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CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
02/18/90 00:35:37

Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss

Logging name to disk...
You are caller 212871; next msg =43235;  377 active msgs.
Prev. call 02/16/90 @ 21:10, next msg was 43225
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.   3 
KILLED.  50 
SUMMARY.  25 
02/16/90,21:32:16,212832,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,0
02/16/90,21:58:13,212833,2,BILL MATTSON,,8
02/16/90,22:08:56,212834,2,ALLEN SMITH,,13
02/16/90,22:46:50,212835,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
02/16/90,23:08:13,212836,2,WARREN CUSTODIO,Chicagi/il,2
02/16/90,23:19:23,212837,2,PHIL JERN,,3
02/17/90,02:00:06,212838,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0
02/17/90,04:28:51,212839,2,PAUL TRAVIS,chicago/ il,9
02/17/90,04:52:04,212840,2,PAUL TRAVIS,,2
02/17/90,06:05:15,212841,2,LA MONTE YARROLL,chicago/ IL,12
02/17/90,07:06:17,212842,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/17/90,08:06:30,212843,2,GARY BROWN,,3
02/17/90,08:32:39,212844,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1
02/17/90,09:01:21,212845,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,2
02/17/90,09:50:56,212846,2,LOUISE RAEDER,,3
02/17/90,10:30:27,212847,2,PAUL STREETER,,2
02/17/90,11:11:51,212848,2,MICK HAYES,dublin/ireland,
02/17/90,13:05:12,212849,1,PERCY CLYDEHOP,beecher/il,3
02/17/90,13:36:33,212850,2,JOE JESSON,,7
02/17/90,14:05:54,212851,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,,
E#43229,6
02/17/90,14:31:04,212852,2,GARY ELFRING,,0
02/17/90,15:51:05,212853,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/17/90,15:54:01,212854,3,ALEX ZELL,,
02/17/90,16:08:10,212855,1,LEN JACKSON,DEERFIELD/IL,3
02/17/90,16:13:08,212856,1,LEN JACKSON,,8
02/17/90,16:52:51,212857,1,BILL WOLFF,,
E#43230,6
02/17/90,17:14:24,212858,2,MATTHEW SWAJKOWSKI,,3
]MATTHEW SWAJKOWSKI,
02/17/90,17:48:23,212859,1,HOST HOST,duesseldorf germany,
02/17/90,17:53:58,212860,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,4
02/17/90,18:12:07,212861,1,JERRY HASLETT,,
E#43231,4
02/17/90,19:35:20,212862,1,ALAN CAPESIUS,,3
02/17/90,19:55:01,212863,1,ALAN CAPESIUS,,
E#43232,
E#43233,5
02/17/90,20:04:36,212864,1,JOSEPH SKOM,,2
02/17/90,20:07:25,212865,1,PHIL SCOPES,Chicago/ IL,
02/17/90,21:04:58,212866,1,CHUCK PERRY PERRY,SCHAUMBRUG IL,
02/17/90,22:01:17,212867,2,MIKE COOK,,10
02/17/90,22:17:13,212868,1,JERRY HASLETT,,2
02/17/90,22:54:05,212869,9,THOM QUICK,,1
02/17/90,23:01:56,212870,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
E#43234,3
02/18/90,00:35:41,212871,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
43225 02/16/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/SMALL PC?"
43226 02/16/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => JIM PRICE: "R/XMODEM"
43227 02/16/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => GARY ELFRING: "R/DESKJET STUFF"
43228 02/16/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "* PARTY SAT *"
43229 02/17/90 COLIN SCHROEDER => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/YOUR WP PROBLEM"
43230 02/17/90 BILL WOLFF => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/SMALL PC?"
43231 02/17/90 JERRY HASLETT => ALL: "DR-DOS"
43232 02/17/90 ALAN CAPESIUS => JIM POLOUS: "TRADES"
43233 02/17/90 ALAN CAPESIUS => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "HARD DRIVE"
43234 02/17/90 ERIC BOHLMAN => COLIN SCHROEDER: "R/YOUR WP PROBLEM"

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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.

