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12/12/91,21:45:41,224798,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,2
12/12/91,21:51:31,224799,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#45339,5
12/12/91,22:35:34,224800,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,7
12/13/91,00:31:04,224801,9,JIM POLOUS,,
E#45340,21
12/13/91,03:14:37,224802,2,ALEX ZELL,,
12/13/91,05:38:02,224803,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,,2
12/13/91,08:18:12,224804,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
12/13/91,10:32:35,224805,1,BOB SANCHEZ,elk grove/ il,4
12/13/91,11:20:49,224806,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1
12/13/91,11:43:38,224807,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
12/13/91,11:52:59,224808,3,RONALD ALEXANDER,,9
12/13/91,12:02:57,224809,3,RONALD ALEXANDER,,1
12/13/91,12:30:20,224810,2,ALEX ZELL,,
12/13/91,14:24:36,224811,2,PHIL JERN,,
E#45341,7
12/13/91,14:44:42,224812,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,15
12/13/91,15:07:08,224813,2,KEN STOX,,1
12/13/91,17:25:24,224814,2,STEEDLY YOUNG,,
E#45342,8
12/13/91,20:23:01,224815,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,1
12/13/91,20:30:08,224816,2,ERIC LINK,,2
12/13/91,22:08:46,224817,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
12/14/91,07:05:44,224818,2,BILL MATTSON,,5
12/14/91,08:30:30,224819,9,DAVID GIBBS,,2
12/14/91,10:13:01,224820,1,ROBERT LIEBERMAN,Skokie/ IL,2
12/14/91,12:45:52,224821,2,TOM SAWYER,Chicago/ IL,2
12/14/91,13:47:27,224822,2,BILL WOLFF,,
E#45343,
E#45344,19
12/14/91,14:34:21,224823,9,ERIC BOHLMAN,,7
12/14/91,15:02:06,224824,1,STEVE RYAN,,1
12/14/91,16:04:37,224825,3,JIM COLLING,,4
12/14/91,19:04:22,224826,2,DON PIVEN,,1
12/14/91,20:08:24,224827,2,PHIL JERN,,1
12/14/91,21:23:33,224828,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,3
12/14/91,22:08:00,224829,2,RICHARD HINTON,,2
12/14/91,22:18:27,224830,2,MARTIN SCHRADER,,1
12/14/91,22:46:18,224831,2,PHIL JERN,,0
12/14/91,22:55:51,224832,2,WILLIAM DAVIES,,13
12/15/91,03:55:56,224833,2,ALEX ZELL,,
12/15/91,05:10:47,224834,2,JERRY OLSEN,,51
12/15/91,05:37:30,224835,2,JERRY OLSEN,,
E#45345,86
12/15/91,07:30:20,224836,2,DAN GREENE,chicago,2
12/15/91,09:13:38,224837,2,STEEDLY YOUNG,,2
12/15/91,09:40:27,224838,2,BILL WOLFF,,
E#45346,6
12/15/91,10:54:10,224839,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
12/15/91,11:06:14,224840,2,AL HIGGINS,,
E#45347,14
]Best wishes this holiday season!
AL HIGGINS,
12/15/91,11:58:40,224841,2,CHUCK CADY,Suttons bay/ Mi,8
12/15/91,13:07:59,224842,1,BYRON GRUSH,,
E#45348,17
12/15/91,15:57:04,224843,2,CHARLIE KESTNER,,3
12/15/91,17:46:44,224844,2,PHIL JERN,,1
12/15/91,19:56:49,224845,2,BOB LUND,,3
12/15/91,21:07:41,224846,2,THOMAS BURKMAN,Arlington Heights Il,8
12/15/91,21:20:21,224847,2,THOMAS BURKMAN,,6
12/15/91,21:43:45,224848,9,JIM POLOUS,,
E#45349,2
12/15/91,23:09:16,224849,1,DAVID JOHNSON,,4
12/16/91,03:09:54,224850,2,ALEX ZELL,,
12/16/91,05:24:20,224851,1,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
45339 12/12/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "PC SERIAL ROUTINES"
45340 12/13/91 JIM POLOUS => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "@@@@"
45341 12/13/91 PHIL JERN => WARD: "COMM PROGRAMMING"
45342 12/13/91 STEEDLY YOUNG => BYRON GRUSH: "R/DEC RAINBOW WOES"
45343 12/14/91 BILL WOLFF => BYRON GRUSH: "R/DEC RAINBOW WOES"
45344 12/14/91 BILL WOLFF => JIM POLOUS: "R/HARD DISKS"
45345 12/15/91 JERRY OLSEN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/PC SERIAL ROUTINES"
45346 12/15/91 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "CP/M ON COMMODORE 64"
45347 12/15/91 AL HIGGINS => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/HP DESKJET 500 INKJET PRINTE"
45348 12/15/91 BYRON GRUSH => JERRY OLSEN: "R/DEC RAINBOWS"
45349 12/15/91 JIM POLOUS => BILL WOLFF: "720"
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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 45339 is 09 line(s) on 12/12/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: PC SERIAL ROUTINES
If you were writing a serial comm program from scratch, what would you
use for the low-level I/O drivers?
