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APPLE II DEVELOPMENT FORUM CONFERENCE LOG
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February 14, 1989 10:00 p.m. Eastern time
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Topic: Apple II Assembly Language
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Forum Leader: James Luther (AFL Jim)
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AFL Jim Do you all want protocol or can you guys stay on the subject? :)
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Chaos 89 hi Dan
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AFA Parik no protocol.
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Dan Burton Hi there
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DennisDoms Yes :)
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AFC DaveP sounds like a threat
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JSchober NO! protocol... :)
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AFL Marty You know us, Jim :)
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AFA Parik Just say no...
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AFL Jim Is it Dan or Doug?
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AFA Gary J Yes to protocol, Dennis?
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Dave Lyons I vote no protocol, I think.
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Republicn no protocal
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AFA Gary J I think?? :)
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Dan Burton Its Dan Doug will be here later I think
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AFL Marty You do?
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AFA Parik therefore he assembles...
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AFL Marty What's the occasion? :)
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Dave Lyons (Was this really a vote, or have you already decided?) (Gary, I
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reserve the
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Dave Lyons right to be sorry for my vote later.)
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JSchober hehehe
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AFA Gary J :)
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AFC DaveP (I'm glad all this is going on...it'll be the only part I
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understand)
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AFA Gary J I like that, Dave.
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AFL Jim Let's skip the protocol then. Tonight's scheduled topic is
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Assembly Language
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AFL Jim Anyone want to start off with a question?
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AFC DaveP this isn't PC??
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AFL Marty hahahahahaha
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Republicn How can I do a Bload from Prodos 8? Can it be done easily?
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JSchober In assembly, Republican? MLI READ calls... (OPEN, READ, CLOSE
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...)
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AFL Jim The same way you did under DOS 3.3, except some parts of memory
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are protected.
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Guy Rice Huh? The same way as DOS 3.3? I don't think so...
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AFA Parik Does anyone know what the various annunciators do on the GS?
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AFA Gary J I think he means in assembly.
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Republicn It isn't any easier in Prodos then it is in DOS 3.3?
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JSchober They annunciate.
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AFA Parik enunciate...
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AFL Jim From BASIC that is. You don't BLOAD from assembly...
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Guy Rice It's a LOT easier in ProDOS...
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JSchober Well, the MLI is far easier than the File Manager is, but the
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basic idea is the
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Dave Lyons Are you using BASIC.SYSTEM, Republicn?
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JSchober same...
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JSchober (GMTA Guy)
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Republicn Dave, yes.
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Dave Lyons And you want your BASIC program to do a BLOAD, then?
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Matt DTS Back (did I miss anything?)
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Republicn No, I want to do a Bload from assembly.
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Mac III sounds like you missed a lot
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AFA Parik We gossiped about you.
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JSchober Republican... then we were right in the first place. You execute
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an MLI OPEN
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JSchober call, then READ, then CLOSE. Just gotta make sure that you're not
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loading on
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JSchober top of memory reserved by ProDOS. Do you have a book that
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indicates the MLI
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Republicn I need the Bload from assmebly because the program is for a //e
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and is going to
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JSchober command codes/parameters/etc? (ie., Beneath Apple ProDOS, Apple
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ProDOS for
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Republicn use the Auxiliary memory to store data, and I am told that once
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you put stuff
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JSchober Programmers, etc...)
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Republicn in auxiliary that BASIC is written over, so the Bload must be from
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assembly.
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Dave Lyons It's true that you can load stuff only into the main 64K using
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ProDOS; you'll
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Republicn No, I don't. All the books I have are //gs assembly and this
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program is on a
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Republicn //e.
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Dave Lyons have to have an assembly language routine to copy the data to
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auxiliary memroy,
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Dave Lyons but you are free to BLOAD it from BASIC if you want
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(?CHR$(4);"BLOAD xxxxx" and
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Dave Lyons then CALL a machine language routine to copy the data to aux
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mem).
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Republicn To move it to Auxiliary, I was going to use the AUXMOVE routine
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and I was told
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JSchober Oh. Well, you'll really want to get some book on Advanced
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ProDOS...
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Republicn that that routine wrote over BASIC.
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Republicn I know I will.
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Dave Lyons AUXMOVE does not write over BASIC; I don't know whether you'll be
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able to CALL
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Republicn So I could Bload data from Basic, move it to Auxiliary with an
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assembly routine
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Dave Lyons it directly without trouble or not.
