diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1369.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1369.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..bf141fc1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1369.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +SUBJECT: 02/87 SIGHTING IN JOLIET, IN. FILE: UFO1369 + + + Report #: 217 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 02-11-1987 + Subject: JOLIET, IL + +CASE TYPE: CE I + DATE: 9 FEBRUARY 1987 + TIME: 21:45 HOURS + CFN#: 0339 + DURATION: UNKNOWN +WITNESSES: TWO + SOURCE: NATIONAL UFO REPORTING CENTER +------------------------------------------------ + +Two witnesses reported observing a Unidentified Flying Object. + +The witnesses said the object looked like a big egg or oval shaped object and +stated it was as big as a small car. + +The witnesses stated that the object followed them for a long time going in +front of them at times and then going back behind again. + +They said the object then followed them all the way home at which time they +stop the car and ran in the house, the object then stop and hovered for a +while before it left the area. the distance the object followed them was +approximately or about 7 miles. + +The witnesses stated the colors coming from the object appeared to look to +them like gold and white. The total duration is unknown. This case could be +related to CFN#:0338 because the objects in both of theses cases were shaped +like an oval or egg shaped. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1370.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1370.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..446aa375 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1370.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +SUBJECT: 12/86 SIGHTING IN MEXICO CITY, MEXICO FILE: UFO1370 + + + + Report #: 218 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 02-15-1987 + Subject: MEXICO CITY, MEXICO + +CASE TYPE: LRS * - POSSIBLE RV + DATE: 16 DECEMBER 1986 + TIME: DAYTIME + CFN#: 0340 + DURATION: UNKNOWN +WITNESSES: MANY + SOURCE: POST, HOUSTON, TX - Dec, 18 1986 +------------------------------------------------ + +SEVERAL REPORT SPOTTING UFO IN MEXICO CITY + +Mexico City ( Reuter ) - Mexico City International Airport receiced dozens of +call reporting an UFO Unidentifird Flying Object over the Capital Tuesday, +the official Notimex News Agency reported Wednesday. + +The multi-colored object was making a faint buzzing noise as it rapidly +circled the city before shooting off at high speed, witnesses said. + +There was no word on the object's shape or on how long it was visible. +Notimex said the crew of a Pan American Airways jet also reported having seen +the object briefly. The agency said there have been other sightings over +Mexico City of unidentified flying objects in the past few years, one sighting +in the same place Nov. 2, 1973 over the capital. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1371.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1371.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ce427186 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1371.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +SUBJECT: 11/86 SIGHTING IN FT. MYERS, FL. FILE: UFO1371 + + + Report #: 219 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 02-15-1987 + Subject: FT.MYERS, FL + +CASE TYPE: LRS - NL + DATE: 27 NOVEMBER 1986 + TIME: 22:00 HOURS + CFN#: 0341 + DURATION: 15:MINUTES +WITNESSES: MANY + SOURCE: NEWS PRESS, FT MYERS, FL +---------------------------------------------- + +GREEN FLASH LIGHTS SKY ACROSS FLORIDA +From News-Press Staff and Wirs Services + +Residents from Southwest Florida to the East Coast og the state Thursday +reported seeing a green flash in the sky that lasted approximately 15 minutes, +officials said. + +Callers reported the sighting between 10 and 10:30 P.M. to the Collier County +Sheriff's office, an official their said. The sighting was also reported in +Charlotte County, a Lee Sheriff's Department spokesman said. A short time +after the west coast sighting, residents of the east coast of Florida saw +a flare and then heard an explosion, according to a spokesman for the U.S. +Coast Guard office in Fort Pierce. + +Some people even reported a loud sound similiar to thunder that shook houses, +the Coast Guard office reported. Unconfirmed reports from across the state +said the green streak across the sky was a meteorite which may have landed in +the Atantic Ocean. Officials from Patrick Air Force Base in Cape Canaveral +could not confirm that the sighting was a meteorte, but said the matter would +be investigated today. It was the second time in a week that residents along +Florida's Atlantic Coast reported seeing a flash of bright colored light +streak across the late night sky. + +Last Friday, a streak of light seen in the night sky from Tampa to Jmaica +produced a similar effect and was apparently produced by debris from a Soviet +rocket passing through the Earth's atmosphere. A resident in the West Palm +Beach area described the Thursday night light as bright yellow, white another +in the area said the light started out red, turned to blue, then pink and +yellow. + +Mike Palmeriti, an astronomer in Malabar, saw the light between 9:30 and 10:00 +p.m. He believed it was a "very strong flash of lightning." But Harold +Povenmire, a professor at Brevard Community College and director of the +Florida Fire Bill Patrol, said he is certain the flash of light was caused by +a meteorite entering the atmosphere at 10:03 p.m.. + +He also stated the light was preceded by a sonic boom that "rattled things +around quite a bit." + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1372.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1372.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ddf3220f --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1372.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +SUBJECT: 03/87 SIGHTING IN STANTON, PA. FILE: UFO1372 + + +Report #: 220 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 04-02-1987 + Subject: NEW STANTON, PA + +CASE TYPE: CE I + DATE: 16 MARCH 1987 + TIME: 17:36 HOURS + CFN#: 0342 + DURATION: UNKNOWN +WITNESSES: MANY + SOURCE: PASU +------------------------------------------ +Witnesses reported observing two formations of Unidentified Flying Objects. + +Witnesses said at 7:36 P.M. Two formations of unidentified lighted objects +were seen. + +Witnesses stated that they first sighted the unidentified objects at a high +altitude then they said the objects started dropping to approximately 500 +feet. No other information is known at this time. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1373.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1373.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..06e44ae9 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1373.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +SUBJECT: 03/87 SIGHTING IN LOYALHANNA, PA. FILE: UFO1373 + + + Report #: 221 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 04-12-1987 + Subject: LOYALHANNA, PA + +CASE TYPE: LRS + DATE: 16 MARCH 1987 + TIME: 23:15 HOURS + CFN#: 0343 + DURATION: UNKNOWN +WITNESSES: ONE + SOURCE: PASU +-------------------------------------------- +Witness reported observing a UFO Unidentified Flying Object through window. + +The witness stated that they saw a red flourescent elongated object. The +witness said the object appeared to be approximately two feet in size or +diameter. + +The witness stated that the object was seen moving very slow outside the +window of a second floor. P.A.S.U. are now invesigating this case. New +information on this case will be posted when it come in. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1374.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1374.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8acbd18b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1374.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +SUBJECT: 03/87 SIGHTING IN LATROBE, PA. FILE: UFO1374 + + + Report #: 222 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 04-12-1987 + Subject: LATROBE, PA + +CASE TYPE: LRS + DATE: 20 MARCH 1987 + TIME: 18:30 HOURS + CFN#: 0344 + DURATION: 5:MINUTES +WITNESSES: FOUR + SOURCE: PASU +-------------------------------------------- +Four witnesses reported observing a UFO Unidentified Flying Object. + +Three witnesses including a pilot stated that they observed a solid black +cigar shaped object. + +The witnesses said that the object hovered at a high altitude. They stated +also that the object hovered in the same area for over five minutes. + +The total time of observation was five minutes. Also there were reports of +strange underground sounds. This report is being invesigated by P.A.S.U. and +new information on this case will be posted. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1375.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1375.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d9ca852e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1375.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +SUBJECT: 02/87 SIGHTING IN GLEASON, PA. FILE: UFO1375 + + + Report #: 223 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 04-22-1987 + Subject: GLEASON, WI + +CASE TYPE: LRS + DATE: 3 FEBRUARY 1987 + TIME: 18:45 HOURS + CFN#: 0345 + DURATION: UNKNOWN +WITNESSES: THREE + SOURCE: JOURNAL, ANTIGO +---------------------------------------------- +Another in a series of recent UFO unidentified flying object sightings was +reported in the Gleason area Thesday night. + +Three sister, Rhonda Chapman, 13, Rebecca Chapman, 10, and Tara Chapman, 9, of +N8196 Highway H., Gleason, reported to Lincoln County sheriff's department +that they spotted a UFO in the sky near their home about 6:45 P.M. The +information was relayed to the Langlade County sheriff's department. + +The girls said they saw a large round object that was first yellow and white +in color, and later changed to blue with red flashing lights. Sparks emitted +from the object, the girls reported. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1376.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1376.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9ce84a58 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1376.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +SUBJECT: 03/87 SIGHTING IN GAMBELL, ALASKA FILE: UFO1376 + + + Report #: 224 + From: UFO INFO SERVICE +Date Sent: 05-10-1987 + Subject: GAMBELL, AK +CASE TYPE: LRS + DATE: 17 MARCH 1987 + TIME: 23:55 HOURS + CFN#: 0346 + DURATION: UNKNOWN +WITNESSES: MANY + SOURCE: TIMES ANCHORAGE, AK MARCH 20/1987 +------------------------------------------------ +Alaska National Guard officials in Anchorage Thursday reported that guardmen +living in Western Alaska made reports of a half-dozen sightings of +Unidentified Flying Objects complete with colored lights and spewing smoke. + +Most of the sightings were made a few minutes before midnight on Tuesday. Of +the six sightings, one was dismessed as a Soviet helicopter operating off Big +Diomede Island in the Bering Strait, according to Lt.Mike Haller, information +officer for the guard. + +One of the other sightings from Gambell on St. Lawrence Island in the Bering +Sea - could describe an Air Force AWACS radar surveillance aircraft, Haller +said. A guard member, relaying a report from another villager, said an +aircraft appeared west of Gambell at about 11:55 p.m. The object had a black, +round nose, he said, with an object on top of the fuselage. + +An AWACS aircrft carries a disk-shaped radar dome on top of the fuselage. +But the Air Force, which operates two AWACS in Alaska, said neither plane was +in the air that night. Staff Sgt. Frank Singleton said the planes were flying +only day missions. + +Other descriptions relayed to Guard officials consistently described bright +lights and clouds around the object, haller said. From Elim, on Norton +sound, a villager desribed an object with "very bright aqua and blue-green +lights" about the size of two football fields with egg-shaped clouds around +it. + +The night sky was clear throughout the region. The sighting took place at +11:56 p.m. with the object spotted about 5 miles north of Elim. Three +separate groups of villagers saw it traveling to the southwest, haller said. +In Savoonga, a Guard member received a call from a neighbor at 11:50 p.m. He +estimated an object larger then a jet was flying at 30,000 feet with two +bright lights and smoke moving from front to rear. + +In Tununak, about 125 miles west of Bethel on Nelson Island, a Guard member +described the object as a bright white light, such as an aircraft landing +light as seen through fog. The sky was clear, however . The object was +traveling from west to east over the Island and was estimated to be flying at +30,000 to 40,000 feet. + +The reports follow two visual sightings of Unidentified Flying Objects by the +captain of a Japan Air Lines aircraft flying over Interior Alaska. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1377.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1377.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d68b9c81 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1377.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,184 @@ +SUBJECT: NORTH EAST OHIO UFO FLAP - MUFON FILE: UFO1377 + + + N.E. OHIO FLAP + by Richard P. Dell'Aquila + + Richard P. Dell'Aquila and Dale B. Wedge, MUFON State Section +Directors for Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga and Ashtabula Counties (Ohio) +have been investigating a series of sightings, beginning about March +4, 1988 and seemingly centered around the Perry Nuclear Plant, and the +CEI coal burning plant at Eastlake, both on the shore of Lake Erie, +east of Cleveland, Ohio. + March 4th was a clear, crisp night and the stars were clearly +visible, especially to the north over the lake where there are no city +lights. Venus and Jupiter were bright and in close proximity to each +other in the western sky. At about 6:30 P.M., S.B. (name and address +provided to MUFON) and her children were driving home to Eastlake +along the lake shore when they observed a large blimp-like object with +bright white lights at each end, hovering over the lake and rocking +end to end like a "teeter-totter." One light was brighter than the +other and was strobing. On arriving home, she asked her husband to +accompany her to the beach about 200 yards north for a closer view of +the object which they later described as "larger than a football held +at arm's length." + She and her husband walked onto the beach. The noiseless +object was gun metal gray and seemed to cause the ice on the lake to +rumble and crack loudly in an unusual way which frightened her. The +witnesses had to shout to be heard by each other, and were surprised +that no dogs were out barking as would have been expected. + After observing the object for a while, the couple became +concerned for the safety of their children in the car when the object +revolved slowly about 90 degrees, coming almost overhead (about 1/4 +mile high) and pointing its "front" end down toward them. They drove +the children home and continued watching the object from their living +room window which faces the lake. A neighbor was phoned and she and +her son went to the beach, reporting the same thing. They took +photographs which did not turn out. + The object began to descend and the witnesses returned to the +beach, where it was now observed to have red and blue blinking lights +along its bottom edge. It emitted 5 or 6 noiseless, intensly bright +yellow triangular lights from its side. They intermittently hovered +around the larger object, darted and zig-zagged into the night sky at +velocities far in excess of known aircraft. Mr. B stated the +triangular objects were smaller than a one-seat Cessna and "crossed 50 +mile stretches low over the ice in the snap of a finger." They were +said to be able to approach the shore, turn abrupt right angles due +east toward the Perry Nuclear Plant about 12 miles away, climbing +rapidly and returning again, all within several seconds. By this +time, a Coast Guard patrol vehicle had arrived on the beach in +response to S.B.'s several phone calls. + The triangular objects came closer to the shore, causing the +witnesses to become concerned that the lights on the Coast Guard +vehicle would attract the objects and the lights were turned off. The +triangles continued to fly off at high speed northward over the lake +and eastward toward the Perry Nuclear Plant. About an hour later, +they returned one at a time into the large ship, which then landed on +the ice. Several multi-colored lights now came on for about 5 minutes + + (Page 1 of 3) +on the bottom of the object "in a wave like a movie theater sign" and +the brighter white light on the end began strobing red and white. +When these went off, the ice stopped making noise and everything +became "dead silent." The object could no longer be seen within about +a half hour and it was assumed to have gone below the surface. The +next day, unusually huge pieces of broken ice were observed in the +area of the landing. + The Coast Guard informed Mr. and Mrs. B the following day +that the Army and NASA, whom S.B. had also phoned, instructed them not +to investigate the matter further or go out on the lake in their +cutter to examine the ice in the area of the landing, since the matter +was "out of their league and out of their hands." They informed the +couple that all information was being forwarded to Wright-Patterson +Air Force Base and a facility in Detroit, Michigan. In response to a +Coast Guard inquiry, Wright-Patterson refused to confirm or deny any +interest in these activities. + On the next night, the same witnesses observed several +triangular objects over the lake for about 45 minutes. By the time +Coast Guard personnel arrived on the scene, the objects were gone. + On March 7, 1988, the Cleveland Plain Dealer and Lake County +News-Herald carried articles which attributed a series of reports of +large brightly lit objects over Lake Erie on the prior weekend to +several witnesses' misidentification of the planets Venus and Jupiter. +The newspaper accounts indicated that the Fairport Harbor Coast Guard +went to the area and saw a large bright object that seemed to dispurse +smaller, bright multi-colored objects. But when they called the local +air traffic controllers, they were "informed" that Jupiter and Venus +were in alignment and that the colors were the result of "spontaneous +gas emissions from the two planets." One article even attributed this +amazing explanation to a professor of astronomy at a local university. + On reading the articles, Dell'Aquila felt it was unlikely +that U.S. Coast Guard personnel, trained in navigation and +identification of basic celestial objects such as the planets, could +have made such a gross misidentification. Likewise, the statement +attributed to the professor of astronomy was equally unacceptable, in +that no other similar "spontaneous gas emission" from the planets +cited, of the necessary magnitude, had ever been noted, particulary on +this weekend. + In the course of the follow-up investigation by Dell'Aquila +and Wedge, a Coast Guard incident report was found (presently in +MUFON's possession) which states that Coast Guard personnel responded +to several calls reporting UFOs over Lake Erie on the night of March +4, 1988. When the Coast Guard arrived, the report confirms that a +large object "dispersed 3-5 smaller flying objects that were zipping +around rather quickly. These objects had red, green white, and yellow +lights on them that strobed intermittently. They also had the ability +to stop and hover in mid-flight." The incident report confirms Mr. +and Mrs. B's reports, including the abnormal cracking of the ice as +the object came closer to it and apparently landed. "The smaller +objects began hovering in the area where the large object landed +(about 1/4 mile east of the CEI power plant) and after a few minutes +they began flying around again." The report states that, "One of the +small objects turned on a spotlight where the large object had been, +but [the Coast Guard personnel] could not see anything, and then the +object seemed to disappear. Another object approached [these +personnel] approximately 500 yards offshore about 20 feet above the +ice, and it began moving closer as [the Coast Guard] began flashing +its headlights, then it moved off to the west." + + (Page 2 of 3) + A subsequent Coast Guard report (also in possession of MUFON) +prepared after the sightings of the following night attributes the +sightings to misidentifications of the planets Venus and Jupiter and +says, "the flashing lights are gases in the atmosphere...Request +incident closed this unit." In response to a classified advertisement +placed by the investigators, other witnesses contacted Dell'Aquila and +Wedge, and have been interviewed as the investigation continues. + On the same night (March 4th) at about 10:00 P.M., and +continuing until approximately 10:30 P.M., C.H. (name and address +provided to MUFON) also reported a UFO near her home, which is a few +miles south of the lake shore and just east of the Perry Nuclear +Plant. C.H. was walking a puppy when she noticed the stationary +triangular object in the southeasterly sky. It was much brighter than +the moon, and seemed to upset the puppy, which she took back indoors. +Returning outdoors, she reported that the object began sequentially +flashing multi-colored lights, suspended in rows below the base of the +triangle. The witness responded by flashing her cigarette lighter and +the UFO's light pattern became more erratic. At one point, the +triangle revolved clockwise, turning its apex about 90 degrees to a +horizontal position, but still flashing the rows of light. After +several minutes, it turned back counter-clockwise as it simultaneously +accelerated away to the south at a high rate of speed, disappearing +behind some trees. No noise or odor was reported. + At about 10:30 P.M. that night T.K. (name and address +provided to MUFON), took a photograph in his back yard, within a few +miles of the Perry Nuclear Plant, showing a portion of a brightly lit +triangular object travelling across the sky (Photograph in possession +of MUFON). This object was later confirmed by Mr. and Mrs. B and C.H. +to be identical to the triangular objects they were also observing +about the same time a few miles away, and is also similar to one +reported to Phil Imbrogno as having been near the Indian Point Nuclear +Power Plant in New York State on the same night. + T.K. and his friend were outdoors on the night of March 4th, +observing the stars through his telescope. Venus and Jupiter were +reported to be in the western sky behind a stand of trees. While +looking southward through the telescope, out of the corner of his left +eye, T.K. noticed a bright, moving object in the sky. He and his +friend were awe-struck by the triangular object, but he did have the +presence of mind to take 3 photographs with a small "snapshot" type +camera loaded with Kodak 110 color film, with which they had intended +to photograph stars through the telescope. Only one photograph +turned out. It is the last in the series, taken while +panning ahead of the object, and shows the front portion of the +triangle. The object was described as about 3-4 inches tall at arm's +length and glowing an intense yellow/orange to white, with a bright +orange/red glow behind it. It seemed to pulse brighter and dimmer, +moving in a roughly southwesterly direction until it was obscured by +trees. As it moved, it accelerated, slowed and accelerated again. No +sound or smell was noted, although his dog had a strong reaction, +running in circles and tugging on T.K.'s sleeve, apparently in an +attempt to urge him away from the object. Total time of observation +was a few minutes. + Dell'Aquila and Wedge continue to receive reports of +additional UFOs over the same period, some supported by photographs, +as the sightings continue to the date of this writing. Supplementary +reports will be provided as the investigation of the flap progresses. + + (Page 3 of 3) + + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1378.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1378.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7042bea6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1378.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +SUBJECT: 3/88 LAKE ERIE UFO REPORT FILE: UFO1378 + + +The Cleveland Plain Dealer +Monday, March 7, 1988 +-------------------------- + +COZYING OF JUPITER, VENUS LIGHT UP SKY + + Reports of unidentified flying objects are being made, and the most +likely explanation is the rare alignment of Jupiter and Venus. + Some Fairport Harbor residents reported seeing UFOs and large bright +objects hovering over Lake Erie over the weekend. + The Fairport Harbor Coast Guard went to the area and saw a large +bright object that seemed to disperse smaller, brightly colored objects. +But when they called the Greater Cleveland air traffic controllers, they +learned that Jupiter and Venus were in alignment and that the colors were +the result of spontaneous gas emissions from the two planets. + Its the celestial equivalent of a colorful floor show, says Charles +B. Stephenson, a professor of astronomy at Case Western Reserve +University. + The Earth's atmosphere helps create the color sensation, in the same +way that distant stars appear to twinkle. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1379.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1379.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8f2c8339 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1379.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +SUBJECT: 3/88 LAKE ERIE UFO REPORT - MUFON FILE: UFO1379 + + +The News-Herald +Monday, March 7, 1988 +---------------------- + +SKY-GAZERS MISTAKE PLANETS FOR UFOS + + Visitors from another planet have nothing to do with the UFOs which +were reported along the lake shore Friday and Saturday nights. But, +according to the Coast Guard, the planets Jupiter and Venus are involved. + When the US Coast Guard at Fairport Harbor received reports Friday +night of UFOs in the sky, it checked with area airports to learn what +their radar indicated. + "We thought it might be someone in trouble setting off flares," said +Petty Officer John Knaub. "So we investigated ourselves." + Coast Guard members saw the lights over the lake about 1/4 mile east +of the mouth of the Chagrin River. "But Lost Nation Airport advised us +that we were seeing the planets Jupiter and Venus, which are lined up +together in the sky. Apparently the gases in the atmosphere created the +appearance of smaller objects around them." + The UFO reports rolled in again Saturday night, when the sky +remained clear and was dominated by a full moon. + Knaub said the phenomena is visible around 9PM, as skygazers look +west along the lake from Fairport Harbor. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1380.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1380.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..26b0291b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1380.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +SUBJECT: 3/88 ERIE US COAST GUARD UFO REPORT FILE: UFO1380 + +PART 1 + + +SUBJ: INCIDENT REPORT: UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS +1. UNIDENTIFIABLE FLYING OBJECTS 1/4 MILE EAST OF CEI POWER PLANT. +2. AT 2035 LCL THIS STATION RCVD A CALL FROM +[Name blanked by MUFON investigators] RPTNG A LARGE OBJECT HOVERING OVER +THE LAKE AND APPARENTLY ON A SLOW DECENT. THE OBJECT HAD A WHITE LIGHT AND +WAS APPROX. 1/4 MILE UP. [Blanked] WAS UNABLE TO DETERMINE HOW FAR OUT IT +WAS. THIS UNIT SENT 2 CREWMEMBERS TO INVESTIGATE. BEFORE THEY ARRIVED O/S, +WE RCVD 2 MORE CALLS RPTNG THAT THE OBJECT HAD APPARENTLY DISPERSED 3-5 +SMALLER FLYING OBJECTS THAT WERE ZIPPING AROUND RATHER QUICKLY. THESE +OBJECTS HAD RED, GREEN, WHITE AND YELLOW LIGHTS ON THEM THAT STROBED +INTERMITTENTLY. THEY ALSO HAD THE ABILITY TO STOP AND HOVER IN MID-FLIGHT. +WHEN MOBILE 02 GO O/S, THEY RPTD THE SAME ACTIVITY. THEY WATCHED THE +OBJECTS FOR APPROX. 1 HOUR BEFORE RPTNG THAT THE LARGE OBJECT WAS ALMOST +ON THE ICE. THEY RPTD THAT THE ICE WAS CRACKING AND MOVING ABNORMAL +AMOUNTS AS THE OBJECT CAME CLOSER TO IT. THE ICE WAS RUMBLING AND THE +OBJECT LIT MULTI-COLOR LIGHTS AT EACH END AS IT APPARENTLY LANDED. THE +;LIGHTS ON IT WENT OUT MOMENTARILY AND THEN CAME ON AGAIN. THEY WENT OUT +AGAIN AND THE RUMBLING STOPPED AND THE ICE STOPPED MOVING. THE SMALLER +OBJECTS BEGAN HOVERING IN THE AREA WHERE THE LARGE OBJECT LANDED AND AFTER +A FEW MINUTES THEY BEGAN FLYING AROUND AGAIN. MOBILE 02 RPTD THAT THEY +APPEARED TO BE SCOUTING THE AREA. MOBILE 02 RPTD THAT 1 OBJECT WAS MOVING +TOWARD THEM AT A HIGH SPEED AND LOW TO THE ICE. MOBILE 02 BACKED DOWN THE +HILL THEY HAD BEEN ON AND WHEN THEY WENT BACK TO THE HILL, THE OBJECT WAS +GONE. THEY RPTD THAT THE OBJECTS COULD NOT BE SEEN IF THEY TURNED OFF +THERE LIGHTS. ONE OF THE SMALL OBJECTS TURNED ON A SPOTLIGHT WHERE THE +LARGE OBJECT HAD BEEN BUT MOBILE 02 COULD NOT SEE ANYTHING, AND THEN THE +OBJECT SEEMED TO DISAPPEAR. ANOTHER OBJECT APPROACHED MOBILE 02 APPROX. +500 YDS. OFFSHORE ABOUT 20 FT. ABOVE THE ICE, AND IT BEGAN MOVING CLOSER +AS MOBILE 02 BEGAN FLASHING ITS HEADLIGHTS, THEN IT MOVED OFF TO THE WEST. +3. THE CREWMEMBERS WERE UNABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY OF THE OBJECTS USING +BINOCULARS AND AFTER CONTACTING LOCAL POLICE AND AIRPORTS, THIS UNIT WAS +UNABLE TO IDENTIFY THE OBJECTS, AND RECALLED MOBILE 02. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1381.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1381.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8bbbee02 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1381.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +SUBJECT: 3/88 ERIE US COAST GUARD UFO REPORT FILE: UFO1381 + +PART 2 + + +SUBJ: INCIDENT REPORT: UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS +1. UNIDENTIFIABLE FLYING OBJECTS 1/4 MILE EAST OF CEI POWER PLANT. +2. AT 1913 LCL THIS STATION RCVD CALL FROM [Name blanked by investigators] +RPTNG A LARGE OBJECT HOVERING OVER THE LAKE AT A GREATER ALTITUDE THAN +LAST NIGHT. AT 1923 LCL THIS STATION CALLED LOST NATION AIRPORT +(WILLOUGHBY OHIO). THEY STATED HEAVY AIR TRAFFIC THIS EVENING. THE RUNWAY +(23) THAT THEY ARE USING RUNS NORTH-SOUTH. THIS STATION SENT MOBILE 02 +WITH 03 PERSONS TO INVESTIGATE. UPON ARRIVING ON SEEN THERE WERE NEGATIVE +SIGHTINGS. EAST LAKE POLICE SENT A PATROL CAR TO INVESTIGATE ALSO NEGATIVE +SIGHTINGS. MOBILE 02 IS GOING TO BE ON THE BEACH TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER. +3. UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION THIS STATION CALLED LOST NATIONS AIRPORT +AGAIN AND TALKED TO [blanked] IN THE CONTROL TOWER. [blanked] INFORMED US +THAT THE TWO BRIGHT LIGHTS ARE THE PLANETS VENUS AND JUPITER. THE FLASHING +LIGHTS ARE GASES IN THE ATMOSPHERE. THE PLANETS SHOULD BE SETTING ABOUT +2130 LCL. +4. REQUEST INCIDENT CLOSED THIS UNIT. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1382.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1382.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ea5d35f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1382.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +SUBJECT: 3/88 ERIE US COAST GUARD UFO REPORT FILE: UFO1382 + +PART 6 + + + UDATE TO N.E. OHIO UFO FLAP: + + On Saturday, April 2, 1988 at about 3:15 P.M., Eastern +Time, a flat black helicopter was reported to fly at tree-top +level over the N.E. Ohio home of one of the witnesses whose +prior sighting has been filed with MUFON by Dale B. Wedge and +Rick Dell'Aquila, and recounted on Paranet (see 1395.UFO & 1396). +The helicopter was observed by at least 5 individuals from three +separate residences in the neighborhood, and was in sight for 2- +3 minutes. + The unmarked and unlit helicopter had a military +appearance as it approached slowly from the west, making a loud +sound peculiarly similar to that made by a small airplane rather +than a helicopter. The apparently windowless craft was observed +to fly eastward, before turning to the south and disappearing +over a line of trees. It apparently caused "snow" on a +television screen. The investigation of the continuing series +of UFO events in this area continues and updates will be +provided to MUFON and Paranet as they become available. + --Rick Dell'Aquila + +LIGHTS ARE GASES IN THE ATMOSPHERE. THE PLANETS SH + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1383.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1383.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..49f66895 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1383.