy material is lacking with regard to the scenario and presentation of +the aliens who abduct and manipulate the patient in the abduction story. + + If the abduction material is indeed archetypal or fantasy generated in +nature, this is a new class of archetypes. These archetypes demand rather +exact representation and mythic presentation since the activities and behavior +of the aliens is rather invariant within a narrow latitude regardless of the +other dream and fantasy themes of the patient. + + 3. ABDUCTION SCENARIOS AND HYPNOSIS. Members of both the lay and +professional communities frequently assume that material referring to UFO +abduction scenarios is retrieved under hypnosis. Since it is generally +believed that people under hypnosis are open to the implantation of +suggestions through the overt or covert influence of the hypnotist it is +concluded that this material reproduces the hypnotists' expectations or +interests. It is further concluded that since the hypnotist "put it there" +the abduction could not be accounted for as material which emerges solely from +the patient's end of dyad. + +Thus, the abduction scenarios are commonly dismissed as merely representing +the production of desired material by compliant subjects. The abductees strong +sense of personal conviction that this really happened to him during the +session itself and upon recall of the session is similarly dismissed as an +artifact of the process by which the fantasies were generated. + + Several compelling factors mitigate against the facile dismissal of +data in this way. Firstly, about 20% of these highly concordant abduction +scenarios are available spontaneously at the level of conscious awareness +prior to hypnosis. (13,14) These accounts may be enhanced or subjected to +further elaboration through the use of hypnosis or other recall enhancement +techniques, but in a significant number of people producing abduction +scenarios the recall is initially produced without recourse to such +techniques. If their stories were substantially different from the concordant +abduction scenarios produced under regressive hypnosis, a different phenomenon +would be taking place. + + However, given the perplexing clinical presentation of similar stories +>from dissimilar people who are uninformed about one another's experience, this +presents another highly interesting area of discrepancy. + + Hopkins has classified patterns of abduction recall into five +categories: + + Type 1. patients consciously recall parts of the full abduction +scenario without hypnotic or other techniques designed to aid recall. The +emergence of this material may be delayed. + + Type 2. patients recall the UFO sighting, surrounding circumstances +and/or aliens, but do not recall the abduction itself. Only a perceived gap in +time indicates any anomalous occurrence. + + Type 3. patients recall a UFO and/or hominids but nothing else. +There is no sense of time lapse or dislocation. + + Type 4. patients recall only a time lapse or dislocation. No UFO +abduction scenario is recalled without the use of specific retrieval +techniques. + + Type 5. patients recall noting relating to UFO or abduction +scenarios. Instead they experience discrepant emotions ranging from uneasy +suspicions that "something happened to me" to intense, ego-dystonic fears of +specific locations, conditions or actions. They may also exhibit unexplained +physical wounds and/or recurring dreams of abduction scenario content which +are not fixed in their experience as to place and time. (15) + + Examination of the transcripts of hypnotic sessions which yield +abduction material reveals that although subjects are sufficiently +suggestible to enter the trance state as directed by the therapist, they +resist having material "injected" into their account. They customarily +refuse to be "lead" or distracted by the therapist's attempts to change +either the focus or content of their report. The subject characteristically +insists upon correcting errors or distortions suggested or implied by the +hypnotist during the session. Hence it is difficult to account for the +similarities and concordances of these scenarios through the mechanism of +suggestibility when these subjects so steadfastly refuse to be lead by +hypnotists. + + In fact, it is even more striking that while these patients feel the +material which they are producing both in and out of hypnosis as +experientially "real", nonetheless they frequently seek to discount or +explain away this bizarre and frightening material. This remains true even +though sharing it regularly results in a significant remission of anxiety- +related symptoms and discomfort. These abduction scenarios are so ego-alien +that they have frequently not shared the material with anyone at all or with +only a highly select group of trusted intimates. In the vast preponderance of +cases patients are reluctant to allow themselves to be publicly identified as +having had these experiences since the perceive that the abduction scenario is +so highly anomalous that they expect to experience ridicule and repudiation if +they become associated with it publicly. It therefore functions like a guilty +secret in the way that rape has (and, unfortunately still does in some cases). + + After the material is produced and explored, these subjects often +experience a marked degree of relief. This is true with reference both to +previously identified symptomatic behaviors and other anxiety manifestations +not noted on initial assessment. These other symptoms may remit after +enhanced recall of the scenario and its details takes place. It is +interesting to note that while the scenarios may contain a good deal of highly +traumatic material specifically related to reproductive functioning, these +episodes are nearly uniformly free of subjective erotic charge when either the +manifest or latent contents are examined. + + 4. POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER (PTSD) IN THE ABSENCE OF +EXTERNAL TRAUMA: PTSD was first described in the content of battle +fatigue (16). Although it may present in a wide variety of clinical guises +(17) PTSD is currently understood as a disorder which occurs in the context of +intolerable externally induced trauma which floods the victim with anxiety +and/or depression when his overwhelmed and paralyzed ego defenses prove +inadequate to the task of organizing unbearably stressful events. In the +service of the patient's urgent attempt to still the tides of disorganizing +anxiety, fear or guilt<18> which accompany the emergence of cognitive, sensory +or emotional recall of these traumatic events, the trauma itself may be +either partly or completely unavailable to conscious recall. <19>...Both +physical and psychological responses to the trauma are profound and pervasive. +PTSD follows overwhelming real-life trauma and is not known to present as a +sequel to internally generated fantasy states.<20> + + This fourth area of discrepancy between predicted and observed data is +perhaps the most striking and challenging. Patients who produce alien +abduction material in the absence of psycopathology severe enough to account +for it often show the clinical picture of PTSD. This is remarkable when one +considers that it is possible that no traumatic event occured except that +rooted only in fantasy. These trauma are, in large measure, split off, denied +and repressed as they are in other occurrences of PTSD. + + As discussed above, these scenarios frequently appear in individuals +who are otherwise free of any indication of significant emotional and +psychological instability or pre-existing severe psycopathology. On careful +clinical assessment, these memories do not appear to fill the intrapsychic +niches usually occupied by psychotic or psycho-neurotic formulations. The +abduction scenarios do not encapsulate or ward off unacceptable impulses, they +do not define split off affects, they are not used either +to stabilize or to divert current or archaic patterns of behavior nor do they +provide secondary gain or manipulative control for the individual. + + Instead, this material, experienced by the patient as unwelcome and +totally ego-dystonic, seems quite consistently to be woven into the fabric of +the patient's internal life only in terms of his reactive response to the +stress inherent in these experiences and the contents of the repressed +material related to the stressful memories. But the extent of this secondary +response can be extensive. It should be noted that PTSD has not previously +been thought to occur following trauma which has been generated solely by +internally states. If abduction scenarios are in fact fantasies, then our +understanding of PTSD need to be suitably broadened to account for this +heretofore unexpected correlation. + + In addition, there are significant clinical implications to the +finding of abduction scenario material in a patient who shows PTSD but is +otherwise free of significant psychopathology. Since abduction scenario +material presents several crucial areas of anomaly and discrepancy between +what is known and that which is observed. It is very important for the +therapist to refrain from the comfortable (for the therapist, at least) +description of psychotic functioning to the patient who produces this material +until such disturbance is, in fact, demonstrated and corroborated by the +presence of other signs beside the UFO-related material. It is imperative for +the therapist to adopt a non-judgemental stance. He can attend to the +distress of the patient without attempting to confirm or deny possibilities +which are outside the specific area of his expertise. The clinician should +adopt as his therapeutic priority the alleviation of the PTSD symptomology +through the use of appropriate and acceptable methods specific to the +treatment of PTSD. In addition, the therapist must remember that while he may +have strong convictions pro or con the abduction actually having occurred, it +is not within either his capability or expertise to make such a judgement with +total certainty. Furthermore, as the clinical psychologist who evaluated the +nine abductees pointed out in her addendum, the sophistication of the +psychotherapies has not advanced to the point at which this determination can +be made on the basis of currently available information (21), although the +treatment of post traumatic symptomology is currently understood. Hence, it +is important for the therapist to retain the same non-judgemental and helpful +stance necessary to the successful treatment of any other traumatic insult. +When a therapist labels material as either unacceptable or insane, the +burden of the patient is increased. If the therapist is reacting out of +prejudices which reflect his own closely-held beliefs rather than his +complete certainty, he unfairly increases the distress of the patient. + + SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS: Although it has long been the +"common wisdom" of both the professional and lay communities that anyone +claiming to be the victim of abduction by UFO occupants must be seriously +disturbed, thoroughly deluded or a liar, careful examination of both the +reports and their reports calls this assumption into question. Clinical and +psychometric investigation of abductees reveals four areas of discrepancy +between the expected data and the observable phenomena and suggests further +investigation. These discrepant areas are: + + 1. ABSENCE OF PSYCHOPATHOLOGY An unexpected absence of severe +psychopathology coupled with the high level of functioning found in many +abductees is a perplexing and surprising finding. Psychometric evaluation +of nine abductees revealed a notable heterogeneity of psychological and +psychometric characteristics. The major area of homogeneity was in the +absence of significant psychopathology. Rather than consulting a subset +of the severely disturbed and psychotic population, there is clinical +evidence that at least some abductees are high functioning, healthy +individuals. This interesting discrepancy requires further investigation. + + 2. CONCORDANCE OF REPORTS Highly dissimilar people produce +strikingly similar accounts of abductions by UFO occupants. The basic +scenarios are highly concordant in detail and events. This is surprising in +light of the widely divergent cultural, socio-economic, educational, +occupational, intellectual and emotional status of abductees. Further, the +scenarios themselves do not seem to show the same layering of affect and +symbolic richness present in other fantasy endowed material. Instead, +symbolic and conceptual complexity centers around the meaning of the +experience for the individual, not around the shape, form, activity, intent, +etc., of the aliens and their environment. This is in stark contrast to the +expected complexity and diversity of thematic and symbolic elaboration found +in our fantasy material. + + 3. RESISTANCE TO SUGGESTION UNDER HYPNOSIS Abduction scenario +concordance is frequently attributed to the introduction of material into the +suggestible mind of a hypnotized patient. Examination of abduction reports +indicates that a significant percentage of these reports emerge into conscious +awareness prior to the use of hypnosis or other techniques employed to +stimulate recall. Furthermore abductees resist being lead or diverted during +hypnosis and regularly insist on correcting the hypnotist so that their report +remains accurate according to their own perceptions. + + 4. PTSD IN THE ABSENCE OF TRAUMA Post Traumatic Stress +Disorder (PTSD) has not been previously reported in patients experiencing +overwhelming stress predicted only in internally generated states such as +psychotic delusional systems or phobias. But patients reporting abduction +frequently show classic signs and symptoms of PTSD. Like other kinds of PTSD +it is subject to clinical intervention which frequently leads to substantial +clinical improvement. But in order for this improvement to occur, the patient +must be treated for the PTSD he exhibits rather than the psychotic state he is +presumed to display by virtue of his abduction report. If the abduction +scenarios represent only a fantasy state, then it is worth investigating why +(and how) this particular highly concordant and deeply disturbing fantasy is +involved in the pathogenesis of a condition otherwise seen only following +externally induced trauma. Further, if this is found to be the case, the +nature of PTSD itself should be re-examined in light of this finding. +Alternatively, it may be that the trauma is, in fact, an external one which +has taken place and the post traumatic state represents an expected response +on the part of a traumatized patient. + + It is not within the area of expertise of the clinician to make an +accurate determination about the objective validity of UFO abduction events. +But it is certainly within his purview to assist the patient in regaining a +sense of appropriate mastery, anxiety reduction and the alleviation of the +clinical symptomalogy as efficiently and effectively as possible. This is +best accomplished through an assessment the patient's *actual* state of +psycho-dynamic organization, not his *presumed* state. In other words, in +order to make the diagnosis of a psychotic or delusional state, findings other +than the presence of a belief in UFO abduction must be present. In the +absence of other indications of severe psychopathology, it is inappropriate to +treat the patient as if he were afflicted with such psychopathology. It lies +outside the realm of clinical expertise to determine with absolute certainty +whether or not a UFO abduction has indeed taken place. Patients should not be +viewed as demonstrating prima facie evidence of pervasive psychotic +dysfunction because of the abduction material alone nor should they be +hospitalized or treated with anti-psychotic medication based solely on the +presence of UFO abduction scenarios. Instead, they should be assessed on the +basis of their overall psychologic state. Unless otherwise indicated, +treatment should be focused on the PTSD symptomatology and its repair. + + The areas of discrepancy which arise from the examination of UFO +abductees between the expected clinical finding and the observed ones +highlight interesting questions which require further investigation into +the nature and impact of fantasy on psycho-dynamic states and symptom +formation. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(1)Westrum, R., Social Intelligence About Hidden Events, +Knowledge:Creation, Diffusion, Utilization, Vol 3 No 3, +March 1982, p.382 +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(2)Hopkins, B. Missing Time: A Documented Study of UFO Abductions. +New York, Richard Marek 1981. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(3)Slater, E., Ph.D. "Conclusions on Nine Psychologicals" in +Final Report on the Psychological Testing of UFO Abductees" +Mt Ranier, MD, 1985 +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(4)Slater, E., Ph.D. Addendum to "Conclusions on Nine Psychological" +in Final Report on the Psychological Testing of UFO "Abductees", op.cit. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(5)Creighton, G. "The Amazing Case of Antonio Villas Boas" in +Rogo, D>S>, ed., Alien Abductions. New York, New American +Library, pp. 51-83, 1980. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(6)Hopkins,B. Missing Time: A Documented Study of UFO Abductions. op.cit. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(7)Druffel,A. "Harrison Bailey and the 'Flying Saucer Disease'" in +Rogo, S.D., ed., op.cit. pp. 122-137 +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(8)Strieber, W. Communion. New York, Avon, 1987 +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(9)Fowler, R. The Andreasson Affair. New York, Bantam Books, 1979 +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +(10)Fuller, J. The Interrupted Journey. New York, Dell, 1966 +--------------------------------------- +(11)Hopkins, B. Intruders: The Incredible Visitation at Copley Woods. +New York, Random House, 1987 +-------------------------------------- +(12)Hopkins, B. Personal communications with the author about the more +than 200 abductees whom Mr. Hopkins has investigated both with and +without the use of hypnosis. +--------------------------------------- +(13)Westrum, R. personal communication with the author. +--------------------------------------- +(14)Hopkins, B. personal communication with the author. +--------------------------------------- +(15)Hopkins, B. "The Investigation of UFO Reports" in The Spectrum +of UFO Research. Proceedings of the Second CUFOS Conference +(September 25-27, 1981), Hynek, M. ed., pp 171-2, Chicago, +J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies, 1988. +--------------------------------------- +(16)Kardiner, A., The Traumatic Neuroses of War. New York, +P. Hoeber, 1941 +--------------------------------------- +(17)van Der Kolk, B.A., Psychological Trauma. Washington, DC, American +Psychiatric Press, 1987 +--------------------------------------- +(18)Horowitz,M.J., Stress Response Syndromes. New York, Jason Aronson,1976 +--------------------------------------- +(19)van Der Kolk, op.cit. +--------------------------------------- +(20)American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual +of Mental Disorders, 3rd ed. Washington, DC, +American Psychiatric Association, 1980 +--------------------------------------- +(21)Slater, op.cit. +--------------------------------------- + +EOF + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2816.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2816.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3d9fe781 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2816.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,559 @@ +SUBJECT: BIBLIORAPHICAL UPDATE ON CROP CIRCLES FILE: UFO2816 + + + + + + + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +This information is presented for your persusal and is a continuation +of my policy of informing the public what is currently available. As +usual my *disclaimer* is simply to present the data and let you form +your own opinion(s). Please feel free to agree,disagree,discuss or +ponder :-) + +As I do not have a great amount of time available to pursue follow-ups +exclusively, comments to me should be directed to dona@bilver.uucp +in mail. +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +------Begin Included Text ------------------------------------------- + + + + + Circles of Note: Bibliography on the Crop Circles + Updated June 9, 1991 + + Michael Chorost + + Bibliographies always look rather dry. However, a careful reader +can learn much from this one, since many of the entries have parentheti- +cal summaries attached to them. Also, a close look at the topics will +reveal the diversity of the crop circles phenomenon and the responses it +has gathered. Finally, the sections on books, magazines, and studies +include price and ordering information, where known. + + I should note two sets of exclusions. First, I have not indexed +articles from journals devoted to cerealogy. Much of the best information +has been printed in their pages; back numbers can often be obtained by +writing to the editors. Second, I have tended to include newspaper arti- +cles only of particular interest or informativeness, such as ones reporting +circles in detail, non-English circles, or noteworthy points of view. + + Inclusion in this bibliography does not imply endorsement. + + I am indebted to my contacts and colleagues in England, Canada, +and the United States, who generously sent me many of the articles listed +here. I would be grateful to receive any corrections and additions, which +will be included in future updates. Contact me at: + + Michael Chorost + North American Circle + P.O. Box 61144 + Durham, NC 27715-1144 + + +All items listed alphabetically by author. + +Books + +Circular Evidence. Pat Delgado and Colin Andrews. London: Bloomsbury +Press, 1989. 190 pp. US price $29.95 hardcover, $14.95 softcover. At +least three sources: (1) Phanes Press, P.O. Box 6114, Grand Rapids, MI +49516, tel. (800) 678-0392. (2) Arcturus Book Services, P.O. Box 831383, +Stone Mountain, Georgia, 30083-0023, tel. (404) 297-4624. (3) Trafalgar +Square, Vermont, NY, tel. (802) 457-1911. + +Crop Circles: The Latest Evidence. Pat Delgado and Colin Andrews. +London: Bloomsbury Press, 1990. 80 pp. UK L5.99, US $13.95. Ordering +information as above. + +The Controversy of the Circles. Paul Fuller and Jenny Randles. UK +L4.20. BUFORA, 103 Hove Avenue, Walthamstow, London. + +Crop Circles: A Mystery Solved. Paul Fuller and Jenny Randles. London: +Robert Hale Ltd, 1990, 250 pp. UK L13.95, US $30.95 (from Arcturus Books, +see entry for Circular Evidence above.) + +The UFO Report 1990. Edited by Timothy Good. Sidgwick & Jackson, + + +1990. See "The Celtic Cross", p. 91-94. + +The Circles Effect and Its Mysteries. George Terence Meaden. Bradford- +on-Avon: Artetech Publishing Company, April 1990 (2nd ed.) 116 pp. UK +L11.95. Order from Artetech, 54 Frome Road, Bradford-on-Avon, BA15 1LD; +tel. 02216 2482. + +Proceedings of the First International Conference on the Circles Effect. +Edited by George Terence Meaden and Derek Elsom. Copyright TORRO- +CERES (Tornado and Storm Research Organization-Circles Effect Research +Group). 134pp. Conference held at Oxford Polytechnic on June 23, 1990. +Available from Artetech (see previous item) at UK L10. + +Circles From The Sky. Edited by George Terence Meaden. The expanded, +hardcover edition of the Proceedings (see previous item.) 208 pp. UK +L14.99 from Souvenir Press, 43 Great Russell Street, London WC1B 3PA. + +The Crop Circle Enigma. Edited by Ralph Noyes. Bath: Gateway Books, +1990. 192 pp. $29.95 (note price increase.) At least four sources: (1) +The Great Tradition, 11270 Clayton Creek Road, P.O. Box 108, Lower Lake, +CA 95457, tel. (707) 995-3906. (2) New Leaf Book Distributing Co, 5425 +Tulane Drive SW, Atlanta, GA 30336-2323, tel. (404) 691-6996. (3) Inland +Book Co, P.O. Box 261, East Haven, CT 06512, tel. (203) 467-4257. (4) +Bookpeople, 2929 Fifth Street, Berkeley, CA 94710, tel. (415) 549-3030. + +Physical Traces Associated With UFO Sightings. Compiled by Ted Phillips, +edited by Mimi Hynek. Northfield, Illinois: Center for UFO Studies, 1975. + +The Natural History of Stafford-shire. Robert Plott (spelled "Plot" on title +page.) Oxford, 1686. (Pages 7-21 describe what may be 17th-century +fairy rings or crop circles.) + +Passport to Magonia. Jacques Vallee. Chicago: Henry Regnery Co, 1969. +(See "Rings In The Moonlight", pp. 31-39, on "UFO nests.") + +Periodicals + +Circles Phenomenon Research (CPR) Newsletter. Editor: Pat Delgado. 1- +year subscription (4 issues) $24.00 (but price may be reduced; write for +current information.) CPR Satellite Office, 117 Ashland Lane, Aurora, OH +44202. Make checks payable to D.S. Rulison. (Sympathetic to theories of +non-human intelligence.) + +UFO Newsclipping Service. Editor: Lucius Farish. 1-year subscription (12 +issues) $55. Route 1, Box 220, Plumerville, Arkansas 72127. (Excellent +source for newspaper reports of crop circles worldwide.) + +The Crop Watcher. Editor: Paul Fuller. 1-year subscription (6 issues) UK +L13.00 (overseas airmail price.) 3 Selborne Court, Tavistock Close, Romsey, +Hampshire SO51 7TY, England. (Sympathetic to the meteorological theory.) + +The Circular. Editor: Bob Kingsley. 1-year subscription (4 issues) in- +cluded with membership in CCCS (Centre for Crop Circle Studies.) Over- +seas membership UK L15, US $33. Payable Visa/Access/Mastercard/Euro- +card. Write to Specialist Knowledge Services, St. Aldhelm, 20 Paul Street, +Frome, Somerset BA 11 1DX, U.K., or call (0373) 51777. + +Journal of Meteorology. Editor: George Terence Meaden. 1-year overseas +subscription (10 issues) UK L55 surface, L65 airmail. 54 Frome Road, +Bradford-on-Avon, Wiltshire, BA15 1LD, England. (The bastion of the +meteorological theory.) + +The Cerealogist. Editor: John Michell. 1-year subscription (3 issues) +L7.50, US $18.00. Payable Visa/Access/Mastercard/Eurocard. Write to +Specialist Knowledge Services, St. Aldhelm, 20 Paul Street, Frome, Somerset +BA 11 1DX, U.K., or call (0373) 51777. (Closely associated with the CCCS. +Eclectic approach.) + +The Swamp Gas Journal. Editor: Chris Rutkowski. For subscription +information, write to the editor at Box 1918, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada +R3C 3R2. (Loosely associated with NAICCR--see "Studies"; runs stories on +Canadian crop circles.) + +Mufon UFO Journal. Editor: Dennis Stacy. 1-year subscription (12 issues) +$25. 103 Oldtowne Road, Seguin, Texas 78155-4099. (Frequently runs +articles on crop circles, particularly North American ones.) + +Articles + +"Midwest Crop Circles." Erich A. Aggen, Jr. Mufon UFO Journal, no. 272 +(December 1990), pp. 15-16. (Irregular crop circles near Odessa, +Missouri.) + +"Circular Evidence." Colin Andrews. Mufon UFO Journal, no. 243 (July +1988), pp. 11-13. (Discussion of several 1987 formations.) + +"Major Increase in Mystery Circles." Colin Andrews. Kindred Spirit (UK) +vol 1 no. 5 (Winter 1988-89) pp. 27-28. + +"Crop Circles Appear in the U.S.S.R." Walt Andrus. Mufon UFO Journal, +no. 270 (October 1990), p. 13. (Oval, 35 by 45 meters; Krasnodar region.) + +"The Thumb Prints of the Gods?" Anonymous. U.S. News & World Report, +Sept. 11, 1989. (Short item.) + +"Prepare to Meet Thy Drought." Anonymous. Today, July 20, 1990. +(Suggests the multiple pictograms resemble the Sumerian language or +weather-map symbols.) + +"Mystery Circles in Fukuoka." Anonymous. Asahi Evening News (Tokyo), +Sept. 28, 1990. (Two circles 12 km. E of Fukuoka City, Japan, found Sept. +17, 1990.) + +"More Circular Evidence." Richard Beaumont. Kindred Spirit, vol. 1, no. +8, pp. 25-28. (Interview with Colin Andrews. Discusses electrical, psy- +chic, and historical events associated with the circles.) + +"Crop Circles: The Mystery Deepens." Richard Beaumont. Kindred Spirit, +vol. 1, no. 12, pp. 32-37. (Summary of the key developments of the +Summer 1990 season, with aerial photos.) + +"The English 'Circles' Mystery." Jon Erik Beckjord. UFO vol. 5, no. 6 +(probably late 1990), pp. 9-13, 39. (Discusses personal visit to several +formations.) + +"Possible Physical Mechanism for Producing Crop Circles." John Branden- +burg. Mufon UFO Journal, no. 276 (April 1991), pp. 10-11. (Suggests +microwave beams are responsible for flattening plants.) + +"UFO Report to Farmers." George Brandsberg. Farm Profit, July-August +1975. (Discusses scorched patches and long swathes of sliced-off corn.) + +"The Summer 1990 Crop Circles." Michael Chorost and Colin Andrews. +Mufon UFO Journal, no. 272 (December 1990), pp. 3-14. (Layering of +crops, EM effects, possibility of language. 10 photos, 3 diagrams.) + +"Circles of Note: A Continuing Bibliography." Michael Chorost. Mufon UFO +Journal, no. 276 (April 1991), pp. 14-17. (This bibliography, as of April +1991.) + +"Theses for a Pre-Paradigm Science: Cereology." Michael Chorost. To be +published in Mufon conference proceedings, July 1991. (Current state of +cereology; further theorizing on language hypothesis.) + +"Erasmus Darwin on Cropfield Circles in 1789?: The Fairy-Ring +Connection." Mark Chorvinsky. Strange Magazine no. 6 (date unknown; +probably late 1990), p. 32. (Reprints Darwin's discussion of odd fairy- +rings; it is quite similar to Plott's account--see "Books.") + +"UFO Mania Hits Odessa: Circles In Field Create Media Interest." Carol +Conrow. The Odessan (Odessa, Missouri), September 20, 1990, pp. 2-3. +(Discussion of Odessa crop circle in a field of sorghum.) + +"Circles in Lowe Fields Stir Interest Across Nation." Carol Conrow. The +Odessan (Odessa, Missouri), September 27, 1990. + +"The Whippingham Ground Effects." Leonard G. Cramp. Flying Saucer +Review, vol. 14, no. 3 (May/June 1968). (Extensive documentation of +straight and circular plant flattenings correlated with a reported UFO +sighting on July 10, 1967, near Newport, Isle of Wight.) + +"The Circles: England's Greatest Unsolved Mystery." Sean Devney. UFO +Universe, July 1990, pp. 30-59. (Discussion of possible relationship to +Stonehenge.) + +"Around and Around in Circles." Sally B. Donnelly. Time Magazine. Sept. +18, 1989, p.50. Letters of response in Oct. 9th issue, p. 14. (Overview of +the phenomenon; three color pictures.) + +"Ever-Increasing Circles." Elisabeth Dunn. Telegraph Weekend Magazine +(UK), July 8, 1989, pp. 24-28. (Basic overview; good photographs.) + +"Magical Mystery Tour." John Eccles. Sussex Express (UK), August 3, +1990. (Formation on Milton Street Farm, near Wilmington Priory.) + +"Logic Flattens 'Corn Circle' Theories." James Erlichmann. Guardian (UK), +July 6, 1990, p. 24. (Reports Robert Cory's theory: "The phenomenon is +caused by the old-fashioned circular irrigation machine.") + +"El Enigma Que Cayo Del Cielo." Hilary Evans. Ano Cero no. 2 (September +1990), pp. 50-55. + +"Mysterious Circles in British Fields Spook the Populace." Craig Forman. +Wall Street Journal, Aug 28, 1989, p. A1. (Basic overview.) + +"Squaring The Circles of Alien Visitors." Nigel Fountain. Guardian (UK), +August 1, 1990, p. 36. (Humor: "Stuff fluid dynamics, I want some +aliens.") + +"Mystery Circles: Myth in the Making." Paul Fuller. International UFO +Reporter, May/June 1988, p. 4-8. (Supports meteorological theory; +presents two eyewitness cases of whirlwinds.) + +"Weird Circles Puzzle Britons." Jacqui Goddard. The High Plains Journal +(Dodge City, Kansas), September 11, 1989, p. B1. (Basic overview.) + +"Circles Run Rings Around Experts." Timothy Good. Hampshire Chronicle +(UK), Aug. 4, 1989. (Basic overview.) + +"Circles in the fields inspire talk of UFO's." Maria Goodavage. USA Today, +November 15, 1990, p. 6A. (Short discussion of double-dumbbells.) + +"Daylight Close Encounter." Stan Gordon. MUFON UFO Journal, July 1989, +pp. 18-21. (Discusses Pennsylvania UFO sighting and related circular +landing trace.) + +"Retrospective Investigation of a Possible Trace at Mt. Garnet". Holly +Goriss and Russell Boundy. UFO Research Australia Newsletter, March- +April 1981 (Vol 2. No. 2) pp. 4-6. (Investigates a 1977 ground marking +which looks like a crude quintuplet.) + +"Farmer's Amazing Find in Cornfield." Richard Green. Chase Post (Lich- +field, UK), Aug. 9, 1990. (Chorley, Lichfield "cross" formation.) + +"Crop Circles Create Rounds of Confusion." Wendy Grossman. Skeptical +Inquirer, vol. 14 no. 2 (Winter 1990), pp. 117-118. ("A genuine modern +mystery.") + +"The Year of the Vajra." John Haddington. Link Up, Sept-Nov. 1990, p. +4-13. (Suggests dumbbells are Buddhist symbols; discussion of camera +failures.) + +"If It Can't Be Explained, Women Ready To Listen." Bill Harlan. Rapid +City Journal (South Dakota), March 10, 1991. (Report circles in area to +Davina Ryszka of Custer, S.D., (605) 673-2818.) + +"Round and Round They Go: New Crop of Oddities Has British Going in +Circles." Timothy Harper. The Detroit News, Oct. 2, 1989, p. 3A. (Basic +overview.) + +"Going Round in Circles." Andrew Hewitt. Huddersfield Examiner (UK), +August 7, 1990. (Supports vortex theory, dismisses hoax theory.) + +"Taking A Turn Around The Circles." George Hill. The Times (UK), July +27, 1990, p. 16. (Attack on uncritical media approaches to phenomenon.) + +"Beware of the Supernatural." Juliet Hughes. Wiltshire Gazette (UK), +August 9, 1990. ("If the crop circles prove to be meteorological phenome- +na, then all the more glory to God.") + +"England's Puzzling Crop Circles: The Shape of a Mystery." J. Antonio +Huneeus. New York City Tribune, 2 parts: May 3 and 10, 1990 ("Science" +section.) (Discusses history, and hoax and meteorological theories.) + +"A Sighting in Saskatchewan." J. Allen Hynek and Jacques Vallee, in The +Edge of Reality (Appendix A). The Henry Regnery Co., 1975. (Discusses +Canadian UFO sighting and related circular flattened areas.) + +"Experts Can't Square Explanations of Circles." Gregory Jensen. Wash- +ington Times, July 27, 1990. Page A1. (Reports the Blackbird hoax inci- +dent. Photo of one of the pictograms.) + +"Round and Round in Circles." Dianne Kenny. Global Link Up, December +1988/Feb. 1989, pp. 4-7. (Overview, theories.) + +"Corn Circles and an Artful Explanation." Miles Kington. The Independ- +ent (UK), Sept. 5, 1990, p. 20. (Humor: "I would surmise that Wiltshire is +a very out-of-town gallery for some galaxy.") + +"A Rare Circle for Skeptics." Marek Kohn. Weekend Guardian (UK), Aug. +18, 1990, p. 17. (Skeptical discussion of the phenomenon.) + +"The Corn Circles Riddle." Idina Le Geyt. Share International vol 9, no. +3 (April 1990), pp. 17-19. (Focuses on paranormal events associated with +the circles.) + +"Spherical Sounds? Zounds!" Eugenia Macer-Story. Mufon UFO Journal, +April 1991, pp. 12-13. + +"Strange Sighting at Silbury Hill." Richard Martin. Kindred Spirit (UK), +vol 1 no. 5 (Winter 1988-89), pp. 26-27. (Glowing lights associated with +circles.) + +"Mysterious Ring in Field Gets Plenty of Attention." Tom McCoag. +Chronicle Herald (Halifax, Canada), April 22, 1991, p. A1. (Early 1991 +formation in Amherst, Nova Scotia; 30-foot dia. ring, 12 inches wide.) + +"More Puzzling Circles Found in Fields." Donna McGuire and Eric Adler. +Kansas City Star, September 21, 1990, p A1. (Map locates seven circles in +Kansas City region; discusses microburst theory.) + +"Circles in the corn." Terence Meaden. New Scientist, June 23, 1990, 47- +9. (Argues for the plasma vortex theory.) + +"The Beckhampton 'Scroll-Type' Circles, The Beckhampton 'Triangle', and + +Strange Attractors." G. Terence Meaden, Journal of Meteorology (Trow- +bridge, U.K.), October 1990, pp. 317-320. ("The triangle is nothing other +than an imperfect circle." Useful for discussion of luminous tubes and +diagram of a scroll.) + +"Crop Circles Explained???" Ernest P. Moyer. Insight, Sept. 24, 1990; +reprinted in Focus, December 31, 1990, p. 16. (Translates one double- +dumbbell to mean "Khawah", or "Eve, the life-giver.") + +"And Now...Cornfield Circles in Australia!" Paul Norman. Flying Saucer +Review, vol. 35, no. 1 (March Quarter, 1990), pp. 7-8. (Briefly discusses +nine 1980's crop circles in Beulah, Victoria, between 3 and 16 feet in +diameter.) + +"And More Cornfield Circles in Canada." Paul Norman. Flying Saucer +Review, vol. 35, no. 1 (March Quarter, 1990), pp. 8-9. (Briefly discusses +1989 circles between 6 and 24 meters in diameter in Manitoba; 2 photos.) + +"Crop Revolution 10 Years On." Ralph Noyes. Country Life, July 6, 1989, +pp. 102-103. (Discusses White Crow, 1989's surveillance experiment.) + +"Circular Arguments." Ralph Noyes. Mufon UFO Journal no. 258 (October +1989), pp. 16-18. (Discusses books, meteorological theory.) + +"Farmers Fear Mysterious Vicious Circle." Nick Nuttall. The London +Times, June 23, 1990, p. 4. (Oxford Polytechnic conference.) + +"L10,000 Reward." Terry O'Hanlon. Sunday Mirror (UK), July 22, 1990. +(Mirror offers reward for solution of mystery.) + +"Mysterious Circles." Andrew Phillips. Macleans, Aug. 13, 1990, pp. 46-47. +(Short overview.) + +"The Hertfordshire 'Mowing Devil' Woodcut: A 17th Century Circle Report?" +Jenny Randles. UFO Times, no. 5 (January 1990), pp. 30-32. (Presents a +1678 woodcut showing a devil "mowing" a pattern which Randles suggests +may be a crop circle.) + +"Shedding New Light on Mystery Crop Circles." Ross Reyburn. Birming- +ham Post (UK), August 16, 1990. (Interview with Jenny Randles.) + +"Scientist Tells How He Squared A Corn Circle." Amit Roy. The Sunday +Times (UK), July 1, 1990, p. 4. (Discussion of meteorological theory.) + +"Swirled Landing Trace?" Carol and Rex Salisberry. MUFON UFO Journal, +no. 264 (April 1990), pp. 3-7. (A Gulf Breeze crop circle.) + +"Measuring the Circles." Michael T. Shoemaker. Strange Magazine no. 6 +(date unknown; probably late 1990), pp. 34-35, 56-57. (Critical review of +current theories.) + +"Did They Have Visitors?" Richard Simon. Fate, vol. 44, no. 2 (February +1991), pp. 66-69. (46-foot circle in shallow grass, Millersburg, Ohio.) + +"The Crop Circle Mystery." A. Robert Smith. Venture Inward, Jan/Feb +1991, pp. 12-16. + +"Unidentified Farm Object Shakes State." Wes Smith. Chicago Tribune, +October 28, 1990, p.1. Reprinted as "Illinois Aflutter Over Unidentified +Farm Object" in Austin American-Statesman (Austin, Texas), November 14, +1990, p. D10. (Discusses 1990 crop circle in Milan, Illinois.) + +"Field Of Dreams?" Dava Sobel. Omni, December 1990, pp. 59-67,121-128. +(Extended overview, slanted toward meteorological theory; many photo- +graphs.) + +"Graffiti of the Gods?" Dennis Stacy. New Age Journal, Jan/Feb. 1991, +pp. 38-44, 103. (Extended overview, more balanced than Omni article; +many photographs.) + +"River, Lake, and Creek." Michael Strainic. Mufon UFO Journal, March +1990, pp. 10-14. (Circles and UFO reports in British Columbia.) + +"Corn Circle Experts in Plea for Action." Chris Tate. Salisbury Journal +(UK), July 27, 1989, p. 4. (British government not discussing the phe- +nomenon.) + +"Hoping Some Furry Little Creatures Crop Up." Calvin Trillin. Syndicat- +ed newspaper column, August 13, 1990. (A humorous look at the circles.) + +"Did a UFO Visit This Farm?" Lon Tonneson. Dakota Farmer, October +1990, p. 9. (Early Aug. 1990 "reversed question mark" in Leola, S.D.) + +"Anatomy of a Corny Hoax." Simon Trump and Bill Mouland. Today (UK), +July 26, 1990, pp. 24-25. (Chronology of the Blackbird hoax.) + +"Proposed Physical Measurements of Crop Circles." Michael Wales. Mufon +UFO Journal, March 1991, pp. 15, 23. (Suggestions for instrumented re- +search.) + +Multiple stories, multiple authors, Fortean Times, issues 53 (Winter +1989/90) and 55 (sorry, date not known.) Issue 53 is entirely devoted to +the phenomenon, with articles by Bob Skinner, John Michell, Ralph Noyes, +G. Terence Meaden, Hilary Evans, and Bob Rickard. Issue 55 contains an +update, pp. 7-13, on 1989-1990 formations outside of Wiltshire. + +"Das Ratsel im Roggen." Stern, #38 (Sept/Oct 1989), p. 250-1. + +"Ein Phanomen Zieht Kreise." Esotera, December 12, 1989, p. 52-57. + +"Los misteriosos y polemicos circulos aparecidos en los campos del Sur de +Inglaterra." !Hola!, date ?, p. 134-140. + +Reviews + +"Crop Circles in North America: The NAICCR Report." Michael Chorost. +Mufon UFO Journal, June 1991. + +"A Crop of Circles." Circular Evidence and The Circles Effect and its +Mysteries. Derek Elsom. New Scientist, July 29, 1989, p. 58. + +"They Never Yet Could Find My Measure." The Crop Circle Enigma. +Wendy Grossman. New Scientist, December 1, 1990, pp. 61-2. + +Crop Circles: The Latest Evidence. Jerrold R. Johnson. Mufon UFO +Journal, March 1991, pp. 17-18, 23. + +The Circles Effect and Its Mysteries, Circular Evidence, and Controversy +of the Circles. Ralph Noyes. Journal of the Society for Psychical Re- +search, vol. 56, no. 820 (July 1990), pp. 235-237. + +The Crop Circle Enigma. Dennis Stacy. Mufon UFO Journal, March 1991, +pp. 16-17. + +"Field Events." Circular Evidence. Alexander Urquhart. Times Literary +Supplement, August 4, 1989, p. 845. + +Studies + +"Circles Investigation." Colin Andrews. Released 1986. 19 pp. Presents +some data for the years 1975-1986, primarily dates and approximate loca- +tions. Discusses hoax theory and circles' relationship to tramlines. Cir- +cles Phenomenon Research, 57 Salisbury Road, Andover, Hampshire SP10 +2LL, UK. + +"A Sample Survey of the Incidence of Geometrically-Shaped Crop Damage." +Paul Fuller. Copyright 1988. 41 pp. Commissioned by BUFORA and +TORRO. + +"North American Crop Circles and Related Physical Traces in 1990." Re- +leased February 1991. 18pp. Conducted by NAICCR (North American Insti- +tute for Crop Circle Research.) Presents data for 45 North American cases +in 1990, about 30 of which appear to be English-style crop circles. +NAICCR, 649 Silverstone Avenue, Winnipeg, Manitoba R3T 2V8, Canada. + +Television +(My thanks to Richard Benham and Paul Hicks for this information.) + +Good Morning America--May 9, July 24, July 25, July 26 (all 1990). Cover- +age of the Blackbird surveillance operation and the hoax of July 24, 1990. + +ABC Evening News--July 19, 1990. Coverage of double-dumbbells. + +CBS Evening News--July 25, 1990. Coverage of Blackbird hoax. + +Unsolved Mysteries--January 31, 1990. Overview of phenomenon and 1989 +events. Reshown with update on September 12, 1990. + +A Current Affair--August 27 and September 14, 1990. Latter show dis- +cusses Canadian crop circles and interviews Whitley Streiber about them. + +Inside Edition--March 5, 1990. + +20/20--September 21, 1990; 10-minute segment. + + +Miscellaneous + +The Skyland bulletin board (Asheville, N.C.) has inaugurated an NACIRCLE +conference (#14.) Contains an online version of Mufon's December 1990 +article by Chorost and Andrews, and a copy of this bibliography (which +will be updated regularly.) Sysop: Michael Havelin. Telephone (704) 254- +7800. 2400 baud, N-8-1. No charge. + +"Out of the Prairie Comes Proof that a Higher Level of Communication Has +Arrived." Advertisement for Procomm Plus 2.0 (Datastorm Technologies +Inc.) Clever depiction of a crop circle shaped like a computer diskette. +Designer: Stephen Monaco. Ran in computer magazines starting Feb-Mar. +1991. + +A recent Led Zeppelin album cover contains a photograph of the first +Alton Barnes double-dumbbell with a zeppelin's shadow over it. + +The Koestler Foundation is offering a reward of L5000 for a documented +explanation of the crop circles. For information, write to The Koestler +Foundation, 484 King's Road, London SW10 OLF. Include a stamped ad- +dressed envelope. + +CD-ROM bibliographic sources are beginning to index articles under "crop +circles. + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- + +EOF + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2817.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2817.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2f116898 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2817.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,658 @@ +SUBJECT: HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTINGS - PHILIP J. IMBROGNO FILE: UFO2817 + + + + + + +The following is Part 1 of the Hudson Valley UFO sightings by +noted author/researcher Philip J.Imbrogno. + +---------Begin Included Text---------------------------------- + + Extraterrestrial Contacts? + -------------------------- + + By: Philip J.Imbrogno + + Are human beings now in contact with some unkown extraterrestrial +intelligence? UFO investigators from all across the country report that the +number of Contact cases has risen over 200% in the last five years! It is +my feeling that there could be something very concrete to this contact +phenomena and we should all take a much more serious attitude toward it. + + Contact In The Hudson Valley + --------------------------- + + During my research in the Northeast section of the United States, I have +found a good number of people you had an continue to have UFO encounters. +Most of these witnesses started out with and ordinary sighting and now +after many UFO related experiences feel they are in contact with the +intelligence behind the UFOs. + + In the Hudson Valley area alone, there has been more than 7,000 reports +of UFOs over the past seven years. To my surprise many people in the area +felt that they had contact with a non-human intelligence from another +world.At first I found these cases strange and a little disturbing since in +most cases this type of report is picked up by the media who attempt to +discredit it by ridiculing the witness. Needless to say this hurts UFOlogy +in general. During the early part of my investigation into the Hudson +Valley Phenomena, I did my best to keep these cases away from the public +eye. The first call of order was to prove that something strange was in the +sky and that the UFO that thousands of people have been seeing is not +something conventional, like "planes in formation". + + + As time went on the cases of contact in the area began to escalate. I +knew then that some of these cases had to be researched. In response to +this, A UFO conference was organized by Peter Gersten and myself. The +conference took place during september of 1987 and the theme was to explore +the possibility that a non-human intelligence was in contact with people in +the area. + + The speakers were Whitley Strieber, Budd Hopkins,John Keel, Ellen +Crystall and myself. At the end of tweleve hours about 900 people attended +and over 200 filled out report forms stating that they thought they had +contact with the UFO intelligence. The actual number really surprised me +greatly, and we were only touching the tip of the iceberg. + +Out of the 200 reports a primilary investigation proved that 120 of them +could be unreliable, so only 90 were selected for study. They are listed +below and broken down into to five categories. + +Type Contact Number +----------- ------- + Abductions 19 + + Channeling 10 + + Entity Communication 15 + + Sighting with telepathy 40 + + CE-III cases only 6 + + + I will clarify each of the above categories below: + +Abduction; Those people who claim to have been taken aboard an alien craft +and meeting the intelligence that operates it. + +Channeling: Those people who claim to be in mental contact with a +non-human or super human intelligence. Most communication is done by +automatic writing,verbally or diagrams. + +Entity Communication: Those who have met a human like or non-human like +being and had verbal or mental face to face communication.In most cases the +person is left with some type of information, but in some cases no +information is exchanged during the contact. + +Sighting With telepathy: a sighting of a UFO in which the witnesses feels +some type of communication is taking place between them and the +intelligence in the UFO. As you can see this made up of the bulk of reports +that I investigated. + +CE-III only: Those people who have encountered a strange being, but no +communication was made. Some time the encounter is near a landed +UFO,sometimes there is no UFO in sight. + + I will now present Two cases studies of contact from my research along +with my findings. It must be remembered that the case studies are very long +and complex,so I will only present the core of the data. + Abductions + ----------- + + The abduction phenomena is wide spread across the country. Pioneer +researchers like Budd Hopkins have brought many cases to light. It was no +surprise to me that when the UFO sightings began in the Hudson Valley that +soon abduction cases would follow. One particular case that was brought to +my attention concerned a computer scientist in his early twenties. To +protect the person identity I shall call him "Ray". + + On March 13 1988 at 10:00 P.M "Ray" was driving home on Route 116 in +Croton Falls, New York. The route is a lonely dark road with no lights with +a large reservoir on his left and woods on the right. He was driving home +>from a friend's home in the area of Croton Falls to his home in New Castle, +New York. + + "Ray" noticed a number of very bright white lights off to his left just +above the reservoir. the lights seemed too low to be a plane and looked +like they were several hundred yards away. The pine trees along the side of +the road partially obstructed his view, so he continued to drive, but +slowly until he came to a clearing. + + He then stopped his car rolled down his window and watched the lights as +they continued to approach. He then pulled himself half way out of the car +through the window and sat on the car door. As he watched the lights, he +noticed that they were connected to some type of very dark structure. There +was no sound from the object and it was about 20 feet above the tree line. +As the UFO passed over his car, he looked up to see this large triangular +object which was about 100 feet from end to end slowly pass over his car. + + He looked up and noticed that the object only had lights in the front and +the underside was in sections and had depth, and receded inward. Inside the +receded area he saw white flashes of light. He compared these flashes with +that of a strobe light. Then something strange took place. The next thing +he knew, he was back in the car and driving down the road and the object +was gone. + + When he got home he found it very hard to sleep. For the next several +days "Ray" would wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat with +his heart pounding feel very confused. He knew somehow that these sudden +episodes of night terror had to do something with the UFO sighting. + + I arranged to have "Ray" hypnotized by Dr. Jean Mundy, a certified +Psychologist who practices in New York City and a well known UFO +researcher. The result of the hypnotic session indicated that "Ray" +experienced an abduction on Route 116 during his sighting.The case is very +long and involved. I will only give a synopsis of the information that was +brought out during that session. + + "Ray's" Abduction + ----------------- + While the object was passing over his car, "Ray" somehow was drawn out of +the car window and into the UFO. He found himself lying on a table in a +dark room. There were several beings standing on each side of him, and the +being next to his left side was moving some type of instrument around his +head. He tried to move but his legs felt paralyzed. Ray described the +beings as typical "greys", that are often described in UFO literature. He +noticed their eyes were round, and not slanted, as often reported. + + One of the beings then inserted something up his nose which caused "Ray" +extreme pain. The feeling he had was as if cotton was being shoved up his +nostril. While remembering this part of the hypnosis "Ray" began to cry out +in pain and his nose began to get red and swell. + + After the insert procedure, "Ray" was allowed to get up. He was escorted +by one of the beings to a control pannel. The being was short and was only +as high as "Ray"'s chest( "Ray" is about five foot 9). At no time was there +any verbal communication, but "Ray" knew where they wanted him to go and +what they wanted him to do. He saw this control pannel which was like a +greyish material with many projections and knobs. He thought that these +might be some type of controls. + + "Ray" then found himself back in his car driving down the road. "Ray" +feels that the beings will someday come back for him and this time he will +not be returned for him. His entire life has changed since the incident. He +feels as if he is in some form of mental contact with the beings that he +met. He feels as if he is gathering information for them. For example "Ray" +may be listening to music, and a voice inside his head will say "Tell us +about this music, how does it make you feel". "Ray" is not able to control +these requests,they can come at any time while he is experiencing something +in his every day life. + + "Ray"'s case is unusual, but not unique when compared to the many cases +that I have investigated in the Hudson Valley. + + Channeling + ----------- + + The channeling phenomenon seems to be a new craze across the country. +When I was approached by individuals who claimed to be in contact with a +super human intelligence, my first response was a negative one. Since 1986 +I have invesigated the claims of at least 40 people who say they are +channeling a higher intelligence that is extraterrestrial in nature.My +research proved to my satisfaction that 90% of these people proved to be in +contact with nothing more than their own imagination.The other 10% are +interesting,but require additional research.From the ten cases, selected +>from the conference data, only one stands out. This person is the only one +that really made me consider that he may be in contact with an intelligence +that is not of this Earth. + + Dean Fagerstrom is a 57 year old resident of Putnam Lake New York. When I +first met Dean in 1982 he was Working as a night watchman. I found Dean +intelligent, articulate and to say the least fascinating. + + As an adult Dean's experiences began in November of 1966 while in the army +stationed in Bad Kreuznach, Germany. He lived down town, about a mile from +the base.One night at two o'clock in the morning while sitting in his +apartment while working on a number sequence for the lottery, he had the +feeling he was not alone. He id not feel alarmed by the awareness, but +curious. Finally he got up and walked around the living room and when he +found no one he returned to his seat where he was working with the numbers +on a white board. As he looked at the white board a human like face began +to appear before his eyes. The face filled up just about all of the two by +three board. As the image got clearer, he saw that it was not one face, but +two. There was a bluish shimmer around the edges of this image,one image +was that of a man wuth tawny hair, not quite shoulder length, and a woman +with slightly darker hair, a little shorter Then he heard a voice close to +his ear identify the names of the beings that he saw. The male gave his +name as" Donestra" and his wife's name as" Kilestra", although he did not +say "wife", but rather "mate". + + This Donestra then told Dean, that Dean has studied many things and they +have been receiving his thought projections because the mind is a powerful +transmitter. Donestra also told Dean that the images he is now seeing are +not real, but holographic projections. Dean was then told that this being +and his mate were amoung thousands of other individuals from various +planets throughout the near regions of our solar system and beyond.Donestra +told Dean that they have been studying the Earth for many years and that +our planetary and human condition interested them greatly. + + After several minutes of conversation the communication came to a close +and Dean was asked not to mention to any one for a while what he had seen +and heard. Dean was told to watch the skies in the next few days, he did +and claims he saw a craft of" amazing design and aerial ability". This was +to prove to Dean that the contact he had was real and not an hallucination. +Between 1966 and 1967 Dean was to continue to have contact with Donestra. + + In 1967 Dean was discharged from the service and he moved to Brewster, +New York. Things were quiet, and the year went by uneventful. But on +January 19th 1968 at 4:30 in the morning Dean had another extraterrestrial +contact, this time it would change the rest of his life. + + Dean woke up at that hour and saw a bluish shimmer in the upper corner of +the room.He also heard an incredible high frequency buzzing sound. +Gradually, an object materialized about three inches in diameter, round, +resembling an old fashion microphone. + + This object came nearer and nearer until it halted before Dean's face at +a distance of no more than a foot. This object stood their,suspended in mid +air and continued to oscillate. As Dean watched, something projected itself +>from the center of the disk and extended out four or five inches, it +resembled an "ice pick". It seemed to Dean that it was some type of probe +and came to within three inches of his forehead. The probe then emitted a +very intense vibration that shook his head and neck. Dean lay in bed +helpless, but not paralyzed. The object then became quiet, then it +disappeared. + + The next day, Friday morning, Dean got into his car went to a store and +began buying graph paper, triangles, compasses and various drafting +instruments. The buying spree did not seem to be under his control, nor did +he understand why he was buying these things. + + Dean collected his purchases and went home and for the next three weeks +began making drawings of various types of alien machinery. Dean did not +know why he was doing this, but thought this Donestra person might have +something to do with it. Dean had no idea of what the devices were that he +was drawing. + + The drawings were done in an unusual manner; Dean had no notion of what +he was doing,but felt strongly motivated to complete the drawings. He would +place a piece of graph paper in front of him and s bluish dots would +appear. The dots instructed him where to draw the lines. Also he seemed to +have a pre-knowledge of what color or shade to place in a particular part +of the diagrams. After three weeks and many hours behind closed doors Dean +Completed 32 diagrams and several pages of some unkown symbols.(Two of +these diagrams appear in this issue, as well as one page of the symbols. + + Dean held on to these diagrams since 1968,then turned them over to me in +1982. He said that he was instructed to do so by Donestra and that I would +know what to do with them when the time comes. + + +The diagrams have been looked at by many professional people,a physicist, +an electrical enginner, a professional artist, a master draftsman and even +Dr. Hynek looked at them. Everyone was very impressed with them, and the +draftsman stated that it would take someone with at least twenty years +experience to produce something of that quality. + +Dean Fagerstrom continues his contacts till this day. It would take an +entire book to explore some of the material he has produced, and a lifetime +to research it. You may write to Dean Fagerstrom at One Allen Road, Putnam +Lake New York. + + Entity Communication + ---------------------- + + + This type of case invloves beings materializing to a witnesses out of +thin air. Since 1986, 10 cases of this type have been brought to my +attention in the Hudson Valley. Since the publication of my book Night +Siege, The Hudson Valley UFO siightings in 1987 and my previous articles in +UFO UNIVERSE, I have received well over 50 letters from all over the +country from people who experienced this type of contact. + + In over 80% of the cases the time of the contact seems to be from 2-4 A.M +and the place , the witnesses bedroom. The stories are very similar and +they tell of the witnesses being woke up by the being,not physically but by +a strong mental impression. The beings are usually described the same, tall +slim, with long hair(Mostly blonde but, in some rare cases black).The +majority of the beings reported are male, with very few females reported. +It is interesting to note that the tall blonde beings seems to be taking +part in this type of contact, while the little Greys are responsible for +the abductions. In this type of contact 92% of the contactees were women. + + Many times some type of information is given to the witnesses.The +information is usually to predict major natural catastrophies and future +UFO sightings. In all the cases explored none of the information that is +given to the person contacted checks out. In most cases the person is +paralyzed while the enitity proceeds with the communication. In all the +cases explored the witnesses is never allowed to speak. + + Sighting with Telepathy + ----------------------- + + + Some people who spotted the Hudson Valley UFO felt a strong connection +with the UFO and themselves. At times they felt as if the object(or the +intelligence inside the object) could read their minds. After these +sightings these witnesses continued to feel a strong bond between the UFO +and themselves. These people who had this feeling during their intial +sighting in the Hudson Valley, continued to have additional sightings, some +later experienced one type of contact listed above. These reports are +fully documented in my book NIGHT SIEGE, which was co-authored with the +late Dr. J. Allen Hynek and Mr. Bob Pratt. + Prearranged UFO Photos? + ----------------------- + + We have seen many UFO photographs in the past twenty years. In some cases +it seems that the photograph was the result of more than an accident. This +may be the case of Travis Ward a Greenwich resident who on January 22 in +the early morning hours took the following UFO photo. Was his camera set up +at the right place at the right time? Or was it more than a stroke of luck? + + CE-III Cases + _____________ + + + The number of CE-III cases that have been reported to me involve the +little grey humanoids in and around the Hudson Valley of New York. These +cases seem to be on the rise since August of 1987 and are currently under +investigation. In some of the cases contact was made without the classical +abduction. Many reports that have been brought to my attention all seem to +be of the classical "grey" beings described in the books, COMMUNION and +INTRUDERS. At times these creatures have been reported around a a UFO that +is close to the ground,but sometimes no UFO is seen at all. + + If you had a CONTACT experience I would like to hear from you. You can +write me at PO Box 4218, Greenwich, Ct 06830 + +[Uploaded to CompuServe's National Issues Forum Aug 5, 1990] +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Here's *another* file in the same vein: +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Contact of the Fourth Kind + +(Abductions in the Hudson Valley area of New York) + + By. Philip J. Imbrogno + + + + Over the past five years the New York, New Jersey and Connecticut area +have been the scene of a massive number of UFO sightings. The numbers of +reports are so great that I believe this area has the highest number of raw +UFO sighting reports in the entir e world. These reports are documented in +my book NIGHT SIEGE THE HUDSON VALLEY UFO SIGHTS which I co-authored with +the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek and Mr. Bob Pratt. + + I have been asked over the years by many UFO researchers if there have +been any close encounter-abduction type cases in the Hudson Valley . My +answer to most was No.Only to few did I admite that there were abduction +cases and plenty of them. This denial of such cases was at the request of +Dr. Hynek since he wanted NIGHT SIEGE to be a documentation of the many UFO +reports in the Hudson Valley.D. Hynek also wanted to keep these cases quiet +until we had more data about the sightings in the area. + + With so many reports over the years and with the sighting still +continuing it was only a matter of time before the growing number of +Abduction cases in the Hudson Valley had to be dealt with. + + To this date I have been contacted by at least 75 people who feel as if +they had more than a sighting. Of the 75 there are 25 that would be +suitable for further study.Of these twenty five ten come from professional +backrounds.All do not want any type o f publicity. I will explore two of +these cases in this article. At the witnesses request, I have changed their +names to protect them.I would also like to inform the reader that Whitley +Strieber, author of the best selling book COMMUNION experiences took place +in the Hudson Valley area. Since the publication of his book many people +have come forward with incredible stories,people who would otherwise would +have kept silent. + + On July 2 1987 I received a call from a 36 year old woman from Toms River +New Jersey who I shall call Gail. Gail was very troubled on the phone and +insisted that she talk to me about a UFO related experience that she had. +During the last part of June (1 987) as she was lying down on her bed, she +felt some what uneasy as if someone was watching her.The time was Ten PM. +She then heard a voice say" We have come for you..You will not be hurt." +She then realized that her entire body was paralyzed and that she could +only move her eyes.Gail was lying on her back and noticed that three beings +stood in the doorway to her bedroom. She was alone in the house at the +time,but does live there with her seventeen year old daughter who was away +visiting her father in Croton Falls N.Y. Gail is divorced. + + Three beings were dressed in something that looked like tightly fitting +jumpsuits and stood in a single row,one behind the other. The leader, +according to Gail seemed to have a problem getting into the room. It was as +if sometype of invisible sheild was blocking his way. He lifted up his +hand and pressed them against the invisible sheild,then he put his +hand>4^[e light in the hall was dim,and she could not see their +features. She noticed they were about five feet tall with very long arms. + + The leader then took some type of rod out from a side pocket and turned +the bottom of it. The rod then glowed with a green light and he passed it +over the doorway area. They then walked into the room without any effort. +As they entered the room still in a single file she noticed that they had +large heads and eyes that looked like a cats which wrapped around their +heads. She never heard them talk but heard all kinds on buzzing noises in +her head when the leader communicated with the others. + +Gail tried to scream but could not,she could only move her eyes.The leader +placed himself on her right side and then one of them went to the foot of +the bed and the other on the left side of the bed. The beings on each side +of her then placed their hand s under her head and raised it up. She then +noticed that the one on her left took a tube of what like like a narrow +roll of white cotton and started pushing it up her left nostril.At that +moment she felt extreme pain in her head and then started to lose co +nscious. She felt as if she was falling from a great height,then she does +not remeber anymore. + + The next thing she recalls is waking up at 8am with a very bad headache. +As she walked to the bathroom her nose (both nostrils started to bleed. She +felt as if something was stuck up her nose,but nothing was there. She +looked in the bathroom mirror and noticed her nose was swollen and +puffy.She she noticed a rash on her neck,legs and slightly on her arms. + + She had hoped that the experience from that last night was a dream and +tried to block it out of her head. When her daughter arrived home that +night she told her about what happened.Gail told me that before she even +finsihed with her story her daughter s tarted shaking and then told her +that on the same night, about the same time she and her father were +followed by a UFO on route 116 near Croton Falls New York. She described to +her mother a large dark craft triangular in shape that paced the car for +five m inutes above tree top level. + + I found this report very interesting since Croton falls is near the +border of Westchester and Putnam Counties in New York and that loney route +has been the site of more than one Close Encounter over the past five +years. I also found it interesting that both mother and daughter had a +experience with the paranormal at the same time. + + There is more to this case than meets the eye. The daughter and father +accrording to my findings may have had as much as thirty minutes missing +time. If this is so and if both were abducted then the experience happened +to father,mother and daughter at t he same time!. + + Gail's rash and headaches continued for a few days then disappeared. I +plan to have Gail undergo hypnosis in the near future by a certified +psychologist. The story does not end here. Several weeks latter I received +a call from Gail telling me that it ha ppened again. She said"Those +creatures came back the same time and they did the same thing"She +continued"It was as if I was watching a movie of the first time they +came,they did exactly the same thing.Including having trouble getting into +the doorway to th e bedroom.My daughter was once again away visiting her +father." + + This case is still under study, but intial findings indicate that both +Gail and her daughter may have a history of interactions with the +intelligence behind the UFO phenomenon. + + + The second case I would like to cover took place on July 19th 1984 during +the peak of activity in the Hudson Valley. the sighting involved a Close +Encounter, Missing time and abduction. If this was a real expereince then +the implications are fantastic. In all the cases that I chose to study all +the witnesses related the truth,or what they thought was the truth.There is +no doubt in my mind that their stories are not hoaxes since none would have +nothing to gain by going public with their experiences. + + Bill (as we shall refer to him) is a thirty two year old computer +programmer for a major scientific-engineering corportation that helped +design the major componets for the new NASA Hubble space telescope. On July +19th 1984, at about ten-thirty pm, Bill w as leaving work and heading west +on Highway I-84. As he approached the Taconic Parkway ramp in Dutchess +county New York he noticed a very bright almost circular object off to the +north. The object seemed to be just sitting there in the sky and the lights +w ere very bright white. As he watched the object it began to move and it +was at that time he noticed a dark mass behind it which blocked out the +brighter light polluted night sky. He continued to drive on 84 and soon +lost sight of the object. He then brushe d the entire incident off his mind +and thought"Oh it must have been those guys from Stormville flying those +planes faking a UFO" He then drove on listening to his radio. + + + He then turned off the route 52 exit near Stormville New York and began +traveling north. The time now was close to eleven PM and the roads were +quite desolate. He came to a clearing where there was a large field and +noticed a large dark mass sitting in the field about 200 yards from the +road. At first he thought that it was a new home,but then he knew there was +no house there since he went this way just last night and the field was +empty. As a matter of fact Bill drove this way home and passed the field +everynight and never saw a house there. + + Bill slowed down the car"This thing was huge and dark",he said.The +strange thing was it was almost the same shape as a big barn,but it seemed +more tapered toward the sides and very smooth. As he watched, the dark +object rose into the air without a sound . This really upset Bill since he +was the only car on the road. The object then rose higher and higher. All +that Bill could see was the dark mass slowly rising into the air. It was +now about twice as high as the trees and it moved slowly towards Bill who w +as still in the car. Bills radio then started to sound "funny" he said that +the music on the radio sounded like a tape player ,playing music with very +weak batteries. The voices and the music sounded out of tune. + + Bill then put his car into gear and sped away from the object. His heart +was racing as he drove up the road at about fifty miles and hour.Bill then +lost sight of the object and continued to drive at a slower rate of +speed.After several minutes he notice d a glow up ahead over a hill. As he +approached the crest of the hill there the object was! It was about 300 +feet above the trees and was all lit up with rows of white and yellow +lights. He then stopped his car and turned off the engine and the lights. +He was hoping that who ever was in the thing would not see him. The object +then turned off its lights and he could see this huge dark mass slolwy +drifting toward him. The object passed right over his car,he could now see +its shape,it was triangular. Bill told +me"I don't want to make light of this,but the ship looked like one of the +star destroyers in Star Was" The underside was the same shape,although I +did not see the top. + + The object passed over Bill, as he looked up he saw circular areas +underneath the UFO. These circular areas seemed to be like tunnels leading +into the object. Inside these circular tunnels there was a white +flashing,similar to the flashing of a white st robe light (we had several +reports of this white flashing effect from past CE cases in the Hudson +Valley, also the circular areas have been reported numerous times before). +Bill told me there was no sound.He estimated its size to be at least 300 +feet from end to end. + + Then something strange took place. The last thing Bill remembers is +watching it go over his car,he did not see it leave. The next thing he +knows he is at the bottom of the hill 600 feet from the position he was +when the UFO passed over his parked car. T he object itself was gone. He +was not sure what time it was when he watched the object passed over his +car,but he feels it was most likely about eleven-thirty PM. The time was +now tweleve -fifteen. He started his drive home upset and with a very stiff +neck . + + + When he arrived home he told his wife about his sighting. She was worried +to begin with since he was almost and hour late. That night Bill woke up +yelling in the night"saying get away from me!" His wife said that the +nightmares continued for a while at least twice a week . Bill told to me +that the he was not sure of what the nightmare was, but he knew something +was after him. As time went on Bill was afriad to drive at night alone. He +even had to insist to his boss not to put him on the evening or night +shift at his job. Finally Bill wanted to find out more since the experience +of the UFO and the fearful dreams tormented him. It wasen't until 1987 that +Bill contacted me and told me his story. Bill Had seen Budd Hopkins(author +of the book INTRUDERS) on a n umber of shows and asked me if would be +possible for him to be hypnotized. Hearing Budd on TV talk about the +abductions made him fearful and he wanted to make sure that this did not +happen to him. I arranged to have Bill meet with a certified psychologist +that I occasionally use to perform hypnosis.The following is a brief +transcript of Bills encounter under hypnosis. He first related seeing the +object on 84 and then the object in the field and then in the sky over the +hill, it is then that his voice become s fearful. + +Bill" I see it now its that thing! Its coming in my direction!. Iam going +to turn off my car lights. maybe then wont see me and go away. Its +huge......Oh my God what is it!. Theres someone standing in the road he is +now walking toward the car. Who are yo u!...... He's saying something to me +"don't be fearful we need you...you have been selected". Selected for +what,get away!. I feel strange like I am floating in the air,its all dark. +I am now on this table and these guys are all around me,six of them. Two a +re at my head and two on the sides(two on each side). My legs and arms are +like dead weights I can't move them. + +(Bill is then asked to describe them) + +"These guys are small, large heads with round eyes,the eyes are all black +I can see no pupils in them,they remind me of sharks eyes. They are dressed +in sometype of black and white skin type suits. I can't see their hands. +The one at my head is moving so me type of device that looks like a +portable car vacuum cleaner up and down the left side of my head. It +vibrates my entire head,it feels like a drill going through my head... +STOP! it hurts.. He tells me that they are looking for something and found +it. + +I now can feel my legs and arms they are allowing me to get up. They are +very small only up to the bottom part of my chest (Bill is six foot one +inch) The others are now over some type of pannel. Two of them are leading +me by the arms. I asked them where they were from"The one on my right +leading said"We are from here" I didn't understand the answer. I asked him +if they planned to let me go. he replied "Yes but we will see you again" He +told me that they need us because they have trouble living in our wor ld. +He said they come from a place which is very ugly when compared to our +world and they would rather live here,but can't. I told him that I would +remember and tell every one about this. He said I would remember in time +but there are forces in your own(?) which will stop you from telling +anyone about this experience." Bill then found himself back in the car. +Bill now recalls every aspect of the experience. It was a very real +experience to him. + + +There are about a dozen other cases similar to Bill's and Gail's.In The +Hudson Valley area.Can all of these people who have had UFO abductions and +sightings in this part of the country be experiencing sometype of mass +hysteria? I don't think so. The evid ence indicates that there is some type +of non-human intelligence at work. If the case histories of the total +experiences are true then we all better work together to get to the bottom +of this. + + In 1987 Peter Gersten a Peekskill New York attorney put together a new +organization called CONTACT. Peter who is known for his work in obtaining +UFO related documents from goverment agencies organized CONTACT in response +to the great number of Close Enc ounter cases in the New York area. Peter +had some of the top UFologist flown in from all over the country to meet at +his Peekskill home. Amoung them were Tracy Torme, Budd Hopkins, Jim Mc +Cambell and this author. On September 27 CONTACT organized a free UF O +public conference in Brewster New York. The theme of the conference was to +explore the adbuction phenomena and the possibility that some people have +been in contact with a non-human intelligence.Speakers at the conference +included John Keel. Whitley Stri eber and Budd Hopkins. Over 900 people +attended the 12 hour conference and 200 filled out forms who felt they had +a contact experience. + +Then during the first several months of 1988 Peter Gersten dissolved +CONTACT and as of the date of this publication CONTACT is no longer in +existence. The reasons for this are not clear but Peter still maintains a +UFO Hotline where callers can get up to date information about UFO +sightings. The caller can also leave their name and report their own +sighting on a tape.The UFO hotline number is 914-739-6830. + +If the reader would like to reach me to report a sighting or encounter I +can be reached at PO Box 4218 Greenwich, Ct 06830. + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------- +EOF + + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2818.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2818.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4cd11ae0 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2818.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,1315 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON THE UFO CONSPIRACY FILE: UFO2818 + + + + + + + + The UFO Conspiracy + + + + Information concerning the U.S. government's cover-up of alien + activity on Earth, according to Milton William Cooper + + + + + + + Compiled by David E. Stewart + 1301 W. 24th St. Apt. M20 + Lawrence, KS 66046 + 1-913-749-5914 + + + The UFO Conspiracy + + + Table of Contents + + + +The Milton William Cooper Speech .............................. 3 +Appendix A: Operation Majority .............................. 16 +Appendix B: For More Information ............................ 23 +Appendix C: Musings ......................................... 25 + + + + + + + + + This document was created using Microsoft Word 5.0 on a +Tandy 1000TL (IBM compatible) computer. The information con- +tained herein comes mostly from the alt.conspiracy section of +Usenet, a worldwide computer messaging network accessed via the +University of Kansas Digital Equipment Corporation VAX 8650 com- +puter system. Other information was obtained by the editor via +personal phone calls and other research. + + + The Milton William Cooper Speech + + +Editor's note: What follows is a transcript of a 45-minute lec- +ture given by Milton William Cooper on November 17, 1989, at the +"Whole Life Expo" in Los Angeles, Calif. His speech was tran- +scribed word-for-word from a microcassette recording. + + "For those of you who don't know who I am, I was raised in a +military family. My family, my ancestors, since they came to +this country, have been government people. We have served in the +military, we have been patriots, we have fought in all the wars, +we care about this country and believe in the constitution of the +United States. We know, as many people don't know, that the Con- +stitution of the United States of America is the United States of +America! And that's why we've always been ready to do the things +needed to preserve and protect it. + "When I left home I went into the Air Force, the Strategic +Air Command. As a child I'd heard stories from my father and pi- +lots, other pilots, my father was a pilot, about Foo Fighters, +UFOs, strange craft that were not made on this Earth. And as a +kid, you hear that in passing, and it's neat, and you giggle +about it, and you go out and play 'Space Man,' and you forget it. + "When I was in the Air Force I met men who had participated +in alien crashed-craft recoveries. Now this intrigued me, it in- +terested me, but it was usually after quite a few bottles of beer +that these stories would come out, and sometimes the next morning +I couldn't remember what the heck the guy said. + "When I left the Air Force I went into the Navy, and this is +where everything began to happen for me. I had originally in- +tended to just go from service to service and do something that +very few people have ever done before. I was a very adventurous, +very crazy ... young man, and I thought that that would be a +pretty exciting life. I volunteered for submarines, and while on +the submarine USS Tyroot, SS-416, on a transit between the Port- +land/Seattle area and Pearl Harbor, which was our home port; the +Pearl Harbor sub base, as the port lookout I saw a craft, saucer- +shaped, the size of a Midway class carrier, aircraft carrier, for +those of you who don't know how big that is; it's huge, come up +out of the water approximately two and a half nautical miles off +the port bow, which is about 45 degrees to the left of the pointy +end of the submarine. It tumbled slowly on its own axis, and +went up into the clouds. It appeared to be moving slowly to me +at a distance of two and a half nautical miles, but in reality it +was moving pretty fast because it came up out of the water, did a +few tumbles, and it was gone! + "I then reported it to the officer of the deck. I didn't +tell him what it was that I saw because my Daddy didn't raise no +fools and in case nobody else saw it I didn't want to be the only +looney on board the ship. So I asked the officer of the deck to +help me cover that area, and he did, which is common for officers +and lookouts to help each other while on bridge watch because +they all hang together if something bad happens. After a few +seconds of watching, the same craft, or another craft exactly +like it, came down out of the clouds, tumbled again on its own +axis, and went into the water. Ensign Ball, who was the officer +of the deck, was literally shocked! What could I say? Seaman +Dejeralimo, who was the starboard lookout, had also witnessed +this, and Ensign Ball called the captain to the bridge who was +followed by the chief quartermaster who brought a 35MM camera, +and we watched for between seven and 10 minutes the same craft, +or different craft that looked exactly alike, enter and leave the +water. It was an incredible show. I don't know if they knew we +were there, or if they even cared, but the craft did not glow, +they were metal, they were machines without a doubt, they were +obviously intelligently guided, they were huge, and having been +in the Air Force and the Navy and knowing what it takes, I knew +without a doubt, and know it today, that that machine was not +made on the face of this earth. Because there's nothing that man +can make, that can fly through the air at a speed like that, tum- +ble on its own axis, and enter the water and effectively fly be- +neath the sea. + "If you've ever been aboard an airplane and then gone aboard +a submarine, I know there's probably some of you in this room who +have visited a submarine at one time or another, you can readily +see just without even any of the technicalities involved how dif- +ficult such a thing would be to do. Where would it be built, +that size? It was absolutely incredible. It changed my life be- +cause then all the stories that I'd heard all my life I knew were +true, and I began seeing the world in a different light. + "It wasn't long after that I was trained by Naval security +in intelligence. I was sent to Vietnam. I was assigned as a pa- +trol boat captain, first in DaNang harbor, given a crew, given a +multi-million dollar patrol boat. My job was to gather intelli- +gence from the people who lived around the harbor and the fisher- +men who transited the harbor, and maintain the safety and secu- +rity of the harbor and the shipping. After about five months I +was sent up North to the DMZ, to a place called Qua Vieaf [sp], +on the Tacan [sp] river. Our base camp was at the river mouth. +We were only three miles south of the North Vietnamese border and +our job was to patrol the Tacan river from the river mouth to +Dang Ha [sp], and then up the Quang Tree [sp] cutoff to Quang +Tree city, again to get to know the people on the bank, gather +intelligence, and to patrol every night and maintain the safety +and security of the river and the river traffic. + "It was while there that I discovered that there was a +tremendous amount of UFO and alien activity in Vietnam. It was +always reported in official messages as 'enemy helicopters.' Now +any of you who know anything about the Vietnam war know that the +North Vietnamese did not have any helicopters, especially after +our first couple of air raids into North Vietnam. Even if they +had they would not have been so foolish as to bring them over the +DMZ because that would have insured their demise. Our troops +were fired on occasionally by these 'enemy helicopters,' enemy +troops were fired on occasionally by these 'enemy helicopters,' +and occasionally people would disappear. And on one instance +that I know for sure at least one entire village disappeared one +night because of alien activity. The reason they used the term +'enemy helicopters' in messages and dispatches was that in Viet- +nam you could be overrun at any time, no matter where you where. +They did not bring crypto encoding equipment into Vietnam, I'm +talking about the machinery. What we did is we had crypto ta- +bles, and once we every 24 hours those codes would be no good. +So that's what we used. We also, because of the inability to use +crypto transmitting equipment, had to devise code words such as +'enemy helicopters.' + "When I left Vietnam I was eventually attached to the head- +quarters staff of the Commander in Chief of the United States Pa- +cific Fleet at Macalappa, [sp] Hawaii, which is a little hill +overlooking Pearl Harbor, it's a beautiful white building up +there, and I was specifically attached to the Intelligence Brief- +ing Team of the Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific +Fleet. + "It was during this tour of duty that, in the course of my +duties, documents were placed in my hands that were so unbeliev- +able and so incredible that it took me quite a while to adjust to +the fact that what I was seeing was real. Now for those of you +who don't understand how I could come to see this information, +let me give you a little short course in security clearance and +the need to know and how you get to see classified information if +you're in the military or in the government, it doesn't matter +which, the rules are the same. + "No. 1, you need a security clearance, and you've got to +have clearance at the level that the information you want to see +is classified at. In this instance it was classified 'Top Se- +cret, Magic, Restricted Information,' which I came to find out +later is the highest security classification in the Nation. To +get that type of clearance, all you have to have is a Federal Bu- +reau of Investigation background check, which takes about six +months and they send federal agents to your home, to your old +schools, to all your teachers, to your friends, to everybody you +put down on your security clearance forms, to all your old ad- +dresses, your neighbors, everybody that you've worked for, and +it's embarrassing because they don't tell them what they're +checking on. They just show them their identification and start +asking questions and that's when you find out who's your friend +and who's not, because a lot of people get scared and think, +'Bill just robbed a bank and I'm not talking to him anymore.' + "Now once you get that it's called a 'B.I.' and for those of +you who have received a copy of my service record look on the +first page, the DD-214 where it says 'Security Clearance,' you +will see the term 'B.I.' That's a 'Bureau of Investigation' +clearance. Now at that point, you have the clearance for every- +thing including Top Secret and above. What determines what you +get to see is your need to know, and the job that you have deter- +mines what your need to know is. + "I was assigned to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the +Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, who had to +know everything concerning his area of operations which was one +half of the Earth's surface; the Indian ocean, the Pacific ocean, +and all the land masses in between. Believe it or not, if we go +to war, if we ever go to war, it's the United States Navy that +strikes the first blow and attempts to keep the enemy at bay +while we can get ourselves together, at least historically. Nu- +clear weapons have kind of done away with that concept, but mili- +tary commanders like to talk about it anyway. + "Because of this, and you have no conception of the amount +of material and information that an area commander has to know; +it's unbelievable, and he has to keep track of this, he has to +keep on top of it. He has to know what's happening; he has to +make the right decisions. Because it's almost humanly impossible +for anyone to do that, they have what's called a briefing team, +and it's our job to make sure that he has the correct informa- +tion, all the time, on a 24-hour basis. And every morning, be- +tween 8 and 9 a.m., we would give a briefing which covered every- +thing that happened in the previous 24 hours, and everything +scheduled to happen in the next 24 hours, and all the pertinent +intelligence reports that we had received since the last briefing +that he needed to know and that his staff members needed to know. +Occasionally we would get messages marked 'Top Secret, Magic, Re- +stricted Information,' and it would be coded in such a way that +all you had were answers to questions which you didn't know what +the questions were so you really didn't know what the message was +all about. + "But eventually I found myself in possession, holding two +documents; one called 'Project Grudge,' another one called +'Operation Majority.' Project Grudge contained the history of +alien involvement since around 1936, and it began talking about +Germany's involvement with a crashed disk that they had recovered +in 1936 and were attempting to duplicate the technology. They +were not successful despite what all these Nazi hunters want to +tell you. If they had been successful, we would not have won the +war, because you cannot beat those weapons! You cannot out fly +those craft, you can't even think about it with conventional air- +craft. If Germany had been successful, we would now have a Ger- +man flag up in front of this podium. + "They did make some headway. When we went into Punta Mundy +[sp] we captured documents, we got some scientists, we got some +hardware. The Russians also got some documents, some scientists, +and some hardware. It wasn't until 1947 that we were able to +capture a craft, a whole craft, not all together but it was ev- +erything. And that occurred near the city of Roswell, New Mex- +ico. There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Pro- +ject Grudge I saw photographs of these dead aliens, of the craft; +I saw photographs of live aliens; I saw photographs of autopsies, +internal organs; I saw photographs of the alien designated 'E.B.' +[or Ebe], which was held in captivity from 1949 until June 2, +1952, when he died. I saw the history of what they had been able +to at that time put together, from incidents in the 1800s, which +involved aliens and their craft. + "I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was to +fly recovered alien craft that had been recovered intact and un- +damaged, and some of them were recovered intact and undamaged, +and how that happened I have no idea. It was called 'Project +Redlight,' and first was conducted from the Tonopah test range in +the Nevada test sight and then was moved to a specially built +area, ordered built by president Eisenhower, called 'Area-51,' +code named 'Dreamland,' in the Groom [sp] dry lake area of the +Nevada test sight, by secret executive order. It doesn't exist +officially, if you ask anyone, or if you write letters to the +government they will tell you it doesn't exist. However if you +go out there at several places and see it, fly outside the bound- +aries and look down and see it, you know it's there, but accord- +ing to the government it doesn't exist. + "The project to fly, test fly these craft, was ongoing until +sometime in 1962 when a craft blew up not far from the test +sight, in the air, and the explosion was seen over a three-state +area. The pilots were killed, they had no idea what had happened +or why the craft blew up, but they put Project Redlight on hold +until a later date when the aliens supplied us with three craft +and personnel to help us learn how to fly these craft. That pro- +ject is ongoing, and we now have not only alien craft that we are +flying, we have craft we have built, using the captured technol- +ogy, and some of the UFOs that people report seeing in the United +States, and maybe even elsewhere, are flown by United States per- +sonnel. + "That may come as a shock to you. We have technology way +beyond the limits of what we have been told. A lot of our devel- +opment technologically, since the end of World War II, has been +due to the exchange of technology which occurs in the area called +'Area-51' on a regular basis ... ongoing. + "When James Oberth, Professor Oberth retired, many of you +don't know who he is ... not too many space people in here. Pro- +fessor Oberth was probably one of the greatest rocket scientists +and space commentators that ever lived. When he retired, the +government gave him a special award, there was a press confer- +ence, all kinds of ceremony, and when he got up to speak he said, +'Gentlemen,' and I quote Professor Oberth, he said, 'Gentlemen, +we cannot take credit for all the technological developments that +we have had in the last decade. We have had help,' and that's +where he stopped. + "One of the reporters raised his hand and said, 'Professor +Oberth, can you tell us what other country helped us?' + "He said, 'It was those little guys from out in space,' and +then he got down and would not comment any further. Now this oc- +curred in 1959. I can go on and on, but time doesn't allow it. + "I will tell you ladies and gentlemen that there are all +kinds of things going on all the time, we are making rapid +progress in exposing this. Since I have begun talking, people +have been coming out of the woodwork at a rapid rate, who know +and have pieces of this puzzle, and are helping us to put it to- +gether, because I don't have all the answers. I saw an awful lot +of material, I have remembered an awful lot of it, I have proba- +bly, in my remembering, made some mistakes, and I guarantee you +they're minor ones, if I have. + "We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe +that the Jason Society of the Jason Scholars, the secret group, +existed, we now have a letter from the Pentagon, with 51 names of +the Jason Scholars, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold +the highest security clearances in the nation, an admission from +the Pentagon that they hold the protocol rank of Rear Admiral, +and are treated as such on any military installation or in any +government office. There are six Nobel Prize winners on that +list, there are the elite of the elite of the scientific world, +they are the only ones who really know the truth about the tech- +nology today and about the real science of physics, because the +one that we're being taught all the time ... If you send your +kids to college to learn physics you're wasting your money be- +cause they're teaching them stuff that doesn't work, it's not +true, it's not real. Gravity is not what we think it is. There +is a Unified Theory! We already know what it is; it's what makes +these craft work. It's absolutely incredible what's going on. + "How many of you keep up with Billy Goodman's show on KVEG +out of Las Vegas? For those of you who don't, I would try tuning +in on any night between 10 p.m. and 1 a.m. It's 840 on your AM +dial, and the subject every night are those subjects that no +other media person in the United States will touch with a 10-foot +pole, every single night except Saturday night. It's the only +show that you can call in and talk to another caller, you've got +three minutes to say whatever you want to say as long as you +don't cuss or swear or slander anyone, and every night they're +helping to expose this. + "When John Lear and I first said what was going on out at +Groom Lake everybody said, 'You're nuts, there's nothing going on +out at Groom Lake!' The listeners of the Billy Goodman radio show +put together an excursion and went up to Groom Lake and they all, +ever since, every night, they go up there and watch them test fly +the alien craft ... every night! The first night they had 100 +people there. And 100 people saw four alien craft fly, doing +things that no airplane and no helicopter can do. Now they don't +tell us anymore that there's nothing happening at Groom Lake. +What they tell us now is there's no such thing as aliens, it's +all government secret projects. That's OK because we'll prove +that wrong too eventually, it just takes a while. Because where +we were ... it's not where we're at, and I'm really happy about +that. + "Now, if you want to see what's happening right now, keep +watching your movies, keep watching your television commercials, +your alien programs on television, read Whitley Strieber's +Majestic, which is a part of the contingency plan called +'Majestic' to test the reaction of the population to the presence +of aliens on the Earth. And I have just finished my study of +Whitley Strieber's book Majestic, and I'm going to tell you right +now that most of the documents in there, that he says are +fiction, are real documents that came right out of Project +Grudge. It is part of the government's campaign to leak informa- +tion out in ways that they can always deny that it's real. +There's only one thing wrong with the information in that book, +the stories of the characters in there I know nothing about. +What I'm talking about are the supposed government documents that +he has in that book. I'm telling you tonight they're real. +Those are some of the same documents that I saw in Project Grudge +back between 1970 and 1973, and where we have wondered before, +now we know that Whitley Strieber is working for the government. +And we had a suspicion anyway because in the front of his book he +states that he got information and was helped by the research +team of Moore, Shanderey, and Friedman. William Moore has pub- +licly admitted on July 1 that he is an agent of the United States +Government, and we know that the others are too. + "This is going to come out, and the reason they're doing it +the way they're doing it is they know eventually you're going to +find out that it's all true and real. They're desensitizing you +so that you're not shocked, so that there's no collapse of soci- +ety as we know it, so that the religious structure doesn't fall +to pieces, so that the stock market doesn't go crazy, because +these were their original fears. Now, there's nothing we can do +about the last one because it's already happened, there will be a +segment of the population that worships the aliens, even though +they're no different than us; they're just from somewhere else, +and they may look a little different. They are not gods. But +there are already people worshiping the aliens and they predicted +this would happen when they slapped the secret stamp all over all +this stuff. + "You know, there's really nothing wrong with what's been +happening except for three things. [Cooper forgot to mention the +third thing, or was sidetracked, or included it into the second +thing.] + "No. 1, when they decided to keep it secret they needed to +finance it, they couldn't tell the public, so they couldn't tell +Congress. They decided to finance it with the sale, importation +and sale, of drugs. Now in the documents that I read, in Opera- +tion Majority, it specifically stated that when George Bush was +the president and CEO of Sapata [sp] Oil, he, in conjunction with +the CIA, organized the first large-scale drug importation into +this country from South and Central America by fishing boat, to +the offshore oil platforms of Sapata Oil, and then from there +into the beach, thus bypassing all Customs inspections and law- +enforcement inspections of any kind. They are still bringing in +drugs, to a limited extent, in this manner. Another manner is by +CIA contract aircraft which, one of their bases of landing is +Homestead [sp] Air Force Base in Florida. We have affidavits +>from air controllers who have vectored the planes in, who have +made sure that they're not interfered with in any way. We have +affidavits from personnel at Homestead Air Force Base who say the +planes have been met by Jeb Bush, who is George Bush's son. We +have affidavits from people who work in the Gulf of Mexico, in +the offshore oil business, that yes indeed, the drugs are coming +in, at least some of them, from the offshore oil platforms." + From the audience came a clear statement, "Just say no?" + "Pardon? Right! Just Say No! Well that's what we're going +to do ladies and gentlemen with your help. We are going to say +no, no more! And you have to do it, you have to act. You either +have to act or watch your country go down the tubes. + "Now, that's one of the things that's wrong. The next thing +that's wrong is, to keep the secret, they killed a lot of people +who tried to leak it out. And if I hadn't done it the way that I +did it, you wouldn't be seeing me anywhere standing or walking on +this Earth now. They killed President Kennedy and during the +workshop, for those of you haven't seen the tape, I will show +you, on the tape, who shot the president and why. Between '70 +and '73, in Operation Majority it stated verbatim that President +Kennedy ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of drugs +to the American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan +to reveal the presence of aliens to the American people within +the following year. His assassination was ordered by the policy +committee of the Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and +carried it out in Dallas. It involved agents of the CIA, Divi- +sion-5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the Office of Naval +Intelligence. President Kennedy was killed by the driver of his +car, his name was William Greer, he used a recoilless, electri- +cally operated, gas-powered assassination pistol that was spe- +cially built by the CIA to assassinate people at close range. It +fired an explosive pellet which injected a large amount of shell- +fish poison into the brain, and that is why, in the documents, it +stated that President Kennedy's brain was removed. If you've +studied the case, you will find that indeed his brain disap- +peared. The reason for that is so that they would not find the +particles of the exploding pellet or the shellfish poison in his +brain which would have proved conclusively that Lee Harvey Oswald +was not the assassin. In fact, Lee Harvey Oswald never fired a +shot, he was the patsy." + Mr. Cooper paused briefly, and a lady in the audience asked +the obvious question, "Why haven't you been assassinated?" + "If they were to kill me right now, what would you think?" +Cooper posed. + "That it's the truth," several people chimed. + "I've got them right where I want them. If they touch me, +everyone who has ever heard me talk is going to be absolutely en- +raged and is going to know that everything I've said is true. As +long as they don't touch me there's going to be some of you who +are always going to be wondering. But eventually we're going to +bring enough proof out, and if you're here during the workshop +you're going to see an awful lot of it that's going to prove to +you that it's true. It's real. And it's happening! + "Okay, I've tried to cover a lot of stuff, just briefly, be- +cause there's no time in 45 minutes to get into anything very +much." + Mr. Cooper then announced the scheduled workshop session the +following day in which tangible proofs could be seen but the +transcriber was unable to attend. He then opened up the floor to +questions and answers. + A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of +the room, which in essence asked, "What about all the people in +the press and others who were in Dallas and who saw the assassi- +nation? Couldn't they tell where the shot came from? Why didn't +they come forward? There must have been plenty." + "There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all +murdered within two years of the event. The odds of that happen- +ing are 1 in 300,000 trillion," Cooper replied. + Again a muffled question, "Why did the driver have to shoot +Kennedy?" + "Because the other fools missed! There were a total of three +shots fired at President Kennedy, one hit him in the throat and +didn't kill him and two of them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one +that was fired from the grassy knoll hit the president in the +throat. The other two shots came from directly behind the limou- +sine, not the school book depository building, and hit Governor +Connelly. Governor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, +is known as a 'can do' man, because he took two hits and still +kept his mouth shut." + "How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand +side of the car was able to blow off the right side of Kennedy's +brain when the bullet actually entered in, and it would have been +virtually impossible ..." another person asked. + Mr. Cooper seized the gist of his question and injected, +"For those of you who have been listening to all these talk show +hosts, whose job it is to be a talk show host, and who have not +done any legitimate research into this, if you come to the work- +shop, I will show you, on the tape, how it was done. You will +see that Kennedy was, in fact slumped over against Jackie, his +head was turned [this direction], it was very simple, it was easy +and you will see it with your own eyes." + Another muffled, off-mike question from a member of the au- +dience inquiring why no one else had come forward with the infor- +mation Mr. Cooper was disseminating, and why those who knew it +had kept it secret for so long was quickly answered, "It hasn't +been, I'm talking about it now. Bill English was talking about +it eight years ago, but everybody laughed at Bill English. John +Lear's been talking about it for three years, and everybody +laughed at him. Now there's so many people have been talking +about it, people are starting to listen, and it's about time. +Because it's about time we that we quit being fools, and that's +exactly what they think we are, and we prove it to them every +day." + The next question dealt with the alien technology and asked +in essence, "Hasn't any one else [other than the government] come +up with the energy technology that the aliens have?" to which Mr. +Cooper answered, "There's been quite a few people who've come up +with it and they've all been stopped, and they'll all continue to +be stopped. Because once you have it you have free energy. Once +you have free energy they no longer have power over you. You un- +derstand? That's why they stop it." + Another question asking, "In the film of the assassination, +which was examined greatly by experts, why didn't they conclude +that Kennedy's driver shot him?" to which Cooper asked, "Examined +by whom greatly? Most of the film that you can purchase has that +segment cut out, and you can always tell it by the person running +in the background, they'll run up to here ... all of a sudden +they'll be down here ... running. You will see in most of the +clips that you've ever seen on television, or in the movies, or +that you're able to get your hands on, you'll see William Greer +start to turn like this ..." then a muffled comment from the au- +dience, then Cooper answered, "That's because they clipped it +out! And on a lot of them, I'll bet you most of you, every time +you've seen the clip on television, never looked at the driver +anyway. If you're really honest with yourself, and with me, you +know your eyes were right on Kennedy." + A woman asked if any of the alien technology was being used +in present-day military equipment and was answered, "Yes, there's +a lot of alien technology contained in the Stealth bomber, that's +right. The Stealth fighter was flying for 10 years before you +even knew it existed." + As the hour drew late another question, more clearly stated, +was asked of Mr. Cooper, "Before you let us all out of here, +there's a bunch of us here wondering what can we all do to help +bring this all out?" + A single word, "revolt," issued from several listeners si- +multaneously, but Cooper responded, "Don't revolt. What you need +to do is what you should have been doing all along. You need to +get involved with your government. The first thing you need to +do is purchase a copy of the Constitution, which I know that most +of you don't have anywhere in your house, and if I were to go +around this room and ask each person what the Constitution says, +most of you couldn't tell me what the Constitution says from your +grocery bill. And that's the truth! And that is your country! +So if you don't know what your Constitution is you're dead al- +ready, so the first thing you do is you get a copy of your Con- +stitution. The second thing you do is you learn it! The third +thing you do is you start calling your senators and your repre- +sentatives, and the President of the United States and you start +leaning on them, and you tell them, 'Unless you straighten up the +government, and unless we start getting the truth, and I mean the +whole truth, and no more of this baloney, this is the last job +you're ever going to have, period. And I'll do everything in my +power to make sure that comes true.' And then write them, fre- +quently, saying the same thing. And then when they're in your +area, in their area offices, take a little delegation and go see +them, and make them understand that they're going to be living in +poverty because they're not going to have a job anymore come +election day. You see, the secret government may own the execu- +tive branch, but you people, all of us, we own the Congress, and +the Congress makes the laws, and the Congress can impeach the en- +tire executive branch! You also have the right to petition the +government for a redress of injuries. So you are powerful, +you've just forgotten that you're powerful, you've forgotten that +that vote that you haven't been doing every time election comes +around, that vote has abdicated your power. That vote you did +not cast abdicated your power and gave it to those who are sub- +verting the Constitution and are ruining this country." + A gentleman then asked, "What was traded to the aliens for +their technology?" + "People and animals," replied Cooper succinctly. + Another man asked, "Is the Soviet Union in on any of this?" + "The Soviet Union and the United States of America have been +close allies since the end of World War II and have been closely +participating in the secret space program all this time. The So- +viets have the same thing we have, yes. What you see happening +in the Soviet block right now is not the result of people stand- +ing up and saying, 'We want to be free.' It's the result of the +international bankers saying, 'You tear down these barriers, and +you meet the West half way, give your people some freedom, the +West is going to take some freedom away from their people so that +we can put together a one-world economic system ... and have all +the power. That's what's happening! If you don't believe it, +stick around and watch it!" + A dubious woman then asked, "Why was the shellfish poison +necessary? A lot of his brain was blown off anyway." + Cooper: "The shellfish poison? If you go to kill someone, +one thing I've learned, I learned it real good, I learned it es- +pecially good when I went to Vietnam; just because you shoot +someone doesn't mean they're going to die. And if they don't +die, they're going to be mad. And if they've got a gun, you're +dead. So you want the first time to be the last time. So if you +really want to kill somebody you don't play around. If you re- +ally want to kill somebody ... you kill them, you don't play, you +make sure that when you shoot them, they're dead. That way they +can't hurt you, can't hurt you at all." + Regrettably, the next question was totally unintelligible, +but thankfully Mr. Cooper had a good public address system to am- +plify his reply, "The first moon landing was May 22, 1962 ... or +excuse me, that was the first landing on Mars. I'm sorry, May +22, 1962, was the winged probe that used a hydrozine propeller, +flew around approximately three orbits and landed on May 22, +1962, was a joint United States/Russian endeavor. The first time +that we landed on the moon was sometime during the ... probably +middle 50s, because at the time when President Kennedy stated +that he wanted a man to set foot on the moon by the end of the +decade we already had a base there." + "What about Mars?" came another quick question. + "We have a base on Mars also," Cooper calmly replied. + "When did that happen?" + "I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name, +it was 'Adam and Eve.'" + "How long have you known about this?" + "Well, I revealed it publicly for the first time on July 2, +1989, and within three weeks of the time I revealed it publicly, +the government, to get the American people not to listen to me, +came out and said that they planned to build a base on the moon +and a colony on Mars. Now, three days previous to my speech, +representatives from NASA said, 'We can never have a colony on +Mars, it's impossible that there's a colony on Mars because Mars +is a dead planet.' And it's not a dead planet, they've lied to +you about Mars." + "My name is Dave [unintelligible], I'm a representative of +the Crystic Institute, and I'd like to know why it was that when +we sent a representative down to your home, at your request, you +failed to produce any documentation to substantiate your allega- +tions." + "In the first place it was not at my request, I have never +contacted the Crystic Institute in my life. I was on the Carol +Hemingway Show, she contacted the Crystic institute, she told +Daniel Shehan [sp] that I had just said something about Bush and +drugs on her show. He called me and told me he wanted to send an +investigator, in fact he told me to even help the investigator +because he was new at the job, his name was Wayne Nelson, he is a +very good gentleman, he stayed at my house for two days, slept +overnight on my couch, I gave him everything I had. I never told +Daniel Shehan that I had any documents and I never told Wayne +Nelson that I had any documents. In fact what I told Wayne Nel- +son, and I quote, 'Wayne, if I did have the documents I couldn't +admit it and I don't know you from Adam, and I don't know Daniel +Shehan from Adam and what makes you think I would give them to +you.' Who am I going to give them to and how quick are they +going to disappear, that was my thought. Wayne Nelson also came +to my house with a stack of documents this thick already +substantiating the presence of aliens and extraterrestrial craft +on this planet, and they are keeping it a secret, because they're +afraid somebody'll laugh at them and they'll loose their +credibility. + "We need some patriots in this country, not people trying to +make a name for themselves, trying to expose some drug runners, +because those are just the bag-men. The real crook is in the +White House! And you can tell that to Daniel Shehan!" + "Why didn't Jackie Kennedy report [the source of the lethal +shot]?" asked another audience member. + "Who's she going to tell? The Secret Service just killed her +husband, and they're assigned to protect the president. Also, +who had her children? The same Secret Service had her children at +the time." + "Wasn't the craft at Roswell, New Mexico, destroyed and all +the aliens killed?" another young man asked. + "All the aliens were dead but the craft was not completely +destroyed, it was severely damaged yes." + On an unrelated note an older gentleman asked, "Does that +mean that Alternative-3 is true?" + "Alternative-3 is absolutely true and so is Alternative-2." + Then a man in his late 20s or early 30s raised his hand, +said something unintelligible, and was apparently recognized by +Mr. Cooper, who asked him to take the podium and address the au- +dience. + "What I said was that I thanked him [Cooper] very much for +coming forward and saying something. A lot of my friends out +here know that I was involved in the United States Special +Forces, UFO Tracking and Research from the years 1971 to 1975. +My name is Richard Murray, I was based out of the 71st Tac Con- +trol Flight, McDill Air Force Base, Tampa, Florida. We were +'Mobile Radar Command,' that was combat and war ready. We could +be loaded on aircraft within an hour and many times were taken +into areas [to] set up radar. A lot of times we were set up +around Egland [sp] Air Force Base because that's where they have +the 'Altered Temperature Weather Control,' where they can test +various aircraft for their shrinkage and their dimension change +during altered temperature. So, you know, I was told to shut up +twice in 1982 and they finally threatened my parents life so I +stayed quiet, and, that's when Wendel Stevens was taken off the +streets ... Just like that! And I hid for quite awhile, and de- +cided to come back out when I heard that you're [Cooper] of such +high rank as you were, and I felt just in saying that your cre- +dentials are true, and that what you have to say, everything +you've said here today, I've heard before behind closed doors. +And you've really tied the link for me to the Kennedy killing. +And there's a few more links that have to go on with the Columbia +Cartel and the money laundering. I think there's more than one +cartel involved, and they're shutting one of them down so one can +maintain a power, it just seems to be the way it works." + A muffled question then came from someone in the audience +regarding the person referred to as "Colonel Stevens." + "Uh, Colonel Stevens is out of jail now," replied Murray who +was quickly asked another question I couldn't hear to which he +answered, "I sure hope to hell so, he is a wonderful man, and I +give him my utmost respect, and it was one of the saddest days in +my life to see what happened to him happen to him. But I don't +care what they say about Wendel Stevens, in my heart you can't +discredit that man to me. I don't care who the hell you are. I +won't listen to it, I don't give a shit if he was screwing ba- +bies. You know ... that doesn't ... he's not that kind of a man, +I don't care what you say, I know him personally." + The lecture was then essentially over. The "Alternative-2 +and Alternative-3" that were referred to briefly are (just +guessing now) two government contingency plans to 1. Declare +Martial Law and invalidate the Constitution on the premise that a +terrorist group had entered the country with a Nuclear weapon +with plans to detonate it in a major city. All dissidents would +be rounded up and placed in concentration camps and the press and +media would be nationalized. All this if the information becomes +public before they want it to or if the aliens attempt a +takeover, and 2. Another contingency plan to contain or delay the +release of this information, the details of which I am probably +wrong about anyway. + Mr. Cooper is a man who appears to be in his late 40s, of +medium height and weight, and was dressed casually during the +lecture. His hairline was receding slightly, and he carried him- +self with confidence and purpose. Bill Cooper, as he was called +by several in attendance, is not a professional speaker. His +presentation lacked the polish of repeated deliveries which all +the other lectures had during the Expo, but what it lacked in +fine tuning was easily made up for in its content. + + + Appendix A: Operation Majority + + +OPERATION MAJORITY +FINAL RELEASE +THERE WILL BE NO CORRECTIONS TO THIS FILE +(C) COPYRIGHT 1989 BY MILTON WILLIAM COOPER +ALL RIGHTS RESERVED +YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO QUOTE FROM THIS INFORMATION IN PRESS +RELEASES, PERIODICALS, AND SPEECHES. +INCLUSION IN ANY OTHER MEDIA REQUIRES MY EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMIS- +SION. + + This file contains the absolute true information regarding +the alien presence on Earth and the U.S. Government's involvement +with the aliens. + This file contains only the information as I saw it and only +my information. + It does not contain any information from any other source. + It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to +this release in a manner which would deceive the government until +someone was able to independently confirm my identity, my employ- +ment, my service record, my intelligence background, the identity +of the person to which I gave the information in 1972, his ac- +knowledgment of the information and when it was given to him, +that the information is correct, that I have not seen him since +1974, and that I have not communicated with him in any form since +1976. + This was necessary because this file is my death warrant if +MJ-12 continues to operate in a manner consistent with its his- +tory. + All in the last paragraph has been independently verified by +two different people who have no connection with each other. I +will only list one for obvious reasons. + Tony Pelham, journalist + Las Vegas Bullet + 300 West Boston + Las Vegas, Nevada 89102. + The original information that I first released was not much +MAJI that I was not a threat long enough to have independent ver- +ification of the facts before I risked death. [TRANSMISSION GAR- +BLED] + I wish to make it absolutely clear that I do not consider +myself a hero. + I believe that most of you would do the same thing if you +knew the truth. + I gave an oath that I would uphold and protect the Constitu- +tion of the United States of America and I take that oath very +seriously. + I am doing no more now than I did when I fought in Vietnam. + I am doing my duty. + Please make copies of this file and send it to your con- +gressman, your senator, the attorney general of the United +States, and the Supreme Court. + Send it also to everyone you know. + Attach copies of the Bill English file and John Lears file. + Send anything else you may have which tends to support the +information. + I, Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, Fullerton, +California, 92632, 1-714-680-9537, do solemnly swear that the in- +formation contained in this file is true and correct to the best +of my knowledge. + I swear that I saw this information in 1972 in the perfor- +mance of my duties as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team +of the Commander In Chief of the Pacific Fleet as a Petty Officer +in the U.S. Navy. + I swear that I underwent hypnotic regression in order to +make the information as accurate as possible. + I swear that I can and will take a lie detector test or any +other test of any reputable person's choosing in order to confirm +this information. + I swear that I can and will undergo hypnotic regression con- +ducted by any reputable and qualified doctor of any reputable +person's choosing in order to confirm this information. + I will not, however submit to any test or hypnosis by anyone +who is now or has ever been connected with the government in any +capacity for obvious reasons. + The following is brief listing of everything that I person- +ally saw and know from 1972 and does not contain any input from +any other source whatsoever. + MAJESTY was listed as the code word for the President of the +United States for communications concerning this information. + OPERATION MAJORITY is the name of the operation responsible +for every aspect, project, and consequence of alien presence on +Earth. + GRUDGE contains 16 volumes of documented information col- +lected from the beginning of the United States investigation of +Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) and Identified Alien Crafts +(IACs). + The project was financed by CIA confidential funds +(nonappropriated) and money from the illicit drug trade. Partic- +ipation in the illegal drug trade was justified in that it would +identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The +purpose of Project Grudge was to collect all scientific, techno- +logical, medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC sight- +ings and contacts with alien life forms. + This orderly file of collected information has been used to +advance the United States Space Program. + MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group. + President Eisenhower commissioned a secret society known as +THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts, +evidence, technology, lies and deception and find the truth of +the alien question. + The society was made up of 32 of the most prominent men in +the country in 1972 and the top 12 members were designated MJ-12. + MJ-12 has total control over everything. They are desig- +nated by the codes J-1, J-2, etc., all the way through the +members of the Jason Society. + The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Direc- +tor of MJ-12. + MJ-12 is responsible only to the President. + MJ-12 runs most of the world's illegal drug trade. + This was done to hide funding and thus keep the secret from +the Congress and the people of the United States. + It was justified in that it would identify and eliminate the +weak elements of our society. + The cost of funding the alien connected projects is higher +than anything you can imagine. + MJ-12 assassinated President Kennedy when he informed them +that he was going to tell the public all the facts of the alien +presence. + He was killed by the Secret Service agent driving his car, +and it is plainly visible in the film held from public view. + A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND +and it was described as only accessible by air. + It contains full living, recreational, and other facilities +for MJ-12 and the JASON SOCIETY. + It is code named "THE COUNTRY CLUB." Only those with TOP +SECRET/MAJIC clearance are allowed to go there. + MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE. + All information, disinformation, and intelligence is gath- +ered and evaluated by this agency. + This agency is responsible for all disinformation and oper- +ates in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelli- +gence Agency. + This is a very powerful organization, and all alien projects +are under its control. + MAJI is responsible only to MJ-12. + SIGMA is the project which first established communications +with the aliens and is still responsible for communications. + PLATO is the project responsible for diplomatic relations +with the aliens. + This project secured a formal treaty (illegal under the Con- +stitution) with the aliens. + The terms were that the aliens would give us technology. + In return, we agreed to keep their presence on earth a se- +cret, not to interfere in any way with their actions, and to al- +low them to abduct humans and animals. + The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list of abductees +on a periodic basis. + MAJIC is the security classification and clearance of all +alien connected material, projects, and information. + MAJIC means MAJI Controlled. + AQUARIUS is a project which compiled the history of alien +presence and their interaction with Homo Sapiens upon this planet +for the last 25,000 years and culminating with the Basque people +who live in the mountainous country on the border of France and +Spain and the Syrians. + GARNET is the project responsible for control of all infor- +mation and documents regarding this subject and accountability of +the information and documents. + PLUTO is a project to evaluate all UFO/IAC information per- +taining to space tel [TRANSMISSION GARBLED] + POUNCE is the project formed to recover all downed/crashed +craft and aliens. + REDLIGHT is the project to test fly recovered alien craft. + It is conducted at AREA 51 (DREAMLAND) in Nevada. + It was aided when the aliens gave us craft and helped us fly +them. + The initial project was somewhat successful in that we flew +a recovered craft, but it blew up in the air, and the pilots were +killed. + The project was suspended at that time until the aliens +agreed to help us. + SNOWBIRD was established as a cover for project REDLIGHT. +Several flying saucer type craft were built using conventional +technology. + They were unveiled to the press and flown in front of the +press. + The purpose was to explain accidental sightings or disclo- +sure of REDLIGHT as having been the SNOWBIRD craft. + LUNA is the alien base on the far side of the Moon. + It was seen and filmed by the Apollo astronauts. + A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and +the very large alien craft described in sighting reports as +MOTHER SHIPS exist there. + NRO is the National Recon Organization based at Fort Carson, +Colorado. + It is responsible for security for all alien or alien craft +connected projects. + DELTA is the designation for the specific arm of the NRO, +which is especially trained and tasked with security of these +projects. + JOSHUA is a project to develop a low frequency pulsed sound +generating weapon. + It was said that this weapon would be effective against the +alien craft and beam weapons. + EXCALIBUR is a weapon to destroy the alien underground +bases. It is to be a missile capable of penetrating 1000 meters +of Tuff/hard packed soil such as that found in New Mexico with no +operational damage. + Missile apogee not to exceed 30,000 feet AGL and impact must +not deviate in excess of 50 meters from designated target. + The device will carry a one-megaton nuclear warhead. + ALIENS: There were four types of aliens mentioned in the +papers. A LARGE NOSED GREY with whom we have the treaty, the +GREY reported in abductee cases that works for the LARGE NOSED +GREY, a blond human like type described as the NORDIC, a red +haired human like type called the ORANGE. + The home of the aliens were described as being a star in the +Constellation of Orion, Barnards star, and Zeta Riticuli 1&2. + I cannot remember even under hypnosis which alien belongs to +which star. + EBE is the name or designation given to the live alien cap- +tured at the 1949 Roswell crash. + He died in captivity. + KRLL OR KRLLL OR CRLL OR CRLLL pronounced Crill or Krill was +the hostage left with us at the first Holloman landing as a +pledge that the aliens would carry out their part of the basic +agreement reached during that meeting. + KRLL gave us the foundation of the yellow book which was +completed by the guests at a later date. + KRLL became sick and was nursed by Dr. G. Mendoza who became +the expert on alien biology and medicine. KRLL later died. + His information was disseminated under the pseudonym O.H. +Cril or Crill. + GUESTS were aliens exchanged for humans who gave us the bal- +ance of the yellow book. + At the time I saw the information there were only three left +alive. + They were called (P&#'s) Alien Life Forms. + [TRANSMISSION GARBLED] + RELIGION + The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens through hy- +bridization. + The papers said that RH-blood was proof of this. + They further claimed to have created all four major reli- +gions. + They showed a hologram of the crucifixion of Christ which +the government filmed. + They claim that Jesus was created by them. + ALIEN BASES exist in the four corners area of Utah, Col- +orado, New Mexico, and Nevada. + Six bases were described in the 1972 papers, all on Indian +reservations and all in the four corners area. The base near +Dulce was one of them. + MURDER + The documents stated that many military and government per- +sonnel had been terminated (murdered without due process of law) +when they had attempted to reveal the secret. + CRAFT RECOVERIES + The documents stated that many craft had been recovered. + The early ones from Roswell, Aztec, Roswell again, Texas, +Mexico, and other places. + GENERAL DOOLITTLE made a prediction that one day we would +have to reckon with the aliens, and the document stated that it +appeared that General Doolittle was correct. + ABDUCTIONS were occurring long before 1972. + The document stated that humans and animals were being ab- +ducted and or mutilated. + Many vanished without a trace. + They were taking sperm and ova samples, tissue, performed +surgical operations, implanted a spherical device 40 to 80 mi- +crons in size near the optic nerve in the brain and all attempts +to remove it resulted in the death of the patient. + The document estimated that one in every 40 people had been +implanted. + This implant was said to give the aliens total control of +that human. + CONTINGENCY PLAN SHOULD THE INFORMATION BECOME PUBLIC OR +SHOULD THE ALIENS ATTEMPT A TAKEOVER. + This plan called for a public announcement that a terrorist +group had entered the United States with an atomic weapon. + It would be announced that the terrorists planned to deto- +nate the weapon in a major city. + Martial law would be declared and all persons with implants +would be rounded up along with all dissidents and would be placed +into concentration camps. + The press, radio, and TV would be nationalized and con- +trolled. Anyone attempting to resist would be arrested or +killed. + CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY RELEASE OF INFORMATION + This plan called for the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a disin- +formation ploy to delay and confuse the release of information +should anyone get close to the truth. + It was selected because of the similarity of spelling and +the similarity to MJ-12. + It was designed to confuse memory and to result in a fruit- +less search for material that does not exist. + SOURCE OF MATERIAL CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENTS WHICH I SAW + The source of the material was an Office of Naval Intelli- +gence counter-intelligence operation against MJ-12 in order for +the Navy to find out the truth of what was really going on. + The Navy (at that time or at least the Navy that I worked +for) were not participants in any of this. + The different services and the government conduct this type +of operation against each other all the time. + The result of this operation was that the Navy cut them- +selves in for a piece of the action (technology) and control of +some projects. + As you can see this file is only a little different from my +previous file. + Only some names were scrambled previously to confuse the +government long enough for someone to verify that what I have +said is the truth. + I have added information in this file that puts me in abso- +lute danger. + I have sent a copy of this file to people all over the coun- +try and will continue to do so. + Please get this file into as many hands as you can and maybe +that will protect me but I doubt it. + HISTORY WILL BE THE JUDGE OF ME AND THIS INFORMATION, AND I +HAVE NO FEAR OF THAT JUDGEMENT. + I SWEAR THAT THIS INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE +BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. + I wish to thank all those people who have aided me in reach- +ing this point and for their patience and understanding. + I owe you all more than I can ever repay. + Finally, it does not matter who is right and who is wrong or +if a project name is in the wrong place. + It does not matter who is working for whom or what is really +what. + It should be obvious by now that something sinister and ter- +ribly wrong is going on involving the government and the UFO phe- +nomenon. + We must all band together and expose it now. + I have done my part in the best manner that I could. + I can add nothing else except my testimony in Congress or a +court of law that what I saw and have written in this file is +true and that I saw it. + Everything in my previous file that does not conflict with +this file is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and +some of it is from sources and research. + You may combine the files to get the entire picture. + Throw out only that information that conflicts with that +contained in this file. + There will be no further additions or corrections to this +information either now or in the future. + My file is complete and stands to be judged by history. + Sometime in the future the exact papers that I saw will sur- +face, and you will all see this exact information contained +within them. + Milton William Cooper + Jan. 10, 1989 + + + Appendix B: For More Information + + +Cooper's home address and phone number: + +1311 S. Highland #205 +Fullerton, Calif. 92632 +1-714-680-9537 + +That phone number connects you to an anonymous answering machine. + +This information was taken from the Bill Cooper answering com- +puter on 1-213-281-8222. + +For materials and bibliography, send $2 (no mention made of to +whom you should make out the check) and a 45-cent self-addressed +stamped envelope to: + +19744 Beach Blvd. Suite #301 +Huntington Beach, Calif. 92648 + +To talk to someone about ordering or available materials, call +Stan Barrington at 1-805-948-1255. He'll even call you back. +Here's what he had to offer as per my phone conversation with him +on Feb. 27, 1990: + +The real Kennedy assassination tape, $18. This is the unedited + Zapruder film that clearly shows the driver killing JFK. On + VHS tape. +Video of Cooper speech and workshop from Sedona, Ariz., $32. + This is a videotaped speech and workshop from Cooper that + also shows the Kennedy tape (not very clearly, though). I + think this is basically the same deal as the above tran- + script. On VHS tape. +"Secret Government," $12. Details, in 28 pages, the workings of + the secret subgovernment in the U.S. since 1947. +"Operation Majority," $12. Details the goings on and structure + of Operation Majority, the people who run all UFO-related ac- + tivities. +"Jason Society," $12. List of 51 scientists, last updated in + 1987, who work for Operation Majority. The group is still + trying to find the last three scientists who are Jason Soci- + ety members. + +For any of the above, send a check to: + +Stan Barrington +2059 E. Ave. I #11 +Lancaster, Calif. 93535 + +Barrington says that the target date for one-world government is +1992. + +To invite Cooper to speak or be on TV, call Jeff Patterson or +Scott Reid at 1-213-657-8004. + +Cooper's manager is Michael Callan, at 1-213-550-8368. + +Cooper was in Atlanta on Feb. 25. For information call Sam +Matthews at 1-404-435-4233. + +This is the journalist whom Cooper mentions in his Operation Ma- +jority file. This person supposedly can verify the facts: + +Tony Pelham +Las Vegas Bullet +300 West Boston +Las Vegas, Nevada 89102 + +For the book Alien Magic by William Hamilton, which has all kinds +of pictures from a secret lab, write: + +Robert Girard +P.O. Box 83183 +Stone Mountain, Ga. 30083-0023 +1-404-297-4624 + + + Appendix C: Musings + + + There is some thought that the U.S. Air Force, in conjunc- +tion with the Canadians, has standing orders to deny any UFO +sightings to the public. + Timothy Good, in his book Above Top Secret, states: +"Cooperation between the United States and Canada in the report- +ing of UFOs was laid down, for example, in the Canadian-United +States Communications Instructions for Reporting Vital Intelli- +gence Sightings (CIRVIS) JANAP 146 (E), issued in March 1966 by +the Joint Chiefs of Staff as well as the Canadian Defense Staff. +This publication lists instructions for the reporting of +'information of vital importance to the security of the United +States of America and Canada and their forces, which in the opin- +ion of the observer, requires very urgent defensive and/or inves- +tigative action by the U.S. and/or Canadian armed forces.' Sight- +ings within the scope of JANAP 146 include 'Unidentified Flying +Objects' as distinct from 'Hostile of unidentified single air- +craft or formations of aircraft,' and there are lengthy and elab- +orate instructions for reporting UFOs" (Good, 192). + And later he states: "Because of reports like these [UFOs], +airline pilots became subject to military restrictions contained +in a Joint Army-Navy-Air Force Publication (JANAP), drawn up by +the Joint Communications-Electronics Committee, and promulgated +by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and could thus find themselves li- +able to a prison term of up to 10 years and/or a fine of $10,000 +if they discussed their sightings with the media or public" +(Good, 283). + + * * * + + Stan Barrington offers a document about "Operation Majority, +which concerns the dealings of MJ-12. The following discussion, +taken from the alt.conspiracy section of Usenet, focuses on the +validity of those documents: + "What is the latest status of the MJ-12 documents +(concerning authenticity)? I know that Klass did his usual de- +bunking job, but also read that Friedman produced all the sup- +porting evidence Klass had demanded (similar typefaces in use on +other documents of the same era, etc.). Has the U.S. Government +taken a formal position on the MJ-12 documents? What evidence, +pro and con, has been produced on the authenticity issue since +their release. What are the details of the release? Any and all +information will be appreciated. Thanks." + The reply was: "I don't know about the U.S. Government's +position, but Klass has done a pretty good job of showing that +there is at least some fraud in the papers. In particular, he +has shown that the supposed signature of Harry Truman on one of +the critical papers is identical to the signature on another +document in the National Archives, except that it's (if I recall +correctly) 3.6 percent larger. It is impossible for two +signatures to be identical unless one is a photographic copy of +the other, and interestingly, most copying machines do a very +small expansion of what they copy to prevent edge effects--a +blow-up of exactly 1.2 percent. So it would appear this supposed +signature is actually a third-generation photocopy of Truman's +signature. Handwriting experts have confirmed this. I believe +it's written up in the current (Spring 1990) Skeptical Inquirer, +but I can't find my copy at the moment so I can't say for sure." + I don't know who Klass or Friedman are, (although Friedman +may be the same person that was mentioned as a helper in Majestic +by Whitley Strieber, and also mentioned as a government official +in the speech) but the Skeptical Inquirer is a respected paranor- +mal debunking newspaper put out by James "the Amazing" Randi. + It also seems to me that the idea that Truman's signature is +a photocopy of another one in the National Archives is a bit odd. +There must be thousands of Truman signature in the Archives, and +thinking that someone could find the one that exactly matched a +3.6 percent enlargement is laughable (but then again, those same +people find the idea of a huge UFO cover-up laughable). + + * * * + + Whitley Strieber is a strange character in this whole af- +fair. He is the writer of Wolfen and The Howling, two horror +novels. Lately, he turned to writing about UFOs. + His first book on the subject, Communion, deals with his +personal experiences with abduction by an unknown intelligence +(Strieber always tries to avoid the word "alien," so he can leave +the options open that these are humans that are traveling through +time or even an unknown earthly intelligence). His second book, +Transformation, is not as familiar to me, but I have heard that +it is more of the same as Communion, except that it is less well- +supported and deals with a sort of religion of the unknown. +Strieber contends in that book that the "others" (as he calls +them) gave him a sketchy design for an anti-gravity motor that +relies on rotating magnets. + His third book is Majestic. Milton William Cooper mentions +it in his speech. This book follows the Cooper speech closely in +many regards; in fact, sometimes it seems like one is stealing +>from the other because they are so close. Strieber writes this +book as fiction, but at the end there is a section in which he +says that the book is based on truth and that the government is +hiding information from the public. He insists that this truth +must be brought out. However, Cooper says that Strieber is work- +ing for the government. He offers some proof to this claim, but +he doesn't really say why the government would hire Strieber to +write Majestic, or whether he was hired before he wrote Communion +and Transformation. All Cooper says is that Strieber is testing +the waters, leaking the information in a way that the government +could deny. + I think that if Strieber works for the government, then it +is mostly likely because the government thinks that people will +not believe anything he writes about UFOs, given his history of +writing horror. Thus, the government has Strieber write some- +thing that is based on truth, and everyone thinks it is coming +>from such a bad source that it must be false. + + * * * + + This from Keith Rowell in Oregon: + "You folks interested in Strieber's claims should check out +the book Report on Communion (Morrow, 1989) by Ed Conroy. + "Conroy is a San Antonio-based freelance reporter who wrote +some early articles for the local newspaper and then continued to +explore and investigate till he ended up with a book. He basi- +cally concludes that Strieber's claims are true as far as we now +understand the UFO phenomenon, which is very far from adequate at +this time. (The scholarly and scientific establishment has yet +to honestly and openly embrace the problem of the UFO. Conroy's +book is opening the way for the investigative media people, +though. Things are changing as the UFO issue just refuses to go +away.) You will all hear more and more about the reality status +of UFOs as we go through the 1990s. Intelligence establishment +secrecy is being slowly broken down and the scientific/scholarly +community is slowly putting up less resistance as the years go +by. + "My opinions are based on 15 years of reading the UFO liter- +ature and four years or so of more or less active participation +in the UFO community. It is very hard to understand what is go- +ing on in the UFO community without paying very close attention +to it. The normal sources of news and information cover this +group of people in a very inconsistent and sometimes downright +biased way. You're just going to have to get your feet wet on +this one; otherwise, you'll just being talking through your hat. + "I'll be happy to send via electronic mail my representative +UFO bibliography to anyone who wants it. Lately, new (and sig- +nificant) UFO books are added practically monthly in the past few +years. UFOs are hot again. We seem to be in a peak of activity +again. + "The latest significant book is by Ed Walters on his Gulf- +breeze UFO/photograph experiences, being distributed to your lo- +cal bookstores as I write this." + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2819.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2819.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..11e6451f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2819.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,446 @@ +SUBJECT: ROSWELL WITNESS LINKAGE FILE: UFO2819 + + + +This is an article that was posted on Paranet not long ago +and germane to the infamous Roswell case a number of years +ago. + +----------Begin included text------------------------------ + + + + +Here is an article that was contributed by Sandy Barbre regarding an article +which appeared in a Springfield, MO newspaper on December 9, 1990. +============================================================ +CONTRIBUTED BY: Sandy Barbre +December 17, 1990 +============================================================ +The following was taken from a newspaper from Springfield, Missouri, +dated Sunday, December 9th, 1990. The name of the newspaper I think, +is the NEWS-LEADER and article is in the section called Ozarks Accent. + +-+-------------- + +TITLED: NOTED EXPERT FINDS ACCOUNT CONVINCING. +BY: Mike O'Brien + + What sets Gerald Anderson apart from the thousands of other + American's, including scores of Ozarkers, who say they've seen + UFO's or even insist they've been kidnapped by creatures from + outer space? + + Why are Gerald Anderson's childhood recollections stirring + international interest among UFO researchers whose reputations + have been built on healthy skepticism and willingness to + debunk hoaxes? + + Because of little things he has to say and how he says them. + + Stanton Friedman, a nuclear physicist who has lectured on more + than 600 college campuses about UFOs, describes Anderson as "a + really significant, potentially the most important" witness to + what both men believe was the aftermath of one of two space + craft crashes in New Mexico in mid-summer 1947. + + Friedman is co-authoring a book based upon several years of + painstaking investigation into the haunting mystery. He was + startled, upon meeting Anderson for the first time only a few + months ago, to hear the Springfieldian echo details of the yet + to be published research. + + "There's no way he could know some of these things unless he + had been there at the time," Friedman believes. + + Example: only days before first talking with Anderson, + Friedman coaxed a heretofore reluctant New Mexico mortician + into recounting a run-in he'd had in 1947 with an especially + unpleasant red-headed captain who was heading up a team + recovering bodies from a hush-hush aircraft crash. Anderson, + too, spoke of a red-headed captain with a mean disposition. + Friedman says the descriptions of the ornery officer provided + by the two match precisely, although Anderson and the mortician + never have met. + + In sketches of the desert crash scene drawn by Anderson in + Springfield following a hypnosis, a lonely windmill appears in + the distance. When Friedman later arranged for Anderson to + return to New Mexico to pinpoint the long-ago crash site, no + such windmill could be see on the horizon-- until, almost by + accident, the windmill wa spotted behind tress that had grown + up during the 43 years since Anderson was last there. + + "I got shivers over that one," says John Carpenter, who has + extensively debriefed Anderson over the past 4 months and went + along on Anderson's return trip to New Mexico in October. + + Carpenter holds degrees in psychology and psychiatric social + work from DePauw and Washington universities and trained in + clinical hypnosis at the Menninger Institute. He's in his + 12th year of work at a psychiatric hospital facility in + Springfield. + + "When Gerald tells his story, it's not just a story -- it's + his life he's telling you, intermixed with his feelings and + his beliefs and all that is Gerald," Carpenter says. + + "When someone is spinning a hoax or tale, they only give you + enough to raise your curiosity. Not Gerald. He gives you + everything, in detail, much more than you ask him for. He'd + be setting himself up to be found out if it wasn't true. He's + so confident, he goes so much further than a hoaxer would ever + dare." + + Carpenter puts great stock in Anderson's recountings under + hypnosis. "It's what he didn't say that was significant." + Carpenter says, explaining that despite clever prodding, + Anderson never committed a hoaxer's mistake of "recalling" + something that shouldn't be a part of his own memory. + + "And when he's under hypnosis, all the bigger, adult words + drop out when he describes events from his childhood," + Carpenter found. "He relates what he was in child-like + terms." + + Carpenter also detected "genuine amazement" when Anderson + heard what had been dredged from his subconscious memory under + hypnosis. "The look on his face was priceless when he realized + he'd produced details he'd forgotten on a conscious level so + long ago." + + Most subtle but perhaps most telling, in Carpenter's view, was + Anderson's reaction to being accepted as a viable witness to + an extraordinary encounter with a spacecraft and creatures from + beyond Earth. + + "He was so grateful at being taken seriously. You could see + the relief and release after all those years, and the great + hope that other people would take him seriously too, once and + for all." + + Ironically, Friedman points to Gallup Poll results indicating + that 60 percent of Americans who have college degrees say they + believe UFOs are real. With such a receptive constituency, + why would government officials persist in what Friedman calls + the "Cosmic Watergate" -- the cover-up and denial of the New + Mexico crashes? Perhaps, some speculate, because it would be + too embarrassing now to admit that some supposedly made-in-USA + technologies actually were plagiarized from confiscated + spacecraft. + + Friedman emphasizes that he's not as interested in uncovering + past misdeeds as he is in encouraging future progress. + + "I believe we should have an 'Earthling" orientation rather + than nationalistic orientation. The easiest way to + demonstrate the wisdom of this is to prove that life forms + from other planets are coming here. If we can do that, then + everyone will be forced to look at our world differently, as a + part of a galactic neighborhood." + +-+-----end. + +The second part of the Springfield newspaper, dated December 9th, +1990 is as follows: + +Titled: Fact or Fantasy? Springfieldian seeks validation of UFO + encounter 43 years ago. + +Written by: Mike O'Brien + +ALSO NOTE: the actual newspaper article shows a scene of the UFO +crash drawn by Gerald Anderson and also a sketch of a creature he +believes was a visitor from another galaxy. + +-+-------------begin story-------------- + + To a 5-year-old kid from Indianapolis, the mountains and mesas +and vast scrubland surrounding Albuquerque seemed an alien world. + "I was in awe" recalls Gerald Anderson of his arrival in New +Mexico with his family in July 1947. "I was in the wild +frontier. There were real, live Indians out there." + Then says Anderson, on his second day in the Southwest he +bumped into real,live creatures from a truly alien world. + There were four -- two dead, on dying, one apparently +uninjured. The creatures were about 4 feet tall, with heads +disproportionately large for their bodies by human measure and +almond-shaped, coal black eyes. They huddled in the shadow of +50-ft-diameter silver disk - a "flying saucer" that had crashed +into a low hillside on the rim of what locals call the Plains of +San Augustin. + Anderson, a former police chief at Rockaway Beach and Taney +County deputy sheriff who now works as a security officer in +Springfield, is adamant about events on the hot midsummer day so +long ago. + "I saw them. I even touched one of the creatures. I put my +hand on their ship. And I wasn't alone - my dad, my uncle, my +brother and my cousin all saw the same things. And so did a lot +of other people. But they aren't talking. + Anderson is talking, publicly, after 43 years of silence. + Among those listening most intently are some of the foremost +researchers into unidentified flying object (UFO phenomena. +These experts say Gerald Anderson appears to be an important link +in a frustratingly fragmented chain of evidence concerning the +most famous - or infamous - chapter in UFO annals: the so called +"Roswell Incident." + No one denies that "something" happened in July 1947 in +central New Mexico, cradle of U.S. nuclear and rocket technology. +However, military authorities insist reports of strange craft in +the sky and bizarre wreckage on the ground were traced at the time +to an errant weather balloon and other manmade or natural +circumstance. + Nonetheless, over the years, persistent whispered rumors grew +into published articles and books, even movies, which fanned +speculation that what actually occurred was a visit by creatures +>from another planet - an intergalactic expedition that turned to +tragedy on the high desert and then into a massive cover-up in the +highest circles of the U.S. government. + Anderson says he was unaware of ongoing fascination and +controversy over the strange episode from his childhood until one +evening this past January when he was flipping through channels +on his television set and stumbled across the popular program +"Unsolved Mysteries." + "I wasn't looking for any unsolved mysteries - I have enough +mysteries in my life that are unsolved, and I don't need any +more," Anderson jokes. He is a burly, barrel-chested man +standing 6-4 and carrying a muscular 250-plus pounds, with +reddish hair and a ruddy complexion creased from easy laughter. + "But, bingo! On comes this story, and everything was wrong," +Anderson recalls of the TV show. On sudden impulse, he dialed an +800 phone number that flashed onto the screen. "I guess I figured +that if people were still interested in this thing, they might as +well get it straight" is the only explanation he can muster for +speaking up after years of keeping mostly mum on the matter. + "These people don't know what they're talking about," Anderson +told the operator on the other end of the long-distance line. +"The shape of the craft is totally wrong. 'And how do you know +that, sir?" she asked. ' I saw it, I was there,' I told her. +"Whoa!" she said. "Thee are some people who will want to talk to +you...'" + Anderson's phone soon was ringing with calls from UFO +researchers around the country. One in particular, Stanton +Friedman, a nuclear physicist and popular lecturer who had +advised the "Unsolved Mysteries" producers, was struck by +correlations between Anderson's recollections and obscure +details Friedman uncovered while sleuthing for a book to be +published next year. + Friedman, who lives in Canada, contacted John Carpenter, a +Springfield professional therapist who in his spare time serves as a +director of investigations for the local chapter of Mutual UFO +Network, a nationwide organization of UFO researchers. At Friedman's +request, Carpenter conducted extensive in person interviews of +Anderson, including sessions under hypnosis. + The results excited Friedman. "Powerful stuff!" he exclaimed upon +hearing interview tapes. Friedman arranged airline tickets for +Anderson and Carpenter to join him in New Mexico to pinpoint the crash +site. + Anderson says the flight was his first return to New Mexico in more +than a quarter-century. After pointing the pilot of a chartered +helicopter to a spot in the desert 75 air miles southwest of +Albuquerque, Anderson gazed at a hillside, strewn with boulders the +size of Volkswagens and dotted with a few gnarled pinion trees, that +he says he saw in the summer of 1947..... + +A NEW HOME + + The Anderson family arrived in Albuquerque from Indiana on July 4, +1947. they took up temporary residence at the home of one of Gerald's +uncles, Guy Anderson. Gerald's father, Glen, was about to take a job +as a master machinist involved in nuclear weapons design at the +super-secret Sandia base on the outskirts of town. + The next day, another uncle, Ted, struck up a conversation with +Gerald's older brother Glen Jr., who was on leave from the Marine +Corps. Glen Jr. was a rockhound, and his uncle piqued the young +Marine's enthusiasm with talks of gorgeous stones just waiting to be +collected in the desert. + " Ted told my brother, ' I know where there's plenty of moss agate.' +So we all piled into a 1940 Plymouth - Uncle Ted, my cousin Victor +(Ted's 8 year old son), my brother, Glen, my dad and myself. We went +out into this area where the moss agate was supposed to be - followed +two ruts into the desert, bounced along out there for a while, and +ended up on top of a ridgeline. We parked the car and started to walk +down an arroyo (gully) and dry creek bed and out onto the plains. + + +A STRANGE DISCOVERY + + "But we came around a corner and right there in front of us stuck +into the side of this hill, was a silver disc. There were some +remarks like"There's a crash up here! Something's crashed up here! And +then someone saying 'That's a goddamn spaceship!" +"We all went up there to it. There were three creatures, three +bodies, lying on the ground underneath this thing in the shade. Two +weren't moving and the third one obviously was having trouble +breathing, like when you have broken ribs. There was a fourth one +next to it, sitting there on the ground. There wasn't a thing wrong +with it, and it apparently had been giving first aid to the others. + Anderson animatedly acts out the fourth creature's reaction when +the family members approached. "It recoiled in fear, like it thought +we were going to attack it," anderson recounts, covering his face with +crossed arms. The adults tried to repeatedly to communicate with the +frightened creature, Anderson says, but there was no audible response +to greetings spoken in English and Spanish. + A few minutes after the Anderson clan happened upon the bizarre +scene, six other people arrived - five college students and their +teacher. They'd been working on an archaeological dig around cliff +dwellings a few miles away and had decided to hike over after seeing +what they thought was a firey meteor crashing the night before. The +professor, a Dr. Buskirk, tried several foreign languages in +unsuccessful attempts to coax a verbal response from the creature, +Anderson says. + The sun had climbed to a midday peak by this time and recalls +anderson, "to a kid from Indiana, it was hot brother, let me tell +you." He chugged a chocolate flavored soft drink an hour earlier and +the sweet soda pop was churning uncomfortably in his stomach. so he +sought shelter in the shadow of the spacecraft. + "It was 115 (degrees) out there that day. But around the craft, +when you got close to it, it was cold. When you touched the metal, it +felt just like it came out of a freezer." + +SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT + + Anderson also touched one of the creatures lying motionless on the +ground - and it, too was cold. In his child's mind, he had thought the +figures looked like dolls. But when he felt the cold skin, " I knew +something wasn't quite right. Yuck!. + Anderson says he ran to the crest of a nearby knoll to take stock. A +pickup truck arrived on the ridge, and a fellow whom researchers believe +was a civil engineer named Barney Barnett joined the curious audience. "I +remember thinking he looked like Harry Truman. In 1947, every kid knew +what Harry Truman looked like," Anderson says. + After a few minutes, Anderson summoned the courage to again creep close +to the strange saucer. It was then more chilling than the surface of the +craft of the skin of the corpse; The upright creature turned and looked +right at me and it was like he was inside my head - as if he was doing my +thinking, as if his thoughts were in my head." + Anderson remembers a mental sensation of falling and tumbling +end-over-end. "I felt that thing's fear, felt its depression, felt its +loneliness. I relived the crash. I know the terror it went through. That +one look told me everything that quickly," he says with a snap of his +fingers. + + Other things began happening quickly about this time, Anderson says. A +contingent of armed soldiers suddenly appeared. The creature, which had +calmed down after its initial fright, "went crazy" at the sight of the +soldiers. Thinking back on the creature's plight today brings on the +"awfulest, horrible feeling," Anderson says. + "His situation was hopeless. He knew it. He'd just lived through a +nightmare that most of us wouldn't be able to psychologically stand. He'd +watched two of his crew, his friends or maybe even his family die. He's +watching another one die. He knows there's no chance of rescue, because the +military is here and his people aren't going to be able to get him. + "God only knows how far away from home he was, and he knew he was never +going to see - if they have loved ones - his loved ones again. He was +totally alone on a hostile planet, and the only people who where showing +him kindness were being run off by the military at weapon-point. + "As a kid, I was aware of what being afraid of the dark was like., and +the feeling I got from him was that feeling multiplied a million times. It +was scary. It was terrifying. + + +SOLDIERS ON THE SCENE + + Anderson says he lost sight of the creature as the soldiers swarmed over +the site. The civilians were brusquely shoved from the craft. Anderson +remembers shouts and threats. His uncle Ted threw a punch at one of +the GIs. "Things got very tense, very dangerous," Anderson says. +"The soldiers ushered us out of there very unceremoniously. Their +attitude, to describe it at best, was uncivilized." + Anderson has an especially vivid memory of a tough-talking red +haired Army captain and an equally gruff black sergeant. "They told +my dad and my uncle, who also worked at Sandia, that if they were ever +to divulge anything about this - it was a secret military aircraft, +they said - then us kids would be taken away and they'd never see us +again." It seems an outrageous threat in hindsight, Anderson +concedes. But at the time, he reminds, "These people had machine guns +and you listened to what they said." + Another recollection strikes Anderson as odd today: The soldiers +didn't appear surprised about the otherwordly craft and creatures. +they didn't gawk, slack-jawed and awe-struck as the Andersons had done. +"The soldiers weren't saying, 'Gee, look at that!" They were very +cognizant of what they were looking at. They knew what it was. + And it soon became apparent, Anderson says, that the Army knew what +it wanted to do with the find. "there was a battalion of military, a +real invasion force, when we got back up on the hilltop. There were +trucks, there were airplanes - they had the road blocked off and they +were landing on it. They had radio communications gear set up. There +were ambulances, and more soldiers with weapons." + In the days that followed, all of New Mexico was abuzz with talk of +strange lights in the sky, strange echos on radar, strange doings in +the desert. On July 7, new reports told of remnants of an +unidentified aircraft found by a rancher near the town of Roswell, +N.M. about 150 miles east of the hillside where the Anderson's stumbled +upon the saucer. + Although several witnesses said it was like nothing they'd ever +seen before, military officers insisted the metallic pieces came from +an ordinary weather balloon..... + +A WEATHER BALLOON? + + Forty three years later, Anderson smiles wryly when reminded of the +Army's pronouncement, "A lot of people wondered why, if it was just a +weather balloon, the military put the pieces under armed guard and flew +them in a B-29 to Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio," he observes. + Anderson believes the wreckage scattered near Roswell and the barely +damaged saucer on the Plains of San Augustin are connected. "There was a +gash in the side of the disc we saw, like it had been crushed in," he says. +"The contour of the craft would fit into that gash perfectly - like another +one of these things had hit it. I think two of these discs had a mid-air +collision. One exploded and feel in pieces near Roswell, and the other +crash-landed where we found it. + With all evidence confiscated and the military steadfastly sticking +by the weather balloon explanation, the story faded from the news by July's +end. And Gerald Anderson says he tucked away the memory as he grew into +manhood. "I learned you just don't go up to the average person on the +street and say, "Damn, know what I saw?" The guy will go, "Get away from +me, fool! Are you crazy?" In later life, he didn't mention it even to his +wife until a few years after their marriage. + Anderson joined the Navy in the late 1950s and served a dozen years in +posts around the globe. He lived for a few years in Colorado, working as a +paramedic and working toward a college degree in microbiology. In 1979, he +moved to Missouri to better raise his daughter away from what he terms the +"druggy" atmosphere of Denver. In addition to his law enforcement posts, +Anderson has worked for two southwest Missouri trucking firms as a driver +and instructor. + Anderson also has been active in the Episcopal Church. He recently was +elected to the vestry at Ascension Episcopal in Springfield and is studying +toward becoming a deacon. A gold crucifix - a cross complete with a +figure of the martyred Christ affixed to it - suspended from a chain around +Anderson's neck is testimony to his faith. + + +NO CONFLICT IN BELIEFS + + Although he concedes his account might make some fellow churchgoers +uncomfortable, Anderson sees no conflict between what he saw with his eyes +and what he believes in his heart: "When you're talking about the concept +of God, you have to be talking in the context of a universal situations, a +deity that built the whole universe. And why should we assume that this +speck of sand in the backwater of space would be the only place that an +all-perfect, almighty God could create life?" + In fact, Anderson says he "wouldn't be one bit surprised to find out +that, wherever this creature came from, there they have a very strong +concept of a supreme being. Because of my contact with the creature showed +a high degree of civilized sophistication, gentleness, compassion - all of +the things we hold as ideals." + Of the five anderson men who ventured into the desert that day in 1947, +only Gerald is still alive. Age, illness and accidents claimed the other +four in recent years. But not only andersons were at the scene, Gerald +says, and he hopes his decision to come forth, albeit belated, will +encourage others to tell what they know and spur official revelations about +the captured craft and creatures. + "I want to see the government stand up and say, 'Look, we're not alone +in the universe. + Let's make a 'Star Trek' really happen. Let's do go out there and explore +the universe. That may be our only salvation. Because with what's doing to +this Earth, we're not going to make it much past the year 2000." + +-+-----end of story-------------- + +EOF + + +************************************** +* FROM THE U.F.O. BBS - 408-847-7910 * +************************************** diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2820.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2820.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b42eb999 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2820.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,50 @@ + +SUBJECT: CITY, UFO LECTURE FILE: UFO2820 + + + + Title: City + + Author: UFO's will be topic of lecture - Unidentified Flying Objects will be the theme of a lecture and slide presentation in Battelle Auditorium on the 13th. + + Date: 01/07/94 + + Donald R. Schmitt, Director of the Special Investigation Center + for UFO Studies, will speak at 7 p.m. + + Schmitt will discuss an alleged crash of a UFO in the Roswell + Army Air Field in New Mexico. + + "On July 3, 1947, a rancher came across the wreckage of an alien + spacecraft in the high desert of New Mexico," Kevin D. Randle + and Donald R. Schmitt wrote. Their book "UFO Crash At Roswell" + also claims that four bodies of extraterrestrials were found + near the crash site. + + The Roswell crash was covered up by Washington, according to + a Center for UFO Studies press release. + + Witnesses and the press were threatened, and documents were withheld, + the press release said. + + Pentagon classification of the Roswell incident is top secret + even today, according to Schmitt and Randle. + + Randle and Schmitt said they have over 500 testimonies proving + the incident is a discovery of intelligent life beyond Earth. + They said the testimonies chronicle every moment of the Roswell + event. + + Schmitt and Randle's book will soon be made into a major motion + picture according to a flier for the speech. + + MIDOHIO Research Associates, Inc. and the OSU Branch of the American + Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics are sponsoring the + event. + + -Heather McGurk + + +************************************** +* FROM THE U.F.O. BBS - 408-847-7910 * +************************************** diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2821.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2821.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c339e383 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2821.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,854 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO HISTORY II 1/4 FILE: UFO2821 + + + + + + + + GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN THE UFO COVERUP: + + +CHRONOLOGY: (Based on FOIA Papers and personal testimony) Version 2.09 + + + + + COPYRIGHT SEPTEMBER 8, 1988 by PEA RESEARCH + ULTRA MAJIC BBS, + + + ............................................................ + + + (UFOHIST2.TXT PART2 Conclusion) + + + + +Early 1960's...Frank Scully dies. (Author of "Behind the Flying +Saucers".) + +Aug. 13, 1960..Red Bluff, CA: CHP Officers Charles A. Carson and +Stanley Scott were on patrol when they sighted what they thought was an +airliner about to crash. When the UFO had descended to about 100 or 200 +feet altitude it suddenly reversed direction and climbed to 500 ft. +Description: round or oblong surrounded by a glow (color not mentioned) +and having definite red lights at each end. They continued to watch the +UFO as it performed "unbelievable" aerial feats. The local RADAR +operator confirmed the UFO at this time but denied it the next day. +Other Tehema County Sheriffs' officers also saw this UFO and another +similar one that same night. (NICAP, 1964) + +May, 1961......In the May issue of "Fate" magazine, Master Sgt. O.D. +Hill admits that we are still loosing Air Force planes to UFOs. The +first case was an F-86 jet fighter that was sent aloft to investigate +an UFO that had been plotted on the Radar scope of an Air Base (name +and dates classified). The Radar Operator spied the UFO heading +straight for the craft. The operator radioed for the F-86 to climb at +once, but it was too late. The two blips merged as one and the UFO was +tracked moving away. Classified as "mysterious" not a single shred of +the F-86 was ever found. (ref. Kinross AFB where an F-89 with crew of +two merged with an UFO and disappeared.-Donald Keyhoe) + +Second Case: A radar operator was tracking a transport plane carrying +26 persons aboard when, suddenly, another blip appeared on the screen +closing at 2500 mph on the transport. Before the operator could warn +the transport the two blips emerged as one. The remaining blip sped +straight up at tremendous speed. A surface search in the vicinity +revealed no oil slicks on the water, although a Generals' briefcase was +found floating around. (see 4/1/59;9/29/59) + +1961-1963......Near Nellis AFB, NE: "Mat", a radio maintenance engineer +at Nevada's AEC between 1961-1963, provided evidence to the MUFON +Journal that Project REDLIGHT was secretly being conducted at nearby +"Area 51", a 50-mile-square quadrant of land east of Nellis AFB. This +Project "involved flight-testing of an UFO which had been shipped there +from Edwards AFB." The craft flew silently, was about 20 to 30 ft. in +diam., and had no wings or tail. + +Apr. ,1962.....Flight Commander P.J. (initials), attached to TAC +Fighter Wing was deployed at Wright-Patterson AFB and mistakenly broke +into an air hanger where he thought the gym was located. Upon entering +the hanger he was approached by an air police sentry with a sub-machine +gun. Behind the sentry was a saucer approx. 12-15 ft. diam. suspended +off the ground by two engine test stands. There were no markings or +insignia on the saucer. It had no rivet markings. The saucer was roped- +off and 8 guards stood at parade rest around it. P.J. and his friend +were encouraged to leave the hanger. P.J. returned to MyrtleBeach AFB, +S.C. + +July 17, 1963..A passenger of a Convair-880 related to UFO +investigator, James Moseley, that the 4 engined jet airliner she had +been flying in was pursued by an UFO. The jet , traveling at 600 mph, +made a sharp turn to avoid the UFO, now rapidly closing in on the +plane. Just as they were about to collide, the UFO swerved away at +fantastic speed and disappeared in the night sky. When the (unnamed) +woman confronted the pilot about the incident, he said, "I wouldn't +dare risk telling the airline of the incident. If I could tell you of +some of the experiences my buddies have had, you'd never fly again!" + +Apr. 15, 1964..USAF Intelligence officer meets with 2 Aliens at +prearranged location in the desert of New Mexico. Project SIGMA +operates at AFB, New Mexico. (see 1959) + +Oct., 1964.....Air Force and Army radar stations tracked an UFO as it +hovered over and flew along the demilitarized zone between North and +South Korea. The UFO was visible for over an hour. + +Dec. 10, 1964..Fort Riley, KA: Recovery of Saucer by A.K. (initials). +(see 11/00/65) + +Dec. 19, 1964..MEMO to Chief, Contact Division: NICAP case #(censured): +Subject: UFOs over Patuxent Navel Air Station between 1500 and 1530 +hours. Two UFOs approached Air Base at 3800 mph. Another UFO approached +at 6000 mph. Radar operator, Chief Pinkerton had visual on Radar. US +Coast Guard had "visual" on the UFOs. OFFICIAL statement to press: the +(single) blip was caused by faulty radar equipment! (see 1/25/65) + +Jan. 25, 1965..MEMO to Chief, Contact Division: NICAP Case #(censured). +(see 12/19/64) + +1965...........While visiting the Air Force Museum in Fairborn, Ohio, +R.M. (initials), a government employee of 23 yrs., went through a +double- door marked "Off Limits" and suddenly came face to face with an +Alien in a self contained space suite. Description: About 4.5 ft. tall +with a translucent dome over its' large head; wasn't human; large eyes +under a heavy brow; no noticeable nose; a slit for a mouth; bluish +skin. When the creature walked it didn't bend its' knees. R.M. later +found out from a retired Air Force Colonel from Wight-Patterson AFB, +that 2 live Aliens were held in captivity in an artificial environment. +The Colonel also said that a 2-man sized craft crashed near Whitewater +Lake, Indiana, as a result of an electrical disturbance in the +atmosphere. [The Alien would have to lock his knees in a high-gravity +environment to avoid falling down.] + +Feb. 11, 1965..Personal Interview report by Capt. D.M. (initials): +Aerial encounter of three UFOs with radar and visual sightings. Air +Force flight F-169 enroute from Anchorage, AL, to Japan. Capt. R.W. +(initials) and Capt. W. (initial) observed 3 UFOs on radar 5 miles off +the wing. The UFOs paced the Flying Tiger freighter aircraft for 30 +minutes then climbed away at a steep angle at about 1200 knots ground +speed. Estimated size (thumb and finger method) approx. 200 to 1000 ft. +diam., glowing red and oval shaped. The pilot remarked, "we often see +UFOs on the Alaskan run!" + +May 28, 1965...Police statement (interview); Bougainville Reef, +Australia: An Ansett-A.N.A. DC-6B airliner (VH-INH) en route to Port +Moresby, New Guinea, was buzzed by a UFO at about 3:25 a.m. The pilot +radioed the Townsville Ground Control Tower and talked to Mr. O. +(initial). Description: slightly spherical and oblate, flattened on top +and bottom; appeared to have exhaust gasses coming from it. Photos of +the UFO were taken by the pilot but were later confiscated at Canberra +as was the taped conversation to Mr. O., the Tower operator. Mr. O. was +threatened with dismissal if he talked about the incident. + +July 3, 1965...Newspaper reports, ANTARCTICA: Argentine, British and +Chilean military and scientific personnel observed an UFO moving at a +frightening speed doing incredible maneuvers. It was something solid, +glowing blue-green and causing E/M interference with our equipment. +Lenticular shaped "flying saucer". Tracked by theodolite, binoculars +and magnetograph tapes. Also, 10 color photographs were taken of the +UFO. + +Sept. 3, 1965..Project Blue Book File #(?): Damon/Angleton, TX. Deputy +Sheriffs Billy E. McCoy and Robert W. Goode were investigating an UFO +in the back-woods roads when the purplish UFO shot instantly towards +them to within 150 feet and hovered at 100 feet off the ground. The +bright glow illuminated the interior of the car and the surrounding +fields (11:30 p.m.). "Every blade of grass stood out clearly" in the +field. Officer Goode, who was driving with his arm out the window, felt +heat on his arm and later reported that a cut that was on his arm +healed more rapidly than normal [U/V effects]. + +Sept.16,1965...NICAP Report #(?): Pretoria, S. Africa: Constables John +Lockem and Koos de Klerk while on patrol (after midnight) suddenly had +a domed, disc shaped object come into their van headlights. It was +sitting on the road. The UFO was copper colored and about 30 ft. in +diam. Immediately the UFO lifted off, emitting tongues of flame from +two tubes or channels on the underside. The flames deflected about +three feet off the macadam road surface and were still visible after +loosing sight of the craft. Road damage: part of the road was caved-in, +and in a 6 foot area the gravel was separated from the tar. Samples of +the road surface were taken for analysis, which report was never +released. Lt. Col. J.B. Brits, District Commandant of Pretoria North +said the incident was "highly SECRET ... and inquiry is being conducted +in TOP circles." + +Nov., 1965.....Fort Riley, KA: "AK" (Aaron Kaback) was on guard duty at +2 a.m. when the duty officer drove up and ordered him to hop into the +jeep. He and 3 other officers were driven out to a remote area where a +large oval objectwas resting. An army chopper was hovering above the +object and shining a bright light on it. The object was approx. 35-48 +ft. in diam., had a fin on the end and an exhaust port or some kind of +hole below the fin. It had rows of squares around the rim and remained +completely dead for the 2 1/2 hours they guarded it. (Kaback seems to +be confused as to the actual date this incident occurred. see 12/10/64) + +Mar. 20, 1966..Dexter, MI.: Frank Mannor, age 47, and Ronald Mannor, +age 19, went out at night through swampy, hummocky terrain to +investigate flashing lights in the swamp. They saw a domed, elliptical +object with a quilted surface hovering about 8 ft. off the ground in a +patch of apparent mist. The object glowed "blood red" and the body +lights disappeared. They lost sight of the UFO and didn't see it again. +(see 3/21/66;4/1/66) + +Mar. 20, 1966..La Porte, IN: Patrolman Michael Spevak was on duty when +2 youths pulled over and pointed out an UFO that they said had been +following them from Michigan City to La Porte. According to the young +men, the object frequently burst into such a bright glare that it +blinded them, forcing them off the highway. It had been following them +at an altitude of about 60 ft. Both the young men and the patrolman +noticed a cross-shaped appendage protruding from the lower portion of +the UFO. + +Mar. 21, 1966..Law enforcement officer F.B. (initials) at Dexter, +Michigan, and officer "C" (initial) on patrol sighted a landed saucer +in a swamp. Description: Large craft, like a pot; no windows; had a +dull glow and steam was coming up from the water. Sounded like a +turbine, a low whine or hum. He notified Selfridge AFB which +immediately sent out MP's, well armed. All law officers were ordered +back and their film was confiscated. Later his report and other reports +disappeared from police headquarters. Then, everyone in the force, +including he and "C", were transferred to other parts of the county. +The UFO wasn't disabled. F.B. saw it take-off and climb straight up. +(see 3/1/67) + +Apr. 1, 1966...From LIFE magazine: In a hastily called press +conference, the USAF spokesman J. Allen Hynek suggested that the +Dextor, MI, UFO and others seen in the swamps near Hillsdale may have +been marsh (or swamp) gas that had spontaneously ignited. (see +3/20/66;3/21/66) + +>>> Continued.. + +X-NEWS: yvax.byu.edu alt.alien.visitors: 32410 +Path: +hamblin.math.byu.edu!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!convex!cs.utexas.ed +u!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!alberto +From: alberto@garnet.berkeley.edu () +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: UFO History II 2/4 +Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:40:26 GMT +Organization: University of California, Berkeley +Lines: 209 +Message-ID: <2pohsq$ehm@agate.berkeley.edu> +NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu + +Subject: * UFO History II 2/4 + + +Apr. 5, 1966...Congressman, Gerald Ford announces to Congress the need +to extensively examine UFOs. + +Apr. 17,1966...Ravenna, OH, to Conway, Penn.: Deputy Sheriffs Dale +Spaur and Wilbur Neff of Portage County were on patrol when an UFO +stopped above them, illuminating them and the surroundings (it was just +about dawn). As the UFO moved away from them at about 300-500 ft. above +the road, it would alternately start and stop ahead of them playing cat +and mouse. At E. Palestine, OH, officer Wayne Huston joined in the +pursuit. At speeds of 100 mph in unfamiliar territory, they were soon +low on gas and had to give up the game with the UFO. Through local +police dispatch the officers alerted the Air Force, who sent out +fighter planes to investigate the UFO. As the officers saw the AF +planes approaching the UFO shot straight up and out of sight. (see +6/24/66) + +Summer, 1966...Results of an Iowa Poll, Iowa: 45% Iowans queried +believe UFOs to be REAL objects. Of the 45%, 21% were of the opinion +that the UFOs were of extraterrestrial origin. + +June, 1966.....Nha Trang, Vietnam: At this active Army Base at about +9:45 p.m., what was thought to be a flare lit up the north sky. The +bright UFO approached the base alternately moving at low to high +speeds. Upon descending toward the soldiers it hovered at an altitude +of 300-500 ft. All of a sudden the 6 generators failed along with the +engines of the idling Skyraiders, (TESLA energy discharge effects) +bulldozers and trucks. The entire valley and surrounding mountains were +illuminated by the hovering UFO for about 4 min. after which it went +straight up and disappeared in about 3 sec. After the incident a plane +load of officials from Washington arrived to investigate. (see 3/4/69) + +June 24, 1966..Richmond, VA: Officer William L. Stevens, Jr., observed +a dirigible-shaped UFO at 3:30 in the morning near the fairgrounds. It +was about100 ft. long and 30 ft. thick with greenish-yellow lights on +its perimeter. Stevens attempted to chase the UFO but it maintained an +even distance from him even though he sped up and slowed down. "The +object seemed to be playing CAT & MOUSE with me," he later said. After +10-15 min. the UFO accelerated and sped away. (see 4/17/66) + +Mar. 1, 1967...Lt. Gen. Hewitt T. Wheless, USAF, sends notice to all +branches of the military warning of persons imitating military officers +and harassing private citizens and confiscating UFO photos. (see +3/21/66) + +Jul. 3, 1967... R.T. (initials), with ALPHA RED TOP SECRET CRYPTO +Clearance, rank PFC, assigned to Canine Corps at Camp Pendleton, San +Diego, CA., states that he and his dogs were air transported 2.5 hrs. +to a sight in a desert (unknown location) UFO crash-sight. Saucer: +Metallic, 30 ft. diameter, domed top, no windows. He also observed: +Large walk-in refrigerator, empty body bags, men at work with technical +instruments. + +JAN. 19, 1968..DIA Intelligence Report from Liaison in Moscow, Russia +mentioning an attempt by the British Government in 1967 to collaborate +with the Soviets in UFO research. (see 2/22/68) + +Feb. 22, 1968..UNCLASSIFIED AIRGRAM, U.S. Dept. of the State regarding +UFOs in the Soviet Union: Feb. 1968, Soviet Life published three pages +pertinent to UFOs, by Felix Zigel. He also published a UFO article in +1966. Until recently no study of UFOs had been made in the Soviet Union +(see 1/19/68) + +1968...........Project xxxxxxxx (name CENSURED) established to evaluate +all UFO information pertinent to space technology. (see +1953,12/69,1976) + +Mar. 4, 1969...Near Atlanta, Missouri: The City Marshall and Mail +Carrier in Elmer, Missouri, William R. Overstreet observed an UFO at +early dawn over the road ahead of him. It was about 100 ft. in diam. +apparently rotating clockwise and emitting a strong white beam of light +down to the road which seemed to magnify the size of the road it was +shining on. He felt intense heat from the direction of the UFO and his +CB radio was dead. As he neared the light beam from the UFO his truck +motor and radio quit. As the beammoved away from his truck he was able +to start the engine again.(TESLA energy discharge effects) He followed +the UFO for about 4 mi. staying away from the beam. The UFO followed +the contour of the land it was flying over. After 7-8 min. the UFO +veered away and went out of sight. "I had never believed in them too +much until I saw this," he said. "Now I know that there is something to +these UFOs!" (see 8/13/75,6/66) + +1969?..........A retired Colonel from Wright-Patterson AFB with Top +Secret clearance states that a 2-man saucer crashed near Whitewater +Lake, Indiana as a result of an electrical disturbance in the +atmosphere. + +Dec. 1969......Project xxxxxx (name CENSURED) continues after Project +BLUEBOOK is closed. (see 1968) + +Oct. 1969......Jimmy Carter sees and reports a UFO. B1-E,516 CARTER, +JIMMY (Pres.) + +1972...........Project SNOWBIRD established to test fly a captured +flying saucer. + +Oct. 2, 1972...A letter from the Dept. of National Defence, Canada, +Brig. Gen. L.A. Bourgeois states: All UFOs reported to CFHQ are +investigated by the Director of Operations. It isn't a practice to +allow the public to study these files. Since the beginning of 1968 +these UFO reports have been passed along to the NRC. Evidence suggests +that UFOs present no threat to the Technology world. They exhibit a +unique scientifically advanced technology. (see 9/19/26) + +Sept. ,1973....At Great Lakes Naval Base, Instructor R.K., Gunnery +School Grade E-4, while delivering a sealed envelope to the Commandant +in the quonset hut, was surprised to see a saucer 30 ft. diam. and 10 +ft. ht. resting on a wooden platform. Description: Silvery blue and +shimmering, it tapered like a teardrop with a flange running along its +topside from one end to the other and there were no windows. R.K. +believed this saucer to be the one shot down on its third pass over a +Navy vessel by a missile. The saucer crashed in 350 ft. water between +Hawaii and the mainland. It was retrieved by a Glomar Explorer, shipped +to Hawaii then stateside to Chicago. + +Oct. 18, 1973..Capt. Lawrence Coyne, while flying an Army helicopter +with three other crewmen were 45 minutes out over Mansfield when Staff +Sgt. Robert Yanacsek spotted a red glowing UFO headed toward their +helicopter at an estimated 600 mph. It stopped abruptly 500 ft. above +them. It had a big, gray, metallic looking hull about 60 ft. long, +shaped like an airfoil or streamlined cigar with a red light in front +and a green light in the rear, the lead edge glowed red a short +distance from the nose. There was a center dome. The 'copter radio +wouldn't function and the copter was set for a 20 degree dive but +gained altitude from 1700 ft. to 3500 ft. with no power applied. After +a slight "bounce" the UFO took off to the N.E. + +Oct. 25, 1973..Director of FBI, Clarence M. Kelley, states: UFOs are +not and never has been a matter that is within the investigative +jurisdiction of the FBI. + +Jan. 8, 1975...CONFIDENTIAL Spanish Report, Spanish Air Force: UFO +spotted by military personnel at Las Bardenas Reales near Zaragoza Air +Base. + +Mar. 28, 1975..Letter from Senator Barry Goldwater stating: Ten or +twelve years ago I tried to get access to the building at Wright- +Patterson (HANGER-18) where UFO artifacts were stored and I was +understandably denied access. It is still classified above TOP SECRET. +I've heard they plan to release some of the information in the near +future and hope not to have to wait too much longer. + +Aug. 13, 1975..Near Haderslev, Denmark: Police Officer Evald Hansen +Maarup was driving home at 10:50 p.m. when all of a sudden his car was +engulfed by a bright blue light while at the same time his car lost all +ower. The temperature in his car rose to that of a warm summer day and +his radio was dead so he couldn't call for help. The bright beam from +the UFO was conical in shape with a bottom diam. of 4-5 meters and a +top diam. at the UFO of 10 meters. Two dome-like protrusions were +visible on the underside of the UFO that was hovering at about 20 +meters altitude. He activated a special camera on the patrol car which +automatically took 3 pictures of the UFO. As the UFO sped away he +regained power to his car. The developed film which was later turned +over to the Danish AF showed the light source of the UFO on it. No +report or analysis has been available from the AF to date. (see 3/4/69) + +Aug. 13, 1975..Alamogordo, NM: Staff Sgt. Charles L. Moody, USAF, drove +out to the outskirts of town late one night to watch for meteors. As a +disc-shaped UFO descended toward him, he tried to start his car to get +away but it wouldn't start. He heard a high pitched whining sound from +the UFO and saw shadowy figures in it and felt numbness, after which +the UFO departed. After driving home he found he couldn't account for +1.5 hours. The next day his back was enflame and he discovered a small +puncture wound over his spine and a few days later he developed a body +rash. As months passed he regained memory of the missing 1.5 hours. He +remembered that he had been in the UFO and in telepathic communication +with small 4'8" humanoids. They had whitish gray skin, large heads, +large eyes, small slit-like mouths and mask-like features. He had been +in a drug-like state on a table and they had poked a rod like device +into his back. After this they escorted him about the ship and later +dropped him off at his car. (see 3/4/69) + +Oct. 28, 1975..CONFIDENTIAL CINC/NORAD Report: UFOs, suspicious objects +seen by ground personnel. Sounded like jet aircraft. Intermittent radar +contact made with object. Jets scrambled to intercept but objects +lights went out interceptors passed and then came on again. Then the +object increased in speed and raised to a high altitude and could not +be discerned from the stars. Description: Through binoculars, looked +like 100 ft. sphere and appeared to have craters around the outside. To +date, AF and SAC helicopters have failed to provide a positive I.D. of +the UFO. (see 11/11/75,7/52) + +Oct. 29, 1975..NMCC Joint Staff Memo: Subject: AFB penetration. At +290200 EST, AFOC informed NMCC that an unidentified helicopter (UFO), +possibly two, had been sighted flying low over Loring AFB, Maine, in +proximity to a weapons storage area. Army Nat. Guard helos called in to +assist in locating UFO. NORAD informed of the incident by SAC. Received +authority to proceed into Canadian airspace, if necessary, to locate +UFO. A similar incident was reported the evening before. + +Nov. 11, 1975..CONFIDENTIAL CINC/NORAD Report. (see 10/28/75) + +Jan. 21, 1976..MEMO from NMCC by Rear Adm. J. B. Morin stating: Two +UFOs reported near the flight line at Cannon AFB, N.M. Security Police +report the UFOs to be 25 yards (75 ft.) in diameter, gold/silver in +color with blue light on top, hole in the middle and red light on the +bottom. + +Apr. 9, 1976...CONFIDENTIAL CIA Message: Source (name Censored) seeks +guidance from CIA UFO experts as to material in his report that should +remain classified. + +>>> Continued.. + +X-NEWS: yvax.byu.edu alt.alien.visitors: 32411 +Path: +hamblin.math.byu.edu!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.resto +n.ans.net!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!alberto +From: alberto@garnet.berkeley.edu () +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: UFO History II 3/4 +Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:41:43 GMT +Organization: University of California, Berkeley +Lines: 212 +Message-ID: <2pohv7$ei8@agate.berkeley.edu> +NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu + +Subject: * UFO History II 3/4 + + +July 30, 1976..NMCC Joint Staff Memo: Subject: Reports of UFOs. At +approx. 0345, EDT, the ANMCC received several reports of UFOs near Fort +Ritchie. At 0130, civilians reported an UFO to the NAB. At 0255, two +separate patrols sighted three UFOs; oblong with a reddish tint. At +0300, the Desk Sgt. (name with held) sighted an UFO over the ammo +storage area at 100-200 yds. altitude. At 0345, an Army Police Sgt. +sighted an UFO in the vicinity of sight R. ANMCC was requested to have +each individual write a statement on the sightings. One person said the +UFO was the size of a 2.5 ton truck. + +Sep. 19, 1976..Tehran, Iran: Civilians reported an UFO to the AFB. The +Iranian AF scrambled an American F-4 for intercept. As the F-4 was +vectored towards the brilliant UFO, all communications and +instrumentation were suddenly lost. As the pilot broke off pursuit, all +aircraft functions returned to normal. A second F-4 that was scrambled +began closing in on the UFO at greater than Mach 1 and was closing on +the UFO at 150 nautical mph., but the UFO accelerated and stayed ahead +of the F-4 (confirmed by Radar). Multi-colored flashing lights were +visible on the UFO. The moment the F-4 pilot tried to lock an AIM-9 +missile at the UFO he lost all weapons panel and communication control. +The UFO launched two smaller UFOs, one of which began to follow the F- +4. After evasive action by the F-4, the smaller UFO returned and united +with the larger UFO. The other smaller UFO seemed to have landed on the +ground so the pilot flew down to investigate it. The landed UFO +appeared to be 12 feet in diameter? As the pilot descended the light +from the landed UFO went out and he lost sight of it. The DIA termed +this sighting as "an outstanding report. This case is a classic which +meets all the criteria necessary for a study of a UFO phenomenon." And, +"an inordinate amount of manuverablilty was displayed by the UFOs." +(see 10/2/72,9/20/76) + +Sep. 20, 1976..DIA MESSAGE: UFO sighted over Tehran, Iran. "Initiate" +IPSP PT-1440. The Iranian Air Force scrambled an F-4 to intercept the +UFO. Due to its brilliance the UFO was visible 70 miles away. When the +F-4 approached within 25 mi. of UFO the F-4 lost ALL instrumentation +and communications (UHF and intercom). As the first F-4 banked away +from the UFO he regained instr. and comm. A second F-4 was dispatched, +2 man, with radar.The radar return was of a craft the size of a 707 +Tanker. As the F-4 closed within 25 NMi. of UFO, the UFO launched a +bright white object about one third the apparent size of the moon. The +pilot attempted to fire an AIM-9 missile at the second UFO but at that +moment he lost all instruments and communication.As he banked away from +the primary object the secondary object went to the inside of his turn +then returned and rejoined with the primary object. Afterwards the F-4 +regained control of instr. and communications. (see 9/19/76) + +1976...........Project SIGMA becomes an independent project from +project xxxx. (see 1968) + +Sept. 1, 1977..Air Force Letter from Col. Charles H. Senn, Wash., D.C., +to Gen. Duward L. Crow (Ret.), NASA, Wash., D.C. stating: Enclosed are +the UFO Fact Sheet and standard response to UFO public inquiries you +requested. I sincerely hope you are successful in preventing a +reopening of UFO investigations. + +Jan. 18, 1978.. MP at Ft. Dix shoots and kills an Alien. Incident +report sent to Col. Landon and Brig. Gen. Brown (AFOSI). The reporting +officer was S. W. (initials), Lt. 1st Class. Sgt. J.M. (initials), +Security Police Squad (PACAF) also witnessed and reported the incident +(Sept. 16, 1980). + +Feb. 1, 1978...NASA Information Sheet: NASA is not involved in a +research program involving UFOs, nor is any other government agency. +The U.S. Air Force nolonger investigates UFOs. (see NASA arrest laws +re. private citizens) (see 11/17/80) + +July 18, 1978..DOD Staff Message: UFO spotted over North TEHRAN, Iran. + +Oct. 21, 1978..Aircraft Accident Investigation Summary Report: Fredrick +Valentich vanished while reporting a UFO playing cat and mouse with his +airplane which was a Cessna 182L. It's hovering above me... it's got a +green light and sort of metallic (like) it's all shiny (on) the +outside... it's hovering and it's Airplane not an aircraft... (end of +transmission...pilot presumed dead). + +Nov. 9, 1978... L. Gordon Cooper, in a letter to the U.N., states that +UFOs are interplanetary vehicles and crewed by Aliens. + +May 10, 1980...DOD Report: The FAP (Peruvian Air Force) spotted a UFO +twice and tried to intercept and destroy the UFO without success. (see +7/52) + +Aug. 9, 1980...through Sep. 3, 1980: AFOSI Complaint Form:at Kirtland +AFB three persons report seeing UFO over a Restricted Test Range. + +On Aug. 9th a Sandia Security Guard drove down the Coyote Canyon access +road to check out an alarmed building and observed a landed UFO next to +an alarmed building. The UFO was a round disk shaped object. As he +approached the object on foot equipped with a shotgun the object took +off in a vertical direction at a high rate of speed. His radio wasn't +working right at the time so he couldn't reach dispatch. The building +contained HQ CR 44 material. [Nature of material not known.] + +Sept.16, 1980.. Sgt. J.M. (initials) of the PACAF writes to Len +Stringfield that he was stationed at McGuire AFB, N.J., when, on Jan. +18, 1978, an MP shot and killed an alien at the Ft. Dix Army base next +to the AFB. (see 1/18/78) + +Nov. 17, 1980..SECRET USAF OSI Document: Analysis of photo of UFO +following C-5A aircraft inclusive. Photo analysis of Cylinder Shaped +UFO legitimate. PhotoE. showed legitimate disc shaped UFO of 37 ft. +diameter with trilateral insignia on object. USAF still has an interest +in all UFO sightings over installations and test ranges. Several other +Government agencies, lead by NASA, actively investigate legitimate +sightings through COVERT COVER. One agency that deceives the public +whict such covert cover is the UFO reporting center at U.S. Coast and +Geodetic Survey, Rockville, MD. 20852. [The results of PROJECT AQUARIUS +is still classified TOP SECRET with access limited to "MJ-12".] The +Paul Bennewitz case still being monitored by NASA. Still receiving +assistance from Fugate(?) Miller. (see 2/1/78) + +Dec. 27, 1980..USAF UFO REPORT signed by Lt. Col. Charles I. Halt, +Deputy Base Commander, RAF Woodbridge stating: Two USAF security police +patrolmen saw a UFO either hovering or on legs outside the back gate, +Woodbridge. Being early morning, it illuminated the entire forest with +a white light. Description: Metallic in appearance and triangular in +shape, pulsing red light on top and banks of blue lights underneath. +Approx. 2-3 meters across and 2 meters high. It maneuvered through the +trees and disappeared. (see 12/29/80) + +Dec. 29, 1980..Lt. Col. C. I. Halt, sees a UFO that separates into 5 +UFOs and later sees 3 other UFOs. (see 12/27/80) + +Dec. 29, 1980..A low flying UFO was escorted by a large number of +helicopters (23) including some Chinooks and possibly Hueys, near +Dayton, Texas. It was probably escorted to the TOP SECRET underground +installation within Fort Hood, Texas. The SECRET air force base is NOT +listed in the Air Force Officer's Guide or the Air Force Almanac [it is +an Army AFB]. The name of the Secret base is Gray AAF, Texas. + +(12/29/80, cont'd) The special group piloting the helicopters Escort +for UFO are known as the "BLUEBOYS". The Texas Department of Public +Safety works closely with Gray AAF on UFO cases. (see 6/6/88) + +Jan. 13, 1981..(BENTWATERS AFB) Air Force MEMO from Lt. Col. Charles I. +Halt, Deputy Base Commander. (see 12/27/80,12/29/80) + +Oct. 19, 1981..Barry Goldwater, Senator, Arizona, in a letter to Lee +Graham, f Aeroject Electric Systems, Azusa, Calif., states that he has +given up trying to get into the BLUE ROOM at Wright-Patterson AFB where +UFO artifacts are stored by the Air Force. (see 3/28/75) + +Nov. 3, 1981...Civil Action, Case No. 80-1562, goes against the +plaintiff and for the defendant, the NSA. The NSA retains the right to +withhold 156 TOP SECRET records containing communications intelligence +(COMINT) reports which were produced between 1958 and 1979. Only +military personnel with a Top Secret Clearance were allowed to view the +documents for the court hearing. NOT even the Judge was allowed to see +them, even though he ruled against the plaintiff (CAUS). (see 6/24/83) + +Nov. 27, 1982..Palatine, IL.: Police Commander Michael McDonald was on +patrol at 5:00 a.m. when the area around his car was lighted, as if by +a phosphorousflare. Looking up he saw a large white UFO with tinges of +red at an altitude of 900-1000 ft. Two other officers, alerted by +radio, also observed the UFO. The other two cars gave pursuit to the +UFO at speeds of between 60-65 mph but the UFO outdistanced them. A few +minutes later another UFO was noted by the commander and then the other +two officers. It was a diffuse "domed disc" which was seen to emit a +beam of light towards the ground. The UFO then disappeared behind the +tree line of a forest preserve. The police report includes a tape +recording of the radio communications during the sighting. + +Jun. 24, 1983..Larry W. Bryant, Director of CAUS, filed a Civil Action, +Case No. 83-1932 (Judge Oliver Gasch) petitioning for a Writ of Habeas +Corpus EXTRATERRESTRIAL, in the United States District Court for the +Dist. of Columbia, seeking to obtain the release from custody of "one +or more occupants of apparent extraterrestrial origin." Mr. Bryant +contends that the Government action in maintaining secret custody, +detention, and prosecution of such extraterrestrials is unlawful and a +violation of their basic rights and is seeking to restore their civil +rights. (see 11/3/81) + +Nov. 29,1983...Dr. Robert I Sarbacher, President and Chairman of the +Board, Washington Institute of Technology, in a letter to William +Steinman states persons definitely involved in operations of recovered +saucers were John von Neuman and Dr. Vannever Bush. Also, Dr. Sarbacher +thought that Robert Oppenheimer was also involved. Dr. Sarbacher had +been invited by President Eisenhower to attend several discussions +associated with the reported recoveries, but was unable to attend them. +He did receive Special Reports on the recoveries at the Pentagon but +was instructed NOT to remove them from his office. + +1984...........From the Air Traffic Controllers Manual: Controllers +MUST report UFOs immediately to AIS (Military), LATCC. A completed +report MUST be sent to MOD (AFOR). A list of phone numbers and +locations is shown in the directory at Appendix H. + +May 16, 1984...Dept. of the Army letter to W. S. Steinman stating that +the IPU was disestablished in the late 1950s and all records were +transferred to the Air Force. Therefore the Army isn't aware of what +their function was even though it was a Secret unit of the Army. [FOIA +requests to USAF] (see 3/12/87) + +Mar. 19, 1985..(LONDON, ENGLAND) In a letter from Ministry of Defence, +Lord Trefgarne states, "There is no organization in the MOD appointed +solely for the purpose of studying UFOs, and no staff are employed on +the subject full time... the staff in the Department... examine the +reports as part of heir normal duties... and we cannot inform observers +of the probable identity of the objects seen." + +June 28, 1985..USAF ACCESS RESTRICTED NOTICE: Report TR-DE-3A, Oct. 15, +1955, from Air Tech. Intel. Ctr., file no. TS5-2862, has been WITHDRAWN +from the National Archives and is classified a TOP SECRET UFO REPORT. + +>>> Continued.. + +X-NEWS: yvax.byu.edu alt.alien.visitors: 32412 +Path: +hamblin.math.byu.edu!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!convex!cs.utexas.ed +u!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!alberto +From: alberto@garnet.berkeley.edu () +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: UFO History II 4/4 +Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:42:46 GMT +Organization: University of California, Berkeley +Lines: 170 +Message-ID: <2poi16$eim@agate.berkeley.edu> +NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu + +Subject: * UFO History II 4/4 +Message-ID: +Date: Thu, 01 Jul 93 02:30:46 CST +Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada +Lines: 167 + + +Aug. 27, 1985..Darlian, CHINA, the "China Daily" reports: 20,000 people +are involved in UFO research. The first recognized photo of a UFO in +China was taken in 1945. In 1981 CSUR UFO research organization was +established. More than 600 UFOs have been reported within the past 5 +years in China. Studies will be done on UFOs and Human body science +relationships. + +May 11, 1986...Near Sadona, AR: Minister Robert H. Henderson and his +wife, Nann, of Phoenix, AR, were flying at an altitude of 8500 ft. at 4 +p.m. when a very bright UFO was seen approaching head-on to them. As he +prepared to take evasive action the UFO passed quickly to the left and +below of his plane. The UFO was seen to be wingless and resembling a +"modified half-sphere, with the flat side down." The closure rate was +estimated at about 1200 mph. + +May 19, 1986...Near Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: Between 9:00 +to 12 midnight the Brazilian Air Defense and the Civil Air System were +swamped with Radar and pilot UFO sightings. As Ospires Silva, President +of Petrobras Oil Company were preparing to land, the control tower +informed him of UFO targets on their radar. He and his companion, Alcir +Pereira da Silva, saw bright red-orange UFOs, not at all like stars or +planes. They attempted to pursue the UFOs for 30 min. but gave up as +the UFOs seemed to be jumping from place to place. At this time three +F-5E fighter jets were scrambled from Santa Cruz AFB. Capt. Marcio +Jordao was able to approach within 12 miles of an UFO, visible to him +as a bright light changing from white to green. Lt. Kleber Caldas +Marinho chased another UFO which was a very intense light, changing +from white to green then red again. Both pilots broke off chase as they +were running low on fuel. Ground Radar picked up 10-13 more UFOs that +surrounded another plane with Capt. Armindo Souza Viriato de Marinho, +K.C. Freitas piloting it. Capt. Freitas tracked the UFOs on his radar, +but only de Freitas, A.S.V. saw them visually once as they climbed +vertically past him. Brig. Gen. Octavio Moreira Lima made these events +public at a press conference and allowed the pilots and radar operators +to be questioned by the media. (see 7/52) + +Feb. 15, 1987..The San Jose Mercury states that the Pentagon has a +"Black Budget" which has become a "Black Hole" for SECRET Projects +spending! It is far bigger than the federal budget for education or +transportation or agriculture or the environment. These Projects are +classified above Top Secret, therefore very few federal investigators +have the security clearances necessary to audit black programs. + +Mar. 12, 1987..U.S. Army Intelligenc letter: The IPU (Interplanetary +Phenomenon Unit) of the Scientific and Technical Branch, Counter +intelligence Directorate, Department of the Army was disestablished +during the 1950's and never reactivated. All of its records were turned +over to the USAF (which can't seem to locate them). This letter was +sent to Timothy Good. (see 5/16/84) + +Sep. 4, 1987...JMP (Justice for Military Personnel) letter sent to +President Ronald Reagan. This letter, verified by: Astronaut L. Gordon +Cooper, Maj. Donald E. Keyhoe (USMC, Ret.), MUFON (Sequin, TX), APRO +(Tucson, AZ) and Just Cause (Coventry, CT) states that:"WE (military +personnel) have been ordered by the CIA to shoot at UFOs, silence +pilots who have seen UFOs, intimidate, harass, jail, confine to +institutions,and destroy military carreers of witnesses to UFO +sightings. We VIOLATED the Freedom of Information Act by hiding +Government documents." (see 7/52,9/24/47) + +Nov. 17, 1986..Near Fort Yukon, Alaska: Japan Airlines flight #1628, a +Boeing 747 freighter, was cruising at 35000 ft. altitude and at 5:11 +p.m. the pilots noticed bright lights 30 degrees to the left and below +them. The UFOs moved up directly in front of the 747 and, said Capt. +Kenju Terauchi, "most unexpectedly, two spaceships stopped in front of +our face, shooting off lights (like numerous exhaust pipes). The inside +cockpit shined brightly and I felt warm in the face." The UFOs appeared +as two rectangular clusters or arrays of light, one above the other. As +the larger UFOs moved away from the 747 Airlines Flight 1628 there +remained two smaller flat white UFOs. At about 5:30 p.m. Capt. Terauchi +checked the pale white light behind their craft visually. He saw a +gigantic "walnet-shaped" UFO (Saturn-shaped) following them. As an +evasive action the Capt. ordered the 747 to turn away from the giant +UFO that was following them, at which time the UFO "spaceship" +disappeared. + +Dec. 21, 1987..CIA letter to Mr. Richard Hall stating the CIA's reasons +for denying certain FOIA requests about himself on the basis of +national defence reasons and must be kept secret. Mr. Hall is an UFO +investigator. + +May 5, 1988....For the third time, publicly, President Ronald Reagan +states that the nations of the earth would unite if we were threatened +by an Alien race from a hostile planet. + +Jun.6, 1988....Letter received from Paul F. Bennewitz describing +Project Beta: Alien base located in New Mexico consisting of type +"Grey" Aliens. NASA CIR film has aided in locating this base and +revealing US Military involvement with the "Greys". Aliens helped US +Military to build a working saucer, Atomic Powered. Two women and a boy +exposed to radiation burns by this saucer. Government is not picking up +the medical bills. "Grey" base is currently abandoned. Another group +called "Orange" is based on the west slope of Mt. Archeleta near "the +Diamond". Goal of Project Beta: to locate, inventory and propose ways +of destroying Alien bases! (see 12/29/80) + +Some sources of information: + +....."UFO CRASH RETRIEVALS:" series by Leonard H.Stringfield + + A. Status Report ONE, c. + + B. Status Report TWO, "Amassing the Evidence", c.1980,pub. by MUFON, + Sequin, TX. + + C. Status Report THREE, "New Sources, New Data", c.1982, pub. by + Leonard Stringfield. + +............................................................ + +REFERENCES:(A) ADDRESSES of AUTHORS, RESEARCHERS: + +1. UFO Photo Archives, P.O. Box 17206, Tucson, Arizona 85710, USA. + (B1-E, p.580) + +2. STEINMAN,William S., 15043 Rosalita Dr., La Mirada, Calif. 90638, + USA. + +3. CAUS, Citizens Against UFO Secrecy, 3518 Martha Custis Drive, + Alesandria, Virg. 22302, USA. Larry W. BRYANT, director, + Washington, D.C. Office. + +4. L/L Research, P.O. Box 5195, Louisville, Kentucky 40205, USA. + +5. STRINGFIELD, Leonard H., 4412 Grove Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45227, + USA. (B1-E, p.580) + +6. Flying Saucer Information Center, 7803 Ruanne Court, Pasadena, MD + 21122, USA. + +7. MUFON, Mutual UFO Network, 103 Oldtowne Rd., Seguin, TX 78155-4099. + (B1-E, p.583) + +8. Just Cause, PO Box 218, Coventry, CT 06238 USA. + +9. APRO, 3910 E. Kleindale Road, Tucson, AZ 85712 USA. + +10. KEYHOE, Major Donald E., (USMC, Ret.)(now deceased) + +11. MOORE, William L., Publications & Research, 4219 W. Olive St., Ste. + 247, Burbank, CA 91505. (B1-E, p.580) + +12. FRIEDMAN, Stanton T., PO Box 2246, Berkeley, CA 94702. (B1-E, + p.583) + +13. BRAY, Arthur, PO Box 5528, Station-F, Ottawa, Ontario K2C 3M1. (B1- + E, p.566) + +14. MACCABEE, Bruce, PO Box 277, Mount Ranier, MD 20712. + +15. STEVENS, Wendelle C., 3224 So. Winona Circle, Tucson, AZ 85730. + (B4, p.168) + +16. McINTYRE, W.F., c/o MARCEN, 123 Olney-Sandy Spring Rd., Sandy + Spring, MD 20860. + +17. BECKLEY, Timothy G., c/o UFO Review, PO Box 753, New Brunswick, NJ + 08903. + +UFO HISTORY V2.09: Copyright 1988,1991,1992,1993 by PEA Research, Elk +Grove,CA. + +--- . + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2822.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2822.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e0d575c4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2822.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +SUBJECT: Spielberg to expose UFO Cover-ups. FILE: UFO2822 + + + + Ace director Steven Spielberg is deserting science fiction - for + science fact. + + The genius behind the movie blockbusters, ET, Close Encounters Of The + Third Kind and Jurassic Park is secretly working on a 50 million pound + movie that he claims will unmask a government cover-up of an alien + spaceship crash in New Mexico in 1947. (Roswell crash, Corona Actually) + + Project X is based on the Roswell Air Force base incident which gave + the world the term "flying saucer". [Note: Untrue, the term "flying + saucer" came from the Kenneth Arnold sighting in June, 1947] Spielberg + believes the US military took away alien bodies from the crashed UFO. + + Hollywood insiders say the director has got hold of previously unseen + film footage of the flying saucer crash scene taken by a military + officer. "Everybody is talking about Project X," says a Tinseltown + source. + + Spielberg already has a team at Hamlin Productions working on the + script. + + "This is going to be a totally different film from the likes of ET + which was just a fairy story. + + "It's about the UFO crash and the political intrigue which followed." + [Note: I presume this is from the same "Tinseltown source" who claims + Spielberg has secret military footage of the crash] + + The movie is due out in 1997 - the 50th anniversary of the alleged + alien landing. [Note: Some landing!] + + Nathan + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2823.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2823.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1b9c1841 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2823.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,265 @@ +SUBJECT: UFOs EXPLAINED FILE: UFO2823 + + + + ##UFO## + + +UFOs Explained + Philip J. Klass + 1974, Random House (1976 Vintage); (438p.) + #UFO# + A classic debunking work on UFO's, selecting a number of +well-known and intriguing cases, particularly some most touted by ET +or mystery proponents. Klass's reconstructions can be complicated, +but are convincing. Not all would agree with his extrapolation to +imply that all UFO cases, even if not explained similarly, must have +prosaic explanations, but Klass's argument is not a trivial dismissal. +Cases discussed include the Socorro "Landing," the RB-47 case, the +Pascagoula abductions and the Army helicopter incident of 1973, and +many more. + + +UFO's: The Public Deceived + Philip J. Klass + 1983, Prometheus Books; 310p. + #UFO# + Another Klass volume of prosaic explanations of prime UFO +cases, less-than-competent UFO investigators and exposed hoaxes. +Includes a pretty definitive treatment of the famous Travis Walton +case, most probably a hoax. Again, the bulk of the book is individual +cases, with the implication that there is a good chance that the +processes that go into their explanations are also operative in others +that are not explained. + + +UFO-Abductions: A Dangerous Game + Philip J. Klass + 1988 (updated 1989), Prometheus Books; 200p. (222) + #UFO# + Argues that typical UFO abduction accounts arose from popular +mythology, circulated in accounts like _The Interrupted Journey_ and +stories about the Travis Walton case. With the `abduction explosion' +of the 1980s -- through best-sellers by Budd Hopkins and by Whitley +Streiber -- a pre-fabricated `storyline' was already in place. To +explain how disparate people provide similar accounts and believe in +them, Klass provides two mechanisms. Firstly, many abduction accounts +were `uncovered' through hypnosis, so it is likely that they arose +through the hypnotist's asking questions which `led' the patient to +create a UFO abduction memory. The second is that several abductees +(Streiber especially) exhibit symptoms of temporal lobe epilepsy +(TLE), which encourages confabulation of memory and fantasy. While +the hypnosis hypothesis can be checked through session transcripts, +the TLE idea reaches too far. Klass was a layman making a +long-distance diagnosis on the basis of a little psychology research; +saying Streiber had an organic brain disorder. This, and other ad +hominem attacks (such as arguing that aliens wouldn't have taken an +abductee because she was ugly) make this book an interesting failure. + + +Flying Saucers: Magic in the Skies + Otto Billig + 1982, Schenkman Books; ?p. + #UFO# + + +UFO's And Outer Space Mysteries: A Sympathetic Skeptic's Report + James Oberg + 1982, Donning; 192p. + #UFO# + + +UFO's: A Scientific Debate + Carl Sagan and Thornton Page, eds. + 1974, Norton; 344p. + #UFO# + + +The UFO Verdict: Examining the Evidence + Robert Sheaffer + 1986, Prometheus Books; 242p. + #UFO# + + +Final Report Of The Scientific Study Of Unidentified Flying Objects + Edward U. Condon and Daniel S. Gillmor, eds. + 1968, Bantam books; 965p. + #UFO# + + +Round In Circles: Physicists, Poltergeists, Pranksters and the Secret +History of the Cropwatchers + Jim Schnabel + 1993, Hamish Hamilton Ltd., London; 295p. + #UFO# + + +Watch The Skies! A Chronicle of the Flying Saucer Myth + Curtis Peebles + 1994, Smithsonian Institution Press; 342p. + #UFO:history# + An objective history of "the flying saucer myth." Beginning +with Kenneth Arnold's classic sighting of nine objects "skipping like +saucers" near Mount Rainier in 1947, Peebles covers the classic events +(Captain Thomas Mantell's "dogfight" with a UFO, the "Invasion of +Washington," etc.) through their evolution into the modern belief in +alien abductions. The dustjacket assures the reader "[t]his +thoroughly researched chronicle concludes that the flying saucer myth +is not really about disk-shaped spaceships and their angelic or +demonic pilots. Rather, like earlier mythologies, it is an attempt to +make order out of the world, an expression of our hopes and fears." +An assurance which will not disappoint the reader. + + +The Great Airship Mystery: A UFO of the 1890s + Daniel Cohen + 1981, Dodd, Mead & Co.; 212p. + #UFO:history# + Thousands in the US reported seeing a "mysterious airship" +overhead, in 1896 and 1897, though no such ship was possible at that +time. Both the sightings and the reactions to them parallel what took +place with the first UFO reports. Media attention was present, and +explanations proposed included hoaxes, a "mysterious inventor" and +spaceships from other worlds. Cohen concludes that the best +explanation for the wave is misindentification and hoax, with the +media improving on simple "night lights" reports. Similar hoaxes are +known, and paranormal explanations are riddled with contradictions. + + +Angels And Aliens: UFOs and the Mythic Imagination + Keith Thompson + 1991, Fawcett Columbine; 283p. + #UFO:history#, #UFO:sociology#, #UFO:defense# + An account of UFO history focusing on the conflict between +believers and disbelievers, in "mythic" terms. Thompson reserves his +admiration for those (like Jung and Vallee) who chose not to focus on +the debunkers and believers but rather pondered why the strange +phenomenon (whether physically 'real' or not) was happening *now*. He +points out that both believers and skeptics at times have gone to +ridiculous lengths to prove their cases, but neither side has attained +conclusive victory. By the conclusion, however, an underlying +"reality" of UFO's becomes the de facto viewpoint, along with +unwarranted speculation about abductees being a transcendent form of +human development. + + +The UFO Controversy In America + David Michael Jacobs + 1975, Indiana University Press; 384p. + #UFO:history# + + +UFOs And The Extraterrestrial Contact Movement: A Bibliography + George M. Eberhart + 1986, Scarecrow Press; 1298p. + #UFO# + + +The UFO Literature: A Comprehensive Annotated Bibliography of Works in +English + Richard Michael Rasmussen + 1985, McFarland & Co.; 263p. + #UFO# + + +Observing UFOs: An Investigative Handbook + Richard F. Haines + 1980, Nelson-Hall; 300p. + #UFO# + + +UFO Phenomena and the Behavioral Scientist + Richard F. Haines, ed. + 1979, The Scarecrow Press, 1979; 450p. + #UFO# + + +The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry + J. Allen Hynek + 1972, 1977, Ballantine Books; 309p. + #UFO:defense# + Hynek, sometimes called "the father of modern UFOlogy" by +proponents, started out as a scientific consultant to Project Blue +Book, working to determine misidentifications of astronomical objects +in UFO reports. He became convinced there was more to it upon +investigation. Hynek is also well-known for his classification (1st +to 3rd kinds) of UFO "close encounters." The book consists mainly of +presentations of examples that fall within these categories. A +classic of UFO literature, it does not include surprising information +or hypotheses for anyone involved in UFO matters, but it is an +excellent overview of the UFO incidents of its time. + + +The Edge Of Reality + J. Allen Hynek and Jacques Vallee + 1975, Henry Regnery; ?p. + + +The UFO Handbook: A guide to Investigating, Evaluating and Reporting +UFO Sightings + Allan Hendry + 1979, Doubleday; 297p. + #UFO:defense# + + +UFOs and the Limits of Science + Ronald D Story + 1981, William Morrow; 290p. + #UFO:defense# + + +Passport To Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers + Jacques Vallee + 1969, Henry Regnery; 372p. + #UFO# + + +Dimensions: A Casebook of Alien Contact + Jacques Vallee + 1988, Contemporary Books; 304p. + #UFO:defense# + + +Revelations: Alien Contact and Human Deception + Jacques Vallee + 1991, Ballantine Books; 294p. + #UFO#, #UFO:defense# + A theme of this book is the irrationality that surrounds UFOs +where military authorities are concerned; but they may also use it for +their own purposes, or promote it unintentionally. Vallee exposes +some of the myths that have been accepted as fact in some UFOlogical +circles, discussing for example alleged abductions and various +conspiracy threads, and shows what the origins of these myths are. An +appendix presents his famous "Five arguments against the ET +hypothesis;" another gives Vallee's swan song at the MUFON convention +"Forbidden Science: The UFO Phenomenon and the Research Community." +Though some of the "revelations" should be taken with a grain of salt, +this is a good introduction to the mindsets prevailing in what is left +of American UFOlogy today. + + +Above Top Secret: The Worldwide UFO Cover-up" + Timothy Good + 1987, Sidgwick and Jackson (London); 590p. + #UFO:defense# + Some UFO proponents recommend this as "the most important +book" on a UFO cover-up. Its focus is Britain and the US, but +material is included about countries such as the ex-Soviets, China, +and Australia. While documentation appears to have been provided, the +many instances of shoddy research and overcredulity overshadow any +case that might be made. Representative of the UFO cover-up theme in +popular UFOlogy, but not recommended for useful information about UFO +matters. + + +The UFO Evidence + Richard H. Hall, ed. + 1964, NICAP; ?p. + #UFO:defense# + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2825.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2825.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..81f4552a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2825.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +SUBJECT: A Bonnybridge account. FILE: UFO2825 + + + + +Although not a contributor to UFO sighting reports I do occasionally read +some of the bulletins,and have more than a passing interest,as I think most +of us do. + + It was interesting to hear on Sky News today that the town of Bonnybridge +seems to have its fair share of sightings! I would certainly like to believe +that they are seeing UFO's...not of this world that is .... but consider the +following..non of which is classified and all of which has been published in +some form or other and freely available.. + + The town is on the 045 radial from Machrihanish..about 70 miles. +Machrihanish is well known for having certain very high speed visitors.. +mach 6 plus? The visitors will arrive from the West...via the north Atlantic +tracks. With the prevailing winds the 290 deg runway will be used,which has +right hand circuits. The visitor will no doubt arrive at high altitude/high +speed and need a large turning arc to make a rapid descent onto rwy 29.This +will take it neatly over the Bonnybridge area and will give the impression of +a peculiar manoeuvre. It will doubtless arrive in the dark...remember the +visits of the F117a to the UK? + + Finally there were at one time reports from rig workers of sightings out +in the Hebrides area of lghts in the sky and fast moving objects. I'm afarid +that this one is a non starter...but interesting all the same.Regards,... +John + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2826.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2826.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..77a1ff18 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2826.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: It is not Aurora over Bonnybridge. FILE: UFO2826 + + + + + + Hi thanks for reading this. Having watched the Aspel documentary on +the events at Bonnybridge and read the various reports of the meeting at +the Civic Centre etc etc i think it highly unlikely that the cause of +these sightings is the latest very fast jet produced by the military. + + The craft or crafts described hovers motionless for 10 mins and lights +the sky up to a very strong brilliance brighter than the moon, lands in +forest clearings and mechanically drags forestry workers up to meet the +crew members, hovers over roads giving of huge amounts of light even when +its light etc etc ....... + + The Police and Forensic team examining the forest landing site were +very baffled by the landing area marks and scars on the forestry workers +body, and had made enquiries with the RAF, MOD etc before eliminating +the "its one of ours theory". They are still baffled as are the locals +who see these craft hovering just above roads etc etc. If the AURORA craft +behaves as the witness accounts suggest then someone needs to tell the Local +Police whats going on as they and the local councillors have asked for a +Government enquiry. + + The sightings were of crafts doing very low level hovers or search type +patterns. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2827.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2827.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0e637e15 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2827.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +SUBJECT: QUESTION FILE: UFO2827 + + + + I'm sitting in my room , thinking about all of the wondrous things in this world, the fantasy, the fiction, the reality that occurs and I and wondering about the concepts of man. You want a download so that I may upload, and I find this a fair concept, however, can I say things that are true, while keep the interest of the common man. Can I sit here and relate a story that I feel is real and convince the common man that what I feel is real. These are the things that I feel you are after. + UFO's are real, period. Anyone who denies this denies reality. How can anyone sit in their rooms and not accept the fact that the universe is so large that it contains life beyond ours. Now this may be a concept that most would deny, but I do not. The universe is too large to deny expansion. To deny the concept that there are worlds beyond ours that are more advanced than ours, denies the fact that a God exists. Yes, I write about God using the capitalization form. In some way I accept God. But in others I do not. My mind is so full of reality and alternate reality that I consider myself a contradiction of terms. + Prove to me the reality of life beyond ours. Prove to me that aliens have taken our kind beyond this earth and have integrated themselves into our universe, our world, our life. I want to believe, but yet I find "belief" a hard concept to achieve. + You know now that I sit down and actually set down onto writing what I feel about people, I find that man as a whole, is very confined. Their imagination about life is confined and so controled about reality that what we find is reality is but a factor if imagination. I watch people here in this town and find a structured so sound that anyone entering it is tested without their knowledge, without their assent, yet it happens. People arrive here, leave here so soon that a form of guild had been created, and if you are not a part of this guild you are considered an outsider. This concept of man to fear the unknown and consider it threatening is an all too familiar idea. But I like to think that reality is a dream and that what we consider real, another considers dream. + I watch the X-Files with considerable admiration. Sculley is the ever religious, realist and Mulder the fanatical dreamer. What he seeks is the solution to his sisters disappearance, and what she seeks is the truth to his cravings, although she does not realize her cravings. The difference, this abstract objection confuses the mear man's mortality and asks the question; is there more than the tangible. Can we conceive the abstract and can we believe? + Can we believe in the abstract. Can man believe in the abnormal. Can man believe in the fiction of life. Can we watch an object perform aerial ballet and have ours limited minds believe that the object go vertical after perfoming a complex sequence of movements. Everything tries to communicate with us, but we are so obstinate that we do not understand. + You ask, Paul, that I download before I can Upload, and of this I understand. Of you I ask, can you accept me as a person who only wants to read and understand, who has never been gifted with the sight of things that are beyond this world, of aliens and demons, of nightmares and dreams. Can you accept my weightings of what I feel is real and allow me to research what others write. + I do not say these things to trick you. I believe what I say. I want to know more. My fear is not understanding, but of being held back and closed off to the reality of things. + To you I ask that you write back an tell me your questions, tell me your fears, and I will with your help discover them, not simple by saying what I think is right, but by leering what everyone else says. Because you know as I do, the answers to all our questions lie in our own minds. We are the answers to the facts, alien or not. Only our own minds know the answers, and only our own minds can accept the facts, but by the same tolken, our own concious minds cannot accpet the unkown. + It was said that man fears the unknown. I believe this. Mortal man cannot accept the unknown. It is up to us; you, me, the others that believe the "nonreality" that what we fear is our own ignorance. Freud was a genius, and at the same time ignorant, not because he was unintelligent, but because of his existance in our time line. Present man kind believes in so much. More than the man of the 1800's. Don't stop now. Go on and discover the things that are forsaken. I bet that the common man would reject these things. + So are my thoughts. So are my beliefs. But by my own hand I accept ridicule. I accept comment. I accept the unknown. Talk to me. Tell me of your thoughts, cruel or not, fantasy or not, unreal or not, I want to understand the beyond.. + * * * * * * * * * * * + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2828.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2828.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2c106580 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2828.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@ +SUBJECT: REVIEW OF TESTOR'S MODEL S4 UFO FILE: UFO2828 + + + + +Review of Testor's Model S4 UFO (The sport model) + +Recently released is Testor's model of Bob Lazar's craft in which he studied at +the Groom lake area S4. Reading the background research that was done prior +to the commitment of Testor's to investing the tooling for this kit is interesting. + +Much of what was found by the designer of the model is already known in the +community of UFO investigators about Bob Lazar. The designer of the model and researcher +is Mr. John Andrews. I am not certain if Mr. Andrews is a full time designer for Testor's +or not but in the introduction it mentions that he has devoted much of his life to the investigation of +UFO's and the research involved. + +The kit price was about $30. and was purchased as "an investment". My son and I were going to +keep the box closed in it's shrink wrap but the mention on the box of information of the details +of the crafts operation and such was overwhelming. + +I wish I had a scanner so I could scan the whole of the documents included or if were a serious +typer I would type it all in for dissemination along the net. It is mentioned that a video tape +and state of the art graphics is available as a video seminar by Bob Lazar portraying the components +and capabilities of the craft and its design and operation. A high resolution satellite poster of the Groom +Lake area including area S4 is also available. + +For this information it says here: For information on availability please write to: + PUL / JFI + 2413 S. Eastern Ave. , Ste. #225 + Las Vegas, NV. 89104 + +Anyway, the kit seems to be very well made but, for those of you who are skilled modelers (as I) you +will be disappointed in the fact that there are not the appendages, weapons, surface tubing, landing gear scissors,rubber tires, or laser cannons as you would find on the Millennium Falcon (star wars stuff). + +It seems that simplicity reigns in the conversion of energy and manipulation of gravity and space and +all that neat stuff must be left on the mother ship! (Not mentioned.) + +As a kit in whole on a scale from 1 to 10, I give it a 7. +As a source of UFO information I give it an 8. +As a collectors item probably 9 +...and if all of this comes out of the government wash in the next few years as I believe it will and this is +real.... I won't be able to give it a value! + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2829.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2829.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..43b4163f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2829.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +SUBJECT: WHAT I SAW IN TENNESSEE FILE: UFO2829 + + + + +I have also uploaded a file, ufopol.bmp, which is a paintbrush +rendering of what I saw. + +Before I saw this, I was a doubter of the existance of ufo's. +But now I know they exist. I never got an explanation for what +my family and I saw. Eventhough my wife saw it, she has still +chosen not to believe in what she saw. Is that possible? + +On November 15th, 1994 at 7:10 pm, in Mountain City, Tennessee, +I was on my home computer playing a computer game. Since I live +in the sticks in Tennessee, I always run outside when I hear a +helecopter [they don't fly over often here]. Anyway, I heard a +helecopter for about the 5th time that day. I ran out on the back +porch to watch it. It was flying very high and slow- like the others. +All I could see was the blue strobe light flashing at the bottom. I +was getting ready to go back in, when suddenly, over a hill came a +huge craft that had eleven lights glowing on the bottom and two small +lights close together on the front. It seemed to be drifting along +slowly instead of flying. I ran in the house so that I could continue +watching it in the front yard. As I ran through the living room, my +wife and twins were watching TV. I told them to come out here quickly. +We stood there and watched it for about 15 minutes. +By the position of the lights on the bottom, it looked saucer shaped, but +I could not actually see the geometric outline of the craft. +I have seen it twice since then, but both times it was flying north east +instead of south west. + +STRANGER THAN THAT: +December 15th, 3:00 pm, 1994 + +I got an (800) number for Patrick Airforce Base in Florida to report it +because the Law Enforcement around here didn't know what to do. Oh, +before I forget to tell you, I have spoken with three other people who +have seen it. Anyway, I called the (800) number and got a duty officer +who said the person I need to report this to was sitting beside him. So +he got on another phone. He was a col.. He started asking me questions +like he was reading them from a "UFO Questionaire Form" (e.g.,"Was there +any property damage as a result of this sighting?",etc.) He asked me +how liberal my boss was about letting me travel- He wanted to fly me down +to Florida to make a statement. But, as a Software Engineer with Kodak, +I had just finished a two year project that we are testing and I told him +I couldn't travel at this time. +NOW WHILE THIS WAS GOING ON, they had radio contact with what sounded like +two fighter pilots that I could hear very clearly. I was distracted by what +I was hearing them say over the radio. Here is what I heard: +"Eagle has ufo on screen -- will dispurse now.. struck, the eagle has +struck" then the man talking to me on the phone yelled out, "Some one get that +radio I've got a [some kind of code name for me] on the telephone" then I hear +over that radio from the pilot "Its on the ground...Professor, you've got to +get down here now"! +The col. yelled out "that cannot be disclosed"! he got back on the phone with +me and said, "Sorry there is so much noise here, I've got to go". He took my +telephone number...said he would call back or for me to call him back. +Well, I called back the next day - the same exact (800) number and got the +helecopter rescue unit. This time a woman answered..did not know anything about +anyone I was trying to reach. I have called back on three other occasions and +same woman answers the phone. Last time I called, she got tired of hearing from +me and hung up the phone. + +Steve Smith, SE +(615) 727-9941 ext. 241 + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2830.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2830.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..385fa7e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2830.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +SUBJECT: Welsh Radio Ham and triangular object. FILE: UFO2830 + + + + +I was looking at a bulletin the other day regarding sightings +of UFO's in Mid Wales recently and it takes me back many years +to my VHF days. I think it was during a November evening, there +was a huge opening over europe on 2 metres. In those days I was +a bit hardier than now and I headed for a local hill called +the Blorenge with the portable kit. + +I had spent a succesful couple of hours working the dx but by now +was starting to feel the cold. I decided to call it a night and +got out of the car to take down the portable mast. + +On that occasion the sky was crystal clear and the stars were showing +well from this dark location. I saw an object to the north, fairly +low down near the horizon. It was glowing red and at first I +thought it was a planet such as Mars. I didnt take a lot +of notice of it at first, but somehow I kept looking back +at it whilst I was bringing the mast down. + +However after about 5 minutes this object started to rise directly +up from the horizon, slowly at first. I began to think it must be +some sort of Helicopter, I soon changed my mind when it came +overhead in my direction, gaining speed as it approached. + I was able to get a good look at it and saw that it was triangular +in shape, with 3 red lights, one on each corner. It made a whooshing +noise as it sped overhead. + +It then shot of out of sight at high speed and that was the last I saw of it. +No green men im afraid but something I cant account for. I didnt +report it because I know that most people that do so end +up being riduculed. I wonder if anyone else out on night +radio manouveres has seen anything like this. I think my timing +might have been wrong perhaps this object might have had two metres +on board. I look forward to any sensible replies. + +steve gw4ble + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2831.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2831.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..02110a37 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2831.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,590 @@ +SUBJECT: THE MAN BEHIND THE FACE ON MARS FILE: UFO2831 + + +The man behind the face on Mars: How he thinks extraterrestrials and their +architecture may have restructured the entire solar system + +RICHARD HOAGLAND + +BY OMNI MAG. + +Before Richard Hoagland spoke at the United Nations on February 27, 1992, a +person stepped into the Dag Hammarskjold Library Auditorium and asked: "Is a +man from Mars speaking here?" I must confess similar questions ran through my +mind before I first met Hoagland at Omni's New York office. There's no getting +around it: Hoagland has some unusual ideas about Mars. Monuments--a whole +metropolis in fact--he believes, are linked to structures on Earth and the +moon that, in turn, are tied together by an advanced new physics that may have +spawned "hyperdimensional" space technologies the United States government may +have gotten its hands on. Needless to say, these are ideas the mainstream +scientific community wants no part of. That doesn't make Hoagland wrong, +necessarily, but it definitely places him on the fringe. + +At first blush, he certainly looks normal enough: a well-groomed, bearded man +of 48 dressed in faultless business attire. Our conversation began on a normal +note, too, with a discussion of parking strategies in Upper Manhattan and the +challenges of finding coffee in offices on Friday afternoon. When we got +around to the subject at hand0--the alleged words described in his 420-page +book, The Monuments of Mars--Hoagland stepped up to the "mike" like a seasoned +pol in the midst of a long campaign. And it has been a long campaign. For 11 +years he has crisscrossed the country, trying to get scientists to seriously +consider the possibility that an advanced civilization has left calling cards +of various sizes and shapes all over the solar system. Whoever they were, +Hoagland jests, "they cared enough to leave the very best." + +Well--versed in many areas of science and space exploration, Hoagland has held +several high posts at science museums and planetariums since 1965. He's been +space consultant to NBC and CBS News and editor-in-cheif at Star and Sky +magazine. His most far-reaching accomplishment--the plaque on the Pioneer +space probe he conceived with Eric Burgess, cofounder of the British +Interplanetary Society--has left the solar system and is now drifting in +interstellar space. The message carried aboard the spacecraft could outlive +Earth itself, Hoagland claims. + +Although closer to home, his current activities are in some ways father out. +For more than a decade, Hoagland has worked with several dozen scientists +investigating the Mars face, a mile-long Sphinxlike protuberance first spotted +in photographs taken by the Viking Orbiter in 1976. During subsequent +examinations of photos of this Martian region known as Cydonia, Hoagland +identified a collection of pyramid-shaped mounds and objects he calls the +city. He and Erol Torun, a cartographer at the Pentagon's Defense Mapping +Agency, conducted an involved geometric analysis of the region. They claim the +Martian geometry--which to the uninitiated looks like a bizarre mishmash of +lines--strikingly resembles the pattern of angles observed among pyramids in +Egypt and Mexico, at Stonehenge, and even recent crop circles. How could this +be? Hoagland suggests an answer: Extraterrestrials may have tinkered with our +planet in ways we're just beginning to appreciate. His investigation, he's +quick to point out, is wholly unrelated to the UFO abduction phenomenon. "Our +work has nothing to do with things that go bump in the night or people +claiming to be snatched from their beds." + +No one denies that Hoagland has performed the most detailed analysis of +Cydonia ever undertaken. If anything, critics say, the analysis is too +detailed, given the data available. "Since the pictures are less than ideal, +there is a tendency to overwork them and draw conclusions that may go beyond +reason," says NASA Ames planetary scientist Chris McKay (Omni Interview, July +1992). "There's no doubt the thing looks like a face, but the conclusion that +it was built by some civilization is a huge, huge leap." + +Cornell astronomer Carl Sagan argues that given the human propensity for +picking out faces amid random patterns, it's not surprising that somewhere on +the 150 million-square-kilometer surface of Mars we might find something +resembling a human face. To him, this feature is no more remarkable than a +tortilla chip said to display the face of Jesus Christ, and eggplant +supposedly resembling Richard Nixon, or a radar image of Venus containing the +visage of Joseph Stalin. + +The scientific community--and NASA in particular--has vested interest in +ignoring him, counters Hoagland, which he attributes, in part, to the "not +invented here" syndrome: "After spending a billion dollars to search for signs +of life on Mars and coming up empty handed, they might be just a little +embarrassed if a small group of amateurs found the evidence that eluded them." +NASA, Hoagland charges, has also engaged in a systematic "pattern of abuse, +ridicule, personal character assassination, distortion of data, and +misrepresentation of the facts going back to 1976." + +Hoagland's counterattack has become more than a fulltime job. Through Mars +Mission, the 20,000 member, New Jersey-based public interest group he heads, +he's lobbying to "open the files" on Cydonia and restore "honesty in +government." He has touted his cause on TV, while making appearances at NASA +and the United Nations. In his spare time he tries to raise funds for a +private mission to the moon or Mars. His efforts have been nothing short of +monumental. But the question remains: Is it all an elaborate "delusion," as he +once asked in the book? Is he a latter-day Don Quixote tilting at Martina +sphinxes? Or has he stumbled upon a phenomenon so fantastic the rest of the +world cannot face up to it, despite a body of evidence he now calls +"conclusive?" + +Steve Nadis + +Omni: After so many years studying something the rest of the world either +hasn't seen or doesn't believe, have you ever doubted your sanity? + +Hoagland: I don't think we're crazy. Posing that question in the book was +just a way of expressing my own incredulity, as well as sharing with the +readers the feeling that this stuff is pretty amazing. I grew up on the +Twilight Zone, Buck Rogers, Robert Heinlein, Arthur C Clarke, Isaac Asimov. +But I never imagined I'd find myself in the middle of a bona fide +investigation of possible extraterrestrial artifacts. Never. Ever. So I +thought it was important to remind the reader that I'm always asking myself: +Can we prove this; can we test this; can we take this from the realm of +science fiction to the realm of science fact? + +Hoagland: The weird stuff by definition is the stuff that doesn't fit, things +not discussed. Exceptions. Aberrations. But in the history of science you +find, first, there are semiperodic revolutions where all of what was accepted +wisdom is tossed out, and the weird stuff of the old becomes the accepted +stuff of the new order. Second, the revolutions are never accomplished by +those in he field--always by outsiders coming in with a fresh point of view. +I've been attracted to the exceptions because they may lead to that big +paradigm shift. + +Omni: What give outsiders the edge? + +Hoagland: Lack of vested interest. People in the field have their careers and +job security on the line, their house and car payments, maybe kids in college. +They have reason not to want to overthrow a system that's rewarding them quite +well. Outsiders don't have the reputation to protect, so they're more likely +to pursue an aberrant idea. If you're in a field for 10,20,30 years, you +develop a certain way of looking at things. You develop blinders. The thing can +be right in front of you, staring you in the face, and you don't see it. + +In the early Seventies, when the American Apollo program was winding to a +close, the environment had become the big rage at CBS, where I worked as an +adviser to Walter Cronkite. I could have gone into toxic sludge and made a +nice career of it, but I decided not to because I was as sure then as I am +today that if the human race is going to have a destiny, it has to incorporate +space in a big way. After many battles with the network, I decided to leave in +1972 and privately pursue space as a critical avenue for the future of the +human species. At the time, of course, I didn't know that I'd find evidence +that may be the lever to get society to realize how important space is. If we +find evidence the human race is not alone, it's not going to be on this +planet, but through the monuments of Mars and maybe the stuff on the moon, and +that will have vindicated my faith that, yes, this is important. + +Omni: How did you react when you first saw the face? Did it make a big +impression? + +Hoagland: Actually, it didn't. I had two opportunities to take it seriously +and rejected it twice. I have great sympathy for people who say: "Oh my God! +Come on, give me a break. This can't be real. "Because I've been there. I was +at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in 1976 when Viking project scientist +Gerry Soffen showed us this kind of quirky face and said: "Isn't it cute what +tricks of light and shadow can do?" We all giggled and went about our +business. It had to be a trick of lighting. Absolutely no way this thing could +be real. + +Then I went to Boulder in 1981 to attend the "Case for Mars" conference. One +night I saw a group of people staring at a projection screen with a big blowup +of the face on Mars. Except this face looked much more striking than the +knobby, gnarly thing we'd been shown at JPL. Vince DiPietro and Greg Molenaar, +engineers at Goddard Space Flight Center who'd gone through the original NASA +data and done state-of-the-art image processing, gave me a copy of their +monograph and I though, "Nah, it's just freak of nature." I took the +monograph one, put it on a shelf, and went back to the stuff I was doing. + +Omni: When did the idea finally take hold? + +Hoagland: In 1983, DiPietro sent me a packet of stuff, photographic samples of +their work on Mars. In the quietness of my den, it was just me and the +photographs, and I thought, "Damn, this is peculiar!" The images were very +crisp. They brought out details totally unavailable in the raw data. For the +first time I considered: What if this isn't just a weird, eroded mountain? +What if we're looking at an artifact? That simple though set in motion a +snowballing process that continues to this day. + +Omni: Was it a question of timing, finding yourself in the right frame of +mind? + +Hoagland: Probably of having the data and peace and quiet to really think +about it. I began to wonder that it'd mean for the human species to have +absolute, factual knowledge that the race is not alone. Not as a distant radio +signal from Alpha Centauri or somewhere out there, but as a set of existing +ruins in our own back yard, accessible with late twentieth-century technology. +Balancing the small probability of the against the overwhelming, almost +incalculable importance, I realized that, damn it, this data required somebody +doing something more. + +Omni: Let's talk about your big breakthrough--the discovery of something you +call the city on Mars. + +Hoagland: Well, I was looking down at the Viking imagery, photographed from +1,000 miles overhead, studying this striking, bilaterally symmetric image of a +humanoid face. Making the comparisons down a center line, it's about 90 to 95 +percent symmetric. There's no easy way for geology to give you that kind of +symmetry, Then I started wondering where one might go to get a good view of +this sculpture. Examining the left-hand side of the photograph, I spotted a +collection of pyramid-shaped objects. The middle of this complex presented an +exquisite view of the face looking across the Martian desert. + +In measuring this complex with a protractor and straightedge, I noticed +unexpected alignments. There was way too much order, pattern, linearity. +Later, when Erol Torun joined me, I uncovered a redundant, specific geometry +in the collection of pyramids we call the "city" and in the face--a specific, +repeating pattern of angles, mathematical constants, and equations, It became +apparent we weren't looking at pyramids in the Egyptian sense; some appeared +to be hollow. + +Omni: You assume that at one time these may have been living quarters? + +Hoagland: Yes. Considering the current Martian environment--mostly carbon +dioxide at one one-hundredth the air pressure at sea level on Earth--it's +pretty obvious if someone were to live on Mars, he or she would need some kind +of artificial environment. I was reminded of the arcologies, architectural +ecologies proposed by Paolo Soleri, which are like Biosphere II in Arizona: +large, enclosed environments with greenhouses, factories, and energy systems-- +huge three-dimensional condominiums, miles in diameter. The things we're +seeing on Mars, the individual structures making up the city, seem to be +pyramids on the order of a mile or two in diameter. This is roughly what +Soleri was figuring is necessary to accommodate several million inhabitants. + +Omni: In the book you admit that in the early stages of the discovery process, +you desired there to be a city. Might you have , to some extent, willed this +city into existence? + +Hoagland: No. I was sharing with the reader my constant ambivalence. I'd love +this to be true, but also I'm saying to myself, come on, it can't be. We've +been brought up in a culture which for the last 30 years has shown us a dead +and lifeless solar system. People think the only place they'll see aliens or +lost civilizations is on Star Trek. Certainly not in photos taken of any piece +of real estate in the solar system. I was simply trying to be honest. I didn't +immediately embrace this; I had to be dragged. Had to drag myself, kicking and +screaming, inch by inch, micron by micron. Only when we got the numerical +data, this incredible, precise geometry giving us algorithms, a new physics, +and predictive examples of astronomy, could I go back and say "It has to be a +city." This phenomenon has to be a complex designed by intelligent beings, +because too much stuff checks out. There's a lane of circumstantial evidence +four miles wide. + +Omni: Maybe so, but some critics like Carl Sagan aren't convinced. + +Hoagland: Sagan has this curious argument, "Extraordinary claims require +extraordinary evidence," with which I flatly and totally disagree. That little +syllogism contains a fatal trap: the idea that you know enough to decide which +is an extraordinary claim. Who's in a position to judge? I can always shut you +off by claiming your evidence is insufficient because of the extraordinary +nature of the claim. The critics keep changing the rules of the game--with +each new piece of objective, scientific data this investigation has marshalled +in favor of the "intelligence hypothesis." They keep moving the goal line, +meaning there's no way we can win. + +Omni: So you consider this an impossible burden of proof? + +Hoagland: You bet. It allows people to kill an idea by claiming that (a) it's +extraordinary, and (b) there's not enough evidence. It fosters a subjectivity +that is bottomless. + +Omni: You're suggesting people haven't looked into your claims for political +reasons. But might it be the scientific evidence you've put forward just isn't +compelling enough to warrant a closer look? + +Hoagland: Well, they haven't looked, so how could they know? That we have the +data on the table, and the powers within NASA or above and beyond have not +seen fit to test our hypothesis, says something about the shortcomings of the +politics of this phenomenon, not the science of it. + +Omni: But on a technical note, if you might address one point critics have +raised--the tendency to see faces in clouds, on mountains and the moon. The +human face is the most familiar pattern we're conditioned to recognize. + +Hoagland: That's Sagan's argument, and it falls apart because out of all those +mesas we've looked at, only one resembles a human face. It also happens to be +one that's part of a complex possessing stunning geometry. The extraordinary +details we've found are as specific as finding New York City. What are the +odds of finding a series of rectilinear structures laid out on a slender +granite slab in the northeast region of the United States? You could say +there's a tendency to see rectilinearly, which there is. Somebody built this +rectilinear table, but they did it because that's what Euclidean geometry and +the penchant for intelligence compels us to do--to order the universe in +geometric patterns. And that is they key to decoding the features we're seeing +on Mars. + +Omni: What other evidence supports your view? + +Hoagland: Near the face, we find a collection of pyramidlike objects that, in +fact, morphologically, are pyramids. Hard, objective science demonstrates +we're not dealing with "tricks of light and shadow," but with actual pyramidal +and/or facelike objects. The point of contention now is their origin. Are they +pyramidal and facelike because of natural processes--wind, water, erosion--or +were they built? + +One way to answer that question is by factual analysis, objective computer +criteria for discerninganomalies from natural background patterns. Mark +Carlotto and Michael Stein used this technique and picked out the face as the +most nonfactual, that is, the weirdest, most unnatural piece of Martian real +estate in the several thousand square miles we looked at. Finally, we have my +real contribution--the discovery of a geometric pattern linking several +objects within a few miles of each other on this Martian plane. It's a +recurring theme whose purpose seems to introduce us to a set of equations +opening up a whole new window on physics. This geometric pattern then argues +strongly that this complex was designed. There is meaning. + +Omni: What is this meaning? + +Hoagland: The geometry apparently was designed to communicate two fundamental +constants of nature: pi, the ratio of the circumference of a circle to the +diameter, and e, the base of natural logarithms. When you divide pi onto e, +you get the ratio, 0.865. That number shows up within and between these +objects dozens of times. The odds of that happening by chance are +astronomical. That geometry and mathematical code confirms predictions made by +other researchers, particularly in astrophysics. Basically, it says spinning +objects like stars or planets should show upwellings of energy at specific +latitudes--19.5 degrees north or south, for example. Starting with the sun and +moving all the way out to Neptune, this prediction is confirmed. + +Omni: Can you say a bit more about this new physics? + +Hoagland: This theory, based on "hyperdimensional: mathematics, appears to +provide a fundamental connection between the four forces of nature. In our +universe energy flows downhill. Heat goes from hot to cold, from higher to +lower energy. So we considered that the math at Cydonia is telling us about +higher dimensions. A spinning object such as a planet, connected to a higher +dimensions. A spinning object such as a planet, connected to a higher and +lower dimension, should exhibit a weird energy anomaly, an unusual +manifestation from an invisible, higher dimension that shows up as an energy +excess in our normal three-dimensional existence. We found examples of this in +Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, all of which are radiating more energy +than they're taking in form any observable source. + +Omni: I a new mathematics and physics is being communicated, who is doing the +communicating and why? + +Hoagland: Suppose we're seeing on Mars a sophisticated, high-tech culture with +access to technology based on a physics that is ligh-years beyond our current +thinking. Then maybe, just maybe, this civilization might leave us, the "new +kids on the block," clues, remnants, artifacts, to help us along. We have many +examples on Earth of advanced cultures lending a helping hand to less advanced +ones. We're losing the race between technology and population. Unless we +introduce something radically new to grab everybody's attention and make them +act like they're all part of the same species and stop killing other species +on this planet--we're doomed. + +Omni: You figure these folks came from outside the solar system? + +Hoagland: Do you see any place in the solar system where a high-tech, +indigenous civilization could have originated? I went through the list of +candidates and eliminated every place. If somebody did something on Mars, they +had to come from beyond the solar system. That was my position until a few +days ago. Now, some new data has come to the fore that's incredibly +speculative, but worth considering. There's a string of rubble between Mars +and Jupiter called the asteroids. There are comets. The origin of asteroids +and comets is ambiguous. The existing model holds that they are bits of debris +left over from the formation of the solar system. Now a new model suggests +asteroids and comets are actually remnants of a planet that exploded. If so, +where did it come from, and why did it disappear? + +One possibility is that it used to be inhabited by a high-tech civilization +that developed a technology capable of destroying worlds. If this view is +confirmed, it will lead to a new theory for where the builders of Mars' +monuments came from. And a striking object lesson as well. It would be +sobering indeed, to confirm high-tech predecessors in the solar system that +blew themselves and their entire planet away because they were too ignorant to +handle what they'd figured out. + +Omni: How could you verity such an incredibly speculative proposition? + +Hoagland: We could rendezvous with a chunk of an asteroid and see if there's +something down there. We could look at other bodies in the solar system. If +we're not dealing with a visit from outside the solar system, then odds are +they put colonies not just on Mars, but on the moon and other places. There is +a whole bunch of real estate out there to visit. We've been looking at the +moon for two years. If someone built the monuments of Mars, maybe they would +have appreciated the biological role of the e moon upon Earth in the +hyperdimensional model. But the moon has 15 million square miles, so where do +you look? The math and geometry made a set of predictions, and when we started +looking at the most obvious site--on space-based, NASA-based, and Earth-based +photographs--we found a large crater containing an equilateral triangle, and a +series of stunning clues and structures that are positively baffling, if +they're not artificial. + +Our evidence strongly suggests that at one time, there was some kind of large- +scale habitation and construction on the lunar structure. Again, we seem to be +looking at arcologies, enclosed environments. The great advantage, in contrast +to the couple of photographs we have of Cydonia, is that we have millions of +pictures of the moon, including almost two million photographs taken recently +by the Pentagon's unmanned Clementine spacecraft. + +Omni: Just how big are these lunar structures, anyway? + +Hoagland: Very big--hundreds of miles across and tens of miles high. The moon +is an easy place to build very large structures, with one-sixth Earth's +gravity, no hurricanes, wind, thunderstorms, or earthquakes. + +Omni: Why didn't the Apollo astronauts see anything? + +Hoagland: Well, when I was going through the Apollo transcripts, I found +comments suggesting some astronauts did see the things we have now +rediscovered on the photographs, but didn't recognize what they were seeing. +They were told they were going to a lifeless, uninhabited world and were never +briefed about the possibility of seeing artificial structures. + +Omni: How could they have been prepared otherwise? + +Hoagland: A 1961 Brookings Institution report, commissioned by NASA, discussed +this very contingency--that artifacts may be discovered by our space +activities on the moon, Mars, or Venus. The study described two viable options +for confirming extraterrestrial intelligence. One was a search for artifacts +in the solar system; the other, a radio search for signals from +extraterrestrials light-years away. The only E.T.s we ever expected to find +were those who call us on the phone from Alpha Centauri. The notion of finding +alien artifacts, somewhere, was considered politically unacceptable. + +Omni: What, in you opinion, is behind this apparent bias? + +Hoagland: The Brookings document discussed the possibility of finding +artifacts and E.T. radio signals and considered the potential risk to our +civilization. But what' the risk in artifacts? They communicate information +that will change the status quo in science, technology, anthropology, and so +on. New technology could lead to bigger, better things, including perhaps, +weapons. Ultimately, Brookings was saying what I said a few moments ago: +Unbridled knowledge in the hands of children can destroy a planet. So, the +only safe course, or so Brookings recommended, would be to not tell the +American people of such a discovery. + +Omni: Since such a revelation could overthrow everything we know, how should +it be presented to the public? + +Hoagland: Look at what we've lived with for the last 40 years. Every morning, +as kids got up and every night as they went to bed, they had to consider +seriously that they wouldn't wake up the next morning, that somewhere, someone +would push the wrong button and 50,000 nuclear warheads would turn this planet +into a flaming pyre. Somehow we dealt with this awesome, frightening +capability by openly discussing nuclear policy and proliferation. We now need +an adult attitude toward extraterrestrial intelligence whereby we can +rationally asses the possibility the human race is not alone. + +Omin: How might it "change the history of human consciousness? + +Hoagland: The standard biological models sys the human race is the result of +trillions of random decisions made in Earth's isolated environment. If you +roll the dice again, you'll come to the conclusion that, yes, you might have +intelligence on another planet, but it couldn't possibly look like us. It's +against that backdrip that we go to Mars. We take a set of pictures. And find +a mile-long 1,500-foot-high effigy that looks like us. Since you can pretty +effectively rule out that we did it, you're only left with a few +possibilities: an indigenous Martian culture, and exterior culture from beyond +the solar system, of a variant--another culture on another planet somewhere in +the solar system. + +The problem is, it looks like us. Standard evolutionary biology says it can't +look like us. So it either means something about biology is totally whacko and +we don't understand it at all, or there has been contact between somebody out +there and somebody down here. In that case, we may be looking at some kind of +calling card specifically designed to capture our attention. It says very +simply that either the universe creates, over and over agin, conscious +sentient beings in our image or that somebody went to a lot of trouble to put +a version of us down on the Martian surface to tell us about prior contact. +Either scenario is awesome! If there is a universal template forcing +intelligence to assume a human form, that's pretty amazing; the other +possibility is that aliens have somehow meddled in the affairs of Earth. + +Omni: How far do you suppose this "medding" might have gone? + +Hoagland: Perhaps the face on Mars is evidence someone has used genetic +engineering to influence biological development in this environment for +reasons that are currently unknown. + +Omni: Why would someone do that? For kicks? Profit? Altruism? + +Hoagland: Who knows? But suppose somebody who knew a lot more than we currently +know arrived here, looked around, and said: "Whoops! They're not going to make +it." And they did something to give us a better chance, something enabling us +to pass on the favor some day. It may have been a little tinkering or a lot of +tinkering. Suppose they also decided to leave us a memorial, so when we grew +up and to to Mars we could thank them. + +Omni: If true, that would cause a revolution in science and philosophy. + +Hoagland: The history of science or philosophy can be viewed as a series of +successive dethronements. A few thousand years ago, we--whichever people we +were--considered ourselves the chosen of God. Things moved along and we found +maybe we're not so chosen, but at least Earth was the center of the universe. +Then along came Copernicus. For awhile, we clung to the idea the sun is still +the center of the universe, until we found it's just an average star on the +periphery of an average galaxy in a universe of billions and billions of +galaxies. But at least we were still the only sentient beings in the entire +cosmos. Maybe one reason people refuse to seriously consider the artifacts on +Mars or the moon has to do with the "last dethronement." If we were to find +evidence of structures in our own back yard, we'd no longer even be the first +civilization in this solar system. It was once someone else's! + +Omni: What do you see as your role in this "last dethronement? + +Hoagland: Now I'm just excited about having the chance to explore this prospect +in my lifetime--just being part of this enormous revolution, being able to +continue the search for extraterrestrial intelligence and to try to figure it +all out. That is much more exciting than any place in history. The struggle +will not be over when NASA finally, grudgingly acknowledges there are +artifacts. That confirmation of our discovery is not the end point at all. It's +just the beginning. It opens the door. + +END OF INTERVIEW + +Medium-angle, unenhanced original Apollo photograph, taken from lunar orbit 70 +miles above the moon in the vicinity of the lunar craters Ukert and +Triesnecker. The mission photograph AS10-32-4822, was acquired by an Apollo +astronaut using a hand-held 70 mm camera. Date: May 1969, mission: Apollo 10-- +pre-landing lunar orbital test flight for Apollo 11. The highly reflective +structures and background fragmentary geometric pattern are completely +inexplicable by any know lunar analysis carried out by NASA. The independent +scientific investigation currently being conducted by the Mars Mission (into +this and other NASA lunar photographs--see text) indicates an increasing +likelihood that these anomalous objects are in fact the product of intelligent +design. The largest anomalous fragment in the photograph is termed "the +Castle." It appears to be a manufactured, highly geometric object--exact size +currently unknown--embedded in a "gridlike" framework (remnants of a former +"lunar dome") estimated to extend approximately 30 miles above the lunar +surface. This particular version of the original Apollo photograph (one of +several Apollo 10 images discovered mysteriously archived under this identical +frame number) was supplied to the Mars Mission by sources inside NASA. +Subsequently, several public versions of this remarkable Apollo photograph-- +complete with the Castle and the grid--have been confirmed. + +In this computer-enhanced, false-color close-up of frame III-84M, another +remarkable object is seen just to the left of the Shard. Termed "the Cube," it +appears to be a seven-mile-high, one-mile-wide, geometric glasslike structure +composed of myriad "subcubes"--suspended in a darker, highly eroded, oqually +geometric matrix. The colors correspond to differing light intensities on the +original Lunar Orbiter frame: yellow and red indicating the brightest, shading +to green, blue, and magenta for the dimmest. Note the most intense light +scattering (red/yellow) is coming from the highly geometric interior of the +Cube (as opposed to its exterior surfaces). This is totally inconsistent with +any geologic object, but is highly consistent with a degraded, manufactured, +semitransparent, eroded glass structure. The highly eroded condition of this +anomalous feature, and its surrounding, darker structure, is thought to be due +to prolonged meteor bombardment--indicating literally millions of years of +exposure on the airless lunar surface. + +This false-color, medium-angle shot of the distant lunar horizon in III-84M-- +viewed from the unmanned 1967 Lunar Orbiter III, orbiting 30 miles above the +moon--reveals two striking lunar anomalies together: the Shard (right) and the +Cube (left), extending vertically miles above the airless lunar surface. In +this computer-enhanced view, the bright line slanting upward from the left is +a photographic frame line of the original Orbiter III mosaic; note that the +structures are not aligned with (or at right angles to) this prominent +photographic feature, but are aligned with the local vertical--toward the +center of the moon. Light intensities of the original film have been changed +by the computer to corresponding colors, to bring out the fainter extension of +a highly eroded structural "tower" connecting the Cube downward with the lunar +surface seven miles below; surrounding this lower can be seen other hints of +sparkling, fragmentary "structure"--indicating that these bright features are +only the surviving remnants of a once far more complete, much larger, +intelligently manufactured structure on the moon. Photographic experts, +geologists, and manufacturing engineers with the Mars Mission have ruled out +simple photographic defects or geologic features to explain these objects; +increasing evidence (from other NASA missions) and expanding analysis indicates +that these light-scattering features--in an airless, cloudless lunar vacuum-- +most likely represent actual surviving remnants of some type of ancient "lunar +dome-like structure," possibly once covering much of Sinus Medii--perhaps +constructed by visitors colonizing the moon with extremely advanced +engineering technology millions of years ago. Return lunar missions will +either confirm or deny this hypothesis. + +Lick Observatory photograph of the Sinus Medii central region of the full +moon. The large white circle is the rim of the sixteen-mile-diameter crater, +Ukert, located just north of Sinus Medii, viewed from Earth through a large +telescope under "high noon" lighting. Note the remarkably perfect equilateral +triangle darkening the crater floor. It was this striking geometric symbol-- +directly connected to the mathematical decoding of the "Monuments of Mars" +(see text in accompanying article)--which led Richard C. Hoagland in 1992 to +examine this region of the moon for potential alien artifacts. + +A ruined skyscraper on the moon? This striking object has been termed "the +Shard," a name deliberately chosen by the investigation to imply that it could +have once been part of a significantly larger feature. Photographed on film, +scanned, and radioed back to Earth in February 1967 by NASA's unmanned Lunar +Orbiter III(III-84M), the structure is a vertical, "swollen" column--casting a +distinctive corresponding shadow--standing at least a mile and a half above +the sharp horizon of the airless lunar surface. (The geometric crosslike +feature seen above the column is a camera registration mark, placed on the +Orbiter film before the spacecraft left Earth.) The Shard is located just +southwest of the Sinus Medii central region of the moon. Note carefully the +geometric detail visible inside the swollen middle section of the Shard; there +is no plausible geological explanation for this, or any other aspect of this +striking object. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2832.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2832.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..50de6653 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2832.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +SUBJECT: SCANNING SKIES FOR ALIEN LIFE FILE: UFO2832 + + +BY MELODY PETERSEN Mercury News + + +In an Australian sheep pasture, Santa Clara County researchers are working day +and night to prepare for the most sweeping search ever for intelligent life +outside the Earth. + +Using the huge Parkes radio telescope in New South Wales and truck filled with +Silicon Valley computers, the group from Mountain View's SETI Institute will +begin to listen for cosmic conversation between aliens at 4 p.m. Wednesday, +California time. + +Serious science + +Although it may sound like something straight out of a supermarket tabloid -- +Scientists to Eavesdrop on Aliens! --this is serious stuff, at least 30 years +in the making. The scientists and technicians take pains not to promise too +much in their search for extraterrestrial intelligence, which they abbreviate +as SETI. There are too many unknowns. + +But they declare proudly that this search is far more advanced than any to +date. + +"We could have success at any step," said SETI physicist John Dreher, "but +we're prepared for the long journey. It might take a decade. It might take a +century." + +Even that long wait would be worth it, researchers say, since the earthly +impacts of overhearing an unearthly discussion would be profound. + +Would end a lot of conflict + +"It would be a historic event that would galvanize humanity into a more +cohesive body," said Barney Oliver, a retired Hewlett-Packare vice president +who has worked with Mountain View's SETI Institute since 1971. "To realize +we're one of many civilizations would create a bond between us here on Earth +and end a lot of social conflict." + +During the five-month experiment known as Project Phoenix, scientists will use +the 210-foot-diameter Parkes antenna -- the largest in the southern hemisphere +-- to eavesdrop on sounds in the vicinities of 200 nearby stars. Because the +carefully chosen stars are similar to our sun, they are more likely than most +to have a planet like Earth circling them. + +Researchers will listen for signals that intelligent beings may have +intentionally sent our way, said SETI scientist Seth Shostak, or for signals +that may have inadvertently escaped from a distant planet much like " the +sounds of 'I Love Lucy' come off the earth." + +28 million radio channels + +SETI's high-speed computers, shipped to Australia from Mountain View, will +analyze some 28 million radio channels at once. + +"Unfortunately , ET didn't send us a postcard to tell us where on the radio +dial we could find him," Shostak said. + +To the SETI computers, an artificially produced extraterrestrial signal would +look much like a lone tree sticking out in a wide field of scrub. + +Although searches for cosmic radio signals began 35 years ago, Project Phoenix +uses equipment that can search 28 million channels -- three times as many as +the last search -- said SETI President Frank Drake, who carried out the first +such search in 1960. Plus, scientists can now check out any unusual signal +immediately. Before scientists gathered sounds and analyzed the data later. + +"This experiment is thousands to a million times better in the technical sense +than previous experiments have been," Shostak said. "Will we hear something +before the millennium? Yes, I think we will." + +Shostak may be one of the more optimistic scientists, but even the National +Academy of Sciences has praised SETI's approach. Project Phoenix is a smaller +version of a 10-year NASA program that was abruptly canceled by Congress in +the fall of 1993 after on senator called it the "great Martian chase." NASA +had spent $60 million on the search, including $30 million on equipment. + +But with $4 million in donations from some of the high-tech industry's most +powerful players -- including David Packard and William R. Hewlett, founders +of Hewlett-Packard; Gordon Moore, co-founder and chairman of Intel; and Paul +Allen, Microsoft's co-founder and owner of the Portland Trail Blazers +basketball team -- the non-profit SETI Institute was able to upgrade the NASA +equipment to continue the search. + +Researchers plan to complete their 200-star survey at Parkes, a town about 250 +miles west of Sydney, in June. It is not easy duty; Shostak notes that Parkes +has one of the highest concentrations anywhere of poisonous snakes and +spiders. After finishing their work there, they will move to radio telescopes +in the northern hemisphere, where they plan to look at 1,000 stars by the year +2000. + +In their search for unearthly life, the scientists are motivated as much by +skepticism as optimism. Almost to a person, they do not believe in UFOs. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2833.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2833.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b0520a94 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2833.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,516 @@ +SUBJECT: THE OMNI OPEN BOOK FIELD INVESTIGATOR'S GUIDE FILE: UFO2833 + +PART 1 + +ARTICLE BY DENNIS STACY + +A GUIDE FOR THE SERIOUS UFO INVESTIGATOR SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN ONE +OF THE GREAT MYSTERIES OF THIS CENTURY. + +EDITOR'S NOT: This is the first of twelve chapters in the Omni Open Book Field +Investigator's Guide, the ultimate tool kit for hunting UFOs. In his first +installment, Dennis Stacy tells UFO hunters how to locate "prey"--in other +words, a UFO worth investigating at all. + +The Need for a Guide: + +On November 2, 1957, at about 10:00 p.m. --long before the world at large knew +of it--the Soviets launched their second dog-carrying Sputnik. An hour later, +on the flat plains of the Texas panhandle, near the otherwise unremarkable +town of Levelland, ranch hands Pedro Saucedo and Joe Salaz encountered +something that forever changed their lives. + +According to Saucedo's signed statement, "I was traveling north and west on +Route 116, driving my truck. At about four miles out of Levelland, I saw a big +flame, to my right front. I thought it was lightning." The white and yellow +torpedo-shaped object, Saucedo went on to say, apparently made his truck's +motor stop and the headlights fail. Traveling at some 600 to 800 miles an +hour, he estimated, the object generated so much heat he "had to hit the +ground." + +Over the next two hours, Patrolman A.J. Fowler would receive at least a dozen +more calls, all of them from independent witnesses reporting much the same +thing. For instance, at 12:05 a.m., a 19-year-old Texas Tech freshman said he +was driving his car nine miles east of Levelland when the motor suddenly +"started cutting out like it was out of gas." The Headlights dimmed, then went +out altogether after the car rolled to a stop. The student raised the hood but +could find nothing obviously wrong with the engine or electrical wiring. +Returning to the driver's seat, he now noticed an egg-shaped object, flat on +the bottom, sitting astride the highway in front of him. It glowed bluish- +green, he reported, and looked to be 125 feet long and made of an +alumin9imlike material with no viable details or markings. Frightened, he +tried turning the motor over again, but the car would not start. Shortly, the +UFO rose "almost straight up," disappearing "in a split instant." He tried the +ignition again; the car started, and the lights came on, and he drove home, +although he did not report the incident to Fowler--"for fear of ridicule"-- +until the following afternoon, after his parents told him he should. + +Nationwide, the Levelland sightings garnered almost as much press attention as +the new Soviet satellite, eventually forcing the Air Force's Project Blue Book +to send an investigator to the site,(Project Blue Book, first under the +auspices of the Air Technical Intelligence Center, or ATIC, and later run out +of the Foreign Technology Division, was the official Air Force agency charged +with investigating UFOs. Its immediate predecessors, also associated with the +Air Force, were Project Sign and Project Gudge.) According to the now-deceased +astronomer J. Alien Hynek of Northwestern University, The Project Blue Book's +scientific consultant, the Levelland investigation, conducted by a member of +the 1006th Air Intelligence Service Squadron (AISS) was cursory at best. +Writing in his now classic book, The UFO Experience (Henry Regnery Company, +Chicago 1972), Hynek states, "I was told that the Blue Book investigation +consisted of the appearance of one man in civilian clothes at the sheriff's +office at about 11:45 a.m. on November 5; he made two auto excursions during +the day and then told Sheriff Clem that he was finished." + +According to Temple University historian David Jacobs, author of another +classic volume, The UFO Controversy in America (Indiana University Press, +Bloomington, 1975), "the officer failed to interview nine of the fifteen +witnesses and also erroneously stated that lightning had been in the area at +the time of the sightings." Indeed, the Air Force and Project Blue Book +ultimately attributed the incidents to "weather phenomenon of [an] electrical +nature, generally classified as 'ball lightning' or 'St. Elmos's fire,' caused +by stormy conditions in the area, including mist, rain, thunderstorms, and +lightning." the engine stalls and headlight failures? "Wet electrical +circuits," said the Air Force. "Privately," Jacobs observes, "Blue Book +officers believed the Levelland sightings were obviously an example of mass +suggestion." + +The upshot of the ball lightning pronouncement was an angry spate of +criticisms by editorial writers and the growing legion of civilian UFO +organizations, charging the Air Force with ignorance or incompetence at best +and a purposeful cover-up of the UFO phenomenon at worst. The outrage was +exacerbated when 500 more UFO cases poured into Project Blue Book over the +next couple of months, making it the most explosive UFO year since 1952. + +In response to all the brouhaha, the Air Force launched an investigation of +its own UFO operation. The recommendation? That some 20 men be assigned to a +UFO detail. What's more, suggested the Air Technical Intelligence Center at +Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio,, where the study was done, +the Air Force would do well to create a standard UFO kit containing an +operating procedure manual and other tools necessary for investigating the +mysterious,alleged craft. That way, when the 20 UFO experts went out on +assignment, there would be no more foolish errors. They'd know what to do. + +The report also recommended that the Air Force investigate press reports and +not just those reaching Project Blue Book through direct channels, including +Air Force pilots or radar operators. It was assumed that such actions might +deflect civilian criticism and at the same time drastically reduce the number +of reports classified "unknown" or "insufficient data." Indeed, as of November +1958, these two categories were accounting for 20 percent of all UFO reports +received to date. + +Unfortunately, the staff recommendations were never implemented. The notion of +a UFO tool kit was quickly quashed, along with any idea of a rapid deployment +team. Instead, Project Blue Book limped along much as it had before, +understaffed and underfunded Press clippings were stuffed into boxes and later +thrown away. Letters and reports from the general public generally went +unanswered and uninvestigated. + +Even so, from the summer of 1947 until December 19, 1969, Air Force +representatives amassed 12,618 official case reports of UFOs, defined by the +Air Force as "any aerial object or phenomenon which the observer is unable to +identify." (Hynek would later amend the definition of a UFO to refer to any +flying objects which "remain unidentified after close scrutiny of all +available evidence by persons who are technically capable of making a common- +sense identification, if one is possible.") Of the 12,000-plus cases studied, +701, or almost 6 percent, were classified "unknown." + +Those cases that were investigated--like Levelland--were typically looked into +lackadaisically when they were looked into at all. The Air Force also indulged +in a little creative bookkeeping. Those cases classified as "probable" or +"insufficient data" were counted on the solved side of the ledger instead of +the unsolved side, skewing the percentage of true unknowns. A growing number +of critics contended that, far from being an investigative agency, Project +Blue Book amounted to little more than a public relations ploy, one designed +to downplay the phenomenon's prevalence and possible importance. + +Even Hynek himself was ultimately disillusioned by his experience as +scientific consultant. "I can safely say that the whole time I was with the +Air Force, we never had naything that resembled a really good scientific +dialogue on the subject," he said shortly before his death in 1986. + +Project Blue Book's death knell was sounded in the spring of 1966, in the wake +of another Air Force boondoggle. At a press conference in March of that year, +Hynek attributed some intriguing Michigan sightings to "swamp gas"--the +spontaneous ignition of methane. The resulting editorial uproar pictured the +Air Force team more as buffoons than villains. If the ball lightning and mass +hysteria explanation of almost a decade earlier had been the first straw in +the public's negative perception of the Air Force's handling of UFO +investigations, swamp gas was the straw that broke the camel's back. + +Before the decade was up, the Air Force would be out of the UFO business for +good. One driving force: a controversial University of Colorado study directed +by physicist Edward U. Condon. Condon's largely negative report summary +concluded that chasing UFOs was a waste of time. Indeed, UFOs seemed shrouded +in secrecy, Condon declared, only because the Air Force resisted "premature +publication of incomplete studies of reports." + +Thrilled by Condon's publicized pronouncements--few reporters were about to +wade through a 965-page report in search of any UFO gems--the Air Force seized +the offered brass ring. On December 17, 1969, in the wake of the +Colorado\Condon study, Secretary of the Air Force Robert C. Seamans, Jr., +announced the closure of Project Blue Book, saying that its continuance +"cannot be justified either on the ground of national security or in the +interest of science." + +Hynek was one of several scientists who saw the situation differently. "When +the long-awaited solution to the UFO problem comes," he said, "I believe that +it will prove to be not merely the next small step in the march of science, +but a mighty and totally unexpected quantum jump." + +A Civilian Blue Book? + +With the Air Force out of the picture since 1969, the burden of investigating +the UFO phenomenon has largely fallen on the shoulders of individuals and a +handful of civilian UFO organizations. While individuals are hardly hampered +by bureaucratic rules, public relations considerations, and other policy +requirements, they can only do so much on their own. Moreover, the weight of +their public pronouncements is linked, directly or indirectly, to their +personal and professional credentials. It's one thing for an established +astronomer, such as Hynek, to speak out about the phenomenon in general; it's +another thing altogether for, say, an advertising executive or fast-food +clerk to claim that Earth is being invaded by genetic engineers from another +planet or galaxy. + +The same is also true of UFO organizations, which are only as good and +efficient as their collective members. One overripe member may not spoil the +whole barrel, but he or she can certainly detract from the overall +respectability of the subject by his or her unbridled comments about what the +UFO phenomenon does or does not ultimately mean. As Hynek and others have been +quick to point out, the U in UFO stands for "Unidentified," not necessarily +for extraterrestrial spaceships and alien abductors in that order. All three +may or may not be related. Some UFOs, however, are almost certainly +unrecognized or little understood natural phenomena, swamp gas and ball +lightning very possibly included. + +The one undeniable truth about the UFO phenomenon--Air Force pronouncements +aside--is that further investigation is still required. According to one +Gallup Poll, some 15 million adult Americans have at one time or another in +their lives witnessed what they believed to be a UFO. Compare that figure with +the 12,618 UFO reports the Air Force collected over 22 years, extrapolate it +worldwide, and it's painfully clear that the UFO phenomenon represents both +the most prevalent and underreported anomalous phenomena of this or any other +century. Even if UFOs aren't a three-dimensional, solid physical object, any +student of human psychology or sociology worth his or her salt should be +suitably intrigued as to why humans continue to report UFOs in vast numbers in +the absence of any unusual stimuli. To say that the best interests of science +will not be served by further study of the UFO phenomenon--in all its myriad, +mysterious manifestations--is to say that science should concern itself only +with things humans don't do, as one of the things they do do is report UFOs-- +even in the face of peer and public ridicule for doing so. If human behavior +isn't of scientific interest, then we might as well drop the soft science +disciplines of anthropology, perceptual psychology, and social interaction +from the academic curriculum. + +In installments to follow, Omni will provide you with the UFO tool kit the Air +Force never produced. The Project Open Book tool kit will allow you to conduct +your own investigation of the persistent UFO phenomenon. It will contain tips +and techniques about locating and classifying UFO reports. It will tell you, +precisely, how to investigate UFO reports. And, it will tell you how to report +and then investigate a sighting of your own. You'll learn how to interview +witnesses, how to collect physical evidence (where indicated), and how to +sniff out potential hoaxes. You'll be instructed in the finer arts of audio +and photographic analysis, both still and video. And you will be provided with +the names and numbers of information sources, both print and electronic. +Hopefully, when your own research is done, you'll share it with your +colleagues. Collectively, we may be able to do what the Air Force couldn't. + +Overcoming the Ridicule Factor + +In order to investigate a UFO case, you must, of course, first find one. +Despite the perceived plethora of sightings, this is not always as easy as it +seems. For one thing, the overwhelming majority of UFO sightings are never +reported. The reason for this reluctance is fairly straightforward: fear of +ridicule. Hynek lamented this situation in a letter written to the magazine, +Physics Today, in which he solicited UFO reports from scientifically trained +observers. "It has been my estimate over the past 20 years," Hynek noted, +"that for every UFO report made, there were at least 10 that went unreported. +Evidence for this comes from the Gallup Poll, the many UFO reports I +subsequently learned of that were not reported to the Air Force, and from my +own queries. There has always been a great reluctance to report in the face of +almost certain ridicule. It would seen that the more trained and sophisticated +the observer, the less prone he is to report unless he could be assured of +anonymity as well as respect for his report." + +Many respondents only reinforced Hynek's fears. One report, from a man who is +now a professional astronomer, had gone unreported for 11 years, precisely +because of a reluctance to face ridicule or embarrassment by peers--and this +despite the fact that his own sighting was corroborated by several other +credible witnesses, including at least two police officers. + +In the summer of 1960, near Walkerton, Ontario, the story went, the man had +observed a ball of light hovering near a tree. As he and several of his +relatives approached to take a picture, "it noticed us, and noiselessly +accelerating at a very high rate, headed almost directly south, disappearing +over the horizon in about two and a half seconds." + +Yet another astronomer had failed to report a pertinent observation out of +embarrassment as well. To sustain his self image as the ultimate scientist, he +"preferred to regard his sighting as being of an unusual physical phenomenon," +according to Hynek, "rather than admit the possibility, perhaps even to +himself, that it was a genuinely new empirical observation." + +Given the embarrassment that seizes the best, most respectable UFO witnesses, +any investigator worth his or her salt must learn to cope with the "ridicule +factor" before an investigation in earnest can begin. But given the right +circumstances, the right individual, and the right approach, the curtain of +ridicule can be overcome, as the large response to Hynek's letter in Physics +Today clearly indicates. For this to happen, the witness/reporter must have +confidence in his or her confidante, as Physics Today respondents clearly did +in Hynek after seeing his credentials. Even with such confidence, moreover, +the UFO witness often must still be drawn out. Few of those embarrassed by a +close encounter, after all, will volunteer the information unless asked to do +so. + +Given the ridicule factor, the UFO hunter in search of a case to investigate +must follow two basic rules: First, to learn about someone's UFO experience, +it's best to ask. Even a lifelong friend may be reluctant to broach the +subject of a UFO sighting unless drawn out. And second, when you do ask, ask +those who have the most confidence in you--your family members and closest +friends. A complete stranger is likely to react with serious reservation when +another stranger arrives suddenly on his doorstep, asking questions about +UFOs. (The stranger the UFO experience this subject has had, moreover, the +higher his or her resistance will be.) + +An example from my own experience may be instructive. In the early 1980s, I +was hired to write a weekly column for the San Antonio Express-News about +unusual events that had taken place in the state of Texas over the years. The +first six months or so went well enough, but inevitably the scramble for +material, or at least significantly different material, set in. By October +(the series had begun the previous December), I was asking friends and +acquaintances--except for "Rudy"--if anything strange or unusual had ever +happened to them. + +My reasons for not asking Rudy were obvious. He taught history at a local +community college, and the shelves of his personal library in a prominent +neighborhood on the north side of town were overburdened with straight +literature, including some 10,000 historical biographies. I had worked with +him on several occasions and was well aware of his disdain for anything +unusual--typified by his attitudes toward mysticism, astrology, and anything +else that remotely smacked of the occult. I assumed this would naturally +include flying saucers and UFOs, too. But I also knew that he had been a B-24 +bombardier during World War II and the heyday of the so-called "foofighter" +phenomenon, in which glowing balls of light had perplexed both Allied and Axis +aircrews during the closing nights of the war. + +On the extremely remote possibility that he might have encountered a +foofighter, I asked Rudy if anything strange had ever happened to him during +his flying days in the war, "No, nothing ever did," he said matter-of-factly, +and that, I assumed, was naturally that. After a brief pause, though, he +said, "but last November, I was driving back from Austin . . .," and promptly +launched into his personal UFO story. Rudy had a sister who lived in Austin, +75 miles north of San Antonio on Interstate Highway 35, whom he frequently +visited. He had been returning to San Antonio alone late one night, probably +after Thanksgiving, and was just south of New Braunfels, about 20 miles from +his own home. The sky was overcast, with a ceiling of about a thousand feet, +and traffic on the highway was relatively light, although there were other +cars and trucks in both the north-and southbound lanes of the four-lane +highway. + +Rudy first became aware of something visible in the upper portion of his +windshield, but continued driving while leaning forward to look up through the +curved glass. To his amazement, he told me, what looked like a flying saucer +flew into view, traveling slowly southward and directly over the righthand +lane he was in. He pulled off onto the shoulder--the only car to do so-- +stopped, and stepped outside for a better view. + +The object was underneath the overcast, probably 800 or 900 feet overhead. "I +can see it clear as daylight now," he said, a year after the fact. "It was +perfectly circular and just under 100 feet in diameter. The outer rim +consisted of a broad flange divided into what might be flaps or at least +individual segments. An antenna hung down from the middle of the object, and +the central portion, the area inside the flaps or flanges, slowly rotated on +its own axis as the whole continued southward down the highway." + +A short distance away, Rudy told me, the vehicle initiated a sharp U-turn and +started back up the north side of the highway, slowly rising as it did. +Eventually it entered the clouds and disappeared from view. Rudy waited a few +more minutes to see if it would reappear. When it didn't, he got in his car +and drove home. "All the way home," he said, "I kept thinking. Sell, that's +it. I'll get up in the morning and the headline will read 'UFO Mystery +Solved!'" But if anyone else had seen or reported Rudy's UFO it certainly +wasn't in the San Antonio papers, and it was almost certainly nothing Rudy +himself would ever bring up in casual cocktail or coffee conversation unless +directly confronted. + +Almost as remarkable as the sighting itself, perhaps, was Rudy's reaction to +it. True, it was unusual and unexpected, apparently a flying craft of +technology radically different from his old B-24 Liberator--but also nothing to +lose a night's sleep over. Class was tomorrow night, and life went on. +besides, who does the average citizen call to report a UFO, especially when +that UFO has already disappeared into the clouds? + +One might say then, that the UFO investigation begins at home. Ask your +parents, your husband or wife, your aunts and uncles, your cousins, your +neighbors and acquaintances. Many of these cases may only be anecdotal; others +may involve data--such as the names of other witnesses and a possible paper +trail--that can be used to fill in and corroborate the historical record, if +nothing else. + +If the witness you wish to approach is a total stranger, we suggest you do so +with kid gloves. It would help if you had some credentials--say, a few UFO +cases you have investigated in the past--to boost your credibility. Otherwise, +you should utilize what, in the vernacular of the Nineties, we call +"networking." For instance, if a friend has witnessed something unusual, and +then refers you to a second witness, the second witness, knowing your +connection to the case, may be more willing to talk. Above all, do not +approach potential witnesses, especially strangers, with theories involving +aliens and extraterrestrial ships. You will be far more likely to gain +confidence if you say, simply, "I understand the other night you witnessed +something a bit out of the ordinary. I've been collecting some information on +this and wonder if I could speak to you as well." (This will be covered in +greater detail in an upcoming chapter on interviewing witnesses.) + +UFOs in Print + +If you find it hard to get your leads from people, you may be interested to +learn that a countless variety of fascinating cases--most merely reported but +not thoroughly investigated--are described in print. Coverage of UFO sightings +by the nation's major daily newspapers tends to vary widely, depending on +whether or not UFOs are in vogue at a particular time. A much more consistent +source of UFO sighting reports is the small community daily or weekly +newspaper. So many sightings have been reported in the Gulf Breeze, Florida, +area in recent years, for example, that the local paper, The Islander (P.O. +Box 292, Gulf Breeze, Florida 32562) has been offering mail subscriptions to +investigators. + +Another excellent source of current UFO sightings in localities around the +United States is the U.F.O. News clipping Service, edited and published by +Lucius Farish, Route 1, Box 220, Plumerville, Arkansas 72127. Each 20-page +issue consists of copies of newspaper clippings submitted by Farish's far- +flung web of correspondents and clippers. It regularly includes Canadian and +English newspaper clippings, as well as articles translated from foreign-lan- +guage papers. + +Numerous annual national and regional UFO conferences also provide a rich +source of contemporary reports--and often the original witnesses themselves. +To find out about local conferences and newsletters which may alert you to +cases open for investigation in your area, you may contact: + +The Mutual UFO Network of Seguin, Texas. MUFON holds an annual symposium every +July; this year's will be in Seattle. For more information, write +international director Walter Andrus, Jr., at MUFON, 103 Oldtowne Road, +Seguin, Texas 78155-4099. For other case material, you can subscribe to the +MUFON UFO Journal. + +The J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies, 2457 West Peterson Avenue, Chicago, +Illinois 60659. The center also publishes the annual Journal of UFO Studies +and the bi-monthly International UFO Reporter. + +The nonprofit Fund for UFO Research at Box 277, Mount Rainier, Maryland 20712, +which sells copies of its reports. + +Finally, for those of you online, the Internet is a great place to learn of +UFO sightings in your area. As you traipse from one bulletin board to the +next, you will read the postings of local residents whose stories have never +been reported before. You can correspond with these witnesses through E-mail, +gathering potentially interesting data, possibly discovering a case you fell +is worth further investment of your time. + +Blast from the Past + +If you can't find a suitable case in periodical literature, at conferences, or +online, moreover, you might try digging around in the past. "Consult your +local library or the major archives," advises Jan Aldrich, a UFO researcher +recently retired from the military. "You'll probably be surprised by the +treasure throve of uninvestigated cases." + +With a grant from the Maryland-based Fund for UFOResearch, Aldrich is +presently re-examining UFO press clippings from the year 1947, popularly +perceived by the public as the year the modern UFO era began, following the +sighting by pilot Kenneth Arnold of nine silvery, crescent shaped objects near +Mount Rainier, Washington, on June 24, 1947. + +Much of Aldrich's present work replicates an earlier 1967 study done by +investigator Ted Bloecher while with the now-defunct National Investigations +Committee on Aerial Phenomena. Bloecher's "Report on the UFO Wave of 1947" +was, essentially, a collection and analysis of press clippings demonstrating +that Arnold was hardly alone in his experience. In fact, UFOs were being seen +and reported in large numbers up and down the country, form Washington to +Maine. + +But Aldrich's ongoing investigation delves even further. "Good as Bloecher's +study was," says Aldrich, "it wasn't complete. For example, he didn't include +any newspapers from Montana or from many provinces in Canada." + +By examining the Helena, Montana, Independent Record, Aldrich discovered that +a local flurry of UFO sightings was just getting underway, even as the +national flap spurred by Arnold's sighting was fading in other areas of the +country. Aldrich also discovered that UFOs continued to be reported in Canada +in great numbers. "In fact," he notes," the Canadian wave was even more +pronounced in terms of population density than what was happening in the +United States." + +From a microfilm copy of Project Blue Book files scheduled to be destroyed but +inadvertently discovered at the last minute by a university researcher, +Aldrich was able to locate another unpublished discovery: 2,000 to 3,000 +letters written by U.S. citizens in the wake of an April 1952 article about +UFOs by Bob Ginna published in Life magazine. "Blue Book was swamped at the +time," says Aldrich, "and then-director Edward Ruppelt apparently didn't care +about the letters or trying to follow them up. They were just stuffed into a +file, which, fortunately, someone put on microfilm." The majority of the +letters, says Aldrich, consist of individual theories or explanations for the +UFO phenomenon, "but about 20 percent were personal case reports, the earliest +dating back to 1913." + +Interestingly, letters addressed simply "Flying Saucers, Washington, DC," +eventually found their way into the file. In toto, the letters indicate that, +while Arnold may have gotten the headlines and generated the furor, the UFO +phenomenon itself was arguably around much earlier. It also proves that one +individual, armed with nothing more than a microfilm reader, can still make a +difference in our eventual understanding of what may well be one of this +century's most misunderstood mysteries. + +Choosing Your Case + +As a UFO investigator, you will soon find that, with the right approach and +the right reading material, you will unearth endless instances of reported +UFOs. But the truth of the matter is, not all reports are created equal. For +instance, you may want to delve into the past, but if all the witnesses to a +given sighting have died, and if there is little documentation, there may not +be much you can do. A UFO reported by your friend, a college student, while +drunk and staring at the stars, is not as compelling as a UFO reported by +three separate individuals--such as a policeman, an astronomy professor, and a +teacher--while stone sober. If the second UFO has left any physical evidence-- +from a burnt area of land to some blips on the airport's radar screen--so much +the better. + +As you hunt down UFO cases you wish to investigate, you will also find it is +better to pursue those closer to home. Indeed, a thorough UFO investigation is +time-intensive. It often requires multiple interviews with multiple witnesses. +You may need to visit the site of the report at various times of the day and +year, sometimes with specialists in tow. What's more, the input of those well +versed in local habits, history, geography, and atmospheric phenomena may be +invaluable to your research. + +For instance, a few years back, hundreds of witnesses reported a weird, +boomerang-shaped UFO over Westchester County and other parts of New York. It +later turned out that at least some of the reports were made when pilot- +hoaxers using a local airport in the town of Stormville decided to fly in +boomerang formation. Someone making a few phone calls from London could not +have learned about the hoax as easily--it at all--as the local investigators +on the scene who ultimately did. The takehome message is this: If you live in +New Jersey, it makes more sense to investigate cases in Newark or Asbury Park +than in Santa Barbara. + +Starting a File + +This chapter has given you enough material to get started. We suggest that you +empty a file drawer, get a few folders out, and start collecting. We'd like +you to spend the next few weeks just keeping your eyes and ears open. Speak to +friends and relatives. Read the local paper. Scour the Internet. Anytime +something of interest enters your field of vision, clip it, load it onto a +disk, or jot it down, and put it in your drawer. + +At the end of this period, you may have a case--a completely original case, +never before investigated by anyone--you will feel it's worthy of your time +and effort. + +Next month, in the second installment of the Omni Open Book Field +Investigator's Guide, we'll provide you with some tools of the trade, so your +own investigation may begin. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2834.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2834.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e42667f6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2834.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +SUBJECT: THE CENTURY'S BEST UFO BOOKS FILE: UFO2834 + + + + +Anyone hoping to investigate UFOs must, of course, keep track of research that +has gone before. The best sources are those classics of UFO literature that +tell the story of this controversial field, often in the words of the +researchers who know it best. + +UFO books vary widely in quality and reliability from sober, reflective +studies such as Hynek's Experience, to the self-promoting personal anecdotes +typified by the early contactee movement of the 1950s. + +Any list of the best UFO books is highly subjective. Here, however, ar 11 UFO +classics recommended for any UFO investigator seeking the right reference +tools. + +1. The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects by Edward J. Ruppelt (Doubleday, +New York, 1956). For many of today's mainstream UFOlogists, interest in the +phenomenon was probably sparked by a reading of Captain Ruppelt, who was the +acting head of the Air Force's Project Blue Book from 1951 to 1953, Widely +available in used book stores and libraries, Report was published in two +eontroversial versions. The first edition ends with Chapter 17, "What Are +UFOs?," and Ruppelt's own response, "Only time will tell." Subsequent editions +contain three additional chapters in which Ruppelt seems to recant his earlier +stance and casts doubt on the phenomenon as one of extraterrestrial origin. + +2. The UFO Controversy in America by David Michael Jacobs (Indiana University +Press, Bloomington, 1975). A temple University professor of history, Dr. +Jacobs Controversy remains one of the few purely historical treatments of the +subject as it examines how UFOs were approached by the American press, +government, and public. Jacobs' most recent book is a study of UFO abduction +cases, Secret Life (Simon & Schuster, New York, 1992). + +3. The UFO Experience by Dr. J. Allen Hynek (Henry Regnery Company, Chicago, +1972). For 22 years, until its closure in 1969, astronomer Hynek served as a +scientific consultant to Project Blue Book. Experience is a thoughtful account +of his own experiences and gradual awakening and also an examination of the +UFO phenomenon more or less in its entirety. It's here that Hynek first uses +the marquee phrase "close encounters of the third kind." + +4. Anatomy of a Phenomenon by Jacques Valle (Henry Regnery Company, Chicago, +1965). A colleague of Hynek's, Valle remains one of the field's most original +and prolific thinkers, although some of his most recent work has fallen out of +favor with the hardcore UFO crowd. In Anatomy, however, and again in Challenge +to Science: The UFO Enigma, (Henry Regnery, 1966, co-authored with wife +Janine, Vallee is in fine phenomenological form. + +5. Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying SAucers by Jacques Valle +(Henry Regnery Company, Chicago, 1969). One of the more controversial books +within UFOlogy as it posits parallels with the observed UFO phenomenon and +various past legends and lore associated with the "fairy folk" and other +nonhuman entities. Raises many questions, especially about UFO abductions, +which remain unanswered. + +6. The UFO Encyclopedia, Volumes 1 and 2, by Jerome Clark (Omnigraphics, +Detroit, 1990, 1992). Clark's impressive and massive UFO survey is more up to +date and more comprehensive than preceding UFO encyclopedias. A third volume, +High Strangeness, is expected to be available this year. + +7. Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects, edited by Daniel S. +Gilmoor(Bantam Books, New York, 1969). The complete text of the controversial +University of Colorado, Boulder, study directed by physicist Edward U. Comdon +under contract to the Air Force.Turgid and tedious in parts, but still an +indispensable reference book. + +8. Observing UFOs by Richard F. Haines (Nelsonhall, Chicago, 1980). A former +perceptual psychologist with NASA's Ames Research Center, Haines focuses here +on perception, particularly the peculiarities of our visual field and sense of +time, as related to the observation of anomalous aerial phenomena. + +9. Project Blue Book, edited by Brad Steiger (Ballantine Books, New York, +1976). A wildly miscellaneous grab-bag of odds and ends drawn mostly from +official (and declassified) Air Force Project Blue Book files, including a +list of those cases classified "unknown." Contains much original source +material found nowhere else. + +10. The Interrupted Journey by John G. Fuller (Dell, New York, 19870> The book +that first introduced the UFO abduction phenomenon to the public, this volume, +first published in 1966, examines the case of Betty and Barney Hill, who +experienced a UFO close encounter which resulted in nearly two hours of +alleged missing time. + +11. Missing Time by Budd Hopkins (Richard Marek Publishers, New York, 1981). +Hopkins is an abstract artist widely recognized as the leading proponent of +the genetic engineering theory of UFO abductions. A pioneer in UFO abduction +research, he gives his theories in this controversial volume. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2835.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2835.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a30da65b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2835.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,400 @@ +SUBJECT: CRASH AT EL INDIO FILE: UFO2835 + + + +ARTICLE BY DENNIS STACY for OMNI + + +DID AN ALIEN CRAFT ATTEMPT TO LAND IN MEXICO? + + + +Investigator: Dennis Stacy, journalist and editor of the MUFON UFO Journal, +who has made three separate visits to Mexico in pursuit of this case during +the past four years, most recently in September 1994. (Stacy's +investigative aides include Tom Deuley, Formerly assigned to the National +Security Agency and the administrative assistant to the Mutual UFO Network of +Seguin, Texas, who accompanied Stacy on each of the three trips; Elia +Maldonado of Guerrero, who served as translator; and Enrique Ceverra, former +mayor of Guerrero.) + +Cental Event: The alleged crash and subsequent recovery of a UFO by a top- +secret joint Mexican American military operation + +Time: December 6, 1950 + +Place: Along the Texas Mexico border near the towns of El Indo, Texas, and +Guerrero, Mexico + +Ramifications: Aside from its own innate significance, the El Indo-Guerrero +crash, it verified, would lend credence to those claiming an extraterrestrial +or otherwise unconventional explanation for the famous Roswell crash, which +occurred in New Mexico sometime in late June or early July 1947. It would also +bolster the case for the much maligned MJ-12 documents, said to prove that +government experts have been hot in pursuit of UFOs since the 1950s; most UFO +researchers now regard these documents as a clever hoax or ingenious exercise +in disinformation, with possible ties to the Air Force Office of Special +Intelligence, Kirtland Air Force Base, Albuquerque. + +Deep Background/The Roswell Connection: Something crashed to the earth near +Roswel, New Mexico, in the summer of 1947. The Army Air Force admitted as much +in the form of a press release which first appeared in local newspapers on +Tuesday July 8, 1947, and was widely reprinted around the world. "The many +rumors regarding the flying discs became a reality yesterday." said the +report, authorized by base commander Colonel William H. Blanchard, "when the +intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell +Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc through the +cooperation of one of the local rancher and the sheriff's office of Chaves +County." + +Later that same afternoon, however, Eighth Air Force commander Brigadier +General Roger Ramey called a press conference at Carswell Field, Fort Worth, +Texas, to announce that what was really recovered was an ordinary weather +balloon. During the intervening years, many UFO advocates pushed an +extraterrestrial interpretation of the crash. And finally, on September 8, +1994 in response to a General Accounting Office inquiry into Roswell launched +by New Mexico Republican Congressman Steve Schiff, the Air Force attributed +the original Roswell object to Project Mogul, a top-secret balloon project it +said was designed to monitor Soviet nuclear bomb tests. + +As we pursue the truth behind the El Indo story, our questions are straight +forward. What, if anything, did happen on December 6, 1950, and how, if at +all, was this possible event related to the crash at Roswell. Whatever the +origin of the Roswell crash, is the incident reported at El Indio in some way +related? + +Deep Background/The MJ-12 Connection: The suggestion that a second UFO might +have crashed and been retrieved by the same recovery team employed at Roswell +first arrived anonymously in the mail at the home of Hollywood producer Jaime +Shandera in December 1984. Postmarked Albuquerque, the package contained a +single roll of undeveloped 35mm black and white film. When developed, the film +revealed eight pages of what purported to be a top-secret report. Dated +November 18, 1952, the report itself claimed to be a UFO briefing paper +prepared by the outgoing Truman administration for the recently elected Dwight +David Eisenhower. It described the creation of the Majestic-12 group, composed +of 12 highlevel military and intelligence officials, along with civilian +scientists, to oversee the investigation and analysis of the UFO phenomenon, +and it even referred to the Roswell crash by name. What's more, the report +referred to El Indio: "On 06 December 1950, a second object, probably of +similar origin, impacted the earth at high speed in the El Indio Guerrero area +of the Texas Mexico border after following a long trajectory through the +atmosphere," the papers proclaimed. "By the time a search team arrived, what +remained of the object had been almost totally incinerated. Such material as +could be recovered was transported to the AEC (Atomic Energy Commission) +facility at Sandia, New Mexico, for further study." + +The Air Force, along with most UFO researchers, has denounced the so-called +MJ-12 papers as a hoax or a scam. + +But bogus or not, we felt the reference to a crash along the Rio Grande +between Texas and Mexico was worth looking into. Obviously, if the incident +could be confirmed, then at least some of the content, if not the whole, of +the MJ-12 document would be verified. Such verification would tend to support +those claiming an extraterrestrial or unconventional explanation for Roswell, +as well as charges, long made by some UFOlogists, of an ongoing government UFO +cover-up. + +By the same token, if the El Indio-Guerrero crash could be disproved, it would +support the Air Force claim that the documents are indeed bogus and that the +Roswell crash was just a weather balloon or something equally mundane. + +Either way, investigating the El Indio report could help shed light on the +anonymous author of any Majestic hoax. Who, after all, had even heard of El +Indio (population less than 100) and Guerrero in any context? The former is so +small that it isn't marked on most Texas highway maps. + +Early Evidence for a Crash at El Indio: Shortly after the MJ-12 papers were +first made public in 1987, Tom Deuley began a review of the case. One +tantalizing clue came from nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman, author of Crash +at Corona, a book about Roswell. Friedman, virtually alone in the UFO +community in his support of the MJ-12 papers, wielded the Freedom of +Information Act to procure a previously classified communique from a field +agent named Auerbach (first name not given) in Richmond, Virginia, to FBI +director J. Edgar Hoover, dated December 3, 1950. + +According to Auerbach, of the Counter Intelligence Corps, his office had been +asked to stay attuned to "any data on flying saucers." Any information, the +memo added, would be telephoned, immediately, to Air force Intelligence. +Although the date was theoretically "wrong" for El Indio--December 3 instead +of 6--the coincidence, if that's what it was, was intriguing. + +The second piece of evidence was another declassified document found in the +National Archives by Don Berliner, a board member of the Maryland-based Fund +for UFO Research and co-author of the Corona book with Friedman. Previously +stamped "Confidential," this six-paragraph memorandum for the Secretary of +Defense from Colonel Charles B. winkle, assistant executive, directorate of +plans, announced an air alert effective as of 1030 hours. According to Winkle, +"The ConAC Air Defense Controller notified the Headquarters USAF Command Post +that at 1030 hours a number of unidentified aircraft were approaching the +northeast area of the United States and that there was no reason to believe +the aircraft were friendly." By 1040 hours, 40 aircraft at an altitude of +32,000 feet were confirmed by radar in the vicinity of Limestone, Maine. +Winkle added that President Truman had been notified and interceptors +scrambled. By 1104 hours, the situation was apparently defused. Winkle noted +that "the original track had faded out, and it appears that the flight as +originally identified is a friendly flight." The date was 6 December 1950. + +Truman even mentioned the incident in his memoirs, not published until 1979. +At the time, he noted in his diary, "It looks like World War III is here. I +hope not--but we must meet whatever comes--and we will." Truman, however, +attributed the radar returns and subsequent High Alert to an atmospheric +disturbance. + +Friedman found yet a third account of the incident in The Wise Men by +historians Walter Isaacson and Evan Thomas (Simon & Schuster, 1986). An +assessment of the role played by cold war warriors like then Secretary of +State Dean Acheson and others, the book noted that on the same day--again, +December 6, 1950--Acheson was informed that "a national emergency was about to +be declared" because "there is flying over Alaska at the present moment a +formation of Russian planes heading southeast." The British ambassador to the +United States, Clement Attlee, was visiting at the time, and Acheson was +instructed to notify him to "take whatever measures are proper for his +safety." In the Isaacson and Thomas version, the threat evaporated when the +incoming UFOs were reportedly identified as flocks of geese. + +Despite the discrepancies--unidentified flying objects over Maine in one case, +Alaska in the other--it is clear that the Air Force and government went into +overdrive on December 6, 1950, the precise date given in the purportedly +spurious MJ-12 papers for a flaming UFO crash in the vicinity of El Indio and +Guerrero "after following a long trajectory through the atmosphere." As it +turns out, whether tracked through Alaska or Maine, the El Indio crash does +represent a long trajectory, indeed. Moreover, the top-secret documents +suggest an anonymous MJ-12 hoaxer may have hit upon this particular day in +history not by sheer serendipity, but rather by inside access to previously +classified government reports. + +But why had MJ-12 placed the crash near El Indio in the first place? What, if +anything, did the author of the MJ-12 papers know or suspect that we did not? +As we pondered the papers, both real and bogus, we realized our options had +narrowed considerably. To learn more, we would have to travel to El Indio and +Guerrero in person. + +First On-Site Investigation (March 1990): El Indio over looks the Rio Grande +separating Texas from Mexico, and lies some 160 miles southwest of San +Antonio. The itinerary for our first visit, conducted in March 1990, was not +overly ambitious. Mainly, Tom Deuley and I intended to scope out the lay of +the land, interview a few longtime residents who may have had knowledge of +nearly half-century-old events, and establish contacts for a more thorough +follow-up investigation later on. If we mastered the intricacies of crossing +international borders and actually contacting possible eyewitnesses in Mexico, +so much the better. + +We were both disappointed and encouraged by our initial foray into crashed +saucer terrain. Through contacts in San Antonio, we acquired the names of Jack +and Quixie Keisling, prominent local farmers who had lived in El Indio-since +1939, a year after its establishment. Although they welcomed us into their +home with typical Southern hospitality, they couldn't remember any significant +event in the late 1949-early 1950 time frame that might have been associated +with anything remotely resembling a flying saucer or crash. + +"There was still a pilot training base in Eagle Pass after the end of the +war," Jack volunteered, "and I could tell you some stories about that. The +pilots used to love to buzz our pick-ups on the highway." + +We also talked to the El Indio postmaster, Estelle Courtney, who had lived +there since 1947, but she, too, was unable to shed any light on an alleged +UFO, plane, or meteorite crash. Unfortunately, the widow of the town's +original founder had died two weeks before we arrived. + +We spent the night in Eagle Pass, 18 miles upriver, and crossed over into +Mexico at Piedras Negras the next morning. Like El Indio, Guerrero (population +2,000), some 35 miles back down the river and south of its sister city, had +seen better days. Knowing my high school Spanish would confuse, rather than +clarify, any interviews we might be able to conduct, we sought a translator. +We were fortunate enough to secure the services of Elia Maldonado, who had +just moved back to Guerrero from Green River. Wyoming, and would prove +invaluable on our first visit as well as those to come. Maldonado was able to +put us in touch with former mayor Enrique Ceverra, who in turn directed us to +Rosendo Flores, a retired school teacher (now deceased) and, according to +Ceverra, the town's acknowledged historian. "If anyone knows anything about +such an incident, it will be him," Ceverra assured us. + +Straight of spine if slow in step, Senor Flores invited us in his home two +blocks off Guerrero's zocalo or main square, a welcome respite from the +already beating sun. Underneath a full head of gray hair, sparkling dark eyes +peered at us through thick glasses. Seated in a simple wooden chair in his +living room, Flores answered our questions promptly and to the point. Not only +did he remember such an incident, he had actually witnessed it. Shortly after +siesta, he had been working on his family's land north of town, toward the +river and El Indio, when "a ball of fire fell from the sky," crashing on the +adjoining ranch and igniting a grass fire. A day or two later, a military +contingent arrived from Piedras Negras, blocked off the area, and "hauled +something away by truck." We asked him if American soldiers, norteamericanos, +might have been involved, but Flores said he couldn't be certain. What about +the object or objects hauled away: Could it have been as mundane as airplane +wreckage? "We never knew," Flores answered. "No one told us anything." When we +asked how he could be sure of the date, Flores simply said that "it was common +knowledge, everyone knew about it." The old gentleman even gave us the name of +the landowners and the location where the "fireball" had impacted--El Rancho +del Griegos (the Ranch of the Greeks). BEfore leaving, we asked if anyone had +ever visited him previously about this incident. His reply was adamant and +economical. "No, never. You are the first." + +Buoyed by Flores' account, we sought out the people named but none was home. +We spent the remainder of the day driving backroads bordering the ranch-- +Deuley's hand written notes at the time refer to them as "stone washboards"-- +in search of other potential eyewitnesses, only to learn that many had long +since died or moved away. + +Indeed, as we delved deeper, we were unable to turn up any additional +eyewitnesses to corroborate Flores' account. If a flying disc had crashed near +Guerrero on December 6, 1950, it certainly hadn't insinuated itself into the +local memory in the way flores had suggested. + +Still, we felt the case was worth a second visit: We had by no means +interviewed everyone who might have remembered the incident, and we had not +yet seen the alleged crash site. Maldonado and Ceverra agreed to assist us +further by continuing to ask questions locally and trying to arrange access to +the Ranch of the Greeks. + +Second Journey Out (November 1990): In the first week of November 1990, we +returned to Mexico, having decided to concentrate our investigation in the +Guerrero area. Ceverra learned that the original ranch had since been +subdivided and sold, but he had contacted the new owners, who wish to remain +anonymous, and obtained permission to search their property. He had also +contacted two individuals who, while they had no knowledge of any fireball or +other crash in the area, did know of a "mystery hole" on the ranch that had +appeared sometime in the late 1940s or early 1950s as portions of the land +were first cleared of Mesquite and scrub brush for cultivation. At one point +the hole had been large enough to trap a tractor, which had to be winched out. +We chose to return in November, after the field had been harvested, +facilitating our search. + +In the meantime, Ceverra also contacted two of the four children whose parents +had owned the land in December 1950. Both were of little help, alas, since +they'd been younger than 10 at the time. + +After we arrived in Guerrero, Ceverra arranged a guide, a young man with his +leg in a cast who worked the ranch and would be able to lead us to the e hole +in the field. As with everyone else we talked to on this occasion, he had no +idea how the hole had appeared, only that it had been there as long as he +could remember, its only direct connection to the alleged crash, then, as best +we could determine, was that it lay in the same immediate vicinity where +Flores had told us the fireball had come down more than 40 years before. + +An afternoon spent searching the field proved hot, fruitless work. Unable to +walk because of his injury, our guide could only give us general directions. +And while the last crop had been cleared, the soft, loamy soil had quickly +sprung up in weeds and grasses. Coupled with the flatness of the terrain, this +meant that one part of the large field looked pretty much like another. As the +day wore on, however, word leaked out that we were looking for a "UFO hole," +and we soon drew a crowd of curious locals, all of whom were perfectly willing +to help out. At one stage, we had some 15 people in the field, separated by +outstretched arms, walking up and down the weed-grown rows, all for naught +except a video of the event taken by our photographer, Steve Lewis. + +It's no wonder that both Deuley and I were feeling a little foolish. In fact, +with sweat pooling in my armpits, I couldn't help but hum the words of an old +Grateful Dead song: "What a long, strange trip it's been!" We had started out +with a single reference to a crashed flying saucer in what in all likelihood +was a bogus "government" document, we had located but a single eyewitness to +an event of ultimately unknown nature, and yet here we were, stirring up dust +in a field on the south bank of the Rio Grande, looking for a mystery hole of +equally unknown origin, and with no incontrovertible evidence that the two +events were connected by anything other than coincidence. + +We thanked Maldonado and Ceverra for their gracious assistance, but advised we +probably wouldn't return unless there were any new dramatic developments on +either side of the border. Back in San Antonio, we continued to accumulate +data in hopes some of it might prove relevant. The MJ-12 documents aside, we +continued to hear rumor of some UFO crash along the Texas-Mexico border during +our targeted time frame. Unfortunately, these waters were muddied by known +hoaxes, including the so-called "Tomato Man" case involving photographs of an +alleged fried "alien" inside burned-out "spaceship" said to have crashed near +Rio Sabinas, Mexico, on July 7, 1948, some 130 miles south of Guerrero. The +photos were later demonstrated to be of a human accident victim, the head +having swollen and bubbled from the intense heat so as to resemble a giant, +mutant tomato. Another unsubstantiated story in circulation had a UFO crashing +in 1950, but 30 miles northwest of Del Rio on the Rio Grande, a good 100 miles +north of Guerrero. We were still intrigued by the prospect, however remote, +that all such stories had some common root, perhaps indicative of a real +event, mundane or otherwise. + +Another Long Strange Trip (September 1994): Last year, at the behest of +Project Open Book, we undertook a third trip to Guerrero with the intention of +laying the case to rest one way or the other: as a legitimate UFO incident, an +example of runaway folklore, or some other as-yet-unidentified third category. +This time we were accompanied by two other UFOlogists who had recently taken +an interest in the case: Hal Landrum, an Eagle Pass attorney, and John Yates +fo Fort Worth, a salesman for The Psychological Corporation. Landrum had +earlier visited Guerrero on his own, and as for Yates, he brought his metal +detector. We informed Maldonado of our impending arrival. She, inturn, told +Ceverra, who by now had located a former ranch foreman. Jose Garcia, who said +he could take us straight to the mystery hole. + +It took awhile, but Garcia ultimately delivered a shallow depression in the +same field we had searched in November 1990. Hairline cracks in the soil +around the small circular depression indicated an original diameter of some 20 +feet. Yet a search with the metal detector revealed nothing, not even the +usual beer bottle caps and soft drink pull-tabs one normally encounters in +such situations. While we hadn't expected a perfectly preserved crater with +still-smoking rim and flying saucer parts strewn about, we had hoped to be +able to tie the hole to a particular place in time. Like others we had +interviewed, Garcia could add nothing in this regard. + +Our own assessment of the situation was that we were looking at a natural +sink-hole phenomenon, probably attributable to the porous limestone underlying +the Rio Grande deposited silt on which we stood. As we left, in fact, we +encountered several active wash-outs alongside the dirt road encircling the +field, one of which could have swallowed a compact car easily. + +Moreover, after interviewing more than 40 additional people on both sides of +the border, we were unable to directly connect the hole in the field with the +fireball described by Flores. Nor were we able to identify any additional +witnesses to the fall of the fireball itself. + +Tom Deuley may have put it best when he said, "I think we've triggered some +sort of investigator effect. We ride into town and start asking questions +about unusual events, and the people do their best to help out. We ask about +UFOs and crash sites, and without necessarily making up anything, they show us +the best they have. But every community probably has something 'strange' in +its history. It doesn't necessarily mean that a UFO crashed nearby." + +Ultimately, another avenue of investigation bore fruit. While researching the +history of the area in general, we were directed to two retired historians now +living in Fort Clark Springs, Texas. Neither had encountered UFO stories in +their years spent up and down the Rio Grande, but one of them, Ben Pingenot, +did remember that a plane crash had taken place in the area. The source he +gave Landrum was Wings Over the Mexican Border: Pioneer Military Aviation in +the Big Bend, by Kenneth Baxter Ragsdale, University of Texas Press, 1984. + +On January 16, 1944, according to Ragsdale, a Civil Air Patrol Stinson spotter +plane had crashed seven miles from Guerrero, killing Lieutenants Harry Hewitt +and Bayard Henderson. Aside from a brief mention in the Laredo Times, the +incident was promptly hushed up for reasons that can only now be guessed. The +international nature of the accident was probably one factor. Another, +stronger reason for a cover-up is the suggestion that the Stinson was the +victim of friendly fire--"a gunnery school accident"--from what Ragsdale was +able to learn. And, indeed, a restricted gunnery range zone is still marked on +aeronautical maps of the area, stretching southeastward along the American +side of the border from El Indio. + +Some sort of joint Mexican-American military cooperation would almost +assuredly have been involved in the recovery of the bodies and any surviving +wreckage, arguably triggering the inevitable bureaucratic tendency toward +secrecy. Hewitt's widow was unable to obtain a cause of death from the +authorities and was only granted survivors benefits after the Oregon +legislature introduced a bill to that effect in Congress. + +As for the ultimate cause of the crash, Ragsdale concluded, "the facts will +probably never be known. The military keeps its secrets well." + +Conclusions: Sadly, we may never know beyond reasonable doubt whether or not +an extraterrestrial object slammed to earth near Guerrero in December 1950. We +do know, though, that an indisputably real terrestrial object impacted within +seven miles of the very same Mexican town in January 1944. Could this have +been the event, witnessed by a much-younger Rosendo Flores, before his memory +of specific dates became blurred by the passage of time? If so, it's +conceivable, depending on who was talked to and how the questions were +phrased, that the crash of the Civil Air Patrol plane and its military +retrieval could have given rise to all sorts of UFO rumors along the Rio +Grande. In the end it's impossible to prove a negative--that a UFO didn't +crash near Guerrero, Mexico, in December 1950. One might just as well search +for the proverbial needle in the haystack--or a hole in the ground. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** + diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2836.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2836.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6e54d5d7 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2836.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +SUBJECT: FIREFIGHTERS BRIEFED ON UFOs FILE: UFO2836 + + +BY A.J.S.RAYL for Omni + + +It only makes sense that civilian emergency personnel from police to +firefighters may be called to the scene of a close encounter, real or not. +But despite their role on the front lines of virtually any emergency, our +country's "first responders" have never been given any kind of background on +the UFO phenomenon, until now. + +For a detailed briefing on the topic, all professional rescuers need do is +refer to the new, second edition of the Fire Officer's Guide to Disaster +Control (Fire Engineering Books and Videos). Used by the Federal Emergency +Management Agency (FEMA) in its National Fire Training Academy Open Learning +Program, the book covers, in addition to more traditional fire fare, the ABCs +of UFOs: In practical language, the manual examines potential problems like +disruption of transportation and communication, possible psychological and +physical impacts, and speculation about government secrecy. To fire up +imaginations, the manual also presents a hypothetical alien encounter. + +This radical primer was the brainstorm of the late Charles W. Bahme, a former +Los Angeles Fire Department deputy chief, who researched UFOs for years. +According to Bahme, his interest was ignited August 26, 1942 during the famous +"L.A. Air Raid." As sirens and news bulletins announced an enemy invasion, +Bahme, then a young Navy fireman, watched some 20 objects zoom and zigzag +overhead. "They changed course at incredible speeds while gun crews along the +coastline pumped more than 1,400 rounds at them," he said. Two hours later, +all was quiet on the Western front. "Rumors that they were extraterrestrial +craft, that one was shot down, were never confirmed," he said. "The official +explanation--weather balloons--was never taken seriously." + +After serving as security coordinator for the Chief of Naval Operations, Bahme +went on to write the original Handbook of Disaster control in 1952, and the +first Fire Officer's Guide to Disaster Control in 1978. Finally, in 1993, he +teamed up with William M. Kramer, a district chief with the Cincinnati Fire +Department, to write the current manual. + +So, if confronted with something alien, what's a firefighter to do? +Considering the federal law (14 CFR, Ch. V, Part 1211) giving NASA arbitrary +discretion "to quarantine under armed guard any object, person, or other form +of life extraterrestrially exposed," the primer suggests it would be +"inadvisable to make personal contact" unless one is willing to submit to +quarantine should the law be invoked. + +That notwithstanding, the manual advises, "In the absence of overt acts +indicating hostility, there may be no danger in approaching a UFO with a +positive, solicitous attitude of wanting to be of service," which may be +"telepathically sensed by those aboard." But, "Any display of weapons could be +construed as unfriendly." + +The quids UFO section is primarily informational, says Kramer, "intended to +get fire officers thinking. Nearly everyone has told me they were impressed +that a mysterious subject was taken out of the closet, and many believe we +are, somehow, eventually going to make contact with other forms of +intelligent life." + +In general, the UFO community approves. "While a few of the sources aren't the +best," says Mark Rodeghier, scientific director of the Center for UFOStudies +in Chicago, "nobody else has even tried to devise a plan for public officials +before." + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2837.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2837.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..67921cb8 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2837.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +SUBJECT: CAN THIS MARRIAGE BE SAVED?/UFOs & ABDUCTEES FILE: UFO2837 + + +BY ANITA BASKIN for OMNI + + +"Can This Marriage Be Saved?" is a popular advice column from the editors of +the Ladies Home Journal. Typical topics: drug addiction, alcoholism, and money +squabbles. But the editors shouldn't be surprised if they start receiving mail +from the spouses of UFO abductees, because alien abductions are testing the +ties that bind. + +"A husband whose wife has been abducted may feel angry," says Budd Hopkins, +the author of two books on UFOs. "He may think, I can't protect my wife." Adds +Hopkins, "Wives also feel angry and unloved." + +Take Deb Hill, who works with her husband in their product-testing laboratory. +Deb's angst stems from her inability to help her husband during abductions +which, in his case, can occur as often as three times a month. "I'm especially +upset by the sexual activity, resulting in hybrid offspring," she says. "What +the aliens do to John is tantamount to rape." + +To deal with such feelings, Deb recently attended an abductee support group +run by Temple University historian and UFO author David Jacobs. "I needed to +hear from other abductees that sex with aliens is very mechanical," she +explains. + +Animosity, even Jealousy, are in fact common responses to a spouse's +abduction, according to Dr. Bill Cone, a California psychologist who has +treated numerous abductees. "Some people get very hostile, and I've seen +several abductee couples divorce." + +As a result of al this marital tension, UFO researchers find themselves +playing marriage counselor to abductees. "I advise people to be careful with +whom they speak about their abductions," says Budd Hopkins, "because going +public can exacerbate an already bad situation. Often, a spouse will be +tolerated if this doesn't get out to the neighbors." + +But even those who couldn't care less what the neighbors think find that +problems abound. Steve and Linda don't care what the neighbors think, but +they're still having problems. "My marriage is not on the rocks, but it's not +what it used to be," says Linda, who has received extensive national publicity +about her alleged ET encounters. "Steve was more affectionate before the +abductions started." + +"She doesn't pay as much attention to me as she used to," counters husband +Steve. "I fell that all the media attention has taken my wife away from me." + +Often, when a marriage has been teetering under the weight of other problems, +abduction does it in. "Our marriage was in trouble to begin with," admits 42- +year-old Jeff. "But my wife used my abductions as one excuse to leave me." +Jeff's ex-wife is also using his abductions against him in the pending custody +case for their five-year-old son. "We had to take psychological evaluations," +says Jeff. "My tests showed me to be normal, so my abductions were the only +things her lawyer could find to put me in a bad light. She almost didn't have +a child with me in the first place," he adds, "because she was afraid the +child might be abducted." + +Some marriages have actually been strengthened by abduction. Deb Hill says she +now "feels good that my husband trusts me enough to share these experiences +with me. That helps us turn this into something positive." + +Still, Dr. Cone believes that while many abductees are psychologically well- +adjusted, "some of these people are actually suffering from identity disorders +and have difficulty telling reality from fantasy and dreams. Even if they +hadn't gone through the abduction experience, it is possible that they would +be having trouble in their marriages today." + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2838.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2838.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9a1810ac --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2838.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,237 @@ +SUBJECT: ANATOMY OF AN ABDUCTION FILE:UFO2838 + + + +BY A. J. S. RAYL for Omni + + +SUMMARY: By 1990 Leath Haley had begun recalling unsetting dreams of visits +aboard spacecraft with aliens; the images were at first so "strange" and so +"real" she sought professional help. Her therapist, Springfield, Missouri, +social worker John Carpenter, known for his work with UFO abductees, says +Haley's case is special. "The details were amazingly specific and corroborated +unpublished detail from the best case data we have so far." What's more, he +points out, Haley's story had a spin: Her "recollections" apparently involved +the United States military, which she claimed harassed her so she wouldn't go +public with her tale. + +After undergoing hypnosis, Haley has come to believe her abduction dreams were +real. She eventually went public in 1993 with a self-published book, Lost Was +the Key, after legally changing her name to Leah A. Haley "to protect my +family and children." + +Inventory of Claims + +Memories from the Deep. In 1960 Haley, then nine years old, and her brother, +then seven, saw what they thought was a spacecraft landing in the woods near +their home in Gardendale, Alabama. "I saw three objects, two of which quickly +darted away," she explains. "The third was silver, completely spherical in +shape, and it sat still for a long time in the sky." + +Decades later, in July 1990, Haley visited with her mother and brother in +Alabama, and during a conversation about extraterrestrials sparked by a +newspaper article, Haley recounted a "strange, very real dream. I was in a +spaceship, in a round room, lying on a platform with small chalky white +creatures with big black eyes doing some kind of medical things to me," she +recalls. + +After the dreams increased, she contacted John Carpenter in hopes of finding +some mental illness or disorder to explain what was going on. Instead, during +15 sessions of hypnotic regression, she recalled countless specific +abductions starting at age 3. She even conjured an undersea alien facility, +complete with alien craft and a captive soldier, held against his will. + +Military Intervention. During hypnosis and in flashbacks, Haley also recalled +her abduction by military personnel. For instance, she told of an alien craft +that she believes crashed near a beach while she was aboard, after which +military personnel escorted her away. Comments Carpenter, "That episode +unraveled as vividly as any I've heard." + +Since September 1990, Haley claims, she has been "followed by military types +in navy blue of white cars," and occasionally by black unmarked helicopters. +She also claims she has been monitored via her telephone and in person, +because, she now speculates, "I was on that alien craft when it crashed and +the military wanted to glean information and make me shut up." + +In April 1991, Haley charges, military harassment made its most insidious +appearance at the Columbus Air Force Base in the form of Major (then Captain) +Tracy Poole, whose wife was in Haley's accounting class. Haley says Poole +extended "an unusually persistent invitation" to view space shuttle Endeavour +during its stopover at the base. Armed guards surrounding the shuttle and +signs posted around the spacecraft warning that "Deadly force is authorized," +Haley notes, explain why she considered the invitation "a possible setup to +interrogate or kill me." + +Technology Gone Awry. Haley also reports loosened locks and window screens, +disturbances in the phone line, and the spontaneous disarming of her security +system, not to mention strange sounds throughout her house, leading her to +believe someone or something was inside. + +Weird Body Marks. Haley has found "more than one hundred strange marks" on +different parts of her body, including injection marks, scoop marks, and red, +circular vaccinationlike marks, apparently made with three separate prongs. +She also reports other physical anomalies, such as "Morse Code-type beeps" in +her ears, intense back spasms, voices and imagery, and frequent soreness in +her ovaries. On numerous occasions, she says, "I have felt dazed, unable to +concentrate or focus." + +Sane Psychometric Profile. Halely visited Florence, Alabama, psychiatrist +Thomas G. Shafer three times in 1992. Shafer, who has no connection to the UFO +field, concluded that there was "no evidence of organic psychoses such as +schizophrenia, organic brain syndrome, or bipolar illness." In a letter to her +and released to Omni, he wrote: "It is my opinion that you suffered some sort +of extremely traumatic experience in the woods that day long ago as a child. +Your descriptions of being naked, lying powerless, having your body explored +suggest very strongly to me that the actual experience was a sexual +molestation. It is my professional opinion," he concluded, "that you suffer +from delayed Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) due to childhood +experiences, complicated by a paranoid state caused by the hypnosis sessions, +and I've recommended you undergo treatment by a licensed M.D. or Ph.D. +certified in hypnotherapy to help you resolve these issues." + +In the fall of 1992, Haley also completed a Fantasy Prone Test given to +numerous abductees by the Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS). According to +Carpenter: "It revealed that she was less likely than the normal person to be +fantasy prone. She fell in the frank, down-to-earth, conservative range." + +The Investigation + +Memory Lane. Like most abductees, Haley has recalled her alien encounters +primarily through hypnotic regression. "Haley deliberately did not read +anything and did not want to be an abductee or involved in any of this," says +her hypnotist, John Carpenter, who has to date regressed 90 other abductees. +"Under hypnosis, she had the classic response to all this; it brought tears." + +Haley's brother, who is a law enforcement officer with the state of Alabama +and, as such, requested anonymity, was present at the first two hypnosis +session. "Carpenter did not ask leading questions; rather he tried to lead +her away from anything having to do with aliens," he says. After the sessions, +he says, "she was in disbelief, denial, shock, but there was no doubt in my +mind that she was deeply affected by what she was remembering." + +All this, say critics, does not prove Haley's recollection to be real. Robert +A. Baker, psychology professor emeritus at the University of Kentucky, who has +studied psychological anomalies, says, "These 'encounters' are really +hypnagogic images, essentially waking hallucinations or dreams, and nothing +more." Adds Baker, researchers like Carpenter may be putting aliens in +people's heads. + +"Baker has not looked at my work or my methods," responds Carpenter. "My +trademark is deliberately suggesting logical responses to the point of +misleading these abductees. These abductees come from all walks of life and +economic status, and yet they all tell the same story about the same little +guys. It doesn't make sense that these are all falsely created from the +individual imaginations." + +But Ronald K. Siegel, associate research professor of psychiatry and +biobehavioral sciences at UCLA and author of Whispers: The Voices of Paranoia +(Crown), does not agree. "Those details don't point to anything more than a +common mental experience, not unlike parasitosis, the belief you're being +infested by parasites," Siegel says. "Medical history documents that people +who suffer from parasitosis reported the same parsites and drew the same +drawings, with the same details. Given an infinite variety of stimulations, +the brain responds in a finite number of ways." + +"Theoretically, Haley could be experiencing and altered state of +consciousness--caused by anything from a food allergy to a physical problem +in the brain--and having these fantastic experiences in which she has +seemingly real feelings and images associated with being abducted by aliens, +and which can even include physical manifestations," adds psychologist Keith +Harary, research director of the Institute for Advanced Psychology in San +Francisco. + +Military Coup? Acting as tour guide, Haley drove Omni around the Columbus Air +Force Base looking for a onestory building where she believes she was taken +and interrogated. No building, however, seemed familiar. Haley also gave Omni +the name of a disgruntled civilian employee at Columbus she said might know +about the UFOs. When Omni tracked this man down, however, he said, "I just +don't have the kind of security clearance to know about these things." + +As for Major Poole, he has confirmed that he did give his wife, a student in +Haley's accounting class, a space shuttle Endeavour pass to give to Haley and +did invite her to view the shuttle on its stopover at the base. "But it wasn't +a personal invitation," he says. "We have standard roped-off areas, where the +public can stand and take pictures, and that's what I invited her to do. On +the night in question, I did go to the classroom, but it was to wave to my +wife." + +Official Denial. Have UFOs ever been tracked over Columbus Air Force Base? +According to Sergeant Debbie O'Leary, Columbus AFB Public Affairs: "No, there +have been no UFOs tracked here, and we have not interrogated here any people +who claim to have had an alien encounter." + +Tammy McBride at the POW/MIA office at the Pentagon, meanwhile, conducted a +search for one Larry Mitchell, a name that appeared on a soldier's uniform in +the underground alien facility Haley described under hypnosis. McBride found +three Larrys and one Lawrence all with the last name of Mitchell. All four +were killed in action in Vietnam. All bodies have been recovered. + +Vehicular Interference. Tony Scarborough, physics professor at Delta State +University in Cleveland, Mississippi, and state director for the Mutual UFO +Network (MUFON), confirmed that "a graphite-black helicopter came over a +building where Haley was speaking and scared the students to death" in the +summer of 1991. "A year later, s similar helicopter came over my house, then +flew at about 500 feet, traveling parallel to me on my way to meet her at +Delta State University," he adds, "but the connection between these +helicopters and Leah Haley is, of course, speculative." + +As for Air Force cars following her, Poole says, "We have cars running up and +down Highway 45 all the time." + +HomeBodies. John Beard, who heads up Golden Traingle Security Alliance in +Columbus, the company that installed Haley's home security system, confirmed +that Haley has experienced an inordinate amount of trouble. "This particular +system had an inherent engineering and design flaw, which the manufacturer has +admitted. Consequently, we no longer sell it, and we have had to go out and +change components on most of the systems we installed. There are at least 20 +other customers who have had the same problems." + +Haley's former housekeeper, Eunice Eggleston, however, insists there were +strange things happening inside the house. "One day I was upstairs cleaning, +and I heard chords clearly on the piano. I was sure the house was all locked +up, and I was the only one there. In addition, the answering machine would +start without the phone ringing, and the air vent once dropped on the floor." + +But these events, says psychologist Harary, who has studied the psychology of +coincidence, don't add up to much. "A string of seemingly inexplicable events +that occur around the same time are not necessarily related," he says. "You +would have to thoroughly investigate each and every one. Sure, there could +have been someone physically in the house; unfortunately, no one was seen, and +it's almost impossible to get to the bottom of what was happening after the +fact." + +Body Scoops. The plethora of unusual marks on Haley's body would seem to be +significant physical evidence; however, everyone agrees that without a +thorough examination of her environment and sleep patterns, they mean little +in the end. + +"Strange marks appearing overnight is just not that unusual, and without +observing Haley close up during the times these tings occur, you cannot draw +any kind of valid conclusion about what's going on," says Harary. "We would +have to rule out all conventional explanations, including, for example, the +possibility that she could be doing these things it herself in an altered, or +even an ordinary, state of consciousness." + +Get Out the Ink Blots. While Shafer stands by his evaluation of Haley, +psychologist Siegel insists Haley may test out as sane because "there's an +internal reality that everyone shares." Abduction imagery is a manifestation +of the limbic system, not outright insanity, Siegel says. "Haley is truly an +abductee, but the aliens are not out there--they're in her own brain. The +scary thing is, we all have the same details in our nervous system; anybody can +become an abductee." + +Conclusion: + +Despite the fact that some UFO researchers have called the Haley case one of +the most intriguing and apparently best-documented abductions ever, without +more data it's impossible to know what Haley has experienced, and why. There +is no hard evidence and no conclusive circumstantial evidence that proves +abduction by extraterrestrial biological entities. Given the caveat that this +investigation remains incomplete, there is also no conclusive evidence that +Haley has been monitored or harassed by military operatives. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2839.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2839.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7015a247 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2839.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,449 @@ +SUBJECT: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO AN ALIEN? FILE: UFO2839 + + + +BY ERIN MURPHY for OMNI + + + +The alien spacecraft settles noiselessly to the ground. Having been alerted by +radio signals several weeks before of the extraterrestrials' peaceful +diplomatic mission to Earth, world leaders stand ready to welcome the +visitors. As the aliens emerge, President Clinton steps forward on behalf of +his peers to greet them. He extends his hand and says . . . + +Well, your guess is as good as ours on that count. + +Omni asked Clinton recently what he would say to such an unprecedented +delegation. He never responded. Neither did First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, +Vice President Al Gore, White House senior adviser George Stephanopoulos, or +the members of the cabinet. Health-care reform, the crime bill, and not +invading Haiti do make for a busy schedule, but couldn't they have found just +a couple of minutes to ponder such an intriguing scenario, particularly in an +era when more people than ever before believe that we are not alone in the +universe? Or, for the conspiracy-minded, do they have something to hide? + +We posed our question to every member of Congress, to, and we're glad to +report that one intrepid senator from Tennessee sent us a delightful and +insightful answer, welcoming our fictional visitors as only a denizen of +Capitol Hill could. We canvassed staffers in virtually every branch of the +federal government as well, and the three responses prove that while humor may +be rare indeed in the government, it's not altogether extinct. + +We didn't restrict our survey to the U.S. government. We asked world leaders, +governors of all 50 states and the U.S. territories, mayors of major U.S. +cities, and influential figures in the arts, science, the media, and other +fields. Four governors and one mayor sent us thoughtful responses, with the +wily governor of Puerto Rico concocting a truly stellar ad campaign for his +island's tourism industry. + +We heard from three Pulitzer Prize-winners: Playwright Arthur Miller +delivered a cautionary message to would-be visitors, humorist Dave Barry has +a pressing question of his own, and Bloom County and Outland cartoonist +Berkeley Breathed relayed his version of Opus the Penguin's close encounter of +the third kind. + +Cosmopolitan editor Helen Gurley Brown reminded us in her response that +traveling hundreds of light-years must be terribly draining. Not to worry, +Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous host Robin Leach and author Harlan Ellison +have figured out the perfect refreshments to offer pinkish extraterrestrials. + +Those are just a few of the fascinating responses we received. + +Actually, some of the notes from our survey subjects telling us why they +couldn't answer our letter were even more entertaining. James Earl Jones, who +gave voice to the most imposing fictional alien around, Darth Vader, told us +via his publicist that he's "not comfortable with this kind of article and +does not feel he has anything to say in this context. "Maryland governor +William Donald Schaefer "prefers not to comment on possible extraterrestrial +beings visiting Earth. "David Letterman, according to his executive assistant, +is "currently putting all of his energies into making the show a complete +success." We were hoping that Dave would deliver one of his trademark Top Ten +lists, but since he didn't come through, we went ahead and made up our own. + +Now we'd like to hear from Omni's readers. What would you say to a peaceful +alien delegation to Earth? + +Joseph Duffey +Director, U.S. Information Agency +I would be torn, as many might be, between the impulse to be oh so serious and +the impulse to be very, very silly. In any case, I submit to you two +greetings, one for each impulse: "At last! An impartial jury for the O.J. +Simpson trial." Welcome, strangers. Were you lonely, too? + +Jane Alexander +Chairman, National Endowment for the Arts +I would say, "Let me show you what it means to be human." And then I would +take them to the theater, the symphony hall, the opera house, the movies, the +museums. I would show them our great architecture and design, read poems, tell +stories to them, take them to see the paintings of da Vinci, Georgia O'Keeffe, +and Picasso, to a Greek tragedy or a comedy by Shakespeare, to hear Louis +Armstrong, Mozart, and Oklahoma! I would show them the grace of dancers, the +elegance of a bow passed across the violin's strings, and the profundity of a +child drawing a picture of her mother. And then, after a crash course in our +culture, when the gain insight into our imaginative life, our truest +expressions of our humanity, I would ask them: "What is art where you live?" +And I would hope to be swept up by their story. And I would hope that we could +go on telling each other our stories long after they had intended to fly away. + +Leonard Nimoy +Actor and director +Due to language barriers and other sociological considerations, it is highly +unlikely that we will have any success with verbal communications. I have +therefore handed the assignment to my friend, Spock, who is highly skilled in +nonverbal diplomacy. I have great trust that he will handle matters +successfully. + +Berkeley Breathed +Cartoonist, Bloom County, Outland +Priorities would have to be decided, of course. Naturally, official victim +status would need to be established, a grievance group founded, and +letterheads designed. A suitable term for their minority would need to be +determined even before their feet, or tentacles, or ambulatory hair follicles +reached the ground from their craft. For instance, "alien of color" or +"noncolor" if pigment-challenged. The Los Angeles Times would have to be +informed of these terms and their stylebook appropriately changed. At that +point we could move forward to nailing down a merchandising deal. Anything +else would be small talk. + +Pedro Rossello +Governor, Puerto Rico +Friendly star-travelers arrive. How do I greet them? All right. Let's see. +Well, I guess I could do worse than to give them our standard treatment . . . +"Welcome to Puerto Rico, the United States' Island of enchantment in the +Caribbean Sea . . . and--since the honor seems to have fallen to me--on behalf +of all God's creatures on this planet, welcome to Earth." Assuming they +understood that much in either Spanish or English. I might then be inspired to +add . . . "Don't take this wrong, esteemed visitors, but your decidedly +extraterrestrial appearance--coupled with your magnificent vehicle--have given +me an irresistible idea: Could you possibly stay around long enough to do a +couple of tourism-promotion commercials for us?" What an opportunity! I can +see it now: + + for a certifiably + OUT OF THIS WORLD + Vacation Experience +sail, fly or warp-speed yourself to the Cosmic Continent of Puerto Rico! +"Great folks. Our favorite Earthlings." -- The Alpha Centauri Six + +Obviously disposed to humor the homeboys, our guests readily assent. Then, +after I scramble my troops via cellular phone (trying to assemble a camera +crew at 3:00 in the morning), we engage in some small talk while waiting to +shoot the immortal endorsement spots. Sure enough, I ascertain that our sunny +soil has been selected as Landing Site One because the first Search for +Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) signals they received were transmitted +from the world-famous radio telescope situated in the mountains above arecibo, +Puerto Rico. What a deal! Are we on the map, or what? Is our admission as +America's 51st state a cinch, or what? Am I as good as re-elected, or what? +What, what, what? Alas, the alarm clock rang and I woke up. But it sure was +fun while it lasted. + +Arno Penzias +Vice President of Research, AT&T Bell Labs +Personally, I'd like to make sure that both sides got a lot of preparatory +material before the folks in question actually set flipper on the Earth. Given +their evident technological superiority, we would probably have to take their +peaceful intentions at face value and help them get as much data about us as +they would care to have. Hopefully, that would give them enough insight to +avoid triggering a social calamity when one of them gets on a talk show, or +meets an overly ambitious politician. Assuming then, that I could leave such +practical cares aside, I'd tell them about our attempts to find the meaning of +life. Like us, they probably know more than they can prove. Perhaps we can +find some common ground in our contemplation of the universe we both inhabit. +I'd sure like to find out. + +Dave Barry +Humorist +"Do you guys have cable?" + +Paul Bohannan +Anthropologist and writer +What would I say to an "extraterrestrial delegation" visiting Earth? It seems +to me that it makes little difference what we say. Far more important is that +we listen and pay attention to what we hear. The most important single factor +would be overcoming our fears. Human nature developed evolutionarily in +situation that made it wise for us to distrust strangers. First contact +between Columbus and the Caribbean natives began on a friendly note--but both +were soon overcome by fear; the situation deteriorated fast, and Columbus +kidnapped several of them. The Pilgrims were greeted in English when they +landed--a local Indian had spent twenty years as a slave in England, +recognized them, and could talk to them. Unfortunately we have no record of +what either of them said. Cortes had a clumsy system of interpretation (from +Aztec to Mayan to Spanish via a Spaniard he had "rescued" after some years +among the Maya, including a Mayan wife). The major question: Who is going to +be the interpreter? Do we trust the interpreter? How do we deal with our own +terror that these extraterrestrials have come to destroy us? How do we keep +from mobbing or killing or enslaving them? The problem is with ourselves at +least as much as with the aliens, no matter what problems they present. We +have to be sure we understand what, if any, problems they do in fact present. +What we hear from inside ourselves--our own fears--is or far greater moment +than what they hear from us (and, without that interpreter, wouldn't +understand in any case). Only then can we talk to them! + +Bruce Campbell +Actor, The Adventures of Brisco Country, Jr., Evil Dead +If friendly aliens happened upon our planet, my message to them would be very +simple: "What took you so long?!" + +Kirk Fordice +Governor, Mississippi +"Welcome to the State of Mississippi, one of fifty United States of America, +on a planet known as Earth, third planet from the sun, located in this +beautiful outer fringe of the Milky way. We greet you in peace. We welcome you +in the same adventurous spirit that led you to break away from your home +planets--if indeed you come from planets--for we have a history of courageous +adventure all our own. Our country was discovered by a man who bravely went +against conventional wisdom that the world was flat in order to found a New +World--America. Brave souls from all continents of Earth left the only homes +they had ever known to come to this New World in search of freedom from +oppression of all kinds: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men +are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain +unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of +Happiness.--Declaration of Independence. We welcome you also in the names of +the brave men and women of Earth's space programs, who gave enormously of +their talents and lives to reach the moon and beyond. As you pass our only +natural satellite, please note the American flag symbolizing the "giant leap" +of faith, resources, and determination we made in achieving this victory over +the cold void of space. I deeply regret to say that it has been almost a +quarter of a century since we have ventured so far out again. This is +attributable to the shortsightedness of many of our past and present elected +leaders. It is my sincere hope that this, too, will pass and that, once again, +we will take to the stars in quest of knowledge and excellence--and the many +benefits that obtaining such knowledge bestows on all humankind. We commend +your obvious technological achievements from which we hope to learn. We invite +you to sample the great literature, artwork of all kinds, pinnacles of +philosophical and religious thought, and marvelous botany and wildlife +comprising our planet and history. Where a world and a species of enormous +potential. If you come to evaluate us, judge us on our successes as well as +our failures. While we have not always made the best use of our potential, we +are a species of much courage, capable of great understanding, conviction, and +achievement." + +Harian Mathews +U.S. Senator, Tennessee +I would welcome extraterrestrial visitors to Washington, DC, by telling them I +thought I'd landed on a different planet myself when I came here two and a +half years ago. If they'd arrived during some days of the 103rd congress, I'd +have asked for a lift back to Tennessee. They'd probably be dropping Elvis at +Graceland, anyhow, and my native Nashvill is on the way. My first words would +be directed to my fellow senators. I'd say that if extraterrestrials can +traverse a galaxy to reach Capitol Hill, Republicans and Democrats should be +able to cross a carpet to reach a compromise. 1994 was an election year, so +extraterrestrials might be mistaken for newly arriving senators and +congressmen--many of whom already are suspected of being from another planet. +Of course, the extraterrestrials probably spent less to get here, and they +arrived by spaceship, whereas politicians usually reach Washington by telling +voters what an awful place it is. Most of all, I would welcome our new friends +with a particular hope: that the people of our worlds--not the governments or +ambassadors but the everyday folks who constitute the life of worlds--will +share wondrous possibilities. I would assure them we are not perfect nor is +our Earth ideal. But I also would say there is something in humanity that +tries to rise above our shortcomings. For that, we are worth knowing. I would +add my hope that the meeting of our worlds will make us both better than we +are alone. + +Douglas Rushkoff +Author, Cyberia: Life in the Trenches of Hyperspace +My response may come off as flip at first, but it really does encapsulate what +I'd say if they came: "Please pardon our appearance while we remodel." + +Tome Servo +Urbane robot co-host of Mystery Science Theater 3000 +Okay, first of, let's not make the classic and erroneous assumption that +anybody who's able to hurl a can a few dozen light-years is automatically +smarter than us. I mean, sure, it's a momentous occasion and all, but we don't +have to fall all over ourselves to show them how friggin' great they are, do +we? I think you should let me handle this. First, I'd open with a joke. Let's +assume that if they're so damn smart to come there in the first place, they'd +know a little of the local tongue. If the aliens had butts, I might try the +classic, "Can I touch your butt?" That'd catch 'em off guard; it always does. +If they understood this risky yet sensitive greeting, they might immediately +sense our strength and vulnerability, the essentially dualistic nature of the +earthbound, eternally struggling for balance and equanimity, grasping for the +serene supernal, yet mired in he physical plane, the poignant, ironic, +fragile state of the world community. Then perchance they might offer us their +butts to touch, and a new age for humankind would open, the childhood endeth, +the future made manifest, a communion transcending, beyond time and space. +Then again they might hit me and go right back where they came from, so I +probably wouldn't open with, "Can I touch your butt?" Probably don't have +butts anyway, poor misshapen geeks . . . I'm sorry, what was the question +again? + +Walter J. Hickel +Governor, Alaska +In 1936, I graduated from high school in Claflin, Kansas. I remember our +teacher telling our graduating class that within our lifetime, man would walk +on the moon. Now Claflin, Kansas, which is populated by German Catholics, was +a very religious community, and any talk of man going to the moon--God's moon- +-was not warmly received. But I could picture it in my mind. I saw it as clear +as a bell, and knew it would happen. Thirty years later, as Secretary of the +Interior, I stood at Cape Kennedy and watched as Apollo 11 lifted off, +destined for the moon. Since that time, I have been privileged to sit on the +National Space Board, where the focus of our mission was to design the first +manned colony on the moon. I have always believed that mankind should strop +warring and, instead, channel our energies into pioneering projects that serve +the progress of civilization. Whether that civilization is within a region, or +across international boundaries, or interplanetary, is not what's important. +My message to such a delegation of extraterrestrials would be: "We welcome you +in peace. We have much to learn, and much to teach." + +Arthur Miller +Playwright +"Go back! Go back! You can get killed her!" + +Edward G. Rendell +Mayor, Philadelphia +After a quick hello, I'd ask them if they had a cure for AIDS, unemployment, +crime, drugs, hopelessness, and the breakdown of the family. Hope springs +eternal! + +Steve Allen +Writer and comedian +To Our Visitors: +We have translated the key part of your recent message as, "We are peaceful, +and we're dropping by for a visit." If ours were a largely rational universe, +your statement could be taken at face value. But our own judgment, on Planet +Earth, must inevitably be conditioned by long centuries of experience, and it +had been our finding that such protestations, when made by Earthlings, have +often been lies. If you are indeed peaceful you are unlikely to consider us +warlike. This is not because we fear you, and this largely because we know +practically nothing about you. We assume that because you have managed to +reach our part of space, you far exceed our own competence in matters +scientific. This, in turn, suggest that your intelligence is superior to our +own. Unfortunately, there has been no necessary connection, at least on our +planet, between intelligence and virtue, so as regards your either short-term +or ultimate intentions, we can do little more, for the present, than hope for +the best. But I must issue a warning, and it is one that I hope you will take +seriously. In saying this I intend no threat; I do not warn against acting on +such aggressive tendencies as you might harbor but rather of our own long +habituation to the most bloodthirsty behavior. There is scarcely a page of our +history that is not stained with blood. Secondly you should be aware, for your +own protection, that of all the hundreds of thousands of living creatures you +will find on our planet, we humans are, beyond the slightest question, the +most dangerous. It is true that there are other creatures that can inflict +harm, but they do so purely in self-defense or in accordance with their own +nature, to satisfy their hunger. That fearful creature known among humans as +the man-eating shark, for example, knows nothing of the human emotion of +viciousness. He si simply dangerous to other creatures when he is hungry. The +aggression of animals, therefore, is entirely understandable. The more ominous +aggression of humans has a large component of irrationality to it. You will +not even be able to depend on out acting in self-interest, for if that were +our only concern we would scarcely ever have initiated a war. And yet wars +have not only sporadically broken out to separate long periods of peace: it +has rather been the other way around. War seems to be our natural state, times +of peace come about because of either emotional, physical, or economic +exhaustion. Except for a few of us--who are often harshly criticized--we +humans do not seem to have any natural aptitude for peace whatever, partly, +perhaps, because peace is a blank, a negative, and absence of something, +whereas war is concrete, definite, and active. You will find that we humans +are remarkably gifted at waging war, whereas we are clumsy amateurs when +maintaining a peace. There is a certain amount of grim humor, I suppose, in +the possibility that, although we have traditionally, historically been +embroiled in tribal rivalries, your unexpected coming may serve to bring us +together by forcing us to realize that we are, after all, one human family. +But whether this happy outcome results or not, I would suggest that you do not +long turn your backs on us. And yet--such is the mystery of life in our +peculiar corner of the universe that many of us are also capable of the most +exquisitely tender concern for our fellow creatures, an ability to love that +extends even to the lesser animals. It is from this primary, primitive +emotion, I suspect, that there comes our sometimes astonishing ability to +create beauty, whether that attribute takes the form of painting, music, +sculpture, poetry, drama, or any other art. Perhaps the greatest favor you can +bestow on us is to share your opinion of the purpose of life, for we have +neverknown what it is. There is no shortage of theories, of course, but they +are legion and many are mutually exclusive. It is tragic, in fact, that some +of our most savage wars have been among groups that differed in regard to this +one basic question. Most of us, in the total absence of an ability to explain +either the physical universe or the reason for its existence in the first +place, simply assume that there is some all-powerful spirit that has created +literally everything. But even our most intuitive theologians have always been +at a loss to explain why a benevolent deity would create poisonous snakes and +spiders, deadly plants, and billions of bacteria and viruses that will kill +millions all over our planet. It follow, therefore, that if you are in a +position to enlighten us on such age-old questions, we will be profoundly +grateful. + +Helen Gurley Brown +Editor, Cosmopolitan +I don't mean to be too sensible or realistic, but I doubt I would be able to +get anyplace near the peaceful extraterrestrials who visited Earth. They would +immediately be snapped up by Hard Copy, Prime Time, 20/20, I.C.M., Creative +Artists and other talent agencies, Elite and Eileen Ford and other modeling +agencies, and asked to be quests of honor at a dozen fundraisers . . . how +could you get to them? If I eve did, I would just say, "Hello, I'm glad you +finally got here. Are you feeling jet-lagged, dehydrated, or debilitated in +any way from your long trip? It's nice to see you." + +George Carlin +Comedian +"Get out! Go back! Save yourselves! You don't know what you're getting into. +Prolonged contact with our species can only degrade your present standards, +whatever they are." + +Bernard Shaw +Principal Anchor, CNN +I would not assume the delegation could speak or understand English. Nor would +I presume to be Earth's spokesman. I would run! + +Brereton C. Jones +Governor, Kentucky +I was extremely intrigued by your question of how we would welcome an +extraterrestrial delegation visiting Earth. If a member of the delegation +stated, "Take me to your leader," I could explain that I am the leader of a +proud group of people known as Kentuckians. I also would explain that we are a +peace-loving people, and we are interested in learning about the other beings +in the universe. In addition, I would want to give them two items that I +believe would best explain who we are as a country. I would present to them a +copy of the U.S. Constitution, and a copy of the Bible. The Constitution, I +would tell them, is the compilation of rules that we as a people have chosen +to follow. The Bible, I would continue, is the compilation of rules that our +Creator has chosen for us to follow. I would explain that we do not always +abide by all of these rules, but that we are striving to do so, and that is +our ultimate goal. Then, I would conclude by inviting them to stay awhile, and +sample some of the many advantages Kentucky has to offer. They are simply out +of this world! + +Chuck Yeage +Brigader General (retired) U.S. Air Force +It would depend on who, when, and where. In my opinion one cannot predict what +one would say to a bunch of extraterrestrial being unless we knew a few things +about the conditions of the meeting. + +William Beecher +Director, Office of Public Affairs for the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission +My first instinct was a flip response. "What would you like for lunch?" But, +since you're obviously serious, I would ask how we could put together teams of +outstanding specialists from a cross-section of disciplines to explore ways of +trying to improve the quality of life on each planet, based on disparate +lessons learned in science, medicine, history, literature,and the arts. + +Harlan Ellison +Writer +If, by some frenzied desalination of our murky gene pool between then and now, +exultantly ridding us of our hideous and undying xenophobia, I suggest that we +go out to meet them buck naked, our hands empty and palms up, extended and +open. And I suggest we say only this: "Help us. We are very young and we want +to know." Alternately, if we don't get the clean-up time, if it happens +tomorrow or Thursday, then there is only one thing we should say to visiting +aliens, and it is this: "So? You had a nice trip? Are you tired, want to wash +up, have a bite to eat? A nice piece of brisket, maybe, some fresh fruit? +Sweetheart, you'll suck an orange, you'll feel so refreshed! Then we can +chat." + +Lawrence Ferlinghetti +Poet +Who could translate? + +Robin Leach +Host, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous +"Welcome--we hope you find us peaceful, too. What took you so long? We always +believed you were out there! Would you like some champagne and caviar to +celebrate your arrival? Then we have a million questions to ask you; +especially, how long have you existed and how long have you known about us? +And did you see E.T.?" + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2840.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2840.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..95739d29 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2840.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +SUBJECT: SPACE ALIEN MEETS WITH NEWT GINGRICH! FILE:UFO2840 + + + +BY LESKIE PINSON for WWN + + + +Washington, D.C. -- The space alien who make worldwide headlines by visiting +George Bush, Bill Clinton and Ross Perot is reportedly meeting with Newt +Gingrish! + +WWN has obtained a Secret Service photograph showing the new Speaker of the +House, Sen. Bob Dole and other congressional leaders emerging from a two-hour +meeting with the alien. + +Gingrich declined to discuss the meeting but spokesman Tony Blankley described +the talks as "very intense." + +Blankely denied rumors the alien was seeking financial aid for +extraterrestrials who have secretly colonized Earth, saying "I can assure you +that no extraterrestrial that comes to this country from outer space would be +eligible for welfare benefits of any kind." + +Sen. Dole said: "I'm not at liberty to say what we discussed but I can say it +was one of the most productive meetings with an extraterrestrial we've ever +had." + +Yet another Washington source said: "The alien and Mr. Gingrich discussed +nearly every topic concerning the United States. They talked about world +peace, economic issues and social concerns -- but the primary issue was +gingrich's future plans. + +"The Speaker has said many times in the past he isn't interested in being +President but the alien apparently encouraged him to reconsider that +decision. The alien indicated he strongly supports Gingrich's policies and +would likely back him if he decided to run for President." + +The alien endorsed Clinton in the Aug. 11, 1992, edition of the WWN, helping +the Democratic candidate to victory. However, the alien has since met with +conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh and expressed disappointment with +Clinton's performance. + +In the meeting with Limbaugh the alien reportedly said the leaders on his +planet are looking for a new candidate to support in the next Presidential +election. + +"The alien said leaders on his planet closely follow activities on Earth and +are particularly concerned with world peace," the source said. "He told Mr. +Gingrich he is looking for a strong leader on Earth with whom his planet could +work." + +The alien's home planet is technologically more advanced than Earth. He has +made an offer to share this technology with the United States and even took +Clinton on a ride in a space ship, as reported in he Dec 1, 1992, edition of +the WWN. + +But in the past two years the alien has distanced himself from Clinton. And +meeting with Gingrich confirms the belief that the alien is looking for a new +partner in the U.S. government. + +One analyst said the Gingrich-alien meeting is a strong indication of the +changing direction of the political future of the United States. "The alien's +encounter with Gengrich is very revealing," says Perry Hogstead. + +"It would indicate Newt Gingrich is on his way to being even more powerful of +a political figure than he already is." + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Then who's going to take care of Frank?" Alice says +she contacted WWN because she believes a story about her bizarre experience +might help ease her plight. + +She's hoping other WWN readers who may have been attacked by the same alien +gang will be willing to contact her to share their experiences. Alice says the +horrifying crime occurred around 10 p.m. on December 21 while she and Frank +were shopping for Christmas presents. + +The couple were on their way to a parking area where they'd left their car +when they were accosted by four little green creatures. + +"They just popped out of nowhere and blocked our path," Alice recalled. + +"They looked so strange, with big eyes and shiny, leathery skin. + +"We thought they were going to be friendly, but one of them pulled a gun and +we knew we were in trouble. + +"I gave them my purse right away, but Frank wouldn't cooperate. I begged him +to give them his wallet, but he thought they were so small he could put up a +fight." + +Alice says the space aliens jumped Frank and beat him, then stole his wallet +and forced a slimy liquid down his throat. + +The E.T. attackers ran off, she says, but it was too late for her husband. He +began writhing in agony and started shrinking right before her eyes. + +Within minutes, the 34 year-old liquor salesman had turned into a cockroach +approximately two inches long. + +Alice says she captured the bug and stashed it in her purse, then put it in a +mayonnaise jar when she got home. "People think I'm crazy, but I know that bug +is Frank and I feel strongly that something ought to be done to help him," +Alice said. "That's why it's so important to me that people who have had this +happen to them get in touch with me. + +"I feel like I can't do anything on my own because nobody will believe me, but +that together we can make people listen. Then maybe we can find these thugs +and put them in jail where they belong -- and force them to tell us how to +bring Frank back to normal." + +Readers who want to share their personal alien encounters can write to Alice +c/o Weekly World News, 600 S. East Coast Ave., Lantana, Fla. 33462. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2842.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2842.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c5b804e5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2842.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO ABDUCTS THREE BOYS! FILE: UFO2842 + + + +BY MARY KEENER for WWN + + + +Concordia, Argentina -- Three lucky children were taken aboard a UFO and shown +the wonders of the universe on a three-day journey into outer space, civilian +and military authorities confirm. + +"Adults lie. Teenagers lie. But these children are too young to lie, at least +to lie like this," said Roderigo Ortiz, special investigator with the +Concordia Police Department. + +"From all appearances they spent time on a starship piloted by an +extraterrestrial life form. They actually traveled into space and saw the +sights like tourists. + +"At one point they thought God was taking them 'to Heaven' as he -- whoever or +whatever 'he' was -- stood at the controls of the UFO." + +Newspaper reports identified the children as 9-year-old Andres Molero, and his +brothers, Jorge, 8, and Carlos, 7. + +According to the children and a half dozen eyewitnesses, a 75-foot craft +swooped over the field they were playing in on December 5 and sucked them into +the craft "with a strange beam of bluish light." + +"A great golden ship took us up in the sky and it was driven by God -- I know +it was God," said Andres. + +"He wore golden robes and had long silver hair and was shiny all over. + +"He was very kind and told us to call him Lalar. He showed us the moon and +other places in the sky and said they were the stars." + +The other children confirmed Andres' account and said they were scared "for a +little while." + +Jorge explained: "Lalar scraped our faces with a white stick and stuck us in +the back with a needle but he didn't hurt us." + +Carlos, the youngest of the abducted children, said: "There were little lights +blinking on and off everywhere. + +"The man looked funny because he had a big head and two big yellow eyes. + +"He is our friend." + +Because of the difficulties of interviewing children of such tender age, +authorities have yet to determine everything that happened during their three +days aboard the spaceship. + +It appears that they underwent some sort of medical testing, however, because +needle marks were still visible on their backs after they got home, officials +said. + +A military spokesman would neither confirm nor deny reports that a UFO was +picked up on radar the day the children were abducted and the night they were +brought home. "We are investigating and the facts will be made public when +they are known," he added. + +"We hope to have some solid information soon." + +The children's parents, Emilio and Carmen Molero, declined to comment on the +incident. UFO researcher Armando Azparen has not spoken to the children +personally because the authorities have refused to answer or honor his +requests for an interview. + +"But from what I have read in the newspapers, I believe that these children +are telling the truth about their journey in the UFO," he said. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2843.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2843.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8af7545d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2843.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +SUBJECT: WE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO A SPACE ALIEN FILE: UFO2843 + + + +BY HAL THOMAS for WWN + + +Vero Beach, Fla. -- Ben and Pattie Cramer lived next door to a space alien for +two mind-numbing months but when they finally got enough nerve to go to the +police, the creature disappeared! + +Entries in a diary that the couple kept and eventually turned over to +detectives alleged that the neighbor: + +1. Drank chlorine bleach straight up from a jug. + +2. Slept standing up in his front yard. + +3. Took air and soil readings with sophisticated electronic devices at least +once a week. + +4. Disciplined his daughter with a hand-held laser. + +5. Glistened like aluminum foil when he stood in the sun. + +6. Preferred static to music on the radio. + +7. Grazed on his own shrubbery. + +8. Was terrified of water and once screamed in agony when he was caught in the +rain. + +Incredibly, there's more. The Cramers said the neighbor could vanish and +materialize at will and on two occasions ate hot coals he snitched from their +backyard grill. + +"I knew that 'thing' was trouble from the first time I laid eyes on him," said +Mrs. Cramer. + +"I still get goose bumps just thinking about it. We're lucky he didn't kill us +with his laser gun." + +As incredible as the couple's story sounds, police say it may be rooted in +fact. + +They said that photographs taken by Mrs. Cramer appear to show the neighbor +punishing his daughter with a laser weapon. + +And tape recordings made outside his house captured the high frequency, siren- +like "messages" that he transmitted skyward for 39 seconds every night. + +"The man was clearly exhibiting some strange behavior but when we went to +question him the house was empty and he and his daughter were gone," a local +policeman confirmed. + +"Oddly enough, a UFO was sighted in the area that very same day. And while +that doesn't necessarily mean he was a space alien the evidence seems to +suggest that he was," said the cop, who requested anonymity. + +Said Ben Cramer: "We should have gone to the police as soon as we suspected +that our neighbor was an extraterrestrial. I want to kick myself every time I +think about it." + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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She'd +become concerned after she let her dog out and the terrified animal ran right +back inside and hid under a table. Miss Cejda investigated, spotted the UFO +and called 911. + +"Please don't hang up on me," she pleaded to the police dispatcher. "I'm not a +nut case." + +After contacting the police, Miss Cejda called neighbor Mike Stelter, who +videotaped the strange object hovering several hundred feet above them. + +"There's obviously something in the sky," said Trooper Robert Voice, who has +seen the videotape. "You can see darkness off to the side of the light, but +it's hard to tell the size of the object." + +Trooper Guldner said three jets flew overhead as they watched the UFO -- and +that the ship's lights suddenly went off as each of the planes flew by. + +After the jets passed, the lights came back on. + +The UFO hovered over the Michigan farmland for nearly an hour before it +suddenly turned off its lights and disappeared in the predawn darkness. + +Trooper Voice said other residents in the area reported seeing a strange light +in the sky, but Trooper Guldner, Stelter and Miss Cedja apparently had the +best view. + +The incredible sighting has been reported to the UFO Reporting Center in +Seattle, Wash., and the state police post has contacted the Air Force and the +Federal Aviation Administration. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2845.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2845.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..894c3724 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2845.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +SUBJECT: NEW STUDY BASED ON THOUSANDS OF SIGHTINGS FILE: UFO2845 + + + +BY MICHAEL ANDREWS for WWN + + + +A "mother ship" resembling a giant football . . . a whirling coin-shaped disk +that flashes across the sky at fantastic speed . . . a diamond-shaped craft +with a brilliant, mirror-like surface. + +These are among the most common UFO shapes, according to veteran UFO +researcher Brad Steiger, author of Mysteries of Time and Space. + +Here are detailed descriptions based on Steiger's analysis of several thousand +sightings over the past 40 years: + +1. The Classic flying saucer. This is the most common UFO of all -- it's been +reported around the world for more than four decades, according to Steiger. +"The craft has a metallic saucer-like body ranging in diameter from 10 to 15 +feet. An exhaust port on the bottom emits a yellow light that dances like a +flame upon takeoff. Bright lights rim the saucer, and a clear circular dome is +often seen on the saucer portion." + +2. Conicl Disk. This UFO resembles a Chinese peasant's large straw hat. It has +a flat bottom. The craft is generally reported as being about 20 feet in +diameter and 10 to 12 feet high at the peak, with no exterior lights. + +3. Football Shaped. This craft has a thick black body that tapers off at +either end. Smaller UFOs have reportedly been seen entering and leaving a bay +on its lower surface -- so it's often called "mother ship." Reports have +placed the craft's size at up to 80 feet long and 20 feet high. + +4. Coin-Like Disk. Shaped like a giant 50-cent piece, this UFO is the type +most often reported by military and airline pilots flying at 20,000 to 40,000 +feet. Eyewitnesses say the flat edge of the disk often is ringed with red or +green lights. The spaceship is incredibly fast, zipping along at speeds of more +than 2,500 m.p.h. "The craft has been estimated at 15 to 20 feet in diameter +and 2 to 3 feet high." + +5. Top-Shaped. Reminiscent of a child's toy top, this craft is fat in the +middle and tapered above and below. It's covered with multicolored lights. +Powerful jets around its midsection move the UFO in any direction. "Round +portholes often ring the vehicle. The body often is said to be grayish, like a +shark's skin." + +6. Egg-Shaped. This massive vehicle -- also thought to be a mother ship -- has +been reported to be up to 200 feet in length. It has an oval shape like an +egg, with no visible portholes or windows, and glows slightly in the dark. + +7. Diamond-Shaped. This craft resembles the top half of a diamond mounted on a +flat surface. Its exterior is polished and as dazzling as a mirror in bright +sunlight. The UFO usually is about 18 feet across and 8 to 10 feet high. It +has not portholes or windows. + +8. Blinding Light. Typically spotted at night, this UFO doesn't have a +definite shape -- it's simply a dazzling orange light. "But it moves +methodically, as if guided by some form of alien intelligence," says Steiger. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2846.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2846.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4ee37cf6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2846.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +SUBJECT: LOCAL CITIZEN TELL'S ABOUT SEEING UFO's FILE: UFO2846 + + + +BY GENE BELEY for Country News + + +A leading Morgan Hill California citizen who is a CPA and a Director of the +Chamber of Commerce is seeking to make contact with people whom have seen +UFO's or alien beings from other worlds. He's likely to even take their call +during the busy tax season if they have a legitimate story to tell. + +Jose Mendoza, a partner with ex-Mayor and present Morgan Hill City Councilman +Joe Martucci of Martucci, Mendoza & Associates at 17600 Monterey in Morgan +Hill saw a UFO when he was seven years old (1963) that has made a profound +impression on him. It has also led to him being a novelist who is working on +his fourth book--all yet unpublished, but the subject matter is fascinating, +with a lot of philosophical questions revolving around alien beings. In all +four books, he's dealing with spirituality, God, man, and love, but in his +latest work, he focuses on aliens from unknown worlds coming to Earth. One has +to admit, no matter what you believe, that there aren't many accountants +around with this kind of creativity in their pen or computer keyboard. + +Undoubtedly, a lot of you may be laughing at this point, but this writer is +also a true believer that this subject will become the biggest news story of +our lifetime or the next generation's and believers today are just ahead of +their time as much as Columbus was when he had a theory that the world wasn't +flat and everyone laughed. Mendoza's credibility is strengthened even more by +the fact he once worked in Oxnard at PtMagu Naval Air Station as a civilian +air traffic controller and recalls several incidents involving UFO's that +never got officially reported. "One pilot was screaming at the top of his +lungs about a UFO coming at him. "Here it comes again--We're on a collision +course! + +"We're going to collide!" the pilot screamed.' + +"When he landed in Los Angeles we called him and asked if he wanted to file a +UFO report, and he said no. So I know there are a lot of unrecorded stories +out there." + +Mendoza spent two years as a child in Puerto Rico in the boondocks with no +electricity or running water--his father's idea of returning to nature. Jose's +father was the son of a wealthy rancher but, when the father died, he left +everything to his daughter, and Mendoza's father decided to acquire some land +cheaply and fend for himself. One night he called to Jose and his two sisters +to come outside and see the strange, bright lights. + +"The lights had a Saturn ring effect and we could hear engines approaching +like airplanes, but there were no airports around. When they came close, they +would just disappear. The next day, the newspapers published photos of UFO's +making low passes over the local beaches. + +"I remember intense silence. We were accustomed to a lot of night activity +like noises of the birds and I can still remember my father calling attention +to "how silent it is." + +"I'm currently working on a novel about UFO's. I know there are many others +out there who have had experiences like mine. Some have a good experience, +some bad, some even get ill. I want to get in touch with people who will +relate their experiences to me as I'm trying to answer questions in my mind +like 'Why are these alien beings visiting our planet Earth?' before I continue +my book. I'm stuck on a chapter where the main character is taken aboard an +alien vessel. I've got writer's block in just trying to figure out, what is +their mission? What are they doing here? Why the cat and mouse game? Why are +some people captured and some not? Are we some kind of scientific experiment? +Are they transplanting our DNA to modify their own makeup? Until I can answer +those kind of questions, I can't go forward in this book. Another factor is +the God factor. There is order in the Universe. You have to obey the Universal +laws which say that you can't walk through glass, or defy gravity without +modifications. + +This fourth book has a working title, One Hundred Pages on Love, it is about a +man who loses his wife, whom he loved very much. After she died of a bacterial +infection from drinking bad water, he goes off to Mexico to find inner peace. +He runs into a young boy who hands him a golden box with a map. This will lead +him into a cave with hieroglyphic scrolls that are the 100 Pages on Love. It +becomes even more interesting because each time he looks at them, the are +signed by a different signature, like RAMA, Thanksgiving, Christ, Buddha, and +"they just keep changing," Mendoza continues. + +"The gist of it is aliens are trying to prevent the man from getting into the +cave. The story line is first how the aliens try to prevent him from reaching +the cave to see the scrolls." + +One thing that fascinates Mendoza is why a lot of the public refuse to believe +the evidence from credible people on the UFO subject. "You could take two +PhD's and have them sight a UFO, and very few will believe them. I even have a +theory that there could be genetic engineering that took place a long time ago +that keeps this thinking alive. In the evolutionary process, a baby doesn't +know what a chair is until we teach him. Even religion has to be taught or +learned. We create our own illusions." + +Where Rainbow Ends, his third book, is about the illusion that man doesn't +have to die "because it is an illusion we created for ourselves back in the +time of Atlantis. + +"When you die, you come back in a whole new existence," Mendoza continues +telling about his third novel, dealing with reincarnation. + +Noted author Ruth Montgomery claims President Dwight D. Eisenhower was playing +golf in Palm Springs when aliens requested a meeting with him and he went and +toured their spacecraft. He reportedly talked to them about sharing technology +but Eisenhower said Americans were not ready for it yet. And, since that was +the Leave it To Beaver days and the Age of Innocence, he was probably right. +But it was during that era that many significant sightings were logged for +history from Great Falls, Mont. to Roswell, New Mex. One significant factor +now is television producers have been busy interviewing earthlings who have +either been participants in government cover-ups or seen crash sites where the +government told them to keep their mouths shut. Somehow television gives more +credibility when one can see the person being interviewed. Frequently, these +people are educated or highly respected people in their community, just like +Mendoza. + +Mendoza's second novel deals with a man who has been seeking God all his life +and leaves his job to do it. He encounters many people along the way and +that's the vehicle that promises to make the book interesting. His first book, +which he admits is still the roughest, since it was the practice vehicle, is +called Triumphant Voyage and is about a child abducted by a group going around +the country kidnapping children and exporting them as a commodity. + +"I like to write in a crescendo form to grab the reader and not let him go," +summarized Mendoza. + +Mendoza, a 1984 accounting graduate of State University of New York in Old +Westburg, also did postgraduate work at Golden Gate University in San +Francisco. He is on the Board of Directors of the Morgan Hill Chamber of +Commerce and the National Heart Association. When he got up in front of the +Chamber and announced his desire to talk to people who'd had encounters with +UFO's. We were even given a lead on one local person who saw alien beings on +Mt. Madonna at rather close range, but were unable to contact her before we +went to press. + +Is there anyone out there who is a candidate to talk to Jose Mendoza about UFO +or alien being experiences? If so, he urges them to call him at 408-776-0383 +or write him at 17600 Monterey Road, Suite B, Morgan Hill 95037. If there is a +publisher out there reading this that might be interested in the books, or a +TV-movie producer, call now. There just might be a goldmine in this +accountant's books. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2847.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2847.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0ea6f31c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2847.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +SUBJECT: THE DAY A UFO VISITED THE UVAS VALLEY FILE: UFO2847 + + +The Wallaces in Uvas Valley have seen UFO's -- One hovered over their driveway +near Dam. + + +Editor's not: Diane Wallace is an accomplished artist and teaches art to more +than 100 young people. Donna Cowan, a Live Oak High School teacher and Realtor +with her husband Don Cowan, calls Wallace "a very grounded person." + +I have had two experiences that appear to be related to UFO's --although, at +the time, I didn't know that's what they were. Interestingly enough, my +parents have also seen a UFO in England. + +One winter night in 1960 when I was 16-yers-old, I went for a long ride on my +bay mare in the Uvas Valley. I went way back into Eastman Canyon, which joins +Uvas Road near the peninsula of the reservoir. Dad had told me to be back by +dark, since it began getting dark as early as 5:30 p.m. in the winter months. +But dusk seemed to linger and I took my time getting back. When the sun +dropped quickly behind the hills, I was still about one and one-half miles +from home. So I pushed the mare into a full gallop and got to the barn in less +than 10 minutes. I scooped grain and filled the water bucket and threw her a +flake of alfalfa hay--about a 4" wide section of a large bale, then ran up the +short hill towards our house which overlooked the valley below and Uvas Dam. + +Just as I reached the crest of the hill, I noticed a bright white light to the +right, behind the tree tops. At first I thought it was the moon. But instantly +I realized it was moving towards me, gliding just above the tree tops until it +arrived right above me, and there it stopped. + +I looked up to see what kind of a strange craft the military was flying +overhead this time, as we are in a military flight path between Moffet Field +and Fort Ord. There had been rocket tests at Ames Research Lab in Milpitas the +previous week and the noise had been so loud we heard it. But as I looked up +at it, I realized this craft was not moving and it didn't even vibrate. It +was absolutely silent, and there was no wind or air current either. Back then, +there were no near neighbors and the entire area was secluded. The entire flat +ground around me was illuminated as bright as a sunny day in an area more than +400 feet in diameter. The edge of the light was crisp on the ground, because +the object was so close above me. When I looked up to see it better, I +couldn't see any features. The entire base was a disk of very brilliant white +light with no hot spots, no shadows. I wished the football field at Gilroy +High School could be lighted this bright for our night games! + +I knew NASA was working on fast rockets, but I'd never heard about slow +rockets. This was about as slow as they could get--at this rate, it would +never get anywhere, I thought. It continued to stay absolutely still. After a +few minutes, I got tired of waiting for it to move, so I started to walk +towards the house. I knew I was also late for dinner and didn't want trouble, +but as I moved, so did this white disk. When I stopped, it stopped. I took two +steps forward, and it moved a little bit sideways and began moving towards the +valley. So I started walking slowly and it then floated out over the valley, +close to the dam, and glided up gracefully to a low pass between the hills. +Then it hugged the tree tops as it passed over the mountain near Sycamore Road. + +From the time I left the barn until I arrived at our house it should have been +no more than 10 minutes--including the time I took to stop and watch the +craft. But when I got inside our house, my parents were worried and Dad was +fuming because I was so late. I was surprised to see that not only was dinner +finished, but the dishes were done, the rest of the kids were in bed, and it +was 9:30 p.m.! The entire episode from Eastman Canyon to the front door should +have taken no more than one-half hours I can't account for. I don't want to +say I was abducted; I'm just stating a fact. I do have a 1" visible scar on the +side of my knee that I don't remember getting, and I wonder if it might be +associated with the UFO sighting. + +To avoid being grounded that night, I told Dad I was at the barn, but spent +time with my mare. We went down to the barn to verify my story. Dad said, if +she wasn't still warm, I'd be in trouble. After galloping home so fast, I knew +she'd have to be warm, yet she was completely cool. Also she'd eaten all of +the hay and grain and was going to sleep--all of which takes a good deal more +than 10 minutes! + +I did not know about UFO's at the time. Keep in mind this was 1960 and I +thought of the weird object only as a slow rocket. I didn't think about it for +many years. + +Then in 1963, we were traveling in Mexico. On a steep mountain road in the +Sierra Madre Mountains, going towards the West Coast, on a road like a narrow +ribbon wrapping around the sheer face of the cliff in a series of endless +curves and hairpin turns. Glimpses of the road ahead revealed only more of the +same. Top speed possible for us was only about 30-33 miles per hour. It was +just too dangerous to drive any faster and we were terrified of the road. +There were no safety rails and the only view was down, which revealed tops of +high mountains rising above the clouds way below us. Above that were hundreds +of miles of clear blue sky and bright sunshine. + +After three hours of traveling on this treacherous road, we saw a silvery +white, blimp-like object at eye level. Although we had been looking out the +window the whole time, we had not noticed it before. Suddenly, it was suddenly +just there! + +I studied the object with great interest as it presented a perfect example of +modeled light on a cylindrical form--something I had studied intensely in my +college art class only a few months before. There were no visible seams of +irregularities. There was nothing uneven to break the perfect gradations from +the lighting. It was also absolutely smooth. There were no openings of any +kind or even windows. It was a pure silvery, white color and very clean--like +it was brand new, with no discoloration's. Again, this one was absolutely +silent, It kept pace with us for about 15-20 minutes at our maximum 33 m.p.h. + +I asked my father where our camera was, because I wanted a photo to illustrate +modeling on a cylinder, but he said it was in the trunk, and there was no way +he was going to stop on that treacherous road. + +Then we passed behind a rare rock outcropping on our right and emerged less +than 10 seconds later, only to find this blimp-like, silver-white craft had +vanished. + +We thought it was just some kind of a new, sleek blimp at the time, because in +1963, people just didn't hear much about UFO's. To this day, I have made it a +point not to do any research on them or watch TV shows about them, because I'd +like to find a respectable hypnotist who could hypnotize me and see what it +would reveal about my two experiences. By not absorbing anything else about +UFO's I'm trying to keep my experience as pure as possible for the day when I +might have a hypnotist write the next chapter for this story. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2848.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2848.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6a183796 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2848.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO IN ENGLAND FILE: UFO2848 + + +BY GEORGE WALLACE + + + +My family and I were staying in a campground at Horshum, England, near Gatwick +Airport and about 50 miles south of London in the late summer of 1982 when we +saw our first UFO. It was between late afternoon and evening, just as dusk +started to set in, and wife and I had decided to go for a short walk. We +hadn't gone far when our friend pointed to a bright object in the sky and some +distance away--perhaps one-half mile. + +When we wondered what it could be, our friend jokingly said ti might be a UFO. +We laughed at her, and then started guessing at what else it might be. It +couldn't be from the sun because the sky was slightly overcast and the clouds +were wispy. It couldn't be a plane since it wasn't moving. It couldn't be +reflections form a smelter, because there were no stacks in the area. + +The brightness was sharply contained within the shape we were seeing. Someone +suggested it was a balloon but the shape wasn't right. Finally, I said, "Well, +I'll believe it's a UFO if it finally moves and then moves quickly and doesn't +change shape until it's out of sight." And that's exactly what it did. I just +zoomed at warp speed from above us to the distant horizon in seconds, making a +curve as it left us, just like in a science-fiction movie. + +At the campground, people told us there had been numerous sightings in the +area and showed us a newspaper article about a sighting made only a few days +before. They also said we should report our sighting at the local police +station. The next morning we went to the station but felt a little sheepish +when the Constable asked what we wanted. To our surprise, he didn't look +surprised at all. He just hauled our a ready-made form especially designed for +UFO sightings! We still laugh about that. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2849.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2849.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3da43331 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2849.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +SUBJECT: Boeing 737, Ufo sighting, Great Brittain. FILE: UFO2849 + + + + +To all. + +A fellow ufo investigator from Germany made me notice a German tabloid paper +called 'Bild' which showed a ufo article. So I was able to buy this newspaper +in a Dutch bookstore. +This is a translation. + +Bild, 30 January 1995. + +Ufo over England attacks Boeing 737. +Ufo alarm in cockpit. +A Boeing 737 from British Airways, Flight Mainland-Manchester, (60 +passengers). +Captain Roger Wills stated: "We were already above Great-Brittain. Suddenly a +mysterious, fiercely illuminated triangle was heading towards our machine in +a straight way. We thought of the worst. We drew in our heads because we +thought we are going to collide. But in the last second the object passed our +airplane on the right side". +The captain immediately alarmed the nearest control-tower. The answer from +the +control-tower: "Besides you we didn't see anything on the radar!". +At this moment the British airtraffic control handles the case. + +Any comments from Great Brittain? + +Regards, +Henk van Winkoop +(Holland) + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2850.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2850.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5a050eac --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2850.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,494 @@ +SUBJECT: HACKERS TAKE ON THE UFOs ? FILE: UFO2850 + + + + + +((MODERATORS' COMMENT: We've read a bit of discussion about UFOs, +"hackers," and guerilla investigators. Whether myth or reality, the +discussions represent a segment of computer culture that others might +find interesting. So, we run the following as a reflection of one +segment of the culture that, even if myth, raises that age-old +question: Is it live, or is it memorex?)). + +Rumors have begun to surface about a group of hackers who were +involved in a project to uncover information regarding the existence +of UFOs. The most public example pertaining to this alleged project +was seen on Dateline NBC on the screen of the mystery hacker +"Quentin." + +The story goes that this group of individuals decided to put their +skills to work on a project that, if successful, would legitimize the +hacking process by uncovering information on what has been called the +greatest cover-up in the history of the world. Milnet TAC ID cards +were obtained through military officials sympathetic to the cause. +Several sites and networks were targeted that had in the past been +linked to UFO activity. These were sites like the Jet Propulsion +Laboratory, Sandia Labs, TRW Space Research, American Institute of +Physics, and various other educational, government and military sites. + +The rumors also emphasize that several sites had what these +individuals called "particularly heavy security." Within several +seconds after connection had been established, system administrators +of sites used in this project were contacted. Further rumors state +that there was information regarding a propulsion system designed +utilizing what is termed "corona discharge" being analyzed at one +site. The most sinister of all rumors states that one particular +participant who was allegedly deeply immersed in TRWs internal network +has not been heard from since uncovering data regarding a saucer being +housed at one of their Southern California installations. + +Believe what you will about the reality of this project. Much will be +dismissed as hacker lore, but within the core of every rumor lies a +grain of truth. + +Are we being lied to? Why is this information still classified by the +NSA? What are they hiding from us behind a maze of security? Will we +continue to stand idly by and let an uncaring and deliberately evasive +government shield us from what may be the most important, and +potential dangerous news to ever surface? Information wants to be +free, and only a concerted group effort can make this happen. How +much do you really want to know about what is really going on? + +What follows is information that has been released regarding this +project... + +++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +PROJECT ALF-1 + +A Planetary Effort + +TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET + +These are the raw data. Where comments are appropriate, they will be +included. The data will be grouped together with dates, names etc. to +make correlations easier. + +There are countless references to the aliens, their down space craft +and what the Government is doing with them. If, as is supposed, the +research on the craft and the 'ufonauts' continues today, then +undoubtedly there are computer records, somewhere. + +I. Searching the Skies; Tripping the Electronic Fence around the USA. + +US Space Command Space Surveillance Center, Cheyenne Mountain, +Colorado Springs, Box Nine (Electronic Surveillance Room) (This is +where they search for and track UFO activity.) U.S. Naval Space +Surveillance System, Dahlgreen, Virginia, (Main computer), Lake +Kickapoo, Texas (listening post): Search for +'Flash Traffic' +Commander Sheila Mondran +CINC-NORAD +Space Detection and Tracking System +Malabar, Florida +'Teal Amber' search +National Military Command Center - Pentagon +(These are the areas where UFO activity is tracked. +There is a radar shield around the country that is 'tripped' by UFO's. +All tracking and F14 scrambling is done through this system.) + +II. The Second Cover Up + +Defense Intelligence Agency +Directorate for Management and Operations +Project Aquarius (in conjunction with SRI) + +Colonel Harold E. Phillips, Army (where/what Feb. 1987) +UFO Working Group, (formed Dec 1987) +Major General James Pfautz, USAF, Ret. (March 87) +US Army experiments -(Monroe Institute, Faber, VA) +Major General Albert Stubblebine +Capt. Guy Kirkwood, +(thousands of feet of film of UFO's catalogued and on record somewhere.) +The UFO Working Group was formed because one arm of the Govt doesn't +know what the other is doing.) + +III. National Security + +NSA NAtional Security Agency, Dundee Society (Super secret elite +who have worked on UFO's.) +NSA - Research and Engineering Division +NSA - Intercept Equipment Division +Kirtland Force Base, Office of Special Investigations, Project +Beta. 1979-83-? (Sandia Labs are here.) +Paul Bennewitz +Project Blue +Project Blue Book + +(NSA computers do analysis for Pentagon.) + +IV. More Secret Players + +NASA, Fort Irwin, Barstow, CA +NASA Ames Research Center, Moffet Field Naval Base +SETI +State Dept. Office of Advanced Technology +Any Astronauts from Mercury, Gemini and Apollo +CIA - Office of Scientific Investigation +CIA - Domestic Collection Division + +(NASA has known about UFO's since the astronauts saw and photoed them. +Records somewhere.) + +V. Dealing with the Secret + +MJ-12 (1952) +Majectic 12 +Operation Majestic 12 +MAJIC-12 +Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter +Dr. Vannevar Bush +Dr. Detlev Bronk +Dr. Jerome Hunsaker +Dr. Donald Menzel +Dr. Lloyd Berkner +General Robt. Montague +Sidney Souers +Gordon Gray +General Hoyt Vandenberg +Sect State James Forrestal +General Nathan Twining +Pres. Truman +Pres. Eisenhower + + (One of the biggest secrets ever.) + +Nevada Desert, Area 51, S4 (houses UFO's) +(Robert Lazar talked!) 9 space ships on storage. Propulsion by +corona discharge. + +(Area 51 is the most protected base on the planet.) + +VI. ROSWELL, NM Crashes +Mac Brazel (farmer) +Major Jesse A. Marcel +509th. Bomber Group +Lewis Rickett, CIC Officer +Colonel William Blanchard +Gerald Anderson, witness to crash and aliens + +Wright Patterson Air Force Base, (parts lists of UFO's catalogued; +autopsies on record) (Bodies in underground facility) +Foreign Technology Building +USAAF (United States Army Air Force reports: "Early Automation" +Muroc, CA (Base with UFO's for study) + +(1 saucer with 4 aliens. They were transported to Wright and then +saved, catalogued and autopsied.) + +VII. THOSE ON GOVT SHIT LIST + +(People who have gotten close.) + +Robert Lazar +Major Donald Keyhoe +William Moore +Stanton Friedman +Jaime Shandera +Whitley Streiber +Timothy Goode, UK + +Other UFO Crashes +Del Rio, TX 12/50, Colonel Robert Willingham +Las Vegas, 4/18/62 +Kecksburg, PA 12/9/65 + +VIII. International + +Belgian Air Force. (They are going public and have records. +Press conference held 7/12/91.) +Australian Air Force +UK; GCHQ +British Air Force +Belgium: +NATO Radar Stations + +IX. UFO Civilian Groups. (What do they really know?) + +NICAP, National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena +(private company.) + +APRO, Tucson, AZ (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, +private company.) + +MUFON Mutual UFO Network + +X. GENERAL + +Kenneth Arnold, June 24, 1947 +Cattle and Sheep Mutilations +General and Pres. Eisenhower, (private files and library) +President Truman +Wright Field or Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, OH, (Air +Force Foreign Technology Division) +USAF Project Saint +USAF Project Gemini +Project Moon Dust +Project Sign +Project Grudge +General Hoyt Vandenberg (1940-1960) +Air Force Regulation 200-2 (8/12/54) +Holloman AFB, NM +Roswell, NM July 7, 1947 + + +XI. Possible Searches + +Presidential Libraries +Old USAAF, (United States Army Air Force) +NASA +Astronaut Frank Borman, Gemini 7, pictures of UFO +Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11, saw UFO's on moon. +Colonel Gordon Cooper saw a bunch of them +James McDivitt, 6/66 +United Nations +NATO; +General Lionel Max Chassin, French Air Force +Star Wars, United Kingdom, 23 scientists killed in 6 years. +Gulf Breeze, FL +Additional UFO records at NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI + + +Good Searching. + + ++++++++++++++++++ + + Project + ->Green Cheese<- + Data Base + + +++++++++++++++++++ +Holloman AFB + Location: New Mexico. Preconceived landing 15 years ago. + + +DDN Locations: ++++++++ + +NET : 132.5.0.0 : HOLLOMAN : + +GATEWAY : 26.9.0.74, 132.5.0.1 : HOLLOMAN-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: EGP,IP/GW : +GATEWAY : 26.9.0.74, 132.5.0.1 : HOLLOMAN-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: EGP,IP/GW : + + +HOST : 26.10.0.74 : HOLLOMAN-TG.AF.MIL : VAX-8650 : VMS : TCP/FTP,TCP/TELNET,TCP + SMTP : + +HOST : 26.6.0.74 : HOLLOMAN-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS100 : VSOS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP, + TCP/SMTP : + +Host: DDNVAX2.6585TG.AF.MIL + 156.6.1.2 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +Kirtland Air Force Base + Office Of Special Investigations. Sandia Labs are here. Also part of + NSA Intercept Equipment Division. + +Key Words/names: +++++++++ +Sandia Labs +Project Beta (1979-83-?) +Paul Bennewitz +Project Blue +Project Blue Book + +DDN Locations: ++++++++ + +NET : 131.23.0.0 : KIRTLAND-NET : +NET : 132.62.0.0 : KIRTLAND2 : +GATEWAY : 26.17.0.48, 131.23.0.1 : KIRTLAND2-GW.AF.MIL,KIRTLAND-GW.AF.MIL + : CISCO-MGS : UNIX : IP/GW,EGP : +GATEWAY : 26.18.0.87, 132.62.0.1 + : KIRTLAND1-GW.AF.MIL,KIRTLAND1606ABW-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS : + : EGP,IP/GW : +HOST : 26.0.0.48 : KIRTLAND.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.0.0.87 : KIRTLAND2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.6.0.87 : KIRTLAND-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS300 : VS :: + ++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +NASA + What can I say about NASA that you couldn't guess for yourself.... + (Except that the following sights are SPECIFIC NASA sights, not + just randomly suspected sights). + +DDN locations: ++++++++ + +Fort Irwin, Barstow, CA: ++++++++++ +NET : 134.66.0.0 : IRWIN : +NET : 144.146.0.0 : FTIRWIN1 : +NET : 144.147.0.0 : FTIRWIN2 : +GATEWAY : 26.24.0.85, 26.7.0.230, 144.146.0.1, 144.147.0.0 + : FTIRWIN-GW1.ARMY.MIL : CISCO-GATEWAY : CISCO : IP/GW,EGP : +HOST : 26.14.0.39 : IRWIN-ASBN.ARMY.MIL : NCR-COMTEN-3650 : COS2 :: +HOST : 26.13.0.85 : FTIRWIN-AMEDD.ARMY.MIL : ATT-3B2-600G : UNIX + : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : +HOST : 26.14.0.85 : FTIRWIN-IGNET.ARMY.MIL : DATAPOINT-8605 : RMS :: +HOST : 26.15.0.85 : IRWIN-EMH1.ARMY.MIL,FTIRWIN-EMH1.ARMY.MIL : SPERRY-5000 + : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : + +Moffet Field Naval Base (Ames Research Center): ++++++++++++++++++++++ +GATEWAY : 26.20.0.16, 192.52.195.1 : MOFFETT-FLD-MB.DDN.MIL,AMES-MB.DDN.MIL + : C/70 : CHRYSALIS : IP/GW,EGP : +HOST : 26.0.0.16 : MOFFETT.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : + ++++++++++++++++++++++++ +Pentagon (National Military Command Center) + One of many places in charge of tracking UFO activity. + + +Possible DDN sights: ++++++++ + +GATEWAY : 26.9.0.26, 134.205.123.140 : PENTAGON-GW.HQ.AF.MIL : CISCO-AGS : + : EGP,IP/GW : +GATEWAY : 26.25.0.26, 131.8.0.1 : PENTAGON-GW.AF.MIL,HQUSAFNET-GW.AF.MIL + : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : +GATEWAY : 26.10.0.76, 192.31.75.235 : PENTAGON-BCN-GW.ARMY.MIL : SUN-360 + : UNIX : IP/GW,EGP : +GATEWAY : 26.26.0.247, 192.31.75.1 : PENTAGON-GW.ARMY.MIL : SUN-3/160 + : UNIX : EGP,IP/GW : +GATEWAY : 26.31.0.247, 26.16.0.26, 141.116.0.1 : PENTAGON-GW1.ARMY.MIL + : CISCO : CISCO : IP/GW,EGP : +HOST : 26.0.0.26 : PENTAGON.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.24.0.26 : OPSNET-PENTAGON.AF.MIL : VAX-8500 : VMS + : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : +HOST : 26.10.0.76, 192.31.75.235 : PENTAGON-BCN.ARMY.MIL : SUN-360 : UNIX + : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : +HOST : 26.0.0.247 : PENTAGON2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.7.0.247 : PENTAGON-AMSNET.ARMY.MIL : AMDAHL : MVS + : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP : +HOST : 26.14.0.247 : NSSC-PENTAGON.NAVY.MIL : ALTOS-3068A : UNIX + : TCP/FTP,TCP/TELNET,TCP/SMTP : +HOST : 26.18.0.247 : PENTAGON-EMH4.ARMY.MIL : SPERRY-5000/80 : UNIX + : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : +HOST : 26.26.0.247, 192.31.75.1 : PENTAGON-AI.ARMY.MIL : SUN-3/160 : UNIX + : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/FINGER : + ++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +Raddaman + Location of infamous building 18a. Suspected saucers and others? + +DDN location, yet unknown. + + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +SECI + ? + +DDN Locations: ++++++++ + +NET : 192.108.216.0 : ARC-SETI-NET : + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +Utah Locations: + + + +GATEWAY : 26.18.0.20, 131.27.0.1 : HILL-GW.AF.MIL,HILLAFBNET-GW.AF.MIL + : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : + +GATEWAY : 26.18.0.20, 131.27.0.1 : HILL-GW.AF.MIL,HILLAFBNET-GW.AF.MIL + : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : + +HOST : 26.5.0.20 : HILL.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.0.0.99 : HILL2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.12.0.99 : HILL-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS100 : VS + : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : + +++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +Wright Patterson AFB + Catalogued UFO parts list. Autopsies on record. Bodies located in + underground facility of Foreign Technology Building. + +DDN Locations: ++++++++ + + +HOST : 26.0.0.47 : WRIGHTPAT.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.8.0.123 : WRIGHTPAT2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.0.0.124 : WRIGHTPAT3.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +HOST : 26.3.0.170 : WAINWRIGHT-IGNET.ARMY.MIL : CONVERGENT-TECH-CN-100 + : CTOS :: +HOST : 26.0.0.176 : WRIGHTPAT4.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : + +++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +Nevada: + + +NET : 131.216.0.0 : NEVADA : + + +++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +Random Suspected Nets: + +WIN: + Top Secret Network. 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Composed of SCINET, WINCS + ([World Wide Military and Command Control System] Intercomputer + Network Communication Subsystem), and Secretnet(WIN). + +NET : 22.0.0.0 : DISNET : + +------------------------------ + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2851.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2851.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f9feddc7 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2851.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,638 @@ +SUBJECT: FROM A REPORTER WHO WORKS OUT NEAR AREA 51 FILE: UFO2851 + + +PART 1 + + + +THE GROOM LAKE DESERT RAT. An On-Line Newsletter. +Issue #14. August 10, 1994. + -----> "The Naked Truth from Open Sources." <----- +AREA 51/NELLIS RANGE/TTR/NTS/S-4?/WEIRD STUFF/DESERT LORE +Written, published, copyrighted and totally disavowed by +psychospy@aol.com. See bottom for subscription/copyright info. + +In this issue... + A LAND GRAB ARGUMENT + WHERE TO WRITE + INTEL BITTIES + +[Note: This issue has been sent in two parts. The first ends with +a "CONTINUED" notice and the second ends with "###".] + + ----- A LAND GRAB ARGUMENT ----- + +The Battle for Freedom Ridge will be coming to a head in the next +few weeks when the local BLM office completes processing of the +Air Force withdrawal application and submits it to Washington for +a decision. A letter writing campaign could be effective now, but +only if the letters focus on technical weak points in the +application, not on the broader social implications of the +withdrawal. + +When we recently reviewed the application case file at the Las +Vegas BLM office, we found it packed with passionate letters +denouncing the withdrawal. The bulk of these made a government- +accountability argument: If the military closes the land, citizen +oversight will be lost over the "nonexistent" Groom facility. +Essentially, these letters are asking BLM and the Dept. of +Interior to evaluate social priorities and defense needs and make +a value judgment about what is most important. + +No matter how compelling this kind of argument may seem to an +average citizen, it probably won't go very far in the bureaucratic +world. The Dept. of Interior isn't qualified to make judgments +outside the realms of land use and environment impact. It cannot, +for example, evaluate national security needs; it simply does not +have the qualifications or resources in this area. If forced to +make a value judgment about defense priorities, it will simply +follow the recommendation of the only government entity that does +have the resources and expertise--the Department of Defense. + +More effective challenges are subtle procedural ones, which only a +few people have presented so far. These require an understanding +of how the system works and the sort of things that the Dept. of +Interior is qualified to deal with. The most promising kind of +challenge is to find a flaw in the application itself or the way +it was processed. One could challenge the Environmental +Assessment and show that it is somehow incomplete or +inappropriate. One could look for inconsistencies between this +land action and some obscure planning document. One could gum up +the proceedings with FOIAs, appeals and nuisance lawsuits. + +There are many possible procedural challenges, but the one that we +find most appealing is elegantly simple. It appeals to common +sense and does not stray far from the government-accountability +issues that are our true motivation. To appreciate this argument, +we must first understand the basic structure of our government and +how this withdrawal fits in. + + ----- FUNDAMENTALS OF GOVERNMENT ----- + +There could be no more inept form of government than a pure +democracy. Imagine a country where every national decision was +put to a popular vote and every citizen was entitled to an equal +say in everything their government did. Nothing would get done! +There are too many decisions to be made, and no citizen has the +time or interest to remain informed on all of them. In an ideal +nation run by talk show hosts where each day's government policy +was wired directly to public opinion polls, the mercurial whining, +sentiment and hysteria of the audience would soon cripple every +institution and bring to a halt all public services. + +Thank God in own semi-democratic society the people are kept at +bay. Aside from occasional state referenda on isolated issues, +the citizenry has the ultimate say in only a single kind of +decision: that of who to elect to represent them for a given +period of time. The people do not participate in every new law +drafted by Congress; they are only empowered to choose senators +and representatives who, once in office, are allowed to exercise +their own personal judgment. + +The people delegate to their congressional representatives the +authority to make major decisions about their country's future, +but Congress does not have the time to oversee every decision the +government makes. Instead, it drafts the broad outline of what +must be done, and then delegates to the Executive Branch the power +to fill in the missing regulations and decide on specific actions +within the law. + +The Executive Branch of government is the massive bureaucracy that +is charged with carrying out the laws and programs authorized by +Congress. All the "public services" the government provides, +including national defense and public land management, fall within +this hierarchical structure. At the top of the organizational +tree is the President. He is the manager we hire every four years +to oversee the bureaucracy and make the thousands of day-to-day +operating decisions that Congress couldn't be bothered with. The +sheer volume of these decisions would overwhelm the man himself, +so he hires a staff of specialized managers to handle specific +areas. This is his Cabinet and the politically appointed cadre of +undersecretaries, diplomats, federal attorneys and miscellaneous +high-level bureaucrats. They all represent, in essence, the arms +of the President. They are appointed by him, and he is ultimately +accountable for their performance as they carry out the +instructions of Congress. + +Various laws and standards have evolved over the years to define +which actions Congress must approve and which others can be left +to Executive discretion. In the case of transfers of public land +between government agencies, the boundary is specific: The Engle +Act of 1958 decrees that congressional approval is required for +new defense-related withdrawals of 5000 acres or more. Since the +Freedom Ridge withdrawal is only 4000 acres, the decision about +whether to approve it need not be referred to Congress. + +The lingering question is, if Congress does not make the decision +on this withdrawal, then who does? And on what basis do they make +it? Is it possible that the decision HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE by the +Executive Branch and that the application process is only a +formality? Maybe NO ONE makes a decision: Is the mere fact that +the Air Force has asked for the land sufficient reason for it to +be granted? + + ----- EXECUTIVE POWER ----- + +BLM does not decide. It seems primarily concerned with processing +the application itself. BLM is like the secretary in a college +admissions office who receives applications in the mail, creates +folders for them, verifies transcripts and collates SAT scores. +The steps that BLM must follow are defined in excruciating detail +in federal regulations and its own established procedures. It +must require the completion of certain environmental reports--and +officials agonize over which ones. It must collect public +comments, and search through these for any possible environmental +or land use implications. It must verify that the proposed action +is consistent with land management framework plans and other +obscure bureaucratic documents. Like the secretary in the +admissions office, BLM can sideline the application if certain +paperwork is not properly completed, but it does not make any +judgment about the material it is processing. BLM's job is to +prepare the case file for submission to a higher deciding +authority. + +According to Federal Code, "The Federal Land Policy and Management +Act of 1976 (43 USC 1714) gives the Secretary of the Interior +general authority to make, modify, extend or revoke withdrawals." +In short, Secretary Bruce Babbitt is responsible for the final +decision on the Freedom Ridge withdrawal. Babbitt is a political +appointee of the President. He exercises some of the President's +discretion to make day-to-day operating decisions without referral +to Congress. + +Babbitt, it might appear, can do anything he wants. He does not +have to obtain the approval of the American people or even the +President before granting the withdrawal. It does not matter if +his decision is unpopular. He is a manager who has been entrusted +with the power to do these things, and managers have to upset +people sometimes. He can weigh the pros and cons of an action and +use his own judgment to decide what is best. His word is the +final say. + +In reality, though, Babbitt's discretion is much more constrained +than it seems. He cannot make a decision, as we suggested in +DR#13, "by voodoo and sorcery, by studying the entrails of +sacrificed animals." Only Congress can do that. As the nation's +highest lawmaking body, Congress can make a decision for any +reason it chooses, a prerogative it exercised in 1987 when it +approved the 89,000 acre Groom Range withdrawal. Just because +Congress accepted the vague reasons given by the AF back then does +not mean that the same reasons are sufficient for the Secretary of +the Interior now. + +Unlike Congress, every Executive agency is constrained by a +million different laws, rules and ethical guidelines. Because the +Executive Branch has so much power that could be easily abused, +enormous rule-making effort has been expended over the years in +assuring that every decision made by an Executive agency at least +APPEARS to be fair and objective. Hence all the explicit rules +that BLM must follow when processing the withdrawal application. +The aim is to assure that all the relevant evidence has been +collected before the Secretary makes his decision. When he does +make a decision, a lot of people are bound to be unhappy, and +having followed the established guidelines allows the Secretary to +claim that he was at least working from a solid base of data. + +The Secretary is allowed to make unpopular decisions, but he +cannot make ones that are "arbitrary and capricious"--that is, +which are made without a basis in some sort of data. Fundamental +to government ethics is the openness of that data. In accordance +with this country's open records laws, any citizen should be able +to inspect the same files and evidence that the Secretary bases +his decision upon, at least to assure that there isn't some +obvious conflict of interest or an error in the data. The +Secretary has a right to make bad decisions or decisions that +favor his political philosophy, but he cannot make decisions from +a secret pool of information that is not available to the general +public. If he does, he and his decision will be legally and +politically vulnerable. + +There are only a few exceptions to the openness requirement, and +one of these is "national security." The Executive Branch +regularly makes decisions based on classified information. If the +U.S. invades Haiti, for example, how and when the invasion occurs +will depend to a large extent on secret intelligence about +defenses there. Because revealing the details of this data might +jeopardize its source, the military need not make it public. + +At first glance, the Freedom Ridge withdrawal might seem to fall +into the same category. The existence of the Groom base is +classified and its continued secrecy is--in the minds of the +military--essential to national security. If the public release +of any information about the base would, in military eyes, +compromise the safety of the nation, it is possible that this +information can be presented to the Secretary of the Interior in +secret. Even though the public does not have access to this data, +the Secretary can still use it as the basis for his decision. + +Such a provision does indeed exist in the law governing +withdrawals. According to 43 CFR 2300.1-2, the withdrawal +application must specify.... + + "(7) The public purpose or statutory program for which the +lands must be withdrawn. If the purpose or program for which the +lands would be withdrawn is classified for national security +reasons, a statement to that effect shall be included..." + +Unfortunately, the Air Force failed to include that statement in +its application. Their full and only written response to Item #7 +is... + + "(7) The purpose of the withdrawal is to ensure the public +safety and the safe and secure operation of activities in the +Nellis Range Complex." + +If the Air Force had made the statement that the purpose was +classified, then the Secretary could presumably make use of +classified information in his decision. The Air Force could +present its case to Babbitt in secret; Babbitt could make his +decision based upon it, and citizens who objected might be +powerless to appeal. + +However, as it stands, there is no hint in the application that +there is any classified information or facilities involved. The +Air Force can't have it both ways. It can't choose to pursue an +open process and still expect the Secretary to consider classified +information. The Air Force's position presented in the +application is the same as it is in public: They know nothing +about any classified facility, and even if it exists it has +nothing to do with this withdrawal. Bound by ethical constraints +to act only the data actually found in the application, the +Secretary must respect the Air Force's public position and cannot +consider the Groom Lake base at all. + + ----- THE BURDEN OF PROOF ----- + +This land, along with all other public lands in this country, has +been designated by Congress for the purpose of "public multiple +use." The public is ENTITLED to access to this land unless a +solid case can be presented that some other purpose is more +important. The decision of whether a certain military purpose is +more important than public use is a discretionary judgment by the +Secretary, but there still has to be a well-defined purpose, +supported by some kind of data. The Secretary cannot simply +rubber-stamp whatever request the Air Force makes; that would be +"arbitrary and capricious." He has to make a real, active +decision about whether this withdrawal makes sense, and he has to +make it based on the public information actually presented in the +application. + +Has the Air Force presented a strong case to justify its need for +this land? Has it presented a compelling set of data? + +What evidence has the Air Force presented that the "public safety" +is currently at risk? The Air Force has not presented even a +SINGLE INCIDENT where a person's safety has been placed in danger +by visiting those hills. If the Air Force has other definitions +of "public safety" in mind, it has not presented any data in +support of these either. + +What evidence has the Air Force presented that leaving the land +public jeopardizes the "safe and secure operation of activities in +the Nellis Range Complex"? The most informative statement in this +regard was made by Col. Bennett at the Caliente hearing: + + "When someone is on White Sides and other nearby areas, +altitude and route changes have to be made by aircraft to avoid +harming people and to prevent disclosure of operational matters. +Some missions have to be delayed or canceled. This impacts the +effective use of the Nellis Range Complex." + +This could indeed be a valid argument for the withdrawal if it was +backed up by concrete examples. Unfortunately, the Air Force has +not been able to produce even a SINGLE CASE where some flight was +delayed or rerouted due to visitors being on the ridge. It has +not even presented a POSSIBLE case where a flight might be so +affected in the future. + +In short, the Air Force has presented no data whatsoever. In +support of its application, the AF has submitted only some vague +and general arguments about the importance of a strong national +defense and the value of the Nellis Range in training pilots. It +has presented only empty words, expressing noble emotions but +conveying no information. It seems to have assumed the role of +defendant who is "innocent until proven guilty," who need present +no argument in his defense as long as the prosecution can't prove +its case against him "beyond a reasonable doubt." No opponent has +been able to prove that the withdrawal will have a significant +environmental impact. It won't. No opponent has been able to +prove that the Air Force's reason for withdrawing the land is NOT +valid--but that's because the AF has presented no specific +argument that could be refuted. The Air Force is playing coy and +pretending that the responsibility is on the citizen to prove it +wrong, when, in fact, the burden is the other way around. + +Is the Air Force entitled to any block of public land simply +because it asks for it? The logical answer has to be no. If it +can take the Freedom Ridge parcel without a supported reason, THEN +IT CAN TAKE ANY 5000 ACRE PARCEL ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. If the +military takes only one or two blocks of land in each Western +state, the total could amount to over 100,000 acres in aggregate, +and the taking doesn't have to stop there. By attaching a variety +of different nonsense reasons to Item #7 of the applications, the +Air Force could conceivably withdraw ALL PUBLIC LANDS IN THE +COUNTRY, without the approval of Congress and without being +required to provide any evidence of need. + +Why the AF wants the land is no mystery to the world: It wants to +keep visitors off the viewpoints that overlook its unacknowledged +Groom Lake base. It feels that sensitive operations at the base +would be jeopardized if their existence is made public. This may +indeed be a valid and supportable reason, but it has never been +presented. The Secretary of the Interior and his staff have +probably read the many news reports about Groom Lake and from this +have a good idea why the military wants the land, but as far as +the application is concerned, this is only unconfirmed rumor and +hearsay--no more admissible here than in a court of law. If the +AF wants the problems of the Groom Lake base to be considered in +the Secretary's decision, it must present this data explicitly. +The Secretary of the Interior cannot be required to "read minds," +and his ethics are suspect if he does. If he chooses to rely, +without public notice, on secret data the public cannot challenge, +he has stepped outside the boundaries of his authorized +discretion. + +If the Air Force had presented almost ANY plausible data in +support of the application, then the Secretary could cite it as a +basis for his decision, and the withdrawal could go through. With +no evidence at all presented, the Secretary cannot possibly +approve the withdrawal without seeming "arbitrary and capricious" +--doing it only because the Air Force asked. Logically, he has no +choice in the matter, and no value judgment is involved: The +withdrawal application cannot be approved as it stands now. + + ----- WHAT NOW? ----- + +About a month from now, in mid-Sept., the Las Vegas BLM office is +expected to issue its findings in the limited areas it is +qualified to evaluate. It will probably conclude that this +withdrawal presents no significant environmental or land use +impacts. If this were a less contested action, we sense that the +"No Significant Impact" finding would have been the equivalent of +an approval recommendation. The state and national BLM directors +would have rubber-stamped the application, and Babbitt would have +authorized the withdrawal with little more than a cursory +examination of what he was signing. + +We don't want that to happen in this case. "No Significant +Impact" does not imply that the decision-making process is over. +It has, in fact, only just begun. We want to make it clear to +Babbitt that a real decision now rests on his shoulders. +Normally, the application would likely be approved, because that's +the easiest thing for the Secretary to do. Not approving it could +create inter-agency tensions and internal dissent within the +Cabinet. To counteract this natural tendency toward approval, we +must make sure there is equivalent pressure from the outside to +hold back. We want Babbitt to understand that approving the +application as it is will create political tensions and legal +burdens from outside the Executive Branch that will fall squarely +on Interior, not on the Air Force where they belong. + +Through its own bad decisions about how to handle Area 51, the Air +Force has painted itself into a corner. Scandals are brewing here +that could drag on for years, and the AF has placed itself in a +position where it cannot adequately defend itself. It has trapped +itself into supporting an absurdity, and its public relations and +congressional rapport may suffer as a result. If Interior +approves the application, it will, in effect, be volunteering to +share the Air Force's burdens. It, too, must defend the +absurdity, and it could be vulnerable for its decision in ways +that the Air Force isn't. Handling the inevitable protests and +appeals and justifying its action to the press and members of +Congress could soak up valuable resources that are needed to fight +Interior's own battles. Interior has no interest in secret bases. +It is preoccupied with contentious land reform battles in the +West, and this tiny but highly publicized withdrawal only fans the +flames and makes it harder to get things done. + +[CONTINUED IN NEXT DOCUMENT] +[Part 2 of Groom Lake Desert Rat #14. Continued from previous +document.] + + ----- WHERE TO WRITE ----- + +There's no sense wasting any more of your toner cartridge on BLM. +The most effective pressures on Babbitt cannot come from below, +they have to come laterally, from the only people who can make the +Secretary sweat. Now is the time to write to some key senators +and congressmen. + +Maybe you've written to them before. Each member of Congress must +receive dozens or hundreds of letters a day, most of which +probably generate a courteous reply and then are promptly filed in +the "Wacko" bin. Most letters are ignored because most people +don't make realistic requests. If the letters received by BLM are +any gauge, most are rambling, impassioned harangues without a +clear goal and with little understanding about the political +process and what it is the recipient can act upon. + +The most effective letters to Congress focus on a simple, well- +defined problem and request a specific action from the congressman +that he can reasonably carry out. In this case, it is probably +not productive to dwell on government accountability, defense +priorities or other complicated issues. Don't ask the congressman +to try to reform the military; that is unrealistic. Keep your +letter short, courteous and very limited in scope, something like +this... + + "Dear Representative Smith, + + "I am concerned about the pending Air Force land withdrawal at +Groom Lake, Nevada, and its implications for military land use in +our own state. The military may indeed be justified in taking +this land, which overlooks their secret air base. My main concern +is the vague and unsubstantiated purpose they have given for this +withdrawal: 'For the public safety and the safe and secure +operation of activities.' I am worried that if the military is +granted this land for this vague reason, then it could easily +expand its bases in our state in the same manner, without having +to demonstrate need. + + "Interior Secretary Babbitt will be making a decision on the +withdrawal within the next few weeks. The military is pressuring +the Dept. of Interior to approve the current application without +change. I hope that you can contact Babbitt's office as soon as +possible to apprise yourself of the situation. We must be sure +that this withdrawal is approved only within the bounds of +established ethical guidelines and reasonable expectations of +proof." + +If you live in a Western state, where most public lands are +located, the dangers of unsubstantiated military withdrawals +should be of direct interest to your congressman. If you live in +an Eastern state, your congressman will probably be indifferent. +In that case, it is better to write to the members of +congressional land use committees. + +The addresses for senators and representatives are... + + The Honorable John Q. Smith + U.S. Senate + Washington, DC 20510 + + ("Dear Senator Smith...") + + The Honorable Jane R. Smith + U.S. House of Representatives + Washington, DC 20515 + + ("Dear Representative Smith...") + +Most members of Congress also maintain offices in the major cities +of your state. Look up their name in the phone book for that +address, then send your letter to both. + +The address for the land use committees and the person to address +are... + + Subcommittee on Public Lands, + National Parks and Forests + SD-308 Dirksen Senate Office Building + Washington DC 20510 + + Chairman: Senator Dale Bumpers + + Subcommittee on National Parks, + Forests and Public Lands + 812 O'Neill House Office Bldg. + Washington, DC 20515 + + Chairman: Representative Bruce F. Vento + +Here are some guidelines for an effective letter: + +-- Write to your OWN senators and congressman first, at least if +you live in a Western state. Letters to out-of-state +representatives are less effective, since they don't need your +vote. + +-- Be courteous and observe the polite forms of address. + +-- Remember that your letter will be read by a tortured aide who +is required to read dozens of others. To be noticed among all +that rambling verbiage, the letter must be short and concise. IT +SHOULD NOT EXCEED ONE PAGE. + +-- Do not express anger or outrage; it won't get you anywhere. +Stick to the facts, and don't offer anything more than "concern." + +-- Make your comments specific to the person you are writing to. +Point out how this land use case will directly affect his state. +If you live in a Western state, you could mention a specific base +within your state that might be expanded if the military is given +carte blanche. + +-- Do not attack the military. Members of Congress generally +support the military and tend to tremble and fold whenever the +term "national security" is used. Don't bother with government +accountability arguments either; they will only clog up your +letter and dilute your message. Stick with this one specific land +use problem. + +-- Do not ask your representative to tell Babbitt what to do. You +are asking only that he "look into" the situation to be sure the +proper procedures are followed. The withdrawal application is +naturally weak and could fall apart on its own if only we can get +enough eyes looking at it. If we draw enough congressional +attention to this one simple issue, then they could catch on to +the more complex accountability problems as well. + +After you write to your own congressional delegation or the +subcommittee chairman (or both), it doesn't hurt to write directly +to Babbitt... + + The Honorable Bruce Babbitt + Secretary of the Interior + Dept. of the Interior + 1800 "C" St., NW + Washington, DC 20240 + + (Dear Secretary Babbitt...) + +If you wish, you can contact us for a list of the individual +members of the land use committees, who might also warrant a +letter. + + ----- INTEL BITTIES ----- + +CAMPBELL ARRAIGNMENT DELAYED. Glenn Campbell's arraignment on +obstruction charges has been postponed by the county District +Attorney from Aug. 3 to Aug. 24. Campbell was arrested on July 19 +for interfering in the warrantless seizure of a news crew's +videotapes. KNBC-TV of Los Angeles still has not received their +tapes back, although they insist they did not photograph the +secret base. Campbell says he will plead "absolutely one hundred +percent not guilty," and he had already requested a jury trial. + +AUG. 27-28 OUTING. The FREEDOM RIDGE/TIKABOO PEAK FREE-SPEECH +ENCAMPMENT, as mentioned in DR#13, is going ahead as proposed. It +will be held Sat. and Sun., Aug. 27-28. (For those who cannot +make it on this date, a similar event may also be held Sept. 3-4.) +A notice about the camp-out has already been sent to DR +subscribers, and detailed instructions will be sent out by email +in a day or two. (Others may request this document by fax or +mail.) The general plan is to meet at the Freedom Ridge trailhead +at noon on Saturday, then spend the night on Freedom Ridge. On +Sunday, there will be a optional hike to Tikaboo Peak, the more +distant viewpoint that the AF isn't touching. An optional protest +will also take place: Participants are invited to bring "cameras" +to point at the base, although film is optional. The camp-out on +Freedom Ridge does not require a lot of gear. All you really need +is a sleeping bag, a ground cover and enough food and drink to +last a day. More details will be provided in the instruction +document. + +A GROOM PLAGUE? According to an article in the Aug. 9 Las Vegas +Review-Journal, a sheet metal worker for the EG&G subsidiary REECo +recently contracted hantavirus syndrome at an unspecified AF +facility within the "Nellis Air Force Range Complex" in Lincoln +County. It is apparently the first such case in Southern Nevada. +Not to be confused with the popular FLESH EATING BACTERIA, +hantavirus is the deadlier but less colorful disease that was +first recognized on Indian reservations and that has killed 42 +people so far. The virus is transmitted by contact with the +saliva, urine or droppings of infected rodents. Makes you wonder: +Could we have a bit of a SANITATION PROBLEM down there at the +unspecified facility? + + ===== SUBSCRIPTION AND COPYRIGHT INFO ===== + +(c) Glenn Campbell, 1994. (psychospy@aol.com) + +This newsletter is copyrighted and may not be reproduced without +permission. 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Also available by WWW to +http://alfred1.u.washington.edu:8080/~roland/rat/desert_rat_index. +html + +Current direct circulation: 1302 copies + +The mail address for Psychospy, Glenn Campbell, Secrecy Oversight +Council, Area 51 Research Center, Groom Lake Desert Rat and +countless other ephemeral entities is: + HCR 61, Box 38 + Rachel, NV 89001 USA + +### + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2852.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2852.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5ec6ffae --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2852.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,881 @@ + +SUBJECT: FROM A REPORTER WHO WORKS OUT NEAR AREA 51 FILE: UFO2852 + + + +PART 2 + + + +THE GROOM LAKE DESERT RAT. An On-Line Newsletter. +Issue #15. Sept. 2, 1994. + -----> "The Naked Truth from Open Sources." <----- +AREA 51/NELLIS RANGE/TTR/NTS/S-4?/WEIRD STUFF/DESERT LORE +Written, published, copyrighted and totally disavowed by +psychospy@aol.com. See bottom for subscription/copyright info. + +In this issue... + SUBTLETIES OF THE TELEVISION TALK SHOW, PART I + NEW AIR FORCE STATEMENT ON GROOM + EG&G TO ABANDON TEST SITE + JANET "N" NUMBERS + JANET HANDOFF FREQUENCIES + GROOMSTOCK '94 + SOUND FAMILIAR? + CAMPBELL ARRAIGNED + LARRY KING NOT CLONED? + MYSTERIOUS SIGN DISAPPEARANCE + INTEL BITTIES + +[Note: This file ends with "###".] + + ----- MEDIA COMMUNICATIONS 103A ----- + +SUBTLETIES OF THE TELEVISION TALK SHOW, PART I + +In DR #10, we reviewed the major news media--print, radio and +television--and showed how each could twist reality in their own +special way. Strictly for the sake of science, Psychospy allowed +himself to be turned into a minor media celebrity so we could +report to our readers the sometimes dubious processes behind the +scenes. There was a limit, however, to how low we would sink in +the pursuit of knowledge. We would not take off our clothes for +the camera, and we would not place ourselves in any situation +where our credibility, reputation or dignity could be seriously +trashed. + +Now we can report that this barrier has been broken. In the next +two issues of the Rat we will recount our first-hand experiences +with the lowest form of mass media, the television talk show. + + ..... THE MEDIUM OF TALK ..... + +Talk shows come in three basic formats. The rarest but most +respectable is the SERIOUS ISSUES talk show exemplified by "Meet +the Press," "Nightline" and the roundtable discussions on PBS-- +maybe even "Larry King Live." They are dignified and serious, +explore meaningful political and societal issues, and hardly +anyone watches them. + +The next rung down the ladder--vapid but benign--is the CELEBRITY +CHAT talk show, like the "The Tonight Show," "Late Show with David +Letterman" and "Arsenio Hall." Movie stars and Big Money authors +pump their latest work in a non-confrontational environment +designed only to promote laughs. + +The last and lowest form of the genre is the HUMAN CONFLICT talk +show. These syndicated programs always bear the name of the host, +like "Oprah," "Geraldo," "Vicky" or "Leeza." He or she is a +charismatic and camera-loving character, no doubt ruthless in real +life, but blessed with the ability to convey warmth and sincerity +on TV. The fodder for these shows is a steady diet of human +suffering, crises, angst and tragedy. Former spouses and +estranged friends face off against each other; grown men and women +reveal to the parents their until-now-hidden perversities, and +human oddities of all shapes and sizes present themselves for +humiliation before a nationwide audience. The ultimate goal of +these shows is the public expression of private feelings. They +seek tears, anger, jealousy and graphic self-immolation recorded +by the camera on a tight close-up. With a dozen such shows now in +syndication, the competition is intense to seek out new forms of +conflict and expose the latest narcissistic trends. + +Talk shows are produced "live on tape" with minimal editing, and +this presents special problems for a guest. In other forms of +television, sound bites rule the show. It may seem artificial, +but tight editing at least assures that each party has their say +and only their finest bon mot will be used. The courteous speaker +with a few good ideas can confidently compete with any +extravagant, microphone-hogging blowhard, because most of what the +blowhard says will be cut. In the almost-live talk show, the more +reasonable speaker has to compete with the blowhard head on. +There is no time for an orderly presentation of evidence; he who +makes the most outrageous, confident and colorful claims, +groundless or not, gains the camera's eye and controls the game. + +If you have any shred of personal dignity and are asked to be a +guest on a Human Conflict show, the best response is obvious: +"Just Say No." Unless you are a masochist or a natural born +actor, there is no way you can win in this format. We know it +now; we knew it then, but sometimes, like Oedipus, you just can't +stop the inevitable march of Fate.... + + ..... ONWARD TO HUMILIATION ..... + +The path to our own downfall was indirect. For several months, a +number of journalists have been making the pilgrimage to Freedom +Ridge, and we generally escort them as a sort of local public +relations representative. We do not charge for this service, and +we do not discriminate between journalists. If TASS or Penthouse +or the Podunk Review came to call, we would treat them no +differently than the New York Times. + +In May, we got a call from a producer from the Montel Williams +Show, one of the Human Conflict shows that we had never seen. It +seems that "Montel," as he is known to the world, had promised on +an earlier talk show that he would visit the border of Area 51. +We told the producer that we would be willing to escort Montel and +his crew to Freedom Ridge to tape a segment, but we declined an +offer to come to New York to appear on the studio show. Montel's +visit was originally scheduled for May 5 but was canceled at the +last minute, and we breathed a sign of relief. + +In August, the project was reactivated, we suspect as the result +of the June 22 article in the New York Times. Montel's visit was +scheduled for Aug. 16, and we were again asked if we would go to +New York to appear on the later show. Again, we declined. + +When Montel came to Rachel, he brought a Humvee, his producers and +a film crew. We went through the usual script for the camera: +Montel drives up to our Research Center, and we meet him in the +driveway. Inside, we show him where we are going on the map, then +we get in the car and drive the rugged road to Freedom Ridge. We +had done it before with countless crews, but never so quickly and +in so few "takes." When Montel arrived, there was no question +that he was in charge. He asked no significant questions, and +showed no particular interest in the secret base itself. We +sensed that he came only because he said he would and that his +primary aim was to film a sound bite on the ridge that said, "You +see, I did what I promised." + +As we rode down from Freedom Ridge in the Humvee with Montel and +the producer, we were again asked if we would come to New York to +appear on the talk show the following week, Aug. 23. We hesitated +and were about to turn down the offer cold, when the producer +uttered the only horrible words that could force us to comply. + +Sean David Morton. + + ..... THE EMBODIMENT OF EVIL ..... + +We first learned of Sean Morton over two years ago, before we came +to Rachel. We had heard his enthusiastic endorsement of the Black +Mailbox on a UFO video: + + "Probably the most amazing thing about Area 51 is the fact that +this is literally the only place in the world where you can go out +and actually see flying saucers on a timetable basis. You can +literally go out there on a Wednesday night between about seven +and one a.m. and you'll see these things flying up and down the +valley. It's absolutely amazing. On even a bad night you'll have +ten, eleven, twelve sightings. On a good night--and I've been out +there with friends of mine camping--on a good night the sky will +just rip open with these things. You'll see anywhere between +twenty to forty objects in a night testing over the base for +anywhere from fifteen and forty minutes at a time." + +We've lived near the border for over a year and a half now, are +genuinely interested in UFOs and have spent countless days and +nights in the desert; yet we haven't seen even ONE flying saucer, +let alone scores. The logical explanation is that we arrived too +late, after the saucers had been packed up and moved elsewhere. +The trouble with this theory is that during the early part of our +tenure, Sean Morton continued to bring tours to the area--at $99 a +head--and reported UFOs everywhere. + +In one celebrated incident in March 1993, Psychospy spent the +night on White Sides, overlooking Groom Lake, with some aviation +watchers and a writer from Popular Science. We were looking for +the alleged Aurora spyplane--almost as ephemeral as flying +saucers--but we saw nothing more than a few satellites, some +distant aircraft strobes and an occasional meteor. The following +was reported in the March 1994 Popular Science.... + + "Last March, three chilly airplane watchers with binoculars +atop White Sides Mountain at this magic hour [4:45am] were +tracking a 737 airliner approaching Groom Lake, as a fourth member +of their group thawed out in his truck below. Parked on a knoll, +he was next to a vanload of UFO seekers. They were lead by tour +operator Sean Morton, whose leaflet described him as 'the world's +foremost UFO researcher.' + + "Morton donned a horned Viking helmet and from time to time +pointed to the sky, exclaiming: 'Look at that one!' The airplane +watcher trained his binoculars in the same direction but saw +nothing out of the ordinary. Later, Morton's group became excited +by what they perceived as an entire formation of UFOs; the +airplane watcher's lenses revealed only stars. Finally, as the +morning's first 737 made its gentle approach toward Groom Lake at +4:45, the UFO enthusiasts rejoiced at Old Faithful's appearance. +Everyone had seen exactly what they hoped for." + +In the beginning, when we were new to the area, we were generous +to Sean and called him "fantasy prone." As we got to know him +better and gained confidence in our own knowledge base, we came to +mince no words. Sean is a deliberate con man. He recognizes as +well as us the landing lights of a 737, but he knows that others +can be fooled and taken for a $99 ride to see them. If anyone is +spreading disinformation about Area 51, filling the air with noise +to make the truth harder to grasp, it isn't sinister government +agents; it's Sean David Morton pursuing only his own greed and +self-aggrandizement. + +We have worked hard over the past 18 months to undo the damage +Sean has done and displace him from the Area 51 scene. +Discrediting Sean isn't complicated: We simply quote his own +words whenever we can. Sean is a broadly diversified charlatan, a +self-proclaimed expert in faith healing, earthquake prediction, +psychic prophesy and virtually every other New Age fad. We have +no problem at all with him plying his trade within the confines of +the state of California where he justly belongs, but when he +proclaims himself the foremost authority on Area 51, we get +territorial. We hope that our "Area 51 Viewers Guide" has reduced +the gullibility of newcomers and made the environment less +attractive for leeches like him. In fact, we haven't had a +confirmed Morton sighting near the border in over a year. We +heard from sources in California that he no longer gave tours to +Area 51 because the saucers had been moved elsewhere--which was +fine by us. + +The saucers must have returned, however. As the recent Groom Lake +publicity reached its peak, "The World's Foremost UFO Researcher" +could not help but resurface to suck energy from it. In recent +months, reports began to reach us that he had appeared as an Area +51 expert at UFO conferences, on radio talk shows and on the +Montel Williams Show. + +In the latter appearance, which was first broadcast in December +1993, Sean showed video footage of nighttime "UFOs" that he said +he photographed "at great risk to my own life." As we viewed them +later, one clip showed an isolated circle of light jumping around +within the frame. It could have been any stationary out-of-focus +light shot through a hand-held video camera. Notches seen on the +top and bottom of the "disk" correspond to protrusions inside the +lens assembly. In the other clip, only slightly out of focus, we +saw the lights of a 737 landing on the Groom Lake airstrip. To +Sean, it was "an object actually coming in from space." The time +stamp in the corner said "4:49 am." + +It was on this show that Montel promised to visit Area 51 escorted +by Sean; yet when Montel finally made the trip eight months later, +Sean was not invited. The producer told us that word had reached +him from many sources that Sean was considered a fraud, that in +addition to UFOs he also did psychic prophesies and that his +claimed credentials were highly dubious. He and Montel felt that +Sean had taken advantage of them and that by having him on the +show they had inadvertently legitimized him. + +But none of that prevented them from inviting him back as a guest +the second studio show. + +As we rode down in the Humvee from Freedom Ridge with Montel and +the producer, the reality to us became crystal clear: If we did +not appear on the Montel Williams Show, then Sean would have the +stage all to himself and could continue to spread any sort of +nonsense about Area 51. We felt that we had no choice. Either we +did battle with this guy now, before he grew bigger, or we would +be cleaning up his mess for many months to come. + + ..... OUR RAPID EDUCATION ..... + +We had less than a week to prepare for the big show--nowhere near +enough time to do all the research we needed. The first item of +business was to actually watch the Montel Williams Show and +familiarize ourselves with the format. We cranked up our +satellite dish and surfed through the channels. On "Donahue": +"Six Year Olds Who Sexually Harass Other Six Year Olds." On +"Rolanda, a related topic: "Will Your Child Grow Up To Be A +Serial Killer?" On "The Vicky Show," we heard that Sean Morton +had just appeared as an expert on the prophesies of Nostradamus, +but we were unable to catch that one. + +The first Montel Williams Show we saw was, "Mistresses Who Want To +End The Affair." On the stage, three women disguised by dark +sunglasses explained why they had been attracted to married men. +We could only tolerate about ten seconds at a time of this show, +but when we tuned back, we found that the women had shed their +sunglasses and revealed their true identities. Presumably, they +had also revealed, or at least seriously compromised, the +identities of the men they had been having the affairs with. When +we tuned in again later, one of the three was having an angry +argument with a fourth female guest. We guessed that this was the +wife of one of the married men. + +A friend sent us a tape of Montel's original UFO show in which +Sean appeared as a "UFO Investigator" and Montel promised to +visit. The show included an abductee, a witness to the "Kecksburg +Incident," a former actress, WFUFOR Sean David Morton, a requisite +skeptic, a pro-UFO filmmaker and--as if you hadn't guessed--that +talk show regular Travis Walton. The show was conducted in the +"expanding chairs" format. It started out with two guests alone +on the stage, then more guests and chairs were added during each +commercial break until there were seven chairs and seven +squabbling speakers vying for attention on the platform. In this +format, attention is diluted with each new chair, so the people +who appear last, typically the skeptics, usually get only a few +seconds of airtime. During the free-for-all of a seven-person +debate, the camera always focuses on the most aggressive and +charismatic guest--i.e. Sean David Morton. + +The last chair to be filled was occupied by filmmaker Russ Estes, +who the on-screen caption said, "Does Not Believe In UFOs." This +is false. He is a disciplined UFO investigator who has devoted +his career to making films on the subject, as well as exposing +obvious frauds. What is true is that he "Does Not Believe In Sean +Morton." In his few seconds of air time, he raised doubts about +one of Morton's many fake credentials, his claimed "Doctor of +Divinity" degree. + +RUSS ESTES: "Montel, my biggest problem, and this is what I've +run into over and over again, is the quality of the individual who +is bringing me the message. You know, the-boy-that-cried-wolf +syndrome is phenomenal in this field. You get people out there +who are saying, I'm this, I'm that, and I hate to do this to you, +Sean, but here's a guy right here who claims to be the Doctor, +Reverend Sean David Morton. In his own biography, he claims to +have gotten his Doctor of Divinity at--excuse me, it will take me +one second...." + +SEAN MORTON: "Berachah University." + +RUSS ESTES: "Berachah University, Houston, Texas--the Berachah +Church. I called them. They don't have any type of degrees that +they give. They have Bible study at the best. He claims to have +attended University of Southern California...." + +MONTEL WILLIAMS: "So the point that you are making, Russ, is that +there's a problem with the messenger, so therefore the message is +not real." + +RUSS ESTES: "How can you believe the message if the people lie to +you from the start." + +SEAN MORTON: "The thing I'd like to point out about Mr. Estes +here is that if you don't like the message, you can shoot the +messenger, and it's obvious to me that in the UFO field, we do +this for free, we do this because we want to know the truth, +because we have seen something...." + +RUSS ESTES: "But does that mean you bogey up your credentials?" + +SEAN MORTON (angry): "That is not true. You are flat-out lying +to these people. I went to USC for four years." + +Just then, the debate was cut off by a sloppy edit, and Sean's USC +diploma appeared on the screen. + +After watching the tape, we contacted Russ Estes. He said that +the debate between he and Sean went on much longer than was shown +on the screen. "Live on tape" does not mean totally unedited. +This show went on for over two hours to obtain a one hour's worth +of material. Sometimes, whole shows are thrown out when they +don't work. Unfortunately, Estes made a misstep on the USC +degree. As it turns out, this is just about the only authentic +credential he has: a B.A. in Drama and Political Science. We +certainly believe the Drama part: It's the last degree he ever +needed. + +The Doctor of Divinity degree is still phony, but in the talk show +world, evidence counts for nothing; only emotions and presentation +matter. Sean walked away from the show as a brave and +knowledgeable crusader, legitimized by a promise from Montel to +take his tour, and with the implied invitation to reappear on the +show. Estes walked away alone, wasn't invited to return, and has +since had to live down the "Does Not Believe in UFOs" moniker. +Sean even had the delightful gall to send Estes a letter, through +the producers... + + --- + +Mr. Russ Estes +c/o Alex Williams [sic] +The Montel Williams Show +1500 Broadway Suite 700 +New York, New York, 10036 + +Dear Russ: + +I am going to assume that you are not a bold faced liar who is out +for some kind of warped revenge, or a person who is just trying to +make a buck off baseless slander. + +Let's try to solve this like gentlemen - enclosed is a copy of my +U.S.C. diploma. I have also called the school and my records are +intact. The rest of your "research" on me is equally faulty. + +I hope this solves out problem. If not, I have consulted my +attorney and any further slander directed toward me through your +video series or elsewhere, will result in action taken against +you. + +Yours Truly, +[BIG signature] +Sean Morton + + --- + +Things were beginning to look grim for Psychospy. With the time +of the taping drawing near, we hadn't even begun to scratch the +surface of Sean David Morton and his path of destruction. Talking +to our contacts, we saw that Sean had accumulated a vast audience +of intimate enemies, more than we could possibly contact. If Sean +sounds knowledgeable and occasionally has some meaningful +information, it is because he has ripped it off from others. We +were amused to find that there was even an reputable astrologer +who hated Sean, who felt that Sean had stolen his predictions and +passed them off as his own. + +It seemed a futile exercise anyway. We knew all the evidence in +the world wasn't going to matter when we actually faced off +against Sean on camera. We were leaving behind our own +comfortable medium of logic and data and stepping into his home +turf--the talk show--where presentation counts more than content. +We were obligated by our own ethics to speak only the simplest +truths and the cautious assertions supported by data. Sean David +Morton, bold faced liar that he is, faced no such constraints. He +could spout any lie he wanted to sound important and get himself +off the hook, and the only thing that mattered here was that he +said it with apparent sincerity and that it held up for +television's thirty second attention span. We knew that if we +started to make an accusation about him, he would instantly sense +the winds and make the same one against us with greater force. +The ensuing argument would make he and us appear to be equals. + +Sean knew all the buzzwords and cliches of the UFO movement and +could spout the conventional wisdom much faster than we could. He +knew how to sound sincere and reasonable and adapt instantly to +the sentiments of any social circumstance. He was well-practiced +at responding to inquisitions and had emerged from many without a +scratch. Opposing him, all we had was a body of mundane knowledge +about a very limited area of the desert. Sean was smooth and +well-honed in his talk show delivery, and we were stumbling in for +the first time to a medium where we really didn't want to be. + +It was with these reservations and a sense of dark foreboding that +we packed our bags and headed for New York City. There, in Times +Square, we expected a titanic battle between Good and Evil, and +things didn't look good for Good. + +[To be continued in Desert Rat #16....] + + ----- NEW AIR FORCE STATEMENT ON GROOM ----- + +The following statement was recently released to inquiring +journalists by the Nellis AFB public affairs office. (We +requested our own copy from Major George Sillia on Aug. 26.) It +represents a significant shift from the previous "We know nothing +about Groom Lake" response. + + "There are a variety of facilities throughout the Nellis Range +Complex. We do have facilities within the complex near the dry +lake bed of Groom Lake. The facilities of the Nellis Range +Complex are used for testing and training technologies, +operations, and systems critical to the effectiveness of U.S. +military forces. Specific activities conducted at Nellis cannot +be discussed any further than that." + +That's a step in the right direction. What the base needs now is +a name and a history. For example, tell us about the U-2 and A-12 +programs at Groom in the 1950s and 1960s. That's not very secret +or critical to our current defense, so what's the point in +pretending it is? Will the Air Force take control of the +situation and provide this information itself, or will the void be +filled by a dozen aggressive entrepreneurs? + +We'd bet our money on the entrepreneurs. + + ----- EG&G TO ABANDON TEST SITE ---- + +According to an 8/26 article in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, EG&G +and its REECo subsidiary will not seek renewal of their Nevada +Test Site contract when it expires in 1995. These are two of the +three companies that have managed the nuclear testing ground since +its inception. It is unclear whether this action will have any +affect on operations at the adjoining Groom Lake base, where EG&G +and REECo are also assumed to be major contractors. + +Recent rumors say that EG&G no longer operates the "Janet" 737 +jets that shuttle workers to Groom and Tonopah. That operation +has supposedly been taken over by the Air Force, using the same +aircraft and possibly the same staff. + + ----- JANET "N" NUMBERS ----- + +For aircraft watchers, here are the registration and serial +numbers of Janet 737s and Gulfstream commuter planes spotted at +the Janet terminal at McCarran airport. Based on observations in +5/94 and the 4/30/94 FAA registry. One or more of the Janet +aircraft are probably missing from this list. (We ask our readers +to find them.) + +Boeing 737... +Reg. #/Serial #/Owner +N4508W 19605 Great Western Capital Corp, Beverly Hills +N4510W 19607 Great Western Capital Corp, Beverly Hills +N4515W 19612 Great Western Capital Corp, Beverly Hills +N4529W 20785 First Security Bank of Utah, Salt Lake City +N5175U 20689 Dept. of the Air Force, Clearfield UT +N5176Y 20692 Dept. of the Air Force, Clearfield UT +N5177C 20693 Dept. of the Air Force, Clearfield UT + +Gulfstream C-12... +N20RA UB-42 Dept. of the Air Force, Clearfield UT +N654BA BL-54 Dept. of the Air Force, Clearfield UT +N661BA BL-61 Dept. of the Air Force, Clearfield UT +N662BA BL-62 Dept. of the Air Force, Clearfield UT + + ----- JANET HANDOFF FREQUENCIES ---- + +A DESERT RAT EXCLUSIVE! Published here for the first time are the +air traffic control frequencies for the "Janet" 737 crew flights +from Las Vegas McCarran Airport to Groom. The McCarran freqs are +public, but the Groom ones have not been revealed until now. Air +traffic control broadcasts are "in the clear" and any scanner +radio should be able to pick them up. Each of these freqs has +been personally confirmed by Psychospy or a close associate. + +121.9 McCarran Ground Control +119.9 McCarran Tower +133.95 Departure Control +119.35 Nellis Control +120.35 Groom Approach +127.65 Groom Tower +118.45 Groom Ground + +Here are some other Groom freqs (some of which were previously +reported in DR #8). The security frequencies are usually +scrambled, but not always. + +418.05 Cammo Dudes (primary) +408.4 Cammo Dudes (repeat of 418.05) +142.2 Cammo Dudes +170.5 Cammo Dudes (Channel 3) +138.3 "Adjustment Net" (seems related to security) +261.1 Dreamland Control (published) +255.5 Groom Tower (repeat of 127.65) +154.86 Lincoln County Sheriff +496.25 Road sensors on public land +410.8 Pager (apparently from Groom but unconfirmed) + +The most accurate way to detect a road sensor (AFTER you have +tripped it), is to program 496.25 into several channels of your +scanner, then scan those channels exclusively as you are driving. +When the scanner stops on one channel, you have just passed a +sensor. + + ----- GROOMSTOCK '94 ----- + +The "Freedom Ridge Free Speech Encampment" went pretty much as +planned, with at least sixty people in attendance but not all of +them staying for the night. There were no surprises and, sadly, +no confrontations with the authorities when we whipped out our +cameras and pseudo-cameras to point at the secret base. The Cammo +Dudes were visible but kept their distance, and the only authority +figure to show up on the ridge was a BLM Ranger in a Smoky-the- +Bear hat. He was concerned only that we clean up our trash, and +he warned us, by his very presence, that "Only You Can Prevent +Forest Fires." + +The event was recorded in an 8/29 article in the Las Vegas Review- +Journal, which dubbed it "Groomstock." [The article may be +available at the FTP site.] We were disturbed to read in the +paper that the attendees included some "marijuana-smoking +slackers." We called around and found out it was true and that it +happened after Psychospy went to bed. Had we known, we would have +quashed it immediately. This sort of thing discredits our ability +to police ourselves and hurts the reputation of the land grab +opponents. + +The hot gossip around the campfire was about the Review-Journal +reporter and the loony in the tie-dyed shirt. The loony had spent +about an hour moving rocks and dirt around to make himself a +comfortable bed, then he blew a conk-shell horn and banged cymbals +together to bless it. When the reporter arrived, he volunteered +to make a bed for her, too, not far from his own, and he proceeded +with the project without any encouragement. It is unknown why he +singled her out for this special honor, but evidently she was +"chosen." It should be noted, however, that while blessing the +reporter's bed, the loony accidentally dropped one of the cymbals. +We forget to check with the reporter in the morning to see if that +omen affected the quality of her nighttime experience. + + ----- SOUND FAMILIAR? ----- + +From an AP news story printed in the 8/5 Review-Journal... + + "PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti -- Authorities deported an American TV +crew Thursday, putting the three journalists in an open pickup +truck, parading them through the capital and then dumping them at +the Dominican border.... + + "Soldiers detained the freelance journalists for PBS's 'The +MacNeil/Lehrer Newshour' on Sunday while they were filming at +Port-au-Prince's airport. Three of their videotapes were +seized.... + + "The military-backed government has urged journalists not to +report 'alarmist' news and has attempted to restrict news +coverage.... + + "'I think it's deplorable, and it's obviously an attempt to +embarrass them,' [U.S.] Embassy spokesman Stanley Schrager told +The Associated Press. 'This treatment was not necessary; neither +was the deportation.... It's a transparent attempt by this +illegal regime to interfere with the free flow of information.'" + +In related news, the four of the five video tapes seized on July +19 from KNBC-TV have still not been returned. The tapes were +taken without a warrant after the crew filmed an interview on +Freedom Ridge but not the Groom base itself. Activist Glenn +Campbell, who accompanied the crew, was arrested when he attempted +to interfere with this seizure. + + ----- CAMPBELL ARRAIGNED ----- + +Activist Glenn Campbell reports that his Aug. 24 arraignment on +obstruction charges was "amicable." Charges were presented, but +the District Attorney did not appear. The complete text of the +charges, stemming from the July 19 KNBC incident, reads as +follows... + + --- + +Case No. P55-94 + +IN THE JUSTICE COURT OF THE PAHRANAGAT VALLEY TOWNSHIP +IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF LINCOLN, STATE OF NEVADA + +CRIMINAL COMPLAINT + +STATE OF NEVADA, Plaintiff, + vs. +GLENN P. CAMPBELL, Defendant. + +STATE OF NEVADA ) ss. +County of Lincoln ) + +DOUG LAMOREAUX, being first duly sworn and under penalty of +perjury, personally appeared before me and complained that on or +about the 19th of July, 1994, in Lincoln County, State of Nevada, +the above-named Defendant, GLENN P. CAMPBELL, committed the +following crime: + +COUNT 1 + +OBSTRUCTING PUBLIC OFFICER, a violation of NRS 197.1990 and LCC +1.12.010, a MISDEMEANOR, in the following manner: + +The Defendant did, then and there, after due notice, willfully, +hinder, delay or obstruct a public officer in the discharge of his +officer powers or duties. Specifically, the Defendant did, then +and there, after due notice, willfully hinder Sergeant Doug +Lamoreaux in the discharge of his official duties by locking the +doors of the vehicle which Sergeant Lamoreaux was retrieving +certain items from and further refused to unlock the doors after +being requested to do so by Sergeant Lamoreaux. + +All of which is contrary to the form of Statute in such cases made +and provided and against the peace and dignity of the State of +Nevada. The complainant, therefore, prays that a Warrant be +issued for the arrest of the Defendant, if not already arrested, +so that he may be dealt with according to law. + + [Signed] + DOUG LAMOREAUX + Sergeant + Lincoln County Sheriff's Department + +SUBSCRIBED and SWORN to before me +this 24th day of August, 1994 +[Signed] NOLA HOLTON +NOTARY PUBLIC/JUSTICE OF THE PEACE + + --- + +The only surprise in these charges is the line "and further +refused to unlock the doors after being requested to do so by +Sergeant Lamoreaux." That is not how Campbell recalls the +incident. DR#12, published less than 12 hours after the incident, +reported it as follows... + + "At this point Campbell, who had been standing on the opposite +side of the vehicle, reached in and pushed down the door locks on +the side that Lamoreaux was approaching. + + "Lamoreaux said, 'You're under arrest.' Campbell was +immediately handcuffed and placed in Deputy Bryant's vehicle." + +Campbell claims that Lamoreaux said, "You're under arrest," +IMMEDIATELY after he pushed down the door locks, with no request +being made to unlock them. Campbell says he has two other +witnesses, the KNBC crew, who can verify his story. In this case, +where the basic recollection of facts is in conflict, it will be +interesting to see what the second officer, Deputy Kelly Bryant, +will say under oath. + +However, the core of Campbell's defense rests on Constitutional +issues. He is guilty of obstruction only if the officer was +indeed engaged in the "lawful" execution of his duties. Lamoreaux +justified his warrantless search by citing, in vague terms, a +certain Supreme Court ruling, the name of which he could not +recall at the time. That ruling is apparently in the case "Ross +vs. U.S." which allows the warrantless seizure of "contraband" +from a vehicle when there is a danger of flight. It is unclear at +this point whether the video tapes of a news crew constitute +contraband in the same manner as a shipment of marijuana or stolen +merchandise. Complex First Amendment issues may be invoked. The +case may be further complicated by the repeated offer by the TV +reporter to allow Lamoreaux to view the video tapes himself. + +Campbell has requested, and has been granted, a jury trial. +According to the Justice, this will be the first jury trial held +in this court since about 1987. Campbell announced his intention +to represent himself at the trial, with possible legal co-council. +A tentative trial date of Oct. 25 has been set, but it is likely +to be postponed. Campbell indicated that he will waive his right +to a trial within 60 days to allow more time to conduct legal +research. + + ----- LARRY KING NOT CLONED? ----- + +Our report in DR#13 about the diversion of Larry King's plane to +Nellis AFB continues to disturb many of our readers. It raises +the specter of secret contacts between King and the military or +even a surreptitious replacement of the talk show host by a look- +alike clone. Now, we wonder if our panic was only a false alarm. + +A producer from a Las Vegas TV station tells us: "I checked into +it and think it is legit. According to the FAA, McCarran Airport +was never really closed, but they did have pilots choose not to +land on that Saturday afternoon because of inclement weather. +They also confirm that there is an agreement with Nellis to allow +planes in trouble to land there. I spoke to the control tower at +McCarran. They checked their records, and they indicate that on +that Saturday a nasty thunderstorm was noted by the tower at 1:45- +2:05. In fact, four takeoffs were delayed during that time due to +weather. Planes in the air just flew holding patterns until the +weather cleared." + +Presumably, King's plane didn't have enough fuel to maintain the +holding pattern. Thunderstorms can be very localized, and perhaps +Nellis was clear. A producer at Larry King Live says that, in her +opinion, he is definitely the same Larry King. She says he got +the military escort because he was late for a speaking engagement +and made his wants known on the plane. + +So what can we say? Obviously, the FAA, the TV station and the +King producer ARE PARTIES TO THE CONSPIRACY. This story is deeper +than it seems, and the Rat will pursue the investigation for as +long as it takes. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE. + + ----- MYSTERIOUS SIGN DISAPPEARANCE ----- + +The big "No Photography" signs on the Groom Lake Road have +disappeared. For over a year, they were installed on public land +about two miles from the military border, but sometime in the +first week of August they were cleanly removed, posts and all, +apparently by the Air Force. (A civilian thief--like SDM, who has +a number of these signs in his possession--would have simply +unscrewed the signs, not uprooted the heavy posts and carefully +filled up the holes.) The two signs on either side of the road +were each about 3 feet by 4 feet and bore the following text: + +WARNING: THERE IS A RESTRICTED MILITARY INSTALLATION TO THE WEST. +IT IS UNLAWFUL TO MAKE ANY PHOTOGRAPH, FILM, MAP, SKETCH, PICTURE, +DRAWING, GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THIS AREA, OR EQUIPMENT AT OR +FLYING OVER THIS INSTALLATION. IT IS UNLAWFUL TO REPRODUCE, +PUBLISH, SELL, OR GIVE AWAY ANY PHOTOGRAPH, FILM, MAP, SKETCH, +PICTURE, DRAWING, GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THIS AREA, OR +EQUIPMENT AT OR FLYING OVER THIS INSTALLATION. VIOLATION OF +EITHER OFFENSE IS PUNISHABLE WITH UP TO A $1000 FINE AND/OR +IMPRISONMENT FOR UP TO ONE YEAR. 18 U.S. CODE SEC. 795/797 AND +EXECUTIVE ORDER 10104. FOR INFORMATION CONTACT: + USAF/DOE LIAISON OFFICE + PO BOX 98518 + LAS VEGAS, NV 89193-8518 + +The signs first appeared in May 1993 shortly after WFAA-TV from +Dallas took video of the base from White Sides. (When challenged +by the Sheriff, they admitted photographing the base but managed +to retain their tape.) The signs were removed in Aug. 1994 +shortly after KNBC-TV from Los Angeles lost their video tape after +NOT photographing the base. It is unclear why the AF removed the +signs. Perhaps they have become a little smarter and are adopting +a "don't ask, don't tell" policy toward photography (but we +wouldn't want to be the ones to test that theory). The signs +themselves had become a tourist attraction, and no visitor could +resist having their picture taken beside them. + +At the same time the "No Photography" signs vanished, the +misplaced "Restricted Area" sign also went away. This is the +crossed out sign seen in the NYT article, where the "stupid +faggot" comment had later been written and then erased (DR#12,13). +God, we'll miss that sign! It was as illegal as hell--being on +public land--but an old friend to us nonetheless. + +At least now we can assure the public: If you see a Restricted +Area sign, it's real and they mean it. + + ----- INTEL BITTIES ----- + +ENCOUNTERS TRANSCRIPT. Complete, unedited transcripts (not just +the sound bites) of the interviews in the 7/22 Encounters show +(DR#10) are available to Compuserve users. Type GO ENCOUNTERS, +and look under "Browse Libraries" and "Interview Transcripts." +Interviews include Rep. James Bilbray (file FREED2.105), Agent X +(FREED1.105) and Glenn Campbell (FREED3A.105, FREED3B.105). This +is a transcript for video editing, so every "Um" and "Ah" is +recorded. + +NEW GUARD FACILITY. We send our congrats to the Dudes on their +newly constructed prefab building next to the guard house on Groom +Lake Road (about a half mile inside the border). Apparently, they +are expecting more business along this part of the border and need +a new substation. Interested taxpayers can view the new building +from the first hill on the hiking trail to F.R. ("Hawkeye Hill"), +a location that will continue to be public even if F.R. is taken. + +UPCOMING TV SEGMENTS. UNSOLVED MYSTERIES will broadcast a show on +UFOs with a segment on Area 51 on Sunday, Sept. 18 at 8pm. The +broadcast will include a new interview with Bob Lazar. THE +CRUSADERS will broadcast a segment on UFOs, including a visit to +F.R., on Sept. 10 or 11 (date and time vary by city). Air date +for THE MONTEL WILLIAMS SHOW taped on Aug. 23 has not been +confirmed, but it could be the week of Sept. 12. + + ===== SUBSCRIPTION AND COPYRIGHT INFO ===== + +(c) Glenn Campbell, 1994. 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See bottom for subscription/copyright info. + +In this issue... + SUBTLETIES OF THE TELEVISION TALK SHOW, PART II + NEW BEN RICH BOOK + LAND GRAB UPDATE + OUR READERS RESPOND + INTEL BITTIES + +[Note: This file ends with "###".] + + ----- MEDIA COMMUNICATIONS 103B ----- + +SUBTLETIES OF THE TELEVISION TALK SHOW, PART II +(Continued from DR#15) + +[Montel William Show expected broadcast date: Monday, Sept. 19.] + +We feel guilty and owe our local readers an apology for suggesting +in DR#11 that if a major U.S. city had to be nuked by a terrorist +group, Las Vegas wouldn't make a bad target. That's not the way +we really feel. We only pretend to hate Las Vegas because it is +fashionable to do so; in truth it's quite a livable city once you +get to know it. Beyond the Strip, Vegas is a modern, efficient +metropolis in the Orange County, Calif., mold where it is easy to +get things done. The neon jungle can be easily avoided, but when +we choose to go there, it offers some of our favorite free +entertainment. Although we do not gamble, drink or go to shows, +we have always enjoyed the casinos for the insights they offer +into human nature. We find it endlessly amusing to wander through +the acres of slot machines observing small-brained visitors blow +away their hard earned savings on odds that are never in their +favor. Nowhere else in the world are the flaws of human +perception so obvious and easily studied. + +Our warm sentiments for Las Vegas, and subsequent guilt for +maligning it, were reawakened by our recent visit to New York +City, where we took part in an episode of the Montel Williams talk +show. We REALLY hate New York and really wouldn't mind if the +Sons and Daughters of Liberty took out Manhattan first. New York +illustrates what those small-brained Vegas visitors do with their +lives when they go back home. Packed by the millions into an area +about the size of the Tikaboo Valley, all personal space and human +dignity are taken away and then sold back to people at exorbitant +prices. Almost anywhere in the country would be a healthier, more +productive place to live; all it takes is a little initiative to +get up and go. Like the dumb clucks in front of the slot +machines, New Yorkers just sit there and keep dropping in +quarters. + +Haunting memories of humility and futility came flooding back to +us as our plane circled La Guardia airport in the rain waiting for +clearance to land. In a previous life we had made this trip many +times before, wearing a business suit (We break out in hives just +thinking about it.) and carrying a briefcase and umbrella (which, +dammit, we had forgotten this time). We were returning now like +Crocodile Dundee from the outback, carrying no coat and tie, only +our jolly swag. We didn't want to be here, but we had a job to +do. A mission. In Times Square, we were scheduled to face the +forces of evil--Sean David Morton--in what we expected to be a +talk show about Area 51. Sean was the con artist who conducted +tours of public land for $99, who passed off 737s as UFOs and who +had recently reemerged on the talk show circuit as a Groom Lake +expert. We felt that we had to engage the Doctor Reverend Morton +now, before he grew bigger and further muddied the waters that we +had worked so hard to clear. + +The producers of the talk show understood Sean as well as we did, +but chose to invite him back anyway. Sean could speak with +certainty about UFOs at Area 51, while we were still groping for +data and could only ask questions. Sean was there to make +extravagant claims, and we were there to shoot him down. The +conflict between us would create Entertainment, which is the +ultimate aim of the talk show format. + + ..... ARRIVAL ..... + +Our misgivings and painful memories aside, we felt like a Somewhat +Important Person when we arrived at the airport. Although we were +not paid for our appearance, airfare was provided by the show, +with a free stopover in Boston. As arranged a few days before, we +would be met by a driver who would take us to the posh Embassy +Suites Hotel in Times Square. The next morning, an escort would +meet us at our hotel and take us to the nearby studio. Upon +completion of the taping, we would receive our $50 per diem for +food and miscelanous expenses, then a private car would whisk us +back to the airport. We would be in and out of lovable old New +York in less than 24 hours. + +We felt like Donald Trump as we exited the airplane and were met +by our driver, holding up a sign with our name on it. He seemed +unclear about our destination, however, so we directed him to the +Embassy Suites. This was located in one of America's most +expensive blocks of real estate, directly fronting Times Square. +As we rode the elevator up to the spacious second floor lobby, we +tried to estimate the cost of a room here. In Vegas, a bed in a +classy joint like this could be had for $45 a night; here, we +suspected it was more like $250. We tried not to sound arrogant +and Grey Poupon-ish as we introduced ourselves to the desk clerk +as a guest of the Montel Williams Show. + +Alas, the clerk could find no reservation in our name, and some +embarrassed phone calls to the show determined that we were +staying not here, but at the Salisbury Hotel, an old "keyhole" +establishment wedged between clothing stores about 15 blocks +uptown and a corresponding number of notches downscale. Now don't +get us wrong: The Salisbury is very "nice." There's no lobby, +but comfortable rooms are offered at the reasonable rate of only +$110 per night. As Tom Bodett of Motel 6 says on the radio ads, +every motel's the same when you're sleep'n. The amenities +mattered even less to us on this trip since, in the Crocodile +Dundee spirit, we intended only to lay out our swag on the floor +and not muss up the pretty bed. Still, the Salisbury was not the +Embassy Suites, and the unannounced downgrading of our +accommodations could not help but start the wheels of paranoia +turning. + +From our room, we called Russ Estes in California, who had +challenged Sean Morton's credentials in the previous Montel +Williams show and was not invited back. He said that the same +thing had happened to him: He arrived at the Embassy Suites only +to find he had been downgraded to the Edison. "Looks like you're +being set up like I was," said Estes. He said that for his show, +they put Morton and the pro-UFO crowd in the Embassy Suites, and +without notice moved the skeptics and him into the downscale +Edison. "You know darn well where Sean is staying tonight," said +Estes. + +The walls of our room started closing in on us as we practiced our +lines. We knew we would have limited time on the air and would +have to get out our message early and with no mincing of words. +"I've lived near Area 51 for a year and a half and have known Sean +Morton and his work even longer, and I can tell you, without +reservation, Sean is a charlatan, a fraud and a phony. He'll tell +any sort of lie to make himself sound important." But wait, maybe +"charlatan" was too big a word for this audience. We had +previously considered and rejected "sociopath" as being too +upscale, while "victim of Munchausen syndrome" wasn't the proper +clinical term. (In diagnostic manuals, this disorder, named after +the tall-tale-telling baron, refers to the faking of medical +symptoms, not the broader compulsive lying we sought to convey.) +How about "a fraud, a phony, a liar and a con man"? That was +simple and direct enough for television, but was it too many +words? + +In a night of fitful sleep, we saw a stream of fevered images. In +one scene we are shirtless and bulked up to 250 pounds from years +of illegal steroid use. We point our beefy finger directly at the +camera and explode in anger: "Sean David Morton, I've taken +enough of your lies! You're a fake, a fraud and a phony. This is +the grudge match of the century, Sean David Morton, and when you +meet Psychospy in the ring, Saturday night, Madison Square Garden, +only one of us is going to come out of it alive!" + +In other scenes our bravado collapses. The Montel Williams Show +has prepared an ambush for us consisting of all our present and +former UFO enemies. In addition to Sean, they have flown in +conspiracy nutcase and "Old Faithful" promoter Gary Schultz, who, +after we challenged his takeover of a Rachel UFO conference, +accused us vaguely of child molestation--nonspecific as to time or +place. He would no doubt repeat those charges again on the air. +Next to him is competing nutcase and "Old Faithful" promoter Erik +Beckjord, who shows the audience dramatically enlarged photos of +"Old Faithful"--aircraft landing lights to us mortals--and points +out hidden alien messages in the big white blob. Fortunately, +Beckjord's hatred for Psychospy is tempered only by his violent +feuds with Mr. Schultz. Lastly, Montel is sure to welcome Lazar's +moronic gatekeeper, "Mr. Nasty" Gene Huff, who will sling his +usual creative epithets in our direction: "Prick! Dickhead! +Sicko-Spy! Goober! Leach!" (the latter being misspelled as +given). Not that we couldn't take on all these dim-wits at once +in any arena, but in the resulting fray, Sean Morton would pretend +to be the reasonable one and get away scot-free. + + ..... THE STUDIO .... + +When we awoke in the morning, we found ourselves, alas, still in +New York, seventeen stories above street level in a non-suicide- +protected room with Zero Hour rapidly approaching. No longer +trusting the staff of the show and unable to confirm that any +escort was coming for us, we took the subway to Times Square. The +studio was on the fourth floor above an older block of storefronts +in the corner of the square where religious zealots harangue +passers-by. + +We arrived, as requested, about three hours before the 11 am +taping. An associate producer briefly showed us the studio and +the audience warm-up room, then escorted us to "Green Room Number +One," which would be our home until we went on stage. The +floorplan reminded us of a miniature Roman Coliseum before a big +gladiatorial battle. In the middle was the studio, which is much +smaller than it appears on television. Arranged in a sloping, +arena-style format are chairs for a small audience--made to look +big by camera angle--facing a platform where the guests sit in +padded armchairs. Arrayed around the outside of the studio and +separated from it by soundproof walls, are a series of "Green +Rooms" where the guests are warehoused until they appear. Each +Green Room resembles a small living room with green carpeting on +the floor and walls and with a sofa and comfortable chairs facing +a television set. Our Green Room also contained an impressive +assortment of Pepperidge Farm cookies. We were not relaxed enough +to eat anything at the time, but we remembered to stuff our +traveling bag full of them for later consumption. + +Once you enter a Green Room, you are a prisoner there and cannot +leave without an escort. If you must go to the bathroom, you have +to inform a production assistant carrying a walkie-talkie. After +he gets clearance over the radio, he steps into the hallway and +furtively looks both ways before beckoning you to follow. He +waits for you outside the bathroom, then escorts you back, keeping +a constant eye on you to make sure you keep up and do not stray. + +In a program that actively seeks on-air conflict, careful +management of the Green Rooms is clearly a high priority. Guests +who are about to go to war with each other on the show shouldn't +be allowed to run into one another in the hallways. In many +shows, there will be surprise guests who the others won't be aware +of until they are revealed on the air, so the cat mustn't be let +out of the bag. In fact, Sean Morton didn't know that we were +going to be on the show until we suggested, foolishly, that +someone tell him. (Those impulsive ethics are always getting in +our way.) + +All of this plotting behind the scenes might have heightened our +own paranoia had we not been joined in our Green Room by two +representatives of sanity, the requisite UFO skeptic and his coach +from the New York Area Skeptics. The on-air skeptic was a first- +timer like us, but his coach was a veteran of several talk shows +and was refreshingly cynical about what we could hope to +accomplish. According to him, the skeptics--who Psychospy was +clearly classed among--are usually brought on last and are allowed +the least amount of airtime. If their arguments are too good and +they manage to demolish the principal guests, then the episode can +simply be thrown out and never aired. Even when a show airs, it +may still be edited, and when time is limited, the skeptic's words +are the first to go. + +As show time approached, we were visited in our Green Room by a +series of specialists. First came the make-up man, who kindly +took the sheen off our balding heads. Then came a woman with a +clipboard and a man with a video camera. On the clipboard was a +form we were asked to sign which said that we wouldn't sue the +producers no matter what happened on the show. After signing, we +were asked to state our names into the camera and say that we +agreed to the terms on the form. Montel himself also stopped in +briefly to greet us, and the head producer visited several times +to tell us what was happening. + +Soon, even in our sound-proofed Green Room, we began to hear the +roar of the crowd. Next door, the audience was being "warmed up" +for the show, with instructions on when and how to applaud and +when to keep quiet. Practicing their loudest and most +enthusiastic response, their thunder shook the coliseum walls. +The show was about the begin. + + ..... FREAK SHOW ..... + +Sitting on a comfortable sofa, drinking Pepsi and watching TV in +our Green Room, what we saw on the screen could have been any +midday talk show. We would have changed the channel if we could, +but we had to pay attention to this one because it was actually +taking place next door and we would be on it in a few minutes. +Montel Williams stood in the audience, and after the initial +enthusiastic applause, he announced that he had been to Area 51 +just as he promised. Then, after a commercial break, a clip was +shown from the previous broadcast: Montel promising Sean that he +would visit. When the clip was over, Montel said he would show +the tape from his recent trip later in the show, but first he had +guests to introduce. + +On the stage were two women: A young, attractive one, and an +older one with dark circles around her eyes that even makeup +couldn't hide. They were the abductees, the standard starting +point whenever a talk show does UFOs. As far as we were +concerned, these two could have come from Central Casting. We had +never seen them before, but we had seen people like them on other +shows, and we knew most of what they would say before they opened +their mouths. The attractive woman recounted how the aliens had +paralyzed her in her bed while her boyfriend slept undisturbed +beside here. Without her permission, the aliens touched and +prodded her naked body, first in gentle, caring ways and then in +ways that were not at all pleasant. She felt betrayed by the +ruder touches and would never trust the aliens again. + +The second woman, with the sunken eyes, said that she had been +abducted all of her life by many different kinds of aliens. She +had, in fact, killed a number of them. The aliens had implanted +tiny fetuses in her body and removed them three weeks later, +remarkably developed to the stage of three to four months. The +woman knew the fetuses weren't hers, because she previously had a +hysterectomy. (This raised snickers among our fellow skeptics, +who asked themselves, Where did the woman carry these infants--in +her bladder?) + +A tape was then shown of Montel's tour of the woman's house in Las +Vegas, where he and his crew had visited just before they came to +Rachel. The house was filled with geodesic shapes and magical +crystals designed to ward off the aliens. The woman slept under a +six-foot pyramid with a crystal hanging from the center. To us, +it looked like the same contraption Sean Morton is seen meditating +under in one of his publicity photographs. We wondered if he had +sold it to her. + +By the time of the second commercial break, the theme had been +set. Watching TV in our Green Room, we knew that this woman would +be the star of the show, and Area 51 could be no more than brief +diversion. + + ..... THE ALIENS ..... + +Upon return from the break, two more chairs had been added. The +new guests were a clean-cut looking couple who publish Unicus, +"the magazine for earthbound extraterrestrials." These people +haven't been abducted by aliens; they ARE aliens. + +Again, although we had never met this couple, we knew their basic +story before they spoke. We have run into many aliens here in +Rachel, like the Ambassador Merlyn Merlin II from Draconis [DR #2] +and the very attractive Venus From Venus, whose business card says +she does "weddings, exorcisms and alignment healings." Although +these beings appear in human form, you know they are aliens +because they immediately introduce themselves as such. One young, +spacy-eyed woman we once met opened the conversation by asking us +where we were from. We said, "Boston," and she said, "No, where +are you from Out There?" We had to confess that we didn't know. +She said that her name was Willow--just Willow--and that she was +from the Pleiades. Pleiadians, she explained, are very +peace/love/60s sort of aliens, in contrast to the evil, gray, +rectum-coring Reticulans, which Ambassador Merlin claims to +represent. + +Like the aliens we have known, the couple on the Montel show grew +up thinking they were human and did not know the truth until +experiencing a revelation. As the woman explained it, a similar +mystical event lead her to found the magazine. She said that she +saw a holographic vision of Unicus before her. On the show, +someone asked, What is Unicus? Unicus, she said, was the +magazine. She saw a 3-D vision of the magazine in front of her, +so all she had to do was look through the pages to know how to +write and design it. + +Still sitting in our Green Room, our mind preoccupied with other +things, we may have lost touch with the woman's narrative +sequence, so we apologize if we don't get her story exactly right. +Sometime after the vision, the woman felt an unexplained calling +to go to Peru. The next day, it so happened, a brochure arrived +in the mail for a tour to Peru, and seeing how this could not be +coincidence, she signed up. Through her hotel room window at Lake +Titicaca, she saw several alien spacecraft emerge from a cave in a +cliff. They split into many craft and then vanished. Somehow, +this confirmed her vision and convictions about Unicus. + +The man had nothing memorable to add, except that he was also an +alien. The two had met at a UFO conference and were immediately +drawn to each other by their alienness, but we forget the details. + +Then there was another commercial break. The show was now half +over. Nothing introduced so far had any stated connection with +Area 51. This was a show about aliens and abductees. We remain +neutral and do not feel qualified to pass judgment on their +claims, no matter how Loony Tunes. Perhaps some abductions are +real, but we have often experienced another kind of UFO abuse that +is rarely reported to the public: abducted by abductees, which +this show clearly was. We realized, now, that our role would be +only that of a token skeptic to be brought on at the very end to +give the production a thin veneer of respectability. + + ..... SEAN MORTON ..... + +When Sean finally appeared in the fifth chair, he was almost +irrelevant. Because he knew we were here and would be on next, he +made no extravagant claims about Groom Lake. What he said was a +totally forgettable rehash of generic UFO cliches. We heard him +say something about "Roswell," but can't remember anything else. +He provided nothing substantial enough to challenge. + +During Sean's segment, Montel showed the tape of his superficial +visit to Rachel and Freedom Ridge, without Sean. Pat and Joe +Travis of the Little A-Le-Inn were interviewed outside their +establishment, offering their usual unconditional support for +everything anyone ever claimed to have seen or experienced. +Psychospy, looking hokey in our camouflage fatigues, met Montel in +our driveway and showed him the big map on the ceiling of our +Research Center. There were some driving scenes, then Montel +appeared on Freedom Ridge saying that he had come as promised. +Finally, through the window of the Humvee we saw some daring +footage of the secret base in the distance. + +There was a break for another commercial. The program was winding +down now and at last it was our turn. We were escorted from our +Green Room and joined the stage with TV newsman George Knapp, +meaning that we would each have only microseconds of air time. + +When the lights came up again, the camera was still on Sean. +Commenting on the tape, he said that he had personally discovered +the location Montel had just visited. A lie! He had never even +been to Freedom Ridge, let alone discovered it. We wanted to +shout, "Liar!" but unfortunately we had not yet been introduced +and did not exist as far as the camera was concerned. + +Time was running out, and there were still three guests left. +George Knapp was introduced first. He had come expecting to talk +about Area 51 and the Bob Lazar story, which he had introduced to +the world with his KLAS-TV report in 1989. Unfortunately, he had +time only for a few short lines. George said something about the +charlatans taking over the field, but unfortunately he did not +name Sean directly. + +Then, at last, Psychospy was introduced. We were asked what +brought us to Area 51. We said that we had seen a UFO video tape +in which Sean Morton claimed that you could see a dozen UFOs from +the Black Mailbox on even a bad night. We said that we came here +first to check out this claim but saw only military exercises. + +Sean replied immediately, "Unfortunately, Glenn arrived too late," +and then he seamlessly took control of the camera. We still feel +dazed and aren't sure how it happened, but somehow we dropped the +ball and didn't have a chance to respond. With the show drawing +to a close, any disagreements between Sean and us seemed futile. +Although Sean got more air time than we did, even he wasn't really +a player here. + +Members of the audience had questions, but only for the sunken- +eyed abductee. Someone asked, "You say you killed some aliens. +If so, then what happened to the bodies?" + +The abductee replied that they had disintegrated instantly. + +Someone else asked (off-camera): "How did you kill the aliens?" + +The abductee replied, "With a crystal pistol." + +We wondered, silently, whether Sean had sold her the crystal +pistol. + +After a final commercial break, the skeptic came on, making it +eight chairs. He was allowed a few token words of objection. +There was another question or two from the audience for the +abductees and aliens, then Montel proceeded to close the show. + +The last thing he did before ending the show was poll each of the +guests to ask if they had seen UFOs. We recognized this as our +set-up. When the question came to Sean, he said that he had seen +UFOs at two locations, including Area 51. When it came to us, we +said that we had never seen any UFOs, even when we were on the +next ridge over from where Sean was seeing UFOs galore. + +We got an applause for that. Our only minor triumph. + + ..... EPILOGUE ..... + +Upon return to our Green Room, we found it occupied by two guests +for the next show, taping in the afternoon: "Interracial Couples +Who Haven't Told Their Parents". In our Green Room was the +interracial couple, looking tense. In another Green Room, we +heard, was the white man's conservative mother. Since the mother +hadn't seen her son in three years, she thought she was doing the +show, "Parents Reunited With Their Children." + +Isn't America a wonderful country! + +In retrospect, maybe we didn't do so badly. At least we survived +with a few shreds of dignity intact. Even if we did not achieve +the definitive victory we had hoped for, at least Mr. Morton was +kept in check and, aside from his Freedom Ridge discovery, didn't +have a chance to spread any new nonsense. In a crunch, we were +forced to meet Sean Morton on his own turf. Now, with that +encounter ended in a draw, we can bide our time and move the +battle to a venue where we feel more comfortable. Slowly, +methodically, we'll data him to death. + +"You may have gotten away this time, Sean David Morton, but we'll +meet again!" + + ----- BEN RICH SKUNK WORKS BOOK ----- + +Former Lockheed Skunk Works president Ben Rich, who directed the +development of the F-117 stealth fighter, will be publishing his +memoirs next month. "Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years +at Lockheed" is a tell-almost-all book with many nameless +references to Groom Lake. Rich shows an obvious disdain for the +"blue suiters" of the Air Force and expresses his frustrations +with excessive secrecy and the caprices of the military +procurement process. Popular Science is excerpting some of Rich's +book in their October 1994 issue, which should be hitting +newsstands and mailboxes within the next few days. + +Our mail order arm, Secrecy Oversight Council, will be selling the +Ben Rich book as soon as it is available. The price is $24.95 +plus $3.50 priority mail postage. Scheduled publication date is +Oct. 4, but we are accepting orders now. (Little, Brown, 350 +pages, hardcover.) + + ----- LAND GRAB UPDATE ----- + +Like a soap opera, the land withdrawal process for Freedom Ridge +goes on and on. In DR#13, we said that Oct. 15 would be the +soonest the land could be closed. Now, Jan. 1 looks like a more +reasonable minimum, but we wouldn't place any bets on that date +either. The process could conceivably drag on much longer--up to +a deadline of Oct. 95--and we still don't know for certain that +the withdrawal will be approved. + +We have never claimed to fully understand the withdrawal process, +owing to its many bureaucratic subprocesses, but after talking +with the BLM case officer, here is our understanding of the future +steps. Dates are our earliest guess, and further delays are +possible anywhere in the process. + +Step 1: Release of Environmental Assessment and proposed land use +plan amendment (prerequisites for the withdrawal). Notice of +proposed amendment published in Federal Register. (Maybe 10/15.) + +Step 2: Public is offered a 30-day protest period on land use +plan amendment. (Maybe 10/15 through 11/15.) + +Step 3: Las Vegas BLM addresses amendment protests. + +Step 4: Las Vegas BLM issues record of decision on land use plan +amendment, clearing the way for the withdrawal application to +proceed. (Maybe December.) Presumably, that decision can be +appealed. + +Step 5: Las Vegas passes the withdrawal application to the BLM +state headquarters in Reno. Reno takes an unknown length of time +reviewing application and making a recommendation. + +Step 6: Reno passes application to the national BLM director in +Washington. National director takes an unknown length of time +reviewing application and making a recommendation. + +Step 7: National BLM director passes application to Secretary of +the Interior, along with a recommendation. Secretary makes +decision to approve, reject, delay or consult entrails of +sacrificed animals. In the event of an approval, we assume (but +are not certain) that the public will be given due warning that +the land will be closed, presumably with a notice in the Federal +Register. + +Judging from the many hurdles still to be crossed, we are not yet +making any plans for our Freedom Ridge End-of-the-World Party. + + ----- OUR READERS RESPOND ----- + +The following items of correspondence were recently received at +our Rachel headquarters. + +CLONING NOT IMPOSSIBLE (Email) + + "HI! Just wanted to introduce myself. I am the guy who pulled +the toy gun on TV Consumer Advocate David Horowitz in 1987 on live +TV at KNBC in Los Angeles. I wanted to get my message out about +my family having been cloned by the government and the subsequent +events in my shattered life as a result of this action. I assure +you I am of the most sincere nature, and can verify all of what I +believe in. I am currently writing a book titled "The Invasion of +the Human Race", which I hope to complete in the next few +weeks.... I was interested in your comments about Larry King +being cloned. I can tell you that this is quite possible." + -- G.S. + +GOODBYE CALIFORNIA (Letter) + + "I am interested in getting a copy of the map of the US after +the coast of California supposedly falls into the ocean. If you +do not have them, do you know where I can get one?" + -- S.G., Mt. Carmel, PA + + ----- INTEL BITTIES ----- + +ST. PAUL UFO CONFERENCE. On Nov. 5 & 6, the Science Museum of +Minnesota will be offering a two-day symposium entitled, "The +Science and Politics of UFO Research," which promises to be a +significant cut above the usual UFO loonfest. Only credentialed +scientists will be speaking--no aliens, New Age channelers or +SDMs. Speakers will include Stanton Friedman, Kevin Randle, John +Mack, Thomas Bullard (folklorist), James McCampbell (physicist), +Dr. Richard Haines (psychologist), Dr. Ron Westrum (sociologist), +Jack Kasher (physicist and astronomer), Michael Zimmerman +(philosopher) and others. The topic is less about UFOs themselves +than how human science and society can deal with such +investigations. Psychospy will be discreetly in attendance. The +price for the symposium is $130. For more details, email +penson@geom.umn.edu or contact the Museum at 30 East 10th St., St. +Paul, MN 55101. (612) 221-4511. + +LAZAR SAUCER. A shipment of the new Lazar Spacecraft plastic +model from the Testor Corporation is supposed to arrive at our +Research Center by next Thursday. Although we still do not have +it in our hands, we can assure our readers, IT EXISTS. The model, +that is. You can debate endlessly the veracity of the Lazar +story, but at least it is rich enough in technical details to make +this model possible. Designer John Andrews, best known for +producing the first F-117 model before it was made public, spent +many hours with "The Bob" getting the details right. The plastic +saucer is 13" in diameter, and the price from us is $25.00 plus +$5.50 priority mail postage. + +SKEPTIC HISTORY BOOK. Now in stock: "Watch the Skies: A Chronicle +of the Flying Saucer Myth," by Curtis Peebles. This is a +skeptic's history of the UFO movement, offering a plausible, +although often superficial, explanation for most of the major +publicized UFO events since the 1947 Kenneth Arnold sighting. +Anyone who has pursued any of these stories, like Roswell or the +Travis Walton case, is bound to find grounds for argument, but it +is still interesting to see the flying saucer phenomenon placed +into an historical perspective. For example, the Roswell flying +saucer announcement came only a few weeks after the widely +publicized Arnold "saucer" sighting near Mt. Rainier, +strengthening the suggestion that the Roswell officers may have +been influenced by that publicity. Anyone seriously interested in +UFOs needs to read this sobering book. Available from us for +$24.95 plus $3.50 priority mail postage. (Smithsonian Institution +Press, 1994, 342 pages, hardcover.) + +UPCOMING TV SEGMENTS. An UNSOLVED MYSTERIES show on UFOs with a +segment on Area 51 will air Sunday, Sept. 18 at 8pm. The MONTEL +WILLIAMS talk show taped on Aug. 23 will probably be shown Monday, +Sept. 19 (time varies by city). (In a demonstration of talk show +incest, Montel recently appeared as a guest on the Conan O'Brian +talk show, where he promoted his Area 51 show.) The live LARRY +KING special on UFOs, direct from Rachel, Nevada, will air +Saturday, Oct. 1 at 8pm ET (5pm PT) on the TNT cable network. + + ===== SUBSCRIPTION AND COPYRIGHT INFO ===== + +(c) Glenn Campbell, 1994. (psychospy@aol.com) + +This newsletter is copyrighted and may not be reproduced without +permission. PERMISSION IS HEREBY GRANTED FOR THE FOLLOWING: For +one year following the date of publication, you may photocopy this +text or send or post this document electronically to anyone who +you think may be interested, provided you do it without charge. +You may only copy or send this document in unaltered form and in +its entirety, not as partial excerpts (except brief quotes for +review purposes). After one year, no further reproduction of this +document is allowed without permission. (The same one year grace +period also applies to all previous issues of the Rat, extended +from six months.) + +Email subscriptions to this newsletter are available free of +charge. 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See bottom for subscription/copyright info. + +In this issue... + SENSOR WARS + A JOURNALIST REPLIES + GROOM LAKE "FAN MAN" SAILS TOWARD BASE + INTEL BITTIES + +[Note: This file ends with "###".] + + ----- SENSOR WARS ----- + +In DR#3, we reported the existence of a number of road sensors on +public land near the outer perimeter of the Groom Lake base. Each +apparatus consists of two canisters about the size of soft drink +cans buried about fifteen feet apart beside the road (magnetic +detectors). These are wired to a transmitter about the size of a +gallon paint can half-buried behind a bush. The unit is powered +by batteries housed an ammo can sitting beside the transmitter. +At one point, we counted twenty of these on public land, extending +up to seven miles from the border. + +The sensors upset us because they suggest that the military, not +BLM, is in practical control of this land. If you trip a sensor, +within a few minutes an anonymous security patrol will appear. +Your license plates will be recorded and relayed to the +nonexistent base. If you deviate from the expected path to +Freedom Ridge, a patrol will actively shadow you and won't let you +out of it's sight until you return to the paved highway. If you +happen to show up at an inconvenient time, the non-accountable +patrols may even block your access to this public land, as +reported in DR#9. + +At the least, the sensors represent bad public relations. They +convey the message that no matter how much land the military has, +they will always seek to control even more. Every military +perimeter needs a buffer zone to protect it, then another buffer +zone to protect THAT perimeter, and so on. In fact, the Groom +Mountain Range was taken in the 1980s for no other purpose that to +provide an unused buffer zone. If you cross the border in the +vicinity of Freedom Ridge, you still have to traverse at least +seven miles of empty sagebrush before you come to the border of +"Area 51." The sensor network essentially turns public land into +a buffer zone for that buffer zone. + +No one objects to the military installing sensors within the areas +they legally control. The military has a right to detect when +people actually intrude onto their land, but collecting +information on the whereabouts and identity people who have NOT +intruded is different. That is purely an intelligence function. +Is domestic surveillance part of the military's charter? When the +entity collecting the intelligence is in itself unacknowledged, +the potentials for abuse are great. Where is this intelligence +being sent? Will it be passed to the FBI, NSA or some other +intelligence agency? Will people whose vehicles are seen near the +border be flagged as "suspect citizens" and watched more closely +for un-American activities? It may sound far-fetched, but when +the data collecting apparatus is entirely anonymous and no one can +be held accountable for abuses, then there is no telling how the +information may be used. + +Such a discussion about whether the sensors are legal and proper +has been largely academic until now. Although we are opposed to +them on philosophical grounds, as a practical matter we know where +they are and how to disable them. You can pull the power plug +before you pass and reconnect it after you leave. When television +crews visit, the sensors provide an irresistible visual +illustration of Big Brother at work. We express our theatrical +outrage into the camera as we point out the transmitter hiding +behind the bush. Until now, we've been happy with the status quo. +We wouldn't want to remove a sensor because, for one thing, we +have already carefully mapped them, and removing one would mean +that a new one would show up somewhere else and we would have to +change are maps accordingly. + + ..... MYSTERIOUS DISAPPEARANCES ..... + +A few days ago, on Oct. 5, we were out in the field with a crew +from yet another TV affiliate. Part of our shtick as we are +driving the press to Freedom Ridge is to use our radio equipment +to detect a sensor, then get out of the car with camera in tow to +look for it. On cue, we convey our sentiments: Look, it's a +sensor ON PUBLIC LAND! It means THEY KNOW WE ARE COMING and we're +going to be shadowed by ANONYMOUS SECURITY GUARDS IN WHITE JEEP +CHEROKEES. This sensor is an offense to our FREEDOM, PRIVACY AND +PEACE OF MIND. It makes us feel so... so... VIOLATED! + +Of course the exercise is totally staged, because we already know +where the sensors are and when to tell the cameraman to start +rolling. Often we give our radio equipment to the reporter +sitting beside us so that he'll have the satisfaction of saying, +"There it is!" + +....So we're cruising down the dirt road toward Roadblock Canyon +with the TV cameraman in the back seat and the reporter in the +front. Suddenly, we stop the car, close our eyes, open them again +and announce our remarkable clairvoyant intuition: "Sensor ahead." +We give the scanner to the reporter and tell him to yell out when +"496.25" shows up on the screen. With the camera rolling, we +start driving again, past a sensor we have already mapped and +identified as number 810. + +Nothing happens. + +We back up, drive forward again. Still nothing. Okay, so +clairvoyance is never perfect. If we were alone, we would get out +and checked the bushes, but the crew has a deadline to meet. We +tell the cameraman to stand by because we know there are other +sensors on this road: five altogether. About a mile further down +the road we pass the prior location of sensor 811. The camera is +running, but still no response on the scanner. Now we are +beginning to sweat and wonder if we will ever have a chance to +express our outrage. We have the reporter look at the frequency +counter instead of the scanner as we back up and pass over the +site again. Nada. + +We drive ahead, and get no response at the presumed locations of +812 and 813. By this time, the exercise is getting tired. +Psychospy has cried wolf once too often, and the camera doesn't +roll when we announce a possible sensor. We start feeling a bit +depressed and wonder if maybe the military had taken them all +away, just like the very photogenic "No Photography" signs they +removed after the KNBC fiasco (DR #15). The sensors are part of +our dog and pony show. Since the base itself is relatively +static, most crews decline even to shoot it. (Most now rely on +still photos or stock footage borrowed from other stations.) The +only reason to go into the field now is to catch shots of the +ominous Cammo Dudes sitting on a hill, the sinister "Use of Deadly +Force Authorized" signs, the mysterious "black" helicopter and the +ubiquitous sensors hiding behind bushes miles from the border. +Take away these things, and for a visual medium like television +THERE IS NO STORY. + +Could the military have suddenly gotten smart? + + ..... WHAT HAPPENED? ..... + +After passing through the infamous "Sensor Alley" to Freedom Ridge +with nary a blip on the screen, we theorized that someone at a +high level in the Air Force saw the Larry King TV special on Oct. +1. In it, the sensors were mentioned, and we figured that a +member of the brass with some P.R. sense had seen it and conveyed +a message down the chain of command that sensors on public land +aren't terribly prudent. Even without the sensors, there are so +many patrols in the field now that it seems highly unlikely that a +vehicle could slip into the area undetected. Instead of +protecting the border, the sensors were drawing people to it. +They were among the props that made Freedom Ridge the sort of +irresistible adventure destination that cannot help but attract +already-seen-it-all tourists. + +We surmised that the orders had to come from a high level because +the local command structure has always seemed crippled and +incapable of changing with the times. The local Dudes seem +trapped by their own antiquated rules, still fighting a heavy- +handed battle with Soviet spies and not the subtle P.R. challenges +of the 90's. Change, if it happens, has to come from above; +otherwise, the organization marches ahead in robot mode and +repeatedly shoots itself in the foot whenever given the +opportunity. + +Although we felt depressed about losing our props, removing the +sensors was the right thing for the military to do. We thought it +indicated a glimmer of intelligence and hope at the top of the +command structure. + +But we were wrong. + + ..... A VISIT FROM THE LAW ..... + +The day after the TV crew visited, two sheriff's deputies dropped +in to see us at our Research Center. They were Undersheriff Gary +Davis and Lieutenant Richard Triplett. They said they were +investigating the disappearance of eight road sensors reported +AWOL by the Air Force. + +They wanted to know if we knew who had taken them. We said we +didn't, and that's the truth. + +The deputies mentioned that Sergeant Lamoreaux had visited our +office on an earlier occasion, seeking information on who might +have run down a cow near the Black Mailbox. In the course of his +visit, we might have shown Sergeant Lamoreaux the detector unit we +had found in the middle of a road over a year ago. This was one +of the soft-drink-sized canisters, made from standard PVC pipe, +containing a coil and some primitive electronics. The wires +leading out of the unit were frayed and chewed up, as though a +coyote had gnawed on it and maybe pulled it from the ground. At +the time we discovered the unit, we weren't sure what it was. +There was a manufacturer's name on it, but no indication that it +was government property. Subsequent examination of the inner +electronics gave us the clues we needed to find a complete +apparatus. A friend of ours stumbled upon the first one. By +driving past it repeatedly and analyzing the output, we found the +radio techniques we needed to discover the rest. + +The two officers asked us if they could see the detector unit we +showed to Sergeant Lamoreaux. We pointed to it sitting on the +table beside them. It was a popular item at our Research Center, +and we did not hesitate to show it to visitors. As reported in +our Viewer's Guide, we considered it abandoned property and would +be happy to return it to anyone who can prove ownership. + +We opened the unit and explained to the officers how it worked. +The officers said that the detector unit we held in our hands was +worth $1000. We laughed at that one. We said that it was +possible that the entire apparatus, including transmitter and +battery, might have cost the military $1000 at very inflated +contractor prices. We were not talking high tech. The detector +unit was composed of off-the-shelf electronic components +performing a very simple function: to receive the electric current +produced by a big piece of metal--a car--passing by a coil, +amplify the signal and pass an impulse along to the equally +rudimentary transmitter. Any knowledgeable hobbyist should be +able to reproduce the functions of the detector with about $20 +worth of overpriced parts from Radio Shack. + +The officers insisted that the sensor unit alone cost the +government $1000, while the transmitter was valued at $4000. +That's a total cost to the taxpayer of $6000, batteries not +included. The officers told us, very politely, that any theft of +government property worth more than $250 was a felony. For +example, theft or possession of one of these detector units that +we now held in our hands was punishable by one to four years in +prison. + +Just then we felt something go "clunk" in our digestive tract. In +an instantaneous clairvoyant revelation, we saw where things were +leading. + +They were out to nail Psychospy. + + ..... HOW TO NEUTRALIZE AN IRRITANT ..... + +People have often asked us if, as the military's chief irritant +here, we have ever suffered any threats or retribution for our +activism. Alas, we have had nothing sinister to report. Once, +our home was visited by mysterious Men in Black (DR#1), but they +turned out to be Jehovah's Witnesses. On many occasions near the +border, we have been deliberately buzzed at very close range by +the big Blackhawk helicopter, no identifying numbers, in direct +violation of the Air Force's own regulations on clearance +distances. We were outraged, of course, but wouldn't miss it for +the world. Recently, we were arrested for apparently interfering +with the warrantless seizure of a news crew's video tape. We'll +fight it all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary, but even +if we lose the fine probably won't be more than a couple hundred +dollars--well worth the price in entertainment and political +value, we'd say. + +People warn us, "Be careful. If they want to get you, they will." +We have always taken these warnings lightly. All we need to do to +protect ourselves, we reply to our advisors, is remain pure of +heart and clean of spirit, be honest, open and honorable at all +times and the goons can't touch us. Oh, naivete! As we talked to +the officers with a thousand dollar piece of junk in our hands, we +were feeling a wee bit vulnerable. We saw, in our clairvoyant +vision, that if "they" ever wanted to get us, this is how they'd +do it. They'd look around for opportunities and strike us +wherever we were exposed. + +Officer Triplett said that he was not going to read us our Miranda +rights because we were not under arrest. We were just having a +friendly conversation. Nonetheless, he wanted us to know that +what we said could be used against us in court. He was going to +ask us a series of questions, and we had the right not to answer +if we so chose. However, if we did choose to respond, and that +answer turned out to be a lie, it could be a bad for us in the +future. Officer Triplett asked us if we understood what he had +just said, and we replied that we did. + +What followed was a game of "I've Got a Secret." The officers +asked us questions, and we replied with "Yes," "No" or "I'm sorry, +but I'd really rather not answer that." The tone was cordial +throughout our chat, and we had a chance to give each question +careful thought before replying. We do not recall the exact +sequence of the questions, but what follows is the gist.... + +The officers asked us if we had any sensors in our possession, +other than the piece we held in our hands. + +We said, "No." + +They asked us if we knew who had taken the sensors. + +We voiced our theory that the sensors were stolen by mice. We +explained to the officers that when the mice come to see Groom +Lake, they often want to take a souvenir back home with them. The +sensors are convenient and easy to find now that we have published +the frequency and told the world how to locate them with any off- +the-shelf scanner (DR#15). The sensors are a compelling symbol of +authority, as irresistible to purloin as the Restricted Area +signs. Because they are farther from the border than the signs, +sitting all by their lonesomes in the desert, the mice find them +easier to snag. + +The officers asked us if we knew any of these mice personally. + +We said that we knew a few adventurous rodents who might do that +sort of thing. We said that we had no specific evidence, however. +We suggested that the sensors were probably taken independently by +a number of different mice rather than in a concerted effort by +one or two. + +The officers asked us if we had ever HAD a detector unit in our +possession, other than the one we held in our hands. + +We thought about it carefully and replied that we preferred not to +answer that question. + +The officers asked us if we had ever had one of those $4000 +transmitters in our possession. + +Again, we replied, thoughtfully, that we preferred not to answer +the question. + +The officers asked us if we had ever had a battery in our +possession. + +We replied proudly and unequivocally, "No." We have never had a +battery in our possession. + +In very hypothetical terms, we recounted for the officers a bit of +history. There was a time, many moons ago, when the Air Force +refused to acknowledge that it had any sensors on public land. +The nonexistent secret base guarded by nonexistent Cammo Dudes was +also protected by nonexistent road sensors. BLM, the custodian of +the lands on which the sensors are buried, had no knowledge of +them either until a reporter we talked to inquired. A BLM ranger +had to dig one up himself and present it to the Air Force before +the AF admitted anything. + +We explained to the officers, strictly hypothetically, that prior +to the AF admission, the status of the sensors was very vague. If +one happened to stumble upon one of these orphaned items in the +desert, it would peak ones curiosity, would it not? If no one +admitted to owning them, they would seem like abandoned property, +like any of the dozen crashed jets or practice bombs found +littering the area. Unable to obtain any official information +about what this strange apparatus was or who might have left it +behind, a curious individual might be tempted to take one home to +examine. Hypothetically, one might want to dissect it to find out +how it works. That sort of information might help lead one to the +owner, to whom, of course, one would want to return it immediately +if they could prove it is theirs. + +We explained to the officers that after the Air Force conceded +that it did have sensors on public land, the situation would have +changed. One would not want to have any such apparatus in ones +possession. To any person or organization who had become a +painful thorn in the side of both the military and the Sheriff's +Dept., possessing any such hardware could be a very dangerous +liability, could it not? + +In an embarassing breach of etiquette in our otherwise polite and +hypothetical conversation, Undersheriff Davis blurted out, "So who +did you give the sensor to?" + +We looked mystified. "Sensor? What sensor?" + +We reiterated that we had no sensors in our possession and did not +know which rodent was responsible for the current wave of sensor- +nappings. We liked the sensors just the way they were. They were +part of our act for the TV cameras. Why would we want to mess up +a good thing? + +Undersheriff Davis, in another faux pas, asked if they could +search our Research Center for sensors. We thought about it a +moment then politely declined. We said that it was a matter of +principal. Although we did not have any sensors or other +contraband in our possession, we did not know if there was +anything else in our Research Center that might be construed +against us. We could not think of anything specifically, but we +liked our privacy and would feel more comfortable if the premises +were not searched. + +The officers said that they would have to confiscate the one +detector unit we had found in the road. We expressed our dismay, +since it had no government markings, was found abandoned in the +road where any passing patrol could have picked it up and was +discovered before we had any idea what it was. Nonetheless, the +officers insisted that we knew that it belonged to the government. +They said that the responsibility would be the government's to +prove it was theirs, and if they could not do so, then it was +possible it would be returned to us. (Fat chance, we thought.... +Just like those dozens of rolls of film taken from visitors with +the promise of "free developing.") + +The officers gave us a receipt for the detector. They agreed that +we had been courteous and helpful. They said that they would go +to their Rachel substation (a rarely-used building a block away) +to talk it over and would come back to us if they had any further +questions. + + ..... CUTTING A DEAL ..... + +The officers returned about fifteen minutes later. They said they +had been talking on the phone to the Sheriff but that they had not +yet contacted the Air Force, who they had been cooperating with in +this investigation. The information and offer that Officer +Triplett subsequently made to us we assume had the direct approval +of the Sheriff himself. + +First, Officer Triplett showed us a snapshot of a sensor and +transmitter, apparently given to them by the Air Force. He said +that he wanted to let us know, in a friendly sort of way, that +they would be going door to door to all of our neighbors in Rachel +to show them the picture and ask if anyone had ever seen us with +such an apparatus or heard us talking about having one. They were +not going to make any accusations, mind you, just have a friendly +chat about us with every person in town. + +Then Deputy Triplett made us an offer. It was a friendly offer, +based on the kind of deal, he said, that is often cut in drug +cases. Triplett said that they already had "two or three good +suspects" in the disappearance of the sensors. If these suspects +were confronted with their crimes, there was a risk that they +might "roll over" in exchange for more lenient treatment. In a +drug case, this means that the addicts turn in the pushers; the +pushers turn in the distributors, and the distributors turn in the +Mafia dons that can't be convicted by any other means. Triplett +said that, unfortunately, due to our prominent position, we were +the party who the authorities would most want to convict. If the +other suspects could implicate us in any way, then there would be +no protection for us; we would have to suffer the full force of +the law. + +On the other hand, if we chose to turn in those two or three +suspects before they could turn in us, Officer Triplett could +assure us that would not be prosecuted for any involvement in the +crime. + +We politely declined this generous officer. We told the officers +that we doubted anyone would implicate us because we were innocent +of any involvement in the crime. It would also seem difficult for +us to turn in the other suspects if we did not know who they were. +Any possible mice we knew of were already far outside the +jurisdiction of the Lincoln County Sheriff's Department. + +Our friendly conversation concluded, the officers proceeded to the +door. We thanked Undersheriff Davis for his purchase: He bought +a topographic map on which we had marked, at his request, the +location where we had found the detector unit in the road. We +suggested to the officers that the best way to prevent theft of +sensors in the future was for us to publish an account of the +officers' visit in our Desert Rat. We would warn the mice of the +potential penalties--one to four years in mouse prison--and +perhaps this would dissuade them. The officers agreed that this +was a good idea. + +We walked the officers to the door and bid them a warm good-bye. + + ..... HULK REBORN ..... + +At the time the officers parted, we felt nothing but respect and +sympathy for these noble defenders of the law. The Air Force had +made a complaint, and the Sheriff's Dept. felt obligated to +investigate it. It can be difficult being stuck in the middle +like that, but justice is blind, and these officers were doing +their job as best they could. + +Psychospy is naturally a mild-mannered character. He is not given +to anger or rash outbursts. He prides himself in being able to +see both sides of every issue and in understanding the complex +human motivations in every social interaction. There are no +"good" or "bad" people, just people with different points of view. + +But even as we recited to ourselves these good and proper +thoughts, we couldn't help but sense that something wasn't quite +right. Inside, we felt a churning. A transformation. Our +clothing felt too tight. There was a heaving in the chest. A +change in skin tone. From deep within our gut, a horrible, +wrenching impulse started making its way to the surface. + +We were getting pissed. + +The more we thought about what the officers said the more furious +we became. We hadn't felt this way since we spent a January night +outside the Lincoln County Detention Center waiting for the +release of the seven accused trespassers (DR#1). No one in the +Sheriff's Dept. would even confirm that the prisoners were being +held, never mind their status, so we had no choice but to spend +the night in our car in the parking lot, in sub-freezing +temperatures, awaiting their release. When they were finally +bailed out, at about 4 am, we were asleep and missed them. + +That's when the beast first emerged. A mild-mannered Bill Bixby +was transformed, in a metaphysical sense, into a raging green +Incredible Hulk. We were possessed by the irrational and +uncontrollable urge to do grievous damage to the Lincoln County +Sheriff's Dept. + +Nothing in the first part of our conversation with the two +deputies bothered us. The officers had a job to do and conducted +themselves professionally. What gnawed at us was what they said +after coming back from talking to the Big Guy. Psychospy does not +"roll over." We stand proud for our crimes and do not rat on +others to reduce our own sentence. We remain pure of heart and +honest and honorable in all of our actions, so if we are accused +of anything, we will stand trial and exercise every one of the +legal rights available to us. Psychospy is not your run-of-the- +mill, sell-out-your-neighbor drug dealer. We do not cut deals. + +We're mad as hell and getting more livid as we speak. We +recognize that there are a couple of issues that need to be +addressed right away. One is the future of the Sheriff himself. +He is up for reelection on Nov. 8, so now is the time to declare +our allegiances. Another issue is the lingering problem of the +road sensors, which we want to see removed from public land once +and for all. If the military will not remove them willingly, then +we predict no sensor will be safe from the mice. + + ..... A DESERT RAT POLITICAL ENDORSEMENT ..... + +In the upcoming elections, the current Sheriff, Dahl Bradfield, is +facing a credible outside challenger, Don Brown. Brown appears to +be an experienced law enforcement officer, including two terms as +a Sheriff in Washington State. We have met Mr. Brown and are +impressed. We can't say that we know him very well, but two +advantages overrule our unfamiliarity: (1) Brown has vowed to +sever all ties with the Air Force, and (2) he is not Dahl +Bradfield. + +After the KNBC video tape seizure, the Las Vegas Review-Journal +printed an editorial cartoon (7/26) showing the stereotypical pot- +bellied Sheriff with reflective glasses standing beside his squad +car at the side of the highway. A road sign in front of him +reads: + + Now Entering LINCOLN COUNTY, Nevada... + NO Videotaping + NO Trespassing + NO Bill of Rights + +The more we know about Dahl, the more he seems to fit the +stereotype. + +One misjudgment that continues to sour many voters is his +orchestration of a removal campaign for a Lincoln County +Commissioner, Floyd Lamb. Floyd is a cagey old politician and +certainly no angel, but he was a strong leader who was willing to +stand up to Dahl. Floyd was once a powerful state senator whose +career ended when he was convicted in a bribery case; the voter's +knew about his past when they elected him to the County +Commission. Floyd's worst crime as commissioner, as far as we can +fathom, is that he called Dahl a "liar" at a Commissioner's +meeting and threatened to cut the Sheriff's Dept. budget. In a +county with one of the largest per-capita police force in the +country, the Sheriff's Dept. is entity to be feared. The age-old +dilemma applies: When you live in a police state, who will +protect you from the police? Signatures for Floyd's recall were +collected chiefly by Sheriff's deputies and their spouses--the +sort of obvious conflict of interest that never would have been +tolerated in the big city. In the recall election, Floyd was +defeated by a slim margin (making us feel guilty that we didn't +get out and stump for him). + +We have met the Sheriff himself only in passing. We have never +encountered him near the border of Area 51, only his deputies, but +we see in their actions an absence of critical judgment from +above. The compensation the Sheriff's Dept. receives from the Air +Force is minor: They pay for one deputy and one car. Yet, when +the Air Force calls, the Sheriff's Dept. always seems to jump-to. +Contacts and agreements between the feds and the Dept. are secret, +and until recently, the Dept. was deputizing members of the +anonymous security force. When the military, through its own +unwise decisions, places itself in an absurd and untenable +position, the Sheriff seems willing to share those problems upon +request, no matter how damaging to the department's credibility. + +Only now, as the election approaches, is the Dept. backing off. +It may be too late! The worst political gaff you can commit in +this county is to be seen as a stooge of the federal government. + +While we normally remain agnostic in political matters, we have +seen enough questionable decisions by Sheriff Bradfield to draw us +out of the closet. THE GROOM LAKE DESERT RAT ENDORSES DON F. +BROWN FOR THE NEXT SHERIFF OF LINCOLN COUNTY. + +(Whoa! Bradfield must be quaking in his boots now!) + + ..... THE SENSORS MUST GO! ..... + +The sensors themselves have become a symbol of paranoia, security +overkill and government inefficiency. At $6000 per assembly, they +could easily be equated with the $500 screwdrivers and $1000 +toilet seats the military is known for. Anyone who seriously +wants to evade the sensors can do it; the only people who trip +them are casual tourists and those who deliberately WANT to find +them to take pictures or souvenirs. + +We do not recommend that anyone steal the sensors. As the +deputies pointed out, it could be a felony if you are caught. +However, we see nothing wrong with disabling the sensors simply to +assure your own privacy. If the military asserts the right to +monitor citizens on public lands, citizens should also be able to +refuse participation in this surveillance program if they so +chose. The proper method to disable a sensor is to gently +disconnect the power cord. Don't get caught doing it, because +Sheriff Bradfield may initiate a "tampering with government +property" charge against you. Given that the sensors have not +been sanctioned by BLM and you have done no permanent damage to +them, we believe that the charge would be untenable in court, but +you don't want to endure the hassles of hiring a lawyer and going +to court either. + +Following is some additional embarrassing information on the road +sensors. + + ..... SENSOR ADDRESSING ..... + +All road sensors we have found in this area broadcast on the same +frequency: 496.25 MHz. When tripped, a transmitter emits a burst +of digits indicating the unit's ID code and the direction the +vehicle is traveling. The ID code is set by easily-changed dip +switches inside the transmitter. For example, the first sensor on +the road to Freedom Ridge is number 810, the second is 811, and so +on. We collected many of the ID numbers back in the good old days +when security broadcasted "in the clear" and the patrols would +call them out when passing. Now, the ID's can (hypothetically) be +confirmed by a five minute examination of each sensor. + +We do not recommend that anyone remove or disassemble a sensor, +but if anyone DID engage in such evil acts, this is what they +could do for fun: "Borrow" a sensor, sit on a hill and +systematically change the dip switches in one sensor unit to the +numbers of different units. One unscrupulous person could +repeatedly trip a single sensor using different ID numbers and +thereby orchestrate an invasion! First, you could send the codes +for 810, 811, 812, etc. (assuming these sensors are eventually +replaced). Then, you could trip a series of sensors from the +north, maybe on several different roads simultaneously. The Cammo +Dudes would be frantic, and helicopters would be everywhere +looking for the imaginary visitors. + +Not that we would EVER do such a devilish thing, but it would be +easy to carry out and is certainly fun to contemplate. And now +that the Dudes know what we know they know we know, they'll have +to ask themselves every time: "Is it live, or is it Memorex?" + + ..... ILLEGAL REPEATER STATION? ..... + +After the AF was forced to admit that they had the sensors, they +sent BLM a letter announcing their intention to keep them on +public land within the scope of "casual use." Casual use means +that you can use public lands for almost anything you want as long +as there is no significant impact on the land or wildlife. You +can, for example, pitch a tent or build a campfire almost +anywhere, as long as your return the site to its natural state +when you leave. + +The Air Force argues the road sensors are discreet and present no +significant environmental impact. Looking at a single sensor as +an inert object, we agree that it probably would fall within the +scope of casual use. We object only the surveillance function, as +well as the fact that there is not just one, but an big organized +network of devices. It is like building a dozen campfires +simultaneously within a limited area of public land. + +Anyway, if one sensor apparatus--no more than two feet high +including antenna--does not violate casual use, how big does it +have to be before it does? Four feet? Eight feet? Can the AF +park a ten-foot microwave relay station on public land without +applying to BLM for a right-of-way? What about a 16 foot radio +repeater station? + +It so happens that there is a 16-foot solar-powered repeater on +public land about two miles outside the border. It is used in +connection with the sensor network, relaying the signal of certain +isolated transmitters back to the main receiver. Since BLM wasn't +informed of the sensors until the issue was forced, we assume the +AF never bothered to apply for a right of way for the repeater +station either. + +The repeater is located in Township 5 S, Range 55 E, Section 28. +To get to it, take Valley Rd. from SR-375 (LN 11.4) for 5.3 miles, +turn left on the side road and go 3.4 miles. Stop the car and +look at the top of the hills to the left. + +Could it be illegal? + + ..... FELONY CHARGES ..... + +If you are caught stealing or dismembering a road sensor, you must +be prepared to suffer your own fate. However, you should let us +know about your predicament, and we'll do what we can to assist +your defense. A felony charge is not pleasant to face, but unlike +the misdemeanor obstruction count Mr. Campbell is currently +playing with, a felony offers full rights of "discovery." That +means we can put the AF through the ringer as to who, exactly, +placed the sensors on public land, when and under what authority, +how they were purchased and how their valuation was determined. +If $20 detectors are indeed being sold to the government for +$1000, discovery would yield the documents to prove it. At the +trial--a jury trial, of course--BLM officers could be subpoenaed +to determine their policy toward military sensors on public land. +(At present, they have issued no opinion.) Carefully handled, a +felony proceeding can be turned around to put the accuser on +trial. Could be deep woo-woo for the AF. + + ..... BOUNTY OFFERED FOR NEW SENSORS ..... + +There have long been rumors that the Dudes have road sensors that +cannot be easily detected. Presumably, these would be smaller +units that need less maintenance. They may be totally buried and +use a transmission system that cannot be detected with a frequency +counter. No doubt, these would cost the taxpayer $10,000 a piece +instead of $6000. We don't know for certain that these sensors +exist, but if they do Psychospy is offering $100 for information +leading to the first one found on public land. (Do not remove it; +just tell us how to find it so we can photograph it and tell the +world.) + +In summary, we fear that any road sensors left on public land will +be both useless and vulnerable to theft. With so many tourists +now flocking to the area, there is also a risk of accidental +damage to the sensors if they are not explicitly marked with +fluorescent "Sensor Here" warning signs. (We've tried doing this +ourselves, but somebody keeps taking them down.) For example, +people might innocently run over the transmitters when driving +off-road or accidentally shoot a hole in one when hunting for +rabbits. The obvious AF solution: They'll install sensors to +protect the sensors. Maybe they'll train TV cameras on each, but +then how will they protect the cameras? You gotta love those +security dudes because they'll never go down easy. + + ----- A JOURNALIST'S OPINION ----- + +After we told an acquaintance of ours, a reporter on a big city +crime beat, about our visit from the deputies, he replied.... + + "Interesting development on the road sensors. You said eight +(8) were missing? That's a lot of sensors. And a lot of money +($32,000, or thereabouts?). I wonder who is taking them, and why, +other than general disruption of Groom security activities. + + "Oh, by the way: Police ALWAYS use that tired old line that +they have other suspects and they might talk as a way of getting +information. As you probably know, it is NOT illegal for police +to lie to get a confession. I once went to a seminar at which +interrogation tactics of police were detailed. It was +interesting. I came away with one guiding principle: If I am +ever accosted by police in an interrogation setting (they're only +supposed to interrogate if they believe you're guilty of the +crime.) SAY NOTHING and CALL MY ATTORNEY. Their little tricks are +very clever, but any reasonably smart person can see where things +are going and avoid the trap. + + "In your case, it doesn't sound like it got heavy at all. +They're probably just trying to see if you would easily confess. +Their promise to interview everyone in Rachel sounds like just +another tactic to shake loose a confession. These cops are SO +predictable." + + ----- RUMOR: GROOM LAKE "FAN MAN" SAILS TOWARD BASE ----- + +The following information came from a witness who prefers to +remain anonymous. Owing to lack of confirmation, we print it here +as "rumor." + +In the early morning hours of Sept. 22 (or thereabouts), a man in +his 40s attempted to "paraglide" into Area 51. He was with a +group of ex-Vietnam buddies from Southern California who had +decided, at the spur of the moment, that they were going to +intrude into the secret base. You know: capture an alien, bring +it back and put it on display during the Larry King extravaganza. +The group did not have the "Area 51 Viewer's Guide" and had only a +vague notion of where they were going. The source's description +suggests that they were way off target. They climbed a ridge, +which could have been the north end of the Groom Range, and saw +some lights in the distance, which probably weren't the main base. + +The intruder apparently took off from the top of the ridge using +an unpowered, airfoil-shaped parachute (a paraglider). The other +members of the group didn't know the intruder was planning his +stunt until he passed over them. The intruder is described by our +source as a gung-ho, off-the-wall type who would try anything. He +apparently did sail across the line into the Nellis Range buffer +zone surrounding Groom, but he didn't get very far. He was chased +down by security; a scuffle ensued, and he was hauled off to +Nellis Air Force Base. A second member of the group followed him +in on foot and was also detained by the Dudes. + +Both of the intruders happened to be in the Marine Reserve, so +their case has been handled by military justice. According to the +source, the parachutist was supposedly held at Nellis AFB for +almost a week, then released. He will go on trial in a military +court, which can apparently be kept secret. The member of the +party who followed on foot paid a fine of about $1100 and agreed +to sign some security forms. + +Inquiries to Nellis have yielded, "No comment." (Does this mean +the incident DID take place?) Inquiries to the Sheriff's Dept. +yielded only ANOTHER pair of intruders--two men from Utah who +drove past the Keep Out signs on Groom Lake Road later the same +day. + +Members of the original group do not want publicity. The source +has allowed us to publish only the above general outline. +Although we can't confirm any of it, we feel that the account is +credible--because the intruders sounded so naive and ill-prepared. +We wish we could have been there. + + ----- INTEL BITTIES ----- + +KING SHOW WENT WELL. We were pleased overall with the Oct. 1 +Larry King UFO extravaganza, broadcasting live from Rachel. King +was great. The producers were great. The crew was great. The +panel was great. The people of Rachel were great. We want to +thank them all for making it a great show. Perhaps in the next +issue of the Rat we will be able to comment in more detail on the +circus, including the still-unanswered questions about King's +possible cloning. (He did seem a little older and thinner than he +appears on TV.) + +SEMI TRUCK AT WHITE SIDES. Sighted at the White Sides trailhead +on Sept. 19: A North American Van Lines tractor-trailer truck. +The drivers had some time to kill and came to take the hike. +(Note: The White Sides trailhead offers a convenient turnaround +for truckers, while the Freedom Ridge trailhead does not.) C'mon +down, good buddies! + +ADVICE REPEATED. Naive tourists have been driving across the +border lately at the rate of about one car per week. Immediate +arrest, the towing of your car and a fine of up to $600 are +guaranteed. It may seem obvious but is worth repeating: If the +big signs say "Restricted Area," "No Trespassing," "Keep Out," and +"Use of Deadly Force Authorized," it means you shouldn't drive +past them. + +RUNWAY EXPANSION? Unsubstantiated third-hand rumor: One of the +runways at Groom will be extended by about a mile. The contractor +is Bectel and the work will begin after the first of the year. +[Thanks to a reader.] + +AURORA SIGHTING. You can find Bill Sweetman's version of the +alleged Aurora spyplane (different from the Testor's version) in +the toy section at Wal-Mart stores. It is a two-inch model +packaged in a Micro-Machines set of three aircraft, including the +SR-71 and alleged TR-3A. Also found in the package are a couple +of tiny Cammo Dudes--all for less than $5. [Thanks to a reader.] + +NEW CATALOG ITEMS. The following items are now in stock and +available for immediate shipment from our mail order arm, Secrecy +Oversight Council: Ben Rich's "Skunkworks" book, Lazar saucer +model, book on Edward Teller ("Teller's War"), book on NSA ("The +Puzzle Palace"), "Comprehensive Guide to Military Monitoring," +Tonopah Test Range satellite image (Cactus Flat), Nevada Test Site +satellite image (Pahute Mesa), "UFOs And The Alien Presence: Six +Viewpoints" and "Watch the Skies." A bound copy of all Desert Rat +back issues is available for $1 per issue ($17 plus postage). Ask +for our latest catalog for ordering information. + +REMEMBER THE SEVEN TRESPASSERS? (DR #1) Well, their charges have +been settled (DR #11), but they still haven't got their equipment +back from the AF. This includes binoculars, a telescope and a +camera--worthless to the military but a significant loss to the +owners. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? Is the equipment contributing the +national defense, or is the Air Force being PETTY AND VINDICTIVE? +Let's resolve this case. + + ===== SUBSCRIPTION AND COPYRIGHT INFO ===== + +(c) Glenn Campbell, 1994. (psychospy@aol.com) + +This newsletter is copyrighted and may not be reproduced without +permission. 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GREER ON "48 HOURS" + OUR READERS RESPOND + BLM ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT RELEASED + CAMPBELL TRIAL INVITATION + HAZARDOUS WASTE PRE-TRIAL HEARINGS + ENEMY UPDATE + INTEL BITTIES + +[Note: This file ends with "###".] + + ----- INCUMBENT SHERIFF PREVAILS IN LOCAL ELECTION ----- + +On Nov. 8, incumbent Lincoln County Sheriff Dahl Bradfield handily +defeated his challenger Don Brown. That could mean four more +years of secret Air Force "rent-a-cop" agreements, deputies +harassing journalists and confiscating film without due process, +and continued dismal confidence in law enforcement throughout the +county. But, hey, weÕre sanguine. The people have spoken, 58 to +42 percent. An election is the purest expression of the public +will, and thereÕs no arguing with those numbers. + +We canÕt claim that the electorate was ill-informed. During his +six years in office, Bradfield seemed to have committed every +lapse of professional judgment in the book, and his heavy-handed +"God Squad" of unsupervised deputies had pissed off a large +portion of the county. We and some of allies took out an ad in +the Lincoln County Record to remind voters of his biggest gaffs +and their enormous cost to the county [may be available at the FTP +or WWW sites], and we thought our logic was flawless. All the +Sheriff could offer in his ads were a few trumped-up endorsements +from law enforcement organizations, one of which, the Las Vegas +Sun reported, hardly knew he existed. The challenger, who was +formerly a Nevada State Police chief and well-regarded Sheriff in +Washington State, seemed like a breath of fresh air who could +restore faith in local law enforcement. In the weeks approaching +the election, we worked hard behind the scenes to support his +campaign, and we were almost ready to count our chickens before +they hatched until receiving a call late on election night +shattering our faith in humanity. + +We considered this election an important one. The big Groom Lake +base is wholly within Lincoln County, yet returns only trivial +economic benefits to the community. A nonexistent base doesn't +have to pay its taxes and doesn't have to engage in any form of +community relations. Being directly downwind of both the Groom +Lake base and the adjoining Nevada Test Site, county residents +have been dumped on for years by the federal government. In the +days of above ground atomic testing, this meant dangerous levels +of fallout and a predictable rise in devastating cancers. Given +the raw treatment the county has received over the years, this +place ought to be a hotbed of anti-government rhetoric, and it is, +but that sentiment is rarely translated into action. + +For a piddling contract fee of $50,000 a year, the Sheriff's Dept. +has essentially taken orders from the Cammo Dudes, seizing film, +arresting naive trespassers and investigating law-biding tourists +whenever the anonymous authorities call. This public police +department, nominally an open entity responsible to the people, +has seen no conflict in representing a government agency that +refuses to acknowledge its own existence. The Sheriff pulled back +from film seizures, perhaps temporarily, only when the election +loomed and negative publicity began to build up in the Las Vegas +press. + +Similarly, the county tax assessor, an ossified 26-year veteran, +has shown no interest in pursuing the base for the value of +contractor facilities. Although the AF itself is not liable for +local property taxes, the same does not hold for the private +contractors that largely operate the base. [See DR#5.] If they +occupy a government building, property taxes must be paid on it as +if it were private land (NRS 361.157). As it stands, the AF gives +the county an imaginary assessment every year, most recently $3.2 +million, and the county blindly accepts it, billing the AF for the +insignificant taxes implied, recently $80,000. Of course, $3.2 +million wouldn't buy a latrine at a place like Groom, but the +current assessor's attitude is that if county pushes the AF too +hard, they might sue or pack up the base and move it elsewhere. +Legal guidance, which should be provided by the county District +Attorney, is lackluster at best. He seems more concerned with +pursuing Campbell on the obstruction charge [See trial invitation +below.] than in making the secret base pay its due. + +Since the officials who were up for election had also offended the +electorate in other ways, the prevailing sentiment ought to have +been "Throw the Bums Out!" Indeed, that is what we thought we +heard on the street in the weeks prior to Nov. 8. What happened, +in fact, was the opposite: Every incumbent in major county +offices was reelected. The District Attorney ran unopposed, +apparently because there are not many lawyers willing to come to +this area. The Sheriff routed his opponent easily, as did the +Assessor, Clerk, Treasurer, an incumbent Commissioner and the +Justices of the Peace (including Nola Holton, who will be trying +the Campbell case). + +Philosophically, we cannot argue with the results. As an activist +nipping at the heals of the monolithic Air Force, Psychospy is +arguing in favor of democratic processes--that the secret base +should be subject to the same public accountability as any other +government agency. We cannot suddenly change our tune when the +democratic processes let us down. We believe that every +community, like every individual, has the right to self- +determination. The liberties American society holds dear include +the right to totally screw yourself up if you so choose. People +and communities that make good decisions prosper, while those that +make poor ones fail, and it is not the place of government or us +aliens to intervene. As it stands, Lincoln County is a dirt-poor +backwater, chasing away industry with its high taxes and bloated +local government and showing little interest in changing. Like a +person who drinks himself into a stupor, we can only conclude that +this is the way the community wants to be. + +Still, after expending significant energy on this election, we are +disappointed in the results and annoyed that we misjudged them so +badly. Removing the Sheriff and Assessor from office would have +been a major blow to the legal and tax immunity of the secret +base. The AF would suddenly find itself in a much less friendly +environment and might have to start paying its due. We hoped that +Lincoln County would become a "mouse that roared," demanding +proper compensation from the feds for hosting this huge and +potentially dangerous facility. Now, we expect no more than a +squeak, and we have been trying our best to figure out what went +wrong. + +The incumbents were of all political affiliations--Democrat, +Republican and Independent--so the national pro-Republican sweep +did not explain the results. If local sentiments seemed +overwhelmingly anti-incumbent before the election, why did the +incumbents win? In Rachel, the Bradfield was voted down almost +two-to-one. Why didn't the same happen in the rest of the county? +To understand the results, we must understand the society here. + + ..... LINCOLN COUNTY DEMOGRAPHICS ..... + +The remote town of Rachel, with 71 voters, is on the border of Nye +County, to which it is closely related in culture and attitudes. +Nye is a place of rugged individualism, where brothels are legal +and the prevailing philosophy is libertarian--meaning that people +should be free to conduct themselves however they choose without +interference from the government. With Psychospy's liberal +Eastern roots, we used to be annoyed by the blustering I'll-Take- +Out-Fifty-Federal-Agents-Before-They-Take-Away-My-Guns rhetoric +found in Nye and Rachel, but now we find it refreshing and even a +tad appealing. Nye has been especially aggressive in pursuing its +own secret base, the Tonopah Test Range, as well as other federal +facilities within its borders, for taxes and law enforcement +respect. During the Cold War, when anti-nuclear protesters +starting marching en masse across the cattle guard at the entrance +to the Nevada Test Site, the Nye County Sheriff and D.A. refused +to handle them, so the feds had to construct tennis court-sized +cages at Mercury to temporarily house the trespassers. Because +the Nye county government actively asserts its rights and defends +its independence, it doesn't get dumped on the way compliant +Lincoln County does. + +Rachel, we have discovered, is not representative of the rest of +Lincoln County. Rachel is a relatively new town, existing for +only about 30 years and thus composed mostly of "outsiders." The +rest of the county has been frozen in time for generations. The +main streets of the four major towns, Caliente, Panaca, Alamo and +Pioche, have changed little in the past fifty years. The absence +of economic development has helped preserved the county's +historical sites, but it has also meant no significant influx of +new ideas or new blood. + +Culturally, Lincoln County is not part of Nevada but of Utah. +Except for Rachel, the county is overwhelmingly Mormon. +Mormonism, or Latter Day Saints, is a religion of great mystery to +the outside world, known for its secret rites and a colorful +history intertwined with the American West. Although Psychospy is +agnostic, we regard religion as one of the unalienable liberties +that an outsider has no right to interfere in. What concerns us +about Mormonism is not its belief structure but how it interacts +with rest of the world. Even then, we are not seeking to +criticize, only to explain and understand. + +LDS culture is very close-knit and upholds a firm respect for +authority. "Family values" are paramount, and to help preserve +these ideals, the church does not shy away from active involvement +in all aspects of society, including business, education and +politics. Perhaps because the group was persecuted in its early +days, Mormons tend toward an "us-against-them" attitude similar to +that of Judaism. LDS is a society that pulls together against +real and perceived threats. In practical terms, this means that +when the church's interests are seen as at risk in an election, +Mormons tend to vote as a block under the guidance of church +authorities. + +In the Nov. 8 election, the incumbents had nothing in common +except that they were mostly Mormon, while the challengers were +mostly non-Mormon. Had the nascent anti-incumbent sentiment been +allowed to express itself, the church might have lost political +power in the county, resulting, it might be perceived, in the +degeneration of public morality. Was the election in fact pre- +ordained? From secondhand sources we have heard of local Mormons +quietly expressing their displeasure at being told by their +bishops how to vote but who obeyed the orders anyway. Evidently, +God is omniscient and has many human spies. We have not spoken to +any of these Mormon's directly, so the claim is unproven. +Generally, Mormons don't talk to non-Mormons about the affairs of +their church any more than workers talk about Area 51. + +We were unimpressed, however, by a candidate's night we attended +at a high school shortly before the election. It was presided +over by the bishop of the local LDS ward. We knew he was a bishop +even before being told because he had that air of moral rectitude. +In his introduction, the bishop said, in effect, that there were +no conflicts in Lincoln County, and as if to prove the point no +debate between candidates or questions from the audience were +permitted. This meant, of course, that no embarrassing questions +could be posed to the incumbents regarding their past performance +and newcomers couldn't show their strengths in a direct exchange. +Candidates were reduced to bland three minute statements at the +podium. Given that the candidates had already visited most voters +door-to-door, we didn't see the purpose of a candidate's night if +the candidates couldn't challenge each other. + +The Sheriff, an overweight, young-looking man, seemed to have +nothing to offer in his three minutes except that he had taken +some law enforcement courses and had instituted a 911 telephone +system. Like many of the other candidates, he had grown up in +Lincoln County and attended Southern Utah College in nearby Cedar +City. In comparison, his opponent, tall, thin and in his 60s, +seemed a paragon of worldliness and maturity. He recounted his +experience as a law enforcement administrator in a series of +prestigious posts outside the county. "Good show!" we thought to +ourselves as he passed the two minute mark. The challenger then +went on to explain that recently he had dedicated himself to +"Vampire 2000," an organization of law enforcement officers +fighting the "new order" and the encroachment of federal control. +We began sinking slowly into our seat as the challenger proclaimed +that he would tolerate no restrictions on assault rifles in this +county, but murmurs of approval from the audience picked us up +again. + +The strangest appearance of the evening was that of the District +Attorney, who although he was running unopposed was game enough to +offer his three minute resume. Given that a part of the DA's job +is to argue cases in court, he seemed surprisingly weak as a +public speaker. He is apparently no intellectual slouch, however, +having attended Stanford University followed by a law degree at +the University of Florida and a stint in corporate law in Miami. +A non-Mormon in his mid-30s who ought to have a better grasp of +democratic principals than most natives, he seemed to us to be +misplaced soul, and we wondered what made him tick. The one-man +DA's office both prosecutes criminal cases and serves as legal +counsel to county government. As an elected official, his office +is independent and responsible only to the voters, but you +wouldn't know it from his past performance, in which he has pretty +much toed the line of the Sheriff's Dept. Since his position is +secure, he ought to be beholden to no one and free to do what is +right for the county, but so far he has not lived up to that +promise. + +As stated, we cannot prove that the incumbent landslide was the +result of the Mormon majority voting as a block. There were +certainly other factors at work. In a long-established county +with little population turnover and only 2300 voters, it is +possible for everyone to be related to everyone else. Indeed, a +glance at the tiny Lincoln County phone book (18 pages) reveals a +disproportionate number of repeated last names. If you take the +Sheriff and his extended family and personal allies, add those of +the Undersheriff, whose position is also threatened, and the +families and cliques of all the various deputies who fear a loss +of their current freedom or job security.... Given that this is +one of the largest per-capita police forces in the country in one +of the poorest counties, you could have a majority right there. +One fact is certain: In the Sheriff's hometown of Panaca, where +his family ties are deepest and, coincidentally, the Mormon Church +is strongest, he was also reelected by the biggest margin, almost +three-to-one. + +Panaca was also the source, according to the postmark, of the only +hate mail we received as result of the election. (We've received +more from UFO buffs who believe we work for the government.) The +anonymous scrawlings from Panaca said, "If you don't like the way +Lincoln County is run--LEAVE!" Indeed, that is exactly how +democracy and free enterprise work. Every community has the right +to choose its own destiny, to uphold its own values and present +its own chosen face to the world. Individuals and businesses, in +turn, have the right to move to wherever the opportunities are the +best for them. If, for example, the Mormon majority makes the +environment uncomfortable for all non-Mormons, deprives them of +political power and enforces upon them their own religious values, +then indeed the others will move out and none will move in. The +only downside is that most industry beyond the walls of this tiny +kingdom is not controlled by Mormons, and businesses would be +foolish to invest where they have no power. The moral purity of +the community may be preserved, but not its jobs. + +Is it legal to vote on behalf of your religion or your family. +Certainly. Is it right? No. The root of democracy is +individuals making their own decisions, in private, without fear +of retribution and through their own independent conscience. +Otherwise, the system is as totalitarian as any Communist regime. +We recall, with bittersweet amusement, the caption on the Review- +Journal cartoon.... + +"Entering Lincoln County.... Now Leaving America." + + ----- LARRY KING FEEDBACK ----- + +The following postings on internet newsgroups were passed on to us +by our network of cyberspace spies following the Oct. 1 Larry King +Special on TNT, "UFO Cover-Up: Live from Area 51." In addition to +taped segments, there were four live panelists: Stanton Friedman +and Kevin Randle, representing the Roswell Incident; Dr. Steven +Greer, founder of the CSETI UFO group; and Rachel resident Glenn +Campbell, subtitled as an "activist." Only Campbell did not wear +a suit and tie. + + "The show is off the air 10 minutes and I am left with the +feeling that Glenn Campbell works for the government. I have no +evidence to that fact, I am new to this whole line of information, +but Mr. Campbell in my opinion seemed to soft-peddle the entire +affair in a much too uncomfortable way for me to give him any +credibility. Friedman on the other hand, pending further +information, seems very credible and quite likable, if not +eccentric." + -- buddhatek@aol.com + + "Okay, the show is off the air 28 minutes now, and you've got +an interesting theory. What better place to plant a +disinformation artist than as a crusader? Campbell, you're +correct, was very soft-shoe about the whole affair, even though he +moved his entire lift from Boston to live in a trailer in the +desert. Oops, I forgot... that trailer is actually The Area 51 +Research Center. + + "Whether or not he's actually a disinformant remains to be +seen. What was evident, however, is that Glenn Campbell couldn't +hold his own against the scientists and researchers on the panel. +Let's face it, Campbell is not a scientist, a physicist, even a +serious author. He's simply like one of us, an 'enthusiast' (I +hate that term) who's taken it to an extreme. He seems very +uninformed on the UFO phenomenon, which strikes me as remarkable. +How can you claim to be the Area 51 researcher extraordinaire and +not give a hoot about UFO's? The two subjects are so intimately +linked. + + "I'm not sure he's a government agent. He may just be a boob." + -- sharvey@interaccess.com + + "The guests on Larry King had mixed beliefs and ideas... much +of what is a cross section of the people who are interested in UFO +study. Stanton was correct in pointing out that there has been no +serious study of the phenomenon. Glenn Campbell is a better +writer than interview guest, he really doesn't have a UFO +position, he just wants the military to stop acting like Area 51 +isn't sitting out there. Greer is pushing the envelope with the +CE5 stuff. Hey, if he gets out in the fresh air and gets some +exercise waving a spotlight around the sky, more power to him. +Maybe they'll take him to their leader, who knows." + --d.beaty2@genie.geis.com + + "Steven Greer spent some time in Gulf Breeze, FL. I was there +at the same time. He was received warmly and with healthy open- +mindedness. Then, it became PAINFULLY obvious that his claims +were completely exaggerated. For instance, on March 14th, 1993 (I +think it was '93.), three of the Gulf Breeze 'red light' UFOs +appeared AND WERE VIDEOTAPED. He immediately claimed that he was +'telepathically' in contact with them and invited them to 'land on +the beach behind us.' He asked all present to 'send out your +awareness to them.' He was heard to say (to the UFOs), 'We +welcome you, we love you, we invite you to land,' etc. When the +UFOs disappeared, he claimed it was 'A MAJOR CE-5.' + + "Later that year (in June), he tried his tricks again (calling +them in). He was in a parking lot on Santa Rosa Island, about +seven miles from the other watchers at Shoreline Park. The UFO +did appear that night--about a mile from Shoreline, and about +eight from Greer. + + "Later, he claimed that the craft 'appeared overhead' at a very +close range. Other witnesses deny this, as do their videotapes. +Perhaps he saw something all the others didn't?" + -- dxr41@po.cwru.edu + + ----- DR. GREER ON "48 HOURS" ----- + +Larry King panelist Dr. Steven Greer is an M.D. from North +Carolina and the founder of CSETI (Center for the Study of +Extraterrestrial Intelligence), a group that seeks direct +communications with aliens. We know little about him except for +his prior appearance on "48 Hours" (4/20) in which he and his +group journey to Mexico where they hope to be taken aboard a UFO. + +Greer: "I'm serious enough about this that I have transferred +every asset I have into my wife's name." + +The group sets up an observation post and their array of cameras, +communicators and signaling equipment near the small town of +Metepec, which happens to be about 50 miles from the busy Mexico +City airport. Sure enough, the group has seven sightings in six +nights--bright lights hovering above the distant horizon that are +captured on video tape. (Later, two film analysis experts say +there is nothing to distinguish these lights from ordinary +aircraft.) The group even claims communications with one of the +UFOs through light signals. + +Greer: "It interacted beautifully, though, in terms of the off +and on. I mean, that was incredibly good CE-5. In no way could a +conventional craft move in a way where it could signal back and +forth like that with the lights on and off." + + ----- OUR READERS RESPOND TO PREVIOUS RATS ----- + +NUKING VEGAS [DR#11] + + "I thought your views on Las Vegas were disgusting. Yes I +agree there is little cultural worth there, but there are still +humans that live there. I hope someone wants to destroy you and +where you live. No I do not live in LV, but feel destruction of +life through terrorist action is absolutely stupid. I hope there +are no further commentaries like this one in your newsletter." + -- 74541.1743@compuserve.com + + "It's obvious that the only reason that you've ever been to LV +is to shop and immediately head out of town. I've lived here for +24 years, my family has been here since 1943, and I find that it +is a very reasonable place. There are actual neighborhoods with +children, schools, parks, and other "normal" activities.... Most +of our problems are caused by people that have come to town in the +last 10 years or so which has caused a lot of growth which has +pretty much ruined any chance of a pleasant life. East Coast +people (and I use the term "people" loosely) are usually morons +who are going to rough it out West and end up destroying or over- +regulating things and generally making a mess.... One can only +hope that the exhaust from a UFO completely fries the top of +Freedom Ridge the next time you clowns are up there." + --john@cephas.isri.unlv.edu + +Ed.: We admitted were wrong about Vegas, and we still feel guilty +and ashamed. We repented in DR#16, suggesting a different +target.... + +NUKING NEW YORK [DR#16] + + "...But really, how closed minded can you be to condemn an +entire city based on your limited experience. Maybe everyone +doesn't want to live in the woods or the desert. Being a NYC +resident myself, I find your comments very ignorant and scary. I +enjoy the culture here and the sensory overload experience of +working and living in this metropolis. When I want to get away +from the crowded spaces I get in my car and drive to the +Adirondack State Park which has over 5 million acres of some of +the most beautiful high peak woodlands in the country. During the +summer months we NYC people who appreciate natural beauty get in +our cars or buses and spend weekends out in the Hamptons where we +have clean and uncrowded beaches surrounded by sandy dunes and +farmlands. Perhaps you should limit your coverage to topics that +you know something about. Your reckless comments certainly don't +help your credibility on matters that you are trying to shed light +on." + -- macinwi@ffhsj.com + +Ed.: Nuke it! + +CALIFORNIA FALLING INTO OCEAN [DR#16] + + "Kindly inform the person wanting the map of the western US +after the coast falls into the ocean, that he's got it all wrong. +After the big one hits, we on the Left Coast expect to watch the +entire eastern portion of the US slide into the Atlantic." + -- dhomuth@ednet1.osl.or.gov + +Ed.: Please note that on NO OCCASION has Psychospy advocated the +nuking of California. (But now that we think about it....) + +CLONING UPDATE + +The letter by the cloning activist G.S. in [DR#16] prompted one of +our readers, Andy S., to do some research and confirm that indeed +his claims were true. According to contemporary news accounts, a +live KNBC-TV news broadcast was interrupted on Aug. 9, 1987, when +a station visitor placed a toy gun to the head of consumer +reporter David Horowitz and demanded that he read a statement on +the air. The visitor, Gary Stollman, the son of the KNBC +pharmaceutical reporter Max Stollman, had gained entry to the +studio by mentioning his father. Only a few seconds of the +statement were actually broadcast before being cut off, but the +Desert Rat has obtained the full text. It begins... + + "The man who has appeared on KNBC for the last 3 years is not +my biological father. He is a clone, a double created by the +Central Intelligence Agency and alien forces. It is only a small +part of a greater plot, to over throw the United States +Government, and possibly the human race itself. The CIA has +replaced and tried to destroy my family, and those of my friends. + + "Although I have known about this since 1981, I have not taken +any action about it for fear of the lives of my family. I have +been forced into CIA-run mental hospitals, such as Cedars-Sinai +Thalians, where I am shown being interviewed by many different +doctors, although I spoke to nobody there for two weeks. At UCLA- +NPI, I attempted to have myself released by a court several times, +but was asked by a Dr. Martin Zsuba to keep removing my requests +for a writ-hearing. I have been unable to obtain records from +several other hospitals, including Ben Taub Hospital in +Cincinnati, where all the phones were turned off for 48 hours +after I arrived. + + "I do not know where my real family or others are being held, +but I believe it is somewhere in California." + +A NEW TYPE OF SENSOR? [DR#17] + + "I was in the Air Force during Vietnam. We used "dog do-do" +sensors to monitor an area. It looked just like a piece of you- +know-what with a little wire antenna on one side. It was activated +by a small pin you removed. It had a life of two or three days and +if anyone walked near it a signal was sent out. They came +packaged in shrink wrap packages 6 to a pack. + + "Keep an eye out for devices like that." + -- Jcarter@orl.mmc.com + + ----- BLM ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT RELEASED ----- + +People who made comments to BLM on the proposed White +Sides/Freedom Ridge withdrawal should have received by now their +copy of the proposed Withdrawal Amendment and Environmental +Assessment for the Freedom Ridge/White Sides land withdrawal--an +intermediate step toward eventual AF control of the nearest Groom +viewpoints. A 30-day protest period on the document is now in +effect (ending Dec. 9), but it is open only to those who made +comments during the previous planning process. (Apparently you +qualify if BLM sent you a copy of the document.) + +To file an effective protest, you must show that the environmental +and land use issues raised during the previous comment period were +not adequately addressed in the current document. There is no +sense in ragging about the UFO cover-up, black budget +accountability or defense priorities. Your protest must directly +relate to the document at hand. + +We note with interest that the stated purpose of the withdrawal +has changed since the public comment period. The only initial +official Air Force explanation in the Federal Register and at the +hearings was: "The purpose of the withdrawal is to ensure the +public safety and the safe and secure operation of activities in +the Nellis Air Force Range Complex." + +The new document says: "The purpose of the withdrawal is to +provide a security and safety buffer to prevent a compromise of +national security interests and to protect assets of the adjacent +withdrawn Nellis Air Force Range." + +The document also provides the following significant admission: +"In 1988 the U.S. Congress withdraw the Groom Range Addition to +the Nellis Air Force Range as a security and safety buffer zone +between public lands administered by the BLM and the NAFR complex. +The USAF subsequently discovered that two areas adjacent to this +buffer zone provide viewing of military activities on this portion +of the NAFR. Public viewing of military activities (which has +often included illegal photography of range activities) has +increased during the past few years, necessitating the diversion, +postponement, or cancellation of missions to prevent a compromise +of national security." + +There is nothing surprising in the content of these statements, +and the purpose may even be justified (if they can also neutralize +the OTHER viewpoints like Tikaboo Peak that haven't been touched). +What is disturbing about these statements is that this is the +first time we have ever heard them from the Air Force (if, indeed, +this document conveys the Air Force position). For example, we +have never heard the Air Force admit that it erred in 1988. + +Here's the scenario we see: The AF applies for a land withdrawal, +but gives only vague reasons--"public safety," "secure operation +of activities," etc. The public is allowed to comment on the +action based only on this vague explanation--which makes +meaningful comment very difficult. After the comment period is +over, the AF starts fleshing out its reasons for the withdrawal, +providing more specifics and admitting its mistake in 1988. By +the time the application reaches the Secretary of the Interior, +maybe the AF even admits that there IS a base at Groom Lake and +that they want the land specifically to keep people from looking +down on it. Although this admission appears to be what we were +seeking from the beginning, the problem is that it was presented +only AFTER the public comment period was over, so obviously the +public had no access to it. In essence, the withdrawal becomes a +closed process with only the theatrical appearance of public +input. + + ----- CAMPBELL TRIAL INVITATION ----- + +All members of the press and public are hereby invited to attend +the trial of political activist GLENN CAMPBELL of Rachel, Nevada, +on the charge of Obstructing a Public Officer (NRS 197.190) for +pushing down the car door locks during the seizure, without a +warrant, of the news video tapes of KNBC-TV of Los Angeles near +Freedom Ridge, July 19, 1994. (Four of the five tapes have still +not been returned, although the crew insists that they did not +photograph the secret base.) + +The trial will begin with jury selection on WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER +21, 1994, at 10:00 a.m. and may take one or two days. + +Charges will be presented by Lincoln County District Attorney +Thomas A. Dill before Justice Nola Holton of the Pahranagat Valley +Justice Court in the County Annex Building, Alamo, Nevada (on US- +93, 90 miles north of Las Vegas and 50 miles east of Rachel). +Campbell will defend himself, with the possible co-counsel of a +Nevada lawyer. + +It is advised that those who wish to attend confirm the date and +time just before the trial. Local lodging is available at the +Meadow Lane Motel and Alamo Motel, both at (702)725-3371. + +COMMENTS. This will be a jury trial, so the judgment on Campbell +will be rendered by the same pool of local voters that re-elected +Bradfield. (Keep this in mind when placing your bets.) In any +case, we regard the process as more important than the outcome. +If found guilty, Campbell will be subject to a fine but no jail +time. At one point, the DA offered to seek only a $50 fine if +Campbell pleaded "no contest," but the defendant declined. + +REFERENCES. The incident for which Campbell was arrested was +recorded in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, July 21 (with an +editorial July 22 and an editorial cartoon July 26); Las Vegas +Sun, July 21, and PublisherÕs Auxiliary (organ of the ReporterÕs +Committee on Freedom of the Press), Aug. 1. [Also DR#12.] For +general information on Campbell and his goals, consult feature +articles in the New York Times Magazine, June 26, 1994; Omni +Magazine, Sept. 1994; Popular Science, March 1994; Reno Gazette- +Journal, July 24, 1994; and Dayton Daily News, March 20, 1994. + + ----- HAZARDOUS WASTE PRE-TRIAL HEARING ----- + +On Nov. 10, we attended a brief pre-trial heading on the lawsuit +filed by a widow and several "John Doe" plaintiffs charging +injuries at Groom Lake stemming from illegal hazardous waste +disposal. When we walked into the courtroom, there were children +everywhere. Twelve kids in the jury box, a girl in the judge's +chair, a boy on the witness stand and a sniffling wimp at the +defense table represented, evidently, by two young gentlemen +making rude sounds into their microphone. Across the aisle was a +gangly, blond-haired DA who clearly hadn't had an opportunity to +go to Stanford yet. + +It was a field day to Las Vegas Federal Court by a local grade +school. We guessed that the youths were about 12 years of age. +Earlier in the day, they had witnessed the sentencing of a real +drug dealer, a pregnant woman condemned to a couple of years in a +non-fictional slammer. From their places in the courtroom, the +students fired questions at the real judge, who towered above the +melee in his judicial robes. Would the woman have the baby before +going to jail? Would she be able to keep the baby? Why was she +crying? + +Someone in the jury box asked U.S. District Judge Philip Pro what +his salary was. He said he made $135,000 a year. + +Then the children filed out and grownups filed in. Three +gentlemen in dark business suits represented the government: Two +from the Justice Dept. and one from the EPA. The lead lawyer was +Richard Sarver, who we understand is a former Air Force officer. +Lawyer Jonathan Turley, representing the workers, sat alone at the +other table. In the pews were the widow and her family and a +handful of reporters scribbling notes on steno pads. + +The hearing was conducted in legalese, much of which was beyond +the grasp of our own tiny brain. We did pick out a few tidbits, +though. The judge asked if there were any ongoing negotiations to +reach a settlement, and Sarver said they were "almost DOA"--dead +on arrival. The judge also asked Sarver repeatedly whether the +government would "stipulate that the base exists." The government +lawyer declined the opportunity--meaning that the government still +does not acknowledge any base at Groom. However, Sarver did +repeat the official line that there are indeed "facilities at +Groom Dry Lake." It's a subtle distinction lost to meager minds. + +We noted that six months would be allowed for the discovery +process, during which each side of the case will be seeking +information from the other. The content of the rest of the +hearing was over our head. At one point, some angry-sounding +words were exchanged between Turley and Sarver, but the subtext +was not apparent to us. The hearing ended after 45 minutes, and +the lawyers dispersed. + +Whatever happened, Turley walked out of the courtroom looking like +the cat that ate the bird. Apparently, the government had +overplayed its hand. It had attempted to suppress the entire case +on national security grounds, and that gambit had failed. All we +know for sure is that Turley was bubbling. He was heard to use +"sex" and "law" in the same sentence, with law being rated as +superior. + + ----- ENEMY UPDATE ----- + + -- In DR#16, we reported that our intimate enemy list included +Lazar's gatekeeper GENE HUFF. We are now as surprised as anyone +to report a change in status: Huff and Psycho have kissed and +made up, and all those harsh words of the past have been +forgotten. + +Huff has even sold us a shipment of the handsome Lazar saucer +posters, which are now available from us for $15 (plus $3.50 +postage in the US). This 22" x 34" poster features three +schematic views of the "Sport Model" flying saucer that Lazar says +he worked on at "Area S4." In the background is a Russian +satellite image of the Papoose Lake area. It happens that in the +mountains north of the lake bed a tiny saucer shape appears, but +we suspect that it is a photo artifact. (Huff says that the +"saucer" did not appear on other frames taken at the same time by +other cameras on the satellite.) The poster was produced by Lazar +and Huff to coincide with the release of the Testor's S4 saucer +model. + + -- Replacing Mr. Huff on our mortal enemies list is German UFO +filmmaker MICHAEL HESEMANN. (Big round of applause, ladies and +gentlemen.) We met him on only one occasion, when he came to +Rachel to videotape part of a UFO documentary. He struck us as +narcissistic and highly unprofessional. He was abusive of his +crew (or so we gathered from his tone of voice, as we do not speak +German), and he insisted in appearing in every shot of his +interview with us. When a German journalist later asked us what +we thought of Hesemann, we summed up succinctly: "He's an +asshole." That translates into German as "Arschloch," a sentiment +apparently shared by many in the German UFO field. Eventually, +our analysis made it back to Hesemann himself, who called us from +Dusseldorf to leave a long and unhappy message on our answering +machine. Listening to it, we were reminded of Col. Klink +threatening Col. Hogan. Hesemann said he was going to cut us out +of his documentary, but he was kind enough to give us one last +chance to regain favor: If we wrote him a letter of unconditional +apology, which he would publish all over Europe, then he would not +sue us. We were trembling, of course, especially in light of +Hesemann's written comments to the journalist, the ominous tone of +which is best experienced without translation.... + + "Wie Herr Campbell, den ich in der Tat WIE JEDEN interviewte, +der in der Area 51 forschte, mein Video beurteilen kann, das +derzeit uberhaupt erst im Schnitt ist ist vielleicht das grosste +Ratsel der Wuste von Nevada. Ist er ein Medium? Oder hat er +selbst so einen Scheiss gesagt, dass der Film schon wegen seines +Interviews (von den anderen Interviews weiss er ja nichts) +schlecht sein MUSS? Was, bitteschon, soll er uber mich gasagt +haben? Nun, Campbell hat ein Manko. Als er in Rachel eintraf, +sind die 9 Scheiben--zumindest laut John Lear--langst nach White +Sands verfrachtet worder. Darum hat er nie selbst was gesehen. +Ich war das achte Mal in Rachel, als ich ihn interviewte. Ich +hatter bereits, zusammen mit einem ABC-TV-Team, eine sehr +beeindruckende Sichtung. Er nicht. Pech. So what? Neid???" + + -- Conspiracy nutcase GARY SCHULTZ is still our treasured enemy. +He showed up in Rachel during the Larry King show and afterwards +had the gall to visit our Research Center and try to strike up a +conversation. Since this is the twerp who once phoned our +neighbor to spread vague rumors of child molestation against us +(false, we must emphasize), we regard our differences as +irreconcilable. No kissing and making up here. We ordered the +little dip from the premises and told him never to come back. + + -- The enemy status of SEAN DAVID MORTON remains unchanged. At a +Nov. 5-6 UFO conference in the Bay Area, Sean described his +relationship to us as being like Michael Jackson to Weird Al +Yankovich. (This is fine by us, as we have already proclaimed +that we are not a child molester.) In our continuing campaign to +"data him to death," we are thinking of setting up a World Wide +Web page devoted entirely to the bigger-than-life exploits of this +modern Munchhausen. Another neat idea would be to establish an +internet newsgroup, alt.fan.sean.morton, where Sean's growing +legion of "fans" can exchange information and insights about their +hero. We don't currently have newsgroup host capabilities, +however. Is there a sysop out there interested in sponsoring +this? + + ----- INTEL BITTIES ----- + +BILBRAY DEFEATED. One bright spot in the Nov. 8 election was the +surprising defeat of Democratic Representative James Bilbray, +Congress's most vocal defender of the secret base and Air Force +interests in Nevada. In interviews, Bilbray came closer than any +other government official to admitting that the base was there, +but he seemed 100 percent in support of its continued official +nonexistence. In an interview on the Fox "Encounters" segment on +Area 51 [7/22, DR#10,15], Bilbray said that he had been all over +the Nellis complex but had seen no evidence of alien craft. +(Critics counter that Bilbray would have only gone where the +military wanted him to and didn't have the clearance necessary to +see anything really secret.) + +THE CAMPING SEASON IS NOW OVER in the Rachel area, as nighttime +temperatures drop through the 20s enroute to a winter low +approaching minus 10 F around the first of the year. Daytime +weather can still be pleasant (or horrible), but you'll need a +warm jacket. Light snow is common here in December and January, +and snow on the ground brings impenetrable fog to the valleys. +The normally clear desert skies are often heavily overcast in the +winter. Spring is the windstorm season, where fierce gales from +the southwest often prohibit outdoor activities. + +Identical weather is found at the Groom base, which was once +cynically referred to by Lockheed workers as "Paradise Ranch." +According to Skunk Works chairman Kelly Johnson, the name was +"kind of a dirty trick since Paradise Ranch was a dry lake where +quarter-inch rocks blew around every afternoon." [Source: +"Lockheed U-2," by Bill Yenne via C.H.] + +GROOM LAKE VOR. The frequency for the Groom Lake VOR (navigation +beacon) is 117.5 MHz. + +WWW UFO PAGE. A new World Wide Web page on UFOs, pointing to back +issues of the Desert Rat as well as a variety of UFO files, is +available at "http://www.bgsu.edu/~jzawodn/ufo/". + + ===== SUBSCRIPTION AND COPYRIGHT INFO ===== + +(c) Glenn Campbell, 1994. + +This newsletter is copyrighted and may not be reproduced without +permission. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2856.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2856.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2b97e709 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2856.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,433 @@ +SUBJECT: FROM A REPORTER WHO WORKS OUT NEAR AREA 51 FILE: UFO2856 + + + + +PART 6 + + + +THE GROOM LAKE DESERT RAT. An On-Line Newsletter. +Issue #19. December 7, 1994. + +Rachel, Nevada. +Contact: Area 51 Research Center, 702-729-2648 + +[Note: This file ends with "###".] + +!!!!!!!!!!! NEWS FLASH !!!!!!!!!!! + + ----- COURT REJECTS ALL MOTIONS IN CAMPBELL CASE ----- + +SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO BE APPOINTED + +Pahranagat Valley Justice of the Peace Nola Holton yesterday effectively +rejected all pre-trial motions submitted by Glenn Campbell in his obstruction +case, on the grounds that they were not printed in the proper format. This +unusual decision, rendered almost a month after the first motion was +submitted, calls into question the fairness of Campbell's upcoming Dec. 21 +trial. + +Campbell was arrested on July 19 during the seizure by Sheriff's deputies, +without a warrant, of the video tapes of a KNBC-TV news crew near the border +of the secret Groom Lake base. [See DR#12.] Although the TV crew says they +did not photograph the secret base, they were stopped by two deputies, one of +whom told them he would have to search their vehicle and confiscate all of +their tapes. The crew offered to show the deputy their tapes in the camera +viewfinder to prove they had not photographed the base, but the deputy +refused, and he and his partner approached their unoccupied vehicle to +conduct the search. Campbell, who was accompanying the crew, was arrested +when he reached into the vehicle from the other side and pushed down the door +locks, temporarily delaying the seizure. + +Four of the five tapes taken from KNBC have still not been returned and are +apparently being held by the U.S. Air Force. The Lincoln County Sheriff's +Department has a contract with the Air Force to respond to calls by the +anonymous security force at the border of the Groom facility. Neither the +Sheriff nor the Air Force will comment on the details of the contract or the +special relationship between the two organizations. + +Campbell was charged with Obstruction of a Public Officer, a misdemeanor +charge. He has chosen to represent himself, with the assistance of a Nevada +attorney, Tracie Lindeman. Campbell has requested a jury trial, the first in +this small-town Justice Court since around 1987. + +Campbell had submitted several pre-trial motions to the court. On Nov. 9, he +filed a motion requesting specific discovery materials, and on Nov. 22 he +field another seeking a ruling on defense strategies. When the court and +District Attorney failed to respond, Campbell filed a motion asking the court +to dismiss the charge. Still receiving no response, Campbell file a motion +requesting an immediate ruling on the previous ones. In most courts, the +prosecution has ten days to respond to motions by the defense, and if no +agreement can be reached, a pre-trial hearing is held to obtain a ruling. In +this case, however, neither the prosecution nor the court responded until a +Dec. 6 letter to Campbell from Justice Holton. Holton stated that the +motions submitted by Campbell could not be considered by the Court or D.A. +because they were not in the "proper form." + +Campbell concedes that he submitted the motions in letter form and did not +number each line or use the header format that is standard in legal +documents. Campbell insists, however, that the text of his motions was +legally proper and was reviewed by Lindemann prior to submission. +Furthermore, Campbell says the Holton previously accepted his Oct. 14 motion +to change the trial date, which was also not printed in the proper legal +format. + +In his Nov. 9 motion for additional discovery materials, Campbell requested a +Nov. 16 hearing, and the last line of the document said, "Please let me know +if this request is insufficient." Holton informed Campbell of the format +problem only on Dec. 6, eleven business days before the trial and only one +day before the deadline for the issuing of subpoenas. + +"It sounds like the weakest excuse in the book," said Campbell. "I have +never been on trial or defended myself before, so it's a learning process for +me. I have made a great effort to adhere to all the legal procedures, but I +am bound to make some minor errors. For the court to reject my motions +because they are not formatted correctly, and to wait almost a month to tell +me so, is unconscionable." + +At an Oct. 19 hearing on the change of trial date, Justice Holton told +Campbell he was free to file pre-trial motions regarding evidence and +discovery and that any conflicts would be resolved in pre-trial hearings. +Holton said that she wanted all questions about the admissibility of evidence +to be resolved before the trial date so that the trial itself would not be +delayed by them. The Justice appears to have changed her position in her +Dec. 6 letter, which effectively disallows any pre-trial motions or hearings. +"Any and all motions will be heard prior to Trial on December 21, 1994," +Holton wrote. + +"As it stands, I must go into this trial without the slightest idea about +what kind of evidence the court will allow or disallow." Campbell said. "I +directly asked the court for pre-trial advice, and it was denied to me. I +directly asked the District Attorney for documents and information that could +lead to evidence critical to my defense, and both he and the court dealt with +my requests by not responding at all. It doesn't help to have a ruling on +these matters on the day of the trial because then I don't have any time to +subpoena evidence or assemble a defense based on the court's ruling." + +"It is like the old Soviet system of justice," said Campbell. "You are +allowed to mount a defense only as long as it is ineffective. If your +defense is solid and runs the risk of embarrassing the authorities, the court +will change its mind and disallow it." + +One practical effect of Holton's decision to delay all rulings until the +trial date is that Campbell must now subpoena more witnesses and evidence +than would usually be required. Since he cannot know what evidence and which +defense strategies will be allowed by the court and has had no response to +basic information requests, he must subpoena all witnesses and evidence that +might possibly have any bearing on the case. This may mean that Campbell +will be forced to subpoena the Sheriff and Undersheriff as well as officials +of Nellis Air Force Base. Campbell is also expected to subpoena the video +tapes taken from the KNBC crew and all the documents that would have +otherwise been requested in the discovery process. + +Also in the Dec. 6 letter, Holton said that the D.A. had informed here that +"a special prosecutor will be appointed to handle this case." The reasons +for this action and the name of the special prosecutor have not yet been +revealed. It is also unclear why the D.A. has waited so long to make such a +move--almost five months after the arrest and only two weeks before trial. + + ----- BACKGROUND: JUSTICE OF THE PEACE ----- + +Dating from the days of Judge Roy Bean, the Justice of the Peace has been a +trademark of the American West. The position was originally created to serve +the needs of isolated rural communities where a full-time judge was not +needed and no trained lawyers were available to serve. A Justice of the +Peace needs to have no law degree, and there are no prerequisites for the job +except to be elected by the community. In Nevada, the Justice of the Peace +is empowered to hear misdemeanor cases but not felonies and deals primarily +with traffic violations. The maximum fine the Justice my impose is $1200 and +six months [?] in jail. + +Justice Holton does not have a law degree, but she was recently reelected by +local voters by a wide margin. In Alamo, the Justice of the Peace shares a +suite of offices with the Sheriff's Dept. substation, which consists of the +two deputies who arrested Campbell. One of these deputies, Sgt. Lamoreaux, +also serves as the court's bailiff. + +Nola Holton presided over a 1988 trial of four activists who were arrested +for trespassing in the Groom Mountain Range shortly after its controversial +withdrawal by the Air Force. Holton convicted the four, rejecting their +defense that they were working a valid mining claim staked while the land was +public. This conviction was later overturned by a higher court on appeal. + +Justice Holton also authorized the search warrant served on an ABC News +television crew on April 8, 1994. Like KNBC, ABC was accused of +photographing the secret Groom Lake base but denied doing so. The warrant +authorized not only the seizure of the crew's video tapes, but also every +piece of their equipment, including the camera, microphones, radio equipment, +sound equipment and cables. All equipment and video tape was returned to ABC +about a week later, with no explanation or apologies. Indeed, when their +story aired, ABC showed no pictures of the secret base except the one printed +on the cover of the March 1993 Popular Science. + +Holton has sentenced four of the seven trespassers who accidentally drove +across the unfenced border on Jan. 2, 1994. Three who originally pleaded "No +Contest" were sentenced to a $250 fine each. Another member of the group, +William Fitzgerald, chose to fight the charges but later agreed to a plea +bargain with the D.A. The D.A. agreed to recommend a $100 fine in exchange +for a "No Contest" plea. Justice Holton, however, chose to disregard the +D.A.'s recommendation and imposed a fine of $500 (plus a $100 clerical fee). +Such an excessive penalty--five times the recommendation--is within the +court's legal discretion, but it destroys the D.A.'s credibility in future +negotiations. Since the D.A.'s recommendation seems meaningless to the +court, he can no longer engage in effective plea bargaining. + +A fifth member of the group, Connie Ruiz, agreed to the same plea agreement +as Fitzgerald, but she has not yet been sentenced because the court has not +received the written plea agreement from the D.A. This four month oversight +in the delivery of routine paperwork appears to reinforce the D.A.'s local +reputation as an unreliable official given to unnecessary delays. + + ----- MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY ----- + +Summary: The Nov. 9 "Motion to Compel Discovery" asked the court to require +the District Attorney to provide documents to the defense concerning the +handling of the KNBC tapes after they were confiscated from the TV crew. The +motion is based on Campbell's Oct. 28 written request to the D.A. asking for +the receipts and other paperwork signed by representatives of the Air Force +and Sheriff's Dept. whenever this evidence changed hands. In most police +departments, these documents are routine and required, and they should be of +special concern when evidence is confiscated without a warrant. + +The D.A. failed to respond to Campbell's Oct. 28 request, even to deny it, so +the Nov. 9 motion was filed to compel his reply. The motion requested a Nov. +16 hearing if necessary, and the last line said to Holton, "Please let me +know if this request is insufficient." + + ----- MOTION TO CLARIFY DEFENSE STRATEGIES ----- + +[Below is the full text of the Nov. 22 motion.] + +Nov. 22, 1994 + +The Honorable Nola Holton +Pahranagat Valley Justice Court +P.O. Box 449 +Alamo, NV 89001 + +Dear Justice Holton: + +Regarding: Case #P55-94 + +MOTION TO CLARIFY THE ADMISSIBILITY OF VARIOUS DEFENSE STRATEGIES + +The Defense hereby asks the Court to provide its opinion as to the validity +of various defense strategies that might be used during the course of the +upcoming trial. I regard these strategies as straightforward and self- +evident, but my discussions with the D.A. suggest that he would protest them +as "irrelevant." In order to streamline the trial process and the obtaining +of pre-trial information, I ask the Court to confirm or refute the general +validity of each of these possible strategies.... + +1) The accounts of the police officer or officers in the case are directly +refuted by other witnesses who say that the events leading up to the arrest +are different than described by the officers. The Defense can argue to jury +that the difference in testimony suggests that the officer's memory is +unreliable and the defendant's actions and intent were different that what +the officers claim. + +2) At the time the defendant allegedly obstructed the officer, the officer +was engaged in an illegal act or an act that was outside his properly +delegated authority. The Defense may point out to the jury that to prove +that obstruction took place, the State must show that the act that was +obstructed was fully legal and properly delegated. + +3) Prior to the alleged offense, the Defendant had had extensive experience +in similar situations with the same officer whose action he is accused of +obstructing. In the prior cases, illegal or improper acts were committed by +the officer or his department--for example, the illegal deprivation of +personal property without due process--forming a clear and pervasive pattern +of criminal activity or abuse of authority. The pattern was further +emphasized to the defendant by the accounts of others, who claimed to also +have suffered similar abuses. This information entered into the Defendant's +state of mind at the time of the alleged obstruction, leading him to conclude +that, if the officer's action was allowed to proceed, it would result in a +similar illegal act. + +4) The Sheriff's Dept. is not neutral in this matter but is seeking to +silence or harass a vocal political opponent. Testimony is presented +suggesting prior animosity by the Sheriff's Dept. against the Defendant for +his political activism. Testimony is also presented that, as a result of +publicity generated by the defendant, the Sheriff's Dept. has suffered +significant public embarrassment for its questionable policies. If supported +by the evidence, the Defense may suggest to the jury that the authorities are +not seeking to uphold the law but instead are seeking to "get" the Defendant +to address past grudges. + +In this motion, I am only requesting the Court's permission to pursue any of +these general strategies and seek relevant evidence; I am not yet seeking the +Court's ruling on the admissibility of any specific piece of evidence, which +may be addressed later. The aim of this motion is to save the time of both +the Defense and State in allowing them to pursue only that evidence which has +a possibility of being admitted. + +Since the further conduct of the discovery process depends on the Court's +response to this motion, I ask that the Court rule on it as quickly as +possible to preserve the Dec. 21 trial date. If a hearing must be held +regarding this motion, Nov. 30 is requested. + +SINCERELY + +GLENN CAMPBELL + +cc: Thomas Dill, District Attorney + Tracie Lindeman, Co-Counsel + + ----- MOTION TO DISMISS ----- + +[Below is the full text of the Nov. 29 motion.] + +Nov. 29, 1994 + +The Honorable Nola Holton +Pahranagat Valley Justice Court +P.O. Box 449 +Alamo, NV 89001 + +Dear Justice Holton: + +Regarding: Case #P55-94 + +MOTION TO DISMISS + +I hereby ask the Court to dismiss the obstruction charge against me on the +grounds of repeated and unwarranted delays by the State in prosecuting this +case and responding to my reasonable discovery requests. These delays have +effectively blocked my legitimate defense. + +Procrastination seems to mark every action of the District Attorney's office. +In the pending case, even the simplest request or court action has been +unreasonably strung out, including... + +-- Delay, without explanation, of my arraignment from Aug. 3 to Aug. 24--over +one month after the July 19 arrest. The delay might have been justified for +a complex, multiple count felony charge, but not a simple, single count +misdemeanor. + +-- Delay, without explanation, of delivery of initial discovery materials, +arriving over two weeks after a written request and a month and a half after +the first verbal request. The written request was made Sept. 27, after +multiple verbal requests in Aug. and Sept. in which the D.A. told me directly +he would send the materials but did not. After the written request, two +additional verbal requests were required before the materials were finally +sent to me, postmarked Oct. 11. + +-- No response--after over a month--to my Oct. 28 written request to the D.A. +for additional discovery materials. Since other requests and motions are +dependent on the D.A.'s response, this unwarranted delay has made it +virtually impossible for me to prepare an adequate defense for our agreed +upon Dec. 21 trial date. + +At the Oct. 19 hearing, I agreed, in good faith, that the Dec. 21 trial date +would be final and that no further delays would be necessary. I understood, +however, that the D.A. would also make a good faith effort to respond to my +discovery requests. In keeping with legal practice elsewhere, I expected +that replies--at least negative ones--would come back to me within a few days +of each request, then I would file motions on points of contention and +hearings would be held promptly. I did not anticipate that a single very +basic additional discovery request would eat up most of the time before +trial. + +Although I have waived my right to a trial within 60 days, I have not +consented to indefinite delays to accommodate the State's procrastination. +As the trial date and discovery process is stretched out longer and longer +from the arrest, the memories of witnesses fade and the obtaining of evidence +becomes more problematic. Although I have waived my 60-day right, that does +not give that State the right to delay the tools of my defense and thereby +stretch out the trial date to the State's advantage. + +Even if the trial was again continued, it seems unlikely that the State's +performance would improve. My own limited observation of local court cases +and county business suggests that inexcusable delays are routine for the +D.A.'s office. Even the simplest actions and responses, some requiring +little more than the D.A.'s signature, are routinely delayed for up to four +months or are never completed at all. At the Court's request, I can provide +an lengthy list of such unwarranted delays in even the most straightforward +situations, suggesting that NO trial date, no matter how far in the future, +will allow the assembly of a reasonable defense in a complex case like this. + +To all appearances, the charge against me is trivial and politically +motivated. I was arrested for allegedly interfering with the highly +questionable and widely publicized seizure of a news crew's video tape, +executed by a Sheriff's deputy without a warrant. The charge against me +could be seen as an attempt by the Sheriff's Dept. and D.A. to save face. My +opposition to the county's secret dealings with the Air Force is well know, +and the continued pursuit of this groundless case must be seen political +harassment. + +I hereby petition the Court to dismiss the misdemeanor charge against me. + +SINCERELY + +GLENN CAMPBELL + +cc: Thomas Dill, District Attorney + Tracie Lindeman, Co-Counsel + + ----- MOTION TO SUBMIT ----- + +Summary: The Dec. 2 "Motion to Submit" requested Holton's immediate ruling on +the above motions, based on the D.A.'s failure to respond and the rapid +approach of the Dec. 21 trial date. + +"Since the defendant is innocent until proven otherwise, the burden is on the +State to actively defend its position throughout these proceedings. Since +the State has failed to offer an objection to the first two motions within a +reasonable period, I petition the court to issue an immediate ruling in favor +of the Defense." + + ----- THE COURT'S RESPONSE ----- + +[Below is the letter by Justice Holton to Campbell. It is the only response +from either the court or D.A. to any of the motions above.] + + Pahranagat Valley Justice Court + P.O. Box 449 + Alamo, NV 89001 + Phone: (702) 729-3357 + +December 6, 1994 + +Glenn Campbell +HCR Box 38 +Rachel, NV 89001 + +Dear Mr. Campbell; + +I am in receipt of the numerous communications which have been sent to this +Court. Before these written motions can be answered by the District +Attorney, or considered by the Court, they must be submitted in proper form. + +Please consult with co-counsel regarding the required format. Also discuss +with her the scope of discovery with the District Attorney must provide. + +Any requests for dismissal of this action will be considered only after the +Court has listened to verbal arguments from both sides. Any and all motions +will be heard prior to Trial on December 21, 1994. + +Also for your information, the District Attorneys office has advised that +because of a possible conflict, a special prosecutor will be appointed to +handle the case. The Court will receive written notification tomorrow and a +copy will be forwarded to you. + +Sincerely, + +Nola Holton +Justice of the Peace + + ----- PUBLICATION INFO ----- + +This special issue of the Groom Lake Desert Rat may be freely reproduced +without restriction. + +Prepared by psychospy@aol.com. + +### + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2857.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2857.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f9d02667 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2857.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,679 @@ +SUBJECT: FROM A REPORTER WHO WORKS OUT NEAR AREA 51 FILE: UFO2857 + + + +PART 7 + + + +THE GROOM LAKE DESERT RAT. An On-Line Newsletter. +Issue #20. December 19, 1994. + -----> "The Naked Truth from Open Sources." <----- +AREA 51/NELLIS RANGE/TTR/NTS/S-4?/WEIRD STUFF/DESERT LORE +Direct from the "UFO Capital," Rachel, Nevada. +Written, published, copyrighted and totally disavowed by +psychospy@aol.com. See bottom for subscription/copyright info. + +In this issue... + UFO RELEASE: TEN TIMES O.J.? + CAMPBELL GETS SPECIAL PROSECUTOR + TWO NEW ACCUSED TRESPASSERS PLEAD NOT GUILTY + LEGAL FUND ESTABLISHED + LAND GRAB STATUS / OUTING PROPOSED + MORE LARRY KING COMMENTS + CORRECTIONS AND UPDATES + INTEL BITTIES + ASK PSYCHOSPY + +[Note: This issue has been sent in two parts. The first ends with +a "CONTINUED" notice and the second ends with "###".] + + ----- UFO RELEASE: TEN TIMES O.J.? ----- + +One statement made by Glenn Campbell on the Larry King "Live from +Area 51" special on Oct. 1 seems to have upset a lot of UFO buffs +(confirming to some that Campbell must be a government agent). + +Here is a transcript of the last few minutes of the two-hour show, +pretty much summing up the position of each guest. + +LARRY KING: "Glenn, do you think they'll come to Washington and +say 'Hello'?" + +GLENN CAMPBELL: "I have the feeling, personal[ly], that they +probably obey the Prime Directive--That's from Star Trek.--that +they should leave us alone and let us conduct our own lives. They +seem to not want a lot of attention." + +DR. STEVEN GREER: "Let me say, though, that I do think that +within the decade that it is likely that an undeniable event will +transpire. There [is] the proliferation of video cameras and +other technologies such that some of the events that have happened +in the past decades, if they were to happen now in 1994, there is +a higher and higher chance that this would result in undeniable +evidence." + +KING: "Are you encouraged that this administration would help?" + +DR. GREER: "Yes." + +KING: "Therefore you think that President Clinton does not now +know what you may know." + +DR. GREER: "I really shouldn't comment on that." + +[Awkward pause.] + +STANTON FRIEDMAN: "That's a mysterious comment." + +DR. GREER: "What I think is that the current administration, the +cabinet level people are probably not informed to the level that +they should be. And to the extent that they have been informed, +it is probably disinformation not information." + +KING: "Kevin, optimistic or pessimistic?" + +KEVIN RANDLE: "Looking at the history of the government, I'm +fairly pessimistic. I think it will take some kind of outside +event to make us learn what is really going on." + +KING: "Glenn?" + +CAMPBELL: "I'm neither optimistic or pessimistic. If the story +hits, it will cause a big stir in the media for a while, but we'll +go back to our regular lives." + +KING: "Just for a while? Come on. Hard Copy would be there +tomorrow morning up in Pluto." + +CAMPBELL: "Picture the O.J. Simpson brouhaha and multiply that by +ten, and maybe you might have the UFO thing." + +KING: "Sex in space." + +DR. GREER: "I think it will be bigger than that, and I think that +what you'll see is a transformation in the way we look at +ourselves as a people. People will evolve into a global society +instead of national ones." + +KING: "Are you optimistic?" + +DR. GREER: "Yes, I'm very optimistic in fact." + +KING: "And you, Stanton?" + +FRIEDMAN: "I'm optimistic. I am concerned that the American +people are nowhere near aware enough of how much stuff is being +covered up as we speak--the huge black budgets, all the documents, +that scares me." + +KING: "Thank you all very much for being a terrific panel and for +participating on this show that started in daylight and ended in +darkness. [...] We also want to thank everyone associated in +this wonderful little spot on this treasured earth called Rachel, +Nevada, for their wonderful cooperation, and this great crew as +well, our producers and the entire staff. Thanks for joining us; +have a great time and.... [looking heavenward] bye. + + +Through the pulling of strings, Psychospy had obtained a pass to +the Larry King set, erected in the desert across the street from +the Little A'Le'Inn in Rachel. We lurked in the shadows during +the rehearsal and show, monitoring the radio traffic of the +control room and camera operators. There were a half-dozen +cameras: A camera on a moving dolly, a camera on a 20 foot boom, +a camera behind Larry, three cameras facing the stage, and a +camera on a hilltop a half-mile away. From the outside, it looked +like a graceful ballet of cameras dancing hither and yon, but we +pitied the guests: You couldn't pick your nose without the world +watching. + +Anyway, upon return to our Research Center, we found some forty +messages on our answering machine, and the phone continued to ring +all night. Most of the callers were very angry and said: "I've +tried the 800 number and can't get through. Why won't you people +take my call? I've got important information about the government +cover-up that must get on the air." + +One message on our machine came from a Lieutenant Colonel at Fort +Dix Air Force Base in New Jersey asking us to return his call. We +didn't bother, since we knew Fort Dix was an Army base. + +The next most common kind of call were anonymous voices accusing +Campbell of being a government agent. These were deep breathers +mostly, who left epithets and cryptic threats on the tape and then +hung up. The most coherent were similar to the email message +quoted in DR #18: + + "The show is off the air 10 minutes and I am left with the +feeling that Glenn Campbell works for the government. I have no +evidence to that fact, I am new to this whole line of information, +but Mr. Campbell in my opinion seemed to soft-peddle the entire +affair in a much too uncomfortable way for me to give him any +credibility." + +Other messages, faxed or mailed to us from supporters and +detractors alike, seemed to focus on Campbell's "O.J." comments. +"Only ten times O.J.?" they said. We're talking about the BIGGEST +NEWS EVENT IN HISTORY. If the government releases info about +UFOs, it could SHATTER OUR INSTITUTIONS. World religions will +CRUMBLE--or, alternatively, church attendance will skyrocket as +humanity tries to come to grips with the fact that IT IS NO LONGER +THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. World financial markets will fall +into VIOLENT TURMOIL and may even COLLAPSE when investors realize +that alien technology instantly makes ours obsolete. There will +be RIOTS AND LOOTING in the streets as humans see the +meaninglessness of our earthly laws. Millions of people will +COMMIT SUICIDE, while others will refuse to go to work when they +realize just how small and meaningless their lives really are in +scheme of the universe. + +Other correspondents sent us la-dee-da predictions, not unlike Dr. +Greer's, suggesting that knowledge of the alien presence would +draw all of humanity together into one loving, cooperative entity +singing "Kumbaya." + +"Balderdash!" we reply. We may disagree with Campbell from time +to time, and we are not ready to announce that any aliens actually +exist, but we think his nonchalance, at least on a philosophical +level, deserves our defense. + + ..... THE REAL EFFECT ..... + +Human history has always been filled with major disruptions and +uncertainty, and still we have bounced back to at least an +adequate level of functioning. Any alien presence or agenda, no +matter how sinister, must pale in comparison to the truly evil +things that humanity had afflicted upon itself over the centuries. +Take the Second World War, or any war for that matter: How could +the aliens, who seem clinical and disinterested at best, possibly +cause as much disruption to society as people systematically +blowing each other's heads off? + +Most people's lives are irrational and meaningless enough anyway +that it is hard to imagine that any release of information will +push them over the brink. Some people, already unstable, may +indeed commit suicide, just like during every big snowstorm a few +precarious senior citizens pass away; the notion of them jumping +off cliffs like lemmings is ridiculous. Humans are creatures of +habit and convention. They will continue to do what they are +doing now unless they are physically prevented from it. All the +profound philosophical and technological implications of alien +life would be absorbed only over time, at the rate that +individuals and society are prepared to change. + +Religions seem like the least likely institutions to be affected. +Religious beliefs are based on faith and often fly in the face of +reason anyway, so no amount of data is likely to change them. We +can expect only a temporary instability as leaders of the major +faiths race around to find the alien references in their +scriptures to prove that they had the idea first. (We'd place our +money on the adaptive and media savvy Mormons to easily win this +P.R. race.) + +The aliens have been variously described as centuries or even +millennia ahead of us in technology. As such, we can't expect +that much of their gadgetry will be immediately useful or +reproducible by us. It is like giving a transistor radio to a +cannibal on a remote desert island. First of all, he's got no +stations to listen to. If he is very clever, he might be able to +figure out how the radio works, but he certainly doesn't have the +ability to reproduce it with the tools or materials at hand. In +all, the technology is so advanced as to be almost meaningless to +the cannibal, who would much prefer a new spear or juicy +missionary. + +Thus, the earthly economy and financial markets would probably +remain stable for many years. People will still need to feed, +clothe and house themselves in the traditional manner. Alien +technology will not immediately bring down the price of the +Pentium chip or obviate the human need for air travel to sunny but +meaningless tourist destinations. Money will retain its perceived +value, and Las Vegas, like other religious sites, will continue to +prosper as a place for people to trade their money for the slim +hope of salvation. + +The only guaranteed effect of any alien revelations would be an +increase in television viewership. Television is our society's +guiding light in any time of crisis or change. People will want +to know what Dan Rather and Peter Jennings have to say about the +aliens, although they will probably produce only the obvious +platitudes: Yes, they could blow us out of the solar system if +they wanted, but they haven't done it yet, so they probably aren't +a major threat. Dan and Peter will only be killing time before +cutting to Washington for the long-awaited Big Announcement by the +President of the United States. Of course, by the time the +President announces something, you know it will be old news, +having already circulated on the tube for some time. Still, the +people need a leadership figure to offer them the same platitudes +as Rather and Jennings, but with the strength and authority of the +Man in Charge. The President's popularity rating will soar that +night as people cling to their leader, although it will probably +fall again to its original level before the next election. + + ..... UFOLOGICAL CONFLICT ..... + +Most ufologists seem to be basically schizoid about the release of +UFO information. On the one hand, they say that the government +MUST tell what it knows and that the people have a fundamental +right to the data. On the other, they say the news will probably +send society spiraling into anarchy, destroy our economy, religion +and government and drive people to mass suicide. That is not the +message to send to encourage the government to comply. + +What we are talking about is only information, no more dangerous +or destructive than how we choose to interpret it. If prominent +UFO researchers run through the streets yelling, "It's the end of +our society!" naturally the rest of the populous is going to +become upset at any mention of aliens, and the government will be +all the more reluctant to release any info. The duty of +responsible ufologists is to help prepare society for the Big News +by issuing only calm, reasonable statements and speaking about UFO +information as though it were routine. + +Noisy outrage at the government doesn't advance the movement any. +Ufologists say: The government MUST tell us what it knows, and +when it does, heads are going to roll in Washington for keeping it +from us for so long. No bureaucrat or government department wants +to come forward with previously withheld information if they know +they are going to be condemned for it in the end. It is more +useful to recognize the government for what it is: neither good or +evil, but a necessary part of our society composed of individuals +who don't all hold the same views. To get what you want from any +organization, you have to understand its needs and the concerns of +the people who run it. Instead of railing against the government +as a whole, it may be more useful to support the elements within +it that share our goals. + +The disruption of society would seem to be a major concern of the +people in charge; perhaps it is the whole raison d'etre of the +secrecy. Politically, it should be the goal of ufologists to +allay that fear. We want to send the message: "We can handle it, +now." Instead of blasting the keepers of the knowledge, we ought +to pin a medal on them, tell them how proud we are of their +accomplishments and let them turn over the reins to us in a +dignified ceremony before we pack them off to the retirement home. +These people, no doubt, have been pursuing what they have felt is +best for the country, and because we do not yet understand the big +picture, we cannot say that they were wrong. There could be a lot +of frightening aspects to the alien info. In real impact, it may +not be another World War Two, but the truth could still be +disturbing enough, emotionally, to require some courage and +maturity to face. That it has taken so long to come out may have +been justified, in which case we don't have to blame anyone for +what has happened in the past, just proceed from the present. + +Of course, Psychospy is not claiming that aliens, UFOs or any +government cover-up of them are real. We will not be pinned down +on this point. But if they ARE real, we believe the secrecy will +collapse very quickly when a certain critical mass of social, +economic and philosophical factors is achieved. Like the fall of +the Berlin Wall, it could happen almost overnight. In fact, the +collapse of the Soviet Union itself could be the most important +contributing factor to the fall of the Alien Wall. It means there +are fewer bureaucratic niches in which to hide your crashed +saucers and little gray bodies. With the moral underpinnings of +secrecy eroding, and a million internet users now collecting data +and making it instantly available to the world, never in history +has it been harder to keep a Really Big Secret. + +Perhaps it is time for Psychospy to come out of the closet. In +1995, we hope to explore UFOs and alien issues more deeply here in +the Desert Rat. We will, of course, remain seated squarely on the +fence (ouch!) and let the data speak for itself. Even if there +are no aliens, the philosophical topic is fascinating: How do we +approach a field of knowledge that seems way beyond our current +understanding? + +The solution? Just panic. Throw up your hands and run +hysterically through the streets yelling, "Aggggghhhhhhh!" + +Always works for us. + + ----- CAMPBELL GETS SPECIAL PROSECUTOR ----- + +TRIAL DELAYED TO FEB. 8 + +Who do you know who gets a Special Prosecutor? Richard Nixon, +Ollie North, maybe Clinton if he is lucky. Campbell feels +similarly honored to have a Special Prosecutor appointed for him. +The new S.P. is Steve Dobrescu, a lawyer in private practice in +Ely, Nevada, hired especially by Lincoln County to handle the +Campbell obstruction case. The District Attorney, Tom Dill, says +that he appointed the S.P. because Campbell's political activities +were creating a conflict, but we wonder if the D.A. isn't just +passing the buck because he doesn't like to make difficult +decisions or appear in court. This sure must be costing the +county a bundle. + +Now that the D.A. has excused himself from the case, it is +interesting to note that he can be subpoenaed as a witness should +it prove necessary. + +In any case, Campbell has talked with his Special Prosecutor on +the phone, sent him his "press packet" and files on the case, and +declares himself pleased with the choice. "It is a pleasant +change to deal with someone who understands both the letter and +spirit of the law," said Campbell. "From what I know of him, I +think he is a straight shooter who will make his own independent +judgment about the evidence." + +Since the D.A. did nothing for five months, and waited until only +two weeks before the scheduled trial to appoint the S.P., Dobrescu +requested a further delay of the trial to give him time to review +the case. Campbell, acting as his own attorney, has agreed, so a +new trial date has been set for Feb. 8. The world is still +invited. + +Some readers have questioned why Campbell has not hired a lawyer +to defend him in such an important case, given that Campbell does +not even know how to format a motion [DR#19]. Campbell replies +that he "wouldn't miss this opportunity for the world," especially +the chance to strut and bluster before the captive jury. "I'm +learning how to be a lawyer by doing it," said Campbell. +"Essentially, the county is providing my law school. I may make +mistakes, but regardless of the outcome, I will emerge as a more +dangerous legal force in the end." + + ----- TWO NEW ACCUSED TRESPASSERS PLEAD NOT GUILTY ----- + +....AND ASK FOR A JURY TRIAL + +It may be just coincidence, but two visitors recently accused of +misdemeanor trespass near Freedom Ridge have pleaded NOT GUILTY in +Pahranagat Valley Justice Court and have asked for a JURY TRIAL. +Ryan Chivers and Jason Winget of Salt Lake City were intercepted +by anonymous Cammo Dudes on the evening of Dec. 1, not far from +the "Restricted Area" signs on Groom Lake Road. The two admit to +getting lost briefly in the dark while trying to find Freedom +Ridge and that they may have unwittingly wandered across the line +at some point. The key question is whether they were on public or +military land at the time of their capture. According to their +account, the anonymous Dudes intercepted them outside the +"Restricted Area" signs and then marched them back inside the +border, where they were later taken into custody by Deputy +Lamoreaux of the Sheriff's Dept. + +Unless the Cammo Dudes who captured them show up in court to +testify that the accused were on military, not public land at the +time of their capture, the two are simply not guilty of the +trespassing statute they are charged with (NRS 204.200): (A) They +did not WILLFULLY cross the line, and (B) they were not FOUND +across the line, except after the Dudes kidnapped them back there. + +In any real world justice system, the case would be thrown out +instantly, but this is Lincoln County ("...now leaving America") +so we can't expect the D.A. or judge to catch on. That's why it +is essential to request a jury trial, where at least there is a +hope of justice. + +This trial is scheduled for Feb. 15, one week after Campbell's. + + ----- LEGAL FUND ESTABLISHED ----- + +We find a jury trial to be a compelling concept. It is a +guaranteed right under Nevada law for any misdemeanor, but it +won't be offered; you have to ask for it. We are grateful to T. +Lindeman for putting us on to this concept. We regret only that +we did not know about it in time to help the six defendants +accused last January [DR#1, etc.]. + +Imagine what would happen if EVERYONE accused of trespassing opted +for a jury trial. This would be the best guarantee of fairness +for each, especially when local justice and law enforcement +officials seem so entangled in dubious alliances. Imagine a full +jury trial, with all the trimm'ns, happening every other week in +Pahranagat Valley Justice Court. The tiny system might be +swamped, but if this is the price of justice, so be it. Perhaps, +in the process, Lincoln County might be encouraged to loosen it's +secret ties with the Cammo Dudes. + +To help encourage justice here, the Area 51 Research Center has +just established a legal aid fund. The Research Center will pay +all or part of the fines of any accused trespasser, provided they +opt for a jury trial and go through the full legal process. Going +to trial is a pain, especially for those who live out of state and +must come back, but we also find it a excellent form of education, +an opportunity to learn the legal system by doing it. + +This offer applies only to INNOCENT accused trespassers, those who +did not intentionally cross the line. We cannot defend those who +DELIBERATELY intrude into the Restricted Zone and happen to get +caught. (What if you get so "lost" that you wander 10 miles +inside the Zone? We would have to approach that on a case-by-case +basis.) The fund may also be used for other legal pursuits +relating to the dubious cooperation between the Sheriff's Dept. +and Cammo Dudes, like securing the release of lost film taken by +deputies for "processing" and never returned. + +Contributions already made by our generous readers to the Campbell +Defense Fund will be transferred into the new Accused Trespassers +Defense Fund. New contributions may be sent to us at the Area 51 +Research Center. (Please tell us your email address or Secret +Agent Code Name and let us know whether we can print an +acknowledgment of your contribution here in the Rat.) + + + ----- LAND GRAB STATUS / OUTING PROPOSED ----- + +It isn't yet time to schedule our "End of the World Party" on +Freedom Ridge. The wheels of government turn slowly and there are +still more steps in the withdrawal process. We talked to Neil +Talbot at the BLM Reno Office for the latest update. First the +BLM has to respond to the ten protests raised to the "Proposed +Land Use Amendment" (which had to be filed by Dec. 9). How long +this takes will depend on the quality of the protests, but it +seems likely to extend into the new year. When all the protests +are settled, BLM could issue a "final record of decision" +approving the withdrawal. However, the implementation of that +decision can then be appealed to the Interior Board of Land +Appeals--while the land, presumably, remains open. + +We think it's a riot that this action, supposedly a shoo-in for +the military, has stretched out for so long, miring one part of +the government in the bureaucracy of another. No matter what the +end result may be, the military has lost this battle badly because +it fought the WRONG battle: It fought for the land instead of for +the hearts and minds of the people. The last laugh is, Freedom +Ridge doesn't exist. It is an artificial public relations concept +created here in the laboratories of our Research Center. It has +done its job well--like a car that was supposed to last 100,000 +miles but you manage to squeeze 300,000 out of it. No matter what +happens now we can't complain. + +We won't schedule our "End of the World" event until we have a +solid closure date. In the meantime, however, some readers have +expressed an interest in holding another casual get-together on +Freedom Ridge in January. This could turn into the "End of the +World Party" if the withdrawal process moves more quickly than +anticipated, but for now we'll just call it an anniversary event. +It will be a year ago in January that we unveiled the four wheel +drive "Freedom Ridge Expressway." At the ribbon-cutting +ceremonies--reported way back in DR#1--we welcomed aviation +writers and buffs for a "last glimpse" of the secret base before +the land might be closed. Hundreds have visited the ridge since +then, including respectable journalists from all over the world, +as well as the entire editorial staff of THE NOSE Magazine on one +of their mindless drink-and-drive sex-house road trips out of San +Francisco. + +The dates proposed for this anniversary event are Jan. 14, 21 or +28. We encourage input from those interested as to which date is +best. We'll call this our Second-Annual-Could-Be-Closed-Any-Day- +Now-Freedom-Ridge-Inspection-Visit. In January, the weather can +be pleasant (or horrible) during the day, but it is too cold to +camp at night. (Last year, the wind was calm with daytime highs +around 50 and nighttime lows in the teens.) + +Meanwhile, the out-of-touch Cammo Dudes thought they were going to +get the land Dec. 9. In anticipation, we hear that they took down +the yellow ribbons marking the public hiking trail to Freedom +Ridge, which is not yet their authority to do. Time to send +another strong letter to the Air Force. + + ----- MORE LARRY KING COMMENTS ----- + + "Now, I might have been temporally insane, but by any chance +did you see those lights that started to appear around the end of +the show? A couple of them seemed to get brighter and dimmer as +they hovered behind those 'expert's' heads and I saw at least one +that zigzagged across the screen. I counted around four that just +hovered. Were those search lights from Area 51? or something +else?" + -- OutKast00@aol.com + +We offer two theories: (1) Headlights of cars in the distance and +(2) moths attracted to the bright stage lights after dark. In any +case, to avoid conflicts with the setting sun, the cameras were +pointed to the north, away from Area 51. When Larry King pointed +to secret base "just over those hills," it was the wrong +direction! + + ----- CORRECTIONS AND UPDATES ----- + +The ILLEGAL REPEATER STATION on public land reported in DR#18 has +been removed to inside the military border. (We are not sure +whether it happened before or after the publication of DR#18.) + +Several MORMONS on our subscription list sent us email about our +suggestion in DR#18 that Lincoln County elections were dominated +by local Mormons voting as a block. These big-city Mormons say +that any political lobbying from the pulpit is strictly forbidden +by the church. They say that it is unfair to blame the whole +church for small-town attitudes, which might be the same in the +rural South, where Southern Baptists rule, or in remote +Appalachia, where folks just can't read. We agree that there are +other theories to account for the unhappy election results apart +from the easy Mormon one: The most prominent we overlooked is +that, because the county lacks industry and is rich in family +ties, almost everyone here seems to either work for the county +government or be related to someone who does. Naturally, these +people aren't going to vote for anyone who promises "change" +because that could mean that Uncle Fred will be out of a job. + + ----- INTEL BITTIES ----- + +PHOTOGRAPHY APPEAL. If you have visited the Rachel area and lost +film to the Lincoln County Sheriff's Dept. (for "processing"), +please get in touch with us. (If you have already talked to us, +then reaffirm your presence.) This information could be important +in upcoming court cases. + +PAPOOSE VIEWPOINT DISCOVERED. Papoose Lake, the mysterious and +inaccessible area 15 miles south of Groom where Bob Lazar says he +worked with alien craft, isn't as invisible as previously +supposed. You can see the Papoose lake bed from at least one +mountain far to the south, near US-95. Unfortunately, the +distance from the viewpoint to the lakebed is about 45 miles, so +you won't make out much without a good telescope--but at least you +can say you've seen it. tmahood@netcom.com and spouse were the +first to visit the viewpoint, discovered with the help of a +mystery source we shall call "C". For a free copy of tmahood's +"Mt. Sterling Guide" describing the area, send him an email +message. (The internet impaired can send us $1 for a copy by +regular mail, anywhere in the world.) + +MONTEL ROASTED ON 20/20. THE MONTEL WILLIAMS SHOW [DR#15 & #16] +got its just desserts on a 9/16 report on ABC's 20/20. In a story +on talk-show ethics (or lack thereof), 20/20 recounted the story +of a woman lured onto the Montel show under false pretenses, who +was then told, on the air, that her sister had had "mercy sex" +with her former boyfriend. Pure sleaze, but we knew that already. + +WWW SITE NEEDED. The "World Wide Web" is quickly becoming the +hottest thing on the internet. (America On-Line promises to offer +it soon.) You type in a starting address, and a document is +displayed on the screen. Click on a highlighted word in the text, +and another document is displayed, providing more details. It's +one of the best ways we've seen to organize complex information +and make it available to the public. + +Roland@cac.washington.edu has set up a WWW structure for back +issues of the Desert Rat [See footer below.] but the Research +Center has been working on a more elaborate structure pulling +together a lot of diverse info on Area 51 and related topics (for +example: a special section devoted entirely to "Modern Munchausen" +Sean David Morton). Our only problem is that we need a reliable, +low cost Web server to keep our files on. We've tried some +commercial internet providers but haven't found what we need. We +welcome advice from other users in finding a "home" for this +material. (We would need direct FTP write access and require 5mg +to start. Also, we want to be totally "above board"--paying by +the mg if we have to--so we can stay at this server permanently.) + +NAME CHANGE. To reduce the confusion of our many names and +aliases, our mail order arm, formerly "Secrecy Oversight Council," +has changed its name to "Area 51 Research Center." Frankly, the +entire "Council" could eat from the same bowl, so we thought it +would be more direct to call ourselves by the simpler moniker. +"Secrecy Oversight" is still our game, but it seems that Area 51 +will remain our focus for some time to come. + + ----- ASK PSYCHOSPY ----- + +Dear Psycho: + + "Are there any female 'Cammo Dudes'? If not, why not, and does +affirmative action apply?" + + --stephenh@netcom.com + +Dear Stephenh: + + The C.D. force would never allow no bitches. Mostly solid +white males, the pride of our country. You can see the Dudes' +point of view, can't you? It is doubtful that women could keep up +with the rigorous physical demands of the job (sitting around in +Jeep Cherokees all day) or that they have the brainpower to outwit +those clever tourists. Remember Tailhook? That's EXACTLY what +happens when you let women in. We can't compromise national +security or the integrity of the force. (Now don't get us wrong, +we don't mind a piece of "A" now and then, but sometimes it's just +too close for comfort.) + + Psycho + + ===== SUBSCRIPTION AND COPYRIGHT INFO ===== + +(c) Glenn Campbell, 1994. + +This newsletter is copyrighted and may not be reproduced without +permission. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2858.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2858.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..406aa0c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2858.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +SUBJECT: PROOF OF LIFE IN SPACE! FILE: UFO2858 + + + +BY KEN O'HARA for SUN + + +Humanoid bodies found in meteor, revel scientists + + + +A giant meteor that slammed into Australia is being hailed as the scientific +discovery of the century - because it contains absolute proof of human life on +ohter planets! + +When scientists sliced open the meteor, they found mumified fossils of humans +- alien human beings! + +"We found four mummies inside the meteor when we cut it open," says Dr. Thomas +Bennett. + +Questions + +"There was great excitement, as you can imagine. We instantly realized we had +stumbled upon the answer to one of the great unanswered questions of all time: +Is there life on other planets? + +"The answer is yes! We have the preserved bodies to prove it. They are human +remains - and they came from a galaxy billions and billions of miles away. + +"The remains we recovered are of a mother, father and two children, a boy and +a girl. + +Healthy +"Tests show it's about 3,000 years since they were entombed - possibly by a +volcanic eruption. The red rock is definitely volcanic. + +"They all seemed to be very healthy and had little or no body fat. From our +preliminary examinations, they were in far better physical condidtion that +humans on earth. + +"The mummies show no traces of heart disease or cancer, the two most potent +killers on earth. So perhaps these remains will help us improve life on our +planet, as well as providing us with valuable information about life on other +planets." + +Analyzing + +Scientists from the University of Melbourne are now painstakingly analzing the +dead aliens from the meteor which landed near the small town of Nullagine. + +"We have to determine how old they are and the cause of death," said Dr. +Bennett. + +"But one thing is definite. They provide us with irrefutable proof that human +life exists on other planets besides Earth." The university has been ordered +by the nation's securityh department to keep the findings secret. + +"We have been told the medical breakthroughs that may result are so valuable +to Australia that we must keep quiet," says a Sun source. However the same +source managed to smuggle to the Sun Australian representative a sensational +picture of one of the bodies that is till entombed in rock. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2859.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2859.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..083a04d9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2859.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +SUBJECT: SPACE ALIENS ARE REALLY DEMONS FROM HELL! FILE: UFO2859 + + + +BY ROYCE CAINE for WWN + + + +Washington - People have been let to believe that space aliens come from +distant planets, but nothing could be further from the truth. + +In fact, these creatures are demons from Hell - and a top-secret CIA study +proves it! + +The study also suggests that aliens are showing up on Earth in record numbers +to help Satan fight the final battle between good and evil, which has already +begun. + +"Hollywood and other irresponsible parties have duped the public into +believing that extraterrestrials have the best interests of mankind at heart," +Dr. Paul Minart, the famed physicist and UFO researcher, told reporters. + +"The fact is, space aliens are demons from Hell and UFOs are the 'chariots' +that enable them to ravel to the ends of the Earth, spreading their evil +influence. + +"But you certainly don't have to take my word for it. A long-term study +conducted by the CIA proves it." + +The study in question was completed in 1993, but it took CIA experts the +better part of two years to analyze the evidence and conclude that +extraterrestrials are demons from Hell. + +Nobody in Washington is talking, least of all the White House and the CIA. But +Dr. Minart produced heavy documentation, including internal CIA memos dating +back to 1971, to support his claims. + +According to the expert, the CIA had reason to believe that space aliens werre +demonic forces as early as 1967. By late 1969, the agency had persuaded key +membes of Congress to set aside a secret reserve of cash for an allout +investigation. + +As years passed, the investigative team was able to confirm over 200 close +encounters around the world. + +By 1984, they had attributed dozens of brutal murders and thousnads of +injuries to aliens. + +And a growing body of evidence indicated that the aliens were demonic - evil +entities from Hell. + +"The first hard evidence came from the wreckage of a 'starship' that crashed +in the Arizona desert in 1975," said Dr. Minart. + +"There were no survivors. But in the debris, investigators found a Holy Bible +with the text written backward and numerous symbols of the occult. + +"The UFO appeared to have been piloted by a crew of four. + +"Three of the bodies were burned to a crisp. + +"But one was intact - and had cloven hoves for feet. + +"In a broader context, investigators charted UFO and alien activity around the +world. They found that aliens appeared with great frequency in war zones and +places plagued by internal strife, drought, disease and pestilence. + +"The obvious suggestion is that the aliens had a hand in the problems. + +"After consulting clergymen and theologians, including some of the best minds +at the Vatican and in the United States, the investigators decided that aliens +are troops for Satan in the final battle between good and evil, which +apparently has already begun. + +"As farfetched as the idea might sound to some people, it certainly fits with +the evidence. + +"As those of us in the UFO field know all too well, there has never been any +real proof that aliens come from outer space. + +"All we've really been able to say is that they aren't of this Earth. + +"Now, of course, all bets are off. + +"If the CIA is right, we can no longer sit back and observe alien activity on +Earth. We know what they are here for. + +"And we know that if we value life, if we value hope and all that is good in +the world, we have to mobilize - and fight." + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2860.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2860.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..575735c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2860.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +SUBJECT: SPACE ALIEN DOCTORS CURE BOY'S RARE BLOOD DISEASE FILE: UFO2860 + + + + +BY TANYA BRODER for WWN + + + +Corpus Christi, Texas - Little Benjamin Francel was dying of a rare blood +disease until he was miraculously cured by two strangers - a pair of space +aliens who treated him aboard their flying saucer! + +The 5-year-old boy was taken onto the gleaming spaceship after his ET docs +landed near him while he was playing in a suburban park. The bizarre green- +skinned creatures returned to treat the boy more than a dozen times before +they pronounced him cured and told him goodbye. + +"The doctors say they can't explain what helped my Bennie, but he and I both +know," said Marcia Fancel, the boy's mother. "I saw the spacemen take my boy +into their ship - and I saw how they made him better." + +The boy's bizarre story was revealed in a newslette on UFO sightings. The +child's Texas doctors were interviewed for the piece and a series of +photographs were taken reenacting the other worldly encounters. Bennie's +doctors said that at the time the child first met his space alien physicians +on Jan. 3, 1993, he was expected to live only a few months. + +"All our efforts to halt the advance of his blood disease had failed and there +was absolutely nothing to be done for him," said one of the boy's doctors, who +spoke off the record about the case. "We asked Mrs. Francel to take him home +from the hospital and bring him back if his condition severely worsened. We +expected we'd see him back in a matter of weeks." + +But invredibly, Bennie didn't die - because help came to the boy from a planet +millions of light-years away. The boy was playing with his mother in a quiet +corner of the park when suddenly a silver spaceship appeared out of nowhere +and touched down near them. + +The two watched in awe as a ladder descended from the craft and two strange +creatures with large heads and greenish skin emerged. + +"We were afraid at first, but they calmed us," Mrs. Francel recalled. "I +understood that they had come to help Bennie. When they took him up into their +ship, I wasn't worried at all." + +The kindly creatures treated Bennie with shots of a strange yellow liquid, +brought him back to his mom and zoomed away. Mrs. Francel says she noticed a +difference in her boy right away. + +"He had been pale and listless before the spacemen took him in," she said. +"Afterward he was bright-eyed and energetic. I took him home and he ate +everything in sight, where before he had no appetite at all." + +The grateful divorcee says the aliens returned about once a month to treat +Bennie and he got steadily better. + +In December 1994, she took the child back to his doctors - and they told her +he appeared completely cured! + +"Most people don't believe our story, of course, but we don't care," she told +the UFO Hotline reporter. "Bennie is a healthy little boy with a long life +ahead of him now, thanks to his friends from outer space. That's all that +really matters." + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2861.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2861.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..db77c42b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2861.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,343 @@ +SUBJECT: True Believers Pursue Search for UFOs, Aliens FILE: UFO2861 + + + +By Billy Cox, +FLORIDA TODAY +Sunday, January 1, 1995 + + Moments after shuttle Columbia's solid rocket boosters disengaged on the +clear blue morning of Oct. 18, 1993, video cameras caught a bright, white +image that appeared to wheel diagonally, in the opposite direction from the +orbiter's path. + + Replaying the brief sequence on their evening news, WFTV-Channel 9 anchors +in Orlando said some people thought it was a UFO, but NASA wrote it off as a +reflection of Earth. "How the Earth got in the camera shot, I don't know," +joked Bob Opsahl. + + Joe Jordan of Merritt Island studies that taped broadcast from a meeting +room in the Cocoa library. He jabs the VCR pause button. + + "Now, I've gotta be careful about this next part," Jordan says. "I've got +a buddy out there -- who shall remain anonymous -- who works with the camera +crew at Lockheed. When this blip went across the screen over NASA Select, +he said that calls started coming in from officials wanting to know about +this intruder in restricted air space. + + "He knew they had something I'd be interested in, so he made a copy and +got it to me within hours." + + The next segment -- same sequence, slightly enlarged, slowed down then +reversed--shows an elliptical object, perhaps even domed, racing from the +southeast to the northwest portion of the monitor. + + Jordan, a field investigator for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), the +nation's largest UFO research group, sent the tape to headquarters in +Seguin, Texas, for analysis. Results were inconclusive, but they indicated +the image was three-dimensional, as opposed to a lens flare. + + "I've talked to three eyewitnesses who recall seeing the thing before SRB +separation," Jordan says. "They told me it appeared metallic, that it was +reflecting the sunlight. + + "So I think we've got a problem. It's one thing to have saucers flying +hover a cow pasture. But over Kennedy Space Center? Now I've got a security +situation. And who wants to talk about that?" + + Greg Katnik, KSC's lead film analyst, doesn't recall the event. In 11 years +of analyzing launch and landing footage, Katnik insists he never has seen any +shuttle-related images that couldn't be explained. Nor has he ever been told +to suppress information. + + "We've seen things, over the years, that were unusual from an optical +standpoint, but nothing we couldn't figure out," Katnik says. "In this +instance, it sounds like it could've been a seagull that got caught In the +frame. When your camera is trying hard to focus on a shuttle that's on the +brink of hyper-infinity, near-foreground objects can get easily distorted." + + Still, distrusting Americans -- such as the grass-roots gathering that +meets the third Sunday of each month at the Central Brevard Library in +Cocoa--are mobilizing behind growing suspicions that the UFO phenomenon is +the government's best kept secret. + + And interest is accelerating. + +Beginning of a revolution + + Sixty-two-year-old Jenna Bartlett of Edgewater founded UFO Forum of Florida +in March 1993. Today, she says, anywhere from 40 to 90 curiosity-seekers +attend admission-free public meetings across central Florida for lectures +and videos. + + Bartlett no longer fears ridicule. The bumper sticker on her camper +van ("UFOs Are Real -- Ask NASA") is an open provocation. + + The whole purpose of these meetings is to get the word out, to 'open people +up to the possibility that extra terrestrials aren't out there anymore -- +they're here. And they're not going away," she says. + + They were supposed to have gone away in December 1969. That's when the U.S. +Air Force terminated Project Blue Book, its 22-year official study of UFOs. +After logging 12,618 reports, the Air Force listed 701 as legitimate "un- +explaineds." + + Even so, whatever they were 'Blue Book concluded their mystery did not +represent advanced or unconventional technology, nor did they pose a national +security threat. + + But 1994 -- exactly a quarter century later--was a watershed season. UFOs +were everywhere. + + They were on CBS, NBC, CNN, Omni magazine, Popular Mechanics. They lit up +the entire electronic spectrum, from global Internet chatter to FAA radar +screens in Michigan. They hovered and streaked and darted like phantoms +across home videos aired by the likes of "Encounters," "Unsolved Mysteries," +and "Sightings." They excited activists to picket the Pentagon and the +offices of political leaders. + + And from the media overload cluttered with half-truths and shadows emerged +television's cult hit of the season, "The X-Files," whose laconic messages +-- The Truth Is Out There, Trust No One, Deny Everything -- merely echoed +the erosion of public faith in the status quo. + + "What we're talking about is a revolution," says Michael Corbin, owner and +director of Paranet, the nation's oldest and largest UFO related computer +bulletin network "We're in the beginning of a revolution." + + The Official Word + + The first bomb went off in January 1994. It was a delayed-fuse device, 47 +years long, coiling backward into the ghost winds of a New Mexico desert, +where the flying saucer era began. + + In July 1947, the Army Air Force base at Roswell, N.M., announced it had +recovered a "flying disc" that crashed in the desolate outback. Within hours, +the Eighth Air Force headquarters in Fort Worth, Texas, revised that claim, +saying it was only a weather balloon. + + But on-site investigators described weird debris that couldn't be burnt or +broken, foil-like material that tlattened itself out after being crumpled, +lightweight I-beams inscribed with heiroglyphics. There were whispers of +tiny extraterrestrial corpses. + + Rural neighbors were alarmed by military security checkpoints in the middle +of nowhere. And years later, retired Air Force Gen. Thomas DuBose went on +record -- wreckage scraps were flown to Washington, D.C., and the weather +balloon story was a hoax he perpetrated to neutralize the media. + + Following the popularization of the story in the 1980s and early '90s, +uneasy New Mexicans began pressing U.S. Rep. Steven Schiff, R-N.M, to resolve +the issue. + + Schiffs inability to acquire relevant Air Force documents led him to appeal +to the General Accounting Office. + + The GAO launched its investigation last January. + + In September, the Air Force issued an unsolicited response "intended to +serve as the final report related to the Roswell matter." Known as the Weaver +Report, for its author, the 25 page paper said what really happened in '47 +was the held retrieval of classified science called Project Mogul. Mogul was +a top-secret, balloon-launched train of sensors designed to sample high +altitudes for evidence of Soviet nuclear testing. + + Although many major newspapers accepted the Weaver Report uncritically +("Saucer Debris Was of This Earth"-- The New York Times, "1947 UFO Finally +Identified"--USA Today, a careful read reveals egregious contradictions and +selective omissions. + + The GAO was unconvinced. Its investigation continues, and the debate rages +on. + +The Media Investigation + + In its ongoing series on UFOs -- called Project Open Book -- Omni magazine +invited readers to sign the Roswell Declaration, a petition demanding an +executive order to declassify ET-related secrets. + + Omni editor Keith Ferrell says signed petltions have arrived by the box +load into the magazine's Greensboro, N.C., offlce. He suspects the tally may +surpass l0,000 when the counting begins this year. + + The magazine intends to formally present the petitions to the White House. + + "Our initiative is simply to open the books," Ferrell says. "We're not +taking an editorial stance one way or the other, but we do want to get a +lot of the superstition and myth and foolishness out of the way. So we've +decided to put our journalistic credibility and prestige on the line, +and we're taking a rational look at what's there." + + In the information vacuum of classified military operations -- called +"black projects"--rumors nourish like weeds. The most controversial +speculation contends tne military is attempting to engineer recovered UFO +technology into its arsenal at the hyper-secretive Groom Lake Test Facility +in southern Nevada. + + The March issue of Popular Science profiled the paranoia blooming around +the complex -- variously known as Area 51 and Dreamland -- and its bid to +acquire an additional 4,000 acres on a distant mountain range during this +post-Cold War era of military down-sizing. The December edition of Popular +Mechanics addressed the military's flying saucer prototypes and other black +technologies emanating from Groom Lake. + + "What struck us most," Popular Mechanics opined, "is how much Air Force +secrecy -- both at Area 51 and at Roswell -- has done to undercut its own +denials. 'They lied about the first balloon,' goes the word around Roswell. +'Why believe them this time?' " + + In October, CNN sent talk show host Larry King for a two-hour live remote +broadcast from outside Dreamland. Among those King interviewed were former +Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater from Arizona, the patriarch of American +conservatism. + + Goldwater told how the late Gen. Curtis LeMay, then chairman of the Joint +Chiefs of Staff, tlew into a pique when Goldwater asked for access to a +chamber at Ohio's Wright-Patterson AFB's Foreign Technology Division, rumored +to have been a depot for the early Roswell debris. Goldwater never asked +again. + + But if, in fact, a lid of high-level secrecy is nailed tight atop the UFO +mystery, videotaped sightings continue to press against the wall of denial. + + Bob Kiviat, coordinating producer of "Encounters" on the Fox Network, calls +ratings of his fledgling, limited-run show "very good," despite its suicide +slot opposite "60 Minutes" on Sunday night. A majority of the format is +devoted to UFOs, and much of that is fueled by hand-held cam corders. + + "With the proliferation of video cameras, more and more UFO footage is +starting to come out. And what we're documenting is a world-wide phenomenon," +Kivat says. "We are a news magazine and we take this subject seriously. We +consult with photo experts who take this seriously as well, some of whom are +affiliated with NASA." + + In fact, the most chilling UFO revelation of 1994 was featured on ABC's +"Prime Time Live" in November. + + When ABC peered into UFO secrets inside the former Soviet Union, it +discovered, among other things, a narrowly avoided nuclear incident in the +Ukrainian town of Usovo in 1983. + + Hundreds of residents reported seeing a 900-foot disc that spent two +hours or so gliding above the city. Lt. Col. Vladimir Katunoff described how +the object hovered over the ICBM missile silo he commanded. For 15 seconds, +Soviet technicians lost control of the post; the display panels lit up and +indicated the nuclear warheads were preparing to launch. The red-alert +status receded as soon as the UFO disappeared. A damage-control in- +vestigation detected no equipment failure. + + "We're going to see more and more of these reports coming out of Russia, +because they're so broke they're actually selling formerly declassified UFO +military documents," says Don Ecker, research director for UFO -magazine in +Sunland, Calif. + + "We've already got one of their top SDI scientists on record admitting +they've been observing objects entering and leaving Earth's atmosphere for +the past 30, 40 years. We haven't heard the end of it." + +The Information Gap + + Just as information technology -- fax machines, satellite dishes -- +contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union, Denver's Michael Corbin +sees the same forces assaulting the domestic containment web surrounding the +UFO phenomenon. + + In 1986, Corbin founded PARANet, the first computer bulletin board to +discuss UFOs. ln 1990, what began as a 6 personal computer link up plugged +into Internet, the global telecommunications giant. + + "I think it's safe to say that we're now in every country in the world," +Corbin says. "I'd say, conservatively, more than 100,000 PC users have +access to PARANet." + + Corbin says PARANet gives ordinary citizens access to scientific and +academic discussions on UFOs, plus an information-exchange forum offering +investigators immediate data on incidents across the world. + + "In 1947, the government acted quickly to contain the crash at Roswell," +Corbin said. "But unlike '47, when the authorities were able to censor the +wire services, there's less of an ability to conceal data and information in +the event of another incident like that. They'd have to shut the whole thing +down. But we're too big, we have no geographical boundaries anymore." + + If the surge in PC-UFO chatter reflects mass cynicism in government, it +also may suggest a loss of faith in the conventional media's ability to cover +this complex subject. Pete Theer, who runs MUFON's bulletin board, MUFONet, +says computer networking may render traditional news outlets obsolete. + + "TV, radio, and newspaper coverage is critical, no doubt about it," +Theer said. "But their coverage tends to be superficial, and there's +often a significant time-delay involved. The appeal of PCs is that the +information you can get is virtually instantaneous. + + "Somebody in Scotland, for instance, uploads an article about a local +sighting wave there, and you can download it virtually the next day in the +States. That's information American wire services probably wouldn't carry, +anyway." + + In 1991, Ed Komarek of Thomasville, Ga., co-founded Operation Right To +Know. Since then, he and several hundred activists have picketed the White +House in an effort to force the government to open its UFO files, and provoke +media scrutiny of the issue. In 1994 ORTK's pickets marched outside the +Pentagon, as well as the offices of Sen. Sam Nunn, D-Ga., and Sen. Barbara +Boxer, D-Calif. + + "It's going to lake the kind of media coverage we're seeing in the O.J. +Simpson case to do the job, where you follow every minute detail back to its +original source," Komarek said. "This is a political problem. But the +politicians are going to be the last ones on board. Only the mass media has +that power to break it open." + +Science and UFOs + + But 1994 indicated the phenomenon may involve another problem, as well. +Pulitzer Prize winning Harvard psychiatrist John Mack put his professional +neck on the line with Abduction: Human Encounters With Aliens. + + From the subjective and densely complicated depths of hypnotic regression, +Mack plumbed the minds of "experiencers," patients who claim to have been +pirated aboard UFOs and prodded like lab rats by aliens. He took their +stories at face value, and interpreted them as a constructive entree into +meta-physics. + + Blasted by critics for a susceptibility to "false memory syndrome," +Mack's work nevertheless does have a sympathetic audience. + + In 1992, 150 mental health professionals from across the world attended a +closed-door symposium at Massachusetts Institute of Technology to discuss the +emergence of the alien-abduction syndrome. + + Findings from that conference are scheduled to be made public this +year, according to Richard Boylan. + + Boylan, a clinical psychologist in Sacramento, Calif., recently rounded +the non-profit and non-funded Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists. + + The new network counts 60 members, and ACCET's first seminars are scheduled +for the western United States this year. + + In May, Boylan says ACCET will participate in a three-day, international +conference in Washington D.C., titled "When Cosmic Cultures Meet." The idea, +Boylan says, is to discuss principles of conduct between Earthlings and +aliens when the UFO reality is acknowledged by the government. + + "Lest you think this is some snake-oil event, we've invited people like the +Clintons, Billy Graham, the Dalai Lama," Boylan says. "And the whole thing is +put together by the Human Potential Foundation, which is financed by +Laurance Rockefeller." + + Millionaire and conservationist Rockefeller, according to Boylan, has +attempted to get the Clinton administration to examine the UFO situation and +lift the security veil. + + "If you thought 1994 was a busy year," Boylan says, "wait 'til '95.- +You ain't seen nothing yet." + +--- END OF FILE --- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2862.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2862.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0b0d6d31 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2862.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,723 @@ + +SUBJECT: ENCOUNTER IN THE DANDENONG FOOTHILLS FILE: UFO2862 + + + + + AN EXTRAORDINARY ENCOUNTER IN THE DANDENONG FOOTHILLS + By Bill Chalker + (International UFO Reporter, Sept/Oct 1994, Vol 19, No 5) + Reproduced with permission of the author. + +As a scientist I am always aware of the maxim that extraordinary +claims require extraordinary evidence. To date Mainstream UFO +events have revealed some compelling evidence for their physical +reality. The challenge for researchers has always been to determine +if that evidence is consistent with an alien reality. Comparable +evidence to support the reality of abduction events has been lacking +Or relatively uncompelling. + +In my two decades of research into Australian abduction claims, it +has been difficult not to hold the position that abduction cases have +perhaps told me more about the human condition than they have about +UFOs. What follows, however, is a report On an affair which may +amount to evidence for a reality behind abduction reports. + +Kelly Cahill, a 27 -year-old housewife and mother of three children, +is a pivotal figure in a remarkable episode which may have much to +tell experiencers and researchers alike. She contacted me on October +4, 1993, seeking assistance in understanding a bizarre experience she +underwent near the outer Melbourne suburban housing estate of Narre +Warren North, in the foothills of the Dandenongs, Victoria, between +Belgrave and Fountain Gate, during the early hours of August 8, 1993. + + +Kelly told me that apart from her husband with her in their car, she +was aware of another vehicle farther down the hill from their own +position. That car contained at least two persons, a man and a woman. +She paid little heed to them at the time because she and her husband +had their attention riveted on a massive UFO which had landed in the +field opposite them. + +Because Kelly lived in Victoria and I live in New South Wales, I +passed details of Kelly's experience on to John Auchettl of Phenomena +Research Australia (PRA) and urged Kelly to contact him. PRA got on +the case immediately . + +John Auchettl and PRA can be contacted at Box 523, Mulgrave North, +Victoria 3170, Australia. Bill Chalker, an IUR contributing editor , +coordinates the UFO Investigation Centre (UFOIC). His address is Box +W 42, West Pennant Hills, New South Wales 2125, Australia. + + +By November 17 PRA had located the man and woman Kelly had seen that +night. It turned out that the couple also had a friend (a woman) with +them. These witnesses took Auchettl to the encounter site, to a spot +consistent with Kelly's description. The group's drawings of the UFO +and entities also closely coincide with Kelly' s. + +Here we have a striking situation. Two groups of persons unknown to +each other have witnessed the same UFO encounter and entities. They +also experienced missing time, and each group has been available to +competent investigators. Independent witnesses have provided +information which enable cross-checking and correlations to reveal a +remarkable amount of similar information. The result is a compelling +case for the reality of the strange events.described. The ontological +status of the events is further strengthened by a range of apparently +related physical traces, including ground traces, a magnetic anomaly, +and effects on some of the witnesses. + +What is perhaps even more extraordinary about this case is that the +second group described seeing yet another car parked farther back +down from them. In it was (it appeared) one male who seemed to be +gazing fixedly toward the encounter site. So we have the situation of +three cars present: Kelly and her husband in one near the top of a +hill, the three-person group (Bill, Jan, and Glenda) another 150 +meters down the hill, and the other car, with one visible occupant, +about 25 to 30 meters farther back. + +The first two cars were parked with their lights off. The other had +its lights on. This circumstance may explain an apparent anomaly, in +that Kelly was able to glance down and spot the second car, with what +to her seemed only two persons (in fact three), but the group of +three could not see Kelly, her husband, or their car. It was a dark +and cloudy night. Evidently Kelly could see the second car only +because it was backlit by the headlights of the third car. + +From the trio' s testimony, investigators could determine the +location of this third car. The male was looking at the UFO's +position through a break in the vegetation cover. + +The trio's evidence coupled with Kelly' s allowed for triangulation +of the encounter site with the UFO. The location was consistent with +the anomalies discovered (to be discussed later). Unfortunately, this +potential additional witness has yet to be found. + +Typically witnesses to these sorts of events are known to each other, +and such relationships often beg the question of whether the +witnessed events have emerged from shared +delusions or even collusion. Through Auchettl, Kelly became aware of +the independent witnesses, but they knew nothing of her existence +until quite recently. Kelly tried hard to persuade Auchettl to give +her the other group' s names, but he refused because he wanted to +maintain the integrity of the testimony. Only when the investigation +was completed did the three learn what Kelly had been saying. So far +they have not attempted to contact her. PRA has uncovered no evidence +of a previous connection between the Cahills and the other group. + +After the encounter Kelly' s recollection faded from conscious +memory, despite animated discussions about it with her husband in the +immediate wake of the incident. Her husband remembered at least the +UFO encounter but not the entities and has not acknowledged the +missing time. It was her husband' s reference to the August 8 event +at a barbecue on September 16 that led to Kelly's initial confused +attempts to reconcile this troubling situation. Kelly found this +temporary amnesia along, especially since she has vivid memories +going all the way back to age two. + +Other events began to be seen in a different and bizarre perspective. +These included a "dream" she had immediately after the encounter, +upon getting home and going to sleep on August 8, and two "dreamings" +in September. Each involved (apparently) the same entities as those +encountered on the road. The latter two "dreamings" had a strange +physical dimension. A further two "dreamings" followed, one on +October 23 and the last during January 1994. + +Alarmed, Kelly sought help with little success from universities and +aviation authorities. The latter gave her two UFO contact numbers, +one in Victoria and mine in Sydney. + +After getting no satisfaction from the Victorian group, she contacted +me, and after our preliminary discussion of her experience, the PRA +investigation commenced. + +What follows is the transcript of an interview Kelly gave to my +associate Robb Tilley on March 21 of this year. + +The details are consistent with those recounted to me on October 4, +1993, in numerous conversations with me since then, with the PRA +investigation, and with a manuscript she is writing about her +experience. + +THE INCIDENT + +My husband and I were driving to my girl friend's place up in the +mountains. It was her daughter's . . . birthday. + +It was just after dark, and we were nearly there, about half an hour +from her place. It takes us about an hour and a half from our place. +It was just after 7. + +[The area has] little bits of field . . . and then you run right into +a major shopping centre. . . . + +My husband drives really fast. . . . I'm just busy looking out the +window . It's turned dark, and I look over towards this field as we +are going past, and I see a ring of orange lights. It was the first +time I ever thought I had seen something that wasn' t normal. . . . I +was going to shut my mouth. I thought, "No, he' s just going to have +a go at me." But a couple of minutes up the road I said, "I swear I +saw a UFO." He said, "Don't be stupid! It was probably a helicopter." +I said, "It wasn't making any noise. It was just sitting on the +ground. Anyway, after a few jibes at me, he forgot all about it, and +we arrived at [my girl friend's place]. + +When we were there, my friends bring up this conversation, about what +I thought I had seen. Her father says, "You think you've seen little +green men or something, . Kelly?" and all this sort of stuff. It was +turned into a joke, and I just totally forgot about it. + +We went out and played bingo. We came back. We had a bit of a problem +about what time we left. As far as my husband's concerned, because we +got home at 2:30 in the morning, it means we must have left atone +o'clock. + +But that night I think we left at a quarter to 12. We got back from +bingo at about 1 1, and we didn't stay for very long because [my +friend's] daughter' s boy friend had just . . . split up with her +and had gone home with the new girl friend . . . and she was really +upset and crying, and we didn't want to stay. So we weren't there for +that long at all. + +THE ENCOUNTER BEGINS + +Anyway, we were driving back down the road in the same stretch. Both +of us,just me and my husband . . . we both saw this ring, mind you . +. . in front of us, hovering above the road. It was just something +sitting there. . . . I couldn't tell what it was. We were at first +far away, but as you got closer to it was sort of . . . well, it +wasn't like the orange light in the field. It was a round shape with +some sort of glass around, or what looked like windows and lights +around the bottom. Because it was dark, you couldn't really tell at +first. But as we got closer and closer, there was no noise or +anything. + +Even my husband's going. "You're right! That's something. That's +very, very strange." And I swear we saw people in there, and then +just as I said to him, "I swear there's people in there," it just +shot off to the left as fast as it could go. I mean it just +disappeared. Within a split second it had gone. + +We kept driving and about a kilometre ahead, all of a sudden, there's +this really, really bright light in front of us, and I've got my hand +up, up above my brow, to look out the window, because it's that +bright, but I can't see anything. + +I said to [my husband], "What are you going to do?" He said, "l'm +going to keep driving." From there, that is the last we remembered +until . . . I knew I was going to see a UFO, you know, I just knew, +because of what we had seen, I'd seen it twice in one night and he +had seen it once . . . and the adrenalin is pumping, the heart is +thumping, I'm so excited. All of a sudden I'm sitting in the car, and +I'm saying to my husband, "What happened?" And he says to me, "I +don't know. We must have gone around a corner or something." By the +time we got home, he was definite of everything, but at that time he +didn't know what happened either. I said to him, "I swear I've had a +blackout," because adrenalin just doesn't disappear in a split second +like that. I mean your heart is going mad! And all of a sudden. . . . + +One thing that really annoyed me was that I could smell vomit. I +couldn't figure out where the smell of vomit was coming from. + +I argue about this half the way home until it started getting +ridiculous, and I ended up just shutting up to stop all the fighting +that was going to come out of it, you know, because we fight like +cats and dogs. . . . + +As we were getting close to our home, about 20 minutes away from +where we live (there was no one on the road), I saw a figure standing +on the side of the road a tall dark figure. It was only for a couple +of seconds, and I didn't relate it to anything until much later on at +all. But it made me turn my head. I kept it in my mind, because it +reminded me of a story I was told when I was a little girl about the +headless horseman on the side of the road . . . because it was on +the side of the road. It wasn't headless or anything,just this tall +black figure. I saw it for only a couple of seconds, and then I +couldn't see it anymore, but I thought I saw it. + +POST ENCOUNTER FALLOUT + +I get home. That night I actually had a dream about UFOs to top it +all off, that something happened . . . but a whole lot of it went out +of my head. + +Kelly and her husband argued about what happened for part of the way +home. They agree they saw a UFO but cannot agree on the feeling Kelly +had of experiencing a blackout or missing time and seeing people. +They also could both smell vomit. Each experienced unexplained +stomach pain. For Kelly it was like a pain from severe muscle fatigue +which radiated from her lower abdomen to the upper shoulders. + +Later, after they got home, Kelly experienced menstrual bleeding and +became quite ill. She had had her period only the week before. +Eventually she entered the hospital with a womb infection. The +doctors there said she must have been pregnant; either that, or she +had had some kind of gynaecological operation. In fact, she had had +neither in recent times. A strange triangular mark was also found on +her abdomen along with a scar. + +Kelly elaborated on these matters: + +But when I got home that night, that's when I found the triangular +mark below my navel, with what I thought was a little laparoscopy +cut, and I also started bleeding that night. Three and a half weeks +later I ended up in hospital. + +. . . [The hospital] actually did a laparoscopy, another laparoscopy. +This was not when I first went in. I went back in later, another six +weeks after that, because I had a lot of pains in my stomach and just +wanted to have it checked to see what it was. And I still had the +triangular mark there. . . . + +They just did a blooming laparoscopy cut right next to it. [There +was] no comment whatsoever. . . . I have a letter from a friend +saying that she saw it. + +CONSCIOUS RECOLLECTIONS + +Kelly's recollections did not come from any hypnosis. + +Indeed she had only one session well after the main investigation had +been completed. It failed to reveal anything of significance. Feeling +that at best she had been only lightly under, she felt the session +had been of little value. + +With regard to the August 8 encounter, she recalls crossing the road +to the paddock, seeing at first one tall black being with glowing red +eyes, then many. These latter seemed to be approaching rapidly, as if +gliding. The large group of tall black beings apparently were split +into two groups, one focused on Kelly and her husband, the other one +on the other people who had also crossed farther down the road. The +rest of her recollection is largely confusing and fragmented. She +experienced voices and blindness. + +Kelly elaborated on how her memory came back: + +We went down to a girl friend's place a little bit later, a few weeks +later, and the subject of UFOs came up, and her husband was saying, +"Oh, I don't think they really exist." It was my husband that said, +"If you had seen what Kelly and I saw, you might change your mind." I +said, "What are you talking about?" You know, if I'd seen something, +I'd have remembered it. I didn't even remember that I had seen it +hovering in the middle of the road. It had been totally blanked out +of my mind. And I search my head for days, because I knew he wouldn't +say something if he didn't mean it. He was telling me, "Remember, on +the way home from [your girl friend's], remember, it wasn't making +any noise?" And I was just sitting there. I couldn't remember it. + +And a few days later, all of a sudden I remembered it! It hit me! And +. . . then I remembered going into the light, and then I couldn't +remember anything else. + +A couple of weeks after that, this started to really bug me, because +I remembered that light, and I remember arguing with him all the way +home, but it was all I did remember. + +I went up to [my girl friend's] house again in October, this time for +her other daughter's . . . birthday, and again we went to bingo. On +the way home from bingo that night, we went along the same road, and +as we passed a certain spot I just got this incredible feeling of +terror go through me, I mean absolute terror. All of a sudden I just +started remembering, and by the next morning I had remembered just +about everything that happened, except there's still missing time +that I can't. + +What we had actually done, we had driven . . . into the light, but +the road curved, and the light we had thought was in front of us was +actually to our right-hand side. It was in the field, and it was +massive. . . . [Estimates put the possible diameter of the UFO at the +"size of a house" or perhaps close to 5O meters.] So it was very big. +Why I knew it was very big was because we could have driven for five +minutes. The road sort of wound around this part. + +You could have driven for five minutes and not had it out of your +sight the whole time. + +Kelly and her husband had a clear, uninterrupted view of a craft of +enormous size. It was much larger than the UFO seen a few minutes +earlier, and it was at ground level in the field at the bottom of a +gully area. + +I asked him to stop the car, and we both got out. I remembered +leaning back in, actually on the floor, to pick up my handbag, +because I didn't go anywhere without my handbag. And that' s one of +the sort of things that triggered off a lot of these memories doing +that. The other thing was telling myself, "You are conscious. This is +real! This is happening! This is real!". . . . + +For a while it was just absolutely terrifying, but you can't help it +because it sounds really wacky. I mean this is not the way it's +supposed to happen at all. . . . + +We crossed over the road. We jumped the gutter, and we walked up. . . +. I looked down the road, and there was another car-a light blue +car-pulled up. Some people got out and went across the road. I only +thought it was two, but it was actually three, but I didn' t pay much +attention. They must have been at least a hundred meters down the +road from us. When you've got something like that in front of you, +and you' we got people down the road . . . well, I was more +interested in what was in front of me than them, so I didn't get any +detail. . . . + +I'm standing there, and we are looking at this thing [for about 3O +seconds]. All of a sudden there is a black figure on the field. It's +about seven foot tall. . . . I knew it was really tall at the time. + +For Kelly this was quite startling. She expected to see a human +being, but this was not human. Kelly tried to use thought as a means +of communication. She was immediately overwhelmed with fear. Its eyes +seemed to turn to a red fire. + +At the distance of about 150 meters, they possessed an extraordinary +luminosity . + +It started coming towards us, only slowly, and it had big red eyes. +It sounds stupid, but it had great big round red eyes, like huge +flies' eyes and they were red like, not like a reflection of red, but +like burning red, like . . . fluorescent stop lights, I suppose, that +sort of real burning red. + +All of a sudden I started screaming out [to my husbands. . . . Now +this has really got me baffled because of the fact that a human being +doesn't know this, so I don't even know how I came out with this, but +I started saying, "They've got no souls." And then I started +screaming, "THEY'VE GOT NO SOULS!" Then all of a sudden there were +heaps of them in the field, not just one, a whole heap of them, and +they started coming towards us . . . faster than a man could run, and +they were gliding off the ground. They got halfway across the field. + +They split up. Some of them went towards the other people [two or +three, Kelly thought]. and some of them [the rest] came towards us. + +Kelly found herself screaming to the other people down the road, +"They're evil! They're going to kill us!" + +The next thing I know, I felt this oomph! in my stomach, right across +here like I was winded, but I was thrown right back, and I was on my +back on the ground. I sat up, with my head between my knees. Here, +I'm trying to stay conscious. I couldn't see. My eyes. . . . It was +all black. + +. . . I'm screaming out to [my husband]. . . . + +Kelly speculated that her "winding" may have been caused by an +electric fence present at the site. That may or may not be true. The +fence may not even have been on at the time. Even if it was, the +power may not have been strong enough to generate the effect she +described. Nonetheless this possibly prosaic incident led her into +confusion over whether the forces she was confronting were "good" or +"evil." + +But the next thing I heard him saying, "Let go of me." His voice was +all sort of cracked up with fear, and I'd never heard that from my +husband. He's not frightened or afraid of anything. . . . + +Then this male voice said, "We [don't] mean you any harm." And then +he said, "Why did you hit Kelly then?" That's the last I heard of [my +husband]. No one else talked except me. I heard the male voice. Then +I heard myself saying, "Oh, God, I'm going to be sick." I've got my +head between my knees, and I just felt, like, violently nauseous. +Then I must have blacked out for a little while. + +I don't remember being sick. Then I remember hearing talk about being +a peaceful people, and I started screaming out, I said, "Don't +believe them! They're going to steal your souls!" I know it sounds so +ridiculous now, but at the time I was hysterically terrified. . . . I +had never felt terror like that. Not even in my worst nightmares had +I experienced terror like that. . . . + +Oh, there's one thing I remember that he said: "I wouldn't harm her. +She's my daughter." Now when I first saw the-on the way up to [my +girl friend's] in the field, the first thing I did was pray. And I +took it as sarcasm straight away. And it sounded like sarcasm. . . . + +It sounded like there was even a small laugh after that. I don't +know-it just wasn't good to me. + +For Kelly, a strong faith in God often involved an ability to get +answers to many of life's situations, albeit sometimes in the most +subtle and unlikely ways. For her the brief observation of a possible +UFO on the way to her girl friend's place on August 7 was perhaps a +glimpse of one of life's mysteries, perhaps even a lesson from God. +So she made a silent prayer which began with "Father." She thought +for a moment, "Wait for me. I'll be back down this way in a few hours." +To put this in context, it should be pointed out that Kelly had long +been on a spiritual quest, anchored in a religious journey and a +desire to understand the great mysteries. + +Though she had little time for organized religions, she had a deep +interest in the great religious works and had studied them, +particularly the Bible, in great detail. Therefore, given her brief +prayer for clarification of the nature of the UFO event on the way up +to her friend, as well as the use of the word Father, she got a sense +of "mockery" when she heard the voice saying, "She is my daughter." + +Anyway, I started screaming and going on about demons trying to steal +people's souls. . . . I like not to admit that it came from my mouth, +but it did. . . . But I'm going to tell it the way it is. + +Next thing I hear him saying, "Would somebody do something about . +her?" And I felt a hand . . . touch my shoulder. It wasn't hard. It +was quite gentle.That's when I absolutely cracked! I'm still sitting +on the ground, and I couldn't see a thing, but I made sure that my +eyes were just fierce. . . . Something snapped in me. Before that I +was crying. All of a sudden something snapped in me, and I got so +angry . Then I started screaming out, "How dare you do this to these +innocent people?" Like it was my fault. Because I was on a big +spiritual search, and I really got the impression that it was my +fault. And I thought, why involve other people?. . . I felt like, +almost like there was a fight for me. Like it was something I had to +do. . . . + +Anyway, I started screaming out stupid things, told them to go back +where they came from. + +Next thing I remember I was sitting in the car. I've still got +missing time. + +When she found herself sitting in the car, her last memory was of +driving into the light. + +THE DREAM OF AUGUST 8, 1993 + +Once she was home and asleep, the night brought a bizarre dream. + +This dream is of interest in that it emerged within hours of the +encounter and it places Kelly back in the encounter. + +The subsequent "dreamings" do not have this quality about . + +them. Nonetheless they were unusual in their own way, for reasons +that will shortly be apparent. + +In the August 8 dream she is on the side of the road with her head +between her knees. She becomes aware that she can see again. A being +is leading her husband down the slope onto the field. + +Throughout the dream she is unable to see the beings above the level +of their elbows. Their limbs seem long and thin. + +Inexplicably convinced that the being with her husband is female, she +tackles it and then blacks out. In the dream she once again regains +consciousness to find herself on the extreme right of the field with +the UFO further down the field to the left. Before her on the ground +is a still body, at first nonhuman, then changing to human. A +middle-aged woman standing further down the field is screaming at +her, "Murderess! Murderess!" She is overcome with grief with no +awareness of having killed anyone. + +Still in the dream, a hand on her shoulder leads her, and she follows +obediently. Eventually Kelly becomes aware that she is in a small +room, with only a small table and a being standing before her. The +being tells her she did not kill anyone and they had to use her sense +of morality to overcome her fear. Kelly has a profound feeling that +she knows this being. On a table behind the being is a Bible, one of +hers, which had disappeared a few weeks before. The being gives Kelly +a strange choice which deepens her suspicion of the beings' motives. +She is told she can come but must leave the Bible behind. In the +dream the being gives her this Bible. + +The dream ends at that point. A few days after the encounter, her +husband found the Bible in the car. + +The "dreamings" mentioned earlier, first interpreted as something +like a ghostly episode, take on a bizarre perspective when Kelly's +recollections flooded back. The first two preceded the point when +more complete recall of the events of August 8 returned. + +THE "DREAMINGS" + +The first started with a presence which warns her to be calm. + +Then a frightening "sucking" sensation begins as if something is +being taken from her. She comes out of the dream terrified and is +confronted by a tall black figure in a floor length hooded cloak, +about seven feet tall, with glowing red eyes. She screams, and the +being disappears. + +Initially Kelly interpreted the being as like a "soul vampire" or the +Grim Reaper. At the time she did not place this incident in a UFO +context, since the memories had yet to resurface. + +In the second "dreaming" she experiences her legs being lifted and +drawn out of the bed. She wakes and once again finds the same or +similar being present, but this time the cloak obscures the eyes. + +When after I did remember it, I had another dream, and these dreams +seemed very physical. I know I'm dreaming, and I've got to wake up +out of them. . . . + +In this particular one, I felt as if my legs were being pulled off +the bed, and it was like I was paralysed from my waist down, and my +legs were being pulled over to the side; yet I could almost use the +top of my body. Then I'm grabbing a pillow, trying to hit my husband, +to wake him up. . . . I'm fighting this. I'm not going to let this +thing drag me off the bed by my legs. Then I woke up and saw it +standing there again! This time the hood covered the eyes, and it +didn't scare me. . . . I was still terrified, but it didn't scare me +quite as much, because each time it scared me, it was that same power +like I felt out in the field that night. + +When I was sitting on the ground, it was like something, almost like +a frequency or a sound vibration or something. And it's getting right +into my head! And I couldn't get it together. Like I was trying to +get my logical thoughts together, not logical, almost conscious +thoughts, and I was fighting it the whole time, which is probably why +I seemed to remember more than my husband or even the other people. + +The third "dreaming" occurred at a friend' s place on October23 (see +front cover). By then Kelly had experienced the flood of +recollections. The two earlier "dreamings" took on an added +significance, especially given the presence of the beings after Kelly +had awakened from her "dreamings." This time she wakes from a +"dreaming" which seems to take the form of a "peak experience" (as +psychologist Abraham Maslow calls it; Richard Maurice Bucke defined +it as the sense of"cosmic consciousness"). She sees apparently the +same creature as before; but unlike earlier manifestations, it is +naked and leaning over her as if about to kiss her navel area. It is +tall, with a head much larger than normal, long and thin arms, with +an abdomen out of proportion to its thin frame, like a child's +stomach suffering from malnutrition. + +Its skin is like gray-black plasticine. Kelly's screams turn into an +"uninterrupted stream of hysteria" and words. + +In the morning she insisted that her husband check under the car. She +had heard a distinct voice during the night urging such a check. He +ignored her request, but their car subsequently suffered such a +problem. + +Numerous other "psychic" events and "electrical disturbances" +followed. Frequently their car started up when no one was inside it. +The vehicle had a kill switch which rendered these events even more +startling and curious. Kelly thought she had developed enhanced +psychic powers. The electrical events apparently ended in January +1994, as did many of the psychic incidents. + +The fourth "dreaming" occurred in January of this year. + +In the dream the bathroom light is blown. There is a sense of +presence. Something persistently tries to grab Kelly's right hand. +Eventually she lets her hand be taken. Immediately she wakes up. Once +again the creature in the black robe is standing by her bedside. It +goes away. It turned out that the light had indeed blown and that +diamond and sapphire rings . + +she wore on her right hand had disappeared. To date they have not +been found. + +OTHER MATTERS + +Other, earlier episodes, experiences, and issues of possible +significance: . From July through September 1993 small orange +fireballs, about the size of tennis balls, frequently hit the windows +of the house. Kelly, her husband, and her mother witnessed the +phenomena. + +o About two and a half years earlier, at Lalor, Kelly had a peculiar + dream in which she moved through a flesh-like hourglass apparatus. + The same night she experienced a "vision" of opening their back door + and seeing a light for a few seconds. Then she blacked out. Kelly + experienced the same sense of power she felt in the field in August + 1993. + +o After the encounter and until July 1994, the Cahill house (built in + 1949) had been the scene of fleeting observations of tall "shadows," + seen by both Kelly and her husband. + +o A bad smell occasionally permeated the house and seemed to move + around. + +THE OTHER WITNESSES + +If the August 8 encounter had revolved only around Kelly, it could be +argued that the experience may have been some sort of psychological +episode. But the presence of other witnesses - a married couple and +their friend, plus a possible other observer in a third +car-forcefully argues for a real encounter. Indeed, the PRA contends +that the focus of the incident was not Kelly but the two other women. + +As in Kelly' s situation, the females in the other group seemed to +play a dominant role. Bill, the male witness in the trio, appears, +like Kelly's husband, to have had only limited involvement. The two +women consciously recalled onboard episodes. They remembered the UFO +and the tall black beings. Their description did not feature the red +eyes Kelly saw. + +For the trio the experience apparently started when they approached +the site. All three could hear a strange noise and suddenly felt ill. +Bill thought he was going to faint. He lost control of the car and +ran off the road, striking a pole. After checking for damage, they +drove off. A few minutes later a speeding car with its high beams on +shot past them. Then another passed. They came to a bridge with a +sharp turn following it almost immediately. Farther along this +section the trio stopped. As all this was going on, Bill's vision was +impaired. Obviously he had Some type of vision as he was driving, but +he was unable to remember seeing the UFO. The two women with him +recall the UFO clearly, and their descriptions closely match Kelly's. + +In some unexplained manner Bill was isolated from the central +experience. He has conscious recall of smells and sounds and +remembers that a lot of activity was going on. He does not recall +seeing anything. He subsequently underwent hypnosis, which expanded +his apparent recollections to seeming onboard components, but once +again these were through the senses of smell and hearing only. + +The two women did not think of theirs as an "abduction" experience. +They felt as if they had exercised free will all through it. Yet the +principal element of their onboard experience was a form of +examination-not, however, visually remembered. Other parts of their +onboard experience exist in visual images and conscious memory. +Hypnosis in their cases appears to have only reinforced what they +recall already. + +The entities did not speak and provided very little information. +Neither woman saw the other or any of the others while in the alien +environment presumably aboard the UFO. Curiously, each was still +aware of what was happening to her companion, ostensibly through +psychic means. + +The trio apparently did not have the complex background experiences +described by Kelly. Their experience seem limited only to the August +8 encounter. + +There is also some physical evidence. PRA found a possible related +ground trace and low-level magnetic anomaly at the encounter site. + +COMMENT + +Kelly has gone on to write her own account of the experience and its +difficult aftermath. In October 1994 John Auchettl and PRA, whose +investigative thoroughness is to be commended, released a +comprehensive report on the affair. + +In this emotionally explosive area it is easy for people to get +caught up in less than satisfactory situations while they attempt to +understand extraordinary experiences. I hope this event and the +documentation that flows from it will be of some help to others in +similar situations. + +The victims of these experiences must not be unrealistically +encouraged by advocates of an alien presence; nor, at the other +extreme, should they be ridiculed by the sceptical among us. They +should be helped to deal with their experiences, whether those +experiences turn out to be prosaic or profound in origin. + +The second part of this report will review the PRA report and examine +in detail the accounts of the other group of witnesses. It will also +consider the physical evidence and provide reflections on the nature +and meaning of this event. + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------- +John Auchettl and PRA can be contacted at Box 523, Mulgrave North, +Victoria 3170, Australia. Bill Chalker, an IUR contributing editor, +coordinates the UFO Investigation Centre (UFOIC). His address is Box +W42, West Pennant Hills, New South Wales 2125, Australia. +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2863.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2863.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..af410692 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2863.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +SUBJECT: RIDDLE IN THE SKY FILE: UFO2863 + + + + +Is it a plane? A planet? Reports of mysterious object revive UFO debate + +Grand Rapids PRESS News Service, January 31, 1995 + +MUSKEGON - They're baaack! + +They may not be alien spacecraft, but less than a year after UFO sightings +stirred West Michigan, new reports have returned of mysterious objects in +the night sky. + +More than a dozen Wolf Lake area residents late Saturday told Muskegon County +Sheriff's deputies they spotted a strange circular object in the northeast- +ern sky. + +Deputies, responding to Suzanne Bowen's call at 439 Grover, saw the intensely +bright thing, too. + +"The object appeared to be circular in shape and seemed to remain in a +stationary position," deputies reported. + +Central Police Dispatch operators reported the sighting to the National UFO +Sighting Center. The National Weather Service told deputies it might be a +"pulsar" - rotating neutron stars. + +But most neighbors who watched Saturday's clear northeastern skies didn't +buy the "pulsar" explanation. They said whatever it was, it emitted an in- +tense white light from which viewers could see hints of red and green. + +"I'm really baffled by whole situation," Bowen said. "It wasn't like +'saucers' or anything like that. It was pretty to watch. It seemed to be +spinning to us." + +Neighbor Sue Kiesten saw the phenomenon, too, and chalked it up to something +more earthbound than interstellar craft. "I think it was an airplane," +Kiesten said. "All we could see was lights blinking, red and green. It was +moving from west to east...like an airplane. + +"We watched it as it went on across the lake and disappeared." + +But Sue Hruskach isn't so sure such a conventional explanation is sufficient. +"It was too bright to be a star," said Hruskach, who believes the bright +light was made up of three objects making a "V" formation. + +The night sky was clear, the temperature cold, sighters said. + +Walter Andrus, director of the Texas-based Mutual UFO Network, said it's +likely the sighting has a natural explanation. "You have planet Mars in the +eastern sky and it has a reddish tinge to it," Andrus said. "The higher it +gets it loses some of its red and it gradually rises as the earth rotates." + +Andrus suggested area residents watch the northeastern and eastern sky +tonight. "If it is Mars, it wlll be there again. If it's not, then it's +something else," Andrus said. "(But) 80 to 90 percent of these things can be +explained." + +Almost a year ago, several West Michigan residents saw a globe-shaped object +that emitted an intense white light travel from the central part of +Michigan's lower peninsula to Holland. + +At the same time, a National Weather Service radar operator saw the "craft" +on his radar scope as a Holland police officer watched whatever it was fly +over Lake Michigan. + +The report drew national attention because of a dramatic tape of the radar +operator's amazed explanations as he watched his screen track the flight of +the still-unexplained phenomenon. + +--- END OF FILE --- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2864.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2864.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b554ac37 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2864.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +SUBJECT: SIGHTINGS FOR JUNE AND JULY 1947 FILE: UFO2864 + + + +SOURCE: UFO Information Service +SUBJECT: Self-explanatory + + Statistical Chart, by States, For June and July, 1947 +________________________________________________________________________________ + + Time of Sighting Number of Objects + + + State Cases Daytime Night Unknown Single Multiple Unknown Witnesses +________ _____ _______ _____ _______ ______ ________ _______ _________ + +California 109 74 16 19 50 53 6 465 +Washington 83 72 9 2 37 43 3 178 +Oregon 54 49 5 - 26 28 - 110 +Idaho 43 39 4 - 27 16 - 510 +Illinois 40 19 12 9 21 19 - 74 + +Colorado 36 30 5 1 19 15 2 80 +Ohio 29 10 16 3 14 13 2 150 +Alabama 28 4 23 1 6 22 - 75 +Wisconsin 27 11 15 1 20 7 - 58 +Texas 27 12 9 6 19 6 2 50 + +Missouri 25 19 5 1 13 12 - 79 +Arizona 23 18 3 2 13 9 1 47 +Michigan 19 8 7 4 9 9 1 560 +New Mexico 17 16 1 - 13 3 1 31 +Utah 16 12 3 1 9 7 - 41 + +New Jersey 15 6 8 1 10 5 - 125 +Arkansas 15 10 3 2 11 4 - 22 +Iowa 14 9 3 2 8 6 - 22 +Massachusetts 14 7 3 4 5 9 - 20 +Oklahoma 14 11 3 - 11 3 - 28 + +Kentucky 14 5 8 1 8 6 - 28 +Indiana 13 5 5 3 5 7 1 31 +Pennsylvania 13 6 5 2 9 4 - 35 +S.Carolina 13 10 3 - 10 3 - 30 +Maryland 10 3 7 - 5 5 - 17 + +Florida 10 6 4 - 5 5 - 22 +N.Carolina 10 5 5 - 8 2 - 20 +Wyoming 8 5 3 - 6 2 - 11 +Louisiana 8 6 1 1 4 4 - 18 +Tennessee 8 6 2 - 7 1 - 12 + +Connecticut 8 4 2 2 1 7 - 18 +Nebraska 8 4 4 - 6 2 - 15 +Kansas 7 3 4 - 5 2 - 18 +New York 7 5 2 - 5 2 - 13 +Nevada 7 5 1 1 5 2 - 37 + +New Hampshire 6 3 3 - 3 3 - 13 +Maine 6 2 4 - 1 5 - 15 +South Dakota 5 4 1 - 4 1 - 7 +Mississippi 5 1 1 3 1 4 - 5 +Vermont 4 - 4 - 4 - - 5 + +Minnesota 4 2 1 1 4 - - 5 +Virginia 3 2 1 - 2 1 - 15 +Montana 2 1 1 - - 2 - 4 +North Dakota 2 2 - - 2 - - 4 +Dist.Columbia 2 2 - - 1 1 - 3 + +Rhode Island 1 - 1 - 1 - - 1 +Delaware 1 1 - - 1 1 - 1 +Alaska 1 1 - - 1 - - 3 +Hawaii 1 1 - - 1 - - 100 +Canada 18 10 5 3 12 3 3 52 + _____ _______ ______ _______ ______ ________ _______ ________ + +Total = 853 546 231 76 468 363 22 3283 + + Cases Daytime Night Unknown Single Multiple Unknown Witnesses + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2865.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2865.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a450bb39 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2865.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,135 @@ +SUBJECT: ROSWELL ERA REVISITED FILE: UFO2865 + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + ROSWELL ERA REVISITED + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ [Provided by Oklahoma MUFON] ³ +³ [From the Norman Transcript, Oklahoma] ³ +³ ³ +³ July 4, 1947 ³ +³ ³ +³ MORE FLYING DISCS REPORTED ³ +³ ³ +³ by United press ³ +³ ³ +³A flight of "flying saucers" has been reported in eastern ³ +³Canada but reaction there to the mystery missiles reported ³ +³earlier in nine states of the United States was "they're ³ +³probably leftovers from the mad hatter's tea party minus ³ +³cups, of course." ³ +³ ³ +³Dr. and Mrs. C.K. Gunn and two friends said they saw strange³ +³objects "traveling at great speed high in the sky" last ³ +³Tuesday near their home at Summerside on Prince Edward ³ +³island. ³ +³ ³ +³Roland Phillipson, one of the four, described the objects as³ +³shapeless, but glistening in the sunlight. ³ +³ ³ +³Father Burke-Gaffney, astronomer and dean of engineering at ³ +³St. Mary's college at Halifax, said the saucers were ³ +³"outside the realm of astronomy." Another Canadian source ³ +³said "It's probably a matter for witch doctors." ³ +³ ³ +³Army research experts in Washington said they can't explain ³ +³the saucers reported whizzing across the sky by persons in ³ +³eight states, but they said they are investigating. ³ +³ ³ +³An Albuquerque, New Mexico Chamber of Commerce official, Max³ +³Hood, reported he saw "a disk-like bluish object following a³ +³zig-zag path in the northwestern sky" over New Mexico on ³ +³July 01. ³ +³ ³ +³Other "saucers" previously were reported seen over a Navajo ³ +³Indian reservation in northwestern New Mexico, and over ³ +³Gallup, near Silver city, Sante Fe, Elephant Butte and ³ +³other points in the state. ³ +³ ³ +³A U.S. meteorologist, E.E. Unger of Louisville, said he saw ³ +³a circular object flying through the air Tuesday night as he³ +³left a neighborhood theater. He said it was moving about ³ +³100 miles an hour, and giving off an orange light. ³ +³Mrs. Louis Goldstein, wife of a deputy sheriff at Monterrey,³ +³California, reported she saw one of the "flying saucers" or ³ +³discs at 7:45 a.m. (PST) today while looking out a window of³ +³her home by Monterrey airport. "I know people will say I'm ³ +³crazy, but I saw a quite-rounded flying object, not ³ +³circular, with a red glow on one edge." Mrs. Goldstein said.³ +³"I saw it for 10 or 15 seconds - then, suddenly it ³ +³vanished." ³ +³ ³ +³Airlines reported no planes in flight in the area at the ³ +³time. The only plane at the airport was grounded. ³ +³The projectiles, variously described as "too fast for an ³ +³airplane and not fast enough for a falling star," "not ³ +³moving at all," and "traveling at great speed," were ³ +³reported seen again Thursday night streaking over Denver. ³ +³ ³ +³It was the third report of the "saucers" this week, while ³ +³persons in Idaho, Oregon, California, New Mexico and other ³ +³states reported seeing various versions of the unexplained ³ +³projectiles last week. ³ +³ ³ +³Mrs. L.M. Wagoner and her eight-year-old son of Sherman, ³ +³Texas reported they saw a flying disc about 7 p.m. Sunday ³ +³while traveling between Dallas and Corsicana. Mrs. Wagoner ³ +³said the disc, about the size of a man's hat, was traveling ³ +³northward and disappeared in a few seconds. ³ +³ ³ +³A Dallas man, Tom Dean, said he and his wife and daughter ³ +³saw a disc-shaped object "going like blue blazes from ³ +³northeast to southwest at cloud level" Tuesday while ³ +³traveling between Dallas and Fort Worth. Dean said it ³ +³resembled a flattened-out balloon and was in sight for 12 ³ +³or 15 seconds. ³ +³ ³ +³A shiny disc, traveling about 150 miles per hour, was seen ³ +³over El Paso, Texas, at 3:30 p.m. MST, Sunday, June 22, ³ +³(NOTE: before the Kenneth Arnold sighting) by Dr. G. Oliver ³ +³Dickson, an optometrist. He said it was shaped a little ³ +³like a blimp, coming to a point at each end. The sun's rays³ +³were not reflected on it, he added. ³ +³ ³ +³Lt. Gov. Donald S. Whitehead of Idaho said today that he saw³ +³a strange comet-like object hanging high in the western sky ³ +³on June 24. That was the day Kenneth Arnold, Boise, Idaho, ³ +³first reported seeing the projectiles over southeastern ³ +³Washington. ³ +³ ³ +³Their stories varied. Arnold had estimated the projectiles ³ +³speed at 1,200 miles an hour. Whitehead said the objects he³ +³and three other witnesses saw "didn't move, but just seemed ³ +³to go below the horizon with the rotation of the earth." ³ +³At Denver Henry Martin and Walter Harrod said they caught a ³ +³brief glimpse of a group of "bright objects" flying at about³ +³5,000 feet Thursday night. Martin said they looked like ³ +³coffee can cups. They were traveling in a southwesterly ³ +³direction, he said. ³ +³ ³ +³State Highway Patrol Sgt. David Menary, of San Francisco's ³ +³Golden Gate Bridge detail, reported seeing a dozen bright ³ +³metal objects "about the size of a football" whiz over San ³ +³Francisco Bay June 24 and fall into the sea. ³ +³ ³ +³Dick Rankin, former Portland, Oregon flyer, said he saw the ³ +³discs high over Bakersfield, California, going from 200 to ³ +³400 miles an hour June 23. There were ten of them in a ³ +³formation flying north, he said. ³ +³ ³ +³At Bath, South Carolina, Jack Reams reported that last week ³ +³he saw a disc 12 inches in diameter, giving off a small ³ +³weird light as it whizzed through the sky at a tremendous ³ +³speed. ³ +³ ³ +³=END= ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2867.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2867.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a223c007 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2867.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +SUBJECT: ABORIGINIES AND ALIENS FILE: UFO2867 + + + + +Date: 12-21-93 (11:52) Number: 1393 of 1395 (Refer# NONE) + + To: ALL +From: SCOTT HALL +Subj: Aboriginies and Aliens +Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) +Conf: SpaceLink (30) Read Type: GENERAL (+) + +Hi All, + +UFO Research Australia +PO Box 229 +Prospect +South Australia 5082 + +Compiled by ~UFO Research Australia (UFORA)~ + + + (C) COPYRIGHT 1989 - Copyright in this book, as a whole, +is UFO Research Australia's (UFORA): +Copyright in individual texts remains with the authors, +who should be approached directly +on all matters relating to their contributions. + + Aboriginal myths incorporate the idea of "sky-beings," with the +~Wandjina~ being perhaps the most interesting from our point of +view. While the Wandjina paintings of the Kimberleys have +received all manner of interpretations, it is fascinating to see +that the indigenous tribes viewed the Wadjina as "the spirit in +the cloud." Indeed, the unique painting style shows a logical +sequence from human figures to stylised representations of +clouds. This duality of anthropomorphic form and "clouds" is +widespread in primitive cultures and finds an arresting parallel +in the biblical accounts, particularly in "Exodus." Therein the +"pillar of fire by night" and "the cloud by day" was given to +alighting on the ground, and, according to the St James +rendering of "exodus," 33, 9-11, we find: "...as Moses entered +into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar descended, and stood at +the door of the tabernacle...And the Lord spoke unto Moses face +to face, as a man speak unto his friends." While this line of +thought is suggestive of superior "sky-beings" acting as +cultural catalysts for primitive societies, I should point out +that making mythological component comparisons, can make for +interesting exercises, full of emotive similarities, but are +purely speculative, and should not be regarded as anything more +(1). + + + The aboriginal shamanistic ~"experience of death and rising +again"~ in the initiation of tribal "men of high degree" finds +some fascinating parallels with modern-day "UFO contactee" lore. +In these situations, a tribesman is set upon by "spirits" and is +"killed" - ritualistically disembowelled. He is then "restored +to life" and informed of his new standing as a tribal "medicine- +man." He is schooled in skills befitting a shaman. While such +accounts are widespread and show wide variety, the following +recorded by Spencer and Gillen is germane to our area of +enquiry: "Then (Munkaninji - a "spirit") took (Kurkutji) away +up into the sky (after the experience of "death and rising +again") and brought him down to Earth, close to his own camp, +where he heard the natives mourning for him, thinking he was +dead. For a long time he remained in a more or less dazed +condition, but gradually he recovered and the natives knew that +he had been made into a medicine-man (2)." + + The Bad aboriginal tribe of the West Kimberleys have a +fascinating "sky being" lore. They revere a supreme being called +~Djmar~. In aboriginal lore the sound of a "bullroarer" - a +roaring wind noise - symbolises the approach of the god. The +original accounts indicate that Djamar's bullroar or "galuguru" +are representations of the "being" itself. Thus, when the +tribal elders led the young initiates to a stony bed of a creek +and showed the holes where Djamar had implanted his "galuguru," +we have the suggestion that, whatever appearance or +manifestation the sky-being took, it left behind a physical +trace of its presence. Eliade quotes E.A. Worms when he +indicates: "Earnestly the old men impress on the youths the +terrible force of the original `tjurunga' (the original +manifestation of Djamar), by pointing out the baldness of the +surrounding hills and the damaged bark of the trees struck by +Djamar when he whirled the bullroar. It smashed the rocks of +the foreshore." After the manifestation of Djamar which left +behind all this damage, the supreme being, Djamar ascended once +again into the sky with his "tjurunga" (3). +[End Quote] + +Merry Christmas, +Scott. + +...I used to say, I'll believe it when _I_ see it. (Ed Walters) + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2868.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2868.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d698fd16 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2868.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,603 @@ +SUBJECT: AERO CLUB IN THE MID 1850's FILE: UFO2868 + + +PART 1 + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + + There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS + on duplicating, publishing or distributing the + files on KeelyNet except where noted! + + October 29, 1991 + + AERO1.ASC + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + We have been looking for tangible information on the Aero Club of + California as it existed in the mid 1850's for years. + In a discussion with one of our users, Mr. Jim Shaffer, he + remembered that he had an article on that very subject + and took the time to type it in and send it up. + Thank you JIM!!! + This EXCELLENT file shared with KeelyNet courtesy of + Jim Shaffer. + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Fate magazine has been in existence for many years and covers + a wide range of subjects, much like KeelyNet. + + If you might be interested in subscribing to this interesting + journal, their mailing address, etc..is: + + FATE + PO BOX 64383 + St. Paul, Minnesota 55164-0383 + + + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + from Fate, May 1973 + + Mystery Airships of the 1800's (Part 1 of 3) + + Part One: "No form of dirigible or heavier-than-air machine was + flying -- or could fly -- at this time." And yet... + + By Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman + + March 26, 1880 was a quiet Friday night in tiny Galisteo Junction, + N. Mex. (now the town of Lamy). The train from nearby Santa Fe had + come and gone and the railroad agent, his day's work finished, + routinely locked up the depot and set out with a couple of friends + for a short walk. + + Suddenly they heard voices which seemed to be coming from the sky. + The men looked up to see an object, "monstrous in size," rapidly + approaching from the west, flying so low that elegantly-drawn + characters could be discerned on the outside of the peculiar + vehicle. Inside, the occupants, who numbered 10 or so and looked + like ordinary human beings, were laughing and shouting in an + + Page 1 + + unfamiliar language and the men on the ground also heard music + coming from the craft. The craft itself was "fish-shaped" -- like a + cigar with a tail -- and it was driven by a huge "fan" or propeller. + + As it passed overhead one of the occupants tossed some objects from + the car. The depot agent and his friends recovered one item almost + immediately, a beautiful flower with a slip of fine silk-like paper + containing characters which reminded the men of designs they had + seen on Japanese chests which held tea. + + Soon thereafter the aerial machine ascended and sailed away toward + the east at high speed. + + The next morning searchers found a cup -- one of the items the + witnesses had seen thrown out of the craft but had been unable to + locate in the darkness. + + "It is of very peculiar workmanship," the _Santa Fe Daily New + Mexican_ reported, "entirely different to anything used in this + country." + + The depot agent took the cup and the flower and put them on display. + Before the day was over, however, this physical evidence of the + passage of the early unidentified object had vanished. + + In the evening a mysterious gentleman identified only as a + "collector of curiosities" appeared in town, examined the finds, + suggested they were Asiatic in origin and offered such a large sum + of money for them that the agent had no choice but to accept. The + "collector" scooped up his purchases and never was seen again. + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Vangard note....... + + We found more on this interesting case in a doctoral + dissertation by Mr. T. E. Bullard, published in 1982 under the + name of "Mysteries in the Eye of the Beholder." Chaper X - + Loose in an Airship - The Age of Phantom Dirigibles and Ghost + Airplanes, 1880-1946. + + Page 205 + + "Several precocious flying machines sailed the skies during + 1880. In late March several citizens of the unlikely place of + Galisteo Junction, New Mexico heard voices overheard and saw a + fish-shaped balloon driven by a fan-like apparatus. + + A cup and several other artifacts fell from the ship as it + passed, but the next day a collector of curiosities, a man + unknown in town, appeared and paid a large sum of money for + the items. + + The story ends on this note of mystery, BUT THE FOLLOWING WEEK + another installment CLARIFIED THESE STRANGE PROCEEDINGS. + + A party of tourists which included a wealthy young Chinaman + stopped in the vicinity and found the stranger engaged in + archaeological work. The young man grew excited on seeing the + articles dropped from the airship, because among among them + was a note in his fiancee's hand, and he explained that + + Page 2 + + CHINESE EXPERIMENTS IN FLYING HAD AT LAST SUCCEEDED, meaning + the airship which crossed the skies of Galisteo Junction was + THE FIRST FLIGHT OF a CHINA-TO-AMERICA airline. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Of course the story of aviation does not begin on December 17, 1903, + the date of Orville Wright's 12-second aerial hop at Kitty Hawk. + Long before that scientists and inventors had struggled to unlock + the secrets of powered flight and to build what an 1897 issue of + _Scientific American_ called the "true flying machine; that is, one + which is hundreds of times heavier than the air upon which it rests, + (and flies) by reason of its dynamic impact, and not by the aid of + any balloon or gasbag whatsoever." + + But nothing in the early history of flight tells us what a huge + airborne cigar was doing over New Mexico in 1880, especially as it + "appeared to be entirely under the control of the occupants and... + guided by a large fan-like apparatus," and also could ascend with + startling speed. + + Its "monstrous size" and its propeller clearly indicate it was + heavier than air, but such a flying machine didn't then exist + according to British authority Charles H. Gibbs-Smith: "Speaking as + an aeronautical historian who specializes in the periods before + 1910, I can say with certainty that the only airborne vehicles, + carrying passengers, which could possibly have been seen anywhere in + North America... were free-flying spherical balloons, and it is + highly unlikely for these to be mistaken for anything else. No form + of dirigible (i.e., a gasbag propelled by an airscrew) or heavier- + than-air flying machine was flying -- or indeed *could* fly -- at + this time in America." + + Nevertheless, mysterious "airships" were seen in many parts of the + world in the last half of the 19th Century and the early years of + the 20th. And plans for the construction of such craft were not + unknown. + + In 1848 gold fever seized America. On January 24 a workman + discovered the precious metal in Sutter's millrace in California's + Sacramento Valley. Within weeks the entire Pacific coast knew about + it and a few months later "gold" was on the tongue of every + easterner who ever dreamed of easy fortune. + + Getting to those goldfields, however, was a problem, for the inland + parts of the young nation were largely unsettled. A unique solution + -- air travel -- came from "R. Porter & Company," a firm which + listed its address as Room 40 of the Sun Building in New York City. + In the latter part of 1848 the company distributed an advertising + flyer in the eastern United States which promised more than it ever + delivered. + + Touting "THE BEST ROUTE TO THE CALIFORNIA GOLD!" the flyer read in + part that the company was "making active progress in the + construction of an 'Aerial Transport' for the express purpose of + carrying passengers between New York and California. + + "It is expected to put this machine in operation about the first + of April, 1849, and the transport is expected to make a trip to the + + Page 3 + + gold region and back in seven days..." + + On the flyer the "aerial locomotive" is illustrated -- a huge cigar- + shaped device, identified as a "gasbag," with a tail. Under it, + attached with "sturdy material arrows can't puncture," is a + similarly-shaped car with windows in its midsection. + + "Snug gondola with benches for 50 or more passengers," the caption + reads. From the top of the gondola stretches a long pipe which is + identified as "a steam engine for controlled propulsion through + sunny skies at 60 miles the hour." + + Except for this pipe, entrepreneur Porter's vessel is almost a dead + ringer for the type of "UFO" widely reported in the late 1800's and + early 1900's which came to be called "the airship," although + obviously there had to be more than one of them and they did not all + look alike. But in the advertisement of an obscure company lie the + first hints of a bizarre mystery which is staggering in its + implications. * + + * [We do not pretend to "solve" this mystery. What we offer + instead are possibilities suggested by a wide range of often + conflicting evidence complicated by the distance in time + separating us from the events described (which makes firsthand + investigation impossible in all but rare instances).] + + During the 1850's mysterious "airships" regularly crossed the skies + of Germany and just before that, probably in the year 1848, an + enigmatic young German named C. A. A. Dellschau immigrated to the + United States. + + Dellschau's own testimony places him in Sonora, a California mining + town, in the 1850's. Where he might have been in the decades after + that is unknown. We do know, however, that about the turn of the + century he married a widow and took up residence in Houston, Tex., + where he lived in virtual seclusion. He had no friends; by all + accounts his quarrelsome disposition kept everyone at a distance. + + Dismissed as an eccentric by the few who knew him Dellschau devoted + hours to the compilation of a series of scrapbooks filled with + clippings, drawings and cryptic notations. He died in 1924 at the + age of 92. + + Were it not for a chance discovery many years later Dellschau's life + would have gone unnoticed. But one day in May 1969 a UFOlogist + named P. G. Navarro happened to stroll past an aviation exhibit at + the University of St. Thomas in Houston. Two large scrapbooks + (Dellschau's) caught his eye and he stopped to take a closer look. + + * [In telephone conversations and by correspondence, Navarro + himself has provided us with this information.] + + He found that the scrapbooks contained old news stories and articles + about attempts of various inventors to construct heavier-than-air + flying machines. But these were not nearly so interesting as + Dellschau's drawings of strange-looking, cumbersome vessels which he + claimed *actually had been flown at one time*. + + Navarro, his curiosity aroused, sought more of the scrapbooks and + + Page 4 + + over a period of time acquired 10 more -- from such places as a junk + shop in Houston and from a woman art collector who had been + interested in Dellschau's strange drawings. + + Navarro even talked with Dellschau's stepdaughter, then an old + woman. Finally he set out to makes sense of Dellschau's notes which + had been penned in English, German and code. When he had finished + he had reconstructed an incredible story. + + One thing was obvious: Dellschau was of two minds about what he was + doing. On one hand he wanted his "secrets" known; on the other he + seemed afraid to speak directly. So he compromised and wrote in a + fashion aimed to discourage all but the most determined investigator + -- and even so his writings in the main only add to the mystery. + + He was writing for an audience -- if not one in his own day, one in + some future period. He addressed potential readers thus: + + "You will... Wonder Weaver... you will unriddle these writings. + They are my stock of open knowledge. They... will end like + all the others... with good intentions but too weak-willed to + assign and put to work." + + From the notes Navarro learned that in the 1850's Dellschau and a + group of associates, about 60 in all, gathered in Sonora, Calif., + where they formed an "Aero Club" and constructed and flew heavier- + than-air vehicles. They worked in an open field near Columbia, a + small town near Sonora. (Today an airstrip covers the field, the + only area in the predominantly hilly region where planes can take + off and land safely.) + + The club worked in secrecy and its members were not permitted to + talk about their activities or to use the aircraft for their own + purposes. One member who threatened to take his machine to the + public in the hope of making a fortune died in an aerial explosion - + - the victim, Dellschau hints, of murder. + + Another, a "high educated mechanic" identified as Gustav Freyer, was + called to account by the club for withholding new information. + Apparently this was no ordinary social group. + + The "Aero Club" was a branch of a larger secret society whose + initials Dellschau gives as "NYMZA." He says little about this + society except to observe that in 1858 it was headed by a George + Newell in Sonora. + + Otherwise he alludes to orders from unnamed superiors who were + overseeing the club's activities. These were not governmental + authorities, for Dellschau writes that an official who somehow + learned of their work once approached club members and tried to + persuade them to sell their inventions for use as weapons of war. + The unnamed superiors instructed the club to refuse the offer. + + The club had a number of aircraft at its disposal, including among + others August Schoetler's Aero Dora, Robert Nixon's Aero Rondo and + George Newell's Aero Newell. However, from Dellschau's drawings it + is hard to believe that anything resembling these machines ever + could have flown. + + + Page 5 + + Navarro remarks, "The heavy body of the machines seems to be + radically out of proportion to the gasbag or balloon which is + supposed to lift the contraption. Considering the large amount of + gas (usually hydrogen or helium) that is required to lift one of + today's dirigibles or even a small blimp, it is inconceivable that + the small quantity of gas used in Dellschau's airship would be + sufficient to lift it." + + But this wasn't ordinary gas. According to Dellschau it was a + substance called "NB" which had the capacity to "negate weight." + Incredible as it may seem he is talking about antigravity. + + Dellschau's notes have a curiously pessimistic tone. One strange + paragraph reads, "We are all together in our graves. We get + together in my house. We eat and drink and are joyful. We do + mental work, but everybody is forlorn, as they feel they are + fighting a losing battle. But little likelihood is there that fate + shall bring forth the right man." + + Dellschau wrote of the human race -- and even the planet Earth -- as + if he stood apart from it. One peculiar paragraph of his oddly + archaic German reads: "Your Christian love reaches for the + Wanderplace, and wanders away from Earth. Planets there are enough + where Christian love shall be as we say so nicely in the Book + Selag." + + A drawing elsewhere shows the figure of a devil opening a crack in + the fabric of the sky above one of the "Aeros." The overall + impression conveyed by his writings is that Dellschau was a man who + knew secrets that would render him forever an outsider, isolated + from the community of mankind. + + Who was he? A spinner of tall tales? But to what end? If he is + only that why did he spend years compiling the scrapbooks - devoting + most of his waking hours to the task - on the slight chance that one + day far in the future, long after his death, someone might be taken + in? + + On November 1, 1896, the _Detroit Free Press_ reported that in the + near future a New York inventor would construct and fly an "aerial + torpedo boat." And on November 17 the _Sacramento Bee_ reprinted a + telegram the newspaper had received from a New York man who said he + and some friends would board an airship of his invention and fly it + to California. The trip, he said, would take no more than two days. + That very night all hell broke loose and the Great Airship Scare of + 1896-97 was off and running. + + The next day the _Bee_ led off a long article with this paragraph: + + "Last evening between the hours of six and seven o'clock, in + the year of our Lord eighteen hudred and ninety-six, a most + startling exhibition was seen in the sky in this city of + Sacramento. + + People standing on the sidewalks at certain points in the + city between the hours stated, saw coming through the sky + over the housetops, what appeared to them to be merely an + electric arc lamp propelled by some mysterious force. + + + Page 6 + + It came out of the east and sailed unevenly toward the + southwest, dropping now nearer to the earth, and now suddenly + rising into the air again as if the force that was whirling + it through space was sensible of the dangers of collision + with objects upon the earth..." + + Hundreds of persons saw it. Those who got the closest look said the + object was huge and cigar-shaped and had four large wings attached + to an aluminum body. Some insisted they heard voices and raucous + laughter emanating from the ship. A man identified as R. L. Lowry + and a companion allegedly saw four men pushing the craft along the + ground by its wheels. Lowry's friends asked them where they were + going. "To San Francisco," they replied. "We hope to be there by + midnight." + + One J. H. Vogel, who was in the vicinity, confirmed the story and + added that the vessel was "egg-shaped." The next afternoon an + airship passed over Oak Park, Calif., leaving a trail of smoke and + soon San Francisco, Oakland and other cities and town in the north- + cantral part of California had their own stories in all the + newspapers. + + Several persons now stepped forward to tell of earlier sightings. + One was a fruit rancher near Bowman, Placer County, who said he and + members of his family had watched an airship fly by at 100 miles an + hour in late October. + + Even more remarkable was the statement of a man who claimed that in + August he and fellow hunters had tracked a wounded deer across + Tamalpais Mountain until they came to a clearing where six men were + working on an airship. + + The most baffling part of the whole flap, which lasted well into + December 1896, was the role of "E. H. Benjamin," a dentist whose + name the newspapers always enclosed in quotation marks, as if they + had reason to doubt his identity. + + It was either Benjamin or his uncle who that November approached + George D. Collins, a San Francisco lawyer, and asked him to + represent his interests in the patenting of an airship. He told the + incredulous Collins that he had come from Maine to California seven + years before in order to conduct his experiments without danger of + interruption. + + Collins told reporters that his wealthy client (whom he never + identified) did his work near Oroville where Collins himself had + viewed the invention -- an enormous construction 150 feet long. "It + is built on the aeroplane system and has two canvas wings 18 feet + wide and rudder shaped like a bird's tail," the attorney said. "I + saw the thing ascend about 90 feet under perfect control." + + On November 17, Collins went on, the airship had flown the 60 miles + between Oroville and Sacramento in 45 minutes. This was not the + first flight the inventor had made. For two weeks he had been + flying in attempts to perfect the craft's navigational apparatus. + + This led to the story in the _Sacramento Bee_ for November 23, + datelined Oroville: "The rumor that the airship which is alleged to + have passed over Sacramento was constructed near this town seems to + + Page 7 + + have a grain of truth in it. The parties who could give information + if they would are extremely reticent. They give evasive answers or + assert they know absolutely nothing about it. + + "Not a single person that saw or knew of an airship being + constructed near here can be found and yet there is a rumor that + some man has been experimenting with different kinds of gas and + testing those which are lighter than air. The experiments were made + some miles east of the town and no one is able to give any names of + the parties, who are evidently strangers and seeking to avoid + publicity." + + The _San Francisco Call_ established that "Benjamin," a native of + Carmel, Me., had been seen in the Orville area visiting a wealthy + uncle and confiding to friends that he had invented something which + would "revolutionize the world." + + Several days into the controversy, the inventor dispensed with the + services of lawyer Collins because he was talking too much. W. H. + H. Hart, a former state attorney general and a highly respected man, + took over Collins' job. In subsequent newspaper interviews Hart + revealed that *two* airships existed, one in the east and the other + in California. "I have been concerned in the eastern invention for + some time personally," he said. "The idea is to consolidate both + interests." + + The western craft would be used as a weapon of war. "From what I + have seen of it," Hart said, "I have not the least doubt that it + will carry four men and 1,000 pounds of dynamite. I am quite + convinced that two or three men could destroy the city of Havana in + 48 hours." + + Hart thus represented both airship inventors, one in California and + one in New Jersey. The former had Hart say, "...if the Cubans would + give him $10 million he would wipe out the Spanish stronghold." This + was not the last time airships and Cuba* would be mentioned in the + same breath, as we shall see. + + * [In this period the then-new "yellow journalism" was keeping + American public opinion aroused over Cuba's desire for + independence. After the Cuban insurection of 1895, public + sentiment was running high against Spain and the mysterious + destruction of the U. S. S. Maine in Havana harbor on February + 15, 1898, triggered the Spanish-American war.] + + Early in December 1896 a stranger appeared at a business + establishment in Fresno, Calif., and inquired for a George Jennings. + Covered with dust, the man looked as if he had traveled a long + distance. When Jennings stepped out of a back room he greeted the + visitor like an old friend. The two men engaged in whispered + conversation and the persons standing nearby were nonplussed to + overhear the word "airship" spoken more than once. + + Later Jennings talked freely to a reporter for the _Fresno Semi- + Weekly Expositor_, balking only at giving his friends' name. + + "It is true the airship is in Fresno County," he said. "Just where + I do not know myself. It is also true that the man who was in here + a short time ago is one of the inventors. He told me the trip to + + Page 8 + + this country was involuntary upon the part of the men in the + airship. + + In other words the machine came itself and they couldn't stop it. + (I was told) that they were flying, as usual, around Contra Costa + County hills and rose to a height of about 1,000 feet. Suddenly the + airship struck a current of air and refused to answer to its + steering gear. It was borne rapidly southward against all efforts + to change its course until suddenly the current of air seemed to + lessen and the machine once more became manageable. The men aboard + at once descended and flew about looking for a hiding place, which + they at length found." + + Jennings said he was sure that individuals in nearby Watertown and + Selma must have observed the craft as it limped through the county + in search of a "hiding place." Sure enough, the day before his + encounter with the aeronaut, the _San Francisco Call_ had published + a letter from five Watertown men who said they had seen an enormous + airship nearly collide with a cornice on the city's post office + building the evening of November 20. The craft had an "intensely + brilliant" light and the witnesses could see human forms aboard. + + The evening of December 5 Selma citizens were treated to the + unnerving spectacle of a low-flying brilliantly-illuminated object + sailing rapidly toward the southeast. + + "The character of the witnesses is such as to leave no doubt that + they saw just what they described," the _Selma Irrigator_ + editorialized. + + After the first week of December the airships seemed to have + disappeared, the "inventors" were heard from no more and everything + returned to normal -- but not for long. The incredible part was yet + to come. + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Vangard note... + + We are looking into the Dellschau manuscripts and further + researches on this mysterious N.B. gas. + + From the work of Walter Russell and his development of the + Octave Periodic Progression of elements, there would appear to + be somewhere on the order of 26 elements BELOW HYDROGEN. This + is TOTALLY CONTRARY to any modern understanding of chemistry. + + As we understand it, the N.B. gas had incredible lifting power + (not anti-gravity per se.). An apt analogy would be that one + could fill a basketball with the N.B. gas, hold it in your arms + and be carried off into the upper stratosphere. + + When such an understanding is applied to the majority of cases + of the airships, it is seen how they are identical to ships on + water or submarines underwater. A simple change in ballast + would determine the height to which the airship would rise and + remain. Subject of course to wind. + + When perusing the many fascinating reports from this era, we + note several describing winged men flying through the air. + + + Page 9 + Some have the equivalent of a backpack for thrust, some simply + the wings. N.B. could very well stand for Neutral Buoyancy. + + SHADES OF THE ROCKETEER!!! + + Page 205 of Bullards book, + + On July 28th, around 6 to 7 AM?, Two Louisville, Kentucky men + saw an object in the distance which drew nearer and resolved + into the appearance of a man surrounded by machinery. (Note + no gasbag or canopy supported by one) + + If the man slacked his efforts (he was peddling) the machine + dropped, but if he once again worked the treadles (peddles) and + wings HE ROSE AGAIN; but the machine seemed under perfect + control and executed a turn over the city. + + (Remember when the comedian Gallagher built and flew a bicycle + type device suspended from a small dirigible.) + + Page 206 of Bullards book, + + In September an object like a black-clad man WITH BAT'S WINGS + AND FROGS LEGS FLAPPED over Coney Island. + + Can we not here clearly see that the use of N.B. gas could so + balance or completely cancel one's weight that flying in air + would be analogous to swimming in water? Is this not worth + pursuing? It would turn our concept of air travel completely + upside down. + + Ninety percent of the problem with air travel is the extra + power required to sustain lift. Propulsion is a piece of cake + in comparision. Imagine airships or flying suits literally + "floating" like boats on water.......... + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2869.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2869.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1b7525d0 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2869.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,429 @@ +SUBJECT: AERO CLUB IN THE MID 1850's FILE: UFO2869 + + + +PART 2 + + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + + There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS + on duplicating, publishing or distributing the + files on KeelyNet except where noted! + + November 8, 1991 + + AERO2.ASC + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + This EXCELLENT file shared with KeelyNet courtesy of + Jim Shaffer. + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Fate magazine has been in existence for many years and covers + a wide range of subjects, much like KeelyNet. + + If you might be interested in subscribing to this interesting + journal, their mailing address, etc..is: + + FATE + PO BOX 64383 + St. Paul, Minnesota 55164-0383 + + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + from Fate, June 1973 + + Mystery Airships of the 1800's (Part 2 of 3) + + By Jerome Clark and Loren Coleman + + The existence of the craft is beyond doubt, but what powered them? + Who were the members of the secret "Aero Club"? + + "The airship as a practical invention is believed to be so nearly + ripe that a story of its appearance in the sky is not necessarily to + be received with disrespect," _Harper's Weekly_ commented in its + April 24, 1897, issue...not unless you assumed that thousands of + Americans had lost their senses, a discomforting notion which some + scientists, editors and skeptics seemed to embrace. + + Prof. George Hough, a Northwestern University astronomer, assured + everyone that the "airship" was nothing but the star Alpha Orionis + as perceived by drunks, fools and hysterics. Most newspapers + ridiculed reports of the airship, finally desisting only for fear of + offending the growing numbers of readers who had seen the craft. + + California's airship, reported in November 1896, was the first to + receive widespread publicity but that same month an unidentified + flying object passed through central Nebraska and sightings in the + state continued until the following May. Delaware farmers saw + airships as early as January 1897. + + It took a sighting in Omaha involving hundreds of witnesses to put + the airships back in the headlines, however. The low-flying object, + + + Page 1 + + a large bright light, "too big for a balloon," appeared on the night + of March 29, 1897, and was visible for more than half an hour. + + From then on America's skies were filled with airships. The reports + came primarily from midwestern states and descriptions of the ships + varied -- as these random examples show: + + Everest, Kans., April 1 (_Kansas City Times_): "The basket or + car seemed to be 25 to 30 feet long, shaped like an Indian + canoe. Four light wings extended from the car; two wings were + triangular. A large dark hulk was discernible immediately above + the car and was generally supposed by the watchers to be an + inflated gasbag." + + Chicago, April 11 (_Chicago Times-Herald_): "The lower portions + of the airship were thin and made of some light white metal like + aluminum. The upper portion was dark and long like a big cigar, + pointed in front and with some kind of arrangement in the rear + to which cables are attached." + + Texas, April 16 (_New York Sun_): "...shaped like a Mexican + cigar, large in the middle and small at both ends, with great + wings resembling those of an enormous butterfly. It was + brilliantly illuminated by the rays of two great searchlights + and was sailing in a southeasterly direction with the velocity + of wind, presenting a magnificent appearance." + + Numerous persons reported seeing normal-looking men and women inside + the ships. One of the most interesting "occupant" reports came from + M. G. Sisson, postmaster at Greenfield, Ill. + + On the afternoon of April 19, 1897, while walking his dog through + the woods he spotted an airship 150 feet above him -- a phenomenon + he found less unsettling than the sight of a woman standing on a + deck on the bow of the craft netting pigeons. When she saw Sisson + she quickly stepped inside and the craft flew off. + + Later that day Thomas Bradburg of Hagaman, about nine miles east of + Greenfield, found part of a letter supposedly dropped from the + airship. On a printed letterhead of "Airship Co., Oakland Calif.," + it read: + + "We are having a delightful time and plenty to eat. Mollie's + scheme for running down birds and catching them with a net + works excellently; we feast daily upon pigeon pie. + + "Since starting out we have greatly increased the velocity of + the ship. The following figures will give some idea of the + speed which we are now able to make: St. Louis, April 15, 8:30 + P.M.; Chicago, same evening, 9:33; Kansas City, one hour and 40 + minutes later." + + Purportedly many such "messages" were released from airships and no + doubt the majority were hoaxes. We mention the letter found by + Bradburg because of its possible tie-in with Sisson's experience + (whether Bradburg had heard Sisson's story before he "found" the + letter is unanswerable) and because "Oakland, Calif." on the + letterhead takes us back to the controversies of November 1896 as to + the inventor's place of residence discussed in Part I of this + article. + Page 2 + + The events of 1896, incredible as they were, are relatively + uncomplicated compared to what happened in 1897. California's + controversy concerned only one alleged inventor, the mysterious "E. + H. Benjamin," but April 1897 produced an onslaught of conflicting + claims involving a host of people -- stories which made it obvious + that someone was lying. Sometimes it was the "witnesses," sometimes + the newspapers and sometimes it may have been the airship occupants + themselves. + + Let us examine several "contact" claims of this period: + + Springfield, Ill., April 15: Farmhands Adolph Winkle and John + Hulle allegedly saw an airship land two miles outside the city + and talked with its occupants, two men and a woman, who said + they would "make a report to the government when Cuba* is + declared free." + + * [As we pointed out last month this period (1895-1897) + spawned the Spanish-American War over the issue of Cuban + independence.] + + Harrisburg, Ark., April 21: At 1:00 A. M. a strange noise + awakened a man identified as ex-Senator Harris and through his + bedroom window he saw an airship descending to the ground. The + occupants, two young men, a woman and an elderly man with a dark + waist-length beard, got out and helped themselves to a supply of + fresh well water. + + Overcome by curiosity, Harris went outside and engaged the old + man in a long conversation, during which the latter claimed he + had inherited the secret of antigravity from his late uncle. + "Weight is no object to me," he said. "I suspend all gravity by + placing a small wire around an object. + + "I was making preparations to go over to Cuba and kill off the + Spanish army if hostilities had not ceased," he went on, "but + now my plans are changed and I may go to the aid of the + Armenians." He would accomplish all this with a gun which would + fire, he said "63,000 times per minute." + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Vangard notes... + + For those who have taken the time to study the work of John + Worrell Keely (Patron of KeelyNet), one can see a definite tie- + in with both of these amazing statements. We will not go into + detail beyond the reference, since the information is freely + available from the Keely section of this board. + + The true seeker will STUDY and find out for himself. Keely died + in 1898, a documented fact while the mention of this mysterious + late uncle was given in 1897, one year after Keely's death. + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + After offering Harris a ride, which the ex-senator refused, the + crew reentered their craft and disappeared into the night. + + Stephensville, Tex., late April: Alerted by "prominent farmer" + C. L. McIllhaney that an airship had alighted in a field on his + + Page 3 + + farm three miles from town, a large delegation of + Stephensville's leading citizens (our source lists all their + names) set out to see for themselves. + + They found a 60-foot cigar-shaped craft and its two occupants, + who gave their names as S. E. Tillman and A. E. Dolbear. The + pair explained that they were making an experimental trip to + test the ship for certain New York financiers. Turning down + requests from onlookers who wanted to examine the craft, the + aeronauts boarded the machine and sailed off. + + Conroe, Tex. April 22-23: Around midnight four men, one of them + hotel proprietor G. L. Witherspoon, were playing dominoes in the + hotel restaurant when three strangers entered. They said they + had landed their airship not far away and come into town for + supper "by way of a change," then went on to report they had + flown from San Francisco en route to Cuba. + + Witherspoon and his friends declined an offer to examine the + ship, suspecting they were the victims of a practical joke. But + about an hour later, after the visitors had left, a brilliantly + lighted airship passed over Conroe. + + Chattanooga, Tenn., late April: Several Chattanooga citizens + reportedly encountered a landed airship "in the exact shape of a + shad, (a type of fish) minus head and tail," resting on a + mountainside near the city. Its two occupants were at work + repairing it. One, who identified himself as Prof. Charles + Davidson, said they had left Sacramento a month before and had + spent the intervening time touring the country. + + Jenny Lind, Ark., May 4: At 7:30 P. M. an airship passed over + town. Three men leaped on their bicycles and pursued it until + it landed near a spring next to a mountain. Its pilots, who + introduced themselves as George Autzerlitz and Joseph Eddleman, + talked with the three for a while, saying they subsisted on + birds which they would overtake and capture in flight. Before + leaving the aeronauts offered any one of them a free ride and + ended up taking James Davis to Huntington, 15 miles away. + + This story appeared in the _St. Louis Post-Dispatch_ in the form + of a letter from two Jenny Lind residents, who urged the paper + to contact R. M. McDowell, general manager of the Western Coal + and Mining Company in St. Louis. McDowell told the _Post- + Dispatch_, "Yes, I know all those persons. I have extensive + works at Jenny Lind. I don't understand the letter, though. It + is very strange." + + Hot Springs, Ark., May 6: John L. Sumpter, Jr., and John + McLemore, police officers, testified in an affidavit that they + had seen a 60-foot airship land that dark, rainy night. There + were three occupants, a young man and woman and an older man + with a long dark beard. + + The latter approached the lawmen carrying a lantern while the + young man filled a large sack with water and the woman stayed in + the shadows, apparently hoping to remain unobserved. The old + man said they would stop off at Nashville after traveling the + country. The officers turned down an offer for a ride and then + + Page 4 + + left on other business. When they returned 40 minutes later the + ship was gone. + + The _Fort Smith Daily News Record_ noted that while Sumpter and + McLemore were subjected to a great deal of ridicule "they, + however, most seriously maintain that it is absolutely true, and + their earnestness is puzzling many, who, while unable to accept + the story as a fact, yet see that the men are not jesting." + + Are these stories to be taken seriously? If they are hoaxes, at + least they are not so obvious as many of the tales that + circulated during the three months of the 1897 airship scare. + And the incidents detailed above have a certain consistency. + Three of them note the presence of a lone young woman with one + or two young men; two of them describe one airship occupant as + an elderly man sporting a long dark beard. + + In two others the occupants give Sacramento and San Francisco as + the points of origin of their flights and another mentions New + York. These cities figure prominently in the November-December + 1896 controversies as locations either where the craft were seen + or where they were constructed. And the business of the birds + in the Jenny Lind report is reminiscent of M. G. Sisson's + Greenfield, Ill., sighting. + + Even if every one of the stories is no more than a figment of some + prankster's imagination, the fact remains that for the most part + (the lesser part we shall examine shortly) the craft were piloted + and PROBABLY BUILT BY HUMAN BEINGS -- as opposed to the hairy + humanoids and golden-maned Venusians of modern flying saucer + folklore. But who were the airship pilots and occupants? And what + happened to their marvelous inventions? + + While 1897 newspapers printed reams of speculation about the + mysterious inventor's identity, little of the material seems based + on anything more substantial than rumor and hearsay. Amid all the + nonsense, however, are several bits and pieces which ring true. One + of these is a statement by Max L. Hosmar, secretary of the Chicago + Aeronautical Association and presumably a reliable man. + + Speaking the day after a sighting on April 9, 1897, Hosmar told + reporters "It was an airship. I know one of the three men who are + in it. The ship is the customary inflated gas reservoir but the + inventors have discovered the secret of practical propulsion. They + can steer the vessel in any direction. + + Word reached me several weeks ago that the craft had started from + San Francisco and would stop here for the purpose of registration. + The object of all the mystery is to arouse great interest in aerial + navigation and demonstrate its practicability. The trip is to end + in Washington." + + Curiously enough, on the evening of April 15 an airship did + appear in Washington, D. C. It reportedly approached the Washington + Monument at an altitude of 600 feet, then sailed toward Georgetown + and disappeared. + + About 11:00 P. M. April 19 near Beaumont, Tex., a farmer and his son + came upon an airship in a pasture. They found four men moving + + Page 5 + + around the machine and one of them, who said his name was Wilson, + asked for and received a supply of water from the farmer's well. + + At Uvalde, Tex., 23 hours later Sheriff H. W. Baylor spoke briefly + with the three-man crew of an airship which had alighted outside the + town. One of them men gave his name as Wilson and said he was a + native of Goshen, N. Y. Then he asked about a Captain Akers, whom + he said he had known in Fort Worth in 1877 and understood he now + lived in southern Texas. After getting water from Baylor's pump the + aeronauts entered their craft and took off. + + A newspaper reporter located Captain Akers who said, "I can say that + while living in Fort Worth in '76 and '77 I was well acquainted with + a man by the name of Wilson from New York state and was on very + friendly terms with him. + + He was of a mechanical turn of mind and was then working on aerial + navigation and something that would astonish the world. He was a + finely educated man, then about 24 years of age, and seemed to have + money with which to prosecute his investigations, devoting his whole + time to them. + + From conversations we had while in Fort Worth, I think that Mr. + Wilson, having succeeded in constructing a practical airship, would + probably hunt me up to show me that he was not so wild in his claims + as I then supposed. + + "I will say further that I have known Sheriff Baylor many years and + know that any statement he may make can be relied on as exactly + correct." + + Another candidate for "airship inventor" is described in the _Omaha + Globe-Democrat_ for April 10: "The indications are that John O. + Preast of this county is the author of the mysterious machine. + + Preast is a unique character, spending his time at his country + residence near Omaha in experimenting with airships, constructing + models and studying all the subjects incidental to the theories of + applied mechanics along the line of providing a vessel that will + propel itself through the air. + + He has consumed the past 10 years in this way and the walls of his + home are covered with drawings of queer-shaped things, some + resembling gigantic birds, while others look like a big cigar, all + of which he says represent models of airships. He is a man of + superior education. He came to Omaha from Germany 20 years ago and + his lived the life of a recluse. + + Mr. Preast refuses to admit that the ship reported in different + sections of the state is his invention but... (it is known that) he + told several persons that he would surprise the world with a working + model in 1897... The two times in the past week that the light has + been seen in Omaha it disappeared near Preast's home, hovering over + the place and then appearing to go out." + + The most interesting thing about this Mr. Preast is how much he + reminds us of someone else -- the mysterious C. A. A. Dellschau. + Both men were recluses, German immigrants, compulsive students of + + + Page 6 + + aviation who spent untold hours making drawings of odd-looking + aircraft. + + And who is "Wilson"? Could he be the "Wilson" of "Tosh Wilson and + Co." to whom Dellschau refers in one of his scrapbooks? A wild + guess, perhaps. + + Germany is involved in the airship mystery because the objects first + manifested there in the 1850's. Unfortunately we do not have access + to the German reports -- but how odd it is that so many German names + crop up in Dellschau's list of men supposedly involved with the + "Aero Club" of Sonora, Calif., in the 1850's: August Schoetler, + Jacob Mischer, Ernest Krause, Julius Koch, A. B. Kahn and many + others. + + Whatever the truth or untruth of Dellschau's jottings it seems + likely that some kind of secret organization of aeronauts lived and + worked in the United States and possibly Germany as well during the + 19th Century. The mysterious "collector of curiosities" who showed + up in Galisteo Junction, N. Mex., in 1880 the day after an airship + had flown over, and stole away with the evidence it had left behind + may have been associated with the organization. + + It would have taken several dozen aeronauts to pilot the inestimable + number of airships reported in different parts of the country in the + 1896-97 flaps. + + All of them presumably would have been involved with the society and + sworn to secrecy, for no one ever stepped forward to answer the many + questions raised by the sudden appearances of these airships. When + aeronauts did speak up much of what they said was drivel, although + there may have been some strains of truth. + + Nevertheless, no one got a straight answer from an aeronaut about + the airship's source of power. The words "gas" and "electricity" + dot a number of accounts and once "antigravity" crops up. + + Most airships carried both large gasbags and powerful searchlights + but from eyewitness descriptions the craft seem to unwieldy that one + wonders how they flew. + + Maybe Dellschau's antigravity gas, "NB," is as good an explanation + of their propulsion as we're likely to find. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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H. Hopkins, a St. Louis resident + whose job as general traveling agent for the Hartford Steam Boiler + Inspection and Insurance Company had taken him to Missouri that + week. + + The incident he describes had occurred, he said, on April 16: + + "...I was wandering through hills east of Springfield, Mo., + and coming to the brow of a hill overlooking a small clearing + in the valley a short distance below me I saw a sight that + rooted me to the spot... I could not believe my eyes at + first... There in the clearing rested a vessel similar in + outline to the airship shown in the _Post-Dispatch_ a few + days ago and said to have been taken in Illinois... + + "Near the vessel was the most beautiful being I ever beheld. + She was under medium size but of the most exquisite form and + features such as would put to shame the forms as sculptured + by the ancient Greeks. She was dressed in nature's garb + (both were naked) and her golden hair, wavy and glossy, hung + to her waist, unconfined except by a band of glistening + + Page 1 + + jewels that bound it back from her forehead... She was + plucking the little flowers that were just blossoming... + with exclamations of delight in a language I could not + understand. + + Her voice was like low, silvery bells and her laughter rang + out like their chimes. In one hand she carried a fan of + curious design that she fanned herself vigorously with, + though to me the air was not warm and I wore an overcoat. + + "In the shade of the vessel lay a man of noble proportions and + majestic countenance. His hair of dark auburn fell to his + shoulders in wavy masses and his full beard... reached to + his breast. He also was fanning himself... as if the heat + oppressed him. + + "After gazing for a while I moved forward and the woman, + hearing the rustle of the leaves, looked around. A moment + she stood looking at me with wonder and astonishment in her + beautiful blue eyes, then with a shriek of fear she rushed to + the man who sprang to his feet, threw his arm around her and + glared at me in a threatening manner. + + "I stopped and taking my handkerchief from my pocket waved it + in the air. A few minutes we stood. I then spoke some words + of apology for intruding but he seemed not to understand and + replied in a threatening tone and words which I could not + make out. I tried by signs to make him understand and + finally he left her... and came toward me. I extended my + hand. He looked at it a moment, astonishment in his dark- + brown eyes, and finally he extended his own and touched mine. + + I took his and carried it to my lips. I tried by signs to + make them understand I meant no harm. Finally his face + lighted up with pleasure and he turned and spoke to the + woman. She came hesitatingly forward, her form undulating + with exquisite grace. I took her hand and kissed it + fervently. The color rose to her cheeks and she drew it + hastily away. + + "I asked them by signs where they came from but it was + difficult to make them understand. Finally they seemed to do + so and smiling, they gazed upwards for a moment, as if + looking for some particular point, and then pointed upwards, + pronouncing a word which to my imagination sounded like Mars. + + "I pointed to the ship and expressed my wonder in my + countenance. He took me by the hand and led me toward it. + In the side was a small door. I looked in. There was a + luxurious couch covered with robes of the most beautiful + stuff and texture such as I had never seen before. + + From the ceiling was suspended a curious ball from which + extended a strip of metal which he struck to make it vibrate. + Instantly the ball was illuminated with a soft white light + which lit up the whole interior... most beautifully + decorated... + + "At the stern was another large ball of metal, supported in a + + Page 2 + + strong framework, and connected to the shaft of the propeller + at the stern was a similar mechanism attached to each + propeller and smaller balls attached to a point of metal that + extended from each side of the vessel and from the prow. + + And connected to each ball was a thin strip of metal similar + to the one attached to the lamp. He struck each one and when + they vibrated the balls commenced to revolve with intense + rapidity and did not cease till he stopped them with a kind + of brake. + + As they revolved intense lights, stronger than any arc light + I ever saw, shone out from the points at the sides and at the + prow, but they were different colors. The one at the prow + was an intense white light. On one side was green and on the + other red. + + "The two had been examining me with the greatest curiosity in + the meantime. They felt of my clothing, looked at my gray + hair with surprise and examined my watch with the greatest + wonder. Signs are poor medium to exchange ideas and + therefore we could express but little. + + "I pointed to the balls attached to the propellers. He gave + each of the strips of metal a rap, those attached to the + propellers under the vessel first. The balls began to + revolve rapidly and I felt the vessel begin to rise... I + sprang out and none too soon, for the vessel rose as lightly + as a bird and shot away like an arrow... + + The two stood laughing and waving their hands to me, she a + vision of loveliness and he of manly vigor." + + Incredible? Certainly. A skeptical _Post-Dispatch_ reporter took + the letter to Hopkins' employer, C. C. Gardner. After reading it + carefully Gardner said, "That is Mr. Hopkins' handwriting and he is + now in that territory. He was also at Springfield on the day + named..." Asked if he believed Hopkins' story Gardner nodded + vigorously. + + "Indeed I do," he said. "Strange as it may seem I am compelled to + believe it. Mr. Hopkins is not a romancer. He never courts + notoriety. + + What he writes he has seen and he believes it is his duty to make + the facts public. He does not drink a drop. He has been connected + with this company for a long time and is most reliable. What he + writes you can publish as being absolutely true." + + Other employees in the firm spoke just as highly of Hopkins. The + reporter also searched out Hopkins' wife and two daughters. "It's + the truth if he wrote it," Mrs. Hopkins affirmed, "and I believe + every word. Mr. Hopkins is a member of the Maple Avenue M. E. + Church and has many friends... He undoubtedly wishes to acquaint his + friends with the marvel he has seen and so uses the _Post-Dispatch_ + as the medium of communication. + + "Mr. Hopkins left home a week ago," she continued. "Before he left + he ridiculed the idea of an airship having been seen. But now I + + Page 3 + + suppose he is convinced it is not a myth." The other-worldly + overtones of this incident hardly can be denied and it was not the + only bizarre occurrence of the period. + + On the morning of April 15 a large airship moved northward slowly + over Linn Grove, Iowa, and five men followed it about four miles + into the country where it landed. But when the pursuers got within + 700 yards of the vessel it spread out four monstrous wings and flew + away. As it rose its occupants tossed out two boulders "of unknown + composition." + + The witnesses said the entities within the craft had the longest + beards they had ever seen and a news account of the incident + mentions "two queer-looking persons... who made desperate efforts to + conceal themselves." + + The next day at Mount Vernon, Ill., the city's mayor focused his + telescope on an "airship." What he saw was something that + resembled, according to the _Saginaw Courier-Herald_, + + "the body of a huge man swimming through the air with an + electric light at his back." + + It goes without saying that no theory which assumed terrestrial + inventors were completely responsible for airship manifestations is + going to account for a sighting like this one. + + From the _Houston Daily Post_ for April 28, 1897, comes the weirdest + case of all: "Merkel, Tex., April 26 -- Some parties returning from + church last night noticed a heavy object dragging along with a rope + attached. They followed it until in crossing the railroad, it + caught on a rail. + + Looking up they saw what they supposed was the airship. It was not + near enough to get an idea of the dimensions. A light could be seen + protruding from several windows; one bright light in front like the + headlight of a locomotive. After some 10 minutes a man was seen + descending the rope; he came near enough to be plainly seen. + + He wore a light-blue sailor suit, was small in size. He stopped + when he discovered parties at the anchor and cut the ropes below him + and sailed off in a northeast direction. The anchor is now on + exhibition at the blacksmith shop of Elliott and Miller and is + attracting the attention of hundreds of people." + + An ancient obscure Irish manuscript, _Speculum Regali_, records + an incident that supposedly occurred in the year 956 A. D.: "There + happened in the borough of Cloera, one Sunday while people were at + mass, a marvel. In this town there is a church to the memory of + St. Kinarus. It befell that a metal anchor was dropped from the + sky, with a rope attached to it, and one of the sharp flukes caught + in the wooden arch above the church door. + + The people rushed out of the church and saw in the sky a ship with + men on board, floating at the end of the anchor cable, and they saw + a man leap overboard and pull himself down the cable to the anchor + as if to unhook it. + + "He appeared as if he were swimming in water." + + Page 4 + + The folk rushed up and tried to seize him; but the bishop forbade + the people to hold the man for fear it might kill him. The man was + freed and hurried up the cable to the ship, where the crew cut the + rope and the ship rose and sailed away out of sight. But the anchor + is in the church as a testimony to this singular occurrence." + + And about 1200 A. D. an anchor plummeted out of the sky trailing a + rope and got caught in a mound of stones near a church in Bristol, + England. As a mob of churchgoers congregated at the scene, a + "sailor" came skittering down the rope to free it. + + According to Gervase of Tilbury's _Otia Imperialia_ the crowd seized + the intruder and "he suffocated by the mist of our moist atmosphere + and expired." His unseen comrades cut the rope and left. + + We do not pretend to understand why an incident of this nature + should continually recur but its occurrence in the midst of the 1897 + airship flap should prove conclusively that we are dealing with + phenomena whose implications boggle the mind. + + Something astonishing, even incomprehensible, was taking place in + 19th-Century America. Whatever conclusions we draw from it are + bound to be unbelievable and little more than informed guesses, for + the gaps in the story are often greater than the substance. + + Throughout history innumerable groups, societies and cults have + organized -- sometimes secretly, sometimes not -- around an idea + that in one way or another they were in contact with "higher beings" + who taught them and oversaw their lives. Almost every religion + assumes its adherents were and are guided in this manner -- so do + cults of magicians, spiritualists, flying saucer contactees and many + others. + + Some gifted scientists and inventors have believed privately that + non-human entities helped them in their work. In the 19th Century + we believe man had neither the knowledge nor the means to build and + fly heavier-than-air machines. We are equally sure that somebody + was doing just that and according to most eyewitness reports, the + pilots of the ships appeared to be ordinary mortals. + + Even if we reject Dellschau's accounts as senile raving we still + must confront the "impossible" fact of the existence of airships and + human occupants. + + Taking Dellschau seriously for the moment we might postulate that in + both Germany and the United States, specifically in California and + New York, a secret cult of brilliant scientists, technicians and + inventors established contact with nonhuman agencies which told them + how to construct aerial vessels but ordered them to keep the work + under wraps. It is safe to assume the German and American branches + were in communication and about 1848 some of the Germans immigrated + to pool their efforts with those of the Americans. + + Perhaps 1848 was the crucial year. Perhaps the eastern branch of + the society had decided to market the airship -- with or without the + approval of their "superiors." An advertisement appeared on the + east coast proclaiming that "R. Porter & Company" soon would have + ships for air travel. + + + Page 5 + + For some unknown reason nothing came of the plan but by the 1850's + many of the Germans had set up shop near Sonora, Calif., with the + Americans and they were to spend the next several years conducting + some incredible experiments. + + Dissension and dissatisfaction no doubt developed as the group came + to realize they might never be allowed to give their "aeros" to the + world. They may have hoped that someone -- Dellschau calls him "the + right man" -- would arrive to defy the "superiors" and make the + airship public property. (Not all that public, of course. The + group stood to collect a fortune for their enterprise.) + + While airships were seen over America from time to time in the years + before 1896, widespread sustained flights seem to have become + necessary in that year, for whatever reason. To maintain secrecy in + a period when airships for the first time would be observed widely + the society agreed to plant a series of conflicting and therefore + misleading claims. The ploy worked, of course. + + The "superiors," the nonhuman entities, had their own ships but they + took care not to be seen while their human agents captured the + headlines. Conceivably the human beings were little more than pawns + in some cosmic game. + + The weirdest incidents -- those putting airships in a paranormal + framework -- well may have been the important ones, while the more + mundane sightings were designed only to distract attention while the + nonhumans set about doing whatever they intended to accomplish. + + If Dellschau was lying, then we must revise our theory only to + exclude the German and Sonora, Calif., headquarters. The existence + of a secret society in contact with nonhumans still can be inferred + from other evidence. + + To pursue our initial hypothesis to its conclusion, let us suppose + that Dellschau retired to Houston late in the 19th Century, as in + fact he did, depressed and discouraged because it looked as if the + whole amazing business would remain a secret forever. + + Still intimidated by the "superiors" and afraid to speak directly, + nonetheless he determined to leave the world a series of clues in + the hope that someday a "Wonder Weaver" would find them and sew the + entire dazzling fabric together. + + Too much to swallow, you say? But can you think of a better + explanation? + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Vangard note... + + Let us suppose that early chemical researchers did not IN FACT + find the lowest element in the Periodic Table, i.e. Hydrogen + with an atomic number of 1 and a mass number of 1.008. + + According to Walter Russell, the elements follow a harmonic + Octave Progression. The chart he developed to illustrate this + progression shows 26 elements with a mass LESS than Hydrogen. + + We have made contact with both Pete Navarro and Jimmy Ward, the + primary researchers into the Dellschau notebooks. Jimmy has + + Page 6 + + confirmed that the mysterious N.B. gas was highly inflammable. + + Airships using this substance to provide primary lift, posted + signs within the ship warning occupants of the explosive nature + of the N.B. gas. Smoking and any open flame could cause the + craft to be blown out of the air. + + If there are as many as 26 different gases with LESS MASS than + Hydrogen, then these gases must necessarily be FAR LIGHTER THAN + HYDROGEN, thus providing more lift per volume. + + Again, following this train of thought, it can easily be seen + how this gas could lift much heavier payloads with less gas. + An analogy : If a basketball were filled with N.B. gas, one + could grab the ball and be lifted into space. + + Now, what if you took a pair of coveralls, sewed tubing into + the material and filled it with this gas. You could so balance + it against your natural weight that you could float like a + balloon. Add wings or some form of thrust and you could fly + quite freely in the open air. + + Of course, a backpack, scooter or light airship could also be + built using the gas for lift. Propulsion is easy to achieve + while lift is more difficult. If wings or ailerons were used, + then a forward thrust would cause the ship to lift proportional + to velocity than the natural buoyancy of the N.B. gas. + + The winged flying men as mentioned in the above article could + thus be accounted for without the need for paranormal or extra- + terrestrial speculations. + + Jimmy Ward has courteously sent us several articles written by + Pete Navarro and himself. These will be placed on KeelyNet in + the AERO series, so pay attention class, they are most + interesting and could lead to some really wild PRACTICAL + APPLICATIONS. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2871.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2871.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8962d1d9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2871.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,361 @@ + +SUBJECT: AERO CLUB IN THE MID 1850's FILE: UFO2871 + + + +PART 4 + + + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + + There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS + on duplicating, publishing or distributing the + files on KeelyNet except where noted! + + November 26, 1991 + + AERO4.ASC + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + This file shared with KeelyNet courtesy of Chuck Henderson. + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + The source for this file is the February 1965 issue of + Flying Saucers magazine, published and edited by + Ray Palmer. Flying Saucers magazine is now + out-of-print. + ------------------------------------------------------------------- + Flying Saucers magazine was, towards the end of the '70s, + incorporated into Palmer Publication's SEARCH magazine. + Then SEARCH magazine was sold to Owl Press. + If you might be interested in subscribing to this interesting + journal, their mailing address, etc...is: + + Owl Press + PO Box 81 + Rosholt, WI 54473 + + + Please mention that you found this on KeelyNet, thanks. + ------------------------------------------------------------------- + from Flying Saucers, February 1965 + + 1896 SKY SHOW + + By Ted Rathbone + + In November of 1896, the astonished citizenry up and down the + Sacramento Valley of California were favored with a manifestation + of scientific achievement the like of which was not to gain public + notice again for three quarters of a century. + + A "flying machine"' whose origin is still in dispute, maneuvered + purposefully and mysteriously from Oroville to San Francisco, + and from Oakland to Sacramento, unrestrained by darkness, rain, + wind, or the hue and cry of aroused observers. + + The astute San Francisco Call ran a full front page on the 19th + of November on the sightings. A couple of scooped rival newspapers + questioned the veracity of the many reports, but only for a day. + + As their offices became overrun with subscribers and others who + "saw it with (their) own eyes," the two papers changed their minds, + investigated, and were forced to take the story seriously. But + none of the papers discovered anything at all about the history, + + Page 1 + + workings, or the purpose of the strange craft. 