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Republicn and then have the BASIC program then Bload more data ??
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Dave Lyons Yup, sounds like a good plan. You can even use the ,B and ,L
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parameters on
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Republicn That was what I was going to do, but if AUXMOVE wrote over BASIC
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it wouldn't
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Republicn have worked. Glad I don't have to worry about that. Thanks a lot
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for the help
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Dave Lyons the BLOAD to load one piece of a file at a time, if it's too big
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to load all
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Dave Lyons at once (into your available main memory space).
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DaviesDoug Hi all
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Republicn Each file isn't that big, it's just that there are a lot of
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them.
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AFL Jim Hi Doug
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Mac III basic probably uses it so you can't access it from Basic...
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Mac III but it seems likely that Basic would reside there... since Auxmove
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lives in
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Mac III both aux and main memory
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Dave Lyons Uses _what_, Mac III?
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Dave Lyons AUXMOVE lives in ROM; so does Applesoft.
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Mac III the aux move routine
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Mac III so does Basic map it out?
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Dave Lyons Applesoft doesn't use AUXMOVE. (Applesoft only knows about the
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1st 64K.)
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Republicn That's why this program is being moved to assembly. It was too
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slow and we
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Mac III ok makes sense
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Republicn couldn't give it a lot of data.
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AFL Jim Dead air...
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AFL Jim :)
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Republicn Does AUXMOVE use the area of RAM where BASIC stores the program?
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Matt DTS Anyone up for pizza?
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Mac III well... at least I showed everyone that they didn't have to be an
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expert to
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AFA Parik w/o anchovies...
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Mac III talk in here :)
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JSchober Yeah, Matt!! Pepperoni, double cheese, please...
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AFL Scott <----Ham, too!
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AFA Parik Do the annunciators do anything special on the GS? I vaguely
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remember a
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Dave HDS Your buying?
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AFL Jim It can, Repub..
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AFA Parik certain combination doing something "neat"...
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Matt DTS My what?
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Dave Lyons AUXMOVE won't screw up your program unless the parameters you feed
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it tell it
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Mac III Cupid and AppleLink?
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Dave Lyons to copy something over it.
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JSchober LOL... it wasn't an ADVERTISEMENT wyrm... amazing...
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Republicn Thanks. That answered that.
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Dave Lyons Parik, I think at least _one_ of them does something: the one for
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enabling
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AFL Jim Only if you're moving something from Aux Memory to the area where
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your BASIC
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AFL Jim program is.
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Dave Lyons double-hires graphics, just like the GS. On the IIc one is used
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for the
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Dave Lyons mouse or something.
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AFL Jim Cupid just got hit by a steam roller...
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AFA Parik shucks, I thought one of them would install a 16 megahertz speedup
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card...
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AFL Marty who's cupid? :)
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Republicn Where can I get information about what Tools were added and
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modified from
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Republicn Prodo 16 to GS/OS?
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Matt DTS A really nifty and authoritative-looking description of
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AUXMOVE...
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Mac III GSOS reference manual?
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Matt DTS ...is on page 260 of the IIgs Firmware Reference Manual.
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AFL Jim What is the story on the Lisa assembler? Brian doesn't come over
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here often, so
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Dave Lyons From APDA (1-800-282-APDA) buy the Toolbox Reference Update, Beta
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draft, and
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AFL Jim I haven't kept up with it.
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Dave Lyons the GS/OS reference manual, vols I and II.
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Matt DTS If you want changes done for System Disk 4.0, you need the 4.0
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Release Notes...
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Matt DTS ...which APDA sends with the 4.0 disks that you can buy from
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them.
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Dave Lyons (Yeah, that too.)
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DwightW1 side question: why does my modem keep disconnecting me from the
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service?
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Matt DTS The other documents are things you Should Have, also.
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AFA Gary J Dwight - you must be on Telenet. I had to switch to Tymenet
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lately.
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Matt DTS Dwight: It doesn't like you. MCI is that way with me.
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AFL Jim Dwight, Bad phone line? Flakey modem?
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Republicn Thanks again. I'm just getting started with assembly and this has
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helped a lot
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DwightW1 true, will swtich also....thanks
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Republicn I got disconnected earlier tonight, but I can't switch to Tymnet,
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Telenet is
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Republicn the only one in my city that does 2400.