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,463 @@ +SUBJECT: BULLETIN ON ERIE UFO FILE: UFO1383 + + + + The Easlake UFO case has generated a great + deal of debate and controversy here in the Cleveland area. + The following are downloaded bulletins from FREENET a large, + free, local BBS in the Cleveland, Ohio area. These messages + are from the Skepticism SIG. + + +--------------------------------------- +Date: Thu Apr 7 20:52:04 1988 +From: RICHARD P. DELL'AQUILA (ab114) +Subj: EASTLAKE UFO REPORTED BY COAST GUARD + + In a reply to a recent question from Dale Wedge, Page +Stevens has mentioned that an unusual UFO event occurring over +Lake Erie in early March was the result of a misidentification +of the planets Jupiter and Venus which appeared close to each +other in the night sky. Page mentioned that a Coast Guard +report on the incident "agrees fully" with the Venus/Jupiter +hypothesis. The report has been submitted to an astronomer for +his expert opinion as to whether the Venus/Jupiter hypothesis +adequately explains all the phenomena described in the report +by the Coast Guard personnel, also reported by at least a half +dozen other independent witnesses. + The sightings, which have continued unabated for the +past month, have been reported by several independent +witnesses, one of whom took photographs. The case is being +investigated by Rick Dell'Aquila (ab114) and Dale Wedge (ae511) + The document confirms that members of the Coast Guard +saw a group of strange objects cavorting on and near the icy +surface of Lake Erie. A local astronomer attempted to explain +the sightings as resulting from the apparent conjunction of +Jupiter and Venus in the night sky, coupled with "spontaneous +gas emissions" caused by viewing the conjunction through the +Earth's atmosphere. + The incident involves a large blimp-like object, "larger +than the Goodyear blimp," which released up to a half dozen +triangular-shaped lights and objects, in close proximity to the +Perry nuclear power plant and Eastlake coal burning plant, and +multiple independent witnesses, apparent animal reactions, as +well as government documents, and hence qualifies for high- +priority. + The case is officially classified as a Close Encounter +of the Second Kind. + +The Coast Guard report reads as follows: + + +COG: INFO COPIES + + +CPCD THE SAME ACTIVITY. THEY +WATCHED THE OBJECTS FOR APPROX. 1 HOUR BEFORE RPTNG THAT THE +LARGE OBJECT WAS ALMOST ON THE ICE. THEY RPTD THAT THE ICE WAS +CRACKING AND MOVING ABNORMAL AMOUNTS AS THE OBJECT CAME CLOSER +TO IT. THE ICE WAS RUMBLING AND THE OBJECT LIT MULTI-COLOR +LIGHTS AT EACH END AS IT APPARENTLY LANDED. THE ;LIGHTS ON IT +WENT OUT MOMENTARILY AND THEN CAME ON AGAIN. THEY WENT OUT +AGAIN AND THE RUMBLING STOPPED AND THE ICE STOPPED MOVING. THE +SMALLER OBJECTS BEGAN HOVERING IN THE AREA WHERE THE LARGE +OBJECT LANDED AND AFTER A FEW MINUTES THEY BEGAN FLYING AROUND +AGAIN. MOBILE 02 RPTD THAT THEY APPEARED TO BE SCOUTING THE +AREA. MOBILE 02 RPTD THAT 1 OBJECT WAS MOVING TOWARD THEM AT A +HIGH SPEED AND LOW TO THE ICE. MOBILE 02 BACKED DOWN THE HILL +THEY HAD BEEN ON AND WHEN THEY WENT BACK TO THE HILL, THE +OBJECT WAS GONE. THEY RPTD THAT THE OBJECTS COULD NOT BE SEEN +IF THEY TURNED OFF THERE LIGHTS. ONE OF THE SMALL OBJECTS +TURNED ON A SPOTLIGHT WHERE THE LARGE OBJECT HAD BEEN BUT +MOBILE 02 COULD NOT SEE ANYTHING, AND THEN THE OBJECT SEEMED TO +DISAPPEAR. ANOTHER OBJECT APPROACHED MOBILE 02 APPROX. 500 YDS. +OFFSHORE ABOUT 20 FT. ABOVE THE ICE, AND IT BEGAN MOVING CLOSER +AS MOBILE 02 BEGAN FLASHING ITS HEADLIGHTS, THEN IT MOVED OFF +TO THE WEST. +3. THE CREWMEMBERS WERE UNABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY OF THE OBJECTS +pher William James commented as follows +on the views of contemporary "skeptics" among his Harvard +colleagues. His comments remain pertinent: + + "There is included in human nature an ingrained naturalism +and materialism of mind which can only admit facts that are +tangible. Of this sort of mind the entity called "Science" is +the idol. Fondness for the word "scientist" is one of the notes +by which you may know its votaries; and its short way of killing +any opinion that it disbelieves in is to call it "unscientific." +It must be granted that there is no slight excuse for this. +Science has made such glorious leaps in the last 300 +years...that it is no wonder if the worshippers of Science lose +their heads. In this very University, accordingly, I have heard +more than one teacher say that all the fundamental conceptions +of truth have already found by Science, and that the future has +only the details of the picture to fill in. But the slightest +reflection on the real conditions will suffice to show how +barbaric such notions are. They show such a lack of scientific +imagination that it is hard to see how one who is actively +advancing any part of Science can make a statement so crude. +Think how many absolutely new scientific conceptions have arisen +in our generation, how many new problems have been formulated +TV stations,the astronomy dept. at CWRU,etc. to report +these objects as UFOs. + In an April 7 listing on this bulletin board,Rick Dell'Aquila +gives the text of a U.S.Coast Guard report (dated March 4) which +he suggests can not be explained as resulting from a misidentifi- +cation of these planets.Although it contains an account of multi- +colored,noctural lights cavorting about and landing on the Lake +Erie ice,this report is devoid of the most important observation- +al details which one expects from highly trained observers.What +was their exact location at the time of these observations?Given +that location,what were the approximate azimuth and altitude of +these lights? Since the shoreline at Fairport Harbor runs almost +NE-SW,saying that the lights are out over the lake means that +they could lie anywhere from SW to NE as seen from near the +lakeshore. + Given this lack of detail,it is rather suggestive that the +CG people observed the bright light to "land" on the ice at +about the same time that Venus set i.e. went below the horizon +that evening.Nowhere in the report do the CG people say that +they saw the UFOs in addition to Venus and Jupiter i.e. if +this display took place low in the western sky,one might expect +them to have compared the brightness and positions of the UFOs +relative to these planets.It Jupiter were in +the western portion of the sky that evening. After the sight- +ing, Dell'Aquila and Wedge went out to the sight and did sight +these planets in the western sky. We even took some calcu- +latiions as to the location of the planets at the times that +witnesses were seeing the objects over the lake. From +our determination, we can state that the objects that were seen +over the Lake were not Venus and Jupiter. The witnesses that +evening knew where the planets were. The subject who reported +the objects was travelling EAST and was facing east when the +objects were seen to her left, the northern portion of the +sky, near the residence. + +In regards to the Coast Guard, Mr. Sanduleak must only be +reading the report of the second evening. It would seem that +anyone being involved in the Coast Guard would have a basic +knowledge of the skies above us, since it is a tool that they +use to navigate the seas. I would also doubt that Coast +Guard personnel would mistake Venus and Jupiter as the culprit +being behind objects being seen to be approximately 500 yards +offshore about 20 feet above the ice. I have never known the +planets to do this. If you go to the sight of the incident, +there is no west to look at on the ice, since it is obscured +by the Eastlake Coal Buture fits +the description made by the witnesses at the scene of the +encounter. +Lastly, because we ensure secrecy of witnesses, it is +unfortunate that the Coast Guard will not allow us to inter- +view the Coast Guard personnel that were at the scene that +evening. Who has something to hide? Is it Sanduleak that is +frightened of a real incident or is the Coast Guard frightened +that they have given the smoking gun that could open up the +paper trail on a real phenomenon? +Dale + +--------------------------------------- +--------------------------------------- +Date: Mon Apr 11 21:47:08 1988 +From: RICHARD P. DELL'AQUILA (ab114) +Subj: TO THE ASTRONOMERS RE: EASTLAKE UFO + + AN OPEN LETTER TO THE PROFESSIONAL SKEPTICS, RE: UFO SIGHTING +OVER LAKE ERIE OVER THE WEEKEND OF MARCH 4, 1988 + + It is understandable that a professional in any occupation +will have a reputation to preserve among his or her peers, and that +the desire to maintain that professional reputation will sometimes +require the professional to defend indefensable positions (e.g. +"C.Y.A.") from which he cannot otherwise extricate himself. It's +okay guys, I understand. You put out the Venus/Jupiter hypothesis +before the Coast Guard report was released and now you are stuck with +it for better or worse. I suspect that, being the professionals you +arein a civil manner. I suppose yours is at least a more +straightforward approach than that taken by the sysop of another +Freenet SIG who, after inviting UFO discussion, has elected to erase +all UFO uploads from his SIG and who, when all else fails, resorts to +name-calling as a rhetorical device. Well, taking your toys home +when you lose the game is a rather immature way to deal with +confrontation. Doctor, take an example from the skeptics on this SIG, +bravely sticking to their guns--going down with their ship, flags +waving--but proudly, stubbornly, sticking to their guns to the bitter +end. "Solution: Venus/Jupiter" period. + Guys: You are the experts. People look to you for answers. +If you teach, your students rely on you for accuracy. When you +publish, other experts rely on your objectivity and clarity of +analysis. Yet you ask us to accept the Venus/Jupiter hypothesis +primarily because you have put it forward as the "truth." Now that +the professional skeptics have made their final pronouncement, I +trust you will permit me to raise a few minor details, tie up some +loose ends and send along you ways to comfortably bury our heads back +in the sand again until the next time the planets start releasing +strobing multi-colort your hypothesis +and ignoring the "meaningless residue" for purposes of clarity. +However, the a priori assumption with which you approach this +particular subject (i.e. "UFOs do not represent any phenomena which +cannot be explained in prosaic terms.") renders your resulting +opinions on the matter largely irrelevant. Although your credentials +as Skeptics remain firmly intact, be honest enough to admit you +cannot adequately explain ALL aspects of the sighting. Don't push +sophistry. + I respectfully suggest that the Venus/Jupiter hypothesis is a +professional embarassment to you, since it completely ignores the +observed phenomena and fails to explain how the Coast Guard personnel +could have been so grossly fooled by known celestial objects. Guys, +it's okay to admit you just "don't know" what was over Lake Erie that +night. That diploma over your desk doesn't make you a vending +machine--you don't have to dispense a Pepsi every time someone drops +in their change and pulls your handle. + +--------------------------------------- +--------------------------------------- +Date: Tue Apr 12 10:42:09 1988 +From: NEIL GOULD (aa330) +Subj: Re: Eastlake UFO report - Neil + + +Well, I personally find the report of the sighting from the +Coast Guard to be rather interesting. As has beeway to repeat the event, +conclusions will be hard to come by. +Perhaps that is the real reason there isn't a lot of chatter +about these things? + +- Neil + +--------------------------------------- +--------------------------------------- +Date: Tue Apr 12 11:42:08 1988 +From: RICHARD P. DELL'AQUILA (ab114) +Subj: Neil Hits the Mark--RPD + +COPY OF LETTER TO DR. LAMBE + +Since Dr. Lambe, moderator of the SF Reviewers' SIG has seen fit +to delete all reference to UFOs from his board, I am uploading +this copy of the beginning portion of a rather lengthy upload to +the SF OPEN Forum Board. (Apparently Dr. Lambe has concluded +that his OPEN Forum was to be closed to matters pertaining to +Ufology. Thankfully, Page has not come to a similar conclusion. + + Dear Dr. Lambe: + + Thank you for your letter concerning your opinions on +UFOs, but I believe you are operating under a misperception. +I do not presume to know what UFOs ARE, because I really don't +know; but the evidence does establish beyond a reasonable doubt +that they are not ALL misperceptions or hoaxes. Indeed, the +reports that stem from IDENTIFIABLE sources do not, obviously, +fit the definition of an UNIDENTIFIED Flying Object. + UFOs have been reported by entirely competent witnesses +whose sightings have been corroborated byve arisen in our generation...Is this credible +that such a mushroom of knowledge, such a growth overnight as +this, CAN represent more than the minutest glimpse of what the +universe will really prove to be when adequately understood? NO! +Our Science is but a drop, our ignorance a sea..." + Almost a century later, James has been fully vindicated by +discoverys such as relativity, quantum mechanics, and associated +new concepts that overturned the previous scintific "truths." +Our scientific knowledge continues to grow exponentially. + The focus of your reply seems to be that UFOs do not exist +as such, but your opinion is based on a false assumption. The +issue of UFO existence cannot be dismissed on the basis of any +such a priori assumption, but must be premised upon +investigation. The evidence to date indicates that UFOs are +phenomena not completely understood by our present Science, but +which fall into one or several of the following categories: + + 1. Undiscovered space/time distortions or manipulations + that conform to the laws of physics, but require + extraordinary explanations; + 2. Undiscovered space/time distortions or manipulations + that conform to undiscovered laws of physics; + 3. Nonphysical products of individual or group mental + action, conforming to known and unknown psychological + principles, or + 4. Something other than e person because I know you +are able to interpret the data even though we might come to different +conclusions. + +I was therefore disappointed by the upload in which you made ad +hominem attacks on both Nick Sanduleak and myself because I think +they were unwarranted. + +All either Nick or I ask is that everyone look at the evidence and +make their own decision about what it says. +Neither of us, unless you consider all scientists to be skeptics +is a "professional skeptic," and indeed I don't know what that term +might mean because as far as I am concerned a "professional" is a person +who makes his living by doing what he does, and I don't know of any +skeptic who does this. Even James Randi, although he also makes +some money from his skeptical lectures, is basically a professional +entertainer. +In Nick and my own case I doubt if either of us has made a total of +$200.00 in the past five years by lecturing on skeptical topics, and while +Phil Klass has published a few books on the subject of UFOs I doubt +if he has been paid any more than a few cents on the hour for the work +he has done. +I suspect the reason Nick, Randi, Phil, Paul Kurtz and myself spend +our time investigating claims of the paranormal is similar to the +reason you spend your free time investigating UFOs, because we want to +discover what is really going on even though for our efforI also resent your +statement that scientists are afraid to express their true +opinions in public, and are not willing to examine ALL the +reported phenomena and express their true opinions. + + It is obvious that you don't understand the nature of +science at all when you state that we put forward a hypothesis +as "truth." A hypothesis is an educated guess based upon the +observations. It is something we throw out to be tested for +validity. Hypotheses that are not tested or hypotheses that can +not be tested are no good at all. We keep a very open mind when +we test our hypotheses, in fact, the way we go about testing +our hypotheses is to do everything we can think of to prove them +false! It is only after everyone who wants to has tried to +prove it false that we say that a hypothesis has any validity. + You are forgetting about the psychological nature of +human beings when you say that the Venus/Jupiter hypothesis +completely ignores the observed phenomena and fails to explain +how the Coast Guard personnel could have been so grossly fooled +by known celestial objects. People can be fooled by a lot less +than celestial objects. Let me tell you my own true experience +with a UFO. Last September I was driving down Bagley road in +the afternoon during a rain the firewords and realized that what I had +ks and realized that what I had +realy seen was fireworks exploding against the dark cloud. + If I had not turned into the park and seen the +fireworks, I would have always believed that I had seen a real +UFO and no one would have been able to change my mind with +mere reason and logic. Don't you think that there is a +possibility at least that the Coast Guard personnel may +have had a similar experience to mine? + + Please try and keep an open mind about these things. +--------------------------------------- +--------------------------------------- +Date: Thu Apr 14 18:10:11 1988 +From: KEN KOPIN (ac077) +Subj: UFO's + + I would like to bring up a point +for discussion. Now, if I make +any errors in assumptions, or +facts, PLEASE jump on them! I wish +to be accurate... + + There are probably lots and lots +of reported UFO sightings in the +USA every year. There are also +a bunch of satalights up there that +do nothing but look down at us, +looking for, well, whatever... + + Now, wouldn't you think that the +Govt would occasionally be looking +at an area at the same time a + +UFO was sighted? If so, then why not +either coroborate (SP!) or shoot-down +the UFO sighting? (Not the UFO!) + + Either, the govt already knows what +it is (Secret plane, Aliens, whatever) +and doesn't really want to talk +about it, or... What? + + <*> Ken Kopin <*> + + +--------- several days, we have been concentrating on +our disagreements concerning the Eastlake UFO case. I would now +like to direct the focus of the debate to those aspects of the +case on which we can find some agreement. + 1. The report of the Coast Guard was made by on- + duty personnel dispatched to the sighting area. It can + be presumed that these are competent individuals without + apparent motive to falsify a report that would cause them + embarassment or worse. + 2. The report, taken at face value, contains + features which suggest something other than a + conventional aircraft or meteorological/astronomical + origin for the report. + 3. Positions have been advanced by the + scientific "experts" which do not adequately address ALL + the features of the report, when taken at face value. + 4. The primary Coast Guard report is supported + by civilian reports of the phenomena observed within the + same time-frame on the same night by witnesses who did + not and do not know each other and who were separated by + several miles from each other at the time of observation. + 5. These reports are also supported by + photographic evidence. +thing unknown. Significantly, at no time did +the Coast Guard personnel believe they were watching a star or +planet of some sort, although this argument was much later +advanced as the solution. The Coast Guard personnel refused to +speculate further with regard to the true nature of the UFOs +they observed that night. They were frightened and behaved in a +defensive manner, hardly a reasonbable response to ordinary +astronomical objects. + Our legal system is premised upon the assumption that, +within certain restrictions, human observation and testimony can +be regarded as factual. Certain well-established rules exist to +test the credibility of witnesses and their testimony. Among +these are reputation, motivation, consistency with other +established facts, recency, multiplicity and independence of +witnesses, multiple methods of observation, etc. Applying these +tests to the Eastlake UFO case, the case stands up better than +many cases which have been won in courts of law across this +country. + Scientists are human too. They have been wrong before +and they will be wrong again. The responses to the results of +our investigation which Dale and I have received from the +"experts" on this board go beyond mere sympathy for the +ignorant. Ratheitioner resists challenges to his +religious beliefs. + This resistance can take the form of avoidance or denial +of evidence inconsistent with the established belief system or +illogical arguments advanced by scientists who may be otherwise +objective and analytically precise in their professional +opinions. A prime example on Freenet of the first approach, is +the regrettable avoidance response of Dr. Lambe, who has seen +fit to simply delete all reference to UFOs from the Science +Fiction SIG OPEN Forum after inviting UFO debate. An example of +the second response is the illogical Venus/Jupiter hypothesis +pronounced by the others as the final solution to the UFO +reported over Lake Erie the weekend of March 4, 1988. + Another typical response to challenges to an established +belief system is to ridicule those who challenge the beliefs +held (e.g. "These 'wackos' have made a foolish error in +observation, or are suffering from a delusion or illusion of +some sort"). If the physical scientists are correct that the +basis of the reports is in the observers, rather than anything +physically observed, then the internal consistency of the +independently witnessed observations with regard to the Eastlake +UFO case requires that the behavioral scientists reconsider the +validity of their own nternally consistent, across the +testimony of several independent witnesses, geographically +separated from each other and further supported by photographic +evidence, that it is virtually impossible that it is premised +upon any random delusion, illusion or hoax. It remains that the +observed phenomena were indeed a manifestation of physical +stimuli, as reported by the witnesses. We therefore can only +conclude that the Skeptics and physical scientists are incorrect +in their assessment of this case. + The status of our knowledge of UFOs to date, typified by +the Eastlake case, establishes that UFOs indeed constitute +genuinely new empirical observation(s) which physical science +cannot or will not adequately confront. This failure to fairly +confront the evidence is due to the fact that serious scientific +examination of the observed phenomena implicitly requires that +established scientific belief systems must be reconsidered and +possibly altered (dread) to provide basic new explanations, +concepts and scientific laws capable of explaining UFOs. This +is analagous to asking the Pope to convert to Atheism. + + Rick +--------------------------------------- + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1384.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1384.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..62bfdb8e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1384.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,183 @@ +SUBJECT: LAKE ERIE SIGHTING - MUFON FILE: UFO1384 + + + + N.E. OHIO FLAP + by Richard P. Dell'Aquila + + Richard P. Dell'Aquila and Dale B. Wedge, MUFON State Section +Directors for Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga and Ashtabula Counties (Ohio) +have been investigating a series of sightings, beginning about March +4, 1988 and seemingly centered around the Perry Nuclear Plant, and the +CEI coal burning plant at Eastlake, both on the shore of Lake Erie, +east of Cleveland, Ohio. + March 4th was a clear, crisp night and the stars were clearly +visible, especially to the north over the lake where there are no city +lights. Venus and Jupiter were bright and in close proximity to each +other in the western sky. At about 6:30 P.M., S.B. (name and address +provided to MUFON) and her children were driving home to Eastlake +along the lake shore when they observed a large blimp-like object with +bright white lights at each end, hovering over the lake and rocking +end to end like a "teeter-totter." One light was brighter than the +other and was strobing. On arriving home, she asked her husband to +accompany her to the beach about 200 yards north for a closer view of +the object which they later described as "larger than a football held +at arm's length." + She and her husband walked onto the beach. The noiseless +object was gun metal gray and seemed to cause the ice on the lake to +rumble and crack loudly in an unusual way which frightened her. The +witnesses had to shout to be heard by each other, and were surprised +that no dogs were out barking as would have been expected. + After observing the object for a while, the couple became +concerned for the safety of their children in the car when the object +revolved slowly about 90 degrees, coming almost overhead (about 1/4 +mile high) and pointing its "front" end down toward them. They drove +the children home and continued watching the object from their living +room window which faces the lake. A neighbor was phoned and she and +her son went to the beach, reporting the same thing. They took +photographs which did not turn out. + The object began to descend and the witnesses returned to the +beach, where it was now observed to have red and blue blinking lights +along its bottom edge. It emitted 5 or 6 noiseless, intensly bright +yellow triangular lights from its side. They intermittently hovered +around the larger object, darted and zig-zagged into the night sky at +velocities far in excess of known aircraft. Mr. B stated the +triangular objects were smaller than a one-seat Cessna and "crossed 50 +mile stretches low over the ice in the snap of a finger." They were +said to be able to approach the shore, turn abrupt right angles due +east toward the Perry Nuclear Plant about 12 miles away, climbing +rapidly and returning again, all within several seconds. By this +time, a Coast Guard patrol vehicle had arrived on the beach in +response to S.B.'s several phone calls. + The triangular objects came closer to the shore, causing the +witnesses to become concerned that the lights on the Coast Guard +vehicle would attract the objects and the lights were turned off. The +triangles continued to fly off at high speed northward over the lake +and eastward toward the Perry Nuclear Plant. About an hour later, +they returned one at a time into the large ship, which then landed on +the ice. Several multi-colored lights now came on for about 5 minutes + + (Page 1 of 3) +on the bottom of the object "in a wave like a movie theater sign" and +the brighter white light on the end began strobing red and white. +When these went off, the ice stopped making noise and everything +became "dead silent." The object could no longer be seen within about +a half hour and it was assumed to have gone below the surface. The +next day, unusually huge pieces of broken ice were observed in the +area of the landing. + The Coast Guard informed Mr. and Mrs. B the following day +that the Army and NASA, whom S.B. had also phoned, instructed them not +to investigate the matter further or go out on the lake in their +cutter to examine the ice in the area of the landing, since the matter +was "out of their league and out of their hands." They informed the +couple that all information was being forwarded to Wright-Patterson +Air Force Base and a facility in Detroit, Michigan. In response to a +Coast Guard inquiry, Wright-Patterson refused to confirm or deny any +interest in these activities. + On the next night, the same witnesses observed several +triangular objects over the lake for about 45 minutes. By the time +Coast Guard personnel arrived on the scene, the objects were gone. + On March 7, 1988, the Cleveland Plain Dealer and Lake County +News-Herald carried articles which attributed a series of reports of +large brightly lit objects over Lake Erie on the prior weekend to +several witnesses' misidentification of the planets Venus and Jupiter. +The newspaper accounts indicated that the Fairport Harbor Coast Guard +went to the area and saw a large bright object that seemed to dispurse +smaller, bright multi-colored objects. But when they called the local +air traffic controllers, they were "informed" that Jupiter and Venus +were in alignment and that the colors were the result of "spontaneous +gas emissions from the two planets." One article even attributed this +amazing explanation to a professor of astronomy at a local university. + On reading the articles, Dell'Aquila felt it was unlikely +that U.S. Coast Guard personnel, trained in navigation and +identification of basic celestial objects such as the planets, could +have made such a gross misidentification. Likewise, the statement +attributed to the professor of astronomy was equally unacceptable, in +that no other similar "spontaneous gas emission" from the planets +cited, of the necessary magnitude, had ever been noted, particulary on +this weekend. + In the course of the follow-up investigation by Dell'Aquila +and Wedge, a Coast Guard incident report was found (presently in +MUFON's possession) which states that Coast Guard personnel responded +to several calls reporting UFOs over Lake Erie on the night of March +4, 1988. When the Coast Guard arrived, the report confirms that a +large object "dispersed 3-5 smaller flying objects that were zipping +around rather quickly. These objects had red, green white, and yellow +lights on them that strobed intermittently They also had the ability +to stop and hover in mid-flight." The incident report confirms Mr. +and Mrs. B's reports, including the abnormal cracking of the ice as +the object came closer to it and apparently landed. "The smaller +objects began hovering in the area where the large object landed +(about 1/4 mile east of the CEI power plant) and after a few minutes +they began flying around again." The report states that, "One of the +small objects turned on a spotlight where the large object had been, +but [the Coast Guard personnel] could not see anything, and then the +object seemed to disappear. Another object approached [these +personnel] approximately 500 yards offshore about 20 feet above the +ice, and it began moving closer as [the Coast Guard] began flashing +its headlights, then it moved off to the west." + + (Page 2 of 3) + A subsequent Coast Guard report (also in possession of MUFON) +prepared after the sightings of the following night attributes the +sightings to misidentifications of the planets Venus and Jupiter and +says, "the flashing lights are gases in the atmosphere...Request +incident closed this unit." In response to a classified advertisement +placed by the investigators, other witnesses contacted Dell'Aquila and +Wedge, and have been interviewed as the investigation continues. + On the same night (March 4th) at about 10:00 P.M., and +continuing until approximately 10:30 P.M., C.H. (name and address +provided to MUFON) also reported a UFO near her home, which is a few +miles south of the lake shore and just east of the Perry Nuclear +Plant. C.H. was walking a puppy when she noticed the stationary +triangular object in the southeasterly sky. It was much brighter than +the moon, and seemed to upset the puppy, which she took back indoors. +Returning outdoors, she reported that the object began sequentially +flashing multi-colored lights, suspended in rows below the base of the +triangle. The witness responded by flashing her cigarette lighter and +the UFO's light pattern became more erratic. At one point, the +triangle revolved clockwise, turning its apex about 90 degrees to a +horizontal position, but still flashing the rows of light. After +several minutes, it turned back counter-clockwise as it simultaneously +accelerated away to the south at a high rate of speed, disappearing +behind some trees. No noise or odor was reported. + At about 10:30 P.M. that night T.K. (name and address +provided to MUFON), took a photograph in his back yard, within a few +miles of the Perry Nuclear Plant, showing a portion of a brightly lit +triangular object travelling across the sky (Photograph in possession +of MUFON). This object was later confirmed by Mr. and Mrs. B and C.H. +to be identical to the triangular objects they were also observing +about the same time a few miles away, and is also similar to one +reported to Phil Imbrogno as having been near the Indian Point Nuclear +Power Plant in New York State on the same night. + T.K. and his friend were outdoors on the night of March 4th, +observing the stars through his telescope. Venus and Jupiter were +reported to be in the western sky behind a stand of trees. While +looking southward through the telescope, out of the corner of his left +eye, T.K. noticed a bright, moving object in the sky. He and his +friend were awe-struck by the triangular object, but he did have the +presence of mind to take 3 photographs with a small "snapshot" type +camera loaded with Kodak 110 color film, with which they had intended +to photograph stars through the telescope. Only one photograph +turned out. It is the last in the series, taken while +panning ahead of the object, and shows the front portion of the +triangle. The object was described as about 3-4 inches tall at arm's +length and glowing an intense yellow/orange to white, with a bright +orange/red glow behind it. It seemed to pulse brighter and dimmer, +moving in a roughly southwesterly direction until it was obscured by +trees. As it moved, it accelerated, slowed and accelerated again. No +sound or smell was noted, although his dog had a strong reaction, +running in circles and tugging on T.K.'s sleeve, apparently in an +attempt to urge him away from the object. Total time of observation +was a few minutes. + Dell'Aquila and Wedge continue to receive reports of +additional UFOs over the same period, some supported by photographs, +as the sightings continue to the date of this writing. Supplementary +reports will be provided as the investigation of the flap progresses. + + (Page 3 of 3) + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1385.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1385.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ad6cd327 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1385.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +SUBJECT: FIREBALL SIGHTED ? FILE: UFO1385 + + + +Date: 01-29-90 16:41 +From: Jerry Woody +To: All +Subj: What was it? + +Saturday night as reports of a green fire ball came in from the Eastern +Seaboard of the U.S. an object, thought to be a meteorite, crashed into a +womans' backyard in Fayetteville, Al in Talladega County. The woman said it +lit up the entire area as it fell. From T.V. the hole the object made +appeared to be app. 2 inches deep and 2-3 inches in radius. The ground around +it was charred and white ash was seen in the 'crater'. Anyone else have any +more detailed info on this event or of the Green fireball over the Eastern +U.S.? +Jerry. