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11/04/91,06:00:36,224157,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
11/04/91,06:02:02,224157,1,WARD CH
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03,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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E#45198,
11/01/91,05:59:21,224104,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#45199,
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11/01/91,06:11:50,224105,2,PETE JONES,,1
11/01/91,06:58:56,224106,2,RICHARD HINTON,,
E#45201,6
11/01/91,07:07:53,224107,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,3
11/01/91,09:03:52,224108,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1
11/01/91,10:55:05,224109,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
11/01/91,12:24:51,224110,9,JAMES KARAGANIS,,
E#45202,5
11/01/91,14:40:16,224111,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,0
11/01/91,18:31:48,224112,2,BOB LUND,,7
11/01/91,19:59:28,224113,3,JIM COLLING,,5
11/01/91,20:50:24,224114,2,DON PIVEN,,1
11/01/91,21:40:52,224115,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,5
11/01/91,23:28:23,224116,2,JIM WILLING,,5
]Greetings chief!  How goes?  CBBS/NW  still chugs along, I'm threatening
(for about the 600th time) to try to re-work it in 'C' or something
similar and move it to my Unix system.  Who knows, maybe someday I'lkl
actually finish it!

JIM WILLING,
11/02/91,00:04:54,224117,1,DAVID JOHNSON,,
E#45203,6
11/02/91,00:13:41,224118,2,JERRY OLSEN,,
E#45204,
E#45205,
E#45206,24
11/02/91,06:54:29,224119,2,STEVE BOGOLUB,,6
11/02/91,08:49:28,224120,2,MICHAEL MCDANIEL,,2
11/02/91,09:26:02,224121,2,JOE SEROCKI,,
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E#45208,
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]K,45209,JOE SEROCKI, 7
11/02/91,12:22:22,224122,1,BOB KOBETSKY,,2
11/02/91,12:27:50,224123,2,CLINT NOLAN,,
11/02/91,13:44:33,224124,2,BILL MATTSON,,
E#45211,
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11/02/91,14:43:58,224125,1,BOB KOBETSKY,,
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11/02/91,17:02:32,224126,1,DAVID JOHNSON,,2
11/02/91,17:32:59,224127,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,6
11/02/91,20:59:04,224128,2,DON PIVEN,,2
11/02/91,21:35:23,224129,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
11/02/91,22:04:28,224130,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,
E#45214,
E#45215,13
11/02/91,22:53:19,224131,2,CHOL KANG,chicago,2
11/02/91,23:09:01,224132,2,MIKE MCGINNIS,,3
11/02/91,23:24:07,224133,9,JIM POLOUS,,1
11/02/91,23:41:30,224134,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
11/03/91,02:03:35,224135,9,TONY ANTONUCCI,,6
11/03/91,12:15:03,224136,9,BEN TEIFELD,,4
11/03/91,12:23:52,224137,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,4
11/03/91,12:30:27,224138,2,ALEX ZELL,,
11/03/91,13:28:54,224139,2,DON PIVEN,,1
11/03/91,15:24:51,224140,1,BOB KOBETSKY,,2
11/03/91,15:36:40,224141,1,BRUNO RUSSO,,2
11/03/91,16:05:24,224142,2,BILL FISCHER,,1
11/03/91,16:11:12,224143,3,KEN STOX,,
11/03/91,16:12:39,224144,3,KEN STOX,,2
11/03/91,16:34:10,224145,2,DENNIS STAHL,,
11/03/91,17:24:14,224146,1,GAYLAND BLOETHE,,
E#45216,12
11/03/91,18:30:53,224147,2,BILL FISCHER,,1
11/03/91,18:55:51,224148,2,AL HIGGINS,,
E#45217,
E#45218,17
11/03/91,19:35:06,224149,3,ALBERT BLYTHE,,3
11/03/91,19:57:09,224150,1,CHOL H KANG,,
11/03/91,20:54:24,224151,2,ERNESTO ALVAREZ,N.Y,13
11/03/91,21:29:37,224152,2,MAX KOHN,,
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11/03/91,21:34:19,224153,1,BRUNO RUSSO,,56
11/03/91,22:48:59,224154,2,BILL MATTSON,,
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11/04/91,01:58:40,224155,2,ADAM WROBEL,,18
11/04/91,05:46:19,224156,2,PETE JONES,,1
11/04/91,06:00:36,224157,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
11/04/91,06:02:02,224157,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
45197 11/01/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALPHONSO CARTER: "R/128 SOFTWARE"
45198 11/01/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => DAVID JOHNSON: "R/STATIC"
45199 11/01/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => CHOL H KANG: "DOS"
45200 11/01/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "STATIC #2"
45201 11/01/91 RICHARD HINTON => ALL: "THANKS FOR THE MEMORY..."
45202 11/01/91 JAMES KARAGANIS => ROY LIPSCOMB: "FAST STEP RATE"
45203 11/02/91 DAVID JOHNSON => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/STATIC"
45204 11/02/91 JERRY OLSEN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/STATIC #2"
45205 11/02/91 JERRY OLSEN => ALPHONSO CARTER: "R/128 SOFTWARE"
45206 11/02/91 JERRY OLSEN => ROY LIPSCOMB: "TEL. TAG"
45207 11/02/91 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "SUB D BATTERIES WANTED"
45208 11/02/91 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "SOLAR PANELS WANTED"
45209X 11/02/91 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "SOLAR PANELS WANTED"
45210 11/02/91 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "INVERTER WANTED"
45211 11/02/91 BILL MATTSON => ALL: "ALTOS COMPUTER FOR SALE"
45212 11/02/91 BILL MATTSON => ALL: "TERMINALS FOR SALE"
45213 11/02/91 BOB KOBETSKY => ALL: "DIGITAL/ DECWRITER"
45214 11/02/91 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => ALPHONSO CARTER: "128/COMMODORE SUPPORT"
45215 11/02/91 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "STATIC..."
45216 11/03/91 GAYLAND BLOETHE => BILL MATSON: "WHY OS/2 VERSION 1.3?"
45217 11/03/91 AL HIGGINS => GAYLAND BLOETHE: "R/WHY OS/2 VERSION 1.3?"
45218 11/03/91 AL HIGGINS => ALL: "DIABLO 620 PARTS"
45219 11/03/91 BILL MATTSON => AL HIGGINS: "R/DIABLO 620 PARTS"
45220 11/03/91 BILL MATTSON => GAYLAND BLOETHE: "R/WHY OS/2 VERSION 1.3?"