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AFA Gary J I had real bad problems (7 times in one night). I haven't died
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since I
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AFL Jim Hi Bill
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AFA Gary J switched.
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BillP Hiya Jim! Topic still assm tonight?
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AFL Jim BTW: Gary has finished uploading the new technotes into a
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background library
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DaviesDoug Anyone ever had the problem of the Super-hires screen really
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screwing....
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AFL Jim area. As soon as Kent moves them over in the main libraries,
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you'll be able to
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DaviesDoug up. like pixels shifted around and glitching
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AFL Jim download them as a set or as individual files.
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AFA Parik No...
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JSchober Great! :)
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DaviesDoug I am thinking it is my CMS drive
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Matt DTS I have at home, but not at work. I power down for a while and it
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goes away.
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Dave Lyons Sounds like a software problem to me, Doug.
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AFA Parik Have you run Mr. Fixit through it?
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Republicn no
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JSchober How did the CMS drive and the SHR screen get connected?? %)
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CptnCrunch Anyone out there have a fully disassembled and commented Applesoft
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Basic?
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AFL Jim Sounds like software or bad RAM.
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Dave Lyons (Like a BlockMove accidentally containing the screen....)
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AFA Parik Merlin 8/16 comes with AppleSoft fully commented &
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disassembled...
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DaviesDoug don't know, but I have to turn my CMS off before the screen will
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clear back
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Dan Burton It looks like the screens mapping screws up
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DaviesDoug up after turning my machine off four about 5 minutes
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DaviesDoug NO....pixels flicker and it's like all the pixels get shifted but
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one
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DaviesDoug real weird
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Matt DTS Let me guess - vertical lines the entire screen tall that are
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placed wrong?
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CptnCrunch I don't have all the merlin files. That's what I'm lookig for...
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DaviesDoug Yep, MATT
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DaviesDoug other things too
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AFA Parik ah wait, I've had that problem running Applelink before...
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Matt DTS It's not your CMS - I have a Sider and the same thing happens
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occasionally.
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JSchober (I want to know how programs can draw on the GS' border in SHR
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mode...
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JSchober definitely drawing on the BORDER... weird...)
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AFA Parik Its e-z Joe.
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Matt DTS Joey: Go away. Far away. Now.
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JSchober LOL Matt... oh, Parik??
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AFA Parik One easy way is to switch during scan line interrupts...
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Matt DTS CptnCrunch: "Don't have all the Merlin files?" You bought a
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defective copy?
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AFA Parik You can also use the VERCNT counter ($E0C02E) as documented in one
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of Matt's
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Dave HDS Yeah...just reload the background color register quick...
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JSchober To switch WHAT?? I always thought the border wasn't mapped to SHR
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coords...
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AFL Marty How do you not have all the Merlin files?
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AFA Parik technotes. A demo I'll be releasiing soon changes the screen text
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color when
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AFA Parik you do a open-apple-reset and prints neat messages :).
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AFA Parik (rapidly that is, it gives a hue-colored effect. Looks
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impressive)
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CptnCrunch Well, I didn't exactly "Buy" it. I'm "Borrowing" it.
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DaviesDoug :)
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AFA Parik Its not Joe, you change $E0C034, lower nibble.
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BillP Buy it, its well worth the cost
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AFA Parik When you change it at certain intervals, only part of the screen
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change colors.
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AFL Jim and we'll talk to you then :)
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DaviesDoug just DON't change the high nibble....it's disasterous
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CptnCrunch Yeah, I know...
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AFA Parik ie, if you change when the thing is on line 60 to green, the top
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will be black
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Dave HDS Very
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Dave Lyons If "borrowing" means you have all documentation and all the
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owner's copies of
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JSchober Oh, I see what you're saying!! Right, right, gotcha... so the
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only catch to
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Dave Lyons the software, that's okay. If and only if.
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AFA Parik and the bottom green. Nice effects. A guy I know in France makes
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a bouncing
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AFA Parik roller effect. neat!
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JSchober that is that the left and right sides must be identical on each
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screen line,
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JSchober eh?
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JSchober (a bouncing WHAT??)
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AFA Parik (those things mother used to whack you with :)
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JSchober LOL... on the BORDER??