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1386.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1386.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..31a371fb --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1386.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO SIGHTING REPORT FORM FILE: UFO1386 + + + +Date of Sighting day/month/year?__/__/__ +Sighting Time - In the form of - Am or Pm + Time zone:__:__ __ /___ +Duration - In the form of - Seconds, Minutes or Hours:________ +Place of sighting - State/Province - County - City/Town - Country: +_____________________________________________ +Describe briefly the physical appearance of the object(s): +__________________________________________________________________ +__________________________________________________________________ +__________________________________________________________________ +Describe briefly the location of your sighting:_ +__________________________________________________________________ +__________________________________________________________________ +What made you first notice the object?____________________________ +What did you think the object was when you first saw it?__________ +Describe the object and its actions:______________________________ +__________________________________________________________________ +How did you lose the Object?______________________________________ +Name and Age:________________________________ ____________________ +Town/City/State:_________________________________________ +Special Training__________________________________________________ +Vision:_______________ +State if you are Colorblind or/and wear Eyeglasses:_______________ +Hearing: Good, Fair, Poor or user Aid?____________________________ +Health During Sighting:___________________________________________ +Health After Sighting:____________________________________________ + +ENVIRONMENTAL SITUATION: SELECT AS MANY ANSWERS AS APPLY:_ +------------------------------------------------------------------------ + +Viewed From:_ +[Outdoors] [Indoors] [Car] [Aircraft] [Boat] +[Other... explain]_ +__________________________________________________________________ +Viewed Through:_ +[Glasses] [Window] [Screen] [Binoculars] [Telescope] +[Still Camera] [Movie Camera] [Theodolite] [Radar] +[Other.. Explain]_ +__________________________________________________________________ +Area/Location:_ +[City] [Suburban] [Rural] [Industrial] +[Commercial] [Residential]_ +__________________________________________________________________ +Area/Terrain:_ +[Fields] [Woods] [Hills] [Mountains] [River] +[Pond] [Lake] +__________________________________________________________________ +Area/Technical: +[Airport] [Powerlines] [Power Station] +[Railroad Tracks] [Other... Explain] +__________________________________________________________________ +Sky Condition: +[Clear] [Partly Cloudy] [Overcast] [Foggy] +[Heavy] [Medium] [Light] +__________________________________________________________________ +Precipitation: +[None] [Rain] [Fog] [Sleet] [Snow] +[Heavy] [Medium] [Light] +__________________________________________________________________ +UFO Direction: +First seen in / Last saw in / Moved from __ to __: +UFO Elevation first seen: +[1/4] [1/2] [3/4] AND [Over Horizon] or [Overhead] +__________________________________________________________________ +UFO Elevation last seen: +[1/4] [1/2] [3/4] AND [Over Horizon] or [Overhead]:_______________ +UFO Distance when closest:_____________________ +UFO Altitude when Closest to ground:______________________________ +UFO passed in front of ____ Which was ___ distance from you +OR Behind ___ Which was ___ distance from you: +Also in Area: +[Airplane] [Helicopter] [Balloon] [Searchlight] +[Other ... explain] + [Before] [After] [During Sighting] +__________________________________________________________________ +Observed [An Object] or [A light]:________________________________ +From above question: Number of, Shape of and colors of... +__________________________________________________________________ +Describe Sound if any:____________________________________________ +Describe Smell if any:____________________________________________ +Describe Speed if any:____________________________________________ +Real size -- +[LARGER] [SMALLER] OR [SAME SIZE] --AS-- +[Basketball] [Compact car] [Standard Car] [House] +[Other.. Explain]:________________________________________________ +How many time LARGER or SMALLER then the size of a star?__________ +How many times LARGER or SMALLER than Moon?_______________________ +Bright as [Star] [Moon] or [___ if placed same distance]:________ +Did the Object(s) or Light(s) -- Choose as many as needed: +[Change Direction] [Hover] [Affect Radio/tv] [Flutter] +[Turn Abruptly] [Descend] [Affect Electricity] [Spin] +[Fall like leaf] [Ascend] [Affect Magnetism] [Blink] +[Absorb Object(s)] [Over Powerlines] [Affect Timepiece] +[Pulsate] [Eject Object(s)] [Over Building] [Affect Engine] +[Appear Solid] [Change Shape] [Land/ground] [Affect vehicle] +[Fuzzy Edges] [Cast Shadow] [Land/Water] [Affect Animal] +[Have Outline] [Cast Light] [Carry Occupants] [Affect Human] +[Wobble] [Reflect Light] [Communicate] [Affect Water] +[Vibrate] [Leave Trail] [Give Heat] [Affect Ground] +[Glow] [Disintegrate] [Leave Residue] +[Affect Vegetation] [Appear Transparent]: +___________________________________________________________________ +___________________________________________________________________ +How many other witnesses?__________________________________________ +Did any other agencies contact you?________________________________ +Current Date: month/day/year:__/__/__ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1387.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1387.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9a41d919 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1387.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +SUBJECT: FYFFE, AL. SIGHTINGS NATIONAL ENQUIRER REPORT FILE: UFO1387 + + + +The following text file from National Enquirer.... + + SMALL SOUTHERN TOWN IS NAMED THE UFO CAPITAL OF THE WORLD + +Even the police chief swears he has seen a flying saucer in a small +southern town that has become the UFO capital of the world. + --------------------------- + +Worldwide attention focused on Fyffe, Alabama, population 1,400, recently +after police chief Junior Garmany and assistant chief Fred Works spotted a +crescent-shaped UFO a few miles west of town. + +The officers followed the object for 12 miles, keeping in contact with other +departments in surrounding towns where reports of the UFO were flooding in. + + SAME DISTANCE + +"It seemed to always stay the same distance ahead of us", Garmany told +reporters. + +On their return to Fyffe, the two officers pulled to the side of the road and +got out of their car. + +Works said: "We saw an object low on the horizon which looked like an airplane +to begin with. It came right straight towards us and went straight overhead +at about 1,500 feet." + +He added: "It appeared to have had three big floodlights or something on the +bottom of the object. The UFO never made a sound. It appeared oblong, +roundish". + +A nearby Lickskillet resident was so frightened, he fired a shotgun at the +object as it passed overhead at treetop level. + +Days later, two Grove Oaks residents, six miles north of Fyffe, watched a UFO +as "big as a house" hover over treetops near their home. + +And Bonnie Bishop and her son reportedly saw a UFO in woods behind their +Silverhill, Alabama, home that did the strangest thing. + +They claim a door underneath the object slid open and a large beam of light +lit up the ground as if it were searching for something. + +Said Bonnie: "It never made a sound". + +By Wayne Ruple + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1388.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1388.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..fc59a749 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1388.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ +SUBJECT: LAS VEGAS PILOT KILLED CHASING SAUCER FILE: UFO1388 + + + +From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Jan. 8, 1948 + + PILOT KILLED WHILE CHASING FLYING SAUCER + + FORT KNOX, Ky, Jan 8 (INS) - Kentucky National Guard head- +guarters revealed today that a Louisville pilot killed in the +explosion of his plane yesterday afternoon was engaged in a hunt +for "flying saucers" at the time. + + The victim was 25-year old Captain Thomas Mantell Jr., who was +returning from a training flight to Atlanta when he received +radio instructions to investigate the reported "saucer". + + Captain Mantell was killed when his plane exploded and crashed +near Franklin, Kentucky. National Guard headquarters emphasized, +however, that in it's opinion there was no connection between the +planes explosion and the flying object it was seeking to +investigate. + + Meanwhile, Godman Field commanding officer Col. Guy F. Hix +revealed that a group of Louisville scientists will join him in +watching the skies for a possible reappearance of the "flying +saucers" reported over Kentucky yesterday. + + The colonel said he wanted to determine whether the object- or +objects-seen yesterday afternoon could have been a planet or some +other celestial object. + + Col. Hix said that the air defense command at New York had +asked for a complete report of the "saucers and that he wanted +to check every possibility of determining their identity. + + It was very definite that something was seen by Kentuckians. +For the reports came from too many different persons in scattered +localities to have been the result of someones imagination. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1389.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1389.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7ab343d3 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1389.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +SUBJECT: BAKERSFIELD, CA. SAUCER REPORT FILE: UFO1389 + + + +From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, July 2, 1947 + + ANOTHER MAN SAYS HE SAW "SKY SAUCERS" + +Portland, Ore., July 2. Richard Rankin, Palm Springs, California, +pilot, reports he saw 10 "flying saucers" over Bakersfield, +California, June 23. + + "These planes were maybe 9,000 feet up and fairly fast, maybe +300 or 400 miles an hour," Rankin said yesterday. + + "I first counted 10 of them in formation, going north. About +2:15 p.m. they returned on the reverse course, headed south, but +there were only 7 in the formation. + + "I couldn't make out the number or location of their propellers +and couldn't distinguish any wings at all. They appeared almost +round. They looked just like pictures of the Navy's Flying +Flapjack." + + Rankin said he hesitated to report what he saw until he read +that others had sighted the "saucers". + + The navy has reported it's "Flying Flapjack" plane has never +left Connecticut. + + Rankin, former Portland flyer with more than 7,000 hours +in the air, is a brother of the late Tex Rankin, stunt pilot. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1390.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1390.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e7ceda3e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1390.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +SUBJECT: GOVERNOR OF IDAHO SEES FLYING SAUCER FILE: UFO1390 + + + +From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, July 3, 1947 + + MORE "FLYING SAUCERS" REPORTED + + ARMY EXPERTS PUZZLED + + Persons in six states, including the lieutenant governor of +Idaho, today reported that they had seen the mysterious "flying +saucers". + + The projectiles, variously described as "too fast for an air- +plane and not fast enough for a falling star, not moving at all" +and "traveling at great speed," were reported seen again last +night streaking over Denver. + + It was the first report of the "saucers" in almost a week. +Persons in Oregon, California, New Mexico, and Idaho reported +seeing verious versions of the unexplained projectiles last week. + + << Lieutenant Governor Donald S. Whitehead of Idaho said today +that he saw a strange comet-like object hanging in the western +sky on June 24. That was the day Kenneth Arnold, Boise, Idaho +first reported seeing the projectiles over south-eastern +Washington. >> + + Their stories varied. Arnold had estimated the projectiles +speed at 1,200 miles an hour. Whitehead said the objects he and +three other witnesses saw "didn't move, but just seemed to go +below the horizon with the rotation of the earth". + + << WASHINGTON, JULY 3 (UP) Army research experts can't find +an explain the "flying saucers" reported in several states. But +they are investigating, they said. + + They are even considering the possibility, however remote, +that some foreign power may have something to do with the flying +discs. + + The army air forces checked all of their research authorities +and contractors. But none of them knew or could suggest anything +concrete about the saucers. >> + + At Denver, Henry Martin and Walter Harrod said they caught a +brief glimpse of a group of "bright objects" flying at about +5,000 feet last night. Martin said they looked like coffee can +tops. They were traveling in a south-westerly direction, he said. + + State Highway Patrol Sergeant David Menary, of San Francisco's +Golden Gate bridge detail, reported seeing about a dozen bright +metal objects "about the size of a football" whizz over San +Francisco Bay yesterday and fall into the sea. + + Dick Rankin, former Portland, Oregon flyer said he saw the +discs high over Bakersfield, California going from 300 to 400 +miles an hour June 23. There were 10 of them in formation, flying +north, he said. + + Three metalic gleaming were reported seen for the first time +in Southern California by Mrs. Ernest Michel of Beverly Hills and +her daughter, Marian. "They were going around and around in a +circle," Mrs. Michel said. "We watched them for 10 minutes before +they disappeared." + + Tiny, meteor-like tails were "clearly discernible," she said. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1391.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1391.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..607f624b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1391.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,165 @@ +SUBJECT: SAUCERS SPOTTED IN 36 STATES FILE: UFO1391 + + + +From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, July 7, 1947 + + FLYING SAUCERS HAVE U.S. "NUTS" SEEN EVERYWHERE + + SAN FRANCISCO, July 7 (AP) - From one end of the country to +the other, new reports of disc-like "flying saucers" skimming +through the skies today added to the mystery which has baffeled +the nation since June 25. + + There were no satisfactory explaination of the phenomenon. The +saucers were first reported seen in the state of Washington on +June 25. Then persons in other western states said they had seen +them. The peak came over the July 4 holiday, when they were first +reported seen east of the Mississippi. + + The latest tabulation showed the mystery objects had been +reported seen in 36 states, the District of Columbia and in +Canada. + + Yesterday they were reported seen in more than a dozen states +and in south-western Ontario. + + An aerial patrol by the Oregon National Guard failed to sight +one of the objects. The guard planned to send a plane today to a +spot near St. Maries, Idaho, where a woman said 10 persons saw +eight of the discs disappear in timber on July 3. + + Kenneth Arnold, businessman-pilot of Boise, Idaho, first +reported seeing the discs. He said he saw 9 flying in formation +at 1,200 miles an hour over the Cascade mountains. Other observers +have given the objects varing speeds. In at least one case they +seemed to be suspended in the air. + + KNOCKS ONE DOWN + +BOZEMAN Mont., July 7 (UP) - A P-38 pilot reported today that he +knocked down a "flying saucer" - he called it a "flying yoyo" - +yesterday over the Tobacco Root mountains in Western Montana. + + Vernon Baird, Los Angeles, pilot for the Fairchild Photo- +grammetric Engineer's company, said he tangled with the "yoyo" +while flying a P-38 for the firm. The company is mapping the area +between Helena and Yellowstone Park for the reclamation bureau. + + Baird said he and his photographer, George Suttin, Los Angeles +were flying 360 miles an hour at 32,400 feet when he turned to +check an oil distribution mechanism. + + "There about 100 yards behind me was the yoyo," Baird said. + + "It was a pearl-gray clam-shaped airplane, with a plexiglass +dome on top. It was about 15 feet in diameter and about 4 feet +thick". + + The curious yoyo overhauled the P-38 and Baird took evasive +action. + + "The yoyo got caught in my propwash and the thing came apart +like a clamshell. The two pieces spiraled down somewhere in the +Madison Range. + + Baird said that after the yoyo fell apart he looked around and +saw several of them darting around "like a batch of molecules +doing the rumba." + + Baird said he was too busy handeling his plane to notice if +there was a man inside the gadget. + + His photographer didn't think about his camera until it was +too late to get a picture, Baird said. + + PORT COSTA, Calif., July 7 (AP) - The phenomenon of the flying +saucers may be linked in some mysterious manner with the economic +trend, Ralph Dinsmore reported today. + + Soberly, he noted that he had observed a formation of flying +saucers in the vicinity of Mt. Diablo: "The middle saucer seemed +to have an object on it that looked like a cup of coffee. +Traveling behind the one with the coffee was another with a sign +that said 5 cents. As I watched, the 5 cent sign seemed to give +way to a 10 cent figure and at the same time the amount of +coffee in the saucer cup grew considerably less. The sugar shrank +noticably and the cream disappeared entirely." + + Three San Leandro policemen said they saw a flying saucer last +night. It approached from the west, they related, hovered over +San Leandro at a height of 10,000 feet for half an hour, then +disappeared. Oakland and San Leandro police received several +telephone calls during this period from residents who declared, +they too, had seen the flying aerial platter. + + Private First Class Robert O'Hara of Hamilton Field, Marin +County said he saw a 40 foot disc over the field. He estimated +it's altitude at 6,000 feet. + + Frank Tylman, a construction engineer and WWI flyer, said he +and his son, Danny, 9, saw a saucer at 8:20 a.m., Sunday, 2 miles +west of Pittsburg, Contra Costa County. + + "It was shooting towards Mt. Diablo," Tyman stated. "It +revolved in a counter-clockwise direction, as he viewed it.It was +probably 3,000 feet up and appeared to move faster than a jet +plane. It might have had the span of a P-80, was silver in color, +circular in shape, and had difinite thickness, being curved +outward on both upper and lower surfaces. It left no smoke or +vapor behind it." + + + BY UNITED PRESS + + Army pilots went aloft today for another search for the +mysterious "flying saucers" now reported seen in 31 states and +parts of Canada. + + Equiped with telescopic cameras, 11 army planes searched the +Pacific Northwest yesterday without finding any trace of the +flying discs which had been reported over scores of communities +the preceding two days. + + REDWOOD CITY, Calif., July 4 (AP) - A flight of about 30 +flying saucers was observed at 10:35 a.m. (PST) today over the +San Carlos area, Stanley Miramon and his mother, Mrs. Marie +Maranta reported. + + Miramon said the group circled over one spot northeast of San +Carlos, at an altitude of 2,000 feet. They were round, silvery in +color, and "about the size of an automobile." + + He said a two engine transport plane was in the same general +area and it appeared the pilot saw the "things" and headed toward +them. + + Miramon said he ran into the house to telephone a newspaper, +and by the time he returned to the street the objects were gone. + + + NEW TWIST + + PALMDALE, Calif. July 7 (UP) - Mrs. Amy Herdliska reported a +new twist on the nation's mysterious "flying saucers" today. + + She told the sheriff's office she saw a "parent disc" leading +five smaller discs over the mountains. The smaller ones, she said +seemed to fly away from the larger disc then return and seemed to +be absorbed by it. Like baby chicks hiding under a mother hen's +wings. + + SONOMA, Calif., July 7 (UP) - General H. H. (Hap) Arnold, head +of the army air forces during WWII, said today the discs could be +a development of United States scientisits not yet perfected. + + He also speculated that they could be the development of some +foreign scientists and were operating out of control. + + The general's third guess was just plain jet fighting planes. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1392.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1392.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7cf90c33 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1392.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +SUBJECT: CALIFORNIA SHERIFF SPOTS FLYING SAUCER FILE: UFO1392 + + + +From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, July 8, 1947 + + SAUCER TALES + + WAGS HAVE FIELD DAY WITH DISKS + By United Press + + Flying saucers whirled back and forth, up and down and out to +sea over Southern California today, sporting like fish and giving +off low whistles. + + Waggish skywriters added to the excitement by painting two +circles and the word saucers in mile-long letters. + +<< AVENAL, Calif., July 8 (UP) - Deputy Sheriff Weldon Sams was +driving through a quiet residential area here Sunday when a +flying disk whizzed past his windshield. + + He stopped. A second flying saucer came even closer. It was +about the size of a pie pan. + + He looked around. It was a pie pan. + + The deputy sheriff said he found he was in the middle of a +family argument. A young housewife was having a dispute about +who would do the dishes. + + The argument led to crockery throwing, the husband fled the +house - and Sams ended up in the middle. >> + + + One spinning platter was reported to have crashed in a grove +of almond trees near Lancaster. + + "Fifteen or 20 trees were set afire" a witness" said. + + Ranch owner Fritz Godde said it wasn't so. + + The saucers looked like "silvery eggs in a straight line" to +Redlands truck driver H.J. Stell who saw eight of them swishing +towards March Field at 6:12 a.m. yesterday. + + Riverside Rancher R.V. Allen said "a whole school" of the +objects passed overhead near Ontario. + + "They played about in the air like perch do in water," he said. + + Platters sailed over A.B. Runner's Ontario home "so low I could +hear the motor." + + Evelyn Keel said 15 persons saw 2 saucers yesterday morning +from the back lot of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayers Culver City studio. + + "They kept circling higher and higher until they disappeared," +she said. "You may think I'm nuts." + + Jerry McAdams said he saw a disc "big as a house" flying north +over Coldwater Canyon Park, Beverly Hills, yesterday afternoon. + + "It seemed to give off a low whistle as it disappeared, he said. + + One man said he saw 6 disks "the size of small plates" hover +over a power line when he went outside to find the cause of +static in his radio. + + Hall Hibbard, Lockheed vice-president in charge of engineering +said he knew of no secret aviation projects which would have the +slightest bearing on the disks. + + "They're either reflections from planes or the result of mass +hysteria and the desire of various persons to get their names in +the paper," he said. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1393.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1393.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4707a7fd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1393.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +SUBJECT: PILOTS SEE ALABAMA FLYING SAUCER FILE: UFO1393 + + + +From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, July 25, 1948 + + VET PILOTS REPORT SEEING + MYSTERY SHIP IN ALABAMA + +ATLANTA, Ga., July 24 (UP) - Two Eastern Airlines pilots reported +today that their plane last night passed a tremendous wingless +aircraft that shot a 40 foot flame out it's back end and traveled +between 500 and 700 miles an hour. + +Captain Clarence Chiles and his co-pilot, John B. Whitted, told +of seeing the fantastic airship and said it looked like a B-29 +fuselage "blown up about 4 times." + +The aircraft was brilliantly lighted and had two decks of big, +square windows, they claimed. It passed within several hundred +feet of the pilot's DC-3 and then shot up in the clouds, they +said. + +"We were crusing about 20 miles southwest of Montgomery, Alabama" +said Captain Chiles who was an ATC ferry pilot for 4 years during +the war. + +"We looked out of the right side of the cockpit and saw a +tremendous light. The first thing that came to my attention was +the long stream of flame coming out of the rear end of the plane, +or whatever it was." + +"Then I noticed the two rows of square windows-it was a man-made +thing, alright. We couldn't see any people aboard. It was +traveling too fast for that." + +"The aircraft seemed to be about 4 times the circunference of a +B-29 fuselage, but it was only a little longer," Chiles said. +"There were no wings whatsoever." + +"The plane passed us on our right, then, as if the pilot had seen +us and wanted to avoid us, it zoomed up into the same cloud it +had come out of. A 40 foot flame shot out it's rear end. A +luminous glow, like a giant flourescent light, ran along the +belly of the thing." + +Whitted, who said he had seen the air forces's best jet planes +not on the secret list, estimated it's speed as much faster than +he had seen before. + +"I'd say that when it shot up into the clouds it was going +between 500 and 700 miles an hour," Whitted said. "I've seen +real shooting stars and meteors-they look pretty close when you +are a pilot-but I've never seen anything like this." + +Whitted added that as a B-29 pilot over Japan he had looked +kamikaze suicide planes in the face and been attacked by "balls +of fire"-Japanese jet planes. + +As the aircraft passed them, they said, their comparatively small +DC-3 fluttered in the "propwash or "rocket-wash". The pilots said. +"It sent out tremendous shock waves." + +The brilliant light of the airship and the flame of it's +propellant brought "lightning blindness" to their cockpit, the +pilots said, they had to turn up their instrument lights to read +them. + + +KENNETT SQUARE, Pa., July 24 (UP) - C.L. McKelvie, Columbus, Ohio +a passenger in an Eastern Airlines plane whose pilot reported +seeing a phantom ship in the skies near Montgomery. Alabama, said +today he saw a definite light "but no space ship" at the time. + + +WASHINGTON, July 24 (UP) - Air Force officials said today they +could not throw any light on the mystery of a tremendous wingless +aircraft reported seen over the vicinity of Montgomery, Alabama. + +An air firce spokesman said that "obviously" this country has no +plane resembling what two Eastern Air Lines pilots described as +a double decked, jet propelled, wingless transport shooting a 40 +foot flame out the back end. + +They suggested the possibility that it might have been a civilian +version of the Boeing C-97 transport. A plane of this type is +believed to be undergoing tests now somewhere in the south. + + +SEATTLE, July 24 (UP) - William M. Allen, president of the Boeing +Airplane Company, said today he was "pretty sure" the giant +aircraft reported seen by the two Eastern Air Lines pilots last +night was "not one of our planes." + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1394.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1394.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..be39ecbd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1394.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +SUBJECT: SIGHTING REPORTS FOR JULY 1989 FILE: UFO1394 + + + + JULY 1989 UFO REPORTS + +7/02 BELLINGHAM, MA. MIDNITE CE1 Single witness + Basketball sized OBOL's in woods, 5 came within 70'. No sound. +7/03 ANZA VALLEY, CA. 11:30 PM NL Two witnesses + Enormous craft, "like sgt's stripes" sped toward lake. No sound. +7/09 ANZA VALLEY, CA. 12:05 AM NL Two witnesses + Couple saw strange lights on rocky hill where no vehicles could go. + No sound. Seven minutes duration. +7/10 WOODLAND, CA. 2:00 AM NL Two witnesses + Object flashing 2 or 3 greem & white lights. No sound. +7/15 SIOUX FALLS, S.D. 8:20 PM DD Four witnesses + Dark object with flat ends. Hoovered. Ten minutes. No sound. +7/15 ITHACA, N.Y. 10:00 PM NL Multiple witness + Sounds like NIGHT SIEGE all over again. 80 calls to pol. Noise. 7 min. +7/16 MIDWEST 1:15 AM Booster re-entry + NORAD/On SE path & visible for approximately 30 seconds. +7/16 MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. XXXXX NL Two witnesses + Two witnesses took video of enormous ball of fire. Listed last month. +7/16 N. CHARLESTON, N.C. 1:35 AM NL Multiple witness + Many people fishing in several locations saw object. No sound. +7/16 CHARLESTON, S.C. 1:30 AM NL Multiple witness + Dark shapeless object, 300 to 500' long w/sparks at 1500'. No sound. +7/16 NEW HARMONY, IN. 10:15 PM CE1 Single witness + Giant round object at tree-top level lit up area. Hoovered, then + floated. No sound. 2 minutes. +7/16 TYBEE ISLE, S.C. 2:00 AM NL Single witness + Large fireball reported by policeman. No sound. Seconds. +7/16 HILTON HD ISLE, S.C. 1:30 AM NL Single witness + Fireball, witness said not a meteor. No sound. Seconds. +7/16 SAVANNAH, S.C. 1:30 AM NL Multiple witness + FAA & Charleston airport received numerous calls. No sound. Seconds. +7/16 GEORGETOWN, S.C. 1:45 AM NL Five witnesses + Swimmers saw object, bright in front, tail in back, with white lines + on sides. No sound. +7/18 DUTTON, AL. MIDNITE NL Two witnesses + Light observed before thunderstorm, warned by psychic. No sound. +7/22 TRENTON, ME. 3:00 AM DD Two witnesses + Pilots of Beechcraft saw oblong UFO over Bass Harnor. Power outage on + ground. No sound. 2 minutes. +7/25 SMITHTOWN, N.Y. 9:30 PM NL Three witnesses + Witnesses heard helicopters, saw one chansing red/orange ball. 90 sec. +7/26 HONEDALE, PA. 1:00 AM CE1 Three witnesses + Round object, two sightings within an hour. Sound. 1 hour. +7/XX LANDING, N.J. 3:30 AM CE1 Three witnesses + 13 to 15 ft. silver disc. No sound. 10 seconds. + + + +The preceeding courtesy of: + +Barbara Becker / UFO Research Network / P.O. Box 19744 / St. Louis, Mo. 63144 +Fran Ridge / UFO Filter Ctr. / 618 Davis Dr. / Mt. Vernon, In. 47620 + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1395.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1395.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9bd52c61 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1395.