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Msg 45197 is 04 line(s) on 11/01/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALPHONSO CARTER re: R/128 SOFTWARE

  Unfortunately, this board has never had Commodore users.  Hopefully you
left your msg on other boards.  I'm sure there are boards that acutally
specifically cater to the Commodore line.  You are just not likely to get
an answer here.

Msg 45198 is 09 line(s) on 11/01/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to DAVID JOHNSON re: R/STATIC

  I'm not on or near static - that is kind of the surprise!  However,
I think this might be clothing related.  I also have a plastic floor
protector under this chair.
  A friend, Mike Warot, bought me a Radio Shack thermoneter/humidistat,
so it will be interesting the NEXT time I sense some static (hopefully
without zapping some components!) to see what the humidity is!  Also
I should perhaps spray the wool chair seat with static guard.
  Meanwhile I'm grounding myself before touching my laptop or hooking up
the Wizard Link.

Msg 45199 is 01 line(s) on 11/01/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to CHOL H KANG re: DOS

Sorry, no "DOS" here (noticed you were looking for help on it).

Msg 45200 is 07 line(s) on 11/01/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: STATIC #2

  Well, "no trouble found" was the analysis of my Toshiba when it was out
in California for repair!  Sure enough, I hooked it up to Lap Link, it
worked perfectly!
  Since when can a zapped serial port start working again??  I tried the
SAME cable on the SAME system, it didn't work!  Also I tried just using
a comm program on another machine - it wouldn't even receive - though
it would send!

Msg 45201 is 07 line(s) on 11/01/91 from RICHARD HINTON
to ALL re: THANKS FOR THE MEMORY...

I have Qemm installed w/dos 5 on my 386SX system. Currently I have
have 647K memory free, and am looking to get a high loadable menu
program so that I can get about 680K of free conventional memory.
But I can't find a hi-loadable menu program. Anyone know of one
out there? While we're at it, why can Word Perfect and other
application programs be loaded loaded high?
Richard Hinton

Msg 45202 is 07 line(s) on 11/01/91 from JAMES KARAGANIS
to ROY LIPSCOMB re: FAST STEP RATE

Roy,
   Actually, the only reason the standard AT ships with a step rate of 6 ms
is to maintain compatibility with a wide variety of drives.  If your
particular drives are capable of a faster step rate then you might as
well use it.  It's typical of IBM not to allow user-configurability of
such things, although I've seen a couple of fancier clone BIOSes that
do.