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AFA Parik Yup. He changes at various intervals, ie, change at 60 and
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rechange at 80 so
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AFA Parik you get a 20 line roller, and then increment so at next pass
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change at 62 and
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AFA Parik at 82...neat.
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AFA Gary J Sounds pretty wild. :)
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Republicn I gotta run. Bye all.
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DaviesDoug Dans done this (the rolling effect) looks neat
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JSchober OIC... hehehee... neat trick. I gotta play with that, some.
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(MUCH to Matt's
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AFA Gary J Bye, Repub.
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BillP I'd like to get hold of the demo that was playing in the APDA
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booth at the last
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JSchober annoyance... >:)
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BillP Applefest
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AFA Gary J Right, Bill :)
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AFA Parik You and the rest of the world...hehehe
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JSchober What was that, Bill, for us poor, unfortunate folk who didn't
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go?
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Matt DTS Playing with the border is just fine. But I've still not heard
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the end...
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AFL Jim Me too....
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Matt DTS ...from people who *insist* there's some way to make QuickDraw
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draw on the...
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Matt DTS ...border and Apple just won't tell them. <sigh>
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AFA Parik overscan...hehehe
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DaviesDoug yah right
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JSchober LOL Matt... yeah, overscan, indeed!! (Would be a nice touch,
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y'know...)
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Dave HDS You gotta be kidding, Matt...heh...
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BillP I wouldn't suspect people would use Quickdraw to do it
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Dave Lyons (Are there a lot of people like that, Matt, or just a few
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insistent ones?)
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Dave HDS Are they certified or certifiable???
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Matt DTS just a few
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AFL Jim The few, the insistent, the ugly...
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JSchober :)
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AFA Parik Aha, another question. When I was scanning for the oa-reset
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semivector, I
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AFA Gary J :)
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AFA Parik saw that the VBL vector returns with a RTL when not in QD. When
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in Quickdraw,
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AFA Parik does QD replace this? Is this vector replaced with a routine
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that does
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AFA Parik something at any other time? if so, would this effect a program
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that is using
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Dave Lyons Parik, are you sure you mean the VBL vector, not the scanline
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vector or
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AFA Parik the retrace period t draw?
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Dave Lyons something? Gimme it in hex if you have it. What System Disk,
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too?
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AFL Marty (what the h*ll's a semivector?)
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AFA Parik The VBL vector.
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BillP an 18 wheeled vector
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JSchober (A vector that may or may not exist, Marty... :-)
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Matt DTS <raspberry>
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AFA Parik $E1/0030-33. Jumps to a $FF area and RTLs in there with carry
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clear I believe.
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AFA Gary J LOL, Bill! :)
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Dave Lyons VBL points to the HeartBeat task manager, _not_ to an RTL.
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Dave HDS Messing about in the //gs e1 vectors???
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AFL Marty (thanks Bill :)
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BillP I got a good question...
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Dave HDS Isn;t that an Apple NO NO ???
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Matt DTS Sort of. Maybe. But maybe not.
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AFL Marty Good questions are Apple no no's?
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BillP In the package we got with Merlin 8/16...(we bought it) was an add
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for a card
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DaviesDoug make sure you have appletalk interrupts off to do the border
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stuff.....
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AFA Gary J It's all right to look, but not to touch, Dave.
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BillP that claims to be a hardware debugger for 8 and 16 bit mode....
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DaviesDoug otherwise it ruins the timing
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BillP Does anyone have one or know anthing about it?
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Matt DTS We prefer people to use GetVector and SetVector to look at
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vectors...
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Matt DTS ...but there are some in the Firmware Reference which you can't.
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Dave HDS I'm sure you do...never know when those will be moved...
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AFA Gary J Who was the manufacturer, Bill?
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AFL Jim What's the name of it, Bill?
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Matt DTS Well, there went Dave. Bye now, Dave. Come back sometime.
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BillP I forgot now... I'll post a question tomorrow about it in Lets
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Discuss
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AFA Gary J Was it ProDev?
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DaviesDoug hi dave
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BillP I'd be happy to hear of any hardware debugger that anyone know of
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actually. :)
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JSchober Gee, Dave, welcome to AII Development!
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AFA Parik Oh whoops, Dave you're right. It DOES something. So does this
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steal away
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Matt DTS There he is.
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Dave Lyons Dang. Fatal Error 0911 when I tried to go into Nifty List. :(
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BillP yes, It was ProDev
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JSchober (and you came back that quickly??)