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,170 @@ +SUBJECT: 3/88 WITNESSES INTERVIEWS, LAKE ERIE FILE: UFO1395 + + + +N.E. OHIO FLAP by Richard P. Dell'Aquila + + Richard P. Dell'Aquila and Dale B. Wedge, MUFON State Section +Directors for Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga and Ashtabula Counties (Ohio) have +been investigating a series of sightings, beginning about March 4, 1988 +and seemingly centered around the Perry Nuclear Plant, and the CEI coal +burning plant at Eastlake, both on the shore of Lake Erie, east of +Cleveland, Ohio. March 4th was a clear, crisp nigh t and the stars were +clearly visible, especially to the north over the lake where there are no +city. + +lights. Venus and Jupiter were bright and in close proximity to each +other in the western sky. At about 6:30 P.M., S.B. (name and address +provided to MUFON) and her children were driving home to Eastlake along the +lake shore when they observed a large blimp-like object with bright white +lights at each end, hovering over the lake and rocking end to end l ike a +"teeter-totter." One light was brighter t han the other and was strobing. +On arriving home, she asked her husband to accompany her to the beach about +200 yards north for a closer view of the object which they later described +as "larger than a football held at arm's length." She and her husband +walked onto the beach. The noiseless object was gun metal gray and seemed +to cause the ice on the lake to rumble and crack loudly in an unusual way +which frightened her. The witnesses had to shout to be heard by ea ch +other, and were surpr ised that no dogs were out barking as would have been +expected. + +After observing the object for a while, the couple became concerned for +the safety of their children in the car when the object revolved slowly +about 90 degrees, coming almost overhead (about 1/4 mile high) and pointing +its "front" end down toward them. They drove the children home and +continued watching the object from their living room window which fac es +the lake. A neighbor was phoned and she and her son went to the beach, +reporting the same thing. They took photographs which did not turn out. +The object began to descend and the witnesses returned to the beach, where +it was now observed to have red and blue blinking lights along its bottom +edge. It emitted 5 or 6 noiseless, intensly bright yellow triangular +lights from its side. They intermittently hovered around the larger +object, darted and zig-zagged into the night sky at velocities far in +excess of known aircraft. Mr. B stated the triangular objects we re smaller +than a one-seat Cessna and "crossed 50 mile stretches low over the ice in +the snap of a finger." They were said to be able to approach the shore, +turn abrupt right angles due east toward the Perry Nuclear Plant about 12 +miles away, climbing rapidly and returning again, all within several +seconds. By this time, a Coast Guard patrol vehicle had arrived on the +beach in response to S.B.'s several phone calls. The triangular objects +came closer t o the shore, causing the witnesses to become concerned that +the lights on the Coast Guard vehicle would attract the objects and the +lights were turned off. The triangles continued to fly off at high speed +northward over the lake and eastward toward the Perry Nuclear Plant. About +an hour later, they returned one at a time into the large ship, which then +landed on the ice. Several multi-colored lights now came on for about 5 +minutes +(Page 1 of 3) on the bottom of the object "in a wave like a mo vie theater +sign" and the brighter white light on the end began strobing red and white. + +When these went off, the ice stopped making noise and everything became +"dead silent." The object could no longer be seen within about a half hour +and it was assumed to have gone below the surface. The next day, unusually +huge pieces of broken ice were observed in the area of the landing. + +The Coast Guard informed Mr. and Mrs. B the followi ng day that the Army +and NASA, whom S.B. had also phoned, instructed them no t to investigate +the matter further or go out on the lake in their cutter to examine the ice +in the area of the landing, since the matter was "out of their league and +out of their hands." They informed the couple that all information was +being forwarded to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and a facility in +Detroit, Michigan. In response to a Coast Guard inquiry, Wright-Patterson +refused to confirm or deny any interest in these activities. O n the next +night, the same witnesses observed sever al triangular objects over the +lake for about 45 minutes. By the time Coast Guard personnel arrived on +the scene, the objects were gone. On March 7, 1988, the Cleveland Plain +Dealer and Lake County News-Herald carried articles which attributed a +series of reports of large brightly lit objects over Lake Erie on the prior +weekend to several witnesses'misidentification of the planets Venus and +Jupiter. The newspaper accounts indicated that the Fairport Harbor Coast +Guard went to the area and saw a large bright object that seemed to +dispurse smaller, bright multi-colored objects. But when they called the +local air traffic controllers, they were "informed" that Jupiter and Venus +were in alignment and that the colors were the result of "spontaneous gas +emissions from the two planets." One article even attributed this amazing +explanation to a professor of astronomy at a local university. On reading +the articles, Dell'Aquila felt it was unlikely that U.S. Coast Guard +personnel, trained in navigation and identification of basic celestial +objects such as the planets, could have made such a gross +misidentification. Likewise, the statement attributed to the professor of +astronomy was equally unacceptable, in that no other similar "spontaneous +gas emission" from the planets cited, of the necessary magnitude, had ever +been noted, particulary on this weekend. In the course of the follow-up +investigation by Dell'Aquila and Wedge, a Coast Guard incident report was +found (p res ently in MUFON's possession) which states that Coast Guard +personnel responded to several calls reporting UFOs over Lake Erie on the +night of March 4, 1988. When the Coast Guard arrived, the report confirms +that a large object "dispersed 3-5 smaller flying objects that were zipping +around rather quickly. These objects had red, green white, and yellow +lights on them that strobed intermittently. They also had the ability to +stop and hover in mid-flight." The incident report confirms Mr. and Mrs. B +'s reports, including the abnormal cracking of the ice as the object came +closer to it and apparently landed. "The smaller objects began hovering in +the area where the large object landed (about 1/4 mile east of the CEI +power plant) and after a few minutes they began flying around again." The +report states that, "One of the small objects turned on a spotlight where +the large object had been, but [the Coast Guard personnel] could not see +anything, and then the object seemed to disappear. Another ob ject +approached [these personnel] approximately 500 yards offshore about 20 feet +above the ice, and it began moving closer as [the Coast Guard] began +flashing its headlights, then it moved off to the west." +(Page 2 of 3) + A subsequent Coast Guard report (also in possession of MUFON) prepared +after the sightings of the following night attributes the sightings to +misidentifications of the planets Venus and Jupiter and says, "the fla +shing lights are gases in the at mosphere...Request incident closed this +unit." In response to a classified advertisement placed by the +investigators, other witnesses contacted Dell'Aquila and Wedge, and +have been interviewed as the investigation continues. On the same night +(March 4th) at about 10:00 P.M., and continuing until approximately 10:30 +P.M., C.H. (name and address provided to MUFON) also reported a UFO near +her home, which is a few miles south of the lake shore and just east of +the Perr y Nuclear Plant. C.H. was walking a puppy when she noticed the +stationary triangular object in the southeasterly sky. It was much +brighter than the moon, and seemed to upset the puppy, which she took back +indoors. Returning outdoors, she reported that the object began +sequentially flashing multi-colored lights, suspended in rows below the +base of the triangle. The witness responded by flashing her cigarette +lighter and the UFO's light pattern beca me more erratic. At one point, +the triangle revolved clockwise, turning it s apex about 90 degrees to +a horizontal position, but still flashing the rows of light. After several +minutes, it turned back counter-clockwise as it simultaneously accelerated +away to the south at a high rate of speed, disappearing behind some trees. +No noise or odor was reported. At about 10:30 P.M. that night T.K. (name +and address provided to MUFON), took a photograph in his back yard, within +a few miles of the Perry Nuclear Plant, showing a portion of a brightly lit +triangular object travelling across the sky (Photograph in possession of +MUFON). This object was later confirmed by Mr. and Mrs. B and C.H. to be +identical to the triangular objects they were also observing about the same +time a few miles away, and is also similar to one reported to Phil +Imbrogno as having been near the Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant in New +York State on the same night. T.K. and his friend were outdoors on the +night of March 4th, observing the stars throu gh his telescope. Venus and +Jupiter were reported to be in the western sky behind a stand of trees. +While looking southward through the telescope, out of the corner of his +left eye, T.K. noticed a bright, moving object in the sky. He and his +friend were awe-struck by the triangular object, but he did have the +presence of mind to take 3 photographs with a small "snapshot" type camera +loaded with Kodak 110 color film, with which they had intended to +photograph stars through the telescope. Only one photograph turned out. It +is the l ast in the series, taken while panning ahead of the object, and +shows the front portion of the triangle. The object was described as about +3-4 inches tall at arm's length and glowing an intense yellow/orange to +white, with a bright orange/red glow behind it. It seemed to pulse +brighter and dimmer, moving in a roughly southwesterly direction until it +was obscured by trees. As it moved, it accelerated, slowed and accelerated +again. No sound or smell was noted, although his dog had a strong reaction +, running in circles and tugging on T.K.'s sleeve, apparently in an attempt +to urge him away from the object. + +Total time of observation was a few minutes. Dell'Aquila and Wedge continue +to receive reports of additional UFOs over the same period, some supported +by photographs, as the sightings continue to the date of this writing. +Supplementary reports will be provided as the investigation of the flap +progresses. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1396.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1396.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..fcf57743 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1396.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,170 @@ +SUBJECT: 3/88 LAKE ERIE UFO REPORT - MUFON FILE: UFO1396 + + + + +N.E. OHIO FLAP by Richard P. Dell'Aquila + + Richard P. Dell'Aquila and Dale B. Wedge, MUFON State Section +Directors for Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga and Ashtabula Counties (Ohio) have +been investigating a series of sightings, beginning about March 4, 1988 +and seemingly centered around the Perry Nuclear Plant, and the CEI coal +burning plant at Eastlake, both on the shore of Lake Erie, east of +Cleveland, Ohio. March 4th was a clear, crisp nigh t and the stars were +clearly visible, especially to the north over the lake where there are no +city. + +lights. Venus and Jupiter were bright and in close proximity to each +other in the western sky. At about 6:30 P.M., S.B. (name and address +provided to MUFON) and her children were driving home to Eastlake along the +lake shore when they observed a large blimp-like object with bright white +lights at each end, hovering over the lake and rocking end to end l ike a +"teeter-totter." One light was brighter t han the other and was strobing. +On arriving home, she asked her husband to accompany her to the beach about +200 yards north for a closer view of the object which they later described +as "larger than a football held at arm's length." She and her husband +walked onto the beach. The noiseless object was gun metal gray and seemed +to cause the ice on the lake to rumble and crack loudly in an unusual way +which frightened her. The witnesses had to shout to be heard by ea ch +other, and were surpr ised that no dogs were out barking as would have been +expected. + +After observing the object for a while, the couple became concerned for +the safety of their children in the car when the object revolved slowly +about 90 degrees, coming almost overhead (about 1/4 mile high) and pointing +its "front" end down toward them. They drove the children home and +continued watching the object from their living room window which fac es +the lake. A neighbor was phoned and she and her son went to the beach, +reporting the same thing. They took photographs which did not turn out. +The object began to descend and the witnesses returned to the beach, where +it was now observed to have red and blue blinking lights along its bottom +edge. It emitted 5 or 6 noiseless, intensly bright yellow triangular +lights from its side. They intermittently hovered around the larger +object, darted and zig-zagged into the night sky at velocities far in +excess of known aircraft. Mr. B stated the triangular objects we re smaller +than a one-seat Cessna and "crossed 50 mile stretches low over the ice in +the snap of a finger." They were said to be able to approach the shore, +turn abrupt right angles due east toward the Perry Nuclear Plant about 12 +miles away, climbing rapidly and returning again, all within several +seconds. By this time, a Coast Guard patrol vehicle had arrived on the +beach in response to S.B.'s several phone calls. The triangular objects +came closer t o the shore, causing the witnesses to become concerned that +the lights on the Coast Guard vehicle would attract the objects and the +lights were turned off. The triangles continued to fly off at high speed +northward over the lake and eastward toward the Perry Nuclear Plant. About +an hour later, they returned one at a time into the large ship, which then +landed on the ice. Several multi-colored lights now came on for about 5 +minutes +(Page 1 of 3) on the bottom of the object "in a wave like a mo vie theater +sign" and the brighter white light on the end began strobing red and white. + +When these went off, the ice stopped making noise and everything became +"dead silent." The object could no longer be seen within about a half hour +and it was assumed to have gone below the surface. The next day, unusually +huge pieces of broken ice were observed in the area of the landing. + +The Coast Guard informed Mr. and Mrs. B the followi ng day that the Army +and NASA, whom S.B. had also phoned, instructed them no t to investigate +the matter further or go out on the lake in their cutter to examine the ice +in the area of the landing, since the matter was "out of their league and +out of their hands." They informed the couple that all information was +being forwarded to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and a facility in +Detroit, Michigan. In response to a Coast Guard inquiry, Wright-Patterson +refused to confirm or deny any interest in these activities. O n the next +night, the same witnesses observed sever al triangular objects over the +lake for about 45 minutes. By the time Coast Guard personnel arrived on +the scene, the objects were gone. On March 7, 1988, the Cleveland Plain +Dealer and Lake County News-Herald carried articles which attributed a +series of reports of large brightly lit objects over Lake Erie on the prior +weekend to several witnesses'misidentification of the planets Venus and +Jupiter. The newspaper accounts indicated that the Fairport Harbor Coast +Guard went to the area and saw a large bright object that seemed to +dispurse smaller, bright multi-colored objects. But when they called the +local air traffic controllers, they were "informed" that Jupiter and Venus +were in alignment and that the colors were the result of "spontaneous gas +emissions from the two planets." One article even attributed this amazing +explanation to a professor of astronomy at a local university. On reading +the articles, Dell'Aquila felt it was unlikely that U.S. Coast Guard +personnel, trained in navigation and identification of basic celestial +objects such as the planets, could have made such a gross +misidentification. Likewise, the statement attributed to the professor of +astronomy was equally unacceptable, in that no other similar "spontaneous +gas emission" from the planets cited, of the necessary magnitude, had ever +been noted, particulary on this weekend. In the course of the follow-up +investigation by Dell'Aquila and Wedge, a Coast Guard incident report was +found (p res ently in MUFON's possession) which states that Coast Guard +personnel responded to several calls reporting UFOs over Lake Erie on the +night of March 4, 1988. When the Coast Guard arrived, the report confirms +that a large object "dispersed 3-5 smaller flying objects that were zipping +around rather quickly. These objects had red, green white, and yellow +lights on them that strobed intermittently. They also had the ability to +stop and hover in mid-flight." The incident report confirms Mr. and Mrs. B +'s reports, including the abnormal cracking of the ice as the object came +closer to it and apparently landed. "The smaller objects began hovering in +the area where the large object landed (about 1/4 mile east of the CEI +power plant) and after a few minutes they began flying around again." The +report states that, "One of the small objects turned on a spotlight where +the large object had been, but [the Coast Guard personnel] could not see +anything, and then the object seemed to disappear. Another ob ject +approached [these personnel] approximately 500 yards offshore about 20 feet +above the ice, and it began moving closer as [the Coast Guard] began +flashing its headlights, then it moved off to the west." +(Page 2 of 3) + A subsequent Coast Guard report (also in possession of MUFON) prepared +after the sightings of the following night attributes the sightings to +misidentifications of the planets Venus and Jupiter and says, "the fla +shing lights are gases in the at mosphere...Request incident closed this +unit." In response to a classified advertisement placed by the +investigators, other witnesses contacted Dell'Aquila and Wedge, and +have been interviewed as the investigation continues. On the same night +(March 4th) at about 10:00 P.M., and continuing until approximately 10:30 +P.M., C.H. (name and address provided to MUFON) also reported a UFO near +her home, which is a few miles south of the lake shore and just east of +the Perr y Nuclear Plant. C.H. was walking a puppy when she noticed the +stationary triangular object in the southeasterly sky. It was much +brighter than the moon, and seemed to upset the puppy, which she took back +indoors. Returning outdoors, she reported that the object began +sequentially flashing multi-colored lights, suspended in rows below the +base of the triangle. The witness responded by flashing her cigarette +lighter and the UFO's light pattern beca me more erratic. At one point, +the triangle revolved clockwise, turning it s apex about 90 degrees to +a horizontal position, but still flashing the rows of light. After several +minutes, it turned back counter-clockwise as it simultaneously accelerated +away to the south at a high rate of speed, disappearing behind some trees. +No noise or odor was reported. At about 10:30 P.M. that night T.K. (name +and address provided to MUFON), took a photograph in his back yard, within +a few miles of the Perry Nuclear Plant, showing a portion of a brightly lit +triangular object travelling across the sky (Photograph in possession of +MUFON). This object was later confirmed by Mr. and Mrs. B and C.H. to be +identical to the triangular objects they were also observing about the same +time a few miles away, and is also similar to one reported to Phil +Imbrogno as having been near the Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant in New +York State on the same night. T.K. and his friend were outdoors on the +night of March 4th, observing the stars throu gh his telescope. Venus and +Jupiter were reported to be in the western sky behind a stand of trees. +While looking southward through the telescope, out of the corner of his +left eye, T.K. noticed a bright, moving object in the sky. He and his +friend were awe-struck by the triangular object, but he did have the +presence of mind to take 3 photographs with a small "snapshot" type camera +loaded with Kodak 110 color film, with which they had intended to +photograph stars through the telescope. Only one photograph turned out. It +is the l ast in the series, taken while panning ahead of the object, and +shows the front portion of the triangle. The object was described as about +3-4 inches tall at arm's length and glowing an intense yellow/orange to +white, with a bright orange/red glow behind it. It seemed to pulse +brighter and dimmer, moving in a roughly southwesterly direction until it +was obscured by trees. As it moved, it accelerated, slowed and accelerated +again. No sound or smell was noted, although his dog had a strong reaction +, running in circles and tugging on T.K.'s sleeve, apparently in an attempt +to urge him away from the object. + +Total time of observation was a few minutes. Dell'Aquila and Wedge continue +to receive reports of additional UFOs over the same period, some supported +by photographs, as the sightings continue to the date of this writing. +Supplementary reports will be provided as the investigation of the flap +progresses. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1397.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1397.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..50a52e7d --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1397.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +SUBJECT: 2/89 SIGHTING IN ENFIELD, NC. FILE: UFO1397 + + + MUFONET-BBS Network - Mutual UFO network + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO Sighting Report + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Report:--------------- 1397.UFO +Date of Sighting:----- February 19,1989 +Location of Sighting:- Near Enfield, North Carolina +Classification:------- +Details: + +Farmer Ferdie Barkley watched a cigar-shaped UFO for over 5 minutes during the +daytime, near Enfield. + +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1398.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1398.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..874e8ff0 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1398.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +SUBJECT: 3/89 SIGHTING IN MT. HOLLY, NC. FILE: UFO1398 + + + + MUFONET-BBS Network - Mutual UFO network + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO Sighting Report + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Report:--------------- 1398.UFO +Date of Sighting:----- March 28, 1989 +Location of Sighting:- Mt. Holly, North Carolina +Classification:------- +Details: + +On March 28, at dusk, Mt. Holly Junior High student Brett Keeter, 13, saw a +white cigar-shaped UFO while riding his bicycle. The UFO moved horizontally +at low altitude above Mt. Holly, then the soundless object made a 60 degree +turn and left the area. + +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1399.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1399.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..66f71d2b --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1399.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +SUBJECT: 08/89 SIGHTING IN CHARLOTTE, NC. FILE: UFO1399 + + + + MUFONET-BBS Network - Mutual UFO network + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO Sighting Report + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Report:--------------- 1399.UFO +Date of Sighting:----- August 18, 1989 +Location of Sighting:- McGuire, North Carolina +Classification:------- +Details: + +At 3 pm, Paul L. Moore, a retired security guard at the McGuire Nuclear Plant +saw a strange triangular shaped object for about two seconds. The UFO, about +the "size of a Stealth bomber", made a 45 degree descent and moved towards +McGuire. + +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1400.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1400.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..7d235582 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1400.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,25 @@ +SUBJECT: 08/89 SIGHTING IN JACKSONVILLE, NC. FILE: UFO1400 + + + MUFONET-BBS Network - Mutual UFO network + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO Sighting Report + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Report:--------------- 1400.UFO +Date of Sighting:----- August 21, 1989 +Location of Sighting:- Jacksonville, North Carolina +Classification:------- +Details: + +Dozens of eyewitnesses reported an "oval-shaped UFO with a tail on each side" +at 5:30 am. Chased by Sheriff's Deputies and photos taken. Duration: 35-40 +minutes. Thought to be a booster rocket sent up in Virginia. Most +eyewitnesses didn't accept this, however. + +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1401.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1401.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2f1720e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1401.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,50 @@ +SUBJECT: 10/90 SIGHTING IN LAKE TAMARACK, NJ. FILE: UFO1401 + + + + MUFONET-BBS Network - Mutual UFO network + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + UFO Sighting Report + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Report:--------------- 1401.UFO +Date of Sighting:----- October 1, 1990 +Location of Sighting:- Lake Tamarack, New Jersey +Classification:------- +Details: + + +This sighting took place on October 1, 1990, at 2:30 am, near Lake Tamarack. A +report was filed with the police department of Hardyston, New Jersey. At +present, three witnesses have come forward describing this event. What follows +is an account of the event by Mr. and Mrs. L. McR. Mrs. L McR. said she looked out +the window on her way to bed at about 2:30 am and saw an object hovering over +the mountain near her Lake Tamarack home. + +"I thought it was a helicopter. It looked like the top light was pulsing. +There were lights below it, but they did not move." + +When the object kept hovering for about five minutes, she called her husband to +come and look at it. The two used a telescope and saw the object again. + +Mr. McR. stated, "It was a streak of green at an angle with a cut out square at +the bottom center. It was pulsing." + +The couple then called a neighbor, who also saw the object. The couple watched +the object for about 15-20 minutes through the telescope as it traveled slowly +thru the sky at the same speed as the stars around it and then disappeared +behind some trees. Mr. McR. explained that " the object appeared stationary to +the naked eye, but the telescope showed it was moving slowly. I have never seen +anything like that before. It was definitely not an airplane." + +Walter Zamorski of the National Weather Service, when questioned, stated that +the weather on the morning of October 1, was extremely clear, and the sighting +might have been a weather satellite. No further information has materialized +since the October sighting. + +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1402.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1402.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ea87039c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1402.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,44 @@ +SUBJECT: 01/90 SIGHTING IN DENVILLE, NJ. FILE: UFO1402 + + + + MUFONET-BBS network - Mutual UFO Network + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + Investigative Sighting Report + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Report--------- 1402.UFO +Date----------- December 5, 1990 +Location------- Denville, New Jersey +Classification- +Details-------- + +This sighting took place on December 5, 1990, at approximately 8:35 pm. + +The witness was driving home, heading west on East Hanover Avenue. There were +other cars on the road, traveling in both directions (there are two lanes in +each direction). Approximately at 20 degrees to the right of the witness's +path lay a patch of foggy luminosity, about 45 degrees above the horizon. The +patch disappeared after a few seconds, to be replaced by a very large orange +cloud, illuminated from inside. It was very bright, then dimmed briefly in +intensity. + +The cloud very quickly flared back to the original intensity for a short while +longer, flickered once, and went dark. A dark patch in the sky could be seen +marking where the cloud had been. The entire sighting lasted for a little +over a minute. The sky this night was clear, with stars easily seen. other +motorists did not seem to stop or slow down. There were no fires in the area, +as the fire trucks were in their garages that night. The area under where the +cloud was is residential, with no major power lines or towers in the vicinity. +There were no reports of explosions or the like. + +If anyone has information on this particular formation, or others like it, +please send the information to the Mutual UFO network, 103 Oldtowne Road, +Seguin, Texas 78155. + +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1403.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1403.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..45b8843e --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1403.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +SUBJECT: SIGHTING REPORTS FOR SEPTEMBER 1989 FILE: UFO1403 + + + + + SEPTEMBER 1989 UFO REPORTS + +9/XX XXXX, IOWA XXXX TC XX Not appl. + Seen on A CURRENT AFFAIR. Farmer found rings in filed. +9/02 MT. VERNON, IN. 8:00 PM NL 3 wit. No sound Seconds + Bright cigar-shaped fireball seen by two independent witnesses. +9/03 EBENSBURG, PA. Night CE1 1 wit. No sound 15 sec. + Rotating object moved at utility line height near car, no EM. +9/08 GRAND FORKS, ND. 5:40 AM NL 1 wit. No sound 15 sec. + Air base A1C saw amber lights criss-cross. Says NOT meteor. +9/09 LONG ISLAND, NY. 2:30 AM NL 2 wit. No sound 7 min. + Light observed about 40' over water in Oyster Bay. +9/09 GULF BREEZE, FL. Night NL 3 wit. No sound 2 min. + Dull disc-shaped object w/lites joined by 4 indentical vehicles. +9/11 KALAMAZOO, MI. 9:15 PM CE2 +3 wit. No sound 15 min. + Object with stubby wings near nose. Tubes and pipes seen. Hoovered. +9/12 PENSACOLA, FL. 7:55 PM NL 35 wit. No sound 7 min. + 35 people, 12 MUFON FIs, observed and photo'd lite that maneuvered. +9/13 BANGOR, PA. 7:45 AM DD 2 wit. No sound 7 min. + Two separate sightings of odd, squarish & dark metallic object. +9/14 CANTONMENT, FL. Night CE1 2 wit. Low hum 3 min. + Inverted cones hoovered low over neighbor's house. Jet activity. +9/16 FLUSHING, NY. 1:00 AM NL 5 wit. No sound 3 hrs. + Bright object with tiny lights 75-100' over lake. +9/17 MT. VERNON, IN. 8:43 PM NL 1 wit. No sound 7 min. + Video taken of lite that brightened up. +9/20 OLDWICK, NJ. 7:30 AM DD +1 wit. No sound 15 min. + Box-like diamond hoovered nr Rt. 78, big as full moon. +9/21 MT. VERNON, IN. 8:15 PM NL 3 wit. No sound 10 min. + V or wing w/red lites headed toward St. Louis. FAA couldn't ID. +9/24 EVANSVILLE, IN 9:40 PM NL 1 wit. No sound 4 min. + Security guard observed distant diffused Orange Ball of Light. +9/25 ST. LOUIS, MO. Night NL + wit. No sound XXXX + Objects observed, like V or wing, red lites. +9/26 SAN FRANCISCO, CA. 6:15 AM NL 1 wit. No sound 7 sec. + Man watering grass saw extremely bright light pass S to N. +9/26 COOPERSVILLE, MI. 7:30 PM NL 1 wit. No sound XXXX + Strange situation of lights. Awaiting details. +9/27 ST. CHARLES CO., MO. 8:00 PM NL 1 wit. No sound 5 sec. + Hwy. 70 west at Lake St. Louis exit. Brilliantly lit stationary object. + All lites then went out. Awaiting details. +9/27 ST. CHARLES CO., MO. 8:00 PM NL 3 wit. No sound 5 sec. + Hwy 70 west at Cave Springs exit. Witnesses watched object with red, + green, blue and white lites cross sky. Moved slower than a bi-plane. +9/27 *****RUSSIAN INCIDENT***** +9/28 WATERTOWN, CT. Night NL + wit. No sound XXXX + Something huige appeared with lites. May have been ultralites. +9/28 OCEANSIDE, OR. 8:00 PM NL + wit. No sound 90 sec. + Red & white lites, intermitent small explosions. 40 calls. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1404.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1404.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f1521cb1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1404.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +SUBJECT: NY TIMES ON TASS REPORT, RE: UFOs FILE: UFO1404 + + + + New York Times, Thursday, October 12, 1989 + __________________________________________ + + + TASS'S THRILL: JOKING OVER UFO REPORT + By Eleanor Blau + + + The report by the Soviet press agency Tass that lanky, three-eyed + creatures took a stroll through a Soviet park last month has caused + such reverberations in the United States that they have bounced back to + Tass itself. + + The agency reported Tuesday that major American television networks and + newspapers, which it said typically avoid stories about unidentified + flying objects, "played up the space adventure, frequently poking fun + and suggesting that the beings from outer space might be a result of + overzealous glasnost." + + The Tass report, written by an American working for the agency, did not + sound resentful. It quoted Edwin Diamond a New York Magazine media + critic who criticized what he called the story's shallowness, saying, + "What did the Academy of Science think? Where are the pictures?" + + Ant it quoted Yervant Turzian of the Cornell University Astronomy + Department, who said fellow academics regarded the story as a joke. + + DRAWING OF CREATURE IS BROADCAST + + "Given the physical parameters of the universe, the possibility of life + on other planets is high," he told Tass. "But the vast majority of + these reports can be explained by such logical phenomena as unconven- + tional aircraft in the sky or artificial satellites." + + On the other hand, Tass found that "A Current Affair," the syndicated + news and entertainment show, was taking the report seriously enough to + plan on sending a film crew to Voronezh. That is where Tass originally + reported that three children had said they saw aliens emerge from a + ball, wearing silvery overalls. + + Last night, Soviet television viewers saw a picture of one of the + creatures on the main nightly news program, "Vremya," in the form of a + scribbled drawing by one of the children. It showed a smiling stick + figure inside a glowing two-legged sphere. + + Vremya sounded more skeptical than the original Tass report, but it + offered without comment an interview with Vasya Surin, one of the pur- + ported witnesses. + + "HE DIDN'T HAVE A HEAD" + + "We were scared," says Vasya, who appeared to be about 11. "It hovered + over this tree. Then the door opened and a tall person of about three + meters looked out. He didn't have a head, or shoulders either. He just + had a kind of hump. There he had three eyes, two on each side and one + in the middle." + + Vasya said the alien had two holes instead of a nose, and could not + turn its head, so it had to swivel its middle eye. + + But "Vremya" cast some doubt on the reports of the sighting, noting for + instance, that there were no adult witnesses, even though a large + apartment house overlooked the site. + + Since the first UFO sightings in the 1940's, spaceships have been + described as sausages, cigars, balls, bananas, crescents, round straw + hats, eggs, mushrooms, disks and, especially, saucers. But in the + 1980's "Saucers are out; boomerangs are in," said Jim Speiser, a com- + puter expert in Scottsdale, Ariz. He founded a national UFO computer + network in 1986 because he thought there should be an exchange of in- + formation instead of disputes among people who reacted variously to UFO + stories, "from skeptics to wild-eyed gee-whiz believers." + + In a telephone interview, Mr. Speiser said of the reported Soviet + sighting: "I think Tass is exploring its new freedom and is not used to + self-censorship. I don't disbelieve, but we have much better stories in + this country." + + Also surprised - but only because he thinks the media ignores UFO re- + ports - is Tim Beckley of Inner Light Publications. He edits UFO Uni- + verse, a glossy magazine that prints 100,000 copies six times a year + and distributes them internationally. + + Mr. Beckley said that he is a journalist, not a scientist, and that he + is almost as puzzled about UFOs now as he was when he saw his first in + 1957, as a 10-year-old in New Brunswick, NJ. "Its kind of a cosmic game + those entities seem to be playing with us," he said. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1405.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1405.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6171ba50 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1405.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +SUBJECT: AMERICAN STATESMAN REPORT FILE: UFO1405 + + + +NEWS CLIPPING SERVICE + +DATE OF ARTICLE: January 27, 1989 +SOURCE OF ARTICLE: American-Statesman +LOCATION: Austin, Texas +BYLINE: NONE +======================================================== +THIS FILE WAS PROVIDED BY THE UFO NEWSCLIPPING SERVICE +AND PREPARED BY PARANET ALPHA -- PARANET INFORMATION +SERVICE +======================================================== + SCIENCE AND THE UNKNOWN + + Private citizens who have reported UFO sightings to +government officials sometimes complain of secrecy, frustration +and laughter. + Floyd Petri founded the Center for Instrumented UFO Research +in Bastrop in part to circumvent such bureaucratic hassles. + "Our purpose is to confirm the existence or nonexistence of +the UFO by scientific means," said Petri, a retired police chief. + "Before organizations such as this existed, an individual +was nothing more than a UFO buff or a witness. Often, after +people made a report to the authorities, that was the last they +heard of it. Any physical evidence they offered went up in +smoke." + Petri said the 10-year-old center is accumulating equipment +and personnel to set up a monitoring station and a field unit, +probably in a van. Both will be equipped with devices such as +radar, mangetometers, cameras, video equipment, radiation and +sound detection equipment, and chart recorders. + "There are many Americans who are funding this kind of +research right out of their own pockets," he said. "Just like +there are people who spend thousands of dollars a year fishing. +This is my hobby. This is where my money goes. There also have +been donations and benefactors interested in our research." + The scientific instrumentation -- much of which the center +owns -- sounds impressive. But some of the most fruitful +research -- retrieving government documents pertaining to UFOs -- +forces the private UFO investigator to use simpler but equally +powerful tools such as typewriters and the mail. + "The Freedom of Information Act is one of the nicest things +that ever happened to us," Petri said. "There is a world of +information in the hands of the government and individuals. If +it was gathered, studied and disseminated properly, the +information would shed some light on the UFO enigma. Many groups +are trying to do that now." + Petri's organization is interested in investigating +suspected landing sites and trace materials from all kinds of +encounters -- from cattle mutilations to indentations thought to +be made by saucer landing pods. And the center is involved in +the computer enhancement of photos showing UFOs to determine +their validity. + UFO abduction cases also draw the center's attention if +there's evidence in addition to an abductee's account. + Petri also serves as state section director of Bastrop and +Travis Counties for the Mutual UFO Network. + The center and MUFON work together to train UFO +investigators, discuss cases and plan field trips for +investigations. Joint meetings are under the acronym PULSE -- +Project UFO Landings, Sightings and Encounters -- so the two +organizations can maintain separate identities. + "The goals are to share information and ferret out bad, +distorted information," Petri said. "So the organizations don't +mind communicating." + Ten members are training to be field investigators. Three +have been trained. Most are professional people with skills +such as photography, computers, legal investigation and medicine. + Membership is by invitation. The center seeks people with +professional expertise that could be of use in UFO +investigations. Though it costs nothing to join, members must +subscribe to the MUFON UFO Journal. + "We're not here to make converts but to collect evidence," +Petri said. + +================================================================= + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1406.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1406.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a147b1dd --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1406.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +SUBJECT: MUFON 1988 SYMPOSIUM RECAP FILE: UFO1406 + + + +Some quick notes on the 1988 MUFON Symposium in Lincoln. + +The event was well-attended, with around 400 people registered. That +compares favorably with last year's 450, at the "Woodstock of UFOlogy" in +Washington. Some of the more notable attendees: Dr. Bruce Maccabee, Dr. +David Jacobs, Dr. Michael Swords, Budd Hopkins, Marge Christensen, Walter +Webb (primary investigator on the Betty and Barney Hill case), Phil Klass, +Dr. James Deardorff, George Eberhard & Don Schmitt of CUFOS, George & +Shirley Coyne, Dan Wright, and Walt Andrus as the Beaver. AND....Mr. Ed, +the main witness in the Gulf Breeze case. He and his wife were there +"incognito", but many of us guessed who he was. I spoke to him briefly, +but didn't let on that I had guessed his identity. + +The big news on Gulf Breeze that came out of the conference seems to be +that there is a lot more to the case than most people suspected. Dr. +Maccabee's 3 hour presentation on his analysis work thus far was extremely +impressive, and though highly technical at points, had us all fascinated. +It is apparent now that, if this be hoax, it is one of an incredible +magnitude. The stereoptical photos conclusively rule out a double- +exposure, and show the craft to be approximately 18 feet in diameter. They +also show, in one case, that the object was more than 150 feet from the +photographer, OUT OVER THE WATER. Many of the objections to the case +raised by CUFOS in their Bulletin were answered convincingly in the +presentation, and Don Schmitt related to me afterwards that "there was a +lot of information there we didn't have previously." Sadly, however, the +photographs are only part of the evidence, and there are still so many +factors pointing towards hoax that I cannot bring myself to raise the +rating of the case: it remains S5/P2. One of the factors, never +satisfactorily answered as yet, is why Ed would continue to use a Polaroid +when he had access to a video camera. Certainly he must have been told by +the investigators that video is much more convincing than stills.... +Everyone remarked at how mellow and +understated Phil Klass behaved. I guess everyone expected him to repeat +his performance of last year, shoving tape recorders at people and making +dramatic (incorrect) statements from the audience. He asked one question +of Maccabee, and actually complimented him on his work...Maccabee, after +showing himself to be the true "Sherlock Holmes of Ufology," removed his +jacket and shirt, revealing a t-shirt that read "Just Returned from the +Twilight Zone." He put on a sporty set of shades and took answers from the +audience in his new role as "The Saucer Dude." It was a complete departure +from his reputation as a rather droll, straight-laced scientist. +...Funniest moment: Alan Benz of Tucson, who was videotaping the entire +proceedings for his Foundation for UFO Research, fell asleep during Walt +Andrus' slide presentation on Gulf Breeze (as did many of us). The camera +was trained on the screen at the time. When the lights came up, Andrus +spoke for about 15 more minutes, but Benz was off in Z's-ville. Bear this +in mind if you intend to purchase a copy of the tape...Budd Hopkins told +of an encounter with Carl Sagan, at which Sagan promised to cooperate on +an investigation of Budd's best case. He also answered Sagan's bromide of +"Extraordinary Claims Demand Extraordinary Proof" with a quote that will +be familiar to longtime ParaNet members: "Extraordinary Phenomena Demand +Extraordinary Inquiry."...Bill Moore was scheduled to speak on MJ-12, but +couldn't make it, and sent Jamie Shandera in his place. Shandera spoke +extemporaneously for half an hour, giving a very dramatic performance but +saying basically nothing new on the controversial "crashed saucer" +documents. Your Esteemed Sysop asked Shandera to give us an approximate +date by which everything should be out in the open. The answer: "Before +Reagan leaves office." Thank goodness he didn't stick to the text prepared +by Moore: as published in the Proceedings, it is the most vitriolic attack +on Phil Klass ever. While it pretended to be an answer to Klass' +objections to the authenticity of MJ-12, it was nothing more than the +vicious outburst of a cornered animal. About every fifth paragraph +actually contained an explanation of some inconsistency in the MJ-12 +scenario, none of which were convincing in the least; the rest was pure +venom, enough to almost evoke sympathy for Klass...Conspicuous by his +absence was John Lear, who will supposedly be hosting the '89 convention +in Las Vegas. There is talk that that may change, however...All in all, an +enjoyable, successful conference, attended by the highest percentage of +intelligent, down-to-earth, non-woo-woos I've ever seen at such a +couldn't make it, and sent Jamie Shandera in his place. Shandera spoke +extemporaneously for half an hour, giving a very dramatic performance but +saying basically nothing new on the controversial "crashed saucer" +documents. Your Esteemed Sysop asked Shandera to give us an approximate +date by which everything should be out in the open. The answer: "Before +Reagan leaves office." Thank goodness he didn't stick to the text prepared +by Moore: as published in the Proceedings, it is the most vitriolic attack +on Phil Klass ever. While it pretended to be an answer to Klass' +objections to the authenticity of MJ-12, it was nothing more than the +vicious outburst of a cornered animal. About every fifth paragraph +actually contained an explanation of some inconsistency in the MJ-12 +scenario, none of which were convincing in the least; the rest was pure +venom, enough to almost evoke sympathy for Klass...Conspicuous by his +absence was John Lear, who will supposedly be hosting the '89 convention +in Las Vegas. There is talk that that may change, however...All in all, an +enjoyable, successful conference, attended by the highest percentage of +intelligent, down-to-earth, non-woo-woos I've ever seen at such a +function. J. Allen Hynek's last wish for UFOlogy, as presented in the +keynote address by Marge Christensen, was for all of us to get our act +together, and many came away feeling that it just might be happening. + + --Jim Speiser + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1407.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1407.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..a847e931 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1407.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,146 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO NATTERING AND SUCH FILE: UFO1407 + + + + |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| + || || + || A Plan for Sharing and Growing || + || ANTAHKARANA, || + || THE STAR PEOPLE CONNECTION || + || || + |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| + + In the year of 1984, a group energy concept called Antahkarana +was given to the planet. In the ensuing years many phases of the Star +People Connection have been pursued to the present moment. Now the +plans for expansion are appropriate. + + We wish to present the following plan for your consideration. A +headquarters for national growth and development will be located in +Seattle, Washington. We are accepting applications for Coordinators of +other major areas within your state and Network Coordinators in +outlying areas connected to the nearest branch. + + The Seattle Branch will serve as a template for the further +expansion to other major cities in neighboring states. Those combined +energies will be designated regions and our plan is to ultimately +connect with each other through the National Headquarters. + + The purpose of a branch is to offer the higher, appropriate +energies a focus through which the plan for the further spiritual +development can manifest. Antahkarana is a group of "DO IT" people +whose purpose is to bring forth the energies of the Three Fold Flame. +The Three Fold Flame is represented as that which is focused through +the Heart chakra of Love, Wisdom, and Power. + + The aforementioned energies are focused through three identified, +out of body, groups: The Angelic Kingdom, The Masters of the Planetary +Hierarchy, and the Intergalactic Confederation of Space Brotherhood. +These three paths are honored individually although a particular group +or individual may have a particular focus. + + The major purpose on the Earth plane is to offer mutual support +to Star People/Light Workers to pursue their individual path of +spiritual growth while cooperating with the Greater Plan of Personal +and Planetary Ascension. Let it be known that we believe this +evolvement is happening throughout the omniverse. + + An emphasis is on the development of the Star Person/Light Worker +through cooperation with their greater self and other aspects +sometimes referred to as starseeds or walk-ins. A spirit of +cooperation is to be fostered on all levels and the art of negotiation +with spirit to perform the appropriate bridging between all levels and +dimensions. + + The participants in Antahkarana, The Star People connection, are +taught the Top Down View, "A Unifying Perspective of the Visitor +Experience," dealing with discernment of the various energies +contacting the earth plane individuals and groups. The most important +idea is to honor all paths. + + A spirit of cooperation with other Light Groups is fostered and +participation in Antahkarana is available to those who resonate with +the aims and purposes as published in the statement of purpose. + + The overlying emphasis is on creating a strong spirit of unity +rather than separation. The individual is honored and taught how to +integrate into the grater whole. Bridging on all levels, both vertical +and horizontal, is promoted. + + We are seeking Light Workers who have a strong sense of +dedication and commitment to their path with a great sense of the +evolving events happening on the planet and with the aim of assisting +the higher realms to manifest that plan on Earth. The individual is +able to maximize his need for spiritual growth while simultaneously +participating in the greater good for all. + + In every sense of the usage, Antahkarana: The Star People +Connection, is about building bridges and coming from the heart. The +original Sanskrit work means "The Bridge" and is the esoteric word for +the bridge between the heart and head and the bridge between Heaven +and Earth. + +|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| + + ANTAHKARANA is for YOU. It is to assist you in becoming all that +you have chosen to be. We offer you the following opportunities to +experience: + + o Something that will bring joy to your spiritual body and expand + awareness of your greater self. + o A challenge for your mental body by assisting you to get a top + down view and a unifying perspective of the mass of material + regarding the visitor experience. + o Fun for your emotional body, support and fellowship. Balance to + your physical body as it enters into its full potential as a + light body/upper dimensional being of divine origin. + o Wonderful opportunities for networking and support with your + individual path through such activities as our "Ambassadors from + the Stars Talent Bank," a newsletter and a monthly networking + conclave potluck. + + We have enjoyed meeting you in the past. We send you our love and +goodwill. We hope to see you again. As we close all of our activities +by saying, so also will we close this letter: "In Love we come +together, in Love we serve together, in Love we share together and in +Love we shall come together again." + + PEACE, LOVE, AND LIGHT + + ARASIA + + Coordinator, Antahkarana International + 501 N. 36th St., #140, Seattle, WA 98103 + +|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| + + ANTAHKARANA IS: + + o For Star People who want to come out of the closet. + o For Star People who want to stand up and be counted. + o For those who want to reach up and reach out. + o For Star People who want to remember their heritage and accept + their destiny. + o A "Do it" group that believes just knowing is not doing. + o A belief that no one is perfect or has to have all the answers + before he/she starts. + o A belief in love, support and fellowship. + o A belief that spirituality can be fun. + +So -- If you believe you may also be on "Earth Assignment", come and +check us out! If you are interested in joining a group of Antahkarana +or starting your own branch, or if you have any questions in general, +feel free to contact Arasia at the above address or e-mail me at the +address below. Together, we will bridge between Heaven and Earth! + + +|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| +|| Walter D "Arbaline" Pullen pullen@lynx.cs.washington.edu || +|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| + + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1408.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1408.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1b621bf1 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1408.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +SUBJECT: AP, SCIENTISTS DISCOVER BACTERIA CLOUD ? FILE: UFO1408 + + + +=START= XMT: 16:18 Mon Jul 16 EXP: 16:00 Tue Jul 17 + +CLOUDS OF BACTERIA SWIRLING THROUGH SPACE, SAYS SCIENTIST + +SYDNEY (JULY 16) REUTER - Our universe may be filled with germs, an +international astronomy conference was told on Monday. + +Astrophysicist Gurcharan Kalra of India's University of Delhi told a meeting of +the International Astronomical Union in Sydney that interstellar dust, +prevalent throughout the universe, may be brimming with bacteria and minute +plants. + +He said samples of light from regions near the center of our galaxy closely +resembled light passed through E. Coli bacteria and through tiny sea plants +called diatoms. + +This suggests that warm regions of space rich in dust may also be filled with +bacteria and other simple forms of life. + +Although Kalra at first thought the concept ''obviously absurd,'' the +correlations between the two sets of light were so close that he could not +discount the data outright, he said. + +Suggestions that vast clouds of bacteria exist in space were first made by +British astrophysist Fred Hoyle in 1982. However, his research was largely +ignored by scientists who baulked at the idea of a universe filled with germs. + +To put the issue to rest, Kalra set out to debunk Hoyle's theory but found the +results harder to deny than he first thought. + +Taking infra-red images of dust in the GC-IRS 7 region of our Milky Way galaxy, +as Hoyle had done, and comparing them with a graph of E. Coli bacteria heated +at 350 degrees Celsius (630 degrees Fahrenheit), the estimated temperature of +some of the dust in that area, Kalra found the two graphs to be very similar. + +''The agreement between the observed and the predicted fluxes (results) is +indeed quite striking,'' he told atronomers at the meeting. Hoyle's data cannot +be dismissed, he added. + +Kalra told Reuters he will next seek to replicate Hoyle's bacterial data, and +try and match the data with light samples from other dust-filled regions of +space. + +He said astronomers have relied on similar light experiments to explain much of +the universe, and cannot now dismiss the same method when it appears to support +an unpopular conclusion. + +''All this information comes to us from the same light. If we get this +information from it we should not reject it. It is also a lesson for me -- I +should not have looked at it with the idea that this is rubbish to be quickly +disproved,'' he said. + +=END= + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1409.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1409.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..4332be24 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1409.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +SUBJECT: GRAY BARKER AND THE MEN-IN-BLACK FILE: UFO1409 + + + +Subj: RE: I'M CONFUSED +BJ> I remember the name 'Gray Barker' from MANY years ago,but from + BJ> then, he and Alex Bender (I think) were visited by 'TheMen in B + BJ> after THAT, refused to discuss UFO's,and many OTHER things AT A + + Howdy Bud, + I'm not real sure what happened to Barker,he may well be + dead,but as of 1979,Bill Moore had stated in The Phila.Experiment + that reprint facsimiles of the original Varo edition of The Case + For The UFO could be obtained through Gray Barker at Saucerian + Press,P.O.Box 2228,Clarksburg,West Virgina 26302. I tried writting + to Barker at the time,but all my letters came back "return to + sender". By the way,wanna buy some slightly used maps of the + Phila.Navy Yard circa 1943? How bout some microfilm reprints of + every Philly Daily from the 1940's?...Ah,,never mind. + Anyway,I do have some info on Bender.The following is from the + file MIBS_HST.ZIP,I have included only the text pertaining to Bender,but + there is much more on the history of MIB's and it's worth reading. + + The origin of the Men in Black legend can be pin-pointed fairly + exactly. Back in 1953 a man by the name of Albert K. Bender was + runnong an organization called the International Flying Suacer + Bureau (IFSB) and editing a little publication called "Space + Review" that was dedicated to news of flying saucers. + + The IFSB had a small membership despite its rather grandoise title, + and "Space Review" reached at best, no more than a few hundred + readers. But they were all deeply devoted to the idea that flying + saucers were craft from outer soace. In common with other ture + believers, these saucer buffs were convinced that they were in + possession of a great truth, while most of the rest of the world + remained in darkness and ignorance. They felt very important , and + thus it was with a sense of surprise, even shock, that they opened + up the October 1953 issue of "Space Review" and found two + unexpected announcments: + "LATE BULLETIN. A source which the IFSB considers very reliable + has informed us that the investigation of the flying soucer mystery + and the solution is approaching its final stages." + "This same source to whom we had referred data, which had come + into our possession, suggested that it was not the proper method + and time to publish the data in 'Space Review'." + + The second and more shocking item read: + + "STATEMENT OF IMPORTANCE: THe mystery of the flying saucers is + no longer a mystery. The source is already known, but any + information about this is being withheld by order from a higher + source. We would like to print the full story in "Space REview", + but because of the nature of the information we are very sorry that + we have been advised in the negative." + The statement ended with the ominous sentence, "We advice those + engaged in saucer work to please be very cautious." Bender then + suspended the publication of "Space Review", and disolved the + IFSB. + The tone of the announcemnets would have been familiar to anyone + who had much experience with occult organizations. Occultists often + claim they are in the possession of some great secret which, for + equally secret reasons, they cannot reveal. Even the appeal, + "please be very cautious" was not unique. It made those engaged in + "saucer work" feel more important . After all, who is going to + bother to persecute you if you are just wasting your time? + + SHortly after Bender closed down his magazine and organization he + gave an interview to a local paper which he asserted the he had + been visited by "three men wearing dark suits" who had order him + "emphatically" to stop publishing material about flying saucers. + Bender said that he had been "scared to death" and that he + "acutally couldn't eat for a couple of days." Some of Bender's + former associates tried to press for a more satisfactory + explanation, but to all questions he replied either cryptically or + not at all. + This state of affairs created soncsiderable confusions amoung the + flying saucer buffs. What were they to think about sucah a strange + story> Some were openly skeptical of Bender's tale. They said that + his publication and organization were losing money and the tale of + the three visitors who "ordered" him to stop publishing was just a + face-saving gesture. Yet, as the years went by the "three Men in + Black" began to sound more rspectable and they took on a life of + their own. Some' were Bender's friends first thought that the Men + in Black were from Air Force or the CIA, and indeed Bender's + original statments do seem to sound like government agents. But + after a while the Men in Black begun to assume a more + extraterrestrial, even supernatural air. + + Finally in 1963, a full decade after he first told of his + mysterious visitors, Alber Bender elaborated further in a book + called "Flying Sauvers adn the Three Men in Black." It was a + strange, confused and virutally unreadable book that revealed very + little in the way of hard facts, but did significantly enhance the + reutation of the Men in Black as extraterrestrials. The book also + introduced into the lore "three beautful women, dressed in tight + white unigorms." Like thei r mail couterparts in black, the women + in white had "glowing eys." + + Also see: "Flying Saucers on The Attack" Harold T. Wilkins Ace + Books (C) 195? A good account of the Albert K. Bender incident + including views towards the MIBs durring the era it all started. + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1410.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1410.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9761370c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1410.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,415 @@ +SUBJECT: TECH NOTES ON THE BELGIUM UFO SIGHTINGS FILE: UFO1410 + +PART 1 + + +(6706) Wed 17 Apr 91 6:13p +By: ParaNet(sm) Information Service +To: All +Re: Belgium Information +St: +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +@EID:4d69 169191a0 +@MSGID: 1:104/428 48923a02 +This file was provided by ParaNet(sm) Information Service +and its network of international affiliates. +You may freely distribute this file as long as this header +remains intact. +Date Prepared: April 17, 1991 +Contributed by: Antonio Huneeus +============================================================ +For further information on ParaNet(sm), contact: +Michael Corbin +ParaNet Information Service +P.O. Box 172 +Wheatridge, CO 80034-0172 +or +FidoNet 1:104/422 +Internet mcorbin@scicom.alphacdc.com +=========================================================== + +Article as it appeared in UFO Universe, June/July 1991. + +BREAKING DOWN "THE WALL" OF UFO SILENCE + +FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, ALMOST THE ENTIRE EUROPEAN CONTINENT HAS +BEEN PLAGUED BY A WAVE OF UFO SIGHTINGS UNSURPASSED IN HISTORY, +PERHAPS MOST PUZZLING HAVE BEEN THOSE OF A GIGANTIC "FLYING +PLATFORM" SIGHTED NEAR THE GERMAN BORDER IN BELGIUM. + +By Antonio Huneeus + +(c) 1991 by A. Huneeus. All Rights Reserved Reprinted with +permission to ParaNet(sm) Information Service No further +reproduction is allowed without written permission from the +author. + +In a totally unprecedented move in the history of ufology, the +Belgian Air Force and government has not only carefully +documented the great UFO wave over Wallonia, but shared its +results with civilian investigators and the public, in effect +literally breaking down "The Wall" of UFO Silence that still +stands in the western world. + * * * + For the past year, citizens in the French-speaking region of +Wallonia in Belgium have experienced an extraordinary UFO wave. +Thousands of witnesses, including dozens of gendarmes (national +police) and officers of the Belgian Air Force, have described +triangular-shaped vehicles flying slowly over rooftops, hovering, +shooting searchlights and performing incredible maneuvers. The +objects have been captured on some 25 videotapes and tracked on +both ground and airborne radar by the military. + Few, if any, will doubt that the triangular UFOs have been seen +all over Wallonia since November of 1989. According to a front +page story in The Wall Street Journal published on October 10, +1990 and entitled "Belgium Scientists Seriously Pursue A +Triangular UFO," "since the rash of sightings here began almost a +year ago, more than ]2,600 have been reported of a triangular +object with three huge lights hovering in the night sky over +Wallonia." The question that some are asking is whether these +objects could be explained by the testing of a new top secret +military aircraft. Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPVs), AWACS, the +F-117 Stealth Fighter, and a modified version of the B-2 Stealth +Bomber, are some of the options that have been suggested. + Besides the large amount of well documented data gathered by +the Gendarmerie, the Air Force and civilian scientists from the +Belgian Society for the Study of Space Phenomena (SOBEPS), the +Belgian Map has broken another record. For the first time ever in +the controversial history of UFOs anywhere in the world, the +Belgian Minister of Defense, Guy Coeme, has authorized the Air +Force to fully cooperate with SOBEPS, forwarding their reports, +and even putting at their disposal a Hawker Sideley aircraft +equipped with infrared cameras and sophisticated electronic +sensors. + + As the well known French physicist, Jean Pierre Petit, explained +to Paris Match magazine, "we are living in a time that is the +beginning of a period of openness. First the Berlin Wall +crumbled, now the wall of silence about UFOs is falling. +Concerning the UFOs, we are entering a phase completely different +from the earlier ones. It is the end of commercialism and fakery. +The true scientists are finally making their appearance." Dr. +Petit is a senior physicist and director of research with the +National Center for Scientific Research of France. An iconoclast +and a world class expert on magnetohydrodynamcs (MHD), Dr. Petit +has also conducted some rather interesting UFO research of his +own, publishing recently his results in the book, INVESTIGATION +OF UFOS. + Unlike many other UFO groups around the world, the SOBEPS +has a team of respected scientists, including Leon Brenig, a +nonlinear dynamics theorist at the Free University in Brussels, +and Professor August Meessen, a physicist from the Catholic +University at Louvain. Among the numerous UFO witnesses, in fact, +were Lucien Clerebaut, Secretary General of SOBEPS, Patrick +Ferryn, a film producer and founding member, and Jose Fernandez, +another SOBEPS investigator. "Here is an opportunity where we can +apply the scientific method," remarked Professor Brenig. + SOBEPS files show that the first sightings occurred on the +night of November 7, 1989, when two gendarmes from Esneux +observed a silent huge craft "with two very powerful white lights +directed downwards and 'a sort of green and red garland.'" The +flap, however, gained momentum and notoriety on the evening of +November 29 when 41 witnesses, including six gendarmes, observed +the huge triangle - sometimes referred as "a stationary platform +" - in Eupen, Verviers, and several other locations in Wallonia +near the border with Germany. As the press speculated with AWACS +and Stealth aircraft on the following days, the Defense Minister +Guy Coeme dismissed these rumors, stating that "all hypotheses +involving the presence of military aircraft in our air space are +definitely to be ruled out. " + + + + + + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +(6707) Wed 17 Apr 91 6:14p +By: ParaNet(sm) Information Service +To: All +Re: Belgium Information (2) +St: +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +@EID:fdd2 169191c0 +@MSGID: 1:104/428 48923cbc +<> + + It is perhaps because the objects are so far unidentified, that +the Belgian Air Force has undertaken the task of chasing and +investigating the intruders. As Col. Wilfried de Brouwer, the +Chief of Operations of the Belgian Air Force who is coordinating +the UFO investigation, told The Wall Street Journal, "Our +approach is that it's our job to see what's going on." Indeed, +the UFO flap climaxed on the night of March 30-31 of 1990, when +unknown targets were tracked by two radar installations. The one +at Glons, located southeast of Brussels, belongs to the NATO +defense group - NATO Headquarters is in Brussels - while that at +Semmerzake, west of Brussels, is in charge of controlling all +military and civilian traffic in the entire Belgian territory. At +that point, the master-controller at Glons ordered the scramble +of two F-16 interceptors, which also locked the UFO on their +onboard radars. + We have obtained, courtesy of French researcher Jean-Luc +Rivera, a copy of the complete report of this incident, which was +prepared by Air Force Major P. Lambrechts, from the Air Force +General Staff in Brussels, and which was forwarded to the SOBEPS +following the instructions of full cooperation with that group. +The "Report Concerning the Observation of UFOs During the Night +of March 30 to 31, 1990," includes a full chronology of the +events, as well as a thick dossier of enclosures with eyewitness' +descriptions from several gendarmes and maps of where the +sightings took place. + Major P. Lambrechts explains at the inception that, "the +observations both visual and by radar were of such nature, that +it was decided to order the scramble of two F-16 aircraft with +the goal of identifying these UFOs." The report also indicates +that "the presence or testing of B2 or F117 (Stealth Bomber), +RPVs (Remotely Piloted Vehicles), ULMs (Ultra Light Motorized) +and AWACS at the moment of these events in the Belgian airspace, +can be excluded. " + According to the Chronology, the Sequence of events began at +22.50 hours, when the "master controller at Glons " received a +telephone call from gendarme Renquin, who reported he was seeing +from his house in Ramillies, "three unusual lights. . . forming +an equilateral triangle, and with changing colors of red, green +and yellow." At 23.05, the Gendarmerie at Wavre sent a patrol, +which confirmed the observation. At 23.15, Renquin called again +to inform that he was seeing a new set of three lights, while the +radar screens at Glons detected " an unidentified contact moving +at a speed of around 25 knots." (A knot is equivalent to one +nautical mile - 6,080 feet - per hour. ) + For the next two and a half hours, an increasing number of +gendarmes and other witnesses continued to observe the strange +maneuvers of up to three sets of triangular lights in the +outskirts of Brussels. By 23.49 hours, the radar screens at +Semmerzake confirmed the targets and the order to scramble two F- +16s was given at 23.56 hours, taking off at 00.05 on March 31. +According to the report, "the aircraft had brief radar contacts +on several occasions." However, each time that "the pilots were +able to secure a lock on one of the targets for a few seconds, +this resulted each time in a drastic change in the behavior of +the UFOs." + During the first lock on at 00.13, continues the report, "the +speed of the target changed in a minimum of time from 150 to 970 +knots and from 9,000 to 5,000 feet, returning then to 11,000 +feet, in order to change again to close to ground level; this +resulted in a 'break lock' in a few seconds and the pilots lost +the radar contact." In another lock on at 00.30 hours, the "break +lock" was achieved by what the report calls "a jamming signal on +the screen." + Col. de Brouwer explained to Paris Match reporter Marie-Therese +de Brosses, that the change of velocity from 280 KPM to 1,800 KPH +while descending from 3,000 meters to 1,000 meters in one second, +was a fantastic acceleration equivalent to 40 Gs. This would +exclude any human pilot onboard the UFO, since humans can only +withstand 8 Gs. (A "G " is a unit of acceleration equivalent to +the gravitational pull of the earth, 9.81 m/sec/sec.) When the +UFO approached the ground level, continued Col. de Brouwer, "it +was out of the question for the F-16 to catch up with the object +at this low altitude, where the density of the air limits the +speed to 1,300 KMP. Above that speed, the temperature in the +compressors of the jet turbines would cause the engines to burst. +There was a logic behind the motions of the object," added the +Colonel. + +In any case, the cat and mouse game went on until shortly after 1 +am, when the F-16s were ordered to return to their base. On the +ground, however, Captain Pinson and other gendarmes continued to +observe "four white luminous spots forming a square" until around +1.30, when "the four UFOs lost their luminosity and seemed to +disappear in four different directions." Significantly, the +weather conditions on that night were very clear, allowing ground +witnesses to observe the objects in detail, as well as the +pursuit by the F-16s. The pilots, however, did not observe the +objects visually. + Major Lambrechts finally excludes a number of alternative +hypotheses for the UFOs, such as "optical illusions, confusion +with planets or other meteorological phenomena... weather +balloons. . . or meteorological inversions. . . holographic +projections," etc. More importantly, he writes that "the speeds +measured at he moment of the change of altitudes, exclude the +hypothesis that the UFOs observed could be confused with +aircraft. " Still more puzzling was the fact that, "despite that +on several occasions high speeds above the speed of the sound +barrier were measured, the shock wave was never observed. Here, +no explanation can be given." The French physicist Jean Pierre +Petit concurred: "In reality," he told Paris Match, "there is no +machine made by man, either an airplane or a missile, that is +capable of such performance. Specifically, flying at the speed of +sound without making a sonic boom." + +<> + + + + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +(6708) Wed 17 Apr 91 6:15p +By: ParaNet(sm) Information Service +To: All +Re: Belgium Information (3) +St: +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +@EID:6dd3 169191e0 +@MSGID: 1:104/428 48924005 +<<>> + + Although the Belgian military authorities have insisted that +the UFOs in Wallonia are no secret aircraft, the similarities +between the triangular craft seen in Belgium with the boomerang- +shaped objects reported throughout the last decade in the Hudson +Valley in New York and Western Connecticut, as well as other +triangular UFOs observed in Wytheville, Virginia, Fyffe, Alabama, +and Puerto Rico, among other places, have led some researchers to +suggest that the technology behind all these observations is +terrestrial and not extraterrestrial. + The similarity between the Belgian and Hudson Valley flaps was +noted by SOBEPS investigator Patrick Ferryn. Commenting on the +book Night Siege by the late Dr. Allen Hynek, investigator +Phillip Imbrogno and reporter Bob Pratt, which documented the +Hudson Valley cases, Ferryn wrote that "changing only a few +words, exactly the same could be written to give an account of +the position of affairs here! [in Belgium] The same goes for many +entire pages and excerpts elsewhere in the book." + While nobody doubts that people have been seeing something in +both upstate New York and Wallonia in Belgium, the big question +is whether these sightings are caused by true UFOs or by some +kind of new revolutionary secret military aircraft. Foremost +among the proponents of the secret weapon theory is Tony +Gonsalves, a researcher from East Providence, Rhode Island, who +served as a jet mechanic and plane captain for the U.S. Navy on +three aircraft carriers between 1959 and 1963. + In a number of papers written during the last two years, +Gonsalves has developed his theory of "The American made UFO" - +that the boomerangs of Westchester and Duchess counties, as well +as the triangular UFOs of Belgium, Virginia and Puerto Rico, are +actually a modified covert version of the B-2 Stealth Bomber. +Gonsalves believes this craft has been fully operational since +the early 80s, while the official B-2 bomber that was unveiled in +1988 is a "decoy" to deceive the American public, the media and +the Congress. Furthermore, Tony Gonsalves and a few other +ufologists speculate that this secret aircraft may even +incorporate some alien technology obtained from UFO crashes +decades ago. + Gonsalves' theory seemed to gain some credibility when Aviation +Week & Space Technology magazine reported in its October 1, 1990 +edition that, "large, triangular wing-Shaped aircraft" are indeed +being tested out of the Nellis Air Force range in Nevada and the +Tehachapi Mountains near Edwards AFB in California. The well +known aerospace magazine mentioned several sightings by engineers +of "triangular-shaped aircraft, " possibly prototypes for the A- +12, the Navy's new Stealth attack plane, and one or several +versions for reconnaissance aircraft cloaked under the top secret +code of Aurora, to replace the old Lockheed SR-71 "Blackbird" +which was recently mothballed. Aviation Week (sometimes referred +by the nickname of "Aviation Leak") also quoted Air Force sources +who "acknowledged that diamond and triangular-shaped vehicles are +'the trend now,'" as well as unconfirmed reports that some of +these aircraft "were designed to operate at speeds around Mach 10 +or higher." + Because he worked for over 30 years as senior editor of +Aviation Week, where he is still a contributing editor, we sought +the opinion of well known UFO debunker Phillip Klass as to +whether there could be any validity to explain the Hudson Valley +and Belgian flaps with Secret military aircraft, Stealth or +otherwise. "In my opinion the answer is absolutely not," +responded Klass, adding that only those sightings "in the +vicinity of Nellis Air Force Base" in Nevada could be caused by +military aircraft tests. "If there were a secret airplane, " +continued Klass, "for goodness' sake, the last place in the world +you'd want to fly it is in Duchess County, where people have been +alerted to look for objects." + Although they certainly disagree on the final cause of the +sightings, Klass and Phillip Imbrogno seem to be in full +agreement in their rejection of Tony Gonsalves' Stealth theory. +"l can't see the government testing a top secret device in an +area like this, " said Imbrogno. "Number one, what if they have a +problem, what if they crash?" Imbrogno said he had considered +this possibility when he first looked into the boomerang +sightings, but that "I am convinced right now that the Hudson +Valley UFO is not an aircraft, Stealth or otherwise. Number two, +I am not totally convinced that it's from outerspace. Number +three, I don't know what the hell it is." + Meanwhile, sightings continue to pile up in Europe. The latest +case before we go to press was reported in early November, when +"mystery shapes in the sky, variously described as orange balls, +triangles and points of light," were reported in France, Belgium, +Germany, Switzerland and Italy, according to a newswire report +from the Reuter's news agency. Police phone lines were flooded +across the continent with calls about unidentified flying +objects. Experts in Munich speculated the sightings could have +been triggered by the explosion of a meteorite. However, this +explanation could hardly satisfy the familiar sightings in +Belgium, where "dozens of people reported a triangular object +with three lights flying slowly and soundlessly to the +southwest," according to the Reuter report. + The Belgian Air Force was studying once again the case, and so +was France's Service for the Investigation of Re-entry Phenomena +(SEPRA), which is attached to the French National Space Agency in +Toulouse and was formerly known as GEPAN. One Air France pilot +told a radio interviewer: "We were on a flight to Barcelona +(Spain) at about 33,000 feet at about 7 pm when we first saw the +shape. It couldn't have been a satellite because it was there for +three or four minutes." + If the sightings in Belgium and elsewhere turn out to be secret +aircraft, the mystery will become pubic sooner or later, but if +they are indeed caused by true UFOs, then we may be debating them +for a long time to come. Perhaps a summary of the whole Belgian +flap and its meaning was best expressed by SOBEPS Scientist +August Meessen, Professor of Physics at the Catholic University +at Louvain. He told the French magazine Paris Match: "There are +too many independent eyewitness reports to ignore. Too many of +the reports describe coherent physical effects, and there is an +agreement among the accounts concerning what was observed. If all +of these witnesses are lying, then it is a mental disease of such +novelty and proportions that it must be studied." + +<> + + + + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +(6709) Wed 17 Apr 91 6:16p +By: ParaNet(sm) Information Service +To: All +Re: Belgium Information (Conclusion) +St: +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +@EID:5312 16919200 +@MSGID: 1:104/428 48924463 +<<<>>> + + "But of course," continued Prof. Meessen, "there are also +physical effects. The Air Force report allows us to approach the +problem in a rational and scientific way. The simplest hypothesis +is that the reports are caused by extraterrestrial visitors, but +that hypothesis carries with it other problems. We are not in a +rush to form a conclusion, but continue to study the mystery." +The last word about the UFO flap that has brought down "The Wall" +of UFO Silence has yet to be uttered. + + + ABOUT THE AUTHOR Chilean-American journalist Antonio Huneeus +was born in New York in 1950, the son of a Chilean diplomat and +United States official. After studying French at the Sarbonne +University in Paris in 1970 and journalism at the University of +Chile, he worked as science editor for a weekly magazine in +Santiago and was a contributor for a number of newspapers. +Huneeus' UFO investigation began in 1977 with the bizarre "time +warp" incident of Chilean Army Corporal Armando Valdes. Since +then, he has written hundreds of articles on UFOs and related +subjects for such publications as Omni, UFO Report, and the MUFON +JOURNAL in the U.S., as well as for magazines throughout South +America and Europe. Last year he won the UFOlogists of the Year +Award given by the National UFO Conference. The photographs and +art that accompany this article are part of Antonio's UFO +CHRONICLE lecture and slide presentation. Readers may reach the +author directly at Box 1989, New York, NY 10159. + +END + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1411.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1411.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f8e5c380 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1411.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +SUBJECT: TECH NOTES ON THE BELGIUM UFO SIGHTINGS FILE: UFO1411 + +PART 2 + + +(6332) Fri 9 Nov 90 10:16p +By: Michael Corbin +To: All +Re: Re: Belgium +St: Reply to 914 +---------------------------------------------------------------------- +@EID:586e 1569b200 +@MSGID: 1:207/110 b4964729 +From Bill Chalker in Australia - A ParaNet(sm) special correspondent. + +Mike, Re the Document received from the Belgian Defence Department, the full +document follows: + SUMMARY REPORT ON OBSERVATIONS 30-31 MARCH 1990 + +BACKGROUND +1. Starting early Dec 89 the BAF has been contacted on several occasions by +eyewitnesses who observed strange phenomena in the Belgian airspace. On some +occassions they described the phenomena as a triangle-shaped platform up to 200 +feet wide with 3 downward beaming projectors, hovering at +- 100 m above the +ground and making only a very light humming noise. Some witnesses saw the +object departing at very high speed after a very fast acceleration. All +observations were made in the evening or during the night. 2. The radar +stations which had been alerted by eyewitnesses could not definitely determine +a correlation between the visual observations and their detections on radar. +On two occasions the BAF scrambled 2 F16 during the evening hours. a.On the +first occasion the F16 arrived +- 1 hour after the visual detection. Nothing +was observed. b. On the second occassion, pilots could identify a laser-beam +projector on the ground. After investigation it appeared however that the +description of the observations totally differed from previously described +phenomena. 3. Consequently the Belgian Airforce, anxious to identify the origin +of the phenomena, authorised F16 scrambles if following conditions were met: a. +Visual observations on the ground confirmed by the local police. b. Detection +on radar. + +EVENTS +4. On 30 Mar 1990 at 23.00 Hr the Master Controller (MC) of the Air Defence +radar station of Glons received a phone call from a person who declared to +observe three independant blinking lights in the sky, changing colours, with a +much higher intensity than the lights of the stars and forming a triangle. +Meteo conditions were clear sky, no clouds, light wind and a minor temperature +inversion at 3000 Ft. 5. The MC in turn notified the police of WAVRE which +confirmed the sighting at +- 23 30 Hr. Meanwhile the MC had identified a radar +contact at about 8 NM North of the ground observation. The contact moved +slowely to the West at a speed of =- 25kts and an altitude of 10.000 Ft. 6. The +ground observers reported 3 additional light spots which moved gradually, with +irregular speeds, towards the first set of lights and forming a second +triangle. 7. At 23.50 a second radar station, situated at +- 100 NM from the +first, confirmed an identical contact at the same place of the radar contact of +Glons. 8. At 00.05 Hr 2 F16 were scrambled from BEAUVECHAIN airbase and guided +towards the radar contacts. A total of 9 interception attempts have been made. +At 6 occasions the pilots could establish a lock-on with their air interception +radar. Lock-on distances varried between 5 and 8 NM. On all occasions targets +varied speed and altitude very quickly and break-locks occured after 10 to 60 +seconds. Speeds varied between 150 and 1010 kts. At 3 occasions both F16 +registered simultaneous lock-ons with the same parameters. The 2 F16 were +flying +- 2 NM apart. No visual contact could be established by either of the +F16 pilots. 9. The F16 flew 3 times through the observation field of the ground +observers. At the third passage the ground observers notified a change in the +behaviour of the light spots. The most luminous started to blink very +intensively while the other disappeared. Consequently, the most luminous spot +started to dim gradually. 10. Meanwhile the head of the police of WAVRE had +alerted 4 other police stations in the area. All four, seperated +- 10 NM from +each other, confirmed the visual observations. 11. The aircraft landed at 01.10 +Hrs. The last visual observation was recorded at +- 01.30 Hrs. + +CONCLUSIONS +12. The BELGIAN Airforce was unable to identify neither the nature nor the +origin of the phenomena. However, it had sufficient elements to exclude +following assumptions: a. Balloons. Impossible due to the highly variable +speeds (confirmed visually and by radar). b. ULM. Same as for balloons. c. RPV. +Impossible due to the hovering characteristics. d. Aircraft (including +Stealth). Same as for RPV. No noise. e. Laser projections or Mirages. +Unlikely due to lack of projection surface (no clouds). Light spots have been +observed from different locations. Light spots moved over distance of more +than 15 NM. Form of inlighted part of spots has been observed with spectacles. + Laser projections or mirages can not be detected by radar. + + {signed} + W. DE BROUWER + Kol Vl SBH + VS3 +THAT REPRESENTS THE WHOLE DOCUMENT AS RECEIVED. It was described by E. Lamin, +Colonel Brevete d'Etat-Major Chef de la Section Politique de Defense ad interim +as "Veuillez trover, ci-joint, un resume de la declaration faite a la presse, +le 11 juillet 1990, par le Colonel Aviateur Brevete d'Etat-Major DE BROUWER, +Chef de la Section Operations de l'Etat-Major de la Force Aerienne Belge, +relative aux observations en objet." The Summary was the the basis of the press +briefing given on 11 July, 1990 by De Brouwer. The copy as above was sent to +me in English albeit a little in error. All in all an interesting official +summary of the pertinent events. Mike, as Richard Haines specialises in +aircraft cases could you please pass on a copy of this via the fax arrangement +you have set up, with my compliments and warm regards. He may have already +secured this info but in case he hasn't he get this version. Could you also +ask him to advise on his knowledge and position on the affair particular the +photography and a/c RV events. He could do this via Paranet and/or my postal +address: P.O. Box W42, West Pennant Hills, NSW, AUSTRALIA, 2125. Trust you all +all the Paranet researchers find this of interest. Regards from down under. I +look forward to any further info you have on the Belgian affair. - Bill Chalker + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1412.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1412.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..1777b2c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1412.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,175 @@ +SUBJECT: ALIEN STARFIGHTER FOUND ? CANADIAN/USA FILE: UFO1412 + + + +To All CIS and ParaNet members: + +This file is uploaded exactly as I received it. The file came to +me unsigned and in the proverbial brown paper envelope. The text +was postmarked from Canada, and it had no return address. In the +file you will see reference two photo's that were included. What +these were: a xerox of an aerial photo of the Carp, Ontario region +and a very poor xerox of what was supposed to be an alien. No +detail was observed. Just a poor shot of what appeared to be a +"Grey". All in all, this is extremely "suspect" and the only +reason that I uploaded it was that there had been much comment +regarding it, not only here but on ParaNet. So: +read it at your own risk. + +Don Ecker + + + +***************************************************************** + + The Alledged C/R of the 11/89 "Alien Starfighter" + + +Canadian and American Security Agencies are engaged in a conspiracy +of silence, to withhold from the world the alien vessel seized in +the swamps of Corkery Road, Carp, in 1989. + +UFO sightings in the Ontario region had intensified in the 1980's, +specifically, around nuclear power generating stations. On Nov. +4, 1989 at 20:00 hrs Canadian Defense Dept. radars picked up a +globe shaped object travelling at phenomenal speed over Carp, +Ontario. The UFO abruptly stopped, and dropped like a stone. + +Canadian and American Security Agencies were immediately notified +of the landing. Monitoring satellites traced the movements of the +aliens to a triangular area. (see aerial map) off Almonte and +Corkery Roads. + +The ship had landed in deep swamp near Corkery Road. Two AH-64 +Apaches and a UH-60 Blackhawk headed for the area the following +night. The helicopters carried full weapon loads. They were part +of a covert American unit that specialized in the recovery of alien +craft. + +Flying low over Ontario pine trees the Apache attack choppers soon +spotted a glowing, blue, 20 metre in diameter sphere. As targeting +lasers locked-on, both gunships unleashed their full weapon loads +of 8 missiles each. All 16 were exploded in proximity bursts 10 +metres downwind from the ship. + +The missiles were carrying VEXXON, a deadly neuroactive gas which +kills on contact. Exposed to air the gas breaks down quickly into +inert components. Immediately after having completed their mission +the gunships turned around, and headed back across the border. + +Now the Blackhawk landed, as men exploded from its open doors. In +seconds the six man strike team had entered the UFO through a 7 +metre hatchless, oval portal. No resistance was encountered. At +the controls, 3 dead crewman were found. + +With the ship captured, the US Air Force, Pentagon, and Office of +Naval Intelligence were notified. Through the night a special team +of technicians had shut-down and disassembled the sphere. Early +the next morning Nov. 6, 1989 construction equipment and trucks +were brought into the swamp. The UFO parts were transported to a +secret facility in Kanata, Ontario. + +As a cover story the locals were informed that a road was being +built through the swamp. No smokescreen was needed for the +military activity as Canadian forces regularly train in the Carp +region. Officially nothing unusual was reported in the area. +Although someone anonymously turned in a 35mm roll of film. It was +received by the National Research Council of Canada, in Ottawa. +The film contained several clear shots of an entity holding a +light. (see photo) At this time the photographer is still +unidentified. + +The humanoids were packed in ice and sent to an isolation chamber +at the Univ. of Ottawa. CIA physiologists performed the autopsies. + +The reptilian, fetus-headed beings, were listed as CLASS 1 NTE's. +(Non Terrestrial Entities) Like others recovered in previous +operations, they were muscular, grey-white skinned, humanoids. + +The ship was partially reassembled at the underground facility in +Kanata. Unlike previous recoveries this one is pure military. +Built as a "Starfighter" it is heavily armed and armored. In +design no rivets, bolts, or welds were used in fastening, yet when +reconstructed there are no seams. The UFO itself is made up of a +matrixed dielectric magnesium alloy. It is driven by pulsed +electromagnetic fields generated by a cold fusion reactor. All +offensive capabilities utilize independently targeting electronic +beam weapons. In the cargo hold were found ordnance racks +containing fifty Soviet nuclear warheads. Their purpose was +revealed by advanced tactical/combat computers located in the +flight deck. + +Threatened by recent East-West relations, and the revolutionary +movements within itself, Red China is preparing for the final +ideological war. The aliens have agreed to defend China from the +free world's combined military and nuclear forces. + +At this time China is arming the Middle East with their own nuclear +arsenals, in order that they can successfully take on Israel. +Unifying the Arabs under one Chinese command was simple, especially +with Israel's recent "iron fist" attitude toward occupied +territories. + +The Soviet warheads found in the UFO were destined for Syria. CIA +operatives in the Middle East have noticed huge movements of +Chinese "technicians" and "advisors". China is also supplying the +Arabs with bacteriological agents, Migs, Hind gunships, tanks, and +missile launchers. + +The use of "Soviet" instead of "Chinese" nukes is part of a +disinformation campaign to break up East-West relations after the +annihilation of Israel. The Warheads were hijacked from Soviet +subs in the Dragon's Triangle. A section of alien controlled +Pacific once frequented by Russian subs. After losing some 900 +high yield warheads and 13 vessels, commanders were ordered to +steer clear of the area. + +The most important alien-tech. find were the 2 milimetre, spheroid, +brain implants. Surgical inserted through the nasal orifice the +individual can be fully monitored and controlled. The CIA and +Canadian Govt have actively supported mind-slave experiments for +years. Currently the Univ. of Ottawa is involved in ELF wave mind +control programs. A continuation of the CIA psychological warfare +project known as MKULTRA, started at the Allen Memorial Institute +in Montreal. + +Using ELF signals transmitted at the same wavelength the human +brain uses, the researchers could subliminally control the test +subject. The alien implants utilize the same principles except +that the whole unit is subminiaturized and contained in the brain. +Fortunately the implants can be detected by magnetic resolution +scanning technology. All individuals implanted by the aliens are +classified as ZOMBIES. + +The ZOMBIES have been programmed to help overthrow Mankind in the +near future. When China finishes with Israel it will invade +Europe. At the same time Chinese spacebased bacteriological +weapons will be launched at the Arctic. The winds will carry the +diseases into Russia and North America. In days 100's of millions +will be dead, survivors will have to deal with Chinese, aliens, and +the ZOMBIES. + +The aliens want all out war so that human resistance would be +minimal, when they invade. They tried this same tactic once before +with Nazi Germany. Most of the scientific advances we have today +came from German science which was based on alien technology. Had +Hitler won the war, the earth would have become a concentration +camp.In order to depopulate the continents for the aliens. + +Data aboard the sphere explained why the aliens are so comfortable +on our world. They preceded man on the evolutionary scale by +millions of years; created with the dinosaurs. Some 675 million +years ago an interdimensional war destroyed most of their +civilization, and forced them to leave the earth. Now they have +chosen to reclaim what was once theirs. + +The alien forces with their Chinese and Arab allies will attack +within the next 5 years. Waiting longer than that would make it +impossible even for the aliens to reverse the ecological damage +inflicted on the Earth by Man. +***************************************************************** + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1413.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1413.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e3c136d2 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1413.