Msg 45203 is 07 line(s) on 11/02/91 from DAVID JOHNSON
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/STATIC

Hmmm, that is surprising.  Perhaps the wool chair is the culprit, with
your clothes.  The humidity test should prove interesting, I think that
both our guesses would be that it will be low.  As far as grounding, what
method do you use?  I've heard (and used) that touching the fan grill
before opening the case works.  In any case, good luck with your systems,
and glad to hear that the Toshiba is ok.


Msg 45204 is 10 line(s) on 11/02/91 from JERRY OLSEN
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/STATIC #2

I've had some bizarre COM: port problems lately, too, one of which
matches yours (sends but won't receive). In that particular case, I
found a strange contention for the port under a multitasking
environment. My only solution so far has been to close down the
program in the inactive window....On one specific day I couldn't
do file xfers even though all text communications worked fine. What was
so strange was that I had precisely the same problems when I altered
every element involved--changed modems, cables, software, and computers.
Even tried restoring a known good back-up. I ended up xferring stuff to
CIS as straight ASCII the rest of the day. Next day, all went well. :-)

Msg 45205 is 09 line(s) on 11/02/91 from JERRY OLSEN
to ALPHONSO CARTER re: R/128 SOFTWARE

A few Commodore BBSes and stores exist in the Chicago area, though I'm
not directly in touch with them anymore. Try leaving a message to "ALL"
on a system I run. A couple of callers there still play with C-128s in
their free time and probably would be able to meet your needs. Also, as
you log on, note carefully the instructions to access the various BBS
lists we maintain. using the SEARCH facility, you should be able to
identify BBSes in the 312 and/or 708 area codes with a special interest
in Commie machines. Here are the details for calling:
The Advocate/NoWar, 312.939.4411, 24 hrs., 8/n/1 (Loop area), 300/1200/2400.

Msg 45206 is 06 line(s) on 11/02/91 from JERRY OLSEN
to ROY LIPSCOMB re: TEL. TAG

Sorry I've been hard to reach--on site more than usual recently. I dunno
if I really have enough to tell you about the center to justify a lot of
effort on your part, but late afternoons weekdays normally DO find me
around most of the time. Also, I think some relatively recent discussion
on the center is still in the Advocate's message base (contact info in
preceding msg if you don't have it handy). Regards.

Msg 45207 is 02 line(s) on 11/02/91 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: SUB D BATTERIES WANTED

I need some sub-d batteries. If you have any call me at 708-632-8723./
Thanks

Msg 45208 is 01 line(s) on 11/02/91 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: SOLAR PANELS WANTED

I need some solar panels. Call me at 708-632-8723 if you have any for sale.
No msg 45209

Msg 45210 is 03 line(s) on 11/02/91 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: INVERTER WANTED

I need a couple of inverters. Call me at 708-632-8723 if you have any
you
want to sell.

Msg 45211 is 15 line(s) on 11/02/91 from BILL MATTSON
to ALL re: ALTOS COMPUTER FOR SALE

For Sale: Altos 8000-10A with following features:
          -Z80 Processor
          -Supports 4 users, each with own memory
          -Runs CP/M, MP/M, or OASIS
          -Original distribution diskettes for
           CP/M and MP/M
          -Original manual and Altos utilities
          -CP/M installed
          -Boots from 10-Megabyte hard disk
          -Includes cartridge tape back-up
          -Already configured as a BBS up to 2400 baud
           (modem not included)
          -In perfect working order
          -Many public domain utilities/progs included
   Price is $500.00 complete, and ready to roll.

Msg 45212 is 07 line(s) on 11/02/91 from BILL MATTSON
to ALL re: TERMINALS FOR SALE

Lear Siegler ADM31 terminals with following features:
     -110 to 9600 baud asynchronous serial ports
     -Stand-alone operation w/modem or as terminal
      connected to computer
     -Complete documentation (manuals)
     -Some have auxiliary printer (serial) port
   Priced to sell at $35.00 each...

Msg 45213 is 02 line(s) on 11/02/91 from BOB KOBETSKY
to ALL re: DIGITAL/ DECWRITER

Anyone interested in an old but unused Digital DecWriter,
leave a message for me with your phone number.