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AFA Parik from the retrace period?
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DaviesDoug hmmmm....nifty list during a conference?
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AFA Parik (Dave's got Nifty List! :)
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BillP know anything about it?
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DaviesDoug that could be deadly :)
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Matt DTS "Dr., it hurts when I do this." "Well, don't do that." <ducking>
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AFA Gary J I have a pamphlet on that, Bill (from last year!)
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JSchober Why not, Doug?
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DaviesDoug sort of like driving drunk
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Dave Lyons No, I was gone about 2 minutes, but you guys couldn't tell from
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the Hi/Bye
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Dave Lyons line.
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DennisDoms (I bought a System Saver IIgs...no more "0911"'s with the fan, it
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seems.)
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JSchober Oh, right, forgot that....
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AFA Parik Bill, Gary talked about this a LONG time ago, it sounded really
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neat...
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Dave Lyons Yeah, Nifty List works great from within ALPE, as long as you
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don't get 0911
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AFA Parik Didn't they make the GS version also?
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Dave Lyons errors for hitting Apple-Ctrl-ESC. I _have_ a fan already; maybe
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I need a
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Dave Lyons second one.
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JSchober A fan for the fan?
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BillP yea, I miss beening able to do hardware break, supposely it
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supports the GS
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BillP beening = being ::sigh::
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AFA Gary J Chuck Kelly, the designer, now has an account here on AppleLink.
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AFA Gary J I wrote to him in December and he replied to me here in E-mail.
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BillP oooo maybe we should ask about a discount on multiples
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AFA Parik Rephrased question : IRQ.VBL runs a routine that is sort of long.
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Does this
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AFA Parik take away from the retrace period for a program that needs as much
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of it as
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AFA Gary J The 8 bit version has been available for some time, but there was
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a problem
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AFA Parik possible? Would it be wise to steal the vector away during
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program execution
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AFA Parik and replace it later on?
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BillP Thanks Gary, I'll contact him
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AFA Gary J with the IIGS version. He said they have solved the problem and
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will be
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AFA Gary J beta testing (this month?) soon.
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JSchober RSN, probably...
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AFA Gary J I think his screen name is ProDev.
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JSchober (looks like it, Gary, that's a valid name...)
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Dave Lyons No, it's unwise, Parik: for example, the GS/OS Disk II driver use
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a heartbeat
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BillP well... we can certain do some heavy beta testing for him if he
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wants :)
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Dave Lyons tasks in that queue to decide whether the cached blocks are still
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valid, I
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AFA Gary J Right, Bill :)
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DaviesDoug Dan got dumped by his kid
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Dave Lyons think. There could be lots of heartbeat tasks. Probably the best
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thing you
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AFA Gary J I've been wanting to see a IIGS version in action myself.
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Dave Lyons program could do is (1) do the best it can or (2) detect that the
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interrupt
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AFL Jim Is this a hint that you're doing more IIGS development, Bill?
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Dave Lyons routine isn't getting called often enough & tell the user to
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remove some
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AFL Jim :)
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Dave Lyons utilities to improve performance.
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BillP Its no secret Jim...
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BillP Everyone who came to the conference on AppleLink software heard me
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:)
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AFA Parik Hmm, thanks Dave. Right now the scroll routines are semi-jerky,
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so any time
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AFA Parik stolen away is crucial...:(
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AFL Jim Is that a hint that I should show up for more conferences, Bill?
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BillP Of course, I did not say anything about SHR. :)
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AFA Parik hehe
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AFA Gary J Yes you did. You said it was too slow, Bill :)
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BillP Jim, I'm sure you have enough to keep you busy.. you can always
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call me
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AFA Parik I remember Bill saying at the Alink software conference that FREE
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Transwarp
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BillP direct if you want to know anything :)
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AFA Parik GS's will be given away to everyone. *grin*
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AFL Jim so's 2400 bps...
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BillP :)
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AFL Scott I do too!:)
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BillP I'll need one first
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DaviesDoug Anyone bought a Sonic Blaster yet? Not too bad.
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BillP I was promised a beta GS Zip chip last year too, I wonder what
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ever happen to
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BillP it
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AFL Jim Any other assembly discussion before we call it a night?
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DaviesDoug <thinking>
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JSchober (any static in the Blaster, Doug?? Heard a couple bad reviews in
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info-apple..)