Msg 43225 is 04 line(s) on 02/16/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/SMALL PC?

 I agree an old XT would be the cheapest. I can get a 1M 7.2MHz mother
board from Bullet for $179, add power supply, case, and keyboatr, and I'd
have it - but it would be a boring system. I'm looking for something
more "interesting". ;-)

Msg 43226 is 06 line(s) on 02/16/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to JIM PRICE re: R/XMODEM

 The original specs for the modem (aka xmodem) protocol is on the
Ward Board CBBS in the "low numbered" messages. try (708) 849-1132.
 For zmodem etc, I don't know where to go - if I needed it I'd check out
the PC Communications forum on Compuserve.
 You might ask on Prodigy, also, but of course you can't download anything
there either!

Msg 43227 is 06 line(s) on 02/16/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to GARY ELFRING re: R/DESKJET STUFF

 Thanks, but I don't do that much printing - I tend to go in spurts,
such as when I am working on a particular project. I've probably only
printed a few pages in the last couple weeks.
 I'd love to try it, but in fairness to you and the project, I really
have to say no for lack of time.
 The smearing doesn't bother me, heh heh.

Msg 43228 is 07 line(s) on 02/16/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: * PARTY SAT *

 Don't forget, the pizza party for CBBS' 12th anniversary is Saturday
2/17 at Barnaby's Pizza, 2xxx W Touhy (near California) - about 3 miles
east of the Edens X-way (North out of downtown Chicago)
 Begins at 2:00; many of us will be @ Elek Tek (6557 N. Lincoln if my
memory serves me) perhaps 12:30 or 1:00 or so. (at least tentatively,
that's the plan). Unfortunately they don't have any T1000SE or XE's in
stock ;-)

Msg 43229 is 08 line(s) on 02/17/90 from COLIN SCHROEDER
to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/YOUR WP PROBLEM

Eric:
 Thanks for relaying that msg. I appreciate th info. However,
I've tried all that; the problem is MUCH stickier than that. It
appears that it will require a TSR that remaps video RAM to other
system addresses, and constantly routes memory writes to new
location-however, I think that this would drastically slow down the
system. We'll see what happens if I ever get around to trying to
write such a thing!

Msg 43230 is 03 line(s) on 02/17/90 from BILL WOLFF
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/SMALL PC?

So how much are we talking for that complete boring XT system?

What about a boring XT laptop?

Msg 43231 is 03 line(s) on 02/17/90 from JERRY HASLETT
to ALL re: DR-DOS

Anybody have any experience with DR-DOS 4.3 as a replacement
for MS-DOS 3.3 or 4.01? Does it support the new TEAC 3.5 in.
drives with a capacity of 2.88M?

Msg 43232 is 03 line(s) on 02/17/90 from ALAN CAPESIUS
to JIM POLOUS re: TRADES

what do you have to trade?
I am interested in getting a PC or compatible and may be interested in just
about anything else

Msg 43233 is 02 line(s) on 02/17/90 from ALAN CAPESIUS
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: HARD DRIVE

ward the drive draws 8 watts nominally max is 28 watts
the controller I dont know about.

Msg 43234 is 03 line(s) on 02/17/90 from ERIC BOHLMAN
to COLIN SCHROEDER re: R/YOUR WP PROBLEM

You can't just reroute video writes with a TSR. You'd need something that
can use the 386's mapping registers (you might look into QEMM or 386-to-
the-max).
dup. chars.
>Function:?CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
02/18/90 20:33:36

Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss

Logging name to disk...
You are caller 212883; next msg =43239;  380 active msgs.
Prev. call 02/18/90 @ 00:35, next msg was 43235
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abort.
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.   4 
KILLED.  51 
SUMMARY.  25 
02/16/90,21:32:16,212832,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,0
02/16/90,21:58:13,212833,2,BILL MATTSON,,8
02/16/90,22:08:56,212834,2,ALLEN SMITH,,13