Also, if CBBS were to be re-written for the PC, (it is RUNNING on a PC,
but using 8080 emulation!) how would the DOS access be handled? I'm doing
it now via "ctty com1" which is executed only if a password is entered,
etc.
Is there a standard library of these routines? Or does every BBS
writer create their own?
Thanks!
Msg 45340 is 24 line(s) on 12/13/91 from JIM POLOUS
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: @@@@
If you want to program the COM port yourself, interrupt driven
serial i/o is covered well in the following book:
The Waite Group's MS-DOS Developers Guide
Publisher: Howard W. Sams
Date:1989 (2nd Edition) - 3rd may be out by now
Look on page 468
As for accessing DOS, I would recommend something like PC-Anywhere III.
There all interrupts that you can call to disable it's output so that
while you're doing your own i/o it, won't interfere. In fact, you
can write your program to utilize the PC Anywhere communication i/o
routines. CTTY is fine as long as you stay in DOS. Don't try to go
into GWBASIC or any application that uses cursor control! PC-Anywhere III
even handles graphics based programs if you wanted to run something like
that from remote.
Although I dont believe DMA documents the interrupts used to control
PC-Anywhere III, they are listed in a book called PC INTERRUPTS. My copy
is at work, so I don't have an author or publisher, but it is new
(I got mine at Waldenbooks about a week ago). If you need any infor
about it, let me know I'll get you publisher/author. I believe it
was about $39 for the PC INTERRUPTS book.
Jim
Msg 45341 is 05 line(s) on 12/13/91 from PHIL JERN
to WARD re: COMM PROGRAMMING
There is a well documented interface that Fido and Opus bulletin
boards used called a FOSSIL (Fido Opus Seadog Standard Interface Layer)
That is available on many bulletin boards (US Robotics comes to mind{)
Look for files called X00.SYS or something like that.
It functions as a device driver, and is very reliable.
Msg 45342 is 01 line(s) on 12/13/91 from STEEDLY YOUNG
to BYRON GRUSH re: R/DEC RAINBOW WOES
compatible with anything. Good luck.
Msg 45343 is 05 line(s) on 12/14/91 from BILL WOLFF
to BYRON GRUSH re: R/DEC RAINBOW WOES
Hi Byron! Well I use too have lots of interest for the DEC RAINBOW 100
computer. As I bought a bunch of software for it at bargain prices.
Unfortunately... I just gave them all away for free. Another thing about
this computer is that I never had seen one in my life. I still haven't
either, just some software for it.
Msg 45344 is 01 line(s) on 12/14/91 from BILL WOLFF
to JIM POLOUS re: R/HARD DISKS
Is it true that 3.5 (720K format) are about 95us in access time?
Msg 45345 is 25 line(s) on 12/15/91 from JERRY OLSEN
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/PC SERIAL ROUTINES
(It would help if you suggested what language you might use <G>.)
Someone mentioned FOSSIL drivers. I recall seeing a bundle of related
stuff--which may or may not contain what you would need--over on the
U.S. Robotics BBS in Skokie awhile ago.
Assuming the language is C (which I _think_ I saw somewhere on CBBS in
Dolton), several low-level serial I/O packages are available. I just
wish I recalled where I've seen 'em advertised! I _think_ it was in the
C Users Journal, but it may have been in PC Mag. or PC World. Also,
shareware packages are floating around. I've seen 'em either in
Shareware Mag.'s back section (the current month's issue contains a
cover article by me <G>) or in the Encyclopedia of Shareware. Even if
you're thinking of being masochistic about it and programming in
Assembler <G>, running the source through to an .ASM file obviously
would be a major start.
If you _are_ thinking about C and your needs are simple--basic
file maintenance with text-based utilities, the simplest solution
obviously would be to use system() or an alternate. In fact, I'd be
inclined to do that with the fxn you would write which invokes
system() offering a simple, password-protected menu to execute your
most common tasks.
Have I missed the mark entirely? <GGG>
Msg 45346 is 04 line(s) on 12/15/91 from BILL WOLFF
to ALL re: CP/M ON COMMODORE 64
Does anybody have a working boot disk for the famous CP/M for the
C64? I know the darn thing is about worthless, but my disk died
and I can't seem to bring it back to life. I wonder if Commodore
will still have a replacement copy around?
Msg 45347 is 05 line(s) on 12/15/91 from AL HIGGINS
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/HP DESKJET 500 INKJET PRINTE
Ya, but some of the software packages I use do not have drivers for
HP500s. Does the 500C take a different driver than the 500?
If things are quiet at work this week I'll be heading over to ET
to pick up a 500C. I let you know how it goes.....
Reguards
Msg 45348 is 06 line(s) on 12/15/91 from BYRON GRUSH
to JERRY OLSEN re: R/DEC RAINBOWS
Thanks for the response about the DEC Rainbow. It's
truely a collectors item. I guess the drawback is
not being able to upgrade it. If somebody desparately
needs one (for parts, etc.) I would consider trading
for something, but for now I will probably just use
the monitor (and prop my door open with the pedestal).
Msg 45349 is 03 line(s) on 12/15/91 from JIM POLOUS
to BILL WOLFF re: 720
I don't know exactly, but it would probably be somewhere around there.
Jim
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