1896 was no different + from any other year in history in that unknown objects explored the + skies of earth and been observed, wondered at, and reported; and in + the thrust and squeeze of mortal progress, generally forgotten. + + There was great talk at the time of the strange machine being of + local invention, originating in the Table Mountain area above + Oroville. This is so highly a proposition as to be called + impossible, although the top of Table Mountain would certainly have + provided a secluded and safe temporary landing site for an alien + visitor from the sky. + + Names were inevitably associated with the advent of the strange + craft. There was a Dr. Benjamin who allegedly did the inventing. + Then there was one George Collins, his attorney, who offered to + the press a description of the sky machine although he obviously + had not as yet seen the actual vehicle. But one is forced to + question which came first, the advent or the association. + + The sky vehicle which visited Northern California in 1896 employed + the vertical maneuverability and hover ability of a present day + helicopter, but without a sign of the ungainly and hungry rotor. It + swooped and soared over the roof tops of San Francisco and glided + neatly and precisely over the mining shacks of Cherokee in Butte + County, without benefit of wings. + + The Collins story has the airship with crude, inept flappers. In all + pictures, however, the background is rain swept and cloud torn, and + although the craft was undoubtedly wingless, the 1896 outlook would + most certainly have added wings in the recounting. To be sure, there + were lighter-than-air craft in operation at the time on an + experimental basis, but the movements of these were about as + decisive and determined as the wanderings of the spider watching the + treetops slip by below her as she clings to her strands of silken + web. + + Some of these pictures in which wings are shown not only have a + stormy backdrop, but all pictures clearly delineate powerful + searchlights. On this all witnesses agree, even to the extent that + with the Sacramento (1896) observations some hundreds of citizens + who gaped, open mouthed and startled, were partially and temporarily + blinded by the brilliance of the "great lights" emanating from the + sky object. + + The ship obviously had access to a source of power incompatible with + the heavy glass jar batteries and even heavier dynamos with which + the world prided itself in that day. + + It seems that November of 1896 in Northern California, there was + manifestation of the same type of phenomena which startled Kenneth + Arnold near Mt. Ranier in 1947. Call it or them what you will, but + their existence cannot be denied. + + The strange sky craft visited Oakland. On Monday the 23rd of + November of that year when the bare electric bulb in the kitchen was + still a novelty and a marvel, horses, buggies and spellbound people + mingled in the confusion and wonderment on dark streets as the + "monster of the air" swung low over the housetops. + + + Page 2 + + It inspected building, street, and the startled life of the + metropolis in the glare of its blinding light beams. And of course, + the revealing lights were made still more dramatic as the unknown + vehicle came down through the clouds of a rainy, stormy night to + view the city. + + Among the many reputable observers of the unknown machine were + Oakland's Mayor Davies, and Mayor Sutro of San Francisco. Mayor + Sutro witnessed the slow approach of the sky vehicle as it sailed + toward the Golden Gate from somewhere above the Pacific Ocean. + + He and his family and all the servants made their way hastily out + onto the lawn at Sutro Heights Manor to watch the progress of the + object coming in from the direction of the sea. This, too, was an + evening visit, and San Franciscans hurriedly climbed ladders and + stairs to get a roof top view as the light beams from the sky played + about over their city. + + The seals on Seal Rocks found themselves illuminated, causing them + to protest with grunts and squeals and retreat into the water. The + sky car cruised leisurely past the eminences of Twin Peaks, its + bright rays passing lightly over the pines and rhododendron, and the + formal gardens of the area. + + Brakes on the cable cars were locked and destinations forgotten as + passengers and crew piled off to wonder at this dark sky chariot + with the bright lights which was passing through the sky above them. + + One newspaper account said its "frame" was like "the body of a + bird," yet still no mention of anything even resembling wings as we + know them. Undoubtedly because the ship had no wings, nor had any + need of them. + + At about 9:15 of that same evening, Van Ness Avenue was treated to a + little longer display as the "glowing giant" hovered at about 400 + feet above the thoroughfare while the people on the street looked. A + few no doubt gazed in fear, others in boiling curiosity. + + The next morning the city hall and all municipal offices were + besieged by excited men and women, all demanding an explanation of + just what it was they had seen the night before flying around over + the city, shining its lights everywhere and scaring horses and + people half out of their wits. + + A special meeting of The Board of Supervisors was called to cope + with the questions of the populace. In the matter of an unknown sky + vehicle however, it is not known just what The Board's answers were, + but we can be sure that in this instance they saw the limits of + their supervision. + + One 1896 newspaper cut shows the strangely familiar rounded outline + of the ship inspecting St. Mary's College, Oakland. The shape of the + object in the air is remindful of other, more recent phenomena which + a government department have found highly unpalatable, and to whom + the UFO and its viewing has become anathema and grounds for + excommunication. + + The illustration shows four air screws arranged around the lower rim + of the oval, hanging from the underside, which would certainly be an + + Page 3 + + unhandy place for them. The propellers can be nothing but the + viewer's assumption that such were necessary for propulsion because + the ship was flying and something had to make it fly. + + But if whirling propellers were the motivation it would have + required an eye faster than human to identify them and determine + they had four blades. Notable in the description is the absence of + any reference to a roar, whir, or sound of any sort coming from the + strange machine, whereas in any propeller driven aircraft most of + the noise heard on the ground comes from the blades churning the + air. + + The propellers go with the wings: ready answers for the unknown. + + During this same time, over in Camptonville which lies a couple of + ridges and a river to the west of Oroville, one of Camptonville's + leading citizens, a Mr. Meek, reported on a landing made by, it is + presumed, this same ship. The unknown craft settled to the earth on + a level spot just out of town, whereupon five of the strongest and + bravest of the town's young men ventured out to investigate. + + There was no hostility from the only crew member they saw, but + unfortunately conversation lagged because neither party understood + the other. + + No doubt there were many on those wet windy November evenings in + Oakland and San Francisco who knew an unvoiced longing as they + watched the departure of the strange craft heading out. Then as now, + the new and wonderful possibilities of which they had been given a + glimpse must have sent a surge to the hearts and inflamed the + imaginations of many of those observers. + + But the Spanish-American War was even then a-brewing, and the never + neglected direction of public sentiment was under way. The + excitement caused by the unknown visitor from the sky was crowded + out by the induced fever of mundane strife and politics, and the + story then, as similar stories now, became officially forgotten. + + If such effortless and manageable power were available as that + demonstrated by the unknown vehicle, it is difficult to conceive of + it being immune to exploitation. In fact, a powerful California + Railroad Entity threw money and manpower into an effort to discover + the origin and workings of the sky vehicle, but in vain. + + The "in vain" is as conclusive proof as any of the unassailability + of the secret of this ungravitating visitor from the sky. Or of it + not being "local invention." + + Besides the railroad, the government investigated also, thinking + perhaps it was An Implement of Spanish Aggression. Here too, as with + so many other authenticated UFO sightings, all they found was + mystery, and no answers, but a lot of eyewitnesses. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + + + + Page 4 + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Vangard note... + + The AERO series on KeelyNet has some people asking why we would + "waste" our time on such old and "unproveable" information. + + For those who choose to look beyond the blinders and with an + "integrating" eye, there are many interesting leads and tie-ins + with Keely (most publicly available on KeelyNet, others as we + find time to place them on the system). + + For starters, we are finding that there were apparently two main + (possibly three) groups working on aerial devices in the 1800's. + + The Western group was based on the work of the German immigrants + who founded the Aero Club (controlled or influenced by the + mysterious NYMZA group from the East). + + Someone in that group had discovered a (currently unknown) gas + with incredible lifting power. We at Vangard Sciences believe + this gas to be a COMPONENT of hydrogen or more precisely a + direct indication of elements with LESS MASS than hydrogen. + + The Eastern group (Keely Country) had aerial devices and + technologies using magnetic or neutral center principles as + discovered by Keely and possibly others who might have been + either in association with him or working independent of Keely. + + Comments from the Western group indicate that attempts were made + to join forces with the Eastern group since the Eastern group + had the greatest potential for military uses. + + The Western group was Pacificist to the extreme which forced + secrecy and even death to members who even hinted of any desires + to capitalize, release or otherwise promote their discoveries as + a group. + + Both the Eastern and Western groups DID NOT confine their + researches to aerial technologies alone. + + Unfortunately, because of the secrecy involved, much of the + information is lost or intentionally destroyed to prevent its + use for "negative" purposes. + + There is a great possibility that the groups survived into + modern times and might still be playing a part in many of the + UFO-type phenomena that continues today. + + If such is the case, that the groups did not die out but in fact + continued to advance their researches, they could by this time + be at a point in their developments which would make them appear + to us as advanced beings. + + Would it not be to this mysterious group or groups advantage to + intentionally influence those working in such areas to create + outlandish stories in order to help discredit the real + researchers? And would you not also take the necessary steps to + silence those coming too close to the truth? + + + Page 5 + + The Airships of 1897 have long been of interest to us here at + Vangard Sciences and was further accelerated by Wally Chariton's + book "The Great Texas Airship Mystery." We had the privilege of + meeting with Wally and discussing the subject. + + Wally had never heard of Keely or his airship or aerial + navigation experiments at that time. A recent call to Wally + about the Dellschau notebooks was received excitedly and he + wants to be kept abreast of what turns up. + + At this point, we are looking into gas properties, Russell's + Octave Periodic Table of the Elements and such diverse areas + as diffusion, osmosis and catalysts. + + Thanks to the sharing of information from people like Jim + Shaffer, Jimmy Ward and Pete Navarro, this information will not + be relegated to the wastebasket and might indeed lead to new + discoveries. + + We at Vangard Sciences will continue to integrate and distribute + what we find on the AEROS and other related subjects through + KeelyNet. + + Thanks for your support! + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** + + + + + + + + + + + Page 6 diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2872.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2872.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6c425484 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2872.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,420 @@ + +SUBJECT: AERO CLUB IN THE MID 1850's FILE: UFO2872 + + + + +PART 5 + + + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + + There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS + on duplicating, publishing or distributing the + files on KeelyNet except where noted! + + December 3, 1991 + + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + This file typed in and shared with KeelyNet courtesy of + Chuck Henderson - KeelyNet Co/Sysop + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + The source for this file is the June 1970 issue of Flying + Saucers magazine, published and edited by Ray Palmer. + Flying Saucers magazine is now out-of-print. + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Flying Saucers magazine was, towards the end of the '70s, + incorporated into Palmer Publication's SEARCH magazine. + Then SEARCH magazine was sold to OWL Press. + + If you might be interested in subscribing to this interesting + journal, their mailing address, etc....is: + + OWL Press + PO Box 81 + Rosholt, WI 54473 + + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + from Flying Saucers, June 1970 + + Did Pennington Build the 1897 U.S.A. Airship? + + Reprinted from BUFORA Journal, British U.F.O. Resaerch Association + 170 Faversham Road, Kennington, Ashford, Kent + + Speculation as to the origin of the 'Airship' reported over the + central States of the U.S.A. in 1897 has resulted in many theories + and at least one of these attributes the sightings to the activities + of a peculiar antique U.F.O. I understand that the reason that the + craft looked very much like the current airship design already + flying in Europe is that the U.F.O. denizens wished to present their + ship to the natives in a manner that would be acceptable and + understandable. However the airship in question did not seem to be + at all anxious to present itself, operating as it did almost + exclusivly by night and skulking during daylight hours in out of the + way places. + + Before accepting such 'way out' theories it would seem necessary to + exclude any possibility of the machine being the production of some + far-sighted inventor with the ability, wealth and resources to build + and fly such a machine and also keep the whole project secret. + + Page 1 + + Witnesses of the airship were often men of excellent reputation for + veracity and often crowds of onlookers werte able to compare + experiences. + + The descriptions tallied to a remarkable degree. It seems clear also + that some of the sightings of night flying objects were of quite a + different catagory and to present day ufologists may be recognized + as being the result of 'normal' U.F.O. activity. + + From the reports still in existence it is possible to build up a + very good idea of the type of dirigible involved and there is no + doubt that in many respects it is similar to airships already built + and flying in Europe particularly in France. In 1884 Renard and + Krebs devised and built an electrically propelled airship called 'La + France' which made a circular flight of five miles at its first + appearance. + + It would indeed have been strange if there had been no parallel + activities in the U.S.A. at that time. Resources of material and + money were there in abundance and amoung the fertile brains of a + rapidly growing scientifically orientated community was there no + person of sufficient genius engineering ability and wealth to take + up the aerial challenge? + + I believe there was and I believe that his name was Edward J. + Pennington. + + Pennington was born in Franklin, Indiana in 1858 and as a boy showed + remarkable engineering aptitude and as he developed into manhood he + displayed remarkable initiative, charm and persuasiveness. With + these attributes it was not long before he was running his own + factory and at the age of twenty-three had patented a reciprocating + head for planing machines, the first of a continuous stream of + patents which flowed from his active brain until his death in 1911. + + He was ruthless too and could exhibit considerable showmanship in + order to further his own ideas. A characteristic of Pennington which + in this context is significant was the secrecy he achieved to + protect his projects and his habit of quietly dropping one idea in + favor of another with little regard to the financial outcome. + + By 1885 Pennington had acquired sufficient capital to set up the + Standard Machine Works in Defiance, Ohio and two years later he + created two further firms to make pulleys and wood-working + machinery. A flood of Pennington patents were registered at this + time at Fort Wayne. + + There are rumors of a company capitalized at one million dollars in + Oswego, Kansas and another at Cincinnati with factories to produce + 'Freight Elevators'. (Could this phrase possibly have been a + euphemism fo load-carrying Airships?) + + After a brief appearance at Edinburg, Illinois, where he collected + some 50,000 dollars from the inhabitants for yet another 'pulley + works' he came to rest at Mount Carmel, Illinois, in 1890. + + Now things begin to develop...this new Company was actually a four + cylinder radial engine..."for the propulsion of an aerial vessel". + + Page 2 + + He also let it be known, that he was "readying a vessel to fly from + Mount Carmel to New York". + + In 1891 he exhibited a captive airship some thirty feet long and six + feet in diameter. It flew in a circle propelled by an airscrew + turned electrically. The current was conveyed by wires in the + tethering cable. + + In 1893 he turned his attention to motor driven vehicles and again a + spate of patents flooded from the Pennington brain. Soon he was + making motor-cycles in Cleveland, Ohio and here he invented the + first balloon tyre. + + Such giddy progress was bound to meet with reverses and due to his + dogmatic attitude and ruthless decisions he began to make enemies: + yet his uncanny instinct for avoiding trouble kept him from falling + foul of the law. + + During 1894 he joined Thomas Kane who made kerosene engines widely + used in dairies for milk seperation. This event is most important in + this thesis which will be evident later. Here, in Racine on the + shores of lake Michigan they financed a really large concern for the + development of petrol engines. + + They patented among other things an 'electric igniter' for petrol + driven engines which was really the first sparking plug, in 1895. + In this year Pennington visited England and took some of his + vehicles with him. + + Exercising his well-known assurance and charm he persuaded Henry J. + Lawson, a successful manufacturer of bicycles to purchase patents to + the tune of a half a million dollars. He was still here in 1896 and + entered the Brighton Run. After an altercation with Mons. Leon + Bollee his claim to have won the event was not disputed. After this + he participated in the aerial demonstrations in the U.S.A. late in + 1896 and during 1897. + + In December 1895 he had deposed with the American Patents Office the + design for a full sized Airship. Many of the features of this design + are so close to those described by witnesses of the aerial ship seen + in 1896 and 1897 that on this evidence alone one would suspect that + Pennington could have been responsible. + + Basing the scale of the design on the size of the passenger seats + the overall length of the ship would be about 140 ft. The keel + beneath which provided accommodation for the crew and passengers, + also housed large batteries and extended for 70 ft. with an equal + amount of overhang of the envelope at each end. At the front end of + the envelope a large airscrew about 50 ft. from tip to tip provided + traction. At the rear an ample rudder and a horizontal fin allowed + control of direction. + + At the sides two horizontally disposed propellers furnished lateral + 'trimming'. Along the top of the ship a high dorsal fin would help + to prevent sideways drift and yawing at slow speeds. Altogether a + very impressive aeronautical design for that period of time. + + It is probable that the finished airship based on this plan would + + Page 3 + + deviate in minor details. Perhaps laterally placed airscrews were + found to give a better lift and control if suitably shaped. + + Wings or large ailerons above the envelope would also help to + provide lift if suitably angled. In 1895 during his motorcycle phase + Pennington was heard to remark: "Suppose I have a cycle, screw + driven, making a mile a minute...just suppose that...then suppose + that I put aeroplanes on that machine...and they are under good + control, what then?" + + What then indeed, the Wright Brothers would have been forstalled by + several years. + + The sighting of the Airship on the ground in 1897 by Captain Hooten + at 6:00 p.m. on about 20th April is usually regarded as a true + account of his experience which he recounted in the Little Rock, + Arkansas, Gazette. He was, he said, out hunting near Homan when he + heard the sound of 'pumping' like the noise of a Westinghouse + locomotive brake. + + Going in the direction of the sound he was amazed to behold "the + famous airship" in an open space. A man wearing dark glasses was + doing something at the rear of the ship. As he approached four other + men appeared. + + During the ensuing conversation there was no doubt in his mind that + the crew were American. When the ship was ready, three large + 'wheels' started to rotate on either side of the airship and with a + hissing sound she took off. The 'aeroplanes' on top of the envelope + sprang forward and the ship rapidly gained height and speed. + + ((For a more detailed account of this sighting please refer + to the JULY / AUGUST 1966 issue of The Flying Saucer Review.)) + + The 'pumping noise' is of great significance. This noise is noted in + at least three of the sightings. Twice it was referred to as being + similar to that made by a milk separator. This is almost conclusive, + it was Thomas Kane whom Pennington joined in 1894, who made the + motors for these separators. + + All witnesses agree that there were lights aboard in abundance with + one very bright searchlight which was seen to dim as the airship + accelerated. + + One witness encountering the aeronaut grounded claims to have asked + why he turned the light on and off so much. He replied, no doubt + truthfully that it consumed a great deal of motive power. We are led + to the conclusion that Pennington's ship was propelled by a petro- + electric, or diesel-electric system. A bank of large batteries would + be charged by a motor driven dynamo and would then operate electric + motors geared to the airscrew(s). This system was widely used for + the propulsion of road vehicles in the early years of this century. + + After a trip of some miles it might be necessary to land to recharge + batteries. Such a propulsion system would be well within + Pennington's capabilities at this time. + + + + Page 4 + + The crew referred to by some witnesses included a woman, and it was + customary for Pennington to take his wife on most of his exploits. + (He married three times but I cannot find record of any children.) + Also a bearded man. + + I have a photograph of Pennington with one of his vehicles and here + he is accompanied by a man with a beard. Pennington himself was tall + and of good physique. He usually sported a rather long dark + moustache. + + The next evidence required toward proving that the ship was not only + terrestrial but Pennington's, is to plot the course of the airship + from recorded sightings during the 'voyages' of 1897 and to show + that its speed was within the capabilities of such an early craft + and that it operated in the vicinity of Pennington workshops. + + Here I suggest the reader obtain a good large scale map of the + central States of America. Those included in the Encyclopedia + Britannica of 1911 are most useful being nearly contemporary. + + Two series of sightings occured in 1897. + + EXPEDITION ONE. + + Starting from Pennington's base at Oswego, Kansas, to Belleville, + Kansas, to arrive March 25th, thence to Sioux City some 200 miles + northward travelling at night. Making around 40 mph and in fair + weather the six or so hours of darkness would make for an easy + arrival by 28th March. Here the ship landed and charged batteries? + + Turning southward an easy night run of 100 miles allowed late + worshippers leaving church at Omaha, Nebraska to view the aerial + visitor. Continuing via Lincoln and Beatrice on the southerly run + arrival at Everest, Kansas on April 1st., another 100 miles apart. + In fact Kansas City was reached quite early at 8:15. + + Back to base at Oswego without serious mishap on about the 3rd. + April? + + After this there are three possibilities. + + a) Pennington flew to Racine on lake Michigan by April 9th + keeping to out-of-the-way landing sites. + + b) The ship was partly dismantled and carried by rail in + Pennington's closed rail cars to Racine. + + c) That Thomas Kane had another similar airship at Racine. + + I would suggest (b) as being the most probable in the circumstances. + + Pennington had the resources and the experience in moving large + objects by rail from place to place, vide (as for example), his + captive airship which was shown at exhibitions at Chicago and + elsewhere. + + + + + Page 5 + + EXPEDITION TWO. + + The Airship would have taken the air on the evening of April 9th + 1897 and leaving Racine some 60 miles from Chicago was seen first + north of the city and then to south-east at 9:30p.m. passing over + the lake. + + Turning westward the ship would have reached the vicinity of Eldon + in Iowa some 200 miles after five hours at around forty mph. + + Spending the day of the 10th on the ground at some secluded spot the + batteries would again be charged and ready for the take-off on the + evening of April 10th. Then passing over Eldon westward to Ottumwa + (10 miles) at 7:25 and 7:40 p.m. respectively, the ship is seen near + Albia 25 miles further on at about 8:10 p.m. + + This chain of sightings allows some estimation of the airship's + speed-35 miles in 45 minutes which is better than 45 mph. Wind speed + must be taken into account, but from the sighting reports the + weather during this period seems to have been remarkably calm. + + Steering now toward the north-west apparently en route for Racine, + the ship would have passed near Mount Carroll but the date given for + the airship over this city is April 9th. One must conclude that if + this date is correct that the craft passed over this city on the + westward leg of its journey before turning south-east toward Eldon. + This is perfectly possible on the time schedule estimated. + + However, and here one must speculate on Pennington's movements, it + is not certain how the airship arrived at its next point at Yates + Center, Kansas on April 19th. It could well have travelled at night + over the next week or so southward which would be well within its + 40 mph capabilities. Or it may have been once more despatched by + rail. + + At Yates Center there was the unfortunate incident of a young heifer + becoming entangled in the mooring rope on takeoff. Then southeast + and a fairly long haul- 400 miles - to near Texarkana, but at 40 mph + only ten hours of darkness were necessary. Here the ship was obliged + to land on April 21st. to recharge batteries. In the evening when + all was ready for take-off the airship was spotted by one Captain J. + Hooten whose detailed report is well known. + + Airborne again and travelling in a leisurely manner Hot Springs, + Arkansas was reached on May 6th. Once more the ship landed and was + encountered by the Law Officers, Constable Sumpter and Deputy + Sheriff McLemore. Both these gentlemen have sworn affidavits to + their evidence in which they tell of a bearded mechanic and a young + woman. + + There was also a young man who was engaged in filling a water bag. + They were informed that the ship was en route for Nashville, + Tennessee. This may well have been so, but I feel that it was not + long before it was once again safely in Oswego, Kansas with + Pennington highly satisfied with his aerial exploits. There is + little evidence of its re-appearance. + + From the foregoing evidence it must be conceded that the itinerary + + Page 6 + + followed by the 1897 airship was not particularly miraculous even + for a craft of that period, only it took place in America where + hitherto no such aerial exploits had been seen. No wonder then, that + the onlookers became scared and confused, suspecting the work of the + Devil. The only Devil responsible was in my opinion one eccentric, + brilliant inventor named Edward Joel Pennington. + + Of course there are so many questions left unanswered. For instance + why did Pennington decide to drop the whole project just when fame + and fortune might seem to have been within his grasp? I would + suggest that he was clever enough to realize that his airship, + though a very remarkable invention, had very severe limitations + which could not readily be overcome. + + There would be little prospect of increasing the battery capacity + without making the ship larger and unwieldy. It was obviously very + much a fine weather craft and he had been extraordinarily lucky to + have had such a long spell of fine, calm weather for his trials. + + Also, he would have realized that until the internal combustion + engine could be improved considerably in size and reliability the + whole airship had better be shelved. The new and more financially + rewarding field of the motor car must have seemed to Pennington to + offer much better prospects of immediate financial rewards. He must + also have known that there were aeronautical designers in Europe who + had forged ahead in the airship field with whom he could hardly + compete. + + In the Motor Museum in Beaulieu, Hampshire there is a very rare + vehicle. It is an 1896 Pennington motor-tricycle. It is worth + looking at closely. The twin-cylinder, water cooled engine functions + by fuel injection and the ignition system is remarkably ingenious, + operating an early form of spark plug on each cylinder. + + The wheels have wire spokes and furnished with wide tires of modern + cross section. It is a really remarkable piece of advanced + engineering for its time and marks its designer, Pennington, as a + brilliant engineer of foresight and genius. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2873.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2873.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8059385a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2873.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,433 @@ + +SUBJECT: AERO CLUB IN THE MID 1850's FILE: UFO2873 + + + + +PART 6 + + + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + + There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS + on duplicating, publishing or distributing the + files on KeelyNet except where noted! + + December 1, 1991 + + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Vangard Sciences has made contact with Jimmy Ward and Pete + Navarro as mentioned in the Fate article on the 1897 Airships + (AERO1 through AERO3 on KeelyNet). Mr. Jimmy Ward has provided + us with a series of papers written by both Pete and Jimmy + several years ago. These papers are sourced from the original + Dellschau notebooks with correlations and information provided + by the authors. + + We wish to thank Mr. Jimmy Ward and Mr. P.G. Navarro for + graciously sharing their work with KeelyNet. If you have + thoughts or ideas relating to the areas touched on in these + papers, we invite your comments either through the Vangard + Sciences mailing address, uploaded to KeelyNet or you may write + directly to Jimmy at : + + Jimmy Ward + 1511 Summer St. + Houston, TX 77007 + + In our attempts to integrate a wide range of studies, we at + Vangard Sciences are of the opinion that the Airship inventors, + particularly those Airships described by DELLSCHAU, discovered + one of the many gases we believe to exist below Hydrogen. The + N.B. gas would easily fit within the 26 anticipated gases + having a mass number of less than 1.008, that of Hydrogen. + + If we can rediscover how the gas was extracted from the + atmosphere, it will open up entirely new avenues of transport. + Note that Hydrogen is the MOST ABUNDANT element in the + Universe. If Hydrogen is a composite of other elements as + Keely found, then N.B. gas must be one of those elements and in + greater abundance. + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The Great Airship Inventors + Fact and Fancy + + In 1896, all up and down the Sacramento Valley of California, a + blinding light was seen coming from an aerial object and playing on + the ground below. The adverse weather appeared to have NO EFFECT on + the object - it sailed majestically and smoothly along DESPITE the + rain and wind, from Oroville to San Francisco and from Oakland to + Sacramento. What was this strange object with the brilliant light? + + + Page 1 + + R. Boynton, editor of the Oroville Register, thought he might have + the answer. A few years back, he recalled, there was a mining camp + called Cherokee, at the top of Table Mountain, overlooking Oroville. + Many of its workers were of Portuguese extraction. In the early + 80s, he said, they worked the bluffs and celebrated big days with + balloon ascensions. Huge blazing torches would be suspended beneath + the balloons on long ropes and they would float off over the valley, + making for quite a show. + + The problem is that the torches would soon burn out and the people + were now reporting a light MUCH BRIGHTER than a torch and, besides, + it was A BEAM OF LIGHT that was reported shining down. To top it + all off, the mining had stopped and the Portuguese HAD LEFT THE AREA + SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE. Still, Table Mountain WOULD make an ideal + site for secret experiments and base of operations due to its rather + inaccessible location and yet nearness to a fair-sized town. + + Much has been written about these mystery airships, but little real + research has been undertaken. Most writers have relied on other + writers and their own preconceived opinions and errors have been + compounded. The first sighting is usually given as "sometime during + the week of Thanksgiving", but REALLY occurred during the first week + in November, the story first appeared in the papers during + Thanksgiving week. There is a possibility of an even earlier + sighting. + + On September 20, 1896, an astronomer named Swift noticed a light + about the magnitude of Venus at its brightest out over the Pacific + Ocean. It was about 1 degree from the setting sun and thought to be + a new comet. The next evening it was not there. Weeks later they + mystery light would be seen to go out over the ocean several times + and disappear or come in from the ocean and head inland. + + There are differing versions of the first real sighting of the + craft, but the gist of the event is as follows: + + As dusk was descending on San Francisco, His Honor, Mayor Sutro, + arrived at his mansion which was West of the city and overlooked + the ocean. A light was seen coming in from the direction of the + Pacific. It passed over Seal Rocks shining its beam on the + seals, sending them complaining into the water. + + One account quoted the witnesses as describing the craft as having a + bright light fore and aft and a row of smaller lights along its + side; however, this appears to have been an embellishment by the + reporter because as it leisurely sailed over Twin Peaks, all that + could be seen was a bright beam of light emitted by a dark and + formless source. Cable cars stopped and the passengers and crew + piled out to watch the wonder silently pass overhead. What was it? + Where had it come from? + + November 1, 1896, the Detroit Free Press reported that in the near + future a New York inventor would construct and fly an "aerial + torpedo boat." On November 17, 1896, a telegram was reported to + have been received by the Sacramento Bee from a man in New York who + claimed that he was about to fly to California along with some + friends. He said the trip should take about two days. This might + explain the later sightings, but what about the prior sightings? + And there WERE earlier ones! + + Page 2 + + One of the earliest man-made airship stories appeared in the Santa + Fe Daily New Mexican of March 26, 1880. It told of an enormous + airship that swept over this tiny town of Galisteo Junction. It was + cigar shaped with a tail and was driven by a huge propellor. The + occupants were described as inebriated and a couple of items were + thrown overboard - a beautiful rose fastened with a slip of fine + silk-like paper containing what was thought to have been "Oriental + characters" and a cup "of very peculiar workmanship." + + The next morning the items were on display at the railroad depot. + That evening a stranger appeared, pronounced them of Asian origin + and made the "owner" a financial deal he could not refuse. The man + and objects then disappeared as would happen again and again in the + future of UFOs. + + The story of C.A.A. Dellschau and the Sonora Aero Club has been + presented as the core of this series of articles. But they were not + the only ones who laid claim to the invention of the earliest + airships in the World. In "Milestones of the Air" there is + reproduced a pair of stereo photos showing Frederick Marriott's + "Avitor" airship/airplane combination, flown in California in 1869. + While Marriott was not THE man behind the Airships nearly 30 years + later, his ideas played a part in many later designs. And his + "Avitor" bore a striking resemblance to many of these later ships. + One major difference between the "Avitor" and the airships is that + the "Avitor" utilized a football-shaped gas bag and the later ships + were often described as MADE OF METAL or "Aluminum looking." + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The famous Aurora, Texas, "spaceship" crash is a good example. + While there is a good probability that this story was a hoax, it may + have some basis in fact. The following story was told to the author + and permission to tell it in print was given PROVIDED the names of + the people involved were changed. + + In 1888, a 15 year old boy was living with his widowed mother and + sisters on a small farm near the now extinct town of Grundy, Texas. + While working in the garden he heard what he thought was a clap of + thunder. Before he could look up from his weeding, things began to + fall around him, hard little pieces of metal, larger pieces and many + heavy objects which struck the ground. He fled for cover in the + house. + + After things stopped falling, he went back outside and walked over + to a large object on the ground, which moved, and proved to be a + man. He was badly hurt, having fallen quite a distance to earth. + His mother and sisters arrived and helped him move the man into the + house, out of the hot Texas sun. + + The people at Grundy heard the noise and some men rode out from town + to investigate. At the farm they found out about the "man who fell + from the sky." Some doubted, some laughed; yet they all had a look + at this man. And they told the mother and her children that the man + was not to be moved until the Sheriff could be summoned to the farm. + The Sheriff was not at Grundy and it would take a couple of days to + fetch him. The man regained consciousness that evening and he spoke + to them, but they could not understand his language. They offered + him food, but the only things he accepted were water and a piece of + + Page 3 + + melon. A few hours later he died. The family was afraid to move + the body until the Sheriff came, so they wrapped him in a blanket + and left his body on the bed. + + The Sheriff did not show up the next day, but several hundred people + from Grundy and the surrounding countryside did. The riders had + told everyone in sight about the man out at the farm and they came + in wagons, on horseback, and on foot to see him. The people + crowding in at the window flattened the garden and what people + didn't trample, the horses did. All day long people showed up, + needing water for their horses. They emptied the tank and pumped + the well dry. + + When night fell, the family slipped the body out of the house and + buried it away from the house along with the things the man had with + him. The well went completely dry and, having no reserve water, no + food left in the garden, and no money to have a new well dug, the + family was forced into abandoning the farm. + + This story may be considered a pure figment of the imagination, but + several years later, in 1944, this teen-age boy, now an elderly man, + told the story to some friends. Their faces must have shown doubt + because he suddenly rose, left the house and returned a few minutes + later with several pieces of metal, one he handed out for + examination and the rest he placed on the wood stove. + + The first piece was very light, about 1/2 inch thick and, roughly, + 6" by 9", concave on one side, convex on the other. The edges + looked like they had been "torn", with a crystal structure at right + angles to the face. The metal was a silver-gray color. It could + not be scratched with a file nor dented with a hammer, even on the + edges. + + The old man then took the pieces of metal from the stovetop with his + bare hands and passed them around. It was heavier than the first + piece and of smaller dimensions. It was a dark bluish color. And + it was NOT hot, although it had laid on the stove top long enough to + be VERY hot! Though of obvious different composition, this piece + could not be scratched or dented either. When his friends commented + that they must be pieces of some new metal for airplanes, the old + man laughed and said he'd had those fragments since HE WAS A KID! + + They were some of the pieces he had picked up when the man fell from + the sky. He also said that many of those who had come by had also + picked up pieces, but he did not know if any of them were still + around. He DID know that there were still pieces to be found around + the old farm. + + (While the author has not personally visited the site nor knows + of its EXACT location, he was in contact with a gentleman who + said he had found it in North Texas near the Panhandle. (Near + Amarillo or Canyon, possibly...Vangard) + + There were no buildings there, only traces where they had once + stood. He also found a few small pieces of shrapnel-like + metal slightly buried in the soil. But before a full report + could be made or the metal tested, he died in a traffic + accident and his wife threw the fragments away along with his + notes. + + Page 4 + + Anyone who has information about strange fragments of metal + from this area or is interested in pursuing this story + personally, please contact me through KeelyNet (info at + beginning of this file).) + + As mentioned previously, the Grundy airship and the Aurora airship + stories have a number of points in common. We may never know + whether they are two different stories or one based on the other. + With the 3-ring circus atmosphere at Aurora, the destruction caused + by over-zealous "investigators", as well as the harassment of the + citizens, it is no wonder people began to deny the event ever took + place and claimed it was a hoax from the beginning! + + But was it entirely a hoax? Could there have been some truth in it? + Could there be a stranger's body buried somewhere in the cemetery? + + Maybe not an Alien but A HUMAN BODY belonging to an airship inventor + who spoke a language other than English? To prevent the same things + from happening in the Grundy story, the names of the families + involved and their present whereabouts have been withheld, pending + further investigation. The town of Grundy no longer exists and had + not for many years, so no ones privacy will be invaded by divulging + ITS name. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + More down to Earth, so to speak, are the following stories : + + The Galveston Daily News of April 29, 1897 reads: + + "It may be that those people out west who for the last six + months have been filling the papers with accounts of a + mysterious airship which they have seen in the sky are not + monumental liars after all. It is possible that experiments + now being made by the U.S. Government with a view to producing + a genuine air ship may be responsible for their visions. + + "For several years the government has had in its employ a well- + known aeronaut, who gets, it is said, a salary of $10,000 a + year, and constant work and experiment have been going on at + Fort Logan, near Denver. A profound secrecy has been + maintained as to what has been accomplished, even Army + officers themselves only getting vague inklings of what is + going on." + + Somehow this sounds familiar in today's UFO world. Who this well- + known aeronaut really was, was not divulged, but papers across the + country listed dozens of POSSIBLE inventors of the mystery airships, + among the many named included the following partial list : + + George Jennings - Fresno, California + W. H. Warren - Hayward, California + John A. Horen - San Jose, California + Anton Pallardy - Beatrice, Nebraska + H. John O. Prease - Omaha, Nebraska + Clinton A. Case (A.C. Clinton) - Omaha, Nebraska + Charles Clinton - Dodge City, Kansas + Harry Tibbs - Louisville, Kentucky + Edward J. Pennington - Mount Carmel, Illinois + + Page 5 + C. Devonbaugh - Vandalia, Illinois + Valney Stewart - Brule, Wisconsin + + Other names tossed around included : + + J. F. Calipha George Francis Train + Prof. Charles Davidson Albert Whipple + + Three names are not included in the above lists : + + C.A.A. Dellschau - the central character of this series of + articles, + Mr. Wilson - the pilot of an airship reported in the first + of this series and his equally mysterious + "rich Uncle", and + Dr. Benjamin - and HIS uncle. + + Early in November, 1896, a Bay Area attorney had received assurances + from an inventor, who wished to remain anonymous, that the problems + of air travel had been solved, George D. Collins let it leak out + that the mystery craft seen over Sacramento and the surrounding + countryside was the invention of his new client. He later stated + that $100,000 and five years had gone into perfecting the 150 foot + machine and that he had been "favored with a demonstration at a + secret location." By the 22nd, his home and office were overrun by + reporters and just plain snoopers, pressing him for details. + + Backed into a corner, Collins admitted that the craft was hidden in + a barn in Berkeley during the daylight hours and that a Dr. Benjamin + had something to do with the builiding of it. "Dr. Benjamin" turned + outo be E. H. Benjamin of Ellis Street, a 34-year old bachelor, + dentist, and dabbler with inventions and recently from somewhere in + Maine. He denied any knowledge of this ship. He did admit he had + frequently visited an unnamed uncle at Oroville and that he had + privately confided to friends that he had invented something which + would revolutionise the world. + + Government agents, detectives, reporters and railroad men were quick + to swarm over Oroville especially when they heard Benjamin say that, + if he HAD invented the craft, he wouldn't be so foolish as to admit + it in public. The uncle was never found nor was any evidence that + an airship had been built there as claimed. + + Attorney Collins, hounded by reporters, the curious, and the + outright cranks, changed his story completely and denied ever having + ANY knowledge at all of the craft. The Patent Office in Washington, + D.C., was flooded with inquiries about Collins application. + Disclaimers were returned instead. + + "Aluminum Benjamin", as he became known probably because several + close witnesses claimed it looked "like aluminum", complained to the + press that he had to move to escape the curious and that eating in + public restaurants proved to be impossible because throngs would + quickly gather to stare, giggle, and gesture at the windows of the + establishment. He feared his mind would soon become unhinged. + Benjamin finally fled the area leaving what personal effects he had + behind in his apartment. + + In the meantime, Collins had been fired for talking too much and + slowly faded out of the picture. W. H. H. Hart now came forward + + Page 6 + + claiming that HE was in secret communication with the inventor. + Hart was a former State Attorney General, a bearded, distinguished + looking gentleman and one of the most respected men in California. + + In the 1907 issue of the National Cyclopedia of American Biography, + it was stated that Hart was the discoverer of "the only mine in the + world in which osmium is found in metal form....in large + quantities." The metal was used chiefly in the manufacture of + electric storage batteries. One of the chief features of these + aircraft were their powerful SEARCHLIGHTS that could turn night into + day from hundreds of feet above. + + Hart also stated that while he knew very little about the airship + THERE, he had been concerned with its sister ship IN THE EAST for + some time. He refused to say much about either ship and nothing + about the inventors or where the ships were built or housed. + Sightings became rare and with no NEW news, the story was dropped - + unsolved! + + Then in the April 12, 1897, issue of the Chicago Journal appeared a + brief item. It stated that Oscar D. Booth of 158 South Peoria + Street firmly believed the strange object seen was indeed an + airship. It seems Mr. Booth was ready to build one himself and was + merely waiting for the return of the Secretary of the Booth Flying + Machine Company whose name, by the way, was E. H. BENJAMIN! + + Coincidence? Coincidences abound in the story of the Great + Airships. A few have been brought out in this article. Another in + the following. + + Several times and in different parts of the country witnesses have + stated that they had met the captain/or crew of the local airship + and had been informed the craft had been to THE MONTEZUMA MOUNTAINS. + + In researching the Dellschau material, he, too, mentioned flying to + the MONTEZUMA MOUNTAINS, but no map could be found showing any such + mountains. Finally, two old maps were found. One Mexican map shows + a range of mountains in the southern part of California just below + San Francisco that bear the label MONTEZUMA MOUNTAINS. (The exact + peaks have not yet been identified with today's labelling.) + + A second old map shows another Montezuma Mountains. This one in New + York. It is now, ironically, a wild fowl preserve and is not too + far from Goshen, New York, the alleged home of the mysterious "Mr. + Wilson" and HIS uncle! + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2874.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2874.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2dedb94b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2874.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ + +SUBJECT: AERO CLUB IN THE MID 1850's FILE: UFO2874 + + + + +PART 7 + + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + + There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS + on duplicating, publishing or distributing the + files on KeelyNet except where noted! + + February 15, 1992 + + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + This file courteously shared with KeelyNet through the research + efforts of Pete Navarro and Jimmy Ward. + + If you might wish to correspond directly with Jimmy or Pete, you may + do so at the following address: + + Jimmy Ward + 1511 Summer St. + Houston, TX 77007 + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + NYMZA Aeros - The Airships of the 1850's + + Have you heard of Schultz' Hydrowhir Auto, also known as the "Cripel + Wagon"? If not, perhaps you have heard or read somewhere about + Peter Mennis' "Aero Goosey"? How about Schoetler's "Aero Dora", + which was built in 1858 and was destroyed in a fire which consumed + the town of Columbia, California that same year? Chances are you + never heard or read about any of the above or the many other + "Aeros', or aircraft that were designed and actually built and flown + by members of the Sonora Aero Club around the middle of the last + century in California. + + These aircraft were navigable airships, designed and built at a time + when the only means of flight was the aerial balloon, which lacked + maneuverability and was subject to the whims of the wind. + + According to C.A.A. Dellschau, a member of the Sonora Aero Club who + kept a secret record of all their activities and experiments which + they carried out in the vicinity of Sonora and Columbia, California + during the years 1850 to 1858, several of their airship designs were + built and flight-tested in the area which is now an airfield just + outside of the town of Columbia. It is conceivable that these + aircraft may have flown over the region as far as the giant redwoods + area of California for Dellschau states that one of their airships + became accidentally entangled in the branches of a giant California + redwood, resulting in the death of its pilot, who fell from the Aero + and broke his neck. + + Dellschau referred to this aircraft model as a "flying trap", + perhaps because it contained a device that was hung underneath the + carriage of the airship and served as a "ballancier". However, this + + + Page 1 + + device was dangerous, as it could easily get caught upon any tall + tree or obstacle close to the ground. + + It is very possible that these aircraft were the progenitors of the + Mystery Airships that were observed flying over Oakland and other + points in California and in the Southwestern part of the country in + the 1890's. + + What leads me to believe that there was connection between these + aeros and the Mystery Airships is the fact that, although Dellschau + was an avid collector of news stories dealing with airships or + anything aeronautical; not ONE item concerning the Mystery Airship + sightings is to be found among his collection. Cout it be that he + was reluctant to show any connection because of the fear of + divulging matters of secret trust? + + In one of his books the name WILSON is mentioned, and alludes to + Wilson and his CREW. Anyone who has read of the stories that + appeared in the newspapers of the 1890's is probably well acquainted + with this name, for it is the name of the pilot of one of these + Mystery Airships, and it is very possible that Dellschau was + acquainted with him and his crew. But why all the secrecy? + + It may be said here that members of the Sonora Aero Club were also + adjoined to a secret organization or society known only by the + initials N-Y-M-Z-A, which oversaw the workings of all its junior + members. They were all subject to strict obedience of the rules + imposed by this Secret Society and the divulging of its secret + operations was not permitted. It was for this very reason that + Dellschau kept all this to himself and eventually, when he finally + decided to write about it he did it secretly, and this in code and + in cryptograms and symbols, which only those with the patience and + willingness to spend time in deciphering his writings would be able + to read it and know what had been accomplished by them. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + Vangard note.. + + Strangely enough, I (Jerry) know a lady technical representative + who is based out of Hollywood, Florida. In December of 1991, I + was telling her about the Aeros and the mysterious substance + known as N.B. or "float" gas. She was much interested and told + me that her late grandfather was a member of some super-secret + group which had secret meetings and seemed to have contacts + overseas. + + She said that as a little girl, she had lived with her + grandfather for one summer. He had a huge library with all + sorts of strange books, some in a code type of language. She + was not allowed entry into the library or certain rooms of the + house. + + When asking her father about what her grandfather was involved + with, he told her that his father was a member of what he + claimed was a very secret and very ancient group. This group + was several hundred years ahead of mankind and members were + sworn to secrecy under threat of death. + + The lady also told me that when her grandfather died, men showed + + Page 2 + + up at his house with signed papers giving them the right to + remove whatever they felt was necessary. The men took the + majority of his library and all his private papers. They also + took what was in the rooms she was forbidden to enter as a + child. + + Her father was also forbidden to pursue the matter although he + also spied on his father when he was young. The mysterious men + also collected the majority of the grandfather's inheritance + which was bequeathed to the group. This might possibly give us + a clue since there must be records as to WHO received the + inheritance, either a person or a group. That in turn would + give us a further name to look into. + + The grandfather was a strict vegetarian and had very precise and + detailed habits which he believed had allowed him to live to his + ripe 70's, yet he looked like a man in his late 40's. She also + said he would walk in the grass early every morning and said + that the dew was very beneficial to life. + + I have asked her for specific names and any other information + she could gather relating to her grandfather, specifically a + newspaper article she was sent about 2 years ago. She promised + to find it and make me a copy. This could lead to something if + such a group exists in fact. + + I asked her if the group might have been either Rosicrucian or + of a magical nature and she said, no, that it was very + scientific and dealt heavily with music. Her grandfather owned + and operated a school of music in which he got heavily involved + after joining the group. Prior to that, music was not his means + of income. + + Also, as to the name NYMZA, Jimmy and Pete say that these German + immigrants might have used either German or a combination of + German and English. Since they were based in the East, it would + follow that NY would equal New York, M could equal Mechanical, Z + could very well equal the German word Zephyr (meaning wind from + the west), and A could mean Association. + + So we have the term, New York Mechanical Zephyr Association, or + NYMZA, indicating mechanical flying devices from the west, as + would be seen through a European (eastern) viewpoint. Just an + attempt to derive a logical name, might be incorrect. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + The tragic case of Jacob Mischer and his Aero will serve to point to + the severity with which the rules of this secret society known as + NYMZA were enforced. + + Jacob Mischer was the designer and builder of a rather large, or + medium-sized aircraft which was called the "Aero Flyerless Gander". + This airship was flown on a hundred mile trip and was successfully + landed on land and on water, for it had wheels as well as pontoons. + + Jacob Mischer, however, met a most unfortunate end, for he became + greedy and desired to make a profit from his invention, intending to + use it for hauling material and equipment for the miners in the + area. This was looked upon by the headmasters of the secret society + + Page 3 + + as being strictly against the rules and, one way or another, Jacob + Mischer ended up dead when his ship was destroyed in a blinding + aerial explosion. Dellschau alludes to this incident as something + that was deliberate and NOT accidental. + + The most successful of their aircraft, and probably the first to be + flown was Peter Mennis' "Aero Goosey", which was built in 1857 and + set the precendent for all subsequent Aero designs and, although + modifications were gradually added to new Aero designs, the Aero + Goosey continued to be flown as originally designed with only minor + changes and was the aircraft favored mostly by Peter Mennis for + short flights. + + Peter Mennis ranged far and wide on several occasions, but he was + able to land and use his Aero as a place to spend the night, for it + was equipped with a canvas conver which served as a tent. + + The original "Aero Goosey" was a small craft with a basket-type + affair in which the pilot and passengers sat at the bow and stern + ends of the airship. It carried a liquid fuel container in the + center of the craft and a gas converter under the seats. Attached + to the center pole was the air-pressure motor which was used to + propel the airship, and two gas bags were on the sides. It was a + very simply designed airship, and, despite all modifications and + improvements that were made upon this original model and its "motor" + design, the mode of operation and function of its internal workings + remained basically the same in all subsequent models with the + exception of size and appearance and the addition of useful + conveniences such as galleys, toilets, beds, tables, and other + gimcracks of one kind or another. + + Louis Caro, another member of the Sonora Aero Club expressed it very + well when he said that he and his colleagues agreed on one thing; + and that was the fact that they all longed for an airship design + which would have all the features of the Aero Goosey, but be larger + and yet be safe. Several very large models were designed toward + this end and proposed but were never built. There were, however, + several medium-sized models which were actually built, and flown. + + One of these was the "Aero Dora", which was another of the most + favorable designs. This Aero was first envisioned by Ernest Kraus + and was later elaborated upon by several other members of the club + who were very pleased with its appearance and function and used it + as a basis upon which to apply their own ideas. + + The Aero Dora was equipped with a "sucker-kicker", which was a + device for compressing air and operated very much like a JET for + propulsion. Yes, several of these Aeros had devices that were years + ahead of their times, and included up to date contrivances such as + retractable landing gear, shock absorbers, gas converters, spot- + lights, and many other novel ideas for their time, for one must take + into consideration that these were entirely new concepts, or + designs, with absolutely no precendent to go by, and it is for this + reason that some of the aircraft look so fantastically monstrous and + absolutely unfeasable as aeronautical machines. In other words, + none of them look like they could even BEGIN to get off the ground, + much less fly! + + This was no problem for them though, for they possessed a formula + + Page 4 + + for producing a SPECIAL GAS, called "NB" gas, which was capable of + lifting the most ponderous construction with a minimum of gas. The + gas was produced on board the aircraft and carried in one or several + gas bags on top or on the sides of the airship. Marthin Karo, one + of the members of the Club and inventor of a "hood" for carrying + excess gas referred to this lifting agent as "FLOAT", which is a + good description of its function. + + George Newell was the inventor of a "gas motor" called "VOLTA" which + produced the "Lift Power" used on most of the airships. This was a + modified version of earlier gas motor designs or "converters" which + were used in earlier Aero models. + + As for the Cripel Wagon...this was actually a wheeled land vehicle + designed in 1837 by Friderich Schultz but was adapted in 1857 for + use as an airship by August Schoetler with the addition of gas bags + and "air squeezers" which made the vehicle airborne, converting it + into an airship with hydrowheels (wheels with water inside instead + of air). "Air squeezers" were similar to "sucker kickers" and + consisted of a tube through which air was compressed and ejected + (similar to a jet engine). + + The "Aero Buster" was an airship that was built but never flown. It + was designed and built by Max Miser and was equipped with a + parachute-like device. Before it was completed Max Miser remarked + that if his Aero ever got off the ground he would not want anybody + going up in it but him. "I am enough to break my neck", he said. + + The Aero was completed except for the installation of the power + chamber and the fuel which only Peter Mennis could provide, since he + was the only one who knew the secret formula for producing it. + However, for some unkown reason, Peter Mennis refused to provide the + fuel or help Miser with the construction of the gas producing + chamber and consequently this aircraft was never able to get off the + ground. Many years later (in 1912) Dellschau would reminisce about + this incident and would remark on whether gasoline would have + "filled the bill" and would have made it possible for this airship + to fly. Of course, gasoline had not been discovered yet. + + Of the more than one hundred airship designs in Dellschau's books + probably not more than eight or ten were actually built and flown. + And they were a howling success! + + Why they didn't announce it to the world and reap their share of + profits and fame from their efforts is strange indeed. Could it be + that they were only conducting tests for others to follow? It is + only too clear that NYMZA was a very strict organization and that + any member who disregarded the rules of this secret society usually + PAID WITH HIS LIFE. + + Dellschau faced the same threat to his life and it is believed that + he may have died a violent death, although this is strictly + conjecture. The fact is that Dellschau died in the year 1923 at the + age of 93 and was buried in Washington Cemetery in Houston, Texas. + He left behind a dozen large volumes in which he told many things + about their activities in California, but he never would say WHAT + NYMZA WAS, nor what the initials stood for, except to say that it + was work being done FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. Thus NYMZA remains a + mystery to all except to those who may read this and KNOW its + + Page 5 + + significance, for there may still be members of this society who + will continue to keep their vows of secrecy and may still be working + on yet other clandestine projects. You may very well ask; What + experiments could they (the present members of NYMZA) be engaged in + today? The spaceships of the 1990's? Who Knows? + + P. G. Navarro + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +************************************** +* FROM THE U.F.O. BBS - 408-847-7910 * +************************************** + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Page 6 diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2875.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2875.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2e7305e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2875.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,365 @@ + +SUBJECT: AERO CLUB IN THE MID 1850's FILE: UFO2875 + + + + +PART 8 + + + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + + There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS + on duplicating, publishing or distributing the + files on KeelyNet except where noted! + + February 15, 1992 + + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + This file courteously shared with KeelyNet through the research + efforts of Pete Navarro and Jimmy Ward. + + If you might wish to correspond directly with Jimmy or Pete, you may + do so at the following address: + + Jimmy Ward + 1511 Summer St. + Houston, TX 77007 + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Dellschau and other "Aeronauts" + by Jimmy Ward and P.G. Navarro + + Among the thousands of drawings of strange and wondrous aircraft + produced by Dellschau are notations, remarks, and comments; some in + "clear" and some in code which, when pieced together, tell the story + of a group of industrious, aeronautically-minded inventors who + gathered in and around the towns of Sonora and Columbia, California + about the middle of the 19th century. They were members of an + "Aeroy Club", which was the original name of the club, but was + changed to the "Sonora Aero Club" in 1858 after becoming associated + with a Society "back East" known as NYMZA. Most of the members of + the Sonora Aero Club were German immigrants, with at least two + Spanish or Mexican members, one Frenchman, and three or four + Englishmen. + + The towns of Sonora and Columbia were not the movie or TV + stereotypes of goldfish towns, which picture the inhabitants of + mining towns in those days as rough-shod, unmannerly, and + unschooled. It was on March 27, 1850 that Dr. Thaddeus Hildreth, + his brother George, and a handful of prospectors made their camp + near the site of what was to become Columbia. They found gold there + and the stampede was on. Before the month was out there were some + 5,000 prospectors in the area and a thriving tent and shanty town + was born. + + At first it was called Hildreth's Diggings, then American Camp, and + finally Columbia. Streets were laid out and the tents and shanties + replaced by more permanent structures. By the end of 1852 there + were more than 150 places of business (including 30 saloons and a + brewery), a church, Sunday School, Masonic Lodge, and even a branch + of the Sons of Temperance. In 1854, fire destroyed everything in + + Page 1 + + the center of business district except for one brick building. In + the next year and a half some 30 buildings were built, this time + from locally produced red brick. + + In 1854, following the fire, the New England Water Company was + organized and supplied the town with its own water for domestic use + and fire protection and, in July 1855, the first piped water was + made available. + + In August 1857, a second fire ravaged the town's business district + and destroyed nearly all structures in a 15 block area. Following + this fire, a volunteer fire department was organized and a new fire + engine was purchased. + + By 1860 the town had the usual Mexican fandango halls, gambling + parlors, saloons and other "houses" of diversion so common to all + mining towns in those days, but there were also more cultural + establishments such as small circuses and theatrical groups, + volunteer military companies, bands, and choral groups. There was + even a two-story brick schoolhouse. + + Sonora, just 6 miles south, was even less like the stereotype mining + town and even contained several book stores that did a thriving + business. It was the cultural center of the area, and the ideal + location for a group of intelligentsia engaged in secret + experiments. Dellschau states that the group held their meetings in + Sonora, but they built and tested their craft near Columbia and + stored their dismantled craft in buildings in Columbia. Dellschau + claims that an airship, which they called the "Aero Dora" had been + built by August Schoetler, tested, and stored in Columbia. Also, + what is now the Columbia Airport is the only level area for miles + around and would have made an ideal test site. With all the mining + equipment and building supplies pouring into Sonora and Columbia, + parts for the secret craft would have passed unnoticed. The only + problem would be keeping the test flights secret, but even the most + ardent prospectors did not work all day, every day, and care could + have been taken to fly only when the "coast was clear". The + airships were equipped with wheels (many were self-propelled) and + they could have been assembled and stored in a nearby location and + wheeled out when the time was ripe for testing. This would have + been simple enough to do since the body fo the craft was wood and + all the external equipment, such as landing gear, paddle wheels, + etc. was bolted on. + + This equipment could have been placed inside the body of the craft + and transported as if they were large borax or equipment-hauling + wagons, which would have attracted no special notice. The only + attention it might have attracted would have been because of the + strange and unusual appearance, but in those days there were many + strange types of wagons which were used for different purposes. + Only after it was re-assembled and the gas bag was attached would it + lose its appearance as a wagon and look like the airship it was + intended to be. + + One aircraft that could have been easily transformed was the "Aero + Goeit". This airship contained a section which could have been + changed to the appearance of a gypsy wagon. The section behind the + main body was like a coal-tender behind a locomotive, but its + purpoer was to hold additional gas (for lift) and to provide + locomotion. + Page 2 + + Incidentally, Goetz's Aero Goeit was flown over the California giant + redwoods area and became entangled in one of the trees, resulting in + the death of one of the club members. The caption on this drawing + reads: + + "Brother Goetz, you gready guts, What you mean whit + your one man flying trapp? + + "Brother Newell, I mean One man is enough to breack + his neck". + + Another aircraft that was readily adaptable as a land vehicle was + the "Crippel Wagon", designed and built by F.W. Schultze. It was + originally designed as a land-traveling vehicle and was called the + "Crippel Wagon Hydro-whir Auto". This vehicle was presumably built + for land use, but was later outfitted with a gas bag and a converter + by August Schoetler who turned it into a flying machine. However, + it appears that due to some indiscretion of Schoetler's, which + compromised the organization by divulging matters of secret trust, + the plans for further development of the Auto-Aero was discontinued + and the machine was dismantled. The possibilities for all the + undertakings mentioned above are there, only the proof is lacking. + + In reply to a letter, listing the names of all known club members, + which was sent to Mr. Carlo De Ferrari, County Historian at Sonora, + by one of the authors, Mr. De Ferrari had this to say: + + "I have run the list of 62 names through my indices, but I have + been unable to identify a single individual. Unless the names + are aliases or in code, they seem to have no local connections. + + "The area you identify as being where the experiments were + conducted (now the Columbia Airport) was known as the Lawndale + Gulch and French Gulch areas at the time and was adjacent to the + town of Springfield. It was quite heavily mined and thickly + populated. Certainly, if any such aerial activities were taking + place there, someone would have noticed." + + He then went into the fact that contemporary diaried and newspapers + contained no mention of such activities. But then he added in + closing: + + "This does not necessarily mean that such activity did not take + place; as it could have been carried out in a highly secretive + manner." + + Since this letter was written several tombstones have been found in + the area bearing names SIMILAR to the names by Dellschau in his + books. There is also NO trace of any Charles Arthur Dellschau, but + there are records of two brothers, John Charles and Arthur D. + Duchow. The records of the Duchow brothers are confusing and often + contradictory. They appear to have been men of mystery themselves, + to some degree. In one instance their name was spelled differently + and several times they used each other's given names arbitrarily. + + According to Dellschau's notations the group wanted secrecy about + themselves AND their activities. They took great pains to ensure + it. But all of this was probably unnecessary. Even with newspaper + accounts and documentation, as an example, how many people know + + Page 3 + + about President Lincoln's U.S. Army Corps of Aeronautics or his + interest in Dr. Solomon Andrews' "Aereon"? For that matter, how + many people have even HEARD of Dr. Solomon Andrews? + + Dr. Solomon Andrews was an M.D. and, for a time, Mayor and Health + Officer of Perth Amboy where he developed the town's first sewer + system to help keep down cholera and yellow fever. He also invented + a sewing machine, a barrel-maker, a fumigator, a velocipede, a gas + lamp, forging presses, a kitchen stove and a pipe that would "filter + out harmful substances" from the tobacco. + + In 1849, Dr. Andrews purchased the old Army barracks at Perth Amboy, + New Jersey and converted them into the "Inventor's Institute", where + he was joined by many other inventors. + + In 1861, Thaddeus Lowe flew 900 miles in an observation balloon that + he had built. Lincoln made him chief of the newly formed U.S. Army + Corps of Aeronautics and he presided over a fleet of observation + balloons that were used in many Civil War engagements, mostly as + spies in the sky. Since there was so little control on the balloons + and the rebels were such crack shots, many were lost in the + fighting. + + A letter dated August 9, 1862, reached President Lincoln from Dr. + Andrews in which he suggested "producing an aerostat for + reconnaissance, if nothing more, in aid of the armies of the Union". + Lincoln thought the idea had merit and asked to be kept informed and + to have eyewitness accounts of the progress and test flights of Dr. + Andrews' Aereon. Although reports were sent to the President, they + never got beyond his secretary. + + On June 1, 1863, Dr. Andrews brought his ship out for its maiden + flight. It leaped into the air and flew INTO the wind at 200 feet. + It was then brought down to a safe landing. His motorless aircraft + had worked, and was navigable. A month later, with refinements, it + was again tested with equally fine results. Another trial, on + September 4, before a reporter from the New York Herald, was so + impressive, the newsman wrote, "With such a machine in the hands of + Jefferson Davis, the armies around Washington would be powerless to + defend the Capital". + + Dr. Andrews was finally able to see President Lincoln and report to + him personally. A Congressional committe was set up by the + Secretary of War Edwin Stanton, to look into the invention and make + recommendations. Hearings were held in March 1864 and immediate + appropriations were recommended. But apparently no one heard of + these recommendations and on March 22, 1865, Andrews received a + letter from the House Military Affairs Committee that they were + really not interested and, besides, the war was over. + + This ended Lincoln's flying warships before they ever got off the + ground. (No pun intended.) If an episode such as the above + involving so many people in high places and so well publicized at + the time can become unknown almost overnight, think how easy it + would be to keep unknown activities of a group who strove to BE + KNOWN. + + Apropos to the above story are several notations and comments made + by Dellschau in his drawings. For example : + + Page 4 + + There are a series of drawings of "Jacke's Aero Hunter" which is + an airship based on his brother Carl Schubert's original design, + known as the "Aero Hunter". On one page is the note "a la + Brother Andrews". This may be an error because the writing + tapers to a point at the end and looks like a series of "e's" or + undotted "i's". + + At any rate, the ship uses 3 gas bags "a la Andrews" (Dr. + Andrews Aereon) rather than the normal one on most of the other + Aeros. Also, Jacke Schubert designed a second craft, the Aero + Hurray, also with 3 balloons or gas bags and flat tailfins in + the rear "a la Andrews", unlike most other Aeros. + + Another notation reads: + + "Again, where material is used other than Peter's fuel, even the + Army, using fire to ascend cannot stay up long, because nothing + travels like Peter's Goose". + + The above refers to Peter Mennis, who ALONE, knew the formula for + producing the gas used on the Aeros. + + Still another: + + "And who are you to question our board? Now what makes (it) + practical (to fly a) military airship (from) 10 or 100 miles an + hour? ? ? Hell. Those acting officers act just like race + track gamblers. No such questions asked as bullet-proof, good + gas reservoir, fall-easy, anti-ballast! What did you say? Holy + red tape. + + "Yes, when weather suits - gas can be got when reaching camp! + What won't Peter Mennis say to you, simply "nonsense". And what + say I that long legged Prussian officer just more train. We got + too much already. Amen." + + And lastly a long message: + + "How would our members laugh, over the deeds of today's + Aeronauts. Nothing new under the heaven, says Brother Lewis + Caro. They build them, with and without using gasses..but 300- + 400 feet long. Nay, nay, never! + + "Yes, Dr. Saxe and Jourdan swearet for fool fun. All over us, + but who of our members did not say, say No sir - Won't go! Now + Kaiser Wilhelm wants sleeping rooms attached to his balloons! + Say Jourdan, can't you supply his majesty? Now next dropping + thing from above shall be unlawful in war and peace time. + + "No bomb - no packages - no stinkeys. Well, who cares for the + laws - up in the clouds? + + "Forbidden fruit tastes very sweet. For instance, the spys a + flying general a ammunition train right under him. He let + something droppe, to hear it boom, and burn it did! But + exploding powders force Aero his flyer and he droppet down + himself! All play things yet - good for time goe by, and money, + yes money always to pay for the funn, and money earning only for + mackers and Booler too. And now, my friends, Good Bye." + + Page 5 CAAD + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + As can be seen from the above, the members, for the most part, were + against war and did not want their craft to be used for war + purposes. And they wanted nothing to do with violence and/or the + military. + + One of Dellschau's drawings graphically shows this. It is a collage + divided down the center. One side consists of newsclippings about + the subject of war and the uses of aircraft for this purpose, along + with a picture of two men talking. Dellschau also includes a + drawing of a black cat, a symbol he often used to designate evil or + bad luck. The other half of the collage depicts a man and a woman + carrying suitcases and golf clubs entering an Aero. The captions + read: "From your Point of View" and "Our Point of View". A very + good reason for keeping their discoveries secret! + + There was also the element of fear; that their machines would be + used by criminals, and several drawings contained a "Press Bluhmen" + with comments about such uses. In one instance, along with a + drawing of the Aero IGOE, is an account both in English, and in + German apparently for emphasis that reads: + + "There stands below a custom house to collect lots of taxes - + Stand there, not in my way. Come right up here and doo collect + for fetching diamonds overland. If not, my dear appraiser - we + going fast somewhere - we not telling you! + + "There flies the burglar's windy craft with lots of luckre, + stolen. What does he care for policeman up here. And let me + tell you...Well you laugh. Have you a bank or a store below? + If so, the time might come when you won't laugh. Nor swear!" + + Are these some of the reasons Dellschau took such great pains to + make it difficult for anyone to read his books and learn about the + Sonora Aero Club and their Aeros? Did the Club really exist or is + it all a figment of Dellschau's imagination? For that matter, who + is Dellschau? He did not seem to even exist prior to 1886 when he + came to Houston! + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2876.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2876.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..78e69d8a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2876.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,670 @@ +SUBJECT: AERIAL NAVIGATION BY CLARA BLOOMFIELD MOORE FILE: UFO2876 + + + +PART 1 + + + Released by VANGARD SCIENCES on August 5, 1989 + for the common good. + + This document is taken from an ORIGINAL UNEDITED COPY of Aerial + Navigation by Clara Bloomfield Moore. We believe this chapter + was excised for reasons unknown and by persons unknown somtime + during the early 1900's in an apparent attempt to suppress + further elucidation of Keely's concepts. + + We of Vangard Sciences feel it should be made available to the + interested public and wish to publicly thank Mr. Victor Hansen + for his sharing such a rare and up to now, highly guarded work. + + + A NEWTON OF THE MIND + + THE PROPELLER OF KEELY'S AIRSHIP DESCRIBED. + + COMPILED BY MRS. BLOOMFIELD MOORE. + + Error is not forever; hope for right. + Darkness is not the opposite of light. + But only absence - day will follow night. + Lowell. + + God sends His teachers unto every age, + To every clime and every race of men, + With revelations fitted to their growth. + Lowell. + + In the progress of the race, man may be likened to a little + child that is now beginning to totter alone, just escaped from + his leading-strings, but with a future of power and intelligence + in his coming manhood past all present computation. + John Sartain. + + Nous marchons tous au milieu de secrets, + entoures de mysteres. + Nous ne savons pas ce qui se passe + dansl'atmosphere oui nous entoure; + Nous ne savons pas quelle relations elle + a avsc notre esprit. + Vitoux. + + "All the work of the world," says Drummond, "is merely + taking advantage of energies already there." In order to take + advantage of these energies, we must not only know of their + existence, but know the laws which govern their operation in + nature; for so only can we conquer them and make our slaves + instead of our masters. + + More than twenty years ago, Keely, by seeming chance, + discovered the unknown polar flow, and without giving any + attention to research, on the line of its origin or of its + operation, began to construct engines to apply the energy to + mechanics. It was not until he had invented his marvelous + researching instruments that his true work of evolution began in + 1888, which, completed in 1893, has now borne the test of + demonstration and given him command of a vibratory circuit for + running machinery, both for terrestrial use and for aerial + navigation. + + Before this could be brought about it was necessary to + effect a sympathetic affinity between his machinery and the polar + flow, minus magnetism. The colossal nature of the difficulties + that he has surmounted can never be realized as by those who have + followed him during the last five years, and seen them spring up + one after another, at every advance, to bar his way. + + Through this system the dynamo will eventually become a + thing of the past, and electric lighting will be conducted by a + polar negative disc run by a vibratory circuit of sympathetic + polar attraction, "drawn direct from space," which Keely has + harnessed for commercial use after more then twenty years of + maligned and persistent effort such as the world has never known. + + Before attempting to set down any of the great truths of + sympathetic physics, it will be necessary for the scientific + reader to have some idea of Keely's views of "Nature's + sympathetic flows." Although he has substantiated his theories by + demonstration to his own satisfaction and to the conviction of + distinguished men of science, electricians and to engineers, he + will welcome any refutation of them which shows that he is in + error, for Keely does not claim to be infallible, as do those who + sit in judgment upon him. + + To quote from his writings: + + "Physicists have been working in the wrong direction to lead + them to associate themselves with Nature's sympathetic + evolutions. It is not necessary to advance farther into the + unexplored region of these sympathetic flows than the ninths, to + become convinced that the one I denominate the dominant, is the + leader toward which the remaining thirds of the triune + combination (of triple sympathetic streams) co-ordinate, whether + it be the cerebellic, gravital, or magnetic. When we reach the + luminiferous track on the ninths, in the triple subdivision, we + have proof that the infinite stream, from that unexplored region + where all sympathetic streams emanate, is triune in its + character, having the dominant as the sympathetic leader, to + which the remainder of the celestial thirds are subservient; the + cerebellic being the dominant, and the triplets, (gravital, + electric, and magnetic) following in its train. + + "The magnetic cannot lead the electric, nor the electric the + gravital, nor the gravital the magnetic. All are subservient to + the dominant, as a train of cars is subservient to the locomotive + which pulls it along; the only difference between the two is that + one is sympathetic, the other mechanical. Though this is a crude + illustration, it conveys a great truth in sympathetic philosophy. + All sympathetic flows have this triune condition associated with + them, the same as the molecular, atomic and etheric aggregations + of all forms of visible matter: the compound etheric, or + dominant, being the leader and yet one of the constituents of the + molecule itself. The dominant we may call the etheric portion of + the molecule; the harmonic, the atomic; and the enharmonic, the + molecule itself. The dominant part of the triune combination of + the sympathetic streams are the leaders, toward which all co- + ordinate to make up the sympathetic envelope of the earth; ( the + cerebral being the high dominant, or compound etheric, the + luminiferous proper.) + + "All diversion from the polar terrestrial envelope are but + nodal outreaches, induced by the proper order of sympathetic + vibration; not dissociations and associations of sympathy; but + operating on the same principle as the outflow, or nodal outreach + of the mental organism toward the physical, in its control over + it. The latent conditions are in a state of neutrality, as + regards action, until the exciter - mental outreach - is brought + into sympathetic play. If we dissociate the sympathetic mental + from the latent physical, it would be equivalent to beheading it; + consequently, the physical would cease to exist as a thing of + life; but the dominant - the cerebral - would remain in its + unchanged form, viz., the high etheric. + + "The system of inducing differential harmonies by compound + thirds is one that the world of science has never recognized; + simply because the struggles of physicists, combating with the + solution of the conditions governing the fourth order of matter, + have been in a direction antagonistic to the right one. By this + I mean that physicists reject the true conditions of the + dissociation of matter; recognizing and holding fast to an + adverse law; debarring the subdivision of the atom, and + ridiculing the existence of latent force in intermolecular space. + I have substantiated the triple formation of the molecule by the + differential triple reply that it gives when excited by compound + concordant impulses, and by the accelerated range of motion which + it assumes under intensified vibration, even to dissociation from + its fellows; proving this dissociation by the increased amount of + latent energy evolved, progressively." + + At an early period of Keely's researches, on the lines + suggested by the distinguished professor of the Bonn University, + Dr. Beriz, Viz., of the conditions governing the operation in + nature of the unknown energy he was dealing with, Keely wrote to + a friend: + + "It appears, in my researching experiments, quite evident to + me, that under different orders of progressive vibration, when + the sixth order is reached on the positive, a condition presents + itself in an accompanying agent that adds to the etheric flow a + very peculiar action. I call this third agent its sympathetic + attendant. + + "In the physical organism, the circulatory forces have their + attendants in the form of nerves, which are the sensatory + telegraphs to all parts of the human system. I have reason to + believe that under the seventh subdivision of matter a condition + is reached where perfect assimilation takes place between these + two sympathetics, thus showing the luminiferous track. It is this + assimilation or association that induces the luminosity, I am + quite certain; but in this unition there is nothing approaching + corpuscular friction, which in itself is antagonistic to + luminosity. + + "Consequently the unition of these sympathetic thirds must + take place by gravital assimilation, which is the highest of + sympathetic union. This is the compound etheric flow, or soul of + matter. The sympathetic attendant must be the odylic; or + comparatively speaking, its nerve force. Reichenbach exercises a + wonderfully far-seeing judgment in his argument on this, the + highest preponderable. + + "If I am able, with the instrument I am now constructing, to + demonstrate these assertions as truths, it will amply repay the + researcher of a lifetime. The conditions governing the nerve- + force of the planetary system may then be unraveled by future + research. This seems to be too immense an aim to be associated + with human thought. + + "I hope I am the `compound lunatic' that the scientific + world calls me, to whom it is given to work out the demonstration + of these `hidden things of God' which hitherto have seemed to be + past finding out. They may call me `Cagliostro', `Impostor,' + "Charlatan," or anything that pleases them; I shall glory in + these names, if I can reach the solution of this vast problem + that I am now at work upon. I thank God the time is near at + philosophy in showing up the conditions governing the sympathetic + field." + + "I hope I am the `compound lunatic' that the scientific + world calls me, to whom it is given to work out the demonstration + of these `hidden things of God' which hitherto have seemed to be + past finding out. They may call me `Cagliostro', `Impostor,' + "Charlatan,' or anything that pleased them; I shall glory in + these names, if I can reach the solution of this vast problem + that I am now at work upon. I thank God the time is near at hand + when I will be able to prove how faithfully accurate is the new + philosophy in showing up the conditions governing the sympathetic + field." + + By progressive research Keely has, since that time, attained + such perfection in his method of work that the vitalizing of + instruments, which formerly took him three day, is now + accomplished in fifteen minutes, using hydrogen in increasing + molecular oscillation to the point where the power can be + registered. Up to a certain state he was able to employ the + ether; but in this process it would be as impossible, as it is to + take the flow of thought in one's hands and by physical effort + tie it in a knot. Having, in these researches, succeeded in + wresting form Nature the conditions of planetary suspension, he + is now well on his way toward gaining the closely guarded secret + of the firefly. All that Nature dose with Nature's forces man + will be able to do when he has wrung from her grasp, one by one, + the keys that she still clenches in her hands; for it is Nature + herself, not Science, which has given to the world, in this + system of aerial navigation, "the crowning achievement of a + century of progress." + + Keely has never made but one experiment in dissociation the + hydrogen of the chemist. After a persistent effort of over seven + weeks' duration, in his attempt to confine it and hold it under + assimilation with one-third its volume of disintegrated air, he + succeeded in obtaining a rather indefinite result, lasting only + about ninety seconds. The luminosity shown was the only evidence + he had of its dissociation, but in his process of disintegration + of water, he never fails to obtain proof of the triple + subdivision of hydrogen - molecular, atomic and inter-atomic. + + Each disc of the polar and depolar groupings in the + propeller of the airship contains seven pints of hydrogen. In + preparing these discs, the hydrogen is submitted to a triple + order of vibration. The corpuscular envelopes of the molecules + are not enlarged in volume, under their receptive condition, but + their velocity of rotation is increased. While under the + operation of this transmittive vibration their vortex action is + made visible. + + Under date of November 2, 1891, Keely wrote of one of his + researching instruments which he was then inventing, to overcome + nodal interference in sympathetic negative outreach: "This + instrument combines the disintegrator and the positive-negative- + indicator in one. It will be but an intermediate, as between the + sympathetic negative transmitter and the depolarizer. At present, + I am working like a man suspended between heaven and earth, + trying to reach one without leaving the other." + + This is one of Keely's many apt figures of speech, which + convey, as no other words could, what his position has been in + the past. The wonderful instrument (the sympathetic harness) + which he has now completed to connect the polar flow with the + propeller of the airship, substantiates what only two years ago + was purely theoretical in Keely's system of sympathetic vibratory + physics; and figuratively speaking, proves that without leaving + earth he has laid hold of the very battlements of celestial + regions, thus opening a pathway for men of science to reach the + solution of their most intricate problems. Often has Keely + expressed his regret that mechanical physicists have not had + suitable instruments for their researches, saying that they would + long since have discovered their errors had they been in + possession of proper instruments for acoustic research. It was + some photographs of his instruments which led the late Henri + Hertz, after examining them, to say in 1889: + + "No man who is working on these lines, with such + instruments, is a fraud. I cannot help him; no one can help him; + he must work out his system alone, and when it is completed, we + can pursue our researches on the same line. I thought Keely was + working, as I am, with an electrical machine and wires. I had no + idea of these wonderful instruments. + + The machine used by Keely, from 1872 to 1882, for + disintegrating water, weighed several tons. Since that time, in + his work of evolution, he has made such advances that the one he + new uses is no larger the wheel of a perambulator (old term for + baby carriage). + + In Keely's process of disintegrating water, the proportion + of oxygen to hydrogen is such as to favor the bringing about, + under a certain order of triple vibration, the antagonistic + differentiation necessary to produce molecular and atomic + corpuscular dissociation. When this dissociation takes place, the + hydrogen becomes highly rotating, acting like a molecular capsule + with the oxygen enclosed. While under this condition when + confined in a tube, they remain dissociated until the peripheral + rotation of the hydrogen is interfered with. + + One of the foundation stones of vibratory physics is that + "no differentiation can exist in the workings of the pure law of + harmony." If this is correct, these so-called elements have a + triple basic, as vibratory physics teaches, for the system that + represents harmony in one sense must represent it in all, or + everything would be brought in to "chaotic confusion." Therefore, + as Keely surmised, long before he was able to prove it to his own + satisfaction, hydrogen must, under the conditions of this law, be + composed of three elements; and these three elements in turn must + each have a triple formation, and go on indefinitely, until + verged into the infinite inter-luminous. + + The correctness of these hypotheses has been proved by the + varying degrees of energy evolved in progressive disintegration + from the molecular to the introductory etheric. Keely writes; + + "The nearer the approach to the neutral centres, when the + dissociation takes place, the greater is the latent force + evolved. In molecular dissociation the instrument is set on the + thirds, meeting with a rotating resistance of five thousand + pounds per square inch, without any interference with the inter- + molecular position. The instrument is set on the sixths, with + the inter-molecular position. The instrument is set on the + sixths, to liberate inter-molecular latent force, which, when + liberated, is equal to a resistance of ten thousand pounds. To + reach the atomic centres, the instrument is set on the ninths + dominant, the sixths harmonic, and the thirds enharmonic, having + the transmittive chord B associated with each. At this setting + the corpuscular percussion exceeds twenty-five thousands pounds + per square inch. The subservience of the co-ordinate sympathy is + shown in the result by a pressure exceeding fifteen thousand + pounds, reaching, in this subdivision, almost as near the + neutrals as instruments can carry us. The atomic and inter- + atomic settings constitute the introductory conditions governing + the nodal outreach as toward the etheric. Under this condition + of sympathetic vibration an evolution of energy is registered for + exceedingly any heretofore liberated. The region of the + inaudible is reached - the introductory etheric and the first + features of the invisible latent force existing in corpuscular + embrace have been handled. + + "We must put our shoes from off our feet - i.e., lay aside + our earthly bodies - before we can go further. But this is far + enough to prove that nothing is lost, and that, when this + repellent order of things is brought about, and so-called + elements are separated, these elements yield up, in their + molecular separation, what may be called their souls, or more + progressive elements. + + "We have gone far enough to find that there is no such thing + as death; that matter cannot die, any more than the substance or + spiritual essence which controls it can die. The word death is a + misnomer, for there is only a change of base in the molecular + visible, and it is the same with the sympathetic invisible, for + celestial radiation claims her can back again to its realm of + spiritual existence." + + 'My own dim life should teach me this, + That life shall live for evermore; + Else earth is darkness at the core, + And dust and ashes all that is.' + + "It is through the action of nature's sympathetic forces + that planets are born and their volume of matter augmented. If + the sympathetic, negative polar stream were cut off from the + earth, its molecular mass would become independent, and would + float away into space as would a soap bubble filled with warm + air. The same conditions of governing rule exist in the + planetary masses as between the mental and physical forces in our + organism; the organism representing the earth, and its link with + the cerebral centres the connection with the infinite mind. In + other words, the latent energy existing in the neutral depths of + matter, visible or invisible, remains eternally subservient and + unchangeably linked to the eternal mind. True science is + bastardized by intimating that the life in matter can be + destroyed by any intensity of thermal negation (frigidity). Can + finite man make use of an infinite element to neutralize + infinity? Thermal negation causes molecular oscillation to + diminish, or even seem to cease, but the results brought about + from this superficial appearance of matter coming to rest are + that the latent energy existing in the molecular zone is + transferred to the inter-molecular, increasing the oscillations + of the inter-molecular in the same ratio that the molecular is + diminished. All the art that man can employ to induce the same + effect on the inter-molecular zone ends here. Granting, however, + that it were possible, what would ensue? + + "A disintegration, of the most intense explosive character, + of the volume experimented upon, destroying the apparatus and its + surroundings. But no artifice of the physicist could ever + produce such conditions. In the disintegration of water by + vibratory changes of atmospheric base (a triple order of + sympathetic vibration, molecular, inter-molecular, and atomic + simultaneously projected) the inter-molecular depths only are + interfered with, the result being that latent energy is + liberated, showing a pressure of 2,000 atmospheres (14.7 PSI = 1 + atmosphere at sea level, so that 2000 * 14.7 = 29,400 + PSI...VANGARD), when barometric conditions are favorable. + + "The physical organism (through the medium of celestial + radiation) is a trinity, both in regard to its visible form and + the invisible sympathetic streams which govern it, in its + individual and combined movements. The visible includes the + molecular, the atomic and inter-atomic in combination; while the + invisible, or spiritual, includes the etheric, inter-etheric and + luminous in combination, each of which is essential to the proper + completion of the combined action, comprising as it does every + minute law governing the celestial and terrestrial universe. + + "Life begets life; the celestial life begets the terrestrial + life; the God-Life begets the Man-Life. Celestial radiation is + the pure soul of all matter, both earthy and gaseous. Thus we + are linked in all our environments to the divine, our cerebral + aggregations being the highest medium whereby celestial + sympathetic reflection associates with our organisms, and is our + only source of knowledge of ourselves. We have, with our mental + and physical forces, a duality of action which, when combined + with the celestial, makes up the triplet or trinity. With the + mental, the superficial visible, or outward sight; with the + inward, or spiritual invisible, we have the spiritual link + connecting mind and matter, the order of transfer being: + + "First - Celestial radiation, or etheric. + "Second - Mental impregnation, or inter-atomic. + "Third - Physical movements, or inter-molecular. + + "Or again: + + "Ninths - Sympathetic transfer from the celestial + luminous. + "Sixths - Sympathetic impregnation of matter. + "Thirds - Physical movements." + + Thus the following question is answered, asked by Oliver + Lodge, (even though, with the professor's knowledge, the answer + seems to be but "arrant gibberish" to him): + + "By what means if force exerted, and what definitely is + force? Here is something not provided for in the orthodox scheme + of physics. Modern physics is not complete, and a line of + possible advance lies in this direction." + + Vibratory physics has here reached the boundary line + dividing the infinite from the finite, the link between mind and + matter. Here we must pause; but it has taught us that it is only + in the supreme conditions of celestial reflection or sympathetic + transfer that we live, move, and have our being; through which + every thought, or flow of the mental, actuates the physical + organism, on the same order that an illuminated centre radiates + and lights up the surroundings. + + Mr. J. Townshend, in his paper "The Planet Venus," read at + Leeds, in April, asks: + + "Are hydrogen, nitrogen, helium, etc., really elemental + substances, or are they evolved from ether? If so, what is + ether? Whence the impulse which operates upon it, and what is + its nature? Thus we turn from effect to cause in search of some + first principle upon which the mind can rest. But ere this the + light of science has failed us, for who by (scientific) searching + can find out God?" + + Sympathetic vibratory or spiritual physics answers these + questions, and, as has been said, promises to burst upon the + searchers after truth as the one mighty and complete revelation + of some of the mysteries of creation. + + "Science was faith once; faith were science now + Would she but lay her bow and arrow by + And arm her with the weapons of her time." + + "And God breathed into men the breath of life," celestial + radiation, "and man became a living soul." + + The cause of the effect, the source or fountain-head of all + matter, is the celestial Mind - Deity, from whom all power + emanates, and whose Laws of Sympathetic Association reign over + and control all matter and all substance. Spirit is substance, + as Spinoza taught: "The universe is one. There is no + supernatural; all is related, cause and sequence." + + "Like fire, which is a spiritual order of vibration, spirit + is latent in all matter. One might as well try to operate a + steam-engine without its boiler as to give motion to matter + against the conditions imposed by nature, or to propose a new + method of controlling the action of our physical organisms (other + than through the sympathetic transfer of our mental forces) as an + improvement on the one instituted by the Almighty. + + "Although there is as such difference in the molecular + construction of spirit and matter as there is between hydrogen + and forged steel, yet the flow of spiritual radiation, from the + fountain-head of force, operates under the one unvarying law with + both; for "nature never changes her processes," and she cannot be + forced into any position which is antagonistic to her sympathetic + law of action; such, for instance, as it would be were a gas to + be solidified. The disintegration of water by heat is only a low + order of crude molecular dissociation, visible in its production + of steam; but the dissociation of hydrogen and oxygen cannot be + made visible. Physicists are misled by visible effects. Nature, + by her process of sympathetic vibration (an order approaching the + luminiferous) could take up the atmosphere that encircles our + globe, and yet solid matter would not even then be produced. By + another order of progressive sympathetic vibration, associated + with the high luminous, the molecular condition of the atmosphere + so taken up would not represent a cherry-stone in volume." + + Nothing exists but substance and its modes of motion, says + Spinoza; thus teaching that spirit is substance. "Soul is the + body or organ of the mind, and as such they are inseparable + forever. Mind and soul are one, soul and body are two. Soul can + never be without mind, body can. As in the mortal life, so in + the immortal life, mind cannot be or act without a body. + Sympathetic physics teaches that the luminiferous ether, a + compound inter-etheric element, celestial mind force, is the + substance of which everything is visible is composed, and that + this great sympathetic protoplastic element is life itself. + + "Consequently, our physical organisms are composed of this + element; the focalizing or controlling media to the physical + having its seat in the cerebral convolutions from which + sympathetic radiation emanates. This sympathetic outreach is + mind-flow proper, or will-force; sympathetic polarization to + produce action, sympathetic depolarization to neutralize it. + Polar and depolar differentiation resulting in motion. This + element sympathetically permeates all forms and conditions of + matter, having for its attendants gravity, electricity, and + magnetism, the triple conditions borne in itself. From this + 'soul of matter' all forms of motion receive their introductory + impulses. The physicists of the present age ignore the + sympathetic conditions that are associated with the governing + force of the cerebral and the muscular organism. The evolution + of a volition, the infinite exciter, arouses the latent energy of + the physical organism to do its work; differential orders of + brain-force acting against each other under dual conditions. If + there were no latent energy, to arouse sympathetically, there + would be no action in the physical frame, as all force is will- + force. + + Though alternate active energy could be evolved in a cubic + inch of steel, by the proper sympathetic exciter, to do the work + of a horse, by its sympathetic association with the polar force + in alternate polarization and depolarization. This is the power + that I am now getting under control to do commercial work. In + other words, I am making a sympathetic harness for the polar + terrestrial force." KEELY, 1892. + + In 1893, Keely, in reply to the question, "What do + you include in the polar force?" answered, "Magnetism, + electricity, and gravital sympathy; each stream of force composed + of three currents which make up the governing conditions of the + controlling medium of the universe. The ninths which I am now + endeavoring to graduate to a sympathetic mechanical combination + will, if I succeed, close my researches in sympathetic physics, + and complete my system." Within the year the announcement was + made that Keely had completed this graduation, with entire + mechanical success, "hooking his machinery on to the machinery of + nature." In thus having realized the ambition of his life, he + takes no credit to himself, saying that physicists would long + since have discovered all that he has discovered if they had been + in possession of the proper researching instruments, and that the + theories they have advanced show that they are misled by the + imperfections of their instruments. He has always maintained + that "it is only when science holds the rein of the polar + negative harness that commercial success will follow, and not one + hour before." But science, to whom the reins were offered in + 1884, refused to take them, fortunately, for mechanical physics + could have rendered Keely no assistance in unraveling the + mysteries of sympathetic physics. + + Buckle, in his address, "The Influence of Woman on the + Progress of Knowledge," discloses the foundation stone of + sympathetic physics in these words; "The laws of nature have + their sole seat, origin, and function, in the human mind. Not + one single discovery has ever been made which has been connected + with the laws of the mind that made it. Until this connection is + ascertained, our knowledge has no sure basis." + + As Dr. Gerard surmises, in his book on "Nervous Force," Keely + is "a plagiarist in cerebral dynamics." The instrument that he + calls the sympathetic transmitter is the brain of the propeller, + and at last we have a discovery which gives a sure basis for + knowledge; a discovery made by one who lays no claims to + learning, for nature has taught him, in her works, all that he + knows. + + The Propeller Described + + The space which the propeller of the airship occupies in + Keely's laboratory comes within a radius of six feet square. A + small space for so powerful a medium - distributing over one + thousand horsepower, as tested by experiment. It consists of + more than two thousand pieces, the principal parts of which are: + + 1) Positive graduating Chladna; guiding by polar action + toward the North and reversing by depolar action. + + 2) Sympathetic polar negative transmitter; for operating and + controlling the action of the machinery in producing polar and + depolar power: liberating the latent sympathetic power in twenty- + seven sensitized discs. + + 3) Polar and depolar intermittent accumulator; carrying eight + focalizing discs for receiving and distributing the sympathetic + polar negative flow. This device takes the energy + sympathetically from the polar negative stream on the same order + that a dynamo registers electricity from the earth to be + distributed and redistributed; running the machine + sympathetically. + + 4) Positive ring suspended on a small shaft with three + points, the object of which is to preserve the integrity of the + neutral centre of the machine. + + 5) Two resonating drums; one positive, one negative, which + multiple the intensity of the sympathetic flow. + + 6) Twenty-seven depolar triple groupings, nine in each + grouping, consisting of three vitalized discs with resonators. + These reply sympathetically to polar and depolar action. + + 7) Large polar ring. This ring is associated with the + central resonators by nine resonating polar discs placed at equal + distances. This is the medium for distributing the polar flow. + + 8) Small negative ring, which is the governor of the + propeller, associated with a polar bar that oscillates from the + polar field to the depolar field, somewhat on the order of a + magnetic needle, governing the action of the machine to any given + number of revolutions. The sympathetic rotation that exists in + the resonating centre of this ring holds the neutral centre in + subservience to celestial radiation, whereby a certain order of + sympathetic disturbances gives the sympathetic radiation the + requisite power to draw it to itself, accomplishing what is + called atmospheric suspension on the same principle as that of + sympathetic suspension. + + The condition of the mechanical requirements necessary to + conduct successfully the line of research which Keely has been + pursuing will be properly appreciated, now that he is able to + demonstrate the simplicity and beauty of his system, under + perfect control for commercial use. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + + We of Vangard Sciences hope you have found this document of interest. + The concepts described might appear strange due to the nature of the + words used. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2877.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2877.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5a995c16 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2877.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,415 @@ + +SUBJECT: MYSTERY AIRSHIP SIGHTINGS IN THE LATE 1800's FILE: UFO2877 + + + + + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + March 3, 1990 + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + History of the Mystery Airship Sightings + in the late 1800's + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + + One of the mysteries involving the work of John W. Keely involves + his Airship which was developed during the period of 1888 to 1893. + + Keely flew his airship for the first time in 1893. We have a + drawing of the ship and it is very compact and has no hull. + + A reporter inspecting the ship leaves us this record : + + "The space which the propeller of the airship occupies in + Keely's Laboratory comes within a radius of six feet square. + A small space for so powerful a medium - distributing over + 1000 horsepower, as tested by experiment. It consists of + over 2000 pieces and weighed in excess of 1000 pounds." + + A small stool was placed on the unit so that it faced a keyboard. + Attached to the keyboard were many tuned resonation plates and + vibratory mechanisms. Mr. Keely said that when the plates were + polarized with "negative attraction" the airship would rise and + float above the ground. + + Keely could make the airship accelerate to any desired speed by + damping out certain notes on the keyboard. + + The Keely Airship was successfully demonstrated to the U.S. War + Department in 1896. The demonstration took place in an open field + where Keely brought the airship from zero to 500 MPH within + seconds. + + Keely was sitting on the stool and before the keyboard. There was + nothing to shield him from the movement of the ship yet he seemed + to suffer absolutely no acceleration effects. + + The War Department was impressed, yet stated they could see no use + for such a complex device. + + Later versions might have added a hull and changed the size to + accomodate a payload. + + Note also that the Airship Sightings began in 1897, one year after + Keely's War Department demonstration. + + It is quite possible that a person or group might have financed + further improvements on the Keely Airship technology. + + We cannot fail to notice the April dates on the following + sightings, especially since the first sighting came on April 2nd, + one day after April Fool's day. + + Chicago Record.......Friday, April 2, 1897 + + See Great Airship + + Kansas Missouri, Missouri people excited.....mystical black object + casting before it red light startled whole city for the last two + weeks! + + At last descended...ten-thousand people swear they have no + hallucinations! Scoffers and disbelievers claim the people have + been seeing the planet Venus or the Evening Star, even though + according to the almanac this planet should have set below the + horizon at least an hour before! + + Object appeared very swiftly, then appeared to stop and hover over + the city for ten minutes at a time, then after flashing its green- + blue and white lights, shot upwards into space....light gradually + twinkling away and looking like a bright star. + + Time : 8:15 PM + + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Everest, Kansas has sighted a strange airship. + + Competent reporters state that this must be the airship that was + built in Oakland, California and which broke away at launching + time...this giant airship hovered one half hour at a time and + descended at regular intervals very close to the Earth. + + A giant searchlight flooded the whole city with light from this + aerial monster which with the velocity of an eagle darted up and + away. + + Power source must have been attached to the light for it dimmed as + the ship went up and away. One observer states that there seemed + to be a basket or car beneath a great dark object thought to be a + gas bag overhead...car was shaped like a canoe and had four wings, + two on each side, fore and aft...light was greenish or blue + against the light of a locomotive in the rail yard that was + yellowish. Colored lights seemed to be all around the car." + + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Chicago Record, April 3, 1897 + + Flying Machine Now in Michigan! + + People of Galesburg saw a brilliant white light approach from + SW...object appeared large and black with a crackling, sharp + sound. It hovered close to the Earth. Reporters state that they + heard HUMAN VOICES from aloft...from the airship! + + When the ship went off, it seemed to be tipped with flame. (Local + comment was that the airship had caught fire!) + + Time : 10:00 PM + + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Chicago Record, April 6, 1897 + + Airship Now Into Illinois + + Seen first at 8:00 PM in NW....large red light. Suggestions of + balloon are refuted because airship flew at tremendous speed INTO + A HIGH WIND! + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Chicago Record, April 7, 1897 + + Airship seen many times last few weeks. Large numbers of people + first hand witnesses. One time, a motorman of a trolley actually + stopped his vehicle so he and passengers could look at the + wonderful sight...just ahead of his trolley, the ship seemed about + six-hundred feet up and about one-hundred feet long. + + The motorman, Mr. Newville, says it was ellipsoid with large + projections fore and aft. There was a bright headlight in front + and a red light in the rear." + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + From Hastings, Nebraska, came the report that the "airship" had + been seen in Grand Island, Oxford, York and Kearney. Scoffers + claimed these people had seen Venus, yet all the reporters were + people of substance and not given to reporting spurious stories. + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Chicago Record, April 9, 1897 + + Airship Seen in Iowa + + Between West Liberty and Cedar Rapids appeared a bright + light...giant airship...steel body. When leaving it appeared to + be a large star weaving about and stars do not weave around the + heavens! + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Chicago Record, April 10, 1987 + + Airship Sighted over Chicago and Evanston! + + People are tripping over themselves these days trying to get the + best look at this green and white-lighted giant airship that has + had the people all over the mid-west in a dither. + + Some people think the end of the world is near...Scientific minds + have explained the whole thing away by now. The mystery will + surely be cleared up in the next few days. Mr. Carr, an aeronaut, + has built an experimental balloon and is financed by a New York + theatrical wig manufacturing company...Mr. Carr states his machine + works marvelously, but CANNOT GO AGAINST THE WIND...power is + storage battery with propeller! + + Professor Hough of Northwestern University and head astronomer of + the observatory stated when asked to train his telescope on the + object : 'I am busy with sights on Jupiter and it would be too + troublesome to change to look at this new thing.' The next day, + Hough said: 'The thousands of people that are reporting this so- + called strange airship are in reality looking at Alpha Orionis in + the Constellation Orion!" + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Chicago Record, April 12, 1897 + + Giant Airship Continues Over Chicago and Environs! + + People all over the city are in an uproar, and while everyone is + viewing this grand sight on the south side, two amateur + photographers who are news dealers in Rogers Park, looked out and + saw the airship. + + Their photo shows the north Western Railway station and above it + the reported airship! The photographers are Walter McCann and + G.A. Overocker. This airship was seen to come in over the lake + and traverse the whole city for several days." + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + The same report with an Omaha date line of April 11th says : + "A gentleman brags he has mystery airship problem solved. He + is an inventor and desires that he be allowed thirty-five + acres to demonstrate his airship for the Trans-Mississippi + Exposition. The gentleman didn't sign his name, but the + reporter hopes the dilemma will be settled by his promises." + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + The same report again, with a Fort Dodge, Iowa date line of April + 11th says: + "Old German residents say that this very same type of airship + came over Germany THIRTY YEARS before and the people were + scared to death...said the devil's army was approaching and + these were his vehicles." + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + The same report again, with a Milwaukee, Wisconsin date line of + April 11th says: + "The residents of Milwaukee cannot be talked out of what they + are seeing...thousands report the authenticity of a giant, + beautiful airship with colored lights...the police records + are full of the story for they have been called to answer + what it is!" + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Chicago Record, April 13, 1897 + + Airship Called a Hoax! + + Several notable citizens are known to have caused airship + scene...remains of paper and wood device in wreckage in their + yard.' (No name given of the 'notables') + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + The above mentioned device was supposed to have been in the + wreckage, but another column in the same paper said: + "Airship seen in Rock Island, Illinois and Elkhart, Illinois!" + How could it have been seen if it had been wrecked? + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Chicago Tribune, April 12, 1897 + + "One chap knows all about the airship. He says: 'These thousands + of people didn't see a steel hull because this is the airship my + friend built in California and is on its way here to Chicago. + Although, I must say, he sure has made good time for he isn't due + until NEXT WEEK and the hull is PAPER, not steel. My friend, O. + Chanute is on board too and I will introduce all of you to him + when he arrives!" + The man who spoke the above was Secretary of the Chicago + Aironautical Society, Max L. Harmar. + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + The same strange sightings were made at Sisterville, Virginia. + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + In 1897 and other years, there were also amazing observances in + Texas. + + An excerpt from the book "Genesis" published by Dell and written + by W. A. Harbinson, copyright 1982 gives more information on the + sightings from the late 1800's: + + "The first major UFO flap was in 1896 - about November of that + year - and continued until May 1897. This was five years + BEFORE the Wright brothers experiments, but there were, by + this time, various airship designs on the drawing boards or + in the Patent Office. + + On August 11, 1896, patent number 565805 was given to Charles + Abbot Smith of San Francisco for an airship he intended + having ready by the following year. Another patent, number + 580941, was issued to Henry Heintz of Elkton, South Dakota, + on April 20, 1897. However, while many UFO's sighted were + shaped roughly like the patent designs, there is no record of + either airship having been built." + + "At that time the general belief was that aerial navigation + would be solved through an airship rather than a heavier- + than-air flying machine - so most of the eariler designs + looked like dirigibles with a passenger car on the bottom. + + "What stands out in the 1896 and 1897 sightings is that the + UFO's were MOSTLY CIGAR-SHAPED, that they frequently landed, + to talk to the witnesses, usually asking for WATER FOR THEIR + MACHINES. + + "The most intriguing of the numerous contact stories involved + a man who called himself Wilson. The first incident occurred + in Beaumont, Texas on April 19, 1897, when J. B. Ligon, the + local agent for Magnolia Brewery, and his son Charles noticed + lights in the Johnson pasture a few hundred yards away and + went to investigate. + + "They came upon two men standing beside a large, dark object + which neither of the witnesses could see clearly. One of + these men asked Ligon for a bucket of water, Ligon let these + men have it, and then the man gave his name as Mr. Wilson. + + "He then told Ligon that he and his friends were travelling in + a flying machine, that they had taken a trip 'out of the + gulf', and they were returning to the 'quiet Iowa town' where + the airship AND FOUR OTHERS LIKE IT had been constructed. + + "When asked, Wilson explained that ELECTRICITY POWERED THE + PROPELLERS AND WINGS OF THE AIRSHIP, then he and his friends + got into the airship and Ligon watched it ascending. + + "The next day, April 20, Sheriff H. W. Baylor of Uvalde, also + in Texas, went to investigate a strange light and voices in + back of his house. He encountered an airship and three men + -and one of the men gave his name as Wilson, from Goshen, New + York. + + "Wilson then inquired about one C. C. Akers, former sheriff of + Zavalia County, saying that he had met him in Fort Worth in + 1877 and now wanted to see him again. Sheriff Baylor, + surprised, replied that Captain Akers was now at Eagle Pass, + and Wilson, reportedly disappointed, asked to be remembered + to him the next time Sheriff Baylor visited him. + + "Baylor reported that the men from the airship wanted water + and that Wilson requested that their visit BE KEPT SECRET + FROM THE TOWNSPEOPLE. Then he and the other men climbed back + into the airship and, quote, "its great wings and fans were + set in motion and it sped away northward in the direction of + San Angelo.' The county clerk also saw the airship as it left + the area. + + "Two days later, in Josserand, Texas, a whirring sound + awakened farmer Frank Nichols, who looked out of his window + and saw 'brilliant lights streaming from a ponderous vessel + of strange proportions' in his cornfield. Nichols went + outside to investigate, but before he reached the object, two + men walked up to him and asked if they could have water from + the well. + + "Nichols agreed to this - as farmers in those days usually did + - and the men then invited him to visit the airship where he + noticed that there were six or eight crew members. One of + these men told him that the ship's motive power was 'HIGHLY + CONDENSED ELECTRICITY' and that it was ONE OF FIVE THAT HAD + BEEN CONSTRUCTED in 'a small town in Iowa' with the backing + of a large stock company IN NEW YORK (close to Philadelphia + where Keely had his laboratory!!....Vangard). + + "The next day, on April 23, witnesses described by the HOUSTON + POST as 'two responsible men' reported that an airship had + descended where they lived in Kountze, Texas, and that two of + the occupants had given their names as Wilson and Jackson. + + "Four days after this incident, on April 27, the GALVESTON + DAILY NEWS printed a letter from C. C. Akers, who claimed + that he had indeed known a man in Fort Worth named Wilson, + that Wilson was from New York, that he was in his middle + twenties, and that he was 'OF A MECHANICAL TURN OF MIND AND + WAS THEN WORKING ON AERIAL NAVIGATION AND SOMETHING THAT + WOULD ASTONISH THE WORLD.' + + "Finally, early in the evening of April 30, in Deadwood, + Texas, a farmer named H. C. Lagrone heard his horses bucking + as if in stampede. Going outside, he saw a bright white + light circling around the fields nearby and illuminating the + entire area before descending and landing in one of the + fields. + + "Walking to the landing spot, Lagrone found a crew of five + men, three of whom talked to him while the others collected + water in rubber bags. The man informed Lagrone that their + ship was ONE OF FIVE that had been flying around the country + recently, that theirs was in fact the SAME ONE that had + landed in Beaumont a few days before, that all the ships had + been constructed in an interior town in Illinois -which + borders Iowa -and that they were reluctant to say anything + else because they had NOT YET TAKEN OUT ANY PATENTS. By May + of that same year, the sightings ended...." + + + (Don't forget to include the Aurora Hoax perpertrated by a + reporter for a local (Ft. Worth) newspaper at that same time) + + **************************************************** + + Notes from Vangard... + + We also have heard of a group which existed in California during + this period. They were said to have some form of flying machine, + not based on lighter-than-air technology. The flying machine they + built was supposed to have been taken out for an "unauthorized" + joy ride by a member of the group and crashed. Nothing is known + after this point. + + To our knowledge, there is no record of the nature of propulsion + or lift for the groups' flying machine. + + As a final note, a friend tells us that in the 60's, he was + visiting the headquarters of an old organization in Chicago. + + While wandering through the building, he chanced upon a vault door + which was partially open. Peeking inside, he saw what he believes + to be the original Keely Airship as shown in the picture we have. + + An officer of the organization came in, closed the vault door and + ushered him out of the area. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + + We are currently working on scanning a picture file of the Keely + Airship to be included in our future Images section. + + The equipment for such projects takes money which comes from + personal funds, so it might be a while before we can do this. It + would surely be nice if we could have such equipment to spread + this stuff around more easily. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + + Thanks for your support and contributions. We hope you have found + this file of interest... + + Jerry W. Decker, Ron Barker and Chuck Henderson + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2878.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2878.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0751f1d6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2878.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ + +SUBJECT: NEW FREE ENERGY SOURCES FILE: UFO2878 + + + + + + Taken from KeelyNet BBS + Sponsored by Vangard Sciences + PO BOX 1031 + Mesquite, TX 75150 + + March 14, 1990 + + + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + Portions of this document is graciously provided by + Dan A. Davidson + from his book "A Breakthrough to New Free Energy Sources". + + We of VANGARD SCIENCES wish to publicly thank Dan for his + willingness to share the result of his researches on John Keely. + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + John W. Keely, discoverer of Sympathetic Vibratory Physics, found + a means of negating the effect of gravity as well as developing a + form of propulsion. + + From 1888 to 1893, Keely worked on developing his system of + "Aerial Navigation". The first successful test was in 1893 which + led the way to the construction of an aerial craft. + + In 1896, Mr. Keely had so perfected his system that he arranged to + give a demonstration of the aerial craft to the United States War + Department. In attendance at the demonstration were a number of + invited members of the press. + + Descriptions of the craft state that it was a circular platform + roughly 6 feet in diameter. On this platform was mounted a small + stool set before a keyboard. + + The keyboard was attached to numerous tuned resonation plates and + vibratory mechanisms. + + Mr. Keely explained that these plates would cause the craft to + rise and float above the ground when subjected to a polarized + field which would generate a "negative attraction". + + When the effect was produced, the craft would come under the + influence of the "etheric polar current." + + The controlling mechanism consisted of a row of 100 vibratory + bars representing the enharmonic and diatonic scales. + + When half of the bars were damped the craft would move at 500 + miles per hour. + + If all the bars were damped, gravity would resume control and the + craft would settle to the earth. + + There were no moving parts in the ship's propelling mechanism. + + It was unaffected by weather and could rise above any storm. + + The instrument for guiding the airship was distinctly different + from the propelling feature. + + By damping out certain specific notes, Keely could cause the + airship to accelerate to any desired speed. + + The experiment was carried out in an open field with observers + from the War Department and the news media. + + The ship was said to have accelerated from 0 to 500 miles per hour + within a few seconds. + + Most astounding was the apparent total lack of acceleration + effects to Mr. Keely as he sat on the stool before the keyboard, + controlling the airship. + + Although, the government officials were impressed, they stated + they could see no use for such a complex device and so did not + pursue the matter further. + + (Remember, the Wright brothers did not demonstrate their airplane + at Kittyhawk, N.C., until December 17, 1903--7 years later!) + + ----------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2879.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2879.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a84e72f9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2879.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ + +SUBJECT: ANCIENT UFOs FILE: UFO2879 + + + +Sun 24 Jan 93 9:55 +By: Jim Sanders +To: All +Re: Ancient ufos +St: +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ + I would like to present this extract from "On Shores of Endless + Worlds" by Andrew Tomas for those that have not read it. + + "One of the Vedic hymns, dedicated to Varuna, intimates that + there had existed some sort of galactic police in Space: + + 'Whoever beyond the sky should think his way to wing, + He could not elude the grasp of Varuna, theking, + His agents descending from the skies glide all this + world around, + Their thousand eyes all-scanning sweep to Earth's + remotest bound.' + + Reading this verse, it would seem that the ancients were aware + of the same sort of reconnaissance as those of today's contro- + versial UFOs." page 121 + + Think about it! + + + + + + -=* Jim Sanders *=- + +=== + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2880.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2880.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..95a1e2ff --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2880.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ + +SUBJECT: SOMETHING STRANGE FOUND IN CHINA/TIBET CAVES FILE: UFO2880 + + + + + High in the mountains of BayanKara-Ula, on the boarders of China and +Tibet - a team of archeologists were conducting a very detailed routine +survey of a series of interlinked caves. + Their interests had been excited by the discovery of lines of neatly +arranged graves which contained the skeletons of what must have been a +strange race of human beings; strange because they had unnaturally spindly +bodies and large, overdeveloped heads. + At first, it had been thought that the caves had been the home of a +hitherto unkown species of ape. But as the leader of the team - the Chinese +archeologist, Professor Chi Pu Tei - pointed out, "Who ever heard of apes +burying each other?" + It was while studying the skeletons that one of the team stumbled on a +large, round stone disk, half buried in the dust on the floor of the cave. + The team gathered round the discovery, turning it this way and that. +It looked, absurdly, like a kind of 'Stone Age Gramophone record'. There was +a hole in the center and a fine, spiral groove radiated to the rim. + Closer inspection, however, showed that the groove was, in fact, a +continous spiralling line of closely written characters. + The object was a 'record' ... in more ways then one. Only nobody at the +time - the year was 1938 - possessed the key to its incredible message. The +disc was labeled and filed away among other finds in the area. Even those who +knew of its existence knew nothing of its meaning. + + Many experts tried to translate the hieroglyphs in the 20 years the disc +languished in Peking. They all failed. It was not until another professor - +Dr. Tsum Um Nui - broke the code and started to decipher the 'speaking +grooves' that the extraordinary implications of the disc were realized. +Realized, that is, only by only a select few. The outside world remained in +ignorance. For the professor's conclusions on the meaning of the disc were +so shattering that they were offically suppressed. The Peking Academy of +Pre-History forbade him to publish his findings. + Two years later, in 1965, the professor and four of his colleagues were +finally given permission to reveal their theory. It appeared under the long- +winded but intriguing title, "The Grooved Script concerning Space-ships which, +as recorded on the Discs, landed on Earth 12,000 years ago". + The 'records' - 716 of the grooved discs were later uncovered in the same +caves - told an astonishing story of a 'space probe' by the inhabitants of +another planet which came to grief in the Bayan-Kara-Ula mountain range. The +strange, spiral script told how the peaceful intentions of the 'aliens' had +been misunderstood and how many of them were hunted down and killed by members +of the Ham tribe, who lived in the neighboring caves. + + According to Tsum Um Nui, one of the lines of the hieroglyphs read, "The +Dropas came down from the clouds in their aircraft. Our men, women and +children hid in the caves ten times before sunrise. When at last they +understood the sign language of the Dropas, they realized that the newcomers +had peaceful intentions...". + Another section expressed 'regret' by the Ham tribe that the aliens' +spaceship had crash-landed in such a remote and inaccessible mountains and +that there had been no way to building a new one to enable Dropas to return +to their own planet. + In the years since the discovery of the first disc, archeologists and +anthropologists had learned more about the isolated Bayan-Kara-Ula area. +And much of the information seemed to corroborate the bizarre story recorded +on the discs. + Legend still preserved in the area spoke of small, gaunt, yellow faced +men who 'came from the clouds, long, long ago'. The men had huge, bulging +heads and puny bodies and were so ugly and repellent that they were hounded +down by local tribesmen on horseback. Strangely, the description of the +'invaders' tallied with the skeletons orginally discovered in the caves by +Professor Chi Pu Tei. + On the walls of the caves themselves archeologists had uncovered crude +pictures of the rising Sun, the Moon, unidentifiable stars and the Earth... +all joined together by lines of pea-sized dots. Along with the discs, the +cave drawings had been dated around 12,000 years old. + + The cave area was still inhabited by two semi-troglodyte tribes known as +the Hams and the Dropas, themselves extremely odd in appearance. The frail and +stunted tribesmen averaged only about five feet in height and were neither +typically Chinese nor Tibetan. "Their racial back-ground," said one expert, +"is a mystery." + But even with the publications of Professor Tsum Um Nui's amazing trans- +lation, the story of the 'space discs' was not over. Russian scientists asked +to see the discs and several were sent to Moscow for examination. + They were scraped free of rock particles which had stuck to them and +then put through chemical analysis. To the suprise of the scientists, they we +found to contain large amounts of cobalt and other metallic substances. That +was not all. When placed on a special turntable - according to Dr. Vyatcheslav +Saizev, who described the experiments in the Soviet magazine Sputnik - they +vibrated or 'hummed' in an unusual rhythm as though an electic charge was +passing through them. Or as one scientist suggested, "as if they formed some +part of an electrical circuit." At some time, they had clearly been exposed +to extraordinarily high votages. + Did the discs actually record an abortive space mission by alien astro- +nauts 12,000 years ago? Nearly all the leading 'space speculators' - theorists +like Erich von Daniken and Peter Kolosimo - believe so. For once one accepts +the proposition that aliens may have already have visted earth, then it +follows that some of their space-probes must have failed and the astronauts +must have been destroyed. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2881.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2881.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f3f70e96 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2881.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ + +SUBJECT: THE BIBLE & THE 4th DIMENSION FILE: UFO2881 + + + +Message number 5490 in "MUFON_PUBLIC" +Date: 03-07-93 08:12 +From: Michael Trinham +To: Mike Sinclair +Subj: The Bible & the 4th Dimension + +THE BIBLE AND THE FOURTH DIMENSION + +A BIT ABOUT THE AUTHOR + +As I sit to write I am for once stuck for words. Although I have never had +an encounter of the second, third or fourth kind, I have seen things in the +sky I could not explain. Mind you my area of expertise is not in ufology, it +is in the Bible and the Judaeo Christian religion and although a couple of +degrees might lend plausibility to what I might say in this regard, we all +know that degrees are merely a licence to make erroneous statements with a +ring of authority. Even experience is coming into question in this drug- +aware age, and age old truths are being challenged on every hand. the +question is, is there any one who really knows what is going on? + +Well I must say at the outset that I am convinced, for a number of reasons, +that the Bible is inerrant in its original condition. For those who will +read on from this point I must say it is wholly difficult in many cases to +really understand what it is saying. If it is inerrant in the original this +logically precludes any private interpretation (as the Bible claims for +itself in 2Peter 1:20). However it also means that if this premise is true +what is understandable is worth discovering. + +I begin this way because I want the reader to know where I am coming from at +the outset. It is not my purpose to convince, but to discover more. I have +drawn some conclusions as to what is going on in near space and in the fourth +dimension. I may be wrong. If I am I want to discover that too. If I am +right in some things it is most certain that I am not right in all respects. +As knowledge is empirical, it needs to be continually reviewed and updated, +honed and corrected. I therefore would value comments and directions as to +reading matter both in the BBS files and abroad. + +Although I have experienced first hand, many times, what scientists would +call the para-normal my experience of UFO phenomena is rather limited. I +remember seeing an object in the sky back in the era of Sputnik I , which +seemed to travel across the sky at a great altitude, probably in orbit, and +which travelled across the sky from the point it entered visibility until it +disappeared on the other side of the heavens in a straight line and in the +space of about one and a half seconds. You might say "Big deal!", but it +made a profound impression on my mind, and it was not until that choice +piece of television tape, taken from a satelight, was screened last year that +I saw anything resembling the speed and motion of what I saw years ago. +Since then I have had an open mind to the existence of other visible +"entities" sharing our space. + +I have read fairly widely on the subject and am familiar with the miriad +reports of experiences both bogus and valid. I am convinced that there is +enough evidence of a concrete nature to authenticate many of the reports +globally. + +WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS + +My real interest is of course how these things fit with what is predicted in +the Bible. As I said before, for many unstated reasons I am working from +the presupposition that the Bible is true, and that the trick is to +understand it. Before we can discuss the immediate topic we must establish, +at least in part, what the Bible has to say about the fourth dimension in +general. Paul the Apostle in his writings called it the "spiritual" and said +that spiritual things are spiritually discerned (1Corinthians 2:14). + +There are events recorded in the Bible, some clear and others not so clear +where this dimension of existence is demonstrated. John 20:19 records an +instance of the appearance of Jesus to the disciples in a locked room, He +appears and then leaves by the same means, what ever they were. Later in +Acts 8:39,40 we read of an incident where Philip, having completed his task +communicating to the Ethiopian eunuch in the dessert between Jerusalem and +Gaza, is immediately transported to Azotus many miles away. + +If spiritual things are spiritually discerned we need to obtain a certain +mind-set which leaps across the barrier of what previously we would call +credibility. We must begin to accept that there is a possibility of another +dimension which obeys rules which supersede those of the dimensions with +which we are more familiar. Time and space in that dimension do not have the +same relevance as they do in the physical world. The Bible says a thousand +years is as a day and a day as a thousand years to the Lord (2Peter 3:8). +Einstein began to break into this concept with the theory of relativity. Once +we grasp this possibility we can give credence to the idea that people may +under certain circumstances travel great distances, or experience many +events which would otherwise consume great chunks of time, in a very short +period of "normal" time. + +THE LIVING BEINGS OF THE FOURTH DIMENSION + +From what I can see of it, although the Bible is not a scientific book, it +makes statements of fact which sooner or later science "discovers". For +example science is only now beginning. in some quarters, to propose that the +universe must have actually been designed by a higher intelligence. Working +from the premise that the Bible got it right, and that there is another +dimension in which beings live which the Bible variously calls "angels" or +in the original, messengers, to discover more about this dimension means +that we should know a bit more of what the Bible says about those beings:- + +Angels are strong and the ones which belong to God do His will. + +Ps 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in +strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the +voice of his word. + +Ps 103:21 Bless ye the LORD, all [ye] his hosts; [ye] +ministers of his, that do his pleasure. + +Ps 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in +strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the +voice of his word. + +Ps 103:21 Bless ye the LORD, all [ye] his hosts; [ye] +ministers of his, that do his pleasure. + +Ps 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a +flaming fire: +Children have angels assigned to them. + +Mt 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say +unto you, That in heaven their angels do +always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. +__________________________________________________ + +They transmit messages. + +Lu 1:19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am +Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to +speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. +__________________________________________________ + +They can be awesome. + +Lu 2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the +Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. + +Da 10:11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly +beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and +stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word +unto me, I stood trembling. + +__________________________________________________ + + +They can materialize + +Lu 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly +host praising God, and saying, + +They are called "the sons of God" sometimes and Satan appears to exist in the +same realm. + +Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to +present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also +among them. +__________________________________________________ + +They can assume various forms + +Isa 6:2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six +wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he +covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. +3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, +holy, [is] the LORD of hosts: the whole earth [is] full of +his glory. +Ac 11:11 And, behold, immediately there were three men +already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me. + __________________________________________________ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2882.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2882.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b7fe49fb --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2882.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,167 @@ + +SUBJECT: BIBLE & UFOs FILE: UFO2882 + + + +Wed 13 May 92 1:09 +By: Don Allen +To: All +Re: Bible & UFO's +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +Thought you guys and gals might find this article interesting :-) + +** Forwarded from Usenet ** + +===================================================================== +===== + + +Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University +Lines: 134 + + +This is something very interesting that I noticed a week after +their postings. + +Look at the descriptions of the "Angels" from the "Wheel", and then +look at the posting of the descriptions of the different types of +aliens. + +====================posting below====================== + +Article: 5598 of alt.alien.visitors +From: aw2s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andrew Todd Weinstein) +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: THE BIBLE +Message-ID: +Date: 4 May 92 18:20:30 GMT +Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, +Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA +Lines: 271 + + +I recently got the bible from an ftp, and was searching through the 4 +meg text document for certain key words, like wheel, flame, white, angel, and +I came up with some very interesting quotes from the bible. +It sounds to me a lot like the things written in the bible were based on +alien/ufo influences during that time. I have been reading this book on +UFO's and the author presents some very interesting quotes throughout +history of possible descriptions of UFO's and these were historical quotes +from Japan, Europe, and other places , most of which had little contact +between each other thousands of years ago and a lot of them described +UFO's in the sky using the same word, "wheel", and in the Bible, they +mention the word wheel a few times, which I think is very interesting. +And also the fact that if you lived 2000 or more years ago when there +was absolutely no high-tech things and the only thing you knew that flew +were birds and insects, you would lose your mind if you saw anything +like a UFO fly in the sky (not to say that many people now wouldn't lose +their mind if they saw one, although they would be skeptic like try to +explain it by saying that it was some military flight, or whatever, but +back then, there were no airplanes or anything like that), and you +would immediately think that this is some message from the lord above +and you would immediately think that it was some powerful religious or +spiritual thing. Well, let me know what you think, and if you have any +other quotes to add to this that might relate the bible to UFO's/aliens, +please post them. + . + . + . + . + +020:001 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of + the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. + +020:011 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from + whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was + found no place for them. + +022:008 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had + heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the + angel which shewed me these things. + +083:013 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the + wind. + +001:004 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, + a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness + was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of + amber, out of the midst of the fire. +001:005 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living + creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a + man. +001:006 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. + +001:007 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet + was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the + colour of burnished brass. +001:008 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their + four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings. +001:009 Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when + they went; they went every one straight forward. +001:010 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of + a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they + four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also + had the face of an eagle. +********************************************************************* +************* ok, right here /\ . now read the next thing +********************************************************************* + +Article: 5599 of alt.alien.visitors +From: Malfera@cup.portal.com (Dan M Healy) +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: New UFO-pic posted ! +Message-ID: <58466@cup.portal.com> +Date: 4 May 92 23:25:04 GMT +Article-I.D.: cup.58466 +Organization: The Portal System (TM) +Lines: 55 + + + + + + +>4. Human-type, about 6-7 feet, blond and blue eyes. Cat-like eyes +>(although some claim to have seen ones just like us). No sclera (white +>part of eyes), solid blue. Some have seen yellow eyes with vertical +>black slits. Breast patch seen is circular with two triangles +>intersecting (like David's 6-pointed star pulled apart upward half way), +>or a V intersecting an upside-down V in a circle. + +********************************************************************* +************ sounds like the face of a lion!!....Long blond hair (mane) ** +************ and cat like eyes! ************************************ + + +>5. Human-type with a large beaked-nose and vertical slits. These are +>the types that are reported to have visited with Eisenhower at Holoman +>AFB in 1964 during his 'dentist visit' as announced to the press (no +>dentist in the area ever saw him). 3-5 cameras are reported to have +>filmed the event. Military security. Also, there are references to a +>skull cap worn by some, like a tight-fitting swim cap with a portion +>that curls down around the ear like 3/4 circular sideburns; cap is blue +>and trimmed on the edge with gold. William Cooper has said he has seen +>one of these. + +********************************************************************* +* +* FACE OF AN EAGLE!... "large beaked-nose and verticle slits." +**** + +********************************************************************* + +HOLY SH*T!!!! + +Just a revelation...for me. + +Brick. + + +** End of Article ** + +Don + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2883.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2883.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..596dc0fc --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2883.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +SUBJECT: OTHER CULTURES AND UFOs FILE: UFO2883 + + + + +Date: 06-17-91 18:57 +From: Dave Kelly +To: Harsha Godavari + + You ask if any other cultures had had experiences in UFO's, wars or +encounters as written in the "Mahabhrata". Let me direct you to three +areas of interest. + + 1. "The Epic of Gilgamish"-is about the fourth Sumerian King after +the flood and talks of events that could be nuclear explosions. Flashes +of light and intense heat that wipe out great forests and leave the +sand like glass. + + 2. "Kalevala"-is the national epic of Finland. Originally compiled +in 1835 through personal interviews of the people who brought the tales +down by word of mouth. Its been 25 years since I read this book (it was +over 2000 pages and in the rhyme verse that they used to memorize the +folklore) and as I remember delt with the old gods of nordic folklore. +Some of the actions and events could be construed as flying objects and +high tech weapons. BTW-The Houston Public Library now denies existance +this book in their system. + + 3. Find a book on the folklore of the 'Maori'. New Zealanders are +of this culture. Their folklore deals with times before the +Mahabharata. So said the preface to the book I read. Kings and gods +traveling great distances at incrediable speeds in vehicles in the sky. +(space ships????). Numbers 1 and 2 can proberly be gotten from any +large public library by the names I have listed, number 3 I don't remember the +name of exactly. + + I hope you find this enjoyable reading, I know I did. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2884.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2884.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c03c0ff5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2884.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,4714 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON THE BIBLE, UFOs & ALIENS FILE: UFO2884 + + + + +EZE 1:1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the + fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, + that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. + +EZE 1:2 In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king + Jehoiachin's captivity, + +EZE 1:3 The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son + of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand + of the LORD was there upon him. + +EZE 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great + cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out + of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. + +EZE 1:5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living + creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. + +EZE 1:6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. + +EZE 1:7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like + the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished + brass. + +EZE 1:8 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; + and they four had their faces and their wings. + +EZE 1:9 Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they + went; they went every one straight forward. + +EZE 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a + man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of + an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle. + +EZE 1:11 Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two + wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies. + +EZE 1:12 And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to + go, they went; and they turned not when they went. + +EZE 1:13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was + like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and + down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire + went forth lightning. + +EZE 1:14 And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a + flash of lightning. + +EZE 1:15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth + by the living creatures, with his four faces. + +EZE 1:16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour + of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their + work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. + +EZE 1:17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not + when they went. + +EZE 1:18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and + their rings were full of eyes round about them four. + +EZE 1:19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when + the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted + up. + +EZE 1:20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their + spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit + of the living creature was in the wheels. + +EZE 1:21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and + when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over + against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. + +EZE 1:22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living + creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over + their heads above. + +EZE 1:23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the + other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, + which covered on that side, their bodies. + +EZE 1:24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise + of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the + noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings. + +EZE 1:25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, + when they stood, and had let down their wings. + +EZE 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of + a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the + throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. + +EZE 1:27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round + about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the + appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of + fire, and it had brightness round about. + +EZE 1:28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, + so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance + of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my + face, and I heard a voice of one that spake. + +EZE 2:1 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak + unto thee. + +EZE 2:2 And the spirit entered into me when he spake unto me, and set me upon + my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me. + +EZE 2:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of + Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their + fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day. + +EZE 2:4 For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto + them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 2:5 And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for + they are a rebellious house,) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet + among them. + +EZE 2:6 And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid + of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell + among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their + looks, though they be a rebellious house. + +EZE 2:7 And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or + whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious. + +EZE 2:8 But thou, son of man, hear what I say unto thee; Be not thou + rebellious like that rebellious house: open thy mouth, and eat that I give + thee. + +EZE 2:9 And when I looked, behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll + of a book was therein; + +EZE 2:10 And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: + and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe. + +EZE 3:1 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this + roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel. + +EZE 3:2 So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that roll. + +EZE 3:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy + bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my + mouth as honey for sweetness. + +EZE 3:4 And he said unto me, Son of man, go, get thee unto the house of + Israel, and speak with my words unto them. + +EZE 3:5 For thou art not sent to a people of a strange speech and of an hard + language, but to the house of Israel; + +EZE 3:6 Not to many people of a strange speech and of an hard language, whose + words thou canst not understand. Surely, had I sent thee to them, they would + have hearkened unto thee. + +EZE 3:7 But the house of Israel will not hearken unto thee; for they will not + hearken unto me: for all the house of Israel are impudent and hardhearted. + +EZE 3:8 Behold, I have made thy face strong against their faces, and thy + forehead strong against their foreheads. + +EZE 3:9 As an adamant harder than flint have I made thy forehead: fear them + not, neither be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house. + +EZE 3:10 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, all my words that I shall speak + unto thee receive in thine heart, and hear with thine ears. + +EZE 3:11 And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy + people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; whether + they will hear, or whether they will forbear. + +EZE 3:12 Then the spirit took me up, and I heard behind me a voice of a great + rushing, saying, Blessed be the glory of the LORD from his place. + +EZE 3:13 I heard also the noise of the wings of the living creatures that + touched one another, and the noise of the wheels over against them, and a + noise of a great rushing. + +EZE 3:14 So the spirit lifted me up, and took me away, and I went in + bitterness, in the heat of my spirit; but the hand of the LORD was strong + upon me. + +EZE 3:15 Then I came to them of the captivity at Telabib, that dwelt by the + river of Chebar, and I sat where they sat, and remained there astonished + among them seven days. + +EZE 3:16 And it came to pass at the end of seven days, that the word of the + LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: + therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. + +EZE 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest + him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save + his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I + require at thine hand. + +EZE 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor + from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered + thy soul. + +EZE 3:20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and + commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: + because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his + righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will + I require at thine hand. + +EZE 3:21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin + not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also + thou hast delivered thy soul. + +EZE 3:22 And the hand of the LORD was there upon me; and he said unto me, + Arise, go forth into the plain, and I will there talk with thee. + +EZE 3:23 Then I arose, and went forth into the plain: and, behold, the glory + of the LORD stood there, as the glory which I saw by the river of Chebar: and + I fell on my face. + +EZE 3:24 Then the spirit entered into me, and set me upon my feet, and spake + with me, and said unto me, Go, shut thyself within thine house. + +EZE 3:25 But thou, O son of man, behold, they shall put bands upon thee, and + shall bind thee with them, and thou shalt not go out among them: + +EZE 3:26 And I will make thy tongue cleave to the roof of thy mouth, that thou + shalt be dumb, and shalt not be to them a reprover: for they are a rebellious + house. + +EZE 3:27 But when I speak with thee, I will open thy mouth, and thou shalt say + unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; He that heareth, let him hear; and he + that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house. + +EZE 4:1 Thou also, son of man, take thee a tile, and lay it before thee, and + pourtray upon it the city, even Jerusalem: + +EZE 4:2 And lay siege against it, and build a fort against it, and cast a + mount against it; set the camp also against it, and set battering rams + against it round about. + +EZE 4:3 Moreover take thou unto thee an iron pan, and set it for a wall of + iron between thee and the city: and set thy face against it, and it shall be + besieged, and thou shalt lay siege against it. This shall be a sign to the + house of Israel. + +EZE 4:4 Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of + Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon + it thou shalt bear their iniquity. + +EZE 4:5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according + to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear + the iniquity of the house of Israel. + +EZE 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and + thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have + appointed thee each day for a year. + +EZE 4:7 Therefore thou shalt set thy face toward the siege of Jerusalem, and + thine arm shall be uncovered, and thou shalt prophesy against it. + +EZE 4:8 And, behold, I will lay bands upon thee, and thou shalt not turn thee + from one side to another, till thou hast ended the days of thy siege. + +EZE 4:9 Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, + and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread + thereof, according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon thy + side, three hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof. + +EZE 4:10 And thy meat which thou shalt eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels + a day: from time to time shalt thou eat it. + +EZE 4:11 Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: + from time to time shalt thou drink. + +EZE 4:12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with + dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. + +EZE 4:13 And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their + defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them. + +EZE 4:14 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for + from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of + itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my + mouth. + +EZE 4:15 Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's + dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith. + +EZE 4:16 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, behold, I will break the staff + of bread in Jerusalem: and they shall eat bread by weight, and with care; and + they shall drink water by measure, and with astonishment: + +EZE 4:17 That they may want bread and water, and be astonied one with + another, and consume away for their iniquity. + +EZE 5:1 And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife, take thee a barber's + razor, and cause it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take + thee balances to weigh, and divide the hair. + +EZE 5:2 Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when + the days of the siege are fulfilled: and thou shalt take a third part, and + smite about it with a knife: and a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind; + and I will draw out a sword after them. + +EZE 5:3 Thou shalt also take thereof a few in number, and bind them in thy + skirts. + +EZE 5:4 Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the fire, and + burn them in the fire; for thereof shall a fire come forth into all the house + of Israel. + +EZE 5:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD; This is Jerusalem: I have set it in the midst + of the nations and countries that are round about her. + +EZE 5:6 And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the + nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: + for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked + in them. + +EZE 5:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye multiplied more than the + nations that are round about you, and have not walked in my statutes, neither + have kept my judgments, neither have done according to the judgments of the + nations that are round about you; + +EZE 5:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, am against + thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the + nations. + +EZE 5:9 And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will + not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations. + +EZE 5:10 Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and + the sons shall eat their fathers; and I will execute judgments in thee, and + the whole remnant of thee will I scatter into all the winds. + +EZE 5:11 Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD; Surely, because thou hast + defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine + abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall mine eye + spare, neither will I have any pity. + +EZE 5:12 A third part of thee shall die with the pestilence, and with famine + shall they be consumed in the midst of thee: and a third part shall fall by + the sword round about thee; and I will scatter a third part into all the + winds, and I will draw out a sword after them. + +EZE 5:13 Thus shall mine anger be accomplished, and I will cause my fury to + rest upon them, and I will be comforted: and they shall know that I the LORD + have spoken it in my zeal, when I have accomplished my fury in them. + +EZE 5:14 Moreover I will make thee waste, and a reproach among the nations + that are round about thee, in the sight of all that pass by. + +EZE 5:15 So it shall be a reproach and a taunt, an instruction and an + astonishment unto the nations that are round about thee, when I shall execute + judgments in thee in anger and in fury and in furious rebukes. I the LORD + have spoken it. + +EZE 5:16 When I shall send upon them the evil arrows of famine, which shall be + for their destruction, and which I will send to destroy you: and I will + increase the famine upon you, and will break your staff of bread: + +EZE 5:17 So will I send upon you famine and evil beasts, and they shall + bereave thee: and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee; and I will + bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it. + +EZE 6:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 6:2 Son of man, set thy face toward the mountains of Israel, and prophesy + against them, + +EZE 6:3 And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus + saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and + to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will + destroy your high places. + +EZE 6:4 And your altars shall be desolate, and your images shall be broken: + and I will cast down your slain men before your idols. + +EZE 6:5 And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of Israel before + their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars. + +EZE 6:6 In all your dwellingplaces the cities shall be laid waste, and the + high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made + desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut + down, and your works may be abolished. + +EZE 6:7 And the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and ye shall know that I + am the LORD. + +EZE 6:8 Yet will I leave a remnant, that ye may have some that shall escape + the sword among the nations, when ye shall be scattered through the + countries. + +EZE 6:9 And they that escape of you shall remember me among the nations + whither they shall be carried captives, because I am broken with their + whorish heart, which hath departed from me, and with their eyes, which go a + whoring after their idols: and they shall lothe themselves for the evils + which they have committed in all their abominations. + +EZE 6:10 And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in + vain that I would do this evil unto them. + +EZE 6:11 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Smite with thine hand, and stamp with thy + foot, and say, Alas for all the evil abominations of the house of Israel! for + they shall fall by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence. + +EZE 6:12 He that is far off shall die of the pestilence; and he that is near + shall fall by the sword; and he that remaineth and is besieged shall die by + the famine: thus will I accomplish my fury upon them. + +EZE 6:13 Then shall ye know that I am the LORD, when their slain men shall be + among their idols round about their altars, upon every high hill, in all the + tops of the mountains, and under every green tree, and under every thick + oak, the place where they did offer sweet savour to all their idols. + +EZE 6:14 So will I stretch out my hand upon them, and make the land desolate, + yea, more desolate than the wilderness toward Diblath, in all their + habitations: and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 7:1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 7:2 Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of + Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. + +EZE 7:3 Now is the end come upon thee, and I will send mine anger upon + thee, and will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense upon + thee all thine abominations. + +EZE 7:4 And mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity: but I + will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the + midst of thee: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 7:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD; An evil, an only evil, behold, is come. + +EZE 7:6 An end is come, the end is come: it watcheth for thee; behold, it is + come. + +EZE 7:7 The morning is come unto thee, O thou that dwellest in the land: the + time is come, the day of trouble is near, and not the sounding again of the + mountains. + +EZE 7:8 Now will I shortly pour out my fury upon thee, and accomplish mine + anger upon thee: and I will judge thee according to thy ways, and will + recompense thee for all thine abominations. + +EZE 7:9 And mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will + recompense thee according to thy ways and thine abominations that are in the + midst of thee; and ye shall know that I am the LORD that smiteth. + +EZE 7:10 Behold the day, behold, it is come: the morning is gone forth; the + rod hath blossomed, pride hath budded. + +EZE 7:11 Violence is risen up into a rod of wickedness: none of them shall + remain, nor of their multitude, nor of any of their's: neither shall there be + wailing for them. + +EZE 7:12 The time is come, the day draweth near: let not the buyer rejoice, + nor the seller mourn: for wrath is upon all the multitude thereof. + +EZE 7:13 For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, although they + were yet alive: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof, which + shall not return; neither shall any strengthen himself in the iniquity of his + life. + +EZE 7:14 They have blown the trumpet, even to make all ready; but none goeth + to the battle: for my wrath is upon all the multitude thereof. + +EZE 7:15 The sword is without, and the pestilence and the famine within: he + that is in the field shall die with the sword; and he that is in the city, + famine and pestilence shall devour him. + +EZE 7:16 But they that escape of them shall escape, and shall be on the + mountains like doves of the valleys, all of them mourning, every one for his + iniquity. + +EZE 7:17 All hands shall be feeble, and all knees shall be weak as water. + +EZE 7:18 They shall also gird themselves with sackcloth, and horror shall + cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their + heads. + +EZE 7:19 They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be + removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the + day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither + fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity. + +EZE 7:20 As for the beauty of his ornament, he set it in majesty: but they + made the images of their abominations and of their detestable things therein: + therefore have I set it far from them. + +EZE 7:21 And I will give it into the hands of the strangers for a prey, and + to the wicked of the earth for a spoil; and they shall pollute it. + +EZE 7:22 My face will I turn also from them, and they shall pollute my secret + place: for the robbers shall enter into it, and defile it. + +EZE 7:23 Make a chain: for the land is full of bloody crimes, and the city is + full of violence. + +EZE 7:24 Wherefore I will bring the worst of the heathen, and they shall + possess their houses: I will also make the pomp of the strong to cease; and + their holy places shall be defiled. + +EZE 7:25 Destruction cometh; and they shall seek peace, and there shall be + none. + +EZE 7:26 Mischief shall come upon mischief, and rumour shall be upon rumour; + then shall they seek a vision of the prophet; but the law shall perish from + the priest, and counsel from the ancients. + +EZE 7:27 The king shall mourn, and the prince shall be clothed with + desolation, and the hands of the people of the land shall be troubled: I will + do unto them after their way, and according to their deserts will I judge + them; and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 8:1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the + fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat + before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me. + +EZE 8:2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the + appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, + as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber. + +EZE 8:3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine + head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and + brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate + that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, + which provoketh to jealousy. + +EZE 8:4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according + to the vision that I saw in the plain. + +EZE 8:5 Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way + toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and + behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the + entry. + +EZE 8:6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even + the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I + should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt + see greater abominations. + +EZE 8:7 And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold + a hole in the wall. + +EZE 8:8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had + digged in the wall, behold a door. + +EZE 8:9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that + they do here. + +EZE 8:10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and + abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon + the wall round about. + +EZE 8:11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house + of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with + every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up. + +EZE 8:12 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients + of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his + imagery? for they say, the LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the + earth. + +EZE 8:13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater + abominations that they do. + +EZE 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which + was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. + +EZE 8:15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee + yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. + +EZE 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, + behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the + altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple + of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun + toward the east. + +EZE 8:17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a + light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which + they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have + returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. + +EZE 8:18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither + will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet + will I not hear them. + +EZE 9:1 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that + have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying + weapon in his hand. + +EZE 9:2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth + toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man + among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and + they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. + +EZE 9:3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, + whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man + clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; + +EZE 9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through + the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that + sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. + +EZE 9:5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the + city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: + +EZE 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and + women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my + sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. + +EZE 9:7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the + slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city. + +EZE 9:8 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, + that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy + all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem? + +EZE 9:9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is + exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of + perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD + seeth not. + +EZE 9:10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have + pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head. + +EZE 9:11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his + side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me. + +EZE 10:1 Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head + of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the + appearance of the likeness of a throne. + +EZE 10:2 And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between + the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire + from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in + my sight. + +EZE 10:3 Now the cherubims stood on the right side of the house, when the man + went in; and the cloud filled the inner court. + +EZE 10:4 Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over + the threshold of the house; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the + court was full of the brightness of the LORD's glory. + +EZE 10:5 And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer + court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaketh. + +EZE 10:6 And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with + linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; + then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. + +EZE 10:7 And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubims + unto the fire that was between the cherubims, and took thereof, and put it + into the hands of him that was clothed with linen: who took it, and went out. + +EZE 10:8 And there appeared in the cherubims the form of a man's hand under + their wings. + +EZE 10:9 And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel + by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the + wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone. + +EZE 10:10 And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a + wheel had been in the midst of a wheel. + +EZE 10:11 When they went, they went upon their four sides; they turned not as + they went, but to the place whither the head looked they followed it; they + turned not as they went. + +EZE 10:12 And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their + wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that + they four had. + +EZE 10:13 As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel. + +EZE 10:14 And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a + cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of + a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle. + +EZE 10:15 And the cherubims were lifted up. This is the living creature that I + saw by the river of Chebar. + +EZE 10:16 And when the cherubims went, the wheels went by them: and when the + cherubims lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels + also turned not from beside them. + +EZE 10:17 When they stood, these stood; and when they were lifted up, these + lifted up themselves also: for the spirit of the living creature was in them. + +EZE 10:18 Then the glory of the LORD departed from off the threshold of the + house, and stood over the cherubims. + +EZE 10:19 And the cherubims lifted up their wings, and mounted up from the + earth in my sight: when they went out, the wheels also were beside them, and + every one stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD's house; and the + glory of the God of Israel was over them above. + +EZE 10:20 This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by + the river of Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubims. + +EZE 10:21 Every one had four faces apiece, and every one four wings; and the + likeness of the hands of a man was under their wings. + +EZE 10:22 And the likeness of their faces was the same faces which I saw by + the river of Chebar, their appearances and themselves: they went every one + straight forward. + +EZE 11:1 Moreover the spirit lifted me up, and brought me unto the east gate + of the LORD's house, which looketh eastward: and behold at the door of the + gate five and twenty men; among whom I saw Jaazaniah the son of Azur, and + Pelatiah the son of Benaiah, princes of the people. + +EZE 11:2 Then said he unto me, Son of man, these are the men that devise + mischief, and give wicked counsel in this city: + +EZE 11:3 Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the + caldron, and we be the flesh. + +EZE 11:4 Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man. + +EZE 11:5 And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; + Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the + things that come into your mind, every one of them. + +EZE 11:6 Ye have multiplied your slain in this city, and ye have filled the + streets thereof with the slain. + +EZE 11:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid + in the midst of it, they are the flesh, and this city is the caldron: but I + will bring you forth out of the midst of it. + +EZE 11:8 Ye have feared the sword; and I will bring a sword upon you, saith + the Lord GOD. + +EZE 11:9 And I will bring you out of the midst thereof, and deliver you into + the hands of strangers, and will execute judgments among you. + +EZE 11:10 Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of + Israel; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 11:11 This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh + in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel: + +EZE 11:12 And ye shall know that I am the LORD: for ye have not walked in my + statutes, neither executed my judgments, but have done after the manners + of the heathen that are round about you. + +EZE 11:13 And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of + Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and + said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel? + +EZE 11:14 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 11:15 Son of man, thy brethren, even thy brethren, the men of thy + kindred, and all the house of Israel wholly, are they unto whom the + inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get you far from the LORD: unto us is + this land given in possession. + +EZE 11:16 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them + far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the + countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where + they shall come. + +EZE 11:17 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from + the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been + scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel. + +EZE 11:18 And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the + detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence. + +EZE 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within + you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them + an heart of flesh: + +EZE 11:20 That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do + them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God. + +EZE 11:21 But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their + detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon + their own heads, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 11:22 Then did the cherubims lift up their wings, and the wheels beside + them; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above. + +EZE 11:23 And the glory of the LORD went up from the midst of the city, and + stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city. + +EZE 11:24 Afterwards the spirit took me up, and brought me in a vision by the + Spirit of God into Chaldea, to them of the captivity. So the vision that I + had seen went up from me. + +EZE 11:25 Then I spake unto them of the captivity all the things that the LORD + had shewed me. + +EZE 12:1 The word of the LORD also came unto me, saying, + +EZE 12:2 Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which + have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they + are a rebellious house. + +EZE 12:3 Therefore, thou son of man, prepare thee stuff for removing, and + remove by day in their sight; and thou shalt remove from thy place to another + place in their sight: it may be they will consider, though they be a + rebellious house. + +EZE 12:4 Then shalt thou bring forth thy stuff by day in their sight, as stuff + for removing: and thou shalt go forth at even in their sight, as they that go + forth into captivity. + +EZE 12:5 Dig thou through the wall in their sight, and carry out thereby. + +EZE 12:6 In their sight shalt thou bear it upon thy shoulders, and carry it + forth in the twilight: thou shalt cover thy face, that thou see not the + ground: for I have set thee for a sign unto the house of Israel. + +EZE 12:7 And I did so as I was commanded: I brought forth my stuff by day, as + stuff for captivity, and in the even I digged through the wall with mine + hand; I brought it forth in the twilight, and I bare it upon my shoulder + in their sight. + +EZE 12:8 And in the morning came the word of the LORD unto me, saying, + +EZE 12:9 Son of man, hath not the house of Israel, the rebellious house, said + unto thee, What doest thou? + +EZE 12:10 Say thou unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; This burden concerneth + the prince in Jerusalem, and all the house of Israel that are among them. + +EZE 12:11 Say, I am your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto + them: they shall remove and go into captivity. + +EZE 12:12 And the prince that is among them shall bear upon his shoulder + in the twilight, and shall go forth: they shall dig through the wall to carry + out thereby: he shall cover his face, that he see not the ground with his + eyes. + +EZE 12:13 My net also will I spread upon him, and he shall be taken in my + snare: and I will bring him to Babylon to the land of the Chaldeans; yet + shall he not see it, though he shall die there. + +EZE 12:14 And I will scatter toward every wind all that are about him to help + him, and all his bands; and I will draw out the sword after them. + +EZE 12:15 And they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall scatter them + among the nations, and disperse them in the countries. + +EZE 12:16 But I will leave a few men of them from the sword, from the + famine, and from the pestilence; that they may declare all their abominations + among the heathen whither they come; and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 12:17 Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying, + +EZE 12:18 Son of man, eat thy bread with quaking, and drink thy water with + trembling and with carefulness; + +EZE 12:19 And say unto the people of the land, Thus saith the Lord GOD of the + inhabitants of Jerusalem, and of the land of Israel; They shall eat their + bread with carefulness, and drink their water with astonishment, that her + land may be desolate from all that is therein, because of the violence of all + them that dwell therein. + +EZE 12:20 And the cities that are inhabited shall be laid waste, and the land + shall be desolate; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 12:21 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 12:22 Son of man, what is that proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, + saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth? + +EZE 12:23 Tell them therefore, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will make this + proverb to cease, and they shall no more use it as a proverb in Israel; but + say unto them, The days are at hand, and the effect of every vision. + +EZE 12:24 For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination + within the house of Israel. + +EZE 12:25 For I am the LORD: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak + shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O + rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord + GOD. + +EZE 12:26 Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying. + +EZE 12:27 Son of man, behold, they of the house of Israel say, The vision that + he seeth is for many days to come, and he prophesieth of the times that are + far off. + +EZE 12:28 Therefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; There shall none + of my words be prolonged any more, but the word which I have spoken shall be + done, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 13:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 13:2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that + prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear + ye the word of the LORD; + +EZE 13:3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow + their own spirit, and have seen nothing! + +EZE 13:4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts. + +EZE 13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the + house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD. + +EZE 13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: + and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they + would confirm the word. + +EZE 13:7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying + divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken? + +EZE 13:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and + seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that + divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall + they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they + enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD. + +EZE 13:10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; + and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it + with untempered morter: + +EZE 13:11 Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall + fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall + fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it. + +EZE 13:12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is + the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it? + +EZE 13:13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy + wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and + great hailstones in my fury to consume it. + +EZE 13:14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered + morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall + be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst + thereof: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 13:15 Thus will I accomplish my wrath upon the wall, and upon them that + have daubed it with untempered morter, and will say unto you, The wall is no + more, neither they that daubed it; + +EZE 13:16 To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning + Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, + saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 13:17 Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy + people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against + them, + +EZE 13:18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows + to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt + souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive + that come unto you? + +EZE 13:19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and + for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the + souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your + lies? + +EZE 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your + pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear + them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt + to make them fly. + +EZE 13:21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your + hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know + that I am the LORD. + +EZE 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom + I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should + not return from his wicked way, by promising him life: + +EZE 13:23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I + will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the + LORD. + +EZE 14:1 Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat before me. + +EZE 14:2 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 14:3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put + the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired + of at all by them? + +EZE 14:4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord + GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his + heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and + cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according + to the multitude of his idols; + +EZE 14:5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they + are all estranged from me through their idols. + +EZE 14:6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; + Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from + all your abominations. + +EZE 14:7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that + sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his + idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his + face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD + will answer him by myself: + +EZE 14:8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and + a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall + know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the + LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and + will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. + +EZE 14:10 And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment + of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him; + +EZE 14:11 That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be + polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my + people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 14:12 The word of the LORD came again to me, saying, + +EZE 14:13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing + grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the + staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off + man and beast from it: + +EZE 14:14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they + should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord + GOD. + +EZE 14:15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil + it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the + beasts: + +EZE 14:16 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord + GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be + delivered, but the land shall be desolate. + +EZE 14:17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the + land; so that I cut off man and beast from it: + +EZE 14:18 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord + GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters, but they only shall be + delivered themselves. + +EZE 14:19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon + it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast: + +EZE 14:20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, saith the Lord + GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver + their own souls by their righteousness. + +EZE 14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore + judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome + beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast? + +EZE 14:22 Yet, behold, therein shall be left a remnant that shall be brought + forth, both sons and daughters: behold, they shall come forth unto you, and + ye shall see their way and their doings: and ye shall be comforted concerning + the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, even concerning all that I have + brought upon it. + +EZE 14:23 And they shall comfort you, when ye see their ways and their doings: + and ye shall know that I have not done without cause all that I have done in + it, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 15:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 15:2 Son of man, what is the vine tree more than any tree, or than a + branch which is among the trees of the forest? + +EZE 15:3 Shall wood be taken thereof to do any work? or will men take a pin of + it to hang any vessel thereon? + +EZE 15:4 Behold, it is cast into the fire for fuel; the fire devoureth both + the ends of it, and the midst of it is burned. Is it meet for any work? + +EZE 15:5 Behold, when it was whole, it was meet for no work: how much less + shall it be meet yet for any work, when the fire hath devoured it, and it is + burned? + +EZE 15:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; As the vine tree among the trees + of the forest, which I have given to the fire for fuel, so will I give the + inhabitants of Jerusalem. + +EZE 15:7 And I will set my face against them; they shall go out from one + fire, and another fire shall devour them; and ye shall know that I am the + LORD, when I set my face against them. + +EZE 15:8 And I will make the land desolate, because they have committed a + trespass, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 16:2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, + +EZE 16:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy + nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother + an Hittite. + +EZE 16:4 And as for thy nativity, in the day thou wast born thy navel was not + cut, neither wast thou washed in water to supple thee; thou wast not salted + at all, nor swaddled at all. + +EZE 16:5 None eye pitied thee, to do any of these unto thee, to have + compassion upon thee; but thou wast cast out in the open field, to the + lothing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born. + +EZE 16:6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, + I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee + when thou wast in thy blood, Live. + +EZE 16:7 I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast + increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy + breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and + bare. + +EZE 16:8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was + the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: + yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord + GOD, and thou becamest mine. + +EZE 16:9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood + from thee, and I anointed thee with oil. + +EZE 16:10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' + skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk. + +EZE 16:11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy + hands, and a chain on thy neck. + +EZE 16:12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a + beautiful crown upon thine head. + +EZE 16:13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of + fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and + honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper + into a kingdom. + +EZE 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it + was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord + GOD. + +EZE 16:15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot + because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that + passed by; his it was. + +EZE 16:16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places + with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall + not come, neither shall it be so. + +EZE 16:17 Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, + which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit + whoredom with them, + +EZE 16:18 And tookest thy broidered garments, and coveredst them: and thou + hast set mine oil and mine incense before them. + +EZE 16:19 My meat also which I gave thee, fine flour, and oil, and honey, + wherewith I fed thee, thou hast even set it before them for a sweet savour: + and thus it was, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 16:20 Moreover thou hast taken thy sons and thy daughters, whom thou hast + borne unto me, and these hast thou sacrificed unto them to be devoured. Is + this of thy whoredoms a small matter, + +EZE 16:21 That thou hast slain my children, and delivered them to cause them + to pass through the fire for them? + +EZE 16:22 And in all thine abominations and thy whoredoms thou hast not + remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked and bare, and wast + polluted in thy blood. + +EZE 16:23 And it came to pass after all thy wickedness, (woe, woe unto thee! + saith the LORD GOD;) + +EZE 16:24 That thou hast also built unto thee an eminent place, and hast made + thee an high place in every street. + +EZE 16:25 Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast + made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that + passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms. + +EZE 16:26 Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy + neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me + to anger. + +EZE 16:27 Behold, therefore I have stretched out my hand over thee, and have + diminished thine ordinary food, and delivered thee unto the will of them that + hate thee, the daughters of the Philistines, which are ashamed of thy lewd + way. + +EZE 16:28 Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because thou + wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest + not be satisfied. + +EZE 16:29 Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan + unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied therewith. + +EZE 16:30 How weak is thine heart, saith the LORD GOD, seeing thou doest all + these things, the work of an imperious whorish woman; + +EZE 16:31 In that thou buildest thine eminent place in the head of every + way, and makest thine high place in every street; and hast not been as an + harlot, in that thou scornest hire; + +EZE 16:32 But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers + instead of her husband! + +EZE 16:33 They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy + lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy + whoredom. + +EZE 16:34 And the contrary is in thee from other women in thy whoredoms, + whereas none followeth thee to commit whoredoms: and in that thou givest a + reward, and no reward is given unto thee, therefore thou art contrary. + +EZE 16:35 Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the LORD: + +EZE 16:36 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and + thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all + the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou + didst give unto them; + +EZE 16:37 Behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast + taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou + hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will + discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness. + +EZE 16:38 And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood + are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy. + +EZE 16:39 And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down + thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip + thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee + naked and bare. + +EZE 16:40 They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall + stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords. + +EZE 16:41 And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and execute judgments + upon thee in the sight of many women: and I will cause thee to cease from + playing the harlot, and thou also shalt give no hire any more. + +EZE 16:42 So will I make my fury toward thee to rest, and my jealousy shall + depart from thee, and I will be quiet, and will be no more angry. + +EZE 16:43 Because thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, but hast + fretted me in all these things; behold, therefore I also will recompense thy + way upon thine head, saith the Lord GOD: and thou shalt not commit this + lewdness above all thine abominations. + +EZE 16:44 Behold, every one that useth proverbs shall use this proverb against + thee, saying, As is the mother, so is her daughter. + +EZE 16:45 Thou art thy mother's daughter, that lotheth her husband and her + children; and thou art the sister of thy sisters, which lothed their husbands + and their children: your mother was an Hittite, and your father an Amorite. + +EZE 16:46 And thine elder sister is Samaria, she and her daughters that dwell + at thy left hand: and thy younger sister, that dwelleth at thy right hand, is + Sodom and her daughters. + +EZE 16:47 Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their + abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted + more than they in all thy ways. + +EZE 16:48 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she + nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters. + +EZE 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of + bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did + she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. + +EZE 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: + therefore I took them away as I saw good. + +EZE 16:51 Neither hath Samaria committed half of thy sins; but thou hast + multiplied thine abominations more than they, and hast justified thy sisters + in all thine abominations which thou hast done. + +EZE 16:52 Thou also, which hast judged thy sisters, bear thine own shame for + thy sins that thou hast committed more abominable than they: they are more + righteous than thou: yea, be thou confounded also, and bear thy shame, in + that thou hast justified thy sisters. + +EZE 16:53 When I shall bring again their captivity, the captivity of Sodom and + her daughters, and the captivity of Samaria and her daughters, then will I + bring again the captivity of thy captives in the midst of them: + +EZE 16:54 That thou mayest bear thine own shame, and mayest be confounded in + all that thou hast done, in that thou art a comfort unto them. + +EZE 16:55 When thy sisters, Sodom and her daughters, shall return to their + former estate, and Samaria and her daughters shall return to their former + estate, then thou and thy daughters shall return to your former estate. + +EZE 16:56 For thy sister Sodom was not mentioned by thy mouth in the day of + thy pride, + +EZE 16:57 Before thy wickedness was discovered, as at the time of thy reproach + of the daughters of Syria, and all that are round about her, the daughters + of the Philistines, which despise thee round about. + +EZE 16:58 Thou hast borne thy lewdness and thine abominations, saith the LORD. + +EZE 16:59 For thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even deal with thee as thou hast + done, which hast despised the oath in breaking the covenant. + +EZE 16:60 Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of + thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant. + +EZE 16:61 Then thou shalt remember thy ways, and be ashamed, when thou shalt + receive thy sisters, thine elder and thy younger: and I will give them unto + thee for daughters, but not by thy covenant. + +EZE 16:62 And I will establish my covenant with thee; and thou shalt know that + I am the LORD: + +EZE 16:63 That thou mayest remember, and be confounded, and never open thy + mouth any more because of thy shame, when I am pacified toward thee for all + that thou hast done, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 17:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of + Israel; + +EZE 17:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; A great eagle with great wings, + longwinged, full of feathers, which had divers colours, came unto + Lebanon, and took the highest branch of the cedar: + +EZE 17:4 He cropped off the top of his young twigs, and carried it into a land + of traffick; he set it in a city of merchants. + +EZE 17:5 He took also of the seed of the land, and planted it in a fruitful + field; he placed it by great waters, and set it as a willow tree. + +EZE 17:6 And it grew, and became a spreading vine of low stature, whose + branches turned toward him, and the roots thereof were under him: so it + became a vine, and brought forth branches, and shot forth sprigs. + +EZE 17:7 There was also another great eagle with great wings and many + feathers: and, behold, this vine did bend her roots toward him, and shot + forth her branches toward him, that he might water it by the furrows of her + plantation. + +EZE 17:8 It was planted in a good soil by great waters, that it might bring + forth branches, and that it might bear fruit, that it might be a goodly vine. + +EZE 17:9 Say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Shall it prosper? shall he not + pull up the roots thereof, and cut off the fruit thereof, that it wither? it + shall wither in all the leaves of her spring, even without great power or + many people to pluck it up by the roots thereof. + +EZE 17:10 Yea, behold, being planted, shall it prosper? shall it not utterly + wither, when the east wind toucheth it? it shall wither in the furrows where + it grew. + +EZE 17:11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 17:12 Say now to the rebellious house, Know ye not what these things mean? + tell them, Behold, the king of Babylon is come to Jerusalem, and hath taken + the king thereof, and the princes thereof, and led them with him to Babylon; + +EZE 17:13 And hath taken of the king's seed, and made a covenant with him, and + hath taken an oath of him: he hath also taken the mighty of the land: + +EZE 17:14 That the kingdom might be base, that it might not lift itself up, + but that by keeping of his covenant it might stand. + +EZE 17:15 But he rebelled against him in sending his ambassadors into Egypt, + that they might give him horses and much people. Shall he prosper? shall he + escape that doeth such things? or shall he break the covenant, and be + delivered? + +EZE 17:16 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely in the place where the king + dwelleth that made him king, whose oath he despised, and whose covenant he + brake, even with him in the midst of Babylon he shall die. + +EZE 17:17 Neither shall Pharaoh with his mighty army and great company make + for him in the war, by casting up mounts, and building forts, to cut off many + persons: + +EZE 17:18 Seeing he despised the oath by breaking the covenant, when, lo, he + had given his hand, and hath done all these things, he shall not escape. + +EZE 17:19 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely mine oath that + he hath despised, and my covenant that he hath broken, even it will I + recompense upon his own head. + +EZE 17:20 And I will spread my net upon him, and he shall be taken in my + snare, and I will bring him to Babylon, and will plead with him there for his + trespass that he hath trespassed against me. + +EZE 17:21 And all his fugitives with all his bands shall fall by the + sword, and they that remain shall be scattered toward all winds: and ye shall + know that I the LORD have spoken it. + +EZE 17:22 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also take of the highest branch + of the high cedar, and will set it; I will crop off from the top of his young + twigs a tender one, and will plant it upon an high mountain and eminent: + +EZE 17:23 In the mountain of the height of Israel will I plant it: and it + shall bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a goodly cedar: and under it + shall dwell all fowl of every wing; in the shadow of the branches thereof + shall they dwell. + +EZE 17:24 And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have + brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the + green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken + and have done it. + +EZE 18:1 The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying, + +EZE 18:2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, + saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set + on edge? + +EZE 18:3 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to + use this proverb in Israel. + +EZE 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the + soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. + +EZE 18:5 But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, + +EZE 18:6 And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his + eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his + neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman, + +EZE 18:7 And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his + pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the + hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment; + +EZE 18:8 He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any + increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true + judgment between man and man, + +EZE 18:9 Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal + truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 18:10 If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that + doeth the like to any one of these things, + +EZE 18:11 And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the + mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife, + +EZE 18:12 Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath + not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath + committed abomination, + +EZE 18:13 Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then + live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely + die; his blood shall be upon him. + +EZE 18:14 Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father's sins which + he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like, + +EZE 18:15 That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his + eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour's + wife, + +EZE 18:16 Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither + hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath + covered the naked with a garment, + +EZE 18:17 That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received + usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; + he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live. + +EZE 18:18 As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother + by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he + shall die in his iniquity. + +EZE 18:19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? + When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my + statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. + +EZE 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the + iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the + son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness + of the wicked shall be upon him. + +EZE 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath + committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, + he shall surely live, he shall not die. + +EZE 18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be + mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. + +EZE 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the + Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? + +EZE 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and + committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the + wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done + shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his + sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. + +EZE 18:25 Yet ye say, The way of the LORD is not equal. Hear now, O house of + Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? + +EZE 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and + committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done + shall he die. + +EZE 18:27 Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he + hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his + soul alive. + +EZE 18:28 Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions + that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. + +EZE 18:29 Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the LORD is not equal. O + house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal? + +EZE 18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according + to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your + transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. + +EZE 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have + transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, + O house of Israel? + +EZE 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the + Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye. + +EZE 19:1 Moreover take thou up a lamentation for the princes of Israel, + +EZE 19:2 And say, What is thy mother? A lioness: she lay down among lions, she + nourished her whelps among young lions. + +EZE 19:3 And she brought up one of her whelps: it became a young lion, and it + learned to catch the prey; it devoured men. + +EZE 19:4 The nations also heard of him; he was taken in their pit, and they + brought him with chains unto the land of Egypt. + +EZE 19:5 Now when she saw that she had waited, and her hope was lost, then she + took another of her whelps, and made him a young lion. + +EZE 19:6 And he went up and down among the lions, he became a young lion, and + learned to catch the prey, and devoured men. + +EZE 19:7 And he knew their desolate palaces, and he laid waste their cities; + and the land was desolate, and the fulness thereof, by the noise of his + roaring. + +EZE 19:8 Then the nations set against him on every side from the provinces, + and spread their net over him: he was taken in their pit. + +EZE 19:9 And they put him in ward in chains, and brought him to the king of + Babylon: they brought him into holds, that his voice should no more be heard + upon the mountains of Israel. + +EZE 19:10 Thy mother is like a vine in thy blood, planted by the waters: she + was fruitful and full of branches by reason of many waters. + +EZE 19:11 And she had strong rods for the sceptres of them that bare rule, and + her stature was exalted among the thick branches, and she appeared in her + height with the multitude of her branches. + +EZE 19:12 But she was plucked up in fury, she was cast down to the ground, and + the east wind dried up her fruit: her strong rods were broken and withered; + the fire consumed them. + +EZE 19:13 And now she is planted in the wilderness, in a dry and thirsty + ground. + +EZE 19:14 And fire is gone out of a rod of her branches, which hath devoured + her fruit, so that she hath no strong rod to be a sceptre to rule. This is a + lamentation, and shall be for a lamentation. + +EZE 20:1 And it came to pass in the seventh year, in the fifth month, the + tenth day of the month, that certain of the elders of Israel came to enquire + of the LORD, and sat before me. + +EZE 20:2 Then came the word of the LORD unto me, saying, + +EZE 20:3 Son of man, speak unto the elders of Israel, and say unto them, Thus + saith the Lord GOD; Are ye come to enquire of me? As I live, saith the Lord + GOD, I will not be enquired of by you. + +EZE 20:4 Wilt thou judge them, son of man, wilt thou judge them? cause them to + know the abominations of their fathers: + +EZE 20:5 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when I chose + Israel, and lifted up mine hand unto the seed of the house of Jacob, and made + myself known unto them in the land of Egypt, when I lifted up mine hand unto + them, saying, I am the LORD your God; + +EZE 20:6 In the day that I lifted up mine hand unto them, to bring them forth + of the land of Egypt into a land that I had espied for them, flowing with + milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands: + +EZE 20:7 Then said I unto them, Cast ye away every man the abominations of his + eyes, and defile not yourselves with the idols of Egypt: I am the LORD your + God. + +EZE 20:8 But they rebelled against me, and would not hearken unto me: they did + not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes, neither did they + forsake the idols of Egypt: then I said, I will pour out my fury upon them, + to accomplish my anger against them in the midst of the land of Egypt. + +EZE 20:9 But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted + before the heathen, among whom they were, in whose sight I made myself known + unto them, in bringing them forth out of the land of Egypt. + +EZE 20:10 Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and + brought them into the wilderness. + +EZE 20:11 And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if + a man do, he shall even live in them. + +EZE 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and + them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. + +EZE 20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they + walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, + he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I + said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them. + +EZE 20:14 But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted + before the heathen, in whose sight I brought them out. + +EZE 20:15 Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I + would not bring them into the land which I had given them, flowing with milk + and honey, which is the glory of all lands; + +EZE 20:16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, + but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols. + +EZE 20:17 Nevertheless mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did + I make an end of them in the wilderness. + +EZE 20:18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the + statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile + yourselves with their idols: + +EZE 20:19 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, + and do them; + +EZE 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, + that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. + +EZE 20:21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in + my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he + shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour + out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness. + +EZE 20:22 Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, + that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I + brought them forth. + +EZE 20:23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would + scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries; + +EZE 20:24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my + statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their + fathers' idols. + +EZE 20:25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and + judgments whereby they should not live; + +EZE 20:26 And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass + through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, + to the end that they might know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 20:27 Therefore, son of man, speak unto the house of Israel, and say unto + them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Yet in this your fathers have blasphemed me, + in that they have committed a trespass against me. + +EZE 20:28 For when I had brought them into the land, for the which I lifted up + mine hand to give it to them, then they saw every high hill, and all the + thick trees, and they offered there their sacrifices, and there they + presented the provocation of their offering: there also they made their sweet + savour, and poured out there their drink offerings. + +EZE 20:29 Then I said unto them, What is the high place whereunto ye go? And + the name whereof is called Bamah unto this day. + +EZE 20:30 Wherefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are + ye polluted after the manner of your fathers? and commit ye whoredom after + their abominations? + +EZE 20:31 For when ye offer your gifts, when ye make your sons to pass through + the fire, ye pollute yourselves with all your idols, even unto this day: and + shall I be enquired of by you, O house of Israel? As I live, saith the Lord + GOD, I will not be enquired of by you. + +EZE 20:32 And that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye + say, We will be as the heathen, as the families of the countries, to serve + wood and stone. + +EZE 20:33 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a + stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you: + +EZE 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out + of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a + stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. + +EZE 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there + will I plead with you face to face. + +EZE 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of + Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you + into the bond of the covenant: + +EZE 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that + transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they + sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know + that I am the LORD. + +EZE 20:39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve + ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: + but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols. + +EZE 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, + saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the + land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your + offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things. + +EZE 20:41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from + the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been + scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen. + +EZE 20:42 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall bring you into + the land of Israel, into the country for the which I lifted up mine hand to + give it to your fathers. + +EZE 20:43 And there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein + ye have been defiled; and ye shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for all + your evils that ye have committed. + +EZE 20:44 And ye shall know that I am the LORD when I have wrought with you + for my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your + corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 20:45 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 20:46 Son of man, set thy face toward the south, and drop thy word toward + the south, and prophesy against the forest of the south field; + +EZE 20:47 And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD; Thus + saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour + every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming flame shall not be + quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein. + +EZE 20:48 And all flesh shall see that I the LORD have kindled it: it shall + not be quenched. + +EZE 20:49 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak + parables? + +EZE 21:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 21:2 Son of man, set thy face toward Jerusalem, and drop thy word toward + the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel, + +EZE 21:3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am + against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut + off from thee the righteous and the wicked. + +EZE 21:4 Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the + wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh + from the south to the north: + +EZE 21:5 That all flesh may know that I the LORD have drawn forth my sword out + of his sheath: it shall not return any more. + +EZE 21:6 Sigh therefore, thou son of man, with the breaking of thy loins; and + with bitterness sigh before their eyes. + +EZE 21:7 And it shall be, when they say unto thee, Wherefore sighest thou? + that thou shalt answer, For the tidings; because it cometh: and every heart + shall melt, and all hands shall be feeble, and every spirit shall faint, and + all knees shall be weak as water: behold, it cometh, and shall be brought to + pass, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 21:8 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 21:9 Son of man, prophesy, and say, Thus saith the LORD; Say, A sword, a + sword is sharpened, and also furbished: + +EZE 21:10 It is sharpened to make a sore slaughter; it is furbished that it + may glitter: should we then make mirth? it contemneth the rod of my son, as + every tree. + +EZE 21:11 And he hath given it to be furbished, that it may be handled: this + sword is sharpened, and it is furbished, to give it into the hand of the + slayer. + +EZE 21:12 Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall + be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be + upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh. + +EZE 21:13 Because it is a trial, and what if the sword contemn even the rod? + it shall be no more, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 21:14 Thou therefore, son of man, prophesy, and smite thine hands + together. and let the sword be doubled the third time, the sword of the + slain: it is the sword of the great men that are slain, which entereth into + their privy chambers. + +EZE 21:15 I have set the point of the sword against all their gates, that + their heart may faint, and their ruins be multiplied: ah! it is made bright, + it is wrapped up for the slaughter. + +EZE 21:16 Go thee one way or other, either on the right hand, or on the left, + whithersoever thy face is set. + +EZE 21:17 I will also smite mine hands together, and I will cause my fury to + rest: I the LORD have said it. + +EZE 21:18 The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying, + +EZE 21:19 Also, thou son of man, appoint thee two ways, that the sword of the + king of Babylon may come: both twain shall come forth out of one land: and + choose thou a place, choose it at the head of the way to the city. + +EZE 21:20 Appoint a way, that the sword may come to Rabbath of the + Ammonites, and to Judah in Jerusalem the defenced. + +EZE 21:21 For the king of Babylon stood at the parting of the way, at the head + of the two ways, to use divination: he made his arrows bright, he consulted + with images, he looked in the liver. + +EZE 21:22 At his right hand was the divination for Jerusalem, to appoint + captains, to open the mouth in the slaughter, to lift up the voice with + shouting, to appoint battering rams against the gates, to cast a mount, and + to build a fort. + +EZE 21:23 And it shall be unto them as a false divination in their sight, + to them that have sworn oaths: but he will call to remembrance the iniquity, + that they may be taken. + +EZE 21:24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your + iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so + that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come + to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand. + +EZE 21:25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when + iniquity shall have an end, + +EZE 21:26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: + this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is + high. + +EZE 21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, + until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him. + +EZE 21:28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD + concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The + sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume + because of the glittering: + +EZE 21:29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto + thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, + whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end. + +EZE 21:30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the + place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity. + +EZE 21:31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against + thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish + men, and skilful to destroy. + +EZE 21:32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst + of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it. + +EZE 22:1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 22:2 Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody + city? yea, thou shalt shew her all her abominations. + +EZE 22:3 Then say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD, The city sheddeth blood + in the midst of it, that her time may come, and maketh idols against herself + to defile herself. + +EZE 22:4 Thou art become guilty in thy blood that thou hast shed; and hast + defiled thyself in thine idols which thou hast made; and thou hast caused thy + days to draw near, and art come even unto thy years: therefore have I made + thee a reproach unto the heathen, and a mocking to all countries. + +EZE 22:5 Those that be near, and those that be far from thee, shall mock thee, + which art infamous and much vexed. + +EZE 22:6 Behold, the princes of Israel, every one were in thee to their power + to shed blood. + +EZE 22:7 In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst + of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they + vexed the fatherless and the widow. + +EZE 22:8 Thou hast despised mine holy things, and hast profaned my sabbaths. + +EZE 22:9 In thee are men that carry tales to shed blood: and in thee they eat + upon the mountains: in the midst of thee they commit lewdness. + +EZE 22:10 In thee have they discovered their fathers' nakedness: in thee have + they humbled her that was set apart for pollution. + +EZE 22:11 And one hath committed abomination with his neighbour's wife; and + another hath lewdly defiled his daughter in law; and another in thee hath + humbled his sister, his father's daughter. + +EZE 22:12 In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury + and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by + extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 22:13 Behold, therefore I have smitten mine hand at thy dishonest gain + which thou hast made, and at thy blood which hath been in the midst of thee. + +EZE 22:14 Can thine heart endure, or can thine hands be strong, in the days + that I shall deal with thee? I the LORD have spoken it, and will do it. + +EZE 22:15 And I will scatter thee among the heathen, and disperse thee in the + countries, and will consume thy filthiness out of thee. + +EZE 22:16 And thou shalt take thine inheritance in thyself in the sight of the + heathen, and thou shalt know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 22:17 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 22:18 Son of man, the house of Israel is to me become dross: all they are + brass, and tin, and iron, and lead, in the midst of the furnace; they are + even the dross of silver. + +EZE 22:19 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye are all become dross, + behold, therefore I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem. + +EZE 22:20 As they gather silver, and brass, and iron, and lead, and tin, into + the midst of the furnace, to blow the fire upon it, to melt it; so will I + gather you in mine anger and in my fury, and I will leave you there, and melt + you. + +EZE 22:21 Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you in the fire of my + wrath, and ye shall be melted in the midst therof. + +EZE 22:22 As silver is melted in the midst of the furnace, so shall ye be + melted in the midst thereof; and ye shall know that I the LORD have poured + out my fury upon you. + +EZE 22:23 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 22:24 Son of man, say unto her, Thou art the land that is not cleansed, + nor rained upon in the day of indignation. + +EZE 22:25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a + roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the + treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst + thereof. + +EZE 22:26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy + things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither + have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid + their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. + +EZE 22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, + to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. + +EZE 22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing + vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when + the LORD hath not spoken. + +EZE 22:29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised + robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the + stranger wrongfully. + +EZE 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the + hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy + it: but I found none. + +EZE 22:31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have + consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed + upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 23:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, + +EZE 23:2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother: + +EZE 23:3 And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms + in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the + teats of their virginity. + +EZE 23:4 And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: + and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; + Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah. + +EZE 23:5 And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her + lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, + +EZE 23:6 Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them + desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. + +EZE 23:7 Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were + the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their + idols she defiled herself. + +EZE 23:8 Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth + they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured + their whoredom upon her. + +EZE 23:9 Wherefore I have delivered her into the hand of her lovers, into the + hand of the Assyrians, upon whom she doted. + +EZE 23:10 These discovered her nakedness: they took her sons and her + daughters, and slew her with the sword: and she became famous among women; + for they had executed judgment upon her. + +EZE 23:11 And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her + inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her + whoredoms. + +EZE 23:12 She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers + clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable + young men. + +EZE 23:13 Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, + +EZE 23:14 And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men + pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with + vermilion, + +EZE 23:15 Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon + their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the + Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: + +EZE 23:16 And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and + sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. + +EZE 23:17 And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they + defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind + was alienated from them. + +EZE 23:18 So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then + my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her + sister. + +EZE 23:19 Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days + of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. + +EZE 23:20 For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of + asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. + +EZE 23:21 Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in + bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. + +EZE 23:22 Therefore, O Aholibah, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will raise + up thy lovers against thee, from whom thy mind is alienated, and I will bring + them against thee on every side; + +EZE 23:23 The Babylonians, and all the Chaldeans, Pekod, and Shoa, and + Koa, and all the Assyrians with them: all of them desirable young men, + captains and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon + horses. + +EZE 23:24 And they shall come against thee with chariots, wagons, and wheels, + and with an assembly of people, which shall set against thee buckler and + shield and helmet round about: and I will set judgment before them, and they + shall judge thee according to their judgments. + +EZE 23:25 And I will set my jealousy against thee, and they shall deal + furiously with thee: they shall take away thy nose and thine ears; and thy + remnant shall fall by the sword: they shall take thy sons and thy daughters; + and thy residue shall be devoured by the fire. + +EZE 23:26 They shall also strip thee out of thy clothes, and take away thy + fair jewels. + +EZE 23:27 Thus will I make thy lewdness to cease from thee, and thy whoredom + brought from the land of Egypt: so that thou shalt not lift up thine eyes + unto them, nor remember Egypt any more. + +EZE 23:28 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will deliver thee into the + hand of them whom thou hatest, into the hand of them from whom thy mind is + alienated: + +EZE 23:29 And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy + labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy + whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms. + +EZE 23:30 I will do these things unto thee, because thou hast gone a whoring + after the heathen, and because thou art polluted with their idols. + +EZE 23:31 Thou hast walked in the way of thy sister; therefore will I give her + cup into thine hand. + +EZE 23:32 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou shalt drink of thy sister's cup deep + and large: thou shalt be laughed to scorn and had in derision; it containeth + much. + +EZE 23:33 Thou shalt be filled with drunkenness and sorrow, with the cup of + astonishment and desolation, with the cup of thy sister Samaria. + +EZE 23:34 Thou shalt even drink it and suck it out, and thou shalt break the + sherds thereof, and pluck off thine own breasts: for I have spoken it, saith + the Lord GOD. + +EZE 23:35 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast forgotten + me, and cast me behind thy back, therefore bear thou also thy lewdness and + thy whoredoms. + +EZE 23:36 The LORD said moreover unto me; Son of man, wilt thou judge Aholah + and Aholibah? yea, declare unto them their abominations; + +EZE 23:37 That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands, and + with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their + sons, whom they bare unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to devour + them. + +EZE 23:38 Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary + in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths. + +EZE 23:39 For when they had slain their children to their idols, then they + came the same day into my sanctuary to profane it; and, lo, thus have they + done in the midst of mine house. + +EZE 23:40 And furthermore, that ye have sent for men to come from far, unto + whom a messenger was sent; and, lo, they came: for whom thou didst wash + thyself, paintedst thy eyes, and deckedst thyself with ornaments, + +EZE 23:41 And satest upon a stately bed, and a table prepared before it, + whereupon thou hast set mine incense and mine oil. + +EZE 23:42 And a voice of a multitude being at ease was with her: and with the + men of the common sort were brought Sabeans from the wilderness, which put + bracelets upon their hands, and beautiful crowns upon their heads. + +EZE 23:43 Then said I unto her that was old in adulteries, Will they now + commit whoredoms with her, and she with them? + +EZE 23:44 Yet they went in unto her, as they go in unto a woman that playeth + the harlot: so went they in unto Aholah and unto Aholibah, the lewd women. + +EZE 23:45 And the righteous men, they shall judge them after the manner of + adulteresses, and after the manner of women that shed blood; because they are + adulteresses, and blood is in their hands. + +EZE 23:46 For thus saith the Lord GOD; I will bring up a company upon + them, and will give them to be removed and spoiled. + +EZE 23:47 And the company shall stone them with stones, and dispatch them with + their swords; they shall slay their sons and their daughters, and burn up + their houses with fire. + +EZE 23:48 Thus will I cause lewdness to cease out of the land, that all women + may be taught not to do after your lewdness. + +EZE 23:49 And they shall recompense your lewdness upon you, and ye shall bear + the sins of your idols: and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD. + +EZE 24:1 Again in the ninth year, in the tenth month, in the tenth day of the + month, the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 24:2 Son of man, write thee the name of the day, even of this same day: + the king of Babylon set himself against Jerusalem this same day. + +EZE 24:3 And utter a parable unto the rebellious house, and say unto them, + Thus saith the Lord GOD; Set on a pot, set it on, and also pour water into + it: + +EZE 24:4 Gather the pieces thereof into it, even every good piece, the + thigh, and the shoulder; fill it with the choice bones. + +EZE 24:5 Take the choice of the flock, and burn also the bones under it, and + make it boil well, and let them seethe the bones of it therein. + +EZE 24:6 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city, to the pot + whose scum is therein, and whose scum is not gone out of it! bring it out + piece by piece; let no lot fall upon it. + +EZE 24:7 For her blood is in the midst of her; she set it upon the top of a + rock; she poured it not upon the ground, to cover it with dust; + +EZE 24:8 That it might cause fury to come up to take vengeance; I have set her + blood upon the top of a rock, that it should not be covered. + +EZE 24:9 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city! I will + even make the pile for fire great. + +EZE 24:10 Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it + well, and let the bones be burned. + +EZE 24:11 Then set it empty upon the coals thereof, that the brass of it may + be hot, and may burn, and that the filthiness of it may be molten in it, that + the scum of it may be consumed. + +EZE 24:12 She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not + forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire. + +EZE 24:13 In thy filthiness is lewdness: because I have purged thee, and thou + wast not purged, thou shalt not be purged from thy filthiness any more, till + I have caused my fury to rest upon thee. + +EZE 24:14 I the LORD have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it; + I will not go back, neither will I spare, neither will I repent; according to + thy ways, and according to thy doings, shall they judge thee, saith the Lord + GOD. + +EZE 24:15 Also the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 24:16 Son of man, behold, I take away from thee the desire of thine eyes + with a stroke: yet neither shalt thou mourn nor weep, neither shall thy tears + run down. + +EZE 24:17 Forbear to cry, make no mourning for the dead, bind the tire of + thine head upon thee, and put on thy shoes upon thy feet, and cover not thy + lips, and eat not the bread of men. + +EZE 24:18 So I spake unto the people in the morning: and at even my wife died; + and I did in the morning as I was commanded. + +EZE 24:19 And the people said unto me, Wilt thou not tell us what these things + are to us, that thou doest so? + +EZE 24:20 Then I answered them, The word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 24:21 Speak unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I + will profane my sanctuary, the excellency of your strength, the desire of + your eyes, and that which your soul pitieth; and your sons and your daughters + whom ye have left shall fall by the sword. + +EZE 24:22 And ye shall do as I have done: ye shall not cover your lips, nor + eat the bread of men. + +EZE 24:23 And your tires shall be upon your heads, and your shoes upon your + feet: ye shall not mourn nor weep; but ye shall pine away for your + iniquities, and mourn one toward another. + +EZE 24:24 Thus Ezekiel is unto you a sign: according to all that he hath done + shall ye do: and when this cometh, ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD. + +EZE 24:25 Also, thou son of man, shall it not be in the day when I take from + them their strength, the joy of their glory, the desire of their eyes, and + that whereupon they set their minds, their sons and their daughters, + +EZE 24:26 That he that escapeth in that day shall come unto thee, to cause + thee to hear it with thine ears? + +EZE 24:27 In that day shall thy mouth be opened to him which is escaped, and + thou shalt speak, and be no more dumb: and thou shalt be a sign unto them; + and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 25:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, + +EZE 25:2 Son of man, set thy face against the Ammonites, and prophesy against + them; + +EZE 25:3 And say unto the Ammonites, Hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith + the Lord GOD; Because thou saidst, Aha, against my sanctuary, when it was + profaned; and against the land of Israel, when it was desolate; and against + the house of Judah, when they went into captivity; + +EZE 25:4 Behold, therefore I will deliver thee to the men of the east for a + possession, and they shall set their palaces in thee, and make their + dwellings in thee: they shall eat thy fruit, and they shall drink thy milk. + +EZE 25:5 And I will make Rabbah a stable for camels, and the Ammonites a + couching place for flocks: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 25:6 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast clapped thine hands, + and stamped with the feet, and rejoiced in heart with all thy despite against + the land of Israel; + +EZE 25:7 Behold, therefore I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and will + deliver thee for a spoil to the heathen; and I will cut thee off from the + people, and I will cause thee to perish out of the countries: I will destroy + thee; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 25:8 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because that Moab and Seir do say, + Behold, the house of Judah is like unto all the heathen; + +EZE 25:9 Therefore, behold, I will open the side of Moab from the cities, from + his cities which are on his frontiers, the glory of the country, + Bethjeshimoth, Baalmeon, and Kiriathaim, + +EZE 25:10 Unto the men of the east with the Ammonites, and will give them in + possession, that the Ammonites may not be remembered among the nations. + +EZE 25:11 And I will execute judgments upon Moab; and they shall know that I + am the LORD. + +EZE 25:12 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because that Edom hath dealt against the + house of Judah by taking vengeance, and hath greatly offended, and revenged + himself upon them; + +EZE 25:13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also stretch out mine hand + upon Edom, and will cut off man and beast from it; and I will make it + desolate from Teman; and they of Dedan shall fall by the sword. + +EZE 25:14 And I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people + Israel: and they shall do in Edom according to mine anger and according to my + fury; and they shall know my vengeance, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 25:15 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the Philistines have dealt by + revenge, and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for + the old hatred; + +EZE 25:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will stretch out mine + hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the + remnant of the sea coast. + +EZE 25:17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; + and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon + them. + +EZE 26:1 And it came to pass in the eleventh year, in the first day of the + month, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 26:2 Son of man, because that Tyrus hath said against Jerusalem, Aha, she + is broken that was the gates of the people: she is turned unto me: I shall be + replenished, now she is laid waste: + +EZE 26:3 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O + Tyrus, and will cause many nations to come up against thee, as the sea + causeth his waves to come up. + +EZE 26:4 And they shall destroy the walls of Tyrus, and break down her towers: + I will also scrape her dust from her, and make her like the top of a rock. + +EZE 26:5 It shall be a place for the spreading of nets in the midst of the + sea: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD: and it shall become a spoil + to the nations. + +EZE 26:6 And her daughters which are in the field shall be slain by the sword; + and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 26:7 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus + Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings, from the north, with horses, + and with chariots, and with horsemen, and companies, and much people. + +EZE 26:8 He shall slay with the sword thy daughters in the field: and he shall + make a fort against thee, and cast a mount against thee, and lift up the + buckler against thee. + +EZE 26:9 And he shall set engines of war against thy walls, and with his axes + he shall break down thy towers. + +EZE 26:10 By reason of the abundance of his horses their dust shall cover + thee: thy walls shall shake at the noise of the horsemen, and of the wheels, + and of the chariots, when he shall enter into thy gates, as men enter into a + city wherein is made a breach. + +EZE 26:11 With the hoofs of his horses shall he tread down all thy streets: he + shall slay thy people by the sword, and thy strong garrisons shall go down + to the ground. + +EZE 26:12 And they shall make a spoil of thy riches, and make a prey of thy + merchandise: and they shall break down thy walls, and destroy thy pleasant + houses: and they shall lay thy stones and thy timber and thy dust in the + midst of the water. + +EZE 26:13 And I will cause the noise of thy songs to cease; and the sound of + thy harps shall be no more heard. + +EZE 26:14 And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place + to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken + it, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 26:15 Thus saith the Lord GOD to Tyrus; Shall not the isles shake at the + sound of thy fall, when the wounded cry, when the slaughter is made in the + midst of thee? + +EZE 26:16 Then all the princes of the sea shall come down from their thrones, + and lay away their robes, and put off their broidered garments: they shall + clothe themselves with trembling; they shall sit upon the ground, and shall + tremble at every moment, and be astonished at thee. + +EZE 26:17 And they shall take up a lamentation for thee, and say to thee, How + art thou destroyed, that wast inhabited of seafaring men, the renowned city, + which wast strong in the sea, she and her inhabitants, which cause their + terror to be on all that haunt it! + +EZE 26:18 Now shall the isles tremble in the day of thy fall; yea, the isles + that are in the sea shall be troubled at thy departure. + +EZE 26:19 For thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall make thee a desolate city, + like the cities that are not inhabited; when I shall bring up the deep upon + thee, and great waters shall cover thee; + +EZE 26:20 When I shall bring thee down with them that descend into the pit, + with the people of old time, and shall set thee in the low parts of the + earth, in places desolate of old, with them that go down to the pit, that + thou be not inhabited; and I shall set glory in the land of the living; + +EZE 26:21 I will make thee a terror, and thou shalt be no more: though thou be + sought for, yet shalt thou never be found again, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 27:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, + +EZE 27:2 Now, thou son of man, take up a lamentation for Tyrus; + +EZE 27:3 And say unto Tyrus, O thou that art situate at the entry of the sea, + which art a merchant of the people for many isles, Thus saith the Lord GOD; O + Tyrus, thou hast said, I am of perfect beauty. + +EZE 27:4 Thy borders are in the midst of the seas, thy builders have perfected + thy beauty. + +EZE 27:5 They have made all thy ship boards of fir trees of Senir: they have + taken cedars from Lebanon to make masts for thee. + +EZE 27:6 Of the oaks of Bashan have they made thine oars; the company of the + Ashurites have made thy benches of ivory, brought out of the isles of + Chittim. + +EZE 27:7 Fine linen with broidered work from Egypt was that which thou + spreadest forth to be thy sail; blue and purple from the isles of Elishah was + that which covered thee. + +EZE 27:8 The inhabitants of Zidon and Arvad were thy mariners: thy wise men, O + Tyrus, that were in thee, were thy pilots. + +EZE 27:9 The ancients of Gebal and the wise men thereof were in thee thy + calkers: all the ships of the sea with their mariners were in thee to occupy + thy merchandise. + +EZE 27:10 They of Persia and of Lud and of Phut were in thine army, thy men of + war: they hanged the shield and helmet in thee; they set forth thy + comeliness. + +EZE 27:11 The men of Arvad with thine army were upon thy walls round + about, and the Gammadims were in thy towers: they hanged their shields upon + thy walls round about; they have made thy beauty perfect. + +EZE 27:12 Tarshish was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of all kind of + riches; with silver, iron, tin, and lead, they traded in thy fairs. + +EZE 27:13 Javan, Tubal, and Meshech, they were thy merchants: they traded the + persons of men and vessels of brass in thy market. + +EZE 27:14 They of the house of Togarmah traded in thy fairs with horses and + horsemen and mules. + +EZE 27:15 The men of Dedan were thy merchants; many isles were the merchandise + of thine hand: they brought thee for a present horns of ivory and ebony. + +EZE 27:16 Syria was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of the wares of + thy making: they occupied in thy fairs with emeralds, purple, and broidered + work, and fine linen, and coral, and agate. + +EZE 27:17 Judah, and the land of Israel, they were thy merchants: they traded + in thy market wheat of Minnith, and Pannag, and honey, and oil, and balm. + +EZE 27:18 Damascus was thy merchant in the multitude of the wares of thy + making, for the multitude of all riches; in the wine of Helbon, and white + wool. + +EZE 27:19 Dan also and Javan going to and fro occupied in thy fairs: bright + iron, cassia, and calamus, were in thy market. + +EZE 27:20 Dedan was thy merchant in precious clothes for chariots. + +EZE 27:21 Arabia, and all the princes of Kedar, they occupied with thee in + lambs, and rams, and goats: in these were they thy merchants. + +EZE 27:22 The merchants of Sheba and Raamah, they were thy merchants: they + occupied in thy fairs with chief of all spices, and with all precious + stones, and gold. + +EZE 27:23 Haran, and Canneh, and Eden, the merchants of Sheba, Asshur, and + Chilmad, were thy merchants. + +EZE 27:24 These were thy merchants in all sorts of things, in blue + clothes, and broidered work, and in chests of rich apparel, bound with cords, + and made of cedar, among thy merchandise. + +EZE 27:25 The ships of Tarshish did sing of thee in thy market: and thou wast + replenished, and made very glorious in the midst of the seas. + +EZE 27:26 Thy rowers have brought thee into great waters: the east wind hath + broken thee in the midst of the seas. + +EZE 27:27 Thy riches, and thy fairs, thy merchandise, thy mariners, and thy + pilots, thy calkers, and the occupiers of thy merchandise, and all thy men of + war, that are in thee, and in all thy company which is in the midst of thee, + shall fall into the midst of the seas in the day of thy ruin. + +EZE 27:28 The suburbs shall shake at the sound of the cry of thy pilots. + +EZE 27:29 And all that handle the oar, the mariners, and all the pilots of the + sea, shall come down from their ships, they shall stand upon the land; + +EZE 27:30 And shall cause their voice to be heard against thee, and shall cry + bitterly, and shall cast up dust upon their heads, they shall wallow + themselves in the ashes: + +EZE 27:31 And they shall make themselves utterly bald for thee, and gird them + with sackcloth, and they shall weep for thee with bitterness of heart and + bitter wailing. + +EZE 27:32 And in their wailing they shall take up a lamentation for thee, and + lament over thee, saying, What city is like Tyrus, like the destroyed in the + midst of the sea? + +EZE 27:33 When thy wares went forth out of the seas, thou filledst many + people; thou didst enrich the kings of the earth with the multitude of thy + riches and of thy merchandise. + +EZE 27:34 In the time when thou shalt be broken by the seas in the depths + of the waters thy merchandise and all thy company in the midst of thee shall + fall. + +EZE 27:35 All the inhabitants of the isles shall be astonished at thee, and + their kings shall be sore afraid, they shall be troubled in their + countenance. + +EZE 27:36 The merchants among the people shall hiss at thee; thou shalt be a + terror, and never shalt be any more. + +EZE 28:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, + +EZE 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; + Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit + in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not + God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: + +EZE 28:3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can + hide from thee: + +EZE 28:4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee + riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: + +EZE 28:5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy + riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches: + +EZE 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart + as the heart of God; + +EZE 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible + of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy + wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. + +EZE 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths + of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. + +EZE 28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou + shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. + +EZE 28:10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of + strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 28:11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say + unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of + wisdom, and perfect in beauty. + +EZE 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was + thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and + the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the + workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day + that thou wast created. + +EZE 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: + thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the + midst of the stones of fire. + +EZE 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, + till iniquity was found in thee. + +EZE 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst + of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as + profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering + cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. + +EZE 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted + thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I + will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. + +EZE 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine + iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a + fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to + ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. + +EZE 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at + thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. + +EZE 28:20 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 28:21 Son of man, set thy face against Zidon, and prophesy against it, + +EZE 28:22 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O + Zidon; and I will be glorified in the midst of thee: and they shall know that + I am the LORD, when I shall have executed judgments in her, and shall be + sanctified in her. + +EZE 28:23 For I will send into her pestilence, and blood into her streets; and + the wounded shall be judged in the midst of her by the sword upon her on + every side; and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 28:24 And there shall be no more a pricking brier unto the house of + Israel, nor any grieving thorn of all that are round about them, that + despised them; and they shall know that I am the Lord GOD. + +EZE 28:25 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall have gathered the house of + Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified + in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that + I have given to my servant Jacob. + +EZE 28:26 And they shall dwell safely therein, and shall build houses, and + plant vineyards; yea, they shall dwell with confidence, when I have executed + judgments upon all those that despise them round about them; and they shall + know that I am the LORD their God. + +EZE 29:1 In the tenth year, in the tenth month, in the twelfth day of the + month, the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 29:2 Son of man, set thy face against Pharaoh king of Egypt, and prophesy + against him, and against all Egypt: + +EZE 29:3 Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, + Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his + rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself. + +EZE 29:4 But I will put hooks in thy jaws, and I will cause the fish of thy + rivers to stick unto thy scales, and I will bring thee up out of the midst of + thy rivers, and all the fish of thy rivers shall stick unto thy scales. + +EZE 29:5 And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the + fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not be + brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts + of the field and to the fowls of the heaven. + +EZE 29:6 And all the inhabitants of Egypt shall know that I am the LORD, + because they have been a staff of reed to the house of Israel. + +EZE 29:7 When they took hold of thee by thy hand, thou didst break, and rend + all their shoulder: and when they leaned upon thee, thou brakest, and madest + all their loins to be at a stand. + +EZE 29:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring a sword upon + thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee. + +EZE 29:9 And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall + know that I am the LORD: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have + made it. + +EZE 29:10 Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I + will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of + Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia. + +EZE 29:11 No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass + through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years. + +EZE 29:12 And I will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the + countries that are desolate, and her cities among the cities that are laid + waste shall be desolate forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among + the nations, and will disperse them through the countries. + +EZE 29:13 Yet thus saith the Lord GOD; At the end of forty years will I gather + the Egyptians from the people whither they were scattered: + +EZE 29:14 And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them + to return into the land of Pathros, into the land of their habitation; and + they shall be there a base kingdom. + +EZE 29:15 It shall be the basest of the kingdoms; neither shall it exalt + itself any more above the nations: for I will diminish them, that they shall + no more rule over the nations. + +EZE 29:16 And it shall be no more the confidence of the house of Israel, which + bringeth their iniquity to remembrance, when they shall look after them: but + they shall know that I am the Lord GOD. + +EZE 29:17 And it came to pass in the seven and twentieth year, in the first + month, in the first day of the month, the word of the LORD came unto me, + saying, + +EZE 29:18 Son of man, Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon caused his army to serve + a great service against Tyrus: every head was made bald, and every shoulder + was peeled: yet had he no wages, nor his army, for Tyrus, for the service + that he had served against it: + +EZE 29:19 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will give the land of + Egypt unto Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon; and he shall take her + multitude, and take her spoil, and take her prey; and it shall be the wages + for his army. + +EZE 29:20 I have given him the land of Egypt for his labour wherewith he + served against it, because they wrought for me, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 29:21 In that day will I cause the horn of the house of Israel to bud + forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth in the midst of them; + and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 30:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, + +EZE 30:2 Son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Howl ye, Woe + worth the day! + +EZE 30:3 For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; + it shall be the time of the heathen. + +EZE 30:4 And the sword shall come upon Egypt, and great pain shall be in + Ethiopia, when the slain shall fall in Egypt, and they shall take away her + multitude, and her foundations shall be broken down. + +EZE 30:5 Ethiopia, and Libya, and Lydia, and all the mingled people, and + Chub, and the men of the land that is in league, shall fall with them by the + sword. + +EZE 30:6 Thus saith the LORD; They also that uphold Egypt shall fall; and the + pride of her power shall come down: from the tower of Syene shall they fall + in it by the sword, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 30:7 And they shall be desolate in the midst of the countries that are + desolate, and her cities shall be in the midst of the cities that are wasted. + +EZE 30:8 And they shall know that I am the LORD, when I have set a fire in + Egypt, and when all her helpers shall be destroyed. + +EZE 30:9 In that day shall messengers go forth from me in ships to make the + careless Ethiopians afraid, and great pain shall come upon them, as in the + day of Egypt: for, lo, it cometh. + +EZE 30:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also make the multitude of Egypt to + cease by the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon. + +EZE 30:11 He and his people with him, the terrible of the nations, shall be + brought to destroy the land: and they shall draw their swords against + Egypt, and fill the land with the slain. + +EZE 30:12 And I will make the rivers dry, and sell the land into the hand + of the wicked: and I will make the land waste, and all that is therein, by + the hand of strangers: I the LORD have spoken it. + +EZE 30:13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also destroy the idols, and I will + cause their images to cease out of Noph; and there shall be no more a prince + of the land of Egypt: and I will put a fear in the land of Egypt. + +EZE 30:14 And I will make Pathros desolate, and will set fire in Zoan, and + will execute judgments in No. + +EZE 30:15 And I will pour my fury upon Sin, the strength of Egypt; and I will + cut off the multitude of No. + +EZE 30:16 And I will set fire in Egypt: Sin shall have great pain, and No + shall be rent asunder, and Noph shall have distresses daily. + +EZE 30:17 The young men of Aven and of Pibeseth shall fall by the sword: and + these cities shall go into captivity. + +EZE 30:18 At Tehaphnehes also the day shall be darkened, when I shall break + there the yokes of Egypt: and the pomp of her strength shall cease in her: as + for her, a cloud shall cover her, and her daughters shall go into captivity. + +EZE 30:19 Thus will I execute judgments in Egypt: and they shall know that I + am the LORD. + +EZE 30:20 And it came to pass in the eleventh year, in the first month, in the + seventh day of the month, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 30:21 Son of man, I have broken the arm of Pharaoh king of Egypt; and, lo, + it shall not be bound up to be healed, to put a roller to bind it, to make it + strong to hold the sword. + +EZE 30:22 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against Pharaoh king + of Egypt, and will break his arms, the strong, and that which was broken; and + I will cause the sword to fall out of his hand. + +EZE 30:23 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will + disperse them through the countries. + +EZE 30:24 And I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, and put my + sword in his hand: but I will break Pharaoh's arms, and he shall groan before + him with the groanings of a deadly wounded man. + +EZE 30:25 But I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, and the arms + of Pharaoh shall fall down; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I + shall put my sword into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall stretch + it out upon the land of Egypt. + +EZE 30:26 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and disperse + them among the countries; and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 31:1 And it came to pass in the eleventh year, in the third month, in the + first day of the month, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 31:2 Son of man, speak unto Pharaoh king of Egypt, and to his multitude; + Whom art thou like in thy greatness? + +EZE 31:3 Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and + with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the + thick boughs. + +EZE 31:4 The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her + rivers running round about his plants, and sent her little rivers unto all + the trees of the field. + +EZE 31:5 Therefore his height was exalted above all the trees of the + field, and his boughs were multiplied, and his branches became long because + of the multitude of waters, when he shot forth. + +EZE 31:6 All the fowls of heaven made their nests in his boughs, and under his + branches did all the beasts of the field bring forth their young, and under + his shadow dwelt all great nations. + +EZE 31:7 Thus was he fair in his greatness, in the length of his branches: for + his root was by great waters. + +EZE 31:8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees + were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches; + nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty. + +EZE 31:9 I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all + the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him. + +EZE 31:10 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast lifted up + thyself in height, and he hath shot up his top among the thick boughs, and + his heart is lifted up in his height; + +EZE 31:11 I have therefore delivered him into the hand of the mighty one + of the heathen; he shall surely deal with him: I have driven him out for his + wickedness. + +EZE 31:12 And strangers, the terrible of the nations, have cut him off, and + have left him: upon the mountains and in all the valleys his branches are + fallen, and his boughs are broken by all the rivers of the land; and all the + people of the earth are gone down from his shadow, and have left him. + +EZE 31:13 Upon his ruin shall all the fowls of the heaven remain, and all the + beasts of the field shall be upon his branches: + +EZE 31:14 To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves + for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither + their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all + delivered unto death, to the nether parts of the earth, in the midst of the + children of men, with them that go down to the pit. + +EZE 31:15 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I + caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods + thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for + him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him. + +EZE 31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast + him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of + Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be + comforted in the nether parts of the earth. + +EZE 31:17 They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with + the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the + midst of the heathen. + +EZE 31:18 To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees + of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the + nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised + with them that be slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, + saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 32:1 And it came to pass in the twelfth year, in the twelfth month, in the + first day of the month, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 32:2 Son of man, take up a lamentation for Pharaoh king of Egypt, and say + unto him, Thou art like a young lion of the nations, and thou art as a whale + in the seas: and thou camest forth with thy rivers, and troubledst the waters + with thy feet, and fouledst their rivers. + +EZE 32:3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will therefore spread out my net over thee + with a company of many people; and they shall bring thee up in my net. + +EZE 32:4 Then will I leave thee upon the land, I will cast thee forth upon the + open field, and will cause all the fowls of the heaven to remain upon + thee, and I will fill the beasts of the whole earth with thee. + +EZE 32:5 And I will lay thy flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys + with thy height. + +EZE 32:6 I will also water with thy blood the land wherein thou swimmest, even + to the mountains; and the rivers shall be full of thee. + +EZE 32:7 And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the + stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not + give her light. + +EZE 32:8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set + darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 32:9 I will also vex the hearts of many people, when I shall bring thy + destruction among the nations, into the countries which thou hast not known. + +EZE 32:10 Yea, I will make many people amazed at thee, and their kings shall + be horribly afraid for thee, when I shall brandish my sword before them; and + they shall tremble at every moment, every man for his own life, in the day of + thy fall. + +EZE 32:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD; The sword of the king of Babylon shall + come upon thee. + +EZE 32:12 By the swords of the mighty will I cause thy multitude to fall, the + terrible of the nations, all of them: and they shall spoil the pomp of + Egypt, and all the multitude thereof shall be destroyed. + +EZE 32:13 I will destroy also all the beasts thereof from beside the great + waters; neither shall the foot of man trouble them any more, nor the hoofs of + beasts trouble them. + +EZE 32:14 Then will I make their waters deep, and cause their rivers to run + like oil, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 32:15 When I shall make the land of Egypt desolate, and the country shall + be destitute of that whereof it was full, when I shall smite all them that + dwell therein, then shall they know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 32:16 This is the lamentation wherewith they shall lament her: the + daughters of the nations shall lament her: they shall lament for her, even + for Egypt, and for all her multitude, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 32:17 It came to pass also in the twelfth year, in the fifteenth day + of the month, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 32:18 Son of man, wail for the multitude of Egypt, and cast them down, + even her, and the daughters of the famous nations, unto the nether parts + of the earth, with them that go down into the pit. + +EZE 32:19 Whom dost thou pass in beauty? go down, and be thou laid with the + uncircumcised. + +EZE 32:20 They shall fall in the midst of them that are slain by the sword: + she is delivered to the sword: draw her and all her multitudes. + +EZE 32:21 The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of + hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, + slain by the sword. + +EZE 32:22 Asshur is there and all her company: his graves are about him: all + of them slain, fallen by the sword: + +EZE 32:23 Whose graves are set in the sides of the pit, and her company is + round about her grave: all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which caused + terror in the land of the living. + +EZE 32:24 There is Elam and all her multitude round about her grave, all + of them slain, fallen by the sword, which are gone down uncircumcised into + the nether parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the + living; yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit. + +EZE 32:25 They have set her a bed in the midst of the slain with all her + multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain + by the sword: though their terror was caused in the land of the living, yet + have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit: he is put + in the midst of them that be slain. + +EZE 32:26 There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round + about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused + their terror in the land of the living. + +EZE 32:27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the + uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and + they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be + upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land + of the living. + +EZE 32:28 Yea, thou shalt be broken in the midst of the uncircumcised, and + shalt lie with them that are slain with the sword. + +EZE 32:29 There is Edom, her kings, and all her princes, which with their + might are laid by them that were slain by the sword: they shall lie with the + uncircumcised, and with them that go down to the pit. + +EZE 32:30 There be the princes of the north, all of them, and all the + Zidonians, which are gone down with the slain; with their terror they are + ashamed of their might; and they lie uncircumcised with them that be slain by + the sword, and bear their shame with them that go down to the pit. + +EZE 32:31 Pharaoh shall see them, and shall be comforted over all his + multitude, even Pharaoh and all his army slain by the sword, saith the Lord + GOD. + +EZE 32:32 For I have caused my terror in the land of the living: and he shall + be laid in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that are slain with the + sword, even Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 33:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 33:2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, + When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man + of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: + +EZE 33:3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the + trumpet, and warn the people; + +EZE 33:4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not + warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his + own head. + +EZE 33:5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood + shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. + +EZE 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and + the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among + them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the + watchman's hand. + +EZE 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of + Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from + me. + +EZE 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if + thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall + die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. + +EZE 33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if + he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast + delivered thy soul. + +EZE 33:10 Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus + ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine + away in them, how should we then live? + +EZE 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure + in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: + turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? + +EZE 33:12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The + righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his + transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby + in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous + be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth. + +EZE 33:13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he + trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses + shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he + shall die for it. + +EZE 33:14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn + from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; + +EZE 33:15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, + walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely + live, he shall not die. + +EZE 33:16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: + he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live. + +EZE 33:17 Yet the children of thy people say, The way of the Lord is not + equal: but as for them, their way is not equal. + +EZE 33:18 When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth + iniquity, he shall even die thereby. + +EZE 33:19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is + lawful and right, he shall live thereby. + +EZE 33:20 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, + I will judge you every one after his ways. + +EZE 33:21 And it came to pass in the twelfth year of our captivity, in the + tenth month, in the fifth day of the month, that one that had escaped out of + Jerusalem came unto me, saying, The city is smitten. + +EZE 33:22 Now the hand of the LORD was upon me in the evening, afore he that + was escaped came; and had opened my mouth, until he came to me in the + morning; and my mouth was opened, and I was no more dumb. + +EZE 33:23 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 33:24 Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel + speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; + the land is given us for inheritance. + +EZE 33:25 Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Ye eat with the + blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye + possess the land? + +EZE 33:26 Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every + one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land? + +EZE 33:27 Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely + they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the + open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the + forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence. + +EZE 33:28 For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength + shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall + pass through. + +EZE 33:29 Then shall they know that I am the LORD, when I have laid the land + most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed. + +EZE 33:30 Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking + against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to + another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is + the word that cometh forth from the LORD. + +EZE 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before + thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for + with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their + covetousness. + +EZE 33:32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a + pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, + but they do them not. + +EZE 33:33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they + know that a prophet hath been among them. + +EZE 34:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 34:2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and + say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the + shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed + the flocks? + +EZE 34:3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that + are fed: but ye feed not the flock. + +EZE 34:4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that + which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have + ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that + which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them. + +EZE 34:5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they + became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered. + +EZE 34:6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high + hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none + did search or seek after them. + +EZE 34:7 Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; + +EZE 34:8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a + prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was + no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds + fed themselves, and fed not my flock; + +EZE 34:9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; + +EZE 34:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I + will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the + flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will + deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them. + +EZE 34:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my + sheep, and seek them out. + +EZE 34:12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his + sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them + out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. + +EZE 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the + countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the + mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the + country. + +EZE 34:14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of + Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat + pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel. + +EZE 34:15 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the + Lord GOD. + +EZE 34:16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was + driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that + which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them + with judgment. + +EZE 34:17 And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge + between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats. + +EZE 34:18 Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, + but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to + have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet? + +EZE 34:19 And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your + feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet. + +EZE 34:20 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will + judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle. + +EZE 34:21 Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all + the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad; + +EZE 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; + and I will judge between cattle and cattle. + +EZE 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, + even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. + +EZE 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince + among them; I the LORD have spoken it. + +EZE 34:25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the + evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the + wilderness, and sleep in the woods. + +EZE 34:26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; + and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be + showers of blessing. + +EZE 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall + yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that + I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them + out of the hand of those that served themselves of them. + +EZE 34:28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the + beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall + make them afraid. + +EZE 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no + more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen + any more. + +EZE 34:30 Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with them, and + that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 34:31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your + God, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 35:1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 35:2 Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it, + +EZE 35:3 And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O mount Seir, I am + against thee, and I will stretch out mine hand against thee, and I will make + thee most desolate. + +EZE 35:4 I will lay thy cities waste, and thou shalt be desolate, and thou + shalt know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 35:5 Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood + of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their + calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end: + +EZE 35:6 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto + blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even + blood shall pursue thee. + +EZE 35:7 Thus will I make mount Seir most desolate, and cut off from it him + that passeth out and him that returneth. + +EZE 35:8 And I will fill his mountains with his slain men: in thy hills, and + in thy valleys, and in all thy rivers, shall they fall that are slain with + the sword. + +EZE 35:9 I will make thee perpetual desolations, and thy cities shall not + return: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 35:10 Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries + shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there: + +EZE 35:11 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according + to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy + hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have + judged thee. + +EZE 35:12 And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all + thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, + saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume. + +EZE 35:13 Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied + your words against me: I have heard them. + +EZE 35:14 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When the whole earth rejoiceth, I will make + thee desolate. + +EZE 35:15 As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, + because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O + mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the + LORD. + +EZE 36:1 Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and + say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD: + +EZE 36:2 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the enemy hath said against you, + Aha, even the ancient high places are ours in possession: + +EZE 36:3 Therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they + have made you desolate, and swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be + a possession unto the residue of the heathen, and ye are taken up in the lips + of talkers, and are an infamy of the people: + +EZE 36:4 Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; + Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, + and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are + forsaken, which became a prey and derision to the residue of the heathen that + are round about; + +EZE 36:5 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy + have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, + which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their + heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey. + +EZE 36:6 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the + mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith + the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye + have borne the shame of the heathen: + +EZE 36:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely + the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame. + +EZE 36:8 But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your + branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand + to come. + +EZE 36:9 For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be + tilled and sown: + +EZE 36:10 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all + of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded: + +EZE 36:11 And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase + and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do + better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the + LORD. + +EZE 36:12 Yea, I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel; and + they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance, and thou shalt + no more henceforth bereave them of men. + +EZE 36:13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you, Thou land + devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations: + +EZE 36:14 Therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nations + any more, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 36:15 Neither will I cause men to hear in thee the shame of the heathen + any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, + neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 36:16 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 36:17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they + defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as + the uncleanness of a removed woman. + +EZE 36:18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had + shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it: + +EZE 36:19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed + through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I + judged them. + +EZE 36:20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they + profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the + LORD, and are gone forth out of his land. + +EZE 36:21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had + profaned among the heathen, whither they went. + +EZE 36:22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; I + do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, + which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. + +EZE 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the + heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall + know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in + you before their eyes. + +EZE 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of + all countries, and will bring you into your own land. + +EZE 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: + from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. + +EZE 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within + you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give + you an heart of flesh. + +EZE 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my + statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. + +EZE 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye + shall be my people, and I will be your God. + +EZE 36:29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call + for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you. + +EZE 36:30 And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the + field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen. + +EZE 36:31 Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were + not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities + and for your abominations. + +EZE 36:32 Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto + you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel. + +EZE 36:33 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you + from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and + the wastes shall be builded. + +EZE 36:34 And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate + in the sight of all that passed by. + +EZE 36:35 And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the + garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become + fenced, and are inhabited. + +EZE 36:36 Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the + LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD + have spoken it, and I will do it. + +EZE 36:37 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the + house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a + flock. + +EZE 36:38 As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; + so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know + that I am the LORD. + +EZE 37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit + of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of + bones, + +EZE 37:2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were + very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry. + +EZE 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I + answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest. + +EZE 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, + O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. + +EZE 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath + to enter into you, and ye shall live: + +EZE 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and + cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall + know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 37:7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a + noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. + +EZE 37:8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon + them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them. + +EZE 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of + man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, + O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. + +EZE 37:10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into + them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. + +EZE 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of + Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are + cut off for our parts. + +EZE 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; + Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of + your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. + +EZE 37:13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your + graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, + +EZE 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place + you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and + performed it, saith the LORD. + +EZE 37:15 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, + +EZE 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, + For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another + stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the + house of Israel his companions: + +EZE 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become + one in thine hand. + +EZE 37:18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, + Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? + +EZE 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the + stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel + his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and + make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. + +EZE 37:20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before + their eyes. + +EZE 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the + children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will + gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: + +EZE 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of + Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two + nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all. + +EZE 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor + with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I + will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and + will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. + +EZE 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall + have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my + statutes, and do them. + +EZE 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my + servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even + they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my + servant David shall be their prince for ever. + +EZE 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an + everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and + will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. + +EZE 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and + they shall be my people. + +EZE 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when + my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore. + +EZE 38:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, + +EZE 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief + prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, + +EZE 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O + Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: + +EZE 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will + bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them + clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and + shields, all of them handling swords: + +EZE 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and + helmet: + +EZE 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north + quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee. + +EZE 38:7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company + that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them. + +EZE 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt + come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out + of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always + waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell + safely all of them. + +EZE 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud + to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee. + +EZE 38:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the + same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil + thought: + +EZE 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I + will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling + without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, + +EZE 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the + desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered + out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the + midst of the land. + +EZE 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young + lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou + gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take + away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? + +EZE 38:14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the + Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou + not know it? + +EZE 38:15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and + many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a + mighty army: + +EZE 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to + cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against + my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O + Gog, before their eyes. + +EZE 38:17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old + time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days + many years that I would bring thee against them? + +EZE 38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come + against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in + my face. + +EZE 38:19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely + in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; + +EZE 38:20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the + beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and + all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my + presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall + fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. + +EZE 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, + saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. + +EZE 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I + will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are + with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. + +EZE 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known + in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 39:1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith + the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech + and Tubal: + +EZE 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and + will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the + mountains of Israel: + +EZE 39:3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine + arrows to fall out of thy right hand. + +EZE 39:4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy + bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous + birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. + +EZE 39:5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the + Lord GOD. + +EZE 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly + in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. + +EZE 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; + and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall + know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. + +EZE 39:8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the + day whereof I have spoken. + +EZE 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall + set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows + and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them + with fire seven years: + +EZE 39:10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down + any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they + shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith + the Lord GOD. + +EZE 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a + place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east + of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall + they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of + Hamongog. + +EZE 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that + they may cleanse the land. + +EZE 39:13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be + to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 39:14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing + through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face + of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search. + +EZE 39:15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a + man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried + it in the valley of Hamongog. + +EZE 39:16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they + cleanse the land. + +EZE 39:17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every + feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and + come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for + you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat + flesh, and drink blood. + +EZE 39:18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the + princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all + of them fatlings of Bashan. + +EZE 39:19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be + drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you. + +EZE 39:20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with + mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall + see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them. + +EZE 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from + that day and forward. + +EZE 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into + captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore + hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so + fell they all by the sword. + +EZE 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions + have I done unto them, and hid my face from them. + +EZE 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the + captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will + be jealous for my holy name; + +EZE 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses + whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their + land, and none made them afraid. + +EZE 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them + out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many + nations; + +EZE 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them + to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto + their own land, and have left none of them any more there. + +EZE 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured + out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 40:1 In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning + of the year, in the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after that + the city was smitten, in the selfsame day the hand of the LORD was upon + me, and brought me thither. + +EZE 40:2 In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set + me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the + south. + +EZE 40:3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose + appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his + hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate. + +EZE 40:4 And the man said unto me, Son of man, behold with thine eyes, and + hear with thine ears, and set thine heart upon all that I shall shew thee; + for to the intent that I might shew them unto thee art thou brought hither: + declare all that thou seest to the house of Israel. + +EZE 40:5 And behold a wall on the outside of the house round about, and in the + man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit and an hand + breadth: so he measured the breadth of the building, one reed; and the + height, one reed. + +EZE 40:6 Then came he unto the gate which looketh toward the east, and went up + the stairs thereof, and measured the threshold of the gate, which was one + reed broad; and the other threshold of the gate, which was one reed broad. + +EZE 40:7 And every little chamber was one reed long, and one reed broad; and + between the little chambers were five cubits; and the threshold of the gate + by the porch of the gate within was one reed. + +EZE 40:8 He measured also the porch of the gate within, one reed. + +EZE 40:9 Then measured he the porch of the gate, eight cubits; and the posts + thereof, two cubits; and the porch of the gate was inward. + +EZE 40:10 And the little chambers of the gate eastward were three on this + side, and three on that side; they three were of one measure: and the posts + had one measure on this side and on that side. + +EZE 40:11 And he measured the breadth of the entry of the gate, ten cubits; + and the length of the gate, thirteen cubits. + +EZE 40:12 The space also before the little chambers was one cubit on this + side, and the space was one cubit on that side: and the little chambers were + six cubits on this side, and six cubits on that side. + +EZE 40:13 He measured then the gate from the roof of one little chamber to the + roof of another: the breadth was five and twenty cubits, door against door. + +EZE 40:14 He made also posts of threescore cubits, even unto the post of the + court round about the gate. + +EZE 40:15 And from the face of the gate of the entrance unto the face of the + porch of the inner gate were fifty cubits. + +EZE 40:16 And there were narrow windows to the little chambers, and to their + posts within the gate round about, and likewise to the arches: and windows + were round about inward: and upon each post were palm trees. + +EZE 40:17 Then brought he me into the outward court, and, lo, there were + chambers, and a pavement made for the court round about: thirty chambers were + upon the pavement. + +EZE 40:18 And the pavement by the side of the gates over against the length + of the gates was the lower pavement. + +EZE 40:19 Then he measured the breadth from the forefront of the lower gate + unto the forefront of the inner court without, an hundred cubits eastward and + northward. + +EZE 40:20 And the gate of the outward court that looked toward the north, he + measured the length thereof, and the breadth thereof. + +EZE 40:21 And the little chambers thereof were three on this side and three on + that side; and the posts thereof and the arches thereof were after the + measure of the first gate: the length thereof was fifty cubits, and the + breadth five and twenty cubits. + +EZE 40:22 And their windows, and their arches, and their palm trees, were + after the measure of the gate that looketh toward the east; and they went up + unto it by seven steps; and the arches thereof were before them. + +EZE 40:23 And the gate of the inner court was over against the gate toward the + north, and toward the east; and he measured from gate to gate an hundred + cubits. + +EZE 40:24 After that he brought me toward the south, and behold a gate toward + the south: and he measured the posts thereof and the arches thereof according + to these measures. + +EZE 40:25 And there were windows in it and in the arches thereof round about, + like those windows: the length was fifty cubits, and the breadth five and + twenty cubits. + +EZE 40:26 And there were seven steps to go up to it, and the arches thereof + were before them: and it had palm trees, one on this side, and another on + that side, upon the posts thereof. + +EZE 40:27 And there was a gate in the inner court toward the south: and he + measured from gate to gate toward the south an hundred cubits. + +EZE 40:28 And he brought me to the inner court by the south gate: and he + measured the south gate according to these measures; + +EZE 40:29 And the little chambers thereof, and the posts thereof, and the + arches thereof, according to these measures: and there were windows in it and + in the arches thereof round about: it was fifty cubits long, and five and + twenty cubits broad. + +EZE 40:30 And the arches round about were five and twenty cubits long, and + five cubits broad. + +EZE 40:31 And the arches thereof were toward the utter court; and palm trees + were upon the posts thereof: and the going up to it had eight steps. + +EZE 40:32 And he brought me into the inner court toward the east: and he + measured the gate according to these measures. + +EZE 40:33 And the little chambers thereof, and the posts thereof, and the + arches thereof, were according to these measures: and there were windows + therein and in the arches thereof round about: it was fifty cubits long, and + five and twenty cubits broad. + +EZE 40:34 And the arches thereof were toward the outward court; and palm trees + were upon the posts thereof, on this side, and on that side: and the going up + to it had eight steps. + +EZE 40:35 And he brought me to the north gate, and measured it according + to these measures; + +EZE 40:36 The little chambers thereof, the posts thereof, and the arches + thereof, and the windows to it round about: the length was fifty cubits, and + the breadth five and twenty cubits. + +EZE 40:37 And the posts thereof were toward the utter court; and palm trees + were upon the posts thereof, on this side, and on that side: and the going up + to it had eight steps. + +EZE 40:38 And the chambers and the entries thereof were by the posts of the + gates, where they washed the burnt offering. + +EZE 40:39 And in the porch of the gate were two tables on this side, and two + tables on that side, to slay thereon the burnt offering and the sin offering + and the trespass offering. + +EZE 40:40 And at the side without, as one goeth up to the entry of the north + gate, were two tables; and on the other side, which was at the porch of the + gate, were two tables. + +EZE 40:41 Four tables were on this side, and four tables on that side, by the + side of the gate; eight tables, whereupon they slew their sacrifices. + +EZE 40:42 And the four tables were of hewn stone for the burnt offering, of a + cubit and an half long, and a cubit and an half broad, and one cubit high: + whereupon also they laid the instruments wherewith they slew the burnt + offering and the sacrifice. + +EZE 40:43 And within were hooks, an hand broad, fastened round about: and upon + the tables was the flesh of the offering. + +EZE 40:44 And without the inner gate were the chambers of the singers in the + inner court, which was at the side of the north gate; and their prospect was + toward the south: one at the side of the east gate having the prospect toward + the north. + +EZE 40:45 And he said unto me, This chamber, whose prospect is toward the + south, is for the priests, the keepers of the charge of the house. + +EZE 40:46 And the chamber whose prospect is toward the north is for the + priests, the keepers of the charge of the altar: these are the sons of Zadok + among the sons of Levi, which come near to the LORD to minister unto him. + +EZE 40:47 So he measured the court, an hundred cubits long, and an hundred + cubits broad, foursquare; and the altar that was before the house. + +EZE 40:48 And he brought me to the porch of the house, and measured each post + of the porch, five cubits on this side, and five cubits on that side: and the + breadth of the gate was three cubits on this side, and three cubits on that + side. + +EZE 40:49 The length of the porch was twenty cubits, and the breadth eleven + cubits, and he brought me by the steps whereby they went up to it: and there + were pillars by the posts, one on this side, and another on that side. + +EZE 41:1 Afterward he brought me to the temple, and measured the posts, six + cubits broad on the one side, and six cubits broad on the other side, which + was the breadth of the tabernacle. + +EZE 41:2 And the breadth of the door was ten cubits; and the sides of the door + were five cubits on the one side, and five cubits on the other side: and he + measured the length thereof, forty cubits: and the breadth, twenty cubits. + +EZE 41:3 Then went he inward, and measured the post of the door, two cubits; + and the door, six cubits; and the breadth of the door, seven cubits. + +EZE 41:4 So he measured the length thereof, twenty cubits; and the breadth, + twenty cubits, before the temple: and he said unto me, This is the most holy + place. + +EZE 41:5 After he measured the wall of the house, six cubits; and the breadth + of every side chamber, four cubits, round about the house on every side. + +EZE 41:6 And the side chambers were three, one over another, and thirty in + order; and they entered into the wall which was of the house for the side + chambers round about, that they might have hold, but they had not hold in the + wall of the house. + +EZE 41:7 And there was an enlarging, and a winding about still upward to the + side chambers: for the winding about of the house went still upward round + about the house: therefore the breadth of the house was still upward, and so + increased from the lowest chamber to the highest by the midst. + +EZE 41:8 I saw also the height of the house round about: the foundations + of the side chambers were a full reed of six great cubits. + +EZE 41:9 The thickness of the wall, which was for the side chamber without, + was five cubits: and that which was left was the place of the side chambers + that were within. + +EZE 41:10 And between the chambers was the wideness of twenty cubits round + about the house on every side. + +EZE 41:11 And the doors of the side chambers were toward the place that was + left, one door toward the north, and another door toward the south: and the + breadth of the place that was left was five cubits round about. + +EZE 41:12 Now the building that was before the separate place at the end + toward the west was seventy cubits broad; and the wall of the building was + five cubits thick round about, and the length thereof ninety cubits. + +EZE 41:13 So he measured the house, an hundred cubits long; and the separate + place, and the building, with the walls thereof, an hundred cubits long; + +EZE 41:14 Also the breadth of the face of the house, and of the separate place + toward the east, an hundred cubits. + +EZE 41:15 And he measured the length of the building over against the separate + place which was behind it, and the galleries thereof on the one side and on + the other side, an hundred cubits, with the inner temple, and the porches + of the court; + +EZE 41:16 The door posts, and the narrow windows, and the galleries round + about on their three stories, over against the door, cieled with wood round + about, and from the ground up to the windows, and the windows were covered; + +EZE 41:17 To that above the door, even unto the inner house, and without, and + by all the wall round about within and without, by measure. + +EZE 41:18 And it was made with cherubims and palm trees, so that a palm tree + was between a cherub and a cherub; and every cherub had two faces; + +EZE 41:19 So that the face of a man was toward the palm tree on the one + side, and the face of a young lion toward the palm tree on the other side: it + was made through all the house round about. + +EZE 41:20 From the ground unto above the door were cherubims and palm trees + made, and on the wall of the temple. + +EZE 41:21 The posts of the temple were squared, and the face of the sanctuary; + the appearance of the one as the appearance of the other. + +EZE 41:22 The altar of wood was three cubits high, and the length thereof two + cubits; and the corners thereof, and the length thereof, and the walls + thereof, were of wood: and he said unto me, This is the table that is before + the LORD. + +EZE 41:23 And the temple and the sanctuary had two doors. + +EZE 41:24 And the doors had two leaves apiece, two turning leaves; two leaves + for the one door, and two leaves for the other door. + +EZE 41:25 And there were made on them, on the doors of the temple, cherubims + and palm trees, like as were made upon the walls; and there were thick planks + upon the face of the porch without. + +EZE 41:26 And there were narrow windows and palm trees on the one side and on + the other side, on the sides of the porch, and upon the side chambers of the + house, and thick planks. + +EZE 42:1 Then he brought me forth into the utter court, the way toward the + north: and he brought me into the chamber that was over against the separate + place, and which was before the building toward the north. + +EZE 42:2 Before the length of an hundred cubits was the north door, and the + breadth was fifty cubits. + +EZE 42:3 Over against the twenty cubits which were for the inner court, and + over against the pavement which was for the utter court, was gallery against + gallery in three stories. + +EZE 42:4 And before the chambers was a walk to ten cubits breadth inward, a + way of one cubit; and their doors toward the north. + +EZE 42:5 Now the upper chambers were shorter: for the galleries were higher + than these, than the lower, and than the middlemost of the building. + +EZE 42:6 For they were in three stories, but had not pillars as the pillars + of the courts: therefore the building was straitened more than the lowest and + the middlemost from the ground. + +EZE 42:7 And the wall that was without over against the chambers, toward the + utter court on the forepart of the chambers, the length thereof was fifty + cubits. + +EZE 42:8 For the length of the chambers that were in the utter court was fifty + cubits: and, lo, before the temple were an hundred cubits. + +EZE 42:9 And from under these chambers was the entry on the east side, as one + goeth into them from the utter court. + +EZE 42:10 The chambers were in the thickness of the wall of the court toward + the east, over against the separate place, and over against the building. + +EZE 42:11 And the way before them was like the appearance of the chambers + which were toward the north, as long as they, and as broad as they: and all + their goings out were both according to their fashions, and according + to their doors. + +EZE 42:12 And according to the doors of the chambers that were toward the + south was a door in the head of the way, even the way directly before the + wall toward the east, as one entereth into them. + +EZE 42:13 Then said he unto me, The north chambers and the south chambers, + which are before the separate place, they be holy chambers, where the priests + that approach unto the LORD shall eat the most holy things: there shall they + lay the most holy things, and the meat offering, and the sin offering, and + the trespass offering; for the place is holy. + +EZE 42:14 When the priests enter therein, then shall they not go out of the + holy place into the utter court, but there they shall lay their garments + wherein they minister; for they are holy; and shall put on other garments, + and shall approach to those things which are for the people. + +EZE 42:15 Now when he had made an end of measuring the inner house, he brought + me forth toward the gate whose prospect is toward the east, and measured it + round about. + +EZE 42:16 He measured the east side with the measuring reed, five hundred + reeds, with the measuring reed round about. + +EZE 42:17 He measured the north side, five hundred reeds, with the measuring + reed round about. + +EZE 42:18 He measured the south side, five hundred reeds, with the measuring + reed. + +EZE 42:19 He turned about to the west side, and measured five hundred reeds + with the measuring reed. + +EZE 42:20 He measured it by the four sides: it had a wall round about, five + hundred reeds long, and five hundred broad, to make a separation between the + sanctuary and the profane place. + +EZE 43:1 Afterward he brought me to the gate, even the gate that looketh + toward the east: + +EZE 43:2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the + east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined + with his glory. + +EZE 43:3 And it was according to the appearance of the vision which I saw, + even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city: and + the visions were like the vision that I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell + upon my face. + +EZE 43:4 And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate + whose prospect is toward the east. + +EZE 43:5 So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, + behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house. + +EZE 43:6 And I heard him speaking unto me out of the house; and the man stood + by me. + +EZE 43:7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the + place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the + children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no + more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the + carcases of their kings in their high places. + +EZE 43:8 In their setting of their threshold by my thresholds, and their post + by my posts, and the wall between me and them, they have even defiled my holy + name by their abominations that they have committed: wherefore I have + consumed them in mine anger. + +EZE 43:9 Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their + kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever. + +EZE 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they + may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern. + +EZE 43:11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the + form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and + the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances + thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it + in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the + ordinances thereof, and do them. + +EZE 43:12 This is the law of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole + limit thereof round about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the + house. + +EZE 43:13 And these are the measures of the altar after the cubits: The cubit + is a cubit and an hand breadth; even the bottom shall be a cubit, and the + breadth a cubit, and the border thereof by the edge thereof round about shall + be a span: and this shall be the higher place of the altar. + +EZE 43:14 And from the bottom upon the ground even to the lower settle shall + be two cubits, and the breadth one cubit; and from the lesser settle even + to the greater settle shall be four cubits, and the breadth one cubit. + +EZE 43:15 So the altar shall be four cubits; and from the altar and upward + shall be four horns. + +EZE 43:16 And the altar shall be twelve cubits long, twelve broad, square + in the four squares thereof. + +EZE 43:17 And the settle shall be fourteen cubits long and fourteen broad + in the four squares thereof; and the border about it shall be half a cubit; + and the bottom thereof shall be a cubit about; and his stairs shall look + toward the east. + +EZE 43:18 And he said unto me, Son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; These are + the ordinances of the altar in the day when they shall make it, to offer + burnt offerings thereon, and to sprinkle blood thereon. + +EZE 43:19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed + of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord GOD, a + young bullock for a sin offering. + +EZE 43:20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four + horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round + about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it. + +EZE 43:21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall + burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary. + +EZE 43:22 And on the second day thou shalt offer a kid of the goats without + blemish for a sin offering; and they shall cleanse the altar, as they did + cleanse it with the bullock. + +EZE 43:23 When thou hast made an end of cleansing it, thou shalt offer a young + bullock without blemish, and a ram out of the flock without blemish. + +EZE 43:24 And thou shalt offer them before the LORD, and the priests shall + cast salt upon them, and they shall offer them up for a burnt offering unto + the LORD. + +EZE 43:25 Seven days shalt thou prepare every day a goat for a sin offering: + they shall also prepare a young bullock, and a ram out of the flock, without + blemish. + +EZE 43:26 Seven days shall they purge the altar and purify it; and they shall + consecrate themselves. + +EZE 43:27 And when these days are expired, it shall be, that upon the eighth + day, and so forward, the priests shall make your burnt offerings upon the + altar, and your peace offerings; and I will accept you, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 44:1 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary + which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. + +EZE 44:2 Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be + opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, + hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. + +EZE 44:3 It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread + before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and + shall go out by the way of the same. + +EZE 44:4 Then brought he me the way of the north gate before the house: and I + looked, and, behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD: and + I fell upon my face. + +EZE 44:5 And the LORD said unto me, Son of man, mark well, and behold with + thine eyes, and hear with thine ears all that I say unto thee concerning all + the ordinances of the house of the LORD, and all the laws thereof; and mark + well the entering in of the house, with every going forth of the sanctuary. + +EZE 44:6 And thou shalt say to the rebellious, even to the house of Israel, + Thus saith the Lord GOD; O ye house of Israel, let it suffice you of all your + abominations, + +EZE 44:7 In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in + heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even + my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken + my covenant because of all your abominations. + +EZE 44:8 And ye have not kept the charge of mine holy things: but ye have set + keepers of my charge in my sanctuary for yourselves. + +EZE 44:9 Thus saith the Lord GOD; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor + uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that + is among the children of Israel. + +EZE 44:10 And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went + astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even + bear their iniquity. + +EZE 44:11 Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the + gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt + offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them + to minister unto them. + +EZE 44:12 Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the + house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand + against them, saith the Lord GOD, and they shall bear their iniquity. + +EZE 44:13 And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest + unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: + but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have + committed. + +EZE 44:14 But I will make them keepers of the charge of the house, for all the + service thereof, and for all that shall be done therein. + +EZE 44:15 But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge + of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall + come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer + unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD: + +EZE 44:16 They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my + table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge. + +EZE 44:17 And it shall come to pass, that when they enter in at the gates + of the inner court, they shall be clothed with linen garments; and no wool + shall come upon them, whiles they minister in the gates of the inner + court, and within. + +EZE 44:18 They shall have linen bonnets upon their heads, and shall have linen + breeches upon their loins; they shall not gird themselves with any thing that + causeth sweat. + +EZE 44:19 And when they go forth into the utter court, even into the utter + court to the people, they shall put off their garments wherein they + ministered, and lay them in the holy chambers, and they shall put on other + garments; and they shall not sanctify the people with their garments. + +EZE 44:20 Neither shall they shave their heads, nor suffer their locks to grow + long; they shall only poll their heads. + +EZE 44:21 Neither shall any priest drink wine, when they enter into the inner + court. + +EZE 44:22 Neither shall they take for their wives a widow, nor her that is put + away: but they shall take maidens of the seed of the house of Israel, or a + widow that had a priest before. + +EZE 44:23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and + profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. + +EZE 44:24 And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall + judge it according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my + statutes in all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths. + +EZE 44:25 And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for + father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for + sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves. + +EZE 44:26 And after he is cleansed, they shall reckon unto him seven days. + +EZE 44:27 And in the day that he goeth into the sanctuary, unto the inner + court, to minister in the sanctuary, he shall offer his sin offering, saith + the Lord GOD. + +EZE 44:28 And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their + inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their + possession. + +EZE 44:29 They shall eat the meat offering, and the sin offering, and the + trespass offering: and every dedicated thing in Israel shall be theirs. + +EZE 44:30 And the first of all the firstfruits of all things, and every + oblation of all, of every sort of your oblations, shall be the priest's: ye + shall also give unto the priest the first of your dough, that he may cause + the blessing to rest in thine house. + +EZE 44:31 The priests shall not eat of any thing that is dead of itself, or + torn, whether it be fowl or beast. + +EZE 45:1 Moreover, when ye shall divide by lot the land for inheritance, ye + shall offer an oblation unto the LORD, an holy portion of the land: the + length shall be the length of five and twenty thousand reeds, and the breadth + shall be ten thousand. This shall be holy in all the borders thereof round + about. + +EZE 45:2 Of this there shall be for the sanctuary five hundred in length, with + five hundred in breadth, square round about; and fifty cubits round about for + the suburbs thereof. + +EZE 45:3 And of this measure shalt thou measure the length of five and twenty + thousand, and the breadth of ten thousand: and in it shall be the sanctuary + and the most holy place. + +EZE 45:4 The holy portion of the land shall be for the priests the ministers + of the sanctuary, which shall come near to minister unto the LORD: and it + shall be a place for their houses, and an holy place for the sanctuary. + +EZE 45:5 And the five and twenty thousand of length, and the ten thousand of + breadth shall also the Levites, the ministers of the house, have for + themselves, for a possession for twenty chambers. + +EZE 45:6 And ye shall appoint the possession of the city five thousand + broad, and five and twenty thousand long, over against the oblation of the + holy portion: it shall be for the whole house of Israel. + +EZE 45:7 And a portion shall be for the prince on the one side and on the + other side of the oblation of the holy portion, and of the possession of the + city, before the oblation of the holy portion, and before the possession + of the city, from the west side westward, and from the east side eastward: + and the length shall be over against one of the portions, from the west + border unto the east border. + +EZE 45:8 In the land shall be his possession in Israel: and my princes shall + no more oppress my people; and the rest of the land shall they give to the + house of Israel according to their tribes. + +EZE 45:9 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Let it suffice you, O princes of Israel: + remove violence and spoil, and execute judgment and justice, take away your + exactions from my people, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 45:10 Ye shall have just balances, and a just ephah, and a just bath. + +EZE 45:11 The ephah and the bath shall be of one measure, that the bath may + contain the tenth part of an homer, and the ephah the tenth part of an homer: + the measure thereof shall be after the homer. + +EZE 45:12 And the shekel shall be twenty gerahs: twenty shekels, five and + twenty shekels, fifteen shekels, shall be your maneh. + +EZE 45:13 This is the oblation that ye shall offer; the sixth part of an ephah + of an homer of wheat, and ye shall give the sixth part of an ephah of an + homer of barley: + +EZE 45:14 Concerning the ordinance of oil, the bath of oil, ye shall offer the + tenth part of a bath out of the cor, which is an homer of ten baths; for ten + baths are an homer: + +EZE 45:15 And one lamb out of the flock, out of two hundred, out of the fat + pastures of Israel; for a meat offering, and for a burnt offering, and for + peace offerings, to make reconciliation for them, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 45:16 All the people of the land shall give this oblation for the prince + in Israel. + +EZE 45:17 And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat + offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and + in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare + the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the + peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. + +EZE 45:18 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the + month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the + sanctuary: + +EZE 45:19 And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering, and put + it upon the posts of the house, and upon the four corners of the settle + of the altar, and upon the posts of the gate of the inner court. + +EZE 45:20 And so thou shalt do the seventh day of the month for every one that + erreth, and for him that is simple: so shall ye reconcile the house. + +EZE 45:21 In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall + have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten. + +EZE 45:22 And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all + the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering. + +EZE 45:23 And seven days of the feast he shall prepare a burnt offering to the + LORD, seven bullocks and seven rams without blemish daily the seven days; and + a kid of the goats daily for a sin offering. + +EZE 45:24 And he shall prepare a meat offering of an ephah for a bullock, and + an ephah for a ram, and an hin of oil for an ephah. + +EZE 45:25 In the seventh month, in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do + the like in the feast of the seven days, according to the sin offering, + according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and + according to the oil. + +EZE 46:1 Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh + toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it + shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened. + +EZE 46:2 And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate + without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall + prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at + the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be + shut until the evening. + +EZE 46:3 Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this + gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons. + +EZE 46:4 And the burnt offering that the prince shall offer unto the LORD + in the sabbath day shall be six lambs without blemish, and a ram without + blemish. + +EZE 46:5 And the meat offering shall be an ephah for a ram, and the meat + offering for the lambs as he shall be able to give, and an hin of oil to an + ephah. + +EZE 46:6 And in the day of the new moon it shall be a young bullock without + blemish, and six lambs, and a ram: they shall be without blemish. + +EZE 46:7 And he shall prepare a meat offering, an ephah for a bullock, and an + ephah for a ram, and for the lambs according as his hand shall attain + unto, and an hin of oil to an ephah. + +EZE 46:8 And when the prince shall enter, he shall go in by the way of the + porch of that gate, and he shall go forth by the way thereof. + +EZE 46:9 But when the people of the land shall come before the LORD in the + solemn feasts, he that entereth in by the way of the north gate to worship + shall go out by the way of the south gate; and he that entereth by the way + of the south gate shall go forth by the way of the north gate: he shall not + return by the way of the gate whereby he came in, but shall go forth over + against it. + +EZE 46:10 And the prince in the midst of them, when they go in, shall go in; + and when they go forth, shall go forth. + +EZE 46:11 And in the feasts and in the solemnities the meat offering shall be + an ephah to a bullock, and an ephah to a ram, and to the lambs as he is able + to give, and an hin of oil to an ephah. + +EZE 46:12 Now when the prince shall prepare a voluntary burnt offering or + peace offerings voluntarily unto the LORD, one shall then open him the gate + that looketh toward the east, and he shall prepare his burnt offering and his + peace offerings, as he did on the sabbath day: then he shall go forth; and + after his going forth one shall shut the gate. + +EZE 46:13 Thou shalt daily prepare a burnt offering unto the LORD of a lamb + of the first year without blemish: thou shalt prepare it every morning. + +EZE 46:14 And thou shalt prepare a meat offering for it every morning, the + sixth part of an ephah, and the third part of an hin of oil, to temper with + the fine flour; a meat offering continually by a perpetual ordinance unto the + LORD. + +EZE 46:15 Thus shall they prepare the lamb, and the meat offering, and the + oil, every morning for a continual burnt offering. + +EZE 46:16 Thus saith the Lord GOD; If the prince give a gift unto any of his + sons, the inheritance thereof shall be his sons'; it shall be their + possession by inheritance. + +EZE 46:17 But if he give a gift of his inheritance to one of his + servants, then it shall be his to the year of liberty; after it shall return + to the prince: but his inheritance shall be his sons' for them. + +EZE 46:18 Moreover the prince shall not take of the people's inheritance by + oppression, to thrust them out of their possession; but he shall give his + sons inheritance out of his own possession: that my people be not scattered + every man from his possession. + +EZE 46:19 After he brought me through the entry, which was at the side of the + gate, into the holy chambers of the priests, which looked toward the north: + and, behold, there was a place on the two sides westward. + +EZE 46:20 Then said he unto me, This is the place where the priests shall boil + the trespass offering and the sin offering, where they shall bake the meat + offering; that they bear them not out into the utter court, to sanctify the + people. + +EZE 46:21 Then he brought me forth into the utter court, and caused me to pass + by the four corners of the court; and, behold, in every corner of the court + there was a court. + +EZE 46:22 In the four corners of the court there were courts joined of forty + cubits long and thirty broad: these four corners were of one measure. + +EZE 46:23 And there was a row of building round about in them, round about + them four, and it was made with boiling places under the rows round about. + +EZE 46:24 Then said he unto me, These are the places of them that boil, where + the ministers of the house shall boil the sacrifice of the people. + +EZE 47:1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, + behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for + the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down + from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar. + +EZE 47:2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me + about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; + and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side. + +EZE 47:3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, + he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the + waters were to the ankles. + +EZE 47:4 Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the + waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me + through; the waters were to the loins. + +EZE 47:5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not + pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could + not be passed over. + +EZE 47:6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought + me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river. + +EZE 47:7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very + many trees on the one side and on the other. + +EZE 47:8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east + country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being + brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed. + +EZE 47:9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which + moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a + very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for + they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh. + +EZE 47:10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from + Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their + fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, + exceeding many. + +EZE 47:11 But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be + healed; they shall be given to salt. + +EZE 47:12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that + side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall + the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to + his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the + fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine. + +EZE 47:13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; This shall be the border, whereby ye shall + inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph shall have + two portions. + +EZE 47:14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another: concerning the + which I lifted up mine hand to give it unto your fathers: and this land shall + fall unto you for inheritance. + +EZE 47:15 And this shall be the border of the land toward the north side, from + the great sea, the way of Hethlon, as men go to Zedad; + +EZE 47:16 Hamath, Berothah, Sibraim, which is between the border of Damascus + and the border of Hamath; Hazarhatticon, which is by the coast of Hauran. + +EZE 47:17 And the border from the sea shall be Hazarenan, the border of + Damascus, and the north northward, and the border of Hamath. And this is the + north side. + +EZE 47:18 And the east side ye shall measure from Hauran, and from + Damascus, and from Gilead, and from the land of Israel by Jordan, from the + border unto the east sea. And this is the east side. + +EZE 47:19 And the south side southward, from Tamar even to the waters of + strife in Kadesh, the river to the great sea. And this is the south side + southward. + +EZE 47:20 The west side also shall be the great sea from the border, till a + man come over against Hamath. This is the west side. + +EZE 47:21 So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of + Israel. + +EZE 47:22 And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an + inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which + shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the + country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you + among the tribes of Israel. + +EZE 47:23 And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger + sojourneth, there shall ye give him his inheritance, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 48:1 Now these are the names of the tribes. From the north end to the + coast of the way of Hethlon, as one goeth to Hamath, Hazarenan, the border of + Damascus northward, to the coast of Hamath; for these are his sides east and + west; a portion for Dan. + +EZE 48:2 And by the border of Dan, from the east side unto the west side, a + portion for Asher. + +EZE 48:3 And by the border of Asher, from the east side even unto the west + side, a portion for Naphtali. + +EZE 48:4 And by the border of Naphtali, from the east side unto the west side, + a portion for Manasseh. + +EZE 48:5 And by the border of Manasseh, from the east side unto the west side, + a portion for Ephraim. + +EZE 48:6 And by the border of Ephraim, from the east side even unto the west + side, a portion for Reuben. + +EZE 48:7 And by the border of Reuben, from the east side unto the west side, a + portion for Judah. + +EZE 48:8 And by the border of Judah, from the east side unto the west side, + shall be the offering which ye shall offer of five and twenty thousand reeds + in breadth, and in length as one of the other parts, from the east side unto + the west side: and the sanctuary shall be in the midst of it. + +EZE 48:9 The oblation that ye shall offer unto the LORD shall be of five and + twenty thousand in length, and of ten thousand in breadth. + +EZE 48:10 And for them, even for the priests, shall be this holy oblation; + toward the north five and twenty thousand in length, and toward the west ten + thousand in breadth, and toward the east ten thousand in breadth, and toward + the south five and twenty thousand in length: and the sanctuary of the LORD + shall be in the midst thereof. + +EZE 48:11 It shall be for the priests that are sanctified of the sons of + Zadok; which have kept my charge, which went not astray when the children of + Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray. + +EZE 48:12 And this oblation of the land that is offered shall be unto them a + thing most holy by the border of the Levites. + +EZE 48:13 And over against the border of the priests the Levites shall have + five and twenty thousand in length, and ten thousand in breadth: all the + length shall be five and twenty thousand, and the breadth ten thousand. + +EZE 48:14 And they shall not sell of it, neither exchange, nor alienate the + firstfruits of the land: for it is holy unto the LORD. + +EZE 48:15 And the five thousand, that are left in the breadth over against the + five and twenty thousand, shall be a profane place for the city, for + dwelling, and for suburbs: and the city shall be in the midst thereof. + +EZE 48:16 And these shall be the measures thereof; the north side four + thousand and five hundred, and the south side four thousand and five + hundred, and on the east side four thousand and five hundred, and the west + side four thousand and five hundred. + +EZE 48:17 And the suburbs of the city shall be toward the north two hundred + and fifty, and toward the south two hundred and fifty, and toward the east + two hundred and fifty, and toward the west two hundred and fifty. + +EZE 48:18 And the residue in length over against the oblation of the holy + portion shall be ten thousand eastward, and ten thousand westward: and it + shall be over against the oblation of the holy portion; and the increase + thereof shall be for food unto them that serve the city. + +EZE 48:19 And they that serve the city shall serve it out of all the tribes of + Israel. + +EZE 48:20 All the oblation shall be five and twenty thousand by five and + twenty thousand: ye shall offer the holy oblation foursquare, with the + possession of the city. + +EZE 48:21 And the residue shall be for the prince, on the one side and on the + other of the holy oblation, and of the possession of the city, over against + the five and twenty thousand of the oblation toward the east border, and + westward over against the five and twenty thousand toward the west border, + over against the portions for the prince: and it shall be the holy oblation; + and the sanctuary of the house shall be in the midst thereof. + +EZE 48:22 Moreover from the possession of the Levites, and from the possession + of the city, being in the midst of that which is the prince's, between the + border of Judah and the border of Benjamin, shall be for the prince. + +EZE 48:23 As for the rest of the tribes, from the east side unto the west + side, Benjamin shall have a portion. + +EZE 48:24 And by the border of Benjamin, from the east side unto the west + side, Simeon shall have a portion. + +EZE 48:25 And by the border of Simeon, from the east side unto the west side, + Issachar a portion. + +EZE 48:26 And by the border of Issachar, from the east side unto the west + side, Zebulun a portion. + +EZE 48:27 And by the border of Zebulun, from the east side unto the west side, + Gad a portion. + +EZE 48:28 And by the border of Gad, at the south side southward, the border + shall be even from Tamar unto the waters of strife in Kadesh, and to the + river toward the great sea. + +EZE 48:29 This is the land which ye shall divide by lot unto the tribes of + Israel for inheritance, and these are their portions, saith the Lord GOD. + +EZE 48:30 And these are the goings out of the city on the north side, four + thousand and five hundred measures. + +EZE 48:31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of + Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one + gate of Levi. + +EZE 48:32 And at the east side four thousand and five hundred: and three + gates; and one gate of Joseph, one gate of Benjamin, one gate of Dan. + +EZE 48:33 And at the south side four thousand and five hundred measures: and + three gates; one gate of Simeon, one gate of Issachar, one gate of Zebulun. + +EZE 48:34 At the west side four thousand and five hundred, with their three + gates; one gate of Gad, one gate of Asher, one gate of Naphtali. + +EZE 48:35 It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the + city from that day shall be, The LORD is there. + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2885.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2885.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..11280fa4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2885.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,354 @@ +SUBJECT: ARE WE COMMUNICATING WITH MARS OR OHTER PLANETS? FILE: UFO2885 + + + + + + Are we communicating with Mars or other planets? + + We of Vangard have found a series of interesting correlations + which became evident with the following article, found in a book + entitled "Other Tongues, Other Flesh", written by George Hunt + Williamson and published in 1965 in Great Britain. + + ------------------------------------------------------------------ + Marconi and his secret Communication System + + In 1921, Marconi, father of wireless communications, believed he + had intercepted signals from extra-terrestial intelligences, + either from Mars or some point in outer space. + + The theory that the waves were produced by electrical disturbances + was disproved by the regularity of the impulses. + + Marconi conducted highly secret experiments before 1921 and knew + beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was in direct contact with + beings of other worlds. + + A woman in California writes: + + "During World War I, I was teaching in Scotland. In 1918, + headquarters of the Y.W.C.A. in London wrote offering me the + position of head of their branch office in Chelmsford near + London. + + The main station of the Marconi World-Wide Wireless was also + there. Many men from Britain died in World War I and it was + my job to look out for many young girls away from home. + + I took room and board with a couple somewhat older than I. + The husband was a very intelligent person and had a + responsible position with the Marconi Wireless Company. + + One day, he asked me if I would like to go through the Marconi + Station. I was delighted to go. During my tour through the + laboratories I was startled and almost petrified when we + arrived in front of a HUGE, TEN-FOOT SQUARE, TRANSPARENT CASE + inside of which seemed to be A FLAMING MASS...FLAMES REVOLVING + LIKE A WHEEL! + + I asked my friend what this was and he said that they HAD BEEN + RECEIVING WIRELESS MESSAGES SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE THE EARTH! + + + Page 1 + I asked him to be more specific. And he said: 'My dear girl, + we have stations all over the Earth, but CERTAIN CODE IS NOT + COMING FROM ANY OF THEM! WE ARE RECEIVING SIGNALS FROM + INTELLIGENT BEINGS ON OTHER INHABITED WORLDS!' + + My friend then told me that Marconi at that moment was in + Australia conducting experiments and trying to discover more + about this momentous happening. + + THEY BELIEVED THE SIGNALS WERE COMING FROM THE PLANET MARS. + + I have never mentioned this experience before, and I believe + Marconi kept his work secret because he knew what the world + would say." + + The lady who had the above experience lives in Santa Barbara, + California and is a respectable citizen of that city. + + ------------------------------------------------------------------ + Tesla's Communication with Mars + + In his famed Colorado Springs experiments, electrical genius + Nikola Tesla claimed he had received strange rhythmic sounds on + his receiver. Tesla supposed Venus or Mars to be the most likely + sources. No one at that time (1899-1900) had ever heard of such + phenomena as regular sounds from space. + + In 1902, Lord Kelvin paid a visit to the United States. During + his visit, Kelvin proclaimed himself in complete agreement with + Tesla on two controversial issues : 1) that Mars was signalling + America and 2) that the conservation of nonrenewable resources was + of critical importance to the earth. + + Not until the 1920's were such counting codes again picked up by + astronomers and given official credence. Nowadays, "listening" to + the stars is commonplace. + + ------------------------------------------------------------------ + Mysterious Deaths of Marconi Affiliated Scientists + + In March of 1988, 52 year old scientist Trevor Knight was found + slumped at the wheel of his car in his garage. Carbon monoxide + poisoning was listed as the cause of death. + + Knight was working as a computer services manager in the guided + weapons division of Marconi, a high-tech British defense firm. + + Marconi has led the field in weapons-technology research from its + first days as a developer of INTELLIGENCE-GATHERING DEVICES for + M15, the British FBI. + + Trevor Knight was the latest in a series of 25 unsolved deaths + beginning in 1982 within the British defense industry, most were + either directly working for Marconi or doing contract work for + them. + + Only superficial inquiries have been made into the very peculiar + circumstances involving many of the deaths. Several of the deaths + have been deemed suicide by local coroners while others were + listed as accidents, no matter how bizarre the situation. + + Page 2 + Yet no evidence has come to light showing an organized conspiracy, + either domestic or foreign. A U.S. intelligence expert concluded + it "probable" that "an enemy intelligence service" was involved. + + No suicide notes were found after most of the deaths and the + victims appeared happy with both their families and work, most + looking forward to the future. This is directly opposite to the + classic suicide profile. + + In all but one or two cases, no independent witnesses to the + deaths were found. + + Although Defense research is a high-stress occupation, most of the + victims were not suffering from unusual stress. + + Responding with indifference, evasion, contradiction and outright + disinformation, the British government, local law enforcement and + defense firms have ignored the profusion of these mysterious + deaths. + + An Opposition member of Parliament called for an investigation by + the Defense Mystery two years ago. He recently reversed himself + and began stating the official ministry line....that the deaths + are coincidental and the true enemy is job related stress AND THAT + FURTHER INVESTIGATION MIGHT HARM THE NATIONAL INTEREST. + + Marconi is now under investigation for $1.6 billion in alleged + fraud and contract padding. It therefore seems possible that + several of the dead scientists were either potential whistle- + blowers (and consequently murdered) or were implicated in the + inquiry (and killed themselves). + + One of the victims had worked on a highly classified project + called COSMOS. This project involved underwater torpedo research + which had direct applications to the US "Star Wars" program. + + In one month, April of 1987, five deaths occurred. + + Shani Warren, working for a digital communications company called + MicroScope, was found drowned in 18 inches of lake water. Four + weeks later, GEC, Marconi's parent company, acquired MicroScope. + + Warren was found gagged, with a noose around her neck, her feet + bound with rope and her hands tied behind her back. Police + estimated a "50/50" chance of suicide, as did the Home Office + pathologist. The coroner listed the case as still open. + + George Kountis, a systems analyst at Bristol PolyTechnic, was + found dead in his upturned BMW in the Liverpool River. + + A week earlier, Stuart Gooding, an employee at the Royal Military + College of Science, died in a car crash in Cyprus under mysterious + circumstances. + + One week after the deaths of Warren and Kountis, Mark Wisner, a 24 + year old software engineer, was found dead in his home. Around + his head was tied a plastic sack with nine feet of plastic wrap + around his face. The coroner concluded that death was caused by + asphyxiation brought on by a sexual experiment gone wrong. + + + Page 3 + August 1986, 24 year old Vimal Dajibhai, computer programmer + working on the TigerFish torpedo project for Marconi, drove to a + 240 foot high suspension bridge west of London. He apparently + walked along the edge and fell to his death. Police reports noted + a needle-sized puncture mark on his left buttock. Dajibhai was + anticipating a new career in London's financial district. + + Two months later, another Marconi computer expert, Arshad Sharif + tied one end of a rope around a tree and the other around his + neck. Sharif then got in his Audi and stepped on the accelerator. + Again, the coroner deemed the death a suicide. + + David Sands, another Marconi computer scientist was working on a + secret radar project when he died in an auto crash in March 1987. + He placed a can of gasoline in his car and drove at 80 miles an + hour, in clear daylight, into an abandoned cafe. His body was + burned beyond recognition. + + John Whiteman, a computer expert for British Aerospace, was found + drowned in his bathtub. Around the tub were empty bottles of + whiskey and sleeping pills, although blood tests revealed no trace + of drugs and only a small amount of alcohol in his system. + + John Ferry, senior Marconi employee chairing a NATO research + committee, was found dead with two electrodes taped to the + fillings in his molars and connected to a power line. + + Jonathan Wash, a digital communications expert at GEC in November + 1985, fell from his West Africa hotel room after expressing fear + for his life. + + And finally, Peter Peapell, 52 year old metallurgist and lecturer + whose work had attracted a high security classification. Two + years ago, after returning home from an evening of playing + "Trivial Pursuit" with friends, Peapell's wife went to bed, + leaving him to put away the car. The next morning Peapell was + found in the garage, underneath the car and with his mouth neatly + aligned with the end of the exhaust pipe of the car, the motor + still running. According to police, the position was impossible + to get into with the garage door closed. The inquest recorded an + open verdict and the case remains unsolved. + + ------------------------------------------------------------------ + Flame as a Plasma Transducer + + It has long been known that flame can be modulated with a wide + range of frequencies by stimulating the flame with an + electrostatic field of sufficient intensity. + + In the early 70's, a company developed a system of speakers which + used open flame to modulate the air to form audible waves. The + principle uses a flame, generated from a propane, butane or other + gas source which is influenced by an audio modulated electrostatic + field. + + Flame has a frequency range up to and beyond that of visible + light. In addition, the reproduction of the original signal is + completely without distortion if properly controlled. + + + + Page 4 + Tesla created a flame which he described as "burning without + consuming material or even a chemical reaction". + + This came about during research performed in 1900, when Tesla + created ball lightning in his lab. He mentioned the formation of + sparks into streamers which formed "fireballs". + + Modern plasma physics holds the theory that the fireball receives + its energy from its surroundings by a naturally created + electromagnetic field and that the DIAMETER OF THE PLASMA SPHERE + DEPENDS ON THE FREQUENCY OF THE EXTERNAL FIELD SO THAT A RESONANCE + OCCURS. + + John Keely, father of Sympathetic Vibratory Physics, also claimed + that OSCILLATIONS OCCUR across the DIAMETER OF THE MASS. + + The term Plasma refers to a high-temperature, ionized gas that is + electrically neutral. The motion of the gas is dominated by + electromagnetic interactions and because it is an excellent + conductor, plasmas interact directly with electromagnetic fields. + The study of plasmas is called Hydromagnetics or + Magnetohydrodynamics. + + Although modern researchers have yet to create fireballs (ball + lightning consisting of rotating plasmas) under controlled + conditions, Tesla maintained that he had learned to create the + phenomenon AT WILL (this in the very early 1900's). + + Remember that the witness to the tour of the Marconi plant + described the communication device as ; + + "A HUGE, TEN-FOOT SQUARE, TRANSPARENT CASE inside of which + seemed to be A FLAMING MASS...FLAMES REVOLVING LIKE A WHEEL!" + + Revolving flames is an apt description for a plasma torus which + could be modulated electrostatically or electromagnetically (as + with the flame transducer) for the transmission/reception of + information. + + The transparent case might well have contained deflection plates + which would not only modulate the torus but tilt it for + directional control of the communication beam. + + In addition, the beam would most likely possess laser-like + properties in that the dispersion (inverse square spreading of a + beam when emitted from a source) over tremendous distances would + be minimal. This again would be conducive to inter-planetary or + inter-stellar communications. + + The possibilities also exist for use as an earthly communication + system, especially if the nature of the signal is that of Hooper's + MOTIONAL (pure electric charge) FIELD which is invisible to + capacitive and inductive energy sappers. + + The amplitude (flux density) of the torus is controlled much like + a standard fluorescent tube. + + In such a tube, a gas or combination of gases is kindled by an + alternating current source which causes the gas to ionize and + essentially ignite. Once this occurs, the power is reduced to a + + Page 5 + much lower level sufficient to sustain the plasma. + + The Marconi company is still a very prominent company with + worldwide connections and contracts. Marconi is also heavily + involved with defense, computer and communications projects. + + From these many interesting correlations, we find reason to + believe that : + + 1) a fantastic communications systems has been developed and + utilized for equally fantastic purposes + 2) a level of contact has been established with other + cultures not native to the earth + 3) the probability of an exchange of scientific information + between diverse non-earth cultures would lead to radical + new observations and technologies + 4) the probability of contact with non-earth cultures might + have led to a visit in a physical form for purposes + unknown (aka, UFO's) + 5) government awareness of such activities and technologies + has led to suppression and death of those who threaten + exposure + + The question generated from all this is WHY are we not being made + aware of such technologies, only discovering them by chance + investigation by admittedly "unorthodox" researchers? + + If such a communication system existed in the 20's, what has it + evolved to by now, with the development of modern technology? + + In the near future, with releases of information as in this paper, + we can expect to see companies with names like PLASMACOMM, + TELEPLASMA, PLASMAVID, etc. + + ------------------------------------------------------------------ + We wish to thank Jack Veach for supplying the data + on the mysterious deaths of the scientists + ------------------------------------------------------------------ + + + + + + + FINIS + Page 6 + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2886.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2886.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..09434367 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2886.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +SUBJECT: NAVY WITHHOLDING EVIDENCE FILE: UFO2886 + + + + + "NAVY WITHHOLDING EVIDENCE" + "UFO CENTRAL" + The Forbidden City + AREA# 51 + + Posted by: Ron Garcia(NEC) + Produced by: Audrey Lauin + Reported by: Bill McGowen, both of 'Current Affair'(10/11/90)@8:00p.m. + + Just a few miles from Las Vegas, Nevada there lies a "TOP SECRET" +instalation called AREA# 51. This area is run by the U.S. Dept. of +Energy. Jaime Shandera (investigator/editor) calls the TOP SECRET +area within AREA# 51 "DREAMLAND". A ring of mountains surrounded by +another ring of mountains. + + An Electro Physicist named: Bob Lazar known for his work with Los +Alamos Meson Physics facility along with his work at NASA has come +forward with information on the Navy's (9) captured/acquired alien +spacecraft/disks/ UFOs. + + He was hired/assigned to investigate/analyze one of these captured +UFOs. He states: "these things were not built by human hands, as the +technology is FAR beyond anything we have presently! Just the +reactor & power source alone produce an amazing amount of power!!! +It was very OBVIOUS what was in the hanger!, a typical flying +saucer! The fuel that the reactor uses is a SUPER HEAVY element!, +something on the lines of approx.#115 on the periodic charts! It's a +material which cannot be synthesized here on earth, nevertheless be +found in nature! It does not exist! + + Ten years ago, this AREA# 51 was the secret developmental area for +the stealth fighters and bombers, along with countless underground +nuclear testing, which STILL goes on! Many researchers say that if +the military wanted to hide a secret testing/analizing of captured +alien spacecrafts/disks; that this AREA# 51 would be the place to do +just that! + + Mr. Bob Lazar (distraught over the criminal activities of the +Navy), brought friends to the perimeter to photograph the FIRST +FLIGHT TESTING of said disk by our own military! They filmed it +making numerous streaks across the skies over and around Rachiel, NV. + + Unfortunately, he and his friends were found out............. Since +then, Mr. Lazar has become a modern man without a country! His birth +certificate, records of government jobs, coworkers, everything +vanished, without a trace!!! The man does not exist! "As if I was +never born....he says..........." + + Doesn't this PISS you off to realize that our own military is +withholding evidence of life on other worlds from the general +public??????????!!!!!!! Well it should!!!!!! They have contained +dead alien life (on ice) and the hardware thereof for some 35-45 +years now. Don't you think that it is time to stop the cheap lies +and release OUR natural history findings to us immediately!!!!!!!!!!!! + + Something should be done to force these CRIMINALS within the AF, +Navy, and/or other military sanctions i.e. CIA, FBI to release these +glorious things/discoveries that belongs to the AMERICAN people; NOT +THE GOD DAMBED NAVY AND/OR DEPT OF ENERGY!!!!!!!! + + PLEASE GET MAD AS HELL LIKE I AM AND LETS WRITE LETTERS!!! And +don't believe me; check it out for yourself! + + You can contact Current Affair and obtain a transcript of this +particular aired program for a minimal cost. I taped it on my VCR, +but I cannot send hundreds of copies to everyone. + + Lets get out there and do something about this criminal government +of ours; who knows how much else they are witholding from us all!!! + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2887.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2887.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..24bff5be --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2887.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,201 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO REPORTING PROCEDURES - USAF - FILE: UFO2887 + + + + + R E S T R I C T E D + SECURITY INFORMATION AFL 200-5 + 1-7 + +AIR FORCE LETTER DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE +No. 200-5 WASHINGTON, 29 APRIL 1952 + + INTELLIGENCE + +(Unclassified) Unidentified Flying Objects Reporting (Short Title: FLYOBRPT) + (Effective until 29 October 1953 unless sooner rescinded or superseded) + + Paragraph + Purpose and Scope ....................................... 1 + Definition .............................................. 2 + Background .............................................. 3 + Guidance ................................................ 4 + Responsibility .......................................... 5 + Material Evidence ....................................... 6 + Reports ................................................. 7 + + 1. Purpose and Scope. This Letter sets forth Air Force responsibility and +reporting procedures for information and materiel pertaining to unidentified +flying objects. All incidents observed by Air Force personnel or received +at any Air Force installation from a civilian source will be reported in +accordance with this Letter, except that all airborne sightings by Air Force +personnel, Civilian Air Patrol, and regularly scheduled United States +airline pilots will also be reported as provided by JANAP 146 series +(CIRVIS). + + 2. Definition. Unidentified flying objects, as used in this Letter, +relates to any airborne object which by performance, aerodynamic +characteristics, or unusual features, does not conform to any presently +known aircraft or missile type. + + 3. Background. The Air Force has been conducting a continuous analysis of +all reports of unidentified flying objects for the past several years. +Analysis of these reports has neither proved nor disproved the possibility +of the existence of such objects. The possibility of future development of +some type of flying object, unconventional by present standards, dictates a +continuing need for reports of observations. + + 4. Guidance. Theodolite measurements of changes of azimuth and elevation +and angular size are of great aid to the evaluation of reports. +Interception, identification, and air search action may develop additional +information important for evaluation purposes. These actions may be taken +if appropriate and within the scope of existing air defense regulations. + + 5. Responsibility: + + a. Analysis. The Air Technical Intelligence Center (ATIC), Wright- +Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, has been designated the Air force activity +responsible for conducting analysis of all information and material +received. + + b. Cooperation. All Air Force activities will assist ATIC in the +development of pertinent investigations, including the furnishing if air and +ground transportation, as may be requested by ATIC representatives and when +feasible. Direct communication between ATIC and zone of interior activities +is authorized when essential due to time and economic factors. + + c. Reporting. Installation commanders are responsible for insuring that +reports are initiated. + + 6. Material Evidence. In the event any actual or suspected items of +material pertinent to any unidentified flying object incident comes into the +possession of any Air Force echelon, two actions will be taken without +delay: + + a. Safeguard the material carefully to prevent any defacing or +alteration which would reduce its value for technical analysis. + + b. Notify ATIC immediately and request shipping instructions or other +special instructions as may be appropriate. + + 7. Reports. Information relating to unidentified flying objects will be +reported without delay. Originators will select the priority appropriate +for each incident in accordance with its apparent importance as +intelligence. Reports will be concerned with a single incident. reports +will be forwarded immediately by electrical means and confirmed and +elaborated upon by a written report within three days. + + a. The symbol FLYOBRPT will appear at the beginning of the text of +electrical messages and will be used as subject of written reports to +facilitate identification. + + b. Security. Reports should not be classified higher than "Restricted" +unless inclusion of data required by c and d below mandates a higher +classification. Local publicity concerning this reporting and analysis +activity is to be avoided. + + R E S T R I C T E D 1 + SECURITY INFORMATION + +=========================================================================== + + R E S T R I C T E D +ALF 200-5 SECURITY INFORMATION + 7 + + C. Electrical Means. Reports forwarded by this method will include, +insofar as possible: + + (1) A Brief description of the object(s); shape, size, color, number, + formation if more than one, aerodynamic features, trail or + exhaust, propulsion system, speed, sound, maneuvers, manner of + disappearance, and other pertinent or unusual features. + + (2) Time of sighting in 24-hour clock zonal time, and length of time + observed. + + (3) Manner of observation; visual or electronic, from air (give + speed, altitude, and type of aircraft), or surface. Any type of + optical or electronic equipment used should be described. + + (4) Location of observer during sighting, given exact latitude and + longitude as closely as feasible, and/or reference to a known + landmark. Location of object(s) with respect to observer, giving + distance, direction, and altitude. + + (5) Identifying information of observer(s) and witness(es), estimate + of reliability and experience, and any factors bearing on + estimated reliability of the sighting. + + (6) Weather and winds aloft conditions at time and place of + sightings. + + (7) Any activity or condition, meteorological or otherwise, which + might account for the sighting. + + (8) Existence of any physical evidence such as fragments, photographs + and the like, of the sighting. + + (9) Interception and identification action taken. (Such action may + be taken whenever feasible, complying with existing air defense + directives.) + + (10) Location of any air traffic in the general area at the time of + the sighting. + + d. Written Reports. These reports will be submitted on AF Form 112, +"Air Intelligence Information report," and will expand on the points +enumerated in c above. photographs, sketches, and signed narrative +statements of observers will be appended. Statements should be recorded in +as great detail as possible, with particular attention given to times, +angles of observations, locations, flight paths, etc., should be drawn on +aeronautical charts or maps. + + e. Channels: + + (1) Electrical reports will be dispatched in multiple address to: + + (a) Director of Intelligence, Headquarters USAF, Washington 25, D.C. + + (b) Air Technical Intelligence Center (ATIC), Wright- + Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, ATTN: ATIAA-2c + + (c) Commanding General, Ent AFB, Colorado Springs, Colorado + + (d) Appropriate major air command headquarters + + (2) Written reports will be submitted through channels to: + + (a) Director of Intelligence, Headquarters USAF, Washington 25, D.C. + for ozalid-type reproduction and dissemination. + + (b) Chief, Air Technical Intelligence Center, ATTN: ATIAA-2c, + Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, one copy for information. + +By Order of the Secretary of the Air Force: + +Official: HOYT S. VANDENBURG + Chief of Staff, United States Air Force + + K.E. THIEBAUD + Colonel, USAF + Air Adjutant General + +DISTRIBUTION: + D + + + + + +2 R E S T R I C T E D + SECURITY INFORMATION + +=========================================================================== + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2888.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2888.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..058e6728 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2888.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,208 @@ + +SUBJECT: UFO REPORTING PROCEDURES - USAF - FILE: UFO2888 + + + +PART 2 + + + +CUFON Computer UFO Network + + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 06-18-1986 + Subject: 1954 AFR 200-2 + + SOURCE: SELF EXPLAINED + DATE: 12 AUGUST 1954 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +AIR FORCE REGULATION) *AFR 200-2 DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE +NO. 200-2 ) 1-5 WASHINGTON, 12 AUGUST 1954 + + INTELLIGENCE + + Unidentified Flying Objects Reporting (Short Title:UFOB) û + + Paragraph + Purpose and Scope_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _1 + Definitions_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _2 + Objectives_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 3 + Responsibility_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 4 + Guidance_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 5 + ZI Collection _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 6 + Reporting _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 7 + Evidence _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _8 + Release of Facts _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _9 + + 1. Purpose and Scope. This Regulation establishes procedures for +reporting information and evidence pertaining to unidentifed flying +objects and sets forth the responsibility of Air Force activities in this +regard. It applies to all Air Force activities. + + 2. Definitions: + + a. Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOB) -- Relates to any airborne +object which by performance, aerodynamic characteristics, or unusual +features does not conform to any presently known aircraft or missile type, +or which cannot be positively identified as a familiar object. + + b. Familiar Objects -- Include balloons, astronomical bodies, birds, +and so forth. + + 3. Objectives. Air Force interest in unidentified flying objects is +twofold: First as a possible threat to the security of the United States +and its forces, and secondly, to determine technical aspectr°involved. + + a. Air Defense. To date, the flying objects reported have imposed no +threat to the security of the United States and its Possessions. However, +the possibility that new air vehicles, hostile aircraft or missiles may +first be regarded as flying objects by the initial observer is real. This +requires that sightings be reported rapidly and as completely as +information permits. + + b. Technical. Analysis thus far has failed to provide a satisfactory +explanation for a number of sightings reported. The Air Force will +continue to collect and analyze reports until all sightings can be +satisfactorily explained, bearing in mind that: + + (1) To measure scientific advances, the Air Force must be informed + on experimentation and development of new air vehicles. + + (2) The possibility exists that an air vehicle of revolutionary + configuration may be developed. + + (3) The reporting of all pertinent factors will have a direct + bearing on the success of the technical analysis. + + 4. Responsibility: + + a. Reporting. Commanders of Air Force activities will report all +information and evidence thaty may come to their attention, including that +received from adjacent commands of the other services and from civilians. + + b. Investigation. Air Defense Command will conduct all field +investigations within the ZI, to determine the identity of any UFOB. + + c. Analysis. The Air Technical Intelligence Center (ATIC), Wright- +Patterson Air Corce Base,Ohio, will analyze and evaluate: All +information and evidence reported within the ZI after the Air Defense +Command has exhausted all efforts to identify the UFOB; and all +information and evidence collected in oversea areas. + + d. Cooperation. All activities will cooperate with Air Defense +Command representatives to insure the economical and prompt success of an +investigation, including the furnishing of air and ground transportation, +when feasible. + + 5. Guidance. The thoroughness and quality of a report or investigation +into incidents of unidentified flying objects are limited only by the +resourcefulness and imagination of the person responsible for preparing +the report. Guidance set forth below is based on experience and has been +found helpful in evaluating incidents: + + a. Theodolite measurements of changes of azimuth and elevation and +angular size. + + b. Interception, identification, or air search action. These actions +may be taken if appropriate and within the scope of existing air defense +regulations. + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + c. Contact with local aircraft control and warning (AC&W) units, ground +observation corps (GOC) posts and filter centers, pilots and crews of +aircraft aloft at the time and place of sighting whenever feasible, and any +other persons or organizations which may have factual data bearing on the +UFOB or may be able to offer corroborating evidence, electronic or +otherwise. + + d. Consultaiton with military or civilian weather forecasters to +obtain data on: Tracks of weather balloons released in the area, since +these often are responsible for sightings; and any unusual meteorological +activity which may have a bearing on the UFOB. + + e. Consultation with astronomers in the area to determine whether any +astronomical body or phenomenon would account for or have a bearing on the +observation. + + f. Contact with military and civilian tower operators, air operations +offices, and so forth, to determine whether the sighting could be the +result of misidentification of known aircraft. + + g. Contact with persons who might have knowledge of experimental +aircraft of unusual configuration, rocket and guided missile firings, and +so forth, in the area. + + 6. ZI Collection. The Air Defense Command has a direct interest in the +facts pertaining to UFOB's reported within the ZI and has, in the 4602d +Air Intelligence Service Squadron (AISS), the capabil8ity to investigate +these reports. The 4602d AISS is composed of specialists trained for +field collection and investigation of matters of air intelligence interest +which occur within the ZI. This squadron is highly mobile and deployed +throughout the ZI as follows: Flights are attached to air defense +divisions, detachments are attached to each of the defense forces, and the +squadron headquarters is located at Peterson Field, Colorado, adjacent to +Headquarters, Air Defense Command. Air Force activities, therefore, +should establish and maintain liaison with the nearestelement of this +squadron. This can be accomplished by contacting the appropriate echelon +of the Air Defense Command as outlined above. + + a. All Air Force activities are authorized to conduct such preliminary +investigation as may be required for reporting purposcs; however, +investigations should not be carried beyond this point, unless such action +is requested by the 4602d AISS. + + b. On occasions-after inital reports are submitted-additional data is +required which can be developed more economically by the nearest Air Force +activity, such as: narrative statements, skctches, marked maps, charts,and +so forth.Under such circumstances,appropriatc commanders will be contacted +by the 4602d AISS. + + 7.Reporting.All information reating to UFOB's will be reported promptly +The method (electrical or written) and priority of dispatch will be +selected in accordance with the apparent intelligence value of the inform- +ation. In most instances, reports will be made by electrical means: +Information over 24 hours ald will be given a "deferred" precedence. +Reports over 3 days old will be made by written report prepared on AF Form +112, Air Intelligence Information report, and AF Form 112a, Supplement to +AF Form 112. + + a. Addderssess: + + (1) Electrical Reports. All electrical reports will be multiple +addressed to: (a) COMMANDER, Air Defense Command, Ent Air Force Base, Col- + orado Springs, Colorado. + (b) Nearest Air Division (Defense). (For ZI only. ) + (c) Commander, Air Technical Intelligence Center, Wright + Patterson Air Fofce Base, Ohio. + (d) Director of Intelligence, Headquarters USAF, Wasgington +25, D.C. + + (2) Written Reports: + (a) Within the ZI, reports will be submitted direct to the + Air Defensc Command. Air Defensc Command will reproduce + the report and distribute it to interested ZI intellige- + nce agencies. The original report together with notation + of the distribution effected then will be forwarded to + the Director of Intelligence, Headquarters USAF, + Washington 25, D.C. + + (b) Outside the ZI, reports will be submitted direct to + Director of Intelligence, Headquarters USAF,Washington + 25, D.C. as prescribed in (Intelligence Collection + Instructions" (ICI), June 1954. + + b. Short Title. "UFOB" will appear at the beginning of the text of + electrical messages and in the subject of written reports. + + c. Negative Data. The word "negative" + + + ============================================================================= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2889.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2889.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b1090e4c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2889.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +SUBJECT: PHOTO IMAGERY INTERPRETATION FILE: UFO2888 + + + + + CUFON - UFO INFORMATION SERVICE SEATTLE, WASHINGTON + + Freedom of Information Act Document Files + ______________________________________________________________________________ + + + SECRET + + 17 NOV 1980 + + + + RTTEZYVW RUFLOJA9136 + ZNY S E C R E T + GT + SECRET FOR AFOSI ONLY + R 171130Z NOV 80 + FM HQ AFOSI BOLLING AFB DC//IVOE + TO RUWTFBA AFOSI DIST 17 KIRTLAND AFB NM//BID + INFO 7602 AINTELG FT BELVOIR VA//INSR + SECRET FOR AFOSI ONLY + Ref: Request for Photo Imagery Interpretation Your MSG 292030Z Oct 80. + Subject Case NR: 8017D93-126 HQ CR 44 + l. Subject Negatives/Film were analyzed by HQ IVT and 7602 AINTELG, it and + the following results were found: + A. Negative #1: Deplicting C-5A aircraft on approach and streaking + unidentified aerial object in lower right portion of film. Film found to be + unaltered. Size differential was not consistent with size of aircraft. + Conclusion: Inconclusive + B. Negative #2: Deplicting cylinder shaped unidentified aerial object in + upper left portion of photo. Film found to be unaltered. Film showed + object to be consistent with field depth and consistent with relative size + of fixed objects. Conclusion: Legitimate nagativeof unidentified aerial + object. Bolton/Reinfeld method did not reveal visible markings on object. + C. Negative #3: Deplicting irregular shaped unidentified aerial object in + seven frames of 8MM film. Because of the size and apparent speed of object + no further classification or conclusion could be drawn. Film shown to be + unaltered. + D. 34 inches of 8MM film: Deplicting apparent colored object moving in + front of still camera. Film found to be unaltered. Spectrography revealed + colors to be basic prism features. Depth analysis revealed object to be + within 152MM of camera. Object was not consistent with relative size of + fixed objects observed for several seconds in film. Conclusion: + inconclusive. + E. Original Neative Deplicting Unidentified Object: Film found to be + unaltered. Because of a lack of fixed objects in the film, no depth + analysis could be performed. Bolton, Reinfeld method revealed object to be + saucer shaped, approximate diameter 37 feet. Object contained a trilateral + insignia on the lower portion of object. Conclusion: Legitimate negative + of unidentified aerial object. + 2. Ref your request for further information regarding HQ CR 44, the + following is provided: Capt. Grace 7602 Aintelg,INS contacted and related + following: (S/WINTEL) USAF no longer publicly active in UFO research, + however USAF still has interest in all UFO sightings over USAF installation/ + test ranges. Several other government agencies, lead by NASA, actively + f* investigates legitimate sightings through covert cover. (S/WINTEL/FSA) One such cover is UFO Reporting Center, US Coast and Geodetic Survey, + Rockville, MD 20852. NASA filters results of sightings to appropriate + military departments with interest in that particular sighting. The + official US Government Policy and results of project Aquarius is still + classified top secret with no dissemination outside official intelligence + channels and with restricted access to "MJ Twelve". Case on Bennewitz is + being monitored by NASA, INS, who request all future evidence be forwarded + to them thru AFOSI, IVOE. + 4. Ref your request for technical assistance. Because of a chance of public + disclosure, no knowledgeable personnel with SPA will be provided. Continue + to receive assistance from individuals mentioned in your message, Miller, + fugate. Because of the sensitivity of case, request they be thoroghly + debriefed at regular intervals. + BTS + NNNS + DOWNGRADE 17NOV2020 + ______________________________________________________________________________ + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2890.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2890.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d3ff2b81 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2890.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,693 @@ +SUBJECT: STUDY OF UFOs FILE: UFO2890 + + + + +AIR FORCE REGULATION 80-17. + +Replaced AFR 200-2 in September 1966. + +Source: The Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects + Conducted by the University of Colorado + Under Research Contract with the U.S. Air Force + Dr. Edward E.U. Condon, Project Director + "The Condon report" + APPENDIX B. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- +AIR FORCE REGULATION 80-17 + + DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE + Washington, D.C. 19 September 1966 + Research and Development + UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (UFO) + +This regulation establishes the Air Force program for investigating and +analysing UFOs over the United States. It provides for uniform investigative +procedures and release of information. The investigations and analyses +prescribed are related directly to the Air Force's responsibility for the air +defence of the United States. The UFO Program requires prompt reporting and +rapid evaluation of data for successful identification. Strict compliance +with this regulation is mandatory. + ----------------------- + + SECTION A - GENERAL PROVISIONS + Paragraph +Explanation of Terms . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 +Program Objectives . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 +Program Responsibilities . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 + + SECTION B - PUBLIC RELATIONS, INFORMATION, + CONTACTS, AND RELEASES + +Response to Public Interest . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 +Releasing Information . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 + + SECTION C - PREPARING AND SUBMITTING REPORTS + +General Information . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 +Guidance in Preparing Reports . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 +Transmittal of Reports. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 +Negative or Inapplicable Information. . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 +Comments of Investigating Officer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 +Basic Reporting Data and Format . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 +Reporting Physical Evidence . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 + + SECTION A - GENERAL PROVISIONS + +1. Explanation of Terms. To insure proper and uniform usage of terms in UFO +investigations, reports and analyses, an explanation of common terms +follows: + + a. Unidentified Flying Objects. Any aerial phenomenon or object which is + unknown or appears out of the ordinary to the observer. + + b. Familiar or Known Objects/Phenomena. Aircraft, aircraft lights, + astronomical bodies (meteors, planets, stars, comets, sun, moon), + balloons, birds fireworks, missiles, rockets, satellites, weather + phenomena + + ----------- +This Regulation supersedes AFR 200-2, 20 July 1962 +OPR: AFRSTA +DISTRIBUTION: S + + (clouds, contrails, dust devils), and other natural + phenomena. + +2. Program Objectives. Air Force interest in UFOs is two-fold: to determine +if the UFO is a possible threat to the United states and to use the +scientific and technical data gained from study of UFO reports. To attain +these objectives, it is necessary to explain or identify the stimulus which +caused the observer to report his observation as an unidentified flying +object. + + a. Air Defence. The majority of UFOs reported to the Air Force have + been conventional or familiar objects which pose no threat to our + security. + + (1) It may be possible that foreign countries may develop flying + vehicles of revolutionary configuration or propulsion. + + (2) Frequently, some alleged UFOs are determined to be aircraft. Air + Defence Command (ADC) is responsible for identification of + aircraft. Except as aircraft are determined to be the stimulus for + a UFO report, aircraft are not to be reported under the provisions + of this regulation. + + b. Technical and Scientific. The Air Force will analyse reports of UFOs + submitted to it to attain the program objectives. In this connection + these facts are of importance: + + (1) The need for further scientific knowledge in geophysics, astronomy + and physics of the upper atmosphere which may be provided by study + and analysis of UFOs and similar aerial phenomena. + + (2) The need to report all pertinent factors that have a direct bearing + on scientific analysis and conclusions of UFO sightings. + + (3) The need and the importance of complete case information. Analysis + has explained all but a small percentage of the sightings which + have been reported to the Air Force. The ones that have not been + explained are carried statistically as "unidentified." Because of + the human factors involved and because of analysis of a UFO + sightings depends on a personal interpretation by the observer + rather than on scientific data or facts obtained under controlled + conditions, the elimination of all unidentifieds is improbable. + However, if more immediate, detailed and objective data on the + unidentifieds that have been available and promptly reported, + perhaps these too, could have been identified. + +3. Program Responsibilities: + + a. Program Monitor. The Deputy Chief of Staff, Research and Development, + is responsible for the overall program, evaluation of investigative + procedures, and the conduct of separate scientific investigations. + + b. Resources. The Air Force Systems Command will support the program with + current resources within the Foreign Technology Division (FTD) at + Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, to continue Blue Book effort. + Other AFSC resources normally used by FTD for this effort will continue + to be made available. + + c. Investigation. Each commander of an Air Force BAse will provide a UFO + investigative capability. When notice of a UFO sighting is received, + an investigation will be implemented to determine if the stimulus for + the sighting. An Air Force base receiving the notice of a UFO sighting + may not be the base nearest the locale of the sighting. In that event, + the reported UFO sighting will be referred to the Air Force base + nearest the sighting for action. + + EXCEPTIONS: FTD at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, independently + or with the help of pertinent Air Force activities, may conduct any + other investigation to conclude its analysis or findings. HQ USAF may + arrange for separate investigations. + + d. Analysis. FTD will: + + (1) Analyze and evaluate all information and evidence reported to bases + on those UFOs which are not identified at the base level. + + (2) Use other Government agencies, private industrial companies, and + contractor personnel to assist in analyzing and evaluating UFO + reports as necessary. + + e. Findings. FTD, Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, will prepare a final case + report on each sighting reported to it after the data have been + properly evaluated. If the final report is deemed significant, FTD + will send the report of its findings to AFSC (SFCA), Andrews AFB, Wash + D.C. 20331, which will send a report to HQ USAF (AFRDC), Wash D.C. + 20330. + + f. Cooperation. All AIr Force activities will cooperate with UFO + investigators to insure that pertinent information relative to + investigations of UFO are promptly obtained. When feasible, this will + include furnishing air or ground transportation and other assistance. + + + SECTION B - PUBLIC RELATIONS, INFORMATION, CONTACTS, AND RELEASES + +4. Response to Public Interest. The Secretary of the Air Force, Office of +Information (SAF-OI), maintains contact with the public and the news media on +all aspects of the UFO program and related activities. Private individuals +or organizationsdesiring Air Force interviews, briefings or lectures, or +private discussions on UFOs will be instructed to direct their requests to +SAF-OI. Air Force members not officially connected with UFO investigations +covered by this regulation will refrain from any action or comment on UFO +reports which may mislead or cause the public to construe these opinions as +official Air Force findings. + +5. Releasing Information. SAF-OI is the agency responsible for releasing +information to the public and to the news media. + + a. Congressional and Presidential Inquiries. The Office of Legislative + Liaison will: + + (1) With th assistance of SAF-OI, answer all Congressional and + Presidential queries regarding UFOs forwarded to the Air Force. + + (2) Process requests from Congressional sources in accordance with AFR + 11-7. + + b. SAF-OI will: + + (1) Respond to correspondence from individuals requesting information + on the UFO program and evaluations of sightings. + + (2) release information on UFO sightings and results of + investigations to the general public. + + (3) Send correspondence queries which are purely technical and + scientific to FTD for information on which to base a reply. + + c. Exceptions. In response to local inquiries regarding UFOs reported in + the vicinity of an Air Force Base, the base commander may release + information to the news media or the public after the sighting has been + positively identified. If the stimulus for the sighting is difficult + to identify at the base level, the commander may state that the + sighting is under investigation and conclusions will be released by + SAF-OI after the investigation is completed. The commander may also + state that the Air force will review and analyze the results of the + investigation. Any further inquiries will be directed to SAF-OI. + + + SECTION C - PREPARING AND SUBMITTING REPORTS + +6. General Information: + + a. The Deputy Chief of Staff, Research and Development, USAF and the ADC + have a directed immediate interest in UFOs reported within the US. + All Air Force activities will conduct UFO investigations to the extent + necessary for reporting action (see paragraphs 9, 10, 11, and 12). + Investigation may be carried beyond this point when the preparing + officer believes the scientific or public relations aspect of the case + warrants further investigation. In this case, the investigator will + coordinate his investigation with FTD. + + b. Paragraph 7 will be used as a guide for screenings and reportings. + Paragraph 11 is an outline of the reporting format. + + c. Inquiries should be directed to SAF-OI (see paragraph 5) + + d. If possible, an individual selected as a UFO investigator should have a + scientific or technical background and experience as an investigator. + + e. Reports required by this regulation are excluded from assignment of a + reports control symbol in accordance with paragraph 3k, AFR 300-5. + +7. Guidance in Preparing Reports. The usefulness of a UFO report depends +largely on accuracy, timeliness, skill and resourcefulness of the person who +receives the initial information and makes the report. Following are aids +for screening, evaluating and reporting sightings: + + a. Activities receiving initial reports of aerial objects and phenomena + will screen the information to determine if the report concerns a valid + UFO as defined in paragraph 1a. reports not falling within that + definition do not require further action. Aircraft flares, jet + exhausts, condensation trails, blinking or steady lights observed at + night, lights circling near airport and airways, and other aircraft + phenomena should not be reported as they do not fall within the + definition of a UFO. + + EXCEPTION: Reports of known objects will be made to FTD when this + information originally had been reported by local news media as a UFO + and the witness has contacted the Air Force. (Do NOT solicit reports.) + News releases should be included as an attachment with the report (see + paragraph 8c) + + b. detailed study will be made of the logic, consistency, and authenticity + of the observer's report. An interview with the observer by persons + preparing the report, is especially valuable in determining the + reliability of the source and the validity of the information. Factors + for particular attention are the observer's age, occupation, and + education, and whether he has a technical or scientific background. A + report that a witness is completely familiar with certain aspects of a + sighting should indicate specific qualifications to substantiate such + familiarity. + + c. The following procedures will assist the investigation officer in + completing the report and arriving at conclusion as required in + paragraph 11. + + (1) When feasible, contact local aircraft control and warning (ACW) + units, and pilots and crews of aircraft aloft at the time and place + of the sighting. Contact any persons or organizations that may + have additional data on the UFO or can verify evidence - visual, + electronic, or other. + + (2) Consult military or civilian weather forecasters for data on tracks + of weather balloons ar any unusual meteorological activity that may + have a bearing on the stimulus for the UFO. + + (3) Consult navigators and astronomers in the area to determine if any + astronomical body or phenomenon might account for the sighting. + + (4) Consult military and civilian tower operators, air operations + units, and airlines to determine if the sighting could have been an + aircraft. Local units of the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) can be + of assistance in this regard. + + (5) Consult persons who may know of experimental aircraft of unusual + configuration, rocket and guided missile firings, or aerial tests + in the area. + + (6) Consult local and State police, county sherifs, forest rangers, + and other civil officials who may have been in the ara at the time + of the sighting or have knowledge of other witnesses. + +8. Transmittal of Reports: + + a. Timeliness. report all information on UFO's promptly. Electrical + transmission with a "Priority" precedence is authorized. + + b. Submission of Reports. Submit multiple-addressed electrical reports + to: + + (1) ADC + + (2) Nearest Air Division (Defence) + + (3) FTD WPAFB. (First line of Text: FOR TDETR.) + + (4) CASF. (First line of Text: FOR AFRDC.) + + (5) OSAF. (First line of Text: FOR SAF-OI) + + c. Written Reports. In the event that follow-up action requires a letter + report, send it to FTD TDETR, Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, 45433. FTD + will send the reports to interested organizations in the US and to + SAF-OI if required. + + d. Reports from Civilians. Advise civilians to report UFOs to the + nearest Air Force Base. + + e. Negative or Inapplicable Data. If specific information is lacking, + refrain from using the words "negative" or "unidentified" unless all + logical leads to obtain the information outlined in paragraph 11 have + been exhausted. For example, the information on weather conditions in + the area, as requested in paragraph 11g, is obtainable from the local + military or civilian weather facility. Use the phrase "not + applicable (NA)" only when the question really does not apply to + the sighting under investigation. + +10. Comments of Investigating Officer. This officer will make ann initial +analysis and comment on the possible cause or identity of the stimulus in a +supporting statement. He will make every effort to obtain pertinent items of +information and to test all possible leads, clues, and hypotheses. the +investigating officer who receives the initial report is in a better position +to conduct an on-the-spot- survey and follow-up than subsequent +investigative personnel and analysts who may be far removed from the area and +who may arrive too late to obtain vital data or information necessary for +firm conclusions. The investigating officer's comments and conclusions will +be in the last paragraph of the report submitted through channels. The +reporting official will contact FTD (Area Code 513,257-0916 ot 257-6678) for +verbal authority to continue investigations. + +11. Basic Reporting Data and Format. Show the abbreviation "UFO" at the +beginning of the text of all electrical reports and in the subject of any +follow-up written reports. Include required data in all electrical reports, +in the order shown below: + + a. Description of the Objects(s): + + (1) Shape. + + (2) Size compared to a known object. + + (3) Color. + + (4) Number. + + (5) Formation, if more than one. + + (6) Any discernible features or details. + + (7) Tail, trail or exhaust, including its size. + + (8) Sound. + + (9) Other pertinent or unusual features. + + b. Description of Course of Object(s): + + (1) What first called the attention of observer(s) to the object(s). + + (2) Angle of elevation and azimuth of object(s) when first observed. + (Use theodolite or compass measurement if possible.) + + (3) Angle of elevation of object(s) upon disappearance. (Use + theodolite or compass measurement if possible.) + + (4) Description of flight path and maneuvers of object(s). (Use + elevations and azimuth, not altitude.) + + (5) How did the object(s) disappear? (Instantaneously to the North, + for example.) + + (6) How long were the object(s) visible? (Be specific - 5 minutes, 1 + hour, etc.) + + c. Manner of Observation: + + (1) Use one or any combination of the following items: Ground-visual, + air-visual, ground-electronic, air-electronic. (If electronic, + specify type of radar.) + + (2) Statement as to optical aids (telescopes, binoculars, etc.) used + and description thereof. + + (3) If the sighting occurred while airborne, give type of aircraft, + identification number, altitude, heading, speed, and home station. + + d. Time and Date of Sighting: + + (1) Greenwich date-time group of sighting and local time. + + (2) Light conditions (use one of the following terms: Night, day, dawn, + dusk). + + e. Location of Observer(s). Give exact latitude and longitude coordinates + of each observer, and/or geographical position. In electrical reports, + give a position with reference to a known landmark in addition to the + coordinates. For example, use "2 mi N of Deeville"; "3 mi SW of Blue + Lake," to preclude errors due to teletype garbling of figures. + + f. Identifying Information on Observer(s): + + (1) Civilian - Name, age, mailing address, occupation, education and + estimate of reliability. + + (2) Military - Name, grade, organization, duty, and estimate of + reliability. + + g. Weather and Winds-Aloft Conditions at Time and Place of Sighting: + + (1) Observer(s) account of weather conditions. + + (2) Report from nearest AWS or US Weather Bureau Office of wind + direction and velocity in degrees and knots at surface, 6000', + 10,000', 16,000', 20,000', 30,000', 50,000', and 80,000', if + available. + + (3) Ceiling. + + (4) Visibility. + + (5) Amount of cloud cover. + + (6) Thunderstorms in area and quadrant in which located. + + (7) vertical temperature gradient. + + h. Any other unusual activity or condition, meteorological, astronomical, + or otherwise that might account for the sighting. + + i. Interception or identification action taken (such action is authorized + whenever feasible and in compliance with existing air defence + directives). + + j. Location, approximate altitude, and general direction of flight of any + air traffic or balloon releases in the area that might account for the + sighting. + + k. Position title and comments of the preparing officer, including his + preliminary analysis of the possible cause of the sighting(s). (See + paragraph 10.) + +12. Reporting Physical Evidence: + + a. Photographic: + + (1) Still Pictures: Forward the original negative to FTD (TDETR), + Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio 45433, and indicate the place, time, and + date the photograph was taken. + + (2) Motion Pictures. Obtain the ORIGINAL film. Examine the film strip + for apparent cuts, alterations, obliterations, or defects. In the + report comment on any irregularities, particularly in films + received from other than official sources. + + (3) Supplemental Photographic Information. Negatives and prints often + are insufficient to provide certain valid data or permit firm + conclusions. information that aids in plotting or in estimating + distances, apparent size and nature of object, probable velocity, + and movements includes: + + (a) Type and make of camera. + + (b) Type, focal length, and make of lens. + + (c) Brand and type of film. + + (d) Shutter speed used. + + (e) Lens opening used; that is "f" stop. + + (f) Filters used. + + (g) Was tripod or solid stand used. + + (h) Was "panning" used. + + (i) Exact direction camera was pointing with relation to true + North, and its angle with respect to the ground. + + (4) Other Camera Data. If supplemental data is unobtainable, the + minimum camera data required are the type of camera, and the + smallest and largest "f" stop and shutter speed readings of the + camera. + + (5) Radar. Forward two copies of each still camera photographic prints + per AFR 95-7. Classify radarscope photographs per AFR 205-1. + + NOTE: If possible, develop film before forwarding. Mark undeveloped film +clearly to indicate this fact, to avoid destruction by exposure through mail +channels to final addresses. + + b. Material. Air Force echelons receiving suspected or actual UFO + material will safeguard it to prevent any defacing or alterations which + might reduce its value for intelligence examination and analysis. + + c. Photographs, Motion pictures, and Negatives Submitted by Individuals. + Individuals often submit photographic and motion picture material as + part of their UFO reports. All original material submitted will be + returned to the individual after completion of necessary studies, + analysis, and duplication by the Air Force. + + +By Order of the Secretary of the Air Force + +Official J.P. McCONNELL + General U.S. Air Force + Chief of Staff + + +R.J. PUGH +Colonel, USAF +Director of Administrative Services + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- +CHANGE AFR 80-17 + +AIR FORCE REGULATION DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE +NO. AFR 80-17A Washington, 9 November 1966 + + Research and Development + + UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (UFO) + +AFR 80-17, 19 September 1966,is changed as follows: + +3c. EXCEPTIONS: FTD at Wright-Patterson ... for separate investigations. +The University of Colorado WILL, under a research agreement with the Air +Force, conduct a study of UFOs. This program (to run approximately 15 +months) will be conducted independently and without restrictions. The +University will enlist the assistance of other conveniently located +institutions that can field investigative teams. ALL UFO reports will be +submitted to the University of Colorado, which will be given the fullest +cooperation of all UFO Investigating Officers. Every effort will be made to +keep all UFO reports unclassified. However, if it is necessary to classify a +report because of method of detection or other fcators not related to the +UFO, a separate report including all possible information will be sent to The +University of Colorado. + +8b(6). University of Colorado, Boulder CO 80302, Dr. Condon. (Mail copy of +message form.) + +8c. Negative or Inapplicable Data. Renumber as paragraph 9. + +11k. Position title, name, rank, and official address, telephone area code, +office and home phone, and comments of the preparing officer, including +his preliminary analysis of the possible cause of the sighting(s). (See +paragraph 10.) + + +By Order of the Secretary of the Air Force + +Official J.P. McCONNELL + General U.S. Air Force + Chief of Staff + + +R.J. PUGH +Colonel, USAF +Director of Administrative Services + + + --------------- +DISTRIBUTION: S + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + CHANGE 1, AFR 80-17 + +AIR FORCE REGULATION DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE +NO. AFR 80-17 (C1) Washington, 26 October 1968 + + Research and Development + + UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (UFO) + +AFR 80-17, 19 September 1966,is changed as follows: + +*3c. Investigation. Each commander of an Air Force base within the United +States will provide a UFO ... sighting for action. + +3c. EXCEPTIONS: FTD at Wright-Patterson ... for separate investigations. +The University of Colorado, under a research agreement with the Air Force, +will conduct a study of UFOs. This program (to run approximately 15 months) +will be conducted independently and without restrictions. The University +will enlist the assistance of other conveniently located institutions that +can field investigative teams. ALL UFO reports will be submitted to the +University of Colorado, which will be given the fullest cooperation of all +UFO Investigating Officers. Every effort will be made to keep all UFO +reports unclassified. However, if it is necessary to classify a report +because of method of detection or other factors not related to the UFO, a +separate report including all possible information will be sent to The +University of Colorado. + +*6a. The Deputy Chief of Staff. ... reported within the United States. All +Air Force activities within the United States will conduct UFO ... +investigations with FTD. + +8b(6). University of Colorado, Boulder CO 80302, Dr. Condon. (Mail copy of +message form.) + +*8c. Reports. If follow up action is required on electrically transmitted +reports, prepare an investigative report on AF Form 117, "Sighting of +Unidentified Phenomena Questionnaire," which will be reproduced locally on 8" +x 10 1/2" paper in accordance with attachment 1 (9pages). Send the completed +investigative report to FTD (TDETR), Wright-patterson AFB OH 45433. FTD +will send the reports to interested organizations in the United States and to +the Secretary of the Air Force (SAFOI), Wash DC 20330, if required. + +8c. Negative or Inapplicable Data. Renumber as paragraph 9. + +11k. Position title, name, rank, and official address, telephone area code, +office and home telephone, and comments of the preparing officer, including +his preliminary analysis of the possible cause of the sighting. (See +paragraph 10.) + + +By Order of the Secretary of the Air Force + +Official J.P. McCONNELL, General USAF + Chief of Staff + + +R.J. PUGH, Colonel, USAF 1 Attachment +Director of Administrative Services AF Form 117, "Sighting of Un- + identified Phenomena Question- + naire" + --------------- +This regulation supersedes AFR 80-17A, 8 November 1966. +OPR: AFRDDG +DISTRIBUTION: S + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + >>> AIR FORCE FORM 117 "Sighting of Unidentified Phenomena Questionnaire" + IS NOT REPRODUCED HERE <<< + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + CHANGE 2, AFR 80-17 + +AIR FORCE REGULATION DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE +NO. AFR 80-17 (C2) Washington, 30 September 1968 + + Research and Development + + UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (UFO) + +AFR 80-17, 19 September 1966, and change 1, 26 October 1967, are changed as +follows: + +8b(3). FTD WPAFP. (first line of text: FOR TDPT (UFO).) + +8B(6). Delete. + + + +By Order of the Secretary of the Air Force + +Official J.P. McCONNELL, General USAF + Chief of Staff + + +R.J. PUGH, Colonel, USAF +Director of Administrative Services + + + + + + +DISTRIBUTION: S + + + ============================================================================= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2891.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2891.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..421f437a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2891.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,646 @@ +SUBJECT: OPERATION MAJORITY FILE: UFO2891 + + + + + OPERATION MAJORITY + FINAL RELEASE + THERE WILL BE NO CORRECTIONS MADE TO THIS FILE + C - COPYRIGHT 1989 BY MILTON WILLIAM COOPER + ALL RIGHTS RESERVED + + +This file contains the absolute true information regarding the alien +presence on earth and the US Govermments involvement with the aliens. +This file contains the information only as I saw it and only my +information. It does not contain information from any other source. + +It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to this release +in a manner which would deceive the Government until someone was able to +independently confirm my identity, my employment, my service record, my +intelligence background, the identity of the person to which i gave the +information to in 1972, his acknowledgement of the information and when + + + + +MAIL> + + + + #21 7-MAR-1990 20:38:10.59 NEWMAIL + +it was given to him, that the information is correct, that I have not +seen him since 1974, and that I have not communicated with him in any +form since 1976. This was neccesary becuase this file is my death warrant +if MJ-12 continues to operate in a manner consistent with its history. + +All the last paragraph has been independently verified by 2 different +people who have no connection to each other. I will only list one for +obvious reasons. + + + Tony Pelham, Journalist + Las Vegas Bullet (Newspaper) + 300 West Boston + Las Vegas, Nevada 89102 + + +The original information that I first released was not much different +than what you will find here. Only some names were different and just +enough (I hoped) to convince MJ-12 and MAJI that I was not a threat long +enough to have independent verification of the facts before I risked +death. I wish to make it absolutely clear that I do not consider myself +a hero. I believe that most of you would do the same thing if you knew +the truth. I gave an oath that I would uphold the Constitution of the +United States of America and I take that oath very seriously. I am doing +no more now that I did when I fought in Vietnam. I am doing my duty. + +Please make copies of this file and send it to your Congressman, your +Senator, the Attorney General of the United States, and to the Supreme +Court. Send it also to everyone you know. Attach copies of the Bill +English file and John Lears file. Send anything else which tends to +support the information. + +I Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, Fullerton, California, +92632, (714) 680-9537, do solemnly swear that the information contained +in this file is true to the best of my knowledge. I swear I saw this +information in 1972 in the performance of my duties as a member of the +Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the Pacific +Fleet as a Petty Officer in the US Navy. I swear that I can and will take +a lie detector test or any other test of any reputable persons choosing +in order to confirm this information. I swear that I can and will undergo +hypnotic regression conducted by any reputable and qualified Doctor of +any reputable persons choosing in order to confirm this information. +I will not, however submit to any test or hypnosis by anyone who is now +or has ever been connected with the Government in any capacity for +obvious reasons. + +The following is a brief listing of everything that I personally saw and +know from 1972 and does not contain imput from any other source +whatsoever. + +MAJESTY was listed as the code word for the President of the United +States for communications concerning this information. + +OPERATION MAJORITY is the name of the operation responsible for every +aspect, project, and consequence of alien presence on earth. + +GRUDGE Contains 16 volumes of documented information collected from the +beginning of the United States investigation of Unidentified Flying +Objects (UFO's) and Identified Alien Crafts (IAC). The project was funded +by CIA confidential funds (non-appropriated) and money from the illicit +drug trade. Participation in the illegal drug trade was justified in that +it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The +purpose of project GRUDGE was to collect all scientific, technological, +medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC sightings and contacts +with alien life forms. This orderly file of collected information has +been used to advance the United States Space Program. + +MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group. President Eisenhower +commissioned a secret society known as THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) +to sift through all the facts, evidence, technology, lies and deception +and find the truth of the alien question. The society was made up of 32 +most prominent men in the country in 1972 and the top 12 members were +designated MJ-12. MJ-12 has total control of everything. They are +designated by the code J-1, J-2, J-3, etc. all the way through the +members of the Jason Society. The director of the CIA is appointed J-1 +and is the director of MJ-12. MJ-12 is only responsible to the President. +MJ-12 runs most of the worlds illegal drug trade. This was done to hide +funding and thus keep the secret from Congress and the people of the +United States. It was justified in that it would identify and eliminate +the weak elements of our society. The cost of funding the alien connected +projects is higher than anything you can imagine. MJ-12 assasinated +President Kennedy when he informed them that he was going to tell the +public all the facts of the alien presence. He was killed by the Secret +Service agent driving his car and it is plainly visible in the film held +from public view. A secret meeting place was built for MJ-12 in MARYLAND +and it was described as only accessible by air. It contains full living, +recreational, and other facilities for MJ-12 and the JASON SOCIETY. +It is code named "THE COUNTRY CLUB". Only those with TOP SECRET/MAJIC +clearance are allowed to go there. + +MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE. All information, +disinformation, and intelligence is gathered and evaluated by this +agency. The agency is responsible for all disinformation and operates +in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelligence Agency. +This is a very powerful organization and all alien projects are under its +control. MAJI is only responsible to MJ-12. + +SIGMA is the project which first established communications with the +aliens and is still responsible for communications. + +PLATO is the project responsible for Diplomatic relations with the +aliens. This project secured a formal treaty (illegal under the +Constitution) with the aliens. The terms were that the aliens would give +us technology. In return we agreed to keep their presence on earth a +secret, not to interfere in any way thier actions, and to allow them to +abduct humans and animals. The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list +of abductees on a periodic basis. + +MAJIC is a security classification and clearance of all alien connected +material, projects, and information. MAJIC means MAJI controlled. + +AQUARIUS is a project which compiled the history of alien presence and +their interaction with Homo Sapiens upon this planet for the last +25,000 years and culminating with the Basque people who live in the +mountainous country on the border of France and Spain and the Syrians. + +GARNET is the project responsible for control of all information and +documents regarding this subject and accountability of the information +and documents. + +PLUTO is a project to evaluate all UFO/IAC information pertaining to +space technology. + +POUNCE is the project formed to recover all downed/crashed craft and +aliens. + +REDLIGHT is the project to test fly recovered alien craft. It is +conducted at AREA 51 (DREAMLAND) in Nevada. It was aided when the aliens +gave us craft and helped us fly them. The initial project was somewhat +successful in that we flew a recovered craft but it blew up in the air +and the pilots were killed. The project was suspended at that time until +the aliens agreed to help us. +SNOWBIRD was established as a cover for project REDLIGHT. Several flying +saucer type craft were built using conventional technology. They were +unveiled to the press and flown in front of the press. The purpose was to +explain accidental sightings or disclosure of REDLIGHT as having been +SNOWBIRD craft. + +LUNA is the alien base on the far side of the Moon. It was seen and +filmed by Apollo Astronauts. A base, a mining operation using very large +machines, and a very large alien craft described in sighting reports as +MOTHER SHIPS exist there. + +NRO is the National Recon Organization based at Fort Carson, Colorado. +It is responsible for security for all alien or alieen craft connected +projects. + +DELTA is the designation for the specific arm of the NRO which is +especially trained and tasked with security of these projects. + +JOSHUA is a project to develop a low frequency pulsed sound generating +weapon. It is said that this weapon would be effective against the +alien craft and beam weapons. + +EXCALIBUR is a weapon to destroy the alien underground bases. It is a +missile capable of penetrating 1000 meters of Tufa/hard packed soil such +as that found in New Mexico with no operational damage. Missile apogee +not to exceed 30,000 feet AGL and impact must not deviate in excess of +50 meters from designated target. The device will carry a 1 megaton +nuclear warhead. + +ALIENS, there were 4 types of aliens mentioned in the papers. A LARGE +NOSED GREY with whom we have the treaty, the GREY reported in abductee +cases that works for the LARGE NOSED GREY, a blond human like type +described as NORDIC, a red haired human like type called ORANGE. The +home of the aliens were described as being a star in the constellation +of Orion, Barnards star, and Zeta Riticuli 1 and 2. I cannot remeber +even under hypnosis which alien belongs to which star. + +EBE is the name or designation given to the live alien captured at the +1949 Roswell crash. He died in captivity. + +KRLL OR KRLLL OR CRLL OR CRLLL pronounced Crill or Krill was the hostage +left with us at the first Holloman landing as a pledge that the aliens +would carry out their part of the basic agreement that was reached during +that meeting. KRLL gave us the foundation of the yellow book which was +completed by the guests at a later date. KRLL became sick and was nursed +by Dr. G. Mendoza who became an expert in alien biology and medicine. +KRLL later died. His information was disseminated under the pseudonym +O.H. Cril or Crill. + +GUESTS were aliens exchanged for humans who gave us the balance of the +yellow book. At the time i saw the information there were only 3 left +alive. They were called (ALF's) Alien Life Forms. + +RELIGION The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens through +hybridization. The papers said the RH- blood was proof of this. They +further claim to have created all our major religions. The showed a +Hologram of the crucifixion of Christ which the Government filmed. +They claim Jesus was created by them. + +ALIEN BASES exist in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, +and Nevada. Six bases were described in the 1972 papers, all on indian +reservations and all in the four corners area. The base near Dulce was +one of them. + +MURDER The documents stated that many military and government personnel +had been terminated (murdered without due process of law) when they +attempted to reveal the secret. + +CRAFT RECOVERYS The documents stated that many craft had been recovered. +The early ones from Roswell, Aztec, Roswell again, Texas, Mexico, and +other places. + +GENERAL DOOLITTLE made a prediction that one day we would have to reckon +with the aliens and the document stated that it appeared that General +Doolittle was correct. +ABDUCTIONS were occurring long before 1972. The document stated that +humans and or animals were being abducted and or mutilated. Many +vanished without a trace. They were taking sperm and ova samples, +tissue, performed surgical operations, implanted a spherical device +40 to 80 microns in size near the optic nerve in the brain and all +attempts to remove it resulted in the death of the patient. The document +estimated that 1 out of every 40 people had been implanted. This implant +was said to give the aliens total control of that human. + +CONTINGENCY PLAN SHOULD THE INFORMATION BECOME PUBLIC OR SHOULD THE +ALIENS ATTEMPT TAKEOVER. +This plan called for a public announcement that a terrorist group had +entered the United States with an Atomic weapon. It would be announced +that the terrorists planned to detonate the weapon in a major city. +Martial law would be declared and all persons with implants would be +rounded up along with all dissidents and would be placed in concentration +camps. The press, radio, and TV would be nationalized and controlled. +Anyone attempting to resist would be arrested or killed. +CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY RELEASE OF INFORMATION +This plan called for the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a disinformation +ploy to delay and confuse the release of information should anyone get +close to the truth. It was selected because of its similarity to MJ-12. +It was designed to confuse memory and to result is a fruitless search +for material which did not exist. + +SOURCE OF THE MATERIAL CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENTS WHICH I SAW +The source of the material was an ONI counter intelligence operation +against MJ-12 in order for the Navy to find out the truth of what was +really going on. The Navy (at that time or at least the Navy that I +worked for) were not participants in any of this. The different services +and the government conduct this type of operation against each other all +the time. The result of this operation was that the Navy cut themselves +in for a piece of the action (technology) and control of some projects. + +As you can see this file is only a little different from my previous +file. Only some names were scrambled previously to confuse the +government long enough for someone to verify that what I have said is +the truth. I have added information in this file that puts my life in +absolute danger. I have sent a copy of this file to people all over +the country and will continue to do so. Please get this file into as +many hands as you can and maybe that will protect me but I doubt it. + +HISTORY WILL BE THE JUDGE OF ME AND THIS INFORMATION AND I HAVE NO FEAR +OF THAT JUDGEMENT. I SWEAR THAT THIS INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO +THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. + +I wish to thank all those people who have aided me in reaching this point +and for their patience and understanding. I owe you all more than i can +ever repay. + +Finally, it does not matter who is right or who is wrong or if a project +name is in the wrong place. It does not matter who is working for who +or what is really what. It should be obvious that somthing sinister +and terribly wrong is going on involving the government and the UFO +phenomenon. We must all band together and expose it now. I have done +my part in the best way that I could. I can add nothing else except my +testimony in Congress or a court of law that what I saw and have written +in this file is true and that I saw it. + +Everything in my previous file that does not conflict with this file is +true and correct to the best of my knowledge and some of it is from +sources and research. You may combine the files to get the entire +picture. Throw out only that information which conflicts with that +contained in this file. + +There will be no further additions or corrections to this information +either now or in the future. My file is complete and stands to be judged +by history. Sometime in the future the exact papers that I saw will +surface and you will all see this exact information contained within +them. + +Milton William Cooper + Statement Released By: + John Lear + December 29, 1987 + +John Lear, a captain for a major US Airline has flown over 160 +different types of aircraft in over 50 different countries. He +holds 17 world speed records in the Lear Jet and is the only pilot +ever to hold every airline certificate issued by the FAA. Mr. Lear +has flown missions worldwide for the CIA and other gov't agencies. +A former Nevada State Senator candidate, he is the son of William +P. Lear, designer of the Lear Jet executive airplane, the 8-track +stereo, and founder of Lear Siegler Corporation. Lear became +interested in the subject of UFO's 13 months ago after talking with +United States Air Force Personnel who had witnessed a UFO landing +at Bentwaters AFB, near London, England, and three small aliens +walking up to the Wing Commander.' + +Now that you know have a brief biography of John Lear, and read the +disclaimer of ParaNet (presumably some Bitnet service not unlike +skeptic), I will tell you that there is attached a Note to the Press +regarding Mr. Lear's knowledge of UFO's and the gov't's relationship +with "little gray extraterrestials." I don't have time to reproduce +the entire "press release," but I will reproduce what I can when I can. +Anyone know about this press release? Or care? + +The following is a continuation of a previous correspondence. It is +purportedly John Lear's Note to the Press: + + The government of the United States continues to rely on your +personal and professional gullibility to suppress the information +contained herin. Your cooperation over the past 40 years has exceeded +our wildest expectations and we salute you. + + "The sun does not revolve around the Earth" + "The United States Government has been in business with little gray + extraterrestrials for about 20 years" + +The first truth stated here got Giordano Bruno burned at the stake in +AD 1600 for daring to propose that it was real. The second truth has +gotten far more people killed trying to state it publicly than will +ever be known. + +But the truth must be told. The fact that the Earth revolves around the +sun was successfully suppressed by the church for over 200 years. It +eventually caused a major upheaval in the church, government, and +thought. A realignment of social and traditional values. That was in the +1800's. + +Now, about 400 years after the first truth was pronounced we must again +face the shocking facts. The "horrible truth" the government has been +hiding from us over 40 years. Unfortunately, the "horrible truth" is +far more horrible than the government ever imagined. + +In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the aliens. +And here is how it happened. But before I begin, I'd like to offer a +word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They had the best +of intentions. + +"Germany may have recovered a flying saucer as early as 1939. General +James H. Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to inspect a flying saucer +that had crashed there in Spitzbergen. + +The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons: They were +indeed ugly little creatures, shaped like praying mantises and who +were more advanced than us by perhaps a billion years. OF the original +group that were the first to learn the "horrible truth," several +committed suicide, the most prominent of which was General James V. +Forrestal who jumped to his death from a 16th story hospital window. +General Forrestal's medical records are sealed to this day. + +President Truman quickly put a lid on the secret and turned the screws +so tight that the general public still thinks that flying saucers are +a joke. + +Well, that's all for now. But the story get even better as it provides +an account for all of those mysterious "alien abductions" that are +always being reported on in tv shows such as "Unsolved Mysteries." + +More from the John Lear "Press Release," continuing from where I left +off: + +"In 1947, President Truman established a group of 12 of the top +military scientific personnel of their time. They were known as MJ-12. +Although the group exists today, none of the original members are +still alive. The last one to die was Gordon Gray, former Secretary of +the Army, in 1984. As each member passed away, the group itself +appointed a new member to fill the position. There is some speculation +that the group known as MJ-12 expanded to at least several members. + +There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940's, one in +Roswell, New Mexico, one Aztec, New Mexico, and one near Laredo, +Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border. + +Consider, if you will, the position of the United States Goverment +at that time. They proudly thought of themselves as the most +powerful nation on Earth, having recently produced the atomic bomb, +an achievement so stupendous, it would take Russia 4 years to catch +up, and only with the help of traitors to the Democracy. They had +built a jet aircraft that had exceeded the speed of sound in flight. +They had built jet bombers with intercontinental range that could +carry weapons of enormous destruction. The post war era, and the +future seemed bright. Now imagine what it was like for those same +leaders, all of whom had witnessed the panic of Orson Wells' radio +broadcast, "The War of the Worlds," in 1938. Thousands of Americans +panicked at a realistically presented invasion of Earth by beings +from another planet. Imagine their horror as they actually viewed +the dead bodies of these frightening looking little creatures with +enormous eyes, reptilian skin and claw like fingers. Imagine their +shock as they attempted to determine how these strange "saucers" +were powered and could discover no part even remotely similar to +components they were familiar with: no cylinders or pistons, no +vacuum tubes or turbines or hydraulic actuators. It is only when +you fully understand the overwhelming helplessness the government +was faced with in the late 40's that you can comprehend their +perceived need for a total, thorough and sweeping cover up, to +include the use of 'deadly force.'" + + +"The cover-up was so successful that as late as 1985 a senior +scientist with the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA, +Dr. Al Hibbs, would look at a video tape of an enormous +flying saucer and state the record, 'I'm not going to assign +anything to that (UFO) phenomena without a lot more data.' Dr. +Hibbs was looking at the naked emperor and saying, 'He certainly +looks naked, but that doesn't prove he's naked'." + +Stay tuned 'til next time when we see the U.S. gov't making a +deal with the ugly little creatures... + +"In July of 1952, a panicked goverment watched helplessly as a squadron +of 'flying saucers' flew over Washington, D.C., and buzzed the White +House, the Capitol Building, and the Pentagon. It took all the +imagination and intimidation the government could muster to force the +incident out of the memory of the public. + +"Thousands of sightings occurred during the Korean war and several more +saucers were retrieved by the Air Force. Some were stored at Wright- +Patterson Air Force Base, some were stored at Air Force bases near the +location of the crash sight. + +"One saucer was so enormous and the logistic problems in transportation +so enormous that it was buried at the crash sight and remains there +today. The stories are legendary on transporting crashed saucers over +long distances, moving only at night, purchasing complete farms, +slashing through forests, blocking major highways, sometimes driving +2 and 3 lo-boys in tandem with an extraterrestrial load a hundred feet +in diameter. + +"During the period of 1969-1971, MJ-12 (ed. note: MJ-12 is the special +task force for the study of UFO's) representing the U.S. Gov't made a +deal with these creatures, called EBE's (Extraterrestrial Biological +Entities, named by Detley Bronk, original MJ-12 member and 6th +president of Johns Hopkins University). The 'deal' was that in exchange +for 'technology' that they would provide to us, we agreed to 'ignore' +the abductions that were going on and suppress information on the +cattle mutilations. The EBE's assured MJ-12 that the abductions +(usually lasting abuot 2 hours) were merely the ongoing monitoring of +developing civilizations." + +Here things get wild: + +"In fact, the purposes for the abduction turned out to be: + + (1) The insertion of a 3mm spherical device through the nasal + cavity of the abductee into the brain. The device is used + for the biological monitoring, tracking, and control of the + abductee. + + (2) Implementation of Posthypnotic Suggestion to carry out a + specific activity during a specific time period, the + actuation of which will occur within the next 2 to 5 years. + +EDitor's Note: it's already been 2 years. + + (3) Termination of some people so that they could function as + living sources for biological materials and substances. + + (4) Termination of individuals who represent a threat to the + continuation of their activity. + + (5) Effect genetic engineering experiments. + + (6) Impregnation of human females and early termination of + pregnancies to secure the crossbreed infant. + +"The U.S. Gov't was not initially aware of the far reaching consequences +of their 'deal.' They were led to believe that the abductions were +essentially benign and since they figured the abductions would probably +go on anyway whether they agreed or not, they merely insisted that a +current list of abductees be submitted, on a periodic basis, to MJ-12 +and the National Security Council. Does this sound incredible? An +actual list of abductees sent to the National Security Council? Read +on, because I have news for you." + +Well, that's all for now. Next time we see that the EBE's have a +genetic disorder.... + +Thanks for following so far. + +More juice from the Lear "press release," p. 4: + +"The EBE's (extraterrestrial biological entities) have a genetic disorder +in that their digestive system is atrophied and not functional. Some +speculate that they were involved in some type of accident or nuclear +war, or possibly on the back side of and evolutionary genetic curve. In +order to sustain themselves they use an enzyme or hormonal secretion +obtained from the tissue that they extract fomr humans and animals. +Note: Cows and Humans are genetically similar. IN the event of a +national disaster, cow's blood can be used by humans (Editor's note: +does anybody know if this is true?). + +The secretions obtained are then mixed with hydrogen peroxide and +applied on the skin by spreading or dipping parts of their bodies +in the solution. the body absorbs the solution, then excretes the +wasted back through the skin. The cattle mutilations that were +prevalent throughout the period from 1973 to 1983 and publicly noted +through newspaper and magazine stories and included a documentary +produced by Linda Howe for the Denver CBS affiliate KMGH-TV, were +for the collection of these tissues by the aliens. The mutilations +included genitals taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes, +tongue, and throat all surgically removed with extreme precision. +In some cases the incisions were made by cutting between the cells, +a process we are not yet capable of performing in the field. In +many of the mutilations there was no blood found at all in the +carcass, yet there was no vascular collapse of the internal organs. +This has been also noted in the human mutilations, one of the first +of which was Sgt. Jonathan P. Louette at the White Sands Missile +Test Range in 1956, who was found three days after an Air Force Major +had witnessed his abduction by a 'disk shaped' object at 0300 while +on search for missile debris downrange. His genitals had been removed +, rectum cored out in a surgically precise 'plug' up to the colon, +eyes removed and all blood removed with, again, no vascular collapse. +From some of the evidence it is apparent that this surgery is +accomplished, in most cases, while the victim, animal or human is +still alive. + +"The various parts of the body are taken to various underground +laboratories, one of which is known to be near the small New Mexico +town of Dulce. This jointly occupied (CIA-Alien) facility has been +described as enormous, with huge tiled walls that 'go on forever.' +Witnesses have reported huge vats filled with amber liquid with +parts of human being stirred inside (Ed. note: Oooh, gross!). +"After the initial agreement, Groom Lake, one of this nation's most +secret test centers, was closed for a period of about a year, +sometime between about 1972 and 1974, and a huge underground +facility was constructed for and with the help of the EBE's. The +'bargained for' technology was set in place but could only be +operated by the EBE's themselves. Needless to say, the advanced +technology could not be used against the EBE's themselves, event if +needed. + +"During the period between 1979 and 1983 it became increasingly +obvious to MJ-12 that things were not going as planned. It became +known that many more peopl (in the thousands) were being abducted + than were listed on the official abduction lists. In addition it +became obvious that some, not all, but some of the nation's missing +children had been used for secretions and other parts required by +the aliens. + +"In 1979 there was an altercation of sorts at the Dulce laboratory. +A special armed forces unit was called in to try and free a number +of our people trapped in the facility, ho had become aware of what +was really going on. According to one source, 66 of the soldierss +were killed and our people were not freed." + +Well, that was the end of page 5. Next time, we see how this story +is/was released to the public. + +Lear's release, p. 6: + +"By 1984, MJ-12 must have been in stark terror at the mistake they had +made in dealing with the EBE's. They had subtly promoted 'Close +Encounters of the Third Kind' and 'E.T.' to get the public used to +'odd looking' aliens that were compassionate, benevolent and very much +our 'space brothers.' MJ-12 'sold' the EBE's to the public, and were +now faced with the fact that quite the opposite was true. In addition +a plan was formulated in 1968 to make the public aware of the existence +of aliens on Earth over the next 20 years to be culminated with several +documentaries to be released during 1985-1987 period of time. These +documentaries would explain the history and intentions of the EBE's. +The discovery of the 'Grand Deception' put the entire plans, hopes, and +dreams of MJ-12 into utter confusion and panic. + +"Meeting at the 'Country Club,' a remote lodge with private golf course, +confortable sleeping and working quarters, and its own private airstrip +built by and exclusively for the members of MJ-12, it was a factional +fight of what to do now. Part of MJ-12 wanted to confess +whole scheme and shambles it had become to the public, beg their forgive- +ness and ask for their supporty. The other part (and majority) of MJ-12 +argued that there was no way they could do that, that the situation was +untenable and there was no use in exciting the public with the 'horrible +truth' and that the best plan was to continue the devleopment of a +weaon that could be used against the EBE's under the guise of 'SDI,' +the Strategic Defense Initiative, which had nothing whatsoever to do +with a defense for inbound Russian nuclear missiles. As these words are +being written, Dr. Edward Teller, 'father' of the H-Bomb is personally +in the test tunnels of the Nevada Test Site, driving his workers and +associates in the words of one, 'like a man possessed.' And well he +should, for Dr. Teller is a member of MJ-12 along with Dr. Kissenger, +Admiral Bobby Inman, and possibly Admiral Poindexter, to name a few +of the current members of MJ-12. + +"Before the 'Grand Deception' was discovered and according to a +meticulous plan of metered release of infomration to the public, +several documentaries and videotapes were made. William Moore, a +Burbank, CA based UFO reseacher who wrote 'The Roswell Incident,' a +book published in 1980 that detailed the crash, recovery and +subsequent cover-up of a UFO with 4 alien bodies, has a videotape of +2 newsmen interviewing a military officer associated with MJ-12 and +the cover-up, the recovery of a number of flying saucers and the +existence of a live alien (one of 3 living aliens captured and +designated, or named, EBE-1, EBE-2, and EBE-3, being held in a +facility designated as YY-II at Los Alamos, NM. The only other +facility of this type, which is electromagnetically secure, is at +Edwards AFB in Mojabe, CA). The officer names as previously +mentioned plus a few others: Harold Brown, Richard Helms, Gen. +Vernon Walters, JPL's Dr. Lew Allen and Dr. Theodore von Karman, to +name a few of the current and past members of MJ-12. + +"The officer also relates the fact that the EBE's claim to have +created Christ. The EBE's have a type of recording device that has +recorded all of Earth's history and can display it in the form of +a hologram. This hologram can be filmed but because of the way +holograms work does not come out very clearly on movie film or +videotape. The crucifixion of Christ on the Mount of Olives has +allegedly been put on film to show the public. The EBE's claim to +have created Christ, which, in view of the 'Grand Deception', could be +an effort to disrupt traditional values for undetermined reasons. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2892.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2892.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..88054f42 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2892.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +SUBJECT: NOTES TO AQUARIUS II FILE: UFO2892 + + + + +Notes to AQUARIUS II: + +1. Moore explains the origin of the document as follows: +"This is an actual example of some of the disinformation produced in +connection with the Bennewitz case. The document is a retyped cversion +of a real AFOSI message with a few spurious additions. It was apparently +created by AFOSI, or at least I always assumed it was, and it was handed +to me in February 1981 with the intention that I would pass it to +Bennewitz. My understanding, although I never knew for sure, was that +Bennewitz was expected to wave it to the press and others as proof of +what he was saying about an alien invasion, at which point the document +would be denounced as a counterfeit and Bennewitz would be further +discredited. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, depending upon one's +point of view) it didn't turn out that way." + +2. In an attempt to be as true as possible to the actual document, I +have purposely formatted lines beyond the normal 80 character limit. For +this reason, I suggest you download the document and view it with a text +processor that allows you to view files with line lengths > 80 chars. + +3. According to Moore, the text of this document is the same as it +appeared in the oroginal message, except as follows: + +4. Material in [braces] indicates that material which appeared in the +original message was REMOVED and REPLACED by spurious text. + +5. Material appearing in {curly braces} indicates totally spurious +material which was ADDED to the legitimate text of the original message. + +6. The symbol XXXX indicates places where transmission codes from the +original were removed and not replaced. + +7. "WINTEL" in a genuine message would be "WNINTEL" (Western AFOSI +Office) + +8. "SPA" means Special Purpose Access. + +9. Misspellings, to the best of my ability, are true to the document. + +10. A discussion will follow in a subsequent file. + + --Jim Speiser + + +BEGIN DOCUMENT +_____________________________________________________________________________ + + + S E C R E T +XXXXXXXXXX *********** +XXXXXXXXXX * SECRET * + *********** + +RTTEZYVW RUFLOJA9136 XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX +ZNY S E C R E T +GT +SECRET FOR AFOSI ONLY +R 171139Z NOV 80 +FM HQ AFOSI BOLLING AFB DC//IVOE +TO RUWTFBA AFOSI DIST 17 KIRTLAND AFB NM//BID +INFO 7602 AINTELG FT BELVOIR VA//[INSR] +SECRET FOR AFOSI ONLY +REF:REQUEST FOR PHOTO IMAGERY INTERPRETATION YOUR MSG 292030Z OCT 80. +SUBJECT CASE NR: 8017D93-126 HQ CR 44 +1. SUBJECT NEGATIVES/FILM WERE ANALYZED BY HQ IVT AND 7602 AINTELG/IT AND THE +FOLLOWING RESULTS WERE FOUND: +A. NEGATIVE #1: DEPLICTING C-5A AIRCRAFT ON APPROACH AND STREAKING UNIDENTIFIED +AERIAL OBJECT IN LOWER RIGHT PORTION OF FILM. FILM FOUND TO BE UNALTERED. SIZE +DIFFERENTIAL WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH SIZE OF AIRCRAFT. CONCLUSION: INCONCLUSIVE +B. NEGATIVE #2; DEPLICTING CYLINDER SHAPED UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL OBJECT IN UPPER +LEFT PORTION OF PHOTO. FILM FOUND TO BE UNALTERED. FILM SHOWED OBJECT TO BE +CONSISTENT WITH FIELD DEPH AND CONSISTENT WITH RELATIVE SIZE OF FIXED OBJECTS. +CONCLUSION: LEGITIMATE NEGATIVE OF UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL OBJECT. {BOLTON,REINFELD +METHOD DID NOT REVEAL VISIBLE MARKINGS ON OBJECT.} +C. NEGATIVE #3: DEPLICTING IRRECULAR SHAPED UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL OBJECT IN +SEVEN FRAMES OF 8MM FILM. BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND APPARENT SPEED OF OBJECT +NO FURTHER CLASSIFICATION OR CONCLUSION COULD BE DRAWN. FILM SHOWN TO BE +UNALTERED. +D. 34 INCHES OF 8MM FILM: DEPLICTING APPARENT COLORED OBJECT MOVING IN FRONT +OF STILL CAMERA. FILM FOUND TO BE UNALTERED. SPECTROGRAPHY REVEALED COLORES TO +BE BASIC PRISM FEATURES. DEPTH ANALYSIS REVEALED OBJECT TO BE WITHIN 152MM OF +CAMERA. OBJECT WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH RELATIVE SIZE OF FIXED OBJECTS OBSERVED +FOR SEVERAL SECONDS IN FILM. CONCLUSION: INCONCLUSIVE. +E. ORIGINAL NEGATIVE DEPLICTING UNIDENTIFIED OBJECT. FILM FOUND TO BE UNALTERED. +BECAUSE OF A LACK OF FIXED OBJECTS IN THE FILM, NO DEPTH ANALYSIS COULD BE +PERFORMED. {BOLTON,REINFELD METHOD REVEALED OBJECT TO BE SAUCER SHAPED, +APPROXIMATE DIAMETER 37 FEET. OBJECT CONTAINED A TRILATERAL INSIGNIA ON THE +LOWER PORTION OF OBJECT.} CONCLUSION: LEGITIMATE NEGATIVE OF UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL +OBJECT. +2. REF YOUR REQUEST FOR FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING HQ CR 44, THE FOLLOWING +IS PROVIDED: [CAPT. GRACE] 7602 AINTELG, INS CONTACTED AND RELATED FOLLOWING: (S/[WINTEL]) +USAF NO LONGER PUBLICLY ACTIVE IN UFO RESEARCH, HOWEVER USAF STILL HAS INTEREST +IN ALL UFO SIGHTINGS OVER USAF INSALLATION/TEST RANGES. SEVERAL OTHER GOVERNMENT +AGENCIES, LEAD BY [NASA], ACTIVELY INVESTIGATES LEGITIMATE SIGHTINGS THROUGH COVERT +COVER. (S/[WINTEL/FSA]) {ONE SUCH COVER IS UFO REPORTING CENTER, US COAST AND GEODETIC +SURVEY, ROCKVILLE, MD 20852. NASA FILTERS RESULTS OF SIGHTINGS TO APPROPRIATE +MILITARY DEPARTMENTS WITH INTEREST IN THAT PARTICULAR SIGHTING. THE OFFICIAL +US GOVERNMENT POLICY AND} RESULTS OF PROJECT AQUARIUS IS STILL CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET +WITH NO DISSEMINATION OUTSIDE OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CHANNELS AND WITH RESTRICTED +ACCESS TO "MJ TWELVE". CASE ON BENNEWITZ IS BEING MONITORED BY [NASA/INS], WHO +REQUEST ALL FUTURE EVIDENCE BE FORWARDED TO THEM THRU AFOSI/IVOE. +4. REF YOUR REQUEST FOR TEHCNICAL ASSISTANCE. BECAUSE OF A CHANCE OF PUBLIC +DISCLOSURE, NO KNOLWEDGEABLE PERSONNEL WITH SPA WILL BE PROVIDED. CONTINUE TO RECEIVE +ASSISTANCE FROM INDIVIDUALS MENTIONED IN YOUR MESSAGE, MILLER, FUGATE. BECAUSE OF +THE SENSITIVITY OF CASE, REQUEST THEY BE THOROUGHLY DEBRIEFED AT REGULAR INTERVALS. +BTS_________XXXXXXXX +NNNS +DOWNGRADE 17NOV2020 + *********** + * SECRET * + *********** + S E C R E T + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2893.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2893.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4362557c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2893.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,151 @@ + +SUBJECT: A MEMBER OF MJ-12 SAID CIVIL WAR COMING FILE: UFO2893 + + + + +Thu 30 Jul 92 2:44 +By: Don Allen +To: all +Re: "October Surprise" +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +This was sent to me by a friend who typed it up from a bulletin +sent out from the C.A.C. (Cosmic Awareness) group, out in +Washington State. I'm posting it as-is and am asking anyone +who reads it to please take it with a BIG grain of salt. This +info has NOT been verified. Anyone who can verify or refute +it, please have at it. This will be posted to all the UFO +conferences. - Don +------------------------------------------------------------------- + + ATTENTION: CIVIL WAR IS ABOUT TO BEGIN IN THE UNITED STATES! + YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES ARE IN ACUTE DANGER! RACE RIOTS AND + SLAUGHTER OF AMERICANS WILL BE THE FIRST SIGN! + + THIS IS NO JOKE! On July 4, 1992, at a UFO convention in Arca- + dia, CA, Mr. Michael Younger, a member of the super-secret COM-12 + group and a scientist who worked at Groom Lake, Area 51 in + Nevada, stunned the audience of over 200 people with the + following incredible information, which, if true, endangers the + lives and freedoms of every American. Here is the amazing sce- + nario of the planned events: + + Beginning in August of this year, 1992, a conspiracy long at work + behind the scenes of our government, will make its first overt + move. These conspirators plan to create a dictatorship in the + United States, suspend our Constitution and attempt to confiscate + all guns and firearms in American homes. Stage 1 being to create + "race riots" in major U.S. cities such as New York, Chicago, + Detroit, etc.; these to begin in August. This will be preceded + by a month of subliminal programming via TV and other media to + condition the people for civil war in the United States. The + accent will be on rap records such as "Body Count" released by + Time-Warner (a Rockefeller corporation) by musicians "Ice Tea" + and "Sister Solj" whose lyrics in such songs as "Cop Killers" are + designed to inflame and polarize its listeners. These rap songs + contain such lines as "kill white policemen," "kill the pigs", + "kill whitey", and "Why not kill whitey, if he can kill us?" etc. + + In August Stage 2, code-named "Operation Hot August Nights" will + take effect. Special agents of the conspiracy, masquerading as + police, will open fire on minorities, namely Black Americans and + Hispanics and orientals. Other agents will set off incendiary + bombs as they did recently in the Los Angeles riots, which essen- + tially was a "test case" that surpassed the expectations of the + conspirators. These special agents, masquerading as police, + massacre these Blacks and minorities and fire at the real police- + men. This brings in more police and the riots escalate. "Skin + heads" and other gangs, already fully armed, join in the fray. + The real police, vastly outnumbered, cannot handle the rioting. + The National Guard is called in and fired upon by these special + agents masquerading as gang members, who also enlist other gang + members to fight the police and national guardsmen. These riots + continue through August, with many minority Americans slaughtered + in major cities. + + State 3: In September, President Bush calls in United Nations + troops to quash the riots and restore law and order. American + troops had indicated they did not wish to fight against American + civilians. Bush executes Executive Orders, already in effect, + which now give the UN forces complete rights and freedom to enter + American homes, to confiscate all devices that are capable of + communicating information, which includes video cameras, VCRs, + computers, mimeographs, anything that can print, copy machines, + etc. These troops are furnished certain lists of names, particu- + larly those know as "Patriots" and these patriots and their + families are rounded up first, and if not executed on the spot, + are sent to any of the 13 concentration camps now fully activated + in the United States. There is nobody left to tell what really + happened. Curious neighbors will be told it was a justified + "drug raid." Those who escape to the hills and mountains are + hunted down by 'search and destroy' troops, specially trained for + mountain warfare. During September all borders will be closed + down, as well as airports. No one is allowed to leave the United + States. + + Stage 4: In October an "official" announcement will be carried + live on TV, that extraterrestrial aliens, probably Zeta Reticuli + 'Greys' have invaded the Earth, with some actual aliens + introduced on the show. (This is actually a fake invasion). The + aliens have been on Earth for many years, made treaties and + agreements with our governments; there are millions of them in + secret underground complexes such as Dulce, New Mexico, which are + responsible for the abduction of American children and citizens + and the cattle mutilations documented in books and on TV, such as + the recent special "Intruders". This announcement will cause the + entire world to mobilize under UN supervision to fight the 'inva- + ders'. + + During November the chaos continues and more UN troops pour into + the United States, mostly mercenaries who have fought in African + nations and other 'hot spots' previously. (The butchery of these + troops is well documented). + + Stage 5: In December a well-planned "crash" of the stock market + will occur, a dramatic drop to at least 1500 on the DJ Industrial + Average. This event planned to further weaken, panic and confuse + the population. + + Stage 6: In February or March, 1993, President Bush will be + assassinated by the conspirators and Vice President Dan Quayle + will become President of the United States (this an option if + Bush moves too slowly). The Constitution of the United States is + suspended and the people are now living under martial law in a + totally fascist state. + + Who are these conspirators? According to Mike Younger, at the + end of World War II, Nelson Rockefeller brought 3000 high Nazi + party officials from Germany illegally into the U.S., without + permission. As of today it is believed there are now 1.6 million + Nazis in the U.S., many high in government and major corpora- + tions, such as Atlantic Richfield in New Jersey. Incredibly, + these Nazi fascists are attempting to set up a "4th Reich" to + continue the thousand-year plan of Adolph Hitler, with eventual + intent to eliminate "non Aryan" people such as Jews, Blacks and + other 'dissidents'. In January, 2000, when the "real" alien + invasion occurs, the planet will be officially turned over to the + alien invaders, the Nazi rulers expecting to get 25% of the Earth + for themselves. + + The writers of this document did not originate the above + material, but are simply passing this information along to you to + do with what you feel is necessary. We have no way of knowing + that these things will happen (we hope and pray they do not), but + if any of the above should occur, you can rest assured the bal- + ance of this evil scenario will follow. Their two main immediate + goals are to disarm American citizens and suspend our Constitu- + tion. + + URGENT: MAKE 30 COPIES AND MAIL TO MEDIA, POLITICIANS, CHURCHES, + ORGANIZATIONS. POST ON BULLETIN BOARDS, PASS OUT TO CITIZENS IN + THE STREETS! TIME IS RUNNING OUT! ACT NOW! + + +------------------------------------------------------------------------ + +Don + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2894.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2894.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..632d244d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2894.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,573 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON AREA51 FILE: UFO2894 + + +PART 1 + + +November 11, 1989 + + + + ParaNet Information Service (Denver, CO)--This evening saw + +perhaps an unprecedented event in UFOlogy. KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, + +Nevada has been airing a UFO special during the evening news + +which began on Monday dealing with the UFO mystery and cover-up. + +The series, which has been covered by ParaNet, began its coverage + +with a history of UFOs beginning in the late 1940s and moving + +forward through the numerous sighting reports to the cattle + +mutilations, which was aired last evening. As promised at the + +close of last evening's show, George Knapp, a news anchorman for + +Channel 8 in Vegas, stated that a scientific person would be + +featured on tonight's program who has claimed to work at Area 51, + +the government's super-secret test range at Nevada Test Site at + +Mercury, Nevada. + +Indeed, quite a story was told by Robert Lazar, a physicist who + +claimed that he had worked on a project at Area 51 involving + +flying disks provided by alien intelligences. + + Over the last year, ParaNet has carried stories relating to + +possible involvement with the government in projects of this + +nature at the Nevada test site. Up to now, the stories have been + +of a very speculative nature. Although the material presented by + +Robert Lazar remains unconfirmed, enough information has been + +disclosed that ParaNet's large investigative staff in Nevada has + +started an intensive investigation into this release. Both Lazar + +(formerly known only as "Dennis") and Lear have appeared on + +Channel 8 -- Lear appearing on numerous occasions together will + +Bill Cooper discussing Lear's famous 'ET Hypothesis.' On a past + +KLAS-TV report, Lear was shown to have traveled to locations + +appearing to overlook the test site which purportedly provided a + +good view of the objects as they flew into the night sky. Lear + +attempted to shoot video of an object as it maneuvered through + +the night sky during last summer, however nothing was captured on + +the tape of a substantive nature. Lear also relates that his + +group was harassed by a Lincoln County sheriff following his + +attempts to take the pictures. + + Below is a transcript of the program that aired this + +evening. All paragraphs out of quotes are the narrator of the + +segment. We were as accurate as possible on the transcription, + +however there are a couple of places where comments were edited + +out due to inability to understand what was being said. + + Further reports will be provided as information becomes + +available. + +================================================================= + + + + We've been working on the story for some time....UFO + +researchers claim that there is a secret government within our + +government. Now this may be hard to believe coming from the UFO + +perspective, but we have learned that Watergate and the Iran + +Contra scandal that factions within our government can and do + +pursue their own hidden agendas outside of the law; outside the + +control of the Congress or the knowledge of the American people. + +This is exactly the type of operation that we hear about tonight. + +It's a chilling scenario with worldwide implications that may + +have its roots right here [Las Vegas, Nevada]. + + Area 51, that mysterious corner of the Nevada Test Site, is + +no longer considered a secret. The fact that secretive things + +go on here isn't evident; even to the Soviets who make daily spy + +flights over the facility to take a peek at what's going on. + +These photos, never before shown in public, are about as close as + +anyone will ever come to seeing what the place looks like again. + +The dry bed at Groom Lake, the corrugated buildings, a three-mile + +long runway and some highly sophisticated radar and detection + +equipment. Its been known by many names over the years -- + +Dreamland; The Ranch; The Skunk Works. If ever there was a place + +to test the secret new technology, this is it. And that's + +exactly what has been done here for decades. + + Area 51 is where Francis Gary Powers and the other U-2 + +pilots were trained in the 50s. And, where the U-2 itself was + +developed. The SR-71 spy plane that spotted Soviet missiles in + +Cuba in the early 60s were also developed at 51. 51 is where + +Stealth technology was nurtured, where Star Wars devices are + +still tested, and where all manner of CIA [unknown] business has + +been plotted and refined. It's the perfect place for secret + +things, but of course, that's no secret. 51 is ringed by the + +forbidden vastness of the Nevada test site; by the looming Groom + +Mountain and by sparsely populated desert expanses. But the + +people that do live out here have no love lost for the military, + +but they're conservative, patriotic and they mind their own + +business. + + + +Interviewer questioning a nearby resident of Area 51: "Ever see + +something that you can't explain?" + +Resident: "Sure, lots of times." + +Interviewer: "Care to elaborate?" + +Resident: "No." (Laughter). + + + + On any given night at the Rachel Bar and Grill, you might + +find three or four people who work at Area 51. They are among + +the flowing Budweiser and the cowboy hats. You might find them, + +but they are not going to talk to. Not about the things that + +they have seen over the mountain. A steady trickle of curiosity- + +seekers flows through here; strangers, drawn by strange stories + +of lights in the night sky. Their questions also go unanswered. + +No one who has worked at Dreamland has ever publicly acknowledged + +what so many people have suspected for years: That alien + +technology is being tested in the Nevada desert. + + The speculation first surfaced in documents obtained by UFO + +researchers. Documents about something called Project Aquarius. + +The document allegedly prepared for an organization called MJ-12, + +states that a program to fly recovered alien spacecraft was + +established in 1972 and is continuing in Nevada. The National + +Security Agency has confirmed it does have a Project Aquarius but + +denies that it has anything to do with flying saucers. NSA will + +not say what Project Aquarius is. + + Speculation was heightened in 1984, when the Air Force + +seized nearly 90,000 acres around Groom Lake. The action was, by + +most accounts, illegal. During Congressional hearings about the + +land grab, Congressman John Siberling grilled the military about + +the legal authority used in the action and was told the authority + +was at a much, much higher level than the Air Force. + +Siberling asked what authority is higher than the laws of the + +United States? The Air Force official said he could respond, but + +only in a closed briefing. In 1987, when the Air Force sought to + +renew its stranglehold on the Groom range, news articles once + +again mentioned the talk about alien spacecraft and subsequent + +articles in national magazines quoted un-named sources about + +things of alien origin flying in Nevada. Things that would make + +film-maker George Lucas drool. Despite the speculation, no one + +who knew Area 51 from the inside ever talked publicly about the + +saucer story. + + + +Bob Lazar: "Well, there's several uh, actually nine uh flying + +saucers, flying disks that are out there of extraterrestrial + +origin." The live interview with the shadowy "Dennis" drew + +international attention. Portions were broadcast by radio in six + +European countries, and in a nationally televised TV special in + +Japan. + + Despite numerous inquiries and "feelers," "Dennis" has + +remained anonymous until now. His real name is Robert Lazar. A + +young scientist with eclectic interests. The choice of "Dennis" + +was an inside joke -- he says that's the name of his superior at + +Groom Lake. It wasn't a joke to Dennis. + + + +Lazar: "He called right after and said, 'Do you have any idea + +what we're going to do to you now?' and I said no, and he hung up + +the phone." + + + + Lazar's story is by any standard, fantastic. He says he's + +telling it in order to protect himself. He said he was hired to + +work in area called S-4 which is a few miles south of Groom Lake. + +At S-4, he says, are flying saucers, anti-matter reactors and + +other working examples of technology that is seemingly beyond + +human capabilities. + + + +Lazar: "Right. This stuff came from somewhere else. I know it + +is hard to believe, but it is there and I saw it. I know what + +the current state-of-the-art is in physics and it it can't be + +done." + + + + Checking out Lazar's credentials proved to be a difficult + +task. He says he holds degrees in physics and electronics, but + +the schools that we contacted say they've never heard of him. He + +says he also worked as a physicist at Los Alamos National + +Labs where he worked with one of the world's largest particle + +beam accelerators, a half-mile long 'behemoth' capable of + +generating seven-hundred million volts. Los Alamos officials + +told us they have no record of Robert Lazar ever working there. + +They were either mistaken or were lying. A 1982 phone book from + +the Lab lists Lazar right there among the other scientists and + +technicians. A 1982 news clipping from the Los Alamos newspaper + +profiled Lazar and his interest in jet cars. It, too, mentioned + +his employment at the Lab as a physicist. We called Los Alamos + +again, and an exasperated official told us he still had no + +records on Lazar. EG&G, which is where Lazar says he was + +interviewed for the job at S-4, also has no record. It's as if + +someone has made him disappear. + + + +Lazar: "Well, they're trying to make me look non-existent to the + +places that I called...." + +Interviewer: "Explain. Called where?" + +Lazar: "Well, the schools that I went to; the hospital that I + +was born at; past jobs, and nothing comes up with my name on it." + + + + He smiles, but out of futility, knowing the whole thing must + +sound ridiculous. According to Lazar, his employer was the + +United States Navy. He says he and other government employees + +would gather near EG&G, fly to Groom Lake, then a very few people + +would get into a bus with blacked out or no windows and drive to + +S-4. + + + +Interviewer: "You get off the bus, what do you see?" + +Lazar: "A very interesting building. Its got a slope of + +probably about 30 degrees which are hangar doors, and it has + +textured paint on it, but it looks like sand. It's made to look + +like the side of the mountain that it is in, whether it's to + +disguise it from satellite photographs or what...." + + + + He says he was never told exactly what he would be working + +on, but figured it had something to do with advanced propulsion. + +On his first day he was told to read a series of briefings, and + +immediately realized how advanced the propulsion really was. + + + +Lazar: "The power source is an anti-matter reactor. They run + +gravity amplifiers. There is actually two parts to the drive + +mechanism. It's a bizarre technology. There is no physical + +hookups between any of the systems in there. They use gravity as + +a wave using wave guides that look like microwaves." + + + + It took awhile, Lazar says, before he actually saw one of + +the flying disks, however there were hints everywhere. + + + +Lazar: "Right. They had a poster, and it looked like a + +commercial poster, like it was lithographed, like you could buy + +it at K-Mart or someplace, but they were all over the place and + +it had the disk that I coined the term 'the floor model' which + +lifted off the ground about 3 feet out at the area, in the Dry + +Lakes area, and the caption on it said 'They're here.' These + +posters were all over the place." + + + + Later, he got to see the real thing. + + + +Lazar: "When I was led in, it was the first time that I saw the + +'floor model' in the hangar sitting down, and I was told they + +could have walked me in the front door but they purposely wanted + +to walk me by it. I was told not to say anything and to keep my + +eyes forward and walk past the disk to the office area. And I + +did. And as we went by it, I just kinda stuck my hands on it, + +just to run it alongside the thing and uh ....After that I got to + +see actually lift off the ground and operate." + +Interviewer: "You actually got to see more than one?" + +Lazar: "Yeah. The hangars are all connected together. There + +are large bay doors between each one. There were nine total that + +I saw, each one being different. Like they had the assortment + +pack." + + + + Security at S-4 was oppressive Lazar said, and his superiors + +used fear and intimidation almost as a brainwashing tool. + + + +Lazar: "They did everything but physically hurt me." + +Interviewer: "They put a gun to your head?" + +Lazar: "Yeah." + +Interviewer: "You mean they actually put a gun to your head?" + +Lazar: "They did that even in the original security briefing. + +Guards there with M-16s. Guys there slamming their fingers into + +my chest, screaming into my ear, they were pointing weapons at + +me. Like I said, it's not a good place to work." + + + + That fear factor would surface later. Lazar agreed to + +undergo a polygraph exam as part of this report. Polygrapher Ron + +Clay asked about the technology that Lazar had seen. + + + +Polygrapher: "Did you knowingly lie when you had actually seen + +anti-gravity propulsion in operation?" + +Lazar: "No." + + + + The results of this exam were inconclusive. Lazar appeared + +to be truthful on one test; deceitful on a second. Clay + +recommended that a second examiner be brought in. Polygrapher + +Terry Tabernetti (sp?) runs a corporate security operation and is + +a former Los Angeles police officer. He put Lazar through four + +tests and concluded there were no attempts to deceive. + + Tabernetti sent his test results to a third polygrapher who + +agreed the results appeared truthful. The charts were then sent + +to a fourth examiner who did not agree suggesting that Lazar + +might be relating information he'd learned from someone else. + +The polygraphers concurred and decided they would not issue a + +final statement on truthfulness until more specific testing can + +be conducted. And that's where it stands. + + Tabernetti believes the difficulty in determining Lazar's + +truthfulness stems from the fear that was drilled into him. + + + +Lazar: "Well, I am telling the truth. I've tried to prove that. + +What's going on up there could be the most important event in + +history. You're talking about contact, physical contact and + +proof from another planet, another system, another intelligence. + +Thats got to be the biggest event in history, period. And, it's + +real and it's there. And I had an extremely small part in it. + +I'm convinced that what I saw is absolute proof of that. There + +is no way that we could have created those disks. There is no + +way we could have made the disks, the power supplies, anything + +that goes with it." + + + + Lazar says he has no intention of going on any UFO lecture + +circuit. He is not looking to do any additional interviews. In + +fact, he was not too crazy about doing this one. He did it after + +certain unfavorable things started happening in his life, and he + +did it because he feels that whoever is running the show up at S- + +4 is perpetrating a fraud on the American people and the + +scientific community. + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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The allegations about the secret facility near the Groom + +Mountains first surfaced on Eyewitness News on last Friday + +[November 10, 1989]. + + Scientist Bob Lazar says that there are at least nine of the + +flying saucers being tested and that they were not built on + +Earth. George Knapp has more on the continuation of our series + +on UFOs. + + + +Lazar: "Yeah. It was obvious it came from somewhere else, uh, + +other than Earth." + + + + Scientist Bob Lazar was convinced that the technology he saw + +being tested at a secret base in the Nevada desert is of alien + +origin, and for Lazar the proof is, at least, partially in the + +furniture. One of the nine flying disks he says he saw at the + +base, which was designated S-4, looks exactly like this UFO + +photographed in Europe [Photo of UFO shown]. Lazar called it + +the "sport model." + + + +Lazar: "I gave everything names -- the top hat one and you know + +the jello mold and, uh, the sport model operated without any + +hitches at all. I mean, it looked new. If I knew what a new + +flying saucer looked like. One of them looked like it was hit + +with some sort of a projectile. It had a large hole in the + +bottom and a large hole in the top with the metal bent out like + +some sort of, you know, large caliber 4 or 5 inch had gone + +through it." + + + + Even before he saw the sport model operate, Lazar says, he + +suspected that the ship came from somewhere else. The + +realization slapped him in the face the first time he glimpsed + +the inside of the disk. + + + +Lazar: "I got to look inside and it had really small chairs. I + +think that was the first confirmation I had. That was just a + +shocking thing because everytime before that I was able to label + +it. This is just a little advance that a group of scientists had + +formed and, you know, they're keeping it secret, and yeah, we + +could have built a big disk like that, and yeah, that's no + +problem, and, you know, we could have adapted the use(?) to make + +it fly, but why does it have little furniture inside? [garbled]. + +And things began to click together just all too fast." + + + + A few of the disks had been completely dismantled to find + +out how they worked, Lazar says, but others were fully + +operational. A Japanese TV network created this animated version + +of Lazar's story after his first interview with us aired in May + +[showing video]. Lazar says the dramatization is similar to a + +test flight he witnessed. + + + +Lazar: "The bottom of it glowed blue and began to hiss like any, + +like high voltage does on a round sphere. It's my impression + +that the reason that they're round and have no sharp edges is to + +contain the high voltage like, uh, if you've seen a high voltage + +system's insulators -- things are round or else you get a corona + +discharge. In either case, it began to hiss as in high voltage + +and it lifted off the ground quietly except for that little hiss + +in the background, and that stopped as soon as it reached about + +20 or 30 feet." + + + + Lazar says the test of the sport model was a short one -- + +that it made only a few moves before setting back down. He + +didn't see who was actually flying the craft, but was very + +impressed, nonetheless. + + + +Lazar: "Well, there's no action reaction system to it. There's + +no, like in a jet engine, exhaust gas being thrown out -- no + +propeller, no noise. It's just, for all intents and purposes, + +magic." + + + + To Lazar's knowledge, the flying disks are not being used, + +for say, any flights to Jupiter. He said excessive caution and + +intense secrecy contributed to the plodding pace of the program + +and were a main source of his disenchantment. + + + +Lazar: "It's just unfair, outright, not to put it in the hands + +of the overall scientific community. There are people much more + +capable of dealing with this information, and by this time would + +have gotten a lot further along than this small select group of + +people working out in the middle of the desert. They don't even + +have the facilities, really, to completely analyze what they're + +dealing with." + + + +Gene Huff: "Well he was being quiet. If he kept me abreast of + +anything, he kept me abreast of the security checks -- they'd + +randomly drop by his house. They'd threaten his life; they'd + +threaten his wife's life. They had done all that so we really + +didn't converse, I mean, he really was adhering to the program." + + + + Gene Huff is a Las Vegas real estate appraiser. A regular + +guy who just happens to have a friend in the flying saucer + +business. He learned about Lazar's S-4 experiences only after a + +long period. Lazar is anxious for people to know that he didn't + +just run right out and spill the secrets of the universe, and + +that some things are properly kept confidential. + + + +Lazar: "I did not believe that this should be a security matter. + +Some of it, sure. But, just the concept that there's definite + +proof, and uh, we even have articles from another world, another + +system, you just can't not tell everyone. A lot of people don't + +believe that. But, I do." + + + + When he reached what he felt was his bursting point, he took + +Huff and a few others to the edge of the Groom Mountains to see + +the flights for themselves. A total of five witnesses on two + +consecutive weeks managed to dodge security patrols long enough + +to see the strange glowing object lift above the mountain. + + + +Huff(?): "Uh, it came up above the same mountain. It moved + +around. It did a step move -- it actually went up in the air + +like this [showing details with hands] and it hovered then + +dropped way down then it just floated around and cruised around. + +It starts coming up the mountain range...." + + + + This home video tape was recorded during one of the trips to + +the Groom Mountains [showing video tape. A lot of + +talking....Object in sight....Mention of brightness of the + +object....]. + + Admittedly, the tape proves very little by itself because, + +with the distance and darkness, there are no reference points + +other than the alleged flying disk, but Lazar's information about + +the time and location of the test flight proves correct -- not + +once but twice. That, according to our off-camera interviews + +with each of the other witnesses. Gene Huff describes his second + +sighting: + + + +Huff: "Through the telescope we could see an elliptical-shaped + +light. You can only get so close even with a telescope to a + +secure facility. Anyway, it came up by us very rapidly. It + +glowed and glows brighter like a star and we almost got the + +feeling that it was going to explode, it glowed so brightly. We + +backed up behind the car then it went down and glowed back up a + +little bit and then very softly glided back over, back where the + +mountains where it came up, hovered for awhile, and then that's + +that....Just like you see in the movies." + + + + Bob Lazar isn't the only person to claim "inside knowledge" + +of the flying disks at the test site -- he is just the only + +person to say so publicly. We have communicated with several + +people who say they know of the saucer program. A technician in + +a highly sensitive position told us it is "common knowledge among + +those with high security clearances that recovered alien disks + +are stored at the Nevada test site." A Las Vegas professional, + +who once served in the military and was stationed at the test + +site, said he saw a flying disk land outside the boundaries of + +Area 51 -- that it was quickly surrounded by security personnel + +and that he was taken away and debriefed for several hours. A + +man who once worked at Groom Lake as a technician, at our + +request, wrote this letter explaining how he inadvertently walked + +into the wrong hangar and saw what appeared to be a large + +metallic disk under a tarp. It was being examined by men in lab + +coats. And, an airman who worked at Nellis at a radar + +installation says he and his fellow servicemen watched over a + +period of five nights, unusual objects flying over the Groom + +Mountains. He says the radar images indicates the objects zoomed + +into range at speeds of 7,000 miles per hour and then would stop + +on a dime, and that nothing we have is capable of doing that. + +The airman says that when word of his sighting got out, he was + +ordered to turn off his radar sensors for that area and told to + +keep quiet about the matter because it did not happen. + + None of this means that the military is actually flying + +alien spacecraft in the Nevada desert. It could all perhaps be + +explained as some other secret program. Lazar insists that's not + +the case. + + We put the matter to the U.S. Navy, which according to + +Lazar, is running the saucer show. Four different naval offices + +were contacted. All denied having any information in their + +files. The Naval Research Lab said it conducted a thorough + +search but found "zip." Naval Intelligence said much the same + +thing, adding, it is not required to create a file where one + +doesn't exist. A side note: We also requested files on a UFO + +sighting over Tremonton, Utah in 1952. The Navy spent more than + +a thousand hours studying film of that sighting -- a fact that's + +been noted in several publications -- but, for purposes of our + +request, the Navy couldn't find those files either. + + + +Lazar: "The group that runs this project, whether it really is + +the Navy or they just say that, apparently these people have + +executive power -- they don't report to anyone." + + + + Tomorrow, more troubling allegations of the military + +potential of alien technology. + + + +================================================================= + +tions of the military + +potential of alien technology. + + + +=================================================== + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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The area is designated S-4, and + +according to one man who claims to have worked there, S-4 harbors + +scientific achievements that would astonish our deepest + +thinkers. It is technology that, if it exists, could change the + +world, but is allegedly bottled up by military minds. + + + +Lazar: "It's not an overall government project. It's not + +something that Congress appropriates money for. 2 billion is for + +this; 15 billion for flying saucers; 8 billion for Star Wars. It + +doesn't go like that. I don't believe that they have any + +knowledge of it at all." + + + + The technology that Bob Lazar says he saw extends far beyond + +flying saucers. An anti-matter reactor allows the spaceships to + +produce their own gravitational fields, he says, such a + +technology, if real, would answer UFO skeptics who argue that + +aliens could never visit Earth because the distances between + +worlds are too great, even at the speed of light. + + + +Lazar: "Gravity distorts time and space. Just like if you had a + +water bed and put a bowling ball in the middle. It warps it down + +like that -- that's exactly what happens to space. Imagining + +that you were in a spacecraft that could exert a tremendous + +gravitational field by itself you could sit on any particular + +place and turn on the gravity generator and actually warp space + +and time, and fold it. By shutting that off, you'd click back + +and you'd be a tremendous distance from where you were but time + +would not have even moved because you essentially shut it off. I + +mean it is so far fetched, people....it's difficult for people to + +grasp, and as stubborn as the scientific community is they'll + +never buy it, but this is, in fact, that's just what happens." + + + + Actually, Lazar's explanation is very close to mainstream + +scientific thought, and can be traced directly to Einstein. The + +difference is scientists regard it as theory only. There is much + +that science still doesn't know. + + + +Dale Etheridge (Scientist): "There are people who say that our + +main problem with that is we don't know what gravity is. It's + +this magical force that acts at a distance. We can describe how + +it behaves -- that's what the law of gravity is -- it's just a + +description of how it behaves, but it says nothing about what + +gravity really is." + + + + + + We'll use Etheridge as our barometer of scientific thought. + +He says we cannot produce gravity; that there's no such thing as + +a working anti-matter reactor, and that we have yet to figure out + +a way to get around the speed of light. He also concedes, + +though, such things are possible. + + + +Etheridge: "Yeah. And really we don't know what's possible as + +there could be other civilizations out there several hundred + +years or so -- a thousand years, even a million years ahead of + +us -- that have found a way to circumvent this. We have no way + +of knowing for sure." + + + +Lazar: "Well, the thing is when you harness gravity, you harness + +everything. It's the missing piece in physics right now. We + +really know very little about gravity." + + + + At least that's the way it used to be. Lazar says the + +technology to harness gravity not only exists but is being tested + +at S-4. And, if such technology is beyond human capabilities, it + +must have come from someplace else. It's more than conjecture, + +he says, because he also saw an element that cannot be found on + +the periodic chart. The element, called 115, can be stored in + +lead casings much like this one [showing a lead circular + +container]. Lazar says the government has 500 pounds of it, and + +it cannot be made on earth. + + + +Lazar: "It would be almost impossible; well, it is impossible to + +synthesize an element that heavy here on Earth." + + + +Interviewer: "At least right now." + + + +Lazar: "I don't think that you can ever synthesize it. The + +amount of....you essentially have to assemble it by bombarding it + +with protons if....atom by atom, it would take an infinite amount + +of power and an infinite amount of time. The substance has to + +come from a place where super-heavy elements could have been + +produced naturally. + + + + And what sort of place is that? + + + +Lazar: "Next to a much larger sun where there would be greater + +mass. Maybe a binary star system -- a super-nova -- somewhere + +where there is just a bigger release of energy to synthesize + +these things naturally. It has to be a naturally occurring + +element." + + + + 115 is the fuel for the anti-matter reactors, he says. By + +bombarding 115 anti-matter is produced. A kilo of anti-matter + +could produce the energy equivalent of 46 ten-megaton hydrogen + +bombs, and comparing the energy potential of anti-matter to, say, + +the Hoover Dam would be like comparing planets to grains of sand. + +115 could also make one heck of a bomb. + + + +Lazar: "We're talking about hundreds and hundreds of megatons + +off a small piece of it. It sounds incredible, but total + +conversion of matter to energy would release that amount of + +power. And it isn't that difficult to take....get the energy out + +of it. So it's not something you'd ever want to fall anyone's + +hands." + + + + The dangers associated with 115 and anti-matter may be the + +reason Lazar was hired to work at S-4. There was an accident, he + +says, back in April 1987. An accident that was passed off as an + +unannounced nuclear test. + + + +Lazar: "Some people got killed. I was told flat out I was one + +of the people that were to replace these guys." + + + + Is this why the government might be keeping the whole matter + +a secret? Because of the military potential of alien technology? + +Lazar says he believes the Soviet Union was once part of our + +research on the flying disks, but that the U.S. kicked the + +Soviets out after making some sort of discovery. He also + +believes the program at S-4 is operated with funds allocated to + +Star Wars research, but says he can't prove it. Some UFO + +researchers suspect the government is test flying alien craft so + +that it can one day master the technology and claim it was made + +in the good old U.S.A., thus obscuring the possibility of alien + +visitations. + + + +Stanton T. Friedman: "I think they have the duty to inform us. + +At least to the bare bones of what's going on. I don't want + +technological stuff put out on the table. I mean, I worked on + +classified projects for 15 years, and I don't think we need + +another weapon's delivery system. But I think the government + +does have the responsibility to release information that, indeed, + +the planet is being visited. Probably it should be done in + +conjunction with the Soviets." + + + +Lazar: "I don't think that it will get to that level. They're + +not going to have a fleet of them and fly them around and....I + +don't think you need to do that. If you're looking at them from + +a weapons point of view, you're looking at an incredibly powerful + +device. You only need one to operate. You don't ever need to + +come public with it. You may want to learn more about it should + +it ever break which is....might be what they're doing. Uh...." + + + +Interviewer: "They've got one...." + + + +Lazar: "Oh, they've got a few. Yeah." + + + + Lazar is the first to admit that his story is tough to + +swallow. He submitted to polygraph exams that opened up + +sensitive parts of his personal life, and fully expects to be + +ridiculed or perhaps punished for his revelations. His desire to + +explain what really happened at S-4 took us to Layne Keck, a + +licensed experienced hypnotherapist who quietly and privately + +tried to help Lazar remember details of the many briefing papers + +he says he read. + + + +Keck: "I have no clue as to what we were getting to, and he + +started saying that there were pictures of what I thought was + +desks on the wall. Well as it turned out, it was disks that he + +was referring to. And, at that moment, I realized we were into + +something that was pretty heavy." + + + + Keck does not exaggerate his claims for hypnosis. He + +regards it as a useful tool for uncovering some lost memory. He + +says people are quite capable of lying under hypnosis, but says + +the technique can be of help in determining truth. What's his + +opinion of Lazar's truthfulness? + + + +Keck: "It tells me that his subconscious mind believes totally + +all of these things." + + + + Lazar has long suspected that his government employers used + +some sort of mind control technique to prevent him from + +disclosing too much about S-4. While he says he has vivid + +conscious memories of the saucers and other technology there were + +other memories, that even now, remained locked, which is why he + +sought out Keck in the first place. Keck is convinced that + +someone really did mess with Lazar's head. + + + +Keck: "Also they used primitive fear in threatening those in his + +environment if he did bring this information forth. Also, it + +appears that maybe there were some chemicals used." + + + +Lazar: "Nah, I'm not going to change anyone's mind. That not my + +intention. I'm just relaying the experience. The job that I + +went through. It is a fantastic thing. It's a fantastic story. + +I can't take people there to show them what was going on, and uh, + +you know, I don't expect anyone to believe it." + + + + What if he is right? What if aliens are here? How would + +this change our view of the world? Our most fundamental beliefs, + +which is religion? We'll know more on that tomorrow. + + + +================================================================= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2897.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2897.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..24c86a23 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2897.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,1197 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON AREA51 FILE: UFO2897 + + + +PART 4 + + + + From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin + + Subject: Knapp Interview #1 + + Date: 24 Dec 89 05:08:00 GMT + + + + DATE OF UPLOAD: December 23, 1989 + + ORIGIN OF UPLOAD: ParaNet Information Service + + CONTRIBUTED BY: Chuck Harder/Special Correspondent to ParaNet + + ======================================================== + + (C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service + + All Rights Reserved unless copyrighted by Author. + + ======================================================== + + + + INTERVIEW WITH GEORGE KNAPP OF KLAS-TV (LAS VEGAS, NEVADA) ON + + NOVEMBER 17, 1989. INTERVIEWED BY CHUCK HARDER, HOST AND + + MODERATOR OF 'FOR THE PEOPLE' OF THE SUN RADIO NETWORK. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + My guest has (now) called in and I'm going to run down who he is + + and where he's from for a number of reasons, some of them for his + + own protection. George, are you there... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Hello Chuck. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Please tell us, you are George Knapp, right... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + That's right. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + George, what do you do for a living? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + I'm a journalist with KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, the CBS affiliate + + here. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + So you are a TV newsman... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Right. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + And you work for Channel 8, KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, Nevada... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Right. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + I understand that you have come upon some very interesting + + information and you've done some special reports, could you tell + + us about it...? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Well we just finished a nine-part series -- what may be the + + longest series that's ever been done on this subject dealing with + + UFOs. + + + + Our research actually started about two and a half years ago, a + + fellow named John Lear, the son of the guy who invented the Lear + + Jet brought some of this information to our attention. In May of + + this year, Mr. Lear introduced us to a fellow who claims to have + + worked at a secret base designated S-4...on a top-secret Nevada + + test site...the fellow said that he worked on flying saucers, + + that the technology was not from Earth, and we interviewed him + + live in silhouette in May, the response was incredible...we got + + response from Japan, parts of that interview aired on radio in + + Europe, and six different European countries...so we decided with + + this much interest we might want to take a look at the subject in + + more depth. + + + + We started doing that and the first thing we found out is that + + really UFOs have not been given a fair shake by science, by + + government, by religion and especially by journalism. Millions + + of people have seen UFOs, millions more believe...I think the + + latest Gallup poll shows about 70 percent of college-educated + + Americans believe that there's something to it, but because of + + the tabloid aspects...'The Girl Who Gives Birth to 52 UFO Babies' + + -- kind of things in the National Enquirer, people have shied + + away from it...Serious people have shied away. Scientists, + + although they might be interested in searching the universe for + + radio signals really don't want to look in their own back yard -- + + they can't get grants...people would laugh at them. Journalism - + + - the coverage is generally condescending and quirky, especially + + by the networks, as in the coverage of this UFO that supposedly + + landed in the USSR, people making fun of it...so, we figured out + + that millions of people want to know as Roy Neary, the guy in the + + 'Close Encounters' movie said, 'What's going on?' So we started + + investigating it. The focal point of the story being this fellow + + who said he worked at S-4. We broke his identity last Friday. + + His name is Bob Lazar, he is a former scientist who worked at Los + + Alamos National Labs, he is a physicist...we did a lot of + + checking on him and found interestingly enough that his life was + + disappearing around him. In other words we called Los Alamos + + Labs and they said they never heard of him. We called MIT where + + he says he went to school and they had never heard of him. We + + called for his Birth records and they had disappeared...as if + + someone was trying to make him a non-person. We did however + + confirm some of the information that he had given us...we found + + newspaper articles from Los Alamos indicating that he had indeed + + worked there...we found an old telephone book from the lab with + + his name in it, which gave him a certain amount of credibility in + + our eyes. The story he tells is an incredible one. He was hired + + to work at this area called S-4 on the test site, he was flown up + + to a place called Groom Lake -- taken by bus with no windows to + + S-4...the base is built almost to look like its part of the + + desert with sand covered hanger doors, he goes inside and he + + starts reading these briefing papers dealing with UFOs! Pictures + + of UFOs on the walls, pictures of aliens, autopsy reports on + + alien bodies...things of this nature -- he's pretty amazed. Then + + he sees the discs. He says there are nine of the discs up there, + + they are powered by an anti-matter reactor which produces its own + + gravitational field...technology that does not exist on this + + planet, and the interesting thing...he thought for a while that + + perhaps it was just an advanced secret scientific project that + + our government is pursuing until he looked inside one of the + + discs and noticed the small furniture...all the chairs were built + + like for children...and then things started coming together for + + him. Are you with me Chuck? + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + I'm listening. + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Er, I'm not sure how much detail you want me to go in on... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Oh I think you ought to keep going. + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Well, this fellow was up there for only a few months. And it was + + a rough place for him to work...the security was so hard and he + + was being harassed at home, his phones being tapped...plus he's + + on to what he thinks are the secrets of the universe...he starts + + to tell other people about it, confide with close friends. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Ummmmmm..... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + He had the date of a couple of tests and on two consecutive + + weekends he took people up into the desert outside of the + + boundaries of area S-4, and they video taped the saucers...what + + looks like a saucer coming over the mountains! + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Wow... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + We showed that video as well... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Uh-huh.... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Five different people that we interviewed that had gone up there + + confirmed the same story...we also had confirmation of other bits + + of his story from other people, a former security guard who + + worked up there...who said he had seen the saucers, a former + + technician... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + By the way, excuse me, I have some letters from some people + + postmarked from that area, one inside of a base, who tells me + + what you're saying is true. Keep going. + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Ah, we also found a Nellis Airman who had been on radar duty at + + Nellis airbase which is here just south of the area that this + + fellow is talking about...he reported numerous times seeing... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + George, excuse me...let me do the half hour news break, I want + + you to tell your story, I want America to hear it...please stand + + by. + + + + >>>>At this point the SUN RADIO NETWORK runs the half hour news + + headlines and sports audio package from UPI<<<< + + + + (After news the guest is re-introduced for listeners who may have + + just tuned in...) + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + How many reports did you do, George? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + We did nine total in this series. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Ok, now at the time we went to news on the half hour you told me + + that a scientist named Bob Lazar... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Right... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Ok, came to you and came to the public and apparently was + + concerned for his safety because he wanted to tell America or get + + news out that - yes, the Federal Government has nine saucers, and + + yes they are near...it's near Nellis, is it not? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Yes. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Cause I have letters from people who are at Nellis. Some of + + which don't want to give their name, some of which gave their + + name, I have the postmarks. Tell us now if you would, start the + + story from the fact that the gentleman has revealed that there + + are nine of these things. We're listening and so is America. + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Well, we wanted to try to confirm as much of his story as + + possible from other sources of course, so we started looking for + + other people who might have knowledge of what's going on up + + there...as I mentioned, I found a former security guard who said + + that he had seen the saucers up there, I found a former + + technician who said that he had walked into a room inadvertently + + and saw one under a tarp, we found a Nellis airman who had worked + + in radar and said that basically he and his fellow airman has + + seen these things flying over the Groom Mountains at speeds up to + + 7,000 miles per hour on radar...these things would stop on a + + dime, so the guy knew that this is not your average airplane + + that's doing this. We also interviewed the other people who went + + with Lazar up on two consecutive weeks, they test them on + + Wednesdays for some reason, and videotaped the tests, saw these + + things flying over the mountains and confirmed his story as well. + + + + We put these questions to the Navy, who Lazar says he worked for + + up there -- we made Freedom of Information Act requests for + + information about the various specific programs he mentioned, of + + course the Navy denied having any information on the programs. + + Of course in those requests we also asked for other information + + about UFOs, stuff the Navy has already released and they denied + + having that information as well -- so I don't put a lot of faith + + in the FOIA requests. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + In other words, what you're saying is that your organization + + which is KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, plus many other UFO research + + groups have uncovered many UFO documents that the government + + says, 'Yeah, we got them and yeah it's true'...but then when you + + ask them again they say, 'No, we don't have them!' + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Exactly...that's exactly correct! + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + I understand from MUFON and many other groups that there are + + somewhere from four to seven thousand documents that prove + + that...yes these things exist, copies of the documents are in + + private hands, then you go and ask the government and they say, + + 'Well, er, no we don't remember...' + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + The government says that they have done these studies that say + + that UFOs are no threat to national security, they're either + + psychological aberrations, which means that people are nuts when + + they see them, that's what they feed the public...but behind the + + scenes they are very concerned about the national security + + implications of UFOs that land at nuclear missile bases and can't + + be caught, things of that nature. So the government from what + + I've read is very concerned about the phenomena and doesn't + + really understand it. The government on the other hand has + + outright lied concerning what information it does have...the CIA + + for example says it doesn't collect any information on + + UFOs...well that's just patently not true. We have documents + + from the CIA, a lot of it is blacked out, which mentions UFO + + studies by the CIA, UFO research, CIA-UFO experts, agency + + personnel who are monitoring the phenomenon, so they have lied to + + us all along. I didn't expect to get any confirmation regarding + + what Lazar has to say, but had to give it a try anyway. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Before we went to the half-hour break you said that when he + + looked inside one of these discs there were little furniture, + + give me some information... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Well he feels that they were bringing him along, giving him a + + piece at a time. He would see a saucer one day, the next he + + would see the hanger doors open and see all nine of them...after + + that he got to see the inside of the thing. He also got to see a + + demonstration of it. He was told to stand back and watch + + this...and the thing lights up real bright...I guess the power + + that's produced is incredible, you need to produce your own + + gravitational field and it raised up, he wasn't sure who was + + flying it or was it remotely or what. He watched it raise up, + + did a couple of maneuvers and sat back down. Part of the reason + + he came forward, not to spill the secrets of the universe or the + + government, but because the research that's being done up there + + is being handled in a clumsy fashion. If they have had these for + + as long as forty years, which is what he believes, they haven't + + come to far in trying to understand them. Some of the discs he + + said he saw up there were being taken apart, kind of a reverse + + archaeology process to figure out how they worked. Some of the + + research going on up there is aimed at trying to duplicate the + + things that these machines can do using earth technologies and + + earth materials and he says it just can't be done. The key to + + the flying of the things is something he calls 'Element 115'...it + + does not exist on our periodic charts, he believes that wherever + + it came from its a naturally occurring element, he says we have + + 500 pounds of this stuff up there, just a little tiny sliver of + + it produces incredible amounts of power. Its the '115' that we + + will not be able to duplicate so he thinks...one of the reasons + + that he came forward is because scientists all over the world are + + working, putting their energy into trying to master the secrets + + of gravity and the secrets of anti-matter technology and here + + we've got it up there and they're not doing a very good job with + + it -- this little batch of scientists hidden out in the desert + + are trying to figure it out and not doing a very good job... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + But this is kind of common with the United States government...I + + read a tremendous amount of material...I read a tremendous amount + + of material...I read five newspapers a day and I'll find where + + one group in one part of the country is working on a project and + + I'll get a clipping where another group is working on the same + + project, I've contacted them and they don't know of each other! + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Yeah, Yeah -- that's exactly right...he said the + + compartmentalization up there was very severe as well so that + + nobody had the full picture -- I guess so nobody could spill the + + beans as he has been trying to do. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Alright, what does he feel the public should know and what does + + he feel should be done? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Well, he's not on a campaign, what he really wanted to do was to + + save his own life. He started having some problems when it + + became obvious to his employers that he was telling someone else + + about this. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + We're talking about Bob Lazar now... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Bob Lazar...his phone being tapped, people visiting him, calling + + him up with a single word message -- DEAD -- then they hang up! + + He tried to arrange meetings with his former supervisor and the + + meetings didn't come off, he says somebody took a shot at him on + + the freeway...obviously he realizes that if they really wanted to + + kill him, they could. Maybe perhaps they were just trying to + + shut him up. He feels that what is going on up there is a crime + + against the entire scientific community...not only the American + + people because we don't know what's going on and we haven't been + + told alien technology exists, but also against the scientific + + community. So, what else can I tell ya? + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + What does he say about the aliens? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + He's reluctant to talk about that, apparently he did see some + + aliens up there... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Excuse me, are you telling me there were live aliens? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Yeah, he's kind of sketchy on the details of that, and I don't + + think I should go much further on that...part of the discussion + + until I can talk to him, but he has indications that there are + + aliens up there, at least one... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Live? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Yeah, it's pretty wild, I know and I didn't include that in our + + reports because I couldn't confirm any thing of that nature, I + + couldn't find anyone else who had seen them up there so... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + What did they look like? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Your classic Grey...the little big-headed almond eyed-grey + + skinned being...the same ones in the classic descriptions of the + + UFO literature...he's kind of squeamish talking about it as well + + because it sounds so crazy... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + I don't think it's crazy at all, there was an article, let me + + digress for a moment, there was an article yesterday on the front + + page of The Wall Street Journal where the FDA that stopped all of + + the grapes from Chile last March...apparently somebody laced two + + of the grapes with cyanide a couple of hours before the FDA, + + stumbled on them and it was an inside job apparently while the + + grapes were in the inspection station...and it was not done on + + the way, so somebody's lying there -- we're talking of two little + + grapes that almost bankrupted the country of Chile! If two + + little grapes...and such a story hits the front page of The Wall + + Street Journal about the questions about the truthfulness and + + what happened with the FDA, what about this...how would this ever + + get out if they would cover up a story about TWO LITTLE GRAPES?! + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Well, I tell you we asked the question, the obvious question, if + + this is true; how can the government keep this a secret all this + + time? A story this big -- the government leaks like a sieve on + + other things, how could the coverup exist? + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Oh, I'll tell you... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + To which Lazar responds, this is the easiest...and he asked the + + question to his superiors up there, it's the easiest thing in the + + world to keep a secret because if it does come out, little bits + + and pieces, who's going to believe it? + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Exactly...let me, you remember the Condon Report, do you not? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Yes... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + For those who are listening, I got into this investigation + + because I kept getting letters from our listeners who said, Chuck + + you ought to investigate this...we've investigated many things in + + the past such as the GM Diesel coverup, we're working on a pay + + phone coverup, we've done things with Ralph Nader...and so on. + + So we started buying the books and contacting UFO organizations. + + I then found that there was a guy named Phil Klass who was always + + there...somehow he as always there and he said that everything + + was bunk! And of course, he works for the Aviation Week magazine + + which is of course is the mouthpiece for the Military/Industrial + + complex and they certainly wouldn't want this technology to be + + out! I was also amazed when I saw the stealth bomber (tests) + + live on CNN one Saturday and a small plane landed at the same + + place, (runway) do you remember that...? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Yes... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + My question is: If the Stealth Bomber was so super-secret, how + + could a man and his children land their little tiny plane on the + + same runway at a super-secret airforce base? How could he have + + pierced the radar and fighter jets and so forth? My feeling was, + + probably the Stealth Bomber was obsolete and nobody was watching! + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Yeah, I'd have to agree with you, because the security up + + there...the only thing that comes out of that place is what they + + want out of it. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + So what your talking about then, since the Condon Committee, Phil + + Klass and all the of the spokespeople who are supposed to know + + everything, what your saying is the ridicule factor...if Billy + + Bob sees a flying saucer and even has a photo of it and takes it + + to the paper, everybody laughs at him! + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + There are actual documents the government has released (Under + + Freedom of Information Act) that show it has an active program + + that started back in the fifties...the CIA even used the term + + DEBUNKING, there were discussions about using Walt Disney to + + produce cartoons that made fun of people who had seen flying + + saucers...they were going to bring Arthur Godfrey in as their + + spokesperson. Phil Klass as you mentioned, he's explained away + + UFO sightings seen by thousands of people as the constellation + + ORION, when you can only see ORION from the other side of the + + planet. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Uh huh... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + He uses things like Ball Lightning, plasma balls to explain the + + sightings where plasma balls only last for a few seconds and the + + examples that he is trying to explain occur in cloudless skies + + where there is no lightning around. You mention the Condon + + report, that's a perfect example of the kinds of things that the + + government has done in the past, they commission a study, it's + + supposed to be THE STUDY, but the guy they hire to run the thing, + + Edward Condon had before he even started, that there was nothing + + to UFOs, the government should get out of it, and he also said at + + one point that the authors of UFO books should be HORSEWHIPPED! + + One of the explanations that came from the Condon Committee + + witnessed by several people, they described it as, a natural + + phenomena so rare that it has never been seen before or since! I + + don't think this kind of a thing is an accident! + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Ok, the Soviet Union and Tass gave their report (of a UFO) and + + from what I have heard there are different kinds of aliens, some + + have been coming here for years and years and it's nothing new... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Right... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Why is it in some parts of the world (now) they report other + + types of humanoids and other types of vehicles...I happen to have + + beautiful photos of some, and as I told you off-the-air, we're + + going to be releasing them in our upcoming magazine if someone + + doesn't stick a dagger through my heart... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + You're talking about the Billy Meier case, if you want to touch + + on that, we also did some investigation on that... + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Ok, go ahead. + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Billy Meier, I've always been intrigued by that, and wanted to + + check them out. Its been pretty much written-off by the UFO + + community but when we put questions to them about the case they + + can't explain exactly why so we traveled to Phoenix and talked to + + Lee Elders one of the lead investigators on the Billy Meier case + + and started going over the evidence. The photos had been + + analyzed by independent experts, the film footage and video had + + been analyzed, the metal sample had been confirmed as something + + we don't have -- technology of cold fusion was used to produce + + this metal, the landing sites, the strange circular patterns in + + the grass that are now only gaining attention in Britain and + + other countries, all of this stuff had never been pretty much + + discounted by the UFO community because Elders and Wendelle + + Stevens had gone outside of the UFO community to get + + confirmation. The UFO people were kept out of it, the Billy + + Meier case I think exemplifies the biggest weakness in UFOLOGY + + and that's the jealousy that permeates the field...everybody + + wants to be the only one with the real story of UFOs, so they + + kind of written this guy off only because he didn't cooperate + + with them. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + We have been able to get some photos from a source who has some + + negatives that were just recently located...some from ten feet + + away, I used to be in the motion picture business. If they are + + models they cost thousands of dollars and I doubt if a simple + + Swiss farmer could have done it... + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + I'd agree with ya, the reason we got interested in Billy Meier, + + it goes back to Lazar, was because Bob Lazar says, the saucer + + that he saw fly, he dubbed it the sport model, was the same + + saucer in the Meier photos, exactly the same. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + The new ones or the old ones? + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + The new one. + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + Ok, that's the one we've got. + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Going back to the things he saw (Lazar) at S-4, he saw the nine + + saucers, he said all nine of them were different, like we got the + + variety pack, but the one he saw fly was like the one in the + + Meier photo. (There are Three types photographed by Billy + + Meier.) + + + + That's why we decided to check out the Meier part of the (UFO) + + story. + + + + >>>>At this point Chuck Harder tells George Knapp that there is a + + break coming up and after the break would he please tell Mr. and + + Mrs. America what they should do to get the truth.<<<< + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + I hope that Mr. and Mrs. America make note of the name George + + Knapp and Bob Lazar so that if anything ever happens to them, you + + know why. + + + + GEORGE KNAPP + + Someone should tell us what's going on...TV and movies have + + conditioned us...we won't panic...Jimmy Carter when he ran for + + President promised that if he was elected that he vowed to open + + all the UFO files and he didn't -- we wrote to him asking why and + + he didn't respond. We want the government to come clean. If + + that takes a Congressional Investigation...that's something that + + should be looked at. If it is launched we have to make sure that + + there are no CIA, contractors and the like involved otherwise + + people aren't going to believe it. We've seen enough of this + + whitewash stuff over the years. If there's nothing to the story, + + then open up the files and prove it to us! + + + + CHUCK HARDER + + OK, have the government let the press into these areas and don't + + first clean them out... + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2898.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2898.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ab65c357 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2898.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,1578 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON AREA51 FILE: UFO2898 + + + +PART 5 + + + +DATE OF UPLOAD: December 30, 1989 + +ORIGIN OF UPLOAD: ParaNet Information Service + +CONTRIBUTED BY: Robert B. Klinn - ParaNet Director of + + Investigations and Research + +======================================================== + +(C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service + +All Rights Reserved unless copyrighted by Author. + +THIS FILE WAS PREPARED BY PARANET ALPHA -- PARANET INFORMATION + +SERVICE + +1-303-232-6115 9600 BAUD + +1-303-232-8303 VOICE + +DENVER, COLORADO + +NOTE: THESE FILES ARE NOT FOR REDISTRIBUTION OUTSIDE + +OF THE PARANET INFORMATION SERVICE NETWORK + +======================================================== + + + + + + + +On the Record, KLAS-TV, Las Vegas, Nevada, 12/9/89, 7:00 p.m.- + +7:30 p.m. + + + +George Knapp, producer/host + +Robert Lazar, guest + + + +George Knapp: + +Hello, and welcome to On the Record. + + + +One month ago, we began a series of reports about UFOs. With the + +exception of a few cranky newspaper people, the response has been + +overwhelmingly positive. We've had requests for more information + +from all over the country and from all over the world. Tonight + +we're going to delve a little deeper into the subject with the + +man who was the impetus for our report in the first place, Bob + +Lazar. + + + +Bob, good to have you here. A thumbnail sketch of yourself for + +those who might not be familiar with your background. + + + +Robert Lazar: + +I worked at Los Alamos National Lab. + + + +Knapp: + +As a physicist? + + + +Lazar: + +As a physicist, and hired as a senior staff physicist at Area S- + +4, for what I was told anyway was the United States Navy. + + + +Knapp: + +Where is S-4? + + + +Lazar: + +It's about 10 to 15 miles south of Groom Lake, about 125 miles + +north of Las Vegas. + + + +Knapp: + +How did you get the job? + + + +Lazar: + +I really don't want to mention the guy who I got it through. But + +I was referred to a person at EG&G to drop off my resume to; + +that's where I was interviewed; though the job is COMPLETELY + +unrelated to EG&G. + + + +Knapp: + +What did they tell you you were going to be doing? Or DID they + +tell you? + + + +Lazar: + +No, they really didn't tell me until the very end. They said a + +high-technology job, something that I'd be very interested in. + + + +Knapp: + +Okay, so you get hired. And what happens? Do you fly up there? + + + +Lazar: + +Fly up there. First day was reading briefings and that sort of + +thing. And it became evident to me pretty quickly the level of + +technology they were dealing with: gravitational propulsion and + +things that science has really only barely touched on. + + + +Knapp: + +We'll get into the things that you saw in a couple of minutes. + +But it's been about a little more than three weeks since your + +identity was made public. We had you on another program a couple + +of months ago -- using an assumed name and having you in + +silhouette -- but since your identity has been made public and + +since this information has been made public, what's it been like? + +What's been the response from people that see you on the street? + + + +Lazar: + +The response has been almost all favorable. In fact, everyone + +that I've run into has been very supportive, very interested. I + +guess there's just two or three letters -- + + + +Knapp: + +-- from people that don't believe you? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah. Essentially. + + + +Knapp: + +Responses from other media outlets as well? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah. + + + +Knapp: + +They want to interview you? What do they want? + + + +Lazar: + +Essentially everything, yes. Radio interviews, TV interviews. A + +lot of people want to dig back into my background and re-trace + +everything. + + + +Knapp: + +Many of the people who have been calling -- calling us as well -- + +were under the impression that either you've gone underground or + +you've been silenced or we've been silenced by dark and sinister + +forces. Anything like that happen to you so far? + + + +Lazar: + +That's ridiculous. People are always going over the deep end on + +that. And no one's told me -- other than originally -- not to + +say anything. And I'm sure no one's come forward to you. + + + +Knapp: + +But in the beginning, they told you to keep quiet about this. + + + +Lazar: + +Oh yeah! It's the most secret program in the United States. + + + +Knapp: + +In what way did they try to make sure you kept your mouth shut? + + + +Lazar: + +Everything up to death threats. I mean CONSTANT reminders of it, + +signing away my constututional rights for fair trial and that + +sort of thing. + + + +Knapp: + +And since this thing, your phone's been tapped, you believe? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah, I believe. I have a tap detector, and occasionally after I + +pick up the phone, a little red light goes on. + + + +Knapp: + +The reason you came forward with the information to begin with? + +Is it related to the fact that they were bothering you? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah, it was essentially to stop that. What had happened was, I + +sent in a request for my birth certificate, and as it turned out + +it wasn't there anymore, that I wasn't born at the hospital! And + +that kind of got me wondering what's going on. I put in a + +request for some other information, previous jobs, and that was + +also gone, and I thought something had to be done before I + +disappeared. + + + +Knapp: + +The same thing -- it was Los Alamos? They've never heard of you? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah. + + + +Knapp: + +Anything happened since the reports have aired? + + + +Lazar: + +They let me know that they were around by doing stupid, childish + +little things. But nothing serious, no. + + + +Knapp: + +You were worried about your LIFE though for a while there, + +weren't you? + + + +Lazar: + +That was one of the reasons to come on and let everything out on + +the air; it's a little of insurance. + + + +Knapp: + +Are you worried any more? Do you get the feeling you're over the + +hump? + + + +Lazar: + +To some degree, yeah. + + + +Knapp: + +Do you find that most people really believe you or that they just + +want more information? + + + +Lazar: + +I think alot of people believe what I said, but the majority I + +think do just want more information, too. It's an in-depth + +subject. + + + +Knapp: + +Let's look at some of the technology you saw. When did you first + +get the idea, what's the first thing you saw that made you + +convinced that it's not from here? + + + +Lazar: + +The first thing was HANDS-on experience with the anti-matter + +reactor. + + + +Knapp: + +Explain what that is and how it works and what it does. + + + +Lazar: + +It's a plate about 18 inches in diameter with a sphere on top. + + + +Knapp: + +We have a tape of a model that a friend of yours made. You can + +narrate along. There it is. + + + +Lazar: + +Inside that tower is a chip of Element 115 they just put in + +there. That's a super-heavy element. The lid goes on top. + + + +And as far as any other of the workings of it, I really don't + +know, you know, [such as] what's inside the bottom of it . . . + + + +115 sets up a gravitational field around the top. That little + +wave guide you saw being put on the top: it essentially siphons + +off the gravity wave, and that's later amplified in the lower + +portion of the craft. + + + +But just in general, the whole technology is virtually unknown. + + + +Knapp: + +Now we saw the model. We saw the pictures of it there. It looks + +really, really simple, almost too simple to actually do anything. + + + +Lazar: + +Right. + + + +Knapp: + +Working parts? + + + +Lazar: + +None detectable. Essentially, what the job was was to back- + +engineer everthing, where you have a finished product and to step + +backwards and find out how it was made or how it could be made + +with earthly materials. There hasn't been very much progress. + + + +Knapp: + +How long do you think they've had this technology up there? + + + +Lazar: + +It seems like quite a while, but I really don't know. + + + +Knapp: + +What could you do with an anti-matter generator? What does it + +do? + + + +Lazar: + +It converts anti-matter . . . + +It DOESN'T convert anti-matter! There's an annihilation + +reaction. It's an extremely powerful reaction, a hundred percent + +conversion of matter to energy, unlike a fission or fusion + +reaction which is somewhere around eight-tenths of one percent + +conversion + + of matter to energy. + + + +Knapp: + +How does it work? What starts the reaction going? + + + +Lazar: + +Really, once the 115 is put in, the reaction is initiated. + + + +Knapp: + +Automatic. + + + +Lazar: + +Right. + + + +Knapp: + +I don't understand. I mean, there's no button to push or + +anything? + + + +Lazar: + +No, there's no button to push or anything. + + + +Apparently, the 115 under bombardment with protons lets out an + +anti-matter particle. This anti-matter particle will react with + +any matter whatsoever, which I imagine there is some target + +system inside the reactor. This, in turn, releases heat, and + +somewhere within that system there is a one-hundred-percent- + +efficient thermionic generator, essentially a heat-to-electrical + +generator. + + + +Knapp: + +How is this anti-matter reactor connected to gravity generation + +that you were talking about earlier? + + + +Lazar: + +Well, that reactor serves two purposes; it provides a tremendous + +amount of electrical power, which is almost a by-product. The + +gravitational wave gets formed at the sphere, and that's through + +some action of the 115, and the exact action I don't think anyone + +really knows. + + + +The wave guide siphons off that gravity wave, and that's + +channeled above the top of the disk to the lower part where there + +are three gravity amplifiers, which amplify and direct that + +gravity wave. + + + +Knapp: + +In essence creating their own gravitational field. + + + +Lazar: + +Their own gravitational field. + + + +Knapp: + +You're fairly convinced that science on earth doesn't have this + +technology right now? We have it now at S-4, I guess, but we + +didn't create it? + + + +Lazar: + +Right. + + + +Knapp: + +Why not? Why couldn't we? + + + +Lazar: + +The technology's not even -- We don't even know what gravity IS! + + + +Knapp: + +Well, what is it? What have you learned about what gravity is? + + + +Lazar: + +Gravity is a wave. There are many different theories, wave + +included. It's been theorized that gravity is also particles, + +gravitons, which is also incorrect. But gravity is a wave. The + +basic wave they can actually tap off of an element: why that is + +I' + +m not exactly sure. + + + +Knapp: + +So you can produce your own gravity. What does that mean? What + +does that allow you to do? + + + +Lazar: + +It allows you to do virtually anything. Gravity distorts time + +and space. By doing that, now you're into a different mode of + +travel, where instead of traveling in a linear method -- going + +from Point A to B -- now you can distort time and space to where + +you essentially bring the mountain to Mohammad; you almost bring + +your destination to you without moving. + + + +And since you're distorting time, all this takes place in between + +moments of time. It's such a far-fetched concept! + + + +Knapp: + +Of course, what the UFO skeptics say is, yeah, there's life out + +there elsewhere in the universe; it can never come here; it's + +just too darn far. With the kind of technology you're talking + +about, it makes such considerations irrelevant about distance and + +time and things like that. + + + +Lazar: + +Exactly, because when you are distorting time, there's no longer + +a normal reference of time. And that's what producing your own + +gravity does. + + + +Knapp: + +You can go forward or backward in time? Is that's what you're + +saying? + + + +Lazar: + +No, not essentially. It would be easier with a model. On the + +bottom side of the disk are the three gravity generators. When + +they want to travel to a distant point, the disk turns on its + +side. The three gravity generators produce a gravitational beam. + + What they do is they converge the three gravity generators onto + +a point and use that as a focal point; and they bring them up to + +power and PULL that point towards the disk. The disk itself will + +attach ONTO that point and snap back -- AS THEY RELEASE SPACE + +BACK TO THAT POINT! + + + +Now all this happens in the distortion of time, so time is not + +incrementing. So the SPEED is essentially infinite. + + + +Knapp: + +We'll get into the disks in a moment. But the first time you saw + +the anti-matter reactor in operation or a demonstration -- you + +had a couple of demonstrations -- tell me about that. + + + +Lazar: + +The first time I saw it in operation, we just put -- a friend I + +worked with, Barry -- put the fuel in the reactor, put the lid on + +as, as was shown there. + + + +Immediately, a gravitational field developed, and he said, "Feel + +it!" And it felt like you bring two like poles of a magnet + +together; you can do that with your hand. And it was FASCINATING + +to do that, impossible, except on something with great mass! And + +obviously this is just a . . . + + + +And it was a REPULSION field. In fact, we kind of fooled around + +with it for a little while. And we threw golf balls off it. And + +it was just a really unique thing. + + + +Knapp: + +And you had other demonstrations to show you that this is pretty + +wild stuff, right? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah, they did. They were able to channel the field off in a + +demonstration that they created an INTENSE gravitational area. + +And you began to see a small little black disk form, and that was + +the bending of the light. + + + +Knapp: + +Just like a black hole floating around? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah, well, a black hole is a bad analogy, but yeah, essentially. + + + +Knapp: + +And they gave you some kind of demonstration about time, + +involving a candle? Explain how that works. + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah, they took a candle and lit it and put it in the distorted + +gravitational field, which distorts time, and the candle just + +stood there. It didn't melt or burn. It was REALLY + +unbelievable! + + + +Knapp: + +You had to be floored by seeing all this. + + + +Lazar: + +Oh I was! That's why I'm kind of laughing about it now because + +it must sound ridiculous to everyone. But it's just phenomenal. + +I mean this is really alien technology. + + + +Knapp: + +About the 115: We talked a little bit about it in the series of + +reports. Explain what it is again and why you believe it could + +not be manufactured here. + + + +Lazar: + +Okay, it's a super-heavy element: On the periodic chart, which + +lists all the elements found on earth and that can be + +synthesized, I think the highest element we've synthesized has + +been about Element 106. + + + +Now from 103 -- or actually, anything higher than plutonium up -- + +the half-life begins to drop; in other words, the element + +disintegrates. When you get up to Element 106, it's only around + +for a very small amount of time. Even science today theorizes + +that up around Element 113 to 116 -- somewhere in there -- they + +should again become stable. This is in fact true. That's what + +Element 115 is; it's a stable element. + + + +To synthesize it would be impossible. The way we synthesize + +heavy elements is, we take a stable element like bismuth or + +something like that, or plutionium, whatever, put it in an + +accelerator, and BOMBARD it with protons. Essentially what + +you're trying to do is plug in protons into the atoms and + +increase the atomic number. To do that to the level of Element + +115 would just take an infinite amount of power and an infinite + +amount of time. + + + +Knapp: + +What kinds of things, what capabilities would a heavy element + +like this have -- I mean other than producing power? Obviously, + +it can produce a LOT of power, right? + + + +Lazar: + +It in itself is not anti-matter. It just has a unique property + +of producing it. Any of the other basic properties it has I + +really don't know of. But using just the anti-matter-producing + +property, the potential for a weapon is staggering! It's + +absolutely staggering! + + + +Knapp: + +Like what? A pound of it: what could it do? + + + +Lazar: + +Well, 2.2 pounds is the energy equivalent of 47 10-megaton + +hydrogen bombs. I mean, it's a good bang! And a pound of a + +super-heavy element is maybe the size of a plum or something like + +that. + + + +Knapp: + +I guess what I've heard most from people who just don't buy the + +whole story is that sure, maybe you work at an area called S-4, + +and maybe it is a secret area, but what you were shown is stuff + +that we've made. That we made this 115 -- if it is 115 -- that + +we made the flying disks, that we made these anti-matter + +reactors, because these are advances that you just don't know + +about. + + + +Lazar: + +Hardly. + +[Lazar laughs.] + + + +Knapp: + +Why not? + + + +Lazar: + +Well, the 115, it's impossible. And the FACT that the main job + +of everyone there is to find out how everything's made; I mean + +that just contradicts everything right off the bat. The + +materials are completely alien to us, and just the overall idea + +of the project is: Hey, can we duplicate this with materials + +that we have here? So obviously, it was something that was found + +or given, for that matter, and we're just trying to duplicate it. + + + +Knapp: + +The 115: Where do you suppose it came from then? I mean, what + +kind of environment would that kind of element come from? + + + +Lazar: + +The only place that 115 could be made would have to be in a + +natural situation, somewhere maybe on the fringes of a supernova + +or somewhere around maybe a binary star system, where there was + +more mass in the primordial mix of that system, where heavier + +elements would have had a chance to form, when the stars were + +collapsing and there were huge amounts of energy being released. + +It's something along these lines; it has to be a naturally- + +occurring element. + + + +Knapp: + +You saw an anti-matter reactor. You saw gravity-propulsion + +systems in flying disks, flying saucers. You saw this Element + +115. You also read a series of reports that had other stunning + +information. Can you give an overview of the kind of things that + +were in these reports? + + + +Lazar: + +The reason I didn't do that before was, first of all they were + +just reports. Everything else I had hands-on experience with. + + + +Now there was LOTS of strange information in the reports, but + +there again it's just printed material and it could be + +disinformation. I don't know. But certainly, the information I + +did read in the reports about 115, the disks, the grav -- I mean, + +that all had material that related to that. + + + +The reports went into aliens and even went along the lines of + +religious -- + + + +Knapp: + +Well, we can let our audience know. I mean we discussed this, + +when we were putting this series of reports together, whether to + +get into the alien thing or not, and we decided not to for the + +time being. It's not like you're hiding something from the + +audience or whatever, it was just a decision we made. But you + +did see reports -- whether they're true or not -- Government + +reports about aliens. + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah. + + + +Knapp: + +What were the reports? + + + +Lazar: + +There were photographs of aliens. There were autopsy reports. + +There was really a wealth of information. + + + +Knapp: + +What did they look like? + + + +Lazar: + +The typical "grey." I hate to say that, like anyone knows what a + +typical grey is. It's a creature, probably three and a half to + +four feet tall, a large hairless head, black, slanted eyes, long + +arms, very thin-looking. I don't know how else I would describe + +them. + + + +Knapp: + +What does an autopsy report look like? What's included in an + +autopsy report that you said you read? + + + +Lazar: + +The reason I call it an autopsy report is I saw the carcass -- it + +was obviously a dead alien -- carcass cut up and it was all dark + +inside like it had an iron base. The reason I say iron is + +because it was very dark blood or whatever. I'm not a doctor, + +but it seemed to be one large organ in the body as opposed to + +identifiable heart and lungs and that sort of thing, but just one + +gooey mess in it. + + + +Knapp: + +What did the report say? It had pictures; it had to have some + +words: "Here's Exhibit A, an alien"? + + + +Lazar: + +Essentially so! They had weights and densities of the organs, + +said there were no conclusions drawn, but it was just a basic + +description of what the person who was cutting open the body saw. + + + +Knapp: + +Say where they came from? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah, in one of the reports it said they came from Reticulum 4, + +was what it said. + + + +Knapp: + +Where is that? Any idea? + + + +Lazar: + +[Lazar laughs.] + +Well, I'm told it's a star system in Zeta Reticuli. Reticulum is + +the constellation. + + + +And by "Reticulum 4," they meant the fourth planet out from that + +sun. + + + +In the same reports, we were identified -- instead of saying + +Earth, we were identified as "Sol 3," meaning the third planet + +out from our sun. + + + +Knapp: + +Now you've read a lot of UFO material. Do you find yourself + +mixing what you've read and what you've learned from up there? + + + +Lazar: + +No, that's why I stay away from the UFO researchers and things + +like that. I really don't want to be associated with that. I + +don't research the stuff. It's interesting to read, but no, I'm + +not mixing anything that I've read into this stuff. + + + +Knapp: + +We were just talking about the UFO field in general, and you feel + +a little reluctant to get mixed up in it, although you ARE right + +now. + + + +Lazar: + +Unfortunately, yeah. + + + +Knapp: + +Why the reluctance? + + + +Lazar: + +I don't know. There are so MANY stories circulating around. + +Everyone has their own view. Each UFO researcher says they have + +the right story. And essentially, I don't want to side with + +anyone because I don't know where that information's come from, + +though they do all have the basic story: you know, there ARE + +alien crafts here; how they got here is, probably aliens brought + +them here, unless we really have a neat setup with the UPS. + + + +There's just so many different factions of them [UFO + +researchers], and they all kind of war between each other; I + +really don't want to get associated with them. + + + +Knapp: + +Before you got into the program at S-4, though, you had an + +interest in UFOs. It must be hard for people to swallow that + +here's a guy who has an interest in it and he gets hired into the + +program. + + + +Lazar: + +Well, there was a very brief time there I had sent out resumes to + +several places, and I wanted to get back into the scientific + +field again. Almost simultaneously, I met John Lear and read + +some of his material. And initially, I thought he was just + +absolutely crazy. But apparently, he did have a good source of + +information because, as it turns out, some of the information + +that he had I actually had hands-on experience with. + + + +Knapp: + +But your regard for UFOs in general: As a scientist, did you + +think there was something to it? + + + +Lazar: + +Absolutely not. + + + +Knapp: + +Absolutely nothing? + + + +Lazar: + +No. I would have stood on that 'til the day I died. + + + +Knapp: + +Many of the people who have been calling are UFO groups or UFO + +researchers who have demanded that you talk to them: We've got + +to talk to this guy; we want to give him a lot more publicity so + +he stays alive; we want him to give us information so that we can + +further check out his background, etc.; we want to protect him; + +we want to help him. + + + +You've resisted. You've done this program; you've done a couple + +of reports with us; and you've done a radio show or two; in + +general, you've resisted going into the UFO circuit. Why is + +that? + + + +Lazar: + +Just like I mentioned before: I just don't want to be associated + +with those guys. + + + +And how many people are you going to open up your background to + +and let them run rampant through it? I mean, private detectives, + +every UFO group in the world wants to do that! The idea was for + +me to release the information, essentially to protect myself and + +take some of the heat off. And I've done that. And that's all + +that needs to be done, really. + + + +Knapp: + +Certain UFO researchers claim they've been getting information + +from you all along; you've been leaking stuff to them; and that + +they've read these reports that verify the information. You've + +been working with UFO groups while you were in the program at S- + +4? + + + +Lazar: + +Not UFO groups. I did mention a couple of things to some people. + +That's all I'm gonna say. + + + +Knapp: + +Okay. In essence, were you breaking your vows that you made to + +the Government? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah. + + + +Knapp: + +And why did you feel that was necessary? I mean, you took an + +oath, didn't you? + + + +Lazar: + +Yeah. But look at the magnitude of what was going on. I believe + +that some of the technology -- maybe all of the technology -- + +should be kept secret, until we have a handle on everything. But + +certainly, the overview of what happened just cannot be a secret + +from anyone -- not just the American people, but the rest of the + +world. + + + +Let out the basic fact that we have these craft, at one time + +aliens did at least visit and drop off something, however they + +got here, that there was some contact made, and then cut it + +short. You don't need to release the information on the gravity + +generators, the weapon potential -- which is enormous -- and so + +on. + + + +Knapp: + +What could you do with that technology? Say you took the flying + +disks, the anti-matter reactors, the gravity generators, gave it + +to Los Alamos or Livermore, let them examine the potential + +abilities of this stuff. I mean, how would this affect life on + +earth if this stuff was widely available? + + + +Lazar: + +And mass-producable? + + + +Knapp: + +Yes. + + + +Lazar: + +That's tough to say. I mean, you have a completely different + +mode of travel. What happens when you can play with time? That + +gets into a really deep philosophical question there. + + + +Knapp: + +But I mean, it would change a lot of stuff, change everything. + + + +Lazar: + +Oh yeah! It would change absolutely everything! + + + +Knapp: + +Do you think it will ever come out? + + + +Lazar: + +Personally, no. + + + +Knapp: + +What do you hope happens, both with yourself and with this + +information? + + + +Lazar: + +There's been enough thorns put in their toes to where they do try + +and release something. + + + +Knapp: + +We'll have to have you come back, Bob. Thanks for joining us. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2899.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2899.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5dec133f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2899.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,2301 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON AREA51 FILE: UFO2899 + + + +PART 6 + + + + ======================================================== + + (C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service + + All Rights Reserved unless copyrighted by Author. + + ======================================================== + + + + + + + + Robert Lazar/Billy Goodman, KVEG-AM Radio 840 + + Based on its original three-hour, 11/21/89 broadcast, the + + following is KVEG's one-hour version, played at midnight 12/31/89 + + and at midnight + + 12/7/90: + + + + Goodman: + + You came on the CBS affiliate here in Las Vegas, Channel 8, + + saying there are flying saucers not too far from here. I don't + + want to say Area 51, right? + + + + Lazar: + + Right. It's Area S-4. A lot of people get that confused. It's + + about 10 miles south of Area 51, of Groom Lake, which is Area 51. + + + + Goodman: + + When people try to get down that dirt road, they get stopped by + + cars and everything. What are they protecting there? + + + + Lazar: + + Oh, Groom Lake -- that's Area 51. + + + + A lot of projects are going on at Groom Lake -- Area 51: + + Aurora -- a high-altitude, reconnaissance aircraft designed to + + replace the SR-71, some Star Wars research -- + + + + But there aren't and never has been any flying saucers at Area 51 + + at Groom Lake. + + + + Goodman: + + You have been at Area 51, so you can say that unequivocally, + + right? + + + + Lazar: + + Oh yeah. + + + + Goodman: + + Did you spend most of your time at S-4? + + + + Lazar: + + Groom Lake/Area 51 has a runway there, so if you want to go out + + to that part of the Test Site, you fly in and land at Groom Lake + + and then you take a bus south to Area S-4. + + + + Goodman: + + Have you actually landed on that airstrip at Groom Lake? + + + + Lazar: + + Yeah, every time I went out there I HAD to land there. + + + + Goodman: + + How often would you go out there? + + + + Lazar: + + It wasn't on a regular basis. They called me up and said, well, + + Thursday by 4:45, be at such and such a place and get on this + + plane, and, you know, you'll be out there. I hadn't worked into + + a regular schedule yet. + + + + Goodman: + + You're sitting at home and they say, you will be at a certain + + place at a certain time, or you will arrive there? How do you + + make sure you can make connections to get there at 4:45? Do they + + take care of all that for you too? + + + + Lazar: + + No, I just have to show up there. If I can't make it, I just + + have to tell them or call them with sufficient notice. + + + + Goodman: + + But they want you there for a specific reason because -- + + + + Lazar: + + -- well, to get on a specific flight. + + + + Goodman: + + And they want you there at Groom Lake so you can get to S-4. + + + + Lazar: + + Right. + + + + Goodman: + + When you get there, what are they usually looking for you to do? + + + + Lazar: + + That varied. Mainly educating me, catching me up to where + + everyone else was. + + + + Goodman: + + Grooming you. + + + + Lazar: + + Yeah. + + + + Goodman: + + And what were they grooming you for, Bob? + + + + Lazar: + + I dealt with mainly the propulsion of the extraterrestrial craft. + + There was a lot of material to read, a lot of briefings, a lot of + + research that had been done for quite some time that I had to + + catch up on before I could really get into it myself. So most of + + the time I spent reading and going over some things. + + + + There was some hands-on experience with some of the equipment + + from the discs and things of that sort. + + + + Goodman: + + Let's bring you back to the beginning. You're a young man, let's + + face it, you're a young man. What was your first reaction the + + first time you knew for a fact that we had flying saucers in our + + possession? You saw them with your own eyes. What was your + + first reaction to this? + + + + Lazar: + + Oh, it was exciting! What else can you say? It was really neat. + + The first time I saw it and I walked in and actually saw the + + disc, of course I couldn't say whether or not it was an alien + + device or just an interesting craft that we've been developing. + + So it was a little while before I had ascertained that it was an + + extraterrestrial craft. + + + + Goodman: + + Did they ever explain to you how it got there? + + + + Lazar: + + No, that I was never told. But they just took things very + + slowly. First I was exposed to the craft, and then I began to + + read the briefings. And they were monitoring me through the + + whole time, so they let me take things one step at a time, as + + they do for everyone that works there. + + + + Goodman: + + You got to be honest with me. Here you are a young man. You + + left there and you went home to the wife, to your neighborhood, + + sitting around having a cup of coffee. Did you ever say, hey + + man, you won't believe this, there are flying saucers! + + + + Lazar: + + Oh, I stuck with "the program" for a little while. + + + + Goodman: + + Well, what was "the program": Don't tell anybody? + + + + Lazar: + + Oh, most certainly. + + + + Goodman: + + Being inquisitive, I'm sure, as a young man, did you ever say, + + why is it that we can't tell anybody? + + + + Lazar: + + No, because being involved with many other classified projects at + + the other labs that I worked with, you don't ask that. You just + + assume that they know what they're doing. You're privileged to + + be in that project, so -- + + + + Goodman: + + So you just felt honored being there. + + + + Lazar: + + Exactly. + + + + Goodman: + + And you'd get home and sit there with the wife at the dinner + + table and not even talk about it? + + + + Lazar: + + Well, that didn't last for too long. + + + + Goodman: + + I can imagine, I mean: "How was your day today, dear? Anything + + exciting happen?" What would you say? + + + + Lazar: + + Not a whole lot. It caused a lot of friction, a tremendous + + amount. + + + + Goodman: + + Because you couldn't speak up -- you couldn't talk about what was + + going on. + + + + Lazar: + + Right. + + + + Goodman: + + Is your title "scientist"? + + + + Lazar: + + Physicist, but scientist is a good all-around description. + + + + Goodman: + + As far as you're concerned, there is no extraterrestrial activity + + up at Area 51 or Groom Lake. Has that always been the case? + + Because I heard, and I also read government papers -- maybe they + + lied -- but they said that Area 51 was the area where the U-2 + + came out of. + + + + Lazar: + + That's where the U-2 came out of, where the SR-71 came out of. + + Lots of things came out of there. + + + + Maybe a disk went THROUGH there. But they're just not stored and + + developed/worked on there. Sure, one may have rolled by there + + and someone may have -- There have been lots of reports of people + + at Area 51 who have said, at one time I saw a disk in a hangar. + + That may have happened, but it wasn't there permanently. + + + + Goodman: + + We took a group of people up there, about 200. And I was up + + there with them. I sat in the desert and I watched. + + + + And here's how I could describe it. Picture the 29-1/2-mile + + Marker, and we're leaking out at these peaks. All of a sudden + + over the peak something comes up. It appears over the peak. + + It's just a light. And you watch this light and you see it doing + + ZIGZAGS! + + + + Something's happened out there! Planes that we have that do + + those kind of maneuvers? + + + + Lazar: + + Well, without seeing it, I can't say. But I know when the tests + + are. + + + + Zelly: + + I watched you on the Channel 8 program, and my dog was barking + + when you were explaining the gravity theory. + + + + These craft don't use any type of gasoline, is that right? + + + + Lazar: + + Any type of GASOLINE? + + + + Zelly: + + Yeah. + + + + Lazar: + + No, they don't. + + + + Zelly: + + Okay, how do they get from A to B? + + + + Lazar: + + They bend space and time, using gravity. + + + + Zelly: + + Can you explain that to a layman like me in as simple terms as + + possible? + + + + Lazar: + + I can give a fairly accurate description. I haven't given this + + before, but I think this is the best one. + + + + The crafts have three gravity amplifiers on the bottom of them. + + What they do, assuming that they're in space; it's just easier to + + get this across that way: + + + + They will focus the three gravity amplifiers on the point they + + want to go to. + + + + Now to give an analogy, take a thin rubber sheet, lay it on a + + table, and put thumbtacks in each corner. Take a big stone, set + + it on one end of the rubber sheet, and say that's your UFO or + + spacecraft. + + + + Pick out a point you want to go to -- which could be anywhere on + + the rubber sheet -- pinch that point with your fingers, and pull + + that all the way up to the craft. That's how it focuses and + + pulls that point actually TO it. + + + + When you then shut off the gravity generators, the stone or your + + spacecraft follows that stretched rubber back to its point. + + There's no linear travel through space; it actually bends space + + and time and follows space as it retracts. + + + + Zelly: + + Is there a box on the craft that does this gravity focusing? + + + + Lazar: + + It's a complete system; it's not a single little box. + + + + Zelly: + + That's so hard to understand. Did you understand this easily? + + Did you comprehend this over months or years? + + + + Lazar: + + No, it didn't really take very long. The concept is difficult to + + grasp. + + + + Jeff from Canyon Lake, CA: + + Last Saturday night my cousin and I were out at Groom Lake, and + + we saw from the peak that I think you were describing, Billy, a + + very similar experience. We saw the lights originally over the + + top of the mountains and streak out to about a half a mile away + + from us and then just vanished. It lasted for seven to ten + + seconds. Then my cousin saw another sighting off to the south + + where your guest described the site. + + + + What was weird -- I got out the camera and was just about ready + + to take a picture and it vanished from the center out! It became + + transparent and all of a sudden it was gone. It was like nothing + + that I've ever seen before. What could it have been? + + + + Lazar: + + Without seeing it, I really can't say. + + + + Goodman: + + There is a theory that they can dematerialize or all of a sudden + + be so quick to get away from you that you lose sight of it + + instantly. Is that true? + + + + Lazar: + + You can lose sight of it without it even moving because -- just + + in view of the way things work -- when they warp time and space + + around the craft, they can actually -- + + + + This is the exact reason you can see stars behind the sun, + + because the sun has an intense gravitational field and it pulls + + space AROUND where you can begin to see the star behind it. It's + + just like in a disk: You can be looking straight up at it, and + + if the gravity generators are in the proper configuration, you'll + + just see the sky above it; you won't see the craft there. That's + + how there can be a group of people, and some people can be right + + under it and see it, and there can be people 100 feet off to the + + left and not see it. It just depends how the field is bent. + + + + It's also the reason why the crafts APPEAR as if they're making + + ninety-degree turns at some incredible speed; it's just the time + + and space distortion you're seeing; you're not seeing the actual + + event happening. + + + + Roger Number Two: + + Have you seen any aliens there? + + + + Lazar: + + You know, I really don't want to talk about aliens at S-4. It's + + just a weird topic. + + + + Roger: + + Three days ago on the Billy Goodman Happening, a worker at + + Mercury came on. Did you hear that show? + + + + Lazar: + + No. + + + + Roger: + + He went 3,000 feet underground, and when the elevator opened it + + was a stainless steel atmosphere. He's a worker laying electric + + wiring and lighting for this vast complex at Mercury. And he's + + been working there quite awhile. + + + + He told of the Marines down there with fixed bayonets that herded + + them into certain areas, took them out of other areas. And one + + day, he saw some doctors there with white coats -- smocks -- and + + they were wheeling along on gurneys some aliens with big heads, + + small bodies, arms, and so forth. + + + + Lazar: + + This is in Mercury? + + + + Roger: + + Yes. + + + + Lazar: + + That's a strange place for that to occur, though I have heard but + + do not have first-hand experience of any tunnels and things down + + there. Certainly, they have very deep tunnels and rooms under + + there for the nuclear tests. I don't know if they go down to + + 3,000 feet, though I think someone was just recently killed at + + 1,500 feet underground -- that was in the paper, so everyone + + knows they at least go down THAT deep. + + + + Roger: + + The information I have is that most of the underground areas are + + about 1,000 meters. + + + + Lazar: + + I really don't know how far they go down THERE. The thing that + + strikes me as unusual is you said there is a stainless steel + + atmosphere? + + + + Roger: + + Yes. That's the way he described it. They were putting up + + sheets of stainless steel because apparently they drilled with + + some kind of machine in this vast complex underground in the + + tunnels, and they had to put something to COVER that. + + + + Lazar: + + I understand what you're talking about now. In fact, I happen to + + know of somebody that drills those tunnels down there. + + + + Roger: + + Are they the type that go through and push the top off the earth + + to the SIDE and have square corners to compact it, leaving no + + residue? + + + + Lazar: + + I really don't remember how the person described it to me. I + + think it's a 24-foot-diameter drill that is driven, and it's + + hydraulically operated, and they just DRIVE the thing. + + + + Roger: + + But it must not leave any residue then. + + + + Lazar: + + Probably not. Either that or it channels it out backwards and is + + somehow relayed out of the hole. + + + + Guardian Angel: + + Does Bob feel secure after he's left this out. I pray no one has + + made any attempt on you at all? + + + + Lazar: + + Well, they made attempts on me before, but not since. And as far + + as feeling secure, no, I don't. I'm really waiting for the + + repercussions. + + + + Guardian: + + I wish you would really stay close to the show with Billy. I + + think we would enjoy talking and asking questions of you. And + + you'd better believe that they would have to answer to us if all + + of a sudden you would come up [wrong.] + + + + You said Wednesday nights are normally when these saucers are + + seen. + + + + Lazar: + + Right. + + + + Guardian: + + Can I ask you what your clearance was out there at S-4? + + + + Lazar: + + I'd rather not say because the name is -- + + It's 38 levels above Q-Clearance, which is the highest civilian + + clearance; it is SUPPOSED to be the highest civilian clearance. + + + + Goodman: + + It starts at Q and goes from there -- one, two, three? Is that + + how it works? + + + + Lazar: + + I don't know what the intermediate levels are. + + + + Goodman: + + You don't know if there are 37 others; it's just the number they + + gave you; is that correct? + + + + Lazar: + + No, there ARE 37 others. + + + + Kevin: + + I was interested in the condition and shape of the disk that he + + claims he saw up at Area S-4 on the Range. + + + + Lazar: + + The condition and shape? The condition seemed new, as I said on + + the TV program. It seemed almost brand new, like I said, if I + + know what a new flying saucer looks like. As far as the shape, + + have you ever seen any of the Billy Meiers photographs? + + + + Kevin: + + I've seen a couple, yes. + + + + Lazar: + + There's one that it bears a striking resemblance to. It's one -- + + I coined the term the Sport Model. It doesn't have any weird + + protrusions; it's a slim, thin disk with ridges in it, and it + + bears an incredible resemblance to that; and I tend to think that + + it IS that disk. + + + + Kevin: + + Approximate dimensions? + + + + Lazar: + + Approximately 30-35 feet by 15 feet tall. + + + + Kevin: + + How close were you allowed to be? + + + + Lazar: + + I stood inside the doorway. + + + + Kevin: + + Were you able to determine what the metallic makeup was? + + + + Lazar: + + No. + + + + Goodman: + + Did you touch it at any time? + + + + Lazar: + + Oh yeah. + + + + Goodman: + + What does it feel like? + + + + Lazar: + + It feels like ordinary metal. + + + + Goodman: + + Like aluminum? + + + + Lazar: + + Can you feel the difference between steel and aluminum? + + + + Goodman: + + Steel is colder than aluminum, I understand, to the feel. + + + + Lazar: + + I'm not a metallurgist. + + + + Goodman: + + Reports say there's a very thin feel to it. + + + + Lazar: + + I didn't feel the thickness of it; I felt the outside. It could + + be a micron thick or a foot thick; I wouldn't know. + + + + Goodman: + + You say you never saw the metal itself off to the side. + + + + Lazar: + + Not pieces of it, just the disk itself. + + + + Goodman: + + What was the disk doing? + + + + Lazar: + + Sitting there. + + + + Goodman: + + How was it sitting there? On the bottom? + + + + Lazar: + + Yeah, it was on tripod legs; they were actually resting on the + + bottom of the disk. + + + + Goodman: + + Were there people milling around it? + + + + Lazar: + + Not at the time I walked up to it, no. There were people in the + + area, yeah. + + + + Goodman: + + Is that the only one you ever saw? + + + + Lazar: + + No, I saw the other ones but at a great distance. + + + + Goodman: + + What were THEY doing? + + + + Lazar: + + They were just parked in the hangars. + + + + Goodman: + + Like an airplane. + + + + Lazar: + + Essentially. + + + + Goodman: + + You never saw them land or take off? + + + + Lazar: + + No, never. I don't even know if they were operational. + + + + Deadhead Dean: + + I took a class in quantum physics. + + + + Lazar: + + That's a fun class, wasn't it? + + + + Dean: + + Yeah, it was for me. But we studied a lot about gravity. We + + studied about gravitons. + + + + Lazar: + + The theory of gravitons is wrong. But physics has always done + + that: Where there's a question, they create a particle. You + + must know what I'm talking about -- photons and things like that. + + + + Dean: + + Have you found anything that confirms the existence of gravitons? + + + + Lazar: + + No. Everything denied the existence of gravitons. Gravity is a + + WAVE, and there are actually two waves that are misconstrued as + + one force. And they're called Gravity A and B. + + + + Dean: + + What's you general attitude about quantum physics and the quantum + + theory? + + + + Lazar: + + That can last all night. If you want to talk to me privately + + about that, I'd be happy to talk to you. + + + + Dean: + + I'm interested in how it connects with the Grand Unified Field + + Theory. We were told that if we could confirm the existence of + + some of these quantum particles, we could fit in -- + + + + Lazar: + + Right. I don't want to say my number over the air; that would be + + a disaster. You could write in care of the station, and Billy + + could get it to me and I could write back to you. The Unified + + Field Theory is a lot more simple; they say the BEAUTIFUL theory + + will be the Unified Field Theory; it is a lot simpler than + + physics is after right now. + + + + Dean: + + On the KLAS show you said the extraterrestrial crafts you saw + + were from another solar system completely. Do you believe that + + because you know where they are from or because you just ruled + + out any of the other planets in the solar system as habitable? + + + + Lazar: + + No, that's because I know where they're from. + + + + Goodman: + + Where are you actually working right now, Bob? + + + + Lazar: + + I have my own company; I work for myself. + + + + Goodman: + + Are you inventing things? What do you do? + + + + Lazar: + + I'd rather not say. + + + + Goodman: + + That's your privilege, sir. I just thought I'd give you a plug, + + if it's a business. + + + + Lazar: + + I still conduct business with the Government in a technical + + aspect. + + + + Goodman: + + A consultant-type thing maybe? + + + + Lazar: + + You could say that. + + + + ETC: + + Does "M42" mean anything to you? + + + + Lazar: + + Not of the top of my head. + + + + ETC: + + Okay, very good. + + How do you rate Hawkings? + + + + Lazar: + + Stephen Hawkings? There's a lot I could say about him. A lot of + + the basic theory is incorrect. But he's a very thorough guy. + + Have you read his book? + + + + ETC: + + Yes I have. I'm an experimental researcher. + + + + You're a physicist. Now, how far back do you go as far as + + traveling backwards through time? Can you go to the Big Bang + + theory and then subscribe to it? + + + + Lazar: + + I'll go with the Big Bang theory, but there are so many other + + variables, so many other things really could have happened, + + that's more of a cosmology viewpoint. I'm concerned mainly with + + particle physics, high-energy physics, and that sort of thing. + + + + ETC: + + Isn't that where it all began? + + + + Lazar: + + Yeah it is. But when you're talking on a macro scale like that, + + you're sliding out of my field of expertise. I do subscribe to + + the Big Bang theory; there WAS a big bang. Where the initial + + particle came from -- there's a great debate about that. + + + + ETC: + + Could you give me an estimate where they're getting creation + + versus evolution? Was the big bang a part of evolution or was it + + a part of creation? And was there a creation or an evolution + + before that? + + + + Lazar: + + Well, that's a chicken or the egg question, to me. I would say + + that the big bang was followed by a natural evolution, though I + + don't think things just evolved to where everything is now + + without interaction. + + + + ETC: + + Very good. I guess I'm going back too far. You seem to be a + + real logical scientist; you don't want to go out on a limb with + + theories; you want to stick to facts. + + + + Lazar: + + I'd really rather do that. + + + + ETC: + + And that's very good. + + And what IS the fact? How far can you really trace us back, to + + absolutes, where you drop off from absolutes into your theories? + + + + Lazar: + + Probably from the instant of detonation of the big bang. + + + + ETC: + + That's microseconds, right? + + + + Lazar: + + I'd say even before that. + + + + ETC: + + Okay, very good. + + + + Lazar: + + It might go into -- + + + + ETC: + + Do you feel the new telescopes coming up into space will help + + solve that mystery? + + + + Lazar: + + Oh yeah. It will certainly pose a lot more questions though. + + + + Goodman: + + What is this Big Bang theory? + + + + Lazar: + + How the universe was initiated. I think the way that was + + detected was, someone looked and just happened to notice that all + + the galaxies were moving AWAY from a certain point at certain + + speeds. And they did a computer analysis and, I'm not really + + sure how this progressed, but they were able to reverse the + + directions and everything came to a single point. And they + + assumed that there was at one time an unbelievable massive + + particle that exploded. + + + + Goodman: + + Like a meteorite-type thing? Bigger than that? + + + + Lazar: + + Actually smaller than that. It gets really crazy. + + + + Goodman: + + But this thing that did explode . . . + + + + Lazar: + + Right, there was a tremendous explosion. It threw EVERYTHING + + out; gases and things condensed into matter and essentially + + formed the universe: that's the Big Bang theory. + + + + Goodman: + + How many flying saucers have you seen? + + + + Lazar: + + Nine. + + + + Goodman: + + And you know for a fact they did not come from here, right? Or + + where do you think they came from originally? + + + + Lazar: + + I didn't see them delivered. My best guesstimation is that they + + came from another, well, another world. + + + + Goodman: + + And when they are flown in this S-4 area, are they flown by + + aliens or by military pilots? + + + + Lazar: + + They're either flown by remote control or flown by military + + pilots. I say either remote control or people because I did not + + actually see who got into the disk. + + + + Goodman: + + Did it look like there was a lot of room in the disk? How large + + were these things? + + + + Lazar: + + No, there's not that much room inside. + + + + Goodman: + + You'd have to be small, I would imagine. + + + + Lazar: + + Right. + + + + Space Case: + + I heard John Lear talking about drugs and hypnosis being used on + + individuals that are working with the ET project. Do you confirm + + that? + + + + Also, when the guys were at the Red Rock area or wherever the + + vortex is at Blue Point, someone said they had a scar on their + + shoulder or arm after the encounter. John mentioned that anyone + + who was involved or abducted, drugs and hypnosis were used on + + him. Do you know anything about that? Is it possible that group + + could have been abducted by people involved with the project, why + + they lost time, and why some of them had scars, like maybe there + + was a hyper- or gravity or something like that? + + + + Lazar: + + I have no information on abductions. + + + + The drugs and hypnosis: Now, I found out about this -- though + + supposedly this happened to me -- I found out about this through + + regressive hynosis. I had vivid memory of everything, but there + + were a couple of days that I only remembered going out on a plane + + and coming back on a plane, and I thought it was really strange. + + + + I decided to try a clinical hypnotist. His name is Layne Keck at + + Serenus Clinic here in Las Vegas. He had no idea what we were + + talking about -- anything to do with UFOs. I wanted to go with + + someone that was completely unbiased. + + + + And I just stepped back under hypnosis ENTIRE DAYS so I could + + read -- re-read the reports and things and get things a little + + clearer. + + + + And there was just an INTENSE drilling period of rhythmic yells + + in a room with some guys continuously threatening me. I said -- + + under hypnosis -- I was drinking something that smelled like + + pine, which even sounds strange to me, but I heard myself on + + tape, and as I describe this -- I'm not that familiar with + + hypnosis -- but Layne said it's similar to something the military + + uses called "The Orion Method," some sort of regimented hypnosis. + + + + Space Case: + + John said that's why most of this stuff there is kept secret, + + because the people that work there -- when they first go up there + + -- are indoctrinated with the drugs and the hypnosis. + + + + And then when they leave the site or wherever they're working on + + this stuff, they go back to their normal way of living and have + + no memory of it. + + + + Then when they come back into the security, they walk through a + + room or something triggers them into a trance or regimen again. + + And then they work under hypnosis having no memory. + + + + Then when they come back into the real world, they forget again. + + + + And that's why these people can go on these missions and go down + + to Africa and pick up these saucers, nobody having any record or + + memory of it at all. Does that make sense to you at all? + + + + Lazar: + + That sounds cool, but I don't know. I can't confirm or deny + + that. + + + + Obviously, something is done, something WAS done in the area of + + hynosis to me, and I'm sure, other people that work there. But + + whether they can turn you on or off, I really don't know. Maybe + + they can do that. It sounds even far-fetched to me, but I really + + don't know. + + + + Goodman: + + You don't think it's possible that as you arrive in the morning, + + the effects have worn off, and you get in there and you do your + + job. + + + + Lazar: + + I can't say anything is impossible anymore because I keep finding + + out different. Sure that's possible. But I'm a nuts-and-bolts + + guy and I can't say, as a matter of fact that is true and that's + + false. I don't know. + + + + Goodman: + + But there must be some power that they have over everybody, Bob, + + that they leave there everyday, go back to their families; + + something has to occur. + + + + Lazar: + + Yeah, but how come I had total memory of most of the stuff I was + + involved in then? + + + + Goodman: + + I'm not saying you, per se. I'm saying other people up there. + + There must be something where they have a way of controlling + + them, so that when they leave there they forget or they just go + + into something else. + + + + Lazar: + + Right. I have a hard time believing everyone can adhere to "the + + program." I mean, how strong can you possibly be? Yeah, there + + must be a way. It can't be just threats. + + + + Tim: + + Are you familiar with the latest scientific evidence: Right in + + the center of our Milky Way galaxy there's a black hole -- + + + + Lazar: + + Black hole, yeah. That's not very late; they theorized that + + awhile ago. As a matter of fact, it's now thought that in the + + center of EVERY galaxy there's a black hole. + + + + Tim: + + How sure are they that they have one in ours? + + + + Lazar: + + I really don't know. + + + + Tim: + + You said you stepped in the doorway of the spaceship. Did you + + actually step onto the spaceship? + + + + Lazar: + + Yes. + + + + Tim: + + Did it make a sound when you stepped on it? + + + + Lazar: + + No. + + + + Tim: + + What color was the inside interior? + + + + Lazar: + + It was all the same color as the outside -- just a dull aluminum + + finish, is the best way I can describe it. + + + + Tim: + + When you worked for this agency, what method did they use to pay + + you? Did they send you a check every two weeks, or what? + + + + Lazar: + + Checks, yeah. + + + + Tim: + + Do you have the check stubs? + + + + Lazar: + + I don't want to talk about that right now. + + + + Tim: + + But you got paid by check? + + + + Lazar: + + Right. + + + + Tim: + + You said the way the aliens travel in the spaceships they + + generate the gravity, and it pulls one side of the universe + + towards it -- + + + + Lazar: + + Yeah, I wouldn't go as far as the universe, but a great distance + + toward it, yeah. They can't exert a gravitational field + + throughout the universe -- just some limited distance -- I don't + + know what it is. + + + + Tim: + + But do they do it toward the Earth? + + + + Lazar: + + No, toward the craft, wherever the craft is. + + + + Tim: + + When they want to go to Earth, they aim it toward the Earth? + + + + Lazar: + + Right. + + + + Tim: + + Do you think this is the reason why I occasionally feel dizzy? + + + + Lazar: + + I doubt it. + + + + Tim: + + If you built a spaceship that travels at the speed of light and + + you turn on the headlights, what would happen? + + + + Lazar: + + Exactly what would happen if you had a spacecraft, for instance, + + traveling at the speed of light and you were sitting on the front + + of it and you fired a bullet that also moved at the speed of + + light. People ask, how fast does that bullet move in relation to + + a stationary object? And the layman would say, twice the speed + + of light. But no, nothing ever exceeds the speed of light + + because mass increases and so on and so forth. + + + + But if you're a spacecraft, of course it can travel AT the speed + + of light, but if it APPROACHES it, can you turn your headlights + + on? They don't do very much good. + + + + Chris: + + I theorized that gravity transcends conventional space-time, and + + that a massive object at one end of the universe is attracting + + instantaneously objects at other parts of the universe -- + + extremely subtle effect, obviously, how many angels on the head + + of a needle. + + + + And I have one question about Fleischman and Pons. + + + + Lazar: + + That's an interesting group. + + + + Gravity propagates instantly, by the way. + + + + Chris: + + I've been interested in theoretical physics for the last 20 + + years; I've driven myself crazy. And I disagree with Steven + + Hawkings too. + + + + Lazar: + + I don't want to shoot down Steven Hawkings; he's a brilliant man. + + There are some basic physics that are wrong. + + + + Chris: + + Could you comment on Fleischman and Pons? I maintain that they + + are correct and that this hass been covered up by the oil + + companies. + + + + Lazar: + + I don't agree with that. + + + + Chris: + + In the fusion method that they're using, obviously we don't have + + a football-sized-field machine creating their fusion, so electro- + + chemical-reaction fusion seems to me very plausible, rather than + + inertial magnetic confinement. + + + + Lazar: + + Inertial magnetic confinement is garbage, and so is laser fusion. + + It's ridiculous. + + + + Laser fusion is totally stupid. The concept is there, but the + + materials aren't, and to start a laser reaction the lasers have + + to fire MANY times a minute. We can initiate a reaction -- I + + think our best laser is Shiva [sp] down at Livermore. I think + + that has to cool down for several hours. It's a tremendous waste + + of money. + + + + Dennis in L.A.: + + I'm a member of the Operating Engineers, Local 12. I work in the + + Los Angeles area. Is Reynolds Electric part of that base out + + there? + + + + Lazar: + + No, Reynolds is not out there, and neither is any other + + subcontractor -- Reynolds, EG&G -- + + + + Dennis: + + Are they up in Tonopah? + + + + Lazar: + + Reynolds is at the Test Site proper, the nuclear test site. I'm + + not that familiar. The highest clearance they can attain is Q, + + through REECO and EG&G and those guys. So the closest they get + + is down to Area 51 and roam around there. + + + + Gary: + + You said you came public with this information to protect + + yourself. + + + + Lazar: + + Yeah. + + + + Gary: + + How serious is this? What length will the Government go to + + conceal this? + + + + Lazar: + + Oh man, you must be kidding! Everything possible! I can't even + + describe it. Any length at all. I don't even know what to say + + to answer that. + + + + Gary: + + What's on your horizon now, as far as the Government's concerned? + + Aren't they gonna want to talk to you? + + + + Lazar: + + I think that would be a really strange thing for them to do. Any + + action on their part right now would guarantee what I'm saying is + + true. So I think now it's going to be a hands-off policy, which + + is just absolutely fine with me. That's the only thing I wanted. + + + + It's only been a week since anything has gone on. In fact, + + someone said, if they're following me now, it's to make sure + + nothing happens to me. + + + + Gary: + + I heard you speak of Blue Diamond before. What's going on there? + + + + Lazar: + + I love this subject! That's where the "vortex" is. There is no + + vortex. Blue Diamond is a place where people gather to look at + + supposedly an entry-way for flying saucers. They don't enter + + through that. If you want to see a vortex, I suggest you flush + + your toilet and look inside. + + + + There's a gravity anomaly there -- a slight difference in + + gravity, the gravitational wave there -- but those are all over + + the place. It has nothing with anything. + + + + Goodman: + + Is it because you know the past record of the Government, how + + they react to situations? If someone becomes more public, they + + tend not to do something that would cause them problems? + + + + Lazar: + + No, I don't know that for a fact. I'm just HOPING that. + + + + Gene Huff (in studio with Lazar): + + Billy, I think there's a minor misunderstanding here. I think + + people have gotten the impression that he was in "the program," + + actively in there and for some reason he decided he was in + + trouble and just decided to get out. + + + + All of this stems from them beginning not -- + + Again, he just went out there on a periodic basis -- more or less + + on call. And after he got caught out there showing John Lear, + + myself, and the other people the flying saucer tests, after that + + they debriefed him, and after that they continued to monitor his + + phone. His phone was tapped. And what they wanted to stop -- + + and why he thinks they might do something -- is, they THREATENED + + him. And they called him on the phone and threatened him because + + they were monitoring basically his plan for the exposure of this. + + + + And that's what they wanted to stop. In fact, we've got the word + + through the grapevine that they're amazed; they don't know what + + to do because they've never had someone that used drugs, used + + hypnosis, drilled in their head not to come forward with this, + + and they can't believe that a guy actually went on television. + + And they're really at a loss for what to do. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2900.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2900.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a2cdf331 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2900.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: SIGHTING OVER AREA51 FILE: UFO2900 + + + + +Mon 22 Feb 93 23:32 +By: Don Allen +To: All +Re: AREA 51: QUE COSA ES? +St: +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ + * Forwarded from "UFO" + * Originally by Jim Nelson + * Originally to Bruce Lewis + * Originally dated 21 Feb 1993, 2:34 + +About two years ago, a friend and I saw something flying over the area I had +been told was Groom Lake. AAA Auto Club maps of Nevada show Groom Lake and Mud +Lake on them (Mud Lake is near the Tonopah home of the F-117s before moving to +Holloman AFB in New Mexico). I'm told by sitting near where the highway turns +towards the northeast from a southerly heading south of Warm Springs, you can +see 'interesting' things flying, mostly at night. I was told the best night to +see things is Wednesday night since that is supposedly the night with the least +amount of traffic on the road. I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND AGAINST GOING OFF OF +THE HIGHWAY AT NIGHT. We got 400 feet off of the road and within 10 minutes we +had headlight coming across the desert at us. We didn't wait to see who was +coming out to greet us... + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2901.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2901.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..da284689 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2901.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +SUBJECT: GROOM LAKE/AREA 51/ETC. FILE: UFO2901 + + + + + +Date: 11-22-93 (22:44) Number: 24995 of 25005 (Refer# NONE) + To: ALBERT DOBYNS +From: MICHAEL CURTA +Subj: GROOM LAKE/AREA 51/ETC +Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) +Conf: Fidonet_UFO (21) Read Type: GENERAL (+) + +Hi, + +Let me try and answer a few questions on the Famed "AREA 51" + +First off "AREA 51" is only a grid on a map and not a installation. +The facility at Groom Dry Lake NV. is located with in Grid/Area 51 of +the Desert MOA and was given the name "AREA 51" by a ufologist or and +Aviation buff. Some of the workers at the facility call it The Ranch, +The Box, The Zone, but, most just call it The Test Site. Rachel, NV. +is located about 25 miles NNE. of "AREA 51"on HWY 375 and is home to The +Little A-le-Inn [Little Alien] bar and grill. + +The facility called S-4 located at papoose Dry Lake is about 10 miles +WSW. of "51" The is the facility where Lazar claims to have worked on +UFOS. Unlike "51" the Govt does acknowledge the existence of a facility +called S-4 but to my knowlage will not say anymore the that. Presently +The Air Force is trying to take control of 3,900 acers of public land so +that they denie access to a White Sides Mnt. This is a good sopt to +look down on the facility a Groom Lake. I do not know why thay wish to +do this as in 1994 the The Open Skies Treaty will be in force allowing +overflying of the area by other Govts. Satelite photos are for sale from +different sorces, inc. the U.S. Govt. If you would like more info the +this please let me know and I will get you the address. Please let me +know if I can answer any other questions. + +Regards, +Michael + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2902.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2902.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..fa54657c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2902.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +SUBJECT: AREA 51 UPDATE FILE: UFO2902 + + + + +Thu 10 Jun 93 14:50 +Re: "AREA 51" UPDATE +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +Original From: MICHAEL CURTA +To: ALL + 06/06/93 +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Hello, + + +Recently, I took a trip the the a place known as "AREA 51" the following is +some of what I saw over a 4 day period in the area of the "Test Site". + + +We arrived early on Monday evening. Within a few minutes security made a +driveby. Shortly after that 3 gold flares appeared to our South, they were +only visable for a few seconds before going out. Later, around around 1030 we +saw a "light in the sky" to our North. the light was some distance away as we +watched it make several rapid climbs and descents, right angle turns, and +other strange manuvers. This object was visible all 3 nights we were in the +area of "AREA 51" Monday and Tuesday visits were both about 30 minutes long, +while Wednesday's almost an hour long. + + +Tuesday and Wednesday nights we were also visited by a strange light that +appeared in the area of "AREA 51". This light appeared above the Groom Range +and did not move it started out dim then became very bright, stayed bright for +sometime before becoming dim again, this same actions were repeated several +times then the light would go out completely then be back a short time later. +There did not seem to be any pattern to the light appearances and +disappearances. About 9:30pm on Tuesday we heard what sounded like a pulsating +sound that lasted about 1 or 2 mins. before becoming steady, we could tell +that something took off and passed to our South but we could not see what it +was, as there was no strobe lights. + + +On a trip down Groom Lake Road to the start of "THE ZONE" (13mi. West of Hwy +375) We stopped off at the Trail Head for a hike up White Sides Mountain. +White Sides is about a 2,000 foot mountian that is on public land a mile or so +outside "THE ZONE" that you can climb for a look at "AREA 51". At the start of +our trip security stopped by to inquire about our well being. The trip to the +top was hot, windy, and long. once at the top we were able to see some of the +runway, a water tower, and several buildings. Not much new to report on any +new buildings being built. Security watched us during our climb but did not +try to stop us. We did not take any cameras with us or I am sure they would +have stopped us. Thanks to the White Sides Defense Committee (an underground +group trying to keep the Govt. from seizing the mountain.) the trail to the +top was well marked. + + +"THE ZONE" is about a 2mi. drive from the White Sides Parking area. When we +arrived we knew we were there, and so did security. Several signs were seen +the most important one being DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED. There is no gate no +fence just several striped post going over the hillside. The guard house is +said to up the road about a mile. If you make it to the guard house it's a +good bet you are going to jail! + + +Thursday we moved in closer to the air base itself (Nellis AFB.) We were +witness to several different aircraft doing manuvers over Las Vegas, but the +only aliens we saw were walking on the strip... + + +So what was it we saw in the desert sky on those nights in late May? I only +wish we knew... + + +I would like to send our sincere thanks for the great hospitality to, Joe & +Pat Travis at the "Little A"Le"inn" in Rachel, NV. and the Glenn Campball +Rachel,NV. for all of his help and for his outstanding book "AREA 51" VIEWER'S +GUIDE. + + +Michael Curta +Denver Co. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2903.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2903.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0cc1a49c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2903.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +SUBJECT: LETTERS BETWEEN PARANET & GOLDWATER FILE: UFO2903 + + + + +The following is a series of correspondence between ParaNet +Special Contributor John Aultman of Mississippi, and former +Senator Barry Goldwater, R-AZ. Your interpretation of Goldwater's +response would be greatly appreciated. +----------------------------------------------------------------- +John D. Aultman +PO Box 2131 +Hattiesburg, MS 39403-2131 + + September 8, 1987 + + +Senator Barry M. Goldwater, K7UGA +Scottsdale, AZ 85253 + + +Dear Senator Goldwater: + +In June of this year I wrote to you regarding a number of letters +which certain individuals in the field of UFO investigation claim +they have received from you concerning your involvement with +certain aspects of the UFO. In particular, your attempts to gain +access to certain information the government is alleged to have +in its possession. Since I have received no response to my prior +letter, I would once again like to ask you to confirm whether +these letters are authentic. I am enclosing facsimile copies of +these letters (downloaded from a computer bulletin board). Some +errors in spelling and style may be present due to the nature of +their being fed into a computer and printed, but they are +supposed to be true to the originals. + +I fully realize that you get a lot of correspondence, perhaps +more than you would like, from people like me seeking to obtain +information. As I stated in my previous letter, there are many +letters and documents in circulation in the UFO research +community pertaining to different aspects of the overall picture. +Some are obviously false, others aren't. What I am trying to do +is establish, once and for all, the authenticity of some of these +documents. If you would confirm that you wrote the letters or +didn't, then you can help clarify at least one aspect of this +area of UFO research. I know of several individuals who are +claiming, without having any contact with you that I can +determine, that the letters from you are fakes. I would +greatly appreciate your assistance in this matter. + +Sincerely Yours, + + +John D. Aultman, KA5UBL + + + +Barry Goldwater +Scottsdale, AZ + +September 24, 1987 +Dictated: Washington, DC +Transcribed: Phoenix, AZ + +Mr. John D. Aultman +PO Box 2131 +Hattiesburg, MS 39403-2131 + +Dear Mr. Aultman: + +I did receive your letter, but there is really nothing that I can +add to what you already have spoken of. I cannot give you any +other information because all of my files are now the property of +The Arizona Historical Foundation at Arizona State University. + +Sincerely, +/s/ +Barry Goldwater + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2904.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2904.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4463665f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2904.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,964 @@ +SUBJECT: THE AVIARY, THE AQUARIUM, AND ESCHATOLOGY FILE: UFO2904 + + + + + + by Vince Johnson + +===================================================================== +Courtesy of C.E.R.N., the Close Encounters Research Network. This +article published in the CE CHRONICLES, the journal of C.E.R.N. in +the Nov-Dec 1993 *premier* edition. + +Subscriptions: Annual subscriptions to CE Chronicles are currently +available to non-members for $18 (domestic) and $25 (foreign). For +more information, membership applications or to report a paranormal +event, call (713) 558-1630 or write: CERN, 10878 Westheimer, Suite +293, Houston, Texas 77042 -- BBS at (713) 558-5342. +===================================================================== + + +Eschatology: + +1: The branch of theology concerned with the final events in the +history of the world or of mankind. + +2: A belief concerning death, the end of the world, or the ultimate +destiny of mankind; specifically any of the various Christian +doctrines concerning the Second Coming, the resurrection of the dead, +or the Last Judgement. +====================================================================== + + +As more than a casual observer of contemporary ufology, I've recently +become aware of a what could be a significant new twist in popular +perception about UFOs. For many, UFOs are not the manifestation of +extraterrestrial intelligence, but instead, are a metaphysical +phenomena -- a manifestation of spiritual entities. Many +abductees/contactees are now characterizing their "unusual personal +experiences" in a religious or metaphysical context. + +As an unabashed secular humanist, I am skeptical of these claims. But +there are several aspects of the metaphysical interpretation of the +UFO phenomenon that should be considered before rejecting it out of +hand. + +Admittedly, a lot of what follows is based on rumor, hearsay and +circumstantial evidence. Much is derived from numerous phone calls +from Dan Smith, whose religious beliefs regarding the UFO phenomenon +have induced a messianic zeal to "spread the Word." + +These calls have provided a flurry of information on what I have +previously termed "fringe" beliefs, as well as providing the names and +backgrounds of the birds who comprise the Aviary. According to Dan, +who undoubtedly is privy to a wealth of accurate, though not widely +known UFO information, this data is being released through him due to +the grave concern by high government officials about impending +metaphysical catastrophe - the eschaton, or the end of the world. + +Mr. Smith first came to my attention after the "Aquarium Conspiracy" +article (see inset) was disseminated to computer bulletin board +systems in the Spring of '93. In this article, Smith and Rosemary +Ellen Guiley, directors of the Center for North American Crop Circle +Studies, warned of an "eschatological emergency, "the reaction of +various organizations--both inside and outside the government, and +their attempt to establish a network of spiritually advanced +individuals, the "Aquarium," to assist the Aviary in dealing with this +crisis. + +-- inset -- + +The "Aquarium Conspiracy" by Dan Smith and Rosemary Ellen Guiley + +"In the beginning there was eschatology--the branch of theology +dealing with the end times. Dan, having spent many years first +studying physics and then metaphysics, came to the conclusion that the +scientists have been looking at the world upside down. Mind, not +matter, is the foundation for all realities. Moreover, the materialist +paradigm was in danger of imminent collapse, being subverted on the +inside by its own contradictions, and on the outside by the growing +body of evidence for the paranormal. Creating and maintaining a +reality is no easy game. It requires a lot of magic, and a lot of +conscious critters like ourselves who are pretty good at collective +self-deception. Fortunately-- or perhaps unfortunately--our particular +reality game has about reached its natural conclusion, and we are +waking up to the fact that mind and matter are not separate. We are +undergoing an exciting but stressful revolution in our collective +consciousness. This revolution, or global spiritual emergency, will +bring upheavals and overloads in our global consciousness that will +impact the material Earth for better or worse, and may quickly get out +of control. We also will be opening up to other realities that will be +impacting us as well. Our present very tidy sense of reality and its +boundaries is due to become much more fluid and permeable. Every +spiritual tradition takes very seriously its prophesies about the end +of the world, but for the first time we are seeing these prophesies +turning into believable predictions of earth and reality changes. That +is how Dan fell from physics into eschatology. After experiencing +numerous slammed doors among his former scientific colleagues, he +decided that the most logical place to find fellow eschatologists +would be in various intelligence agencies and among investigators of +the paranormal. Dan next addressed how to communicate about the +eschaton. Even a small hint that the government is worried about the +end of the world might start a chain reaction of panic, which could +possibly serve as a trigger for the eschaton. On the other hand, +people inside the government might be wanting to set up a kind of +civil defense network vis a vis the eschaton, and so they would be +looking for people on the outside who could much more freely network +among the general public. An important link in the communication chain +is what has become known as the Aviary. This is the final link next to +the public network, and so it must be heavily disguised by its own +surrealistic smoke screen. The Aviary functions best by amplifying +people's own misconceptions about the paranormal. It does this by +helping to overinflate individual pieces of the puzzle so that +particular investigators get pushed further into their own blind +alleys. People are encouraged to be so distracted by the trees that +they fail to see the forest. This cacophony by people looking for +truth in all the strangest places provides an excellent cover for the +deadly serious business of clearing the decks and battening down the +hatches for the eschaton event. It is like a Manhattan Project going +on behind the scenes of alien grays and praying mantises having sex +with humans. However, this eschaton conspiracy is being orchestrated +by higher powers, and we don't mean the Committee of 300. Very few of +the people even near the center of the orchestration have a clear +picture of what is coming down, but they do know that something is +coming and that they will have front row seats. The Manhattan Project +relative to the eschaton is a global civilian network of people who +will serve as a lightning rod for the cosmic energies coming in during +the consciousness revolution. They will be looking to channel these +energies into expanded realities. Thus, they will provide a degree of +protection for those people who can find their places alongside the +network. Outside of the network there will be greater levels of trauma +and confusion. The pieces of the network are already in place, the +remaining task is to properly activate and link the pieces into a +critical mass of awareness. This last step is now underway. This is +how an Aviary helps to spawn an Aquarium, and how birds learn to swim. +The Aquarium is our business, and we are working to reach people who +are ready to be activated in the consciousness revolution." + +--- + +I was intrigued after reading the "Aquarium Memo" because it implied +that the authors had cultivated sources within the intelligence +community. The only question was whether this information was accurate +or bogus. I drafted a response and uploaded it to Don Allen, moderator +for the FIDO UFO conference, requesting that he forward it to Dan +Smith. Several days later, I received the first of many calls from +him. + +Since Smith had alluded to his close contacts with the Aviary, most of +my questions centered around this mysterious group of alleged UFO +insiders comprised of scientists, military personnel, and inteligence +analysts. Dan's primary contact with this group is "Pelican" who +reportedly mans the "Wierd Desk" (UFOs,etc) at CIA. While Pelican's +main job with the CIA's Directorate of Science and Technology is to +monitor foreign technological developments, Pelican also tracks +millennial/eschatological communities, "entering a twilight zone where +psychic techniques are being generated by humans and other entities," +says Smith. + +According to Smith, UFOs are primarily a psychological/metaphysical +phenomenon which are both preparing us and pressuring us to develop +our own psi abilities. Not that UFOs are a single type of entity, +Smith asserts that there are "powers and principalities" at work -- +presumably supernatural entities like angels and demons. + +Furthermore, he said that a radical program of parapsychological +research and development is currently underway near Los Alamos, New +Mexico. This group's development of psychokinesis, and psychotronics +(a term used to denote psychic warfare techniques) represents a danger +of eschatological proportions. "These techniques have been available, +but controlled, throughout history. Now, other entities are forcing +the issue," said Smith. + +During the course of our first conversation, Smith was unable to +provide much proof of his claims. He reported that his governmental +sources "hinted at" an eschatological emergency. To prove the evil +intent of the entities involved, he referred to reports of human +mutilations in the Amazon which have been officially attribbuted to +drug dealers, but according to his sources, were committed by these +evil entities. When I asked why the CIA was interested in eschatology, +he replied that the ramifications of the eschaton event represented a +serious threat to national security, and thus, fell into the parview +of the intelligence agencies. + +Smith also revealed that the eschatological issues he raised related +directly to the Biblical prophecies of the book of Revelations. + +I thanked Mr. Smith for the call, and invited him to keep me abreast +of future developments. With the addition of demons, angels, "black +magic," psychotronic technology, and assorted spooks working at cross +purposes, my already strained credulity was pushed a bit further. + + +The Aviary +---------- + +Dan proceeded to call me regularly. Each call provided tantalizing +snippets of information -- some simply incredible at first hearing, +but with confirmation on some of the data coming in from disparate +sources all across the country. Naturally, my curiosity centered +around the identities and activities of the Aviary. I suspect that +many believe the Bird People to be cogs in a giant conspiracy to +manage the public's perception of UFOs. Not necessarily so, according +to Smith. Far from being a well-funded, omnipotent secret society of +the guardians of UFO data, the Aviary is nothing more than an ad hoc +group of highly-placed "UFO buffs." + +Initially, the factor that seemed most important was that Pelican was +being so forthcoming -- presumably with the knowledge and consent of +his superiors at CIA. This in itself forced me to conclude that there +are two possible motives for all this apparent glasnost: + +1. There is indeed an eschatological emergency as described by Dan +Smith, i.e. fulfillment of biblical prophesy with attendent +catastrophes; and/or + +2. There is a new twist to the ol' UFO debunking game, capitalizing on +new-age mysticism and millennial "apocophilia." + +Frankly, I lean towards the second explanation. After all, Smith +himself described the Aviary as "amplifying people's own +misconceptions about the paranormal. It does this by helping to +overinflate individual pieces of the puzzle so that particular +investigators get pushed further into their own blind alleys." I've +personally been occupied by this ongoing saga for many months -- a +"blind alley?" I wish I knew, but in either case, Pelican's +involvement in this affair raises the ante significantly. + +Has something changed? Could we really be facing biblical "End Times?" +As I mentioned previously, I would have laughed-off such suggestions a +few months ago. However, Smith's references to "out of control" +psychotronic research proved to be more substantive than I first +realized. + +The Aviary is believed to be comprised of: +------------------------------------------ + +Bruce Maccabee (Seagull) - Well-known Naval photograhic expert who +verified the authenticity of the Gulf Breeze photos, a MUFON +consultant and member of the Board of Directors of the Fund for UFO +Research. + +Hal Puthoff, PhD. (Owl) - Physicist with the Institute for Advanced +Research in Austin, Texas who specializes in Zero-Point Energy, a +quantum phenomenon that could provide "free energy." Puthoff was once +involved in remote-viewing experiments at the Stanford Research +Institute. + +Dale Graff (Raven) - Performed contract oversight for the DIA at +Wright Patterson AFB. Most recently, Graff was the chief of the DIA's +Defense Technology/Special department. Rumored to be an abductee, and +involved in "black magic" and psychotronic programs at Los Alamos, but +fired recently by DIA. Smith says that Graff is the head of the +"military" UFO working group at Los Alamos. + +Jack Vorona (bird name unknown) - Vorona is apparently the most covert +of all the Birds. He is believed to have been a liason between Capitol +Hill and Los Alamos. Was once involved in Project Sleeping Beauty, an +attempt to disable enemy troops using electromagnetic radiation. +Vorona has recently "vanished," and his present whereabouts are +unknown. + +Richard Doty (Falcon) - Former AFOSI agent. Directly involved in the +Bennewitz affair, and the attempt to funnel UFO information (or +disinformation) concerning UFO briefing documents for the President to +Linda Moulton Howe. Allegedly responsible for leaking bogus UFO +reports while in AFOSI at Kirtland AFB. Currently employed by the New +Mexico state police stationed in Dulce, New Mexico. + +Christopher "Kit" Green MD, PhD. (Bluejay) - Pelican's predecessor at +the "Wierd Desk" at CIA. According to Smith, Green at one time had +autopsy reports and photos of a UFO that crashed in a foreign country. +Dr. Green is currently the chief of the Biomedical Sciences Dept. for +General Motors. The CIA awarded him the National Intelligence Medal +for his work on a classified project during the period 1979 to 1983. + +Robert Collins (Condor) - Former Captain, USAF. Involved in the +Bennewitz affair, and probably participated in the scheme (with +Richard Doty) to release UFO information/ disinformation to Linda +Moulton Howe at Kirtland AFB. + +Ernie Kellerstraus (Hawk) - While working at Wright Patterson AFB in +the '70s, he along with Bob Collins and Dale Graff are said to have +supplied information to William Moore. Kellerstraus is rumored to have +lived with an alien for a while (?), and is probably the source for +the story concerning the aliens' preference for "strawberry ice +cream". + +Scott Jones (Chickadee) - Well-connected, well-funded (by Laurence +Rockefeller) head of the Human Potential Foundation. Former aid to +Sen. Claiborne Pell, who has had a long-standing interest in UFOs and +the paranormal. Jones is a MUFON Consultant with numerous highly +placed government sources who consistently finds "no interest by +government in UFOs." + +Bill Moore - (bird name unknown) This former Minnesota school teacher +may have initiated a new regime in regards to ufology by the +publication of "The Roswell Incident." This in itself may have been +the single event that began the stripping away of decades of +well-guarded UFO secrecy. His involvement in the Aviary seems to be +either one of active coordination of the other Birds, or simply as a +dupe, such as in the Bennewitz affair. + +John Alexander (Penquin) - Former colonel in Army Intelligence +(INSCOM). Rumored to be involved in the Army's UFO research. Member of +the board of directors of Psi Tech. Currently, head of "non-lethal" +weapons program (see "Secret Conference" article) at Los Alamos. Said +to be briefing Vice President Gore on the UFO phenomenon and psi +projects. + +"Pelican," PhD - Pelican is a physicist with the CIA's Directorate of +Science and Technology, who mans the "Wierd Desk" (UFOs, etc) at CIA. + +--- + +Apparently, it is Pelican who provided the bulk of the information +that Smith tirelessly passed on. Smith says that Pelican has received +some heat from his superiors for becoming so visible due to the AIR #1 +report on Bruce Maccabee's relationship to the CIA. + +Psi-Tech +-------- + +Psi-Tech is a private company that claims to provide its clients +remote viewing services. Remote viewing is the act of psychically +perceiving places or events at a distance. These techniques were +learned during his stint with the US Army's Intelligence and Security +Command (INSCOM), according to Major Ed Dames (ret.) , president of +Psi-Tech, who describes his operation thusly (taken from a Psi-Tech +brochure): + +---- + +PSI TECH, Inc. was founded in 1989 to perform specialized proprietary +studies for science and industry on a contract basis. + +PSI TECH consists of a select, technically qualified group of +professional analysts who provide a unique data collection capability +not available anywhere else in the world. We are a team of highly +trained Remote Viewing specialists. + +Remote Viewing has been validated by governmental and private +scientific groups over the last two decades. Briefly stated, a remote +viewer is able to locate and accurately describe things and events +distant in time and space. + +PSI TECH has developed applied remote viewing into a powerful +investigative tool. Our disciplined team of experts combines more +than forty man-years of applied remote viewing experience. + +The rigorous target acquisition, data collection, and analytic +protocols that we employ guarantee products and solutions of high +value to PSI TECH customers. + +PSI TECH can rapidly provide you with reliable information that simply +may not be available via any other means! + +PSI-TECH currently employs nine highly experienced remote viewers. The +company also utilizes Ingo Swann as a subcontractor. Mr. Swann is +internationally recognized as this country's premier natural psychic. +He discovered and developed the proprietary methods now used by our +company to train and conduct technical remote viewing. + +PSI-TECH has appointed two outside directors from science and +industry. Additionally. we have at our disposal an adjunct Technical +Analysis Team consisting of a multidisciplinary group of distinguished +scientists, engineers, and medical doctors from national labs, major +corporations and universities. These individuals provide analytical +support to PSI-TECH technical intelligence collection projects as +required. + +PSI-TECH training and operations performance standards are exacting. +we require military precision on the part of our remote viewers. Each +viewer works independently and does not collaborate or compare data +with other viewers. The training program employed to install those +unique skills which enable the production of calibrated, consistent +and accurate results is rigorous. + +While at work a viewer's mind-body state could he generally +characterized as one of high attention. To an unwitting observer a +PSI-TECH viewer could easily be mistaken for someone engaged in an +attempt to solve a difficult math or science problem. Conscious focus +shifts between the tasks of directing the trained unconscious in a +systematic exploration of the assigned target, breaking out (decoding) +the target-associated gestalt patterns of information, then rendering +the data as detailed words and sketches, (or models if necessary). +Meticulous attention to technical remote viewing structure is required +not only to correctly acquire the target and maintain lock-on but +additionally to disallow subconscious analysis and/or imagination from +interfering with the unconsciously acquired signal. + +---- + +Dames, a retired major in US Army Intelligence, is apparently "being +all that he can be," bringing the skills he learned while in the Army +to the marketplace. He claims that Psi-Tech has performed these +projects to date: Enigma Penetration: The Tunguska Event; Enigma +Penetration: Soviet Phobos II Space Craft Imaged Anomaly; Projected +Technologies: Advanced Deep Space Propulsion Systems; Clandestine +Iraqi Biological Weapons Facilities (Gratis in support of the United +Nations CBW Inspection Team); A Relook of the KAL Flight 007 Shoot- +down; Atmospheric Ozone Depletion - Projected Consequences and +Remedial Technologies; and the Saint-Exupery Crash Site. + +I'm sure we'd all like to find out what Psi Tech's RVing has +discovered on these events, however, Dames regrets to inform us that +this is "proprietary" information gleaned under contract. This would +be interesting enough on its own, but Dames claims that fully 60% of +his company's time is spent RVing (remote viewing) UFOs! + +Here are a few of Mr. Dames statements regarding UFOs (from a phone +conversation with Dan Smith): + +---- + +RV's of many UFO events are blocked by external agency, (cosmic +censorship?). + +UFO type viewing encounters two types of entities: aliens and angels. +Aliens are more physical with quasi-physical type craft. They are in +trouble and need our resources, which they take, and if humans are +involved they recieve mental impressions to confuse what is really +going on. The angels are policing these alien activities. The angels +technology is more concerned with the mental and transcendental or +metaphysical domains. + +Ed uses the terms ground zero or ground truth to refer to a spot in SW +US where much of their work is done. The angels led them to this spot, +indicating that it would be a good place for contacting aliens, about +10 years ago. Various forms of contact then occurred. + +Dames discussed eschatological implications at some length. His group +gets indications of unavoidable bad stuff in the next couple of +decades. Deleterious climate changes, storms adversely effecting +agriculture. He also foresees a quasi-public contact with UFOs near +the ground zero site, within one and a half years (August, 1993). It +would be an ongoing contact, of a prophetic sort with both Angels and +Aliens involved. His review committee will work out possible +coverage. He is not so concerned about a global spiritual emergency, +as about the physical (meteorological?) emergencies. + +---- + +So there you have it... UFOs plus psychic adepts equals End of the +World. + +Of course, one could dismiss Dames as a bunko artist selling his +$6,000-$8,000 a week services to an affluent but gullible clientele. +But before dismissing Dames' claims, readers should be aware of a few +other pertinent facts. On the Psi-Tech board of directors are two +fairly high-level players; General Albert Stubblebine (US Army +Intelligence, ret.), and Colonel John Alexander (ret.) both formerly +of the US Army's Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM). + +Stubblebine, former commander of INSCOM, gave a presentation at the +International Symposium on UFO Research (sponsored by the +International Association for New Science, Denver CO, May 22-25, 1992) +on the subject of "Remote Viewing as a Research Tool." In this +presentation, Stubblebine described remote viewing: + +"It is independent of time, OK? So I can go past, I can go present, I +can go future. It is independent of locations, so I can go anywhere on +this earth. I can go into any closet, I can go into any mind, I can +access that information at any location that I choose." + +On the subject of RVing UFOs, Stubblebine said: + +"As far as UFOs are concerned, they can be accessed, they can be +tracked, we have looked at the propulsion system for them, that's not +a hard job, you can track them back to where they come from, whether +they come from a place here on this planet or whether they come from a +place on another planet, they are trackable and you can take a look +inside as well as outside, so again, it is a tool that is available to +be used for the UFO research and I guess, I guess that's the reason +that I am standing on this platform in spite of my misgivings and +feeling a little bit nervous like a tree in a Lassie movie." + +Stubblebine also claimed that his remote viewing of the planet Mars +had revealed structures and machines operating both on and below the +Martian surface. + +Many suspect that John Alexander is the "colonel" referred to in +Howard Blum's recent book, "Out There". In this book, Blum described a +group of remote viewers in the Pentagon who frequently encountered +UFOs in their psychic "sorties" to locate Soviet submarines. Alexander +seems to have an extremely eclectic background -- he received a PhD. +in Thanatology (the study of death and near-death experiences) from +Georgetown University under the tutelage of the celebrated Dr. +Elisabeth Kubler-Ross. Apparently, Alexander is a "mind-control" +junkie, having studied everything from Silva Mind Control, to a stint +in a Buddhist monastery. + +When the National Research Council issued its findings that there was +no evidence of paranormal phenomena, Alexander wrote a critique of the +report that was both passionate and eloquent. In this rebuttal, he +compared the report's apparent a priori conclusions to the Condon +Commission's report on UFOs. Interestingly, Alexander is widely +believed to have been instrumental in the Army's UFO Intelligence +activities, and is rumored to have assisted in the investigation of +the Cash/Landrum UFO-injury case. + +In addition to his Psi-Tech work, Alexander currently heads a research +project at Los Alamos, New Mexico, focused on "non-lethal" military +technology. "Non- lethal" in the conventional parlance refers to +methods of eroding an enemy's war-making capabilities without the +excessive death and destruction that could possibly harden an enemy's +resolve to fight, or cause a moral revulsion in our own population +that could weaken political resolve to continue a war until U.S. +military objectives could be achieved. Wiping-out enemy radars and +communication electronics through powerful electromagnetic pulses +(EMP) is one type of non-lethal weapon, spraying roads and railroad +tracks with a super-slippery lubricant, thereby paralyzing +transportation, is another. + +Alexander has been mentioned almost synonomously with non-lethal +weapons technology in many mainstream news reports, including a +lengthy piece in the Wall Street Journal. He is also rumored to be a +candidate for an Undersecretary of Defense appointment in the Clinton +administration. + +Surprisingly, Army Intelligence RV operations has become married, +literally, with some prominent figures in UFO abductions research. +Albert Stubblebine is now married to Dr. Rima Laibow, whose scholarly +paper on the abduction phenomenon was the first (as far as I know) to +address the issue in the mental-health community. John Alexander is +now married to the former Victoria Lacas, Dr. Laibow's close +associate. + +This list of strange bedfellows gets even stranger when you add the +name of CSETI founder and head honcho, Steven Greer, M.D., into the +mix. As it turns out, Greer, whose modus operandi incorporates shining +blinking lights and laser beams at UFOs in the hopes of establishing +communications with the ufonauts, was trained in remote viewing by Ed +Dames. In fact, it was Dr. Greer who introduced Stubblebine at the +Denver symposium. + +So, what we have so far is that several former high-ranking military +personnel (Stubblebine, Alexander,and Dames) who were involved in +"psychic" research while in Army Intelligence, and who are now +actively involved in the UFO research community. Further, Dames has +staked his company's professional reputation on the prediction that an +overt contact with aliens will occur in the Four Corners area by +August of 1993. Naturally, August came and went without incident. + +One of ufology's more cogent analysts, who is convinced of the reality +of remote viewing based on his own personal search, told me that +Dames' activities had resulted in the successful discrediting of both +UFOs and remote viewing. Was this the plan all along or is Dames just +a charlatan? + +"Black" Projects +---------------- + +Dan Smith explained that the reason that so much information was being +disseminated was due to the eschatological implications of the +psychotronic research underway at covert government research +facilities. + +It would seem unlikely that this type of technology is currently +feasible. After all, if the government had access to psychotronic +weapons, why didn't they induce Saddam Hussein to stroll naked through +the streets of Baghdad, asking his subjects to admire his new clothes; +or simply cause a major blood vessel in his brain to burst? + +But Smith sincerely believes that such technologies are being +developed, specifically under the guise of "non-lethal" weapons +research, such as that headed by John Alexander. Smith says, +point-blank, that this technology is nothing less than "black magic." + +Supposedly, this business is taken so seriously at upper echelons that +the Secret Service retrieved all of the bloody bandages discarded +after Ronald Reagan was wounded in an assassination attempt, lest the +president's blood be used in a "black magic" ritual that could +influence his behavior. I suppose this story is somewhat more credible +after the revelations concerning the Reagan's "court astrologer." + +According to Dan Smith, use of these psychotronic techniques entail a +perilous threat to democracy -- potentially, a type of instantaneous +mass mind control to program a pesky proletariat -- and worse. + +These claims should be taken into context of published papers on the +ability to induce auditory sensations through microwave bombardment at +certain frequencies. In Alexander's book, "The Warrior's Edge" (with +Morris and Grollier), he states matter of factly that remote viewing +and psychokinesis are not only real, but have predictable, practical +applications. Indeed, the focus of the book is how to utilize mind +control techniques to achieve an advantage over one's adversaries. + +There's absolutely no telling what Cold War ethics combined with +unlimited budgets and zero accountability could have wrought in terms +of Frankensteinian scenarios. To ellucidate this point, I present this +extract from a paper by Ray Boeche, a Lincoln, Nebraska, theologian +and Fortean researcher. + +---- + + "To all interested researchers: + + +The following is an edited version of material given to me in late +1991 - early 1992, by two scientists who claim to be working in +weapons research and development for the Department of Defense. + +I am not in a position to comment on the truthfulness or accuracy of +the information. The two men who have spoken to me do, in fact, exist, +and for all intents and purposes seem to be who and what they claim. +The very nature of the claims makes verification difficult, if not +impossible. + +Divulging this information was the result of a moral dilemma, when +these two individuals, both Christians, became alarmed at the course +their research efforts into psychotronic weapons was taking under the +direction of their (unnamed) superiors. They described an obsessive +effort to contact and attempt to control what they referred to as +"non-human intelligences" (NHI), and to harness these NHI for military +and intelligence uses. + +The efforts had progressed well past attempts at practical +applications of David Bohm's theories, and had grown to encompass the +use of, according to their statements, "satanic rituals / ritual magic +along the lines of that espoused by Aleister Crowley, including human +sacrifices." + +These gentlemen stated their concerns that, even when they were +apparently able to harness or channel these forces or abilities for +"good" uses, the force would "turn," and ultimately all of those +subjects involved suffered varying degrees of negative effects from +contact with these forces. They are convinced that what is being +tapped into in all instances is evil, and that this research should +cease. + +Contact has continued on a limited basis, with no new information of +significance forthcoming." + +After speculation as to the physics of the paranormal, Boeche sums up +the startling details he received: + +Information given, but not allowed to note during meeting: Discussion +of individuals killed during psychotronic weapons experiments. + +1. Male, white, 25-30 yrs., allegedly death by remotely induced +cardiac arrest. + +2. Female, white, 20-25 yr., allegedly death by remotely transmitting +and creating head trauma equivalent to crushing of right anterior +portion of the skull. + +3. Male, white, 30-40 yrs., allegedly death by remotely controlled +suffocation. + +Setting was in a laboratory environment. Alleged victims were wired +for EEG & EKG, seated in reclining chair, somewhat similar to +dentist's chair. + +In efforts to establish contact with non-human intelligences, every +avenue is being explored. Satanic rituals involving human sacrifice +have been performed. Much study is/has been given to writings of +Crowley. + +Bentwaters experiment was the projection of an actual, physical three- +dimensional object, which could and did interact with its environment, +but was create and controlled by individuals involved in this +research. + +No project names were given because the sources were too concerned +that a leak would be traced back to them." + +---- + +Mr. Boeche used the term "scripted" (i.e. slow enough to allow for +copious note-taking, except when he was asked to cease writing during +the descriptions of the psychotronically induced deaths) to describe +the presentation delivered by the two putative DoD scientists. In my +communications with Mr. Boeche, he was at a loss to explain why the +two DoD scientists were still working on projects they found to be +morally repugnant, and if they really wanted to blow the whistle on +this activity, why did they reveal it to an obscure ufologist and not +the New York Times or "Nightline." I have to agree with Boeche's +assessment that the story is probably disinformation for some unknown +purpose. + +The only question here is -- what could the motivation be? + +The story related by Ray Boeche is supported by Dan Smith's thesis, +i.e. humans are messing with forces that are getting out of control, +perhaps with disastrous consequences. According to Smith, these +"sorcerer's apprentices" are going at it hot and heavy at government +psychotronics labs in or near Los Alamos, New Mexico. + +It has been rumored that there have already been several high-level +meetings between those who are concerned about secret psi/UFO programs +and representatives of the Clinton administration. According to one +rumor, Pelican met with Jack Gibbons, the White House Science Advisor. +Gibbons is reported to have responded that "the President shouldn't +touch this topic with a 10-foot pole." Instead, meetings concerning +these "black" psi/UFO projects have been channeled through the +Vice-President's office under the cover story of "alternate energy +sources." There have also been meetings with Senate Intelligence +Committee Chief of Staff, Dick DiAmato, who is said to be interested +in the ongoing strangeness at Area 51. + +Variations on this rumor have John Alexander as the contact with the +Clinton administration. This makes a certain amount of sense, in that +Alexander knows Al Gore from his days as a Senator, when he taught +several Congressmen, including Gore, some basic Neuro-Linguistic +Programming techniques. + +Interestingly, the subject of "Presidential Haircuts" may be connected +to this affair. It has been independently reported to me that Mr. +Clinton had another delay on the tarmac in Los Alamos, after his tour +of high-tech research facilities in the area. This was just days +before the LAX / Christophe incident. The inference from this is that +either the President's hair must grow very fast, or else highly secure +meetings are occuring on airport runways (presumably Air Force 1 is +bug-free). + +A Conversation with Pelican +--------------------------- + +In order to give Pelican an opportunity to confirm or deny the +eschatological scenario presented by Dan Smith, I gave him a call. +Readers who expect dramatic revelations will be disappointed, although +Pelican did provide some interesting tidbits. + +First, he sounded much younger than I expected. Second, he had a very +sharp sense of humor (I had to laugh out loud several times during the +course of our conversation). I limited my questions to the subjects of +eschatology and the Aviary. His answers seemed forthright -- he didn't +seem stressed to avoid any particular topic, and I found him to be +quite convincing. + +My first question dealt with with Dan's statements concerning +dangerous "black" programs that were out of control. Curiously, +Pelican responded that "Dan isn't cleared for that kind of +information" -- not exactly a repudiation of Dan's story. + +Pelican did admit that he talks to Dan frequently -- about physics. +When I told him that Dan had been claiming to be a "conduit" for +semi-official information from him, Pelican rather ambiguously stated, +"He may very well be doing that... I talk to him once in a while and +we share information. I really don't tell him anything that's +classified or work-related... he certainly isn't functioning in the +role of a conduit for me." + +I quoted Dan Smith's statement to the effect that "the best place to +find fellow eschatologists was in the intelligence agencies," to which +Pelican responded "he didn't find any here" at CIA. + +I inquired about the status of psychotronic weapons research. Pelican +was dismissive of the entire subject, calling it "modern-day +shamanism." He also stated that psychotronics is only taken seriously +in countries like Russia and China that do not have the rigorous +peer-reviewed scientific establishment such as in the U.S. + +I raised the subject of Psi Tech, and Ed Dames' risking his company's +reputation on his prediction of an overt alien contact in the Chaco +Canyon area by the end of August '93. "What reputation? It's a joke... +the only paying customer Psi Tech has ever had was Dan Smith himself, +who gave Psi Tech $3,000 to remote view a crop circle being made," +Pelican responded. I asked about the high-level personnel on Psi +Tech's board of directors like Stubblebine and Alexander. Pelican was +dismissive of Stubblebine, recounting that Stubblebine's nick-name was +"General Spoonbender," due to his belief in psychic phenomena. Pelican +holds Alexander in considerably higher regard, however, stating, "he's +a friend of mine." + +Next, I asked about the Aviary. According to Pelican, the Aviary is +nothing more than the product of the somewhat-deranged mind of +"Falcon," retired Air Force Captain Robert Collins, who worked in +Foreign Technology Assessment in regards to missile technology -- not +AFOSI as is widely believed. Pelican said that Collins was discharged +from the Air Force after breaching the security perimeter at the +Manzano nuclear weapons storage facility at Kirtland AFB. + +When taken into custody by base security, Collins told them he was +there "to meet the President." He was discharged shortly thereafter +(Dan says that this incident was orchestrated by Bill Moore, with the +hapless Collins left twisting in the wind). + +Soon after his discharge, Collins began mailing letters "...with my +real name and address on the outside, and my codename on the inside," +said Pelican, who considered these mailings such a hoot that he posted +them on his office wall for the entertainment of his CIA colleagues. + +All in all, an interesting conversation, but I was (as the reader +undoubtedly is now) more confused than ever. + +Of course, nobody is shocked any more by government denials that turn +out to be less than truthful, but as I said before, Pelican was very +convincing. He reiterated Dan Smith's proviso that I keep his name +confidential -- not to keep him from being deluged by UFO kooks, but +rather, so he wouldn't receive unwanted attention from foreign agents +-- a condition that I'll honor, even though Pelican's real name is +already well known to researchers following this story. + +Alien Eschatology +----------------- + +Against this flurry of phone calls, rumors, denials, and +confirmations, HUFON's own abduction research has uncovered an +eschatological angle. It seems even the abductors are getting on the +eschatology band-wagon with abductees reportedly meeting (or at least +perceiving) God, Jesus, dead relatives, and the like, often with dire +warnings concerning "the end of the world." + +Senior HUFON abductions investigator Dale Musser does not take these +accounts at face value, nor does he reject them outright. Musser had +this to say about "spiritual" aspects of the abduction phenomenon: + + "This theory is one held by a number of abductees. Most of these + abductees have been told by the abductors that the aliens have the + right (implication of a divine nature) to do the things they are + doing to the abductees. That they are here to save the earth (exact + means of doing this vary from subject to subject) and to help us. + Usually the abductee is told they were "chosen" and are made to + feel important because of this selection. Often they are told that + at a later date they will 'know what to do,' or they will + "understand when the time is right." The true nature of the beings + themselves is never explained, but left to the individual to + determine. Many believe them to possibly be angels, or other + entities, in service to a deity. There does not seem to be any + clearly defined message, nor are the messages consistent from one + abductee to another. + + "There are several problems with this theory from an investigative + standpoint. First there is even less proof for their statements + than for the abduction itself. The vagueness of the messages + certainly does not relate to trying to convince us of their + concern about the issues. Second, the means and methods of + relaying the messages have the lowest probability of achieving + results. Third, the messages given are usually interpreted after + an event has occurred rather then before, therefore, one never + knows for sure if that's what was truly intended. Most events + predicted, or messages conveyed which are to be understood later, + almost never happen, and those that do are subject to question. + Fourth, the religious significance of the abductors is usually + relevant to the belief system of the abductee. It is not universal + to all abductees. + + "It would appear the abductors 'access' the belief system of the + abductee and play back a scenario that will be acceptable to the + abductees and make them more cooperative. If the individual is + Judeo-Christian, the aliens and their purposes will appear to fit + within that system. If the subject is a Buddhist, the scenario will + be within that belief system. However this is not always true. In + one case, an abductee (who was Christian) was presented with a + totally pagan and mythical belief scenario. A mistake, or a test? + Who knows? + + "What we do know is that there does not appear to be any + consistency to information in these events other than making the + individual believe the abductors are here on some sort of divine + mission. It is interesting to note that atheists seldom have + encounters where they are presented with religious scenarios. Often + they are presented with the idea the aliens are here to help us + prevent the same fate which supposedly befell their own world. It + is hard to believe there is any truth to these spiritual + connections and beliefs when so many differing ones are presented, + some in conflict with the other. The conclusion one could draw + from the data presented is "whatever works, they will use." + +--- + +So, the abducting entities can't seem to keep their stories straight. +One would expect at least consistency from advanced alien beings, +heavenly angels or demons from hell -- whatever they may be. + +Novelist Whitley Strieber, whose abduction experiences are described +vividly in his non-fiction books, "Communion" and "Transformation" +recounted that when he asked the entities what they were up to, they +responded "We recycle souls." He too was shown "lessons" concerning a +catastrophe affecting the earth. + +Strieber, who has become "alienated" from organized ufology due to his +refusal to categorize the entities he encountered as extraterrestrial +aliens, can only characterize the phenomenon as "not a dream, not a +hallucination, and not real - something else." + +Which brings me back to the subject at hand: what is going on? + +In a word, confusion. There seems to be no correlation between the +perceived abduction events and Dan Smith's eschatological emergency +caused by the practice of "black magic." Smith does seem to be hedging +his bets at times. He has told me that the eschaton event could be a +"benign eschaton," consisting of a universal and positive shift in +human behavior due to Revealed Truth. I could go for that... + +Just as occurred in the waning days of the year 999, when +millennialism swept through Europe causing a virtual societal +breakdown, today there is a growing millennialist movement where many +of the faithful foresee a period of catastrophic "Earth changes," and +Armageddon, the fulfillment of biblical prophesy. + +Fundamentalist Christians eagerly await this disaster because it will +usher in a thousand-year kingdom of Jesus on Earth. + +New-Age channelers are also getting into the act with messages from +angels/ avatars/aliens warning of imminent "Earth changes" along with +warnings against gun control, Zionism, the "New World Order," and +other right-wing paranoid delusions. + +When considering these claims, one would be remiss in not pointing out +the upsurge in reports of Blessed Virgin Mary (BVM) sightings, and +other paranormal events of religious significance to the experiencers. +As with the many New Age channeled messages, many of the reported +Marion locutions warn of "Earth changes" and the "End Times." Starting +in 1981, the most spectacular and long-lasting BVM visitation (with +scads of witnesses to the "miracles") occurred in Medjugorje, on the +Adriatic coast of Bosnia Herzegovinia, now one of the most horrific +hell-holes on the planet. So much for the positive spiritual effects +one might expect from from such beatific locutions. Maybe things just +aren't what they seem. + +Anyone familiar with UFO-abduction accounts is forced to conclude that +weird things are happening or at least being perceived as happening by +large numbers of otherwise sane, functional peopIe. Some of these +abductions reports are so bizarre, and with so many similarities to +BVM encounters, that many thoughtful researchers have abandoned the +extraterrestrial hypothesis in favor of the metaphysical or +interdimensional hypothesis. + +Dr. Jacques Vallee has even incorporated the high strangeness of these +events into his comprehensive catalogue of close encounters under the +rubric of "reality transformation." + +As author/futurist Arthur C. Clark is quoted as saying, any +sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic. +David Mayo took this concept a step further when he stated that if +advanced technology appears to be magic, then technology an order of +magnitude beyond that could have the appearance of nonsense to our +primitive simian brains. + +But if there really is such a thing as "black magic," and government +scientists are experimenting with it, I suspect that they could be +blindly running the same risks in dealing with such unknown forces as +the 19th-century scientists who thought nothing of casually handling +radium and other radioactive materials. + +With the clock inexorably ticking off the seconds until midnight, +December 31, 1999 (a date that seems to have some special significance +to the millennialists) eschatological fervor will undoubtedly +increase. Meanwhile, whoever or whatever is behind the UFO phenomenon +is apparently doing everything possible to keep the true nature of +this mystery from being understood. + +But rather than being an indicator of biblical "End Times" or "Earth +changes," the barrage of UFO reports, BVM sightings, abduction +accounts, channeled messages, religious hysteria, and inside poop from +the CIA are probably nothing more than further attempts to distort the +signal with more noise. + +---- + +Many thanks to Robert Durant, Dale Musser, Ray Boeche, George Hansen, +Ron Madeley and of course, Dan Smith for their assistance on this +story. + +------------------------------------------------------------------------ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2905.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2905.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b7f944d1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2905.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,1401 @@ +SUBJECT: ANOTHER BILL ENGLISH INTERVIEW FILE: UFO2905 + + + + +Sat 12 Sep 92 1:35 +By: John Powell +To: All +Re: Bill English Interview +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +[I've removed most of the "uh's", "um's", etc.; most of the +extraneous stuff. I've included "..." to indicate when the speaker was +interrupted and "--" to indicate when the speaker was rambling or when the +speaker was briefly, and unimportantly, interrupted. The interviewer is RB +and Bill English is BE. I take full responsibility for typographical and +spelling errors. I take absolutely no responsibility for content and +context errors.] +--------------------------------------------------------------------- +INTERVIEW WITH BILL ENGLISH: 6/28/91 +85 KOA-Denver, Colorado +Interviewer: Rick Barbour + +RB: My guest this hour is a guy by the name of Bill English and Bill is + a Colorado boy although he's out of town right now. And he's got a + story to tell that's quite something. Good morning Bill. + +BE: Good morning Rick. How are you? + +RB: I'm all right, thanks. Why don't you kind of start this story by + how you came to be the fugitive. + +BE: Well, in 1977 while working for the United States government at a + place called RAF Chicksands in England, which is a security services + command base, I was a data analyst and I was asked to analyze a + document which came across my desk and material in the document was + pretty astounding. + +RB: What was in the document? + +BE: Well, the document was entitled Grudge Blue Book Report Number 13. + +RB: Okay, now, Blue Book, if everybody remembers, was the Air Force + study of UFO sightings, right? + +BE: Right. It was Book Number 13 was also the book that they claimed + was never published. + +RB: Uh huh, that was the last in the series? + +BE: No, there was -- there were thirteen books but they were numbered + one through twelve and they skipped thirteen and went directly to + number fourteen. + +RB: Now everybody would say where's thirteen? + +BE: Uh, exactly. Well, the government tried to cover it up by saying + that they never printed the book number thirteen because of + superstition. + +RB: Superstition? + +BE: Superstition. Number thirteen being unlucky. + +RB: Oh, I see. Okay. All right. + +BE: And uh, I've uh... + +RB: Interesting that the Pentagon is superstitious. I had no idea. + +BE: Well, it's never been my experience before, but that was the story + they were telling everybody. But when I analyzed the document, what + it was, was a compilation of everything the government had with + regards to uh, unidentified flying objects. + +RB: Now, you mean physical evidence? + +BE: Physical evidence to include aliens. + +RB: Uh, this now, the Blue Book Project lasted from when to when? + +BE: Uh, I'm not sure exactly what the exact dates are at this point. + +RB: Well, it started what, in the late 50's or late -- no, late 40's I + guess, wasn't it? + +BE: Late 40's exactly. Actually it started before that with Project + Grudge. + +RB: Huh? Project Grudge? + +BE: Right. Which was a -- the initial investigation into reports of + what they termed at that time as Foo Fighters, which many of the + World War II pilots were reporting. + +RB: They were called 'what' fighters? + +BE: Foo. + +RB: How do you spell that? + +BE: F-O-O. + +RB: Foo? + +BE: Foo. + +RB: Foo. Was that an acronym for something? + +BE: Uh, no, that was just the name they tagged them with, the pilots + did. They were termed Foo Fighters and they started investigating + them with Project Grudge and then after the war years the Project + Grudge was redesignated Project Blue Book. + +RB: Okay. Of course at this time the Army Air Corps become the Air + Force. + +BE: Right. + +RB: All right. And so now the Air Force started this Project Blue Book. + Now, it was also because of right after the war -- late forties + during the atomic bomb project and subsequent to the testing area, + or era, that there was supposed to be a rash of sightings in that -- + the late forties or early fifties, right? + +BE: Exactly, and those sightings -- the very first recorded sighting, + official recorded sighting, took place at Mt. Rainier, Washington. + I'm sorry, Mt. Rainier, Maryland. And -- + +RB: Mt. Rainier, Maryland? + +BE: Right. And after that there were several dozens of sightings. + Washington at one point in the mid-fifties was buzzed by UFO's -- + Washington, D.C. -- the Capital Building. + +RB: Was buzzed by a UFO? + +BE: UFO's. -- + +RB: By several? + +BE: Several. + +RB: And this is when? + +BE: The mid-fifties, I believe it was. + +RB: Okay. Now was this widely seen and reported? + +BE: Well, it was widely seen and it was reported somewhat until it was + suddenly stopped by executive order. And -- + +RB: Well, the mid-fifties I would have been -- Ike? + +BE: I believe so, right. + +RB: So, Ike said no publicity. Is that right? + +BE: Right. + +RB: Of course by then it'd be a little late wouldn't it? It's like + letting -- letting -- closing the gate after the horse has split. + +BE: Well, you've got to remember that back in those times the government + could do no wrong and whenever something was requested for the good + of the security of the nation, most everybody kept their mouth shut. + +RB: I see. Okay, so this was perceived as the good of the nation by not + reporting what everybody saw. + +BE: Right. They didn't want to cause widespread panic. + +RB: Uh, well, I thought word of mouth is sort of the way panic works, if + some -- if everybody in downtown D.C. had seen it, by then they'd + know in Baltimore an hour later. + +BE: Well, I think they were operating under the premise that if it wound + up in newspapers and that kind of thing, then there really would be + a problem. + +RB: Were there any photographs? + +BE: There were several dozen. + +RB: Oh really? + +BE: Uh, and uh, at one point, the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization + right here in Tucson, Arizona had those photographs, but with the + demise of Jim and Cora (Lorenzen), then the founders of APRO, the + records disappeared for several years until they were recovered + recently by the International Center for UFO Studies in Scottsdale, + Arizona. + +RB: Okay, now all of this information was sort of, shall we say + discouraged, if not quashed -- + +BE: Right. + +RB: Uh, this was in the mid-fifties. Now Project Blue Book was well on + its way by this time. + +BE: By this time it was and way in through the years we've discovered + that Project Blue Book turned out to be an eyewash program for the + public. Over 90% of the recorded sightings that they reported on, + and this does not include the ones that they did not report on, were + classified as explainable. But in point of fact, there was a higher + percentage that were not -- was not explainable, but they never + released these reports. + +RB: All right, now, you -- let's go back to what happened to you, you + came across this number thirteen book. + +BE: Well, it's Blue Book report number thirteen. + +RB: Okay. Now what was in it that was so interesting? I mean, physical + evidence of alien machines and alien bodies, is that part of -- + +BE: Well, there were several -- several dozens of photographs and among + those photographs they had photographs of recovered vehicles or + discs. They had photographs of autopsy reports of aliens -- + +RB: Now was this -- was this a copy of that report or was this the + report? + +BE: Well, it was an annotated version of a report that had been + published in the early 70's, around 1972. And I viewed the document + in 1977 at RAF Chicksands. And between '72 and '77 they had added + several more pages, in fact the report itself was about six hundred + pages long. There were, well photographs of autopsies on aliens, + there were reports of human mutilations. + +RB: Human mutilations? + +BE: Human mutilations. + +RB: Now, how did that get in there and how does that fit into anything? + +BE: Well, it was a -- it was a compilation of everything that they knew + at that time concerning UFOs. And they had everything in there. + And I personally believe that the designation, Grudge Blue Book 13, + was a mistake on their part. But, in point of fact, that's what it + was titled and the material that was in -- there was a report which + apparently was being circulated around to various governments, and + it came into my hands while I was working as a data analyst at RAF + Chicksands. + +RB: Okay, now the report was being passed around to allied military + personnel and intelligence personnel to share the data, right? + +BE: Well not only allied, but the last designated place it had been, + according to the transportation sheet, which was attached to the + pouch it was in, was at Moscow. + +RB: Really? Okay, now, you found this book somehow. How did it come to + get in that stack you were looking at, I mean did they give it to + you to analyze or, I mean, on purpose or, I mean since it would -- + would have been prepared by the Air Force, why would you -- why + would you end up analyzing it? + +BE: Well, my job designation was data analyst for security services + command and essentially what my job was to do was take information + and analyze it for its validity. RAF Chicksands was a security + listening post and we monitored radio transmissions from Soviet Bloc + nations. And those transmissions were translated, and then it was + my job to take the information that was obtained and analyze it to + try and make determination as to whether or not the information was + factual. + +RB: Well, that is information that -- that was to see if it was part of + misinformation or disinformation too? + +BE: Right. + +RB: Okay, so, in other words, you were just trying to see if they were + catching on to stuff that we didn't know about, and stuff that we'd + been feeding them that they were regurgitating, just to see if it + was working? + +BE: Right. + +RB: Okay. The spy game? + +BE: Yeah. + +RB: Yeah, okay. + +BE: Essentially that's what it was. + +RB: All right. So, along comes this report, though what if you were + analyzing the data from the Russians and listening post from + wherever it is you're listening, how would you end up with this + book? + +BE: Well, specifically my job was to analyze whatever came across my + desk, and on this particular day the duty officer who brought us our + daily assignments, which we signed for, brought this document in a + diplomatic pouch and unsealed it there. I signed for it and I was + in my little cubbyhole -- + +RB: Was that a mistake do you think? + +BE: Uh, I don't believe so. + +RB: Well, the reason I ask is, this is -- this was -- this particular + document was more than just top secret, right? + +BE: Oh, very much higher than top secret. + +RB: So, why would such a document just end up in the hands of an unknown + analyst somewhere in Britain -- + +BE: Well, I don't know that I was unknown, I was the best there was at + the time -- + +RB: Well, all right, I don't want to impugn your work, nor your + capabilities, the point is, that from the Pentagon's point of view + you were just one more cog in a very big wheel -- + +BE: Yeah. + +RB: So, this kind of information is obviously shocking I suppose, to + reality as we understand it, comes to you as an analyst. I think + that it would seem rather odd that it would just sort of end up in + your cubbyhole for analysis. I mean, it's not -- this ain't just + any old document, right? + +BE: No, it wasn't any old document. I believe that there was a reason + because there were some photographs which I had taken while in + Vietnam. I was in Vietnam from 1970 to '72, and we had a recovery + mission over in the jungles in Laos, a downed aircraft. And we were + given the assignment to go into Laos and recover the aircraft and + recover, if possible, surviving crew members, what they told us were + flight recorders and those kind of thing, and which we did. We went + in and we found the aircraft. It had not crashed. It was an + extremely unusual situation. + +RB: How so? + +BE: Well, there was no crash damage to the surrounding jungle. The + aircraft was not destroyed. It looked as though it had been placed + there in the jungle by a great big giant hand. When we gained access + to the aircraft, we went in through one of the hatches. When we + gained access to the aircraft, the entire crew was still in their + seats, strapped in their safety harnesses and mutilated. + +RB: Mutilated? + +BE: Mutilated. And originally we thought at that time that it was the + work of VC. + +RB: Yeah, well it would be a reasonable thought, of course. What kind + of a plane was it? + +BE: It -- we were told it was a B52 and I've always assumed it was. + +RB: Well, I mean, B52s are hard to mistake. + +BE: Yeah, it was a very large aircraft. + +RB: Yeah, well, a B52 everybody can recognize. I mean... + +BE: There's been some controversy over what it was over the past couple + years, but in fact it was a B52. + +RB: So, a B52 was sitting in the jungle undamaged, no crash damage to + the surrounding jungle growth, and as you say, looked like it had + been taken and placed there by a giant hand from the sky... + +BE: A load of bombs in the bomb bays. + +RB: So, it was a B52. + +BE: And the crew, the entire crew was still in their jump suits. + +RB: Okay, now it seems that whatever happened, had happened + instantaneously, but it didn't look like it had actually crashed so, + the puzzle was, how did the plane this size end up in the jungle, + not damaged, everybody in their flight suits, mutilated? + +BE: Well, we don't know -- + +RB: I mean, that must have been what you were thinking. + +BE: Well, that's true, but also you have to bear in mind that we were + operating in enemy territory and we -- everybody get in and get out + as fast as we could. + +RB: Yeah, but you did take photographs. + +BE: Oh yes, I did take the photographs, I collected dog tags. We found + no survivors. We recovered the black boxes that were on aircraft, + where we were told they were located. And then we placed satchel + charges throughout the aircraft and destroyed it with the bodies in + it. + +RB: Why would they do that? + +BE: Why would we do what? Destroy the aircraft? + +RB: Yeah. I mean, unless it was flyable, but even then how do you get + it out of a jungle? + +BE: There were several hundred thousand tons of bombs on the thing -- + +RB: Ah, well, there you are, okay. But you blew it up in place with the + bodies on board? + +BE: The bodies in it. We -- there was no possible way we could + transport the bodies out. + +RB: Yeah, so they were listed as KIA, and that was that. + +BE: Killed in action. And -- we turned in the material that we got and + -- the black boxes, the photographs and the dog tags and whatever + records that we found on the aircraft to MAC-V headquarters in + Saigon and we forgot about it. + +RB: Okay, it was just another mission. All right. Now, it's some years + later, you're in London and along comes the Blue Book and your + photos are in it. + +BE: Right. + +RB: Okay and it was -- do you think maybe that's why you got the book, + 'cause it was -- some of it was yours? + +BE: It was -- it's very possible. At the time that we were sent in on + the mission, all we were told was an aircraft went down. When I + viewed the report, there was a report attached to the photographs + which stated that the aircraft had been in radio contact with its + base and that it reported that it was under attack by bright objects + and then all of a sudden the radio transmissions died. + +RB: White objects. + +BE: Very bright objects. + +RB: Oh, bright objects. + +BE: Bright objects. + +RB: Glowing, bright objects and that was all they had. + +BE: Yeah. + +RB: I see. After that it was blank and then you got the call to go in + and get the stuff. Okay, so it comes across your desk. I'm going + to take a break and when we come back, we're going to pick it up + what happened after that. + +RB: You -- you got the book and you took a look and saw what was in it. + All right, as an analyst dealing with top secret information all the + time, what made this -- what happened when you saw all of this, I + mean, as an analyst, what was your responses as you, Bill English, + what was your response? + +BE: Well, as an analyst, I wasn't sure what I was looking at. As Bill + English, I was pretty -- pretty incredulous until I started taking a + closer look at the material that was in it. + +RB: And what did you see, what did you find? + +BE: Well, among other -- among other things there were various technical + reports and reports from very well known people, among them was Dr. + J. Allen Hynek. I remember Hynek's comments very -- very clearly. + He stated that although he had not seen the physical evidence + firsthand, based on the report that he had seen, he felt that it was + true. + +RB: That what was true? + +BE: That the report and the material within the report was true. + +RB: And the material was again, was the information on the physical + evidence of these, whatever they were. + +BE: Right. + +RB: Yeah. What did the book assume all of this was? I mean, what did + it? + +BE: Well, there was no assumption at all, it clearly stated that this + was material that had been recovered from various crash sites around + the country and several South American and European nations. It very + clearly stated that it was of alien origin, not of this Earth. + +RB: Oh, and so it said that this was from outer space? + +BE: Right. + +RB: And didn't make any bones about it? + +BE: None whatsoever. + +RB: Okay, so there you are, incredulously saying, "My God, the + government says there really are UFOs and here's the pictures and + all the locations of physical evidence to prove it." So, again, how + do you get to be the fugitive? + +BE: Well, essentially what happened was, after I analyzed the document, + I turned in my report as per regulations. Signed the document back + over to the officer of the day and promptly forgot about it. + +RB: And promptly forgot about it? + +BE: Well, as much as I was able to. You know, we didn't discuss our + work -- + +RB: No, I understand. That's a professional requirement. But + incredulity doesn't lead to just forget about it. + +BE: Uh, no, but you don't talk about things like that and you just sort + of mull it over and then you get on with your life. As best you're + able. + +RB: Okay. + +BE: About two weeks after viewing the document, I reported for work one + morning and was told that the base commander wanted to see me and + was escorted there by two air security policemen. After waiting + for, I guess about thirty or forty minutes, I was escorted into the + BC's office, and uh -- + +RB: That's the base commander. + +BE: Base commander. And -- was promptly informed by him that my + services were no longer needed and that I was being returned to the + United States. + +RB: Um hmm. Any reason given? + +BE: Not -- not then. I promptly replied -- you know, because at that + time -- my wife at that time was a schoolteacher for Department of + Defense schools at RAF Chicksands, and I promptly informed him that + since technically if I was no longer employed by the government I + became a dependent husband. Because she was employed by Department + of Defense schools that I'd just go home. And he politely informed + me, in no uncertain terms that I was being removed from Great + Britain and sent back to the United States. And I then asked him if + I could please call my wife and let her know what was going on -- + +RB: Now you -- they meant to return you immediately? + +BE: Immediately. + +RB: You mean that -- that afternoon? + +BE: That day. + +RB: My. Normally things don't work that fast in the military that I + remember. + +BE: Me either, but when I asked to call my wife at the school, where she + was at, at the time, I was told no. + +RB: Now, had you figured that something was amiss, that you were being + treated this way for something you allegedly had done? + +BE: I didn't know what to think at the time, because my efficiency + reports at that point were very good. I'd had no problems in my job + whatsoever. + +RB: So -- but you had to assume something was going on here. + +BE: Well, I did. And I asked you know -- you know, okay, what's the + problem. Have I broken a regulation or something, and he said no, + your services are no longer needed, period. And you're being sent + back to the States. + +RB: Right now. + +BE: Right now. + +RB: Right bloody now. + +BE: Right. And when I requested permission to call my wife at the + school to let her know what was happening, permission was refused. + And I was escorted by two air security policemen to RAF Lakeinheath + [sp] where I was put on an immediate flight. + +RB: You didn't even get to pack. + +BE: Not even. + +RB: Not even a toothbrush. + +BE: Not even. + +RB: (whistles.) Boy, so you were flown back to the states -- + +BE: Flown back to the states -- + +RB: Okay and again -- + +BE: (unintelligible.) + +RB: Okay so what happens to make you the fugitive? I mean, so far it's + begun to build up to something, but -- + +BE: Well, uh, at this point I didn't know quite what to do and had tried + several times to contact my family directly and then through + friends, and at all turns I was thwarted. + +RB: They wouldn't let you contact your family? + +BE: Uh, no, every time I tried to call -- call my home in England, the + -- a man's voice would answer. And I was told that those + individuals were no longer there. + +RB: Well, and of course you wanted to know -- well where are they? + +BE: Yeah and of -- and they hung up on me. + +RB: I see. + +BE: And then when I tried contacting friends that lived in England -- + who knew my wife and asked them to pass a message on to her, they -- + I would call their phone number and the same man's voice would + answer. + +RB: Uh huh. I see. + +BE: By this time I had met a gentleman by the name of Stanton Friedman + who is a fairly well known investigator of the phenomena, and told + him my story, what was going on and everything and Jim Lorenzen and + the head of APRO at that time very graciously made his records + available to me -- + +RB: I would think at this time you would get an attorney. + +BE: Well, it was a pretty confusing situation. + +RB: Well, yeah, but I mean, you're being -- you're being taken + immediately out of country, not even to contact your family, how -- + I don't know how many weeks it was that they wouldn't let you get in + contact with your family. They're obviously distraught. You're + distraught. It seems to me that you -- the first thing you'd want + to do is to get an attorney to see what the heck's going on here -- + +BE: We tried and every time I did, no attorney would touch it. + +RB: No attorney would touch it? + +BE: No attorney would touch it, they would -- + +RB: Did you go to the press with this sort of stuff? + +BE: Well, uh -- + +RB: I mean, this is not -- this is not ordinary, everyday behavior for + the government is it, I mean -- + +BE: No, it's not. And I didn't go to the press, I went to my father. + +RB: Uh huh. And how could he help? + +BE: Well, my father at that time was a member of the Arizona State + Legislature. + +RB: Okay. + +BE: And we were friends of -- our family was friends of the Barry + Goldwater family. And we asked if they could look into it, and I + have letters in my file right now which Goldwater had sent back to + us, stating quite frankly, he was told to mind his own business. + +RB: Now, he happens to be a reserve general in the Air Force. + +BE: Right. + +RB: Well, and he was also a U.S. Senator at that time. To have him mind + his own business is a little extraordinary. + +BE: Well, he was -- + +RB: I mean, I -- it is his business, isn't it? I mean to find out + what's going on in the military? + +BE: I would think so. But, he was, he got letters and he was flat out + told to mind his own business and stay out of it or he would regret + it. + +RB: That he would regret it? + +BE: Uh huh. + +RB: Did you see the letters sent to him? + +BE: I have copies of the letters in my files. + +RB: That he would regret -- and from whence came those letters? + +BE: Uh -- + +RB: From the Pentagon? + +BE: No, they're -- according to Senator Goldwater at the time, he went + directly and asked for information. + +RB: He went directly to what, the English base? + +BE: No. The Department of Defense. + +RB: Okay, the Pentagon. + +BE: The Pentagon. Was told to mind his own business. + +RB: And he got these letters saying -- as such, right? + +BE: Now, well these are letters that he sent to me. + +RB: Uh huh. And he got -- and you got copies of letters that were sent + to him telling to butt out? + +BE: Right. + +RB: Who were they signed by? + +BE: Umm, there is no signature as far as I could tell. These letters + were letters that he had written to me. + +RB: Oh, I see, I see. So you don't have the copies of the actual + letters he received -- + +BE: Actual letters, no. + +RB: So meanwhile, your family is still in England, hidden someplace. + For how long is it by now? + +BE: Well, now it's -- it was -- it's been almost fifteen years. + +RB: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Your family has been + missing for fifteen years? + +BE: Uh, up until a week ago. + +RB: Up until a week ago? + +BE: I'm very pleased to say that there is -- there is a happy ending to + part of the story. + +RB: Well this is too bizarre for words. You'd -- you were -- fifteen + years and you've just been reunited with your wife and children + after fifteen years? + +BE: Fifteen years. I met my sons and my wife yesterday morning. + +RB: My god, then I've got to ask the question. What -- did they tell + you what the hell happened? + +BE: Well -- + +RB: I mean, where have they been for fifteen years? + +BE: Fifteen years they've been in England. + +RB: Yeah, but I mean under the protection of some -- + +BE: Well, uh, according to my wife, what happened was, is that I didn't + come home and she called over to work to find out what was going on. + They referred her to the base commander's office and the base + commander, according to her, informed her that I walked in, turned + in my resignation and requested an immediate flight out of the + country. + +RB: I see. + +BE: And she assumed at that point that I had deserted the family. + +RB: Why would she assume that? + +BE: Well, you go to work in the morning and you come home and you find + your husband not there and -- + +RB: No, I got to tell you something. The last thing I'd assume if my + wife didn't show up is that she was abandoning. I mean, the thing is + to say, this is bizarre, what the hell's going on here? + +BE: Well, this is what she told me what they had told her. + +RB: I'm sure they -- whatever they said, but it's your wife. I mean, to + readily assume that that was, that she -- that you'd abandon her, I + mean, why would she assume that? + +BE: Well, I really don't know at that point. You know, I can't speak + for what happened from her end other than what she's told me took + place, but very shortly -- + +RB: But what about the idea when you called to reach her and the strange + man's voice. What was that all about? + +BE: According to her, she never received any phone calls from me. + +RB: Well, you never talked to her that's -- + +BE: Weeks and weeks, and -- + +RB: Didn't you write letters? + +BE: Oh, I wrote several dozen letters. + +RB: She never got one? + +BE: Never got 'em. + +RB: Never got 'em. + +BE: Never got 'em. + +RB: Okay. So, she -- you were reunited just yesterday? + +BE: Just yesterday. + +RB: And so she's been there for fifteen years, and you've never been + able to contact her that whole time. Didn't you ever go back to + England? + +BE: No, because my passport was revoked. + +RB: I see. For what reason? + +BE: There was a question about my birth certificate. + +RB: Why, what's wrong with your birth certificate? + +BE: Well, according to the government, the birth certificate, which I + had originally submitted for my passport application, was invalid. + +RB: Why? + +BE: Well, it was a hospital birth certificate, which was issued in 1952. + And not a state birth certificate. And when we tried to find a + state birth certificate in Albuquerque or Santa Fe, because I was + born in New Mexico, there was one -- there was nothing there. + +RB: In other words, according to state records, you were never born? + +BE: Right. + +RB: Interesting. All right, so now -- your wife is back and now you've + -- kind of pieced together that end. Meanwhile though, you've + suddenly ended up being, kind of, again, as they say, kind of the + guy on the run. How -- you're back here in the country, what + happened that made you the guy on the run? + +BE: Well, about two years after I returned from England, I managed to + get my life somewhat together and then opened up a small business in + Tucson, Arizona. And one day, in walk Colonel Robert Black, who was + then base commander at RAF Chicksands, and his operations Sergeant + Stone. + +RB: Is this the guy that fired you? + +BE: This is the guy who fired me. + +RB: Uh huh. And this is -- this is then two years later, after that + incident. + +BE: Right. + +RB: Okay. He strolls in with his Sarg. + +BE: Right. + +RB: Okay. + +BE: They tell me that they were cashiered out of the service and forced + to retire early. -- + +RB: Sort of like what happened to you? + +BE: Yeah, and primarily because of the documents that I had viewed. And + we sat and talked about it. Among other things they had told me + that they were separated from their families and this, that and the + other and they knew what was going on. And among other things that + they told me was the fact that they had information which said that + there was a UFO buried at White Sands Missile Test Range. + +RB: Uh huh. + +BE: The reason why it was there, and it was buried was because it was + too big to transport. + +RB: All right. + +BE: And after a great deal of discussion, they convinced me that it + would might not be a bad idea to try and find evidence of this UFO + and make it public. + +RB: That would not be a bad idea. + +BE: Well, I sort of agreed with them at the time and I ultimately sold + my business and put the money that I got out of the business into + the pot, so to speak, and we purchased a vehicle which we outfitted + with sand tires and camping equipment and we brought a radar -- a + marine radar unit from a marine shop and put it on the van and we + had sound detectors and magnetometers and everything and metal + detectors and camping gear. + +RB: Okay. So, then you're heading to White Sands. + +BE: And we were heading to New Mexico. + +RB: All right, so you get down to White Sands, and how did you get on + the reservation? I -- + +BE: Well, several locations. We went all up and down both sides and the + top of the missile range perimeter. And on several locations we + crossed through the fences and very briefly looked around and + everything and ultimately we wound up White Sands -- wound up at + White Sands National Park. The monument. Back in those days, you + used to be able to go out onto the -- out onto the sand dunes at + night and camp out. Since then, they no longer do that. But + ultimately we went into the National Park and kept on going across + the dunes with this sand vehicle that we had outfitted, crossed + through the fences north of the national monument and went directly + onto the range. Very stupidly, I might add, but in any case, it was + about sundown and we were sort of travelling along. I was outside + of the van with the metal detector and -- in front of the van lights + and they were in the van and I heard a very familiar old sound from + Vietnam and just immediately went face first into the dirt. + +RB: Incoming. + +BE: Yeah, exactly. And the next thing I know the van is confetti. + +RB: Is what? + +BE: Confetti. I mean this thing was just blown to pieces. + +RB: Uh huh. So -- + +BE: And then it -- + +RB: So it was hit with an explosive. + +BE: Uh, hit with -- with a missile of some kind. + +RB: Uh huh. + +BE: And I'm not proud because I'll admit to you that it scared me badly + and I took off at a dead run. + +RB: Well, that's understandable. + +BE: And, -- I eventually made my way off the range and was able to + hitchhike back to Tucson, Arizona. + +RB: Okay. And hold that because we have to take a break and I guess at + this point I guess you are now on the run. + +BE: At this point, I am just about to go on the run. + +RB: Okay, you got back to Tucson. You hitchhiked back from Arizona, + from White Sands, New Mexico down to Tucson, and then what? + +BE: Well, I wound up at a friend's house who's another UFO investigator + by the name of Wendell Stevens. And almost drowned in his pool + trying to find my way to his backyard. And Wendell, much to his + credit, when I was scratching on the window, let me in without + sticking a gun up my nose. And I told him what had happened and he + fed me and let me shower and gave me a shirt and took me back to my + apartment in Tucson. + +RB: Now when -- when -- when was this? + +BE: This is 1979. + +RB: Okay. '79. Okay, so you're there kinda getting yourself put back + together. + +BE: Yeah, and telling Wendell what was going on. And Wendell took me + back to my apartment, and we came to my apartment, there was a big + black car parked in front of the apartment. So I asked Wendell to + drop me off about two blocks down, and I snuck in through the back + door, through the alley. And for three days I kept looking out the + curtain window and there this car sat. Until finally, one day I + called a friend and packed my stuff, and moved out and rented a + trailer on the east side of Tucson and sold everything off and + bought a backpack and some camping equipment and took off. + +RB: And, was on the run. + +BE: Was on the run. + +RB: All right. Now let's go to the telephone. Derek in Denver: + +Derek: 7 seconds before it's on the radio. + +RB: Seven seconds? What? + +Derek: Oh, oops, Hi Rick. + +RB: Hi Derek. + +Derek: Hello. + +RB: Go ahead, Bill's -- Bill's on the other side there. + +Derek: Hi Bill. I just wanted to ask you a quick question and then I'll + hang up. You know, can you touch UFOs? + +BE: I don't know. I personally have never touched one. I've heard of + -- I've got several -- several hundred case reports of people who + say that they have, so I -- I personally, I don't know but I would + assume that you can. + +RB: Well, if it's made of mass of some solid object, I guess you can + touch a solid object. Do you mean can he touch it when it's -- + cause of radiation, or what? + +Derek: No, just like, touch it, like, you how -- you know, like how you + touch a person. + +RB: Yeah, you mean like a solid object. + +Derek: Yeah. + +RB: Yeah, a solid -- in other words, is it a solid object? + +Derek: Yeah. + +RB: I guess, what's -- the answer is yes. + +Derek: All right Rick, thanks. + +RB: All right Derek. And let's go to Bill in Denver. + +Bill: Yes, you know, this sounds almost like we need the zither in Orson + Welles with the third man theme. + +RB: Yeah, it sure does. + +Bill: And remember our friend John, Rick. Years ago? + +RB: Oh yes, of course I do. Anyway, go ahead and ask Bill a question. + +Bill: Well, it isn't a matter of asking the question, uh, it's a matter + -- I don't know of any Mt. Rainier in Maryland. As a matter of + fact, when I was in Maryland, I never saw a mountain in Maryland. + Mt. Rainier is in Washington. + +BE: You're absolutely right and I stand corrected. It is in Washington. + +Bill: The man that first saw them was a fellow named Kenneth Arnold. I + instructed the civilian flight instructor with Cabbage Hill [sp] + in Pendleton. And I don't know what Ken was drinking that day but + he had quite a mysterious thing, of course they wrote stories in + Argosy, Henry Wismer, the newsman was saying, you know, we know + what it is, it's good news, it's our ships and everything else. + When in fact they didn't know squat. And as you know Rick, I have + a little bit of history with respect to the posture like Barry + Goldwater's. And I just -- I've known Barry Goldwater for years + and I can't imagine anybody telling that man something like that. + +BE: We found that's astounding too, but I've got his letters. + +RB: Did you ever talk to the senator directly, and say, Senator, that + you're being told to butt out? + +BE: I haven't, but Senator Goldwater did appear on Larry King show and + he told Larry King that he had -- later on had asked for permission + to go into a storage facility located at Wright-Patterson Air Force + Base and permission was denied. + +Bill: I don't know how the hell you deny a man like that permission to + do whatever he wants to do. + +BE: I have no idea, but he was flat out told no. + +Bill: Were you by chance with DIA? + +BE: No, I wasn't. + +Bill: You weren't. Because all of the trappings and all the traces that + you talk about, monitoring the radio broadcasts, radio books and + this type thing, smacks of what I used to do when I was the DIA. + +BE: It was a division of NSA. + +Bill: It was division of NSA. + +RB: All right. + +Bill: You know George Keagan. You remember George Keagan? + +BE: The name is familiar. + +Bill: George Keagan was the Air Force general, George Keagan. He was + the one that was stomping for particle beam weapons and thought, + of course, that the Russians had been here for years. This is + about as viable, I think, as -- do you recall a story of Paul + Mantell? + +BE: Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. + +Bill: I knew Paul Mantell. Paul Mantell allegedly had a P51 blasted out + of the sky. I've flown P51s, I've instructed for P51s and P51s + don't get blasted out of the sky. When a man thinks he sees + something that he can't climb fast enough to get, and he climbs + fast enough -- or climbs as fast as he can in a P51, it has a + tendency to stall. And when it stalls it goes into an incredibly + sickening flat spin. And when it hits the ground, there's not + much left of it. + +BE: Well, isn't that what they -- what the official report was that + happened to him? + +Bill: I think it was. He was a National Guard pilot. I think in Montana + or Minnesota. + +RB: Well, nevertheless, your point is, is that he didn't get zapped, he + just went into a spin and crashed. + +Bill: You know, it still sounds like H.G. Welles and it sounds like Star + Trek and -- + +RB: But, it's interesting, isn't it? + +Bill: Well, I don't know whether it is or not. You know, Little Orphan + Annie is interesting if you don't mind Sandy going Arf! Arf! + +RB: No, Bill, you see, you're trying to mistake reality with + entertainment. + +Bill: Well, last time I saw entertainment, the sheriff closed it, you + know before the -- + +RB: Well, see, and Lord knows I'm trying to keep ahead of the sheriff + Bill. + +Bill: Okay, Rick. + +RB: Okay. Talk to you later. And let's continue on the telephone with, + let's see, where do we go from here, he said. Let's go to Jean in + Cap Hill. Hi Jean. + +Jean: Yes, I'm sorry to have to ask this, but I missed the very first + part of it and I just wondered if you could please reiterate for + me what was so dangerous about what you read. The general gist of + it that would make it so they would do this to you. + +BE: Well, I believe that it was classified information that was not + intended to be released and they were afraid that I would make it + public. + +Jean: Well, I mean what was the gist of this classified information? + +RB: UFOs. + +Jean: But, why is -- why was that information so much dangerous than any + other that has come out? + +BE: Well, essentially what it was, was the government admitting that the + UFOs existed and that they had physical evidence of it. And that + they had been lying to the people for years and years and years. In + the past, a lot of people have referred to this as a Cosmic + Watergate. And can you imagine the difficulties it would cause if + the government was to come out tomorrow and admit that, yeah there + are UFOs and yes, we've known about them for years and we've covered + it up to the point where we've even committed murder. + +RB: There's your answer Jean. + +Jean: All right. Thank you. + +RB: Okay. In Colorado Springs, Jeff. You're on with my guest, Bill + English. + +Jeff: Yes, thanks Bill. I just wanted to know if you're going to be + speaking anywhere in the Denver area soon. + +BE: No, I haven't been invited, but I am going to be speaking in + Orlando, Florida at the end of August at Walt Disney World. + +RB: Walt Disney World? + +BE: Walt Disney World. + +RB: Fascinating. + +Jeff: Well, how long are you going to be in the area? + +BE: Well, I'll be in Orlando for a week -- + +Jeff: Oh, I see, you're calling from there. + +RB: No, he's not. Right now he's in Tucson. + +BE: I'm in Arizona. + +Jeff: I tuned in late, okay. + +RB: You should never tune in late, you miss so much. + +Jeff: Now -- now Rick, on your show a couple of months ago, I heard + where this person announced that he was going to be coming out + with a special on abductions. Do you know anything about that + Bill, and why there was a delay on that? + +BE: Which -- + +Jeff: It's supposed to be in -- It was supposed to be this last February -- + +BE: There have been so many different programs on abductions in the last + several months it's -- I'm having a difficult time pinning it down. + +Jeff: It particularly pertained to MJ-12 and -- + +BE: That would probably be Bob Lazar on Current Affairs. + +Jeff: Oh, well, yeah -- do you know of the latest on that situation? + +BE: Uh, well, the latest is that we have been able to prove that Bob + Lazar did in fact work at Los Alamos. We've got -- + +RB: You better fill us in now, you've brought him up. + +Jeff: I'm sorry about that. I'm going to let you guys go, but that's an + extremely interesting story and please do Bill, please explain Bob + Lazar in detail. + +RB: All right. Okay. Bob Lazar in de -- well Bob Lazar not quite in + detail. + +BE: Bob Lazar is a gentleman who claimed he worked for the government at + a test site in Nevada of the Atomic Energy Commission range in a + place called area 51 S4. And he claimed that part of his job was to + work as a physicist and analyze and test fly UFOs that the + government had captured. At first, his claims were pretty + outlandish and were thought to be, but he passed two out of three + lie detector tests. We were able to determine that he did in fact + work at Los Alamos National Laboratories. Two ways. One, his name + was listed in the Los Alamos phone book, in the physics department. + And I personally went up to Los Alamos and visited the Ray Bradbury + science museum up there. And there was a picture of Bob Lazar out + on display called the Los Alamos employees in the community. + +RB: So, suffice to say he used to work there. + +BE: He used to work there. We have not been able to make any real + determination as to whether or not he worked in area S4 or area 51. + This is more popularly known at the Nevada test site, however, + recently Bob did receive a W2 form from the Navy for that time + period he says he worked at that area. + +RB: So, he was there. So what happened to Bob? + +BE: Maybe he was, yeah. + +RB: What happened to Bob? + +BE: Well, Bob is currently living in Las Vegas. He is on probation. + +RB: For what? + +BE: Well, when all this stuff became public and George Knapp aired the + initial report on local television in Las Vegas, Bob was arrested + because he installed a business computer system in a house of ill + repute. And he was charged with criminal solicitation. + +RB: I see. I see, okay. So, -- + +BE: Installed a business -- business machine in a whore house. + +RB: Well, then, that'll get you every time. Let's go back to the + telephone. In Oklahoma, Gene. + +Gene: Hi Rick. I'd like to ask your guest, what's his name? + +RB: Bill English. + +Gene: Okay. Have you heard of an author, and he was in the Air Force, + in Australia by the name of Stan Deyo? + +BE: Yeah as a matter of fact I have. He wrote a book about Australia + and UFOs. + +Gene: Cosmic Conspiracy? + +BE: Uh huh. + +Gene: Okay. Is he pretty valid? He had some really weird things to + say. + +BE: Well, uh. He's about as valid as you can get under the + circumstances. + +Gene: His stories sound something like yours other than the kidnapping + and things, or so called. He was working a lot with low frequency + soundwaves and magnetic fields for steering UFOs. Pretty + interesting book, but I used to sell books and I had to give mine + away and then I had a real hard time getting that book again. + +RB: All right. All right Gene. Thanks a lot. 623-8585, the number in + Denver, Gene. + +Gene: Hello Rick. + +RB: Yeah, you're on. + +Gene: Yeah, really is that a -- Sir, you are a very unusual man. + +BE: Thank you. I'm not sure whether that's a curse or a compliment. + +Gene: That's a compliment sir. As recently as your last encounter with + some of the people who are -- you are leaving behind in going, God + knows where, what were they like when they - - before you picked + up these files. Were they like -- + +RB: They, being the government? + +Gene: They being the government on the -- on the -- you know, where you + used to work at -- + +RB: You mean, in England? + +Gene: In England, yeah. + +RB: Where he worked with his colleagues and the base and all that jazz. + And you want to know were they -- everything was on the up and up + and suddenly everything went weird, right? Is that the question? + +Gene: Yeah, I mean, what like -- did they put it as a plant to get you + to do this? + +RB: To see if they could get rid of him. + +Gene: To get rid of you. + +BE: You know, throughout the years I've always said that's it's a + possibility that the material that I viewed was fraudulent, but I + don't think it was. + +RB: In other words, it was put there so they could have an excuse to + dump you? But what an elaborate scheme to do so. + +BE: I don't think it was put there as an excuse to dump me. I think, if + anything, it possibly could have been an elaborate plan to create + this information. + +RB: Uh huh. By the government? + +BE: By the government. + +RB: Well, then if they're going to do that, we'd have told everybody + about the copy 13 and then we'd all read it and say, see how silly + it is. + +BE: Well, that's possible, but like I said before, I don't believe it + was. + +Gene: Oh, I've been out to New Mexico. + +RB: Yeah, well, so have I, but anyway. 623-8585. Joe in Greeley. Hi. + +Joe: Hi. I wanted to ask him -- Bill English, that's his name? + +RB: That's his name, yeah. + +Joe: I've read something, I don't remember where it was at, but it was + something on a hangar. Where the government had a crashed UFO. + They took the bodies to this thing -- + +BE: You're referring to -- + +RB: Hangar 18. + +BE: Hangar 18. + +Joe: That's it. I just wanted to know the validity of that? + +BE: There is no such thing as Hanger 18. However, there is a Hangar 13. + +RB: And that's at Wright-Pat, isn't it? + +BE: That's at Wright-Patterson and that's -- + +RB: And that's in, what, Ohio? + +BE: Uh-huh. + +RB: Yeah. + +BE: And that's where they -- it's reputed they've been storing this. We + did come across information about a year ago from a gentleman who + was at Wright-Patterson when they brought the material from Roswell + there, who claim that he was invited to view the bodies. + +[end of tape, nearly end of interview.] +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Thanks, take care. +John. +- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2906.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2906.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..185734ed --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2906.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,543 @@ +SUBJECT: THE PAUL BENNEWITZ STORY FILE: UFO2906 + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------- +RELATED INFO FROM FENWICK.INT OFFERED AS A PREAMBLE TO PROJ.BET +--------------------------------------------------------------- + + If there is reason to question the accuracy of the information pre- +sented in the original AQUARIUS/MJ-12 document as well as the information +in the recent documents pertaining to MJ-12, does this logically imply +that the 1980 Kirtland/Bennewitz events should be considered questionable? +Any single-witness UFO sighting has always been somewhat questionable, +this is exactly why we look for multiple witnesses and any other support- +ing evidence. If Richard Doty, or Paul Bennewitz were alone in reporting +these incidents then the Kirtland events would never have become as major +an issue as they have. However there were numerous individuals involved +not only in the events precipitating the documents but in the preparation +of the documents themselves. A brief summary of the incidents is as fol- +lows: + + Early 1980, Paul Bennewitz becomes involved in observing and filming + objects which he has sighted on the ground and in the air near Kirt- + land AFB and the Manzano range. Reportedly his wife was also present + to witness some of the first landings he witnessed and filmed in the + Coyote Canyon area. Subsequently he contacts Earnest Edwards of the + Kirtland Security Police who, over the period of the next few + months, becomes concerned and requests the guards on the Manzano + Weapons Storage Area report to him any sightings of unusual aerial + lights. At the beginning of August 1980 three guards report sighting + an aerial light which descends on the Sandia Military Reservation. + This is the first sighting described in the complaint form signed by + Richard Doty. Edwards reports the sighting to Doty unaware that Doty + has already heard from Russ Curtis (Sandia Security Chief) that a + Sandia Security guard sighted a disc-shaped object near a structure + just minutes after the sighting by the three Manzano guards. Doty + includes these reports and several others in his Complaint Form and + forwards the report to AFOSI Headquarters in Washington. + + +From this point on many other persons became involved. Bennewitz was +called down to a meeting at Kirtland AFB at which several major Air Force +officers and Sandia personnel were present, including a Brigadier General. +Earnest Edwards has confirmed that the three guards under his command re- +ported what was described, and that the meeting took place. Bennewitz has +confirmed that Doty and Jerry Miller came to his home to view his mater- +ials and there is a document signed by Thomas A. Cseh, Commander of the +Base Investigative Detachment, to confirm this. Finally there is the com- +plete set of documents which were released by AFOSI Headquarters under +cover of the Department of the Air Force relating to the described events. + + + "How old is John [Lear] by the way?" + + "He's about your age, in his 50's. He talks about SDI as + being a weapon against the EBEs." + + "Oh yes, of course it is. That's well known among certain + UFOlogists." + + "Could you elaborate then?" + + "Okay. Part of the exchange of technology which started in + 1975 was [that] SDI was given to the Americans." + + "What...lasers, particle beams?" + + "Yes, all this sort of thing. There was a little bit + given mentally...in the 1930's to Bertrand Russel and + Albert Einstein, about stealth technology. Which + culminated in the 'Philadelphia Experiment'. That was + stealth technology, but the ship...[had] invisibility + to radar, not invisibility...invisibility to radar. + And that was continued. Then [with] the agreement, + they were given more information in 1975 as to how to + really setup the stealth technology, also [with] the + 'Star Wars' system. Supposedly the 'good guys' are + coming into this planet, and the 'grays' want to repel + them using the Star Wars technology. Star Wars is not + Soviet vs. American. It's Gray vs. the Nords or the + tall ones. That's all it is. Its a cover operation. + This is one of the things that John Lear was talking + about, and Linda Howe...and also a fellow down in + Arizona who has his scientific labs next to Kirtland + Air Force Base." + + "You know the name of the lab?" + + "Yes, 'thunder'. Dr. Paul Bennewitz who is an electronics + engineer. He was involved with the Kirtland sightings + and so on. He's mentioned that 'stolen telex', having + taken photographs of UFOs and so on...film, he's + filming them." + + "This is the telex that Moore reproduced?" + + "Yes. He retyped it..... + +-------------------------------------------------------------- +PROJECT BETA +--------------------- +By Dr. Paul bennewitz + +Following are key mile posts established or discovered during the continuing +study concerning alien intervention and the result. The study is limited +to New Mexico. + +1) Two years continuous recorded electronic surveillance & tracking with D.F. +24 Hr/Day data of alien ships plus 6,000 feet motion picture of same- + +2) Detection and disassembly of alien communication and video channels - both + +3) Constant reception of video from alien ship and underground base view- +screen; typical alien,humanoid and at times apparent homo sapien. + +4) A case history of an encounter victim in new mexico which lead to the +communications link and discovery that apparently all encounter victims have +deliberate alien implants along with obvious accompanying scars. The victims +cat scan. Five other cases were verified. + +5) Established constant direct communication with the alien using a computer +and a form of hex decimal code communication was instigated apparently +Through the alien communication loop,the true underground base location + +7) Subsequent aerial and ground photographs revealed landing pylons, ships on +the ground- entrances, beam weapons & apparent launch ports along with aliens +on the ground in electrostatically supported vehicles; charging beam weapons +also apparently electrostatic. + +8) Cross correlation and matching by triangulation,etc., to official nasa cir +(color IR) high resolution films confirmed base locations and resulted in +revealing us military involvement yielding precise coordinates & the us base +layout. + +9) Prior alien communication had indicated military involvement and the fact +that the usaf had a ship but due to studied alien psychology this was ignored +at the time. + +10) Subsequently, the alien communicated following verification with the cir +that there was a ship; actually more than one- that two were wrecked and +left behind and another built- this ship is atomic powered and flying. The +alien indicated + +11) It was learned as stated that two women and a boy near austin,texas were +exposed to severe radiation at close range & the ship was last seen going +west with helicopters. In addition, the expenses. + +12) Subsequent inspection of motion picture photographs taken during the +study +fy +revealed the us ship or one like it flying with the aliens. These match the +cir +where two can be seen on the ground and in the later photographs taken on the +ground after the base was abandoned. + + +--------------------------------------- + ------------------- +The computer communications and constant interaction with the alien in this +manner without direct encounter has given a reasonably clear picture of the +alien psychology, their logic and logic methods and their prime intent. + +It is important to note at the outset deception, and have no intent of any +apparent peace making process and they arranged agreement. + +In truth they tend to lie, however their memory for lying is not long and +direct comparative computer printout analysis reveals this fact. Therefore, much +drops thru the crack', and from this comes the apparent truth. It is not the +intent of this report to criticize or point fingers. Obviously with the +aliens was operating on our basis of logic and not that of the aliens and +in doing so apparently walked innocently, in time, into a trap. The alien +indicated that the 'greys', agreement with the us government, were still +upset about the initial capture and subsequent death of the first eight +of their co-fellows. + +Another group, calling themselves in the computer language, the 'orange'- mt. +Archeleta-directly west of the south end of the us base and near NW of the +apparent main landing area they call 'the diamond', probably because it looks +like that from a distance. The ridged SE peak of mt.Archeleta has no name; I +call it south peak. The base extends north of this peak to the edge of the +cliff down a road past a large alloy dome 38' across, with a 20' hole in the +top. + +Based upon some of the aerial photos during which the alien was caught in the +act of launching, I would guess it is an underground launch egress facility. +In the nasa cir there is what side the dome, on a ramp. It is the same size +of my 79 lincoln town car. + +Wheeled vehicles and what appear to be snow-cats or caterpillars can be seen +through the cir- car and truck tracks, trucks and jeeps. I don't believe +aliens have wheeled vehicles - humans do. + +Numerous road blocks extend northward maintained road some thirty feet wide. +There are @ads marked with 26' X's [X stands for X, Z or Q] and servicing +facilities, tanks, etc. There is also an apparent foundation for another +helo pad, human housing, and another black limousine with tracks leading to +it west of the road. If I were to make a guess, I would estimate the +apparent black limousines are CIA. This is but a limited inventory of what +was there on Sept. 8,1978, and is included only for information. The total +alien basing area apparently contains several cultures, (all under the +designation 'unity') and is approx 3 km wide by 8 km long and is located in +the middle of nowhere on the jicarilla indian reservation west of dulce, NM. +Based on the number of ships presently in this area, the total alien +population is estimated to be at least 2,000 and most likely more. More are +coming or are on the way. Report how the initial contact was made with the +us. The alien has communicated his account, and if totally true is not +palatable. + +Computer communication has allowed a constant accounting of what is and has +been going on as well as conditions what 'makes the aliens tick'. This is +very valuable data. + + ------- BETA REPORT -------- +1) Most importantly, the aliens will allow no one abducted to go without an +implant. After insertion knowledge of it is wiped out. All indications are +that communication with the aliens cannot happen without the implant (with +the exception of the use of the binary and the computer). This would +indicate a possible immediate threat or danger for anyone. + +The reasons for the implant are for both language and communication by +thought (there apparently is no language barrier with telepathy) and also for +complete and absolute control by the alien of the human by programming +through a beam or by direct contact. + +I have tested this and found that during this programming the person is +totally alien. If this ever happened to the military.... I need not go into +the possible consequences. The victims 'switch' can be pulled at any time +and at the same time they are 'walking cameras and microphones' if the aliens +choose to listen in with one of their beams. No classified area in the us is +inviolate under these conditions. The located and can be viewed by x-ray. + + +2) All of the aliens- human and humanoid - must have implants. Without them +no communication is possible. One could say that if a person states they +have communicated by thought with an alien, they probably have received an +implant. They may also claim to be overly psychic and be able to prove this. +Through the link-implant, the person is fed information without being aware +of the origin. + +3) The alien, either through evolvement or because the humanoid is +made/produced, will exhibit tendencies for bad logic (bad by earth logic +standards) so they are not infallible. + +In fact, they appear to have many more frailties and weaknesses than the +normal homo sapien. To the alien, the mind is the key, and therein lies a +great weakness which will be discussed later. + +4) They are not to be trusted. + +5) The aliens under discussion kill with beam weapons. Results on a human +will be a 3 cm - 4 cm purple circle. The results on cattle are the same, +essentially exhibiting purple beneath the hide, with burned circles on the +outside. + +6) Cattle mutilations - it appears that the humanoids are fed by a formula +made from human or cattle material or both and they are made from the use of +female encounter victim's ovum. The resultant embryos are referred to by the +alien as an organ. Time of gestation appears to approximate 1 year. + +The aliens are picking up and 'cutting' (as the aliens call it) many people +every night. Each implanted individual is apparently ready for the pull of +their 'switch'. Whether all implants are totally effective I cannot predict, +but conservatively would estimate at least 300,000 people have been +implanted in the us and at least 2 million worldwide. + + ----- WEAPONRY AND INHERENT ----- + WEAKNESSES + --------------------- + +Weaponry is of the keys and in the aliens present state we can prepare an +effective offense. One tends at the outset (I did) to look at their machines +and say that there is no defense or offense. One is overwhelmed by their +speed, apparent capability of invisibility and 'cloaking', and other covert +capabilities not discussed at this time. In particular, the beam weapons are +themselves a direct threat and one that + + +Let us look at just what this weapon is. It is an electrostatic weapon with +plasma generating voltages - and an internal storage device- it is pulse +powered. The beam, totally effective in the atmosphere can be loaded with +hydrogen or oxygen. The maximum range appears to be about 2 km if it is dry +weather. It is capable of sustaining a limited number of full-power charges- +continuous basis, so they must be recharged periodically. If it is raining +the weapon becomes ineffective and is swamped and thus discharged. + + ----- SHIP WEAPONS ----- + +On the disks and saucers, the weapon center and has a maximum range of 200 +meters at which point it will plow a trench in the soil. When fired, it +fires both to the front and to the back min flight. + + ------ Hand weapons ----- +estimate based upon visible damage observed: hand weapons are deadly at +close range. At one meter, estimate of 1600 degrees f or higher; it can +vaporize metal. + + ---- AIRCRAFT VULNERABILITY ----- + ---------------------- + + ANY OF OUR AIRCRAFT CAN BE TAKEN DOWN + +Ebow wave or screen or both will take the aircraft down. The same tactic +also the alien craft, however, are relatively fragile. They can be downed by +lighting or any method that will interfere with their propulsion system. + + ---- ALIEN COMMAND AND CONTROL ---- + ------------------------- + +Because of the aliens apparent logic system, a key decision cannot be made +without higher clearance. All are under, yet it would appear that even this +is not the final authority. Delays as long . How long the time delay is +during battle conditions is uncertain. + +Because of this apparent control, individual decision making by the 'greys' +are limited. If the 'plan' goes even slightly out of balance or context, +they become confused. Faced with this, possibly, the humanoids they have +created would be the first to break and run. + + ----- PSYCHOLOGICAL ASPECTS ----- + --------------------- + +Psychologically, at present, their morale is down. There is pronounced +dissension in the ranks- even with the humanoids. Communication can +encourage this problem due to their own internal vulnerability mind-wise, and +therein lies a prime weakness. Inter-echelon or individual 'trust' appears +to be totally lacking , so suspicion of each other is rampant. They are +highly segregated as to levels- a 'low' dare not conflict with a higher +social level, or it may me an death. Death to the humanoid may mean either +physical death or deprogramming. Oriented, and because of this, they are also +death-fear oriented. This is a psychological advantage for us. + + ----- PROPULSION COMMENTS ----- + AND MORE WEAKNESSES + +Most of the ships run on a charge. That source depletes and needs to be +replenished. Ships can replenish each other, but only up to charge balance. +This is done with antennae-like extensions and the charge is distributed +observing our early energy conservation laws. They can get replenished from +power lines, but only to a point. Deprived of their base and charging +capabilities, it is estimated that all ships would come down within 6 months +to a year unless they can get transported out by the prime launch ship, which +is capable of physical space travel. The disks and saucers in general cannot +fly in space because of their mode of flight. Their capabilities in power +survival outlasts survival. + + ---- BASES DEPENDENT ON + WATER SUPPLIES --- + +In the case of Mt. Archeleta, they are dependent upon the Navajo river for +water supply, and water to them totally embodies the concept of life. +Without water they have no power; without power, no oxygen or hydrogen to +service their ships and weapons. Water also sustains the organs and is +necessary for the development of the feeding formulae using cattle and human +biologicals. + + ----- PLAN FOR DESTRUCTION + OF THEIR WATER SUPPLY + AND RESULTS ---- + +There is a water intake and dam upstream that can be totally cut off and the +water rerouted to chama, new Mexico. Should this occur, at least three of +the internal bases will go down. They could possibly go to atomic power +periodically but obviously they would have problems without cooling +capabilities. Once the bases are pressed on a large scale, all disks and +saucers will go airborne. + + ---- DEVELOPMENT OF BEAM + COUNTER WEAPONRY----- + ---------------- + +Thunder scientific company in albuquerque, which is one of my companies, has +developed some prototype beam weapons. Tests conducted to date indicate that +they work rather well. The weapon will both penetrate their screens and the +ground. The disk, when within range, begins to discharge the energy +accumulated. To counteract, they must apply more power. Alloy. They cannot +shield themselves from it in any way. Lastly, because of their brain implant +devices, the weapon gets to them mentally; they loose judgement and indicate +almost immediate confusion, particularly the humanoids. The range of my +weapon exceeds that pf their present weapons. + + ----- LOGISTICAL PLANS ----- + ---------------- + +Initial logistics would indicate a plan sequentially implemented as follows: + +This plan does not include all req uirements and preparatory safety measures +to be employed by the ground force; however, if air force intel desires to +pursue the approaches suggested in this report, each significant requirement +will be discussed in depth. + +The attack must be directed almost entirely on the ground since vehicle +ignition problems will be encountered. All electrical and electronic +equipment must be 'hardened' using specific techniques perfected prior to +implementation. This information has been checked by interaction and +eavesdropping on their communication channels,as far as weaknesses are +concerned. + +THE PROGRAM WOULD BE INSTIGATED IN PHASES: + +(I) the first phase-planning and logistics-would include continued +implementation and testing of the final weapon prototype thru the pre- +production stage. Production of at least50 should be planned. Additional +backup spares should also be included. Estimated that at least one year or +less would be required to arrive at the pre-production stage. A team would +be organized by thunder scientific to accomplish this. The key work would be +done by an associated company, bennewitz labs,ltd. + +SPECIFIC ATTACK PHASES WOULD BE INCORPORATED: + +1) The first procedure would be to close the gates of the dam above the +Navajo river. This dam could be held closed for the duration. Internal to +the one cave, there is a small dam for water storage. Its capacity is small. +There is also a discharge outlet downstream that could be closed, causing +waste water to back up into the caves. The water is vacuum pumped apparently +by some electrostatic means from the river. At close range, the weapon will +take out this capability. + +2) Once deprived totally of water for a minimum of four weeks, conditions +will have badly deteriorated. Psychological shock is extremely effective +with the alien: total advantage can be taken by quick action or planned +observable deviation from the norm. At least three bases will go down. + +3) If they follow their normal patterns as when pressed as above, they will +launch most, if not all ships. + +4) Prior to the implementation of water depravation, the weapons should be +deployed at strategic hardened locations and activated in a certain pre- +planned manner determined by final weapon coordinate locations. + +5) This will put an immediate power drain upon those airborne and the alien + +6) Because of the inherent psycho- logical aspect of these aliens, much can +be done in the open with no attempt done can be of a diversionary nature. +Under most conditions they will attempt to harass but will not openly attack. + +7) Prior to an during operations, open computer communications link will be +operational for continued psychological interrogation. + +8) At some point in time- again rest- ing upon battle status, the deployment +of defensive forces will begin. This deployment should be done in a near +instantaneous manner under certain special conditions that can be discussed. + +9) The weapon systems should be kept in the powered-up state. In this manner +the disks will be made to stay airborne. They cannot land during the interval +that the system is powered up. + +10)When the weapon is used in one specific power mode, in addition to +continuous discharge on the disks that are airborne and the ground based +weapons, the mind confusion and disorientation will build in those personnel +at the base and underground. At the end of four or five weeks or less, all +of their weapons should be totally discharged and the power should be out on +the bases. Most personnel, if not all, should be totally incapacitated. +Feeding formula production will be down and critical processing ruined. All +embryos should be dead and all oxygen and hydrogen consumables should be +depleted. + +11) Based upon data gathered on the prototype weapons, the full power weapons +should have no problem holding off the disks. In many cases some will break +within the first forty-eight hours without being directly hit. + +12) At that point, standard weapon technology and logistics can come into +play and used to the extent of destruction desired at the direction of those +in charge. + +13) The communications can be used throughout the conflict to determine +status and near the end to attempt to instigate surrender. If no response +results, then they should simply be closed in and waited out. + +--------------------------------------- + ***** SUMMARY ***** + +--------------------------------------- + +It is important to note that my initialimplementation of the computer +communications was not instigated for the purpose of talking to one of the +aliens 'for the fun of it', but was deliberately instigated to use as a tool +to study, in depth, the aliens on a long term basis without the need for +physical confrontation, and to determine possible strengths and weaknesses. + +The weapon theory and prototypes were built to capitalize upon and test the +two key and prominent weaknesses that were discovered. This in-house funded +program has been expensive, in excess of $200,000; on behalf of our nation +and handled in the best representative manner humanly possible. + +(1) The prime and weakest area that was discovered, probed and tested is +exactly what the aliens assumed was their key strength - that being the +manipulation of and control of the mind. + +(2) Though their ships seem rather formidable, they also have weaknesses, +solely Because of their method and unique mode of flight. + +------------------------------------- + +It is not the purpose of this report to imply that the overall problem will +be solved with the capture of these bases. Obviously it will not, but it is +a firmly based beginning with a high degree of rated projected success. It +is not intended to imply that this particular species of alien and their +humanoid workers will not fight; they may fight, but their inclination is +generally the opposite. This basing area is the key. Without it, their +mission is in very deep trouble. It is noted that these are not the only +bases on earth- there are others. With a conservative estimate using typical +logical support numbers, it is not unrealistic to say that there are 50,000 +aliens within the ecosphere of earth and the space near it. Some of us will +be lost in the endeavor. That is obvious. The key to overall success is +they the aliens totally respect force . +And with them, the most effective method is to stubbornly continue to pick +and pull at their defense with no letup. Faced with the total loss of bases +that it has taken years to construct, it is believed that their mission ill +be grossly weakened and badly slowed. + +As americans we must realize that we cannot reply upon our inherent moral +principles to provide the answer. + +NEGOTIATION IS OUT. IN FINAL CONCLUSION: + + [A] NO NEGOTIATION,AGREEMENT OR + COMPROMISE. + + [B] THEY ARE TOTALLY DECEPTIVE + AND DEATH ORIENTED AND HAVE + NO RESPECT FOR HUMANS OR + HUMAN LIFE. + + [C] THEY CANNOT UNDER ANY + CIRCUMSTANCES BE TRUSTED. + + + +------------------------------------- + +We in our innocent human way, negotiated the first time by compromise-we took +too little with no major safeguards and allowed too much. We must not allow +that to happen again. +------------------------------------- + + DR. PAUL BENNEWITZ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2907.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2907.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8c438f87 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2907.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +SUBJECT: PHIL IMBROGNO HAS RESPONDED FILE: UFO2907 + + + + +AUTHOR IN BIRDSLL1.UFO RESPONDS + + 06/29 -- Phil Imbrogno, author of NIGHT SIEGE: THE HUDSON +VALLEY UFO, has responded to charges levelled in the file BIRDSLL1.UFO. The +file, a former NSA employee named Jerry Birdsall, consisted of a statement +in which Birdsall levelled charges tantamount to libel at Imbrogno. While +he didn't name Imbrogno or the book in his release, Birdsall, referred +to in NIGHT SIEGE as "James Madison," told us in a face to face encounter +that Imbrogno had misinterpreted his actions, misquoted him, and otherwise +distorted the truth in his accounts of their interactions. + +In a conversation today, Imbrogno was at first reticent to admit that +Birdsall was the James Madison referred to, for obvious reasons. When +assured of our purposes, Imbrogno freely discussed his dealings with the +former NSA SIGnals INTelligence specialist. He said that Birdsall first +came to the UFO researcher due to his interest in the Hudson Valley +sightings, which were in full swing at the time. According to Imbrogno, +Birdsall told him of his NSA employment "in a way that sounded like it was +designed to impress me somehow," but told him that his interest was to +obtain funding for Imbrogno's investigation from the Fund for UFO Re- +search, of which Birdsall claimed to be a member. "He said he was a good +friend of [FUFOR Chairman] Bruce Maccabee, and that he could use his in- +fluence to get me funded." But it turned out that Maccabee and other Fund +members "barely knew" Birdsall, says Imbrogno, and FUFOR turned him down +for funding. + +While not specifically referred to in the file, a central point seems to +be a quote in NIGHT SIEGE, attributed to "James Madison": "The government +has been known to dispose of people for less" (referring to UFO research +that might compromise government secrets). Imbrogno said he found it "ra- +ther strange," but admitted that it could just as easily be interpreted as +a statement, rather than as a threat. "It was just strange coming from +this guy who had made a big deal about his ties with the NSA." + +Imbrogno said that at no time in the book did he insist that "Madison" +(Birdsall) was an agent assigned to monitor or sabotage his UFO research. +He said he was merely suspicious of his activities, and thought them wor- +thy of note in his book. He admitted that the book's editor may have +"spiced up" one or two passages for dramatic value, but that the book was +"90% accurate" in its portrayal of Birdsall. + +"If I was going to invent incidents involving a government agent just to +sell more books, do you think I'd design them around a real person who +could come back and refute what I'd said?" asked Imbrogno. "Hell, no, I'd +make the guy up out of thin air. Who could argue with me then?" + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2908.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2908.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ba97825a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2908.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ + +SUBJECT: BRAZILIAN AIR FORCE REPORTS UFOs FILE: UFO2908 + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + "IT HAPPENED THEN....." + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + "Flying Saucer" Newsletter - C.S.I.- N.Z. - 1957 + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + "American Flying Saucer Review" - Seattle, Washington + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ PUBLISHED STATEMENTS ON UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS ³ +³ ³ +³The Brazilian Air Force in an official report has made the ³ +³startling statement that flying saucers are real! ³ +³ ³ +³The report reads in part as follows: ³ +³ ³ +³".....On December 2, 1954, came the last and most important ³ +³development in this matter. A conference was performed at ³ +³the Army Technical School, patronized by A.D.E.S.G. ³ +³(Superior Army School Graduates Association), a very ³ +³responsible entity. The selected audience included ³ +³important military personnel and civilian authorities. The ³ +³subject to be discussed was entitled 'Flying Saucers.' ³ +³Colonel Adil de Oliveira was in charge. He made a careful ³ +³evaluation of all information and evidence collected ³ +³throughout the world since 1947. he analysed Project Blue ³ +³Book and studied seven outstanding cases from the project's ³ +³files. He discussed the best Brazilian sightings and ³ +³concluded making the following statements: ³ +³ ³ +³" '1. Evidence shows that the saucers are real. No ³ +³government could afford to ignore the reports about u.f.o.s.³ +³and all investigations should be made to determine the ³ +³identity of any u.f.o. sighted over the country. The ³ +³problem could be of military interest. ³ +³ ³ +³"'2. The saucers appear to be some kind of revolutionary ³ +³aircraft. They are not conventional phenomena or illusions.³ +³There are too many responsible people involved to say that ³ +³the whole thing was a hallucination. ³ +³ ³ +³" '3. We don't know where they come from, and we don't know³ +³the purpose of their survey. I hope some day we can solve ³ +³the riddle and know the answers.' ³ +³ ³ +³"Finally, closing the conference, Brigadier Guedes Muniz ³ +³said a few words: 'We military technicians and aeronautic ³ +³engineers have not tried in the past to discuss the ³ +³technological and scientific probability of these space ³ +³vagabonds. And we are not trying to discuss it now, because³ +³we remember an old story, very good to be recalled here: ³ +³ ³ +³"Years ago, the best aeronautic engineers in the world ³ +³assembled together to study the horn-beetle flight. They ³ +³analysed the horn-beetle, it's aerodynamic shape entirely ³ +³wrong, it's flight surface tremendously deficient, it's ³ +³heaviness and it's incredible power. After a great deal of ³ +³reasoning and scientific experimentation they had made ³ +³certain that the horn-beetle could not fly. But the horn- ³ +³beetle, knowing nothing of this, is still flying!" '...." ³ +³ ³ +³=END= ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2909.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2909.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..213cade6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2909.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO ADVOCATE GETS ANOTHER DAY IN COURT FILE: UFO2909 + + + + + +10/02/90 UFO advocate gets another day in court + + RICHMOND, Va. -- An Army publicist who claims he received a poor job +evaluation because of his off-duty efforts to expose military UFO coverups +argued before a federal appeals panel he needs an injunction to protect him +from his supervisors' ire. + + But a three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals +suggested Tuesday the entire case may be unnecessary since the offending +evaluation had already been excised from Larry Bryant's file. + + Bryant, 52, a 32-year civil service veteran from Alexandria who works +as a civilian editor for the Army News Service, claimed his First Amendment +right to free speech was violated because his job rating was based in part on +his longtime interest in UFOs and the military. + + In 1985, after running ads asking for help in ending "the Cosmic +Watergate," Bryant received his first-ever unsatisfactory job rating. Bryant +sued, claiming the Army was trying to block his search for Army +whistleblowers. The Defense Department later agreed to stop bothering him +about the ads, but Bryant continued to press his First Amendment case. + + The U.S. District Court in Alexandria threw the case out, saying +there were other ways to settle the matter besides a lawsuit. The 4th U.S. +Circuit Court of Appeals agreed, but the U.S. Supreme court overturned them +both and ordered a hearing. + + As the July 1989 trial began, Bryant asked for a delay because a key +witness -- a supervisor who allegedly was out to get him because he was "an +embarrassment" -- was on assignment in Antartica. The court proceeded without +the witness, ruled in favor of the government, and this appeal followed. + + To Judge Francis Murnaghan Jr.'s inquiries about the proof of UFOs, +Bryant's lawyer, James Heller of Washington contended Bryant had a First +Amendment right to seek answers to "unknown events." + + "Why wouldn't he be an embarrassment" if he's following "a theory for +which no scientific basis has been found?" Murnaghan asked. + + Judge Dickson Phillips Jr., also wondered why Bryant couldn't "get +his supervisors off his back ... without getting into the First Amendment +jurisprudence? + + "If the ax really drops on him, then he can sue," Phillips said. + Heller said Bryant fears that without the protection of an +injunction, he'll be fired. Since Bryant sued, all his evaluations have been +top-notch, Heller said. + + In answer to a question, Koppel also noted that the offending +evaluation wasn't even in the file, because they are automatically thrown out +after three years. + + Phillips, apparently convinced the revelation made the case legally +worthless, asked Koppel "Why didn't the Supreme Court look at mootness? They +put two courts to a lot of trouble for a moot case." + + A decision is expected in about 60 days. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2910.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2910.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..af024387 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2910.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +SUBJECT: CIA POSITION ON UFOs FILE: UFO2910 + + + + +Sat 3 Oct 92 2:41 +By: Don Allen +To: All +Re: CIA position on UFO's? +** Forwarded from Usenet ** + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Article 8923 of alt.alien.visitors: +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +From: crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu +Subject: What Do You Think? +Message-ID: <1992Sep29.173457.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> +Lines: 37 +Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System) +Nntp-Posting-Host: gold.colorado.edu +Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder +Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:34:57 GMT +Lines: 37 + +I'm going to quote an ex-CIA official because I would like very much +to see what people on the net think of his views. + +This is by Victor Marchetti, former Executive Assistant to the Deputy Director +and Special Assistant to the Executive Director of the CIA. It appeared +as *How the CIA views the UFO Phenomenon,* in SECOND LOOK, Vol.1. No.7, +Washington DC, May 1979, pp. 2-7. + +He says ....*we have, indeed, been contacted...by extraterrestrial beings, +and the U.S. government, in collusion with the other national powers of the +earth, is determined to keep this information from the general public. +The purpose of the international conspiracy is to maintain a workable stability +among the nations of the world and for them, in turn, to retain institutional +control over their respective populations. Thus, for these governments to +admit that there are beings from outer space...with mentalities and +technological +capabilities obviously far superior to ours, could, once fully perceived +by the average person, erode the foundations of the earth's traditional +power structure. Political and legal systems, religions, economic and +social institutions could all soon become meaningless in the mind of the +public. The national oligarchical establishments, even civilization as we +now know it, could collapse into anarchy. Such extreme conclusions are not +necessaril7y valid, but they probably accurately reflect the fears of the +*ruling classes* of the major nations, whose leaders (particularly those +in the intelligence business) have always advocated excessive governmental +secrecy as being necessary to preserve *national security.** + +That's the quote. + +So there it all is, the worst fears, even down to the collapse of civilization +as we know it. What I'm wondering is, what do people think about this now? +WOULD the mass of people go completely ape if it was established that UFOs +and Visitors are real? I can't quite make up my mind. Let's have some +discussion on this and see what peoples's views are. + +Regards, Lou Crago + + +** End of article ** + +Don + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2911.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2911.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6d4aed13 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2911.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@ +SUBJECT: UFOs AND THE COAST GUARD FILE: UFO2911 + + + + +US Department Commandant Washington, DC 20593 +of Transportation United States Coast Guard Staff Symbol G-OIS-4 + Phone 202/267-1493 +United States +Coast Guard + 5262 + FOIA 88-271 + 7 June 1988 + +Major Ret. Colman S. VonKevicsky, MMSE +Director of Project +Intercontinental UFO Galactic + Spacecraft Research and Analytic + Network +35-40 75th Street, Suite 4G +Jackson Heights, NY 11372 + +Dear Major VonKevicsky: + +This is in response to your letter of April 22, 1988 regarding the +declassification of Coast Guard records regarding Unidentified Flying +Objects operations around our coastal waters. + +There are no records responsive to your request. This is not a refusal to +disclose information but rather is notification that there is no information to +disclose. + + Sincerely, + + + M. D. SMITH + Chief Yeoman, US Coast Guard + Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts + Coordinator + Office of Law Enforcement and Defense + Operations + By direction of the Commandant + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2912.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2912.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8ebd98b2 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2912.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +SUBJECT: SAMPLE LETTER TO CONGRESS FILE: UFO2912 + + + + +Sample Letter to Congressional Representatives +Taken from: MUFON UFO Journal, November 1992. + +(MUFON UFO Journal, Number 295, November 1992, Copyright 1992 by the +Mutual UFO Network, 103 Oldtowne Rd., Sequin, Texas 78155, published +monthly with a membership/subscription rate of $25/yr.) + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Hon. _____________________ +U.S. House of Representatives (or Senate) +Washington, DC 20515 (or 20510) + +Dear Rep. (or Sen.) _________________: + + As your constituent, I am writing to request a clarification +of the U.S. Government's current position concerning events which +occurred in and around Roswell, New Mexico, in July 1947. + + According to newspaper accounts and eyewitness reports, a +local rancher, William W. Brazel, discovered pieces of debris +from an object which crashed on the property he managed outside +Corona, on or about July 2, 1947. He brought some of this +material to the attention of Chaves County Sheriff George Wilcox, +who called the Roswell Army Air Field. The base Intelligence +Officer, Sheridan Cavitt, went to the ranch to inspect the +material. + + They discovered a great deal of lightweight debris which +couldn't be cut, burned, or even dented with a sledgehammer. On +orders from the base commander, Col. William Blanchard, the +Public Information Officer, Walter G. Haut, issued a news release +that the Army Air Force had recovered a "flying disc." Some of +the debris was flown to Fort Worth, Texas where the Commander of +the Eighth Air Force, Gen. Roger Ramey, identified the material +for the press as the remains of a weather balloon and its radar +target. + + However, subsequent investigation has raised considerable +doubt about the weather balloon explanation. For example: + + - According to his son and neighbors, Brazel was held +incommunicado by officials at the Roswell base for nearly a week, +questioned extensively and ordered not to say anything about his +experience; however, in a newspaper interview, he said that the +material he recovered "did not in any way resemble a weather +balloon," many of which he had recovered on his property. + + - Sheriff Wilcox, to whom Brazel initially reported finding +the debris, also was ordered by the military not to say anything, +but members of his family say that not only did he see debris at +the crash site -- he also saw four "space beings," one of whom +was alive. Moreover, his granddaughter, Barbara Dugger, was told +by her grandmother, Inez Wilcox, that the entire family was +threatened with death by the military if they discussed the +incident. + + - The former manager of KGFL Radio in Roswell, Jud Roberts, +says the station was threatened with loss of its license by +government officials in Washington, DC, if it broadcast the story +about the "flying saucer." In addition, according to Lydia +Sleppy, a secretary of KOAT Radio in Albuquerque, a wire +transmission of the news story on the event was interrupted by a +message something like: "CEASE TRANSMISSION. NATIONAL SECURITY +ITEM." + + - According to Brig. Gen. Thomas J. DuBose (USAF, ret.), +who was Gen. Ramey's Chief of Staff, Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, +the Deputy and Acting Commander, Strategic Air Command, at +Andrews Army Air Field, ordered that some of the debris recovered +on the ranch be brought directly to him in Washington. Gen. +DuBose says officials at the Headquarters of the Eighth Air Force +were directed to tell the press that the material was from a +weather balloon radar target, and that the weather balloon +explanation was a "cover story" to divert the attention of the +press. + + - The pilot who transported some of the wreckage, Oliver W. +Henderson, said he saw the bodies of alien beings at the Roswell +base, according to his widow, Sappho Henderson, his daughter, +Mary Kathryn Groode, and his friend, John Kromschroeder. + + - A mortician who worked for the funeral home in Roswell, +Glenn Dennis, says an Army nurse friend told him about +participating in the autopsies of three alien bodies at the base. + + Therefore, I am formally requesting that you seek to +determine whether the highly unusual material recovered near +Corona was from a "flying disc," a weather balloon, or something +else. + + Please advise me, at your earliest opportunity, of the +United States Government's current position on the nature of the +material recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, in July 1947, and +its current explanation for all official actions taken with +respect to this event. + +Sincerely, + + +__________________ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2913.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2913.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..015072d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2913.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +SUBJECT: 1966 CONGRESS REASSURED FILE: UFO2913 + + + + + Article #: 9 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 06-17-1986 + Subject: 1966 CONGRESS REASSURED + +SOURCE: AP (WASHINGTON, DC) + DATE: 06 APRIL 1966 + + +CONGRESS REASSURED ON SPACE VISITS + +Secretary of the Air Force Dr. Harold Brown assured the House Armed Services +Committee yesterday there was no evidence that the earth had been visited by +strangers from outer space. Dr. Brown said almost all of the 10,147 +unidentified flying objects reported in the last 19 years were easily +explained, including the recent Michigan sightings, as marsh gases, pranks, +planets, comets, meteors, fireballs, and auroral streamers. But, he said, "the +Air Force has an open mind" and would continue to investigate all reports." + +PHOTOGRAPH: Dr. Harold Brown + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2914.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2914.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7c954f27 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2914.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@ +SUBJECT: THE GUARDIAN FILE: UFO2914 + + + + + +The Four-week series: Conspiracy 3: UFOs + +04/10/93 + +THE GUARDIAN + +IT IS estimated that five million Americans have sighted flying +saucers. This is almost as many as have seen Elvis since he died. +Either way, it is an impressive figure and bears testament to the +fact that UFOs have been visiting earth for centuries, often, it is +said, to warn us of our follies. Rumours persist that the last +attempt at such a mercy mission was when the M25 was in the late +planning stages. However, the aliens got stuck in traffic coming +round their own version of the motorway near Saturn, and were too +late to warn us. That governments worldwide publicly deny this and +other sightings, is, say UFOlogists, due to a massive global +conspiracy. + +Theories as to why this should be range from the blackmail of +world leaders by intergalactic powers to not wanting to campaign on +the "Let's make friends with the alien" ticket. More plausible is a +theory that is as curious as it is sinister. When pressed, high +ranking officials of many countries admit to dismissing UFO +sightings purely as a way of keeping crackpot theorists everywhere +harmlessly watching the skies for joy-riding Venusians. + +The reasoning is that no government would want an army of +endlessly patient obsessives rumaging though its dirty laundry for +a new conspiracy to call their own. These same officials will also +admit to taking kickbacks from The Weekly World News and the Sunday +Sport. One official corroboration of the existence of UFOs would +destroy their circulations overnight. + +Such an admission would also be a loss to cult film makers and +school pranksters the world over. UFO "sightings" are still the +most fun you can have with a dustbin lid and a camera. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2915.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2915.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6d4b982c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2915.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON FOO FIGHTERS FILE: UFO2915 + + + + + +Date: 06-18-91 22:48 +From: Jim Sanders + +This message was in the Aviation Conference. It is similar to The "Foo +Fighters" that were reported over Europe near the end of World War II. +Thought I would post it so that you may want to question Paul further. Jim +------------------------------- +From: PAUL ELSHOFF +Read: (N/A) Subj: FOO FIGHTERS +Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE +Conf: AVIATION (9) +Read Type: GENERAL (+) + +Anyone else out there ever run into one of these animals? I had my "close +encounter" in the early 70's while flying in the area of Windsor Ontario. It +was a small (about basketball sized) ball of light that seemed to fly +formation with me for a while off my starboard wingtip, then cirled the plane +a couple of times before leaving VERY rapidly for parts unknown in a nearly +vertical climb. During the time it was near me, my radios went out, my nav +and cabin lights dimmed, my compass decided it wanted to be a top, and the +engine got really rough. One it left, everything came back to normal. ATC +showed nothing but yours truly in the area on radar, and the weather boys +said it was unlikely to have been an atmospheric phenomenon. Nobody has ever +come up with a logical explanation, and I'm starting to believe in haunted +Cessna 172's! + +I've heard some of the WW II bomber jockeys had similar sightings, and since +it seems some of the guys on here are of "the class of '45", I figured just +maybe...... + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2916.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2916.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..986f858d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2916.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@ +SUBJECT: 1944 NEW GERMAN WEAPONS FILE: UFO2916 + + + + + + Article #: 21 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 07-26-1986 + Subject: 1944 NEW GERMAN WEAPONS + +SOURCE: NEW YORK TIMES + DATE: DECEMBER 14, 1944 +SYSTEM: CUFON Computer UFO Network + +Floating Mystery Ball Is New German Weapon + +SUPREME HEADQUARTERS, Allied Expeditionary Force, Dec. 13-A new German +weapon has made its appearance on the western air front. It was disclosed +today. + +Airmen of the American Aif Force report that they are encountering silver +colored spheres in the air over German territory. The spheres are encoun- +tered either singly or in clusters. Sometimes they are semi-translucent. + + ------------------------------ + +SUPREME HEADQUARTERS Dec. 13 ( Reuter ) - The Germans have produced a "secret" +weapon in keeping with the Christmas season. + +The new device, apparently an air defense weapon resembles the huge glass balls +that adorn Christmas trees. There was no information available as to whatholds +them up like stars in the sky, what is in them or what their purpose is +supposed to be. + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2917.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2917.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4d43870a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2917.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +SUBJECT: UFOs FORM CROSS OVER JERUSALEM FILE: UFO2917 + + + +BY SAM MARTIN for SUN + + + +God's messengers deliver threat of world destruction. + +The spectacular appearance of a huge crucifix in the sky over Jerusalems is a +warning to the world the God is displeased, according to international Bible +experts and religious leaders. + +The cross as a formation of a dozen alien spaceships. Christain experts claim +the awesome event was predicted in both the Old and New testaments. + +"This is one of the signs promised before the end of the world," says Jousef +Hadi, patraiarch of an old Coptic Christian church in Jerusalem. "Those flying +crafts were piloted by messengers of God. + +"They were following His wishes by delivering the threat of global +destruction. The cataclysm will be carried out unless all nations lay down +their arms and embrace their brothers."' + +'God anry' + +Jousef says the UFOs appeared in the shape of a flying cross to assure +earthlings the mission has a religious significance. Other experts echo the +belief. + +"It is God's warning foretold by the prophets in the Old Testament, and by +Christ and Revelations in the New Testament," says Father David Lachmed at the +Jesuit seminary outside Jerusalem. + +"God is angry about the rivers of blood that are flooding the world. He has +put us on notice that the fate of the planet is in our hands." + +The appearance of the cross so close to Eater increases its significance and +its importance, the leaders say. + +'Hallucination' + +Their warnings came after the governments of Israel, Jordan and Iraq confirmed +the sudden appearance of glowing golden orbs above the Holy City at dusk one +evening. + +Previously, all three governments had insisted the sighting was a mass +hallucination and that the hundreds of photos taken were fakes. + +The cross sthat hovered about 12,000 feet over Jerusalem was approximately +1,500 feet long and 600 feet wide. The dazzling display was seen by thousands +of observers for several hours from various locations in Jordan and northern +Iraq as well as in Israel. + +Aron al-Fahad, a shop keeper in Jericho, claims he watched the manifestation +for almost three hours. + +He says it was clearly a formation of UFOs, adding: "You could see each +individual ship, especially after the sun went down." + +Lawrence Carney, a British engineer, says he too could identify circular +spaceships. + +"Many flashing lights circled the rims and ran along the undersides," he says. + +But American tourist Francis Kellogg and at least 1,000 locals and other +visitors claim the hovering forms were actually angels. + +Photographed + +Many say they heard a heavenly voice repeating chapter one, verse tow from The +Second Letter from Peter in the New Testament, including: + +You will do well to pay attention to it, because it is a lamp shining in a +dark place... +Patriarch Hadi agrees with the angel faction. + +"God has sent His heavenly messengers as He has so many times before," Hadi +says. + +Photos taken by two American tourists and examined by SUN photo experts +support the UFO theory. + +However, Jewish and Muslim leaders are adamant that the sighting was neither +supernatural nor extraterrestrial. + +"Would Allah use a Christian symbol, the cross, to warn us of His +displeasure?" asks Mufti Rashid Rahman. + +Rabbi Lev Ginzberg believes the manifestation was caused by atmospheric +conditions, pollution and a sand storm raging in the Negev Desert. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2918.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2918.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..31d036db --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2918.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,912 @@ + +SUBJECT: UPDATE/SITUATION REPORT FOR 1988 BY W. ENGLISH FILE: UFO2918 + + + + + by William S. English + + + DEDICATION + + I would like very much to dedicate this to the late Jim and + Corral Lorenzen, founders and pioneers in the field of UFO Studies + and Aerial Phenomena, and to all the men and women who, over the + years have risked so much to gather the evidence and reports that + have made this field both controversial and necessary. + + INTRODUCTION + + During the past three to four decades there have been a + continual stream of reported sightings of Unidentified Flying + Objects, alleged abductions of human-beings by aliens, contact of + human-beings by aliens, animal and human mutilations by alien- + beings, alien bases, and rumors of alien invasion. + In addition to the questions that these things alone bring up, + there are also the added questions of religious and moral ethics. + Was god in fact an alien-being, or was christ constructed by the + aliens as a bio-genetic/social experiment? If this is in fact the + case, what effect will it have upon the social structure of our + world and our race as human-beings? Will we as humans band + together as one ? Or will we fall to pieces and destroy one + another ? Most importantly, we must ask the question :"what are + we as humans prepared to do in the event that all of this is true + or partially true? + + Bearing all of this in mind, we will explore the possibilities + and offer up some interesting speculations into these and other + questions that we will review and discuss throughout this + document. + + Part One + + In 1976, while working as a Data Analyst for the United + States Department of Defence Security Services Command at RAF + Chicksands, England. I had the task of analyzing a copy of what + was entitled Grudge/Blue Book Report #13. + Ostensively the government published Blue Book Reports #1 through + 12 and 14 on to the last report, but claims that it in fact never + published a report numbered 13. One of the many excuses given by + the Air Force was that there was never a number 13 because of + superstitions about the number. One of the many arguments against + this excuse is that the government had never before cared one wit + for superstition, and why should they all of a sudden do so now??? + Several years went by with this being the pat excuse until June + of 1977, when the report came across my disk at Security Services + with a disposition order to read and analyze. + The report was an annotated version, with photographs and + various scientific data reports on findings of research that was + contained within the publication. Among the photographs were + several of Aliens that were being autopsied and some that appeared + to be alive. Much of the data it contained dealt with the autopsy + findings and a great deal of technological data. Much of the + technological data dealt with the research performed on the + recovered vehicles or space craft and there was some mention of + animal and human mutilation, with the report of several incidents. + + This in itself wouldn't mean a great deal, were it not for the + fact that during the past twelve years there have been several + attempts on my life. These attempts, I believe, have been in + order to keep me quiet about what I saw. Shortly after my viewing + of the documents I was, without warning, released under duress + from my job and deported from the country without even being able + to say good-bye to my wife and children, who remained in England, + and who are still there to this day. + + + MY BEGINNING ASSOCIATION WITH APRO + + + For the record, and also to clear up certain rumors that have + been flying around for the past several years the following + details certain circumstances that took place from 1977 to 1981. + I add this since I am the focal point for several of the nasty + rumors that have been flying concerning my validity and the + validity of my reported viewing of Grudge/Blue Book Report #13. + + Very shortly after my forced return to the United States and my + subsequent return to Tucson Arizona. I had the occasion to be + present at Pima Community College for a lecture that was being + given by Stanton Friedman, on the subject of UFOs. Because of my + personal experiences it is understandable that I would be + extremely interested in the lecture, thus my presence. + + + + During the course of Stanton's lecture I found that there were + certain things he said that I wasn't to terribly impressed with. + Not, mind you, because he was a bad speaker, on the contrary, he + was an excellent speaker. But more because the information that he + was imparting was inaccurate, based on what I at the time knew to + be true. One point did come up during the course of his speech + that struck home. His comment that Blue Book Report #13 did not + exist. I knew this to be a fallacy as I had read the report + several months previously, and at the end of his lecture I + approached him and told him so. During the next several hours, + Stanton Friedman, Jim Lorenzen, and Allen Benz grilled me + extensively at the APRO offices while recording the entire + session. Allen Benz, now the president of the Foundation for UFO + Research in Tucson will verify this fact. + During the interview I imparted everything that I could + possibly remember concerning the incident and then left, not to + return for several months. + I remember this period of my life extremely well as I was + approaching my first christmas without my family and shortly after + that my twenty-fifth birthday. Which for some reason was extremely + traumatic for me. In short, it was one of the worst years of my + life. I had been forcefully separated from my family, and had + very little communication with them. I was reaching an age when + most men had a home, family, and all of the mundane problems that + go along with it, and I wanted very much to have a piece of the + same thing. I was extremely confused because I didn't know or + understand why all of this had happened to me. I came very close + to committing suicide that year, so my recollection of it is very + clear. + It wasn't until several months later that I began to realize + just exactly what was happening, and as a result I began to seek + out answers. Occasionally I would stop by the APRO offices and + talk with Christine Panter, the secretary that worked there, and + go digging through the files trying to learn everything that I + could on the subject of UFOs. + While contending with my own problems of trying to find the + answers as to why I had lost my family, and slowly discovering + that the government was in fact responsible for everything, I was + inadvertently fighting for my own life. On several occasions, + without realizing the true cause of it, I began to experience a + series of potentially fatal accidents and the loss of several + extremely good jobs. On one occasion my apartment caught fire, + destroying everything that I had, and killing a pet hamster. At + the time the fire started, I would have normally been asleep as it + was my usual habit to stay up until the early hours of the morning + working on various projects for a small leather business I was in + the process of starting. That day however, I was spending the + night with a friend, taking care of work that he had offered me at + his home. A lucky circumstance? I suppose it would have been + except the Tucson Fire Department determined that it was arson. + On one other occasion I was driving to Sierra Vista, Arizona, + on the back of my motorcycle, to visit with my father at his + office. While driving down Interstate 10, a big black limo (a + continental I believe) began pacing me at the edge of town, and + followed me almost the whole distance until there was no traffic + for several miles in either direction, whereupon it began trying + to force me off of the road by pulling up beside me and in front + of me. In this case I was extremely lucky and was able to ride + into the desert where the car was unable to follow. On the return + trip, my father followed me closely in his car to make sure that + it didn't happen again. Over the years that have been over 15 + attempts on my life, the most recent being in December of 1988. + + THE TROUBLE WITH APRO/BILL ENGLISH THE GOVERNMENT AGENT + + It was over a period of four years that this continued off and + on. During all of this, Allen Benz and myself became friends and + on occasion I would do some work for APRO and at the same time + help myself financially when the opportunity arose. One such + occasion resulted in my having to travel to Los Angeles to act as + consultant and representative of APRO for Barry & Enwright + Productions. Barry & Enwright were in the process of Producing a + pilot program for television entitled "Strange as it Seems." This + was to be their answer to the then popular program, "That's + Incredible." Unknown to me at the time, they had also contacted + Dr. J. Allen Hynek of the Center For UFO studies, and who's name + figured so prominently in the Grudge/Blue Book Report #13, as it + was he who had also read the report and stated that although he + had not seen the evidence first hand, felt that everything in the + report was true. + Dr. Hynek and I sat in the green room for the better part of an + hour while waiting for our appearance on the stage, and I asked + him about the report and why it was that he and the government + denied it's existence. At first he tried to tell me that I didn't + know what I was talking about, and told me not to bother him. It + wasn't until I became angry and told him that I had seen report + #13 and analyzed it for the government while working for Air Force + Security Services in England, and that his signed initials and + signature was all over the damned thing, so not to even try + denying it to me. that he finally admitted to it's existence. + But, he also said that he would never admit to it publicly, and + would call me a liar should I try to get him involved in anything. + I asked him the standard question ;"why me? Why was I the one to + have to analyze it and lose everything? His answer...."Somebody + had to do it" + Very shortly after this, Allen Benz and myself became + embroiled in an internal conflict with APRO which resulted in + several law suits. Contrary to the belief that Coral Lorenzen + would have had people believe at the time, we were not government + agents, and we were not trying to take control of APRO. + During the course of his duties as APRO Librarian, Allen + discovered that the organization was in serious danger of losing + it's non-profit status and that the then listed board of directors + were in danger of losing considerably more than that if APRO were + ever sued. When Allen approached Jim and Coral Lorenzen with this + problem he was completely ignored. After it became apparent to + him what the situation was he came to me. + + After carefully reviewing the documents and the records of APRO, + we discovered that the organization was in fact in violation of + the non-profit status as there had not been an election of new + board members for over a period of five years, and that the annual + report that was required by the Arizona State Corporation + Commission had not been filed for an even longer time. This + clearly was a violation and APRO technically had lost it's non- + profit status. At that point, if APRO were ever sued by anyone, + anyone at all, the members of the listed Board, under which, APRO + continued to operate would have been held personally liable and + any and all of their personal assets could have been forfeit + should a suit gone against them. + It was because of this, and the fact that the Lorenzen's + refused to take any action on the matter, that Allen and I decided + to push the issue and force a vote of a new board of directors. + With this in mind, Allen and I began to send out proxy forms to + the general membership to force a board election. It was never + our intention to take control of APRO, but rather try and force + the organization and the Lorenzen's to meet the regulations as set + down by the ASCC so that there could not be any repercussions on + the governing body. Unfortunately we got beat at our own game. + Unknown to us Jim had gone to the Post Master in Tucson and + managed to convince him to route all of the Proxy forms back to + him rather than to Allen and myself as they had been addressed. + When it came time for the meeting Jim voted the proxies that he + had in his position and we were left with egg on our faces. Not + content with that, Coral then started publishing defamatory + statements in the APRO News letter concerning Allen and myself, + saying that I was an agent of the government who's only purpose + was to destroy APRO, and claiming that Allen was duped by me, + which in turn forced us to seek legal counsel and bring suit + against them for slander. I was unable to continue with the suit + as other problems arose at that time that forced me to leave Allen + pretty much taking care of the whole thing and shouldering the + financial burden as well. In the interim, Allen's lawyer + apparently got them to retract their statements under the threat + of suit, but at the same time Coral then got one of her cronies in + California to file suit against Allen and I in a California court. + All of this was unknown to me at the time as I was then on the + run. Additional details of what took place after that are with + Allen Benz. + + I GO ON THE LAM + + While all of this was going on there were other matters taking + place that I had to deal with. Most notably that of Col.Robert + Black, and his former Operations Sgt. from RAF Chicksands. + Apparently, shortly after my forced departure, they to were forced + to leave under pretty much the same circumstances. Some how or + other they were able to locate me and we, after much suspicious + repartee, agreed to take a serious look at the situations that had + arisen. Black had gotten information that some where along the + edge of the White Sands Missile Test Range there was an alien craft + that had been buried because it was simply to big to transport. + We didn't know at the time whether or not it was true, but being + the fools that we were, we decided to check it out. I sold my + business and the others put up their share of the money to + purchase a van and have it specially equipped with such things as + ground radar (marine radar system for private boats), + magnetometers, gravitometers, sound detectors, and infrared + sensoring devices. We also carried in the van metal detectors, + water, food and camping equipment. + After linking up with them in Belen New Mexico, we traveled in + the van around the entire perimeter of the Test range, going up to + the Trinity Atomic Test Site and working our way down to + Alamogordo, New Mexico, where we then entered through the White + Sands National Monument late in the evening. We proceeded to the + northern most boundary of the monument where we then entered the + test range. We had been on the range approximately an hour and a + half at the time. I was outside of the van, about 500 to 1,000 + meters in front, with a metal detector checking to see if I + couldn't find any kind of metallic object that would give any + indication as to the possible finding of the alien craft. We did + this as some of the information Black had, indicated that the + craft had crashed somewhat closer to Holloman Air Force Base than + any other place. + As I was walking in front of the van, Black and the Sergeant + were riding in it, following me with the headlights on so that I + wouldn't step on anything without seeing it first. It was here + that I heard a familiar sound that instinctively made me scream + incoming and hit the dirt face first without even thinking. It + was an incoming rocket that hit the van, blowing it up and killing + the two of them. There can be no mistake that they were killed as + there was absolutely nothing left of the van except debris. At + this point, after assessing the situation quickly, I took off in a + westerly direction, not wanting to be next on the hit parade. For + the next several days I avoided helicopters and what appeared to + be search parties, traveling only at night until I made it off the + range and onto a highway, where I hitched hiked back to Tucson, + and ultimately to the home of Wendelle Stevens. + When I arrived at Wendelle's I told him everything that had + taken place and then got him to drive me to a girl friend's house + where he dropped me off a couple of blocks away. It was then that + I determined that they, whoever they were, knew who I was and + where I was at. It was time to disappear. + To accomplish this, I began by breaking off my relationship + with my girl friend at the time, and moving to a small trailer on + the west side of town, where I then packed all of my belongings or + sold them off. I then, after a period of several days took a bus + to Phoenix, where I arranged to have myself arrested by the + phoenix police on some outstanding traffic tickets, and put in the + Phoenix municipal jail. I then paid the fines and returned to + Tucson, by private car. I was establishing a trail at this point + in order to throw off anyone that might be following or trying to + trace me. Within twelve hours of arriving back in Tucson, I took + a back-pack with clothing and limited food supplies and struck out + across the desert toward San Diego. Traveling at night and + sleeping during the heat of the day. When I arrived in San Diego + I then made my way up the coastal highway toward Los Angeles, + stopping at the camping sites along the way that are available by + the California Parks and Recreation Department. + When I arrived in Los Angeles I then spent the night in a + shelter for street people and then the next day looked for a + better situation in which to live for a while. I found it in the + form of an establishment called Hudson House. Which I must say + was an inspired stroke of genius on my part as it was most likely + the one place that no one would think to look for me. Hudson + House was and I suppose still is a halfway house for gays trying + to make it away from their families. And I must say, much to + their credit, for those who are not gay but are in need of help. + As I'm not gay and had made no bones about the fact that I was + extremely heterosexual, I felt that this was the one place no one + would think to look for me. I was right. After finding a job at + one of the many local restaurants in the Hollywood area, I lived + there for a three month period, where upon I then contacted my + mother who by this time had retired to a farm outside of + Lynchburg, Virginia, and then moved on to Virginia, where I spend + a year working on the farm for her and then moving into town where + I began working over a seven year period at various radio and + television stations as an announcer and cameraman. + + From this point on, until my re-emergence into the public eye + in Sept of 1988, there is not a great deal to tell other than on + two occasions I was once again made aware of how precarious my + position was when someone unloaded several thousand rounds of + machine gun fire into the home I was living at in a small town in + Virginia, and when some one tried to run over me on the streets of + Lynchburg. Twice! + + I COME OUT OF HIDING + + In July of 1988, I received a rather nasty note from my father + saying that a John Lear had contacted his office about me. He + said in the note that he had not told him anything about me nor + where I was at and left it up to me to decide whether or not I + wanted to contact Mr. Lear. I did nothing for about a month and a + half. And at that point I had no intention of doing anything at + all. Then one night, while working at the radio station I was + employed at, a news clipping from the ABC pre-feed wire service + came to my attention. It was a statement by Walt Andrus that + there were in fact Aliens from space on the planet earth. This + surprised me greatly as I felt that it was extremely out of + character for some one of Walt's renown and status within the UFO + investigative community. After giving it much thought I decided + to place one call to Wendelle Stevens, who I had not spoken to + since my disappearance. + Wendelle, needless to say, was extremely surprised to hear from + me as he assumed that I was dead. I asked Wendelle to keep my + where abouts private for the moment, and he offered to send me a + copy of Bill Steinman's book "UFO Crash at Aztec", where, he said, + I played a fairly large part in one of the appendixes. + Several days later I received the book from Wendelle and sat + down to read what was said. At that point I wasn't quite sure + what to think, but decided that perhaps it would be a good idea to + come back out in the open in order to test the waters. + + I then contacted John Lear, posing as an Attorney representing + "Mr. English's interest", in order to find out what it was John + wanted with me. After talking with John for a few minutes I hung + up and began to consider the possibilities and what to do about + it. After several more weeks I then contacted John and he + ultimately came to see me in Virginia, where we Discussed + Grudge/Blue Book Report #13. + + The UFO Legend + + "In the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day + of the month, as I was among the exiles by the river Che'bar, the + heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God." + "As I looked, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, and + a great cloud, with brightness round about it, and fire flashing + forth continually, and in the midst of the fire, as it were + gleaming bronze. And from the midst of it came the likeness of + four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the + form of men, but each had four faces, and each of them had four + wings. Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet were + like the sole of a calf's foot; and they sparkled liked burnished + bronze. Under their wings on their four sides they had human + hands. And the four had their faces and their wings thus: their + wings touched one another; they went everyone forward, without + turning as they went. As for the likeness of their faces, each had + the face of a man in front; the four had the face of a lion on the + right side, the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and + the four had the face of an eagle at the back. Such were their + faces. And their wings were spread out above; each creature had + two wings, each of which touched the wing of another, while two + covered their bodies. And each went straight forward; where ever + the spirit would go, they went, without turning as they went. In + the midst of the living creatures there was something that looked + like burning coals of fire, like torches moving to and fro among + the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire + went forth lightning. And the living creatures darted to and fro, + like a flash of lightning + Now, as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel upon + the earth beside the living creatures, one for the each of the + four of them. As for the appearance of the wheels and their + construction: their appearance was like the gleaming of a + chrysolite; and the four had the same likeness, their construction + being as it were a wheel within a wheel. When they went, they went + in any of their four directions without turning as they went. The + four wheels had rims and they had spokes; and their rims were full + of eyes round about...(Ezek 1:1-18) + And Ezekiel saw the wheel...and this is the wheel that he + saw....It seems interesting that Ezekiel's description of his + vision of god and the angels fit almost exactly with the + descriptions that many modern day individuals give when describing + UFO sightings. There are differences of course in language, + however this description seems to be fairly easy to interpret. + At the risk of alienating those of you who are fervent + christians, what Ezekiel described was a UFO. + If one were to look closely at the legends of the various + civilizations they would see that throughout recorded history, + there has been a constant flow of UFO sighting. Or at least let us + speculate such for the sake of argument for right now. + The legend of Flying Saucers or UFO's seems to have been + perpetuated down through the ages in one form or another, but + always leaving open many questions that seem to have no answers. + + One such perpetrator was author "Eric Von Daniken", who wrote + his series of books based on speculations concerning ancient South + American artifacts and ruins. Von Daniken wrote that based on + these artifacts and ancient writings that seemed to be without + translation, that there was the possibility that ancient + astronauts in fact visited the earth before recorded history and + that it was these astronauts that were in fact worshipped as gods + by the ancient humans. + This is of course a very basic summation of what Von Daniken + was trying to postulate in his work, and it would have been a + theory that could have opened new areas of research were it not + for the fact that Von Daniken himself stated later that his work + was not factual and was not researched as he would have had + everyone believe that it was. + + It was unfortunate that this was in fact the case, as Von + Daniken's work did in fact cause several people to speculate on + the possibilities that we had in fact been visited in the past by + alien races. + + + But! At the same time, let me ask the question...Why not?? Why + is it so difficult for us to accept the possibilities of this + having in fact happened? + + EXAMPLE + + Let us take for granted, for the moment, that all legend is + based on some sort of fact. And that although legend loses in the + translation from the original language, and certain aspects of it + change through the ages, for the most part the legend is true. + + Now let us examine one legend in particular, which is probably + the most persistent through the ages...The Lost Civilization of + Atlantis. + + The legend states that Atlantis was a civilization far advanced + for it's time and even for our time. The legend itself is the + stuff that movies have been made of, and speaks of wondrous + technologies that make the technology of today look pale by + comparison. As far as we have been able to determine, the legend + of Atlantis had been handed down from Socrates and the ancient + Greeks. But the tale of Atlantis was in fact an ancient legend, + even in the time of Socrates. + + Let us examine another possibility ... The Pyramids of Ancient + Egypt. + For the most part, the construction of the ancient ruins of + Egypt can be explained in fairly conventional terms, there are + however certain aspects that cannot be explained. Let us examine + Cheops Pyramid. + + Records indicate that in construction time, most pyramids were + started at the time the Pharaoh came to the throne of the Egyptian + Empire, which at the time was considerable for the ancient world. + Egypt being a moving force in the ancient world, and remaining at + the pinnacle until the rise of the Roman Empire. Most Pharaohs + personally supervised the construction of their final resting + place, believing that the quality their life in the next world + would depend on how sumptuous their funerary arrangements were. + Of Course being the ruler of an Empire made it possible for them + to spare no expense, and in many cases the expense exceeded the + entire amount of money that it would take to run their Kingdom for + ten years or more. It was not uncommon for millions of dollars and + thousands of lives to be spent during the construction of royal + tombs. + Bearing this in mind, records indicate that Cheops Pyramid or + the great pyramid as it is now referred to, was begun well into the + rule of the Pharaoh Cheops and was completed well before his + death. Yet it is one of the largest and most perfect of ancient + structures. Another point to consider among others is that the + sand-stone used in it's construction was several hundred miles + away from the pyramid site and was transported down the Nile River + one block at a time. Also the fitting of each block of the + construction was so perfect that even today it is impossible to + even fit a piece of paper between each block. And finally, the + fact that during the construction of the great pyramid it remained + in a perfect square at it's base with less than 1/2 inch + deviation. Something that's very difficult, even by using today's + construction methods. + + Add all of this to the fact that the ancient Egyptian Book of + the Dead gave very specific instructions as to the preservation of + the body with the view toward eventual resuscitation of the living + body and the reunion of the spirit with the body. Most ancient + religions talk of life after death in some form or another, but + none speak of life returning to the body and none other has taken + such pains in preservation of the physical remains, using + techniques that even today have not been duplicated in even the + best of laboratories. + + Remembering all of this, let us ask the following questions: + + 1.) Why has ancient legend persistently told stories of wondrous + technological advances that we have yet to discover, and speak of + them as though they were and accomplished fact of life for that + time.? + + 2.) Why do many legends of the past seem to have the same ring of + familiarity in that they all seem to contain the same elements and + those elements all have a ring of truth. (whether its because of + repetition or some other reason) + + Answers?? + + At this point there are no answers to the questions, and for + the most part we as researchers and investigators aren't even sure + of what questions to ask. + + + MODERN LEGENDS + + During the past twelve years, (since 1977), there have been a + number of modern legends that we can trace back to their source. + We are fortunate that we can trace them back to their origins as it + then makes it possible to investigate them thoroughly. And I must + admit that I am the perpetrator of at least one of those legends. + Which I will go into further in a few moments. + + One of the most prevalent of these legends beside the + Grudge/Blue Book Report #13 is the Dulce Report of Paul Bennewitz. + + Bennewitz originally reported that he had been able to identify + a secret alien base through the investigation of an abduction case + that involved a woman and her son. During the course of his + investigation he apparently was contacted by aliens and given all + kinds of information. This in itself cannot be placed among the + classification of cold hard evidence, but one interesting point is + that during the course of his investigation of the woman and her + son certain evidence came to light that more or less set the UFO + investigative world on its ear. + The subject was hypnotically regressed by Dr. Leo Sprinkle of + Illinois University. During the course of the regression the + subject recounted how her and her son were traveling home on a + lonely highway in the Southwest when they came across what she + described as a cattle mutilation. Specifically they witnessed a + calf being mutilated. As they observed what was taking place, + they were seen and ultimately taken captive themselves. + The subject related how she and her son were taken in separate + vehicles to what she assumed was an underground installation. + + While in the installation, the subject related how she was + subjected to a physical examination and questioning by the aliens. + who she described as being small, about four feet in height, and + she was questioned extensively. During the course of all of this + she apparently broke away from her captors and ran aimlessly down + several corridors until she came to a room that had a rather + pungent odor. She described it's contents to Dr. Sprinkle, and + told him of seeing a vat in the middle of the room. It was from + this that the odor was coming from. She described how when she + came closer to the vat she saw what appeared to be the body parts + of a human male floating in an amber liquid. She went on to + describe how she was found and the consternation her presence in + the room caused the aliens. Apparently, shortly there after, she + and her son were returned to her car without any conscious memory + of their experience. + It was this, coupled with his supposed contacts with the aliens + that caused Bennewitz to initially send a report to the Aerial + Phenomena Research Organization detailing his experiences and + contacts with the Aliens. During the course of all of this it was + initially thought that Bennewitz was himself, not all together + there. In point of fact shortly there after, Bennewitz was + involuntarily committed to the New Mexico State Hospital for the + mentally ill, where he was forced to undergo treatment for an + undetermined mental disorder. He was in fact involuntarily + committed a total of three times, where finally on the third time + it is reported that he underwent electro-shock therapy. + When Bennewitz was finally discharged from the hospital he + became a recluse from the UFO investigative field, publicly + stating that he would no longer have anything to do with UFO's and + that he suggested that all of those involved in this field of + research should also get out and let the government do the work + that they are more knowledgeable in. In short, he was saying that + the government knew what they were doing and we should stay out of + it. + + + If this were all there was to it then there would be no further + investigation into the reports that Bennewitz filed. However, as + time passed, more and more evidence came to light that proved + Bennewitz was not insane and that there was some substance to + everything that he had been saying all along. + Another modern day legend is that of myself and my Viewing of + Grudge/Blue Book Report #13, of which your already aware. + + A New Ally + + Once again, time has proven to be an ally in that evidence has + come to light over the past several years, that has substantiated + everything that I initially said about my viewing of Report #13. + In addition, one other person, William M. Cooper, formerly of the + United States Naval Intelligence section, CINCPAC, has come + forward and admitted viewing an earlier version of the Grudge/Blue + Book Report #13. + With the exception of some minor differences that are + explainable by the fact that the copy I saw was an annotated + version, Mr. Cooper's and my comparison match almost perfectly. + And I might add that Bill Cooper and I were talking about all of + this long before we knew that either existed. + While Cooper saw his version of the documents in the early + seventies while working with the Pacific Fleet, I saw my version + of the very same documents while in the employ of the U.S. Air + Force Security Services Command at RAF Chicksands in England in + the mid-seventies. I, however, was the first to speak out + publicly when I attended a lecture given by one Stanton Friedman, + a nuclear scientist, who at the time was devoted to finding the + truth about UFOs and the possible implications of their existence. + I might add at this point, that over the years certain others have + claimed to have seen these same documents, but have in fact been + nothing more than dupes of certain dis-information specialist that + are under the employ of the U.S. Government. + + PART TWO + + THE CURRENT UFO STATUS + + + Currently there are several factions within the investigative + community. One is the UFO and government involvement faction,the + others are, UFOs and Mutilations, UFOs and Abductions, UFOs and + Alien presence, and UFOs and Metaphysical phenomenon. + Of the five, UFOs and Government involvement, and UFOs and + Alien Presence are the two most heated factions at the moment. + Sort of them verses the rest of the Investigative Community. + + AT PRESENT + + At present the factions concerning government involvement and + alien presence are fighting it out to see who comes out on top. + Government involvement while acceding the fact the government is + involved in some sort of cover-up will not come to any kind of + agreement with Alien Presence, saying that the Alien Presence + faction is alarmist and lacks solid evidence to prove their + claims. The Alien Presence faction on the other hand, claims that + the Government Involvement faction is in the employ of the + Government itself and therefore they are working to hide the fact + that there are indeed alien bases on earth and in the United + States, and that the government had at one point entered into a + treaty with these aliens, allowing them to commit atrocities + against the populace of the United States, to have and occupy + secret bases in exchange for technological information and data. + The Government faction on the other hand, once again admits to the + possibility of the government covering up Alien Craft and that + type of thing, refuses to believe or accept the possibility of + Alien Bases. Which would seem to be cutting off their noses to + spite their face. How can you have one without the other??? + + The rest of the factions tend to look at their particular + philosophy as the true discipline and ignore all the others. + + A CLOSER LOOK + + Let us take a closer look at one particular section of each + faction and see if it is not possible to make a clear as mud + situation a little muddier. + + During the past ten years, Bill Moore has publicly stated that + he believes that I have been lying all along about my viewing of + Grudge/Blue Book Report #13. On one occasion that I know of, he + told two engineers from Aerojet Corporation that I admitted to him + that I and Gerry Schultz were doing LSD when we wrote my report on + Viewing Report 13. Aside from the fact that it was an out and lie + and I never admitted any such thing to him, Gerry Schultz and I + were certainly never together long enough to do anything other + than him ask me questions while I was digging through files at the + APRO offices. And for the record I categoricly deny the use of + any drug other than those perscribed by my doctor. And since I + have developed a phobia about medications very rarely do I even do + that. + To add insult to injury, Moore then had the brass balls to + produce that piece of shit television program of his called "UFO + Cover up", and have his two song birds, Falcon and Condor, parrot + everything that I had been saying since 1977. If I'm a liar,then + I ask the question of what does this make him?? + It seems pretty odd that Moore would say these things about me, + and then in the next breath repeat everything that I have been + saying for over ten years as though it were facts that he alone + discovered. I don't know about you, but it's would seem pretty + inconsistant with everything that he's been saying. And even were + I not in the position that I am in, I'd raise an eyebrow or two in + question. + + On the other side of the coin there is John Lear, Bill Cooper, + Paul Bennewitz, and a host of others, including myself who are of + the firm belief that there is in fact an Alien presence here on + earth, and that it has been covered up for some time. + In all fairness though, let me point out that Moore and company + has come up with some interesting documents that appear to show + the existence of an organization known as MJ-12. But at the same + time, he claims that Bill Cooper's research and data on MJ-12 is + fraudulent and fabricated, and that Cooper doesn't know what he's + talking about. Inconsistancy after inconsistancy.... + + EXAMPLE + + Lear, Cooper, and Bennewitz (most notably Lear and Cooper) have + evidence that ties together everything they are saying with other + evidence from different sources. + In the later part of June of 1977, I reviewed and analysed the + document now known as the Grudge/Blue Book Report #13. In this + report I viewed several hundred photographs, reports, incidents, + and comments made by certain individuals who had themselve in turn + read the report. At that time I had no knowledge what so ever of + Bill Cooper, and he had no knowledge of Bill English. + Bill Cooper on the other hand, had read his version of + Grudge/Blue Book Report #13 four years previously. Without us + knowing one another, nor having ever been in contact until 1988, + the information that we both had matched almost exactly with a few + certain exceptions. And those exceptions can be accounted for in + that the version I read, was annotated and contained + additional information that Cooper's did not. + Additionaly, even though neither of us have been able to + produce the document itself, other information and records have + come to light that upholds the voracity of our claim. But rather + than leave it there, research investigators from around the + country, who have dealt with the nuts and bolts of investigation, + have come up with sighting data, and most particularly Close + encounter data that strengthens our position. + + + Paul Bennewitz of Albuequerque, New Mexico, can no longer be + tagged as a nut case as he was originally, for the simple fact + that upon investigations performed as recently as this year,other + sources who were present at the time of his experiences, have + verified and confirmed everything that he has said. + + With regard to Alien Bases and occupation, I offer for your + consideration the following. + + In May of 1980, Dr. Leo Sprinkle, renown pyscotherapist, and + professor at Illinois State University, hypnotically regressed one + Myrna Hanson, a bank teller of Eagle Nest, New Mexico. + Hanson and her son were driving home one night along the + highway between Roswell(?) and Eagles Nest, New Mexico, when she + and her son, who was riding with her came upon what she later + discribed to Sprinkle during their regression session, as the + brightest light that she had ever seen. Apparently she stopped + the car and heard what sounded like a cow screaming in agony. + Hanson then discribed how she got out of the car and saw what + appeared to be several little men surrounding the cow and using + instruments of some type to mutilate it. Sprinkle's original + notes of the session go on to discribe how she reacted and what + she discribed seeing. In her discription she detailed how she and + her son were taken aboard separate craft and then taken to some + sort of base. During the course of the examination and insertion + of some sort of metallic object she managed at one point to break + away from her captors and ran down several halls until she came to + a room. In the room she discribed seeing what appeared to be some + sort of a vat filled with an amber liquid. As she came to the vat + she saw what she discribed as the body parts of a human male + floating in the liquid. When her captors finally found her they + were extremely upset and took her back to the examination room + where they completed whatever it was they were doing, and then + returned her and her son to the car where they were captured. + There is of course a great deal more to the story, but the + crux of the matter is that her discription of what see saw matches + perfectly with countless other incidents that have taken place + over the years, and supports the claims that have made by both + myself and Bill Cooper. + + In short, the evidence is there if one cares to examine it and + then colate it against other evidence. Oddly enough, this seems + to be the one thing that Moore and company has refused to do, + saying that there is no need, because none of it is true. + Frankly I am astounded at this attitude. For all intent and + purpose it has become apparent that if these individuals are not + in the employ of the government, their only interest in UFO + investigation is the monetary return that it can offer them + because of the interest of the general public. + I agree that some measures must be taken in order to + financually support active research and investigation, but not at + the expense of fooling the people and ignoring the true facts of + what is happening around us. + + This is remincent of the British Priminister, Harold MacMillum + going to Munich to get a peace agreement with Hitler and coming + home to tell everyone that there is nothing to fear. The germans + want peace and there will be peace in our time. That peacelasted + over four years and cost thousands of lives... + I ask where Bill Moore's evidence is....so far he has done + nothing more than spout retoric but hasn't even bothered to + present even a comparison of data or circumstances that will at + least open the door to more questions or discussion. + + MORAL AND RELIGIOUS IMPLICATIONS + + Let us assume for the moment that everything that Cooper,Lear, + Bennewitz, and English have been saying is true. Then let us + assume that the Aliens have in fact been present here on earth + since before the beginning of our recorded history. If you think + about Ezekiel and the wheel that he saw, then it's not that + difficult. + Several factions, the metaphysical in particular, have stated + that there is evidence indicating that the Aliens constructed a + being, either human or whatever, and placed him here on the earth. + And that this being was named Jesus Christ. + Then let us examine the Old Testament versus the New Testament + bible. The Old Testament Bible speaks of a vengeful god and the + New Testament speaks of a forgiving god. Frankly I lay no claim + to being a theologian. But there are others within the + investigative community that indicate there is in fact evidence + that the Aliens have been conducting bio-genetic experimentation + on humans, and also there is indication on a more practical level + that the ever popular "Grey Aliens" are in fact biological + constructs that serve as the work force of a higher order of Alien + Beings. + If this is true, then why is it so difficult to believe in the + other possibilities??? + + Once again let us assume that it is true. + + SCENARIO + + Evidence has come to light that proves the Aliens have in fact + been on earth since before the beginning of recorded history. + Further evidence has come to light that shows in fact the Aliens + were influencing the social and religious developement of mankind + and posing as a higher being, or God. Additional evidence shows + that Jesus Christ was placed on earth by a different faction of + Alien Beings. + + RESULTS? + + Everything that mankind has believed for the past six thousand + years is nothing, therefore there is no god and the word of god as + it is written in the books and laws of the major religions of the + world is a false dogma handed down by beings from another planet. + + Aside from the fact that mankind had been betrayed for over six + thousand years, the laws and moral codes that have governed him as + a race are going to be looked upon as lies. It doesn't matter + that those laws and codes were ultimately responsiable for his + developement into what we refer to as modern civilization. + Additionaly the panic and anarchy that would result from such a + discovery would for the most part do one of two things. It would + either distroy us as a race, or it would finally break down the + barriers that have developed between us as humans and draw us + together. Which it would be, is undeterminable until such time + that it happens. + With regard to moral codes and values...It would be evident + that the moral codes we as a race had lived with through the ages, + would have been those of a different race of beings and not our + own. Would we accept them once again as ours, or would we + fall into chaos trying to reestablish a code more suited to our + own needs as human beings? And would those codes be far different + from what we had originally lived with? + + CONCLUSIONS + + The first and most obvious conclusion that we must make is that + there are no real answers at this point in time. The next + conclusion that must be made, is that we have barely even started + to learn what questions we must ask. This must be accepted before + anything else can be accomplished. For the first thirty years of + UFO investigation, we have slowly and painstakingly gathered + evidence, reports, and sighting information not really knowing + why, but doing so because of our nature as human-beings. + + To what purpose?? + + It is evident that we as investigators must now come together + and create a situation that gives complete access to documentation + and information. We must set a policy as to review of information + and public awareness, and ultimately action concerning release of + such information.We must review the implications and the reactions + to the release of said information, and it's effect on the general + public. + + At this point I would also point out that there is a better + than average chance that the public might handle it better than + the government would give it credit. Due in part to the efforts + of the government, as it would seem that the government for the + past thirty years has made every effort it can to desensitise the + general public. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2919.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2919.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..75a0b645 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2919.