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,450 @@ +SUBJECT: SHIRLEY COYNE ABDUCTED - BUDD HOPKINS FILE: UFO1413 + + + + +[This is a transcript of the May 29, 1988 Issues conference with abductee +Shirley Coyne] + + ID Nod Rm Name / Forum Area + ---- ------------ --- --- ----------------- + 2 72135,424 PNX 5 Drax + 34 76067,3777 MRT 5 Sysop Ted Markley + 35 74270,3360 BOI 5 DON + 49 70511,17 CRZ 5 Mike + 68 76703,266 WBU 5 G-WIZ + 71 Guest FLM 5 Shirley + 81 71605,2013 OKC 5 Gerry Zeitlin + 112 75376,1620 CVK 5 DBW + 115 71331,1003 DLQ 3 steve + 58 71521,240 CSG 5 Thomas F. Powell + +(Sysop Ted) Tonight we are privileged to have as our guests Shirley and George +Coyne. The Coynes are Co-state Mufon directors and are not new comers to the +UFO abduction phenomenon. In addition to their MUFON activities they are both +are much involved in helping abduction victims. As if this were not enough to +make them interesting guests, Shirley is herself an abductee. Shirley, to get +things kicked off I have a few questions that I know will be +on everyone's mind. So let's start with: +. +Can you describe your abduction experience and include such information as when +did you first become aware of the encounter and how many times has this happened +to you. + +(5,Shirley) I had been trying to make up my mind since 82 to have regression +when we started have some sightings in 1983, the fear and emotional feelings got +worse. I walked straight up to Budd and he looked at my name tag and said you're +the girl Dan Wright has been telling me about. Under regression the story came +out. I was 9 years old. My mother shot at them and the shot woke me up. (with a +22). The beings told me I had to come with them. When they took me through the +living room, I could see my mother. kneeling at the window, and she was frozen +with the gun to her shoulder. +This was in Arkansas on a 500 acre cotton plantation. They floated me across the +living room and the door was closed, it never opened. We went through wall and +all. I remember going up the ramp but didn't remember entering. My next memory +was sitting on a table affair in a circular room. Very cold and very frightened. +I was put through a physical examination. They took me back and tucked me in; my +mother was still at the window. I'll stop here for any questions.ga + +(Ted) Please describe the beings GA + +(5,Shirley) They were 3.5 to 4 ft tall. Very soft gray color which looked almost +white. Large black round eyes. Very large head. No ears. Two little holes for a +nose. A slit for a mouth. Their skin was marshmellowy. + +(Ted) Ok. any others want to jump in here with ?s. GA + +(5,DBW) ? + +(Ted) Ok Dale ga + +(5,DBW) Shirley, please describe the black helicopter experience and also phone +tapping and being followed that we heard about and have you done an FOIA for +info on a file about you with FBI NSA, etc? GA + +(5,Shirley) No we have not done an FOIA yet. We suspect NSA involved and have +been told that by a man from the military. He says they fly that type of +helicopter. I understand details of some of our helicopter experiences are in +the uploaded article in the library here. When we had our sightings (ufo +sightings) in 83 around our property, we saw as many as 16 at one time buzzing +around our property. Not at the same time a UFO was visible.Two weeks ago on May +15, at 11 am we were on our way to Lansing for the MUFON membership meeting. I +looked out the window near Perry, MI, the black Helicopter was pacing our car. +It stayed with us till the arrival at the meeting. Then someone came in and said +come out here there's a big black helicopter flying around. We went out, George +got a picture, and one of the members got 2 minutes on a video camera. The air +national guard denied that it belonged to them. They say they have no black +helicopter and do not operate at low altitude over cities. There were as many as +3 over the area at one time. Even DBC saw one of them. On the way George blinked +his lights, and the copter blinked its lights at us, when we were in the parking +lot. The blinking light of the copter is on video. ga + +(5,Drax) ? + +(5,DBW) follow up? + +(Ted) Dale one short follow the Georgia then DRAX ga + +(5,DBW) Shirley, Rick Dell'Aquilla, my Co-Director is competing against you for +the Central States Director. Rick is a lawyer who has never had an abductee +experience or a sighting. I would like to ask, with no dis-respect intended, if +this is a stunt to gain support for your appointment.ga + +(Ted) ga Shirley + +(5,Shirley) No way Jose....George believes in his record speaking for itself. We +had nothing to do with the helicopters appearing at any time. ga + +(Ted) Georgia yer UP! + +(5,G-WIZ) Shirley, how much did your mother remember of the abduction shooting, +or anything? ga + +(5,Shirley) My mother was terrified. She is very religious and refuses to talk +much about it. She does remember it, the shooting and all. They rest of my +family also remembers. There were 8 of us children at that time. Some of the +other children were abducted, and they rember the incident. They have not +acknowledged any abductions yet. ga + +(5,G-WIZ) thanks. ga Ok. + +(Ted) Drax is up and then I have a question. GA DRAX + +(5,DBC) ? + +(5,Drax) Hi Shirley (Jim Speiser of AZ MUFON) +<1> Any markings on the helicopter that stand out in your mind. +<2> Are you aware that Dan Wright is circulating a list of people that should be +on the lookout for these copters (or am I talking out of school)? + +(5,Shirley) Yes there were specific markings on the left side. A white cicle +with a black circle inside the white circle. We do not talk up that markings +order to allow us to compare with other reports. So please don't spread that +around much. Regarding the question of the list, we are aware of that.ga +(5,Drax) Thanks GA + +(5,DON) ?? + +(Ted) Shirley, did the being speak or communicate anything vocal or were there +any sounds at all. ga + +(5,Shirley) Yes they communicated telepathically. ga + +(Ted) Did they say anything verbally or was it all telepathic? ga + +(5,Shirley) It was all telepathic.ga + +(5,Drax) ? + +(Ted) Don next ga + +(5,DON) Hi Shirley, Don from Id. MUFON. I just signed in, and wanted to ask +about your suspicions concerning tapped telephones, etc. Have you been able to +have your lines swept by the phone co. or perhaps private security firms? Also +have you had any problems with mail, or any other reason to suspect you are +under surveillance? If you think that it may be from fed. government, the FOIA +will enable you to find out if there are any files on you, and what they +contain. ga + +(5,Shirley) Yes we believe our phone is tapped and I understand there are some +details of it in the uploaded TXT in the library. We have been in touch with MI +Bell, but they won't cooperate we suspect they have a court order. We have not +contacted a private firm to help us detect the tap. I think an FOIA would be +joke. We suspect all the black helicopter activity is just a means of telling us +they have us under surveillance.ga + +(5,DON) follow + +(Ted) Don, a quick follow? ga + +(5,DON) Shirley, I have been a policeman for over ten years and in order to have +a court order, you would have to be suspected of a crime or a national security +threat. Also it is mighty expensive to operate a helicopter on an hourly basis +if it was the feds, I think they would find a less expensive way to transmit +you that message. Have you had any contact with any federal agencies, or have +they contacted you? ga + +(5,DBW) ? + +(5,Shirley) We have had no contact with the gov. directly. Since when does the +govt worry about nickels and dimes? The gov. actually considers MUFON... +a national security risk. Thus we may fall under that category, and possibly +because we work with abductees. ga + +(5,Gerry) ? + +(Ted) DBC did you have a ? GA + +(5,Drax) ? + +(5,DBC) Shirley, I understand you had a mysterious pregnancy when you were 17 +the pregnancy terminated after 3 months without any explanation can you tell us +more about that abduction? ga + +(5,Shirley) I was in Florida at the time. They abducted me and impregnated me +clinically (I didn't know it until later under hypnosis). Then they came back +(now in Arkansas) and apparently took the fetus I definitely was pregnant +because I had been to the doctor and no trace was left. The doctor couldn't +understand what happened, because I didn't abort. ga + +(5,DBC) There have been example told by Budd Hopkins of subjects seeing a child +later on that may have been the result of the fetus development. Have you ever +experienced this type of encounter? ga + +(5,Shirley) Yes, when the baby was very very small and also on several other +occasions. The child had very small features very pale skin. Red hair, very +wispy. He has very blue eyes. A blue you cannot really describe. ga + +(5,DON) ?? + +(Ted) Dale is next followed by DRAX then Gerry DON and Ted GA Dale! + +(5,DBW) Shirley, after people get involved in these type of incidents, they +usually tend to go towards different positions of faith. Have you been drawn to +crystals, the bible, or some other form of semi religious or religious +realm.....And a follow up ? + +(5,Shirley) Like MUFON policy, I'm strictly a nuts and bolts person on this +subject. The Bible has always been a part of my life, and I'm definitely not +into crystals. I am not into past lives, channeling, and other paranormal +activities. Strictly nuts and bolts. ga + +(Ted) Drax is up next ga drax + +(5,Drax) Shirley, Will you and George be at Lincoln and if so, will you bring +the copter video? And how can we confirm that the US Govt. considers MUFON a +security risk? GA + +(5,Shirley) Regarding the Lincoln conference, does a cat a have a tail? + +(5,Drax) Haha! + +(5,Shirley) Yes, we will bring the video of the helicopter and an audio tape +from the regression-related incident.... + +(5,Phil Klass) this i want to c + +(5,Shirley) Regarding the gov as considering MUFON a security risk.... + +(5,Drax) [Kiss my Klass, Don] + +(5,Shirley) why else would they tap phones, tamper with mail and harass us with +helicopters etc. By the way our mail is frequently delivered open and sloppily +taped shut. And some letters never arrive at their destination. For example, I +sent Don Ware a copy of some signs and symbols that I wrote during a period of +"sleep". And he never received it. I also sent a copy of it to someone else, and +they never received it. ga + +(5,Drax) follow up? + +(Ted) Ok DRAX Follow + +(5,Drax) If I may just suggest its just possible that whoever is doing this is +not connected with the govt. there may be "higher authorities" at work. Just a +theory. GA + +(5,DBW) ? + +(Ted) Drax - just what did you have in mind!?! ga + +(5,Shirley) You mean God or UFOs? + +(Ted) Or Ted? + +(5,Drax) No, something in between. Not Ted, or Georgia, either! Perhaps a +well-funded multinational conspiracy of some kind. GA + +(5,Drax) I'm done. GA + +(Ted) Gerry has been patiently waiting GA Gerry + +(5,Gerry) Drax's theory has to be considered always but I was going to say that +the blinking light exchange when they could see you videotaping which means you +would likely show it at a conference means we ALL are being put on notice that +they or somebody is interested in us. Also about the child did you, Shirley, see +the drawing in Intruders and would you say there was resemblance to the child +you saw? ga + +(5,Shirley) I have not seen the drawing in Intruders. Budd gave me the book, but +I have not read it or others like it in order not to contaminate the case +However, I have made drawings long before the book came out and I'm told the +drawings resemble those in the book also last year at the MUFON conf. in DC, +without thinking Budd showed me some drawings. And I burst into tears. ga + +(5,Gerry) follow... + +(Ted) Ok follow Gerry ga + +(5,Gerry) The blinking light would have been done by the pilot on the spur of +the moment and may not itself indicate any policy or higher intent but the +general visibility of all those helicopters still makes me think it is a message +to all of us. Wise of you not to look at Budd's book yet. ga + +(5,Shirley) Another reason I have not read the book is that Kathy Davis (of +Intruders) and I became very close friends and I'm not ready to deal totally +with what happened to her. We have never discussed our individual cases when we +get together. ga + +(Ted) Don is up then Ted then Dale ga DON + +(5,DON) Shirley, during any of these experiences have you ever received any +explanation of "WHY" I mean, why the genetic experiments and perhaps why are +they here? Anything? ga + +(5,Shirley) I can't answer that. I was told something, but I'd prefer not to +say. ga + +(5,DON) What was the last part, ran off the screen + +(5,Shirley) prefer not to say.ga + +(5,DON) WHY + +(5,Shirley) There are things we have to keep secret so we can compare to other +cases. And we don't want other people picking up the same story. As for example +Budd Hopkins always holds certain things back in order to validate information +coming from other cases. ga + +(5,DON) !!!!!!???!!!!1 + +(Ted) Don Follow ? + +(5,DON) Yes. Ok Shirley, for years this is one of the things that have split the +UFO fraternity, everyone has a secret. Right now I am researching a paper +concerning the aspects of the phenomenon that have proved both dangerous and +deadly. Going back in the 40 years that this has been investigated there have +been dozens and perhaps hundreds that have been harmed or even died while being +involved with this subject. Now a week after talking to Hopkins, and it is +obvious that he does not believe that they are harmful,. however this does not +seem to be the case. Now this forum is for the exchanging of +information, and hopefully the truth. If you have an insight as to what you +believe may be behind this mystery, don't you think you owe it to the forum and +MUFON to share it? ga + +(5,Shirley) We guess like everyone else. They are in control. We have NO +control. As to the question of WHY I'll go this far. They told me that they +needed our help so that they could breed love and compassion into their race +they have no intention of harming us. They have caused pain to people they have +abducted, but when they were aware of the pain they eased it for us. ga + +(Ted) Apparently they do not feel pain themselves? Also What kind of self help +group are there? and finally. Can I call you during the day this coming week? GA + +(5,Shirley) We have formed an abductee support group in MI that meets monthly +yes you can call anytime.ga + +(Ted) Do they not feel pain? ga + +(5,Shirley) I don't know. I suspect that they do not.ga + +(Ted) Dale has been very anxiously waiting GA DALE + +(5,DON) Dale is off line + +(Ted) Oh No! MIB's! Ok anyone else at this point GA + +(Ted) George have you anything to add? Have you had an experience yourself? + +(5,George) Mainly on Sept. 23 of 1983, and again on April 19 of 1986. I have had +two encounters within 75 feet. They stopped my pacemaker and I had to have the +pacemaker surgically removed both times each time much dead tissue was removed. +ga + +(Ted) Was the pacemaker ever analyzed as to the cause of failure? I know a +little about this area to know that the manufacture would be almost paranoid +because of potential product liability suits if one of their units failed. GA + +(5,George) There was nothing wrong with the pacemaker my surgeon is convinced +that microwave caused it to shut down and caused the burned tissue around the +device.ga + +(Ted) Were you near any Microwave radiating equipment? Also, if it happens +again scream LAWSUIT. You'll get plenty of in depth analysis of the unit. +Microwave once maybe, but twice... I dunno. GA + +(5,Drax) (Listen, I know a good law-yuh...) + +(5,George) there were no microwave sources in my home or in my presence at +either of these times. I'm firmly convinced that because of the timing of both +incidents, the ufos were to blame. I cannot blame the manufacturer. There are +too many unnecessary law suits as it is. ga + +(Ted) Yes, I know, but if you want to get an in depth and VERY detailed look at +the failed unit then complain to the manufacture. GA + +(5,Gerry) ! + +(5,Drax) ! +(5,George) The only thing I want to do is get answers from the ufos. Each time I +try to get them (ufos) to talk to me. So far they have chosen not to, as far as +I know. ga + +(Ted) Gerry is up then DRAX GA Gerry + +(5 Gerry) Aside from the fact that there were no appliances nearby were there +are other problems with the uwave idea not that it really matters but this could +either be a case of the well-known stoppage of electrical and electronic gadgets +but for the first time with organic tissue around them or a case of a directed +energy of some kind possibly meant to kill you. ga + +(5,George) I absolutely reject the theory that they were(].?-_##W# +o##/O5 to me. They came around us after I was injured. But they seemed to be +aware and subsequently kept a greater distance.ga + +(5,Gerry) ok, but there is still the first thought. That now we know a bit more +about what is happening to devices that stop Namely there is a lot of heat or +other energy in their immediate vicinity. ga + +(Ted) Ok is up GA DRAX + +(5,Drax) We mentioned lawyers before and I know George seems adverse to the idea +of suing but I am aware of at least one project going on right now to try and +sign up as many qualified trial attorneys as possible who would be willing to +work pro-bono. (that means FREE!) or at least for drastically curtailed fees on +a lawsuit against the govt. related to UFOs specifically charging that the +govt. is not doing its job in protecting us from an outside menace. I think if +such a project gets off the ground, citizens like yourself, George and Shirley, +might want to consider joining such a suit. GA + +(5,George) Shirley is the one who has a legal complaint. The national tabloids +have quoted her many times, without benefit of interviews or permission to use +her name or picture. And they sensationalize facts that were in the original +interview from the Washington Post for example. ga + +(5,Drax) Go for it, Shirley! But I assure you, you have a complaint as well, +George. GA + +(Ted) We could go on for hours (and we have!). I want to thank Shirley, George, +and finally DBC for his time and effort in bringing us the Coynes this evening. +I hope that Shirley and George will join us again. It has been absolutely +fascinating! Also Jim and I are going to be roomies at the MUFON conference in +Lincoln and we want all you to know that we will be organizing a gathering +during the conference. Hope you can all make it. Any comments Jim? + +(5,Drax) PARTY!!!!! Bring your best vis and your best party favors! + +(Ted) + +(5,Drax) Look for the Speiser/Markley room! + +(Ted) The dynamic duo will prevail! + +(5,George/Shirley) We want to say we've enjoyed it and would like to return +again sometime. Also we look forward to meeting you all in Lincoln.ga + +(Ted) Great! + +(5,Drax) Be seeing ya there, G & S! + +(Ted) Thanks again and we hope to see you all soon. + +(5,George/Shirley) We are bringing 14 in our motor home from MI.ga + +(5,Mike) Good night Ted + +(5,Drax) Nite everyone, its been fascinating! + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1414.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1414.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..058a5cc0 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1414.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,678 @@ +SUBJECT: COMPUSERVE CON WITH GEORGE & SHIRLEY COYNE FILE: UFO1414 + + + +*********** The Issues Forum 12/10/89 19:58:55 + + + Ted | Tonight we are fortunate to have as our special guests... + | Shirley and George Coyne (with Bert acting as a local host.)... + | The Coyne's are not new to our forum as about a year ago they... + | were guest in a similar Sunday night session.... + | For those of you who were not there the transcript is in LIB 10 + | under COYNE.CO. Shirley is an Abductee and was mentioned in... + | "Intruders". Tonights CO will be formal and I will... + | start out with a brief on-line interview... + | Shirley, at our last CO you were plagued with survailence by... + | "Black Helicopters" is that still going on? ga + SHIRLEY | ok... + | Funny you should mention that. At about 5:00 pm tonight... + | a black helicopter flew slowly over our trailer.... + | It is interesting that George had told several people on + | the + | phone that Bert was going to be here around that time. + | However, Bert + | did not arrive until 5:30. So he did not see it. George did get + | some photographs of it. Hope they come out. It was low + | enough to see + | the special insignia that we now recognize. Also a few + | months ago... + | we were working with some abductees who were scheduled to be... + | at our place at 7:00 pm. The copter showed up at 6:45 and + | hovered for 45 min. The people had had a previous experience with the + | copter and turned and ran when they got here and saw it. GA + Ted | Ok... + | What do you think the significance is of the helicopters? Has... + | you opinion changed since our last CO? ga + SHIRLEY + | We still think it's the NSA as determined by their telling... + | Senator Reigle to "bow out". GA + Ted | Please explain. ga + George | ok... + | We had written to Reigle and he wrote letters to CIA, NSA and + | FBI... + | trying to get them to cease harrassing us. FBI told Reigl that... + | they were not interested in George and Shirley Coyne as ... + | investigative subjects. And the NSA said that they were... + | not interested in George Coyne as a subject. And the next day... + | Sen. Reigle closed the case. GA + Ted | Ok... + | Any new sightings/experiences since our last CO? ga + Shirley | We have not had any. But there have been a number of new + | abuductees.... + | found who are waiting for help (regression). GA + Ted | Ok... + | What is your advice to others who might find... + | themselves victims of the abduction phenomenon? ga + Shirley | ok... + | First we reassure them that we don't feel that any + | intentional... + | harm has been exhibited, in order to set their minds at ease. + | ... + | If they are not having any problems coping, we advise them to + | ... + | leave it alone. Because once they embark there is no turning + | back. GA + Ted | Ok.... + | I will now open the floor to general questions GA People! + Bill | ? + Ted | Ga Bill + Bill | Shirley, I hope I'm not wasting the group time by asking for + | conjecture... + Bill | but...It has become quite apparent to me over the years... + | that intelligent interests in our government work very hard... + | to go WAY out of their way to make it bizarrely obvious to + | people... + | that they are under sr + | surveillance. Would you care to offer... + | a guess as to why?? What is their goal in this? And why do + | you think... + | your problems are NSA?? If the CIA didn't respond negatively + | to Reigle, maybe it's them. + | .. + | Besides, they are more often involved in the...less passive + | aspects of intelligence/ GA + Ted | GA Shirley + Shirley | ok... + | perhaps they are afraid we are being given secrets... + | that might get in the wrong hands. We think it was NSA + | because... + | Reigle closed the case the day after he heard from NSA. He was + | probably... + | told to drop it. This was before he heard from CIA. Again the + | CIS said... + | they were not interested in this. GA + Terry | ? + Ted | I am sure + | you ment CIA not CIS.... + | GA Terry + Terry | Shirley, can you describe thew chopper's insignia? + | ga + Shirley | ok... + Ted | GA Shirley + Shirley | It's an approximately two foot white circle... + | with a small black circle in the middle of it. GA + | Also... + Terry | On a black chopper? + Shirley | the chopper is black with black windows, no numbers... + Ted | Does that strike a familiar note Terry? ga + Terry | No....do you measn a white disk with a black circle on it... + Shirley | no letters....insignia is on left side partially on door and + | "nose" .ga + Terry | or a black circle withina white circle? + Shirley | ok... + | It's a black solid circle within a larger white circle. GA + Terry | Thanks,. ga + julie | / + | ? + Ted | Have you had a personal encounter or abdcuvtion since... + | our last CO? ga + Shirley | No we have not. ga + | Our last abduction... + Ted | Ok, Julie is next + Shirley | was August of 83. ga + julie | What do you think the purpose of the copter is--just letting + | you know they're watching? + Shirley | ok... + | we think they are trying to scare us out of the field... + | because we do so much public speaking on radio, TV, + | newspapers... + | private groups, etc. ga + julie | are you being scared at all? + Jack | ? + Terry | ? + Shirley | We are more scared of the government than the "aliens". ga + Ted | Jack is next + Jack | Ok... + | After reading several of the "abduction books" out on the + | market... + | it seems that a common thread is the continuing (and previous + | from childhood).. + | activity or interest by the abductors. Is this the case with + | most... + | abductees (including yourselves) ? ga + Shirley | Yes... + | GA + Terry | ? + Ted | Terry GA + Terry | If the chopper photos come out... + | will copies be available? ga + Shirley | Sure... + | we also have a video from a previous encounter.... + | this on occured during a Michigan MUFON meeting with 54 + | attendees. ... + | We watched the video a number times that day during meeting. GA + Terry | How can I get a copy? ga + Shirley | I'll see if I can have a copy made. Will try to get it to you + | through... + | Bert. ga + Terry | Thanks. ga + Ted | Shirley, Jack talked about the "common threads" from + | childhood... + | can you tel us about your early childhood expereinces? ga + Shirley | ok... + | In my first experience I was 9 years old. I was taken from my + | bedroom... + Bill | ? + Shirley | after my mother shot at them a rifle. I was taken aboard the + | craft... + | put through a painful examination. I encountered on + | particular... + | entity that I know as Ooulaad. I have encountered the same + | "individual"... + | on a number of occassions since that particular abduction. Not + | all... + | of my experiences have been painful, and they have not all + | been... + | bad. The experience in 1983 was a healing experience. After + | that... + | experience I was cured of a life long bout with Lupus and + | Addisons Disease. ga + Ted | Ok, Bill is next ga + Bill | Shirley, I'm undergoing hypnosis with David Jacobs..,. + | and I've recalled a number of abductions so far... + | I feel emotionally calm, but I am not ready to accept... + | the regression "memories" an anything other than fantasy yet. + | How do you... + | distinguish the two and how long did it take you/or does it + | take... + | most folks without a conscious contact experience, to accept + | the "memories" + | as reality? I have a second ? too, if there's no line. GA + Shirley | ok... + | first outside of Budd Hopkins, you probably could not do better + | than... + | David Jacobs. He is one of the best.... + | David should be able to make a reasonable judgement as to + | what... + | is fact or fantasy. It is very common... + | to feel that it's fantasy during the first few sessions.... + | it's also harder for men to accept the experience than women.... + | because men are brought up to feel more in control. ga + Terry | ? + Bill | GA Terry + Ted | Ok, Bill any follow up? ga + Terry | Shirley, did any of your experiences o cur... + | near St. Augustine, Fla? ga + Shirley | One of my encounters when I... + | was 17 was in Orlando, Florida. I think Bill had a followup + | question. ga + Bill | OK< sorry Terry... + | Ted wanted me to ask about a thing I had on my finger... + | It is a conscious memory, vivid. I came home as a kid & + | walked... + | in the house and there was this thing attached to my finger... + | It was opaque, and yet you could not see the bottom... + | It had the consistency of flesh or rubber, was on the end of... + | my 2nd or 3rd finger from the thumb... + | and had lots of little tiny glittery specs in it... + | It could not be dislodged and I had no idea where it came + | from... + | My parents noticed it first. Two weeks later, just before a + | scheduled... + | doctor's visit to examine it, it disappeared the same way. No + | memory.. + | my parents noticed it first. Ever heard of such an external + | "implant?" GA + Shirley | ok... + Richard Salts: (5-11 Richard) I a + Shirley | I haven't really heard of anything like that. How big was it? ga + Ted | Ok... + Bill | It was the width of the finger, was towards the end... + | Like a super big blister, I guess, but I'm not... + | sure of the size of my fingers at the time. It had no sense of + | ... + | feeling or touch unless I tried to pry it off, then I felt the + | pull... + Terry | ! + Bill | on the skin underneath. Under hypnosis, I recalled it being ... + | applied. First, little holes were made in the skin, and then + | an... + | adhesive was applied in the score marks and on the thing. GA + Ted | I have heard of something like that twice now (other than + | Bill).. + | First time ws fro, Budd Hopkins and the "Glittery" implant.. + | was in a young boy's chest. It "popped" out and broke... + | and was described as "mica" like in substance. The second... + | time occurance was also on the finger. At this point I can't + | recall... + GEORGE FORD: ? + Ted | where I read it. But it was in the last 6 months... + | I will check! GA Terry + Terry | Nothing, just a silly thought. ga + Bill | ! + Shirley | ! + Ted | Nothing is silly here GA + Terry | I'm silly almost everywhere, Ted. I just thought it sounded + | like a ... + | wart. + | Sorry. ga + Ted | Ah! A Mica filled "wart." Ok, GEORGE is next GA + GEORGE FORD: DID ANYONE SEE THE MOVIE COMMUNION? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON MOVIE? GA + Ted | Ok.. + | George we are having a formal CO... + | with Abductee Shirley Coyne as a guest... + John | Hi, all!! + Ted | after we get through the formal; part we can talk about... + | general experiences. GA Bill + Bill | ok + | I just wanted to clarify a detail I provided about the + | "thing."... + | The tiny holes scored in my finger were painless, and done with + | a chrome- + | like hook thing. Glue was dropped in there, and then the + | adhesive that was... + GEORGE FORD: YES + Bill | placed on the "thing" was actually placed. + | ... + | on the RIM of the circular thing. This made it impossible... + | for me to get anything underneath it and pry it off. It + | wouldn't budge. GA + Ted | Ok... + Jack | ? + Alf | ? + Ted | Interesting! Shirley did you have a comment? ga + Shirley | ok... + | I have heard of situations where when the people came... + | out of the craft, they had some sort of glitter on their body. + | I have... + | not heard of the "attachment" procedure you describe. ... + | This past week right after a series of "dreams" that George and + | I... + | both had, we discovered a small yellow ball a little larger + | than... + | a beebee.... + | it is very light and scored. I have tried to cut it with a + | knife... + Terry | ? + Shirley | and took finger nail file to it. I could not mark it at all. + | The three... + | of us are sitting here looking at it right now. It would be + | interesting... + | to get it analyzed. ga + Terry | ? + Ted | Yes it would... + | Bert, as a scientist what does it look like to you? ga + Bert | ok... + | It looks pretty much like Shirley described. It sort of looks + | sort... + Jack | ? + Bert | of like a pearl, however it has some grooves in it.... + | when we look at it under a magnifying glass, it looks sort of + | like... + | are you ready for this.... + | a small "brain" . GA + Terry | ? + Ted | Ok... + | (I'll refrain from comment.) GA Jack + Jack | ok... + | Does the ball float ? Is it magnetic ? Also, Shirley have you + | verbal... + | communication with the individual you named ? ga + Bert | ok... + Shirley | We are testing it right now for flotation. Hang on... + | OK, it does not float. It dropped like a rock... + Terry | ? + Shirley | We are surprised because it is so light. ga + Jack | ga Terry + Terry | Where did you find it? + Shirley | ok... + Terry | ga + Shirley | It was in the living room besides George's chair. We are... + | noticing right now that exposure to the water resulted in... + | a change in color, from yellow to white. It also now seems to + | be... + | acquiring some "glitter". ga + Jack | ? + Bill | ! + Ted | Ok.. + | Alf is next GA Alf + Alf | ok... + Jack | sen 4 Bert It should be easy to measure density/specific + | gravity in the water + Alf | Shirley, among abductees has anyone reported memories... + | of creatures that look like "elf"s (for lack of a better + | analogy)... + | but not like those creatures that Strieber reports ? ga + Shirley | Yes... + GEORGE FORD: ? + Shirley | we are aware of "creatures" (I saw one myself)... + | 3 and a half to 4 feet tall... + | brownish yellow hair about 4 inches long.... + | and they are stockier than the "grays"... + | they sometimes wear a brown hooded cloak. When I saw it, George + | and... + | another abductee were in the room with me, and they did not see + | it. ga + | He laid his hand... + Shirley | on my shoulder and then disappeared. ga + Ted | Tery is next. GA Terry + Alf | ! + Terry | I asked mine and was answered, Ted. ga + Bill | ?! + Ted | Ok.. GA ALF + Alf | thx... + | Shirley , what you just said was NOT comforting! ..what did... + | you mean it 'disappeared' ? (that I didn't expect you to saY!) + | ga + Shirley | ok... + | it was just as if it moved out of our dimension into another. + | The... + | same way it probably came in. ga + Alf | ? + Shirley | I know it's hard to swallow, but it's the truth. ga + Ted | Ga Alf + Alf | Was it in your room , your home? ga + Shirley | It was in the home... + Alf | ! + Shirley | of an abductee that we were interviewing. ga + Ted | Ok.. + Terry | ? + Ted | Bill is next. GA Bill + Bill | ? + | OK... + | Is glitter still appearing? What color(s) are showing up?.. + Shirley | ok... + Bill | My both appeared and disappeared on uneventful walks home from + | the... + | local swimming pool, so I was wet at the time. GA + Jack | ? + Shirley | After holding the round thing, were are all noticing now... + | that there is a little glitter on our hands. The thing is + | still... + | it's changed color (white). It now seems to have a few .... + Jack | ! + Shirley | small black specks in it. ga + Ted | Ok.. + Bill | F-U? + | That's follow up, not profane FU + Ted | The order is: Alf, Terry and Jack GA Alf + Alf | thx... + | the reason I brought up the 'elf' issue is a 'dream' that I + | had... + | and I always brushed it off although it was so... + | REAL. I had just finished taking a shower and returned to... + | my room. Sitting at the end of the bed I noticed after a few... + | moments the presence of a very small person at the head of + | the... + | bed. Dressed in all white. Looking at me with his round eyes + | with... + | no white part to them, slighltly parted mouth with pure white... + | teeth. He had whispy whiskers, whitish/grey and grey hair... + | skin was like someone from India but skin of a baby!... + | I then heard a noise like someone was pushing an enevelope + | under my door... + | and when I turned around he had gone! It took quite a while + | tho... + | and I was able to observe him very well... + | even made sketches of it/him... + | ga + Ted | OK. Terry then Jack. GA Terry + Terry | About these little creatures, Shirley.... + | Could you see them if you looked directly at them... + | or only peripherally? ga + Shirley | ok... + | Yes I was looking directly at him and saw him clearly. ga + Terry | Okay. Thanks. ga + Ted | Ok.. + | Jack GA + Jack | ok... + | Shirley, are there any plans to have the ball analyzed. I would + | be very... + | interested in the results. ga + Bill | ? + Shirley | ok... + | we were just talking about that. We will try to find a lab. + | Maybe... + | Bert can help us on this. ga + Jack | ok... + | I think I would document and photgraph it (and maybe )... + | do some simple tests, just it case it gets "lost". ga + Shirley | Good points. ga + Ted | GA Bill + Bill | This seems to be a ? that comes up... + | over and over again. At the risk of getting my... + | "file" reactivated, shouldn't MUFON or CUFON or whoever... + | select a scientific volunteer panel to study various aspects... + | of precious physical evidence?? People you trust. GA + Shirley | ok... + | MUFON is actually in the process of doing that for exactly... + | that purpose. ga + Terry | ? + Ted | GA George + GEORGE FORD: thx... + | Shirley, concerning your abductions experiences... + | what do you think of Mr. Streibers works... + | since he is / was foremost a fiction writer.. of war storees, + | etc. ga + Shirley | ok... + | we know Mr. Streiber well... + | he is primarily a writer and has a good imagination.... + | he told us that when he couldn't make any more money in ufos,... + | he would go into something else. Evidently, channelling. ga + Ted | Did he say channeling or is that your conclusion? ga + GEORGE FORD: i had some trouble reading transformation, seemed so far + | from mainstrea. + | ga' + Terry | ? + Shirley | Transformation was stories from other people... + | based on letters he received. ga + Bill | ? + Ted | Did Strieber say he would go into channeling? ga + Shirley | He did not tell us... + | but he has told other people that his next thing... + GEORGE FORD: ? + Shirley | would probably be channelling. ga + Ted | Ok... + | Terry is next ga + Terry | Shirley, do y'all have an aquarium? + | ga + Shirley | No pets. ga + Terry | Okay. ga + GEORGE FORD: ? + Ted | Bill is next GA + Bill | Oh, sorry... + | I was going to ask if WS was being serious or funny. .. + | Of course, you can channel aliens and get 2 for 1 . That's all + | GA + Terry | ?sen 10 Well, she's been describing a snail egg... + Ted | Ok.. + | GA GEORGE + GEORGE FORD: thx... + | Shirley, what has been said to abductees concerning... + | prophecies, and general timing for ufos appearance to all? ga + Bill | ? + Shirley | ok... + | Most of the abductees that we deal with feel that... + | ufos will eventually be coming en masse. ga + Ted | GA BILL + Bill | En masse with hostility or to rescue us or as tourists??.. + | and, Is it common for abductees... + Alf | ! + Bill | to WANT to interact with the "others" and to... + | obsess years before thinking of this seriously about + | interacting with the,m? GA + | ga + Shirley | ok... + | first they are necessarily coming as hostile visitors, but + | they.... + | are coming for their own purposes. This comes up while people... + | are under hypnosis and the people are usually shoced when + | they... + | realize this. ga + Terry | ? + Ted | Ok.. GA ALF + Bill | FU? + Alf | perhaps if we could time their coming... + | just right we might be able to ... + | make a bundle at Wall St! ga + Ted | GA Terry + Shirley | NOT necessarily hostile (correction). ga + Terry | Shirley, do they have any apparent weaknesses that you've + | noticed? + | Physical or mental? ga + Shirley | ok... + | I think they fear our size and strength and that's why... + | they contol us. Perhaps WE are the hostile ones. ga + Alf | ! + Ted | Ok... + GEORGE FORD: ! + Ted | Bill is next witha (F)ollow (U)P [FU] - sorry about the .. + Bill | I've already asked it in private, but I never.. + | did really get an answer about my "obsession" with them.. + Ted | missunderstanding Bil) GA Bill + Bill | for years before I ever... + | considered hypnosis or seriously that I may have been abducted> + | GA + Ted | Ok GA Alf + Bill | Is that common, Shirley? GA + Alf | ok... + | perhaps indeed we are the hostile ones, but... + | size and strength never seemed to favor the Gorillas in + | Rwanda... + | and we might be talking here of a space faring + | civilization(s)... + | so much farther ahead of us than we of the Gorilla. ga + Ted | Good point Alf. ga + Shirley | True. ga + Ted | GA George + GEORGE FORD: thx... + Bill | ! + GEORGE FORD: we might be as in Zecharia sitchin's "Wars of Gods and + | Men"... + Terry | ? + GEORGE FORD: are we created, prodigy of these people, have got in fight + | with them in past? ga + Shirley | ok... + Ted | Comments George and Shirley? ga + Terry | ? + Shirley and George: ok... + | There is a possibility that they were involved with the ancient + | Sumarians.... + GEORGE FORD: ga + Shirley and George: or some other group... + | and contributed to our more modern evolution. ga + Ted | OK, GA Bill + Bill | As a child, I would go outside with a flashlight... + | shine it up at the stars... + | and say "I know there are people up there.... + | Come and visit me. At least let me see you. Fly by ONCE.!"