:35:41,212871,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#43235,
02/18/90,01:00:27,212872,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
02/18/90,01:31:28,212873,2,MARK HURAK,,
02/18/90,03:11:19,212874,1,BRANT DEICHMANN,Grand forks/North Dakota,3
02/18/90,10:22:43,212875,2,JIM REDMAN,,
E#43236,
E#43237,
E#43238,27
02/18/90,10:50:18,212876,2,JIM REDMAN,,1
02/18/90,15:57:48,212877,2,TOM WALLQUIST,tinley park/ illinois,6
02/18/90,16:58:34,212878,1,DAVE DEVORE,,2
02/18/90,17:01:40,212879,1,LANE LARRISON,,2
02/18/90,18:14:42,212880,2,ED FOSTER,,1
02/18/90,19:27:49,212881,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
02/18/90,19:43:56,212882,2,BOB CZAJKOWSKI,tinley park/ il,7
02/18/90,20:33:40,212883,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
43235 02/18/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BILL WOLFF: "R/SMALL PC?"
43236 02/18/90 JIM REDMAN => COLIN SCHROEDER: "R/1M SIMM BUYING GROUP"
43237 02/18/90 JIM REDMAN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/SMALL PC?"
43238 02/18/90 JIM REDMAN => ALL: "WHERE'S THE NOISE?"

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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.

Msg 43235 is 16 line(s) on 02/18/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to BILL WOLFF re: R/SMALL PC?

A boring XT? well, I haven't really figured it out, but something like this:
 $ 40 case
 $ 60 Power Supply
 $180 Bullet 7.2MHz 286 motherboard with 8 slots & 1M memory
 $ 80 Floppy controller w/serial/parallel/clock
 $ 70 360K floppy
 $ 60 Keyboard
 $ 80 Dos
 $ 55 Color card w/printer & composite output (use w/old CBBS monitor)
 $340 3.5" 32M drive & controller
 -
 $965 total
 I already have the modem and monitor, so unless I missed something, the
above should do it. This is primarily prices from JDR MicroDevices. I
could do cheaper with their motherboard, but I like the bullet, and it
supplies a nice 384K disk cache "free".

Msg 43236 is 05 line(s) on 02/18/90 from JIM REDMAN
to COLIN SCHROEDER re: R/1M SIMM BUYING GROUP

Apologies for not replying in so long. Is that a 9600 fax or 4800,
seems that a 9600 would be the only one worth getting. The board,
the flyer for which I've lost claimed to be a 4800 MNP modem, as well
as a 9600 fax, but I know nothing about the compatibility of a 4800
baud modem.

Msg 43237 is 10 line(s) on 02/18/90 from JIM REDMAN
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/SMALL PC?

There is an industrial PC, I think that it is called the "Baby Blue",
comes in a steel case with four screw hole flanges so that you could
bolt it to a piece of plywood, as normal. It has one 720K floppy,
or EEPROM memory ( or a hard disk ), BUT I'm not sure that it comes
with a slot. It is about the size of a half height floppy. It has
one, or two serial ports, a video port (TTL I think) and a keyboard
port on the outside. Comes in two vesions as I remember, one is
a 10MHz XT (~$1000?) or 20MHz 386 (~$ugh). I'll try and drag up the
literature on it, it's interesting, even if not what you want for your
application.

Msg 43238 is 04 line(s) on 02/18/90 from JIM REDMAN
to ALL re: WHERE'S THE NOISE?

My confidence in the universal continum is destroyed. In the last
few calls there has been NO LINE NOISE. When did this happen? Did
everyone else know this and I'm the last? What is going on? Why don't
I have to edit all the {{}}(*) out of my messages?
dup. chars.
>Function:?r;-1

Msg 43238 is 04 line(s) on 02/18/90 from JIM REDMAN
to ALL re: WHERE'S THE NOISE?