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,399 @@ + +SUBJECT: THISISIT COOPER'S FINAL VERSION FILE: UFO2919 + + + + +Sun 22 Nov 92 1:16 +By: Don Allen +To: All +Re: thisisit +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +We'll jump ahead of "mugger.doc" "Picnic2.doc" , and go right to +"thisisit".doc for Cooper's *final* version. + +-------------------------------------------------------------------- + +DISCLOSURE OF THIS INFORMATION IS AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT AND +PRESERVE THE +CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE GROUP KNOWN AS +MAJESTIC +TWELVE HAS ENGAGED IN A VILE CONSPIRACY THAT HAS IGNORED THE LAW OF +THE LAND +AND THE PRINCIPLES OF FREEDOM THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS FOUNDED +UPON. THEY +HAVE TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO INSTITUTE UNLAWFUL AND DANGEROUS +PROJECTS +WHICH HAS ENDANGERED THE NATION AND THE HUMAN RACE. THE DISCLOSURE +GROUP +CONSISTS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SWORN TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT T E +CONSTITUTION +OF THE UNITED STATES. WE HOPE AND PRAY THAT THIS DISCLOSURE WILL +ENCOURAGE +OTHERS CONNECTED WITH THIS CONSPIRACY TO MAKE SIMILAR DISCLOSURES. +WE ASK +THAT THIS STATEMENT REMAIN ATTACHED TO THIS INFORMATION. WE SEEK +NO REWARD OR +PUBLIC ACCLAIM. WE ONLY SEEK TO EXPOSE THIS ACT AS A CRIMINAL +ASSUALT UPON +THE UNITED STATES AND THE HUMAN RACE. + +MAJESTIC TWELVE (PROWORD) MAJIC + +MAJESTIC TWELVE, MAJESTIC 12, MAJESTIC-12, MJ-12, MAJIC, are all +forms of the +code name for the control group authorized by President Truman on +09/24/47. +The Director of the Central Intelligenge Agency (CIA) is the +Director of +Majestic Twelve, MJ-1. The control group was formed to oversee a +TOP SECRET +Research and Development & Intelligence Operation and was +responsible only to +the President. The need for this group was dictated by the finding +of a +downed FLYING SAUCER scattered over 2 sites near the town of +Roswell New +Mexico in July 1947. The dead bodys of 4 very small human like +ALIENS were +also found. MAJESTIC TWELVE is the most highly classified secret +in the +United States and its existance has never been divulged to +Congress. The +funds for MJ-12 and Aquarius are CIA confidential (non-appropriated). + +DOCUMENTS +MAJESTIC TWELVE documents can be identified by the following; + +TOP SECRET/MAJIC/RESTRICTED DATA EYES ONLY COPY___OF___ TOP +SECRET/MAJIC/RESTRICTED EYES ONLY COPY___OF___ TOP +SECRET/MAJIC +EYES ONLY COPY___OF___ + +One of the above will appear both at the top and bottom of each +page. You +will never see one version in a document along with any other +version. Also +on each page will appear; T52-EXEMPT (E) or just EXEMPT. T52 is the +publication outlining procedures for automatic downgrade of all +security +classifications and the time period for declassification of each +security +level. This information is never to be declassified. Each page of +each +document will be numbered consecutively and the number of pages +will appear +upon the cover sheet. Copys of MAJESTIC TWELVE beyond the original +number +are forbidden. + +PROJECTS under MAJESTIC TWELVE +The operations listed here were current as late as 1976 with absolute +certainty and are still operational to the best of our knowledge. +The names +of the original operations were changed several times over the +years and +eventually evolved into those listed. + +PROJECT SIGN (PROWORD) MAJIC +The first project under MAJESTIC TWELVE. The mission of project +sign was +essentially the same as that which PROJECT AQUARIUS evolved into. +PROJECT +SIGN referred to aliens as Extraterrestrial Biological Entities. +The reasons +for the absorbtion of PROJECT SIGN by PROJECT AQUARIUS were mainly +of a +political and security nature. PROJECT AQUARIUS stripped the Air +Force and +Army Generals of their historic control of the UFO/IAC projects and +placed +most of it under the Intelligence umbrella. + +PROJECT AQUARIUS (PROWORD) MAJIC +Established in 1953 by President Eisenhower under control of MJ-12 +and PROJECT +SIGN. The Project contains all information collected by the United +States +since it began investigating UFO's (Unidentified Flying Objects) +and IAC's +(Identified Alien Craft). At the time we saw this information it +existed in +approximately 15 or 16 volumes. This project became an independent +project +when PROJECT SIGN was eliminated in 1960. PROJECT AQUARIUS referred +to aliens +as Alien Life Forms. The mission of PROJECT AQUARIUS was to gather +all +scientific, technological, medical, and intelligence information +from UFO & +IAC sightings and contacts with Alien Life Forms. The information +was to be +used in the space program. + +PROJECT SIGMA (PROWORD) AQUARIUS +Established in 1954 as part of PROJECT SIGN. The mission of PROJECT +SIGMA was +to establish communication with the aliens. First communication was +established in 1959 through binary computer language. On April 25, +1964 a USAF +(OSI) officer met with aliens at a prearranged desert location in +New Mexico. +Information was exchanged and a basic understanding was reached +after several +hours. It was learned through this effort that several species of +alien +life existed. Communication was eventually established with all of +them. +Through communications it was determined that 3 catagorys existed. +The three +catagorys are MALEVOLENT (DANGEROUS), BENEVOLENT (GOOD-HELPFUL), +and NEUTRAL +(OBSERVERS ONLY) The project has been extremely successful. + +PROJECT PLATO (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1960 after the +United States +established communications with the aliens. The mission of PROJECT +PLATO was +to establ ish diplomatic re lations with the aliens. Project Plato +made +agreements in order to prevent hostilitys between the United States +and the +aliens. An agreement was made with the MALEVOLENT aliens whereby +they could +abduct humans. The purpose of these abductions were to provide +blood and +other biological fluids as food for the aliens. The aliens agreed +to furnish a +list periodically to MJ-12 of the names of those abducted. PROJECT +PLATO took +whatever steps neccessary to prevent public disclosure. + + +* PROJECT PLUTO (PROWORD) AQUARIUS +Established in 1947 after the Roswell incident. The mission of +PROJECT PLUTO +was to recover all crashed or downed alien craft, to recover all +evidence of +alien presence or technology, and to recover all alien bodies +(alive or dead). +PROJECT PLUTO developed cover stories to satisfy press and civilian +curiosity. +PROJECT PLUTO was authorized use of deadly force and/or relocation +to insure +secrecy. PROJECT PLUTO was responsible for and biological +intelligence of the +Alien Life Forms. + +PROJECT POUNCE (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1968. The +mission of +PROJECT POUNCE was to evaluate all UFO/IAC information pertaining +to space +technology. The goal was to duplicate the technology and/or +improve upon it. +Ultimate use of the technology would establish the United States as +the +dominate world power and close the gap in any confrontation with +the aliens. + +PROJECT REDLIGHT (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1954. The +mission +REDLIGHT was to test a recovered alien craft. The mission was +accomplished in +part only. PROJECT REDLIGHT was terminated in 1963 after every +(flyable) +recovered craft exploded during test flights. There were no +survivors among +the human test pilots. + +PROJECT SNOWBIRD (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1972. The +mission of +PROJECT SNOWBIRD was to test fly a recovered alien craft. The +project was on +going the last time I saw this information. + +PROJECT ???????? (PROWORD) AQUARIUS (NOTE...We are recall the name +of this +project nor have we been able to get response from anyone on it. +At the time +we saw the information the project was ongoing. It cannot be +determined if +this project is still in existence.) The mission of this project +was to +develop a low frequency pulsed sound generator. The energy +produced from this +generator was to be concentrated so that it could be aimed and used +as a +weapon in order to destroy the alien craft and beam weapons. The +alien beam +weapons were described as ange but able to incapacitate or destroy +any weapons +system known to date (1972). The aliens also possess a beam weapon +which is +described as being able to paralyse any human within range. Tests +were +described as having shown that the alien craft and weapons were +extremely +sensitive to low frequency pulsed sound waves. This weapon was to +be used to +incapacitate the alien defenses in order to allow PROJECT EXCALIBUR +to succeed +in its mission. The initial technology used in this project was +capture the +Germans during WW- II. The German sound generators were described +as being +able to knock down reinforced concrete buildings and shatter 4" +thick armour +from a great range. This technology is believed to further +substantiate that +Germany had recovered alien craft and had possibly had some +dealings with the +aliens prior to or during WW-II. Documents captured during and +after WW-II +indicated that an alien craft had been recovered by Germany in +1939. A German +built flying saucer was captured dur last few months of WW-II. + +PROJECT EXCALIBUR (PROWORD) AQUARIUS Established in 1972. The +mission of +PROJECT EXCALIBUR is to develop a weapons system capable of +destroying the +alien underground base after the alien beam weapons have been +incapacitated or +destroyed. The alien underground base is located beneath an indian +reservation near the small town of Dulce, New Mexico. The device +must be +capable of penetrating 1,000 meters of tufa / hard pack soil and +sustain no +operational damage. This typ is commonly found in New Mexico where +the alien +base is located. Missile apogee must not exceed 30,000 feet AGL. +Impact +deviation will now exceed 50 meters. The device will carry a 1 +megaton +warhead. + +PROJECT BLUE BOOK A U.S. Air Force project establiahed to determine +whether +UFO's pose a threat to the security of the United States and to +determine +whether UFO's exhibit any unique scientific information or advanced +technology +which could contribute to scientific or technical research. +PROJECT was +successful in its primary mission outlined above. PROJECT BLUE +BOOK was not +quite so successful in its secondary mission which was to publicly +explain +away the UFO phenomenon as natural or known phenomenon in order to +eleminate +public interest. To completely fulfill the secondary mission it +was decided +that an outside commission of distinguished scientists would be +convened in +order to permanantly lay the issue to rest. After this 'study' was +completed +(Condon Commission) the Air Force state the continuation of Project +Blue Book +cannot be justified, either on the ground of national security or +in the +interest of science. PROJECT BLUE BOOK was abandoned and its +mission and +information was consolidated under PROJECT AQUARIUS in 1969. + +SCIENTIFIC STUDY OF UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS Contracted to the +University +of Colorado in 1966 and Chaired by Dr. Edward U. Condon. The +results of the +panel were dictated before the first meeting. Despite objections +of the other +panel members, Dr. Cond le to fulfill the mission. The general +conclusion was +that "nothing has come from the study of UFOs in the past 21 years +that has +added to scientific knowledge." A panel from the National Academy +of Sciences +agreed. The press and the public were satisfied. Except for a hard +core +element of UFO believers the issue died in the public forum. + +OPERATION UFO (NSA OPERATION IN SUPPORT OF PROJECT PLUTO) The +mission of +Operation UFO was to form intelligence teams versed in all of the +knowledge +learned which would be the first on scene of any UFO crash site in +order to +secure the technology and prevent it from falling into foreign +hands. Several +teams existed over the world. The United States was specifically +concerned +that it did not fall into Soviet hands. This mission was to be +accomplished +no matter the country of occurrance. Many subsequent ALIEN CRAFT +recoverys +would occur in foreign countrys as well as the United States. UFO +was also +used to recover downed space hardware (especially So d to recover +nuclear +weapons which became lost (usually by accident). + +OPERATION MOONDUST (SUPPORTED SPACE PROGRAM & UFO) The mission of +Operation +Moondust was to provide a cover which would neutralize public +curiosity while +recovery of an ALIEN CRAFT was being conducted. The teams that +made up the +compliment of Moondust were the same teams that made up UFO. +Moondust was made +public and its mission (to the public) was to identify and recover +United +States space hardware which might fall to earth. s a bonified +mission when +circumstances dictated. + +OPERATION BLUEFLY (SUPPORTED UFO & MOONDUST) The mission of +operation Bluefly +was to provide QUICK REACTION COMBAT TEAMS known as ALPHA teams +(fight for +technology if neccessary), mechanical and technological support in +recovery, +rapid and secure transport to secure storage and examination areas. + There are +several of these storage and examination areas in order to limit +distance +traveled and thus limit the possible chance of an accident that cou +e cargo to +public knowledge. Several teams existed over the world. Recovery +and +transport of both EBEs (dead or alive) and Alien craft were +accomplished. +Bluefly was also utilized in event of recovery of space objects (of +terrestrial origin), and event of recovery of lost nuclear weapons +(usually +due to accident). + + +NOTE....This account of the history and current status of MAJESTIC +TWELVE and +the Alien Life Forms has been kept brief. We believe that the +intent, however, +has been served with th on provided. The whole story would fill +several +hundred volumes. We realize that even with the combined effort of +several +memorys we have probably made some mistakes. We have tried to +minimize the +mistakes and feel that what is represented is true and correct to +the best of +our combined knowledge. + + +** End of file ** + +Don + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2920.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2920.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6e277b83 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2920.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,173 @@ +SUBJECT: COOPER GETS STRANGE PHONE CALLS FILE: UFO2920 + + + + +In the last few days I have received E-mail and phone calls +that are unusual to say the least. The most significant ones +follow. + +(1) I have received a message via E-MAIL that I believe is +very important. As I have a policy of never revealing +sources (thats why I have sources) I will not reveal the +identity of the sender. The following was included in the +message. + +"Our goals are more-or-less the same: An educated public. +Each of us has something of value to contribute. Each of us +has others cheering us on. I am sorry that we had to meet +this way." + +"I too have been in uniform. I too have soiled my underwear +in fear. I never digraced my uniform. NEVER." + +"In time I am sure that we will meet. You will then see that +my heart was in the right place." + +When I received the message of which the above was a part, I +sent a reply. I asked him to tell me what his interest in +this subject was. I asked who he worked for, what his job +was, etc. I told him my address and phone number. I asked +him to give me any information he might have concerning the +subject of the MAJIC files. I told him that we all needed to +come together on this. I then told him that if he were in a +sensitive position and could not furnish any of the info +requested that I would understand. He sent the following +reply to my message. + +"Bill, thank you; for your kindness and understanding." + +"We all need each other. We cannot stand alone. Each of us +must contribute to the common-good, so that each of us, and +our species, will survive." + +"Thank you," + +(NAME WILL NOT BE GIVEN) + + +I also received a phone call from this same person. The call +was was very innocent, HOWEVER, he mentioned several times +that the board and the phone was not the place to talk. He +mentioned meeting at some later date. When and where I do +not know. I did not press him for any info or anything else +as I wish to gain his confidence. + +I have no idea if the name he sent the message under is his +real name or not. I have no idea what he knows if anything. +The messages he left and the phone call are PREGNANT with +possibilities and if he ever contacts me for a meeting I will +meet with him. + + +(2) I have received two threatening calls from an unknown +source. The first call went as follows. + +Bill--- Hello + +Caller--- Is your name Bill Cooper? + +Bill--- Yes + +Caller--- Would you like to end up in an asylum? + +Bill--- Who is this? + +Caller--- IF you continue your activities you will meet me + sooner than you think. + +Bill--- Who are you? + +Caller--- You should know who I am. + +Bill--- I will not talk to you if you don't tell me who you + are. + +Caller--- HUNG UP THE PHONE + + + +(3) The second call went as follows. + +Bill--- Hello + +Caller--- Is this Bill? + +Bill--- Yes. + +Caller--- You are in over your head. + +Bill--- Who are you? + +Caller--- It doesn't matter you are in over your head. HUNG + UP THE PHONE. + + + + +(3) I talked to Christopher again and he denied ever seeing + the original document or any document. He said he heard + that the document had lightning bolts striking at the + bottom of the rocket. When I pressed him he could not + remember seeing the document and stated that he could + not remember where he heard it. In fact the graphic + does have lightning bolts striking at the bottom of the + rocket. I do not believe him at all. He called me and + had me call him back COLLECT to clarify the matter. + Thats how important it was to him. He now says that he + saw my file with his first name in it and does not + remember why he thought it important. He said that he + WAS HAPPY THAT I WAS WELL AND THAT NOTHING HAD HAPPENED + TO ME. WHEN I SAID GOODBYE HE WISHED ME LONG LIFE AND + GOOD HEALTH. + + + +(4) I received this call from an anonymous caller. + +Bill--- Hello + +Caller--- Bill....Is this Bill? + +Bill--- Yes this is Bill. + +Caller--- I can't talk much. I called to tell you that you + are wrong about the alien base. + +Bill--- Talk to me, tell me what you can. + +Caller--- LUNA is the name of the base on the FAR SIDE OF THE + MOON. + +Bill--- How do you know? + +Caller--- Never mind that, LUNA is the name of the base on + the FAR SIDE OF THE MOON. + +Bill--- Can you elaborate, can you tell me anything else? + +Caller--- The earth base is called DREAMLAND. + +Bill--- How do you know this? + +Caller--- Never mind. I will try to contact you by a safer + method. HUNG UP + + + +I do not know what these calls mean if they mean anything. I +do think it is significant that the information is getting +out. I will let you judge the content of the calls. + +The threats do not worry me as I know that the powers that be +will not give me any warning if they really plan on doing +anything to me. If they are trying to scare me they cannot +do it. Since Vietnam nothing much scares me at all. + +Bill Cooper + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2921.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2921.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5af024ee --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2921.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,164 @@ + +SUBJECT: PROBING THE SECRETS OF NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE FILE: UFO2921 + + + +Date: 12-28-89 00:40 +PROBING THE SECRETS OF NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE +By Steve Douglass + If you are ever on Highway 6, just outside of the little +town of Tonopah, Nevada, and you can brave the heat, the +rattlesnakes, and the isolation of the desert, get out of your +car and wait. If you are patient enough you just might be amazed +by what you'll see. + At first you'll only hear it, a high-pitched whining sound +in the distance. Risking eye damage, you squint into the desert +glare trying to locate the source of the sound. Suddenly you'll +see it. It's an ominous-looking aircraft, perfectly flat on the +bottom, pyramidal on the top. + Roaring across the high desert with its twin tail and swept +back wings, it looks like a large black swallow. As it gets +closer, you'll feel the urge to duck down among the lizards and +the cacti. Such action is meaningless, though, for if you can +see it, it can see you. So just stand and watch the Nighthawk go +through its paces. + Since the beginning of the year, the F-117A Nighthawk +stealth fighter has been engaged in daylight training missions +from its secret base in Nevada. Still considered off limits to +the press and public, the security forces at the base take a dim +view of prying eyes. However, once in a while the Nighthawk must +leave its protective nest. + It is on these rare occasions, when the Nighthawk is not +surrounded by razor wire, patrolling dogs or security teams, that +is when you might catch the F-117A strutting its stuff. + The secret Tonopah base is part of the Nellis Air Force Base +military operations area. This secret range, which covers a +large portion of south central Nevada, is the home of the Air +Force's top secret proving grounds. Edwards Air Force Base was +once the premier testing center but now is considered too public +to test top secret stealth aircraft. The F-117 base on the +northwest corner of Nellis is remote and removed from all but the +most determined. + The F-117A Nighthawk is the official name of the stealth +fighter bu those who fly it have nicknamed it "The Wobbly +Goblin." At slow speeds, the fighter is apparently hard to +handle, hence, the odd title. Another term for the aircraft is +"the sacred airplane" because when people see it for the first +time they usually remark "Oh my God!" + A total of 49 are thought to be based on the Tonopah range, +also known as Mellon Strip. The secret base, located in Area 30 +on the Nellis range, consists of 72 nuclear hardened, specially +built hangers for these secret aircraft. + The pilots who fly the F-117 are members of a new elite +unit, the 445th Tactical Group. Most of the pilots first flew F- +111 Aardvarks or have Wild Weasel experience. The special unit, +known as "Team One-Furtim Vigilans" (vigilant by stealth) became +operational in 1983. + Becuase of the secret nature of their missions, the pilots +are not allowed to acknowledge to civilian air traffic +controllers what type of craft they are flying. If asked, they +are to say they are an A-7 Corsair. + Team One squadron is not the only squadron flying strange- +looking aircraft on the Tonopah range. The 447th test and +evaluation squadron, the Red Eagles, is based there as well. The +Red Eagles fly authentic Soviet fighters. Captured in +Afghanistan and turned over to the U.S., Mig 17s, 19s, 21s, 23s, +25s, 27s and Sukhoi Su20 Fighters are flown regularly in Nellis' +Red Flag war games. + Occuring almost every eight weeks, the Red Flag exercises +are conducted in much the same way as the Navy's Top Gun school +is used to train USAF pilots in dissimilar air combat tactics. +What better way to train than against real Soviet fighters? To +add to the realism, the Nellis range even is dotted with real +Soviet air defense radars and SAMS (surface to air missiles) to +give training pilots the feel of the real thing. + There is yet another secret base located in the middle of +Nellis. Groom Lake, in an area called Dreamland, is known to be +the test base of the mysterious Aurora and the F-19 stealth +fighter. The Aurora, the stealth replacement for the SR-71 +Blackbird and the F-19, the stealth replacement for the F-15 +Eagle, is said to be flying from the Watertown Strip. + Teh Air Force has reportedly been testing the two top secret +aircraft in Dreamland, Area 51, since 1980. (The SR-71 Blackbird +was test flown in complete secrecy.) Other aircraft likely to be +test flown from Dreamland in the near future are prototypes for +the ATF (Advanced Tactical Fighter), the Phalanx Dragon, a +stealth helicopter killer, and the A-12 (Navy Advanced Tactical +Aircraft), a replacement for the A-6 intruder. + Although the bulk of stealth aircraft operations seem to be +centered around Nevada, it is said that stealth aircraft have +been seen at other bases as well. Last April the USAF said the +F-117A would be used at bases nationwide to help integrate thge +stealth technology within the rest of the Air Force inventory. +The F-117A has been seen flying near Yuma, Arizona; Edwards AFB +in Calfiornia, and Kadena AFB in Okinawa. + Recently it was rumored that F-117s are being stationed at +the recently opened Roswell Air Force Base in New Mexico. The +Roswell strip was constructed originally for heavy bombers during +WWII and Vietnam but closed in the late sixties. Residents of th +area report that strange aircraft are once again slying out of +the base. The White Sands missile range is not far from Roswell +and the F-117A may be using the range to test the stealth cruise +missile, General Dynamics AGM-129. + Another black aircraft program by General Dynamics known +only as Project 100 is even more secret ahtn all other stealth +programs. Little is known about the project except that it is +thought to be test flying out of Holliman AFB near Alamagordo, +New Mexico, and only at night. A military radio net has been +heard on various frequencies in the Holloman area (see frequency +list) and it may be the testing of the Project 100 aircraft. + MONITORING + Trying to monitor the secret air force is nearly as hard as +catching a glimpse of them. Best bets are the HF and UHF +frequencies of the flight test bases and aircraft manufacturers. +Also, a good place to monitor would be SAC and TAC frequencies. +Another good place to listen is air traffic control centers near +test areas. + So get cracking, heat up your set, and maybe you'll be the +first to monitor the top secret Aurora and F-19! + FREQUENCIES + HOLLOMAN AFB, ALAMAGORDO, NEW MEXICO +Approach 324.3 MHz UHF +Departure 255.9 MHz UHF + Holloman flight test net/White Sands +Primary 260.8 MHz UHF +Secondary 264.9 MHz UHF + Other UHF frequencies monitored +397.9, 353.6, 364.2, 376.1, 189.4, and 251.1 +HF link 9.023 MHz USB +SATCOM links mentioned 262.925 MHz uplink; 297.525 downlink +Call signs heard: Sierra Papa, Sierra Pete, Ringmaster, +Battlestaff, Guardian Papa, Dark Star, Dark Star Oscar + ROSWELL AIR FIELD, NEW MEXICO +Approach 239.6 MHz UHF +Tower 272.7 MHz UHF + Military Net +Primary 305.6 MHz UHF +Secondary 397.9 MHz UHF + Other frequencies monitored +259.2, 305.6, 348.7 + NELLIS AFB, NEVADA +Approach 279.7 MHz UHF +Tower 324.3 MHz UHF +Ground control 275.8 MHz UHF +Clearance Delivery 289.4 MHz UHF +ATIS 270.1 MHz UHF + Nellis Military Operations Area +Dreamland base 255.8 MHz UHF +Sally corridor 343.0 MHz UHF +Groom Lake approach 361.3 MHz UHF +Watertown Strip approach 297.65 MHz UHF + EDWARDS AFB, CALIFORNIA +Tower 269.9 MHz UHF +Edwards command post + (Conform) 304.0 MHz UHF +Edwards VHF ground + control 121.8 Mhz UHF +Edwards approach 318.1 MHz UHF +================================================================= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2922.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2922.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d4ee9f4f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2922.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,187 @@ + +SUBJECT: GOVT ADDRESSES - WHERE TO WRITE FILE: UFO2922 + + + + +Message number 4917 in "MUFONET: MUFON Member's Worldwide" +Date: 03-05-93 00:18 +From: Don Allen +To: All +Subj: Govt Addresses - Where to write + +** Forwarded from Usenet ** + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- + + +Article 10740 of misc.activism.progressive: +Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive +From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel) +Subject: Clinton/Admin addresses +Message-ID: <1993Feb17.061530.18552@mont.cs.missouri.edu> +Followup-To: alt.activism.d +Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu +Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu +Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu +Organization: PACH +Distribution: usa +Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 06:15:30 GMT +Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu + +/** justice.usa: 473.0 **/ +** Topic: Clinton/ Admin Addresses ** +** Written 12:18 pm Feb 16, 1993 by newsdesk in cdp:justice.usa ** +From: News Desk +Subject: Clinton/ Admin Addresses + +/* Written 11:01 pm Feb 8, 1993 by bm@bike2work.Eng.Sun.COM in +igc:alt.activism */ +/* ---------- "Govt Contact Info" ---------- */ + +President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore +The White House +Washington D.C., 20500 +(202) 456-1111 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Mike Espy +Secretary of Agriculture +14th Street and Independence +Avenue S.W. +Washington D.C., 20250 +(202) 720-2791 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Ronald H. Brown +Secretary of Commerce +14th Street and Constitution +Avenue N.W. +Washington D.C., 20230 +(202) 482-2000 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Les Aspin +Secretary of Defense +The Pentagon +Washington D.C., 20301 +{703) 697-5737 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Richard W. Riley +Secretary of Education +400 Maryland Ave. S.W. +Washington D.C., 20202 +(202) 401-1576 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Hazel R. O'Leary +Secretary of Energy +1000 Independence Ave. S.W. +Washington D.C., 20585 +(202) 586-5373 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Donna E. Shalala +Secretary of Health and Human +Services +200 Independence Ave. S.W. +Washington D.C., 20201 +(202) 619-0257 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Henry G. Cisneros +Secretary of Housing and Urban +Development +451 Seventh St. S.W. +Washington D.C., 20410 +(202) 708-1112 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Bruce Babbitt +Secretary of Interior +18th and C Streets N.W. +Washington D.C., 20240 +(202) 208-3171 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Department of Justice +(Attorney General to be named) +Constitution Avenue and 10th +Street N.W. +Washington D.C. 20530 +(202) 514-2000 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Robert B. Reich +Secretary of Labor +200 Constitution Ave. N.W. +Washington D.C., 20210 +(202) 219-6666 +Fax: (202) 219-7312 + +Warren Christopher +Secretary of State +2201 C St. N.W. +Washington, D.C., 20520 +(202) 647-4000 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Lloyd Bentsen +Secretary of the Treasury +1500 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W. +Washington D.C., 20220 +(202) 622-2000 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Jesse Brown +Secretary of Veterans Affairs +810 Vermont Ave. N.W. +Washington D.C. 20420 +(202) 535-8300 +Fax: (202) 535-8496 + +Director Leon E. Panetta +Office of Management and Budget +Old Executive Office Building +17th Street and Pennsylvania +Avenue N.W. +Washington D.C., 20503 +(202) 395-3080 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Director John H. Gibbons +Office of Science and Technology Policy +The White House +Washington D.C., 20500 +(202) 456-7116 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Chairman Laura D'Andrea Tyson +Council of Economic Advisors +Old Executive Office Building, +Room 314 +17th Street and Pennsylvania +Avenue N.W. +Washington D.C., 20500 +(202) 395-5042 +Fax: Did not disclose + +Administrator Carol M. Browner +Environmental Protection Agency +401 M St. S.W. +Washington D.C., 20460 +(202) 260-2090 +Fax: Did not disclose + + +** End of article ** + +Don + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2923.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2923.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7dd16743 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2923.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,39 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO INFO FOR THE FEARLESS FILE: UFO2923 + + + + +Date: 11-22-93 (09:57) Number: 24991 of 25005 (Refer# NONE) + To: ALL +From: RUSS LONG +Subj: UFO info for the fearless +Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) +Conf: Fidonet_UFO (21) Read Type: GENERAL (+) + +Here are some CIA,FBI,and Secret Service radio Frequencies + +CIA: 163.81 165.01 165.11 165.385 408.60 + +FBI: 167.40 164.46 167.395 406.35 163.31 + +S.S: 163.40 163.81 165.025 171.235 165.90 + +Remember, they have Ultrasonic Adaptor Transmitter trackers +so you are risking your balls if you use any of those but +as long as you only receive, and don't transmit, you'll be fine. + +NSA freqs are available (Be careful) but most throughput +is encrypted. (You will need a J-DES box ) + +CIA: 165.01 had some interesting tidbits related to +this echo the other night. + + +John Doe +capcom@nsa.dp.com + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2924.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2924.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7f4fc86f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2924.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +SUBJECT: BELGIAN UFO SIGHTINGS FILE: UFO2924 + + + +(2067) Tue 17 Apr 90 6:49p +By: David Stager +To: Michael Corbin +Re: Belgian UFO Sightings +St: +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ + +@EID:2f6c 14919620 +In light of the recent UFO sightings in Belgium, I'm posting a 12-9-89 newpaper +story on the same subject: + +BRUSSELS, Belgium - The air force and police are investigating numerous UFO +sightings near the border with the Netherlands and West Germany, officials said +yesterday. + +Since Nov. 29, dozens of people and police officials in the northeastern Liege +province said they've seen luminous objects in the sky, with some of them +describing a flying platform scanning the surface with three huge searchlights, +while others talk of dancing lights. + +During the same period, air traffic controllers "found radar blips on the +screens that could not be immediately explained," said Defense Ministry +spokesman Col. Michael Mandel. + +At the time of the sightings there were no authorized low-level filghts in the +region. "We are looking for a rational explanation," he said. + +Although Mandel cast doubts on several witness accounts, the Belgian Society +for the Study of Space Phenomenon said yesterday it would send members to the +German-speaking region in Liege and across the border in the Netherlands and +West Germany this weekend. AP (89/12/9) DCS + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2925.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2925.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..103af290 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2925.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,368 @@ +SUBJECT: BELGIUM INFORMATION FILE: UFO2925 + + + + + +(9272) Wed 17 Apr 91 6:13p +By: ParaNet(sm) Information Service +To: All +Re: Belgium Information +St: +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +@MSGID: 1:104/428 48923a02 +This file was provided by ParaNet(sm) Information Service +and its network of international affiliates. +You may freely distribute this file as long as this header +remains intact. +Date Prepared: April 17, 1991 +Contributed by: Antonio Huneeus +============================================================ +For further information on ParaNet(sm), contact: +Michael Corbin +ParaNet Information Service +P.O. Box 172 +Wheatridge, CO 80034-0172 +or +FidoNet 1:104/422 +Internet mcorbin@scicom.alphacdc.com +=========================================================== + +Article as it appeared in UFO Universe, June/July 1991. + +BREAKING DOWN "THE WALL" OF UFO SILENCE + +FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, ALMOST THE ENTIRE EUROPEAN CONTINENT HAS +BEEN PLAGUED BY A WAVE OF UFO SIGHTINGS UNSURPASSED IN HISTORY, +PERHAPS MOST PUZZLING HAVE BEEN THOSE OF A GIGANTIC "FLYING +PLATFORM" SIGHTED NEAR THE GERMAN BORDER IN BELGIUM. + +By Antonio Huneeus + +(c) 1991 by A. Huneeus. All Rights Reserved Reprinted with +permission to ParaNet(sm) Information Service No further +reproduction is allowed without written permission from the +author. + +In a totally unprecedented move in the history of ufology, the +Belgian Air Force and government has not only carefully +documented the great UFO wave over Wallonia, but shared its +results with civilian investigators and the public, in effect +literally breaking down "The Wall" of UFO Silence that still +stands in the western world. + * * * + For the past year, citizens in the French-speaking region of +Wallonia in Belgium have experienced an extraordinary UFO wave. +Thousands of witnesses, including dozens of gendarmes (national +police) and officers of the Belgian Air Force, have described +triangular-shaped vehicles flying slowly over rooftops, hovering, +shooting searchlights and performing incredible maneuvers. The +objects have been captured on some 25 videotapes and tracked on +both ground and airborne radar by the military. + Few, if any, will doubt that the triangular UFOs have been seen +all over Wallonia since November of 1989. According to a front +page story in The Wall Street Journal published on October 10, +1990 and entitled "Belgium Scientists Seriously Pursue A +Triangular UFO," "since the rash of sightings here began almost a +year ago, more than ]2,600 have been reported of a triangular +object with three huge lights hovering in the night sky over +Wallonia." The question that some are asking is whether these +objects could be explained by the testing of a new top secret +military aircraft. Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPVs), AWACS, the +F-117 Stealth Fighter, and a modified version of the B-2 Stealth +Bomber, are some of the options that have been suggested. + Besides the large amount of well documented data gathered by +the Gendarmerie, the Air Force and civilian scientists from the +Belgian Society for the Study of Space Phenomena (SOBEPS), the +Belgian Map has broken another record. For the first time ever in +the controversial history of UFOs anywhere in the world, the +Belgian Minister of Defense, Guy Coeme, has authorized the Air +Force to fully cooperate with SOBEPS, forwarding their reports, +and even putting at their disposal a Hawker Sideley aircraft +equipped with infrared cameras and sophisticated electronic +sensors. + + As the well known French physicist, Jean Pierre Petit, explained +to Paris Match magazine, "we are living in a time that is the +beginning of a period of openness. First the Berlin Wall +crumbled, now the wall of silence about UFOs is falling. +Concerning the UFOs, we are entering a phase completely different +from the earlier ones. It is the end of commercialism and fakery. +The true scientists are finally making their appearance." Dr. +Petit is a senior physicist and director of research with the +National Center for Scientific Research of France. An iconoclast +and a world class expert on magnetohydrodynamcs (MHD), Dr. Petit +has also conducted some rather interesting UFO research of his +own, publishing recently his results in the book, INVESTIGATION +OF UFOS. + Unlike many other UFO groups around the world, the SOBEPS +has a team of respected scientists, including Leon Brenig, a +nonlinear dynamics theorist at the Free University in Brussels, +and Professor August Meessen, a physicist from the Catholic +University at Louvain. Among the numerous UFO witnesses, in fact, +were Lucien Clerebaut, Secretary General of SOBEPS, Patrick +Ferryn, a film producer and founding member, and Jose Fernandez, +another SOBEPS investigator. "Here is an opportunity where we can +apply the scientific method," remarked Professor Brenig. + SOBEPS files show that the first sightings occurred on the +night of November 7, 1989, when two gendarmes from Esneux +observed a silent huge craft "with two very powerful white lights +directed downwards and 'a sort of green and red garland.'" The +flap, however, gained momentum and notoriety on the evening of +November 29 when 41 witnesses, including six gendarmes, observed +the huge triangle - sometimes referred as "a stationary platform +" - in Eupen, Verviers, and several other locations in Wallonia +near the border with Germany. As the press speculated with AWACS +and Stealth aircraft on the following days, the Defense Minister +Guy Coeme dismissed these rumors, stating that "all hypotheses +involving the presence of military aircraft in our air space are +definitely to be ruled out. " + +It is perhaps because the objects are so far unidentified, that +the Belgian Air Force has undertaken the task of chasing and +investigating the intruders. As Col. Wilfried de Brouwer, the +Chief of Operations of the Belgian Air Force who is coordinating +the UFO investigation, told The Wall Street Journal, "Our +approach is that it's our job to see what's going on." Indeed, +the UFO flap climaxed on the night of March 30-31 of 1990, when +unknown targets were tracked by two radar installations. The one +at Glons, located southeast of Brussels, belongs to the NATO +defense group - NATO Headquarters is in Brussels - while that at +Semmerzake, west of Brussels, is in charge of controlling all +military and civilian traffic in the entire Belgian territory. At +that point, the master-controller at Glons ordered the scramble +of two F-16 interceptors, which also locked the UFO on their +onboard radars. + We have obtained, courtesy of French researcher Jean-Luc +Rivera, a copy of the complete report of this incident, which was +prepared by Air Force Major P. Lambrechts, from the Air Force +General Staff in Brussels, and which was forwarded to the SOBEPS +following the instructions of full cooperation with that group. +The "Report Concerning the Observation of UFOs During the Night +of March 30 to 31, 1990," includes a full chronology of the +events, as well as a thick dossier of enclosures with eyewitness' +descriptions from several gendarmes and maps of where the +sightings took place. + Major P. Lambrechts explains at the inception that, "the +observations both visual and by radar were of such nature, that +it was decided to order the scramble of two F-16 aircraft with +the goal of identifying these UFOs." The report also indicates +that "the presence or testing of B2 or F117 (Stealth Bomber), +RPVs (Remotely Piloted Vehicles), ULMs (Ultra Light Motorized) +and AWACS at the moment of these events in the Belgian airspace, +can be excluded. " + According to the Chronology, the Sequence of events began at +22.50 hours, when the "master controller at Glons " received a +telephone call from gendarme Renquin, who reported he was seeing +from his house in Ramillies, "three unusual lights. . . forming +an equilateral triangle, and with changing colors of red, green +and yellow." At 23.05, the Gendarmerie at Wavre sent a patrol, +which confirmed the observation. At 23.15, Renquin called again +to inform that he was seeing a new set of three lights, while the +radar screens at Glons detected " an unidentified contact moving +at a speed of around 25 knots." (A knot is equivalent to one +nautical mile - 6,080 feet - per hour. ) + For the next two and a half hours, an increasing number of +gendarmes and other witnesses continued to observe the strange +maneuvers of up to three sets of triangular lights in the +outskirts of Brussels. By 23.49 hours, the radar screens at +Semmerzake confirmed the targets and the order to scramble two F- +16s was given at 23.56 hours, taking off at 00.05 on March 31. +According to the report, "the aircraft had brief radar contacts +on several occasions." However, each time that "the pilots were +able to secure a lock on one of the targets for a few seconds, +this resulted each time in a drastic change in the behavior of +the UFOs." + During the first lock on at 00.13, continues the report, "the +speed of the target changed in a minimum of time from 150 to 970 +knots and from 9,000 to 5,000 feet, returning then to 11,000 +feet, in order to change again to close to ground level; this +resulted in a 'break lock' in a few seconds and the pilots lost +the radar contact." In another lock on at 00.30 hours, the "break +lock" was achieved by what the report calls "a jamming signal on +the screen." + Col. de Brouwer explained to Paris Match reporter Marie-Therese +de Brosses, that the change of velocity from 280 KPM to 1,800 KPH +while descending from 3,000 meters to 1,000 meters in one second, +was a fantastic acceleration equivalent to 40 Gs. This would +exclude any human pilot onboard the UFO, since humans can only +withstand 8 Gs. (A "G " is a unit of acceleration equivalent to +the gravitational pull of the earth, 9.81 m/sec/sec.) When the +UFO approached the ground level, continued Col. de Brouwer, "it +was out of the question for the F-16 to catch up with the object +at this low altitude, where the density of the air limits the +speed to 1,300 KMP. Above that speed, the temperature in the +compressors of the jet turbines would cause the engines to burst. +There was a logic behind the motions of the object," added the +Colonel. + +In any case, the cat and mouse game went on until shortly after 1 +am, when the F-16s were ordered to return to their base. On the +ground, however, Captain Pinson and other gendarmes continued to +observe "four white luminous spots forming a square" until around +1.30, when "the four UFOs lost their luminosity and seemed to +disappear in four different directions." Significantly, the +weather conditions on that night were very clear, allowing ground +witnesses to observe the objects in detail, as well as the +pursuit by the F-16s. The pilots, however, did not observe the +objects visually. + Major Lambrechts finally excludes a number of alternative +hypotheses for the UFOs, such as "optical illusions, confusion +with planets or other meteorological phenomena... weather +balloons. . . or meteorological inversions. . . holographic +projections," etc. More importantly, he writes that "the speeds +measured at he moment of the change of altitudes, exclude the +hypothesis that the UFOs observed could be confused with +aircraft. " Still more puzzling was the fact that, "despite that +on several occasions high speeds above the speed of the sound +barrier were measured, the shock wave was never observed. Here, +no explanation can be given." The French physicist Jean Pierre +Petit concurred: "In reality," he told Paris Match, "there is no +machine made by man, either an airplane or a missile, that is +capable of such performance. Specifically, flying at the speed of +sound without making a sonic boom." + + Although the Belgian military authorities have insisted that +the UFOs in Wallonia are no secret aircraft, the similarities +between the triangular craft seen in Belgium with the boomerang- +shaped objects reported throughout the last decade in the Hudson +Valley in New York and Western Connecticut, as well as other +triangular UFOs observed in Wytheville, Virginia, Fyffe, Alabama, +and Puerto Rico, among other places, have led some researchers to +suggest that the technology behind all these observations is +terrestrial and not extraterrestrial. + The similarity between the Belgian and Hudson Valley flaps was +noted by SOBEPS investigator Patrick Ferryn. Commenting on the +book Night Siege by the late Dr. Allen Hynek, investigator +Phillip Imbrogno and reporter Bob Pratt, which documented the +Hudson Valley cases, Ferryn wrote that "changing only a few +words, exactly the same could be written to give an account of +the position of affairs here! [in Belgium] The same goes for many +entire pages and excerpts elsewhere in the book." + While nobody doubts that people have been seeing something in +both upstate New York and Wallonia in Belgium, the big question +is whether these sightings are caused by true UFOs or by some +kind of new revolutionary secret military aircraft. Foremost +among the proponents of the secret weapon theory is Tony +Gonsalves, a researcher from East Providence, Rhode Island, who +served as a jet mechanic and plane captain for the U.S. Navy on +three aircraft carriers between 1959 and 1963. + In a number of papers written during the last two years, +Gonsalves has developed his theory of "The American made UFO" - +that the boomerangs of Westchester and Duchess counties, as well +as the triangular UFOs of Belgium, Virginia and Puerto Rico, are +actually a modified covert version of the B-2 Stealth Bomber. +Gonsalves believes this craft has been fully operational since +the early 80s, while the official B-2 bomber that was unveiled in +1988 is a "decoy" to deceive the American public, the media and +the Congress. Furthermore, Tony Gonsalves and a few other +ufologists speculate that this secret aircraft may even +incorporate some alien technology obtained from UFO crashes +decades ago. + Gonsalves' theory seemed to gain some credibility when Aviation +Week & Space Technology magazine reported in its October 1, 1990 +edition that, "large, triangular wing-Shaped aircraft" are indeed +being tested out of the Nellis Air Force range in Nevada and the +Tehachapi Mountains near Edwards AFB in California. The well +known aerospace magazine mentioned several sightings by engineers +of "triangular-shaped aircraft, " possibly prototypes for the A- +12, the Navy's new Stealth attack plane, and one or several +versions for reconnaissance aircraft cloaked under the top secret +code of Aurora, to replace the old Lockheed SR-71 "Blackbird" +which was recently mothballed. Aviation Week (sometimes referred +by the nickname of "Aviation Leak") also quoted Air Force sources +who "acknowledged that diamond and triangular-shaped vehicles are +'the trend now,'" as well as unconfirmed reports that some of +these aircraft "were designed to operate at speeds around Mach 10 +or higher." + Because he worked for over 30 years as senior editor of +Aviation Week, where he is still a contributing editor, we sought +the opinion of well known UFO debunker Phillip Klass as to +whether there could be any validity to explain the Hudson Valley +and Belgian flaps with Secret military aircraft, Stealth or +otherwise. "In my opinion the answer is absolutely not," +responded Klass, adding that only those sightings "in the +vicinity of Nellis Air Force Base" in Nevada could be caused by +military aircraft tests. "If there were a secret airplane," +continued Klass, "for goodness' sake, the last place in the world +you'd want to fly it is in Duchess County, where people have been +alerted to look for objects." + Although they certainly disagree on the final cause of the +sightings, Klass and Phillip Imbrogno seem to be in full +agreement in their rejection of Tony Gonsalves' Stealth theory. +"l can't see the government testing a top secret device in an +area like this, " said Imbrogno. "Number one, what if they have a +problem, what if they crash?" Imbrogno said he had considered +this possibility when he first looked into the boomerang +sightings, but that "I am convinced right now that the Hudson +Valley UFO is not an aircraft, Stealth or otherwise. Number two, +I am not totally convinced that it's from outerspace. Number +three, I don't know what the hell it is." + Meanwhile, sightings continue to pile up in Europe. The latest +case before we go to press was reported in early November, when +"mystery shapes in the sky, variously described as orange balls, +triangles and points of light," were reported in France, Belgium, +Germany, Switzerland and Italy, according to a newswire report +from the Reuter's news agency. Police phone lines were flooded +across the continent with calls about unidentified flying +objects. Experts in Munich speculated the sightings could have +been triggered by the explosion of a meteorite. However, this +explanation could hardly satisfy the familiar sightings in +Belgium, where "dozens of people reported a triangular object +with three lights flying slowly and soundlessly to the +southwest," according to the Reuter report. + The Belgian Air Force was studying once again the case, and so +was France's Service for the Investigation of Re-entry Phenomena +(SEPRA), which is attached to the French National Space Agency in +Toulouse and was formerly known as GEPAN. One Air France pilot +told a radio interviewer: "We were on a flight to Barcelona +(Spain) at about 33,000 feet at about 7 pm when we first saw the +shape. It couldn't have been a satellite because it was there for +three or four minutes." + If the sightings in Belgium and elsewhere turn out to be secret +aircraft, the mystery will become pubic sooner or later, but if +they are indeed caused by true UFOs, then we may be debating them +for a long time to come. Perhaps a summary of the whole Belgian +flap and its meaning was best expressed by SOBEPS Scientist +August Meessen, Professor of Physics at the Catholic University +at Louvain. He told the French magazine Paris Match: "There are +too many independent eyewitness reports to ignore. Too many of +the reports describe coherent physical effects, and there is an +agreement among the accounts concerning what was observed. If all +of these witnesses are lying, then it is a mental disease of such +novelty and proportions that it must be studied." + + "But of course," continued Prof. Meessen, "there are also +physical effects. The Air Force report allows us to approach the +problem in a rational and scientific way. The simplest hypothesis +is that the reports are caused by extraterrestrial visitors, but +that hypothesis carries with it other problems. We are not in a +rush to form a conclusion, but continue to study the mystery." +The last word about the UFO flap that has brought down "The Wall" +of UFO Silence has yet to be uttered. + + + ABOUT THE AUTHOR Chilean-American journalist Antonio Huneeus +was born in New York in 1950, the son of a Chilean diplomat and +United States official. After studying French at the Sarbonne +University in Paris in 1970 and journalism at the University of +Chile, he worked as science editor for a weekly magazine in +Santiago and was a contributor for a number of newspapers. +Huneeus' UFO investigation began in 1977 with the bizarre "time +warp" incident of Chilean Army Corporal Armando Valdes. Since +then, he has written hundreds of articles on UFOs and related +subjects for such publications as Omni, UFO Report, and the MUFON +JOURNAL in the U.S., as well as for magazines throughout South +America and Europe. Last year he won the UFOlogists of the Year +Award given by the National UFO Conference. The photographs and +art that accompany this article are part of Antonio's UFO +CHRONICLE lecture and slide presentation. Readers may reach the +author directly at Box 1989, New York, NY 10159. + +END + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2926.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2926.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e99a22bb --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2926.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +SUBJECT: DOCUMENT FROM BELGIAN DEFENCE DEPARTMENT FILE: UFO2926 + + + + + +From Bill Chalker in Australia - A ParaNet(sm) special correspondent. + +Mike, Re the Document received from the Belgian Defence Department, the full +document follows: + SUMMARY REPORT ON OBSERVATIONS 30-31 MARCH 1990 + +BACKGROUND +1. Starting early Dec 89 the BAF has been contacted on several occasions by +eyewitnesses who observed strange phenomena in the Belgian airspace. On some +occassions they described the phenomena as a triangle-shaped platform up to 200 +feet wide with 3 downward beaming projectors, hovering at +- 100 m above the +ground and making only a very light humming noise. Some witnesses saw the +object departing at very high speed after a very fast acceleration. All +observations were made in the evening or during the night. 2. The radar +stations which had been alerted by eyewitnesses could not definitely determine +a correlation between the visual observations and their detections on radar. +On two occasions the BAF scrambled 2 F16 during the evening hours. a.On the +first occasion the F16 arrived +- 1 hour after the visual detection. Nothing +was observed. b. On the second occassion, pilots could identify a laser-beam +projector on the ground. After investigation it appeared however that the +description of the observations totally differed from previously described +phenomena. 3. Consequently the Belgian Airforce, anxious to identify the origin +of the phenomena, authorised F16 scrambles if following conditions were met: a. +Visual observations on the ground confirmed by the local police. b. Detection +on radar. + +EVENTS +4. On 30 Mar 1990 at 23.00 Hr the Master Controller (MC) of the Air Defence +radar station of Glons received a phone call from a person who declared to +observe three independant blinking lights in the sky, changing colours, with a +much higher intensity than the lights of the stars and forming a triangle. +Meteo conditions were clear sky, no clouds, light wind and a minor temperature +inversion at 3000 Ft. 5. The MC in turn notified the police of WAVRE which +confirmed the sighting at +- 23 30 Hr. Meanwhile the MC had identified a radar +contact at about 8 NM North of the ground observation. The contact moved +slowely to the West at a speed of =- 25kts and an altitude of 10.000 Ft. 6. The +ground observers reported 3 additional light spots which moved gradually, with +irregular speeds, towards the first set of lights and forming a second +triangle. 7. At 23.50 a second radar station, situated at +- 100 NM from the +first, confirmed an identical contact at the same place of the radar contact of +Glons. 8. At 00.05 Hr 2 F16 were scrambled from BEAUVECHAIN airbase and guided +towards the radar contacts. A total of 9 interception attempts have been made. +At 6 occasions the pilots could establish a lock-on with their air interception +radar. Lock-on distances varried between 5 and 8 NM. On all occasions targets +varied speed and altitude very quickly and break-locks occured after 10 to 60 +seconds. Speeds varied between 150 and 1010 kts. At 3 occasions both F16 +registered simultaneous lock-ons with the same parameters. The 2 F16 were +flying +- 2 NM apart. No visual contact could be established by either of the +F16 pilots. 9. The F16 flew 3 times through the observation field of the ground +observers. At the third passage the ground observers notified a change in the +behaviour of the light spots. The most luminous started to blink very +intensively while the other disappeared. Consequently, the most luminous spot +started to dim gradually. 10. Meanwhile the head of the police of WAVRE had +alerted 4 other police stations in the area. All four, seperated +- 10 NM from +each other, confirmed the visual observations. 11. The aircraft landed at 01.10 +Hrs. The last visual observation was recorded at +- 01.30 Hrs. + +CONCLUSIONS +12. The BELGIAN Airforce was unable to identify neither the nature nor the +origin of the phenomena. However, it had sufficient elements to exclude +following assumptions: a. Balloons. Impossible due to the highly variable +speeds (confirmed visually and by radar). b. ULM. Same as for balloons. c. RPV. +Impossible due to the hovering characteristics. d. Aircraft (including +Stealth). Same as for RPV. No noise. e. Laser projections or Mirages. +Unlikely due to lack of projection surface (no clouds). Light spots have been +observed from different locations. Light spots moved over distance of more +than 15 NM. Form of inlighted part of spots has been observed with spectacles. + Laser projections or mirages can not be detected by radar. + + {signed} + W. DE BROUWER + Kol Vl SBH + VS3 +THAT REPRESENTS THE WHOLE DOCUMENT AS RECEIVED. It was described by E. Lamin, +Colonel Brevete d'Etat-Major Chef de la Section Politique de Defense ad interim +as "Veuillez trover, ci-joint, un resume de la declaration faite a la presse, +le 11 juillet 1990, par le Colonel Aviateur Brevete d'Etat-Major DE BROUWER, +Chef de la Section Operations de l'Etat-Major de la Force Aerienne Belge, +relative aux observations en objet." The Summary was the the basis of the press +briefing given on 11 July, 1990 by De Brouwer. The copy as above was sent to +me in English albeit a little in error. All in all an interesting official +summary of the pertinent events. Mike, as Richard Haines specialises in +aircraft cases could you please pass on a copy of this via the fax arrangement +you have set up, with my compliments and warm regards. He may have already +secured this info but in case he hasn't he get this version. Could you also +ask him to advise on his knowledge and position on the affair particular the +photography and a/c RV events. He could do this via Paranet and/or my postal +address: P.O. Box W42, West Pennant Hills, NSW, AUSTRALIA, 2125. Trust you all +all the Paranet researchers find this of interest. Regards from down under. I +look forward to any further info you have on the Belgian affair. - Bill Chalker + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2927.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2927.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..09cd8e9d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2927.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,399 @@ +SUBJECT: THE MATERIAL I PREPARED BUT THEY WOULDN'T PRINT FILE: UFO2927 + + + + +This file was provided by ParaNet(sm) Information Service +and its network of international affiliates. +You may freely distribute this file as long as this header +remains intact. +============================================================ +For further information on ParaNet(sm), contact: +Michael Corbin +ParaNet Information Service +P.O. Box 928 +Wheatridge, CO 80034-0928 +or +Netmail 1:104/422 +============================================================ + + +The following was given to me by Mark Rodeghier / Center for UFO +Studies, 2457 W. Peterson Ave., Chicago, IL. 60659. Any comment +in brackets [] is mine. BB + ******************* + + EYES ONLY VOL. 1, No. 1 + +The Ufological wit and wisdom of Bob Durant or, the material I +prepared for the New Jersey MUFON Newsletter but they wouldn't +print. + + * * * + + PARIS MATCH is a slick French weekly something like a classy +cross between TIME and PEOPLE MAGAZINE. It is very widely read +and something of a journalistic institution. Although the reader +can count on the latest gossip concerning Charles and Lady Di, +each issue also contains serious coverage of political and +scientific issues. + Thanks to the linguistic abilities of my wife, I have +translated an astonishing article that appeared in the July 5, +1990 issue. This recounts a series of sightings of a UFO over +Belgium. There were thousands of witnesses, and the object was +tracked simultaneously by two ground radar installations and by +the airborne intercept radars of two F-16 fighters sent to chase +it. + But by far the most significant aspect of this case is that +the Belgium government released all the data and worked in close +cooperation with a civilian UFO research organization. To the +best of my knowledge, this is unique in the history of ufology. + Indeed it is the "political" aspect that prodded me to take +the considerable time and effort to make this translation +available to ufologists in the U.S. Please "network" this +document as you see fit, remembering that the article (but not my +translation) is copyrighted. + + Sincerely, + + BOB (signed) + + R.J. Durant + + * * * + + + AN UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT ON THE RADAR OF AN F-16 + by Marie-Theresa De Brosses + + The Belgium Defense Minister authorized us to publish this +report. It is the "scoop of the sky." These two screens (see +photos) [The article is referring to two photos of the radar +screens in the F-16 which are derived from an internal recording +device in the plane. Photo one shows the UFO as a diamond on the +screen framed by short vertical lines indicating that the pilot +has instructed the computer to follow the target. The comparison +of the two photos supports statements by the pilots that the UFO +dove from 2,000 meters (7,000 ft) to 00, indicating that it was +below the 200 meter limit on the radar. This occurred in ONE +second.] are the incontestable witnesses of a meeting of science +& fiction. In an unprecedented action, the Belgium Air Force has +released pictures of the radar images of UFOs intercepted by the +pilots of their F-16 fighters. It was the precision and clarity +of the pictures that convinced the Defense Minister to order full +resources deployed in the gigantic chase of the UFO during the +Easter weekend. PARIS MATCH takes you behind the symbols and +numbers of these exceptional pictures to discover the incredible +performance of those flying objects which are very real but +nonetheless unidentified. We may not be the only ones in the +universe. + There are people in the military services who are normally +silent on this subject but who now say: the UFOs are not a myth. +On June 22nd, for the first time in history, an Air Force +revealed an important piece of this story which is not science +fiction. + On this day, after going through a meticulous security +screening, I find myself in the headquarters of the Belgium Air +Force near Brussels. In a small room, Colonel DeBrouwer, Chief of +Operations of the Belgium Air Force, started a video tape +recorder. On the screen appeared the film that was brought back +in the "black box" of the F-16 that was launched to chase the +UFO. This, it turned out, was not really the important chase, +which would happen two weeks later, when practically all of +Belgium tried to capture the UFO. But until now we were not told +about the one Colonel DeBrouwer was about to describe. + The Belgium military had been on alert since November 1989, +when numerous reports by the Gendarmerie (National police force) +began pouring in daily telling of observations of UFOs above +Belgium territory. It had started on the crazy night of November +29, 1989, during which 30 groups of witnesses, among them three +police patrols, scattered over 800 square kilometers of territory +between Liege and the German/Netherlands border, reported UFOs. +All of the witnesses observed for hours a strange triangular +object nearly silent, maneuvering at low speed and very low +altitude, without creating the least amount of turbulence. + As do the world's Air Forces, the Belgian military have at +their disposal supersonic interceptor airplanes ready 24 hours a +day to take off with five minutes notice. In this case we are +talking about two F-16 single pilot fighters, armed with +missiles. Headquarters was prudent and conservative. During the +previous month the two planes have twice been sent in response to +sightings but without results. The first time they saw nothing. +The second instance was attributed to an advertising searchlight +for a night club. + On the night of March 30th, one of the callers reporting a UFO +was a Captain of the national police at Pinson, and Headquarters +decided to make a serious effort to verify the reports. In +addition to the visual sightings, two radar installations also +saw the UFO. One radar is at Glons, southeast of Brussels, which +is part of the NATO defense group, and one at Semmerzake, west of +the Capitol, which controls the military and civilian traffic of +the entire Belgian territory. The range of the two radars is 300 +KM, which is more than enough to cover the area where the reports +took place. In this region the land is fairly flat, rolling +country without any prominent hills. The radar has a perfect +view of all flying objects with an altitude above 200 meters over +the ground. Nevertheless, Headquarters determined to do some very +precise studies during the next 55 minutes to eliminate the +possibility of prosaic explanations for the radar images. +Excellent atmospheric conditions prevailed, and there was no +possibility of false echoes due to temperature inversions. + All military and civilian airplanes are equipped with a device +called a transponder which permits their immediate identification +on the radar screen in the form of a coded signal. The radar echo +received on that night was like that of an airplane that was +moving at very low speed, about 50 KPH, and frequently changing +direction and altitude. But it did not send any identifying +transponder signal. + Naturally, the Belgian Air Force can't permit an unidentified +object to fly over its territory. So at 0005 hours the order was +given to the F-16s to take off and to find the intruder. The lead +pilot concentrated on his radar screen, which at night is his +best organ of vision. The F-16 is equipped with very +sophisticated equipment, including chase radar, which is not +fixed directly ahead of the airplane, but makes a wide search in +an arc of 90 degrees left and right of the nose. Slightly behind +the lead fighter, the wingman in the second F-16 followed the +movements of the first jet, concentrating on maintaining contact +with the center of coordination of the search. + Suddenly the two fighters spotted the intruder on their radar +screens, appearing like a little bee dancing on the scope. Using +their joy sticks like a video game, the pilots ordered the +onboard computers to pursue the target. As soon as lock-on was +achieved, the target appeared on the screen as a diamond shape, +telling the pilots that from that moment on the F-16s will remain +tracking the object automatically. On the screen is indicated the +object's position, distance and speed. The object was very close +to the fighters. + On this portion of the video tape that Col. DeBrouwer has, in +such an exceptional manner, allowed us to see, we can hear the +radio exchange of the two pilots. The emotions of the pilots are +clearly perceptible. "Look," the Colonel tells me stopping the +VCR, and showing me the diamond shape on the screen, "At this +stage in the chase in our military jargon it means a successful +interception." + Then I said, in layman's terms, what does a "successful +interception" mean? He answered, "Our fighter planes are armed +with automatically self-directed missiles. Once they are launched +internal computers in the missiles intelligently guide the +missiles to the target by themselves. Of course, in this case of +the UFO there was no question of doing that. We only wanted to +identify the intruder." + The pilot did not even have time to start this procedure, +which requires the fighter's radar to stay locked on for at least +six seconds. But the object had speeded up from an initial +velocity of 280 KPH to 1,800 KPH, while descending from 3,000 +meters to 1,700 meters...in one second! This fantastic +acceleration corresponds to 40 Gs. [A "G" is a unit of +acceleration. One G is equivalent to the gravitational pull of +the earth, 9.81 m/sec/sec.] It would cause immediate death to a +human on board. The limit of what a pilot can take is about 8 Gs. +And the trajectory of the object was extremely disconcerting. It +arrived at 1,700 meters altitude, then it dove rapidly toward the +ground at an altitude under 200 meters, and in doing so escaped +from the radars of the fighters and ground units at Glons and +Semmerzake. This maneuver took place over the suburbs of +Brussels, which are so full of man-made lights that the pilots +lost sight of the object beneath them. + "In any event, it was out of the question for the F-16 to +catch up with the object at this low altitude, where the density +of the air limits the speed to 1,300 KPH. Above that speed, the +temperature in the compressors of the jet turbines would cause +the engines to burst," said Col. DeBrouwer. "There was a logic +behind the motions of the object." + Everything indicates that this object was intelligently +directed to escape from the pursuing planes. During the next +hours the scenario repeated twice. The Commander of the Belgian +Air Force gave me a detailed report which had been produced by +the Belgian Society For The Study of Special Phenomena (Sobeps) +in cooperation with the Air Force. The report states: "In three +cases the pilots managed to get their radar locked on the object, +with the immediate result that the object's behavior drastically +changed. The object literally played hide and seek with the +fighters. It dived toward the ground to evade the airborne and +ground radars. Then it climbed back into radar range in a +leisurely manner, thus initiating a new chase. + This fantastic game of hide and seek was observed from the +ground by a great number of witnesses, among them 20 national +policemen who saw both the object and the F-16s. The encounter +lasted 75 minutes, but nobody heard the supersonic boom which +should have been present when the object flew through the sonic +barrier. No physical damage was reported. Given the low altitude +and the speed of the object, many windows should have been +broken. + So, for the first time in history, a newspaper reporter was +allowed to see a document which established proof of an +interception of a UFO by a military fighter. I have seen on the +video screen the flight maneuvers and the extraordinary changes +in speed of the UFO. + All the details of this affair are related in the report which +has just been released by Sobeps. This collaboration between the +Air Force of a nation and a private research group is without +precedent and must be taken very seriously. Also, the competence +of the civilian researchers is worthy of trust. This group +includes several scientists with excellent credentials such as +physicist Leo Brenig, Professor at the University of Brussels and +August Meesen, Professor at the Catholic University of Louvain, +who has belonged to Sobeps since its creation 18 years ago. On a +television interview, Mr. Guy Coeme the Minister of Defense, +declared that he had authorized the AIr Force to release all +information at their disposal to Sobep. + After having seen this dramatic sequence, I posed a number of +questions to Col. DeBrouwer. First, could the object have been a +radiosonde balloon? + "No, the object acted as if it was totally independent of the +winds, and we have done, among other things, a complete review of +meteorological conditions. This is why we did not publish the +report until now. We wanted to do a complete study to verify all +aspects of the case. Our military defense system is not prepared +for this sort of thing. We had to analyze and interpret the data +from the recording inside the fighters." + Is it a natural phenomenon, or perhaps the debris from rockets +or satellites or space junk? "No, a meteorite or a fragment of a +rocket does not enter the atmosphere in a zig zag fashion. The +analysis of the radar traces showed numerous changes in +direction, and the atmospheric conditions that prevailed +precluded any electromagnetic phenomenon as the cause." + But I asked how about the famous F-117 the American Stealth +airplane, which many people think may be responsible? "This +airplane is absolutely designed for penetration at low altitude. +On the other hand it has a minimum speed of 278 KPH and the UFOs +speed went down to 40 KPH. The F-117 does not have engines that +can be tilted down for very slow speed flight. Also no airplane +is capable of flying at 1,800 KPH or so low to the ground without +creating a sonic boom." + Then he gave me a telex sent by the Military Attache of the +U.S. Ambassador to the Commander of the Belgian Air Force +confirming that the Stealth airplane was never stationed on +European territory nor did it ever fly over that territory. + Professor Jean Pierre Petit accompanied me in my visit to the +Belgian Air Force Headquarters. He once served as a controller +for jet interception exercises. Petit is a senior physicist and a +director of research with the National Center for Scientific +Research of France. He has recently published a book entitled +"Investigation of UFOs," published by Editions Albin Michel, and +makes this strong statement: + "In reality, there is no machine made by man either an +airplane or a missile that is capable of such performance. +Specifically, flying at the speed of sound without making a sonic +boom. What degree of confidence can we place on this statement? +The same as that in Astrophysics connected with the first +detection of a Supernova in 1987 in the Magellanic Clouds +galactic group. Proof of the existence of this stellar cataclysm +we call a Supernova relies on this single unique observation. I +am completely convinced that this type of UFO observation by +radar has already happened many times over the past 30 years +either by means of the sophisticated radar of the F-16 which is +typical of that used by the world's air forces for the past ten +years or before that by conventional radar. And those countries +who have had radar contacts have kept the fact in strict secrecy +to avoid public panic." + But what is happening right now, what is the reason for this +sudden revelation of the truth? + "We are living in a time that is the beginning of a period of +openness. First the Berlin Wall Crumbled, now the wall of silence +about UFOs is falling. Concerning the UFOs we are entering a +phase completely different from the earlier ones. It is the end +of commercialism and fakery. The true scientists are finally +making their appearance. Look at the work of Professor Meesen." + "Sobeps has collected more than one thousand eyewitness +reports from the UFO wave over Belgium. One report is especially +interesting. On the night of March 31, at a location 30 KM +southeast of Brussels, three completely reliable witnesses had a +sighting. They were Lucien Clerebaut, Secretary General of +Sobeps, Patrick Ferrym, a Moving Picture Producer, and Jose +Fernandez. They observed a bright luminous light low on the +horizon. The light got bigger and closer, and was seen to be an +object of triangular form with rounded angles. It was carrying +four spotlights and the periphery of the object had numerous +smaller lights around it. As it passed over their heads at an +altitude which they estimated to be 300 to 400 meters, the object +had a diameter six times that of a full moon. Mr. Ferrym took +four pictures of the object with a very high sensitivity film +with an ASA of 1,600. As a control he photographed an ordinary +airplane several minutes later, using the same shutter opening +and speed." + "When the film was developed he got a surprise. The position +lights of the airplane were clearly shown on the pictures. But +the `spotlights' on the UFO, which to the naked eye had been much +stronger than the lights on the airplane, were hardly +discernible. The general form of the UFO, which had also been +clearly visible, was lost on the film. It should be noted that +the UFO was also much closer to the observers than the airplane." + Recalling that a simple infrared ray can prevent some films +from being exposed, Professor Meesen performed an experiment in +his laboratory. Using a prism, he projected directly on unexposed +film a spectrum of light, going from red to purple, superimposing +an infrared ray on the lower part of the negative. When the film +was developed, the spectrum of light is perfectly visible in the +portion of the film untouched by the infrared ray but +considerably attenuated, though not completely annihilated, where +the infrared light struck the film." + The Professor continued, "If the UFOs are really a physical +object, and if they propagate infrared light, it would be quite +normal that photographs would contain some surprises when they +were developed. This could include the total disappearance of the +object that had been observed visually. This would explain the +very low number of pictures that we have received in this UFO +wave as well as the failure to get close up pictures. + Professor Meesen remained very conservative. As a good +disciple of the famous scientist Claude Bernard, he is faithful +to the Scientific Method, which consists of observing facts, then +proposing hypotheses to explain the facts and finally +accomplishing experimental verification of the hypotheses. To him +it is absolutely essential to study this enigmatic file of UFO +reports: "There are too many independent eyewitness reports to +ignore. Too many of the reports describe coherent physical +effects and there is an agreement among the accounts concerning +what was observed. If all of these witnesses are lying, then it +is a mental disease of such novelty and proportions that it must +be studied. But of course there are also physical effects. The +Air Force report allows us to approach the problem in a rational +and scientific way. The simplest hypothesis is that the reports +are caused by extraterrestrial visitors, but that hypothesis +carries with it other problems. We are not in a rush to form a +conclusion, but also to study the mystery." + When I first met Prof. Meesen, he had not yet seen the +document that was shown to me by Col. DeBrouwer. This was the +Belgian Air Force report on the successful interceptions of March +30, which allowed us to understand why the military had placed at +the disposal of Sobep such facilities as the F-16 interceptors +and a twin engine Hawker airplane. The Hawker could carry a large +number of researchers and many measuring devices, including an +enormous infrared camera. During this eventful weekend, which +drew in tens of thousands of witnesses, the military had put top +priority on the UFO, but was remaining silent. They wanted to +know more before speaking. + The press was astonished by the "unsuccessful" hunt on this +Easter weekend. But it is all clear now. We could not say that +the UFO did not actually meet us, because there were many +observations from the ground. But if the device had stayed under +200 meters in altitude, it would have been undetectable by radar. + Now the sightings have dribbled off, the witnesses rarer and +rarer. But the questions still remain. How disconcerting this +wave of UFO sightings over Belgium! First of all, why Belgium? +Why these thousands of witnesses in a six month period? In +previous decades witnesses often described landings, but why were +there no landing reports? Why the triangular shape of the UFO, +reported by more than 90% of the witnesses? At the moment, all of +these are questions without an answer. + "For us, the release of this report by the Belgian Air Force +and the confidence in us that it bespeaks is the reward for 18 +years of work," concluded Lucien Clerebaut of Sobeps. + Regardless of the frustrating irregularity of this phenomenon +(waves of sightings mixed with long periods of absence), and +regardless of the sarcasms of those scientists who are violently +hostile to this kind of investigation which they consider to be a +sort of scientific disease, a few eminent scientists such as +Professors Meesen, Brenig and Petit continue their methodical +work. + Now is the time to help them. + + +END + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2928.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2928.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d213efd7 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2928.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +SUBJECT: HUMAN RIGHTS FILE: UFO2928 + + + + +Human Rights: + +What is this garbage we are hearing now from our politicians about Human +Rights? Is our own government really interested in Human rights? What about the +right to express our own beliefs? (except if they conflict with their own). +What about our right to know about the flying saucers and the dead bodies of +the aliens? What about the MJ-12? That group of individuals who for over forty +years have kept the truth from the people? + +We say Russia is bad because they have no morals. What about the morality of +this country? Is Cheating and lying to the public for forty years really the OK +for the government, but for everyone else it means go to jail if we do it to +our government? + +When is it that the government of the people, and by the people, and for the +people is immune to the laws they themselves impose on us? + +How can this possibly be a democracy when it requires that our elected +officials continue to participate in this deception. Every single president +since Truman has is guilty of immoral and unlawful activity to suppress the +truth about MJ-12, and extraterrestrial life, from every man woman and child in +this country. That every one of these men knowingly perpetrated the most +deceptive cover-up in the history of our country. That every one of those +presidents have no sense of morality. + +CONFIDENCE + +What confidence can we have in a government that habitually lies +to it's people. Is this the mark of a healthy dictatorship? How +can we trust the government in other matters if we cannot be sure +they are telling us the truth about flying saucers. + +Who will we elect to office? Another puppet to have his strings +pulled by MJ-12. Will He shift has allegiance from serving the +people who elect him, to one of serving the MJ-12. Is it right +that so many people should suffer in order to save the egg from +smearing the faces of old worn out perverted egos. Is our next +president going to learn about the flying saucer cover-up and +simply bury his head in the sand also? + +This great country was founded on the principles of Truth and +Justice and liberty for all. How can a government be anything +less than totalitarian when it deceives the very people who elect +them? Where does it say in our bill of rights, that we agree to +allow our government to tell us lies. Where does it say we feel +it is OK for the government to lie to it's public and then +require the public pay taxes to support the deception? What about +National Security. "Baloney"!, Who is judge that determines and +authorizes the deception? What is the supreme court then? Why has +not the government got a court order from the court that +restricts them from telling the public and then forces them to +cheat and lie to the people? Isn't that the way our system works? + +A CHALLENGE +Ask your next elected president, Any candidate, what he will do +to expose the truth once we elect him into office? What assurance +do we have that he will do any different than Regan, or Carter, +or Nixon, or any other president who knows about this. + +Go to your local newspaper and ask what kind of trouble they +would get into by raising this issue with any of the political +candidates?, then ask yourself what human rights is all about. +(Freedom of expression ends at the local newspaper) how many +newspapers would press a candidate for answers before they are +elected in order to demonstrate the people should place their +trust in him? How many newspapers reporters would dare put these +thoughts into the simple minds of puppet politicians. You'll most +likely find the whole matter will fizzle in the two-faced +laughter of news reporters and politicians alike. Doe's it really +matter anyway? Does the public at large really care what happens +anyway? As long as there is Football and pizza the masses could +care less about their own future, much less the one their +children will inherit from their ignorance and apathy. Or, is +this just another tool Lucifer is using to keep the darkness upon +us. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2929.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2929.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4413edf5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2929.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE HIGH WEIRDNESS FILE: UFO2929 + + + + + +Date: 11-22-93 (17:53) Number: 24979 of 25005 (Refer# NONE) + To: DON ALLEN +From: CHARLIE DUNN +Subj: More High Weirdness +Read: NO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) +Conf: Fidonet_UFO (21) Read Type: GENERAL (+) + +Hi, Don... + +Well, the plot seems to be thickening. When I received your +post, I faxed it to Dr. Greer, and he immediately replied. + +============================================================== + +DA> I have a question that if you would, please fax this to Dr. +DA> Greer: + +DA> Are you involved in _any_ way with Scott Jones and John +DA> Alexander with regard to CSETI's involvement to being on the +DA> announcement team? I hope you are aware that these two are +DA> AVIARY members and are part of the CONTROL GROUP. + +DA> If you are, my suggestion to you is be very careful..just +DA> remember what Richard Doty did to Linda Moulton Howe a few +DA> years ago. + +DA> I got word, Steven..that the AVIARY is going to try and hang +DA> you out to dry. Just a word to the wise. Watch yourself +DA> around "Mr. Non-Lethal". + +================================================================ + + Dr. Greer replied: + + "Charlie -- You can tell them that Alexander, Scott, Jones, + Ed Dames, et al are NOT behind, driving, planning or in any + way centrally involved in our project. We are not working + though ANY disinformation groups. They cannot look to the + past and discern the future of these events..." + -- Steven M. Greer, M.D. + +================================================================ + +Don, there's a bit more in Netmail coming your way. + + --- Best regards, Charlie + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2930.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2930.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..fead5bba --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2930.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ + +SUBJECT: APOLLO 13 FILE: UFO2930 + + + + +Date: 06-09Ä92 (21:17) Number: 3872 of 4132 + To: JOHN HICKS Refer#: NONE +From: JIM SANDERS Read: NO +Subj: RE: APOLLO 13 Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE +Conf: UFO (1) Read Type: GENERAL (+) + +JOHN, + + In a message dated 06-07Ä92 you wrote ... + +> Ham/SWL intercepts have been mentioned in connection with ufo +> incidents on other missions too, but of course the problem is that +> anyone who could buy a radio, string up an antenna and talk could have +> made the transmissions. It's the same as the fake mayday calls the CG is +> always chasing. There's never a way to prove that he intercepted +> transmission actually came from the supposed source. +> +> Yes, that's been standard. Supposedly the intent was both to be able +> to catch any words our astronauts shouldn't use in polite company and to +> be able to kill the feed in case an accident occured. +> +> I've heard of that too. Remember the Santa report? So much speculation +> has gone on that it really meant something else that it's probably +> impossible to convince many that it was simply a Christmastime joke. Or +> was it...... + +Messages are much more secure now with the shuttles.. Some of the hams +have some pretty good equipment. As a rule it is NOT the TRUE amatuer +that put out a false transmission and the other characters are usually +located very fast... + +You are a camera man: what happened to all the hand held Hasselbrods +(SP) that they took up... I saw many EXCUSES as to why thay had not +released some of the pics.. such as "forgot to take lens cap off" from a +single lens reflex.. "Left the film pack, forgot" with several people +monitoring a check list of each activity... + +I know that they were supposed to leave the cameras BUT bring the film +back... + +Your opinion and what you have heard... Please... + + + + -=* Jim Sanders *=- +Date: 06-12Ä92 (02:04) Number: 4010 of 4132 + To: RALPH ZAUNER Refer#: NONE +From: JIM SANDERS Read: NO +Subj: RE: APOLLO 13 Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE +Conf: UFO (1) Read Type: GENERAL (+) + +RALPH, + + In a message dated 06-09Ä92 you wrote ... + +> In a message of , Jim Sanders (8:995/113) writes: +> Jim and John, + +> As a Radio Amatuer myself (28 years.. current call N7CSO) I can +> attest to the fact that many strange things can be heard over the +> airwaves... for those of the audience that may own scanners and live in +> or near the Kennedy Space Center the following list of frequencys may be +> usable to you... also those around the world might consider setting up +> a bank of shuttle freq's for the occasional mission that nasa fly's. I +> picked this up off of one of the echoes... possibly even this one a +> while ago... + +Thanks for supporting the "theory". Many people are not aware what fine +equipment many of the amatuers have and their abilities... Your list of +frequencies shows this.. Also what valuable help you are during an +emergency... I am more familar with the OLD MARS which I hope is still +working... Would you like an old National NC-125 in working +condition???? I have one.. :-) but never went any farther... + +Thanks again for the info... + +I would like to have heard some of the direct communications... + + + + + + -=* Jim Sanders *=- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2931.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2931.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..bfc03232 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2931.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +SUBJECT: UFOs SERIOUS BUSINESS FILE: UFO2931 + + + + +[The following is a reprint of an article appearing on The New York Times, +Sunday, February 28, 1960 retrieved via microfilm from the Morris Country +library of New Jersey.] + + + AIR FORCE ORDER + ON 'SAUCERS' CITED + -------------------- + Pamphlet by Inspector + General call Objects a + 'Serious + Business' + --------------------- + + WASHINGTON, Feb. 27 (UPI)-The Air Force has sent its commands a warning to +treat sightings of unidentified flying objects as "serious business" +directly related to the nation's defense, it learned today. An Air Force +spokesman confirmed issuance of the directive after portions +of it were made public by a "private "flying saucer" group. + The new regulations were issued by the Air Force inspector general Dec. +24. + The regulations, revising similar ones issued in the past, outlined +procedures and said that "investigations and analysis of UFO's [sic] are +directly related to the Air Force's responsibility for the defense of the +United States." + + Committee Reveals Document + + Existence of the document was revealed by the Investigations Committee on +Aerial Phenomena. + The privately financed committee accused the Air Force of deception in +publicly describing reports of unidentified flying objects as delusions and +hoaxes while sending the private admonition to its commands. Vice Admiral R. +H. Hillenkoetter (Ret.), a committee board member and +former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, said in a statement that +a copy of the inspector general's warning had been sent to the Senate +Science and Astronautics Committee. + "It is time for the truth to be brought out into the open in Congressional +hearings." he said. + The Air Force confirmed that the document had been issued. A spokesman +said it was put out by Maj. Gen. Richard E. O'Keefe, acting inspector +general at the time, to call attention to revised Air Force regulations +concerning unidentified flying objects. + The statement was included in an "operations and training" pamphlet +circulated at intervals to bring commands up to date. + Pentagon aides said new regulations covering seven printed pages, made no +substantive change in policy but had been rewritten as a matter or course. + The Air Force has investigated 6,312 reports of flying objects since 1947, +including 183 in the last six months of 1959. The latest Air Force +statement issued as month ago said "no physical or material evidence, not +even a minute fragment of a so-called flying sauceer [sic] has ever been +found." + Admiral Hillenkoetter said that "behind the scenes, highranking Air Force +officers are soberly concerned about the UFO's [sic]." + "But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to +believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense," the retired admiral said. +He charged that "to hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its +personnel" through the issuance of a regulation. + -------------------- + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2932.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2932.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..600b3d95 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2932.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,189 @@ +SUBJECT: PETITION TO INDICT FILE: UFO2932 + + + + + +PETITION TO INDICT + +The Government of these United States of America, having been formed under the +Constitution and having been duly elected and appointed by the people of these +United States of America under the terms of the Constitution, has violated the +public trust, terms, conditions and laws of the land as outlined and enshrined +within the Constitution of these United States of America. +To Wit: + +(1) The government has approved and entered into a secret treaty with an Alien +Nation against the terms of the Constitution and without the advise and consent +of the Congress or the people. + +(2) The government in this treaty has given this Alien Nation land and bases +within the borders of these United States of America. + +(3) The government in this treaty has traded human lives and property for the +alien technology and has denied the citizens of these United States of America +the lawful protection due them under the Constitution. The property is in the +form of livestock and land. + +(4) In the taking of human lives, property and livestock of the citizens of +these United States and in the commission of numerous other abominable and +barbarous acts, this Alien Nation has proven to be the mortal enemy of the +people, the nation, and all of humanity. Abductions, surgical operations, +implantations, biological sampling, impregnations, psychological damage, and +other horrors have been and are being performed upon humans by this Alien +Nation. For these reasons a state of war now exists and has existed between the +people of the United States and this Alien Nation. + +(5) In approving of, and participating in the crimes outlined in paragraphs 1, +2, 3, and 4 above, the government is in violation of Article II Section 2, +Article III Section 3 and several other Articles of the Constitution, and is +guilty of and is hereby charged with conspiracy, murder and treason against the +people and the Constitution of these United States of America. + +(6) In the process of aiding and abetting the Alien Nation in the performance of +these crimes against the people, the Nation, and humanity, the government, with +full knowledge and consent, has murdered, incarcerated, forcibly relocated, +brainwashed, drugged, harassed and otherwise interfered unlawfully in the lives +of patriots, including a President of the United States, who have attempted to +expose this murder and treason. + +(7) To keep this secret from the Congress and from the people of these United +States of America, the Government has financed its Alien involvement through the +importation and sale of illegal narcotics to the nations people and specifically +to the nation's youth. The Central Intelligence Agency has been and continues to +be the main instrument in the control of the worlds drug market. "The use of +illegal narcotics to finance the Alien connected projects and other black +projects will identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society", is the +rationalization used by the Government to justify these heinous and treasonous +acts. + +(8) In the pursuit of bringing all those in or out of the government who are +responsible for these acts of conspiracy, murder and treason to justice, the +Trilateral Commission, the President, Vice President, the Director of Central +Intelligence, certain other members of the Central Intelligence Agency, the +Director of the National Security Agency, certain members of the President's +Cabinet, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, those people designated MAJORITY, MAJORITY +TWELVE, MJ-12, MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE (MAJI), the JASON SOCIETY +or JASON SCHOLARS, the DIRECTOR of the SENIOR INTERAGENCY GROUP (SIG), the +National Security Advisor to the President, the Navy Department which has field +operational control of all Alien connected projects, and others having taken +part in the joint government and alien conspiracy are hereby charged with +conspiracy, murder, and treason. This is to include all those who served in +these positions from 1953 up to and including the present administration. + +(9) We call for the impeachment of the President of these United States, George +Bush. He has been a member of MJ-12 and the Trilateral Commission since he was +the President and CEO of Zapata Oil. George Bush organized and has headed the +narcotics smuggling conspiracy since its beginning. The offshore oil platforms +of Zapata Oil were used as staging areas from which the drugs were moved into +these United States from Central and South America without passing through +customs or undergoing inspection of any kind. We firmly believe that George +Bush now heads this shadow government that controls the Alien technology, the +military industrial complex, and thus the Nation. The fact that he is now the +President of these United States of America makes George Bush the most powerful +and dangerous criminal in the history of the world. + +(10) In the interest of preserving the Constitution and the government of these +United States of America, and to save and protect the human race, and for no +other reason, we bring these charges by the authority of the Constitution of +these United States of America, against those named who had full knowledge of +and who willfully participated in the violations of Article II Section 2, +Article III Section 3 and several other Articles of the Constitution of these +United States of America. The government and those individuals named in +paragraph 8 and 9 are hereby charged with conspiracy, murder and treason. + +(11) In the interest of preserving the Constitution and the government of these +United States of America, we ask full pardon in exchange for full disclosure. +We ask the Judicial branch of the government to honor this request for all +guilty conspirators who voice full disclosure by May 30, 1989. We ask the +Judicial branch to give no mercy to those who persist in this conspiracy, murder +and treason. + +(12) We hereby, and in the name of the people and by the authority of the +Constitution, charge the government to cease aiding and abetting and concealing +this Alien Nation which exists within our borders. We charge the government to +cease all conspiracies, operations, projects, treaties, and any other +involvement with this Alien Nation. We charge the government to order this +Alien Nation and all of its members to leave the United States and this earth +immediately, now and for all time, by November 1, 1989, and we charge the +government to enforce this order. We further charge the government to make a +complete disclosure of its alien conspiracy to the American people prior to May +30, 1989 and to make a full accounting for its actions. We charge the Congress +to order this to be done and we charge the Congress to enforce this order. + +(13) Should the Executive, Judicial, and Legislative branches choose to ignore +these charges, we hereby swear upon the Constitution that we will not rest until +this conspiracy and these crimes are exposed to the American people. We swear +on the Constitution that all guilty parties shall be brought to justice. We +swear that we will persist until our death to accomplish these ends in the name +of humanity, the Constitution of these United States of America, and in the name +of all true patriots who have gone before us, we do so swear. + +(14) We firmly believe and know and have evidence that this conspiracy and these +crimes and charges are true and have occurred and is now true and is now +occurring and were and are perpetrated, aided and abetted by those so charged. +This we do swear. + +(15) We hereby, and upon delivery of this document to the members of the Senate +and House of Representatives of the Congress of these United States of America, +serve notice to the world that these charges and this document are now and +forever recorded in history. This document and these charges will not and cannot +ever be revoked by any act, present or future. History alone will be the judge +should the Congress fail to act and we have no fear of that judgement. We +hereby warn each member of the Senate and the House of Representatives of the +Congress of these United States of America that failure to act upon these +charges will forever brand each and every one of you as accessories to the +conspiracy and the crimes outlined in this document. Your children, +grand-children, great-grand-children, and the present and future generations of +the people of these United States of America will not forget and will never +forgive. We warn you now and forever that these United States of America, the +Constitution, and Freedom, has never been in greater danger. We hope and pray +that it is not already to late to save the Nation. + +Being of sound mind and body and with full knowledge of the implications and +consequences of these charges and having only the interest of saving humanity, +preserving the Constitution of these United States, preserving the government of +these United States, and, being patriots, having sworn to preserve and protect +the Constitution of these United States of America do affix our signature to +this document in full affirmation of our dedication and commitment to our sworn +duty. + + +Milton William Cooper +1311 S. Highland #205 +Fullerton, California 92632 + +Many other signatures exist on the original copy of this document. Due to the +historical significance of this document, the document and attached signatures +are being preserved in a safe place for future generations. If Congress acts +upon these charges, the original copy with the attached signatures will be +presented to the Congress in Washington DC at such time that it becomes +necessary. +The other signatories will not be revealed unless Congress acts upon these +charges. It is in this manner that we can guarantee that others may continue to +work to expose this madness should the Congress fail to act. If anything should +happen to me a large network of people exist to carry on our work and eventually +bring the criminals to justice. + + As a witness to these crimes, I respectfully petition the Congress for +protection. My life and the lives of my family are now in danger. I also +respectfully petition the Congress for protection for all other witnesses who +can be produced and for protection of those others who have signed the original +document. I also petition the Congress to take steps to protect the evidence +which we have collected and which is stored in various locations and with +various people throughout the United States. I beg the Congress not to trust +any other government agency with these matters because this conspiracy runs deep +within the government. I beg you to trust only the Congress in these matters. +I also beg the members of Congress who intend to act upon this petition to take +positive steps to protect your own lives. + +Respectfully, + +Milton William Cooper +(714) 680-9537 + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2933.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2933.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8052a018 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2933.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +SUBJECT: COVER-UP OF ALASKA SIGHTING ALLEGED FILE: UFO2933 + + + + +SPECIAL RELEASE: +COVER-UP OF ALASKA SIGHTING ALLEGED + +PARANET ALPHA 08/22 -- The information contained in radar tapes relating +to last November's sighting of a giant UFO by a Japan Airlines crew may +have been altered, says a respected researcher for MUFON. + Writing in the latest issue of California UFO Magazine, T. Scott +Crain of the Mutual UFO Network also claims to have been told by an +informant that "the Air Force did indeed have more than a passing interest +in the event," and that "a number of F-15 jets were scrambled" to search +for a giant walnut-shaped UFO reported by Capt. Kenju Terauchi on Nov. 17, +1986. The informant, an anonymous officer at Elmendorf Air Force Base in +Anchorage, AK, told Crain that, to his knowledge, the jets found nothing +unusual. + The informant said he was "puzzled the tapes didn't reveal another +object, since the radar operators were certain they observed another +target on their screens." + "I don't know how to explain it," Crain quotes the informant, who +told him that "radar tapes record images similar to VCR tapes. If +controllers saw it live, it should be on the tape." + Crain then proceeded to follow the route of the tapes when they were +shipped from Elmendorf and the Anchorage Air Route Traffic Control Center +(ARTCC) to Washington for evaluation by the FAA. Crain was informed by +another UFO investigator that the tapes may have made a detour to the FAA +Technical Center in Atlantic City, NJ. The purpose of the detour may have +been to alter the images, Crain muses. + According to the article, a preliminary investigation found that the +tapes did indeed go to Atlantic City. The March 12, 1987, edition of the +Wall Street Journal reported that "Technical experts in Atlantic City said +blips on a radar screen that appeared to confirm an object in the vicinity +of the JAL jet were actually 'split radar returns' -- shadows of the +plane's primary echo." + Crain followed up with a Freedom of Information Act request to the +FAA in Atlantic City, which was answered by a form letter referring him to +the Public Affairs Office in Anchorage. + +END SPECIAL RELEASE +******************* +COMMENT FOLLOWS + + It should be noted that the FAA never claimed that there was +"nothing" on the tapes, merely nothing that would corroborate Terauchi's +claim. The image did not simply "disappear" from the tape; the FAA is +merely claiming that it was misinterpreted. While I'm not familiar with +the taping of radar images, it occurs to me that to "alter" such an image +to make it appear as a secondary return would require a painstaking pixel- +by-pixel reconstruction of the image in a computer graphics laboratory. +Such technology does, indeed, exist, but we find it highly unlikely. We +will, however, follow up with one of the country's leading computer +graphics labs, which is right here in Phoenix. + We also find it interesting that the Air Force may have scrambled +jets, but we are leery of anonymous sources. + +JS + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2934.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2934.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..03a1c6bd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2934.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +SUBJECT: AMERICANS ASK FOR EXPLANATIONS ON UFOs FILE: UFO2934 + + + + + + U. S. Senator Barry Goldwater (Arizona) is a retired USAF +General, with TOP SECRET CLEARANCE, who attempted to gain +access to a storage facility alleged to contain dead aliens at +Wright-Patterson AFB. He was refused entry since he did not +have, believe it or not, a high enough security clearance. + + On December 3, 1974, Goldwater wrote the following letter: + + "...I made an effort to get in the room at Wright-Patter- +son Field where the information was stored and I was denied +this request, understandably." + + On March 28, 1975, Senator Goldwater wrote again: + + "...The subject of UFOs has interested me for some time. +I made an effort to find out what was in THE BUILDING AT +WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE WHERE THE INFORMATION IS STORED +THAT HAS BEEN COLLECTED BY THE AIR FORCE, and I was denied this +request. IT IS STILL CLASSIFIED ABOVE TOP SECRET..." (Emphasis +Added). + + Other prominent Amercans have also gone on record that +the UFO phenomena is worthy of serious study, for example: + + 1. President Carter asked NASA to explore the +possibility of investigating UFOs. + + 2. When he was in Congress, President Ford called for +Congressional investigations of UFOs. + + 3. Astronaut Gordon Cooper said, "I believe that these +extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this +planet from other planets." + + 4. General Nathan Twining, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs +of Staff and reputed member of MJ-12, wrote a secret memo on +September 23, 1947, in which he stated to the Commanding +General of the Army Air Forces on the subject of "Flying +Discs": +" a. The phenomenon reported is something REAL and not + visionary or fictitious. + b. There are objects probably approximating the shape + of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to + be as large as a man-made aircraft. + c. There is a possibility that some of the incidents + may be caused by natural phenomena, such as + meteors. + d. The reported operating characteristics such as + extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly + in roll), and action which must be considered EVASIVE + when sighted or contacted by friendly aircraft and + radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the + objects are controlled either manually, automatically + or remotely." (Emphasis in Original). + + It is now clear that the U.S. Air Force Project Blue +Book was merely a public relations effort to show something +being "done" about UFOs. It is equally clear that the real +effort was, and continues to be conducted elsewhere. + + + Lawsuits under the Freedom of Information Act have +obtained significant official documentation verifying an on- +going uninterrupted concern with UFO investigations by the Air +Force, belying its publicly stated position on the matter. + A Joint Army Navy Air Force Publication (JANAP 146) +requires reports of any sighting which could be a threat to +national security. UFOs continue to be sighted by military +personnel and are reported under this regulation. + Indeed, important UFO sightings and reports, even before +1969, were not processed under Project Blue Book, but were and +are collected and investigated elsewhere by the military. An +Air Force document dated October 20, 1969, which proposed +termination of Project Blue Book, states, "Reports of +Unidentified Flying Objects which could affect national +security are made in accordance with JANAP 146 or Air Force +Manual 55-11, AND ARE NOT PART OF THE BLUE BOOK SYSTEM +(Emphasis Added)...reports of UFOs which could affect national +security should continue to be handled through standard Air +Force procedure designed for this purpose." This document is +signed by Brigadier General C.H. Bolender, USAF Deputy +Director of Development, and had sixteen attachments which the +Air Force has not released. + JANAP 146 E (1977) states: + a. Sightings within the scope of this chapter... + are to be reported as follows: + 1. While airborne and from land based observers. + (a) Hostile or unidentified single aircraft + or formations of aircraft which appear + to be directed against the United States + or Canada or their forces. + (b) Missles. + (c) Unidentified Flying Objects. + (d) Hostile or unidentified submarines. + (e) ...etc... + + The regulation draws a clear distinction between +"Unidentified Flying Objects," "missles," and unidentified +single aircraft or formations of aircraft." In other words, +UFOs which may be deemed to constitute a threat to national +security under JANAP 146, are considered by the regulation as +something different than missles and aircraft. + + Moreover, the term "UFO," as used in these regulations, +is given very clear definition. Illustrations in Air Force +Intelligence manuals at least as far back as 1953 represent +UFOs as large, disc-shaped craft with transparent domes and +portholes around the edges. A U.S. Navy publication (OPNAV 94- +P-3B), titled "MERINT Radiotelegraph Procedure," shows UFOs as +a separate class from missles and aircraft. In fact, an +illustration under the UFO heading shows a Saturn-shaped disc. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2935.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2935.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d5c88fa3 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2935.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +SUBJECT: JUNG ON UFO COVERUP FILE: UFO2935 + + + + +Sat 3 Oct 92 2:47 +By: Don Allen +To: All +Re: Jung on UFO Coverup +** Forwarded from Usenet ** + +------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Article 8683 of alt.alien.visitors: +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +From: crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu +Subject: Jung on UFO coverup +Message-ID: <1992Sep21.164239.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> +Lines: 20 +Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System) +Nntp-Posting-Host: gold.colorado.edu +Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder +Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1992 23:42:39 GMT +Lines: 20 + +Here's a pertinent quote from Carl Jung: + +"If...the extraterrestrial origin of the phenomena (i.e. UFOs) should +be confirmed...it would be chiefly our science and our technology which +would have to be consigned to the scrap-heap. What such a catastrophe would +mean on the moral plane we can in some sort judge by the ruin of primitive +cultures of which we are the witnesses. *THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE +MACHINES PROVES A SCIENTIFIC TECHNOLOGY, AND ONE IMMENSELY SUPERIOR TO OURS, +ADMIST OF NO TWO OPINIONS.* Just as Pax Britannica put an end to the +disputes between the tribes of Africa, so our world could unroll its Iron +Curtain and use it as scrap iron, with all the millions of tons of guns, +warships and munitions. But we would have been *discovered* and colonised -- +sufficient reason for universal panic! + If we wish to avoid such a catastrophe, the authorities in possession +of important information should not hesitate to enlighten the public as soon +and as completely as possible and should, above all, stop these ridiculous +antics of mysteries and vauge allusions. (Original emphasis) + +Lou + + + +Article 8717 of alt.alien.visitors: +Path: bilver!tous!tarpit!fang!att!att!l +inac!uwm.edu!rutgers!igor.rutgers.edu!klinzhai.rutgers.edu!mcgrew +From: mcgrew@klinzhai.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew) +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: Re: Jung on UFO coverup +Message-ID: +Date: 23 Sep 92 00:50:45 GMT +References: <1992Sep21.164239.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> +<1992Sep22.150742.6466@news.eng.convex.com> +Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. +Lines: 32 + +>> +>>"If...the extraterrestrial origin of the phenomena (i.e. UFOs) should +>>be confirmed...it would be chiefly our science and our technology which + ... + +>Can you provide a reference to where this quote came from? + + Its been a long time since I read it, but its almost certainly from +Jung's UFO book: + +AUTHOR Jung, Carl Gustav, 1875- +TITLE Flying saucers; a modern myth of things seen in the skies. Translated + from the German by R.F.C. Hull. +PUBLISHER London, Routledge & Paul [1959] +DESCRIP 184 p. illus. 19 cm. +NOTES Translation of Ein moderner Mythus. +SUBJECTS Flying saucers. +RLIN ID G59003449B + +from the German: + +AUTHOR Jung, Carl Gustav, 1875- +TITLE Ein moderner Mythus; +PUBLISHER Zurich, Rascher-Verlag, 1958. +DESCRIP 122 p. illus. 23 cm. +SUBJECTS Flying saucers. +LC CARD 58028384 +RLIN ID G014728614-B + +... i.e. the book is from 1958 (Jung died in 1961.) + +Charles + + +** End of article ** + +Don + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2936.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2936.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..42ba95ae --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2936.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,342 @@ +SUBJECT: A UFO CONSPIRACY HYPOTHESIS IN A RELIGIOUS MODE FILE: UFO2936 + + + + + +John White +60 Pound Ridge Road +Cheshire, CT 06410 +203-272-2151 + + +ALIENS AMONG US--A UFO CONSPIRACY HYPOTHESIS IN A RELIGIOUS MODE + +By John White + + Let's play "What If." Recently, John Lear provoked widespread +discussion and debate in the UFO research community by his hypothesis that +aliens (or "Grays") and what is presumed to be a CIA/MJ-12 amalgam have had +a long-time joint venture in which hidden underground bases for alien +activities play a part. Lear characterizes this as nefarious. I agree +with Lear and see aspects to the UFO abduction experience which indicate +there may be even more vast and sinister dimensions to it than Lear has des +cribed. Here is the "worst case scenario" I project. + + The thrust of UFO research is into the metaphysical, where things are +not always as they seem. In the case of the Gray abducting aliens, my +judgment is this: they are diabolical and completely untrustworthy. I get +a strong of sense of conspiracy by them--a vast, subversive plot of long +duration and careful coordination which aims at nothing less than the +complete enslavement of humanity. I see nothing--absolutely nothing--about +their words and deeds which indicates anything but deceit, evasion, +misdirection, manipulation, exploitation and total disregard for human +values, personal property and our concept of respect for the inviolability +of personhood. We humans consider kidnaping and violation of civil rights +to be criminal, rape to be loathsome, brainwashing and mind control to be +heinous, lying to be despicable, unauthorized surgical invasion of the body +to be monstrous, and damage to personal property to be vandalism. The Gray +aliens exhibit such behavior. On the other hand, I know of no behavior by +them which is clearly intended to show respect for our personhood, +property, civil rights, moral values and concern for truthful speech; they +routinely violate all that. As I view the situation, it's a ghastly +picture which emerges. It is not merely alien; it is profoundly evil in +precisely the sense given in the Book of Revelation and other sacred +scriptures which describe a battle between the forces of light and the +forces of darkness for the salvation or damnation of humanity and the +planet. So when abducting aliens say, "We're here to serve you," I take +it to mean they have have cookbook recipes in mind. + + + What follows is a summary of my thoughts on the topic. I acknowledge +at the outset that it is indistinguishable from scaremongering science +fiction novels; I also acknowledge that it has numerous underpinning +assumptions which are open to challenge. (To name just two: are the +alien abductions literally real or are they psychological projections from +the mythic level of the human unconscious, created by overactive, +distraught human minds, and are the MJ-12 documents authentic?) Moreover, +the data on which I hang this scenario are few, tenuous and far from +indisputable. I've deliberately stayed away from discussing this topic in +my public statements on the UFO experience because the evidence for my +position is difficult to describe to an audience which is not +psychologically sophisticated nor parapsychologically educated. Most +people would take the paragraph above as evidence of bizarre mental +disturbance in me bordering on paranoia and religious fantasy, if not +full-blown psychosis. However, I claim to have enough self-awareness and +psychological/psychiatric understanding to say that such is not the case, +but rather is the result of thoughtful observation and analysis leading +logically to a plausible conclusion by a seasoned investigator of the pa- +ranormal. So if the issue of my sanity can be put aside, at least +temporarily, l offer this statement as an hypothesis for discussion of the +most perplexing--and potentially important--aspect of the UFO experience. +I am "floating" it first among members of the Paranormal section of +CompuServe's ISSUES Forum because you are among the most sophisticated, +clear-thinking people I know in this field of wild stories, fuzzy data and +wounded psyches. I welcome the most hard-hitting feedback. I don't claim +to have the "final" answer to the UFO question. I only claim to offer the +following with sincerity, the most rigorous thinking I can bring to it, and +a wish to provoke further discussion and investigation along the line I'm +developing. Of course, it's possible to be sincere but deluded. I am +willing--indeed, eager--to be shown that is so in my case. Therefore, in +hope of the most hard-hitting feedback, and in the interest of +reality-testing, here we go with "What If." + + Let's begin with the humans and/or humanoids who have been reported by +abductees to be present on UFOs, apparently working with/for the aliens. +There are many such reports, most notably that by Travis Walton. If the +Gray aliens have been conducting a genetic experiment or an interspecies +breeding program for at least several decades--which Budd Hopkins' work +indicates--then there could be humans who've been raised under alien +control since infancy and who are thoroughly alien in their loyalties and +psychology, although they certainly would be able to pass as "real" people. + While seeming to be ordinary citizens, they would nevertheless be at least +programmed, if not naturally inclined through psychological bonding, to +identify with the alien culture. + + +Such people could have been raised in an off-world site--say, a base on +the moon or Mars or even a gigantic "mother ship" *--and then reintroduced +to human society, with sufficient training and ongoing support from aliens +to make their way into careers in many fields. Depending on the scope of +the aliens' work--which I take to be happening on an enormous scale--the +abducting aliens/Grays could have hundreds or even thousands of their +people infiltrated into science, industry, finance, politics, education, +the military, etc--with some undoubtedly in positions of great power and +influence. These people could, in turn, have recruited others to various +degrees, creating "cells" in the classic fashion of a resistance movement +preparing to overthrow the establishment. More likely, though, they would +have made their true identity known only to other "aliens among us" and +committed true-human collaborators who have been voluntarily working with +the aliens. + + + This infiltration activity would not be limited to the USA. If the +Gray aliens are doing it here, they're doing it everywhere. Of course, +being scheming and untrustworthy, bent on planetary domination, they would +not have told anything about this to MJ-12 or other official +government/military groups they might have contacted over the decades. And +if they contacted MJ-12 or its successors, we can be fairly certain they've +contacted the Soviet Union and other major powers, but wouldn't have let +each know about the others. The infiltration would represent a hidden +agenda behind their relatively more open agenda with MJ-12. ("Open" is +hardly the right word for an "Above Top Secret" operation, as the MJ-12 +documents have been classified, but the alien infiltration of civilization +would be above even that.) + + In parallel with that infiltration movement would be Manchurian +Candidate-type programming of the abductees and alien-human/humanoids. In +other words, if the Grays' ultimate intention is world control--which is my +conclusion--they've got a couple of ways to get there. The last resort +would be violent takeover, using naked warfare. That would certainly unite +true humans in opposition, and even if the Grays conquered humanity, we +would continue to resist by any and all means, even if our condition were +reduced to the status of POWs at a Hanoi Hilton. No, the aliens would seek +a bloodless takeover by conquering through propaganda and deception. +Remember that American POWs in Korea and Vietnam were continually subjected +to brainwashing because their bodies were captured but not their minds. +The aliens would recognize that and, in order to make their victory +complete, try to indoctrinate us, through covert means, to accept them as +we walk down a garden path, rather than have to "reeducate" some five +billion people in effect held captive as POWs. + + So, the more intelligent approach would be to co-opt the human +race--subvert it through a cultural conditioning control system such as +Jacques Valle suggests in Dimensions. The MJ-12 group and its counterparts +in other nations would be the starting point. Here's where the plot +thickens. In fact, it ties in with more mundane conspiracy theories in the +political sphere which allege that the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, +Trilateralists, Bilderbergers, Council on Foreign Relations and other +groups are the hidden powers and the secret establishments directing world +affairs through international banking and control of the media, education, +science and military/political institutions in order to set up a one-world +social order with themselves at the seats of power. + + There are some plausible arguments for this made by responsible, +credible thinkers and scholars such as Carroll Quigley and Antony Sutton; +there are also some absolutely bozo claims made by head-for-the-hills +survivalists and fringe Christian fundam entalists. I try to assess them +all to see what looks viable, weighing them against my standards of reason, +logic and evidence. Now, it's perfectly clear, thanks to Irangate, that +international conspiracies can and do happen; the question is to what degr +ee and how well coordinated and controlled they are by the alleged secret +powers. Until the last few years, I pretty much dismissed the notion of a +generations-old international conspiracy to set up a one-world order +controlled by international banking in terests such as the Rockefellers and +Rothschilds. I reasoned that if there were one conspiracy, there would be +others, and the net result would be to negate or at least neutralize each +other. No one would gain total control or unassailable ascendancy. The +vagaries of world affairs were just too unpredictable; too many things +could go wrong; people wouldn't stay loyal to such a cause all their lives; +evidence of it simply couldn't be covered up forever. + + Then the Gray aliens came into view, and the situation took on a +wholly different complexion. + + + If the aliens have secretly planted their agents throughout civilization +for decades and if they are pursuing contact with the top echelons of power +here in the USA via MJ-12 and its successors--as suggested by reports of +Project Aquarius, Project Sigma, Project Garnet and Project Snowbird in +Jerome Clark's four-part review of UFO crash/retrievals in Fate earlier +this year--then over the years they could have been playing out a hand that +was strategized nowhere but in Hell. Look at the membership of +those power groups such as MJ-12. They lead straight into the heart of the +most disturbing "conventional" conspiracy theories about international +finance and military/political intrigue. For example, consider the Skull +and Bones Society at Yale. It is, from the political conspiracy theorists' +point of view, the quintessential "evil empire" within the USA. George +Bush, McGeorge Bundy, and a large number of the Trilateral Commission +members and the Council of Foreign Relations were tapped by this secret +society while they were undergraduates at Yale and were bound by an oath of +secrecy to loyalty to the "Bones" purpose, which goes far, far beyond +simple collegial fraternity and the typical "good ol' boy" network. + + + The conspiracy theorists say that the aim of all this is to covertly +create a new world order in which the secret establishment becomes the +hidden power controlling global affairs--its economy, science, industry, +religion, education, technology, etc., even while maintaining for the +masses a facade of increasing freedom and prosperity for the world. +Nationhood would wither away, but political power would not. It would be +consolidated behind a screen through the fraternal bonds of men (Skull and +Bon es excludes women) whose aims and loyalty are not to any country or +group except their own transnational cabal. + + + Imagine that such a conspiracy has been going on for decades; that +would explain US State Department approval of high-technology transfer from +American industry to the Soviet Union, even when it ends up used against +America in military situations, and multimillion dollar bank loans to the +Soviet Union with no assurances sought that they won't be used to +underwrite anti-American activities. Then imagine that the aliens not only +know of the conspiracy and understand its operations, but have also +cunningly schemed to infiltrate it and co-opt it by pretending to establish +friendly but secret relations with it. What would be the nature of the +directing intelligence behind the aliens' scheme? It seems to me that the +Gray aliens alone are not smart enough or powerful enough to pull it off, +despite their technological edge. I see it like this: + + The aliens are glad to let the human conspirators continue their work +aimed at world domination because the humans don't realize the danger +they've gotten into by making what is in reality a diabolical pact. The +human secret establishment thinks it's simply got an edge by making +contact with the aliens because the aliens can provide advanced technology +to help the power brokers advance their scheme; all they have to do is let +the aliens continue with their "scientific" work of abducting people for +"examination." But the aliens' intention is to be the power behind the power +behind the throne. And the MJ-12 successors played right into their hands. + + + When John Lear says the MJ-12 team is scared of what they've gotten +into, he would be right if the people involved have begun to realize the +magnitude of the deadly game they've been suckered into--which seems +likely. Just as they see their "final" victory nearing--i.e., global +affairs are tending well for the establishment of a one-world order, +exactly as they've been working for over decades--the aliens trump them and +in effect the secret establishment itself becomes subtly, secretly but +inescapably enslaved, exactly as they sought to do to others. A delicious +irony there--but don't laugh too loud about it because the situation, if +I'm correct, is appalling. It's the Book of Revelation coming true: a +titanic war in the heavens between the powers of light and the powers of +darkness for the liberation or enslavement of all humanity. + + + Now, return to those alien-raised humans and humanoids. If the aliens +are as knowledgeable about human psychology, physiology and anatomy as UFO +research indicates--i.e., reports show that they can completely control the +human nervous system, effect instant healings, alter memory, perform +precise surgical operations on the brain and visceral organs--then they are +wholly competent to "program" human beings to react in certain ways upon +signal. Under hypnosis, abductee Betty Andreasson stated repeatedly in +The Andreasson Affair--Phase Two that she would reveal something in the +future when the time is right as determined by the aliens; quite +independently, her future husband, Bob Luca, received exactly the same +mental programming from abducting Grays. + + Thus, the alien-humans would undoubtedly be programmed to rise up with +violence and armed warfare if the aliens felt it necessary to achieve their +aims in extremis. Imagine hundreds of thousands of Manchurian Candidates, +each programmed to eliminate/assa ssinate designated leaders and officials +so that the aliens' hand-picked candidates can come forward. Far out? Not +in the shadowy world of subversion, political intrigue and life-or-death +struggle for conquest of Planet Earth. + + Where do all the alien-humans come from? Many would undoubtedly be +bred in vitro from sperm and ova, but many others would have been obtained +the easy way--by kidnaping children. An estimated one million children are +missing in the USA each year. Where could they all go? If just one percent +of them were abducted by aliens, that's a sizable population to work with at +off-world bases. + + + If you will grant the plausibility of this admittedly fantastic +scenario so far, it then makes sense to say that the Gray aliens are not +the "ultimate" type of beings contacting us in this matter. They are +alien, through I'm not convinced they're extraterrestrial. However, it +appears there is another "race" behind the Gray aliens, covertly directing +their activities. This "race" is not merely "alien"--it is evil. It is +truly sinister, malevolent and unswervingly committed to the damnation of +all humanity--and it is definitely not extraterrestrial. These +intelligences have been characterized in ancient scriptures and sacred +traditions as native to Earth, demonic, hostile to our very existence as +free people and intent upon dominating us totally--physically, mentally +and spiritually. St. Paul spoke of humanity contending with "powers and +principalities." My reason, research and personal experience lead me to +conclude that such entities are ontologically real, albeit paraphysical. I +see the hand of such intelligences behind much of the UFO phenomenon. I +will even name the chief entity, using its Judeo-Christian appellation: +Lucifer/Satan. To say more than that in a meaningful manner, however, +would take several more kilobytes. I am prepared to g et into the issue of +Lucifer/Satan and its nature, purpose and role in the UFO experience, but +that will depend on my assessment of the response to this discussion. + + In closing, I will say that, in my judgment, we humans are not alone +against forces of darkness. I also see benign and even benevolent "alien +intelligences" here as well, trying to assist us in this struggle for +psychobiological integrity, spiritua l advancement and true planetary +unity, as Brad Steiger suggests in The Fellowship. We are surrounded by +"angels unawares" who, as agents of godliness, seek in subtle ways to guide +and protect us. For example, the beings of light whom people meet during +near-death experiences (NDE) are providing tremendous support for humanity +in what I see as a struggle between the forces of light and darkness. The +light-beings' nature is clearly evident by the effect they have upon human +lives. Completely unlike the abducting Gray aliens, the NDE light-beings +produce no traumatic consequences on people whatsoever. Humans who meet +them while in the near-death state report later that they sensed only +unconditional love and forgiveness for misdeeds radiating wordlessly from +these entities. Abducting aliens induce fear and long-lasting anxiety, +disturbing dreams and a disturbed personality; NDE light-beings have an +aftereffect which brings people a sense of ultimate peace, cosmic goodness, +reverence for life, deepened spi rituality, concern for fellow humans and +the environment--a general revaluing of a materialistic, egotistic +life-style in the name of God and Love. Here in America alone, an +estimated 8,000,000 people have undergone an NDE. If America is the +leading edge of a millennial demonic invasion, as I'm postulating, it is +also the site of an even greater number of transformative, uplifting, +inspiring encounters with entities traditionally called angels, saints and +enlightened teachers. And such activity must be happening around the +globe. Does this not indicate a colossal support system of metaphysical +forces which intend salvation for humanity, building in opposition to what +I have posited as a hellish plot aimed at complete enslavement of humanity +and Planet Earth? + ------------------ + + * In 1972, while visiting the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, +California, I learned from my guide--a JPL employee--that the facility had +analyzed many UFO photographs. My guide told me that JPL had explained +away all of them except one. That one, he told me, was taken by a man who +provided such good information about the time of day, location, camera and +film that JPL, after using computer enhancement of the photo, could offer +only two explanations. The man who submitted the photo said he saw a UFO +passing in front of the moon. JPL would not confirm it but said there +definitely was something real in the photo. The only trouble was that they +couldn't tell if it was a small object about two feet in front of the +camera or something 1,000 miles long at a distance of 100,000 miles from +Earth. A mother ship? + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2937.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2937.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f62b299a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2937.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +SUBJECT: AREA 51 LAND SEZIURE FILE: UFO2937 + + + + + +Date: 10-31-93 (21:43) Number: 24140 of 24853 (Refer# NONE) + To: ALL +From: MICHAEL CURTA +Subj: AREA 51 LAND SEZIURE +Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) +Conf: Fidonet_UFO (21) Read Type: GENERAL + + +Dear Fellow Researchers, + +I am writing you today to ask for your help. + +Please write your Congressperson, Senators, and Interior Secretary Bruce Babbit +asking that they STOP the seizure of the Groom Mountain Range in Nevada. + +The proposed seizure of 3,900 acres just outside the famed Area 51 is just one +more ploy by the military to make themselves unaccountable to anyone! Hell, +the Base Commander is not allowed into Area 51. + +If the Base Commander, Congress or Senators can not keep tabs on them, then we +as Americans MUST! Nellis AFB. and the Test Site that surrounds it now covers +some 3.1 million acres. What could they possibly do with 3,900 more acres that +they can't do with the more then 3 million acres that they already have? Deny +people access to public land? Put an end to the checks and balance system of +govenment? + +While the military must have secrets, it is also true me as citizens must have +a right to free access to public land. The military should not be able to +seive land for no other reason then to keep people off of a mountain. If the +military were to use the land for a visitors center or a golf course then I +would have no problem with the seizure. + +Please help make YOUR military accountable before it's too Late. + +Write your government officials today! + + +Regards, +Michael. + + +Michael Curta +P.O. Box 470776 +Aurora, CO. 80047-0776 + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2938.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2938.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..68bb1a66 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2938.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,2003 @@ +SUBJECT: ASSORTED LAZAR FILES FILE: UFO2938 + + + + +072/417 11 Nov 89 03:25:00 +From: Michael Corbin +To: All +Subj: For Immediate Release +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +November 10, 1989 + + ParaNet Information Service (Denver, CO)--This evening saw +perhaps an unprecedented event in UFOlogy. KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, +Nevada has been airing a UFO special during the evening news +which began on Monday dealing with the UFO mystery and cover-up. +The series, which has been covered by ParaNet, began its coverage +with a history of UFOs beginning in the late 1940s and moving +forward through the numerous sighting reports to the cattle +mutilations, which was aired last evening. As promised at the +close of last evening's show, George Knapp, a news anchorman for +Channel 8 in Vegas, stated that a scientific person would be +featured on tonight's program who has claimed to work at Area 51, +the government's super-secret test range at Nellis AFB in Nevada. +Indeed, quite a story was told by Robert Lazar, a physicist who +claimed that he had worked on a project at Area 51 involving +flying disks provided by alien intelligences. + Over the last year, ParaNet has carried stories relating to +possible involvement with the government in projects of this +nature at the Nevada test site. Up to now, the stories have been +of a very speculative nature. Although the material presented by +Robert Lazar remains unconfirmed, enough information has been +disclosed that ParaNet's large investigative staff in Nevada has +started an intensive investigation into this release. It is +interesting to note that Robert Lazar is an associate of John +Lear and has been providing this information to Lear over the +last few months. Lear has appeared on Channel 8 on numerous +occasions together will Bill Cooper discussing Lear's famous 'ET +Hypothesis.' According to Lear, Lazar was instrumental in +providing Lear with locations overlooking the test site which +would provide a good view of the objects as they flew into the +night sky. Lear attempted to shoot video of an object as it +maneuvered through the night sky during last summer, however +nothing was captured on the tape of a substantive nature. Lear +also relates that his group was harassed by a Lincoln County +sheriff following his attempts to take the pictures. + Below is a transcript of the program that aired this +evening. All paragraphs out of quotes are the narrator of the +segment. We were as accurate as possible on the transcription, +however there are a couple of places where comments were edited +out due to inability to understand what was being said. + Further reports will be provided as information becomes +available. +================================================================= + + We've been working on the story for some time....UFO +researchers claim that there is a secret government within our +government. Now this may be hard to believe coming from the UFO +perspective, but we have learned that Watergate and the Iran +Contra scandal that factions within our government can and do +pursue their own hidden agendas outside of the law; outside the +control of the Congress or the knowledge of the American people. +This is exactly the type of operation that we hear about tonight. +It's a chilling scenario with worldwide implications that may +have its roots right here [Las Vegas, Nevada]. + Area 51, that mysterious corner of the Nevada Test Site, is +no longer considered a secret. The fact that secretive things +go on here isn't evident; even to the Soviets who make daily spy +flights over the facility to take a peek at what's going on. +These photos, never before shown in public, are about as close as +anyone will ever come to seeing what the place looks like again. +The dry bed at Groom Lake, the corrugated buildings, a three-mile +long runway and some highly sophisticated radar and detection +equipment. Its been known by many names over the years -- +Dreamland; The Ranch; The Skunk Works. If ever there was a place +to test the secret new technology, this is it. And that's +exactly what has been done here for decades. + Area 51 is where Francis Gary Powers and the other U-2 +pilots were trained in the 50s. And, where the U-2 itself was +developed. The SR-71 spy plane that spotted Soviet missiles in +Cuba in the early 60s were also developed at 51. 51 is where +Stealth technology was nurtured, where Star Wars devices are +still tested, and where all manner of CIA [unknown] business has +been plotted and refined. It's the perfect place for secret +things, but of course, that's no secret. 51 is ringed by the +forbidden vastness of the Nevada test site; by the looming Groom +Mountain and by sparsely populated desert expanses. But the +people that do live out here have no love lost for the military, +but they're conservative, patriotic and they mind their own +business. + + + +--- FD 2.00 + * Origin: ParaNet Administration =->Voice 303-232-8303<-= (1:104/428) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 395/20 1063/304 30163/150 401 + + +088/417 14 Nov 89 03:22:00 +From: Robert Klinn +To: All +Subj: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret UFO Base? +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +With two top local TV stations here in Las Vegas -- KLAS-TV and KTNV-TV -- +carrying deadly serious news reports this week of real alien UFOs POSSIBLY +being flown out of the supersecret Area 51, that portion of the U.S. +Government's Nevada Test Site which the Air Force refuses to acknowledge as +even existing, the situation here appears like The War of the Worlds. +Disinformation? Reality? +What next? +At KTNV-TV, photographer Clay Downey and reporter Glen Meek are tracking down +the nature of the on-going projects at Area 51. Off-air, Meek says he has +discovered that Area 51 is comprised of four sections. Of those, he has +learned the type of activity occurring at two of them. He has been having much +difficulty learning the type of activity occurring at the other two. +KTNV will broadcast reports this week at 5:30 p.m. Wed., Thurs, & Fri. +In a videotape presented by KLAS-TV newsman George Knapp, a UFO performs abrupt +manuevers over what may be the "S-4" portion of Area 51 at the Test Site. +Knapp's final report will be broadcast tonight, Tuesday at approximately 6:15 +p.m. +Knapp's star witness is scientist Robert Lazar, who drew a picture of the craft +he saw operating at the base. +Lazar emphatically claims these are alien craft -- not human-made devices. +Lazar says at least one UFO appeared to have been ruptured by a projectile. +War of the Worlds? +Robert B. Klinn +--- QuickBBS v2.04 + * Origin: -==- Denver, CO (303)232-6115 (1:104/422) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 395/20 1063/304 30163/150 401 + + +097/417 15 Nov 89 01:55:00 +From: Michael Corbin +To: All +Subj: Installment on Dreamland continued. +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +November 13, 1989 + + ParaNet Information Service (Denver, CO) -- In our +continuing coverage of the remarkable revelations coming out of +Las Vegas, Nevada, here is the next installment to the program +aired on November 13, 1989 by television station KLAS-TV and +George Knapp. + +================================================================= +News Anchor persons: + A former government scientist has alleged that the U.S. +military is flying recovered UFOs at a secret base in the Nevada +desert. The allegations about the secret facility near the Groom +Mountains first surfaced on Eyewitness News on last Friday +[November 10, 1989]. + Scientist Bob Lazar says that there are at least nine of the +flying saucers being tested and that they were not built on +Earth. George Knapp has more on the continuation of our series +on UFOs. + +Lazar: "Yeah. It was obvious it came from somewhere else, uh, +other than Earth." + + Scientist Bob Lazar was convinced that the technology he saw +being tested at a secret base in the Nevada desert is of alien +origin, and for Lazar the proof is, at least, partially in the +furniture. One of the nine flying disks he says he saw at the +base, which was designated S-4, looks exactly like this UFO +photographed in Europe [Photo of UFO shown]. Lazar called it +the "sport model." + +Lazar: "I gave everything names -- the top hat one and you know +the jello mold and, uh, the sport model operated without any +hitches at all. I mean, it looked new. If I knew what a new +flying saucer looked like. One of them looked like it was hit +with some sort of a projectile. It had a large hole in the +bottom and a large hole in the top with the metal bent out like +some sort of, you know, large caliber 4 or 5 inch had gone +through it." + + Even before he saw the sport model operate, Lazar says, he +suspected that the ship came from somewhere else. The +realization slapped him in the face the first time he glimpsed +the inside of the disk. + +Lazar: "I got to look inside and it had really small chairs. I +think that was the first confirmation I had. That was just a +shocking thing because everytime before that I was able to label +it. This is just a little advance that a group of scientists had +formed and, you know, they're keeping it secret, and yeah, we +could have built a big disk like that, and yeah, that's no +problem, and, you know, we could have adapted the use(?) to make +it fly, but why does it have little furniture inside? [garbled]. +And things began to click together just all too fast." + + A few of the disks had been completely dismantled to find +out how they worked, Lazar says, but others were fully +operational. A Japanese TV network created this animated version +of Lazar's story after his first interview with us aired in May +[showing video]. Lazar says the dramatization is similar to a +test flight he witnessed. + +Lazar: "The bottom of it glowed blue and began to hiss like any, +like high voltage does on a round sphere. It's my impression +that the reason that they're round and have no sharp edges is to +contain the high voltage like, uh, if you've seen a high voltage +system's insulators -- things are round or else you get a corona +discharge. In either case, it began to hiss as in high voltage +and it lifted off the ground quietly except for that little hiss +in the background, and that stopped as soon as it reached about +20 or 30 feet." + + Lazar says the test of the sport model was a short one -- +that it made only a few moves before setting back down. He +didn't see who was actually flying the craft, but was very +impressed, nonetheless. + +Lazar: "Well, there's no action reaction system to it. There's +no, like in a jet engine, exhaust gas being thrown out -- no +propeller, no noise. It's just, for all intents and purposes, +magic." + + To Lazar's knowledge, the flying disks are not being used, +for say, any flights to Jupiter. He said excessive caution and +intense secrecy contributed to the plodding pace of the program +and were a main source of his disenchantment. + +Lazar: "It's just unfair, outright, not to put it in the hands +of the overall scientific community. There are people much more +capable of dealing with this information, and by this time would +have gotten a lot further along than this small select group of +people working out in the middle of the desert. They don't even +have the facilities, really, to completely analyze what they're +dealing with." + +Gene Huff: "Well he was being quiet. If he kept me abreast of +anything, he kept me abreast of the security checks -- they'd +randomly drop by his house. They'd threaten his life; they'd +threaten his wife's life. They had done all that so we really +didn't converse, I mean, he really was adhering to the program." + + Gene Huff is a Las Vegas real estate appraiser. A regular +guy who just happens to have a friend in the flying saucer +business. He learned about Lazar's S-4 experiences only after a +long period. Lazar is anxious for people to know that he didn't +just run right out and spill the secrets of the universe, and +that some things are properly kept confidential. + +Lazar: "I did not believe that this should be a security matter. +Some of it, sure. But, just the concept that there's definite +proof, and uh, we even have articles from another world, another +system, you just can't not tell everyone. A lot of people don't +believe that. But, I do." + + When he reached what he felt was his bursting point, he took +Huff and a few others to the edge of the Groom Mountains to see +the flights for themselves. A total of five witnesses on two +consecutive weeks managed to dodge security patrols long enough +to see the strange glowing object lift above the mountain. + +Huff(?): "Uh, it came up above the same mountain. It moved +around. It did a step move -- it actually went up in the air +like this [showing details with hands] and it hovered then +dropped way down then it just floated around and cruised around. +It starts coming up the mountain range...." + + This home video tape was recorded during one of the trips to +the Groom Mountains [showing video tape. A lot of +talking....Object in sight....Mention of brightness of the +object....]. + Admittedly, the tape proves very little by itself because, +with the distance and darkness, there are no reference points +other than the alleged flying disk, but Lazar's information about +the time and location of the test flight proves correct -- not +once but twice. That, according to our off-camera interviews +with each of the other witnesses. Gene Huff describes his second +sighting: + +Huff: "Through the telescope we could see an elliptical-shaped +light. You can only get so close even with a telescope to a +secure facility. Anyway, it came up by us very rapidly. It +glowed and glows brighter like a star and we almost got the +feeling that it was going to explode, it glowed so brightly. We +backed up behind the car then it went down and glowed back up a +little bit and then very softly glided back over, back where the +mountains where it came up, hovered for awhile, and then that's +that....Just like you see in the movies." + + Bob Lazar isn't the only person to claim "inside knowledge" +of the flying disks at the test site -- he is just the only +person to say so publicly. We have communicated with several +people who say they know of the saucer program. A technician in +a highly sensitive position told us it is "common knowledge among +those with high security clearances that recovered alien disks +are stored at the Nevada test site." A Las Vegas professional, +who once served in the military and was stationed at the test +site, said he saw a flying disk land outside the boundaries of +Area 51 -- that it was quickly surrounded by security personnel +and that he was taken away and debriefed for several hours. A +man who once worked at Groom Lake as a technician, at our +request, wrote this letter explaining how he inadvertently walked +into the wrong hangar and saw what appeared to be a large +metallic disk under a tarp. It was being examined by men in lab +coats. And, an airman who worked at Nellis at a radar +installation says he and his fellow servicemen watched over a +period of five nights, unusual objects flying over the Groom +Mountains. He says the radar images indicates the objects zoomed +into range at speeds of 7,000 miles per hour and then would stop +on a dime, and that nothing we have is capable of doing that. +The airman says that when word of his sighting got out, he was +ordered to turn off his radar sensors for that area and told to +keep quiet about the matter because it did not happen. + None of this means that the military is actually flying +alien spacecraft in the Nevada desert. It could all perhaps be +explained as some other secret program. Lazar insists that's not +the case. + We put the matter to the U.S. Navy, which according to +Lazar, is running the saucer show. Four different naval offices +were contacted. All denied having any information in their +files. The Naval Research Lab said it conducted a thorough +search but found "zip." Naval Intelligence said much the same +thing, adding, it is not required to create a file where one +doesn't exist. A side note: We also requested files on a UFO +sighting over Tremonton, Utah in 1952. The Navy spent more than +a thousand hours studying film of that sighting -- a fact that's +been noted in several publications -- but, for purposes of our +request, the Navy couldn't find those files either. + +Lazar: "The group that runs this project, whether it really is +the Navy or they just say that, apparently these people have +executive power -- they don't report to anyone." + + Tomorrow, more troubling allegations of the military +potential of alien technology. + +================================================================= + +This file is available on ParaNet as Area51-2.ufo. + +--- FD 2.00 + * Origin: ParaNet Administration =->Voice 303-232-8303<-= (1:104/428) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 395/20 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 30163/150 401 + + +146/417 20 Nov 89 00:16:00 +From: Michael Corbin +To: All +Subj: More on Lazar and Dreamland/Area 51 +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +November 14, 1989 + + ParaNet Information Service (Denver, CO) -- In our +continuing coverage of the Riddle of Area 51, here is yet another +installment of the KLAS-TV program being aired in Las Vegas, +Nevada featuring Bob Lazar, who has 'come out of the closet' so +to speak with information regarding government testing of UFOs. + +================================================================= + + Just over this ridge [showing a photo of Area 51], tucked +inside the test tubes of a hidden government base, the secrets of +the universe may be unfolding. The area is designated S-4, and +according to one man who claims to have worked there, S-4 harbors +scientific achievements that would astonish our deepest +thinkers. It is technology that, if it exists, could change the +world, but is allegedly bottled up by military minds. + +Lazar: "It's not an overall government project. It's not +something that Congress appropriates money for. 2 billion is for +this; 15 billion for flying saucers; 8 billion for Star Wars. It +doesn't go like that. I don't believe that they have any +knowledge of it at all." + + The technology that Bob Lazar says he saw extends far beyond +flying saucers. An anti-matter reactor allows the spaceships to +produce their own gravitational fields, he says, such a +technology, if real, would answer UFO skeptics who argue that +aliens could never visit Earth because the distances between +worlds are too great, even at the speed of light. + +Lazar: "Gravity distorts time and space. Just like if you had a +water bed and put a bowling ball in the middle. It warps it down +like that -- that's exactly what happens to space. Imagining +that you were in a spacecraft that could exert a tremendous +gravitational field by itself you could sit on any particular +place and turn on the gravity generator and actually warp space +and time, and fold it. By shutting that off, you'd click back +and you'd be a tremendous distance from where you were but time +would not have even moved because you essentially shut it off. I +mean it is so far fetched, people....it's difficult for people to +grasp, and as stubborn as the scientific community is they'll +never buy it, but this is, in fact, that's just what happens." + + Actually, Lazar's explanation is very close to mainstream +scientific thought, and can be traced directly to Einstein. The +difference is scientists regard it as theory only. There is much +that science still doesn't know. + +Dale Etheridge (Scientist): "There are people who say that our +main problem with that is we don't know what gravity is. It's +this magical force that acts at a distance. We can describe how +it behaves -- that's what the law of gravity is -- it's just a +description of how it behaves, but it says nothing about what +gravity really is." + + + We'll use Etheridge as our barometer of scientific thought. +He says we cannot produce gravity; that there's no such thing as +a working anti-matter reactor, and that we have yet to figure out +a way to get around the speed of light. He also concedes, +though, such things are possible. + +Etheridge: "Yeah. And really we don't know what's possible as +there could be other civilizations out there several hundred +years or so -- a thousand years, even a million years ahead of +us -- that have found a way to circumvent this. We have no way +of knowing for sure." + +Lazar: "Well, the thing is when you harness gravity, you harness +everything. It's the missing piece in physics right now. We +really know very little about gravity." + + At least that's the way it used to be. Lazar says the +technology to harness gravity not only exists but is being tested +at S-4. And, if such technology is beyond human capabilities, it +must have come from someplace else. It's more than conjecture, +he says, because he also saw an element that cannot be found on +the periodic chart. The element, called 115, can be stored in +lead casings much like this one [showing a lead circular +container]. Lazar says the government has 500 pounds of it, and +it cannot be made on earth. + +Lazar: "It would be almost impossible; well, it is impossible to +synthesize an element that heavy here on Earth." + +Interviewer: "At least right now." + +Lazar: "I don't think that you can ever synthesize it. The +amount of....you essentially have to assemble it by bombarding it +with protons if....atom by atom, it would take an infinite amount +of power and an infinite amount of time. The substance has to +come from a place where super-heavy elements could have been +produced naturally. + + And what sort of place is that? + +Lazar: "Next to a much larger sun where there would be greater +mass. Maybe a binary star system -- a super-nova -- somewhere +where there is just a bigger release of energy to synthesize +these things naturally. It has to be a naturally occurring +element." + + 115 is the fuel for the anti-matter reactors, he says. By +bombarding 115 anti-matter is produced. A kilo of anti-matter +could produce the energy equivalent of 46 ten-megaton hydrogen +bombs, and comparing the energy potential of anti-matter to, say, +the Hoover Dam would be like comparing planets to grains of sand. +115 could also make one heck of a bomb. + +Lazar: "We're talking about hundreds and hundreds of megatons +off a small piece of it. It sounds incredible, but total +conversion of matter to energy would release that amount of +power. And it isn't that difficult to take....get the energy out +of it. So it's not something you'd ever want to fall anyone's +hands." + + The dangers associated with 115 and anti-matter may be the +reason Lazar was hired to work at S-4. There was an accident, he +says, back in April 1987. An accident that was passed off as an +unannounced nuclear test. + +Lazar: "Some people got killed. I was told flat out I was one +of the people that were to replace these guys." + + Is this why the government might be keeping the whole matter +a secret? Because of the military potential of alien technology? +Lazar says he believes the Soviet Union was once part of our +research on the flying disks, but that the U.S. kicked the +Soviets out after making some sort of discovery. He also +believes the program at S-4 is operated with funds allocated to +Star Wars research, but says he can't prove it. Some UFO +researchers suspect the government is test flying alien craft so +that it can one day master the technology and claim it was made +in the good old U.S.A., thus obscuring the possibility of alien +visitations. + +Stanton T. Friedman: "I think they have the duty to inform us. +At least to the bare bones of what's going on. I don't want +technological stuff put out on the table. I mean, I worked on +classified projects for 15 years, and I don't think we need +another weapon's delivery system. But I think the government +does have the responsibility to release information that, indeed, +the planet is being visited. Probably it should be done in +conjunction with the Soviets." + +Lazar: "I don't think that it will get to that level. They're +not going to have a fleet of them and fly them around and....I +don't think you need to do that. If you're looking at them from +a weapons point of view, you're looking at an incredibly powerful +device. You only need one to operate. You don't ever need to +come public with it. You may want to learn more about it should +it ever break which is....might be what they're doing. Uh...." + +Interviewer: "They've got one...." + +Lazar: "Oh, they've got a few. Yeah." + + Lazar is the first to admit that his story is tough to +swallow. He submitted to polygraph exams that opened up +sensitive parts of his personal life, and fully expects to be +ridiculed or perhaps punished for his revelations. His desire to +explain what really happened at S-4 took us to Layne Keck, a +licensed experienced hypnotherapist who quietly and privately +tried to help Lazar remember details of the many briefing papers +he says he read. + +Keck: "I have no clue as to what we were getting to, and he +started saying that there were pictures of what I thought was +desks on the wall. Well as it turned out, it was disks that he +was referring to. And, at that moment, I realized we were into +something that was pretty heavy." + + Keck does not exaggerate his claims for hypnosis. He +regards it as a useful tool for uncovering some lost memory. He +says people are quite capable of lying under hypnosis, but says +the technique can be of help in determining truth. What's his +opinion of Lazar's truthfulness? + +Keck: "It tells me that his subconscious mind believes totally +all of these things." + + Lazar has long suspected that his government employers used +some sort of mind control technique to prevent him from +disclosing too much about S-4. While he says he has vivid +conscious memories of the saucers and other technology there were +other memories, that even now, remained locked, which is why he +sought out Keck in the first place. Keck is convinced that +someone really did mess with Lazar's head. + +Keck: "Also they used primitive fear in threatening those in his +environment if he did bring this information forth. Also, it +appears that maybe there were some chemicals used." + +Lazar: "Nah, I'm not going to change anyone's mind. That not my +intention. I'm just relaying the experience. The job that I +went through. It is a fantastic thing. It's a fantastic story. +I can't take people there to show them what was going on, and uh, +you know, I don't expect anyone to believe it." + + What if he is right? What if aliens are here? How would +this change our view of the world? Our most fundamental beliefs, +which is religion? We'll know more on that tomorrow. + +================================================================= + +--- FD 2.00 + * Origin: ParaNet Administration =->Voice 303-232-8303<-= (1:104/428) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 30163/22 150 401 + + +159/417 21 Nov 89 22:38:00 +From: Robert Klinn +To: Bryon Smith +Subj: Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base? +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +The time for the KLAS-TV (Channel 8), Las Vegas, report is Saturday, November +25, 1989, 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. The program is titled, "UFOs: The +Evidence." Producer George Knapp says it will include the substance as well as +updates of material recently broadcast as the nine-part series, "UFOs: The +Best Evidence." (Incidentally, each of those nine parts was approximately 15 +minutes, not one hour.) +Knapp also says that while he is personally interested in more UFO material +about Area 51, there is no more budget at his station to pursue it. This +contrasts with his on-air statement last week at the end of the ninth segment +of the series, to the effect that the Area 51/S-4/Robert Lazar/recovered alien +vehicles investigation is continuing; also earlier in the series, he had said +that this was only the beginning, that the investigation is "by no means" over. +--- QuickBBS v2.04 + * Origin: -==- Denver, CO (303)232-6115 (1:104/422) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 30163/22 150 401 + + +166/417 22 Nov 89 19:41:00 +From: Robert Klinn +To: All +Subj: Robert Lazar on KVEG-AM +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +Theoretical physicist Robert Lazar and friend Las Vegas realtor Gene Huff -- +in-studio guests on "Billy Goodman's Happening" live talk show, KVEG 840-AM +Radio, 10:00 p.m. 11/21/89 until 1:00 a.m. 11/22/89 -- answered questions for +three hours. +--- QuickBBS v2.04 + * Origin: -==- Denver, CO (303)232-6115 (1:104/422) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/22 150 401 + + +168/417 22 Nov 89 20:55:00 +From: Michael Corbin +To: All +Subj: Update: Area 51 +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +CONTRIBUTED BY: Robert B. Klinn, ParaNet Director of + Investigations/Research +======================================================== +(C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service +======================================================== +Theoretical physicist Robert Lazar and his friend, Las Vegas realtor, Gene +Huff -- in-studio guests on "Billy Goodman's Happening" live talk +show, KVEG 840-AM Radio, 10:00 p.m. 11/21/89 until 1:00 a.m. +11/22/89 -- answered questions for three hours. + +These notes were compiled from 10:20 p.m., thus missing 20 minutes +(10:00 - 10:20 p.m.) of the three-hour program. + +Lazar says he is tired. + +1. Lazar's Purpose In Going On-Air: +Although Lazar's main stated purpose in appearing on the broadcast is to +protect himself, caller Bill Cooper says one of Lazar's motives is +anger -- previously expressed privately to Cooper -- that billions of +dollars are needlessly wasted in the normal U.S. sectors by those without +access to this alien technology. Lazar agrees. + +Lazar says another reason for his appearing is to correct incorrect +information he had heard on previous broadcasts. + +Billy Goodman says Lazar's, Bill Cooper's, and John Lear's lives are on +the line and that Lazar's best protection is the media, which is keeping +Lazar alive. + +Lazar hopes "other people out there" working at S-4 will loosen up, come +forward, and join with him to present their information as one, as a +group. He doesn't want to be "the lone ranger." + +Congressional amnesty -- suggested by a caller -- would be nice, says +Lazar, but merely offers freedom from prosecution. By coming forward, +he concedes, the other S-4 workers have everything to lose and nothing +to gain. + +But Huff says there has to be a moral guideline where national security +has to hang in the balance and that the reporting of the existence of +alien spaceships is where you draw the line. + +Caller Bill Cooper says there is "a higher value" that those at S-4 +should consider as a reason for coming forward to join Lazar. + +But Lazar makes a point of distinguishing his whole view of the UFO +situation from that of John Lear or Bill Cooper. + +2. Verification of Lazar's Background: +Lazar says he worked at S-4 -- a "restrained military environment" +in Nevada -- from 12/88 to 4/89. + +In response to callers who want independently to check up on Lazar, +he says his "colorful" background has already been checked by George +Knapp of KLAS-TV, who had traveled to Los Alamos Laboratories and +had spoken to former Lazar colleagues, who confirmed he really had +worked there -- in spite of Los Alamos itself denying the fact of +Lazar's employment with them. (Knapp's UFO broadcast displayed a +page from a 1982 Los Alamos Labs internal phone book, listing Robert +Lazar.) + +Caller Bill Cooper, who says he has talked to Lazar for over a year, +says that by talking to persons at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory and at +another facility, he and associates have confirmed Lazar's previous +work in physics at the places Lazar specified. Lazar replied he was not +aware of this checking done by Cooper. + +Responding to an "investigator" caller wanting Lazar to give him private +info in order to check him out, Lazar says Lazar himself once took a +correspondence course to be a private "investigator." + +Lazar says he has 25 people each wanting independently to check him out, +but he will not allow that. + +Although Lazar admits he was paid by check, he refuses to discuss anything +about the check stubs. + + + +--- FD 2.00 + * Origin: ParaNet Administration =->Voice 303-232-8303<-= (1:104/428) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 +SEEN-BY: 382/33 1063/304 3607/20 30163/22 150 401 + + +169/417 22 Nov 89 20:55:00 +From: Michael Corbin +To: Michael Corbin +Subj: Update: Area 51 +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +<...Continued from previous message> + +3. Lazar's Clearance Level: +He says neither REECO (Reynolds Electrical and Engineering Co., Inc.) nor +EG&G -- each a well-known U.S. Department of Energy Test Site +contractor -- has people at S-4, that those persons' clearances are at +most Q-Clearances, while his own clearance is "38 levels above Q-Clearance." +The closest to S-4 that REECO or EG&G people physically get, he says, +is Area 51. + +4. Threats Made to Lazar/Lazar Shot At? +When Goodman refers to Lazar's telling him before the broadcast that +Lazar had been shot at, Lazar says he doesn't want to talk about it. + +Lazar says he was called to go back to work but officially refused +because he didn't like the idea of returning to that isolated place +in the desert where they could do what they wanted to him. +However, he says his clearance has not been revoked. + +Lazar says the executive powers at S-4 have run amok and there are no +checks and balances. Congress, he says, has no knowledge of all this. +Lazar says there are no lengths to which the military will not go to +conceal this information. + +5. Mind Control Suspicions: +He contacted hypnotherapist Layne Keck of Serenus Clinical Hypnosis in +Las Vegas because there were a couple of days where Lazar remembered +only going out in a plane and coming back, but nothing in between. +He suspected mind control had been performed on him. + +Lazar purposely selected Serenus because it had nothing to do with UFOs. +[A Las Vegas Yellow Pages ad says: +Serenus Clinical Hypnosis +Helen Baucum +30 years Experience +"Pin-Point" Method +Children Our Specialty +Weight Control, Stuttering, Bed Wetting, Nervous Tensions, Smoking, +Drinking, Memory Retention +384-4420 +1833 W. Charleston (across from S. Nevada Memorial Hosp.)] + +Under hypnosis, Lazar recalled intense drilling, threatening actions +taken against him, and his drinking of "pine," which his hypnotherapist +said was similar to the "Orion [sp?] Method" of regimented hypnosis used +by the military. + +Per Huff, Lazar was given drugs and hypnosis by his employers -- not so +he would forget what he was working on, but so -- by their imprinting +his subconscious -- he would be afraid to talk. + +Per Huff, after first telling Lazar his phone was tapped, the military +later threatened him because, having monitored his phone, they knew he +was planning to release information about the alien craft. Huff says +the military were amazed that the drugs and hypnosis had not worked. + +Although he is afraid, Lazar hopes they won't come after him now since he +has already talked. + +6. Location of the Saucers: +Lazar says the nine saucers are not at the supersecret Area 51 +(Groom Lake) of the U.S. government's Nevada Test Site, but at S-4 -- +10 miles south of Area 51. The disks are only at this one place. +However, to go to work, Lazar flew (by plane) to Groom Lake, waited a +short time at a cafe, then got on a bus [with blacked-out windows, +per Lazar's Knapp-series statements]. + +Lazar says he knows someone who drills tunnels at the Test Site, but +no mention is made that this individual also works at S-4. + +7. Bad Aliens Killed S-4 Workers: +Lazar says the aliens are not benevolent. + +Some humans were killed in a conflict after a U.S. military +intelligence power play, after which point a previously ongoing +information exchange ended. + +Huff says Lazar earlier told him -- and Lazar agrees he had said this -- +that this exchange of information occurred between the aliens and +human scientists/human security personnel [at S-4?]. + +But although the aliens had allowed themselves to be under constant +human guard, the aliens had insisted there be no bullets in the guns +worn by the security people. [Bullets may have been a symbol covering +all loaded weapons.] + +The security people ignored that demand, and they all died from head +wounds -- which left no evidence of how they had died. + +The aliens even killed the scientists they were teaching. + +[On Knapp's broadcast last week, Lazar said he was told he was one of +the replacements: +George Knapp: +The dangers associated with 115 [the alien element] and anti-matter may +be the reason Lazar was hired to work at S-4. There was an accident, +he says, back in April 1987, an accident that was passed off as an +unannounced nuclear test. + +Robert Lazar: +Some people got killed. I was told flat out I was one of the people +that were to replace these guys.] + +Responding to a caller, Lazar says talking about aliens is NOT a touchy +subject for him. Aliens exist, he says. +[Lear, in an earlier On the Record KLAS-TV broadcast, says Lazar saw +aliens.] + + + + +--- FD 2.00 + * Origin: ParaNet Administration =->Voice 303-232-8303<-= (1:104/428) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 +SEEN-BY: 382/33 1063/304 3607/20 30163/22 150 401 + + +170/417 22 Nov 89 20:56:00 +From: Michael Corbin +To: Michael Corbin +Subj: Update: Area 51 +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +<...Continued from previous message> + +8. Time of Saucer Test Flights: +The tests of the saucers at S-4 are Wednesday nights. +Lazar says he was fired because he showed people where and when these +tests were performed. + +9. Who Pilots the Test Flights? +Lazar says the experimental UFO flights at S-4 are flown either by +remote control or by human pilots -- not by the aliens. + +10. Origin of the Saucers at S-4: +The alien vehicles Lazar saw up close in hangars come from +"another world: "the fourth planet out from Zeta Reticulum II [sp?], +a binary system." [Same as on Betty Hill's map?] + +11. Description of the Saucers: +He says he touched one of the nine UFOs and even stood in its doorway. + +He says the saucers mostly appeared "like new" -- one of them looking +like the Billy Meier saucer. +[On George Knapp's recent series "UFOs: The Best Evidence" (KLAS-TV, +Las Vegas), Lazar says one of the saucers "looked like it was hit +with some sort of a projectile. It had a large hole in the bottom and +a large hole in the top with the metal bent out like some sort of, +you know, large caliber 4- or 5-inch had gone through it."] + +The inside of one craft appears made of wax and then cooled off, +all like a cast or mold of one thing with no rough edges. + +Inside were small chairs, one or one and one-half feet, as though +made for little kids. +(Compare with George Knapp's new Roswell witness who said on Knapp's +nine-segment broadcast that a Roswell funeral home worker had told him +the military had purchased all of the "baby or youth caskets" in stock +for the purpose of holding the Roswell aliens.) + +12. Nine S-4 Saucers Extraterrestrial -- Not Earthly: +The nine disks he saw up close -- including the one he worked on -- +were not earthly and were definitely extraterrestrial. + +Lazar can't say whether or not the other disks he saw at a distance +during testing [seen on video presented in George Knapp's broadcasts] +are man-made or extraterrestrial. + +13. Physics of the Saucers at S-4: +Lazar says the vehicle attaches itself to a distorted portion of +space-time and returns with the distortion. It's a new physics. +The vehicles brought a space-time warp with them. + +Lazar says the propulsion technology should properly remain +classified, since everything there is looked at from a weapons +point of view. A lot is directly applicable to weapons systems, and he +has no intention of releasing it, he says. + +But he says the craft uses gravity as a lens and the power source is +an anti-matter reactor. + +Two Modes of Travel for Saucers at S-4: +1) When traveling around the surface of the planet, the vehicles balance +on a gravity wave or ride a wave like a cork on the ocean. In this +mode they are unstable and are affected by the weather. + +2) For space travel, they use gravity generators. But if they fly +around the surface of Earth using this mode, they may flip over, a +phenomenon Lazar says has frequently been observed in past sightings +in the published UFO literature. + +Two gravities: A & B. +Gravity A works on an atomic scale whose interaction is small and has +to do with fuel -- the alien Element 115 used for the disks. + +Gravity B works on a macro scale. + +The gravitational field is OUT OF PHASE with [unknown ?] and is like +a wave generator. It is LONGITUDINAL generation -- not spherical, as +a caller suggested. + +14. Project Aurora: +"Aurora," says Lazar, distinguishing it from any UFOs, is the +replacement for the SR-71 plane. It uses a three-mile runway and +makes a sound like continuous explosions. It has speeds up to Mach 10. + +15. No Alien Cattle Mutilations? +As far as HE knows, Lazar says, there is no alien UFO tie-in with +cattle mutilations. + +16. Few Abductees? +More persons claim to be abductees than have actually been abducted, +suggests Lazar. + +17. No Blue Diamond Entry Way for Saucers: +Notwithstanding UFO watchers congregating at Blue Diamond, Lazar says +there is only a gravity anomaly around Blue Diamond, not an entry way +for saucers into our universe. + +18. Other Physics Comments By Lazar: +Time travel: +GRAVITY affects time. Moving FORWARD in time is "a breeze": All you +need do is get close to a gravitational field. +Moving back in time MIGHT also be possible. + +Some physicists today, says Lazar, invoke superstring theories to simply +add another dimension to the universe whenever they can't explain something. + +Referring to laser fusion experiments as "stupid," Lazar refers to a +location where they have been conducted. + +Lazar also speaks of a process of squeezing plutonium. + +In response to a caller's question, Lazar says M-42 is a galaxy. + +19. Lazar says George Knapp's two-hour program on KLAS-TV, +Channel 8 in Las Vegas, this Saturday, 11/25/89, 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., +will contain "much more information" than Knapp's recent nine-part, +two-hour UFO broadcasts last week. + +================================================================= + +This is contained in a file called 1122LACO.UFO in the Library. + +--- FD 2.00 + * Origin: ParaNet Administration =->Voice 303-232-8303<-= (1:104/428) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 +SEEN-BY: 382/33 1063/304 3607/20 30163/22 150 401 + + +181/417 24 Nov 89 21:29:41 +From: Cyro Lord +To: All +Subj: Antimatter Drives and Area 51 +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +From: cyrill@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Cyro Lord) +Date: 24 Nov 89 20:44:28 GMT +Organization: ALPHA Comm. Dev. Corp., Aurora, Co. +Message-ID: <2261@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> +Newsgroups: info.paranet + + +>From: macleod@drivax.UUCP (MacLeod) +In article <265@oasis.mrcu> paj@mrcu (Paul Johnson) writes: + +:A couple of months ago I read Robert Forward's book "Mirror Matter" in +:which he suggests that the practical use of antimatter is now +:possible. Are his ideas impractical? If not, what is being done +:about them? + +Glad you asked about antimatter. + +According to a series of reports on two Las Vegas television stations +(there is a two-hour special coming on 11-25 for those in the LV area) +one Robert Lazar, formerly employed by the government at the mysterious +Area 51, says that the US government has 500 pounds of element 115, +which somehow produces antimatter when irradiated. + +This fuel is used to drive waveguide-type gravity amplifiers which +are the FTL drive components of nine alien spacecraft stored in hangars +out at Area 51 (the supersecret testing grounds also known as "Dreamland" +in the middle of the Nellis AFB bombing range about 65 miles northeast of +Las Vegas). From his brief description of how the drives operate, they +seem to create local black-hole strength gravity gradients which slow down +time and cause a space-fold quickly traversible by the spacecraft. + +Lazar says he was hired to continue covert research into these spacecraft +and their engineering infrastructure after a former team of scientists +had screwed the pooch with a batch of element 115, forcing the AEC to +hurridly announce an "unscheduled" atomic test at Dreamland. + +Don't flame me, call KLAS-TV in Vegas if you're curious. They will be +selling copies of the 2-hour special, due to the outpouring of interest +in it - stimulated by word of mouth and news propagated by ParaNet. +For some odd reason the national media have not paid any attention... + +You can also get on the ParaNet mailing list by sending a note to: + scicom!infopara +Michael Sloan MacLeod (amdahl!drivax!macleod) +(This article is from the 'misc.headlines' newsgroup of USENET. If this +is a repost, please excuse the repost. -Cyro) + +-- +<---------------------------++++++++++++++++++-----------------------------> +Cyro Lord Alpha Comm. Dev. Corp. - DOMAIN cyrill@scicom.alphacdc.com +UUCP {ncar,nbires,boulder,isis}!scicom!cyrill +Corn can't expect Justice from a court of chickens. (African Proverb) + +--- ConfMail V4.00 + * Origin: Paranet - The world's most important computer network (1:30163/150) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 108/110 114/37 115/876 120/80 +SEEN-BY: 132/113 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 +SEEN-BY: 252/18 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 +SEEN-BY: 382/33 1063/304 3607/20 30163/22 100 150 401 + + +191/417 25 Nov 89 22:25:00 +From: Don Allen +To: Jim Speiser +Subj: Re: Newest Release.. +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +Jim- ....Great approach, Don! I wish more people would do that. But when you +hand it out.. @ YES I DID! I did mention that it was unconfirmed. I may have +an open mind,but it ain't so open that my brains fall out! Fact is,one of +the people that I handed the releases to is a Naval Commander (reservist). He +was real interested,but didn't say much. I was particularly amused when he +asked that if anything else came out that he would like to see it.. Jim- +WHERE'S DA BEEF???? ....... VERY good question Jim....The LEFT side of my +brain is asking the same thing,however the RIGHT side is leaning heavily +towards considering it as more than true. Lazar's claims sure *seem* more than +credible... Sounds confusing,I know..but I keep the balance by continuing to +look for the "outpoints" of Lazar's story..things I'm mulling over: + +Release- +"In response to callers who want independently to check up on Lazar, +he says his "colorful" background has already been checked by George +Knapp of KLAS-TV, who had traveled to Los Alamos Laboratories and +had spoken to former Lazar colleagues, who confirmed he really had +worked there -- in spite of Los Alamos itself denying the fact of +Lazar's employment with them. (Knapp's UFO broadcast displayed a +page from a 1982 Los Alamos Labs internal phone book, listing Robert +Lazar.) + +@ Thats SOUNDS plausible..but how do we actually *know* that Knapp +checked up on him? Is there any documentation that Knapp can actually +SHOW (read-> Hard copy) that Lazar has worked the places he's claimed +to? + +Release- +Caller Bill Cooper, who says he has talked to Lazar for over a year, +says that by talking to persons at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory and at another +facility, he and associates have confirmed Lazar's previous +work in physics at the places Lazar specified. Lazar replied he was not +aware of this checking done by Cooper. + +@ Which Bill Cooper is this? Is this THE Bill Cooper who was (to put it +politely) kicked off Paranet for leaving inflammatory statements to +others? And if so,what credibility do we (users,Paranet) assign to +him? Are HIS "facts" checkable? Have they been in the past? + +Release- + Lazar says he has 25 people each wanting independently to check him out, but +he will not allow that. + +@ I can understand that. But how about a panel of 5 reputable people? +Certainly Dr Stanton Friedman should be one of the panel.. + +Release- + He says neither REECO (Reynolds Electrical and Engineering Co., Inc.) nor EG&G + -- each a well-known U.S. Department of Energy Test Site +contractor -- has people at S-4, that those persons' clearances are at +most Q-Clearances, while his own clearance is "38 levels above Q-Clearance." +The closest to S-4 that REECO or EG&G people physically... + +@ Whew..How is anyone supposed to verify that? Maybe,just maybe the others that +worked with Lazar will come forth and support his story. +--- QuickBBS v2.04 + * Origin: Gallifrey - ParaNet Nu(sm) - Orlando, Florida (407)273-9104 +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 150 401 + + +194/417 26 Nov 89 15:07:00 +From: Michael Corbin +To: John H. Chalmers Jr. +Subj: 115,Etc. +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ + > (2) Element 115: I don't know any reason why 115 + > would be useful in creating + > an antigravity field or creating antimattter, except + > possibly as an energy + > source in some sort of fission reactor. There is a + > predicted quantum mechanical + > "Island of Stability" around atomic numbers 112-116, but + > more recent + > calculations suggest that none of these elements would be + > stable enough to be + > isolated in macroscopic amounts. In contrast, only a few + > years ago some + > physicists thought that these elements might have half- + > lives in the millions or + > billions of years. +Thank you for bringing this up. I was hoping that some of our physics readers +would jump on this. Could you go further into the explanation about the +instability of the elements between 112 and 116? Furthermore, Lazar claims +that the vessel uses that in combination with a wave guide which, in his +diagram, is shown protruding from the top part of the reactor and protracting +to the top of the vessel with an antenna of a sort where it terminates. At the +bottom of the vessel is where the gravity amplifier is located. + +Also, what are tachyons and how could they figure into this scenario. Is it +true that gravity could travel twice the speed of light? + + > Antimatter is made today in small amounts; beams of + > positrons and antiprotons + > are used in particle accelerators. Neutral anti-hydrogen + > (positrons orbiting + > antiprotons) would be hard to store, but certainly + > synthesizable. It would be a + > great power source when it mutually annihilated with normal + > matter. +How could this work in propulsion? + +Based upon what has been said thus far by Lazar, could you comment on your +feelings about his credibility as a physicist and his theories regarding the +overall implication of this. + +Thanks for your time and contribution to this discussion. + +Michael Corbin + +--- FD 2.00 + * Origin: ParaNet Administration =->Voice 303-232-8303<-= (1:104/428) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 150 401 + + +198/417 27 Nov 89 04:28:00 +From: Robert Klinn +To: All +Subj: S-4 Worker Backs Up Lazar's Claims +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +Six "Scared-To-Death" S-4 Workers Reportedly Meet Outside the Nevada Test Site +at Lathrop Wells to Unite and Join Lazar's Expose of Alien Saucers +On KVEG-AM Radio in Las Vegas, on The Billy Goodman Happening, 11/24/89, 10:00 +p.m. to 1:00 a.m., with Robert Lazar on the line, another caller introduces +himself as "a colleague in Lazar's department." +Calling himself "MW" for Mercury Worker [Mercury is the military town inside +the Test Site], he distinguishes his work -- "hands-on" -- from Lazar's. MW +says he is a construction worker, installing and constructing. +He says he and others like him work in S-4 -- especially underground -- in deep +sections. +"We all know a lot." +"Someone had to install the hangars." +"There is more than tunnels -- everything you can imagine -- cause we did +everything." +He says people are now meeting in small groups to talk about backing up Lazar. +There was a meeting of six workers the night of 11/24/89, he says, to discuss +whether or not they should publicly say what they saw. +The five others are scared to death, he says. He himself sounds scared on the +telephone. +They are trying to get it where it will be safe for them to join Lazar, he +says. +The MW's are "putting something together to join you." +There are two more MW workers supporting you, he says. +"We got together at Lathrop Wells [a small town close to the southwest end of +the Nevada Test Site] and said we got to do something." +"Only two out of the six are willing to do something." +"The guys are for you." +Although encouraged, Lazar points out there's a ten-year jail term for them if +they talk. +--- QuickBBS v2.04 + * Origin: -==- Denver, CO (303)232-6115 (1:104/422) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 150 401 + + +228/417 28 Nov 89 19:19:44 +From: John H. Chalmers Jr. +To: All +Subj: Reply to Mike Corbin +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +From: chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu (John H. Chalmers Jr.) +Date: 28 Nov 89 02:47:24 GMT +Message-ID: <1510@taos.AlphaCDC.COM> +Newsgroups: info.paranet + +Mike: Based on what I have read on ParaNet, I can't take Lazar's physics very +seriously. I suspect that a professional physicist would feel that I am +understating the situation. I'm a biologist, not a quantum mechanic so most of +what I know is from secondary sources like textbooks, Scientific American, New +Scientist, The Sciences, or Stephen Hawking's recent best seller. Physics +isn't +my specialty, but I'll try to answer your questions. + Now if somebody were to offer me a piece of purported alien tissue or a +culture +of an ET microbe, I think I'd know how to authenticate it or how to find people +who could. + Elements decay by three principal routes, alpha emission, spontaneous +fission +and beta decay. The three controlling forces, the Electromagnetic,the Strong +Nuclear and the Weak Nuclear, are well understood with theory agreeing with +experiment to nine or ten decimal places in many cases. The computational +magnitude of systems as complex as heavy elements precludes exact calculations +even on supercomputers, but the best approximations suggest that elements of +atomic number around 114 are more stable than any nearby because the nucleons +(protons and neutrons) form closed or nearly closed shells. This phenomenon is +analogous to the chemical inertness of helium, neon and argon because their +electrons form closed shells (outside the nucleus) and there is little tendency +to arrange them in other configurations so that they could form bonds to other +atoms and make compounds. + However, this stability is not absolute and atoms decay spontaneously +with +half-lives (the time for 50% to change) ranging from more than 10 to the 33 +years for Hydrogen to about 10-23 seconds for some extremely short lived +isotopes decaying by the Strong Force. Elements with half lives of weeks or +months can be isolated in weighable amounts though doing so is difficult and +dangerous, but isotopes with shorter half-lives can only be identified by +their +radioactive decay products. Only a few atoms of Element 109 have been made so +far, but the energies of the alpha particles emitted along its decay chain made +identification unambiguous. It's half-life is somewhere between a millisecond +and a microsecond. +Elements 110 and 111 are expected to be even less stable, so experimenters hope +to jump into the Stability region where half-lives are calculated to be longer. + +Longer might mean 10-6 seconds or it might mean minutes or seconds. I don't +know what the latest predictions are. + The only way we have to make such heavy nuclei is accelerate atoms of +medium +weight elements such as calcium, carbon, etc. and smash them into heavy atoms +such as uranium. It takes a lot of energy to overcome the electromagnetic +repulsion to get the nuclei close enough so that the very short range (10-13 +cm) +Strong Force can bind the compound nucleus together. If the atoms have too +little energy, they won't fuse, but if they have too much, they won't stay +together. The new nucleus is only marginally stable at best and will fission +if it has too much energy. Another problem is that the new nucleus may not +have +enough neutrons to be stable. If so, it will undergo beta decay as well. + If any elements around 114 or higher can be made they will be +important +confirmation of the standard model. They will also have interesting chemistry +since they will have more electrons than any know elements and some of these +electrons will be in g orbitals with somewhat different properties from those +in +d and f orbitals. + Tachyons are hypothetical particles with negative or imaginary rest +mass and +always travel faster than light. They have never been observed and no one knows +how to search for them. Since they travel faster than light, their +interactions +with normal matter would conflict with relativity. Gregory Benford, a +physicist +and award winning SF author, has written a serious paper about a "Tachyonic +Anti-Telephone" which would allow one to place a call to the past. Needless +to +say, this would violate causality as we understand it. + Invoking tachyons to explain some unknown effect is committing the +fallacy +known as "Ignotus per ignotum," using one unknown to explain another. If and +when tachyons are discovered, and assuming they have the requisite properties, +then they may be used to explain unusual events. + Now to antimatter: I didn't mean to imply that particle accelerators +bombard +anti-protons with positrons. High energy electrons collide with positrons and +protons with antiprotons to produce exotic particles such as the W and Z mesons +(the field quanta of the weak force). + if anti-Hydrogen and normal Hydrogen come into contact, the positrons +and the +electrons will mutually annihilate to generate two gamma rays of .51 Mev. The +antiprotons and protons of the nuclei will also annihilate, but they do so in a +more complex fashion which produces a lot of intermediate particles. The end +result is the conversion of the mass of both the normal and the anti-matter to +energy according to Einstein's equation, E= mc2 (E=energy, m=totalmass, c=speed +of light). + The resulting gamma rays could be reflected off a heavy shield and used +for +propulsion as a high energy photonic drive. Such as system seems to be the +only +feasible energy source for interstellar flight according to the articles I've +seen. + Small amounts of antimatter could be made if anybody wanted to. For +powering +interstellar spacecraft travelling at relativistic velocities, thousands or +millions of tons will be required, alas. + The energy released in ordinary fusion or fission reactions is only a +small +fraction of this energy and comes from the binding energies of the nuclei: +fission and fusion are the nuclear analogs of fermentation, while +matter-antimatter annihilation is analogous to terminal oxidation. The nuclear +energies are about a million times larger than the chemical energies, however, +and this is why terrestrial organisms don't/can't use nuclear power in their +metabolism. + The yet undiscovered field particle of the gravitational force, the +fourth of +the known forces, is the graviton. It would travel at the speed of light. I +don't know of any justification for the notion that gravitational effects +propagate at 2*c. + Although gravitational radiation has not been observed directly, +certain binary +star systems are losing energy at the rate calculated for gravitational +radiation, so physicists are reasonable confident about the standard model. +Gravitational radiation antennas with sufficient sensitivity are being +constructed, so direct observation could occur soon. + Wave guides are conductive tubes which direct electromagnetic waves +(radio +waves, light, etc). I have no idea if a gravitational wave guide or amplifier +is +even theoretically possible. The people to ask are gravitational theorists +such +as Kip Thorne, John Archibald Wheeler or Robert Forward (who also writes SF). + Forward has designed some hypothetical anti-gravity devices based on +standard +physics. One involves passing the mass of a neutron star though a toroidal +coil +the size of a football field in a millisecond to neutralize the earth's gravity +field in the center by generating the gravitational analog of the magnetic +field. The other methods are even less practical. + The problem is that gravity is 10 +43 times weaker than the Strong +Force and +thus hard to study in the laboratory. One wishes to manipulate masses of at +least planetary size. Also, the gravitational field is always attractive and a +function of the geometry of space-time + i hope all of this wordage answers your questions. These are +fascinating areas +and one can go on and on. +--John + +--- ConfMail V4.00 + * Origin: Paranet - The world's most important computer network (1:30163/150) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 100 150 401 + + +251/417 29 Nov 89 18:45:28 +From: Usenet News +To: All +Subj: Lazar and his Amazing Saucers +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +Date: 29 Nov 89 20:47:15 GMT +Message-ID: <1519@taos.AlphaCDC.COM> +Newsgroups: info.paranet + +Hello, paranet friends, + +I have been reading the newsletter from paranet for some time now. +This is my first posting. + ++I just had an interesting thought...if you had been sitting on the secret ++of S-4 and dreamland for a long while, and had instructions to release the ++information to the public only if it would not cause a crisis, what better ++time to stage-leak the real story, as most of Eastern Europe and the Soviet ++Union call off the cold war? Perhaps what Reagan was telling Gorbachev ++in their summit conferences is that we'll all hang separately if we don't ++hang together. ++ ++More paranoia from, ++ ++Michael Sloan MacLeod (amdahl!drivax!macleod) + +Regarding Lazar, I just wonder about the fact that we are on the eve +of a summit of great significance to the entire world. As much as +we would all like to believe this intriguing tale (since so many +questions would be answered), I have to think that our government +has a powerful motivation at the moment for promoting this kind of +idea. + +Given the credulity of Soviets on this subject, how likely is it +that the Soviet intelligence community is going crazy right now +trying to verify this story before the summit? Is this all +designed to throw Gorbachev off balance? + +If our government tried to announce such a thing (supposing it is +false) they would be innundated with requests for demonstrations +and explanations, which would ruin the ruse. But the region where +these events are alleged to have occurred would be under constant +scrutiny by Soviet agents, given the history of the area. The +agents assigned to the area probably observed the news programs +with great interest. + +Then there is the involvement of Cooper. Readers will have to judge +for themselves the significance of this. + + Here is my scenario: +Lazar works for some intelligence outfit. His background was wiped +out (ineffectively) in the hopes that the attempt to erase his +history would give credibility to his story. Others that come +forward are part of the same effort. Some are actual believers +who have been convinced by the thoroughness of the deception. + +The information is released in controlled packets, perhaps some +intelligence leaks were provided directly to Soviet agents to +prepare them to be receptive when the television program came on. +It all is building up so that the climax of the scam occurs just +before the summit. The result is that Gorbachev is off balance +and Bush has the advantage. + + +I think this is much more likely than the possibility that what +Lazar says is true, for these reasons: + +1) If this project were so top secret as Lazar says, he would + never have appeared on that program. Lazar said they knew + he was going to leak in advance. If that were true he + would have been dead. They would not wait until now to + take sniper shots at him, and if they did, they wouldn't + miss. + +2) Bill Cooper has discredited himself, and he appears to be + involved. + +3) After reading on the subject, I am inclined to believe that + the spiritual/supernatural/extradimensional aspect is the + most significant. I could go into this, but let me just + say that I too have been reading Dimensions, and the ideas + presented there make more sense than anything else I have seen + on the subject. This story does not fit the scenario. + Instead it fits into a neat materialistic mold which would + allow the military to control the phenomena by purely + physical means. This does not mean it is necessarily bogus, + it just makes me suspicious. It is too neat; too easy and pat. + +4) The gov't has a history of "leaking" bogus UFO stories. + +5) They are motivated to try to maintain the upper hand by the + significance of this summit, in light of political developments. + This whole thing may have been generated directly in response + to developments in Eastern Europe. + +6) The whole thing may be relatively unimportant to our intelligence + community - just another little game to try to keep the other + guys confused, and good practice at generating disinformation. + + +Sorry, it's just too bizarre to believe without tons of corroboration +from many independent sources. + +Cheers, +--Steve +------------------------------------------------------------------------- + {uunet,sun}!convex!swarren; swarren@convex.COM + +--- ConfMail V4.00 + * Origin: Paranet - The world's most important computer network (1:30163/150) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 100 150 401 + + +257/417 01 Dec 89 02:31:53 +From: Usenet News +To: All +Subj: Lazar and his Amazing Saucers +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +Date: 29 Nov 89 20:47:15 GMT +Message-ID: <1519@taos.AlphaCDC.COM> +Newsgroups: info.paranet + +Hello, paranet friends, + +I have been reading the newsletter from paranet for some time now. +This is my first posting. + ++I just had an interesting thought...if you had been sitting on the secret ++of S-4 and dreamland for a long while, and had instructions to release the ++information to the public only if it would not cause a crisis, what better ++time to stage-leak the real story, as most of Eastern Europe and the Soviet ++Union call off the cold war? Perhaps what Reagan was telling Gorbachev ++in their summit conferences is that we'll all hang separately if we don't ++hang together. ++ ++More paranoia from, ++ ++Michael Sloan MacLeod (amdahl!drivax!macleod) + +Regarding Lazar, I just wonder about the fact that we are on the eve +of a summit of great significance to the entire world. As much as +we would all like to believe this intriguing tale (since so many +questions would be answered), I have to think that our government +has a powerful motivation at the moment for promoting this kind of +idea. + +Given the credulity of Soviets on this subject, how likely is it +that the Soviet intelligence community is going crazy right now +trying to verify this story before the summit? Is this all +designed to throw Gorbachev off balance? + +If our government tried to announce such a thing (supposing it is +false) they would be innundated with requests for demonstrations +and explanations, which would ruin the ruse. But the region where +these events are alleged to have occurred would be under constant +scrutiny by Soviet agents, given the history of the area. The +agents assigned to the area probably observed the news programs +with great interest. + +Then there is the involvement of Cooper. Readers will have to judge +for themselves the significance of this. + + Here is my scenario: +Lazar works for some intelligence outfit. His background was wiped +out (ineffectively) in the hopes that the attempt to erase his +history would give credibility to his story. Others that come +forward are part of the same effort. Some are actual believers +who have been convinced by the thoroughness of the deception. + +The information is released in controlled packets, perhaps some +intelligence leaks were provided directly to Soviet agents to +prepare them to be receptive when the television program came on. +It all is building up so that the climax of the scam occurs just +before the summit. The result is that Gorbachev is off balance +and Bush has the advantage. + + +I think this is much more likely than the possibility that what +Lazar says is true, for these reasons: + +1) If this project were so top secret as Lazar says, he would + never have appeared on that program. Lazar said they knew + he was going to leak in advance. If that were true he + would have been dead. They would not wait until now to + take sniper shots at him, and if they did, they wouldn't + miss. + +2) Bill Cooper has discredited himself, and he appears to be + involved. + +3) After reading on the subject, I am inclined to believe that + the spiritual/supernatural/extradimensional aspect is the + most significant. I could go into this, but let me just + say that I too have been reading Dimensions, and the ideas + presented there make more sense than anything else I have seen + on the subject. This story does not fit the scenario. + Instead it fits into a neat materialistic mold which would + allow the military to control the phenomena by purely + physical means. This does not mean it is necessarily bogus, + it just makes me suspicious. It is too neat; too easy and pat. + +4) The gov't has a history of "leaking" bogus UFO stories. + +5) They are motivated to try to maintain the upper hand by the + significance of this summit, in light of political developments. + This whole thing may have been generated directly in response + to developments in Eastern Europe. + +6) The whole thing may be relatively unimportant to our intelligence + community - just another little game to try to keep the other + guys confused, and good practice at generating disinformation. + + +Sorry, it's just too bizarre to believe without tons of corroboration +from many independent sources. + +Cheers, +--Steve +------------------------------------------------------------------------- + {uunet,sun}!convex!swarren; swarren@convex.COM + +--- ConfMail V4.00 + * Origin: Paranet - The world's most important computer network (1:30163/150) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 100 150 401 + + +259/417 01 Dec 89 02:33:02 +From: MacLeod +To: All +Subj: (none) +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +From: drivax!macleod@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (MacLeod) +Date: 30 Nov 89 07:47:08 GMT +Message-ID: <1521@taos.AlphaCDC.COM> +Newsgroups: info.paranet + + +Dear Friends, + +I saw this article in the sci.space USENET newsgroup. + +I think it's some straightfaced bs put up to parody the Area 51 article, +but I could be wrong. The article had a strange-looking path line, and it +seemed to have been gateed from the Internet. + +Article 15143 of sci.space: +Path: +drivax!amdahl!apple!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd +!ucbvax!FNAL.BITNET!HIGGINS +From: HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET (W.T. Higgins) +Newsgroups: sci.space +Subject: Re: Antimatter Drives and Area 51 +Message-ID: +Date: 28 Nov 89 15:47:00 GMT +Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU +Organization: The Internet +Lines: 61 + +Michael Sloan MacLeod posted a discussion about: + ++Robert Lazar, formerly employed by the government at the mysterious ++Area 51, says that the US government has 500 pounds of element 115, ++which somehow produces antimatter when irradiated. + +Lazar is pulling the wool over somebody's eyes. There were less than 300 pounds +of element 115, and probably less now. Samples were tested in various +university and government labs, including mine. Yes, it does give off +antimatter when bombarded with the proper radiation. If you hit it with +negative muons, 115 (I'm talking about 287, the most abundant isotope, here. +Inconvenient not having a name for the element, but there never was general +agreement on it.) transitions to an excited state that decays into a positron, +a nucleus of 114, and an antideuteron (bound state of an antiproton and an +antineutron). The 114 is unstable, and in a few milliseconds it gives off +another antideuteron and a pair of positrons. And so forth, down the chart of +the nuclides. Every once in a while a decay in this chain will throw off a +neutron, just to keep things balanced. This had everybody excited for a while. +You might remember the big *Popular Mechanics* article about it. + +Unfortunately, it turned out to be a bust. We showered muons on our 115 sample +rods for weeks on end. The decay chain ends, after a rather short time, at +106Pd. And Pd has a tremendous affinity for hydrogen, and anti-hydrogen. We +had +made a bunch of antimatter, but we couldn't get it out. The deuterons were +stuck +within the Pd lattice. All we could collect were a few deuterons coming off +atoms on the surface, and positrons, which we can get anywhere. And instead of +an exotic heavy element, we were left with an inert lump of a metal anybody can +buy on the commodities market. Remember the joke about the alchemist who could +turn gold into lead? + +Having established that it wasn't a miracle energy source, most labs pretty +much +lost interest. At mine, we took the experiment apart and went on to more +interesting work. The sample rods were lying around the lab for a while, +though, come to think of it, I haven't seen them in a couple of years. I +suppose somebody scrounged them for another experiment. + ++This fuel is used to drive waveguide-type gravity amplifiers which ++are the FTL drive components of nine alien spacecraft + +Eight. One crashed during tests in August 1981. Three of the remaining +eight have now been dismantled. + ++stored in hangars ++out at Area 51 (the supersecret testing grounds also known as "Dreamland" ++in the middle of the Nellis AFB bombing range about 65 miles northeast of ++Las Vegas). + +Not *too* supersecret. See the book *Dreamland: A New Age of Flight Testing*, +by Richard Adams Locke, Aero Books, 1985. A lot of nice photos of the place. + ++From his brief description of how the drives operate, they ++seem to create local black-hole strength gravity gradients which slow down ++time and cause a space-fold quickly traversible by the spacecraft. + +Get real. The correct spelling is "traversable." + + Bill Higgins ++------------------------------------------------+ +| These opinions are not shared by my employer, | +| or perhaps by anybody else. | ++------------------------------------------------+ + +Michael Sloan MacLeod + +--- ConfMail V4.00 + * Origin: Paranet - The world's most important computer network (1:30163/150) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 100 150 401 + + +272/417 02 Dec 89 22:22:00 +From: Clark Matthews +To: Usenet News +Subj: Re: Lazar And His Amazing Saucers +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ + > 3) After reading on the subject, I am inclined to believe + > that the spiritual/supernatural/extradimensional aspect is + > the most significant. I could go into this, but let me + > just say that I too have been reading Dimensions, and the + > ideas presented there make more sense than anything else I + > have seen on the subject. This story does not fit the scenario. + > Instead it fits into a neat materialistic mold which would + > allow the military to control the phenomena by purely + > physical means. This does not mean it is necessarily + > bogus, it just makes me suspicious. It is too neat; too easy + > and pat. + + +Hi Steve. Well, like you I have been quite taken with Dr. Vallee's hypothesis +in _Dimensions_. But let's not get carried away here... + +A few days back, pre-Crash (Alpha's hard disk, not the markets) I wrote a +semi-tongue-in-cheek riposte to someone about how unimportant it is who or what +builds and operates the UFOs we see, hear of, and investigate. Whether they are +built & operated by elves, pixies, leprechauns, Titans, Nordics or whatever is +not the point. + +The point (to my mind, anyway) is that they print on radar, leave leave dents +in the ground when they land, occasionally scorch things and let people get +close enough to touch them -- even get inside. They are material things. +Whether they come from Zeta II, a parallel universe or Middle Earth, they are +physical objects. + +Even though these devices and their makers/masters may seem to us as +present-day astronauts must appear to the most primitive Bushmen, I really +don't allow myself to doubt their physical existence or impute anything +supernatural or religious to them. I do not think Dr. Vallee does either -- as +least as far as I read his book. + +It may be that the U.S. has some of these things somewhere and has discovered +that they are as real -- yet ephemeral -- as a leprechaun's pot 'o gold. I.e.: + They've got them, but they can't DO anything with them. Nevertheless they +could exist. And Lazar may be telling the truth. + +If your doubts center around Lazar's still being alive -- in other words, why +was he allowed to "leak & live". Well, people like Lazar are double-edged +swords. Nothing gets public attention faster than an untimely death. +Especially if it's the death of someone who's been telling a story. It looks +like Cooper's theories (which coincide with Lazar's revalations) may stem from +Lazar himself. So if Lazar is authentic -- if his references check -- then the +Cooper sideshow may be just that. A sideshow, and not the main event. + +Anyway, until Lazar is discredited -- or discredits himself -- I'm definitely +prepared to stay with this one. + +Best, + Clark + +--- QuickBBS v2.04 + * Origin: -==- Denver, CO (303)232-6115 (1:104/422) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 150 401 + + +295/417 04 Dec 89 12:31:54 +From: Usenet News +To: All +Subj: Lazar and his Amazing Saucers +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +Date: 29 Nov 89 20:47:15 GMT +Message-ID: <1519@taos.AlphaCDC.COM> +Newsgroups: info.paranet + +Hello, paranet friends, + +I have been reading the newsletter from paranet for some time now. +This is my first posting. + ++I just had an interesting thought...if you had been sitting on the secret ++of S-4 and dreamland for a long while, and had instructions to release the ++information to the public only if it would not cause a crisis, what better ++time to stage-leak the real story, as most of Eastern Europe and the Soviet ++Union call off the cold war? Perhaps what Reagan was telling Gorbachev ++in their summit conferences is that we'll all hang separately if we don't ++hang together. ++ ++More paranoia from, ++ ++Michael Sloan MacLeod (amdahl!drivax!macleod) + +Regarding Lazar, I just wonder about the fact that we are on the eve +of a summit of great significance to the entire world. As much as +we would all like to believe this intriguing tale (since so many +questions would be answered), I have to think that our government +has a powerful motivation at the moment for promoting this kind of +idea. + +Given the credulity of Soviets on this subject, how likely is it +that the Soviet intelligence community is going crazy right now +trying to verify this story before the summit? Is this all +designed to throw Gorbachev off balance? + +If our government tried to announce such a thing (supposing it is +false) they would be innundated with requests for demonstrations +and explanations, which would ruin the ruse. But the region where +these events are alleged to have occurred would be under constant +scrutiny by Soviet agents, given the history of the area. The +agents assigned to the area probably observed the news programs +with great interest. + +Then there is the involvement of Cooper. Readers will have to judge +for themselves the significance of this. + + Here is my scenario: +Lazar works for some intelligence outfit. His background was wiped +out (ineffectively) in the hopes that the attempt to erase his +history would give credibility to his story. Others that come +forward are part of the same effort. Some are actual believers +who have been convinced by the thoroughness of the deception. + +The information is released in controlled packets, perhaps some +intelligence leaks were provided directly to Soviet agents to +prepare them to be receptive when the television program came on. +It all is building up so that the climax of the scam occurs just +before the summit. The result is that Gorbachev is off balance +and Bush has the advantage. + + +I think this is much more likely than the possibility that what +Lazar says is true, for these reasons: + +1) If this project were so top secret as Lazar says, he would + never have appeared on that program. Lazar said they knew + he was going to leak in advance. If that were true he + would have been dead. They would not wait until now to + take sniper shots at him, and if they did, they wouldn't + miss. + +2) Bill Cooper has discredited himself, and he appears to be + involved. + +3) After reading on the subject, I am inclined to believe that + the spiritual/supernatural/extradimensional aspect is the + most significant. I could go into this, but let me just + say that I too have been reading Dimensions, and the ideas + presented there make more sense than anything else I have seen + on the subject. This story does not fit the scenario. + Instead it fits into a neat materialistic mold which would + allow the military to control the phenomena by purely + physical means. This does not mean it is necessarily bogus, + it just makes me suspicious. It is too neat; too easy and pat. + +4) The gov't has a history of "leaking" bogus UFO stories. + +5) They are motivated to try to maintain the upper hand by the + significance of this summit, in light of political developments. + This whole thing may have been generated directly in response + to developments in Eastern Europe. + +6) The whole thing may be relatively unimportant to our intelligence + community - just another little game to try to keep the other + guys confused, and good practice at generating disinformation. + + +Sorry, it's just too bizarre to believe without tons of corroboration +from many independent sources. + +Cheers, +--Steve +------------------------------------------------------------------------- + {uunet,sun}!convex!swarren; swarren@convex.COM + +--- ConfMail V4.00 + * Origin: Paranet - The world's most important computer network (1:30163/150) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 100 150 401 + +369/417 11 Dec 89 18:47:49 +From: infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com +To: All +Subj: Info-Paranet #94 +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +From: infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com +Date: 11 Dec 89 07:28:28 GMT +Message-ID: <2359@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> +Newsgroups: info.paranet + +From: isis!uunet!sparta!sun!esanborn (Ed Sanborn) + + +Mike C., + + I seemed to have missed 'Info-Paranet #94'. If you could please send an +email of this I'd appreciate it. Looking forward to the Video-tapes of +Lazar happenings. Please feel free to fill the tapes with misc. at end. + + Also, what's this business of missing coverage of these broadcasts? +Maybe this should be directed at Robert Klinn but it would be a shame if we +and quite possibly a tragedy if we aren't able to monitor the complete +broadcasts. What is the price status if someone wanted to get copies of the +broadcasts from the TV stations? + + Thanks, + + Ed Sanborn + uunet!sparta!esanborn + w: (508) 937-1600 + h: (508) 453-5609 + +--- ConfMail V4.00 + * Origin: Paranet - The world's most important computer network (1:30163/150) +SEEN-BY: 19/19 101/667 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 +SEEN-BY: 133/107 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 +SEEN-BY: 265/12 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 +SEEN-BY: 1063/304 3607/20 30163/3 22 100 150 401 + + +394/417 14 Dec 89 19:14:53 +From: infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com +To: All +Subj: Lazar/115 +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ +From: infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com +Date: 14 Dec 89 16:41:19 GMT +Message-ID: <2399@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> +Newsgroups: info.paranet + +From: chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu (John H. Chalmers Jr.) + +Is there any independent confirmation that a nuclear explosion occurred +in the atmosphere in 1986 as Lazar claims? The signature of such a blast +if due to 115 would be completly different from a fission or fusion +explosion. there would be no fission products from an antimatter explosion +an dprobably much less induced radioactivity. Is athere any data on this +supposed event in Nevada. Try the anti-nuke or environmetal groups. +--John + +--- ConfMail V4.00 + * Origin: Paranet(sm) - The world's most important computer network (1:30163/1 +SEEN-BY: 19/19 104/422 428 114/37 115/876 120/80 132/113 133/107 +SEEN-BY: 138/111 140/32 141/790 147/66 231/40 252/18 265/12 +SEEN-BY: 268/102 283/630 304/1 3 363/17 371/10 382/33 1063/304 +SEEN-BY: 3607/20 30163/3 22 100 150 401 + + +404/417 15 Dec 89 22:55:00 +From: Michael Corbin +To: Infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com +Subj: Lazar/115 +Attr: +------------------------------------------------ + > Is there any independent confirmation that a nuclear + > explosion occurred + > in the atmosphere in 1986 as Lazar claims? The signature of + > such a blast + > if due to 115 would be completly different from a fission + > or fusion + > explosion. there would be no fission products from an + > antimatter explosion + > an dprobably much less induced radioactivity. Is athere any + > data on this + > supposed event in Nevada. Try the anti-nuke or environmetal + > groups. + +Very good point. This and others aspects are currently being investigated in +the Nevada region. Most of the aspects of the historocity of the Air Force's +acquisition of 90,000 acres is correct, Lazar seems to rely heavily upon these +types of activities as a means to support his claims. However, this does not +mean that they are even inter-related to one another or to his experience. I +found the land grab inception to Lazar's story very interesting. The way that +it was presented to the television public made it sound as though it was very +mysterious, however, the Air Force did not say that their authority to do the +act of acquiring the land was higher than the United States, but only higher +than the Air Force. Surely, other departments of the government are at a +higher level than the Air Force, and with this in mind plus the fact that +Dreamland has been known to be super-secret for over forty years does not +support Lazar's claims. If there was an unscheduled nuclear test in 1987, this +may be suspect. I am very interested in that test and whether it was authentic +and if there was anything unusual registered by anyone monitoring the +atmosphere. + +Mike + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2939.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2939.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c745440a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2939.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +SUBJECT: MJ12 - MYTH OR REALITY ? FILE: UFO2939 + + + + + + +>>The following article is the first of two parts excerpted from "Just Cause", +the quarterly newsletter of CAUS, Citizens Against UFO Secrecy. Run by Barry +Greenwood and Lawrence Fawcett, this organization attempts to gain access to +government documents on UFOs through the Freedom of Information Act. +______________________ + +MJ12: MYTH OR REALITY? +______________________ + + Did a secret government panel once intensively study a crashed-UFO case +with compelling physical evidence at its disposal? Did this panel set the UFO +debunking policy for the government which persists to this day? These are +certainly questions which have echoed throughout UFOlogy for decades, +generating scores of wild rumors. Many of the rumors died a quick death while +others lingered, helped along mainly by a cadre of conspiracy +theorists/supporters. One such story was Frank Scully's Aztec, New Mexico UFO +crash, which formed the basis for the 1950 book "BEHIND THE FLYING SAUCERS". In +virtually all of theses cases, the substance necessary to the credibility of +the story was sorely lacking. + + Recent revelations have shown that at least a small number of the surviving +rumors deserve a day in court, most notably the Roswell, NM incident of 1947, +involving the alleged crash of a UFO and the recovery and study of the debris +(and bodies) at Wright Field (now Wright-Patterson AFB, OH). + + A relatively new rumor has surfaced which we would like to discuss in some +detail because it is new and it bears some interesting connections to old +stories. CAUS does not yet endorse this as fact. Our long-standing policy of +requiring conclusive government documentation still stands and will always +stand. We have yet to see such documentation in this instance. Nevertheless, it +is hoped that open discussion will elicit practical response toward proving or +burying this latest tale. + + During the final stages of "CLEAR INTENT" [Greenwood and Fawcett, 1984], I +had collected documents related to multiple sightings of UFOs over Kirtland +AFB, NM in August, 1980. The story of this series of reports is in the Epilog +of CLEAR INTENT. What wasn't inserted in the book was a document, allegedly a +government document, which had made the rounds in the so-called UFO grapevine. +It told of an analysis performed of the "Dr. Bennewitz" photographic data which +had been part of the subject matter in the confirmed AFOSI [Air Force Office of +Special Investigations] file release on Kirtland. It concluded that some of the +photos were "legitimate negatives of unidentified aerial objects." The document +went on to discuss, very briefly, a top-secret "Project Aquarius" and something +called "MJ 12". These terms meant little to us at the time so inquiries were +launched to determine the origin of the terms and the document. + + No government agency had any knowledge of the matter, and the alleged +originator, AFOSI, said that the document was a "fabrication". Since we had no +evidence to prove otherwise and since the document came from a source other +than the FOIA [Freedom Of Information Act], I chose not to use it in CI. My +copy of the Aquarius document contained several misspellings and irregularities +in format, further adding to my suspicions but I did not rule out the +possibility of this perhaps being a retyped version of an original, legitimate +document by a "mole" in the military. The piece was filed and remained in limbo +for a time. + + This past summer the mysterious "MJ 12" portion of the Aquarius document +surfaced again when CAUS was advised by several members that California UFO +researcher Lee Graham was conducting inquiries into MJ 12, apparently based on +specific information from an unknown individual in the government. The +specifics were rather intriguing. + + MJ 12, or Majestic 12, was a panel formed to investigate and report its +findings to the President of the United States on the matter of Unidentified +Flying Objects. It addressed in particular the Roswell, NM incident of July 2, +1947. The panel consisted of the following individuals: + + Detlev W. Bronk + Lloyd V. Berkner + Vannevar Bush + James V. Forrestal + Gordon Gray + Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter + Jerome C. Hunsaker + Donald H. Menzel + Sidney W. Souers + Nathan F. Twining + Hoyt S. Vandenberg + Robert M. Montague + + The report submitted to the President, called "MJ 12", was classified "Top +Secret - Eyes Only", 9 back-to-back pages long, dated September 18, 1947, and +was signed by President Harry S Truman. + + And how did Mr. Graham get this information? He saw it! He held the +document in his hands, which was briefly supplied to him by his military +source. + + Naturally, many questions arise out of this. Was this document an official +document? It could have been a fake except that the signature of President +Truman was checked and matched with an authentic Truman signature (Graham did +this from emory as he wasn't allowed to keep a copy.) It still could have been +faked but then why does an individual go to the trouble of typing up a lengthy, +phony document, show it to a single person, then take it back again when much +more could have been gained from a hoax by letting Graham keep it for +dissemination? A document with a recognizable signature of a President would +certainly raise a few eyebrows! It would still be suspect despite that but it +would not be readily apparent if supplied on photocopy in lieu of an original. + + Therefore, for a time, a hoax document would catch fire in the UFO +community, cause much comment and consequently give the hoaxer much +satisfaction. + + Such did not happen here. It is not clear why a potential "disinformer" did +not follow up on a promising situation, unless of course the document were +real. The informers' behavior here is a little more consistent with his being +a "leaker" of sensitive informatio on UFOs. However, there is no way to prove +it at this time. A checkable copy of this document would have to surface for +examination. + +__________________________________ +>>To be continued in another file. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2940.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2940.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5da362a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2940.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +SUBJECT: JUST CASUE NEWSLETTER FILE: UFO2940 + + + + + +>>Second of two-part excerpt from "Just Cause", newsletter of Citizens Against +UFO Secrecy, regarding the controversial "Aquarius" memo, and "MJ 12". +_______________ + +What about the data in the "MJ12" report? The date is immediately telling. +September 18, 1947, is the birthday of the CIA, the official first day of their +existence! Is it a coincidence or a tell-tale clue to the document being phony? +Or could this report have been one of the first orders of business for the +flegdling CIA? + + The connection of the 1947 Roswell incident to this affair makes sense. +Based on the information unveiled by Bill Moore, Stan Friedman and others, the +Roswell crash was clearly a major topic in high government circles. It strains +credibility to think that piles of metallic debris would have been sent to +Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio from New Mexico for analysis if the material were +simply parts of what should have been an easily-recognizable radar reflector +balloon to Army Air Force officers. After the arrival of the material at +Wright-Patterson and wherever else it may have gone, official documentation +ceases. No useful government files describing analysis of the debris have been +unearthed. Obviously analysis took place somewhere. Where is the report? If the +Roswell object were a strange device of some sort, then involvement of the +individuals listed as MJ 12 would make sense. + + My first thoughts upon seeing this list of people is that if a UFO had +crashed and was recovered, this would be the kind of panel that I would want to +put together to investigate the matter. All of these individuals were at the +top in their respective areas of experience during the late 1940's and had the +added benefit of government experience behind them. The Majestic 12 indeed! + + + A number of them were later involved in the UFO phenomenon. In fact, fully +half of the panel would make a mark on UFO history during and after 1947: + + +o Hoyt Vandenberg - said to have read the now-famous 1948 "Estimate of the +Situation" and subsequently ordered it downgraded and destroyed for lack of +evidence that UFO's were interplanetary. + +o Roscoe Hillenkoeter - Former board member of NICAP and proponent of UFO +reality. +o Vannevar Bush - Mentioned in the formelry top secret Canadian "Smith memo" +of November 21, 1950, as the head of a "concentrated effort" to study UFOs. +o Nathan Twining - Authored a well-known September 1947 Air Force memo +strongly endorsing the serious nature of UFOs. +o Donald Menzel - Author of 3 books debunking the UFO phenomenon. +o Lloyd Berkner - member of the CIA's "Robertson Panel" of 1953. + + Panel members' background show that most had connections to either the +National Security Council or the Research and Development Board (R&DB). The +R&DB figures prominently in testimony given to us by Dr. Robert Sarbacher and +CAUS is convinced that UFO file material exists in the R&DB's holdings at the +National Archives. + + Another curiousity. General Twining's pro-UFO "flying discs" memo (see +CLEAR INTENT, pp.213-214) dated September 23, 1947, comes only five days after +the MJ12 report. Could Twining's possible connection to an MJ12 panel have had +an influence on his writing of the 9/23/47 memo? + + The listing of Vandenberg and particularly Donald Menzel as MJ12 members is +a major curiousity since both had later negative involvement in UFOs. If an +MJ12 Panel concluded that UFOs were real, Menzel's and Vandenberg's debunking +would seem illogical. Or would it? + + If a singular incident of high national security importance occurred, like +a Roswell incident, such could be classified more highly even that the H-Bomb, +as the Smith memo so aptly put it. As study of the phenomenon progressed, +secrecy would be of the utmost importance and any effort to diffuse the +interest of the public and non-need-to-know personnel would be encouraged. +Therefore, General Vandenberg, by batting down Project Sign's "Estimate of the +Situation", would be preventing undue attention from being drawn to the subject +by Project Sign personnel, who could not be regarded as having access to data +more highly classified than the H-Bomb. It was too visible to be part of an +"inner circle". The "Estimate" also lacked the proof to justify an +interplanetary explanation for UFOs. +_________________________________ +>>To be continued in another file + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2941.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2941.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..103c608d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2941.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@ +SUBJECT: CORRECTION TO ULT SECRET FILE: UFO2941 + + + + + + Date: 07-19Ä92 (13:23) Message Number: 6348 (31 of 172) + To: ALL Ref #: + From: JACK MATHIAS Read: Public +Subject: CORRECTION TO ULT SECRET Conference: UFO +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +[PPRCOR.TXT] +This is a correction that should be inserted to replace the +original text to the Phoenix Project Report ULTSEC.TXT, ULTSEC.ZIP. +For those who received it as messages over various echoes the area +to be replaced falls into part 8 of 17. + + + Separate projects under the umbrella of Project Aquarius are: + + PROJECT GRUDGE: This project was originally established in +1948, and is under the control of the CIA, NSA, and MAJI. Project +Grudge went underground and another project, Project Sign, was +created in December of 1947, was used as a cover operation. + + In February of 1949, Project Sign was officially abolished, +however, unofficially it continued its operations until Project +Blue Book was created in June of 1951. Project Aquarius, became the +overall umbrella operation controlling all these projects. Project +Aquarius was funded by CIA confidential funds (non-appropriated). +The Project assumed full responsibility for investigation and +intelligence of UFOs/IACs in December 1969 after Project +Grudge/Blue Book was closed. The purpose of Project Aquarius was to +collect all scientific, technological, medical and intelligence +information from UFO/IAC sightings and contacts with alien +lifeforms. This orderly file of collected information has been used +to advance the United States' Space Program and provided the data +needed to develop present stealth technology. + +..... +end of correction. +... Even Proof readers, error. +--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2942.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2942.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e9e2f344 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2942.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@ +SUBJECT: NAPA HILLS - YET ANOTHER SECRET BASE ! FILE: UFO2942 + + + + + +Tue 26 Jan 93 22:12 +By: Steve Jones +To: All +Re: The Goings On in the Napa Hills-Yet another secret base! +St: +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +Greetings to All- + The post will summarize information that I have received from Harry +Martin of the Napa Sentinel regarding a secret military base being +constructed in the mountains to the NW of Napa, California. First, it +should be pointed out that there have been horse and cattle mutilations +in the area this last summer. Whether this has anything to do with UFO's +is still an open question, but indications that what I had outlined as a +possible scenerio last fall look very likely. + First of all, this is by no means the only facility of this nature. +There are apparently several others strategically located around the +country and they are designed to provide haven for important government +officials, scientists and military in case of attack or disaster. In the +case of the facility in the Napa hills, the efforts seem to be a combined +effort between the Air Force and Wackenhut, with primary efforts coming out +of Hamilton Field, a semi-abandoned United States Air Force Base in Marin +County, north of San Francisco. The facility is built on BLM land without +BLM's knowledge or permission (???) and consists of underground bunkers +with large blast doors. The is a satellite tower with 8-10 up-facing +discs. The black helicopters that go in and out of this facility have +no markings and are NOT from Hamilton Field. Communication linkage is by +laser. Supplies come in by helicopter rather than by truck, even though +there is a new road into the site. + According to Harry this site is designed to take control should there +be a major disaster or nuclear attack. My question is from who??? +Survivability is the key. Seems that there will be chosen few that will +have access. I don't like the looks of this opeation! + + Sincerely- Steve Jones- Co-Moderator Sacramento UFO Group + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2943.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2943.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..aeecb453 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2943.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,277 @@ +SUBJECT: THE NAPA VALLEY SECRET INSTALLATION FILE: UFO2943 + + + + + +Sat 30 Jan 93 18:27 +By: Steve Jones +To: All +Re: The Napa Valley Secret Installation-Article +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +The following is a transcription of the series of articles that +were written +by Harry Martin of the Napa Sentinel commencing September 1992 on the +secret underground facility that has been built and appears to be +operational +on the Oakville Grade between Napa and Glenn Ellen, California. +Comments +that I have inserted are in [ ]s. Permission to transcribe this +entire +series, as well as transmitting it over whatever medium necessary +to inform +the people was received from Harry V. Martin, the publisher of the +Napa +Sentinel on January 30, 1993 at 5:14 PM. The author has given +permission +to copy this article. His primary interest is that the People be +informed. + +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + + By Harry V. Martin + +Editors Note: Despite the fact that Napa Sentinel Publisher has +been on +vacation since last week, he is continuing to do research on the +local +helicopter mystery. He is preparing a series on the entire +helicopter +issue which will commence on Tuesday, September 1. The Sentinel-as +the +first and foremost media coving the issue-has confirmed that the +helicopter +traffic is a classified military project operating out of Hamiliton +Air +Force Base. The series will focus on several scenerios on what the +secret +helicopter missions are all about. + ------- + The United States Air Force has confirmed that those mysterious +helicopter flights over the Napa County are classified operations. +The +helicopters are supplying what appears to be a secret base located on +Bureau of Land Management property-without the knowledge or +permission +of the Bureau. The U.S. military has not informed Napa County, nor +has +it indicated anything on FAA/Military maps. + Aerial shots taken this weekend over the 87 acre Bureau land near +Oakville +grade show large cement bunkers with large concrete doors, a new +road, +freshly graded, and some underground facility. The satellite +link-ups +have geo-sychronized microwave dishes pointed straight up. There +are approx- +imetely 8 to 10 dishes on the tower, which is not shown on any FAA +map. + The aerial shots would indicate that a lot of government money has +gone into the building of this secret base in Napa. The structure +is +virtually on a mountain top. The military helicopter overflights are +apparently supplying them [mispelled on original copy] underground +facility. + The cargo helicopters, however, are only part of the traffic. +Black +helicopters without markings have been making 3 a.m. flights to the +facility. +[Harry has indicated to me that these choppers are operated by +Wackenhut] +There are several black helicopters at Hamilton Air Force Base-but +all of +them have some identifying marking, particularly FBI markings. One +helicopter +only has a Playboy bunny on the tail. + The Air Force will not comment on the helicopters, only stating, +"The +helicopter traffic over the Napa Hills is a clasified operation." + The Sentinel acknowledges the valuable assistance of Mike +Jamieson [who, +BTW is with MUFON's Northern California chapter] for supplying +films of +the location. + But what type of military base is in the Napa Hills and what is its +function? That will be part of an extensive series commencing +September 1- +exclusive reports from within the military and intelligence +community. + +(end of article 1) +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + +For the record, this footnote appears after the last of the +articles that +Harry has given me. It strongly indicates that he is indeed well +connected +in the intelligence community. Not necessarily well-liked (he told +me +that he and Bo Gritz are not on the best of speaking terms), but well +connected nonetheless- + +"Editor's Note: Harry Martin has been the editorial director of +Military +Electronics and Countermeasures, Defense Electronics, Microwave +Systems +News, International Countermeasures Handbook, and publisher of +Defense +Systems Review and Military Communications." + + Harry has told me that anyone who has any information regarding any +additional facilities of this type that have been or are being +built, should +contact either himself (at the Napa Sentinel, 925 Lincoln Avenue, +Napa, CA +94558--phone #(707)257-6272 or fax (707)257-3035 ) or send me +netmail, +and I will relay the information to him. + + -Steve Jones- Co-Moderator- Sacramento UFO Group + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +In continuing his series on the Napa Valley secret military facility, +Harry Martin gives quite a bit more information on the site. It +should +be noted here that last summer, there were several mutilations in +this +area of Napa/Sonoma Counties. + +(reproduced with the authors permission-see prior transmission) +transcribers comments again in []. +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + + By Harry V. Martin + copyright, Napa Sentinel 1992 + + A secret installation near the Oakville Grade is being used by the +United States Government for three purposes. Increased helicopter +traffic +is linked to this installation. + The installations and helicopter traffic serve the following +purposes: +-Direct satellite communications. +-Continuity of the U.S. Government in case of nuclear attack or other +disasters. +-Secure communications links with the outside world in the event of a + disaster. + The helicopter traffic over the last year has been provisioning an +elaborate underground complex designed to hold government officials, +scientists and other high eshelon personnel in the event of an +emergency. +The helicopters have been transporting generators, food stock, +electronic +and communications equipment, and other items to the site. + The secret government site is replacing other installations and +combining +them into one solid underground center. An installation at Benicia +is +considered too marginal and vulnerable. It's functions have been +transferred +to Napa. An underground facility in Ukiah-an old railroad +tunnel-was not +serving the full purpose. The remote area of Napa [actually not +that remote, +but close to such facilities as Lawrence-Livermore, Mare Island +Naval Base, +Alemeda Naval Air Station, the Presidio, Travis AFB, McClellan AFB, +as well +as Beale AFB] was selected to combine the functions of the Ukiah +and Benicia +facilities into a more secure area [why?]. Napa is considered to +be safe +from the nuclear fallout zone of the targeted areas in the San +Francisco +Bay Area [I question this, as the site is only 20 miles from Mare +Island]. + The facility in the Napa Hills is heavily fortified and protected +with +thick concrete. It's microwave tower is pointed toward Santa Rosa, +where +AT&T has secure communications links. The microwave dishes are to +guarantee +government officials with direct access to national communications +links. +The government has always relied on AT&T for these links. [It +should be +noted that within 50 miles in 3 directions of this site are 3 major +military +communications facilities-one SE of Davis, one north of Sacramento +and one +west of Petaluma.] + The satellite dishes make direct communication with geosyncronized +satellites at regular intervals. The communication linkage is by +laser, +which accounts for the constant reports of light beams and flashes +in the +area [this sounds like the same reports out of the Quincy NASA +facility- +hummm?]. The operation in Napa County is classified according to +the +United States Air Force. + The area has been serviced by unmarked helicopters for some time. + There +have been other helicopter overflights, some as part of the Drug +Enforcement +Agency sweep and others are National Guard training missions. But +the main +and constant force has been to supply this secret installation. + The United States Government has similar installations all over +the nation. +These facilities are all located in remote areas which would not +normally be +targeted by enemy nations for a nuclear strike. [What comes to +mind here, +and Harry is intrigued by it too, is the truck loads that are left +in the +middle of nowhere-remember that thread??] Napa Valley's wine growing +areas provide a good cover for such an installation. + Similar helicopter traffic has been reported in other areas of +California +and the west, which indicates the government is creating new +facilities or +is preparing for some type of disaster or upheaval. + The helicopters used in Napa are olive drab and also black-all +unmarked. +The olie drab helicopters originate from Hamilton Air Force Base +[which +is supposed to have been decommisioned several years ago] and +operate +generally in the late afternoon and in the evening. The black +helicopters +generally operate in the late evening and early morning hours. The +olive +drab helicopters are providing supplies to the secret installation, +but +the black helicopters are providing direct laser communication to +satellites. + Hamilton Air Force Base has confirmed that the helicopters +originate +from their area and that the mission is classified. + +(end of article) + +--------------------------------------------------------------------- + +It should be noted here that when the cattle and horse mutilations +occurred +last year, there were unconfirmed reports of thes black helicopters +landing +and the occupants (who were dressed in unmarked uniforms that +looked like +Delta Force) wore night vision gear. They sealed off the area and +ask +everyone to leave immediately. This is the same thing that +happened up +in Georgetown (just 40 miles east of Sacramento) last April. + + If anyone has additional information on such facilities, please +contact +Harry Martin at the Napa Sentinel, 926 Lincoln Avenue, Napa CA 94558 + +Sincerely- Steve Jones- Co-Moderator- Sacramento UFO Group + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2944.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2944.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c3aff73a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2944.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +SUBJECT: THE MYSTERY AT GROOM LAKE FILE: UFO2944 + + + + + +The following article appeared in _Newsweek_, Nov. 1, 1993, p. 4. + + The Mystery at Groom Lake + +IS THE AIR FORCE TESTING A new supersecret aircraft, code-named "Aurora," at +its Groom Lake facility in Nevada? The air force denies the existence of such +a project. But NEWSWEEK has learned that Air Force Secretary Sheila Widnall on +Sept. 30 asked Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt to close 3,900 acres of public +land in Lincoln County, Nev., for the "safe and secure operation of activities +on the Nellis Range." + Why? In recent months reporters and aviation buffs have stationed +themselves on two hills on the land, which overlooks Nellis' top-secret Groom +Lake, known inside the air force as Area 51. They say they've seen up to six +Boeing 737 commuter jets a day flying workers in from Palmdale and Burbank, +Calif., and from Las Vegas. And they report night flights of a craft that, +judging from its lights, has extraordinary maneuverability. + Now Widnall has moved to shut down the Groom Lake bleachers. The hills are +part of the 3,900-acre tract she's asked Babbitt to close off. An air force +spokeswoman confirmed Widnall's request. At Interior, a spokeswoman said: "We +gather the air force wants the land to create a visual barrier, a buffer to +keep the public from looking into part of the Nellis Range the air force wants +to keep secure." + Aviation expert Bill Sweetman, who's written a new book on the "Aurora" +mystery, notes that the remote Groom Lake facility is so costly to operate that +the air force generally uses other bases for its standard secret projects. "So +what's going on at Groom Lake that Widnall has been persuaded she must hide?" +he asks. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2945.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2945.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..54273f9f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2945.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +SUBJECT: MORE ON HOW TO REPORT UFOs FILE: UFO2945 + + + + + + PRNC 3820.1 + Code 03 + 23 July 1954 +HEADQUARTERS +Potomac River Naval Station +Washington, D.C. + + +PRNC Instruction 3820.1 +from: Commandant, Potomac River Naval Command +To: Distribution list 2 +Subj: Unidnentified Flying Objects; reporting of +Ref: (a)opnav notice 3820 of 26 Sept 1952 + (b) JANAP 146 (c) + (c)Air Force letter 200-5 of 29 Apr 1952 (enclosure) (1) to ref (a) + (d) comeastseafrom instruction 3820.2 +1. PURPOSE. to provide guidance for procedures to be followed for reporting +unidentified flying objects. +2. Definition. unidentified flying objects as used in this instruction +relate to any airborne object which by performance, aerodynamic +characteristics, or unusal features does not conform to any presently known +aircraft or missile. +3. Background. reference (a) states that the U.S. Air Force has the primary +responsibility for collection of subject information and has requested the +cooperation of all Naval activities in reporting such information. +4. (a) addressees are requested to report any data on unidentified flying +objects without delay by message in multiple adress to: + ACTION: (a) Director of intelligence, Headquarters USAF, Washington, D.C. + (b) Air Technical Intelligence center, Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio- ATTN: + ATLAA-2C. + (c) Commander, Air Defense Command, Ent AFB, Colorado Springs, Colorado + (d) Commander, Eastern Air Defense Force, Stewart AFB, Newburgh, N.Y. +INFO: (e) Director of Naval Intelligence, Navy Department, Washington D.C. + (f) Commander Eastern Sea Frontier, 90 Church street, New York, N.Y. + (g) Commandant, Potomac River Naval Command, U.S. Naval Gun Factory, + Washington, D.C. +b. The symbol FLYOBRPT (flying object report) will appear at the beginning + of the text messages to facilitate identification. +c. reports will include, insofar as possible : + (1) a brief description of the objects; shape,size, color, number, +formation if more than one, aerodynamic features, trail or exhaust, +propulsion system, speed, sound, maneuvers, manner of disappearance, and +other pertinent or unusal features. + (2) time of sighting in 24 hour clock zonal time, and length of time +observed. + (3) manner of observation; visual or electronic, from air (give speed, +altitude and type of aircraft), or surface. Any type of optical or +electronic equipment used should be described. + (4) location of observer during sighting, giving exact latitude and +longitude as closely as feasible, and/or reference to a known landmark. +Location of object (s) with respect to observer, giving distance, +direction, and altitude. + (5) Identifying information of observer (s) and witness (s), estimate of +reliability and experience, and any factors bearing on estimated +reliability of the sighting. + (6) Weather and winds aloft conditions at time and place of sighting(s). + (7) Any activity or condition, meteorological or otherwise, which might +account for the sighting. + (8) Existence of any physical evidence such as fragments, photographs and +the like, of the sighting (s). + (9) Interception or identification action taken. (such action may be +taken whenever feasible, complying with existing air defense directives). + (10) Location of any air traffic in the general area at the time of the +sighing (s). +d. It should be noted that the above instructions are separate from those +required for reporting normal surface and air sightings prescribed by +reference +(b) and CINCLANTFLT instructions concerning same. +E. Addressees are requested to give theses instructions wide dissemination +within their commands. + + T.B.HILL [Rear Admiral, USN ] + V. HAVARD,Jr. [CAPTAIN, USN } + Chief of Staff + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2946.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2946.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..486d321d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2946.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +SUBJECT: DEAD COW FOUND WITH PARTS MISSING FILE: UFO2946 + + + + + FORTEANA NEWS + + DAILY WORLD, Helena, AR-Aug. 20, 1990 + + DEAD COW FOUND WITH PARTS MISSING + + By Marla Clark + World Staff Writer + + Helena police don't know what to make of a dead cow, with various body parts missing, found in a pasture this morning. + While feeding his cows in Griffin Valley early today, Buron Griffin noticed one lying on the ground. As he got closer, he saw it was dead and parts of the cow had been cut off. + Helena Police Chief Boyd Williams, Sgt. Larry Summerhill with the Helena Criminal Investigation Division, and Phillips County deputy sheriff Ronnie White made the first investigation this morning. + Williams said it appeared the cow's right ear, part of her udder, anus, and genital organs had been cut off. + Griffin said the cow was a registered Brown Swiss and was one of five of that breed of cow, he had grazing there. + Over the last three months, Griffin reported, he has lost several of his Brown Swiss cows. Griffin said he had assumed that they'd been stolen. + "Over a period of about three months, they've been disappearing out of the pasture," Griffin said. "Four of them have disappeared, and now I have four left." + When asked if they thought it might be youth-related or connected to some type of animal sacrifice or devil worshiping, Williams and Griffin said they had no idea. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2947.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2947.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f3c51b73 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2947.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +SUBJECT: NINE UFO's REPORTED AT NEVADA TEST SITE FILE: UFO2947 + + + + + + 11/12/89 + + NINE UFO's REPORTED AT NEVADA TEST SITE + + A recent upload (11/12/89) was contributed by Warren York of El Paso. + The report was apparently removed from a UFO conference and was rather + disjointed and sketchy. For additional information, we wish to thank + Cheyenne Turner and MUFON METROPLEX of Dallas. + + The subject matter concerns a report aired on a Nevada TV station + stating that NINE UFO's had been witnessed at the Nevada Test Site + labeled by the military as Area 51. + + Reports regarding the activities of aliens commonly referred to as the + Greys and as given by John Lear, Paul Bennewitz and William Moore + refer to this area as "Dreamland". + + Physicist Robert Lazar was working for an unidentified government + agency at the Area 51 Test Site. His job function involved the + analysis of the method of propulsion used by these nine UFO's. + + Lazar was fired from his position when it was discovered that he had + been discussing his work and the existence of the UFO's with persons + and groups outside his security clearance. + + Lazar reports that he had one tire shot out while driving down the + freeway in Las Vegas, after being terminated. + + John Lear, also well known in UFO circles, was fired from his job with + a Cargo carrier making charter flights in and out of Europe. + + Lear was asked if the subject matter as expounded in his lectures was + representative of his personal beliefs, he said yes. His termination + was because his beliefs didn't fit the company image. + + Lear was immediately hired by another airline. + + The story of the NINE UFO's was reported and confirmed by Robert Lazar + to reporter George Knapp of KLAS-TV. + + Again, the on-air claim that + + "NINE UFO'S WERE BEING HELD FOR ANALYSIS AT THE + NEVADA TEST SITE IN NEVADA." + + Anyone doubting this can call Channel 8, KLAS-TV @ 702-733-8850. + + This information is courteously shared by Mr. Warren York of the + Cheyenne Mountain BBS in El Paso. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2948.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2948.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0ab9cbcd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2948.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ +SUBJECT: DEEP VOODOO AT AREA 51 FILE: UFO2948 + + + + + +Tue 22 Jun 93 0:19 +By: Don Allen +Re: Deep Voodoo at Area 51 +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ + > His personal experiences are what ultimately, IMHO triggered his + > anger. He + > has had his tires shot out from under him by the Wackenhut Security + > Forces at + > Area 51. He fully understands the motives, the goals, the + > methodologies and + > the private he..s that people are enduring in this juncture in human + > history. + +Hi Steve. I found Rich's posts both stimulating and highly intriquing. To say +the least, I have many questions about him and his experiences. It's hoped that +at some point, that Rich will entertain the notion to return to echomail +interaction once again. I've noted that his book is due out soon (in August). I +have some wonders at his use of a colorful moniker such as "Interstellar +Counter-Intelligence" , but perhaps that's _his "dig" at the Dark Forces behind +Wackenhut ;^_) . If Rich has had these (above quoted) actions taken +against him in the pursuit of investigation of Area 51 , then it should be a +concern to all of us. + +Warning Disclaimer: +=================== + +The following constitutes my own puzzle-solving and is not offered as 'gospel- +truth'. Much of this is the result of many phone conversations with Dan Smith +who is in a position to know many of the principals, and who has been chasing +leads over a long period of time. I offer it in the spirit of inviting further +investigation into the very murky world of 'The Aviary', the 'Working Groups' +and Wackenhut's agenda for Area 51. + +========================================================================== + + +Especially since more and more of my research points to Dale Graff and Ron +Pandolphi with Wackenhut-connected ties to Aviary members. Actually, I think +Howard Blum was only on to part of the web in his book, "Out There". More and +more parts of this puzzle indicate that not just -one- "Working Group" +is in practice..it's closer to reality to say *two* exist. One is civilian and +the other is military connected. + +The civilian part appears to be Ron Pandolphi, John Alexander and Ed Dames. As +you may well be aware of, Ed Dames and John Alexander comprise PSI TECH. Mr. +Alexander is said to be up for a post in the Clinton Administration for Under- +Secretary of Defense. Through phone contacts, it also appears that Ron +Pandolphi has worked for Wackenhut, and may also be connected with Bill Moore +via Moore's contribution in UFO pieces to Larry Flynt's "Far Out" magazine. My +understanding is that Pandolphi does contract work for the CIA and has a _very +high security access to the President. It's conceivable that Pandolphi was +behind Bill Moore in the dis-informing of Paul Bennewitz (all roads lead back +to Kirtland AFB). . Mr. Pandolphi +resides in Great Falls, Va. Ed Dames..we've seen things on here about him and +his muchly discussed "alien liason' event that he's mentioned will take place +in "August" (he says) in the Four Corners area of NM. Ed is also going around +talking as how an "alien virus" is what got 'loose' in that area recently. +(Conspiracy Theory Alert!). My own take on him is he's a loose cannon. + +It occurs to me that Ed is the "bait"..you're _supposed to pay attention to him +and his claims, while the "pea" is slipped under another shell while you're not +looking. It's evident to me the object here is diversion and perhaps the +disinformation that is perpetrated by Ed's outlandish "claims". + +An interesting connection is when I talked to Dr. Steven Greer last June at +Gulf Breeze, he spoke about how Ed Dames had shown him some remote viewing +techniques. It appeared to me at the time that Dames and Greer are on good +terms with each other and Greer spoke most favorably about him. + +The military group comprises, insofar as I've been able to tell, Dale Graff, +Hal Putoff,Kit Green, Bob Collins (Aviary name-FALCON) who got their careers +boosted while working at the Foreign Technology Division (FTD) at Wright- +Patterson. Dale Graff appears highly connected with Area 51, and through phone +contacts, claim is that Ed Dames remote viewed an abduction event of Dale +Graff. It appears that some "black magic" (possibly OTO/Scientology) +connections exist with Graff. An interesting connection appears with Ron +Pandolphi's relative who is in charge of a Scientology Org in California (I +think Los Angeles, if memory serves). + +The key datum is the _Scientology connection because it was through this that +Ingo Swann was associated with and who was later to be Ed Dames mentor. Add +Putoff's SRI association and Los Alamos 'alien-brain wave' research and you +have ALL the ripe ingredients for field-tested mind control techniques at hand. + +At this juncture, my own advice is to dig up as much on Wackenhut as can be +done as to their motives. The Birds of the Aviary appear to be deeply nested +within it's structure, complete with involvement of the working groups. + +A disturbing aspect that has surfaced in phone contacts is that (apparently) +Robert Byrd, who heads up the Senate Select Intelligence Cmte, which is the +body largely responsible for Black Project oversight, monies being disbursed, +being kept apprised as to Project status, etc; his Chief of Staff, Dick DeMato +has been trying to get to the bottom of things and has been talking to +Pandolphi, Dale Graff, Laurence Rockefeller and my perception is that he's +being given the royal run-around. The concern is that some of these projects +are 'out-of-control', especially the 'Psychotronic' types. Further, I +understand that Dale Graff is alledged to be briefing Byrd directly and there's +some "competition" between Pandolphi and Graff in that respect. I understand a +cursory briefing did take place with Clinton at the end of April, but it's +unknown as of yet as to the status of that meeting to bring Clinton 'up to +speed' on what's going on at some of these black ops. My perception is that +Clinton _isn't_ in full knowledge of some of these ops. DeMato attempted a +tour/inspection on behalf of Byrd of Area 51, but his plane had to turn back +due to a bad storm so he hasn't been there yet. What's -disturbing- is that the +"working groups" are briefing Clinton & Byrd, and my definite impression is +that this is like letting the fox tell you "what hens?". + +My own feeling in the matter is that Sen. Robert Byrd isn't being given the +'full story' and that the Aviary members in the shadows have their own agenda, +and moreover, don't appear to be accountable to the public. Frankly, when the +"Oversight Cmte" doesn't appear to have a _clue_ as to what's "really going on" +at places like Area 51, it doesn't bode well for "who's really in charge". + +It should make everyone sit up and take notice on this echo the actions and +involvements of Wackenhut and the connections of Dale Graff and Ron Pandolphi. +It's my considered opinion that if there be "dark forces", then in my mind, +Pandolphi and Graff fit the bill. I also suspect rather heavily, that if +pursued, I have no doubt as to finding Black Magic/New Age agenda lurking just +beneath the surface. + +Don + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2949.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2949.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9ed54e22 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2949.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@ +SUBJECT: WACKEN NAZI'S FILE: UFO2949 + + + + + +(5085) Wed 9 Jun 93 6:23 +By: Steve Jones +To: All +Re: WackenNAZI's +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +Greetings to All- + There has been alot said about the Wackenhut Security forces that are used +to guard such highly secure facilities as the Nevada Test Site, and I would +like to take some time to clarify the reasons for some of the often out-spoken +comments on these people. I would like to also clearly differentiate these +people philosophically from the thousands of dedicated Americans who have +fought for and or have lost their lives to protect the Freedoms that we as +Americans take so much for granted. + Soldiers, whether they are fighting in officially sanctioned conflicts, +covert operations directed by duly authorized governing bodies (be it +Congress, the office of the President, the United Nations, or the multitude of +other majority recognized governing authorities), humanitarian operations, +privatized security operations, or philosophically motivated private covert +operations, are driven, for the most part by their own morals, ethics and +motives. Even in extreme situations, i.e., a single mercentary who is on a +mission by directive, has his own sense of ethics (which at times differs +dramatically from those of the society at large). The key question regarding +the utilization Wackenhut Security, versus the Marines for example, or better +yet a Multi-Departmental Officially Sanctioned Force, is this issue of +philosophical underpinnings. I, for one, consider it to be highly dangerous +to the sanctity of this Union to utilize a private security force that does not +represent a cross-section of philosophical beliefs in this country. It is +this factor that adds to the strength of the moral fabric of the traditional +military that this country has had throughout it's history. + Many people site the historical example of the armies of the National +Socialists during and preceeding World War II. There was a whole lot of +difference in those days dealing with troops of say a Panzer Division (who +were alot like those of our armour divisions) than dealing with the Death's +Head SS, who were Hitler's zealots. + The key question here is why have thes jobs been given to private security +forces in the first place. To me the answer lies in who is actually in +control of these facilities, the government or certain factions in the private +sector. This gives rise to some very serious ethical and moral questions of +the missions involved and that, I feel, is the reason for the outcry so often +heard here. + + Sincerely- Steve Jones + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2950.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2950.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4c1f31f5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2950.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,729 @@ +SUBJECT: WACKEN SPY FILE: UFO2950 + + + + + +Sun 6 Jun 93 21:37 +By: Don Allen +To: All +Re: WackenSPY +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +I scanned this in from the Sept 1992 edition of SPY magazine article +on Wackenhut. This will go a long way into explaining "Who is +Wackenhut +and what are they up to?" Not mentioned in this article is the +fact that +Wackenhut is also in charge of security at Area-51, the place where +UFO activity has often been sighted. + +It's being posted for informational purposes only. + +--------------------------------------------------------------------- +------ + +INSIDE THE SHADOW CIA + +by + +John Connolly + +SPY Magazine - Sept 1992 - Volume 6 + +===================================================================== +======= + +What? A big private company - one with a board of former CIA, FBI and +Pentagon officials; one in charge of protecting Nuclear-Weapons +facilities, +nuclear reactors, the Alaskan oil pipeline and more than a dozen +American +embassies abroad; one with long-standing ties to a radical ring-wing +organization; one with 30,000 men and women under arms - secretly +helped +IRAQ in its effort to obtain sophisticated weapons? And fueled unrest +in Venezuela? This is all the plot of a new best-selling thriller, +right? Or the ravings of some overheated conspiracy buff,right? +Right? + +WRONG. + +-- + +In the WINTER OF 1990, David Ramirez, a 24 year-old member of the +Special +Investigations Division of the Wackenhut Corporation, was sent by +his +superiors on an unusual mission. Ramirez a former Marine Corps +sergeant +based in Miami, was told to fly immediately to San Antonio along +with three +other members of SID-a unit, known as founder and chairman George +Wackenhut's "private FBI," that provided executive protection and +conducted +undercover investigations and sting operations. Once they arrived, +they +rented two gray Ford Tauruses and drove four hours to a desolate +town on the +Mexican border called Eagle Pass. There, just after dark, they met +two truck +drivers who had been flown in from Houston. Inside a nearby +warehouse was an +18 -wheel tractor-trailer, which the two truck drivers and the four +Wackenhut agents in their rented cars were supposed to transport to +Chicago. +"My instructions were very clear," Ramirez recalls. "Do not look +into the +trailer, secure it, and make sure it safely gets to Chicago." It went +without saying that no one else was supposed to look in the +trailer, either, +which is why the Wackenhut men were armed with fully loaded +Remington 870 +pump-action shotguns. + +The convoy drove for 30 hours straight, stopping only for gas and +food. Even +then, one of the Wackenhut agents had to stay with the truck, +standing by +one of the cars, its trunk open, shotgun within easy reach. +"Whenever we +stopped, I bought a shot glass with the name of the town on it," +Ramirez +recalls. "I have glasses from Oklahoma City, Kansas City, St. Louis." + +A little before 5:00 on the morning of the third day, they +delivered the +trailer to a practically empty warehouse outside Chicago. A burly +man who +had been waiting for them on the loading dock told them to take off +the +locks and go home, and that was that. They were on a plane back to +Miami +that afternoon. Later Ramirez's superiors told him-as they told +other SID +agents about similar midnight runs-that the trucks contained $40 +million +worth of food stamps. After considering the secrecy, the way the +team was +assembled and the orders not to stop or open the truck, Ramirez +decided he +didn't believe that explanation. + +Neither do we. One reason is simple: A Department of Agriculture +official +simply denies that food stamps are shipped that way. "Someone is +blowing +smoke," he says. Another reason is that after a six-month +investigation, in +the course of which we spoke to more than 300 people, we believe we +know +what the truck did contain-equipment necessary for the manufacture of +chemical weapons-and where it was headed: to Saddam Hussein's Iraq. +And the +Wackenhut Corporation-a publicly traded company with strong ties to +the CIA +and federal contracts worth $200 million a year-was making sure +Saddam would +be geting his equipment intact. The question is why. In 1954, George +Wackenhut, then a 34-year old former FBI agent, joined up with +three other +former FBI agents to open a company in Miami called Special Agent +Investigators Inc. The partnership was neither successful nor +harmonious-George once knocked partner Ed Dubois unconscious to end a +disagreement over the direction the company would take-and in 1958, +George +bought out his partners. + +However capable Wackenhut's detectives may have been at their work, +George +Wackenhut had two personal attributes that were instrumental in the +company's growth. First, he got along exceptionally well with +important +politicians. He was a close ally of Florida governor Claude Kirk, +who hired +him to combat organized crime in the state; and was also friends with +Senator George Smathers, an intimate of John F. Kennedy's. It was +Smathers +who provided Wackenhut with his big break when the senator's law +firm helped +the company find a loophole in the Pinkerton law, the 1893 federal +statute +that had made it a crime for an employee of a private detective +agency to do +work for the government. Smathers's firm set up a wholly owned +subsidiary of +Wackenhut that provided only guards, not detectives. Shortly +thereafter, +Wackenhut received multimillion-dollar contracts from the +government to +guard Cape Canaveral and the Nevada nuclear-bomb test site, the +first of +many extremely lucrative federal contracts that have sustained the +company +to this day. + +The second thing that helped make George Wackenhut successful was +that he +was, and is, a hard-line right-winger. He was able to profit from his +beliefs by building up dossiers on Americans suspected of being +Communists +or merely left-leaning-"subversives and sympathizers," as he put +it-and +selling the information to interested parties. According to Frank +Donner, +the author of "Age of Surveillance", the Wackenhut Corporation +maintained +and updated its files even after the McCarthyite hysteria had +ebbed, adding +the names of antiwar protesters and civil-rights demonstrators to +its list +of "derogatory types." By 1965, Wackenhut was boasting to potential +investors that the company maintained files on 2.5 million suspected +dissidents-one in 46 American adults then living. in 1966, after +acquiring +the private files of Karl Barslaag; a former staff member of the +House +Committee on Un-American Activities, Wackenhut could confidently +maintain +that with more than 4 million names, it had the largest privately +held file +on suspected dissidents in America. In 1975, after Congress +investigated +companies that had private files, Wackenhut gave its files to the +now-defunct anti-Communist Church League of America of Wheaton, +Illinois. +That organization had worked closely with the red squads of +big-city police +departments, particularly in New York and L.A., spying on suspected +sympathizers; George Wackenhut was personal friends with the League's +leaders, and was a major contributor to the group. To be sure, +after giving +the League its files, Wackenhut reserved the right to use them for +its +clients and friends. + +Wackenhut had gone public in 1965 ; George Wackenhut retained 54 +percent of +the company. Between his salary and dividends, his annual +compensation +approaches $2 million a year, sufficient for him to live in a $20 +million +castle in Coral Gables, Florida, complete with a moat and 18 +full-time +servants. Today the company is the third-largest investigative +security firm +in the country, with offices throughout the United States and in 39 +foreign +countries. + +It is not possible to overstate the special relationship Wackenhut +enjoys +with the federal government. It is close. When it comes to security +matters, Wackenhut in many respects *is* the government. In 1991, a +third of +the company's $600- million in revenues came from the federal +government, +and another large chunk from companies that themselves work for the +government, such as Westinghouse. + +Wackenhut is the largest single company supplying security to U.S. +embassies +overseas; several of the 13 embassies it guards have been in +important +hotbeds of espionage, such as Chile, Greece and El Salvador. It +also guards +nearly all the most strategic government facilities in the U.S., +including +the Alaskan oil pipeline, the Hanford nuclear-waste facility, the +Savannah +River plutonium plant and the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. + +Wackenhut maintains an especially close relationship with the federal +government in other ways as well. While early boards of directors +included +such prominent personalities of the political right as Captain Eddie +Rickenbacker; General Mark Clark and Ralph E. Davis, a John Birch +Society +leader, current and recent members of the board have included much +of the +country's recent national-security directorate: former FBI director +Clarence +Kelley; former Defense secretary and former CIA deputy director Frank +Carlucci: former Defense Intelligence Agent director General Joseph +Carroll; +former U.S. Secret Service director James J. Rowley; former Marine +commandant P. X. Kelley; and acting chairman of President Bush's +foreign- +intelligence advisory board and former CIA deputy director Admiral +Bobby Ray +Inman. Before his appointment as Reagan's CIA director, the late +William +Casey was Wackenhut's outside legal counsel. The company has 30,000 +armed +employees on its payroll. + +We wanted to know more about this special relationship; but the +government +was not forthcoming. Repeated requests to the Department of Energy +for an +explanation of how one company got the security contracts for +neariy all of +America's most strategic installations have gone unanswered. + +Similarly, efforts to get the State Department to explain whether +embassy +contracts were awarded arbitrarily or through competitive bidding +were +fruitless; essentially, the State Department said, "Some of both. " +Wackenhut's competitors-who, understandably, asked not to be quoted +by +name-have their own version. "All those contracts;" said one +security-firm +executive, "are just another way to pay Wackenhut for their +clandestine +help. And what is the nature of that help? "It is known throughout +the +industry," said retired FBI special agent William Hinshaw, "that if +you want +a dirty job done, call Wackenhut." We met George Wackenhut in his +swanky, +muy macho offices in Coral Gables. The rooms are paneled in a dark, +rich +rosewood, accented with gray-blue stone. The main office is +dominated by +Wackenhut's 12-foot-long desk and a pair of chairs shaped like +elephants- +"Republican chairs," he calls them-complete with real tusks, which, +the old +man says with some amusement, tend to stick his visitors. The +highlight of +the usual collection of pictures and awards is the Republican +presidential +exhibit: an autographed photo of Wackenhut shaking hands with +George Bush +(whom Wackenhut, according to a former associate, used to call +"that pinko") +as well as framed photos of Presidents Reagan, Nixon and Bush, each +accompanied by a handwritten note. The chairman looks every inch the +comfortable Florida septuagenarian. The day we spoke, his clothing +ranged +across the color spectrum from baby blue to light baby blue, and he +wore a +iot of jewelry-a huge gold watch on a thick gold band, two massive +goid +rings. But Wackenhut was, at 72, quick and tough in his responses. +Near the +end of our two-and-a-half hour interview, when asked if his company +was an +arm of the CIA, he snapped, "No!" + +Of course, this may just be a matter of semantics. We have spoken to +numerous experts, including current and former CIA agents and +analysts, +current and former agents of the Drug Enforcement Administration +and current +and former Wackenhut executives and employees, all of whom have +said that in +the mid-197O's, atter the Senate Intelligence Committee's +revelations of the +CIA's covert and sometimes illegal overseas operations, the agency +and +Wackenhut grew very, very close. Those revelations had forced the +CIA to do +a housecleaning, and it became CIA policy that certain kinds of +activities +would no longer officially be performed. But that didn't always +mean that +the need or the desire to undertake such operations disappeared. +And that's +where Wackenhut came in. + +Our sources confirm that Wackenhut has had a long- standing +relationship +with the CIA, and that it has deepened over the last decade or so. +Bruce +Berckmans, who was assigned to the CIA station in Mexico City, left +the +agency in January 1975 (putatively) to become a Wackenhut +international-operations vice president. Berckmans, who left +Wackenhut in +1981, told SPY that he has seen a formal proposal George Wackenhut +submitted +to the CIA to allow the agency to use Wackenhut offices throughout +the world +as fronts for CIA activities. Kichard Babayan, who says he was a CIA +contract employee and is currently in jail awaiting trial on fraud +and +racketeering charges, has been cooperating with federal and +congressional +investigators looking into illegal shipments of +nuclear-and-chemical-weapons- making supplies to Iraq. "Wackenhut +has been +used by the CIA and other intelligence agencies for years," he told +SPY. +"When they [the CIA] need cover, Wackenhut is there to provide it +for them." +Canadian prime minister Pierre Trudeau was said to have rebuffed +Wackenhut's +effort in the 1980's to purchase a weapons propellant manufacturer +in Quebec +with the remark "We just got rid of the CIA-we don't want them back." +Phillip Agee, the left-wing former CIA agent who wrote an expose' +of the +agency in 1975, told us, "I don't have the slightest doubt that the +CIA and +Wackenhut overlap." + +There is also testimony from people who are not convicts, renegades +or +Canadians. William Corbett, a terrorism expert who spent 18 years +as a CIA +analyst and is now an ABC News consultant based in Europe, +confirmed the +relationship between Wackenhut and the agency. "For years Wackenhut +has been +involved with the CIA and other intelligence organizations, +including the +DEA," he told SPY. "Wackenhut would allow the CIA to occupy +positions within +the company [in order to carry out] clandestine operations." He +also said +that Wackenhut would supply intelligence agencies with information, +and that +it was compensated for this- "in a quid pro quo arrangement," Corbett +says-with government contracts worth billions of dollars over the +years. + +We have uncovered considerable evidence that Wackenhut carried the +CIA's +water in fighting Communist encroachment in Central America in the +1980s +(that is to say, during the Reagan administration when the CIA +director was +former Wackenhut lawyer William Casey, the late superpatriot who +had a +proclivity for extralegal and illegal anti-Communist covert +operations such +as Iran-contra). In 1981, Berckmans, the CIA agent turned Wackenhut +vice +president, joined with other senior Wackenhut executives to form the +company's Special Projects Division. It was this division that +linked up +with ex-CIA man John Phillip Nichols, who had taken over the +Cabazon Indian +reservation in California, as we described in a previous article +["Badlands," April 1992], in pursuit of a scheme to manufacture +explosives, +poison gas and biological weapons-and then, by virtue of the +tribe's status +as a sovereign nation, to export the weapons to the contras. This +maneuver +was designed to evade congressional prohibitions against the U.S. +government's helping the contras. Indeed, in an interview with SPY, +Eden +Pastora, the contras' famous Commander Zero, who had been spotted +at a test +of some night-vision goggles at a firing range near the Cabazon +reservation +in the company of Nichols and a Wackenhut executive, offhandedly +identified +that executive, A. Robert Frye, as "the man from the CIA. " (In a +subsequent +conversation he denied knowing Frye at all; of course, in that same +talk he +quite unbelievably denied having ever been a contra.) + +In addition to attempted weapons supply, Wackenhut seems to have +been +involved in Central America in other ways. Ernesto Bermudez who was +Wackenhut's director of international operations from 1987 to '89, +admitted +to SPY that during 1985 and '86 he ran Wackenhut's operations in El +Salvador, where he was in charge of 1,500 men. When asked what 1 +,500 men +were doing for Wackenhut in El Salvador, Bermudez replied coyly, +"Things." +Pressed, he elaborated: "Things you wouldn't want your mother to +know about." +It's worth noting that Wackenhut's annual revenues from government +contracts--the alleged reward for cooperation in the government's +clandestine activities-increased by 150 million, a 45 percent jump, +while +Ronald Reagan was in office. "You've done an awful lot of research, +George +Wackenhut said to me as I was leaving. "How would you like to run +all our +New York operations ? " + +If that was the extent of Wackenhut's possible involvement in a +government +agency's attempt to circumvent the law, then we might dismiss it as +an +interesting footnote to the overheated, cowboy anti- Communist 1980s. +However, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida has +been +conducting an investigation into the illegal export of dual-use +technology-that is, seemingly innocuous technology that can also be +used to +make nuclear weapons to Iraq and Libya. And SPY has learned that +Wackenhut's name has come up in the federal investigation, but not at +present as a target. + +Between 1987 and '89, three companies in the United States received +investments from an Iraqi architect named Ihsan Barbouti. The +colorful +Barbouti owned an engineering company in Frankfort that had a $552 +million +contract to build airfields in Iraq. He also admitted having designed +Mu'ammar Qaddafi's infamous German-built chemical-weapons plant in +Rabta, +Libya. According to an attorney for one of the companies in which +Barbouti +invested, the architect owned $100 million worth of real estate and +oil-drilling equipment in Texas and Oklahoma. He may also be dead, +there +being reports that he died of heart failure in Hospital in London +on July 1, +1990, his 63rd birthday. Barbouti, however, had faked his death +once before, +in 1969, after the Ba'ath takeover in Iraq which brought Saddam +Hussein to +power as the second-in-command. That time, Barbouti escaped Iraq; +resurfacing several years later in Lebanon and Libya. There are no +reports +that he is living in Jordan -or, according to other reports, in a +CIA safe +house in Florida. Those reports can be considered no better than +rumor; what +follows, though, is fact. + +As reported on ABC's "Nightline" last year, the three companies in +which +Barbouti invested were TK-7 of Oklahoma City, which makes a fuel +additive; +Pipeline Recovery Systems of Dallas, which makes an anti-corrosive +chemical +that preserves pipes; and Product Ingredient Technoiogy of Boca +Raton, which +makes food flavorings. None of these companies was looking to do +business +with Iraq; Barbouti sought them out. Why was he interested? Because +TK-7 had +formulas that could extend the range of jet aircraft and +liquid-fueled +missiles such as the SCUD; because Pipeline Recovery knows how to +coat pipes +to make them usable in nuclear reactors and chemical-weapons +plants; and +because one of the by-products in making cherry flavoring is ferric +ferrocyanide, a chemical that's used to manufacture hydrogen +cyanide, which +can penetrate gas masks and protective clothing. Hydrogen cyanide +was used +by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds in the Iran-Iraq war. + +Barbouti was more than a passive investor, and soon he began +pressuring the +companies to ship not only their products but also their +manufacturing +technology to corporations he owned in Europe, on which, he told the +businessmen, it would be sent to Libya and Iraq. In doing so, +Barbouti was +attempting to violate the law. First, the U.S. forbade sending +anything to +Libya, which was embargoed as a terrorist nation. Second, the U.S. +specified +that material of this sort must be sent to its final destination, +not to an +intermediate locale, where the U.S. would risk losing control of its +distribution. According to former CIA contract employee Richard +Babayan, in +late 1989 Barbouti met in London with Ibrahim Sabawai, Saddam +Hussein's half +brother and European head of Iraqi intelligence, who grew excited +about the +work Pipeline Recovery was doing and called for the company's +technology to +be rushed to Iraq, so that it could be in place by early 1990. And +the owner +of TK-7 swears that Barbouti told him he was developing an atom +device for +Qaddafi that would be used against the U.S. in retaliation for the +1986 U.S. +air strike against Libya. Barbouri also wanted the ferrocyanide +from Product +Ingredient. + +Assisting Barbouti with these investments was New Orleans exporter +Don +Seaton, business associate of Richard Secord, the right-wing U.S. +Army +general turned war profiteer who was so deeply enmeshed in the +Iran-contra +affair. It was Secord who connected Barbouti with Wackenhut. +Barbouti met +with Secord in Florida on several occasions, and phone records show +that +several calls were placed from Barbouti's office to Secord's +private number +in McLean, Virginia; Secord has acknowledged knowing Barbouti. He is +currently a partner of Washington businessman James Tully (who is +the man +who leaked Bill Clinton's draft-dodge letter to ABC) and Jack +Brennan, a +former Marine Corps colonel and longtime aide to Richard Nixon both +in the +White House and in exile. Brennan has gone back to the White House, +where he +works as a director of administrative operations in President +Bush's office. +He refused to return repeated calls from SPY. Interestingly, +Brennan and +Tully had previously been involved in a $181 million business deal +to supply +uniforms to the Iraqi army. Oddly, they arranged to have the uniforms +manufactured in Nicolae Ceaucescu's Romania. The partners in that +deal were +former U.S. attorney general and Watergate felon John Mitchell and +Sarkis +Soghanalian, a Turkish-born Lebanese citizen. Soghanalian, who has +been +credited with being Saddam Hussein's leading arms procurer and with +introducing the demonic weapons inventor Gerald Bull to the Iraqis, +is +currently serving a six-year sentence in federal prison in Miami +for the +illegal sale of 103 military helicopters to Iraq. According to former +Wackenhut agent David Ramirez, the company considered Soghanalian +"a very +valuable client." + +Unfortunately for Barbouti, none of the companies in which he made +investments was willing to ship its products or technology to his +European +divisions. That, however, doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't +get some +of what he wanted. In 1990, 2,000 gallons of ferrocyanide were +found to be +missing from the cherry-flavor factory in Boca Raton. Where it went +is a +mystery; Peter Kawaja, who was the head of security for all of +Barbouti's +U.S. investments, told SPY, "We were never burglarized, but that +stuff didn't +walk out by itself." + +What does all this have to do with Wackenhut? Lots: According to +Louis +Champon, the owner of Product Ingredient Technology, it was +Wackenhut that +guarded his Boca Raton plant, a fact confirmed by Murray Levine, a +Wackenhut +vice president. Champon also says, and Wackenhut also confirms, +that the +security for the plant consisted of one unarmed guard. While a +Wackenhut +spokesperson maintains that this was the only job they were doing for +Barbouti, he also says that they were never paid, that Barbouti +stiffed +them. + +This does not seem true. SPY has obtained four checks from Barbouti +to +Wackenhut. All were written within ten days in 1990: one on March +27 for +$168.89; one on March 28 for $24,828.07; another on April 5 for +$756; the +last on April 6 for $40,116.25. We asked Richard Kneip, Wackenhut's +senior +vice president for corporate planning, to explain why a single +guard was +worth $66,000 a year; Kneip was at a loss to do so. He was +similarly at a +loss to explain a fifth check, from another Barbouti company to +Wackenhut's +travel-service division in 1987, almost two years before Wackenhut +has +acknowledged providing security for the Boca Raton plant . + +Two former CIA operatives, separately interviewed, have the +explanation. +Charles Hayes, who describes himself as "a CIA asset " says +Wackenhut was +helping Barbouti ship chemicals to Iraq, "Supplying Iraq was +originally a +good idea," he maintains, "but then it got out of hand. Wackenhut +was just +in it for the money." Richard Babayan the former CIA contract +employee, +confirmed Hayes's account. He says that Wackenhut's relationship with +Barbouti existed before the Boca Raton plant opened: "Barbouti was +placed in +the hands of Secord by the CIA, and Secord called in Wackenhut to +handle +security and travel and protection for Barbouti and his export +plans." +Wackenhut, Babayan says was working for the CIA in helping Barbouti +ship the +chemical- and-nuclear-weapons-making equipment first to Texas, then +to +Chicago, and then to Baltimore to be shipped overseas. All of which +makes +the story of the midnight convoy ride of David Ramirez, recounted +at the +beginning of this article rather less mysterious. SPY has learned +that this +shipment is now the subject of a joint USDA- Customs investigation. + +When we asked George Wackenhut what was being shipped from Eagle +Pass to +Chicago, the sharp, straightforward chairman at first claimed they +were +protecting an unnamed executive. He then directed an aide to get +back to me. +Two days later, Richard Kneip did, repeating the tale that had been +passed +on to David Ramirez-that the trucks contained food stamps. We told +him that +we had spoken to a Department of Agriculture official, who informed +us that +food stamps are shipped from Chicago to outlying areas, never the +other way +around, and that food stamps, unlike money, are used once and then +destroyed. All Kneip would say then was, "We do not reveal the +names of our +clients." + +Wackenhut's connection to the CIA and to other government agencies +raises +several troubling questions: + +First, is the CIA using Wackenhut to conduct operations that it has +been +forbidden to undertake? Second, is the White House or some other +party in +the executive branch working through Wackenhut to conduct +operations that it +doesn't want Congress to know about? Third, has Wackenhut's cozy +relationship with the government given it a feeling of security-or +worse, an +outright knowledge of sensitive or embarrassing information-that +allows the +company to believe that it can conduct itself as though it were +above the +law? A congressional investigation into Wackenhut's activities in the +Alyeska affair last November began to shed some light on +Wackenhut's way of +doing business; clearly it's time for Congress to investigate just +how far +Wackenhut's other tentacles extend. + +Additional reporting by Erzc Reguly, Margie Sloan and Wendell Smith + +** End of article ** + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2951.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2951.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8bd4401b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2951.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: UFOBASE SIGHTING REPORT FILE: UFO2951 + + + + + * Forwarded from "SKYWATCH" + * Originally by Odyssey UFObase + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 31 Jan 1993, 23:15 + + ________________ + /UFOBASE 4.0 (c) \ +ÚÄÄÄ/ Sighting \ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ Announcement ³ +³ ------------ ³ +³ UFO Shape: SAUCER ³ +³ Date Sighted: 01/18/93 ³ +³ City/County : CULLMAN ³ +³ State : AL ³ +³ Time : 11:15 ³ +³ Hynek Classification : ROUND ³ +³ Witnesses : JON TUCKERMAN ³ +³ Sound : NONE ³ +³ Duration : 45 MIN. ³ +³ Comments : ³ +³ I HAND JUST GOTTEN OFF A BBS AND LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW. ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2952.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2952.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..56c71b42 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2952.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ + +SUBJECT: LATEST UFO SIGHTING, STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH! FILE: UFO2952 + + + +**** Posted on 1/26/93 + +All, + +Latest UFO sighting, straight from the horses mouth! + +Monday, January 25th, at approximately 10:30 pm, South East of St. Louis +Missouri, approximately 10 to 12 UFOs were spotted doing various acrobatic +Maneuvers. The entire incident lasted approximately 30 minutes, with 4 +families that I know of having witnessed the event, with a total of 7 adults +(parents) and 11 children. + +At one time 5 of the UFOs seemed to form what appeared to be a crude +'circle', then slowly came together until they seemed to 'merge' into one. +(undoubtedly because of the distance involved.) They remain 'merged' as +one for approximately 5 minutes, the whole time doing amazing aerial +acrobatics, until they 'split' and became the original 5. + +During the course of the event, 4 or 5 of the UFOs were seen 'zipping' from +left to right and up and down, almost as if skipping. Another 4 or 5 were +seen doing the same thing, but evidently in the opposite direction. The +remaining ones, approximately 3 to 4, where seen going up and down and doing +circles. I will attempt, below, to show what was described to me. + +\ /---\ /---o \ | / o---\ /---\ /--- + \ / \ / \|/ \ / \ / + \/ \/ o \/ \/ + +(That's about the best I can do, hope you get the picture. The 'o' +represent the UFOs, about 4 to 5 for each 'o'. To clarify this diagram the +UFOs on the left were ween flying from left to right and back again, bobbing +up and down, and sometimes flying in a straight line, the same with the UFOs +on the right. As for the UFOs in the center, then would go straight up and +down, or sometimes at an angle. When the UFOs finally departed, the ones on +the left went left, the ones on the right went right and the ones in the +center shot straight up.) + +One of the witnesses did take pictures, which are being developed today. I +will see them this evening and will report on what they show, if anything. + +As for a description of the objects themselves, they were described as being +about the size of dime, with 2 or 3 of the objects being obscured by a kind +of haze which seemed to follow only those 2 or 3 objects. There did not +appear to be any flashing lights, but approximately half the objects were +two colors, red and yellow, that did not flash but seemed to 'pulsate'. The +other objects were a dull 'whitish' color, almost an off-white. + +Note that one of the witnesses is a old acquaintance of mine who knows +something of astronomy. She noted (no jokes!) that she could see Jupiter +and Mars in the night sky, so they were not that. She also noted seeing at +least 2 shooting stars flash by, both to the east of the sighting. + +Also note that one of the witnesses is a private pilot, whom I do not know +very well, but said to me, straight out, that they were not planes, they +were not navigational lights. + +Approximately 15 to 20 minutes into the sighting, at least 4 helicopters, +type unknown, were heard and see flying just to the south of the witnesses +location. The helicopters appeared to be flying straight towards the +objects, and the navigational lights on the choppers could be seen for quite +some distance, until they finally disappeared, yet the UFOs remained. + +Also note, that given the location of the witnesses (the burbs of St. Louis) +and the direction from them of the UFOs (southeast) that Lambert +International Airport (St. Louis's airport) would lie north of the sighting. +(I have placed a phone call to Lambert this morning, but did not receive any +information, I will attempt to do so again later this afternoon.) Also note +that Scott Air Force Base would lie almost due east of the sighting. (I +have been able to contact them, and they say that nothing was on radar, and +that they saw nothing. They did acknowledge the helicopters which they said +were being 'ferried' in from Columbia.) + +So far that's about it. As details develop I'll post them, if your +interested! (Naturally I missed the whole damn thing! My friend tried to +call me, but naturally I was not at home. Always my luck!) + +David + + + **** UPDATE **** + +**** Posted on 01/28/93 + +All, + +This is an update to the message I had put out earlier about the UFOs being +spotted here in St Louis this past weekend. I have been in contact with +both Scott Air Force Base, which is in Illinois, but is the closest base +here, and to Lambert International Airport. Both report nothing being on +their radar at the time except for the helicopters, which Scott said were +simply being ferried in. + +I also had the chance last night to view the pictures that were taken of the +even, but I must say I was disappointed, though it was not unexpected. The +pictures, 6 of them, don't really show anything that one can make out. +Considering the distance, and the cheap 35 mm being used it was not complete +unexpected, but still disappointing. Oh well, so much for 'evidence'. + +I am trying to get in touch with the MUFON state director here in Missouri +to see if I can get any info from them, but so far no dice. As further info +becomes available I will post it here for your purusal. + +David + +P.S. I have also check 3 other smaller airports that are in the general +vicinity of the sighting, but no reports having anything on their radar. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2953.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2953.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..050686c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2953.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,190 @@ +SUBJECT: DENVER UFO REPORT FILE: UFO2953 + + + + + To: All Message #: 2467 + From: William Early Submitted: 29 Jan 93 +Subject: Denver UFO Report Status: Public +Received: No Group: INFO.PARANET +(1) + +MSGID: 1:104/422 5107d0ae + + + Sighting Report 1/27/93 + +Date: The date of the incident was January 24th, 1993. The first +reports came in to the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office (9-1-1) +at 19:38 hours (7:38 PM). Two Sheriff's deputies were dispatched +to the area to meet with the first man reporting unusual lights +hanging in the sky at 19:39 hours (7:39 PM) to investigate. + +Location: The area of the Ken Caryl Ranch [located South-West of +the Denver, Colorado metro area] - [centered over the top of the +mountain that is the apparent center of the Ken Caryl West +Ranch]. The primary object (large white intense light) was +estimated to have hovered about 800 to 1000 feet above ground +level. The five small objects (yellow lights) that were also +observed at the same time were located approximately 100 feet +above the ground, below and to the left of the large white +object. + +What occurred: The first reports occurred at 19:38 hours when the +public (twelve individuals) reported to the Sheriff's office that +they were seeing "strange lights illuminating their houses". One +person also reported that "someone was causing his +electra/mechanical garage door to keep opening and closing" and +[sic] that his "house was being light up by a bright light from +somewhere" [sic] an unknown source. A woman called for help from +law enforcement officers stating that "someone was shining a +bright light in her windows, and she was scared". A third car in +the area was dispatched. + +The first car in the area arrived only a couple of minutes after +the initial call to police. Officer M.S. (93012401.01) was first +observed the primary light from I-470 and Ken Caryl road. This is +approximately 3 miles from the later sightings. He was ordered to +meet with one of the public witnesses at that location. The +witness was not there, because he had not returned yet from his +home where he went to make the call to law enforcement +authorities. Officer M.S. (93012401.01) decided to continue +into the housing area and investigate the "bright light" that he +was observing. He had to drive West about 1/2 a mile to enter the +area through the "Hog Back" (for information: a geological area +that appears like small mountains with a cut through them for the +roadway). For the minute that it took to traverse that distance, +the bright object was out of his field of view. When he cleared +the area of the roadway cut he again regained visual sighting of +the object. + +The officer proceeded up the road to a better visual vantage +point. He entered the parking lot of the " Bradford Elementary " +school and parked his car. From this position near the base of +the first range of mountains facing West; he and his K-9 partner +exited the police car to better observe the bright object over +the mountain. His dog didn't show any unusual signs as Officer +M.S. observed the object. At this time Officer M.S. estimated +that the "bright white object was about a half mile away" +(West-North-West). The officer stated that he estimated that the +object was about 12 feet in diameter. And that it was about as +bright as looking into a high intensity flood light from close +proximity as compared to star light which is extremely dim by +comparison. {NOTE: One needs to know that this housing area is in +a very small valley that shields light and noise from Denver to +the North-East. When we (the investigative teams) have been in +the area at night: you can hear people on the street talking to +each other in a normal voice from several hundred feet away. +There is virtually no ambient light or noise in the area.} +Officer M.S. stated that during the whole 40+ plus minutes that +he was able to observe any or all of the lights; that there +was no sound associated with the objects. + +Officer M.S. returned to his car and was contacted by other +officers that had also moved into the area and could also see the +lights over the mountains. A police supervisor who could see the +primary object, drove around the mountain to the back (Western) +side of the Ken Caryl West Ranch. It took him about an hour to +work his way to a point where he could again observe the area +above the housing area. Due to the time necessary to get to that +location, he was never able to see the bright white object again. + +Officers engaged in discussion about the objects over the police +radio for about 40 minutes. Jefferson County Sheriff's +dispatchers contacted the Air Traffic Control Tower at Stapleton +Airport. Controllers there said that they could see the object +clearly from the control tower approximately 20 miles distant. +But stated that the object was too low to be observed by radar +due to the "ground clutter" caused by the reflectivity of the +earth surface. They contacted Centennial Airport tower. Personnel +there couldn't see it. Buckley Air Force Base tower (East of +Stapleton Airport) stated that they could see a light, but didn't +know what it was. They denied that any military aircraft were in +the area or working near the area. Norad Air Defense Command in +Colorado Springs was called. Controllers there stated that they +couldn't identify any airborne object above that area. They also +stated that they were unaware of any military aircraft that might +be operation high over the area. {They cannot "see" down close to +the ground there except by looking down by satellite.} + +Commercial aircraft continued to fly an evening landing approach +to Stapleton near to the area without abetment. The tower from +Stapleton asked a couple of the landing aircraft if they had +observed anything flying close to the ground in the area with a +bright light, however they stated that they hadn't seen any +aircraft. + +Officer M.S. changed his position several times, noting that the +primary light had now been joined by 5 small yellow lights that +were very low over the mountain, and to the South of the central +object. He noted that the lights would disappear for a minute or +so just as if someone had turned off a light switch. Then they +would come on again suddenly. + +The atmosphere was clear with a visibility of a hundred miles +that night. No clouds were in the area, high or low. +Officer M.S. had a very clear view during +most of the 40+ plus minutes that he drove around the area or +observed from the side of the road. He stated that there was +never any noise observed during the incident; humming, turbine +sounds, blade sounds that are made by helicopters nor engine +sounds from any engine associated with the incident. All was very +quiet. The only occasional noise was associated with aircraft +that were approaching Stapleton Airport. He further stated that +he didn't see any "beams going down to the ground, or anything +like that". The lights didn't appear to move, flicker, change in +intensity, or maneuver in any erratic fashion. The only unusual +phenomenon observed was that the lights would blink out for a few +seconds; then reappear in about the same place a few seconds +later. This occurred while the officer was outside his patrol +car, within 3/4 of a mile of the light, and not moving. This +effect was observed by all of the officers except the police +supervisor who drove around the mountain to come up on the object +from the back side. + +No ill effects were reported either by the officers involved nor +by the reporting public. + +No physical trace evidence has been found nor is expected to be +found because the objects were not observed actually on the earth +surface. + +Addendum: +January 1993 +Astronomical Overview of 1993 + +Denver Skies astronomical highlights +copyright 1993 Final Copy, Inc. + +***PLANETS*** + +MERCURY +The closest planet to the sun is never easy to see. +However, it will be in the early evening western sky from early +February to early March, from the last week in May to the first +week in July, and from the second week in September through +October. It will be in the pre-dawn eastern sky between mid-March +and the first week of May, the last week in July through the +third week in August, and mid-November through mid-December. + +VENUS +Typically this planet is easy to find because it is so +bright. Look for it in the west after sunset from now through the +end of March. It will be in the eastern morning sky from late +April until early December. + + +Mars +This month the Red Planet is closest to Earth and the +brightest for the next two years. Although January is the best +month to view, Mars is in the evening sky until the last week in +December, though it will be lost in the glow of the setting sun +some weeks before. + +The investigation is continuing. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2954.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2954.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5f83344e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2954.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +SUBJECT: ODYSSEY UFO SIGHTING REPORT FORM 2/11/93 FILE: UFO2954 + + + + + ODYSSEY + UFO SIGHTING REPORT FORM +Date Of Report : 02/15/93 Investigator Name : Jerry Woody_________ +Date Of Sighting : 02/11/93 Time Of Sighting : 11:00 PM____________ +Time Zone : CDT________ Season (If No Date) : ____________________ +Primary Witness In : Yard_______ Weather Conditions : Partly Cloudy_______ +Sighting Location : Back Yard__ Location Features : Branch/Trees________ +# of Witnesses : 2+_________ Sex of Witness : Female______________ +Age of Witness : xx_________ City/State Of Sight : Hartselle, Alabama__ +Balance Of Witness : ___________ Photo Of UFO Taken? : Videotape___________ +Radar Confirmation : no_________ Close Encounter Case: no__________________ +U.F.O. Movement : xx_________ U.F.O. Shape : Nocturnal Light_____ +Number of UFO's : 1__________ Duration of Sighting: Hour________________ +Size of UFO : Large Star_ Sound : none________________ + EFFECTS +Trace? no____ Electrical? no____ Abduction? no____ Missing Time? no____ +Animal Effect? no____ Landing? no____ Entities? no____ Other? _____________ + +Woman reports bright light in West; says did not behave like star +or Venus. VideoTape of object taken by Womans' Grandmother. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2955.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2955.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..bd80e7f2 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2955.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +SUBJECT: ODYSSEY UFO SIGHTING REPORT FORM 2/17/93 FILE: UFO2955 + + + + ODYSSEY + UFO SIGHTING REPORT FORM +Date Of Report : 02/18/93 Investigator Name : Jerry Woody_________ +Date Of Sighting : 02/17/93 Time Of Sighting : 9:00 PM_____________ +Time Zone : CDT________ Season (If No Date) : ____________________ +Primary Witness In : Car________ Weather Conditions : Partly Cloudy_______ +Sighting Location : HighWay____ Location Features : Branch/Trees/road___ +# of Witnesses : 2+_________ Sex of Witness : Male________________ +Age of Witness : xx_________ City/State Of Sight : NorthPort, Alabama__ +Balance Of Witness : ___________ Photo Of UFO Taken? : None________________ +Radar Confirmation : no_________ Close Encounter Case: no__________________ +U.F.O. Movement : xx_________ U.F.O. Shape : Nocturnal Light_____ +Number of UFO's : 1__________ Duration of Sighting: Minutes_____________ +Size of UFO : Large Star_ Sound : none________________ + EFFECTS +Trace? no____ Electrical? no____ Abduction? no____ Missing Time? no____ +Animal Effect? no____ Landing? no____ Entities? no____ Other? _____________ + +Man driving on Highway 43 in Northport in Tuscaloosa County, Al reports +lighted object. Policeman stops and sees the UFO. Tuscaloosa Airport +reports there was no other aircraft nor radar confirmation of any craft +in the area. + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2956.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2956.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f8d7ea99 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2956.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,160 @@ +SUBJECT: CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE NORTH SHORE KIND FILE: UFO2956 + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:47 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +³ ³ +³ (U.F.O.R.I.C.), Dept. 25, 1665 Robson ³ +³ Street, Vancouver, B.C., Canada V6G ³ +³ 3C2. Provided through the courtesy of³ +³ Lorne Goldfader, Director of UFORIC, ³ +³ for The MufoNet-BBS Network. ³ +³ ³ +³ ³ +³ CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE NORTH SHORE KIND ³ +³ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ³ +³ ³ +³ North Shore News - Sunday, February 21, 1993 ³ +³ by Michael Becker ³ +³ ³ +³Nine Encounters in the Past Year Prompt UFO Researchers to ³ +³ Look for Alien Hot Spots ³ +³ ³ +³Local UFO researchers will attempt to make contact with ³ +³alien life forms later this year on the North Shore ³ +³Mountains. ³ +³ ³ +³Said Lorne Goldfader, director of the UFO Research Institute³ +³of Canada (UFORIC), "We intend to go to UFO hot spots with ³ +³very powerful halogen lights, strobe lights and sound ³ +³frequencies, and we're going to try to attract, vector in, ³ +³these spacecraft or objects or whatever they are. ³ +³ ³ +³"We're going to make several attempts, not only us but ³ +³several hundred working groups across the world. ³ +³ ³ +³"We're going to make attempts, and one of us will get ³ +³something. NASA is spending millions of dollars with dishes³ +³to get signals from space. This is really not that much ³ +³different from what NASA is doing but it's Earth-based, " ³ +³Goldfader said. ³ +³ ³ +³Of 56 UFO sighting reports compiled by UFORIC last year, ³ +³nine were based in North and West Vancouver. ³ +³ ³ +³Two of the nine North Shore incidents involved "close ³ +³encounters." ³ +³ ³ +³According to Goldfader, some time between 2:30 a.m. and 3 ³ +³a.m., on August 29, 1992, a police officer living with his ³ +³family in a Blueridge-area neighborhood of North Vancouver ³ +³walked to a window and saw what appeared to be a shooting ³ +³star. ³ +³ ³ +³He went into the bathroom of the house. Through an open ³ +³window he saw reflected in the bathroom mirror three red and³ +³white pulsating cylindrical lights. ³ +³ ³ +³An alarm sensor located in the patio of the house was ³ +³activated. A light illuminating the lane nearby went out. ³ +³ ³ +³He heard one of his dogs outside whining. ³ +³ ³ +³The man attempted to wake his wife. ³ +³ ³ +³Said Goldfader, "He tried to wake up his wife in a panic. ³ +³It took all his effort, and she only woke up for a brief ³ +³moment falling back into sleep like a rag doll." ³ +³ ³ +³Meanwhile, Goldfader added, "The child (nine months old) was³ +³giggling in the other room, another unusual event." ³ +³ ³ +³The man subsequently discovered a scorched area of grass by ³ +³the lane near his home. The dog that had been whining ³ +³outside during the incident lost "massive amounts of fur and³ +³lost much weight, suggesting radiation exposure." ³ +³ ³ +³About a month earlier, on July 19, 1992, a West Vancouver ³ +³mother and son experienced a close encounter of a different ³ +³kind. ³ +³ ³ +³Goldfader said he talked to the 16-year-old West Vancouver ³ +³male after the youth had contacted the police. ³ +³ ³ +³"He and his mother saw an object in the sky, but that's all ³ +³the mother remembers." ³ +³ ³ +³Both mother and child observed a conical object, fluorescent³ +³and opaque. The object zig-zagged at a distance from their ³ +³house. ³ +³ ³ +³"But the young fellow remembers these biological entities ³ +³though the closed door in his bedroom, lift him off the bed ³ +³and he freaked out - he resisted. Then he ran into his ³ +³parent's room, but there was about 15 minutes to half an ³ +³hour of missing time," Goldfader said. ³ +³ ³ +³A second incident at the home involved a circular ball of ³ +³light entering through a window. ³ +³ ³ +³A third incident involved a physical reaction. ³ +³ ³ +³"It's a phenomenon that I'm beginning to recognize. He's ³ +³(the teen) beginning to feel these electrical voltages under³ +³the skin in areas where the surface of the skin feels numb. ³ +³ ³ +³"I have other people where the same thing has happened to ³ +³them. I've identified four people so far who have this ³ +³anomaly," Goldfader said. ³ +³ ³ +³The UFO researcher believes the hydro power lines near the ³ +³home are somehow connected to the bizarre incident. ³ +³ ³ +³I've developed a theory from the data that I've read - the ³ +³electro-magnetic radiation is coming from these power grids ³ +³and is harmful to skin cells. ³ +³ ³ +³"These visitors, whoever they are, are concerned and doing ³ +³some kind of genetic testing of the people in these areas." ³ +³ ³ +³Added Goldfader, "Based on magnetic maps, over a period of ³ +³time I've begun to recognize magnetic anomalies where these ³ +³UFO sightings are taking place. ³ +³ ³ +³"It's speculation, but I feel there is a possibility that a ³ +³magnetic anomaly point could be an entry point for these ³ +³objects to come through. It could be a disturbance caused ³ +³by UFO activity." ³ +³ ³ +³Goldfader's group is affiliated with the Texas-based Centre ³ +³for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence (CSETI). ³ +³ ³ +³He said the two organizations are committed to acting upon ³ +³UFO data compiled. ³ +³ ³ +³"There are several different kinds of UFO groups. They ³ +³range from the bizarre religious people who are trying to ³ +³put their point of view across, to ex-CIA people. We're not³ +³fence-sitters," he said. ³ +³ ³ +³"If there is even a 1% chance that I'm successful or ³ +³somebody else is successful (in the bid for contact) it will³ +³change the course of history, so it's worth it." ³ +³ ³ +³=END= ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Conway +Case Description: + +A couple were driving from their rural home to the town of +Conway, MO, when, at approximately 11:00 AM, the woman saw a +silver disk approaching from the North. + +As the couple watched the object from their car, the disk made a +90 degree turn to the West, stopped abruptly, and hovered for a +few moments, and then accelerated almost instantaneously, +disappearing into the West. + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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The woman +slammed on her brakes to avoid hitting the lights. The red +balls flew up and over the car and disappeared. + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2959.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2959.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ba7750f1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2959.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......APRIL 1992 FILE: UFO2959 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field +Investigators. For case determination, contact the appropriate +MUFON State Director.) + +State:........... Missouri +Date:............ April 01, 1992 +Location:........ Springfield +Case Description: + +A 33-year old Springfield woman was awakened in her bedroom at +1:10 AM to witness a disk-shaped object with red lights around +the bottom rim just outside her window. + +The witness felt herself being pulled toward the window by a +"force." She glanced at her bedside clock and saw that it was +1:10 AM. The next recollection of the witness is that she +awakened with a jolt in her bed and that the time was 3:10 AM. + + + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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A 41-year-old college graduate, his nephew and his +nephew's wife were in his yard in Shreveport about 11:00 a.m. +when the man noticed three bright objects coming from the east, +north and west moving at an astonishing speed towards a spot in +the sky in the south. + +The objects came to a complete stop in the sky and remained at a +standstill for two or three minutes, and then disappeared. + + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2961.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2961.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7efd7a57 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2961.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,631 @@ +SUBJECT: NEW AGE FORUM 24-MAY-92 FILE: UFO2961 + + + + +Wherever I have added comments, to make the text a bit more readable, I +have placed by additions within brackets, i.e. []. + + +*********** New Age Forum 24-May-92 17:52:42 + + Rilla/Sysop: David, do you want to explain the rules? + David/Moderator: Ummm, could you this first time, please? + Rilla/Sysop: Sure...in a formal conference, David will be the + | moderator... + | he will keep track of whose turn it is to speak... + | please dont interrupt the speaker and wait until it is your + | turn... + | when you have a question type "?"... + | David will notice and call on you in turn... + | if you want, you can type "!" for a comment... + | you still will be called on in turn... + | when it is your turn you type your lines followed by elipses... + | until you are finished. Then you type "ga" which indicates + | that you... + | are finished and ready to have an answer. Is this clear for + | everyone? + Tony Alicea: Yes\ + David/Moderator: What's an elipse? + Tony Alicea: ... + Rilla/Sysop: Elipses are a series of ... + | + David/Moderator: ...OK...ga + Rilla/Sysop: ok...then Ray will turn on the buffer and we will begin... + | David> GA + Tony Alicea: ? + David/Moderator: ...OK, Tonight I thought we would start with the movie + | "Intruders"... + | ga Tony + Tony Alicea: You answered the Q. It's about UFO's, The CO? + | ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Yes, we'll start off with Intruders I think... + | Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: I just wanted to say that I thought that it was a very good + | movie on the subject, considering it was on prime time TV... + | I wonder if we will see more and more of this brought into + | mainstream. ga + David/Moderator: It was good indeed, but I'm afraid many people will + | consider it science + | fiction when in reality it is based on true facts from many + | people. I think the biggest + | problem most people have is admitting abduction scenerios + | actually exist...ga + Tony Alicea: ! + David/Moderator: Tony > ga + Tony Alicea: *I* have a problem w/abductions. I have read "Close + | encounters." by the guy + | from Northwestern U., and I find it hard to believe...GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + Rilla/Sysop: ? + David/Moderator: Abductions are a fact of life. Too many people have + | experienced them... + | with very REAL physical marks left over to just deny there + | existence.. + | Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: Many things that are too far outside of the norm people find + + | difficult to believe. Hopkins makes a point in his book about + | the + | difficulty... + | people had after the 2nd world war (even today) or accepting + | the Holocost. This isn't because it wasn't real, but just too + | far + | outside the normal...GA + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: Ok... + | I didnt see the program INTRUDERS... + | but from what I can gather it was basically about abductions... + | two questions... + | Did it SAY plainly that these abductions were based on Fact and + + | cite the ... + | cases? Also...is it going to be a series or was it a one shot + | deal? GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + Tony Alicea: ! + David/Moderator: OK... + | It did cite, at the beginning and end of the movie, that + | the movie based on more than ONE.... + | account, in fact several, and had been put into movie form. It + | was just a one shot deal, from... + | what I can gather. No, it did not cite any specific cases, + | from what I could see... + | Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: Rilla, I would highly suggest reading the book + | 'Intruders'... + | I think most books are better than movies, anyway. Also, the + | book is a nonfictional account of the UFO experiences... + | of several people. The names have been changed to protect + | privacy, but this stuff is real, it has been brought back... + | using hypnotic regression. GA + Rilla/Sysop: ! + David/Moderator: Tony > ga + Tony Alicea: Thanks, + | ... + | I meant to say "The UFO Experience" by J. Allen Hyneck, Tech + | Consultant to... + | the movie Close Encounters of the... + | ... + | WHat about the Mileer case? Hypnotism was used, rigth? ga + David/Moderator: OK... + | Tony, even Hyneck came to belive in the UFO abduction problem. + | He even researched several by himself... + | About the Miller case?, I'm not sure I'm familiar with the one + | your stating,... + | perhaps you could elaborate more. + | Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: Tony, did you want to elaborate first? + Tony Alicea: no,... ga + Rilla/Sysop: ok... + | I just wanted to say that I dont doubt the authenticity of the + | abduction... + | stories. My best friend found out through hypnosis.. + | that her phobias were a result of the fact that SHE is an + | abductee... + | she cant confront the details yet...even in deep hypnosis... + | nor can she read anything about UFO's or Schribers books... + | its really creepy. What DO you think of Schribers books, btw? + | ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Schribers books are indeed excellant, but I worry + | sometimes about his... + | reasons behind the books. He says he was abducted, and yet + | some belive that he is in... + | involved in the conspiracy with the government. For the most + | part I believe what he has to say...Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: Tony, did you want to elaborate further on your idea...GA + Tony Alicea: about the miller case? + | ga + Joe Balsamo: yes ga + David/Moderator: Yes, Tony, if Joe doesn't mind, would you elaborate..ga + Tony Alicea: well give me a few mins... Others GA + David/Moderator: OK, Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: Ok... + | I was just going to say that the Schreiber books are an + | interesting read, but I like a little more methodology to get + | to the heart + | of what is going on... + | I also just wanted to interject on what the impression of the + | general in 'Intruders' was, I thought the movie did a good job + | of + | portraying the military point of view :) ga + David/Moderator: Ok... + Rilla/Sysop: ? + David/Moderator: I agree with the military point of view the movie + | interjected, and many... + | people DO believe the military is indeed involved. The big + | problem is trying to decide just how... + | deeply involved the military is. Did they establish an Alien + | government pact, like many belive, .... + | or are they simply trying to find answers to the UFO mystery as + | a whole... + | Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: What WAS the military's view?... + | and if the Aliens are of a higher enough intelligence... + | to get themselves here in the first place... + | I would think that they would be intelligent enough... + | NOT to get involved with the miltary OR ESPECIALLY our + | government! GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Ok.. + | First, the governments point of view, in the movie, was they + | knew of UFO's but had not yet discovered.... + | why they are here, what they want, and if they prove a security + | risk.... + | Therefore, they refused to tell the people until they could + | answer these questions for themselves....AS for the second + | point... + | many people believe the aliens are here for sinister reasons, + | and that they have entered into... + | a collaboration with our government to avoid possible conflicts + | in the future... + | Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: OK... + Rilla/Sysop: ! + Joe Balsamo: I think that the US government may have some recovered + | vehicles, may have some dead, frozen aliens, and _may_ have + | even had a live + | alien at one time... + Tony Alicea: ! + Joe Balsamo: This is speculation drawn from eyewitness accounts and other + | data. I DO NOT think the US government knows a lot more than + | it's + | citizens are being abducted in a specified manner by an alien + | technology. I DO NOT think that aliens are involved with + | the... + | US government, for the very reasons that Rilla points out. I + | also don't think the aliens _are_ a threat to us, in fact their + | ultimate purpose is quite unclear. GA + David/Moderator: OK... Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: ok.... + | I know that I am somewhat of an idealist ... + | but I have a really hard time believing that a civilization + | that is... + | advanced enough to be capable of and have experienced space + | travel... + | could be here for "sinister" reasons. sigh...idealism dies + | hard. GA + David/Moderator: Tony > ga + Tony Alicea: I am sorry, It's not the "Miller" case *but* The Betty And + | Barney *HILL* case + | ... + | that I was reffering to! (long time...) I must leave now; so + | have a good... + | weekend ... Peace!; Bye + David/Moderator: Bye Tony, sorry to see you leave..ga + Rilla/Sysop: ? + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: For the record.. + | will one of you elaborate on the Hill case...I think I remember + | it but not... + | sure...werent they abducted and operated on? + | ga + David/Moderator: Would you like to elaborate Joe? ga + Joe Balsamo: Sure... + | This case is very similar in its basic nature to the cases + | described in the general abduction literature that has happened + | to + | literally millions of people worldwide... + | A couple was abducted, sperm samples [taken] from him, gyn + | [gynecological] exam on her, + | but one of the most interesting aspects of the Hill case is + | that + | Betty was 'shown' a star map... + Rilla/Sysop: ? + Joe Balsamo: that did not conform to any known systems until years later + | when certain stars coincided propely denoting the Zeta Reticuli + | system. + | GA + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: wow! Ok... + | Are most people's recollections ... + | of the abductions always NEGATIVE? I would think that at least + | SOME... + | woud be positive. And I have another question after tis one + | ga + David/Moderator: OK... + | Well, some abductee's feel almost "special" to have been + | abducted. Even though tests have been performed on them... + | they feel they were selected for a higher purpose of some kind, + | and yet it seems almost ALL... + | abduction cases involve medical exams. Other are talked to and + | made to believe that they are some part of a plan, ... + | which the alien's have planned for us... Rilla, next question > + | ga + Rilla/Sysop: sorry... + | trying to answer sen questions and talk... + | ok... + | my other question involves the phobias... + | Are these common for abductees? + | ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: I know what phobias are, but could you be more specific? + | What kinds of phobia's exactly...ga Rilla + Rilla/Sysop: Well...specifically flying... + | but also issues of "safety" + | you know... + | abnormal worry about accidents, kids safety, health, financial + | problems... + | I dont know how to be more specific. CONTROL issues. GA + David/Moderator: I get it... + | Yes, many people afterwards are afraid of such things as + | flying, medical exams, doctors, + | they are scared of the dark, abnormally afraid for there + | children, constantly seem unclean, and so forth... + | I believe that its just natural to have such 'phobias' after + | such a trying experience... + | Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: ok... + | It seems to me from the stuff that I have read in the abduction + | literature, it seems that the experience is similar to any + | other + | kind of violent assault... + | But it is worsened by the fact that the abductee KNOWS it will + | happen again, something that most crime victims don't have to + | contend with... + | At the same time it seems that the aliens don't _mean_ to be + | causing harm, its almost as if they don't understand. GA + Rilla/Sysop: ? + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: That reminds me of another question... + | has there been any change, according to the documentation... + | in the way the abductions and examinations are carried out... + | that would show that the aliens are coming to understand our... + | physical or psychological makeup any better? Are they being... + | "kinder and gentler" aliens? + | ga + David/Moderator: Rilla,... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: It doesn't appear that the aliens are learning anything + | from all those exams, in fact... + | they seem to carry on the same work over and over again... + Rilla/Sysop: excuse me.. + | that doesnt make any sense at all in light of how intelligent + | they would... + | have to be...does it? ga + David/Moderator: Not really.... + | unless they are here for sinister reasons, or something we + | can't yet understand...ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > ga. + Joe Balsamo: Thanks... + | I don + | whoops... + | I don't think that this is the case at all, there ddoes seem to + | be some indication that they have performed their experiments + | in a + | variety of ways... + | I don't know how systematic they studies of the improvement of + | the procedures are...perhaps we can get an NSF grant to study + | it? :) + | GA + Rilla/Sysop: + David/Moderator: + | I don't necessarily agree. + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: the aliens seem to be conducting the same work, under + | different ways... + | but the same type of tests over and over again. Perhaps we are + | working with different groups of aliens?..... Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: I think part of the problem in researching this issue is + | that it is impossible to get any funding for serious + | research... + | this being the case, we have to rely on people like Budd + | Hopkins who do it as an advocation and help to abductees. + | But, of + | course, if the government doesn't want this info out... + | that will never happen (getting funded research) GA + Rilla/Sysop: ? + David/Moderator: Yes, but another big in researching this work is the + | hypnotist's themselves... + | if during regressive hypnosis, the hypnotist is not EXTREMELY + | carefull, he will push off his thoughts onto the person he.... + | or she is regressing......Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: Hypnosis is not the technique to use IMHO... + | there are too many uncontrolled variables and we cant say for + | certain... + | exactly WHO we are talking to while in a regressed situation... + | the person, an ego state, a disembodied spirit, a separate + | personality... + | etc. It is not an exact enough science to be trusted even by + | those of us... + | who believe in it. That said...my REAL question was... + | someone has mentioned building a data base on here... + | of known sightings and abductions... + | what if you were to put the word out that we were doing such a + | gathering... + | of data... + | on a system as large and as international as this one... + | SOMEONE would bound to take notice... + | and if you began to get pressure or funny things started + | happening... + | you would have some sort of clarification at least for + | yourselves. ga + David/Moderator: Rilla, are you telepathic> ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + Rilla/Sysop: David> yes + | and clairaudient so watch what youre thinking!! + | + David/Moderator: YES MAAM.....Joe ga + Joe Balsamo: sorry... + David/Moderator: Joe> ga! + Joe Balsamo: minor kitchen crisis... + | I think that Rilla's idea is fantastic! I'm a database + | designer in real life, so I would love to design a system to + | input the data + | into... + | If we do catch the attention of the CIA or whomever, it would + | not be the first time that people have been hassled over this + | affair. GA + David/Moderator: Rilla... + | What would be the possiblity of establishing such a database? + | ga + Rilla/Sysop: what do you mean? We have a data library here for your use. + | More than that? + | ga + David/Moderator: I would think so, Joe.... + | are you talking of like a 'real' database type system?...ga + Joe Balsamo: Well... + | A real database wether it is computerised or not, has to have + | some internal consistency to be of any use... + | for example, we are going to need to establish parameters that + | people are going to have to report on and try to quantify as + | much as + | possible... + | the hard part is going to be the leg work (finger work?) of + | getting the word out and getting a report form and all that + | stuff, then + | building a hypercard stack or whatever ain' no big deal GA + Rilla/Sysop: ? + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: Joe Walters> you have a better idea of the operations of CIS + | data bases... + | Do you have any comments or suggestions here? ga + Joe Walters: Not really... + | That sounds more like the sort of thing... + | that requires a single user to collate and construct... + | into a user-accesible database form, hopefully... + | in some manner usable by MS-DOS types, Mac users, Apple II... + | folks, etc. etc. Beyond my fields of expertise! :-) ga + Rilla/Sysop: ! + David/Moderator: Joe... + Joe Walters: (the HyperCard stack idea was probably the most + | user-friendly approach) + David/Moderator: Would it not be possible to construct a PC based + | database system then to + Joe Walters: ! + David/Moderator: upload the database itself here to be exchanged with + | others? ga Joe + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga + Joe Walters: Could be, as long as it's in a form transportable. Another + | approach... + | might be to have a "team" involved; one "leader" to gather... + | the raw data, and three or four users to customize it for... + | the various platforms; an MS-DOS person to put it in... + Joe Balsamo: Wouldn't be a problem to do something on the PC as well. + | Like I say, the work part of it would be to come up with forms + | that could + | be filled in by people... + Joe Walters: dBase form (or whatever is popular these days), a Mac + | person... + | to put in a Hypercard stack, and I'd be willing to serve to... + | build a HyperStudio stack for Apple IIgs users. + | (ga) + David/Moderator: OK,, Joe B > ga + Joe Walters: Too many Joes in here! :-) + JoeB | yep... + Joe Walters: Hehehe. All in favor of Joes ruling the universe.... Nahhh. + Rilla/Sysop: !!!!!!!!!!! + David/Moderator: no + Rilla/Sysop: + + +[At this point Joe Balsamo change is ID to JoeB to avoid confusion!} + + JoeB | Umm, I think the design of the report forms is the important + | thing, that and getting people to know that this forum is + | trying to do + | a data gathering project GA + Joe Walters: Need one more so we can win! Where's Joe Kohn when I need + | him\?? + | ! + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga, + Rilla/Sysop: hehehehe...finally... + | + | I was going to suggest.. + | that you talk on the phone with Neil when he gets back.. + | and let him know what it is that you want to do... + | I'm sure that he will know the limits of what CIS and this + | forum... + | has to offer. He's also a good idea person. ga + Joe Walters: Hmmm.... + | What is this "talk on the phone" concept? Isn't that some sort + | of... + David/Moderator: Joe W > ga + Joe Walters: low-speed voice comm method that uses equipment better + | suited... + | for modems and computers? Anyway, I could certainly discuss + | it... + | with Neil, but seriously the CIS databases are really + | LIBraries... + Rilla/Sysop: + Joe Walters: and are not structured to handle what we normally think of + | as... + JoeB | ! + Joe Walters: "databases" with the exceptions of special areas (like the + | encyclopediae... + | and so on). That would be a big pain to set up and maintain, + | and users... + | who have automated access programs (Nav, TAPCIS, etc) can't + | really use... + | those areas well. I think this would be better suited to having + | someone... + | gather the data (that's where a standardized form & getting the + | word... + | out comes in) and having users structure the data in an + | organized... + | form comfortable to the end user. Download the file, load into + | your... + | fave DB/Hypermedia program, and checkit out. GA! + David/Moderator: JoeB > ga + JoeB | David... + Joe Walters: brb! + JoeB | I was just going to suggest that Joe W's idea is pretty much + | what I have in mind, that way people can just d/l the standard + | form, + | fill it in, and u/l it... + Joe W | (back!) + JoeB | We could then be responsible for putting it into a more useable + | database offline, then upload THAT for usage by researchers. + | Whattya think? GA + Joe W | ! + David/Moderator: I like it.....Joe W > ga + Joe W | The two Joes are in perfect agreement! ... + Rilla/Sysop: ! + Joe W | Note that we can make use (probably) of What's New when we + | start... + | this up, and I'm sure that there will be continuing mention of + | this... + | project as appropriate both here and in ISSUES Forum, and + | the... + | UFO mags will probably give us some free publicity. We could... + | become THE clearinghouse for this sort of info. Until we all... + | mysteriously disappear, of course. :-) GA + Rilla/Sysop: + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: I was thinking that you could put... + | an explanatory message on the board which we could put on + | HOLD... + | so that it doesnt scroll... + | and then add to the News Flash a pointer saying "go check + | message #XXX"... + | about UFO survey... + | I think that you could EASILY become THE clearinghouse with + | just a bit... + | of work...which you all are doing already. We'd be happy to + | help... + | the extra publicity doesnt hurt the forum . + | ga + Joe W | Ah, yes! The old (H)eld message trick! + Rilla/Sysop: hehehehe + Joe W | ! + David/Moderator: And the commanders need something to do too!... ga + Rilla/Sysop: + David/Moderator: Joe W > ga + Joe W | OK, well, I think we see what needs to be done on this type + | of... + | thing. We can "self-start" it by seeding the initial + | database... + | with known cases and reports (The Hills, Jimmy Carter, etc)... + | just to prime the pump. We really need to build (I hate to... + | use this word) a committee now to actually do it. I need a ... + | better word than committee, as those never do anything... + | Anyway,... + | we need a team leader, a volunteer for each computer type... + | of interest, and the leader may want to appoint a couple... + | of helpers to assemble the data and get the forms together. + | Oh, and Interested.... + | Computer Types would be defined when someone pipes up... + | and says, "I wish there was a database of this for the... + | Atari Whatever," and we immediately appoint him/her as... + | the coordinator for that system. :-) DONE! + David/Moderator: OK.... + Joe W | (I Nominate the UFO Section Leader for the position of Team + | Leader.) + | (hehehe) + Rilla/Sysop: I second! + David/Moderator: JoeW, thanks alot.. + Joe W | Yer Welcome! + David/Moderator: Ok, I would be willing to jump in, what the hey, I'm + | section leader right? ga + JoeB | ! + David/Moderator: OK...just a sec... + | JoeB > ga + JoeB | I just wanted to say that this really has quite a potential to + | start a systematic aproach to reporting, we may want to talk to + | MUFON or CUFOS or all of them to get some ideas... + | forms that they are undoubtedly using and just use them or a + | variation of such, with the organizations permission, of course + | GA + Joe W | Good ideas! + David/Moderator: Are we all genius's here or what? ga + Joe W | Members of the New Age Forum Mutual Admiration Society., + Rilla/Sysop: ! + David/Moderator: Rilla > ga + Rilla/Sysop: I have bad news David... + | my buffer got bumped about a half an hour ago... + | and I wasnt watching it cause the screen was blanked... + | so I DONT have a transcript of this co...did you make one? I + | hope!!! sigh + David/Moderator: Don't worry, I think I recorded it all, at lease I hope + | so! + | Should we go informal now? + Rilla/Sysop: good! + JoeB | I have it to. + Rilla/Sysop: yes! + | + JoeB | YAAAAAAAAAAAA + Rilla/Sysop: Great job David!!!! + | you did it! + David/Moderator: Thank you Thank you, just send money please! + Rilla/Sysop: + Joe W | We all survived! + David/Moderator: Specially me! + JoeB | well done, good show indeed! + Rilla/Sysop: What money, we already gave you a free account!! + | hehehehehhehee + David/Moderator: Not bad for 5 or 6 people? + Rilla/Sysop: I think that you should make this a regular occurence. + David/Moderator: I'd like to if its possbile, it has potential! + Rilla/Sysop: Figure out how often you are comfortable with and go with + | it. + | Just dont schedule it the same time as the ISSUES co. + | + David/Moderator: I did that on purpose... ha ha ha + Rilla/Sysop: And dont feel badly about the show... + | not very many people show for the co itself... + | but LOTS will download the transcript! + David/Moderator: Yea, CIA, FBI, NSA + Joe W | Hahaha! + JoeB | more and more info being sent out, that's what is important in + | this issue. + Rilla/Sysop: hahahahahaha....they will have to add a new page to my file! + David/Moderator: Anyhone interested, meet in room 2? + Rilla/Sysop: Yes, I'll be there in a minute... + | our Sunday co is scheduled for 9 and I need to check the board + | first. + David/Moderator: Its been a pleasure, thank you all for coming! + JoeB | For a bit, then i gotta get some dinner! + David/Moderator: Meet you in CO 2 + + +THE END! (for now!) + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2962.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2962.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2b5af028 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2962.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,37 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......MAY 1992 FILE: UFO2962 + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + (Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field + Investigators. For case determination, contact the + appropriate MUFON State Director.) + +State:........... Missouri +Date:............ Late May, 1992 +Location:........ Marshfield, Missouri +Case Description: + +A Webster county woman was driving alone on a rural road 5 miles +south of marshfield, MO, when her attention was drawn to a large +red light in the northwest sky at just above treetop level. She +pulled over to the side of the road and stopped, watching the +light. As she stopped, the light became discernible as an object +and dropped slowly behind some trees and out of sight. She +described the object as oval in shape, approximately 30 feet by +60 feet, glowing red and noiseless. The object was less than +one-quarter of a mile away from the witness. + + + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2963.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2963.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..255e5703 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2963.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,639 @@ +SUBJECT: NEW AGE FORUM 07-JUN-92 FILE: UFO2963 + + + + +*********** New Age Forum 07-Jun-92 16:53:12 + + R1: *SYSTEM*| Switching to Formal Conferences (R1) + Joe Balsamo: Hello + David/Moderator: Hello + Joe Balsamo: I'm starting to feel lonely, Dave, we are the only ones here! + David/Moderator: No prblem, Peter Baitz promised he'd be here! + Joe Balsamo: Whoops! My Smart Alarms just told me it's time for the UFO + | CO!!! + David/Moderator: We still got 5 minutes anyway. + | And here's Rilla! + Joe Balsamo: Hmm...my clock must be fast + David/Moderator: I hope you got your suit and tie on, this is a formal CO + | you know! + Joe Balsamo: Ahh, so it is (starting to feel less lonely already:-) ) + | Suit...suit, heck, I've got on my Tux! + David/Moderator: I hope Peter makes it alright, he's never been in a CO + | before and may have trouble. He using the old command mode way + | of doing + | things. + | Peter be here!!!!!! + Joe Balsamo: Well, I can see everyone that just enters the forum on MAC + | CIM, so we can always give him instructions + | HHello Peter + Peter Baitz: Hello + Joe Balsamo: Hello Dennis + Dennis Mahlmeister/: Hello all, what's happening? + David/Moderator: Welcome Peter, gald you could make it! + Peter Baitz: I am too! + David/Moderator: We have 3 minutes will CO time, so we're waiting. + Joe Balsamo: Looks like we are going to have a nice CO today! + David/Moderator: Its about time! + Dennis Mahlmeister/: Dave, I didn't know there was a CO, saw the crowd + | and thought to drop in... ;) + | What's the CO on? + David/Moderator: Well, heck Welcome anyway! Neil forgot to post the News + | flash for me! + | The CO is on UFO's! + Dennis Mahlmeister/: Oh, ok. + David/Moderator: Still interesting I hope? + Joe Balsamo: Dennis, we'd really appreciate it if you'd hang with us for + | at least a little while + Dennis Mahlmeister/: Sure, don't know how long I will be able to hang + | around, but will see what's going on. + David/Moderator: Good enough, Peter you still out there? Having any + | trouble? + Dennis Mahlmeister/: I have a friend that swears that there is a room in + | her house that people + Peter Baitz: New he!I am here. I understand we may talk of the database + | also? + Dennis Mahlmeister/: have been abducted from by UFO's and when they are + | brought back they have... + David/Moderator: Yes, and the UFO Shuttle video as well. + Dennis Mahlmeister/: a splitting headache and marks on their necks. + David/Moderator: Dennis, does you friend of CIS access? + | I mean 'have CIS access" + Dennis Mahlmeister/: Not usually, but I could go over there one day and + | log on from her house... + | and let her use my account. She does have the equipment. + David/Moderator: It would be interesting to perhaps have them join a CO + | of ours, and just tell us about here story. + Joe Balsamo: That would be fantastic. + Dennis Mahlmeister/: I will see what I can do, she is a very private type + | and is worried that if... + David/Moderator: If need be, I could arrange a one time, free account for + | here to use for a temporary time. Would that be better? + Dennis Mahlmeister/: her neighbors found out that they would get violent. + | There is a lot of Klan + | activity out where she lives. + Joe Balsamo: She could remain totally anonymous. + David/Moderator: She wouldn't have to use her own name. + Dennis Mahlmeister/: Dave, either way would be ok, I have to talk with + | her tho to see what happens. + Joe Balsamo: Dave, do you think we ought to start, or wait a bit longer + | for more to show? + David/Moderator: Good enought Dennis, let me know what she says. Are we + | all ready to begin? + Peter Baitz: !! + Joe Balsamo: Yup + David/Moderator: Peter, you have something to say? + Peter Baitz: TryinTJust trying to get used to this! I'm using DOS + | commands + | Not you interface, + | ok + | Who all is out there? + | Hello? + David/Moderator: We'll still here + Joe Balsamo: I think we lost Peter + David/Moderator: Peter you still out there? + Dennis Mahlmeister/: Nope, Peter is still here + User 4 | Hello- I'm back- seem yoYes. Seem to have gotten kicked out. + | Can you read my entries? + David/Moderator: What happened to your name Peter? + User 4 | I do not know. + | I see David and Joe. + David/Moderator: No problem, I can figure it out! Ok people if we're + | ready I'm going to start....anything else? + Joe Balsamo: Well, I count four of us here, that may be the group for + | today. + David/Moderator: Good enough, time to start now.... + | First a brief synopsis of the rules.... + | In this formal conference I will be the moderator and will keep + | track of whose turn it is to speak..... + | PLEASE don't interrupt the person speaking until it is your + | turn... + | when you have a question type a ?, if you have a comment type a + | !, + | I will then call your name in turn. As you type, please end + | each of your lines with ..., so we know that your still talking. + | When you have finished talking, at the end of your last line + | add GA, so mean Go Head, so we know to continue. + | Does everyone understand?...ga + Dennis Mahlmeister/: aye + User 4 | Yes. GA + Joe Balsamo: yup + David/Moderator: OK.... + | the primary part of this CO is about the UFO database, then we + | will discuss the UFO Shuttle video as seen on..... + | Hards Copy the other day. + | Does everyone have a basic understanding of the UFO database? + User 4 | ? + David/Moderator: GA Peter + User 4 | I read about it briefly in the last CO. Perhaps a 1-liner + | would help..., + | begin this. GA + David/Moderator: OK... + | The basic idea here is to design and implement a international + | UFO database, using this Forum as its home base... + | this database will contain ALL information about UFO research, + | i.e. sightings, abductions, theories, work, evidence, alien + | contact, + | just about everything that can be added...Does that explain + | things pretty well? + User 4 | ? + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | This would be a down/uploadable info-base for various computers + | or + | something online.GA + David/Moderator: At first it would be a downloadable database system + | yes... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: eventually we will hopefully be able to go to an online + | system, at least we hope so.... + | The only people really uploading to the database would be those + | make contributions to the database, and then + | only a select few would be able to upload a revised copy, to + | keep from having multiple copies of the database.... + | sitting out in the File base.... + | Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: Thanks...I think that Dave covered it pretty well, but as I + | see it, there are two major objectives... + | First we need to actually gather data. Design some kind of + | form that people can download and fill out in regards to their + | sightings... + User 4 | ? + Joe Balsamo: Secondly, we need to actually come up with a database system + | that allows search criteria, reporting, etc. etc. At this stage + | of the + | game, we are still designing everything... + | ust trying to get a solid group of volunteers. GA + David/Moderator: If I may add... + | we also want to encourage people to upload to us any private + | research they themselves may have done.... + | Peter > GA + User 4 | For the database, is an existing package to be used or are you + | doing..., + | some program for it like Dataflex , etc. or QBASIC...., C? + | GA + David/Moderator: Good point... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: We're hashing it out, thats why we're here (hehe), we + | NEED to make it available for as many different comptuer types + | as possible... + | Does anybody have any suggestions? + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Hang on a sec Peter, its Joes' turn, Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: I was going to say pretty much what you said. This is only + | the 2nd CO ever, so the most important thing is to get the core + | group + | of solid volunteers... + | then we can decide from there. GA + David/Moderator: OK Peter > GA + User 4 | Didn't mean to stomp on Joe. Most IBM computers with DOS have + | BASIC..., + | available. Programmers and "normal" people. GA + David/Moderator: True... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: but do we really want to program up a private systems of + | our own? Then, what about MAC's, and Apples' and so forth? + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: I would suggest that we consider using FoxPro. It runs on + | both Macs and PCs and we can compile EXEs with it... + | so noone really has to have the native language itself. GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | That sounds fine. I am not familiar with Apples. Can they use + | ACSII data? GA + David/Moderator: OK... + Joe Balsamo: Yes + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: JOE, you spoke outta turn, nasty nasty! + | Peter > GA + Joe Balsamo: ...whoops + User 4 | So if IBSo if IBM and Apples use ASCII data, even if FoxPro is + | not used..., + | a max of two programs would need to be written for the two OSs + | GA + David/Moderator: OK... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: What about the deal of having a comma delimited ASCII + | file, then we could include a record layout so that others + | could then just import it into there favorite db package.... + | Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: Actually, David, I think your idea is valid. IF we + | structure the data properly, then people can use whatever + | package they want for + | analysis. GA + David/Moderator: Peter, what do you think of that ideas? GA + User 4 | I think this is fine. Otherwise people may dislike "our" + | database..., + | and resort to their own package anyway. GA + David/Moderator: Good point... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: besides I think we're all programmers here, and I don't + | know if we could write something for Apples, Ataris's and all + | the others. + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: It would definetly be a full time job just in + | itself.....Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: I think we need to concentrate our efforts on the structure, + | gathering and verification of the data itself... + | this is going to be the bulk of making this a viable project. + | GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | I think creating the structure is the best start. Also, side + | point..., + | Novell Networks for one allow sharing of ASCII between IBM and + | Apples. GA + David/Moderator: Good point... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: another thing I'd like to add, we must establish a group + | of people we can all rely on to do their part,... + | Joe and I have pretty much agreed to give whatever time we + | have, to doing this thing. Can we count on you to help out + | Peter?.... + | Joe, a sec, Peter > GA + User 4 | Yessir!! + | GA + David/Moderator: Excellent, Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: I was going to suggest that one way we can use to get an + | idea of the structure is to analyze any current collections of + | data... + | such as those held by MUFON, CUFOS, Hopkins, or whomever. From + | there, we can use their ideas and meld them with our own to + | come up + | with a format. GA + David/Moderator: Good point... + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: but I also think we should start working on our own + | format, until, and if, we find anything out from those + | people.... + | Peter > GA + User 4 | I have just (really) recently begun with this UFO stuff. I + | have always read... + | up, etc... So I am not aware of the various organizations ..., + | I have heard of some, but do not really know them nor their + | formats for... + | investgation and databases. I would look into this. GA + David/Moderator: Your not alone.... + | All UFO researchers, and organizations, have there own + | databases, but the problem is that ordinary people..., + | like ourselves, don't have access to them. This db would be + | availble to everyone and anyone.... + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: but I am not so if these other UFO researchers are going + | to be of much help to us! + | Peter > GA + User 4 | So, most of these organizations would not be willing to work + | with CIS..., + | or us to import some of their info. GA + David/Moderator: I don't know, Joe what do you think? Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: Well, I have not explored it fully yet... + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: I have contacted MUFON, a group I belong to, and have not + | heard back from them yet. I have also gotten involved with a + | local... + | group called ORION that is by invitation only...if I am + | accepted into the group, I will see if they can be of help... + | they have many members involved in all of the BIG UFO + | organizations. GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | There is a upload of 3(?) test files containing addresses of + | some pages..., + | worth of groups. Perhaps any # of there. Letters, contacts, + | etc.GA + | Of these... + David/Moderator: I have some addresses and phone #'s as well.. + | I was contacted by the local MUFON director last night, about a + | letter I sent him in regard to this db idea, + | he said it was indeed interesting, but also said he wasn't sure + | if MUFON would like to really 'contribute to it very much".. So + | I don't know.... + | Joe, any thoughts > GA + Joe Balsamo: This is the problem with these UFO groups... + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: there seems to be a lot of infighting, back biting and + | information hiding...Not everyone, but just enough that it + | makes this kind + | of research very difficult to say the least. GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | Do we have access to government reports of any kind , etc. Just + | to start..., + | the database. GA + David/Moderator: Peter... + | we have documents gained from the government through the + | Freedom of Infomration Request, and Joe and I both.... + | have some extensive data of our own with which we could 'seed' + | the database.... + | The biggest worry that bother me is all the other Projects I've + | seen that have fallen by the wayside becuase of stuff that.... + | Joe mentioned before, the back biting and so forth, that is why + | I've got the feeling that we should start working.... + | on our own system, and then if these other groups want to help, + | or contribute, we can always 'modify' our layout a little bit... + | I'd just hate to see this thing get tied up in 'Red Tape'... + | GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: I think that at this time, it might be good to discuss some + | goals and try and have a plan of action by our next CO.... + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: So far, the only people we have comitted to do work are the + | 3 of us, so I don't know if we should just take the ball and + | run or get + | more involved, what do you guys think? GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | We will probably break this work up.... Perhaps we can come up + | with some + | topics and assign some research for next CO. IE. Each topic + | ..., + | broken into a datastructure. GA + David/Moderator: Joe, comments? > GA + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: That sounds fine to me... + | do you think we should each come up with a form that might be + | useful or what? GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | We could all work on some heading related but seperate and add + | them..., + | together or all come up with a complete datastructure and + | compare notes..., + | by uploading each others work. Hmmm. GA + David/Moderator: Not a bad idea... + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: In fact a pretty good idea, each of us could come up + | with his own idea of the structure of the thing, ... + | and then we could compare notes. Peter > GA + User 4 | Since you two seem to be a little more advanced in this, maybe + | we can..., + | throw around some ideas for this... make a sketch.GA + David/Moderator: Good for me... + | Let me give you an idea of my personal database I use at home... + User 4 | !! + David/Moderator: ................Peter > GA + User 4 | I just want to make sure I can get a copy of this for review. GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: I think that Peter's idea is good. We should each come up + | with our own database form, upload it or whatever, and then + | next CO, we + | can synthesize something from that... + | ps we should make a gerneral request of the entire forum via + | NEWS or whatever and get other ideas as well. GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | I think getting info from others is good to, but a final + | date..., + | may be necessary to get it moving. We should also have a + | general..., + | sketch of what we are looking for - maybe an outline of records + | and..., + | fields. GA + David/Moderator: Peter,... + | as for getting a copy of this CO, Joe and I are recording it, + | and one of us will upload a transcript of it either later + | tonight,... + | or tomorrow, so you'll be able to download it from the file + | section.... + | Anyway....Joe comments > GA + Joe Balsamo: Well, first off, I think the idea of a deadline is a good + | one. It should be a few days before the next CO so we can be + | prepared to + | discuss the various formats... + | ou think we should schedule our next CO? GA + David/Moderator: Good idea, do yopu think 2 weeks from now would give us + | enough time to compile together some data....anyone > GA + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | Sounds fine - 2 wks. Shall we sketch it out, what you all + | think? GA + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: 2 weeks is good for me...and, what, 'couple days before that + | the deadline for the submission of ideas for the database + | format?... + | Perhaps you can get Neil to post this in the proper place. GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | 2 weeks is ok for me - let me know the exact date. I was going + | to..., + | kid Joe he is watching Star Trek or something. GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: I was just going to let peter in on my secret...I'm actually + | soliciting for contributors to this meeting! GA + David/Moderator: Joe is being a biut bothersome to others! + | OK.... + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Why don't we say this, I'll act as central point here, + | you and Joe, upload and send any messages or files about + | this.... + | thing directly to me, I will then forward them on to the other + | in involved. We can do this via E-mail directly to each.... + | other instead of cluttering up the FIle base here...... + | Peter > GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | So you would like us to find some ...I am unclear as to how you + | will conduct the search for others ideas.GA + David/Moderator: First... + | I think we're talking about each of us working out his own idea + | as to the structure to this database.....Joe > GA + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: David, what I would also suggest is you (being the big + | kahuna and all :)) draft a little blurb for Neil to post... + | This blurb would basically explain the db idea and ask for + | group submissions to your PIN that would be the db description, + | the form + | if you will. + | ga + David/Moderator: Good enough............Peter > GA + User 4 | Ok. So Joe, myself and David will upload our own data-structure + | ideas..., + | to David, and this pending post for Neil will allow others to + | ..., + | upload theirs to David, all due a couple days befor the next + | CO..., + | at whuich time it will all come together. GA + David/Moderator: Yes.... + | I will draft a little *blurb* and see if I can talk Neil into + | posting into the New Flash, asking each for there ideas on ..... + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: how to basically structure this thing. In the mean + | time, you and Joe, will upload your ideas directly to me, via + | E-mail... + | Peter > GA + User 4 | I don't know about u guys, but I hate news blurbs unless they + | are really... + | interesting looking...maybe because I use DOS and not the + | interfaces u ..., + | use. It should be really eye attacting. GA + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: Peter makes a good point, perhaps we should ask Neil if + | there is any other method of letting users know what's going + | on...BTW, + | Peter, you may want to d/l CIM, it is a really cool program and + | I believe the d/l is free. GA + David/Moderator: Peter.... + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: CIM is what we use, and it only costs $10.00, then CIS + | give you $10.00 free usage, so its basically free. Its makes... + | things like this much much easier!... + | Peter > GA + User 4 | Great! Where do I obtain it...forum.? GA + David/Moderator: Joe, where do you get the thing? + Joe Balsamo: It is in the CIM forum, I believe, just do GO CIM + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: GO CIM, that will at least tell you were to go from + | there! + | Peter > GA + User 4 | Thanks all. Ok. Shall we throw around some basic ideas for the + | structure..., + | or just do it solo and upload.......or where do we go with this + | now.GA + David/Moderator: Joe, care to elaborate here....GA + Joe Balsamo: Well, I think that we may want to have the basic stuff... + | type of encounter, date, time, location, description, number of + | witnesses, etc. that should be good for a start... + | the more fields we have, the more selective our data inquiries + | will be, of course. GA + David/Moderator: Also... + User 4 | !! + David/Moderator: my database system I use has a field that points to a + | file name, to obtain more detailed info.... + | sometimes 15 or 20 pages worth.... + | Peter > GA + User 4 | How about C.Encounter type I, II , III etc with varied fields + | applying to..., + | each. GA + *SYSTEM*| Switching to Formal Conferences (R1) + David/Moderator: OK .... + | I uploaded to Joe, a new classifications system I found, and + | enhanced... + | that helps to make classifying these much easier, and you can + | better taylor it to the type of sighting.... + | we will need to include that in the file layout, and I will + | send the classification system to you Peter, so you have a + | copy..GA + User 4 | ok + David/Moderator: Joe, comments > GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: I believe that file is also in the library, is it not? + | Also, the nice thing about that new system is that it also ... + | lets one assign a factor of believability to the sighting. GA + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | Ok. I will def. look at the new system. Any suggested reading + | for these..., + | classification methods from various UFOlogists/groups? GA + David/Moderator: Joe, I think this guy is a minded reader!.... + | The classification system isn't in the library, but I'll upload + | it later.... + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: also, about the books, Joe and I have been compling a + | must read book list, so you'll have a list as soon as we're + | done..... + | Peter > GA + User 4 | I have also seen - in a report - a page for drawings - sky + | drawings..., + | or whatever a person can do as part of the report.GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: That is an excellent point! We should consider including + | GIFs with the reports. David has a scanner, so he could scan + | in any 'hand + | drawings'.GA + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | Most IBM compatible scanning software I've seen uses PCX or + | TIFF or others.., + Joe Balsamo: ! + User 4 | like this but not GIF. ! + David/Moderator: Peter, my scanning software will alos use GIF, and let + | me add.... + | that I can scan drawings, sketches, photos, just about + | anything, in 256 grey scal colors. Does an excellent job on.... + | Playboy centerfolds!........Joe > GA + User 4 | ! + Joe Balsamo: My only reason for suggesting GIF is because it is CIS's own + | format. Theoretically, anyone with CIS can use GIF. GA + David/Moderator: Well, I can do GIF so no prblem there.......Peter > GA + User 4 | I downloaded GRAPHSHOP so it can handle or covert all of + | these...., + | No actual problem here. GA + David/Moderator: Also.... + | I use PhotoFinish by ZSoft, and it will import, convert, save, + | load, anything in over 20 different formats so we're set... + | I also use OmniPage to OCR text and import it into my word + | processor, so we can also use that feature...GA + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | We have a Panasonic scanner at Optus (we develop FACSys) and + | use Calera..., + | for scanning needs.... so we all use great stuff. GA + Joe Balsamo: BRB + David/Moderator: Joes gonna check something out, he'll be back in a + | sec.... + | This ideas of your is wonderfull, I didn't think of it, we + | could inlude actual photographs taken from eyewitness + | encounters.... + | my software also allow me to do some photo-analysis, which + | would com ein handy as well....GA + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + User 4 | Which sort of leads us to the video... after we tie up the + | database ideas.GA + David/Moderator: Good point, I wouold like to discuss the video as + | well.... + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: Do you think we've covered enough on the DB to at least + | start working out a format of some kind...Peter > GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + User 4 | Yes. I will look at the system you recommended and draw on it. + | Do you..., + | tthink this system is good on its own? GA + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: I was just thinking that we may want to participate in the + | paranormal forum discussion on the video...what do you guys + | think ga + David/Moderator: Joe, bows to me.... + | Peter > GA + User 4 | Who is doing the paranormal CO? What's the topic(s) ? GA + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: OK... + David/Moderator: Peter.... + Joe Balsamo: They are having a discussion on the NASA UFO film that was + | shown on hardcopy, it might be interesting for us to get + | involved in + | their discussion. GA + David/Moderator: the paranormal section of the Issues Forum is about to + | have a CO on the Shuttle video, Joe and I were just + | discussing.... + Joe Balsamo: I;m heading over there, c you guys in a bit + User 4 | ! + David/Moderator: the possiblity of ending this CO and venturing over + | there...what do you think......Peter > GA + User 4 | Yes. Where is it? + | GA + | ! + David/Moderator: When you exit this forum, GO ISSUES, then select the + | Paranormal section, we can meet in the CO.... + User 4 | OK + David/Moderator: but a word of caution, there are some hard lined + | sketptics over there that can get REALLY RUDE, so watch you + | back....GA + User 4 | See you there. Thanks! Ok. Good CO this one - today. + | Shall we say bye? GA + David/Moderator: Thanks, we can E-mail each other if you have questions, + | or come up with some ideas....otherwise, we'll end this.... + | and meet over there....OK + User 4 | Ok On my Bye! + David/Moderator: Conference officially over,,, bye + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2964.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2964.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..370993e2 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2964.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,636 @@ +SUBJECT: NEW AGE FORUM 21-JUN-92 FILE: UFO2964 + + + + + +*********** New Age Forum 21-Jun-92 15:47:35 + + David/Moderator: Gentlemen, I think we need to call this CO to official + | order, is that OK with everybody? + Jeff Morrow: yes. + Joe Balsamo: yep + Steve | Yes + David - the other o: go + David/Moderator: OK.. here we go, first I must get the formalities out of + | the way so.... + | I am the moderator and will basically run the CO, if you have a + | question type a ?, if you have a comment type a !.... + | I will then call on you each in turn, please do not interrupt + | whomever is speaking, when your called on, please send a OK..., + | so .. + | that we know your typing your message. Finish each line with a + | set of elipses, such as ....,. When you finished, send a GA + | to... + | indicate you are finished. Everyone understand?...ga + Joe Balsamo: Yes + Jeff Morrow: yes + David - the other o: yes + David/Moderator: Ok... + | Joe I think you had something to say?...ha + | Sorry, I mean ga + Joe Balsamo: Well, how many people here are familiar with the database + | project that we have been discussing in previous COs? GA + David - the other o: ! + David/Moderator: David, ga + David - the other o: I know of it's existence. It seems there is some + | concern on duplication of + | efforts. GA + David/Moderator: There is concern that we don't want to duplicate the + | efforts of groups like CUFOS and MUFON...... + | however we are still trying to continue with the thing and + | talking with these groups in turn....ga + David - the other o: It seems there are two ways to go. A distribute base + | or a central base everyone chips into...GA + David/Moderator: Ok... + | actually we are taling of doing a combo of each. This Forum + | would be the central base, for now, but the DB would.... + | also be distributed through the normal UFO networks around the + | country.... + | The long term goal is to have a Forum dedicated to UFOs and a + | database that may be accessed online by anyone....ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + David - the other o: ? How far has it gotten in design? GA + David/Moderator: ok... + Peter Baitz: ! + David/Moderator: Good question, we started preliminary designed about 2 + | weeks ago, and we going to continue discussion here today... + | Nothing has been finalized yet because it involves so much + | data.. + | Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: Personally, since David and I are going to the MUFON + | convention in New Mexico, I'd like to wait until we have had a + | chance to speak + | to some of the other people... + | with UFO databases before we determine a final design. At this + | point, any and all suggestions are welcome. Obviously, this + | thing + | could turn into a logistical nightmare if we don't get support + | from some of the bigger groups... + | people on CIS have NO means to check out UFO reports, so I + | think our job would be more of a centralized clearing house for + | data. + | We just don't have the structural organization to do followup + | reporting. GA + David/Moderator: Peter > GA + Peter Baitz: Greetings all! I am here finally. How is it going today? GA + David/Moderator: Not so bad, we discussing the database as you can + | see..... + David - the other o: ! + Peter Baitz: hello + David/Moderator: Hello + Steve | ! + David/Moderator: You here Peter, we got you. David F, did you have + | something to say? ga + David - the other o: ok... + | Yes. A meeting with the other groups is imperitive for + | compatability... + | I would guess that the info is not in the same soft or + | standardized entry... + | forms. It might be a good idea to inquire or propose such a + | standard. Also... + | in line with the idea of centralize clearing house. A + | directory of directions... + | for research. you know something like "I'm too busy to deal + | with this right... + | now but it would be interesting to know...". + | Also maybe a request for data registry...GA + David/Moderator: Steve > GA + Steve | Do you intend to list sightings and call for local support in + | documenting the event? + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Ok... + | Thats an interesting point, and one frankly thats never been + | brought up before, but it is something that should be .... + | considered. As Joe said before, since he and I are attending + | the MUFON symposium next month, and we're going to talk to... + | several researchers there, it may not be a bad idea to wait and + | see what they have to say about the whole thing..... + | Joe > GA + Jeff Morrow: !! + Joe Balsamo: Ok... + | I think that everyone needs to think about what they'd like to + | see in a database for doing UFO research. Obviously, we want + | this + | thing to be comprehensive, but compatible as well... + | this point, we need to talk to the orgs such as CUFOS and MUFON + | and go on from there. I think that it might be more productive + | for + | us to hold off talking... + | he database until Dave and I get back for the symposium. + | Perhaps we should concentrate on the online newsletter which is + | standalone and totally... + | ndent upon just our group...what do you all think? GA + David/Moderator: Jeff > GA + David>the other: ! + Steve | ? + Jeff Morrow: Thanks, David! I agree with Joe. ... + | Each of these groups has its own adgenda, and we are not in the + | position... + | to do our own field inveestigation at this time. In order to + | function ... + | as a central database, we must have the support of at least + | some of the ... + | current research organizations. I have found that all these + | groups... + | pretty much guard their data, and don't mix well. I think you + | should test... + | the waters at the conference before jumping into the database, + | but let's... + Peter Baitz: ! + Jeff Morrow: proceed with the newsletter. I also see that I'm being + | paged, and havt leave in a minute. ... + | I'll pick up the rest from the transcript. Ga + David/Moderator: Sorry to see you go, put I'll post the transcript ASAP, + | David > GA + David>the other: OK... + Jeff Morrow: Thanks. Bye. Ga + David>the other: I concur with Joe and Jeff about the Newsletter. It is + | more immediately doable... + | The key to approaching the other groups is to be valuable to + | them... + | Provide a service that eventually they find they can't do + | without. It ... + | Must cost some bucks to keep the individual nets up and + | running... + | even with late night data exchanges. Researchers do tend to + | cover thier... + Steve | ! + David>the other: data territory rather close until they are ready to + | publish...GA + David/Moderator: I agree completely with what you and Joe and Jeff + | say.....Steve > GA + David>the other: ? + Steve | I agree with Joe on the newsletter, But I must have missed the + | initial + | premise of the database, would someone please explain. + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe your good at that, would you care to take the ball + | for a minute? GA + Joe Balsamo: Sure... + | First, I would suggest that everyone download the first two CO + | transcripts... + | these give a detailed description of what we have been + | discussing. In a nutshell, we wanted to create a central + | database... + | that would be available to anyone in the UFO field. It would + | include all verifiable contacts, CE I-V, and any other + | pertinant + | types of information... + | e CIS is international and available to so many, it would be an + | ideal place for all of this data to be stored. GA + David/Moderator: Peter, sorry for the wait > GA + Peter Baitz: No problem. I was just taking it in- catching up.... + | I see the database , now as a catalog in database form... + | of existing and any new (via CIS and others) UFO related + | reports. GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: David > GA + David>the other: OK... + | Comment first...that's just the line to take when pitching the + | idea to the othergroups... + | Question is ... who edits the newsletter...I suggest Jeff cause + | he's not here?...GA + David/Moderator: he he he, Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: OK... + Peter Baitz: ! + Joe Balsamo: First, is anyone else in this group planning on going to the + | MUFON symposium? Secondly, I suggest we discuss the online + | newsletter + | and who all here right now is interested in participating? GA + David>the other: ! + Peter Baitz: ! + David/Moderator: David > GA + David>the other: ok... + | I'm not gonna be able to get anywhere near AZ cause of busyness + | here in the city...I second the motion to table... + | Database discussion and move on to the newsletter...I've got + | some time I can give...GA + David/Moderator: OK. excellent! Peter > GA + Peter Baitz: I am interested as well. What will be the format of the + | newsletter... + | -a lump of articles? - one file? Where are we so far inthis + | regard? GA + David/Moderator: Ok.... + | For now we will table the Database idea until Joe and I have a + | chance to dicuss it with the people at the symposium..... + Peter Baitz: ! + David/Moderator: Now for the Newsletter, I don't know what the format + | will be, ASCII I suppose, perhaps a series of files, maybe + | pictures, maybe ... + | all ZIPped together. Comments? Peter > GA + David>the other: ! + Peter Baitz: Thanks..... + Steve | ! + Peter Baitz: I was in fact interested in the newsletter, just to nake it + | clear.... + | Ok GA + David/Moderator: OK great......David > GA + David>the other: ok... + | I've seen some impressive online newsletters (colors menu + | capabable)... + | Morning Star avaliable in one of the libs here is one...But I + | don't know what + | soft... + | they use to put it together...propriatery or unique I suppose. + | A start to get + Joe Balsamo: ! + David>the other: us moving fast would be ascii zipped then upgrade. + | Does anyone know where/whatmorning star uses?...GA + David/Moderator: OK.... + | Joe you go first, then Steve you follow...ga + Joe Balsamo: Thanks... + | I just called a friend of mine who is a newsletter expert and + | she is going to join us...hopefully she'll be here in just a + | sec...GA + Steve | ASCII & GIFF'S, YES! ZIPPED, + | THE MORE THE BETTER .=> GA + David/Moderator: Good deal, I think we're on to something here!..ga + Joe Balsamo: Hi Deb! + Deb Carlen: Hello, o spiritual master. + David/Moderator: Welcome Deb, how are you today? ga + Deb Carlen: No one else could call me out on a nanosecond but you. + | ga + Joe Balsamo: If I might but in for a moment... + David/Moderator: Ok Deb,.... + | Ok Joe > GA + Deb Carlen: Someone should re-state the rules for me. GA + Joe Balsamo: deb is a newsletter expert :)...I think her advise in this + | area could be the difference between total success or + | failure...sorry + | david, thanks for indulging us!...GA + David/Moderator: OK... deb the rules are simple.... + | If you have a comment type a ! if you have a questions type a + | ?, I will call on you in turn with the others....ok...ga + Deb Carlen: Dave, thank you; Joe, you are too kind. ...GA + David/Moderator: OK.. Deb, do you know what we trying to do here? ga + Deb Carlen: Not really; vaguely ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe, I take it youd like to explain? GA + Joe Balsamo: OK... + | Basically what we are doing is formulating the idea of + | producing a UFO oriented newsletter.... + | right now, it will probably start out in electronic form, but + | that is not to say that we may not want it to be in 'real' form + | later... + | Aside form that, the floor is open to suggestions. GA + David/Moderator: If I may.... + | The newsletter would encompass UFO sights, reports, + | investigations, and theories from around the world.... + | it would have articles, pictures perhaps, and reports from + | investigators. Thats my idea basically, any others? ga + Deb Carlen: ! and ? + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb Carlen: Sorry to be late to the idea... + | but if it's a fax NL, who's doing what... + | there are so many things I want to tell you about the effort I + | don't know where to start + | ga + David>the other: ! + David/Moderator: David > GA + David>the other: ok...Simple start would be bundle of articles/gifs ect + | zipped together left in... + | Library and/or sent to a mailing list on/offline. I've seen + | soft that makes online look really good. We (have we?) chose + | Jeff as editor + | what was that???... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: The editor is still up for grabs..... + David>the other: Chosing strawboss, contributers (putting out a call for + | submissions), format,...what else...GA + Deb Carlen: ! + David/Moderator: At this point its me and Joe, buts ANYONE else is + | welcome! + David>the other: JEFF!! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + | Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: OK... + | David the othe, I appreciate you wanting to volunteer Jeff + | ;)...but since he isn't here, I think we need to make sure the + | editor + | will be someone that is impecably reliable. The staff is going + | to have to consist... + | going to be able to stick with this thing. That is, IMHO, the + | most important aspect. GA + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb Carlen: I suggest (humbly, please) that whomever's to be involved on + | any level, take the course I teach... + | and I'll get you in for free. I'm in the midwest in July. + | Where are you all (y'all) located? + | ga + David/Moderator: Well I'm in Missouri...ga + Deb Carlen: St. Louis - July 7 ga + David>the other: NYC + Joe Balsamo: Well, looks like David is it ;) + Deb Carlen: Just missed you; the boss is there now but I can't get you in + | there til next time ga + David/Moderator: July 7, I can make that, where...ga + Deb Carlen: St Louis Marriott West - I'll email you details; be sure I + | get your CIS id. GA + | ! + David/Moderator: Good deal, Joe has my Id if you need it. Deb > GA + | again! + Deb Carlen: Sorry... just wanted to say that the course covers all + | aspects of NL production: writing, editing, DTP etc. I just + | missed Joe in SDiego, + | ga + David/Moderator: Cool.. I'll look forward to it..... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: OK, so I'll be editor, for some reason, and Joe is gonna + | be assitant editor, right Joe? GA + Deb Carlen: ? + Joe Balsamo: Uh, er, yeah sure!... + | I was just going to mention that we have lost about half of our + | group...I wonder what we should do at this point? GA + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb Carlen: What is anticipated scope of editorial mix/target audience? + David>the other: ! + Deb Carlen: ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: David > GA + Deb Carlen: Sorry David/Mod + David>the other: OK... + | How about the client nets first then broaden it out to general + | public if there'sinterest...ga + Deb Carlen: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: ok... + | I was pretty much going to echo what David other said (jeez, + | can we call one of you guys dave?) but I think that it will + | start out + | as an online NL... + guys dave?: ! + Joe Balsamo: and then progress to a physical nl from there. Obviously, + | the people that are going to be interested are the same people + | on here, + | and if it is good... + | it will just grow from there, hopefully...hahahah (guys dave, + | love it!) GA + David/Moderator: If I may interfect something..... + | It might not be a bad idea to make the thing proprietary of + | this Forum, but allow PUBLIC ditribution.... + | I have several friends with private networks who would be + | interested in helping to distribute it.......Deb > GA + | BTW call me BOSS....;-) + Deb Carlen: OK: Boss, guys Dave & Joe...hmmm we've got a lot to consider. + | You're giving away copyright, yes?... + David/Moderator: Deb . GA + NOT da BOSS: ? + Deb Carlen: if you're making it proprietary/ok to public distrib + | OK da Boss, but da means something else to me ;) + NOT da BOSS: :) + David/Moderator: OK da > GA + NOT da BOSS: ok... + | Question one can you keep Copywrite and still make public + | nonlimited distr?...seems I've seen it done... + Deb Carlen: ! + NOT da BOSS: Question two having given away copywrite can it be regained + | down the road? + | ...ga + David/Moderator: Remember folks, we are in a FORMAL CO here..... + | Deb > GA + Deb Carlen: NO; IT'S A USE IT OR LOSE IT LAW. It would take an hour to + | explain. + | but I'll send you all email. ga + David/Moderator: Well... + | we want it availble to everyone, but I would think we also + | would want it clear just WHERE it came from...ga + Deb Carlen: 1 + | ! + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb Carlen: OK... + | You can do that and still maintain a certain amt of control... + | but I think we're jumping the gun (my fault actually)... + JOE | do what? + Deb Carlen: to get into this before the edit/mktg is set up. ga + David/Moderator: Joe,.... + | this is a formal CO discussing the possiblity of starting a + | electronic UFO newsletter. + | Joe B, do you have anything to say....ga + Joe Balsamo: ? + | Yes... + David/Moderator: Joe B > GA + Joe Balsamo: I was just going to as Deb, since she is our resident + | expert, what we should do first. At this point, what do you + | suggest, besides + | David taking the course? GA + Deb Carlen: ! + David/Moderator: Is this course free?............Deb > GA + Deb Carlen: Usually $295. I have some discretion with guests. + | It's a full day. You'll be exhausted. + | ga + | ! + David/Moderator: OK, I hope you have a LOT of descretion with guests! ;-) + | Deb > GA + Deb Carlen: Hmmm. This could be interesting... + | First, draw up a list of topics... + | then a preliminary format, concurrent with a mktg plan ga + David/Moderator: Anyone have any suggestions for any of these + | suggestions? GA + Dave | ! + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Dave > GA + Dave | OK... + | Info gathering (esp from GOV'T ie FOIA), contacts of field + | workers, history of areas...ga + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: OK... + Dave | ! + Joe Balsamo: I was going to suggest that we gather the topics and such in + | a manner similar to the one we were going to do with the + | database... + | les post a message on UFO forum suggesting what we are up to + | and ask the group what topics and the like they'd like to see... + | The stuff that Dave mentioned is a good start (BTW, I have ALL + | of the FOIA's ever filed dealing with UFOs) GA + Deb | ! + David/Moderator: Dave > GA + Dave | OK... + | also sociological effects of the concept (RAW Higher + | intelligence, Benevolent space brothers ect)... + Joe Balsamo: ! + Dave | I agree with Joe on posting a rfc but we can't depend on it...GA + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb | use Joe's/Dave's suggestions you'll need 2 senior copy editors + | right off the bat. Info processing will be enormous. + | that's OK but be prepared. + | ga + Dave | ! + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: OK... + | I assume by RAW, you mean Robert Anton Wilson?... + Dave | Yes + Joe Balsamo: This is something we need to discuss right off the bat is + | just how far in which direction we want to go with this nl... + | do we want it to be purely scientific, or do we want to explore + | ALL possibilities. GA + David/Moderator: Dave > GA + Deb | ! + Dave | ok... + | I was thinking this permature but do we want to establish a + | point of contact... + | From what Deb just said (a bit upward re copy ed) it sounds + | like there should be one userid where decisions come from...ga + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb | We need a mission statement first first first; that's the + | hardest of all, THEN we do the editorial mix + | And yes, Dave, you need a senior head honcho to make decisions. + | ga + David/Moderator: Ok.... + | Since I'm section Leader of the UFO section, I guess I should + | be like main contact?....Also, Deb could you explain this.... + | mission statement for me a bit?...ga + Deb | Yup... + | It's a statement of purpose: why the NL will exist... + Dave | ! + Deb | it doesn't have to be a major report, just a few sentences. it + | also establishes your credibility. ga + David/Moderator: Dave > GA + Dave | OK... + | SOP Art 1 To support and deseminate research on the phenom + | UFO...ga + David/Moderator: OK.... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: I think Dave pretty much hit it on the head! + | Joe > GA + Deb | ! + Joe Balsamo: I still think we need to be real clear up front which + | approach we are going to take with this... + | as you all well know, one can take a 'purely' scientific + | approach, or one can open it up to all things...what do you all + | think? GA + Dave | ! + David/Moderator: If I may.... + | I think we should TRY and maintain a combination of a + | Scientific AND Neutral approach instead of leaning one.... + | way or the other like other publications do. Lets present the + | facts, as we know them.... + | David > GA + Dave | OK... + | The purely sci approach is one open to almost everything...If + | you are saying lets not pander to the fringe... + | I concour...However the phenom itself is so truly weird that + | some strange thingsare gonna come up...I... + | Favor straight reporting and not preaching the great Space + | brothers come to save us from ourselves... + | But those who belive are also a part of the phenom... + | Additionally, the phenom might not be a straight type of thing. + | Constant and open to the objective approach... + | Wasn't it Vallee who was approached by an ex-intelligence + | officer who said that the trouble with... + | the scientific approach in this matter is that science views + | information free for the taking... + | and that ufo's seem to be telling whoever what they want to + | hear? Like an intellop laying lots of mutually... + | conflicting info out there to be taken as gospel....GA + Deb | ! + David/Moderator: I'm sorry Deb, please GA + Deb | OK + | This is the type of discussion that results in good + | organization; you may want to ... + | let the idea gel a bit before the statement is written... + | you see how it spins out the ed mix already. You have two + | issues of ideas/topics now. + | ga + David/Moderator: Your right Deb, I think we should think about this + | awhile. What does everyone else think? GA + Dave | ! + David/Moderator: Dave > GA + Dave | OK...I'm thinking that it might be time to sked another + | meeting...Deb pse join... + Deb | ! + Dave | and pack it in for tonight (working into hour 3 here and I got + | colors coming up)...GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb | Thanks for asking. Yes. ga + David/Moderator: Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: She will be right back, David...I agree with what Dave says, + | though. + | whoops...sorry + Dave | huh? + | ! + David/Moderator: Dave > GA + Dave | Sundays are good for me but almost any evening will do (Save + | fri/sat nights). + | Say Sunday next same time? + | ga + Deb | ! + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb | I'm on the road a lot in July but if you email me, I'll show up + | any time but July 12 - I've got an on-air thingie then. + | It was nice to meet all of you. + | ga + David/Moderator: Deb I want to thank you for dropping by.... + | its was very nice AND very helpfull. I hope to see you back at + | the next CO! + | Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: ok... + Dave | ! + Joe Balsamo: shall we schedule the next meeting for 5pm EDT July 19th.? GA + Dave | June or July? + David/Moderator: David > GA + | July 19th, is that OK with everyone else??? GA + Deb | ! yes. + Joe Balsamo: Works for me + Dave | Next month is good for me... + David/Moderator: Dave, how about you...ga + | OK, great, then next month July 19th at 5pm EST, I'll set it up + | and Post a message. Anything else? ga + Deb | ! + Dave | ! + David/Moderator: Deb > GA + Deb | Will you be assigning any tasks for us in the intervening time + David/Moderator: Dave > GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + Dave | got make a rfc posting. someone what to make a draft of sop? + | route it around? + David/Moderator: Just a sec here, Joe > GA + Joe Balsamo: ok... + | I think Dave is right, we may want to post a message and gather + | up some thoughts and ideas from everyone so next time we can do + | a + | statenment of purpose. GA + David/Moderator: Yes.... + Deb | ! + David/Moderator: I'll post a message to everyone here in the Forum, in + | the mean time I would like.... + | each of you to think on this a bit, and maybe send me a + | message, or messages, via this forum as to each of your + | thoughts.... + | on how to approach this thing. + | Deb > GA + Deb | Never mind; you guys are way ahead of me. + | ga + David/Moderator: We try!!! :-) + | Anything else anybody? ga + Dave | yo + | Does anyone have a CUFON number for NYC? + David/Moderator: I don't, Joe do you? + Joe Balsamo: I have the main CUFOS number: (312) 271-3611 + Dave | tks and that's all i got ttfn oo. + David/Moderator: If that all, then I call this CO officially over and + | done with. Pass the bear please! + Dave | growllll ... you can have 'em. + Joe Balsamo: OK, good meeting, too bad we lost half the gang, though! + Dave | Good night all...[poof] + David/Moderator: Good night Dave, + | Deb thanks for coming by, I appreicate it. + Deb | Dobriya noche + | yer welcome + David/Moderator: Thanks, lost me for a sec, :-) + Joe Balsamo: hasta la vista + David/Moderator: Night to you all! + Steve | Bye all + Joe | Take it easy, David. + + + + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2965.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2965.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..fe52a7e7 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2965.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......JULY 1992 FILE: UFO2965 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field +Investigators. For case +determination, contact the appropriate MUFON State Director.) + + +State:........... New York +Date:............ July 04, 1992 +Location:........ Pinebush, New York +Case Description: + + +On July 4, 1992 about 9:30 p.m., a 32-year-old, self-employed man +and his +brother photographed nine red lights that appeared to be on a +triangular-shaped object off Route 302 near Pinebush, New York. + + +The object made a hissing sound. The witness had a new Canon +camera with +100-300mm zoom lens and 1600ASA Kodacolor print film and were +looking for UFOs +at a local "hotspot". Shutter speed was automatic, but estimated +at 1/15 +second. Four photos were taken and the best three were analyzed +using a PCD +Film Scanner Model 2000 and put on a Compact Disk attached to a +Model 2400 +Work Station. + +The three largest lights were mostly white on the film, +apparently caused by +over-exposure. The tops of the lights appeared flattened in the +most distant +photo, indicating possible shielding from the structure. + + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2966.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2966.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e25d31a5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2966.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......JULY 1992 FILE: UFO2966 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + CURRENT CASES...... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(From time to time, current, on-going cases which are being +investigated by MUFON Field Investigators will be posted.) + +A dated, but interesting report, is a case backing up an old +story. This recent report is by a former Navy man, where he and +many crew members aboard the USS Franklin D. Roosevelt CVA-42, +witnessed a flying saucer in 1958 during OPERATION MAINBRACE. +This report was made to a reporter of the REGISTER STAR, +Rockford, Illinois. The article was printed on July 6, 1992. + + +The witness described the incident as a "closeup, saucer-like +object, so close in fact that you could see the row of lights on +it as it approached the ship." + +He added that the object was actually spherical in shape. Photos +were taken with slide film, according to Barry Greenwood of JUST +CAUS. + +"Unsolved Mysteries" appears to be interested in the case. +Sightings during OPERATION MAINBRACE have been reported before. + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2967.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2967.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..497bdf72 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2967.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO APPEARS IN PHOTO FILE: UFO2967 + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO APPEARS IN PHOTO + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Mainichi Daily News, Tokyo, Japan - June 14, 1992 + +Montevideo (AFP-Jiji) - A snapshot purporting to show a silvery +UFO landed on the front page of an Uruguayan newspaper Friday, +after a professional photographer unknowingly recorded the +alleged flyby on film. + +The photograph run by El Diario was taken June 1 in broad +daylight in the city of Colonia, 177 kilometers west of here, and +shows a metallic object above the local lighthouse. + + +Photographer Nilo Molina, 58, said he did not notice the +unidentified flying object when he took the picture, and was +shocked to discover the image after he developed a roll of film. + + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2968.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2968.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..975324ef --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2968.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......JULY 1992 FILE: UFO2968 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field +Investigators. For case determination, contact the appropriate +MUFON State Director.) + +State:........... Missouri +Date:............ July 15, 1992 +Location:........ Webster County, Missouri +Case Description: + + +Two MUFON Field Investigators and four other witnesses observed a +craft in rural Webster County as 12:30 AM. The craft was +observed at a distance of less than 100 yards for approximately +one minute. The craft was moving at a slow walk pace about five +feet above the ground. The craft disappeared slowly as if it +were "going through a door." + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2969.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2969.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8111531c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2969.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......JULY 1992 FILE: UFO2969 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field +Investigators. For case determination, contact the appropriate +MUFON State Director.) + +State:........... Missouri +Date:............ Mid July, 1992 +Location:........ Marchfield, Missouri +Case Description: + +A Marchfield woman witnessed two silver disks through a break in +the clouds following a thunderstorm. The disks appeared to be +quite large and disappeared rapidly to the south. + + + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2970.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2970.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5c6dad8e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2970.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......JULY 1992 FILE: UFO2970 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field +Investigators. For case determination, contact the appropriate +MUFON State Director.) + +State:........... Missouri +Date:............ Mid July, 1992 +Location:........ Marchfield, Missouri +Case Description: + +Two men near Marchfield, MO, witnessed a large ball of light +maneuvering in the sky. As they watched, the light separated +into twelve lights which then flew off to the west in formation. + + + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2971.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2971.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1a366fea --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2971.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,635 @@ +SUBJECT: NEW AGE FORUM 19-JUL-92 FILE: UFO2971 + + + + + ********* New Age Forum 19-Jul-92 15:51:21 + + R1: *SYSTEM*| Switching to Formal Conferences (R1) + David/Moderator: Welcome George, OK, now for the rules, please pay + | attention there will be a test! ..... + | I'm the Moderator, the big boss here , if you have a + | question then send a ?, if you have a comment send a !, I will + | call on.... + | each of you in turn. DO NOT interrupt the person speaking + | until they are finished. Also.... + | While you are typeing, at the end of your message send a set of + | elipse like.... so we know your still talking.... + | When you are finished end your message with a GA, which mean go + | ahead... + | An questions? + MIKE HART: No + David/the other 1: ok + Teri Wheeler: ok + David/Moderator: Oh, by the way, when your called on please send like an + | ok..., so we know that your typing your message. Got it? + | Ready to go? ga + David/the other 1: ? + David/Moderator: David > ga + David/the other 1: ok... + TIM GORDON: g + David/the other 1: There's been some rethinking over Conference meeting + | day/times? Is there a preference... + Ron | I'm ready to go GA + GEORGE D. HOPPER: ready + David/the other 1: Sundays are good for me but most evenings (cept + | wednesdays) are alright...GA + Jason Reed: ! + David/Moderator: Jason > ga + Jason Reed: ok... + | later in the day would be better for me GA + Jeff Morrow: ! + David/Moderator: Has anybody got any preferances as to day and times? ga + | Jeff > ga + Jeff Morrow: ok... + | Being on the west coast, I would like a later time, if + | possible... + GEORGE D. HOPPER: ! + Ron | ! + Jeff Morrow: I know this may not be convenient for the people on the east + | coast, so i'm flexible.... + | Sundays are ok with me. GA + David/Moderator: George > GA + GEORGE D. HOPPER: Im flexiable also GA + David/Moderator: Ron > GA + Ron | ok... + | Either earlier OR later is OK, but earlier would be better... + | I am on the East Coast. GA + David/Moderator: Ok.... + | I would suggest that everybody send me a message as to what + | date/times you prefer, then I'll work it out from there. Sound + | ok? ga + Joe Balsamo: David + Jeff Morrow: + Ron | + MIKE HART: !GReat + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > ga + GEORGE D. HOPPER: ok + Teri Wheeler: ok + Joe Balsamo: What is the currently agreed upon time that everyone is + | saying OK to? + David/Moderator: Nothing yet, we were discuss this date and time, any + | suggestions from your end? ga + Joe Balsamo: It's 2:00 right now, right in the middle of the day for + | me...I don't know...Of course I may not be in touch again 'till + | mid August! + David/Moderator: Planning on leaving for somewhere, say Cygnius 5? ga + Joe Balsamo: Atlanta + Jeff Morrow: + David/the other 1: ? + David/Moderator: Ahhh yes, of course, forgive me! Ok lets get started + | folks.... + Jeff Morrow: >yhay's = that's> + David/Moderator: David > ga + David/the other 1: ok... + | Two questions. Did I see a posting that a software package had + | been found... + | ...for the newsletter? Also how was the conference...thumbnail + | sketch...GA + David/Moderator: Well... + | I did find a software package for the newsletter that works on + | the PC, it is excellant, and FREE!!!! As for the symposium.... + | I thought it was great. I learned a lot and met alot of nice + | people. It did get dry though in places.... + | Joe, you have anything you want to say about it> Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: OK... + | The symposium was excellent. I learned much from Stan Friedman + | who is an expert on the Corona crash and the MJ-12 papers... + | also, the info on the 14 witnessed abduction presented by Budd + | Hopkins is going to, IMHO, make or break UFOlogy...finally, the + | stuff on the mr. Ed Walters case presented by Jeff... + | ntating as well. ga + David/the other 1: ? + David/Moderator: Anyone have any specific questions about the symposium? + | David > ga + David/the other 1: ok... + | How was the database idea rcvd? + David/Moderator: Well, from those I talked with they liked the idea, + | though I did not have the chance to talk to Friedman or + | anyone.... + | else big about it. Joe did you mention it to anyone? Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: David... + | No, I didn't think that it was my place, you being the official + | rep for the New Age/UFOlogy section. ga + David/Moderator: Ok... but now your a big wig too! ..... + | I was thinking, everybody, of drafting a letter up that we + | could send, as a group, to the UFO organizations, and to .... + | researchers like Hopkins, Vallee, Friedman, etc., explaing what + | we're doing and trying to get there supports. Any comments? ga + GEORGE D. HOPPER: ? + David/the other 1: ! + David/Moderator: George > ga + Jeff Morrow: ! + GEORGE D. HOPPER: Yeah...I think you may get some flake...other ufo + | organizations arent very co-operative...as a rule. ga + David/Moderator: Good point... + | David > ga + Ron | ? + David/the other 1: ok...still a good idea...At the very least it + | documents attempts and responses. + | ...ga + David/Moderator: Jeff > ga + Jeff Morrow: ok... + | I'm going to get on my soap box for a minute here (groans from + | all)... + | Before we can ask for help or information from other parties... + | we have to decide what it is we are doing with this project.... + | I'm in favor of trying to increase the amount of KNOWLEDGE + | about the UFO... + David/the other 1: ! + Jeff Morrow: phenomena, not just keep a large catalog of rehashed data. + | Having said that, it is no small matter... + | to address the mechanics of putting that formula in place. I + | think the... + | kind of things Jason has been doing with the K2 reports is + | going... + | in the right direction. Comments? GA + David/Moderator: Well... + | I like the fact that Vallee mentioned in his paper for the + | symposium how a UFO database should be formed, and Ron here.... + MIKE HART: ! + David/Moderator: has made some interesting comments as well. What we + | need, what all UFO researchers need, is a central point from + | which they... + | can gather and input data... + | Ron > ga + Ron | ok... + | My turn on the soapbox!... + | I think that two issues need to be addressed right away... + | (1) Who will use it, i.e., who are the targeted users... + | (2) What are the information sources + | ... + | ga + Jeff Morrow: ! + Jason Reed: ! + Ron | ! + David/Moderator: David > ga + David/the other 1: I pass my comment to Mike. Gotta mull this a bit. + | ga + David/Moderator: Mike > ga + MIKE HART: ok... + | I think that everyone agrees that a database you have been + | talking... + | about is a great idea and you should, we should all lend our + | support... + | just keep in mind that you need to push the issue with all + | the... + | parties interested as I have seen, for 10 years now, this + | idea... + | discussed in the usual circles, with no results...ga + David/Moderator: Mike... + | Thanks for the support, and you are very correct in what your + | saying!... + | Jeff > ga + Jeff Morrow: ok... + | I agree that Ron has two very valid points. The information + | sources... + | is an issue that must be addressed before anything else. I + | think that... + | much of the information available today is not information in + | the... + | sense that it provides no verifyable evidence, or testable + | claims.... + | How do we sort that issue out with the resources we have. I + | think... + | collectively we have the intelligence, but what about the time + | and ... + | financial resources. Once we have sorted out the data source + | problem... + | it will be more clear who can benefit from this data. GA + David/Moderator: Jason > ga + Jason Reed: One thing...do *we* have the resources and manpower to do a + | good ... + | job with both a NL and a dbase or should we concentrate on + | one... + | and make sure we do it right...thoughts? GA + Deb Carlen: ! + David/Moderator: Jason, + | Good point, IMHO I would think the database would take + | priority, but I am open to suggestions.... + | Ron > ga + Ron | ok... I lost my train of thought since the subject has changed + | some... + | We need to pin down the following: + | 1. Who will use it + | 2. what will they use it for and how + | 3. Where does the information come from + | 4. And how will the informaiton be selected (i.e. EVERYTHING or + | just... + | some specific things... + | ... + | From my point of view, as a serious UFO skeptic, I would + | benefit greeatlly.... + | from having a sort of quick & easy reference library... + Teri Wheeler: I + Ron | maybe not necessarily a case-by-case database. + | ... + | Maybe the database should be thought of as a catalog of sourts. + | GA + David/Moderator: Deb > ga,,,, Ron I'll get mack with you in a sec. + Deb Carlen: Just wanted to say that we missed youat the NL seminar in St. + | Louis ga + David/Moderator: Nobody called me about it! hint hint! + Deb Carlen: Hmmmm. Thought I gave you the date and time at the last + | CO...? + David/Moderator: About the database and Ron's comments.... + | Who will use it? Anybody interested, including serious UFO + | researchers... + | What is it for...To have in one place all UFO evidence, instead + | of it being spread out over such a large area, AND... + | for once to have ALL the evidence available for people to + | puruse... + Ron | ! + Jeff Morrow: ! + David/Moderator: Where will it come from, that's a good questions...How + | is it selected, another good question.... + | Ron > ga + Ron | ok... Good long range goal, indeed... + | But, as i have been finding in going through some online + | searches... + | lately, there are MASSIVE amounts of data... + | The question really is WHERE DO WE START ? GA + David/Moderator: That's why we're here! Jeff > ga + Jeff Morrow: ok.. + | Well, where do we start? Do we go to MUFON and say *Excuse me + | guys,... + | we are a group of people on Compuserve who want to get this UFO + | data ... + Ron | ! + Jeff Morrow: sorted out, would you please give us a copy of all your + | files?... + | We then wait until a truck backs up at our collective door and + | dumps this stuff?... + | How do we start? Is there some way we can begin to gather data + | independent... + | of the other sources, in case they are slow or reluctant to + | cooperate? GA + David/Moderator: Ok... + | I thought along the same lines, let us collect independant data + | and inlcude into a database, while working with the MUFON and... + | the others.... + | Deb > ga + Deb Carlen: Nothing from here. Must've been an earlier ! + David/Moderator: OK....Ron > ga + Ron | Comment request withdrawn, i need to think a little more GA + David/Moderator: Ok.. now MY turn!!.... + | All UFO organizations, including MUFON and CUFOS have there own + | extensive UFO computer databases.... + Ron | ? + David/Moderator: the problem is they don't allow most people to access + | them, or they charge a 'nominal' fee. What is needed, as + | Vallee pointed out... + | is a central clearing house sort of, where ALL this data can be + | gathered into one place. Its time to start sharing... + | and I think that as a group we can get it all started!.... + | Ron > ga + Ron | Would it be possible to have a "gateway" from CIS into the + | MUFON and + | CUFOS databases. A subscription, if you want to callit that? GA + David/Moderator: Yes... + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: sortof, we can set up a gateway, easily done, but like + | CUFOS they charge like $1500 to access there system.... + | as for MUFON, they won't get back with me on any details, + | excpet they said that if I submit a formal request for... + | information, they will search their systems for it.... + | Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: OK... + | Where is the money going to come from for this? Even + | incidental expenses such as copies, searches, phone calls, etc. + | etc. This is + | why CUFOS and MUFON charge money... + | onest with you, unless we really pare this thing down, it's + | just not practical, IMHO. ga + Ron | ! + David/Moderator: Ron > ga + Ron | ok... + | Joes got a good point... + | Is it practical or possible to ask for sort of a "shareware" + | fee for + | downloading of data from the libraries, or does that only work + | for software. GA + David/Moderator: Ok... + | I suppose a shareware fee system could be set up, maybe, but + | will the cost be at first? I mean if we all took what + | information... + Ron | ! + David/Moderator: each of uses, and put that in the DB, it would take + | awhile for that to all get setup, later on then the money issue + | may come ... + | into play, but I don't see how it really does right now. + | Comments? ga + | Ron > ga + Jeff Morrow: ! + Ron | I also wanted to agree with Joe on "paring it down" at first... + | It looks like there's likely to only be at most 5 or 6 people... + Deb Carlen: !!! + Ron | working on this thing at first .... + | ga + David/Moderator: Jeff > ga + Jeff Morrow: ok... + | I think the money issue has to be adressed at the sta + | [C + | rt... + | If we are going to acquire data, it is going to cost us. Do we + | know how much?... + | If we want to get going, we are going to need some form of + | capital or other... + | financing, or else we are going to be really limited in what we + | can... + | accomplish. If we cannot meet the other UFO organizations on + | some sort... + | of equal footing when we ask for help or data, we are going to + | be really... + | limited in the amount of clout we can weild. GA + David/Moderator: Point taken.... + | but I think that if really start on the thing and get people to + | see that we are serious, and really TRYING to do something.... + | then they will fall in later and help us out. Especially if we + | can get Vallee or Friedman on out side!... + | Deb > ga + Deb Carlen: Excuse my barging in from the business point of view but PR + | and articles/infor regarding your efforts re DB will generate + | costs, and all + Jeff Morrow: ! + Ron | ! + Deb Carlen: the people here will have online costs if hthey help you + | (sorry msg got cut off) GA + | ! + | Get a grant or other funding now and you'll have enormouly more + | credibility. + David/Moderator: Thats true Deb, let me think that one over a sec.... + | Jeff > ga + Jeff Morrow: ok... + | I think we have started in a manner of speaking. Kason has + | taken this K2... + | thing through a logical progression. He has seen a report + | alleging certain... + | things, and has investigated them. One thing he has uncovered, + | is the... + | NASA heliport. This has added to our knowledge, and perhaps + | ultimately... + | to the explanation of activity in that area. In any event, we + | now know... + | more about K2 than we did. This series of reports and + | investigations... + | can form the first bit of available data in the database. + | Comments? GA + David/Moderator: Excellant!.... + | We have started, in a way, now lets take it a step further + | though and put it in a form besides just messages!.... + MIKE HART: ! + Jeff Morrow: + David/Moderator: AND, set it up in such a way so as other information, + | other research can be added!... + | Ron > ga + Jeff Morrow: + Ron | ok... I think we're looking at a spare-time, voluntary effort + | for the foreseable future, until we have a "proof of concept"... + MIKE HART: Z + Ron | and that means a concept... Jeff is onto something and it kind + | of + | goes back to what I said earlier about creating a depository of + | reference resources, and using an online DB to catalog the + | holding... + | I have to dissapear for about 5 mintues, but will be back GA + David/Moderator: Deb > ga + Jason Reed: ? + Deb Carlen: That's it from me. Enjoyed it guys. Good luck. + David/Moderator: Thanks for joining us! Mike/Irene > ga + IRENE HART: Sorry my call waiting cut me off GA all... + David/Moderator: Jason > GA + Jason Reed: is the db a complete reference in itself or an index to other + | files... + | that contain more complete references? ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + | ! + David/Moderator: Jason,... + | I was thinking a index of sorts, with limited descriptions, + | that would point the way to other more detailed files and/or + | sources.... + | Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: Pass, you answered what I was going to say. + David/Moderator: Ok... + Tony | HELLO! Just came back from Convocation! Fully charged! + David/Moderator: Mike have you got anything you'd like to add about all + | this? ga + Mike | ok... + | Yes, not to change the subject you are discussing, but I have + | to leave and... + | I will be in contact with you later as I am a professional fund + | raiser... + | and will start a project, if you desire to raise some capital + | for this DB... + | Please get back to me about later on tonight or when + | convenient...Mike GA + David/Moderator: Thank Mike, will DO!!!! + | Anybody else? ga + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: OK... + | Have we come to any kind of decision, yet, as to what we are + | going to do, specifically? IF so, perhaps we should divide up + | the + | work... + Ron | ! + Joe Balsamo: ind of from the old school of plan the work, divide and + | conquer, then work the plan. GA + David/Moderator: Ron > ga + Ron | ok... + | I am collecting data, of sorts, already, that you and joe + | already ... + | know about. It's not a database of UFO sightings, but I'd + | describe... + | it as building a collection of reference resources.... + | basically in the same manner in which I approach things I do... + | professionally. + | ... + | For example, the book list. After that, I plan to compile a + | bibliography of government reports (if any) and ... + | a list of UFO periodicals and magazines... + | ... + | It's too early, from a "research" point of view, to start + | building + | a case database... + | except as a prototype to show to prospective financers... + | .... + | What I don't know is what I should do with all that stuff. GA + David/Moderator: Well... + | I think the data you are gathering right now would be very + | valuable to others when it is finished. As for the database... + | well is it not feasible for each of us to transcribe on the + | computer what case information we each have... + | i.e. books, peridicals, journals, and basically start things + | from there? ga + | Anybody? + Ron | ! + David/Moderator: Ron > ga + Jeff Morrow: ! + Ron | Ok... It's a place to start. We got to start somewhere until + | we... + | can flesh out a viable concept... + | I will have further comments in a moment, but need to think a + | few minutes first GA + David/Moderator: Jeff > ga + Jeff Morrow: ok.. + Joe Balsamo: ! + Jeff Morrow: I have to go in a moment, but if there is anything I can do + | to assist in the preparation... + Ron | ! + Jeff Morrow: of the database structure, please let me know. I have + | fairly substabntial computer resources, and programming... + | knowledge in a number of languages (C, C++, FORTRAN, Lisp, SQL, + | Actor).... + | I will be away for about a week, and will give this more + | thought. If you ... + | don't hear from me after that you will know the rattlesnakes + | got me. GA + David/Moderator: Thanks Jeff.. + Jason Reed: bye jeff + David/Moderator: I will keep you posted on what happens and what we + | decide, I appreciate your help and support!... + | Joe > ga + Jeff Morrow: + Joe Balsamo: OK, I have several comments and suggestions, so bear with + | me... + David/Moderator: Bye + Joe Balsamo: First, i think that we need to start really organizing these + | COs to take better advantage of the time. We need to come up + | with an + | agenda and we need to stick to it and try and get some things + | accomplished... + | Secondly, it is impossible, for you, David, to do all of this + | yourself. You need to start being a deligator of tasks and not + | try + | and accomplish everything yourself... + | ON the database itself, I agree with what has been said, we + | need to decide WHAT it is for and WHO will use it, as Ron + | stated... + | it is a terrible waste of everyone's good time and money to + | simply *do* a database for the sake of doing one. Let's really + | pin + | down what it is going to be used for. What types of + | statistical correlations are we interested in... + | what trends are we looking for, what hypotheses are we + | attempting to test... + | Finally, we really need to narrow down a small subset of data + | and go after that. NOT based on what books people happen to + | own, but + | really try and fit our data collection into what we are trying + | to accomplish... + | the computer part is going to be the EASIEST part of all. + | Deciding what the purpose of the project, the general thesis if + | you + | will, is where the work is going to come in. GA Ron + Ron | ok...this might take a page or two ... + | Oh, BTW, is it my turn, David ? + | GA + David/Moderator: Yes, ga + Ron | thank you... + | I dearly would love to be able to get my hands on a + | comprehesive UFO... + | database, but it seems that it is not practical to go through + | MUFON or... + | CUFOS for that. Financially practical. ... + | SO, build our own... + | But, as I said before, there are huge amounts of data to deal + | with... + | and it will take years for just 5 or 6 people to get it to a + | useful... + | point working in spare time on a volunteer basis... + | ... + | I think that we start small, but keep future growth in mind... + | ... + | For the foreseeable future... + | the WHO is going to amount to Forum users. Regulars, temps, and + | visitors... + | Maybe 3 dozen people in all. + | But, as word gets around and as the collection grows, more + | people should start using it. I think we have to start building + | a reference + | collection and see what happens. What kind of access rates we + | get. + | .... + | The WHAT is probably, at first, going to be the typical sorts + | of ... + | forum uses. ... + | Specifically, it seems to occur rather frequently that someone + | new + | comes in (remember, I'm new myself, basically)... + | and wants to argue a case, or insists on having references at + | hand... + | Joe- you remember *****... (deleted by moderator) + | SO, the "hot" issues are going to be the current ones... + Joe Balsamo: + Jason Reed: ! + Ron | And that leads back to Jeff's point earlier about reports on... + | current cases... + | I'm monopolizing, so GA and I'll continue later..GA + David/Moderator: Jason > ga + Jason Reed: Sorry, but I've got to go...catch you all in the forums. + David/Moderator: Glad you could make it Jason, keep in touch! + Teri Wheeler: ! + David/Moderator: Teri > ga + Teri Wheeler: I have to go also, but wanted to let you know that you have + | my + Joe Balsamo: ! + Teri Wheeler: support...even if I am new! I'm not sure what I have to + | offer, but I + | ...would be glad to help. Bye for now. ga + Joe Balsamo: bye + David/Moderator: Teri, thanks for your support, and I'm glad your + | interested. Keep an eye on the messages and I'll see you later! + | Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: Yes... + | Actually, I need to get going as well, perhaps we should + | continue this discussion next week... + | Is there any thing we can do or talk about to kind of close + | this meeting in a manner that we can be thinking about for next + | time? ga + Ron | ! + David/Moderator: Ron, any suggestions from you? ga + Ron | yes... + | I was leading up to the following proposal:... + | As "hot" topics occur, someone (or anyone) uploads a short... + | document with the facts and references... + | Those will eventually form a foundation for a comprehensive + | DB... + | and in the meantime, they can be cataloged... + | In effect, I think I'm talking about a newsletter, that is + | cataloged... + | and eventually turns into a database. GA + Joe Balsamo: ! + David/Moderator: So perhaps we should work with the newsletter first, + | then expand out later? Joe > ga + Joe Balsamo: As a start, I think that is an excellent idea and much more + | 'doable' at this time... + Ron | ! + Joe Balsamo: I think that what Ron is saying is that we'd have a master + | index that would crossreference to individual articles... + | for example, this Don Ecker video deal. Someone could have + | uploaded a short paper on what it was all about, and it would + | be + | cataloged in the index. ga + David/Moderator: Ron > ga + Ron | Yes... Joe caught my idea.... + | David, I think with Joe gone, you and I are the only one's + | left... + Joe Balsamo: I'm still here, but I need to get going + Ron | SO, we have lots of things to think about for next CO. I'd + | suggest... + Ron | having one NEXT SUNDAY to keep things moving...I am done, if we + | have to clear out of here now. GA + David/Moderator: Alright, everyone think on whats been said, we'll + | message with each other this week, and meet back here next + | Sunday...OK? + Ron | OK + Joe Balsamo: ok + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2972.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2972.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..79c762e9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2972.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO RENDEZ-VOUS FILE: UFO2972 + + + + + + To: All Message #: 3610 + From: Mike Keithly Submitted: 31 Jul 92 +19:07:00 + Subject: Ufo Rendez-vous Status: Public +Received: No Group: INFO.PARANET +(1) + +MSGID: 1:104/605@FidoNet 6a930b08 + * Forwarded from "FidoNet UFO Echo" + * Originally by Jacques Poulet + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 29 Jul 1992, 18:52 + +Well, I've just heard a rather interesting news. There is a UFO +that has been seen often during the last two months. Always in +the same area, and always between 21:00 and 21:30. + + Francois Bourbeau, which is heading the OVNI-ALERTE +(OVNI is the french for UFO) organisation, was called. He went +there and has seen the object, has videotaped it (for about 2.5 +minutes). There was some observation done with binocular and +with a telescope (no mention of their respective +specifications). + + It has been detected by the radar at Mirabel airport. + + The object was at approximately 7 KM (5.25 miles) from +the observation point. Two days ago, a witness saw it over its +backyard (200 feet away). + + That's about all the data I've got for now. I'll add +some more if I find more. + Jacques + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2973.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2973.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..12dace39 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2973.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......JULY 1992 FILE: UFO2973 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field +Investigators. For case determination, contact the appropriate +MUFON State Director.) + +State:........... Missouri +Date:............ Late July, 1992 +Location:........ Springfield, Missouri +Case Description: + + +A Springfield woman reported two robed creatures in a vacant +field near her home. The creatures had amber eyes and appeared +to have a computer-like apparatus which one was operating. The +creatures glided over the ground without apparent effort. + + + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2974.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2974.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3b74d261 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2974.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......AUG FILE: UFO2974 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + CURRENT CASES...... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(From time to time, current, on-going cases which are being +investigated by MUFON Field Investigators will be posted.) + +MICHIGAN CASE: A family of four began seeing a very large +transparent bubble of ball of light (about 10 feet across) in +early Augest. Other witnesses began to see the object at close +range. + +None of the witnesses have felt threatened by the object but they +felt that they were being observed. + +It will hover near them (as close as 10 feet away), just above +the ground, and then zoom away. + +Case is still under investigation. + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2975.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2975.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..81dcd07d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2975.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,37 @@ +SUBJECT: RECETN CASES......AUGUST 1992 FILE: UFO2975 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + CURRENT CASES...... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(From time to time, current, on-going cases which are being +investigated by MUFON Field Investigators will be posted.) + +OREGON CASE: August 15, 1992, 12:07 a.m. Duration of the +sighting was 15 seconds at close range, 2 hours total visual +sighting. + +A triangular-shaped object with lights, emitting no sound, was +sighted slowly flying South East. The object turned and flew +over Salem Airport in an easterly direction, to a spot over the +Cascade Mountains, and remained there for one hour. + +The object then flew north towards Mt. Hood. After reaching the +mountain, it turned and flew back to the original position and +remained there for another hour. + +Case is under investigation. + +=END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2976.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2976.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..07bae0df --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2976.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......AUGUST 1992 FILE: UFO2976 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field +Investigators. For case determination, contact the appropriate +MUFON State Director.) + +State:........... Oklahoma +Date:............ August 25, 1992 +Location:........ Durant, Oklahoma +Case Description: + + +On Tuesday, August 25, 1992, a Durant resident called the +Oklahoma MUFON State Director at 11:30 p.m. and stated that +herself and a number of witnesses were watching a brightly lit +object to their west and had been doing so since about 11:00 that +night. She described in detail what they were seeing. + + +The first witness observed the object when he had gone to bed. +The time was 10:51 p.m. He looked out the west window of his +home which was open with the shades up. + +When he first saw the object, he thought it was a plane. But +when it moved fast, from one position to another, behind a tree +to another opening between the trees, he then realized that it +was not a conventional aircraft. It moved too fast too quickly +to be an airplane. + +The couple had company over, and the husband (first witness) +yelled for the others in the house to watch the object. He said +that it jumped to the right and stopped, swung like a pendulum +back and forth, and then stopped motionless. + +The others came to the bedroom to see the object, then proceeded +to move outside. Witness number 2 (wife) saw the object and +described it to be about 1 1/8 inches across at arms length (a +circular oval template was used to judge the size of the object). + +She saw it when it was angled towards her and saw a portion of +the bottom of the object, which was described as darker. + + +According to her statement, the object was conical with light +rays emitting down from the bottom edge. It was shaped like the +top of a bullet - pointed at the top, then extending down and +outward to form an umbrella shape, but more of a pointed umbrella +shape. It was flat on the bottom. No protrusions were noticed. +She said that she could see the shape when she looked to the side +of the object. She had glasses on and they are corrected for +nearsightedness. + +Witness number 3 entered the husband's bedroom as the husband +stated" You ain't going to believe this, but this is not a star. +That is something else." + +The light was moving in an erratic manner. When the husband went +outside and regained sight of the object, it appeared as a +definite conical shape. Unlike the wife's report, which stated +that the object was all white, the husband reported three colors +- blue on top, yellow in the middle and white on the lower third. + + +The husband's account and drawing indicated a more elongated +object with basically the same shaped top (more like an artillery +shell). His account indicates that at arms length, the object +was about 3/4 inches wide and about 1 1/8 inches tall. It is +possible that they were watching it change shape. + + +Each witness was interviewed separately. + +Witness number 2 described the light emitted by the craft +resembled an inverted gas flame on a kitchen range. The bottom +was darker than the rest of the craft, but her report indicates +the object must have either been tilted slightly or was higher +when she looked at it than when witness number 3 saw the shape. +She stated it was a pendulum motion or possibly rotated. + + +Witness number 4 stated that she was not wearing prescription +glasses at the time of the sighting, as she was required to wear +them normally, but she could see the light. She corroborated +what the others had said. + +They were asked if they had read any material on UFOs, they all +replied they had not. When asked if they watched TV and seen any +of the Unsolved Mysteries, Hard Copy, etc. shows on UFOs they all +replied yes. + +The witnesses were credible, each having a college background, +and had nothing to gain from the report. Based on what was said +and the statements of each person, the evidence looks reliable +and valid. + +(Note: This case is similar to a case in September, 1976, that +occurred in Tehran City, Iran.) + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2977.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2977.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ef27d53a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2977.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......SEPT 1992 FILE: UFO2977 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + CURRENT CASES...... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(From time to time, current, on-going cases which are being +investigated by MUFON Field Investigators will be posted.) + +Oklahoma MUFON: + +On September 7, 1992, at approximately 2 AM, in (near) the town +of Cushing, OK, Mr. and Mrs. _________ were settling down for the +evening. They had been watching video movies while resting in +bed, in their double-wide mobile home. Mrs. ______ rolled over +to look out to the yard when she saw that the sky was lit up +beyond the trees. + +She brought this to her husband's attention, who is a retired +U.S. Air Force Air Traffic Controller. With his curiosity +aroused, he left the bedroom to look out another window for a +better view. He went from window to window on the west side of +his mobile home. + +Once he found the best view of the object, which appeared to be +the source of the light, he was able to see a disc-shaped object, +tilted approximately 45 degrees from the lay of the land. Mr. +_____ described red and white lights, alternating around the rim +or edge of the object. He stated that the lights appeared to be +flashing in sequence, giving the lights the appearance that they +were moving in a "clockwise" direction. + + +The size of the disc appeared to be 2 times the size of a small +home. It hovered motionlessly, without a sound no ascension, no +decension, no sideways movement. + +As he continued to watch the object, it appeared to get smaller +in size, as if it were moving away in a south westerly direction. + +Then suddenly it disappeared, along with the lighted sky. + + +During this time, Mrs. _____ called her mother-in-law, who lives +approximately 1500 feet to the west of their home. Mrs. _____ +told her to not turn on her lights and to look carefully out the +windows. The mother-in-law was only able to see the lighted sky, +not the object, through the heavily tree-lined area around her +home. + +The whole episode lasted approximately 20 to 30 minutes. The +witnesses reported that nothing unusual happened electrically or +with their family dog. There was a motion detection security +light system, which was not set off. A "quiet" sound was heard. + + + +=END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2978.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2978.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9ce6e6f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2978.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......9/92 FILE: UFO2978 + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + CURRENT CASES...... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(From time to time, current, on-going cases which are being +investigated by MUFON Field Investigators will be posted.) + + +Oklahoma MUFON: + +9/15/92 CALUMET STEER FOUND MUTILATED + +The Canadian County Sheriff's Department is investigating the +mutilation death of a single head of cattle near Calumet. +Deputies reported that a woman living about 2 miles west of +Calumet found the hereford feeder steer dead in a field early +Sunday afternoon. + +The steer was one of several owned by an Okarche man who grazed +them on the property. Investigators speculate the animal may +have been killed by disgruntled hunters who have been thrown off +the woman's property in the past. The mutilation might have been +an attempt to disguise the deed as some kind of satanic ritual. + + +Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx also provided the following information: + +"About 15 years ago my husband was alive. He farmed 4 miles west +of Calumet town and he told me about finding circles in the +pasture." + +"I really don't know what year it was because he didn't tell when +he first found them. I had a U.F.O. book which had some pictures +of grass circles in it. These were not large circles like the +one's in the wheat fields we have been reading about the last few +years. I showed them to him and he said they were like the ones +he saw in his grass pasture. This was back about the time they +were finding a lot of mutilated cattle in Canadian County." + + +(NOTE: although the animal mutilation could be the work of local +people, this case uncovered an interesting fact, the discovery of +crop circles a number of years ago.) + +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2979.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2979.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a839d820 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2979.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +SUBJECT: RECENT CASES......OCTOBER 1992 FILE: UFO2979 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + RECENT CASES..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +(Recent UFO/related cases investigated by MUFON Field +investigators. For case determination, contact the appropriate +MUFON State Director.) + + +State:........... Louisiana +Date:............ October, 1992 +Location:........ Amite River +Case Description: + +October 1992. A college graduate in his mid-thirties was putting +out the garbage around 8:30 p.m. when he noticed a strange white +light an estimated 2 to 4 miles NE of his home, approximately +over the Amite River. + +The light appeared to be 400 to 500 feet high and about 100 to +200 feet above it was a red light, both stationary. + +Realizing there was no tower in that area and that the lights did +not resemble an aircraft or helicopter, he moved around the house +for a better view. During the approximate five minutes that he +watched, the red light twice suddenly jumped to a position well +to the left of it's location over the white light, remained there +a few seconds, then jumped back to it's original position. +Shortly after it's second move, both lights suddenly disappeared. + + +=END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2980.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2980.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..74f0152c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2980.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON UFO SIGHTING REPORT FEB 1993 FILE: UFO2980 + + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:39 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Source..............: UFO Intelligence Newsletter/NCS-281,4 +Date................: 10-01-92 +Time................: Evening +Location............: Gulf Breeze, FL +Hynek_Classification: Nocturnal Light +Witnesses...........: Three +Object_Sighted......: Orange Ball of Light +Sound...............: None +Duration............: - +Description.........: An orange ball of light, 20-30 feet in diameter, + was sighted in the sky. +=END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2981.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2981.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..86862383 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2981.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON UFO SIGHTING REPORT FEB 1993 FILE: UFO2981 + + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:41 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Source..............: UFO Intelligence Newsletter/IN MUFON +Date................: 10-01-92 +Time................: 2330 Hours +Location............: Bloomington, IN +Hynek_Classification: Nocturnal Light +Witnesses...........: Two +Object_Sighted......: Three Discs +Sound...............: None +Duration............: Two Minutes +Description.........: Three discs were observed in the sky from two + different locations, about twenty miles apart. +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2982.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2982.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8f37b969 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2982.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON UFO SIGHTING REPORT FEB 1993 FILE: UFO2982 + + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:41 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Source..............: UFO Intelligence Newsletter/IN MUFON +Date................: 10-02-92 +Time................: 2200 Hours +Location............: Stinesville, IN +Hynek_Classification: C-1 +Witnesses...........: Two, possibly more +Object_Sighted......: Lights +Sound...............: Jet +Duration............: Two minutes +Description.........: Sounds woke witness, who observed three large + circles of light. +=END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2983.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2983.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..98480e2f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2983.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON UFO SIGHTING REPORT FEB 1993 FILE: UFO2983 + + + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:40 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Source..............: UFO Intelligence Newsletter/NCS-281,4 +Date................: 10-09-92 +Time................: Dusk +Location............: Gulf Breeze, FL +Hynek_Classification: Nocturnal Light +Witnesses...........: One +Object_Sighted......: Disc +Sound...............: None +Duration............: - +Description.........: A saucer-shaped object was observed in the sky, + windows were observed along with a dome. +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2984.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2984.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d2a18ddf --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2984.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON UFO SIGHTING REPORT FEB 1993 FIEL: UFO2984 + + + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:47 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Source..............: UFO Intelligence Newsletter/NCS-280,2 +Date................: 10-09-92 +Time................: 2000 Hours +Location............: Staunton, VA +Hynek_Classification: Nocturnal Light +Witnesses...........: Multiple Witnesses +Object_Sighted......: Ball of Light +Sound...............: - +Duration............: - +Description.........: A green ball of light was observed in the sky. + +=END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2985.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2985.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9c07cdb5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2985.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON UFO SIGHTING REPORT FEB 1993 FILE: UFO2985 + + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:38 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Source..............: UFO Intelligence Newsletter/NCS-280,9 +Date................: 10-26-92 +Time................: 2130 Hours +Location............: Glendale, CA +Hynek_Classification: Nocturnal Light +Witnesses...........: Two +Object_Sighted......: Triangle +Sound...............: Low Hum +Duration............: - +Description.........: An huge, dark grey flat object was observed in + the sky, having red lights on the corners. +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2986.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2986.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..557b2598 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2986.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +SUBJECT: THE TEN MOST CREDIBLE UFOLOGISTS FILE: UFO2986 + + + + + THE TEN MOST CREDIBLE UFOLOGISTS + + + 1. Dr. Michael Swords, Ph.D + + Professor of Genetics and Life Sciences, Western Michigan +State University. Editor, Journal of UFO Studies (CUFOS). Areas +of Special Study: Possibilities of ET visitation based on the +Drake Equation; Refutation of Budd Hopkins' Genetic +Experimentation Theory of Abductions. + + 2. Dr. Thomas E. Bullard, Ph.D + + Degrees in Psychology, Folklore. Special contributor, +International UFO Reporter, Journal of UFO Studies. Author, +"Abductions: The Measure of a Mystery," a 600-page study of over +300 abduction cases, taking into account such possible +explanations as folkloric transmission, hypnotic confabulation, +etc. Dr. Bullard started as a skeptic, but remains unconvinced +by the skeptical explanations. Also compiled definitive +collection and analysis of 1890's airship wave. Recipient, +ParaNet's James E. McDonald Key, "For Outstanding +Achievement in the Advancement of Scientific Ufology," 1989. + + 3. Dr. Richard F. Haines, Ph.D + + Retired NASA Psychologist. Areas of Special Study: Pilot +Reports, Photo-analysis, Abduction Regression techniques. Author, +"The Melbourne Episode" about the disappearance of pilot +Frederick Valentich. + + 4. Dr. James E. McDonald (deceased) + + Meteorologist, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, +University of Arizona. Areas of Special Study: Electromagnetic +effects cases. Led efforts at Congressional Inquiry, scientific +analysis. + + 5. Richard Hall + +Science Writer; former Acting Director, NICAP; former Asst. +Director, MUFON. Areas of Special Study: Electromagnetic effects +cases, Radar trace cases. Author, "Uninvited Guests." Resigned +MUFON over Gulf Breeze case, Lear episode. Currently suffering +from Alan Hendry syndrome ("What's the Use?") + + 6. Donald Schmitt + +Director, Special Investigations, CUFOS. Areas of Special Study: +Refutation of Gulf Breeze evidence; First Roswell Archaeological +Expedition. + + 7. Ronald Story + +Science and Technical Writer. Areas of Special Study: Largely +responsible for debunking Ancient Astronaut theory. Author, "UFOs +and the Limits of Science," "The UFO Encyclopedia." + + 8. Barry Greenwood + + Postal worker. Director, Citizens Against UFO Secrecy. +Editor, Just Cause. Areas of Special Study: Procurement and +analysis of government documents. Outspoken critic of +unscientific UFO proponents. Performed major debunking of MJ-12. + + 9. John F. Schuessler + + Engineer, Shuttle Project Director, McDonnell-Douglas +Corporation. Asst. Director, MUFON. Areas of Special Study: +Cash-Landrum case. + + 10. Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Ph.D (Deceased) + +Astronomer, Northwestern University. Scientific Advisor to +Project BlueBook. Founder, Scientific Director, CUFOS. Areas of +Special Study: All areas. First major advocate of the application +of scientific methodology to UFO study. Created sighting +categories such as "Close Encounters." First major skeptic to +change sides. Lost some credibility due to indecisive nature, +acceptance of some questionable cases as valid. + + +____________ + +This file was originally prepared by ParaNet for use in a talk +given by Maj. James McGaha of CSICOP. We bequeath it to the +public domain. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2987.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2987.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6712ddd1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2987.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON UFO SIGHTING REPORT FEB 1993 FILE: UFO2987 + + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:38 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Source..............: UFO Intelligence Newsletter/NCS-280,12 +Date................: 11-03-92 +Time................: Evening +Location............: Marshall, AR +Hynek_Classification: Nocturnal Light +Witnesses...........: Multiple Witnesses +Object_Sighted......: Lights +Sound...............: None +Duration............: One Hour +Description.........: Lights in a triangle shape were observed in the + sky. The lights took off when a fighter + aircraft arrived. +=END= + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2988.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2988.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..926a687e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2988.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO IN COLORADO NOV 1992 FILE: UFO2988 + + + + +#: 61538 S16/UFOlogy/Contacts + 17-Jan-93 08:46:49 +Sb: #Request for your help +Fm: Mark Thomas 72700,2743 +To: David C Brune/SL16 70671,2063 + +David - + +This was reported in our local newspapers: On the morning of Nov. 6, 1992, +around 5:00 a.m. Carbondale, Colorado police were called by two people who +witnessed a UFO near town. The object was described as oval, white in color, +about 100 feet long, hovering over town for 10 to 20 minutes. It then sped +off at a high rate, disappearing behing Mt. Sopris to the southeast. (elev. +13,965 ft.). Neither witness was identified in the report, but one was said +to be well-know and highly respected in the community. BTW: Nov. 6th was my +wife's b-day, and she's had contact experience since at least age 11. + +Best of luck - +MARK + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2989.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2989.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c069e224 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2989.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,254 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO ONLINE CONFERENCE FILE: UFO2989 + + + + + This is the transcript of the informal UFO online conference + held on November 7, Saturday night. I have edited it somewhat + to make it more readable. Specifically, I've cut out the hellos + and goodbyes the ...'s, !'s, and GA's, moderator comments, and + some other material unrelated to the content of the discussion. + I've also taken the liberty of changing the order of a few of + the lines where more than one person was talking at once, in + order to keep the flow of the discussion sensible. + + I will e-mail the original unedited transcipt to anyone who + asks. Ron Holtz [71035,3440]. + + + Ron | So, Marc, you said something about a Ouiji board ? + + Marc | Yeh, about ten years ago We were "contacting"(I think) + | some aliens I know that sounds weird but at the time + | it seemed pretty serious. anyway, we were told that the + | reason they couldn't contact us was that they had evolved + | in much higher radiation and that their crafts were also + | very highly irradiated. + + Ron | Hmmm. Anyone care to comment on that ? + + Joseph | Guess not... + + Marc | oh well, guess not + + Ron | I can buy the part about higher radiation + | since that's a hazard of space travel. + + Frank T | Somthing I just thought of. Why is it that their + | craft crash i.e. thery're not omnipotent. + | and yet we don't have a sliver of evidence in adbduction + | cases. + + Joseph | Theory has it that everyone makes mistakes... in Roswell, + | the crash was precipitated by a storm the likes of which + | the locals there had never seen before. + + Frank T | Umm... What about other crashes? And Hopkins has just + | said that ext 2% of population are abductees. + | You'd think we'd have an alien head by now. + + susan | We do frank + + Joseph | 2%?? I think Hopkins is over-estimating IMHO + + Frank T | Hey Susan where? + + Ron | The famous hanger 18, Susan ? + + susan | Hi guys are you speaking of ufo abductions? + + Joseph | Susan pegged it Frank, rumor has it that several alien + | bodies were recovered at the Roswell sight, and one may + | have survived a short while. + + susan | Actually I know of a Roswell victim reincarnate + | That's him + + Joseph | Reincarnated? + + susan | Yes + + Joseph | [No comment] + + Al | Frank, you are attempting to make a point, what is it? + + susan | His name is Jerry Wills and lives in Phoenix + + Frank T | Whay doesn't someone kill one in there bedroom? + + Joseph | Eh? Kill an alien, or kill a human? + + Frank T | I meant why hasn't anyone killed a grey in their bedroom. + | ANy comments? + + Ron | Ed Walters supposed was armed in several of his encounters. + + susan | Roswell accident was due to surveillance of Air Force Nuclear + | explosions not abductions + + Joseph | They weren't viewing the actual explosions theory has it + | they were checking out the base itself. It was currently + | the only Atomic bomb base in the USA at the time. + + Frank T | What atomic explosions? + + Marc | Do you mind if I take a pole? + + Ron | IF you mean a poll, tell me what you have in mind. + + Marc | ploe, poll, you know what I meant,... + + Ron | + + Marc | I am just wondering who in this room believes in alien visits. + + Marc | I do + + Ron | Marc has suggested a poll on who believes that we're being + | visited by aliens. + + Ron | I am not sure, personally, but the stories are beleivable. + + Joseph | in other words that's a yes + + Brad | I'm willing to believe, but am not well informed. + + Frank T | I'm confused + + Leo | How about "Have _been_ being visited" (like for how long?) + + Frank T | yeah + + susan | are we voting ...yes + + Joseph | Leo you asked about how long we've been visited. + | There are ancient (as in Egyptian Pharoa times) drawings + | and depictions many have interpreted as being those of + | aliens. There is one in particular (memory fails) + | A drawing depicting a person in a space suit reclined + | in an acceleration chair... (It looks a lot like an + | astronaut). + + susan | joseph is talking of palenque in mexico + + Joseph | + + susan | but the face on mars + | along with the pyramids are probably 5 million + | years precession of the equinoxes indicate about 600000 + | years since the great pyramid was built...guess so + + Al | Susan, face on mars vs pyramids on earth + | last I knew great pyramid of cheops is aprox 2,600 BC. + | No estimate available for face on mars if its anything at all. + + Ron | There's a Mars Observer satellite on it's way to Mars right + | now, btw, so about a year from now we should have close-up + | pictures. + + Frank T | My friend just finished a job at a company that he says + | he thinks does some type of alien research and they worked + | on the recent mars probe. And that the probe is going to + | Mars specifically to look at the face region. FWIW. + + Ron | Specifically ? + + Joseph | Neg on the specifically. + | Mars sat is going to map the entire planet and was in the + | design phase prior to the pics ever surfacing (Face that is) + + Ron | What is this face supposed to be, I'd never heard of it + | before ? + + Joseph | The "Face" is a picture found while the last orbital sat + | was over mars it looks a LOT like a human face looking + | up into the heavens. If you've ever seen the Easter Island + | statues, blow them up about 100 times, and you'll get an + | idea as to it's size. there are also several apparent + | pyramids in the same area. + + Frank T | Joe, I've seen pictures of the face going back quite a while + | ago not sure how long though but it's gotta be 10 - 15 years. + + susan | the pyramids on mars are in about the same alignment as the + | giza pyramids in egypt they are proportionately spaced and + | also include a five sided pyramid based onthe harmonics of + | the golden mean in addition to the face. also it might + | interest you to know the the name Cairo in arabic means Mars + + Ron | Susan, aligned how ? + + susan | the same as the giza pyramids are aligned to where magnetic + | north is + + Al | egypt pyramids are aligned to TRUE NORTH, not magnetic north. + + Marc | Any comments on the Gulf Breeze sightings anyone? + + Joseph | Gulf Breeze: The jury is still out. There are too many + | credible witnesses to write the whole thing off as a hoax, + | however, some of the photos appear to have been faked, and + | the fact that a model of the ufo was found in the attic of + | the original photographer didn't help his credibility any. + + Ron | The gulf breeze case is what got me interested in UFOs again + | after I read Ed Walter's book a few months ago. + | At first, I was floored, especially because the physicist + | Maccabbee wrote the chapter on the photo analysis + | and it all made sense at first but the more I thought + | about it the more problems I started having + | so I'm not sure at all any more. + + Marc | The images looked like holograms to me...? + + Al | I agree with you Ron, but do not give up on UFO issues in + | general the issues of animal mutilations... + | adbuctions... sightings... so forth are too numerous and + | varied so, yes alot of hoaxing is going on, but still + | something is occuring and its not just weirdos or pranksters. + + Ron | Oh, I intend to get to the bottom of all this Al, some day + | but as you note, it's a problem sorting out what to believe + | or not and there's a need for "common sense" as you've + | mentioned before. + + Joseph | A quick note on mutilations: Have any of you seen "Sneakers" + | or counted how many times Dan Akroyd stated: "Cattle + | Mutilations are up this year" ? + + Ron | No, haven't seen that, but I HAVE heard that cattle + | mutilations have increased this year. David B says there's + | a cattle mutliation "flap" in Missourri this past summer. + + Al | The mutilation stuff is fasinating, especially once you've + | seen some photgraphs of the animals taken by police in the + | more remote farms that do not really have reason to fake + | something. + | Anyway, just a question anyone payinmg attention to crop + | circles in England this year? + + Joseph | First: This year no, circles in general yes. Second: + | Mutilations are definitly up, and I've had reports of + | mutilations recently in Sacramento Ca, as well as numerous + | sightings.(UFOS). + | Third: Take everything with a grain of salt. (in the ufology + | world) Hoaxers abound out there trying to make a quick buck + | IMHO: If they are trying to sell you UFO stuff, more than + | likely that UFO stuff is bogus. It's the unsolicited reports + | that have the most credibility, and are the most intriguing. + + Ron | But on the cattle mutilations in Sacramento, how recently, + | and were they cattle or something else + + Joseph | I -believe- they were indeed cattle. I used to live there, + | and this was reported to me by a friend of mine. The + | sightings were as recent as last month. + + (Conference ended at this point). + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2990.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2990.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e313255a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2990.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON UFO SIGHTING REPORT FEB 1993 FILE: UFO2990 + + + + + * Forwarded from "MUFON_PUBLIC" + * Originally by John Komar + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 2 Feb 1993, 2:46 + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO SIGHTING REPORT + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Source..............: UFO Intelligence Newsletter/NH MUFON +Date................: 11-27-92 +Time................: 0220 Hours +Location............: Goffstown, NH +Hynek_Classification: Nocturnal Light +Witnesses...........: Three +Object_Sighted......: Egg-shaped +Sound...............: None +Duration............: - +Description.........: Two egg-shaped objects were sighted in the sky. + The large end moved first, moved South East. +=END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2991.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2991.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4bdc8f5a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2991.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: UFOBASE SIGHTING JAN 1993 FILE: UFO2991 + + + +MSGID: 1:123/26.1@fidonet.org 10068812 + * Forwarded from "SKYWATCH" + * Originally by Odyssey Ufobase + * Originally to All + * Originally dated 21 Jan 1993, 6:52 + + ________________ + /UFOBASE 4.0 (c) \ +ÚÄÄÄ/ Sighting \ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ Announcement ³ +³ ------------ ³ +³ UFO Shape: LIGHTS ³ +³ Date Sighted: 11/29/92 ³ +³ City/County : EVANSVILLE ³ +³ State : IN ³ +³ Time : 7:00 PM ³ +³ Hynek Classification : NL ³ +³ Witnesses : 1 ³ +³ Sound : NONE ³ +³ Duration : MINUTES ³ +³ Comments : ³ +³ 4 LIGHTS ON REAR OF OBJECT, NOT AIRCRAFT, SLOW, H.A. ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2992.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2992.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..51d784ea --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2992.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +SUBJECT: LAZAR'S UFO DRIVE MECHANISM FILE: UFO2992 + + + + + Lazar's UFO drive mechanism seems highly improbable +according to current physics. While element 115 may +eventually be synthesized, it is not expected to have any +isotopes with half lifes longer than 10-2 to 1 second. +Even the most stable superheavy elements are expected +to have half-lives of the order of a few days maximum. + The second problem is making 115. Current nuclear +chemistry experiments have stalled around 109 or possibly +110 as the production rate gets too low. The problem is that +such elements cannot be built up from lighter ones by successive +neutron capture in reactors or in nature in supernovas because +the fission half-lives around 94-100 become too short. Hence +they have to be made by fusing heavy nuclei (U, Pu, or higher) +with medium sized nuclei such as Ca, Fe, etc. To get such +nuclei with their high electric charges to fuse requires so +much energy that the compound nucleus fissions before it +can evaporate enough neutrons to deexcite to a stable state. + Finally, there is no reason to believe that 116 would +decay into antimatter. The total kinetic energy released by +the fission of a nucleus of 116 is estimated to be about +250 to 300 MEV. An antiproton or antineutron has a mass of +about 940 MEV with the positron or antielectron about 1/1800 +of this. So even assuming there was a plausible route not +violating any known conservation laws, there is not enough +energy in the decay of superheavy nuclei to generate atoms +of antimatter. + Also, Lazar's physics is suspect. While some theories +predict that gravity and the strong nuclear force are aspects +of the same force, the energy level of unification, the point +at which they become indistinguishable, is about 10 to the 15th +GEV. Current accelerators are <= about 1000 GEV, far above the +energies available in atomic nuclei. + With our technology, scaling up by a factor of 10 to +the 12th would mean building a machine whose circumference +is about that of the Milky Way galaxy. If we had access to a +technology that could reduce this scale to vehicular dimensions, +do you really think we would even consider building something +as primitive as the SSC. + Gravitons are not out of vogue theoretically, but they +have never been observed due to the weakness of their interaction +with matter. If the LIGO or similar gravitational wave observatories +are built, they will provide the first direct evidence for gravitons +or rather the wave-like aspect of gravitational radiation, which +is equivalent to the particle aspect by the Correspondence +Principle. Gravitation is about 39 orders of magnitude weaker +than the strong nuclear force so even though the SNF may have +gravity-like properties, they are unobservable even at nuclear +energies. + Antimatter per se has not yet been made in the +laboratory although both positrons and antiprotons are +made routinely in accelerators and stored. The difficulty lies in +cooling both components down sufficiently and mixing them to produce +antihydrogen while still confining them and the resulting neutral +atoms. It should be doable and I would expect the announcement +to be made at any time. However, these experiments will produce +only a few atoms at a time, nowhere near enough for bombs or +space vehicle fuel. + Lazar is correct that fission and fusion bombs release +only a very small fraction of the total available energy. The +problem here is confinement; the bombs destroy themselves and +the density of fissionable and fusionable materials drop too low +for the reactions to procede. Similar problems would exist with +matter -antimatter reactions as well. It has been predicted that +matter and antimatter stars might just bounce off each other as +the annihilation energy released as their outer atmospheres touched +would push them apart before more than a fraction of their masses +had been consumed. They might, however, be sufficiently disrupted +by the shock and acceleration that their cores would be exposed, +producing two novas. In any case, the collision would be spectacular, +even if it did not result in mutual annihilation. + Even if one could 'distort space time' what is to prevent +the distortion from affecting the vehicle and its crew? There +might very well be strong gravitational tidal effects which would +destroy both in the process as a space-time distortion would look +like a very strong and inhomogeneous gravitational field. Creating +and terminating such 'distortions' would probably generate +gravitational radiation. Such strong fields might also create +Hawking radiation and be visible to outsiders, if not lethal +to the crew. 'Worm holes,' which might be what Lazar means +by these distortions, might very well actually be longer and +slower routes. Lazar needs to think this one through further. + It is difficult to design a gravitational wave amplifier as +it would require a source of energy to power a gravitational +wave generator that could respond to incoming GW's and draw +on this energy to generate new waves of increased amplitude. +Perhaps orbiting black holes might contract their orbits in +response to a passing GW and generate a stronger replica wave +if the phases were right. If the black holes were electrically +charged, then perhaps electrical energy could be converted to GW's. +There are some severe technical constraints, however. Are there +any engineer/physicists out there who want to try designing a +GW amplifier? + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2993.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2993.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..16a65f7b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2993.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +SUBJECT: UFOBASE SIGHTING DEC 1992 FILE: UFO2993 + + + + ________________ + /UFOBASE 4.0 (c) \ +ÚÄÄÄ/ Sighting \ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ Announcement ³ +³ ------------ ³ +³ UFO Shape: LIGHTS ³ +³ Date Sighted: 12/02/92 ³ +³ City/County : SIDNEY ³ +³ State : ME ³ +³ Time : 11:30 PM ³ +³ Hynek Classification : NL ³ +³ Witnesses : MULTIPLE ³ +³ Sound : NONE ³ +³ Duration : X ³ +³ Comments : ³ +³ MAN VIDEOTAPED 2 H.S. OBJECTS ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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The RLD (RijksLuchtvaartdienst += the Dutch Civil Aeronautics Board) is investigating the +phenomenon. + +=END= + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2996.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2996.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..89a70b2d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2996.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +SUBJECT: CRASHED DISCS 12,000 YRS AGO FILE: UFO2996 + + + + +\\\\\\\\\\\ INTERSTING THEORY OF CRASHED DISCS 12,000 yrs AGO \\\\\\\\ + + High in the mountains of BayanKara-Ula, on the boarders of China and +Tibet - a team of archeologists were conducting a very detailed routine +survey of a series of interlinked caves. + Their interests had been excited by the discovery of lines of neatly +arranged graves which contained the skeletons of what must have been a +strange race of human beings; strange because they had unnaturally spindly +bodies and large, overdeveloped heads. + At first, it had been thought that the caves had been the home of a +hitherto unkown species of ape. But as the leader of the team - the Chinese +archeologist, Professor Chi Pu Tei - pointed out, "Who ever heard of apes +burying each other?" + It was while studying the skeletons that one of the team stumbled on a +large, round stone disk, half buried in the dust on the floor of the cave. + The team gathered round the discovery, turning it this way and that. +It looked, absurdly, like a kind of 'Stone Age Gramophone record'. There was +a hole in the center and a fine, spiral groove radiated to the rim. + Closer inspection, however, showed that the groove was, in fact, a +continous spiralling line of closely written characters. + The object was a 'record' ... in more ways then one. Only nobody at the +time - the year was 1938 - possessed the key to its incredible message. The +disc was labeled and filed away among other finds in the area. Even those who +knew of its existence knew nothing of its meaning. + + Many experts tried to translate the hieroglyphs in the 20 years the disc +languished in Peking. They all failed. It was not until another professor - +Dr. Tsum Um Nui - broke the code and started to decipher the 'speaking +grooves' that the extraordinary implications of the disc were realized. +Realized, that is, only by only a select few. The outside world remained in +ignorance. For the professor's conclusions on the meaning of the disc were +so shattering that they were offically suppressed. The Peking Academy of +Pre-History forbade him to publish his findings. + Two years later, in 1965, the professor and four of his colleagues were +finally given permission to reveal their theory. It appeared under the long- +winded but intriguing title, "The Grooved Script concerning Space-ships +which, +as recorded on the Discs, landed on Earth 12,000 years ago". + The 'records' - 716 of the grooved discs were later uncovered in the +same +caves - told an astonishing story of a 'space probe' by the inhabitants of +another planet which came to grief in the Bayan-Kara-Ula mountain range. The +strange, spiral script told how the peaceful intentions of the 'aliens' had +been misunderstood and how many of them were hunted down and killed by +members +of the Ham tribe, who lived in the neighboring caves. + + According to Tsum Um Nui, one of the lines of the hieroglyphs read, "The +Dropas came down from the clouds in their aircraft. Our men, women and +children hid in the caves ten times before sunrise. When at last they +understood the sign language of the Dropas, they realized that the newcomers +had peaceful intentions...". + Another section expressed 'regret' by the Ham tribe that the aliens' +spaceship had crash-landed in such a remote and inaccessible mountains and +that there had been no way to building a new one to enable Dropas to return +to their own planet. + In the years since the discovery of the first disc, archeologists and +anthropologists had learned more about the isolated Bayan-Kara-Ula area. +And much of the information seemed to corroborate the bizarre story recorded +on the discs. + Legend still preserved in the area spoke of small, gaunt, yellow faced +men who 'came from the clouds, long, long ago'. The men had huge, bulging +heads and puny bodies and were so ugly and repellent that they were hounded +down by local tribesmen on horseback. Strangely, the description of the +'invaders' tallied with the skeletons orginally discovered in the caves by +Professor Chi Pu Tei. + On the walls of the caves themselves archeologists had uncovered crude +pictures of the rising Sun, the Moon, unidentifiable stars and the Earth... +all joined together by lines of pea-sized dots. Along with the discs, the +cave drawings had been dated around 12,000 years old. + + The cave area was still inhabited by two semi-troglodyte tribes known as +the Hams and the Dropas, themselves extremely odd in appearance. The frail +and +stunted tribesmen averaged only about five feet in height and were neither +typically Chinese nor Tibetan. "Their racial back-ground," said one expert, +"is a mystery." + But even with the publications of Professor Tsum Um Nui's amazing trans- +lation, the story of the 'space discs' was not over. Russian scientists asked +to see the discs and several were sent to Moscow for examination. + They were scraped free of rock particles which had stuck to them and +then put through chemical analysis. To the suprise of the scientists, they we +found to contain large amounts of cobalt and other metallic substances. That +was not all. When placed on a special turntable - according to Dr. +Vyatcheslav +Saizev, who described the experiments in the Soviet magazine Sputnik - they +vibrated or 'hummed' in an unusual rhythm as though an electic charge was +passing through them. Or as one scientist suggested, "as if they formed some +part of an electrical circuit." At some time, they had clearly been exposed +to extraordinarily high votages. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2997.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2997.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5362845d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2997.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +SUBJECT: ROSWELL ERA REVISITED...... FILE: UFO2997 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + ROSWELL ERA REVISITED..... + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + File: 1947.SIT + SOURCE: UFO Information Service - SUBJECT: Self-explanatory + + Statistical Chart, by States, For June and July, 1947 +________________________________________________________________ + Time of Sighting Number of Objects + + +ST Cases Day Night Unk Single Multiple Unknown Witnesses +___ _____ ___ _____ ___ ______ ________ _______ _________ + +CA 109 74 16 19 50 53 6 465 +WA 83 72 9 2 37 43 3 178 +OR 54 49 5 - 26 28 - 110 +ID 43 39 4 - 27 16 - 510 +IL 40 19 12 9 21 19 - 74 + +CO 36 30 5 1 19 15 2 80 +OH 29 10 16 3 14 13 2 150 +AL 28 4 23 1 6 22 - 75 +WI 27 11 15 1 20 7 - 58 +TX 27 12 9 6 19 6 2 50 + +MO 25 19 5 1 13 12 - 79 +AZ 23 18 3 2 13 9 1 47 +MI 19 8 7 4 9 9 1 560 +NM 17 16 1 - 13 3 1 31 +UT 16 12 3 1 9 7 - 41 + +NJ 15 6 8 1 10 5 - 125 +AR 15 10 3 2 11 4 - 22 +IA 14 9 3 2 8 6 - 22 +MA 14 7 3 4 5 9 - 20 +OK 14 11 3 - 11 3 - 28 + +KY 14 5 8 1 8 6 - 28 +IN 13 5 5 3 5 7 1 31 +PA 13 6 5 2 9 4 - 35 +SC 13 10 3 - 10 3 - 30 +MD 10 3 7 - 5 5 - 17 + +FL 10 6 4 - 5 5 - 22 +NC 10 5 5 - 8 2 - 20 +WY 8 5 3 - 6 2 - 11 +LA 8 6 1 1 4 4 - 18 +TN 8 6 2 - 7 1 - 12 + +CT 8 4 2 2 1 7 - 18 +NE 8 4 4 - 6 2 - 15 +KS 7 3 4 - 5 2 - 18 +NY 7 5 2 - 5 2 - 13 +NV 7 5 1 1 5 2 - 37 + +NH 6 3 3 - 3 3 - 13 +ME 6 2 4 - 1 5 - 15 +SD 5 4 1 - 4 1 - 7 +MS 5 1 1 3 1 4 - 5 +VT 4 - 4 - 4 - - 5 + +MN 4 2 1 1 4 - - 5 +VA 3 2 1 - 2 1 - 15 +MT 2 1 1 - - 2 - 4 +ND 2 2 - - 2 - - 4 +D.C. 2 2 - - 1 1 - 3 + +RI 1 - 1 - 1 - - 1 +DE 1 1 - - 1 1 - 1 +AK 1 1 - - 1 - - 3 +HI 1 1 - - 1 - - 100 +Can. 18 10 5 3 12 3 3 52 + ____ _____ ______ ____ ______ ________ _______ ________ + +TTL 853 546 231 76 468 363 22 3283 + + Cases Daytime Night Unk Single Multiple Unk Witnesses + +--- + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2998.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2998.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..478d05c7 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2998.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +SUBJECT: THE ZONE OF SILENCE FILE: UFO2998 + + + + +- + This area is known as the ZONE OF SILENCE some 350 +miles directly west of Brownsville Texas. According +Professor Harry De La Pena, the Zone is one of the +strangest, frightening, and eerie places. He is president of +the Institute of Science and Technology in Laguna Mexico. +The reports from the Zone: + 1) Strange magnetic radiation that may affect life +forms; + 2) Purple cacti and trees seen nowhere else in the +world; + 3) Mutant albino insects growing to more than a foot +in length; + 4) Giant UFOs that buzz villages surrounding the +Zone; + 5) Strange earth platforms going up hundreds of +feet from the desert; + 6) Showers of meteorites raining daily. + The ZONE OF SILENCE got its name by scientists who +first discovered its strange magnetic properties. They found +that radio waves couldn't enter or leave the area. It's like +a terrestrail black hole. If in the Zone, there's no link to +the outside world. You seem to be on your own. + The late rocket scientist, Wernher von Braun, +visited the Zone in 1970. There are 100's UFO reports from +the Zone each year. The platforms weren't made by nature. +They seem to have made by extraterrestrials for some sort +UFO function. + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2999.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2999.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d517db40 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/2000/2999.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +SUBJECT: 1 IN 40 REPORT CLOSE ENCOUNTER, POLL FINDS FILE: UFO2999 + + + + + + +ÚÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄ¿ +³o³1 IN 40 REPORT CLOSE ENCOUNTER, POLL FINDS ³o³ +³o³ ³o³ +³o³ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE, Little Rock, AR May 14, 1992 ³o³ +³o³ ³o³ +³o³A national survey released Tuesday says one of every 40 ³o³ +³o³adult Americans may have had an experience of being abducted³o³ +³o³by an unidentified flying object. The survey, conducted last³o³ +³o³summer by the Roper Organization, suggests that 3.6 million ³o³ +³o³Americans have experienced at least four of these ³o³ +³o³"expericnces related to a typical UFO abduction": Awaking ³o³ +³o³paralyzed, sensing a strange figure or presence in the room.³o³ +³o³Experiencing an hour or more of "missing time." Feeling ³o³ +³o³like you are actually flying through the air without knowing³o³ +³o³why or how. Seeing unusual lights or balls of light in a ³o³ +³o³room without understanding what caused them. ³o³ +³o³Discovering puzzling scars on your body, without ³o³ +³o³remembering how or why they got there. (KRTN) ³o³ + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. 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Description of the Textfile
3000.ufo 1804
 GUESS WHEN THE FIRST SAUCER WAS SIGHTED +
3001.ufo 1719
 UFO SHOW TO 'BIZARE' TO CONVINCE POLICEMAN +
3002.ufo 2303
 EXCERPT FROM ANGELS AND ALIENS +
3003.ufo 7624
 GRAVITATIONAL WAVE SEARCH +
3004.ufo 1911
 40 ANIMALS WITH MALE ORGANS RIPPED OUT +
3005.ufo 4279
 UFOBASE SIGHTING ASSORTED DATES +
3006.ufo 4356
 UFOBASE SIGHTING ASSORTED DATES +
3007.ufo 2289
 DISTANCE THAT UFO'S TRAVEL TO GET HERE +
3008.ufo 15475
 THE ISSUES FORUM 06/28/92 +
3009.ufo 1649
 73% OF SCIENTISTS BELIEVE IN UFOs! +
3010.ufo 3618
 SEVEN INTELLIGENCES INTERRELATED +
3011.ufo 7311
 UFOBASE SIGHTING ANNOUNCEMENT ASSORTED DATES +
3012.ufo 4080
 1991 SUMMARY RECAP DATA - UFO SIGHTINGS +
3013.ufo 48761
 THE 1992 CANADIAN UFO SURVEY +
3014.ufo 5595
 LONG DISTANCE CALL FROM EARTH +
3015.ufo 2085
 SIGHTING REPORT A22C1 +
3016.ufo 2452
 DON'T ABANDON THE SEARCH FOR LIFE +
3017.ufo 8437
 IS THERE AN ALIEN BASE UNDER PUERTO RICO ? +
3018.ufo 13086
 ABDUCTED BY ALIENS ? +
3019.ufo 26805
 A STRANGE CONNECTION +
3020.ufo 3347
 QUERIES ABOUT OUTERSPACE +
3021.ufo 3216
 HYPNOTHERAPISTS WORKING WITH ABDUCTEES/CONTACTEES +
3035.ufo 18118
 AM I IMAGINING IT ALL ? +
3036.ufo 36746
 AM I AN ABDUCTEE ? +
3037.ufo 10476
 ABDUCTION INVESTIGATION +
3038.ufo 55331
 THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI +
3039.ufo 43488
 THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI +
3040.ufo 51778
 THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI +
3041.ufo 72349
 OMNI ARTICLE: ABDUCTIONS +
3042.ufo 2465
 THE EVIDENCE FOR ALIEN ABDUCTIONS +
3043.ufo 1274
 ABDUCTION NOTES BY JOHN CARPENTER +
3044.ufo 1673
 OMNI ABDUCTEE OPPRESSION +
3045.ufo 4316
 ADVENT'S REPLY TO PARANET +
3046.ufo 12047
 ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE CLASSIFICATION +
3047.ufo 1050
 ZIMBABWE, AFRICA +
3048.ufo 9112
 THE SOUTH AFRICAN UFO CRASH RETRIEVAL INCIDENT +
3049.ufo 2994
 CALL FOR ABSTRACTS, AIR FORCE STUDY +
3050.ufo 3821
 ALIENS ATTEND FUNERAL +
3051.ufo 1830
 ANCHORAGE, AK. +
3053.ufo 31845
 THE BIELEK INTERVIEW +
3054.ufo 897
 ALAMAGORDO (NM) --UFO SIGHTINGS +
3055.ufo 4090
 HORSE-SAUCER MYSTERY GETS EVEN WEIRDER +
3056.ufo 4626
 AN ALIENABLE RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT UFOs +
3057.ufo 93331
 ALIEN ABDUCTION OR ALIEN PRODUCTIONS? +
3058.ufo 4751
 ALIENS ON MARS ? +
3059.ufo 5809
 SHOWEN : 3STAR +
3060.ufo 3689
 ALIEN EXPERIENCE +
3061.ufo 2420
 ALIEN ON ICE +
3062.ufo 3146
 YOUR CO-WORKER COULD BE A SPACE ALIEN +
3063.ufo 2303
 VARIOUS ALIEN DESCRIPTIONS +
3064.ufo 7036
 ALBERT EINSTEINS UNIFIED FIELD THEORY +
3065.ufo 3273
 THE ALLEN NEWS PAPER ARTICLE +
3066.ufo 4149
 THE TRUTH ABOUT ALTERNATIVE 3 +
3067.ufo 9428
 COUNTER MEASURES FOR MEN IN BLACK ENCOUNTERS +
3068.ufo 4550
 WHAT SEMITISM AND UFOLOGY HAVE IN COMMON +
3069.ufo 11854
 HIGH STRANGENESS IN THE ANTELOPE VALLEY +
3070.ufo 2494
 EUREKA SPRINGS, ARK. +
3071.ufo 228173
 ASSORTED WORLD WIDE AP REPORTS +
3072.ufo 2313
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3073.ufo 8446
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3074.ufo 7213
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3075.ufo 5433
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3076.ufo 5307
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3077.ufo 5654
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3078.ufo 11715
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3079.ufo 3438
 RELEASE OF CLASSIFIED MATERIAL +
3080.ufo 8444
 THE AQUARIUM CONSPIRACY +
3081.ufo 6382
 AQUARIUM UPDATE +
3082.ufo 8558
 REQUEST FOR ABDUCTION REPORTS AND ACCOUNTS +
3083.ufo 5687
 REFERENCE REPORT ON MJ-12 +
3084.ufo 3666
 UFO SOURCES - GOVERNMENT ARCHIVES DIVISION +
3085.ufo 7260
 TOURISTS PAY $99 EACH, HOPING FOR CLOSE ENCOUNTER IN NEVADA DESERT +
3086.ufo 5809
 ARIZONA SIGHTING +
3087.ufo 6129
 ARIZONA SIGHTING +
3088.ufo 4281
 ARIZONA SIGHTING +
3089.ufo 20062
 ARIZONA SIGHTING +
3090.ufo 12649
 LIGHTS SEEN UNDER THE SEA +
3091.ufo 3280
 ATTENTION SCIENTIST AND SCHOLARS !!! +
3092.ufo 1472
 UFO RESEARCH INSTITUTE OF CANADA - UFORIC +
3093.ufo 24004
 SECRET MACH 6 SPY PLANE +
3094.ufo 7331
 SECRET AIRCRAFT +
3096.ufo 5712
 AURORA AND AREA 51 +
3097.ufo 7520
 RUMORS OF US SUPERPLANE APPEAR UNFOUNDED +
3098.ufo 13732
 MORE ON AURORA +
3099.ufo 8601
 EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE +
3100.ufo 3717
 EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE +
3101.ufo 7027
 EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE +
3102.ufo 6080
 MYSTERY CRAFT HAUNT CALIFORNIA AIR BASES +
3103.ufo 6888
 DENIAL AND DISINFORMATION +
3104.ufo 9643
 AIR FORCE ABONDONED SR-71 +
3105.ufo 6313
 THE ART OF BLACK MAGIC - STEALTH TECHNOLOGY +
3106.ufo 1902
 THIS ONE IS WILD !! +
3107.ufo 1507
 SECRET US AIRPLANE FLIES 5,280 MP +
3108.ufo 4604
 NEW SECRET SPY PLANE IN ACTION +
3109.ufo 3756
 NEW SPY PLANE FLIES EIGHT TIMES THE SPEED OF SOUND +
3110.ufo:SUBJECT 0
 WHY SUPER SPY AIRCRAFT STILL A SECRET ? +
3111.ufo 4005
 MORE ON SECRET PLANE - LONDON +
3112.ufo 1475
 MYSTERIOUS AIRCRAFT & 747 NEAR MISS +
3113.ufo 9376
 PLANE HITS 5,500 MILES AN HOUR +
3114.ufo 1829
 MYSTERY TREMOR FELT IN WEST VIRGINIA +
3115.ufo 2197
 NEW 'PULSER' SIGHTINGS +
3116.ufo 8381
 AUTOPSY REPORT # 2 +
3117.ufo 4326
 GENERATION OF BALL LIGHTNING +
3118.ufo 5383
 GREAT BALLS OF STEAM +
3119.ufo 7310
 SHOULD THE PUBLIC KNOW ALL ABOUT UFOs ? +
3120.ufo 3240
 UNKNOWN HAPPENINGS/PARANORMAL/PSYCHIC EVENTS +
3121.ufo 3242
 UNKNOW HAPPENINGS/PARANORMAL/PSYCHIC EVENTS +
3122.ufo 3242
 UNKNOWN HAPPENINGS/PARANORMAL/PSYCHIC EVENTS +
3123.ufo 1074
 ANIMAL MUTILATION STORY +
3124.ufo 2017
 CURIOUS EXPERIENCE LAST NIGHT +
3125.ufo 1540
 A CONTACTEE +
3126.ufo 5813
 SPACE/ASTRONOMY/UFO/ASTRAL EVENTS +
3127.ufo 921
 1966 SIGHTINGS PEAK 1,060 +
3128.ufo 1957
 1969 BLUE BOOK CLOSES +
3129.ufo 3082
 I REMEMBER WAY BACK IN MID 1971 +
3130.ufo 13035
 BEYOND THE BELGIAN FLAP--UFOs AND EUROPOLITICS +
3131.ufo 32194
 GULF BREEZE: A THOUGHTFUL OPINION +
3132.ufo 4129
 BELGIAN SKIES SOUTH-EAST OF BRUSSELS +
3133.ufo 5918
 IT HAPPENS IN THE BEST CIRCLES +
3134.ufo 45259
 DR. BETER AUDIO LETTER +
3135.ufo 2277
 THE BETTY CASH UFO ENCOUNTER +
3136.ufo 3182
 THE BELIEVERS GATHER +
3137.ufo:SUBJECT 0
 WOMAN TELLS OF UFO IN 73 ON U.S. 31 +
3138.ufo: 0
 THE BIEFIELD-BROWN ANTI-GRAVITY EFFECT +
3139.ufo 14710
 HIGH STRANGENESS IN FRANCE +
3140.ufo 2716
 UFO IN THE BIG BEND COUNTRY OF TEXAS +
3141.ufo 8949
 WHAT IS HAPPENING ? +
3142.ufo 20405
 TRANSCRIPT FROM LECTURE BY JEROME CLARK +
3143.ufo 2408
 CATTLE OWNERS ON ALERT AFTER MUTILATIONS +
3144.ufo 5960
 ENTER THE GRAY ALIENS +
3145.ufo 4502
 A LINKAGE RE: WACKENBUT/BLACK HELICOPTERS/UFOs +
3146.ufo 2598
 MORE OF THE STRAIGHT DOPE +
3147.ufo 6960
 TAMPA BAY SKEPTICS REPORT +
3148.ufo 29479
 BOB OECHSLER TRANSCRIPT +
3149.ufo 1856
 BOEING FIELD +
3150.ufo 9974
 THE ALIEN "BOOGER" MENACE +
3151.ufo 6739
 BOOKS AVAILABLE FROM UFO PHOTO ARCHIVES +
3152.ufo 2489
 THE SANDY BARBRE STORY +
3153.ufo 2880
 SIGHTING AND ABDUCTION IN SARNIA +
3154.ufo 3430
 20 SIGNS OF CLOSE EXTRATERRESTIAL ENCOUNTER +
3155.ufo 9321
 H SUB 1 = PROJECT FIDO +
3156.ufo: 0
 DON ECHER'S SHOW "UFOs TONITE" +
3157.ufo 5167
 THERAPIST SUED IN "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS" +
3158.ufo 18533
 THOMAS TOWNSEND BROWN +
3159.ufo 22096
 THOMAS TOWNSEND BROWN +
3160.ufo 7883
 DEAR MR HOPKINS +
3161.ufo 9729
 SECRET LIFE +
3162.ufo 3159
 SOVIET SCIENTISTS FOUND SAUCER IN ESTONIA +
3163.ufo 2719
 SIGHTING IN SARATOGA CALIFORNIA +
3164.ufo 1554
 CALVIN PARKER +
3165.ufo 126907
 THE UFO CAMOUFLAGE THREAD +
3166.ufo 5555
 CANADA'S ABDUCTION SCENE +
3167.ufo 3221
 GOLDEN EARS MOUNTAIN UFO UPDATE +
3168.ufo 48332
 THE 1992 CANADIAN UFO SURVEY +
3169.ufo 3477
 CANING ALIENS OR SHAPING FUTURE? +
3170.ufo 29276
 UFOs AND MIND CONTROL +
3171.ufo 26666
 MORE ON MIND CONTROL AND ABDUCTIONS +
3172.ufo 2604
 CANADIAN UFO PROJECTS +
3173.ufo 6236
 CARS STOPPAGES +
3174.ufo 9901
 SIGHTING REPORT 1/27/93 +
3175.ufo 3620
 KEN CARYL RESIDENTS REPORT "UFO" +
3176.ufo 3525
 ARMY PUBLICIST EXPOSES MILITARY UFO COVERUPS +
3177.ufo 63684
 SEEKERS - BY BILLY MEIER +
3178.ufo 4383
 MORE ON CATTLE MUTES.. +
3179.ufo 4607
 EVEN MORE ON CATTLE MUTILATIONS +
3180.ufo 3124
 UFO PICKED UP A CALF +
3181.ufo 43245
 A MAJESTIC DECEPTION +
3182.ufo 2673
 CORONA, CRASHED AND SMASHED?! +
3183.ufo 11468
 HOW STAR WARS WORKS +
3184.ufo 9202
 1992 NORTH AMERICN UGM LIST +
3185.ufo 24279
 BIBLIOGRAPHY ON THE CROP CIRCLES +
3186.ufo 3831
 CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE BMW KIND +
3187.ufo 1764
 1993 CROP CIRCLE REPORT BULLETIN +
3188.ufo 2246
 CROP CIRCLE HOAXERS +
3189.ufo 10693
 MUSIC OF THE SPHERES ? +
3190.ufo 13785
 MORE FROM CFNACCS +
3191.ufo 6589
 1993 CROP CIRCLE REPORT BULLETIN #3 +
3192.ufo 5787
 1993 CROP CIRCLE REPORT BULLETIN #4 +
3193.ufo 3421
 CIRCLES PHENOMENON RESEARCH +
3194.ufo 7255
 ENCOUNTERS OF THE REWARDING KIND +
3195.ufo 5543
 CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE CALL-IN KIND +
3196.ufo 2105
 UFO SIGHTINGS OF THE STARS +
3197.ufo 7775
 UFO CRASH - A CELESTIAL VISITOR +
3198.ufo 23453
 CUFON UFO REPORTS +
3199.ufo 31006
 CUFON UFO REPORTS +
3200.ufo 4552
 UFO BUFFS ELABORATE GOVERNMENT CHARADE +
3201.ufo 21106
 CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE CHILLING KIND +
3202.ufo 1711
 UFO SHOCKS CHINESE AIR CREW +
3203.ufo 3569
 UFOs CAUSE 737 TO CRASH +
3204.ufo 8673
 SILENT BLACK CHOPPERS +
3205.ufo 3986
 IDENTIFIED UFO +
3206.ufo 104735
 MORE ON CROP CIRCLES +
3207.ufo 74647
 MORE ON CROP CIRCLES +
3208.ufo 77415
 MORE ON CROP CIRCLES +
3209.ufo 3962
 SCIENTISTS VIDEO TAPE CIRCLES BEENING MADE +
3210.ufo 3865
 CENTRO ITALIANO STUDI UFOLOCICI +
3211.ufo 3320
 MORE FROM CENTRO ITALIANO STUDI UFOLOCICI +
3212.ufo 12817
 THOSE INTERESTED IN THE UFO PROBLEM +
3213.ufo 3909
 RESTORATION OF NASA'S SETI PROJECT +
3214.ufo 5212
 GRAPHICS FILES OF UFO PHOTOS/VIDEOS +
3215.ufo 4027
 CLEARING ED WALTERS - AUTHOR OF G.B.S. +
3216.ufo 39891
 CHILD AND ADULT PSYCHIATRY - UFOs +
3217.ufo 5763
 ENGAGE A CLOAKING DEVICE +
3218.ufo 30420
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT 11/08/87 +
3219.ufo 9314
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT 11/15/87 +
3220.ufo 28130
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT 2/19/89 +
3221.ufo 31763
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT CONT. +
3222.ufo 37880
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT CONT. +
3223.ufo 2257
 THOUSANDS HAVE CLOSE ENCOUNTERS +
3224.ufo 5943
 THE SSE +
3225.ufo 4351
 MYSTERY SURROUNDING UGMs +
3226.ufo 13272
 REFLECTIONS OF A PRO-UFOLOGLST +
3227.ufo 4346
 DIAGNOSES OF ALIEN +
3228.ufo 22008
 THE CONTINUING DEBATE OVER UFO'S +
3229.ufo 177581
 THE CONTROLLERS +
3230.ufo 41714
 ALIEN ENCOUNTERS +
3231.ufo 1387
 UFO OVER CRESTVIEW FLORIDA +
3232.ufo 12911
 CONFESSIONS OF A CROP CIRCLE SPY ! +
3233.ufo 8567
 KECKSBURG CRASH - CONTROVERSIAL +
3234.ufo 13933
 SECRET CRYPTOGRAPHIC STANDARD +
3235.ufo 6016
 CREDIBILITY AND THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF +
3236.ufo 17299
 WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? +
3237.ufo 12777
 CSETI +
3238.ufo 13386
 CSETI +
3239.ufo 19709
 CSETI +
3240.ufo 16886
 CSETI +
3241.ufo 7462
 CSETI +
3242.ufo 12969
 CSETI +
3243.ufo 23967
 CSETI +
3244.ufo 3021
 MORE ON CSETI +
3245.ufo 6713
 EVEN MORE ON CSETI +
3246.ufo 3670
 SOME MORE ON CSETI +
3247.ufo 2136
 THE GUARDIAN +
3248.ufo 2365
 MUTILATIONS +
3249.ufo 9468
 FORTY WITNESSES +
3250.ufo 3687
 WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IN AREA 51 +
3251.ufo 5250
 DALLAS HAS SOME STRANGE VISITORS +
3252.ufo 2967
 AIR FORCE CAPTURES DAMAGED UFO +
3253.ufo 4706
 TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH ED DAMES +
3254.ufo 5214
 OZARK UFO CONFERENCE +
3255.ufo 2680
 FLYING SAUCER STORY FUELS DEBATE +
3256.ufo 4370
 THE VARIETIES OF DEBUNKERITIS +
3257.ufo 13110
 FAILURE OF SCIENCE UFO-DEBUNKING +
3258.ufo 1647
 SIGHTING IN OCEANSIDE CA. +
3259.ufo 2595
 HOW TO TERMINATE A NEGATIVE CLOSE ENCOUNTER +
3260.ufo 10386
 CATTLE DEATHS UNEXPLAINED +
3261.ufo 5511
 UFO / PARANORMAL COURSES +
3261.ufo:³SUBJECT 0
 MATTER +
3262.ufo 1939
 OPERATION RIGHT TO KNOW +
3263.ufo 21975
 THE CHIHUAHUA DISK CRASH +
3264.ufo 5065
 DENVER UFO REPORT +
3265.ufo 23327
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3266.ufo 8392
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3267.ufo 13186
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3268.ufo 12421
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3269.ufo 45900
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3270.ufo 8445
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3271.ufo 25464
 THE DEVIANT UFONAUTS +
3272.ufo 2824
 UFO SIGHTINGS OR ABDUCTIONS ARE NUMEROUS +
3273.ufo 3804
 HUMAN COMPUTER TRACKING NOW MORE EFFICIENT +
3274.ufo 3088
 ALIEN GENETICS +
3275.ufo 3320
 LIGHTS: UFO REPORTS +
3276.ufo 1758
 CANINE IMPLANTS ! +
3277.ufo 9288
 AFRICAN TRIBE CALLED THE DOGON +
3278.ufo 4868
 SIGHTING IN DOGTOWN BY SUE JOHNSON +
3279.ufo 4518
 JUST SAY "I DON'T KNOW" +
3280.ufo 24210
 ALIENS/ABDUCTIONS IN AUSTRALIA +
3281.ufo 1785
 CEIV EXPERIENCE +
3282.ufo 3122
 ABDUCTED ON DECEMBER 8 +
3283.ufo 9961
 MORE ON ABDUCTION OF DECEMBER 8 +
3284.ufo 2774
 TAYLOR FLYING SAUCER RESTS ON STILTS +
3285.ufo 5777
 MORE ON ROBERT LAZAR AND AREA 51 +
3286.ufo 3425
 ALIENS ABDUCTING EARTH WOMEN +
3287.ufo 4292
 ARE SCIENTISTS EAZESDROPPING ON E.T. ? +
3288.ufo 4842
 ECLECTIC VIEWPOINT +
3289.ufo 13319
 REOPENING WALTER'S UFO CASE +
3290.ufo 1465
 UFOs INVADING ELBA, ALABAMA +
3291.ufo 9392
 MEXICO CITY SIGHTINGS +
3292.ufo 42363
 MYSTERIOUS ELF SOUND AGONIZES NEW MEXICO +
3293.ufo 4709
 END UFO SECRECY ! +
3294.ufo 16576
 MORE INTERVIEW'S OF BILL ENGLISH +
3295.ufo 10158
 LIGHTS IN THE SKIES & EARTHQUAKE'S +
3296.ufo 3448
 EARTH MOVES IN AN EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL WAY +
3297.ufo 4359
 STORY OF A CROP CIRCLE HOAX +
3298.ufo 17914
 MIND CONTROL AND MENTAL TELEPATHY +
3299.ufo 9296
 ET CONTACT - THE MEANING AND THE MESSAGE +
3300.ufo 14213
 EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL EXPOSURE LAW +
3301.ufo 2215
 FETUS FANTASY +
3302.ufo 1503
 RUSSIAN PARACHUTIST KNABBED +
3303.ufo 12947
 HANSEN ON CLARK +
3304.ufo 5071
 HARDER ON "INTRUDERS" +
3305.ufo 7384
 MORE ON HUDSON VALLEY UFO SIGHTINGS +
3306.ufo 9629
 MORE ON THE HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTINGS +
3307.ufo 12836
 ESTABLISHING CONTACT WITH ALIEN ABDUCTORS +
3308.ufo 3254
 HYPNOTHERAPISTS WORKING WITH ABDUCTEES +
3309.ufo 3679
 COOK'S UFO STORY IN PEORIA, ILL. +
3310.ufo 5864
 JACKSON PLANTS NEW IDEAS ON IMPLANTS +
3311.ufo 1317
 INVESTIGATIVE SIGHTING REPORT +
3312.ufo 2471
 THE BOOK INTRUDERS +
3313.ufo 6469
 MORE ON THE INTRUDERS +
3314.ufo 2824
 1966 UFOs CALLED GAS +
3315.ufo 947
 1966 SIGHTINGS PEAK 1,060 +
3316.ufo 1736
 1968 CO U ENDS STUDY +
3317.ufo 18585
 VIDEO FOOTAGE OF ROSEWELL AUTOPSY +
3318.ufo 12366
 WARNING - THE NEW PROJECT BLUE BOOK +
3320.ufo 2607
 UFO SHOCKER OVER THE ATLANTIC +
3321.ufo 3248
 FIRST BLACK ALIEN FOUND +
3322.ufo 6026
 ALIEN MEETINGS/STEIGER +
3323.ufo 4654
 ALIEN TYPES +
3324.ufo 4774
 SHOWEN:ORCA +
3325.ufo 1231
 SOVIET'S FIND SOMETHING ON MARS +
3326.ufo 22905
 THE PHOENIX PROJECT REPORT +
3327.ufo 1971
 EVEN MORE ON FACE ON MARS +
3328.ufo 16304
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3329.ufo 17111
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3330.ufo 13249
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3331.ufo 8666
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3332.ufo 11407
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3333.ufo 8700
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3334.ufo 2139
 OUTLINE +
3335.ufo 15576
 THE ANOMALOUS MARTIAN SURFACE +
3336.ufo 4324
 SUPER-SECRET LAUNCH TO MARS +
3337.ufo 1589
 NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGIES FOR SPACE EXPLORATION +
3338.ufo 8045
 JOAN'S UFO STORY +
3339.ufo 27950
 KLASS ON WALTON +
3341.ufo 12266
 ATTEMPTED MURDER vs. THE POLITICS OF UFOLOGY +
3342.ufo 3287
 THE VISTORS +
3343.ufo 11970
 A CRITIQUE OF BUDD HOPKINS - RE: +
3344.ufo 4273
 VIKING - MARS QUAKES +
3345.ufo 4631
 CLUES TO RED PLANET'S PAST +
3346.ufo 2153
 UFO HUNTERS SAY NASA DESTROYED OBSERVER +
3347.ufo 4270
 MORE ON QUAKES ON MARS +
3348.ufo 1705
 PLANNING MISSION TO RED PLANET +
3349.ufo 3636
 UFO STORIES FROM ANNAOLIS, MD +
3350.ufo 4187
 DIAGNOSES OF ALIEN KIDNAPPINGS +
3351.ufo 3599
 ABDUCTIONS BY ALIENS NOT GREEN MEN +
3352.ufo 10313
 RESEARCH BY NICHOLAS REITER +
3353.ufo 2445
 RESEARCH BY NICHOLAS RREITER +
3354.ufo 5958
 MINOR STUFF +
3355.ufo 4246
 ABDUCTEES ? OR SEX ABUSE ? +
3356.ufo 3370
 ALIENS ARE JUST MAKE-BELIEVE +
3357.ufo 3432
 CHARLES E. HICKSON STILL REMEMBERS +
3358.ufo 5231
 NO E.T.s ON MARS? +
3359.ufo 2695
 UND PROFESSOR WITH STORY OF ALIENS +
3360.ufo 5237
 HYPNOSIS CANNOT HELP +
3362.ufo 2512
 Why all the interest in Tau Ceti? +
3363.ufo 8460
 ALIENS AT U.S. BASES +
3364.ufo 3685
 ROPER ABDUCTION POLL +
3365.ufo 39006
 UNUSUAL PERSONAL EXPERIENCES +
3366.ufo 2993
 GOVERNMENT PREPARING MILITARY OPERATION +
3367.ufo 1512
 ABDUCTEE'S SUPPORT PROGRAM +
3368.ufo 4548
 YOU BE THE JUDGE +
3369.ufo 5786
 DISAPPERANCE OF DELTA SERRA JULIET +
3370.ufo 8467
 UFOs AND THE INNER MIND +
3371.ufo 13645
 INTERVIEW OF JIM SPEISER +
3372.ufo 3752
 UFO CREW RESCUED APOLLO 13 +
3373.ufo 3501
 UFO CRASH SURVIVOR LIVING AT MILITARY BASE +
3374.ufo 3269
 PEOPLE REALLY DO HAVE SEX WITH SPACE ALIENS! +
3375.ufo 4325
 CAPTAIN PRISONER ! +
3376.ufo 2110
 UFOs OVER LONDON +
3377.ufo 2903
 TOWNSFOLK TAKEN FOR TRIPS ON UFOs +
3378.ufo 3265
 SPACE ALIEN'S SHRUNKEN HEAD IS ALIVE! +
3379.ufo 2993
 INTELLIGENT LIFE ON THE MOON ? +
3380.ufo 2550
 UFO BLASTS RUSSIAN JET OUT OF THE SKY! +
3381.ufo 2957
 ALIENS CAPTURED BY U.S. NAVY +
3382.ufo 2251
 SOMETHING IS EATING THE STARS - AND IT'S HEADED TOWARD EARTH! +
3383.ufo 2195
 UFOs BUZZ DISNEY WORLD +

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3000.ufo 1804
 GUESS WHEN THE FIRST SAUCER WAS SIGHTED +
3001.ufo 1719
 UFO SHOW TO 'BIZARE' TO CONVINCE POLICEMAN +
3002.ufo 2303
 EXCERPT FROM ANGELS AND ALIENS +
3003.ufo 7624
 GRAVITATIONAL WAVE SEARCH +
3004.ufo 1911
 40 ANIMALS WITH MALE ORGANS RIPPED OUT +
3005.ufo 4279
 UFOBASE SIGHTING ASSORTED DATES +
3006.ufo 4356
 UFOBASE SIGHTING ASSORTED DATES +
3007.ufo 2289
 DISTANCE THAT UFO'S TRAVEL TO GET HERE +
3008.ufo 15475
 THE ISSUES FORUM 06/28/92 +
3009.ufo 1649
 73% OF SCIENTISTS BELIEVE IN UFOs! +
3010.ufo 3618
 SEVEN INTELLIGENCES INTERRELATED +
3011.ufo 7311
 UFOBASE SIGHTING ANNOUNCEMENT ASSORTED DATES +
3012.ufo 4080
 1991 SUMMARY RECAP DATA - UFO SIGHTINGS +
3013.ufo 48761
 THE 1992 CANADIAN UFO SURVEY +
3014.ufo 5595
 LONG DISTANCE CALL FROM EARTH +
3015.ufo 2085
 SIGHTING REPORT A22C1 +
3016.ufo 2452
 DON'T ABANDON THE SEARCH FOR LIFE +
3017.ufo 8437
 IS THERE AN ALIEN BASE UNDER PUERTO RICO ? +
3018.ufo 13086
 ABDUCTED BY ALIENS ? +
3019.ufo 26805
 A STRANGE CONNECTION +
3020.ufo 3347
 QUERIES ABOUT OUTERSPACE +
3021.ufo 3216
 HYPNOTHERAPISTS WORKING WITH ABDUCTEES/CONTACTEES +
3035.ufo 18118
 AM I IMAGINING IT ALL ? +
3036.ufo 36746
 AM I AN ABDUCTEE ? +
3037.ufo 10476
 ABDUCTION INVESTIGATION +
3038.ufo 55331
 THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI +
3039.ufo 43488
 THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI +
3040.ufo 51778
 THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI +
3041.ufo 72349
 OMNI ARTICLE: ABDUCTIONS +
3042.ufo 2465
 THE EVIDENCE FOR ALIEN ABDUCTIONS +
3043.ufo 1274
 ABDUCTION NOTES BY JOHN CARPENTER +
3044.ufo 1673
 OMNI ABDUCTEE OPPRESSION +
3045.ufo 4316
 ADVENT'S REPLY TO PARANET +
3046.ufo 12047
 ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE CLASSIFICATION +
3047.ufo 1050
 ZIMBABWE, AFRICA +
3048.ufo 9112
 THE SOUTH AFRICAN UFO CRASH RETRIEVAL INCIDENT +
3049.ufo 2994
 CALL FOR ABSTRACTS, AIR FORCE STUDY +
3050.ufo 3821
 ALIENS ATTEND FUNERAL +
3051.ufo 1830
 ANCHORAGE, AK. +
3053.ufo 31845
 THE BIELEK INTERVIEW +
3054.ufo 897
 ALAMAGORDO (NM) --UFO SIGHTINGS +
3055.ufo 4090
 HORSE-SAUCER MYSTERY GETS EVEN WEIRDER +
3056.ufo 4626
 AN ALIENABLE RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT UFOs +
3057.ufo 93331
 ALIEN ABDUCTION OR ALIEN PRODUCTIONS? +
3058.ufo 4751
 ALIENS ON MARS ? +
3059.ufo 5809
 SHOWEN : 3STAR +
3060.ufo 3689
 ALIEN EXPERIENCE +
3061.ufo 2420
 ALIEN ON ICE +
3062.ufo 3146
 YOUR CO-WORKER COULD BE A SPACE ALIEN +
3063.ufo 2303
 VARIOUS ALIEN DESCRIPTIONS +
3064.ufo 7036
 ALBERT EINSTEINS UNIFIED FIELD THEORY +
3065.ufo 3273
 THE ALLEN NEWS PAPER ARTICLE +
3066.ufo 4149
 THE TRUTH ABOUT ALTERNATIVE 3 +
3067.ufo 9428
 COUNTER MEASURES FOR MEN IN BLACK ENCOUNTERS +
3068.ufo 4550
 WHAT SEMITISM AND UFOLOGY HAVE IN COMMON +
3069.ufo 11854
 HIGH STRANGENESS IN THE ANTELOPE VALLEY +
3070.ufo 2494
 EUREKA SPRINGS, ARK. +
3071.ufo 228173
 ASSORTED WORLD WIDE AP REPORTS +
3072.ufo 2313
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3073.ufo 8446
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3074.ufo 7213
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3075.ufo 5433
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3076.ufo 5307
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3077.ufo 5654
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3078.ufo 11715
 ASSORTED AP REPORTS +
3079.ufo 3438
 RELEASE OF CLASSIFIED MATERIAL +
3080.ufo 8444
 THE AQUARIUM CONSPIRACY +
3081.ufo 6382
 AQUARIUM UPDATE +
3082.ufo 8558
 REQUEST FOR ABDUCTION REPORTS AND ACCOUNTS +
3083.ufo 5687
 REFERENCE REPORT ON MJ-12 +
3084.ufo 3666
 UFO SOURCES - GOVERNMENT ARCHIVES DIVISION +
3085.ufo 7260
 TOURISTS PAY $99 EACH, HOPING FOR CLOSE ENCOUNTER IN NEVADA DESERT +
3086.ufo 5809
 ARIZONA SIGHTING +
3087.ufo 6129
 ARIZONA SIGHTING +
3088.ufo 4281
 ARIZONA SIGHTING +
3089.ufo 20062
 ARIZONA SIGHTING +
3090.ufo 12649
 LIGHTS SEEN UNDER THE SEA +
3091.ufo 3280
 ATTENTION SCIENTIST AND SCHOLARS !!! +
3092.ufo 1472
 UFO RESEARCH INSTITUTE OF CANADA - UFORIC +
3093.ufo 24004
 SECRET MACH 6 SPY PLANE +
3094.ufo 7331
 SECRET AIRCRAFT +
3096.ufo 5712
 AURORA AND AREA 51 +
3097.ufo 7520
 RUMORS OF US SUPERPLANE APPEAR UNFOUNDED +
3098.ufo 13732
 MORE ON AURORA +
3099.ufo 8601
 EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE +
3100.ufo 3717
 EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE +
3101.ufo 7027
 EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE +
3102.ufo 6080
 MYSTERY CRAFT HAUNT CALIFORNIA AIR BASES +
3103.ufo 6888
 DENIAL AND DISINFORMATION +
3104.ufo 9643
 AIR FORCE ABONDONED SR-71 +
3105.ufo 6313
 THE ART OF BLACK MAGIC - STEALTH TECHNOLOGY +
3106.ufo 1902
 THIS ONE IS WILD !! +
3107.ufo 1507
 SECRET US AIRPLANE FLIES 5,280 MP +
3108.ufo 4604
 NEW SECRET SPY PLANE IN ACTION +
3109.ufo 3756
 NEW SPY PLANE FLIES EIGHT TIMES THE SPEED OF SOUND +
3110.ufo:SUBJECT 0
 WHY SUPER SPY AIRCRAFT STILL A SECRET ? +
3111.ufo 4005
 MORE ON SECRET PLANE - LONDON +
3112.ufo 1475
 MYSTERIOUS AIRCRAFT & 747 NEAR MISS +
3113.ufo 9376
 PLANE HITS 5,500 MILES AN HOUR +
3114.ufo 1829
 MYSTERY TREMOR FELT IN WEST VIRGINIA +
3115.ufo 2197
 NEW 'PULSER' SIGHTINGS +
3116.ufo 8381
 AUTOPSY REPORT # 2 +
3117.ufo 4326
 GENERATION OF BALL LIGHTNING +
3118.ufo 5383
 GREAT BALLS OF STEAM +
3119.ufo 7310
 SHOULD THE PUBLIC KNOW ALL ABOUT UFOs ? +
3120.ufo 3240
 UNKNOWN HAPPENINGS/PARANORMAL/PSYCHIC EVENTS +
3121.ufo 3242
 UNKNOW HAPPENINGS/PARANORMAL/PSYCHIC EVENTS +
3122.ufo 3242
 UNKNOWN HAPPENINGS/PARANORMAL/PSYCHIC EVENTS +
3123.ufo 1074
 ANIMAL MUTILATION STORY +
3124.ufo 2017
 CURIOUS EXPERIENCE LAST NIGHT +
3125.ufo 1540
 A CONTACTEE +
3126.ufo 5813
 SPACE/ASTRONOMY/UFO/ASTRAL EVENTS +
3127.ufo 921
 1966 SIGHTINGS PEAK 1,060 +
3128.ufo 1957
 1969 BLUE BOOK CLOSES +
3129.ufo 3082
 I REMEMBER WAY BACK IN MID 1971 +
3130.ufo 13035
 BEYOND THE BELGIAN FLAP--UFOs AND EUROPOLITICS +
3131.ufo 32194
 GULF BREEZE: A THOUGHTFUL OPINION +
3132.ufo 4129
 BELGIAN SKIES SOUTH-EAST OF BRUSSELS +
3133.ufo 5918
 IT HAPPENS IN THE BEST CIRCLES +
3134.ufo 45259
 DR. BETER AUDIO LETTER +
3135.ufo 2277
 THE BETTY CASH UFO ENCOUNTER +
3136.ufo 3182
 THE BELIEVERS GATHER +
3137.ufo:SUBJECT 0
 WOMAN TELLS OF UFO IN 73 ON U.S. 31 +
3138.ufo: 0
 THE BIEFIELD-BROWN ANTI-GRAVITY EFFECT +
3139.ufo 14710
 HIGH STRANGENESS IN FRANCE +
3140.ufo 2716
 UFO IN THE BIG BEND COUNTRY OF TEXAS +
3141.ufo 8949
 WHAT IS HAPPENING ? +
3142.ufo 20405
 TRANSCRIPT FROM LECTURE BY JEROME CLARK +
3143.ufo 2408
 CATTLE OWNERS ON ALERT AFTER MUTILATIONS +
3144.ufo 5960
 ENTER THE GRAY ALIENS +
3145.ufo 4502
 A LINKAGE RE: WACKENBUT/BLACK HELICOPTERS/UFOs +
3146.ufo 2598
 MORE OF THE STRAIGHT DOPE +
3147.ufo 6960
 TAMPA BAY SKEPTICS REPORT +
3148.ufo 29479
 BOB OECHSLER TRANSCRIPT +
3149.ufo 1856
 BOEING FIELD +
3150.ufo 9974
 THE ALIEN "BOOGER" MENACE +
3151.ufo 6739
 BOOKS AVAILABLE FROM UFO PHOTO ARCHIVES +
3152.ufo 2489
 THE SANDY BARBRE STORY +
3153.ufo 2880
 SIGHTING AND ABDUCTION IN SARNIA +
3154.ufo 3430
 20 SIGNS OF CLOSE EXTRATERRESTIAL ENCOUNTER +
3155.ufo 9321
 H SUB 1 = PROJECT FIDO +
3156.ufo: 0
 DON ECHER'S SHOW "UFOs TONITE" +
3157.ufo 5167
 THERAPIST SUED IN "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS" +
3158.ufo 18533
 THOMAS TOWNSEND BROWN +
3159.ufo 22096
 THOMAS TOWNSEND BROWN +
3160.ufo 7883
 DEAR MR HOPKINS +
3161.ufo 9729
 SECRET LIFE +
3162.ufo 3159
 SOVIET SCIENTISTS FOUND SAUCER IN ESTONIA +
3163.ufo 2719
 SIGHTING IN SARATOGA CALIFORNIA +
3164.ufo 1554
 CALVIN PARKER +
3165.ufo 126907
 THE UFO CAMOUFLAGE THREAD +
3166.ufo 5555
 CANADA'S ABDUCTION SCENE +
3167.ufo 3221
 GOLDEN EARS MOUNTAIN UFO UPDATE +
3168.ufo 48332
 THE 1992 CANADIAN UFO SURVEY +
3169.ufo 3477
 CANING ALIENS OR SHAPING FUTURE? +
3170.ufo 29276
 UFOs AND MIND CONTROL +
3171.ufo 26666
 MORE ON MIND CONTROL AND ABDUCTIONS +
3172.ufo 2604
 CANADIAN UFO PROJECTS +
3173.ufo 6236
 CARS STOPPAGES +
3174.ufo 9901
 SIGHTING REPORT 1/27/93 +
3175.ufo 3620
 KEN CARYL RESIDENTS REPORT "UFO" +
3176.ufo 3525
 ARMY PUBLICIST EXPOSES MILITARY UFO COVERUPS +
3177.ufo 63684
 SEEKERS - BY BILLY MEIER +
3178.ufo 4383
 MORE ON CATTLE MUTES.. +
3179.ufo 4607
 EVEN MORE ON CATTLE MUTILATIONS +
3180.ufo 3124
 UFO PICKED UP A CALF +
3181.ufo 43245
 A MAJESTIC DECEPTION +
3182.ufo 2673
 CORONA, CRASHED AND SMASHED?! +
3183.ufo 11468
 HOW STAR WARS WORKS +
3184.ufo 9202
 1992 NORTH AMERICN UGM LIST +
3185.ufo 24279
 BIBLIOGRAPHY ON THE CROP CIRCLES +
3186.ufo 3831
 CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE BMW KIND +
3187.ufo 1764
 1993 CROP CIRCLE REPORT BULLETIN +
3188.ufo 2246
 CROP CIRCLE HOAXERS +
3189.ufo 10693
 MUSIC OF THE SPHERES ? +
3190.ufo 13785
 MORE FROM CFNACCS +
3191.ufo 6589
 1993 CROP CIRCLE REPORT BULLETIN #3 +
3192.ufo 5787
 1993 CROP CIRCLE REPORT BULLETIN #4 +
3193.ufo 3421
 CIRCLES PHENOMENON RESEARCH +
3194.ufo 7255
 ENCOUNTERS OF THE REWARDING KIND +
3195.ufo 5543
 CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE CALL-IN KIND +
3196.ufo 2105
 UFO SIGHTINGS OF THE STARS +
3197.ufo 7775
 UFO CRASH - A CELESTIAL VISITOR +
3198.ufo 23453
 CUFON UFO REPORTS +
3199.ufo 31006
 CUFON UFO REPORTS +
3200.ufo 4552
 UFO BUFFS ELABORATE GOVERNMENT CHARADE +
3201.ufo 21106
 CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE CHILLING KIND +
3202.ufo 1711
 UFO SHOCKS CHINESE AIR CREW +
3203.ufo 3569
 UFOs CAUSE 737 TO CRASH +
3204.ufo 8673
 SILENT BLACK CHOPPERS +
3205.ufo 3986
 IDENTIFIED UFO +
3206.ufo 104735
 MORE ON CROP CIRCLES +
3207.ufo 74647
 MORE ON CROP CIRCLES +
3208.ufo 77415
 MORE ON CROP CIRCLES +
3209.ufo 3962
 SCIENTISTS VIDEO TAPE CIRCLES BEENING MADE +
3210.ufo 3865
 CENTRO ITALIANO STUDI UFOLOCICI +
3211.ufo 3320
 MORE FROM CENTRO ITALIANO STUDI UFOLOCICI +
3212.ufo 12817
 THOSE INTERESTED IN THE UFO PROBLEM +
3213.ufo 3909
 RESTORATION OF NASA'S SETI PROJECT +
3214.ufo 5212
 GRAPHICS FILES OF UFO PHOTOS/VIDEOS +
3215.ufo 4027
 CLEARING ED WALTERS - AUTHOR OF G.B.S. +
3216.ufo 39891
 CHILD AND ADULT PSYCHIATRY - UFOs +
3217.ufo 5763
 ENGAGE A CLOAKING DEVICE +
3218.ufo 30420
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT 11/08/87 +
3219.ufo 9314
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT 11/15/87 +
3220.ufo 28130
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT 2/19/89 +
3221.ufo 31763
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT CONT. +
3222.ufo 37880
 COMPUSERVE CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT CONT. +
3223.ufo 2257
 THOUSANDS HAVE CLOSE ENCOUNTERS +
3224.ufo 5943
 THE SSE +
3225.ufo 4351
 MYSTERY SURROUNDING UGMs +
3226.ufo 13272
 REFLECTIONS OF A PRO-UFOLOGLST +
3227.ufo 4346
 DIAGNOSES OF ALIEN +
3228.ufo 22008
 THE CONTINUING DEBATE OVER UFO'S +
3229.ufo 177581
 THE CONTROLLERS +
3230.ufo 41714
 ALIEN ENCOUNTERS +
3231.ufo 1387
 UFO OVER CRESTVIEW FLORIDA +
3232.ufo 12911
 CONFESSIONS OF A CROP CIRCLE SPY ! +
3233.ufo 8567
 KECKSBURG CRASH - CONTROVERSIAL +
3234.ufo 13933
 SECRET CRYPTOGRAPHIC STANDARD +
3235.ufo 6016
 CREDIBILITY AND THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF +
3236.ufo 17299
 WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? +
3237.ufo 12777
 CSETI +
3238.ufo 13386
 CSETI +
3239.ufo 19709
 CSETI +
3240.ufo 16886
 CSETI +
3241.ufo 7462
 CSETI +
3242.ufo 12969
 CSETI +
3243.ufo 23967
 CSETI +
3244.ufo 3021
 MORE ON CSETI +
3245.ufo 6713
 EVEN MORE ON CSETI +
3246.ufo 3670
 SOME MORE ON CSETI +
3247.ufo 2136
 THE GUARDIAN +
3248.ufo 2365
 MUTILATIONS +
3249.ufo 9468
 FORTY WITNESSES +
3250.ufo 3687
 WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IN AREA 51 +
3251.ufo 5250
 DALLAS HAS SOME STRANGE VISITORS +
3252.ufo 2967
 AIR FORCE CAPTURES DAMAGED UFO +
3253.ufo 4706
 TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH ED DAMES +
3254.ufo 5214
 OZARK UFO CONFERENCE +
3255.ufo 2680
 FLYING SAUCER STORY FUELS DEBATE +
3256.ufo 4370
 THE VARIETIES OF DEBUNKERITIS +
3257.ufo 13110
 FAILURE OF SCIENCE UFO-DEBUNKING +
3258.ufo 1647
 SIGHTING IN OCEANSIDE CA. +
3259.ufo 2595
 HOW TO TERMINATE A NEGATIVE CLOSE ENCOUNTER +
3260.ufo 10386
 CATTLE DEATHS UNEXPLAINED +
3261.ufo 5511
 UFO / PARANORMAL COURSES +
3261.ufo:³SUBJECT 0
 MATTER +
3262.ufo 1939
 OPERATION RIGHT TO KNOW +
3263.ufo 21975
 THE CHIHUAHUA DISK CRASH +
3264.ufo 5065
 DENVER UFO REPORT +
3265.ufo 23327
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3266.ufo 8392
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3267.ufo 13186
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3268.ufo 12421
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3269.ufo 45900
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3270.ufo 8445
 EXTRACTION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM SPACE +
3271.ufo 25464
 THE DEVIANT UFONAUTS +
3272.ufo 2824
 UFO SIGHTINGS OR ABDUCTIONS ARE NUMEROUS +
3273.ufo 3804
 HUMAN COMPUTER TRACKING NOW MORE EFFICIENT +
3274.ufo 3088
 ALIEN GENETICS +
3275.ufo 3320
 LIGHTS: UFO REPORTS +
3276.ufo 1758
 CANINE IMPLANTS ! +
3277.ufo 9288
 AFRICAN TRIBE CALLED THE DOGON +
3278.ufo 4868
 SIGHTING IN DOGTOWN BY SUE JOHNSON +
3279.ufo 4518
 JUST SAY "I DON'T KNOW" +
3280.ufo 24210
 ALIENS/ABDUCTIONS IN AUSTRALIA +
3281.ufo 1785
 CEIV EXPERIENCE +
3282.ufo 3122
 ABDUCTED ON DECEMBER 8 +
3283.ufo 9961
 MORE ON ABDUCTION OF DECEMBER 8 +
3284.ufo 2774
 TAYLOR FLYING SAUCER RESTS ON STILTS +
3285.ufo 5777
 MORE ON ROBERT LAZAR AND AREA 51 +
3286.ufo 3425
 ALIENS ABDUCTING EARTH WOMEN +
3287.ufo 4292
 ARE SCIENTISTS EAZESDROPPING ON E.T. ? +
3288.ufo 4842
 ECLECTIC VIEWPOINT +
3289.ufo 13319
 REOPENING WALTER'S UFO CASE +
3290.ufo 1465
 UFOs INVADING ELBA, ALABAMA +
3291.ufo 9392
 MEXICO CITY SIGHTINGS +
3292.ufo 42363
 MYSTERIOUS ELF SOUND AGONIZES NEW MEXICO +
3293.ufo 4709
 END UFO SECRECY ! +
3294.ufo 16576
 MORE INTERVIEW'S OF BILL ENGLISH +
3295.ufo 10158
 LIGHTS IN THE SKIES & EARTHQUAKE'S +
3296.ufo 3448
 EARTH MOVES IN AN EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL WAY +
3297.ufo 4359
 STORY OF A CROP CIRCLE HOAX +
3298.ufo 17914
 MIND CONTROL AND MENTAL TELEPATHY +
3299.ufo 9296
 ET CONTACT - THE MEANING AND THE MESSAGE +
3300.ufo 14213
 EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL EXPOSURE LAW +
3301.ufo 2215
 FETUS FANTASY +
3302.ufo 1503
 RUSSIAN PARACHUTIST KNABBED +
3303.ufo 12947
 HANSEN ON CLARK +
3304.ufo 5071
 HARDER ON "INTRUDERS" +
3305.ufo 7384
 MORE ON HUDSON VALLEY UFO SIGHTINGS +
3306.ufo 9629
 MORE ON THE HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTINGS +
3307.ufo 12836
 ESTABLISHING CONTACT WITH ALIEN ABDUCTORS +
3308.ufo 3254
 HYPNOTHERAPISTS WORKING WITH ABDUCTEES +
3309.ufo 3679
 COOK'S UFO STORY IN PEORIA, ILL. +
3310.ufo 5864
 JACKSON PLANTS NEW IDEAS ON IMPLANTS +
3311.ufo 1317
 INVESTIGATIVE SIGHTING REPORT +
3312.ufo 2471
 THE BOOK INTRUDERS +
3313.ufo 6469
 MORE ON THE INTRUDERS +
3314.ufo 2824
 1966 UFOs CALLED GAS +
3315.ufo 947
 1966 SIGHTINGS PEAK 1,060 +
3316.ufo 1736
 1968 CO U ENDS STUDY +
3317.ufo 18585
 VIDEO FOOTAGE OF ROSEWELL AUTOPSY +
3318.ufo 12366
 WARNING - THE NEW PROJECT BLUE BOOK +
3320.ufo 2607
 UFO SHOCKER OVER THE ATLANTIC +
3321.ufo 3248
 FIRST BLACK ALIEN FOUND +
3322.ufo 6026
 ALIEN MEETINGS/STEIGER +
3323.ufo 4654
 ALIEN TYPES +
3324.ufo 4774
 SHOWEN:ORCA +
3325.ufo 1231
 SOVIET'S FIND SOMETHING ON MARS +
3326.ufo 22905
 THE PHOENIX PROJECT REPORT +
3327.ufo 1971
 EVEN MORE ON FACE ON MARS +
3328.ufo 16304
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3329.ufo 17111
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3330.ufo 13249
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3331.ufo 8666
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3332.ufo 11407
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3333.ufo 8700
 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLE +
3334.ufo 2139
 OUTLINE +
3335.ufo 15576
 THE ANOMALOUS MARTIAN SURFACE +
3336.ufo 4324
 SUPER-SECRET LAUNCH TO MARS +
3337.ufo 1589
 NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGIES FOR SPACE EXPLORATION +
3338.ufo 8045
 JOAN'S UFO STORY +
3339.ufo 27950
 KLASS ON WALTON +
3341.ufo 12266
 ATTEMPTED MURDER vs. THE POLITICS OF UFOLOGY +
3342.ufo 3287
 THE VISTORS +
3343.ufo 11970
 A CRITIQUE OF BUDD HOPKINS - RE: +
3344.ufo 4273
 VIKING - MARS QUAKES +
3345.ufo 4631
 CLUES TO RED PLANET'S PAST +
3346.ufo 2153
 UFO HUNTERS SAY NASA DESTROYED OBSERVER +
3347.ufo 4270
 MORE ON QUAKES ON MARS +
3348.ufo 1705
 PLANNING MISSION TO RED PLANET +
3349.ufo 3636
 UFO STORIES FROM ANNAOLIS, MD +
3350.ufo 4187
 DIAGNOSES OF ALIEN KIDNAPPINGS +
3351.ufo 3599
 ABDUCTIONS BY ALIENS NOT GREEN MEN +
3352.ufo 10313
 RESEARCH BY NICHOLAS REITER +
3353.ufo 2445
 RESEARCH BY NICHOLAS RREITER +
3354.ufo 5958
 MINOR STUFF +
3355.ufo 4246
 ABDUCTEES ? OR SEX ABUSE ? +
3356.ufo 3370
 ALIENS ARE JUST MAKE-BELIEVE +
3357.ufo 3432
 CHARLES E. HICKSON STILL REMEMBERS +
3358.ufo 5231
 NO E.T.s ON MARS? +
3359.ufo 2695
 UND PROFESSOR WITH STORY OF ALIENS +
3360.ufo 5237
 HYPNOSIS CANNOT HELP +
3362.ufo 2512
 Why all the interest in Tau Ceti? +
3363.ufo 8460
 ALIENS AT U.S. BASES +
3364.ufo 3685
 ROPER ABDUCTION POLL +
3365.ufo 39006
 UNUSUAL PERSONAL EXPERIENCES +
3366.ufo 2993
 GOVERNMENT PREPARING MILITARY OPERATION +
3367.ufo 1512
 ABDUCTEE'S SUPPORT PROGRAM +
3368.ufo 4548
 YOU BE THE JUDGE +
3369.ufo 5786
 DISAPPERANCE OF DELTA SERRA JULIET +
3370.ufo 8467
 UFOs AND THE INNER MIND +
3371.ufo 13645
 INTERVIEW OF JIM SPEISER +
3372.ufo 3752
 UFO CREW RESCUED APOLLO 13 +
3373.ufo 3501
 UFO CRASH SURVIVOR LIVING AT MILITARY BASE +
3374.ufo 3269
 PEOPLE REALLY DO HAVE SEX WITH SPACE ALIENS! +
3375.ufo 4325
 CAPTAIN PRISONER ! +
3376.ufo 2110
 UFOs OVER LONDON +
3377.ufo 2903
 TOWNSFOLK TAKEN FOR TRIPS ON UFOs +
3378.ufo 3265
 SPACE ALIEN'S SHRUNKEN HEAD IS ALIVE! +
3379.ufo 2993
 INTELLIGENT LIFE ON THE MOON ? +
3380.ufo 2550
 UFO BLASTS RUSSIAN JET OUT OF THE SKY! +
3381.ufo 2957
 ALIENS CAPTURED BY U.S. NAVY +
3382.ufo 2251
 SOMETHING IS EATING THE STARS - AND IT'S HEADED TOWARD EARTH! +
3383.ufo 2195
 UFOs BUZZ DISNEY WORLD +

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diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3000.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3000.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..147cac9c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3000.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@ +SUBJECT: GUESS WHEN THE FIRST SAUCER WAS SIGHTED FILE: UFO3000 + + + + +Appearing in the San Jose News (not yet the Mercury-News), Monday, January 1, +1968, page 102: + +`` GUESS WHEN THE FIRST SAUCER WAS SIGHTED + + Willowdale, ONT. (NEA) - What may have been the first reported + sighting of unidentified flying objects over North America has been + found in an 18th-century diary by the Rev. James. S. McGivern, S.J., + historian at Regis College. + + The incident is recorded under the date Oct. 12, 1796, in the + diary of one Simeon Perkins, published by the Champlain Society. + + The extract reads: + + "A strange story comes from the Bay of Fundy that ships have + been seen in the air. Mr. Darrow is lately come from there + by land. I enquired of him. He stated that they were said + to be seen at New Mines near Mr. Ratchford's by a girl + about sunrise. + + "The girl cried out and two men who were in the house came + out and saw them. There were 15 ships and a man forward + with his hand stretched out. They made to the eastward. + They were so near people saw their sides and ports. The + story did not obtain universal credit, but some people + believed it." + + Comments Father McGivern: "It is of interest that in the era of + sail, the UFOs were reported in the form of ships, whereas today + they are reported seen as exotic aircraft." +'' + + +{end of article} + + + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3001.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3001.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..271946c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3001.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO SHOW TO 'BIZARE' TO CONVINCE POLICEMAN FILE: UFO3001 + + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +UFO show too `bizarre' to convince policeman +09/13/93 +THE EDMONTON JOURNAL + +Portsmouth, N.H. +When police officer Kevin Semprini was given his assignment to +cover a convention Sunday, he didn't know what he was in for - an +encounter with 500 true believers in aliens, flying saucers and +other unidentified flying objects. +"It's kind of bizarre," said Semprini, watching a slide show about +a giant face on the surface of Mars a speaker said may have been +carved by "ancient astronauts" from Earth or their Martian +ancestors. +"I'd like to believe it . . . but," said the officer. +Semprini was one of the few skeptics in the crowd. +Many of the convention participants, gathered at a restaurant in +Portsmouth for the Third Annual New Hampshire Mutual Unidentified +Flying Object Network conference, embrace the theory mankind has +blundered badly in caring for the Earth and aliens are coming to +take charge. +Roberta Puhalski, 47, of Connecticut said she saw her first +extraterrestrial in 1988. It was making noise in the hallway and +woke her. +"As it approached, I looked out from my waterbed and saw the +figure," said the part-time columnist for the New York City-based +Space Newsletter. +"It had the huge head, very frail frame and overly extended arms," +she said, adding it was similar to the creatures in the hit +science fiction film Close Encounters of the Third Kind. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3002.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3002.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9396e5c0 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3002.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,50 @@ +SUBJECT: EXCERPT FROM ANGELS AND ALIENS FILE: UFO3002 + + + + +Excerpt from Angels and Aliens: UFOs and the Mythic Imagination by Keith +Thompson, (c) 1991 Addison-Wesley. + + ================ + + Recently the French sociologist Bertrand Meheust made an +important discovery that further clouds the question of what counts as a +'UFO precedent.' Meheust came across an abduction report involving a +Belgian citizen named Mr. Belans. The event took place in a remote area +near Brabant where farmers had reported suspiciously crushed vegetation +in their wheat fields. While walking in this area, Belans noticed a man +dressed in black under a tree, apparently waiting for something. His +curiosity aroused, Belans waited and watched. Soon an unusual feeling +of fatigue came over him, as if some force had taken control of his +actions. This was followed by a strange buzzing sound, then by a very +bright light, as an elongated craft landed nearby. When a door opened +over a barely lit rectangle, the man in black stepped into the object. +Belens felt compelled to follow. + + The interior of the craft was evenly illuminated but without an +apparent source of light. Momentarily, the craft took off with a faint +vibration, after which a tall man entered through a wall of the room. +This man seemed to know Belans's every thought. Speaking in French, the +tall man revealed that he hailed from a faraway star. + + "Why don't you establish open contact?" asked Belans." + + "Because we do not wish to force the rapid evolution of elements +that are foreign to our own civilization," the ufonaut answered. + + When Belans was later returned to Earth, he discovered a +significant period of amnesia, missing time, a theme known to those +familiar with abduction narratives. + + This abduction is dated _1934_, twenty-seven years prior to the +Hill abduction. More precisely, the case appeared in a science fiction +story entitled "Hodomur, Man of Infinity," published that year by Ege +Tilms. [pg. 67] + + ================ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3003.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3003.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9041adb8 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3003.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,176 @@ +SUBJECT: GRAVITATIONAL WAVE SEARCH FILE: UFO3003 + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + SPACE NEWS - WIRE + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + 3/17/93: 3 SPACECRAFT TO CONDUCT 3-WEEK + GRAVITATIONAL WAVE SEARCH + +Donald L. Savage +Headquarters, Washington, D.C. March 17, 1993 + +Franklin O'Donnell +Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. + +RELEASE: 93-48 + +Three interplanetary spacecraft, now headed quietly toward +Mars, Jupiter and over the poles of the sun, soon may prove +the existence of elusive waves in the universe's +gravitational field by bobbing on ripples in space like +corks bobbing on ripples in a pond. + +Such waves of gravity have never been directly detected, +although their existence was predicted decades ago in +Einstein's theory of relativity and there is indirect +evidence that they exist. The waves are believed to be +produced by supernova explosions, collapsing black holes and +other catastrophic events. Past searches with ground-based +equipment and single spacecraft have failed to discover +them. + +Astrophysicists are hoping to make this major discovery by +spending the next few weeks "listening" for passing +gravitational waves with three "borrowed" spacecraft at the +same time in the most sensitive detection system yet +assembled to search for very low frequency gravitational +waves. + +The spacecraft, now on their way to separate destinations in +the solar system, are NASA's Mars Observer, Galileo and the +European Space Agency (ESA) Ulysses spacecraft. + +The joint NASA-ESA experiment will run from March 21 to +April 11, marking the first time three spacecraft will make +observations simultaneously, greatly increasing the +reliability of any detection. + +"If this experiment succeeds in detecting gravitational +waves it may answer fundamental questions about the nature +of gravity as well as give further support for Einstein's +theory of general relativity," said Dr. Robert Stachnik, +Gravitational Wave Program Scientist in NASA's Astrophysics +Div., Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. + +"We're also very excited about the possibility of making a +major discovery with such a cost-effective experiment. We +were able to take advantage of three spacecraft already in +space which soon will be in the correct relative positions +and distances we need to do this experiment. We can just +borrow them for a few weeks, without any added cost for +equipment and no change to their missions. It's big science +on a small budget," Stachnik said. + +"Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves in +his theory of general relativity, and radio astronomy +observations of pulsars have suggested they indeed exist -- +but no one has ever detected a gravitational wave directly," +said Dr. John W. Armstrong of NASA's Jet Propulsion +Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., who will work with the Mars +Observer and Galileo spacecraft. + +The experiment is built around a simple concept. During the +3-week experiment, the antennas of NASA's Deep Space +Network (DSN) on Earth will beam radio signals to the three +spacecraft at precisely known frequencies. Each spacecraft +will send signals back to Earth at the same frequency it +receives. If no gravitational waves are passing through the +Solar System, the signals returned to Earth should have +exactly the same frequencies as the original signals sent +from the DSN, shifted only by the Doppler effect of +spacecraft motion. +However, if a strong enough gravitational wave passes -- +produced perhaps from collapsing masses of stars in the +hearts of galaxies or from the spiraling together and +collision of two black holes -- both the Earth and the +spacecraft will experience a slight "bobbing" from the +ripple-like passage of the gravitational wave. This +interaction cannot be directly detected at either the Earth +or the spacecraft alone, but would show up as a slight +change in the frequency of the radio signal finally received +back at Earth. + +The hydrogen maser clocks that control the DSN transmitters +and receivers are so accurate that scientists will be able +to detect a change in radio frequency of as little as a few +parts in a quadrillion (a quadrillion is 1 followed by 15 +zeroes). + +"This should allow us to detect gravitational waves from +objects such as massive pairs of black holes hidden in the +hearts of other galaxies," said Hugo D. Wahlquist of JPL, +who will work on the Ulysses spacecraft with Sami W. Asmar +of JPL, Prof. Bruno Bertotti of the University of Pavia, +Italy, and Prof. Luciano Iess of the University of Rome La +Sapienza. + +Scientists emphasize, however, that snaring a gravitational +wave during the 3-week experiment will depend on a good bit +of luck -- whether a suitable astronomical event happens to +occur during the relatively brief opportunity when data can +be taken. All three spacecraft will be in the Earth's night +sky at that time, so interference with their radio signals +due to charged particles in the solar wind will be at a +minimum. + +Successful detection of gravitational waves could open up an +entirely new kind of astronomy. Because the gravitational +waves do not readily interact with matter, detecting them +may open a window to the interiors of powerful -- and +sometimes catastrophic -- events such as supernova +explosions and collapsing black holes. + +"Gravitational wave research is now in the hands of +physicists. Once signals are detected, the astronomers will +be beating down the doors," said Stachnik. + +Sensitive ground-based interferometer antennas now are being +built in both the United States and Europe to search for +gravitational waves with wavelengths of thousands of +kilometers. + +"In addition to searching for the shorter waves that can +affect antennas here on Earth, we now will be using radio +signals sent to spacecraft hundreds of millions of +kilometers away to search for waves of much longer +wavelength," said Dr. Frank B. Estabrook of JPL, who will +work with the Galileo spacecraft. + +Detection of the gravitational waves, even if they occur, +will still take at least several months of patient data +analysis. "The spacecraft systems can detect large enough +gravitational waves, if they exist," said Dr. Bevan M. +French, Program Scientist for the Mars Observer. "But it +won't be one of those sudden 'Eureka!' situations. We'll be +looking for a few small wiggles in a huge amount of radio +data. It will take time." + +To identify the unique signals of gravitational waves, the +scientists also will have to eliminate such mundane effects +as planned changes in the orientation of the spacecraft, +interference from charged particles (plasmas) in space and +even atmospheric changes, rain and snow on Earth. + +Mars Observer, launched in September 1992, will reach the +Red Planet Aug. 24 of this year. Launched in 1989, NASA's +Galileo spacecraft will arrive at Jupiter in 1995. The ESA +Ulysses spacecraft was launched in 1990, and it will fly +over the sun's poles in 1994 and 1995. + +Gravitational wave research is supported by the Astrophysics +Division of NASA's Office of Space Science and by each of +the three spacecraft projects, which scheduled the radio +searches during their interplanetary cruise periods. + + +-END OF FILE- + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3004.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3004.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0302fa72 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3004.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +SUBJECT: 40 ANIMALS WITH MALE ORGANS RIPPED OUT FILE: UFO3004 + + + + + +From The HUntsville Times Sunday October 11, 1987 Alabama + +The Associated Press + +Geneva, Ala. - AUthorities probing the mysterious deaths of some 40 animals - +pigs, dogs and a horse that had its male organs ripped off - are trying to head +off a stampede of evidence trampling sightseers. +Dot Kirkland, a Geneva County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman, said tales +about a mysterious beast have attracted droves of sightseers. +"It's like a fire in town," she said. "Everybody's coming to see. It's +bothering our efforts. We're setting out traps, but we can't tell if there are +any tracks because there have been so many people walking around out there. We +want them to stay away, becasue the traps are dangerous to humans as well as +animals." +Among the casualties were two 60-pound pigs owned by Lloyd Stinson and his +wife, Ann. +The couple said that on a recent evening just after sundown they heard a pig +squeal, ran outside and found the two animals ripped bodies in the pen. +"We didn't see what had done it," said Mrs. Stinson. "But we heard it. It was +up between the pen and a little hill and we heard it holler. It was a sound +I'm not familiar with, but it frightened us enough to get out of there." +County authorities said more than 35 animals have been killed since early +September. Most have been hogs, but there have been several bulldogs and one +horse. +Mrs. Stinson said there stock boar, which weighed 250 pounds, was also killed. +"The thing that has confused us is the fact that there is very little blood +around," she said. "We're baffled. We've been studying books about animals and +we can't figure out what this might be." + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. 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OBJECTS ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + ________________ + /UFOBASE 4.0 (c) \ +ÚÄÄÄ/ Sighting \ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ Announcement ³ +³ ------------ ³ +³ UFO Shape: LIGHTS ³ +³ Date Sighted: 12/08/92 ³ +³ City/County : CAMPTON ³ +³ State : NH ³ +³ Time : 11:10 PM ³ +³ Hynek Classification : NL ³ +³ Witnesses : 3 ³ +³ Sound : NONE ³ +³ Duration : 70 MINUTES ³ +³ Comments : ³ +³ OBSERVED AT NIGHT ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + ________________ + /UFOBASE 4.0 (c) \ +ÚÄÄÄ/ Sighting \ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ Announcement ³ +³ ------------ ³ +³ UFO Shape: SAUCER ³ +³ Date Sighted: 01/18/93 ³ +³ City/County : CULLMAN ³ +³ State : AL ³ +³ Time : 11:15 ³ +³ Hynek Classification : ROUND ³ +³ Witnesses : JON TUCKERMAN ³ +³ Sound : NONE ³ +³ Duration : 45 MIN. ³ +³ Comments : ³ +³ I HAND JUST GOTTEN OFF A BBS AND LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW. ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3007.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3007.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4fbbe911 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3007.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,53 @@ +SUBJECT: DISTANCE THAT UFO'S TRAVEL TO GET HERE FILE: UFO3007 + + + + +It helps to put into perspective the distances that UFO's must travel if +come from the nearest galaxy to us. Showing how long it would take at 6 +isn't really the best example but the time it would take at the speed of +is interesting. + +Distance to the Sun (at perihelion) = 91,400,000 miles + Speed of Light = 186,232 miles per second + Speed of Light = 670,615,200 miles per hour + Number of seconds in one year = 31,536,000 seconds + One light year = 5,874,589,152,000 miles + Years to Sun at 60 Miles per Hour = 173.8964992 years at 60mph + + Distance to Proxima Centauri = 25,260,733,354,000 miles + Light Years to Proxima Centauri = 4.3 light years + Seconds to Proxima Centauri = 135,604,800 s. (at speed of light) + Hours to Proxima Centauri = 37,668 hours (at speed of light) + Days to Proxima Centauri = 1569.5 days (at speed of light) + Years to Proxima Centauri at 60MPH = 48,060,756 (at 60 miles per hour) + + Distance to nearest Galaxy = 1,174,917,830,400,000,000 miles + Light Years to nearest Galaxy = 200,000 light years + Seconds to nearest Galaxy = 6,307,200,000,000 (at light speed) + Hours to nearest Galaxy = 1,752,000,000 (at light speed) + Days to nearest Galaxy = 73,000,000 (at light speed) + Years to nearest Galaxy at 60MPH = 2,235,384,000,000 (at 60 MPH) + + +Here is a guide to pronouncing some of the extremely large numbers up +there: + +Zeroes Name Zeroes Name + 3 Thousand 33 Decillion + 6 Million 36 Undecillion + 9 Billion 39 Duodecillion + 12 Trillion 42 Tredecillion + 15 Quadrillion 45 Quattuordecillion + 18 Quintillion 48 Quindecillion + 21 Sextillion 51 Sexdecillion + 24 Septillion 54 Septendecillion + 27 Octillion 57 Octodecillion + 30 Nonillion 60 Novemdecillion + 63 Vigintillion + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3008.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3008.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..01f76f36 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3008.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,264 @@ +SUBJECT: THE ISSUES FORUM 06/28/92 FILE: UFO3008 + + + + + +*********** The Issues Forum 06/28/92 20:07:29 + + Terry | Don... + | Has L.A. stopped shaking? ga + DON M | wrong DON GA + Terry | OH, sorry! + Ted M. | DON what are your interest? ga + DON M | ok... + | I'm about to go to England and am; interested in the circles... + | I'm wondering if any have been spotted this year. ga] + Ted M. | Ok... + | I am not the expert on British crop circle but I do know that + | they have ... + | had many. However, they occur during [or near] harvest time. + | When... + | are you going to be there. I will be in Tetbury near the end + | of July. ga + DON M | ok + | I'm going the 18th of July and I know that last year there were + | many at that time. ga + Ted M. | That is really interesting leave for the UK on the 18th also! + DON M | Business or vacation or what? ga + Ted M. | Business, I'll be there about a week. Where are you leaving + | from? ga + DON M | Boston... + | I'm only going for ten days and I will be hunting for circles... + | and any related phenomenon + | Linda m. Howe is also going. ga + Ted M. | Do you have a planned agenda? Where will you look first? ga + DON M | Salisbury area is the best bet. I may rent a plane and search + | as I'm a pilot and it would provide the best pictures... + | I will also try and contact the crop watchers there. ga + Ted | DON, will you be at the MUFON meeting next month? ga + DON M | I wish I could. What is the date and do you have to ... + | be a member to attend? ga + Ted M. | Terry, do you want to answer that one? ga + Terry | No, you don't have to be a member. ga + DON M | Date? + Ted M. | And the date is July 10th. Linda Howe will be there. ga + Terry | July 10-12. + + DON M | She told me that she was speaking at the conference... + Ted M. | If you can make it a bunch of us from this Forum will.. + | be meeting in the lounge of the Doubletree hotel Friday. ga + Terry | ? + Ted M. | GA Terry + Terry | Don. Are you associated with Linda Howe? ga] + DON M | no. + Ted M. | Do you speak with her often? ga + DON M | ok + Bert | Hi. + DON M | I called her about the tape she was distributing and she talked. + Ted M. | Will you be joining her in the UK? ga + DON M | I'd like that but I will have to call her again... + | I only met her once at last years Omega Co. ga + Ted M. | Well, maybe you can arrange to bump into her. Bet she could... + | use the services of a good pilot. ga + DON M | I'm not THAT good of a pilot but I can land and takeoff! ga + Ted M. | Any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing. ga + DON M | You are correct. I would like to say that many local... + | pilots have seen UFO's and even figured speeds. ga + Ted M. | Tell us more. ga + DON M | I'm slow at typing and its hard to tell a complete ... + | story but I could E mail it sometime if you wish. ga + Ted M. | Sure, that would be interesting. GA + Joe Balsamo: Hi, sorry I'm late...what's happening tonight? ga + Terry | Hi, Joe. + DON M | I'll do it then, check your mail, g + Terry | Don Ecker is here, too. ga + Ted M. | Say DON, [the other DON] any follow-up after the Larry King + | show? ga + DON | Say again Ted? + Ted M. | Sorry, anything happen as a result of the Larry King show? ga + DON | Well, they showed the same segment of tape that NBC ran on HC. + | I sent the tape to the exec. producer and that is the piece + | they decided to run. I had no control over it. + | Now, as an aside, I thought for a while they were doing an ambush + | with Oberg and the two callers including DiPietro. + | The enhanced segment showing the dome and disk was NOT shown. + | I am bringing it to MUFON, and if I can find a place to run it I will. GA + Bert | ? + DON | I was not invited to speak so I do not have access to equipment + | or rooms. Did you catch that Joe? No evasivness, I just flat don't have + | the equipment. + Ted M. | If you can bring it on 8mm video I can play it there. GA Bert + DON | However, Oberg was trying + | to escape a question I had, I wanted to have him admit the same + | thing he told me on the phone after the Hard Copy thing ran, HE IS + | UNDER SECRTY ETRITONS UFO ROSDRDTOA EUIYn was trying to point out + | some info I found out about a NASA and CIA + | project that ran on UFOs in the 70s, when I was cut off. ga + | that was UFOs are considered National Security items. + Ted M. | DON part of that last message was garbled. I got "HE IS UNDER + | SECRTY ETRITONS UFO ROSDRDTOA EUIYn.." ga + DON | He signed and has a security access Top Secret + | He was just trying to make everyone believe he is just a "Space + | Nut" as some kind of interested observer. Bull Shit. + Joe | ! + Bert | Don, I thought you did a good job of drilling Oberg. It was.. + | pretty obvious he was trying to dodge your Q's.... + | this guy seems to be the new Kl ass. A couple weeks ago he was + | on a talk show with Hopkins, Jacobs, and Mack as well as some + | abductees he was really obnoxious trying to put down these guys. g + DON | Yeh, well I got him on that. + Joe | Don, PLEASE bring the tape...I will bring a VCR, I just want to + | see that digitally enhanced tape... + | also, I have spoken to Eric Herr and Mel Podel here in San + | Diego and they refer to Mr. Oberg as 'an insufferable twit'...also... + DON | Joe, I am going to bring it. + Joe | that LKL show was WAY to short for Don to present his case. You + | did a good job considering that what you were up against, I + | certainly did NOT mean to imply that you were being evasive... + | you read my messages out of context and got that impression, I + | apologize, as I said, I'm on your side! ga + DON | Ok, I am gonna say it here just this once... + | I mentioned it twice on King on Friday + | Debris and ice TUMBLE boys and girls, esp. if it is in + | orbit the camera was BOLTED TO THE SHUTTLE..... + | the picture DID NOT MOVE WHEN THAT THING TOOK OFF AT A 140 DEGREE ... + | ANGLE THEREFORE THE SHUTTLE DID NOT FIRE ANY THRUSTERS...... + | are we with me so far? To continue + | The object was NOT TUMBLING, DID NOT REFLECT SUNLIGHT AND + | "SPARKLE" LIKE ICE WOULD IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS....... + | ergo, when it took off, it kept accelerating into space. If it + | were just pushed, then it would have tumbled maybe into a different orbit. + | In my copy, it keeps going right off the screen into deep space. + | the photo did not move, just the objects. + | Later on, after event 2, the shuttle does fire thrusters, it + | does move the camera moves, EVERYTHING MOVES. + | That was the PISS IN SPACE DUMP. NOT BEFORE. + | Then there is the STREAK. That is not present when the shuttle moves. + | The object seemed to anticipate the streak, did a right angle, + | and split. This is what they do not want to address. + | The "disk and dome" object is breath taking. They did not want + | to run that. As to DiPietro, he enhanced the tape, and is now....... + | (according to a guy who knows him very well, and who called me) + | scared out of his pants that he will be fired. + | This tape was not to have been released, and it was just plain + | dumb luck it was. + Joe | ? + Ted M. | GA Joe + Joe | So far it seems as if there has been a concerted effort by + | every TV show to keep you from showing the entire tape and the + | digitally enhanced tape with the clear view of a domed object... + | do you know of anyway that this can be shown to the American + | public on National Television? It is a travesty of justice if this is + | not shown all know, the government is up to its neck right now over the + | cover-up of the POW/MIA issue, this is just one more example of + | the fascism that is being practiced by our CIA/DIA and other spook + | groups...this HAS got to be shown! GA + DON | !! + Bert | GA Don. Ted is on phone. ga + DON | NASA and the CIA conducted a project study back in the 70's + | on UFOs, which NASA first admitted, then recanted. + | NASA is in up to their neck with NSA, NRO, CIA, and all the top + | intelligence agencies because of space satellites technology, etc. + | and anyone who thinks that they are still the civilian space + | agency is full of it. Since Truly was fired, and Goldin took over, + | and let us not forget that Goldin has ties to the NSA thru TRW, and that + | NASA has become deeply militarized and black, the civilian aspect has taken + | it in the shorts. These people that think that NASA will tell + |the truth as they know they are not smelling the coffee. NASA is +a federal agency, and like + | the CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI, NRO, and the rest of them, + | will do what they damn well feel, and nothing else. ga + Bert When Golden was appointed a few months back... + | there was an article in Science which expressed... + | some concern about the absence of background on him. They called him... + | the "mystery man" and pointed out that he was director of some + | really black projects while at TRW. Since then I've seen him + | interviewed a few times on TV and he seems to come across as all business. + |Hard to say good or bad. ga + DON | Oh, BTW, my guest tonight is Ralph McGehee, a 25 year retired vet. of the + | CIA. An agency critic. Should be a great show. + Joe | Is this cable radio only? + DON | Satellite dish if you got it. + Joe | I have a friend, thanks, GA + Bert | Is McGehee the guy who appeared on Unsolved Mysteries when they... + | did the Bentwaters piece. If so he's the guy who tried hard to... + | debunk the whole thing. ga + DON | Nope, not the same. + Joe | ! + DON | Well, gotta run, you all take care. + Anne | bye, DON + Bert | Seeya Don. + Joe | c-ya don + Ted M. | Thanks Bert, I was on an overseas call. Night Don. GA Joe + Joe | OK... + | What do you think the possibility is of we, the civilian U.S. + | UFO investigators approaching either the French or the former Soviets... + | and soliciting their help in these matters?...Certainly the + | soviets need the money and they MUST have information from their space + | program that could prove to be helpful. GA + Terry | ! + Ted M. | GA Terry + Terry |Joe, Don has been in contact with top Russian people (UFO & + | space types) for some time now, and Vallee is also working with Russians. + | Don got and published the Russian photo of the missile from Mars... + | approaching the Phobos II probe just before it went out. ga + Joe | ! + Bert | ? + Ted M. | GA Joe + Joe | OK, that is excellent, what about the French, the Brazilians + | and the Belgians, any idea of getting help from them?... + | Also, what about forming a PAC to try and get the Senate and + | house to start putting some pressure onto the spooks? ga + Ted M. | Ga Bert + Bert has everyone seen the new file in lib10? i.e. the one describing the ... + | base in northern CA? ga + Terry | No. + Joe | not yet, I'll get it after meeting ga + Bert | It's a very interesting file. It's a report from this Phoenix + | group that also put up the report on Dulce a few weeks ago. No + | names mentioned again, but at least it sets up a situation + | where people can easily go and check this out. Could be more + | disinfo. I thought the Dulce report was a little suspicious. + | But who knows? It's definitely worth looking over. ga + Joe | ? + Ted M. | You know I thought the two files were totally different in style. + | The first seemed more objective, while the second was more like Cooper. | + | Less professional and more like an evangelist. GA Joe + Joe | What was Phoenix's general conclusion, yea or Nay on the + | North Cal base? + Bert | ! + Ted M. | GA Bert + Bert | They claim to have done an investigation which they describe in some detail. + | They did magnetometer analyses of an area which they claimed + | showed a huge metal dome and tunnels etc. underground in this + | particular area. They tell you how to get there etc. They + | encourage the public to go check it out they also have seen + | craft going in to the base. They claim that... + | they can't loose on this, because by going public with the + | report the Gov. will have to fence off the area and patrol it + | etc. and that itself will be confirmation of the bases + | presence. ga + Joe | ? + Ted M. | GA Joe + Joe | Has anyone ordered anything from Phoenix yet? ga + Bert | Not me. + Terry | Not me. + Ted M. | Just a cheeseburger and fries. + Bert | They give an address where you can get documents, photos, etc. + | relating to report. Sounds sort of Valerianesque though. ga + Joe | A PhoenixBurger! ga + Ted M. | Yes, it was burned sooooo bad it arose from it's own ashes. ga + Joe | hahahah Well that base should be pretty easy to check out. + | Might be worth a trip up there to see what's going on. ga + Ted M. | Gotta go folks... + | Night all ga + Joe | c-ya, Ted + Bert | Night Ted. + Terry | Nite Ted. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3009.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3009.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4ff92f1e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3009.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +SUBJECT: 73% OF SCIENTISTS BELIEVE IN UFOs! FILE: UFO3009 + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +"73% of scientists believe in UFOs!" + +"An incredible 73% of top scientist polled now believe in UFOs-and more +than half want the government to fund investigations into them. +Not only that, but a startling 52% of these scientists are convinced +that they had seen UFOs themselves. 'We tend to think of scientists as +being skeptical, but I think this poll disproves that,' said French UFO +expert Claude LaVoure. +'Intelligent scientists are now accepting the probability that UFOs do +exist.' Of the 1,200 scientists who took part in the university survey, +92% had master's degrees or higher. 'We ran a similar poll in 1981 and +it seemed a good idea to see how attitudes towards UFOs have changed +since then,' explained LaVoure. 'What is most striking is the high +number-7 out of 10-who at least think UFOs probably do exist. 'And only +4% of the scientists are prepared to answer 'definitely not' to the +question of whether UFOs actually exist. That result is identical to +what we had in 1981.' In the latest survey, 27 percent said they +'definitely' believe in UFOs, 46% said they 'probably' believe, 12% +said they were 'undecided' and 11% said UFOs 'probably did not' exist. +The remaining scientists said 'definitely not.' According to the poll, +36% said they know of someone who claims to have seen a UFO." + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. 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He proposes that ³ +³man draws on different abilities to process various kinds of³ +³information. ³ +³ ³ +³Rather than stating intelligence as one unique function, Dr.³ +³Gardner argues that there are seven intelligences which are ³ +³interrelated. These seven intelligences are based on ³ +³evidence from a wide range of disciplines including ³ +³anthropology, biology and psychology. The seven are as ³ +³follows: ³ +³ ³ +³- Linguistic intelligence: Word meanings and uses of ³ +³ language. ³ +³ ³ +³- Logical mathematical intelligence: Complex reasoning and ³ +³ recognition of patterns. ³ +³ ³ +³- Spatial intelligence: Perceiving the visual world ³ +³ accurately and the ability to recreate aspects of the ³ +³ world based on perceptions. ³ +³ ³ +³- Musical intelligence: Sensitivity to pitch, melody and ³ +³ tone. ³ +³ ³ +³- Bodily kinesthetic intelligence: Fine-tuned ability to use³ +³ the body and handle objects. ³ +³ ³ +³- Interpersonal intelligence: The ability to notice and make³ +³ distinctions among others. ³ +³ ³ +³- Intrapersonal intelligence: Access to one's own feelings ³ +³ in life. ³ +³ ³ +³The report is presented to you because there seems to be, ³ +³according to "experiencers", considerable differences in ³ +³comprehension between the captives and the "Alien" crews who³ +³subject them to examinations and other exercises. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3012.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3012.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..259c79e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3012.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +SUBJECT: 1991 SUMMARY RECAP DATA - UFO SIGHTINGS FILE: UFO3012 + + + + + +1991 SUMMARY RECAP DATA - UFO SIGHTINGS + +-------------------------------------------------------- +Annual Total................................ 201 Reports +Peak Month......................... January 15% of Total +Geographical Span............................ 66% of USA +Leading State.................... Florida 26.8% of Total +Peak Distribution Month)............. 21st to 31st 34.4% +Peak Time of Day.................. 8-9 P.M. 21% ot Total +Lull Time of Day...... 6 A.M - 5 P.M...... 9.3% of Total +Peak Day of Week............... Wednesday 18.1% of Total +Lull Day of Week.................. Monday 11.7% of Total +Peak Reports by Shape Class........ + Lights/Illuminations....... 57.4% of Total +Lull Reports by Shape Class........ + Rectangular ............... 2.6% of Total +Peak Reports by Hynek Class........ + Nocturnal Lights........... 74.4% of Total +Peak Duration of Report.................. 3 to 9 Minutes +Sightings Reporting Sound................ 8.3% of Total +Sightings Reporting No Sound............. 91.7% of Total +Sightings During Daytime Visibility...... 9.2% of Total +Sightings During Twilight Visibility..... 4.6% of Total +Sightings During Nighttime Visibility.... 86.2% of Total +Reports Described as Objects/Shapes + .......................... 42.6% of Total +Reports Described as Lights llluminations. + .......................... 57.4% of Total +Multiple Witness Reports ................ 68.8% of Total +Signal Witness Reports................... 31.2% of Total +Most Common Sound Reported.......................... HUM +Leading Single UFO Description.................... LIGHT +Top Five Ranking States.............. FL, IN, CA, NC, PA +Recurring Sighting Locations......... 20 Towns/13 States + + +FIVE YEAR SUMMARY DATA ON 1000 UFO REPORTS + 1986 THRU 1990 + +An important aspect of the UFO Data Base is to com- +pare Annual Data to the cumulative average data +compiled over time. With 1000 UFO reports in the data +base, it is now possible to compare the 1991 data and +look for any significant changes in the data. Below is +the five year recap data on those 1000 sightings. + +1986 - 1990 SUMMARY DATA BREAKDOWN +-------------------------------------------------------- +Peak year for UFO reports................. 1988 with 291 +Peak year/Month of reports......... October 1989 with 47 +Combined Peak Month over 5 years + .............. October.. 13% of total +Combined Lull Month................. June. 4.3% of total +Peak State Reporting over 5 years + ............ Indiana.. 21.5% of total +Combined Peak Time of Day......... 9 PM.... 17% of total +Combined Lull Time of Day......... 8 AM... 0.4% of total +Combined Peak day of Week..... Wednesday..17.1% of total +Combined Lull Day of Week..... Saturday...10.6% of total +Combined Peak Reports by Shape Class + Lights/llluminations..... 35.7% of total +Combined Lull Reports by Shape Class + Rectangular........... 3.0% of total +Combined Hynek Class...Nocturnal Lights.. 66.7% of total +Peak Duration of Reports..1 to 5 minutes. 20.6% of total +Combined Sightings Reporting Sounds...... 12.5% of total +Comblned Sightings Reporting No Sound.... 87.5% of total +Reports During Daytime Visibility........ 9.5% of total +Reports During Twilight Visibillty....... 5.6% of total +Reports During Night Time Visibility..... 84.9% of total +Reports Described as Objects/Shapes...... 60.0% of total +Reports Described as Lights/llluminations.40.0% of total +Combined Multiple Witness Reports........ 36.6% of total +Most Common Sound Reported............... HUM +Top 5 Ranking States over 5 Years........ IN,FL,PA,CA,MI +---------------------------------------------------------- + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3013.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3013.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..93ba26cd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3013.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,997 @@ + +SUBJECT: THE 1992 CANADIAN UFO SURVEY FILE: UFO3013 + + + + + + + + * + ^^^^^^^^^^^ + / .................. \ + =========================== + + + + + + The 1992 + CANADIAN UFO SURVEY + + + Compiled by + Chris A. Rutkowski + + + Contributors: ____________ + + Paul Anderson + Roy Bauer + Grant Cameron + Daniel Clairmont + Graham Conway + Lorne Goldfader + Robert Hawkes + Gordon Kijek + Victor Lourenco + Christian Page + Michael Strainic + Tom Theophanous + Ruth Walde + Bonnie Wheeler + + + + Published by + Ufology Research of Manitoba + Box 1918 + Winnipeg, Manitoba + Canada R3C 3R2 + + + + The 1992 Canadian UFO Survey + + + Since 1989, UFO case data has been solicited from all known and active +investigators and researchers in Canada for analyses and comparison with +other compilations. Before that time, individual researchers would +normally maintain their own files, with little or no communication with +others. Even representatives of major UFO organizations often do not +regularly submit case data, and the parent organizations themselves tend +not to do much analyses with the data they do receive. + + + After favourable responses from the publication of previous Canadian +UFO Surveys, UFOROM decided to continue the systematic collection of raw +UFO report data in Canada and prepare yearly reports for general +circulation. It has been always felt that the dissemination of such data +would be of great advantage to researchers, so it is presented here once +again as data with some analysis. + + + The response from Canadian researchers to requests for 1992 data was +better than in previous years. More cases were submitted from more +investigators, including those in Ontario, resulting in a marked increase +in the number of cases used in the analyses. While this prevents direct +comparisons with previous years, this has the advantage of being more +comprehensive. There are still those researchers, however, who, for +whatever reasons, do not submit cases for the annual survey. In addition, +some researchers do not maintain useable case files and do not retain +quantitative criteria in their investigations (for example, contactee +groups). It is now suspected that only a small fraction of "active" +ufologists and self-proclaimed "researchers" actually investigate cases and +maintain useable records. + + + In 1989, 141 UFO reports were obtained for analysis. In 1990, 194 +reports were recorded. In 1991, 165 reports were received. In 1992, 223 +cases were examined. These reports came from contributing investigators' +files, press clippings and the files of the National Research Council of +Canada. The NRC routinely receives UFO reports from private citizens and +from RCMP, civic police and military personnel. + + + The number of cases in 1992 represents a 35% increase over the +previous year, which had been a 15% decrease from that of 1990. Assuming +an average of 180 cases per year, the variation is uniform in either +direction, and we can suggest that the number of UFO reports per year in +Canada is relatively constant, even allowing for the influx of cases from +new contributors. + + + In 1992, there were apparent significant increases in the number of +reports in Manitoba, while there was an apparent decrease in reports in +Alberta and Quebec. As usual, British Columbia represents the largest +fraction of UFO reports of all the provinces. Since 1990, BC has garnered +between 35% and 40% of the total number of cases per year. As mentioned in +previous annual reports, this is partly due to the highly efficient UFO +reporting system in that province, and the comparatively large number of +active investigators. The rest of the Provinces appear to have had average +numbers of reports in 1991. + + + TABLE 1 + Distribution of UFO Reports by Province + + + BC AB SK MB ON PQ NB PEI NS NF YK NWT + + 1989 15 16 18 22 34 28 1 - 3 3 - 1 + + 1990 76 9 10 20 21 36 7 3 5 4 1 2 + + 1991 59 22 7 6 30 16 9 1 7 4 1 - + + 1992 90 8 9 23 56 10 9 - 3 4 3 1 + + + The monthly breakdowns of reports during each year show slightly +different patterns from those of previous years. In 1989, there was a +significant increase in UFO reports in the late fall, with other months +maintaining what appeared to be a fairly constant "normal" level of +reports. But 1990 saw two major increases in report numbers in two months: +April and August. The "normal" level of monthly report numbers appeared to +be constant in other months, with minor fluctuations. In 1991, reports +peaked in August, but there was no single obvious trough, and there were an +abnormally large number of reports in the winter months. The 1992 +breakdown again shows no clear trend in monthly distribution. In fact, +reports are fairly evenly distributed throughout the year, with no marked +increase in reports in either summer or winter. This is curious, since +previous analyses of UFO reports have almost always shown a peak in the +summer months, as would be expected because most UFO sightings are simple +NLs and there are generally more outdoor observers available during the +summer months. This would be especially expected in Canada, where the +seasonal temperatures vary considerably, and there is much less evening +outdoor activity in the winter. Nevertheless, UFO report numbers were not +significantly less in the winter than in the summer. An average of 18 UFO +reports per month was calculated from the data. + + + + TABLE 2 + UFO Reports per Month + + + J F M A M J J A S O N D + + 1989 13 9 6 9 5 9 5 5 12 32 27 9 + + 1990 17 7 6 47 10 10 9 47 15 16 10 - + + 1991 13 7 17 12 7 12 16 25 16 12 11 17 + + 1992 15 16 27 16 22 16 23 19 11 16 21 21 + + + + Selecting only the cases labelled "unknown," two peaks are seen: one +in March and the other in July. Other months are distributed more evenly. +While it is tempting to regard these two peaks as real anomalies, given the +relatively small number of cases in the sample, it is more likely that they +are statistical artefacts. + + + + TABLE 2A + Monthly Breakdown of Unknowns + + J F M A M J J A S O N D + + 1992 2 2 8 3 5 4 11 1 3 4 5 1 + + + + An analysis by report type shows a similar breakdown to that found in +previous years. The numbers of cases of a particular type remained roughly +constant except for the category of Nocturnal Lights, which exhibited +nearly a twofold increase in 1990. However, numbers of NLs were closer to +a 1989 level in 1991. Relative numbers of specific report types remained +within a close range of previous years' values. Nocturnal lights, for +example, were 60% of all reports in 1989, 73% on 1990, 67% in 1991, and 61% +in 1992. In general, NLs can be said to comprise about two-thirds of all +UFO reports. + + + + TABLE 3 + UFO Report Types + + + NL ND DD CE1 CE2 CE3 CE4 EV RD PH + + 1989 84 20 16 10 7 - 2 2 - - + + 1990 141 24 15 2 1 - 4 3 - - + + 1991 110 26 13 7 4 1 2 - 1 1 + + 1992 135 44 20 13 5 2 3 - - 1 + + +For those unfamiliar with the categories, a summary follows: + + + NL (Nocturnal Light) - light source in night sky + + ND (Nocturnal Disc) - light source in night sky that appears to have a + definite shape + + DD (Daylight Disc) - unknown object observed during daytime hours + + CE1 (Close Encounter of the First Kind) - ND or DD occurring within + 200 metres of a witness + + CE2 (Close Encounter of the Second Kind) - CE1 where physical effects + left or noted + + CE3 (Close Encounter of the Third Kind) - CE1 where figures/entities + are encountered + + CE4 (Close Encounter of the Fourth Kind) - an alleged "abduction" or + "contact" experience + + EV (Evidence) - a case where physical traces left by an event are the + primary claim + + RD (Radar) - UFOs observed on radar + + PH (Photograph) - photograph(s) of a UFO, but no actual sighting + + + + The category of Nocturnal Disc was created by UFOROM for +differentiation within its own report files. Similarly, Evidence is also +an ad hoc creation, and may not be applicable by other researchers. +Normally, Evidence would include such physical traces as "crop circles", +"landing rings" and "saucer nests". However, in 1990 there was a great +increase in the numbers of such traces discovered in North America, and it +was decided to treat these as separate from UFO reports in these Surveys. +[For the record, there were 27 "crop circles" and related traces discovered +in Canada in 1990, 39 in 1991, and 46 in 1992. Many of these were +investigated by UFO researchers, and a few were reported to the NRC. +UFOROM is associated with the North American Institute for Crop Circle +Research, which investigates such cases and publishes separate reports on +its findings.] + + + The breakdown by evaluative conclusions for 1992 cases can be shown to +be similar to results from previous years. There were three operative +categories: Insufficient Information, Possible or Probable Explanation, and +Unknown. Readers are warned that a classification of Unknown does not +imply that an alien spacecraft was observed; no such interpretation can be +made with certainty, based on the given data (though the probability of +this scenario is admittedly never zero). In most cases, the evaluations +are made subjectively by both the contributing investigators and the +compiler of this report. The category of Unknown is adopted only if the +contributed data or case report contains enough information that a +conventional explanation cannot be satisfactorily proposed. This does not +mean that the case will never be explained, but only that a viable +explanation is not immediately obvious. + + + In 1992, a change was adopted in order to include Explained cases in +the statistics. While all categories of UFO reports were solicited from +investigators, few included Explained cases in their submissions because +they were not, by definition, unidentified flying objects. However, this +raises several concerns. First, it is known that many UFOs become IFOs +only after moderate investigative efforts. There is no question that many +cases in the Possible or Probable category are in fact IFOs. Second, +previous studies of UFO reports, including Blue Book and the Colorado +project, tabulated IFOs as Explained cases and indicated these conclusions +in their reports. Third, whether consciously or subconsciously, +researchers may discard IFO cases as unnecessary and not submit them for +the total analyses. This will, naturally, skew the statistics in favour of +UFOs. As an illustration, one contributor to the annual survey noted that +"dozens" of other UFO reports were received but not tabulated because they +were immediately discernable as IFOs. + + + In 1991, two UFO reports were Explained, but not included in the +statistical calculations. In 1992, 17 were Explained, and were used in the +annual breakdown of data. + + + The hourly distribution of cases tended to follow the same pattern for +1992 as in previous years. There appears to be a peak near 2200 hours +local and a trough around 1000 hours local. In 1992, a secondary peak near +2300 hours local was also evident. + + + TABLE 4 + UFO Reports by Conclusion + + + 1989 1990 1991 1992 + # % # % # % # % + + Insufficient Info. 74 52.5 90 46.4 80 49.1 83 37 + + Poss./Prob. Expl. 47 33.3 78 40.2 69 42.3 74 33 + + Unknown 20 14.2 26 13.4 14 8.6 49 22 + + Explained - - - - (2) - 17 8 + + + + The average number of witnesses per case went down from a value of +2.12/case in 1989 to 1.4/case in 1990, then up again to 1.91/case in 1991. +In 1992, the average number of witnesses was up again, at 2.36/case. It is +not known what this may indicate. It is possible that there might have +been a tendency for only one of a pair or group of witnesses to report an +incident in some situations, and, hence, this value would wax or wane +depending on the social factor. This may have been true in the NRC files, +which may not reflect the total number of witnesses sharing a UFO +experience. However, these figures still show that a typical UFO +experience has more than one witness, supporting the contention that UFO +sightings represent observations of physical phenomena. In fact, other +studies, including the 1992 analyses, suggest that the typical UFO +experience is shared by at least two witnesses. + + + The category of Duration is interesting in that it represents the +subjective length of time the UFO experience lasted. Naturally, these +times are greatly suspect because it is known that people tend to misjudge +the flow of time. However, some people can be good at estimating time, so +this value has some meaning. Although an estimate of "one hour" may be in +error by several minutes, it is unlikely that the correct value would be, +for example, one minute (disregarding the claims of "missing time" during +the abduction category of experiences). Furthermore, there have been cases +when a UFO was observed and clocked accurately, so that we can be +reasonably certain that UFO events can last considerable periods of time. +The average duration of a sighting can be calculated as a summation of all +given durations then divided by the number of cases with a stated duration. +The resulting value for 1991 was about 12 minutes, down from 19 minutes in +1990. In 1992, the value is again around 12 minutes. This surprisingly +long duration is likely due to the large number of sightings lasting only a +few seconds combined with a few that lasted several hours. + + + In cases where a colour of an object was reported in 1992, the most +common colour was white (55 cases), followed distantly by red (24 cases). +Other colours were also represented, although there is a noticeable change +from previous years, when green was a dominant colour. Since most UFOs are +nocturnal starlike objects, the abundance of white objects is not +surprising. The green coloured objects were, in general, bolides, which +were seen in significant numbers in 1991 and 1992. + + +Summary of Results +------------------ + + + As with previous annual Surveys, the 1992 Survey does not offer any +positive proof of the physical reality of UFOs. However, it does show that +some phenomenon which is called a UFO is continually being observed by +witnesses. The typical UFO sighting is that of two people observing a +moving, distant white or red light for a period of over 15 minutes. In +most cases, the UFO is likely to be eventually identified as a conventional +object such as an astronomical object. However, in a small percentage of +cases, some UFOs do not appear to have an easy explanation and they may be +given the label of "unknown". + + + What are these "unknowns"? An additional classification is useful to +try and better understand this kind of report. In the gathering of data +for the study, a value was assigned for a personal evaluation of the +Reliability of the report. This value gives the likelihood that a UFO +experience "really" occurred as described by the witness. Granted, it is +impossible for any investigator to judge this absolute value; often, a +subjective value for two categories of "strangeness" and "reliability" is +assigned. The Reliability value is a subjective value imposed by the +investigator or compiler (or both) with a scale such that the low values +represent cases with little information content and observers of limited +observing abilities and the higher values represent those cases with +excellent witnesses (pilots, police, etc.) and also are well-investigated. +Naturally, cases with higher values are preferred. The Strangeness value +is another subjective evaluation of the case, and assigned a value of 0 to +9, based on the peculiarity of the experience. NLs with little variance +from the appearance of a star or aircraft are given low Strangeness values, +while cases involving entities or structured craft observed at close range +(and therefore unlikely to be conventional objects) are given high +Strangeness values. + + + The average Reliability of reports was 6.21, and the average +Strangeness was 5.64. In other words, most UFO reports are only slightly +unusual (perhaps a light maneuvering in an odd manner unlike an aircraft's +normal flight pattern), and are either minimally-investigated, reported by +average observers, or both. + + + More revealing is the ratio of Strangeness/Reliability. This is a +measure of the unusual nature of a case versus its information content. A +ratio of unity suggests that an "uninteresting" case, probably explained +easily as a conventional object, has a low information content. +Alternatively, unity can suggest a case with high Strangeness, perhaps a +Close Encounter, has high information content and is well-investigated. A +ratio near zero implies a conventional object that is well-observed and is +well-investigated. A ratio greater than unity implies a report has high +strangeness but low information content. A possible such case would be a +close encounter case that is not well-investigated, and may be more +anecdotal than "real". + + + Explained reports had an average S/R ratio of 0.586. Cases with +Possible or Probable explanations had an average ratio of 0.690. Cases +with Insufficient Information had ratios greater than unity, at 1.062, and +Unknown cases had an average ratio of 1.092. From these values, we can +suggest that as the Strangeness of reports increase, so does their +likelihood of being poorly investigated and of having less credible +witnesses. + + + Cases were coded and entered into an ACCESS database on a common PC +clone environment. The coding key is as follows: + +Example: + 9920115 1636 BC Fort Nelson DD 6 7 1.30 2 Red Disc P Sound heard + +Field: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 + + Field 1 is the date, in YYYMMDD format (UFOROM is now coding to allow + for the next millennium). + + Field 2 is the time, according to the 24-hour clock, local time. + + Field 3 is the Province. + + Field 4 is the Geographical Location, or common map name. + + Field 5 is the Modified Hynek Classification. + + Field 6 is the Strangeness, as described in the text. + + Field 7 is the Reliability, as described in the text. + + Field 8 is the duration of the sighting, in minutes and seconds + (i.e. 2 minutes, 15 seconds is 002.15) + + Field 9 is the number of witnesses. + + Field 10 is the colour of the primary object. + + Field 11 is the shape of the primary object. + + Field 12 is the Conclusion given to the case: I = Insufficient + information for an assessment; P = Possible or probable explanation, + given the facts; E = Explained; or U = Unknown or unexplained at the + present time. + + Field 13 contains any short comments that distinguish individual + cases. + + + + A further breakdown of Unknowns can be done to select only those cases +with high Reliability (i.e. Reliability 8). In the 1991 study, only 12 +cases (7.3%) were high-reliability unknowns. In 1992, this number was 17 +cases (7.62%). This agrees reasonably well with the 1989 results (4.9%) +and with the 1990 results (4.6%), but is slightly higher for reasons that +could include sampling techniques and inconsistent subjective evaluations. + + + + The 1992 high-reliability cases were the following: + + + ND Case 9920122 1940 NB Woodstock + NL Case 9920202 2000 NB Hartland + ND Case 9920304 2130 ON Toronto + ND Case 9920419 0130 NF Gander + PH Case 9920502 1200 BC Kelowna + C1 Case 9920503 2010 BC Squamish + NL Case 9920513 2204 BC Langley + ND Case 9920624 0015 BC Vancouver + DD Case 9920703 0840 BC Kyuquot + ND Case 9920717 2200 AB Fairview + NL Case 9920720 1215 ON Toronto * + ND Case 9920720 2358 MB Winnipeg + ND Case 9920721 2330 MB Winnipeg + C1 Case 9920915 2300 BC Summerland + ND Case 9921007 1930 SK Moosomin + C4 Case 9921101 0200 MB Winnipeg + C1 Case 9921127 2000 SK Saskatoon + + + The interpretation of this list is that these cases were among the +most challenging of all the reports received in 1992. It should be noted +that many UFO cases go unreported, and that there may be ten times as many +UFO sightings that go unreported as those which get reported to public, +private or military agencies. Furthermore, it should be noted that some +cases with lower reliability ratings suffer only from incomplete +investigations, and that they may well be more mysterious than those on the +above list. + + + NL Case 9920720 has erroneous data, as 1215 is hardly a nocturnal +time. The single C4 case needs some explanation as well. In general, +Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind are "abductions," and are difficult to +use as data in analyses. Often, C4s occur throughout an experiencer's +life. Furthermore, an exact time of an abduction is rarely given or +deduced by investigators. In fact, some C4s are only uncovered through the +(controversial) use of hypnosis, and the time of occurrence is vague or in +dispute. Because abduction experiences are difficult to pigeonhole into +various rigid categories and time constraints, it is usually inadvisable to +include such cases in UFO report analyses. The C4 case included in the +above list did seem to provide enough data for inclusion. The date and +time were accurately known, and represented a single event, not an ongoing +series of experiences. In addition, the witness voluntarily provided +details of the experience and submitted to an investigation. + + + In future analyses of UFO data, it is unlikely that similar C4s will +be included. The experiences do not lend themselves to statistical +comparisons with other UFO reports, and can be interpreted in many ways. +The C4s included in the 1992 Canadian UFO Survey provided insight into the +problems involved in their objective evaluation. + + + We have learned that UFOs are constantly being reported at a rate of +about ten per month across all of Canada, and one or two per month in most +provinces. Witnesses range from farmhands to airline pilots and from +teachers to police. Witnesses represent all age groups and racial origin. +What is being observed? In most cases, only ordinary objects. However, +this begs a question. If people are reporting things that can be +explained, then the objects they observed were "really" there. Were the +objects we can't identify "really" there as well? If so, what were they? + + + These are questions only continued, rational research can answer, and +only if researchers have the support and encouragement of both scientists +and the public. + + + + +Chris A. Rutkowski +Ufology Research of Manitoba +Winnipeg, Manitoba + +29 March 1992 + + + Further Comments + + + It is most instructive to compare the UFOROM analyses with those of +the National Sighting Research Center of New Jersey, headed by Paul +Ferrughelli. The NSRC results have been reported in a series of +publications, a recent one being the National Sighting Yearbook 1991. The +NSRC collected UFO reports from newspaper clippings and UFO publications, +and analyzed the raw UFO data. Because of the difference in data sources, +a comparison with the UFOROM results will not be true. However, it is +still interesting to compare the two studies. + + + The NSRC tabulated a total of 195 American UFO reports in 1990, and +197 in 1992. These numbers are comparable with those of Canada for the +same years. However, because of the larger population, it is likely that +the USA had many, many more sightings that were never obtained through the +NSRC's sampling technique. + + + The NSRC study revealed essentially a reversed monthly distribution +for UFO reports compared with Canada. Whereas US sightings peaked in the +winter and had a noticeable trough in the summer, the Canadian peaks are +traditionally in the summer. However, the 1991 Canadian distribution was +much more even, with peaks in both winter and summer. Grouping the two +studies together yields a monthly distribution with troughs in mid-summer +and mid-winter, with slight variations month-to-month. It is possible to +speculate that with adequate report sampling, there would be no monthly +variation in the number of sightings, except for major flaps which would be +more noticeable in an international survey. The 1992 monthly distribution +is much more uniform, The 1992 American data had monthly distribution +peaks in March, September and October. No such peaks were evident in the +Canadian data. + + + Like the Canadian study, the American data was unevenly distributed +throughout the country. Most American reports in the 1991 study generally +came from just two states, Florida and Indiana. The Florida flap is likely +due to the Gulf Breeze reports which receive a great deal of media +attention. The distribution of sighting duration was nearly identical to +the Canadian study. The average duration of a typical UFO sighting is +about 15 minutes. + + + For the hourly distribution of UFO cases, the American study found a +symmetrical distribution with a pronounced peak at 9 PM local time and a +trough at around 9 AM local time. Canadian distributions are normally +about one hour later in each peak, but are otherwise identical in +distribution. Breakdown by Hynek classification yields identical +distributions within both American and Canadian studies, with NLs being +overwhelmingly predominant. + + + In summary, Ferrughelli's analyses of American UFO data yield results +remarkably similar to the UFOROM Canadian studies, despite the differences +in collection procedures. The most marked discrepancy between the two +studies was in the monthly distribution of UFO reports. This was probably +an artefact of the NSRC sampling technique, which does not involve +solicitation of UFO reports from investigators but significantly relies +upon newspaper accounts for many of its cases. The two studies are +complementary, and will aid further research into the UFO phenomenon. + + +[Reference: Ferrughelli, P. National Sighting Yearbook 1991. National + Sighting Research Center, 60 Allen Drive, Wayne, NJ 07470.] + + +Here is the data from the 1992 Canadian UFO Survey in text format. This +may be imported into most batabase programs as an ASCII-delimited file. + +1,9920105,2300,BC,SQUAMISH,NL,1,2,.02,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,SUSPECTED + METEORITE +2,9920107,245,BC,SARDIS,NL,5,4,7.5,2,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,I,JUMPING STAR +3,9920212,603,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,1,4,20,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,CONVENTIONAL + AIRCRAFT? +4,9920215,1425,BC,SURREY,DD,5,4,1,1,,IRREGULAR,I,ODD-SHAPED CLOUD AND LIGHT +5,9920216,2100,BC,LADYSMITH,NL,2,2,10,2,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,STAR +6,9920220,2305,BC,QUESNEL,NL,7,6,55,3,,RECTANGLE,I,PLATE WITH COLUMNS? +7,9920223,300,BC,RICHMOND,NL,5,4,5,1,,IRREGULAR,I,CHANGED SHAPE SEVERAL + TIMES +8,9920307,1200,BC,SURREY,DD,7,5,20,1,SILVER,DISC,U,OBJECT APPEARED METALLIC + AND STRUCTURED +9,9920309,2000,BC,SURREY,ND,3,5,10,1,VARIABLE,OVAL,I,CHANGED COLOURS +10,9920309,200,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,ND,2,5,60,1,RED,POINT SOURCE,P,RED AND + BLUE FLASHING LIGHTS +11,9920311,2205,BC,PENTICTON,NL,1,4,.01,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,METEORITE +12,9920317,2111,BC,PRINCE GEORGE,NL,7,7,.3,2,GREEN,IRREGULAR,U, LONG, + GREEN, FLUORESCENT TUBE +13,9920317,1330,BC,KITTIMAT,NL,7,5,15,1,,CRESCENT,U,1/4 MOON-SHAPED OBJECT, + MOVING +14,9920318,305,BC,HORSESHOE BAY,NL,2,5,.03,1,WHITE,IRREGULAR,P,SLOW, BRIGHT + STREAK +15,9920320,1315,BC,VANCOUVER,DD,7,6,1,2,,SQUARE,I, +16,9920321,1000,BC,HEFFLEY CREEK,NL,3,4,30,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,STROBE, + FLASHES +17,9920326,25,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,3,5,5,3,,POINT SOURCE,I,SATELLITE +18,9920327,2310,BC,RICHMOND,NL,1,5,60,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,PLANET +19,9920401,1600,BC,MISSION,C1,8,7,45,2,,,I,OBJECT SEEN IN THE SKY +20,9920401,300,BC,WHITE ROCK,NL,5,4,.1,1,,POINT SOURCE,I,ROTATING, THEN + SPLIT IN TWO +21,9920402,215,BC,LILLOOET,NL,4,3,1,1,,POINT SOURCE,I,LIGHTS JUMPING UP AND + DOWN +22,9920404,115,BC,NEW WESTMINISTER,NL,6,6,.15,1,,TRIANGLE,P, +23,9920510,2100,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,NL,1,2,.1,1,,,I, +24,9920520,2330,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,5,3,2,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,7 LIGHTS, + ALTERNATING FLASHES +25,9920524,0,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,NL,6,6,10,1,,TRIANGLE,U,V SHAPED OBJECT, NO + SOUND +26,9920528,1500,BC,SURREY,DD,4,3,5,2,,,I,OBJECT WAS MOVING OVER POWER LINES +27,9920603,1845,BC,WHISTLER,NL,7,7,.25,1,,IRREGULAR,U,TOP-SHAPED OBJECT, + HOVERED +28,9920604,2015,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,7,5,2,2,,IRREGULAR,U,SILENT PLATFORM IN SKY +29,9920606,2000,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,1,2,.01,1,,,I, +30,9920612,1924,BC,PITT MEADOWS,NL,7,2,12,1,,,I,OPAQUE OBJECT; + ALTERNATIVELY MOVING AND STOPPING +31,9920703,840,BC,KYUQUOT,DD,8,8,90,1,,OVOID,U,SOLID-APPEARING EGG; SEEN + FROM TUGBOAT +32,9920708,2340,BC,SURREY,NL,1,2,.02,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,METEORITE +33,9920710,27,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,6,6,15,25,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,E,LASER SHINING + ON CLOUDS +34,9920711,2135,BC,CHILLIWACK,NL,4,4,120,1,,,I,UNDEFINED OBJECT, MOVING +35,9920716,1910,BC,SURREY,NL,1,2,.1,1,WHITE,,E,CAR LIGHTS +36,9920719,305,BC,WEST VANCOUVER,C3,9,6,1,2,,,U,ENCOUNTER WITH ENTITIES +37,9920817,100,BC,SURREY,NL,4,4,15,4,,,U, +38,9920818,1918,BC,COQUITLAM,NL,4,2,.1,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,E,DISTANT + HELICOPTER +39,9920831,320,BC,DUNCAN,NL,8,6,60,2,,IRREGULAR,I,CYLINDER WITH ARMS +40,9920901,1530,BC,VANCOUVER,DD,6,3,30,2,,ROUND,I,MOVING FAST +41,9920906,1650,BC,WEST VANCOUVER,NL,2,2,25,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,E,STAR +42,9921011,0,BC,NELSON,NL,5,5,.03,3,,SPHERE,I,BOUNCING BALL IN SKY +43,9921013,2100,BC,SECHELT,ND,7,6,40,1,,DISC,U,ROCKING BACK AND FORTH +44,9921015,2245,BC,VANCOUVER,ND,5,3,.05,1,,ROUND,I,ROUND OBJECT WITH LIGHTS +45,9921021,23,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,NL,6,3,10,2,,,I,FLUORESCENT LIGHT +46,9921021,250,BC,BURNABY,NL,6,5,2,1,,,I,3 SMALL OBJECTS, ONE LARGE +47,9921029,1930,BC,VERNON,NL,2,2,.1,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,STAR +48,9921116,30,BC,DELTA,ND,7,3,4,1,,TRIANGLE,U,DELTA WING; NOISE HEARD +49,9921119,535,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,1,2,.15,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,BUOY OR BOAT LIGHT +50,9921205,2000,BC,WILLIAMS LAKE,ND,7,6,8,1,,ROUND,U,BLINKING OBJECT +51,9921213,2310,BC,WHITE ROCK,NL,2,3,60,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,OBJECT + BOBBING IN THE AIR +52,9921214,2300,BC,WHITE ROCK,NL,2,3,90,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,OBJECT + BOBBING IN THE AIR +53,9921225,430,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,NL,8,3,30,1,,IRREGULAR,I,PENCIL SHAPE, + THEN FANNED OUT +54,9920829,120,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,C2,9,7,30,2,,,I,DOG'S FUR CAME OUT AFTER + ENCOUNTER +55,9921123,2320,BC,BURNABY,NL,5,4,5,1,,CIGAR,I,TORPEDO-SHAPED OBJECT +56,9921207,1915,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,6,2,60,1,WHITE,,E,SEARCHLIGHT +57,9920112,1900,ON,LAMBTON,C4,9,6,30,1,WHITE,,I,'ABDUCTION'? +58,9920120,2000,NB,WOODSTOCK,NL,8,8,10,10,,POINT SOURCE,I,VIDEO TAKEN BY + SOME WITNESSES +59,9920120,200,ON,BRACEBRIDGE,C4,9,6,30,2,,,I,'ABDUCTION'; ENTITIES SEEN +60,9920124,2215,BC,ALEXIS CREEK,ND,8,8,1,3,YELLOW,TRIANGLE,I,DELTA, SLOW + MOVING +61,9920126,1945,ON,LAMBTON,C1,7,8,60,4,ORANGE,POINT SOURCE,P,PHOTOS TAKEN; + STAR? +62,9920200,2000,ON,MISSISSAUGA,ND,8,5,1,3,,DISC,I,SUCER WITH LIGHTS +63,9920202,2000,NB,HARTLAND,NL,9,9,2.5,2,,TRIANGLE,U,VIDEO OF TRIANGLES; + 'BOW TIE' +64,9920218,630,BC,KAMLOOPS,C1,6,8,.15,1,RED,,P,CAME WITHIN 100FT; + DISAPPEARED +65,9920218,630,BC,KAMLOOPS,ND,6,8,.2,1,BLUE,ROUND,P,SHINY BALL WITH TAIL +66,9920218,630,BC,KAMLOOPS,ND,6,8,.1,2,BLUE,ROUND,P,SILVER/BLUE OBJ. WITH + TAIL +67,9920218,1830,BC,COQUITLAM,NL,6,8,.2,2,WHITE,,E,'BLOWTORCH LIGHT' +68,9920218,1825,BC,RICHMOND,NL,6,8,.1,1,BLUE,,P,BOLIDE? +69,9920218,1830,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,6,8,.15,2,GREEN,,E,BOLIDE +70,9920218,630,BC,KAMLOOPS,NL,4,9,.1,20,BLUE,,E,BOLIDE +71,9920311,230,YK,WHITEHORSE,NL,7,8,2,2,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,GROUP OF + ROTATING LIGHTS +72,9920312,1830,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,5,9,.15,2,WHITE,,P,'LIGHT STREAK' +73,9920326,1730,BC,SURREY,NL,9,7,5,1,YELLOW,POINT SOURCE,U,BRIGHT LIGHT + ENTERED CLOUD; DISSIPATED +74,9920415,600,YK,WHITEHORSE,C1,9,7,2.3,10,SILVER,BALL,U,GLOBE;BLINKING + LIGHT;FLEW THRU VALLEY +75,9920419,130,NF,GANDER,ND,8,9,8,3,RED,RECTANGLE,U,VIDEO OF WHITE OBJ + W/RED UNDERCARRIAGE +76,9920501,1945,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,ND,6,6,1,4,RED,,I, +77,9920502,1200,BC,KELOWNA,PH,8,8,5,3,,,U,HORSES REACTING;PHOTO OF SAUCER + IMAGE +78,9920503,2010,BC,SQUAMISH,C1,9,8,4,3,ORANGE,DISC,U,SLOW-MOVING;DISCONTINUOUS + TRAJECTORY +79,9920503,2130,BC,VANCOUVER,ND,7,8,.15,2,GREY,CIGAR,P,OBJ W/DULL GLOW;VERY + FAST;1000FT? +80,9920504,2350,BC,WHITE ROCK,C1,8,7,2,2,SILVER,DISC,U,SILVER/ORANGE DISC + MOVING AT TREETOP LEVEL +81,9920506,2015,BC,WEST VANCOUVER,NL,6,8,.3,1,RED,OVAL,I,HOVERED; MOVED AWAY +82,9920513,2204,BC,LANGLEY,NL,7,9,3,1,RED,POINT SOURCE,U,3 LIGHTS MOVING + TOGETHER +83,9920517,2130,BC,NEW WESTMINSTER,C1,8,5,10,3,SILVER,DISC,I,DISC WITH BLUE + 'LASER BEAMS' +84,9920600,2000,YK,WHITEHORSE,ND,7,7,5,10,BLACK,TRIANGLE,U,TRIANGLE WITH + LIGHTS: AURORA AIRCRAFT? +85,9920602,1240,ON,PORT PERRY,NL,7,9,.25,6,YELLOW,POINT SOURCE,P,MAGNESIUM + FLARES +86,9920624,15,BC,VANCOUVER,ND,8,8,1.3,1,ORANGE,TRIANGLE,U,ORANGE GLOW + W/WHITE HAZE; LIGHTS ON EDGE +87,9920710,2300,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,NL,8,9,.3,3,WHITE,POINT + SOURCE,P,'METEOR' DESCENDED THEN ROSE AGAIN +88,9920720,1215,ON,TORONTO,NL,8,8,4,3,RED,,U,'LASER' SHINING ON GROUND; + ANIMALS SCARED +89,9920810,2000,AB,GUY,ND,8,4,1.3,3,GREY,DISC,I,PALE DISC, FLASH OF LIGHT +90,9920813,1250,ON,HAMILTON,NL,7,8,2,5,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,I,VIDEO TAKEN + NEAR BINBROOK +91,9920824,2000,SK,SASKATOON,NL,8,9,20,20,YELLOW,,E,MILITARY EXERCISE +92,9920915,2300,BC,SUMMERLAND,C1,9,8,20,3,GREY,DISC,U,'BIGGER THAN HOUSE'; + BLUE BEAM +93,9921007,1930,SK,MOOSOMIN,ND,8,8,10,1,BLACK,DISC,U,DISC WITH LIGHTS + MANEUVERED NR. WITNESS +94,9921025,1400,BC,NORTH VANCOUVER,DD,7,8,15,2,WHITE,,P,'HI-TECH' PLANE + FLYING NR. OTHER PLANES; NO SOUND +95,9921103,1745,BC,CAMPBELL RIVER,ND,7,7,.3,2,GREY,TRIANGLE,U,'WING' WITH + LIGHTS ON EDGES +96,9921126,1820,BC,OLIVER,NL,7,7,1.5,1,ORANGE,POINT SOURCE,I,SIGHTINGS ALSO + REPORTED IN USA +97,9921126,1950,SK,SASKATOON,NL,5,9,480,4,RED,POINT SOURCE,P,'YO-YO + MOVEMENTS'; PROBABLE STAR +98,9921126,2000,SK,SASKATOON,NL,6,8,60,10,,,I,MANY REPORTS OF OBJ. & LIGHTS +99,9921127,2000,SK,SASKATOON,C1,8,8,.45,1,GREY,TRIANGLE,U,'BOOMERANG' + OVERFLEW CAR; LIGHTS ON EDGES +100,9921200,2000,BC,108 MILE HOUSE,ND,8,8,1,4,BLUE,CYLINDER,I,LARGE + CYLINDERS MOVING AT TREETOP LEVEL +101,9921200,200,BC,HORSESHOE BAY,C1,8,9,20,1,YELLOW,,I,INTENSE LIGHT OVER + CAR, FOLLOWED WITNESS +102,9921218,400,BC,LAC LA HACHE,C3,9,7,30,1,,,I,3 ENTITIES SEEN BY CHILD; + VERY UPSET +103,9920831,2215,NB,ALMA,NL,3,9,.06,1,BLUE,POINT SOURCE,E,BOLIDE +104,9920901,2220,NB,SACKVILLE,NL,3,9,.02,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,E,BOLIDE +105,9920913,2114,ON,LONDON,NL,3,9,.04,1,ORANGE,POINT SOURCE,E,BOLIDE +106,9920915,0,NB,SACKVILLE,NL,3,9,.02,1,,POINT SOURCE,E,BOLIDE +107,9921013,18,ON,LONDON,NL,3,9,.01,2,ORANGE,POINT SOURCE,E,BOLIDE, + FRAGMENTED +108,9921121,0,ON,OTTAWA,NL,3,5,.01,1,,POINT SOURCE,I,PROBABLE BOLIDE +109,9921203,2000,AB,FORT MCMURRAY,NL,3,9,.1,1,BLUE,POINT SOURCE,E,BOLIDE +110,9921209,2245,PQ,TADOUSSAC,NL,6,9,.02,1,,POINT SOURCE,I,'LOUD BANG' +111,9921216,645,SK,SASKATOON,NL,3,9,1,5,,POINT SOURCE,I,PROBABLE BOLIDE +112,9920325,2000,MB,CROSS LAKE,NL,7,7,30,2,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,VIDEO OF + 'STARS';APPARITION OF VIRGIN MARY +113,9920813,100,ON,WINONA,NL,6,7,20,1,ORANGE,POINT SOURCE,I,2 LIGHTS MOVING + NEAR CN TOWER +114,9920813,0,ON,HAMILTON,NL,5,5,15,1,WHITE,,I, +116,9920814,100,ON,HAMILTON,NL,6,7,2,1,ORANGE,,I,7 LIGHTS IN TRIANGULAR + FORMATION +117,9920505,2100,ON,BELMONT,DD,8,7,1,4,WHITE,DISC,P,5 PHOTOS IN SEQUENCE; + BLIMP? +118,9920112,1900,ON,SARNIA,ND,6,6,30,1,,,I,HOVERED,MOVED TOWARDS WITNESS +119,9920125,200,ON,GRAVENHURST,NL,5,4,5,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,OBJ. OVER TREES; + WITNESS 5 YRS. OLD +120,9920125,0,ON,PENETANGUSHING,NL,4,7,1,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,DISTANT LIGHT, + HIGH SPEED +121,9920320,2200,ON,HAMILTON,ND,7,7,2,2,RED,DISC,I,DISC FOLLOWED CAR +122,9920505,2230,ON,LONDON,NL,4,7,5,2,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,BRIGHT LIGHT + MOVING NEAR HORIZON +123,9920531,2345,ON,TORONTO,ND,6,7,5,1,WHITE,TRIANGLE,I,WEDGE-SHAPED OBJ. + WITH COLOURED LIGHTS +124,9920524,2000,ON,MISSISSAUGA,NL,3,6,3,6,WHITE,POINT + SOURCE,P,SLOW-MOVING; 1KM DISTANT? +125,9920530,2300,ON,SCARBOROUGH,NL,5,7,5,2,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,3 PAIRS OF + LIGHTS MOVING OVER LAKE +126,9920520,1600,ON,UXBRIDGE,DD,8,7,30,2,,TRIANGLE,I,HOVERING OBJECT; + 4000FT ALT.? +127,9920602,1600,ON,SCARBOROUGH,DD,7,7,3,2,SILVER,IRREGULAR,I,'BUMPY' OBJ. + VARYING SPEED +128,9920721,30,ON,TORONTO,NL,7,7,3,4,,,I,'LASER BEAM' ON GROUND; NOISE LIKE + TRUCK BRAKES +129,9920813,50,ON,GLANBROOK,ND,6,7,4,2,,ROUND,I,VIDEO OF HOVERING BRIGHT + OBJECT +130,9921024,2000,ON,POINT PELEE,NL,4,6,60,5,,POINT SOURCE,I,UNUSUAL DISTANT + LIGHTS +131,9921103,2000,ON,TORONTO,ND,6,6,.3,1,,TRIANGLE,I, +132,9921203,200,ON,TORONTO,NL,3,7,1,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,MULTIPLE + HOVERING LIGHTS +133,9920315,2215,ON,MISSISSAUGA,C1,8,6,4,2,GREEN,DISC,U,100 YDS AWAY; + METALLIC WITH LIGHTS +134,9920304,2130,ON,TORONTO,ND,8,8,45,8,GREEN,IRREGULAR,U,'FLUORESCENT + LIGHT' STATIONARY ABOVE CLOUDS +135,9920102,1630,NF,WESLEYVILLE,DD,6,6,6,1,BLACK,ROUND,I,NRC N92/1 +136,9920109,1720,PQ,AYLMER,DD,8,5,1,1,WHITE,DISC,U,NRC N92/2; DRAWING; 8 + YR. OLD GIRL; NOISE HEARD +137,9920117,1800,BC,TOFINO,ND,4,7,.1,2,YELLOW,TRIANGLE,E,NRC N92/3; BOLIDE +138,9920122,1940,NB,WOODSTOCK,ND,8,8,80,2,BLUE,TRIANGLE,U,NRC N92/4; 10 + MIN. VIDEO +139,9920117,2050,MB,BIRDS HILL PARK,NL,6,6,10,1,RED,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC + N92/5; 3 TRIOS OF LIGHTS NR. HORIZON +140,9920214,655,PQ,VICTORIAVILLE,NL,4,5,10,2,RED,ROUND,I,NRC N92/6; ROUGE + GLOBES, EN LIGNE +141,9920224,2005,NB,LAKEVILLE,NL,3,5,.1,1,RED,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/7; + LIGHTS FLASHING ACROSS A FIELD +142,9920303,20,BC,FORT NELSON,ND,7,6,2,3,GREEN,CIGAR,U,NRC N92/8; HOVERING + OBJ. WITH LIGHTS; ZIG-ZAGGED +143,9920304,1935,MB,THOMPSON,NL,3,7,.02,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/9; + PILOT OBSERVED FIREBALL +144,9920306,2145,NS,DALHOUSIE,NL,7,6,4,1,ORANGE,,I,NRC N92/11; + GLOWING,STOPPED THEN 'BURST AWAY' +145,9920310,217,,,NL,6,7,2,3,BLUE,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/12; PILOT&CREW + WITNESSES +146,9920311,1549,BC,,DD,7,5,1,3,,,I,NRC N92/13; SPINNING OBJECT WITH LIGHTS +147,9920314,0,,BUTTONVILLE,NL,3,6,.02,1,BLUE,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/14; + PROB. BOLIDE +148,9920306,2240,MB,THOMPSON,C2,9,6,15,3,BLUE,,P,NRC N92/10/17; HAIRY + CREATURE W/RED EYES +150,9920402,118,MB,MCCREARY,C1,8,6,.05,2,RED,,U,NRC N92/20;ROUND RED + 'BULBS' DISAPPEARED +151,9920402,2358,ON,THORNHILL,NL,4,6,2,2,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/21; + LIGHTS ZIG-ZAGGED +152,9920408,2200,NF,ST.JOHNS,NL,3,6,.15,1,,,P,NRC N92/22; FIREBALL W/SMOKE + TRAIL +153,9920411,346,MB,DAUPHIN,NL,6,6,5,1,RED,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/23; + 'LATER' LIGHT ON ROAD AHEAD +154,9920414,800,ON,OTTAWA,NL,3,6,.03,1,BLUE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/24; + PROB. BOLIDE +155,9920419,2000,NF,COBB,ND,6,6,2,2,ORANGE,ROUND,I,NRC N92/25; +156,9920426,10,NT,FORT SMITH,NL,3,6,.05,1,BLUE,,P,NRC N92/26; PROBABLE + BOLIDE; 'STREAK' +157,9920427,1200,ON,MERRICKVILLE,DD,7,6,.02,1,RED,CIGAR,I,NRC N92/27; + TORPEDO-SHAPED, FLASHING FIRE ON SIDES +158,9920427,0,,,NL,3,6,.05,1,GREEN,,P,NRC N92/28; BLUE TRAIL +159,9920429,2210,MB,WINNIPEG,NL,4,6,.15,2,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/29; + GROUPS OF LIGHTS, NO SOUND +160,9920507,2230,SK,RADISSON,NL,4,6,3,1,RED,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/30; + FLASHING LIGHT NR. HORIZON +161,9920524,900,PQ,THURSO,NL,3,6,.02,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/31; + ROND AVEC TRAINEE +162,9920500,2245,ON,OTTAWA,ND,4,5,6,1,WHITE,,I,NRC N92/32; OBLONG LIGHTS +163,9920601,2150,ON,,C1,7,6,6,2,RED,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/33; 'POWER + INTERRUPTION' AS LIGHT WAS SEEN +164,9920601,100,ON,,ND,5,5,5,1,WHITE,,I,NRC N92/34; 20X SIZE OF SUN, NR. + HORIZON +165,9920611,2330,ON,CORNWALL,NL,3,6,.1,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/35; + FALLING LIGHT +166,9920615,148,BC,SURREY,ND,4,7,.04,2,ORANGE,ROUND,P,NRC N92/36; FALLING + BALL, BROKE IN PIECES IN AIR +167,9920615,2200,ON,BRACEBRIDGE,ND,4,7,.02,2,WHITE,ROUND,P,NRC N92/37; + ORANGE&BLUE TAIL, SIZE OF MOON +168,9920622,0,PQ,STE-SABINE,DD,7,5,1,1,,DISC,I,NRC N92/38; PHOTO&SKETCH OF + SAUCER +169,9920628,2155,PQ,TROIS-RIVIERES,NL,4,6,.02,1,BLUE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC + N92/40; PROBABLE BOLIDE +170,9920706,323,AB,TABER,C2,8,7,10,1,BLACK,DISC,U,NRC N92/41; SAUCER 20M + AWAY, UGMS FOUND LATER +171,9920706,2215,ON,OTTAWA,ND,6,6,5,1,,OVAL,P,NRC N92/42; MCDONALD'S BLIMP? +172,9920715,2150,ON,,NL,4,6,10,1,RED,,I,NRC N92/43 'LARGE COMET' +173,9920715,2120,BC,NELSON,NL,3,6,.02,1,BLUE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/44; 3X + SIZE OF EVENING STAR +174,9920717,2200,AB,FAIRVIEW,ND,8,8,30,50,SILVER,IRREGULAR,U,NRC N92/45; + NOT A BALLOON, RCMP WITNESSES AS WELL +175,9920722,2200,NB,ALLARDVILLE,DD,8,7,5,4,WHITE,TRIANGLE,U,NRC N92/46; + DRAWING OF UNUSUAL CRAFT +176,9920728,2140,NS,BIG BADDECK,ND,7,7,.3,2,YELLOW,IRREGULAR,U,NRC N92/47; + LIGHT W/ZIG-ZAG APPENDAGE +177,9920729,2302,NB,FREDERICTON,NL,3,6,.01,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC + N92/48; PROBABLE BOLIDE +178,9920730,2324,BC,MISSION,ND,7,6,.15,1,YELLOW,DISC,I,NRC N92/49; UPPER + PART W/8 LIGHTS, YELLOW ON LOWER +179,9920818,2001,BC,VANCOUVER,NL,3,6,.1,1,ORANGE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/50; + PROBABLE BOLIDE +180,9920819,2300,AB,CALGARY,NL,6,6,3,1,ORANGE,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/51; + HUMMING SOUND +181,9920820,430,ON,,NL,6,6,30,1,,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/52; PILOT WITNESS + TO 15 LIGHTS IN ROWS +182,9920825,2320,ON,,ND,8,5,20,1,,DISC,I,NRC N92/53; 'UPSIDE DOWN SOUP + BOWL', HOVERING +183,9920831,310,PQ,MONTREAL,NL,6,5,20,1,,,I,NRC N92/54 +184,9920907,2020,SK,LA RONGE,NL,3,7,.02,1,YELLOW,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/55; + PROBABLE BOLIDE +185,9920907,2040,SK,LA RONGE,NL,3,7,.03,1,YELLOW,POINT SOURCE,E,NRC N92/55; + 'REAL PRETTY ONE', BOLIDE +186,9920913,905,,,NL,3,5,.1,1,ORANGE,,P,NRC N92/57; SMOKE TRAIL; BOLIDE +187,9920930,2300,PQ,HEMMINGFORD,DD,7,7,15,2,SILVER,TRIANGLE,U,NRC N92/58; + 'OVNI A TRES GRANDE CIRCONFERENCE' +188,9921007,1905,ON,OTTAWA,NL,7,6,.4,1,,,I,NRC N92/59; 4 LIGHTS IN SQUARE, + MOVING +189,9921009,1855,ON,,NL,4,7,.3,2,WHITE,,P,NRC N92/60; SEEN FRM PLANE OVER + LAKE ERIE +190,9921009,1930,ON,TORONTO,NL,4,6,.2,2,,,P,NRC N92/61; LINEAR LIGHT SEEN + FRM APT. +191,9921013,2100,AB,HYTHE,NL,6,6,120,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,U,NRC N92/62; + STROBE LIGHT IN DENSE FOREST +192,9921028,2030,NS,,NL,6,6,1,1,,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/63; MANY LIGHTS + SEEN +193,9921105,2224,,,NL,3,5,.4,1,,,P,NRC N92/64; LEFT SMOKE TRAIL +194,9921108,1830,MB,LUNDAR,C2,8,7,.1,1,WHITE,,U,NRC N92/65; CAR STOPPED + WHEN 'SPARKLERS' APPEARED +195,9921111,1800,PQ,POINTE-AU-TREMBLES,ND,7,6,30,1,RED,,I,NRC N92/66; 3 + LIGHTS BRIGHTER THEN DIMMER +196,9921119,130,,,NL,5,5,5,2,RED,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/67 +197,9921120,632,ON,OTTAWA,NL,3,6,.03,1,GREEN,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/68; + PROBABLE BOLIDE +198,9921120,640,ON,NORTH BAY,NL,3,6,.02,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/70 +199,9921121,2320,ON,OTTAWA,NL,6,6,15,2,YELLOW,POINT SOURCE,I,NRC N92/71; + FORMATIONS OF LIGHTS, HIGH ALTITUDE +200,9921127,2250,AB,FORT MCMURRAY,NL,5,6,1.5,2,RED,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC + N92/72; FLARE? +201,9921128,1930,AB,IRMA,NL,4,7,1,2,,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/73; PROBABLE + BOLIDE +202,9921205,2150,ON,,NL,4,5,10,1,BLUE,,I,NRC N92/74 +203,9921208,743,ON,VERNON,NL,4,6,.2,1,BLUE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/75; PROB. + BOLIDE +204,9921208,745,ON,OTTAWA,NL,3,6,.03,1,,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/76 +205,9921208,750,ON,,NL,4,5,.15,0,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,NRC N92/77 +206,9921209,1745,ON,,NL,5,5,25,2,ORANGE,ROUND,I,NRC N92/78; STATIONARY + ROUND OBJ. +207,9921213,545,ON,,NL,3,7,.1,1,RED,,P,NRC N92/79 +208,9921213,755,ON,,NL,5,5,20,1,BLACK,ROUND,I,NRC N92/80; ROUND OBJ. WITH + SMOKE TRAIL +209,9921225,1920,ON,,ND,7,7,2,3,WHITE,CIGAR,U,NRC N92/81; UNKNOWN OBJ. SEEN + FROM AIRCRAFT +210,9921225,1930,PQ,SALLUIT,NL,5,5,1,1,,,I,NRC N92/82 +212,9920331,2230,MB,PINE RIVER,C2,7,7,.05,3,WHITE,,U,'DUST KICKED UP'; + FLASH SEEN +213,9920300,2300,MB,WINNIPEG,NL,6,7,.1,2,WHITE,,P,6 LIGHTS IN ECHELON + FORMATION +214,9920509,1800,MB,WINNIPEG,DD,6,7,.05,1,SILVER,CIGAR,P,'LIKE PLANE GOING + DOWN' +215,9920600,2000,MB,WINNIPEG,NL,6,6,.15,1,WHITE,,P,6 LIGHTS IN DIAMOND + FORMATION +216,9920717,2300,MB,TYNDALL,NL,6,7,.05,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,P,FOUR BLUE + LIGHTS FOLLOWING A WHITE ONE +217,9920720,2358,MB,WINNIPEG,ND,7,8,.11,2,RED,DISC,U,PILOT SAW FORMATION OF + 6 DISCS +218,9920721,2000,MB,WINNIPEG,ND,7,6,15,3,WHITE,OVAL,U,'ALUMINUM' OBJ. MOVED + SLOWLY IN ARC +219,9920721,2330,MB,WINNIPEG,ND,7,8,.2,2,WHITE,TRIANGLE,U,PILOT SAW 4 + 'DELTAS' IN V-FORMATION +220,9920722,2000,MB,WINNIPEG,DD,7,6,8,1,WHITE,DISC,U,'LIKE PIECE OF THE + MOON' +221,9920800,2000,MB,WINNIPEG,NL,6,3,1,1,RED,,I,LUMINOUS OBJECT +222,9920819,2255,MB,WINNIPEG,ND,5,7,1,1,WHITE,,P,VIDEO OF SLOW-MOVING LIGHT + NR. AIRPORT +223,9920912,2300,MB,WINNIPEG,NL,6,7,.1,1,WHITE,POINT SOURCE,U,13 DISCS IN + FORMATION SEEN BY PILOT +224,9921017,1800,MB,ASHERN,DD,8,7,1,1,BLACK,TRIANGLE,U,'MANTA RAY' FLYING + SLOWLY NEAR HOUSE +225,9921101,200,MB,WINNIPEG,C4,9,8,30,1,,,U,ABDUCTION REPORTED BY NURSE +226,9921103,1700,MB,WINNIPEG,NL,3,5,.2,1,ORANGE,POINT SOURCE,P,'FLARE + MOVING DOWN' + +== end of file == + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3014.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3014.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0d03d8e5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3014.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ + +SUBJECT: LONG DISTANCE CALL FROM EARTH FILE: UFO3014 + + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +Someone Out There Is Waiting for a Long-Distance Call From Earth +04/03/86 +THE LOS ANGELES TIMES + +They're here. +Now you can dial 976-UFOS and get late-breaking news of human +contact with extraterrestrials, inside stories of UFO sightings and +scientific verification of alien visits to planet Earth. +Plus, as an added bonus this week, hear transcripts of the +conversations between Eduard Billy Meier, a one-armed Swiss farmer, +and Semjase, a female celestial cosmonaut who has visited Meier in +her Pleiadian beam ship a reported 130 times. +"People are always making jokes about little green men, but we +can't be the only life in the universe," said Rusty Weaver as he +leaned forward in his seat. "There is an infinite number of planets +and stars out there." +Paul Shepherd nodded emphatically. +"There are so many people who say they have seen spacecraft and +there's so much evidence of extraterrestrials that suddenly you +realize, `My God, this planet is being visited,' " Shepherd said. +"I was amazed that none of this information was available to the +public." +Messages $2 a Call +Indeed, there are few outlets through which one can obtain +verbatim Pleiadian communications. That's why Weaver, 27, a +Woodland Hills musician, and Shepherd, 31, a Los Angeles +businessman, formed a partnership to open the UFO Contact Newsline. +Each day, the $2 toll call offers a different three-minute +recording narrated by radio announcer Bill Jenkins and Rusty's +father, actor Dennis Weaver. +The 976, or dial-a-message, industry has boomed since Pacific +Bell first made the service available in November, 1983. The 976 +lines are rented to independent companies that choose the messages +they offer. There are 976 lines for everything from horoscopes and +stock market figures to movie reviews and adult entertainment. +Weaver and Shepherd claim that they have the state's first and only +UFO line. +"This line offers people the opportunity to be exposed to this," +Shepherd said. "I really believe we are offering a public service." +The recordings are produced by Weaver in his father's Woodland +Hills recording studio. They are presented in a straightforward, +news-broadcast manner, with Jenkins quoting from UFO studies and +eyewitness accounts. The first segment of each daily recording +deals with news reports, the second with scientific data. +From Vitamins to Aliens +Then comes a feature titled "In Contact." This week, the subject +is Semjase's messages to Meier. A woman's voice, sounding strangely +electronic and echoed, speaks calmly over the line in one segment: +"Several times we have tried to establish contact with +terrestrial humans, who might want to assist us in our task, but +they have not been sufficiently willing or loyal. But you have +taken the trouble to learn truth. Because of your earnest search, +you stand out among the many and thus we have decided to select +you. After we have selected an individual, we carefully monitor his +thoughts and directly observe his reactions. This is done for the +safety of all concerned. Then, when he has been accepted, we +telepathically influence him to journey to remote locations for +direct contact." +Bill Jenkins' voice returns. +"Tomorrow, our quote from Semjase involves telepathic contact. +Until then ...." +Dennis Weaver's voice, which introduces each recording, tells +listeners that transcripts and further documentation are available +by calling the UFO Contact Newsroom. +UFOs have been Shepherd's fascination since 1980. He says that +he has devoted years to culling information from books, governments +reports and interviews with UFO researchers and eyewitnesses from +around the world. +Shepherd even flew to Europe to visit Meier and question him for +details of his meetings with Semjase, who allegedly traveled to +Switzerland from her native planet Erra of the Pleiades star +cluster in the Constellation Taurus. +Until recently, Shepherd was otherwise busy selling vitamins. +But he wanted to find a way to tell the public about his UFO +research and, by chance, a friend offered the rights to a +dial-a-message line. Weaver and Shepherd became partners, and the +UFO Newsline was born. +Weaver said that friends and family were skeptical at first. +"Some of them would give me a weird look, but once I talked to +them about it, they were receptive," he said. "If people don't want +to see it as fact, it's still fun to call." +Dennis Weaver, who soon became involved in his son's endeavor, +also expects some questioning looks from people who are used to +thinking of him as a down-to-earth cowboy sheriff. +"Edison was viewed as a crackpot," Weaver said. "Anything that +is away from the norm will be viewed by some people in that way. +Besides, this is a subject that has always piqued my interest." +So far, after a week and a half in operation, UFO Newsline has +received about 300 calls a day. It is a slow start, but Shepherd +said he is confident there will be more calls. +After all, starting the week of April 13, UFO Newsline will be +broadcasting the actual voice of an extraterrestrial picked up and +recorded by a modified radio as the alien flew over South Africa, +about 325 miles above Earth. +"What we present is evidence," Shepherd said. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3015.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3015.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..25a68f9d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3015.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ + +SUBJECT: SIGHTING REPORT A22C1 FILE: UFO3015 + + + + + +Please note this sighting report used the MUFON Sighting Report which I +feel is quite inadequate. We have recently created a new sighting report +which allows for more data, more specifics, in approximately 75% the +space. + + + +Date of Sighting: 10-22-92 +SIghting time: 7:50 p.m. +Duration: 5 minutes +Place of sighting: Elk Grove, CA +Brief description: triangular +Brief description of location: near a farmer's field just above the + trees by telephone wires +Where & what were you doing: driving home with my son after buying pizza +What made you first notice: bright light above trees not moving +What did you think the object first was: helicopter +Describe reaction/action during/after sighting: interested during, + excited after +Describe the object and its actions: triangle shaped, moving slow in + horizontal and verticle directions [note: a detailed picture was + included witht he sighting report] +How did you loose sight of the object: running from my garage to my + backyard. + +Environmental Situation +Viewed from: car, via moon roof of car +Sky condition: clear +Precipitation: none + +Geographical location +Viewed within: residential +Area/Terrain: fields +Area/Technical: powerlines + +direction of UFO: northeast +initial elevation: 40 ft. or 10 ft. above telephone lines +final elevation: s/a +distance closest to you: s/a +distance closest to ground: s/a + +no other airplanes, helicopters, etc....before, during, or immediately +afetr sighting + +an object and lights observed- triangular with bright white lights that +dim, object appeared solid + +no sound, no smell + +speed--5 - 10 mph...followed me + +size- approximate small house + +any other witnesses: my son, fellow work collegues + +today's date 10/30/92 + +vision: 20/10 20/15 +hearing: good +health after sighting: bronchitis +--- + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3016.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3016.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a6fd3a2a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3016.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,59 @@ + +SUBJECT: DON'T ABANDON THE SEARCH FOR LIFE FILE: UFO3016 + + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +Don't abandon the search for life +10/07/93 +SAN FRANCISCO EXAMINER + +IN THE 17th century, the astronomer Galileo Galilei used a +telescope to see new worlds - mountains on the Moon, the +crescent shape of Venus, moons orbiting Jupiter. Some of +his critics refused to look through his telescope. +Now the U.S. Congress is displaying the same anti-science +peevishness. Last Friday, a conference committee voted +to kill funding for a NASA project that uses radio +telescopes to search the universe for inhabitants of +other worlds. +While grocery-store tabloids scream about flying +saucers, NASA is looking for the real thing. The discovery +of aliens would be one of the most - perhaps the most - +incredible discoveries in history. The failure to detect +extraterrestrials is also important: It would be +evidence that intelligent life is much rarer and, hence, a +much more remarkable phenomenon than some biological +theories imply. +A year ago, NASA scientists at Mountain View launched +their search for aliens, a program called the High +Resolution Microwave Survey, also known as Search for +Extraterrestrial Intelligence or SETI. Its cost for the +next year is $12 million - a fraction of the cost of a +single $2 billion Seawolf submarine, whose post-Cold War +usefulness is limited to being a jobs program for +Connecticut shipyards. +Ironically, the extraterrestrial search's economical +size, a staff of 100 or so scientists around the country, +may have been its undoing. Whereas the space shuttle and +space station mean big bucks and job payrolls for +politically powerful states such as Texas, Alabama and +Florida, the extraterrestrial search was too small to +fight back. Congress apparently bought the demagogic +objections of U.S. Sen. Richard Bryan, D-Nev., who +cruelly misrepresented the project as a "great Martian +chase." +Now, the best chance to save the project is President +Clinton. +The extraterrestrial search makes use of America's best +technology and our best minds. It excites the +imagination, but it has a purpose and a thrifty price tag. +Don't abandon the universe, Mr. President. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3017.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3017.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1b56a264 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3017.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,139 @@ + +SUBJECT: IS THERE AN ALIEN BASE UNDER PUERTO RICO ? FILE: UFO3017 + + + + +ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ MUFONET COMMUNICATIONS GROUP ³ +³ ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ ³ +³ ASTRONET BBS NETWORK - MUFONET BBS NETWORK ³ +³ ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ ³ +³ ³ +³ [Note: This article is provided by MUFON'S BAYWATCH ³ +³ Newsletter --Vol 1. No. 4 May 93] ³ +ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵ +³The Official Newsletter of Hillsborough / Pinellas / Manatee³ +³Counties MUFON. Eugene Brown: MUFON State Section Director.³ +³Editor: Jan Rodemerk; Asst. Editor: Terry Rodemerk. MUFON'S³ +³BAYWATCH, 1447 53rd Avenue North, St. Petersburg, Florida ³ +³33702. BAYWATCH is provided to the MUFON membership ³ +³residing in the above Florida counties. MUFON HOTLINE for ³ +³reporting UFO sightings in the above counties: 813-595-7964 ³ +ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ´ +³ Permission granted to cross-post to FIDO UFO only ³ +ÆÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵ +³ ³ +³ IS THERE AN ALIEN BASE UNDER PUERTO RICO? ³ +³ ³ +³by Terrell W. Ecker and Anne Ecker ³ +³ ³ +³From Taino Indian Legends of witches flying out of the ³ +³mountains to modern reports of disc-shaped objects slipping ³ +³in and out of the Caribbean, Puerto Rico has a rich history ³ +³of ongoing paranormal activity. Recently the pace and ³ +³diversity of this activity has increased until it seems that³ +³remarkable events have become almost commonplace. ³ +³ ³ +³The "UFOlogist" went to Puerto Rico, and with the generous ³ +³help of noted UFO investigator and "Enigma!" magazine editor³ +³Jorge Martin, met and interviewed witnesses to some of the ³ +³recent unusual events on the island. ³ +³ ³ +³According to Martin, the recent upsurge in sightings began ³ +³with an underground explosion near Lajas in the southwest [ ³ +³part of the island ]. ³ +³ ³ +³Near Lajas is Laguna Cartagena, a small body of water of ³ +³uncertain depth, polluted from agriculture runoff and ³ +³illegal sewage drainage. The lagoon is unusual in several ³ +³aspects, not the least of which is its shape: from the air, ³ +³the grassy border of the lagoon looks uncannily like a map ³ +³of the United States. The lagoon is also known for its large³ +³and unusual waterfowl population, some species of which are ³ +³unique to the lagoon. ³ +³ ³ +³For years, people living near the lagoon have witnessed ³ +³balls of light coming and going from the water. Then, in ³ +³late May 1987, the phenomenon began to change. ³ +³ ³ +³At 10:30 p.m. on May 30, a large red buzzing ball of light ³ +³was seen descending into the lagoon. At 2:00 a.m. May 31, ³ +³people in the area were awakened by a blinding white light. ³ +³ ³ +³Those brave enough to go to their windows saw a huge disc ³ +³shaped object with brilliant lights circle slowly over the ³ +³water, as if looking for something. ³ +³ ³ +³The following afternoon at 1:55 a huge underground ³ +³explosion followed by a tremor shook the area. Cracks opened³ +³in the ground and cobalt blue smoke issued from them. ³ +³ ³ +³The first reports from seismic stations placed the ³ +³epicenter of the earthquake directly under Laguna Cartagena ³ +³at a depth of 8100 feet. Later, news reports stated that ³ +³the epicenter had been in the ocean between the southwest ³ +³coast and Mona Island, in contradiction to what the official³ +³seismic report had said. ³ +³ ³ +³As if an earthquake followed by blue smoke wasn't jarring ³ +³enough, residents whose houses bordered the lagoon were ³ +³forcibly evacuated by members of the U.S. military in grey ³ +³HUMVEEs and tan four-wheel drive vehicles sporting radarlike³ +³rotating antennae on their tops. ³ +³ ³ +³As they were being herded away from their homes, residents ³ +³saw men in what appeared to be decontamination suits ³ +³sweeping the ground with long-handled devices reminiscent of³ +³metal detectors and taking samples of water, plants, mud ³ +³and grass. ³ +³ ³ +³The next day many reported seeing a helicopter with a long ³ +³chain descending from it. On the chain was a large ball ³ +³which appeared to be some sort of instrument package. This ³ +³was slowly lowered into the lagoon. ³ +³ ³ +³At 10:30 the following evening -- and for three consecutive ³ +³evenings thereafter at exactly the same time -- witnesses in³ +³the area saw a strange flying dumbbell come in from over the³ +³sea and hover over the lagoon. It was described as a ³ +³metallic cylinder with large balls of greenish-white light ³ +³on the ends and a beaconlike red and blue light on its ³ +³underside. ³ +³ ³ +³In the days following the explosion, reports of UFO ³ +³activity in the area increased dramatically, but possibly ³ +³the most interesting thing reported to be flying over the ³ +³lagoon during that time was an airplane the size of a ³ +³commercial passenger jet which made a low pass over the ³ +³lagoon as if giving a tour to its putative passengers. ³ +³ ³ +³Thus began the most recent -- and active -- era of UFO ³ +³events in Puerto Rico. Subsequent days were filled with ³ +³reports of multiple sightings of UFOs, bigfoot-like ³ +³creatures, landings, entity encounters, abductions, grass ³ +³circles, animal mutilations and Marian apparitions. ³ +³ ³ +³With the entire range of UFO activity represented and ³ +³flourishing on the island, Puerto Rico seems to be a ³ +³microcosm of the worldwide UFO phenomenon. Why? The island ³ +³is characterized by diversity geologically, ³ +³climatologically, demographically. It has long been a land ³ +³of social experiments, from its status as the first United ³ +³States Commonwealth to the "Operation Bootstrap" of poet/ ³ +³president Luis Munoz Marin. ³ +³ ³ +³Perhaps it's the scene of another experiment, controlled ³ +³contact with an alien culture. Or perhaps it's the scene of ³ +³intentional illusion to that effect. Whatever is going on ³ +³in Puerto Rico involving UFOs and the US government -- and ³ +³make no mistake, something _is_ going on there -- it bears ³ +³scrutiny. ³ +³ ³ +³=END= ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3018.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3018.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ff57437b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3018.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,271 @@ + +SUBJECT: ABDUCTED BY ALIENS ? FILE: UFO3018 + + + + + +USA Weekend, June 25-27, 1993 +[Editorial correspondence: 1000 Wilson Blvd., Arlington, VA 2229- +0012] + +Front cover: ABDUCTED BY ALIENS? Thousands of Americans--including +Sky Ambrose--say it has happened to them. What's up? + +by Frank Kuznik + +(c) 1993 USA Weekend, a division of Gannett Co., Inc. + + +Tens of thousands of seemingly ordinary people have a very strange +tale to tell involving spaceships and odd-looking creatures. Are they +getting carried away? + +Skye Ambrose--yes, that was her name before all this started--says it +happened 3 1/2 years ago on a remote, moonlit stretch of Colorado +highway. Enticed by circular flashing lights in the sky, she and a +friend pulled off Interstate 70, cut the headlights, and then watched +in disbelief as ethereal black waves began to envelop the car. + +"Oh my God. What are those?" Skye said to her friend, who had noticed +something else. + +"Look! A falling star." The words were barely out of her mouth before +the star turned into a glowing ball of white light. It stopped above +a field, hovering no more than 100 feet from the car. As the women +watched in speechless amazement, two beams of light, brilliant with +pinks, purples and blues, dropped from the ball to form a shimmering +"V". + +"You know those people who say they've been kidnapped by a UFO?" +Ambrose said weakly to her friend. "Well, that's not going to happen +to us. We're not getting out of this car!" + +Suddenly the lights vanished. All at once, the women felt exhausted +and irritable, their nerves frayed. A short drive brought them to +Goodland, Kansas, where they found a motel and, inside, unpleasant +surprises in the bathroom mirror. + +Ambrose's friend stared in shock at the deep flush tainting her +normally pale complexion. And Ambrose was equally affected-- +colorless and drawn, with her ordinarily curly hair plastered flat +against her head. + +But the worst shock came in the morning, when Ambrose looked at a map +and realized that it had taken three hours to drive the 72-mile leg +of the trip on which they had seen the UFO. Even with the stop for +the encounter, that left nearly two hours unaccounted for. Where had +they gone? + +By any rational measure, the idea is absurd: aliens kidnapping people +to take them aboard flying saucers for bizarre experiments. Space +creatures used to be the stuff of tabloid headlines, and still are: +A recent "Weekly World News" ran the story "Hillary Clinton adopts +alien baby"--with a photo. But these days you can spot aliens, or at +least serious discussions of them, everywhere from the office of a +Harvard psychiatrist to high-rated network miniseries. They are the +subject of talk shows, best-selling books and scholarly debate at +symposiums--and sometimes they're as close as the neighbor down the +street, people like 45-year-old Skye Ambrose. She is to speak July +17-18 at the Seattle UFO Research Conference. Sample topics: +"Multiple Participant Abductions" and "Analysis: NASA UFOs on Videos." + +The few mental-health professionals who take the subject seriously +have found themselves overwhelmed by patients like Ambrose, ordinary +people who claim no initial interest or belief in UFOs but who +suddenly seem beset by symptoms that closely resemble post-traumatic +stress disorder. + +Even skeptics acknowledge that a growing number of people around the +globe are convinced that they have had a close encounter of the fourth +kind (abduction). Indeed, a recent survey by the Roper Organization- +-commissioned by UFO believers--suggests that one in 50 adult +Americans, a total of 3.7 million people has had a series of "unusual +personal experiences" that could point to an abduction. + +"That number's in the ballpark," insists John Mack, a Harvard Medical +School psychiatrist currently treating some 60 professed abductees. +"I was shocked when I saw it. But the more I get into this, the less +I can account for it with any conventional psychiatric explanation." + +Most abductees, say sympathetic psychiatrists like Mack, show no sighs +of mental illness. What typically brings them to a therapist is an +anxiety they're desperate to identify and overcome. Usually with the +aid of hypnosis, they're led back through a missing-time experience +or what they had thought was a dream to discover memories of a +scenario in which they're taken aboard an alien craft and poked and +prodded by inscrutable, bug-eyed creatures. + +That is how Sky Ambrose's tale emerged--under hypnosis by John +Carpenter, a psychiatric social worker in Springfield, Mo. "After my +first hypnotic regression," she says, "I could still say to myself +that I was crazy. But after my friend had her session and came up +with the same story, separate from me, with so many matching details, +I couldn't dismiss it as a hallucination." + +Under hypnosis, Ambrose says, she learned that the beams from the ball +of light contained two beings, perhaps 5 1/2 feet tall, thin, white, +and virtually featureless except for two huge, dark eyes. They +floated the women to an enormous craft in the sky, then took them to +a small, circular room in which Ambrose's friend underwent surgery. +What resembled a small computer chip with tiny hooks or feelers was +implanted deep within her nose. Alarmed at first, Ambrose found +herself being calmed, she says, by two aliens who rubbed and stroked +her head, and a third with glittering eyes that held her entranced. +Both women then were taken before the tallest of beings, who +telepathically assured them that the aliens meant no harm. + +"He communicated that they're the guardians of Earth and have been for +millions of years," says Ambrose. "They're working with people who +have chosen to do this work with them." Then, the women say, they +were returned to their car, with no memory of their abduction. The +friend says she later suffered nosebleeds as a result of the implant +but has never had a medical examination to detect it. + +Other than an alien invasion, what might account for the abduction +phenomenon? Skeptics note that these stories are contemporary +variations on age-old themes and scenarios. "Abduction delusions +[abound] in folklore," says Robert Baker, a University of Kentucky +professor emeritus. "Since the Middle Ages, people have been abducted +by dragons, ogres, leprechauns, fairies, and so on. They're not +crazy; they're victims of what are commonly known as 'waking dreams,' +delusions you have when you're in a hypnopompic [waking up] or +hypnogogic [falling asleep] state." + +Most abduction stories begin in bed, with the victim being awakened +by beings who magically slip into the bedroom, transport their +paralyzed victim through solid walls and seldom leave any signs of +their visit. This bears a striking resemblance to the phenomenon of +sleep paralysis, a well-documented but poorly understood state in +which one is awake but still paralyzed by the neurological mechanism +that inhibits muscle tone during sleep. "Almost 90 percent of the +time, sleep paralysis is accompanied by a certainty that there is +something threatening in the room with you," says David Hufford, the +author of the book "The Terror That Comes in the Night." + +And there are other caveats. Some researchers say that scenarios of +being held against one's will and physically violated suggest masked +memories of childhood abuse. Nor does the fact that two people report +experiences stand as corroboration, according to critics. "It's very +easy for two people to have the same kind of hallucinatory experience +at the same time, then reinforce each other," says the University of +Kentucky's Baker. What's more, "it's been demonstrated that you can +hypnotize people who don't claim to have been abducted, tell them they +have had an abduction experience, and they'll report the same thing +that so-called real abductees report." + +Yet even doubts are fascinated. "I, myself, don't believe" in +abductions by aliens, says Laurence Goldstein, author of "The Flying +Machine and Modern Literature." "But to say something is imaginary +is not to say it's unreal: the imagination is a real faculty that can +penetrate to truth. Flying saucers are ... authentic manifestations +of anxieties. Therefore, we don't want to just dismiss the whole +controversy as ridiculous. We want to ask why these things are going +on." + +The first rash of UFO sightings in this country happened nearly a +century ago, and some observers see a similar case of millennial fever +in today's outbreak of abduction reports, "that sense of some +apocalyptic cycle in history impending and the fear of being taken +over by some powerful alien force." Goldstein says, "Back then, it +culminated in H.G. Wells "War of the Worlds." We have abductions, and +films like "Aliens." + +Goldstein sees the "alien invasion" as a reflection of everything +from an us-vs.-them fear of illegal immigrants (aliens) to the loss +of privacy in the 1990s (the invasion of personal space). But the +biggest theme, he says, is the end of one era--the Cold War-- +coinciding with the start of a millennium. "That sense of some new +cycle about to begin is symbolized by a terror of the alien taking +over. ... Americans are ambivalent about the future, and that shows +up in UFOs." + +Skye Ambrose, for one, insists that her experience is no metaphor. +In contrast to the many abductees who feel trapped and frightened by +their encounters, she embraced and explored hers. The results have +been dramatic, she says. "It's like going through reincarnation, and +within that I'm not quite 4 years old." + +Ambrose left her career in real estate sales and marketing and is not +a massage therapist. She says she has replaced the fear, insecurity +and tension in her life with spiritual growth. She's writing a book +about her abduction experiences, and learning more about the aliens' +grand designs for evolutionary mid-wifery. "I know now that I chose +to go through this. I'm cooperating with a universal purpose." + + + +SIDEBAR: + +ABDUCTED? AUTHOR SAYS NO + +Former New York Times science editor Walter Sullivan outlines signs +of extraterrestrial life in a revised edition of his "We Are Not +Alone: The Continuing Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence" +(Dutton, $23), in stores this week. In a Q&A with USA Weekends's +Richard Vega: + +Q: Do you believe in life on other planets? +A: Of course, of course. + +Q: Have extraterrestrial beings ever visited Earth? +A: There is a possibility, but not in recent times. + +Q: Will we ever have contact with alien creatures? +A: Oh, absolutely. That's the whole justification for the SETI +[Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) program. That's a big +program--something like $10 million a year is being put into that by +the [U.S.] government, the theory being that the distances are so +great that travel may be impractical. But radio, of course, is far +cheaper. + +Q: Have people ever been taken aboard UFOs? +A: I think it's imaginary. People hallucinate and believe this sort +of thing. It may be commercial in some cases; they want a good story +to sell. But with most of them, I don't think that's true. They +sincerely imagined this thing. + +Q: As long as you believe in extraterrestrial life, why not also +believe in the UFO abduction phenomenon? +A: Suppose you were from another civilization, and you could do what +we cannot do, which is travel at the speed of light. Your +civilization is probably 100 light years away. That means it would +take you 100 years to come here. You are not going to suddenly carry +off some girl and give her an experience and bring her back. You are +going to manifest yourself in a more convincing way. + + + +EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTELLIGENCE: A CALL-IN + +As scientists debate life elsewhere in the universe, and UFO stories +make headlines, we want to know what you think (touch-tone telephone +users only): + +1. Do you believe intelligent beings exist elsewhere in the universe? + + YES, press 1 NO, press 2 + +2. Do you believe space aliens have visited Earth, now or in the +past? + + YES, press 1 NO, press 2 + + + CALL 1-900-225-5872 + +A call costs 29 cents, the price of a stamp. One call per household, +please; duplicate calls won't count. Callers under age 18 must have +a parent's or guardian's permission. The lines are open from 6 a.m. +Friday to 12 midnight Tuesday, Eastern time. If you can't call, write +your vote on a postcard and mail it by July 5 to: "Aliens", USA +Weekend, 1000 Wilson Blvd., Arlington, VA 22229. Watch for results +later this summer in USA Weekend. + + +-- end of article -- + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3019.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3019.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..34ed802c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3019.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,476 @@ + +SUBJECT: A STRANGE CONNECTION FILE: UFO3019 + + + + + + + A STRANGE CONNECTION + BY + MICHAEL F. CORBIN + + PARANET OMEGA/THE NOVASTAR GROUP EYE IN THE SKY INFORMATION + SERVICE + + NETWORK ADDRESS: 1:104/422.102---(303)431-1343 + +(C)1988 by The NovaStar Group Information Service. All Rights +Reserved. + + +----------------------------------------------------------------- + + Abduction...to take away a person by force (against the free +will of the person abducted). (The Merriam Webster Dictionary, +paraphrase by Michael Corbin). This word is associated with many +things that one would read about in the newspaper virtually +everyday. The Iranian hostages, young girl abducted by two men +and held for ransom. But, the word 'abduction' has even more +serious implication of late. Whitley Streiber's abduction, Budd +Hopkins' abduction studies. What does this mean? Over the last +few years, there has been an ever increasing rate of alien +abductions of human beings. As a matter of fact, the numbers +have grown enormously over the last year! As the record +indicates, seemingly normal human beings are being removed from +their homes and vehicles, sometimes in broad daylight, to be +examined by alien beings. Reports have indicated that these +examinations include the taking of ova and sperm samples from the +victims and the possible insemination of female abductees who +report subsequent pregnancy only to find that the pregnancy has +mysteriously disappeared shortly after the first trimester. +These disappearances of fetus' are, likewise, associated with +another abduction of the victim. Mysterious scarring and +implants around the frontal brain area have also been +commonplace. At first, one would naturally speculate that the +people reporting such abductions were obviously hallucinating +such events, however as time has passed, more and more people +have been coming forward reporting the most bizarre abduction +reports of our history. People, whom doctors report are average +intelligence and normally adjusted socially. What is going on? +I have been asking this question of myself and others over the +last year, and have been drawn to this mystery only to find that +it goes much deeper than most people would realize or +acknowledge. Speculation has ranged from nothing more than an +over active imagination, on the down side, to stories of the last +days and 'fallen angels', on the high side. It is here that I +would like to analyze what we know to be true in the area of +UFO's and abductions. + + Recently discovered by Barry Greenwood and Lawrence Fawcett, +authors of the well known book, Clear Intent, have discovered +that the United States Government has over 10,000 documented +reports of UFO sightings made by the general public, airline +pilots, both civil and military, radar observed UFO's and on and +on since as early as 1942. During the period of 1942 to 1947, +the reports were sparse and generally were not treated too +seriously. Then, in 1947, things took a sudden and mysterious +turn when the news wire buzzed that a saucer had crashed in a +remote region of New Mexico near the town of Roswell. As quickly +as the story went out over the wire, it was immediately silenced +by the U.S. Government and later explained away as a radar +reflecting device attached to a weather balloon. However, +despite the government attempts to disguise the possible recovery +of an unknown type aircraft, using the weather balloon story, the +rumors persist that what actually was recovered in that field was +an actual spacecraft piloted by aliens. Even unto 1988, the +mystery as far as the public is concerned remains unsolved and +steeped in more secrecy than ever before. Greenwood and Fawcett +launched a massive and bold campaign to have the government +release to the public, any and all documents related to this +bizarre phenomenon, only to be met with resistance of a large +degree by the military entities that on one hand, deny the very +existence of such phenomenon and on the other, outright admit +their existence by withholding documents pertaining to them. +Many documents are classified 'Above Top Secret'. So, with this +in mind, are we to believe that nothing exists? Are we to +believe the Philip Klass' that would have us understand that we +are involved in a phenomenon known as mass hallucination or +mistaking something moving across the sky as the planet Venus? +Not hardly. But, what is it? + + Anyone could let their imagination run away with them +speculating on what this phenomenon is and from where it comes. +We have seen this lately in the form of frantic appeals that we +are being invaded by little green men from outer space. We have +heard stories about MIB's (Men In Black) stalking abduction +victims, dark helicopters buzzing homes and observing the +movements of individuals who are deeply involved in this mystery. +We have heard that there are underground bases where the aliens +perform horrible experiments on hapless human victims. And, on +top of all of this, we have heard of MJ-12, the secret, covert +organization, responsible only to the President of the United +States. MJ-12 is supposed to have the complete and total access +to actual living aliens who are visitors of the government. The +stories go on and on. What is true and what is false? Since no +civilian researcher has ever been invited to a full blown crash +investigation, the civilian ranks must work at this project in +the blind. Many times, there have been reports of actual +physical evidence of an encounter, but to this day, not one piece +of evidence has been circulated among the civilian ranks. So, +once again, in the absence of physical evidence to examine, we +are left with our minds to speculate on what could be going on. + + While it is not the scope and purpose of this document to +discuss theology, it is important to keep in mind that there +could be a possible link between the phenomenon of today and what +has been recounted in ancient documents. In 1968, Barry H. +Downing published a book called 'The Bible and Flying Saucers'. +In this book, Mr. Downing attempts to relate the Bible to this +phenomenon. What makes this theory so difficult in this day and +age is the fact that mysticism has been replaced with science. +As science has made such leaps and bounds in discovering our +roots, it seems that the Bible and God has been traded off for +science text 101. But, even with all of science's knowledge, the +basic meaning of life has still not been discovered. We have +always needed a balance of Science, Philosophy, and Theology to +get us where we were going. For nearly 6000 years men have tried +to discover their meaning and roots of being. Yet, in today's +modern world, we feel that we are so close to the answer. +Accident. I have heard our existence justified as being part of +the 'Cosmic Cookbook' where you add a little of this and a little +of that and poof!, out comes instant life. But who or what has +been doing the 'adding' of the ingredients to this large cosmic +pot? While I am not a scientist, I can say that so far, nothing +to my knowledge has been discovered that will validate the +principle of perpetual motion. In any event, if motion is to +exist, something external must be applied to that object to put +it into motion. Once motion is achieved, then periods of +external intervention are necessary to keep that object in +motion, lest it would eventually cease to move. Let's take a +large metallic ball and suspend it from a string. That ball will +just hang there until we apply the force to it to get it to move. +Once moving, we will have to continue applying an external force +to that ball to keep it moving. If we don't then that ball will +cease to move. Now all of us are not scientists, but we do know +that the ball exists since we can see it. We know that by +hitting that ball, it will move. We also know that if we do not +keep hitting that ball, it will stop moving in a short time. +Science has taken this everyday phenomenon and studied it. They +have come to the same conclusion scientifically that we have. +Now science can acknowledge this because it has been observed, +but science cannot necessarily determine why this is so. If they +had, then we would know all there is to know about perpetual +motion, but we don't. This same discussion could apply to our +existence. We know that everything around us is in motion. This +would lead us to believe, that some external force had to be +applied to get things moving. What was that external force? +Until these answers are beyond reproach, no one can say that this +is wrong and that is right. Even science cannot definitively +state that we are the products of an accident. The universe is +in motion, but what force put that process in motion. Arguments +will be that if God is responsible then who created God? But, +until we reach God, then we can only speculate. Nevertheless, +there are several viewpoints in favor of and against what I am +saying here. + + If God created us, what does that tell us about God? It +tells us that God is the Greatest Scientist around. We have been +created in a physical world with physical bodies and senses. We +know that we know we exist. Thus, God must be bound by the same +physical laws that we are, only He has the only real +understanding of these laws. We know from the Bible and other +ancient documents that have been found that throughout man's +history on earth, he has been visited by beings not of this +world, representing God and appearing to have physical bodies +just as we do. These beings, while not revealing the mysterious +meaning of life, have been instrumental in changing world events, +both directly and indirectly. These beings have been referred to +as angels. Recently, I utilized my computer to count the +occurrences of angels in the Bible. Using Today's English +Version, I referenced the word 'angel' and came up with over 400 +occurrences of the word in the entire Bible. Thus, it would seem +that there were angels reported quite a bit in the Bible. Where +does this all fit in with the modern world? Many will say that +the Bible is a collection of mythological tales designed to +symbolize something moral, etc. Yet, the Bible is historically +correct. There have been cataclysms on this earth that were +recounted in the Bible. There are events that are recounted in +the Bible that are historically correct. How could a book of +mythology be correct historically unless these events that we +call myth actually did occur? Aside from the Bible, there are +ancient documents that recount flying shields and strange +visitors interacting with earth people. What about our modern +world? Are we to say that the hundreds, even thousands of people +that claim they have been abducted are the result of mythological +beings? If this be true, then we are all victims of this biggest +hoax to befall us in the 20th century. + +Below follows an excerpt taken from the Pseudepigrapha's First +Book of Enoch. As some may recall, Enoch was the seventh +descendant of Adam and as Genesis 5:24 recounts, '...Enoch walked +with God. Then he vanished because God took him...'. Most +scholars agree that this work was written in both Hebrew and +Aramaic, Aramaic being the language that Jesus spoke. As you +read this, recall the modern abductions that have been taking +place. + + The Fall Of Angels + + 6 In those days, when the children of man had + multiplied, it happened that there were born + unto them handsome and beautiful daughters. + And the angels, the children of heaven, saw + them and desired them; and they said to one + another, "Come, let us choose wives for + ourselves from among the daughters of man and + beget us children." And Semyaz, being their + leader, said unto them, "I fear that perhaps + you will not consent that this deed should be + done, and I alone will become (responsible) + for this great sin."But they all responded to + him, "Let us all swear an oath and bind + everyone among us by a curse not to abandon + this suggestion but to do the deed." Then they + all swore together and bound one another by + (the curse). And they were altogether two + hundred; and they descended into 'Ardos, which + is the summit of Hermon. And they called the + mount Armon, for they swore and bound one + another by a curse. And their names are as + follows: Semyaz, the leader of Arakeb, + Rame'el, Tam'el, Ram'el, Dan'el, Ezeqel, + Baraqyal, As'el, Armaros, Batar'el, Anan'el, + Zaqe'el, Sasomasp w e'el, Kestar'el, Tur'el, + Yamayol, and Arazyal. These are their chiefs + of tens and of all the others with them. + + 7 and they took wives unto themselves, and + everyone (respectively) chose one woman for + himself, and they began to go unto them. And + they taught them magical medicine, + incantations, the cutting of roots, and taught + them (about) plants. And the woman became + pregnant and gave birth to great giants whose + heights were three hundred cubits. These + (giants) consumed the produce of all the + people until the people detested feeding them. + So the giants turned against (the people) in + order to eat them. And they began to sin + against birds, wild bests, reptiles, and fish. + And their flesh was devoured the one by the + other, and they drank blood. And then the + earth brought an accusation against the + oppressors. + + 8 And Azaz'el taught the people (the art of) + making swords and knives, and shields, and + breastplates; and he showed to their chosen + ones bracelets, decorations, (shadowing of the + eye0with antimony, ornamentation, the + beautifying of the eyelids, all kinds of + precious stones, and all coloring tinctures + and alchemy. And there were many wicked ones + and they committed adultery and erred, and all + their conduct became corrupt. Amasras taught + incantation and the cutting of roots; and + Armaros the resolving of incantations; and + Baraqyal astrology, and Kokarer'el (the + knowledge of) the signs, and Tam'el taught the + seeing of the stars, and Asder'el taught the + course of the moon as well as the deception of + man. And (the people) cried and their voice + reached unto heaven. + + 9 Then Michael, Surafel, and Gabriel observed + carefully from the sky and the saw much blood + being shed upon the earth,and all the + oppression being wrought upon the earth. and + they said to one another, "the earth, (from) + her empty (foundation), has brought the cry of + their voice unto the gates of heaven. And + now,(o) holy ones of heaven, the souls of + people are putting their case before you + pleading, `Bring our judgment before the Most + High.' " And they said to the lord of the + potentates, "For he is the Lord of lords, and + the God of gods, and the King of kings, and + the seat of his glory (stands) throughout all + the generations of the world. Your name is + holy, bless, and glorious throughout the whole + world. You have made everything and with you + is the authority for everything. Everything is + naked and open before your sight, and you see + everything; and there is nothing which can + hide itself from you. You see what Azaz'el has + done; how he has taught all (forms of) + oppression upon the earth. And they revealed + eternal secrets which are performed in heaven + (and which) man learned. (Moreover) Semyaz, to + whom you have given power to rule over his + companions, co-operating, they went in unto + the daughters of the people on earth, and they + lay together with them-with those women-and + defiled themselves, and revealed to them every + (kind of) sin. As for the women, they gave + birth to giants to the degree that the whole + earth was filled with blood and oppression. + And now behold, the Holy One will cry, and + those who have died will bring their suit up + to the gate of heaven. Their groaning has + ascended (into heaven), but they could not get + out from before the face of the oppression + that is being wrought on earth. And you know + everything (even) before it came to existence, + and you see (this thing) (but) you do not tell + us what is proper for us that we may do + regarding it. + + 10 And then spoke the Most High, the Great + and Holy One! And he sent Asuryal to the son + of Lamech,(saying), "Tell him in my name, + 'Hide yourself!' and reveal to him the end of + what is coming; for the earth and everything + will be destroyed. And the Deluge is about to + come upon all the earth; and all that is in it + will be destroyed. And now instruct him in + order that he may flee, and his seed will be + preserved for all generations." And secondly + the Lord said to Raphael, "Bind Aza"el hand + and foot (and) throw him into the darkness!" + And he made a hole in the desert which was in + Duda'el and cast him there; he threw on top of + him rugged and sharp rocks. bAnd he covered + his face in order that he may not see light, + and in order that he may be sent into the fire + on the great day of judgment. And give life to + the earth which the angels have corrupted. And + he will proclaim life for the earth: that he + is giving life to her. And all the children of + the people will not perish through all the + secrets (of the angels)," which they taught to + their sons. And the whole earth has been + corrupted by Azaz'el's teaching of his (own) + actions; and write upon him all sin. And to + Gabriel the lord said," Proceed against the + bastards and the reprobates and against the + children of adultery; and destroy the children + of adultery and expel the children of the + Watchers from among the people. And send them + against one another (so that) they may be + destroyed in the fight, for length of days + have they not. They will beg you everything- + for their fathers on behalf of themselves- + because they hope to live an eternal life. + (They hope) that each one of them will live a + period of five hundred years." And to Michael + God said,"Make known to Semyaz and the others + who are with him, who fornicated with the + women that they will die together with them in + all their defilement. And when they and all + their children have battled with each other, + and when they have seen the destruction of + their beloved ones, bind them for seventy + generations underneath the rocks of the ground + until the day of their judgment and and of + their consummation,until the eternal judgment + is concluded. in those days they will lead + them into the bottom of the fire-and in + torment-in the prison (where) they will be + locked up forever. And at the time when they + will burn and die, those who collaborated with + them will be bound together with them from + henceforth unto the end of (all) generations. + And destroy all the souls of pleasure and the + children of the Watchers, for they have done + injustice to man. Destroy injustice from the + face of the earth. And every iniquitous deed + will end, and the plant of righteousness and + truth will appear forever and he will plant + joy. And then all the righteous ones will + escape; and become the living ones until they + multiply and become tens of hundreds; and all + the days of their youth and the years of their + retirement they will complete in peace. And in + those days the whole earth will be worked in + righteousness, all of her planted with trees, + and will find blessing. And they shall plant + pleasant trees upon her-vines. And he who + plants a vine upon her will produce wine for + plenitude. and every seed that is sown on her, + one measure will yield a thousand (measures) + and one measure of olives will yield ten + measures of presses of oil. And you cleanse + the earth from all injustice, and from all + defilement, and from all oppression, and from + all sin, and from all iniquity which is being + done on earth; remove them from the earth. And + all the children of the people will become + righteous, and nations shall worship and bless + me; and they will all prostrate themselves to + me. And the earth shall be cleansed from all + pollution, and from all sin, and from all + plague, and from all suffering; and it shall + not happen again that I shall send (these) + upon the earth from generation to generation + and forever. + + 11 "And in those days I shall open the + storerooms of blessing which are in the + heavens, so they I shall send them down upon + the earth, over the work and the toil of the + children of man. And peace and truth shall + become partners together in all the days of + the world, and in all the generations of the + world." + + Quite an incredible story. Budd Hopkins is the leading +researcher on human abductions. He has worked with many people +that claim that they have been abducted by strange creatures and +were made to helplessly watch as these creatures probed and +prodded at their bodies. There have even been reports of +insemination and a victim meeting with a child that she feels was +her child, but was fathered by an alien. As the above story +goes, could there have been genetic engineering as long as 6000 +years ago? Seems quite suspect to me. If so, why? Are these +creatures somehow tied to who we perceive to be God? Are they +the fallen angels associated with Lucifer, the one supreme angel +that rebelled against God and was cast out of heaven by Michael, +the famous Archangel? These beings, if they are capable of +having sexual intercourse with earthlings, must have a physical +body. Could there exist out in the vast expanse of universe, a +whole world devoted to the creatures spoken of in the Bible? +Perhaps, they had been appointed as Watchers over the human race +and violated a sacred oath not to interfere with us, but to +guide us in our maturation process externally and quietly. +Again, one can only speculate about what they want with us. + + There are many whom I am sure will disagree with this +approach, however lest we totally deny our own existence, we must +work with what knowledge we have. The ancient peoples of this +world could not have had in mind to perpetuate a grand hoax such +as the Bible, made it historically true and expected it to last +as long as it has. I say that all things, in all parts of the +world, have a commonalty to them. The commonalty is that they +are all pieces of the big puzzle. Each piece fits intricately +with the next piece and we should not be so quick to discount +something such as this because it is based on religion. You see, +religion and science all have their nature closely intertwined. +For it was out of structured religion that we have made important +discoveries about who we are and what our purpose is. There +really cannot be one without the other. For if it is all true +that we are the product of an external force that we call God, +then science and religion will be forced to reconcile the +separation of the marriage that has been valid all these years +and has kept them apart. + +For now, though, we must continue to work together to figure this +puzzle out. We must remain open minded enough to explore all +possibilities of this phenomenon and be ready to acknowledge that +something is occurring even as this is being written that someday +will expose itself to all nations and people. + +----------------------------------------------------------------- + +Your comments and suggestions are welcomed. + +Phone our information service at (303)431-1343. We are on line +24 hours per day. + +ParaNet Omega/The NovaStar Group + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3020.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3020.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e98f80cd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3020.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,59 @@ +SUBJECT: QUERIES ABOUT OUTERSPACE FILE: UFO3020 + + + + + +Message #1425 - ParaNet UFO Echo + Date: 04-23-92 22:50 + From: Brett Kent + To: All +Subject: Queries About Outerspace + +Tonight I happened to be viewing on the television a special segment on +current affair about UFO abductions. It seems, through their reporting, that +our friendly Uncle Sam, at first did not believe that these people who have +reported it, been abducted by aliens. The fact was, it wasn't till many +reports, spread out through the world came in, did they even began to take +notice. A couple of questions were raised, but never really answered. The +first and foremost was, "Were these people actually taken aboard alien +spacecraft and used as test subjects?". Now, let me play the devils advocate, +and start by saying, that it is quite possible, in spite of the fact, that +when the aliens...all described as being large headed, not very tall, with +long black eyes, little or no nose, and a small slit for a mouth...were first +described, it took like wild-fire to dry bush, and many other reports came +out. Now the other question that this rises, is it fact or fiction. Let's view +this another way. Question: Why have our space travlers...shuttle +astronauts...seen these so called space vehicles or aliens? Why out of all the +people on the earth, were these men and women not abducted? To me it would +seem easier for our extraterrestrial friends to abduct them, deep in +outerspace, than to risk exposure by abducting someone from the planets +surface. Two things can be said in defense. One, that the constant radio +connections between the shuttle and earth are too frequent, and would be too +hard to bypass. Secondly, when our astronauts returned to earth, there +physicals, which are given alway's before and after a mission, would detect +tampering with +their bodies. But to offense that question, let's ask why there are no +physical oddities discovered about the people who were on earth. I will tell +you bluntly, that if I remembered being taken into a strange alien craft, and +had experiments preformed on me, I sure would want to see a doctor that same +night. No if's and's or but's about it. I would claim I was scared frightened +or otherwise, and I by nature am a very shy person! I find it hard to believe +that so many people were abducted, for a couple reasons. Too many constants in +their stories, and two, nothing noticable diffrent about then either. I do +however believe, one or two stories, but not fifty, and not the same tale told +in diffrent words. I am not here posting this to say that I do not belive in +aliens, because I do. What I want is to make people think about it +more...instead of just passing thoughts. Because if one day, we all are to +meet out space friends, then we'll have to have more knowledge than we already +do. We may have advanced technologicaly, but socially, we still live in trees! +I belive this is why we ARE being studied, and why our friends have not made +contact. Just look at the world around you, the violence, ignorance and crime. +To them, we must seem like barbarians! + B.A.Kent +--- + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3021.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3021.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3b3de050 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3021.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,164 @@ +SUBJECT: HYPNOTHERAPISTS WORKING WITH ABDUCTEES/CONTACTEES FILE: UFO3021 + + + + + +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + The following list was taken (without permission but strictly in the + non-commercial interest of promoting expedited theraputic intervention) + from the book titled Encounters: A Psychologist Reveals Evidence of + Contact With Extraterrestrials, Edith Fiore, Ph.D., (c) 1989 Edith + Fiore, Ph.D. - Published by Doubleday - a Division of Bantam Doubleday + Dell Publishing Group, Inc., 666 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10103. + ISBN: 0-385-26236-1 + + Hypnotherapists Working With Abductees/Contactees (pg. 339 - Appendix) + + Aphrodite Clamar, Ph.D. + 30 E. 60th St., + Suite 1107 + New York, NY 10022 + (212) 988-8042 + + Beverly J. Carter + 4491 South Yates + Denver, CO 80236 + (303) 794-7626 + + Ann Druffel + 257 Sycamore Glen + Pasadena, CA 91105 + (213) 256-8655 + + Stephen Field, Pd.D. + 800 Oak Grove, + Suite 207 + Menlo Park, CA 94025 + (415) 325-4678 + + Edith Fiore, Ph.D. + 20688 Fourth St., + Saratoga, CA 95070 + (408) 867-1100 + + Josie Hadley + 2443 Ash St., + Suite D + Pala Alto, CA 94306 + (415) 321-6419 + + Richard Haines, Ph.D. + PO Box 880 + Los Altos, CA 94023-0880 + + Tisha Hallet + 450 San Antonio Rd., + Suite 27 + Palo Alto, CA 94036 + (415) 857-0638 + + James Harder, Ph.D. + 2800 Hilgard St. + Berkeley, CA 94709 + (415) 848-6043 + + Barbara Levy, Ph.D. + 317 Eureka St. + San Francisco, CA 94114 + (415) 826-2250 + (415) 751-3971 + + Linda Marie Martin + 152 Olive Springs Rd. + Soquel, CA 95073 + (408) 479-3493 + + Jeffrey Mishlove, Ph.D. + 48 St. Francis La. + San Rafael, CA 94901 + (415) 456-2532 + + Raymond Moody, M.D. + 205 Tanner St. + Carrolton, GA 30117 + (404) 834-6393 + + Sharon Moss, Ph.D. + 2947 Eastmoreland + Oregon, OH 43616 + (419) 691-4926 + + Jean Mundy, Ph.D + 33 Windward + East Hampton, NY 11937 + (516) 267-8896 + and + 105 West 13th St. + New York, NY 10011 + (212) 741-1278 + + June Parnell, Ph.D. + 2219 Rainbow Ave., + Laramie, WY 82070 + (307) 742-3394 + + Alice Rose, Ph.D. + 4651 Roswell Rd., + Suite I-8013 + Atlanta, GA 30342 + (404) 255-7051 + + Patricia Shaw, Ph.D. + 225 S. Meramec Ave., + Suite 506 + St. Louis, MO 63105 + (314) 863-3588 + + Richard Sigismund + 1557 9th St., + Boulder, CO 80302 + (303) 447-9170 + + June Steiner + 987 University Ave., + Suite 6 + Los Gatos, CA 95030 + (408) 395-9209 + + Jo Stone, MFCC + PO Box 2828 + Los Angeles, CA 90078 + + Sue Street, Ph.D. + University of South Florida + St. Petersburg Campus + 140 7th. Ave. South + St. Petersburg, FL 33701 + (813) 893-9129 + + Keith Thompson + PO Box 5055 + Mill Valley, CA 94942 + (415) 388-9008 + + Mary Ellen Trahan, Ph.D. + 205 Tanner St. + Carrolloton, GA 30117 + (404) 834-6393 + + Norma Triggs + 10 Willow Creek + Richardson, TX 75080 + + Thomas J. Zinser, Ed.D. + 2041 Raybrook SE + Grand Rapids, MI 49506 + (616) 957-3168 + + ============= End of List ======================= + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3035.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3035.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0cba6711 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3035.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +SUBJECT: AM I IMAGINING IT ALL ? FILE: UFO3035 + + + + + Am I Imagining It All? + + "...there will be wonder. There will be great wonder." These words, written by Whitley Strieber in the foreword of his book Transformation, have for me, become the most profound words that I have ever come across. They are at once extremely descriptive of the entire UFO enigma and yet, they are very richly understated. To wonder is to contemplate something that at the very least has some basis for understanding in the human mind. But, it is becoming increasingly clear, as more and more information is obtained from UFO sightings and proported abduction victims that much of the phenomenon is probably beyond Man's comprehension. Therefore, to wonder is to digress from fact into fantasy. But, one cannot help but wonder. So how are we to get to the true meaning of the enigma? There seems, at this point, to be no clear path to truth ahead of those who study this peculiar subject. About all anyone can do is to add as much information as possible to the files of dedicated research organizations attempting to put all of the bizarre tales into some some kind of rational perspective. These files are already so loaded with obscure symbolism and strange occurrences, that their real underlying meanings may never be obtained. + In writing this, I presuppose that UFOs exist, that they are indeed a physical reality and not halluclnatory in nature, that they are piloted by extraterrestrial entities, and that these entities have engaged in the abduction and examination of many human individuals. The question of existence has never been an issue for me. I have always accepted as fact that UFOs were a reality. As far back as I can remember, I have held a major interest in the phenomenon. Recently, I ran across newspaper clippings dated as far back as 1978 that I had collected pertaining to various sightings of strange craft, which demonstrates that even at age 14, I was keenly aware that something strange was happening. + In those days though, as far as I was concerned, UFOs were strange flying craft that people saw in the sky, although I do not remember ever having personally seen an object that I could truly consider to be extraterrestrial. Abduction accounts were virtually unheard of, or at least they were not reported by any media available to me other than in the grocery store tabloids that everyone denies reading. In fact, I do not recall reading one in-depth "alien encounter" report until I was in my early twenties. I had heard the names Travis Walton and Betty Andreasson a few times, but I had no access to details of these cases. It was not until late 1989, at age 25, that I began to suspect my own possible abduction. This "wondering" began on a trip to a bookstore where I was scanning a totally unrelated section of books for something interesting to read. Suddenly, I came to an out of place book entitled Intruders. The name was all I saw on the spine, but l immediately knew what this book was about. Without checking to see if I was correct in my assumption I grabbed the book and bought it. It was all I could do to wait until 1 got home to start reading it. While I was engrossed in the manuscript I recalled a dream that I had as a child. It was a horrifing dream that has recurred several times throughout my life. What I remember of it seems to fit perfectly into the classic abduction scenario. + am Iying in bed asleep. For reasons unclear I wake up and peer through the doorway of my room. I think I see some small men looking back at me from around another doorway very close to my own. I get up to investigate and walk toward them down the hall. I do not get very far when I seem to remember several others coming toward me. At this point I become very frightened and turn to run back to my bedroom. I take about one step and am frozen in my tracks. I could not move a muscle. This was not the "run in slow motion but can't get away" dream. I was totally immobilized and felt a very strange tingling sensation, which I will never forget. I can equate it a low level electrical vibration, like when you touch the ends of a cord as you plug it into the wall socket, only not as strong. I remember screaming for my mother and father to help me. Whether anything came out of my mouth or no one heard me, I don't know. At this point my back was turned to whatever was pursuing me. Then, my legs began to float up and I tilted face down and began to float. I do not recall anything after this point. + I can remember, as a child, being absolutely terrified to go down the hall to my room by myself, especially at night. I would even go so far as to try to con my brother to go with me, telling him that I wanted to show him something or that I wanted to play with him. I also had a fear of looking out of the sliding glass doors that led out to the backyard at night, for fear that someone would be out there looking back at me. These fears persisted way up into my teens. In fact, I still find myself hugging the walls in my present house, stealthily walking along wondering if someone is in the house when I know good and well that there is'nt. + Another incident that I recalled while reading Intruders pertained to a possible visual sighting that occurred when I was a young boy. My cousins and I were playing outside while my father and uncle talked nearby. Suddenly, for some inexplicable reason, I looked to a spot in the sky and detected a very small stationary object that shown brightly with reflected sunlight. It seems miraculous to me now that I could have spotted the object, knowing how scatter-brained young boys are. I called to the others to see and we watched it for some time, although it made no movement. Upon asking my father and uncle what it was, I remember my uncle getting out his binoculars and taking a look. I am sure that my father also observed the object through the binoculars. Although they could not confirm the identity of the object, they determined that it must be a weather balloon. We accepted this and went about our daily romp sessions without further discussion of the matter. I hadn't given this incident any thought at all until reading Intruders, some twenty years later, at which point the occurrence came rushing back into my mind with utmost clarity. + I also recalled during this time a missing time incident that occurred when I was a senior in high school. At the time, I was having trouble with a spastic colon and was on an anti- spasmodic drug called Bentyl. Although this may hurt my credibility, I ingested a rather large amount of this drug during my second to last class one day. I really don't know why I did this, but I did. I remember going to my last class feeling very groggy and falling asleep. When the bell rang I was almost unable to walk or function normally but managed to get to the door leading outside to my car. This was around 2:30 to 3:00 p.m. The next thing I remember is waking up around 6:00 p.m. at home in my bed to my mother asking me to move my car. This was an incredibly difficult task in my condition. I cannot believe that no one noticed that I was so doped up. The thing I find so difficult to grasp, given that this was a drug induced blackout, is that in this condition, I would have had to get into my car at the school, drive about 3 miles in heavy traffic to my job, perform my duties, drive to another location to finish and then drive home. This is almost too much for me to accept. I seem to remember asking my co-workers the next day about my performance but not getting any satisfactory answers as to whether I did my job or whether I was even there to do it. This event gradually faded from memory and I had not thought about it again until I read Intruders. + The next book I read was Communion. I obtained it from the local library and was dumbfounded that it would even have this book. I concealed it as I walked up to the check- out counter for fear of being seen with it and made fun of. I had heard about the book but had never seen it before. When I picked it off the shelf and saw the cover I was immediately stunned by the artwork and a thought ran through my mind-the image on my door. + On the back of the door to the room in which I had the dream about the little men, there was an image formed by the grain of the wood that I used to call "the devil on my door". I remember showing it to all my friends and even my mother, although she has no recollection of it. It seemed to be an elongated face with slanted eyes and an evil look. The face on Communion seemed to spark some kind of correlation. It was my immediate thought that they were different renderings of the same thing. I remember many times opening my door because I didn't want it to be looking at me. A very strange thing for a child to think about a piece of wood. Communion elicited the same memories from my childhood that Intruders did. + I began to play "connect the dots" and things became clearer that I may have had my own possible abduction experiences. After this, I began reading everything that I could get my hands on about the subject, trying desperately to find some confirmation of the things that I had experienced. I now understand that this is a quite common phase for abductees/contactees to go through. + During this time of "information gathering" I had some very vivid dreams. These dreams that I will relate to you seemed very different from my normal dream state. In fact they seemed very real. The thing that puzzles me is that unlike my normal dreams where I seem to be fully conscious and in control, in these "abduction" dreams I felt as though I was not fully conscious or perhaps groggy from some narcotic. + The first of these came on March 26, 1990. I distinctly remember the date because I awoke the next morning telling myself that I had to remember that day so I could relate it later. It begins this way. When I become aware of something happening, I am standing beside my bed buttoning my red and black flannel shirt. I already had on a pair of jeans. I have no recall of whether I had shoes on. My head was down against my chest as I was doing this. Again, I felt groggy but somewhat aware of my surroundings. Standing next to me on my right side was a small man whom I did not get a good look at. I seem to remember that I could see the top of his head out of the corner of my eye and it was greyish white with no hair. He wore what I perceived to be black clothes. He said to me, "Are you ready?", at which point I replied, "I guess so." He then took me by my left hand and began leading me out of the bedroom, down the hall and into the livingroom. At some point during this promenade, he blurted out, "Hurry!". It seemed to me that he was taking many more steps than I was. He was smaller than I and seemed like he was late for something or that he was taking too long to accomplish his task. We headed for the door that leads out to the backyard. I do not remember going out the door, but the next thing I do remember is that we are outside. We walk across the yard and end up beside this very small jet black oval object that I assume was a craft of some sort. I do not remember a door, as such, but there was an opening that I had to crouch down to get through. I entered first with him following. I sat down in a chair of some sort that was, I assume, at the rear of the craft, immediately on my left. I say this because the little man was doing something in front of me where there seemed to be a lot of equipment and another chair. He was working quite quickly at something, facing to my right as I watched him. At this point, a small door, which I thought looked like a glove-box in a car, fell open. He cursed, "S---t!", which I found quite humorous. I even remember chuckling a bit at this, thinking that he was not much different than I was in his actions. Abruptly, my recollections end. I do not know what took place after this, if indeed this was a realtime event. + The next dream concerning this subject occurred within days of the March 26 scenario. Upon further reflection, I feel that this one may be another remembered segment of the same experience. When I become aware of my surroundings, I am sitting at a low table. It is white and although I cannot move my head around, everything else seemed to be of this same color. Again, I feel as though I am drugged and possibly not fully conscious. My head is glued to my chest as it had been in the earlier dream. I immediatly sensed two presences other than myself. One was on my left at the side of the table which I perceived to be a male. The other was immediatly on my right. I never saw this one but I perceived her as a female as I will explain. I am looking down the whole time, but I was aware that the male on my left was doing something. I said to him, "How many others have you worked with?". He responded, "What do you mean?" I replied, "How many other people have you worked with?" He thought a minute and then said, "Two." At this point, the entity on my right said, in a distinctly female voice, "Oh, and then there was our brother." This elicited from the male some sort of confirming gesture. I am not sure if I saw this or just felt it. + I could not stand not being able to look around and said, "Just a minute". I then tried to lift my head to get a glimpse of my surroundings. It took all the strength I could muster to overcome the force that held my head in its downward position, but 1 managed to look up. When I did, I looked straight into the eyes of the male on my left. I was overwhelmed with delight. It was something concrete that I could take with me. I will never forget the sight. His eyes were very large. They were very human looking in structure and a beautiful light blue in color. They seemed endless and I felt elated. I was so close to him that I seem to remember being able to make out the lines in the iris. This was only a momentary glance but enough to last me a lifetime. At this point, my head was returned to its original position. + Sometime later, I remember looking down at a Petrie dish of translucent green liquid or jelly. A third entity was standing in the background just able to be made out in the corner of my eye. He was not unlike the entity on the cover of Communion, although his head was more angular at the top and perhaps slightly wider. He wore a long, robed garrnent that seemed to shimmer slightly. It had long sleeves covering his arms which he had folded so that his hands were not visible. I got the impression that he was very much in charge. He had a cold stare. I was still very much aware of the green substance in front of me when the third entity uttered, "Wait." I turned slightly, as much as I could, to get a better look. He made a nodding gesture. When I turned my head back to view the green jelly, it was no longer there. Instead, there was a bowl of what I perceived to be, of all things, mashed potatoes. I do not know whether the nodding gesture from this being changed its appearance or whether it was simply replaced as my attention was drawn away from it. This is all I remember of this dream. + There have been many other strange things happen and other less vivid dreams concerning the UFO phenomenon, but it is these dreams described above that I find so fascinating. They are so out of sync with my norrnal dream state. There seems to be no clear beginning, no middle, no end. Just fragmentary segments to tantalize my imagination. I am still unsettled and confused as to whether these events were real and related or whether they are totaly unrelated events that are linked together only by my immersion in this very compelling subject. Or, perhaps, they were not real at all and were generated out of my subconscious mind to fulfill an inner need to be associated with the elite "chosen" few who have actually experienced something real. Did the sequences truly occur? At times the question drives my up the wall. I hope that I can one day find out. + As for the missing-time incident, the possible visual sighting, the image on my bedroom door and the dream I had as a child, I know that these were real events. They did occur. But, as to whether or not they are related to the UFO phenomena, I can not make a concrete decision at this time. + I have recently begun to undergo hypnotherapy, having made a personal decision to determine if the lunatic fringe is just around the corner. If the determination can be made that I have somehow construed these happenings out of my own mind, then the case should be handed to qualified psychologists to try and understand why an ordinary person would relate experiences on a subconscious level that so closely resemble experiences of actual abductees. If indeed, though, the aforementioned experiences and those not mentioned here are truly occurring in event-level reality, then I will probably have to change many of the views I hold of reality. But, however it goes, I will approach the phenomenon as any good investigator, scientist or therapist should; not blindly accepting every detail that comes out of hypnosis as actual truth, but rather integrating those perceptions and observations into an acceptable level of compatability with my life. + In either case, the prospect of an unknown entities, whether earthly or extraterrestrial, coming into the homes of people and abducting them for unknown purposes is truly amazing and at times frightening. It is possibly the most important happening since human creation. I know that I personally cannot sit on the sidelines and wait for something to take place. We all must make every effort to understand as much as possible of the enigma. Perhaps we may find nothing that fits our level of comprehension. But, isn't that the beginning of understanding? To wonder? +copyright 1990 +Michael S. Carter + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3036.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3036.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8ea5a8e2 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3036.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,493 @@ +SUBJECT: AM I AN ABDUCTEE ? FILE: UFO3036 + + + + + + AM I AN ABDUCTEE? + + Three weeks ago I went camping with my best friend, the special type + of friend to whom you can tell anything, no matter how incredible it + may sound. I had planned the weekend carefully; we spent two nights + nestled in the heart of an old-growth redwood forest at an + environmental campsite, far removed from the distractions of our + ordinary lives and of other noisy campers. Within the secluded comfort + of our wilderness setting, I proceeded to tell her exactly what was on + my mind: "I think that I may have been abducted by extraterrestrials!" + After regaining her composure over the initial shock, she listened as I + recounted, in depth, the numerous events which led me to consider such + a preposterous idea. I tried to illuminate my experiences by drawing + parallels to recent books which had been written on the subject, since + my friend was totally ignorant in the matter. The campfire near its + end, my body growing tired after hours of discussion, she left me with + one basic thought when I had finished my tale: "Books by people like + Whitley Streiber and Bud Hopkins sell so well because people empathize + with the main character. They are people who desperately want to + believe that they too have been a part of the experience, and have + touched the unknowable." My friend obviously felt that I was deluding + myself. It is true that I have had a life-long interest in the subject + of UFOs. I have read a vast number of books written on the subject over + the past ten years. The first UFO book I'd ever read was in the eighth + grade, one about George Adamski. Even earlier, in 1969, I was + preoccupied with drawing pictures of "aliens" during the art period in + first grade. Stretching back to the earliest limits of my memory, I can + recall when, in 1964 or '65 at the age of 3, I ran screaming from the + room in terror as I watched an "alien" on an episode of The Munsters. + Of interest is that I had never been the least bit scared of any of the + regular Munster characters, but the sight of an extraterrestrial + absolutely horrified me. My life has been dotted with minor strange + anomalies, all of which I have filed away as "unsolved mysteries", and + forgotten. I usually deal with problems that way. When any conflict + occurs in my life, I tend to ignore it first, hoping that whatever it + is will blow over, so I can forget it. If the first step fails, I + usually try to find a book or two on the subject which might help me. + When a book doesn't provide me with the necessary tools, I usually + discuss that problem with a friend. It would seem like I have such a + problem now, and I am discussing it with you. Something has been eating + away at me for the past six months or so, and I'm not sure exactly what + it is. In one semester, my grade point average has dropped from an + outstanding 3.56 over the past 76.5 semester units in college, to a + rock bottom 0.00 for the 1990 Spring semester; I failed every class! + Also, I have taken to drinking far more often than I should. I have + this fantasy that if I've had a few glasses of wine before I go to bed, + then I'll be useless to the nocturnal visitors, and they will not + bother me. That might seem to be the case, because I have never had an + unusual nocturnal experience after drinking. (Of course I realize that + there are probably people in New York who are convinced that crossing + their fingers will keep wild lions away! In other words, my statement + is an illogical syllogism, in which the premises do not warrant the + conclusion.) Additionally, my sleeping pattern has changed drastically. + Over the past six months or so, I have avoided sleeping each night + until I was utterly exhausted. Currently, I am staying up until abo ut + 5:00 am, and sleeping until 1 pm. Although I desperately need the extra + income from a Summer job, I have avoided getting one because I knew it + would mean going back to a normal sleeping schedule. I put to you the + following dilemma: Has my life-long interest in UFOs finally caused me + to go off the deep end, whereby I have deluded myself into believing + that I may have had numerous abduction experiences? Or, have I truly + been subject to numerous abductions throughout my life, and my way of + dealing with it has been to investigate the phenomena? At this point in + time, I would consider either hypothesis equally, but I desperately + want to know which is the cause, and which is the effect! In the + following paragraphs I will relate my experiences as accurately and as + unbiased as I am able. It is my hope that someone reading this will + provide me with further insights, or that this document will spark + further investigation, so that I can finally know the ultimate truth + behind it all, not only for my own peace-of-mind, but for others who + may be in a similar situation. + + --------------------- + + On April 3, 1990 I decided to call on an old friend who I hadn't heard + from in over two years. My friend, Carolina, is a gifted psychic, and a + well-kept secret. Santa Rosa has its share of palm-readers and fortune + tellers, but Carolina is in an entirely different league. A deeply + spiritual person, Carolina has never sought recognition, publicity, or + a rep utation for her abilities, nor has she ever taken any money from + me for her services. I'm not exactly sure why I felt compelled to see + her that day; I had nothing in particular on my mind. It was a pleasant + reunion. We chatted for some time, and then Carolina decided to see if + there was anything "out there" that she could "pick up" for me. She + proceeded to give me a reading lasting nearly an hour. It must have + been an exceptionally good day for her, because there was a lot "out + there" and it was amazingly accurate. Among other things, she told me + that I had a blood disorder, and that she kept seeing "too much red"; + she sensed that I would be quitting smoking soon, and informed me that + I would be successful; she told me that my mother was about to fall + ill; she told me my father might loose a toe due to gangrene; and most + amazingly, with a surprized and quizzical look on her face, she asked + me "Have you recently had contact with extraterrestrials?" Up to that + point, everything she told me had been phrased as a statement, but this + was apparently so preposterous that even she doubted it, and phrased it + as a question instead. I was completely taken aback by her query- I + hadn't thought about aliens or UFOs in years. Caroli na had absolutely + no idea that it had been a former interest of mine. For a moment time + seemed to stand still- on the inside, I thought that she was entirely + off-base, and I was ready to tell her so, but my body seemed to have a + mind of its own as I watched myself mumble, "I don't know." I still + wonder why I said that, because it truly betrayed what I was feeling at + the moment. She immediately answered back by saying, "I think you do + know, because I'm seeing this very clearly now." + + At that statement, I felt the flush of anger course through my body. + I felt like a man who had just been told he was about to die, and given + the exact date. I blurted out, "I don't think you're supposed to be + telling me this! If you saw that I was going to be killed next week, + would you tell me that too?" Carolina smiled and said, "They only show + me what I can tell a person. If you're not meant to know, my guides + don't show me." My stomach tight and my heart racing, I replied, "But + don't you think this is a little too scary?" Again smiling, she said, + "Oh, it's only scary in a fun kind of way." For a moment I thought she + was being sarcastic. "How could she be so insensitive to my anxiety?", + I thought. I felt the anger well up from within me again. "Fun!, What + the hell is so fun about being poked and prodded and violated by + hideously ugly creatures in the middle of the night!", I thought to + myself. And then something snapped. I thought to myself, "What in God's + name am I thinking about? Why has such an innocent statement from + Carolina caused such fear and anger within me? What is this about being + poked, prodded, and violated? Where did I get that from? Carolina never + said anything about that!" And then I realized that my outward + appearance was betraying my inner anxiety. True to my English blood, I + appeared quite calm and collected to Carolina, even though my mind and + heart were racing. She apparently didn't realize the implications and + consequences of her revelation to me. "This is a first for me," she + said, "In all my years, I have never picked up anything about + extraterrestrials from a person." "Surely you have at least read a book + or two on the subject", I replied. "No, I never have," she said, "It's + never interested me in the least. There are too many problems down here + to be worried about what might or might not be going on up there." I + was amazed. Like a curtain being lifted in my memory, I suddenly + remembered a night about two weeks prior during which an unusual + occurrence had happened. It surprized me that I hadn't made the + connection sooner. I was sure this was what she was referring to! (to + be discussed in full later) Carolina continued her reading, and didn't + dwell on the subject of aliens, as if they were relatively unimportant. + Twice more during that hour, she made reference to them, although she + had no idea she was doing so. She said she had the image of an insect + with large eyes, but that it was symbolic, and I would know what it + meant. (I am sure this is symbolic for an alien.) Later, she made + reference to "burrowing", but couldn't get anything further. (My gut + feeling was that this is connected to them also, but I'm not sure why + or how.) The following week I thought a lot about my visit with + Carolina as I watched her short term predictions come true one by one. + Although she had no way of knowing that I was planning on quitting + smoking, almost a month prior I had consented to participate in a + clinical study at Stanford Medical Center for the approval of a new + drug by the FDA. It was a double-blind, placebo vs. real study to test + the efficacy of the transdermal nicotine patch as a therapy for smoking + cessation. Requisite to participating in the study, I had a complete + physical during my first visit on March 28. On April 5, I returned to + pick up my supply of nicotine patches, but I was shocked to learn that + I had failed the blood test! Although I was not disqualified from the + study, Dr. Sachs informed me that I had a condition known as + "polycythemia", and advised me to see a hematologist. Polycythemia, the + exact opposite of anaemia, is the condition of having too many red + blood cells. Although smokers almost always have slightly elevated + hemoglobin and red cell counts, mine was far too high to be explained + by such. The doctor explained that it can be caused by spleen + dysfunction, but, that didn't appear to be my case, as indicated from + the other test results of my physical. He told me that having too many + oxygen-carrying red blood cells is usually the result of prolonged + exposure to thin atmosphere, and that athletes sometimes take illegal + drugs to achieve such an effect in order to increase their endurance in + high altitudes (such as in the marathon up Pike's Peak every year.) + Further, he informed me that my ruddy complexion was most likely due to + the blood disease. I was shocked! Not only was Carolina correct, but I + seriously began to wonder if this had anything to do with possible + alien contact, and "thin atmosphere." For almost a year, friends had + asking me if I had a sunburn, but I always dismissed it. On Friday, + April 6, I quit smoking. Later that day my father called me from + Indiana to inform me that my mother had taken ill, and was in the + hospital. She had a flare-up of her mitral valve heart condition, a + bladder infection, and an extreme case of shingles. During our + conversation, my father told me that he wasn't doing so well himself; + he has diabetes, and his big toe had turned completely black! + "OhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGod...", my mind was reeling, "how could Carolina be + so correct about everything!", I thought to myself, "If she has been + right about everything so far, what am I to think about her claim that + I have been in contact with extraterrestrials?" As I have mentioned + earlier in this paper, during my visit with Carolina I suddenly + remembered a night, sometime in March, where there had been an unusual + occurrence. I can't recall exactly what day it was, but Jim, my lover + and companion of ten years, confronted me as soon as he had awoken, + "You haven't gone out this morning for anything, have you?" "No, + honey," Ireplied, still dressed in my nightshirt and sitting at the + computer, "does it look like it?" "Well the door is unlocked," he + informed me. I got up immediately, and Jim demonstrated that both the + dead bolt and the doorknob latch were undone. I thought about the + matter for a few moments and said "Are you sure you didn't open it when + you got up? I remember double checking it before I went to bed, and it + was already locked." Jim replied, "I remember checking it before I went + to bed also, and it was locked then too." After a few moments he added, + "It's possible that I may have unlocked the dead bolt without thinking, + but that wouldn't explain why the doorknob latch is undone." (The door + handle has to be turned to open the door from the inside before the + doorknob latch is undone, and we never open the front door in the + morning until we're ready to go out, since we do not subscribe to any + newspapers. If for some reason we want to check on the weather, we + always open the sliding balcony door. Neither Jim or I would think of + opening the front door while still in our nightclothes.) The matter was + out of my mind within a few minutes, but Jim was not about to let the + subject drop. He made me call the manager that afternoon to ask if they + or any maintenance people had been in our apartment without our + consent. The manager assured me that they had not, and said that they + would always consult us before such an intrusion. Jim became obsessed + with the matter, and forced me to recreate every step I had taken the + night before. After all the thinking he made me do, I just became more + sure that I had checked the lock at night, and certainly had not opened + it in the morning. Before going to bed the next night, Jim stacked two + spare stereo speakers up against the front door, so that if someone + were to open it, they would come tumbling down and alert him. Jim is a + very light sleeper; he had served in the armed forces during the + Vietnam War, and his father was a policeman, which may help to explain + why the thought of someone breaking into our apartment bothered him so + much. I also noticed that he made sure the baseball bat was within + reach of the bed that night. The following morning, I awoke first. I + stumbled out of bed and headed for the computer, my morning ritual. + Along the way to the den, I noticed that the stereo speakers Jim had so + carefully set out the night before were strewn across the floor. I + guess the seriousness of the situation didn't hit me at first. It took + me a few minutes before I decided to go back into the front room and + check the lock. One would think that I should have been alarmed at the + prospect of someone breaking in, but honestly, my thoughts were only + about how alarmed Jim was going to be when he discovered the situation. + I checked the door, and it was locked. I told myself that the speakers + had somehow accidentally fallen over in the night, and I stacked them + back up again, hoping that I could conceal it from Jim. + + I returned to the computer, but couldn't concentrate on what I was + doing; my conscience was bothering me. Jim and I have an extremely open + and honest relationship, much more so than any married couple I've ever + met. I went back out and put the speakers as I had found them, deciding + to let him know the truth. I'm not sure what Jim really thought. He + found it hard to accept that the speakers had fallen over without his + hearing them. Further, he questioned why the door was locked from the + inside, and yet the speakers had been knocked over. He thought my + behavior was particularly odd, in that I had initially tried to conceal + the fallen speakers, but then put them back as I had found them. At any + rate, we never discussed the subject again, and I was glad! I just + wanted to forget about the whole thing. Every night for several weeks, + Jim jammed the plastic runner up against the front door, but nothing + else unusual happened. Sometime later that week, I developed a somewhat + painful subcutaneous pimple in my pubic hair region. I didn't think + much about it at the time, except that I had never had a pimple in that + area before, nor one as deep below the skin and as painful. I forgot + all about this until just recently, on July 19, when I developed + another pimple in the same area, just after another unusual nocturnal + experience. It took me some time before I could accurately place a + time-frame on the occurrence of my first pimple. April 11, I flew out + to Chicago to visit my mother in the hospital, and forced my father to + have his bad toe looked at. Sometime while I was away, Jim stopped + protecting the door every night and eventually forgot about it. I + returned home April 18, just in time to greet our house-guest from Los + Angeles, our good friend, Dave. During his visit with us, I took Dave + aside and told him of the strange events in March, and of what Carolina + had said. I convinced him to try and hypnotize me, so that I might be + able to recall the event s more clearly. It took a great deal of + persuasion to talk him into it, since he said that he had no experience + at hypnosis, and was not eager to try. Nevertheless, he eventually gave + in, but we had mixed results at the effort. Nothing of interest really + occurred, except that the following morning I felt really negative + about the whole thing and destroyed the tape-recorded transcript of my + hypnosis session. I didn't remember what I had said, and at that point, + I didn't want to either. I never admitted to Dave what had happened to + the tape. Before he left for Los Angeles, Dave warned me that anything + I might try to find out about my possible abduction experience would + most likely be contaminated by all the books I've read. Life went on + more-or-less as usual for the next several months. I resumed smoking + again, my performance at school dropped sharply, and I started drinking + before going to bed. When Summer came, I avoided getting a job, and + stayed up later and later every night. I tried to put the subject of + UFOs out of my mind, but only with marginal success. My attitude on the + subject fluctuated from wishing that I could forget it all, to openly + inviting another experience. Twice I purposefully went camping in + extremely remote areas, hoping that I could induce an abduction. + Needless to say, my effort was futile (at least as far as I can + remember.) If aliens were abducting me, then they had their own + schedule, and my invitation didn't matter one bit. Then on July 17, it + happened again. I had been plagued by an uneasy feeling all evening. I + thought about having a glass of wine, but Jim coaxed me into bed early + that night (around 2 am), telling me we needed to get up by a decent + hour the next day. I am normally a very heavy sleeper, and I fall + asleep quickly, but that night was to be an exception. I laid in bed, + tossing and turning for what seemed like hours, never truly falling + asleep. I can recall listening to the slow, deep rhythm of Jim's + breathing pattern, and being surprised that my restlessness wasn't + disturbing him. The last thing I remember is the sensation of my heart + pounding rapidly as I was overcome with extreme fear. And then + suddenly, it was light out! A thought entered my head, but before I + could think further, "Rap Rap Rap", three loud bangs resounded + throughout the apartment, causing me to fear that we were in the midst + of another earthquake. I looked at the clock, and was shocked to + discover that it was already after 6 am. Whatever that first thought + was, it was completely lost in the immediate confusion. I became aware + that my bladder was painfully full, and gently got up so as to not + awaken Jim, who was still sleeping soundly beside me. When I returned + to bed, Jim asked me what I was doing up already. Apparently, as silent + as I had been, my movement had awoken him, even though the three loud + bangs had not. Further, I questioned why my earlier restlessness had + not disturbed his sleep, but this had. I haven't had to get up to empty + my bladder in the middle of the night since childhood, and I began to + wonder why it was so extremely full, especially considering that I + hadn't had anything to drink the night before. I was sure that I had + never actually fallen asleep, but yet I seemed to "wake up", with the + sun already shining. I put on my night-mask to block out the daylight, + and returned to bed. And then I remembered something... With the + clarity equal to any image seen through my own eyes, I beheld the + likeness of an alien. In my mind's eye, I held that vision and examined + it. As I inspected the roundness of his hairless cranium, I became + amazed at how real and three-dimensional the image looked, much more + than any photograph could ever approach. I observed the color of his + skin, and was quite surprized to learn that my previous conceptions + were all wrong. My earlier ideas of what an alien should look like were + based upon the dust jacket of Whitley Strieber's book, Communion, and + on the TV movie about The Interrupted Journey. His skin was a creamy + grey, much less grey than I had previously imagined. There was a tinge + of green, but as subtle as the green in a black person's complexion. I + thought to myself that an unsophisticated eye might not even pick up on + the green. Overall, I would describe his complexion as simply pale. + Only if I wished to emphasize its unusual nature, would I use the word + "grey." Then I focussed upon his eyes. In the past, we had two pet + cockatoos, a Moluccan and a Sulpher-crested, both of which had eyes as + black as coal. It is said that the birds can be sexed by examining + their eyes for the subtle hint of brown, and I thought of the many + times I had stared intently into the birds' eyes. It was like a feeling + of deja' vu, for I was sure that within the alien's eyes, I could pick + up some extremely subtle gradations of color. Furthermore, these ever- + so-sublte variations in the color seemed to indicate not just one + circular iris within each eye, but perhaps two or more, although I + somehow "knew" that their eyes were more than just visual organs, and + the non-primary circular markings were not really a visual iris. + (...that they had only one real visual iris within each eye) + Additionally, it struck me at how the eyes were far less almond- shaped + and less wrap-around than I had thought before. It made me think that + the illustration of an alien on Communion was analogous to the Kroft + puppeteer's version of Ronald Reagan: a highly stylized caricature. + Then the image came to life! The thought was somehow conveyed to me + that he was acknowledging the presence of orthodontic braces on my + teeth. In a manner analogous to "I've seen yours, so now I'll show you + mine," he proceeded to open up his little round mouth and let me look + in. When his nearly lip-less mouth was shut, it seemed to call no + attention to itself, but when opened, I noticed that he, like us, had + muscles beneath the skin. The effect of seeing the tightened muscles + beneath his skin made me think that he was capable of expression, in an + otherwise expressionless face. Within the mouth, I observed a + semicircular ridge of hardened tissue, which he called his "primary + mastication NOUN." + + It seemed like he was using telepathy to communicate, and my mind was + responsible for translations into the English language. The "NOUN" + carried a meaning like "organ", "appendage", or "device," but the exact + word to convey the true meaning is not within my vocabulary, and it's + making me very frustrated as I write this. I somehow seemed to "know" + that they eat very soft foods, like being a vegetarian in England. The + hardened ridge of tissue was unsegmented, unlike ordinary human teeth. + With that, the image faded from my mind. What has taken me two long + paragraphs to write happened in only a few seconds of time. The image + was definitely a memory, and not something that was happening at that + moment. Whether the memory is of a dream or reality, I will probably + never know. After recalling the unusual experience above, the feeling + of contentedness overwhelmed me. My bladder now empty and Jim's warm + body next to mine, I immediately fell soundly asleep. I didn't wake up + until after 11 am the following morning, and was relieved that I had + finally (post 6 am) been able to get a normal night's sleep. Fully + cognizant of the aforementioned experience, I immediately proceeded to + the computer and wrote everything down. While sit ting at the keyboard + and unconsciously scratching at my dandruff patch, I became aware that + my dandruff was severely aggravated, and I had a painful welt next to + it! For about a year, more-or-less coinciding with people telling me + that I had a sunburn (polycythemia), I have had a localized patch of + dandruff at the base of my skull. More specifically, if you run your + finger up along the cervical vertebrae, you will reach a slight + concavity between two muscles at the point where the neck meets the + head, in the occipital region of the cranium. It is in that spot that I + have my dandruff patch. I use the word "dandruff", for lack of + something better, because it is most likely some other skin disorder, + since I have an otherwise oily scalp . I have tried every name-brand + dandruff shampoo, and nothing seems to help, but fortunately, it hasn't + spread beyond that highly localized area. On this day, July 18, and for + several days afterward, the patch seemed to be draining some sort of + fluid from the painful welt which was just above and to the left of my + patch. As of this writing, (August 7), that welt has not entirely + subsided. On July 19, the following day, I developed another painful + welt on the right side of the dandruff patch, almost a mirror image. + Coinciding again with the development of my dandruff patch and my + polycythemia, for about a year I have been plagued by excessive + perspiration. For no apparent reason, I would sweat from my armpits in + phenomenal amounts. + + Neither nervousness, heat, nor physical exertion seemed to be + responsible. All of my good shirts are permanently stained. When my + armpits were on a roll, the sweat would pour forth at a rate roughly + equal to that achieved by crying; perhaps between 4 to 8 ounces in a + half hour. This had been an embarrassing situation for me for quite + some time, and when I mentioned it to Carolina during my visit with + her, she told me that I should drink the juice of a whole lemon in warm + water every day. I tried that a few times without noticeable success, + so I gave up. I had also invested a small fortune in a vast array of + brand-name antiperspirants, but to no avail. Now suddenly, on July 18, + the perspiration stopped, however I didn't realize as such until July + 19. Whether this is psychosomatic or real, I will be eternally grateful + that my sweating ordeal is finally over! Thank you!!! On July 19, I + developed a rather painful pimple, deep below the skin in my pubic hair + region. It struck me as really strange that I should develop another + one in that same general area, so shortly after my first. Prior to the + first, which I placed at a few months earlier, I had never had anything + like that. My skin in that area is nothing like the skin on my forehead + or upper back, which tends to be more oily. Furthermore, this was not + an ordinary pimple; it was very deep and painful. For most of the rest + of the day, I tried to place a time-frame on the occurrence of the + first pimple. Eventually, I came to the conclusion that it had happened + sometime in mid to late March, using my journal and computer calendar + as a reference. I found this as somewhat noteworthy, since that + coincided with my first unusual nocturnal experience. Sometime during + the next few days, the Goodyear Blimp flew over. I was sitting at the + computer when Jim called me into the front room, bringing it to my + attention. I would say that the event was slightly unusual, because + I've never seen the blimp this far removed from a major metropolitan + area; we're about 50 miles north of San Francisco. It was travelling + from the Southeast to the Northwest, heading directly toward us at a + leisurely pace. I ran and grabbed the camcorder and recorded it as the + blimp proceeded to fly directly over us. We could clearly hear the + whirring of its engines as it passed our exact zenith. I am not + exaggerating when I say directly over us! We both wondered where it + might be going to, for at its present course, it w ould be over the + ocean in a matter of minutes, and the nearest major city north of us is + Portland OR, nearly 600 miles away. I'm sure this event can be + explained rationally, but I decided to mention it because of its + unusual nature, and the proximity in time to my strange nocturnal + event. + + ----------------------- + + During the course of writing this document, I have had several + flashbacks to strange memories. In one memory, I seem to be quite + frustrated that I can't see as clearly as I'd like, because I'm not + wearing my eyeglasses. I thought this was taking place in an alien + craft. In another memory, I seemed to be getting a lecture about the + anatomical differences between the alien's brain and ours. He was very + interested in a small part of my brain, lying at its center, which he + described as "primitive." I think it may have had something to do with + emotion, and they didn't have that part of the brain. In contrast, he + showed me an image of a part of their brain which we do not have; it + was an extra small lobe in the occipital region, overlying both right + and left hemispheres equally. I have the feeling that it was used for + communication. I don't know how old these memories are, and I don't kno + w if they're memories of dreams or of reality. I am beginning to + seriously doubt my sanity. As I had written earlier, my life has been + dotted with minor strange anomalies, most of which I have filed away as + "unsolved mysteries", and forgotten. + + I have several early memories, centering around the age of three, + which might be suggestive of an early abduction experience. Then around + the time I reached puberty, a lot of strange things started happening. + There have also been a few occurrences during my high school years and + continuing into adulthood. A summary of these anomalous experiences + will be the subject of a future essay. I want to stress my honesty + about everything contained within this narrative. I have neither + fabricated or exaggerated a single word of the experience. I consider + myself to be a happy, well adjusted individual. I have a small circle + of close friends, and a healthy family life. I am normally a high + achiever both at work, and in school. I try to balance my intellectual + lifestyle with a healthy proportion of outdoor physical activities. I + have never needed the services of a psychologist, and there is no + history of mental illness in my family. It has only been within the + past few months that my life seems to be slipping downhill. I would + like to resolve this situation by reaching some conclusion as to the + reality of my experiences, so I can get on with my life. I would like + to know if I am going crazy, perhaps due to some undiscovered br ain + tumor, or if this could possibly be real. This essay is a desperate + plea for help. If there are any qualified UFO researchers, + psychologists, or otherwise interested parties who feel like my case + warrants further investigation, and would like to help me come to terms + with my experiences, I can be reached at:Chris Sargent(707) 585- + 8076WWIV Net: 82@7706I reserve all rights to this essay. No part of it + may be used or reproduced in any manner whatsoever without the written + permission of the author. I hereby grant permission for the electronic + transfer of this file to other Electronic Bulletin Board Systems, + provided that this file remains unaltered and intact. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3037.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3037.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..579ada04 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3037.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,222 @@ +SUBJECT: ABDUCTION INVESTIGATION FILE: UFO3037 + + + + + + + + + To: David Jacobs Message #: 2637 + From: Sheldon Wernikoff Submitted: 24 Jan 93 11:51:00 + Subject: Abduction Investigation ( Status: Public +Received: No Group: ABDUCT (4) + +RE: Abduction Investigation (1) +MSGID: 1:104/605 5101202a + +The following is a brief biographical profile of a possible abduction case I +have been investigating. It was composed by the percipient. Please let me know +what you think of this material. (sw) +_________________________________________________________________ +*** NOTE *** Personal names have been deleted in this public echo +_________________________________________________________________ + +FAMILY HISTORY: + +Percipient: Female, age 35, (Name Deleted) born 2/9/56 in Newport Beach, CA - +during a sizable earthquake. + +Mother: (Name Deleted) Born 7/29/28 (deceased 11/14/82). Of English and Creek +Indian (Muskogee Nation) ancestry (though not verifiable; suspect mother's +father bought ancestry papers to cover Indian roots). History of diabetes, +heart disease, cancer in family. Died from complications of diabetes. Was an +educator, painter, and numerologist. + +Father: (Name Deleted) Born 12/9/09. Still living - residing in nursing home, +suffering from advanced Parkinson's disease. Of Norwegian ancestry, first +person in his family to marry out of his nationality in 1000 years. History of +diabetes, and neurological diseases in family. Was a painter, educator and +theosophist. + +Siblings: Half sister from father's previous marriage - born 1/18/46 Half +brother from father's previous marriage - born 6/6/47 +Brother - born 11/14/58 +Sister - born 2/10/60 +Sister - born 8/21/64; deceased - died from neuroblastoma (Wilm's Tumor) +_________________________________________________________________ + +MEDICAL HISTORY: + +1) Complications from chicken pox at 6 months, went to lungs; caused weak +lungs - later developing into respiratory condition. Hospitalized several +times as a child with bronchial pneumonia. + +2) Menses at age 10 + +3) Scarlet fever at age 12 + +4) Hospitalized with mysterious abdominal distension and pain at age 16 + +5) Mysterious bleeding (bled for a month) at age 18 + +6) "Hysterical" episode at age 19. Found outside at night. Thought a man was +trying to cut out my baby (wasn't pregnant). Hospitalized, given elavil and +tranxene. + +7) Pelvic inflammatory disease at age 20 + +8) Persistent allergies at all ages + +9) Chronic nose bleeds and bleeding from ears (hemorrhaged both eardrums at +age 16). + +10) Broken back at age 23 + +11) Unexplained tumors at age 23 + +12) Hospitalizes for mysterious tumors, abdominal distension and pain, unusual +blood count - doctors thought I had cancer twice that year - age 24 + +13) Malaria at age 25 + +14) Recurring tumors at age 26 + +15) Pelvic inflammatory disease twice at age 27. Miscarriage. + +16) Diagnosed with Candida albicans and Hypothyroidism at age 29. + +17) Miscarriage at age 32 + +18) Diagnosed with diabetes at age 33 + +19) Complete hysterectomy at age 34 +_________________________________________________________________ +SEXUAL ABUSE: +1) Age 5: Molested by a neighbor boy. +2) Age 9: Molested by an elderly man who was a neighbor. +3) Age 11: Molested by a son of friends of the family. +4) Age 14: Forced seduction by a psychologist - was able to escape. +5) Age 22: Raped, drugged and held captive for 3 days by a + psychiatrist. Was not his patient. Didn't report it. + + +EXPERIENCES: + +1) Night terror dreams since infancy + +2) Age 3: Began playing with "light beings". Said that they were "Jesus and +his friends". Beings that emanated great amounts of light (as a child, equated +them with Italian holy pictures). My parents let me roam on our property, +unsupervised for hours. + +3) Age 3: Became extremely afraid in the evening hours. Would refuse to go to +bed because I felt that there were people outside my window waiting to take me +away. I began bringing large cardboard boxes into my room, so that I could +hide from them. Sometimes the fear would extend into the daylight hours. One +day, I became lost because I crawled into the crawlspace of our large two +story farmhouse, to escape "them". My parents were frantic! My father finally +rescued me from the bowels of the house, after a great amount of the day had +passed. + +4) Age 4: Began awaking at night expecting to find spiders in my bed. I became +transfixed by them - to the point that my father found me playing in a black +widow's nest. + +5) Age 6: Declared to an entire family gathering of 300, that I would never +have children. The same night, I saw a large ball of light streak across the +sky. My parents also saw it. They said: "Never mind, it must be Santa Claus". + +6) Age 8: Saw a large "angel" floating at eye level with me (I slept on the +top bunk of a bunk-bed) in the early morning hours. I bound out of bed to tell +my mother that St. Michael had just visited me. She humored me... + +7) Age 11: I was playing in a deserted farmhouse in Tennessee, with a +girlfriend - when we both suddenly realized we were in the middle of a huge +field of yellow flowers. It was strange. We hadn't noticed it before (we had +been playing for quite some time - and the farmhouse had no doors or windows, +so visually, it would be difficult to miss). We became almost "drugged" with +the discovery and I said: "Every time I'm sad, I'll remember this field, for +as long as I live". + +8) From 1976 to 1980, I did a lot of travelling throughout Northern New +Mexico. Every time I passed through Abique, Chama, or Questa areas, I would +feel extremely uncomfortable. I was strangely shaken by these places, and +every time I returned home I would turn on the radio and hear reports of +cattle mutilations in those same places, at the same times... + +9) Middle of October, 1980: I returned home late, after spending an evening +with friends (I had one drink and a puff on a joint, much earlier, with little +or no effect). I put my key in the lock and was stunned by a powerful light. I +looked to my right and saw an immense ship, that covered my entire field of +vision. I got a sudden, but profound look at it! The next thing I remember is +being crouched in the corner of my portal, completely naked (but oddly warm). +I looked up to see all my clothes neatly folded and stacked by the door, and +the key still in the lock. I quickly gathered my things, went inside, and +noticed the clock. I was shocked to discover 6 missing hours. I slipped into +bed. The next thing I remember was a deep voice in my head saying: "We are all +ONE". The next morning I told a couple of friends. They didn't believe me, but +begged me not to report it. We turned on the radio, just as the disc jockey +was announcing that there were 8 sightings of a UFO the night before. I +remained silent. + +10) June 1986: My husband and I were caught in a large fog bank in Arkansas. +Upon emerging from it (we were driving a pick-up truck and hauling a utility +trailer), we saw a large day-glow green ball fly across the sky, landing in a +clump of trees to our right. The next thing we remember is a coyote staring at +us from the road, with day-glow green eyes - the exact color of the flying +ball. We were not wearing watches and the truck did not have a clock. We were +very shaken, and ended up driving all night, to get the hell out of Arkansas! + +11) Santa Fe, NM, September 1988: Watching television one evening when out of +the corner of my eye, I saw a large, bright, purple ball streak across the +sky. Curious, I stood to catch a better look at it. I saw it land beside the +prison (a few miles away as the crow flies). When it landed, it illuminated +the entire sky for about 2 seconds. Later that night, I bolted to a sitting +position, in bed. I felt that something was wrong with the house - I jumped +out of bed to discover that the front door was wide open. When I awoke, my +pillow case had blood on it. Both my husband and I were having a lot of +nosebleeds at that time. My ears were also bleeding and I had strange marks on +my body that I went to the doctor about. She's ruled out fungus - she didn't +know what it was. It was a triangle, in the middle of a circle. + +12) Grand Junction, CO, August 1989: I awoke in my motel room (we were on +holiday) to find two beings on top of the table, directly in front of me. I +pinched myself to make sure that I was awake. Indeed I was! I walked over to +them. I reached up to touch one of them. The next thing I remember I was lying +in bed, in the morning. + +13) Newport, OR, Sunday, 12:30 A.M. - 3:24 A.M., 11/18/90: I was watching +Saturday Night Live. Paul Simon was on, I noticed the time. I was alert and +very much awake, but all of a sudden I was in a dream with a friend and two +men in black suits, escorting us to a large silver disc. The next thing I +remember was sitting back on my couch, watching a show on UFOs. + +14) Newport, OR, Saturday, 2 A.M. - 2:51 A.M., 12/1/90: I was just getting +into bed, when I noticed a strange, bright green line, glowing above the +curtains in the bedroom. I stood up and walked over to it to investigate. I +felt a "presence" in back of me. I turned around and saw in the hallway +mirror, a shadow about 3 feet tall and whitish. I made a bolt, trying to catch +it. The next thing I know, I'm sitting up in bed looking at the clock. +_________________________________________________________________ + +COMMENTS: (percipient's) + +After all these years of strange occurrences, my curiosity is keener than +ever, I've gone through stages of denial and complete doubt. I've mentally +investigated many possibilities that might be causing such happenings - but, I +am constantly haunted by dreams, curious feelings (on all levels) and strange +marks on my body - not to mention chronic ailments of unknown origin. I'm not +only concerned about my experiences and their ramifications, but my husbands +role and safety through all this. I have been drug and alcohol free for almost +8 years, and don't partake in caffeine or tobacco either. My husband is +equally strict with himself. + + + + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3038.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3038.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..67deb281 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3038.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,828 @@ +SUBJECT: THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI FILE: UFO3038 + + +PART 1 + + + +Date: 25 Jul 93 13:50:34 CDT +Organization: Sim's Electronic Musicians' Publishing Company + +#394 alt.alien.visitors 52k +From: jpg3196@eafs000.ca.boeing.com (James P. Galasyn) +Subject: They're not from Zeti Reticuli +Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 19:38:00 GMT +Organization: bf52b + + + III. Applications + + So we now have some idea of the tools available to the 'spy-chiatrists.' +How have these tools been used? + This question necessarily involves some detective work. The Central +Intelligence Agency, under duress, provided some, though not enough, documen- +tation of its efforts to commandeer 'the space between our ears.' We know that +these efforts were extensive, long-term, and at least partially successful. We +know also that these experiments used human subjects. But who? When? + One paradox of this line of inquiry is that, for many readers, the victims +elicit sympathy only insofar as they remain anonymous. Intellectually, we +realize that MKULTRA and its allied projects must have affected hundreds, +probably thousands, of individuals. Yet we react with deep suspicion +whenever one of these individuals steps forward and identifies himself, or +whenever an independent investigator argues that mind control has directed some +newsworthy person's otherwise inexplicable actions. Where, the skeptic may +rightfully ask, is the documentation supporting such accusations? Most of the +MKULTRA 'paper trail' was (allegedly) burnt at Richard Helms' order; what's +left has been censored, leaving black ink smudges wherever the names originally +appeared. Claimed mind control victims can, for the most part, only give us +testimony -- and how reliable can such testimony be, especially in light of the +fact that one purpose of MKULTRA was to induce insanity? Anyone asserting that +he was victimized by the program might well be seeking an extrinsic excuse for +his own psychopathology. If you say that you are a manufactured madman, you +were probably mad to begin with: Catch 22. + When John Marks wrote THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE' he received +numerous letters from people insisting that they had been drugged, 'waved,' or +otherwise abused by the CIA or the military. Most of these communications went +directly into his crank file. Perhaps many deserved that destination; I know +of at least one that did not[94]. + Marks did, however, devote much attention to Val Orlikov, a former 'patient' +of perhaps the most notorious figure in the annals of American medical crime: +Dr. Ewen ('BoB') Cameron, a CIA-funded scientist heading the Allan Memorial +Institute at McGill University, Montreal, Canada. Cameron, a highly-respected +mental health researcher[95], experimented with a technique he called 'psychic +driving,' a brainwashing program which involved inflicting upon a subject an +endless tape loop blaring selected messages, 16-to-24 hours a day, combined +with massive electroshock and LSD. The project's 'guinea pigs' were patients +who had come to Allan Memorial with relatively minor psychological complaints. +Cameron's experiments failed and his theories were discredited, which may +explain why the CIA and its apologists now feel relatively comfortable +discussing the Frankensteinian efforts at Allan Memorial, as opposed to more +successful work elsewhere. + Orlikov's testimony has received much respectful attention from those +writers who have examined MKULTRA, and correctly so. When I studied the files +at the National Security Archives, I was particularly keen to read her original +letters to John Marks, for these pages had led to the unmasking of an +especially heinous CIA project. The letters, interestingly enough, proved just +as vague, disjointed, and bizarre as similar correspondence which researchers +routinely dismiss. Orlikov can't be blamed for the hazy nature of her +recollections; a certain amount of fog is to be expected, given the nature of +the crime perpetrated against her. The important point is that her story, +ultimately, was found to be true. All of which leads me to wonder: Why did +HER claims prompt investigation when those of others prompt only dismissal? +Perhaps the answer lies in the fact that Orlikov's husband became a Canadian +Member of Parliament. Any victims of CIA experimentation who wish to be taken +seriously ought, perhaps, first make sure to marry well. + Of course, we can easily forgive previous writers and readers whose +researches into MKULTRA have been biased in favor of complacency[96]. But we +can't let this natural prejudice cripple our present investigation. Let us +examine, then, a few of the 'horror stories' from the mind control literature +and highlight possible correlations to abductee testimony. + + +PALLE HARDRUP'S 'GUARDIAN ANGEL' + + As mentioned previously, I have not delved much into the subject of hypnosis +in this paper -- primarily because of space and time limitations, but also +because discussions of the possibilities of hypnosis PER SE tend to cloud the +issue of its use in conjunction with the above-mentioned electronic techniques. +Obviously, however, hypnosis is a major weapon in the mind controller's +armament; in a forthcoming full-length work, I intend to deal with this subject +at much greater length. + Needless to say, one of the primary objectives of MKULTRA and related +projects was to determine whether one could hypnotically induce someone to +commit an anti-social act. This possibility remains one of the most hotly- +debated issues in hypnosis, for conventional wisdom asserts that no individual +can be hypnotized to commit an action which violates his interior moral code. +Martin Orne, editor of the presitigious INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF CLINICAL AND +EXPERIMENTAL HYPNOSIS agrees with this axiom[97], and he is in a position to +codify much of the established view on this topic. Orne, however, is a +veteran of MKULTRA, and furthermore seems to have lied -- at least in his +original communications -- to author John Marks about his witting involvement +in subproject 94[98]. While I respect much of Orne's ground-breaking work, +his pronouncements do not hold, for this layman, an Olympian unassailability. + To be sure, many other hypnosis experts, untainted by Company connections, +also discount the possibility that anti-social actions can be induced. But a +number of highly-experienced professionals -- including Milton Kline, William +Kroger, George Estabrooks, John Watkins, and Herbert Spiegel -- have argued +that such actions can, at least to some degree, be elicited by an outside +manipulator. + Occasionally, claims of hypnotically-induced anti-social behavior find +their way into the courtroom; one such case, which led to the incarceration of +the hypnotist, was the Palle Hardrup affair. This incident occurred in +Denmark in 1951[99]. Palle Hardrup robbed a bank, killing a guard in the +process, and later claimed that he had been instructed to do so by the +hypnotist Bjorn Nielsen. Nielsen eventually confessed to having engineered +the crime as a test of his hypnotic abilities. + The most significant aspect of this incident concerns the 'pose' Nielsen +adopted to work his malicious designs. During the hypnosis sessions, Nielsen +hypnotically suggested that he was Hardrup's 'guardian angel,' represented +by the letter X. Hardrup testified that 'There is another room next door +where Nielsen and I go and talk on our own. It is there that my guardian +spirit usually comes and talks to me. Nielsen says that X has a task for me.' + One of these tasks was arranging for Hardrup's girlfriend to have sex with +the hypnotist. The other tasks, he mentioned, included robbery and murder. +Nielsen convinced his victim that 'X' wanted the robbery funds to be used for +worthwhile political goals. The end, Hardrup was told, justified the means. + Compare this scenario to that encountered in the typical contactee case, +in which alien 'guardians' convince their victims/subjects that the encounter +will eventually serve some unspecified 'higher purpose.' Indeed, in my +interviews with abductees who have established a 'long-term' relationship with +their visitors, I have found that some of them originally believed themselves +in contact with Hardrup-like angelic guardians. Only in recent years was the +'angel' pose discarded and the true 'alien' form revealed. + Thus we have one possible means of overcoming the proposition that hypnosis +cannot induce anti-social behavior. If a hypnotist lacks scruples, and has +access to a particularly susceptible subject, he can induce a MISPERCEIVED +REALITY. Actions which we would abhor in an everyday context become acceptable +in specialized circumstances: A citizen who could never commit murder on a +surburban street might, if drafted into an army, kill on the field of battle. +In hypnosis, the mind becomes that battlefield. In the words of Dr. John +Watkins, + + We behave on the basis of our perceptions. If our perceptions + of a situation can be altered so as to cause us to misconstrue it, + or to develop a false belief, then our behavior in relation to it + will be drastically altered. It is precisely in the area of + changing perceptions that the hypnotic modality demonstrates its + most powerful effects. Hallucinations both under hypnosis, and + posthypnotic, can easily be induced in the suggestible subject. + He can be made to ignore painful stimuli, be apparently unable + to hear loud sounds, AND 'SEE' INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT PRESENT + [my italics]. Moreover, attitudes and beliefs can be initiated + in him which are quite abnormal and often contrary to those + which he previously held[100]. + + If traditional hypnosis, unaided, can achieve such changes in perception, +one can only imagine the possibilities inherent in the combination of hypnotic +techniques with the psychoelectronic research previously described. + Scientists such as Orne and Milton Erickson[101] have taken issue with +Watkins' assertions. But the Hardrup case would appear to bear Watkins out. +If someone can be convinced that he, like Jeanne D'Arc, acts under the +influence of a supernatural higher power, then previously unthinkable +capabilitites may be evinced and 'impossible' actions carried forth. Indeed, +when we consider the extreme personality changes -- and occasionally, the +heinous actions, elicited by leaders of certain cults, and occult groups[102], +we understand the desirability of installing a hypnotic 'cover story' within a +supernatural matrix. People will do for God -- or the Devil, or the Space +Brothers -- what they would not do otherwise. + The date of the Hardrup affair corresponds to the institution of BLUEBIRD/ +ARTICHOKE; it doesn't require much imagination to see how this case could have +served as a model to the scientists researching those and subsequent projects. + + +SCREEN MEMORY + + According to declassified documents in the Marks files, a major difficulty +faced by the MKULTRA researchers concerned the 'disposal problem.' What to do +with the victims of CIA-sponsored electroshock, hypnosis, and drug experiment- +ation? The Company resorted to distressing, but characteristic, tactics: They +disposed of their human guinea pigs by incarcerating them in insane asylums, by +performing icepick lobotomies, and by ordering 'executive actions.'[103] + A more sophisticated solution had to be found. One of the goals of the +CIA's mind control efforts was the erasure of memory via hypnosis (and drugs, +electronics, lobotomies, etc.); not only would this hide what occurred during +the experimental indoctrination/programming sessions, it would prove useful in +the field. 'Amnesia was a big goal,' confirms Victor Marchetti, who points out +its usefulness in dealing with contract agents: 'After you've done it, the +agent doesn't even know what he's done...you send him in, he does the job. +When he comes out, you clean his head out.'[104] + The big problem: Despite hypnotically-induced amnesia, there would be memory +leaks -- snippets of the repressed material would arise spontaneously, in +dreams, as flashbacks, etc. A proposed solution: Give the subject a 'screen +memory,' a false story; thus, even if he starts to recall the material, he will +recall it incorrectly. + Even the conservative Dr. Orne notes that: + + A S [subject] who is able to develop good posthypnotic amnesia + will also respond to suggestions to remember events which did not + actually occur. On awakening, he will fail to recall the real + events of the trance and will instead recall the suggested events. + If anything, this phenomenon is easier to produce than total + amnesia, perhaps because it eliminates the subjective feeling of + an empty space in memory.[105] + + Not only would the screen memories fill in the uncomfortable blanks in the +subjects' recollection, they would protect against revelation. One fear of +the MKULTRA scientists was that a hypno-programmed individual used as, say, a +courier, could be un-programmed by another hypnotist, perhaps working for the +enemy. Thus, the MKULTRA scientists decided to instill multiple personalities +-- multiple cover stories, if you will -- to confuse any 'unauthorized' +hypnotist.[106] + One case using this technique centered on an assassin named Luis Castillo, +who, after his capture in the Philippines, was extensively de-briefed and +studied by experts in the employ of the National Bureau of Investigation, that +country's equivalent to our FBI. Castillo was discovered to have had at least +FOUR separate personalities hypnotically instilled; each personality could be +triggered by a specific cue. In one state, he claimed to be Sgt. Manuel Angel +Ramirez, of the Strategic Air Tactical Command in South Vietnam; supposedly, +'Ramirez' was the illegitimate son of a certain pipe-smoking, highly-placed CIA +official whose initials were A.D.[107] Another personality claimed to be one +of John F. Kennedy's assassins. + The main hypnotist involved with this case labelled these hypnotic alter- +egos 'Zombie states.' The report on the case stated that 'The Zombie pheno- +menon referred to here is a somnambulistic behavior displayed by the subject +in a conditioned response to a series of words, phrases, and statements, +apparently unknown to the subject during his normal waking state.' + Upon Castillo's repatriation to the United States, the FBI claimed that he +had fabricated the story. In his book OPERATION MIND CONTROL, Walter Bowart +makes a convincing case against the FBI's claims. Certainly, many aspects of +the Castillo affair argue for his sincerity -- including his hypnotically- +induced insensitivity to pain[108], his maintenance of the story (or stories) +even when severly inebriated, and his apparently programmed suicide attempts. + If Castillo told the truth, as I believe he did, then he manifested both +hypnotically-induced multiple personality and pseudomemory. The former remains +controversial; the latter has been repeatedly replicated in experimental +situations[109]. + This point is vitally important for students of the abduction phenomenon. +We CANNOT assume the accuracy of abduction descriptions given during subsequent +hypnotic regression. Moreover, we cannot even assume the accuracy of spon- +taneously-arising recollections (i.e., abduction memories not elicited through +hypnotic regression). Indeed, responsible skeptics have argued that hypnotic +regression may prove inadvertently harmful, in that it may lock in place a +false remembrance. (Note, however, that other psychiatric professionals +consider hypnotic regression the best technique, however flawed, in unlocking +amnesia[110]. For my part, I maintain an ambivalent and cautious attitude +toward the use of hypnosis in abductee work.) + Granted, it is all too easy for the debunkers to cry 'confabulation' to +dismiss hypnotic testimony which does not conform to our preconceptions about +the possible; I do not intend to make this same error. Whenever skeptics +offer the phenomenon of pseudomemory to rationalize abduction claims, they cite +experimental situations in which PSEUDOMEMORY WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED BY A +HYPNOTIST[111]. These experiments can not be cited as proof that an individual +abductee spontaneously conjured up a fantasy (which just happens to correspond +to the details of hundreds of similar 'fantasies'). Rather, laboratory studies +of pseudomemory creation prove MY point: Pseudomemory can be induced BY +PREVIOUS HYPNOSIS[112]. + In other words, an abductee may talk of aliens -- when the reality was +something else entirely. + In correspondence with me, a noted abduction researcher wrote of an instance +in which an abductee recounted seeing a helicopter during his experience; as +the abductee testimony progressed, the helicopter turned into a UFO. During one +of the (quite few) regression sessions I attended, I heard an exactly similar +narrative. Hopkins would argue that the helicopter was a 'screen memory' +hiding the awful reality of the UFO encounter. But does Occam's razor really +cut that way? Shouldn't we also consider the possibility that the object in +question really WAS a helicopter -- which the abductee was instructed to recall +as a UFO? + + +THE SUPER SPY + + Among the released BLUEBIRD/ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA papers was the following +handwritten memorandum, unsigned and undated: + + I have developed a technic which is safe and secure (free + from international censorship). It has to do with the + conditioning of our own people. I can accomplish this as a + one-man job. + The method is the production of hypnosis by means of + simple oral medication. Then (with NO further medication) + the hypnosis is re-enforced daily during the following three + or four days. + Each individual is conditioned against revealing any + information to an enemy, even though subjected to hypnosis + or drugging. If preferable, he may be conditioned to give + FALSE information rather than NO information. + + In the margin of this document, one of Marks' assistants wrote, 'Is this +Wendt?' The reference here is to G. Richard ('BoB') Wendt, a professor +employed by project CHATTER who, in 1951, led both his Naval employers and the +CIA on a mind control merry-goose-chase, when an experiment similar to that +described above failed to produce results[113]. Even if the above memorandum +DOES describe an operational failure (and the tactics described in this memo +do not seem very feasible to me), we should not rest complacent. We now know +that, in at least ONE case, more sophisticated techniques made the above +scenario a reality. + I refer to the case of Candy Jones. + Her story has filled at least one book[114] and ought, one day, to give rise +to another. Obviously, I cannot here give all the details of this fascinating +and frightening narrative. But a precis is mandatory. + Ms. Jones (born Jessica Wilcox) achieved star status as a model during +World War II, and later established her own modelling agency. An FBI man +requested her to allow her place of business to be used as a 'mail drop' for +the Bureau and 'another government agency' (presumably, the CIA); Candy, deeply +patriotic, accepted the proposition gladly. Toiling on the fringes of the +clandestine world, Candy eventually came into contact with a 'Dr. Gilbert +Jensen,' who worked, in turn, with a 'Dr. Marshall Burger.' (Both names are +pseudonyms.) Unknown to her, these doctors had been employed as 'spy- +chiatrists' by the CIA. Using a job interview as a cover, Jensen induced +hypnosis, found Candy to be a particularly responsive subject -- and proceeded +to use her as other scientists would use a rhesus monkey. She became a test +subject for the CIA's mind control program. + Her job -- insofar as it is known -- was to provide a clandestine courier +service[115]. Estabrooks had outlined the basic idea years earlier: Induce +hypnosis via a disguised technique, give the messenger information to +memorize, hypnotically 'erase' the message from conscious memory, and install +a post-hypnotic suggestion that the message (now buried within the sub- +conscious) will be brought forth only upon a specific cue. If the hypnotist +can create such a courier, ultra-security can be guaranteed; even torture won't +cause the messenger to tell what he knows -- because he doesn't know that he +knows it[116]. According to the highly respected Dr. Milton Kline, 'Evidence +really does exist that has not been published' proving that Estabrooks' perfect +secret agent could be successfully evoked[117]. + Candy was one such success story. Success, in this context, means that she +could be -- and was -- brutally tortured and abused while running assignments +for the CIA. All the MKULTRA toys were brought into play: hypnosis, drugs, +conditioning -- and electronics. Using these devices, Jensen and Burger +managed to: + +-- install a 'duplicate personality,' + +-- create amnesia of both the programming sessions and the field assignments, + +-- turn Candy into a vicious, hate-mongering bigot, the better to isolate her + from the rest of humanity (previously, her associates considered her + noteworthy for her racial tolerance; her modelling agency was one of the + first to break the color barrier), and + +-- program her to commit suicide at the end of her usefulness to the Agency. + + The programming techniques used on her were flawed. She breached security +when she married famed New York radio personality John Nebel[118], who, using +hypnotic regression, elicited the long-repressed truth. Eventually, the +'Other Candy' was bade farewell, and the programming broken. + Skeptics might find Candy's story as incredible as the abduction accounts-- +after all, an amateur had conducted her hypnotic regression, and the possi- +bility of confabulation always lurks. Nevertheless, I feel that the veracity +of her narrative has been established beyond reasonable doubt. In her hypnotic +regression sessions, she recalled being programmed at a government-connected +institute in northern California -- which, as John Marks' investigators later +proved, was indeed heavily involved with government-funded brainwashing +research[119]. Marks himself believes Candy's story -- not least, because the +details of the programming methods used on her were substantiated by documents +released AFTER her book was published[120]. Interviews with Milton Kline, +Dr. Frances Jakes, John Watkins and others provided the testimony that the +programming of Candy Jones was feasible -- and Deep Trance substantiated the +story[121]. + Recently, the case has received important 'indirect' confirmation: +Investigators interested in follow-up research have filed FOIA requests with +the CIA for all papers relating to Candy Jones. The agency admits that it has +a substantial file on her, but refuses to release any part of it. If her tale +is false, then why would the CIA be so reluctant to deliver the information? +Indeed, why would they have a file in the first place?[122] + The final confirmation of Candy's tale requires a revelation -- one which I +make with some trepidation, even though the individual named is dead. + 'Marshall Burger' was really Dr. William Kroger[123]. + Kroger, long associated with the espionage establishment, had written the +following in 1963: + + ...a good subject can be hypnotized to deliver secret + information. The memory of this message could be covered + by an artificially-induced amnesia. In the event that he + should be captured, he naturally could not remember that he + had ever been given the message...however, since he had + been given a post-hypnotic suggestion, the message would be + subject to recall through a specific cue.[124] + + If Candy confabulated her story, why did she name this particualr scientist, +who, writing theoretically in 1963, predicted the subsequent events in her +life?[125] + After L'AFFAIR JONES, Kroger transferred his base of operations to UCLA -- +specifically, to the Neuropsychiatric Institute run by Dr. Louis Jolyon West, +an MKULTRA veteran. There he wrote HYPNOSIS AND BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION[126], +with a preface by Martin Orne (another MKULTRA veteran) and H.J. Eysenck (still +another MKULTRA veteran). The finale of this opus contains chilling hints +of the possibilites inherent in combining hypnosis with ESB, implants, and +conditioning -- though Kroger is careful to point out that 'we are not +concerned that man might be conditioned by rewards and punishments through +electronic brain stimulation to be controlled like robots.'[127] HE may not +be concerned -- but perhaps WE ought to be. + The control of Candy Jones gives us much information useful to our 'alien +abduction' hypothesis. + 1. Her torture sessions -- inflicted during her programming by her CIA +masters, and on missions by as-yet mysterious persons -- seem strikingly like +the otherwise senselessly painful 'examinations' allegedly conducted aboard +alien spacecraft. + 2. Her personality shifts roughly parallel those experienced by certain UFO +abductees. + 3. Despite her brutalization, she remained 'loyal' to Drs. Jensen and +Burger. This bewildering behavior reminds me of my first abductee interviews, +during which I heard ghastly descriptions of UFO torture sessions -- followed +by protestations of limitless love for the alien pain-mongers. + 4. Like many abductees, Candy had to attend regular 'conditioning' sessions. +Repeated exposure to the programming is necessary to effect continuous control. + 5. To maintain their hammerlock on her mind, Candy's handlers programmed her +to remain isolated. Specifically, they instilled a deep paranoia toward other +human beings; 'outsiders' were probable enemies, out to use or abuse her. I +have seen this pattern consistently in my own work with abductees[128]. Skep- +tics would argue that unreasonable abductee fears probably indicate paranoid +schizophrenia--one symptom of which can, indeed, be hallucinatory experiences. +But most abductees are easily hypnotized, while paranoid schizophrenics are +extremely difficult to 'put under,' according to Dr. Edward Simpson-Kallas, a +psychiatrist with wide experience in the area of forensic hypnosis[129]. If, +however, those unreasonable fears had been hypnotically induced, the contra- +diction is resolved. + 6. Candy was the product of an unhappy childhood, hence her propensity +toward multiple personality[130]. Many of the 'repeater' abductees I have +interviewed had similarly depressing family histories[131]. + 7. The story of Candy Jones also has what we might call a 'negative +relevance' to the abduction accounts. Because the Controllers did not +establish a hypnotic cover story, or pseudomemory, the true facts of the case +managed to percolate into her conscious mind. No matter how thorough the post- +hypnotic amnesia, leaks will occur -- hence the need for a false memory, to +fill the gap of recollection. The CIA learns from its mistakes. Candy's +hypno-programming broke down in early 1973 -- the year the 'alien disguise' +became (if my hypothesis proves correct) standard operating procedure[132]. +(Milton Kline accepted the Candy Jones story, but considered the job amateurish +and inconsistent with the best work done at that time[133]. Perhaps the major +fault was the lack of a pseudomemory cover story?) + + +BASES OF SUSPICION + + 'Underground base' rumors are as hot as jalapenos in the UFO field right +now, and several of these stories involve abductions. + For example, a sideshow of the famous Bentwaters UFO case involves the +abduction of an airman named Larry Warren to an underground cavity beneath the +military base. There, while in what he later described as 'a bit of a drugged +state,' he saw aliens and human beings -- military figures -- working side-by- +side[134]. + I have spoken to another abductee, Nancy Wright, who was allegedly taken to +an underground chamber ten miles north of Edwards AFB, California. As this +was a multiple-witness event, and Ms. Wright has not attempted to capitalize on +the story for financial gain, I tend to credit her story[135]. According to +abduction researcher Miranda Parks, an elderly couple living in the vicinity +was also abducted in an exactly similar fashion[136]. + In 1979, Paul Bennewitz and Leo Sprinkle researched a particularly +controversial abduction involving a young woman (name unrevealed) who was +apparently taken to a facility where aliens processed fluids and body parts +from a cattle mutilation. This investigation seems to have led to the +government harassment of Bennewitz, in which some form of mind control (or, as +I have previously referred to it, 'electronic GASLIGHT') may have played a +part[137]. + How do we account for these tales of alleged alien skullduggery carried out +in conjunction with the military? I, for one, cannot credit the generally- +unsubstantiated tales of 'cosmic conspiracy' now promulgated by ex-intelligence +agents such as John Lear and William Cooper. While I cannot assert insincerity +on the part of these men, I often wonder if they have been used as conduits -- +witting or unwitting -- in a sophisticated disinformation scheme. + A simpler, though no less chilling, explanation for the 'base' abductions +may be found in the story of Dr. Louis Jolyon ('boB') West, now notorious for +his participation in MKULTRA experiments with LSD[138]. Inspired by VIOLENCE +AND THE BRAIN (a book by Drs. Frank ('Bob') Ervin and Vernon H. ('BoB') Mark +which ascribed inner city turmoil to a 'genetic defect' within rebellious +blacks), West proposed, in 1973, a Center for the Study and Reduction of +Violence, where potentially violent individuals could be dealt with +prophylactically. ['I was cured, all right.' - A CLOCKWORK ORANGE -jpg] + And who were these individuals? According to West's proposal, the note- +worthy factors indicating a violent predisposition were 'sex (male), age +(youthful), ethnicity (black) and urbanicity.' How to deal with them? '...by +implanting tiny electrodes deep within the brain, electrical activity can be +followed in areas that cannot be measured from the surface of the scalp...it is +even possible to record bioelectrical changes in the brains of freely-moving +subjects, through the use of remote monitoring techniques...' By monitoring +the subjects' EEGs remotely, potentially violent episodes could be identified. + For our purposes, the most significant aspect of this proposal had to do +with location. In a secret communication to Dr. J.M. ('BoB') Stubblebine, +director of the California State Department of Health (fortunately, this +missive was 'leaked' to the public), West disclosed that he intended to house +his Center in an abandoned Nike missile base, whose location was accessible +yet relatively remote. 'The site is securely fenced,' West wrote. 'Compara- +tive studies could be carried out there, in an isolated but convenient +location, of experimental model programs, for the alteration of undesirable +behavior.'[139] + Public outcry stopped these plans. But was this scheme truly eliminated? +Or was it merely modified, stripped (temporarily) of its overtly racial +overtones and relocated to some less-accessible spot? + One thing is certain: A CIA 'spy-chiatrist' favored secret behavior control +experimentation in a remote military installation. Perhaps someone within the +espionage establishment's mind-modification divisions still thinks highly of +the idea. If so, the disposal problem would once again rear its ugly head, +should 'visitors' to these installations ever reappear in outside society. +Again, a hypno-programmed cover story -- the less believable, the better -- +would prove invaluable. + + +THE SCANDINAVIAN CONNECTION + + Many books have been written about abductees, yet few exist about the +victims of mind control. I cannot understand this situation; the reality of +UFOs is still controversial, yet the existence of mind control was verified +in two (heavily compromised) congressional investigations and in thousands of +FOIA documents. Nevertheless, the abductees find many a sympathetic ear, while +those few who dare to proclaim themselves the victims of known government +programs rarely find anyone to hear them out. Our prejudices on this score are +regrettable, for if we listened to the 'controllees' we would hear many details +strikingly similar to those mentioned by UFO abductees. + Two cases in point: Martti Koski and Robert Naeslund. + Koski, a Finnish citizen, claims to have been a victim of mind control +experimentation while visiting Canada. Shortly after his experience began, he +attempted to broadcast his situation to the world and draw attention to his +plight. Few listened. Many of his details were bizarre, and not being a +native speaker of English, he could not express himself convincingly to those +he approached for help. Yet many aspects of his story correspond closely to +known details of MKULTRA and related programs. + Naeslund, a Swedish citizen, tells a similar story. Moreover, his claims +were backed by special evidence: X-rays revealed an implant in his brain. +Naeslund actually went to the extreme of having his implant tested by +electronic technicians employed by Hewlett-Packard. A Greek surgeon performed +the necessary trepanation to remove the device. + Many aspects of the Koski and Naeslund stories correspond to my hypothesis. +Koski, for example, was at one point told that the doctors afflicting him were +actually 'aliens from Sirius.' At another point, he was led to believe that +he was under direction of 'the Lord.' (As I previously indicated, manipulation +of religious imagery could help induce anti-social behavior; the subject's +super-ego can be nullified if he believes that he follows commands from on +high. Such manipulation may explain the more bizarre aspects of Betty +Andreasson Luca's abduction[140].) + Naeslund's implant was originally placed through his nasal cavity. He first +realized that something terrible had happened to him after an experience of +missing time, followed by an INEXPLICABLE NOSEBLEED. + This detail will be instantly familiar to anyone who has studied abductions; +I have encountered it in my own conversations with abductees. For an excellent +example in the UFO literature, I refer the reader to the case of Susan Ransted, +as detailed in Kevin D. Randle's THE UFO CASEBOOK[141]; the background of +alleged contactee Diane Tessman is also noteworthy in this regard[142]. +Intriguingly, I have located a reference in the open literature to the use, in +animal study, of nasally-implanted electrodes for the measurement of electro- +magnetic radiation effects[143]. + There are other claimed mind control victims bearing evidence of implants; +note, especially, the fascinating case of James Petit, a CIA-connected pilot +and alleged brainwashing alumnus; X-rays of his cranium have revealed abductee- +style implants -- fitting, perhaps, since his body bears abductee-style scars. +[144] Conversely, certain abductees will, if allowed a thorough and sympa- +thetic hearing, deliver testimony strongly agreeing with Koski's narrative. + + +HELICOPTERS AND DISKS + + The bizarre story of Rex Niles and his sister (not named in news accounts) +may shed interesting light on a variety of abductee cases, particularly that +of Betty and Barney Hill[145]. Niles, the high-rolling owner of a Woodland +Hills defense subcontracting firm (Rex Rep) was fingered by authorities +investigating defense industry kickbacks. He became an extraordinarily +cooperative witness in the investigation -- until he was targeted by his +enemies, who allegedly used psychoelectronics as harassment. + The following excerpt from the LOS ANGELES TIMES article on Niles is +particularly compelling: + + He [Niles] produced testimony from his sister, a Simi + Valley woman who swears that helicopters have repeatedly + circled her home. An engineer measured 250 watts of + microwaves in the atmosphere outside Niles' house and + found a RADIOACTIVE DISK UNDERNEATH THE DASH OF HIS CAR + [my italics]. + A former high school friend, Lyn Silverman, claimed + that her home computer went haywire when Niles stepped + close to it. + + No aliens in this story -- yet how similar it is to tales of alien +abduction! The low-flying helicopters, of course, are frequently reported +by abduction victims -- the Betty Andreasson Luca case provides the best- +known example[146]. The haywire electronics equipment is also frequently +encountered in putative abduction cases; I have spoken (independently) to +three women who claimed to have been able to disturb or shut off televisions +and stereos simply by walking past the devices; one woman even claimed she +had switched off her TV simply by pointing at it. + But the radioactive disc is especially intriguing. As former FBI agent +Ted Gunderson recently explained to my associate Alexander Constantine, +magnetic radioactive discs have long been used by the clandestine services as +cancer-inducing 'silent killers' -- i.e., as tools of assassination. Not only +that. The disc calls to mind one little-remembered detail of the Hill case -- +the dozen-or-so circular 'shiny spots,' each the size of a silver dollar, found +on the trunk of her car directly after the abduction. A compass needle reacted +wildly when placed near these spots. Could they have marked the location where +an electromagnetic or radioactive device, similar to that found by Niles, was +placed on the car? (Such a device might have been held to the spot magnetic- +ally, hence the circular impressions.) If so, then the disorienting EMR could +have helped induce the Hills' 'UFO sighting.' + + +THE MILITARY AND MIND CONTROL + + Some time ago, I attended hypnotic regression sessions in which the +subject -- a claimed UFO abductee -- recalled undergoing a mysterious 'brain +operation' at a veteran's hospital in California. The operation was performed +by human beings, not aliens. Interestingly, this same hospital was mentioned +in two other cases I encountered. These other claims were not made by +abductees, but by people alleged to have been victims of mind control experi- +mentation. + One of these claimants, a former Navy SEAL who undertook numerous dangerous +missions in Vietnam, favorably impressed me with the wealth of detail in his +story[147]. This individual -- I've taken to calling him 'the trained SEAL'-- +had received specialized combat training at a military base in California; he +claims that at one point during this training he was drugged, hypnotized, +possibly placed under some form of electronic control, and subjected to the +extremes of pain/pleasure operant conditioning. One peculiar detail of his +story concerns the 'reward' aspect of the conditioning: When properly +acquiescent, he was given unlimited sexual access to a woman who, the SEAL +avers, was herself the victim of brainwashing. + Unbelievable as this last claim may seem, I found it oddly resonant when I +later interviewed a prominent abductee in the Southern California area, who +bravely offered me details on a puzzling, albeit quite delicate, incident in +her past. Still an attractive woman, she recalled for me -- indeed, seemed +strangely compelled to describe -- an early love affair with a young soldier +training at a military base near her home. She cannot recall the soldier's +name. All she remembers is that one day he started LIVING AT HER FAMILY'S +HOUSE; she has no memory of how the arrangement began, and her parents have +never felt comfortable discussing the matter. Although unattracted to this +soldier, she felt compelled to become intimate with him, adopting a pliant, +obeisant attitude that was quite out of character for her. Later, the soldier +went on to covert missions in Vietnam. + Of course, a young person's psycho-sexual development is never smooth, and +the incident related above may merely have represented one peculiarly upsetting +bump in that notoriously rough road. Still, some of the details of this story +-- particularly the parents' attitude, the woman's personality shift, and her +subsequent memory lapses -- are striking, and I treat with respect the abduc- +tee's intuition that this minor enigma in her personal history could, if +properly understood, shed light on her later 'missing time' experiences. + Could the 'trained SEAL' have been right? Was there, IS there, a coterie +of hypno-programmed soldiers conducting particularly hazardous missions? And +do the programmers have at their disposal a 'ladies' auxiliary,' so to speak, +of hypnotized camp followers? + If the SEAL's story stood alone, skeptics could easily dismiss it +(provided they did not sit, as I did, face-to-face with the story's teller, +listening to all the grisly and unsettling details). But other veterans have +added their voices to this grim tale. Daniel Sheehan, of the Christic +Institute, claims that his organization has spoken to half-a-dozen individuals +with narratives similar to my SEAL informant. All had received 'processing,' +so to speak, within the context of standard military training; after pro- +gramming and specialized combat instruction by mercenaries, the recruits were +placed 'on hold,' to be used as situations arose -- and some of those +situations occurred within the United States[148]. + Walter Bowart began his own researches into mind control by placing an ad in +SOLDIER-OF-FORTUNE-style publications, asking for correspondence from veterans +who experienced inexplicable lapses in memory or strange behavior modification +techniques while serving in Vietnam; he received over 100 replies. Bowart +devoted an entire chapter to one of these respondents -- an Air Force veteran +named David, who ended his four-year tour of duty recalling only that he had +spent the time 'having fun, skin diving, laying on the beach, collecting +shells...It never dawned on me until later that I must have DONE something +while I was in the service.' (An obvious example of screen memory.) He was +also 'assigned' a girlfriend whose name he cannot now recall, despite the +length and deep intimacy of the affair[149]. The parallels to the SEAL's story +and the abductee's account should be obvious. + We even have a confession, of sorts, from a scientist who specialized in one +aspect of this sort of training. Lt. Commander Thomas ('Bob') Narut, of the +U.S. Naval Hospital at the NATO headquarters in Naples, Florida, admitted +during a lecture in Oslo that recruits in Naples underwent CLOCKWORK-ORANGE- +style behavior modification sessions. Trainees would be strapped into chairs +with their eyelids clamped open while watching films of industrial accidents +and African circumcision ceremonies -- films frequently used by psychologists +as a means of inducing stress in experimental situations. Unlike the +protagonist in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, who learned revulsion at the sight of +violence, Narut's soldiers were taught to accept and enjoy bloodshed, to view +it with equanimity. Similar techniques were used to dehumanize potential +enemies. Graduates of this program became, in Narut's words, 'hit men and +assassins,' to be placed in American embassies throughout the world. + When questioned by reporters about these claims, the American government +denied the story; Narut -- after a long incommunicado period and apparent +coercion -- later explained to journalists that he had merely spoken +theoretically. If so, why did he originally describe the behavior modification +procedure as an ongoing program?[150] + And while it may seem frivolous to return to the subject of abductions after +examining such grim data, I should remind the reader of the many abduction +accounts in which abductees recall being forced to watch certain stress- +inducing motion pictures. The aliens, it seems, have learned a few lessons +from Dr. Narut. + Narut, of course, concentrated on selective programming of individual +American soldiers; on the other side of the mind control spectrum, Defense +Department specialists have also concentrated on methods to render entire +enemy battalions 'combat ineffective.' Electromagnetic weaponry, intended to +wipe out the aggression of the enemy, is the province of DARPA, under the +direction of Dr. Jack ('Bob' Dobbs) Verona. These projects remain fairly +mysterious; we do know, however, that one operation, SLEEPING BEAUTY, employed +the services of Dr. Michael ('BoB') Persinger, a scientist who has expressed +interesting views regarding UFOs. + Persinger discovered a method of using ELF waves to induce the brain's MAST +cells to release histamine; should a battlefield commander wish to subject his +enemy to mass bouts of vomiting, Persinger's trick could do the job even +faster than a Tobe Hooper movie. The method works on animals. 'The question,' +writes mind control researcher Larry Collins, 'is how to get from point A to +point B without violating one of the most rigorous commandments of Government +ethics -- thou shalt not conduct experiments like that on human beings.'[151] + If Collins had studied the record a little more carefully, he might realize +that the government hasn't always regarded this commandment as something +graven in stone. As Milton Kline put it: + + Ethical factors involved in most research would preclude + having positive results. Those ethical factors don't always + hold with government research. THE RESEARCH WHICH HAS GIVEN + REALLY POSITIVE RESULTS HAS NOT BEEN LIMITED BY ETHICAL + CONSTRAINTS[152]. [my italics] + + +THE ULTIMATE MOTIVE FOR MIND CONTROL + + Hypnosis hard-liners of the Orne school would almost certainly dismiss the +foregoing veterans' accounts of the use of hypnosis, drugs and behavioral +conditioning on American fighting men. Why, the skeptics would ask, would +anyone attempt to create a 'Manchurian Candidate' when the military services, +using entirely conventional means, can create a 'Rambo'? There have always +been recruits for even the most hazardous duties; what need of hypnosis? + The need, in fact, is absolute. + The modern battlefield has little place for the traditional soldier. +Advanced weaponry requires an increasing level of technical sophistication, +which in turn requires a cool-headed operator. But the all-too-human +combatant -- though capable of extraordinary acts of courage under the most +stressful conditions imaginable -- does not possess inexhaustible reserves of +SANG-FROID. Eventually, breakdowns will occur. Per-capita psychiatric +casualties have increased dramatically in each successive American conflict. +As Richard Gabriel, the excellent historian of the role of psychiatry in +warfare, writes: + + Modern warfare has become so lethal and so intense that + only the already insane can endure it...Modern war requiring + continuous combat will increase the degree of fatigue on the + soldier to heretofore unknown levels. Physical fatigue -- + especially the lack of sleep -- will increase the rate of + psychiatric casualties enormously. Other factors -- high + rates of indirect fire, night fighting, lack of food, constant + stress, large numbers of casualties -- will ensure that the + number of psychiatric casualties will reach disastrous pro- + portions. And the number of casualties will overburden the + medical structure to the point of collapse. + The ability to treat psychiatric casualties will all but + disappear. There will be no safe forward areas in which to + treat soldiers debilitated by mental collapse. The technology + of modern war has made such locations functionally obsolete...[153] + + According to Gabriel, the military intends to meet this challenge by +creating 'the chemical soldier,' a designer-drugged zombie in fighting man's +uniform: + + On the battlefields of the future we will witness a true + clash of ignorant armies, armies ignorant of their own + emotions and even of the reasons for which they fight. + Soldiers on all sides will be reduced to fearless chemical + automatons who fight simply because they can do nothing + else...Once the chemical genie is out of the bottle, the + full range of human mental and physical actions become + targets for chemical control...Today it is already possible + by chemical or electrical stimulation to increase the + aggression levels of the human being by stimulating the + amygdala, a section of the brain known to control aggression + and rage. Such 'human potential engineering' is already a + partial reality and the necessary technical knowledge + increases every day[154]. + + While this passage speaks of drugs and electronics, we can safely assume +that the planners of battle would not refrain from using any other promising +technique. + Gabriel writes primarily of large-scale battle scenarios, but based on +his information, we can fairly deduce that the mind-controlled soldier will +also play a role in the surgical strike, the covert operation, the infiltration +behind enemy lines by units of the Special Forces. On such missions, United +States personnel have increasingly relied on torture as a means of interro- +gation and intimidation[155], and as such barbarism becomes standard procedure +the American fighting man of the future will need to find within himself +unprecedented reserves of brutality. Will the average recruit, culled from the +nation's suburbs and reared on traditional ideals, possess such reserves? + Vietnam proved that the soldier, despite a barrage of propaganda intended to +cloud his discernment, will sense the difference between fighting for legit- +imate defense interests and fighting to protect political hegemony. To +forestall this realization, or to render it irrelevant, military planners must +withdraw the human combatant and replace him with a new species of warrior. +The soldier of the future will not discern; he will merely do. He will not be +a butcher; he will be the butcher's KNIFE -- a tool among tools, thoughtless +and effective. + And it is my contention that to create this soldier of the future, the +controllers will need a continuing program, one designed to test each new +method and combination of methods for conquering the human mind. + One primary goal of this program must include expanding the human capacity +for stress and violence. Subjects enrolled in such experimental procedures +will experience pain, and will learn to accept the pain. Eventually, they will +learn to inflict it, without remorse or even remembrance. The nation who first +creates this new soldier will possess a decisive advantage on the 'conven- +tional' battlefield -- as will the nation which first develops a means of using +mass mind control techniques to disable entire enemy platoons. [And to placate +whole civilian populations, both those of the enemy and those at home. -jpg] +This paramount military necessity is the reason why I will never believe any +unconvincing reassurances that our nation's clandestine scientists have fore- +gone or will forego research into behavior modification. This research will +never be mere history. What's past is present, and today's covert experiment- +ation will become tomorrow's basic training. + A prototype of the future warrior may already be with us. The Navy SEAL +I interviewed spoke in horrifying detail of dismemberment without emotion, of +rape as routine, of killing without affect. And then FORGETTING THAT HE HAD +KILLED. Even years later, he could not recall the stories behind many of the +wounds on his own body. He claims that whenever he would need the services of +the veteran's hospital, doctors would re-hypnotize him shortly after his +admission, while a physician specifically cleared for such work would examine +his medical history, which was highly classified and kept under lock and key. + According to the SEAL's testimony, his memory block cracked little by +little, as a result of events too complex to recount here. Finally, years +after Vietnam, he was able to remember what he did. + Amnesia was a blessing. + +-- + . The conscious and intelligent manipula- + Jim Galasyn . .. tion of organized habits and opinions + . . . of the masses is an important element in + . . . . democratic society. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3039.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3039.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b3a6b4d8 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3039.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,647 @@ +SUBJECT: THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI FILE: UFO3039 + + + +PART 2 + + + +Date: 25 Jul 93 13:51:23 CDT +Organization: Sim's Electronic Musicians' Publishing Company + +#395 alt.alien.visitors 40k +From: jpg3196@eafs000.ca.boeing.com (James P. Galasyn) +Subject: They're not from Zeti Reticuli +Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 19:39:46 GMT +Organization: bf52b + + + IV. Abductions + + Press and public now regard abductees as tony curiosities, yet science, for +the most part, still banishes their tales to the domain of the damned, as +Charles Fort defined damnation. So too with claimed victims of mind control. +The Voice of Authority tells us that MKULTRA belongs to history; like Hasdrubal +and Hitler, it threatened once, but no more. Anyone insisting otherwise must +be silenced by glib rationalization and selective inattention. + Yet these two topics -- UFO abductions and mind control -- have more in +common than their mutual ostracization. The data overlap. If we could chart +these phenomena on a Venn diagram, we would see a surprisingly large inter- +section between the two circles of information. It is this overlap I seek to +address. + Note, however, that I can NOT address all the other interesting and +important issues raised by the UFO abduction experience. For exmaple, I have +written, admittedly rather vaguely, of nasal implants reported by abductees -- +the sort of detail which might place an account in the 'high strangeness' +category, and of course, a detail central to my thesis. But what percentage +of the percipients speak of such implants? A truly scientific analysis would +provide a figure. Unfortunately, I haven't the resources to compile a +sufficiently large abductee sample from which one could draw statistics. Nor +can I make an over-arching qualitative analysis, measuring the value of 'high +strangeness' reports against other abductee claims. All I can do is note the +available literature, and leave the reader to wonder, as I do, whether the +compilers of that literature concentrated on exceptional cases or were biased +in favor of the less fantastic abductee accounts. I have supplemented readings +of the abduction literature with my own interviews with percipients -- which, +since abductees tend to know other abductees, can give a surprisingly wide view +of the phenomenon. This view has been broadened still further by my talks and +correspondence with other members of the UFO community. + Of course, we must recognize the difference between testimony and proof. No +one can state definitively that abduction reports have a basis in objective +reality (however misperceived). Ultimately, all we have are stories. Some of +these stories may be of questionable veracity; others may be contaminated by +investigator bias; many are insufficiently detailed. No one research paper can +resolve all abduction controversies, and many necessary battles must be fought +on other fields. + Still, the testimony won't go away -- and we certainly have enough to allow +for comparisons. I maintain that an unprejudiced overview of abduction reports +in the popular press and the less-familiar material on mind control will +demonstrate a striking correlation. Once other abduction researchers have been +educated in the ways of MKULTRA (and this paper is intended as an introductory +text) they may note a similar pattern. If so, we can then begin to write a +revisionist history of the phenomenon. + The abduction enigma contains within it sub-mysteries that slide into the +mind control scenario with surprising ease, even elegance -- mysteries which +fit the E.T. hypothesis as uncomfortably as a size 10 foot fits into a size 8 +shoe. As we have seen, the MKULTRA thesis explains the reports of abductee +intracerebral implants (particularly reports involving nosebleeds), unusual +scars, 'telepathic' communication (i.e., externally induced intracerebral +voices) concurrent with or following the abduction encounter, allegations that +some abductees hear unusual sound effects (similar to those created by the +hemi-synch and cognate devices), haywire electronic devices in abductee homes, +personality shifts, 'training films,' manipulation of religious imagery, and +missing time. Needless to say, the thesis of clandestine government experi- +mentation readily accounts for abductee claims of human beings 'working' with +the aliens, and for the government harassment that plays so prominent a role in +certain abductee reports. + Let's look at some more correlations. + + +THE HILL CASE AND THE 'ADVANCED' ALIENS + + Earlier, I asked, 'Do the aliens also watch black-and-white television?' in +reference to their alleged use of old-fashioned, Terra-style brain implantation +devices. Abduction accounts abound in other examples of alien 'retro- +technology.' The most striking example can be found in the Betty and Barney +Hill incident, the details of which are too well-known to recount here[156]. +As we have already glimpsed during our discussion of the Rex Niles affair, +the Hills' 'interrupted journey' abounds in data which, taken together, permits +the construction of an alternative explanation. + At one point during the alleged UFO abduction, the 'examiners' inserted a +needle in Betty Hill's navel, telling her that this practice constituted a +test for pregnancy[157]. Some ufologists[158] rashly assume that Betty Hill's +'pregnancy test' is evidence of advanced extraterrestrial technology, since her +1961 account pre-dates the official announcement of amniocentesis, which does +indeed make use of a needle inserted into the navel. But we now have much less +invasive means of testing for pregnancy than amniocentesis. True, amniocentesis +is still sometimes used to gather information about the fetus, but the wielders +of a highly evolved technology would certainly use other methods of determining +the existence of pregnancy in the first place. + Betty Hill's testimony reminds us of certain other abduction accounts, +which contain descriptions of 'healings' surprisingly similar to the procedures +associated with still-experimental electromagnetic therapy techniques, such as +those described in Robert O. Becker's THE BODY ELECTRIC. For example, abductee +Deanna Dube described for me an abduction-related 'regeneration' of her long- +damaged heart; had she been familiar with Becker's work[159], she might have +been a bit less rapid to ascribe her healing to otherworldly influences. + Medical breakthroughs often undergo years of testing before their official +'discovery.' For some of these tests, finding volunteers present a major +obstacle. If we accept the proposition that the Hill incident originated in an +external and objective stimulus, we must then ask ourselves which scenario is +more likely: Did Betty Hill encounter human beings using a technique ten years +ahead of its time? Or did she encounter aliens (reputedly a 'billion years +ahead of us') using science from eons before THEIR time? + One must also ask why Betty Hill's aliens seemed to have no grasp of basic +human concepts (such as how we measure time) -- yet they knew enough about us +to speak English fluently and had even mastered our slang. Were these real +aliens, or humans engaging in theatricals (and occasionally muffing their +lines)? For that matter, why did Betty Hill originally recall her abductors as +humanoid, only later describing them as aliens? + The Hill case provided a particularly controversial piece of evidence -- +the celebrated 'star map' recalled by Betty Hill under hypnosis. In later +years, an Ohio schoolteacher named Marjorie Fish made an ingenious and laudable +attempt to discover a match for this map by constructing an elaborate three- +dimensional model of nearby star systems; whether she succeeded remains a +matter for keen debate[160]. For now, I prefer to avoid taking sides in this +dispute and will confine myself to insisting that pro-ET ufologists answer +(WITHOUT resorting to glib ripostes) a point first raised by Jacques Vallee: +THE MAP MAKES NO SENSE AS A NAVIGATIONAL AID. Vallee notes that, even if we +grant the Fish interpretation, the stars are not drawn to scale -- and at any +rate, alien spaceships would surely be navigated the same way we guide our own +spacecraft: via computers and telemetry[161]. The validity of the Fish +interpretation is irrelevent; the point is that ANY such chart would have NO +value to an interstellar star-farer. + Fish's work raises other controversies: Allegedly, the map points to Zeta +Reticuli as the aliens' home system and pictures Zeta Reticuli as a single +star, a view consistent with scientific opinion of the 1960s. Yet in later +years scientists discovered that Zeta Reticuli is binary[162]. Moreover, how +did our abductee manage to remember so accurately a complex chart glimpsed in +passing? Even allowing for the possibility of increased accuracy of recol- +lection under hypnotic regression, the memory feat here seems remarkable. +Consider the circumstances of the abduction: Kafka on hallucinogens couldn't +have conceived of the nightmare vision confronting Betty Hill that night -- +yet for some reason this particular arrangement of stars emerged as her most +intensely-detailed recollection of the experience. + This memory (if not confabulated during regression, a possibility we should +always weigh) is comprehensible only as an example of ARTIFICIALLY-INDUCED +HYPERMNESIA. In other words, Betty Hill was DIRECTED to store that chart +within her subconscious. The celebrated star map ought to be recognized for +what it was: a prop, a seemingly-confirmatory circumstantial detail meant to +convince her -- and perhaps US -- of the reality of her abduction. [cf. +Strieber's citation of the woman with the memory of ancient Celtic 'fairy +speak.' -jpg] + The question of motive arises. Why -- if my thesis is correct -- were +these two fairly innocuous individuals chosen for this new variation on the old +MKULTRA tricks? + The selection might, of course, have been arbitrary. Or perhaps circum- +stances now irretrievably lost to history rendered the couple a convenient +target. Interestingly, Barney Hill had become acquainted (through church +functions) with the head of Air Force intelligence at Pease Air Force Base; +perhaps this relationship first brought the Hills to the attention of members +of the intelligence community. Arguably, the Hills could have been fingered +for a wide variety of reasons; as a general rule, the clandestine services +prefer to satisy a number of itches with one scratch. + In fact, the espionage establishment had one particularly compelling reason +to focus on the Hills. Barney Hill (a black man) and his wife held important +positions in several civil rights organizations, including the NAACP[163]. +The abduction took place during the 1960s, when the NAACP and allied groups +fell victim to an increasingly paranoid series of attacks from the FBI and +other governmental agencies (under operations COINTELPRO, CHAOS, GARDEN PLOT, +etc.)[164]. At that time, infiltration of civil rights groups proved a +difficult chore; while most left-leaning groups provided easy targets for FBI +stooges, the average undercover operative would have had an exceptionally +difficult time posing as a black activist. (In 1961, the only black people on +the FBI's payroll were the servants in J. Edgar Hoover's home.) + In light of these facts, we should recall Victor Marchetti's anecdote about +the cat that the CIA had 'wired for sound.' Perhaps an ambitious covert +scientist proposed a similar experiment, in which a human being would play the +role that had once been assigned to the unfortunate feline? As Estabrooks +noted, the ultimate espionage agent would be the spy who doesn't KNOW he is a +spy. Barney Hill, a well-regarded figure with a near-genius-level IQ, was a +safe bet to obtain a leadership role in any group he joined; he would have been +remarkably well-positioned, had any outsiders wished to use his ears to over- +hear prominent black organizers in confidential discussion. + Of course, many intelligence professionals would counter this suggestion +by reminding us that eavesdroppers on the civil rights movement had plenty of +less-flamboyant methods: Bugging, 'black bag' jobs, paying for information, +etc. The point is valid. But if the technology to create a 'human bug' was +developed circa 1961 -- and there is documentation suggesting that such is +indeed the case[165] -- the intelligence agencies would surely have wanted to +test the possibilities in the field. And considering the expense of such a +test, why not conduct the experiment in such a way as to reap the maximum +benefits? Why NOT choose a Barney Hill? + + +ARMS AND THE ABDUCTEE + + Budd Hopkins told the follwing story during his lecture at the Los Angeles +'Whole Life Expo.'[166] He considers the case 'very good...lots of corrobo- +rating witnesses for parts of it.' Though not, presumably, for THIS part: + Hopkins' informant, after the by-now familiar UFO abduction, was given a +gun by the aliens. Not a Buck Rogers laser weapon -- this was something +Dirty Harry might have packed. + The abductee was also given someone to shoot. Not a little grey alien -- +another human being, tied to a chair. The 'visitors' told their armed abductee +that this captive had done 'evil on earth, and he's a bad person. You have to +kill him.' If the abductee didn't do as asked, he would never leave the ship. + The captive proclaimed his innocence, and pleaded for his life. The +abductee, caught in the middle of all this, became quite upset. (Worth noting: +he seems to have at least CONSIDERED the aliens' request to shoot someone he +had never met.) Ultimately, the abductee turned the gun on the aliens and +said, 'Nobody's going to get shot here.' + According to Hopkins, 'The aliens said 'Fine. Very good.' They took the +gun from him; the man [presumably, the captive] got up, walked away, dis- +appeared, and they went on to the next thing.' Obviously, this little drama +had been staged -- a test of some sort. + I submit that this surreal incident is incomprehensible as either an +example of alien incursion or of 'Klass-ical' confabulation. The scenario +described here EXACTLY parallels numerous experiments in the hypnotic induction +of anti-social action as revealed both in the standard hypnosis literature and +in declassified ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA documents. For example, compare Hopkins' +account to the following, in which Ludwig Mayer, a prominent German hypnosis +researcher, describes a classic experiment in the hypnotic induction of +criminal action: + + I gave a revolver to an elderly and readily suggestible + man whom I had just hypnotized. The revolver had just been + loaded by Mr. H. with a percussion cap. I explained to + [the subject], while pointing to Mr. H., that Mr. H. was a + very wicked man whom he should shoot to kill. With great + determination he took the revolver and fired a shot directly + at Mr. H. Mr. H. fell down pretending to be wounded. I + then explained to my subject that the fellow was not yet + quite dead, and that he should give him another bullet, + which he did without further ado[167]. + + Of course, if a conservative hypnosis specialist were asked to comment on +the above account, he would quickly point out that hypnotic suggestions which +work in an experimental situation would not easily succeed outside the lab- +oratory; on some level, the subject will probably sense whether or not he's +playing the game for real[168]. Similarly, a conservative abduction researcher +would, in reviewing Hopkins' material, emphasize the problems inherent in using +testimony derived during regression, where the threat of confabulation lurks. +I'll concede both arguments -- for the moment -- only to insist that they are +beside the point. The matter of primary importance, the sticking point which +neither Klass nor Hopkins can comfortably confront, is the convergence of +detail between Mayer's hypnosis experiment and the testing event related by +Hopkins' abductee. WHY ARE THESE TWO STORIES SO SIMILAR? Did the good Dr. +Mayer take pupils from Sirius?[169]. + Hopkins says he knows of other instances in which abductees found themselves +in similar crucibles. So do I. + One person I spoke to can remember (SANS hypnosis) being handed a gun inside +a ziplock baggy and receiving instructions that she will have to use this +weapon 'on a job.' Early in my interviews with her (and with no prompting from +me) she recited an apparent cue drilled into her consciousness by the 'enti- +ties' (as she calls them): 'When you see the light, do it tonight,' followed by +the command, 'Execute.' (One can only speculate as to how such commands would +be used in the field; we will discuss later the use of photovoltaic hypnotic +induction.) Though her personal feelings toward firearms are decidedly +negative, she vivdly describes periods in her 'everyday' life when she feels an +uncharacteristic, yet overpowering urge to be near a gun -- a quasi-sexual +desire to pick one up and touch the metal[170]. + She is not alone. Another has been so affected by gun fever that he became +a security guard, just to be near the things[171]. The abductees I have spoken +to connect this sudden surge of Ramboism to the UFO experience. But I suggest +that the UFO experience may be merely a cover story for another type of +training entirely. + One of the primary goals of BLUEBIRD, ARTICHOKE, and MKULTRA was to +determine whether mind control could be used to faciliate 'executive action'-- +i.e., assassination[172]. + It isn't difficult to imagine the media's reaction if a public figure were +murdered by someone acting at the behest of the 'space brothers.' Who would +dare to speak of conspiracy under such circumstances? The hidden controllers +could choose a myth structure that conform's to the abductee's personality, +then pose as higher beings, who would whisper violence into the ear of the +percipient. Using this ruse, the trick that scientists such as Ludwig Mayer +could perform in the lab might now be accomplished in the field. As +Estabrooks' associate Jack Tracktir (professor of hypnotherapy at Baylor +University) explained to John Marks, anti-social acts can be induced with +'no conscience involved' once the proper pretext has been created[173]. + + +'THEY WILL THINK IT'S FLYING SAUCERS' + + Jenny Randles contributes an anecdote from Great Britain which dovetails +nicely with this hypothesis. + In 1965, 'Margary' (a pseudonym) lived in Birmingham with her husband, who +one night told her to prepare for a 'shock and a test.' As Randles describes +what she calls a 'rogue case': + + They got into his car and drove off, although her memory + of the trip became hazy and confused and she does not know + where they went. Then she was in a room that was dimly lit + and there were people standing around a long table or flat + bed. She was out on it and seemed 'drugged' and unable to + resist. The most memorable of the men was tall and thin with + a long nose and white beard. He had thick eyebrows and + supposedly said to Margary, 'Remember the eyebrows, honey.' + A strange medical examination, using odd equipment, was + performed on her. + + Both the husband and the scientists, using (apparently) hypnotic techniques, +flooded her mind with images that, she was told, would be understood only in +the future. According to Randles, 'At one point one of the 'examiners' in the +room said to Margary in a tone that made it seem as if he were amused, 'THEY +WILL THINK IT'S FLYING SAUCERS.' The husband also revealed that he had a +second identity. After the abduction, this husband (am I going too far to +assume his employment with MI6 or some cognate agency?) left, never to be seen +again[174]. Margary did not recall the abduction until 1978. + This affair can only baffle a researcher who insists on fitting all +abduction accounts into the ET hypothesis; once we free ourselves from that +set of assumptions, explanations come easily. I interpret this incident as a +case in which the controllers applied the flying saucer cover story sloppily, +or to an insufficiently receptive subject. If my thesis is correct, the UFO +'hypnotic hoax' technique would still have been fairly new in 1965, particular- +ly outside the United States; perhaps the manipulators hadn't yet got the hang +of it. The odd comment about the scientist's eyebrows may refer to an item of +disguise donned for the occasion. The unscrupulous hypnotist, unsure about his +ability to induce an impenetrable amnesia -- and mindful of the price paid by +his forerunners in mesmeric criminality[175] -- would understandably want to +hedge his bets; by indulging in the British penchant for theatrics, he could +further protect his anonymity. + A similar incident was brought to my attention by researcher Robert Durant. +The relevant excerpt of his letter follows: + + Now I want to turn to a case that I have been investigating + for several months. The subject is an abductee. Standard + abduction scenario. Twice regressed under hypnosis, the first + time by a well-known abduction researcher, the second time by + a psychologist with parapsychology connections. + In the course of many hours of listening to the subject, I + discovered that she has had close personal contact over a long + period of time with several individuals who have federal + intelligence connections. She was hypnotized many years ago + as part of a TV program devoted to hypnosis. Her abductions + began shortly after she attended several long sessions at a + laboratory where, ostensibly, she was being tested for ESP + abilities. Two other people who were 'tested' at this same + laboratory have also had abductions. All three were told by + the lab to join a local UFO group. During her abductions, the + principal alien spoke to the subject in the English language + in a normal manner, not via telepathy. She recognized the + voice, which was at one time that of her very close friend of + yesteryear who was then and is now employed by the CIA. The + other voice was that of an individual who works in Washington, + has what I will call very strong federal connections as well + as a finger in every ufological pie, and who just happened to + bump into her at the aforementioned laboratory. He also + anticipated, in the course of telephone conversations, her + abductions. When the subject confronted him about this and + the voice, he claimed to be psychic. (!)[176] + + The 'ESP' connection is suggestive; the MKULTRA documents betray an +astonishing interest on the part of the intelligence agencies in matters +parapsychological. + Some researchers would object that examples such as this are rare; most +abductions contain no such overt indications of intelligence involvement. +But have investigators looked for them? As mentioned in the introduction, +a false dichotomy limits much ufological thought; as long as the abduction +argument swings between the ET hypothesis and purely psychological theories, +researchers will not recognize the relevance of certain key items of back- +ground data. + + +GLIMPSES OF THE CONTROLLERS + + In an interview with me, a northern-California abducteee -- call him 'Peter' +-- reported an experience which was conducted NOT by a small grey alien, but by +a human being. The percipient called this man a 'doctor.' He gave a descrip- +tion of this individual, and even provided a drawing. + Some time after I gathered this information, a southern-California abductee +told me her story -- which included a description of this very same 'doctor.' +The physical details were so strikingly similar as to erase coincidence. This +woman is a leading member of a Los Angeles-based UFO group; three other women +in this group report abduction encounters with the same individual[177]. + Perhaps those three women were fantasists, attaching themselves to another's +narrative. But my northern informant never met these people. Why did he +describe the same 'doctor'? + One of the abductees I have dealt with insisted, under hypnosis, that her +abduction experience brought her to a certain house in the Los Angeles area. +She was able to provide directions to the house, even though she had no +conscious memory of ever being there. I later learned that this house is +indeed occupied by a scientist who formerly (and perhaps currently) conducted +clandestine research on mind control technology. + This same abductee described a clandestine brain operation of some sort she +underwent in childhood. The neurosurgeon was a human being, not an alien. +She even recalled the name. (Note: This is not the same individual referred to +above.) When I heard the name, it meant nothing to me -- but later I learned +that there really was a scientist of that name who specialzed in electrode +implant research. + Licia Davidson is a thoughtful and articulate abductee, whose fascinating +story closely parallels many found in the abductee literature -- except for one +unusual detail. In an interview with me, described an unsettling recollection +of a human being, dressed normally, holding a black BoX with a protruding +antenna. This odd snippet of memory did NOT coincide with the general thrust +of her abduction narrative. Could this remembrance represent an all-too-brief +segment of accurately-perceived reality interrupting her hypnotically-induced +'screen memory'? Peter clearly recalls seeing a similar BoX during his +abduction. + Interestingly, Licia resides in the Los Angeles suburb of Tujunga Canyon, a +prominent spot on the abduction map; Many of the abductees I have spoken to +first had unusual experiences while living in this area. Near Tujunga Canyon, +in Mt. Pacifico, is a hidden former Nike missile base; more than one abductee +has described odd, seemingly inexplicable military activity around this +location[178]. The reader will recall the connection of Nike missile bases to +the disturbing story of Dr. L. Jolyon ('BoB') West, a veteran of MKULTRA. + + +CULTS + + Some abductees I have spoken to have been directed to join certain +religious/philosophical sects. These cults often bear close examination. + The leaders of these groups tend to be 'ex'-CIA operatives, or Special +Forces veterans. They are often linked through personal relations, even +though they espouse widely varying traditions. I have heard unsettling +reports that the leaders of some of these groups have used hypnosis, drugs, +or 'mind machines' on their charges. Members of these cults have reported +periods of missing time during ceremonies or 'study periods.' + I strongly urge abduction researchers to examine closely any small 'occult' +groups an abductee might join. For example, one familiar leader of the UFO +fringe -- a man well-known for his espousal of the doctrine of 'love and light' +-- is Virgil Armstrong, a close personal friend of General John Singlaub, the +notorious Iran-Contra player, who recently headed the neo-fascist World Anti- +Communist League. Armstrong, who also happens to be an ex-Green Beret and +former CIA operative, figured into my inquiry in an interesting fashion: An +abductee of my acquaintance was told -- by her 'entities,' naturally -- to seek +out this UFO spokesman and join his 'sky-watch' activities, which, my source +alleges, included a mass channelling session intended to send debilitating +'negative' vibrations to Constantine Chernenko, then the leader of the Soviet +Union. Of course, intracerebral voices may have a purely psychological origin, +so Armstrong can hardly be held to task for the abductee's original 'direct- +ive.'[179] Still, his past associations with military intelligence inevitably +bring disturbing possibilities to mind. + Even more ominous than possible ties between UFO cults and the intelligence +community are the cults' links with the shadowy I AM group, founded by Guy +Ballard in the 1930s[180]. According to researcher David Stupple, 'If you look +at the contactee groups today, you'll see that most of the stable, larger ones +are actually neo-I AM groups, with some sort of tie to Ballard's organization.' +[181] This cult, therefore, bears investigation. + Guy Ballard's 'Mighty I AM Religious Activity,' grew, in large part, out of +William Dudley Pelly's Silver Shirts, an American NAZI organization[182]. +Although Ballard himself never openly proclaimed NAZI affiliation, his movement +was tinged with an extremely right-wing political philosophy, and in secret +meetings he 'decreed' the death of President Franklin Roosevelt[183]. The I AM +philosophy derived from Theosophy, and in this author's estimation bears a +more-than-cursory resemblance to the Theosophically-based teachings that +informed the proto-NAZI German occult lodges[184]. + After the war, Pelley (who had been imprisoned for sedition during the +hostilities) headed an occult-oriented organization call Soulcraft, based in +Noblesville, Indiana. Another Soulcraft employee was the controversial +contactee George Hunt Williamson (real name: Michel d'Obrenovic), who co- +authored UFOs CONFIDENTIAL with John McCoy, a proponent of the theory that a +Jewish banking conspiracy was preventing disclosure of the solution to the UFO +mystery[185]. Later, Williamson founded the I AM-oriented Brotherhood of the +Seven Rays in Peru[186]. Another famed contactee, George Van Tassel, was +associated with Pelley and with the notoriously anti-Semitic Reverend Wesley +Swift (founder of the group which metamorphosed into the Aryan nations).[187] + The most visible offspring of I AM is Elizabeth Clare Prophet's Church +Universal and Triumphant, a group best-known for its massive arms caches in +underground bunkers. CUT was recently exposed in COVERT ACTION INFORMATION +BULLETIN as a conduit of CIA funds[188], and according to researcher John +Judge, has ties to organizations allied to the World Anti-Communist League[189] +Prophet is becoming involved in abduction research and has sponsored present- +ations by Budd Hopkins and other prominent investigators. In his book THE +ARMSTRONG REPORT: ETs AND UFOs: THEY NEED US, WE DON'T NEED THEM[sic][190], +Virgil Armstrong directs troubled abductees toward Prophet's group. (Perhaps +not insignificantly, he also suggests that abductees plagued by implants +alleviate their problem by turning to 'the I AM force' within.[191]) + Another UFO channeller, Frederick Von Mierers, has promulgated both a cult +with a strong I AM orientation[192] and an apparent con-game involving over- +appraised gemstones. Mierers is an anti-Semite who contends that the Holocaust +never happened and that the Jews control the world's wealth. + UFORUM is a flying saucer organization popular with Los Angeles-area +abductees; its founder is Penny Harper, a member of a radical Scientology +breakaway group which connects the teachings of L. Ron ('Bob') Hubbard with +pronouncements against 'The Illuminati' (a mythical secret society) and other +BETES NOIR familiar from right-wing conspiracy literature. Harper directs +members of her group to read THE SPOTLIGHT, an extremist tabloid (published by +Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby) which denies the reality of the Holocaust and +posits a 'Zionist' scheme to control the world[193]. + More than one unwary abductee has fallen in with groups such as those listed +above. It isn't difficult to imagine how some of these questionable groups +might mold an abductee's recollection of his experience -- and perhaps help +direct his future actions. + Some modern abductees, with otherwise-strong claims, claim encounters with +blond, 'Nordic' aliens reminiscent of the early contactee era. Surely, the +'Nordic' appearance of these aliens sprang from the dubious spiritual tradition +of Van Tassell, Ballard, Pelley, McCoy, etc. Why, then, are some modern +abductees seeing these very same other-worldly UEBERMENSCHEN? + One abductee of my acquaintance claims to have had beneficial experiences +with these 'blond' aliens -- who, he believes, came originally from the +Pleiades. Interestingly, in the late 1960s, the psychopathically anti-Semitic +Rev. Wesley Swift predicted this odd twist in the abduction tale. In a +broadcast 'sermon,' he spoke at length about UFOs, claiming that there were +'good' aliens and 'bad' aliens. The good ones, he insisted, were tall, blond +Aryans -- WHO HAILED FROM THE PLEIADES. He made this pronouncement long before +the current trends in abduction lore. + Could some of the abductions be conducted by an extreme right-wing element +within the national security establishment? Disagreeable as the possibility +seems, we should note that the 'lunatic right' is represented in all other +walks of life; certainly hard-rightists have taken positions within the +military-intelligence complex as well. + + + +GROUNDS FOR FURTHER RESEARCH + + John Keel's ground-breaking OPERATION TROJAN HORSE, written in an era when +abductees still came under the category of 'contactees,' includes the following +intriguing data, gleaned from Keel'a extensive field work: + + Contactees often find themselves suddenly miles from home + without knowing how they got there. They either have induced + amnesia, wiping out all memory of the trip, or they were taken + over by some means and made the trip in a blacked-out state. + Should they encounter a friend on the way, the friend would + probably note that their eyes seemed glassy and their behavior + seemed peculiar. But if the friend spoke to them, he might + receive a curt reply. + In the language of the contactees this process is called + being used...I have known silent contactees to disappear from + their homes for long periods, and when they returned, they + had little or no recollection of where they had been. One + girl sent me a postcard from the Bahama Islands -- which + surprised me because I knew she was very poor. When she + returned, she told me that she had only one memory of the + trip. She said she remembered getting off a jet at an air- + port -- she souldn't recall getting on the jet or making the + trip -- and there 'Indians' met her and took her baggage... + The next thing she knew she was back home again[194]. + + Puzzling indeed -- unless one has read THE CONTROL OF CANDY JONES, which +speaks of Candy's 'blacked out' periods, during which she travelled to Taiwan +as a CIA courier, adopting her second personality. The mind control explana- +tion perfectly solves all the mysteries in the above excerpt -- save, perhaps, +the odd remark about 'Indians.' + Hickson and Mendez' UFO CONTACT AT PASCAGOULA contains the interesting +information that Charles Hickson awakes at night feeling that he is on the +verge of re-awakening some terribly important memory connected with his +encounter -- yet ostensibly he can account for every moment of his adventure. + Hickson also received a letter from an apparent abductee who claims that +the grey aliens are actually automatons of some sort -- perhaps an unconscious +recognition of the unreality of the hypnotically-induced 'cover story.'[195] +In this light, the film version of COMMUNION -- whose screenplay was written +by Whitley Strieber -- takes on a new interest: The abduction sequences contain +inexplicable images indicating that the 'greys' are really props, or masks. + COMMUNION and TRANSFORMATION contain passages detailing what seems to be a +hazily-recalled Candy-Jones-style espionage adventure, in which Strieber was +shanghaied by a 'coach' and a 'nurse' (both human beings) who apparently +drugged him[196]. Recall the example of Keel's informants. Moreover, +TRANSFORMATION contains lengthy descriptions of alien beings working in +apparent collusion with human beings. + Abductee Christa Tilton also recalls both human beings and aliens playing +a part in her experience. Ever since her abduction, she claims, she has been +'shadowed' by a mysterious federal agent she calls John Wallis[197]. Christa's +husband, Tom Adams, has confirmed Wallis' existence[198]. + In his REPORT ON COMMUNION, Ed Conroy -- who seems to have become a +participant in, and not merely an observer of, the phenomenon -- describes +harassment by helicopters, which as we have already noted, seems to be quite +a common occurrence in abductee situations[199]. Researchers blithely assume +that these incidents represent governmental attempts to spy on UFO percipients. +But this assertion is ridiculous. Helicopters are extremely expensive to +operate, and the engines of espionage have perfected numerous alternative +methods to gather information. After all, we now have a fairly extensive +bibliography of FBI, CIA, and military efforts to spy on numerous movements +favoring domestic social change. Why have no veterans of CHAOS or COINTELPRO +(either victim or victimizer) spoken of helicopters? Obviously the choppers +serve some other purpose beyond mere surveillance. One possibility might be +the propagation of electromagnetic waves which might affect the perceptions/ +behaviors of an implanted individual. (Indeed, I have heard rumors of heli- +copters being used in electronic 'crowd control' operations in Vietnam and +elsewhere; alas, the information is far from hard.) + Contactee Eldon Kerfoot has written of his suspicions that human mani- +pulators, not aliens, may be the ultimate puppeteers engineering his +experiences. He describes a sudden compulsion to kill a fellow veteran of +the Korean conflict -- a man Kerfoot had no logical reason to distrust or +dislike, yet whom he 'sensed' to have been a traitor to his country. For- +tunately, the assassination never materialized[200]. But the situation exactly +parallels incidents described in released ARTICHOKE documents concerning the +remote hypnotic induction of anti-social behavior. + One last speculation: + Renato Vesco's INTERCEPT BUT DON'T SHOOT[201] outlines a fascinating +scenario for the 'secret weapon' hypothesis of UFOs. Vesco points out that +if these devices are one day to be used in a superpower conflict [or in +suppression of civilian revolution, against, say, S&L taxation -jpg], the +attacking power would be well-served by the myth of the UFO as an extra- +terrestrial craft, for the besieged nation would not know the true nature of +its opponent. Perhaps, then, one purpose of the UFO abductions is to engender +and maintain the legend of the little grey aliens. For the hidden manipula- +tors, the abductions could be, in and of themselves, a propaganda coup. + + +FINAL THOUGHTS + + I do not insist dogmatically on the scenario that I have outlined. I do not +wish to dissuade abduction researchers from exploring other avenues -- indeed, +I strongly encourage such work to continue. Nor can I easily account for some +aspects of the abduction narratives -- for example, any suggestions I could +offer concerning the reports of genetic experimentation would be extremely +speculative. + But I DO insist on a fair hearing of this hypothesis. Criticism is +encouraged; that which does not destroy my thesis will make it stronger. I ask +only that my critics refrain from intellectual laziness; mere differences in +world-view do not constitute a valid attack. God is found in the details. + I recognize the dangers inherent in making this thesis public. New and +distressing abductee confabulations may result. I would prefer that the +audience for this paper be restricted to abduction RESEARCHERS, not victims, +who might be unduly influenced. However, in a society that prides itself on +ostensibly free press, such restrictions are unthinkable. Therefore, I can +only beg any abduction victims who might read this paper to attempt a super- +human objectivity. The thesis I have outlined is promising, and (should +trepanation ever provide us with an example of an actual abductee implant) +susceptible of proof. But mine is not the only hypothesis. The abductee's +unrewarding task is to report what he or she has experienced as truthfully as +possible, untainted by outside speculation. + Whether or not future investigation proves UFO abductions to be a product +of mind control experimentation, I feel that this paper has, at least, +provided evidence of a serious danger facing those who hold fast to the ideals +of individual freedom. We cannot long ignore this menace. + A spectre haunts the democratic nations -- the spectre of TECHNOFASCISM. +All the powers of the espionage empire and the scientific establishment have +entered into an unholy alliance to evoke this spectre: Psychiatrist and spy, +Dulles and Delgado, microwave specialists and clandestine operators. + A mind is a terrible thing to waste -- and a worse thing to commandeer. + + + +-- + . The conscious and intelligent manipula- + Jim Galasyn . .. tion of organized habits and opinions + . . . of the masses is an important element in + . . . . democratic society. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3040.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3040.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e19d8373 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3040.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,830 @@ +SUBJECT: THEY'RE NOT FROM ZETI RETICULI FILE: UFO3040 + + + +PART 3 + + + +Date: 25 Jul 93 13:52:13 CDT +Organization: Sim's Electronic Musicians' Publishing Company + +#396 alt.alien.visitors 48k +From: jpg3196@eafs000.ca.boeing.com (James P. Galasyn) +Subject: They're not from Zeti Reticuli +Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 19:45:53 GMT +Organization: bf52b + + + NOTES + + 1. Budd Hopkins, MISSING TIME (New York: Richard Marek Publishers, 1981) +and INTRUDERS (New York: Random House, 1987). + 2. Whitley Strieber, COMMUNION (New York: Beech Tree Books, 1987). + 3. Cannon, 'Psychiatric Abuse of UFO Witness,' UFO magazine, vol. 3, +no. 5 (December, 1988) + 4. Philip Klass, UFO ABDUCTIONS: A DANGEROUS GAME (Buffalo: Prometheus +Books, 1988). Klass makes some sharp observations, which are undercut by his +refusal to interview abductees directly. The work has no footnotes and +depends heavily on the work of Dr. Martin 'Bob' Orne -- of whom more anon. + 5. See bibliography. + 6. New York: Bantam Books, 1979. + 7. See generally PROJECT MKULTRA, THE CIA'S PROGRAM OF RESEARCH IN +BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, joint hearing before the Select Committee on Health and +Scientific Research of the Committee on Human Resources, Unites States Senate +(Washington: Government Printing Office, 1977). + 8. Robert Eringer, 'Secret Agent Man,' ROLLING STONE, 1985. + 9. John Marks interview with Victor Marchetti (Marks files, available at +the National Security Archives, Washington, D.C.). + 10. In an interview with John Marks, hypnosis expert Milton Kline, a +veteran of clandestine experimentation in this field, averred that his work +for the government continued. Since the interview took place in 1977, years +after the CIA allegedly halted mind control research, we must conclude either +that the CIA lied, or that another agency continued the work. In another +interview with Marks, former Air Force-CIA liaison L. Fletcher Prouty con- +firmed that the Department of Defense ran studies either in conjunction with +or parallel to those operated by the CIA. (Marks files.) + 11. Estabrooks, HYPNOSIS (New York: E.P. Dutton & Co., Inc., 1957 +[revised edition]), 13-14. + 12. A copy of this letter can be found in the Marks files. + 13. Estabrooks attracted an eclectic group of friends, including J. +Edgar Hoover and Alan Watts. + 14. Interview with daughter Doreen Estabrooks, Marks files, Washington, +D.C. + 15. Martin A. Lee and Bruce Shlain, ACID DREAMS (New York: Grove Press, +1985) 3-4; Marks, THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE', 6-8 + 16. Marks, ibid. 4-6. + 17. Edward Hunter, BRAINWASHING IN RED CHINA (New York: Vanguard Press, +1951.). Hunter invented the term 'brainwashing' in a September 24, 1950 Miami +NEWS article. + 18. 'Japan's Germ Warfare Experiments,' THE GLOBE AND MAIL (Toronto), +May 19, 1982. + 19. Walter Bowart, OPERATION MIND CONTROL (New York: Dell, 1978), 191-2, +quoting Warren Commission documents. We cannot fairly derive from this state- +ment a sanguine attitude about PRESENT Soviet capabilities; in this field, +even outdated technology suffices for mischief. + 20. Marks, THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE', 60-61. A folk +entymology has it that the 'MK' of MKULTRA stands for 'Mind Kontrol.' Accord- +ing to Marks, TSS prefixed the cryptonyms of all its projects with these +initials. Note, though, that MKULTRA was preceded by a still-mysterious TSS +program called QKHILLTOP. + 21. Marks, THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE', 224-229. Seven +MKULTRA subprojects were continued, under TSS supervision, as MKSEARCH. This +project ended in 1972. CIA apologists often proclaim that 'brainwashing' +research ceased in either 1962 or 1972; these blandishments refer to the TSS +projects, not to the ORD work, which remains TERRA INCOGNITA for independent +researchers. Marks discovered that the ORD research was so voluminous that +retrieving documents via FOIA would have proven unthinkably expensive. + 22. For a description of the research into parapsychology, see Ronald +M. McRae's MIND WARS (New York: St. Martin's Press, 1984). The best book +available on a subject which awaits a truly authoritative text. + 23. Abduction researcher and hypnotherapist Miranda Park, of Lancaster, +California, reports that she has viewed such anomalies in abductee MRI scans. +See also Whitley Strieber, TRANSFORMATION (New York: Beech Tree Books, 1988) +246-247. At this writing, both Strieber and Hopkins report initially promising +results in their efforts to document the presence of these 'extras' in +abductees. + 24. Allegedly, the experiment took place in 1964. However, in WERE WE +CONTROLLED? (New Hyde Park, NY: University Books, 1967), the pseudonymous +'Lincoln Lawrence' makes an interesting argument (on page 36) that the +demonstration took place some years earlier. + 25. New York: Harper and Row, 1969. Much of Delgado's work was funded +by the Office of Naval Intelligence, a common conduit for CIA funds during the +1950s and '60s. (Gordon Thomas' JOURNEY INTO MADNESS (New York: Bantam, 1989) +misleadingly implies that CIA interest in Delgado's work began in 1972.) + 26. J.M.R. 'Bob' Delgado. 