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DaviesDoug Yah sorta, but the software is excellent
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AFL Scott B-Spline curves.. the inside story... Enquiring minds want to
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know..:)
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Dave HDS Tree Splaying anyone?
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AFA Parik You're right about VBL handler nono's Dave, I just replaced mine
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with a direct
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Matt DTS I still want pizza.
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AFA Parik RTL and it froze up the other GS...:)
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AFA Parik 0 (small, mini pizza)
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AFL Jim I want Gates....
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JSchober Well, gee, Matt, go and call 'em up now! You're paying, of
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course...
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Dave HDS Bill?
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AFA Gary J Free delivery within a 3000 mile radius, right? :)
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DennisDoms (Gee, Jim, isn't there an SF branch?)
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AFA Parik 30 minutes or less!
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JSchober Uh huh... in 30 minutes or less... GMTA Parik... :)
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AFL Jim Nope :(
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AFA Parik :)
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AFA Parik Go to Arnelli's pizza in Berkeley, fantastic, New York style pizza
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you'll
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AFA Parik never forget.
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DennisDoms Hmmm...I'll go tomorrow and think of you... :)
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AFL Jim Thanks a lot, Dennis....
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AFA Gary J :)
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AFL Jim I'll think of you when I wear short sleeve shirts in February...
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Matt DTS jake's, maybe
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AFA Gary J How can I draw a pepperoni on my screen using assembly language?
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:)
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AFA Parik bit shift it!
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TimH06 Use the _DrawPepperoni QD call!
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AFA Gary J heheh
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AFL Jim Matt, will Jakes let me bring my own sauce?
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DennisDoms LDA #pepperoni, STA $2000
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DaviesDoug do a ROL PIZZA
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Matt DTS Well, FrameOval and PaintOval come to mind...
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BillP here
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Dave Lyons (Yeah, with an appropriate PenPattern, of course.)
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BillP someone call me? or was it the smell of pizza
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DaviesDoug i think i have gas
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AFA Parik My car does too.
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AFA Parik At least I hope so.
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DaviesDoug my doesn't, little mice
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BillP Graphic APPLE Sound
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AFA Gary J Hi Adrian.
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Dave HDS Yes, but can you use quickdraw to draw that pepperoni in the
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boarder????
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AdrianT1st hello
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BillP that's what I heard
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AFA Parik Only if you use overscan w/ HAM mode.
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AFA Gary J LOL! (Dave :)
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DaviesDoug if you look cross-eyed
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AFL Jim Well... goodnight everyone and thanks for stopping by. Check the
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libraries
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BillP It in one of the new APple II Tech notes that I got today
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DaviesDoug new stuff jim?
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Dave HDS And of course blitter interrupts...
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AFL Jim later this week - I know you'll like the work Gary has done.
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TimH06 Hasn't Matt told you how to use QD on the border yet?
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DaviesDoug since yesterday?
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JSchober LOL... sheesh...
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Matt DTS Well, that's my cue. G'night, all.
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AFA Parik <-- took a peek at Gary's work, LOTS of stuff.
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JSchober 'Night, Jim!! :) (I gotta run, too, actually... see y'all
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later!!)
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AFL Jim Doug, the new Technotes will be up.
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DaviesDoug oh...already have em
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AFL Jim Isn't it nice, Parik?
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AFA Parik Gary must have spent many a hour cursing at the computer
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screen..."Why the
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AFA Parik hell is thi taking so long?" :)
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BillP blitter? isn't that an Amiga term
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AFA Gary J :)
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AFA Parik Its also the stuff that ends up on your windshield when you drive
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real fast.
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Dave HDS Yeah...hehe
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AFA Gary J It wasn't too bad, Parik :)
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BillP we have some cross developers here eh?
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DaviesDoug didn't you here bill...the GS has one now
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DaviesDoug :)
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BillP :) :x
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AFA Gary J Just billions and billions of them.
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AFA Parik Hi A2GS!
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AFL Jim Bye, I've got to go move across town some more...
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Dave HDS Very true Bill...I work from Sun's down to PC's (I'll never put an
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Apple at the
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A2GS Hi!
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Dave HDS bottom...
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AFA Gary J Goodnight, Jim.
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AFA Parik heheh Dave
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AFA Parik Night Jim!
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Dave Lyons Bye, Jim.
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AFL Jim ::poof::
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