Msg 45214 is 05 line(s) on 11/02/91 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to ALPHONSO CARTER re: 128/COMMODORE SUPPORT

   There is a store called Software Plus located in Chicago on 6XXX Western
Ave., and another in WHeeling on Dundee.  They carry Commodore & Atari for
the most part.
  AS for BBS systems, one of the oldest in operation for C64/128 is CCBS
at 708-674-6502... maximum baud rate is 2400.  Hope this helps

Msg 45215 is 13 line(s) on 11/02/91 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: STATIC...

Ward,
  I have found that statis is a big problem come April & October.  The
number of calls I get regarding 'hung' computers and 'parity errors'
jumps 10 fold.  While statis guard spray works, it is very expensive, and
it is vacuumed away with the cleaning staff nightly.  I don't remember the
source, but I have people get a spray bottle ( a nice one, adjustable
nozzle), and fill it with 1part Downy fabric softener to 2 or 3 parts water
and spray this instead of static gaurd.  It works the same and is a lot
less expensive.
   I have found serial ports freezing for a period of time.  Sometimes
removing them from the board and then replacing them works. (OK hardware
guru's.. is there some capacatence built into the 1488/89 chips and/or the
circuits that drive them ?)

Msg 45216 is 08 line(s) on 11/03/91 from GAYLAND BLOETHE
to BILL MATSON re: WHY OS/2 VERSION 1.3?

Other than to get the free upgrade to OS/2 Version 2.0, is there any good
reason to go out and buy OS/2 1.3?  To date there has been relatively little
software for OS/2, with the huge market for Windows.  Can you run Windows
under OS/2?  Is there any evidence at the present time to tell whether or
or not IBM will be able to deliver on the promises that they have made for
OS/2?  In talking to IBM to request liturature, the lady stated that the
failure of OS/2 Ver. 2.0 to run any Windows or IBM software would be con-
sidered a bug in OS/2 itself.

Msg 45217 is 11 line(s) on 11/03/91 from AL HIGGINS
to GAYLAND BLOETHE re: R/WHY OS/2 VERSION 1.3?

I'm running OS/2 due to an application specific requirement! Unless you
have a reason to move to OS/2 I wouldn't!.  To be specific, there isn't
any software utilities (ie..Norton, Copyiipc, backup, modem program that
run under OS/2. I've call ALL the software manufactures that currently
produce software to support the DOS enviroment and they say they either
have no plans to support OS/2, or are waiting to see what the market will
do. Personnally, It's frustrating to be able to do anything I what on my
DOS system, and I'm very limited under OS/2.
If you move to OS/2 you pay full price! There is no break or discount if
you move from DOS to OS/2.
Best of wishes in your plight....

Msg 45218 is 07 line(s) on 11/03/91 from AL HIGGINS
to ALL re: DIABLO 620 PARTS

Does anyone have a Diablo or Xerox 620 daisy wheel printer laying around
in their basement or garage??  I have a 620 that's still in good shape,
however, either the stepper motor or the controller is gone. Would like
to find someone who is willing to part with theirs or their controller &
stepper motor..
Should nayone have such a beast still, leave a msg on this BBS.
Thanks!!!!

Msg 45219 is 05 line(s) on 11/03/91 from BILL MATTSON
to AL HIGGINS re: R/DIABLO 620 PARTS

I have a whole working machine, and might be willing to sell it.
It's not a 620, it's a Xerox Computer Services internal equivalent
to the 620, plus some ribbons and print wheels. If interested, let
me know. I think it is referred to as 1330, or 1320 some such.
Essentially the same machine, however.

Msg 45220 is 09 line(s) on 11/03/91 from BILL MATTSON
to GAYLAND BLOETHE re: R/WHY OS/2 VERSION 1.3?

Yes is the answer to your questions. OS/2 2.0, in it's final version
will run DOS, Windows, (probably Desqview), and OS/2 sessions
simultaneously. IBM will deliver on the promise. I run DOS and OS/2
sessions together now under OS/2 1.3. If you install OS/2 properly
you don't have to give up anything. I regularly boot up under DOS 5.0
and then switch to OS/2. I am communicating now using an OS/2 commo
program similar to Qmodem, called Logicomm. This is an OS/2 session.
I also run windows 3.0 when "over on the DOS side". Actually, the
real answer to your question is "because it's there".
No dup. chars.
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