'Intracerebral Radio Stimulation and Recording +in Completely Free Patients,' PSYCHOTECHNOLOGY (Robert L. Schwitzgebel and +Ralph K. Schwitzgebel, editors; New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston, 1973): +195. + 27. David Krech, 'Controlling the Mind Controllers,' THINK 32 (July- +August), 1966. + 28. Delgado, PHYSICAL CONTROL OF THE MIND + 29. Delgado, 'Intracerebral Radio Stimulation and Recording in Completely +free patients,' 195. + 30. Note, for example, Charles Hickson's account of the Pascagoula +Incident. Charles Hickson and William Mendez, UFO CONTACT AT PASCOGOULA +(Tuscon: Wendelle C. Stevens, 1983). + 31. John Ranleigh, THE AGENCY (New York: Simon and Shuster, 1986): 208. +Marchetti casts this story in the form of an amusing anecdote: After much time +and expense, a cat was suitably trained and prepared -- only, on its first +assignment, to be run over by a taxi. Marchetti neglects to point out that +nothing stopped the Agency from getting another cat. Or from using a human +being. + 32. Of course, this suggestion raises the knotty question of whether the +abductees suffer from a form of schizophrenia, which may also be characterized +by 'voices.' I refer the reader to the work of Hopkins, Strieber, Thomas +Bullard, and others who have described the difficulties of ascribing all +abductions to psychotic states. + 33. Alan W. Scheflin and Edward M. Opton, Jr., THE MIND MANIPULATORS +(London: Paddington Press, 1978), 347. + 34. Thomas, JOURNAY INTO MADNESS, 276. + 35. James Olds, 'Hypothalamic Substrates of Reward,' PHYSIOLOGICAL +REVIEWS, 1962, 42:554; 'Emotional Centers in the Brain,' SCIENCE JOURNAL, +1967, 3 (5). + 36. Vernon Mark and Frank Ervin, VIOLENCE AND THE BRAIN (New York: +Harper and Row, 1970), chapter 12, excerpted in INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND THE +FEDERAL ROLE IN BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, prepared by the Staff of the Subcom- +mittee on Constitutional Rights of the Committee of the Judiciary, United +States Senate (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1974). + 37. John Lilly, THE SCIENTIST (Berkeley, Ronin Publishing, 1988 [revised +edition]), 90. Monkeys allowed to stimulate themselves continually via ESB +brought themselves to orgasm once every three minutes, sixteen hours a day. +Scientific gatherings throughout the world saw motion pictures of these +experiments, which surely made spectacular cinema. + 38. Scheflin and Opton, THE MIND MANIPULATORS, 336-337. Heath even +monitored his patient's brain responses during the subject's first heterosexual +encounter. Such is the nature of the brave new world before us. + 39. Robert L. Schwitzgebel and Richard M. Bird, 'Sociotechnical Design +Factors in Remote Instrumentation with Humans in Natural Environments,' +BEHAVIOR RESEARCH METHODS AND INSTRUMENTATION, 1970, 2, 99-105. + 40. Thomas, JOURNEY INTO MADNESS, 277. In the BEHAVIOR RESEARCH METHODS +AND INSTRUMENTATION article referenced above, Schwitzgebel details how the +radio signals may be fed into a telephone via a modem and thus analyzed by a +computer anywhere in the world. + 41. Scheflin and Opton, THE MIND MANIPULATORS, 347-349. + 42. Louis Tackwood and the Citizen's Research and Investigation Commit- +tee, THE GLASS HOUSE TAPES (New York: Avon, 1973), 226. + 43. Perry London, BEHAVIOR CONTROL (New York: Harper and Row, 1969), 145 + 44. Scheflin and Opton, THE MIND MANIPULATORS, 351-353; Tackwood, THE +GLASS HOUSE TAPES, 228. + 45. 'Beepers in kids' heads could stop abductors,' Las Vegas SUN, Oct. +27, 1987. + 46. Lilly, THE SCIENTIST, 91. + 47. Marks, THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE', 151-154. + 48. Interestingly, Lilly has come out of the closet as a sort of proto- +Strieber; THE SCIENTIST recounts his close interaction with alien (though not +necessarily extraterrestrial) forces which he labels 'solid state entities.' + 49. The story of Deep Trance, an MKULTRA 'insider' who provided +invaluable information, is somewhat involved. I do not know who Trance is/was +and Marks may not know either. He contacted Trance via the writer of an +article published shortly before research on THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN +CANDIDATE' began, addressing his informant 'Dear Source whose anonymity I +respect.' I respect it too -- hence my reticence to name the aforementioned +article, which may mark a trail to Trance. The fact that I have not followed +this trail would not prevent others from doing so. [And if Trance were a +CIA disinformation source a la William Cooper, this is precisely the behavior +they would count on. -jpg] + 50. London, BEHAVIOR CONTROL, 139. + 51. See generally, UFO magazine, Vol. 4, No. 2; especially the +interesting contribution by Whitley Strieber. + 52. Lawrence, WERE WE CONTROLLED?, 36-37; Anita Gregory, 'Introduction +to Leonid L. Vasilev's EXPERIMENTS IN DISTANT INFLUENCE,' PSYCHIC WARFARE: +FACT OR FICTION (editor: John White) (Nottinghamshire: Aquarian, 1988) 34-57. + 53. Lawrence, WERE WE CONTROLLED?, 38. + 54. Bowart, OPERATION MIND CONTROL, 261-264. + 55. Ibid. 263. + 56. Lawrence, WERE WE CONTROLLED?, 52. + 57. HUMAN DRUG TESTING BY THE CIA, 202. + 58. Note especially the Supreme Court's decision in CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE +AGENCY ET Al. V. SIMS, ET AL. (No. 83-1075; decided April 16, 1986). The +egregious and dangerous majority opinion in this case held that disclosure of +the names of scientists and institutions involved in MKULTRA posed an +'unacceptable risk of revealing 'intelligence sources.' The decisions of the +[CIA] Director, who must of course be familiar with 'the whole picture,' as +judges are not, are worthy of great deference...it is conceivable that the +mere explanation of why information must be withheld can convey valuable +information to a foreign intelligence agency.' How do we square this continu- +ing need for secrecy with the CIA's protestations that MKULTRA achieved little +success, that the studies were conducted within the Nueremberg statues govern- +ing medical experiments, and that the research was made available in the open +literature? + 59. Letter, P.A. Lindstrom to Robert Naeslund, July 27, 1983; copy +available from Martti Koski, Kiilinpellontie 2, 21290 Rusko, Finland. Lind- +strom writes that he fully agrees with Lincoln Lawrence, author of WERE WE +CONTROLLED? + 60. Bowart, OPERATION MIND CONTROL, 265. I have attempted without +success to contact Dr. Lindstrom. + 61. Bowart, OPERATION MIND CONTROL, 233-249. This interview was +repinted without attribution in a bizarre compendium of UFO rumors called +THE MATRIX, compiled by 'Valdamar Valerian' (actually John Grace, allegedly +a captain working for Air Force intelligence). + 62. Robert Anton Wilson, 'Adventures with Head Hardware,' MAGICAL BLEND, +23 [of course], July 1989. + 63. Michael Hutchison, MEGA BRAIN (New York: Ballantine, 1986); Gerald +Oster, 'Auditory Beats in the Brain,' SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN, September, 1973. + 64. Marilyn Ferguson, THE BRAIN REVOLUTION (New York: Taplinger, 1973), +90. + 65. Ibid., 91-92. The presence of delta in a waking subject can +indicate pathology. + 66. Bio-Pacer promotional and price sheet, available from Lindemann +Laboratories, 3463 State Street, #264, Santa Barbara, CA 93105. + 67. Hutchison, MEGA BRAIN, 117-118. Compare Light's observations about +'the grant game' to Sid Gottlieb's protestations that nearly all 'mind con- +trol' research was openly published. + 68. Thomas Martinez and John Gunther, THE BROTHERHOOD OF MURDER (New +York: McGraw-Hill, 1988), 230. + 69. Interview, Sandy Monroe of the Los Angeles office of the Christic +Institute. + 70. See generally Paul Brodeur, THE ZAPPING OF AMERICA (Toronto, George +J. MacLeod, 1977). + 71. Until recently, the American Embassy was on a street named after the +composer. + 72. It was finally determined that the microwaves were used to receive +transmissions from bugs planted within the embassy. DARPA director George H. +Heimeier went on record stating that PANDORA was never designed to study +'microwaves as a surveillance tool.' See Anne Keeler, 'Remote Mind Control +Technology,' FULL DISCLOSURE #15. I would note that the Soviet embassy was +'bugged and waved' in Canada during the 1950s, and according to the Los +Angeles TIMES (June 5, 1989), the Soviet embassy in Britain had been similarly +affected. + 73. Ronald I. Adams R.A. Williams, BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC +RADIATION (RADIOWAVES AND MICROWAVES) EURASIAN COMMUNIST COUNTRIES, (Defense +Intelligence Agency, March 1976.) Brodeur notes that much of the work ascribed +to the Soviets in this report was actually first accomplished by scientists in +the United States. Keeler argues that this report constitutes an example of +'mirror imaging' -- i.e., parading domestic advances as a foreign threat, the +better to pry funding from a suitably-fearful Congress. + 74. Keeler, 'Remote Mind Control Technology.' + 75. R.J. MacGregor, 'A Brief Survey of Literature Relating to Influence +of Low Intensity Microwaves on Nervous Function' (Santa Monica: RAND Corpor- +ation, 1970). + 76. Keeler, 'Remote Mind Control Technology.' + 77. Larry Collins, 'Mind Control,' PLAYBOY, January 1990. + 78. Allan H. Frey, 'Behavioral Effects of Electromagnetic Energy,' +SYMPOSIUM ON BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS AND MEASUREMENTS OF RADIO FREQUENCIES/MICRO- +WAVES, DeWitt G. Hazzard, editor (U.S. Department of Health, Education and +Welfare, 1977). + 79. quoted in THE APPLICATION OF TESLA'S TECHNOLOGY IN TODAY'S WORLD +(Montreal: Lafferty, Hardwood & Partners, Ltd., 1978). + 80. Keeler, 'Remote Mind Control Technology.' + 81. L. George Lawrence, 'Electronics and Brain Control,' POPULAR +ELECTRONICS, July 1973. + 82. Susan Schiefelbein, 'The Invisible Threat,' SATURDAY REVIEW, +September 15, 1979. + 83. E. Preston, 'Studies on the Nervous System, Cardiovascular Function +and Thermoregulation,' BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF RADIO FREQUENCY AND MICROWAVE +RADIATION, edited by H.M. Assenheim (Ottawa, Canada: National Research Council +of Canada, 1979), 138-141. + 84. Robert O. Becker, THE BODY ELECTRIC (New York: William Morrow, 1985) +318-319. + 85. Ibid. + 86. Ibid., 321. + 87. See Bowart's OPERATION MIND CONTROL, page 218, for an interesting +example of this 'rationalization' process at work in the case of Sirhan +Sirhan, who was convicted for the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. In +prison, Sirhan was hypnotized by Dr. Bernard Diamond, who instructed Sirhan +to climb the bars of his cage like a monkey. He did so. After the trance +was removed, Sirhan was shown tapes of his actions; he insisted that he 'acted +like a monkey' of his own free will -- he claimed he wanted the exercise. + 88. Keeler suggests that the proposal was revealed only because +Schapitz' sensationalistic implications may have worked to his discredit -- +and therefore hide -- the REAL research. Personally, I don't accept this +argument, but I respect Keeler's instincts enough to repeat her caveat here. + 89. Margaret Cheney's TESLA: A MAN OUT OF TIME (New York: Dell, 1981), +the most reliable book in the sea of wild speculation surrounding this +extraordinary scientist, confirms Tesla's early work with the psychological +effects of electromagnetic radiation. See especially pages 101-104; note also +the afterword, in which we learn that certain government agencies have kept +important research by Tesla hidden from the general public. + 90. Noted in Lawrence, WERE WE CONTROLLED?, 29. + 91. Particularly one Thomas Bearden of Huntsville, Alabama; I have in my +possession a document written by Bearden associate Andrew Michrowski which +identifies Bearden as an intelligence agent for an undisclosed agency. + 92. Kathleen McAuliffe, 'The Mind Fields,' OMNI magazine, February 1985. + 93. May 5, 1985. + 94. I refer to an individual who later wrote a very clear-headed and +thoughtful letter to Dr. Paul Lowinger, who has graciously made his files +available to me. For now, I feel compelled to withold this person's name. + 95. Cameron became president of the American Psychiatric Association, +the Canadian Psychiatric Association, and the World Association of Psychia- +trists, He previously sat on the Nueremberg panel, helping to draw up the +statutes governing ethical medical behavior! + 96. In particular, Opton and Scheflin's overview, though excellent in +scope and detail, continually seeks reassurring interpretations of evidence +which points toward more distressing conclusions. + 97. Martin T. Orne, 'Can a hypnotized subject be compelled to carry out +otherwise unacceptable behavior?' INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF CLINICAL AND EXPERI- +MENTAL HYPNOSIS, 1972, Vol. 20, 101-117. + 98. Marks mentions, in a letter to Orne, the latter's claim to have been +an unwitting participant in subproject 84. Yet the papers released concerning +subproject 84 clearly establish the Agency's willingness to put Orne in the +know; Orne later admitted to Marks that he was made aware of his CIA sponsor- +ship (Marks, THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE', 172-173). In an +interview with Marks, Orne discounted the story of Candy Jones (which we shall +recount later) by insisting that if such an experiment had occurred 'someone +in some agency would have come to me.' Why would they come to him about a +super-secret project, unless Orne had a high security clearance and worked +extensively with intelligence agencies? Note also that Orne conducted exten- +sive studies for the Office of Naval Research from June 1, 1968 to May 31, +1971. He has also been funded by DARPA. Moreover, I consider noteworthy the +fact that Orne somehow became president of the Society for Clinical and +Experimental Hypnosis despite the fact that the organization had decided not +to have a president. (This fact was related to Marks by a prominent hypnosis +specialist in an off-the-record interview that I probably wasn't supposed to +see.) + 99. The story has been told many times. See Turner and Christian's THE +KILLING OF ROBERT F. KENNEDY, 207-208; also Peter J. Reiter, ANTISOCIAL OR +CRIMINAL ACTS AND HYPNOSIS (Springfield, Illinois: Charles C. Thomas, 1958). + 100. John G. Watkins, 'Antisocial behavior under hypnosis: Possible or +impossible?' INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL FOR CLINICAL AND EXPERIMENTAL HYPNOSIS, +1972, Vol. 20, 95-100. + 101. Milton H. Erickson, 'An experimental investigation of the possible +anti-social use of hypnosis,' PSYCHIATRY, 1939, vol. 2. Erickson argues that +if a hypnotist has convinced his subject to misperceive reality, then result- +ing actions cannot be considered 'anti-social,' for the actions would be +acceptable within the subject's internal reality construct. This argument +strikes me as semantic quibbling. [not me -jpg] + 102. See generally Flo Conway and Jim Seigelman, SNAPPING (New York: +Lippincott, 1978). + 103. Lee and Schlain, ACID DREAMS, 8-9. + 104. John Marks interview with Victor Marchetti, December 19, 1977 +(Marks files). + 105. Martin T. Orne, 'On the Mechanisms of Posthypnotic Amnesia,' THE +INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF CLINICAL AND EXPERIMENTAL HYPNOSIS, 1966, vol. 14, +121-134. Orne's work with post-hypnotic amnesia was funded by NIMH, the Air +Force Office of Scientific Research, and the Office of Naval Research. I +should like to hear what innocent explanation, if any, the Air Force has to +offer to explain their interest in post-hypnotic amnesia. ['We must not allow +a post-hypnotic-amnesia gap!' of course. -jpg] + 106. Bowart, OPERATION MIND CONTROL, 242-243. + 107. Obviously Allan Dulles. This may have been a hypnotically-induced +delusion; on the other hand, Dulles' legendary sexual rapacity makes this claim +rather less unlikely than one might first assume. [WRONG! Obviously, this +reference is to J.R. 'Bob' Dobbs, chief MC of the Church of SubGenius; the +initials A.D. refer to one of his pseudonyms, Adman Destructor. 'Bob''s +sexual rapacity is the stuff of SubLegend. -jpg] + 108. Always the best indicator of whether or not hypnosis is genuine; +I can't understand why Orne didn't use this test in the Blanchi case. + 109. Herbert Spiegel, 'Hypnosis and evidence: Help or hindrance,' ANN. +N.Y. ACAD. SCI.; 1980, 347, 73-85. + 110. See, for example, Kroger, HYPNOSIS AND BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, 21-22 + 111. See especially Klass, UFO ABDUCTIONS: A DANGEROUS GAME, 60-61. +Orne, interviewed here, makes reference to the work summarized in his article +'The use and misuse of hypnosis in court' (INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF CLINICAL +HYPNOSIS, 1979, vol. 27, 311-341.) + 112. Klass argues that ufologists, in conducting hypnotic regression +sessions, inadvertently cue their subjects. A close reading of his text +reveals that he never proves or claims that such 'cues' have taken place in +any individual instance; he simply believes that cueing MIGHT have occurred. +Had Klass been more willing to deal with abductees directly, he might have +found evidence of cause and effect; as it stands, his argument really amounts +to no more than a suggestion. For all that, I find his ideas regarding the +running of 'clean' hypnotic regression sessions potentially valuable. + 113. Marks, THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE', 34-37. + 114. Donald Bain, THE CONTROL OF CANDY JONES (Chicago, Playboy Press, +1976). + 115. The use of hypnotized couriers in warfare goes back to the 19th +century. + 116. Estabrooks, HYPNOTISM, 193-214. + 117. John Marks interview with Milton Kline, December 22, 1977 (Marks +files). In another interview, Professor Clare Young (a colleague of Esta- +brooks' at Colgate University) confirmed that Estabrooks' hypnosis work for +the government has never been published. + 118. Or could her marriage have been part of the program? 'Long John,' +as he was popularly known, was famous in UFO circles, and had provided a forum +for such early-day contactees as Howard Menger. He also knew Jackie Gleason, +a prominent (if unlikely) name in the 'crashed disc' rumor vaults. Could +Candy have been assigned to discover what Nebel knew? + 119. Marks files. John Marks did excellent work on the Candy Jones story; +he erred -- almost unforgivably -- on the side of conservatism when he refused +to include information about this incident in his book. I know the name of +the institute involved; however, since Candy saw fit to keep this aspect of +her story secret (probably for sound legal reasons), I shall follow her lead. + 120. Scheflin and Opton, THE MIND MANIPULATORS, 446-447. + 121. Interviews, Marks files. One of Marks' informants offered the +interesting speculation that Candy's torture sessions were not conducted in +the field, but in the lab -- her entire mission might have been a hypno- +programmed fantasy. + 122. The information about Candy's CIA files stems from a telephone +interview with Candy Jones. A problem looms here: CIA cover stories unravel +like the skin of an onion; once you remove the outer layer, the next lie is +revealed. [For this reason, I don't think this paper 'reveals' the whole +truth; that, I suspect, is far worse. -jpg] In the case of Candy Jones, the +substrata of buncombe involves allegations that she WILLINGLY complied with +the CIA, and used Jensen's hypnosis experiments as a rationalization for her +compliance. Such is the explanation offered by certain of Marks' informants; +alas, Opton and Scheflin seem to have bought this line. Anyone familiar with +the vile acts of self-degradation to which Candy's programmers subjected her +will laugh this story out of court. No one, short of a severely psychotic +masochist, would willingly undergo what she went through. + 123. Marks files. + 124. William Kroger, CLINICAL AND EXPERIMENTAL HYPNOSIS (Philadelphia: +Lippincott, 1963), 299. + 125. Recently, ufologist Jim Moseley, an acquaintance of Candy's, has +claimed that an unidentified source on Nebel's 'inner circle' once, off-the- +record, pronounced Candy's story 'a crock.' This assertion deserves careful +and respectful consideration. Still, Moseley won't identify his source, and +we have no way of telling if this insider spoke from instinct or certain +knowledge, or indeed, what he really meant. Did he feel Candy was fantasizing +or fibbing? If the former, why did her hallucinations match details of +MKULTRA released only after publication of her book? If the latter, how are +we to explain the many hypnotic regression tapes, at least some of which were +made available to outside investigators? (Fairly elaborate, for a hoax.) In +any case, how could Candy have known the fact (confirmed by Marks' associates) +that Kroger taught 'Jensen' at a certain West-coast institute? Why, if the +story was 'a crock,' would Candy risk libel suits by naming -- to associates +and investigators, if not to the general public -- real-life hypnotherapists? +All in all, I would suggest that Moseley's 'insider' was speaking glibly, and +did not know the true facts. [Or was speaking disinformationally. -jpg] + 126. Philadelphia, Lippincott, 1976. + 127. Ibid., 415. + 128. Similar paranoid outbreaks led to the dissolution of Dr. Richard +Neal's UFO abductee group in Los Angeles, according to a phone interview I had +with Dr. Neal. + 129. Affidavit of Dr. Simpson-Kallas in the case of Sirhan-Sirhan, 1973; +see Bowart, OPERATION MIND CONTROL, 225. + 130. All true MPs have experienced some form of abuse or trauma, psycho- +logical or physical, during childhood. + 131. One was ritually abused in an occult setting. If I were a 'spy- +chiatrist' scouting potential fodder for mind control experiments, I would +seek out abused children from military families. (A military background +would ensure that the 'right' doctor gets access to the child.) Abduction +researchers should look for such a pattern. + 132. I refer here to the vast upsurge in alien abductions which took +place that year; see generally Kevin Randle, THE OCTOBER SCENARIO (Middle +Coast, 1988). Of course, abductions (or, according to my hypothesis, dis- +guised mind control operations) occurred previous to this year. + 133. John Marks interview with Milton Kline, December 22, 1977 (Marks +files). + 134. Brenda Butler ET AL., SKY CRASH, expanded edition (London: Grafton +Books, 1986), 305-321, 354-355. + 135. Telephone interview with Nancy Wright. + 136. Telephone interview with Miranda Parks. + 137. William Moore, 'UFOs and the U.S. Government,' FOCUS, vol. 4, +June 30, 1989. Moore's role in the affair strikes me as highly questionable, +even scandalous -- although at least here we have one instance of direct and +irrefutable 'insider' testimony of government harassment. + 138. Some have also raised questions about his psychiatric treatment +of Oswald assassin Jack Ruby. I find it odd that a CIA mind control veteran +-- who did NOT reside or practice in Dallas -- should have been assigned to the +Ruby case. + 139. Samiel Chavkin, THE MIND STEALERS (New York: Houghton Mifflin, +1978), 96-107. + 140. Raymond Fowler, THE ANDREASSON AFFAIR (New York: Prentice Hall, +1979). + 141. New York: Warner Books, 1989; 198-202. + 142. Ruth Montgomery, ALIENS AMONG US (Ballantine, 1985), 49. My article +'Psychiatric Abuse of UFO Witness,' referred to earlier, also documents this +phenomenon. + 143. Chung-Kwang Chou and Arthur W. Guy, 'Quantization of Microwave +Biological Effects,' SYMPOSIUM OF BIOLOGICAL EFFECTS AND MEASUREMENT OF RADIO +FREQUENCY/MICROWAVES, edited by Dewitt G. Hazzard (U.S. Department of Health, +Education and Welfare, 1977). + 144. MIAMI HERALD, May 28, 1984 and June 6, 1984; NATIONAL EXAMINER, +vol. 22, no. 18, April 30, 1985. Although the EXAMINER is a supermarket +tabloid, and therefore a questionable source, this periodical has rendered +researchers the service of printing the X-ray of Petit's brain, showing the +implant. [Ever heard of airbrushing? -jpg] + 145. Los Angeles TIMES, March 28, 1988. + 146. Raymond Fowler, THE ANDREASSON AFFAIR, PHASE TWO (Reward, 1982). +This book includes rare photographs of the unmarked helicopters which have +plagued this abduction victim and her family. + 147. A mutual friend described for me an incident in which the former +SEAL, mistakenly perceiving a threat, almost instantly felled, and nearly +killed, a man twice his size. Whatever the truth of my informant's other +statements, he certainly has received advanced combat training. + 148. Fenton Bresler, WHO KILLED JOHN LENNON? (New York: St. Martin's +Press, 1989), 45-46. + 149. Bowart, OPERATION MIND CONTROL, 27-42. + 150. Denise Winn, THE MANIPULATED MIND (London, Octagon Press, 1983), +72-73; Bresler, WHO KILLED JOHN LENNON?, 41; see generally: Peter Watson, +WAR ON THE MIND (London: Hutchison, 1978) (Watson broke the story on Narut +for the London TIMES). + 151. Larry Collins, 'Mind Control,' PLAYBOY, January 1990. + 152. John Marks interview with Milton Kline, December 22, 1977 (Marks +files). + 153. Richard A. Gabriel, NO MORE HEROES (New York: Hill and Wang, 1987), +124. + 154. Ibid., 150-151. + 155. See generally: Mark Lane, CONVERSATIONS WITH AMERICANS (Simon and +Shuster, 1970); A.J. Langguth, HIDDEN TERRORS (New York: Pantheon, 1978). + 156. John G. Fuller, THE INTERRUPTED JOURNEY (New York: Dell, 1966). + 157. This detail plays a part in other abductions -- for example, it +crops up in the Betty Andreasson Luca case. See Raymond Fowler, THE ANDREAS- +SON AFFAIR (New York: Bantam, 1980), 50-51. + 158. Stanton Friedman, for example; the reader is referred to his 1988 +Whole Life Expo lecture, 'UFOs: A Cosmic Watergate.' + 159. THE BODY ELECTRIC, 196-202. + 160. The Fish map has received wide discussion; for a representative +sampling, the reader is directed to the aforementioned Friedman lecture (note +158); Terence Dickenson, 'The Zeti Reticuli Incident,' ASTRONOMY, December, +1974; Klass, UFO ABDUCTIONS: A DANGEROUS GAME, 20-23; and John Rimmer, THE +EVIDENCE FOR ALIEN ABDUCTIONS (Weillingborough: Aquarian, 1984), 88-92. +Incidentally, Klass has proposed to Friedman a test regarding the ability to +recall such material accurately under hypnotic regression; Friedman, for +reasons best known to himself, declined the offer to participate. + 161. Jacques Vallee, DIMENSIONS (Chicago: Contemporary, 1988), 266. + 162. See Rimmer, THE EVIDENCE FOR ALIEN ABDUCTIONS, 91-92. None of this +is meant to denigrate Marjorie Fish, whose work has received universal praise. + 163. Fuller, THE INTERRUPTED JOURNEY, 18-19. + 164. Athan G. Theoharis and John Stuart Cox, THE BOSS: J. EDGAR HOOVER +AND THE GREAT AMERICAN INQUISITION (Philadelphia: Temple University Press, +1978), 325; Chip Berlet, 'The Hunt for the Red Menace,' COVERT ACTION INFORM- +ATION BULLETIN, no. 31 (winter, 1989); J. Edgar Hoover, COINTELPRO (memo), +March 4, 1968. + 165. For example, Delgado's work pre-dates the Hill incident. Moreover, +one of the few pages released on MKULTRA subproject 119 concerns 'a critical +review of the literature and scientific developments related to the recording, +analysis and interpretation of bioelectric signals from the human organism, +and activation of human behavior by remote means.' The review took place in +1960-61. Presumably, the CIA wanted to DO something with the information so +derived. + 166. 'UFO Abductions Workshop,' Whole Life Expo, March, 1988. + 167. Ludwig Mayer, DIE TECHNIC DER HYPNOSE (Munich: J.H. Lehmanns +Verlag, 1953), 225; quoted in: Heinz E. Hammerschlag (translation: John Cohen) +HYPNOTISM AND CRIME (Hollywood: Wilshire Book Company, 1957), 24-25. + 168. Numerous articles discuss this possibility; see, for example, +William C. Coe ET AL. 'An Approach Toward Isolating Factors that Influence +Antisocial Conduct in Hypnosis,' THE INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF CLINICAL AND +EXPERIMENTAL HYPNOSIS, 1972, vol XX, no. 2, 118-131, as well as other +reports in that issue. The difference between the laboratory and the 'field' +settings may account for the success of Mayer's experiment and the apparent +failure of the 'aliens.' [Or perhaps Hopkins' informant REALIZED he was in +Miniluv and his autonomy was on the line; he reacted against this standard +Gestapo procedure as best he could: by turning the gun on O'Brien. -jpg] + 169. For a description of a quite similar experiment conducted under +CIA auspices in 1954, see 'CIA able to control minds by hypnosis, data shows,' +THE WASHINGTON POST, February 19, 1978. + 170. Abductee interview, 'Veronica.' The reader will, I hope, forgive +my use of a pseudonym here. For the most part, I hope to deal in this work +with published cases. Suffice it to say, Veronica's testimony proved +fascinating, troubling, convoluted, problematical; in spite of all the +questions raised by this case, I still believe it to have substantial bearing +on my thesis. The reader will forgive me for severing relations with this +abductee before completing an investigation; she keeps a mini-armory next to +her bed. + 171. Abductee interview, 'Veronica,' At one point, she ran an informal +abductee/contactee group; as a result, she was able to describe many other +cases to me. [Pseudomemories programmed into her? -jpg] + 172. One ARTICHOKE document explicitly details a failed attempt to use +hypnosis to induce the assassination of a foreign leader. The document is +undated; the experiment took place January 8-January 15, 1954. Document +reproduced in CIA PAPERS, vol. 1 (Ann Arbor, MI: Capitol Information Asso- +ciates, 1986),39-41. + 173. John Marks interview of Prof. Jack Tracktir (Marks files). + 174. Jenny Randles, ABDUCTIONS (London: Robert Hale, 1988), 52-53. + 175. As in, for example, the Palle Hardrup affair. + 176. Private correspondence, Robert Durant to the author. + 177. Abductee interview, 'Polly.' I won't give the facial details here; +suffice it to say that this abductor, like Margary's (noted earlier), has +something of the smell of greasepaint about him. + 178. The base is mantioned in Ann Druffel's and D. Scott Rogo's THE +TUJUNGA CANYON CONTACTS (New York: Signet, 1989) [expanded edition], 157. + 179. On the other hand, Armstrong asks us to accept his own channelled +material, so he would have an awkward time should he choose to challenge the +'psychic impressions' of others. + 180. Jacques Vallee, MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION (Berkeley: And/Or Press, +1979), 192-193. + 181. Curtis G. Fuller (editor), PROCEEDINGS OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL +UFO CONGRESS (New York: Warner Books, 1980), 307. + 182. For information of Pelley, see John Roy Carlson, UNDER COVER (New +York: Dutton, 1943). + 183. Gerald B. Bryan, PSYCHIC DICTATORSHIP IN AMERICA (Los Angeles: +Truth Research, 1940). An essential book-length expose of Ballardism. One +of Bryan's sources alleges that Ballard, before founding the I AM group, may +have practiced some variety of black magic. + 184. The student should carefully compare the I AM dogma with the +available information on pre-Third Reich occultism; the best sources are James +Webb's masterful analyses, THE OCCULT ESTABLISHMENT and THE OCCULT UNDERGROUND +(La Salle, Illinois: Open Court Publishing, 1976). + 185. Vallee, MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION, 192-194. + 186. Even a cursory examination of Williamson's SECRET OF THE ANDES +(London: Neville Superman, 1961), written under the pseudonym Brother Philip, +will reveal the I AM connections. + 187. Personal sources. Van Tassell's 'Integration,' a domed structure +allegedly built under extra-terrestrial guidance (located near 29 Palms, +California) prominently displays, to this day, key I AM artifacts such as the +portraits of Jesus and Saint Germain (commissioned by Ballard). + 188. 'The Afghan Arms Pipeline,' COVERT ACTION INFORMATION BULLETIN, no. +30 (summer, 1988). + 189. Telephone interview with John Judge. + 190. Village of Oak Creek, Arizona: Entheos, 1989, 119. I can't recall +ever encountering another book title which contained so many grammatical +errors. Armstrong's accomplishment is genuinely impressive. + 191. For further information on I AM, Prophet's organization, saucer +cults, and other groups, see the appropriate sections of J. Gordon Melton's +ENCYCLOPEDIA OF AMERICAN RELIGION. + 192. Ruth Montgomery, ALIENS AMONG US (New York: Ballantine, 1985), +128-188. + 193. Penny Harper, 'Are Aliens Taking Over the Earth?' WHOLE LIFE TIMES, +January 1990. + 194. John Keel, WHY UFOS: OPERATION TROJAN HORSE (New York: Manor Books, +1970) [paperback edition], 228. + 195. Hickson and Mendez, UFO CONTACT AT PASCAGOULA, 242. + 196. Strieber, COMMUNION, 134; TRANSFORMATION, 109. + 197. 'Contactee: Firsthand,' UFO magazine, vol. 4, no. 2, 1989. + 198. Telephone conversation, Tom Adams. + 199. Ed Conroy, REPORT ON COMMUNION (New York: William Morrow, 1989), +365-385. + 200. 'Contactee: Firsthand,' UFO magazine, vol. 3, no. 3. + 201. New York: Zebra, 1971. See especially note 2, Chap. 9. + + + SELECTED BIBLIOGRAPHY ON MIND CONTROL + +ACID DREAMS, by Martin A. Lee and Bruce Shlain (Grove, 1985). Outstanding + work on MKULTRA and drugs. + +THE BODY ELECTRIC, by Robert Becker (Morrow, 1985). Important. + +THE BRAIN CHANGERS, by Maya Pines (Signet, 1973). Outdated, but an excellent + chapter on the stimoceiver and related technologies. + +BRAIN CONTROL, by Elliot Valenstein (John Wiley and Sons, 1973). Highly + conservative; outdated; still worth reading. + +CIA PAPERS, compiled by Capitol Information Associates (POB 8275, Ann Arbor, + Michigan, 48107). Interesting selection of MKULTRA documents. + +THE CONTROL OF CANDY JONES, by Donald Bain (Playboy Press, 1976). Mandatory + reading. + +HUMAN DRUG TESTING BY THE CIA, hearings before the Subcommittee on Health and + Scientific Research on the Committee on Human Resources, United States + Senate (Government Printing Office, 1977). + +HYPNOTISM, by George Estabrooks (Dutton, 1957). See especially the chapters + on hypnosis in warfare and crime. Some modern experts in clinical + hypnosis decry Estabrooks' work. These 'experts' tend to have a history + of funding by CIA cut-outs and military intelligence. I suspect they + denounce Estabrooks not because his work was shoddy, but because he let + the cat out of the bag. + +INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND THE FEDERAL ROLE IN BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, by the Staff + of the Subcommittee on Constitutional Rights of the Committee of the + Judiciary, United States Senate (Government Printing Office, 1974). + +MEGABRAIN, by Michael Hutchison (Ballantine, 1986). The only popular book + on modern mind machines. + +MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION, by Jacques Vallee (And/Or, 1979). Vallee has been + criticized, correctly, for including in this book invented 'conver- + sations' with a composite character he calls Major Murphy. But the + section on cults in this book bears a haunting resemblance to stories + I have heard in my own investigations. + +THE MIND MANIPULATORS, by Opton and Scheflin (Paddington Press, 1978). Con- + servative, but extremely useful as a reference work. + +MIND WARS, by Ronald McCrae (St. Martin's Press, 1984). + +OPERATION MIND CONTROL, by Walter Bowart (Dell, 1978). The best single volume + on the subject. Difficult to find; indeed, this book's rapid disappear- + ance from bookstores and libraries has aroused the suspicions of some + researchers. (Tom David Books, POB 1107, Aptos, CA 95001, carries this + work.) + +PHYSICAL CONTROL OF THE MIND, by Jose Delgado (Harper and Row, 1969). Outdated + but still essential. + +PROJECT MKULTRA, joint hearing before the Select Committee on Health and + Scientific Research of the Committee on Human Resources, United States + Senate (Government Printing Office, 1977). + +PSYCHIC WARFARE: FACT OR FICTION? edited by John White (Aquarian, 1988). See + especially Michael Rossman's contribution. + +PSYCHOTECHNOLOGY, Robert L. Schwitzgebel and Ralph K. Schwitzgebel (Holt, + Rhinehart and Winston, 1973). + +THE SCIENTIST, by John Lilly (expanded edition: Ronin, 1988). Bizarre -- + Lilly is an ex-'brainwashing' specialist who claims to be in contact + with aliens. Is he controlled or controlling? + +THE SEARCH FOR 'THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE', by John Marks (Bantam, 1978). An + invaluable book. However, many people have made the mistake of assuming + it tells the full story. It does not. + +WERE WE CONTROLLED? by Lincoln Lawrence (University Books, 1967). Explores + possible connections to the JFK assassination. Dr. Petter Lindstrom's + endorsement of this work makes it mandatory reading. + +WHO KILLED JOHN LENNON? by Fenton Bresler (St. Martin's Press, 1989). + Interesting thesis concerning the possible use of mind control on Mark + David Chapman. Better in its analysis of Chapman than in its history + of mind control. In my own work, I have encountered data which may + help confirm Bresler's theory. + +THE ZAPPING OF AMERICA, by Paul Brodeur (MacLeod [Canadian edition], 1976). + Contains a good chapter on microwave mind control technology. + +The important stories of Martti Koski and Robert Naeslund can be obtained by +sending three dollars to Martti Koski, Kiilinpellontie 2, 21290 Rusko, +FINLAND. Koski's description of his 'programming' sessions should not be +taken at face value; we cannot always trust the perception of someone whose +perception has been altered. His research into the technology of mind control +is solid. + + + PoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEBoBPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoEPoE + +But none of that could ever happen in THIS country, oh never. We're protected +by the Philip Morris Constitution(tm) and the National Security Act of 1947. + + AND I FEEL SECURE. DON'T YOU? + +Television certainly couldn't be INTENTIONALLY CONTRIVED to induce hypnagogic f +trance states in its viewers through which the Con delivers ONENESS FANTASY +INDUCTION, Oral Gratification Stimulation and **DEATH ANXIETY** SIGNALS. + WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S CALLED 'PROGRAMMING'!?!? n +We have American brand McFreedom: we're free to consume ourselves into +indentured-servitude/wage-slave debt, free to get the BEST MIND CONTROL +ADVERTISING that CREDIT CAN BUY. Never mind McGovernment prying into our o +bladders for evidence of Thoughtcrime...those evil drug users aren't consuming +the RIGHT, government-SUBSIDIZED drugs and therefore are traitors to the +Fatherland! The Drug Czar really WASN'T ADDICTED TO NICOTINE; he r +chewed Nicorettes TO SET A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR THE CHILDREN and make them GOOD +CONSUMERS OF PHILIP MORRIS tobacco products. Hail Helms! Viva +Zapata Oil! NSA KNOWS BEST! d + + MEIN FUEHRER! I CAN WALK! + + +'If you want a picture of the future, 'One of the more interesting +imagine a boot stamping on a human concepts of propaganda -- at least +face -- forever.' propaganda in Western societies -- + - O'Brien is that it's a propaganda of + integration, that it's not an overt +'Simply knowing you're an object of practice, that it is something that +propaganda is not enough, in itself, has to take place over a long +to armor one against the appeals of period of time; it has to be fairly +propaganda. That's really the common; it has to be integrated +message of 1984...everybody's aware into everyday life.' +that the propaganda is ongoing -- - Richard Bolton, +that's what doublethink is, that's Prof. of Visual Arts, +what the concept of doublethink MIT +means: with one part of your mind +you can see that it's just a crock, No. 2: Why did you resign? +and you don't fall for it, but with No. 6: Too many people know too +the other part of that same mind, much. +you adhere blindly to it.' No. 2: Never! + - Mark Miller, + Johns Hopkins University + + + 'Outside man there is nothing.' + 'But the whole universe is outside us. Look at the stars! Some of them are +a million light-years away. They are out of our reach forever.' + 'What are stars?' said O'Brien indifferently. 'They are bits of fire a few +kilometers away. We could reach them if we wanted to. Or we could blot them +out. The earth is the center of the universe. The sun and the stars go round +it...For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the +ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume +that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions +of kilometers away. But what of it? Do you suppose it is beyond us to produce +a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we +need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you +forgotten doublethink?' + + Bad thinking is punishable. + No. 2: (shouts) Why POP! Good thinking will be as + No. 6: Pop, pop, pop. quickly rewarded. You will + find it an effective + combination. + - The Keeper + +As time is short, and you may lie, I'm The fact that the Conspiracy is +going to have to torture you. But I unaware of itself as a Conspiracy +want you to know it isn't personal. gives it such power over our minds + - Agent Rogerz that the very thought becomes + REPO MAN unthinkable. + - Arise! + SubGprop indoctrination tape #23 + + You don't have many suspects who are + innocent of a crime. That's contradictory. + If a person is innocent of a crime, then + he is not a suspect. + - Edwin Meese III + ex-U.S. Attorney General + + + + + . The conscious and intelligent manipula- + Jim Galasyn . .. tion of organized habits and opinions + . . . of the masses is an important element in + . . . . democratic society. Those who manipulate + . .. . . . . this unseen mechanism of society consti- + . . . . . .. tute an invisible government which is +. . . . . . . the true ruling power of our country. + jpg3196@aw401.iasl.ca.boeing.com - Edward L. Bernays, PROPAGANDA + +OR KILL ME. +-- + . 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3041.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3041.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d7f0c55e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3041.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,1427 @@ +SUBJECT: OMNI ARTICLE: ABDUCTIONS FILE: UFO3041 + + + + + +Date: 05-28-91 23:52 +From: John Powell +Subj: OMNI Article: Abductions + +From the June 1991 issue of OMNI, (Volume 13, #9, ISSN 0149-8711, OMNI +Publications, 1965 Broadway, New York, NY 10023-5965, $24/yr.) +From the Antimatter section, UFO Update: Can UFO researchers prove that +aliens are tagging and tracking humans with tiny devices in the body or +brain? + +"But how can anyone know whether a reputed implant is real or not? How, some +UFO investigators have begun to wonder, can they authenticate an implant +should a sample emerge?" + +Here's what a few had to say on that subject: + +"One person addressing this issue is David Pritchard, a physicist at the +Massachusetts Institute of Technology. According to Pritchard, no matter how +strange the structure or material of an alleged implant, if it is not some +'out of this world' material like 'heavy metals or quark matter' it won't be +possible to convince a lot of people. But, Pritchard adds, there are other +ways to skin the cat. For example, researchers could peg an insert as such +if it worked like a flashlight but was a hundred times brighter than any +flashlight on Earth. If the implant sent complex but unrecognizable signals, +he says, 'that would be pretty convincing as well.' Finally, Pritchard +believes, evidence would mount if investigators found the exact same type of +implant in numerous people making abduction claims." + +"The technique [MRI: Magnetic Resonance Imaging] was tapped by reputed +abductee Whitley Strieber, who says he remembers the insertion of needles in +his head. His MRI brain scans, he adds, now show strange white spots. 'Are +the unknown objects in my brain an outcome of such intrusions?' Strieber +asked in his recent book, Transformation. Pritchard says the dots prove +nothing: they could be air bubbles. But a statistical argument could be +made he adds, if researchers can show that professed UFO abductees have +significantly more dots than a random control group." + +"...UFO skeptic Phil Klass, who doesn't believe that aliens have ever come to +Earth, takes a different tack. First, he says, he would want to know 'where +the implant came from,' and would feel more confident if it had been removed +by a surgeon. Then, if it were something 'that could not form naturally in +the body,' he would want to know it if could be made with terrestrial +technology. If the answer to that is no, says Klass, 'I think you have your +proof.'" + +"...Robert Sheaffer, author of The UFO Verdict, who says the whole question +of UFO abductions is dubious and that the idea of alien implants is +'certainly rubbish.' According to Sheaffer, the UFO is a slippery phenomenon +that always manages to fade away before the evidence becomes too convincing, +and alien implants are an example of this. 'Some people might be saying they +were kidnapped by aliens for the money,' says Sheaffer. 'Others might be +doing it because they really believe that they were abducted. But there is +not a shred of evidence to substantiate this claim. Alien implants are just +too good to be true.'" + +"According to UFO abduction expert Budd Hopkins... a number of radiologists +are privately doing MRI scans on people who claim they have been abducted by +aliens -- and that the aliens have inserted devices in their bodies or +brains. But a neurosurgeon advised him that if, as claimed, implants exist +somewhere above the upper nasal passages, then they are near the optic nerve. + +In that case, he says, 'it would be very risky for a surgeon to try to get +one out.' What does Hopkins say about the prospect of actually validating +these weird alien implants? 'It'd have devastating societal impact,' he +says. 'I am not looking forward to something like this.'" + +------------------------------------------------------------------------ + + + + + + + + +Taken from UFO MAGAZINE Vol 2, No 2 1987 + +APRIL 1985. "I've never committed this account to writing +until now, since it has always seemed very 'personal' to me. +But before another decade passes I suppose I should enter it +into the record." Peter Gutilla, metaphysical teacher, +researcher and psychic in southern California, thus begins his +moving account of an encounter that portends some sort of +return visit-by hidden observers who seem to have quite a +lofty bag-of tricks! + + "It was near 1 a.m. on the morning of April 15, 1975. +After a meeting in Los Angles, I was driving home alone of the +Santa Ana Freeway, heading southeast in a small, dark blue, +1959 Mercedes coupe. The sky was clear and the weather +moderate. A few miles past the L.A. interchange, I'd just lit +a small cigar a friend had given me when a very clear voice +popped into my head, saying: "Is that a weapon?" + + "Before I go on, I should emphasize that after years of +working with psychics, not to mention my own ESP experience +since childhood, my reaction to things inward had become more +than a little casual. So I replied in a perfunctory way, 'No, +this isn't a weapon' and then went on to describe the act of +smoking, ending with: 'Who wants to know?'" + + "Immediately I looked to the southwest sky on my right, +out the front windshield. There, at about a 50-degree angle +and moving with me at what seemed to be the same speed, was a +ruby-red light traveling in an up/down, wave-like motion. +(Mentally I can 'see' that light in my mind as vividly as when +I saw it that day.) I 'knew' it was a UFO - not an airplane +or helicopter with a running red light, even though I was +unable to distinguish an outline that would indicate a solid +object." + + "Intrigued, I asked: ' Are you following me?' The +answer came, 'yes.' I slowed to the right lane of the freeway +and the light slowed immediately, doing this several more +times as I repeated the maneuver to see if it would follow my +lead. Although I was calm at this point, I felt a growing +anticipation which prompted me to urge the light to stay with +me since I planned to exit the freeway a few miles ahead." + + "The light remained steady in brightness and continued +its wavy flight alongside my car, seeming to slow down and +follow my turn as I left the freeway at Valley View Street in +La Mirada." + + "I drove into an abandoned filling station (closed, +windows boarded) and parked. Now I could vaguely discern an +oblate, circular shape surrounding the light, which had +stopped a few hundred feet above a huge industrial lot, across +the street from me to the south. The area directly below the +object was completely dark with no cars anywhere around except +some sparse traffic on the freeway behind me." + + "The irony of it was that to the object's right and +below was a restaurant packed with people, their only view +outside being a large window facing the freeway, in the +opposite direction from the hovering object. I remember +thinking, 'If they only knew what's hanging over their +heads!'" + + "Stepping out of the car, I stood facing the completely +silent object. I waved my arms several times and the red +light blinking correspondingly, convincing me all the more +that it was indeed focusing its attention on me, and +coincidentally in the same place at the same time." + + "I repeated the mental message: 'What do you want?' +Here an odd thing happened. For a quick moment I felt myself +'switch' to the object, and that's the only way I can describe +it - a switching of positions. In the space of a few seconds, +I was inside the object looking out of a bubble-like window at +myself standing near my car! There was no physical sensation +whatsoever, and I can only compare it to an out-of body +experience - but one that was clear and obvious - nothing +dream-like or imaginary about it. Following this, the object +swayed back and forth several times in a kind of pendulum +motion, still soundless and in the same position. Here, I +remember taking notice of a 'buzzing' sound in my head which +had increased in intensity, to the point of distraction. I'd +heard this sound before over the years, but never quite as +intense." + + "I glanced at my watch. About 15 minutes had elapsed +from the time I'd left the freeway. Mentally, I said 'I'd +like to see your craft. Can you turn more lights on?' +Instantly port and starboard lights blinked on momentarily, +lighting up the entire body of the object. The lights blinked +on and off for only a few seconds, but it gave me enough time +to see its disc shape, and that it was grayish in color and +maybe 45-50 feet in diameter." + + "With the blinking lights off, the red light glowed +steadily, swaying from side to side. Only a minute or so had +passed when I heard the noisy clatter of what I assumed to be +a police helicopter approaching from the west, shining its +intense spotlight to the ground intermittently. I said to +myself, 'Oh no - they're going to meet head on and I don't +have a camera!' As the helicopter approached, I thought for +sure it was going to hit the object, but strangely, the +aircraft passed very near the UFO, apparently unaware of its +presence!" + + "The helicopter flew in a broad circle slightly south of +the UFO, shining it's spotlight to the ground and seemingly +taking no notice of the object whatsoever. As the helicopter +wandered about, gradually fading in the distance, I couldn't +help but wonder if somehow the UFO occupants were able to +selectively choose who saw them." + + "I got back into my car, driving around the corner and +into an industrial lot. The object pivoted slowly as if to +keep itself oriented to my change of position, a move I could +see clearly as I entered the darkened area. I stepped from +the car and sent the thought: 'Can you land? I'd like to meet +with you.' A few seconds passed and the answer came, 'No, we +cannot - we are being watched... we will be back'" + + "I recall being both disappointed and confused. Being +watched? Maybe it was risky for them to come in low over +populated areas. But why hadn't the helicopter seen them? +Being watched by whom? Their own people? Were others +watching from the ground, or could they have been referring to +radar, etc? At any rate, the object seemed to shrink in size +to a star-like pinpoint of bluish light. It moved westward in +the direction of the Pacific and was gone." + + "Over 10 years have passed since the incident, and not a +day has gone by that I haven't thought about it. It has never +left me. Although it all took place in a brief span of time, +I know something significant happened; something simple and +profound." + + "Since then, I haven't looked at the nighttime sky +without thinking I can hear a faint humming sound that +invariably brings to mind those parting words, '...we will be +back.'" + +-------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +The following was taken from UFO Magazine Vol 2 No 4 - 1987 +-------- + + What do ET abductors want? It's been suggested that to +insure species survival, they're inbreeding genes of emotional, +self-willed, individuated Earth humans into their own excessively +mental, regimented race-but perhaps that's projection. What are +we learning? Self-reflectiveness, perhaps-a keener idea of just +who we are? Alicia Montell's testimony implies just such an +outcome. + + "Was I ever abducted? I mused over this question as I put +down a book I'd been reading, describing a person who through +hypnosis discovered having had an encounter with aliens at an +earlier time in his life." + + "I've never doubted that extraterrestrials exist. I have +always accepted as fact that we are only a small but +not-so-forgotten planet out here on the fringes of the Milky Way, +and are visited quite often by a variety of travelers. How could +anyone possibly ; think that we are the ONLY living, evolving, +experiencing creatures?" + + "My husband Bernt and I have read with great interest all the +stories we could lay our hands on, but at times had to smile-we +clearly saw that people's fear often created a lot of problems +for them. If instead they had been able to keep cool and +cooperate with the aliens, their stories would have been quite +different. They could have had encounters filled with awe and +understanding of those beings who impinged so forcefully upon +their lives." + + "Our seeming inability to identify with the fear in abductees +was somewhat altered by an explanation from our discarnate +friend, 'Arthur." he told us, 'Your race deeply believes anyone +entering from outside this planet cannot possibly look like us; +they MUST look different, they MUST be feared. You cannot see +these beings for what they really are. When confronted, a shield +automatically blinds your vision and distorts anything or anybody +that does not belong on the planet... they most likely are very +much like yourself' + + 'Arthur' went on to describe my inner travels and how I had +met many strange races outside Earth planet's confines. 'Remember +what happened when she met reaces similar to her own? She got +very upset, could not at first visualize their features, because +it was difficult to accept that others existing out there could +possibly look like her own race back on earth. Even in that free +a mental state, the race concept remained...' + + "Now I begin to wonder if I might find fear taking over +simply because the body reacts naturally, should I someday stand +in front of an alien. Anyway, I think I am ready to put it to +the test!" + + * * * + + "After reading the story about abduction, I began to think +seriously about examining my own childhood, to investigate a +little 'blank spot' I run across when I've reviewed my childhood +in order to better understand the roots of my beliefs. How can I +describe it? I sense a small spot in time that I purposely +forget when I try to visualize a childhood scene. Sometimes I +thought it could be a molestation, completely buried yet +affecting my personal attitudes. But never, never until this +moment did I associate it with extraterrestrials." + + "I underwent hypnosis. The usual commands were given to +place me in a deep trance, Bernt suggesting I move to a time in +my childhood where something out of the ordinary had happened, to +become that child and perceive all clearly, to answer any and all +questions..." + + "I find myself going back. the picture I get is weaving in +and out... I feel small, perhaps five years old. I am playing in +the dirt next to the driveway...I can feel the heat on my back +and the soft, powdery dirt in my hands...something makes me look +up." + + "I see two small men standing right in front of me. They are +about a head taller than I, very slim with stick-like arms and +legs with large, dark eyes and dressed in a mottled green +garment. Fear begins to rise, but in that very moment everything +becomes completely silent and I can no longer feel the heat." + + "The birds aren't singing and my fear is gone. I am in a +trance-like state. They must have hypnotized me so I wouldn't +scream and run away. They each take a hand and lead me along the +driveway. I walk in a daze. As we near the end of the drive, +the whole area seems filled with a huge, bulky, silver-gray ship. +Its rim is far above my head. They lead me up a 'moving walk' +and we enter a large, round area-sort of an entry hall with doors +all around and a dome-shaped ceiling. We go through a door and +down a short tunnel, enter a room with a row of chairs along one +wall. The opposite wall is full of blinking lights and small +glowing glass frames." + + "The two small men turn me toward a little old man sitting in +a very elaborate chair. His eyes are not too different from my +own. Perhaps the two who brought me in were wearing sunglasses? +That would explain the large, dark and slanted eyes that caught +my attention at first." + + "The old man takes my hands in his, and as he does, I can +hear again. he is pale and full of wrinkles, and has a white +beard neatly-trimmed to a thin edge from ear to ear. He looks +like a leprechaun! The ears stand out a bit from his head and +are slightly pointed. He say something I don't understand and +as he does a bunch of small 'cubes' start to tumble into my mind, +where they get neatly stacked up...they don't hurt me, but as +they enter my mind I become terrified. Instantly a curtain is +lowered. I am again blank and standing in a soundless state." + + "Our discarnate friend Arthur clarified things later. He +said the cubes are related to the mind only, that thee are ways +of depositing ideas into the mind. 'Perhaps she can touch them +mentally ; and get a slight understanding of what they contain,' +he said, 'The ideas contained in the cubes are so overwhelming +that there is no way she can encompass the whole message. But +she is getting the feeling of it and it is a little +frightening...Alicia is being prepared for a physical +confrontation. It could be very traumatic unless conditioning +has taken place over a period of years. + + "Her early encounter took place physically at the time and +space she described, and even though her recall projects a +physical picture, the incident was equally a mental experience. +The cubes are implanted in order to condition and encourage a +specific person to strive in a specific direction, because a race +on its own is very grounded in the planet's vibration is +therefore not prepared to confront any alien intrusion.' + + You are almost suggesting that we are really never alone of +this planet of ours, 'I interjected. 'No, you are not. You are +being watched, used, manipulated-but that is the nature of +things,' Arthur responded. 'There are always interactions, a need +and wish to assist others, to make transitions easier..the +seeds are planted to help you. Without them, you would not +develop or dream.' + + "We are so used to translating things into purely physical +terms. We grant acceptance to the physical props we have around +us, but is it all right to accept our visions and beliefs in +whatever form we clothe them? And once we stop laughing at it or +calling it just imagination-UFO sightings and all the +rest-perhaps then we can accept. Perhaps a lot of these things, +even more that we are currently willing to accept, are our sudden +shifts of awareness and vision." + +----------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + +FROM UFO MAGAZINE Vol 3, No 2 1988 + +You won't necessarily find Mike Bershad nor many like him aboard +the bandwagon that salutes benevolent ETs and broadcasts a +hopeful message about their mission on earth. Mike is "in touch" +with another form of entity, and if "they" have any mission, it's +an urgent, overriding necessity to plunder human anatomy with +speed and calculation. + +The lives of many abductees distill abruptly into issues of +emotional survival. Few are blithe and unaffected by their +ordeals in the netherworld, though an individual trauma can be +offset by the catharsis of "going public" + +Abduction has not yet broken free of its identification with myth +and hallucination, but the time approaches. For the time being, +Mike is content with partial memory. + +--- + + "This is the first time I've written about my abduction +experience, although I've been written about (see Budd Hopkins' +Missing time') My name is not Steve Kilburn (the alias used in +the book) but Michael Bershad." + + "Many people have told me that they'd love to meet an alien +or be taken for a ride in a flying saucer. My viewpoint is +somewhat different." + + "The most terrifying thing I've ever encountered was looking +into the eyes of one of these 'creatures.' To describe their eyes +as black, shiny and oval simply doesn't do them justice. it's +true that the eyes lacked an iris, pupils, eyelids, eyelashes. +But there was more. I sensed no emotion, no feeling, no +humanity, and consequently, no exchange of any understanding +whatsoever." + + "If anyone thinks that an abduction experience is +enlightening or fun, think again. I was totally powerless, and +was made to comply with whatever they wanted me to do. My +slightest thought was monitored, and I was accorded no more +respect than a laboratory rat. An examination of my body was +made, and I now understand how a frog in a classroom of biology +students must feel. But the sheer terror came from the +uncertainty of what was to come. Would my heart be removed? +Would they pull off a leg, just to see what would happen? I had +no way of knowing and they dealt with my questions the way most +adults handle children, by humoring me with idiotic platitudes or +simply by ignoring me altogether. It's true that I was not +physically harmed, but I continue to bear the emotional trauma of +this experience even today, many years later." + + "I do not know that the creatures I saw were 'aliens' or that +the object I was taken into was a flying saucer. I simply know +what I perceived, from the memory of my hypnotic regressions. The +creatures were most assuredly foreign to me; where they were from, +I had no idea. The object I was walked into seemed disc-shaped, +yet I had no way of knowing if it could fly. These aren't mere +semantic quibbles; if any truth is to be ascertained from +abductees' stories, the abductees better stick to what they +actually experienced and leave 'conclusions' and speculation to +the investigators and science fiction writers. Somebody has to +bear the responsibility for telling the truth as objectively as +possible, and it might as well be those who have had 'the +experience' itself. It's hard enough dealing with the abduction; +adding bells and whistles only clouds an already muddled issue." + + "I have never claimed with 100 percent certainty that my +hypnotic memory of events is what actually happened to me. But +that presents some problems for me, personally." + + "- When I recounted my story to my parents, I expected them to +be incredulous. Quite the contrary. They reminded me of a UFO +sighting I told them I had at the approximate time and place of my +abduction experience. I was amazed, as I had no recollection of +this at all. They found that strange!" + + "- A licensed polygraph administrator concluded that my test +results proved that I hadn't made up the story." + + "- A highly reputable neurosurgeon told me, after several hours +of consultation and examination in his hospital office, that a +science 'greater than our own' had examined my body. He also +informed me that he had tried to trick me concerning the medical +examination that the creatures performed upon me; I was steadfast +in my recollections when he questioned me and this upset him. +Incidentally, he didn't believe in UFOs." + + "- The psychologists I dealt with were not convinced that UFO +beings carried me off. They were convinced that something external +left an extraordinary impression on me. In other words, it wasn't +my vivid imagination, as I would have preferred to believe!." + + "Some time after my hypnotic sessions were over, I had an +experience that bears repeating. My wife and I were at a business +party in Southampton, N.Y. It was a beautiful summer night, and +electric terrace lanterns illuminated the patio and house. After +an hour or so, the lights suddenly went out. We noticed the +neighbors also were without lights. Most everyone loved the idea, +and candles were brought out to enliven the festive atmosphere." + + "I suddenly grew panicky, very nervous, and headed for a fence +at the perimeter of the yard. I became nearly incoherent, mumbling +wild things to myself like 'they're coming back for me...they know +I've talked..' etc. + + "I know exactly where to look. Up and off in a distance, +perhaps a mile away, a huge, glowing ball of light hung above the +tree line. Fortunately my wife followed me and she, too, saw the +light. To prove to myself that I wasn't crazy, I insisted that she +tell me exactly what she saw, and she told me she saw exactly what +I did. The light slowly dipped behind the trees, and moments later +the electricity came on again." + + "Did the light have anything to do with the blackout? I have +no way of knowing. No one else at the party was drawn to the edge +of the yard, or even saw the light, as far as I know. And my wife +implored me to 'keep it quiet,' as these were business clients of +hers." + + "Part of me doesn't want to believe that I was abducted and +examined by 'aliens'. but as farfetched as this hypothesis seems, +it's more logical than any of the other explanations I've heard. +I'm well educated, and I'm aware of what whether balloons and +satellites look like; I've also never involved myself with alcohol +or drugs. And sadly, I no longer believe in the Easter Bunny or +Santa Claus." + + "But before I die, I pray that I get the answer to this one +question: What exactly happened to me that night on Route 40?" + +------------------------------------------------------------------ + + + +TAKEN FROM UFO MAGAZINE VOL 4 # 3 + +In Vol. 4, No. 1 of UFO, columnist Ron Quinn told of his +friend +Sam, who claims he came upon and photographed a UFO alien +while +hiking in the Arizona desert. Quinn was able to take a look +the +phone and was impressed enough to make some sketches based on +what he saw. + +The photo-inspired drawing immediately caught the attention of +William Curtis, a retired gentleman living in Michigan. +Curtis +insists he's seen the same alien. He went through an +elaborate +abduction, he says, during the course of which he got to see +the +'same being' up close. + +Curtis speaks in a measured baritone voice that sounds like +the +late 'Duke' Wayne. After seeing Quinn's story and +accompanying +sketches he called to tell us what happened to him, spending a +great deal of time in pensive recollection. 'You can't rush +this +thing,' he said. + +At one point, Curtis labored to describe the alien's physical +characteristics in painstaking detail. Not the regulation +large +headed, dark-eyed, assembly line 'greys,' in fact, according +to +Curtis this humanoid creature's penetrating eyes had pupils, +for +one thing. + +The following is the witness' best recall of the UFO incident: + + "Now this little being that Sam drew, and was seen by Ron +Quinn-it's the first time I've seen a sure likeness of an +alien being. There are a few differences from what I saw, but +the man is telling the absolute truth." + + "The reason I'm telling you this is because you can reach +the public. Every word I say is the truth. I've been to some +researchers; they knew I was telling the truth. They wanted +me to come back for more hypnosis sessions. But, nah, I +didn't. I had too many other things on my mind. My story +just sounds too fantastic. I've talked to people who're +supposed to know that 'they' are here, who've seen them, and +even they have a hard time believing me. Sometimes a +psychologist can be the poorest person in the world to talk +to, especially the younger ones just out of school. They +think you're crazy! They may be very highly intelligent +people, but they don't have the experience." + + "I had a recollection in December of 1987 of an abduction +that took place in September of 1974. I went to see a doctor +that month because I had all the symptoms of leukemia and +funny scars all over my back--scoop marks and everything. The +doctors thought I had cancer, but they found out I had nothing +wrong. I was cured in a few days, by myself. The doctors +couldn't understand why I was cured so fast." + + "This is my recollection; it started out when I was in my +bedroom and suddenly found myself floating. My left arm was +extended and there were these little beings in front of me, +but it was just an outline, kin of a grey-white blob. +Everything was misty. I was laughing. I was in a very jovial +mood." + + "It was more than a dream; in a dream you lie down and +see the abstract from the dream. But I was a part of this. I +got up; I seemed to be moving upwards. I looked around and +there seemed to be faces around, 14 or 15 faces. They were +about a dozen feet away. I could see them very clearly and +started to get suspicious." + + "My emotions just turned from being jolly and everything, +to being really angry. This emotional change happened in a +very short time - just boom, boom, boom like that. I thought +to myself, 'remember you are not yourself.' I tried to reach +out to this one little individual and grab it by its neck, and +the next thing I know, I can barely ; move my arm, hands and +fingers. I wasn't able to touch anything. Something drifted +up or walked up to my right. I turned and looked into this +face with black, slanted-up eyes and blue-grey complexion." + + "He had this frown on his face - I could see those black +eyes just boring into me, and it made me helpless, even more +so than I was. The women - I say this because of a gut +feeling, and their size in comparison to the others - I call +them nurses, and they stand right next to me and are looking +at me very intensely. I just sensed they were women, I don't +know. But here's how one abductee can relate to another. You +know certain things, but you don't know why. You just know +it. Part of your brain knows it, like mental telepathy." + + "You know Whitley Strieber's picture on the cover of +Communion? Similar to that, but Strieber's had a more +elongated face. These individuals appear to have surgical +caps on their heads. They had me on a table and I seemed to +go back and forth, back and forth. They seemed to be pulling +on me, doing things to me, but there was no pain, you see. I +was just helpless. But there was a feeling they were +experimenting with me." + + "And in another part of my recollection, I am sitting on +a stool and some beings is 'constructing' me on a stainless +steel panel. The stool was hard, I remember, and I had a hard +time breathing. I complained, I guess. The next thing I know +- and this is very vivid - I reached out my right hand and I +feel this cushion under me! And all of a sudden I feel better +with him. I was making faces at him. I remember putting my +hands up to my ears and sticking my tongue out at him." + + "Remember, you're not yourself! I was just scorning them + -'the hell with you' sort of thing. But I had a gut feeling +that these beings were friendly, these little fellas. I can't +explain why I know this. Anyway, he opened his mouth and +wagged his little tongue and it's this teeny little tongue way +back inside of his mouth. He had no jawbone, no jaw hinge. +All he could do is open his mouth which formed a circle, and +there seemed to be little ridges around his gums. I looked +like a dark burgundy color in there. But I made a face at him +and he made one back. Isn't that funny? But it's true!" + + "The next thing I knew, someone came into the room and +said. 'We've decided to take you back home.' And I often +think, I wonder what the other alternative was -! After this, +I'm floating. Not one time did I ever feel the floor under my +feet or did I ever feel any pain - nothing. No sensation at +all, except for having a hard time breathing." + + "Two little individuals are in front of me and two behind +me. One of them said, 'Do you remember this place? This is +where you came in.' I didn't know, but didn't want to tell +him that - I'm obstinate. They laughed, - no, not laughed, +but I got the feeling they were amused. They knew what I was +thinking." + + "Then we go into this circular hallway, on the outer edge +of the AFM - that's what I call it, 'alien flying machine' +AFM, not UFO. Something opened up and I got this gulp of +fresh air. And I started to get afraid. I looked down and +saw this distorted room. And he said, 'go ahead, jump off' I +wouldn't do it at first. I believe they came up and touched +my arm. One in back of me said, 'go ahead, you're safe' or +something like that." + + "When I feel, it felt like...have you ever been on a +roller-coaster? That's what it felt like. It took my breath +away. But I was cushioned about two feed from the roof. I +could see the distortion of the shingles. And then something +picked me up, straightened me out and spun me around, and it +dropped me down right through the roof! They laid me back on +the bed, grabbed my arms and pulled me up. My arms are folded +over my chest and the quilt is tucked up neatly under my chin. +And I'm lying there as if I were in a casket!" + + "This is where the vividness came in. A white light is +coming through the roof and this little being is going up this +light. I heard a whirring sound, like a generator coming from +above. This little being as he went up was kicking his legs +real fast, and he turned, counter-clockwise, and I saw his +face. His eyes were going back and forth; he was under some +kind of pressure. The light became brighter, and pulsated, +and the noise got louder. He put his hands together, like +diving, and appeared very agile, but had to coordinate himself +with that light. He went up into a grey UFO. It seemed as if +they had pressed a button and wanted me to see this. What I +saw - the 'AFM' had duct-work underneath it. The light went +up, the ceiling went into place and that was it." + + "I can describe this being. Ron Quinn had him down +pretty pat. I'll start with his uniform. It ended at his +elbows, and was a lead color, with a metallic look, but it +wasn't metal. It was a material strictly alien to us, but +well-tailored. It adhered to his body and had a very slight +triangular pattern in it. I saw a collar, and black boots as +part of the uniform. I saw a black belt somewhere but I don't +think it was on him....." + + "This whole recollection took about 1 1/2-2 minutes, like +they wanted me to see it. Ron Quinn had given him a large +jaw. Take a little bit off his jaw. He also gave him an +upsweep on his jaw like a human being. Well, that's wrong. +It goes almost straight back to his neck, no hinge on his jaw. +The forehead is right; two furrows, that's what I saw. He had +a broad forehead, but his head is rounded off more. If you +took a ruler and started at his tailbone and ran up his +backbone and ran it straight up to his head, you'd hardly see +any daylight. That's important." + + "The neck is well-developed. He had muscles like a +swimmer - long and smooth, not bulging like a weight-lifter. +Broad shoulders. The body was rather heavy-set, but not fat. +And it's a man - big in the shoulders and slanted down to very +slender hips. The eyes are perfect, with colored irises that +get darker at the outer edge." + + "It's hard to relate this to a person who's never had +experiences like this. when you're in a position like this, +you simply recollect what you saw. You aren't telling +yourself, 'Now, I gotta remember this'... the expression in +his eyes was one of excitement, not fierceness. The whites of +his eyes were actually grey. He had a definite eyeball with an +iris and a black pupil. The nose was a pug nose, just a piece +of flesh, with nostrils almost straight up and down. The +nostrils were prominent compared to the size of the nose. His +ears were just a lump I remember on the sides of his head. +His arms were long, down to his knees; the only thing on him +that wasn't proportional. He had four fingers like us and a +thumb that curved inside his palm." + + "Unlike some others, I haven't been told I'm on a mission +or anything like that. It's hard for me to accept that sort +of thing. They are experimenting with us, and in my case it +was very elaborate. Some people are picked up and forgotten +about. In this case, they never let me alone. In other +words, they appeared to let me know they were around. They +still do. It got so I would run inside the house. I got +tired of 'em. Most people look for 'em in the sky. Hell, I +was runnin' away from 'em! I got sick of it." + + "They communicated with me. They said they had their eye +on me and were watching me for years and years. This is only +part of the story. You can't rush it. The abductee is as +much in the dark as someone who suddenly sees and AFM in the +air and wonders what it is. He calls it a UFO. I believe +they are extraterrestrial. They are not from our solar +system. And they're extradimensional." + + "I don't know the rhyme or reason for all this, although +I do know they are interested in our intellectual and +emotional precesses. I experienced laughter, suspicion, +anger, contentment and a feeling of comradeship with these +little beings. I asked them questions. They were very +interested in me for reasons I don't know." + + "One guy one time said, off-hand, 'you probably were +abducted,' and he laughed. I had to laugh, too - I didn't +know what was going on and I still don't. How could they go +through the roof? How could they do these things?" + +------------------------------------------------------------------ + + + + +FROM UFO Magazine Vol 2, No 4 1987 + +For over 20 years Allan Drake has been obediently listening to +alien messages coming to him telepathically. Though at first +resistant and disbelieving, Drake has finally come to terms with +his experiences-and his unseen mentors-enough to recall the +contact hopefully ;and passionaltely express his dismay about +general ignorance of extraterrestrial phenomenon. He sounds a +clear warning that such ignorance must end. + +-------- + + "It is difficult for me to describe my feelings. But I feel +that for me and others the contactee experience has opened up a +window on the many mysteries that have gone unanswered for many +centuries." + + "It started in 1959 when I was 14. With my family, I was +living in a township near East St. Louis, Illinoise. We kids +used to play in an old, abandoned train depot near the house. + + "One evening while I was alone and looking down the tracks, I +noticed a glow coming from a distance. At first I thought it was +a train, but it didn't move and I got curious. I started walking +down the tracks toward the glow." + + "I got within 50 feet of what looked like a round, metallic +craft sitting right on the tracks. Three beings stood around it. +They were about 4 feet tall with rather large heads and no hair. +Their eyes were larger than normal;the noses were very small. +They had small mouths. As I approached the beings seemed to +stare at me, making no moves." + + "I became frightened and tried to hide in a gulley which ran +alongside the tracks. The beings turned to face me, still +staring. I could feel their eyes in my head! While watching the +craft in a prone position, I was struck in the head by a blue +beam of light from the craft, and rendered unconscious. Later I +awoke but the craft and beings were gone. I had the impression +they had done something to me..." + + "Since that time there have been other incidents. About +eight years ago, while I was taking my son to the movies, my car +was bumped violently from behind while I was waiting at a stop +light. There were no other cars near at the time. When we +looked behind, there was nothing there." + + "When I arrived home I examined the rear of the car. On the +trunk could be seen five round marks arranged in a circular +fashion, each about the size of half-dollar coins. The paint had +been 'erased' in those areas. + + "About two years later, while working as a guard at a local +college in the hills, I was sitting in my car at the bottom of a +hill, while another guard was on duty at the top. Later he told +me he had seen a blue ball of light over my car, and watched it +while it flew away. He described it as the size of a basketball. +I was unaware of what was happening, but did have the impression +my memory was being scanned. Different memories were coming to +mind, even of childhood times. + + "One night about three years later, I was in the living room +watching television. It was about 2:30 a.m. Suddenly the TV +started acting funny, and a kind of static charge seemed to fill +the room. Then a huge wind hit the house. It felt like it was +going to tear the house apart! I felt like there was some huge +object right over the house-I was petrified and couldn't leave +the chair. It stopped after a few minutes. Later we found the +TV antennae had been damaged. + + "Recently there have been other strange incidents in my +house. Knocks come from the walls and roof. Things pop off the +walls at times. All during this time I have had what I believe +is telepathic communication with alien beings, who tell me +they're from the 'Association of Planets' who started life on +this planet and others. They have mastered what we call genetic +engineering and can create any life form they please by arranging +DNA cells. They have powerful mental abilities and can move +objects by thought alone. They control the human mind by +implanting suggestions, making a person think an objects there +when it's not, or making it invisble when it's there! It's done +by controlling aspects of the brain. + + "It was decided they would build a whole new world on earth. +Association scientists got together and decided what life forms +would be here, and arrangements were made to create ones to fit +in with the various climates on the planet. They wanted a +balance where no one life form would dominate. One planet +learder named Lucifer did not agree with this arrangement and had +a dispute with the High Council... + + "Life was eventually planted on Earth. Scientists +experimented with different life forms, and some of them didn't +work out...eventually it was decided that the intelligent form of +life would be human in appearance. Different races of human +types in the Association wanted the first humans on earth to +resemble them. The human races were each allowed to plant a man +and woman that resembled them in different regions on Earth, and +a sophisticated civilzation developed, along with advanced +science. + + "During this time, the Association has also developed life on +two other planets in this solar system, Mars and a planet known +as Vulca. It was found during this period that mankind had +unstable emotions. The one once known as Lucifer-dismissed from +the Association and called the "Fallen One" after attempting a +violent takeover-took advantage of this and created friction +between the various civilizations. As a result, the planet Vulca +was completely destroyed, and the civilization on Mars also, with +most of its atmosphere blown away. + + "Civilization on Earth was destroyed too. A few structures +from that time still remain, such as Stonehenge and the Great +Pyramids. Mankind on Earth today is what remains of those people +long ago, and it is feared that the same mistakes of the past +will be repeated... + + "There are some people who will do anything to keep this +knowledge covered up. They fear the changes that would result +from society's full understanding. They want to remain on top of +the heap, though they should not be. This knowledge is for all +people, regardless of race, nationality or creed. To our fathers +in space, all peoples of the world are one people. + + "I realize what I have to say will bring me some ridicule and +will probably set me back socially-but I am willing to bear those +burdens! I feel a compulsion to get this information out, no +matter what the cost to myself." + +------------------------------------------------------------------ + + + + +Message #6661 - UFO + Date : 14-Jun-91 22:30 + From : John Powell + To : Glenn Devlin +Subject : Hill Abduction: 1 of 7 + +This information should be attributed to Barbara Becker. The file is named +HILL.LTR and is in seven parts. This is part one of an examination of the +book Interrupted Journey by Fuller. +-+--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Name: Barb Becker #106 @3466 +Date: Sat Jun 02 02:10:39 1990 + + Sometime ago I received a paper form a researcher in Columbia Missouri on +the Hill case. I found the paper very interesting but wondered if his conclu- +sions were accurate. I decided to contact Mrs. Hill. I told her about the BBS +and that I wanted to put the paper on the board, but wanted to let her know +what was being said and offer her a chance for rebuttal/corrections. She ac- +cepted. What follows is the paper, and then two letters from her. I have used +[brackets] to show her corrections. + + ****************************************** + + INTELLIGENCE, MEDIA CONNECTIONS IN UFO CASES + UFOsearch / Val Germann / Columbia, Mo. / 1990 + +#2 The Hill Abduction Case, 1961, source: Interrupted Journey + +SEPT. 18-19 [Sept. 19-20] Barney and Betty Hill abducted in the White Moun- +tains of New Hampshire. They remember part of the experience but have over 2 +hours of "missing time," of which they are totally unaware at first. Barney +remembers seeing huge object with "fins with red lights on the ends" and "crew +members behind glass" panels at very short range. This object was more than +100 feet across and hovered 50 feet above the ground only 300 feet away for +several minutes Barney watched through binoculars. + +SEPT. 20 Betty Hill calls her sister and tells her part of the story. Sister +then calls a local physicist who suggested they check for radiation. Sister +also calls local police chief who suggests they call Pease AFB, Portsmouth, +N.H. Betty calls the Air Force Base, worried about radiation. The officer who +answers was at first "cynical and unresponsive" but finally did ask to talk to +Barney. After Barney mentioned the "fins with lights" the officer perked up +and said the call was being "monitored". Barney felt that the officer was +definitely interested. Barney did not mention the figures he had seen behind +the glass through binoculars. + +SEPT. 21 Major Paul Anderson, Intelligence Officer for the 100th Bomb Group, +Pease AFB, calls back, says he has stayed up all night working on a report of +this incident. Asked Barney for the size of the object. Barney says it +appeared as big as a dinner plate held at arms length. Major Anderson filed a +report with Blue Book, #100-1-61. + +SEPT. 23 Betty [Barney] Hill Goes to the local Library and finds one of Major +Donald Keyhoe's books on UFOs. Takes down his address. + +SEPT. 26 Betty Hill writes to Keyhoe in Washington, D.C., describing the +incident as she remembers it. Fuller reports that NICAP (Keyhoe's +organization) was getting 40,000 letters a year. + +SEPT. 30 Ten days after the sighting Betty Hill begins to have a series of +vivid and awesome dreams, which Fuller does not tell us about. They continue +for five days and then stop. + +OCT. 4 Keyhoe is asked to lunch by Robert Hohman and someone named C.D. +Jackson, "senior engineer" for a "notable electronics company", name +withheld. They are supposedly working on a paper about extra-terrestrial +contacts that Nikola Tesla, David Todd and Marconi were alleged to have +experienced in the early part of the century. Keyhoe tells them about the +Hills. + +OCT. 21 Walter Webb, investigtaor for Keyhoe's NICAP and an astronomer [lec- +turer] with the Hayden Planetarium, New York, N.Y., comes to interview the +Hills. He is there several hours. Betty does not tell him about her dreams. +Barney tells of the "captain" and others he saw through the glass. + +OCT. 25? Betty begins to have a series of dreams following an experience in +the car. She had panicked as she and Barney had come upon a stalled auto in +the road with some people standing around it. That night she dreamed of being +taken into a UFO and given some sort of examination. + +OCT. 26 Webb's report goes to NICAP in Washington. He had not been contacted +by Keyhoe directly but through the mail by Richard Hall, NICAP's secretary. He +had been skeptical. He was very much impressed by the Hills, however. + + +--- XRS! 4.02+ + * Origin: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence (Quick 1:19/19.19) + + + +Message #6662 - UFO + Date : 14-Jun-91 22:33 + From : John Powell + To : Glenn Devlin +Subject : Hill Abduction: 2 of 7 + +This is part two of an examination of the book Interrupted Journey by Fuller. +-+--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +NOV. 3 Hohman and Jackson write the Hills asking for an interview. They tell +the Hills that they are serious minded men whose interest is in "verifying the +origin of these vehicles according to existing scientific theory maintained by +Hermann Oberth." Oberth was of V-2 rocket fame. They did not reveal their +place of employment but permission was granted. + +NOV. 25 Hohman and Jackson come to the house to interview the Hills. "Also +visiting that day" is Major James McDonald, a long-time friend of the Hills +and an Air Force intelligence officer. It appears he asks no questions about +who Homan and Jackson are. The Hills had "discussed the case many times with +Maj. McDonald." The three of them spend 12 hours talking to the Hills about +their experience, including the "men" behind the glass. Major McDonald +suggests hypnosis but does not know any therapists. The matter rests here for +some time. Both Hills begin to be concerned about the incident and the chance +they may have been hallucinating. + +MAR., 1962 Betty Hill writes to a doctor recommended by a colleague. The +Hills see him and tell their stories. The doctor recommends they wait and see +if the problem subsides on its own. No therapy is attempted. + +SUMMER, 1962 Barney begins to see a psychiatrist about his anxiety but only +briefly mentions the UFO incident. + +SEPT., 1962 The Hills are invited to a "UFO Study Group" to informally talk +about their experience. That meeting is taped, by whom Fuller does not say, +unknown to the Hills. Betty talked of her dreams, the dream of the physical +examination. + +SEPT., 1963 The Hills tell their church discussion group about the UFO inci- +dent. That same day Captain Ben Swett, from Pease AFB, was to talk about hyp- +nosis, which he had made a personal hobby of his. The Hills are encouraged by +Major McDonald to talk to their church friends about their experience and en- +couraged by Capt. Swett to undergo hypnosis. Barney is experiencing extreme +psychological disturbances as a result of the UFO sighting and abduction. He +would die in the late 1960's at the age of 46. + + +Television movie THE UFO INCIDENT with James Earl Jones and Estelle Parsons. +Dr. Simon had been technical advisor on a WWII movie made by John Huston +called LET THERE BE LIGHT. + +JUNE, 1964 Sessions with Dr. Simon end. + +FALL [Oct.], 1965 Sensational articles run in Boston newspaper about the +Hills experience. Information taken from tape made at the Sept., 1962 "UFO +Study Group" meeting, provenance unknown. + +NOV., 1965 Unitarian Church in Dover, N.H., invites the Hills to talk. Hills +meet with Admiral Knowles, NICAP, before they speak. Also on program is a +Public Information Officer from Pease, AFB, who is a member of the Church [not +a church member] and has helped set up the event. He does not attack the +Hills. At this time a huge UFO flap was underway in the area and hundreds of +people were turned away from the church on a cold and raw evening. The usual +attendance for the weekly Unitarian sessions: 40 people. + +--- XRS! 4.02+ + * Origin: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence (Quick 1:19/19.19) + + + +Message #6663 - UFO + Date : 14-Jun-91 22:35 + From : John Powell + To : Glenn Devlin +Subject : Hill Abduction: 3 of 7 + +This is part 3 of an examination of the book Interrupted Journey by Fuller. +-+--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +AS YOU CAN SEE from the simple chronology above (assembled from John Fuller's +book with difficulty) there is more going on in the Hill case than meets the +eye. + +WHO WERE "HOMANN and C.D. Jackson?" Who were they really working for? Why was +a "major electronics firm" paying them to investigate 60-year-old fairy tales +about Nikola Tesla? What "scientific theories" held by Hermann Oberth could be +of interest to an "electronics firm." What we actually have here is a "cover" +for intelligence activity. + +IN ALIENS FROM SPACE, 1973, Keyhoe says that these two "engineers" were +"aiding NICAP." That is not the impression that is given in Fuller's book. In +INTERRUPTED JOURNEY the strong impression is that these two gentlemen simply +had an independent interest due to a strange research assignment from their +company. This could be accepted in 1966. In 1990 we know better. + +YOU SEE, by the fall of 1963 a gentleman named C.D. Jackson was working for +Time/Life Corporation in an executive position. In fact, he was helping to +arrange a $25,000 payment to the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald. + +IN CASE YOU HAVE forgotten, Time/Life bought the Zapruder Film for $150,000 +and then made sure it was not shown as a film for many years. Then, when it +was shown, it had been obviously altered. David Lifton in BEST EVIDENCE says +that the film was at the CIA's photo interpretation lab the day Time/Life +bought it. + +DOES THE FACT THAT Donald Keyhoe had lunch with C.D. Jackson just after +getting Betty Hill's letter "resonate" with you? It does with this author. +Donald Keyhoe was, in UFOsearch's opinion, running a two-track operation. In +the public and with his organization he was not interested in "contactee" +stories. But on deep background he was involved with another investigation, +one connected with the intelligence community. Were they running him? + +CONSIDER THIS. In ALIENS FROM SPACE Keyhoe says that "A well-known journalist, +John Fuller, had learned of the case in a confidential talk at NICAP. It was +arranged that he should prepare the record using Dr. Simon's taped questions +and the Hill's answers." Then Keyhoe says: INTERRUPTED JOURNEY received a +surprising amount of serious attention compared to the usual treatment of +"contactee stories." How interesting. + +YES--AND THE "abduction story" has become a staple of the UFO investigator. +Indeed, the sanitized Hill story became the ONLY abduction movie ever +made --- before COMMUNION, 1989. And the Hill saga appeared only on the small +screen, it never ran in theaters. The same could almost be said for COMMUNION +which was not widely distributed and died a very quick death. It will be in +video stores by mid-1990 which, I think, is the idea. + +OTHER QUESTIONS: How did it happen that one of the Hill's best friends was an +Air Force Intelligence Officer who just happened to be visiting the day that +Hohman and Jackson showed up? Isn't it interesting that they were the ones who +first made the Hills aware of their "missing time?" Isn't it interesting that +they were the ones who suggested hypnosis? + +ISN'T IT INTERESTING that the man finally called in to do the regressions on +the Hills was the Executive officer of the Army's main psychiatric hospital +during World War II, who did his undergraduate work at Johns Hopkins +University whose wartime president was a member of MAJESTIC-12 and who was the +technical advisor on the major WWII propaganda film made by the famous +director John Huston? The Hills went through two other therapists before going +to Simon. Did they have the money to pay this gentlemen, who must have been +very, very expensive? This is something Fuller does not talk about. Did NICAP +pay their way? + +UNPLEASANT POSSIBILITY The Hills were "set up" by the people dealing with the +so-called "Greys" out in New Mexico. The Hill case was either a deep-cover +check on what the "Greys" were doing under the "agreement" or it was an even +deeper-cover attempt at "disinformation" to get "abductions" in play--safely. + +END HILL CASE + +--- XRS! 4.02+ + * Origin: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence (Quick 1:19/19.19) + + + +Message #6664 - UFO + Date : 14-Jun-91 22:37 + From : John Powell + To : Glenn Devlin +Subject : Hill Abduction: 4 of 7 + +This is a letter from Betty Hill to Barb Becker which speaks to the previous +examination of the book Interrupted Journey by Fuller, (previous 3 messages). +-+--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Letter from Betty Hill: + + Scientists, working at top level government jobs. Their HOBBY was ufos. As a +job protection for them, we agreed not to release their employment, altho it +was well known to us. C D Jackson was never associated with Time/Life. We had +continuing contacts with them. Jackson, in 1966, was still working in Alabama, +at the same employment. + Most of our friends were officers at Pease AFB. Usually, we all met at the +Officers Club every Friday night. Barney's best friend was a Lt. Col. in +Intelligence. Jim McDonald was a Major; also a friend who dated one of my best +friends. Later they married. We visited each other regularly. + Jim McDonald suggested hypnosis because our mutual friend, Capt. Ben Swett, +officer at Pease, did this. Ben felt his type of hypnosis was not adequate, as +he used only a light stage, which is the stage of suggestibility. + Dr Ben Simon had left military service years before we met him and he was +in private practice. Dr Stephans referred us to him because he knew he used +medical hypnosis, taught in medical school, when Dr. Stephans had been one of +his students. + As for the movie, "Let Their Be Light" dealt with medical hypnosis used by +Dr Simon to treat servicemen returning from WW2, and restoring them to good +health. A wonderful movie - it should be released to the public. + As for two therapists; we consulted one, one appointment. Barney was seen +be Dr Duncan Stephans, but I was not. + As for the cost of our appointments with Dr Simon, it is true he was very +expensive. Our health insurance paid one-half of this. Bill was submitted for +"therapy following ufo capture". We paid the remaining half, which was in the +thousands of dollars. + John Fuller did not learn of our experience from NICAP, or Donald Keyhoe. +From them, he learned the information which resulted in his book, INCIDENT IN +EXETER. He was in this area, gathering information for this, when the Boston +newspaper articles were published. + As for "Unpleasant Possibility" - Pure Paranoia! Nothing "sinister" about +our experience or our friends. And the UFO definitely had nothing to do with +New Mexico. + It would be appreciated if you would send me a corrected copy for your +computer. Nice to hear from you - + + Sincerely, + Betty (signed) + Betty Hill + +P.S. How I know those who captured us were not from New Mexico -- No alien- +government base exists there. Apparently this story began when a woman in a +light trance of hypnosis told of being taken there. + Ed Conroy, a writer, and a friend Dora Ruffner did an investigation of +this. They learned the locations of these so-called bases were located on the +reservation of the Jicarilla Apache Tribe, a restricted area. So they met with +the tribal leaders and obtained permission to research the areas, with guides +and without them. They explored the areas. All they found was an abondoned +water tower that had been used in the past when a railroad ran thru this area; +also a house habited by an Apache family. No gravel roads, no towers, no +government or any other kind of installations. + Ed Conroy was the first person to research this report - He is a reporter +on arts and electronic media for the San Antonio Express News. He should be +included on your computer network. + + Betty Hill + + +--- XRS! 4.02+ + * Origin: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence (Quick 1:19/19.19) + + + +Message #6665 - UFO + Date : 14-Jun-91 22:40 + From : John Powell + To : Glenn Devlin +Subject : Hill Abduction: 5 of 7 + +The following is BBS correspondence between Barb Becker and Betty Hill. +-+--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +115/157: Betty Hill part 4 +Name: Barb Becker #106 @3466 +Date: Sat Jun 02 02:14:30 1990 + +I wrote to Mrs. Hill again and thanked her for her comments and asked if she +would like to make a statement for the BBS regarding her experience, the fol- +lowing is her response. + + +April 2, 1990 + +Dear Barbara Becker, + + I think probably the easiest way to answer your questions is to list the +events as they occured. + Let me say first, that in a case like ours, our conscious mind did not re- +member all, but our subconscious mind did. + We considered the beginning of our capture was the time when Barney was +standing in the field, watching the craft, when one of the humanoids said +something to him, resulting in his panic and running back to the car, yelling +they were trying to capture us. + As we went speeding along the highway to avoid capture, we heard the +beeping sounds, and the car vibrated. + When Barney turned into a secondary road, I thought we knew a short cut on +our way home, and did not question this. Then we saw what we called the moon +setting on the ground. We assumed the moon was setting, and we could see the +trees in front of this. + The next, Barney turned onto a dirt road, in the direction of the setting +moon. Before I could question him about this, we saw the men standing in the +road, blocking our way - and we could not remember beyond this point. + We remembered looking for the highway, but before we reached this, we saw +the craft again as it passed over the secondary road in front of us. + When we entered onto the main highway, we heard a second series of beeping +sounds. And we came home, looking for the craft all the way and not seeing it. + At home, Barney's first remark was "It is 5 o'clock, We should have been +home by 3 AM at the latest." This time was from our kitchen clock, for both +our watches had stopped running - this puzzled us, that both stopped about the +same time. + Barney began to unload our belongings from the car. We agreed they should +not be brought into the house, so they were left on the back porch for a +couple of days. + Then we took long showers, shampoos for we felt "very dirty". + We agreed that something had happened, we did not know what it was, but we +could not talk about it. We would forget about it as quickly as possible. + The next day I went out to my car, and found highly polished spots on the +trunk in a circular pattern. I became very upset, saying maybe we had been +exposed to something dangerous - the spots should be checked out. So I called +my sister who called a physist who suggested checking the spots with a +compass, which I did. When the compass was very erratic, I called my sister +again to tell her of this. At that time a police officer was at her home, and +I talked with him - told him about the night before. He said they had orders +to tell witnesses to call Pease Air Force Base and report this sighting. So we +called Pease and told them about the sighting, but ommitted about Barney +seeing the humanoids. + Our next step was to return to the Mountains, looking for a secondary road, +the dirt road, thinking if we could find these, we could remember what +happened after we saw the "men in the road". We went back regularly, in all +kinds of weather, looking but not finding the dirt road. While we were there, +we asked everyone we saw, if they ever saw any strange lights in the sky, +received hundreds of reports - meeting with groups of 50 or more at a time, +who told of their sightings, but none with an experience similar to ours, +which we did not discuss. + +--- XRS! 4.02+ + * Origin: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence (Quick 1:19/19.19) + + + +Message #6666 - UFO + Date : 14-Jun-91 22:42 + From : John Powell + To : Glenn Devlin +Subject : Hill Abduction: 6 of 7 + + About six to eight weeks after this experience, we came home one night, and +found on the kitchen table a pile of dried leaves. Our first response +was - someone has been in our home! When I began to clean up the leaves, I +found my blue ear rings I was wearing that night. That was panic - how did I +lose them and who returned them? And how did they get into our home? + Next was my dress. The second time I had worn this, and now it was covered +with a pink powdery substance. I put it outside, and the powdery substance +blew away, but it left pink stains all over my dress. Also the hem and some +seams were torn - it had a built in lining - badly torn. + To go back, to ten nights after this experience, I had a series of dreams, +for five nights, of being captured, taken on board, given a physical exam. At +that time, Barney worked midnight to 8 AM, so he was not here. I typed out +these dreams and hid them, never discussed them until the time of our hypnosis +with Dr. Simon. + As for Hohman and Jackson, they had attended some kind of Geological +Conference in Washington DC and met Donald Keyhoe there. After the Conference +they told him they had a hobby, and interest in flying saucers (the term at +that time) He let them read Walt Webb's report of his meeting with us. + Hohman wrote to us, asking to meet with us. We agreed for at than time, we +knew nothing about ufos, and we were quietly seeking some explanation for our +expereince. Hohman was from New York, and Jackson was from Alabama, so we +needed to wait until these two were together. + When they were here, Barney told them about the humanoid saying something +to him, which he could not remember - this was very upsetting to him. + We told them about the setting moon just before we turned on to the dirt +road. They said we could not have seen the moon, for it had already set. Panic +by both of us. + So they suggested we take a road map, and pinpoint our location at +different times. We knew we had left Colebrook about 10 PM, the restaurant +there. We were able to pinpoint the locations and times most of the way, but +at one point between Plymouth and Ashland was a blank. So they suggested we go +back to this general area. Then we talked about time - we could drive to +Canada in seven hours, and it had taken us seven hours to come home from +Colebrook. There had to be an explanation. Later this was called a missing +time period. But right from the beginning Barney and I knew the trip home was +much longer then it should have been. + We continued to go back to the mountains, looking for the dirt road, asking +people about their sightings. Then we began asking if anyone had ever seen the +people aboard the crafts. No. No one knew Barney had seen them and remembered +this. + As for a hallucination, I was and am a trained social worker. I know the +conditions which must exist for a hallucination to occur - for both people to +have the same one, at the same time, does not happen. Dr. Simon confirmed this +impossibility. + As for the car incident, we both became upset at the same time, but I had +already had my dreams. We were puzzled as to the reasons we responded the way +we did. + If we had not had all these upsetting events happen, without explanation, +we would had never have spent thousands of dollars going to Dr. Simon. We went +to him, to get rid of our anxieties, not for a ufo capture. He worked with us +for seven months, every week. But I learned during these sessions when he was +putting our amnesia back so we could not remember, that we must see him every +week for him to reinforce the amnesia. If we did not do this, we would +remember in about ten days - the same length of time, after this experience, +that I had my dreams. Now I know I recalled these events, in my dreams, as a +result of the lessening of their control of my memory. + +--- XRS! 4.02+ + * Origin: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence (Quick 1:19/19.19) + + + +Message #6667 - UFO + Date : 14-Jun-91 22:44 + From : John Powell + To : Glenn Devlin +Subject : Hill Abduction: 7 of 7 + + After our hypnosis, we went back to the area, and went directly to the +secondary road, to the dirt road. Found the cleared area in the woods where +the craft was down. + Since that time, three labs have tried to analyze the pink stains on my +dress without success. + I agree with you the field of UFOlogy is filled with disinformation. They +have done more to cover real activities by ufos than any other group. As for +my social worker background, I know that insecure people have a terrible time +with things they do not understand, and must develop an explanation, +satisfactory to themselves, which usually is a fantasy. I dislike the term +"missing time" for everyone has missing time. The human brain is incapable of +remembering every little detail of our lives, every moment. No one can +remember everything that happened yesterday. + I have worked with those who have been captured, and with those who would +like to think they were. Five were real captures, reported almost immediately +to the police, and in three cases, they were at the emergency room at the +hospital within three hours. Then for the others - five were beginning to be +mentally ill, were committed, diagnosed, and treated. Later, one became a +suicide. Then there are the hoaxes - I walked right thru the wall - how much +did it cost for repairs? They call back in a few days, and tell me how they +fooled the hypnotist by telling weird tales, which were believed. Finally, +there are those who are led astray by auto-suggestion, called hypnosis, by +those using it. I can take anyone, and in fifteen minutes, thru a simple +exercise can give them a ufo capture. But I am sure that they know it is only +a "Flight of Fantasy". But it is the same kind of "hypnosis" others are using. +It is not the hypnosis we had. We had the kind that is used in surgery. I +would like to see all those who use the wrong kind, try to do some simple +medical procedures. + So many try to copy my experiences, so Dr. Simon wrote a segment about +hypnosis, the types, testing and characteristics. No one apparently read or +understood this section, pages 82 thru 85, for they ignore this. Unfortunately +it is ruining the field of hypnosis, which does have good medical uses. + I went to a conference of so-called abductees. One told of her experiences, +right out of Star Trek. She took on the part played by Capt. Kirk. Used the +same names as in the tv program. Later we told her this, so she went back and +had "hypnosis" again and came up with a different capture. Such success. Such +fairy tales they tell. + Thanks for letting me set the record straight. Some times I have heard my +experiences told in such a way, I did not recognize it. + + Sincerely, + Betty (signed) + Betty Hill +-+--- End of File ----------------------------------------------------------- + +Thanks, take care. +John. + + +--- XRS! 4.02+ + * Origin: Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence (Quick 1:19/19.19) + +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3042.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3042.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b8b471ad --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3042.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@ +SUBJECT: THE EVIDENCE FOR ALIEN ABDUCTIONS FILE: UFO3042 + + + + + +I have been reading a book called _The Evidence For ALien ABductions_ +by John Rimmer C. 1984... + +I would like to summarize and\or quote an experiment and the results. + +The experiment was conducted by Alvin Lawson and William McCall. + +The concept was to be able to distinguish the abduction info given +during hypnotic regression between a real abduction and a hoax(the +reason for the hoax for this particular experiment was irrelevent). They +wanted a database of info that could distinguish real data from +imaginary data. + +"They began by locating a number of people who would be willing to +participate in their experiments, but who knew little or nothing about +UFOs - possibly a rather difficult task in Southern California where +they operated...These...subjects were then 'led into' a UFO abduction +scenario by means of a carefully designed series of leading questions, +which suggested the bare outlines of the abduction but left the subject +free to fill in the details. These details would come...from the +witnesses' own imaginations. They would then be able to compare the +imaginary abductions with th real events, and by a comparison of the +differences between the two, would be able to gain valuable clues to use +when trying to sort out any hoaxes in the cases that came to them as UFO +researchers." + +One interjection here- how did they know that there supposed known- the +so-called 'real' abductions were in fact, real abductions? Not saying +the supposed real were not real, but no comment in the text +mentioned this point. I took the assumption that their real database +were witnesses who were not led into the abduction or prior cases, +possibly by other researchers. + +"...But the experiments went spectacularly wrong...what happened was +that the 'imaginary' stories were quite indistinguishable from the +'real' experiences, even down to tiny details..." + +The text then goes further into the stereotyped abductee, some of the +stories the witnesses gave, etc...until the text leads into the +researchers conclusion, "Birth Trauma Hypothesis." + +The point here is it is very difficult to distinguish between an actual +abduction(if in fact they do occur) and the imagination. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3043.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3043.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b87de45f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3043.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +SUBJECT: ABDUCTION NOTES BY JOHN CARPENTER FILE: UFO3043 + + + + + +Extract from MUFON JOURNAL No. 300 - April 1993 + +Copyright 1993 by the Mutual UFO Network, 103 Oldtowne Rd., +Seguin, Texas 78155. + +Article - 'Abduction Notes' by John Carpenter. + + ..."Then there is the insectoid/grasshopper/praying mantis +type that seems to also oversee or direct activity in a +supervisory role. Why would anyone imagine a large bug +directing an abduction experience? Is this something we would +hope for or desire to see? Subjects sense a higher level of +wisdom and functioning in this type of entity. Whatever its +purpose or origin, we certainly need further study. I +encourage those of you who have either experienced such +oddities or have researched these types, to begin dumping out +your gray baskets and sharing this bizarre data. Only in +response to this column or in sharing the data openly with each +other can we begin to get a better grasp on these unusual types +of beings and how they may fit into the larger puzzle of the +abduction phenomenon. Please respond!" + + ***End*** + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3044.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3044.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e22d3413 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3044.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +SUBJECT: OMNI ABDUCTEE OPPRESSION FILE: UFO3044 + + + + +Reprinted from Omni Magazine: July 1993 + + + ABDUCTEE OPPRESSION + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + Harvard psychiatrist John Mack says UFO abductees should avoid debunkers like +the plague. "It's fine to study abductees and present a skeptical point of +view," Mack says. But those who criticize abductees can be vicious about it, +Mack believes -- so much so that their verbal attacks amount to abuse. + + In fact, Mack contends, UFO abductees are a legitimate minority group whose +rights are violated at every turn. Mack is so incensed over the treatment his +abductee/patients have received that he suggests they no longer come in contact +with debunkers at all. + + Putting debunkers on TV shows with abductees, according to Mack, "is like +interviewing Holocaust survivors along with skeptics who say the Holocaust +never occurred." + + Still, political scientist and minority-rights expert Opuku Agyeman of +Montclair State College in New Jersey hesitates to put abductees in the same +class as a legitimate minority. He says that just making people feel +uncomfortable for holding a particular view does not violate their rights; it's +an example of free speech. + + Abductees would be considered a bona fide minority, he states, only if their +views were called deplorable and unacceptable and if they were punished as a +result. + + Omni Mag. --- Paul McCarthy + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3045.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3045.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..116c4dd9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3045.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +SUBJECT: ADVENT'S REPLY TO PARANET FILE: UFO3045 + + + + +Area: 33 UFO +From: JACK MATHIAS +To: ALL Date: 08-12-92 10:53 +Subj :Advent's Reply to paranet + + +The following is Advent's reply to ParaNet. I am only acting as relay. +August 12, 1992 + +To: Mr. Michael Corbin + ParaNet Information Service + +From: Advent Publishing Company and + Richard T. Miller + +A message from you, made public on many BBS's and pertaining mainly +to the Phoenix Project, was brought to my attention. In that +message you mention my name, the name of my company, and try to +create an impression that I am involved in some type of activity +and have relationships with others that is questionable. + +You state in your message: "based on striking and suggestive +circumstances," that there is a possible connection between myself, +Advent Publishing Company, and another publisher - known as America +West and one of their publications "The Phoenix Liberator." You +fail to clearly label your statements, or your presumptions, as +"pure" speculation. I find your technique of using such +speculation, and the end-result of that usage - guilt by +implication - very offensive. + +The statement I refer to is - whether I am, or my company is, +another incarnation of America West and their people. The answer is +an emphatic - no. + +Let me set the record straight. I am a semi-retired electronic and +radio and television broadcast engineer. I am also the sole owner +of Advent Publishing Company. This Company is registered as a sole +proprietorship, in Carson County, State of Nevada. I operate this +business to occupy my spare time and to supplement my retirement +income. Neither myself, or my Company has any connection with +America West Publishing, their publication the "Phoenix Liberator," +or any of their numerous publications. I do not know them, and I +have never had any dealings with them. + +It should be perfectly clear and very obvious from what I've +stated, that I find the activities of America West and the content +of the "Phoenix Liberator" thoroughly disgusting. And that, Mr. +Corbin, is the overwhelming reason for my use of a strong +disclaimer, disavowing any relationship or affiliation with the +above named organization, its publications, and their known +principals. + +You also raise the question as to whether I am the same Richard +Miller who, many years ago, communicated with an individual known +as Hatonn and started an organization known as the Solar Cross. + +My answer may startle you. Yes I am, and yes I did. However, I +have not been active in such activities for many years. I am +answering this question only because of your attempt to make an +onerous association between myself and America West, and the +"Phoenix Liberator." An association that doesn't exist. + +I can state, however, without reservation, that the "Phoenix +Liberator" is fraudulently using the name Hatonn and claiming he is +the source of their information. They have used the name of a +respected Being as a "drawing card" to entice the innocent and lend +a degree of credibility to the rubbish they publish. + +I am not the only one who might feel this way. In closing let me +quote a paragraph in a message sent to Jack Mathias by Don Allen, +regarding America West and the "Phoenix Liberator," on Fido_UFO: + +"Jack - Received your message and here is something to mull over. +Just remember that people who claim to channel "Higher Entities" +should be judged not only on their words, but also by their actions +and ethics. I have read a considerable amount of "Hatonn's" +material and it does not leave me feeling edified, uplifted or +enlightened. It is very condemnatory. It is, I submit, not of the +Light. These aren't the words of a "Christed being"...they are +Cooperish rantings from quick buck con artists and most likely the +"entity" that Dharma" is "channelling" (If "Hatonn" exists at all) +is most definitely some lower/dark astral being. By their fruits +ye shall know them." + +RTM +--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3046.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3046.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ddec3ad7 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3046.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,256 @@ +SUBJECT: ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE CLASSIFICATION FILE: UFO3046 + + + + + +Abduction Experience Classification + + By : Richard D. Butler + + The following is a brief description of the most commonly +reported abduction experience types. + +It is intended to provide a standard of classification in +abduction research. + + [AE-1] LUCID DREAM + +This is a lucid dream experience generated internally by the +subject+s subconscious. There is no Human/ET interaction at any +level. They are usually grandiose in nature and lack a logical +progression. + + [AE-2] TECHNO/TELEPATHIC LUCID DREAM + +This is a lucid dream experience, internally generated by +external forces. It is ET in origin and accomplished by +technologically enhanced psychic intrusion of the subject+s +subconscious. The subject reports the disassociation ,or +collapse of, a normal dream and the insertion of a scenario or +message which enhances certain ideals or beliefs. If the subject +awakens immediately after, they report a circle of glowing +whitish colored energy on the ceiling, approximately 2 to 3 feet +in diameter, with a shaft of the same energy slowly retracting +back into the circle. This shaft is approximately 3 to 6 inches +in diameter and 2.5 to 4 feet long. + + [AE-3] PSY/BIO ENERGY FIELD EXTRACTION + +This experience involves the extraction of a conscious energy +field from the subject+s body. It should not be confused with +naturally occurring OOBE phenomena, as separation is externally +induced. The technology employs the use of a white or +bluish-white colored extraction beam. Subjects describe a +feeling of deep penetration of this beam throughout their body, +followed by the sensation of an irresistible or attractive +force. The extracted field maintains cohesion, and is capable of +perceiving stimuli at a greatly enhanced level. Perceptions +include 360 degree sight and sensory feedback at the molecular, +and even atomic level. Experiences seem to focus around +communications and reinsertion of the bio-field into a humanoid +body other than the original. It is this type of abduction that +accounts for the severe missing time memory failure in some +cases. + +Since the subject+s brain is not physically present, the +memories are not hard-written. There does appear to be a shadow +memory effect that can retain the memories of the events in some +type of energy memory matrix, within the subjects bio-field. +Full understanding of this process could lead to breakthroughs +in education and learning technologies. + + [AE-4] PHYSICAL ABDUCTION + +This is the physical removal of a subject from their environment +to an ET environment. The subject is first tranquilized to +reduce possible injury to either side. These abductions follow a +very strict military-like protocol. Subjects are transported via +a small shuttle, lifting beam or direct transfer. Direct +transfer utilizes a hyper-dimensional tunnel. It will appear as +a large brilliant white energy gate. The subject steps through +the gate and is instantly aboard the craft. Also reported is the +nullification of the nuclear repulsive forces in solid objects. +This allows the subject to physically pass through solid +objects. Once onboard, the person is subjected to various +physical tests and procedures. The main thrust is in the genetic +experimentation area. Reports of sperm and ovum extraction are +quite common. After these procedures are performed, the subject +is returned unharmed, to their original location. A screen +memory is then inserted into the subject+s subconscious. This +slightly shifts the reality recalled by the abductee but never +erases the event entirely. This distinguishes them from [AE-3]. + + [AE-5] PAST LIFE RECALL + +These experiences are the least reported and the most +interesting, in terms of their implications. They appear to +represent events in the experience of an ET life form. Subjects +relate being in an underground military facility, sometimes on +Mars, the Moon and even under the Earth's oceans. + +Memories of being onboard a spacecraft and other ET environments +are also recalled. What is so interesting is that the subject +views this, not from an Earth human perspective, but from that +of an ET. This suggests two very interesting possibilities. A.) +During telepathic communication some memories are subconsciously +transferred. B.) The subject is recalling actual past life +memories of their own. This second possibility opens the door to +much speculation. It suggests that part of the abduction +phenomena may be a, massive and covert, reconnaissance +operation. It may also explain why the Greys have said they have +the right to do what they do. If abductees are souls that have +been transferred from the ET environment to Earth, then +technically they are not abducting human beings but volunteer +ETs. + + + +CLASSIFICATION OF OBSERVED UFO OCCUPANTS + +by Richard Butler + +-And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our +likeness....+ Genesis, Chapter 1, Verse 26 + +-And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of +the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the Sons of +God saw the daughters of men, that they were fair; and they took +them wives of all which they chose... There were giants in the +earth in those days; and also after that, when the Sons of God +came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to +them....+ Genesis, Chapter 6, Verses 1,2,4 + +[GROUP A]-NON EARTH BORN HOMO SAPIENS + +This group consists of three being types from three distinct +colony zones, namely Sirius, Pleiades and Orion. Genetically, +they are nearly identical to Terran humans with the following +exceptions. Abductees refer to these beings as the -talls.+ +Males average uo to seven feet in height; females, up to six and +a half feet. They are extremely fine featured, pale in +complexion. Eyes are almond shaped, slightly slanted with a +natural black liner, much like Egyptians. There are three hair +colors apparently related to colony origin: blonde (Pleiades), +black (Orion), and red (Sirius). The insignia of these combined +human races is a triangular arrangement of three spheres. This +symbol has deep significance, and is found throughout Terran +history. History records these beings as goddesses, gods, devas, +etc. A subgroup of Group A females is in command of most Terran +projects. + +GROUP B-TERRAN HUMANS + +These are Homo Sapiens whose origin is the planet Earth. They +can be divided into two separate classes. + +Class A (Ancient)-These humans were the companions and house +servants of a Group A military mining and occupation force. When +this force left the Earth sometime between 1,000 B.C. and 2,000 +B.C., it was decided to remove all humans that had been in close +proximity with them. It was felt that leaving them would only +further disrupt normal human development. Class A humans are on +an equal level with Group A and cooperate fully in all Terran +projects. + +Class M (Modern)-These humans are working on the same +cooperative level as Class A. They were taken from the Earth in +modern times. During some abduction projects, twins (either +identical or fraternal) are induced in a female subject. During +the first trimester, one of the fetuses is removed. It is then +grown to maturity by Group A. Abductees will meet their twins +during some abductions. Very limited contact has been made by +these humans. + +[GROUP C]- GENETICALLY MODIFIED TERRAN HUMANS + +These humans are comprised of two classes and should not be +confused with Group D Greys. + +[Class W] (Workers)-This class is the smallest in physical +stature. They are described as approximately three and a half +feet in height, large head and eyes, pale white in complexion. +these workers were created by Group A through genetic +modification of Terran human fetuses. Their function is to +perform menial tasks requiring limited reasoning abilities. In +mental capacity, they are equivalent to a five year old child. +They are incapable of violence and, in come cases, are kept as +companions by Group A individuals. + +[Class T] (Technicians)-These humans are basically the same as +Class W. they are slightly larger, at approximately four and a +half feet in height. Their complexion is tan or yellowish. Their +reasoning and deductive powers are higher. This allows them to +perform more complex operations. They are often seen operating +ship controls and in transport activities. Both Classes W and T +are telepathically camouflaged to appear as Greys by abductees. +This is done to conceal the true nature of Group C. It is felt +that perception of Group A maintaining a human slave population +would hinder future contact efforts. This point will undoubtedly +be a source of much heated debate in the near future. + +[GROUP D]-GREYS + +Of the six groups discussed in this paper, the Greys appear to +represent the only non-human contingent. The following data +should be considered tentative at best. Height is approximately +five and a half feet. The head is large; eyes large, black and +very slanted. Skin color is dark grey and non-porous. All data +so far indicates that they may be a cetacean-based life form. On +Earth, this comprises the species of whales and dolphins. +Descriptions of Greys+ skin color and texture closely match that +of dolphins. The stare and stun effects approximate that +performed by dolphins on potential enemies, such as sharks and +barracuda. + +Human and dolphin fetuses are nearly identical, up to a certain +development stage. Some say they share a common genetic +ancestor. If so, then this makes the hybridization of human and +dolphins theoretically feasible. + +There are two possibilities concerning the origin of the Greys. +The first is that a cetacean life form evolved on another +planet. Unlike Terran cetaceans, they did not return to the +oceans. The second possibility involves the genetic modification +of Terran cetaceans by Group A. When Group created workers in +ancient times, they may have used the two most evolved species +available. These would have been pre-humans and dolphins. There +is evidence for this in ancient writing, sculptures and +paintings. they show a close relationship between the gods +(Group A) and dolphins. In South America, there are ruins which +appear to have been massive water enclosures. could these have +been the breeding pens of the Greys? + +[GROUP E]-HUMAN/GREY HYBRIDS + +One of the main ET projects, now in the completion stage, is the +hybrid program. The goal of this project is to produce a being +combining the best physical and mental qualities of both races. +The following description is of a hybrid female, approximately +fifteen years old. Height is five feet, three inches; skin color +is pale white/grey. the head is slightly larger and rounder than +normal. Hair is dark, high above the forehead, and worn in a +very long ponytail. The face is very fine-featured, and +attractive. Like all the beings discussed in this paper, her +method of communication is telepathic. This has allowed a deeper +understanding of her intellectual and emotional make-up. They +consider themselves human, not Grey, in almost all respects. +They care about the Greys, as any child would a parent, but find +them agonizingly boring. The desire for human contact is greater +than all others. Their capacity for emotion is as great, if not +greater than, humans. Any physical attribute more human than +Grey is a great source of pride. their intellectual capacity is +well above human standards. It is very likely they will exceed +the capabilities of both races. + +[GROUP F]-SASQUATCH + +These have been seen both near, and on-board, UFOs. Little is +known about them. Some have speculated that they are the +original pre-human species from which Homo Sapiens were derived. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3047.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3047.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..cd117b03 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3047.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +SUBJECT: ZIMBABWE, AFRICA FILE: UFO3047 + + + + + + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 10-28-1985 + Subject: ZIMBABWE, AFRICA + +CASE TYPE: CE I-RV IDENTIFIED + DATE: 22 OCTOBER 1985 + TIME: 0322 HOURS BY NETWORK + CFN#: 0138 REFER TO 0085,0091 + SOURCE: MS. CYNTHIA HINDS + -------------------------------------- +PLEASE REFER THIS CASE INFORMATION TO REPORTS 85 AND 91 ON THIS SYSTEM. THE +TWO CASES WERE REPORTED IN AUGUST THE 2,1985. THE SIGHTING TOOK PLACE IN +ZIMBABWE AFRICA. MS. CYNTHIA HINDS HAS SENT SEVERAL NEWS REPERS FROM AFRICA +ABOUT THE SIGHTING TO THE NETWORK. THE NEWS PAPERS STATED THE UFO THAT WAS +REPORTED ON THE 2ND OF AUGUST 85 HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE ZIMBABWE AIR FORCE. +THEY SAID THAT THE UFO WAS A FRENCH AIR BALLOON USER TO GATHER WEATHER +INFORMATION. + ------------------------------------- + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3048.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3048.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..90f575a6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3048.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,184 @@ +SUBJECT: THE SOUTH AFRICAN UFO CRASH RETRIEVAL INCIDENT FILE: UFO3048 + + + + + +------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + PLACE: The Kalahari Desert in South Africa + DATE : May 7, 1989 + TIME : 1359H GMT +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ + + CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET-DO NOT DIVULGE + + CASE HISTORY + + At 13H45 GMT on 7 May 1989 the naval frigate xxxxxx radioed Cape Town +Naval headquarters to report an unidentified flying object that appeared on +radar scopes, heading toward the African continent in a north westerly +direction at a calculated speed of 5746 nautical miles per hour. Naval +headquarters acknowledged and confirmes that object was also tracked by air- +born radar, military ground radar installations and D.F. Malan international +airport at Cape Town. + + The object entered South African air space at 13H52 GMT. Radio +contact was attempted with object, but all communications to object proved +futile. Valhalla air force base was notified and two armed Mirage fighters +were scrambled. The object suddenly changed course at great speed which would +be impossible for military aircraft to duplicate. + + At 13H59 GMT squadron leader xxxxxx reported that that had radar +and visual confirmation of the object. The order was given to arm and fire +the two experimental aircraft mounted THOR 2 laser canon at object. +This was done. + + Squadron leader xxxxxx reported that several blinding flashes +eminated from the object. The object started wavering whilst still heading +in a northerly direction. at 14H02 it was reported that the object was +decreasing altitude at a rate of 3000 feet per minute. Then at great speed +it dived at an angle of 25 degrees and impacted in desert terrain 80km. north +of South African border with Botswana, identified as the Central Kalahari +Desert. Squadron leader xxxxxx was instructed to circle the area until a +retrevil of the object was complete. A team of airforce intelligence officers +together with medical and technical staff were promptly taken to area of +impact for investigation and retreival. + + The findings were as follows: + + 1) A crater of 150 meters in diameter and 12 meters in depth + + 2) A silver coloured dick shaped object 45 degrees embedded in + side of crater. + + 3) Around object sand and rock were fused together by the + intense heat. + + 4) An intense magnetic and radioactive environment around object + resulted in electronic failure in airforce equipment. + + 5) It was suggested by team leader that object be moved to a + classified airforce base for further investigation and this was + done. + + The terrain of impact was filled with sand and rubble to disguise + all evidence of this event having ever taken place. + + Page 2 + + NOTE: THIS IS THE SECOND PAGE OF THE TOP SECRET SOUTH AFRICAN PROJECT BLACK + HORSE. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ + +TYPE OF CRAFT: UNKNOWN SUSPECTED EXTRATERRESTRIAL +ORIGIN : UNKNOWN -SUSPECTED EXTRATERRESTRIAL +IDENTIFIBLE MARKINGS: NONE - CURIOUS INSIGNIA FORGED INTO SIDE OF CRAFT +DIMENSIONS: LENGTH- 20 YARDS APPROX. + HEIGHT- 9.5 YARDS APPROX. + WEIGHT- 50,000 KILOGRAMS APPROX. +MATERIAL CONSTRUCTION: UNKNOWN -PENDING LABORATORY RESULTS + OUTER SURFACE OF OBJECT FLAWLESS POLISHED, SMOOTH SILVER + COLOR. NO VISIBLE SEAMS NOTED ON OUTER SURFACE OF CRAFT +SOURSE OF PROPULSION: UNKNOWN -PENDING LABORATORY RESULTS + +NOTES: A HYDRAULIC TYPE LANDING GEAR WAS FULLY DEPLOYED SUGGESTING THAT + ELECTRONIC MALFUNCTION HAD CAUSED THE OBJECT TO CRASH. THIS MAY HAVE + BEEN DUE TO THE THOR-2 LASER CANNON FIRED AT THE CRAFT. + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Two humanoid entities were found in the craft after the object was + opened up with hydraulic pressure equipment. + + PRELIMINARY MEDICAL REPORT ON HUMANOID ENTITIES + ------------------------------------------------ + +ORIGIN: UNKNOWN- SUSPECTED EXTRATERRESTRIAL +HEIGHT: 4 - 4.5 FT. +COMPLEXION: GRAYISH BLUE-SKIN TEXTURE SMOOTH, EXTREMELY RESILIENT . +HAIR: TOTALLY DEVOID OF ANY BODILY HAIR. +HEAD: OVERSIZE IN RELATION TO HUMAN PROPORTIONS. RAISED CRANIUM WITH DARK BLUE + MARKINGS EXTENDING AROUND HEAD. +FACE: PROMINENT CHEEK BONES +EYES: LARGE AND SLANTED UPWARDS TOWARDS SIDE OF FACE -NO PUPILS SEEN - +NOSE: CONSISTING OF TWO NOSTRILS. +MOUTH: SMALL SLIT DEVOID OF LIPS +JAW: SMALL IN RELATION TO HUMAN PROPORTION. +EARS: NONE OBSERVED. +NECK: VERY THIN IN RELATION TO HUMAN PROPORTION . +BODY/ARMS: LONG AND THIN REACHING JUST ABOVE THE KNEES. +HANDS: CONSISTING OF 3 DIGITS, WEBBED, CLAW LIKE NAILS. +TORSO: CHEST AND ABDOMEN COVERES IN SCALY RIBBED SKIN. +HIPS: SMALL NARROW +LEGS: SHORT AND THIN +GENTITALS: NO EXTERIOR SEXUAL ORGANS. +FEET: CONSISTING OF THREE TOES, NO NAILS AND WEBBED. + +NOTE: DUE TO THE AGGRESIVE NATURE OF THE HUMANOIDS, NO SAMPLES OF BLOOD OR + TISSUE COULD BE TAKEN. (ONE HUMANOID ATTACKED THE DOCTOR CAUSING DEEP + SCRATCH MARKS ON FACE AND CHEST.) + WHEN OFFERED VARIOUS FOODS- REFUSED TO EAT + +METHOID OF COMMUNICATION: SUSPECTED TELEPATHIC. + +HUMANOIDS ARE BEING KEPT IN DETENTION AT LEVAL 6 OF AIRFORCE BASE. + + + One way passage has been requested for both humanoids to Wright-Patterson +AFB for more advanced investigation and and research . + A) No conclusion has been reached. Awaiting results of investigations + + B) The object and humanoids will be moved to Wright-Patterson AFB + for more advanced investigation and research. + + C) Date of passage- 23 June 1989 + + +------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + NOTES AND UPDATES ON SOUTH AFRICAN SITUATION -ROBERT N. WRIGHT + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + A year has passed since the first reports started filtering in to us on +the South African crash retrieval case. Most of what we hear on this case +smacks of dis-information but for the sake of reporting all new developments +on the ufo scene, it must be reported. + DURING THE RETRIVAL ATTEMPT TWO SOUTH AFRICAN COPTERS CRASHED DUE TO + A REPORTED ENERGY FIELD SUROUNDING THE CRAFT, ALL CREW MEMBERS PERISHED + IN THE RETRIVAL ATTEMPT. + + A PARTICAL BEAM WEAPON CALLED THE THOR II LASER CANNON, AN EXPERIMENTAL + WEAPON WAS USED TO BRING THE CRAFT DOWN. IT WAS MOUNTED ON A MIRAGE + FIGHTER. + + EARLIER REPORTS OF US MILITARY PERSONEL ON BOARD THIS UFO HAVE PROVEN + UNFOUNDED. + + THE UNITED STATES WORKED OUT A DEAL WITH THE SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT + INVOLVING ADVANCED WEAPONS IN EXCHANGE FOR THE DOWNED UFO AND THE + ALIENS. + + THERE WAS SUPPOSEDLY A THIRD ALIEN WHO WAS KILLED WHEN THE UFO WAS + BROUGHT DOWN BY THE PARTICAL BEAM WEAPON, + + SOUTH AFRICAN INTELLIGENCE OFFICER'S COVER IS BLOWN HIS NAME IS + CAPTAIN JAMES VAN GRUNEN, HE HAS SINCE DEFECTED AND IS LIVING IN + GERMANY. REPORTEDLY IT IS HE WHO FIRST EXPOSED PROJECT BLACK HORSE. + + THE UFO WAS ALSO TRACKED ON RADAR BY NORAD ON MAY 7, 1989 + + THE HUMANOIDS WERE MOVED FROM SOUTH AFRICA TO WRIGHT-PATTERSON IN + A COOLING UNIT TO MAKE THEM LESS ACTIVE AND AGRESSIVE. + + HIEROGLYPHIC WRITING WAS FOUND ON THE SAUCER AND ON VARIOUS CRAFT PARTS + IT IS RUMORED THAT CRYPTOLOISTS HAVE DECIPHERED THE ALIENS ALPHABET . + + + IF ANYONE HAS INFORMATION ON THIS CASE PLEASE UPLOAD SOME FILES OR LEAVE +E-MAIL FOR ME THROUGH L.A.B.B.(LANCASTER AREA BULLETIN BOARD)(717)394-1357 +ROBERT WRIGHT. + ROBERT N. WRIGHT + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3049.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3049.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..03316b0b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3049.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +SUBJECT: CALL FOR ABSTRACTS, AIR FORCE STUDY FILE: UFO3049 + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 + + CALL FOR ABSTRACTS + + AIR FORCE STUDY + on + Technology and Innovative Applications of Space Hardware + +The United States Air Force is conducting a study to identify +creative technologies and innovative applications of hardware that +will support national security well into the next century. Air +University at Maxwell AFB, Alabama is chairing the study, which +will be called SPACECAST 2020. The product will recommend specific +technologies and applications that have the greatest potential. + +Included in the first phase of this effort is the solicitation of +"brainstorming" abstracts from government agencies, industry, +academia, and private individuals. The Air Force Institute of +Technology at Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio will handle these +abstracts for the study. Abstracts are needed in three areas: + + 1. Emerging research technologies that, if exploited, can + significantly improve the capabilities of our space systems + (to include satellite design, reliability, remote sensing, + data processing, power production, stealth, etc.). + + 2. Innovative space systems and applications for military + purposes. + + 3. Prior studies and briefings on future military space + systems. + +If you have information in these areas, please provide one-page +abstracts that include: + + 1. A brief description of the concept. + + 2. Your understanding of the concept's military application + and associated technical risks and tradeoffs. + + 3. Your name and how you can be contacted. + +Please remember the emphasis is on NEW or INNOVATIVE technologies +and uses for systems that could be fielded by the year 2020. Also, +please limit responses to one abstract per page with classification +no higher than SECRET. Your support is appreciated. + +Abstract submittal by 15 October 1993 is requested. However, +abstracts submitted by 1 March 1994 will be included in the study. +Please submit abstracts to: + + AU SPACE STUDY TECHNOLOGY TEAM + AFIT/ENA (AFIT/ENAS if abstract is classified) + 2950 P STREET + WRIGHT-PATTERSON AFB OH 45433-7765 + + EMAIL: AUSPACE@AFIT.AF.MIL + FAX: DSN 986-7302 or (513) 476-7302 + PHONE: DSN 785-7210 or (513) 255-7210 +-- +Lt Col TS Kelso Deputy Chief, Technology Assessment Team +tkelso@afit.af.mil Spacecast 2020 +auspace@afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology +=========================================================================== + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3050.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3050.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..25d78fde --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3050.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,140 @@ +SUBJECT: ALIENS ATTEND FUNERAL FILE: UFO3050 + + + + +Message number 3296 in "MUFONET: MUFON Member's Worldwide" + +Date: 12-29-92 07:50 + +From: TREVOR RIDGE + +To: All + +Subj: Aliens attend funeral + + + +I found this interesting piece the other day. + + + +UFO Alien Rescues Girl Buried Alive + +Kindhearted Aliens swooped down and rescued a young girl from being buried + +alive just as her coffin was being lowered into the ground. + + + +As the priest gave the final blessing over the body of Teresa Saravia 17 an + +enormous UFO appeared over the gravesite in a cemetry near Barboza in the + +Phillipines scattering the terrified funeral procession. + + + +GRUSOME + +Eyewitnesses say that the graft hovered over the coffin, which was suspened + +in mid-air and lowered a gangplank to the ground. + +Eusebio Malanipa, Teresa's Uncle and one of the pall bearers, says three + +aliens descended and exmanined the casket. One of the three four-foot-tall + +extraterrestrials then guided the coffin from the grave withj a device + +that "looked like a remote control + +from a television panel. I was so frightened that I couldn't move", he + +says. "I thought they were on some kind of gruesome kidnap mission and + +that we were next. + +The Alien being then held the gadget over the coffin and the lid came up. I + +couldn't bear the thought of them disturbing the remains of my poor little + +niece. + + + +SAVED. + +"The Alien waved that gizmo again and suddenly my niece sat up. I thought I + +was going to have a heart attack. She was as alive as you and me. Poor Teresa + +was bewildered, here she was sitting in a coffin over her grave with three + +strange looking creatures smiling at her like she was some sort of prize + +catch. When she realised that she was neither dead or sleeping she let out a + +wail that made those little extraterrestrials nearly jump out of their + +skins. They didn't know what to make of it. Here they had saved her from + +certain death and she was crying like she had lost her mother. + +"Mama Mama",, she sobbed. Her mother heard the cries even though she had run + +away. She rushed back to the grave and lifted her daughter out of the coffin + +without so much as a glance at the aliens. Then suddenly she realized that + +these funny little men and had saved her daughter and proceeded to hug them. + +This was too much for the extraterrestrials. They beat a hasty retreat to + +their ladder, quickly scurried up the gangpank and dissappeared in the UFO. + +The craft had gone in seconds and everyone who had run away came back to + +celebrate Teresa's return from the dead. + +Government officials are investigating the astonishing mission of mercy, but + +there is no need for any inquiry as far as Mrs Saravia and Teresa are + +concerned. + +"Those little men are perfect angels," says Mrs Savavia. "We would have + +buried my little Terresa alive if it had not been for them. I think that they + +should investigate the bonedheaded doctors who said my loverly daughter was + +dead. I think that they are the ones that should be buried alive. Just let + +them see how it feels." + +Plucky Teresa - a real life sleeping beauty - has been quick to shake of the + +terrifying experience. + +" I was scared when I woke up in that box, but I know my mama will never let + +that happen again. I wish those strange men could come back again so that I + +could thank them. I was afraid of them at first, but I am not any more. + + + +It seems that this group of aliens earned their "brownie points" for the day. + +Maybe they do really care? + + + +Trevo + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. 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FILE: UFO3051 + + +PART 1 + + + Report #: 213 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 01-28-1987 + Subject: ANCHORAGE, AK + +CASE TYPE: CE II - RV * + DATE: 17 NOVEMBER 1986 + TIME: 07:35 HOURS + CFN#: 0335 + DURATION: 30:MINUTES +WITNESSES: THREE + SOURCE: AP - ASSOCIATED PRESS, NEW YORK + ------------------------------ +NEW YORK A Japan Air Liner pilot who claimed to have seen an Unidentified +Flying Object over Alaska last Novenber was probably seeing an unusually bright +image of the planet Jupiter, an investigator said yesterday. + +Philip Klass said astronomical calculations show that on Nov. 17, when the UFO, +Jupiter was extremely bright and was visible precisely where the pilot reported +that he saw the UFO. + +Mars was just below and to the right of Jupiter, and may explain the pilot's +initial report that he saw two lights, Klass said. Klass, an editor with the +magazine Aviation Week and Space - Technology and a longtime investigator of +UFO sightings, said the pilot's claims that the object followed him as he made +a 360 degree turn are contradicted by what he told fight controllers. + +John Leyden, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration in Washington, +quoted from a summary of conversations between the pilot's and ground +controllers in which the pilot reported losing sight of the object after +completing his turn. The object then reppeared in a few monents, according to +the summary. + +The pilot, Capt. Kenjyu Terauchi, was over Alaska en route from Europe, via +Iceland, to Tokyo when he claimed to have sighted the object. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3053.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3053.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..65300290 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3053.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,660 @@ +SUBJECT: THE BIELEK INTERVIEW FILE: UFO3053 + + + + + + +Hi All! +Yet another topic ported from the Matrix to you my friends on Compuserve. +enjoy +C Ya +Xan + +Message-Id: +Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 08:10:40 GMT +From: rkrouse@netcom.com (Robert K. Rouse) +Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) +Subject: The Bielek Interview +Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo +Lines: 631 + +INTERVIEW: Al Bielek Conducted by Suanne Konicov + +from CONNECTING LINK issue 19 + + + + + + I have heard Al Bielek speak on the "Philadelphia +Experiment " at several expos over the last two years. The +material he presents is both astounding and appalling! Last +September, at the Los Angeles Whole Life Expo, Al consented to +do an interview for Connecting Link. + + First you will read Alls account of the years leading up to +the "Philadelphia Experiment. " Then, for the first time in any +magazine, Al shares further information on other, less known +experiments that continue to this day. Experiments that took +place, and apparently, still do, at Montauk, Long Island. + + + + Alfred Bielek was born on August 4, 1916 as Edward A. +Cameron II, son of Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr. + + + + My father (Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr.) enlisted in the +U.S. Navy prior to the U.S. entry into World War 1. He sired me +and later A. Duncan Cameron, Jr. (May 1917), by different +mothers. + + Both Duncan and 1, as half-brothers, were raised largely by +Aunt Arnold in the Big House, still in West Islip, Long Island +(father remained in the Navy until 1930, when he was retired +with a pension). Since there was no lack of money (due to the +Arnold/Constable Department Store fortune), Duncan Jr. and I +(upon completion of high school) attended different +universities. I went first to Princeton, and later to Harvard, +obtaining a Ph.D. in physics. Duncan attended the University of +Edinborough (Edinborough, Scotland), also obtaining a Ph.D. in +physics, in the summer of 1939. + + In September of 1939, both Duncan and I enlisted in the +U.S. Navy-taking commissions as Lt. (J.G.) and then attending a +90-day training school for "Special Assignment" Navy personnel +at Providence, Rhode Island. + +With completion of training, we were both assigned to the +Institute of Advanced Study (Princeton, N.J.) and directly to +the ongoing "Project Invisibility." + + With a completely successful test in 1940 (Brooklyn Navy +Yard), the project was classified and renamed "Project Rainbow." +Offices were set up in the Philadelphia Navy Yard. Duncan and I +both shuttled back and forth between Philadelphia and Princeton. + + In January 1941, we were sent to sea for sea duty on the +U.S.S. Pennsylvania. We toured the Pacific until October 194 1, +when the Pennsylvania was put in dry dock at Pearl Harbor. +After taking leave in San Francisco and remaining there through +December 1941, we were returned to the Institute early in +January 1942. We worked on the project through 1942-Nikola +Tesla dropped out in March 1942, and Dr. John Von Neumann took +over at that time. + +Duncan and I remained with the Project through the two tests in +1943 with the "Eldridge." The second test, August 12, 1943, was +a total disaster, with many casualties and with Duncan +disappearing permanently. + + I remained with the Navy and married in late 1943. A son, +Jess, was bom in February 1944. In July 1944, the family and I +were transferred to Los Alamos, New Mexico, where I remained +until July 2, 1947. At that time I was forcibly removed and +separated from my family-never to see them again. + + With charges of espionage placed against me, I expected a +General Court Marshal. Instead I was transferred to Washington, +D. C., whereupon charges were dropped and I was transferred to +Montauk, L.I. military base (Fort Hero). From that point I was +time shifted to 1983, back in the Phoenix Project. Once there, +I was given a super brainwashing-all memory was removed. +Additionally, I was age regressed (reduction of physical age and +size from a 30-year old to approximately I year of age) and +then, at a physical age of I year, sent back in time to 1927 to +be plugged into a new family as a substitute for a dead son. +This new family- the Bieleks- became my only known parents for +over half a century! + + With the advent of World War 11, I was drafted into the +Navy in 1945 (a second tour) as a seaman until 1946. After +separating from the service, I tried a business venture (it +failed) and went on to college (1949-1950) in Newark, New +Jersey, and later to UCLA. A career followed as an electronic +engineer (1958-1988), with retirement in 1988. + + With the retum of my memories, in May 1986, of the Phoenix +Project and of the Philadelphia Experiment (Project Rainbow) in +January 1988, 1 have engaged in extensive lecturing and writing +on the subject of The Philadelphia Experiment, its ramifications +and the follow-on Project Phoenix, and the incredible +consequences of the lockup through time. + + + + CONNECTING LINK: Tell me about the Phoenix Project. + + AL BIELEK. I'll deal with the final phase of the Phoenix +Project and some of the aspects involved. I joined the project +in 1953 as Al Bielek. I did what the book The Montauk Project* +points out, the computer interface between the psychic chair +used to steer the time tunnels in the final phase of the +operations. Those earlier phases were very difficult-they +didn't work right and they had many problems. But, I became +involved as Al Bielek. Preston Nichols became involved as +Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron became involved as Duncan +Cameron, in his second body, not remembering anything about his +involvement with the Philadelphia Experiment. + + The project generated the time tunnels. People were able +to travel in time and space and they did. But they also had +other projects going on at Montauk. We still don't know all of +them. + + The technology for the tunnels was given to us by +cooperative effort of alien groups, primarily the Orion group, +which involved reptilians, a sub group called the Leverons. A +technical group which provided most of the assistance, was the +group from Sirius A. Very materialistic, scientific, people. +Perhaps not a bad heart but misdirected, because they had very +long-term contracts with the Orions to provide them with the +technical knowledge and assistance they needed. And they were +working with our govenment in secret to work out mindcontrol +techniques and technology and pushing for a highly automated, +technical society which would be much easier to control than it +would be the way it is now. But we're approaching that rapidly. + + + +*The Montauk Project - Experiments in Time, Preston B. Nichols +with Peter Moon. Sky Books, Box 769, Westbury, N.Y. 11590 + + + +Also there were a lot of little greys that got underfoot. +There were other groups there who took no part in the project, +but were there as observersand the group from Antares, very +human, very happy, jovial people. You couldn't tell them from a +human spirit. In fact, I don't think you could anatomically +either. Why they were there, I don't know. They didn't do +anything. They were observers. + + But the aliens provided the expertise, the hardware. They +convened it from their computer data to IBM 360. That still +didn't work and that's when other changes were made. I became +heavily involved in making the time tunnel system work. It was +alien technology. We did not have the theory. We did have the +capability, the technological expertise to build the hardware, +and we did, to their specifications. + + ITT was a contractor. This was all under "Black Card" +clearance level, which is about the highest level of clearance +there is, and most people don't even know it exists. And this +means, in essence, that it is such a deep Black Hole project +that all the records, everything connected with it, is buried in +a black vault and nobody has access to this without having the +proper clearance and a need to know. This includes purchasing +departments who buy the hardware for these projects. The +records for the sales, purchase, everything, buried in the black +vault. So nobody can find it. This is why they call it a Black +Hole project. There are many, many of these. This is one of +them. + + + + The tunnels became fully operational about '77 after many +changes. About '79 on they got all the results they wanted. +Until August 12,1983, at night, when the project was +deliberately crashed. Sabotaged from the inside. That's +covered in the book. But prior to that what they did was +unbelievable. + + One of the uses of the Phoenix Project, in the use of Time +Tunnels, was to provide backup to the Martian Colonies. The +Martian Colonies have been there since the early '70s. We went +publicly to the moon in 1969. Actually the Germans were there +in 1947. And we were there in 1962 with a joint U.S.-Russian +expedition. They went to Mars, May 22, 1962. The movie, +Altenative 3, done by Anglia Television, April 1, 1977, which is +available in the underground, outlines it completely. It shows +the actual transmission. The color shots by TV back from Mars, +as this Explorer moved and landed. We have colonies there in +Mars from the late '60's or maybe early '70's onward. They +found many artifacts there. There is more than one wrecked +city. And of course the famous face on Mars, the Pyramids and +that whole complex that Hoagland (Dr. Richard] has talked about +and gone public on. There are two videos on this plus his book. + + What they found on the surface indicated there was much +more there that they could not find that was buried. And they +had not brought with them, and did not have the capabilities of +heavy earth-moving equipment on Mars at that time. They didn't +have any + +Cats. Big tractors and that sort of stuff. + +They were too heavy to bring up. + + So, a request went by radio back to Earth, "We believe +there are underground installations here. We've seen openings +that are sealed. Can you guys down there tell us what to do?" +Well, the information went to Montauk, to the Phoenix Project. +And they sent back information, "Well, give us some coordinates +on the surface of Mars where you think these locations are." And +they did. And they said, "We'll investigate it." And they did. +Because they could go anyplace with the tunnel, they went to +Mars to the coordinates. + + And first they didn't send anybody. They ran a tunnel into +what they thought might be an underground area and rather than +risk killing anybody by burying them in solid rock, they sent a +camera, a remote-view camera. We found out there was an actual +cavern and it was safe and then Montauk sent people. Duncan and +I were in that crew. The first crew that went, directed by +Montauk to explore the underground of Mars. It's not mentioned +in the book who went, but we went. And there were probably +others. We went several times. We found all kinds of +artifacts. We found a still functional underground lighting +system, a power system. We found it and turned it on and it +still worked. No evidence of life. A lot of artifacts, files, +records, religious artifacts, statuary, all stored like it was a +store room. A huge store room. + + CL: Was the written material in English? + + AB: No. It was in another language. It was not English. +Duncan was able to translate some of it. I saw it, but I was +not able to translate it. And a lot of the records and stuff +were brought back. And eventually Duncan and I decided to take +some clandestine trips on our own. (After one trip is made, it's +all recorded. All the coordinates and information which are +required to operate the system is recorded on magnetic tape. +And you can take this tape, plug it into the computer, and +without going through the psychic and the chair number*, you can +open the tunnel to the same location because the computer +contains all the celestial data-all the Earth movements, solar +system movements, all in the computer-so that there is complete +reference to the new location where the planet would be. And +"plug" the tunnel in exactly the same location.) So we went +twice on our own for our own little explorations. + + CL: And no one was manning the machine for you back home? + + AB: We tumed the equipment on, + +we knew how to do it. And nobody was there. On the second +trip, we were discovered because, there are automatic recorders +that tell how many times this equipment is used, and for what +purpose, and what dates, times and so forth. Automatic complete +time, event recorders. So we were caught when we came back. We +were pulled off the project and slapped on the wrist. "You're +not going to do that anymore," and one of the people who was +involved, a senior scientist, broke our team up. Duncan and I +didn't do much of anything together after that but further +explorations were made by others. What they found, we don't +know. + + Certain people had been chosen in advance, such as myself +and Duncan and Preston to be part of this program. And the +level of brainwashing varied. Duncan was heavily programmed, +brainwashed to do what he did there because he was not being +used for his technical expertise. I was brainwashed to some +extent, and Preston, very heavily. + + But we were all given what you'd call the debriefing after +this whole project crashed and was formally declared over on +January 1, 1984. We all got our debriefings which means your +mind was erased of everything you ever did on the project. And +they hoped it would hold indefinitely. + + It didn't. The reason it did not hold indefinitely was +because the site was not destroyed. It's still there. It was +tumed over to New York State Parks Commission on January I of +1986 or sometime in January of 1986 to become part of the park +that already exists out there. The State has never torn +anything up. They've never tom a building down. They've never +opened it up as a park. + + They knocked the fences down so people can go through there +and hike and camp if they want, during the day. They cannot +stay ovenight without a special permit from Montauk Township. +That's not allowed and the park rangers go in to shuttle them +out. + + But the property remains unconverted. Going in there, as I +did, first in August of '85 by the invite of Preston (I took +Duncan with me), none of us knew, at that time, that we had been +part of the Montauk Project. Preston, as a surplus electronics +dealer, had been out there salvaging equipment previous to this +trip in August. + + + CL: That's where the book, The Montauk Project starts. + + AB: Right. And he didn't know that he had been involved. +He had no recollection. This August trip [Preston] took us out +and said "You're both sensitives. Let's see what you pick up +when we go out there." He says, "I know you've never been there +before." He didn't know, honestly, at that point. So we went +out and we sensed these terrible vibes on the base, that +something awful had been going on there. We sensed this +monster, who showed up at the end of the story, that helped in +the process of the destruction of this station. + + They [Preston and Duncan] of course, had the advantage, +being as I was only visiting, and went back to Phoenix. They +were there in repeatedly, and they became aware of their +involvement in the project much earlier then I did. + + I went back [to Montauk] in May of '86 and made another +visit along with a group from Phoenix sponsored by, I believe, +Senator Barry Goldwater. Because I told this group, whom I knew +from December of '85, about the project and they came out to +make an investigation of possible diversion of federal funds +from a regular federal project to an illegal project. They were +looking for proof. And that was their modus operandi, their +reason for getting passes from the State of New York, from the +Parks Commission, to go on the base, into locked buildings. +There were still some locked. And find what proof, if any, as +to whether this was a diversionary project using federal funds. + + We know now no federal money was involved. Major +investigations have proven this. But in the process we took a +lot of pictures, and in that same visit that time of May '86 my +memory of Montauk started to come backbecause I was visiting the +site, the scene of the crime, if you will. + + CL: And it was acting as the trigger. + + AB: This was the trigger. The same for Duncan, same for +Preston. So my memories came back. I knew then I was part of +it. And they've been coming back ever since because it doesn't +all come back at once in a rush. + + + +It comes back in chunks and pieces, depending upon what the +triggers are that bring it back. But once you've punched a hole +through the wall, it's like the finger in the dike. The hole +starts expanding and it keeps expanding and eventually it will +all come through. + + So I knew, finally, I was heavily involved at an +administrative and engineering level in many projects. Duncan +was involved in more than one project. + + + + Preston was the technical station master after Matthew +Zaret. Professor Zaret was removed in 1980. Really, he left at +my suggestion, but they wouldn't let him loose, so he went to +the parallel project at Brentwood, Long Island, where he died. +Preston took over as the technical director, doing all of the +management. He designed and built all of the RF transmitters +and pulse modulator systems-anything dealing with RF* and +transmitters he is an expert at. And that was his expertise and +his normal working job, as he was employed by an aerospace +company in Long Island for fifteen years until he was fired two +summers ago. He was fired but they covered it. It was because +he knew too much and talked too much in the open, had recovered +too many of his memories and was talking about information at +the USPA [United States Psychotronic Association] conferences, +more than once, which the govemment didn't want made public. So +they pulled his clearance first, and then they canned him in +July of '90 while at a USPA conference. He came back to no job, +He was told, "You're finished, pick up your stuff and leave." +And his boss didn't even know why. His boss didn't fire him. +It was govemment manipulation. + + He was an expert at designing transmitters, high-power +transmitters, for radar, for whatever. In this case, the +Montauk Project, for the final stages of a special Amplitron, +which is shown in the book-there is a photo of it. It was +designed and built specially for the project by Raytheon +Electric in Goleta, Califomia.** I remember going out there to +approve the first shipment of tubes. They were very, very +expensive and specially built. They cost several million +dollars apiece. They ordered thousands. So you can see why the +cost of this project went out of sight. Capacitors for the +pulse-forming networks and the modulator were also specially +designed to very rigid specifications. They finally got +somebody to build them. And everybody in the industry except +one tumed them down. They finally were able to build them to +the specifications, and they sold them to the govemment in +matched sets of fifty at the very small sum of twenty-five +thousand dollars for each and every capacitor. And they had a +hundred on each station. A full set of fifty for two +transmitters, operational, and a full set of spares. So that +was two and a half million dollars right theretimes 25 stations! + + They ran out of gold. (The project was begun with 10 +billion dollars in g old. The story of the gold is documented +in the book Nazi Gold.)*** They ran out of money. So ITT picked +up the tab. + +*Radio frequency electromagnetic transmissions-especially +related to radar. + +**The R & D facility. Production was at Weymouth, MA - over +4,000 amplitrons were produced. CL: And all this technology was from the alien groups? + + AB: They had cooperation from the ET's. See, they had a +crashed UFO which was deliberately crashed, by agreement with +Hitler, by a certain group of Pleiadians. It was loaded with +technology. And the reason for crashing it was that the German +High Command, if they were pushed, could say, "Yeah we found a +crashed saucer in the Bavarian Alps" or some such place, "and we +recovered it, took it apart and analyzed the technology." + + It certainly wasn't made public. But the remains of that +craft were found near Peenemunde after the war was over. This +was the rocket testing base for the Germans and where Wernher +Von Braun operated along with his crew. When the war was over, +he deliberately moved his group to the west, to the Americans. +And another group was captured by the Russians, including, I +believe, his professor, Herman Oberth. Of course that is where +the Russians got a head start on rocketry over the U. S. -they +had the professor who taught Wernher Von Braun! + + There may have been someone else because the Russians +captured quite a number of intelligencia out of Germany when +Berlin came under their control. So the war actually received a +huge boost, technologically from the Pleiadians. So far as +deals are concerned, Roosevelt made the first one in the U.S. in +1934, not with the + +Pleiadians, who offered to help the U.S. get out of the doldrums +of the huge depression we were in, but he chose a different +group for whatever personal reasons we don't know. Called the K +Group or the Kondroshkin. It tums out, so far as I can +determine today, they are the bluegreys. Not the little greys, +but a larger group called the blue-greys. + + In any case, he made his deal with them. They made an +offer to provide a whole new technological base for the United +States atomic energy in 1938. Roosevelt at first approved and +then he tumed it down because the military told him, "Uh uh. We +can't control it from beginning to end. We don't know what they + are going to do with it and how they may manipulate us in the +end." So they [the K-Group] disappeared in the woodwork. + + In 1943 came the Philadelphia Experiment and the lock-up +with the Phoenix Project, ripping a huge hole in space-time. +This was deliberately done by the aliens at the '83 end to put a +rift in the fabric of space-time so large numbers of aliens and +ships could come through. They all had time travel +capabilities, but the rift was needed to get the large ships +through and make a mass invasion of the United States, and later +Europe, of aliens (primarily greys) and other types. When they +landed at Edwards Air Force Base in the Muroc Dry Lake as well +as another air baseI'm leaving a lot of details out-the +govemment already knew all about the aliens being on this +planet. [They knew] since 1887 with the first investigating +commission under Grover Cleveland. + + In any case, they knew that they were here, but then they +came en masse. We were confronted by a technology that we +couldn't counter, we couldn't handle it, we didn't know what to +do about it. So the agreement with Eisenhower and his advisors +was to sign a treaty with them, a noninterference treaty and get +what technology we could from them-make some kind of agreement. +We'd buy time and see what we could do about it later. + + That was the basis of the agreement Because of that, very +large numbers of aliens came in and eventually became part of +the Phoenix Project. They were planning ahead. We didn't know +what they were up to. And I'm looking at this in retrospect, +not what we knew then. They were planning ahead. They knew +what they were doing. They maneuvered and manipulated the +Phoenix Project. They did not expect it to crash then. I am +sure they anticipate its continuing for another decade, at least +into the '90's. + + However, because certain people suddenly, if you will +pardon the expression, "saw the light," got religion, or +whatever it is that hit them, Duncan, and a few others, +conspired to destroy the station. And the reason for it was +that they were fed up with what they saw as all the evils +perpetrated there. + + I knew about it. I decided that I would not be part of the +destructive plot. I said, "Yes, there is a lot wrong here, but +we've already straightened a lot of the mess out and we can +straighten out the rest and continue this as a research tool," +as John + +VonNeumann (who is still alive today by the way) wanted. He +said, "It's a research tool; we need it." Because of the time +travel (remote viewing) capabilities, he saw things coming in +the future which could cause very serious threats to the United +States and the World. + + But, these people had their way. They put a special +implant into Duncan's head so that when we, as the original +Duncan Cameron and myself as Edward Cameron, came through from +the Philadelphia Experiment and went through the station (for +twelve hours) we were retumed to the Elderidge; then the +Elderidge retumed to '43. At that point, that phase was over +and it completed the time loop. + + Then the word went out, "Now is the time" and Duncan +released this thing from his subconscious into the machine. The +transmitter (which already by that time had its own personality) +created this big monster, solidly in 3-D, twelve to fifteen feet +high and [it] literally came out of the subconscious. It went +around smashing buildings and people and it was discovered +trying to break into the radar tower. The tower was much too +strong for it to break into. The only way to stop it was to +destroy the transmitter, and that's what was done. And it faded +out into some other reality. It was photographed in May of 1986. + + But the final chapter on Montauk was not written. We +discovered a month ago [Aug., 1992) that Montauk was +reactivated. And that's what I wanted to get in here. We do +not know who is doing it. We have seen the evidence. New coax +cable runs, new power transformers being put in on the power +substation. The new ones are labeled "non PCB." Because now the +law is that transformers can no longer be filled with PCB as a +cooling agent: if they blow up or break open it's an extreme +hazard to the environment. So they use an environmentally safe +coolant-a different form of liquid in the transformers and they +have big labels on them that say non-PCB. I have pictures of +this, from my trip a month ago. There are new coax cable runs +around the base which are brand new. + + The radar tower now has a new steel door where it used to +be wide open and you could walk in. They put a new steel door +in with double padlocks so you can't get in . The back garage +entrance door for trucks and delivering heavy stuff is now +sealed from the inside. And we found other evidence that shows +that it's being reactivated. + + Preston has been approached by the govemment to become the +director of the New Montauk project, And they told him they also +want Duncan as part of it. There are new workers there. There +are new entrances to the underground. One person we know has +been through the outer door and there is an inner locked door +with a red light on it. You, have to have special access badges +or you'll be stopped. + + We did not attempt to go in because we didn't feel we +wanted to risk it. And we do not know where the project may go, +but we suspect that one of the goals is to extend the time rift +('43 to '83) onward to '93 because '93 is a subnode point in the +20-year cycle, and August, '93 will be a very critical area +again and they probably want the station activated before August +of '93. That's what we feel technically they are up to. But +what the end purpose is for we are not sure. It may be to +extend the time tunnel, that is, the time rift, for purposes of +their own. + + There are a lot of things on this project we don't know. +Some of the things they used it for we still don't know. We +have never had access to the classified records of Lincoln Labs +at M.I.T. (Cambridge, MA). + + They have not been able to take Duncan and myself out +because of the fact that we help hold the whole time rift +stable. It will stabilize itself by the year 2003 unless they +reopen it. Then you have another can of worms to deal with. + + They just don't realize what risks they are running in +reopening that thing. The rift was stabilized in '63, or this +North American continent would now be under salt water. Not +from the year 2000, but it would have been in 1963. There was a +special project created, now well covered, to restabilize the +reverse time wave which would have hit the forward one in '63 at +the node point and wrecked this continent. + + It was due to the fact that they had this time rift, and +because it was unstable in the way it was generated (like a +standing wave in an RF transmission line). You may not +understand RF theory, but you get a reverse wave in an +unterminated or improperly terminated line. Time is a wave as +well. You can have a forward time wave and you can have a +reverse time wave. If the two of equal amplitude hit each other +at a node point, which is the earth synchronization point, like +August 12th, 1963, they can be extremely disruptive, physically, +to the physical structure of the earth. + + And being that this project took place in the United States, +on Long island, those who looked at it in theory said it would +have caused an extreme disruption of geological matter, pulling +it out of the earth, in the North American Continent. It would +have wound up wrecking the tectonic plates, and the North +American continent, other than the mountains, would have wound +up under salt water-500 to 700 feet of it by estimate. + + It didn't happen, obviously-we're here. The '63 project, +"Atlanticus Not Revisited," was successful in damping that +reverse time wave. This is an area of science and technology +and physics which most people know nothing about. + + We hope that if the project is revived that it will be used +properly rather than improperly as it was in the past, though +there were some very good uses for the Montauk Project. In a +larger view, it might be better left buried. Only time will +tell what will happen, and whether or not I will play any part +with it. They have not asked me. They don't want to. All we +can do is hope for the best for the future and that the mistakes +of the past will be understood and that somehow the future will +come out the better for it in spite of the problems we +know we face. + + + + Connecting Link carries Al Bielek Workshop (2 tapes), "The +Philadelph Experiment." $10 Use order form. + + For speaking and professional engagements, contact Mr. +Bielek at P.O. Box 44932, Phoenix, AZ, 85064. + + + +-- +============================================================ + "You can lead a horse to water but you can't + make it drink" + Author unknown + +============================================================ + Robert K. Rouse rkrouse@netcom.com +============================================================ + + +********************************************** +* THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * +********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3054.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3054.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0e80ce5e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3054.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +SUBJECT: ALAMAGORDO (NM) --UFO SIGHTINGS FILE: UFO3054 + + + + +Denver Post, May 6, 1993: + +Alamagordo (NM)--UFO Sightings + +Something bright flashed over the city early yesterday, +followed by an explosive sounding rumble, residents and several +police officers reported. + +Neither nearby White Sands Missile Range nor Holloman Air +Force Base could account for the light. + +The reports came in about 2:45 a.m., said police Lt. Jon Anderson. +"Something went over the city, from west to east, and there was a +huge flash of light, and 10 to 15 seconds later they heard an +explosion." + +The flash came after the object disappeared over the eastern +horizon, leaving a contrail as it passed overhead, he said. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3055.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3055.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6076798c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3055.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +SUBJECT: HORSE-SAUCER MYSTERY GETS EVEN WEIRDER FILE: UFO3055 + + + + + +Appearing in the San Francisco Chronicle, Tuesday, Oct. 19, 1967, page 12 +(following a week of cattle mutilation reports): + +`` [ UPI wirephoto labelled "Duane Martin Tested the Horse for Radioactivity" + and subtitled "Mrs. Berle Lewis and Leona Wellington examine the corpse"] + + + HORSE-SAUCER MYSTERY GETS EVEN WEIRDER + + + Alamosa, Colo. (AP) + + An autopsy on a horse, believed by its owner to have been killed by + inhabitants of a flying saucer, has revealed that its abdominal, + brain and spinal cavities were empty. + + The pathologist, a Denver specialist who wished to remain anonymous, + said the absence of organs in the abdominal cavity was unexplainable. + + Witnessing the autopsy Sunday night at the ranch where the carcass + was found were four members of the Denver team of the National + Members Investigating Committee on Aerial Phenomena. + + The team included Dr. and Mrs. Ken Steinmetz, Dr. Herb Roth and + Captain Dick Cable of the North American Air Defense Command Center + in Colorado Springs. + + When the pathologist sawed into the horse's brain cavity, he found + it empty. "There definitely should have been a good bit of fluid in + the brain cavity," the pathologist said. + + "This horse was definitely not killed by lightning," the pathologist + said. That was the official conclusion of Alamosa county authorities. + + The Appalcosa's owners said they believe the horse was killed by + occupants of a flying saucer. Several others in the San Luis Valley, + where as many as eight sightings of unidentified flying objects have + been reported in one evening recently, have said they agree. + + -- DISPUTE -- + + The controversy over Snippy, a 3-year-old gelding, began September 7 + when the horse did not return to the Harry King ranch. + + Two days later, King went looking for Snippy and found him dead about + a quarter mile from the ranch house. The ranch is 20 miles southeast + of Alamosa in desolate mountain country. + + All the flesh had been stripped from the horse's neck and head and + only bones remained. + + King called the owners of the horse, Mr. and Mrs. Burl Lewis, and + together they investigated the area in which the horse had been killed. + + -- HOLES -- + + They said they found areas where the chico brush had been squashed + to within 10 inches of the ground. What appeared to them to be 15 + circular exhaust marks were found 100 yards from the horse. + + Another area was punched with six identical holes, each two inches + wide and four inches deep, they said. + + The investigating committee Sunday measured markings on the ground + and found the largest to be a circle 75 feet in diameter. Several + smaller areas where the chico brush had been flattened were 15 feet + in diameter. + + The committee returned to Denver on Sunday night with several samples + taken from the horse and an object, presumed to be a tool, Mrs. Lewis + said she found September 16. + + Mrs. Lewis said she found the object on her second visit to the site. + It was covered with horse hair and she said when she tried to wipe + the hair off, her hand turned red and began to burn. The burning + persisted until she washed her hands, she said. + + The Denver pathologist remained at the King Ranch Sunday night. While + there, the group stood on the ranch-house porch and watched two + unidentified flying objects pass over the house, King said. +'' + +{end of article} + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3056.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3056.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..bef4d663 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3056.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +SUBJECT: AN ALIENABLE RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT UFOs FILE: UFO3056 + + + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +An Alienable Right to Know About UFOs +Byline: ROGER SIMON +05/31/92 +THE LOS ANGELES TIMES + +As a public service and because young people are usually too +small to do me physical harm, I occasionally like to analyze their +views. +A few days ago, I received the following letter from Andrew David +Cole, age 12, who lives in Lutherville, Md. +"Dear Mr. Simon," he begins. "The most terrifying aspect of the +UFO phenomenon doesn't come out of the skies. It's not on a wheat +field in England. It doesn't abduct people for goodness-knows-what +purpose. It's our own government, as well as those of other +countries. +"For many years, the U.S. government has withheld from its +citizens, or so it seems, at least as much UFO information as it +has released." +An articulate young man, I think you will agree. And it made my +heart swell with pride to discover that our grammar schools are +teaching our young people to be as dizzy and paranoid as their +parents. +Andrew continues: "People present when UFOs have landed and when +beings emerged from them have been threatened by government agents +that, if they don't move away and/or if they tell anyone about the +event, physical harm will come to them." +Well, now, Andrew, this is where I would like to interrupt you +for a moment. It is very important to distinguish between fiction +and fact, especially in our mass media society where the +distinction is sometimes blurred. +So remember: UFOs, witches, hobgoblins, Elvis sightings, Murphy +Brown and Dan Quayle are all fiction. Death, taxes and more +profiles of Ross Perot are all inevitable facts. +Got that? OK, let's go on with your letter: "In the 1950s, a UFO +crashed near an Army base in the Southwest and, nationwide, +articles were written about it in the newspapers. . . . Once, in +another desert in the Southwest, a different UFO crashed, and a +family went to investigate. . . . " +Let me stop you once again, Andrew. You raise a point about UFOs +that I have never understood. They are built by superior creatures +from civilizations far more advanced than our own. They have +traveled unimaginable distances in order to meet us. So tell me +this: Why do they pick such goofy places to land? +Why is it always a "Southwest desert" or some remote stretch of +tundra near the Arctic Circle or in a swamp in south Georgia? Why +don't they land in Central Park in New York City? Or on "Donahue"? +OK, back to Andrew's letter: " . . . a different UFO crashed and +a family went to investigate. When they got there, they found four +alien creatures. Two dead, one dying, and the fourth still +standing, having suffered apparently little damage. +"The standing alien was taken back to the military headquarters, +where it lived for a few years before dying of an unknown illness. +I think out of all the countries in the world, Belgium is the only +one that makes public all its UFO information." +Exactly my point, Andrew. Belgium is the world geographic +equivalent of a swamp in south Georgia. Whoever heard of anything +important happening in Belgium except the occasional soccer riot or +the recent disappearance of 250 hectares of downtown Brussels in a +bright blue flash? +"We try to live in harmony with other organisms on this planet," +the letter continues, "so why not do the same with other planets? +It's basically the same thing. Humans could openly visit whoever's +out there, and they could openly visit us. Why is the government +trying to prevent that?" +Well, Andrew, I can think of three reasons: +1. Our economy would be thrown into chaos trying to keep up with +the exchange rate on Martian pesos. +2. The Andromeda Nebula might demand one of the two new NFL +expansion teams. +3. The crab creatures of Altair Six smell funny. +There is another possibility, Andrew, perhaps one even a student +as bright as you did not anticipate: Perhaps that one alien +creature that survived the crash in the Southwest did not later die +"of an unknown illness." +Perhaps that was just a cover story. Perhaps that creature +escaped, assumed human shape and has lived among us to study our +ways. +Perhaps he has the ability to cloud minds and bend us to his +will. And perhaps he sits in the White House today, confident of +reelection! +I can think of no other explanation. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3057.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3057.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6899a6e4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3057.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,1551 @@ +SUBJECT: ALIEN ABDUCTION OR ALIEN PRODUCTIONS? FILE: UFO3057 + + + + +ALIEN ABDUCTION OR ALIEN PRODUCTIONS?: SOME NOT SO UNUSUAL PERSONAL +EXPERIENCES. + +by Robert A. Baker Lexington, KY October 1992 + +Recently, proponents of and believers in the reality of alien +abductions Hopkins (1987), Jacobs (1992), Striber (1987) and the +authors of the report _Unusual Personal Experiences: An Analysis of the +Data From Three National Surveys_ (1992) have engaged in an intensive +and far-reaching media blitz designed to convince the American populace +that not only have millions of men, women, and children in this nation +been abducted but that we, as a people, are powerless to do anything +about it. Moreover, the Alien Abduction believers (AA) also consider +this mystery to be on a par with the mystery of the origin of the +universe, the mystery of man's destiny, and the mystery of life itself. +Such an unusual belief and the accompanying argumant for a profound +mystery is not only astounding enough in this day and age but it is +amplified by such mind-boggling claims as "one out of every fifty adult +American may have had UFO abduction experiences, "(Bigelow, 1992, pg. +15) and "many of the presenting symptoms offered by these patients +(alleged abductees) can only be satisfacorily explained by assuming +that their abduction recollections have an objective reality." +(Bigelow, 1992, pg. 11). + +Not only are such statements gross exaggerations and patently false but +they also clearly reveal an amazing level of naivete and an absence of +understanding of some of the intracacies and subtleties of normal human +behavior. On the contrary, most of the presenting symptoms reported by +the alleged abductees _can_ be satisfactorily accounted for without +resorting to the highly improbable and physically unsubstantiated +claims of abduction by alien spaceships. In fact, each and every one of +the reported symptoms of an alien abduction as chronicled in the +Bigelow report are in no way unique or unexplained. They are in fact, +"Old Hat."(Even better, perhaps, "Old Hag" cf. Hufford 1982). They are +quite familiar and very well known by many trained and experienced +clinicians, students of anomolous behavior, and all medical +practitioners interested in sleep disorders. For students of sleep +disorders, hypnosis and suggestion, iatrogenesis, memory aberrations, +and hallucinatory phenomena there is nothing whatsoever puzzling or +unexplained. The argument by the AA proponents that "no current medical +or psychiatric explanation for these accounts has proved viable" is +flatly untrue. The corollary AA claim that "there is virtually no +mention of these events in the literature of mental illness" is not +only mistaken but shows an obvious ignorance of the medical literature. +Under the current MEDLINE RECORD on hallucinations, for example, there +are over 500 entries for the years 1990- through September 1992. AA +believers are correct, however, if they have scanned the current +psychological and psychiatric literature for entries bearing the +headings or titles such as "alien abductions," UFO contacts, demon +possession, extraterrestial rape, or exogenous interspecies breeding." +If, however, the AA proponents will look under the category of Sleep +Disorders they will find 500 MEDLINE entries(1990-1992) and 32 +entries(1989-92) for sleep paralysis. Perusal of these items will be of +value with regard to alleged abductions by aliens and other such +nighttime visitors. + +Nevertheless, at the moment, AA believers are proposing a cluster of +key behavioral indicators which, they argue, when taken together +constitute a syndrome common to all cases of abductions by aliens. The +alien abduction syndrome (AAS) indicators and their prevalence are as +follows: 1) Nearly one adult in five has wakened up paralyzed with the +sense of a strange figure or presence in the room; 2) Nearly one adult +in eight has experienced a period of an hour or more in which he or she +was apparently lost but could not remember why; 3) One adult in ten has +felt the experience of actually flying through the air without knowing +why or how; 4) One adult in twelve has seen unusual lights or balls of +light in a room without understanding what was causing them; 5) One +adult in twelve has discovered puzzling scars on his or her body +without remembering how or where they were acquired. (Bigelow, 1992, +pgs. 14-15). According to the _Unusual Personal Experiences Report_ +cited earlier apparently 2 percent of the American adults sampled +reported having had four or five of these "strong indicators" sometime +in their lives. On this basis the AA believers have concluded that one +out of every fifty adult Americans probably has suffered an "alien +abduction." The AA enthusiasts also maintain that the typical abductee +coming to therapy enters therapy "with complaints about anxiety, +depression, phobias, or a pattern of frightening dreams. The patient +might also be bothered about an incident involving an unexplained time +gap in memory. In many respects the patient might present symptoms +typical of post-traaumatic stress disorder. However, patients will +often withold memories of the more bizarre UFO-related events, either +out of fear they will be rejected or because the patients do not +connect them with the symptoms. One woman known to Hopkins stated she +had been in therapy for seven years and yet said nothing to her +therapist about her consciously remembered UFO experiences. This +reticience is not unusual. these patients might also have dreams or +vague rememberances of such images as hospital operating rooms, bright +lights, huge-eyed alien beings, or even 'impossible' animals such as +very large owls or spiders. Careful questioning--especially under +hypnosis--may reveal that patients have specific memories of having +been immobilized by impassive alien beings who remove them, typically +from a car or home, and then transport them into a UFO..." (Bigelow +Report, 1992 pgs. 10-11). During adolescence and beyond, the abductions +are likely to continue with increasing attention to the genitals and +abdomen...Many such accounts from both male and female abductees +suggest that reproduction experiments are central to the abduction +experience...A variety of abduction locations have been described...In +a majority, however, the abductees awake in bed, fully aware of their +surroundings, but physically paralyzed to such a degree that they may +not even be able to move their eyes. This state of paralysis often +continues for several minutes. The abductees usually sense a presence +in the room but very often actually see one or more diminutive, +large-eyed figures standing beside the bed...Abductees may then be +walked or floated toward a landed UFO, but very often they recall +rising up in mid-air toward the bottom of a hovering UFO. This latter +experience is often recalled later as a 'flying dream' in which the +landscape below is remembered in vivid, accurate detail.(Bigelow, 1992, +pg. 12)...Abduction experiences are often accompanied by inexplicable +humming, beeping or puzzling sounds which, though perceived by the +abductee, are usually inaudible to others in the same vicinity. Unusual +visual phenomena, such as bright lights or floating, maneuvering balls +of light inside one's room are also reported frequently." (op cit. pg. +13). + +Although a number of additional unusual or anomolous events unique to +the particular abductee have been reported by the AA believers, the +above experiences seem to encompass the most common reports of the +"abduction experience" and make up into the "abduction syndrome" (AS). +Now let us see if there is any explanation for such unusual events and +personal experiences _other than_ an actual UFO abduction by +extraterrestial or interdimensional humanoid-like aliens. + +SLEEP PARALYSIS AND HYPNOGOGIC AND HYPNOPOMPIC HALLUCINATIONS + +Students of the sleep disorders are _very_ familiar with an unusual but +non-pathological condition known as sleep paralysis (SP). SP is not a +disease although it may often be mistaken for one especially when it is +accompanied by nocturnal angina or nocturnal asthma. SP always occurs +during the transition period between sleep and wakefullness and if the +paralysis manifests itself as one is falling asleep it is called +_hypnogogic_(predormital). If the paralysis occurs as one is waking up +it is called _hypnopompic_ (postdormital). In both cases the subject is +fully aware of his condition and is unable to move any of the voluntary +muscles or speak. The paralysis may last for only a few seconds or for +several minutes. The paralysis is terminated instantly whenever the +subject moves any muscle or is touched by someone. The experience is +nearly always accompanied by a feeling of anxiety or dread, acute +tachycardia (rapid heart rate), dyspnea (difficult or labored +breathing), and the sensation of a heavy weight pressing on the chest. +The paralysis is frequently accompanied by auditory hallucinations such +as heavy footsteps, noises of heavy objects being dragged, voices, +humming, buzzing or ringing sounds as well as extremely vivid visual +hallucinations particularly of people, demons, ghosts, animals, birds, +et.al., being present in the bedroom. Of particular interest is the +fact that all of these hallucinations are _superimposed on the reality +of the room and the unusual situation the experiencer is in._ Therefore +they _seem to be very real_ (liddon, 1967). + +As to the etiology of SP and it accompanying hypnopompic hallucinations +(HH) the exact cause is unknown but the SP and HH syndrome is closely +associated with disrupted sleep-wake cycles, periods of high stress, +excessive alcohol and drug consumption, sleeping in unfamiliar or +unusual places, and it is also known to be associated with narcolepsy +(sudden short uncontrollable spells of sleep) but it can occur as an +isolated and independent event in normal and healthy individuals +(schneck, 1960). As for its prevalence, a number of seperate and +independent studies have shown an occurance rate between 8.1 and 41 +percent in selected populations (Payn, 1965, Penn, et.al., 1981, +Bell, et.al., 1984, and Fukuda, et.al., 1987). While it is more common +in females and among divorcees and widowers and is strongly correlated +with poor health, there is no sizeable correlation with age, race, +education, or the size of the community (Sours, 1963). + +HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF THE SP AND HH SYNDROME + +In earlier times attacks of sleep paralysis were known as incubus (male +demon) or succubus (female demon) attacks. The Latin word _incubus_ +means "one who presses or crushes". Ancient philosophers considered +these attacks to be caused by indigestion and recommended fasting as a +way to control them (Rehm, 1991). Descriptions of such demons leaping +onto one's chest and choking the sleeper are reported by Horace, +Plutarch, Herodotus, and Galen. In the early middle Ages the +Judeo-Christian literature contained many stories of lustful angels +visiting sleepers and engaging in intercourse. Even Saint Augustine +(354-430AD) confirmed the existence of the incubi and the succubi and +stated "These attacks are affirmed by persons of such indutitable +honesty that it would be impudence to deny it." (Rehm, 1991) In German +folklore the demon was called Grendal or "the grinder" and Slavic +folklore refers to the demon Vjek who "lies down on the unsuspecting +sleeper and compresses his chest." In general, these attacks are +considered as "nightmares" and the Scandinavian term "mara", the Greek +term "mora", the Bohemian word "murra", the Anglosaxon "moere", the +French word "cauchemar", and our own English "nightmare" are all +realted. It is also of interest to note that Thomas Aquinas in the 13th +century believed that demons became succubi in order to extract sperm +from men and use it to impregnate women when they took the form of +incubi. Moreover, not only did the Medeival church accept these demons +as real but their existence provided a most convenient explanation for +embarassingly pregnant nuns, still born or defective infants, and so +on. These nightmarish demon attacks not only flourished throughout the +15th, 16th, and 17th centuries but have continued unabated into our own +time as alien abductions and intergalactic breeding experiments. + +Moreover, as one might expect, sleep paralysis and hypnopompic and +hypnogogic demon attacks are a very popular literary theme. They have +been described in great detail by writers from Edgar Allan Poe, Thomas +Hardy, Guy de Maupassant, Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Isaac +Singer, Alex Munthe, J.R.R. Tolkien, Matthew G. Lewis and in our own +time by Stephan King and Peter Straub. To illustrate the similarity +between the fictional and factual accounts of this phenomena let us +look first at Straub's fictional account taken from his 1979 novel, +_Ghost Story_: + "When sleep finally came to Ricky Henderson, it was as if he were + not merely dreaming, but had in fact been lifted bodily and still + awake into another room...He did not know how he knew it, but he + knew that something was going to happen, and that he was afraid of + it. He was unable to leave the bed; but even if his muscles were + working, he knew with the same knowledge that he would be unable to + escape whatever was coming...Beneath [the quilt], his legs lay + paralysed...When Ricky looked up, he realized that he could see + every detail of the wooden planks on the wall with a more than usual + clarity...as he listened, he heard some complex form dragging itself + out of the cellar...Ricky tried again to force his legs to move, but + the two lumps of fabric did not even twitch...The noises from + downstairs were suddenly louder - he could hear the thing + breathing...Ricky's face was wet with perspiration. What most + firghtened him was that he couldn't be sure if he were dreaming or + not...But it did not feel at all like a dream. His senses were + alert, his mind was clear, the entire experience lacked the rather + disembodied, disconnected atmosphere of a dream...And if he was wide + awake, then the thing banging and thundering on the stairs was going + to get him, because he couldn't move." + +-- from _Ghost Story_ + Peter Straub, 1979 + +For the actual account let us now turn to Dr, Ronald Siegel's +description of his own personal experience with the SP and HH syndrome: + + "I was awakened by the sound of my bedroom door opening. I was on my + side and able to see the luminescent dial of the alarm clock. It was + 4:20 A.M. I heard footsteps approaching my bed, then heavy + breathing. There seemed to be a murky presence in the room. I tried + to throw off the covers and get up, but I was pinned to the bed. + There was a weight on my chest. The more I struggled, the more I was + unable to move. My heart was pounding. I strained to breathe. + + The presence got closer, and I caught a whiff of a dusty odor. The + smell seemed old, like something that had been kept in an attic too + long. The air itself was dry and cool, reminding me of the inside of + a cave. + + Suddenly a shadow fell on the clock. _Omigod! This is no joke!_ + SOmething touched my neck and arm. A voice whispered in my ear. Each + word was expelled from a mouth foul with tobacco. The language + sounded strange, almost like English spoken backward. It didn't make + any sense. Somehow the words gave rise to images in my mind (ESP). I + saw rotting swamps full of toadstools, hideous reptiles, and other + mephitic horrors. In my bedroom I could see only a shadow looming + over my bed. I was terrified... + + I signaled my muscles to move, but the presence immediately exerted + all its weight on my chest. The weight spread through my body, + gluing me to the bed. I was paralyzed. Still on my side, I was + unable to turn my neck to see what was setting on me. I looked at + the clock on the night table. It was still ticking audibly. Next to + the clock was the book I had been reading. A library card--my card + complete with coffee stains--marked my place. My eyes scanned the + wall. I saw a spot I had been meaning to fix because the paint had + peeled. In the corner was a cactus plant I had been nuturing for + years. This was definitely my bedroom and it looked normal. I was + aware of my surroundings, oriented, and awake. _This is no dream! + This is really happening!_ + + A hand grasped my arm and held it tightly. The intruder was doing + the reality testing on me! The hand felt cold and dead... + + Then part of the mattress next to me caved in. Someone climbed onto + the bed! The presence shifted its weight and straddled my body, + folding itslef along the curve of my back. I heard the bed start to + creak. There was a texture of sexual intoxication and terror in the + room. + + Throughout it all, I was forced to listen to the intruder's + indeterminable whispering. The voice sounded female. I _knew_ it was + evil. It said something that sounded like + 'Deelanor...Deelanor'(Ronald spelled backwards). The intruder's + heavy gelatinous body was crushing the life out of me. It was like + breathing through a thin straw...Now the intruder was squeezing me + like a soda straw. My childhood fear of suffocation was returning. I + started to lose consciousness. Suddenly the voice stopped. I sensed + the intruder moving slowly out of the room. Gradually the pressure + on my chest eased. It was 4:30 AM + + I sprang out of bed, grabbed a flashlight, and turned toward the + bedroom door. There was nothing there...(pgs. 83-85, Fire In The + Brain, 1992) + +Dr. Ronald Siegel, the narrator of this experience is an outstanding +psychologist, a distinguished University professor, and a +world-renowned authority on the effects of drugs on behavior. Yet, he +was so disturbed by this experience that he was in a dazed state most +of the following day and was so intrigued by it that he spent several +days looking into its cause and nature. because his perceptions of the +clock and other items in his bedroom he felt there had to be _something +real_ about the presence attacking him. He though at first it was just +a bad dream or an anxiety dream. SInce these typically happen _before_ +awakening occurs, it could not explain how his experience began _after_ +his awakening. He then thought that it might have been a "night +terror", i.e., a spontaneous awakening from sleep followed by +physiological signs of extreme fear: tachycardia, rapid breathing, and +heavy persiration. Yet, where the sleeper usually screams in panic or +walks or runs out of the room, Siegel was paralyzed. Moreover, people +rarely remember night terrors and, since they occur in non-REM +(rapid-eye-movement-) sleep, they are not dreams per se, but the result +of a failure to control one's anxiety after being suddenly awakened +from deep sleep. Finally, night terrors are almost exclusively found in +children not adults. Siegel finally concluded that he had, indeed, +suffered from the well-known sleep paralysis phenomenon accomapnied by +a hypnopompic hallucination. In his analysis and elucidation of this +experience Siegel stresses that it is of the utmost importance to fully +understand that with the right set, with the accompanying expectations +and attitudes in the right setting--the physical and psychological +environment--a false perception can have the full force and impact of +reality. In his words, "True hallucinations are strictly mental +creations. The mental elements-- the images, thoughts, fantasies, +memories, and dreams are the only building blocks necessary for the +construction of the final perception." (Fire In The Brain, pg. 96). + +There is, indeed, a fine line between mental experiences such as +thoughts and between fantasies, dreams, and hallucinations and, for +many people, these experiences can evolve or change into one another. A +dream, upon awakening, can easily become an hallucination. Similarly, a +thought as we are falling asleep can change into a dream. The internal +perceptual mechanisms are very much alike and, in many situations, it +is very difficult to tell whether the perception is real or illusory. +Normally, real perceptions are more salient, more vivid, much clearer +and are easily recognized as being due to an external rather than an +internal stimulus. Neither can you change them by an act of will. +Mental events that have these qualities (and many mental events we +experience as the result of drugs, dreams, sleep deprivation, excessive +stress, starvation, as well as SP and HH states do have similiar +qualities) are almost impossible to distinguish from true perceptions. +If someone as sophisticated and knowledgeable as Dr. SIegel had +difficulty in recognizing the hallucination for what is was, what can +we assume about those experiencers who are much much more naive? It is +very easy to understand why they would be haunted and disturbed and, +perhaps, even believe they were going crazy. It is also easily seen why +they would repress such a frightening and unexplainable experience, +avoid thinking about it, and evince--at a later date--symptoms +equivalent to post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). + +SP with the accompanying hallucination is a most frightening ordeal. +The physical changes accompanying SP are open eyes, muscular paralysis, +and respiratory difficulties. The sufferer is often pale, anxious, and +afraid and is subject to highly erotic sensations. He or she is totally +unable to move or to engage in voluntary movements of any kind despite +the fact that he or she is awake, aware, and conscious. The paralysis +is, indeed, a terrifying experience and one that is fully remembered at +a later date. It is while the victim is caught up in the paralysis that +the hallucinatory visions appear. In the hypnopompic state the brain is +unable to instantly switch from the dreaming state to the waking state. +At this time those brain circuits activated by the dreams continue to +send signals--which could be the images of a ghost(most frequently), a +demon (such as in the incubus and succubus or "old hag" attacks- This +is the term that the folklorist David J. Hufford 1982 and others use to +describe the SP and HH hallucinatory phenomenon) or an extraterrestial +alien--to the cerebral cortex where the frontal lobes assume the +signals are coming from the outside world rather than from within. +While in this "waking dream" state the dreamer sees, hears, feels, and +smells things that _are actually there_ in the environment. The real +environment stimuli then become entangled with the dream stimuli and +then both the true and the false perceptions are organized in such a +manner that the brain assumes that it is wide awake when it is, +actually, still asleep and dreaming. Moreover, awakening in a state of +SP can cause one to hyperventilate and then feel a tightness or +heaviness in the chest. The hyperventilation then diminsihes the supply +of oxygen going to the brain and the lack of oxygen then produces +_hyperacusis_, i.e., a condition in which ordinary sounds seem to be +unusually loud. Then, even the slightest noise will cause the dreamer +to experience numerous auditory hallucinations such as footsteps, +garbled voices, heavy breathing, buzzing, humming, clanks, and bangs +and so forth. If the oxygen supply is further restricted, the sexual +pleasure centers in the brain are stimulated. Knowledge of this +phenomena is often used in auto-erotic aphyxia, i.e., the practice of +tying a rope around the neck during masturbation in order to heighten +the orgasm. It is also why the AA syndrome is replete with images of +alien rape, probing of sex organs, and so forth. frequently, this sort +of sexual arousal is carried over from REM sleep and, in the male, +usually results in penile erection. Many autonomic nervous system +changes also occur, including changes in skin temperature and skin +resistance which give rise to tingling sensations, sensations of cold, +as well as the strong emotional responses of fear and panic. These +emotional effects give rise to heightened sensitivity to minor +environmental stimuli that, under normal circumstances, would usually +be ignored. The emotion of fear causes the pupils to dilate and then +even the most simple and innocent of shadows become monsters, ghosts, +demons, or threatening aliens. + +THE HYPNOGOGIC STATE + +In the hypnogogic state a number of equally frightening events can +occur. First, as one begins to fall asleep there is a significant +reduction of proprioceptive impulses coming from the relaxing +musculature. On occasions, when one is falling asleep this sudden +reduction is interpreted by the brain as a loss of balance as one is +startled awake. Further relaxation, as one continues to fall asleep, +causes a decrease in the amplitude and frequency of the brain waves as +the alpha waves of wakefullness are progressively replaced by the +slower theta waves. As a direct result of the loss of bodily sensation, +the hypnogogic dreamer begins to feel that he is floating through space +or that he no longer has a body, or that he is a free-floating mind or +awareness without a body, i.e. he has an "out-of-body" experience +(OOBE). This is why that many believers in the AA syndrome report +floating from their beds into a UFO and floating through walls and so +on. Usually accompanying this sensation is a loss of volition control +and a sense of paralysis, eg., if _there is no body there is nothing to +move._ + +Descending further into sleep and the hypnogogic dream state a number +of unusual images will often appear. these dream images most often +begin with flashes of or balls of light, that seem to be swelling and +growing larger as they approach the dreamer. No matter what form or +shape the images take, they are most frequently reported as round or +oval and they appear to expand in size the longer the dreamer observes +them. Known in the clinical literature as the _Isakower phenomenon_ +this unusual but fairly common experience is named after the Austrian +psychoanalyst who first described its clinical characteristics +(Isakower, 1938). This phenomenon can occur while falling asleep or +upon awakening and may be accompanied by a gritty sensation around the +mouth as well as a milky or salty taste (Asaad, 1990). Many +psychoanalysts believe the experience represents an awakening of early +nursing experiences but Cavenar and Caudill (1979) suggest that it +merely reflects anxiety due to oral frustration or that it is simply an +association with dreams caused by anxiety or stress (Stern, 1961). Stern +also describes a condition known as _blank hallucinations_ which are + + "stereotyped sensory perceptions without appropriate external + stimuli. Lacking any content related to persons, objects, or events + they are close to elementary hallucinations as which we designate + such unformed perceptions as sparks, lightening streaks, cloudlike + phenomena, etc...They differ in intensity, frequency, and duration, + to full hallucinations (or even pseudo-hallucinations, i.e. + hallucinations which are recognized as such but not perceived with + sensory distinctness). They may last a few seconds, or minutes, or + hours, or months...When awake the patient is usually aware of the + hallucinatory character of the phenomena (pseudo-hallucinations)." + (pg. 205) + +Stern also notes that many hallucinatory phenomena of this nature, +i.e., sensations as dizziness, being engulfed by vague cloudy masses, +changes in body feelings, feeling of falling and sinking or floating, +distortions of space perception are strikingly identical with those +reported by patients with organic vestibular disturbances; they are +always felt as imminent death. + +One of my own clients, after reading both Streiber's _Communion_ and +Hopkins _Intruders_ a few days later woke up and saw a tattletale gray +face glowing on the wall over his dresser. A few minutes later, +following a brief period of sleep, the image of the face reappeared. In +his words, "The face was a little bigger than mine. It glowed and had +large almond-shaped, jet black eyes bulginf out of its forehead. The +eyes had no pupils and the face did not look at me straight-on, it was +turned a little to the right. I was so mesmerized by the eyes I don't +recall any other feature other than vertical wrinkles on its cheeks +giving him a creepy creepy look." Over a period of several months the +client saw images of a dead deer, a red haze, a dog's face, a cascade +of bubbles all over the wall at the foot of his bed, numerous white +glows at his window, flashes of light, a Santa Claus figure, rabbits, a +pig's head, geometrical figures both in color and black and white--as +well as monkeys and numerous faces of both men and women. Of further +interest is the fact that his son also reported both hypnopompic and +hypnogogic dreams as well as the Isakower phenomena on at least two +occasions. Physical and mental exams of both the client and his son +could find nothing amiss. Both were, in every way, normal nad healthy. +Perhaps the most interesting aspect of all were the drawings my client +made of the "tattletale gray faces"; all were almost identical to the +cover illustration on Streiber's _Communion_. It is abundantly clear +that as Siegel has noted, "the drowsy person on the hypnogogic state is +just as open to suggestions as subjects in the hypnotized state." + +Before leaving the topic of sleep paralysis it might be wise to look at +another common form of complete or partial muscular paralysis +(technically known as cataplexy) that is also associated with +narcolepsy mentioned earlier. Dr. William C. Dement, an authority on +sleep disorders, notes that people who suffer from narcolepsy also +suffer from cataplexy. Cataplectics are fully aware and are aware of +what is going on around them but are simply unable to move. These sort +of attacks can occur at any time, but most often occur when the victim +is emotionally aroused. People have fallen victim to cataplexy while +playing baseball, making love, or watching TV or a movie. While they +are wide awake they are totally unable to move a muscle. After a few +minutes of relaxation and calm, however, they usually gain full +muscular control. In the early 1960s, however, Dement and his +colleagues discovered that narcoleptic patients begin their night's +sleep by moving immediately from wafefullness into the +rapid-eye-movement (REM) or dreaming phase of sleep, rather than into +the non-rapid-eye-movement(NREM) phase (Dement, 1976). Therefore it is +clear that the hypnogogic hallucinations are vivid dreams associated +with periods of REM sleep. Dement was also able to explain the +mysterious attacks of sleep paralysis and cataplexy. We have known for +a long time that during REM periods of normal sleep the brain exerts a +powerful inhibitory influence that paralyzes the arms, legs, and trunk +of the sleeper. This paralysis allows us to have vivid dreams and still +remain asleep. If the intense activity of the dreaming brain were not +blocked at the level of the spinal cord by a strong inhibitory effect, +the sleeper would literally jump out of bed and carry out his dream +fantasies. Spinal inhibition has to be quite strong to keep the muscles +in check. Most of the time all we notice is an occasional twitch or +spasmodic jerk. Another regulatory mechanism, keeps the inhibitory +force in check while we are awake, except in narcoleptic victims. In +these patients the inhibitory process breaks through and drops them +like a rock. Nightly when the narcoleptic victim goes to sleep, the +first thing he experiences is cataplexy, and the other REM process soon +follows. But, if the vicitm tries to move before he is actually asleep, +he will find that he is paralyzed. Then, if he is particularly +imaginative, he will find himself caught up in some very realistic +experiences and will be convinced that he is not asleep. In fact, +although paralysis is the rule, many of the normal features of +wakefullness may remain. The dreamer may be able to move his arms and +legs, and even sit up in bed with the images still persisting. As for +the content of these hypnogogic hallucinations, it can be horrible or +benign, and in many instances it will be related to the dreamer's +current concerns. If such concerns be related to or involved with +science-fiction themes, horror novels or movies, media stories about +UFOs and aliens, then the dreamer will probably experience contacts +with aliens, ghosts or demons, or demented killers, or something +resembling and alien contact or abduction. Christopher Evans reported +the case of a scientist who had been struggling with a problem for +months with no success. He was getting very discouraged until one +morning he woke to see ghosts of the world's greatest scientists- +Newton, Galileo, Darwin, et.al.,-- marching past his bed, telling him +not to give up, that he would win in the end. (Evans, 1985) Similarly, +most of the ghosts, monsters, aliens and so forth that visit sleepers +in the middle of the night are creations of the dreaming brain putting +on its own SP and HH extravaganza. + +Contrary to popular belief, narcolepsy is not a rare disorder. Dement +and his coworkers found over 2,000 sufferers in the San Francisco Bay +area alone, and they have estimated as many as 100,000 people in the +nation may be afflicted with this condition. The total number of people +having hypnopompic and hypnogogic hallucinations must be sizeable +indeed, including both narcoleptics and non-narcoleptics. What is +equally cleaar is that the Roper survey is sampling this very extensive +population. McKellar and Simpson (1954) made an attempt to identify SP +and HH experiences in college students and found as many as 67% of them +reporting such imagery. Even this substantial figure is considered by +McKellar to be an underestimate of the real number, and in 1979 he +characterized the SP and HH imagery as a universal human phenomenon +(McKellar, 1979). McKellar also made a very useful distinction between +hypnogogic "sequences" and hypnogogic "episodes". Sequences are simply +a group of rapidly changing images of objects, persons, or places in +apparently random order and they lack any sort of coherence. Episodes, +on the other hand, involve schemes or themes of longer duration, with +clear definition and structure. Their content may often be a mere +continuation of recent perceptions and thoughts, or on other occasions, +more symbolic or dreamlike, or fantistic, unreal, or totally foreign +and unrelated to the mental life of the person when awake. + +HYPNOSIS AND SUGGESTION + +Whether known and admitted or known and denied, believers in alien +abductions should relaize that hypnosis is, essentially, social +compliance, relaxation and suggestion as well as the fact that--just as +in dreams and the hallucinatory states--fact and fiction are readily +and easily confounded. Very few memories obtained via hypnosis emerge +completely pure and veridical. With regard to memories of traumatic or +highly emotional events--especially those involving fear--these, in +particular, are usually confused and confabulated. This is especially +true for those individuals who have experienced the SP and HH syndrome +and are still not sure whether or not what they experienced was real. +This experience is, to most, so unique and so frightening they do, +indeed, want to be reassured that they are not "losing their mind." If +such victims are fortunate enough to be treated by a mental health +professional who is familiar with the SP and HH syndrome are, in no +way, "crazy" or bedeviled. They will also be reassured that no demons, +no incubi nor succubi, no ghosts nor monsters, no little gray, red, or +green men nor exotic extraterrestial aliens have, in the past, or will, +in the future, attack, rape, violate, or experiment upon, or abduct +them. The anxiety of and the fear and trembling of the victim will be +focused upon and relieved. If, on the other hand, the victim falls into +the hands of therapists who are unfamiliar with the SP and HH syndrome, +they may be told, "Don't worry. It was only a bad dream, a nightmare. +You are not going crazy. Are you sure that you were not molested as a +child? What do you feel guilty about? Are you having trouble with your +spouse?" And so on. This common therapeutic approach would indeed, +leave the SP and HH sufferer feeling disgruntled and frustrated and +looking elsewhere for an answer and for someone who _can_ help. If such +a victim has also heard of the AA syndrome (and in our day and time not +having heard of it is, frankly, impossible, considering the amount of +time and attention that the media has given to the subject) he or she +may conclude that he or she "is" or "was" also an abductee. + +Let us, for example, look at two typical instances of the AA syndrome +as described by Budd Hopkins and Whitley Streiber and then compare and +contrast them with the typical SP and HH cluster of symptoms. First, +Hopkins: + + "(Sandy) wanted to report a dream she had recently...which she felt + had been almost too real to have been literally a dream. The essence + of her recollection was that _she had been awakened in the night, + paralyzed, and taken from her house by three shadowy, large-headed + figures._" (pg. 44) + + "Andrea had read my book...and wanted to tell me about several + 'dreams' she remembered from her childhood...About six weeks before + she wrote to me she 'dreamed' that she awoke in her bedroom with a + small, gray-skinned figure standing beside her bed. The man she + lives with was asleep next to her, but _she was unable to move to + alert him in any way._ She was floated out of her bed, across a + field behind her apartment and into a UFO. Then, as she sat + paralyzed, on a table, the small figure pressed a long needle up her + nostril..." (pg. 124) + + Ed had been napping in his truck when..."I awoke completely + paralyzed. I was wide awake, but _the only thing I could move_ was + my eyes...(_the radio mike) was within easy reach but I couldn't + move._ It seemed like I lay there for a long time, but it probably + wasn't more than a couple of minutes. The paralysis left." (Under + hypnotic regression, Ed remembers being transported to a UFO and + forced to copulate with female aliens.) (pg. 132) + + "(Dan's) recollection involved his waking up in bed and seeing three + of the large-headed, black-eyed creatures standing in his room...He + felt that the experience was totally realistic and yet dreamlike at + the same time...(Under hypnotic regression): Does she seem real or + does she seem something out of a dream? She was real....(she rapes + him) Can you embrace her? Do you hug her? No, it's just like I lay + there..."Does the room look like a dream room? It seems like my + room.... She does the whole thing? And you don't move? Right." + (pgs.149-151) + + From _Intruders: The Incredible Visitations At Copley Woods_, 1987 + +Now let us look at Streiber's descriptions: + + "I don't remember falling asleep or lying awake...It was as if I had + become profoundly paralyzed. Although I wanted desperately to move, + I could not...a state of raw fear so great that it swept about me + like a thick, suffocating curtain, turning paralysis into a + condition that seemed close to death...Sometime in the night I awoke + and found myself unable to move or even open my eyes. I had the + distinct impression that there was something in my left nostril...I + tried to struggle...The next thing I remembered, it was + morning...There are six figures standing at the end of the bed + looking right at both of us...They are + menacing-looking...Strange...I feel like I've just gotten some kind + of weight on me. I want to get up...They're just standing there." + + from _Communion_, 1987 + + "In the wee hours of the night I abruptly woke up. There was + somebody quite close to the bed...I caught a glimpse of someone + crouching just behind my bedside table...I could see by the huge, + dark eyes who it was...I felt an indescribable sense of menace. It + was hell on earth to be there, and yet I couldn't move, couldn't cry + out, couldn't get away. I lay as still as death, suffering inner + agonies. Whatever was there seemed so monstrously ugly, so filthy, + and dark and sinister...I still remember that thing crouching there, + so terribly ugly, its arms and legs like the limbs of a great + insect, its eyes glaring at me...Every muscle in my body was stiff + to the point of breaking. I ached. My stomach felt as if it had been + stuffed with molten lead. I could hardly breathe." + + from _Transformation_, 1988 + +When we compare these reports with the descriptions of the SP and HH +hallucinations cited earlier, i.e. the Siegel report, it is very hard +to tell one from the other. Streiber's and Hopkins' and Siegel's +accounts are, for all practical purposes identical. _The essential and +significant difference is that SP and HH victims going to knowledgeable +therapists are told about sleep paralysis and hallucinations whereas +those going to believers in alien abductions are told they have been +abducted!_ + +For those who have experienced SP and HH hallucinations and who place +themselves in the hands of the AA believers, their major reason for +doing so is because, they too, believe they must have been abducted. If +they were not already entertaining such a belief why would they seek +help from the likes of non-professionals like Budd Hopkins, an artist, +or David Jacobs, a History professor or deliberately seek out +therapists like Dr. John Mack, Edith Fiore, Irma Laibow, et.al., who +have publicaly announced they believe UFO abductions are real and who +have developed a reputation for treating those who believe they have +been abducted? In Dr. Mack's own words, "I will usually start +(treatment) with a review of the circumstances that caused them to +contact me at this time. We examine the experiences and feelings that +make them suspect that they have been abducted, such as the missing +time episodes, a history of unexplained lights or beings in their +immediate surroundings, unusual dreams or nightmares that seem +abduction-related, or powerfully affecting close sightings of strange +craft." (Mack, 1992) + +Once the alleged abductee is in the believer's hands the process of +legitimizing the abduction begins, most often with regressive hypnosis. +What is of particular interest here is that, in most of the cases +involving the use of hypnosis the client is told or is lead to believe +(or in many instances is asked _ahead of time_) some of the details or +particulars concerning the abduction. It is these details and +particulars that are reinforced, enhanced and elaborated upon via +suggestion during the ensuing hypnotic interview in which an elaborate +AA _production_ is created by the hypnotist and the eagerly cooperative +and highly suggestible client. + +Dr, Martin Reiser, a psychologist and hypnosis consultant for the Los +Angeles Police Department, viewed videotapes of Budd Hopkins +interviewing a subject under hypnosis and Reiser concluded that Hopkins +was telling the subjects ahead of time that abductions happen, that +they are very common, and that there is no question that alien +abductors do exist. Hopkin's response was, "Well, these cases are so +outrageous and the person feels so uncomfortable talking about them +that, unless you assure the person by your manner that you believe +them, you will not get the story." Reisler responded, "I think much of +what was felt and perceived by these two subjects could be explained in +rational reasonable ways that don't involve UFOs or UFO experiences." + +In describing his own use of hypnotic regression, Dr. Mack states, +"Initially, my technique was to determine in advance with the abductee +which abduction experience(s) would be targeted in the session." (Mack, +1992). There is no doubt whatsoever here, in either the mind of the +hypnotist or the mind of the person being regressed as to whether an +abduction did or did not occur. This is well assured and agreed upon by +both parties before the hypnosis begins. As Dr. Mack continues, "Having +learned _in advance of the details_ surrounding the particular +abduction experience being targeted, I ask the experiencer to go back +to the time in question and, when he is ready, to begin the narrative +of that night, automobile trip, or whatever other circumstance obtained +when the abduction began." (Mack, 1992). In such a "believing" and +"highly suggestive" atmosphere using the powerful suggestive technique +called "hypnosis", under the influence of a prestigious, demanding, and +charismatic "believer" who is piling suggestion atop suggestion onto +the relaxed and compliant victim, it would be a miracle indeed if +anyone would do anything other than agree "Yes, oh yes! I was--I must +have been--abducted by aliens!" + +One can also be very certain that a tremendous amount of social +reinforcement and support follows the admission of not only being a +victim but having the details of one's abduction dovetail with those of +previous victims. Even if the hypnotist makes a maximum conscious +effort not to "put words into the client's mouth or images into his or +her head" (which considering the lack of hypnotic training and skill is +highly unlikely, beside the strong motive to confirm one's beliefs) it +will be done away. As a result, _it can be safely said that every case +of alien abduction involving the use of hypnosis is iatrogenic, i.e., +caused by the hypnotist himself._ As for those cases that the AA +believers present in which no hypnosis was involved, they are most +likely the result of a highly suggestible (Baker, 1990), imaginal +(Ring, 1992), or a fantasy-prone (Wilson and Barber, 1983, Basterfield +and Bartholomew, 1988, Rhue and Lynn, 1987) personality type falling +prey to the highly influential media and misinterpreting their SP and +HH hallucination as another legendary UFO abduction. There is, however, +another possibility--someone who is lying and seeking attention and +notoriety and, of course, money. There is no quicker way of drawing a +crowd than to claim a UFO abduction. + +Iatrogenesis + +For those AA believers who would question iatrogenesis, i.e., the +creation and shaping of the disorder by the therapist, as the most +plausible explanation for the proliferation of the AA syndrome, a +recent paper by the Canadian psychiatrist Merskey is of considerable +significance and relevance. Like alien abductions which began in our +time with the case of Betty and Barney Hill in the 1950s, cases of +multiple personality disorder (MPD) have been diagnosed in +unprecedented numbers, mainly in North America, since 1957. Because of +the widespread publicity surrounding the concept, it is doubtful that +any case of MPD can now arise that is not specifically promoted by +suggestion or prior preperation by a therapist. To determine if MPD was +ever a spontaneous phenomenon, Merskey examined in detail case after +case reported in the early literature giving particular attention to +alternative diagnoses that could account for the phenomena as well as +to the specific ways in which the first alternate personality emerged. +The earlier cases involved amnesia, striking fluctuations in mood, and +are dealing with hysteria, to mistake it for something else...As a cirr +sometimes cerebral organic disorder. The secondary personalities +frequently appeared following hypnosis and several amnesiac patients +were specifically trained to come up with new identities. Many others +showed overt iatrogenesis. None of the reports fully excluded the +possibility of artificial production. Merskey concludes his long and +careful review with the statement that the diagnosis of MPD today +represents a total misdirection of thera peutic effort and this +misdirection seriously hinders the resolution of serious psychological +problems in the lives of patients. Dr. Paul R. McHugh of Johns Hopkins +School of Medicine emphatically agrees. In his words, + + "Just as the divines of Massachusetts were convinced they were + fighting Satan by recognizing bewitchment, so the contemporary + divines--these are the therapists--are confident that they are + fighting perpetrators of a common expression of sexual oppression, + child abuse, by recognizing MPD. + + The incidence of MPD has of late taken on epidemic proportions, + particularly in certain treatment centers. Whereas its diagnosis was + reported less than two hundred times from a variety of supposed + causes in the last century, it has been appled to more than 20,000 + people in the last decade and largely attributed to sexual + abuse....the proper approach to end epidmics of MPD and the + assumptions of a vast prevalence of sexual abuse in ordinary + families is for sychiatrists to be aware of the potential, whenever + we are dealing with hysteria, to mistake it for something else...As + a corrective, psychiatrists need only review with a patient how the + MPD behavior was diagnosed and how the putative memories of sexual + abuse were suggested. These practices will eventually be + discredited, and this epidemic will end in the same way that the + witch trials ended in Salem....Major psychiatria misdirections often + share this intimidating mixture of a medical mistake lashed to a + trendy idea. Any challenge to such a misdirection must confront + simultaneously the professional authority of the proponents and the + political power of fashionable convictions." (McHugh, 1992, pgs. + 507-509). + +In 1984 Dr. C.H. Thigpen, who along with Dr. H.M. Cleckley wrote _The +Three Faces of Eve_, one of the first popular accounts of MPD, reported +that over the 25 years following their book hundreds of patients were +sent to them by therapists who had diagnosed them as MPDs and by others +who were self-diagnosed. Of all these cases Thigpen and Cleckley found +only one that was "undeniably a genuine multiple personality." +(Thigpen, 1984) + +Experienced therapists well know that medical diagnosis is both +heuristic and variable (Merskey, 1986) and that some diagnoses are +preferable to others because the presenting symptoms appear to +originate undependently of either the doctor or of social demands, or +because they lead to more success in prognosis or because they are the +best guides to treatment. In Merskey's words, "They (diagnoses) may be +influenced by psychological factors or by social expectations, whether +we are talking about cancer pain, endogenous depression, or +post-traumatic-stress disorder. However, it is reasonable to reject +those diagnoses which most reflect individual choice, conscious +role-playing, and personal convenience in problem-solving, provided we +have alternatives which are less trouble intellectually, and at least +as practical socially and therapeutically, and not morally +objectionable. Hence I am evaluating MPD as a diagnosis with the +implicit view that certain other diagnoses are acceptable alternatives: +mania, certain depressive illnesses, schizophrenia, obsessional +neurosis, and even some conversion or dissociative symtoms arise in +very many cases of MPD, without medical induction or social +facilitation...Some authors have already maintained that MPD is +produced by the interest of doctors and others." (pg. 329) + +Upon completing his exhaustive review of all of the most publicized +cases, Merskey reports, + + "No case has been found here in which MPD, as now conceived, is + proven to have emerged through unconscious processes without any + shaping or preperation by external factors such as physicians or the + media. In respect of this argument, we may have reached a situation + comparable to Heisenberg's principle of uncertainty: observation of + the phenomena changes it. If this is true it means that no later + case, probably since Prince, but at least since the film _The Three + Faces of Eve_, can be taken to be veridical since none is likely to + emerge without prior knowledge of the idea. (Merskey, 1992, pg. 337) + +Similarly, as in the case of the alleged alien abductions it means that +no case probably since the Betty Hill claim (and at least since the +film _Close Encounters of the Third Kind_) can be taken to be veridical +since none has likely emerged without prior knowledge of the idea. +Merskey also adds, + + "It is likely that MPD never occurs as a spontaneous persistent + event in adults. The cases examined here have not shown any original + conditions which are more autonomous than a fugue or a second + identity promoted by overt fantasies or conscious awareness. The + most that may be expected without iatrogenesis is that an overt + inclination for another role could cause the adoption of different + conscious patterns of life...Without reinforcement, such secondary + changes would ordinarily be expected to vanish. + + Suggestion, social encouragement, preperation by expectation, and + the reward of attention can produce and sustain a second + personality. Admittedly, if only those physicians who expect the + disorder can see it, those who do not believe in it cannot see it. + However, like others, I was willing to entertain its existence and + never found it myself before the dramatic rise in reported cases or + since. Meanwhile it is not necessary to treat patients who have had + terrible childhoods and who have conversion symptoms, by developing + in them an additional belief in fresh personalities. Enthusiasm for + the phenomenon is a means of increasing it. (Merskey, 1992, pg. 337) + +These two paragraphs could just as well have been written referring to +the AA syndrome instead of the production of multiple personalities. +Quite clearly, suggestion, social encouragement, preparation by +expection and the reward of attention can produce and sustain the +belief in an alien abduction. Moreover, physicians and therapists who +believe in and expect the disorder can see it, those who do not believe +in it cannot see it. And, most certainly, enthusiasm for the AA +phenomenon is surely a means of increasing it! + +Finally, in considering how patients, doctors and other therapists, +come to believe in MPD or to present the popular pattern, Merskey +offers four explanations as to how MPD is created: first, is the +misinterpretation of organic or bipolar illness; second, is the +conscious development of fantasies as a solution to emotional problems; +third, is the development of hysterical amnesia, followed by retraining +by the therapist; fourth, is the creation by implicit demand of alters +under hypnosis or by repeated interviews. In similar fashion--with the +possible exception of any sort of organic illness and this possibility +cannot be totally excluded--so is created the popular pattern of alien +abductions that so many credulous therapists believe in: first, is the +misinterpretation of the SP and HH syndrome; second, is the conscious +development of fantasies of abduction and rape as a solution to +emotional problems(In female abductees some of these emotional problems +may well involve guilt and/or grief over abortions as Dennis Stacy has +suggested); third, is the development of hysterical amnesia and post- +traumatic-stress disorder symptoms followed by retraining by the +therapist to insure the client provides the proper script complete with +all of the AA symptoms; and fourth, the creation of a credible AA +scenario by implicit demand under hypnosis or as a result of shaping in +repeated interviews. It is highly unlikely today that any case of +alleged AA could possibly have escaped the pervasive influence of the +media or iatrogenesis. If any such cases do exist the burden of proof +rests upon the shoulders of the claimants: the victim and their +therapist. Merskey concludes that the diagnosis of MPD may not give the +best treatment nor is it helped by such an extraneous and exciting +diagnosis. ANother ill effect, he notes, is that the value and good +sense of psychiatry becomes suspect as wonders multiply. These words +are even truer and more applicable in the case of AA claims made by +native therapists. + +MISSING TIME + +With regard to "missing time" experiences it is regrettable that the +Roper surveyers did not restrict their questions about "lost time" to a +population made up exclusively of long distance truck drivers. Had they +done so the number of those answering affirmatively to the questions +about missing time would have approached 100 percent. Nearly every +driver we have ever heard of or talked with had reported this "sleeping +wakefullness", blanking out", or "lost time" experience. Periods of +amnesia or forgetfulness while driving are a familiar experience to +nearly everyone--especially to drivers who travel long distances over +familiar routes. Williams (1963) reports on one case in which a woman +driver had so many periods of amnesia while driving in New Jersey that +she sough psychiatric help. She could remember stopping at traffic +lights in the town preceding the one she was then in, but could recall +nothing in between. Due to repeated experiences of this sort in which +she could recall nothing of what had happened over stretches of 25 or +30 miles or more, and sometimes as long as an hour or two, she feared +she was suffering from some sort of emotional instability. The _missing +time phenomenon_ is really very common and is not restricted to +automobile or truck drivers. Automobile passengers also report this +sort of experience, but their actions are more likely to pass unnoticed +than those of the driver. Alternate drivers on long-distance trucking +teams frequently report that their alternates sometime appear to be in +a daze and operating the vehicle more or less mechanically. This, along +with the driver's glass stare is a sure sign it is time to switch +drivers. Long distance drivers and airline pilots suffer from these +periods of "missing time" quite frequently. One long hauler reported: + + "I discovered this fact (amnesia) while driving at night from + Portland, Oregon, to San Francisco, California. The lights of a town + approached and I realized that I had been in an almost asleep + condition for about 25 miles. Inasmuch as I knew the road I had + traveled was not straight, it was apparent that I had negotiated the + road, making all the turns, etc..I did not remember the stretch of + road at all. + + I purposely tried it several times after that and found that I could + drive miles and miles without memory of it, and while resting. In + each case whenever any driving emergency appeared, I became fully + awake." (Williams, 1963) + +It is difficult enough when driving with somebody else, but even more +difficult when driving alone. As one solitary traveller reported: + + "I have noticed whenever I make a trip to New York City via the + Merritt Parkway (Connecticut) that in spite of a good night's rest, + I have to fight off going into a trance...I have observed also that + if I go to New York City via the Boston Turnpike which passes + through many towns, I always find the trip interesting and am never + in danger of a monotonous drive...as well as I can recall, the only + times the monotony of driving on a road like the Merritt Parkway has + affected me have been when I am driving alone. (Williams, 1963) + +The trance and missin gtime experience also seem to occur under two +other conditions: first, when drivers are forced to follow trucks or +other large vehicles for considerable distances; and second, when they +drive at night and their range of vision is restricted to the area o +fthe headlight beams. Reed, in his _Psychology Of Anomolous Experience_ +(1974) discussed this missing time experience at length and explained +it in terms of the level of mental organization or schematization +required by a situation. While the task of driving a car is itself +highly skilled, its component activities are all overlearned and +habitual to the experienced driver. Steering, shifting gears, giving +signals, etc., all become automatic acts which do not require focused, +conscious attention. Furthermore, our experience of time and its +passage is determined by events--either internal or external. When a +person reports a "time gap" he is not saying that a piece of time has +disappeared but that he failed to register a number of _events that +normally serve as time markers_. The experience that is reported and +that actually seems so strange is actually 'waking up" when one is +already awake and being aware of a blank period in his recent past. +Since most of us live our lives by the clock such that certain habits +take place at certain times, we are disturbed when we find we have +missed a period of time. A driver wakes up in New York and realizes +that he remembers nothing since Boston. ALthough the driver describes +his experience in terms of time, he could just as well describe in in +terms of _distance_, or even more accurately in terms of _events_, +i.e., in terms of, in this case, the _absence of events_. Even though +there were events during the missing time, none of them had any +alerting significance. The time gap is experienced when no events of +significance occur, e.g., there is nothing unusual about the traffic, +there is clear visibility and smooth unchanging road surface, there are +no warning signs, and the demands of the driving tasks are few and +unchanging. + +Moreover, when we learn and master a complex skill like walking or +talking or driving a car, once we have perfected each component of the +skill its performance becomes automatic, in the sense that we can +withdraw our attention from this level and focus on the next higher +level. We do, however, have to attend to ways in which basic skills +like driving must be organized in response to environmental +demands--particularly when the demands are stressful or unfamiliar. The +skilled tennis player cannot relax his concentration because his +opponent will continually be introducing changes in the environment. No +matter how automatic his stroke or eye-hand coordination may be, he +must still stay alert. But if all we are required to do is walk along a +lonely beach for miles, we can do it and never notice or know that we +are doing it. It is possible to do two things at once as long as one of +the activities is automatic and does not require focused attention. We +do a lot of things without thinking, reflexively, as when a child +suddenly and without warning darts in fron tof our car. We hit the +brakes and stop the car without thinking. The driver realizes that he +has been driving _automatically_ when the situation does change and +events demanding his active attention "wake him up." He hits the brake +suddenly without thought. Or as he gets closer to New York City, +traffic increases, sirens intrude, highway signs appear, and the +driver's automatic routines are now inadequate--he must reorganize his +skills and pay attention to the rapid changing conditions. When he +"wakes up" he realizes that, among other things, he is now in New York +before he supposes he should be. As Reed says, "In one sense he is +correct in describing what has happened as a "gap". But the gap is not +in time, but in alertness or his high level of conscious attention." +(Reed, 1974, pg.20). + +In short, the experience of missing time is best considered in terms of +the absence of events. Most of the time we cannot remember what took +place simply because nothing of any importance occurred. Singer, in his +_Inner World of Daydreams_ (1975), points out that the missing time +experience is quite ordinary, common, and universal and is not merely +restricted to driving on an interstate highway. He asks, + + "Are there ever any truly 'blank periods' when we are awake? It + certainly seems to be the case that under certain conditions of + fatigue or great drowsiness or extreme concentration upon some + physical act we may become aware that we cannot account for an + interval of time and have no memory of what happened for seconds and + sometimes minutes." (Singer, 1975) + +With regard to falling asleep and dreaming unless we program ourselves +ahead of time to remember our dreams, they disappear into thin air as +soon as we realize that morning and a busy day is upon us. If they are +particularly annoying, anxiety arousing, or frightening then we may +recall the emotional upset but may be very hazy about the specific +details. In the event of an SP and HH experience, however, there is no +difficulty at all in recall. The more one reflects upon the missing +time experience and its correlates and the circumstances surrounding +its occurance, the clearer it becomes that it is a normal, everyday, +and ordinary mental event that has nothing whatsoever to do with either +UFOs, or alien abductions. The fact that one has a missing time +experience and after either a hypnotic and brainwashing session of +suggestion and then associates the "missing time" with an AA in no way +either substantiates or authenticates such a claim. Not only are our +daydreams as difficult to recall as our nightmares but also their +content and the total amount of time we devote to them are--in most +instances for most of us--forever beyond recall. Where oh where did all +this "missing time" go? + +ABRASIONS, SCRAPES, SCABS, SCARS, AND BRUISES + +According to the AA believers, "The patient may also have one or two +unexplained scars on the legs--or occasionally on the upper body--which +he or she feels are the result of these quasi-medical examinations." +Moreover, these puzzling scars take the forms of a characteristic +"scoop mark or straight-line cuts" and the abductees feel very uneasy +about the origins of these marks. The alleged reason for the uneasiness +is that neither the abductee or any one else remembers how they +received them or where they came from. According to the Bigelow report +results this totals 14,800,000 people who made this claim. What is +surprising is that the total is not larger or even 100 percent of the +sampled population since everyone who examines their body carefully at +any given time will, invariably, discover one or more abrasions, +scrapes, scabs, scars, or bruises they are at a loss to explain. If you +doubt this examine your body, carefully, in a full length mirror or +else have your spuse do do. COncerning the so-called characteristic +scoop mark or straight-line cut what would be most helpful in this +regard are some photographs of these typical wounds. To my knowledge no +such photographs have been made public nor has any of these alleged +wounds been inspected by a licensed dermatologist or forensic expert +who might be able to determine what sort of instrument, if any, made +these incisions. What is much more likely is that the 14,800,000 people +who responded affirmatively to the question _were not claiming that the +puzzling scrapes, scabs, scars, and bruises they discovered on their +bodies were either scoop marks or straight-line cuts_. Allegations of +"peculiar incisions, needle marks, triangular bruises, and scoop-like +scars of unknown origin seem to add further 'evidence' as to the +existence of some kind of anomalous event." (pg.53) Accompanying such +claims is the statement that children are "actually found absent from +their cribs, dazed in a nearby field, or outside of the bolt-locked +home at night." Unfortunately, there is no documentation of any sort to +support these sensationalistic claims nor any reference to the efforts +of local law enforcement personnel or FBI personnel to validate or deal +with such crimes. In the same vein we are also barraged with further +unsupported and undocumented claims that many people "have actually +witnessed an abduction occurring--observing the beam of light engulfing +the individual, watching someone floating out his window, and +witnessing the existence of small beings as well. With multiple +witnesses, documented absences, correlating wounds and perfectly-round +scorched areas of earth, the phenomenon becomes much more than mythical +or imaginary." Where, pray tell, is the documentation for all these +hysterical claims? Where are these witnesses? Who are these people +making such claims? Where is the proof of such stupendous, +mind-boggling, earth-shaking, science-challenging claims? Where oh +where? + +MISCELLANEOUS SHORTCOMINGS OF THE AA SCENARIO + +Thoughtful readers of the AA literature must have some while ago begun +to take with a grain of salt many of the published statements of some +of the AA proponents. For example, according to Dr. John Mack, alien +abductions are not only common but they are increasing in number. In +his words, "hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American men, +women, and children may have experienced UFO abductions, or +abduction-related phenomena." What is puzzling about this statement is +the fact that supposedly educated and trained therapists seem to +believe it. For the aliens to carry out a logistical operation of this +magnitude, any night in the year when we would happen to step outside +and look up, we could not help but see hundreds of UFO spaceships +flitting back and forth like fireflies. Pictures of human and inhuman +bodies shuttling back and forth from spaceship to bedroom and vice +versa in broad daylight would fill not only the checkout-counter +newspapers but the pages of the New York Times, the Boston Globe, and +the Washington Post as well. Dennis Stacy, editor of the MUFON monthly +UFO journal, has also questioned Mack's statistics and in the September +1992 issue of _Fate_ magazine noted: + + "The claim that almost four million Americans alone have been + physically abducted in, say even the last 50 years clearly boggles + common sense, not to mention the otherwise unencumbered imagination. + And remember, this is only the potential number of individuals + theoretically abducted: since some abductees report several repeat + experiences, the total number of actual abductions, assuming that is + what is involved, could easily be two, three, or four times that + amount. Moreover, these numbers apply only to a target American + population of 185 million. If we are to assume that one in every 50 + people with a population of several billion has actually been + abducted at one time or another, we are now looking at a potential + body count of some several hundred millions. The logistics of an + ongoing extraterrestial invasion on that kind of scale simply won't + compute." (pg. 65) + +When properly used statistics can clarify and illuminate but when used +carelessly without forethought they merely obfuscate and cinfuse and +serve as tools of propaganda to promote some end. Mack's particular +use is an excellent example of what Paulos calls "innumeracy." + +As for the aliens physical appearance, it is highly improbable that +they exist as they have been descired in their little gray homonid +form. In a fascinating paper concerned with the human tendency to +project human qualities upon the external world Coffey (1992) reminds +us that not only is there no incontrovertible evidence whatsoever that +aliens exist, but evolution itself is not the ineluctable following of +physical laws but, instead, is merely a chain of contingent events, +which easily could have been otherwise. Change any one of the many past +events in our biological history which is a cascade effect and it will +dramatically influence everything that follows. If, by some cruel +stroke the chordates had failed to survive millions of years ago then +neither verterbrates, nor mammals, nor ourselves would have ever +evolved; we simply would not be here now. The Burgess shale fossils, +representing a time just after the Cambrian explosion 570 million years +ago completely refute the anthropomorphic idea that diversity increased +with time. Instead, the evolutionary pattern shows rapid +diversification followd by decimation with perhaps as few as 5% +surviving. In Coffey's words, "The survivors resemble the winners of a +lottery rather than creatures better designed than the unlucky majority +who do not survive." Steven Gould (1990) not only concurs, but points +out that if we were to replay life's tape there is no reason whatsoever +to assume that our particular type of self-conscious being would ever +be expected to appear again. As Gould notes, our evolution is not a +repeatable occurance. If anything, we are the embodiment of +contingency. What this means is that it is so highly improbable as to +approach impossibility that there is any humanoid intelligence of any +sort--albeit housed in different bodily frames--to be found anywhere +else in the cosmos. Coffey sums up quite succinctly our anthropomorphic +fallacy: "The evolutionary conclusion that humanoid intelligence +elsewhere is improbably is not due to any anthropomorphic bias but +because of the deep understanding that evolution has no real goal other +than adapting creatures to specific local environments. Neither we, nor +our mode of intelligence, are the highpoint of evolution. The pathways +of evolution are too circuitous for that ever to be the case." (pg. 28) +Little gray homonids who bear a marked resemblance to human fetuses but +who are able to communicate telepathically? Dragons and fairies are +equally, if not more, probable. If the aliens came from any space at +all it is from "inner" rather than "outer." It is also high time that +we realize that all our scenarios of extraterrestial life from those of +SETI supporters to those of the Star Trek series are all _nothing but +projections of ourselves_! If, as the AA believers insist, the aliens +and alien-technology are in our midst why would NASA be aiming their +very costly radio telescopes at the stars? According to Coffey, the +hope for finding human intelligence elsewhere is a religious +conviction. In his words, "It is religious in that it rests upon faith +not a rational comprehension of the message the evolutionary record +cries out to us: of humans elsewhere there will be none forever." + +As for believers in alien abductions perhaps their convictions are also +religious and are motivated by the same forces that inspire the SETI +scientists. Whatever these forces may be they make up the real mystery +surrounding the entire phenomena of UFOs, alien abductions, beliefs in +alternate realities, and so on. Why, it is important to ask, would so +many educated and credentialed individuals in the mental health field +ignore their scientific training and clinical experience to +authenticate the anxieties of the SP and HH hallucinations victims? Why +have they forgotten the cardinal principle of therapy: _first do no +harm_? Their rationalization that whether the abductions are _true_ +(and they insist they are) or false is of little matter since they must +treat the client's _belief_ that he or she was abducted--will not hold +water. The belief that one was abducted when reinforced and confirmed +by the therapist not only causes an increase in panic and anxiety +(because they are now left exposed and totally helpless to prevent +further abductions) but aggravates the original trauma. If there was +even a smidgen of doubt as to the reality of their prior experience, +the therapist's authentication of an abduction removes all traces of +conjecture. As a result, the hapless client is now quite likely to have +new nightmares about his previous experience. Moreover, the client is +now absolutely certain that his SP and HH syndrome was an honest-to-God +abduction! Elevating the vicitm's anxiety level is no conceivable way +therapeutic! + +A few weeks ago I was contacted by one of Hopkins' clients who could +not understand why I doubted Hopkins' belief in the abduction delusion. +He was quite upset because I challenged the reality of his experience. +After he had the original and very powerful fear emotions revived, +reinstated, and then reinforced by Hopkins' hypnotic ministations, he +was now totally convinced his alien contact was real. His last angry +letter assured me that I was the one who was crazy. "You were not +there! It didn't happen to you! You just don't know! I know what is +real and what is not real!" The point that every victim of the SP and +HH syndrome invariably seem to miss is: _that if it didn't seem to be +real it wouldn't be an hallucination_! + +Another very serious shortcoming in the AA scenario has been noted by +Dan Wright, MUFON's Deputy Director of Investigations (1992). According +to Wright, "By a fair reading of MUFON's case files, one would have to +conclude that _abductions rarely occur_....In my 14-year association +with MUFON, no aspect of the subject has had more significance than +so-called 'abduction phenomena.' From an investigative standpoint, +however, these are potentially the most widely mishandled +investigations. And that is caused _solely_ by the utter secrecy of the +self-appointed 'experts' handling these cases (pgs 10-11). Wright is +most incensed, however, by the failure of the claimants to submit their +abduction findings to outside experts for independent analysis. In +Wright's words, "Authority without responsibility. Ah, if life could be +so sweet for us all!" Wright further criticizes the abductologists on +their failure: 1) to determine the credibility of their witnesses; 2) +their failure to check the validity of their claims with police, +neighbors, friends,a nd so on; 3) their failure to report the verbatim +questions and replies obtained under hypnosis; 4) their failure to +insure the qualifications and training of the hypnotist; and 5) their +failure to follow reasonable scientific guidelines for enabling others +to understand the origins and purposes of any alleged alien +intelligence. Wright does not buy their argument that their sole +purpose is to help abductees through a traumatic period in their lives. +Maganimous and commendable though such altruism may be, it is no excuse +for thier shoddy and unscientific behavior. This, of course, raises +another mystery: Why have the AA believers been so reluctant to be +candid and open? + +Certainly, Dr. John Mack has been quite candid and open with regard to +his therapeutic approach in helping alleged abductees. One of his more +interesting techniques is that he calls "the breathwork technique", a +technique he says he learned with Stanislay and Christina Grof. +According to Dr. Mack: + + "The breathwork enables us to move into and through the affectively + disturbing places and to work with energies and resistances which + are held in the body. I explain at the beginning the importance of + the breath and of breathing to the work. I tell the person about the + breath, that it goves him power and connects him to the life giving + forces of the cosmos. Early in the relaxation process I ask the + individual to establish a deeper than normal, full slow rhythmic + breathing pattern and bring him back to his breathing again and + again." (Mack, "Helping Abductees," IUR July/August, 1992, pg. 14) + +What is particularly curious about his technique is that dyspnea so +often accompanies and is an integral part of hte SP and HH syndrome. +The pressure on the chest, the difficulty in breathing, and so on, +clearly indicates that Mack is sensitive to such complaints on the part +of his abductee clients. It also further strengthens the link between +the so-called abductions and the SP and HH syndrome. + +Also noteworthy is hte recent report by Basterfield (1992) in which a +normal, healthy Australian housewife experienced a classical AA +experience -- two decades ago -- in which the abductor was a man-like +entity with long blond hair and he was dressed in a white ski suit. As +Basterfield says, what is significant about this report is that "a +witness of impeccable character was apparently subjected to an +escalating sequence of events terminating with an abduction, then a +visitation a week later. During this abduction she never physically +left the presence of two UFO researchers who were sitting next to her." +Although it could be argued this was not a "true" abduction, +Basterfield stresses that it passes all four criteria of the Center For +UFO Studies (CCUFOS) definition of an abduction. This also invalidates +David Jacob's remarks that "in the abduction phenomenon abductees are +never physically in place when they have an abduction +experience...Researchers have not collected a single csae of an +abduction in which the victim was actually in a normal location while +the abduction was occurring." There should be little doubt but that +Basterfield's case is just one more example which attests to the true +_psychological_ nature of hte AA syndrome. + +Concerning the many and various claims made by the AA believers as to +the material evidence left behind by the elusive aliens, these +notorious physical artifacts are very hard to come by. Curiously enough +some while ago Jerry Clark, Vice President of CUFOS and Don Schmitt, +CUFOS Director of Special Investigations, took a trip into the wilds of +rural Illinois to inspect that rarest of rare finds: an extraterrestial +implant. A man claiming to be an abductee reported that at one point +his abductors stuck a small implant up his nose (presumably _en route_ +to the brain). A few nights after one of his abduction experiences his +car struck a bridge and he was thrown through the windshield. At the +hospital his skull was X-rayed to check for injuries. Shortly after +this accident the man caught a serious cold, and as he was blowing his +nose he felt something emerge. It proved to be a strange sperical +object which looked like the one the aliens had placed in his head. +After meeting the man where he said he would be Clark and Scmitt +engaged in pleasantries for two or three minutes and then he unwrapped +his present. In Clark's words, "Don and I stared at it incredulously. +_It was a ball bearing._ At that point, of course, it was difficult for +the two of us to keep our faces straight. But soon curiosity set in, +and we spent the next hour or so hearing the man's story, all the while +wondering if he realized that his tales of alien encounters in the face +of manifestly bogus evidence made him look ridiculous...No such luck. +He looked and sounded sincere, and he mentioned other persons who could +confirm aspects of his experience." (Clark, April, 1992, pg. 20) Clark +and Schmitt also had the man's X-rays sent to them becuase if there was +an alien implant or a human ball bearing it should show up. When the +X-rays arrived and wereinspected they showed nothing out of the +ordinary. This story is exemplary in that it shows how easy it is for +many seemingly ordinary and stable people to create, harbor, and +maintain a bizarre but status-enhancing delusion. As for all of the +reputed implants, stolen fetuses, unexplained pregnancies, metallic +pieces of unearthly aircraft et.al., none of these artifacts are +available for public inspection and none of the exogenous conceptions +have ever been authenticated by any reputable physician or have ever +been reported in any reputable medical or scientific journal. + +As for the alien's reputed transportation system this is equally +nebulous and if the UFO spacecraft have the performance characteristics +described in numerous reports they are unique indeed in that they defy +the known laws of physics although these laws seem to hold in all parts +of the known universe (Merkowitz, 1967) + +When one takes a close, careful, and hard look at the entire AA +scenario one finds not only hundreds of unanswered factual questions, +countless logical flaws, reams of unsupported claims, piece after +missing piece of "supposed" material confirmatory evidence, no +unimpeachable photographic evidence, no abduction attested to by +multiple witnesses, and nothing whatsoever to contradict the evidence +that the reported alien encounters were anything more than the SP and +HH syndrome, delusions, or a deliberate hoax. + +Why are images of little gray men showing up in the hallucinations of +the American populace when such images in the Nordic countries are of +golden-haired humans and Italy are of reptilian beasts?? Our aliens +are, of course, straight out of the final scenes of _Close Encounters +Of The Third Kind_ and off the cover of _Communion_, images that +literally thousands of American men, women, and children have seen over +and over. In every way, the description of the aliens and their +robot-like behavior now trotted out before us by Hopkins, Jacobs, +Bullard, Streiber, Mack and the rest are more like carefully +orchestrated _theatrical productions_ rather than anything else. All of +the alien abductologist's work is carefully scripted to produce the +maximum amount of awe, fright, and mytification with the minimal amount +of clarification and explanation. They, in every way, support what Eddy +Clonts, editor of the supermarket tabloid _Weekly World News_ said +recently, "Everybody else is trying to demystify everything. We're +trying to do the opposite, to mysify them." If the AA believer's aim +was to create a mind-boggling and stupendous mystery out of a common +but not well known sleep disorder, they have succeeded admirably. They +have, indeed, with the media's help, produced a winner! + +SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS + +Whether intentional or not, the entire AA scenario is an elaborately +staged hoax -- a production dumped upon the American scene by a naive +and credulous group of sensationalistic-minded zealots and misguided +psychotherapists who should know better. Acting in the name of altruism +and aided and abetted by an enthusiatic and uncritical media, these +alarmists have not only created a full-blown neurosis in many people +suffering from a fairly common sleep disorder, but they have also +raised the anxiety level of an alreadt beleaguered and overstressed +populace. Acting in the name of beneficence and good citizenship, they +have succeeded in doing considerable harm and have, in the process, not +only managed to discredit sceince and medicine but psychology and +psychiatry as well. Such _alien productions_ disguised in the name of +_alien abductions_ are, indeed, as Philip Klass aptly phrased it some +years ago (1989) "a dangerous game," a game that no one who is _truly_ +concerned about the welfare of others would ever want to play. + +Robert A. Baker +Lexington, KY +October 1992 + + +REFERENCES + +1. Assad, Ghazi. 1990. _Hallucinations In Clinical Psychiatry_, +Brunner/Mazel, NY. + +2. Baker, Robert A. 1990. _They Call It Hypnosis_, Prometheus Books, +Buffalo, NY + +3. Basterfield, Keith. Present At The Abduction, "International UFO +Reporter, May/June 1992, pgs. 13-14, 23. + +4. Basterfield, Keith and Bartholomew, R. 1988. "Abductions: The +fantasy-prone personality hypothesis." Intn. UFO Review, 13, 3, +May/June, pgs. 9-11. + +5. 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Wilson, S.C. and Barber, T.X. 1983. "The Fantasy Prone Personality: +Implications for Understanding Imagery, Hypnosis, and Parapsychological +Phenomena," in _Imagery: Current Theory, Research and Application_, ed. +by A.A. Sheikh, John Wiley & Sons, NY. + +44. Wright, Dan. 1992. "Abductions: Our Dirty Secret," MUFON UFO +Journal, No. 287, March 1992, pgs. 10-11. + +<<<<< END >>>>> + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3058.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3058.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..19aea1df --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3058.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +SUBJECT: ALIENS ON MARS ? FILE: UFO3058 + + + + + +=========================================================================== +Date: 08-31-93 +From: JOSEPH DANIELS +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Aliens on Mars? + by UFO JOE + August 29, 1993 + +Scientist always wondered if there was life on Mars. There is +ample evidence that Mars was once flowing with water that is now +locked up in it's polar ice caps. If there was intelligent life, +where did it go? Could the strange satellite of Mars called +Phobos actually be a hollow space colony? What would we do if +Earth dried up, head for the Moon? It's long been rumoured that +if NASA found proof of aliens on Mars or Phobos, that it would +not be released to the public. Just a few days ago a NASA Mars +Observer arrived at Mars and NASA has just announced that it has +gone missing. Have aliens tampered with this probe or is this +part of the government cover-up. Read on and make draw your own +conclusions. + + Moon of Mars is a Massive Alien Colony + +In 1959 a soviet scientist, Dr. Shklovsky announced that Phobos, +one of the moons of Mars was an artificial satellite, a ten mile +wide hollow sphere based on observations from the U.S. Naval +Observatory. In 1963 a NASA official Raymond Wilson announced to +the Institute of Aerospace Sciences that Phobos might house a +colossal space colony. Other scientists like Dr. Fred Singer, +(chief space adviser to President Eisenhower); Professor James A. +Harder (University of California); and Wells Alan Webb, respected +Mars authorities agree that Phobos may host an Alien colony. NASA +has considered the possibility and made plans to send space +probes to investigate. + + Mars & UFO Sightings + +Wilbert Smith the Telecommunications Engineer of the Canadian +Department of Transport notes the curious fact that the frequency +of of UFO sightings is highest at times when Mars is closest to +Earth. + + The Phobos II Incident + +On July 12, 1988 the USSR launched two unmanned probes towards +Mars called Phobos I and Phobos II. Two months later Phobos I was +mysteriously lost. Phobos II arrived at Mars in January 1989 and +entered an orbit around the planet as the first phase of it's +real destination, a small Martian moon called Phobos. The mission +was flawless until the craft aligned itself with Phobos. On +March 28, 1989 an elliptical craft was photographed by three +different cameras moving towards the satellite seconds before it +failed. All indications were that the elliptical UFO had somehow +attacked the satellite which was now dead and left spinning out +of control. + + The Face on Mars + +The surface of Mars is covered with strange shapes and buildings +that do not appear to be natural such as the pyramids, square +buildings, runways, etc. One structure shows the face of a man +with a helmet looking into space. It can be seen at the National +Space Science Data Center, Viking photo with catalog number 76-A- +593/17384 Titled "Head". (Other photos are from NASA 070-A-13 and +035-A-72) There are now eleven Viking photographs of this +monument on the surface of Mars. The "Head" and other artificial +features such as the pyramids were studied by an electrical +engineer and imaging specialist Vincent Di Pietro and a Lockheed +computer scientist. The analysis indicates that the "Face" had +been artificially sculpted. + + Russian-USA Joint Venture + +On October 6, 1992 in a press release it was revealed that for +the first time in history. The Russian Space Agency and NASA +would co-operate to rush another probe to mars. However, rumours +leaking out of NASA say that transmissions from this mission will +not be made public. If anything alien is found on Mars/Phobos it +will not be released. + + Another Phobos II Incident or Government Cover-UP? + +Well it's August, 1993 and the Mars Observer has gone missing? +Have the aliens destroyed another probe? Or could this be NASA's +way of hiding it's findings to the public? Or is Mars just an +unlucky place to send probes. We have successfully sent probes to +the outer reaches of our solar system, but Mars is plagued by bad +luck? I wonder if we will ever know what is really going on on +Mars. - UFOJOE + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3059.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3059.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ed39fd5e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3059.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +SUBJECT: SHOWEN : 3STAR FILE: UFO3059 + + + + + +From: Don Allen +To: All Msg #165, 15-Jan-92 08:54am +Subject: Showen:3Star + +This came off Usenet from alt.alien.visitors +-------------------------------------------- + +Article 3469 of alt.alien.visitors: +From: Don_-_Showen@cup.portal.com +Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors +Subject: Three star tells all +Message-ID: <52694@cup.portal.com> +Date: 12 Jan 92 18:15:00 GMT +Organization: The Portal System (TM) +Lines: 75 + +Three star tells all.......... + + While I was in Phoenix Arizona, at the Alternate Alien and +New Age convention, I met Tim, (Mr.. UFO Beckley) the author of the +UFO Magazine, called UFO UNIVERSE. He seems like a very nice person, +and I enjoy reading his magazine. + + One of the articles in his Oct-Nov 1991 issue of his +magazine, had to do with an unidentified 3 star general. Here are +some of the points he made; In regards to the book, (The Roswell +Incident) I was given some articles to look at, and was asked to +participate in the "AWARENESS PROGRAM", which is a means of +disseminating alien contact to the public. Although I had turned this +down, I later was shown some articles, a tape and still photographs. +In these I saw the alien craft, the frozen alien bodies, (from the +Roswell site) and the live alien which is a guest of the US +Government. + + There have been several UFO crashes over the years. The +aliens really have no "invasion" planned for this planet. They have +visited on and off here, for thousands of years. + + Our US guest is over 300 years old. The aliens use about 55% +of their brain capacity,or ability; they do have DNA. The alien which +is a guest of the US Government,is 5"3 tall, weighs 96 lbs., has a +large head (hairless) and large slanted eyes. Some of the aliens +abilities include moderate telepathy and telekinesis. + + Cattle, as well as humans have been used in alien and US +research for various biological applications. Most humans are not +hurt in the research and experimentation. Some however have died due +to complications and downright carelessness. + + Several cross breed young have been born to both human +females and alien females. We humans are fully biological with most +visiting aliens. Some we are not.(more than one type or species has +visited our planet) The US and Britain have made a secret treaty +agreement, with the aliens, in exchange for technology, and so-called +"recon" missions, during times of human conflict. Aliens agree to +stay out of human wars, and not to interfere with society. Also, there +are special "teams" which are designated to, eradicate, discredit, +harass and trump-up charges to control those humans which experience +contacts or visitations from aliens, including also those who make +verifiable sightings. + + The alien crafts have been more-or-less copied by top +scientific experts, and are functional. The Awareness Program +(mentioned before) was designed to inform the public gradually, in a +systematic, logical way. This is a joint governmental-and-alien +program. It is coupled with the increased alien-human abductions and +contacts. If done correctly there will be little or no panic or +resistance. The worlds governments will retain control, avoiding +chaos. + + In some of the reports it was noted that our children were +mentioned as some of the cargo on the alien space crafts. There are +over a million missing children every year in the US alone. The aliens +take about 2,200 a year from the US and other countries combined. The +rest of the children are due to mankinds Darkside. + + The children are used in several ways; Biological, to educate +and return; Experimentation, disease study, the same as adults. +Implants are being used on the humans taken aboard the alien crafts +and returned. Some of these implants are microscopic in size,(and +smaller) which influence the growth function and learning capabilities +of the individuals. + + The A.P. (Awareness Program) calls for the funding of movies, +television series and specials, and books. These will be about +friendly alien contacts. There are disks, triangles and oblong-shaped +craft. They range from 30 ft, for the smaller recon disc, to over 730 +ft, for the larger mother disc,(or flying saucers,if you will...) The +triangle shaped craft are 210 ft. in diameter. The oblong shaped craft +is the really big one of the 3. The only one ever found by the +military was in the late 60's; it measured 1,100 ft. long with a +circumference of 310 ft. There is some noise made, however, all craft +are almost totally silent. + + In closing, these are my words; (John Winston) "These people +which were picked up at the Roswell are not my first choice of space +peoples to cooperate with. Ike turned down my friend, Valient Thor, +from Venus, so I guess I will have to work with the space peoples our +government has chosen." As the uneducated person who cussed all the +time was sent to England to be educated and saw a group of bow-legged +cowboys for the first time, I'll leave you with this saying; "Low and +behold what fools are these who wear their legs in parentheses." + + this is being posted by Don Showen for John Winston. I am not +Don. Don is not me. + +---End of Article--- + +Don + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3060.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3060.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..76a2cdd2 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3060.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +SUBJECT: ALIEN EXPERIENCE FILE: UFO3060 + + + + + +Date: 11-21-93 (10:59) Number: 24867 of 24931 (Refer# NONE) + To: ALL +From: QUINTON LICCKETTO +Subj: Alien experience +Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE (Echo) +Conf: Fidonet_UFO (21) Read Type: GENERAL (+) + +Hello all, My mom has a story about when she saw an alien. She even wrote +it up on the ol computer so i will post it here: + + ALIEN EXPERIENCE + + On Tuesday, November 8, 1988, I had a most unusual experience. +I was exhausted from a day of teaching art and being Mom. I lay +floating in my dark bedroom with the waving motions of my waterbed, +which I found very relaxing. I was on the right side of my bed. + + Some time had passed, though I don't know exactly how much of a +time lapse occurred from the time I went to bed to the beginning of my +experience. Somehow, I noticed that then I was on the far left side +of my bed, directly above the heater of the waterbed. That was un- +usual because the only time I ever moved there was when it was +extremely cold. I have no memory of how I moved to the left side. + + There was an alien standing next to my bed about one yard from +my eyes. Everything was very clear to me; the draperies and wall +decor behind him were exactly the same. The only parts of him I could +see were his thin chest, very thin upper arms, neck, and face. There +was a glow of light in the bedroom, enabling me to see his gray, mot- +tled skin and large, black, almond-shaped eyes. He was only about +thirty-seven inches high; he had no hair. + + I did not try to move; I could only think one thing: "He is +so ugly." I thought that several times until I became fearful he +might be able to read my mind; then I felt sad that he would know that +I thought he was so ugly. + + When the reality of the entire experience occurred to me, it +was over. I was still on the left side of the bed, staring at the +curtains; though it was dark now. I was in awe of what had just +happened. + + I had not been asleep. and it wasn't a dream, for I have had +many dreams in my life. I have always been able to wake up from a + +dream and recognize the fact that I had been dreaming. That exp- + +perience was no dream + The phone rang at 10:00PM. I was very alert when I answered +it. It was a friend of mine who worked for NASA. I told him what +had happened. He said, "You better not tell anyone." + + I did not tell anyone for three months. When I heard a cousin +of mine tell me about a flying saucer he had seen west of Houston, I +told him in the presence of my son about my alien experience. I +turned to my son and asked him if he remembered the night I put him to +bed, and there was a repelling magnetic force between us. He remem- + +bered. I knew he would remember because he sat up in bed and said, + +"That's weird!" Every single time we tried to touch, we would feel +the repelling force. He was amused by the force. I told him that was +the night after I had the alien experience. + + I have no physical proof to prove that I saw an alien; however, +I can say it is the truth that I had that experience, and I had never +before, nor ever since, had such an experience. + + Written by Laura Liccketto + +OK thats all of it, she is also a member of HUFON (Houston UFO Network) she +goes to there meetings and such. + + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3061.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3061.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8dd88428 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3061.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +SUBJECT: ALIEN ON ICE FILE: UFO3061 + + + + + + +Sent: 07 Apr 93 18:43:00 +From: Sam Brandt +Topic: ALIEN ON ICE + +Does anyone know the history of GIF file called alien3.gif, with the +discription "Alien on ice"? That's the way it's listed on the "File Bank" in +Denver. 303-534-4646 +It appears to be a somewhat dessicated alien corpse. The upper chest, mouth, +nostrils and something like a cheek area are visible. Presumably the large +eyes are covered with a frosty ice build up (like one would get in any deep +freeze). I and some friends have done some basic enhancing of the gif file, +and have found some very interesting and convincing segmented structures in +the left nostril and a corresponding area in the right that seems to be more +involved with ice (or frost) build up and not as distinct, but about the same +size and shape. With a little work we also brougt out small evenly spaced +light colored "pegs" just where the teeth in more familiar species would be. +The nose is also very unique and would be highly creative if it were a hoax. +It's a long verticle FLAT bone that appears to be about .75 inches wide and +as long as most of the exposed face. It's the most interesting image I've +seen to date and would like a little background on how the photo was +obtained, when, by whom and any comments on the experience. +The file may be called something else on other boards. ...Hope the +discription helps! +Thank You... +Sent: 26 Apr 93 21:46:00 +From: Steve Muise + + About a week ago a few people on here were discussing gifs +of a "dead alien". If these are the same GIFs that are listed on +Clark Matthew's system (The Wrong Number BBS) I believe I have +identified the creature in the pictures. + Back during the last century sailors would catch rays, cut +the fins off, dry them, and then sell them to the gullible as "Jenny +Hanivers", "Sea Monks", or a variety of other names. Several books +about sealore and sea serpents mention these and there are pictures +of them available. The pictures are identical to the creature seen +in the GIFs. + It is definitely NOT a dead alien. The obvious gills in the +closeup of the "head" are what gave it away. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3062.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3062.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..85a90807 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3062.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +SUBJECT: YOUR CO-WORKER COULD BE A SPACE ALIEN FILE: UFO3062 + + + + + + + YOUR CO-WORKER COULD BE A SPACE ALIEN, SAY EXPERTS + + here's how you can tell + + by: Michael Cassels + National Inquirer + + Many Americans work side by side with space aliens who look human - but + you can spot these visitors by looking for certain tip-offs, say + experts. + + They listed 10 signs to watch for: + + 1. Odd or mismatched clothes. "Often space aliens don't fully + understand the different styles, so they wear combinations that are + in bad taste, such as checked pants with a striped shirt or a tuxedo + jacket with blue jeans or sneakers," noted Brad Steiger, a renowned + UFO investigator and author. + + 2. Strange diet or unusual eating habits. Space aliens might eat French + fires with a spoon or gobble down large amounts of pills, the + experts say. + + 3. Bizarre sense of humor. Space aliens who don't understand earthly + humor may laugh during a serious company training film or tell jokes + that no one understands, said Steiger. + + 4. Takes frequent sick days. A space alien might need extra time off to + "rejuvenate its energy," said Dr. Thomas Easton, a theoretical + biologist and futurist. + + 5. Keeps a written or tape recorded diary. "Aliens are constantly + gathering information." said Steiger. + + 6. Misuses everyday items. "A space alien may use correction fluid to + paint its nails," said Steiger. + + 7. Constant questioning about customs of co-workers. Space aliens who + are trying to learn about earth culture might ask questions that + seem stupid, Easton said. + + "For example, a co-worker may ask why so many Americans picnic on + the Fourth of July," noted Steiger. + + 8. Secretive about personal life-style and home. "An alien won't + discuss domestic details or talk about what it does at night or on + weekends," said Steiger. + + 9. Frequently talks to himself. "An alien may not be used to speaking + as we do, so an alien may practice speaking," Steiger noted. + + 10. Displays a change of mood or physical reaction when near certain + high-tech hardware. "An alien may experience a mood change when a + microwave oven is turned on," said Steiger. The experts pointed out + that a co-worker would have to display most if not all of these + traits before you can positively identify him as a space alien. + + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3063.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3063.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..27dc508c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3063.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,53 @@ +SUBJECT: VARIOUS ALIEN DESCRIPTIONS FILE: UFO3063 + + + + + +Various Alien Descriptions- + +3 feet tall, abnormally large heads with short fuzz on top, skin color +off-white to cream. + +4 feet tall, weight 40 pounds. No teeth, no reproductive organs. + Colorless liquid in body(no red cells, lyphocytes, oxygen carriers) +no alimenatry tract or digestive system. + +5 feet tall, weight 40 pounds, eyes almond shaped, deep set. Head +large as compared to body. No ear lobes, only aperatures on sides of head. +no nose, two nostrils with slight protuberance. mouth-small slit +without lips opening into small cavity. thin neck. Head and body hairless. + Arms long and thin, reach to knees. Four fingers, no thumb, two +middle fingers are much larger than two outside fingers. Legs short and thin. +Skin color beige to beige-gray. Skin texture-reptilian; stratchable, +elastic over smooth muscle(?); no perspiration or body odor detectable. +No teeth, no reproductive organs. + +4.5 feet tall; gray-blue skin-smooth texture, extremely resilent. +Heads oversized, craniums have dark blue markings. Prominent cheek bones. + Large eyes, slanted upwards, no pupils. Hands have three digits, webbed, +claw-like nails. Torso has scaly ribbed skin. No exterior sexual organs. +Feet have three toes with webbing. + +Pale, soft-skinned; dark brown eyes, no hair, eyebrows, or eyelashes. + Heads unusually large and bulging. Small mouths w/minimal chin. No +visible ears. Four feet tall. Facial features seemed Oriental. + +four feet tall, round face and broad forehead, +looking like mongoloids. Blueish-gray skin. +Eyes similiar to cat's eyes with no pupils. + +4.5 to 5 feet tall; thin boned, white flesh. small hands. Smooth skin +very thin, transluscent, bald heads. thin lipped mouths.crinkled ear lobes(tiny), miniature rounded nosesm large eyes(iris app. 1 inch +in diameter) brown in color. No eyelashes or eyebrows. + +4 feet tall, large cranial cavity, mongoloid appearing faces, grey skin. + Large wrap around cat-like eyes, nostrils and ears were holes. slit-like +mouth. hand has three fingers + + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3064.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3064.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..550caa9e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3064.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,143 @@ +SUBJECT: ALBERT EINSTEINS UNIFIED FIELD THEORY FILE: UFO3064 + + + + + + Carlos Miguel Allenda + R.D. No. 1 Box 223 + New Kingston, Penn. + +My Dear Dr. Jessup, + +Your invocation to the Public that they move en Masse upon their +Representatives and have thusly enough Pressure placed at the +right & sufficient Number of Places where from a Law demanding +Research into Dr. Albert Einsteins Unified Field Theory May be +enacted (1925-27) IS NOT at all necessary. + +It May Interest you to know that The Good Doctor Was Not so Much +influenced in his retraction of that Work, BY Mathematics, as he +most assuredly was by Humantics. + +His Later computations, done strictly for his own edification & +amusement, upon cycles of Human Civilization & Progress compared +to the Growth of Mans General overall Character Was enough to +Horrify Him. Thus, We are "TOLD" today that that Theory was +"Incomplete." + +Dr. B. Russell asserts privately that It is complete. He also +says that Man is Not Ready for it & Shan't be until after W.W.III +Nevertheless, "Results" of My friend Dr. Franklin Reno, WERE +USED. These Were a complete Re-check of That Theory, With a View +to any & Every Possible quick use of it, if feasable in a Very +short time. There Were good Results, as far as a Group Math Re- +Check AND as far as a good Physical "Result", to Boot. + + YET, THE NAVY FEARS TO USE THIS RESULT. + +The Result was and stands today as Proof that The Unified Field +Theory to a certain extent is correct. Beyond that certain +extent is correct. Beyond that certain extent No Person in his +right senses, or having any senses at all, Will evermore DARE to +go. I am sorry that I Mislead You in My Presious Missive. True, +enough, such a form of Levitation has been accomplished as +described. True, enough, such a form of Levitation has been +accomplished as described. It is also a Very commonly observed +reaction of certain Metals to Certain Fields surrounding a +current. Had Farraday concerned himself about the Mag. field +surrounding an Electric Currant, We today Would NOT exist OR IF +We did exist, our present Geo-political situation would not have +the very time-bombish, ticking off towards Destruction, +atmosphere that Now exists. + +Alright, Alright! The Destroyer type, AND ALL of its crew, While +at Sea (Oct. 1943) The Field Was effective in an oblate +spheroidal shape, extending one hundred yards (More or Less, due +to Lunar position & Latitude) OUT from wach beam of the ship. Any +Person Within THAT sphere became vague in form BUT He too +observed those Persons aboard that ship as though they too were +of the same state, yet were walking upon nothing. Any person +without that sphere could see Nothing save the clearly DEFINED +SHAPE OF THE SHIPS HULL IN THE WATER, Providing of course, that +the person was just close enough to see yet, just barely outside +of that field. + +Why tell you Now? Very Simple; If You choose to go Mad then you +would reveal this information. Half of the officers & the crew of +that Ship are at Present, Mad as Hatters. A few, are even Yet +confined to certain areas where they May receive trained +Scientific aid when they, either, "Go Blank" or "Go Blank & Get +Stuck." + +Going Blank IS Not at all an unpleasant expierence to Healthily +Curious Sailors. However it is when also, they "Get Stuck" that +they call it "HELL" INCORPORATED" The Man thusly stricken can Not +Move of his own volition unless two or More of those who are +within the field go & touch him, quickly, else he "Freezes". + +If a man Freezes, His position Must be Marked out carefully and +then the Field is cut-off. Everyone but that "Frozen" Man is able +to Move; to appreciate APPARENT Solidity again. Then, the Newest +Member of the crew Must approach the Spot, where he will find the +"Frozen" Mans face or bare skin, that is Not covered by usual +uniform Clothing Sometimes, It takes only an hour or so Sometimes +all DayLong & Worse IT ONCE TOOK 6 MONTHS, to get The man +"Unfrozen". THIS "DEEP FREEZE" WAS NOT PSYCOLOGICAL. It is the +Result of a Hyper-Field that is set up, within the field of the +Body, While The "Scorch" Field is turned on & this at Length OR +upon a Old Hand. + +A Highly complicated Piece of Equipment Had to be constructed in +order to Unfreeze those who became "True Froze" or "Deep Freeze" +subjects. USUALLY A "DEEP FEEZE" MAN GOES MAD, STARK RAVING, +GIBBERING, RUNNING MAD, if His "freeze" is far More than a Day in +our time.ÿ + +Check Philadelphia Papers for a tiny one Paragraph (upper Half of +sheet, inside the paper Near the rear 3rd of Paper, 1944-46 in +Spring or Fall or Winter, NOT Summer.) of an Item describing the +Sailors Actions after their initial Voyage. They Raided a Local +to the Navy Yard "Gin Mill" or "Beer Joint" & caused such a Shock +& Paralysis of the Waitresses that Little comprehenssible could +be gotten from them, save that Paragraph & the Writer of it, Does +Not Believe it, & Says "I only wrote what I heard & them Dames is +Daffy. So, all I get is a "Hide-it" Bedtime Story." + +Check obsever ship crew, Matson Lines Liberty ship out of +Norfolk, (Company MAY Have Ships Log for that Voyage or Coast +Guard have it) The S.S. Andrew Furuseth, Cheif Mate Mowsely, +(Will secure Captains Name Later)(Ships Log Has Crew List on it.) +one crew member Richard Price or "Splicey" Price May Remember +other Names of Deck Crew Men, (Coast Guard has record of Sailors +issued "Papers") Mr. Price Was 18 or 19 then, Oct. 1943 and Lives +or Lived at that time in His old Family Home in Roanoke, V.A. a +small town with Small phone book. These Men Were Witnesses, The +Men of this crew, "Conally of New England, (Boston?), May have +Witnessed but I doubt it. (Spelling May be incorrect) DID Witness +this. i ask you to Do this bit of Research simply that you May +Choke on your own Tongue when you Remember what you have +"appealed be Made Law" + + Very Disrespectfully Yours, + + Carl M. Allen + +P.S. Will Help More if you see Where I can. + + +Z416175 +----------------------------------------------------------------- +Notes in addition to and pertaining to Missive. (Contact Rear +Admiral Rawson Bennett for verification of into Herein. Navy +Chief of Research. He may offer you a job, ultimately.) + +Coldly and analytically speaking, without the Howling that is in +the Letter to you accompanying this, I will say the following in +all Fairness to you & to Science. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3065.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3065.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6411f5ca --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3065.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +SUBJECT: THE ALLEN NEWS PAPER ARTICLE FILE: UFO3065 + + + + + + The Allen News Paper Article + +In the Allen Papers, Carl Allen refers to a newspaper article that +he claims would support his claims. Below is a copy of that newspaper +article: - UFO Joe + + + Strange Circumstances Surround Tavern Brawl + + Several city police officers responding to a call to aid + members of the Navy Shore Patrol in breaking up a tavern + brawl near the U.S. Navy docks here last night got something + of a surprise when they arrived on the scene to find the + place empty of customers. According to a pair of very + nervous waitresses, the Shore Patrol had arrived first and + cleared the place out - but not before two of the sailors + involved allegedly did a disappearing act. "They just sort + of vanished into thin air...right there," reported one of + the frightened hostesses, "and I ain't been drinking + either!" At that point, according to her account, the Shore + Patrol proceeded to hustle everybody out of the place in + short order. + + A subsequent chat with the local police precinct left no + doubts as to the fact that some sort of general brawl had + indeed occurred in the vicinity of the dockyards at about + eleven o'clock last night, but neither confirmation nor + denial of the stranger aspects of the story could be + immediately obtained. One reported witness succinctly summed + up the affair by dismissing it as nothing more that "a lot + of hooey from them daffy dames down there," who, he went on + to say, were probably just looking for some free publicity. + + Damage to the tavern was estimated to be in vicinity of six + hundred dollars. + +---------------------------------------------------------------- + +Patric Macey, an electronic specialist and researcher recounts +this story told to him by another worker called Jim in 1977: + - UFO Joe + + "I was a guard for classified audiovisual material, and late + in 1945 I was in a position, while on duty in Washington, to + see part of a film viewed by a lot of Navy brass, pertaining + to an experiment done at sea...it showed two other ships + feeding some sort of energy into the central ship...After a + time the central ship, a destroyer, disappeared slowly into + a transparent fog until all that could be seen was an + imprint of that ship in the water. Then, when the field, or + whatever it was, was turned off, the ship reappeared slowly + out of a thin fog...Somebody mentioned an incident where one + of the crewmen apparently disappeared while drinking in a + bar. Somebody else commented that the crew were 'still not + in their right minds, and may never be.' There were also + some references to some of the crew having vanished + permanently." + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3066.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3066.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d0478232 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3066.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +SUBJECT: THE TRUTH ABOUT ALTERNATIVE 3 FILE: UFO3066 + + + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +Placed in the public domain from the VANGARD SCIENCES archives +on October 28 1989. KeelyNet (214) 324-3501 + + +The Truth about Alternative 3 from its author, Leslie Watkins + +(This article is taken from the Windwords newsletter) +address not available + + In our June issue, we told you about the controversial book + Alternative 3, by British author Leslie Watkins. In out attempt to + find out if the shocking theories in the book were true, we called + Avon Books, the American publisher; they said the book was out of + print in the states. We called Penguin Books in London and found that + it was listed on their NON-FICTION list. A senior editor there told + us that it was officially classified as FICTION BASED ON FACT. The + author's agent told us it was most definitely fiction. We wrote to + the author himself to try to get the real story, and here is the + letter he sent us. + + + Dear Ms. Dittrich: + + Thank you for your letter, which reached me today. Naturally, I am + delighted by your interest in Alternative 3 and by the fact that you + plan to sell it in the Windwords bookstore. I will certainly + cooperate in any way I can. + + The correct description of Alternative 3 was given to you by the + representative from Penguin Books. The book is based on fact, but + uses that fact as a launchpad for a HIGH DIVE INTO FICTION. In answer + to your specific questions: + + 1) There is no astronaut named Grodin. + 2) There is no Sceptre Television and the reported Benson is also + fictional. + 3) There is no Dr. Gerstein. + 4) Yes, a "documentary" was televised in June 1977 on Anglia + Television, which went out to the entire national network in + Britain. It was called Alternative 3 and was written by David + Ambrose and produced by Christopher Miles (whose names were on + the book for contractual reasons). This original TV version, + which I EXPANDED IMMENSELY for the book, was ACTUALLY A HOAX + which had been scheduled for transmission on April Fools' Day. + Because of certain problems in finding the right network slot, + the transmission was delayed. + + The TV program did cause a tremendous uproar because viewers refused + to believe it was fiction. I initially took the view that the basic + premise was so way-out, particularly the way I aimed to present it in + the book, that no one would regard it as non-fiction. Immediately + after publication, I realized I was totally wrong. In fact, the + amazing mountains of letters from virtually all parts of the world- + including vast numbers from highly intelligent people in positions of + responsibility-convinced me that I had ACCIDENTALLY trespassed into a + range of top-secret truths. + + Documentary evidence provided by many of these correspondents decided + me to write a serious and COMPLETELY NON-FICTION sequel. + Unfortunately, a chest containing the bulk of the letters was among + the items which were mysteriously LOST IN TRANSIT some four years when + I moved from London, England, to Sydney, Australia, before I moved on + to settle in New Zealand. For some time after Alternative 3 was + originally published, I have reason to suppose that my home telephone + was being tapped and my contacts who were experienced in such matters + were convinced that certain intelligence agencies considered that I + probably knew too much. + + So, summing up, the book is FICTION BASED ON FACT. But I now feel + that I inadvertently got VERY CLOSE TO A SECRET TRUTH. I hope this is + of some help to you and I look forward to hearing from you again. + + With best wishes, + Leslie Watkins + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3067.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3067.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e24e1b87 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3067.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,192 @@ + +SUBJECT: COUNTER MEASURES FOR MEN IN BLACK ENCOUNTERS FILE: UFO3067 + + + + + +From: aa245@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Parish) + + + Counter Measures for Men In Black Encounters + + After reading various reports of people who have had +encounters with Men In Black after a UFO related siting or +happening, It has brought to my attention that common, +average people without any previous military tactical or +planing training are defenseless to the tactics that have +been reported to frighten and intimidate these people to be +silent or change their minds about reporting or turning over +any information or evidence to UFO Investigators. I have +decided that this would be a good application of some of my +U.S. Army (Over Training) that I have acquired in my younger +days. This should not deal with weapons or combat, but more +of a counter physiological warfare approach. Although weapons +training and hand to hand combat training greatly enhance +confidence of an individuals ability to cope with an +abnormal encounter situation. It gives you a power platform +to relate from. The so called (EDGE). But knowledge and +reasoning is a greater power and can and should be used first +to avoid any physical conflict. + The key to winning any conflict either mental or physical +is to turn the enemies forces exerted against himself or to +use it for your advantage and to exploit his weaknesses. +Remembering and working from some of the Men In Black +document files I have read, I will try to recreate some +reported situations of Men In Black encounters and give the +reader my responses to repel, stop or eliminate the Men In +Black threat. + First, we will start off with the hypothesis that you have +witnessed an unusual aerial craft and you have reported what +you have seen to the press or radio or television reporters. +That your story was printed or told on radio or television by +reporters. And then a big new black car arrives at your +address with two men dressed in black show up on your front +porch or doorstep. They knock, ring your door bell and you go +to the door and there they are! The Men In Black! You spot +the big knew black car! + +1. They announce that they are from such and such and flash + I.D. at you and quickly put it away. + a. State, you to wish to verify their credentials. Tell + them that you want each of them one at a time to remove + the Badge or I.D. Card plus a drivers licence and one + major credit card for your examination for proof of + identification. + b. State, that otherwise you will refuse to speak to them + and report them to the police for trying to impersonate + an official. +2. This is a common security procedure. Ever try to cash a + check or use a credit card at store? + a. They are trying to cash a check with you using a badge + or I.D. Card. The payment is to gain information. + b. The payment also may include intimating you to keep + silent by the power of their office. + c. Know who you are dealing with. +3. You want to provoke a response from them to judge their + reaction. Remember that you are judging them in the same + manner as store clerk would to decide to cash a strangers + check or approve credit card use. + a. If they are truly who they say they are, they wont have + a problem with complying. + b. If they refuse, State that, 'this conversation has + ended'. This is a standard verbal stiff arm. Ask them + to leave and state that you are calling the police if + they don't and that they can explain who they are to + the police. + c. Retreat and lock your door. Call the police anyway, + whether or not you see them leaving and file a report + of the incident. +4. If they comply with presenting identification, remember + anything can be replicated. Apparent age the item in + relation to it's printed date of issue, use and ware are + harder to fake. + a. Check for the same names used on all items from the + same individual. + b. Check for use of a middle initial or the lack of it. + 4.b.1. If the printed name has a middle initial then + the signed name in hand writing should have it. + 4.b.2 If the printed name doesn't then the signed + name should not have it. + c. Check for the individuals date of birth compared to his + physical appearance. + d. Ask each for his/her social security card number. Use + the palm of your hand it write it down on if you don't + have paper but have a ball point pin or ask them to + wait OUTSIDE while you get it. Never invite them in + while you locate paper and pin! + 4.d.1. All current police computers can I.D. Make + anyone by running a social security number + check. + 4.d.2. Military types will know and remember their + military serial number but have a problem with + recalling their social security number. + 4.d.3. A social security number is this BEST thing to + use to run a computer tracer on an individual + to see if him/her is who they say they are, + date of birth, where the live and who they work + for, valid drivers license and so forth. + 4.c.4. As per the above, a social security number is + better to have in hand from a suspect + individual than his/her badge or I.D. card + number! +5. While looking down at the indentification look at their + shoes. + a. Most military types were only certain types of dress + shoes. + b. Most federal employee types were only certain styles + and types of shoes. + c. Undercover Police will copy each other and wind up + waring the same styles of shoes. Foot care is just as + important to policemen as it is to the military or + postmen. + d. Civilians, non military, non federal and non police + will were anything that strikes their fancy. This means + with no thought as to even the proper style for the + clothes they are waring or (uniformity, ease of care, + durability or comfort) when walking long distances or + standing around for hours. + e. Check to see if the shoes fit the clothes, the right + shoe on the right foot and matched socks. Someone not + familiar with earth dress may have got it wrong. +6. Don't let them lead you into any conversation and let them + do all of talking. Do not elaborate on anything. + a. Uh-haw, Yes, to respond true answers + b. Un-haw, No, to respond to false or no answers + c. Ever try to hold a conversation or get any useful + information with someone that only says uh-haw and un- + hah? +7. Do not invite them into you home, house or apartment! Do + all the talking at the door or porch and in the open were + others may see you, them or both you and them. + a. You don't really know who they are and they are no + friends of yours. + b. You don't know what action they may take when they are + sure that no one else could witness it. +8. Offer them a cigarette if you smoke. If they accept a + cigarette, offer them your lighter. Hand it to them before + they can get their own. + a. Try to wipe the sides of the front and back clean on + the inside of your pocket and remove it from your + pocket holding the side or edges only. + b. When they return the lighter to you let them drop it in + your palm and then let it slide it back into your + pocket. + c. You now have a sample of their finger prints if they + had any so use a soft cloth to remove it later and + grasp it with at the top and bottom only and place it + in a plastic zip lock bag. +9. If they don't accept a cigarette, light up one yourself. + a. If you smoke this will calm your nerves and put you at + ease and possibly offend them at the subliminal level. + This makes none smokers uneasy when placed in close + proximity to a smoker. This gives you another small + piece of the advantage. + b. If the air currents are right for it you can slyly blow + a little smoke their way to judge their reaction to the + cigarette gases in the smoke. + c. You can observe their reaction to consumed cigarette + gases. +10. If they don't accept a cigarette, offer them a beer or + any liquid refreshment you have on hand. Even a glass of + water. But ask them to wait while you go and get it! The + object is to get a finger print sample if possible, not + to let them into your home! +11. If they really bug you and you get a strange feeling of + uneasiness buy their presents at your home, standing + their looking weird, trust your feelings! Excuse yourself + for a moment, get your car keys and walk out right past + them to your car, get in, lock the doors and drive + straight to the nearest police station and park in the + open right in front of it and ask the first policeman you + see to help you to file a report of following and + harassment and file a complaint report! + +Written by: Robert Parish + aa245 Free Net + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3068.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3068.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..88fe631d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3068.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +SUBJECT: WHAT SEMITISM AND UFOLOGY HAVE IN COMMON FILE: UFO3068 + + + + + +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +This article appeared on page 75 of the July '93 issue of OMNI magazine. +Editing is such that those items listed in single quotes were +italicized. + + ANTIMATTER + UFO UPDATE: + Can the Poison of anti-Semitism wreck years of + pristine research into UFOs? + +What do anti-Semitism and UFOlogy have in common? Plenty, say experts like +James Moseley, a long-time observer of the UFO scene and publisher of the +irreverent newsletter, Saucer Smear. Indeed, for almost as long as UFO buffs +have searched the night sky, a few outrageous souls have claimed the existence +of a superrace of aliens in the image of the Aryan ideal. What's more, some +fringe members of the UFO movement have "communed" with aliens prone to +trashing Jews. + According to Moseley, anti-Jewish sentiments first crept into UFOlogy in +the 1950s when self-proclaimed contactees like George Adamski and George Hunt +Williamson described blond, blue-eyed aliens in line with the Nazi ideal. +Later, William Dudley Pelley, head of the U.S.-based fascist Silver Shirts, +tied his anti-Semitic philosophy to Aryan aliens as well. + These sour notes have crescended through the modern-day world of UFOlogy, +too. Since 1989, for instance, a bald, nine-and-a-half-foot-tall alien named +Hatonn has allegedly been communicating -- through a channeler, of course -- +with West Coast publisher George Green. + The gist of the communiques? Hatonn claims that "so-called Jews are +descendants of Khazars, a Mongolian, nomadic tribe." In fact, according to +'The Trillion Dollar Lie', the book supposedly "channeled" by a Tehachapi, +California, grandmother named Doris Ekker, Hatonn rants that the horrors of +the Holocaust never occurred, at least not in the sense that history books +contend. Instead, the alleged Pleiadian, citing as his source the +incendiary and highly anti-Semitic piece of 'human' propoganda, 'The Protocols +of the Learned Elders of Zion', asserts the evils of a group of "elite +Zionists" bent on ruling the world. + In fact, although the 'Protocols' document was long ago proven to be a +turn-of-the century fabrication created by anti-Semitic czarist secret police +-- it was later used by Nazis to rationalize genocide in Hitler's Germany -- +George Green insists it's factual. "The adversary only tells the truth up +to a point," Green claims Hatonn has told him. Pointing to other "throughts" +revealed by the blue-eyed, bolond-haired alien, Green says that Hatonn has +also stated that Hitler escaped to Antartica at the end of World War II and +that the original George Bush was replaced by a synthetic humanoid. +(Bill Clinton may be a humanoid, too; however, it's still too soon to tell.) + Another suspicious note, meanwhile, has been sounded by conspiracy theorist +William Cooper, formerly of U.S. Naval Intelligence. In his book, 'Behold a +Pale Horse' (Light Technology Publishing), Cooper invokes 'The Protocols of +the Learned Elders of Zion' as proof that organized secret societies, +including people of many races and nationalities, are planning to use +the invented threat of E.T.'s to help the destroy governments and religions and +take over the world. + Needless to say, Alan Schwartz, research director of the Anti-Defemation +League of B'nai B'rith, is unimpressed. "Linking 'The Protocols of the Learned +Elders of Zion' to UFOs and plots to take over the world is bizarre, +destructive, hateful nonsense," Schwartz contends. "The notion that 'The +Protocols' has any grain of truth in it has been refuted by scholars and legal +courts around the world." + John Timmerman, vice president of public relations for the Chicago-based +Center for UFO Studies, is annoyed as well. "These fringe elements in UFOlogy +contaminate a field where we are trying to find pristine information," +Timmerman states. "However, serious research has been able to sidestep the +idiotic material that is permeating much of the written literature on UFOs. +Cool heads, I'm happy to say, will prevail." + '-Sherry Baker' + +--- + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3069.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3069.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9ee3e4fe --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3069.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,207 @@ +SUBJECT: HIGH STRANGENESS IN THE ANTELOPE VALLEY FILE: UFO3069 + + + + + +** Begin article ** + + +High Strangeness in the Antelope Valley + +------------------------------------------------------------------ +UFO investigator Bill Hamilton reports on the linkage between +UFO's, abductions, the military, and underground bases. +------------------------------------------------------------------ + +By Bill Hamilton + + +The year 1991 was an unprecedented year for sightings and encounters in the +Antelope Valley of California, embracing the cities of Palmdale, Lancaster, +and Rosamond (Edwards AFB is some 20 miles east of Rosamond.) I was +investigating the reports of sightings associated with a Northrop Skunk +Works facility 20 miles west of Rosamond in the Tehachapi Mountains on the +north side of the valley, when I heard about two witnesses who had +experiences of missing time. These two women, Pam and Jackie, lived within +eyeball range of the facility and had experienced a number of strange +events. In addition, Jackie, who could see the facility clearly from her +property in the high desert, reported two daylight sightings. In each case, +she contends that she witnessed a large disk ascend from the facility and +move eastward along the base of the Tehachapis. Construction workers have +informed me that the facility itself has several underground levels. + +On the evenlng of May 14, 1991, Pam had her strangest encounter ever. +Shortly after 11:00 pm she reports that three "grays" appeared by her +bedside and started to lift her off the bed. She lives in a large, +custom-built pentagonal desert home that has one large room without +partitions. The kitchen, bedroom and living room are open to one another. +She started to struggle with the grays-the four-and-a-half-foot +category--when she spotted a human in the living room area. The man, dressed +all in black, was holding a device that resembled a small TV and dangling a +cord. Pam heard the man say, "You have no electricity." + +At this point she somehow freed herself from the entities and went to grab a +light cord that would switch on a light from her twelve-volt system. The +light would not come on. She then yelled for her husband to awaken. Events +then took a bizarre turn. Hearing their 100-pound labrador, Casey, barking +in the yard, she and her husband went to the north-facing kitchen window. +Her attention was drawn to a man who lay prone on a projecting part of the +roof near a ladder. The man was dressed in full-dress air force blues. The +three grays were now on the ground below the man, as well as a K-9 sentry +dogt that was poised to attack Pam's dog. In the sky over the yard there +were a number of red lights. The man yelled to the grays, "Get her out of +the house," while Pam yelled back, "Don't kill my dog." + +In the wake of this panic, Pam next remembers standing alone outside and +behind their generator shack. The man,the dog,the grays, and her husband +were no longer in sight. Red lights were revolving above her and a thick fog +was emanating from ports set around the large craft hovering above. + +Her next memory was that of awakening, seated on her bed at 3:50 am. I +arrived at Pam's place the next morning and spent all day with her. That +evening we had a local certified hypnotherapist, Miranda Cunha, regress Pam +through the incident. We discovered a mental block in the missing-time +period. A few tidbits emerged from this session. Pam believes that she may +have been taken to a base inside the Tehachapis (the second case that +reported this) and that she was cautioned not to reveal what she knows. She +felt very threatened by this incident. This is just a brief recounting of +only one of Pam's encounters, but significant for its mention of human +involvement and its disturbing implications. Pam is a good observer and very +precise about her experiences. Jackie reports seeing Pam's yard enveloped in +a fog that same night, but does not remember seeing the lights, which may +have been directed downward and obscured by the fog screen put out by the +object. + +Since that night, Pam has also been buzzed by low-flying helicopters. One +military helicopter hovered less than a hundred feet over her yard. Since +there have been some remarkable sightings over this area during the year and +Pam's account raises many questions, I would like to relate other events +that enlarge the scope considerably. + +On May 28, the night of a full moon, I went to a certain observation area in +the Antelope Valley just west of the city of Lancaster and south of the +Northrop facility in the Tehachapi mountain range. Joined by three other +observers, we saw our first aerial light emerge at the crest of the +mountains south of us. The light was white with an amber tinge. It moved +west above the mountain ridge, reached a certain point, then started +strobing fluorescent red and white lights. As it continued to move west,then +northwest, it began to jump and dance erratically. When it reached the far +end of the west valley, I could see a silhouette against the twilight blue +sky. The object appeared to be boomerang-shaped with several strobe lights +dancing around its perimeter. This object suddenly vanished. A second and +third object appeared above the same mountains and followed roughly the same +pattern of activity, except that they continued on their course to disappear +in the distance. The wild "jumpers" were sometimes so erratic that normal +aircraft could not have withstood the structural stresses that would result +from such rapid changes in motion. + +On the following night, with thirteen other witnesses gathered at our desert +observation post, I viewed a spectacular light show starting in the same way +as the previous night's. Researchers and abductees (including Pam and +Jackie) were present. We saw between 25 and 30 objects, several of which +danced and zig-zagged in all directions. One or two of the objects also +disappeared when in clear view. + +In addition to the strobing jumpers, we saw what appeared to be a large +craft maneuvering to the east. It appeared to be triangular with a steady +fluorescent red light on the right and an aquamarine-colored light on its +left tip. This object flew both forwards and backwards and glided silently +sideways. It turned and tilted until it came to the south end of the street +as if it were peering at us. It then tilted on its edge and turned to +proceed back to its point of origin. I snapped four photos at that instant, +but the lights failed to register on 1000 ASA Ektar film. This light show +lasted two-and-one-half hours. + +At one point two air force jets crossed from northwest to south-east and +returned, but did not attempt to close with any of the UFOs. + +Nearby Palmdale is the site of a major Los Angeles Air Traffic Control +Center, as well as several aerospace facllities, and Air Force Plant 42. + +Edwards AFB is a few miles to the north, near the town of Rosamond. Yet no +aircraft were sent out to intercept these strange aerial objects! I phoned +the Edwards AFB Public Affairs Office the next day, and the officer on duty +was extremely interested in our sightings, but could not offer no immediate +explanation for them except to say that he was aware that the Antelope +Valley had several secret projects that might involve advanced technology +aircraft, and that he had no access to that sort of information. + +We feel that the people on these secret projects are well aware of what is +flying in the skies over Lancaster. In the early morning hours of July 25, +Pam and I were watching the valley skies, as we had made it a sort of ritual +during the warm summer nights. At 12:45 am, a string of gold-colored lights +approached silently and rapidly from the west, moving east. The golden +lights were surrounded by a coronal field that may have been ionized layers +of plasma. Some of this "plasma" appeared to be shedding from its source and +trailing behind. As the string reached the city limits of Lancaster, the +lights disappeared one by one. + +At least two other sighting parties viewed this same light string from +separate locations. One of the other parties had a camcorder and starlight +scope, and videotaped this procession of lights. I have a VHS copy of the +tape. After one of the other witnesses mentioned the starlight scope's +ability to enhance night photography to his neighbor, his neighbor bought +one, and on the night of August 1 tested its ability to record the passage +of an airliner over downtown Lancaster. To his surprise, a small lighted +object appeared and raced around the airliner, executing a sharp-angled, +high-speed fly-around, and then faded out against the background stars. I +also have this segment on video and have shown it on San Diego's ABC +affiliate Channel 10, which did a special report on UFOs on their nightly +news in late October. + +One of the most spectacular sightings occurred on November 4. While driving +to work in the morning, Pam spotted a triangular shape over the Antelope +Valley Freeway (Highway 14) at 7:11 a.m. It gave off a bright flash of gold +and green. She was headed south on 60th Street West when the triangular +object appeared. She then entered the freeway traveling south toward +Lancaster. + +At 7:18 am, a very large charcoal-black, arrowhead-shaped vehicle passed +over her pickup truck, which was headed north over the Avenue H overpass. It +had no windows or openings. Running the whole length of the bottom of the +craft was a tubular structure. The craft had no vertical stabilizers and +made no sound. It was traveling very slowly. She estimated its attitude as +300 to 500 feet (very low) and its dimensions as a football field in length +(300 feet) and as wide as the freeway, including the central corridor and +pullovers (about 80 feet). She exited at Avenue I and pulled into an ARCO +station and quickly jumped out to look for the object. The object was +nowhere in sight. + +There have been other peculiar activities and light shows reported to me +from the east side of the valley. Some of these sightings are in the +vicinity of another secret underground facility owned by McDonnell-Douglas +Corporation. Near this facility is El Mirage Dry Lake and Shadow Mountain. +A team of skywatchers from Victorville has seen many strange balls of light +and one huge lighted craft near Shadow Mountain. They have also reported +seeing an identical string of lights on several occasions similar to the one +we viewed on July 25. + +Another abduction case was reported in the Victorville area. The abductee, +Diane, reported being taken to an underground facility jointly occupied by +grays and men in air force uniforms. + +A Victorville psychotherapist is doing extensive work on this case. If we +take these reports seriously, and do not dismiss them as a product of the +witness' imagination, then there are significant implications in the +content of such reports. + +The few informants from the aerospace sector who have approached me have +done little more than cautiously confirm the existence of these underground +bases, the reality of the alien presence, and verified advanced technology +projects. I am not advocating a wholesale belief in any conspiracy scenario +nor do I believe all the tales I hear, + but I am advocating a need for +further careful and cautious investigation based on eye-witness testimony. + +The light shows over Lancaster continue. The "jumpers" are still seen +frequently. Sky watchers are flocking to the Antelope Valley in hopes of +seeing UFOs. + +** End article ** + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. 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But don't make too many ET jokes +around here. These folks are serious about their aliens. Ms. Rose, 41, of +northern Virginia, said she's undergone therapy since she was 18 to fend off +fits of anxiety and depression. It wasn't until three years ago that Ms. +Rose linked the problems to abductions by aliens, she said. "It's a very +serious issue that can and does affect our mental health and belief systems," +she said. Ms. Rose said she grew up feeling like she was being watched and +followed. In her late teens, she remembers feeling compelled to walk into +the forest near her home in Colorado. But she couldn't remember what happened +in the woods until undergoing hypnosis recently, Ms. Rose said. "Imagine +someone coming out of the trees making you take your clothes off and +forcing you through a series of painful examinations," she told the group. "I +don't remember those times, but my body did. That's why I was filled with +adrenalin afterwards. I realized in that abduction that I was nothing more +than a guinea pig. They stripped the clothes off me, did the job they had to +do and just dropped me," she said. + +Shirley Coyne belongs to a Michigan support group for abductees. Ms. Coyne +said she and her husband were abducted in the summer of 1983 by a UFO that +landed in a corn field. After undergoing hypnosis, Mrs. Coyne said she could +remember little gray men cured her of lupus and Addison's disease in the +large domed spacecraft. Her husband can't remember the abduction, she said. +Ed Mazure, state director of Mutual UFO Network, said the experiences of Ms. +Rose and Mrs. Coyne aren't unusual. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. 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The change's evident on state-run television, once a +showcase for morally uplifting and dull "Boy-Loves-Tractor" movies about +building communism, and news reports lauding factories overfulfilling the +Five-Year Plan. Now, six days a week, as part of the breakfast TV program +"120 Minutes," gray-haired mystic Alan Chumak waves his hands on camera to +cure viewers from Minsk to Vladivostok of what ails them. Soviets with heart +disease are requested to watch the self-described journalist on Tuesdays. On +Fridays, Chumak will help viewers get rid of allergies. People with stomach +bugs or bone and muscle aches should tune in on other days. The inability to +watch the program's not a problem. Leave the set on, and a jar of water, +juice or massage cream placed by the TV screen supposedly will be "charged" +by Chumak's gestures and can be used later for treatment. Earlier this +summer, after about a month on the air, Chumak was pulled off "120 Minutes" +by broadcast executives, who said they wanted to make sure his treatment +brought positive results. They must have been convinced the man in his +mid-50s was back on TV waving his hands within a week. Since the days of the +wild-eyed monk Rasputin, hypnotist and confidant at the court of the last +czar, Russians have been intrigued by the occult and fantastic, and stories +about UFOs, vanished planets and ESP have always had an eager audience. With +glasnost, or greater openness, such topics are getting more exposure than +ever in the once stuffy official Soviet media, and despite the firmly +materialistic and rationalist ideology of the ruling Communist Party. In +fact, the unlikely organ in the forefront of the weirdness campaign belongs +to the party itself. The 1 million-circulation daily newspaper Socialist +Industry, an organ of the party's Central Committee, has a mandate to report +on the Soviet economy, but often makes space for news items that have nothing +to do with either socialism or industry. On Tuesday, there was this +intriguing account of invaders from space landing in Central Russia's Perm +region: milkmaid Lyubov Medvedev told the newspaper, "At about 4:30 in the +morning, I was going to the farm when I saw a dark figure seemingly riding a +motorcycle...but when I looked closely at the figure, I noticed there was no +motorcycle, but just something resembling a man, but taller than average with +short legs." The creature had "only a small knob instead of a head," Ms. +Medvedev said. "I was frightened to death...then it became fluorescent and +disappeared." Beekeeper G. Sharoglazov saw two egg-shaped "fluorescent +objects" as big as aircraft hovering at a height of 600-1,000 feet. Others in +mid-July also saw aliens with no heads, the paper said. It quoted V. Kopylov, +Communist Party boss in the Chernushinsky region, as acknowledging that +"something unusual's going on the territory of our two collective farms." It +was Socialist Industry as well that informed Soviets on Thursday of the huge, +fleet-footed hairy creature that terrified residents of the Kirovo settlement +in the Volga basin. "I saw the creature pretty well," said resident R. +Saitov. "It was about 2 meters (6 feet) tall, its body covered with dark +brown hair and it had shoulder-length hair...being a veterinary surgeon, I +can say the creature was neither a man nor an ape." Saitov and a friend tried +to approach the creature after spotting it on the other bank of a pond, but +it bounded away at astonishing speed when they pursued it in a car. The +newspaper noted disapprovingly that Saratov University biologists weren't +taking reports of the sighting seriously or even deigning to talk to +witnesses. The very official Soviet news agency Tass later picked up the +newspaper's story for national and worldwide distribution, headlining it +"Huge Creature Sighted in Volga Region; Men Give Chase." Earlier this week, +however, Tass deflated another Socialist Industry report about a UFO landing. +Last month, the paper reported in great detail on a 26-foot-wide patch of +burned ground found near a southern Moscow highway. It quoted UFO specialist +A. Kuzovkin as saying the grass had likely been blasted by powerful +radiation, which he called probable evidence of the landing of an +Unidentified Flying Object. Not so, Tass reported. Firefighters think a +haystack simply caught fire and scorched the ground. + +08-10-89 OSHKOSH, Wis. Karen Sazama saw something strange during a fishing +trip Thursday, and it wasn't on the end of her fishing hook. At 3:30 a.m. on +waters near Omro, the Milwaukee woman saw what she belives was an +unidentified flying object. Sazama said she told her fishing companion, Gary +Michael Frye, that something funny was going on after the pair saw a light in +the sky. "It was a glowing light, an orangish-reddish light," said Sazama, +who was fishing with Frye in a boat. "I really got scared out there. I was +looking for a place to hide in the boat." Sazama said the light stayed in the +sky from 20 to 25 minutes before it disappeared. The pair were fishing on the +Fox River and Lake Butte des Morts. "The fish weren't even biting," Sazama +said. "We got nothing for fish, not even a bite. I told Mike `I think the +lights had something to do with it."' Frye said the couple rented a boat from +George's Bait Shop near Omro at 7 p.m. Wednesday for a night of fishing. Frye +said he's sure the light was a UFO. "Yes, I would say it was a UFO. It was +something I had never saw before. I do believe in UFOs," Frye said. "(The +light) was bigger than a star. It was falling, but not very fast." The couple +reported their sighting to the Winnebago County Sheriff's Department at about +8 a.m. Thursday. George Wilz, owner of George's Bait Shop, said this's the +first time anyone ever reported an unusual sighting to him. "I know (Sazama) +was all shook up," Wilz said. "To me it's kind of serious." But did the +lights scare off the pair for good? "I don't think this will prevent us from +coming back again," Sazama said. "I just hope we don't see anymore lights +like that again." + +08-22-89 TRUSSVILLE, Ala. Police in Trussville and Dadeville, 60 miles apart, +reported seeing unusual lights in the sky within minutes of each other, but +no one's rolling out the red carpet for UFOs just yet. "I'm not trying to +start anything. I just answered a call with another officer and we saw what +we saw," Trussville police Sgt. Nelson Byess said. "I'm not going to run out +and print up T-shirts and bumper stickers." Byess was referring to the hoopla +generated earlier this year in Fyffe, where people reported seeing silent, +triangular UFOs with lights in the night sky. The numerous sightings never +were explained. Byess said he could not see any shape connected to the +lights, which he spotted after several residents called police about 5 a.m. +Monday. "It hovered for a while, we watched it about 20 or 30 minutes, and +then moved off or faded out as the sun came up," he said. "I never heard any +sound." A little earlier, before 5 a.m., Dadeville Police Chief Terry Wright +had just given a speeding ticket when he saw something in the sky. "I looked +to my left and saw what I thought was the moon behind a cloud, then I +realized the moon was on my right," Wright said. "It was round and bright to +start with, kind of hazy, then it looked like a bright gas and moved out of +sight after about 15 or 20 minutes. There were no colored lights, just +white." Wright thought the bright shape was so odd he told everyone at City +Hall and his wife about it. "I didn't want everyone thinking I was on drugs, +but I never saw anything like it before," Wright said. "Later in the day, +someone said they saw on the TV that Trussville reported seeing something, +too." Information on both sitings will be recorded by Mutual UFO Network +Inc., as the Fyffe sightings were, said section director Jeff Ballard. + +10-05-89 ROCKVILLE, Md. There's a lot of strange stuff happening out there +tales of poltergeists, swamp monsters, maybe even dinosaurs still crashing +through African jungles and Mark Chorvinsky's opened a "strange hotline" to +hear all about it. "The world's a pretty strange place," says Chorvinsky, 35, +a black-clad archivist of the bizarre and investigator of the weird who lives +on a quiet, tree-shaded street in this Washington suburb. "Everybody knows of +something strange that's happened to them, but they never talk about it," he +says. "The only time it's safe to talk, it seems, is around a campfire or +during Halloween." Now they can dial the "strange hotline" at 1-900-820-8361 +to share a scary encounter with the unknown, or hear a tape of Chorvinsky +describing some of his favorites. Among them are the Lizard Man of South +Carolina, the horrific winged Jersey Devil, the Manila vampire and a haunted +stretch of rural Maryland highway where "the dreaded Snarly Yow" hass been +spotted by motorists. Chorvinsky, in fact, recently listened to "one of the +most amazing stories I've ever heard" from a taped message left by an +anonymous hotline caller. It was the tale of an Arizona woman who bought a +giant cactus as a house plant. A few days later, she was alarmed to see the +cactus moving its prickly arms. She fled the house with her children just +before the cactus exploded, releasing swarms of scorpions in her living room. +That's the sort of thing that sends agreeable tingles down Chorvinsky's spine +and fills the pages of Strange Magazine, a twice-a-year compendium of weird +happenings that Chorvinsky founded and edits for an estimated 4,000 avid +readers. He's also a professional magician who performed at the White House +last year, an author who's planning a biography of Merlin the magician and a +filmmaker whose movie short, "Strange Tangents," was screened at the American +Film Institute, the Library of Congress and film festivals at Cannes, Berlin +and Los Angeles. "It's about a young sorceress who tries to save her dying +master with the help of her friend, a 3-foot-tall talking salamander," +Chorvinsky says. To help pay the bills, he operates a science fiction and +magic shop in a Rockville shopping mall where customers can satisfy their +appetites for strange schlock. The shelves are stuffed with dragons and +wizards, crystal balls, Ninja swords, Tarot cards, horror movie classics and +fantasy games titled "Skulls and Scrapfaggot Green" and for laughs "Batwinged +Bimbos from Hell." Although his bushy hair, beard, mustache and suit all in +black give him a slightly fiendish look, Chorvinsky's nobody's wacko. He's a +good-natured skeptic who directs a global network of tipsters and +investigators who track down reports of strange phenomena for scholarly +discussion in his magazine. "I neither believe nor disbelieve this stuff," he +said in an interview. "We have many skeptics who read the magazine, including +myself. I am skeptical but open-minded. I doubt everything but I accept the +possibility of anything." He's never seen a UFO landing in a corn field, but +knows that "the damnedest things fall from the sky," including frogs, fish, +sugar crystals, ice chunks and vast cobwebs spun by airborne spiders. +Mysterious sea serpents like the Loch Ness monster may be the stuff of +ancient folklore, he said, or they may have existed all along as monstrous +species of marine life that somehow eluded discovery by scientists. But what +about the strange booms and bangs in the night? The bizarre mirages of entire +cities in the sky? The spinning wheels of light beneath the oceans? Toads +encased in rock but still alive? "The stories that really intrigue me are +those that give me the greatest feeling of disquieting strangeness," +Chorvinsky said. "The tales so strange they couldn't possibly be explained, +the kind that give you a chill down your spine or make your hair stand on +end. The sort of thing that makes you say, `Ooooh, that's weird'!" < EDITOR'S +NOTE: Reports of strange phenomena may be addressed to Mark Chorvinsky, Box +2246, Rockville, Md. 20852 + +10-09-89 SECAUCUS, N.J. A consultant on the subject of unidentified flying +objects said Monday that reports of a UFO in the Soviet Union with 10-foot +high humanoids aboard would be treated seriously by scientists in that +country. Stanton Friedman, who was in New Jersey to lecture Monday night, +said in an interview that the USSR Academy of Sciences created a Commission +on Anomalistic Atmospheric Phenomena in 1984. The commission was prompted by +a UFO siting near the city of Gorky, said Friedman, a consultant who lectures +on the topic "Flying Saucers Are Real" and who's examined Soviet studies of +UFOs. He said that in April 1988, 300 scientists gathered in the Siberian +city of Tomsk for a conference on "sporadic instant phenomena" and +recommended that the Siberian branch of the Academy of Sciences draft a +proposal on the study of UFO's. Last June, the Soviet publication "Soviet +Military Review" included an article on "UFO's and Security." Friedman said +the authors of the article argued that the computers required to run the +United States' space-based antimissile defense would not be able to +distinguish between missiles and UFO's and would increase the likelihood of +World War III starting by accident. The article calls for international +cooperation on the study of UFO's, Friedman said. "True, there's some +political hype in there," he said. + +10-09-89 MOSCOW It was a close encounter of the communist kind. Towering, +tiny-headed humanoids from outer space landed their UFO in the Russian city +of Voronezh and emerged for a promenade around the park, spreading fear among +residents. At least that's what the official Tass news agency said Monday. +Tass, contributing to a string of weird tales that have crept into the +formerly stuffy state-controlled media in recent months, said in a +straight-faced report that Soviet scientists vouched for the UFO's landing. +"Scientists have confirmed that an unidentified flying object recently landed +in a park in the Russian city of Voronezh," Tass said. "They have also +identified the landing site and found traces of aliens who made a short +promenade about the park." A Tass duty officer, contacted Monday evening by +telephone, refused to identify the reporter who sent the dispatch from +Voronezh, but stood by the story. "It's not April Fool's today," he said. The +Soviet media, unleashed by the Kremlin's policy of glasnost greater openness +feel free now to hype incredible stories that seem more at home in the +supermarket tabloids of the West. Recent examples include other accounts of +UFOs, sightings of abominable snowman-type creatures and a tale about a young +mystic who goes into a trance and flies about the cosmos. A rash of mystics +and ESP-artists also have invaded state TV. In Buffalo, N.Y., Paul Kurtz, +chairman of the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the +Paranormal, commented: "We're extremely skeptical of this claim. It's not the +first one (in the Soviet media). There's many. There seems to be a rash of +reports, largely uncorroborated." According to Monday's Tass report, a large +shining ball or disk was seen hovering over the park by Voronezh residents. +They saw the UFO land and up to three creatures similar to humans emerge, +accompanied by a small robot, Tass said. "The aliens were three or even four +meters tall (almost 10 feet to 13 feet), but with very small heads," the news +agency quoted witnesses as saying. "They walked near the ball or disc and +then disappeared inside." The report resembled a story last summer in the +daily newspaper Socialist Industry, which carried an alleged "close +encounter" between a milkmaid and an alien in Central Russia's Perm region. +In that report, milkmaid Lyubov Medvedev was quoted as saying she encountered +an alien creature "resembling a man, but taller than average with short +legs." The creature, she said, had "only a small knob instead of a head." +Stanton Friedman, a consultant who lectures on the topic "Flying Saucers Are +Real" and's examined Soviet studies of UFOs, said in Secaucus, N.J., on +Monday that Soviet scientists tended to treat the subject more seriously than +American scientists. Last June, the Soviet publication Soviet Military Review +included an article on "UFO's and Security." The Tass report, which did not +give the date of the purported "landing" in Voronezh, said onlookers were +"overwhelmed with a fear that lasted for several days." Genrikh Silanov, head +of the Voronezh Geophysical Laboratory, told Tass that scientists +investigating the UFO report found a 20-yard depression with four deep dents, +as well as two pieces of unidentified rocks. "At first glance, they looked +like sandstone of a deep-red color. However, mineralogical analysis's shown +that the substance cannot be found on Earth," Tass quoted Silanov as saying. +"However, additional tests are needed to reach a more definite conclusion," +he said. Silanov said the landing site and path taken by the aliens was +confirmed using the "biolocation" method of tracking. The agency did not +explain what that was. Further confirmation came from witnesses in Voronezh, +300 miles southeast of Moscow, who were not told of the experiments and whose +accounts coincided precisely with the scientific findings, Tass said. In +July, Tass deflated a report in Socialist Industry quoting a UFO specialist, +A. Kuzovkin, as saying a 26-foot-wide patch of burned ground near southern +Moscow was probably caused by the landing of a UFO. Not so, Tass reported. +Firefighters think a haystack simply caught fire and scorched the ground. +Russians have long been fascinated by the weird and the occult, but formerly +they could glean their information only from rumors and underground copies of +everything from palmistry guides to books on Eastern mysticism. The Kremlin's +economic reforms, with their emphasis on each enterprise paying its own way, +have also given the official press more incentive to cater to readers' tastes +in order to increase circulation. Kurtz's committee's a UFO subcommittee +and's been investigating the claim made by Tass. Kurtz, a professor of +philosophy at the State University of New York at Buffalo, said Monday: +"Since the press freedoms in the last year, increasingly it seems to be open +season. Paranormal pandemonium's broken out in the Soviet Union, not only +with UFOs, but faith healers, astrologers and so on. In a closed society such +as the Soviet Union, you don't get the development of critical reason." He +said the account "has all the characteristics of science fiction." Kurtz +noted that scientist Silanov says the landing was confirmed by biolocation +"As far as we can tell it's a kind of dowsing. We're very questioning of +that. It's hardly a scientific method of testing whether anything's landed or +not." "If this were true," Kurtz remarked, "I think chairman (Mikhail) +Gorbachev would call a press conference and proudly announce that, with +everybody attempting to get out of the Soviet Union, at long last here are +some extraterrestrials in that Union." + +10-11-89 Police and residents in northeast Oklahoma say they have no clue to +the origin of five strange, colored lights that were spotted hovering over +Commerce and Miami late Tuesday. "I couldn't see any kind of a shape to them +at all," Commerce resident Fran Willmert said Tuesday. "But I was looking at +them with my eye. I noticed they were changing color and went from red to +white to blue." Ms. Willmert said she saw the lights from her yard and "had +never seen anything like that before." Commerce Police Chief Bob Baine, who +looked at the lights through binoculars and a high-powered telescope, said +"they were nothing that looked like an aircraft. We don't know what they are. +We'd received a call about 8:30 p.m. of a UFO around the Brunswick plant and +we thought it was a joke," Baine said. "But when officers arrived on the +scene they saw what looked what lights that seemed to move in different +directions." Baine said the five lights were in a group of four, with the +fifth a short distance from the others. "Just a few minutes ago I went out +and took a scope and could see them sitting in kind of a pattern," Baine +said. "There was nothing that I could specify as any shape. They were like +spots or something." Larry Ruthi, a National Weather Service forecaster at +Norman, said a check of area reporting stations indicated no unusual +atmospheric conditions that might explain the sightings. Ruthi said he +contacted a weather office in Tulsa and the Central Weather Service Unit in +Fort Worth, Texas, and both reported nothing unusual happening in that part +of Oklahoma. "An auroral display should have been visible over a larger area +than just Miami," Ruthi said. "Frankly, I'm at a loss as to what they're +seeing." A disptacher with the Ottawa County sheriff's office in Miami, also +said county officers in the field reported seeing "strange lights." "We +thought it was just a hoax but apparently it's real because I've got at least +three, maybe four city units and one of my county units that have seen the +lights." The dispatcher, who asked not to be identified, said the lights were +first reported in Miami and then moved north in the county to between +Commerce and Cardin, near the Kansas border. The dispatcher said country +officers also described the lights as turning different colors. + +10-10-89 MOSCOW A three-eyed alien with a robot sidekick landed by UFO and +made a boy vanish by zapping him with a pistol, a Soviet newspaper reported +Tuesday, in a second day of strange tales in the state-run media. But as the +bizarre saga of the space invasion of the city of Voronezh unfolded for a +second day, a scientist whose words were used to buttress the first published +report voiced doubts, and said he was in part misquoted. "Don't believe all +you hear from Tass," Genrikh Silanov, head of the Voronezh Geophysical +Laboratory, cautioned in a telephone interview with The Associated Press from +Voronezh. "We never gave them part of what they published." On Monday, the +usually staid, official Soviet news agency told the world that scientists'd +confirmed an alien spaceship carrying giant people with tiny heads'd touched +down in Voronezh, a city of more than 800,000 people about 300 miles +southeast of Moscow. As many as three aliens 13 feet tall left the +spacecraft, described as a large shining ball, and walked in the park with a +small robot, Tass reported. A Tass duty officer stood by the story. "It's not +April Fool's today," he said. The purported close encounter in Voronezh was +only the latest weird tale to appear in the Soviet media, which under the +policy of "glasnost" or openness have recently told of other sightings of +UFOs and the Yeti, or abominable snowman. Monday's report spawned rumors in +Moscow, including one that the aliens told Voronezh residents the Earth would +be destroyed by the year 2000 if people didn't stop polluting it. +Nonetheless, a Communist Party paper whose avowed mission's to write about +culture was the only major national daily to print anything Tuesday about the +UFO, indicating more authoritative newspapers like Pravda thought the topic +too hot to handle. Sovietskaya Kultura said its coverage was motivated by +"the golden rule of journalism: the reader must know everything." "Of course, +it's hard to believe in what happened in the town," it reported from +Voronezh. "It's even more difficult to explain." The daily quoted witnesses +as saying the UFO flew into Voronezh on Sept 27. At 6:30 p.m., it said, boys +playing soccer saw a pink glow in the sky, then saw a deep red ball about 10 +yards in diameter. The ball circled, vanished, then reappeared minutes later +and hovered, it said. A crowd rushed to the site, Sovietskaya Kultura said, +and through an open hatch saw a "three-eyed alien" about 10 feet tall, clad +in silvery overalls and bronze-colored boots, and wearing a disk on his +chest. The newspaper, quoting witnesses, gave this account: The UFO landed. +Two creatures, one apparently a robot, exited. A boy screamed with fear, but +when the alien gazed at him, with eyes shining, he fell silent, unable to +move. Onlookers screamed, and the UFO and the creatures disappeared. About +five minutes later, they reappeared. The alien'd a "pistol" a tube about 20 +inches long, which it pointed at an unidentified 16-year-old boy, making him +disappear. The alien went inside the sphere, which took off. At the same +time, the boy reappeared. "Children and eyewitnesses of the abnormal +phenomenon have been questioned by police workers and journalists," wrote +Sovietskaya Kultura's Voronezh correspondent, E. Efremov. "There are no +discrepencies in the description of the sphere itself, or the actions of the +`aliens.' Moreover, all the children who became witnesses to this event are +still afraid, even now." It gave the names of only three witnesses, all +youngsters. Scientists from a nationwide group that investigates "abnormal +phenomena" were looking into the landing, the newspaper said. Silanov, who +said he belongs to the group, cast doubt on the Tass report that quoted him +as saying the aliens left behind two rocks resembling sandstone of a deep red +color that cannot be found anywhere. "The rock they described as +extraterrestrial's in fact a piece of iron oxide which could easily have +originated on Earth," according to Silanov, 50. He said there indeed was "a +landing site" or something resembling one in Voronezh. But he acknowledged +that could happen as well if there were an underground pipe or cable, or an +underground reservoir. Silanov also said the testimony of children between +the ages of 11 and 14 who claimed they witnessed the landing did not always +correspond on how the aliens looked, and that they "certainly didn't mention +the tremendous height" cited by Tass. The phone connection was abruptly cut +off before Silanov could answer more questions. Meanwhile, a Tass editor said +two Moscow-based reporters'd been dispatched to Voronezh to check on the +report on the UFO filed by local Tass correspondent Vladimir Lebedev, a man +he termed a "very serious" journalist. The editor, who spoke on condition of +anonymity, said Tass, through bitter experience, has learned to be wary of +hoaxes. In January, the news agency reported six people'd been rescued after +spending 35 days buried alive in rubble following the Armenian earthquake. It +later retracted the story. + +10-12-89 NEW YORK That extraterrestrial story from the Soviet Union may have +been cleared up those 12-foot, tiny-headed guys who landed in the U.S.S.R. +were just trying to get back to New York City. "Anything's possible," says +Bill Knell, a local UFO researcher who firmly believes there was an alien +presence in a park in the borough of Queens seven months ago. "Absolutely, +there was some type of UFO in Kissena Park." Knell's assertions he also said +there may have been a return visit two weeks ago came two days after the +Soviet news agency Tass reported the presence of ETs in the town of Voronezh. +Since then, scientists have disparaged the report, attributing it to rising +sensationalism in the Soviet press under "glasnost," or greater openness. +Neither story seemed to impress local residents, who were more concerned with +Knell's presence in the park than any report of visiting ETs. "This is my +haunt. I've been coming to this park for years, and there's nothing going on +here," said Julie Ford, shaking her head and laughing. "They say that tree +there was burned by a UFO: it was broken by kids swinging on the branches." +Sure enough, Knell did offer the damaged willow as evidence that something +had beamed down there. But he also offered a mineralogist's report that a +burned oval on the ground contained particles of a type of feldspar quartz +found on the island of Aruba, not in Queens. "We find this amazing," said +Knell, who was joined by several other believers in UFOs. According to Knell, +five people riding a bus on March 9 saw "very bright lights" hovering near a +lake in the park. Since the park is located between Kennedy and LaGuardia +airports, they initially thought it was a downed aircraft, said Knell. Based +on their accounts and other evidence, Knell said, UFO investigators +determined this was a legitimate sighting. Knell thinks he knows why the +people who spotted something in Queens never saw aliens or spoke with them. +"I believe they have their own agenda, and at this time it doesn't include +communication," said Knell, who on Wednesday addressed several skeptical +reporters at the site where the UFO allegedly burned the ground. +Unfortunately, that's also the site where the remnants of a downed tree were +piled, killing off all the grass underneath, said park maintenance man Joe +Mackey, 60. "If there was a spot around here burned out, I woulda known about +it," said Mackey, who spends three days a week in the park. "It's a figment +of somebody's imagination." Perhaps, but Knell's not alone. Some residents of +Mississippi's Delta region say the Soviet description of a UFO is similar to +a fast-moving metallic ball they spotted earlier this month. Lee Abide Jr. +said he first saw the object about three or four months ago. He saw it again +early Wednesday while on his way to work at Abide Aero Flying Service about +five miles south of Greenville. "And it didn't come out of a bottle of +vodka," he said, referring to some speculation about the Soviet witnesses. +Bill Kimmel, a pilot, said he saw the object two days ago while flying to +Memphis, Tenn. He said it was round, metallic, kept changing colors and was +moving 800 to 900 mph at 3,000 feet some distance off his left wingtip. +"There was no way it was a weather balloon because no balloon can travel that +fast," he said. + +10-12-89 EXLINE, Iowa Carol Drake says she was skeptical about Unidentified +Flying objects until she spotted bright reddish lights in the early evening +sky. "I wish somebody would give me a logical explanation so people would +stop teasing me," Mrs. Drake, 48, a farmer near Exline, said Thursday. The +Iowa sighting coincided with two other reports of unidentified lights to the +UFO Reporting Center in Seattle. "We'd reports from Lexington, Ky., and +Topeka, Kan., about a group of lights at very high altitude," said Robert +Gribble, director of the center. "We don't have any explanation. Everybody's +looking at the sky after the Soviet report." The Soviet news agency Tass +reported this week that citizens there saw aliens with tiny heads and large +bodies. "Usually I just get a chuckle when I hear reports about UFO," Mrs. +Drake said by telephone. "I've been getting a chuckle out of the Russian +story. The little kid in me wants to believe there are such things, but I +think it's not sensible. "I did not see any people nine to 12 feet tall, or +whatever the Russians saw." Mrs. Drake was one of many people who saw the +lights early Wednesday evening near Exline, 60 miles southeast of Des Moines +and only a few miles north of the Missouri border. She said a visitor to her +house saw the same thing as did her daughter, who lives several miles away. +"I got her on the phone and said, `Would you run outside and see if you can +see any flying saucers, or whatever it is.' She was gone for quite a while +and then came back and said, `That's bizarre.'" Mrs. Drake said the two +lights changed colors, first reddish and then changing to mostly yellow, and +were like bright headlights in the distance. It wasn't bright enough to +create light on the ground, however, and it wasn't too bright to look at, she +said. She said the lights neither blinked nor made any sound and they were +far above the horizon, thus ruling out lights on farm machinery. She said she +could see transconti7ental jets in the night sky but that their blinking +lights were minuscule compared to the unidentified lights. The lights moved +independently of each other, she said, and frightened her when they moved +directly over her house. "I'm sure there's a logical explanation for it," she +said. Although the lights appeared to be high in the sky, the source was +apparently close to her farm, she said, since she reported the lights to be +east of her house at the same time her daughter several miles away saw them +to the north. Mrs. Drake said she was alone at the time but that a visitor, +John Heubner of Fairfield, stopped by and saw the same thing. Heubner's wife, +Pat Heubner, said her husband called her Wednesday night and was breathless. +"He was so excited. Now I believe in UFOs, but I don't think he did until +now," Mrs. Heubner said. Heubner could not be reached for comment. Another +person who saw the lights was David Foster of rural Exline. "There were two +lights in the sky, then they separated and one went off," he told radio +station KBIZ in Ottumwa. He said the lights were too high in the sky to be +mistaken for farm machinery. The Appanoose County sheriff's office in +Centerville said nobody but the media called about the mysterious lights. + +10-14-89 MIAMI, Okla. The mysterious lights that northeastern Oklahoma +residents have seen in the night sky for the last four days are real, but +they aren't anything to get excited about, a Coffeyville, Kan., astronomy +instructor said Saturday. "It's real, but it's caused by a very natural +phenomenon," said Don Lind, an astronomy instructor at Coffeyville Community +College. "We do have some rather large bright objects up in the night sky." +Miami officials asked Lind to use his computer to see if the lights that have +caused a stir in northeastern Oklahoma could be explained astronomically. Ken +Murphy, a civil defense radio operator, said Friday that numerous reports +refer to three different objects in the sky. The brightest's in the +west-northwest sky, another was in the southwestern sky and the dimest was in +the northeast. Some callers said the lights were flashing blue, red and white +and moving slowly across the sky. Lind found that two planets, two stars and +a turbulent, dusty atmosphere could explain all the sightings. The northeast +sighting's Jupiter the largest planet in the solar system, Lind said. He said +Jupiter's coming up at about 10 p.m. It's about 40 times brighter than the +average star and could appear to flicker through a thick atmosphere. "Being +that low on the horizon, it's in a very thick area of the atmosphere," he +said. "People are seeing this, particularly if they are using binoculars or +a very cheap telescope." In the southwest, Venus's very bright right after +sundown, and Antares appears about the time Venus sets, Lind said. "There's +something in the sky continuously for them to see," he said. And, he says, in +the west-northwest, Arkturus, a Class K orange star, is the only thing that +could be drawing that much attention. "It's been there for a long time, and +people just haven't noticed it. A lot of people now are just wanting to see +things," Lind said. The lights appear to move for the same reason the sun +appears to move the earth's rotation and they appear to flash because of dust +and pollen moving in the warm air on the horizon, Lind said. "The air's very +turbulent. It's moving almost constantly. As these stars are low to the +horizon, you are going to get a substantial amount of distortion," he said. +"Basically, there's nothing up there now that hasn't been up there for +months," he said. "The weather's nice and people are getting out on their +last fling before the winter sets in." Lind said the sightings are +predominant in northeastern Oklahoma and along the Oklahoma borders with +Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas because it's hill country. "They have a history +of seeing spook lights and this sort of thing in that area," Lind said. "They +have been proven to be nothing more than light refractions. The people are +really seeing these things." Isothermal layers or layers of different +temperatures form in the atmosphere above the hills, Lind said. Because light +bends differently in different temperatures, the layers act like a mirror +refracting starlight up and down. The reports of lights conjured images of +unidentified flying objects. Coupled with the pre-Halloween season, the +superstition linked to Friday the 13th and reports this week from the Soviet +Union of close encounters with alien spacecraft, the reports have received +national attention. "These sightings are not at all typical of UFO +sightings," Lind said. "Typical UFO sightings are only by a handful of people +for a very short period of time. These sightings are by many people over +about a week's period." + +10-15-89 COLUMBUS, Ohio While scientists are skeptical about tales that a +9-foot-tall, three-eyed extraterrestrial made a 16-year-old Soviet boy +disappear and reappear, a Columbus researcher says it may be true. The Soviet +news agency Tass reported last week that an alien landed recently in the city +of Voronezh, adding fuel to the debate over whether aliens from outer space +are fact or fantasy. The account of the three-eyed alien's confrontation with +a terrified teen-ager was "confirmed" by a newspaper in the area, Tass +reported. Columbus UFO researcher Don Jernigan, however, says there's a good +chance the Soviet story's true, and that it's one of the thousands of times +aliens have visited Earth. "Nobody's been listening" to UFO researchers' +claims, but that will change now, said Jernigan, who's also president and +founder of the Phenomenon Investigation Committee. "I think this Soviet +report will give credibility to this phenomenon," Jernigan said. "People will +have to give this a lot more serious attention because Tass's the Soviet +Union's official news agency, and they don't have a reputation for playing +jokes. So I would assume this incident's a pretty good basis." But Paul +Kurtz, chairman of the Buffalo-based Committee for the Scientific +Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal, discounts the report. "What's +happening in the Soviet Union since glasnost lifted press censorship's a +National Enquirer-type mentality setting in there," said Kurtz, who visited +the Soviet Union in July. + +10-18-89 KANSAS CITY, Mo. A large fireball of unknown origin streaked across +the sky about sunset Tuesday, according to reports from Missouri, Nebraska +and Illinois. Officials at the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, the Strategic +Air Command at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Neb., and the Whiteman Air +Force Base at Knob Noster, Mo., all received telephone calls from people +who'd seen the fireball. Officials'd no explaination for the fireball. Capt. +Lance Jay at Whiteman said the command center first received a call from the +Howell County sheriff's department about 8 p.m. Witnesses in Howell County +told authorities they'd seen a round object moving in circles about 8,000 to +10,000 feet in the air. Witnesses who called Offutt described the object as +a ball of light that exploded into a streak of yellow before disintegrating. +"Whenever no one's any answers to phenomena like this, people always become +more curious about it," Lance said. "Right now we're not sure what we had." +Kathleen Freuer was driving near Kansas City International Airport when she +saw the object about 7:45 p.m. "I saw this big fireball and my first thought +was that a plane exploded," Ms. Freuer said. "That was how bright it was." +She said the event lasted only a few seconds. Ron Cop of the Federal Aviation +Administration said people reported the fireball from Springfield, Mo., to +Omaha. In addition, pilots in eastern Missouri and western Illinios called to +say they'd seen it. "It was definitely not an aircraft because we didn't have +any missing. It's probably a meteor or some space junk entering the +atmosphere," Cop said. "When you find it breaking up over a wide area like +this, that's usually what it is." + +10-21-89 TUPELO, Miss. The old cliche, "A picture's worth a thousand +words,"'s been taken a step further by Joanne Pankey Cusack, a psychic +researcher who specializes in photographing and interpreting human auras. +Cusack studies the imprints left by fingertips on film to determine a +person's mental, emotional and physical state a process called Kirlian +photography. Then, by reading the patterns and colors on the film, she can +explain why that person acts the way he does, she says. Cusack, a Tupelo +native who recently moved back home, says the theory of Kirlian photography's +based on the medically accepted fact that the body does contain electrical +energy. "The theory's similar to tests such as the CAT scan, which measures +brain waves," Cusack said as she sat at the dining table in her neatly +furnished apartment. "The human body's like a computer. We send out thought +waves, energy follows thought and that, in turn, directs our life." Scattered +across the table in front of her were slides and photos she uses in her +lectures across the United States and Canada. Studying one of the pictures in +her hand she said, "I have always seen energy patterns around people, from +the time I was a small child. I assumed everyone could see what I saw. As I +got older I realized they couldn't and I became interested in finding out +more about the energy our bodies give off." Cusack first heard of Kirlian +photography while living in Houston, Texas. A professor at an Arizona college +was doing research on using the technique as a diagnostic tool. The process'd +actually been discovered decades earlier, in 1939, by a Russian electrician, +Semyon Davidovich Kirlian, who was trying to prove extra-sensory perception +existed. Kirlian photography's done by having a person place his hand inside +a heavy, black bag which blocks out light. The bag's two sleeves with elastic +cuffs and resembles a jacket. Inside's a modified instant camera the camera's +no lens attached to an electric meter. The person puts his hand through one +sleeve and places his fingers directly on the film. The photographer presses +a switch on the meter, causing a tiny electrical charge to run through a +metal plate on the camera. This charge reacts with the electricity given off +by the body and transfers an image to the film. After the person withdraws +his hand, the photographer reaches through the other sleeve and removes the +film. When the film develops, four finger imprints can be seen, surrounded by +halos of color. Cusack said she was fascinated with the process which +recorded on film the energy fields she'd seen around people all her life. She +immediately began her own research in Houston and later opened the Cusack +Kirlian Institute and Gallery in Tucson, Arizona. A friend took an "old +Polaroid camera" and modified it to suit her purposes. She recruited 80 +volunteers who agreed to be photographed repeatedly. Cusack tracked the +changes in their auras in an attempt to find consistent patterns. She was +excited when she was able to document at least 36 distinctly different +patterns and began to make predictions from photographs. In her findings, +Cusack found the predominant colors in the pictures were royal blue, white, +turquoise, and sometimes red. Royal blue seemed to reflect a person's +magnetic field, Cusack said. She explained the term by saying, "It shows the +way they draw similar people to them." White shows creativity, she said, and +turquoise shows the amount of emotional balance a person may have. If red, or +other dark colors, shows up in the photo, the person's experiencing anger, +anxiety or stress, she said. The shape of the halos also explains much about +the person, Cusack said. Breaks in the halo may signal an illness. If no halo +shows up on the photograph, a person may be close to death. Cusack said +experiments done with corpses didn't show halos. She pointed to a series of +three dated photographs taken of the same man's hand. In the first photo, the +halo of color around the fingertips was barely visible, in the second the +band of color was wider and brighter, and in the third the halo'd shrunken +almost to its original size. Cusack noted the first photo was taken after the +man'd been severely depressed after being diagnosed with cancer of the +pancreas. In the second photo, his disease was in remission and his attitude +was more positive. The third photo was taken shortly after a visit with +friends who told him he should just accept his fate and prepare to die. +Cusack said the negative attitude of the friends affected her client's own +attitude, which in turn depleted his positive energy. "The patterns in the +energy field change as attitudes change," she said, adding that she believes +that all people who come in contact have an effect on each other's energy +field. "A person can pick up the magnetic energy, whether it's positive or +negative, from other people's bodies," she said. "That's why I try never to +hang around negative people for very long." When Cusack's work with Kirlian +photography became well-known, she spent much of her time traveling and +lecturing. She hosted her own radio show in Houston, Texas, and a television +talk show in San Antonio. She was also a guest on several talk shows, +including "PM Magazine." On one live television talk show, Cusack's theories +were put to a dramatic test. Cusack remembers the hostess of the show as +smiling, poised, beautiful and famous. She asked Cusack to photograph her +fingertips with the Kirlian camera and interpret the results on the air. +Cusack did so and was appalled when she peeled back the instant picture to +find a photograph that reflected anger, stress and extreme illness. Cusack +stammered something about the camera malfunctioning and asked to take the +photo again. Again, the halos in the picture were broken with dark lines and +shot through with dark red. Cusack took a third picture with the same result. +Luckily, she said, at that moment the show paused for a commercial break. +Cusack took the moment to tell the hostess privately what she saw in the +photograph. "It showed me that she was very ill and under extreme emotional +stress, that she'd had a nervous breakdown recently and that she'd probably +even tried to take her own life," Cusack recalled. "The lady just looked at +me for a minute and then said, `When we go back on the air, tell the audience +exactly what you just told me.' So I did." The women then admitted that +everything Cusack said was true. She'd had a nervous breakdown and'd tried to +commit suicide after being diagnosed with cancer. She'd also been divorced +and her husband was trying to take her children. Months later, after the +woman'd resolved some of her problems, she asked Cusack to take another +picture in a private session. This time, the photo showed a positive reading +with no red visible in the picture. Through the years, Cusack's photographed +the fingertips of a woman two hours before death and the hands of psychics +and healers from around the world. She's done a special study of people who +claim to have'd close encounters with extraterrestrials. Several months ago, +she returned to her parent's home in Sherman to care for them during an +illness. After their recovery, she decided to stay in Tupelo as a "home base" +between her lecture tours. She plans to apply for a grant to continue her +research with Kirlian photography as a diagnostic tool for mental, emotional +and physical illness. Though some critics view Kirlian photography as more of +a religious tool than a scientific one, Cusack said one of her main goals's +to help erase that "fine line between science and religion." She pointed out +that hundreds of years ago, today's medical science would have seemed like +fantasy. "When we can prove even one aspect of the unseen becoming seen, the +blending of spiritual and scientific search will produce a new age of +knowing," she said. + +10-23-89 ASPEN, Colo. Author Bud Hopkins says thousands of people have close +encounters with aliens each year, but are either unwilling or unable to +discuss them. Hopkins was one of 150 participants in a "Close Encounters of +the Fourth Kind" weekend conference which included leading researchers, a +former NASA Astronaut and seven people who claim to have been abducted by +aliens. "Skepticism's fine. Ridicule isn't, said Hopkins, author of the book +"Intruders." "We have to raid the public's level of consciousness," he said. +"If these stories were just fantasies, you would expect a lot of variation," +sid Ed Bullard, another author and UFO reseracher. "But there's a profound +coherency, an order in what they say." Aspen already may have'd its +consciousnes raised. Reports coming in over the weekend included one from a +police officer, of strange lights flickering over the mountain tops. Travis +Walton, who says he was abducted from a lumber camp in Arizona and +transported to an alien spacecraft "for five days, six hours" in 1975, +decided to make a rare public appearance at the meeting. "I want people to +understand, to accept, said Walton, 36, who talked of a rare "multiple +witness" case now famous in UFO reserach. Walton said he'd stopped his truck +to investigate a strange light that he and his six co-workers saw. Walter +approached the light and was "hit by a nasty beam" and whisked up to the +craft, he said. "When I came to, I was aboard, I was lying on my back and +they'd some sort of object across my chest. My coat and shirt were pushed +up," he said. Medical tampering with human victims's a common thread in +close-encounter tales. "I believe genetic experiementing's at the heart of +the whole thing," Hopkins said of the abduction phenomenon. Hopkins said he +sees the alien presence as manipulative, not helpful, a point which touches +on a current hot topic in the UFO research community. + +10-24-89 PINE BLUFF, Ark. A Jefferson County woman says she saw a bright +white globe with a red core hovering about 100 feet over the treetops near +her home Monday night and sheriff's deputies say they saw the object. Cora +Walker of near Pine Bluff said she watched the globe hover for about an hour +before calling the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office. "It came out from the +northeast at a rapid speed, and it went to the southwest," Ms. Walker said. +"Then it stood still." She started calling her neighbors. "It was a bright +light and then from it, it looked like a red flare," she said. "I've never +seen anything like it." After about an hour, the light started slowly moving +out of sight, she said. "It went straight down like a moon," she said. "I +don't know what it was, but it was a strange object." Sgt. Bernard Adams of +the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office and Deputy Mark Bradley said they +watched the object until it disappeared somewhere over Watson Chapel about +9:30 p.m. Sheriff's dispatcher Glen Hopkins said several deputies reported +seeing the bright light moving from the west to the east and then back again. +He said it was also seen in Grant County. The sheriff's office notified the +Federal Aviation Administration, but FAA officials'd no radar contact with +the object, Hopkins said. Hopkins said he'd no idea what the object was. "All +I can tell you's I'd three officers who saw it," he said. Adams couldn't +identify what he was looking at, either. "I don't know really what it was," +he said. "Whether it was a weather balloon or a satellite or what, I don't +know. To me, it was just bright lights in the air. "It did move, and it +completely disappeared afterward," he said. "It was real bright. Adams said +Pine Bluff Arsenal employees also reported seeing the object. Bradley was on +patrol just south of Pine Bluff on Highway 81 when he saw the bright white +light hovering about 150 yards above the treetops. "Someone asked me if I'd +seen a UFO, and I told them I saw an object and it was unidentified and it +was flying," Bradley said Tuesday. "When I put the binoculars on it, it was +just a white light and every once in a while you could see some red mixed in +it. The light was so bright you couldn't determine any shape to it." Bradley +said the light started to move west toward Watson Chapel, which ruled out the +possibility of the object being a weather balloon, because the winds were +from the south at the time, he was told. Larry Simpson, a disc jockey for +KCLA radio station, said he was flooded with phone calls from people in the +area who saw the strange light. + +10-30-89 INDIANAPOLIS Reports of ghosts and haunted houses are the stuff of +Holloween legend and paranormal experiments, but to a group of 51 Hoosiers +they're, well, sheer poppycock. In fact, spirits and superstitions don't +stand a ghost of a chance against the Indiana Skeptics, a group of teachers +and scientists who endeavor to find rational explanations for paranormal +reports. "If someone believes he's seen a ghost or UFO visitor, it's simply +a mistake, a hallucination...or a hoax. They exist only in the mind," said +Robert Craig, the founder and chairman of the group. Craig says the Skeptics +are willing to go to the scene of UFO sightings, haunted houses, seances and +other paranormal events and literally chase the ghosts away through the power +of reason. So far, the year-old group's had no takers, but Craig's examined +Indianapolis' Hannah House, which's a reputation for being haunted. Some +visitors have reported experiences ranging from loud, unexplained noises in +the night and inanimate objects that move to shadowy figures in passageways +and an overpowering stench of burning flesh that wafts up from the basement, +where runaway slaves supposedly were killed in a fire. "All I found was a +fascinating, well-maintained older home," said Craig, an associate instructor +in multicultural studies at Indiana University. He says the sounds are caused +by unseen animals or pranksters; the objects are moved by absent-minded +visitors; the figures are imaginary. Even the scent of burning flesh can be +explained rationally. "Studies have shown that when the olfactory sensory +cells in the brain become stimulated or disturbed, as they might if you think +you're in a haunted house, the most common perception's the scent of burning +flesh," Said Craig. The same may be said for out-of-body experiences, which +many people report following life-threatening traumas such as surgery or an +auto accident. "The feeling of lightness, of numbness, of floating above your +body and sensing a warm light are part of the body's normal response to +trauma," says Craig. Paranormal experiences can also be triggered by +religious beliefs and by perpsychological stimuli, such as repressed +sexuality, he said. Craig said about 4 percent of the population's +"fantasy-prone," given to believing that paranormal experiences happen to +them regularily. He said the group tends to share many of the same +characteristics: Excessive reliance on fantasy during childhood. Emotions +that run high and often unchecked. Unusual literary tastes, especially at an +early age. A personal world-view in which the individual's either universally +persecuted or unanimously beloved. A physiological brain disorder called +Temporal Lobe Syndrome, which's symptoms similar to those of epilepsy and can +induce a trance-like state in which chemical changes take place in the body, +resulting in altered perceptions. + +10-30-89 DALLAS Purveyors of parapsychology are complaining that they are +innocent victims of fundamentalist Christians, who have mounted an offensive +against Satanic religions that's persuaded many school officials to drop or +tone down Halloween celebrations. A number of psychic fairs have been +canceled nationwide recently under pressure from Christian groups, including +one in Garland this past weekend and an earlier one in San Antonio. "It +bellied up because we got calls from some Bible beaters who thought it was +cult-related and Satanic," said John Lehman, owner of the North Dallas County +Farmers Market, where the Garland fair was to have been held. "I hated to +buckle under to pressure, but every customer you lose's one that's lost for +good. It's probably not worth offending people." Psychic fairs feature +demonstrations by practitioners of parapsychological arts such as fortune +telling, tarot card reading, and "aura audits." In addition, a number of +vendors show up to hawk materials relating to new age beliefs, such as quartz +crystals, music and books. "There's been quite a few psychic fairs canceled +lately," said Len Ponath of Southwestern Parasychology, Inc., who'd planned +to attend the show. "Christians are saying psychics are Satanists, too, and +we're all getting lumped in together," he said. "But it's not the same +thing." Al Burt, who sells books and jewelry oriented to new age beliefs that +promote peace and worldwide harmony, said he thinks the oppression being +suffered by many parapsychological practitioners will not diminish soon. He +said the Christians were galvanized by events such as the murders in +Matamoros, Mexico, and are lashing out at anything they don't understand. +"They remain ignorant of what they attacking," Burt said. "There are a lot of +psychics out there and some of them probably do practice black magic. But the +majority them try to steer as far away from that practice as possible." +Ponath said he believes the same paranoia that hit the psychic fairs's +responsible for mistaken anxieties about Halloween. He said true Satanists +don't have rituals on Halloween, but instead scheduled ceremonies on the day +before and day afterward. "So many people were leaving the church, they'd to +do something to stop them, so they started attacking Satanists," he said. +"But take a lot at them Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart." Lehman said he wishes +the psychic fair could have gone on as scheduled, but he feared he would take +much criticism if it did. "I'd somebody get up in my church and say children +shouldn't wear witches and skeleton outfits on Halloween," Lehman said. "But +my feeling was that Halloween was only a lot of fun. My personal feeling's +that people who believe Halloweeen's bad are people who are not really sure +what they believe." + +10-31-89 Hell's Half Acre, Devils Courthouse and other spooky spots abound in +North Carolina for trick-or-treaters bored with their old haunts and looking +for a little extra horror this Halloween. For starters, how about +trick-or-treating in Transylvania County? Local historian Betty Sherrill's +not sure why this western county was named for the eastern European home of +the notorious bloodsucking County Dracula. She said it probably'd more to do +with the translation of Transylvania, which means "through the woods," than +any propensity on the part of local folks to rise from the dead and go out +seeking donations for the Red Cross. For would-be ghouls looking for +vampires, Mrs. Sherrill suggests they try Bat Cave, a town located along the +Broad River in northeast Henderson County. The caves for which the town's +named are part of a 93-acre nature preserve and at one time were home to a +large population of the winged mammals, including at least one endangered +species. Hell's Half Acre, a town that sounds like a B-grade horror flick, in +fact's a peace-loving community of about 125 people in northwest Caswell +County, better known now as Providence. But in the early 1900s, it housed a +saloon, and a good deal of drinking and carousing went on, earning the town +its rough-sounding name, says J. Louis Oakley, 59, who was the town's first +postmaster. The Outer Banks community of Kill Devil Hills got its name from +a kind of rum that once was favored by the locals. Indians believed that his +Satanic majesty sat at Devils Courthouse in judgment of "all who were lacking +in courage or'd strayed from a strict code of virtue," according to a sign at +posted at the base. The mountain of jagged rock looms over the Great Smoky +Mountains National Park from a vantage point near the Haywood County line in +the Blue Ridge parkway. + +11-02-89 CHESHIRE, Conn. When the official Soviet news agency Tass reported +a UFO sighting earlier this month, John W. White was among the earliest to +doubt the story, even though he's a firm believer in the extraterrestial. +White, a 50-year-old author and educator, said claims that 10-foot aliens +debarked the UFO and briefly abducted a 16-year-old boy in the city of +Voronezh, 300 miles south of Moscow, just didn't make sense. Most +significantly, a majority of people reporting contact with aliens have +described the creatures as being only about 4-feet tall, White explained. +Despite doubts about the sighting, White said UFO enthusiasts are +investigating the matter. "I would have liked for it to be true," White said. +"But the report was so bizarre, I'd to be very skeptical and doubted the +authenticity of it. We have to make sure it was not some hoax, or some +fantastic embroidery." Since he was a child, White's been fascinated the +unknown and the unexplained. As a teen-ager growing up in Cheshire, this +interest was satisfied by reading science fiction. But as he progressed +through undergraduate and graduate school, White came to believe UFO's are +real and not just fiction. He began to studying the subject and in the +process built an international reputation. He's written 14 books and numerous +magazine or newspaper articles about UFOs and contacts with aliens. The +primary focus of his research's been of the religious or pyschic aspects of +the UFO phenomenon. "I'm trying to bring education and credibility to the +subject," White said. As part of that continuing effort, White's organized +his third annual UFO conference, which will be held on Nov. 11 and 12 at the +Ramada Inn in North Haven. White and 11 other leaders in the field of UFO +research will speak to about 150 people who have paid $150 apiece to attend +the gathering. People will be coming from as far away as Seattle, Wash., and +western Canada. A total of 20 states and Canada will be represented at the +conference, White said. Among the speakers will be Walter Andrus, the +international director of the Mutual UFO Network, the largest UFO +organization in the world; and Whitley Streiber, a best-selling author of +non-fiction books. A University of Connecticut psychology professor also will +report on the result of his extensive interviews with people who claim to +have seen UFOs. "It's a chance for people who attend to have direct access to +researchers and contactees (those who've met aliens). Essentially, it's a +forum for public education," said White. Despite his long-time belief in +UFOs, White's only seen an unidentified flying object once in his life, and +that sighting occurred just two years ago in April in New York state. White +said the sighting also was witnessed by his oldest son, a neighbor and some +of their friends. "It was a brilliant red rectangular light that rose from +behind a tree line," White recalled. "It hovered motionless, and as it did +so...it changed its dimensions to about three times its previous size for +about 10 seconds. Then it returned to its previous size and sank behind the +tree line." White said he attempted to locate the exact area where he'd seen +the light, but he was unable to get to it because it was a swampy area. But +he said he's convinced it was a UFO. "What it was I can't say. It didn't have +a valid structure that I could see," he said. + +11-06-89 CHESHIRE, Conn. When the official Soviet news agency Tass reported +a UFO sighting last month, John W. White was among the earliest to doubt the +story, even though he's a firm believer in the extraterrestrial. White, a +50-year-old author and educator, said claims that 10-foot aliens debarked the +UFO and briefly abducted a 16-year-old boy in the city of Voronezh, 300 miles +south of Moscow, just didn't make sense. Most significantly, a majority of +people reporting contact with aliens have described the creatures as being +only about 4-feet tall, White explained. Despite doubts about the sighting, +White said Unidentified Flying Object enthusiasts are investigating the +matter. "I would have liked for it to be true," White said. "But the report +was so bizarre, I'd to be very skeptical and doubted the authenticity of it. +We have to make sure it was not some hoax, or some fantastic embroidery." +Since he was a child, White's been fascinated the unknown and the +unexplained. As a teen-ager growing up in Cheshire, this interest was +satisfied by reading science fiction. But as he progressed through +undergraduate and graduate school, White came to believe UFO's are real and +not just fiction. He began studying the subject and in the process built an +international reputation. He's written 14 books and numerous magazine or +newspaper articles about UFOs and contacts with aliens. The primary focus of +his research's been of the religious or pyschic aspects of the UFO +phenomenon. "I'm trying to bring education and credibility to the subject," +White said. As part of that continuing effort, White's organized his third +annual UFO conference, which will be held on Nov. 11 and 12 at the Ramada Inn +in North Haven. White and 11 other leaders in the field of UFO research will +speak to about 150 people who have paid $150 apiece to attend the gathering. +People will be coming from as far away as Seattle, Wash., and western Canada. +A total of 20 states and Canada will be represented at the conference, White +said. Among the speakers will be Walter Andrus, the international director of +the Mutual UFO Network, the largest UFO organization in the world; and +Whitley Streiber, a best-selling author of non-fiction books. A University of +Connecticut psychology professor also will report on the result of his +extensive interviews with people who claim to have seen UFOs. "It's a chance +for people who attend to have direct access to researchers and contactees. +Essentially, it's a forum for public education," White said. Despite his +long-time belief in UFOs, White's only seen an unidentified flying object +once in his life, and that sighting occurred just two years ago in April in +New York state. White said the sighting also was witnessed by his oldest son, +a neighbor and some of their friends. "It was a brilliant red rectangular +light that rose from behind a tree line," White recalled. "It hovered +motionless, and as it did so...it changed its dimensions to about three times +its previous size for about 10 seconds. Then it returned to its previous size +and sank behind the tree line." White said he attempted to locate the exact +area where he'd seen the light, but he was unable to get to it because it was +a swampy area. But he said he's convinced it was a UFO. "What it was I can't +say. It didn't have a valid structure that I could see," he said. + +11-09-89 GRAND FORKS, N.D. More than a year after he first reported UFO +encounters, University of North Dakota professor John Salter still's +convinced they happened even though others may have doubts. Salter, who +chairs the Indian Studies Department at UND, recently mailed letters to +friends and fellow faculty members listing 18 physical changes he attributes +to encounters with extraterrestrials on March 20 and March 21, 1988. Among +the changes are improved skin tone, circulation, eyesight and hair growth, he +said. "After all these years, I have a 5 o'clock shadow," Salter said, +smiling and rubbing his chin. He also said he stopped smoking in May after 35 +years of heavy tobacco use. Salter, 55, hasn't been checked by a doctor +partly because he didn't think it was necessary. Salter, president of the UND +chapter of the North Dakota Higher Education Association, was the 1989 winner +of a Martin Luther King Jr. Award from Gov. George Sinner for his +contributions to civil rights causes. For the past year, he also's been +coordinator of the North Dakota chapter of the Mutual UFO Network. He says +it's about two dozen members and helpers in the state. Salter remembers +seeing an alien about 6 feet tall while visiting a field near Richland +Center, Wis., on March 20, 1988. He also reported seeing three or four +smaller aliens in the Wisconsin woods. He and his son John Salter III, 24, +now of Quincey, Calif., reported more than an hour of "lost" time a period +blanked out in their memory as they drove a pickup truck near Richland +Center. The next day, they said, they saw what appeared to them to be a +silvery, round spacecaft five miles east of Peoria, Ill. Bernard O'Kelly, +dean of the UND College of Arts and Sciences, said he considers Salter a +credible source, and he's keeping an open mind about the professor's report. +"I certainly believe he's a fine academic citizen," O'Kelly said. "He's not +the first person I've heard of to have'd experiences related to UFOs." Salter +said he's received positive support from family, friends and students. "I +don't think I've encountered any open skepticism," he said. "It should be +reasonably clear I haven't fallen out of my treehouse." Salter thinks the +visitors to Earth may have inserted "a transplant" that caused the changes in +his body. He said he's pieced together details of the visit on March 20 +through "recalls," or memory flashbacks, of the time he and his son couldn't +account for in Wisconsin. The younger Salter, who's the director of an Indian +education center in northern California, hasn't'd similar recalls and +physical changes, but his father said his psychic powers have increased. John +Sr. said he's discussed the UFO experience in detail with fellow UFO network +member Kevin Henke, a chemist at the UND Energy and Environmental Research +Center, and occasionally with student groups and other faculty members. +"Although it's a very unusual case, I do have a tendency to believe he's +telling the truth and that what he's seeing's real," Henke said. +"Unfortunately, he doesn't have anything really tangible to prove it," Henke +added. "He's had some physical changes. From a scientific point of view, +you'd like to have a medical examination before and after." + +11-14-89 MILLERSBURG, Ohio Holmes County residents reported strange lights in +the sky, and a resident called the sheriff's department to investigate a +circular depression on their front lawn, authorities said Tuesday. According +to a sheriff's department news release, a family in Monroe Township +discovered the ring, about 7 inches wide and 45 feet in diameter, Saturday +afternoon. The family's no explanation for the phenomenon, the news release +said. In areas where the grass'd been matted down, the ring was about a +half-inch deep, the sheriff's department said. Judy Neville told authorities +that other than the family dogs' unusual barking early Saturday morning, no +one heard or saw anything out of the ordinary. Sheriff's Deputy Dale Renker's +investigating the incidents, the department news release said. Renker could +not be reached for comment Tuesday. + +11-16-89 POCATELLO, Idaho Stanton Friedman says three decades of +investigation have given him "overwhelming evidence" that Earth's had +interplanetary visitors and governments have hidden the evidence of those +visits. "Please don't reach a conclusion until you've examined the relevant +evidence," he told about 700 people at an Idaho State University speech +Tuesday night. One of the hardest pieces of evidence Friedman cited's a 1952 +memo from the National Security Council to president-elect Dwight Eisenhower, +which stated that the government recovered four alien bodies from a UFO crash +near Roswell, N.M. The memo, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, +says the bodies were recovered about two miles from wreckage spotted by a +rancher after a severe lightning storm. Friedman said 75 percent of it was +deleted before's was released. Attempts to get more information on that +incident have been stymied because much of the NSC material from Eisenhower's +presidency remains classified and's exempt from automatic declassification +based on its age, he said. Although an initial press release told of the +incident, the next day the Army Air Corps claimed it was actually a weather +balloon radar disk. Pieces of a radar disk were shown to reporters the next +day, but Friedman said some of the participants have admitted those were +faked. An FBI memo confirms that the material in federal custody's not a +weather radar disk, he said. A group called Citizens Against UFO Secrecy's +unsuccessfully sued the Central Intelligence Agency to get documents related +to the Roswell incident, he said. The documents refer to Operation Majestic +12, the title given to the incident by federal authorities. Friedman said he +and a colleague have talked to more than 100 people connected to the Roswell +incident. He said governments use secrecy to keep information about more +advanced technologies away from other countries and because "Nationalism's +the only game in town. No government wants its citizens to owe their primary +allegiance to the planet." He said residents of this planet "must stop +believing we're the most advanced life form. Twenty-five thousand children +die each day on our planet, most from preventable causes. How do you think we +look to those from other planets?" Friedman said he commuted to the Idaho +National Engineering Laboratory periodically from 1956 to 1959 while working +for General Electric in Cincinnati. He said he was involved in planning the +flight test facility for the nuclear powered aircraft that was built at INEL. +That project, he said, had the potential to become an interstellar propulsion +system. His lecture was built around refuting the people he calls "noisy +negativists." He cited four reasons that most scientists and journalists +haven't pursued UFO phenomena: Ignorance of relevant evidence; "The laughter +curtain," a fear of ridicule which limits reports of sightings and +investigation of them; Egotism among science and government experts, who say +aliens certainly would have sought them out; An unwillingness to apply the +latest technology to studying UFOs. He said that although scientists will +admit there are billions of stars in billions of galaxies, "They assume you +can't get there from here. Future technology's not an extrapolation of the +past. Progress comes from doing things differently in an unpredictable way." + +11-24-89 FYFFE, Ala. Unidentified, banana-shaped flying objects over Fyffe +were no match for Soviet space creatures in a magazines's annual ranking of +planet's strangest phenomenon. The sightings in February and March of +brightly lighted objects over the northeast Alabama town finished ninth on +the 1989 list compiled by Strange magazine. Fyffe Police Chief Junior +Garmany, who along with his assistant saw a UFO, said he understood how the +editors could rank the Soviet UFO first. "The Soviet Union one may have been +more unusual an occurrence than ours," Garmany said. "I imagine the +magazine'd a hard time ranking these things, though. All I can say's what we +seen was real, and it's unexplainable to this date." The September landing of +space creatures in the Soviet Union as reported by the official government +news agency Tass took the top spot in the magazine's Top 10, which will be +published in the March issue. "The Alabama UFOs were very odd because police +officers witnessed them, but we'd to rank the Russian Tass alien case number +one because it was covered worldwide and because Tass's such a serious news +agency," said Mark Chorvinsky, editor of the magazine, which's based in +Rockville, Md., and's a circulation of 5,000. On Feb. 10 at 8:30 p.m., while +responding to a call from a Sand Mountain homeowner who reported seeing a +peculiar flying object, Garmany and Assistant Police Chief Fred Works said +they spotted a brightly lighted object hovering above a dark county road. +Chorvinsky said Strange's the only magazine that takes "an objective look" at +such occurrences. "The position of the magazine's we do not believe what we +print, but we also do not disbelieve it." The editorial staff compiled the +list from more than 3,000 unusual occurrences featured in the bi-monthly +magazine during 1989. Other phenomena that made the top 10 included: +sightings in Greece of a "25-foot entity that resembled a frog," more than +600 symmetrical circles of flattened crops in southern England, and a 30-mile +swarm of cobwebs that fell from the sky in Dorset, England. + +11-27-89 POCATELLO, Idaho The losses are mounting again in southeastern Idaho +amid another rash of cattle mutilations that have left ranchers and lawmen +grasping for explanations. "It's really frustrating us and frustrating for +ranchers, too," said Bear Lake County Sheriff Brent Bunn because no person or +thing's ever been caught in the act. This year, more than two dozen case have +been reported with the economic losses estimated in excess of $10,000. The +theories differ on how they occurred, but circumstances surrounding the cases +often are bizarre and similar. Officials said there apparently's no struggle +from the animal, no blood, no footprints and no tire tracks in the area. +Organs and genitals are removed with a sharp object. The animals obviously +were not killed for food. In the autumn of 1975, 90 mutilations were reported +throughout southeastern Idaho, along with more than 100 in other states. Then +only one was reported in Idaho the next year. Colorado investigators +attributed nearly all their cases to predators. But ranchers who lost the +animals scoffed at that conclusion, blaming humans instead perhaps satanic +worshippers. Bear Lake County rancher Kent Alleman, who's lost six animals to +mutilation in the last few months, is convinced occult or satanic worshippers +are responsible, using the organs in ceremonies. "People are very concerned," +said Alleman, who lives in a valley with about 20 other families. "There's no +doubt it's people...satanic worshippers or