My confidence in the universal continum is destroyed.  In the last
few calls there has been NO LINE NOISE.  When did this happen?  Did
everyone else know this and I'm the last?  What is going on?  Why don't
I have to edit all the {{}}(*)) out of my messages?
--End of 43238

Msg #:?cre
++Invalid number++

++ leaving retrieve mode...
I don't understand 'CRE', WARD
Type ? for list of valid commands.
>Function:?r;1-
++Invalid number++

Msg #:?-1

Msg 43238 is 04 line(s) on 02/18/90 from JIM REDMAN
to ALL re: WHERE'S THE NOISE?

My confidence in the universal continum is destroyed.  In the last
few calls there has been NO LINE NOISE.  When did this happen?  Did
everyone else know this and
--End of 43238

Msg #:?re
Msg 43239
01 ?USR 9600 installed last week.  Must be a better modem - or perhaps
02 ?you, like me, have MNP capability?  I guess if CBBS goes back to 24
03 ?so Randy can have a 2nd 9600 on Chinet (which surely needs it better -
04 ?tons more info per day there - etc) we should at least go to a better
05 ?modem here - perhaps MNP?
06 ?
A,C,D,E,G,H,I,L,R,S,W (or ?):?s
Writing to disk.

Updating summary.
>Function:?qr;100
42747 BIOS DATE HELP
42748 CP/M:RAD. SHAK MOD II:BBS
42749 CP/M BBS S
42750 MIXED FEELINGS PRODIGY
42751 NEC V30
42752 HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWARE
42753 R/HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWAR
42758 R/HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWAR
42759 YE OLDE UPGRADE
42760 R/PRODIGY
42762 R/FOR SALE
42763 R/NEED N* DIMENSION HELP
42765 XMODEM
42766 R/HELP WITH BELL ON LINE NOISE
42768 R/UPGRADING XT HAR

Retrieving flagged ms
>Function:?k$9

Translating to the CBBS command: k;#1;k;#2;k;#3;k;#4;k;#5;k;#6;k;#7;k;#8;k;#9;purge
 42747,05,11/12/89,JIM SACKETT,ALL
BIOS DATE HELP
 42748,28,11/12/89,BOB COVELL,WARD CHRISTENSEN
CP/M:RAD. SHAK MOD II:BBS
 42749,02,11/13/89,BARRY FUERST,WARD
CP/M BBS S
 42750,20,11/13/89,JIM SACKETT,ALL
MIXED FEELINGS PRODIGY
 42751,05,11/13/89,JIM SACKETT,ALL
NEC V30
 42752,02,11/13/89,MARK NORMAN,ALL
HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWARE
 42753,02,11/13/89,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MARK NORMAN
R/HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWAR
 42758,11,11/13/89,JERRY OLSEN,MARK NORMAN
R/HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWAR
 42759,25,11/14/89,JOHN ROSENGARTEN,ALL
YE OLDE UPGRADE
 42747,X5,11/12/89,JIM SACKETT,ALL
BIOS DATE HELP
 42748,X8,11/12/89,BOB COVELL,WARD CHRISTENSEN
CP/M:RAD. SHAK MOD II:BBS
 42749,X2,11/13/89,BARRY FUERST,WARD
CP/M BBS S
 42750,X0,11/13/89,JIM SACKETT,ALL
MIXED FEELINGS PRODIGY
 42751,X5,11/13/89,JIM SACKETT,ALL
NEC V30
 4252,X2,11/13/89,MARK NORMAN,ALL
HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWARE
 42753,X2,11/13/89,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MARK NORMAN
R/HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWAR
 42758,X1,11/13/89,JERRY OLSEN,MARK NORMAN
R/HELP! WITH CP/M COMM SOFTWAR
 42759,X5,11/14/89,JOHN ROSENGARTEN,ALL
YE OLDE UPGRADE
 43056,X3,01/20/90,ERIC BOHLMAN,JOE JESSON
R/CALLER ID SPECS.
 43228,X7,02/16/90,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
** PARTY SAT **
 11 Purged
>Function:?/
02/18/90 20:37:28
Connect time   4 minutes


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