... + | This was YEARS before seeing UFO books in school or any of this + | stuff. Is this... + | type of early conscious manifestation of a history usual ?? GA + Shirley and George: ok... + | Yes, this is common. I (Shirley) used to sit on the step when... + | I was five and look up at the sky and be angry... + | and ask why they brought me here. And said why don't you come... + | back and get me. ga + Bill | ? + Terry | ? + Ted | GA Terry + Terry | You think they fear our size and strength; what about.... + | our weapons? Have they expressed any interest in.... + | gun control? + | ga + Shirley and George: They're not afraid of out weapons. ga + Ted | GA Bill + Bill | But is an emotion of lonliness and longing for them... + | usual as well as fear and anger? And do you feel... + Terry | ? + Bill | you are genetically or socially or spiritually partially with + | them... + | and not with the remainder of Earthly humanity?? GA + Shirley | ok... + | Longing and loneliness is very common... + | at some point in your experiences you seem to get over.... + | your fear and anger and beging to grow spiritually. I don't... + | necessarily feel that I am "with them", however, I also feel + | that.... + | I don't belong here. I don't feel that I belong to the people... + | that I call my family. ga + Terry | ? + Ted | GA Terry + Terry | Do the aliens show any sign of having, recognizing or + | understandxing... + | a sense of humor? ga + Shirley | Yes... + | when I was 9 years old, during that experience, I said I... + | don't know what the word unique is when he used it. He patted... + | me on top of the head and chuckled and said that he would... + | teach me many things. ga + | They can also show anger. ga + Ted | Ok... + | Any other questions? ga + Bill | ? + Alf | ? + Ted | GA Bill + GEORGE FORD: ? + Bill | How many times have you been hypnotized in total by now? + Ted | GA Shirley + Bill | GA + Shirley | ok... + | about 15 times. ga + Ted | GA ALF + Alf | ok... + | you said, Shirley, that they can show anger... + | now that sounds very threatening! How have they... + | manifested anger? to you? others? reason? ga + Shirley | ok... + | the being got angry with me because he told me what to do ... + | to help George with a heart problem. It frightened me and I + | jerked... + | my hand away, and he grabbed my hand and put it back... + | on George's chest. And was angry with me and told me... + | that "I would do it". He told me to put my left hand on... + | Georges chest and it felt like an electric shock. That is + | what... + | frightened me. George was having chest pains and trouble + | breathing. ... + | The result was that George's problem eased up. ga + Ted | GA GEORGE + GEORGE FORD: ok... + | Shirley, the aliens responses to the abductees..commanding, + | anger... + | makes them seem god-like,,any abductee msessages concerning... + | religious tie-ins, to any earth relighions, reincarnations> ga + Ted | Any others? ga + Shirley | ok... + | The beings have told us that reincarnation... + | is a fact. As far as religion goes, the beings have told us... + | that we are all of one "supreme being". ga + GEORGE FORD: ? + Ted | Ok... + | It is getting late and I would like to thank... + | Shirley and George Cpyne for being our VERY special... + | guest tonight. Also I would like to thank Bert for... + | traveling to the Coynes' and acting as our local.. + | host in Michigan. Any final comment Shirley or George? ga + GEORGE FORD: send 4 that we are like an atom in some larger existence + | "dimension?" + Shirley and George: ok... + | It's been great. Thanks for having us on... + Terry | ! + Shirley and George: we would be happy to do it again in the future. ga + Ted | Ok.. + Bill | Thanks Shirley & George& Brt & Ted. See ya + Ted | Thank you! Anyone who might have other questions can direct + | them... + Alf | Thanks Shirley and George, Bert, Ted and others...bye + Shirley and George: Night all. + Ted | via EMAIL to myself or Bert or post them on the message board... + | Nite All! ga + Terry | Nite. + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1415.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1415.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e850b525 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1415.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +SUBJECT: TRUE MAGAZINE SAYS SAUCERS ARE FROM SPACE FILE: UFO1415 + + + +From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, December 27, 1949 + + "INTERPLANETARY SAUCERS" BOSH, SAYS AAF + +NEW YORK, Dec. 27 (UP) - True magazine said today that "informed +authorities" believed that "flying saucers" are "interplanetary +vehicles" manned by spacemen from a distanr civilization more +advanced than on earth. + +Concluding without reservation that "flying saucers are real," +True said it learned that "a rocket authority stationed at Wright +Field, Ohio has told ...(air force) personnel flatly that the +saucers are interplanetary and that no other conclusion is +possible." + +Wright Field officials, however, did not support this view. + +"The air force material command has been working very closely +with intelligence on the whole matter of flying saucers," a +spokesman said. + +"We probably have the most complete file on saucers anywhere." + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1416.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1416.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f67c9e9c --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1416.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +SUBJECT: GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTATION OF UFOs, A HISTORY FILE: UFO1416 + + + + + MUFONET-BBS NETWORK - MUTUAL UFO NETWORK + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + Contributed by: Georgia MUFON + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + HISTORY OF THE GOVERNMENT'S DOCUMENTATION OF UFO'S + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +The history of the official documentation of UFO's began in 1948 when the U.S. +Air Force created "Project Sign". The following year this was reorganized in +to "Project Grudge", and then into "Project Blue Book". + +The purpose of "Project Blue Book" was to investigate and evaluate UFO reports +within the United States and at it's stations and properties in other countries +with regard to any potential threat to national security, whether from foreign +powers or from outer space. Critics claimed that the project lacked a +scientifically qualified staff and that it was simply a "cover-up" operation +meant to reassure an alarmed public. + +"Project Blue Book" proved to be quite effective, however. During it's 18 +years of activity it allumulated more than 12,600 reported cases in its files, +almost all of which were eventually explained as mistaken natural phenomena or +as known aircraft. But 701 sightings remained classified as "unidentified". + +In 1966 the U.S. Air Force sponsored an independent, stepped-up investigation +of UFO's by a team of scientists from the University of Colorado headed by Dr. +Edward U. Condon, a prominent physicist and former head of the American +Association for the Advancement of Science. Of the 59 cases they selected for +serious study during the next two years, 23 eluded explanation. In his final +report, in 1969, Condon nevertheless concluded that a total of 21 years of UFO +study had added nothing to scientific knowledge and that "further extensive +study" was not warranted. He said, "it is safe to assume that no ILE +[intelligent life elsewhere] outside of our solar system has any possibility of +visiting earth in the next 10,000 years." To date, no one has determined the +basis for Condon's estimate. + +Following publication of the Condon report, the U.S. Air Force agreed that +UFO's posed no threat to national security and that there was no evidence the +sighted objects were of extra- terrestrial origin. "Project Blue Book" was +then terminated, and all of it's files were declassified. But the fact that +other documents on UFO's remained classified prompted a few private UFO +investigative groups to press for their release on the ground that the public +is entitled to know all. + +Even today many UFO buffs believe that the real investigation of UFO's was -- +and is -- being secretly conducted by high-level government personnel. But at +this time only private organizations are involved in serious research. Among +the membership groups the best known are The Mutual UFO network (MUFON), +founded in 1969; The National Investigation Committee on Aerial Phenomena +(NICAP), founded in 1956 in Washington, D.C.; and the Aerial Phenomena +research Organication (APRO), founded in 1952 by Jim and Coral Lorenzen. A +highly regarded organization is the Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS), founded in +1973 by astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who for years was scientific +consultant to "Project Blue Book". By 1982 CUFOS had ammased a computerized +list of 70,000 reported sightings from all over the world. About 80 percent of +these were easily explained and dismissed; the other 20 percent remain subject +to further explanation. + +Other countries, notably France, Britian, and Australia, also have civilian +organizations that collect and seriously investigate UFO reports. Although +awareness of the phenomenon is kept alive solely by private enterprise, reports +of unidentified flying objects from all over the world continue to accumulate +and further compound the most elusive mystery of our time. + +Some information has been released through lawsuits under the Freedom of +Information Act, but most experts agree the government is still suppressing +most of what it knows. Classified documents buried in musty government files +show the government was aware of UFOs patrolling our skies as early as 1942. + +The documents, heavily edited, deal with reports compiled by the U.S. Air Force +and its Office of Scientific Investigation (OSI), the FBI, the CIA, the +National Security Agency and at least a dozen government-financed hush-hush +units. + +Most of the documents support independent investigations made over the years by +civilian researchers into sightings and close encounters. "We know there are +more detailed and substantive reports of sighting and encounters buried in +secret government files that have not been released on the grounds that they +constitute a risk to the national security of the United States," says Gerald +Inserra, a physicist and former NASA employee. + +Among other things, the documents hint of a secret agreement between the U.S., +Britian, France, Germany, Russia and other nations to keep confirmation of UFO +sightings and other incidents relating to UFOs secret from the public. + +Despite the official government position, first formalized with the U.S. Air +Force's "Project Blue Book", that UFOs are hallucinations and UFO researchers +are little more than kooks, several of the secret documents clearly show the +government not only believes UFOs are real, but that they might pose a threat +to our security. + +The late J. Edgar Hoover ordered FBI agents to investigate all UFO reports +because he feared they might be hoaxes instigated by the Russians to undermine +American morale. Later memos from Hoover suggested he was shifting toward the +view of the National Security Agency, which warned that the United States +should "prepare itself for an invasion from outer space." + +=END= +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1417.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1417.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2af69836 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1417.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@ +SUBJECT: DON ECKER HISTORY FILE: UFO1417 + + + + +Message number 1859 in "INFO.PARANET" +Date: 03-26-90 16:37 +From: Michael Corbin +To: All +Subj: Director of Security + + EID:1068 1ace43ba + MSGID: 1:104/428 3d10841d +ParaNet is pleased to announce the apppointment of Don Ecker as Director of +Network Security. ParaNet has experienced phenomenal growth and the need for +this has become very apparent. Don, sysop of ParaNet Alpha-Delta, has been +appointed Director of ParaNet Network Security. Ecker is a veteran of Viet +Nam, having served 26 months in SouthEast Asia with Special Operations. Upon +returning to the States, he returned to college and after a year at school +applied to the municipal Police Department and was accepted. Leaving after a +year, he rejoined the private sector and entered business in the world of +finance. After several years he returned to police work, and after serving as +a uniformed officer was made a detective, and became a criminal investigator. +In 1982 he first became aware of the mutilation phenomenon when called upon +to investigate several cattle mutilations. While involved in a SWAT TEAM +exercise in 1986, he was wounded which led to his medical retirement. While +recuperating he became interested again in the UFO enigma, and was soon +convinced that the best way to investigate it was to treat the subject like a +criminal investigation. Joining MUFON, he was asked to serve as a State +Section Director and Investigator. Learning of ParaNet in 1987, he joined as +an assistant sysop with the old ParaNet RHO. During additional investigations +of cattle mutilations occurring in Idaho, the first of a number of cases of +what appeared to be "human mutilations" came to his attention and resulted in +investigations into this bizarre area of research. Ecker has written articles +for UFO Magazine, reported news and written book reviews. He spoke on his +research in mutilations at the 1989 MUFON Conference, has lectured on the +subject before numerous organizations, and appeared on both radio and +television programs speaking on the phenomenon. Security is a vital concern +for any type of network such as ours. I ask you to extend a warm welcome to +Don. +Michael Corbin +Administrator + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1418.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1418.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0375d2d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1418.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,174 @@ +SUBJECT: SECRETS OF DREAMLAND FILE: UFO1418 + + + + +Date: 12-28-89 00:40 +From: Michael Corbin +To: All +Subj: The Secrets of Dreamland + +======================================================== +(C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service +All Rights Reserved unless copyrighted by Author. +======================================================== +Reprinted with exclusive permission to ParaNet Information +Service. +PROBING THE SECRETS OF NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE +By Steve Douglass + If you are ever on Highway 6, just outside of the little +town of Tonopah, Nevada, and you can brave the heat, the +rattlesnakes, and the isolation of the desert, get out of your +car and wait. If you are patient enough you just might be amazed +by what you'll see. + At first you'll only hear it, a high-pitched whining sound +in the distance. Risking eye damage, you squint into the desert +glare trying to locate the source of the sound. Suddenly you'll +see it. It's an ominous-looking aircraft, perfectly flat on the +bottom, pyramidal on the top. + Roaring across the high desert with its twin tail and swept +back wings, it looks like a large black swallow. As it gets +closer, you'll feel the urge to duck down among the lizards and +the cacti. Such action is meaningless, though, for if you can +see it, it can see you. So just stand and watch the Nighthawk go +through its paces. + Since the beginning of the year, the F-117A Nighthawk +stealth fighter has been engaged in daylight training missions +from its secret base in Nevada. Still considered off limits to +the press and public, the security forces at the base take a dim +view of prying eyes. However, once in a while the Nighthawk must +leave its protective nest. + It is on these rare occasions, when the Nighthawk is not +surrounded by razor wire, patrolling dogs or security teams, that +is when you might catch the F-117A strutting its stuff. + The secret Tonopah base is part of the Nellis Air Force Base +military operations area. This secret range, which covers a +large portion of south central Nevada, is the home of the Air +Force's top secret proving grounds. Edwards Air Force Base was +once the premier testing center but now is considered too public +to test top secret stealth aircraft. The F-117 base on the +northwest corner of Nellis is remote and removed from all but the +most determined. + The F-117A Nighthawk is the official name of the stealth +fighter bu those who fly it have nicknamed it "The Wobbly +Goblin." At slow speeds, the fighter is apparently hard to +handle, hence, the odd title. Another term for the aircraft is +"the sacred airplane" because when people see it for the first +time they usually remark "Oh my God!" + A total of 49 are thought to be based on the Tonopah range, +also known as Mellon Strip. The secret base, located in Area 30 +on the Nellis range, consists of 72 nuclear hardened, specially +built hangers for these secret aircraft. + The pilots who fly the F-117 are members of a new elite +unit, the 445th Tactical Group. Most of the pilots first flew F- +111 Aardvarks or have Wild Weasel experience. The special unit, +known as "Team One-Furtim Vigilans" (vigilant by stealth) became +operational in 1983. + Becuase of the secret nature of their missions, the pilots +are not allowed to acknowledge to civilian air traffic +controllers what type of craft they are flying. If asked, they +are to say they are an A-7 Corsair. + Team One squadron is not the only squadron flying strange- +looking aircraft on the Tonopah range. The 447th test and +evaluation squadron, the Red Eagles, is based there as well. The +Red Eagles fly authentic Soviet fighters. Captured in +Afghanistan and turned over to the U.S., Mig 17s, 19s, 21s, 23s, +25s, 27s and Sukhoi Su20 Fighters are flown regularly in Nellis' +Red Flag war games. + Occuring almost every eight weeks, the Red Flag exercises +are conducted in much the same way as the Navy's Top Gun school +is used to train USAF pilots in dissimilar air combat tactics. +What better way to train than against real Soviet fighters? To +add to the realism, the Nellis range even is dotted with real +Soviet air defense radars and SAMS (surface to air missiles) to +give training pilots the feel of the real thing. + There is yet another secret base located in the middle of +Nellis. Groom Lake, in an area called Dreamland, is known to be +the test base of the mysterious Aurora and the F-19 stealth +fighter. The Aurora, the stealth replacement for the SR-71 +Blackbird and the F-19, the stealth replacement for the F-15 +Eagle, is said to be flying from the Watertown Strip. + Teh Air Force has reportedly been testing the two top secret +aircraft in Dreamland, Area 51, since 1980. (The SR-71 Blackbird +was test flown in complete secrecy.) Other aircraft likely to be +test flown from Dreamland in the near future are prototypes for +the ATF (Advanced Tactical Fighter), the Phalanx Dragon, a +stealth helicopter killer, and the A-12 (Navy Advanced Tactical +Aircraft), a replacement for the A-6 intruder. + Although the bulk of stealth aircraft operations seem to be +centered around Nevada, it is said that stealth aircraft have +been seen at other bases as well. Last April the USAF said the +F-117A would be used at bases nationwide to help integrate thge +stealth technology within the rest of the Air Force inventory. +The F-117A has been seen flying near Yuma, Arizona; Edwards AFB +in Calfiornia, and Kadena AFB in Okinawa. + Recently it was rumored that F-117s are being stationed at +the recently opened Roswell Air Force Base in New Mexico. The +Roswell strip was constructed originally for heavy bombers during +WWII and Vietnam but closed in the late sixties. Residents of th +area report that strange aircraft are once again slying out of +the base. The White Sands missile range is not far from Roswell +and the F-117A may be using the range to test the stealth cruise +missile, General Dynamics AGM-129. + Another black aircraft program by General Dynamics known +only as Project 100 is even more secret ahtn all other stealth +programs. Little is known about the project except that it is +thought to be test flying out of Holliman AFB near Alamagordo, +New Mexico, and only at night. A military radio net has been +heard on various frequencies in the Holloman area (see frequency +list) and it may be the testing of the Project 100 aircraft. + MONITORING + Trying to monitor the secret air force is nearly as hard as +catching a glimpse of them. Best bets are the HF and UHF +frequencies of the flight test bases and aircraft manufacturers. +Also, a good place to monitor would be SAC and TAC frequencies. +Another good place to listen is air traffic control centers near +test areas. + So get cracking, heat up your set, and maybe you'll be the +first to monitor the top secret Aurora and F-19! + FREQUENCIES + HOLLOMAN AFB, ALAMAGORDO, NEW MEXICO +Approach 324.3 MHz UHF +Departure 255.9 MHz UHF + Holloman flight test net/White Sands +Primary 260.8 MHz UHF +Secondary 264.9 MHz UHF + Other UHF frequencies monitored +397.9, 353.6, 364.2, 376.1, 189.4, and 251.1 +HF link 9.023 MHz USB +SATCOM links mentioned 262.925 MHz uplink; 297.525 downlink +Call signs heard: Sierra Papa, Sierra Pete, Ringmaster, +Battlestaff, Guardian Papa, Dark Star, Dark Star Oscar + ROSWELL AIR FIELD, NEW MEXICO +Approach 239.6 MHz UHF +Tower 272.7 MHz UHF + Military Net +Primary 305.6 MHz UHF +Secondary 397.9 MHz UHF + Other frequencies monitored +259.2, 305.6, 348.7 + NELLIS AFB, NEVADA +Approach 279.7 MHz UHF +Tower 324.3 MHz UHF +Ground control 275.8 MHz UHF +Clearance Delivery 289.4 MHz UHF +ATIS 270.1 MHz UHF + Nellis Military Operations Area +Dreamland base 255.8 MHz UHF +Sally corridor 343.0 MHz UHF +Groom Lake approach 361.3 MHz UHF +Watertown Strip approach 297.65 MHz UHF + EDWARDS AFB, CALIFORNIA +Tower 269.9 MHz UHF +Edwards command post + (Conform) 304.0 MHz UHF +Edwards VHF ground + control 121.8 Mhz UHF +Edwards approach 318.1 MHz UHF +================================================================= + + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1419.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1419.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..70a0a141 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1419.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +SUBJECT: EMP TESTING IN CHESAPEAKE BAY AREA FILE: UFO1419 + + + +Annapolis Bay Bridge Sightings + +EMP REPORT + +Re: Washington Post + Sunday, May 15, 1988 + Page A-19 + by George C. Wilson (Staff Writer) + +PENTAGON TO CURTAIL ELECTOMAGNETIC TESTS +(Environmental Impact Study Required for Experiments +Involving a Type of Radiation) + + +SPECIAL REPORT: WFBR 1300 AM - BOB OECHSLER + + We've been reporting our investigations over the past several +weeks into the activities surrounding the Bay Bridge UFO Sightings +in Annapolis and our inquiries into the possible interest these +UFO's might have in this area. + + Our theory was that perhaps they may have more than a +passing interest in the EMP tests (electromagnetic pulse) that we +discovered were being conducted in the area. It was reported +that MORE THAN A MILLION FISH WERE KILLED in the Chesapeake +Bay during one of these tests early this year. We reported that +a suit had been filed in federal court against the government to +stop the testing. Discussions with officials at EPA resulted in a plea +of ignorance. An official with the Navy indicated that the EMP +tests were probably the result of degaussing of ships in the Bay. + + Today in the Washington Post it was announced that The Defense +Department, under a legal agreement reached Friday night, must +stop or moderate its electromagnetic pulse experiments at +laboratories in Maryland, Virginia, Alabama and New Mexico +until the government determines whether the energy is harming +people and wildlife. + + The article goes on to say that electromagnetic pulse (EMP) +is one type of radiation generated by nuclear explosions. The +Pentagon has been simulating EMP to determine how to protect +the circuitry in its planes, tanks and ships from being disabled +by it. The Soviet Union, according to duscussions with the Pentagon, +is far along on a "zap gun" that would use EMP radiation to kill +troops and disable vehicles, and the Pentagon is interested in +developing a similar weapon. + + The Justice Department, representing the Pentagon, reached the +agreement this weekend with the Foundation on Economic Trends, +an environmental group that sued on the grounds that the +experiments were proceeding without the government first assessing +their potential harm. The foundation had taken steps to question +two employees of a Woodbridge, Virginial laboratory constructing +EMP generators, about their environmental concerns and the +alleged suppression of documents when the Justice Department +suddenly decided to settle the case. + + The settlement states that the Navy's EMP facilities at Patuxent, +Maryland Naval Air Station must be operated at low voltage, not +more than one kilovolt per meter, until the environmental risks +are assessed. AND the Navy's Empress I EMP simulator in the +middle of the Chesapeake Bay may not be operated at all until +the impact of its pulses is assessed. The projected Empress II +pulse generator can not be built unless the Pentagon first +files an environmental impact statement. + + What impact will this have on UFO activity over these areas? +Only time will tell. + +Bob Oechsler - UFO Reports - WFBR 1300 + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1420.ufo b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1420.ufo new file mode 100644 index 00000000..d986c7a6 --- /dev/null +++ b/textfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/1000/1420.ufo @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +SUBJECT: UFO DEFINATION FILE: UFO1420 + + + +unidentified flying object +-------------------------------- + +An unidentified flying object (UFO) is an unusual aerial or potentially +airborne object that cannot be readily identified even after expert analysis of +the available data in the report of the object. Approximately 90% of raw UFO +reports are interpreted as misperceptions of conventional objects, hoaxes, or +hallucinations. The remaining 10% constitute the UFO enigma. The date of the +earliest UFO sighting is unknown. Some UFO researchers believe that there were +UFO sightings in ancient times. The evidence for such sightings, however, is +scanty and therefore purely speculative. Most UFO researchers date the +beginning of the UFO phenomenon with the sighting of dirigiblelike "mystery +airships" over the United States during 1896-97. The next significant group of +reports came during World War II from Allied and Axis pilots who reported +seeing strange metallike objects, which they called "foo fighters," in +controlled flight around their planes. In 1946 people in Europe, particularly +Scandinavia, reported large-scale sightings of silent "ghost rockets." None of +these phenomena has been satisfactorily explained. + +The UFO phenomenon entered public consciousness on June 24, 1947, when private +pilot Kenneth Arnold reported sighting nine circular objects flying across his +airplane's path in the skies over the state of Washington. He described their +movements as being like "saucers skipping over water" and the term flying +saucer was born. + +Since 1947 there have been UFO sightings in nearly every country. Occasionally +the number of sightings rapidly increases and a UFO wave ensues. For instance, +UFO waves occurred in France and Italy in 1954, in New Guinea in 1958, and in +the USSR in 1967. In the United States, waves occurred in 1947, 1952, 1957, +1965-67, and 1973. UFO researchers have been unable to predict or explain UFO +waves. Attempts to link them to media publicity about UFOs, hysterical +contagion, or "societal stress" have proved unsuccessful. Although intensive +publicity has prompted people to report sightings they had previously made, +such publicity is not considered responsible for new reports. + +The number of UFO sightings is great. In 1973 a Gallup poll indicated that 11 +percent of the adult population in the United States had seen what they thought +was a UFO. So far more than 50,000 worldwide sighting reports have been +computerized. A study of these reports suggests that UFO sightings are random, +and no pattern of UFO witnesses has been found. Witnesses cut across economic, +class, racial, and educational lines. A greater percentage of reports, however, +have come from people living in rural areas than from those living in urban +areas. The reasons for this disparity are unknown. + +Witnesses report a great variety of sizes and shapes of UFOs, including +amorphous and changing-shape objects. The classic "two bowls joined at the rim" +shape is reported often, but reports of objects shaped like cigars, squares, +balls, triangles, rings, and hats are also common. + +The majority of reports are of objects seen at great distance, but reports of +close observations also exist. Some of the most intriguing reports are of +objects seen on or near the ground. Often the person claims that the object +left a residue or mark on the ground. Such a sighting is called a "trace case." +Sometimes the object is claimed to have had a physical effect on an electrical +or mechanical device, causing television interference or automobile engines to +stall. + +Claims of witnessing the occupants of a UFO have come from sober, reputable, +reliable people. These reports must, however, be separated from those of the +infamous "contactees," who in the 1950s claimed ongoing contact with "space +brothers" who often gave them flying-saucer "rides" to other planets. UFO +researchers regard contactee claims as spurious. + +The U.S. Air Force attempted to study the UFO phenomenon from 1948 to 1969 +through its Project Blue Book. After collecting reports for 21 years, it +concluded that UFOs did not represent a threat to the national security, and it +could find no evidence that UFOs were of extraterrestrial origin. In 1953, +however, the Central Intelligence Agency suggested that the USSR might be able +to use "flying-saucer hysteria" as a psychological warfare weapon against the +United States. Therefore, from 1953 to 1969, the U.S. Air Force was concerned +mainly with the incidence of UFO reports and never seriously considered the +idea that UFOs per se might represent anomalous or unique phenomena. + +Other institutions and scientists have also confronted the phenomenon. A 1953 +study by the Battelle Memorial Institute resulted in inconclusive findings. +From 1966 to 1969 the University of Colorado conducted an extensive study of +UFOs. + +The project director, physicist Edward U. Condon, concluded that UFOs did not +represent a threat to the national security and were not anomalous; several of +the staff scientists, however, strongly disagreed with his conclusions. In +recent years scientific interest in the subject has grown, but adequate funding +for another scientific inquiry has not yet materialized. Scientists and +academicians have used their own time and funds to study UFOs, but progress has +been slow and difficult. Until a systematic, impartial, and long-term study of +the problem can be developed, UFOs are likely to remain one of the most +puzzling mysteries of our times. DAVID M. JACOBS + +Bibliography: Hendry, Allan, The UFO Handbook (1979); Hynek, J. Allen, The UFO +Experience: A Scientific Inquiry (1972); Jacobs, David M., The UFO Controversy +in America (1975); Sagan, Carl, and Page, Thornton, eds., UFOs: A Scientific +Debate (1973). + + + ********************************************** + * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * + ********************************************** \ No newline at end of file