a cult." The sheriff agrees people +are to blame for the mutilations but not necessarily satanic worshippers. +He's seen no sign of occult activity during his investigations. "I don't see +any cult symbolism near the animals when we find them," Bunn said. "I've +heard of no cult meetings in the area and haven't seen altars or graffiti. I +don't subscribe to the UFO theory, either. I think it's to be animals or +people." + +12-08-89 BRUSSELS, Belgium The air force and police are investigating +numerous UFO sightings near the border with the Netherlands and West Germany, +officials said Friday. Since Nov. 29, dozens of people and police officials +in the northeastern Liege province said they've seen luminous objects in the +sky, with some of them describing a flying platform scanning the surface with +three huge searchlights, while others talk of dancing lights. During the same +period, air traffic controllers "found radar blips on the screens that could +not be immediately explained," said Defense Ministry spokesman Col. Michel +Mandel. At the time of the sightings there were no authorized low-level +flights in the region. "We are looking for a rational explanation," he said. +Although Mandel cast doubts on several witness accounts, the Belgian Society +for the Study of Space Phenomena said Friday it would send members to the +German-speaking region in Liege and across the border in the Netherlands and +West Germany this weekend. The society said it'd 150 witness accounts, in +addition to photo and videotaped material. + +12-25-89 KALAMAZOO, Mich. Scholarly UFO studies deserve a haven of their own, +says a Michigan professor who oversees a professional journal for research on +extraterrestrials. The Journal of UFO Studies, resurrected this year from a +defunct publication of the same name, aims to give researchers something +"they wouldn't be embarrassed by writing for," said its editor, Michael +Swords. "It looks exactly like a professional journal, like any other +academic field's," said the Western Michigan University professor of natural +sciences. "The target audience's academics and researchers. "It's meant to +allow the serious people to have an outlet, which doesn't really exist right +now. This was a hole in UFO publishing that'd to be filled," Swords said in +a recent interview from his campus office. Swords, who's working on the +second annual issue, believes the $15 journal's too technical for the general +public. For example, one of the first issue's three articles of about 35 +pages each discussed chemical analyses of a substance gleaned from the +Delphos Case, a supposed 1971 UFO landing site in Kansas. Another looked at +the effect of hypnosis in obtaining information from people who claim they've +been abducted by aliens. The analyses couldn't pinpoint the chemical, and the +hypnosis study by Thomas Bullard of Indiana University, a folklore +specialist, found hypnosis wasn't influencing accounts of abductions. Swords +wrote the third article, about whether other life exists in the universe. He +believes it isn't a matter of if, but of how many. "All the laws of nature +are the same everywhere and what happens once's bound to happen twice. +Chances of other high-tech extraterrestrial civilizations are equal to how +long it could exist after reaching the danger zone of technology. "Since +we're made it 45 years past nuclear weapons, I think people think there are +at least dozens if not thousands of high-tech civilizations out there," said +Swords, 49, who moved to Kalamazoo 18 years ago after earning his doctoral +degree in the history of science from Case Western University. The 174-page +journal features a book review section and a forum on different topics each +issue. All views, including those of skeptics, will be welcome, Swords said. +The second issue will take up theories about electrical fields that some +researchers blames for creating balls of light mistaken for UFOs and for +affecting psyches, may be prompting people to think they've made contact with +aliens, he said. "A lot of old-timers don't like the idea because it steals +the E.T.'s away from them," Swords said. Mark Rodeghier, scientific director +of the Chicago-based Center for UFO Studies that published about 700 copies +of the first journal issue in March, plans to run off about that many for +next year's edition. Swords said his interest in the field, which began when +he was a teen, isn't a secret, but he hasn't been teased too much by his +peers in recent years. "Sooner or later, I silence that behavior," he said. + +12-23-89 LINCOLNTON, N.C. Some people believe that President Harry Truman +made a pact with an alien nation in the early 1950s that allowed creatures +from outer space to set up shop beneath the Arizona desert. Not George +Fawcett. Fawcett, an advertising sales representative for Park Newspapers and +executive director of the N.C. Mutual UFO Network Inc., says he's seen no +evidence to convince him that such a pact or community for that matter +exists. "Now, some people believe there's a whole nation of humanoids living +underneath the Arizona desert, but I don't believe it. Never have," said the +60-year-old Lincolnton man, who's been monitoring UFO activity in North +Carolina and elsewhere for nearly 45 years. For Fawcett, such reports only +degrade what for him's been a serious pursuit that began on Dec. 18, 1944. On +that day, the young Fawcett read a news item about shiny silver balls in the +sky. It changed his life. Since then, in his spare time, the former +journalist and restauranteur's filled 35 filing cabinets with 30,000 to +40,000 reports of confirmed sightings. He's set up Mutual UFO Network +chapters in several states, most recently in North Carolina, where +approximately 200 members joined him in incorporating the group as an +official non-profit organization last month. "We want to pool our time, +talent, money and other resources to continue what we've been doing +informally for about 20 years," Fawcett said. Among their first actions was +to elect eight officers with Fawcett at the helm and to establish an +investigative arm, called the Greater Charlotte MUFON Investigative Team. The +investigative unit, with Charlotte's George Lund in charge, trains members +how to check and verify or discredit sitings. Using films, manuals and +lectures, leaders of the unit teach members what to look for in the reports, +such as descriptions of land markings, severe animal reactions, sounds +similar to a swarm of bees and odors like ammonia, sulphur or burnt +electrical wire. Fawcett said the team will likely be asked to look into more +than 100 sitings this year, although he said only 20 to 30 percent of those +will be deemed real. The rest can be written off as electrical towers, +shooting stars, meteors and so on, he said. Fawcett said the proliferation of +books and movies about aliens have opened the minds of many people to the +possibility that UFO's exist. But he's as disturbed by people who believe +without investigating as he's by people who don't believe. "There's foolish +faith as opposed to blind doubt. They're both wrong," he said. Fawcett said +that while there's enough UFOs for everybody, he doesn't believe it's +necessary to see one to have faith in their existence. He said most +investigators have not actually seen a UFO. "In that respect, my experience's +unusual, he said. I saw one years ago above Lynchburg College it was 10:15 +a.m., July 10 It looked like an orange," he said, describing the 4-minute +encounter. While Fawcett's convinced the objects and their inhabitants may +pose a threat to the nation's security and human survival, his next project, +proposed construction of a UFO museum in North Carolina, capitalizes on them. +"I think it would be a great tourist attraction. North Carolina's first in +flight, why not first in UFOs?" + +01-18-90 QUEBEC Unidentified flying objects circular or spherical in shape +seen or observed over Quebec City & off the east coast of New Brunswick're or +remain, officially or unofficially, a puzzlement. The Tuesday night +observations vary somewhat & the times're a trifle out, but the observers +stand by their stories. Officialdom shakes its collective heads. One Quebec +City observer, identified by Le Soleil only as Christian, aged 29, said he +was walking with his mother at about 10 pm when he spotted eight strange +forms in the sky. "We were just below them," he said. "It was very bizarre. +They were like rings, with four white & yellow lights inside. There was no +noise." Christian said he watched for about 15 minutes. At one point, he +said, one of the rings accelerated & moved into position ahead of the others. +It couldn't have been a hoax, he said. Certainly not like the UFO last year +in the Beauce region south of Quebec City which turned out to be a plastic +bag covering a candle. The newspaper said it first heard about the UFOs +Tuesday night from people who saw'em from the streets. Several people phoned +the police, who'd no comment. + +01-25-90 ANCHORAGE (ENGLISH BAY) Winter nights tend to be pretty uneventful +in English Bay. But Monday was nothing of the sort for a few residents there. +UFOs don't often visit the tiny village. The encounter actually started about +four miles away in Port Graham. Edward Anahonak was hauling some firewood on +his 4-wheeler to a friend's house at about 7 pm Monday when he saw an odd set +of lights hovering above Bob McMullen's house. McMullen's home's on the +western edge of the village. Anahonak, who lives in English Bay, thought it +was a helicopter, but the lights were wrong & it didn't make a sound. He said +it'd red & blue lights & "looked yellowish in the middle." It also'd a +spotlight "that lit up the trees pretty good." It was shaped like a wing, he +said, hovering over McMullen's house. Still he thought it was a helicopter. +Anahonak watched as the lights about 150 yards away moved slowly toward the +beach. "I wasn't scared," he said Wednesday in a telephone interview. "I +thought it came in for an emergency or something. I thought it was landing," +he said. "I ran down there with my Honda. When I got there, there was +nothing." Meanwhile, in English Bay, Herman & Annie Tanape were out for a +drive. English Bay's a village of about 180 people, nestled on a hillside +overlooking lower Cook Inlet. The Tenapes often take short jaunts around the +village to combat cabin fever. It was a nice evening for a drive: windy & +clear, after weeks of clouds. It was about 7:40 pm Herman & Annie were a half +mile from their home, near the beach airstrip, when Annie told Herman she saw +a strange light. Herman didn't think much of it until he turned back toward +the village. "At first, you know, I though they were stars," Herman said. +"They were real bright." He drove closer to the lights, which he said were +hovering no more than 50 feet above the ground. He said one was red, the rest +were white. As he closed on the lights, they began to move away. He said the +lights seemed to be responding to his movements. Every time he moved closer, +they moved farther away. There was no sound. When they got within about 700 +feet, Herman said, the lights turned & darted away. "It took off out to the +ocean. Like a jet," he said. "When it turned, it was just bright red." Again, +there was no sound; & that's what puzzled Herman the most. "If it was a +chopper or a plane, we would've heard it. Even if it'd a Honda engine, we +would've heard it." The object at that point appearing as a single red light +hovered at a distance over Cook Inlet. The Tanapes went to tell Vince +Kvasnikoff, the village president. Right away Kvasnikoff spotted a plane +moving toward the village. They could hear its engines. Then Herman pointed +out the red light hovering low over the inlet. "We just saw a little bit of +it," said Natalie Kvasnikoff, Vince's wife. "It was red. Flying real low. On +a windy day, the planes wouldn't fly so low. Everybody was too excited to +even think to take a picture." Soon, the light vanished. Vince Kvasnikoff +reported the incident to Roy Evans, the English Bay's public safety officer. +Evans went to the beach & scanned the horizon for about an hour. He saw +nothing, but he believes the Tanapes & the Kvasnikoffs did. "People here're +pretty honest," Evans said. "They wouldn't make this up." Bill Radtke, whose +wife Sharon was the head teacher at English Bay School for four years, said +the residents there'd "never" concoct such a story. The Radtkes live in +Soldotna now, where Sharon works as the school district's personnel director. +"They're wonderful, honest people," Bill Radtke said. "They're the most +trustworthy people I've ever worked with." Robert Gribble, who runs the UFO +Reporting Center in Seattle, Wash., said he hadn't heard anything about the +sighting. But he was anxious to get some details & phone numbers. Gribble +said he knew of no other recent sightings in the Northwest, & very few across +the nation. "It's been pretty quiet," he said. Evans said the sighting's +stirred a lot of talk & some fear in the village. "A lot of people're worried +about their kids being out." But Edward Anahonak & Herman Tanape said they +want to get another glimpse of the object. "I'm going to keep an eye out for +it," said Anahonak. "I'll be watching." + +02-22-90 BOISE, Idaho At first blush, the whole idea seems insane, a +nightmare from the supermarket tabloids. But suppose, just for a moment, that +Boise native Linda Moulton Howe's theory about the ongoing animal +mutilations's correct. Support Howe's right when she concludes in her new +book "An Alien Harvest" that after a decade spent investigating the +phenomenon she found "an accumulation of human testimony that suggested the +presence of extraterrestrial mutilators." Or, as she states for forcibly in +interviews: "There isn't any question in my mind that there's an alien life +form that intrudes on this planet for reasons I don't yet understand." She & +other UFO investigators also believe the federal government knows of these +intrusions & has aggressively covered up its knowledge for decades. Other +researchers've documented eyewitness sightings by high government officials, +including the first director of the CIA, astronauts, pilots, air traffic +controllers & thousands of ordinary citizens. Documents obtained through the +Freedom of Information Act've revealed even more sightings (including one in +1987 near Emmett) & investigations the government's previously denied +conducting. "It's the best-kept secret in the world," Howe says. If she's +right, she acknowledges, the impact on this planet'd be incalculable. "But," +she adds, "for people to deny it won't make it go away." What won't go +away're the thousands of mutilations that've occurred worldwide since 1967, +including a recent rash in southeastern Idaho. Bear Lake County was hit by 15 +cattle mutilations in a recent two-month period, says Sheriff Brent Bunn. +Mutilations first hit the headlines in the mid-1970s. There were 90 cases in +Idaho, & one newspaper alone ran 50 stories on the subject between June & +December 1975. The pattern's disturbingly similar, no matter where it occurs. +Somehow, the blood's drained completely, & there're never any footprints or +tire tracks near the carcass. The animal usually's an ear missing, one eye's +carved out in a perfect circle, flesh's stripped from one side of the jaw, +the tongue's taken from deep in the throat cavity & long strips of stomach're +removed, as're the sex organs. To duplicate the cuts with current laser +technology, Howe discovered, would require equipment weighing 500 pounds & +take up to two hours. In the 1970s, public investigations, including one by +then-Attorney General Wayne Kidwell, were launched & rewards were offered in +several states. Satanic cults & UFOs were on the list of suspect, but the +conclusions reached by investigators in Idaho & Colorado was death by natural +causes & mutilation by predators. An ex-FBI agent named Kenneth Rommel was +hired by the federal government & in 1980 wrote a 300-page report. He +concluded that, without exception, the deaths & wounds were of natural +origin. Howe angrily dismisses Rommel's report as an "obvious paid-for +whitewash that didn't even deal with the real cases." "I don't know of a +predator that'd (cut up an animal that way) with so much soft tissue +available," Sheriff Bunn said. "It doesn't make sense to me. But then it +doesn't make much sense that people'd do this & leave all the meat." Lou +Girodo, now sheriff of Las Animas County in Trinidad, Colo., has investigated +100 mutilations over the past 13 years. He says, "I grew up on a farm, & I +know what a predator does. They grab, tear & gnaw." Girodo says he's seen +coyotes circle a mutilated cow repeatedly, but they wouldn't come in for a +free meal. "I've never seen coyotes act like that," he says. "Like everyone +else, I'm trying to come up with an answer." That was the debate Howe found +when she began to investigate the story in 1979. "I was a journalist & film +maker (for KMGH-TV in Denver) who was provoked by the mystery of these +bloodless animals," she said from her Atlanta office. "I knew I was getting +into something that was unexplained, but thought I could get into it & come +up with the definitive answer. It was like walking into quicksand." The +turning point came six months into the investigation when she filmed a woman +named Judy Doraty, who was put under hypnosis to help her recall an incident +that occurred in Texas in 1973. Obviously terrified, Doraty relates on film +how she was abducted by the aliens & witnessed a mutilation. "That really got +me," Howe says. "I said, `My God! It must be true,'" "A Strange Harvest" won +Howe an Emmy in 1980, but she continued to collect material on the +mutilations & other UFO phenomena. Eventually, she combined old & new +information into "An Alien Harvest," which she published privately last year. +It cost hear $45,000 to print 1,250 books, but she chose that route so she +could control the content. "It was the biggest gamble of my life," she says. +"I guess it's a testimony of how much I care about how the material'd be +presented." The material she gathered came from scores of interviews with +eyewitnesses & government officials who told her amazing stories, despite +their fear of ridicule & retribution. "I've seen grown men cry," she says. +"I've talked to men who were agonized over it. They've sworn secrecy oaths +saying they'll go to jail without a trial if they talk. And I believe these +people." In 1983, Howe was invited to Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque, +NM, by an Air Force investigator. Inside a secure room, she was shown butn't +allowed to duplicate a document titled "Briefing Paper for the President of +the United States of America." The paper, she says, detailed UFO sightings +that go back tens of thousands of years & claimed manipulation of DNA on +earth's primates. Recent encounters began in the 1940s, she says, & the paper +listed dates of UFO crashes & details of live & dead aliens recovered by the +government. Other interviews & documents, detailed in the book, support what +she read. Howe says she lives two lives: one as a maker of documentary films, +the other as a clearinghouse for mutilation & other UFO information that +fills five drawers & two boxes in her home. She admits it all sounds +fantastic beyond belief, & she realizes her information poses many times more +questions than it answers. "All the hard questions you'd like answers to, I'd +like answers to, too," she says. "I don't have definite answers, & I don't +know anyone outside the government who does, & they're just sitting on it." +But she insists, "There can't be all this evidence & have it add up to zero. +Everybody'd like it to be like the movie `E.T.' But the reality seems to be +quite different." + +04-04-90 DECATUR, Ill. It sounds like headlines from a supermarket tabloid. +Some said it was cigar-shaped, 15 to 30 feet long & a few even reported +having conversations with the crew. It was April 1897 & hundreds of +Illinoisans claimed they saw what they thought was a mystery airship. And, +it's still a mystery today. "Officer Moos threatened to take the visitors to +the lockup if it persisted in causing the concentration of mobs in the +streets," reported the Lincoln Courier. Robert Neeley Jr., an X-ray +technician at St. Mary's Hospital in Decatur who's studied UFO sightings for +20 years as a hobby, has dozens of files documenting 2,400 sightings in 1897 +that were reported in about 40 states. Newspapers in Chicago & Bloomington +reported a flying object on April 11. A day later, a Rushville physician +reported a light that shot upward, moved rapidly, & changed directions as he +watched. Most of the 1897 sightings occurred between 7:30 & 9 pm April 9-16, +& they were evenly distributed throughout the state, Neeley's research shows. +The former Peoria Transcript said in its April 15, 1897, edition, that its +reporters'd launched a balloon to show how people's reactions'd differ. Most +stated its speed was 100 miles per hour, & some described it as "a hideous +monster with a fiery furnace" 2,000 feet in the air, according to that old +newspaper. Neeley says he's skeptical, & doesn't speculate about +extra-terrestrials or visitors from other dimensions or time travelers from +Earth's future. "Regardless of such fanciful theories, most of the 1897 +reports describe an airship that seems aeronautically impossible," he says. + +04-09-90 DETROIT, MI Abductions by aliens usuallyn't little green men with +antennae, but gray or white men about 3 feet tall've traumatized dozens of +people in Michigan. But they aren't suffering alone, according to a Flushing +woman, who'd an experience with little gray extraterrestrials herself & found +they cured her of lupus & Addison's disease, a serious adrenal gland +dysfunction. Shirley Coyne says her abduction occurred on a hot summer night +in 1983, when she saw the bright light of a domed UFO moving over a corn +field near her home. She said she awoke her husband, George, & they ran +outside barefoot to look at it. The last thing they remembered was the feel +of grass on their feet. Then they were back in bed, said Mrs. Coyne, adding +that her memories were revived through hypnosis sessions. "It was very +traumatic but you get over it," said Coyne, reached Sunday at a three-day +Ozark UFO conference in Eureka Springs, Ark. Coyne & her husband helped +organize a support group for alien abductees, which she said has'd a +100-percent success rate in helping people over their trauma. "In Michigan +we've 60 people we're working with who've already gone through different +stages of hypnosis & probably 20 to 30 waiting to be regressed (hypnotized)," +Coyne said. "We've a certified hypnotist & a clinical psychologist." Coyne +said the support group's like any other, helping helps people learn to deal +with & accept the experience. She said at least one person who'd an abduction +experience with aliens was in an institution before meeting with the group +but now's living a normal life. "There're many who've gone through who aren't +able to hold down jobs. They barely function," she said. "There're others +who're able to cope with it very well." She estimated there were similar +support groups in at least 23 other states. Ed Mazur, Arkansas director of +Mutual UFO Network, said Coyne's story isn't unusual. Mazur said he's working +with about four abduction cases in Arkansas. Michael Swords, a professor of +natural sciences at Western Michigan University & editor of the Journal of +UFO Studies, said he believes support groups're helpful as long as they're +"essentially healthy. From what I'm hearing, it sounds as if support groups, +as long as they don't markedly demand certain behavior, are good for people," +Swords said. "There might be some professional who disagree." Swords said, +however, that some researchers believe reports of alien abduction may be a +"shield fantasy" for some people, developed as part of a neurosis. Swords +said those researchers think the cause of the neurosis may be stress, a +desire to be "involved" or even a bad experience in childhood. Swords, who +earned a doctoral degree in the history of science from Case Western Reserve +University, said there seem to be a lot of abductions of people reported, but +it's not nearly as high as the number of reported UFO sightings. He also said +it's always hard to investigate the reports. "It may be as real as tomorrow's +breakfast" to the victim, Swords said, "but as long as there's no conclusive +evidence sitting there you still've to say, `I'm empathetic with you, I'd +like to believe you, but the evidence's justn't there.'" + +04-07-90 EUREKA SPRINGS, Ark. Lauren Rose says as a teen-ager she was forced +by aliens to strip naked & undergo painful examinations. Until recently, she +didn't know who or what to blame. "I've strongly suspected our cat," Ms. Rose +said at the annual Ozark UFO Conference on Friday. "I know that's crazy, but +you don't know my cat." Some 200 self-described UFOlogists from around the +world'll attend the three-day conference that began Friday. Mayor Richard +Schoeninger proclaimed that the first alien brought to him'd be named an +honorary citizen of the resort town & given a free trolley pass. But don't +make too many ET jokes around here. These folks're serious about their +aliens. Ms. Rose, 41, of northern Virginia, said she's undergone therapy +since she was 18 to fend off fits of anxiety & depression. It wasn't until +three years ago that Ms. Rose linked the problems to abductions by aliens, +she said. "It's a very serious issue that can & does affect our mental health +& belief systems," she said. Ms. Rose said she grew up feeling like she was +being watched & followed. In her late teens, she remembers feeling compelled +to walk into the forest near her home in Colorado. But she couldn't remember +what happened in the woods until undergoing hypnosis recently, Ms. Rose said. +"Imagine someone coming out of the trees making you take your clothes off & +forcing you through a series of painful examinations," she told the group. "I +don't remember those times, but my body did. That's why I was filled with +adrenalin afterwards. I realized in that abduction that I was nothing more +than a guinea pig. They stripped the clothes off me, did the job they'd to do +& just dropped me," she said. Shirley Coyne belongs to a Michigan support +group for abductees. Ms. Coyne said she & her husband were abducted in the +summer of 1983 by a UFO that landed in a corn field. After undergoing +hypnosis, Mrs. Coyne said she could remember little gray men cured her of +lupus & Addison's disease in the large domed spacecraft. Her husband can't +remember the abduction, she said. Ed Mazure, state director of Mutual UFO +Network, said the experiences of Ms. Rose & Mrs. Coyne aren't unusual. + +04-09-90 PENSACOLA, Fla. A group that investigates reports of unidentified +flying objects Monday announced plans to hold its annual meeting in this +Florida Panhandle city because of numerous UFO sightings in the area. +Fifty-five formal reports've been filed with the Mutual UFO Network from the +Pensacola area since the first sighting in suburban Gulf Breeze more than two +years ago, said Charles D. Flannigan, state director of MUFON & a Pensacola +real estate agent. About 600 visitors from across the nation're expected for +the symposium July 6-8 on the topic "UFOs: The Impact of E.T. (extra +terrestrial) Contact Upon Society." Among the speakers'll be Ed Walters, a +Gulf Breeze builder who triggered the spate of sightings by photographing a +saucer-shaped object in the sky Nov. 11, 1987, & Bud Hopkins, a New York City +author who's written two books, "Missing Time" & "Intruders," on reports of +people being abducted by aliens. Walters also's written a book, "The Gulf +Breeze Sightings," about several sightings he & others've made in this area. + +04-09-90 EUREKA SPRINGS, Ark. Organizers of a UFO conference held in Arkansas +say they're not so sure about a lecturer's theory that the Stealth bomber +evolved from alien technology. Bob Oechsler, a robots experts who said he +once was a NASA missions specialist, said that the B-2 Stealth craft's +primary propulsion system was removed from a recovered flying saucer. "The +project utilizes an alien power plant inside & it's disguised by the use of +four GE-F118 engines with a modification called the GE-100," Oechsler told +about 300 people who attended the three-day Ozark UFO Conference, which ended +Sunday. Oechsler was one of several featured speakers during the three-day +conference. His topic was "Alien Technology in Use Today." "There's new +technology today that's been gleaned from recovered craft of non-human +intelligence origin. The government's confirmed, high intelligence officers +I should say, that these craft were recovered," he said. A government +physicist's worked on the power source at a secret laboratory in Nevada, he +said. Oechsler was unavailable comment Monday & didn't return a message left +on the telephone answering machine at his home in Edgewater, Md. Lucius +Farish of Plumerville, Ark., an organizer of the conference, said he +understood that Oechsler'd worked for the Goddard Space Flight Center in +Green Belt, Md. Farish said he'd no scientific background but'd been studying +the subject of UFOs for 30 years. He said he wasn't committed to Oechsler's +theory about the Stealth technology. "I don't know. I don't doubt that +there're crashed & retrieved UFOs, & the idea that technology in general +could've developed from that's not unbelievable, at all," Farish said. Farish +& Ed Mazur of Mena organized the conference. "We put the first one on three +years ago & decided then to've it as an annual conference," said Mazur, a +former aerospace engineer Martin-Marietta Corp. People who attend the +conferences're "from all over the country & some from abroad," he said. "As +a rule, they're researchers into the topic. There're a few who're just +interested in learning as much as they can about the subject." Mazur, who +worked as an electronics engineer on various Martin-Marietta missile systems, +questioned Oechsler's remarks about the Stealth technology coming from +aliens. "Those're his remarks. Not everyone agrees with that," Mazur said. +Pressed on whether he was among the believers, he said, "No, not really." + +04-11-90 WINNIPEG, Manitoba Unexplained flashing lights & strange circles in +the ground're spotted in Quebec, a saucer zooms over houses in Newfoundland +& a diamond-shaped object zips through the Manitoba sky. Throughout the +country, people said they saw at least 141 unidentified flying objects last +year, according to what's being touted as Canada's first national survey of +UFO sightings. "It tells us that UFOs haven't gone away, it tells us that +UFOs're being seen right across Canada," said Chris Rutkowski, a Winnipeg +researcher who compiled the study. Rutkowski put together the survey from +reports submitted to private investigators, police & the Ottawa-based +National Research Council, which supplied two-thirds of the material for the +study. Such information was always available but never marshalled into a form +that painted a picture of UFO sightings across the country, he said. More +than half the reports didn't have enough information to evaluate properly & +one third'd probable explanations, said Rutkowski, who's a degree in +astronomy & is president of the Winnipeg branch of the Royal Astronomical +Society of Canada. Of the rest, seven sightings were stamped as solidly +unknown, meaning they were seen by several people & investigated by the +police & National Research Council, without any explanation being found, he +said. He related three such incidents. Startled residents of the rural Quebec +community of Ste-Marie-de-Monnoir saw flashing lights glide over a field & +out of sight. The next morning, they found strange circles swirled into the +ground. At Wesleyville, Newfoundland, eight or nine people noticed a classic +saucer-shaped object swoop low over rooftops & along the shoreline. And near +Beaver Creek, Manitoba, people reported seeing a diamond shape with red +lights zip over their car & out across Lake Winnipeg. Rutkowski stresses that +he wants to take a rational, scientific approach to the reports & won't offer +any theories about unexplained sightings. But he hopes publicity from the +survey'll spark more people to come forward with their observations, +providing a larger body of evidence that could be investigated by scientists. + +04-30-90 CORYDON, Ind. Residents of this former state capital nestled in +Indiana's southern hills've taken to star-gazing following continued reports +of UFOs. School teachers, nurses, counselors, students, a sheriff's deputy & +a high school principal're among those who claim to've seen the UFOs near +Corydon, which was Indiana's first capital city. Janet Reising, a Corydon +resident for almost 20 years, said she began to see the lights in the sky +almost three years ago, but some area residents claim the mysterious +objects've been around for 20 years or more. One of the witnesses told the +Corydon Democrat, "We aren't a bunch of kooks. We're respectable, +well-educated, professional & responsible people." Some of the sightings're +very similar, but others differ widely. Reising claims to've seen several +objects of varying colors, shapes & sizes, one so small she swears she +could've reached out & grabbed it, & another "as large as a football field." +One of the more frequent sightings involves a round, amber-colored object. +Reising & several of her neighbors saw such an object about two years ago. A +small white light came out of it & hovered "three feet off the corn" in a +field near the spectators, she said. Reising said she went to her car & +blinked her headlights one & off three times. The white light blinked three +times in return & disappeared. "This was a perfectly clear night," she said. +Reising also says she's seen a hovering cigar-shaped object over a sycamore +tree in her front yard & a rectangular-shaped object flying low in the sky +near New Middletown. Reising says two other women were with her when the +second object appeared. As they watched, the object separated into three +triangles that flew off, one behind the other. "It looked like a billboard in +New York City with different colored lights going up & down on it," she said. +Reising, an unofficial recorder of sightings in the area, has a list of more +than 300 people who claim to've seen the UFOs. Most of the sightings occur at +night, usually around 11:30 pm, but some've been reported during daylight +hours. Several people claim to've been followed by the lights. One girl said +a light followed her home from work one night & hovered above her house. +Another teen-ager said blue, white & orange lights hovered above him one +night in 1987 while he was driving a tractor up & down a field, Reising said. +Investigators from Mutual UFO Network once videotaped a brilliant orange +light flying in the sky in August 1987. The investigators were unable to +explain what the light was. They did, however, conclude that it wasn't an +airplane or a helicopter. Reising expects interest to grow in UFO-watching +this summer. As tales of the sightings travel throughout the state, they draw +curious visitors to the Harrison County town, she said. Reising said people +from as far as Bloomington & Indianapolis've made the trip in the hopes of +being the next person to sight a UFO. "Everybody brings their lawn chair & +sits down on the side of the road," she said. + +04-29-90 GULF BREEZE, Fla. An ex-convict who gained some fame with photos of +what he claimed were UFOs is being haunted by earlier pictures he took of +"ghosts" to entertain his children & their friends. National attention +focused on this Pensacola suburb & the skies overhead after a weekly +newspaper, The Gulf Breeze Sentinel, in November 1987 published pictures of +purported unidentified flying objects taken by a then-anonymous resident. Ed +Walters's since acknowledged he's the photographer. Walters's a Gulf Breeze +building contractor who served 18 months in prison for forgery in Duval +County & auto theft in Alachua County during the late 1960s, but he was +pardoned less than two months ago. Walters's written a book, "The Gulf Breeze +Sightings," & reportedly's been offered $450,000 for rights to do a +television mini-series. Several UFO investigators've challenged the +authenticity of the photos, showing a saucer-shaped object with rows of +square windows in the sky. Critics now contend they're double exposures. +Their conclusions're based in part on Walter's spooky party games described +by three Gulf Breeze women who'd been friends of his two children as +teen-agers. The women spoke to the Pensacola News Journal on condition that +the newspapern't reveal their names in a story published Sunday. "This's very +incriminating evidence," said Willy Smith of Altamonte Springs, Calif. "Ed +predicted what was going to happen & he made a ghost-demon appear." A +20-year-old woman said she posed for a ghost photo taken by Walters after a +mock seance in 1986. It showes a ghost-like image with two eyes & a large +mouth that appears to be reaching out for a 16-year-old Pensacola girl. "I +thought it was a big joke," the woman said. "He intended for the picture to +show up. Then I heard someone'd taken (UFO) pictures. I immediately just knew +it was him & I didn't believe it." Walters took the ghost photo, obtained & +copyrighted by Smith, with the same Polaroid camera used for the UFO +pictures. "I think this finishes him," Smith said. "I admire Ed. If I were to +fake pictures I'd use a Polaroid. There's no negative." In March, Walter +Klass, a former senior editor of Aviation Week & Space Technology Magazine, +criticized Walters' UFO photos at a meeting of the Committee for the +Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal in Washington. He argued +it's easy to make double exposures with the type of camera Walters used & +that many of his UFO photos appear to be fakes. Zan Overall of Redondo, +Calif., a member of the Center For UFO Studies, said he's publishing a paper +that also will challenge the authenticity of the photos. It will be titled +"The Ghost-Demon Photo: Ed Walters' Nemesis?" & presented at the annual +meeting of the Mutual UFO Network. The July meeting will be held in Pensacola +because of interest generated by the Gulf Breeze sightings. Walters contends +that he didn't know how to take double exposures when he photographed the +purported UFOs & that the ghost photo's the result of reflections from a +glass door behind the teen-ager. He said he's taken several similar photos at +the same spot in his home. Smith, however, said the ghost photo, recently +published in the Orlando Sentinel's Florida Magazine, is different from +recreated pictures. The ghost photo's blurry on its edges & shows up on one +plane while the images in the reflected photos're clear & on two planes +because they reflect on each side of the thick glass door. Walters, however, +still's his defenders, including photographic expert Bruce Maccabee of Silver +Springs, Md., who said he could find no evidence of double exposure in his +UFO pictures. Walters also cites a 98-second videotape of the alleged UFO, +photos taken with other cameras & hundreds of other Gulf Breeze area +residents who've said they too've seen UFOs since the pictures were +published. Such criticism's nothing new, Walters said. In his book, he wrote, +"They've tried to label me a con man, liar, occult master, etc. But my +community knows me & rejected these charges." Critics say claims of contact +with UFOs traditionally accompany hoaxes & point out that literature +advertising a May 11-13 UFO conference in Miami Beach states Walters will +attempt to draw a UFO to him during a "skywatch." However, conference +organizer Jim Moseley said Walters's never claimed to be able to draw an +object to him & that the skywatch's a promotional opportunity to coincide +with a book-signing session with Walters. Walters said he won't take part in +the skywatch. Walters also's drawn suspicion to himself by reporting four +more sightings this year, perfect timing, critics say, for stimulating sales +of his book at the UFO convention in July. Walters said it hurts him that +critics're trying to turn his ghost photos & involvement with community teens +into something bizarre. "It was something beautiful," he said. "They don't +want people to think of Ed Walters as a responsible person, but as a +ghost-deamon, Satan-worshiper holding seances." + +05-07-90 PEORIA, Ill. A local woman's composing music that's out of this +world from simple little melodies to grand keyboard compositions inspired by +what she described Monday as her contacts with aliens. Connie Cook, 42, said +she's been visited by "small, yellow-skinned" aliens in her bathroom, bedroom +& seen formations of alien spaceships in the skies over Peoria many times +since 1981. "I hesitated to ever speak out about this because I feared +criticism & ridicule," Ms. Cook said. "But after so many experiences, I +decided to speak out." Ms. Cook said her life changed in November 1981 when +she watched an unidentified flying object hover over Interstate 74 in Peoria. +Two city police officers reported seeing the strange white light, which +lasted 90 minutes before disappearing. Immediately after the experience, Ms. +Cook said she began hearing music inside her head & started writing it down, +despite no prior experience composing songs. In April 1987, the sightings +became more personal as a "small, yellow-skinned" alien appeared in her +bathroom. "It identified itself as the one who's been communicating with me," +Ms. Cook said. "It'd silver eyes & had radiant beauty. I've no prior frame of +reference to describe it." Those experiences, along with numerous sightings +of silver globes hovering & flying in formation in the sky, inspired Ms. Cook +to compose. A local music critic, Jerry Klein of the Peoria Journal Star, +described her compositions as "sometimes ethereal, haunting & eclectic." +Overall, he said of her work: "most of it's very pleasant & listenable." +Probably the people most surprised by Ms. Cook's sudden musical ability're +her parents, LaVern & Genevieve Cook of Canton. "We're just a normal, +middle-class, middle-income family," said Genevieve Cook, 69. "We were +skeptical about this at first. "But we've seen such a dramatic change in her +personality & ability. Something's happened to the girl to give her the +ability to play & compose music all of a sudden. And she isn't the type to +make this up." Experts support the sightings of UFOs. They insist people like +Ms. Cook aren't insane. Philip J. Klass, an author of four books on UFOs, +defends the sightings. "Ninety-eight% of the people're telling the truth, +they aren't nuts or crackpots," Klass said. "The other 2% are mentally +disturbed." Robert Baker, a psychology professor at the University of +Kentucky, said many people with no sign of pschological problems often report +UFO contacts. "They aren't really crazy or psychotic," Baker said. "They lead +normal lives. They just've certain fixed ideas." Baker said about 45% of the +American population's "fantasy prone" & may be more receptive to delusions of +UFOs. He said some people're able to create an identity for themselves by +sighting an alien spaceship. Ms. Cook said she's not hallucinating. She +admits, however, that some of her inter-dimensional experiences may've been +dreams. With no photographic proof to support her sightings, Ms. Cook can +only point to her music as evidence of an extra-terrestrial influence in her +life. "They work through me because I'm a writer & I'm not afraid to talk +about it," she said. "If this's a delusion, then everyone should've one. It's +had such a wonderful impact on my life." + +05-11-90 INDIANAPOLIS Bruce & Becky Merida can't explain what left a 25-foot +circle of mashed grass in their field northeast of Bloomington. The only +witnesses were their 12 pigs, & they aren't talking. On Wednesday, Merida & +his uncle, Junior Merida, came across the dead & yellowish grass about 200 +feet from the pig pen. "I don't know if I believe in UFOs or not, but I'd +like to know what it is. It was just like on TV, a bunch of perfect circles," +Bruce Merida said. The grass wasn't burned, Merida's wife Becky Merida said. +There were three depressions in the middle as if something landed on a +tripod, she said. The mysterious shape, made of smaller & smaller rings, is +off Miller Road about two miles east of Dolan Road. The Meridas, who live in +Bloomington, rent about 110 acres there, growing hay in the summer & keeping +pigs all year round. A power line 50 feet from the rings led Becky Merida to +speculate that if there were such things as visitors from outer space, they +might've used the electricity to recharge a ship. "We just'd our electrical +transformer stolen two weeks ago," she said. The Meridas said they've not +called police or health officials to examine the site. + +05-11-90 HAILEY, Idaho The Blaine County sheriff's office's received a rash +of reports of strange objects & lights in the sky west of Hailey in recent +weeks, but an amateur UFO tracker thinks he can explain'em away. Most of the +sightings May 2 & May 4 were reported in the same part of the sky where +strange lights were first seen by residents on the night of April 19. Mike +Fidler of Burley's a member of the Mutual UFO Network, a private organization +of volunteers who track unidentified flying object reports. He said looking +into the April report led him to believe the sightings since then may've been +due to news reports drawing attention to the night sky. Fidler said many of +the descriptions sound as if people were looking at Sirius, the brightest +start in the sky. The sheriff's office received five calls May 2 about a +bright red & blue light in the sky southwest of Hailey. Fidler said Sirius's +been visible to the southwest recently, & it sometimes twinkles different +colors when it appears near the horizon. On the night in May 4, the sheriff's +office received two more reports of lights over the mountains west of Hailey. +One caller reported seeing three lights simultaneously, & the other said he +saw two lights at the same time. Barry Parker, an astronomy professor at +Idaho State University, said he'd received a couple of reports from people in +the Pocatello area about similar lights. But he said he'd been able to see +nothing himself, & could offer no explanations for the Hailey phenomenon. +Sgt. Steve Child at Mountain Home Air Force Base said the Air Force's not +investigated any of the reports. The Idaho Air National Guard controls the +flight path west of Hailey, Child said, & had no flights scheduled in that +area April 19. + +05-12-90 MIAMI BEACH, Fla. Whether orn't UFOs exist, their fans do, & they'd +a close encounter with each other at a convention here Saturday. The annual +National UFO Conference which began with a beach-side saucer watch Friday +night under an almost full moon's drawn about 200 believers & ufologists, +organizers said. The conference features speakers ranging from reporters who +document other people's sightings to contactees who claim contact with +intergalactic travelers, including one Spanish-speaking alien. "Our purpose's +to inform, enlighten & hopefully entertain people with the different aspects +of UFOs...It's up to the audience to choose who to believe," said conference +sponsor James Moseley, looking like a professor in his horn-rimmed glasses & +gray suit, a "UFO research" button pinned to his lapel. One of the workshops +teaches "how to identify & locate your counterparts, soulmates & friends from +other worlds...find out what constellation you might've arrived on Earth +from, & what your special mission might be." West Palm Beach radio host +Carole Lynn Grant was to speak about psychic healing, an art she says aliens +taught her through mental contact. "My link-up with space beings's on a mind +level. I've not been on a spaceship physically, but I've been mentally," said +Ms. Grant, who says the aliens give her information about world events before +they occur. Once, Ms. Grant says, she was "hooked up to a spaceship solidly +for three years. It was like a garden hose running from my head to the +spaceship." The star of the weekend's Ed Walters, who first reported a flurry +of sightings in the small Gulf Coast town of Gulf Breeze. Walters, a +convention new release boasts, "has apparently been able to draw UFOs to him +almost on command." On Friday morning, however, Walters wasn't magnetic, he +was miffed. He was unhappy about a newspaper report quoting a non-believer. +This "debunker," Walters said, claimed Walters'd boasted he was levitated, +asked to disrobe & examined by aliens. Not true, Walters retorted. This's +what really happened: He saw a spacecraft, moved closer & "was struck by a +blue beam." Later, he also lost one hour & 15 minutes of time & sighted +4-foot-tall beings in silver space suits. "If someone wants to conclude I was +on a spacecraft, that's their prerogative," Walters said. The five conference +workshops'll be held through Sunday. + +05-18-90 ANNAPOLIS, MD Lewin Maddox didn't know what to expect when a +neighbor led him into an old barn in Pasadena during the winter of 1944. What +he saw looked like a helicopter with a wheel instead of a blade to keep it +aloft. He was intrigued but didn't think much of it. Three years later, +however, in the midst of national hysteria over an invasion of unidentified +flying objects, Maddox learned that the curious object'd been seized by the +Air Force. "The Air Force apparently thought that it might be a prototype to +a flying saucer," the Glen Burnie resident recalled. "It was seized & taken +to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds. But a week later, they decided it couldn't +possibly've flown." Government officials located the man who'd apparently +constructed the odd machine, effectively ending the debate & the county's day +in the UFO glow. Now, four decades later, local UFO enthusiasts say they've +sighted hundreds of unidentified flying objects in the Chesapeake Bay region. +At a recent Maryland State Conference on UFOs held at the Maryland Hall for +the Creative Arts, more than 60 believers gathered to share their views & +experiences on the curious phenomena. "We're very serious people studying +UFOs as a scientific element," said Bob Oechsler, of Edgewater, president of +the local chapter of the international Mutual UFO Network. "We've had +numerous sightings in the last two years. It's not a question of believing, +it's a matter of looking at the factual evidence." The evidence for Oechsler +& his followers's concrete hundreds of photographs showing strange glowing +objects of all shapes & sizes, videotapes of flying machines, & dozens of +accounts from residents who allegedly've been "abducted" by aliens. "We've +had medical examinations performed on people who've been abducted," Oechsler +said. "Many people claim that UFOs are just a bunch of lights at night. But +the credible evidence's there." Two years ago, a rash of UFO sightings over +the Chesapeake Bay led to the establishment of the local chapter of MUFON, +headed by Oechsler & Debbie Regimenti of Annapolis. Both say they've seen +numerous UFOs. The group now claims a dozen members & meets every month to +discuss the latest sightings in the region. "The Chesapeake Bay's a hot area +for sightings," Regimenti said. "We try to document the sightings & look for +reasons that (aliens) are here." The first to admit that many sightings of +unidentified lights can be explained by ordinary means, Regimenti also said +that the evidence pointing to the existence of UFOs can no longer be denied. +"The government's completely stopped claiming that UFOs aren't real," +Regimenti said. "Once they remove the stigma & allow'em to be acceptable, +then we're on the right road." Several months ago, Regimenti & Oechsler +completed a report documenting their sightings & accounts from dozens of +other county residents. Entitled the "Chesapeake Connection," the report'll +be presented at the annual MUFON symposium to be held in Florida this summer. +"It's such a complex issue," Regimenti said. "We don't know who they are, but +we're looking for clues. All I can say is, don't laugh at your next door +neighbor when he says he saw something strange. Keep an open mind." + +07-02-90 GULF BREEZE, Fla. A UFO-investigating group's been split by +controversy over whether photographs of unidentified flying objects +supposedly swooping over this Florida Panhandle city're for real. The Mutual +UFO Network, scheduled to begin its annual three-day symposium Friday in +neighboring Pensacola, officially remains "100 percent" in support of the +belief the photos're authentic, says Walt Adrus, international director of +the 2,600-member group. However, many members've expressed doubts about the +photos taken by Ed Walters, a Gulf Breeze builder & ex-convict, & some've +quit the organization because of its support of Walters. "Too bad they aren't +having the symposium two days earlier (July 4), because there're going to be +fireworks," said Ray Stanford, director of Project Starlight International, +an organization based in College Park, Md., that makes advanced photography +equipment available for UFO sightings. About 600 people're expected to attend +the MUFON symposium at the Pensacola Hilton. The organization decided to hold +the conference near here because of widespread attention the Gulf Breeze +sightings've received. Several other Gulf Breeze area residents reported +spying objects similar to those in Walters' photos since the pictures were +printed in The Gulf Breeze Sentinel, a weekly newspaper, about three years +ago. National television & newspaper reports followed. The recent discovery, +in the attic of a house formerly occupied by Walters, of a model flying +saucer similar to those in his photos's given new ammunition to those who +claim it's all a hoax. Walters, who's written a book, "The Gulf Breeze +Sightings," about his encounters with UFOs, insists the pictures're authentic +&'s speculated the model was planted by debunkers. The model, fasioned from +foam plastic dinner plates & blueprint paper, will generate talk, but +Stanford said he doubted it'd change MUFON's endorsement of Walters. "Some +people believe it, not as the result of science, but almost as a religion," +he said. "They'd still believe in the Gulf Breeze photos if Ed confessed +(they were a hoax). They'd believe he was forced to confess." Walters' +credibility also's been attacked by Tommy Smith, 22, a former Gulf Breeze +resident, who said he & Walters took double exposures of a UFO model. Walters +also's denied Smith's story. Physicist Willy Smith, a co-founder of UNICAT, +an international UFO information-gathering group, claims he's +digitally-enhanced Walters' photos to show a support under the alleged flying +saucer. Another scientist, however, remains convinced the photos're +authentic. Bruce Maccabee, an optical physicist & MUFON's Maryland state +director, said what Smith sees as as a support's merely a defect caused by +the roller on Walters' Polaroid camera. Maccabee agreed that questions about +the authenticity of Walters' photos'll be a hot topic at the symposium. +"There're a lot of reputations on the line, a lot of money on the line," he +said. "A number of MUFON members're skeptical." A one-time MUFON +investigator, Bob Boyd of Mobile, Ala., was so skeptical that he quit the +organization in 1988 because of its support of Walters. The model & other new +evidence've prompted MUFON to reopen its investigation, but Boyd said he +doesn't think the organization'll seriously study the matter. "They just want +to save face," Boyd said. "I've absolutely no confidence in a MUFON +investigation. All of these people've lost their credibility." + +07-07-90 PENSACOLA, Fla. "Glasnost" is having a cosmic as well as terrestrial +impact in the Soviet Union where UFO sightings no longer're passed off as +capitalist propaganda, says an international science writer. Along with the +new openness's come a rash of reports of landings, close encounters & +sightings of unidentified flying objects, says Antonio Huneeus, a +Chilean-American journalist who's written extensively about UFOs. Huneeus's +scheduled Sunday to address the 21st annual symposium of the Mutual UFO +Network on UFOs in the "Red skies" of the USSR. Some of the Soviet UFO +encounters've been reported in the US media, but Huneeus said at a news +conference Friday that little attention's been paid in this country to what +he considers to be a particularly significant sighting by the Soviet +military. "That case was admitted by none other than the chief of Soviet air +defense forces, Gen. Igor Maltsev," Huneeus said. "He published a +statement...in a Soviet newspaper to the effect that UFOs had been detected +by several radar units." Maltsev also reported that jet fighters were +scrambled & the pilots described a disc from 100 to 200 meters in diameter +flying at speeds two to three times faster than their aircraft, Huneeus said. +The general concluded the UFO'd somehow "come to terms with gravity" & that +it "didn't seem to appear to be a terrestrial machine," Huneeus said. Most of +the attention at the symposium's focused on Ed Walters, a resident of nearby +Gulf Breeze, who's made numerous photographs of purported UFOs. Some UFO +investigators contend the pictures're a hoax but MUFON officials, who +scheduled the symposium here because of interest in UFO sightings by Walters +& others in the Gulf Breeze-Pensacola area, contend the photos're authentic. +Their authenticity, however, has been called into question by the recent +discovery of a model flying saucer found in the attic of his former home & +statements by a former Gulf Breeze resident who claimed he saw Walters take +fake UFO photos. Walters, holding up one of his pictures, pointed out that +the UFO shown flying just above a road wasn't identical, although similar in +shape, to the model. He also distributed a nine-page response, including the +results of a psychological stress evaluator test that concluded he was +telling the truth when he said he didn't make the UFO model. About 600 of +MUFON's 2,600 members're attending the conference at the Pensacola Hilton & +Pensacola Civic Center. One of the more controversial presentations was to be +made today by John L. Spencer, a UFO investigator from England, on +differences between the perceptions of UFOs in the United States & Europe. +Americans tend to attribute UFOs to visitors from outer space while that +explanation isn't necessarily accepted elsewhere, causing rifts among US UFO +enthusiasts & their counterparts overseas, Spencer said. He said there's more +emphasis in other countries on what UFOs mean rather than what they are, +citing the experience of a Swedish woman who considered her sighting a signal +to be more concerned about the environment. + +07-12-90 BRUSSELS, Belgium This country's air force's joined scores of +Belgians befuddled by hundreds of UFO sightings across night skies in recent +months. In the latest report, two air force F-16 jet fighters used their +radar screens to track an object that, according to a military official, +"exceeded the limits of conventional aviation." Speaking at a news conference +Wednesday, Belgian Air Force Col. Wilfried de Brouwer said the UFO dived from +about 10,000 to 4,000 feet in two seconds. At the same time, it increased its +speed from 600 to 1,100 miles an hour. De Brouwer said the air force decided +to wait before announcing the sighting in the early hours of March 31 +"because we wanted to compare the radar sightings by our pilots with +observations from radar stations. UFOs are a sensitive issue. That's why we +don't want to approach this sighting emotionally." Since last fall, hundreds +of nighttime sightings of UFO've been reported over southern Belgium. Many've +been explained. In one case, the UFO turned out to be a vertical laser beam +used by a discotheque to attract clients. However, de Brouwer'd no +explanation for the sighting by the F-16s, which approached within about 12 +miles of the UFO. He said police & civilians reported four UFO sightings at +the same time. The official said those reports "speak of a triangular object +with a bright red center light." + +07-30-90 ELMWOOD, Wis. Rather than the fear & alarm flying saucers might +instill in most people, residents of this community decided UFOs were cause +for a festival. The village of 1,009 residents in west-central Wisconsin +marked the beginning of the 12th annual UFO Days festival this weekend. The +reason for the celebration's the town's reputation for dozens of UFO +sightings. "Every town around here seems to've its strawberry festival or its +cucumber festival or its potato festival, so we decided to've a UFO festival +because we've had a lot of sightings," said Caroline Schoeder, a festival +organizer. Elmwood first gained national attention 15 years ago when +respected policeman George Wheeler said he was attacked by a blue light from +a large flaming ball hovering over his squad car. More recently, Chippewa +Falls businessman Tom Weber attempted raising $50 million to construct what +he called the UFO Site Center, a landing pad in Elmwood that was to beam +welcoming lights into outer space. The plan was abandoned for lack of funds. +The sightings & the festival's reputation attracted 2,000 visitors who came +to see the parades, street dances & carnival rides. Events included a chase +of 500 paper plates dropped out of an airplane. Children who captured one +could trade it in for cash prizes. The community also crowned a UFO Day's +Queen. Elmwood's economy gets a boost from the festival thanks to the sale of +souvenir inflatable rocket ships, T-shirts, caps, mugs, ashtrays, badges, +bumper stickers & cosmic headdresses. But some visitors expected a more sober +atmosphere. Rusty Paar, 23, a spectator from La Crosse, came carrying a photo +copied document that he said outlined the federal government's cover-up of +UFO landings. "This whole event just looks like a bunch of people looking for +an excuse to party," Paar said. + +08-07-90 FARGO, N.D. "Mystery circles" raising questions about an alien +presence in southern England've appeared in North Dakota. John Salter, +director for MUFON, a national UFO research group, has investigated three +sites in the state in the past 16 months one 50 miles west of Grand Forks, +another near Turtle Lake & a third at an undisclosed site in southwestern +North Dakota. Based on photographs & tests, two of the sites're "bonafide, +tangible, UFO landing sites." Farmer Allen Wagner found circles in a hay +field in May, 1989, near Turtle Lake. The largest's about 100 feet wide. "We +don't want people to think that we just believe this was a UFO phenomenon," +said Sharon Wagner. "We'd like'em just to keep an open mind." Scientists +around the world've debated how the circles formed, & have come up with a +variety of answers ranging from wind & magnetic forces to alien landings & +hoaxes. + +08-17-90 The serene, rolling pastures of the McCarthy farm in northeastern +Mississippi look like the last place in the world to hide a secret. Within +four months, a calf & a heifer were found savagely butchered on the 150-acre +dairy complex. No one knows who or what slaughtered them, & the McCarthys're +afraid the culprit might come back. "He goes out there with a light & a gun +now," said Bare McCarthy, referring to her husband, Taylor. "If he catches +whoever's doing it, he just might kill'em." Although Taylor McCarthy refused +to let veterinarian William McMillan perform necropsies on the carcasses, +McMillan said he got a good enough look to sense that something wasn't right. +"They were strange kinds of deaths. There're things in both cases that really +don't add up." On April 8, a 200-pound calf was killed within yards of +McCarthy's house. The cornea of one eyeball'd been cut out with surgical +precision, as well as half the tongue, McMillan said. But what was more +unusual was that there was no blood anywhere near the body. A 500-pound +heifer was later found in early July, with the left ear & 18 inches of skin +from its left rib cage cleanly severed. Where the hide'd been, a hole was +bored through to the beast's heart, which hadn't been removed. The +veterinarian doesn't think predators were responsible for the mutilations. +Teeth'd have left jagged, not fine, cuts. McMillan does concede it could've +been the work of cults, however. Authorities in Lee County, where the +McCarthy farm's located, as well as in other parts of Mississippi, are +familiar with occult groups. Sheriff's Dept. investigator Dan Crum said Lee +County'd a problem with satanic followers roaming the countryside in 1988. +James Crocker'd prefer officials to just come right out & admit they've no +idea what happened. "There're different types of animal mutilations. One's +the cult variety. But there's another, where the incisions're entirely +different. There's never any tracks, no vehicles, no symbols, no identifiable +characteristics that could link it to any particular person or organization." +In the 1970s, a wave of unexplained livestock mutilations swept Colorado & +the Midwest. Most were marked by skillful removal of parts & organs. In 1975, +after 130 mutilation cases were reported in Colorado alone, then-US Sen. +Floyd K. Haskell, D-Colo., asked the FBI to investigate. The two incidents on +the McCarthy farm reminded Crocker of what'd plagued Colorado. He's begun +buttonholing sheriff's deputies, farmers & veterinarians throughout the +state, hoping to collect information on any other mutilations that haven't +been reported. Crocker's found out that two other similar, unexplained +mutilations've taken place in the McComb-Brookhaven area within the last six +to eight months. "This thing's a senseless slaughter of animals. I believe +it's coming to a point where a comprehensive effort's needed to compile data +on a national basis & get something done." State veterinarian Frank Rogers +said the McCarthy mutilations aren't the only cases he knows about in +Mississippi. "Previous to now, I guess six to eight years ago, we'd something +similar reported in southwestern Mississippi, around Simpson & Copiah +counties. The farmers got together & began cruising the roads & the problems +stopped." In "An Alien Harvest," a book based on interviews & alleged +classified government documents, Linda Moulton Howe advanced a novel theory +to explain the bizarre mutilations. She suggested that UFOs might be beaming +up cattle, dissecting'em & then placing the remains back on earth. "The +pattern suggests that at least one non-human intelligence's manipulating & +harvesting earth life, that the alien life forms're controlling & using human +ignorance to accomplish the harvest." Other theories that saw print during +the heyday of the mutilations in the 1970s ranged from top-secret military +units experimenting with lasers to oil prospectors hoping to use animal +viscera to determine if valuable minerals lay beneath the grass the cattle +ate. Crocker's the first to admit he doesn't have any answers. "I mean, you +pick your theory. I don't have an explanation anymore than the hundreds of +thousands of law enforcement officials who've looked into this. There's a +million theories." + +08-21-90 LAS VEGAS A Las Vegas man, Robert Lazar, who says he's witnessed UFO +research by the government in the Nevada desert, has been given probation on +a pandering charge. Lazar was a key figure in an award-winning television +documentary series "UFO's: The Best Evidence." The series by reporter George +Knapp aired on KLAS-TV in Las Vegas. Lazar claimed the US government was +researching alien spacecraft at secret sites in the desert north of Las +Vegas. + +09-04-90 TURTLE LAKE, N.D. Mysterious circles in a farmer's hay field've led +to record enrollment in a University of North Dakota class on UFOs. +Registration for the class called "UFOs, ETs & Close Encounters" was closed +with 148 students, the most ever to register for a coursen't required at UND, +Professor John Salter said. "Obviously, it shows a broad recognition that +UFOs're real." The Turtle Lake circles in Allen & Sharon Wagner's hay +field're among a dozen or more in four sites that've appeared in North Dakota +over the past two years. No one's come up with a logical explanation for the +dead grass, loosened sod & straight-sided depressions that range from 3 +inches to 24 inches deep at the perimeter. Some've suggested the dead grass's +the result of insects, hay stacks, badgers or chemical spill, but none of +those theories accounts for the size & type of depressions at the site. +Salter, the chairman of the UND department of Indian studies, became +interested in UFOs after he saw one in Wisconsin in 1988. Though he hasn't +visited the Wagner field he's convinced the circles're a "clean & clear +example of a UFO landing site." Similar mysterious circles've been found in +grain fields in England & Manitoba. Salter's UFO class'll meet once a week +for two hours, & students'll receive three credit hours for passing the +course. Salter plans to talk about his own experiences, as well as use films +& encourage discussions. But that isn't much consolation for the Wagners, who +still're looking for an explanation for the circles even after hundreds of +people've looked at the site. "We're back where we started from. We really +don't know anything." + +09-13-90 A huge Hindu meditation symbol's been mysteriously plowed into a +remote dry lake bed in the southeastern Oregon desert. The symbol, known as +a sriyantra, measures about a quarter-mile across & is oriented to true +north. It's precisely laid out in the Alvord Desert along a training run +often used by Air Guard pilots, said Capt. Michael Gollaher. "Nobody's really +saying this's a UFO type thing. The word out at this time's that this's some +type of manmade object. "Most of the speculation's this's probably some sort +of cult thing. Nobody can figure out why somebody'd go to such effort to do +this out in god-awful nowhere." The pictograph was first reported Aug. 10 by +Lt. Col. Bill Miller, who returned Aug. 24 & photographed it from his RF-4C +Phantom jet. It's unlikely the design was built before the middle of July +because pilots would've spotted it. "The people in the photo interpretation +facility process the film & they say, `What's this, a hoax?' And we say, `No, +it isn't.'" No one recognized it immediately, but one of the photo +interpreters took a copy of the photograph home, where his wife, Alicia +Gloeckle, identified it in her series of Time-Life books on the occult. The +design's a square with T-shaped appendages on all four sides. Inside're three +concentric circles. Inside those're two concentric circles of lotus leaves. +Inside those're nine graduated triangles, four pointing one way & five +pointing the opposite, all overlapping. At the very center's another circle. +"It's a focusing device in meditation. This particular one symbolizes the +continuing of generations. It's a fertility type of thing, the continuation +of the species & the Earth." Sgt. Charlie Swindell drove out to the site on +US Bureau of Land Management range land. "It's beautifully done. I'd love to +meet the person that did this." Swindell measured the sriyantra to be 1,563 +feet square. "The circle in the center's 9' 3", with a one-inch deviation, +which I consider to be a pretty doggone good circle." The design's made of +plowed furrows measuring six inches across & four inches deep. Swindell found +a number of surveying stakes at corners driven deep in the ground, with nails +& pink plastic ribbons on them. "Some of the architects around here said it'd +take $75,000 to $100,000 to survey it & lay it out." Swindell theorized that +someone used a garden tractor or rototiller to plow the furrows. Such a +machine could've folded over the earth to cover the tire tracks. There was +one motorcycle track through the design, apparently left by someone who never +noticed what he was riding through. "Unless you knew what you were looking +for, you wouldn't necessarily pay attention. But from the air it's very +visible." None of the ranchers he talked to in the area knew anything about +the design. "Somebody'd to be out there in 120 degrees for a couple of weeks +doing this. Because of the sparse population, you certainly could get away +with it." + +09-14-90 LEOLA, S.D. Those odd marks that swirl through John Reis' wheat +field'll be gone soon before they can be checked out by UFO experts. Reis +said that two months ago, he noticed the pattern, which looks like a +backwards question mark. He went public with the news last month, looking for +answers, but all he got were a few phone calls from the curious. Reis's to +disk the field soon, & the marks'll be gone. "I've got other fields to do +first, but if it rains, I'll go in there & take it out. I don't want to, but +some of those weeds could get mighty tall by next spring." The marks +attracted the attention of a group known as the Mutual UFO Network. One of +the two active members of the group in South Dakota, Davina Ryszka of Custer, +said she wished she'd known about the incident sooner. "This's the first +we've heard of in South Dakota." The description of the patterns sounds +similar to some in England & that unusual circles've been found in North +Dakota fields. + +09-18-90 ODESSA, Mo. When Lynda Lowe saw the circle of flattened grain in her +sorghum field, she was flabbergasted. But she eventually decided it was +probably just a trick of the wind. Others who've seen the circle in the field +near this west-central Missouri town think it could be something more +mysterious. UFO enthusiasts've been gathering near the field the last few +days, tromping the grain & getting in Mrs. Lowe's hair. "It doesn't look the +same. People've really messed it up & it's twice as big now. One of those +guys down there...thought maybe the spaceship'd landed again. There's been +some weird people out here." Mrs. Lowe & her husband, Roger, who own 140 +acres about three miles from Odessa, first saw the strange configuration four +days ago. It was 20 to 30 feet wide. "We live on a hill & the field's down by +the road. I could see it from the house Friday, & I jumped in the car & drove +down there." The couple, although confused by the ring, didn't tell many +people about it. "I don't believe in UFOs for one thing. But it was strange. +It looked like a perfect circle somebody cut in the field. It was all just +lying flat & smooth." Then over the weekend, a woman photographer driving +through the area saw the field, took some pictures & began telling people +about it. The woman apparently'd seen pictures of mysterious circles in +fields in England. "She begged Rogern't to cut it. He should've cut it right +then." Tim Meyers, an investigator for the Lafayette County Sheriff's Dept., +went to see the circle after his department heard reports of it. But it +appears to just be vandalism. "It looked more like kids trying to knock down +grain with a four-wheeler than a spaceship to me." "I've farmed here all my +life & I've never seen anything like it," said Terry Henning, who lives two +miles from the Lowes. "In England, they've seen a lot of lights in +association with the circles," said Thomas Nicholl, a Leawood resident & +member of the Mutual UFO Network. "In the absence of other information +(here), it's hard to tell what happened. It makes no sense." Erich Aggen Jr. +of the Mutual UFO Network & Monty Skelton of the Inter-Continental +Association of Research Enterprises took samples of the crops to send to +laboratories. "It's perplexing," Skelton said. "Had a heavy craft landed +there, some stalks'd have been broken & the grain crushed. It doesn't hold +water, as far as some type of craft landing, but it wasn't wind, either." + +09-21-90 BATES CITY, Mo. Roger & Lynda Lowe, whose farm attracted national +attention this week after two mysterious circles appeared in their sorghum +field, aren't alone. Area residents're reporting similar circles in three +other fields two in Kansas & one in Missouri. They gave the oddities little +thought until they heard about the Lowes' field. "It's us wondering, `What on +earth?'" said Ruth McCahon of Raytown. She & her husband, John, were at their +farm south of Osceola last Friday when they saw a circle 30 to 40 feet wide +in their sorghum field. Three circles also've appeared in a pasture southwest +of Oskaloosa, Kan., & one in a field west of Topeka. But don't assume the +circles're proof of UFOs. The Lowes believe the wind's to blame, & scientists +& others agree there're more earthly explanations than UFOs. "Crop circles're +a phenomenon that've been going on in England since the early 1980s," said +Barry Karr, spokesman for Skeptical Inquirer, the official journal of the +Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal. The +organization's dedicated to debunking UFO & ghost sightings. "After 24 years +of investigating famous UFO cases, I've never found one that can't be +explained in earthly terms," said Philip Klass, a founding member of the +committee, who lives in Washington. "I'm quite certain that we've no alien +visitors in our skies. Whatever's generating these circles, it isn't an alien +spaceship." Some circles found elsewhere've proven to be the doings of +mischievous farmers or neighbors who'd rather propagate stories than irrigate +crops, Karr said. The Missouri circles're the first Karr's heard about in the +Midwest. Other circles've been found in Florida & Canada, he said. Barring a +hoax, there may a scientific explanation: the air itself. Meteorologists +speculate the crop circles may be caused by any of several atmospheric +disturbances. The two most likely candidates're microbursts, or spinning +winds that sometimes're called dust devils. Both're caused by temperature +differences in the upper & lower atmospheres that cause swirling winds or +powerful downdrafts. The swirling winds're "a common way for the atmosphere +to transfer momentum within a short space," said Glen Marotz, a meteorologist +& professor of civil engineering at the University of Kansas. "When the +atmosphere's faced with an energy imbalance, it acts like you'd expect it +would. It tries to get rid of them. One way's to create a spinning vortex. +There's nothing uncommon about that." Microbursts're sudden & powerful +downdrafts that easily could compress crops. "Microbursts've been implicated +in aircraft crashes when hard downdrafts're created." All the circles're near +roads & trees. Witnesses say none of the trees lost limbs, as they probably'd +have in a wind storm. Farmers say no crop disease could've caused the damage. +No tire tracks or footprints've been found in the circles. And in each case, +people who live near the circles say they neither heard nor saw anything +unusual. At the Lowes' place, the circles ruined about $1,000 worth of +sorghum. But the puzzling phenomenon turned the farm field into a tourist +attraction. Wednesday night, up to 43 cars were parked at one time along the +road. Lowe harvested the crop & obliterated the circles Thursday. The New +York Times's called twice & relatives of his from California, Boston & New +York phoned after seeing the circles on television. "I didn't ask for the +notoriety, & I'd rather've had (the sorghum) in the silo & forgot about it. +But it happened, & there's nothing I can do about it." + +09-27-90 TOLEDO, Ohio When Harold Bricker left the marina at East Harbor +State Park, he thought he was taking a routine fishing trip with his family. +It became bizarre when Bricker encountered what he says was a sea serpent on +Lake Erie. The Bricker family saw a large creature moving in the water about +1,000 feet away from their boat. They described it as black, about 35 feet +long, with a snakelike head. It moved as fast as their boat. "I told my son +that I wanted to get a look at it," Bricker said. "My son said, `No way, that +thing's bigger than we are.' So we stayed where we were." They watched the +serpent disappear beneath the surface about two miles north of the Cedar +Point Amusement Park near Sandusky. When Bricker returned, he told park +rangers about the sighting. His story was backed up by his family, including +his wife Cora, 68, & son, Robert 35. Since the Bricker family saw the +creature Sept. 4, sea serpent mania's spread among lake front communities in +Ohio. The monster's been reported by five people on three separate occasions, +including a Huron firefighter & a 50-year-old grandmother from Pennsylvania +who was vacationing at her Lake Erie cottage. John Schaffner, editor of the +Beacon, a weekly newspaper in Port Clinton, has a toll-free phone for people +to call if they see the serpent. And in Huron, Thomas Solberg, owner of Huron +Lagoon Marina, has offered a $5,000 reward to anyone who captures the +creature alive. He's posted a sign at his marina calling it the future home +of the Lake Erie sea serpent. While the public's fun with Ohio's version of +the Loch Ness monster a creature that's haunted the Scottish lake for +centuries the sightings baffle local researchers. Charles Herdendof, a marine +biologist investigating the creature, said it's possible that there's +something unexplainable in Lake Erie. He frequently encounters inexplicable +things in his research. During an expedition in the Atlantic Ocean, a robot +camera videotaped a 20-foot long green shark that he said was 1,000 miles +south of where any like it'd ever been seen. Fred Snyder, a researcher with +the Ohio Sea Grant, an organization that examines Great Lakes issues, said +it's highly unlikely that a monster's living in Lake Erie. "I'm not trying to +be the sour old guy who throws a bucket of water on things. I love UFOs & the +Loch Ness monster I'm still just hoping that all of those're going to be +real. But something about the one in Lake Erie, I don't see where it could +come from." The reports're similar to about six made in 1985 & 1987, all of +huge snakelike creatures being seen in Lake Erie. The US Coast Guard'd no +other reports of a mysterious creature this year before the Bricker family +sighting. After the reports began this year, Schaffner's newspaper ran a +contest to name it. The name South Bay Besse was chosen in part because of +the location of the Davis Besse Nuclear Power plant near Port Clinton. "If we +look at things like the stories about the Loch Ness monster, which I don't +necessarily discount, Loch Ness'd connections to the ocean, it's +prehistoric," Snyder said. "When you look at Lake Erie, a lot of people kind +of assume, like most places in the world, it must be millions & millions of +years old. It's not the case. The glaciers receded & the area stabilized +about 12,000 years ago which, geologically, is just yesterday...So the +monster really can't be anything left over from the dinosaur days because +it's just too young." Snyder doubts a creature could've gotten in from the +Atlantic Ocean because of the difficulties of navigating the St. Lawrence +Seaway. "A big question's why hasn't the monster been noticed before, why's +this just now popping up. Let's go back to Loch Ness monster. That seemed to +be reported for hundreds of years periodically. There've been legends, like +Bigfoot. Even the Indians were talking about Bigfoot being there. Well, Lake +Erie Larry or South Bay Besse seems to've popped up around 1985, & if it'd +been in here for hundreds & thousands of years, there sure seems like there'd +be local legends among the Indians, among the settlers," Snyder said. "I +truthfully don't know what people've been seeing, but it's hard for me to +believe that there could be a monster out there." The sturgeon's Lake Erie's +largest fish reaching up to 300 pounds & 10 feet in length. But the +sturgeon's on the endangered species list &'re bottom dwellers. He speculated +that monster sighters may've seen a school of fish & mistakenly thought it +was a creature. + +09-27-90 WICHITA, Kan. State troopers & motorists sighted a shimmering light +in the Kansas sky this morning. The National Weather Service said it was a +research balloon, not a UFO. Shortly before dawn, people from Marion to South +Haven in central Kansas began telephoning news departments at radio stations +with sighting reports. The object appeared to be stationary. Marissa Gray, a +Wichita woman who works the overnight shift at Winfield State Hospital, said +the object was clearly visible when she left Winfield for Wichita about 6:45 +am. "It was so bright then I thought it was a chopper." A National Weather +Service spokesman said the light was the rising sun reflecting off a huge +National Scientific Balloon Facility research balloon launched from Fort +Sumner, NM earlier this week. The balloon's 450 feet in diameter & was filled +with 29 million cubic feet of gas. It originally rose to an altitude of +110,000 to 130,000 feet, the spokesman said. Its altitude & size made it +appear closer than it was as it began descending. + +09-26-90 MIAMI, FL A former air traffic controller's positive he's unraveled +the secret of Flight 19, five Navy torpedo bombers that vanished in 1945 & +fed the Bermuda Triangle legend, but getting proof's going to be expensive. +Jon Myhre's solution was videotaped for a segment on NBC-TV's "Unsolved +Mysteries." But doubters include the Navy, Smithsonian Institution, six +publishers who rejected his book manuscript & People magazine, which held +Myhre's story after buying exclusive rights to his account. "I've given it my +best shot. I've done everything I can do," said Myhre, of Lantana, who's +spent his life savings of more than $100,000 to plot & pursue Flight 19's +five Grumman TBM Avenger torpedo bombers. "I know I'm right. I'm justn't in +a position to prove it." Myhre's videotape, shot from a mini-submarine in +July, of an upside-down Avenger sitting in 390 feet of water about 35 miles +off Cape Canaveral, but doesn't have its serial number. The plane, just 2 +miles from where Myhre predicted Flight 19 went down, was originally spotted +during the search for debris from the explosion of the space shuttle +Challenger, but ignored then. Flight 19's disappearance became part of the +legend of the Bermuda Triangle, an area where ships & planes supposedly +disappear under mysterious circumstances involving UFOs, magnetic fields & +other such phenomena. Flight 19 even figured in "Close Encounters of the +Third Kind," in which first the planes & then the men were returned by +aliens. Myhre's answer to the puzzle came with a flash eight years ago when +he read the final radio transmissions from the warplanes, which took off from +Fort Lauderdale for a training flight over parts of the Bahamas on Dec. 5, +1945. The squadron leader's reported that both of his compasses were out of +order. At one point, the squadron leader plotted a northeasterly course based +on the assumption he'd somehow reached the Florida Keys, on the opposite side +of Florida. Myhre thinks that was part of the Bahamas' Abacos chain. At +another point he reported he was over an island & no other land was visible. +Myhre, who's flown the region for years, believes that was isolated Walker's +Cay. By re-plotting the flight from Walker's Cay, using the Navy +transcriptions of the flight's radio reports, Myhre came up with a location +where he thought Flight 19, its planes out of fuel, may've ended. The spot +was east of Cape Canaveral. The Avenger he filmed was found 2 miles away. +Myhre learned of the plane spotted during the Challenger search from news +reports. This summer, with $25,000 raised by two partners, he hired a small +research submarine & located the wreckage. He was unable to locate a complete +aircraft serial number on the upside down wreck. Footage of the Avenger shows +the last three digits 209 of a five-digit Navy service number on the left +wingtip. Flight 19's lead airplane number was 73209, & Navy records show only +two other Grumman TBM Avengers with service numbers ending in 209, & neither +was lost at sea. "The only thing we didn't get was a positive ID on the +plane's serial number," Myhre said, but raising the Avenger could cost +$250,000. The plane's landing gear's extended, leading some to suggest that +plane was lost while trying to land on an aircraft carrier instead of the +squadron's suspected ditch. But Myhre insists he's the right plane & knows +where the others are. "The other planes're further north in much deeper +water, I'm certain. This was just the first to ditch. And the tragic thing +about it's he was only about seven minutes from land. If they'd just kept +going west..." + +10-08-90 ELMWOOD, Wis. A recently published book billed as an expose of the +government's clandestine search for extraterrestrial life in Elmwood's +renewed interest in this west central Wisconsin town. Mayor Lary Feiler, 48, +has gone from a small town administrator to a sought-after guest on talk +shows dealing with UFO sightings. He attributes the recent fame to "Out +There: The Government's Secret Quest for Extra-Terrestrials," written by +former New York Times reporter Howard Blum. The book mentions the town of +1,009 about 45 miles west of Eau Claire throughout the text, commenting on +residents' reports of numerous UFO sightings in the surrounding hills over +the past 15 years. The stories've become the focus of an annual community +festival called "UFO Days." In the last two weeks, Feiler's been interviewed +by telephone on two radio stations in New Zealand & one in Australia & +featured on the TV programs Hard Copy & The Oprah Winfrey Show. Although the +book's accurate, it exaggerates some details. The harrowing description of +Carol Forster's encounter with a UFO was "played up as much more dramatic +than she ever reported it." The efforts of Tom Weber to build a +multimillion-dollar landing site for UFOs near Elmwood're described in the +book. Weber spent two years trying to build an extraterrestrial welcome +center on a high plain above the village. Now, living near Mauston, where +he's recovering from a heart attack, he doubts the book'll result in +significant donations to his "UFO Site Center." "It might generate funds for +Howard Blum, but it's not going to result in anything meaningful." Blum +disagreed. "When I wrote `Wanted,' the government said nothing could be done +about Nazi war criminals. But since its publication, many've been deported." +For Blum, who was in Milwaukee last week as part of a 12-city promotion tour, +"Out There" is an effort to force the federal government to reveal the extent +of its spending on UFO research & its "malicious & illegal attempt to +discredit UFO believers. I hope that the government'll tell all & that we'll +find out how much money's being spent on the search for extraterrestrial +life. After all, it's our tax money." Blum already's sold the television +rights to his book. + +10-13-90 NORTH HAVEN, Conn. The stories'll be flying this weekend about alien +creatures with three-digit hands & windowless, disc-shaped spacecraft. And no +one'll be laughing. More than a dozen UFO researchers & people who claim +to've been abducted by aliens're meeting in North Haven for the fourth annual +international conference on "The UFO Experience." Robert Luca & Betty +Andreasson Luca of Connecticut'll be there. Betty, 53, who doesn't want her +address known, says she was a 7-year-old Massachusetts resident when aliens +first visited her in 1944. Luca, whose encounters've been described in +several books, says she was abducted three times by gray-skinned, hairless +creatures, 3 feet to 4 feet tall with three-digit hands & holes for ears & +nostrils. "It's not only me. There're hundreds of thousands of cases already +documented worldwide. There're many who haven't reported it because they +can't deal with the bizarreness of it." Ed Walters of Gulf Breeze, Fla., will +also be there. He'd tell the conference about the day he came home from a +construction job in 1987 & saw a round, glowing object hovering near his +driveway. It was the first of his reported experiences with UFOs. UFO +researchers attending the conference issued an appeal to President Bush to +"take the wraps off the governmental cover-up of the UFO situation." "We want +Bush to put an end to the secrecy over research by the intelligence & +military community into UFOs & to tell the American public & the rest of the +world the truth about what they've found," said John White, whose business, +Omega Communications, is putting on the conference. A copy of the appeal was +mailed to the White House. White, who describes himself as a researcher of +paranormal phenomena, said the conference at the Holiday Inn's a chance for +people (at a full weekend cost of $150, unless they pre-registered for $120) +to meet the leading figures in the field of UFO research. White saw a UFO in +1987 in Pine Bush, NY. He described his encounter as a nighttime sighting of +an unusual light. "I didn't see a metallic craft without windows. As a +seasoned investigator in these phenomena, I was unable to explain it by any +natural cause." Ninety% of UFO reports come from well-intentioned people +whose sightings can be explained as natural phenomena or known technology, +according to Robert Bletchman, a Manchester attorney & public relations +director the Mutual UFO Network. The network estimates 2.5 million Americans +have'd valid UFO sightings, including 25,000 Connecticut residents. It's +possible some sightings may be explained by secret military projects, such as +development of the Stealth bomber, long kept under wraps. But: "I'm convinced +some UFO sightings represent human contact with an extraterrestrial +presence." "For someone to tell me (there's no such thing as a UFO) after +never having looked at all the evidence, then that's just an ignorant +opinion." Kenneth Feder, an anthropology professor at Central Connecticut +State University who's studied UFO literature, said many believers're people +who take comfort from the idea there're more intelligent beings somewhere in +the universe. "I'm not saying these folks're replacing their religions with +UFOs, but there's an undercurrent in most UFO literature that we've screwed +up the planet badly & these guys're out there watching & will come down & +take charge when we're about to destroy ourselves." + +10-19-90 MILAN, Ill. Droves of camera-toting tourists're flocking to Kathy +Bost's corn field to take a look at a giant circle that's causing some to +wonder if flying saucers've been visiting western Illinois. Bost isn't sure +a flying saucer landed on her farm. But she says no one's offered a better +explanation for the perfect circle, 46 feet in diameter, sitting smack-dab in +the middle of acres of corn. Her brother-in-law, James Lawson, was harvesting +corn from Bost's rural Rock Island County farm when he saw a site that nearly +knocked him off his combine. The stalks'd been bent over & flattened in a +sweeping, clockwise pattern. A small circle of brown dirt peeked through the +center. "That's the strangest thing, I tell you. It's like something landed +there, in a sense." Lawson told police that he spotted no footprints, vehicle +tracks or cut marks that'd indicate a hoax. "We checked it out, & we don't +have any explanation at this time," said Rock Island County Sheriff Mike +Grchan. "If it's kids or pranksters, it'd be awfully hard to swish the corn +down that flat & even." With police stumped, geologists from nearby Augustana +College were brought in to determine the source of the smashed circle. "The +best they could come up with's a wind phenomenon." Though Bost isn't +convinced she now owns a UFO landing pad, she doesn't discount the +possibility. And the doubts haven't discouraged the carloads of +curiosity-seekers, who stream toward the mysterious clearing & turn Bost's +desolate corn field into a scene out of "Field of Dreams." "I've got a small +farm, but I've never'd anything like this," said a perplexed Virgil +McCormick, 59, of nearby Reynolds. "I hope it's (caused by) the wind." "I'd +like to've been here when it happened," said Gene Nielsen, who drove 60 miles +from his Annawan farm. "There's lots of other things people don't know about, +& I thought, `By golly, it beats going to England.'" Nielsen was referring to +300 crop circles similar to the one in Milan that've appeared in England & +continental Europe during the past year. Scientists've spent millions of +dollars trying to determine the origin of the circles, but so far've failed. +Similar circles also've been discovered in Canada, Japan & the United States, +including six in North Dakota in less than two years. "Most of us're quite +convinced that many of these circles're bona fide UFO landings or're related +to UFOs," said John Salter, sociologist at the University of North Dakota & +director of that state's chapter of the Mutual UFO Network. Because the Milan +circle lacks scorch marks, it's doubtful a UFO landed there. But it could be +a "calling card" left by aliens using some sort of energy beam. "There isn't +any reason to be afraid," Salter said. "These're formed by visitations +designed to sensitize us that is, us humans to the existence of +extraterrestrial life." + +11-05-90 CHARLOTTE, NC More than 150 people attended the annual meeting of +the Mutual UFO Network where they heard a hypothesis that the government's +agreements with creatures from outer space. "One must consider these +possibilities, all possibilities when studying UFOs, but still maintain a +healthy dose of skepticism," said ufologist Ginger Richardson at the meeting +at Charlotte's Pfeiffer College. "As ufologists, we must wade through the +garbage to get to the kernel of truth...We know something's definitely going +on." Ms. Richarodson said according to the hypothesis, the government gets +advanced technological knowledge in exchange for harmless medical experiments +on humans. But according to the hypothesis, the aliens've violated the pact +by implanting trackers in human brains, murdering humans for food & +impregnating women to create hybrid offspring. MUFON's an international +organization founded in 1969 to investigate the UFO phenomenon. Topics at the +meeting ranged from evil aliens abducting humans to creating an atmosphere +for bilateral exchange. Steven Greer of Asheville says all aliens aren't +evil. A real chance exists for bilateral communication. It's called the CE5 +Initiative, "CE" meaning close encounter. But humans must extinguish +destructive behaviors, like war, before alien contact can begin. "The +extraterrestrial civilizations're out there & are indeed wanting us to get to +the place where they feel more comfortable having an exchange," said Greer, +director of the Center for the Study of Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence in +Asheville. "But they're cautious of their own security as well." + +11-11-90 BILOXI, Miss. Space aliens're just make-believe, Eddie Hickson's +father told him. Years later, the elder Hickson said those same space +aliens'd snatched him from the banks of the Pascagoula River in Jackson +County & took him on board their dome-shaped craft. Charles Hickson Sr., a +modest Gautier man & a retired shipfitter foreman at Ingalls Shipyard, told +a crowd of about 200 conventioneers at the Great Gulf Coast UFO Gathering in +Biloxi about the day that changed his life. Hickson, now 59, & fellow +shipfitter Calvin Parker were fishing at an abandoned shipyard Oct. 11, 1973. +"All of the sudden I heard some kind of hissing sound like steam leaking out +of a pipe," Hickson said. "I saw some kind of craft hovering about 18 inches +about the ground. I didn't know what to do. It appeared round with a dome on +top & there were two blue pulsing lights on what appeared to be its front. A +door opened & a very brilliant light came out, then three things came out & +two of'em took ahold of me & one took Calvin. When the one took hold of my +left arm, it hurt, & then I didn't feel anything but my eyes. They were about +5-foot, 6-inches tall & they'd elephantlike skin, grey & very wrinkled. The +skin ran horizontal. Their arms were very long in proportion to the rest of +their bodies." His book, UFO Contact in Pascagoula, may soon be made into a +movie. Once the beings released him inside the craft, Hickson became +suspended in midair & watched an electronic eye come out of the craft's wall, +scan his body, then retract into the wall. After hypnosis unlocked his +subconscious, Hickson recalled the faces of three male human-looking beings, +who observed the examination from behind a window. "I kept wondering what +they were going to do to me. They glanced at my eyes; then they carried me +back & out through the brilliant light & put me down on the ground. Calvin +was lying there on the river bank, his arms outstretched, & he seemed to be +going into shock. I'd to slap him & scream at him to get his attention," said +Hickson, a Jones County native & Army veteran of the Korean War. Parker now +lives in south Louisiana & has suffered two nervous breakdowns since the +incident. Fearing they'd be labeled insane, Hickson & Parker considered +keeping their experience a secret, but reported it to the Jackson County +Sheriff's Dept. that night. Since that eerie evening, the aliens've +communicated with Hickson telepathically. Rubbing a flat, gray, quarter-sized +object, Hickson explained that the disc heats up before he receives +telepathic messages. Hickson's undergone numerous psychological evaluations. +"I know these things sound very strange & I don't expect you to believe them, +but I hope one day you will." Eddie Hickson, 36, has never thought his father +was insane. He's watched him turn down handsome cash offers for his story +over the years, fearing people'd think it a hoax. "I know in my heart & my +mind that daddy didn't make this up." + +11-15-90 BEND, Ore. The elaborate Hindu meditation symbol carved in a +southeastern Oregon desert last summer probably was made by UFOs & not a band +of Iowa artists, a science professor claims. James Deardorff, a research +professor emeritus at Oregon State University, alleged the government +concocted a "cover story" with Iowa artist Bill Witherspoon & five others to +explain the quarter-mile-wide symbol. "Their story doesn't make any sense. I +wonder if the government took'em out & told'em what to say, where they camped +& how they did it." Deardorff retired four years ago from teaching in the +university's Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences. He now looks into the "UFO +phenomenon" full time. Witherspoon said in a telephone interview there's +nothing mysterious about the huge shri yantra symbol he & others dug in a dry +lake bed north of the Alvord Desert. "No, it wasn't aliens. It was just some +guys." Mark Armstrong, spokesman for the US BLM, also denied that the +government tried to hide the truth about the Hindu symbol. "There's no +connection between any so-called UFO activities & this drawing that +Witherspoon & those with him did. We're fully satisfied that we got to the +truth of the matter." Witherspoon & five companions laid out the intricate +design using an old garden cultivator, 12 miles of twine, survey stakes, a +tape measure, a pair of binoculars & a blueprint. The design was discovered +by an Idaho Air National Guard pilot during a training flight Aug. 10. The +discovery wasn't revealed publicly until mid-September, however. Witherspoon +later came forward to claim the work. The BLM fined him & his group $100 for +defacing public land. Deardorff said he wasn't convinced after studying a +videotape of the symbol & studying Witherspoon's account. "My concern in +this's that some group in some branch of our government's behind this in +doing their best to keep the citizenry from connecting the ground pattern to +the patterns in the wheat in southeast England, for example, because of the +reported UFO association with the latter." He was referring to unexplained +large circles & other geometric shapes that appeared in England last spring +& summer. Deardorff was suspicious about a number of elements in +Witherspoon's story, including the fact that the drawing supposedly was +discovered just a day after it was completed but wasn't reported until about +40 days later. "Why that big delay? The time was there for'em to build up a +cover story." He also didn't believe that the artists could've drawn such a +perfect symbol, with its neat, uniform furrows, with an old cultivator. And +he questioned whether the artists could've worked in the 90-degree desert +heat for 10 days without running short of water. Deardorff also wondered +about the lack of footprints around the symbol. Witherspoon said a rainstorm +washed'em away. Deardorff asked why the artists didn't explain why they chose +the ancient meditation symbol. "It's as if they want to stay away from any +discussion of the symbol. I can't see anything in the confession letter that +rings true." Deardorff's filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the +BLM to get Witherspoon's address, & said one of his associates plans to +closely question the artist. + +11-19-90 CULVER, Ind. Reported sightings of unidentified bright lights in the +sky've dozens of residents in this small farming town thinking about close +encounters, possibly of the third kind. Since early October, talk's centered +on strange light patterns hovering above the town's landscape in northern +Indiana. Melanie Wagner's seen lights about three or four times a week, +usually around 8:15 pm while driving along Indiana 10, a desolate country +road. She first saw the lights Oct. 4 & has been seeing'em every clear night +since then. "I've seen lights suspended in the sky, then go up & down, & go +in all directions. I've seen'em turn off all their lights & appear to've +disappeared. And then turn'em back on several hundred feet across the sky" +Wagner's seen four to five different light patterns but that the most +common's triangle-shaped. Other people've reported bow ties & circular +patterns. Fred Karst, editor of The Culver Citizen, said his newspaper's +received "quite a number of calls" about possible unidentified flying objects +in recent weeks. He even saw some strange lights in the sky the evening of +Oct. 4, the same night of Wagner's sighting. "I don't know whether it was a +UFO or not, but at the time, I thought it was a meteor. It descended in the +sky above me down toward the horizon. I didn't attach any greater +significance to it until I started hearing other people'd been seeing +different things that same night." While some people speculate the lights're +military aircraft, officials at Grissom Air Force Base, two counties south of +Culver, say that's not possible. "Nothing that they (citizens) describe meets +the description of what we'd be flying out here," said Lt. Bill Harrison, a +public information officer with Grissom. The base flies KC-135 strato tankers +(similar to a Boeing 707) & A-10 Thunderbolt II attack aircraft. Capt. Cathi +Kiger of the Indiana National Guard said flares're often used for training +exercises & on ranges when firing artillery. "But I can't find anything that +we might've done that'd have contributed to these lights." A dispatcher for +the Marshall County Sheriff's Dept. said the department's received "a couple +phone calls but we never found anything." And Argos Police Chief Jim Buroughs +said there're lots of "rumors on the streets but I haven't seen anything +yet." However, Gary Flagg, a security guard from Argos, has seen something, +& often. He's been keeping a log since he first spotted the lights on March +7. He was driving to work at 9:45 pm when he says he saw a white, +triangular-shaped light pattern. "I just stopped on 17th Road (in Marshall +County) & got out of the car & watched. That one was about 500 feet over the +top of the car," he said, reading from his log. "It moved real slow, +extremely slow. I don't even know how it stayed in the air." Flagg didn't +report the sighting to police, but did confide in his wife. Then on Oct. 3 & +5, he was driving with his family when again the triangle-shaped lights +appeared. His sister, Cindy Flagg, a preschool teacher who describes herself +as "a skeptic," also saw them. "There was a triangular thing going over. It'd +three or four lights...It was going really slowly & there was no sound." A +common place to watch's been the Poplar Grove United Methodist Church & +cemetery, located along Indiana 10. Jan Johnson, a Culver Citizen +photographer who went to the cemetery with Wagner one night, shot a picture +of the object, which resembles "a string of pearls. That's what the light +pattern looks like. I saw little flashing twinkling lights...I don't know +(what it was); I'm dying for someone to tell me what I've shot." + +11-26-90 MOLINE, Ill. There mayn't be a grain of truth to it, but some +Illinois farmers think they might've experienced a close encounter of the +corn kind. "People might think it's crazy," said Mike Thompson, "but it was +there." The "it" is a 64-foot, perfectly round section of flattened +cornstalks found on farmland Thompson's leasing near Moline. The patch of +crushed crop's like a 46-foot imprint found by farmer James Lawson Oct. 16 in +his field in rural Milan. Except for their differences in size, the two +patches of trampled earth're almost identical. Both're in Rock Island County +only several miles from each other, & both're a few hundred feet from major +highways. The one on Thompson's property near John Deere Expressway was found +by Port Byron farmer Mike Searle as he was helping harvest corn for Thompson. +"I about ran into it, so I backed out & went around it," Searle said. "I was +surprised. All the corn around it was standing. It was fine. There's got to +be a reason for it, but when you figure it out, tell me." Lawson's already +figured out that the circle on his property was made by an unidentified +flying object. "Whatever it was, it came down from the elements & took off," +reasoned Lawson. "I think it's a UFO landing. I think they landed there." +Lawson never believed in UFOs before. "But I definitely do now." Word of the +first strange circle brought hundreds of onlookers to Lawson's farm, & he's +been interviewed by dozens of reporters. Lawson was scheduled to appear on +NBC's "Unsolved Mysteries" with people from North Dakota & Missouri who also +discovered circles in their corn fields. But when the other two men decided +against being interviewed, the show was canceled. Rock Island County Sheriff +Mike Grchan plans to consult experts at the universities of Illinois & Iowa +& to ask the Illinois State Police to've their patrol airplane keep an eye +out for anything similar. In the meantime, Grchan's a few ideas about how the +circles got there. One's that the phenomenon was caused by the wind. Another +is that "It's reallyn't explainable." + +12-01-90 CASPER, Wyo. Unidentified flying objects're actually messengers from +a higher intelligence trying to help people understand reincarnation. Leo +Sprinkle, a former University of Wyoming professor, said that 75% of the +people who have'd some contact with UFOs believe in reincarnation, showing +the two issues're linked with each other. Encounters with UFOs can be +experienced at four scientific levels, ranging from the physical level to the +spiritual level. At the physical level, researchers hope to prove or disprove +the existence of UFOs with physical evidence, while at the spiritual level, +UFOs're seen as "a program for cosmic consciousness conditioning," improving +awareness of reincarnation. + +12-31-90 ASHEBORO, NC It fell from the sky over Randolph County, butn't +everyone can say what it was. Steve Harrell's 7-year-old son saw it & cried +"Jet crash! Jet crash!" Harrell turned his video camera toward it & began +shooting. "It was a bright light falling from the sky," said Harrell. "I +didn't know what to think. It looked like a big ball of fire. It started +floating down & then it was gone." He heard no crash & found no jet, & was +left with the suspicion he'd witnessed something strange about 5:30 pm that +Christmas Day as he videotaped son Nathan on his new go-kart. "I don't think +it came from outer space. There's an explanation. Got to be." The Asheboro +Municipal Airport didn't have one, neither did the Randolph County Sheriff's +Dept., neither did the local television crew who took Harrell out in a +helicopter to search the area. George Fawcett, director of the NC Mutual UFO +Network, thinks he knows. "Off the top of my head, with out having really +investigated, it looks good. It fits the pattern of a large number of UFO +sightings in North Carolina large objects seen at low altitude...multiple +lights." + +01-14-91 VANCOUVER, BC A UFO organization says tiny worms could hold a clue +to the mysterious rings that've appeared in fields from England to northern +British Columbia. The rings've been blamed on everything from whirlwinds to +UFO's. Scientific analyses of soil from 2 Canadian crop circles show +astronomically high numbers of microscopic nematodes threadlike, often +parasitic worms that live in the soil, said Mike Strainic of MUFON. Soil +samples from rings in Saskatchewan & Dawson Creek were sent to agricultural +scientists in eastern Canada & the United States. Soil from both rings'd +identical counts of nematodes 8 times that of inside & outside the rings. +"Scientists are looking into the significance of the high count," adding that +more analysis is being done on the samples. + +03-12-91 LOS ALAMOS, NM Oft-maligned UFO-debunker Phillip J. Klass chided +people who cling to flying-saucer lore, telling a Los Alamos National +Laboratory colloquium such believers've failed to produce any evidence. Klass +spends 20 to 40 hours a week investigating reported sightings of unidentified +flying objects, or UFOs. All're explainable as meteor firefalls, abandoned +space junk burning up as it re-enters Earth's atmosphere, ball lightning or +retail UFO kits such as balloons with flares attached. "There's not a single +piece of physical evidence, a single piece of metal that could not've been +made in this world...not a single photograph that'll hold up under rigorous +scrutiny," Klass told about 300 people. Most of'em were Los Alamos +scientists. He drew laughter as he told of 1 sighting reported by a woman +who's dog shrank to the ground in terror. The dog was whimpering because it +was cold out that night. Her sighting on March 3, 1968, was among several +from people hundreds of miles apart. All reported seeing a cigar-shaped craft +in the sky over the Midwest. Klass said it was a jettisoned Soviet rocket +burning up as it fell to Earth. He said 98% of all such sightings come from +people who sincerely believe they saw a UFO. Kendrick Frazier, editor of +Skeptical Enquirer magazine, said Klass "is hated & detested by UFO +believers. He comes up with powerful evidence to puncture holes in their +claims." Klass, former senior avionics editor with Aviation Week & Space +Technology magazine, has written 4 books on UFO's, including "UFOs: The +Public Deceived." Klass criticized former New York Times reporter Howard +Blum, who's written a book called "Out There: The Government's Secret Quest +for Extraterrestrials." "Blum's written a book that's essentially fiction & +labeled it non-fiction." + +03-11-91 CUSTER, S.D. Davina Ryszka says her hobby sometimes makes people +look at her a little funny. She likes to check into sightings of unidentified +flying objects. Ryszka's the state director of the Mutual UFO Network, a +Texas-based non-profit corporation that tries to document UFOs. Ryszka'd like +South Dakotans to keep their eyes to the skies for unusual objects butn't to +forget the ground, too. Her group's checking out some puzzling rings found in +crop fields. Circle-shaped patterns of flattened crops're most common in +England, but they've also appeared in Japan, New Zealand, the Soviet Union & +South Dakota. Last year, a circle appeared under a power line in a pasture +south of Eagle Butte. And last summer, a question mark-shaped depression +showed up in a Leola-area wheat field. Nobody's been able to explain the +patterns. Ryszka's been interested in UFOs since she was a teen-ager on her +parents' ranch in western Montana. There were plenty of UFO sightings there, +although she's never seen 1. "I've always hoped to." She's sure that reports +of unexplained events & objects like UFOs point to an exciting conclusion, +but she's not sure just what it is. "I've read so many accounts from so many +good, upstanding citizens. They'd have nothing to gain by going public." But +she'll risk having people "look at you a little funny" in order to be a +clearinghouse for observations & sightings of things that can't be readily +explained. Ryszka gets help from a Winner woman, Yvonne Hermsen, who said +some people might think she's as strange as the crop rings she's +investigated. "I may get branded as a real nut case." Recently, strange +lights in eastern South Dakota, possibly from a meteor, were all the rage. +"They caused a lot of talk & commotion around here." + +03-25-91 BILOXI, Miss. It's been 17 years, but Charles E. Hickson still +remembers every detail of his intriguing abduction by aliens onto an +unidentified flying object in Pascagoula in 1973. Hickson, 1 of 4 speakers at +the first UFO International Conference held in Biloxi, told of his unique UFO +experience that occurred on a fishing trip with his friend, Calvin Parker. +Sitting on a bank near a bridge on the Pascagoula River, Hickson & Parker +unexpectedly saw an unusual round or oblong aircraft about 30 feet long land +near them. Immediately they were approached by 3 robot-like creatures who +picked Hickson up & carried him aboard the aircraft. "Calvin fainted so he +didn't know what'd happened, but I was carried aboard by these robots. Once +inside an object came out of the wall which seemed to scan my entire body +from top to bottom. I saw living beings through a window but they never +touched me or said anything to me." The beings in the window looked similar +to humans, with light colored skin & normal facial features. "I didn't know +what was going on. But I felt suspended for about an hour or hour & a half +while they inspected me." Eventually, the robots took Hickson back outside to +the river bank & the aircraft left, leaving him in a state of shock & +disbelief. However, knowing that his experience wasn't his imagination +playing tricks on him, Hickson's come very strongly to believe that what +happened to him was a visit by real alien beings who arrived on earth from +another planet or sphere in what're known as unidentified flying objects. +He's continued to've contact with the aliens in the years since that time & +that there'll be further UFO activity in the near future. "There's no doubt +in my mind that UFOs exist." Also speaking at the conference, which drew +several hundred UFO enthusiasts from across the Gulf Coast & other parts of +the United States, were UFO experts Antonio Huneeus, a UFO investigator & +researcher; Budd Hopkins, an author of UFO books who himself experienced a +sighting in 1964; & Stanton Friedman, a UFO investigator, scientist, author +& maker of documentary UFO movies. Huneeus said UFOs're a global phenomenon +& has recently, since the period of Glasnost in the USSR, been able to study +many sightings in Russia which were formerly kept secret. Sightings've +occurred in almost every country around the world. Showing slides of +photographs said to be taken of actual UFOs, 1 of the problems all legitimate +UFO investigators must deal with're the people who deliberately take photos +or make claims which later're proven to be hoaxes. "We do study UFOs +seriously, & we may not've the final answers, but we do believe we've some +evidence that some UFO sightings're real." Friedman, who's studied the +phenomenon for 32 years, is convinced that some UFOs're indeed alien aircraft +& that the US government's known this to be true since 1947. "None of the +arguments made by the skeptics can stand up under careful scrutiny. Alien +visits're the biggest story of the past millenium." + +03-26-91 GRAND FORKS, N.D. A University of North Dakota professor & his +son've been interviewed about their alleged run-in with extraterrestrials for +a television show about unidentified flying objects. John Salter & his son +were interviewed for the television show "UFO Abductions" which its producer, +Sharron Gayle, said's likely to air on CBS television later this year. The +interviews'll be combined with actors' portrayals of their alleged 1988 +encounters. Salter says his health's improved in 21 ways since the incident. +The professor, who chairs the Indian studies department at UND, now teaches +a class about UFOs. + +04-01-91 Nebraskans who think they've seen ghosts, unidentified flying +objects or other weird things now've a telephone help line they can call for +assistance & information. E.A. Kral of Grand Island, an English teacher with +an interest in paranormal phenomena, started the Nebraska Scientific Claims +Investigation phone line 3 years ago with a $10,000 donation to the +University of Nebraska Foundation. "It seems to me it answers the question +`who do you call?' & it answers it in a responsible, professional manner. +This' not a matter of reinforcing beliefs. It's a matter of trying to seek +the truth." A caller to the line got a recorded message saying reports of +paranormal phenomena could be left on a recording device, & the call'd be +returned later. The answering machine's located in Omaha, at the University +of Nebraska Medical Center Dept. of Psychiatry. During regular business +hours, staff members take messages & either return calls or refer'em to local +people with expertise in the particular topic of the call. The phone number's +402-559-5035. Despite limited publicity, about 50 serious callers've +contacted the phone line, said facilitator Katherine Karrer. More than half +of the calls've come from students or others doing research on topics in the +paranormal. The line offers confidential help & information to people with +questions about the paranormal. Kral saw the need for the phone line after +his own experience delving into reports of UFOs during the 1970s. Originally +a believer, Kral became a skeptic after years of research. In the process, he +realized that people who were curious or concerned about paranormal topics'd +nowhere to turn for independent, scientific information. People seeking +information're referred to a collection of materials housed at the McGoogan +Library of Medicine at the medical center. The collection, which was set up +with an additional donation from Kral, includes materials by both believers +& skeptics on each topic. Other calls come from people who've had unexplained +experiences or've questions about paranormal claims. "It's mostly for people +who were very uncomfortable with the phenomena. Usually they just really want +to talk to someone who knows about it." The calls've covered a variety of +topics, including several ghostly experiences & 1 from a person reporting +time travel. The phone gets a workout whenever there's publicity about a +strange phenomenon or when a movie about the occult's released. If that +pattern holds, the line might get a rash of calls in May following the third +annual conference on Exploring Unexplained Phenomena in Lincoln. Topics to be +covered at the May 17-19 conference, sponsored by the Fortean Research Center +of Lincoln, will include ghosts, crop circles, UFOs & spontaneous human +combustion. It'll be at the Nebraska Center for Continuing Education. Among +conference speakers: John Keel, author of several books & articles on the +unexplained; Larry Arnold, a researcher on spontaneous human combustion; +Harry Jordan, who says he's evidence of architectural artifacts on Mars; +William Roll, a parapsychologist; & Budd Hopkins, a UFO abduction researcher. +There's a fee for the conference. + +04-08-91 EUREKA SPRINGS, Ark. Lou Farish's heard the snickers of those who +discount talk of cow mutilations, crop circles & extraterrestrial +kidnappings. But he isn't laughing. He helped organize the third annual +Ozarks UFO Convention. "I'm assuming the skeptics don't know anything about +the subject or they don't want to face the implications of the subject. They +don't want their world disturbed." About 400 people attended. "The +implication of the subject...is we're definitelyn't alone. I don't know if +we're in danger. There's that possibility," said the part-time postal clerk +who publishes a UFO news-clipping service with worldwide circulation. +"There're beings out there who don't seem to've any hostile intent toward us. +There're other beings out there who simply don't care they've an agenda to +carry out & they don't care if we know about it. They're going to do their +job. Period. I don't know if there're any out there who're hostile or not. +But the universe's a big place." The conference featured UFO researchers from +the United States & other countries. Linda Howe, an author & film producer +from Pennsylvania, spoke about animal mutilations. Farish said a cow was +mangled in Berryville 2 months ago by an incision produced by high heat, +along the lines of a laser. Sergei Bulantsev, a UFO researcher from the +Soviet Union, told conference-goers that aliens in his country're better +looking than those in the United States. "They're just like Europeans, like +foreign tourists," he said of the aliens that visit the Soviet Union. "It +seems to be different teams of aliens're operating in our 2 countries." +George Wingfield of Glastonbury, England, said circles're being cut out of +crop fields all over the world. He wasn't sure why the numbers of +incidents're increasing. "I can't explain, but it does seem that there's been +a sort of response to the fact that people're & taking interest in these +sightings." + +04-15-91 EUGENE, Ore. The UFO Contact Center International provides a haven +from the hostility & ridicule that follows the terror of being abducted by +aliens, members say. "I tried to talk to a close friend, & now we haven't +talked since. I get that from a lot of people," center board member Clay +Kruger said. "But (at the center) I wasn't laughed at, I wasn't ridiculed. I +could talk to people who'd real good track records, real pillars of society." +Several members shared their unearthly stories with a small audience at the +University of Oregon. Kruger's first contact with UFOs occurred in July 1989 +at his home in Kent, Wash. He awakened 1 night to see a cylindrical object +outside, about 6 by 8 feet. It radiated a purple glow around the back yard & +later went to the front of the house. Suddenly, he found himself against a +wall with nothing beneath him. He looked down to see a grass field in his +neighborhood. Kruger recounted 2 more nocturnal episodes alien contact 1 +featuring a monkey-like being in his living room. Aileen Bringle, director of +the UFO Contact Center International, said the trauma of her first encounter +38 years ago led her to organize the center in 1978. Today, there're 60 +regional groups in North America. Bringle, of Federal Way, Wash., described +her first encounter in 1953. It was midnight. She was asleep in the car next +to her husband, who was driving west near Pendleton. She awakened to his +screams & looked out the window to see the entire landscape fully illuminated +in green. "When something unknown's happening, there's no way to rationalize +it. We thought it was Hanford blowing up." Eventually the sky darkened & the +couple went on their way. Since then, Bringle's seen a UFO over Wyoming; been +told by her ex-husband that 5 aliens entered his bedroom & stomped on a pair +of shoes; & earlier this year awakened to find fingerprints on the insides of +her thighs. "That really disturbed me. I live alone." Bringle said the debate +about UFO contact intensified in 1987 when author Whitley Strieber published +"Communion," an account of being abducted from his secluded New York cabin. +"Scoffing at (abductees) is as ugly as laughing at rape victims," he wrote. +In 1988's "UFO Abductions: A Dangerous Game," Philip J. Klass included a +"Post Script for Potential Abductees." "If you worry that your teenage +daughter may be abducted & impregnated with UFOnaut sperm," he wrote, "shift +your worries to more prosaic causes of pregnancy." Bringle calls Klass a +"paid debunker." Francesco Pagliaro set up the meeting after reading a letter +Bringle'd written in Omni magazine. "I know these people're sincere. You can +see it in their faces." + +04-30-91 COHOES, N.Y. ALIENS GIVE ABDUCTEE GOOD HEALTH, BAD WORK RECORD! +Cruel-To-Be-Kind Space Magi Implant Disease-Killing Licorice Stick! Jobless +Victim Laments: `They Ruined My Life, But Cured My Cold!' Were life a +supermarket tabloid, those headlines'd sum up Richard Price's story. When he +was 8, aliens did take him aboard their ship. They did implant a substance +soft, like stale licorice in his stomach, an implant that seemed to keep him +healthy. They did spoil his employment prospects, messing up his mind so he +couldn't hold a job. Really. A Florida insurance company took his story so +seriously it agreed to pay off on a prank UFO abduction insurance policy. +Price's getting $10 million-a dollar a year for 10 million years. UFO +devotees & skeptics agree that Price probably believes his own story. UFO +believers say they can't absolutely prove it, but they're willing to accept +his tale. Skeptics say they don't have to prove anything that Price proves +he's a kook every time he opens his mouth. Family, friends, psychiatrists +these were the first to disbelieve Price's tale. His parents warned himn't to +talk about it; he kept talking, so they stuck him in a mental hospital when +he was 17. "I finally denied it all just to get out. After that, I kind of +kept it quiet." Lately, Price's begun talking again about his alleged +abduction Sept. 23, 1955 & people're starting to, well, almost believe him. +"We've no reason to disbelieve him," says Budd Hopkins, author of the 1987 +bestseller "Intruders" about alien visitations. "I've seen nothing that'd +make me doubt that he's simply telling the truth." Retired University of +Kentucky psychologist Robert Baker, who's written scholarly articles +debunking UFO abduction claims, says Price's a harmless crank. People who +make such claims're what psychologists once called "simple schizophrenics. +They're not very bright, & they've to've some explanation for their +inadequacies." Like other UFO abduction claimants, Price's involvement with +aliens' an ongoing thing. Price says that while driving a cab, he saw 2 +glowing beings in a house. After seeing them, he suffered a 3-hour memory +lapse during which aliens may've abducted him again, or at least stiffed him +on cab fare. Price also thinks he's being trailed by 1 of the MIBs-Men In +Black: human automatons with black clothes & glasses who try to intimidate +UFO abductees into silence. "I've never heard of a UFO case that can't be +explained in prosaic or earthly terms," says Philip J. Klass, whose book "UFO +Abductions: A Dangerous Game" has become something of a bible for UFO +skeptics. If anyone can prove otherwise, he'll refund the full purchase price +of all his books. He's also offered $10,000 for proof of an alien abduction. +Confirmation by the FBI'll satisfy him. Instead of aliens doing the +kidnapping, "I could sooner believe that they're ghosts or poltergeists or +some of Santa Claus' mischievous elves." Skeptics & believers admit Price's +a troubled man. Price says "UFO stress" has kept him from holding a job for +more than a decade. The incident's hurt his marriage, & his UFO claim +embarrasses his wife & 3 sons. Price says he wants to see the aliens again & +ask "'What did you do this for, why did you screw up my life?' If they're +that advanced, it seems like they'd try to do something to help the person +they're abducting." The villains're not aliens but people such as Hopkins, +who perpetuate "this type of stupidity & nonsense," Baker says. "Through +their naivete & lack of understanding of human psychology, they've ballooned +this thing into a national headache." Abduction stories appear throughout +history, tailored to the whimsies of the times. In the Middle Ages, people +claimed flying dragons swooped down & abducted them. Later, fairies & trolls +did the kidnapping. In the late 1800s, stories appeared of aliens in +spaceships like the early dirigibles. In the 1940s, spaceships were +transformed into the flying saucers popularized by science fiction pulp +magazines. That's the kind of craft Price describes. While playing in a +cemetery by his home in nearby Troy, N.Y., Price claims, 2 helmeted aliens in +red & blue uniforms took him aboard their ship. He couldn't resist, as if his +will'd been sapped. The aliens, with pinkish-gray skin & about 4 to 5 feet +tall, showed him a movie then'd him undress so they could examine him. They +inserted the implant a 4-millimeter-long chunk of dark material & told him to +leave it alone or he'd die. It lay visible just below the skin until 1989, +when it broke through & popped out, he says. Until then, Price says, he'd +been healthy & thinks the implant may've had something to do with it. Since +the implant came out, he's suffered persistent colds. The implant's intrigued +UFO investigators. A Massachusetts Institute of Technology physicist's run +tests on the substance but says he hasn't yet identified it. "I don't know if +it's animal, vegetable or mineral," says the physicist, who asked that his +name be withheld. While Price "is a little bit of a crackpot," the physicist +says he hopes the implant'll prove to be genuine. "Finding other intelligent +life in the universe'd be completing the Copernican revolution." Implants're +common in abductees' stories, though Price's among the first UFO +investigators've been able to study. UFO researchers theorize implants may be +like radio tags humans use to track wildlife. Price's story's 1 of at least +1,000 reported cases of people who claim aliens took'em aboard their +spaceships. 1 of Price's fellow travelers' Ed Walters of Gulf Breeze, Fla., +a building contractor who thinks aliens took him on a joyride in 1988. +Walters says he was photographing UFOs when he suffered a 90-minute memory +lapse. Under hypnosis, he recalled being taken aboard a spaceship. "It's kind +of good I didn't have any conscious recall. If I could remember all that +stuff, I'm sure it'd be very disturbing." David Jacobs, a history professor +at Temple University in Philadelphia, says he & Hopkins've been awarded a +grant to find out how many people've been abducted by aliens. Jacobs won't +say how much the grant was & identifies the source of the money as a "Las +Vegas financier" who wants to remain anonymous. The details of abductees' +stories're generally hazy, a sign that they're not fabricating the tales. If +they were imagining it, dreaming or just plain faking, "every story'd be rich +& filled with idiosyncratic situations from their own lives. We know this +from hallucination & fantasy studies." In abductee accounts, the aliens seem +bored, like medical technicians tired of taking X-rays. "These creatures +don't seem to've the sensitivity of humans. They've a job to do & they do +it," says Walter Andrus, director of the Mutual UFO Network in Seguin, Texas. +"We're not talking about the standard science fiction contact, where 2 equals +meet in a dramatic situation & exchange presents. We're talking about +exploitation. Humans're just specimens." Abductees're not publicity seekers, +investigators say. Of 300 abductees Hopkins' studied, only 9 have allowed +their names to be used. Price does seek publicity, hoping it'll vindicate +him. Surprise, he's writing a book. He doesn't feel as if he's cashing in; he +figures the aliens owe him. Lately, he's gotten some dubious national +attention. He appeared on the TV tabloid show "Hard Copy" & Joan Rivers' talk +show & was written up in UFO Universe, the supermarket tabloid of UFO +magazines. Among the magazine's cover stories: "Elvis Presley's Mysterious +UFO Connection" & "Strange Pregnancies! What Do Aliens Want With Our Women?" +The purveyors of such headlines "used to be people looking for God. Now it's +aliens," says UFO skeptic Baker. "They're looking for aliens instead of God, +or Jesus, or Moses, or Napoleon. They're to be pitied. They're unfortunate +people." + +05-13-91 LINCOLNTON, NC Danny Barger of Lincolnton's never seen a UFO, but +that doesn't keep him from looking for them. Barger's a field investigator +for the Mutual UFO Network. He looks into people's reports of strange +sightings & events for evidence of UFOs & for evidence of alien life. Since +1950, investigators've documented 11 fourth-kind close encounters in North +Carolina. The fourth kind're those in which a person claims to've actually +seen an alien being or been abducted. None occurred in Lincoln or Gaston +County. Right now, Barger's investigating a case in Charlotte. The reports +get strange & stranger, such as 3-finger marks without fingerprints on the +inside of house windows. Barger keeps more than 300 books on UFOs & magazines +dating back to 1953, when he was 12. Barger himself's never seen a UFO. "I +don't go out at night looking up at the sky expecting to see one. People say, +`If I haven't seen it, it's not so.' I've got the interest without seeing it. +I've met enough people. All these people're not lying. I believe some of the +sightings're actually UFOs." + +05-18-91 GRAND FORKS, N.D. A UND professor whose story of an encounter with +aliens was featured on a network television special saysn't only Hollywood +filmmakers believe in UFOs. John Salter, chairman of Indian studies at UND, +claims to've come across a group of aliens in 1988 while driving with his son +on a highway near Richland Center, Wis. Studies show that a majority of +Americans recognize the reality of unidentified flying objects & attribute it +to extraterrestrials. The US government's more serious about UFO encounters +than it acknowledges, & even the pope's gotten in on the action. "The +Vatican, under urging by the Jesuits, has set up a special office to make +contact with visiting extraterrestrials & offer'em the Mother Church. While +that certainly says we're making progress, my feeling's the +extraterrestrials've a very satisfactory theology in their own right." Salter +watched CBS' special, "Visitors from the Unknown," on a wide screen +television with a group of 20 people in a lounge in Grand Forks. Salter's +story climaxed the hour-long show. The 15-minute segment on Salter contained +footage of an interview with him done in February in Grand Forks, as well as +narration by Salter & son John. Actors were used to recreate certain scenes. +Salter & his son both claim to've had amnesia right after the alleged +encounter. They later recalled through flashbacks their visit with a group of +aliens. The aliens were short & big-eyed. Their ships were spinning +saucer-types similar to those in popular movies such as "Close Encounters of +the Third Kind" & "E.T." Salter claims a larger alien used a "telekinetic +force" to prevent Salter from hitting the ground after he tripped. The aliens +also did medical examinations of Salter & his son. Salter also claims that +the aliens gave him a nose implant & injections in the throat & upper chest +that've resulted in a long list of beneficial physiological changes. None of +the changes've been verified by doctors. Salter's colleagues at UND seem to +believe his story, or at least're too polite to say otherwise. "I've +encountered virtually no open skepticism. I assume there's some. It just +hasn't been openly manifested. My UFO courses've been brimful. No sweat with +the students." The aliens were nice & he wouldn't mind seeing'em again. + +05-28-91 HUNT, Texas Unlike its counterpart in England, there's no question +about who built the Kerr County arches. But why Stonehenge II was built's +just as elusive as the mystery surrounding the prehistoric megaliths rising +up from the English countryside. "We didn't set out to build Stonehenge," +said Al Shepperd, who designed it along with neighbor Doug Hill. "We were +just messing around with rock & it kind of grew. We certainly'd no idea the +way it'd turn out." Far from the Salisbury Plain, this modern-day monument +rises in a pasture along a rural lane in the Hill Country, 2 miles west of +Hunt on Farm Road 1340 about 115 miles west of Austin. The massive +structure's generally 60% as tall as the original & 90% as large in +circumference. "When you turn the corner, you know what a great curiosity +it's & the mindset why's it here? Why's the original 1 built where it is?" +said Phil Neighbors, executive vice president of the Kerrville Area Chamber +of Commerce. Many theories exist about the origins of the English Stonehenge, +but no 1 knows for sure who built it or what prompted its conception. But +Stonehenge II was born at the Kerrville dump in the summer of 1989. Hill, a +tile contractor, was gathering limestone for his patio but decided 1 stone +was too large for his use. So he crossed the road & stood it upright in +Shepperd's field. "Doug pulled up at 7:30 am & said `I've got a rock out here +for you,'" said Shepperd. "I said, `It looks kind of funny by itself, let's +put an arch somewhere.'" Hill constructed an arch 13 feet tall, with a 3-foot +wide opening. Together, the haphazardly placed limestone & the man-made frame +reminded Shepperd of Stonehenge, which he'd visited earlier in 1989. The 2 +then set out to create a replica of the famous landmark. From August 1989 to +May 1990, Hill built hollow plaster arches that were reinforced with steel +rods & metal lath. Each pillar of the arches' set in concrete for stability. +The plaster was tinted a dark gray & allowed to weather to resemble the stone +of the original. The 4 inner arches're 11-12 feet tall. The ones that ring +the outside vary from 9 to 11 feet tall to compensate for the slope of the +land. 5,000 square-feet of plaster & 800 bags of cement were used in the +construction. Hill was more interested in making the Stonehenge replica look +right than trying to match the scale of the original. He didn't attempt to +align the sculpture with astronomical bodies as the original Stonehenge +appears to be since the hills in the area block the sun at various times +anyway. "It's probablyn't perfect, but it gets the point across. It's a play +thing. I like to think of it as a work of art, but I haven't found anyone +else who needs 1." Since the early days of construction, cars've screeched to +a halt when the project comes into view. Already, there's been a wedding, +youth campouts & numerous photo sessions including 1 for a ballet troupe & +rock album cover at the site. The story's appeared on national television & +in a children's magazine. "People thought we were crazy. They thought we were +getting into satanism." Butn't everyone likes Stonehenge II. An employee of +a nearby youth camp told him she looks the other way when she drives by +because she believes the design's evil. "She's thoroughly against it, like it +was an idol." But most people see the sculpture as a quirky tourist +attraction. "It's another thing that draws attention to Kerrville & Kerr +County." The Kerrville Area Chamber of Commerce includes the sculpture on its +list of attractions. "We encourage people to come & look." Shepperd & Hill're +planning to add a log book for visitors to sign. T-shirts depicting the +project're also a possibility. The 2 designers now're discussing a second +project in the 22-acre field that'd depict the crash of an unidentified +flying object. It'll be up to the visitor to decide if the UFO's any symbolic +connection to Stonehenge. Shepperd generally visits the site during the day +& doesn't get hooked into its mysticism. Hill, though, says the replica's a +special place. "I come out every solstice. Full moons're really nice to see +the shadows on the ground's something you can't experience anywhere else." At +leastn't in Kerr County. There's a slightly scaled down, but mathematically +correct Stonehenge at the University of Missouri-Rolla that was built by some +years back by some engineering students. + +06-24-91 COLLEGE PARK, Md. If you think you've seen Elvis recently, call Chip +Denman immediately for a reality check. Denman's Mr. Bah Humbug himself. He's +president of the National Capital Area Skeptics, a 350-member society of +debunkers & naysayers who claim to serve "at the front lines in the battle +against gullibility & fraud." They erupt in rib-poking laughter at rumors +that Elvis Presley's still alive. Their eyebrows arch at mention of ghosts, +UFO abductions or the wonders of astrology. Bigfoot sightings're dismissed as +hokum, New Age mysticism as balderdash. But Denman, a pony-tailed +statistician at the Univ. of Maryland, hastens to squelch any suggestion that +his colleagues're mere spoilsports. "We're not a bunch of old fogies who sit +around harrumphing & scoffing. We try to maintain a high level of good humor +& a sense of fun about what we're doing." The group publishes a quarterly +newsletter titled "Skeptical Eye" & a monthly calendar of events called +"Shadow of a Doubt." Members attend a "Seeing's Believing" film series & hear +lectures on such topics as "Magic of the Gurus of India" & "Animal Quackers: +Pseudoscience for Pets." Denman & a magician friend staged a Halloween show +titled "Seance! or Things That Go Bump in the Night," a theatrical spoof of +the clairvoyant's tricks of the trade. For more than a year, the skeptics've +offered a $1,000 award to anyone who can demonstrate psychic powers mind +reading, dousing or levitation, for example under scientific test conditions. +So far, nobody's stepped forward. Led by Denman, the skeptics banded together +4 years ago to promote scientific inquiry based on hard evidence, & to combat +"irrationality, superstition & just plain nonsense." They include scientists, +educators, lawyers, doctors & other white-collar professionals. "We all share +the idea that the scientific process' a good strategy for working in the +world & making decisions, no matter whether you're getting medical treatment +or buying a used car. We say, go kick the tires. Don't take the salesman's +word for it." Denman's not only a scientist but's been an amateur magician +since childhood, when he was fascinated by his father's card tricks. "As a +scientist, I'm concerned with how things really work. And as a magician, I've +come to appreciate how bright, well-educated, intelligent people can be +fooled so easily." Denman doesn't believe in ghosts. "To believe in +apparitions'd require a radical change in what we know about modern physics." +Most people've had some "remarkable, compelling, personally spooky +experiences' that defy explanation, but mistakenly try to explain'em as +paranormal events. "As a scientist, I'd much rather say I don't know what it +was." Denman doesn't rule out the possibility of future contact with +intelligent beings from an alien planet. He finds that prospect much more +plausible than speaking with the voice of a long-dead warrior from Atlantis, +or willing your body to float in air, or bumping into an older, wiser Elvis +somewhere. "I can say with some degree of certainty that I've never seen +Elvis walking around my neighborhood. I'm so skeptical that I can hardly +believe it." The telephone number for the National Capital Area Skeptics' +301-587-3827. + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. 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Frederick Valentich was on a 125 mile training flight in +his +single engine Cessna 182 along the coast of Bass Strait when he told air +traffic controllers in Melbourne that he was being buzzed by a UFO with 4 +bright lights about 1000 feet above him. + +Controllers said his last message was taped and was: "It's approaching from +due east towards me. It seems to be playing some sort of game... flying at a +speed I can't estimate. It's not an aircraft. It's...It is flying past. It +is a long shape. I cannot identify more than that. It's coming for me right +now." A minute later: "It seems to be stationary. I'm also orbiting and the +thing is orbiting on top of me also. It has a green light and a sort of +metallic light on the outside." Valentich then radioed that his engine was +running roughly. His last words were: "It is not an aircraft." + +The Australian Air Force said it had received 11 reports from people along +the +coast who said they saw UFOs on Saturday night, but the Transport Department +was skeptical. Ken Williams, a spokesman for the department, said, "It's +funny all these people ringing up with UFO reports well after Valentich's +disappearance. It seems people often decide after the event, they too had +seen strange lights. But although we can't take them too seriously, we can +never discourage such reports when investigating a plane's disappearance." + +Some Transport Dept officials have speculated that Valentich became +disoriented and saw his own lights reflected in the water, or lights from a +nearby island, while flying upside down. + +Valentich's father, Guio, said his son used to study UFOs "as a hobby using +information he had received from the Air Force. He was not the kind of +person +who would make up stories. Everything had to be very correct and positive +for +him. The fact that they have found no trace of him really verifies the fact +that UFOs could have been there." Guio Valentich said he hoped his son hadn't +crashed but had been taken by a UFO. + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + Article #: 3 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 06-17-1986 + Subject: 1978 NEW ZEALAND ALERT + +SOURCE: AP AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND + DATE: 02 JANUARY 1979 - SIGHTING DATE 21 DECEMBER 1978 + + +A television news team from Melbourne, Australia says it filmed a UFO on +Saturday night while flying over the Kaikoura region of New Zealand's South +Island. Aviation authorities reported that the UFO was apparently tracked by +radar as well, and the Royal New Zealand Air Force put a Skyhawk jet fighter +on special standby alert. + +The pilot of the news team's plane said he first noticed a bright white light +about 20 miles ahead, and "It appeared to stay still until we got within 10 +miles, then it turned with us as I changed course. It then went above us and +circled and came down beneath us. It was making definite movements in +relation to us." + +PHOTOGRAPH: AP. UFO filmed by New Zealand news team. + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + Article #: 4 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 06-17-1986 + Subject: 1979 CIA UFO SURVEILLANCE + +SOURCE: NYT (PHOENIX, AZ) + DATE: 01 JANUARY 1979 + + +CIA PAPERS DETAIL UFO SURVEILLANCE + +Ground Saucer Watch (GSW), an Arizona-based nation-wide UFO research +organization of about 500 scientists, engineers and others, said on Friday it +has obtained 1,000 pages of CIA documents under a freedom of information suit +which show that the agency has been secretly involved in UFO surveillance +since 1949 - even though the CIA has repeatedly said its investigation ended +in 1952. William Spaulding, an aerospace engineer with AiResearch and head of +GSW, said "the Government has been lying to us all these years. After +reviewing the docments, GSW believes that UFOs do exist, they are real, the +U.S. Government has been totally untruthful, and the cover-up is massive." + +Mr. Spaulding said the documents show that U.S. embassies are used to gather +information on UFO sightings which "seems to be directed to the CIA, the +White +House and the National Security Agency." A CIA memo dated August 1, 1952, +recommended continued agency surveillance of "flying saucers", saying, "It is +strongly urged, however, that no indication of CIA interest or concern reach +the press or public, in view of their probably alarmist tendencies to accept +such interest as confirmatory of the soundness of 'unpublished facts' in the +hands of the U.S. Government." + +Among the documents are several detailed reports of USAF attempts to either +intercept or destroy UFOs. In a 1976 incident in Iran, two F-4 Phantom jet +fighter-bombers pursued a large UFO that was sending out smaller craft. One +of the smaller craft "headed straight for the F-4 at a very fast rate of +speed. The pilot attempted to fire an AIM-9 missile at the object but at that +instant his weapons control panel went off and he lost all communications." +the pilot eluded the craft, then watched as it "returned to the primary +object for a perfect rejoin." + +A CIA document dated October 2, 1952, shows that a major point of concern is +that UFO sightings could mask Russian air attacks or "psychological warfare". +This report to the CIA director from the assistant director for the Office of +Scientific Intelligence recommends that the National Security Council be +advised of the "implications of the flying saucer problem"; that the matter +be +discussed with the Psychological Strategy Board; and that the CIA help +"develop...a policy of public information which will minimize concern and +possible panic resulting from the numerous sightings of unidentified +objects." + +A November, 1975 document directs against acknowledging any pattern in +sightings. "Unless there is evidence which links sightings, or unless media +queries link sightings, queries can best be handled individually at the +source +and as questions arise. Response should be direct, forthright and emphasize +that the action taken was in response to an isolated or specific incident." + +According to Mr. Spaulding, "We find a concentration of sightings around our +military installations, research & development areas. The UFO phenomenon is +following what our own astronauts are doing on other plants - we send a +scoutship, we take soil samples and then we land." Mr. Spaulding said he has +sworn statements from retired USAF colonels that at least 2 UFOs have crash- +landed and been recovered by USAF. One crash was in New Mexico in 1948, and +the other near Kingman, AZ in 1953. The retired officers claimed they got a +glimpse of dead aliens who were in both cases about 4 feet tall with +silverish complexions and silver outfits that "seemed fused to the body from +the heat." + +GSW is waiting for a Federal judge to rule on the last phase of its CIA suit, +which seeks access to 57 items that could provide "hard evidence" of UFOs +with +"retreivals of the third kind" such as motion pictures, gun camera film and +residue from landings. Among the films they want is 40-48 frames taken in +1952 by Ralph Mayher, then a cameraman for KYW-TV, Cleveland, OH, and now a +GSW member. USAF borrowed the film in 1957 and has never returned it; +officially stating the filmed object was a meteor. Said Mr. Spaulding, +"We're past the story-telling stage. We have to have it in black and white +to satisfy the scientific community". + + ============================================================================= + + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3074.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3074.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..05a80c0e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3074.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,147 @@ +SUBJECT: ASSORTED AP REPORTS FILE: UFO3074 + + + +PART 3 + + + + ============================================================================ + + Article #: 5 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 06-17-1986 + Subject: 1966 DR. J.E. McDONALD + +SOURCE: AP (PIERRE, SD) + DATE: 21 OCTOBER 1966 + + +PHYSICIST SCORES `SAUCER' STATUS + +Dr. James E. McDonald, professor of meteorology at the U of Arizona and +senior +physicist at the Institute of Atmospheric Physics, yesterday urged a "radical +change" in the investigation of unidentified flying objects. Dr. McDonald +said that explaining saucers as extra-terrestrial visitors seems "absurd," +but that now seems to be the "least unsatisfactory hypothesis" for at least +some of the sightings. "I believe this is a problem of the first order of +scientific importance. It has been neglected and misrepresented and is +crying for high- caliber attention." For about 12 years, he has interviewed +anyone in the Tucson area who reported seeing unusual objects in the sky, and +now the rash of sightings across the country and Congressional attention on +the subject has increased his own interest. + +Dr. McDonald said that 18 years of "administrative foul-up" by USAF, "a very +low level of scientific competence," and deliberate debunking of UFO +sightings +had frightened away scientists and left needless confusion in the public's +mind. While he is convinced there is no attempt "to cover up a +super-secret," +he says he found evidence in a USAF document that the CIA in 1953 asked USAF +to `debunk' saucer reports because they were clogging vital military +reporting channels and demanding too much time of investigators. The CIA +reiterated a statement it made earlier this month that the agency had helped +analyze sighting reports of unidentified flying objects in the early 1950's +to help determine if some objects "might have originated overseas. "USAF at +that time concluded that the objects were not hostile `artifacts' of foreign +or extraterrestrial origin. "Presently, the subject of UFOs is a +responsibility of the Air Force and we have absolutely no interest either in +building up or debunking any information regarding, or views on, UFOs." +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 6 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 06-17-1986 + Subject: 1968 SCIENT.RECOMM.STUDY + +SOURCE: NYT (DC) + DATE: 30 JULY 1968 + + +SIX SCIENTISTS RECOMMEND FLYING SAUCER STUDY + +At a hearing yesterday before the House Committee on Space and Astronautics, +several witnesses urged Federal support for a huge program to collect +information aimed at finally settling the decades old debate on UFOs. The +committee chairman, Representative J. Edward Roush of Indiana, urged 3 months +ago that Congress take over the saucer investigation being conducted by USAF +after challenging the objectivity of the study. + +Dr. J. Allen Hynek of Northwestern U said the USA should seek UN cooperation +in setting up "an international clearing house" for UFO information "because +there is almost a total lack of quantitative data" on the subject. Dr. James +E. McDonald, a U of Arizona meteorologist, said that the scientific community +tended to discount saucer reports because there was no scientific data, and +yet these same scientists would not support the collection of such data. He +also contended that the news media, including one New York City newspaper, +was refusing to print news of UFO sightings. Dr. Hynek and Dr. McDonald were +supported by Dr. Robert L. Hall, a U of Illinois sociology professor; Dr. +Robert M. L. Baker Jr. of the Computer Sciences Corporation, El Segundo, CA; +and Dr. James A. Harder, an associate professor of engineering at the U of +California, Berkeley. Dr. Carl Sagan of Cornell U, author of Intelligent +Life in the Universe, took the least positive stand on the existence of UFOs. +Instead of an expensive UFO data gathering program which has a high risk of +achieving positive results, he advocated instead an attempt to contact other +civilizations with radio astronomy coupled with unmanned plenetary space +flights. Dr. Sagan added facetiously that "it may be that things are so bad +here that someone up there will come to save us from ourselves." + +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 7 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 06-17-1986 + Subject: 1966 UFOS CALLED GAS + +SOURCE: NYT (DETROIT) + DATE: 26 MARCH 1966 + + +FLYING OBJECTS ARE CALLED GAS + +Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a Northwestern University Astrophysicist who is also +USAF's civilian investigator of unidentified flying objects, after studying +the widely witnessed Dexter and Hilsdale UFO sightings in southern Michigan, +has called the report by 87 coeds, a college dean, and a civil defense +director from Hillsdale "a very puzzling sighting. There has been a flood of +other reports from this area and I could not possibly have the time to +investigate all of these." The other reports were of little scientific +value, he added, because there were no substantial groups of witnesses +agreeing on what they had seen. The other of the "two principal events" +happened at Dexter the previous night when some 50 people reported seeing a +similar football-shaped object hovering over a swamp. + +Dr. Hynek said "This could have been due to the release of variable +quantities +of marsh gas. A dismal swamp is a most unlikely place for a visit from outer +space. It is not a place where a helicopter would hover for several hours, +or +where a soundless secret device would likely be tested." Rotting vegetation +produces the gas "which can be trapped by ice and winter conditions. When a +spring thaw occurs, the gas may be released in some quantity." This may +cause +lights "sometimes right on the ground, sometimes merely floating above it. + +The flames go out in one place and suddenly appear in another place, giving +the +illusion of motion. No heat is felt and the lights do not burn or char the +ground. They can appear for hours at a time and sometimes for a whole night. +Generally there is no smell, and usually no sound - except the popping sound +of little explosions." The astrophysicist emphasized that his explanation +did not "cover the entire UFO phenomenon over the past 20 years" and that +very few sightings could be attributed to marsh gas. + +Dr. Hynek also said that the Milan photographs taken March 17 were "without +any question" only time exposures of a rising moon and the planet Venus. The +consultant agreed with a questioner that the flying saucer phenomenon could +be an interesting field of study for other specialists such as psychologists +and sociologists. Though his investigation here, he said, is over. + + ============================================================================= + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Several hundred persons have reported seeing mysterious lights in +Mr. Ford's home state of Michigan this week. No Congressional leader has +called +for such an investigation before. Mr. Ford said he was in Michigan Thursday +night and yesterday morning "and I can assure you there is interest and I +suspect public concern" over the sightings. If swamp gas caused the lights, +Mr. Ford said, USAF should have no hesitancy in explaining that to a +committee. + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 9 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 06-17-1986 + Subject: 1966 CONGRESS REASSURED + +SOURCE: AP (WASHINGTON, DC) + DATE: 06 APRIL 1966 + + +CONGRESS REASSURED ON SPACE VISITS + +Secretary of the Air Force Dr. Harold Brown assured the House Armed Services +Committee yesterday there was no evidence that the earth had been visited by +strangers from outer space. Dr. Brown said almost all of the 10,147 +unidentified flying objects reported in the last 19 years were easily +explained, including the recent Michigan sightings, as marsh gases, pranks, +planets, comets, meteors, fireballs, and auroral streamers. But, he said, +"the Air Force has an open mind" and would continue to investigate all +reports." + +PHOTOGRAPH: Dr. Harold Brown + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 10 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 09-23-1986 + Subject: 1968 CO U ENDS STUDY + +SOURCE: NYT (DC) + DATE: 01 MAY 1968 + + +COLORADO UNIVERSITY ENDS SAUCER STUDY BUT DOES NOT DISCLOSE RESULTS + +Field investigations of UFO reports by the U of Colorado research project +were +completed on schedule today, but findings won't be discussed until the final +report is sent to the National Academy of Sciences in late September. The U +of Colorado undertook a $500,000 study of UFOs at USAF's request because +critics +accused USAF of failing to make a comprehensive, scientific investigation of +saucer reports. + +In a related development, NICAP held a news conference yesterday to announce +it has "broken with" the Colorado Project to "reveal the firing of top +project +scientists and other incidents leading to the project's failure. "A May 14 +Look article by John G. Fuller told about the oustings last February of David +R. Saunders, a psychologist, and Dr. Norman E. Levine, an electrical +engineer, and called the project the "flying saucer fiasco". On the House +floor +yesterday, Representative J. Edward Roush quoted from the Look article and +said Congress should take over the UFO investigation from USAF because grave +doubts +had arisen "as to the scientific profundity and objectivity of the Colorado +project." + +PHOTOGRAPH: E. U. Condon + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 11 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 09-23-1986 + Subject: 1966 SATEL.TERMED UNKNOWN + +SOURCE: NYT (DC) + DATE: 01 NOVEMBER 1966 + + +THREE SATELLITES TERMED UNKNOWN + +NASA's Goddard Flight Center in its Sept 30 & Oct 15 issues of the Satellite +Situation Report has listed 3 `unknowns' among the many satellites, rocket +bodies and space debris orbiting the earth. NORAD continuously monitors all +orbiting objects from more than 100 radar stations around the globe. +Information is also fed to NORAD by volunteers of the Smithsonian +Astrophysical Observatory's `Moonwatch' teams, by airline pilots and others. + +It is the first time the report has listed `unknowns' among the identified +orbiting objects. Since the objects are not considered to constitute any +danger military officials argued against listing them until they could be +identified, fearing that `flying saucer' enthusiasts would cite the objects +as +evidence the earth had extraterrestrial visitors. + +NORAD contends it has tracked objects as small as 1 foot in length, though +the +Satellite Situation Report omits any reference to the size & weight of listed +satellites. 2 of the unknowns are in an orbit inclined at 85 degrees to the +equator - an inclination close to those sometimes used for military +launchings +from Vandenberg AFB, CA; the other's orbit is inclined at 35 degrees to the +equator - a launching angle sometimes used from Cape Kennedy, FL. 1 of the 2 +in an 85 degree orbit swings from a low point of 385 miles above the earth to +3,944 miles; the other dips to 459 miles and swings out to 3,802 miles. + + ============================================================================= + + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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It is expected that the report will be made +public +at the same time as the evaluation by the National Academy of Sciences +requested by USAF. + +After investigating hundreds of UFO incidents, Dr. Condon and his staff found +that a number of episodes previously classed as inexplicable could be +accounted for by natural means or by hoaxes. In some cases, witnesses with +seemingly impeccable credentials were found to be self-contradictory and +hence their accounts were of little value. The document states that no +evidence could be found that UFOs were intelligently guided spacecraft from +beyond the earth and thus a large scale effort to determine the nature of +flying saucers would be a waste of time and money. There was also no +evidence found that the government was withholding information about the +objects from the public, except a reasonable USAF policy of delaying comment +until an investigation was completed. + +The Colorado group seems to have made every effort to remain aloof from any +USAF influence. Thus, the cases it investigated were chosen largely from the +recommendations of private groups, particularly NICAP. But as the +investigative phase of the project drew to a close in late 1967, there was a +falling out between Dr. Condon and Donald Keyhoe of NICAP, alledgedly because +of Dr. Condon's lack of sympathy for the view that some UFOs may be +visitations from other worlds. + +Other UFO enthusiasts were disenchanted when an internal university +memorandum +was presented in a magazine of national circulation as an indication of bias +against proponents of the unidentified objects. The document, written before +the project had begun, discussed whether the university could undertake the +study without incurring ridicule from the academic world while still +satisfying the public that an open-minded study was being made. Two members +of the staff were dismissed, apparently for their role in removing the +memorandum from the project's files. One was a psychologist, Dr. David R. +Saunders, who had become +a member of NICAP shortly before joining the Colorado project. This week a +book went on sale written by Dr. Saunders a journalist from Boulder, R. Roger +Harkins, entitled UFOs? Yes! Where the Condon Committee Went Wrong. Saunders +& Harkins argue that the Colorado investigation was a front contrived at the +highest echelons of government to mask the truth, and that "someone on the +project must be acting in a double role," which led to a mutual distrust +among members. + +PHOTOGRAPH: Dr. Condon (portrait) AP same as previous photograph of Condon + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 13 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 07-11-1986 + Subject: 1947 CRASHED DISK ROSWELL + +SOURCE: NEWS, SAN FRANCISCO, CA + DATE: 8 JULY 1947 + PLACE: ROSWELL, NM + +BULLETIN: + +ROSWELL, N.M., JULY 8 - Possession of a "flying disk" was disclosed today by +the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Grop of Roswell Army Air Base. + +Oficers at the base say the "disk" was flown in a Super-Forttress to "higher +headquarters" undisclosed. + +The intelligence office reported that it gained possession of the "disk: +through the co-operation of a Roswell rancher and George Wilson, sheriff at +Roswell. + +The disk landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week. Not having phone +facilities, the rancher, whose name has not yet been obtained, stored the +disk +until such time as he was able to reach the Roswell sheriff's office. + +The air base refused to give details of construction of the disk or its +appearance. + +Residents near the ranch on seeing a strange blue light several days ago +about +3:00 a.m. + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 14 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 07-12-1986 + Subject: 1966 SIGHTINGS PEAK 1,060 + +SOURCE: NYT ( DAYTON, OH ) + DATE: 15 FEBRUARY 1967 + +SIGHTINGS OF UFOs NEAR PEAK DURING 1966 + +Maj. Hector Quintanella, director of USAF's Project Blue Book, says a total +of 1,060 reports of unidentified flying objects were submitted to USAF during +1966, the second highest year's total since Blue Book began keeping records +20 years ago. + +The record high of 1,501 was in 1952; the annual average is 555. Of the +11,107 +reports since 1947, 676 remain unidentified, 30 of them from 1966. + + ============================================================================= + + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Mr. Carter said: he saw the shining, saucer-shaped object +before he became governor. + +He did not specify the date or place, but noted that he had been with friends +after a business dinner. The dispatch said: there have been a number of UFO +sightings in the South recently but did not specify how many of them had been +after business dinners. + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 16 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 07-19-1986 + Subject: 1977 CARTER,ASKED NASA + +SOURCE: WASHINGTON D.C. ( AP ) + DATE: NOVEMBER 27, 1977 +SYSTEM: CUFON + +Carter Asked Space Agency to Investigate UFO's + +President Carter had asked NASA to establish a panel of inquiry to +investigate +UFO's. Dave Williamsom, NASA's assistant for special projects, answered on +friday that NASA was "not anxious" to get into the controversy because it's +not wise to do research on something that is not a measurable phenomenon. + +There is no measurable UFO evidence such as a piece of metal, flesh or cloth. +We don't even have any radio signals. A photograph is not a measurement. But +he added that a group of technical experts he headed would recommend by the +end of the year what NASA's response should be to the white house request. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 17 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 07-19-1986 + Subject: 1977 NASA REFUSES CARTER + +SOURCE: WASHINGTON D.C. ( AP ) + DATE: DECEMBER 28, 1977 +SYSTEM: CUFON + +NASA Refuses To Reopen Investigation of UFO's + +NASA administrator Robert Frosch, in a letter last week to Pres. Carter's +science advisor Dr. Frank Press, rejected a White House request to +investigate UFO's saying that such an inquiry would be "wasteful and probably +unproductive." + +Dr. Press said: he accepted NASA's conclusions and did not plan to pursue the +matter further. NASA said: that it stood ready to analyze any "bona fide +physical evidence from credible sources," but such evidence has never been +found. + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Article #: 18 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 07-19-1986 + Subject: 1977 UN TO SET UP AGENCY + +SOURCE: NEW YORK ( AP ) + DATE: OCTOBER 08, 1977 +SYSTEM: CUFON Computer UFO Network + +UN Urged To Set Up An Agency For UFO's + +Mr.Wellington Friday, a delegate from Grenada, spoke before the UN General +Assembly Special Political Committee yesterday at the start of a debate on +how +the UN could contribute to UFO research. + +He said: the UN should establish an agency to study the sightings of physical +alien objects, contact with such objects and the exchanges with alien +creatures occupying UFO's. + +Grenada's Prime Minister Sir Eric M. Gairy has for many years asked the UN to +establish a UFO agency; delegates agreed that they needed time to prepare for +a debate on the issue later this week. --------------------------------------- +------------------------------------- + + Article #: 19 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 07-19-1986 + Subject: 1978 UN HEARS CASE - UFO + +SOURCE: NEW YORK ( AP ) + DATE: OCTOBER 15, 1978 +SYSTEM: CUFON Computer UFO Network + +United Nations Hears Case For UFO's + +For the second time in two years, the Prime Minister of the West Indies +island +of Grenada, Sin Eric Gairy, is campaigning to get the UN to set up an agency +to "collate, coordinate and corroborate information" on UFO's. + +In 1977, Gairy succeeded in getting UFO's on the General Assembly's agenda +which resulted in an agreement that any country with information or ideas on +the subject could send them to UN Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim; however, +in +the year since Waldhein has made no public mention of co-operation from +member +nations. + +Earlier this week, Gairy was at the UN making his case again: "We've passed +the stage now whether or not these things exist. I think it is accepted that +these things do exist. I think we now want to know the nature, the origin +and the intent of these saucers. Some people think they have come to do +good. Some think they have come to dominate human beings." + +He cited reported that aircraft have been put out of commission, but not +destroyed, after attacking saucers. "That comfirms my thought on their +positive intent. I believe they are coming here to help mankind because man +is so self- destructive... + +It would be very conceited for man to think that he is the most intelligent +of +God's creatures. "Sir Eric says he hes seen two UFO's in the last three +years; the second time earlier this year from a hotel room in Grenada. "The +time is going to come when everybody on Earth will have to pay attention to +the UFO phenomenon." + + ============================================================================= + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Seamans Jr. said: in a menorandum yesterday that +Project Blue Book is closed since continuation of the study of UFO's "no +longer can be justified either on the ground of National Sesurity or in the +interest +of Science." + +Project Blue Book has investigated 12,618 sighting reports during the past 22 +years, at a cost of "several million dollars." Both a committee of the +National Academy Of Sciences and a U Of Colorado group concluded earlier this +year that further studies of the so-called flying saucers would be a waste of +time and money. + +Surprisingly, the USAF decision was hailed by a number of UFO activists, but +Dr. James McDonald, a meteorologist at the U Of Arizona, said: USAF was +"writing off the UFO problem, which cries for serious scientific study ." +Dr. +Edward U. Condon, the U Of Colorado physicist who headed the UFO study, said: +recently that his investigation "was a bunch of damned - nonsense" and that +he +was "sorry I ever got involved in such foolishness." + +USAF said: UFO reports had fallen from a high of 1501 in 1952 to 146 this +year. +Stuart Nixon, secretary-treasurer of NICAP, said: sightings still occur +almost +weekly and cited the report from a group of Richmond, VA policemen who said: +they saw an object maneuvering over the city at 5:45 on Dec 5. + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 21 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 07-26-1986 + Subject: 1944 NEW GERMAN WEAPONS + +SOURCE: NEW YORK TIMES + DATE: DECEMBER 14, 1944 +SYSTEM: CUFON Computer UFO Network + +Floating Mystery Ball Is New German Weapon + +SUPREME HEADQUARTERS, Allied Expeditionary Force, Dec. 13-A new German +weapon has made its appearance on the western air front. It was disclosed +today. + +Airmen of the American Aif Force report that they are encountering silver +colored spheres in the air over German territory. The spheres are encoun- +tered either singly or in clusters. Sometimes they are semi-translucent. + + ------------------------------ + +SUPREME HEADQUARTERS Dec. 13 ( Reuter ) - The Germans have produced a +"secret" +weapon in keeping with the Christmas season. + +The new device, apparently an air defense weapon resembles the huge glass +balls that adorn Christmas trees. There was no information available as to +whatholds them up like stars in the sky, what is in them or what their +purpose is +supposed to be. + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 22 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 01-11-1987 + Subject: 1986 ALASKA 747 SIGHTING + +SOURCE: THE SEATTLE TIMES + DATE: 1 JANUARY 1987 +SYSTEM: CUFON Computer UFO Network + +UFO report no surprise to longtime believer + +`They're here to warn us of danger we are' + +by Peter Lewis +Times staff reporter + +Reports of a jumbo walnut-shaped unidentified flying object being sighted +across the Arctic skies were music to Wayne Aho's ears. + +"I'm always thrilled to hear those reports because not many get into the +news," said the Tacoma resident known as "Mr. UFO." + +Aho was referring to recent news accounts telling aof a veteran pilot who +said +three UFOs - two small ones and one shaped like a walnut and twice the size +of +an aircraft carrier - trailed his Japan Air Lines cargo jet for 400 miles as +he flew across northeastern Alaska from Iceland to Anchorage on Nov. 17. + +The pilot, his co-pilot and flight engineer on JAL Flight 1628 reported +seeing +flashing lights trail their jet. Federal Aviation Administration officials +confirmed that the controller who handled the flight saw a mysterious object +trail the jet on his radar, and Air Force officials at the Alaska Air Command +said their radar picked up something near the JAL plane. + +But Aho, founder and president of the New Age Foundation Inc., yesterday +predicted that in the coming days or weeks, news organizations will be +running +"kill stories" that cast doubt on the sighting's authenticity. + +"Someone will come up with an explnation far more impossible for anyone to +imagine as being reality," Aho said. + +That's what happened, Aho recalled, after amazed crew and passengers on a +Soviet airliner reported seeing a star-like UFO beam a thin ray on the +ground, +then turn its dazzling light on the aircraft, then become a green cloud that +"escorted" the plane during a flight over Minsk in January 1985. + +The story first appeared in a Russian newspaper. But Soviet authorities +later +discredited the report, saying the UFO was actually space junk orbiting the +Earth, Aho recalled. His memory is borne out by U.S. newspaper clips. + +"How could space junk fly alongside and not fall?" asked Aho. "How could it +follow at the speed of an airliner and fly beside it for 17 miles?" he asked. + +In the case of the newly reported sighting, Aho wondered why it has taken +nearly two months for it to make news. "What held it up?" he asked. + +Aho, who said he has personally seen UFOs nine times, believes there is a +deliberate effort on the part of the National Security Council to suppress +UFO +sightings because of the economic and political upheaval confirmed sightings +would cause.. + +Yet according to an eight-year-old Gallup Poll, 16 million Americans have +reported seeing UFOs, Aho said. And worldwide, an estimated 150 million +people have seen them, he added. + +Aho's "awakening" to UFOs started in 1957 while he was attending a UFO +convention in the Mojave Desert, where he became involved in a "close +encounter of the third kind - like the movie," he said. + +UFOs are from a superior civilization that have come here "to warn us of the +danger we are to ourselves," Aho believes. + +A self-described "70 years young," Aho said he was an intelligence officer +trained in aircraft identification who attained the rank of major in the Army +during the war. + +Robert Gribble, a retired Seattle firefighter who operates the Seattle-based +National UFO Reporting Center, has received thousands of reports of UFO +sightings over the years. He said the large, walnut-shaped UFO report in the +Arctic skies is similar to outlines previously reported. + +"I think the significant thing there is that they tracked it one radar," +Gribble said. "It lends credibility that they saw both objects (the UFO and +the plane) on the screen at the same time." + +Two weeks ago, Gribble said yesterday, he was contacted by a Japanese +reporter +in Washington, D.C., who was the first to alert him to the sighting. Gribble +said the reporter was trying to gather confirmation from various agencies to +see if they had the sighting on radar, or if it had been reported by other +airline crews, "and wanted to know if we had other reports, and of course we +didn't," Gribble said. + +In 1986, his center received an average of six reports a day of sightings +from +English-speaking people from the Caribbean across North America to Hawaii, +Gribble said. Busier years have averaged from 15 to 20 calls a day. + ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Article #: 23 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 01-11-1987 + Subject: 1986 ALASKA 747 SIGHTING + +SOURCE: UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL + DATE: 31 DECEMBER 1986 +SYSTEM: CUFON COMPUTER UFO NETWORK + + +Pilot describes `unbelievable' UFO encounter + +United Press International + +ANCHORAGE, Alaska - "It was unbelievable." + +The words belonged to Kenju Terauchi, a Japan Air Lines pilot who was trying +to describe an inflight incident that thus far has defied explanation. + +The veteran pilot says theree unidentified flying objects - two small ones +and +one twice the size of an aircraft carrier - trailed his JAL cargo jet for 400 +miles across the Arctic skies. + +Terauchi yesterday acknowledged that some of his colleagues have doubts about +what he, his co-pilot and flight engineer saw Nov. 17 as they flew from +Iceland to Anchorage. + +The crewmen of JAL Flight 1628 reported seeing flashing lights trailing their +jet that clear night to the Federal Aviation Administration, which +interviewed +the three in Anchorage. The plane later went on to Tokyo. + +FAA officials Monday confirmed the controller who handled Flight 1628 saw a +mysterious object trail the jet on his radar, and Air Force officials at the +Alaska Air Command said their radar picked up something near the JAL plane. + +In yesterday's interview, Terauchi, 47, a pilot with 29 years of experience, +said he saw three UFOs and that at one point lights from the two smaller ones +appeared directly in front of the Boeing 747 cockpit at close range. + +Terauchi referred to the objects as "the two small ships and the mothership," +and expressed amazement that they disappeared and reappeared and moved +quickly +and stopped suddenly. He said he could not explain the events, except to +speculate that he saw something of extraterrestrial origin. + +Speaking in English with occasional help from a translator, Terauchi drew +maps, pictures and supplied technical annotation to describe the incident. + +Terauchi repeatedly said the object that appeared on FAA and Air Force radar +was "a very big one - two times bigger than an aircraft carrier." + +The smaller UFOs did not appear on his radar, he said. Nor were additional +objects picked up on FAA or Air Force radar. + +Terauchi said the three crewmen saw lights from the two small objects. He +drew a picture for the FAA showing lights on a formation, each object having +what +appeared to be two panels of lights. + +The captain said he saw lights on the larger object and once, near Fairbanks, +saw it in faint silhouette eight miles away. He drew a picture of what he +saw +- something resembling a large shelled walnut. + +The crew was not frightened, Terauchi said. Their feeling was, he said, "We +want to escape from this." And so - with FAA permission and direction - the +crew dropped in altitude and made numerous turns, but the objects remained. + +"They were still following us," Terauchi said, and FAA radar confirmed that +at +least one object remained despite the maneuvers. + +Asked if he was nervous, Terauchi replied, "No, I am the captain. I cannot +be +nervous." + +Asked why he thought the UFOs would tail his plane, Terauchi laughed and +replied, "We were carrying Beaujolais, a very famous wine made in France. +Maybe they want to drink it." + +FAA security manager Jim Derry, who interviewed the crewmen, said they were +"normal, professional, rational, (and had) no drug or alcohol involvement." + +FAA flight control reports indicate the mysterious object stayed with Flight +1628 for at least 32 minutes. Terauchi said he thought it was longer. + +The flight controller directing the JAL plane reported the object on his +radar + as close as five miles to the jet. + + ============================================================================= + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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As you can see, Mr Todd retyped the message "for + easier reading." I have talked to AFOSI/DADF, Nadine Dulacki. According to + her, they did not release the message to Mr Todd nor does she know how it + came into his possession. Maj Kilikauskas (AFSAC/INOB, 664-4488) has looked + at the t( message and he feels that it is a fake for several reasons: + + a. There never has been an office within AFSAC (or 7602nd) with the + symbol INS, INSR, or IT. + + b. There has never been a "Cpt Grace" (or anyone with the surname + Grace) assigned to AFSAC. + + c. The purported imagery interpretation done is outside AFSAC's and + AFOSI's mission. Further, AFSAC has no individuals who are photo + interpreters. + + d. The term WNINTEL is spelled phonetically on each occurrence. OSI + should certainly be familiar with the correct spelling. Further, the + document is replete with grammatical errors, typing errors, and in + general, makes no sense. + + 3. The document is not in the standard, acepted format for classified + messages. + + Neither Maj Kilikauskas nor Mr Nehlig (who has worked in AFSAC many years) + remember hearing of a "Project Aquarius." Further, Maj Kilikauskas had no + idea if the information purportedly supplied by this Capt Grace is, in fact, + classified at the Secret/WNINTEL level. He suggests that both NASA and + Coast and Geodetic Survey be contacted to see if they have an interest in + the message. + + 2. Finally, I have talked to Mr Earl Middaugh (AFOSI/IVOE, 767-5144). He + remembers a FOIA request that his office staffed which involved an AFOSI + message similar to this one. However, they were unable to identify it as + OSI originated. He thinks perhaps this might be the same message. I have + forwarded a copy of the Todd request to the AFOSI Freedom of Information + Office (Bob Walker, 767-5262). Upon receipt both Mr Walker and Mr Middaugh + will be better able to determine if this is a legitimate AFOSI document. + + 3. Until a determination is made, we will regard the document as + classified. + + + SUSAN COOKSEY 2 Atch + Documentation Management Branch l. Todd Request + 2. Message, 2 cys (S/WNINTEL) + ____________________________________________________________________________ + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3080.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3080.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0891f557 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3080.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,155 @@ +SUBJECT: THE AQUARIUM CONSPIRACY FILE: UFO3080 + + + + + + +======================================================================== + + THE AQUARIUM CONSPIRACY + by + Dan Smith and Rosemary Ellen Guiley + Directors, Center for North American Crop Circle Studies + + + We stand accused, according to the various rumors that are +circulating, of being key figures in one of the greatest +conspiracies ever to hit the paranormal field. + Well, golly... shucks, folks.... + Actually, we wouldn't mind taking the credit, but out of a +sense of sheer honesty and modesty we have to report that we are +a bit short of realizing this conspiratorial goal. Nonetheless, +if others want to continue this conspiracy, then we should not be +too modest or too honest, but do what we can to keep those rumor +mills grinding. + First, though, a little background for those of you who are +joining us late. Rumor has it that we are working for the CIA, +and specifically the Aviary, to spread disinformation throughout +the crop circle-ufology fields. Lately, we have been named as +part of an alleged international disinformation conspiracy in +"Schnabelgate," the Jim Schnabel-Robert Irving-George Wingfield- +Henry Azadehdel tape circus that hit crop circles last fall. + Wingfield, one of England's leading cereologists, suspected +Irving and Schnabel of hoaxing circles in order to discredit the +phenomenon and its researchers. He enlisted the help of Henry +Azadehdel, a.k.a. Armen Victorian, a journalist who specializes +in writing exposes in the UFO field. Posing as an African +journalist, Azadehdel called first Irving and then Schnabel to +ask questions about the "conspiracy." Irving and Schnabel say +they knew what game was afoot, and put one over on Azadehdel by +embroidering a tall story of a conspiracy involving intelligence +agencies in the US, UK and Germany, and the Vatican as well. The +conversations were taped, and Wingfield took them as gospel +truth. The resulting controversy has damaged cereology and +alienated researchers. + Now Wingfield comes along to stir the pot even more, talking +about a CIA lunch we three were at last year, showing in his +lectures a slide of Rosemary seated next to a member of the +Aviary. The implication is that this was the Big Approach to +Compromise George. Sorry, George, it ain't so, and more about +"The Lunch" in a moment. + We've been publicly silent about all these allegations, +because denial only fuels more intense belief on the part of the +paranoid. Those who love rumors will continue to believe in them +and spread them, regardless of what we say. We'd rather stay out +of the rumor gutter and talk to people who are interested in the +truth. We've been asked what we're really doing. Here's our +answer. + In the beginning there was eschatology--the branch of +theology dealing with the end times. Dan, having spent many +years first studying physics and then metaphysics, came to the +conclusion that the scientists have been looking at the world +upside down. Mind, not matter, is the foundation for all +realities. Moreover, the materialist paradigm was in danger of +imminent collapse, being subverted on the inside by its own +contradictions, and on the outside by the growing body of +evidence for the paranormal. + Creating and maintaining a reality is no easy game. It +requires a lot of magic, and a lot of conscious critters like +ourselves who are pretty good at collective self-deception. +Fortunately--or perhaps unfortunately--our particular reality +game has about reached its natural conclusion, and we are waking +up to the fact that mind and matter are not separate. We are +undergoing an exciting but stressful revolution in our collective +consciousness. + This revolution, or global spiritual emergency, will bring +upheavals and overloads in our global consciousness that will +impact the material Earth for better or worse, and may quickly +get out of control. We also will be opening up to other +realities that will be impacting us as well. + Our present very tidy sense of reality and its boundaries is +due to become much more fluid and permeable. Every spiritual +tradition takes very seriously its prophesies about the end of +the world, but for the first time we are seeing these prophesies +turning into believable predictions of earth and reality changes. + That is how Dan fell from physics into eschatology. +After experiencing numerous slammed doors among his former +scientific colleagues, he decided that the most logical place to +find fellow eschatologists would be in various intelligence +agencies and among investigators of the paranormal. + Dan next addressed how to communicate about the eschaton. +Even a small hint that the government is worried about the end of +the world might start a chain reaction of panic, which could +possibly serve as a trigger for the eschaton. On the other hand, +people inside the government might be wanting to set up a kind of +civil defense network vis a vis the eschaton, and so they would +be looking for people on the outside who could much more freely +network among the general public. + An important link in the communication chain is what has +become known as the Aviary. This is the final link next to the +public network, and so it must be heavily disguised by its own +surrealistic smoke screen. The Aviary functions best by +amplifying people's own misconceptions about the paranormal. It +does this by helping to overinflate individual pieces of the +puzzle so that particular investigators get pushed further into +their own blind alleys. People are encouraged to be so +distracted by the trees that they fail to see the forest. + This cacaphony by people looking for truth in all the +strangest places provides an excellent cover for the deadly +serious business of clearing the decks and battening down the +hatches for the eschaton event. It is like a Manhattan Project +going on behind the scenes of alien grays and praying mantises +having sex with humans. However, this eschaton conspiracy is +being orchestrated by higher powers, and we don't mean the +Committee of 300. Very few of the people even near the center of +the orchestration have a clear picture of what is coming down, +but they do know that something is coming and that they will have +front row seats. + The Manhattan Project relative to the eschaton is a global +civilian network of people who will serve as a lightning rod for +the cosmic energies coming in during the consciousness +revolution. They will be looking to channel these energies +into expanded realities. Thus, they will provide a degree of +protection for those people who can find their places alongside +the network. Outside of the network there will be greater levels +of trauma and confusion. + The pieces of the network are already in place, the +remaining task is to properly activate and link the pieces +into a critical mass of awareness. This last step is now +underway. This is how an Aviary helps to spawn an Aquarium, +and how birds learn to swim. The Aquarium is our business, and +we are working to reach people who are ready to be activated in +the consciousness revolution. + Now about the CIA lunch with George Wingfield. It was +organized by Dan as a networking effort, and took place on April +15, 1992 in a restaurant in Arlington, Virginia. Besides +ourselves and George, participants included George's wife, +Gloria, three employees of the CIA and an outside colleague of +theirs. None of us knew in advance what would be discussed. +Conversation centered on eschatology, crop circles, and an +explanation of the Aviary given to George by "The Pelican." +There were no requests, no offers. + Afterward, George wondered what it was all about. The +answers are obvious, but they won't be found in rumors. + If any of this interests you, contact us. Write to P.O. Box +4766, Lutherville, MD 21094, or call Dan at 410-628-1442. + ### + +** End of article ** + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3081.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3081.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8523fcaf --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3081.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,139 @@ +SUBJECT: AQUARIUM UPDATE FILE: UFO3081 + + + + + + Sent: 02 May 93 14:01:00 + From: Vince Johnson + +The following file is courtesy of HUFON REPORT, +the newsletter of the Houston UFO Network. For more +information, call (713) 850-1352. +--------------------------------------------------------------- +Aquarium Update +by Vince Johnson + +I was intrigued after reading the "Aquarium Memo" because it, +in essence, raised more questions than it answered--especially +on the eschatology issue. I drafted a response and uploaded it to +Don Allen, (moderator for the FIDO UFO conference) requesting +that he forward it to Dan Smith and Rosemary Ellen Guiley. +Several days later, I received a call from Mr. Smith. I must +confess that, being at work, I was unprepared for the interview +that followed. + +Surprisingly, he confirmed the existence of the "Aviary," the +shadowy UFO intelligence group that includes the infamous +"Falcon" and "Condor." Smith also indicated that Richard Doty +was still an active member of the "Aviary," although his primary +contact with this group is "Pelican." Pelican's principle duty is to +track millennial/eschatological communities, "entering a twilight +zone where psychic techniques are being generated by humans +and other entities." + +Mr. Smith recounted the October 28, 1992, event in South +Korea where religious devotees of a particular sect awaited the +"end of the world." Over 20,000 members of the South Korean +armed forces deserted during this event and U.S. Army +psychiatrists were sent to deprogram and debrief them. + +According to Mr. Smith, UFOs are primarily a psychological/ +metaphysical phenomenon which are both "preparing us and +pressuring us to develop our own psi abilities." Not that UFOs +are a single type of entity, Smith asserts that there are "powers +and principalities" at work. + +Furthermore, a radical program of psychic research and +development is currently underway near Los Alamos, New +Mexico. This group's development of psychokinesis, +parapsychology, and psychotronics (a term used to denote +psychic warfare techniques) represents a danger of +eschatological proportions. "These techniques have been +available, but controlled, throughout history. Now, other entities +are forcing the issue," says Smith. + +The "Aquarium," as outlined by Smith and Guiley, is devoted to +assisting the "Aviary" in establishing a network of "spiritually +advanced" individuals to lessen the impact of the eschaton +event. + +During the course of our conversation, Mr. Smith seemed +unable to provide proof for his claims. He did report that his +government sources "hinted at" an eschatological emergency. +To prove the evil intent of the entities involved, he referred to +reports of human mutilations in the Amazon which have been +officially attributed to drug dealers, but according to his sources, +were committed by these evil entities. + +In closing, I passed along Armen Victorian's question concerning +Rosemary Guiley's association with Vance Tiede and "RADM" +(Rear Admiral?) Harold Bliss and their "involvement in the UFO +affairs." Smith responded that it was Vance Tiede who originally +suggested to Ms. Guiley that she get involved in circles research +and facilitated her contacts in this field. + +So what does it all mean? Mr. Smith revealed that the +eschatological issues raised related directly to the Biblical +prophecies in the book of Revelations. On the surface it could +be that we're experiencing millennial fever at the close of the +20th century. Then again, there are many reports of secret +military psi programs such as reported in Howard Blum's OUT +THERE and the accounts of Ed Dames's commercial remote +viewing enterprise, Psi-Tech. + +Mr. Dames' credibility as a psychic may be somewhat +diminished, however. He is quoted in the Operation Right-To-Know +Forum (newsletter) as stating that definitive proof of the existence of + UFOs would be announced by "top scientists" by the end of April. +Well, it's May now... + +It is interesting to note the growing visibility of the "millennialist +fringe" of ufology. In addition to the "demons & angels as +ufonauts" theories, BVM (Blessed Virgin Mary) sightings are also +being reported frequently, often with locutions paralleling the +eschatological themes outlined by Mr. Smith. + +It's hard for me to seriously consider these eschatological +predictions. For one thing, the calendar ticking away until the +year 2000 is an arbitrary yardstick for the measurement of time, +i.e., why not use the Mayan calendar, or the Chinese? Also, the +eschaton, as outlined by its proponents, is particular to +fundamentalist Christian theology (Protestant and Catholic), and +is not a universal belief shared by Buddhists, Shintos, Hindus, +etc. + +Interestingly, the disciples of Jesus assumed the apocalypse +described in biblical prophesy would occur in their own lifetimes. +Historically, the same "apocaphilia" occurred in Europe during +the close of the year 999, with social chaos erupting as the +masses prepared for "the end of the world." + +Could this be a coordinated manipulation by right-wing and +fundamentalist Christian groups to create a climate favorable to +the establishment of an authoritarian theocratic government? +Anyone doubting the possibility of well-financed covert activities +attempting to influence the fringes of ufology should read +Jacques Vallee's REVELATIONS. + +I believe there are three possible explanations for the growing +widespread belief in an "eschatological emergency:" +1) Mass hysteria; +2) The end of the world is near, with portents communicated by +metaphysical / spiritual entities; +3) A coordinated disinformation effort is being attempted to +create a widely held belief in an imminent eschaton in order to +achieve some political objective, such as the putting forth of a +theocratic "political messiah" to forestall or alleviate the +eschaton. + +Mr. Smith has been invited to write an article for HUFON REPORT +that will articulate, in detail, his views and why he holds them. + +End of File +--- + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3082.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3082.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..03af7585 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3082.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,175 @@ +SUBJECT: REQUEST FOR ABDUCTION REPORTS AND ACCOUNTS FILE: UFO3082 + + + + + + + Filename: Ar.Req + Type : Request for Information + Author : Budd Hopkins/David Jacobs + Date : 07/92 + Desc : Request for Abduction reports and accounts + + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) - MUFONET-BBS Network + -------------------------------------------------- + + PROJECT: ABDUCTION REPORT + --------------------------- + + PURPOSE: The obtaining and compilation of Abduction Cases. + ------- + + PERSONS/ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED: + ------------------------------ + + Budd Hopkins, Dr. David M. Jacobs, Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). + + This is a message with an extraordinary request for you. + + In 1964 the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena + (NICAP) issued a compendium of information about UFOs called "THE UFO + EVIDENCE". This enormously influential and useful volume drew together + the various aspects of sightings and witnesses into a systematic and + powerful testament to the reality of UFOs. It was used to educate + congressmen and the public alike and it helped change the direction of + UFO research. + + Now we have the opportunity to proceed with a project that promises + to be even more powerful and influential. Budd Hopkins and Dr. David + Jacobs are project directors, in participation with The Mutual UFO + Network (MUFON), of a major effort to bring together the complexity and + variety of the abduction phenomenon. The project calls for a + compilation of abduction cases from around the country investigated by + as many UFO and abduction researchers as possible. It is hoped that + new patterns will be identified, new questions can be asked, and new + directions for research can be developed. A compendium of this type + can provide authoritative evidence of the reality of the phenomenon for + UFO researchers, scientists, members of the therapeutic community, and + skeptics. + + Obviously this type of endeavor depends on the cooperation of the + entire UFO research community. Without your help it cannot be done. + The time has come now to work together in a cooperative effort for the + good of UFO research. It is only together that we can make substantial + headway into deciphering the mysteries of this most important + phenomenon. Both Budd Hopkins and Dr. David Jacobs will be contributing + their cases and I hope that you will want to make your own contribution + so that you can be part of this historic undertaking. + + Additionally, those of you who have had an abduction experience, or + are aware of any person or persons who have had an abduction + experience, are requested to also become involved in this endeavor. + Any information you deem to remain confidential will remain so, as you + will be dealing with persons of very high professionalism and + credibility. + + Here is a short biography of the principles involved with this + project: + + Budd Hopkins - Began researching abduction cases in 1975, is the author + of a number of books, research papers and articles, among which are + "Missing Time", "Intruders", and his newest book "A Crack In The + Universe - The Psychological Impact of UFO Encounters". Involved with + encounter groups. He is also on the staff of The Mutual UFO Network + (MUFON) + + Dr. David M. Jacobs - holder of a B.A., M.A., and a Ph.D., author of a + number of books, research papers and articles, including the book "The + UFO Controversy in America". He's also a contributer to the Academic + American Encyclopedia. He is a Consultant with The Mutual UFO Network + (MUFON). + + The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) - A scientific organization, in + existence for over 22 years, involved in the UFO phenomenon. It is a + world-wide organization, and has a staff and consultants from many + areas of scientic pursuit and knowledge. + + ------------------------------------------------------------- + + [Note: Signatures of Budd Hopkins and Dr. David Jacobs appear on the + original document to follow.] + + SUBMITTING ABDUCTION REPORTS: + ----------------------------- + + The following information is broken down into two sections: + + 1. Researchers/Investigators who have been involved in the research of + abduction cases. + + 2. Individuals who have had an abduction experience, or are aware of + someone who has. + + A. Researchers/Investigators - The cases should be as complete as + possible. Short fragments are acceptable, but would prefer + comprehensive cases. "Multiple" cases, in which abductees see + others abducted, nonabductees see others abducted, or two or more + people are abducted at once, are important for inclusion. + + Documentation should accompany reports. Names (or pseudonyms) along + with the age, sex, and pertinent information about the abductee, + e.g., physical infirmities, ethnic background, etc, should be sent. + Include the time, place, and date of the abduction. All names and + addresses will be confidential. It is also important to send + supporting material like how the abductee first suspected that + he/she was involved with the abduction phenomenon, where the + abductee went for investigation, and so on. + + If possible, please send a transcript of the hypnotic regression, + and/or non-hypnotically recalled interview. If it is not possible + to provide a transcript, copies of audio and video tapes will be + accepted. If a taped account is used, transcripts will be made by + us and given to the investigator at the project's conclusion. + + Please include your name, address, and phone number along with + information about your years of investigative experience and any + other biographical data that you deem appropriate. If your cases + are used, you will be asked to sign a release allowing us to publish + them. + + Either Budd Hopkins or Dr. David Jacobs will be happy to provide + their professional opinion about the methodology employed in your + case, if you so desire. + + Please send your cases either to: + + Budd Hopkins David Jacobs + 246 W. 16th Street - or - 607 E. Gravers Lane + New York, NY 10011 Wyndmoor, PA 19118 + + We are looking forward to working with you on this most important + project. + + + Budd Hopkins David M. Jacobs + ---------------- ------------------- + (original signatures appear on the original document) + + ------------------------------------------------------------ + + B. Individuals - If you have had an abduction, or are aware of someone + who has been abducted, please follow the guidelines listed above as + they might pertain to your case, or contact a MUFONET-BBS Network + electronic bulletin board. Each MUFONET-BBS board can accept + sighting and abduction reports on-line through the use of a report + program. Or contact me at the following: + + MUFONET-BBS Network 88:/0 address: + Data Number: 901-785-4943 4769 Lake Ridge Drive + Memphis, TN 38109 + + ------------------------------------------------------------ + + Sincerely, John Komar + State Director/Tennessee - MUFON + Administrator - MUFONET-BBS Network + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3083.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3083.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..39380ef6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3083.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +SUBJECT: REFERENCE REPORT ON MJ-12 FILE: UFO3083 + + + + + +NATIONAL ARCHIVES Washington, DC 20408 + + +Date: July 22, 1987 +Reply to +attn of: Military Reference Branch + +Subject: Reference Report on MJ-12 + +To: The Record + + The National Archives has received many requests for + documentation and information about "Project MJ-12". Many of + the inquiries concern a memorandum from Robert Cutler to + General Nathan Twining, dated July 14, 1954. This particular + document poses problems for the following reasons: + + 1. The document was located in Record Group 341, entry + 267. The series is filed by a Top Secret register number. This + document does not bear such a number. + 2. The document is in the folder T4-1846. There are no + other documents in the folder regarding "NSC/MJ-12". + 3. The Military Reference Branch (Edward Reese) has + conducted a search in the records of the Secretary of Defense, + the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Headquarters US Air Force, and in + other related files. No further information has been found on + this subject. + 4. Inquiries to the US Air Force, the Joint Chiefs of + Staff, and the National Security Council failed to produce + further information. + 5. The Acting Director of the Freedom of Information + Office of the National Security Council informed us that "Top + Secret Restricted Information" is a marking which did not come + into use at the National Security Council until the Nixon + Administration. The Eisenhower Presidental Library also + confirms that this particular marking was not used during the + Eisenhower Administration. + 6. The document in question does not bear an official + government letterhead or watermark. The NARA conservation + specialist (Mary Ritzenthaler) examined the paper and + determined it was a ribbon copy prepared on "dictation + onionskin". The Eisenhower Library has examined its collection + of the Cutler papers. All documents created by Mr. Cutler while + he served on the NSC staff have an eagle watermark in the + onionskin carbon paper. Most documents sent out by the NSC were + prepared on White House letterhead paper. For the brief period + when Mr. Cutler left the NSC, his carbon copies were prepared + on "prestige onionskin". + 7. The Judicial, Fiscal, and Social Branch searched the + Official Meeting Minute Files of the National Security Council + and found no record of a NSC meeting on July 16, 1954. A search + of all NSC Meeting Minutes fro July 1954 found no mention of MJ- + 12 nor Majestic. + 8. The Judicial, Fiscal and Social Branch (Mary Ronan) + searched the indicies [sic] of the NSC records and found no + listing for: MJ-12, Majestic, unidentified flying objects, UFO, + flying saucers, or flying discs. + 9. The Judicial, Fiscal, and Social Branch (Mary Ronan) + found a memo in a folder titled "Special Meeting July 16, 1954" + which indicated that NSC members would be called to a civil + defense exercise on July 16, 1954. + 10. The Eisenhower Library states, in a letter to NNMR, + dated July 16, 1987: + "President Eisenhower's Appointment Books contain no entry + for a special meeting on July 16, 1954 which might have + included a briefing on MJ-12. Even when the President had `off + the record' meetings, the Appointment Books contain entries + indicating the time of the meeting and the participants.... + The Declassification Office of the National Security + Council has informed us that it has no record of any + declassification action having been taken on this memorandum or + any other documents on this alleged project.... + Robert Cutler, at the direction of President Eisenhower, + was visiting overseas military installations on the day he + supposedly issued this memorandum -- July 14, 1954. The + Administration Series in Eisenhower's Papers as President + contains Cutler's memorandum and report to the President upon + his return from the trip. The memorandum is dated July 20, 1954 + and refers to Cutler's visits to installations in Europe and + North Africa between July 3 and 15. Also, within the NSC Staff + Papers is a memorandum dated July 3, 1954, from Cutler to his + two subordinates, James S. Lay and J. Patrick Coyne, explaining + how they should handle NSC administrative matters during his + absence; one would assume that if the memorandum, to Twining + were genuine, Lay or Coyne would have signed it." + + + + JO ANNE WILLIAMSON + Chief, Military Reference Branch + Military Archives Division + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3084.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3084.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7a07a3d6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3084.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO SOURCES - GOVERNMENT ARCHIVES DIVISION FILE: UFO3084 + + + + + + +====================================================================== + + FILE ORIGINATES FROM: <> + UPLOADED BY: Tom Mickus + DATE OF UPLOAD: JAN/03/1990 + +====================================================================== +====================================================================== + + ARCHIVES.LET [ **] UFO Source Info - Canadian Govt Archives + +====================================================================== +====================================================================== + + NOTE: The Micro-film listed below, can be borrowed (and in some cases + purchased) from the National Archives of Canada. Those wishing + to borrow micro-film, both in Canada and the U.S., can usually + do so through "Inter-Library Loan", available through most + major libraries with microfilm facilities. The address for the + National Archives of Canada is: Historical Resources Branch, + 395 Wellington St., Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0N3. + +======================================================================= +======================================================================= + + + UFO SOURCES - GOVERNMENT ARCHIVES DIVISION + + + Intelligence Sightings of Unknown Objects, 1947-1964 + (RG 24, vol. 17984, file S-940-5, pts. 1-2; on reel T-3291) + AVAILABLE FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES. CAN BE PURCHASED OR + BORROWED. + + Intelligence Sightings of Unknown Objects, 1950-1964 + (RG 24, vol. 17988, file C-940-105, pts. 1-2; on reel T-3291) + AVAILABLE FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES. 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BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3085.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3085.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..fd0dc12a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3085.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,145 @@ +SUBJECT: TOURISTS PAY $99 EACH, HOPING FOR CLOSE ENCOUNTER IN NEVADA DESERT + +FILE: UFO3085 + + + + + The Following taken from THE ARIZONA DAILY STAR in Tucson, AZ on +4-25-93. This may be "old news" to most of you, but I will provide +it for those interested... + + AREA 51: + TOURISTS PAY $99 EACH, HOPING FOR CLOSE ENCOUNTER IN NEVADA DESERT + By Carol Masciola + Orange County Register + + It is twilight and Sean David Morton is driving 90 mph through the +Nevada +desert, headed for a dimension where unearthly flashes appear in the sky and +the lone local bar serves alien-burgers and a cocktail called the Beam Me Up, +Scotty. + He is hurtling toward a sector where he says extraterrestrials prowl the +Earth, surgically mutilating cows, conspiring with the U.S. military and +watching late-night TV. + He is entering the terrifying Area 51. + The Establishment says Area 51 is a testing site for secret airplanes +near Nellis Air Force Base. But Morton insists that it's a U.S.-alien +cooperative where flying saucers are tested and grotesque genetic experiments +take place. + "NASA is a fake. The real stuff is out here," he says. + + **ALIENS' ORIGINS** + + In the back of his rented van are seven wide-eyed passengers, a few of +them alarmed by the warp speed at which Morton is driving. Each has paid $99 +to see the flying saucers that Morton says spin through the desert at night. + The fee also entitles them to an earful of the self-proclaimed prophet's +arcane tidbits about space travel and government cover-ups, which he spews +forth with a lunar gleam in his eye and a touch of sweat beneath his fedora. + Casually - in a tone you'd use to explain that your Aunt Mavis is from +Wisconsin - he explains that Area 51's aliens are probably from Krondac, a +planet 800 light-years away. + "They're actually bluish-gray and a little bigger than most people +think. +They're 3 to 4 feet tall." + Morton admits he's never actually seen any aliens in the flesh, but +"sources" tell him they're living at Area 51 - those little men with the +smooth heads and the wraparound eyes. + + **TV EXPERIENCE** + + His fellow travelers are three students of the paranormal from Mexico +City, one guy with a video camera who sells material to the Fox Network +series +"Sightings," one inscrutable Brazilian, and a hairdresser from West +Hollywood, +Calif. + Morton, 34, makes his living as a psychic, a healer, a predictor of +earthquakes and a screen-writer. He just finished a book of prophecy for +the next 30 years. He also worked on TV shows about Area 51 for the NBC +series +"Unsolved Mysteries" and for Geraldo Rivera's "Now It Can Be Told." + "Hidden here is the technology to end all wars, to end hunger, to +provide +an endless supply of energy," he said. "I'm outraged that they're not +showing +it to the rest of the world." + Morton says he was raised in a fundamentalist Christian family "of the +most rabid variety" but became a New Age thinker after a spiritual quest +that took him from Texas to Tibet and various points in between. + + **LIGHTS IN THE SKY** + + "My mother thinks I'm nuts. She thinks I'm the Antichrist," he said. +"She has a publishing company, and she won't even publish my book." + Miles later, the UFO van pulls into Ash Springs, Nev., population 11, +for +supplies. Store owner Goodie Goodman immediately recognizes Morton. He bags +groceries and muses "I am not a believer, because I have not seen anything; +but I know people who have," he says. + "You have to understand where we are in relation to Area 51." + More and more desert. More and more darkness. One of the Mexicans nods +off. Suddenly, Morton swings the van off the road, kills the headlights and +leaps onto the road, screaming, "Look, look, look! Over there, over there! +What the hell's that? Oh! It's gone!" The fellow travelers run down the berm +behind him. There are lights all over the sky. Some look like helicopters, +some like flares, some like F-16s. + Two huge planes, possibly B-1's, swoop close overhead in the dark, +barely making a sound. And something else seems to hopscotch across the sky, +leaving an orange flash at each stop. + + **TESTING GROUND** + + "You just saw tiny space jumps, " Morton declares. + But skeptics say Morton's the one doing the jumping - right off the deep +end. + "For nearly 25 years, my specialty has been the field of UFOs, as a +hobby," said Philip J. Klass, a senior editor at Aviation Week & Space +Technology for 34 years and a specialist in aviation electronics. "In all +that +time, I've yet to find a 'UFO case' to suggest we have any alien spacecraft +in our skies. If there were any credible evidence, it would not be a mystery +anymore. I think there's no possibility of that being true." + Area 51 is used for testing new covert airplanes, Klass said, and for +staging war games and testing electronic jamming equipment. + He said the "skipping" orange lights are most likely airplanes testing +decoy flares that fool heat-seeking ground missiles. + Barry Karr, executive director of Skeptical Inquirer magazine, said con +artists are promoting Area 51 to make easy money by giving tours and +lectures. + + **INCENTIVE TO DECEIVE** + + "There are about four or five guys running around the country, and they +all have a different shtick about Area 51," Karr said. + Klass suggested that pranksters might be enhancing the military's aerial +show with their own bogus UFOs and that local businesses might be +perpetuating +the myth to bring tourists to an otherwise uninviting corner of the desert. + "If I were the owner of a bar or restaurant or filling station in that +desolate area, I would love to have something to attract tourists. If that +meant launching weather balloons outfitted with flares or buying +radio-controlled airplanes and outfitting that with a special light, I would +be very tempted to do something like that." + As midnight neared, the van pulled up at the only bar for 85 miles - the +Little A'le'inn, a converted trailer. The signs outside read, "Earthlings +Welcome" and "Budweiser." + + **GENUINE INTEREST** + + "It's not just kooks and idiots that come out here. These people are +genuinely interested," said proprietor Joe Travis, standing behind the bar. + Within his reach were dozens of liquor bottles; his wife, Pat; a +12-gauge +pump shotgun; and an assortment of.357 Magnums. "We had a man in here last +night from another planet. He didn't tell me, but I knew." + Travis is serious. He insists that humanoid aliens patronize his tavern, +indulging in the Alien Burgers and the Beam Me Up, Scotty (Jim Beam, 7-Up and +a dash of scotch). + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3086.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3086.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..23b082a9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3086.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +SUBJECT: ARIZONA SIGHTING FILE: UFO3086 + + +PART 1 + + + + Sent: 01 Dec 92 12:32:00 + From: Steve Gresser + Topic: Arizona Sighting + +Well, last night it happened - I _FINALLY_ saw something. It is strange +mostly because there have been, apparantly, some sightings in the area. +Beyond that, I would have an extremely difficult time accepting a prosaic +explanation without a recreation of the event. It is, of course, possible. + +Background: I am in Scottsdale, Arizona, which borders (mostly) Phoenix's +eastern side. I live in the northeastern end of Scottsdale. To the north +are mountains, and there are houses obscuring portions of the horizon on all +sides but the west. Several miles west of me is a hospital that has a +helipad, so I regularly see helicopters. I am grateful that my walls are +thick because I am nearly directly on the approach path to Phoenix Sky Harbor +International Airport, and a great number of the aircraft going towards +Scottsdale Municipal Airpark also fly over my house, or nearly so. Until +construction begins on the other two houses, I also have a mostly +unobstructed view to the south, where I can see aircraft coming in for quite +a long time before they turn to Phoenix. Also, I am a pilot. Suffice to +say, my wife and I are familiar with aircraft lights, helicopter lights, +military aircraft lighting on a general scale, stars, meteors (the sky is +beautiful at night because we are slightly elevated above the smog), and a +variety of other natural phenomenon that are highly visible over the Phoenix +valley area. + +Report (well, it's about time!): Last night, at about 10:17pm MST, I was in +the street in front of my house (E/W double cul-de-sac) w/no cross streets). +I was going to tell my sister-in-law something in her van, so I walked E +towards it, turned towards her (N) and spotted something out of the corner of +my eye (W). I turned west and said, "What's that?", thinking that it was +another aircraft coming in low with its lights towards me, a common sight but +still pretty spectacular. She replied, "It's an airplane," which I beleived +at first, but I still wanted to watch it. Then I realized that the object +was not lighted like any aircraft I have ever seen, and the lights were +flashing without a sequence that I could register (rotating beacons, position +lights, etc. have a pattern to them - usually "flash, flash, flash" or +"flash-flash, flash-flash, flash-flash" - but this had neither) and the +lights were brighter than even the closest aircraft that I had seen - but +VERY sharp. My wife was coming out of the house, and I was moving across the +street to keep the object in view as it moved northward, closer than the +hospital. I kept calling her over to see it but she was in the wrong +position and nearly fell as I moved W down the street to keep in in view. I +kept thinking, "This has got to be an aircraft!" But it never resolved +itself into something my mind could recognize. It was pointed maybe thirty +degrees down in the direction of movement, and it moved more quickly than a +helicopter, and VERY smooth movement, but not as fast as, say, a low-flying +jet. + +When my wife finally got it in to view, she said something that I had seen +but not noticed - "That son-of-a-***** is ROTATING! What is that, Steve?" A +series of colorful expletives followed. As my wife looked at it, it began to +turn northeastwards, as if to go behind the mountains, and she decided to +dash down to the van my sister-in-law was in and chase it. I was about to +lose sight of it, so I ran down too (by this time I was at the intersection +of my street), but we never got sight of it again. + +On first sight, it appeared to be an overly-lighted aircraft, kind of long, +with many lights on it. But the lights looked more light arcing electricity +than lights, and were exceptionally sharp and bright. This looked nothing +like a helicopter with a search light, nor like any other lights I've seen on +an aircraft. My wife and I were both wearing our glasses, and her sister +does not wear glasses. The incident frightened her enough that she was +scared to go home down Pima Road (the major N/S access road near the +hospital). The incident was over by 10:19pm MST. The object appeard almost +to be in three sections because of the lighting and was slowly rotating (if +looking from above the object) in a counter-clockwise motion. I estimated +its altitude to be between 1200 and 1500 feet, but my wife says it was below +1000 feet. The object itself was not clearly visible to me at all. + +So now I join the ranks of all the kooks and looneys who have seen these +things before. All I can say is, all the years of dreaming and imagining +what it would be like do not prepare you for the sense of the object being +out of place that you get when you actually see one. It just looks ... +strange. + +I welcome questions regarding this sighting and would appreciate no +accusations of substance abuse or fabrication. I have had many oportunities +to fabricate UFO stories before, but as someone who is sincerely interested +in the phenomenon, I feel that particular action is equatable to rape. I no +longer smoke, I almost never drink, I do not take drugs (but I inhale +regularly ), and my prescription on my glasses is "plano" for a mild +astigmatism (I'm not sure what "plano" is, but I bet SOMEONE knows). + +I thank you greatly for your time reading this. I know it is a long story. + +Thank you again, + +Steve + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3087.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3087.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5ee0af3e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3087.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +SUBJECT: ARIZONA SIGHTING FILE: UFO3087 + + + +PART 2 + + + +Msg #: 458 Area: FidoUFO Sent: 05 Dec 92 01:00:00 + From: Rick Snydersmith + To: Steve Gresser +Topic: ARIZONA SIGHTING + + On 12-01-92 STEVE GRESSER wrote to ALL... + + SG> Background: I am in Scottsdale, Arizona, which borders (mostly) + SG> Phoenix's eastern side. I live in the northeastern end of Scottsdale. +To + SG> the north are mountains, + +First Question, what is the distance to mountains. + + SG> Also, I am a pilot. Suffice to say, my wife and I are familiar with + SG> aircraft lights, helicopter lights, military aircraft lighting on a + SG> general scale, stars, meteors elevated and a variety of other natural + SG> phenomenon that are highly visible over the Phoenix valley area + +In short, an informed, experienced observer in a familiar locale. Good. + + SG> Report (well, it's about time!): Last night, at about 10:17pm MST, I + SG> was in the street in front of my house (E/W double cul-de-sac) w/no + SG> cross streets). I was going to tell my sister-in-law something in her + SG> van, so I walked E towards it, turned towards her (N) and spotted + SG> something out of the corner of my eye (W). + +Weather report please? Cloud density, ceiling, visibility, storms in area, +temperature, etc. Ambient noise levels estimates, street lighting in area, +in the direction of the sighting, Major highways in the direction of the +sighting. + + SG> still wanted to watch it. Then I realized that the object was not + SG> lighted like any aircraft I have ever seen, and the lights were flashing + + SG> without a sequence that I could register (rotating beacons, position + SG> lights, etc. have a pattern to them - usually "flash, flash, flash" or + SG> "flash-flash, flash-flash, flash-flash" - but this had neither) and the + SG> lights were brighter than even the closest aircraft that I had seen - + SG> but VERY sharp. + +By not lighted like any aircraft, what do you mean, exactly? +Please estimate the number of lights visible? Were they points or diffused? +What configuration were the lights in, if any, was noticeable. +Was the main body lit, or were there only flashing beacons? +Did the intensity vary or were they steady state? +could you see light beams radiating from the object? As in landing lights +or were they more light marker beacons? +Compare the brightness to a full moon, the sun, etc. +Did you notice shadows being cast? +If so in what color were they (grey to black), +what direction and what was the approximate length of the shadow. + + SG> It was pointed maybe thirty degrees down in the direction of movement, + SG> and it moved more quickly than a helicopter, and VERY smooth movement, + SG> but not as fast as, say, a low-flying jet. + +What was the over all shape? +By pointed do you mean the end was pointed or sloped in that direction or +that +the craft was slanted at an angle toward the direction of the flight path? +Could you see and protrusions from the body? +What is your estimate of size? +What is your estimate of the distance at closest approach? at first sight? +at last sight? +Was the speed closer to the speed of a helicopter or the low-flying jet? +By low flying I assume you mean one in a landing approach, is this true? + +You state smooth, define to best of ability what made it seem smooth. + + SG> seen but not noticed - "That son-of-a-***** is ROTATING! + +What gave you the impression of rotation? + + SG> As my wife looked at it, it began to turn northeastwards. + +What was the turn rate in degrees per second? +What would be the estimate of distance at the time of the turn? + + SG> and she decided to dash down to the van my sister-in-law was in and + SG> chase it. I was about to lose sight of it, so I ran down too + +Distance to house, at this time +How long after losing sight until you were again position to see the last +position the object was seem and till you had a clear view of the direction +of travel? +Did you or your wife notice any animal activity of an unusual nature +"all neighborhood Dogs barking, etc" + + SG> On first sight, it appeared to be an overly-lighted aircraft, kind of + SG> long, with many lights on it. But the lights looked more light arcing + SG> electricity than lights, and were exceptionally sharp and bright. + +By arcing, do you mean the color was like and arc welder, very white? +Did it flicker or seem to jump? What do you mean by sharp? +did the light create pain in your eyes, If so how long had you been +outside away from normal interior lighting? + + SG> My wife and I were both wearing our glasses. + +Did you notice any diffraction patterns on you glasses, multiple images, etc. + + + SG> The incident was over by 10:19pm MST. The object appeared to be in + SG> three sections because of the lighting and was slowly rotating in a + SG> counter-clockwise motion. + +Three sections in what configuration, top, middle, bottom or front, middle +rear? where the sections pointed, rounded, square at the edges, at the +joining edges, at the ends? +2 minutes of observation to go what approximate distance. + + SG> I estimated its altitude to be between 1200 and 1500 feet, but my wife + + SG> says it was below 1000 feet. The object itself was not clearly visible + SG> to me at all. + +Why the difference if altitude estimate? +What basis is there for each estimate. +By not clearly visible, what exactly do you mean? were the edges fuzzy or + +unfocused in appearance? Was the light enough to blind you? Was the object +clearly visible to your wife or sister-in-law? + +Lastly after this long question period, did anything else come to mind +which was not mention in your first post by answering these questions? +IF so, what. + +Rick + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3088.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3088.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..23ba25c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3088.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +SUBJECT: ARIZONA SIGHTING FILE: UFO3088 + + +PART 3 + + + +Msg #: 462 Area: FidoUFO Sent: 05 Dec 92 15:32:00 + From: Steve Gresser + To: Bob Dunn +Topic: Arizona Sighting + + > SG>Well, last night it happened - I _FINALLY_ saw something. It is +strange + + > Great report, Steve! You lucky dog, all I ever get to see are + > meteorites. I've got a few questions for you: + + > So what do you think it was? + +I do not know. It was very difficult to see any real form to the object - +all I recall seeing was the lighting. It is difficult to describe, but I can +say that while it would be possible to recreate the event on a limited scale, +say on a computer or with some special video machine (maybe a Toaster?), what +I've seen so far on computers doesn't really come close, and this thing was +real and in the sky (not on video)! + + > Could you make out an outline? + +How so? What do you mean, make an outline of what I saw? Probably, but it +would just sort of be where I saw lights. + + > Have you checked with the airport on flights yet? + +There were probably 12 flights in the area at the time. The only thing I +could really check at an airport with would be whether or not anyone else saw +this thing. I do know that it didn't go to Scottsdale Muni, and that there +was a jet overhead heading for Phoenix when I first saw it, and that the +sound of the jet faded as it got further away, and I didn't hear anything +else (like sounds from this thing), but it's tough to say exactly how close +it was. + + > Did it appear to be intelligently controlled? + +There was no apparant significant winds that would have carried an object or +balloon in so straight a line and at such a speed. + + > Did it make any erratic movements? + +No, the movement was, in fact, exceptionally smooth, straight, and the turn +that it did make was (as far as I saw it) very clean and smooth. + + > Any estimates on size or distance? + +Yeah, over the lake about half a mile away and maybe ... well, bigger than a +helicopter, bigger than the AirEvac chopper by maybe twice or three times. + + > What exactly was it that first drew your attention to this object and + > at what point did you first realize that this may have been something + > other than a conventional aircraft? + +The brightness, clarity, and whiteness of the lights (first seen out of the +corner of my eyes, which makes it look even brighter at night as that makes +you use the rods, or B/W light-detecting nerves, of your eye). When I +realized the color, number, and way in which the lights flashed, and when my +wife pointed out that it was slowly rotating, I finally realized that it was +not a normal aircraft. + + > Has anyone else come forward to report this? + +I have not heard reports on this specific object. There have apparantly been +a few reports of strange craft over the valley in the past few weeks. + + > Do I ask enough questions? + +Don't think me rude, but ... probably not. These things have to be looked at +very, very closely and with a subjective, if not jaundiced, eye. I don't +know what I saw. If I saw it again and someone said, "Oh, that, it's just a +...", I'd be willing to accept it. At this point, I do not believe that it +was a normal, prosaic aircraft. I've been staring at them for years and have +yet to not at first get a little hope in the heart, followed by a, "Oh, +shucks, well, just another jet" or "Oh, well, that's a helicopter", etc. +This thing, I kept looking and looking and it never resolved itself into a +normal aircraft I could recognize or into ANYTHING I could recognize. Even +the bolide I saw, at first I thought it was an aircraft blowing up, then I +realized it was a meteor (bolide, whatever). Never did it cross my mind that +it was an alien spaceship or whatever, because it wasn't. I'm still confused +about this thing - I just do not know what it was. + +Thank you for your interest, + +Steve + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3089.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3089.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..11fe7e61 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3089.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,472 @@ +SUBJECT: ARIZONA SIGHTING FILE: UFO3089 + + +PART 4 + + + +Msg #: 504 Area: FidoUFO Sent: 06 Dec 92 23:32:00 + From: Bob Dunn + To: Steve Gresser +Topic: Arizona Sighting + +SG>> Could you make out an outline? + + SG>How so? What do you mean, make an outline of what I saw? Probably, but + SG>it + SG>would just sort of be where I saw lights. + + Yes, an outline of whatever was behind the lights. Come to think of + it, have you ever wondered why a spacecraft (if that's what these + things are) would even need lights in the first place? Is it so they + can see us, or so we can see them? + + SG>There was no apparant significant winds that would have carried an object + SG>or balloon in so straight a line and at such a speed. + + What did you estimate the speed to be? + + SG>The brightness, clarity, and whiteness of the lights (first seen out of + SG>the + SG>corner of my eyes, which makes it look even brighter at night as that +makes + SG>you use the rods, or B/W light-detecting nerves, of your eye). When I +reali + SG>the color, number, and way in which the lights flashed, and when my wife + SG>pointed + SG>out that it was slowly rotating, I finally realized that it was not a +normal + SG>aircraft. + + What was rotating, the object itself or just the lights? Can you + describe the lights a little more, the number, color, configuration, + pattern of illumination, brightness level, etc? + + SG>I have not heard reports on this specific object. There have apparantly + SG>been + SG>a few reports of strange craft over the valley in the past few weeks. + + Did they sound similar to what you saw? + + SG>it was an alien spaceship or whatever, because it wasn't. I'm still +confuse + SG>about this thing - I just do not know what it was. + + Sounds like a definate UFO then. Next time get some pictures! +Msg #: 522 Area: FidoUFO Sent: 06 Dec 92 21:04:00 + From: Steve Gresser + To: Rick Snydersmith +Topic: ARIZONA SIGHTING + + > On 12-01-92 STEVE GRESSER wrote to ALL... + + > SG> Background: I am in Scottsdale, Arizona, which borders (mostly) + > SG> Phoenix's eastern side. I live in the northeastern end of +Scottsdale. + > SG> the north are mountains, + + > First Question, what is the distance to mountains. + +'Couple of miles, maybe four and a half (you of course realize that I'm +spelling VERY carefully!). I'm actually in the foothills of them, but I'm +talking only of the closest hills, which are probably 1800 feet above +surrounding terrian. + + > SG> Also, I am a pilot. Suffice to say, my wife and I are familiar with + + > In short, an informed, experienced observer in a familiar locale. Good. + +Danke. + + > SG> Report (well, it's about time!): Last night, at about 10:17pm MST, I + + > Weather report please? Cloud density, ceiling, visibility, storms in area, + > temperature, etc. Ambient noise levels estimates, street lighting in area, + > in the direction of the sighting, Major highways in the direction of the + > sighting. + +Weather - CAVU, winds calm to light and variable, cold (maybe 65, that's cold +for here). Ambient noise levels started high (there was an aircraft on +approach to PHX overhead when it started) and ended very low - it's a quiet +neighborhood. The nearest major street (not considered a highway) is a +six-laner, divided, called Shea Boulevard. This is usually the eastern-most +end extreme of its business, as we have a Mayo Clinic nearby. Next major +street is at the hospital, a two (mostly) laner, heavily traveled, called +Pima Road. Lighting in the area is greater towards the West, but not by +much. Just a couple of dim street lamps on my street - it's pretty dark. +This city is very horizontal, not very vertical. Makes for a nice night +approach in a commercial airliner. + + > SG> still wanted to watch it. Then I realized that the object was not + + > SG> lights were brighter than even the closest aircraft that I had seen - + > SG> but VERY sharp. + + > By not lighted like any aircraft, what do you mean, exactly? + > Please estimate the number of lights visible? Were they points or + > diffused? + +There were probably between 3 and a dozen lights, in what appeared to be +three seperate "sections" (the lights sort of stayed near a central +location). They were much whiter than aircraft lights that I see, and they +moved about - it's hard to describe, but they looked like oil in water, the +way they moved. Sort of globular. Very defined, very sharp. + + > What configuration were the lights in, if any, was noticeable. + > Was the main body lit, or were there only flashing beacons? + > Did the intensity vary or were they steady state? + > could you see light beams radiating from the object? As in landing + > lights or were they more light marker beacons? + > Compare the brightness to a full moon, the sun, etc. + > Did you notice shadows being cast? + > If so in what color were they (grey to black), + > what direction and what was the approximate length of the shadow. + +Three sections, each main light sort of spitting out other lights of varying +intensities and flashing and bouncing. The main body was unlit - I saw no +physical configuration to this object. The light intensity and clarity did +not vary, but the size did. There did not appear to be any "beams" of light +(I believe I'm understanding the question) coming down or radiating out. +They were brighter than a full moon, but not as bright as, say, the sun. +They were brighter than the head-on landing lights of a Boeing 727 at +moderate to short range (10-20 miles) while on approach, and much sharper +(and much whiter, again). I did not see any shadows being cast. + + > SG> It was pointed maybe thirty degrees down in the direction of +movement, + > SG> and it moved more quickly than a helicopter, and VERY smooth +movement, + > SG> but not as fast as, say, a low-flying jet. + + > What was the over all shape? + +A straight line, as far as I could tell. I only saw lights. + + > By pointed do you mean the end was pointed or sloped in that direction + > or that the craft was slanted at an angle toward the direction of the +flight + > path? + +The right most lights were in a position relative to the left most lights +such that a straight line through them (which the lights formed) would have +intersected the relative horizon at an angle approaching 30 degrees. The +direction of flight was from the left to the right. I would not say that the +craft was pointed or rounded. I did not see the craft, only the lights. + + > Could you see and protrusions from the body? + +No. + + > What is your estimate of size? + +About 2.5 to 3 AirEvac helicopters long. I'm estimating. It was difficult +to tell how far away it was without knowing how big it was, nor to see how +big it was without knowing how far away it was. Do you see my paradox? If +my estimate of about half a mile away is nearly correct, then this estimate +is also correct. + + > What is your estimate of the distance at closest approach? at first + > sight? + > at last sight? + +At first sight. If I extrapolated a straight flight path before my sighting +and continuing on until I noticed its turn, then it was at its closest when I +first saw it. + + > Was the speed closer to the speed of a helicopter or the low-flying jet? + +Its speed was closer to a slowly flying low-flying jet (a lear-jet on +approach) or a very fast moving helicopter. + + > By low flying I assume you mean one in a landing approach, is this true? + +Low flying what? Airplane? I believe so, at this point (see above). + + > You state smooth, define to best of ability what made it seem smooth. + +Lack of any motion of the flight path other than in the direction of its +moving, with exception of the turn that it made. And that turn was done very +smoothly and without apparant rolling motion. The turn seemed part of one +continuous movement. + + > SG> seen but not noticed - "That son-of-a-***** is ROTATING! + + > What gave you the impression of rotation? + +A) My wife said so, and I don't want annoy her when she's pregnant (all +right, that's just a joke), B) The fact that it appeared that while the +lights were continuing to move and flash, they were moving around some +central point. I dunno - I SAW it doing it. + + > SG> As my wife looked at it, it began to turn northeastwards. + + > What was the turn rate in degrees per second? + > What would be the estimate of distance at the time of the turn? + +I don't know the degrees-per-second, as I began to lose sight of it and +didn't see the whole turn (it started to go behind a house so I went to the +other side of the house to keep sight of it). Estimated distance was +probably (please note that I am guessing) 4 miles. + + > SG> and she decided to dash down to the van my sister-in-law was in and + > SG> chase it. I was about to lose sight of it, so I ran down too + + > Distance to house, at this time + +80 feet, possibly - she was in front of the middle of the house, and we have +large lots. + + > How long after losing sight until you were again position to see the last + > position the object was seem and till you had a clear view of the +direction + > of travel? + +A while. The van offered only an obstructed view without much view above. +As the van began moving (with the mainiac, my wife, driving), the wife +screamed at me to check the time on my watch, so I wasn't even TRYING to look +for the thing (like a fool). + + > Did you or your wife notice any animal activity of an unusual nature + > "all neighborhood Dogs barking, etc" + +I did not, nor did my wife nor her sister. But like I said, it's a quiet +neighborhood - I think we would have notice, as we have 5 dogs, the neighbor +who's house I was closest to has two, and the other neighbor has one. + + > SG> On first sight, it appeared to be an overly-lighted aircraft, kind of + > SG> long, with many lights on it. But the lights looked more light +arcing + > SG> electricity than lights, and were exceptionally sharp and bright. + + > By arcing, do you mean the color was like and arc welder, very white? + > Did it flicker or seem to jump? What do you mean by sharp? + > did the light create pain in your eyes, If so how long had you been + > outside away from normal interior lighting? + +I had just walked out from normal interior lighting. My eyes seem to adjust +at a normal rate, relative to other people I have flown with and been around. +By arcing, I'm trying to describe the way that the lights did not appear to +be incandescent bulbs but free electricity, and were not diffused at all - +that's also what I mean by sharp. They did not cause pain in my eyes, and +they did not flicker. + + > SG> My wife and I were both wearing our glasses. + + > Did you notice any diffraction patterns on you glasses, multiple images, + > etc. + +No. We both have lenses with anti-reflective coating, which significantly +reduces and almost eliminates flaring, reflection, and double-imaging. + + > SG> The incident was over by 10:19pm MST. The object appeared to be in + > SG> three sections because of the lighting and was slowly rotating in a + > SG> counter-clockwise motion. + + > Three sections in what configuration, top, middle, bottom or front, middle + > rear? where the sections pointed, rounded, square at the edges, at the + > joining edges, at the ends? + > 2 minutes of observation to go what approximate distance. + +Front, middle, back. Just locations of the lights, really - they seemed to +"cluster" in three little groups, along a line. Again, all I saw was lights. +Two minutes to go from over THERE to over THERE. (About 4 miles, so maybe +200 MPH, but again, this is all estimates of distance and size). + + > SG> I estimated its altitude to be between 1200 and 1500 feet, but my +wife + > SG> says it was below 1000 feet. The object itself was not clearly +visible + > SG> to me at all. + + > Why the difference if altitude estimate? + > What basis is there for each estimate. + +I'm a pilot, she's not. Also, when I think that it was probably closer than +I first estimated (benefit of hindsight), I begin to believe that it was +lower, as my wife said. The basis is relative to housetops, surrounding +terrain (there are LOTS of hills and mountains around, may with lit houses on +them), and guestimation. + + > By not clearly visible, what exactly do you mean? were the edges fuzzy or + > unfocused in appearance? Was the light enough to blind you? Was the + > object clearly visible to your wife or sister-in-law? + +No. I'm sorry, that was not a good way to put it. The lights were clear and +visible, but I could not see the object itself at all, nor an outline of it, +nor anything like that. Even in hindsight, I don't recall if I saw stars +that it would have blocked out or lights on a hill behind it or anything. I +did not notice any of these things. + + > Lastly after this long question period, did anything else come to mind + > which was not mention in your first post by answering these questions? + > IF so, what. + +I do not believe so. But that was a long posting (as is this one). I +appreciate the questioning - it makes me take a closer look at the incident. +I'm still not able to classify this object in my mind. One thing, I don't +know if I mentioned it - I have a lot of experience with UFOs and UFOlogy. +My sighting, while of interest to those who know me well, is not really of +great value to the "cause" as a whole, as I have a predisposition with +regards to the subject. Still, I can tell anyone who hasn't seen one that +all the years of imagining what it would be like doesn't help you prepare for +how much you think, "This thing just doesn't belong where it is - it looks +WRONG." I know that's of no investigative value as it's so subjective, but +then again, so is nearly every aspect of an eyewitness sighting with no film +or + +Msg #: 523 Area: FidoUFO Sent: 06 Dec 92 21:16:00 + From: Steve Gresser + To: Nohl Rosen +Topic: Arizona Sighting + + > Steve I was wondering if you could sing on to T-Minus-Zero's Board and + > tell your story there? We are interested in it on the board and would + > like to have it for reference. The number is (602)784-8646. Thanks. + +Nohl, + +Please feel free to post my story on the T-Minus-Zero BBS, as I do not know +when I might have time to do so. Please, do not edit or embellish my story, +and consider this a one-time, one sight (or network) posting of it. + +Thank you, + +Steve + +--- + * Origin: ParaNet Zeta-Reticuli, 9:1010/100 (1:114/37) + +Msg #: 526 Area: FidoUFO Sent: 07 Dec 92 13:48:00 + From: Steve Gresser + To: Russ Long +Topic: Arizona Sighting + + > SG> I welcome questions regarding this sighting and would appreciate + + > Lucky you! Now that's the kind of encounter I want. I do not wish + > to be abducted. ( Who does? ) Anyway, I have to ask, where + > was your camera? I have one ready to go at all times just in case. + + > Am I the only one who does this? + +No, my camera's batteries were dead, and it was all the way back in the house +(I should have sent my wife back in, I know, but the batteries were dead +anyway). The still camera was also back in the house, with low-speed film in +it. Still, that might have produced SOMETHING useable. + +Steve +Msg #: 559 Area: FidoUFO Sent: 08 Dec 92 1:31:00 + From: Steve Gresser + To: Bob Dunn +Topic: Arizona Sighting + + > SG>> Could you make out an outline? + + > SG>How so? What do you mean, make an outline of what I saw? Probably, +but + > SG>it would just sort of be where I saw lights. + + > Yes, an outline of whatever was behind the lights. Come to think of + > it, have you ever wondered why a spacecraft (if that's what these + > things are) would even need lights in the first place? Is it so they + > can see us, or so we can see them? + +Saw no outline. Only lights. Sorry! My wife likes to say (if I may be +permitted to theorize for a moment) that the light has something to do with +the propulsion method. + + > SG>There was no apparant significant winds that would have carried an + > SG>or balloon in so straight a line and at such a speed. + + > What did you estimate the speed to be? + +Guessing at distance (and thus size), I estimate the speed to have been a +couple of hundred miles per hour (say, near 200 or so - maybe more, maybe +less). + + > SG>the color, number, and way in which the lights flashed, and when my +wife + > SG>pointed + > SG>out that it was slowly rotating, I finally realized that it was not a + > normal + > SG>aircraft. + + > What was rotating, the object itself or just the lights? Can you + > describe the lights a little more, the number, color, configuration, + > pattern of illumination, brightness level, etc? + +I saw (again) no outline of the craft, only the lights. However, it was the +primary positions that the lights were emulating from that gave me the +impression that the object, or at least the lights, was rotating. + + > SG>I have not heard reports on this specific object. There have +apparantly + > SG>a few reports of strange craft over the valley in the past few weeks. + + > Did they sound similar to what you saw? + +I haven't heard the reports. But I've had a suggestion regarding that ... + + > SG>it was an alien spaceship or whatever, because it wasn't. I'm still + > SG>about this thing - I just do not know what it was. + + > Sounds like a definate UFO then. Next time get some pictures! + +Oh, BOY, would I like to do that! Next time, I don't know what I'll do, but +I WILL be looking more closely for other details, especially if it's the same +thing I saw last time. + +Msg #: 571 Area: FidoUFO Sent: 06 Dec 92 23:32:00 + From: Brian Rueger + To: Steve Gresser +Topic: Arizona Sighting + +SG>> Could you make out an outline? + + SG>How so? What do you mean, make an outline of what I saw? Probably, but + SG>it + SG>would just sort of be where I saw lights. + + Yes, an outline of whatever was behind the lights. Come to think of + it, have you ever wondered why a spacecraft (if that's what these + things are) would even need lights in the first place? Is it so they + can see us, or so we can see them? + + SG>There was no apparant significant winds that would have carried an object + SG>or balloon in so straight a line and at such a speed. + + What did you estimate the speed to be? + + SG>The brightness, clarity, and whiteness of the lights (first seen out of + SG>the + SG>corner of my eyes, which makes it look even brighter at night as that +makes + SG>you use the rods, or B/W light-detecting nerves, of your eye). When I +reali + SG>the color, number, and way in which the lights flashed, and when my wife + SG>pointed + SG>out that it was slowly rotating, I finally realized that it was not a +normal + SG>aircraft. + + What was rotating, the object itself or just the lights? Can you + describe the lights a little more, the number, color, configuration, + pattern of illumination, brightness level, etc? + + SG>I have not heard reports on this specific object. There have apparantly + SG>been + SG>a few reports of strange craft over the valley in the past few weeks. + + Did they sound similar to what you saw? + + SG>it was an alien spaceship or whatever, because it wasn't. I'm still +confuse + SG>about this thing - I just do not know what it was. + + Sounds like a definate UFO then. Next time get some pictures! + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Investigation/Report by Tony Dodd +SOURCE : UFO Magazine [Vol. 12, Issue 4 Sep/Oct 1993] +DATE OF INCIDENT : Dec 1992 Onwards +RELEASE DATE : 15th December 1993 +FILENAME : ARTICUFO.ASC +============================================================================= + + CONFRONTATION AT SEA - TONY DODD + +The mysterious Arctic Circle with its vast ice and snow fields has captured +the imagination of the world for many years. One of the few remaining +unpolluted areas, protected from civilisation by inhospitable terrain and sub- +zero temperatures, it has secured many of its secrets from the probing fingers +of mankind for thousands of years. + +Not far away from this frozen world is the island of Iceland, a land sitting +at the joining of the tectonic plates of the Americas and Europe. A volcanic +raft of volcanoes, glaciers and geysers, and one of the few place on Earth +where radio active isotopes are formed naturally in the bowels of this +inferno. This beautiful and rugged land has long been the home of legend. +Its people are proud of their viking ancestry. The fishing fleets have been +the main source of income for hundreds of years, during which time many have +perished when they sought to challenge the might and anger of these dangerous +waters. + +During the Cold War, these waters were protected by America and her allies +against the intrusion of Soviet forces slipping out of their bases in the +Barent Sea and through the vulnerable north flank of our defences. Large +radar stations were located on the coast of Iceland to detect incoming hostile +aircraft or ICB missiles. On many occasions aircraft were scrambled to +intercept radar contacts which turned out to be the phantoms of the sky, or +UFOs. Several fighter pilots who served tours of duty in the area told of +encounters with these strange flying machines and their amazing capabilities. +On odd occasions and confrontations ended with the loss of the aircraft and +the pilot. + +As the years passed, stories of UFOs and alien beings seen in the vicinity of +volcanic activity grew, and reports came from Mexico, Japan and Iceland and +later Puerto Rico where residents reported that the aliens were seen regularly +and appeared to be mining in the mountains. + +On my first trip to Iceland, local people told me they had seen UFOs and small +alien creatures many times in the vicinity of the Snaefellsjokull Glacier. +People regularly left food out in their back gardens when they retired for the +night, "to feed the little grey people who live under the glacier." On many +occasions the food disappeared, but I suspect this could be the work of hungry +animals prowling at night. + +I had followed the reports coming out of Iceland, but was not prepared for the +sequence of events which were to unfold in December, 1992 off the Icelandic +coast. This is a true account of these events as given to me by certain +contacts directly involved in the incident. Their names can not be quoted as +they would be in grave trouble for passing the information. + +During the last few months of 1992, dozens of UFO reports were received from +many parts of northern Scotland. At times the local population were in a near +state of hysteria and national press and television teams were quickly on the +scene to talk to local witnesses and hopefully obtain film footage of these +strange UFOs. Gradually the hysteria fell away and the media having acquired +stories returned to their respective homes. + +20 DECEMBER 1992: +I received a telephone call from an Icelandic naval source who spoke almost +at a whisper. He told me that three UFOs were tracked coming down and +entering the sea off the east coast of Iceland, close to Langeness. + +21 DECEMBER 1992: +Icelandic fishermen fishing on the north east coast of Iceland were confronted +with several very large, fast moving underwater craft which displayed flashing +coloured lights. They appeared to be accompanied by a glowing airborne object +travelling south in a general direction north of Scotland. As the craft moved +swiftly through the water, they came in to contact with nets being trawled by +the fishermen, resulting in much damage. + +The fishermen, who were used to seeing submarines in the area, stated that +this was unlike any submarine they had previously witnessed: "They were too +large, too fast and normal submarines don't display flashing coloured lights," +they said. The fishermen were afraid and informed the Icelandic authorities. +They were soon joined by ships of the National Icelandic Coast Guard who +performed escort duty. + +23 DECEMBER 1992: +An Icelandic Coast Guard vessel and two gun boats were ordered to take up +station off Langeness. This operation was covered by a veil of secrecy and +the crew felt quite uneasy. This are is of course where three UFOs were +originally tracked coming down. Their role at Langeness was observation. At +this time a fleet of NATO (including British) warships arrived on the scene, +in what was described as a 'naval exercise'. (Have you ever heard of a major +military exercise at Christmas?) British newspapers carried a story that +during the exercise the ships had started to track a very large underwater +craft thought to be one of a new generation of Russian 'super' submarines. + +24 DECEMBER 1992: +The crews of two British nuclear Hunter killer-type submarines were recalled +home from Christmas leave and told to report to their respective bases. The +two submarines, HMS Endurance and HMS Warrior were then dispatched to link up +with the surface fleet. At this time Icelandic Coast Guard vessels and gun +boats were ordered to take up station at Alice Fjord on the east coast of +Iceland. + +Further information from contacts stated that four more UFOs had been tracked +descending and entering the sea - in the same quadrant as the first three. +They also confirmed that the entire operation was linked to the tracking of +known underwater alien craft. They also reported that a massive sea search +was underway for a missing surface vessel. The operation was being conducted +with great secrecy. + +30 DECEMBER 1992: +Icelandic radio broadcast a story claiming that many people in the east of the +Island have seen UFOs over the mountains near the coast. + +12 JANUARY 1993: +All Icelandic vessels are held up at Langeness Fjord because of appalling +weather conditions. Terrified residents report strange, small figures around +the Fjord. + +6 FEBRUARY 1993: +The weather improved, and all ships were ordered back to sea. Icelandic ships +take up original positions on observational duty. These observations still +continuing by 24 February. + +25 FEBRUARY 1993: +All ships warned not to move within three nautical miles of the American +destroyer flotilla operating near the Arctic Circle. While outside the +exclusion zone, ships radar picked up sixteen airborne contacts over the +American fleet. The yellow lights were seen to descend and hover over the +warships. There is no possibility that these were helicopters because of the +distance from land. Furthermore, the weather conditions were too severe for +helicopters to fly. + +15 APRIL 1993: +All ships involved in this secret operation were then ordered to search for +the missing American vessel. Only two destroyers remain in the area; both +have had their names removed. The crews are seen to be wearing full battle +dress. + +All civilian ships, including gun boats and coast guard vessels were now +ordered out of this area and excluded from the prohibited zone. (I have no +doubt that this was the case because I had by this time started making +enquiries in America about the US destroyers.) During the operation, the +American ships stayed at sea. The authorities therefore, must have assumed +that information leaks were coming from other ships. + +16 APRIL 1993: +British television and newspapers carried the headline: JOINT AMERICAN AND +RUSSIAN MILITARY EXERCISES ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE. For the first time sine World +War II, joint exercises involving elite American and Russian troops are about +to take place on Russian soil. The area of operation was said to be Siberia. +The arrival point of the American Troops, was Tiksi. (A map indicates that +Tiksi is probably the nearest Russian sea port to the area where all the navel +activity was occurring.) + +21 APRIL 1993: +The crew of and Icelandic Airlines aircraft, travelling from London to Iceland +became aware that two UFOs (two large balls of white light) had joined the +aircraft as it passed over the north coast of Scotland. The brightly glowing +balls of light took up position on either side if the aircraft towards the +tail, and kept this position all the way to Iceland and only flew off as the +aircraft landed at Keflavik Airport. +15 MAY 1993: +I received information that a massive sea search was under way for two missing +Icelandic fishing boats. Search crews were apprehensive and disturbed by the +appearance of white tubular fluorescent type lights which appeared in the +night sky hovering over their vessels. At this time the radio on the ships +refused to function - but worked normally again when the objects moved away. +The search for the missing vessels was eventually called off after many days +at sea. The crews were warned again if the severe consequences of divulging +any information in relation to the events of the previous few weeks. The +authorities were angry that information had leaked out. After this my +information stopped. + + +My colleagues in the United States approached the Office of Naval +Intelligence. They explained they were aware of the incidents off the coast +of Iceland and asked for their comments. The officer, to whom they were +talking, dismissed the story as rubbish, stating that they would have been +aware of such an incident, but promised to make a couple of telephone calls. +Some time later, our contacts received a telephone call from ONI (The Office +of Naval Intelligence). This time the friendly attitude had changed and the +person sounded angry and demanded to know where the information had come from. + +At this time a team of 'remote viewers' in the Unites States were asked to +assist in finding out what had happened to the American warships in the Arctic +Circle. They eventually said that a 'Sea Shadow' stealth ship operated in the +area - towing an instrument barge. The barge, loaded with advanced +instrumentation, had been monitoring underwater alien mining operations. The +remote viewers said that suddenly the ship disappeared. No more information +was forthcoming. + +During a trip to Denmark between 15-21 October, 1993, I was informed that the +news media in Norway had been broadcasting stories telling how NATO warships +had been tracking and chasing underwater alien craft in the area off Iceland +and Norway. Further information regarding this on-going situation is awaited. + + +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +Note: Please take this information as is. None of the information above has + been verified. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +=============================== [THE END] ==================================== + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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A startling disclosure came recently when +Chris Gibson, a British oil engineer and highly trained aircraft-spotter +produced a sketch that captured the shape and size of an unusual aircraft +he saw during daylight hours in August 1989, flying over his drilling rig +in the North Sea. The expert eye-witness's drawing is the keystone that, +with other evidence, provides an understanding of a secret hypersonic +reconnaisance aircraft that is widely rumoured to exist, but routinely +denied by U.S. officials. Its nickname is Aurora. + +Gibson - a former member of the disbanded Royal Observer Corps, a group of +volunteer aircraft-spotters - was able to estimate the strange airplane's +length and width by comparing it with the known dimensions of the K-135 +refueling tanker and two F-111 bombers flying alongside. But it wasn't until +last year, when he came across a magazine design, that Gibson suddenly made +sense of the sharp triangualr silhouette he saw. + +Analysts believe that Aurora is an operational spy plane that replaces the +retired Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird. Like its predecessor, Aurora costs +several million dollars per flight, and is sent out only in missions where +the plane's sensors can gather vital information unobtainable by satelite +reconnaissance or other means. + +It's plausible that Aurora was used to photograph Iraq during Operation +Desert Storm in an attempt to provide tactical intelligence to ground-based +military commanders. Aurora's unique capabilities also equip it for +surveillance of nuclear proliferation. The list of nations of varying +political complexions that covertly possess or are pursuing nuclear arms +capabilities include India, Iran, Iraq, Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, and +South Africa. Suprise visits by a reconnaisance aircraft can give +intelligence analysts clues - such as the presence of military trucks at +an ostensibly civilian plant - which wouldn't be left out in the open when +a spy satelite is scheduled to make its pass overhead. + +Aurora overflights of Russia have probably not occurred. Such missions +would violate an agreement in place since a Lockheed U-2 plane was shot +down over the Soviet Union in 1960. It is likely, that the Aurora monitors +the submarine-building programs of Russia, China and other nations from +well outside their airspace using side-looking sensors. + +Gibson's North Sea sighting completes a puzzle that has obsessed +military-aircraft analysts for several years. Consider the following pieces +of evidence hinting at the existence of something unacknowlegded that flies +high and fast: + +* In February 1990, the Air Force retired its SR-71 spy planes. The + official reason was saving the $200 million to $300 million a year it + cost to operate the fleet of Blackbirds. Reporters were told that the + SR-71's role had been taken over by advanced spy satellites. + +* The money saved was less than 7 percent of the approximately $4 billion + the Air Force spends yearly on satellite reconnaisance - mere chicken + feed by Pentagon standards. Keeping the SR-71's in service would have + provided cheap insurance against an unlucky string of satellite and + rocket failures, such as the ones that occured in 1985-'86. + +* The Air Force actually discouraged congressional attempts to reverse + this termination of its most glamorous aircraft mission. Never in its + history had the flying service walked away from a manned mission without + a fight. + +* The pace of activity at the Air Force's top-secret Groom Lake test + site in the Nevada desert has increased dramatically in recent years, + suggesting the presence there of one or more secret aircraft programs. + By comparing recent photos of the base with ones taken in the late + 1970s, its apparant that several large new buildings were added during + the 1980s. Always visible in the recent pictures are a number of + chartered Boeing 737 airliners that ferry workers in from other + defense-industry towns such as Palmdale, Burbank, or Edwards in Southern + California, or from Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. + +* Since mid-1990, unexplained sonic booms have periodically rattled + Southern California. Officials at the United States Geological Survey, + the agency that monitors earth-quake activity, no doubt irked the + military with their public statements that a very fast, high-flying + aircraft was causing the "airquakes" registered on their array of + seismographs. + +* The federation of American Scientists, a private Washington, D.C.-based + policy group, issued a report late last year on the likelihood that + unacknowledged military aircraft might exist. The cautious review of +unclassified literature on the subject concluded that several new types + of aircraft may indeed be covertly flying around. + + - * - + + ''It is close to midnight, but all the clocks are set to 0730 Greenwich + time. In a closed and guarded hangar, ground crews help two men into + orange pressure suits clamber into a delta-shaped, dull black airplane. + The pilot touches keys that tell computers to start the engines. At + first, the aircraft emits a subdued whine, whcich builds up quickly and + is joined by the sound of rushing air. Then there is a flash of light + from the intake and exhaust ducts as a wave of noise explodes, rolling + harshly over across the dry lake bed. Within the roar are the scream of + small rockets, the cracking thunder of a huge fighter engine, and a + massive pulsing - as low as one cycle per second - that shakes the + entire desert base.'' + + - * - + +Gibson's sighting now makes it possible to reconstruct the Aurora program's +history. The spy plane was operational, or nearly so, by August 1989, just +before the Air Force parked its SR-71s for the last time. Aurora would +have made its first flight by 1986 at the latest, following a development +effort that was launched in 1981. + +This analysis elicited denials by high officials involved in defense and +intelligence matters. Ohio Democratic Sen. John Glenn asserted that his +sources in the intelligence community told him there was no such aircraft. +"I think they're telling the truth", he said. + +Pete Williams, chief spokesman for the Bush administration's Secretary of +Defense, Dick Cheney, gave a standard answer to a query about Aurora. "If +there were such a program, we wouldn't discuss it". Williams explained that +Pentagon policy says the same answer "must always be given" to queries +about secret programs - whether or not they actually exist - to avoid +revealing the truth. Donald B. Rice, Bush's Secretary of the Air Force, +stated :"There's no program in the Air Force, none anywhere else that I +know of. It simply doesn't exist." To some observers the stridency of +Rice's response was puzzling. Why didn't he simply utter the usual +Pentagon disclaimer? + +Black is the adjective most often applied to the hidden world in which such +engineering activites unfold. In a 1985 Pentagon budget document +requesting production funds for 1987, a censor's slip let the line item +"Aurora" appear, grouped with the SR-71 and U-2 programs. Even if Aurora +actually was the project's name at the time, it almost certainly would +have been changed after being thus compromised; "Senior Citizen" is one +new label that has been reported. Rated by the Pentagon as an +"unacknowlegded special-access program," the plane's existence and real +name are secret, and therefore deniable. + +Unconfirmed reports of Aurora's existence first surfaced in 1986 and +POPULAR SCIENCE conjectured about the airplane's likely design in the +November 1988 issue. Now, fresh reports from secret-airplane hunters such +as James Goodall, who heard the and felt bone-shaking sounds coming from +the Groom Lake facility late in December, continue to flesh out the +picture of Aurora and the technology that makes it work. + +Armed with patience and braced for occasional confrontation with +no-nonsense security patrols, resolute observers like Goodall trek through the +harsh Nevada desert to a mountainside overlooking desiccated Groom +Lake. From several miles away - as close as they can get without entering +off-limits goverment land - the watchers can see the large air base with +its motley collection of hangars. Some of the buildings are vast. + +Yet, like a mirage the isolated facility with its six-mile runway doesn't +exist - officially, that is. And its non-existence is longstanding. A 1992 +Lockheed Corp. paper on the early days of the U-2 program refers to +flight-testing at Groom Lake 35 years ago as having occurred merely at "a +remote location" + +For some, monitoring events on the dry lake bed provides the excitement of +pursuing a mystery. Author and photographer Goodall, who has been chasing +classfied programs for almost 30 years, is motivated by enthusiasm for +aircraft and a conviction that he's entitled to know how his taxes are +being spent. His earwitness account indicates that the airplane's +propulsion system is unconventional to say the least. "We heard Aurora +from 18 miles away. The sound was so intense that you feel it. It was quite +something else - a pulsing noise that you'll never forget" + + - * - + + ''The airplane begins rolling forward at half-past midnight, then + accelerates and noses up into the sky like a hot fighter. Seconds later + it is gone, trailing a shattering roar across the desert. In the + cockpit, the pilot sees his course overlaid on a detailed map as the + craft climbs through 60.000 feet at a steep 70-degree angle. Just + minutes after takeoff, the plane is cruising northeast at six times the + speed of sound, covering almost one mile per second. More than 20 miles + above the ground, it passes unheard over Montana and North Dakota into + Canadian airspace. + + Five thousand miles away, a loaded KC-135 tanker lifts heavily into the + early morning sky from a secure air base in western Scotland. At a + second base farther south, four F-111 crewmen walk toward their pair of + aircraft. Only the crew and their base commander knows this will not be a + routine training flight.'' + + - * - + +Aurora was almost certainly built at Lockheed's fabled Skunk Works, now +called the Lockheed Advanced Development Co. Of all known design +organizations, only the Skunk Works has the proven ability to manage large +programs incorporating breakthrough technology in total secrecy. Analysis +of Lockheed's financial statements makes it possible to estimate Aurora's +price tag at about $1 billion per aircraft. At most, 10 to 20 of the new +spy planes have been built. + +A hypersonic prototype paved the way for Aurora. In 1975, Lockheed proposed +a small hypersonic research aircraft that would be launched from the back +of an early version of the SR-71. And a definite survey of Lockheed +aircraft, published in 1982, stated that the company had already flown a +mach 6 experimental craft. By the late 1970s the US government probably +had two main reasons for going ahead with Aurora. The first: improved +Soviet surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems posed an increasing threath to +the SR-71, which flies at Mach 3.2 (2.100 mph) and reaches altitudes above +80.000 feet. By 1980, two potent new Soviet antiaircraft weapons, the +SA-10 Grumble and the SA-12 Gladiator/Giant, were under development. Both +have a maximum altitude of about 100.000 feet and feature advanced +tracking and guidance systems. The second reason for building Aurora was +that the satelites alone are not the best solution to reconnaisance +requirements. While they take superb pictures, satellites also have +inherent limitations. They follow fixed, predictable orbits, which make +their appearance no suprise to a shrewd adversary. Although earthbound +controllers can command satellites to fire thrusters to adjust their +orbits, this ability is strictly limited by a finite on-board fuel supply. +In addition, because it is difficult to supply the amount of power needed +to operate an all-weather radar, most satellites carry only daylight or +low-light cameras. + +Although they cost several hundred million dollars apiece, spy satellites +last, on average, only five years before they are dumped into the +atmosphere and replaced. And it is difficult to increase surveillance +quickly in a crisis unless a stockpile of reserve satellites and launchers +is kept ready - as the former Soviet Union once did. + +Aircraft are much more flexible. They can be dispatched exactly where and +when they are needed, and they can be fitted with day, night, or +bad-weather sensors, depending on the conditions in the target area. + + - * - + + ''During the hour it takes to reach the initial point for descent, the + pilot and reconnaisance systems officer (RSO) in the backseat are fully + occupied with checking equipment to see how it operates in the 1.000 + Fahrenheit friction heat soaking into their aircraft's structure - a + delicate balance between speed, altitude, and deceleration rate. + + Over the North Sea, the tanker and the F-111s gather into a loose + formation and follow a racetrack pattern. Appearing suddenly, the black + jet turns in behind the KC-135 and connects with its refueling boom, + wavering a little while matching the tanker's low speed. During the next + ten minutes, 40 tons of liquid methane flow into the spy plane before it + turns away and hurtles skyward. Already, another loaded methane tanker + and two more F-111s are preparing to depart from their base in Britain." + + - * - + +An analysis of Aurora's three-dimensional shape can be extrapolated from +its 75-degree swept triangular outline. the aircraft corresponds almost +exactly in form and size to hypersonic reconnaisance aircraft studied in +the 1970s and 1980s by McDonnell Douglas, according to Paul Czysz, now a +professor of aerospace engineering at St.Louis University. Czysz worked on +hypersonics while at McDonnell Douglas, including the company's proposal +for the National Aerospace Plane program, and is an acknowlegded expert in +the field. Efficient hypersonic planes "are basically air-breathing +propulsion systems," he says. + +Like the SR-71, Aurora has a crew of two. Flying it is quite unlike +piloting a conventional aircraft. There is little if any outside view, +because a normally angled windshield causes too much drag and gets too hot. +For these reasons, Aurora may have a retractable windshield used only for +takeoffs and landings; at other times, the windshield would be covered by +a heat shield. Aurora's pilot is really a mission manager, monitoring the +aircraft and its systems and following the course of the flight on +large-format video displays. His or her most important function is to cope +with the unexpected; shifts in upper-atmospheric temperature, weather +developments over the target area or refueling zone, or developments with +the plane's mechanical or electronic systems. The RSO supervises a battery +of sensors. The most important is a synthetic-aperture radar (SAR), a +side-looking instrument that takes a sequence of snapshots of the target +as the aircraft moves and compiles them into a single radar image that is +as sharp as if had been acquired using an antenna hundreds of feet wide. +The best SAR images are classified, but have benn described as +"near-photographic," allowing different types of land vehicles to be easily +distinguished from more than 100 miles away, regardless of clouds or smoke. + +In clear weather, Aurora uses daylight and infrared cameras for +ultra-detailed work. And unlike a satellite, the craft can be scheduled to +make its reconnaissance passes at the golden hour for covert imaging; +early morning, when the low sun provides even illumination and long +shadows that highlight features on the ground, before heat-induced haze +forms. A phased-array antenna built into Aurora's upper surface - near the +tail end, where aerodynamic heating is minimal - allows the airplane to +transmit real-time or near real-time imagery to the Pentagon's satellite +network. + + - * - + + ''In a Middle Eastern country, a bored radar operator in an underground + shelter fails to notice a faint blip on one egde of his screen. The + system's computer can't make sense of an echo that's too high to be an + airplane and stops displaying it. A few miles from a medium-size city + lies a walled, heavily guarded compound containing equipment test stands + and several small factory buildings. From time to time a siren sounds, + and temporary covers thrown over sensitive equipment. All activity + ceases for the few minutes it takes a known spy satellite's imaging path + to pass over the base. But no warning is given this morning. + Technicians, including two blond Caucasians, are busily preparing a + rocket motor for testing on an open stand, and a truck that left a Czech + machine-tool factory several days earlier is being unloaded. All of this + detail is faithfully stored on a battery of hard-disk memories by a + camera with a 48-inch telephoto lens. Three hours and 15 minutes after + its takeoff from Nevada, the spy plane makes a wide turn back toward + Northern Europe. The RSO selects the clearest image and transmits them + to a satellite with a few keystrokes. In five minutes, hard copies as + sharp as an original negative are rolling out of a processing machine + 6.000 miles away.'' + - * - + +Aurora uses ramjet engines, because no other type can work as efficiently +at the speeds the plane travels. In its simplest form, a ramjet is a +pinched tube that slows, compresses, and heats the incoming supersonic +airstream before adding fuel to it, producing enormous thrust from the hot +gas expanding out the exhaust nozzle. However, the compression process +also generates tremendous drag. The ramjet designer's challenge is to keep +the level of drag from canceling out the slim margin of thrust that +propels the aircraft. One way to make a ramjet engine efficient is to +stretch it along the entire length of the vehicle. In a hypersonic ramjet +aircraft, the underside of the forward body is a ramp that initially +compresses the air before it enters the inlet ducts, and the curved +underside of the afterbody guides the expansion of the exhaust gas. + + IT'S A LIFTING BODY + +The compressed air underneath the body serves a second purpose: It holds +the airplane up. At Mach 6, conventional wings would be superfluous +appendages creating horrendous drag. Accordingly, the tips of Aurora's +delta planform are mainly there to provide stability and control. The +basic problem with ramjets is that they don't work at all unless the +aircraft is moving quite fast, and they are not very efficient at speeds +less than Mach 2.5. Therefore, Aurora needs some other systems to reach +this speed. There are two clues to the way Aurora's designers solved the +low-speed propulsion problem. The team for the X-30/National Aerospace +Plane (NASP), though tight-lipped about the "accelerator" portion of the +NASP engine design, has indicated that it functions as a ducted rocket in +parts of its operating cycle. The seconds clue is that Aurora has been +associated with two unusual noises: very-low-frequency pulsing sounds and +an extremely loud roar on takeoff. + + + SUPER COLD FUEL + +Even though Aurora is 80 to 90 feet long, which is about 20 feet shorter +than the SR-71, it could weigh more - as much as 170.000 pounds when fully +loaded. A clear two-thirds of its total mass would be fuel. Choosing the +right fuel was crucial to Aurora's design. Because various sections of the +craft will reach cruising-speed temperatures ranging from 1.000 fahrenheit +to more than 1.400 fahrenheit, its fuel must both provide energy for the +engines and extract destructive heat from the airplane's structures. This +is done on the SR-71, but at hypersonic speeds even an exotic kerosene, +such as the special high-flashpoint JP-7 fuel used by the Blackbird, +cannot absorb enough heat. The solution for Aurora is a cryogenic fuel - a +cold liquefied gas. + +The best candidates identified so far are methane and hydrogen. Liquid +hydrogen provides more than twice as much energy and absorbs six times more +heat per pound than any other fuel. The snag is its low density, which +means bigger fuel tanks, a large airframe, and more drag. While liquid +hydrogen is the fuel of choice for a space launch vehicle that accelerates +quickly out of the atmosphere, studies have shown that liquid methane is +better for an aircraft cruising at Mach 5 to Mach 7. Methane (natural gas) +is widely available, provides more energy than jet fuels, and can absorb +five times as much heat as kerosene. Compared with liquid hydrogen, it is +three times denser and easier to handle - inflight refueling has been +studied and poses no problem. Aurora can fly at subsonic speeds because its +entire body, which has a great deal of area, is a lifting surface. Also, +its sharply swept leading edge - like the Concorde's wing - generates a +powerful vortex at nose-high flight angles, which clings to the leading +edge and boosts the body's lift. Unencumbered by aerodynamic freeloaders +such as a conventional fuselage, Aurora's shape is structurally efficient. +It packs a lot of fuel and useful equipment into a relativelu small volume +that saves weight and minimizes friction drag. + +The spy plane's airframe may incorporate some stealth technology, but it +hardly needs it. Hypersonic aircraft are actually much harder to shoot +down than a ballistic missile, Although a hypersonic plane isn't very +maneuverable in the traditional sense, its velocity is such that, within +tens of seconds, even a gentle turn puts it miles away from a SAM's +projected interception point. So why bother with stealth? + + - * - + + ''Having refueled a second time from a tanker over the North Sea after + its Mideast photo session, the black plane heads east at high altitude + across the Atlantic Ocean, North America, and beyond the California + coast. Decelerating and descending above the Pacific Ocean, the craft + drags a sonic boom over the water behind it. As it turns back towards + its Nevada base, part of the inevitable shock wave bends through the + upper atmosphere and rumbles across Southern California as Angelenos are + getting ready for work. "There goes another one," they say, wondering + wether it's a minor earthquake or "that plane we hear about." Time + elapsed from takeoff to landing: 6.5 hours. Distance traveled: 15,500 + miles.'' + - * - + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Its size, configuration and features suggest the aircraft + may have multiple missions. + + Observer descriptions, discussions with industry experts, and + Aviation Week & Space Technology analyses suggest that the large + aircraft could be the first of a two-stage system designed to launch + small payloads into orbit. Released at Mach 6-8 from a raised section + on the aircraft's aft deck, an unmanned vehicle could accelerate to + orbital velocities, then release a small satellite in space. It also + could remain in the atmosphere or fly a suborbital flight path, + carrying its own suite of reconnaissance sensors. + + This concept, at present, has not been confirmed by any U.S. + government agency or military service. However, aeronautics and space + experts agreed the concept has considerable merit, particularly for + orbiting payloads essential to national security. + + Such a two-stage-to-orbit concept is hardly a new one, having surfaced + as a candidate U.S. launch system in the 1950s. It also is the basis + for Germany's Saenger design. Advancements in strong, lightweight and + heat-tolerant materials--as well as breakthroughs in hybrid propulsion + systems--may have made the two-stage concept attractive for + limited-weight, critical payloads. + + According to William R. Laidlaw, a former vice president of advanced + systems for North American Rockwell and current founder/CEO of + Aerotest, early studies defined the characteristics of such an + aircraft. He said a high-speed, air-breathing launch vehicle would + tend to be long, with a high fineness ratio; have a broad, delta + planform; probably have wingtip-mounted vertical fins; use a + multi-cycle propulsion system capable of reaching the Mach 6-8 regine, + and be large enough to carry adequate hydrogen, methane or other + advanced, high-energy, cryogenic fuel. + + + EARLY STUDIES CONSISTENT + Aviation Week analyses are supported by possibly related events and + deduction, such as: + + X A long, slender aerodynamic shape with rounded chines was loaded into + an Air Force C-5 transport at Lockheed's Burbank, Calif., "Skunk Works" + facility on the night of Jan. 6. Estimated to be 65-75 ft. long and 10 + ft. high, it was light-colored and had a distinctive, blended-shape aft + cross section. The C-5 departed Burbank at 11:15pm PST and was cleared + to Boeing Field near Seattle, Wash. + + X A quick-reaction project to develop a two-stage-to-orbit vehicle + would have been highly attractive to the Defense Dept. after the + shuttle Challenger accident and a subsequent series of expendable + launch vehicle failures in the mid-to-late 1980s. A concerned Defense + Dept. may have embraced a means of assuring access to space, especially + if it were an on-demand, flexible launch system. + + X Air Force officials who canceled the SR-71 program said "satellites + can do the job" of strategic reconnaissance. That position appeared to + ignore the predictable and inflexible nature of satellites' fixed + orbits. A high-speed aircraft/spacecraft system that could orbit a + small satelliite carrying a suite of reconnaissance sensors and + communication equipment would overcome that detraction, however. If + the second-stage vehicle were fairly "stealthy," the satellite could + be launched covertly into any orbit at the most desirable time. This + approach also would preclude risks associated with in-atmospere + aircraft overflying hostile areas. + + X Several spacecraft manufacturers have developed small satellites--or + "small-sats"--that would be compatible with a two-stage launch system. + Until recently, none would acknowledge they had built any, though + (AW&ST June 15, p. 94). TRW, Ball Aerospace and others may have + developed a stable of covert flexible spacecraft that can be + configured with a variety of sensors, then launched into orbit on short + notice. + + X Senior National Aero-Space Plane program engineers have admitted + privately that their studies indicate a two-stage-to-orbit system is + technically feasible and would be more economical than a single-stage + system. "Given what we know now, we'd prefer to go with a high-speed + aircraft and launch something from it to get into orbit," one engineer + said. This concept would save about one third the fuel weight required + of a single-stage NASP system, he said. + + X Several years ago, the Air Force Flight Dynamics Laboratory's "Beta" + program was based on a two-stage-to-orbit system that uses a "Concorde- + like" vehicle to launch a "miniature delta-shaped" craft into space, an + engineer familiar with the effort said. For reasons still + unclear, the aircraft was not built, he said. + + HISTORICAL PRECEDENTS + A high-speed, two-stage launch concept is a logical descendant of the + M-12/D-21A system Lockheed's Skunk Works developed under the + A-12/YF-12/SR-71 "Blackbird" programs. A version of the Central + Intelligence Agency's A-12 reconnaissance aircraft, the M-12 was + designed to carry and launch a single 12,000lb. D-21A ramjet drone at + 80,000 ft. and Mach 3. Two of the M-12 "motherships" were built. + + The A-12--originally designated the A-11 by Lockheed--was a single-seat + predecessor of the two-man SR-71. It first flew in April, 1962. The + YF-12A, designed as a Mach 3 interceptor armed with air-to-air missles, + provided valuable flight test data for the follow-on SR-71 aircraft. + All three Blackbird models had similar external planforms. + + Although one aircraft was lost during a test, several D-21A drones + were launced from the M-12 at speeds over Mach 3, proving that + high-speed separation is feasible. Another experiment demonstrated + that the D-21A drone could operate its engines while still attached to + the carrier aircraft, augmenting M-12 thrust during acceleration to + high launch speeds. The drone engine was fueled from the M-12's tanks + during this phase. + + Financial analysts recently concluded that "Aurora" and other + classified programs at Lockheed grew from $65 million in 1987 to $400 + million last year, and could reach $475 million by 1993, according to + Lawrence M. Harris, a Kemper Securities analyst. + + Harris estimated that "Aurora" could be operational in 1995, and may + have made its first flight in 1989. + + Employment at Lockheed's Advanced Development Co. has fluctuated + somewhat in recent years, but, now at 4,600 employees, has remained + higher than can be explained by residual TR-1, F-117A and F-22 work. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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If you find any errors, +please let me know so I can correct this transcription. + +TB: +Our daily difference now. In the 90's, with the cold war behind us, +defense spending is being scrutinized as never before. Tonight, do we +need warplanes that are incredibly fast, agile, and still top secret? +NBC's F Francis has exclusive details. + +FF: +Tom, there are a lot of billion dollar Pentagon secrets that many 4-star +generals don't know. How about this one? Something that moves at 6 +times the speed of sound and was used against Iraq! + +[Video now shows a helicopter view of traffic in southern California. +Pilot's narration follows] +KNX[?] newstime 9:13. Don't know for sure what made the ground move +around 7 o'clock this morning, but seismologists say it was not an +earthquake. + +FF: +The predawn rummblings that has confused millions of southern +Califonians was the sound of their tax dollars flying by. +[video now shows a drawing of a diamond shaped plane flying by] +NBC news has learned that the sonic booms are coming from top secret +reconnaissance planes with revolutionary engines, codenamed Aurora. +They look something like this. They have been tracked five times +since last summer crossing the Los Angeles basin. Jim Mori[?], a +Caltech seismologist, says the planes's sonic booms trigger his +instruments every time. + +JM: +When we see one, it seems like we see two of them coming in together +so it seems to be 2 aircraft flying. + +[video now shows an SR-71 making a low pass--just love that plane!] +Defense sources say the secret planes replace the vaulted SR-71 +Blackbird, retired in 1990. NBC news has been told the aircraft can +fly at almost 5,000 miles per hour. + +[video shows an F-117 taxiing by as another plane goes by behind it] +And one Pentagon source said the F-117's were aided by Aurora over Iraq +during the Gulf War. The Pentagon won't talk about that or any of its +so-called "black" airplanes. + +[video shows Fred Francis standing somewhere in Lincoln County, Nevada] +You see, for decades those California mountains, this vast Nevada +wasteland, the desert's dark nights, have hidden a succession of +Pentagon secrets--hidden exotic airplanes--paid for with black budgets +that only a few dozen people ever see. + +[video now shows the Groom Lake test facility from a distance] +And only a few dozen civilians ever see the planes which are hidden at +bases like this: Groom Lake, Nevada...and kept in large hangars during +daylight. + +Following is refernce to flying objects that defy gravity and are not +the Aurora! +****************************************************************************** + +[video shows a bright light against a dark sky--all with a green tint] +This is exclusive NBC New night-vision video of one of those secret +flying machines--not Aurora, but something that seems to defy the laws +of physics. Hundreds of witnesses have seen the bright light hovering +motionless over mountains, then move quickly across the night sky at +high speeds---like a flying saucer. Marshall Davis has seen it and +other black planes while towing the cars of the curious who get stuck +in the desert. + +[video shows M. Davis driving his tow truck while being interviewed] +MD: +If you're out towards the test sight, you'll see all kinds of different +light patterns. They either move or are stationary..a lot of fast +moving aircraft. + +FF: +Davis watched the F-117 at night for years before the Pentagon unveiled +it, but that was during the Cold War. Now the Pentagon is under +pressure to reduce spending. + +[video shows Fred Francis interviewing General Tony Tolin] +FF: +Tony Tolin, a General who flew the F-117, says that spending for secret +airplanes is still needed, and the public ought to trust the Pentagon. + +TT: +There are other black programs. And one thing I do know about those +that I have seen or have been associated with, they are all +exceptionally well thought out, and there is no huge waste of taxpayers' +dollars---nothing like that whatsoever. + +FF: +Well, Congress is less inclined to take the Pentagon's word for it now +that the arms race is over. Aurora and others may be the last of the +so-call black airplanes. Tom. + +TB: +It's nice to have the General's reassuring words, Fred, but how much +does all this cost? + +FF: +We think that these planes were built at Lockheed's "Skunk Works" in +Burbank, California over the last four or five years. At something over +a billion dollars a year, they're probably finished with the program. +Some four thousand workers were involved, Tom, so anywhere between six +and eight billion dollars. + +TB: +Thank you very much, Fred Francis tonight at the Pentagon. + +[Note: total running time of this news report was 3:50 according to my +son's VCR] + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3097.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3097.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e9c125c3 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3097.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +SUBJECT: RUMORS OF US SUPERPLANE APPEAR UNFOUNDED FILE: UFO3097 + + + + + +I will abbreviate some things to save my fingers- these will be in +square brackets. All typos are mine, w/apologies to Mr. Browne. + + >From _The New York Times_, Tuesday, January 19, 1993 +*****Article Begins***** + +Rumors of US Superplane Appear Unfounded +Russia seems to be further ahead on ultrafast engine. +By Malcolm W. Browne + + Rumors and reported sightings of a secret American superplane have +been proliferating lately almost as abundantly as yarns about [UFO's]. But +despite the acknowledged yearning of many American aviation experts and +buffs for an ultrafast spy plane, it appears that development of even the +engine needed for such a plane is moving faster in Russia than in this +country. The possible existence of a American [intel]-gathering plane +capable of flying at [Mach 8] has been suggested in recent articles in the +British periodical _Jane's Defense Weekly_ [JDW], the American magazine +Aviation Week & Space Technology [AWST] and other respected technical +publications. + These reports are based partly on sightings of large and unusually +shaped airplanes, peculiar looking condensation trails left by high-flying +aircraft and strange rumbling sounds near Edwards [AFB], Calif., and other +places around the world. + +_Secret Project of the 1980's_ + + Some experts believe the purported sightings of a hypersonic +(ultra-high speed) [recon] plane are credible in light of some mysterious +[DOD] budget items in the 1980's called 'Aurora' or perhaps 'Senior +Citizen'. + The theory is that Aurora was intended to produce a new spy plane to +succeed the Lockheed SR-71 'Blackbird', which was retired in 1990. During +the [1/4]-century the SR-71 served America's [intel] agencies, it routinely +flew at speeds up to 2600 [mph] above 100,000 feet, and none of the +countries it scouted ever succeeded in shooting it down, despite hundreds +of attempts. + The Air Force, which operated the SR-71, the U-2 spy plane (which +gained notoriety in 1960 when one was shot down over [Russia]) and [recon] +satellites on behalf of the [CIA], emphatically denies the existence of a +super spy plane. Donald B. Rice, Secretary of the Air Force, said last +month that reports of such an aircraft are 'fantasy'. + An [AF] spokesman said : 'We have looked into all such sightings, as +we have for UFO reports, and we cannot explain them. No [AF] [a/c] were +operating at the times and places of the alleged sightings.' + William Sweetman, author of the report published in [Dec] by [JDW], +still believes in the existence of some kind of secret, high-speed spy +plane. + 'Many of these sightings were from highly qualified and credible +observers', he said, 'and even if the [AF] is not directly involved, the +plane might be operated by some other organization, such as the National +Reconnaissance Office [NRO]'. That office has coordinated [intel] from +satellites and [a/c] for decades, but its very existence was denied by the +Government until recently. + Another writer on secret [intel]-gathering [a/c] and satellites, +William E. Burrows, author of _Deep Black_, also believes Aurora (or its +equivalent under another name) may exist. 'If you put all the evidence +together', he said, 'you have to conclude that some kind of high-speed +plane is flying. But it might not be a dedicated [recon] plane. It might +also operate as a bomber or in some other high-speed mission.' + But a lengthy review of the evidence by the Federation of American +Scientists [FAS] in [Sept] concluded that although the Government has often +falsely denied the existence of [intel]-gathering projects, and therefore +deserves to be doubted, it looks in this case as if Aurora may be nothing +more than wishful thinking. + Dr. John E. Pike, who analyzed the Aurora case for the federation's +newsletter, wrote that 'an understanding of the mystery [a/c] phenomena is +impossible outside the context of the UFO phenomena. + 'Belief in the existence of marvelously capable and highly secret +[a/c] resonates with some of the deeper anxieties of contemporary American +society', he wrote. 'Aviation has long been one of the distinguishing +attributes of American greatness.' + But he added: 'The declining fortunes of the American aerospace +industry have created growing uncertainties about the future. It would be +comforting to believe that the decline of America and American aerospace +was more apparent than real'. + Such sentiments were echoed in a speech Dec. 9 by Daniel S. Goldin, +the Administrator of [NASA], who declared, 'America's historic lead in +aeronautics is in a nose dive'. + +_Franco-Russian Test_ + + Russia and its French aerospace partners, meanwhile, have announced +the successful test-firing of a 'scramjet' [s/j] engine, which operates at +speeds starting at [mach 5] and is capable of lifting an airplane toward +orbit outside the atmosphere. + The Franco-Russian test, as reported by [AWST], was carried out Nov. +17 in Kazahkhstan. [Reps] of the French aerospace company Onera, a partner +in the project, said the [s/j] successfully operated for 15 seconds at +[mach 5.5] in a test using a modified Russian [SAM]. The French said +progress with the [s/j] meant that development of a test [a/c] using the +jet could begin in 1995. + A [s/j] differs from an ordinary jet engine in that it can only +operate at a very high speed. Air entering a [s/j] at high supersonic +speed compresses itself in the engine's reaction chamber, where hydrogen +fuel is injected, mixed with air and ignited, producing a rocket-like +thrust. An [a/c] using such an engine would require a conventional power +plant to take off and reach supersonic speed before firing its [s/j]. +Operating at [mach 8], such an [a/c] could serve as a [recon] spy plane, a +penetration bomber, or even or even an ultra-high speed commercial +airliner. It could also fly to the top of the earth;s atmosphere and then +fire rockets lofting it in the final stage into orbital flight. + +_Place for Space Plane_ + + Two American companies, Rockwell International's Rocketdyne [RD] and +United Technology's Pratt & Whitney [P&W] are trying to develop [s/j's], or +some other possible powerplants, for the projected National Air and Space +Plane, a NASA project. But neither project officials nor [a/c] industry +experts profess to know anything about the mystery high-speed spy plane. + Vincent Rausch, director of the project, said that the development of +power plants for a hypersonic air and space plane was still one of the +major stumbling blocks, and that development of a flying prototype was +nowhere in sight. + 'We don't know anything about it here,' Paul Sewell, a spokesman for +[RD], said of a mystery spy plane, 'but it would sure be great if there was +something like that flying'. + + *****Article Ends***** + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Aviation Week Dec. 24, 1990, page 41 +Scientists' and Engineers' Dreams take to Skies as 'Black' Aircraft + +------------------------------------------ +Herein follows partial text of article #2: +------------------------------------------ + + ************************************************* + AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY October 1, 1990 + ************************************************* + +SECRET ADVANCED VEHICLES DEMONSTRATE TECHNOLOGIES FOR FUTURE MILITARY USE + + Advanced secret aircraft developed at highly classified government +facilities in the Nevada desert over the last decade are demonstrating and +validating new technologies for the U.S.'s future fighters, bombers and +reconnaissance platforms. + + Although facilities in remote areas of the Southwest have been home to +classified vehicles for decades, the number and sophistication of new +aircraft appear to have increased sharply over the last 10 years, when +substantial funding was made available for "deep black" projects. + + Vehicles now flying from these well-guarded sites include both manned +and unmanned hypersonic-capable aircraft designed to perform strategic +reconnaissance and other, less conventionally defined missions. The +classified fleet also comprises a number of large-winged concept +demonstrators that evolved into the Air Force's B-2 bomber and the Navy's +A-12 next-generation attack aircraft. Several vehicles, though, appear to +incorporate technologies that outstrip those now employed by engineers +charged with developing more traditional, current-generation aircraft. + + A number of these aircraft have been seen and heard repeatedly by +ground-based and airborne observers in the western U.S. over the last few +years. Based on about 45 reports provided by people who have seen, heard or +had access to the advanced aircraft, there now appear to be at least two - +but probably more - distinct types of vehicles! + + * A triangular-shaped, *quiet* aircraft seen with a flight of Lockheed +F-117A stealth fighters several times since the summer of 1989. This may be a +demonstrator or prototype of the General Dynamics/McDonnell Douglas A-12. +Navy officials recently noted that full-size test models will soon be +"exposed to public view" during testing, suggesting that predecessors of the +A-12 are already flying. + + * A high-speed aircraft characterized by a very loud, deep, rumbling +roar reminiscent of heavy-lift rockets. When observed at medium altitude, +this aircraft type often makes a pulsing sound and leaves a thick, segmented +smoke trail or contrail. Lighting patterns indicate the aircraft is on the +order of 100+ ft. long, but no reliable description of a planform has been +reported to Aviation Week & Space Technology. + + * A high-altitude aircraft that crosses the night sky at extremely high +speed. Normally, *no engine noise or sonic boom is heard*. The vehicle +typically is observed as a single, *bright light* - sometimes pulsating - +flying at speeds far exceeding other aircraft in the area, and at altitudes +estimated to be above 50,000 ft. Such aircraft have been reported by both +ground-based and airborne observers. This may be the same vehicle as the one +characterized by a loud, pulsing noise when flying at lower altitude and +slower speed... + + ...These primary types of "black" aircraft appear to employ relatively +conventional propulsion systems, although more advanced than those available +to the "white" world. In addition, there is substantial evidence that another +family of craft exists that relies on *exotic propulsion and aerodynamic +schemes not fully understood at this time*. Data pertaining to this type of +vehicle are being studied by Aviation Week and several consultants. + +--- this is only a small part of a larger article. Get it at your Lib and read +it all. + +Excerpts from Aviation Week Oct 1, 1990 pg. 20: + + MULTIPLE SIGHTINGS OF SECRET AIRCRAFT HINT AT NEW PROPULSION, + AIRFRAME DESIGNS + + Multiple reports from well-qualified observers lend substantial credence +to the existence of numerous secret aircraft flying from remote bases in the +southwestern U.S., regardless of the political, funding or technical +arguments against that probability. + + Over the past 13 months, large, triangular wing-shaped aircraft +characterized by a relatively quiet propulsion system have been the objects +of at least 11 sightings near Edwards, AFB, Calif., and one near Fresno, +Calif. These are supported by additional reports of similar vehicles seen and +heard around remote central Nevada communities near government ranges +operated by the Energy Dept. and the Air Force. + + Possibly prototypes of concept demonstrators of the Air Force B-2 or +Navy A-12, the fairly flat, triangular-shaped vehicles have a rounded nose, +rounded wingtips and probably no vertical tail surfaces. The flying wings' +trailing edges may be slightly curved, but definitely are not sawtooth-shaped +like those of the Air Force's B-2 bomber, according to reports received so +far. One ovserver in Nevada described the shape as "like a manta ray." + + Key sightings include: + + * A daytime observation near the Tehachapi mountains (about 30 mi. +northwest of Edwards AFB) in early May verified this craft's triangular +shape. Numerous earlier sightings had been at night, although several were +under a near-full moon that provided enough illumination to identify a large, +triangular planform. The Tehachapi report noted that the aircraft was +light-colored, but had a dark area near the center of the trailing edge, +presumed to be the engine exhaust area. + + * On the night of May 3, 1990, a quiet aircraft matching the triangular +description was reported by five different observers over a 4-hr. period. One +or more of the aircraft made multiple passes over Tehachapi, Mojave, +Lancaster and Palmdale, Calif., during this time. + + * A triangular aircraft also has been seen flying with multiple-ship +Lockheed F-117A flights. Typically, the stealth fighters fly alone, spaced +about 8-10 min. apart - a general pattern that has characterized F-117 +operations since they were first observed in California in mid-1989. + + However, on several occasions, the larger, traingular aircraft appeared +on the same general flight path as the F-117As. It was seen after about three +or four of the stealth fighters had passed, yet was ahead of another three or +four. It has been spotted repeatedly over the northern end of the Antelope +Valley, near Edwards AFB and Mojave, Calif., as well as in central Nevada. + + This vehicle is quiter that the F-117As - which already are +substantially quieter than an F-15 or F-16 - and definitely larger. It +normally displays a lighting pattern similar to that of the F-117s - single +amber lights under the wingtips and a red beacon near the nose - but can be +distinguished by its characteristic hushed engine noise and larger planform. + + All observer descriptions of the triangular aircraft correlated closely, +and the observer who reported seeing the vehicle before sunset sketched a top +view. That sketch matched descriptions of similar vehicles supposedly seen in +Nevada-based government hangars several years ago and flying in military +operating areas nearby... + + ...A totally separate, distinctly different type of aircraft seen and +heard in California and Nevada over the last year is characterized by a loud, +very deep, rumbling engine noise, At times, the exhaust noise is punctuated +by a slow-frequency (about 1 Hz.) pulsing sound, which has prompted observers +to call this aircraft the "pulser." The aircraft also produces a +sausage-link-shaped smoke trail or vapor contrail when it is pulsing. This +vehicle is not the triangular-shaped aircraft discussed earlier, and may be +capable of hypersonic speeds. + + At other times, however, the aircraft exhibits a more continuous noise +without the pulsing characteristic. Observers are confident it is the same +type of aircraft, based on its distinctive deep, loud roar. + + There have been multiple reports of "pulser" flights, including: + + * The first, in July, 1989, at about 3 a.m. near Edwards AFB, Calif. The +vehicle was at medium altitude, flying very fast and exhibiting the +characteristic pulsing sound. The "pulser's" position was marked by a *white +glow*, rather than a distinct point of light. + + * An early evening takeoff from Edwards AFB on Oct. 18, 1989. + + * Multiple reports of an aircraft having a deep, pulsing roar flying +over central and eastern Nevada during the early morning hours throughout the +past year. + + * Eight separate reports of an aircraft exhibiting the same +characteristics, always flying on a northerly heading near Mojave, Calif., +between midnight and about 5 a.m. It was typically at lower altitude and +slower speeds than when first seen in July, often had a slower pulsing sound +and displayed only two position lights. + + * Six reports of an extremely fast-moving vehicle in southern +California's skies, ranging from Santa Barbara on the Pacific coastline to +near George AFB at the eastern end of the Antelope Valley. These aircraft +typically were flying at very high altitude, were seen as a *single bright +light*, and seldom changed direction. Speed changes have been observed, and, +on occasion, a pulsing red or white light was seen. Whether these so-called +fast movers also are the "pulser" aircraft is not known. + + A Santa Barbara observer estimated the aircraft crossed "some 350 mi. of +night sky off the Pacific Missile Range bases in about 6 min." (about 3450 +mph!) One Aviation Week & Space Technology editor estimated a similar +aircraft - seen as a bright point of white light - required less than 20 sec. +to transit about 70 deg. of sky... + + ...On Oct. 18, 1989, the "pulser" apparently took off from North Base, +an airfield at the north end of the Edwards AFB complex primarily devoted to +classified programs. The noise from that takeoff was described as extremely +loud, with a deep, throaty rumble that shook houses 16 mi. away, drawing +residents into the street. One observer claimed the noise compared with that +of Saturn 5 rocket tests conducted at Edwards AFB in the 1960s and 1970s. + + Although no lights were seen, the deep, vibrating roar continued for +about 5 min., and its source appeared to be climbing steeply to the north. +"Your eyes tended to follow the noise; something was climbing at a very steep +angle," one observer noted. Residents of surrounding communities reported +that the sound "was like the sky ripping," and was unlike anything they had +heard in the Edwards area for years. + + The same pulsing, very loud, rumbling type of engine noise has been +reported by multiple observers in central Nevada as well. It typically was +heard in the early morning hours and was described as having a 1-2 Hz. pulse +rate. One Nevada-based observer said tha same pulsing aircraft departed from +the Groom Lake range and flew over a neaby community as recently as Aug. 6. +It was "the loudest thing I've ever heard. It wasn't breaking the sound +barrier, but it was rattling the window!" * + + An interesting note: one of the drawings accompanying the text + shows the object as a very rounded triangular shape glowing + orange! + The variety of highly classified "black world" aircraft has prompted +industry experts to suggest that the term "Aurora," which has been used in +reference to a purported new classified hypersonic aircraft, may be +inappropriate. Instead, Aurora may be one of several code names, all +referring to a class of aircraft designed for multiple missions. + + A line item identified as "Aurora" in a Fiscal 1986 Procurement Program +document dated Feb. 4, 1985, supposedly was simply one "site" for B-2 bomber +funds when that program was highly classified, according to a government +official. Listed under the "Other Aircraft" category, "Aurora" was projected +to receive sharply increased funding. The Fiscal 1986 budget request for +Aurora - $80.1 million - jumped to $2.272 billion in Fiscal 1987, according +to the document. + + ...Several of the secret aircraft believed to be based in Nevada may be +experimental or prototypes. At least one type has advanced to the production +and deployment phases, and may be capable of hypersonic flight, according to +officials who have been closely associated with classified programs at +several Nevada test sites in recent years. One senior official said, "We +don't really do anything strictly for experimental reasons. There's usually +an operational twist." Several of these people had hands-on experience with a +number of the classified vehicles. + + Although prevented from discussing specific projects, these individuals +said, "There are bigger and better things out there," referring to aircraft +based at the Nevada test locations... + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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(Wasn't the poster of the material on this plane +also named Scott?) (This article predates Landers quake) + "Evidence of a high-speed, high-altitude classified +aircraft powered by an advanced propulsion system continues +to grow, despite U.S. Air Force claims that no such aircraft +are being acquired by the service. + "Photographs taken over Amarillo, Tex., of contrails +produced by a 'pulser' aircraft show the distinctive 'donuts +on a string' pattern previously reported by observers in +California and Colorado. The contrails are consistent with +exhaust characteristics of several advanced propulsion +concepts, such as a pulse detonation wave engine (PWDE). + "Sightings of high-speed 'pulser' vehicles that leave +either this pattern or a segmented, 'sausage-link' contrail +have been reported for about three years, but Pentagon +officials continue to say they have no knowledge of such an +aircraft. Countering that position, a senior Air Force +officer who recently addressed civic leaders in California +hinted that Peale AFB will be assigned a new 'flight' or +mission within the next two years. Funding requests now +being drafted by Air Force headquarters for facility +construction at Peale would appear consistent with a new +mission. P/ "Unknown aircraft having pulse-type engines +were seen at Peale in late February, but were believed to be +transients. (Anybody, WHAT is a "transient? beth) + "The Texas contrails were photographed on Mar. 23 at 8:30 +AM after the aircraft had crossed Amarillo at high speed on +a southeasterly heading. Although the sky was clear and +visibility unlimited, the vehicle was out of sight before +Steven A. Doublass, the photographer, could spot it. He +described its engine noise as a 'strange, loud pulsating +roar...unique...a deep pulsating rumble that vibrated the +house and made the windows vibrate." > + "The powerplant produced a continuous series of short +low-frequency pulses of uniform duration. Douglass said its +sound was 'similar to rocket engine noise, but deeper, with +evenly timed pulses.' P/ "Douglass also is a radio +PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service 10/04/92 2:40 AM + +hobbyist who publishes 'Intercepts' a monthly newsletter +about military radio monitoring. As a result, he owns +equipment capable of scanning ultra-high frequencies used by +U.S. Air Force aircraft. P/ "After the vehicle passed +Amarillo, Douglass detected digitally encrypted speech on +288 MHz., a narrow-band military frequency used as a +downlink by USAF communications satellites. The only traffic +previously monitored on this frequency occurred during the +gulf war, suggesting that the channel is reserved for +special missions." P/ "Two North American Air Defense +Command frequencies (260.8 MHz. and 364.2 MHz) also were +active at the time. The primary MORAD frequency (260.8 MHz) +is the airborne intercept command channel for the Southwest +U.S. region. Air-to-air communications on that channel were +between an AWACS aircraft with the call sign 'Dragnet 51' +from Tinker AFR, Okla., and two unknown aircraft using the +call signs 'Darkstar November' and 'Darkstar Mike'. Messages +consisted of phonetically transmitted alphanumerics NEXT +PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service 10/04/92 2:44 AM + + HOMELIFE +TOPIC: HOBBIES +TIME: 10/03 9:04 PM + +TO: ALL +FROM: BETH HUGHES (CPTG05A) +SUBJECT: EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE + +CONTINUED MATERIAL FROM "AVIATION WEEK AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY" +May 11, 1992 pp 62, 63: "New Evidence Bolsters Reports of +Secret High-Speed Aircraft" by William R. Scott. + "It is not known whether this radio traffic had any +association with the 'pulser' that had just flown over +Amarillo. P/ "On Apr. 5 (a Sunday) and Apr. 22, radio +hobbyists in Southern California monitored transmissions +between Edwards' AFB's radar control facility (Joshua +Control) and a high altitude aircraft using the call sign +'Gaspipe.' The series of radio calls occurred at +approximately 6 a.m. local time on both dates. + "Controllers were directing the unknown Gaspipe aircraft +to a runway at Edwards, using advisories similar to those +given space shuttle crews during a landing approach. The +monitors recorded two advisories, both transmitted by Joshua +Control to Gaspipe; 'You're at 67,000, 81 mi out,' and +Seventy mi. out, 36,000. Above glideslope.' + "The first transmission implied Gaspipe was a special- +-mission aircraft flying at 67,000 ft., well above a 50,000 +ft. limit observed by pilots of modern military aircraft +such as the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18. When flying above 50,000 +ft., USAF crews typically wear pressure suits as protection +against adverse physiological effects related to low +atmospheric pressure. Crews routinely flying high-altitude +aircraft such as the U-2/TB-1 and the SB-71 above 50,000 ft +always wear full pressure suits. + "When AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY queried Edwards AFB +and Pentagon officials last week about the Gaspipe +communications, they said Joshua Control's documents contain +no record of controllers having 'worked' an aircraft with +such a call sign on those dates. They also confirmed that +no U-2/TB-1 or NASA-operated SB-71s were controlled at those +times. P/ "Data from the Texas and Edwards AFB +observations are augmented by multiple reports of at least +five low-pitched, rumbling sonic booms heard by residents in +the Los Angeles area over the past year. (AW&ST Nov. 15,1991 +p.23; Nov. 11, 1991 p.15) Initially these were thought to +be mild earthquakes. On Apr. 16 about 7 a.m. two shocks +were detected approximately 2 min apart -- a now-standard +pattern consistent with two aircraft flying with slightly +different tracks. So far, all the Los Angeles-area booms +have been heard on Thursday mornings between 6 and 8:30 a.m. + "The U.S. Geological Survey's earthquake monitoring +system has recorded five sets of the distinctive shock waves +PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service 10/04/92 2:44 AM + +as they rolled over Southern California, and confirmed they +were not earthquakes. James J. Mori, a USGS seismologist, +plotted time-of-arrival data from the activated sensors and +compared them to patterns produced by the space shuttle and +SB-7a. P/ "These reference shock-data were derived from +a shuttle orbiter as it descended supersonically towards +Edwards AFB, and from the SB-71 during its 1990 trans- +continental speed record flight. The data provided an +approximate speed/altitude calibration of the USGS sensor +array. Based on those benchmarks, Mori estimated the +unknown aircraft's speed at 'several times the speed of +sound,' possibly as high as Mach 3. P/ "Separately, +during the last seven months, a small team of observers in +southern California logged at least 30 sonic booms believed +to be produced by the same unknown aircraft type that +periodically triggered the USGS sensors. Because its 'boom' +and subsequent engine sound was quite distinctive, observers +claim they could easily distinguish the 'pulser' from NEXT + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Correlating overflight +date, time and apparent aircraft direction, one team member +developed a map depicting four suspected flight tracks the +vehicles appear to use. P/ "The team member, a former +Marine Corps aircraft specialist, described the unknown +vehicles' distinctive engine noise, heard on a subsonic +overflight at 11:46 p.m. on Mar. 26: "The engine noise was +audible for approximately 1.5 min. At its maximum [volume] +it was as loud as an F-4 (Phantom Fighter) with full burners +[operating] about 2 mi away. It was very low-pitched with +a hollow, "windy" sound....continuous but oscellating. +There was a continuous undertone, very low, very powerful," +he reported. "There was a high frequency oscillating +overtone, much like a strong wind blowing over the mouth of +an enormous bottle. The overtone oscillated only slightly +in frequency (less than one-eighth octave) and varied +greatly in amplitude (say roughly 75%) It was totally +unlike anything I have ever heard before, and I have spent +many years of my life working with military aircraft," he +said. P/ His description closely matched that of +observers who saw and heard an aircraft depart from Beale +AFB, CA, the night of Feb. 26 and join up with a MC-35 +tanker. "Displaying a triangular lighting pattern, the +aircraft's engine noise was described a 'low rumble, like +air rushing through a big tube," one witness said. + Others living near Beale AFB also reported hearing a +series of 'booms' that they described as 'like artillery +firing' late at night on Feb. 26. Detonations were heard at +2 - 3 sec intervals for approximately 30 min., and were +characterized as 'deep bass sounds, not like sonic booms.' +The sounds were emanating from the Air Force Base, not +passing overhead. ******I wonder if that is what I am +hearing off-shore instead of the ships. I have listened to +the navy practice for over fifty years and never have I +heard the ships fire so rapidly and for a thirty minute +period and then quit.......from the apparent location of the +EQ most recently experienced WSW of Oceanside. (beth*****) + "Researchers familiar with pulse-detonation wave engines +said the noise and low pulse frequency would be consistent +PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service 10/04/92 10:41 AM + +with 'light-off' tests of a PDWE, the mechanism by which a +detonation cycle is initiated. P/ "'Light-off' of a +PDWE is considered a difficult phase to control. They +speculated that technicians may have been 'trimming' an +engine during a drownd run at Beale AFB." + End of Article. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Although no one has managed to --------> +photograph the craft itself, its radar image, unique exhaust +contrail, engine sound, and sonic boom have all been +characterized in multiple reports by observers in the +Western United States and Great Britain. Yet, questions +directed to the prime suspect in mystery-plane cases - the +U.S. Air Force - yield only denials of any knowledge. + +The aircraft, betraying its shadowy presence may be a high- +altitude hypersonic spy plane code-named "Aurora" that's +presumed to have replaced the retired SR-71 Blackbird (see +"Revealed! Mach 5 Spy Plane," Nov. 88). On five occasions-> +since June 1991, the U.S. Geological Survey's extensive +network of earthquake-monitoring seismographs in Southern +California has recorded window-rattling sonic booms produced +by an airplane traveling northeast at several times the +speed of sound. + +The booms have all occurred on Thursdays at about 7:00 a.m., +says U.S. Geological Survey seismologist James J. Mori at +the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. "We call +them airquakes," he says. "This mystery plane has a +distinctly different sonic-boom waveform than other large--> +supersonic aircraft like the space shuttle and the SR-71. +"We track it because people have been calling us wanting to +know if there's been an earthquake." + +Many observers in several states have reported hearing very +loud, deep rumbling and pulsating sounds coming from an +aircraft moving at high speed. An aircraft emitting these +sounds was spotted this past February taking off at night +from Beale Air Force Base near Sacramento, Calif. Its +propulsion system may be a pulse detonation wave engine - a +known type that develops thrust in intermittent bursts, ---> +rather than continuously - according to reports in the trade +journal Aviation Week & Space Technology. + +Bill Sweetman, an ecpert on classified "Black" military +PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service 10/04/92 7:30 PM + +programs, suggests in Jane's Defense Weekly that the +aircraft may be capable of reaching Mach 6 (4000 mph) +burning liquid methane or hydrogen fuel. He believes the +plane is returning from hypersonic (greater than Mach 5) +flights over the Pacific Ocean and decelerating over the Los +Angeles area as it heads northeast for a landing at the +highly classified flight test base at Groom Lake, Nevada.--> +Sweetman reports that a Royal Air Force air traffic +controller tracked an aircraft leaving the remote NATO-RAF +base at Machrihanish in western Scotland last November at a +speed of Mach 3. No acknowledged aircraft capable of such +speed is based there. + + + +See next note for conclusion of article. +PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service 10/04/92 7:30 PM + + HOMELIFE +TOPIC: HOBBIES +TIME: 10/04 11:17 AM + +TO: ALL +FROM: LINDA HITCHINGS (MFHP99A) +SUBJECT: EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE + +This is the final paragraph from the article that appeared +in the August 1992 issue of Popular Science. + + WHAT HYPERSONIC PLANE? continued........ + +Call it Aurora, the mystery plane, or whatever. The ultra +fast, groundshaking high flyer may be one of the latest ---> +in the long line of exotic aircraft that have resulted from +Lockheed Corp.'s fabled Skunk Works. Financial analysts +note that the company's budget and work force can only be +fully acconted for by one or more substancial black programs +secretly funded by the Pentagon - and perhaps the +intelligence services. + author: Stuart F. Brown + +This is the end of the article. Accompanying the article +are two photographs of the contrail of this aircraft and a +seismic profile chart. +PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service 10/04/92 7:33 PM + + HOMELIFE +TOPIC: HOBBIES +TIME: 10/04 11:17 AM + +TO: ALL +FROM: LINDA HITCHINGS (MFHP99A) +SUBJECT: EARTHQUAKE MAN MADE + +This is the final paragraph from the article that appeared +in the August 1992 issue of Popular Science. + + WHAT HYPERSONIC PLANE? continued........ + +Call it Aurora, the mystery plane, or whatever. The ultra +fast, groundshaking high flyer may be one of the latest ---> +in the long line of exotic aircraft that have resulted from +Lockheed Corp.'s fabled Skunk Works. Financial analysts +note that the company's budget and work force can only be +fully acconted for by one or more substancial black programs +secretly funded by the Pentagon - and perhaps the +intelligence services. + author: Stuart F. Brown + +This is the end of the article. Accompanying the article +are two photographs of the contrail of this aircraft and a +seismic profile chart. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3102.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3102.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a8f00841 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3102.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ + +SUBJECT: MYSTERY CRAFT HAUNT CALIFORNIA AIR BASES FILE: UFO3102 + + + + + + MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + Operation Right To Know Newsletter, Vol. 1, No.4 + September/October 1992 + Posted at the request of Operation Right To Know + +ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ +³ MYSTERY CRAFT HAUNT CALIFORNIA AIR BASES ³ +³ ³ +³By Hal McKenzie ³ +³ ³ +³ Sightings of strange craft have become commonplace in ³ +³southern California's Antelope Valley, particularly near Air³ +³Force bases and supersecret aerospace research facilities ³ +³called "skunk works," according to Bill Hamilton, an ³ +³independent UFO investigator in Glendale. ³ +³ ³ +³ A dark, triangular, silent object has been sighted by ³ +³independent witnesses from Lancaster all the way to ³ +³Hesperia, Hamilton said in a phone interview. The object ³ +³seemed to be moving along the northern boundary of the San ³ +³Gabnel Mountains on an eastwest trajectory. The object has ³ +³been seen "quite frequently within the last 10 months," ³ +³Hamilton said. ³ +³ ³ +³ Hamilton cited a news report of a United Airlines 747 ³ +³jumbo jet that nearly collided with a mysterious, wingless ³ +³craft on August 5. Aviation Week & Space Technology, in its ³ +³August 24 issue described the encounter this way: ³ +³ ³ +³ "The pilot and copilot of United flight 934, with a heavy ³ +³passenger load from Los Angeles to London, said they saw an ³ +³unusual aircraft coming directly at them and pass under the ³ +³747 by an estimated 500-1,000 feet. The incident occurred ³ +³near George AFB at about 1:45 p.m. on August 5. The 747 was ³ +³at 23,000 ft. departing from Los Angeles International ³ +³Airport on a heading of about 40 deg. magnetic . . . ³ +³ ³ +³ "The several-second sighting gave the crew the impression ³ +³that the other aircraft was a lifting-body configuration, ³ +³and they described it as looking like the forward fuselage ³ +³of a Lockheed SR-71--without wings but with a tail of sorts.³ +³They estimated the size as similar to an F-16. ³ +³ ³ +³* Hints of Secrets ³ +³ ³ +³ "Defense Dept. and Air Force officials said late last ³ +³week that it was not one of their secret projects," the ³ +³AvWeek article continued. " 'But we're not the only ones ³ +³with strange projects,' he added, referring to the CIA and ³ +³other organizations [our emphasis]." Was this an inadvertent³ +³tip-off of secret tests of alien technology conducted by ³ +³shadowy ultra-secret government agencies outside the regular³ +³military? ³ +³ ³ +³ Hamilton also said there were "one or two reports of big ³ +³boomerangs being sighted in the Lancaster area" of a type ³ +³seen frequently over upstate New York and Belgium, some of ³ +³which witnesses estimated to be 2-3 football fields in span.³ +³He said it was significant that the sightings took place in ³ +³and around airspace controlled by the military, at Edwards ³ +³AFB and George AFB, as well as an FAA facility for the Los ³ +³Angeles area near Palmdale and other aerospace facilities. ³ +³When asked about the boomerangs, authorities "just deny ³ +³knowing anything about it," Hamilton said. ³ +³ ³ +³ Hamilton said that last summer, when there was heavy ³ +³sighting activity in Antelope Valley, he called the Public ³ +³Affairs officer at Edwards AFB. "He didn't dispute it, but ³ +³said there was a lot of secret projects in the valley," ³ +³Hamilton said. "He told me he wanted to take some fast film ³ +³and see it himself." The FAA denied any radar contact, ³ +³Hamilton said. ³ +³ ³ +³* Discs and Boomerangs ³ +³ ³ +³ Hamilton said that on several occasions in the last two ³ +³years there were suspicious sightings near "skunk works," or³ +³top-secret research and development facilities in the ³ +³valley. He said that at a Northrop facility, witnesses saw a³ +³"disc hovering directly over the facility in broad daylight,³ +³streaking off toward the mountains. ³ +³ ³ +³ "Back in October 26, 1988, witnesses saw two large ³ +³boomerangs escorted by about 17 discs in formation, at very ³ +³slow speed, that flew over the Northrop facility, and was ³ +³seen that night in Fresno. A friend who saw it pass directly³ +³overhead estimated it was twice the width of his property, ³ +³which was 330 feet wide," Hamilton said. ³ +³ ³ +³=END= ³ +ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3103.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3103.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..751308c5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3103.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,140 @@ + +SUBJECT: DENIAL AND DISINFORMATION FILE: UFO3103 + + + + + + +Janes Defense Weekly +Vol 18, No 24/25, 12 December 1992. + +DISGUISED BY NASP + +Has the National Aero-Space Plane - NASP - provided a disguise for Aurora? At +a conference in Orlando last month Heinz Pfeffer, head of the European Space +Agency's directorate for space transportation systems, told JDW: "NASP is a +cover for Aurora. There's no other reason that the industry would put $900 +million into NASP. + +"Aurora has achieved its goals and NASP can be allowed to fizzle out." NASP's +future is in doubt because Congress has not approved funds for developing a +prototype. + + +DENIAL AND DISINFORMATION + +Despite political moves to acknowledge more programmes, USAF and Congressional +leaders continue to fend off questions on the hypersonic aircraft, while +avoiding direct unambiguous denials that USAF is operating a secret +high-performance aircraft. + +USAF Secretary Donald Rice brushed off reports of unidentified high-speed +aircraft in a press conference in Los Angeles on 30 October. "The system that +has been described in those articles does not exist. We have no aircraft +programme that flies at six times the speed of sound or anything close to +that," Rice told reporters. + +He cast doubt on "the kind of descriptions laid out in some of those articles" +which "would take an aircraft of such proportions and capabilities that there +wouldn't be a snowball's chance in you know where of hiding it." + +The most specific denial concerns a Mach 6 aircraft, but according to [Paul] +Czysz "Mach 6 is exactly where you don't want to fly", because it is a +transition point between different modes of any likely propulsion system. + +USAF has been casting doubt on the siesmographic evidence collected by the US +Geological Survey, which indicates that unifentified supersonic aircraft +have been crossing southern California. Under contract to USAF, Massachussetts +Institute of Technology's Lincoln Laboratory analyzed one of these readings and +concluded that it was caused by a US Navy fighter on a flight-test mission. + +This does not explain repeated readings from sensors more than 130 km inland, +unless pilots have been routinely violating the ban on supersonic flight over +metropolitan areas. The USAF Flight Test Center states that the boom carpet +of an aircraft at 50 000 ft extends 40km on either side of the flight path. +Witnesses describe the booms as a "rumbling" sound rather than the pop-thud +of a fighter boom. + +USAF's credibility is undermined by the fact that the DoD authorizes +disseminating misleading information. + +Steven Aftergood, Editor of the Secrecy & Government Bulletin for the +Federation of American Scientists, said: "Once we know that the DoD practices +this kind of deception, it becomes harder to discern what's real and what is +not." + +JDW asked Senator Sam Nunn (left), Chaiman of the Senate Armed Services +Committee, about the California booms at a press conference in Dayton earlier +this year. Also present was Ohio Senator John Glenn, a senior member of the +Senate Intelligence Committee. + +As SASC Chaiman, Nunn is briefed on Special Access Programs (SAPs). Normally, +the full SASC and intelligence committees get the same briefing. + +Aftergood has reported the existence of a subset of SAPs called "waived +programmes", in which the Secretary of Defense waives the requirement to +notify the full committees, and briefs only the chairman and senior minority +members of each committee. if the hypersonic aircraft is a waived programme, +Nunn would be briefed and Glenn would not. + +Nunn's response to the question was to refer it to Glenn, without expressly +declining to comment. Glenn's response was: "First, I don't know. Second, +no comment." + + +RADICAL ENGINE TECHNOLOGY + +The hypersonic aircraft may be powered by a type of combined cycle engine, +studied in the 1960s by Dr. Fred Billig at the Applied Physics Laboratory +of John Hopkins University. + +The Billig-cycle engine uses cryogenic fuel and combines features of a ramjet, +a rocket and a turbojet engine. It is lighter than a classic turbo-ramjet and +unlike a rocket/ramjet combination, it can operate efficiently across the +entirtire speed range. + +The engine is based on a ramjet duct, which incorporates both a ramjet fuel +injector, a group of small rocket nozzles protruding into the ramjet duct on +a retractable strut, and a turbine-driven compressor. + +To sink heat from the airframe at high speed, methane is pumped through the +aircraft's skin, where it is heated to ambient temperature. The heated methane +fuel then drives the compressor's turbine where it expands from a liquid to a +gas. Both the high-pressure air from the compressor and the expanded methane +from the turbine are delivered to the rocket-type nozzles in the ramjet duct, +where the compressed air/methane mixture is ignited. The high-velocity rocket +exhaust in the ramjet duct draws more outside air through the ramjet duct, +using the ejector principle. + +At certain regimes (take-off, climb and transonic acceleration) the compressed +air oxidizer can't provide the needed thrust in the rocket nozzles, so at those +times liquid oxygen (LOX) is added along with the air, to the rocket nozzles. +This increases rocket nozzle exhaust velocity, draws additional air through the +ramjet duct and increases the pressure ratio to the point where more methane +can be added (through the ramjet fuel injector) and burned in the duct. + +At idle and low speeds, however, the ramjet duct is too large for the airflow. +[What I think he meant to say here is that the total flow is too large for +the ramjet duct] The flow becomes discontinuous, with a cyclic build-up and +release of pressure in the duct, producing the distinctive noises associated +with these unidentified aircraft. + +The engine needs less oxygen as the vehicle accelerates, firstly because more +air is flowing into the ramjet duct; and secondly, increased skin friction +means that the methane driving the turbine has more energy, so the compressor +is delivering more air pressure to the rocket nozzles. The LOX flow is +gradually reduced, reaching zero at about Mach 2.5. + +At higher speeds, the methane supply to the rocket nozzles may be shut down and +methane fuel delivered through the ramjet fuel injector only. The compressor +exhaust however can supercharge the ramjet until Mach 6, when the compressor +inlet closes and the strut with the rocket nozzles retracts to reduce drag. +The engine can then run as a pure ramjet to Mach 8. + +-end + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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An Air Force official added that "we would have been remiss in +our responsibilities if we didn't try." + +Sources said they were willing to discuss the top-secret, special-access- +required program in a limited fashion because of an increasing number of media +reports that the AF is operating a hypersonic SR-71 follow-on. They believe, +as one source said, that the stories should be "debunked". + +The aircraft, of which only drawings and small models were made, was to have +been capable of sustained speeds of about Mach 4-5 with an intercontinental +range. It would have been a large aircraft, about the size of the B-1B bomber, +with a long, tapered fuselage. + +Sources said the AF and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency were +pursuing the technology against the wishes of the Central Intelligence Agency, +which wanted the funding diverted to develop and procure more sophisticated +spy satellites using technologies such as imaging radar. + +But the AF countered that an aircraft could be more responsive than a +satellite if imagery was needed of a location faster than a satellite could +be positioned over it. This argument "still holds", a Pentagon source said. + +Sources were reluctant to discuss the specific technologies that would have +been applied to the aircraft, except to say that they were similar to those +now being wrestled with on the National Aerospace Plane. + +"Let me put it this way," an ex-Pentagon official said. "Many of the same +people working on NASP (also) tried to make this thing work. If they had +succeeded years ago, why would they be having so much trouble now? + +A senior AF official ridiculed the suggestion - made in some press reports - +that NASP is a huge cover for the hypersonic plane. + +Though unwilling to discuss technical details, sources did say that slush +hydrogen or methane was the intended fuel for the aircraft, but that the +materials technology didn't exist to keep slush supercooled for the length +of a mission in fuel tanks only a few inches from skin temperatures of +thousands of degrees. + +Propulsion technology also had not advanced far enough tp provide the +desired increase in capability over the SR-71, sources said. + +"The analogy of lighting a match in a wind tunnel is valid," observed one +source. "It's not an easy thing to do, and it hasn't been done yet." + +The project "did not, in the final analysis, cost all that much money," an +industry source once connected with the program said. "But there was no way +to cost it out and see where we would end up. We did not have a blank check, +and there were competing programs deemed by the most senior Air Force +leadership to have (higher) priority. + +One of these higher priorities was the B-2 bomber. Ironically, one of the +"hiding places" for funding for the then-secret B-2 was "Aurora," a program +name which accidently made its way into a 1985 Pentagon budget document. +The "Aurora" line item in the P-1, or procurement, budget book was slated to +increase to $2.7 billion in 1986 and was listed as an aircraft. This accidental +reference is what spawned a near-cottage industry in speculation about a secret +hypersonic plane. + +The speculation increased when the Air Force decided to retire the SR-71 +without an obvious successor in public view. Coupled with the AF's +clandestine development, production and operation of the F-117 stealth +attack plane, many industry observers refused to believe the service's +denial that it had an "Aurora" or other top-secret reconnaissance aircraft. + +Air Force Secretary Donald B. Rice has of late aggressively denied persistent +reports of an "Aurora." Sources said Rice has been challenged by members of +Congress who also refuse to believe his denial of the program's existence, +insisting that they are being kept in the dark about a program for which they +are supplying funds. + +An exasperated Rice told reporters last fall that the persistent rumors are +creating "certain beliefs and expectations in some quarters that are just +unfounded" (DAILY, Nov. 2). Rice said the reports have "gotten way out of +hand," and he added "categorically" that "the system described in those +articles does not exist. We have no aircraft that flies at six times the +speed of sound or anything up close to that." He said such a program would +be impossible to conceal because it would involve too many people and cost +too much money. + +During the years of speculation about the then-secret F-117, Air Force +officials and spokesmen never categorically denied the program's existence, +but instead chose the ambiguous, "I have nothing for you on that," or a +flat "no comment." + +Rice fired off a terse letter to The Washington Post in December complaining +about two "Aurora" stories that accused the AF of spreading "disinformation". + +He insisted that the service has no such program "either known as 'Aurora' +or by any other name. And if such a program existed elsewhere, I'd know +about it - and I don't." He added that he has "never hedged a denial" about +it, and the AF "has never created ... cover stories to protect any program or +vehicle like 'Aurora.' I can't be more unambiguous than that." Rice echoed +the remarks in a rare interview with CNN the next day. + +The AF has investigated various reports of phenomenon that suggested an +"Aurora"-type aircraft, because, as one service official said, "it wasn't +one of ours and we wanted to know if it was someone else's." + +The service had MIT's Lincoln Laboratories do an independent analysis of data +recorded in Southern California by a U.S. Geological Survey seismologist. The +data allegedly showed that some aircraft was routinely causing triple-sonic +booms. But Lincoln Labs found that "the data matched documented flight tests +of Navy aircraft along the California coast," according to an AF document. + +"Aurora" was reported to have made a covert night landing at Lockheed's +Helendale, Calif., facility on July 12, 1992, but the AF said this would be as +"amazing" feat, since the field is "short, narrow ... only 4,000 feet long and +400 feet wide ... and could not possibly accomodate a billion dollar, one-of- +a-kind hypersonic aircraft nearly the length of a Boeing 747." + +A "long, slender, aerodynamic shape with rounded chines" seen being loaded +into a C-5 at the Skunk Works - and reported as "Aurora" - was actually an +F-117 radar cross section pole model, the AF asserted. + +After checking out a reported near-miss between a commercial airliner and an +unusual supersonic aircraft last year, the AF couldn't find a military plane +that would have been in the area, and "based on our investigation, we can +unequivocally state that no military aircraft was involved in this incident." + +The AF also said that some "sightings" of the mystery plane "will probably +remain unchallenged simply because there is not enough information available +to even hazard a guess." In this category the service places reports of a +wedge-shaped plane over the North Sea in October 1989 and "puffs" of smoke +resembling "doughnuts on a rope."" + +While the hypersonic "Aurora" is not a reality, sources and independent +evidence suggest that the AF may indeed operate secret aircraft unfamiliar +to the general public. The Skunk Works, for example, routinely accounts for +more work in Lockheed's annual report than can be accounted for by overt, +or "white" programs. But these would not, as Rice said, "come close to" +the performance attributed to "Aurora". + +The Pentagon revealed the existence of one of these aircraft in a synopsis +of a classified Inspector General audit released last year. The IG is +required to summarize audits that it isn't permitted to publish. + +The audit, labeled simply "Report No. 92-110 - Top Secret," was ordered "to +determine if the Program was responsive to contingency requirements and to +evaluate the overall management of the peacetime program." + +The synopsis described "the Program" as needing "improvements ... in +procedures for transitioning from peacetime (to wartime) operations and for +approving peacetime reconnaissance flights." In addition, it said that +"the Air Force budget for one aircraft type was overstated by $14.4 +million for the six-year period ending in FY 1997." + +Pressed repeatedly to explain this secret aircraft, since it would, at +first glance, suggest an "Aurora," a Pentagon official would only advise +the questioner to "think lower-tech." + +---------------- +end + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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There have been reports of +Auroras flying from Nellis AFB's Area 51 (Watertown Strip) in Groom Dry Lake, +Nevada. + The Aurora's top spedd is said to be 3,800 miles per hour or more and +cruise range 5,750 miles. Operational altitude is between 100,000 and 150,000 +feet. With those performance figures, it is likely that the Aurora is intended +to replace the aging fleet of Lockheed SR-71 strategic reconnaissance aircraft. + The disclosure of the Aurora Mach 5 stealth spy aircraft was apparently +made by mistake by the DoD in its 1985 defense budget proposal. One budget +document, with the title "Air Breathing Reconnaissance," contained a passing +reference to the Lockheed SR-71 spy plane. This was followed by lines that +referred to the SR-71's replacement, with the program code name of AURORA. + Accorcording to reports from various aviation authorities, since 1980, +Lockheed and the USAF have been testing a Mach 6 hypersonic research, air- +breathing, manned aircraft from the secret test range on Area 51. These +reports also state that the Aurora aircraft stemmed from that research program. + During mid-1987 congressional hearings, information about AURORA was +nearly leaked, but only scant details of the program are known to the public. +The Air Force has begun reducing the operational number of SR-71s in inventory +during the past few years, so observers of stealth aircraft knew something was +up. Air Force Secretary Edward Aldridge explained that SR-71 retirements were +simply a result of the expense of operating the Blackbird, but he also admitted +that the Air Force is interested in developing a manned reconnaissance aircraft +incorporating low-observable technology. The Aurora could be the aircraft +sought by the Air Force as an SR-71 replacement. + The Mach 5.8 Aurora's engines run on liquid methane. After taking off +from Watertown Strip and refueling once in flight, the Aurora reportedly can +cross the Pacific Ocean nonstop in 2.5 hours. A modified KC-10 or KC-135 +tanker aircraft is said to be used for inflight refueling of the Aurora. + The AURORA program was allocated $2.3 billion in 1985. One report +stated that there are 25 of the secret hypersonic spy planes already operation- +al from Tonapah Base Area 30 in Nevada. + +------------------------ + +The Aurora line item in the P-1 document doesn't say anything about Lockheed. +The Lockheed tie-in was made later in a magazine (I don't have it handy, but +I probably have it somewhere in my stacks). If I recall, the article said +something about a cancelled Lockheed high-speed vehicle concept, that was named +Aurora, or it may have been a quote of an ex-Lockheed person saying that there +once was a high-speed aircraft project that had been cancelled, that they had +called Aurora. It sounded to me like a comment to kill the speculation of the +time about Aurora. + +By the way, here is a reproduction of the appropriate page of that famous +'Aurora' reference. It comes from the following document: + +Cover: + + PROCUREMENT PROGRAMS (P-1) + Department of Defense Budget For Fiscal Year 1986 + + February 4, 1985 + +On page F-5 you see the following: + + UNCLASSIFIED + + Department Of The Air Force + FY 1986 Procurement +Program Exhibit P-1 + +Appropriation: 3010 F Aircraft Procurement, Air Force Date: 04, Feb 1985 +------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +- --------------------------------------------- + Millions Of Dollars + (Dollars) --------------------------- +-------------------------------------------- S +Line Ident FY 1986 -----FY 1984---- -----FY +1985---- -----FY 1986---- -----FY 1987----- E +No Item Nomenclature Code Unit Cost Quantity Cost Quantity + Cost Quantity Cost Quantity Cost O + ----- --------- -------- ------- -------- + +----- -------- ----- -------- ------ - +Other Aircraft + + 28 AURORA B 80.1 2272.4 U + + 29 TR-1/U-2 A 44,050,000 6 (164.1) 4 +(185.6) 8 (352.4) 2 (110.0)U + Less: Advance Procurement (PY) (-8.4) (-16.7) + (-8.5) + ------- ------ + ------ ------ + 155.7 168.9 + 343.9 110.0 + +30 TR-1/U-2 + Advance Procurement (CY) 16.7 8.5 + U + ------- ------ + ------ ------ + +Total Other Aircraft 172.4 219.8 + 540.0 2707.1 + + +Page F-4 had a major heading that the 'Other Aircraft' category appeared +under... 'Airbreathing Reconnaissance' You will also notice that the totals +for 'Other Aircraft' don't add-up in all columns. They do in FY 1984, but not +afterwards. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3106.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3106.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e02fe2b5 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3106.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@ +SUBJECT: THIS ONE IS WILD !! FILE: UFO3106 + + + + + + +This one is WILD!! (i'm not yet 100% sure of it's accuracy though) + +From: Intercepts Newsletter (Dec/Jan 92-93) + +The following transmission was made in the clear (unscrambled) +Frequency: 6.812 MHz USB (Mystic Star) +Time: 2310 Zulu +Date: 12-10-92 + +(Note: Mystic Star is a worldwide network used by USAF aircraft +transporting heads-of-state, military VIPs, and it is also used by +Air Force One.) + +A general placed a phone-patch from SAM (Special Air Mission) 204 +through Andrews, AFB to "AF public relations". Aurora was discussed. +The general quoted an article in the "Post" as well as the previous +article in "Jane's". + +The general said "It is almost laughable the number of hokey inputs +they had - it's kind of similar to the UFO flap. We need to develop +a release in response to inquiries. The guts of this should be that +we've looked at the technical aspects of the sightings and what the +logical answers for them are. You can quote Dr. Mori and site the +Lincoln lab physics and the FAA's efforts to debunk other incidents. +Most of the sightings were accounted for in a Q&A yesterday in a +media available press release. Go through three or four of the +sightings, take each one on and conclude with a paragraph that +says the fantasy of Aurora doesn't exist." + +They went on to discuss the sighting in the North Sea from an oil +drilling platform. "Someone saw something accompanied by three +F-111s. The secretary wants us to talk with McMann and say it was +an F-117. I'll get together with Alex - write up a memo to the +Chief or the Secretary". + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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"The evidence +has grown overwhelming-all we need now is a photograph to prove that +it exists." + Beaver quoted the report as saying the $1 billion plane, dubbed +Aurora, could reachcruising speeds of Mach-8 - or 5,280 mph, more +than 2 1/2 times the official world record. + The defense establishment continues to deny the existence of +Aurora, he said. + Chris Hudson, 30, a trained aircraft observer, told Jane's that +while working as an oil-drilling engineer in the North Sea in 1989 +he saw a bizarre wedge shaped plane flying between two F-111 +fighter-bombers and a Hercules tanker. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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A startling disclosure came recently when +Chris Gibson, a British oil engineer and highly trained aircraft-spotter, +produced a sketch that captured the shape and size of an unusual aircraft +he saw during daylight hours in August 1989, flying over his drilling rig +in the North Sea. The expert eye witness's drawing is the keystone that, +with other evidence, provides an understanding of a secret hypersonic +reconnaisance aircraft that is widely rumored to exist, but routinely +denied by U.S. officials. It's nickname Aurora. + +Gibson - a former member of the disbanded Royal Observer corps, a group of +volunteer aircraft spotters was able to estimate the strange airplane's +length and width by comparing it with the known dimensions of the +K-135 refueling tanker and two F-111 bombers flying alongside. +But it wasn't until last year, when he came across a magazine illustration +of a hypersonic (faster than Mach 5) aircraft design, that Gibson suddenly +made sense of the sharp triangular silhouette he saw. + +Gibson's North Sea sighting completes a puzzle that has obsessed military +aircraft analysts for several years. Consider the following pieces of +evidence hinting at the existence of something unacknowledged that flies +high and fast. + +In February 1990, the Air Force retired its SR-71 spy planes. +The official reason was saving $200 - $300 million a year it costs to +operate the fleet of Blackbirds. Reporters were told that the SR-71's +role had been take over by advanced spy satellites. + +The Air Force actually discouraged congressional attempts to reverse +this termination of its most glamorous aircraft mission. Never in its +history has the Air Force walked away from a manned mission without a fight. + +The pace of activity at the Air Force's top-secret Groom Lake test site +in the Nevada desert has increased dramatically in recent years, suggesting +the presence there of one or more secret aircraft programs. by comparing +recent photos of the base with ones taken in the 1970's, it's apparent that +several large new buildings were added during the 1980's. Always visible +in the recent pictures are a number of chartered Boeing 737 airliners that +ferry workers in from other defense industry towns such as Palmdale, +Burbank, or Edwards in Southern California, or from Nellis Air Force Base +in Nevada. + +Since mid-1991, enexplained sonic booms have periodically rattled +Southern California. Officials at the United States Geological Survey, +the agency that monitors earthquake activity, no doubt irked the military +with their public statements that a very fast, high-flying aircraft was +causing the "airquakes" registering on their array of seismographs. + +The Federation of American Scientists, a private Washington, D.C. based +policy group, issued a report late last year on the likelihood that +unacknowledged military aircraft might exist. The cautious review of +unclassified literature on the subject concluded that several new types of +aircraft may indeed be covertly flying around. + +In a 1985 Pentagon budget document requesting production funds for 1987, +a censor's slip let the line item "Aurora" appear, grouped with the +SR-71 and U-2 programs. Even if Aurora actually was the prjects name +at the time, it almost certainly would have been changed after being thus +compromised; "Senior Citizen" is one new label that has been reported. +rated by the Pentagon as an "unacknowledged special-access program," the +plane's existence and real name secret, and therefore deniable. + +Gibson's sighting now makes it possible to reconstruct the Aurora program +history. the spy plane was operational, or nearly so, by August 1989, just +before the Air Force parked its SR-71's for the last time. Aurora would +have made its first flight by 1986 at the latest, following the development +effort that was launched in 1981. This analysis elicited denials by high +officials involved in defense and intelligence matters. + + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3109.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3109.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4077452e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3109.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +SUBJECT: NEW SPY PLANE FLIES EIGHT TIMES THE SPEED OF SOUND FILE: UFO3109 + + + + + + +Copyright 1992. The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. + + NEW YORK (AP) -- For years, the United States may have been operating +secret +new spy planes that fly as fast as eight times the speed of sound, according +to +published reports. + The $1 billion jet would be superior to the record-holding SR-71 spy plane +now being used globally, according to an article prepared for Jane's Defence +Weekly, a British military-affairs journal, and cited in The Wall Street +Journal +on Friday. + But an Air Force spokesman denied Saturday that the service is working on +a +replacement for the SR-71, as the author of the Jane's article claims. + The speculation surrounding the alleged new plane is based partly on a +trained aircraft observer's reported sighting of a wedge-shaped aircraft +flying +over the North Sea, the Journal quotes Jane's as saying. + The mysterious plane reportedly was flying in formation with two +U.S.-built +F-111 bombers. + The observer was Chris Gibson, a British oil-drilling engineer and +aircraft +spotter, who told Jane's he saw the plane more than three years ago for +about 90 +seconds from a North Sea oil rig, according to the Journal. He reportedly +later +saw a drawing of a design in an aircraft magazine that had a similar triangle +shape and didn't match any other known aircraft. + Bill Sweetman, the stealth technology expert who wrote the Jane's story, +says +he believes the sighting is the missing link in a chain of events that +explains +a number of U.S. military developments, according to the Journal. + Sweetman says Lockheed Corporation may have developed the faster +reconnaissance plane to replace its SR-71 Blackbird after the United States +took +the latter out of service in early 1990. + Lockheed spokesman Richard Stadler said the company won't comment on any +secret programs it may have, but in the past the company has produced U.S. +spy +planes long before it acknowledged their existence. + "The Air Force has no follow-on program for the SR-71," Air Force +spokesman +Lt. Col. Mike Gannon said Saturday night. "This story keeps coming back every +two or three months, but we do not have a program as described there." + Since the SR-71 was taken out of service, the United States has met its +reconaissance needs through other, non-aircraft, means, Gannon said. + The Jane's report says the engines are built by Rockwell International +Corp.'s Rocketdyne Division. But a company spokesman not named by the +newspaper +denied the company builds engines for reconnaissance planes. + The SR-71 holds the official speed record of 2,193 mph, compared to the +estimated 5,280 mph of the model Sweetman speculates flew over the North +Sea. + Jane's suggests that the new plane -- rumored to be called Aurora because +that name appeared in an unexplained defense budget line next to the SR-71 -- +costs about $1 billion and first flew in about 1985, the Journal says. + The development of the "Aurora" may be the reason why the United States +retired its last SR-71 in 1990, explaining that it would rely instead on +satellites for reconnaissance. + The Jane's report also suggests that the high-tech spy plane may have been +responsible for a series of earthquake-like rumbles detected in southern +California and other parts of the world. + +(presented without permission for research purposes only) + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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"The evidence + has grown overwhelming - all we need now is a photograph to prove + that it exists." + Beaver quoted the report as saying that the $1 billion plane, + dubbed Aurora, could reach cruising speeds as great as Mach- 8 - or + 5,280 mph and more than 2 1/2 times the official world record. + The defense establishment continues to deny the existence of + Aurora, be said. + There was no immediate comment from Pentagon officials in + Washington. + The Pentagon announced in 1990 that it was retiring its super- + sonic spy plane, the SR-7l Blackbird, and would rely for its future + high-altitude surveillance on orbiting satellites. + But Jane's technical editor, Bill Sweetman, who compiled the + article, reported that the so-called "hypersonic" Aurora operates + mainly at night and incorporates the latest radar-evading "stealth" + technology. + Sweetman, an expert in high-technology aircraft, maintained + the Pentagon story about satellite spying was a smokescreen. + Beaver said Sweetman reported extensively on the U.S. Air Force's + stealth fighter and bomber programs before they were made public + and has written a book on the development of stealth technology. + A Mach-8 plane would be able to reach any point on the globe + in less than three hours. + Such a plane, fueled by liquid methane, would be of potentially + greater use than high-resolution images from orbiting satellites + that can take 24 hours to arrive over the subject, the report said. + Beaver said Sweetman based his conclusions on pieced-together + data, including strange sounds reported above air bases in Nevada + and California, multibillion dollar spending on classified research + projects and the sighting over the North Sea of a wedge-shaped + aircraft under fighter-bomber escort. + Chris Hudson, 30, a trained aircraft observer, told Jane's that + while working as an oil-drilling engineer in the North Sea in 1989 + he saw a bizarre wedge-shaped plane flying between two conventional + F-111 fighter-bombers and a Hercules tanker. + Sweetman believes this was the first sighting of Aurora. + Beaver said the sighting can be linked to mysterious sounds heard + by aerospace professionals near military airfields in California + and Nevada that are characterized as a "low-frequency, high-ampli- + tude pulsing." + Sweetman said in his article that he believes the U.S. aero- + space giant Lockheed, which produced the F-117 stealth fighter, is the most +likely manufacturer of Aurora. + "Lockheed's financial figures have indicated a continuing, large + flow of income for 'classified' and 'special mission' aircraft," he + wrote. + The Lockheed Advanced Development Co. developed the previous + generations of U-2 and SR-71 Blackbird spy planes. Both designs + flew high-altitude spy missions undetected for years - in the U-2's + case until Francis Gary Powers was shot down over Russia and + captured in 1960. + Though the report places Aurora's first flights in 1989, Beaver + said he considered it unlikely that the plane was used during the + Gulf War. + --------- + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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The description does not fit any know aircraft. + +....Pentegon spokesman Lt. Col. Dave Garner denied the mystery aircraft was +part of a "black" military project. + "That wasn't onw of ours -- not to suggest we have black programs," Garner +said. + +[More things deleted] + +....The FAA says it does not plan an investigation, in part because no one +will admit operating or owning the mysterious aircraft. + + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3113.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3113.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e572ad9a --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3113.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,170 @@ +SUBJECT: PLANE HITS 5,500 MILES AN HOUR FILE: UFO3113 + + + + + +Plane Mystery Gains Speed, Hits 5,500 Miles an Hour +By John Mintz +Washington Post Staff Writer + +Mysterious rumblings in the California desert, staggeringly swift bright +lights in the night skies over Nevada, a strange whooshing roar over +Scotland and unex- plained entries on Lockheed Corp.'s financial books all +have an explanation, some aerospace enthusiasts say: + +The United States is developing a supersecret spy plane. + +Defense Department officials have denied it for years, and members of +Congress who presumably would know say it's not so. + +But there is a growing consensus in the subculture of mystery +aircraft-watchers - not loonies who talk of Venusian visitations, but +defense industry journal- ists, market analysts and engineers - that the +Pentagon is testing a new gener- ation of ultra-fast aircraft that can +travel up to Mach 8, eight times the speed of sound, or about 5,500 miles +per hour. The world speed record is Mach 3.2. + +These scientists and obsessed individuals for years have trafficked in the +latest news of sightings of things zooming around secret installations such +as Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, puffs of smoke resembling "donuts on a +rope" and word of radio transmissions to unknown craft landing in +California. They even count cars in the parking lots of California defense +contractors to devine whether a company's known projects could account for +all the employees there. + +Now comes a new report in a defense industry publication throwing in with +the speculators: Britain's Jane's Defence Weekly carried an article this +week specu- lating that the U.S. Air Force has a secret fleet of new spy +aircraft. This next-generation plane, according to the report, has a +liquid-methane engine that is halfway between a rocket's and a jet plane's, +costs $1 billion each and is a follow-on to the SR-71 Blackbird, a +venerable spy-in-the-sky retired in 1990 after 28 years of service. + +The Jane's article, by veteran aviation writer Bill Sweetman, recounted an +intriguing development: a British oil drilling engineer named Chris Gibson +said that in 1989, while aboard a North Sea drilling rig, he spotted an +arrowhead- shaped plane he had never seen before streaking across the sky. +Gibson, an experienced aircraft observer, kept the sighting to himself +until recently, when he sketched the mystery craft for Jane's. The drawing +looks like others in Aviation Week and similar industry publications that +for years have speculated there is a successor to the SR-71. + +Other experts say that if such a craft were indeed flying over the North +Sea, it could buttress the idea that such a plane is "operational," meaning +it has gone beyond the prototype and test stages. But some analysts point +out that at the speeds at which the new plane is thought to fly, it would +be difficut to restrict a test drive to U.S. airspace. A hypersonic trip +from California to Japan would take only an hour, and nowhere on the planet +would be more than three hours away. + +"A mysterious, fast-moving shape in the sky has been scaring sheep in the +Mull of Kintyre (Scotland) and rattling windows in Los Angeles," said a +July article in London's Sunday Telegraph asserting the existence of a new +hypersonic air- craft. At night it visits a secure Scottish airfield +guarded by U.S. Navy SEALs, "before stealthily streaking back to America +across the North Pole," the paper said. + +Jane's said it believes the spy plane has been flying tests since about +1985 and has been operational since 1989. + +Air Force officials have denied such reports for years, with more +pointedness than the "I-have-nothing-for-you-on-that" nondenial denials +used in reply to queries about other classified subjects. "The Air Force +has no such program, period," said Capt. Monica Aloisio, an Air Force +spokeswoman. Yesterday she also denied a suggestion in Jane's that the Air +Force would lie to cover up the secret plane. "Air Force public affairs +doesn't knowingly participate in any disinformation programs," she said. + +But Sen. John Glenn (D-Ohio), a member of the Armed Services Committee who +led congressional opposition to retiring the SR-71, said this week that the +Pentagon's trickiness in denying secret programs over the years gives +people pause. So with each flurry of reports like the one in Jane's, he +calls the CIA and senior Defense Department officials "to make sure I +wasn't being hung out to dry." + +"They answer me from all quarters there is no such program," Glenn said. +"Everybody in CIA swears up and down there's no such program. I think +they're telling me the truth." + +He said he used to wonder about those denials, because the Air Force's 1990 +retirement of the SR-71 did not make sense. Air Force officials said +satellites are more cost-effective for reconnaissance, but Glenn said +planes such as the SR-71 are far superior. Spy planes, he said, are more +maneuverable and can get to a target more quickly than satellites. Further, +an adversary can often calcu- late when a satellite is making its +once-every-few-hours sweeps and hide secrets on the ground. "The only way +doing away with the '71 made sense," Glenn said in an interview this week, +"was if you had a (spy plane) follow-on," which the Air Force has always +denied. + +Glenn said he was also intrigued by the suggestion in the Jane's article +that the supposed new plane is so secret that Defense Secretary Richard B. +Cheney has designated it a "waived program," meaning only the chairmen and +the ranking minority members of the House and Senate military committees +would have been told of its existence. If true, Glenn is being kept in the +dark by his own committee chairman, Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.). + +Glenn said he called Nunn's staff this week and was told Nunn has not +misled him on the subject. Glenn said that under the Senate's "rules of +engagement," a direct question to a colleague must be answered straight. + +There are other indications suggesting there is no new spy plane. + +In the 1991 Persian Gulf War, for instance, field commanders were +distressed at what they believed was inadequate photo reconnaissance by +U.S. satellites and the some subsonic spy aircraft. The Pentagon considered +reactivating the SR-71, but rejected it, government officials said. + +"If they'd had this (new spy plane) operational," said William E. Burrows, +author of a 1987 book entitled "Deep Black: Space Espionage & National +Security" about space-based military projects, "they would have used it" in +the gulf. + +Ernest Blazar, who is writing a book on the SR-71, said industry sources +told him the Pentagon planned a second-generation Blackbird that died in +1990 when the SR-71 was withdrawn from service. + +John Pike, director of a space policy project for the Federation of +American Scientists, a nonprofit research group that favors disarmament and +opposes government secrecy, contends as do other nongovernment experts that +secret airplanes may exist but may have multiple missions operating as, +say, spy planes and spacelaunch vehicles. + +Speculation about a possible successor to the SR-71 heated up in 1984, when +an entry in the defense budget mentioned a $2 billion, two-year "Aurora" +project. Pentagon officials said it was not a spy plane, but journalists +became suspicious when, a year later, "the Aurora line item vanished as +mysteriously as it had first appeared," said a report by the Federation of +American Scientists. Jane's still uses that name for the supposed project, +but Blazar said if a new spy plane exists, it would be code-named "Senior +Citizen." + +A number of Wall Street defense industry analysts have said for years they +think Lockheed - which built the SR-71 - and other companies are involved +in the spy plane business because Pentagon money going to the firms does +not square with the aircraft work the companies acknowledge. A Lockheed +spokesman referred questions about the matter to the Pentagon. + +Proponents of the spy plane theory also cite earth rumblings in southern +California that some U.S. Geological Survey scientists have speculated are +sonic booms caused by unknown aircraft. There have been eight such booms in +the last 18 months, all on Thursdays between 6 a.m. and 7 a.m. In a 94-page +report pub- lished in August, the federation said "a certain measure of +agnosticism contin- ues to be appropriate" in discussing mystery aircraft. +The report noted that in recent years, as the number of sightings of +supposed secret Pentagon aircraft increased dramatically in the western +United States, sightings of unidentified flying objects also rose there. +Both groups of eyewitnesses typically cite bright lights in the sky or +strange noises, the report said. + +"The number of reports (of mystery aircraft) and their consistency suggest +that there may be some basis for these sightings other than hallucinogenic +drugs," the report said. But it warned: "There is no exit from this +wilderness of mirrors." + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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Emergency officials in Raleigh + and Fayette counties are investigating, said Scott Tygrett, + a dispatcher for the Fayette County sheriff's office. + Brian Fox, a disc jockey at WJLS radio in Beckley, said + he had 400-500 calls from Raleigh, Fayette, Summers, + Greenbrier, Boone and Wyoming counties. + "A lot of people are saying it shook their whole house, + that it felt like a wave coming through," Fox said. + John Price, news director at Oak Hill TV station WOAY-TV, + said dozens of calls began coming in shortly after 6:30 PM + (EST). + John Minsch, a geophysicist with the US Geological + Survey, said the disturbance could have been a sonic boom, + which he said often is mistaken for an earthquake. + "I didn't see a thing that looked like an earthquake," he + said. + Federal Aviation Administration officials in Charleston + said they received no reports of a sonic boom in southern + West Virginia. + Steve Webber, director of the state's Office of Miners' + Health, Safety and Training, said his agency had received no + reports of any mine accidents that might account for the + noise and shaking. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3115.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3115.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4b45414c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3115.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@ +SUBJECT: NEW 'PULSER' SIGHTINGS FILE: UFO3115 + + + + + +NEW 'PULSER' SIGHTINGS + +"Donuts-on-a-rope" contrails produced by an unknown high-speed, +high-altitude aircraft have been reported throughout the U.S. +and Europe, suggesting the classified "pulser" is no longer +confined to a test range (AW&ST May 11, p.62).In late January, +a similar contrail--described as a "coiled spring"--was seen +over Scotland behind a very fast aircraft flying east to west. +The distinctive contrails have been spotted during daylight hours +over Portland, Ore.; Washington Dulles International Airport, Va.; +Denver, Colo.; and Edwards AFB, Calif.Observers said the main +plume appeared to be connected directly to the aircraft, which +was so high its shape could not be determined.Typical jet +contrails become visible at some distance behind an aircraft as +moisture in the exhaust condenses. The pulser's rings or "donuts" +appeared to grow out of and encircle the plume a few seconds later. +Propulsion experts have suggested the "pulser" may be powered by +a ducted rocket, or a hybrid of a pulse detonation engine. + + +COMBINED CYCLE POWERPLANT + +"DOUGHNUTS ON A ROPE" contrails produced by unknown high-speed, +high-altitude aircraft may be the result of a Pratt & Whitney +powerplant program aimed at developing what the company calls +an "impulse motor". The engine is believed to be a combined +cycle powerplant that integrates conventional gas turbine and +rocket technologies. Such a powerplant would be capable of +operating from a ground takeoff up to speeds approaching Mach 6. + [ and of course that is the magic "Aurora" number! :-> ] + +The unusual contrail could be the result of running the powerplant +off its narrow design point, according to U.S. propulsion experts. +Officials have suggested that in the past, impulse engines have +been located at Edwards AFB, Calif., and at government facilities +at White Sands, N.M. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3116.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3116.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ea086dad --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3116.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,174 @@ +SUBJECT: AUTOPSY REPORT # 1 FILE: UFO3116 + + + + + + +SUBJECT: AUTOPSY REPORT # 1 +DATE: 7/14/47 +COPY ONE OF THREE + +INITIAL FINDINGS UPON EXAMINATION AND AUTOPSY OF THE BODY OF AN APPARENT ALIEN +CREATURE + +1. External Appearance + +This body was observed to be in a state of significant deterioration. It had +been preserved with formaldehyde solution but not otherwise dissected. + +The cadaver was 44 inches long with a weight of 27 pounds when the preservative +solution had been drained. + +The external appearance of this cadaver was of a human embryo with an enlarged +cranium. Hands and feet were normal. Fingers and toenails had been had been +pared. Fingerprints of a swirl-left pattern were observed and taken. All ten +fingers and toes were apparent. There was some vestigial webbing between first +and second fingers and toes. + +Sexual organs appeared to be those of a male. They were in an embryonic state +and revealed no evidence of pubescence. + +Ears were partially formed, and showed some evidence of surgical intervention. +Folds of skin had been drawn out from the surface of the scalp in an apparent +attempt to create the impression of a more fully developed ear than was actually +present. + +Lips were vestigial and the mouth contained no erupted teeth. The nose was also +in an incomplete state of growth and had also received surgical intervention, +resulting in what appeared to be a very thin a delicate organ. + +Eyes were distinguished by extensive surgical intervention. They were almond- +shaped and by far the most prominent facial feature. The eyeballs were not +matured and appeared to have been sutured with artificial lenses of an unknown +type. Because of their extremely unusual condition, dissection of these eyes was +not attempted. + +2. Dissection + +An incision was made from the thorax to the scrotum. The skin was first extended +from the fascia and the fascia was observed to be consistent with the appearance +of an immature human male. The fascia were then dissected and the internal +organs were observed. The position of the heart was observed to be vertical, as +would be consistent with a very early fetus, prior to the fourth month. The +organ was prominent and was weighed to be 1/70th of the mass of the body. When +the organ was dissected it was found that there was direct communication between +the two auricles through the formen ovale. The Eustachian valve was observed to +be large. A ductus arteriosus was observed to communicate between the pulmonary +artery and the descending aorta. This ductus opened into the descending aorta +just below the origin of the left subclavian artery. + +Alterations in the structure of the circulatory system suggested that this body +had been surgically corrected to detach it from placental dependence in an +artificial manner. The stomach was opened and found to be free of any food +substances. The cardiac orifice was apparently atrophied, although the +deterioration of the corpus made this difficult to determine. It is possible +that this individual did not eat. + +The liver was prominent and it was clear that the blood of the umbilical vein +would traverse it before entering the inferior cava. The umbilical vein itself +had been severed of its placental crown and returned to the circulatory system +by a means that was beyond the scope of this dissection to establish. + +The lungs were not developed. There were lateral pouches on either side of the +central diverticulum, open through into the pharynx. The larynx was somewhat +cartilaginous and the trachea was developed. + +It is probable that this individual did not breathe and more than he ate. The +means of sustaining life is unknown, if he was ever alive in any practical sense. + +The cranium was dissected and it was found that the skull was formed of +exceptionally thin and pliant cartilaginous material, appearing to be bone +precursor that had been affected in some manner, making it more than usually thin +and delicate. The brain itself was extensively and surprisingly formed. There +was an unknown cortex superimposed on the forebrain and extending as far back as +the fissure of Ralando. + +Because of this extraordinary formation it was decided not to pursue dissection +of the brain at this time. The organ was extracted and placed in fluid +preservation pending further study. + +Overall, this corpus presented the appearance of a human embryo of three to four +months duration that had been the subject of considerable alteration and +modification, some of it obviously surgical. Other modifications, such as that +of the brain, were harder to understand. In addition to the alterations, there +was the matter of the size of the body and the relatively mature condition of the +epidermis and nails. It would appear that this fetus was separated from its +mother and brought to a semi-functional state by artificial means. + +3. Conclusion + +This is a human fetus that has been subjected to forced maturation without normal +gestation. Its degree of functionality while living if it ever was alive is +unknown. + + TOP SECRET MAJIC + + +SUBJECT: AUTOPSY REPORT # 2 +DATE: 7/14/47 +COPY ONE OF THREE + +INITIAL FINDINGS UPON EXAMINATION +AND AUTOPSY OF THE BODY OF AN +APPARENT ALIEN CREATURE + +1. External Appearance + +This body was observed to be in a state of profound deterioration. It had not +been preserved but was delivered in a container of rubberized canvas, to which +some of the tissue had adhered. The cadaver was 36 inches long with a weight of +8 pounds. The external appearance of this cadaver was not of a human type. + +The skin appeared smooth and a dark bluish-gray in color. There was no clothing +on the body. There were no genitals and no was of determining sex, if any. The +nose consisted of two slits, the mouth was a small opening that did not appear +to be supported by an articulated law, and there were holes in the position of +ears. The cranium was round and large in proportion to the body and the eyes +were almond-shaped. The eyes were closed and could not be opened without +damaging structures, due to condition of decaying tissue. + +Arms and wrists were very thin. The hands displayed a three-digit arrangement +without thumb. The arms extended to approximately three inches above the knee. +The three fingers extended directly from the wrist, with no palm. + +2. Dissection + +The body was opened from crotch to chin. A green liquid emerged from the +incision. The skin was not backed by fascia, and the bone structure appeared to +be a cartilaginous substance of light green-blue color. + +Internal organs were observed but their function was unclear. The thoracic and +peritoneal cavities communicated and there appeared to be no respiratory system +and no stomach. The esophagus was vestigial and dissipated before reaching +another organ. + +There appeared to be two multi-chambered hearts and it was surmised that body +fluid could be pumped rapidly. There was an extensive circulatory system that +involved three different types of vein. Some material was extracted from one of +these systems and suggested possible waste, leading to the notion that waste may +have been exuded through the skin. + +The fluid removed from the body was analyzed under the microscope and found to +be a vegetable substance, chlorophyll-based. It is possible that photosynthesis +was the means of obtaining energy. + +The cranium was dissected and it was observed that a ridge of cartilage separated +the brain into two completely isolated components. The brain was severely +deteriorated, but appeared to be extensively fissured and divided into numerous +lobes. Because of the deterioration the degree of bilateralism of the two halves +could not be determined with any accuracy. + +This cadaver exuded an unusually foul odor. + +3. Conclusion + +This is not a cadaver of a kind previously observed by or known to this +pathologist. It appears to be a form of creature utilizing elements of both the +animal and vegetable. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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The output + from a 2KW microwave oven was attached to a TUBE OF COPPER WIRE MESH + which then served as an OPEN WAVEGUIDE. + + When the oven was turned on, the tube produced a glowing ball 2 to 3 + centimeters in diameter that floated along the mesh for nearly 2 + minutes. + + During this period, the ball was seen to change from white to a + dazzling orange. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + Vangard notes... + + Researchers in the field of ball energy no doubt are aware of + the accidental generation of ball lightning onboard submarines. + + Relays used on subs have contacts which have a downward curve on + the end which opens. The idea is to quench the intense + electrical arc which helps to reduce the life of the contacts. + + This type of contact acts as a sort of waveguide to "shape" the + high intensity electrical field (no doubt having metal residue + in addition to carbon) into the shape of a sphere. + + The description of the antics which the submarine ball lightning + carried out are very similar. A spherical waveguide would be a + much more logical means of generating a 3 dimensional sphere + which, with sufficient velocity, could be thrown off the end of + the tube. + + KeelyNet users are referred to the file NAZI1.ASC for more + + Page 1 + + + + + + information on the Kugelblitz and Feurball fighters developed by + the Germans prior to the end of WWII. + + In addition, you might find the article by Larry Spring + interesting which is entitled SPHERE1.ASC. It deals with + Larry's discovery that all propagating waves take the form of a + sphere. + + We will keep you informed of anything else we find since this + subject will eventually lead to a form of levitation much akin + to the Kugelblitz technology which disappeared at the end of + WWII. + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + If you have comments or other information relating to such topics as + this paper covers, please upload to KeelyNet or send to the Vangard + Sciences address as listed on the first page. Thank you for your + consideration, interest and support. + + Jerry W. Decker.........Ron Barker...........Chuck Henderson + Vangard Sciences/KeelyNet + + -------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Page 2 + + diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3118.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3118.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3b610d21 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3118.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ + +SUBJECT: GREAT BALLS OF STEAM FILE: UFO3118 + + + + + + +** Courtesy of David Bloomberg ** +======================================================================== + +GREAT BALLS OF STEAM + +by Carl Zimmer + +Source: Discover Magazine, July 1993 + + +David Turner does mostly bread-and-butter chemistry. The University of +Bristol researcher is an expert on steam turbines, and he can, among other +things, describe the conditions inside nuclear reactor turbines and the +possible hazards of an explosion. But recently Turner realized that his +work could help solve a more exotic puzzle. The peculiar chemistry of steam +could help explain a strange weather phenomenon known as ball lightning. + +Over the past 200 years there have been thousands of reports of people +seeing these globes of light. The glowing grapefruit-size spheres seem +almost alive, floating down the aisles of passenger planes, gliding down +chimneys, dodging objects in their path. When ball lightning passes close +to people, they claim not to feel any heat, and yet apparently it can +melt a hole in a glass window. It lives for a few seconds or minutes and +then either fades away or explodes. + +Many explanations have been advanced for ball lightning, including some +from the esoteric frontiers of science. Perhaps a nugget of antimatter +lies at the heart of ball lightning, some researchers have suggested, or a +magnetic monopole-a particle predicted by theoretical physics but never +seen. Or perhaps a lightning ball is a natural nuclear fusion reactor whose +energy we could somehow harness. But the most popular theory of late has +been the tamest one; it holds that ball lightning arises from unusual con- +ditions in the same thunderstorms that create ordinary lightning bolts. + +In a thunderstorm, an intense electric field between the positively charged +ground and the negatively charged cloud excites air molecules, causing them +to lose eIectrons and become charged ions. A bolt of lightning further +energizes the molecules until they become a plasma- a soup of hot, charged +molecules and electrons. Perhaps, researchers have suggested, the +electric or magnetic field created by a small lump of plasma could trap +it in the shape of a ball. Short-lived plasma fireballs have even been +created in laboratory experiments, giving the idea some support. + +Yet the plasma model has its drawbacks. A hot ball of gas shouldn't keep +close to the ground the way ball lightning does; it should rise like a he- +lium balloon, quickly dissipating its heat until it vanishes. + +What's more, the reports that ball lightning has a cool surface make no +sense at all if it is a fireball. + +But those reports, Turner says-indeed, all the commonly reported traits +of ball lightning-fit nicely into the new model he has proposed. In +Turner's model, ball lightning is a reactor, but not a fusion reactor. It +is a floating, self-sustaining chemical reactor, in which certain +chemical reactions between the plasma and the surrounding air release heat +and others absorb it. As a result, instead of simply dissipating into the +air, the initial heat of the plasma gets recycled back into the blazing +interior of the ball, while the outside of the ball becomes a cool, wa- +tery skin. + +The ions making up the plasma, Turner says, fly around crazily, moving away +from the core of the the ball. Certain reactive ions, such as oxygen or +hydroxide (OH), combine almost immediately, forming stable compounds like +water or ozone and shedding their energy as heat and light. But three +kinds of ions are much more stable and don't combine so quickly. They are +positively charged hydrogen and negatively charged nitrites (NO2) and +nitrates (NO3). Their chemistry, in Turner's view, explains most of ball +lightning's properties. + +Traveling farther from the hot core into cooler air, these three types of +ions start attracting water molecuIes. (A water molecule has electric +poles; the side of the molecule that has the two hydrogens attached is +slightly positive, while the other side is negative.) As the water mole- +cules huddle around the ions, they condense to form liquid droplets. They +thereby surrender heat. Some of the nitrites-the least stable of the +three ions-react with some of the hydrogen to form nitrous acid and +release even more heat. These two reactions, condensation and combination, +keep the interior of the ball lightning hot. + +But the formation of nitrous acid is also what gives the ball its cold +skin. As nitrites travel farther from the core, the ones that still haven't +turned into nitrous acid keep gathering more water. From his previous +research into steam, Turner knew that swarms of water molecules can have +strange effects. If a nitrite is surrounded by six or more water +molecules, he calculates, it actually has to absorb energy from its sur- +roundings in order to combine with a hydrogen ion and create nitrous acid; +basically it needs the energy to push the water out of its way. Sucking in +heat, the nitrites now chill their surroundings instead of heating them. +Hence the cool skin. + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3119.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3119.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1718bf5b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3119.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,139 @@ +SUBJECT: SHOULD THE PUBLIC KNOW ALL ABOUT UFOs ? FILE: UFO3119 + + + + + + + + (The following article was published in Baltimore, Maryland in the March +2nd, 1993 Baltimore Sun newspaper:) + + + Should the government tell the public all it knows about UFOs? + by Tom Keyser, Staff writer + + The concept of life elsewhere in the universe-- visitors from space, UFOs, +extraterrestrials, aliens, tantalizes earthlings. Yet in the United States no +top government official has ever said publicly that such activity exists. + + "What's out there" consumes many researchers with sound academic and +professional credendials. Books and hundreds of papers on the subject have +been written, films have been made, and researchers meet occasionally to +discuss their opinions. + + One such meeting last month in Silver Spring dealt with the question of +U.S. government disclosure. Assuming that the government has evidence of UFOs +four specialists gave their answers forandagainst official government +acknowledgement of the reality of unidentified flying objects. + + Favoring government disclosurewere Bruce Maccabee, a civilian research +physicist for the Navy from Sabillasville who has long been a leader in UFO +research groups, and Elaine Douglass, director of the Washington Chapter of +the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). + + Tell the public all + + Dr.Maccabee: a large portion of human society either knows or suspects +that at least some of the things reported as UFOs are in fact alien craft. + The increased interest is beginning to have an impact on society in the +form of public speculation, both trivial and serious, about the activities +and the intent of the aliens. + + What is the true characteristization of the aliens? + In the absence of valid information, people speculate wildly. But the +government could end the wild speculation by releasing valid information-- +even if it released only part of the available information. + + Anyone who knows about the reality of identified alien craft (IACs) is +likely to agree with President Clinton's favorite song, which says, "I can't +stop thinking about tomorrow". + + When will the IAC problem bubble up to the surface? + Will The people be ready? + Will the shock stop civilization in its tracks? + Is it better to wait for something to happen that nobody has thought about +that drops on us like a load of bricks fropm above, or is it better to bite +the bullet now-- and make some kind of announcement that causes people to +start thinking about what's going on so that we'll be prepared? + + Ms.Douglass: The very worst outcome would be if the alien disclosed +itself and the government had stone-walled to the end. + So I ask our government: Do you want your own plan of disclosure, or the +aliens' plan? We get up one morning and turn on the TV and there's an alien +face and he says: People on Earth, be calm. + + Dr.Maccabee: The UFO problem has been nipping around the heels of our +civilization for the last 45 years or so. For most people it has been at the +bottom of the list of things to think about, ranking below such all-pressing +problems as "Will Di really get a divorce?". + The government should come clean. This could legitimize the subject for +study by leading thinkers of the human race. The top quantum mechanics, or the +relativistic theorists, or the top world philosophers don't discuss the +subject. Why? Well [the subject's left to] kooks and nuts like those guys +at a hotel in Silver Spring on Saturday Feb 6. + + Keep The Lid On + + Not all those interested in UFOs favor government disclosure of what's +known "officially". Their arguments were made at the Silver Spring conference +by Robert Durant, a commercial airline pilot and ex-Navy helicopter pilot +from Pennington, N.J., and Michael Levintow, a computer analyst from +Washington. Both are UFO researchers. + + Mr.Durant: We have collected a great mass of UFO sightings, photographs, +movies, videos, radar trackings, physical traces in recent decades. The +evidence is overwhelming. + But look at this thing from the eyes of the president of the United +States and his national security advisors. If the government releases its +files-- and the logical conclusion of those files-- the public will demand to +know not just the physics of the matter, but who the aliens are, where they +come from and why they are here. + The result would be chaos. The economic life of the country would be +paralyzed. there would be only one topic of discussion: The aliens. + + Mr.Levintow: In addition to the risk of generating social chaos, or even +public panic, a political firestorm wouyld most certainly build for the +government to expel the aliens. This would put the U.S. on a collision course +with space aliens, who appear to be vastly technologically superior to humans. + Why risk provoking such a confrontation, since nothing whatsoever is +gained by politicizing the UFO-extraterrestrial matter, quite possibly the +biggest secret of all time? + + Mr.Durant: You have had the luxury of slowly, over a period of many years, +absorbing the awesome secret that UFOs are real. But you want to hit the public +right between the eyes with this psychological bomb? We had the radio broad- +cast of "The War of the Worlds" in 1939 that caused a panic. Is this a +precedent we ought to pay attention to or not? + Mr. Durant: If we look historically at the UFO reports, they've mainly +been hit-and-run affairs. + Beginning in the 1980s, we've seen a shift to the long-duration, low-level, +multiple-witness sighting. The great risk is that we're going to have a +landing in a shopping mall someplace. + + Mr.Levintow: If the government makes an official statement, will that +legitimize it or simply lead to more controversy as to whether the government +is telling the truth, or whether it is simply more cover-ups and deceptions +on their part? + It may be impossible to legitimize the subject of UFOs and extra-ter +restrials, because it is such a radical departure from traditional modes of +thought that have prevailed for the last 2,000 years. + How can you legitimize as subject that is so latent with fear and anxiety +on the part of virtually every individual on this planet-- the prospect of +meeting a superior or more powerful intelligence that somehow came into +existence elsewhere in this universe? + The alien agenda is basically unknown to humans. From a cosmic standpoint, +they're clearly a superior force, and they have powers far in advance of +anything humans can muster at this point. + We really aren't in a position to do anything about it, because we don't +have the ability to control the situation. The aliens have control of the +agenda. It is their program. They proceed with it. + Those who are seriously interested in the subject can research until +their heart's content and learn all sorts of interesting things about UFOs +and ETs. + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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He said he felt the wind and heard the engine. ³o³ +³o³ "The copter was behind my back with a spotlight." Of ³o³ +³o³course, I had a 30-30 r@fle over my shoulder. They saw ³o³ +³o³me run to my truck " he said. ³o³ +³o³ "The cows were scared to death. One cow is real gentle ³o³ +³o³and we couldn't even get around her." ³o³ +³o³ A neighbor called the Marshall County Sheriff's ³o³ +³o³Department. The excitement scared the helicopter away, ³o³ +³o³Segers said. He said he saw what looked like red, ³o³ +³o³green, blue and white lights but couldn't make out the ³o³ +³o³color of the chopper. He said he also saw the sheriffs ³o³ +³o³helicopter much higher. The alleged mysterious ³o³ +³o³helicopter barely cleared power lines before getting ³o³ +³o³lower. ³o³ +³o³ "I wasn't scared, I was mad. They ³o³ +³o³would have gotten (a cow) that night" he said, ³o³ +³o³"The farmers, all of us, are going to have to pull ³o³ +³o³together and help one another out and do what we can to ³o³ +³o³help." ³o³ +³o³ Segers owns a slaughterhouse and said they kill ³o³ +³o³animals every day for people. ³o³ +³o³ "I don't see how in the world can they do it this ³o³ +³o³way," he said. ³o³ +³o³ Some farmers are using spotlights and patrolling ³o³ +³o³their land, he said. ³o³ +³o³ The animals weigh about 1,000 pounds and hold about 40 ³o³ +³o³pounds - or five gallons - of blood. Some residents say ³o³ +³o³helicopters make sense because it would give the killers ³o³ +³o³lifting abilities and would make it easier to take heavy ³o³ +³o³blood animal parts and cutting and pumping equipment ³o³ +³o³away from the scene. ³o³ +³o³ ³o³ +³o³ ³o³ +ÀÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÙ + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. 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He said he ³o³ +³o³has 30 head or about $12,000 in animals. ³o³ +³o³ He organized a network of victims and farmers and said ³o³ +³o³the group has been able to identify three turbine ³o³ +³o³helicopters in the area: ³o³ +³o³> Light blue and white with a big orange sun; ³o³ +³o³> dark blue; ³o³ +³o³> black ³o³ +³o³ "I think they're coming in from away from here," he ³o³ +³o³said. ³o³ +³o³ He also said he spotted a helicopter flying about 75 ³o³ +³o³feet above the Ford dealership in the fog. ³o³ +³o³ "Some of this stuff is real bizarre," he said. Some of ³o³ +³o³the animals were found with no rigor mortis and with ³o³ +³o³limber joints. ³o³ +³o³ According to mortician, J. Hammond Martin, animals and ³o³ +³o³humans are not stiff right after death but become stiff ³o³ +³o³later and then begin detcriorating - once again without ³o³ +³o³stifftness. ³o³ +³o³ Mr. and Mrs. James Denney lost two cows in 1991. They ³o³ +³o³said they believe satanic worshippers could be ³o³ +³o³responsible for the killing. The cows were worth about ³o³ +³o³$800 each and not insured. ³o³ +³o³ "We bought them on a Wednesday, they were killed the ³o³ +³o³next Sunday," Mrs. Denney said. One of the animals was ³o³ +³o³still warm and the calf was not hurt. ³o³ +³o³ The only known helicopters in Marshall County are the ³o³ +³o³two black county choppers, a blue and white Tennessee ³o³ +³o³Valley Authority helicopter and several helicopters ³o³ +³o³that fly military flights through the county. ³o³ +³o³ "I think whoever is doing this is doing it for a ³o³ +³o³party with mystique," deputy Bob Norwood said. He ³o³ +³o³doesn't think it would involve a true cult. "The true ³o³ +³o³meaning of the word cult is hidden. They don't want the ³o³ +³o³publicity. It's their own little party." ³o³ +ÀÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÙ + + + +********************************************************************* +* -------->>> THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo <<<------- * +********************************************************************* \ No newline at end of file